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#5
by redaihf - opened

The 1.1 version is unfortunately inferior to its predecessor. While it lacks refusals its ability to follow prompts is poor and it also exhibits some early terminations. It is possible that these problems result from either covert noncompliance or merge issues.

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Likely this is due to the PDQ/QHE formula which already operates at a 10% threshold (any further breaks the model entirely).

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edited Apr 23

New versions (v1.2) of Magistaroth and Slimaki are being released, each uses the della method. Both should be fully uncensored out the box no ablations or jailbreaks needed. No normalize: false components were used for these afaik so there should only be 200% norm inflation at most. C72-C78 were either censored or less intelligent than C79 and C80. C81 was the smartest of them all but had some refusals.

The updated Magistaroth v1.2 may provide a good middle ground for instruction following + lack of censorship. Instead of using all unablated components + ablating after the merge, I tested various configs to see where the "refusal threshold" was for swapping out individual donors with ablated versions. It appears that only PF v4.1 and Tiamat required ablated versions (heretic paper witch), Della's magprune with normalize: false and total weights at 2.0 handled the rest. This achieves full uncensorship while at least some components (Magidonia, Precog, PF v3) remain fully unablated. More testing is needed to see if this is better than the standard merge β†’ ablate pipeline.

There's also Mergedonia-Karcher being uploaded, this has some refusals but seems quite smart.

The new prometheus method includes some features like QHE's novelty-injection, but version M was kind of lobotomized so I'm hoping version P is higher quality. A quick test variant is merging now at 100 iterations for Mergedonia (Magidonia, Cydonia, Precog, Rivermind, Fallen Mistral). If this works then maybe a prometheus version of Magistaroth or Slimaki can be released too.

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