Very good ๐Ÿฅฐ but thinks too much ๐Ÿง 

#82
by auf1r2 - opened

Hey Qwenny team!

Thank you for sharing this amazing model to comunity! ๐Ÿฅฐ

I like this model's output but it thinks too much on my taste.

Example
Setup: llama.cpp + Q8_K_XL quant from Unsloth + 4 tools (web search, web fetch, hugging face, date_time)
Prompt: Does Qwen3.8 GGUF from Unsloth support MTP?

Results
All correct, it found 2 Qwen3.8 models from Unsloth on the Huggingface and answered correctly, but...
It used half hundred tool calls + about 85000 tokens out of 256000 context! While it was enough to stop on first 5 tool calls it made to reach this conclusion.

You have to lower the reasoning effort, which is xhigh by default. Configure via --chat-template-kwargs '{"reasoning_effort":"xhigh"}', where reasoning_effort can be "xhigh", "medium" or "low".

From official model card:

Qwen3.8 comes with official support for reasoning_effort, which can be used to adjust reasoning depth and control cost:

  • xhigh (default): for complex tasks demanding thorough analysis
  • medium: balancing accuracy and speed
  • low: efficient reasoning optimizing for speed and cost

Hey Qwenny team!

Thank you for sharing this amazing model to comunity! ๐Ÿฅฐ

I like this model's output but it thinks too much on my taste.

Example
Setup: llama.cpp + Q8_K_XL quant from Unsloth + 4 tools (web search, web fetch, hugging face, date_time)
Prompt: Does Qwen3.8 GGUF from Unsloth support MTP?

Results
All correct, it found 2 Qwen3.8 models from Unsloth on the Huggingface and answered correctly, but...
It used half hundred tool calls + about 85000 tokens out of 256000 context! While it was enough to stop on first 5 tool calls it made to reach this conclusion.

Here the mathematical reason why it happens: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B/discussions/76

I agree ... waaaay too much thinking, even at "low" settings. My local vLLM server (serving FP8 model) is timing out on simple tasks that were perfectly doable with Qwen 3.6. Unusable, unless you block thinking completely. Could there be a difference in how it is served? When testing with Ollama (also FP8 model), it felt like it does less thinking than with vLLM (I did not not do any strict comparison or systematic tests).

Same,I am using vllm and it thinks tooooo much for low effort.It took me almost an hour to wrote a Mario game.And most thinking is useless.Great model though.

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