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Maria Maston: Okay Right. Um well this is the meeting for our our project. Um and um this is just what we're gonna be doing over the next twenty five minutes. Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Maria Maston: Um so first of all, just to kind of make sure that we all know each other, I'm Laura and I'm Maria Maston. Do Frances Lipscomb: Great. Maria Maston: you want to introduce yourself again? Sheila Eller: Hi, I'm David and be an industrial designer. Maria Maston: Okay. Frances Lipscomb: And Andrew and I'm uh marketing Sherry Wesson: Um Frances Lipscomb: expert. Sherry Wesson: I'm Craig and I'm User Interface. Maria Maston: Great. Okay. Um so we're designing a new remote control and um Oh I have to record who's here actually. So David, Andrew and Craig, it? And you all arrived on time. Um yeah so des uh design a new remote control. Um, as you can see it's supposed to be original, trendy and user friendly. Um so that's kind of our our brief, as it were. Um and so there are three different stages to the design. Um I'm not really sure what what you guys have already received um in your emails. What did you get? Sheila Eller: Um, I just got the project announcement about Maria Maston: Mm-hmm. Sheila Eller: what the project is. Designing Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Sheila Eller: a remote control. That's about it, Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Sheila Eller: didn't Frances Lipscomb: Yeah, Sheila Eller: get Frances Lipscomb: that's Sheila Eller: anything Frances Lipscomb: that's Sheila Eller: else. Maria Maston: Is that what Frances Lipscomb: it. Maria Maston: everybody Sherry Wesson: Yeah. Sheila Eller: Did Maria Maston: got? Sheila Eller: you get the same thing? Maria Maston: Okay. Frances Lipscomb: Yeah. Maria Maston: Um. So we're gonna have like individual work and then a meeting about it. And repeat that process three times. Um and at this point we get try out the whiteboard over there. Um. So uh you get to draw your favourite animal and sum up your favourite characteristics of it. So who would like to go Frances Lipscomb: I Maria Maston: first? Frances Lipscomb: will go. That's fine. Maria Maston: Very good. Frances Lipscomb: Alright. So This one here, right? Maria Maston: Mm-hmm. Frances Lipscomb: Okay. Very nice. Alright. My favourite animal is like Frances Lipscomb: A beagle. Frances Lipscomb: Um charac favourite characteristics of it? Is that right? Maria Maston: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: Uh, Maria Maston: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: right, well basically um high priority for any animal for is that they be willing take a lot of physical their family. And, yeah that they have lots of personality and uh be fit and in robust good health. So this is blue. Blue beagle. My family's beagle. Maria Maston: Right. Lovely. Sherry Wesson: Well, my favourite animal would be a monkey. Sherry Wesson: Then they're small cute and furry, and uh when planet of the apes becomes real, I'm gonna be up there with them. Maria Maston: Right. Sheila Eller: Cool. There's too much gear. Maria Maston: You can take as long over this as you like, because we haven't got an awful lot to discuss. Ok oh we do we do. Don't feel like you're in a rush, anyway. Sheila Eller: Okay. Frances Lipscomb: I coulda told you a whole lot more about beagles. Maria Maston: Ach Frances Lipscomb: Boy, let Frances Lipscomb tell Maria Maston: why not Frances Lipscomb: you. Maria Maston: We might have to get you up again then. I don't know what mine is. I'm gonna have to think on the spot now. Frances Lipscomb: Impressionist. Sheila Eller: Can't draw. Maria Maston: Is Sheila Eller: Um. Maria Maston: that a whale? Sheila Eller: Yeah. Um, well anyway, I don't know, it's just the first animal I can think off the top of my head. is 'cause I'm allergic to most animals. Allergic Maria Maston: Ah. Sheila Eller: to animal fur, so um fish was a natural choice. Um, yeah, and I kind of like whales. They come in and go eat everything in sight. And they're quite Frances Lipscomb: Alright. Sheila Eller: harmless and mild and interesting. Frances Lipscomb: Mm. Maria Maston: Okay. God, I still don't know what I'm gonna write about. Um. Frances Lipscomb: Superb sketch, by the way. Sheila Eller: Tail's a bit big, I think. Maria Maston: I was gonna choose a dog as well. But I'll just draw a different kind of dog. Frances Lipscomb: Yep. Maria Maston: M my favourite animal is my own dog at home. Um That doesn't really look like him, actually. He looks more like a pig, actually. Ah well. Frances Lipscomb: I see a dog in there. Maria Maston: Do you? Frances Lipscomb: Yep. Maria Maston: Oh that's very good of you. Frances Lipscomb: Now I see a rooster. Maria Maston: Uh. Frances Lipscomb: What kind is it? Maria Maston: Um he's a mixture of uh various things. Um and what do I like about him, um That's just to suggest that his tail wags. Um he's very friendly and cheery and always pleased to see you, and very kind of affectionate and um uh and he's quite quite wee as well so you know he can doesn't take up too much space. Um and uh And he does a funny thing where he chases his tail as well, which is quite amusing, Frances Lipscomb: Is Maria Maston: so Frances Lipscomb: he aware that th it's his own cha tail he's chasing? Maria Maston: It is. I think it is. He only does it after he's had his dinner and um he'll just all of a sudden just get up and start chasing his tail Frances Lipscomb: Hmm. Maria Maston: 'round the living room. Sheila Eller: It's an after dinner dog then. Maria Maston: Yeah, so Frances Lipscomb: Probably when Maria Maston: uh Frances Lipscomb: he was little he got lots of attention for doing it and Maria Maston: Yeah, Frances Lipscomb: has Maria Maston: maybe. Frances Lipscomb: forever been conditioned. Maria Maston: Maybe. Right, um where did you find this? Just down here? Yeah. Okay. Um what are we doing next? Uh um. Okay, uh we now need to discuss the project finance. Um so according to the brief um we're gonna be selling this remote control for twenty five Euro, um and we're aiming to make fifty million Euro. Um so we're gonna be selling this on an international scale. And uh we don't Frances Lipscomb: 'Kay. Maria Maston: want it to cost any more than uh twelve fifty Euros, so fifty percent of the selling price. Frances Lipscomb: Um, can we just go over that again? Maria Maston: Sure. Frances Lipscomb: Uh, so bas at twel Alright, yeah. Okay. So cost like production cost is Maria Maston: All together. Frances Lipscomb: twelve fifty, but selling price is is that wholesale or retail? Like on the shelf. Maria Maston: Um I dunno. I imagine That's a good Frances Lipscomb: Our Maria Maston: question. Frances Lipscomb: sale our sale anyway. Maria Maston: I imagine it probably is our Frances Lipscomb: Yeah, Maria Maston: sale Frances Lipscomb: okay Maria Maston: actually because it's probably Frances Lipscomb: okay. Maria Maston: up to the the um the retailer to uh Frances Lipscomb: Okay. Maria Maston: sell it for whatever price they want. Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Maria Maston: Um. Frances Lipscomb: Alright. Maria Maston: But I I don't know, I mean do you think the fact that it's going to be sold internationally will have a bearing on how we design it at all? Frances Lipscomb: Yes. Maria Maston: Think it will? Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Maria Maston: Um. Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Maria Maston: Hmm. Frances Lipscomb: Well right away I'm wondering if there's um th th uh, like with D_V_D_ players, if there are zones. Maria Maston: Oh yeah, Frances Lipscomb: Um Maria Maston: regions and Frances Lipscomb: f Maria Maston: stuff, yeah. Frances Lipscomb: frequencies or something Maria Maston: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: um Maria Maston: Okay. Frances Lipscomb: as well as uh characters, um different uh keypad styles and s symbols. Sheila Eller: Hmm. Maria Maston: Yeah. Well for Frances Lipscomb: Um. Maria Maston: a remote control, do you think that will be I suppose Frances Lipscomb: I don't Maria Maston: it's Frances Lipscomb: know. Maria Maston: depends on how complicated our remote control is. Frances Lipscomb: Yeah. Sheila Eller: It does make sense from maybe the design point of view 'cause you have more complicated characters like European languages, then you need more buttons. Maria Maston: Yeah, Frances Lipscomb: Yeah. Sheila Eller: So, Maria Maston: yeah. Sheila Eller: possibly. Frances Lipscomb: Yeah. Maria Maston: Okay. Frances Lipscomb: And then a and then al the other thing international is on top of the price. I'm thinking the price might might appeal to a certain market in one region, whereas in another it'll be different, so Maria Maston: What, just like Frances Lipscomb: Just Maria Maston: in Frances Lipscomb: a Maria Maston: terms Frances Lipscomb: chara just Maria Maston: of like Frances Lipscomb: a characteristic Maria Maston: the wealth of the Frances Lipscomb: of Maria Maston: country? Frances Lipscomb: the Maria Maston: Like how Frances Lipscomb: Just Maria Maston: much money people have to spend on things Frances Lipscomb: Or just Maria Maston: like? Frances Lipscomb: like, basic product podi positioning, the twenty five Euro remote control might be a big hit in London, might not be such a big hit in Greece, who knows, Maria Maston: Aye, I Frances Lipscomb: something Maria Maston: see what Frances Lipscomb: like Maria Maston: you Frances Lipscomb: that, Maria Maston: mean, Frances Lipscomb: yeah. Maria Maston: yeah. Marketing. Good marketing Frances Lipscomb: Yep. Maria Maston: thoughts. Oh gosh, I should be writing all this down. Um. Frances Lipscomb: Right away I'm making some kind of assumptions about what what information we're given here, Maria Maston: Mm. Frances Lipscomb: thinking, 'kay trendy probably means something other than just basic, Maria Maston: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: something other than just standard. Um so I'm wondering right away, is selling twenty five Euros, is that sort of the thi is this gonna to be like the premium product kinda Maria Maston: Yeah, Frances Lipscomb: thing Maria Maston: yeah. Frances Lipscomb: or Maria Maston: Like how much does, you know, a remote control cost. Frances Lipscomb: Uh-huh. Maria Maston: Well twenty five Euro, I mean that's um that's about like eighteen pounds or something, isn't it? Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Maria Maston: Or no, is it as much as that? Sixteen Frances Lipscomb: Yep. Maria Maston: seventeen eighteen pounds. Frances Lipscomb: Yeah, I'd say so, yeah. Maria Maston: Um, I dunno, I've never bought a remote control, so I don't Frances Lipscomb: No. Maria Maston: know how how good a remote Frances Lipscomb: Yeah, Maria Maston: control that would get you. Frances Lipscomb: yeah. Maria Maston: Um. But yeah, I suppose it has to look kind of cool Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Maria Maston: and gimmicky. Um right, okay. Okay. Um well d Does anybody have anything to add to uh to the finance issue at all? Frances Lipscomb: Do Maria Maston: Thin Frances Lipscomb: we have any other background information on like how that compares to other Maria Maston: No, actually. That Frances Lipscomb: other Maria Maston: would be useful, though, wouldn't it, if you knew like Frances Lipscomb: Yeah. Maria Maston: what your money would get you Sheila Eller: Hmm. Maria Maston: now. Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Maria Maston: Mm-hmm. Frances Lipscomb: Yeah, interesting thing about discussing um production of a remote control for Frances Lipscomb is that l as you point out, I just don't think of remote controls as somethin something people consciously assess in their purchasing habits. Maria Maston: Yeah, Frances Lipscomb: It's just Maria Maston: yeah. Frances Lipscomb: like getting shoelaces with shoes or something. Maria Maston: Oh. Frances Lipscomb: It just Maria Maston: Five Frances Lipscomb: comes Maria Maston: minutes Frances Lipscomb: along. Maria Maston: to end of meeting. Oh, okay. We're a bit behind. Frances Lipscomb: Do you know what I mean? Sherry Wesson: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: Like Sheila Eller: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: so sort of like how do you I I mean one one way of looking at it would be, well the people producing television sets, maybe they have to buy remote controls. Or another way is maybe people who have T_V_ sets are really fed up with their remote control and they really want Sherry Wesson: I Frances Lipscomb: a Sherry Wesson: know Frances Lipscomb: better Sherry Wesson: um Frances Lipscomb: one or something. Sherry Wesson: My Frances Lipscomb: But Sherry Wesson: parents went out and bought um remote controls because um they got fed up of having four or five different remote controls for each things Frances Lipscomb: Right. Sherry Wesson: the house. Frances Lipscomb: Right. Okay so Sherry Wesson: how many devices control. Frances Lipscomb: Right, so in function one of the priorities might be Maria Maston: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: to combine as many uses Maria Maston: Right, so do you think that should be like a main design aim of our remote control d you know, Frances Lipscomb: I think so. Maria Maston: do your Frances Lipscomb: Yeah, Maria Maston: your satellite and Frances Lipscomb: yeah. Maria Maston: your regular telly and Frances Lipscomb: Yeah. Maria Maston: your V_C_R_ and everything? Frances Lipscomb: Well like um, maybe what we could use is a sort of like a example of a successful other piece technology is palm palm pilots. They're gone from being just like little sort of scribble boards to cameras, M_P_ three players, Maria Maston: Mm-hmm. Frances Lipscomb: telephones, everything, agenda. So, like, I wonder if we might add something new to the to the remote control Maria Maston: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: market, such as the lighting in your house, or um Maria Maston: Or even like, you know, notes about um what you wanna watch. Like you might put in there oh I want Frances Lipscomb: Yeah, Maria Maston: to watch such and such Frances Lipscomb: yeah. Maria Maston: and look a Oh that's a good idea. Frances Lipscomb: An Maria Maston: So extra functionalities. Frances Lipscomb: Yeah. Like, p personally for Frances Lipscomb, at home I've I've combined the um the audio video of my television set and my D_V_D_ player and my C_D_ player. So they w all work actually function together but I have different remote controls for each of them. Maria Maston: Mm-hmm. Frances Lipscomb: So it's sort of ironic that that then they're in there um you know, the sound and everything it's just one system. But each one's Maria Maston: Hmm. Frances Lipscomb: got its own little part. Maria Maston: Um okay, uh I'd wel we're gonna have to wrap up pretty quickly in the next couple of minutes. Um I'll just check we've nothing else. Okay. Um so anything else anybody wants to add about what they don't like about remote controls they've used, what they would really like to be part of this new one at all? Sheila Eller: And you keep losing them. Maria Maston: You keep Frances Lipscomb: Mm. Maria Maston: losing them. Okay. Sheila Eller: Finding them is really Frances Lipscomb: Mm. Sheila Eller: a pain, you know. I Frances Lipscomb: Mm. Sheila Eller: mean it's usually quite small, or when you want Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Sheila Eller: it right, it slipped Frances Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Sheila Eller: behind the couch or it's Maria Maston: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: Yeah. Sheila Eller: kicked under the table. Maria Maston: W Frances Lipscomb: Yeah. Maria Maston: You get Sheila Eller: You Maria Maston: those Sheila Eller: know. Maria Maston: ones where you can, Frances Lipscomb: That's just really Maria Maston: if Frances Lipscomb: good Maria Maston: you Frances Lipscomb: Sheila Eller Maria Maston: like, whistle or make a really high pitched noise they beep. Frances Lipscomb: Yep. Maria Maston: There I mean is that something we'd want to include, do you think? Frances Lipscomb: Uh, Maria Maston: Dunno. Frances Lipscomb: sure. Maria Maston: Okay maybe. Frances Lipscomb: I remember when the first remote control my my family had was on a cable. Actually had a cable between it and the T_V_ and big like buttons that sort of like, like on a blender or something. Maria Maston: My goodness. Frances Lipscomb: And um, you know, when I think about what they are now, it's better, Maria Maston: Still Frances Lipscomb: Maybe Maria Maston: feels Frances Lipscomb: we could Maria Maston: quite Frances Lipscomb: think Maria Maston: primitive. Frances Lipscomb: about how, could be more, you know, streamlined. Maria Maston: Maybe Frances Lipscomb: S Maria Maston: like a touch screen or something? Frances Lipscomb: Something like that, yeah. Maria Maston: Okay. Frances Lipscomb: Or whatever would be technologically reasonable. Maria Maston: Uh-huh, okay. Well Frances Lipscomb: 'Cause Maria Maston: I guess Frances Lipscomb: it could Maria Maston: that's Frances Lipscomb: b Maria Maston: up Frances Lipscomb: it Maria Maston: to Frances Lipscomb: could Maria Maston: our industrial Frances Lipscomb: it could be Maria Maston: designer. Frances Lipscomb: that f it could be that functionally that doesn't make it any better, but that just the appeal Maria Maston: It looks Frances Lipscomb: of Maria Maston: better. Frances Lipscomb: of not having You know, these days there's a r pe things in people's homes are becoming more and more like chic, you know. Maria Maston: Yeah. Frances Lipscomb: Um, nicer materials and Maria Maston: Okay. Frances Lipscomb: might be Maria Maston: Okay. Frances Lipscomb: be worth exploring anyway. Sherry Wesson: Uh. Maria Maston: Right, well um so just to wrap up, the next meeting's gonna be in thirty minutes. So that's about um about ten to twelve by my watch. Um so inbetween now and then, um as Sheila Eller, you're gonna be working on you know the actual working Sheila Eller: Yep. Maria Maston: design of it so y you know what you're doing there. Um for user interface, technical functions, I guess that's you know like what we've been talking about, what it'll actually do. Um and uh marketing executive, you'll be just thinking about what it actually what, you know, what requirements it has to has to fulfil and you'll all get instructions emailed to you, I guess. Frances Lipscomb: Okay. Maria Maston: Um. Yeah, so it's th the functional design stage is next, I guess. And uh and that's the end of the meeting. So I got Frances Lipscomb: Um. Maria Maston: that little message a lot sooner than I thought I would, so Frances Lipscomb: Before we wrap up, just to make sure we're all on the same page here, Maria Maston: Mm-hmm. Frances Lipscomb: um, do we We were given sort of an example of a coffee machine or something, Maria Maston: Uh-huh, Frances Lipscomb: right? Maria Maston: yeah. Sheila Eller: Mm-hmm. Frances Lipscomb: Well, um are we at ma right now on the assumption that our television remote control may have features which go beyond the television? Or are we keeping Maria Maston: Th Frances Lipscomb: sort of like a a design commitment to television features? Maria Maston: Okay, Frances Lipscomb: I Maria Maston: well Frances Lipscomb: I don't know. Maria Maston: just very quickly 'cause this we're supposed to finish now. Frances Lipscomb: Yep. Maria Maston: Um I guess Frances Lipscomb: Yeah, sure. Maria Maston: that's up to us, I mean you probably want some kind of unique selling point of it, Frances Lipscomb: Okay. Maria Maston: so um, Sheila Eller: I Maria Maston: you Sheila Eller: think Maria Maston: know Sheila Eller: one factor would be production cost. Frances Lipscomb: Okay, yeah. Sheila Eller: Because Maria Maston: Yeah. Sheila Eller: there's a cap there, so um Frances Lipscomb: Okay. Sheila Eller: depends on how much you can cram into that price. Maria Maston: Mm-hmm. Frances Lipscomb: Okay. Sheila Eller: Um. Maria Maston: Yeah. Sheila Eller: I think that that's the main factor. Maria Maston: Okay. Frances Lipscomb: Okay. Maria Maston: Right, okay, we'll that's that's the end of the meeting, then. Frances Lipscomb: Alright. Maria Maston: Um. So, uh thank you all for coming. Sheila Eller: Cool.

Maria Maston introduced the upcoming project to the team members and then the team members participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animal and discussed what they liked about the animal. Maria Maston talked about the project finances and selling prices. The team then discussed various features to consider in making the remote.

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Geraldine Montgomery: 'S to do now is Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: to decide how to fulfil what your stuff is, so Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: in that sense Cheryl Robertson: Yeah, Geraldine Montgomery: so Cheryl Robertson: sure. Geraldine Montgomery: it does kind of Lori Snyder: Okay, Geraldine Montgomery: make Cheryl Robertson: It Geraldine Montgomery: sense, Lori Snyder: well Cheryl Robertson: kinda Geraldine Montgomery: yeah. Cheryl Robertson: does make, doesn't it, because when we get into the end of meeting we're kind of talking about action and design as opposed Geraldine Montgomery: Yep. Cheryl Robertson: to background. Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: Everything I have is kinda background. Lori Snyder: Okay we to go? Geraldine Montgomery: Yep. Lori Snyder: Well how um on the in this meeting then if we um I'll just just recap on the minutes from the last meeting. And we uh decided on Geraldine Montgomery: Yep. Lori Snyder: decided on our our target group being fifteen to thirty five, Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Lori Snyder: and we decided that it was gonna be non-rechargeable battery-powered, that we're gonna group our audio-visual and other functions into into those categories, um. And I told you guys about the three requirements about ignoring, except the T_V_, and trying to incorporate the corporate colour slogan. Um so that was the last meeting. Is there Geraldine Montgomery: Mm-hmm. Lori Snyder: anything have I forgotten anything? Geraldine Montgomery: No. Cheryl Robertson: Uh Lori Snyder: Is that Cheryl Robertson: that Lori Snyder: everything? Cheryl Robertson: sounds. Lori Snyder: Okay. Um so if we have the three presentations, and then if you have anything to kind of that you know you're gonna want to discuss, maybe just make a note of it, and we'll have all the discussion at the end. That might Cheryl Robertson: Sure. Lori Snyder: be a better idea this time. And so Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: if we start off uh with Andrew and then Craig and then David, if that's Cheryl Robertson: Sure. Lori Snyder: alright. Um Geraldine Montgomery: Yep. Lori Snyder: and then after that we'll have to make some decisions about stuff, Cheryl Robertson: Yeah, Lori Snyder: right. Cheryl Robertson: cool. Lori Snyder: So if Cheryl Robertson: Why don't Lori Snyder: you wanna Cheryl Robertson: I get that? Lori Snyder: take this. Cheryl Robertson: Hmm. Lori Snyder: Screwed in quite tightly. Uh what did uh how did we leave it with speech recognition now? We did we say we were gonna try maybe incorporate it but we hadn't made a definite Geraldine Montgomery: Mm-hmm. Lori Snyder: decision on that? Right. Oh I should also point out that um the you know the kind of final objective of this meeting is to reach a decision on the concepts of the product. Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: So um that's kind of the end result hopefully. Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Um alright so c is it function F_ eight? Lori Snyder: Uh-huh. Hopefully Cheryl Robertson: Hmm. Lori Snyder: appear in a wee second. Cheryl Robertson: Come on. I think it's working. Lori Snyder: Up there we go. Cheryl Robertson: great let Cheryl Robertson just start this. Okay great. So um uh s move on. Uh-huh oh where'd it all go? It's not good. Lori Snyder: Oh no. Cheryl Robertson: Okay lemme just see where I can find it. Cheryl Robertson: This looks more like it. I think I just opened up the template. Sorry Lori Snyder: Oh Cheryl Robertson: about that. Lori Snyder: right. Cheryl Robertson: Okay alright so let's have a look here. Okay so Lori Snyder: Here Cheryl Robertson: this Lori Snyder: we go. Cheryl Robertson: was the method that um I've taken. Uh basically what I wanna do here, before we get into it uh too far, is I want to show you all the background information I have that I think we need to acknowledge if we want this to be successful. Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: And uh and then sorta g go through some of the way that I've dealt with that information, and then sort of bring us all together into it to see sorta see how this fits in with the overall vision. Um so I've tried to take a whole lot of market research and summarise it for us, and then ide identify uh trends that are are sort of in sync and are important to our our uh p project plan that we have so far, and then uh initiate a kind of discussion on design options so that it sorta helps us to to narrow in on on aspects that will inform other uh other elements of the of the project. Does that make sense, Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: tha Geraldine Montgomery: Yep. Cheryl Robertson: that sort of strategy? I thought that that will impact on the rest of what we do, so that's why I suggested Lori Snyder: Aye a Cheryl Robertson: we Lori Snyder: fair Cheryl Robertson: get Lori Snyder: point Cheryl Robertson: in this. Lori Snyder: definitely. Cheryl Robertson: Okay so out of um different uh figures and ratings ob uh of people in general, um consumers in general, the number one thing that was found was that uh the br t television remote control, a fancy look and feel, okay, and not, it specified, not a functional look or or feel, Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: uh b f f fancy. Um however, this is where we kinda have to be very, I think, creative about it. Number two was that it be innovative. Okay so that tells Cheryl Robertson that we have to find a way to be innovative without a adding just unnecessary um sort of functional bits to it. Uh and third priority uh for ease of use, so again that kind of gives us a general picture of how it has to be, um quite user friendly while still having technology. So it I'll just say right away as a bit of a foreshadowing into how we proceed with this in terms of m marketing, is that I think um what we should think about is how the um about how the innovation uh contributes to the look and feel, and not so much to the functionality of it. For example Lori Snyder: Aye right. Cheryl Robertson: like when you pick it up and push it like it all lights up or something, you know what I mean, like, or it's got something else to it Lori Snyder: Uh-huh. Cheryl Robertson: that just seems innovative because obviously the thing that the message here is ease of use. So how do you make innovation make something more more easy to use? Well that's I guess where we're gonna go with this. Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: Okay then there's the other aspect of the back the the market um research I have here is on fashion style, okay, which as we've agreed is a priority. Uh top European fashion trend um that I read about says there's this emerging theme of fruit and vegetables, okay, especially in clothes and furniture. And when I first saw that I thought hmm, well do we want to actually try and think about this trend and how we add something to it, or we get right into it, or we completely steer away from it, do you know what I Lori Snyder: Okay Cheryl Robertson: mean? Lori Snyder: okay. Cheryl Robertson: So my my feeling is that we w do want to observe this trend, but we want to think also about the fact that it sort of has to fit in with something which is not specifically electronics. Um 'cause I think what we're in what we're in is partly sort of home decor, partly something like a computer, um so I think we might wanna be careful about how you know how quickly we create like a remote control in the shape of an apple or something, I think that would be pushing it. And then in terms of m material trends are for things to be soft and spongy and sort of, you might say ergonomic or or friendly to handle, which is which also in indicated that last year this was this was not the case. So um probably a lot of the competition on the market will be still in last year's mode, so if we try and really capitalise on that, I think that'll be in our favour. Um So these this is the summary of everything. market of who we're selling to. Uh innovative design technology's also a must in that it's seen it'd be seen to be uh cutting edge, uh but ease of use t has to be insured throughout. That was like the number three thing. And then at the end there are vibrant natural colours um that's the way I interpreted it anyway, softness in materials, shape, and function, and so I've written at written at the bottom to give us sort of a context of discussion, Mac iPods, Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: something which is, I'd have to say very high-tech, ten gigabytes, whatever, but when you hold it in your hand there's like no buttons. You know Lori Snyder: Mm Cheryl Robertson: what a Mac Lori Snyder: that's Cheryl Robertson: iPod Lori Snyder: true, Cheryl Robertson: is? Lori Snyder: yeah. Cheryl Robertson: I'm thinking however Mac iPod is sort of last year's because it's very hard and sort of glassy and glossy, so I'm thinking if we imagine that we're taking some of the features of a Mac iPod and we're then making it s more of like a more of like a comfortable type of or more of like a maybe more vibrant to friendly thing to have. Um and then so this is w with all that information what I'm what I'm suggesting in this slide here is that we we take these ideas, and as we get into more the more um techni like sort of production side of things, that we think about shape, materials, and themes or series that go throughout. Sort of like a I dunno like um we think of some kind of a thin theme that unifies it all, that we agree on, uh sorta like a marketing identity. Um Does that make sense? Yeah. So so like I threw out a few ideas there just to kinda get us thinking along those lines like lemon, lime, I dunno, green colours, pe whatever, it's just an idea, 'cause I'm thinking that some of these ideas will seem quite coherent if we use them in terms of their what people associate this them with in terms of texture, shape, colours, things like that. Lori Snyder: Mm 'kay. Great. Cheryl Robertson: Like um the ones the ones which I'm most fond of in terms of giving like a theme to it would be like um like lemon or something like that, you know something which is, like you see a lot in in other areas. Like I see lots of websites and things that seem to associate with like lemon and lime and Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: So anyway it's just just an idea. Lori Snyder: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: I'm thinking maybe we could incorporate some of these features into a fairly um into something which is which seems to have something to it which is almost gimmicky because like um like something to do with like lighting within it. Like you know just within Lori Snyder: Ah. Cheryl Robertson: the simple sense, when you pick up a phone and touch a button it uh lights up, q usually the buttons light up. How can we build on that? Maybe like it could light up in different colours or something or or people could buy the buy the control and then it comes with different like covers or something so. Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: Anyway those are that's all I have, but Lori Snyder: That's Cheryl Robertson: uh Lori Snyder: great. Cheryl Robertson: hopefully we can we can revisit those ideas Lori Snyder: Uh-huh. Cheryl Robertson: when we get into Lori Snyder: Okay great. Um thank you for that. Uh Cheryl Robertson: Yep. Lori Snyder: Craig do you wanna uh plug yours in then? Jessica Macias: Is it working? Lori Snyder: Mm. Not quite. Cheryl Robertson: Did you press F_ eight? Geraldine Montgomery: It's probably not sending. Yeah. Lori Snyder: Oh something coming Geraldine Montgomery: Yep, Lori Snyder: now, Geraldine Montgomery: there Lori Snyder: yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: it is. Lori Snyder: There we go. Jessica Macias: And so think of this concept. Um to research it I've um had a look on the the homepage again. It's provided Cheryl Robertson with more examples of um previously existing c remote controls. Um there's a wee bit of discussion about the other existing ones there, um so I've taken the um suggestions from them and tried to incorporate them into this um So then this we're looking for um suggestions on size th um size of control and the buttons, um the shape of the control, whereabout the buttons should be located on the control. Lori Snyder: Mm. Jessica Macias: Um what I found from the research is that most the current controls are just basically big bricks with loads of buttons all over them. Um they're not very attractive to look at, and they're not very comfortable to hold, they're I just hold 'em like big bricks, and they're very easily lost. Um they tend to be very dark colours, so if there are shadowy places down the side of couches you can't really see them. Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Jessica Macias: Um the the controls themselves tend to use a very inconsistent colour scheme. Um for instance, the stand-by button isn't always red, uh it really should be. It's uh something the user then uh identify with. This is a red switch off, that's how it should be. Um I'm not sure if there's any other examples of that, but something to look out for. Um there's a problem that I've I've got couple of preferences for the the end control um I get 'em with the the red colour button for stand-by and s the other examples of that um The buttons should be large. They shouldn't be tiny little things like you get on some mobile phones. They should be easy to press, very comfortable. Um one of the examples given on the homepage was um there's an up and down volume button but both of them have a V_ on them, Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Jessica Macias: so the up volume button looks like it should be a down volume button, that's kinda confusing. Um should avoid s things like that. Um if the the corporate colour scheme allows it we should have a very bright colour so that it can be easily identified anywhere. Lori Snyder: Okay. Jessica Macias: Um obviously trying trying to avoid being tacky there, but it could um tie-in very easily with your Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Jessica Macias: your lime Cheryl Robertson: Okay, Jessica Macias: and lemon idea. Cheryl Robertson: do we have a corporate colour scheme? I didn't Lori Snyder: I Cheryl Robertson: know. Lori Snyder: think it's yellow because like the website is yellow and Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: there's a band at the bottom is yellow, so Geraldine Montgomery: And the Play-Doh Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: 's yellow. Lori Snyder: yellow, lemon, Jessica Macias: Fantastic. Lori Snyder: you know definitely food for thought there, Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: but keep going and we'll discuss it Jessica Macias: Um Lori Snyder: after. Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Jessica Macias: any extra features we add beyond the basic ones should be m hidden, they shouldn't be on the um shouldn't be visible without something be opened or Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Jessica Macias: some sort of special extra effort. Um if we did decide to go for voice activation there sh should always be a button as alternative, possibly hidden in the the opened up section um making that something is wrong with it or with somebody's voice, maybe they got a cold or Um we should definitely avoid the big square block look. That's just wrong. Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Lori Snyder: Mm 'kay. Jessica Macias: And um we got an email uh from I think it's the the research department, and they've said th the voice control um can now talk back if you ask it a question. Lori Snyder: Mm. Jessica Macias: So it sh it could be good to have them um confirm any action you take Lori Snyder: Aye Jessica Macias: and Lori Snyder: that's a good idea, Jessica Macias: possibility. Lori Snyder: yeah. Jessica Macias: Right and these are problems I've had with it. Um I don't know where the slogan should go, or really what the slogan is. I think it's um, fashion into electronics. Lori Snyder: Yeah. Jessica Macias: And we don't know how flexible the colour scheme is. I mean you say you wanted the the corporate colours, but they don't say you know if we can use Cheryl Robertson: Mm. Jessica Macias: any other colours at all or Cheryl Robertson: Mm. Lori Snyder: Okay. Jessica Macias: That's Geraldine Montgomery: Cool. Jessica Macias: it. Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: Great. Lots of good information there. Lori Snyder: Yeah that Geraldine Montgomery: Mm-hmm. Lori Snyder: that was very good, and Geraldine Montgomery: Mm Lori Snyder: uh Geraldine Montgomery: 'kay Lori Snyder: now with Geraldine Montgomery: um. Lori Snyder: David. Jessica Macias: I think I'm cool. Cheryl Robertson: It's a shame the cable wasn't just in the middle Lori Snyder: I know Cheryl Robertson: of the table, Lori Snyder: it'd be handy, Cheryl Robertson: huh? Lori Snyder: wouldn't it. Cheryl Robertson: Just um Geraldine Montgomery: Oops. Lori Snyder: Do y do you wanna sit in the the line of sight of this Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah Lori Snyder: um Geraldine Montgomery: okay. Let Cheryl Robertson just get this Lori Snyder: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: going first. Ah there it is. Cheryl Robertson: It takes a second, doesn't it? Geraldine Montgomery: 'Kay, that should it. Okay um I guess the same thing again, I started with something very basic. So just so you guys have some idea of what's involved in my process, Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: um and then you can just work through it and we 'll either modify it or start from scratch um depending on what your needs are. Um the components are exactly the same. Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: Um I think, like what you guys said, um the most input that's needed is basically in the user interface. The rest of the components um they do have an impact in terms of cost and complexity. Um like you said time to market was a problem, um and how many components are physically in there in cost. And the power is basically a factor of that. Um and the lower components, the power, the logic, the transmitter, and the infrared, um they affect you in terms of the size of your device, um and that would have some inte impact on how y I think more how you hold rather than um the actual use using the the remote control because um like we've said we've defined, like we only want the basic things that to be visible, and the rest of them we try to hide. Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: So um you know it's just a matter of working out space. So I guess three things, um cost, um complexity, and the size. These are the three things that um will have an impact on you. So just go through it in the components. Um these are the options that are available to you, um I'm not very sure about the voice thing 'cause I got another email and it was in fact quite sketchy on what n the voice options are. Jessica Macias: Right. Geraldine Montgomery: Um it said it could talk to you, but it never said anything about being able to listen. I it said something about a sensor but never clarified that. Cheryl Robertson: Mm. Lori Snyder: Hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: So maybe if you well I could see the other email that they sent you, um 'cause they got back to Cheryl Robertson with like different requirements, or different offerings of what components availa Okay so Jessica Macias: Right. Geraldine Montgomery: your basic components are buttons, Lori Snyder: Mm. Geraldine Montgomery: okay and you have a wheel available, like a mouse scroll wheel, Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: okay there's an L_C_D_ display, um I think these are quite standard things. Cheryl Robertson: They're standard, aren't they? Geraldine Montgomery: No um they're well in the sense that these are all the options available for you. I'll explain to you the complexity and the cost thing again a bit Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: later. Okay um then there's um how the case actually looks. It can actually be flat or it can be curved, um and then the different types of materials that you can use, um I don't think you can use them in a combination, Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: um but um I could check back for you, but I don't think you can actually use them in a combination. Lori Snyder: We you couldn't have like plastic and rubber? Geraldine Montgomery: Um I think plastic and rubber would be fine, but plastic, rubber, and wood, I wasn't I'm not very sure about the titanium. Lori Snyder: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: They had some restrictions Cheryl Robertson: Hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: on using the rubber and the titanium. Lori Snyder: Mm Geraldine Montgomery: Um Lori Snyder: 'kay. Geraldine Montgomery: the rubber was a restriction on the kind of power source you could use, but the titanium had a different kind of things on the shape of the Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: thing, so I think that there is some restriction on um I think you could probably group plastic and rubber together, Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: wood and titanium, but you know it might be easier from a cost perspective and a Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: complexity just to use one. Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: You know as opposed to two. Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: Um and the other components are logic chips, um again I'll I'll go back to the component chips. The com how complex or how easy the logic is, it depends on how many functions you have on the on the unit um and that impacts cost. Um Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: I don't think the logic chip has a issue about size 'cause they Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: should be about the same size. Power consumption should be about the same. Um Cheryl Robertson: Hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: I think the main impact is complexity, um and the other thing is um the power options. Um the first one is a standard battery. Okay the second one I think is more of a gimmick then actually a useable thing, it's a wind-up Lori Snyder: I'll clear Geraldine Montgomery: you know, Lori Snyder: one of these Geraldine Montgomery: a Lori Snyder: things Geraldine Montgomery: crank. Lori Snyder: for you. Just Cheryl Robertson: Hmm. Lori Snyder: by moving Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah Lori Snyder: it yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: but that that might be something I think that's more of a look and feel decision because I don't think you can have one power source if you're using the alternative power sources. I think whatever it is you still need a battery 'cause Lori Snyder: Mm. Geraldine Montgomery: I don't think anybody wants to keep doing one thing. Cheryl Robertson: No. Geraldine Montgomery: Okay the other ones Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: are a solar powered cell, which may not be a great idea in Europe or any country that has seasons 'cause half the year you'd be dead. a battery Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: and something else. Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: Um and the kinetic one I guess for Cheryl Robertson is the most interesting one because it's movement and people like to fiddle with their Lori Snyder: Mm. Geraldine Montgomery: and it's a nice sales gimmick I think. From a marketing Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: gimmick it it's a technology thing, it's a shake it it doesn't work, shake it, knock it or something. You know Lori Snyder: W Cheryl Robertson: Hmm. Lori Snyder: yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: you know you Lori Snyder: Uh Geraldine Montgomery: have you had Lori Snyder: yeah Geraldine Montgomery: those Lori Snyder: yeah, Geraldine Montgomery: balls, Lori Snyder: I see. Geraldine Montgomery: you know those Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: stress balls where you bounce the ball and it and it lights up and it goes, you know that might be a gimmick combined with rubber. Cheryl Robertson: Hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: You know just to Lori Snyder: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: if you get frustrated wi remote control you can throw it, kind of you know just uh Cheryl Robertson: Hmm. Lori Snyder: I know what you mean yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: you know um so. Um okay my from my role, I don't think that personal preferences but role preferences, I think um something comfortable to hold, Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: um small and slim I guess that's more in the sense of small and slim in terms of comfortable not so small you can't, you know like a phone Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: or something, too small phone. Um and the other thing is from a production point of view um the less components we use and the simpler the components means you reduce your cost and you increase your profit. Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: Um and also the time to market and the complexity of developing Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm Geraldine Montgomery: designing Cheryl Robertson: mm-hmm Geraldine Montgomery: and debugging Cheryl Robertson: mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: it um so. Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: Um okay let Cheryl Robertson just go back and talk about some of the restrictions. Um The user interface restrictions basically means that if you use more complicated features, like the buttons are standard okay, the L_C_D_ panel and the scroll wheel you need more complicated logic. Lori Snyder: Mm. Geraldine Montgomery: Um the case okay with a rubber case you can't have the solar panels. Okay with the titanium case, let Cheryl Robertson just check that um, titanium case can't be curved, it has to be square. Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: Okay um there's no restriction on the plastic, Cheryl Robertson: It can't Geraldine Montgomery: and Cheryl Robertson: be curved. Geraldine Montgomery: it can't be curved Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: on the wood. So that's again, I don't think you can use them in a combination, Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: um especially the titanium I I suspect they're Lori Snyder: Right. Geraldine Montgomery: very fixed to a particular need. So um mixing them may not be a good idea Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: um yep. Lori Snyder: Right Geraldine Montgomery: That's Cheryl Robertson: Uh Geraldine Montgomery: it. Cheryl Robertson: question Lori Snyder: can Cheryl Robertson: on Lori Snyder: I Cheryl Robertson: can I ask a question? Lori Snyder: Yeah well yeah it's just I'm quite keen to get the discussion going with the time we've left so Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: but yeah you c ask Cheryl Robertson: Can Lori Snyder: away. Cheryl Robertson: we uh power a light in this? Can we get a strong enough battery to power a light? Geraldine Montgomery: Um I think we could because the L_C_D_ panel requires power, and the L_C_D_ is a form of a light Lori Snyder: Mm. Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: so that Cheryl Robertson: So maybe one of the things we can just try and include is a really good battery. Lori Snyder: Why what kind of light do you want are you thinking Cheryl Robertson: Well Lori Snyder: of? Cheryl Robertson: I mean I'm thinking it might be That for uh this to be a high-tech thing it's Lori Snyder: Uh-huh. Cheryl Robertson: gonna have to have something high-tech about it Lori Snyder: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: and that's gonna take battery power, and to make that to make that a realistic goal I think one of the issues that will come up later is, Geraldine Montgomery: Are Cheryl Robertson: can Geraldine Montgomery: you Cheryl Robertson: the Geraldine Montgomery: thinking Cheryl Robertson: battery power Geraldine Montgomery: are you Cheryl Robertson: it? Geraldine Montgomery: thinking of of a light in the sense of um a light light, or a light in the sense of Cheryl Robertson: Illuminate Geraldine Montgomery: it glows Cheryl Robertson: the buttons. Geraldine Montgomery: kind of Cheryl Robertson: Yeah Geraldine Montgomery: you Cheryl Robertson: it Geraldine Montgomery: know Cheryl Robertson: glows. Geraldine Montgomery: Frankenstein, it's alive. Cheryl Robertson: Well m I'm thinking along the lines of you're you're in the dark watching a D_V_D_ Geraldine Montgomery: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: and you um you find the thing in the dark and you go like this, and that's what everybody does. Oh where's the volume button in the dark, Lori Snyder: Yeah yeah yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: and uh y you just touch it, or you just pick it up, and it lights up or something. Lori Snyder: Like a phone Geraldine Montgomery: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: Like Lori Snyder: yeah, Cheryl Robertson: a phone, Lori Snyder: like Cheryl Robertson: yeah Lori Snyder: the backlight Cheryl Robertson: yeah. Lori Snyder: in a phone. Okay cool. Cheryl Robertson: Whereas with phones, people charge them once a week. Lori Snyder: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: We're gonna need to put in a really good battery so people don't have to charge their r remote control every few days. Geraldine Montgomery: Um that's why I think the option of the the kinetic thing which basically means as long as you shake it like a watch, like an automatic Cheryl Robertson: But are people gonna Geraldine Montgomery: watch Lori Snyder: Mm. Cheryl Robertson: wanna shake their movie controller? Geraldine Montgomery: um it's probably sensitive enough when you fiddle it. Cheryl Robertson: Right. Geraldine Montgomery: So Cheryl Robertson: Sure. Lori Snyder: Mm. Geraldine Montgomery: you could trigger that to a light, like I said the bouncing ball thing, or you Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: could trigger that to use that to power Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: the light as opposed to Cheryl Robertson: Right. Geraldine Montgomery: so when they pick it up, right, and then Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: that that sorta triggers Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: the Lori Snyder: Right Geraldine Montgomery: glowingness. Lori Snyder: okay Cheryl Robertson: Okay, Lori Snyder: um Cheryl Robertson: great. Lori Snyder: well let's just go right back to the marketing ideas for a start, and just giving an Geraldine Montgomery idea on the time, we've got about fifteen minutes to play with at most. Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: So um yeah so just t to bear in mind that the ultimate goal of this meeting is to reach an decision on the the the concepts of the product. So Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: back to your idea about um incorporating the idea of like fruit and veg, and Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: the corporate colour, and things like that. Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: Um I mean what does everybody think about Does anybody have any ideas of about how we can fit all that in together? I mean that's kind of the user interface type of thing, what are your thoughts on that? Jessica Macias: Um I think we could go for like um maybe not a p a fruit shape but a very sort of curvy type shape. Um you could have the same sort of texture and colour as a fruit. Lori Snyder: So maybe do y are we thinking something that like s could sit in your hand comfortably, or do you th you'd hold onto comfortably or Jessica Macias: Um probably something that s sits in your hand comfortably, sort of Lori Snyder: So Jessica Macias: feels Lori Snyder: something Jessica Macias: right in Lori Snyder: quite Jessica Macias: your hand. Lori Snyder: curvy? Okay um right okay. Colour-wise I mean you made a re uh was it you or uh I can't remember who made the point about how if you've a nice bright colour you'll not lose it, was that Whose Geraldine Montgomery: I think Cheryl Robertson: What's Geraldine Montgomery: he Cheryl Robertson: that? Geraldine Montgomery: made that. Lori Snyder: about how if you have a bright colour you'll not lose it so much. Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: Um and when the corporate colour is yellow, I mean maybe we could think about about the colour of the whole product being Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: yellow I don't know. Um And then obviously the uh the materials when it Cheryl Robertson: Well Lori Snyder: That's all. Cheryl Robertson: I mean I'm thinking that what we need to do is have something that kind of unifies a lot of the different concepts, and Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: if we think that what we are w our number one marketing motive is um the look and feel. Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: So for the look and feel to seem coherent and not just sorta bits and bits and pieces of of concept and technology or or whatever or fashion, then we should have it kind of come back to one thing that we kind of all sorta can visualize. Um maybe what we could do is t th think about a concept which touches b back to the on the um the colour, you said Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: company colour yellow. I mean if we think of something, like I was saying also lime Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: and lemon you know, what can we come up with something where we we try and associate it with with like the series. We just come up with something like that we kind of use it as a theme to inspire the Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: shapes and things. Lori Snyder: Right. Geraldine Montgomery: Is there a particular shape that you're interested in? Like does marketing have any research on does it need to be long? Does it need with Lori Snyder: Oh Geraldine Montgomery: a square Lori Snyder: you know like Geraldine Montgomery: thing Lori Snyder: in circular Geraldine Montgomery: wha Lori Snyder: in shape or Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah 'cause that will n help narrow down the choice of Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: Choice of material Geraldine Montgomery: Like fruit. Lori Snyder: yeah. 'Cause Geraldine Montgomery: I'm Jessica Macias: See Geraldine Montgomery: thinking Lori Snyder: I I Jessica Macias: I'm Geraldine Montgomery: fruits Lori Snyder: I Geraldine Montgomery: in Lori Snyder: was Geraldine Montgomery: my head, Lori Snyder: kinda Geraldine Montgomery: but that's Lori Snyder: thinking Geraldine Montgomery: tacky. Lori Snyder: about as well you know how you get these shock resistant mobile phones, and they're plastic but then also have like rubber on the outside, and it kinda feels it feels kind of warmer to the touch. It feels Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: a bit more comfortable, and maybe we could incorporate plastic and rubber into it. And then then we could have curved shapes, 'cause wood or titanium, yeah, it's gonna have to be boxy and rectangular and I think we might be moving away from that you know so um Well I'm do we really want it in like the shape of a lemon or Cheryl Robertson: No no no Lori Snyder: no I don't think we do either. Cheryl Robertson: not at all. It's more more just that we we think about like what it is we're trying to achieve, so and then we have one one sorta theme that we stick with. Do you Lori Snyder: Okay Cheryl Robertson: know what I mean? Lori Snyder: right well um so thoughts about the actual shape of the thing. Jessica Macias: I'd quite like a sort of uh snowman type shape. Lori Snyder: A snowman shape? Jessica Macias: Um so a p sort of larger bit sits in your hand, Lori Snyder: Uh-huh. Jessica Macias: and then you got maybe another bubble at the top for just any other function you need. Lori Snyder: That's quite Cheryl Robertson: Right, Lori Snyder: a distinctive shape, that Cheryl Robertson: sure. Lori Snyder: would be good wouldn't it. Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: Yeah so yeah should we go with that? Cheryl Robertson: Um can we yeah like to and wha like do you have a Lori Snyder: Do you wanna draw Cheryl Robertson: Can you Lori Snyder: it on Cheryl Robertson: like Lori Snyder: the board? Cheryl Robertson: yeah just t we can visualize it. Jessica Macias: Um something like that um you got two groups there um maybe it could fold up and you get a third group inside Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: Ooh Jessica Macias: or Lori Snyder: that'd be good. Jessica Macias: uh you have volume controls about there. Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: Yep. Lori Snyder: So call it the snowman-shape trademark. Yeah that's cool. Um and I mean colour-wise what does everybody think? I think it is quite important to get yellow in there somewhere. I mean do you want the whole thing yellow, maybe like yellow and white do you want Cheryl Robertson: Mm. Lori Snyder: something Jessica Macias: So I reckon it'd look quite nice if we just had um this here, had a sorta background yellow, Lori Snyder: Uh-huh. Jessica Macias: and then have sort of a nice bold colour for the buttons. Lori Snyder: Okay cool. Um and also I mean how are we going to incorporate the slogan in? The fact that it talks to you, I mean it might be quite cool if when you first start using it it says, what is it, putting fashion into electronics or something, I dunno. Or when you like or if you turn it off or something if Jessica Macias: I think Lori Snyder: it Jessica Macias: that Lori Snyder: can Jessica Macias: might Lori Snyder: speak Jessica Macias: scare Cheryl Robertson. Lori Snyder: if it could actually say the slogan it might be a bit more powerful than just having it written on it somewhere. I d I d any thoughts on that at all? Jessica Macias: I think that'd probably scare Cheryl Robertson. You turn it on your control possessed s. Lori Snyder: I know. Um unless an a I mean if you also would that work if we wanted to incorporate um an L_C_D_ display, where would we put that? Would we put that on the inside or Jessica Macias: Um Geraldine Montgomery: Do we need an L_C_D_ display? What what's the functionality Lori Snyder: It's Geraldine Montgomery: of Lori Snyder: bound Geraldine Montgomery: that? Lori Snyder: to increase the cost of it a lot, I Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah but the Lori Snyder: would've Geraldine Montgomery: question Lori Snyder: thought. Geraldine Montgomery: is what Cheryl Robertson: What would Geraldine Montgomery: are Cheryl Robertson: it Geraldine Montgomery: we Cheryl Robertson: achieve? Geraldine Montgomery: using it what would we what would we achieve from it? Putting Cheryl Robertson: Well Geraldine Montgomery: in lights is cheap but putting in an L_C_D_ panel Cheryl Robertson: L_C_ Geraldine Montgomery: just Cheryl Robertson: well Geraldine Montgomery: to make it glow is Cheryl Robertson: I'd Geraldine Montgomery: a bit Cheryl Robertson: when Geraldine Montgomery: of Cheryl Robertson: you used Geraldine Montgomery: a Cheryl Robertson: to mention the L_C_D_ I'd think I wonder what that would be about. And the th the thing I could see it helping with would be if it was somehow connected with um listings. So as Lori Snyder: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: you scroll through, 'cause we said we might have a jog dial, so Geraldine Montgomery: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: as you scroll through your stations you can y it actually tells you what it is. Geraldine Montgomery: I think that will be a problem because we don't have an input device to get the listings into Cheryl Robertson: Right, Geraldine Montgomery: it, Cheryl Robertson: okay. Geraldine Montgomery: so Lori Snyder: Mm Geraldine Montgomery: um Lori Snyder: oh Geraldine Montgomery: it's Lori Snyder: yeah Geraldine Montgomery: a bit Lori Snyder: that's Geraldine Montgomery: nuts Lori Snyder: true. Geraldine Montgomery: to get the Lori Snyder: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: Monday Tuesday Lori Snyder: So Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: Wednesday Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Lori Snyder: so Geraldine Montgomery: you Lori Snyder: no Geraldine Montgomery: know. Lori Snyder: need for an L_C_D_ display? Geraldine Montgomery: Um I I'm not saying there's no need for an L_C_D_ display, but um Lori Snyder: I think that would Geraldine Montgomery: it's Lori Snyder: make it very Geraldine Montgomery: what's Lori Snyder: complex. Geraldine Montgomery: what what would it tell the user, 'cause the L_C_D_ tends to be an output as Lori Snyder: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: uh as opposed to an input so Lori Snyder: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: um does the remote control need to talk back to the Cheryl Robertson: Mm Geraldine Montgomery: user? Cheryl Robertson: not real Geraldine Montgomery: We have the option of the speaker as well the sa the same thing goes for the speaker, is there a need for the remote control to Lori Snyder: I Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Lori Snyder: don't know if there is Geraldine Montgomery: to Lori Snyder: really, Geraldine Montgomery: talk back? Jessica Macias: Nah. Lori Snyder: no um Geraldine Montgomery: Um Lori Snyder: I would say no need for a talk-back. Uh does anybody disagree with that? Cheryl Robertson: No. Geraldine Montgomery: You could Lori Snyder: No? Geraldine Montgomery: put a game on it. Lori Snyder: Easy. Geraldine Montgomery: When the T_V_ dies you can play with the remote control. Cheryl Robertson: Mm Lori Snyder: Okay Cheryl Robertson: mm. Lori Snyder: um right so you're gonna have the three different sets of of functionalities, um I mean do you wanna group them into s head of the snowman, body of the snowman, inside of the snowman, is that what you're thinking? Jessica Macias: Um well I think the advanced ones the the ones you don't usually use could be hid inside. Lori Snyder: Okay. Jessica Macias: B um I think the we had were fairly basic ones, they'd have to go on the the front somewhere. Lori Snyder: Okay right um what else do you need to talk about? Cheryl Robertson: Well i Geraldine Montgomery: Where Cheryl Robertson: I was Geraldine Montgomery: would Cheryl Robertson: just Geraldine Montgomery: you physically position the buttons? Um I think that that has some impact on Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: on on many things. Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Jessica Macias: Um Geraldine Montgomery: Um maybe you wanna draw onto the Lori Snyder: So I'm just gonna um pop this in here 'cause I have a slide about decision making Geraldine Montgomery: Yep. Lori Snyder: which I'd forgotten about. Lori Snyder: Oh sh God we've got five minutes um okay uh back we go. Um energy what do you think that's suggesting we're how we're powering the thing? I really like the idea of this kinetic thing where you'd have the back-up of the battery, Cheryl Robertson: Yeah, Lori Snyder: but have Cheryl Robertson: sure. Lori Snyder: have kinetic power, Cheryl Robertson: Um Lori Snyder: I mean what does Cheryl Robertson: I've Lori Snyder: anybody Cheryl Robertson: had Lori Snyder: think Cheryl Robertson: kinetic Lori Snyder: about that? Cheryl Robertson: things before, and the the the one issue we need to keep in mind with them is that you're committing the user to moving it, and Geraldine Montgomery: No, like I said we Cheryl Robertson: watches Geraldine Montgomery: have a h Cheryl Robertson: yeah Geraldine Montgomery: hybrid kind of thing, Cheryl Robertson: Sure, Geraldine Montgomery: so it's not gonna Cheryl Robertson: okay, Geraldine Montgomery: charge the battery, Cheryl Robertson: right, okay. Geraldine Montgomery: it's just Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: Support for it. I mean Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: just it's just worth pointing out because like I've I've known I've known people to have kinetic watches that they wear all the time, Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: and it's just like magic because it's always powered and there's no battery. I've also known people to have things like like a jewellery watch they wear from time to time, and they eventually just say it's just too much of a nuisance because Lori Snyder: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: I don't wear Geraldine Montgomery: Yep. Cheryl Robertson: it all the time. Like remote control is similar, you're away on vacation, I dunno whatever, you something, Lori Snyder: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: and it just starts to get worn down. So Lori Snyder: Well Cheryl Robertson: we should Lori Snyder: I suppose that if Cheryl Robertson: think Lori Snyder: you're Cheryl Robertson: about Lori Snyder: if you're away and you're not using it, then you're not using any power either. So you'd have the battery as the kind of to keep it ticking over Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: idea I'm really sorry we're gonna have to wrap up quite quickly, we don't have as much time as I thought. Cheryl Robertson: Yep. Lori Snyder: Um so I think that's what energy is referring to here. Chip on print, is that that's an industrial design thing, is it David? Geraldine Montgomery: Yes yes. Lori Snyder: Okay um as for the case, kind of discussed that Cheryl Robertson: And this size here, I'd suggest this be small, Lori Snyder: Yeah I Cheryl Robertson: like Lori Snyder: know we're gonna Cheryl Robertson: quite Lori Snyder: have like Cheryl Robertson: small. Lori Snyder: rubber buttons that feel kind of Jessica Macias: Yeah Lori Snyder: Okay. Jessica Macias: I think so yeah. Cheryl Robertson: Um just a a lot of the um I mean one of the things running through my mind right now, I realise we're being efficient to wrap up the meeting Lori Snyder: Mm-hmm. Cheryl Robertson: and have lots of decisions made, um but we are leaning quite a bit to the side of being low-tech, rubber buttons plastic frame, it's almost like we're reproducing the same old remote control Lori Snyder: Mm 'kay. Cheryl Robertson: that's out there. Should we think about how we are actually getting this high-tech user friendly uh um theme like what is it that we're u we're using to to achieve those goals? Like Lori Snyder: Could have things like backlighting the buttons and Cheryl Robertson: Okay Lori Snyder: stuff like Cheryl Robertson: so Lori Snyder: that. Cheryl Robertson: so backlighting, Geraldine Montgomery: Or even Cheryl Robertson: that Geraldine Montgomery: a Cheryl Robertson: would Geraldine Montgomery: clear Cheryl Robertson: be good. Geraldine Montgomery: case. Um Cheryl Robertson: Yeah clear, that'd be Geraldine Montgomery: you Lori Snyder: Aye Geraldine Montgomery: know a Lori Snyder: that Geraldine Montgomery: a Lori Snyder: would be Geraldine Montgomery: glowing Lori Snyder: a Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: good idea. Geraldine Montgomery: a a glowing yellow type case where the yellow is showable, but in the dark it sort of, it's alive. Cheryl Robertson: Yeah sure. Geraldine Montgomery: Um in Lori Snyder: S Geraldine Montgomery: in a Lori Snyder: so Geraldine Montgomery: slight Lori Snyder: like Geraldine Montgomery: subtle Cheryl Robertson: Yeah that'd Geraldine Montgomery: way. Cheryl Robertson: be really Lori Snyder: cur Cheryl Robertson: good. Lori Snyder: slightly transparent Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah Lori Snyder: case, so Geraldine Montgomery: yeah. Lori Snyder: it's yellow, Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: like tinted yellow, but Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah. Lori Snyder: you can maybe see through it. Is that what Geraldine Montgomery: Or Lori Snyder: you mean? Geraldine Montgomery: or there might be a light running through it like a mouse. Cheryl Robertson: Sure. Geraldine Montgomery: You know you have cordless mice and they don't eat that much power Cheryl Robertson: Yeah, Geraldine Montgomery: right. So the power the Cheryl Robertson: yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: battery in that sense, maybe Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: you have one or two stratig strategically placed lights Cheryl Robertson: Sure. Geraldine Montgomery: that sort of Cheryl Robertson: Yeah they they emanate a light through it. Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: but because the case is transparent Lori Snyder: Lights. Geraldine Montgomery: so it Cheryl Robertson: 'Kay. Geraldine Montgomery: gives it a little bit of a glow, Cheryl Robertson: Yeah, mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: doesn't Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: make it freaky. Cheryl Robertson: Um and then the other thing that we we're s we've committed ourselves to achieving is simplicity, and so I'm thinking maybe should we try and think about having something like um some kind of an innovative concept about how the um the volume and the channels are controlled, 'cause that's the main thing people will f wanna Lori Snyder: Mm. Cheryl Robertson: do. Could we use like a jog dial, like a nice just sort of round, somewhere on it where you just Geraldine Montgomery: The question Cheryl Robertson: roll Geraldine Montgomery: is Cheryl Robertson: it? Geraldine Montgomery: when you're rolling Cheryl Robertson: Or Geraldine Montgomery: it, how do you wanna roll it? Do you want 'em to roll it like that? Do you want 'em to roll it like that? 'Cause in a mouse your hand's in a position Jessica Macias: Mm. Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: to roll it, whereas the other thing about having it jog dial this way, it tends to get moved accidentally. Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Lori Snyder: Yeah Cheryl Robertson: Well Lori Snyder: if Cheryl Robertson: why Lori Snyder: you Cheryl Robertson: don't we Lori Snyder: are Cheryl Robertson: do Lori Snyder: holding Cheryl Robertson: it like Lori Snyder: it Cheryl Robertson: a Lori Snyder: in your Cheryl Robertson: mouse Lori Snyder: hand Cheryl Robertson: then? Lori Snyder: you could you could do that, couldn't you? If you're holding it in your hand Geraldine Montgomery: That's Lori Snyder: you could Geraldine Montgomery: a very unnatural motion Lori Snyder: Do you think? Geraldine Montgomery: to yeah. Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: Can you imagine you have to scroll a lot. Um it might work for volume, Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: and maybe some of the brightness controls and stuff like that, Lori Snyder: Mm. Geraldine Montgomery: but not for channels right. If you have a Telewest box you've got like, you Cheryl Robertson: Mm-hmm. Geraldine Montgomery: don't have to buy all the channels, you've about fifty channels, can you imagine Lori Snyder: Yeah Geraldine Montgomery: trying Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: to. Lori Snyder: okay okay Cheryl Robertson: Yeah, Geraldine Montgomery: Um Cheryl Robertson: sure. Lori Snyder: um Geraldine Montgomery: and I don't think having that you know too quick too Cheryl Robertson: Mm. Geraldine Montgomery: slow kin Jessica Macias: Well, Geraldine Montgomery: it's confusing Jessica Macias: but Geraldine Montgomery: to the Jessica Macias: then Geraldine Montgomery: I dunno. Jessica Macias: for um for skipping a large amount of channels you do have to uh to skip the channel button, the Lori Snyder: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: But Jessica Macias: number Geraldine Montgomery: users Jessica Macias: part. Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: tend to tend to want to use that and once they lose out on the user experience they're like Lori Snyder: Okay. Jessica Macias: Uh but Geraldine Montgomery: Because that's becomes the most accessible Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: thing Cheryl Robertson: But that's Geraldine Montgomery: in front Cheryl Robertson: not a bad Geraldine Montgomery: of Cheryl Robertson: thing is it? Lori Snyder: Just Cheryl Robertson: Because when you think about it, the alternative is to go push Jessica Macias: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: the button. Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: Jog dials are much easier than that. Lori Snyder: Okay Cheryl Robertson: You Lori Snyder: um Cheryl Robertson: just roll. Lori Snyder: right well wouldn't it we do need to make a decision on whether we want to incorporate a jog dial in nice and quickly. Um I'm all for them actually, I think they're quite you Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: know th very quick to m to use. Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: So does anybody oppose the idea of of incorporating one into the design at all? No. And the other thing was um can we think of any way of getting the slogan into this thing? Cheryl Robertson: Yeah like I mean if we if if we keep coming back to this board here, Lori Snyder: Uh-huh. Cheryl Robertson: I wouldn't be surprised if we could take this idea, imagine that, I dunno, that it's within the shape of the hand, it's quite small Lori Snyder: Uh-huh ooh okay, Cheryl Robertson: I dunno. Lori Snyder: we really gotta wrap up so Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: yeah. Cheryl Robertson: It's small, and that we've got like the the l slogan somewhere like on the casing Lori Snyder: Okay Cheryl Robertson: at the side, Lori Snyder: well if we can do Cheryl Robertson: and that Lori Snyder: that, great. Cheryl Robertson: yeah Lori Snyder: Yeah okay. Cheryl Robertson: well I mean isn't that what we just h said said we s just have to decide now? Lori Snyder: Yeah let's let's try and get the slogan on there Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: um, and Cheryl Robertson: And then Geraldine Montgomery: So Cheryl Robertson: like Geraldine Montgomery: you Cheryl Robertson: a Geraldine Montgomery: wanna Cheryl Robertson: jo Geraldine Montgomery: expand the shape of the Cheryl Robertson: And then like a jog dial somewhere that fits in with the shape of it like I dunno like here, in with Geraldine Montgomery: That Cheryl Robertson: the Geraldine Montgomery: that might have one problem in terms of um Cheryl Robertson: It would get bumped, it's doesn't Geraldine Montgomery: in terms Cheryl Robertson: really fit Geraldine Montgomery: of Cheryl Robertson: with your Geraldine Montgomery: whether Cheryl Robertson: hand. Geraldine Montgomery: you're left handed or you're right handed Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: you Lori Snyder: Mm. Geraldine Montgomery: might be locking yourself in. Cheryl Robertson: Or maybe Jessica Macias: Mm. Cheryl Robertson: just fit Geraldine Montgomery: Could Cheryl Robertson: it Geraldine Montgomery: I just Cheryl Robertson: in like down the middle Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: here. Geraldine Montgomery: could I just jump in and suggest something Lori Snyder: Right Cheryl Robertson: A Geraldine Montgomery: quickly? Lori Snyder: I'm Cheryl Robertson: jog Lori Snyder: gonna have Cheryl Robertson: di Lori Snyder: to I'm really gonna have to hurry you on here 'cause we're we're Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: actually over time. Cheryl Robertson: It's kind Lori Snyder: Um Cheryl Robertson: of Lori Snyder: is there anything Cheryl Robertson: yeah Lori Snyder: anybody's unsure about? Just for in closing just the next meeting's gonna be in thirty minutes, and so you can see in the screen here what each of you are gonna hopefully be doing, Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Lori Snyder: uh I know that the designers are gonna be working with Play-doh on that. So um that'll Cheryl Robertson: Huh. Lori Snyder: be that'll be good. Um and I'll get the the minutes up as soon as possible. Anything at all you think we haven't discussed that we need to? Is everybody Cheryl Robertson: Um Lori Snyder: kind of happy about Geraldine Montgomery: Um Lori Snyder: what they're gonna be doing? Geraldine Montgomery: I think one thing would be the jog dial 'cause that's gonna have quite a big impact on Cheryl Robertson: Yeah I think Geraldine Montgomery: the thing Cheryl Robertson: the jog Geraldine Montgomery: um Cheryl Robertson: dial, you know it just after you drew that, what if it was flat and you just Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah Cheryl Robertson: spun Geraldine Montgomery: that's what Cheryl Robertson: it, Geraldine Montgomery: I was thinking Cheryl Robertson: that'd be great. Geraldine Montgomery: the a slide, because Cheryl Robertson: Yeah. Geraldine Montgomery: then you you don't have to put the hand. Cheryl Robertson: Yep. Geraldine Montgomery: I think incorporating a logo is quite straight forward. There's Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: lots of space for it um Lori Snyder: That's kind of a design thing that you guys can Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah Lori Snyder: can discuss, Geraldine Montgomery: but it's Lori Snyder: yeah. Cheryl Robertson: Sure, Geraldine Montgomery: also a a marketing Cheryl Robertson: yeah, Geraldine Montgomery: and a function Cheryl Robertson: yeah Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: and materials we sorta said we'd do plastic and rubber, didn't Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: we, Lori Snyder: Yeah. Cheryl Robertson: and I think maybe we should try and stay away from just the big protruding rubber buttons, 'cause that'd just be so standard. Lori Snyder: To make something flush with the case? Cheryl Robertson: Something a bit more flush, yeah, Lori Snyder: Okay right. Cheryl Robertson: or maybe have rubber incorporated into the case as well, so Lori Snyder: Okay. Cheryl Robertson: that it has and also t plastic Lori Snyder: Sp kinda Cheryl Robertson: I've Lori Snyder: grippy? Cheryl Robertson: seen can get really textured, so you can get plastics that actually feel soft in your hand. Geraldine Montgomery: Feel like fruit. Lori Snyder: Okay. Geraldine Montgomery: Fruits kids. Cheryl Robertson: They feel kind of like um, you get pens Geraldine Montgomery: No like Cheryl Robertson: now and then that you'd think that Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah Cheryl Robertson: they were Geraldine Montgomery: yeah. Cheryl Robertson: rubber but they're not, they're actually just plastic that's textured, kind Geraldine Montgomery: Yeah Cheryl Robertson: of a Geraldine Montgomery: yeah Cheryl Robertson: little Geraldine Montgomery: kinda Cheryl Robertson: bit Lori Snyder: Okay Cheryl Robertson: like Geraldine Montgomery: like that yeah. Lori Snyder: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to call this to a close 'cause we're way over time. So um that's really good, like we've s had much to talk about that um pretty much run Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: out of time to do so. So off Cheryl Robertson: Okay. Lori Snyder: you go and design stuff wooh. Geraldine Montgomery: Play-doh time. Lori Snyder: Yeah quite jealous actually. Geraldine Montgomery: You got to choose first. No, we're kidding. Okay, can I just swipe your power cable, I don't think it matters. Okay lemme okay, I'm gonna pull everybody out first and then put in whoever needs to be left. It's you. Geraldine Montgomery: Argh. This is a real hassle and a oops. I'm gonna take the microphones, 'cause it's too lazy t take them off again. Cool.

Lori Snyder recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Cheryl Robertson discussed his findings from trend watching reports, stressing the need for a product that has a fancy look and feel, is technologically innovative, is easy to use, and incorporates some aspect of fruit and vegetables in its design. The interface specialist presented research on the appearance of current remotes, concluding that current remotes are generally unappealing in terms of look and usability. The interface specialist presented ideas on how to remedy the unappealing aspects of current remotes in the team's design and also how to incorporate the corporate color scheme into the design. Geraldine Montgomery presented options for materials, components, and batteries and discussed the restrictions involved in using certain materials. The team then discussed options for the shape and color scheme of the remote, as well as what components, batteries, and materials to use.

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Barbara Allen: Okay we all all set? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design, the user interface design, and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control, like absolute final decision, um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap, we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display, no need for talk-back, it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons, maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial, and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed? Debra Risner: No. Barbara Allen: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead. Jennifer Leja: Uh-oh. This is it? Debra Risner: Ninja Homer, made in Japan. Jennifer Leja: Um, a few changes we've made. Um, Barbara Allen: Okay. Jennifer Leja: well look at the expense sheet, and uh Barbara Allen: Mm. Jennifer Leja: it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside, Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Leja: so instead we've um this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen, um just a a very very basic one, very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm 'kay. Debra Risner: And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions? So the advanced functions are still hidden from you, but they're hidden in the sense that um they're not in use. Ruth Weisgerber: Where are they? Debra Risner: Um they're in the L_C_D_ panel and the jog-dial? Ruth Weisgerber: Ah, right. Debra Risner: Okay Ruth Weisgerber: Great. Debra Risner: 'cause Barbara Allen: So w what kind of thing uh is gonna be Debra Risner: The L_C_D_ panel just displays um functionally what you're doing. If you're using Ruth Weisgerber: Right. Debra Risner: an advanced function right, like um c brightness, contrast, whatever, Ruth Weisgerber: Okay. Debra Risner: it will just say You know it's like only has four columns, it's a very simple L_C_D_ like, Ruth Weisgerber: Right. Debra Risner: whereas many the minimum amount we need that the user will automatically know like this is brightness or this is contrast. Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Ruth Weisgerber: Right, Barbara Allen: Okay cool. Debra Risner: It might even Ruth Weisgerber: 'kay. Debra Risner: be one, a bit more complex L_C_D_ panel with Ruth Weisgerber: Okay. Debra Risner: pictures like maybe the sun or the, you know, the the symbols of the various Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Barbara Allen: Oh Debra Risner: functions. Barbara Allen: right okay. Ruth Weisgerber: and what is Barbara Allen: Cool. Ruth Weisgerber: this here? Debra Risner: That's a number pad. Ruth Weisgerber: Okay so the number pad is Barbara Allen: Where Ruth Weisgerber: 'Kay, Barbara Allen: are we gonna Ruth Weisgerber: great. Barbara Allen: have the slogan? Debra Risner: Um Jennifer Leja: You know, just like Debra Risner: they're al along Jennifer Leja: right Debra Risner: this Jennifer Leja: inside Debra Risner: Yeah. Jennifer Leja: there. Barbara Allen: Okay cool. Debra Risner: You have this space here, and then you have this thing on the side as well, or at the bottom. Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: 'Cause slogans are usually quite small, right, they're not like Ruth Weisgerber: Mm. Debra Risner: huge so they're s Ruth Weisgerber: Yep. Debra Risner: Say a button's Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Looks Debra Risner: about Ruth Weisgerber: good. Debra Risner: say a button's about this size, right, Ruth Weisgerber: Yep. Debra Risner: so you would still have plenty Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: of space for a slogan, say even Barbara Allen: So Debra Risner: for that. Barbara Allen: if this isn't to scale, what kind of dimensions are you thinking about here? Jennifer Leja: Well we want the other buttons to be big enough to push easily Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Leja: with a finger so we reckon maybe that'll be about the same size as the palm Ruth Weisgerber: Okay. Jennifer Leja: of your hand. Debra Risner: Yep so that would be about a centimetre for a button, so one two three four centimetres. Plus maybe half Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: o five Ruth Weisgerber: About nine Debra Risner: six Ruth Weisgerber: in total. Barbara Allen: Six, Debra Risner: seven Barbara Allen: seven, Debra Risner: eight, Barbara Allen: eight, nine, ten. Debra Risner: about Barbara Allen: So Debra Risner: yeah nine total. Barbara Allen: we're Ruth Weisgerber: That Barbara Allen: talking Ruth Weisgerber: sounds Barbara Allen: about Ruth Weisgerber: good. Barbara Allen: ten Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: centimetres. That would be Ruth Weisgerber: Yep. Barbara Allen: good. So Debra Risner: Nine, Barbara Allen: ten Debra Risner: ten. Barbara Allen: centimetres in height. Debra Risner: Yep. Barbara Allen: Okay um. Ruth Weisgerber: That'd be good, in fact a pen is about ten centimetres usually, so that would be that sounds a really good size Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: if, you see it there. Barbara Allen: That's great and it's very bright as well. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm. Barbara Allen: So um okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Is it possible uh I'm just gonna bring up the idea of colours. Is these are these the colours that of production, Jennifer Leja: Well I'm Ruth Weisgerber: or is this just what we had available? Jennifer Leja: We're gonna have again the the sort of the foggy um yellow from last time that lit up when you pushed the button. Ruth Weisgerber: Right. Jennifer Leja: Um Barbara Allen: Okay so just could you just list all the things that it does s so I can write them in the report. Jennifer Leja: But um this button um, because it's red it's sort of very prominent, we're gonna use it as uh it can be the power button if you hold it for maybe two seconds it'll Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Leja: send a stand-by signal. Um apart from Debra Risner: Excuse Jennifer Leja: that Debra Risner: Ruth Weisgerber. Jennifer Leja: it's gonna Debra Risner: Sure. Jennifer Leja: be used as a confirm button for the L_C_D_ screen Barbara Allen: Okay. Jennifer Leja: and you use this as a jog-dial. Barbara Allen: Okay so that's like an okay button, right. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: Oh we've discussed Jennifer Leja: I don't Debra Risner: how Jennifer Leja: know. Debra Risner: h high it is, but how wide is it? Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: How high is it? Debra Risner: No as in the height, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: but what about the width? Jennifer Leja: Didn't Barbara Allen: Oh Jennifer Leja: put five Barbara Allen: oh Jennifer Leja: centimetres. Barbara Allen: like depth of the actual Debra Risner: Do we need five? Barbara Allen: thing. Debra Risner: I don't think Jennifer Leja: Um. Debra Risner: five is be about th three and a half. Ruth Weisgerber: Okay. Jennifer Leja: Something Barbara Allen: Oh is this Jennifer Leja: by Barbara Allen: k Jennifer Leja: there. Barbara Allen: to get an idea of scale Debra Risner: Yeah, Barbara Allen: from your Ruth Weisgerber: Sure. Barbara Allen: from your Debra Risner: yeah. Barbara Allen: thing there okay. So you can power on and off, Ruth Weisgerber: Three and Barbara Allen: what else Ruth Weisgerber: a half. Barbara Allen: can you do? Jennifer Leja: Um you can skip straight to a channel using these buttons. Barbara Allen: Okay. Jennifer Leja: Um, were gonna have the volume control here, but um because we've got the the L_C_D_ and the jog-dial we just thought we'd um use that as the volume. Barbara Allen: Okay jog-dial for volume. And what Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: else do you do with the jog-dial? Jennifer Leja: Um you can use it for um more advanced functions like contrast, colour and Barbara Allen: Contrast, brightness, Jennifer Leja: Um yeah. Barbara Allen: yeah, and anything else? Jennifer Leja: Um just whatever else we wanted to include as the advanced functions, um we didn't actually go through and specify the Barbara Allen: Well of the designers what are they? Jennifer Leja: Uh what can a T_V_ do? Debra Risner: Okay things like um brightness, contrast, Barbara Allen: Uh-huh. Debra Risner: um maybe tuning the channels. Barbara Allen: Okay channel tuning. Debra Risner: Um. Barbara Allen: That's a good one. Debra Risner: What else? Um the various inputs. Are you having a V_C_R_, are you Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Debra Risner: having Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm. Debra Risner: you know which input do you have? Barbara Allen: Okay auxiliary Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, probably Barbara Allen: inputs. Debra Risner: Um. Ruth Weisgerber: colour or sharpness. Debra Risner: Yep, colour, sharpness. Barbara Allen: Sharpness. Debra Risner: Um a lot of these things will have to be um free and open for users to define them. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: Okay what about uh sound settings? Uh d can you change any of those at all? Ruth Weisgerber: Audio. Debra Risner: Audio, we have like Jennifer Leja: Um. Debra Risner: your basic y your base, your mid-range, your high range. Um. Jennifer Leja: the the balance hmm. Debra Risner: Yep, left-right balance, um maybe even pre-programmed sound modes, like Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: um the user could determine like a series of sound modes, and then Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: what could happen would be um when you click on that then it would go to that setting. Barbara Allen: Okay, Ruth Weisgerber: Mm 'kay. Debra Risner: Yeah. Barbara Allen: is there anything else at all it can do? That 'cause that's that's fine. Just need to know so I can write it down. Okay um right I g I guess that's it, so we can now um We can now have a little look at the the Excel sheet and price listing, and see if we need to Jennifer Leja: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: um if we need to rethink anything at all. So um for this first part here power-wise, have we Debra Risner: The Barbara Allen: got Debra Risner: battery. Barbara Allen: battery? Do we have kinetic as well? Debra Risner: No. Barbara Allen: No. Okay, Debra Risner: Um. Barbara Allen: just battery. Debra Risner: We need an Barbara Allen: And that's because of cost restraints Debra Risner: Yep. Barbara Allen: is it? Jennifer Leja: Yeah. Barbara Allen: Okay um Debra Risner: Yeah advanced Barbara Allen: what about the Debra Risner: chip. Barbara Allen: electronics here? Debra Risner: We Barbara Allen: Advanced Debra Risner: need an advanced Barbara Allen: chip. Debra Risner: chip I think, yep. Let Ruth Weisgerber just confirm that. Yes I think so. Yep. Barbara Allen: Okay um the case, what does it mean by single and double, do you know? Jennifer Leja: Um I think single would just be sort of one sort of oval whereas double is this sort of thing. Debra Risner: Yeah. Barbara Allen: So we want double-curved? Debra Risner: Yep. Barbara Allen: Okay. Um. Debra Risner: Plastic. Barbara Allen: Is there any rubber at all in the buttons Debra Risner: I think we're Barbara Allen: or any Debra Risner: gonna have to skip the rubber. Barbara Allen: Okay, Debra Risner: Um. Barbara Allen: um and we wanted special colours didn't Debra Risner: Yep. Barbara Allen: we? So I'll have to put that Oh no wait we ho how many colours have we got there? Debra Risner: For the case itself, one colour. It's one special colour. Barbara Allen: Just one colour, okay. Debra Risner: 'Cause the case unit itself, the rest of our components Barbara Allen: Okay Debra Risner: go on top Ruth Weisgerber: Mm. Debra Risner: of it. Barbara Allen: so interface-wise, is it this third option we Debra Risner: Yes. Barbara Allen: have, the two of them there? Debra Risner: One and the L_C_ display. Barbara Allen: Okay and then buttons, Debra Risner: How many Barbara Allen: we have what, Jennifer Leja: Um we have Barbara Allen: two Jennifer Leja: um Barbara Allen: colours? Jennifer Leja: got some Ruth Weisgerber: Or even Jennifer Leja: push buttons Ruth Weisgerber: clear. Jennifer Leja: as well. Debra Risner: We've got push buttons as well. Barbara Allen: Like uh Jennifer Leja: 'Kay. Barbara Allen: oh wait so push button and integrated scroll wheel push okay. Jennifer Leja: So I reckon we've got one button for this thing 'cause it's just one big sheet of rubber. Barbara Allen: Uh-huh. Jennifer Leja: I'm not sure if that counts but Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: Okay let's just be safe and put like say four buttons for that one. Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: Okay um and maybe a special colour for the buttons, so maybe four again. Barbara Allen: Four. Jennifer Leja: You can see we're we're all very Barbara Allen: So Jennifer Leja: far Barbara Allen: w Jennifer Leja: beyond Barbara Allen: why Jennifer Leja: the Barbara Allen: are we arriving at the number four? Where does the number four come from? Debra Risner: 'Cause that's one button by its the complexity of twelve buttons. Barbara Allen: Okay right, so Debra Risner: So Barbara Allen: we're writing Debra Risner: we're Barbara Allen: down Debra Risner: just Barbara Allen: four. Debra Risner: estimating that yeah it would be less. Barbara Allen: Okay. How about these? Are we wanting them in Debra Risner: No. Barbara Allen: no they're just is Debra Risner: Yep. Barbara Allen: everything gonna be plastic? Debra Risner: Yep. Barbara Allen: Okay. So we're w w quite far over. Now we're gonna something's gonna have to go. Um we're at sixteen point eight and Ruth Weisgerber: Uh how mm-hmm how are we going to achieve this high-end product if Barbara Allen: Well we h something has to Ruth Weisgerber: We Barbara Allen: go Ruth Weisgerber: only have Barbara Allen: to the tune Ruth Weisgerber: very Barbara Allen: of Ruth Weisgerber: sparse Barbara Allen: two point t three Euro, so let Ruth Weisgerber see, what are we Ruth Weisgerber: Two Barbara Allen: I mean Ruth Weisgerber: point three? Four point three no? Barbara Allen: oh yes sorry, four point three. My maths is all out. Jennifer Leja: Well we could take out ones by making it single curved, just fill in those bits. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: And then where Debra Risner: How Ruth Weisgerber: is Debra Risner: much Ruth Weisgerber: the Debra Risner: would that save us? Barbara Allen: How much would that save Debra Risner: That Barbara Allen: us? Debra Risner: will only save Jennifer Leja: That Debra Risner: you one. Jennifer Leja: is one. Barbara Allen: One. Debra Risner: The other thing could be that um you could take away the L_C_D_ panel and the advanced chip together, um because when you do something on the T_V_, Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: the T_V_ responds and reacts as well, so the user could be looking at the T_V_ and pushing his thing Jennifer Leja: That's Debra Risner: so Jennifer Leja: fair Debra Risner: we Jennifer Leja: enough, Debra Risner: may Jennifer Leja: yeah. Debra Risner: not need to Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: so when we scroll we need just some way to Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: get the T_V_ to respond, Barbara Allen: Okay Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: so Debra Risner: which I think is a technically doable thing so Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: So w what's our reviewed suggestion? Um take away the L_C_ display? Debra Risner: Yep. And Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: the advanced chip goes away as well. Barbara Allen: To be replaced with a Debra Risner: Regular chip. Barbara Allen: regular chip. Debra Risner: Yep. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: So what that means is that Barbara Allen: And Debra Risner: um Barbara Allen: so we've got point three to get rid of. Um and we ha where are the four the four push buttons are where exactly now? Debra Risner: The twelve buttons that you see there. Barbara Allen: Twelve buttons. Jennifer Leja: That's um one piece of rubber but it's gonna have twelve button Barbara Allen: Yeah. Jennifer Leja: things underneath Debra Risner: Functionally Jennifer Leja: so Debra Risner: you're gonna have to intercept So four is a good estimate for Barbara Allen: Do you think? Debra Risner: Yeah, so you can't actually cut It's like three times the number of Barbara Allen: Like Debra Risner: buttons, Barbara Allen: is Debra Risner: four, eight, twelve. Barbara Allen: is that one big button or is it twelve buttons, how Debra Risner: It Barbara Allen: can it be something in between? Debra Risner: It needs to be more than one big button because if you open up your phone, underneath Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: there's actually Barbara Allen: Mm. Debra Risner: one button underneath, it's just that the panel itself is a single panel. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: Okay well we have point three to get rid of somewhere. Debra Risner: We just Barbara Allen: Mm. Debra Risner: report that it has to be over budget, or the colours, you Barbara Allen: No Debra Risner: could Barbara Allen: can Debra Risner: take away Barbara Allen: do. Debra Risner: s colours for th for the buttons. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah we could just go with Jennifer Leja: Yeah w Ruth Weisgerber: um Debra Risner: Normal coloured buttons. Barbara Allen: Well do you want colour differentiation here? Debra Risner: No Jennifer Leja: Um Debra Risner: that's not the button we're talking Barbara Allen: Oh yeah Debra Risner: about. Barbara Allen: sorry Debra Risner: That's Barbara Allen: yeah then. Debra Risner: the buttons only refer to the pad so Barbara Allen: Right so Debra Risner: Should we take that off uh? Barbara Allen: Ah. Debra Risner: Hey Barbara Allen: That's Debra Risner: it's back Barbara Allen: it. Debra Risner: to the original. Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Debra Risner: Um so then these just become normal coloured buttons, Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: so that might be some some way of cutting the cost. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm. Barbara Allen: Okay, ach that's a shame. Um right, so take away that completely? Ah. And now we're under budget. So we do have point five Euro to play with if we wanted. Um Jennifer Leja: So I reckon Ruth Weisgerber: How about with embossing the logo, isn't that going to cost us some money? Barbara Allen: Doesn't say so. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. That's Jennifer Leja: Reckon that Ruth Weisgerber: a freebie. Jennifer Leja: probably counts as a special form for the buttons. Debra Risner: Yeah. Barbara Allen: a good idea. Just one? Does that mean that one button has a special form or Jennifer Leja: I think there's just one button so Barbara Allen: Yeah Jennifer Leja: handy. Barbara Allen: okay. Well well there we go. So I'm just gonna have to redraw this now. So we're not gonna have the L_C_D_ anymore, and we'll just gonna have an on t on the T_V_ it'll show you what you're doing, which I think is fair enough, and so this is gonna be one big thing here. Um. Ruth Weisgerber: Was the goal in your in your prototype design that it be as low profile as possible? Debra Risner: What do you mean by Jennifer Leja: Yeah. Debra Risner: profile? Ruth Weisgerber: Sort of flat as possible. Debra Risner: No. Jennifer Leja: You see I envision it as being um quite deep sort of Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Jennifer Leja: deep enough to be comfy to hold in your hands Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah that's Jennifer Leja: rather Ruth Weisgerber: what I Jennifer Leja: than Ruth Weisgerber: was Jennifer Leja: being Ruth Weisgerber: thinking, Jennifer Leja: wide Ruth Weisgerber: to Jennifer Leja: and flat. Ruth Weisgerber: Sure, Debra Risner: We Ruth Weisgerber: okay. Debra Risner: didn't have enough Play-Doh to make it three Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah Debra Risner: D_. Ruth Weisgerber: alright yeah fair enough. Okay, just thought I'd ask. Debra Risner: So there's one more dimension to the thing Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: which we need to to add, and you might want to add in the report, height. Barbara Allen: Right okay. Debra Risner: Yeah. Barbara Allen: So just to well to be thorough then, width-wise we're looking at about what three centimetres or something? Debra Risner: Yeah. Barbara Allen: Okay and then so Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Barbara Allen: height-wise How how tall do you envisage it being? About Jennifer Leja: Yeah Barbara Allen: that Jennifer Leja: it works, Barbara Allen: big? Debra Risner: Two. Jennifer Leja: yeah. Barbara Allen: About two centimetres, okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Two's not very high at all though. Maybe Debra Risner: This Ruth Weisgerber: a bit Debra Risner: is Ruth Weisgerber: higher? Debra Risner: about this is about two. Slightly more than Jennifer Leja: See, Debra Risner: two, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: so Jennifer Leja: about that thick. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Maybe closer Barbara Allen: Ach, that Ruth Weisgerber: to Barbara Allen: is Ruth Weisgerber: three even Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: or two and a half. Barbara Allen: Okay we'll s we'll say two point five. Okay um so we have it within cost anyway. Um so yeah project evaluation is this point. Um. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: Right uh. Okay so can we close that? This is what it's the final spec that it's gonna be. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: Someone is gonna have to yeah that's fine that's fine. Ruth Weisgerber: Um it's probably just I dunno if it's worth getting into, but um just in in that we want this to be stylish, should we think a little bit more out of the box in terms of a button grid, because I've seen there's lots of devices out there that that instead of taking your standard nine nine square grid, and they have it sort of stylized or in different concept that that Debra Risner: I think that's something that's very hard to catch, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: so you you restrict the number of people who wanna try something. Ruth Weisgerber: Sure, okay. Debra Risner: The the look and the colour is something which is cool, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, alright. Debra Risner: but I think that there's also that factor of if it's too unfamiliar Ruth Weisgerber: Okay, Debra Risner: then Ruth Weisgerber: sure. Debra Risner: um because when you put Ruth Weisgerber: What about Debra Risner: it on the Ruth Weisgerber: button Debra Risner: shelf Ruth Weisgerber: shape? Square buttons? Debra Risner: Yeah button shape might be a good idea to change, Ruth Weisgerber: Okay. Debra Risner: rather than rather than positioning, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: 'cause I think positioning is Ruth Weisgerber: Sure. Debra Risner: we're kinda engrained into the Jennifer Leja: Yeah. Debra Risner: the telephone kind Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: of Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: pad. Barbara Allen: Right um. So at this point we uh, let Ruth Weisgerber see, discuss uh how satisfied we all are with um with these four points, with the room for creativity in the project, and leadership and teamwork, and the stuff we had around Ruth Weisgerber: Mm 'kay. Barbara Allen: us I guess. Um, let Ruth Weisgerber see uh Ruth Weisgerber: Do you want Ruth Weisgerber to d um Do you want Ruth Weisgerber to do my um design evaluation last? Debra Risner: Maybe Barbara Allen: Yeah I wasn't Debra Risner: we should Ruth Weisgerber: Or Barbara Allen: really Debra Risner: do the Barbara Allen: sure Debra Risner: design evaluation Barbara Allen: what that was Debra Risner: first. Barbara Allen: Yeah, Ruth Weisgerber: Evaluation. Barbara Allen: yeah go for that first. I wasn't entirely sure what uh Ruth Weisgerber: Okay. Barbara Allen: who was supposed to be doing that, but Ruth Weisgerber: Sure. Barbara Allen: y you go for it. Ruth Weisgerber: Um, alright so the way this works, I'm gonna need to plug into PowerPoint, Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: I'll try and do it as quick as possible. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Um, this is um I'll just go over your head if that's okay. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: I don't think you need the power, so Ruth Weisgerber: What's that? Debra Risner: No, that's okay that's okay. Ruth Weisgerber: I don't need the PowerPoint? Debra Risner: No, the power cord itself. Ruth Weisgerber: Oh course, Debra Risner: Yeah, Ruth Weisgerber: yeah that's Debra Risner: so Ruth Weisgerber: true. Debra Risner: then you have Ruth Weisgerber: Let Debra Risner: a Ruth Weisgerber: Ruth Weisgerber Debra Risner: bit Ruth Weisgerber: get Debra Risner: more Ruth Weisgerber: that. Debra Risner: freedom to Ruth Weisgerber: A bit more. Okay, Debra Risner: You you still have your blue Ruth Weisgerber: so Debra Risner: fingers. Ruth Weisgerber: what this is is a set-up for us to Jennifer Leja: Is it? Ruth Weisgerber: um Debra Risner: You Ruth Weisgerber: uh use Debra Risner: killed Ruth Weisgerber: a kind Debra Risner: a monster. Ruth Weisgerber: of a like a The idea is that I've set up I've reviewed all of the um the points of discussion from the beginning, and used that as a criteria of evaluation for the um uh for the current design uh th or the plan, and uh so we can review that. Uh I think it's gonna end up being sort of elementary because we're sort we're in n we're not gonna probably use it to change anything but Doesn't seem like it's going, does it? Barbara Allen: Oh there it is. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, okay great. Uh and I'm gonna write up our results on the board, so this'll be a way for us to go through and decide if we're um sort of review where we stand with it. Okay, so um So to sort of b bring together two things, sort of design goals and also the market research that we had, uh when we rate this, one is v high in in succeeding or fitting to our original aim and seven is low, okay. Barbara Allen: Mm 'kay. Ruth Weisgerber: So these i these i th are the and um we've been asked to uh to collectively rate this, so what we can do is try and just y work on a consensus system so we just come to an agreement. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Okay? So the first one uh, stylish look and feel. Debra Risner: I rate that pretty highly. Barbara Allen: Well yeah, Jennifer Leja: Yeah. Barbara Allen: I mean compared to most Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: remote controls you see that's pretty good. I dunno Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: like a six or something. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah Barbara Allen: What Ruth Weisgerber: um Barbara Allen: does anybody else think? Ruth Weisgerber: Ruth Weisgerber uh my only reservation with it was that we basically went with yellow because it's the company's colour, Barbara Allen: Mm. Ruth Weisgerber: and I don't know if yellow's gonna really be a hit. Barbara Allen: Mm. Ruth Weisgerber: But Barbara Allen: Okay. Jennifer Leja: I'm seeing five then. Ruth Weisgerber: What do you guys think? Barbara Allen: I would say five or six. Ruth Weisgerber: Okay. Barbara Allen: David? Debra Risner: Yep I'm fine with that. Ruth Weisgerber: Okay let's go with five then. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Fi oh uh just Debra Risner: It's Ruth Weisgerber: actually Debra Risner: one Ruth Weisgerber: the opposite. Debra Risner: to seven, right? Ruth Weisgerber: The Barbara Allen: Oh yes sorry Ruth Weisgerber: So it meant Barbara Allen: then, then I would say two Ruth Weisgerber: three, Barbara Allen: or three. Ruth Weisgerber: okay. Debra Risner: Wait, what's the scale, one to seven, Jennifer Leja: One's Debra Risner: right? Barbara Allen: Yeah. Jennifer Leja: high-ish Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Jennifer Leja: isn't it? Ruth Weisgerber: one is high. Jennifer Leja: Ah, okay so yeah, two or three. Ruth Weisgerber: 'Kay Debra Risner: Okay, it's Ruth Weisgerber: Let's Debra Risner: upside-down. Ruth Weisgerber: go with two point five then. Okay, um control high tech innovation. Barbara Allen: Well it Ruth Weisgerber: We Barbara Allen: has Ruth Weisgerber: had to Barbara Allen: the Ruth Weisgerber: remove Barbara Allen: wee jog-dial but Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, so we've had to remove a few of our features we Barbara Allen: Mm. Ruth Weisgerber: wanted, but jog-dial 's Barbara Allen: I'd Ruth Weisgerber: good. Debra Risner: Say Barbara Allen: go with Debra Risner: it's more Barbara Allen: three Jennifer Leja: Eight Barbara Allen: or Jennifer Leja: three. Barbara Allen: four, Debra Risner: medium, Barbara Allen: maybe three. Debra Risner: but going towards a little bit higher than medium Ruth Weisgerber: Okay, Debra Risner: kind of Barbara Allen: Yeah Debra Risner: thing. Barbara Allen: about Ruth Weisgerber: three? Barbara Allen: three, okay. Debra Risner: Yep. Ruth Weisgerber: Okay, um Style reflects a fruit inspired colour, design. I Debra Risner: Lemon. Ruth Weisgerber: shouldn't have said colour, but just Barbara Allen: Well that's Debra Risner: Okay, Barbara Allen: kind Debra Risner: the Barbara Allen: of Debra Risner: blue Jennifer Leja: Yeah. Debra Risner: the blue Ruth Weisgerber: Sorta. Debra Risner: colours and don't re don't actually represent the colour, except Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: for the b the the red button, they because for want of a Barbara Allen: But Ruth Weisgerber: Right. Barbara Allen: the yellow, I mean it could be Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Barbara Allen: a lemon Ruth Weisgerber: could Barbara Allen: yellow Ruth Weisgerber: be. Yeah. Barbara Allen: colour, Debra Risner: Yeah, the Barbara Allen: couldn't Debra Risner: the yellow Barbara Allen: it? Debra Risner: is more representative of the colour, but Ruth Weisgerber: Okay. Debra Risner: the Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: button itself, the blue can be anything else. Ruth Weisgerber: Okay so we'll go two. Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah? Okay, and um design is simple to use, simple in features. Barbara Allen: Well yeah, I mean it's really basic Ruth Weisgerber: F Barbara Allen: looking Ruth Weisgerber: f Barbara Allen: isn't it? I Ruth Weisgerber: yeah Barbara Allen: mean I'd give that nearly a one. Ruth Weisgerber: f fairly basic, you guys think? Jennifer Leja: Yeah one. Debra Risner: Yep, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, one? Debra Risner: that's Ruth Weisgerber: Okay. Debra Risner: fine. Ruth Weisgerber: Um, soft and spongy, have we achieved that? We've used mostly plastic in the end so it's going to be quite Jennifer Leja: Yeah I think Ruth Weisgerber: a bit Jennifer Leja: it's Ruth Weisgerber: of Jennifer Leja: about Ruth Weisgerber: a compromise Jennifer Leja: five. Ruth Weisgerber: for price. Five? Barbara Allen: Five? That's Jennifer Leja: Yeah Barbara Allen: really low. Well Jennifer Leja: well we have to use uh plastic so it's Barbara Allen: Yeah Jennifer Leja: probably Barbara Allen: I Ruth Weisgerber: That's Jennifer Leja: gonna Barbara Allen: suppose Jennifer Leja: be Barbara Allen: mm 'kay. Ruth Weisgerber: Um Debra Risner: Yeah, Ruth Weisgerber: could Debra Risner: company Ruth Weisgerber: we have Debra Risner: logo. Ruth Weisgerber: used an entirely rubber frame to it? Was that an option? Jennifer Leja: I think I'd probably Debra Risner: I think Jennifer Leja: increase Debra Risner: it'll Jennifer Leja: the cost. Debra Risner: be cost Jennifer Leja: We've only Ruth Weisgerber: It Debra Risner: prohibitive, Ruth Weisgerber: would Jennifer Leja: got Ruth Weisgerber: cost more than plastic. Jennifer Leja: like what, Debra Risner: yeah. Jennifer Leja: ten Ruth Weisgerber: Okay, Jennifer Leja: cents left Ruth Weisgerber: logo, Jennifer Leja: so Ruth Weisgerber: we've got it in there, haven't we? Debra Risner: Yep. Barbara Allen: Yep. Gonna have that on the side, aren't we, like there or something? Ruth Weisgerber: Huh. And um it's within budget, yep. It is, isn't it? Jennifer Leja: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: Okay, so we can say then that uh out of a possible or what would be our goal here? Barbara Allen: Out of forty nine, I guess. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, out of forty nine with with zero being the highest. We are at uh two, seven, eight, ten, fifteen point five. Barbara Allen: 'S pretty Ruth Weisgerber: So Barbara Allen: good. Ruth Weisgerber: it's pretty good. Translates to something like about approximately seventy two percent efficacy of our original goal. Right? Barbara Allen: Uh Ruth Weisgerber: I think Barbara Allen: yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: 'cause if you turn that into a hundred it would be about Barbara Allen: Twice that, Ruth Weisgerber: about thirty Barbara Allen: about thirty Ruth Weisgerber: one, Barbara Allen: one. Ruth Weisgerber: and then invert that, it's Barbara Allen: So yeah ab well yeah about sixty nine, seventy percent Ruth Weisgerber: Oh right, Barbara Allen: yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: about seventy, yeah seventy percent. Barbara Allen: It's pretty good. Ruth Weisgerber: Okay, good. That was just a little formality for us to go through. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Yep, oh hundred pound pen. Sorry alright. Barbara Allen: Nobody saw it, honestly. Ruth Weisgerber: No. Debra Risner: The cameras did. Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Barbara Allen: Is that you all have all finished, or Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah that's that's Ruth Weisgerber. I did have one other um one other frame I thought, I mean I I d not knowing how we would deal with this information, I thought okay in theory this kind of a process would be about refining our design, revisiting Barbara Allen: Uh-huh. Ruth Weisgerber: our original goals. It's not something I need to p push through, but I thought should we thinking more about the dimensions, um sort of like more of a three dimensional shapes as well as opposed to just that flat um Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Ruth Weisgerber: Could our design involve a series of colours so that it's more of like a line where we have like sort of the, Debra Risner: Yep. Ruth Weisgerber: I don't know like the harvest line or the vibrant, I dunno the Whatever just some theme and then we have different tones, lime green, lemon. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: It's just discussion. I mean obviously we can just abandon this, it's fine. I'm just thinking about what we originally set out to do. Um, Barbara Allen: Right. Ruth Weisgerber: yep so there. That's all. Barbara Allen: Okay, great um are you submitting the the um evaluation criteria or am I? I don't know what your instructions have been. Ruth Weisgerber: Um, I think to record it and uh I haven't been asked to submit it yet. Yeah. Barbara Allen: Okay, uh just wondering if I need to include it in the minutes, because if you're submitting it anyway Ruth Weisgerber: I Barbara Allen: then Ruth Weisgerber: will, yeah. Barbara Allen: Okay great. Debra Risner: It keeps getting too big. Barbara Allen: Cool. Um right, uh well next up then, because we've done finance, is the project evaluation. Debra Risner: 'Kay I'm I'm listening I'm just trying to incorporate the logo into the Barbara Allen: Oh right, Debra Risner: the Barbara Allen: okay. Debra Risner: thing, so I'm playing with the Play-Doh as well. Just in case you're wondering, Ruth Weisgerber: Huh. Debra Risner: why is he still playing with the Play-Doh? Debra Risner: Just about right L_E_G_O_ Lego. Jennifer Leja: My leg. Barbara Allen: Right, okay. Um well do you wanna um just individually say what you think about about these four points and or not those four points, my four points, sorry, forgotten that. You got a different uh Ruth Weisgerber: Yep. I like those printer cables that just have the two little butterfly clips Barbara Allen: Oh yeah, Ruth Weisgerber: like that. Barbara Allen: they're good Ruth Weisgerber: It's Barbara Allen: aren't Ruth Weisgerber: really Barbara Allen: they, yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: quick. Barbara Allen: Right Ruth Weisgerber: To use. Barbara Allen: okay, um yeah here we are. Uh as a note we'll do this alphabetically. Um do you wanna start Ruth Weisgerber: Sure, Barbara Allen: Andrew? Ruth Weisgerber: um so what is it you're asking of Ruth Weisgerber now? Barbara Allen: I don't know, just um your opinion on those four those four points really and how we Ruth Weisgerber: Or sort of our work Barbara Allen: used Ruth Weisgerber: on Barbara Allen: them. Ruth Weisgerber: setting this up. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Well, is it uh okay I'll just go through your system then. The the room uh is fairly institutional, but um the main thing is, I think um our use of this space is more just to report on things as opposed to be creative and constructive and it would probably help to um have l sort of a cumulative effect of we have ideas and we come back and then the ideas are still in discussion, you know, as Barbara Allen: Uh-huh. Ruth Weisgerber: in other words this this room is sort of a centre point of creativity, whereas in reality as we've gone through this, it's not really the centre point of creativity, it's more just a Barbara Allen: Well d do Ruth Weisgerber: d Barbara Allen: you feel Ruth Weisgerber: debating Barbara Allen: though that that you were able to have quite a lot of creative input into the Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Barbara Allen: thing? Ruth Weisgerber: yeah but that's just the thing is the quest in terms of the the first point there, the room, it feels as though the creativity goes on when we leave, and then we come here and then we kind of put out our ideas and then, you Barbara Allen: But Ruth Weisgerber: know. Barbara Allen: I don't I don't think it means the room as in this room. I think Ruth Weisgerber: Oh, Barbara Allen: it means like you Ruth Weisgerber: oh right right, oh Barbara Allen: know Ruth Weisgerber: right okay Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: room for creativ Oh right I just looked up and saw okay whiteboard, Barbara Allen: Room. Ruth Weisgerber: digital pens, the room. Barbara Allen: Oh yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: No, of course, yeah. Barbara Allen: Well I dunno do you th Ruth Weisgerber: Sorry. Barbara Allen: I think it means um Ruth Weisgerber: Huh. Barbara Allen: I think it means did you feel Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: you were able to give creative input so Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah I th okay on th um yeah dif answering the question uh in those terms I'd say that actually there's sort of a tease of creativity because we're asked to work through this, but actually the guidelines are fairly contrived in terms of Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Ruth Weisgerber: um okay fashion trends, say fruit and vegetable colour scheme, but then i then we're told okay use the co company Barbara Allen: Mm. Ruth Weisgerber: company colours. So what do we do. We're told okay um think in terms of style and look and feel and technology, but build something for twelve and a half pounds, Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: so actually the creativity was more more of like a um a f sort of a f formality then an actual Debra Risner: You Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: feel like you're caged within Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah Debra Risner: whatever Ruth Weisgerber: within the constraints Debra Risner: y It's Ruth Weisgerber: the Debra Risner: like a balloon in a cage, it can Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: only go so big and not hit the side. The Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Debra Risner: constraints Barbara Allen: Okay Ruth Weisgerber: yeah. Barbara Allen: uh Debra Risner: do come Barbara Allen: do Ruth Weisgerber: So Barbara Allen: you know Debra Risner: in Barbara Allen: what, Debra Risner: very fast. Barbara Allen: actually let's take each point and everybody discuss it, I think. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: Yeah. So still on the topic of room for creativity uh next up is Craig. Jennifer Leja: Um I agree with his point it's um it is quite a lot of fun t to go and then you have sort of hit the end then go right, gotta cut everything out 'cause we don't have enough money. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: Yep. Debra Risner: I think another point is that the meetings um are more brainstorming sessions than Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: meetings, so time is also a very s um strong factor, and structure. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: Because for a brainstorming meeting you want a structure that allows you to allows ideas to get tossed, Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Barbara Allen: Mm. Debra Risner: um Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm. Debra Risner: to be evaluated, and to be reviewed, and to get feedback and Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Debra Risner: come back. And Ruth Weisgerber: yeah. Debra Risner: I guess that point about the room not being r very friendly to that, I think Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: that's a very big thing, and I think the fact that we're wearing these things Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Debra Risner: restricts Ruth Weisgerber: sure. Debra Risner: I feel it 'cause I wear Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: m my glasses, right, and that but that irritates Ruth Weisgerber right Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: it it it does actually you know affect Ruth Weisgerber: New creativity. Debra Risner: how, w whether you feel comfortable to communicate. I feel like I'm hiding behind the equipment, Ruth Weisgerber: Yep. Debra Risner: rather than the equipment is helping Ruth Weisgerber, and Ruth Weisgerber: Right. Barbara Allen: So you Debra Risner: you Barbara Allen: think Debra Risner: know. Barbara Allen: a more relaxed atmosphere would be more kind of conducive Debra Risner: Not not so much Barbara Allen: to Debra Risner: an Barbara Allen: creative Debra Risner: atmosphere, Barbara Allen: thought Debra Risner: the atmosphere Barbara Allen: or Debra Risner: is very relaxed, but Barbara Allen: Yeah, Debra Risner: the Barbara Allen: but actual Debra Risner: the Barbara Allen: environment? Debra Risner: gear yeah you know that creates Ruth Weisgerber: Mm. Debra Risner: boundaries to that um Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: and Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: and the time the time given also Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: restricts Barbara Allen: Very good. Um what about leadership? I don't know if that means like, if I did a good job or something. I don't really know. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, well well I mean my sense on that is sort of what kind of guidance and direction, encouragement Barbara Allen: From like your personal coach person and stuff like that, do you think maybe? Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah from and you as well I think, just sort of acting as team leader. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Um yeah I think I think it's Debra Risner: Excuse Ruth Weisgerber: I think Debra Risner: Ruth Weisgerber. Ruth Weisgerber: it's good. I mean my personal views on on leadership is that effective effective leadership sort of um gives people a certain room for freedom and delegation, but then to come back with something that they take great ownership and Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Ruth Weisgerber: you know, innovative thought with. In in reality I think here the the different elements of leadership such as the the original b briefing and then the personal coach and the and then you know having having you with your the meeting agenda is actually quite a quite a quite a con confining framework to work within. And so it is leadership almost to the point of sort of disempowering the the the team member, Barbara Allen: Uh-huh, Ruth Weisgerber: so Barbara Allen: okay. Ruth Weisgerber: But it's not bad leadership, it's just sort of s fairly strong, you know. It turns it turns the individual into more of like a um sort of a predetermined mechanism, as opposed to a Barbara Allen: So you think maybe Ruth Weisgerber: sort of a free Barbara Allen: a little too controlling or Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, oh yeah, without Debra Risner: I think Ruth Weisgerber: without Debra Risner: controlling Ruth Weisgerber: a doubt. Debra Risner: is not the right word, I think Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah maybe not Debra Risner: the Ruth Weisgerber: co Debra Risner: interactions Ruth Weisgerber: confining. Debra Risner: are very structured. I Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: think structure is probably Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Debra Risner: what you're saying that, Ruth Weisgerber: yeah. Debra Risner: each individual is structured to one particular Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Debra Risner: task, Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm. Debra Risner: and Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: one parti rather than controlling. I don't think there's Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: a sense of control 'cause Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: all the decisions have been made in terms of a, like a consensus Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Debra Risner: right, Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm. Debra Risner: we go around and we think about it, but Barbara Allen: Uh-huh. Debra Risner: that Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Debra Risner: you know process actually Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm. Debra Risner: says you have to do it in a certain way. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: It doesn't tell you, you know, some ways that you might wanna be a bit more Ruth Weisgerber: Mm. Debra Risner: creative in terms Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Debra Risner: of the Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm. Debra Risner: process you Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: know, not the Barbara Allen: Okay, uh what about teamwork? Ruth Weisgerber: Um did, you Jennifer Leja: Uh, Ruth Weisgerber: wanna comment Jennifer Leja: reckon Ruth Weisgerber: Craig? Jennifer Leja: that was a bit hard because we could only discuss things in the meeting. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Jennifer Leja: If we could just go up to somebody outside the meeting and have a quick talk with them, that would've been a lot easier. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Fully Debra Risner: I think you Ruth Weisgerber: agree. Debra Risner: tried to use the common share folder to to to to communicate, but um it just comes back to us so slow in the email Barbara Allen: Mm. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: um it it doesn't have a, you know, a messenger will go. Barbara Allen: Did Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: uh did you guys get the email I sent you? Jennifer Leja: Not just yet. Debra Risner: Yeah. Barbara Allen: Oh that's Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Barbara Allen: alright. I was Ruth Weisgerber: got Barbara Allen: wondering Ruth Weisgerber: the email. Barbara Allen: if that got Debra Risner: Okay. Barbara Allen: there okay. Okay, um so um to s to to summarize the teamwork issue, saying that if we could communicate outside the meeting, you know just like quick questions, quick thoughts, whatever, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: it probably would be Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Barbara Allen: bit Debra Risner: I think Barbara Allen: easier. Debra Risner: the Ruth Weisgerber: in Debra Risner: tools Ruth Weisgerber: it Debra Risner: that they were given, the tool set that were given to us are fancy but they don't support collaboration, Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Debra Risner: I think that's the Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm, Debra Risner: word. They don't Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm, Debra Risner: support the Barbara Allen: Oh Debra Risner: team Ruth Weisgerber: exactly. Barbara Allen: right, Debra Risner: working Barbara Allen: okay. Debra Risner: together, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Debra Risner: you Ruth Weisgerber: I mean Debra Risner: know, Ruth Weisgerber: if you Debra Risner: they're still very individual tools. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, I mean sort of taking upon that idea, w the way I see this i is that it's uh the the s the structure in which we've we've approached this whole task is quite contrary to the p principle of teamwork because the the tasks were d d sort of um divided, and then the work went on in isolation Barbara Allen: Mm. Ruth Weisgerber: I I don't know what you guys did while you were together, maybe that was a bit different, but Debra Risner: We had Ruth Weisgerber: um Debra Risner: Play-Doh fun. Ruth Weisgerber: yeah, but um but actually if you if you imagine not entire the completely same task given to us but us said okay, first thing we have to do is come up with um let's say um a design concept, and we sit here together and do it, Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: well that's what teamwork is. To s to say okay go off and don't talk to each other, Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: it's actually p sort of predisposes you to quite the contrary of teamwork. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Um not that we haven't done I think the best we could have done. Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: I'm not dissatisfied with it. Barbara Allen: Right, uh anything else to say on teamwork at all? Debra Risner: No, not really. Barbara Allen: Okay, um what about the you know how we used the whiteboard, the digital pens, the projector, stuff like that? Um did Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: anybody think anything was like really useful, anything was pretty un f unsupportive? Ruth Weisgerber: I think the whiteboard, for Ruth Weisgerber, is the kind of thing I would use all the time, but it's um not quite as useful as to us as it could have been, maybe just in the way that we we use it, in the sense that once we have an idea out there or while work was going on in between meetings, that could have been up on a board Barbara Allen: Mm. Ruth Weisgerber: uh you know as opposed to in like in text. Um, and then we could then keep our ideas sort of building on that. I know that people who design cars and you know in aviation they quite often just have a simple like fibreglass prototype and it's completely you know um abs abstract from Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Ruth Weisgerber: the final product, but they use it as a kind of a context to sort Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: of walk around and puzzle and Barbara Allen: And point Ruth Weisgerber: and Barbara Allen: at? Ruth Weisgerber: point and discuss Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: and and and in a way everybody's as we discuss things in the in theoretically and out of our notebooks, we're just we're actually just each of us discussing something that's in each of our own minds. It wasn't until we had Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: this here, you know, like at one point I peeked across and looked at Craig's paper and I'm like, now I know what he's thinking 'cause I Barbara Allen: Ah. Ruth Weisgerber: saw his book. But the b the b whiteboard could've actually been this kind of continuing um Barbara Allen: So do you think producing a prototype earlier in the process woulda been a good idea? Ruth Weisgerber: Think could be, yeah. Debra Risner: I think um the the focus of it a lot was the PowerPoint as opposed Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: to the to the Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Debra Risner: whiteboard, and Ruth Weisgerber: yeah. Debra Risner: I think that m um Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: is also does Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, yeah. Debra Risner: you know hinder us and things I think. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: It will be cooler to have the whiteboard rather Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: than the the PowerPoint, or Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: maybe the whiteboard and the PowerPoint in the same place, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Barbara Allen: Okay. Ruth Weisgerber: yeah. Debra Risner: you know in the centre of Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Debra Risner: the Ruth Weisgerber: because the PowerPoint was provided to us while we had time to prepare, whereas I can imagine if I'd been encouraged to use Paintbrush, for example, Barbara Allen: Alright. Ruth Weisgerber: or whatever, I would've actually used it, um 'ca you know, just 'cause that's sorta how we what we were set up to to use while we had our time. Barbara Allen: Okay Debra Risner: I Barbara Allen: uh Debra Risner: think that there were too many PowerPoints in the meetings. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Leja: Yeah. Debra Risner: 'Cause the plug-in Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: and the plugging spent we spent Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: a lot of time doing that. And a Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: lot of the information on the PowerPoints, I don't think, you know, we needed to Ruth Weisgerber: No, Debra Risner: actually it could have, Ruth Weisgerber: not Debra Risner: we Ruth Weisgerber: quite. Debra Risner: could have gone through it verbally, especially Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: my slides, I felt that Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: they just Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: you know as opposed to having Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: to present them. Barbara Allen: What about the digital pens, did you find them easy enough to use? Jennifer Leja: Oh they're a Ruth Weisgerber: Sure, Jennifer Leja: bit clunky. Ruth Weisgerber: yeah. Debra Risner: Yep clunky. Agreed. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Yep. Barbara Allen: Clunky, okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm. Barbara Allen: Um Debra Risner: Having to tick it before you go off was a bit hindering as well, Ruth Weisgerber: Mm. Debra Risner: 'cause you're Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: half way through a thought, and then you run out of paper and then you have to jump. Barbara Allen: I know, I think Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: at the very start of today I like wrote a whole load of stuff, didn't click note on one, then went back and wrote one tiny wee thing on the another page, but then did click note, Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Barbara Allen: and so I'm quite worried that I've just written over the top Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Barbara Allen: of it Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Barbara Allen: or something, Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: but they'll have my paper anyway um Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Barbara Allen: and haven't done that Debra Risner: But I Barbara Allen: since. Debra Risner: think the pen is v is very intuitive, everybody knows how to use it, we don't Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Debra Risner: have Barbara Allen: Yeah, Debra Risner: to worry. Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm, Debra Risner: So Barbara Allen: yeah. Debra Risner: I think the pen's good. Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm. Debra Risner: It's about the best thing. Ruth Weisgerber: And o on the topic of the technology, it just occurred to Ruth Weisgerber that we actually didn't need to move our computers because each computer has all of the files. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: It just occurred to Ruth Weisgerber that they Debra Risner: Yeah Ruth Weisgerber: all Debra Risner: we only needed one computer Ruth Weisgerber: We only actually Debra Risner: and Ruth Weisgerber: needed one computer. Barbara Allen: Yeah, Ruth Weisgerber: If there Barbara Allen: that's Ruth Weisgerber: had been Barbara Allen: true. Ruth Weisgerber: a fifth, that coulda Jennifer Leja: Good Ruth Weisgerber: just Jennifer Leja: point. Ruth Weisgerber: been sitting there ready to go the whole Debra Risner: And Ruth Weisgerber: time. Debra Risner: the computer may not um be conducive to a meeting because Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: um you tend to look at your computer and wanna have Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: the urge to check something, Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: you know, it's useful but Barbara Allen: Do you think the computers just provide distraction in a meeting? Debra Risner: I think too many computers are just Jennifer Leja: Yeah. Debra Risner: distracting. Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: Um Barbara Allen: I know I I like to have things written down in front of Ruth Weisgerber actually, Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: like a lot of the stuff that was emailed Ruth Weisgerber: Yep. Barbara Allen: to Ruth Weisgerber I ended up you know like Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: writing down there Debra Risner: Yep. Barbara Allen: or something so I could look at it Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: really quickly and not have the distraction of all of that, um I don't know about anybody Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: else. Um what else uh any wh I do I'm not really sure what they're looking for when they say new ideas found. Um Jennifer Leja: Is this Barbara Allen: I don't Jennifer Leja: for Barbara Allen: know Jennifer Leja: the project Barbara Allen: is could you think of like Jennifer Leja: or Barbara Allen: anything else that would have been helpful today at all? Ruth Weisgerber: Well, the w main one for Ruth Weisgerber is that uh the process na in a natural f context would not have been interrupted by this necessity to discommunicate ourselves Barbara Allen: Mm. Ruth Weisgerber: from each other. So, Barbara Allen: Yeah if we just Ruth Weisgerber: that's Barbara Allen: had Ruth Weisgerber: kind Barbara Allen: uh Ruth Weisgerber: of a new idea for Ruth Weisgerber is like just sort of that idea, well you know it's kind of s hard to keep f working forward on a team a team based project Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Ruth Weisgerber: when when you're told you must now work away from your team. Barbara Allen: Yeah I I dunno I think it was quite good that we had time limits on the meetings because they really could have run on and like my experience Ruth Weisgerber: Oh Barbara Allen: with meetings Ruth Weisgerber: yeah. Barbara Allen: is that they really do, and Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, Barbara Allen: you can spend a lot Ruth Weisgerber: yeah. Barbara Allen: of time talking about The only thing is though like when we had our meeting about the conceptual design, I thought there maybe another fifteen minutes would have been useful there but Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Barbara Allen: um Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: yeah. I really thi i I think maybe if we'd like all been working in the one room, and they just said you know like every hour or something everybody make sure yo you know Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: just have a have a short meeting and then just Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: c just to have like something written down, Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: just like you know a a milestone if you like um rather than having meetings, but There you Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Barbara Allen: go. Um so in closing, I haven't got my five minutes to go. Thin Oh there it i Five minutes to go. Wonderful. Okay um are the costs within the budget, yes they are. And is the project evaluated, yes it is. So now celebrate. Ruth Weisgerber: Great. So Debra Risner: And we Ruth Weisgerber: it Debra Risner: have Ninja Homer. Ruth Weisgerber: So now Jennifer Leja: Oh Ruth Weisgerber: we Jennifer Leja: yeah. Barbara Allen: Well apparently now I write the final report. Jennifer Leja: Do we know what Barbara Allen: What Jennifer Leja: the Barbara Allen: are you Jennifer Leja: other Barbara Allen: guys Jennifer Leja: ones are? Barbara Allen: doing now? Ruth Weisgerber: I I don't know. Barbara Allen: You dunno? Jennifer Leja: Oh wow. Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Barbara Allen: That is lovely. Jennifer Leja: Hey yeah, I said Ninja Homer. Ruth Weisgerber: What did you call it? Debra Risner: Ninja Homer. See it looks like Homer Simpson Ruth Weisgerber: Huh, huh. Debra Risner: but it's Barbara Allen: So Debra Risner: electronic Barbara Allen: is that j Debra Risner: so it's made Barbara Allen: is that Debra Risner: in Ruth Weisgerber: Logo. Debra Risner: Japan. Barbara Allen: just is that just a logo or does it do anything? Debra Risner: Yeah it's just a logo. Barbara Allen: Just a logo and Ruth Weisgerber: Huh. Barbara Allen: then like Ninja Debra Risner: Ninja Barbara Allen: Homer, Debra Risner: Homer. Barbara Allen: right okay. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm. Debra Risner: The the red is supposed to represent the whatever else you wanna print on the side of it. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: I think it's Ruth Weisgerber: Fashion Barbara Allen: quite nice. Ruth Weisgerber: technology or something. Debra Risner: You can wear Homer, you can throw Homer when you're frustrated, doh. Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm, hmm, hmm. Barbara Allen: Oh no, that's cool, it's got I'm kind Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Barbara Allen: of Debra Risner: It's Barbara Allen: I'm Debra Risner: clunky. Barbara Allen: slightly gutted that we couldn't get plastic and rubber, I think that would have been nice. Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah, yeah. Barbara Allen: Ah well, maybe from now on real reaction Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: should give us more money. Debra Risner: Oh, Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Debra Risner: I did learn something new, Play-Doh is useful. Barbara Allen: Play-Doh Debra Risner: No Barbara Allen: s Debra Risner: it is it is. It is useful and in Ruth Weisgerber: Huh. Debra Risner: in in in in in in um Ruth Weisgerber: Huh. Debra Risner: conceptualizing, in being creative. Barbara Allen: Really? Debra Risner: 'Cause like you say, it's something you can put your hands on and feel and touch Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: and get a sense for. Like we were playing with the Play-Doh and the ideas came with the Play-Doh Barbara Allen: Did they? Debra Risner: rather than with everything else. You might wanna write that Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: down. It's just, Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: I'm just fiddling with the Play-Doh, and I'm going yeah Barbara Allen: Play-Doh. Debra Risner: yeah it's kinda Ruth Weisgerber: No, Debra Risner: cool. Ruth Weisgerber: it's true, yeah. Jennifer Leja: Guess I'd forgot how good s Play-Doh smells. Ruth Weisgerber: Hmm. Barbara Allen: Yeah, it smells funny doesn't it. Ruth Weisgerber: And Barbara Allen: Um Ruth Weisgerber: some Play-Dohs are actually I think edible aren't they? Debra Risner: No, Barbara Allen: Yeah Debra Risner: all Barbara Allen: like Debra Risner: Play-Doh Barbara Allen: the stuff Debra Risner: is Barbara Allen: for Jennifer Leja: I Debra Risner: edible. Jennifer Leja: think they're all non-toxic Barbara Allen: I think Jennifer Leja: 'cause Barbara Allen: it has Jennifer Leja: it's aimed Barbara Allen: to Jennifer Leja: for like Barbara Allen: be, yeah. Jennifer Leja: two-year-olds. Debra Risner: It's just wheat, it's the stuff that your mom could make with preservatives and uh Ruth Weisgerber: Wow, Barbara Allen: Yeah Ruth Weisgerber: hmm. Barbara Allen: um so to wha what are your summarising words about Play-Doh? Debra Risner: It's helpful to the creative Ruth Weisgerber: Huh. Debra Risner: process. Um Barbara Allen: Okay. Debra Risner: it engages all your senses not just your sight, but your sense Ruth Weisgerber: Yep. Debra Risner: of feel your sense of touch. And Ruth Weisgerber: Taste. Debra Risner: it helps you to understand dimension as well. I think that Barbara Allen: Yeah. Debra Risner: that's very helpful because Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: it it starts to pop up, whereas on a piece of paper, on a computer, on Barbara Allen: Yeah. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Debra Risner: a board, Ruth Weisgerber: yep. Debra Risner: um Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Debra Risner: even with a three D_ graphic thing it still, it requires Jennifer Leja: Yeah Debra Risner: a Jennifer Leja: it's not Debra Risner: lot Jennifer Leja: very Debra Risner: of Ruth Weisgerber: Yeah. Jennifer Leja: tangible. Debra Risner: yeah Barbara Allen: Mm-hmm. Debra Risner: tangible, Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm, Debra Risner: that's a nice Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm, Debra Risner: word. Ruth Weisgerber: mm-hmm. Debra Risner: It becomes tangible. Ruth Weisgerber: Mm-hmm. Barbara Allen: Tangible. Okay uh Mm. I don't know if there's anything else Debra Risner: Nope. Barbara Allen: we needed to discuss. That that's about it really. Just sit still I guess for a little while. Ruth Weisgerber: Do we retreat to our, to continue our Debra Risner: I think we Barbara Allen: Um Debra Risner: could probably do Ruth Weisgerber: r Debra Risner: it here Ruth Weisgerber: reporting Debra Risner: as long as we Ruth Weisgerber: or Debra Risner: don't Ruth Weisgerber: what i Barbara Allen: Well Debra Risner: collaborate. Barbara Allen: I dunno. Um I'm sure the little uh the little thing'll pop up any minute now. Debra Risner: Can we turn off the microphones? Barbara Allen: Yeah, yeah if the meeting's over then yeah I guess so.

Barbara Allen recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting and two team members presented their prototype and discussed the features the prototype contained. The team then looked at the production costs of the remote and had to decide which features to retain or lose in order to maintain the target cost. In maintaining the target cost, the team had to lose a number of features which they originally wanted, such as a kinetic battery, an LCD display, and various color options. The team then evaluated the prototype on the basis of its appearance, technological innovation, and spongy quality. The prototype did fairly well in the evaluation. The team then conducted an evaluation of the project process. The team felt that their creativity was hindered by the project budget and their inability to discuss the project outside of their meetings and that the structure of the task did not foster teamwork.

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Dorothy Douglass: Just put it on the deskt desktop. Debra Pearce: No on the desktop you'll find you should that there's a project documents link. A well actually just there. Dorothy Douglass: Project documents, yeah. Debra Pearce: Yeah. That's it. If you dump it in there. Dorothy Douglass: What's your username? Debra Pearce: Your username. Dorothy Douglass: What's your username and password? Mm-hmm. Sorry. Okay. Debra Pearce: Okay. Dorothy Douglass: There we go. Debra Pearce: Excellent. Right. Hopefully that's us ready to uh to go. So. Functional design meeting. We'll have to flesh out some of the uh stuff. Um we'll start with the minutes of the last meeting. Not a lot thankfully to say. We introduced ourselves, the of a macro facility, interacting the T_V_ a bit more, um mentioning of bar-code, joystick for user manipulation, um and ergonomics of the remote control as well. Um it's come to my attention the following. Teletext has become outdated due to the populat popularity of the internet. Remote control should only be used for the T_V_. Um due for uh time to market and possibly also cost issues. Um also key is the corporate image should stay recognisable, um f uh your colour and slogan of course is down at the bottom there. Um. Now. Just to say quickly uh I would have thought that only being used for a television the macro facility may now not be required. Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: Um or at l its functionality would have been of limited use. So to the point in my opinion anyway that it might not be worth pursuing. Um if anybody disagrees we can uh definitely say so. Um and hopefully we'll just crack on and we'll get everything going. Um I'd like to if possible hear from our Marketing Expert first, Dorothy Douglass: 'Kay. Debra Pearce: to help us gain an idea of where we're going to go. So um I'll just load up your presentation from here if you want. Dorothy Douglass: Sure. Um, sh would you like to I'll just do it from here. Debra Pearce: Yep. Sorry. Uh. Is yours the Dorothy Douglass: Um, try second one maybe. Try it, yeah maybe. Debra Pearce: Oh sorry. Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Okay. Debra Pearce: Okay, right. Dorothy Douglass: Oh, I thought I put in my last name, I guess not, but. Debra Pearce: Uh if you that's all right. Dorothy Douglass: Okay. Debra Pearce: If you do you want Dorothy Douglass to just cycle through it for you or? Dorothy Douglass: Oh yeah, that'd be, that'd Debra Pearce: Yeah? Dorothy Douglass: great. Okay. Functional requirement by Dorothy Douglass Ebenezer. Debra Pearce: Okay. Dorothy Douglass: Okay, so um we did some research, we asked one hundred people their opinions on remote controls. We asked some uh open ended questions, just, what are your opinions on the remote control, got a lot of re responses, and we asked some very specific questions, and we got a lot of good feedback. Please bear in mind this is only a hundred people, so even when the groups are divided into fifteen to twenty five, twenty five to thirty five, there's only maybe ten people fifteen people in each group. Okay. Debra Pearce: Okay. Dorothy Douglass: So we got some the bad stuff we got, remotes are often lost. I often lose my remote control, the back of the couch, some place, and even if it's not lost permanently, it takes Dorothy Douglass a few minutes to find it. Most buttons are not used any more, like you said, teletext is outdated now. I remember trying to load a D_V_D_ player recently, and there were so many buttons, it took Dorothy Douglass I don't know maybe ten minutes to to go through each button, 'cause you have to press the shift button to access the yellow buttons, you know there's just a lot of stuff that no one really uses. And if they do, not very often. Takes too long to master the remote control. I've seen some remote controls that are big, they have a lot of buttons, you have to hold down more than one key at one time to do something, they're just not great to use. We just got a lot of bad complaints about remote controls, people do not like remote controls. Some of the good stuff we got. Between the age of uh fifteen and twenty five, most people would be willing to pay extra for voice recognition software. Now don't get excited yet, I've got more to say on that. Most people'd be willing to pay for that um most people want remote controls to be pretty, they want it to be fancy, th they they want it to be different, everybody has a white remote control with black buttons, and a red button and a green button, not everybody wants that. Finally, my opinion. Debra Pearce: Yep. Dorothy Douglass: The voice recognition thing is cool. And uh voice recognition, the software, open source software exist already. It's a bit sketchy at some times, uh, you're not gonna get good always accurate results, but for a very fixed number of words, you know you have, how many different words can you have for a remote control, up, down, left, right, channel five, channel seven, you know, how many, you can't have that many words. For a fixed vocabulary it works quite well. I'm pretty sure people would buy it. But after a while people may wanna return it, because if you have to to say som I mean most people use a remote control for switching to channels, and they say they do that about ninety eight percent of the time. Using the remote control, ninety eight percent of the time for changing channels, and that's for flickering through channels. So if you have to say up, up, up, up, if you have to do that all the time, then people might get a bit fed up with that and they may return it. However, oh, because the voice recognition software exists already, there's no need to spend money on research and development, but this does mean the need for microphones in the in the remote control, which is an unusual feature in my opinion. But if we do have the voice recognition thing, there's a lot of stuff that you can uh get rid of. See, you could there're two options. Either you have voice recognition by itself, which I think is a bit impractical for like night time if you wanna be watching television and you wanna be quiet, or I don't know you have a visitor coming round and the remote's only trained for you, it's a bit impractical to have just voice recognition by itself. So you can have voice recognition and a regular remote. But imagine you got rid of the regular remote part, then you can design the remote to look any way you want it to look, because there are no restrictions on physical size, or shape, it it could be as fancy as you want it to be, you know, it could be like a lollipop or something like that, something weird like that. As long as the voice recognition stuff works, that's that's fine. Debra Pearce: Okay, yep. Dorothy Douglass: So we have the three birds, that we have the the fancy bit, right, the voice recognition's fancy, it's cool, it's different, it's radical, so, and then we have an extra bit I don't remember so I'm pretty sure people will buy the remote, but is it practical to have a voice recognition system in a remote control, I think is a big question. Um, will people will people be willing to wait for the the period that it'll take to train the remote, 'cause I think it will the remote will uh get better over time with the same user user, but for the first week or for the first two weeks are you willing to wait, are you willing to have a bad remote control. And uh what if you have visitors come round, they stay the night, they wanna use the T_V_, they can't use the remote because they speak differently to you. Um, how do you account for regional accents and stuff like that. Uh, will people return the remote control, I think a lot of young people will buy the remote control, if they have the money, you know, so, Debra Pearce: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Douglass: do our audience have the money, but would they return it after a while because it's not as fast as pressing a button, it's not a practical. So. Debra Pearce: If Dorothy Douglass: These Debra Pearce: you could Dorothy Douglass: are things Debra Pearce: uh Dorothy Douglass: I think we should consider. I Debra Pearce: sor Dorothy Douglass: think it's cool, Debra Pearce: if you could speed it up a bit, yeah. Dorothy Douglass: I'm sorry? Debra Pearce: If you could uh speed it up a bit please, Dorothy Douglass: Sure. Debra Pearce: yeah. Dorothy Douglass: I'm about Debra Pearce: Sorry. Dorothy Douglass: to end, yeah. Debra Pearce: Cool. Dorothy Douglass: I think it's cool but there are definitely some considerations. Debra Pearce: Okay. Dorothy Douglass: So, yeah. Debra Pearce: Excellent. Right. Um. Hear from Teresa Finley now I think might be an idea. Teresa Finley: Okay. Debra Pearce: Um, Anna Hasty: How did where Debra Pearce: you've Anna Hasty: did Debra Pearce: got your presentation now, Teresa Finley: Yeah, Debra Pearce: is it Teresa Finley: it's Debra Pearce: on Teresa Finley: in Debra Pearce: the Teresa Finley: the it's the folder Anna Hasty: did you Teresa Finley: yeah. Anna Hasty: get Debra Pearce: is Anna Hasty: all your Debra Pearce: it? Anna Hasty: in Debra Pearce: Okay. Anna Hasty: information? Dorothy Douglass: There was uh a website, Anna Hasty: Oh. Dorothy Douglass: uh, right here. Anna Hasty: Ah, okay. Debra Pearce: Technical functions? Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: No. Yeah. Dorothy Douglass: G I started making stuff up, then I got an email saying Debra Pearce: Okay. Teresa Finley: Okay, this is a brief run through of the um of the technical functions of the remote. As um is uh the the the presentation is uh already slightly obsolete because I had in mind something that would uh be i be aimed at controlling multiple devices but uh there's still stuff of relevance, so Debra Pearce: Okay. Teresa Finley: press on. I've looked at looked at a num uh couple other uh remote control models just an basic design principles. Um and wasn't really satisfied by what I saw I have to say so this is more sort of springboard for uh how these could be improved on. Um um basically the job of the device is to send commands to an appliance, in this case the television set. Um to save you getting off your backside. Um and there's two main trends in th in the sort of design practice. On the one hand and this uh this particularly relates to its sort of earliest models where with you know i so so many buttons on it so about the size of the television set. Um giving you every possible function that the that the device has, the remote control controls. And most of these functions are not going to be used, it creates a rather user unfriendly interface. And on the other hand there's a user focused approach that pares things down to just what what is most likely to get used. Um With uh a and a and of course there is a certain amount of sort of loss of function here obviously, but mostly that's relatively peripheral functions. And so you go for something that's fairly intuitive to use, and um well f the for the most part for T_V_ remote it's uh tha that would be channel control and volume. Um and if you if you if you are wanting to incorporate uh control of a D_V_ D_V_D_ or uh V_C_R_ presumably into that then there's a play, pause, stop, rewind, fast-forward, record, so forth. Um. My own view is that we should definitely be going for a user focused design. Um but uh the pro I think the problem with a lot of the sort of user focused designs that are about is that they sort of make assumptions in advance about what uh what a given user's going to uh want mo want to do from want it to do most. So, something that's uh something that is more programmable, that uh perh perhaps has the full range of functions available to it but you can then specify yourself what you're most likely to want. Um so that those are then immediately accessible through fairly minimal number of controls, um I liked Ebenezer's idea of including a joystick in that and uh possibly a sort of fairly minimal number of sort of function buttons, and have a disp you then have some sort of basic display on it so that if you're um sort of cha changing from different modes for the device it'll tell you just exactly what uh you know each direction of the uh of the um joystick's going to do or wha or what each function button's going to do. Um, this is actually a again slightly taking inspiration off of uh games controllers, Dorothy Douglass: Mm. Teresa Finley: you know the Playstation control where you have four basic function buttons that are just marked with um distinctive uh geometrical shapes but the and then dependent on what you're doing with it what game and so on um those uh those functions are then sort of further specified. And so it's taking taking the lead from that. Um. Debra Pearce: Okay. Yeah. Right. Teresa Finley: That's it. Debra Pearce: Um, if we could hear from our Industrial engineer, or Anna Hasty: Yeah. Debra Pearce: Designer. Anna Hasty: Uh, I was still working on stuff, I hadn't got it finished. Um, alright. Click to save in where do I have to save it? Debra Pearce: If you look on the desktop you'll find that there's a link to the project folder, or project documents. If you save it in there we can open it up from here. Anna Hasty: Um, what I've done with it, I'm sorry. Anna Hasty: Shit. Um Debra Pearce: Are you finding it okay or? Anna Hasty: I'm just closing it now. where I've saved it. Dorothy Douglass: Well like if you go to one, uh whichever one you were Anna Hasty: that's Dorothy Douglass: working Anna Hasty: it there, yeah. Dorothy Douglass: yeah, and you just click file save as. Anna Hasty: Oh right. Debra Pearce: Okay. Anna Hasty: right I'm responsible for working design, uh, this is basically the inside going on of the the uh remote control. So we have the energy source, we have the user interface, this this is what I've seen. Uh the sender will push the button, the chip will respond, uh and then the dig digital signal is sent to the T_V_. So uh uh, if you go to next slide, you'll see you'll see uh what do we need on the user interface. Do we need uh many buttons, or do we need l many light bulbs that could be easier to uh to realise which appliances are on or not. Um, or would that take too much power, would we need more um components in there to supply the power? Um, the joystick is another thing, if we were gonna add that, um, there'd be more components to deal with that. Debra Pearce: Mm-hmm. Anna Hasty: Um, so uh we need to I dunno exactly what That's the design of the the the layout of the uh electronic design, but um obviously there'll be more details once we've decided what we're putting on the user interface. Debra Pearce: Okay. Anna Hasty: So, that'll be decided, I guess. Uh, and the next slide. Oh, yeah Um, if you go to the next slide then. Debra Pearce: Oh. Yeah. Anna Hasty: I just used the it was a mess, uh I was just putting adding it together at the end there. Debra Pearce: Ah, don't Anna Hasty: Uh Debra Pearce: worry about it at all mate. Anna Hasty: Uh so you have the energy source obviously connected to the chip, and the user interface obviously contains everything. You have the switch turn it on, infrared bulb, uh will contact the T_V_ and will have whatever device or D_V_D_ player, the bulb will turn on to say it's on. Uh, so do we need on the control uh different buttons to decide, or different light bulbs, would it be easier? Um, I dunno what we should decide on that. Debra Pearce: Okay. Well. Oh sorry, I'm I'm interrupting you. Are Anna Hasty: No, Debra Pearce: you Anna Hasty: it's finished, Debra Pearce: is it Anna Hasty: yeah. Debra Pearce: yeah? Okay. Right. Um, right we can probably skip that for now. So, we've had some stuff put forward, um along with the new user requirements, um we've had a lot of kind of input I'd say so far. Um I hear what Dorothy Douglass's saying about um voice activated control. However I've got a couple of worries about that. The power required, um and the ability Anna Hasty: Cost. Debra Pearce: to Anna Hasty: Mm. Debra Pearce: the cost, it seems like for uh an embedded system, this could cause us issues. Um for example you see that there's fairly robust services on uh computers via uh via voice, I_B_M_ do um drag and dictate, Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: but these require a lot of memory and usually um state quite advanced processor requirements. Um voice activation could be an interesting idea but I think that our Ind Industrial Designer would probably upon some research say that it's maybe not feasible. Dorothy Douglass: 'Kay. Debra Pearce: Um that's just my view Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: right now, however the idea of a joystick and then maybe an L_C_D_ which has been kind of put forward so far, it's almost like having a small T_ not T_V_ to say, but if you can control almost all of the functionality from the display, I don't know how much power an L_C_D_ would take, Dorothy Douglass: Mm. Debra Pearce: but it might be quite low? Anna Hasty: L_C_D_ Dorothy Douglass: I uh Anna Hasty: on the remote just telling you what's on, or uh, Debra Pearce: Well literally Anna Hasty: interactive Debra Pearce: um Anna Hasty: L_C_D_ or Debra Pearce: if you can imagine the display maybe slightly larger than um those on a a mobile phone, something Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: where you can read an an um fair amount of information, traverse maybe quite a few menus, if we maybe used mobile phones as a good example, they usually incorporate they have the keypad, and then evr all the other functionality is usually associated inside by traversing around. Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: That could be one possibility. Um and then we could have like say the common buttons as you say, Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: volume control, changing channels Teresa Finley: I I was thinking that the remote the um sort of default functions for the joystick would be up and down for uh volume, left and right for channels. Debra Pearce: We Anna Hasty: Do you think that people will get mixed up, like, they'll be looking at this screen and that screen and then, you know, trying to get everything working, would it be a bit confusing? Teresa Finley: Um I think probably for the first couple of hours of using it Anna Hasty: Yeah. Teresa Finley: um but you know muscle memory's a wonderful thing, um. Dorothy Douglass: Mm. Teresa Finley: And I think and I think that size of uh display was about what I had in mind. Um though I mean I w I would say that uh we could probably probably be required to um mo most of the mobile phone displays you see these days are colour but we should probably try to stick to black and white. Debra Pearce: I Teresa Finley: Si Debra Pearce: would agree with Teresa Finley: si Debra Pearce: you. Teresa Finley: simply to keep m keep the unit cost down. Um I mean colour could be a sort of subsequent development but uh you know cost a bit of extra money f w w w w w once everyone's got the first, you know, oh colour's out, we'll have to replace Debra Pearce: Mm-hmm. Teresa Finley: it won't we. It does nothing extra. Debra Pearce: That would be my feeling as well, I think we could possibly create quite a useful user interface. Um Dorothy Douglass: Sure Debra Pearce: now I mean Dorothy Douglass: but Debra Pearce: I don't sorry, go for it. Dorothy Douglass: the idea of a remote with a menu or and a joystick I think like I h if I was in the habit of buying remote controls then I would want one, but I think we don't have a specific audience, you know, like what is our target audience, what niche are niche are we trying to market and corner. You know, you know what I'm saying, like, for whom is this intended? Everybody? Debra Pearce: I think it could probably be aimed at most people who've used a mobile. And that might be just another way of saying try to target most people. Dorothy Douglass: Most people, yeah. Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: might be s you know um we're kind of almost relying on their experience with a mobile phone I suppose. Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: But that does cover a very large section of the people out there. Dorothy Douglass: Sure. I think that's fair Debra Pearce: Um, Teresa Finley: Mm. Dorothy Douglass: yeah. Debra Pearce: I mean I imagine as well that the actual L_C_D_ and maybe to a certain extent the joystick as well would be for the additional functionality. Which maybe doesn't get used as often, maybe it makes it easy for them to figure out how to um change the channels as in the frequencies and such for reprogramming it. Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: Um and you can still have the main buttons that allow the people to turn the machine on and off, d up and down, it depends, I mean maybe we have the fol um the joystick as a separate one for the other functions then, that there's just a a small number of as you were saying uh buttons that have already been defined. Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: So like we go for the nice standard um up and down for and volume control. So that literally anybody can come along, pick up the remote and still know what do do. And Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: they can completely ignore most of the functionality which would be for say the o actual owner of the the T_V_ and who would normally use the unit. Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: I dunno. Teresa Finley: I th the thing I like about the uh the uh joystick is that uh you you you then basically you can then basically put it I mean for for T_ T_ for T_V_ remote alone, you could put um I mean there are like I say the the the main things people do with a T_V_ remote control is the volume and the channel. You can pack all that onto was onto a single control. Debra Pearce: Mm-hmm. Teresa Finley: Um. But uh but the but then o uh obviously if uh you know I mean with things like ch with things like tuning and channels um you know adjusting brightn uh brightness and fiddly things that no one really bothers with, most T_V_s these days actually have menus anyway so Debra Pearce: Mm-hmm. Teresa Finley: this would be a fairly rational way of integra integrating the uh the remote with the device it's controlling. Um concern about our market. Um, if we are I mean most of the uh of the replacement remote market is sort of remote control rationalisation. Um, you've got twenty different devices Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Teresa Finley: in your living room, Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Teresa Finley: you want one wo y you want one that'll do the job of all of them. Debra Pearce: Mm-hmm. Teresa Finley: Um, if all you're replacing is one of the you know however many remotes you have in your living room, um you know you still need separate remotes for everything else. I just think that uh Debra Pearce: Well this Teresa Finley: possibly Debra Pearce: is a requirement that we have Teresa Finley: mm. Debra Pearce: to stick to I'm afraid, this isn't one that I've just arbitrarily decided on. Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: So um this is this is one of the solid ones that has to be obeyed, for now. Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: So I can understand your point, and I would agree with you, but this is our design spec for now. 'Fraid to say. Um Teresa Finley: Does that um would that include um access to say interactive functions on digital or cable? Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Debra Pearce: I would say so, yes, because then we have to be able to control the remote boxes, and that is a separate unit. Um I think that it I would say that the design spec we've been with is for the television only for now. Teresa Finley: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: And until we Dorothy Douglass: Hmm. Debra Pearce: hear otherwise we should go with just that. Dorothy Douglass: Okay, specifically Teresa Finley: Okay. Dorothy Douglass: television. Debra Pearce: Okay. Maybe we'll hear differently, but Dorothy Douglass: So Debra Pearce: for Dorothy Douglass: the Debra Pearce: now Dorothy Douglass: joystick is just for differentness. Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: It would be ease of manipulation of certain functions, Dorothy Douglass: Okay. Debra Pearce: yes. Teresa Finley: Just Debra Pearce: Um Teresa Finley: a thought. Um maybe then our market should be T_V_ manufacturers, rather than the public. Try and sell it t sell it to them to supply with um Debra Pearce: There is that possibility, yes. B However I don't know exactly where we'll be going with that, but Dorothy Douglass: Mm. Debra Pearce: it might not even be the avenue of Dorothy Douglass, that might be sales, Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: who are not in this meeting. Dorothy Douglass: It's just, the way I figure it, twelve point five Euros per unit, Debra Pearce: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Douglass: we have to sell at least like three million or something like that, not to account for all the the money we waste on remotes that no one buys, you know, like if we made a perf if we made a ks Debra Pearce: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Douglass: for every remote we made someone bought it, then we have to sell a lot of remote controls. We just Is this gonna be enough to to sell? Debra Pearce: Well, something else that you brought up was uh the ability to lose a remote, which as you said you've done, in fact we've probably all done. Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Debra Pearce: Um, I don't know if it's a gimmick or not, but have any of you ever seen those odd little key rings where if you whistle, it will beep and you tell you where it is. Dorothy Douglass: I had Teresa Finley: Mm, Dorothy Douglass: one of those, Teresa Finley: yeah, Dorothy Douglass: and my Teresa Finley: I've Dorothy Douglass: brother, Teresa Finley: seen them. Dorothy Douglass: and my Debra Pearce: Um. Dorothy Douglass: dad, could have beat Dorothy Douglass up because it it went off all the time accidentally. Debra Pearce: Well the other option of course is that um Dorothy Douglass: The clapping one. Debra Pearce: the well I was going to say clapping, um Um digital telephones, uh for example, one unit has of course you have to have that base unit, somewhere where there's a button, but maybe it's a button that you attach to the T_V_. Dorothy Douglass: To a television. Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: Something which you when you press that, it would beep to give its location away, on the remote unit. Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Debra Pearce: And Teresa Finley: Yeah, I think that's Debra Pearce: that Teresa Finley: a good Debra Pearce: could Teresa Finley: idea. Debra Pearce: be something could um Dorothy Douglass: Yeah, Debra Pearce: separate Dorothy Douglass: that's a good idea. Debra Pearce: us a bit. And that way, because we're attaching what would be a small button to the T_V_, again say what, it would be a small transmitter, um watch battery type scenario I would say, or something that if it was problems enough you could actually even just um I don't power that might be something that we could look into. Anna Hasty: Yeah Debra Pearce: Yep. Yeah, it's uh putting a lot on your shoulders there, so I mean that could be something that separates us a bit from the market Dorothy Douglass: I Debra Pearce: as Dorothy Douglass: think Debra Pearce: well. Dorothy Douglass: so, yeah. Debra Pearce: So. To go on from here. Um we have to decide exactly what we're going to do with the remote. Before we leave this meeting, it would be best to say this is what we're going this is the design we're gonna try and get, this is how we're gonna make ourselves look unique. Do we go for Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: maybe a remote contro uh sorry, we're gonna go for a remote control obviously, do we go for a small joystick that would operate say changing channels, up and down, and then, what, another button that would say that it's now being used to manoeuvre round the L_C_D_. Teresa Finley: Mm yeah. Anna Hasty: We're Teresa Finley: Yeah, Anna Hasty: just saying volume. Teresa Finley: I think that's Anna Hasty: Should volume be important in the joystick, do you think? Debra Pearce: We could use Teresa Finley: Yeah. Debra Pearce: say the left and right for changing channels and the up and down Teresa Finley: For Debra Pearce: for Teresa Finley: volume. Debra Pearce: volume, Anna Hasty: Yep. Dorothy Douglass: But Debra Pearce: and Dorothy Douglass: we have a frequency of how what people use a remote control for most. Debra Pearce: Okay. Dorothy Douglass: Um, power Anna Hasty: I Dorothy Douglass: is used like once per hour, channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight Debra Pearce: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Douglass: per hour, that's by far the biggest one, and then teletext, is still here, that's like fourteen, Debra Pearce: Vol Dorothy Douglass: and volume selection. Debra Pearce: Volume selection okay, yep, the teletext we're gambling with, and we're gonna say Dorothy Douglass: No, Debra Pearce: it's Dorothy Douglass: yeah, Debra Pearce: dead, Dorothy Douglass: okay okay. Debra Pearce: the way of the dodo Dorothy Douglass: Yeah, um Debra Pearce: So we well, sorry, we could maybe even go as far as saying power button, small joystick, L_C_D_, and then what maybe is it one more button to say that you're using the menu system, and with the possibility of pushing down on the joystick to say okay? So we're having very very few buttons involved, Teresa Finley: Actually Debra Pearce: but Teresa Finley: how Debra Pearce: navigation around a menu for most things. Teresa Finley: Actually I would say maybe two two function buttons, the y we're now using the menus button and um and an og and an okay button. I Debra Pearce: Okay. Teresa Finley: mean certainly something I've found with the joystick on mo the joysticks on mobile phones is that a lot of the time th the device mistakes you trying to move it in one direction or the other for pushing down for okay. Debra Pearce: Okay. Teresa Finley: Or vice versa. And that's really irritating. Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: Um Teresa Finley: The o the o the other dis design constraint I think we should bear in mind is that people are you know very much used to using a remote control one handedly, um, so we need to make sure that e even with the joystick, you know something that can just sit comfortably in the palm of the hand and have the joystick just controlled by the thumb. Debra Pearce: Okay. So um we're actually that sounds like a rough idea. Do we incorporate the idea of trying to f locate the remote control again via a beeping noise? Anna Hasty: Yeah, think so. Debra Pearce: Do Dorothy Douglass: Um, I think Debra Pearce: you Dorothy Douglass: because Debra Pearce: mind looking? Dorothy Douglass: it's so small it might be an uh I mean if we only have like two three buttons it might be essential to have to have Debra Pearce: The ability Dorothy Douglass: that Debra Pearce: to locate it again. Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Debra Pearce: So that would require a um transmitter maybe attached to the T_V_, just so that it says find Dorothy Douglass, and what, a basically a small microphone um on the actual unit, can maybe hide it in Anna Hasty: Light Debra Pearce: the base. Anna Hasty: bulb as Teresa Finley: Oh. Anna Hasty: well, no? Debra Pearce: Sorry? Teresa Finley: So so a small speaker you mean. Dorothy Douglass: Speaker Debra Pearce: Some speaker, sorry, yeah. Dorothy Douglass: yeah. Anna Hasty: And a light bulb? No. To flash. No. Debra Pearce: Um Anna Hasty: Nah, you'd see it anyway, if you hear Debra Pearce: E Anna Hasty: it. Debra Pearce: us we might be better with the sound possibly Dorothy Douglass: W Anna Hasty: Yeah. Debra Pearce: we could maybe Dorothy Douglass: those Debra Pearce: incorporate Dorothy Douglass: little key-rings have both, so Debra Pearce: th e the true fact, considering the cost of an L_E_D_, Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Debra Pearce: we could just incorporate it anyway. Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Debra Pearce: The L_E_D_s can be surprisingly bright now. Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Anna Hasty: Mm-hmm. Teresa Finley: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: Um. Teresa Finley: Blue ones particularly. Plus that's a nice wee design touch. Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Debra Pearce: So by the sounds of it, with what we're suggesting so far, your design um the user interface is still quite open, you could go for quite an interesting design. Because Teresa Finley: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: we're only going to have a very few key and you've got you know a small L_C_D_, joystick, e I think it leaves you open to a a potential wide range of shapes, something that can make it stand out slightly. Teresa Finley: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: Um if you could look into what we've suggested so far, the feasibility of um small transmitter, um and such, maybe if an L_C_D_ screen requires too much power, or such. Ebenezer, um, Marketing Expert Dorothy Douglass: Well I can give you the frequency, what people what options people use most often, I guess that's gonna be important in the ts defining the the software side of the interface, right. You Debra Pearce: If, Dorothy Douglass: want the stuff. Debra Pearce: yeah if you could maybe as well see what people think about the idea of this minimalist approach that we've taken, where of a joystick to control the very basic functions, Dorothy Douglass: Okay. Debra Pearce: and then the idea of manipulating it like you would a mobile. Dorothy Douglass: Okay. Debra Pearce: I don't know how easy that will be within the time frame, but could Dorothy Douglass: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: be something we could maybe look into. Dorothy Douglass: Sure. Sure. Debra Pearce: Okay. Um any last comments that anybody would like to put forward? Anything that they think has been missed out. Bit of a wide open question there of course. Dorothy Douglass: Mm. Debra Pearce: Feel free to email Dorothy Douglass if you think that uh we've screwed something up and wanna get it rectified as soon as possible. Dorothy Douglass: Sure. 'Kay. Debra Pearce: Right. Dorothy Douglass: Yeah. Anna Hasty: So I should just look at um the speaker, the speaker and an L_E_D_. And Debra Pearce: Speaker and L_E_D_ for locating, um, Anna Hasty: Yeah, Dorothy Douglass: Transmitter. Anna Hasty: and a transmitter. Debra Pearce: transmitter Teresa Finley: Actually one one wee thought about that. Um, if we do end up trying to market this to television manufacturers then the um then the transmitter could actually be built into the television. Debra Pearce: getting the external power source, yep, that's quite true. Um, and something that we can can easily be adopted at the last minute as well I'd say. Teresa Finley: Yeah. Debra Pearce: The electronics could be s either placed externally or internally, makes no difference Teresa Finley: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: to the final product of the actual remote control, so that's good. Uses maybe gives us a new potential market. Teresa Finley: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: 'Kay. Teresa Finley: You know Anna Hasty: P Teresa Finley: I think I mean if it w if we get a major television manufacturer to say y oh yeah we'll have that, save us the bother, then that's you know vast amounts of sales. Quite quickly. Debra Pearce: Oh, one thing that we've almost not talked about at all, my apologies for that, um, user interface, we also need to maybe get the slogan in here, um it's, Anna Hasty: Fashion. Debra Pearce: I'm pointing at my laptop, what in God Real reaction, and such. So um Anna Hasty: The slogan is yeah, Debra Pearce: Oh, sorry. Anna Hasty: the slogan's we put the fashion in electronics, isn't it? Debra Pearce: My apologies. No it could well be, I've probably missed that. Um, Anna Hasty: 'S also Debra Pearce: I Anna Hasty: look Debra Pearce: think Anna Hasty: cool. Debra Pearce: that's l almost the last minute thing we can just incorporate into the actual plastic on top. So Teresa Finley: Mm. Debra Pearce: I'm not too concerned a that we haven't gone into depth about that. But it might be something you could consider when you're thinking about shapes? In fact we might Teresa Finley: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: like to put a slogan on, and um Teresa Finley: Mm-hmm. Debra Pearce: possibly the two R_s to signify the company. Rather than real reaction. Teresa Finley: Mm. Yeah. I thought the uh the d the double arc could perhaps uh be the uh the enter button. Debra Pearce: Sounds good. And I'd say that that's us for now. Okay.

Debra Pearce recapped the events of the previous meeting and briefed the team on some new requirements the team must follow when designing the remote. Dorothy Douglass presented research on consumer preferences and user requirements for remotes. Dorothy Douglass also presented information regarding voice recognition and what demographic finds the feature appealing. Teresa Finley described the technical functions of a remote and stressed the need for a user focused design. Anna Hasty discussed the interior workings of a remote. The team then discussed the option to include voice recognition, LCD, and a feature to locate a misplaced remote. The team briefly discussed who they were aiming their product to along with the idea of marketing their product to television manufacturers. The team also decided on some features to include in their product.

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