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@chester219: I am baking a cake today! I haven't baked in years!!!
@searchingformytruth: Show us a picture of the delicious cake later before you eat it, please!
@memesare2kewl: I definitely will!
@SHiNeyey: You aren't even the person who commented about baking a cake..
@Salieri: | Then I expect two photos of cakes! |
@chester219: I am baking a cake today! I haven't baked in years!!!
@Salieri: | Could you please show us after you're done? Even if its very amateur, I don't care, I'm no expert myself. I'm so excited for you!! |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@StonedBirdman: Profits since the 1980s in America have risen ~1000%, meanwhile the federal minimum wage has been stagnant.
@redvodkandpinkgin: That's definitely something to be mad about. When profits rise so much but the salaries barely keep up with inflation (if they do) then you know something's wrong
@jmartred2029: The systems works the way it was designed to.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Then maybe it wasn't such a good design
@Moose_a_Lini: It works great for the people who designed it.
@olly773: 100%. They’ll be loving this....billionaires are old school, this virus is going to create a bucketload of trillionaires.
@Salieri: | Bezos is 1/10th of the way there already. I bet he’ll be closing in on 200b by end of year. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@StonedBirdman: Profits since the 1980s in America have risen ~1000%, meanwhile the federal minimum wage has been stagnant.
@redvodkandpinkgin: That's definitely something to be mad about. When profits rise so much but the salaries barely keep up with inflation (if they do) then you know something's wrong
@jmartred2029: The systems works the way it was designed to.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Then maybe it wasn't such a good design
@Moose_a_Lini: It works great for the people who designed it.
@trollcitybandit: Why can't we design one?
@bertiebees: Because "we" doesn't include the people who already have the majority of wealth and power in society. They'd prefer to keep things that way.
@Salieri: | Exactly. It’s a system beyond repair. Wealth and power just makes more wealth and power. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@StonedBirdman: Profits since the 1980s in America have risen ~1000%, meanwhile the federal minimum wage has been stagnant.
@redvodkandpinkgin: That's definitely something to be mad about. When profits rise so much but the salaries barely keep up with inflation (if they do) then you know something's wrong
@jmartred2029: The systems works the way it was designed to.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Then maybe it wasn't such a good design
@Moose_a_Lini: It works great for the people who designed it.
@trollcitybandit: Why can't we design one?
@Moose_a_Lini: We can. But we're up against an incredibly effective propaganda machine, and a legal system designed to uphold the status quo. I spend a lot of my time fighting for it, but there are way more loses than wins.
@Salieri: | I spend a lot of my time fighting for it, but there are way more loses than wins.
It’s an uphill battle that the working class will never really “win”. The 1% of the 1% learned their lesson centuries ago, they won’t let a 1799 happen again. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@StonedBirdman: Profits since the 1980s in America have risen ~1000%, meanwhile the federal minimum wage has been stagnant.
@redvodkandpinkgin: That's definitely something to be mad about. When profits rise so much but the salaries barely keep up with inflation (if they do) then you know something's wrong
@jmartred2029: The systems works the way it was designed to.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Then maybe it wasn't such a good design
@Salieri: | Nobody but the rich claim its designed well. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@StonedBirdman: Profits since the 1980s in America have risen ~1000%, meanwhile the federal minimum wage has been stagnant.
@redvodkandpinkgin: That's definitely something to be mad about. When profits rise so much but the salaries barely keep up with inflation (if they do) then you know something's wrong
@jmartred2029: The systems works the way it was designed to.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Then maybe it wasn't such a good design
@Salieri: | Nobody said it was a good design, just that it was a design. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@StonedBirdman: Profits since the 1980s in America have risen ~1000%, meanwhile the federal minimum wage has been stagnant.
@kyxtant: Don't even look at minimum wage. Look at median household income. The increases in median household income has not kept up with inflation. The buying power for those right in the middle is diminishing year after year.
Minimum wage workers are fucked. That's a given and that needs to be fixed. But things are getting worse for so many more, too. We need to do something that helps everybody in the bottom 97%.
@dubalot: Additionally, If median income went up significantly, wages at the bottom would too, right? As an owner of a small business with clients squarely in the middle class i would love to offer jobs that could truly support someone. As it is now, we find it very hard to truly pay a liveable wage.
@Salieri: | No it's the other way around, you need to raise the minimum wage for the median to go up. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@StonedBirdman: Profits since the 1980s in America have risen ~1000%, meanwhile the federal minimum wage has been stagnant.
@kyxtant: Don't even look at minimum wage. Look at median household income. The increases in median household income has not kept up with inflation. The buying power for those right in the middle is diminishing year after year.
Minimum wage workers are fucked. That's a given and that needs to be fixed. But things are getting worse for so many more, too. We need to do something that helps everybody in the bottom 97%.
@freetraitor33: But you can’t tell that to half these people in the 97%. We can’t expand Medicaid because they don’t want anybody getting something for free when it would be them seeing the benefits. You can’t raise taxes on the wealthy because somehow they can’t comprehend how far they are from wealthy, and never will be close. They hate the ACA because their premiums went up but their old insurance would have dropped them the minute they got sick. They really have their pride tied up in the fact that they’re doing better than somebody and they’ll die trying to hang on to the illusion that they’re somewhere near the top. It’s sad as hell.
@TemporaryCamel1: They hate the ACA because their premiums went up
Why are you charging the middle class and poor instead of the rich?
@Salieri: | Because of conservatives. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@StonedBirdman: Profits since the 1980s in America have risen ~1000%, meanwhile the federal minimum wage has been stagnant.
@Salieri: | Hmmm, what happened in the early 80s that could have affected economic regulation?
Can’t think of a thing.
Certainly not the utterly discredited and broken economic policies invoked by a mediocre actor out of California, propped up as a shill by racists and moneyed industrialists. Certainly not that. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@Salieri: | Yup, and it’s why billionaireity, as a concept, should not exist. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@redvodkandpinkgin: Don't get it wrong, we are indeed making more profit for less work (at least in industry) but the higher ups are the ones that pocket all that surplus. Isn't it why we have so many billionaires today?
@tobefaaiiirrrr: "We shouldn't punish the rich because they know how to use money"
-my broke ass friend who works for hourly wage 9-5 and has no benefits/insurance
@Salieri: | "We shouldn't punish the slave drivers because they know how to use whips"
Actually, it's literally the same phrase. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@alecesne: Go read Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber. That was this century, and essentially we only do a few hours of actual work each day, the rest is busy work.
@DarkoGear92: Something tells me this doesn't apply to most factory/industrial/warehouse work...
@Salieri: | He doesn't think all work is bullshit just a lot of it. It's a really good book in it he essentially says that the most important work (the stuff you're talking about) is usually the worst paid, in essence the more useless your job is the more you get rewarded for it. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@alecesne: Go read Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber. That was this century, and essentially we only do a few hours of actual work each day, the rest is busy work.
@Salieri: | I’ve always believed this
I work about 5-6 hours a day for myself , it’s a physical job and you’d be special to be able to do 40 hours a week of actual working
Friends always joke I’m lazy because I’ll be home for 2 most days. It’s very rare I’m working at 4-5 unless I start late (although I have been the last two weeks as I’m unsure how much longer I’ll be able to work for)
What they don’t see is I don’t fanny about on my phone , or flirt with people by the water cooler for 2 hours
I get to work early & prepared to graft and I work through my dinner and take no breaks. I don’t smoke , or spend an hour at the cafe for breakfast and dinner.
I’ve worked in offices and retail environments where people do a solid hour spread over 8, I can’t think of a worse way to work.
I’d rather my day everyday. Every hour I don’t have to work is worth more to me than any amount of money.
Also I’ve realised with this pandemic every £1 saved is worth more than any £1 earned. That’s been my shortfall- I’ve always believed money is not that important as I can always go out the door and earn more but I’ll be treating it with more respect from now on.
I’ll be having 6-24 months operating costs for work and home saved ready for the next disaster. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@icallshenannigans: The trick is to tax the robots just like the human workers would have been.
@redvodkandpinkgin: It's not necessary, just tax the owner's worth more. It doesn't matter whether he's got ten thousand or twenty robots, the benefit is what's important
@Salieri: | That and in some applications it gets hard to determine how many robots there really are (it could be one really big, complicated robot) or how many workers it replaces (a brand new factory that was automated from day 1 and can't even be done by humans). |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@icallshenannigans: The trick is to tax the robots just like the human workers would have been.
@Salieri: | That's the basic solution to full automation. If a company wants to use human-like robots, then they get taxed hard and that money goes to social programs like universal basic income. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@LegibleToe762: Which was pretty much what Andrew Yang was running on.
@ghost_sanctum: Yea really wish he didn’t drop out
@Salieri: | His drop out was intelligent, well timed, and considerate of the other progressive candidates. He knew he couldn't win with his numbers, and he was all about the numbers. Warren on the other hand..... |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@IAmTheSysGen: It has nothing to do with inflation. It has to do with creating artificial demand for useless stuff (and also creating useless jobs) so that more people work so that the system can continue working and generating profit.
We really don't need to work nearly as much as we do.
@Salieri: | We really don't need to work nearly as much as we do
I agree and I implied that in the beginning of my otherwise lengthy comment. Most of the people I see complaining about having to work as much as they do expect to travel once a year, because holidaying somewhere local isn't good enough. They have subscriptions to multiple streaming services - I just have Apple Music. I don't even bother with Netflix or any of the others because TV just isn't that good to me and I wouldn't want to spend half a day off binge-watching any show. They order Uber Eats or just Uber themselves around especially because trains and buses aren't good enough either (I mean they do suck but not enough for me to drop $60 Ubering the same distance that a train could get me for $5). So many people drive huge freaki'n SUV's or 4WD's and none look like they'd be any more than a few years old. Last year I bought a 2013 Kia, a standard sized car which to me feels like luxury compared to my previous, much older vehicle since this one actually has Bluetooth and an air conditioner that actually cools! Why do people need to drive around in a mini house on wheels? I don't believe every single one of them is carting around 5 kids on the regular.
They buy useless collectibles too. I thought millennials were supposed to be anti random plastic shit - why do some have 200 Pop Vinyls? Why so many pets? What is the third cat giving them that the first two weren't? Buy buy buy, spend spend spend. No wonder they "have" to waste 40+ hours of their week working. Me I'd rather work less and live with less. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@TheBabiestOfBabyBoys: Worst thing is that for that to become a reality we just need a slight change in things, not need for a crazy revolution.
But some dickheads in Wall Street think a billion dollars is not enough.
@Salieri: | You might not think of it as a revolution but because those dickheads will feel threatened and they own the media, they will frame you as a revolutionary no matter what if this is your message and it becomes popular. That’s why Bernie decided to own it. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@TheBabiestOfBabyBoys: Worst thing is that for that to become a reality we just need a slight change in things, not need for a crazy revolution.
But some dickheads in Wall Street think a billion dollars is not enough.
@Salieri: | Those dickheads will never allow you to work less and enjoy a better life without a revolution |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@Shermingonmyface: Well productivity per capita has skyrocketed with the Advent of computers and the internet, but that productivity has not been reflected in wage growth. The additional wealth produced by each worker has been consolidated in the hands of the wealthy. There are a ton of really good labor economics studies on this. Without redistributive legislation, the additional productivity of the worker will always be hoarded by whoever owns the capital.
@Salieri: | This right here x100. Productivity is absolutely through the roof, but the wages of those doing the actual "producing" are more or less entirely stagnant. |
@nastytypewriter: This has been making me think a lot about books and articles from decades ago or even centuries ago where the authors thought that due to automation, by now we’d be working like 15 hours a week while robots did the rest, leaving us to enjoy the pleasures of life. I guess those people assumed we’d still make the same wages, or perhaps inflation wouldn’t be a thing. Whoops.
@Salieri: | This is...the appeal of communism. |
@PassThePepperP2: Yeah I’ve noticed this too. Although there’s stress and panic. People have also found time to fall back in love with their hobbies.
@IAmNotABotFromRussia: I’ve used the first days of this time to do everything I said I wanted to get done but never had time for - clean my room, go through papers, exercise, etc.. It has been nice.
@jimofwales: Yeah we’ve got a puppy at the moment. I did not like him. My girlfriend already worked from home so she spent all day juggling work and looking after him. Then I’d come home after 9hrs of a stressful management position plus commuting and I’d have to take over from her so wouldn’t get a single second break from 6:30am to 11pm.
I self isolated last Weds and it’s been awesome to spend time with my girlfriend and puppy. The work all still gets done too.
10/10 would coronavirus again.
If it only it wasn’t for this whole pesky economic depression thing...and the fact I’ll lose my job and might die.
@Salieri: | "10/10 would coronavirus again" LOL |
@PassThePepperP2: Yeah I’ve noticed this too. Although there’s stress and panic. People have also found time to fall back in love with their hobbies.
@IAmNotABotFromRussia: I’ve used the first days of this time to do everything I said I wanted to get done but never had time for - clean my room, go through papers, exercise, etc.. It has been nice.
@jimofwales: Yeah we’ve got a puppy at the moment. I did not like him. My girlfriend already worked from home so she spent all day juggling work and looking after him. Then I’d come home after 9hrs of a stressful management position plus commuting and I’d have to take over from her so wouldn’t get a single second break from 6:30am to 11pm.
I self isolated last Weds and it’s been awesome to spend time with my girlfriend and puppy. The work all still gets done too.
10/10 would coronavirus again.
If it only it wasn’t for this whole pesky economic depression thing...and the fact I’ll lose my job and might die.
@BabyinAjar: Had to check and see if you were my boyfriends alt account, we're in the same boat. Got a puppy early Jan, he bonded with me a lot more since I was home every day. Since the outbreak and my partner being able to WFH they've both become a lot happier and confident with each other, he says even though he still has to work he looks forward to knowing that he can spend his lunch break taking the dog to walk by the river.
Also being able to work in your pyjamas and have endless cups of tea and coffee without worrying about Jan from finance stealing your milk is a big plus.
@Dabraceisnice: Ugh. Milk stealers are the worst. I clearly didn't buy this tiny little thing of peppermint mocha creamer for you to pour half of it into one cup of coffee, Britney!
@Salieri: | Gosh. Dairy stealers ARE the worst. I didn't spend 7 minutes staring at cultured milks deciding if I was feeling like vanilla or strawberry banana yogurt this week for you to just "accidentally" eat my chobani, Rebecca! |
@PassThePepperP2: Yeah I’ve noticed this too. Although there’s stress and panic. People have also found time to fall back in love with their hobbies.
@IAmNotABotFromRussia: I’ve used the first days of this time to do everything I said I wanted to get done but never had time for - clean my room, go through papers, exercise, etc.. It has been nice.
@jimofwales: Yeah we’ve got a puppy at the moment. I did not like him. My girlfriend already worked from home so she spent all day juggling work and looking after him. Then I’d come home after 9hrs of a stressful management position plus commuting and I’d have to take over from her so wouldn’t get a single second break from 6:30am to 11pm.
I self isolated last Weds and it’s been awesome to spend time with my girlfriend and puppy. The work all still gets done too.
10/10 would coronavirus again.
If it only it wasn’t for this whole pesky economic depression thing...and the fact I’ll lose my job and might die.
@grandoz039:
> If it only it wasn’t for this whole pesky economic depression thing...
And the dead people. Or permanently damaged ones.
@Salieri: | Of course, it was a loose attempt to nod to it being awful, but keeping it casual. |
@PassThePepperP2: Yeah I’ve noticed this too. Although there’s stress and panic. People have also found time to fall back in love with their hobbies.
@Salieri: | Yeah I see that too and wonder why I haven’t been able to reconnect with my hobbies. Oh that’s right, I’m working from home ... /s |
@PassThePepperP2: Yeah I’ve noticed this too. Although there’s stress and panic. People have also found time to fall back in love with their hobbies.
@Salieri: | As a professor putting his classes online and with a kid at home with no childcare, I am not experiencing this at all. I have no time for anything. |
@endlesslyconflicted: So many businesses will die during this pandemic, but I’m guessing many will sprout after it’s all over.
I would bet on Etsy just blowing up with new sellers.
Edit- why are people so butthurt over me speculating that people will sell things they make online?
@LemonBomb: Etsy is such shit to its sellers now honestly. They’ve never been great but they’ve really gone downhill lately. If someone on there sells another place I usually message them to ask which platform they prefer my purchase on. No one has preferred Etsy so far!
@Salieri: | Etsy recently started putting advertisments everywhere. If you click through them, a fraction of every purchase you make over the next couple of weeks goes to etsy. |
@endlesslyconflicted: So many businesses will die during this pandemic, but I’m guessing many will sprout after it’s all over.
I would bet on Etsy just blowing up with new sellers.
Edit- why are people so butthurt over me speculating that people will sell things they make online?
@Salieri: | Going to be a lot of businesses that are "born"/"make-it" DURING this time, not just after it is over. I am in the legal cannabis industry in California, and we are deemed "essential personal" by our state. I think we are going to see some brands and delivery services experience huge growth during this lockdown and it will accelerate their companies further than would have been possible without "shelter in place" orders. |
@endlesslyconflicted: So many businesses will die during this pandemic, but I’m guessing many will sprout after it’s all over.
I would bet on Etsy just blowing up with new sellers.
Edit- why are people so butthurt over me speculating that people will sell things they make online?
@Salieri: | I have always wanted a battlestation. I have the led-infused computer. I have the liquid cooling with more LEDS. I have the RBG mechanical keyboard. I have the mouse that can sync rbg with my keyboard and the drivers set up.
I'm just... always moving on to the next project or working on stuff for work.
Today, I finally cable managed and set up my average battlestation.
I also ordered about 100 bucks in cable ties, velcro patches, 12x12 baskets, headphone mounts, cable conduits, and a gaming mat |
@FlusteredPigeon: Totally! I do feel we spend far too much of our time at work. If people only had to work 3 days a week, everyone would be a lot happier and well-rounded.
@nomadProgrammer: Healthier, happier, more compassion, more time to laugh dance, exercise. Alas we humans have been so manipulated by the rich and psychopaths
@42Ubiquitous: I think most people would agree with you, which makes it even more frustrating that it’s unlikely to change any time soon.
@Salieri: | Having an UBI would change this. If you guarantee people the very essential, roof, food, whatever job they get will be motivated by their passions or pursuits, not motivated by the fear of not having a roof or food. |
@rozetintsmyworld: So true. I played with my dogs outside and then painted watercolors with my 10 yr old niece today.
@Salieri: | I took my dog out to the park that's about 2 minutes out of the city and it was so nice. Sunshine, birds, and a dog running his heart out |
@droppedbytosayhello: In the 3 days that I have worked part-time, I notice that I do not need to rush. Monday I was walking the dog and rushing through it, as usual, when I remembered there was no place I had to rush off to. I still keep rushing through laundry, taking a shower, everything.
@Salieri: | I’m with you. I was rushing through eating today because I’m always on my way to something and eating is just an inconvenient necessity. I noticed I was powering through lunch and then I just... slowed down. Was nice. |
@graywolfxxx: The rat race in this country needs to die out along with the virus
@Salieri: | Not just the US but everywhere... this system of us selling our time to employers for pennies so they can pocket the fruits of OUR labour is so completely broken and punitive to those in the bottom rungs. |
@SweetBunny8: Unless you work in health care, unfortunately
@imlilboatbigwaves: Or retail.....
@tmsnbn: Yeppp. I work in one of those superstores (EU), and there has been an endless stream of people coming in, for a good week now; wearing gloves and masks and what not, YET bringing their kids, or older people wandering around, and the hoarders, everything you can imagine.
At this point I just accepted that I'll get sick eventually, if am not already without me knowing it.
Also, due to people buying up everything, some of us have to work extra hours. So, if I can be honest, I'm not even remotely happy, or relaxed.
@manifesuto: Thank you so much for your hard work. Grocery stores are an essential service and we all really need you right now! It's a shame about all the hoarding that is going on though. I too am working in an essential service and I know it's tough right now. :(
@Salieri: | Thank you, too.
Yeah, it's kinda insane how everything is right now. The thought that the borders are shut down, non-essential places closing down in early-afternoon, and the whole country being on high-alert, and the full lockdown glooming over us over here, it's just crazy. Or even just reading the news about Italy, or other places around the world. |
@SweetBunny8: Unless you work in health care, unfortunately
@imlilboatbigwaves: Or retail.....
@tmsnbn: Yeppp. I work in one of those superstores (EU), and there has been an endless stream of people coming in, for a good week now; wearing gloves and masks and what not, YET bringing their kids, or older people wandering around, and the hoarders, everything you can imagine.
At this point I just accepted that I'll get sick eventually, if am not already without me knowing it.
Also, due to people buying up everything, some of us have to work extra hours. So, if I can be honest, I'm not even remotely happy, or relaxed.
@Salieri: | Aye just know that there are also people that really appreciate what yall do. |
@SweetBunny8: Unless you work in health care, unfortunately
@imlilboatbigwaves: Or retail.....
@tmsnbn: Yeppp. I work in one of those superstores (EU), and there has been an endless stream of people coming in, for a good week now; wearing gloves and masks and what not, YET bringing their kids, or older people wandering around, and the hoarders, everything you can imagine.
At this point I just accepted that I'll get sick eventually, if am not already without me knowing it.
Also, due to people buying up everything, some of us have to work extra hours. So, if I can be honest, I'm not even remotely happy, or relaxed.
@Salieri: | This sucks. I just heard a rumor today that someone at guest services got it and their husband brought a doctor's note to confirm it. The story itself sounds a little fishy being just a rumor but it still scares me shitless because I still live with my senior parent. If my parents get sick and die because I work at this fucking store, I don't know what I will do. It does not seem worth it for how shitty the job is (though it would never be worth it no matter the job), and yet I still go. |
@SweetBunny8: Unless you work in health care, unfortunately
@Salieri: | Preach. |
@DenverCoderIX: I live right in the middle of my city's neuralgic centre. This afternoon I realize I could hear the birds again.
@Salieri: | That’s beautiful man. The little things that matter but become forgotten throughout their absence. |
@DenverCoderIX: I live right in the middle of my city's neuralgic centre. This afternoon I realize I could hear the birds again.
@Salieri: | I was in a conference call today at home and had my window open. The birds were singing their morning song. Had to mute because too many people kept asking about the bird noises. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@engineeredwatches: I'm still trying to wrap my head around it too. Do people think their caloric needs will triple because of quarantine? Milk, eggs, etc go bad relatively quickly!
@LemonBomb: The only change I’ve made is buying a little extra than I usually would so I can make 1 less trip to the store. And buying some yeast so I can make homemade bread. Probably unnecessary but just in case someone else wants to buy that loaf of store bread it’s there and I’ll have a nice homemade loaf. Doubt there is a rush on yeast.
@Lionheart78239: Same, except food for my pets. I just bought one extra thing for my frog which can be stored in the freezer. It’s just extra source of protein/calories along with the usual worms. I’m surprised people actually finished off the other food items(for reptiles/amphibians). The worms were left. If they wanted they could make a worm farm and they’ll have a stock for the rest of their lives. But they were left.
Otherwise, business as usual. I don’t understand the phenomenon of buying in bulk. Apparently it’s a mindset of “trying to control whatever little you can” but that’s a head trip. Isn’t buying in bulk just proof that you’ve lost self control and reasoning?
@Salieri: | There was a fake text spreading. I didn't know about it until my co worker who watches Fox told me.
He genuinely believed martial law was going to kick in any minute and people couldn't leave their house for any reason, including food. I think this is why people panic bought. A quick Google search shows the rumor to be debunked.
Fear feels real for people, regardless of a truthful basis. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@engineeredwatches: I'm still trying to wrap my head around it too. Do people think their caloric needs will triple because of quarantine? Milk, eggs, etc go bad relatively quickly!
@LemonBomb: The only change I’ve made is buying a little extra than I usually would so I can make 1 less trip to the store. And buying some yeast so I can make homemade bread. Probably unnecessary but just in case someone else wants to buy that loaf of store bread it’s there and I’ll have a nice homemade loaf. Doubt there is a rush on yeast.
@Salieri: | We got the last jar of yeast at our Wegmans today, but that's Wegmans. I'm sure the regular chain stores still have plenty. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@engineeredwatches: I'm still trying to wrap my head around it too. Do people think their caloric needs will triple because of quarantine? Milk, eggs, etc go bad relatively quickly!
@LemonBomb: The only change I’ve made is buying a little extra than I usually would so I can make 1 less trip to the store. And buying some yeast so I can make homemade bread. Probably unnecessary but just in case someone else wants to buy that loaf of store bread it’s there and I’ll have a nice homemade loaf. Doubt there is a rush on yeast.
@Salieri: | This is what everyone is doing and we are all doing it at the same time which normally doesn’t happen. That’s why shelves are bare. People need to calm down. They’ll restock soon. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@engineeredwatches: I'm still trying to wrap my head around it too. Do people think their caloric needs will triple because of quarantine? Milk, eggs, etc go bad relatively quickly!
@HolyBatTokes: Maybe.
My speculation about toilet paper is that a bunch of people who usually poop at work just realized they're going to have to do it at home for the foreseeable future. And multiply that by the number of people living in the house.
You could speculate something similar about food. Going from eating every meal away from home to every meal at home it could be easy to overestimate what you need.
The tragedy of the commons works at almost every scale.
@Salieri: | That is a good point. I was discussing this with a friend and maybe I am underestimating how many people eat out and are now forced to make most, if not all, of their meals at home now. I probably only eat out once a week. All my other meals I make myself. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@engineeredwatches: I'm still trying to wrap my head around it too. Do people think their caloric needs will triple because of quarantine? Milk, eggs, etc go bad relatively quickly!
@benson822175: You can freeze eggs FYI
@Salieri: | I never knew that was a thing. It seems you do have to crack it into a container and freeze it there or else it will burst in the shell. Seems like a lot of effort for the average person. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@Salieri: | The other day my mom was on a budget for breakfast to feed my siblings, and had made a list of things she could buy, basic things like eggs and bacon, that’s it. The shelves at every store were completely empty. It’s ridiculous. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@Salieri: | The only logic I can think is that they are trying to avoid a return trip to the store. If you have a family of 4 or more, its not uncommon to go to a grocery store and see someone with a huge cart full of foods and they go every week or something along those lines. Now people are trying to buy what they normally would for multiple trips rather than going constantly, because people don't know if they'll be able to go out next week or not.
7 cartons of eggs is way different than the people who are buying multiple palates of toilet paper. If anything, it shows that when people have no way to predict the near future or any real societal change it leads to people panicking. The instructions provided have been completely botched. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@Salieri: | It’s you versus every other shit head out there. It’s always been like this. America is the land of the willingly enslaved idiots who toil for an entire lifetime under the ideals of a “fair” capitalist economic system. The system has never been fair to those without cash or gold. This unbalanced system relies on a vast pool of dumb fucks who will willingly labor for decades at bottom dollar rates because, just like in the casino, they’re lead to believe that the big win is just around the corner. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@Salieri: | It's possible she's just trying to stock up so she doesn't have to go back to the store and further risk exposure/spread for a fpread for a few weeks. That's my plan at the moment; the next time I go to the store I'm going to try to buy enough stuff so that I won't have to break my self-isolation again for at least 2-3 weeks, hopefully longer.
For example if you have a family of four and each person eats, on average, one egg per day, then 84 eggs is only a three week supply. |
@Heddlo2020: The main thing coronavirus has taught me is, how disgustingly selfish, we as a society have become.
If this was a test to see how we'd fair in a nuclear holocaust, we have failed miserably.
People bulk buying toilet paper? Why?? There isnt a shortage. And it's never been said there will be.
Having fights because someone has a packet you think you need? Grow up you vile person.
Now its tins. Doesnt matter the contents either. Someone is probably sitting there with 200 tins of peach slices.
For no other reason than they think they MIGHT need some in a few weeks. When was the last time you ate some??
All the local supermarket companies have said there is no need to panic buy, that their supplies are not running low or even that there will be a problem with supply.
Why then, does it look like a plague of locusts have swarmed through every aisle of every shop?
Because people are selfish.
Now, even though the Prime minister has told everyone to not go to pubs, clubs and restaurants, I see exactly that.
Lots genuinely believe it isnt going to affect them, and will be the first to cry when it does.
I was a cynic initially, but this whole scenario is so weird and surreal, I can't risk being cynical because of my children.
@ilenka: Today I went to the grocery store and this lady was piling up ~7 cartons of eggs in her basket. It made me really sad. I don't need eggs right now, I just got a carton yesterday, but this was at 9am. How many people will be able to go shopping after 5 because their jobs won't allow for remote work? How many of them need eggs, a staple food and a cheap source of protein? Will they still be able to buy them or will they run out well before then?
How long will it take this lady to eat 72 84 eggs? Will she do it before they go bad or is this going to be wasted food for no reason?
I actually gave her a thumbs down and walked away.
@Salieri: | How do you know she wasn’t going to make a bunch of food for the needy? Or kids now out of school and their free food. Or shopping for a bunch of the elderly folks in her neighborhood to protect them. Eggs don’t keep forever. That’s more than she could use. Your quick judgment is part of the problem. |
@zublits: You're just realizing this now? I've known this my whole life, no I've felt it in my soul. It makes integrating into the usual work-life incredibly difficult for me.
People around me are asking for overtime and I can barely string together the will for 40hrs.
@Salieri: | Yeah, overtime has never in my life been worth the money, and whenever I decline working late I just think on my drive home "Man I'd honestly pay to NOT work late if overtime was mandatory"
I always clock out basically the second my 8 hours are up and I've had people point it out or say if I clock out a minute past normal "Ahh Seacrux, heading out late today huh? haha what are you in such a hurry for?" I'm in a hurry to go back to fucking reality instead of slowly having the life sucked out of me any longer than possible. |
@Savage9645: I feel the opposite. This whole thing has made me realize how beneficial going to work every day is for my mental well being.
@Salieri: | Agreed. I've been working remotely the past week and it's really made me realise just how much I need all the small social interactions that I usually get in the office |
@Savage9645: I feel the opposite. This whole thing has made me realize how beneficial going to work every day is for my mental well being.
@Salieri: | Same. All I’ve been thinking is that I’m gonna feel useless for at least a month. Video games are fun but when all you can do is sit at home and earn nothing it stresses me out. |
@FabCitty: Eh, I think we disproportionately see the people who are online all the time being happy. Most of the people I have talked to who arent the type to browse reddit or be an "inside" kind of person are pretty miserable atm.
@HalcyonH66: I'd agree with that. I used to be a heavy gamer and basically lived online. Now I'm hyper social. I literally live to see people basically. My ideal week has 4-5 social occasions (as an example last week before social isolation in the UK I went on 2 dates and saw friends twice). I'm absolutely fucking miserable at the moment. My gym routine has been fucked, the swimming pool is closed, I can't see my friends enough, people don't want to go on dates + everything is basically closed anyway. I've been trying to get back into shit like gaming that I used to do all the time, but that's just not me anymore.
Similarly my friends are all pretty annoyed and want to get out, it's just coming up on a week for us this Sunday.
@Salieri: | Man that sucks. Here in Canada we can at least meet in small groups. I hear you guys have it pretty bad eh? |
@FabCitty: Eh, I think we disproportionately see the people who are online all the time being happy. Most of the people I have talked to who arent the type to browse reddit or be an "inside" kind of person are pretty miserable atm.
@HalcyonH66: I'd agree with that. I used to be a heavy gamer and basically lived online. Now I'm hyper social. I literally live to see people basically. My ideal week has 4-5 social occasions (as an example last week before social isolation in the UK I went on 2 dates and saw friends twice). I'm absolutely fucking miserable at the moment. My gym routine has been fucked, the swimming pool is closed, I can't see my friends enough, people don't want to go on dates + everything is basically closed anyway. I've been trying to get back into shit like gaming that I used to do all the time, but that's just not me anymore.
Similarly my friends are all pretty annoyed and want to get out, it's just coming up on a week for us this Sunday.
@Salieri: | video conferencing friend hangouts? Definitely not the same, but it might help a bit! |
@FabCitty: Eh, I think we disproportionately see the people who are online all the time being happy. Most of the people I have talked to who arent the type to browse reddit or be an "inside" kind of person are pretty miserable atm.
@HalcyonH66: I'd agree with that. I used to be a heavy gamer and basically lived online. Now I'm hyper social. I literally live to see people basically. My ideal week has 4-5 social occasions (as an example last week before social isolation in the UK I went on 2 dates and saw friends twice). I'm absolutely fucking miserable at the moment. My gym routine has been fucked, the swimming pool is closed, I can't see my friends enough, people don't want to go on dates + everything is basically closed anyway. I've been trying to get back into shit like gaming that I used to do all the time, but that's just not me anymore.
Similarly my friends are all pretty annoyed and want to get out, it's just coming up on a week for us this Sunday.
@Salieri: | I think the post was more about working hours, not necessarily socializing hours. |
@SociallyAwkwardHi: That’s amazing, great message! Fits with the golden rule, treat others as you want to be treated.
@impulsiveminimalist: Definitely! We live in a hyper critical world and I always strive to include anyone I can because I definitely know what it's like to be lonely. It has really helped me build some decent friends over the years. My best friend just moved to a foreign country so it is definitely refreshing to have someone besides my wife to hang with outside of work and to be able to talk freely with. I love my wife but also think it's important to have more people to hang with than just her.( Probably something I carried with me from my social work degree that I never got a job with)
@SassyPikachuu: I feel like the people you work with are just a little bit jelly of Mr New and In Shape guy.
People often judge others and try to bring them down when they see people excelling in order to make themselves feel better.
You keep doing you, keep being friends with this guy and I bet you are helping him as much as he is helping you. It’s really easy to fall out of healthy habits when surrounded by an unhealthy work environment and judgmental people that don’t share the same goals you share.
You are helping this guy stay on track by being his friend and supporting him!
@impulsiveminimalist: Yeah. I've never seen this kind of reaction so I'm not sure if it's just social distancing making people go crazy or what! They are definitely jelly!
@Salieri: | Maybe it will help to know that manipulative people hunt in packs. This is how they validate their own shitty behay and thoughts. It sounds like the whole office ganged up on this guy because they felt their own false aire of superiority be threatened by someone who is clearly the better individual. |
@SociallyAwkwardHi: That’s amazing, great message! Fits with the golden rule, treat others as you want to be treated.
@impulsiveminimalist: Definitely! We live in a hyper critical world and I always strive to include anyone I can because I definitely know what it's like to be lonely. It has really helped me build some decent friends over the years. My best friend just moved to a foreign country so it is definitely refreshing to have someone besides my wife to hang with outside of work and to be able to talk freely with. I love my wife but also think it's important to have more people to hang with than just her.( Probably something I carried with me from my social work degree that I never got a job with)
@Squirt_Bukkake: I mean, having a social work degree probably helps a lot. Still, many people do not have these skills. I still encourage all, to listen and to "defend" the weird and lonely at work. I had this guy at work, who was really really weird. We soon named him Taxi Driver. He then put more effort in his tries to socialize, and he failed even harder. I was always neutral towards him, but as he literally shaved his head himself with an undercut, almost like the "real" Taxi Driver, i hit the breaks. He definitely was short before killing himself. He left the company eventually. I took him aside, taught him some social "rules" and he broke into tears... he never had a conversation with anyone, that was longer than one minute - for six months... (for me heaven, for him hell...)
@Salieri: | These sound like toxic work environments. I do hope that you are sharpening your resumes and planning exit strategies. A bit of gossiping is normal, but the really negative stuff should be reserved for the casual meetings at the pub off hours. |
@SociallyAwkwardHi: That’s amazing, great message! Fits with the golden rule, treat others as you want to be treated.
@impulsiveminimalist: Definitely! We live in a hyper critical world and I always strive to include anyone I can because I definitely know what it's like to be lonely. It has really helped me build some decent friends over the years. My best friend just moved to a foreign country so it is definitely refreshing to have someone besides my wife to hang with outside of work and to be able to talk freely with. I love my wife but also think it's important to have more people to hang with than just her.( Probably something I carried with me from my social work degree that I never got a job with)
@Salieri: | I decided to hang with the "weird girl" from work back in '07. She's the kindest, smartest, most helpful person. She helps clean up when people's homes have been ravaged by floods, takes missionary trips to spread the gospel, and gives wads of money to charity. |
@SociallyAwkwardHi: That’s amazing, great message! Fits with the golden rule, treat others as you want to be treated.
@42Pockets: The greatest lesson my father ever taught me was, "never judge someone based on what another said." I have made many beautiful friendships because of this advice.
Thanks dad :-)
@Salieri: | So have I.
A friend of mine told me he knew of my upcoming roommate and to keep my wits about him, for he stole stuff from my friend when they were working together.
I chose to ignore that advise and to know him for real and by myself. He ended being a fantastic human being and becoming one of my best friends (and damn reliable to boot!).
I agree with this thread |
@yung-n-nasty: The thing I never understood was how average people make fun of other people who are striving to be better than average.
@mattjonz: Google “inferiority complex” and then you’ll understand!
@Salieri: | Well, an inferiority complex along with poor emotional intelligence. I definitely have an inferiority complex myself and hate it when people do this. Either the people that make these kinds of jokes lack self awareness and an ability to look inwards at themselves, or they do possess those traits but don’t know how to deal with it so they try to bring people down to the level that they perceive themselves at to feel better, and as a result, end up actually putting themselves at that lower level. |
@yung-n-nasty: The thing I never understood was how average people make fun of other people who are striving to be better than average.
@mattjonz: Google “inferiority complex” and then you’ll understand!
@Salieri: | “If I make someone else feel bad for trying, I won’t feel as bad about myself for not trying.” |
@yung-n-nasty: The thing I never understood was how average people make fun of other people who are striving to be better than average.
@impulsiveminimalist: Yeah. It's so dumb. It's like how people who try be vegetarian or vegan for health reason are the butt of so many jokes. My guess it's because others have their insecurities poked when someone comes along living life to its fullest.
@yung-n-nasty: That’s the truth. Too many people let their insecurities define them and tell them they can’t change for the better with hard work. When they see someone coming along putting in that work to achieve a lofty goal, they knock it as unreasonable or unrealistic to attain.
@impulsiveminimalist: Exactly. It's easier to knock people down then to strive to be better. Or so some people think!
@AbyssalKraken: When you mentioned he slept on his car I thought of that. People made fun of him, but he’s just vibin’
He sounds like a pretty cool guy honestly.
@Salieri: | Definitely Vibin! |
@yung-n-nasty: The thing I never understood was how average people make fun of other people who are striving to be better than average.
@impulsiveminimalist: Yeah. It's so dumb. It's like how people who try be vegetarian or vegan for health reason are the butt of so many jokes. My guess it's because others have their insecurities poked when someone comes along living life to its fullest.
@yung-n-nasty: That’s the truth. Too many people let their insecurities define them and tell them they can’t change for the better with hard work. When they see someone coming along putting in that work to achieve a lofty goal, they knock it as unreasonable or unrealistic to attain.
@impulsiveminimalist: Exactly. It's easier to knock people down then to strive to be better. Or so some people think!
@AbyssalKraken: When you mentioned he slept on his car I thought of that. People made fun of him, but he’s just vibin’
He sounds like a pretty cool guy honestly.
@Salieri: | Damn normies |
@yung-n-nasty: The thing I never understood was how average people make fun of other people who are striving to be better than average.
@impulsiveminimalist: Yeah. It's so dumb. It's like how people who try be vegetarian or vegan for health reason are the butt of so many jokes. My guess it's because others have their insecurities poked when someone comes along living life to its fullest.
@DeusExMagikarpa: The other comments are trying to justify making fun veg people, smh
@Salieri: | Haven't seen those comments yet but still have about a hundred to go through . I definitely don't mind poking fun at friends from time to time and I do have some vegetarian friends. It's one think to joke around as friends and definitely a whole other realm to constantly make fun of them. If somebody teases me about my. Quinoa burgers I am not offended. If they rough it up every day I may change my tune. |
@yung-n-nasty: The thing I never understood was how average people make fun of other people who are striving to be better than average.
@Salieri: | This hits the feel so much |
@Just_Another_Scott: Super nice story!
Just want to point out that a sub 10 minute mile is not bad, that's above average. The average person runs a mile between 10 and 15 mins.
I run about a 13:40 mile with a 5K time of 43 mins. The average for my age group is 35 mins for comparison.
@impulsiveminimalist: Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement. I need to stop being so harsh on myself. I have a problem comparing myself to my younger self when I could run sub 7 minutes miles( I think my too speed was 6 minutes and 20 seconds) . I have a problem where I live in my nostalgia and don't want to put the effort to get back into shape. Plus needing to shed 60lbs of fat seems like such a daunting task I keep on giving up.
@LaDoucheDeLaFromage: I couldn’t go out today and run a mile under 10 mins. Or 3 miles in one day. I am somewhat fit, but running my has never been a strong point. You keep that up and you should see serious results :0)
@Salieri: | Thanks for the kind comment! I have about 60 lbs of fat I need to lose but he thinks I should be able to do have the gone and be ready to run a marathon by January. I don't have faith in myself yet but we will see. |
@Just_Another_Scott: Super nice story!
Just want to point out that a sub 10 minute mile is not bad, that's above average. The average person runs a mile between 10 and 15 mins.
I run about a 13:40 mile with a 5K time of 43 mins. The average for my age group is 35 mins for comparison.
@impulsiveminimalist: Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement. I need to stop being so harsh on myself. I have a problem comparing myself to my younger self when I could run sub 7 minutes miles( I think my too speed was 6 minutes and 20 seconds) . I have a problem where I live in my nostalgia and don't want to put the effort to get back into shape. Plus needing to shed 60lbs of fat seems like such a daunting task I keep on giving up.
@MisterKrayzie: A 10 minute mile for someone claiming to be obese is ridiculously good, and I'm not just saying that to lift your spirits or anything.
When I was in HS, in ok shape, my mile time was like a lazy ass 11 or 12 minutes.
Now that I'm in much better shape (10+ years later), went to the gym consistently this year till they shut down, I managed to bring it to around 8 mins, 7 something if I really pushed myself. But it kicks my ass at the end of it, and it's only a mile.
So you're doing really really well man.
@Salieri: | Thanks again! I currently am at 250lbs and my doctor says I should be shooting. For 190. Hopefully with a good friend I will now be able to finally push hard! |
@Just_Another_Scott: Super nice story!
Just want to point out that a sub 10 minute mile is not bad, that's above average. The average person runs a mile between 10 and 15 mins.
I run about a 13:40 mile with a 5K time of 43 mins. The average for my age group is 35 mins for comparison.
@impulsiveminimalist: Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement. I need to stop being so harsh on myself. I have a problem comparing myself to my younger self when I could run sub 7 minutes miles( I think my too speed was 6 minutes and 20 seconds) . I have a problem where I live in my nostalgia and don't want to put the effort to get back into shape. Plus needing to shed 60lbs of fat seems like such a daunting task I keep on giving up.
@Salieri: | Hey I just wanted to offer more support and say you can do this! Last year I was way overweight and I wound up losing double what you are trying to lose. If you put your mind to it, you can definitely accomplish it. I wish you the best of luck and hope you accomplish all your goals! |
@boopies33: This is wonderful! My motto is always to judge a person by MY interactions with them, not hearsay and idle gossip around the office, school, etc. Sounds like you made a great friend who lifts you up and helps you reach your goals!
@Salieri: | Exactly. I have learned to detest it and also to call people out on it when they are being horrible. I am fairly well liked across my department so I hope my comments help reduce some of this horrible stuff. |
@Funknoodlz: Breaking the stigma of the quiet guy one exercise guru at a time. Nice.
@impulsiveminimalist: I'm not sure I know what stigma you are referring to. I'm probably just brain dead so if you don't clarify it now I will hopefully click when I wake up tomorrow... But if you have time to clarify that'd be super cool as well!
@sneakyminxx: Stigma that most quiet guys are somehow big weirdos and nerdy, maybe have weird fetishes or have no real goal in life is what I’m assuming?
@impulsiveminimalist: That makes sense. He is not super quiet though.
@rockidr4: I was kinda identifying with this guy. I'm really goofy and outgoing in real life, and I know for sure I stick out like a sore thumb to a lot of my coworkers. I feel life sometimes people just don't know how to deal with someone having a personality and passions that they feel comfortable expressing at work. So... Yeah. I assumed the guy in your story was like me. Goofy and outgoing, and perplexing to people used to an office environment
@Salieri: | I have had exactly the same issues in the past. I am weird and outgoing and they always thought I was kind of a spaceman and treated me as such. I identify a lot with this guy. |
@Funknoodlz: Breaking the stigma of the quiet guy one exercise guru at a time. Nice.
@impulsiveminimalist: I'm not sure I know what stigma you are referring to. I'm probably just brain dead so if you don't clarify it now I will hopefully click when I wake up tomorrow... But if you have time to clarify that'd be super cool as well!
@sneakyminxx: Stigma that most quiet guys are somehow big weirdos and nerdy, maybe have weird fetishes or have no real goal in life is what I’m assuming?
@atehate: People always like to make judgements. Is this a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' type of thing or is being quiet inherently disadvantageous?
@FrankFeTched: Being quiet is certainly not inherently disadvantageous. Maybe being silent, but being quiet most all the time and only interjection when you have something important to say, or relevant, is probably advantageous. It's just a balance I suppose.
I'd rather be too quiet than too loud anyway. Weird > Annoying any day lol
@Salieri: | I know a lot of the reason I'm quiet is because I have said stupid things impulsively before and I am trying to avoid that from happening. I also learn more from letting other people talk. I am certainly starting to see the disadvantages of it though as I get older. |
@Funknoodlz: Breaking the stigma of the quiet guy one exercise guru at a time. Nice.
@impulsiveminimalist: I'm not sure I know what stigma you are referring to. I'm probably just brain dead so if you don't clarify it now I will hopefully click when I wake up tomorrow... But if you have time to clarify that'd be super cool as well!
@sneakyminxx: Stigma that most quiet guys are somehow big weirdos and nerdy, maybe have weird fetishes or have no real goal in life is what I’m assuming?
@Salieri: | TIL I'm a stereotype |
@bbygodzilla: That's awesome! Great for you, you've made a new friend, made his work life easier, AND you're getting into shape!
I'm sure he put so much effort into your workout plan because you put effort into getting to know him. You both sound like really great people
@impulsiveminimalist: Thanks for the comment! I definitely hope that he appreciates me as much as I appreciate him... Because I appreciate him a lot!
@bbygodzilla: Tell him that! As my mom says, kindness doesn't cost us anything but it can change a person's day/life.
@impulsiveminimalist: I have told him a few time. Definitely don't want to be to weird but I'll keep. It in mind to mention it more!
@CUNextTime2019: Maybe instead of that bring lunch in for him.
"Ill grab lunch for the next week"
This could also show that your following a good diet aswell as an appreciation for the training.
@Salieri: | Definitely something to consider! Better figure out what he likes! |
@bbygodzilla: That's awesome! Great for you, you've made a new friend, made his work life easier, AND you're getting into shape!
I'm sure he put so much effort into your workout plan because you put effort into getting to know him. You both sound like really great people
@impulsiveminimalist: Thanks for the comment! I definitely hope that he appreciates me as much as I appreciate him... Because I appreciate him a lot!
@Salieri: | I don’t know if this would be weird, but have you considered writing him a note to thank him for the effort of putting together the workout plan? |
@Ambitiousfoxboi: Why does he remind me of Chris from Parks and Rec
@Salieri: | Chip Traeger you son of a gun |
@Ambitiousfoxboi: Why does he remind me of Chris from Parks and Rec
@impulsiveminimalist: Maybe the happiness of Chris in parks and recreation and the body from jurassic world. Lol
@Salieri: | You litrally are confusing Chris Pratt for Rob Lowe |
@kwonfused: You both sound like great human beings. Good on ya bro.
@impulsiveminimalist: Thanks! I definitely have made my fair share of mistakes in treating people but trying to learn to love and care for people around me. Building the world I want one conversation at a time.
@kwonfused: I feel you. When I was in high school and immature as hell, I used to crack jokes at the expense of others.
As cliche as it sounds, I’ve learned to treat people as how I’d like to be treated, and if you’re good to me I’ll one-up you and treat you even better.
@impulsiveminimalist: Now if everyone got on board with this what a world we would live in!
@Salieri: | Yourself and the gym trainer are valuable additions to our world! |
@RentAscout: I can sorta relate. We have this guy who just can't avoid making simple mistakes every once and while. While seemingly forgetful, he can remember baseball facts like the Red Rox lineup in 1929. He's shit on by nearly everyone at work but always happy and smiling while co-workers avoid talking with him.
Well, one of those coworkers ran into him in Las Vegas randomly at a party (opening of casino or something). This supposedly awkward oddball guy happened to be the life of the party outside of work. Just shows how some people can have an entirely different life outside of work.
@Salieri: | Exactly. There's some quote about if you judge a fish by how well it climbs a tree it will think its whole life that it is a failure. That's the reason I try to not make blanket judgments in people when I am training them in and they do not perform well. I bluntly tell them the reasons they need to hit certain criteria and explain if they can't it doesn't make them a bad person it just means they either need to put more work into it or find a different job that is better suited for the skills they have. That's why I also recently put my two weeks notice in is because while I was good at my job I didn't enjoy and I want to doing something that I can both thrive at and enjoy. |
@CharZero: He sounds awesome, way to make a cool friend! And now you know who not to befriend at work because they showed you the kind of people they are already.
@Salieri: | For sure! I try to be friendly with everyone but definitely have been reminding people that them being mean is not funny and probably means they have some insecurities about themselves. |
@DrinkWaterAndDraw: Why do you think people make fun of him?
@impulsiveminimalist: Probably because he is doing yoga in the parking lot, sleeps on top of his car during lunch breaks, and does stretches and yoga in between calls. He also walked through an emergency exit once because he wasn't thinking. Definitely not things to make fun of somebody for but definitely not how mainstream coworkers in offices usually act. I think some people might be a bit intimidated by someone who does not care about looking when and where he exercises.
@Lithl: Have you asked why he sleeps on _top_ of his car? That's the only part of the story that confuses me.
At my previous job I would spend half my lunch break napping in my car most days.
@dinosaursheep: Maybe it lets him stretch out? I have no idea and picturing it makes me chuckle, I adore people who give zero fucks.
@Salieri: | Zero fucks for the win! |
@Wander1900: Sad that people treat him like that
@impulsiveminimalist: Agreed! People being demeaning makes me very sad because people are choosing to use energy to be mean. Like what the heck! Why would you do that!
@Salieri: | I’m so glad he’s got good people like you who show him the world isn’t all full of bullies.
You should tell him what you told us. Don’t underestimate the power of sincere respect and kindness can have on a person’s mind. |
@GRATEDBALLSACKSALAD: goggy googgy googggy
@impulsiveminimalist: hurries over to Google to find out who David is
@Salieri: | His name is not that but I am pretty sure he has pictures at his desk of both David and someone by the name of Mark Allen in his desk. My new friend apparently runs ultramarathons and Mark Allen is his inspiration. |
@bitter_decaf: China is such a strange place compared to the rest of the world
@valtazar: It's 1/5 of humanity, a world of its own.
@patientbearr: Crazy that China and India are basically a third of the world's population.
@heckusernamesheck: If you remove a billion people from both India and China, they will still be most populous countries of the world.
@r0flsausag3: That's one of those facts you don't believe until you check Wikipedia. Those populations are out of control! We're all doomed
@Salieri: | China will eventually have a population crash due to the male to female gender ratio being off.
I won’t be shocked if India passes them in population.
China wants to expand its influence into other nations especially those in Africa. My guess a lot of their unattached males will go there as they expand. |
@bitter_decaf: China is such a strange place compared to the rest of the world
@CRGRO: Great food too.
@Salieri: | Until you get food poisoning |
@bitter_decaf: China is such a strange place compared to the rest of the world
@CRGRO: Great food too.
@Salieri: | Over there they just call it food |
@bitter_decaf: China is such a strange place compared to the rest of the world
@CRGRO: Great food too.
@Salieri: | In China? I’ve spent a total of 6 months there and the food always burns me out first. I like American Chinese, even European Chinese, but Chinese Chinese? No thank you. |
@Robbo1027: I worked as a teacher in Korea and I went to an interview once and when I met the interviewer he said “ I was so worried you were going to be black.” I didn’t take the job.
@Salieri: | Thanks for not taking the job. As a black man I appreciate you not tolerating that |
@Robbo1027: I worked as a teacher in Korea and I went to an interview once and when I met the interviewer he said “ I was so worried you were going to be black.” I didn’t take the job.
@zUltimateRedditor: I’m guessing you’re white? Did you ask him why?
@hlgb2015: Parents complain about it pretty often. I've heard it can make a school look low quality. White women have first pick for any jobs, although there is such a high turn over, its still not that hard to find something if your qualified. Not all schools are like that, but i definitely know some teachers that probably shouldn't be teaching, but get paid more than long term professional teachers. You get used to it though.
@zUltimateRedditor: That’s really sad. Good on you for not taking that job.
@Salieri: | Lol nah, im black, but im not a full time teacher. Overall, outside of teaching(and taxis), korea is way less racist than a lot of other places in Asia. I just teach adults, and work at my friends bar. |
@penne06: My brother is Caucasian with wavy/curly blond hair, blue eyes, and he's pretty damn tall. Overall just a big strongly built guy.
He went to China on a school trip & so many people stopped him to ask for photos - totally random strangers. He was a bit weirded out.
@OldWaterspout: That happened a bunch on my school trip too. Some people got asked more than others but I think we all took pictures at some point. Our Chinese trip leaders explained it as them just wanting to interact with you. It’s not really about the picture it’s about finding a reason to talk to a foreigner in a place you don’t see them very often. Once I understood that I actually found it pretty fun to get asked for a picture and I even asked for a couple myself. At one stop my friends and I kept seeing this girl looking at us and sort of waving. On our way out we saw her again and asked her if she wanted a picture and we got to have a bit of a conversation. Still felt a bit weird, but overall harmless.
@Salieri: | Idk man... I get why the trip leaders explained it to you all that way because it makes it seem less invasive and more innocent than it really is. It depends on the person and how strict their personal space boundaries are; but, in general, I just feel an explanation like that normalizes their behavior. Granted, I think he was trying to be kind and was trying to make you feel better about the breach of personal space. |
@bigchicago04: When I was in China for school, a dude at the Terra Cotta soldiers offered the black guy in our group some terra cotta figurines for a lock of his hair.
@iANDR0ID: So how many figurines did he get?
@Salieri: | Dude had a huge afro, now he's bald with his own terracotta army. |
@bigchicago04: When I was in China for school, a dude at the Terra Cotta soldiers offered the black guy in our group some terra cotta figurines for a lock of his hair.
@Salieri: | Well did he do it? |
@bigchicago04: When I was in China for school, a dude at the Terra Cotta soldiers offered the black guy in our group some terra cotta figurines for a lock of his hair.
@Salieri: | Creepy! |
@asharplibrarian: I had an uncomfortable situation with Chinese visitors at a university where I worked. It was graduation and a celebratory time. When a family came out and started talking to me and my friends I thought it was just happiness from the event. They hugged me and talked with me. It was nice. I DID think it was odd when they wanted a picture with me, but I obliged. It was only later that I realized they wanted a pic with me because I was morbidly obese. I still burn with humiliation over that. My friends and some acquaintances witnessed it, but no one ever mentioned it again. I’ve lost a lot of weight since then, but I’m still very heavy. My job now involves working with the local international population, including those very new to the US, and luckily I haven’t experienced that again. I think I have a better understanding of the cultural basis for it and would handle it much differently. But, God, that was an awful feeling.
@Bollywood_Fan: I'm sorry that happened to you. You don't need to feel humiliated, you did nothing wrong.
@Salieri: | Thank you for saying that! |
@Tsitradam: A part of me wants to go to China just to witness this sort of shit firsthand. But...I don't have chill, so someone might catch hands.
@Salieri: | I’ve had to calm a friend down several times because everyone’s rudeness gets to him. It can be unbearable at times. |
@DavidYangXV: Sorry to hear about your experience. I'm from China, studying in the states. Honestly it's just that the environment doesn't expose them to people to other races very much. I hope you don't think Chinese people are inherently racist.
@Unicorncorn21: I live in northern Europe and it definitely feels "exotic" in a way to see a black person. It's like once in a week usually. 9th grade was an exception because I had a very good Brazilian friend in school.
@Salieri: | I live in rural US and there are no black or Asian people. Just white people and Mexicans, some South Americans that work as cowboys. Even the Thai restaurant is run by Mexicans. |
@DavidYangXV: Sorry to hear about your experience. I'm from China, studying in the states. Honestly it's just that the environment doesn't expose them to people to other races very much. I hope you don't think Chinese people are inherently racist.
@Unicorncorn21: I live in northern Europe and it definitely feels "exotic" in a way to see a black person. It's like once in a week usually. 9th grade was an exception because I had a very good Brazilian friend in school.
@Skyblacker: Even Jewish white people feel "exotic" in northern Europe. It doesn't take much to deviate from the ethnic norm there.
@stefanos916: How can you tell the difference between a white Jew and a white non-Jew?
@Salieri: | You "look Jewish" if you have a large nose and thick dark hair. In America, this stereotype comes from the fact that the majority of our Jews are of Eastern European descent. |
@Wolfsong95: I saw something similar to this in a Korean vlogger's video. She has really young blasian kids and one time over a year ago, when they visit China, people kept asking her could they take pictures with the kids. I don't remember what she did about it, but it's so weird how people think asking a stranger to take a picture with them because of their race is okay in any country.
@overloadoverlord: Oh I think I know who you're talking about! Her name is lilypetals I think. These vlogs always show people coming up, getting a friend to take a pic then just walking off without saying a word. It's one thing to not ask for permission, but then to not even say hey/bye/thanks is disgusting. Almost like taking a pic with a statue....
@Wolfsong95: Yep that's her! It's like just because they're black means they don't deserve the respect a normal person should have. I would like to say this is the only time I've seen people be blatantly racist toward them, but Lily once almost had the cops called on her because someone thought she was kidnapping her own kids....
@Salieri: | I absolutely agree. I just hope those kids don't develop a complex from living there. Lily is definitely navigating it well but I wish sometimes she'd tell people to not touch her children. I can't believe they called the police on her though, that's ridiculous!! |
@Wolfsong95: I saw something similar to this in a Korean vlogger's video. She has really young blasian kids and one time over a year ago, when they visit China, people kept asking her could they take pictures with the kids. I don't remember what she did about it, but it's so weird how people think asking a stranger to take a picture with them because of their race is okay in any country.
@overloadoverlord: Oh I think I know who you're talking about! Her name is lilypetals I think. These vlogs always show people coming up, getting a friend to take a pic then just walking off without saying a word. It's one thing to not ask for permission, but then to not even say hey/bye/thanks is disgusting. Almost like taking a pic with a statue....
@Salieri: | Ohh, I experienced that too when I was in Beijing. I'm just white, but really tall for a girl, and we would constantly get people openly taking photos of us. It was the worst in the winter palace, tho, as it was a hot day and we kept having to sit down in the shade to rest. People would literally sit down next to us, while their friend would openly take a photo of them and me and my friend, then they would swap places... all of this without even acknowledging us as people. That, plus people taking photos of us walking down the street really got tiring super fast. |
@Honey_Cupcakes: One of my buddies is a ginger( like BRIGHT orange hair) and lived in Hong Kong then Shangai over a period of 4 years. People used to just touch his hair randomly in public, and also got the ‘take a selfie with me’ treatment.
The lack of diversity in a country with over a billion people is crazy.
@Salieri: | The country only really opened their doors in 2001. If you go to Shanghai, it's like being in London. Foreigners everywhere and it's slowly spreading. |
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