Qwen3.8-27B-PARO-int5
Qwen3.8-27B with ParoQuant rotations on uniform asymmetric int5 weights, built for AMD RDNA4 (Radeon AI PRO R9700, gfx1201) and served through a W5A8 fp8-WMMA path in a patched vLLM. It is the fidelity-first sibling of Qwen3.8-27B-PARO-MXFP4: 4.2x lower KL divergence for +2.6 ms/step and 3 GB more on disk.
- Weights: uniform asymmetric int5, group size 128 along K, fp16 group scales and zero points
(5.25 bits/weight effective). Stored as
"int5-bitplane":qweight/qzeroshold the low four bits in the int4 AWQ packing, andqweight_hi/qzeros_hiare[K, N/32]int32 fifth-bit planes. - Rotations: the learned pairwise Givens rotations (
pairs,theta, 8 layers of 64 disjoint pairs per 128-channel group) and pre-invertedchannel_scalesfrom z-lab/Qwen3.8-27B-PARO (ParoQuant, ICLR'26), reused unchanged — rotations trained from scratch on a consumer-RAM calibration budget come out as identity past layer ~10. - How it was made: bf16 base weights x z-lab's channel scales, rotated with z-lab's rotations,
quantized one-shot to int5 g128 RTN, then a stage-2 fine-tune of the weights and group scales
under the int5 grid (rotations frozen). Inference identity:
y = ((x * channel_scales) R^T) dequant(Q)^T. - Config:
quantization_config.quant_method = "paroquant",bits = 5,format = "int5-bitplane",group_size = 128,krot = 8.lm_headand embeddings are bf16, as in the source checkpoints. Tokenizer, chat template and generation config are Qwen's.
Why five bits
The int4 kernel feeds the fp8 WMMA the signed code c - 8, which is exact in e4m3. With 5-bit codes,
c - 16 spans -16..15 and every integer in that range is also exact in e4m3 — so the GEMM algebra,
the zero-point fold, the per-token activation quant, the rotation-stream producers and the split-K /
A-tiled bands all carry over unchanged. Only weight staging differs: low nibbles keep the existing word
layout and the fifth bit rides in a byte-per-(slot, lane) plane in the same fragment order. int6 does
not have this property (codes to ±32 are not exact in e4m3) and would need an int8-WMMA rewrite.
At decode the 5-bit kernel costs 1.20-1.26x the 4-bit kernel at M<=8 — exactly the 1.235x byte ratio, so it is purely bandwidth-bound with no unpack penalty.
Loading
This is not loadable by stock transformers or stock vLLM: paroquant is a vLLM quantization plugin
that fuses the rotation with the activation quant and runs the int5 x fp8 WMMA GEMM. It ships in
radiance-vllm-mxfp4 (paroquant/, PAROQUANT.md),
which builds the kernels in-container on ROCm for gfx1201:
./setup-paroquant.sh
MODEL_DIR=Qwen3.8-27B-PARO-int5 MODE=prod SPEC=7 \
RADIANCE_PQ_I8=1 RADIANCE_PQ_PG=1 RADIANCE_PQ_ZPE=1 \
./paroquant/run_paroquant.sh
Those three flags select the configuration all the numbers below were measured with: int8 per-group
activations (I8 + PG) and the zero-point epilogue (ZPE). Other hardware would need the rotation
prologue and GEMM ported; the format itself is plain int5 plus the rotation tensors, so a
dequantize-and-rotate reference is a few lines.
Results (2 x R9700, TP=2, fp8 KV, DFlash2-FP8 drafter, SPEC=7)
KL is KL(bf16 || candidate) over wikitext, 96 x 500-char chunks, top-256, with the bf16 reference
served on the same stack — a reference collected on a different image charges quantization ~0.018
nats that belong to the serving stack's own numerics.
| int4 ParoQuant | PARO-MXFP4 | this checkpoint | |
|---|---|---|---|
| bits/weight | 4.25 | 4.25 | 5.25 |
| KL top-5 / top-256 | 0.0195 / 0.0285 | 0.0296 / 0.0419 | 0.0070 / 0.0100 |
| top-1 agreement | 91.5% | 90.3% | 95.21% |
| GSM8K 500q, greedy, served path | 97.4-98.0% | 97.4-97.6% | 97.40% |
| decode step @ctx 25 / 8k / 32k | 23.5 ms | 23.3 ms | 25.90 / 27.46 / 28.19 ms |
| prefill 2k / 8k / 32k / 64k (PP t/s) | 3808 / 3646 / 3495 / 3349 | 4770 / 4827 / 4495 / 4273 | 3941 / 3790 / 3616 / 3436 |
| KV cache tokens | 854k | 862k | 760k |
| on disk | 18 GB | 18 GB | 21 GB |
Where the fidelity comes from, cumulatively: fp16 group scales instead of e8m0 shared exponents (-32% KL), the fifth bit (0.0285 -> 0.0155), the stage-2 fine-tune (-> 0.0126), and int8 per-group activations instead of e4m3 per-token (-> 0.0097). The last one matters more than it looks: per-token int8 was the wrong granularity, not the wrong format, and per-group int8 lands below the weights-only RTN number.
Choosing between this and PARO-MXFP4
Task accuracy does not separate them — GSM8K is 97.4-97.8% for every variant, inside noise at 500 questions. The separation is distributional fidelity: at 0.0100 vs 0.0419 nats this checkpoint stays markedly closer to the bf16 base's full output distribution, which is what matters for logprob-sensitive work, draft-model acceptance, and long agentic chains where small per-token divergences compound. If you want maximum prefill throughput and KV headroom instead, take PARO-MXFP4.
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