Qwen3.8-27B MQ V2 ladder for hipfire
Text-only Qwen3.8-27B artifacts for hipfire, the Rust-native LLM inference engine for AMD GPUs.
This repository contains the admitted MQ3V2 through MQ6V2 product ladder and matching DFlash drafters. MQ4V2 supersedes MQ4V1 as hipfire's canonical mq4 product. Artifacts remain self-describing by HFQM quant-type ID; old MQ4V1 files are still readable but are not the current product.
Product filenames
Each bit-width has exactly three tiers:
mqN-xt: embeddings protected; lm_head and recurrent outputs remain at the base codec.mqN: embeddings and lm_head protected.mqN-pro: recurrent/SSM outputs also lifted. MQ3 Pro usesssm_out:mq6v2to stay inside the 3.x model-bpw class.
| Product | File | Model bpw | Size (GB) | WT2 KLD |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| mq3-xt | qwen3.8-27b.mq3-xt |
3.503 | 11.778 | 0.248348 |
| mq3 | qwen3.8-27b.mq3 |
3.753 | 12.619 | 0.153658 |
| mq3-pro | qwen3.8-27b.mq3-pro |
3.922 | 13.184 | 0.130314 |
| mq4-xt | qwen3.8-27b.mq4-xt |
4.456 | 14.980 | 0.057449 |
| mq4 | qwen3.8-27b.mq4 |
4.659 | 15.663 | 0.039033 |
| mq4-pro | qwen3.8-27b.mq4-pro |
4.897 | 16.464 | 0.032495 |
| mq5-xt | qwen3.8-27b.mq5-xt |
5.408 | 18.183 | 0.015028 |
| mq5 | qwen3.8-27b.mq5 |
5.564 | 18.706 | 0.010255 |
| mq5-pro | qwen3.8-27b.mq5-pro |
5.746 | 19.319 | 0.009006 |
| mq6-xt | qwen3.8-27b.mq6-xt |
6.361 | 21.386 | 0.004389 |
| mq6 | qwen3.8-27b.mq6 |
6.469 | 21.750 | 0.002771 |
| mq6-pro | qwen3.8-27b.mq6-pro |
6.596 | 22.174 | 0.002208 |
MQ2V2 was fully measured but is deliberately not published as a product: all three tiers produced catastrophic WT2 KLD around 12โ13 and degraded/repetitive text.
DFlash drafters
| Draft | File | Size (GB) | Role |
|---|---|---|---|
| MQ3V2 | qwen38-27b-dflash-mq3.hfq |
0.985 | Optional same-bit controller |
| MQ4V2 | qwen38-27b-dflash-mq4.hfq |
1.210 | Recommended controller |
| MQ5V2 | qwen38-27b-dflash-mq5.hfq |
1.434 | Optional same-bit controller |
| MQ6V2 | qwen38-27b-dflash-mq6.hfq |
1.659 | Optional same-bit controller |
Sizes are decimal GB, matching Hugging Face.
The MQ4V2 control drafter won the matched decode screen for every admitted MQ3/MQ5/MQ6 target tier and is therefore the recommended default controller. The same-bit drafts remain available for explicit size/codec experiments.
DFlash is opt-in:
hipfire pull qwen3.8:27b
hipfire pull qwen3.8:27b-draft-mq4
hipfire run --spec dflash \
--model-draft ~/.hipfire/models/qwen38-27b-dflash-mq4.hfq \
qwen3.8:27b "Design a streaming Rust file deduplicator."
Usage
# Canonical MQ4V2 base tier
hipfire pull qwen3.8:27b
hipfire run qwen3.8:27b "Design a streaming Rust file deduplicator."
# Explicit ladder cells
hipfire pull qwen3.8:27b-mq3-xt
hipfire pull qwen3.8:27b-mq4-pro
hipfire pull qwen3.8:27b-mq6
Runtime defaults
Every non-draft Qwen3.8 ladder tag receives the same registry tag policy:
| Setting | Value |
|---|---|
| KV cache | Q8 |
| KV backend | VMM |
| Native context | 262,144 tokens |
| Maximum output | 81,920 tokens |
| Temperature | 1.0 |
| Top-p | 0.95 |
| Top-k | 20 |
| Min-p | 0.0 |
| Presence penalty | 0.0 |
| Repeat penalty | 1.0 |
| Reasoning effort | xhigh |
| Thinking budget | uncapped |
Measurement status
The WT2 KLD values above use 24 scored chunks against the pinned WT2 teacher, Q8 KV, and prefill scoring. They measure quantization quality rather than runtime speed.
The earlier throughput rows have been withdrawn because they predated the
restored gfx1100 MQ4V2 multi-wave dispatch. Fresh hipfire bench --matrix
results for gfx1100, gfx1151, and gfx1201 are being collected against corrected
master bca38df0a; no pre-restoration throughput numbers are shown here.
Wire format
MQ V2 uses an 8-byte dual-FP16 affine header per 256-weight group: one scale/zero pair for weights 0โ127 and one for 128โ255. Wire IDs are MQ4V2 qt44, MQ6V2 qt47, MQ5V2 qt48, and MQ3V2 qt49.
License and attribution
The upstream Qwen3.8 weights are Apache-2.0 licensed. These quantized artifacts were produced for hipfire using its MagnumQuant FWHT-rotated quantization family. See the upstream model card and hipfire provenance.
Model tree for hipfire-models/qwen3.8-27b
Base model
Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B