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Clay C. SLAGLE v. Beverly ROSS et al.
    1090638.
    Supreme Court of Alabama.
    June 15, 2012.
    Opinion Denying Rehearing March 29, 2013.
    
      Mark G. Montiel, Sr., and Joi Tatum Montiel of Mark G. Montiel, P.C., Montgomery, for appellant.
    Terry G. Davis of Davis & Hatcher, LLC, Montgomery; and James R. Seale and Jayne Harrell Williams of Hill, Hill, Carter, Franco, Cole & Black, P.C., Montgomery, for appellees.
    Dennis R. Bailey and Bethany L. Bolger of Rushton, Stakely, Johnston & Garrett, P.A., Montgomery, for amicus curiae Alabama Press Association, in support of the appellant.
    Lorelei A. Lein, deputy gen. counsel, Alabama League of Municipalities, Montgomery, for amicus curiae Alabama League of Municipalities, in support of the appellees.
    
      
       Retired Associate Justice R. Bernard Har-wood, Jr., was appointed on May 1, 2012, to serve as a Special Justice in regard to this appeal. Although he was not present at the oral argument in this case, he has viewed a video recording of that oral argument.
    
    
      
       Although Chief Justice Malone did not attend oral argument in this case, he has viewed a video recording of that oral argument.
    
    
      
       Retired Associate Justice R. Bernard Har-wood, Jr., was appointed on May 1, 2012, to serve as a Special Justice in regard to this appeal. Although he was not present at the oral argument in this case, he has viewed a video recording of that oral argument.
    
   PER CURIAM.

Clay C. Slagle appeals from the dismissal by the Montgomery Circuit Court of his action against the seven members of the Montgomery County Board of Education (“the Board”) and the superintendent of the Montgomery County School System alleging that they violated the Alabama Open Meetings Act, § 36-25A-1 et seq., Ala.Code 1975 (hereinafter referred to as “the Act”). We affirm.

I. Facts and Procedural History

At the time of this action, the Board consisted of seven members: Board President Beverly Ross, Melissa Snowden, Heather Sellers, Charlotte Meadows, Eleanor Dawkins, Mary Briers, and Robert Porterfield.

In April 2009, the then superintendent of the Montgomery County School System resigned and Slagle was appointed the interim superintendent while the Board conducted a search for a new superintendent. On June 15, 2009, four members of the Board — Ross, Dawkins, Briers, and Port-erfield — were individually invited to attend an annual gathering of local, elected officials. Ross testified that each of these members had attended this event in previous years but that all four never had attended at the same time. On this occasion, however, it is undisputed that all four members attended the event. It is also undisputed that as soon as those members of the Board realized that four of them were present, Dawkins left the event so that it could not be said that a quorum of the Board was gathered at the event. At some point, Ross left the event and Daw-kins returned to the event so that she could participate in part of it.

There is conflicting evidence as to the nature of the discussion that occurred at the June 15, 2009, event between the Board members who attended it. Slagle testified that, at a meeting of the Board held on July 1, 2009, one Board member made a comment about a previously held “secret meeting” of Board members, apparently referring to the June 15, 2009, event at which Ross, Dawkins, Briers, and Porterfield were present. Slagle also testified that he had been told by an elected official that at the June 15, 2009, event these four Board members discussed the applications for the superintendent position and the qualifications of Slagle and other applicants. Board member Meadows testified that Board member Briers had made comments to her indicating that matters relating to the selection of a new superintendent were discussed at the June 15, 2009, event.

None of the Board members present at the June 15, 2009, event, however, confirmed that they deliberated about filling the superintendent position or other Board business at the event. Specifically, Ross testified in her affidavit that the members discussed “community” issues at the event with other elected officials. Briers admitted at trial that the Board members who participated in the June 15 event talked about “the system,” but she denied that there was discussion of the selection of a superintendent for the school system. Another witness, Montgomery City Councilman Tracy Larkin, testified that “Montgomery public education was discussed at the meeting.”

At the July 1, 2009, public meeting of the Board, the Board voted to hire Barbara Thompson as superintendent of the Montgomery County School System.

On November 11, 2009, Ross sent a memo to the other members of the Board asking them to attend meetings on November 16, 2009, with Superintendent Thompson to discuss Thompson’s goals and objectives for the school district. President Ross scheduled the following “groups” of Board members to meet in succession with the superintendent on the following schedule:

10:00-10:45 a.m. — Ross, Snowden, and Dawkins.
11:00-11:45 a.m. — Ross, Briers, and Meadows.
12:00-12:45 p.m. — Ross, Sellers, and Porterfield.

It is undisputed that the Board members discussed the same matters in each meeting, that no more than three members of the Board were present in each meeting with Superintendent Thompson, and that no notice of these meetings was provided to the public. In a public meeting held the next day, November 17, 2009, the Board approved the superintendent’s report.

On December 4, 2009, Slagle filed this action against Board members Ross, Snowden, Sellers, Meadows, Dawkins, Briers, and Porterfield in their official capacities and against Thompson in her official capacity as superintendent, alleging that the Board members violated the Act on June 15, 2009, and that the Board members and Superintendent Thompson violated the Act on November 16, 2009. The defendants subsequently filed motions to dismiss Slagle’s complaint.

The trial court held a preliminary hearing on Slagle’s complaint, during which it accepted testimony from several witnesses. Following the hearing, on January 28, 2010, the trial court entered an order granting the defendants’ motions to dismiss. The trial court concluded that, because a quorum was not physically present and discussing Board business at any given time on either June 15 or November 16, the Board did not hold a “meeting,” as that term is defined in the Act, on either occasion. Based on this finding, the trial court dismissed Slagle’s claims against the Board members and Superintendent Thompson. Slagle appeals the trial court’s judgment of dismissal.

II. Procedure in the Trial Court Under the Open Meetings Act and this Court’s Standard of Review

Section 36-25A-9, Ala.Code 1975, of the Act explains the procedure to be followed in an action alleging a violation of the Act. Subsection (a) provides that “[ejnforcement of this chapter may be sought by civil action brought in the county where the governmental body’s primary office is located by ... any Alabama citizen” and that “[a] preliminary hearing on the complaint filed shall be held no later than 10 business days after the date of the filing of the defendant or defendants’ initial response to the complaint....”

Section 36-25A-9(b), Ala.Code 1975, sets out the standard of proof required for the plaintiffs complaint to survive the preliminary hearing. In pertinent part, § 36-25A-9(b) provides:

“(b) In the preliminary hearing on the complaint, the plaintiff shall establish by a preponderance of the evidence that a meeting of the governmental body occurred and that each defendant attended the meeting. Additionally, to establish a prima facie case the plaintiff must present substantial evidence of one or more of the following claims:
“(1) That the defendants disregarded the requirements for proper notice of the meeting pursuant to the applicable methods set forth in Section 36-25A-3.
“(4) That, other than a claim under subdivisions (1) through (3), the defendants intentionally violated other provisions of this chapter.”

Subsection (c) explains that “[i]f the court finds that the plaintiff has met its initial burden of proof as required in subsection (b) at the preliminary hearing, the court shall establish a schedule for discovery and set the matter for a hearing on the merits.” § 36-25A-9(c), Ala.Code 1975.

The trial court in this case concluded that Slagle did not satisfy his initial burden of proof prescribed by § 36-25A-9(b). Although this Court reviews a trial court’s findings of fact based on evidence received ore tenus under a deferential standard, see Ex parte Pielach, 681 So.2d 154, 154-55 (Ala.1996), the present appeal turns upon the proper interpretation of the law and the proper application of that law to the facts, matters this Court addresses de novo. See Espinoza v. Rudolph, 46 So.3d 403, 412 (Ala.2010).

III. Analysis

A. Substantive Statutory Provisions

It is undisputed that the Board qualifies as a “governmental body” that is subject to the provisions of the Act. It also is undisputed that, if a “meeting,” either of the Board or of a committee of the Board, as that term is defined by the Act, occurred on either June 15, 2009, or November 16, 2009, the requirement for public notice of that meeting was not met.

Section 36-25A-2, Ala.Code 1975, defines pertinent terms used in the Act. It defines “meeting” as follows:

“(6) Meeting, a. Subject to the limitations herein, the term meeting shall only apply to the following:
“1. The prearranged gathering of a quorum of a governmental body or a quorum of a committee or subcommittee of a governmental body at a time and place which is set by law or operation of law.
“2. The prearranged gathering of a quorum of a governmental body or a quorum of a committee or subcommittee of a governmental body during which the body, committee, or subcommittee of the governmental body is authorized, either by law or otherwise, to exercise the powers which it possesses or approve the expenditure of public funds.
“3. The gathering, whether or not it was prearranged, of a quorum of a governmental body or a quorum of a committee or a subcommittee of a governmental body during which the members of the governmental body deliberate specific matters that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date.
“b. The term ‘meeting’ shall not include:
“1. Occasions when a quorum of a governmental body, committee, or subcommittee attends social gatherings, conventions, conferences, training programs, press conferences, media events, or otherwise gathers so long as the governmental body does not deliberate specific matters that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the governmental body at a later date.
“2. Occasions when a quorum of a governmental body gathers, in person or by electronic communication, with state or federal officials for the purpose of reporting or obtaining information or seeking support for issues of importance to the governmental body.”

Section 36-25A-2 defines the term “deliberation” as follows:

“(1) Deliberation. An exchange of information or ideas among a quorum of members of a governmental body intended to arrive at or influence a decision as to how the members of the governmental body should vote on a specific matter that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the body immediately following the discussion or at a later time.”

Finally, the term “quorum” is defined in § 36-25A-2(12) as “a majority of the voting members of a governmental body.” It is undisputed that the Board consists of seven members; thus, a gathering of four members of the Board constitutes a quorum of the Board.

B. Whether There Was a “Meeting” of “the Board” on Either June 15 or November 16

Slagle contends that the June 15, 2009, event involving local elected officials qualifies as a “meeting” of the Board because, he argues, four members of the Board were together at one point at the event and two of those members purposefully rotated in and out of the event to prevent a quorum of the Board from forming. He also alleges that the Board members present deliberated about matters that came before the Board in a subsequent public meeting. Specifically, Slagle alleges that the Board members discussed the qualifications of applicants for the superintendent position, and it is undisputed that at the next public meeting of the Board on July 1, 2009, the Board voted to hire Thompson as superintendent of the Montgomery County School System. Slagle urges this Court to conclude that a “meeting” of the Board occurred at the June 15, 2009, event within the meaning of § 36-25A-2(6)a.3 because we “should not allow an attempt of a governmental body to govern in secret, as occurred here, by rotating Board members in and out of a meeting to avoid the simultaneous appearance of a quorum.”

Likewise, Slagle contends that the three sequential meetings that occurred on November 16, 2009, “were, in substance and in essence, one ‘meeting of the Board, and thus were subject to the Open Meetings Act.” Slagle argues that even though a quorum of Board members was not present in one place at precisely the same time, a “gathering” of the Board occurred between the hours of 10:00 a.m. and 12:45 p.m., in light of the nature of the “serial meetings” that were conducted and knowingly attended as such by the members of the Board.

Slagle notes that this Court held in the oft-cited case of Miglionico v. Birmingham News Co., 378 So.2d 677 (Ala.1979), that the predecessor to the Open Meetings Act, Alabama’s Sunshine Law, “ ‘was [enacted] wholly in the public interest and is to be liberally interpreted’ most favorably to the public.” 378 So.2d at 680 (quoting Laman v. McCord, 245 Ark. 401, 405, 432 S.W.2d 753, 755 (1968)). Slagle states that he is asking for nothing more than a “liberal construction” of the term “meeting” as used in the Act so that, he says, the deliberative process of governmental bodies remains open to the public.

The Alabama Press Association has filed an amicus brief in support of Slagle’s appeal. The Alabama Press Association argues that, if we approve the serial arrangement used by the Board on November 16, we will have “established a road map for how to deliberate, influence, and poll votes on public issues without calling public meetings.”

Although we agree that we must liberally construe the terms of the Act so as to accomplish its purpose, the fact remains that we are limited by those terms. The judiciary cannot undertake to aid the legislature in its task by treating the Act as if it uses some different terms. Indeed, it is only in the terms of the Act that we know what “task” the legislature truly undertook. If the meaning of those terms is plain and unambiguous, we are not free to derive from them some different meaning.

“The cardinal rule of statutory interpretation is to determine and give effect to the intent of the legislature as manifested in the language of the statute. Gholston v. State, 620 So.2d 719 (Ala.1993). Absent a clearly expressed legislative intent to the contrary, the language of the statute is conclusive. Words must be given théir natural, ordinary, commonly understood meaning, and where plain language is used, the court is bound to interpret that language to mean exactly what it says.”

Ex parte State Dep’t of Revenue, 683 So.2d 980, 983 (Ala.1996). “ ‘ “If a statute is not ambiguous or unclear, the courts are not authorized to indulge in conjecture as to the intent of the Legislature or to look to consequences of the interpretation of the law as written.” ’ ” Ex parte Morris, 999 So.2d 932, 938 (Ala.2008) (quoting Gray v. Gray, 947 So.2d 1045, 1050 (Ala.2006), quoting in turn Ex parte Presse, 554 So.2d 406, 411 (Ala.1989)).

Slagle argues that the June 15, 2009, event and the meetings that occurred on November 16, 2009, constitute “meeting[s]” of the Board as that term is defined by § 36-25A-2(6)a.3, Ala.Code 1975. That section states that a “meeting” includes a “gathering, whether or not it was prearranged, of a quorum of a governmental body ... during which the members of the governmental body deliberate specific matters that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the body ... at a later date.” As noted above, a “quorum” is defined in § 36-25A-2(12) as “a majority of the voting members of a governmental body.”

The term “gathering” is not given any special definition in the Act. Webster’s Third New International Dictionary of the English Language Unabridged 940 (2002) defines it as “a coming together of people in a group.” If the phrase “coming together” does not mean — and plainly so— a coming together at the same time, then both it and the term “gathering” would appear to be left with no real meaning. Thus, a plain reading of § 36-25A-2(6)a.S yields the conclusion that a “meeting” occurs when a majority of the members of a governmental body come together at the same time.

Neither the gatherings on June 15, 2009, nor any of the gatherings that occurred on November 16, 2009, qualify as “meetings” of the Board under the statutory definition of that term. Although a majority of the Board members initially were together at the same time during the June 15, 2009, event, once that fact was noticed, one of the Board members left the event. No Board business was discussed during the brief gathering that occurred before one of the members left and less than a quorum remained. It is undisputed that, during the remainder of the June 15 event (when conflicting evidence indicates that Board business may have been discussed), a majority of the Board members were not together at the same time. Likewise, it is undisputed that a majority of the Board members were not together at any time on November 16, 2009. Accordingly, the events of June 15 and November 16 did not involve “meetings” of the Board according to the definition provided in § 36-25A-2(6)a.3.

It is true that the purpose of the Act is similar to its sister act, the Open Records Act, which this Court has stated “is remedial and should therefore be liberally construed in favor of the public.” Water Works & Sewer Bd. of Talladega v. Consolidated Publ’g, Inc., 892 So.2d 859, 862 (Ala.2004). As the rules of statutory construction quoted above make clear, however, the primary evidence of legislative intent is the language of the statute itself, and “[i]f the language of the statute is unambiguous, then there is no room for judicial construction and the clearly expressed intent of the legislature must be given effect.” IMED Corp. v. Systems Eng’g Assocs. Corp., 602 So.2d 344, 346 (Ala.1992). In other words, we are not free to take up Slagle’s invitation to provide a “liberal construction” of the term “meeting” as defined in the statute because the language of the Act defining that term is plain and unambiguous. See Ex parte Morris, 999 So.2d at 937 n. 1 (noting that a “limitation on the rule of liberal construction [is] that such construction must be one that the language of the statute fairly and reasonably supports. A construction cannot be said to be fairly and reasonably supported when it is necessary to resort to judicial interlineation of a term that alters the plain meaning of the statute”).

We find unpersuasive the cases from other jurisdictions cited by Slagle and the Alabama Press Association in its amicus brief that have interpreted open-meetings laws in those jurisdictions more broadly because, with one exception, those courts failed to address whether the statutes they were construing were ambiguous before judicially construing the term “meeting” as used in those statutes. See, e.g., Esperanza Peace & Justice Ctr. v. City of San Antonio, 316 F.Supp.2d 433 (W.D.Tex.2001); State ex rel. Cincinnati Post v. Cincinnati, 76 Ohio St.3d 540, 668 N.E.2d 903 (1996); Booth Newspapers, Inc. v. Wyoming City Council, 168 Mich.App. 459, 425 N.W.2d 695 (1988); Stockton Newspapers, Inc. v. Members of Redev. Agency, 171 Cal.App.3d 95, 214 Cal.Rptr. 561 (Cal.Ct.App.1985); Brown v. E. Baton Rouge Parish Sch. Bd., 405 So.2d 1148 (La.Ct.App.1981); and Blackford for Use & Benefit of Cherokee Jr. High Sch. Parent-Teacher Ass’n v. School Bd. of Orange Cnty., 375 So.2d 578 (Fla.Dist.Ct.App.1979).

In the one ease that is an exception, Right to Know Committee v. City Council, City & County of Honolulu, 117 Haw. 1, 10-12, 175 P.3d 111, 120-22 (Haw.Ct.App.2007), the Hawaii Court of Appeals did not find the term “meeting” to be ambiguous. Rather, it pointed to a subsection of Hawaii’s Sunshine Law that provides that “ ‘[n]o chance meeting, permitted interaction, or electronic communication shall be used to circumvent the spirit or requirements of [the Sunshine Law]....’” 117 Haw. at 11, 175 P.3d at 121 (quoting Hawaii Rev.' Stat. § 92-5(b)). The court found that “[t]he phrase ‘circumvent the spirit’ of the Sunshine Law is far from plain and unambiguous.” 117 Haw. at 12, 175 P.3d at 122. Thus, the legislature in that case provided the Hawaii Court of Appeals a textual basis upon which that court could and did act, which the legislature of this State has not done in our statute.

In contrast, in cases in which courts have applied a plain-meaning analysis to their open-meetings statutes, they have arrived at the same conclusion we arrive at in this case. For example, in Dillman v. Trustees of Indiana University, 848 N.E.2d 348 (Ind.Ct.App.2006), the plaintiffs alleged that the trustees of the University of Indiana had violated Indiana’s Open Door Law when an executive session of trustees met to discuss terminating the employment of the University’s basketball coach and when the president of the University had met informally with some trustees in his home concerning the same subject. The Dillman court declined to find that these meetings violated Indiana’s Open Door Law. At the outset, the Dill-man court noted that “[t]he purpose of the Open Door Law is to assure that the business of the State of Indiana and its political subdivisions be conducted openly so that the general public may be fully informed” and that the court must “liberally construe the statute in order to give effect to the legislature’s intention.” 848 N.E.2d at 351. Indiana’s Open Door Law defined a “meeting” as “ ‘a gathering of a majority of the governing body of a public agency for the purpose of taking official action on public business.’ Ind.Code § 5-14-1.5-2(c) (2002 & Supp.2005).” Id. Just as Slagle argues before this Court, the appellants in Dillman “assert[ed] that because ‘there is no specific language that requires that a majority of a political subdivision meet simultaneously in one room at the same time,’ the term meeting must be construed to include consecutive gatherings of less than a majority.” Id. The Dillman court concluded, however, that, although the law must be liberally construed, “the legislature has specifically defined ‘meeting’ under the Open Door Law as ‘a gathering of a majority of the governing body_’ Ind.Code § 5-14-1.5-2(e). Thus, without a majority present, no meeting occurs for purposes of the Open Door Law.” Id.

In Dewey v. Redevelopment Agency of Reno, 119 Nev. 87, 64 P.3d 1070 (2003), the Nevada Supreme Court declined to find that “back-to-back briefings” of the members of the City of Reno’s Redevelopment Agency “created a constructive quorum or serial communication in violation of’ Nevada’s Open Meeting Law. 119 Nev. at 98, 64 P.3d at 1077-78. Similar to the Act, Nevada’s Open Meeting Law defined a “meeting” as “ ‘the gathering of members of a public body at which a quorum is present to deliberate toward a decision or to take action on any matter over which the public body has supervision, control, jurisdiction or advisory power.’ ” 119 Nev. at 95, 64 P.3d at 1076 (quoting Nev.Rev. Stat. 241.015(2) (1999)). The Court specifically noted that “‘“[w]here the language of a statute is plain and unambiguous, and its meaning is clear and unmistakable, there is no room for construction, and the courts are not permitted to search for its meaning beyond the statute itself.” ’ ” 119 Nev. at 94, 64 P.3d at 1075. The Dewey Court noted that a quorum was not present at the meetings, and it reasoned that “the quorum standard is a ‘brightline standard [in] legislative recognition of a demarcation between the public’s right of access and the practical necessity that government must function on an orderly, but nonetheless legitimate, basis.’” 119 Nev. at 98, 64 P.3d at 1078 (quoting Delaware Solid Waste Auth. v. News-Journal Co., 480 A.2d 628, 635 (Del.1984)).

Cases such as Dillman and Dewey illustrate that where the language of an open-meetings statute is clear and unambiguous, a court must effect the intent of the legislature by strictly applying the statute as written. “This Court is not at liberty to rewrite statutes or to substitute its judgment for that of the Legislature.” Ex parte Carlton, 867 So.2d 332, 338 (Ala.2003). The Act clearly defines the term “meeting” to include a gathering of a majority of the members a governmental body. In the instances challenged in this case, no such gatherings of the Board occurred so as to constitute a meeting of that body within the meaning of § 36-25A-2(6)a.3.

C. Whether Each Separate Gathering on November 16 Constituted a “Meeting” of a “Committee”

Slagle contends that the three groups appointed, scheduled, and presided over by Board President Ross on November 16 implicated the Act for a second reason. Slagle contends that, given the manner in which these groups were appointed by the president of the Board, the purpose for which these groups were appointed, and the manner in which they did in fact function on November 16, these groups must be considered “special committees” of the Board within the meaning of the Act. For the reasons discussed below, we agree. That each of these groups is properly considered a special committee of the Board, however, does not answer the separate question — whether Slagle has presented a ground upon which we should conclude that each of these special committees conducted a “meeting” within the meaning of § 36-25A-2(6). We first discuss our conclusion that each of these “groups” is properly considered a “committee” of the Board.

Slagle correctly notes that the Act applies not only to meetings of governmental bodies as a whole, but also to “[t]he gathering ... of ... a quorum of a committee or a subcommittee of a governmental body ....” § 36-25A-2(6)a.3., Ala.Code 1975. The Act states that a “governmental body” includes “all standing, special, or advisory committees or subcommittees of, or appointed by, the body.” § 36-25A-2(4), Ala.Code 1975. Although the Act does not define “committee” or “special committee,” nothing in the Act limits that concept to groups expressly labeled as such by the presiding officer, or by the body itself, and it scarcely could be contended that a group that otherwise functions as a committee for purposes of the Act could avoid the operation of the Act simply by using a moniker such as “group” rather than “committee.”

Further, the manner in which the groups in question were formed comports with the Board’s established procedures for forming committees. Specifically; the Board’s procedures manual provides that committees are appointed by the president of the Board: “It is the duty of the chairman [or president] of the Board to appoint all committees except where the Board itself decides otherwise.” The three groups at issue here were appointed by President Ross. Not only did she appoint the members of each group, she set their respective meeting times, prescribed the agenda for each meeting, and presided over the fulfillment of that agenda. The Board’s procedures manual also expressly limits the size of any one committee to three board members: “No more than three (3) Board members shall be appointed to a committee.” President Ross observed this limitation by appointing three members of the Board to each of the groups in question. Finally, the procedures manual provides that, in addition to standing committees, committees can be appointed “on an ad hoc basis.” The three groups at issue here were so appointed.

With respect to the provision in the Act for “special committees,” Slagle observes that “words used in a statute must be given their natural, plain, ordinary, and commonly understood meaning, and where pain language is used a court is bound to interpret that language to mean exactly what it says.” Slagle’s brief, at 41 (quoting Blue Cross & Blue Shield v. Nielsen, 714 So.2d 293, 296 (Ala.1998), quoting in turn IMED Corp., 602 So.2d at 346). He then notes that Black’s Law Dictionary 290 (8th ed.2004) defines a “special committee” simply as a committee established for a “particular purpose or a limited time.” (Emphasis added.) We agree that this definition aptly characterizes the groups appointed by President Ross and directed by her to meet on November 16 both for a “particular purpose” and for a “limited time.” Specifically, as President Ross explains in her affidavit, “[a] requirement in the Superintendent’s employment contract "with the Board was for the superintendent to submit to the Board her goals and objectives for the district [and that] these goals and objectives be reviewed by the Board on or before November 30, 2009.” Although this review could have been accomplished by the Board in its public meeting on the following day, November 17, 2009, President Ross expressly admits that she organized and scheduled the three groups in question specifically as a means for “the Board” to fulfill its duties in this regard in private: “In order for the Board [to] review the goals and objectives before the required date, I scheduled three (3) group meetings of members of the board for Monday, November 16, 2009 to meet with the Superintendent.”

In addition, the aforesaid purpose stated by President Ross and acknowledged by the testimony of other Board members comports with provisions of that section of the Board’s procedures manual that addresses “Committees of the Board of Education.” That section states, in pertinent part:

“Committees — The Board may delegate portions of its exploratory, fact-finding, and preliminary work to committees. These are advisory, however, and have no power to take action, whatsoever, or to commit the Board to any course of action. All committees shall make a report of their findings.”

(Emphasis added.) That is precisely what the Board appears to have done in this case.

The evidence before the trial court was to the effect that the Board had in the past commonly used what was called the “small-group” approach. In an e-mail to a Board member attempting to defend the practice, Ramadanah Jones, staff attorney for the Board, referenced the use of “small group meetings to work through issues .... It was my understanding that the small groups were just easier for the Board’s schedule to work through the goals and more efficient for the superintendent to gain feedback.” (Emphasis added.) The powers and functions referenced in this e-mail are, of course, the very powers and functions that the Board is supposed to be exercising and performing• in public meetings. As Board member Meadows expressed in a statement to the press that was admitted into evidence: “It was clear the only reason to form these sub-groups was to avoid the media and the public.” As she also testified in court: “I think we met in those groups in those type of settings so we could specifically avoid the media, and I think that’s wrong.”

In an effort to cast the work of the groups she appointed as being outside the scope of the Act, President Ross asserted in her affidavit that “[a]s a group of three (3) members or less, we have no authority or power to take any action on behalf of the Board.” This assertion may be true insofar as “any action” in the form of a formal, binding vote on some proposal. “Actions ... of the Board,” and a fortiori of committees, can and do include more than just voting on proposals. In this case, each of three groups appointed by the president for the explicit purpose of doing so, did in fact function as the vehicle by which the superintendent “submitted” her report to the Board. Then, in accordance with their charge by the president, each of these groups “reviewed” and “deliberated” the report among themselves and with the superintendent, all so that the members of each group would be prepared to vote upon the report at the public meeting to be held the next day. We therefore conclude that each of these groups satisfied Black’s definition of a “special committee,” having been appointed for “a particular purpose” and “a limited time.”

We turn now to the question whether we have before us in this case any ground upon which we should conclude that the three “special committees” appointed by President Ross engaged in “meetings” within the meaning of that term as defined in § 36-25A-2(6)a. That section provides three grounds upon which a group may be considered to hold a “meeting.” The first, set out in clause 1, requires a gathering of a quorum of the committee “at a time and place which is set by law or operation of law.” The second, as set out in clause 2, requires a prearranged gathering “to exercise the powers which [the committee] possesses” or to approve the expenditure of funds. Of these two, and consistent with the foregoing discussion of the powers delegated and fulfilled by the groups in question, it might be argued that clause 2 would be applicable. We decline to consider either of these clauses, however, because Slagle limits his argument to clause 3 of § 36-25A-2(6)a. We therefore turn our attention to that provision.

As previously noted, clause 3 of § 36-25A-2(6)a provides that a “meeting” includes:

“[t]he gathering, whether or not it was prearranged, of a quorum of a governmental body or a quorum of a committee or a subcommittee of a governmental body during which the members of the governmental body deliberate specific matters that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date.”

(Emphasis added.)

As we have already noted in Part III.B. . of this opinion, when the words of a statute are clear and unambiguous, “then there is no room for judicial construction and the clearly expressed intent of the legislature must be given effect.” IMED Corp., 602 So.2d at 346. Slagle’s argument to this Court assumes that a “meeting” of a committee occurs under clause 3 if a quorum of that committee gathers to deliberate a specific matter that is expected to come at a later date before either that committee or the' principal, or “greater,” body of which that committee is a part. Without any citation to authority or further analysis of the point, Slagle simply asserts that “[a] gathering is a ‘meeting’ under [clause 3] where members simply deliberate matters that are expected to come before the committee or' the body at a later date.” Slagle’s brief, at 46. Thus, according to Slagle, clause 3 applies here because a quorum of each of the three special committees gathered to deliberate a matter expected to come before' the Board as a whole at a later date. Without more, we cannot agree.

To the contrary, we find that the language and syntax of clause 3 are such as to plainly address the circumstance where members amounting to a quorum of a given “governmental body” gather to deliberate in advance an issue that is expected to come before that body. That is, it applies when members amounting to a quorum of given body gather to deliberate a matter that the participants expect to come at some later date before the same body as to which those members constitute a quorum. It begins by addressing gatherings amounting to “a quorum of a governmental body or a quorum of a committee or a subcommittee of a governmental body” and then addresses “members of the governmental body” (again, a term that can refer to either a principal governmental body or to a committee or subcommittee of that body) who gather to deliberate specific matters that they expect to come “before the body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date.” (Emphasis added.)

As a corollary to the conclusion that this understanding of clause 3 reflects the plain meaning of the language and syntax employed in that provision, we note that this understanding of clause 3 avoids what the Board correctly observes would be an unreasonable meaning, and thus a meaning we would be unwilling to attribute to clause 3 in any event. See Ex parte Krages, 689 So.2d 799, 805 (Ala.1997) (“ ‘ “If a statute is susceptible of two constructions, one of which is workable and fair and the other unworkable and unjust the court will assume that the legislature intended that which is workable and fair.’”” (quoting other cases; emphasis omitted)); Franks v. Jordan, 55 So.3d 1218, 1224 (Ala.Civ.App.2010) (“We must presume the legislature intended a rational result.”). Specifically, we could not read clause 3 as being intended by the legislature to impose the requirements of the Act upon any gathering of members who do not amount to a quorum of the principal, or “greater,” governmental body — but who instead amount only to a quorum of a committee of that greater body — in which the participants discuss a matter expected to come only before the greater body. As the Board members point out, such an interpretation would mean that no two members who happen to serve on any three-member committee of a greater governmental body could ever have even an informal discussion about any issue they expect to come not before their committee, but before the greater body.

Based on the foregoing, we are clear to the conclusion that the gathering of a quorum of a committee (e.g., two members of a three-member committee) to discuss a specific matter which the members of the committee expect to come before their committee at a later date is the circumstance clause 3 was intended to address. Accordingly, although we agree with Sla-gle that the groups appointed and orchestrated by President Ross to perform certain tasks on November 16, i.e., to receive and deliberate the superintendent’s report, should be understood as special committees of the Board that were appointed for those particular purposes, we must reject Slagle’s argument that these committees engaged in “meetings” within the meaning of clause 3 of § 36-25A-2(6)a.

IV. Conclusion

A plain reading of the Open Meetings Act shows that neither the presence of Board members at the June 15, 2009, event nor the back-to-back meetings of groups of Board members on November 16, 2009, constituted a “gathering” of a quorum of the Board itself. Likewise, although the group sessions held on November 16, 2009, constituted gatherings of special committees of the Board, the meeting of such committees does not qualify as a “meeting” within the meaning of § 36-25A-2(6)a.3, Ala.Code 1975. Therefore, the trial court’s judgment in this case must be affirmed.

AFFIRMED.

WOODALL, STUART, and PARKER,. JJ., concur.

MURDOCK, J., and HARWOOD, Special Justice, concur specially.

BOLIN and SHAW, JJ., concur in the result in part and dissent in part.

MALONE, C.J., and MAIN, J., dissent.

WISE, J., recuses herself.

MURDOCK, Justice

(concurring specially).

I concur in the main opinion. I write specially to further address Justice Shaw’s special writing.

In his opinion concurring in the result in part and dissenting in part, Justice Shaw states:

“The main opinion’s interpretation of § 36-25A-2(6)a.3 ... has the ‘unusual’ result of enshrining into law the practice this Court found unaddressed by the Sunshine Law in Auburn University [v. Advertiser Co., 867 So.2d 293 (Ala.2003) ]: members of governmental bodies can meet in small, one-time groups to deliberate issues that will come before the governmental body, so long as the issue will not again come before that particular group.”

125 So.3d at 136-37 n. 11. I believe this comment misstates the practice with which the Court was concerned in Auburn University v. Advertiser Co., 867 So.2d 293 (Ala.2003). It fails to recognize the Court’s concern in Auburn University with standing committees consisting of less than a quorum of the Board who were able to meet and perform the functions delegated to them without publicizing their meetings because the Sunshine Law did not, by its terms, apply to “committees.” As discussed in the main opinion, the Open Meetings Act, which replaced the Sunshine Law, by its terms now applies to committees.

Justice Shaw concludes the final note in his special writing with this comment:

“If this Court’s interpretation of the Open Meetings Act, following the accepted principles of statutory construction of such laws as set out above, were to sweep too broadly, then it would be the legislature’s prerogative to narrow its language and thus its scope.”

125 So.3d at 136-37 n. 11 (Shaw, J., concurring in the result in part and dissenting in part). Because this Court is not a policy-making body, the only measure of whether our interpretation of the Open Meetings Act would “sweep too broadly” is whether it sweeps beyond the language chosen by the legislature. I believe this Court has in the main opinion in this case met its responsibility to accurately assess the meaning of that particular language. I would say that, if the legislature hereafter wishes to impose a rule that sweeps more broadly than does the current Open Meetings Act, “then it would be the legislature’s prerogative to [broaden] its language and thus its scope.”

HARWOOD, Special Justice

(concurring specially).

I concur in the main opinion. I write specially to note that I consider the interpretation of Ala.Code 1975, § 36-25A-2(6)a.3, set out in Part III.C of the main opinion to be further supported by the phrasing of the related subsection that immediately follows it in the Code, § 36-25A-2(6)b.l.

Section 36-25A-2(6)a.3 provides:

“[T]he term meeting shall only apply to the following:
“3. The gathering, whether or not it was prearranged, of a quorum of a governmental body or a quorum of a committee or a subcommittee of a governmental body during which the members of the governmental body deliberate specific matters that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date.”

(Emphasis added.)

Following immediately thereafter is § 36-25A-2(6)b.l, which reads:

“The term ‘meeting’ shall not include:
“1. Occasions when a quorum of a governmental body, committee, or subcommittee attends social gatherings, conventions, conferences, training programs, press conferences, media events, or otherwise gathers so long as the governmental body does not deliberate specific matters that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the governmental body at a later date.”

(Emphasis added.)

For the sake of simplicity, I will hereinafter refer to § 36-25A-2(6)a.3 as “clause 3,” as does the main opinion; I will refer to § 36-25A-2(6)b.l as “clause b.l.”

A comparison of the two clauses readily reveals that clause b.l is essentially the converse of clause 3. Both clauses begin by identifying the three separate governmental-body organizational units they propose to address: (1) a governmental body, (2) a committee, and (3) a subcommittee. Each clause is concerned with a gathering of a quorum. (Clause 3 references “[t]he gathering” of such a quorum, and clause b.l references “[occasions when a quorum” is in attendance at certain specified events “or otherwise gathers....”) The two clauses continue in their parallel, but converse, declarations of what constitutes, or does not constitute, a “meeting,” by reference to what matters are deliberated. Under clause 3, if “the members of the governmental body” deliberate matters they expect to come before “the body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date,” a meeting has occurred. On the other hand, clause b.l states that a “meeting” does not take place when one of the three organizational units “otherwise gathers so long as the governmental body does not deliberate specific matters that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the governmental body at a later date.”

Bearing in mind that § 36-25A-2(4) defines “governmental body” to include “all standing, special, or advisory committees or subcommittees of, or appointed by, the body,” clause b.l is reasonably understood to say that no meeting takes place upon the gathering of a quorum of one of the three governmental-body organizational units, so long as “the governmental body” does not deliberate specific matters expected to come before “the governmental body” at a later time. Clearly the legislature intended for the parallel structures of clause 3 and clause b.l, reciprocally explaining what is and what is not a “meeting,” to interface and to be inversely compatible. Therefore, I find that clause b.l sheds light on the meaning to be given to clause 3. Read according to its plain meaning, clause b.l states that if a quorum of a governmental body, or of a committee of that governmental body, or of a subcommittee of that governmental body gathers, a meeting does not occur “so long as the [particular] governmental body does not deliberate specific matters that ... the participating members expect to come before the [particular] governmental body [i.e., again, the principal body or the committee or the subcommittee, as the case may be] at a later date.” It would be unusual if the legislature intended that the phrasing of clause 3 should be read differently in that regard from clause b.l, given that the legislature essentially framed the one to be the mirror image of the other. This Court on numerous occasions over the years has called attention to the important principle of statutory construction that, in determining the intent of the legislature, a court must examine the statute as a whole and, if possible, give effect to each section, recognizing that parts of the same statute are to be read in pari materia and that each part is entitled to equal weight. See, e.g., First Union Nat’l Bank of Florida v. Lee Cnty. Comm’n, 75 So.3d 105, 111-12 (Ala.2011). Reading clause 3 and clause b.l in pari materia, I am persuaded that the legislature would not have intended clause b.l to be applied in a manner inconsistent with its counterpart clause 3, such that the incongruent result would obtain whereby under clause b.l a gathered organizational unit (whether it be the principal governmental body or a committee or a subcommittee of that body) would not be considered to have engaged in a meeting so long as “the governmental body” did not deliberate matters expected later to come before “the governmental body,” but under clause 3 a meeting would be deemed to have taken place if a quorum of one of the three organizational units deliberated matters expected later to come before either of the other two organizational units, as opposed to the particular organizational unit whose members had engaged in the deliberations.

SHAW, Justice

(concurring in the result in part and dissenting in part).

In my view, the three meetings that occurred on November 16, 2009, satisfy the definition of meetings of “committees” as contemplated by Ala.Code 1975, § 36-25A-2(6)a.3.

Section 36-25A-2(6)a.3 defines “meeting” as follows:

“The gathering ... of a quorum of a governmental body or a quorum of a committee or a subcommittee of a governmental body during which the members of the governmental body deliberate specific matters that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date.”

The main opinion holds that a “meeting” occurs only if a committee or a subcommittee meets for the purpose of deliberating on a matter that will come back before that committee or subcommittee. In other words, the main opinion reads the subsection as recognizing three distinct entities— governmental bodies, committees, and subcommittees — and holds that a gathering of (at least a quorum of) the members of one of those entities for the purpose of deliberation does not constitute a “meeting” unless the members expect to come back together again in the form of that particular discrete entity to further address that matter. This would also be the result if the subsection were modified to read:

“The gathering of a quorum of a governmental body or a quorum of a committee or a subcommittee of a governmental body during which the members of the governmental body deliberate specific matters that the participating members expect to come before that particular body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date.”

(Emphasis indicates added language.) Assuming, as the main opinion holds, that this is a reasonable reading of the text, it is not the only reasonable reading.

Committees and subcommittees are not discrete entities that exist in a vacuum or that act alone. Instead, they are part of a larger body, in the case of this subsection of the Code, the governmental body, and, under the facts of the instant case, the Board. This is a common and usual understanding of the terms “committee” and “subcommittee.” Subcommittees deliberate on matters and then report to committees; committees deliberate on matters and then report to the governmental body as a whole. Although a governmental body, a committee, or a subcommittee may deliberate on a matter that will come before that particular entity again, committees and subcommittees necessarily also deliberate on matters that are anticipated to come before the greater body (unless a matter dies in committee). The subsection assumes the existence of and recognizes this hierarchy of potential deliberating entities, discussing the “quorum” of the governmental body separately from the collective “quorum” of a committee or a subcommittee that the subsection acknowledges are a part of a governmental body: “quorum of a committee or a subcommittee [that is part] of a governmental body....”

The text of § 36-25A-2(6)a.3 must be read with this customary and usual hierarchical arrangement of governmental bodies, committees, and subcommittees in mind. The key factor discussed in the main opinion appears to be the reference in the subsection to the expectation that the specific matters initially deliberated will “come before the body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date.” The main opinion interprets “the” to mean “that” or “that particular,” thus restricting the later attention to the “specific matter” to that same governmental body, committee, or subcommittee.

This restrictive use of the word “the” is not required. If a specific matter is deliberated by a committee or a subcommittee, given the ordinary and customary usage of those terms described above, it is not at all unusual that the matter would be addressed at some later date by “the body” of which they are a part. It is ordinary and customary to “expect” matters deliberated in a subcommittee “to come before” a superior committee or “the body” of which both are a part, and it is ordinary and customary to “expect” matters deliberated in a committee “to come before the body” of which it is a part.

What language could the legislature have used in the subsection to provide that the Open Meetings Act would apply to a deliberation by a body, a committee, or a subcommittee when the matters discussed were expected either to come back before that specific entity or to be referred to its superior entity? I submit that it could be the language actually found in the definition of the term “meeting” in § 36-25A-2(6)a.3:

“The gathering ... during which the members of the governmental body deliberate specific matters that, at the time of the exchange, the participating members expect to come before the body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date.”

The phrase “the body, committee, or subcommittee at a later date” could refer to the entity where the initial deliberation took place, or the superior entity.

The main opinion discards this possible reading, citing authority for the proposition that this Court rejects a construction of a statute that is “unworkable or unjust.” Specifically, the main opinion adopts the Board’s argument and states: “[S]uch an interpretation would mean that no two members who happen to serve on any three-member committee of a greater governmental body could ever have even an informal discussion about any issue they expect to come not before their committee, but before the greater body.” 125 So.3d at 130 (emphasis omitted). However, this could be the exact situation the legislature intended to regulate. In Auburn University v. Advertiser Co., 867 So.2d 293, 301 (Ala.2003), this Court held that generally members of a body meeting in committees, which did not amount to a quorum of the body, did not fall under the auspices of the former Sunshine Law. The Sunshine Law was subsequently replaced by the Open Meetings Act, Act No. 2005-40, Ala. Acts 2005, which explicitly attempts to regulate governmental bodies meeting in committees and subcommittees.

In the instant case, the Board met in committees that consisted of a number less than a quorum of the full Board. This is the factual scenario this Court found exempt in Auburn under provisions of the former Sunshine Law, which the legislature saw fit to replace with the Open Meetings Act. It seems counterintuitive that the legislature could have intended to preserve the status quo in a scenario like this when it replaced the former Sunshine Law with the Open Meetings Act, which specifically addresses governmental bodies meeting in committees for the purpose of deliberating matters expected to receive further consideration at a later date.

Section 36-25A-2(6)a.3 could easily be read to apply the strictures of the Open Meetings Act to members of governmental bodies meeting in small informal groups for purposes of, in the words of Board member Charlotte Meadows, “avoiding] the public and the media.” And contrary to the concern expressed in the main opinion, not all informal discussions by two Board members would constitute a “meeting” under the subsection: the informal discussion must constitute a “deliberation,” as that term is defined in § 36-25A-2(l), by a “committee” or a “subcommittee.” The main opinion might correctly characterize such a situation as “inefficient or unusual.... However, it is our job to say what the law is, not to say what it should be.” DeKalb Cnty. LP Gas Co. v. Suburban Gas, Inc., 729 So.2d 270, 276 (Ala.1998). Contrary to the conclusion reached in the main opinion, however, this construction is not “unworkable or unjust.”

The operative language of § 36-25A-2(6)a.3 is susceptible to at least two reasonable interpretations; therefore, it is ambiguous, and we thus may look beyond its plain language to determine the intent of the legislature. Ex parte National W. Life Ins. Co., 899 So.2d 218, 224 (Ala.2004). As Clay C. Slagle notes, this Court has explained:

“The public meeting, .requirement is for the benefit of the public to ensure that it has the opportunity to become informed as to the affairs of its governmental bodies. It is intended that the whole deliberative process be open to public scrutiny, rather than that there be the mere formal announcement of decisions already made in private.”

Miglionico v. Birmingham News Co., 378 So.2d 677, 680 (Ala.1979) (emphasis added). Citing established caselaw, Slagle states that he is asking for nothing more than a “liberal construction” of the term “meeting” in § 36-25A-2(6)a.3 so that “the deliberative process” used by governmental bodies, such as the Board in this case, will be open to the public. I believe that such a construction of § 36-25A-2(6)a.3 is appropriate here and requires the holding that the November 16, 2009, meetings were “meetings” under that provision of the Open Meetings Act. I therefore ra-spectfully dissent from the portion of the main opinion holding to the contrary.

As to the main opinion’s discussion of the issue whether the attendance of four of the Board members at a local event on June 15, 2009, constitutes a meeting, I express no opinion. Suffice it to say that I find Slagle’s argument insufficient to warrant further analysis under the applicable rules of statutory construction. Therefore, as to that portion of the main opinion, I concur only in the result.

BOLIN, J., concurs.

MAIN, Justice

(dissenting).

The trial court in this case concluded that no “meeting” of the Montgomery County Board of Education (“the Board”), as that term is defined in the Open Meetings Act, Ala.Code 1975, § 36-25A-1 et seq. (“the Act”), occurred on June 15, 2009, or on November 16, 2009, and it dismissed this case. The main opinion finds that the language of the Act is clear and unambiguous; therefore, it concludes, a “plain reading” of the Act shows that neither the event on June 15 nor the “back-to-back meetings” on November 16 qualified as a “meeting” within the meaning of § 36-25A-2(6)a.3. 125 So.3d at 131. I must respectfully dissent.

When interpreting a statute, a court must first give effect to the intent of the legislature. BP Exploration & Oil, Inc. v. Hopkins, 678 So.2d 1052 (Ala.1996).

“ ‘The fundamental rule of statutory construction is that this Court is to ascertain and effectuate the legislative intent as expressed in the statute. League of Women Voters v. Renfro, 292 Ala. 128, 290 So.2d 167 (1974). In this ascertainment, we must look to the entire Act instead of isolated phrases or clauses; Opinion of the Justices, 264 Ala. 176, 85 So.2d 391 (1956).’
“Darks Dairy, Inc. v. Alabama Dairy Comm’n, 367 So.2d 1378, 1380 (Ala.1979) (emphasis added). To discern the legislative intent, the Court must first look to the language of the statute. If, giving the statutory language its plain and ordinary meaning, we conclude that the language is unambiguous, there is no room for judicial construction. Ex parte Waddail, 827 So.2d 789, 794 (Ala.2001). If a literal construction would produce an absurd and unjust result that is clearly inconsistent with the purpose and policy of the statute, such a construction is to be avoided. Ex parte Meeks, 682 So.2d 423 (Ala.1996).”

City of Bessemer v. McClain, 957 So.2d 1061, 1074-75 (Ala.2006). See also Bleier v. Wellington Sears Co., 757 So.2d 1163, 1168 (Ala.2000) (“In construing acts of the Legislature, we ascertain its intent from the language used in the statute itself, if possible, as well as from the reason and necessity for the act and the goals the Legislature sought to accomplish.”). In his brief and at oral argument, Clay C. Slagle urged this Court to construe the term “meeting” liberally, thus raising the issue of the ambiguity of the Act. Reading the Act as a whole, I find that the Act is ambiguous and that the literal construction applied by the main opinion would produce a result that is inconsistent with the purpose and policy of the Act.

The purpose of the Act is established by the legislature’s first statement in the Act. Section 36-25A-l(a) states:

“It is the policy of this state that the deliberative process of governmental bodies shall be open to the public during meetings as defined in Section 36-25A-2(6). Except for executive sessions permitted in Section 36-25A-7(a) or as otherwise expressly provided by other federal or state statutes, all meetings of a governmental body shall be open to the public and no meetings of a governmental body may be held without providing notice pursuant to the requirements of Section 36-25A-3. No executive sessions are required by the chapter to be held under any circumstances. Electronic communications shall not be utilized to circumvent any of the provisions of this chapter.”

I would construe the Act in light of the public policy as stated therein. Other states have used the same rationale in deciding whether the presence of two or more members of a governmental body at an event is considered a meeting. See, e.g., Spradlin v. City of Fulton, 982 S.W.2d 255, 258 (Mo.1998) (en banc) (“ ‘It is a basic rule of statutory construction that words should be given their plain and ordinary meaning whenever possible. Courts look elsewhere for interpretation only when the meaning is ambiguous or would lead to an illogical result defeating the purpose of the legislature.’ ” (quoting State ex rel. Maryland Heights Fire Prot. Dist v. Campbell, 736 S.W.2d 383, 387 (Mo.1987))); State ex rel. Newspapers Inc. v. Showers, 135 Wis.2d 77, 87, 398 N.W.2d 154, 159 (1987) (“An ambiguity can be created by the interaction of two statutes or by the interaction of the words and structure of the statute itself.... The statute is ambiguous because a reasonably well informed person could interpret ‘meeting’ to cover the convening of as few as two members of a governmental body to discuss issues before the body, a meeting of one-half or more of the body’s membership, a meeting of a quorum, or a meeting limited to a gathering where those present have the ability to exercise corporate power. Because the Open Meeting Law is ambiguous regarding which types of meetings are covered, this court must examine the legislative history, purpose, and broader context of the Open Meeting law to interpret the statute.”).

Because our legislature’s purpose in enacting the Act is to ensure that a public body’s deliberative process should be open to the public, I consider the event occurring both on June 15 and on November 16 to be “meetings” under the Act. Allowing such “meetings” to escape public scrutiny is contrary to the legislature’s intent.

I would hold that when members of a governmental body knowingly participate in a series of groups that, together, entail the participation of a quorum of the greater body and the effect of which is “intended to arrive at or influence a decision” of the greater body as to a matter expected to come before that body at a later date, the definition of “meeting” in § 36-25A-2(6) is satisfied. I would reverse the trial court’s judgment of dismissal and remand this case for the trial court to apply the evidence before it. Therefore, I must dissent.

MALONE, C.J., concurs.

On Application for Rehearing

PER CURIAM.

On rehearing, Clay C. Slagle moves this Court to “disqualify” Robert Bernard Harwood, Jr., from sitting as a Special Justice on this case on the ground, among others, that he is currently engaged in the private practice of law. Slagle bases this argument solely on the text of Art. VI, § 147(a), Ala. Const. 1901 (Off. Re-comp.), which provides: “No judge of any court of this state shall, during his continuance in office, engage in the practice of law or receive any remuneration for his judicial service except the salary and allowances authorized by law.” (Emphasis added.) In effect, Slagle is contending that, notwithstanding the provision in § 12-2-14, Ala.Code 1975, for the appointment of “member[s] of the bar” to sit as Special Justices in certain circumstances, the Constitution prevents such an appointee from engaging in the private practice of law. We reject Slagle’s contention.

In Johnson v. Board of Control of the Employees’ Retirement System of Alabama, 740 So.2d 999, 1011-12 (Ala.1999), this Court observed:

“Under the provisions of the Judicial Article, constraints are placed upon a judge’s activities only ‘during his continuance in office.’ § 6.08(a). In 1980, this Court adopted a ‘Commentary to the Canons of Judicial Ethics to make it clear that retired judges do not ‘continue in office’ under § 6.08. The Commentary reads:
‘Retired and supernumerary justices or judges are not continuing in office under § 6.08 of Amendment 328, Constitution of Alabama of 1901.’ ”

740 So.2d at 1011-12 (emphasis added).

The Johnson Court quoted from the Commentary to the section of Alabama’s Canons of Judicial Ethics concerning “Compliance with the Canons of Judicial Ethics.” Special Justice Harwood is a retired Associate Justice. The Commentary makes it clear that Special Justice Har-wood is not “continuing in office” for purposes of Art. VI, § 147(a); thus, the prohibition in § 147 on engaging in the practice of law does not apply to him.

Section D of the “Compliance” portion of Alabama’s Canons of Judicial Ethics, pertaining to “Retired and Supernumerary Judges,” reinforces the notion that practicing law is not an impediment to a retired judge or Justice serving as a Special Justice. In part, that section provides:

“(2) Retired and supernumerary justices or judges, who are serving part time on the Supreme Court or on either of the courts of appeals or on any circuit court or district court in the state, in an active duty status, shall be required to comply with all of these Canons, except Canon 5C(3), D, E, F, G and Canon 6C.
“(3) Retired and supernumerary justices and judges, who are serving full time at the request of the chief justice, on the Supreme Court or on either of the courts of appeals or on any circuit court or district court in the state, in an active duty status, shall be required to comply with all of these Canons.”

Canon 5F of the Canons of Judicial Ethics, from which retired or former Justices or judges serving part-time are exempted, states that “[a] judge should not practice law.” Thus, section D(2) of the “Compliance” portion of the Canons clearly provides that a retired judge or Justice who serves part-time on the Supreme Court is not required to comply with the prohibition on practicing law imposed on a full-time judge or Justice. In contrast, a retired judge who is serving on a full-time basis on the Supreme Court must comply with all the Canons, including the prohibition in Canon 5F concerning the practice of law. Special’Justice Harwood was appointed to serve as a Justice in this case and not on a full-time basis; consequently, he is not expected to refrain from the private practice of law.

Based on the foregoing, we conclude that the fact that Special Justice Harwood is engaged in the private practice of law does not disqualify him from sitting as a Special Justice in this case. Slagle’s motion is denied.

MOTION DENIED; APPLICATION OVERRULED.

MOORE, C.J., and STUART, PARKER, and MURDOCK, JJ., and HARWOOD, Special Justice, concur.

BOLIN, SHAW, MAIN, and BRYAN, JJ., concur in part and dissent in part.

WISE, J., recuses herself.

BOLIN, Justice

(concurring in part and dissenting in part).

I concur in denying Clay C. Slagle’s motion to “disqualify” Special Justice Bernard Harwood. I continue to agree with Justice Shaw’s well reasoned special writing issued on original submission; therefore, I dissent from the overruling of the application for rehearing.

SHAW, Justice

(concurring in part and dissenting in part).

I concur in denying Clay C. Slagle’s motion to “disqualify” Special Justice Har-wood; I adhere to my dissent in this matter issued on original submission, and I therefore dissent from the overruling of the application for rehearing.

MAIN, Justice

(concurring in part and dissenting in part).

I concur in denying the motion to disqualify Special Justice Harwood, but I dissent from overruling the application for rehearing.

BRYAN, Justice

(concurring in part and dissenting in part).

I was not yet sitting on this Court when this case was decided originally; therefore, I did not vote on this case on original submission. However, in reviewing the application for rehearing, I have considered both the rehearing materials and the materials submitted on original submission, including a video recording of oral argument. I concur in the holding of the opinion issued on application for rehearing that addresses the issue of the disqualification of Special Justice Harwood. However, I agree completely with Justice Shaw’s dissenting opinion on original submission, and I also agree with portions of Justice Main’s dissenting opinion on original submission. Therefore, I dissent from the overruling of the rehearing application.

As Justices Shaw and Main noted in their dissenting opinions, the language used by the legislature in the Alabama Open Meetings Act, § 36-25A-1 et seq., Ala.Code 1975 (“the Act”), is ambiguous with regard to its effect upon the deliberations of a governmental body, a committee, or a subcommittee. This Court must look to legislative intent to resolve the ambiguity. City of Bessemer v. McClain, 957 So.2d 1061, 1074-75 (Ala.2006). As Justice Main explained in his dissent on original submission, the Act was drafted to ensure public access to the deliberative processes of public bodies. The construction of the Act in the main opinion on original submission is inconsistent with that purpose. Moreover, it appears that the actions of the Montgomery County Board of Education in this case were an intentional attempt to circumvent the requirements of the Act. Therefore, I respectfully dissent from overruling the application for rehearing in this case.

HARWOOD, Special Justice

(statement of nonrecusal).

Following the recusal in this case of Associate Justice A. Kelli Wise, the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court requested that I, as a retired Justice of the Court, transfer from inactive status to active-duty status pro tempore for the special and restricted purpose of participating in this case as a Special Justice. I was to have no other duties or responsibilities or authority, and my “activation” would cease automatically upon the issuance of the certificate of judgment in the case. I accepted that assignment, as I have done on several occasions in the past, without there being any attendant monetary remuneration or other emolument of service to be provided.

Following my participation in the per curiam opinion of the Court issued June 15, 2012, in which I voted with the five-member majority, the appellant, Clay C. Slagle, filed an application for rehearing. In conjunction with that application, Mr. Slagle, through his attorney, the Honorable Mark G. Montiel, filed his “Motion for Disqualification and/or Recusal of Retired Justice Bernard Harwood from Participation in this Case on Application for Rehearing on Behalf of Plaintiff/Appellant Clay C. Slagle.” In that motion, Mr. Mon-tiel asserted three grounds for “the disqualification and/or recusal from this case of Retired Justice Bernard Harwood.” First, he cited and set out in full § 147, Art. VI, Constitution of Alabama of 1901 (formerly § 6.08 of Amendment No. 328 to the Alabama Constitution of 1901). That section states:

“Sec. 147.' Prohibited activities.
“(a) No judge of any court of this state shall, during his continuance in office, engage in the practice of law or receive any remuneration for his judicial service except the salary and allowances authorized by law.
“(b) No judge, except a judge of a probate court, shall seek or accept any nonjudicial elective office, or hold any other office of public trust, excepting service in the military forces of the state or federal governments.
“(c) The supreme court shall adopt rules of conduct and canons of ethics, not inconsistent with the provisions of this Constitution, for the judges of all courts of this State.”

Next, Mr. Montiel “contends that the participation of Retired Justice Harwood in this case without notice to the parties and in violation of the Alabama Constitution violates the due process requirements of state and federal constitution. See Caperton v. A.T. Massey Coal Co., Inc., 556 U.S. 868, 129 S.Ct. 2252 (2009).”

Lastly, Mr. Montiel avers that

“[r]etired Justice Harwood also has maintained an active law practice representing state agencies and bodies, governed by the Alabama Open Meetings Act, during his retirement. This private practice of law attorney representation suggests a possible bias or conflict regarding the issues presented in this case. The probability of actual bias on the part of the judge is too high to be constitutionally tolerable. See Caperton v. A.T. Massey Coal Co., Inc., 556 U.S. 868, 129 S.Ct. 2252.”

Mr. Montiel requests that I “be disqualified or recused from this case by [my] own order or that of the Court.” Addressing Mr. Montiel’s three grounds in reverse order, I submit the following:

Mr. Montiel’s belief that I have “maintained an active law practice representing state agencies and bodies, governed by the Alabama Open Meetings Act, during [my] retirement,” is simply a misapprehension on his part. The only state agency or body I have represented during my retirement is Shelton State Community College, based in my hometown of Tuscaloosa. I was at all times, commencing with my appointment as a Special Justice in this case, üp to the present, on retainer as counsel for Shelton State. The Alabama Open Meetings Act, codified as § 36-25A-1 et seq., Code of Alabama 1975, applies to “governmental bodies.” Shelton State is not a “governmental body” as that term is defined by the Act (see § 36 — 25A—2(4)); rather, it is an adjunct of the Alabama Department of Postsecondary Education, which, in turn, is simply a department of the Alabama Department of Education. The Alabama State Board of Education directs and controls Shelton State, and Shelton State has no independent or separate governing board, body, or commission. Rather, it is directly controlled by the Alabama Board of Education through that Board’s directives to the chancellor of the Alabama Department of Postsecondary Education.

I do not otherwise represent “state agencies and bodies, governed by the Alabama Open Meetings Act.”

With respect to the issue of my participation in this case as a Special Justice without advance notice having been given to parties to the appeal of my appointment, I do not perceive how such lack of advance notice “violates the due process requirements of state and federal constitution.” By long and well justified tradition, the identity of the regular Justice on the Court to whom an appeal is assigned for initial analysis and issuance of an opinion or other disposition and the identities of the Justices serving on the same division of the Court as that Justice, which Justices will be voting in the appeal, are not disclosed in advance to the parties to an appeal. That nondisclosure is designed to avoid any targeted attempts at outside influence during the deliberative process for the particular appeal. When a Special Justice has been appointed to cast the deciding vote in a case where the participating regular Justices are evenly divided, the logic behind nondisclosure in advance of the identity of the Special Justice is even more compelling. With respect to Mr. Montiel’s concluding citation in support of this ground for recusal, Caperton v. A.T. Massey Coal Co., Inc., 556 U.S. 868, 129 S.Ct. 2252, 173 L.Ed.2d 1208 (2009), I have carefully read that case, and I am unable to locate in its discussion of due-process considerations involved in determining whether a judge should recuse himself or herself, or be disqualified from sitting, any statements that would relate to the issue of advance notice of the appointment of a Special Justice in a particular case.

Finally, turning to the proscription stated in § 147(a), Constitution of Alabama of 1901, my focus is initially upon the issue whether I, as a retired Justice who is serving part-time on the Court at the request of the Chief Justice, for the sole purpose of participating in a particular case, thereby become a “judge of [that] court ... during his continuance in office,” in the context in which those terms are envisioned in § 147(a). In Johnson v. Board of Control of the Employees’ Retirement System of Alabama, 740 So.2d 999 (Ala.1999), the Court was called upon to decide whether a retired circuit judge, who designated on her oath of office as a retired judge that she was to be “inactive” and who immediately thereafter assumed appointed office as a federal district judge, was “holding two' offices of profit,” in contravention of § 280, Art. XVII, Constitution óf Alabama of 1901. The Court concluded that “it is clear that retired, inactive members of the judiciary who are governed by the Judicial Retirement System, are not holding an office, or exercising any power of the State, unless or until they return to active-duty status, either full-time or part-time.” 740 So.2d at 1012. The Court was called upon solely to answer the question whether a retired, inactive member of the judiciary who was governed by the Judicial Retirement System was holding an office of profit. The contrast the Court made with a retired member of the judiciary who returned to active-duty status, either full-time or part-time, was dictum, particularly to the extent that it implicitly opined as to the status of retired judges returning to active-duty status, without making a distinction between those who did so “full-time” and those who .did so only “part-time.”

The precise question now. confronting me has been directly answered by the Court, however, by its adoption of the Canons of Judicial Ethics, which became effective February 1, 1976, and, as to the “Compliance” section, were last amended in 1980. It is to be noted that subsection (c) of § 147 of the Constitution of Alabama of 1901 mandates that “[t]he supreme court shall adopt rules of conduct and canons of ethics, not inconsistent with the provisions of this Constitution, for judges of all courts of this State.” The Court has declared that “ ‘[t]he Canons are not merely guidelines for proper judicial conduct. It is well-settled that the Canons of Judicial Ethics have the force and effect of law.’ In re Sheffield, 465 So.2d 350, 355 (Ala.1984).” Johnson, 740 So.2d at 1011.

The section of the Canons entitled “Compliance With the Canons of Judicial Ethics” provides, in pertinent part, as follows:

“B. Judge Pro Tempore. A judge pro tempore is a person who is appointed to act temporarily as a judge.
“(1) While acting as such, a judge pro tempore is not required to comply with Canon 5C(3), D, E, F, and G, and Canon 6C.
“D. Retired and Supernumerary Judges.
“(1) Retired and supernumerary justices or judges, who are not serving on the Supreme Court or on either of the courts of appeals or on any circuit court or district court in the state, in an active duty status, shall not be required to comply with any of these Canons.
“(2) Retired and supernumerary justices or judges, who are serving part time on the Supreme Court or on either of the courts of appeals or on any circuit court or district court in the state, in an active duty status, shall be required to comply with all of these Canons, except Canon 5C(3), D, E, F, G and Canon 6C.
“(3) Retired and supernumerary justices and judges, who are serving full time at the request of the chief justice, on the Supreme Court or on either of the courts of appeals or on any circuit court or district court in the state, in an active duty status, shall be required to comply with all of these Canons.”

(Emphasis supplied.)

It is certain that the Alabama Supreme Court fully intended that the Canons it adopted, including D(2) of the Compliance section, were not inconsistent with the provisions of the Constitution, as mandated by subsection (c) § 147. That being so, it is further clear and certain that the Court concluded that there was a significant distinction between a retired Justice who was serving “part time on the Supreme Court ... in an active duty status,” and one who was “serving full time at the request of the chief justice, on the Supreme Court ... in an active duty status.” Whereas an activated Justice serving full-time would be required to comply with all the Canons, a retired Justice serving only part-time is specifically exempted from complying with Canon 5C(3), D, E, F, G, and Canon 6C. Canon 5F, with which a retired Justice serving part-time on the Supreme Court in an active duty status need not comply, reads as follows: “F. Practice of Law. A judge should not practice law.” Thus, it is inescapable that the Alabama Supreme Court has concluded that a retired Justice serving part-time on the Court may, consistent with the Canons of Judicial Ethics, practice law.

The Supreme Court of Connecticut reached a similar conclusion in Honulik v. Town of Greenwich, 293 Conn. 641, 980 A.2d 845 (2009), in which it addressed the issue “whether a retired justice, by virtue of performing limited judicial acts, necessarily is holding that office.” 293 Conn. at 654 n. 15, 980 A.2d at 854 n. 15. That Court reasoned:

“The decision of the Supreme Court of New Hampshire [in Claremont School District v. Governor, 142 N.H. 737, 712 A.2d 612 (1998),] provides direct support for the notion that temporary performance of duties associated with a judicial office does not equate with holding that office. Other state courts, in addressing claims pertaining to postretirement judicial activity that concededly are distinct from those at issue here and in Claremont School District, also have acknowledged the distinction between performance of judicial duties and status as judicial officeholder. See, e.g., State ex rel. Wilcox v. District Court, 208 Mont. 351, 358, 678 P.2d 209 (1984) (‘retired district judge called in [pursuant to provision allowing for temporary assignment of retired judges] does not become a second incumbent in that office, but simply exercises the powers of a district judge on a temporary basis’); Werlein v. Calvert, 460 S.W.2d 398, 401 (Tex.1970) (‘A retired judge assigned to active duty is authorized to exercise the powers of an office while serving on assignment. He does not by virtue of the assignment, however, hold an office....’) (reh. denied December 31, 1970); Nelson v. Miller, 25 Utah 2d 277, 288, 480 P.2d 467 (1971) (‘we see no constitutional conflict between mandatory retirement for age and legislative authorization for calling a judge back into service upon a “case-to-case” basis’).”

293 Conn. at 655-56, 980 A.2d at 855 (footnote omitted). At another point in its opinion, the Supreme Court of Connecticut observed:

“Finally, other courts’ jurisprudence as to what constitutes an ‘office’ is instructive. In United States v. Hartwell, 73 U.S. (6 Wall.) 385, 393, 18 L.Ed. 830 (1867), the United States Supreme Court, in interpreting a criminal statute proscribing embezzlement by certain officials, articulated a formula to apply in determining whether a particular position constitutes an ‘office.’ According to the Supreme Court, ‘[a]n office is a public station, or employment, conferred by the appointment of government. The term embraces the ideas of tenure, duration, emolument, and duties.’ Id. As one commentator has noted, the Hart-well formulation is descriptive rather than prescriptive, and contemplates a continuum. J. O’Connor, ‘The Emoluments Clause: An Anti-Federalist Intruder in a Federalist Constitution,’ 24 Hofstra L.Rev. 89, 109 (1995). Thus, ‘a position characterized by substantial tenure, duration, emoluments, and duties is the paradigmatic office; conversely, a position possessing none of these attributes would reside at the other end of the continuum as clearly a non-office.’ Id.”

293 Conn. at 657-58, 980 A.2d at 856 (footnotes omitted).

In serving on the Court for the limited purpose of participating in a particular case, I have no “tenure” as such; there is no extended duration of my service; and there are no emoluments.

I am not oblivious to the provisions of § 12-18-7(b), Ala.Code 1975, and pertinent parts of § 12-18-10(e), Ala.Code 1975, which read as follows:

Section 12-18-7(b): “The retiring justice or judge, upon being retired, shall take the oath of office as a retired justice or judge and thereupon become an extra or additional judge of the state. Thereafter, on the request of the Chief Justice, the presiding judge of one of the courts of appeals or the Governor, any such retired justice or judge may serve on the Supreme Court, on either of the courts of appeals or on any circuit court in the state. Such retired justice or judge, when serving on a court in the absence or disqualification of the regular justice or judge, as the case may be, shall have and exercise all the duties and functions of the regular justice or judge for whom he is substituting. When serving on a court for reasons other than the absence or disqualification of the regular justice or judge, the duties of a retired justice or judge shall be as prescribed by the Chief Justice when serving on the Supreme Court or by the presiding judge when serving on a court of appeals or by the presiding judge, when serving in a circuit court; provided, that nothing contained in this provision shall prevent the Chief Justice from assigning a justice or a judge to special temporary duty in other courts. A recital in the minutes of the court that a regular justice or judge is absent or disqualified and that a retired justice or judge is sitting in his place at the request of the Chief Justice, the presiding judge of one of the courts of appeals or the Governor shall be conclusive evidence of his authority to act.”
Section 12-18-10(e) (in pertinent part): “Every justice or judge who has retired pursuant to this article may, on the request of the Chief Justice, the presiding judge of a court of appeals or the Governor, be called to active duty status and, when serving with the Supreme Court or courts of appeals, shall perform such duties as may be prescribed by the Chief Justice or the presiding judge of the court of appeals with which he is serving and, when serving in a circuit court, shall perform such duties as may be prescribed by the presiding judge in the circuit....
“A retired justice or judge of one of the courts of appeals or circuit judge, while serving with the Supreme Court or one of the courts of appeals for reasons other than the absence or disqualification of a justice or judge, shall perform such duties as may be prescribed by the Chief Justice when serving with the Supreme Court, or as prescribed by the presiding judge of the court of appeals with which he may be serving.”

All I know concerning the circumstances underlying my appointment as a Special Justice to participate in this case is that, as stated at the conclusion of the opinion on original deliverance, “Wise, J., recuse[d] herself.” As Justice Parker made clear in his “Statement of Recusal” appended to the opinion on application for rehearing in City of Bessemer v. McClain, 957 So.2d 1061, 1085 (Ala.2006), a Justice may elect to recuse himself or herself without there being any basis for his or her disqualification. Regardless, I revert to, and am guided by in the final analysis, the deliberate determination by the Alabama Supreme Court in adopting the Canons of Judicial Ethics, “not inconsistent with the provisions of [the] Constitution,” that a retired Justice serving on that Court “part-time” may, “not inconsistent with [the] Constitution,” practice law.

In consideration of all the above, I, for my part, decline to recuse myself from participation in the vote on application for rehearing. Because the motion in question asks that I be “disqualified or recused from this case by [my] own order or that of the Court,” I will not presume to anticipate the Court’s own analysis and determination of this issue. 
      
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      . There was some discussion of the superintendent’s report before the Board voted upon it in the November 17 meeting, but the record is unclear as to the extent of that discussion.
     
      
      . The Hawaii Court of Appeals concluded:
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      . Indeed, such an interpretation would mean that no two members of a greater governmental body could ever discuss, even in a chance encounter, any issue expected to come before that greater body if those two members also just happen to be members of any three-member committee or subcommittee found anywhere within the organizational structure of the greater body, even a committee or subcommittee with no responsibility whatsoever for the subject the two members wish to discuss. Surely, if the legislature had intended such an unusual restriction, it would have said so much more clearly and directly than does § 36-25A-2(6)a.3. Moreover, the crippling effect of such a construction would auger heavily against it. See, e.g., Hispanic Educ. Comm. v. Houston Indep. Sch. Dist., 886 F.Supp. 606, 610 (1994) ("Limiting board members’ ability to discuss school district issues with one another outside of formal meetings would seriously impede the board’s ability to function.... This job involves meaningful reflection and extensive preparation for decisions, including discussions among members of the board. Requiring members of the board to consider only information obtained through public comment and staff recommendations presented in formal sessions would cripple the board’s ability to conduct business.”).
     
      
      . Referring to the November 16 meetings, Justice Shaw states in his special writing:
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      125 So.3d at 136 (Shaw, J., concurring in the result in part and dissenting in part). Contrary to the premise of this comment, we do not hold today that “the legislature ... intended to [or that it did] preserve the status quo” existing under the former Sunshine Law. To the contrary, we recognize today that the Act explicitly prohibits ‘‘committees” from meeting in private. Specifically, the legislature changed the "status quo" as to committees in three substantial respects.
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      Finally, the legislature went one step further and subjected to the requirements of the Act any gathering of a quorum of a committee, standing or special, at which the members present "deliberate” some matter they expect to later come before the committee of which they form a quorum. § 36-25A-2(6)a.3. Again, such meetings were not subject to the Sunshine Law.
     
      
      . Before the official recompilation of the Alabama Constitution, § 147 was found at § 6.08 of Amendment No. 328, Ala. Const. 1901.
     
      
      . The preliminary injunction issued in Auburn University applied to " ‘any meeting of any standing committee of the Auburn University Board of Trustees.' ” 867 So.2d at 296. In the final judgment appealed to this Court, the trial court found that members of the Board of Trustees had violated the Sunshine Law by " '[mjeeting in secret as a Board, and in Committees 867 So.2d at 297. The permanent injunction then entered by the trial court as part of its final judgment restrained members of the Board of Trustees from " '[mjeet-ing in groups of three or more [the standing committees consisted of five to six members], either as a Board or in Committee..'' 867 So.2d at 298. After noting these facts, this Court quoted the applicable provisions of the Sunshine Law, none of which were applicable per se to "committees” of a governmental entity. At the heart of its analysis, the Court then explained:
      "Although the various standing committees of the Board met to consider proposals and to make recommendations, the standing committees, with the exceptions of the Property and Facilities Committee and the Athletic Committee, could not and did not take any action on behalf of the Board. Thus, but for the two exceptions, none of the standing committees met 'as a deliberative body to set policy regarding the public matters with which the [Board] is entrusted’ [Advertiser Co. v.] Wallis, 493 So.2d [1365,] at 1369 [ (Ala.1986) ]. Moreover, because fewer than a quorum of the Board, eight trustees, cannot legally conduct the business of the Board, any meeting of one of the nonexceptional standing committees attended by fewer than eight trustees is not a meeting or session of a ‘group of individuals who sit as a deliberative body to set policy regarding the public matters with which the [Board] is entrusted,’ id., and is not, therefore, a meeting or session within the meaning of the Sunshine Law.”
      867 So.2d at 302.
     
      
      . Although discussed differently, no distinction is made in the Open Meetings Act between a "governmental body,” a "committee,” and a "subcommittee” and a "quorum” of such entities: a "quorum” of a "committee” is, practically speaking, the same as "the committee,” etc. The reference to a "quorum” in the subsection only illustrates that sufficient members of the entity are present for the entity to be constituted.
     
      
      . The main opinion criticizes the "restriction'' resulting from this construction as "unusual” and potentially as having a "crippling effect” on the ability of members of governmental bodies to, outside public view, engage in informal deliberations on official matters. The main opinion’s interpretation of § 36-25A-2(6)a.3, however, has the "unusual” result of enshrining into law the practice this Court found unaddressed by the Sunshine Law in Auburn University: members of governmental bodies can meet in small, one-time groups to deliberate issues that will come before the governmental body, so long as the issue will not again come before that particular group. If this Court’s interpretation of the Open Meetings Act, following the accepted principles of statutory construction of such laws as set out above, were to sweep too broadly, then it would be the legislature’s prerogative to narrow its language and thus its scope.
     
      
      . Furthermore, Montgomery County Board of Education member Charlotte Meadows acknowledged as much in a statement to the press that was admitted into evidence: "It was clear the only reason to form these subgroups was to avoid the media and the public.” She also testified: "I think we met in those groups in those types of settings so we could specifically avoid the media, and I think that’s wrong.” These statements confirm my opinion that the Board’s actions were an intentional attempt to circumvent public access to the deliberative processes of the Board.
     
      
      . Mr. Montiel graciously states in the introduction to his motion that "[wjhile undersigned counsel has the highest personal regard and respect for Retired Justice Har-wood, the Alabama Constitution necessitates this disqualification and/or recusal.” Reciprocally, I have the highest personal regard for Mr. Montiel, acknowledging his long and accomplished legal career encompassing not only extensive experience as a private practitioner, but also his service as a state circuit judge and on the Alabama Court of Criminal Appeals.