Turbo hybrid beta5 is still better

#83
by jack9ye - opened

Especially in ref image handling and instruction following, it even easily outperforms the original 20-step Ref model.

I agree; in my view, it’s currently the best and most realistic one.

b5 is just essentially a base model and turbo pairing and an utter failure for the real goal of the model line. It's just a custom hybrid base turbo pairing model. It can't be updated, doesn't need to be updated. Can't be carried forward for any other version. It's just a custom turbo and normalized fl2va merge that work well together. Only does base type generations and can't actually reference since it has no timestep to do video or audio. Comparing it to versions that actually achieve the model goal is apples to oranges, b5 relies on lora use to do anything non-base.

the real goal of the model line (judging from the name) is to make spicy stuff (among others). So how come every beta after 4 is completely incapable of making a man? Currently downloading 7, but 5 and 6 even more makes a complete mess of it. In whatever setup one uses the model, you'd think it needs to know how to do that.

Update on 7 (10Eros_Max_h3_8stepTURBO_beta7_fix1-native_int8_protected_edges_HQ ) it is much better. But it is doing the lustify thing of fusing two penii together when ever they come close. it is also too eager to invent them where they are not prompted. But at least no nsfw zombies anymore.

I don't know about wan 10eros, but i know LTX Eros quite well and it cannot be compared at all because it was built over the huge Sulphur dataset, which is not yet available for H3. So TenStrip did whatever magic he could with the available cummunity loras, which, for the moxt part, have questionable quality.

In any case, and with some puntual exceptions due to the base model and lora mix limits, there are very few things that Beta 6 and above all beta 7 cannot do in the NSFW space, either directly or with minimal reference help.

I use mostly T2V and so far I've not found any better AIO setup for H3 than ErosMax b7, (including any of the previous Max releases). Have in mind that ErosMax 6 and 7, being based on the FastH3 model instead of Vanilla H3, have certain specific quirks and requirements making those quite different to handle than regular H3 checkpoints, so you cannot handle them as "drop-in" replacements. Workflows, settings and prompts will need to be adapted if you come from Betas 4/5.

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