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We attempted KV cache quantization to Q4 — and documented why it fails on the qwen2vl architecture.
KV Cache Quantization Attempt: type_k/type_v on qwen2vl Architecture
The Problem
The KV cache consumes significant memory bandwidth during autoregressive generation. On CPU-bound systems, memory bandwidth is the primary bottleneck. Quantizing the KV cache from FP16 to Q4 theoretically halves memory bandwidth requirements.
What We Built
We attempted to enable Q4_0, Q4_1, and Q8_0 quantization for both K and V cache states via the type_k and type_v parameters in llama.cpp v0.3.31.
The Research
type_k and type_v parameters accept GGML quantization type integers: 2 (Q4_0), 3 (Q4_1), 7 (Q8_0). Models must be loaded with these parameters set at initialization. We tested all three values with the qwen2vl architecture.
Results
| Cache config | Result |
|---|---|
| type_k=2, type_v=2 (Q4_0) | Failed to create llama_context |
| type_k=3, type_v=3 (Q4_1) | Failed to create llama_context |
| type_k=7, type_v=7 (Q8_0) | Failed to create llama_context |
All three quantization types failed. Error message: "Failed to create llama_context." This is a known limitation: the qwen2vl architecture in llama.cpp v0.3.31 does not support independent KV cache quantization. The GGUF is already Q4_K_M quantized and the KV cache cannot be further quantized without upstream support in llama.cpp.
Conclusion
KV cache quantization is not currently supported for the qwen2vl architecture in llama.cpp v0.3.31. This feature requires upstream support in the llama.cpp codebase.
Full citation: Alpasan, L.-K. (2026). KV Cache Quantization Attempt on qwen2vl Architecture. The Anticloud Research Corpus.
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