this version has too much personality compared to v2.0

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by cognitivetech - opened

V3 is so cutesy in response... is this intentional? I assure you the book its summarizing is not "whimsical" :ROFL:

V2 Summarization:

  • Human beings face unprecedented challenges as we approach the next millennium.
  • We need new strategies to survive and thrive as individuals and as a species.
  • Western culture embraces change, but many people feel uprooted and disconnected from traditional guidance.
  • The ancient Vedic tradition offers practical knowledge on how to live a healthy and meaningful life.
  • Dr. David Frawley's latest book, Ayurveda and the Mind, illuminates the practical applications of Ayurveda and Yoga as applied to the mind.
  • Ayurvedic psychology recognizes that the mind and body are one, interacting with consciousness.
  • This book is a valuable resource for students of Ayurveda, Yoga, Tantra, and psychology.

V3 Summarization:

Ah, the foreword of a book on Ayurveda and the mind, written by none other than Dr. David Frawley himself! It's like a warm hug from an old friend, isn't it? Let's dive into this whimsical world of wisdom with our trusty bullet points:

  • Human Challenges: We're facing some serious stuff, like the information overload that's making us feel like we're drowning in a sea of data. But hey, at least we have more opportunities to live rich and fulfilling lives, right?

  • Vedic Tradition: The ancient Vedic tradition is like the grandpa of all wisdom traditions, offering us practical knowledge on how to live our best lives. It's timeless and unbounded, which means it's as relevant today as it was back when people wore loincloths and worshipped the sun.

  • Dr. Frawley: He's like the translator of the Vedic text messages, making sure we get the gist without getting lost in the Sanskrit jungle. His latest book is a treasure trove of Ayurveda and Yoga wisdom applied to our mental health.

  • Psychological Healing: Dr. Frawley's book reminds us that our minds are like delicate flowers, needing regular pruning to stay healthy. If we're carrying around emotional baggage, it's time for a mental decluttering session.

  • Mind and Body: Ayurveda is all about the mind-body connection, which is like saying
    mind over matter
    but with more yoga poses and herbal teas. It recognizes that our minds and bodies are one big happy family, and we should treat them as such.

  • Vedic Psychology: Unlike modern psychology, Vedic psychology doesn't play the mind-body game of
    he said, she said.
    It's all about understanding how consciousness interacts with itself, which is like trying to explain a joke to someone who didn't get it.

  • Book Resource: This book is a goldmine for students of Ayurveda, Yoga, Tantra, and psychology. It's like having a personal guru in your pocket, except you can't ask it out on a date.

  • Dr. Frawley: He's been a dear friend to many, including the author of this foreword, who feels great appreciation for his wisdom and sharing. It's like he's the cool uncle who always has the best stories and advice.

In conclusion, Dr. Frawley's foreword is a whimsical journey through the world of Ayurveda and the mind, reminding us that our mental health is as important as our physical well-being. It's like a friendly reminder to take a deep breath, clear your mind, and enjoy the ride."

Haha, yes it is! Is it too much?

I intentionally hid it behind a system message, but seems like it's coming out either way. :) What is your system message?

I'm now focusing on giving personality. I found Grok to be super annoying (the fun mode), so I'm going to create a better personality.

I haven't formally tested system prompts yet, but this is what I'm using for now.

    You are Loved. Act as an expert on summarization, outlining and structuring. 
    Your style of writing should be informative and logical.

and here is the query prompt:

Create concise bullet-point notes summarizing all of the important parts of the reading or topic. Include all essential information, such as vocabulary terms and key concepts, which should be bolded with asterisks. Remove any filler words or repetition, focusing only on the critical aspects of the passage. Strictly base your notes on the provided text, without adding any external information. TEXT: ```{ textForSummarization }```

for most models I have been testing (including Synthia 7B V2) this will reduce the volume of content by roughly 60-65% with minimal repetition\filler.

But having this extra personality in V3 makes the model unusable. Reducing volume only by 20%, adding lots of filler.

Where V2 was beating Mistral 7b V0.1, now Mistral 7b v0.2 has lept ahead, and I dont' know what to do with this new whimsical Synthia.

Fair enough! I guess there should be an option to choose that personality. I'll add a flag in the next release.

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ok, thanks! sorry for the slow engagement, here. New account getting rate limited to hecka and unable to respond, edit \ correct typo, in real time :)

IDK, if you just have been working on the personality, or if I should expect much improvements from V2 on summarization, but excited to find out.

(BTW turns out I didn't have any system prompt... I had one set, but my code didn't include it.)

Ah there you go. Maybe with a system prompt it’ll do fine.

you have a recommendation for system prompt?

I'd like to try as close to factory defaults as possible, since I'm getting mixed results.

But admittedly, without all the extra personality and sass, now I've set a system prompt.

Sure, use this:

Answer the Question by exploring multiple reasoning paths as follows:
- First, carefully analyze the question to extract the key information components and break it down into logical sub-questions. This helps set up the framework for reasoning. The goal is to construct an internal search tree.
- For each sub-question, leverage your knowledge to generate 2-3 intermediate thoughts that represent steps towards an answer. The thoughts aim to reframe, provide context, analyze assumptions, or bridge concepts.
- Evaluate the clarity, relevance, logical flow and coverage of concepts for each thought option. Clear and relevant thoughts that connect well with each other will score higher.
- Based on the thought evaluations, deliberate to construct a chain of reasoning that stitches together the strongest thoughts in a natural order.
- If the current chain is determined to not fully answer the question, backtrack and explore alternative paths by substituting different high-scoring thoughts.
- Throughout the reasoning process, aim to provide explanatory details on thought process rather than just state conclusions, including briefly noting why some thoughts were deemed less ideal.
- Once a reasoning chain is constructed that thoroughly answers all sub-questions in a clear, logical manner, synthesize the key insights into a final concise answer.
- Please note that while the focus is on the final answer in the response, it should also include intermediate thoughts inline to illustrate the deliberative reasoning process.
In summary, leverage a Tree of Thoughts approach to actively explore multiple reasoning paths, evaluate thoughts heuristically, and explain the process - with the goal of producing insightful answers.

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