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Jerry Sexton: Okay. Hello everyone. Jose Dubois: Hi. Jon Alpert: Hi. James Greer: Hi. Jerry Sexton: Um how uh we doing Jose Dubois: Yeah, good. Jerry Sexton: Uh first we going uh over the minutes of the last meeting, more or less. James Greer: Mm-hmm. Jerry Sexton: Um in the last meeting uh the marketing manager had presented uh her method of working, meaning gathering i suggestions from everyone to see how she best could market uh this this product at the within the budget uh that was given. Uh in general the idea is that it should be something that is not difficult to use. Um it's also an item people lose So we should address that. And, of course, it should be something s s that is very simple to use. In addition to that to make it sell, of course, uh the marketing manager w wishes that it be very attractive, or like she says put some sizzle into it in one way or another so that the people are buying it now because, in particular with smaller items, that's a very important fact, 'cause um if they say, well, I go home and think about it, that won't work. Um also mentioned was it should be uh it should have a very short learning curve. And maybe it could be sold by using a slogan. Jose Dubois: Hmm. Jerry Sexton: Our technical manager has then said that she feels it should have a chip that has infra-red bits and it has an interface controls w interface that controls the chip. Therefore, messages uh will be controlled in the same manner. There should be extra features like lid buttons, maybe a beep. If too many buttons are pressed, mm uh uh child lock um and uh maybe a display clock so that people could um you could see the time, you know, what show they want to watch. Also mentioned was uh maybe different shapes. So the components of the thing should be button, bulbs, infra infra-red bulbs, battery, chips, wires, and maybe some kind of a holder uh for the for the uh item. Francino who is our um James Greer: Interface designer. Jerry Sexton: interface designer um uh has mentioned that the that it, of course, should have an on-off button, and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock. Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable. It should be compact. Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped. And maybe have an anar alarm-clock. And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature. Uh the different systems uh that exist are infra-red or radio-waves. Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity saving feature. And even possibly a timer to so that people can program their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote. James Greer: Yes. Jerry Sexton: Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what we discussed last time? Jose Dubois: Yeah. James Greer: Yes Jerry Sexton: Okay. Jon Alpert: Yeah I think pretty much is it. Yeah. Mm-hmm Jerry Sexton: Okay, then we I'm looking for three presentations. And uh I don't know whether the order matters much uh, I don't I don't think so, so whoever James Greer: Okay, Jerry Sexton: w wants James Greer: I can start first. Jerry Sexton: Yeah, okay. James Greer: Okay. Now my slide, Jerry Sexton: Okay, James Greer: please. Jerry Sexton: your slides. Okay. Oh, come on, close already. And that's number two, right? James Greer: Three. Jerry Sexton: Three. James Greer: Participant three. Yes. James Greer: Okay. Jerry Sexton: Okay. James Greer: Now as an interface designer, I would give more emphasis on the interface, how the remote looks like so that it is sellable, it is attractive to customers. Next, please. Okay. Now the function of a remote is to send messages to the television. This messages could be uh switch message or to next message or swapping the channels or switching onto a particular channel, like you can have the numbers one, two, three, four, up to nine. Jerry Sexton: Nine what? Nine channel uh switches? James Greer: Pardon Jon Alpert? Jerry Sexton: Nine channel switches? Is James Greer: Yes, Jerry Sexton: Yeah. James Greer: nine Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: numbers. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: And then you have swapping of uh button Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: by which using which you can swap the channels if you don't want to see the third channel you can swap it to the fourth channel or vice versa. Then it should have a next button, and next button channel by which you can keep on uh v uh Jose Dubois: Going James Greer: mm Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: to the nex James Greer: eh Jose Dubois: next. James Greer: scrolling the channels one Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: by one. Next slide, please. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: Then you should have a button which should which ca which can be used for increasing or decreasing the volume. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: Then, there should be a button which can give subtitles for a particular program which is going on a television. For example, if you are watching a French program and you would like to have a subtitles in English, Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: then there should be a channel which can trigger this mechanism in the television so that the user can see uh the the subtitles on the screen. Then there should d uh there should be some buttons which can control features like the colour, colour of the picture, the contrast, sharpness, brightness of the picture. Now there should be a memory switch. There should be a mute button. Suddenly if if if uh uh viewer he gets a telephone call, and if he want he doesn't want to switch off the uh T_V_, but he he can reduce the sound, he can bring the volume down and he can watch he can uh while talking he can watch the T_V_. Now the most important feature I would like to have in my remote would be the speech recognition feature. It's an integrated progra programmable sample sensor speaker unit. So a remote can be th can be uh designed which can have the voice recognisers, you can record your own voice Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: which can be recognised by as voice recogniser in the television, for example, if you want to see we if you want to see the ninth channel if you say just say ninth channel, uh th now the the uh yeah, the remote Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: will automatically it will switch to the ninth channel. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: So the T_V_ will have some recogniser which will recognise the user's voice and accordingly it will change its functionalities. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. James Greer: So this is one of the very important feature a remote control can have. So this is one one of the interface which can be created. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: A very simple interface which has all the t uh uh important features. Then, please, Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: next slide. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: Then, these are some of the remotes which are different in shape and colour, but they have many buttons. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: So uh sometimes the user finds it very difficult to recognise which button is for what function and all that. So you can you can design an interface which is very simple, and which is user-friendly. Even a kid can use that. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: So can you go on t t uh to the next slide. Yeah, so this is one of the interface or one of the remote which has this vi voice recogniser. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: And this has multi-purpose use, it can be used for T_V_, it can be used for cable-satellite, it can be used for V_C_R_, D_V_D_s and audio. And this has in-built voice recogniser. Can you go on to the next slide? Yeah, now this is an interface for a chil uh for a remote uh uh which a child can use. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: Uh this is user-friendly, it's very attractive and uh children can use it as well as they can play with it. And this comes with different colours, different shapes. Jose Dubois: Mm. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: And this this uh child uh interface has minimum buttons and all the important uh buttons are there in this small, compact, attractive child interface. Next slide, please. Now this is a big over-sized remote which cannot be misplaced or it's impossible to misplace. Jon Alpert: You don't know James Greer: this. Jon Alpert: Jon Alpert. I could James Greer: So this Jon Alpert: lose James Greer: is Jon Alpert: that James Greer: No Jon Alpert: in a minute. James Greer: this is a very big, you cannot misplace it anywhere. So this is a jumbo universal remote control and it's impossible to im misplace or lose. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: This i this is one such interface which can be created. And the personal preference uh would be a spe uh uh to incorporate speech recognisers uh which will respond to user's voice for a particular Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. James Greer: uh function. Jerry Sexton: Right. James Greer: Thank you, that's Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jerry Sexton: Okay, thank you very much. Uh any comments on uh her presentation? Jon Alpert: Well, um looks like we still have quite a choice of things out there. Jose Dubois: Mm-hmm. Jon Alpert: Um what uh I'm No suggestion's bad. James Greer: Mm yes. Jon Alpert: But uh we're gonna have to narrow it down a little more. I don't think that we can get uh the too big to misplace, I think it's just funny. Um I James Greer: Okay. Jerry Sexton: Yeah, I I th I think Jon Alpert: don't think that's gonna be our impulse purchase at the checkout counter. James Greer: Okay. Jon Alpert: It's it's gonna be a little bit Jerry Sexton: No, Jon Alpert: too Jerry Sexton: I Jon Alpert: unwieldy. Jerry Sexton: think the these are her presentations, Jon Alpert: Yeah Jerry Sexton: but Jon Alpert: mm. Mm-hmm. Jerry Sexton: uh as far as the decision making we getting Jon Alpert: Have Jerry Sexton: to Jon Alpert: to Jerry Sexton: that Jon Alpert: come back Jerry Sexton: after Jon Alpert: to that James Greer: We Jon Alpert: later. James Greer: can. Jerry Sexton: after Jon Alpert: Okay. Jerry Sexton: but if I just wanted to know whether anybody had any any anything to add to her Jon Alpert: No, Jerry Sexton: presentation. Jon Alpert: I think her presentation was good, and Jerry Sexton: Mm right. Jon Alpert: she really explored all the options. Yeah. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Ho who wants to go next um? Jose Dubois: Yeah, maybe. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Okay, and you Jose Dubois: Participant two. Jerry Sexton: Uh okay. Jose Dubois: Uh the next one, sorry. Jerry Sexton: Oops. Jose Dubois: It's it was the old one. Components. Jerry Sexton: The components design. Mm-hmm. Okay. Jose Dubois: Um this time I'm I'm going to um concentrate more on the components Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: and the technical side of the remote controller design. Uh, can you go on to the Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: next slide, please. I have just brief uh down few uh components which we require for the remote control uh construction. Uh the first one is case to keep all the components like integrated circuit, battery, etcetera, etcetera, it's like Uh it can be a plastic one, hard plastic, so that it can be strong, even if you just uh uh, you know, if you if it falls down, then it doesn't break. So it should be strong. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: And uh uh there are no harmful materials used in that. And it should be recyclable. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: Uh and Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: uh, Jon Alpert: Good point. Jose Dubois: yeah, and also uh using of colouring compon components like uh if we want to have different colours, blue, red, green, so uh uh we have to use uh some colouring compone compone components. And uh the second important thing is uh uh uh integrated circuit. Uh which uh we can use a highly sophisticated one because it's like the it's like the heart of the remote controller. If it is not efficient then everything wi is going to be uh like um the lef ess less efficient so it you should we should have a highly sophisticated one. And it should be resistant to high as well as uh low temperatures. Suppose if it is thirty-eight degrees outside forty degrees outside, it should it should uh be able to re uh resist the uh temperature uh uh highs and uh high temperatures and low temperatures. And uh it should be with uh um equipped with timer and alarm facility. And the uh other component we should uh we have in the remote controller is a resistor uh which is like uh uh i it is very very much important for the electricity uh flow through through through the uh remote controller and uh also a capacitor which is a b which is a m I think it's it's like a battery, capacitor. Can you Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: go on to the next slide, please? Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: Uh a diode, a transistor, a resonator, these are all this uh technical uh electri electronic compons uh components which are which we have to use in a remote controller. A battery uh, I would like to suggest one thing uh if we uh if we will be able to make a res rechargeable battery then we sh we need not go for a high performance battery, Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: even if it is a low performance battery it ca it can't l it can't charge much. It it it's not a high voltage battery. Then also we can If it is a rechargeable one, then uh people can use it for a long time, so in that way we can cut cut the cost, but w uh uh that we have to make the battery as rechargeable one. And we we have a circuit board uh in a remote controller. Can you go to the next slide, please. And how it works, how the remote controller works. When you press a button Jerry Sexton: Go away. Jose Dubois: Thank you. Uh when you press a button, when you do that, you complete a specific connection that means when you when you press a button there will be a s a small circuit underneath the button, and it will send some signals through the wires, and then uh the chip will send start connection and knows that which button is pressed. Suppose you have pressed channel one button, number one you have pressed, then the uh chip will know that the number one button was pressed. It pros produces a mors morse code line signal specific to that button. Every button, every individual button, has its own morse code. Suppose uh the uh user has pressed butto button one, then it will have a spe the circuit will generate a specific morse code to b that that button, and the transistor will amplify the signal and send then to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. Like you have got a signal by pressing a button. That's a d a morse code has been generated by the integrated circuit. Now, that signal, that morse code, has to be amplified by the transistor. That is the use of transist transistor we which we use in the remote controller. It will amplify the signal and it will send it to the L_E_D_ and which translates the signal into an infra infrared bits. The sensor on the T_V_ can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal seeing the signal re it reacts appropriately, that when it sees the amplified mo morse code signal, then it will uh it will uh know which uh what what action it has to uh do. Then it will do the appropriate action. So uh this is how the remote controller works. James Greer: It works. Jose Dubois: Can you go to the next slide, please. Yeah, I have few pictures. remote controller uh it's it's it this is a normal remote controller. Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: And to the next slide, please. And where we had a a few buttons and all. And uh if you open the remote controller you have this circui circuit board Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: and few electronic components, like you can see a chip there Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: which is having eighteen pins, and also a capac uh a capacitor, three resistors and also a resonator uh um mm yeah, and di and a diode transistor. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: The electronic components uh all of the electronic components have all those uh things like a chip and d diode transistors an Yeah, di um can y uh you can see the T_A_ double one eight three five Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: labelled James Greer: Mm Jose Dubois: uh James Greer: yes. Jose Dubois: chip Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jon Alpert: Yes. Jose Dubois: um. Uh you can also see the uh uh the green two green things are uh these are they are they are resistors, James Greer: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: and uh just beside that you can see a transistor, and a uh uh cylinder shape, uh that one is a capacitor. Uh and also there are uh um resistors uh sorry, ther there is a diode. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: Can you go Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: go on to the next slide. So uh this is the circuit board. The green one is a circuit board. Actually, uh building a circuit bo board is pretty pretty uh easy and also it's a it's a l l inexpensive. Uh it's it costs less than what you print on a paper, because uh uh when you when you are building uh some circuits some um uh circuits and also wires, it's it's better to go for printing, because uh you can build these kind of k circuit boards on a on a bulk and it's just printing, nothing James Greer: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: like uh, you know, you don't need to use wires and all. It's not exactly wires we are using. It's just printing something on a board. Tha tho those prints will acti act as wires and ci uh circuits. So th that green uh thing is a circuit board, and also you can see uh there are b s like uh um access for buttons, like when you press a button, the circuit under the button will be activated uh th it will it will he get some signals from it and it will uh it James Greer: Transmit. Jose Dubois: will ch its ch se send a signal signals to the, yeah, um integrated circuit. Can you go to the next slide, please. Uh so this is these are the circuits un underneath the buttons. Uh can you see the black uh, round marks? Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: They Jon Alpert: Yes. Jose Dubois: they are the circuits. Next, please. And um like uh we have uh designed uh before we have seen some uh few things like instead off buttons we have some scrolls. Uh b but a b a push-button requires a simple chip underneath it, but whereas a scroll wheel requires normally a regular chip which is a higher price range. Jon Alpert: Okay. Jose Dubois: Like for s scrolls we have to go for a sophisticated and and James Greer: Okay. Jose Dubois: k uh uh uh full a complete chip. Uh and a as energy source we offer a basic battery, a more ingenious uh hard dynamo, um a kinetic provision of energy, more than what is that you shake casually to provide energy. So that also we can have in a battery, uh or we can use solar sells. Jon Alpert: Hmm, Jose Dubois: Uh. Jon Alpert: that's interesting. Jose Dubois: Yeah. Uh yeah uh the product can be de delivered into different cases. Uh usually, the cases and card flat that w we James Greer: Okay. Jose Dubois: see usually uh d uh a normal remote controller. Um. Jerry Sexton: Okay. Jose Dubois: Yeah. Jerry Sexton: And you have more pictures. Uh we have five minutes to the end Jose Dubois: Yeah, Jerry Sexton: of the meeting. Jose Dubois: maybe d uh I have just one more slide, I think. Um. Like we can have a ma material such as plastic, rubber, wood, titanium, but titanium we can't use. Um and also for electronics we can use a simple and regular um re or an advanced chip on the print, um also infra it includes the infrared se sender. Um yeah the uh for the movie just to j develop uh samples and so spe sample speaker. An Yeah, that's it. It's all for Jon Alpert now, thank Jerry Sexton: Okay, Jose Dubois: you. Jerry Sexton: well thank you. Any particular comments by anybody? Jon Alpert: Uh yeah, on the scroll and the push-button, um ca you can achieve scrolling by repeatedly pushing a button? Jose Dubois: No, no, no, th the the the scrolling wheels are different, like you can go for a sw switches like buttons or scrolls, Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: uh which which we used to do before ten ten years before, I think. Now, nobody uses that because you need you need a a k sophisticated chip and all. So I think Jon Alpert: Um. Jose Dubois: it's better we go for uh um ordinary buttons. Jon Alpert: We'll just go for push Jose Dubois: Yeah Jon Alpert: buttons Jose Dubois: uh yeah, Jon Alpert: for James Greer: Push-buttons. Jon Alpert: in Jose Dubois: push-buttons. Jon Alpert: the interest Jose Dubois: Yeah. Jon Alpert: of cost. Jose Dubois: Yeah. Jon Alpert: Okay. Jerry Sexton: We don't have a lot of time left and we will still have to make a decision, and Jon Alpert has to present her Jon Alpert: Okay. Jerry Sexton: her Jon Alpert: Go right Jerry Sexton: thing. Jon Alpert: to my first my next slide. Jerry Sexton: Uh okay. Jon Alpert: Um alright, my method is uh I'm interested in what the competition is doing, and wanna see how we can make ourselves different from the competition, so I've really been looking at the press and the ads that are out there for other remote controllers. I s I spend a lot of time on the internet um surfing around doing the same thing. And then when I'm out um in people's houses or at meetings or anything like that, I try to notice what kind of remote controls people have, and if it's convenient in the conversation I ask about it. And I would encourage you all to do the same. Um and my findings from this is that, you know, small is beautiful. Um people like something that really fits in their hand. James Greer: 'Kay. Jon Alpert: Simple is beautiful. They don't want to have to squint at small print um, they want buttons whose functions are obvious, and they want um as few buttons as possible, and they don't care for the mode thing. They want each button to do something. And eye-catching is important. It's gotta look cute, it's gotta look appealing. Go ahead, I'm trying to finish fast for you. Um and our preference is, as far as I'm concerned, are we got to get to the market before the competition. Ours has to be look really great and it has to come out before the others, so that we have a leg up on time to sell it and push it before other people get out their Christmas item. And we should develop one or two features we can really dwell on in our ad campaign. If we try to tell people it has too many great features, um the consumer just gets confused and we don't get anywhere. So we've gotta narrow our selection down to li two things, I think, that we gonna say are really great about our our our new product. And I've been looking around um at what designs every year different things are popular. And in my research this year I found out that fruit and vegetable shapes are really popular. And people are tired of hard plastic and hard metal. They are more back into soft feel, spongy feeling things, things with maybe a little cloth on them. So those are things maybe we wanna look at as far as saleability of the item. James Greer: Mm-hmm. Jerry Sexton: Okay. Uh that concludes the presentation of everyone. And what we really have to decide in this meeting is um the concept of the remote. Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. Jerry Sexton: And uh so what do we think on the concept of the remote? Jon Alpert: You wanna try to come back to yours, and James Greer: Uh yes, Jerry Sexton: Y Jon Alpert: limit James Greer: I would Jon Alpert: yours James Greer: like Jon Alpert: a James Greer: to Jon Alpert: bit? James Greer: include this feature which is called as voice recogniser. Jon Alpert: Okay. Jerry Sexton: Okay. Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: Mm-hmm. Jon Alpert: So speech recognition is most important as far as you're concerned? Jose Dubois: Yeah, but w Jon Alpert: Yeah h that could that Jose Dubois: Yeah. Jon Alpert: could Jerry Sexton: I Jon Alpert: that Jerry Sexton: think Jon Alpert: could Jerry Sexton: that's Jon Alpert: be our star feature. That that be really good, yeah, Jose Dubois: Yeah, Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jon Alpert: I agree Jose Dubois: but Jon Alpert: with Jose Dubois: but Jon Alpert: that. Jose Dubois: I what I'm uh very very much doubtful how how uh far it will work, because a speech recogniser like i it it has its own uh uh problems, Jon Alpert: Distance Jose Dubois: issues. Jon Alpert: problem? Jose Dubois: Yeah, it's not distance problem it it's James Greer: Mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: recognising a person's voice, like maybe different people will be having different voices, so Jon Alpert: Uh. Jose Dubois: it like it's uh everything Jerry Sexton: Well, Jose Dubois: so Jerry Sexton: you you Jose Dubois: i Jerry Sexton: teach You have to teach Jose Dubois: So Jerry Sexton: uh Jose Dubois: to get a good recogni recognising James Greer: No, Jose Dubois: system, James Greer: it's Jose Dubois: it's James Greer: it's, Jose Dubois: a James Greer: uh yeah, Jose Dubois: costly James Greer: it Jose Dubois: thing, James Greer: it's Jose Dubois: I think. James Greer: like your recording of uh all uh um a question already, and then you're expecting an answer from th For example, you have a T_V_ system, I'm the user Jose Dubois: Mm-hmm. James Greer: and my family members are the user, I will already record Jose Dubois: Yeah, but James Greer: uh Jose Dubois: Yeah. James Greer: a question Jose Dubois: Mm-hmm. James Greer: like, uh good morning, like around eight o'clock I want to see the news Jose Dubois: Mm-hmm. James Greer: in the television. So I'll say just good morning and the T_V_ will switch on. Jose Dubois: Mm-hmm. James Greer: It will recognise my voice Jose Dubois: Yeah. James Greer: and will switch Jerry Sexton: Okay, James Greer: on. Jerry Sexton: before we get too far off here um, the components of the concept is the energy. What kind of energy do we foresee? Jon Alpert: I Jerry Sexton: Battery. Jon Alpert: think I think battery, Jerry Sexton: Battery. James Greer: Battery. Jon Alpert: and I think we all agreed on that. That James Greer: Yes. Jon Alpert: that's that's gonna Jose Dubois: Yeah. Jon Alpert: be most cost-effective Jose Dubois: Yeah. Jon Alpert: and the best thing. Jerry Sexton: Okay then chip on print. Jose Dubois: Yeah. Jon Alpert: Yep. James Greer: Yes. Jerry Sexton: Okay. And the case. And I think we all agree on the case, we wanna have something uh maybe bright, colourful. Jose Dubois: Yeah. Jon Alpert: Bright, colourful, James Greer: And compact. Jose Dubois: And also strong. Jon Alpert: trendy trendy design, Jose Dubois: Trendy, James Greer: Trendy design Jon Alpert: and strong. Jose Dubois: yeah. James Greer: and compact. Jerry Sexton: Mm-hmm. Trendy design, compact and strong. Jon Alpert: Mm-hmm. James Greer: Yes. Jerry Sexton: User interface concept, uh interface type, supplements That will be your Jose Dubois: Uh. Jerry Sexton: area I think, right, Jana. Jose Dubois: Um like the switches, like we use buttons for user interface. James Greer: Push-buttons. Jerry Sexton: Put uh k Jose Dubois: Push-buttons. Jerry Sexton: I guess uh for yeah. And Not sure what they mean James Greer: And Jerry Sexton: by supplements. Jose Dubois: Yeah. James Greer: Supplements Jon Alpert: Well, I think James Greer: like Jon Alpert: that James Greer: different types of features buttons, Jon Alpert: Yeah, James Greer: like can Jon Alpert: or James Greer: have Jerry Sexton: Oh, James Greer: a Jerry Sexton: like James Greer: f mute button Jon Alpert: or James Greer: or Jon Alpert: like her speech James Greer: a Jon Alpert: recognition Jerry Sexton: Oh. James Greer: swapping Jon Alpert: would also James Greer: button. Jon Alpert: be a supplement. Her Jerry Sexton: A what? Jon Alpert: speech recognition Jerry Sexton: Right, Jon Alpert: feature Jerry Sexton: right, James Greer: Recogniser. Jon Alpert: would Jerry Sexton: right, Jon Alpert: be a supplement. Jerry Sexton: mm-hmm. Jose Dubois: Mm yeah. James Greer: Yes. Jon Alpert: Okay, so why don't we put down speech recognition if possible Jose Dubois: Hmm. Jon Alpert: pending some more research from our industrial engineer on how expensive Jose Dubois: Mm-hmm. Jon Alpert: that is. Jose Dubois: Yeah. Jerry Sexton: Right. James Greer: Yes. Jerry Sexton: Okay. Uh our next meeting will be in thirty minutes, and the uh I_D_ is to this is the individual actions to be taken until then, to have the look and feel design, and uh the U_I_D_ is supposed to uh come up with the user interface design, Jose Dubois: Mm-hmm. Jerry Sexton: and Jon Alpert with the product evaluation. Jon Alpert: Okay. Jerry Sexton: In this phase, the two of you, Jana and Francine, have to work together on a prototype James Greer: Okay. Jerry Sexton: using modelling clay, it says here. You will receive Jose Dubois: Mm-hmm. Jerry Sexton: specific instructions will be sent to you by your coaches. James Greer: Okay. Jerry Sexton: Um if you have any questions, you know, you you can always uh contact Jon Alpert um or uh or your coach, I suppose. Jon Alpert: Wherever they're hiding? Jerry Sexton: Um so um I think we conclude the meeting here and we come back in uh uh thirty minutes, Jose Dubois: Yeah. James Greer: Okay. Jerry Sexton: according to our timetable here. Thank you very much. Jose Dubois: Thank James Greer: Thank Jose Dubois: you. James Greer: you.

Jerry Sexton opens the meeting by going over the minutes of the last meeting. The interface specialist begins her presentation by highlighting important remote functions and showing examples of remote interfaces. The group comments on her presentation, and then Jose Dubois begins presenting. She talks about the technical electronic components of the remote, explains how a remote works, and shows a few pictures revealing the insides of a normal remote control. She suggests giving the remote a strong shell so it is durable, using a rechargable battery, and not adding a scroll wheel because it requires a sophisticated chip. Jon Alpert presents, talking about user preferences for a small, simple, eye-catching, cute, appealing, and functional remote. Fruit and vegetable shapes are popular this year, so a soft, spongy remote perhaps covered with cloth could make the item marketable. The group discusses the issues surrounding speech recognition, noting that if it is good quality it could be costly. They about the power source and review the objectives of the product. Jerry Sexton closes the meeting by telling each member what task she is to complete.

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Juan Jacob: Good morning. Juan Jacob: Sorry? Yeah, busy job. Juan Jacob: Good morning. Juan Jacob: So Oh, good morning everyone. Richard Simpson: Good morning. Derrick Eastman: Good morning. Juan Jacob: I'd uh like to welcome you to our first meeting. I've prepared a little presentation. My name is and uh I hope you will introduce yourself uh in a few minutes, as will I. Um I'm Juan Jacob of this project, and uh, well I will tell you on what actually is the project. This is uh the agenda for our first meeting. Um this is the opening, then we will get I will hope we will get acquainted to each other. We'll do a little tool training with these two things. We'll take a look at the project plan. Uh there will be time for discussion. Actually we have to discuss because we have to create a product. And then we will close this session. Um but first of all we I'd like to uh introduce you to this room. Um as you probably have noticed there are little black uh fields on the table. Um you have to put your laptop exactly in that field so the little cameras can see your face. Um there are cameras everywhere around the room especially here for your face, of course, and this isn't a pie, it's a a set of microphones and there are microphones here also. But please uh don't be afraid of them. They won't hurt you. Derrick Eastman: Well Juan Jacob: Um well uh I said I'm Juan Jacob and uh I'm hoping uh for a good project and uh I'd like to hear uh who you are and what your functions are uh on this project. Let's start with the ladies. Derrick Eastman: Well uh I'm and my uh function is User Interface Design, I think. So uh that's Rodrigo Webb. Richard Simpson: Okay, uh I'm uh I'm Richard Simpson and I uh hope to uh look forward to uh a very uh pleasing uh end of this uh project. Juan Jacob: Okay, so Derrick Eastman: Rodrigo Webb too. Juan Jacob: I. Rodrigo Webb: My name's. I'm uh Marketing Expert My. job is in the company to promote company or promote products to the customers. So I also h hope we have a pleasant uh working with uh with each other. Juan Jacob: Okay, well we have some expertise from uh different pieces of the of the company. That's good. Um well I said uh we're working on a project and the aim for the project is to to create a to design a new remote control which uh has to be original, trendy and of course, user friendly. And uh I hope we have the expertise to create such a project such a product. Um the way we hope to achieve that is uh the following methods. It consists of three phases, namely the functional design, conceptual design and detailed design. As you can see, all of these phases consists of two parts, namely individual work part and a meeting where we will discuss uh our work so far. Okay. But first I will uh tell you something about the tools we have here. I already talked about the cameras and microphones, but they are not of uh much use to us. Uh we will have to take advantage of these two things. They are smart boards. As you can see, you can give a presentation on them. And uh this one here is a white board. I will uh instruct you about that soon. Um as you also noticed uh this presentation document is in our uh project folder and every document you put in this folder uh is uh it is possible to show that here in our meeting room. Um and yeah there are available on both smart boards but I think we will uh mainly use this one for the documents in the shared folder. As you can see, this is the same tool bar uh as is located here. Um the most functions uh we will use will be to to add a new page, um uh to go back and forward between pages, and of course uh to save it every now and then. Um and this is the pen with which you can draw on the board, for instance like this if everything's okay, but I first have to put it on the pen, you see I'm new to it too. Um and then you can Derrick Eastman: Oh. Juan Jacob: write things like test or whatever you want. As you can see you have to move it a little bit slow, it's not such a fast board, it's a smart board but also a slow board. Uh but you can write things and of course you can also, when you click here, uh erase things, so we have uh est left. And um you can also delete an entire page, but we ask you not to do that. Just simply create a new one and uh start all over because we want to save all the results. Um does everyone understand this Derrick Eastman: So Rodrigo Webb: Mm-hmm. Derrick Eastman: we Richard Simpson: Yeah. Derrick Eastman: can't erase Juan Jacob: nice application? Derrick Eastman: anything. Juan Jacob: Well you can erase it with the eraser, but uh you shouldn't delete an entire page, but just Derrick Eastman: Right. Juan Jacob: create a Rodrigo Webb: S Juan Jacob: new blank one. I will delete this one now because we don't use it yet. Derrick Eastman: Alright. Juan Jacob: But you can of course erase when you make a mistake, but don't uh delete entire pages. And you can also um let's see I think it's here uh change the uh colour of your pen, for instance take a blue one and uh change the line width like to five. Um that's what you will need for our first exercise, because I'm uh going to ask you to draw your favourite animal. It's also to gets to know each other because um Richard Simpson: Okay. Juan Jacob: I'm asking three things, uh for that uh drawing, to do it on a blank sheet, with different colours and I just showed you how to pick a colour, pen widths which I also showed you. Um and a favourite characteristic can be just uh one word. Well I'm not very good at drawing, but I will uh go first and um try to draw Or maybe you should guess what I'm drawing, eh. Rodrigo Webb: Good. Richard Simpson: Hmm. Rodrigo Webb: No. Derrick Eastman: It's a sheep. Rodrigo Webb: Dinos Richard Simpson: Seal, Rodrigo Webb: Dinosaur. Richard Simpson: a seal. Rodrigo Webb: Beaver. Richard Simpson: A be Derrick Eastman: A beaver. Juan Jacob: Well Derrick Eastman: It's Juan Jacob: it uh Derrick Eastman: weird. Juan Jacob: could be everything. Richard Simpson: Mm. With a tail and a mouth. Juan Jacob: Maybe when I put on Derrick Eastman: It has wings? Rodrigo Webb: Turtle. Juan Jacob: this thing it could be a turtle, Richard Simpson: Snail. Juan Jacob: or a snail, and Derrick Eastman: Well the snail doesn't have legs. Richard Simpson: Okay. Juan Jacob: But a turtle has. And those are slow. And I hope our project group will not be slow, but we will uh work to a good result and do it uh as fast as we can. Okay, time for another animal. Would you like to go next? Richard Simpson: Sure. Rodrigo Webb: No problem. No problem. Derrick Eastman: Oh right. Rodrigo Webb: Mm. It was four months? Rodrigo Webb: Nice, okay. Derrick Eastman: Well. Richard Simpson: The hell. Rodrigo Webb: To make it a little bit easier. Derrick Eastman: It's a giraffe. Richard Simpson: Make that cute. Rodrigo Webb: No, it's a giraffe. 'Kay. I think it's r uh to recognise as Derrick Eastman: Yes. Rodrigo Webb: a giraffe. Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Derrick Eastman: Giraffe. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah, the favourite charis characteristic is that the long neck, it can reach everything. And I hope I can also reach a lot with this project. So that's my favourite animal. Juan Jacob: Okay. Rodrigo Webb: Anything else you need Juan Jacob: Could Rodrigo Webb: to Juan Jacob: you Rodrigo Webb: know? Juan Jacob: write the words, uh underneath it? Rodrigo Webb: Oh, Juan Jacob: Or more words. Rodrigo Webb: uh Richard Simpson: Tall. Rodrigo Webb: Tall. So, 'kay. Derrick Eastman: Should I uh Alright. So I can draw, but uh Uh. Well. Oh. Richard Simpson: B Rodrigo Webb: It's a mouse. Richard Simpson: Bunny rabbit. Rodrigo Webb: A bunny rabbit. Derrick Eastman: Oh wrong one. Uh. Well uh you can guess what it is, I hope. Rodrigo Webb: Uh-huh. No problem. Derrick Eastman: It's a rabbit. Juan Jacob: Little rabbits. Derrick Eastman: And uh well uh it's uh quick, I guess. Derrick Eastman: That's uh my uh favourite animal. Juan Jacob: Okay, Richard Simpson: Okay. Juan Jacob: thank you. And our final drawing. Rodrigo Webb: Bob Ross. Rodrigo Webb: Dolphin. Derrick Eastman: A dolphin. Richard Simpson: Okay, um. Richard Simpson: Uh I uh draw I I've drawn a dolphin because of its intelligence. One of the Derrick Eastman: Right. Richard Simpson: most intelligent uh Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Richard Simpson: animals in our world. Derrick Eastman: Well. Richard Simpson: Yeah Derrick Eastman: With Richard Simpson: intelligent. Derrick Eastman: an E_. Richard Simpson: I've I've uh Eraser. Derrick Eastman: You can try out the eraser now. Richard Simpson: Pen. Well not perfect, but okay. Juan Jacob: Okay, well thank you very much. I can see we have some uh drawing talent uh in this group, Derrick Eastman: Not Juan Jacob: huh? Derrick Eastman: really. Juan Jacob: Well, nice animals, nice words. Sounds good. Um back to business, back to the money part. Um from the finance department I have learned that we are aiming for a selling price of twenty five Euros. And we're hoping for a aim of fifty million Euros and uh we are hoping to achieve that uh by aiming for an international market. And the production cost will be twelve Euro fifty max. Okay, well it's time uh for some discussion. I've wrote down some examples here of what we can can speak about. Uh what's your experience with remote controls, um what kind of ideas do you have to design a new remote control, maybe for which market segments should we aim, or should we aim for all segments. Uh well actually I'd like to hand the word uh back to you. What's your experience with remote control? Richard Simpson: A Derrick Eastman: I Richard Simpson: lot Derrick Eastman: always Richard Simpson: of buttons. Derrick Eastman: lose them. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Richard Simpson: And you always lose them. Derrick Eastman: Yes. Richard Simpson: A lot of buttons which Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Richard Simpson: you don't use Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Richard Simpson: or who you don't use Rodrigo Webb: Complex. Richard Simpson: Complex. Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Richard Simpson: Not user friendly. Rodrigo Webb: No. Derrick Eastman: search for the buttons, which one is Rodrigo Webb: No. Derrick Eastman: which and uh Rodrigo Webb: Boring. Juan Jacob: Boring, it's not fun to use a Rodrigo Webb: No. Juan Jacob: remote. Richard Simpson: Mm. Rodrigo Webb: Black, all black. Derrick Eastman: Well. Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Rodrigo Webb: So, Richard Simpson: Black colours. Rodrigo Webb: yeah. Juan Jacob: Well maybe we should try to make it fun. Rodrigo Webb: Mm-hmm. Richard Simpson: They use batteries and batteries uh and poor signal. Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Richard Simpson: Uh. Rodrigo Webb: The the Derrick Eastman: Perhaps that Rodrigo Webb: angle Derrick Eastman: you have a Rodrigo Webb: you Derrick Eastman: lot Rodrigo Webb: have Derrick Eastman: of Rodrigo Webb: to use. Derrick Eastman: road remotes r road Rodrigo Webb: You had different Derrick Eastman: con Rodrigo Webb: remote Derrick Eastman: remote Rodrigo Webb: controls Richard Simpson: Yeah, Derrick Eastman: controls. Richard Simpson: different Rodrigo Webb: for Richard Simpson: remote Rodrigo Webb: different Richard Simpson: controls, Rodrigo Webb: devices. Derrick Eastman: Yes, Richard Simpson: yeah. Derrick Eastman: perhaps Rodrigo Webb: Yes. Derrick Eastman: you can integrate them or something. Richard Simpson: Uh for the use of different Derrick Eastman: Yes. Richard Simpson: uh devices. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Derrick Eastman: Your Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Derrick Eastman: stereo and your T_V_ and uh. Perhaps Rodrigo Webb: Yeah Derrick Eastman: that's Rodrigo Webb: but Derrick Eastman: an idea. Rodrigo Webb: then again you you still have a lot of buttons, Derrick Eastman: Yeah, that's right. Rodrigo Webb: so Richard Simpson: Yeah but Derrick Eastman: And Richard Simpson: you could Derrick Eastman: which you Richard Simpson: uh Derrick Eastman: don't Richard Simpson: I Derrick Eastman: use. Richard Simpson: thin uh there's a possibility to g uh to uh to put those buttons uh behind some uh kind of uh Rodrigo Webb: Flap Richard Simpson: protection so Rodrigo Webb: yeah. Richard Simpson: that Derrick Eastman: Right. Richard Simpson: if y y you only get to see them when you need 'em. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah, okay, that's possible, Richard Simpson: That's possible, so that Rodrigo Webb: but it'll Richard Simpson: you only Rodrigo Webb: get very Richard Simpson: get the Rodrigo Webb: big the Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Rodrigo Webb: the remote Richard Simpson: No Rodrigo Webb: control. Richard Simpson: n Derrick Eastman: You Richard Simpson: n no, Derrick Eastman: should Richard Simpson: just Derrick Eastman: just give it to. Richard Simpson: Uh for example you got th uh the same size uh remote control you use everyday, but um Rodrigo Webb: Mm-hmm. Richard Simpson: the usual buttons such as uh um zapping uh as you call it in Dutch. Uh and the volume Derrick Eastman: Changing Richard Simpson: control Derrick Eastman: channel. Richard Simpson: uh are only the only possible buttons uh to use directly. Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Rodrigo Webb: Mm-hmm. Richard Simpson: Or uh Rodrigo Webb: numbers. Richard Simpson: the numbers, of course. But uh Rodrigo Webb: On and off. Richard Simpson: not uh the buttons used to search on the the channels on your television. You only use those uh the first time, or. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah, play, Richard Simpson: So. Rodrigo Webb: pause, stop. Richard Simpson: Uh. Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. So maybe a a minimalist design, Richard Simpson: Yeah, Juan Jacob: the Richard Simpson: I Juan Jacob: least Richard Simpson: think so, Juan Jacob: uh possible Derrick Eastman: Yes. Richard Simpson: yeah. Juan Jacob: amount uh of buttons. Derrick Eastman: But you should make sure that you have every button they need on it. Rodrigo Webb: Mm-hmm, Derrick Eastman: Because Rodrigo Webb: of Derrick Eastman: uh Rodrigo Webb: course. Derrick Eastman: things for uh teletext, I dunno Richard Simpson: Yeah, Derrick Eastman: uh, w what's Richard Simpson: uh Derrick Eastman: the name? Richard Simpson: teletext. Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Richard Simpson: think so. Okay. Juan Jacob: So you don't want to bother people with uh loads of buttons, but Rodrigo Webb: No. Juan Jacob: on the other hand they need many buttons so they don't have to get out of their seat. Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Derrick Eastman: But Richard Simpson: Right. Rodrigo Webb: Because I think a market will be all kind of people. Elderly p el elderly, Derrick Eastman: But if Rodrigo Webb: young Derrick Eastman: if it's Rodrigo Webb: people, Derrick Eastman: if it's international Rodrigo Webb: so. Derrick Eastman: you should uh look in think in Britain they have uh different things they can do with the T_V_, or so uh that you can choose what you want to see. I dunno if you should uh take that in consideration, or Richard Simpson: Uh. Derrick Eastman: that you just should aim for the normal T_V_s that uh Rodrigo Webb: Yeah Richard Simpson: Yeah Rodrigo Webb: I Richard Simpson: I Rodrigo Webb: think Richard Simpson: I understand. Rodrigo Webb: that's the better Derrick Eastman: And Rodrigo Webb: one, Derrick Eastman: the B_B_C_. Rodrigo Webb: because I think if you you're going to target a lot of people and the whole world and only Britain then I think Derrick Eastman: Yes. Richard Simpson: No. Rodrigo Webb: the cost will uh rise higher than the twelve fifty, I think. Derrick Eastman: Yeah, I don't know if the Rodrigo Webb: I think Derrick Eastman: they have Rodrigo Webb: the Derrick Eastman: that anywhere Rodrigo Webb: aim is Derrick Eastman: else, Rodrigo Webb: better to Derrick Eastman: though. Rodrigo Webb: use uh the whole world and Britain, Richard Simpson: Yeah. Rodrigo Webb: yeah. Derrick Eastman: Yeah, we can leave Richard Simpson: When I think Rodrigo Webb: Not Richard Simpson: of Derrick Eastman: that. Rodrigo Webb: that Richard Simpson: it Rodrigo Webb: much. Richard Simpson: uh I think the main idea uh of this remote remote control is uh to make it user friendly. So uh I think uh when p uh when uh the customers will buy this remote control, they already have uh the remote control which uh companies uh Rodrigo Webb: Mm. Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Richard Simpson: uh Rodrigo Webb: Standard Richard Simpson: with uh Rodrigo Webb: deliver. Richard Simpson: the the standards uh remote control with which comes uh with the television. Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Rodrigo Webb: Mm. Richard Simpson: So uh it only has to have uh the most used buttons. You don't have to integrate the buttons to search the channels on your television. In Rodrigo Webb: No Richard Simpson: those Derrick Eastman: Well but Rodrigo Webb: but Richard Simpson: in Derrick Eastman: but Richard Simpson: that Derrick Eastman: then you have to to Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Derrick Eastman: find your other remote Rodrigo Webb: Yeah, Derrick Eastman: control if Rodrigo Webb: th Derrick Eastman: you want to search. Rodrigo Webb: it Derrick Eastman: That's Rodrigo Webb: it's Derrick Eastman: not Rodrigo Webb: I think Richard Simpson: Yeah but Rodrigo Webb: that's Richard Simpson: I Rodrigo Webb: not Richard Simpson: but it is impossible to uh to accommodate uh accommodate uh all the buttons on the s on the difference different Derrick Eastman: Yeah, that's Richard Simpson: televisions sets Derrick Eastman: right. Richard Simpson: on one remote control. It's impossible. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah, okay. Richard Simpson: Because uh for example Sony television uh has the opportunity to s to make uh uh to make it possible for to see on one side of the screen uh teletext, and on the other side Rodrigo Webb: No. Richard Simpson: uh just Derrick Eastman: Yeah Richard Simpson: n uh regular Derrick Eastman: that's Richard Simpson: television. Derrick Eastman: uh. Richard Simpson: Uh Rodrigo Webb: I think n m n most televisions nowadays do this. Richard Simpson: Yeah, but uh they Derrick Eastman: Well Richard Simpson: don't Derrick Eastman: not everywhere. Richard Simpson: use Rodrigo Webb: So Richard Simpson: the same signal, Rodrigo Webb: I think numerals. Richard Simpson: uh on remote control. Because you can't use a Panasonic uh remote control on a on a Philips television. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah, but then you have to choose the this always with r universal remotes you have to choose Derrick Eastman: Yeah, you Rodrigo Webb: the Derrick Eastman: can choose Rodrigo Webb: code. Derrick Eastman: the code. Rodrigo Webb: You Richard Simpson: Okay. Rodrigo Webb: can use which which Richard Simpson: Okay. Rodrigo Webb: type of television you have. That's no problem. Richard Simpson: Okay. Rodrigo Webb: But I think like the two pages on the same screen, like teletext and normal television, that's that's nowadays standard, I think. Richard Simpson: Okay, but uh I think that most people uh th uh will buy the remote control because because uh Rodrigo Webb: Simplicity. Richard Simpson: the first they lost the one they lost first one or Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Richard Simpson: the first one is broken, so Rodrigo Webb: Yeah, yeah. Richard Simpson: uh uh perhaps they have a got a an older television, Rodrigo Webb: Mm-hmm. Richard Simpson: so that option is not Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah Richard Simpson: uh Rodrigo Webb: g available. Richard Simpson: optional for those uh people. Derrick Eastman: But Rodrigo Webb: True. Derrick Eastman: the people have a new television, and c if you look into the future, then they want will Richard Simpson: Yeah, Derrick Eastman: want Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Derrick Eastman: the button, if Richard Simpson: yeah. Derrick Eastman: their thing is broke. Richard Simpson: So we should take that in consideration. Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Rodrigo Webb: Mm-hmm. Juan Jacob: Mm-hmm. Rodrigo Webb: Mm-hmm. Juan Jacob: Okay, well any more ideas? Richard Simpson: Oh mm, no. Rodrigo Webb: Of course. Juan Jacob: No? Derrick Eastman: Guess not. Richard Simpson: Things'll come up. Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Juan Jacob: Okay, yeah well we have some time. Let's see what more I have to tell you. I don't think there is much left. Nope. We're starting to close. Um our next meeting uh will start well we're a little bit early, but our next meeting will start in in thirty minutes. In the meantime uh there's time for some uh individual actions. Um, as you can see, the different roles have uh different tasks. And there's a ping. Is it my laptop? Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Juan Jacob: Yep. Richard Simpson: Stop the meeting Juan Jacob: Ah Richard Simpson: now. Derrick Eastman: Yeah meeting will close Juan Jacob: well Derrick Eastman: in five Juan Jacob: that's Derrick Eastman: minutes. Juan Jacob: good, five minutes and uh the meeting's over, uh Richard Simpson: Okay. Juan Jacob: right on schedule. Um Rodrigo Webb will uh will take a look at the user requirement specification. Derrick Eastman will work out the technical functions design. And this was the Interface Designer? Or Derrick Eastman: Hmm Juan Jacob: the Interaction Richard Simpson: Mm. Derrick Eastman: hmm. Juan Jacob: Designer. Or what was Derrick Eastman: No Richard Simpson: No? Rodrigo Webb: Interface. Derrick Eastman: interface. Juan Jacob: it, I_D_? Interface Designer, okay, first guess was right. Uh will take a look at the the working design. Richard Simpson: No, the Industrial Derrick Eastman: No Richard Simpson: Designer Derrick Eastman: the Richard Simpson: will take Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Richard Simpson: a look at the working design, and the in uh usability interaction Juan Jacob: Industrial Designer, okay, Richard Simpson: Yeah, okay. Juan Jacob: sorry. Richard Simpson: Okay. Juan Jacob: Let's just use the acronyms. Derrick Eastman: So Juan Jacob: Um and of course specific instructions uh will be sent to you uh through your personal coach. Derrick Eastman: So I should look at uh what you should be able to do with the remote, or uh, or how Juan Jacob: Uh Derrick Eastman: I don't Juan Jacob: well Derrick Eastman: really Juan Jacob: those instructions will be uh Derrick Eastman: Right. Juan Jacob: in the email you will receive Derrick Eastman: Alright. Juan Jacob: uh shortly, I hope. Derrick Eastman: Rodrigo Webb too. Juan Jacob: And of course you have your own uh expertise. Well uh Rodrigo Webb: Uh-huh. Juan Jacob: that was what I had to say. Uh Richard Simpson: Okay. Juan Jacob: are there any more questions? Rodrigo Webb: No. Richard Simpson: No. Juan Jacob: No? Okay well I think then we have to head uh back to our offices and uh start working. Rodrigo Webb: I have one Richard Simpson: Okay. Rodrigo Webb: question. Juan Jacob: Okay, one question? Richard Simpson: Oh. Rodrigo Webb: Where does it says we have to make a remote, because I presumed She didn't know who. Okay, no, no problem. Juan Jacob: Okay we're still going. Richard Simpson: No problem. Rodrigo Webb: No Juan Jacob: Okay, Rodrigo Webb: problem. Juan Jacob: well I expect Richard Simpson: Okay. Juan Jacob: everything will be much clearer with the Rodrigo Webb: Yeah. Juan Jacob: instructions we will receive uh shortly. Rodrigo Webb: Mm-hmm. Derrick Eastman: Alright. Juan Jacob: Okay well Richard Simpson: Alrighty. Juan Jacob: uh see you all in about thirty minutes, then. Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Richard Simpson: Okay. Juan Jacob: Thank you very much. Derrick Eastman: Yeah. Okay.

Juan Jacob acquainted the team with the tools and equipment around them and then had the team members introduce themselves by name and what role they had in the project. Juan Jacob then introduced the upcoming project along with more tools and equipment to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animals. After the drawing exercise, Juan Jacob talked about the project finances and production costs. The team then discussed their experiences with remotes and various features to consider when producing a remote.

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Angel Chaney: Mm uh. Frank Voss: We're Angel Chaney: Mm. Frank Voss: the first. Angel Chaney: We're first. Frank Voss: Marketing Expert yes, Barton Levey: Mm. Barton Levey: So you found your spots. Frank Voss: Yes. Angel Chaney: Move Frank Voss: Bling Angel Chaney: to the Frank Voss: bling. Angel Chaney: meeting room. Frank Voss: Yeah. Angel Chaney: Okay. Frank Voss: Right. Barton Levey: Okay. Frank Voss: Uh where has my screen gone? Adam Draudt: Hi. Angel Chaney: Hello, good day. Adam Draudt: Oh yeah, Frank Voss: Hmm. Adam Draudt: we have to talk in, huh. Angel Chaney: Yep. Frank Voss: Yeah. My screen is gone. Oh. Barton Levey: It's called black. Angel Chaney: Kick-off meeting, wow. Adam Draudt: I'm Angel Chaney: It's uh Adam Draudt: afraid Angel Chaney: looks Adam Draudt: I'm a Angel Chaney: uh Adam Draudt: bit Angel Chaney: nice. Adam Draudt: slow for this stuff uh. Angel Chaney: Hmm? Barton Levey: Okay. Adam Draudt: I'm afraid I'm a bit too slow. I don't know how much preparation you guys Angel Chaney: Yeah. Adam Draudt: did, but not Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: a lot. Angel Chaney: No, it's it was uh Barton Levey: You Angel Chaney: not enough. Barton Levey: see this beautiful presentation. Frank Voss: Yeah. Very Barton Levey: Okay Frank Voss: nice. Barton Levey: let's get started. Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Uh I sort of prepared this. Uh opening acquaintance, tool training, uh how to use the things here. Frank Voss: Mm. Barton Levey: Uh project plan discussion, and yeah then the rest of the meeting. Adam Draudt: Mm-hmm. Barton Levey: Um we're supposed to develop a new remote control, that's both original, trendy and user-friendly. So, hope you have good ideas. I don't. Angel Chaney: I did my best. Adam Draudt: Not Barton Levey: we're Adam Draudt: yet. Barton Levey: work we're working uh from top to bottom. Uh functional design, then we do some in individual work, then we have a meeting to discuss the results, etcetera etcetera. And at the end of the day we should have a prototype drawn up. Uh we have available the smart board and the whiteboard. Um uh we should take some practice. I have some instructions now to do that. Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Uh well you know how to the documents work. So Uh this for toolbar. You see it next. Um we have a pen. And we can use this pen to perform. Adam Draudt: Operations. Barton Levey: Yes. So It doesn't always work. Yes. Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Okay so you can draw. Frank Voss: Draw. Barton Levey: Okay Frank Voss: Alright. Barton Levey: and in the format menu you can select colour and line width, etcetera etcetera. Frank Voss: 'Kay. Barton Levey: Okay? Uh Okay. Each of you can uh take some practice and you should draw an animal. Uh you should explain Uh with different colours and with different pen widths. And you should explain why you draw that particular animal. So, Julian. Angel Chaney: Okay. Frank Voss: Don't take up too much space. Angel Chaney: Um yeah. Adam Draudt: Different pen widths, how do you do that? Barton Levey: Uh with the format menu. Adam Draudt: Oh okay. Barton Levey: And use different colours etcetera. Adam Draudt: Are Barton Levey: And Adam Draudt: you serious? Barton Levey: what's that supposed to be? Angel Chaney: It's a Frank Voss: Should it Angel Chaney: giraffe. Frank Voss: be one Angel Chaney: Yeah. Barton Levey: Oh yeah. Oh yeah four legs. Angel Chaney: Okay. Barton Levey: Uh-huh. Frank Voss: Giraffe's yellow. Angel Chaney: Uh it needs some uh some yellow uh Oh format. Frank Voss: Can you use one blank sheet per drawing? Or Barton Levey: Yeah. Frank Voss: y you must save it at the end and then Barton Levey: Yeah you can press the next button, which is uh yeah. Angel Chaney: That's some spots. Barton Levey: I'll show Adam Draudt: I Barton Levey: you. Adam Draudt: in the file option menu. Barton Levey: Yeah. In file menu. Frank Voss: Okay, then m make a new one. Adam Draudt: How much time do we have to draw anyway? 'Cause I can Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: take forever on this. Angel Chaney: Okay. Do I have to explain uh why I chose this uh this animal? Barton Levey: Yeah. Angel Chaney: I think it's a it's a great animal. Barton Levey: What is it? Angel Chaney: It's a it's a giraffe. Barton Levey: A giraffe okay. Angel Chaney: Yeah, Barton Levey: Yeah Angel Chaney: that's Barton Levey: I see Angel Chaney: a Barton Levey: a long neck but Frank Voss: It's more like a dinosaur. Angel Chaney: Um Okay I'll will give it an uh an eye. Barton Levey: Okay. Frank Voss: Uh. Barton Levey: That's nice of you. Angel Chaney: Hey. Come on. Frank Voss: Some leaf to eat. Barton Levey: Okay. Yeah pretty good. Uh could you press the next uh Angel Chaney: The next? Yes. Barton Levey: Okay. Then Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: uh. Angel Chaney: Here you go. Frank Voss: Thanks. Angel Chaney: Hmm. Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: Is this part of our a acquai or introduction Barton Levey: Yeah Adam Draudt: to each Barton Levey: sorry, Adam Draudt: other? Barton Levey: introduction Frank Voss: Uh Barton Levey: and get acquainted and Adam Draudt: Alright. Barton Levey: That's the idea, so Adam Draudt: Uh. Your line broke. Frank Voss: Yeah. Alright. It's Barton Levey: Yeah Frank Voss: not Barton Levey: it's Frank Voss: that Barton Levey: a bit Frank Voss: fast. Barton Levey: slow, so Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Yeah. Frank Voss: I see. It misses the spot. Barton Levey: pressure. Adam Draudt: I'm guessing a turtle. No. I'm kidding. Frank Voss: I say good guess. Uh Barton Levey: Why a turtle? Adam Draudt: Because of its shell. Frank Voss: Because it's slow. Barton Levey: It's Angel Chaney: 'Cause Barton Levey: slow. Angel Chaney: it's so 'cause it's Barton Levey: You Angel Chaney: green. Barton Levey: were slow too so Frank Voss: Yeah I was a bit slow too. Adam Draudt: Dude you're Frank Voss: So Adam Draudt: a good drawer. Frank Voss: Uh some other line uh width uh Adam Draudt: Do you have a turtle pet? Frank Voss: No. Adam Draudt: Uh okay. Frank Voss: I dunno. Does it have legs? Adam Draudt: Yeah yeah Barton Levey: Yeah Adam Draudt: yeah. Barton Levey: sure. Frank Voss: Yeah? Barton Levey: Yeah not exactly legs but Adam Draudt: Stumpy Barton Levey: More Adam Draudt: stuff. Barton Levey: like fins or Frank Voss: It's more like a tank. Yeah that's fins but I don't Adam Draudt: They Frank Voss: know Adam Draudt: kind Frank Voss: where. Adam Draudt: of l look like mole legs. With sharp nails Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: on. Frank Voss: Some spots. Ah some eye. Barton Levey: Yeah it's l looks Frank Voss: Yeah Barton Levey: very friendly. Frank Voss: that's a fr friendly turtle I guess. Yeah well I think it's uh fair enough. Barton Levey: Yeah okay. Adam Draudt: A little tail maybe. Frank Voss: Right. I don't know what the position is. Does it have ears? Adam Draudt: Uh no. Barton Levey: No. Frank Voss: No. Angel Chaney: No. Frank Voss: Oh okay. Adam Draudt: The little holes Frank Voss: Can you Adam Draudt: maybe. Frank Voss: erase ears or Barton Levey: Yeah yeah yeah. Frank Voss: Yeah? Barton Levey: There's a a gum, Frank Voss: Alright. Barton Levey: gum Frank Voss: Eraser. Barton Levey: to. Adam Draudt: And Frank Voss: So Adam Draudt: why did you choose this animal? Barton Levey: He Frank Voss: I Barton Levey: said Frank Voss: dunno. Barton Levey: it was slow. Frank Voss: I it just came into my mind. So Adam Draudt: Alright. Frank Voss: there's no particular reason I pen. Barton Levey: I like it. Frank Voss: Yeah. Well I'm guess I'm done. Barton Levey: Okay. Frank Voss: That's my turtle. Barton Levey: Your turn Adam Draudt: Alright. Barton Levey: Niels. Frank Voss: How to select the next or Barton Levey: The next Frank Voss: here. Barton Levey: yeah. Frank Voss: Yeah. Here you go. Barton Levey: Makes new Adam Draudt: Colours Barton Levey: paper. Adam Draudt: were under format right? Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: Let's see. Barton Levey: Orange. Adam Draudt: How am I gonna do this? Um Adam Draudt: Mm uh. Angel Chaney: A rabbit I Barton Levey: Kangaroo. Angel Chaney: think. Kangaroo. Adam Draudt: Not quite actually. Angel Chaney: Fox. Frank Voss: A fox yeah. Firefox. Barton Levey: Dog. Adam Draudt: No. Barton Levey: Cat. Adam Draudt: Aye. Barton Levey: It's a cat. Adam Draudt: It's a cat. Angel Chaney: Mm. Adam Draudt: Not Frank Voss: A cat Adam Draudt: quite Frank Voss: who Adam Draudt: yet Frank Voss: had an Adam Draudt: through. Frank Voss: accident or Barton Levey: Why a cat? Adam Draudt: Uh yeah I dunno. They're my favourite pets. Barton Levey: You have some uh? Adam Draudt: Uh I have colour already. Yeah I'm not so good at drawing with this kind of st Oh shit. Um Barton Levey: The pen, yeah. Adam Draudt: Excuse my language. Barton Levey: Sure. Adam Draudt: I don't know how to draw its face. But you get the idea. It's Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: a cat. It's Barton Levey: Alright. Adam Draudt: my favourite uh pet animal, 'cause they're cute, they're independent and cuddly, I dunno. Barton Levey: Okay. Adam Draudt: That's it. Or do I Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: need to use more colours and Barton Levey: I think it's okay. Adam Draudt: Alright. Barton Levey: You get idea Adam Draudt: Yeah. Barton Levey: right? Okay um we have a financial aspect to this project. Um we can sell them at twenty five Euros. Uh the aim is to reach uh uh to sell as much as fifty million Euros. Uh that's quite a big amount of money. And the production cost should be the half of the selling price. Adam Draudt: So we have Barton Levey: Okay Adam Draudt: to s Barton Levey: now it's time for some discussion. Angel Chaney: Okay. Barton Levey: Uh Angel Chaney: What uh what uh do you want to discuss? Adam Draudt: Yeah. Barton Levey: Yeah. We should get started. Frank Voss: Yeah. Angel Chaney: Yep. Barton Levey: Uh I'm taking notes. Frank Voss: Okay. Great. Barton Levey: Um we each have a specific task, as I saw in my mail. Adam Draudt: Mm-hmm. Barton Levey: I Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: didn't know if you received the same mail. Yeah? Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: I guess so. Barton Levey: Okay Adam Draudt: Yeah. Barton Levey: so the um uh this industrati Industrial Designer should produce a working design. Am I correct? Adam Draudt: True. Barton Levey: Okay. Uh Angel Chaney should specify the technical functions. Right? Angel Chaney: Yep. Barton Levey: Yeah? And the Marketing uh Expert should come up with user requirements. Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Uh did any of you already do some work on this part or Adam Draudt: Well I started making an overview for myself, um what I had to do, 'cause we have three design steps and in every step I have Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Adam Draudt: a s specific task to perform or whatever. Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Adam Draudt: So I had to uh, I dunno, make an overview for myself about Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Adam Draudt: what I have to do, and kind of let it work in to get ideas about Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. And Adam Draudt: well how Barton Levey: do you Adam Draudt: I Barton Levey: have Adam Draudt: have to fill Barton Levey: any Adam Draudt: it. Barton Levey: ideas about the product Adam Draudt: Well I started Barton Levey: uh so far? Adam Draudt: I started with the first phase, I think was the functional. Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Adam Draudt: And uh let's see I had to focus on the working design, which Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Adam Draudt: you said. How does the apparatus work? And well I basically had two points. Uh according to the coffee uh machine example, Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: I have batteries to supply energy, and we ye use button presses to activate or deactivate certain functions on Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Adam Draudt: the T_V_. Barton Levey: Okay. Adam Draudt: And that's basically all I have so far. Barton Levey: Yeah I got another point. It uses infrared light Angel Chaney: Yeah. Barton Levey: to communicate Angel Chaney: Wireless Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: the Angel Chaney: uh Barton Levey: signal Angel Chaney: huh. Barton Levey: to Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: the Adam Draudt: Alright. Barton Levey: T_V_ apparatus or stereo. Adam Draudt: Yeah. Frank Voss: So that's very common. Angel Chaney: Uh it's uh some buttons for for the on off function. You d you already told that. And for the changing up to the to all the channels and changing the volume. That Adam Draudt: Yeah. Angel Chaney: are the the basic options for a remote control. Adam Draudt: Yeah I kept it global 'cause that it activates or deactivates specific functions, 'cause Angel Chaney: Okay, Adam Draudt: I wasn't Angel Chaney: yeah. Adam Draudt: thinking yet about that. I mean, you wanna ch ch flip Angel Chaney: Yeah. Adam Draudt: the channel but you might wanna use teletext also. Angel Chaney: Yep. Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: I dunno what the word is in English. Uh Barton Levey: Same I believe. Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Uh and what did Frank Voss do? Frank Voss: Uh well from a marketing uh perspective, um well the function des design phase uh consists out of the user requirements. Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Frank Voss: Um what needs and desires are to be fulfilled? So there are a few means to reach that um by by doing research Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Frank Voss: uh to see what existing products are there out in the market. I mean, what functions do they Barton Levey: Mm. Frank Voss: have. Um especially what are their shortcomings? Are there any Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Frank Voss: new functions uh which can be added to our Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Frank Voss: product? Um therefore we have to to do some internet search. Barton Levey: Yep. Frank Voss: For example for um well what kind of applications do current remote controls support, and what are f featur features of uh current and future televisions? Barton Levey: Yes. Frank Voss: So we can see uh what needs to be supported. Um and we can interview current users and future users. What w what would Barton Levey: Okay. Frank Voss: they like to see uh on a new remote control? Barton Levey: Okay. Frank Voss: Um especially for future users, uh I'm thinking of early adopters, because they they use new technology first, Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Frank Voss: and they play with a lot of tools and stuff so maybe they have some good ideas to uh Barton Levey: Okay. Frank Voss: to add. Barton Levey: And you can get that information? Frank Voss: I think I can get that information, yeah. Barton Levey: Okay. That Frank Voss: So Barton Levey: would be very handy. Frank Voss: yeah. Barton Levey: Um but have you any idea so far as what uh the user requirements are? Frank Voss: No n not specifically. More Barton Levey: No? Frank Voss: to how to get them and Barton Levey: No Angel Chaney: I Barton Levey: okay. Angel Chaney: got some uh requirements it has Barton Levey: Yeah? Frank Voss: Yeah? Angel Chaney: uh it has to be user-friendly. Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: Yeah. Barton Levey: Of course. Adam Draudt: Obviously. Angel Chaney: Uh really easy to use buttons, not not uh very small buttons, but not the the also the big big buttons, but just normal buttons. It has to be a small unit. It has to be uh yeah, you can take it with you uh everywhere in in your house. So it has n has not to be l yeah, gigantic uh Barton Levey: Big, Angel Chaney: machine. Barton Levey: mm-hmm. Frank Voss: Yeah. Angel Chaney: Uh and a and a good uh zapping range. Barton Levey: Uh what do you mean by that? Frank Voss: Yeah. Angel Chaney: Uh the distance uh from your television to your uh remote control has to be, uh yeah um yeah, quite a big distance. Frank Voss: Yeah. Angel Chaney: It has to be capable for zapping uh Frank Voss: From the other end of the Angel Chaney: Yeah. Frank Voss: room or something? Yeah. Barton Levey: Okay um Well I don't think I have anything more to add at the moment. Um I think the best is to go to work. Adam Draudt: Whoa. Is that you or Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: alright. Barton Levey: Okay. Frank Voss: Any more points to discuss? Barton Levey: Yeah. I think we can go ahead with what we have. I will summarise the things we discussed and put it in the project folder. Uh the use of Adam Draudt can work on the working design, etcetera etcetera. And it seems you get more information by email. Frank Voss: Alright. Barton Levey: So Adam Draudt: Alright. Angel Chaney: Okay. Barton Levey: that was it for Frank Voss. Frank Voss: 'Kay. Thanks. Barton Levey: Uh Angel Chaney: Are you going to put the the notes on the Barton Levey: Yeah, Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: in the project Frank Voss: The pro Barton Levey: folder. Frank Voss: okay. Angel Chaney: Okay. Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: Alright. Barton Levey: I'm writing very fast. Angel Chaney: Yeah. Frank Voss: Yeah. Okay. Barton Levey: Hope it's readable. Frank Voss: Uh. Angel Chaney: Yep. Barton Levey: Okay Frank Voss: I guess Barton Levey: um Frank Voss: so. Barton Levey: anything more you want to add to the discussion? Adam Draudt: Well no I'm just a bit wondering what we're gonna do the next uh Angel Chaney: Yeah. Do we only have Adam Draudt: session? Angel Chaney: to to do uh phase one, the functional design uh? Barton Levey: Yeah. Because then we have a Angel Chaney: After that we are going to the conceptual uh Barton Levey: Yeah. Frank Voss: Yeah. We're just Barton Levey: Y Frank Voss: working Barton Levey: you Frank Voss: the three Barton Levey: do some Frank Voss: phases. Barton Levey: individual work, we have meeting, individual work, meeting. And at the end of the day we have a final meeting. And then I have to prepare uh I have to defend our design, so make it good. Adam Draudt: Yeah Frank Voss: Okay. Adam Draudt: okay. We'll do our Angel Chaney: Okay. Adam Draudt: best. Barton Levey: I Frank Voss: Better Barton Levey: depend Frank Voss: make it Barton Levey: on you. Adam Draudt: I am gonna work on the conceptual design already 'cause Barton Levey: Yeah? Adam Draudt: yeah it's Barton Levey: If Adam Draudt: fairly Barton Levey: you can mix Adam Draudt: important Barton Levey: it it's okay. Adam Draudt: to know what kind of components we want Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Adam Draudt: to put in. Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: Do we I mean, is it gonna be a multimedia control centre? Do we want to be able to use the video recorder Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: with it? Barton Levey: Yeah. Frank Voss: That is my question also because like Barton Levey: Well Frank Voss: new Barton Levey: I Frank Voss: new Barton Levey: think Frank Voss: functions Barton Levey: that is the user Frank Voss: Requirements. Barton Levey: requirements part. Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: As to what Adam Draudt: Yeah. Barton Levey: they want. Adam Draudt: True. Barton Levey: Uh do they want all those functions on Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: that small Adam Draudt: But but we Frank Voss: Unit. Adam Draudt: need good communication Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: about this stuff, 'cause I have to f put the components into the design. Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Angel Chaney: I would Adam Draudt: So Angel Chaney: first Adam Draudt: if Angel Chaney: m Adam Draudt: I don't know what Frank Voss: Yeah Adam Draudt: components Frank Voss: well Adam Draudt: to put in, Frank Voss: I I was Barton Levey: Yeah Adam Draudt: it's kind Angel Chaney: Yeah. Adam Draudt: of Barton Levey: I Adam Draudt: hard. Barton Levey: understand. Angel Chaney: I I think we have first to start with the basic functions Frank Voss: Yeah Angel Chaney: and we can uh Frank Voss: well Barton Levey: You Angel Chaney: expand Barton Levey: can Frank Voss: like Barton Levey: always Frank Voss: l Angel Chaney: them. Barton Levey: add Frank Voss: li Barton Levey: a Frank Voss: like Barton Levey: few Frank Voss: some Angel Chaney: Yeah. Frank Voss: like some some remotes who are out there, which I know, there's one button which is very easy to switch between devices. Barton Levey: Yeah. Frank Voss: So you can switch to your video and Barton Levey: Hmm, Frank Voss: then Barton Levey: the Frank Voss: the same Barton Levey: C_D_ Frank Voss: buttons Barton Levey: player. Frank Voss: control your video. Barton Levey: Yeah. Angel Chaney: Yeah. Frank Voss: And another function I'll think of switch to your media centre, because that's getting very popular. Adam Draudt: Yeah Frank Voss: And Adam Draudt: so Frank Voss: then use your Windows media centre under your T_V_ with the same remote control. Barton Levey: Yeah. Frank Voss: So Adam Draudt: Okay. Frank Voss: with the switch, one single switch Adam Draudt: Yeah Barton Levey: Okay. Adam Draudt: I I know what you mean, but you'll ne need several other buttons for a video Frank Voss: S Adam Draudt: player. You need a play Barton Levey: Mm-hmm. Adam Draudt: and a forw fast forward and a stop Frank Voss: Yeah Adam Draudt: function. Frank Voss: records Adam Draudt: And Frank Voss: and Barton Levey: Okay. Adam Draudt: you Frank Voss: stuff Adam Draudt: you Frank Voss: like Adam Draudt: don't Frank Voss: that. Adam Draudt: need that for a T_V_. Frank Voss: No. Adam Draudt: And and for a t uh teletext Barton Levey: You need additional Adam Draudt: you need Barton Levey: yeah. Angel Chaney: Yeah. Adam Draudt: additional buttons as well, so Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: I kind of need Barton Levey: Uh Adam Draudt: to know what we uh need. Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: Whatever, I'll just put my ideas in uh Barton Levey: Yeah. Adam Draudt: in here and then we can Frank Voss: In Adam Draudt: discuss Frank Voss: the project Adam Draudt: it Frank Voss: uh Adam Draudt: with the next uh Frank Voss: Yeah. Barton Levey: Yeah. We could just start with the assumption Adam Draudt: meeting. Barton Levey: that's only for T_V_ and video. And um reserve the possibility to add Adam Draudt: Okay. Barton Levey: other features. So Adam Draudt: Okay. Barton Levey: we have a basic starting point and you can always extend that so make sure it's extendible. Angel Chaney: Yeah Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: Alright. Barton Levey: Yeah. Angel Chaney: it it has yeah it has to be user-friendly. So it's hasn't it's yeah. Barton Levey: Th the least amount of Angel Chaney: Yeah. Barton Levey: functions possible so it's Angel Chaney: Okay. Barton Levey: easier to get to know Adam Draudt: Yeah. Barton Levey: how it Angel Chaney: Yeah. Adam Draudt: I Barton Levey: works etcetera. Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: understand. Yeah. Barton Levey: Yeah? Okay Adam Draudt: Alright. Frank Voss: Yes. Barton Levey: and uh I'll see you again uh when the computer tells us to. Adam Draudt: Yeah. Angel Chaney: Can we Frank Voss: Half Angel Chaney: leave now Frank Voss: an hour. Angel Chaney: or Barton Levey: Yeah, you're di dismissed. Adam Draudt: Thanks. Frank Voss: You're fired. Barton Levey: Not yet. Frank Voss: No. Angel Chaney: Mm. Adam Draudt: Alright. Barton Levey: Okay. Frank Voss: Alright let's move on. Barton Levey: Let's see what we got to do. Frank Voss: Yeah. Adam Draudt: See you later. Frank Voss: Yeah Angel Chaney: Okay. Barton Levey: Yeah. Frank Voss: see you later. Angel Chaney: Good luck. Barton Levey: Yeah. Thank you. Frank Voss: Well good luck. Adam Draudt: What the

When the meeting begins Barton Levey lists the agenda and then describes the project, which is to develop a new remote control that is original, trendy, and user-friendly. The group practices using the smart board by choosing an animal to draw and then explaining why they picked it. Barton Levey goes over the product budget and they proceed to have discussion. They each identify their individual tasks during each phase based on their role in the group. They briefly discuss characteristics of a desirable remote, including medium size buttons, small unit, and work within a good zapping range. The team again discusses their individual responsibilities and move on to ponder whether the remote will be multifunctional or only for the TV. They decide to first assume it is only for TV and video, but allowing the possibility to add more features. They close the meeting upon establishing what each person will do.

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Alvin Miller: So welcome. The first kick-off meeting. What we do? First the opening, then the rest. What are we going to do. We m have to make a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy and user-friendly. So we will get back th on that. First we have to make a functional design. After that we have to make a conceptual design, and then after that a detailed design. So we'll discuss that later. First we have a look at. to we have to make a small painting. What have do we have to do. First you can save the documents. We have to do that every time we make something. You can print it. No. And we have to use the pen and the eraser. So Now. We all have to use this one. You have to make your own favourite animal. So I'll make an example. Daniel Mitchell: Yep. Alvin Miller: First don't touch that things. You can use the pen. And then you can make um something. Gregory Flores: Nice. Alvin Miller: Um you can change some things. Um format, line, and change it. And you can change the colour. Gregory Flores: elephant. Alvin Miller: So that's it. So Alvin Miller: So and after it you have to save it. Daniel Mitchell: Okay. Alvin Miller: Now we can make a new one. You have to paint now. Daniel Mitchell: Oh. Alvin Miller: So you're next. Gregory Flores: 'Kay. Daniel Mitchell: Well we will try. Where it going? Vincent Adams: Hmm. That's uh strange. Alvin Miller: What is going on? Gregory Flores: pop-ups. Alvin Miller: What are Daniel Mitchell: Hmm. Alvin Miller: you What? Gregory Flores: What is this, Pictionary. Daniel Mitchell: Uh Alvin Miller: Um Gregory Flores: Uh Alvin Miller: Is Gregory Flores: a Alvin Miller: a It Gregory Flores: bird. Alvin Miller: is a It is a Gregory Flores: Bird. Alvin Miller: A duck. Daniel Mitchell: Mm. So Now save? Gregory Flores: Yeah. Alvin Miller: Yes. Hmm. Daniel Mitchell: Now uh blank? Alvin Miller: Blank, yes. Vincent Adams: Yeah. Daniel Mitchell: Yeah. Alvin Miller: Okay next one. Vincent Adams: Okay. Let's try Gregory Flores: Whoo. Vincent Adams: this. Uh Daniel Mitchell: Yeah, yeah. Vincent Adams: Um. Mm-hmm. Mm. Gregory Flores: Oh not. Oh. Alvin Miller: Oh. Gregory Flores: Okay. Okay. Yeah. No problem. Shit happens. Daniel Mitchell: I'm not getting anything uh on my screen now. Okay. Gregory Flores: A parrot. Daniel Mitchell: Wow. Gregory Flores: Ish. Daniel Mitchell: Oh. Gregory Flores: He did it before. Vincent Adams: Uh Vincent Adams: No, no. Yeah. Okay. Daniel Mitchell: Nice. Gregory Flores: Oh. Alvin Miller: Very good. Vincent Adams: Uh blank. Gregory Flores: Thank you. Alvin Miller: Okay. Very good. So um you can always go back. So That's it. So that was two. Now next. The budget. The b Uh we will sell the t at twenty five Euros. And we have only twenty of twelve and a half Euro to make it. So now we have to think about what we will make. First I wanna hear from you. Uh what are your experiences with remote controls. So Gregory Flores: Uh I will start. Alvin Miller: F Gregory Flores: Uh Alvin Miller: first. Gregory Flores: Big one, they are uh not easy to use. when I dropped it, uh it broke. So that won't be uh our goal, I think. Vincent Adams: No. Gregory Flores: And uh g big buttons, m uh that's easier to use than uh I think. Not all the small buttons, you Alvin Miller: Is Gregory Flores: don't Alvin Miller: this Gregory Flores: know Alvin Miller: positive or negative, that uh big buttons? Gregory Flores: Big buttons, positive. Alvin Miller: Positive. Gregory Flores: All all small buttons like when you have uh like a hundred buttons on your remote control, you won't know what they're working for. Alvin Miller: Okay. What are your experiences? Vincent Adams: Uh well I think the the the goal of a remote control is that it's it it has an influence on the T_V_ set. And that Alvin Miller: Mm. Vincent Adams: it controls the channels and the the volume. And uh I I I think it's positive if corner of the of the remote. So that you know it s it still has batteries on it in it. And that if you push the button the LED uh gives a light, and uh and you see that it's working. And uh yeah. Uh Alvin Miller: So Vincent Adams: Yeah, Alvin Miller: and Vincent Adams: but Alvin Miller: do they always have that? Vincent Adams: No no no. But I my my experience is that it it it's convenient Alvin Miller: It's Vincent Adams: to have Alvin Miller: easy Vincent Adams: that. Alvin Miller: to you. Vincent Adams: Yeah. Alvin Miller: Okay. Vincent Adams: Yeah. Alvin Miller: 'Kay. Daniel Mitchell: Uh at home we have a T_V_, a video uh recorder, a D_V_D_ player, and a satellite receiver. have uh four distinctive remote controls Gregory Flores: Thank Daniel Mitchell: for that. Gregory Flores: you. Daniel Mitchell: That's not really ea easy. Gregory Flores: Help also. Daniel Mitchell: So it would be nice if we have one for all. Gregory Flores: Thank you. Daniel Mitchell: And we also had a remote control for our radio set. But um i it it had a lot of buttons on it, and you didn't know which one was what. And it was uh uh v not easy to use. So we n barely used it. Alvin Miller: Okay so they have too much. So Vincent Adams: Hmm. Alvin Miller: next. For our own remote control we have to think how do we make it. So what ideas do you have for it, for the new remote control? What what does it have to have? Gregory Flores: The weight. Not not too heavy. Alvin Miller: Not too heavy. Gregory Flores: Not Alvin Miller: Yes. Gregory Flores: much buttons. Alvin Miller: Yeah. Gregory Flores: Bust-free. That when you drop it, it won't break. Like uh some kind of rubber on it. Or hard uh hard plastic. Uh buttons not too small. Gregory Flores: Uh something like when you uh lose your uh remote control, sometimes it happen. Alvin Miller: Yes. Gregory Flores: Uh it between the couch and you can't find it. When you push a but a button on the T_V_, then you hear some uh some sort of bleep. Alvin Miller: Like Gregory Flores: And Alvin Miller: a Gregory Flores: then Alvin Miller: phone. Gregory Flores: you uh, hey there there's remote control. Daniel Mitchell: Yeah. Alvin Miller: Okay. Vincent Adams: Yeah. Alvin Miller: So, Gregory Flores: Next. Alvin Miller: that's. Vincent Adams: Yeah well that's that are good ideas. Uh Yeah well the LED on the corner, that that indicates that it's working. If you push a button. Um Yeah. And looking on the budget, not too expensive uh material. So probably plastic or something. Uh Alvin Miller: Okay. Daniel Mitchell: Yeah I think it uh from a marketing point of view, it also has to look nice. Or you won't sell it. Alvin Miller: Yes. Daniel Mitchell: And um yeah uh on our website we can see what products we already have. And it should work with as many uh as possible of them. Alvin Miller: Okay. This is It has to be compatible with other things. Daniel Mitchell: Yes. Alvin Miller: Okay. Gregory Flores: I have one more idea. Just popped up. Alvin Miller: Yes? Gregory Flores: Uh it it won't take a lot of batteries. So you don't won't have to change the batteries uh once a week or uh once every two weeks. Alvin Miller: No battery use. So more ideas? Vincent Adams: Mm no. Alvin Miller: No okay. It's only the first ideas. So uh what are we going to do now is Next meeting is in half an h hour. Uh Okay. Next meeting, half an hour. Um, what you have to do. Well look on your. And Next instructions you'll get in your email. So This is the first meeting. See you later in half an hour. Vincent Adams: Yes. Gregory Flores: Okay. Daniel Mitchell: Okay. Gregory Flores: Thank you.

For the first meeting, the task of designing a remote control was briefly introduced along with the plan for the subsequent meetings. The group then drew animals to practise using the drawing platform. They discussed their likes and dislikes regarding current remote controls, including ease of use, multiple systems and power indicators. They then offered suggestions as to what they would like from their remote. They would like the remote to be durable, for it to include a device to help find it when lost and not use too many batteries.

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John Garcia: Do you need to change anything on it Michael Thompson: Um John Garcia: Because? otherwise I will already open it. Michael Thompson: Mm, don't think so. John Garcia: Okay. Michael Thompson: Unless uh things have suddenly change again. John Garcia: Is it much changes? Michael Thompson: Uh don't know. Maybe uh John Garcia: Uh I didn't Michael Thompson: you've got new information, John Garcia: No no. I do Michael Thompson: like John Garcia: hot have Michael Thompson: uh last time. John Garcia: Only the same information. Michael Thompson: Okay. John Garcia: Hello, Sebastian. John Brister: Hello hello Mister P_M_. John Garcia: I believe uh Miss uh Tentel is with us as well, in the control room. John Brister: Well, that's where the thinking goes on. John Garcia: Oh, it's that Roo again, always late. Bongiorno. Willie Jones: Bongiorno. John Brister: I think you should punish him. You're the P_M_. John Garcia: Hmm. Willie Jones: Punish. John Garcia: I see some interesting okay. John Brister: Possibilities, Willie Jones: You wish. John Brister: yeah? John Garcia: People, welcome back. Willie Jones: Welcome. John Garcia: The third Willie Jones: Uh John Garcia: meeting. Michael Thompson: Oop. John Garcia: I some points I would like to uh some some issues I would like to point out. Um first of all, um if you make minutes yourself as well, uh like Sebastian does, um could you put them on the shared folder? If you do not make minutes, no problem, but it's easy for Michael Thompson to see what Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: you uh wrote down, so I could uh can uh um use that in the in the report. Um the second thing, um I was th uh s thinking to myself, I have this little remote control, and I'm talking to it, but I still need to point to the television, because it works with infrared. That's quite strange. John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: Okay. John Brister: So John Garcia: We'll come to that later, I g I think. Um the agenda for now uh uh are there any pre-discussion questions? Willie Jones: No. John Brister: Not at all. Michael Thompson: No. John Garcia: Okay. Um we wi we will have your individual presentations, uh then the decision on the remote control concept, um and uh the closing. Forty minutes in total for this. So um I think we we can immedis immediately start with the individual presentations, John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: um the progress you've made. Um I think it might be smart to look at uh Ruud's um information first, Michael Thompson: 'Kay. John Garcia: because I understood there are some uh significant changes in the market Michael Thompson: Hmm? John Garcia: situation. Willie Jones: Alright. Michael Thompson: Oh. John Brister: Just press the okay button, it Michael Thompson: Yeah, John Brister: works. Michael Thompson: Okay. John Garcia: Um Michael Thompson: Yeah. John Garcia: yeah. Michael Thompson: Yeah. My method? John Brister: How surprising. Michael Thompson: Well, findings. Uh Ease of use is important, but uh innovation is more important, and a fancy look and feel is uh even more important. watchers have found out that the young target group likes fruit and vegetables in their uh clothes, shoes and furniture, and that they want spongy material. Probably watch too much Sponge Bob. Uh the older group uh still prefers dark colours. Simple shapes uh m material. But we since we are concentrating on uh the John Garcia: Uh Michael Thompson: younger John Garcia: w Michael Thompson: group John Garcia: wait a John Brister: Oh John Garcia: sec John Brister: wait uh wait up. John Garcia: wait a se uh could you go to the previous slide? Um because I'm taking minutes and it Michael Thompson: 'Kay. John Garcia: Um were the important themes enclose. Yeah okay. The feel of to be spongy John Brister: Uh so do you think um when fruit and vegetables are important for clothing and shoes that they are in remote controls also? Michael Thompson: Well, uh one example given was this, so um I assume they just want something colourful. Not uh John Brister: Not Michael Thompson: specifically John Brister: something dull. Michael Thompson: uh an apple as a John Brister: Okay. Michael Thompson: remote control Willie Jones: But they Michael Thompson: or Willie Jones: like Michael Thompson: something. Willie Jones: dark colours, you said in Michael Thompson: No, Willie Jones: the Michael Thompson: uh Willie Jones: p Michael Thompson: the younger group likes uh more colourful Willie Jones: Okay. Michael Thompson: uh objects. Willie Jones: Well then I suggest that the Michael Thompson: But Willie Jones: corporate colours are grey and yellow. I John Brister: But Willie Jones: had John Brister: can you can you go back to that slide? The Michael Thompson: Which one? John Brister: uh Michael Thompson: This? John Brister: just one slide back, no no no. Yes. Okay, and the feel of the material has to be spongy. Michael Thompson: Yes. John Brister: Has it something to do with that uh natural feeling also, do you think? Michael Thompson: Uh well, it might. But personally I wouldn't like a sponge as a remote control. But Maybe soft material or something. But not John Garcia: Okay, so Michael Thompson: a real John Garcia: so, Michael Thompson: sponge. John Garcia: yeah, it might not be t uh it it shouldn't be too hard. It it maybe it rubber or or Michael Thompson: Yeah, exactly. John Garcia: yeah. Okay. Michael Thompson: Yeah, and like uh Willie Jones: Or we could Michael Thompson: the older Willie Jones: make Michael Thompson: group Willie Jones: oh. Michael Thompson: likes familiar materials, but that doesn't mean we should use wood, So John Brister: Okay. Michael Thompson: Well, this this is an example of what they would like. But since we're conten concentrating on uh the younger group, I think we should use soft materials and uh make it colourful or uh like cell phones, exch exchangeable covers. John Garcia: Yeah. Michael Thompson: So we could provide both for the young and the old what they like. John Garcia: Well, that's interesting. John Brister: It's quite interesting. John Garcia: You could make a few v very colourful ones, Willie Jones: Yeah, o o John Garcia: and uh a very traditional John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: co Willie Jones: I'm thinking John Garcia: cover. Willie Jones: about uh the Bananarama telephone uh telephone from uh Siemens. The yellow uh rubber John Garcia: Yeah, yeah. Willie Jones: telephone. It's the it's the rubber uh John Garcia: Yeah, it is, it Willie Jones: cover. John Garcia: is i yeah. Willie Jones: And uh colourful. It John Garcia: Yeah. Willie Jones: looks likes a banana. We have the fruit, we have the colours. John Garcia: Do Willie Jones: We have John Garcia: you know Willie Jones: the simple John Garcia: the phone? Willie Jones: design. John Brister: I don't know the phone, but John Garcia: It's the Siemens John Brister: I can imagine John Garcia: uh John Brister: it. John Garcia: C_ twenty five, Willie Jones: Um John Garcia: I believe it's it's Willie Jones: thirty John Garcia: the Willie Jones: five. John Garcia: one the Post-bank uh gave away, John Brister: Oh, that one, John Garcia: the Willie Jones: And John Brister: yes. John Garcia: very Willie Jones: the b the light John Brister: Now Willie Jones: blue John Brister: I kn uh oh, I know, Willie Jones: and John Brister: I know. Willie Jones: it's also in yellow. John Brister: Yes, I I've seen it. I've seen it. John Garcia: You kn you know, Ruud, as well? About Michael Thompson: I've John Garcia: th Michael Thompson: seen it, but John Garcia: Okay. Okay. Um uh okay. Do Michael Thompson: 'Kay. John Garcia: you have uh thit that was Michael Thompson: Uh that's about it. John Garcia: Okay. Okay, so the the m uh important findings are uh innovation is more important than ease of use for the our target group. Michael Thompson: Yes. John Garcia: And um colouring is important and and Michael Thompson: Uh John Garcia: uh Michael Thompson: soft material. John Garcia: soft materials. Okay. John Brister: So So ease of use is important, but technology is twice as important. And what was even more important? Michael Thompson: Uh the fancy look and feel. John Brister: Okay. So that's the most important thing for Michael Thompson: Yes. John Brister: our customers. Michael Thompson: Apparently. John Garcia: Okay, Roo, Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: could you do your presentation? Willie Jones: Mm-hmm. Well, I don't ha really have much to add, um because most of things we already said in uh the previous uh discussion. Um John Garcia: Okay, well it's good to to sum up uh the things we already thought about. Willie Jones: Uh the previous ideas were voice recognition and uh the round button for uh the p channel programming and uh volume. Well, a few interface I uh I found on the internet are are these. These are both with uh with voice recognition, but they're very advanced and very high-tech and just um, well, a weird um John Garcia: Shape. Willie Jones: shape. So I suggest I couldn't uh I had a small uh mock-up uh sign on the on paper. But it didn't work. My pen didn't load um the information. So I made a really simple f uh a shape on uh in um PowerPoint. But we could make uh a round uh an oval uh um John Brister: Mm-hmm. But it's it's Willie Jones: remote John Brister: kind Willie Jones: control. John Brister: of uh Willie Jones: Uh yellow. John Brister: it's kind of o organic, so that's very good. John Garcia: Yeah. Michael Thompson: Yeah. John Garcia: And what I'm thinking about, maybe um we should make very light but um uh a grip um I mean this is how you hold a remote control. John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: Um it shouldn't be too uh glatt, too John Brister: Slippery. John Garcia: slippery, s because Willie Jones: But John Garcia: um Willie Jones: if you John Brister: You have Willie Jones: have John Brister: to Willie Jones: something John Brister: grab it. Willie Jones: like uh the Siemens phone, John Garcia: Yeah. Willie Jones: it's rubber. So John Garcia: Yeah, exactly. Willie Jones: it's easy in your hand Uh John Garcia: Yeah. Willie Jones: indeed. John Brister: Yes. There are there are also remote controls who have uh a little shape underneath John Garcia: Yeah, John Brister: where John Garcia: ex John Brister: you can put John Garcia: for John Brister: your fingers John Garcia: your fingers, John Brister: in, John Garcia: yeah. John Brister: so you can get Willie Jones: Yeah. John Brister: a really good grip on it. So you you don't have to um attain much pressure to it. It's it's a lot easier. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: So John Garcia: It grips John Brister: m John Garcia: automatically. John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: Yeah, John Brister: But John Garcia: okay. John Brister: I'll I'll go into that deeper in my presentation. John Garcia: Okay, good. Willie Jones: Great. Willie Jones: Oh and um to add on um Ruud's information, in this um interface we can have uh high-tech with the voice recognition and uh, well, the the fancy colours and uh and so on, and still have the ease of use, because we have an easy interface. And all the other remote controls are high-tech in buttons John Garcia: Yeah. Willie Jones: and uh John Garcia: Way Willie Jones: and so John Garcia: too Willie Jones: on. John Garcia: much I think for Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: our goal, yeah. Willie Jones: So if you have the voice recognition, you can you can programme like thirty uh um John Garcia: Okay, Willie Jones: thirty c John Brister: Okay, Willie Jones: uh John Garcia: b but I think John Brister: but Willie Jones: controls John Brister: I'll John Garcia: we'll John Brister: I'll Willie Jones: on John Brister: go Willie Jones: it. John Brister: into that, John Garcia: yeah. John Brister: because there are are some possibilities and some impossibilities. Um I had a talk with uh our manufacturing uh division, and uh we had a talk about all the different components um who are in this design. Uh these are the things we've looked at. And of course I used the web to uh find my information. About the casing, we have three different casing possibilities. We have the uncurved or flat case. Uh that's the most common uh remote con control form uh we're used to is just a it ju it's just a box. I'm sorry I I don't have any pictures of uh of this thing. We have uh a curved one. It's uh curved in two dimensions. You have to imagine it's a bit like a wave form. So it's uh John Garcia: Okay. John Brister: a little more advanced in its in its shape. Uh and we have an even more advanced uh shape, which is curved in three dimension. I c I think you can compare it a little bit with the uh big grey image uh you had in your presentation. Willie Jones: Yeah. John Brister: The the big remote control, Willie Jones: Right. John Brister: something like that. But it's quite uh advanced and it's it's quite daring to to use I think. Um for these casings we have uh different types of finishing. We can use plastic, which is uh very slippery and maybe not so nice, but you can give it any colour, uh which is the same for rubber, but it's not slippery. We can use wood and titanium. Well, um we cannot use the titanium on the double curve cases. And these latex cases, there's there's just the plastic ones uh won't allow the use of solar cells as an energy source source. Which brings Michael Thompson to the different energy sources. Um well, we even seem to have uh hand dyn dynamos for uh powering our uh remote controls. You really have to imagine like winding Willie Jones: Great. John Brister: up your uh John Garcia: Well, John Brister: I John Garcia: it John Brister: d John Garcia: would be very new to the market, but John Brister: It would be very new, but it's a kind of a retro uh style, I John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: think. Uh Well, this is quite interesting. Uh there's there's also a kinetic energy supply. So um when you're watching T_V_ uh or Willie Jones: Like the John Brister: when Willie Jones: watch. John Brister: you're you you have to um make some kind of energy kinetic energy by shaking the remote or throwing it against the wall, whatever you wish. It have it it has to move, that's the the sense of it. And you can store the energy in the in the thing. John Garcia: I think um, if if I can hook on to that, um the kinetic thing John Brister: Mm-hmm. John Garcia: is very funny. John Brister: It's very funny indeed. John Garcia: I mean solar is of course it's nice, but it's, John Brister: Mm-hmm. John Garcia: well, your uh your calculator has a solar panel. John Brister: Indeed. John Garcia: Um hand Willie Jones: But John Garcia: dynamo Willie Jones: if you're watching a movie, how many times uh you take the the remote control and and John Garcia: Well, maybe Willie Jones: if John Garcia: m Willie Jones: uh if you have a watch, you have the kinetic uh idea in a watch also. John Garcia: Yeah, John Brister: Mm-hmm. John Garcia: I know. Willie Jones: You you walk John Brister: Yes. Willie Jones: and John Garcia: Yeah. Willie Jones: uh but John Brister: But Willie Jones: uh you you're John Brister: you Willie Jones: sitting John Brister: know Willie Jones: on a couch. John Brister: you know from your own watch your watch uses uh a minimal con it consumes a minimal amount of energy. the the shaking of your body, which is almost uh every activity makes your uh body shake, uh it charges it. But uh the problem here is that it it supplies a a very little amount of kinetic energy. So I think uh you have a problem when you're watching a movie and uh you haven't moved the remote uh i remote control in a John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: in an amount of time, John Garcia: And John Brister: and you John Garcia: wha John Brister: want t to switch uh the channel or something, well, m it might not work. So that's something you have to keep in mind. John Garcia: Okay. John Brister: So, but maybe maybe there's a possibility com to combine it with m uh traditional batteries, on the batteries and John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: um when there's enough kinet kinetic energy, use the kinetic energy, and otherwise use the batteries. John Garcia: Okay, because I guess the voice recognition feature u consumes quite a f uh a lot of power. John Brister: Uh yes, it does. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: I'll come to that later. John Garcia: Okay. John Brister: And we of course have the traditional uh solar power, which is just uh uh uh uh uh a piece of material on the remote control which transfers light energy into electricity. The user interface controls, um of course we have the push-buttons and uh we also have scroll-wheels. And these scroll-wheels can also be integrated with buttons. So it's just like a mouse. You can scroll 'em, you can also push it. Um uh in the indicators we have the L_C_D_ displays, which means uh you can watch uh in a display w Willie Jones: Mm-hmm. John Brister: which channel you have chosen or something like that of the li amount of volume which is uh currently uh and we also have double scroll-buttons, which are just two of these things. So we don't really have the the kind of button we had in mind in our uh uh in our last meeting, the the thing with the the round Willie Jones: Mm-hmm. John Brister: with the four Willie Jones: Oh, we can just make four push-buttons in a form of a round. John Brister: Yes. That is possible too. Yes. Willie Jones: But I th I don't think uh the scroll-wheels I had some I had some information about it too. John Brister: Mm-hmm. Willie Jones: I don't think there's any possibility for us to use scroll-wheels. John Garcia: Well Willie Jones: I d I can't see uh any uh scenario where you would use a scroll-wheel with a John Brister: Well, Willie Jones: button on it. John Brister: mayb uh well, m Michael Thompson neither. Maybe when you John Garcia: This John Brister: integrate John Garcia: will be the John Brister: some John Garcia: remote, John Brister: functions. Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: right? Um with uh maybe a channel selector. What about integrating a scroll-bar on this side? Willie Jones: Yeah, uh that's John Brister: Uh Willie Jones: a possibility, John Brister: it's Willie Jones: but John Garcia: Because John Brister: do it's John Garcia: this John Brister: done John Garcia: is John Brister: before. John Garcia: how you keep it John Brister: Yes. Willie Jones: But Flores, John Brister: It's quite quite good, yes. Willie Jones: think about a scenario where y where you would use the scroll-button John Garcia: Volume? Willie Jones: for John Brister: Well, it's it well, i what he means is there's an Willie Jones: A volume, John Brister: button Willie Jones: okay. John Brister: integrated in the scroll-wheel. There's no scenario where you use uh the button in the scroll-wheel. You just use the wheel. John Garcia: Well, what about mute? John Brister: About mute. Well, John Garcia: Thi John Brister: yes. John Garcia: i i m I guess uh th this John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: is my volume button. John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: And I can either on this side or this John Brister: Well, John Garcia: side John Brister: okay. John Garcia: um John Brister: Well, that that that's one possibility, okay. John Garcia: And click it to muten the device. John Brister: Well, okay. John Garcia: And and John Brister: It's quite John Garcia: it John Brister: goods. John Garcia: makes it different from the traditional uh devices on this market. So I'm looking for a way to uh make it a little different than the traditional John Brister: Mm-hmm. John Garcia: ones. John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: So maybe um I guess that that's something you two uh Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: need to think about. Uh Ruud, wha what do you thing about uh a scroll-bar? Michael Thompson: Um John Garcia: Uh scroll-wheel. Willie Jones: Wheel. Michael Thompson: Uh well, it's obvious obviously new. So it might attract uh the young customers. John Brister: Hmm. John Garcia: Okay. John Brister: But it's done before, uh there are many other devices um like uh telephones and our uh radio, pocket radios. We use this. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: And Well, it's it's been done years ago and I don't see it anywhere now. So John Garcia: Well, John Brister: maybe John Garcia: all John Brister: it's John Garcia: the Sony John Brister: not no. John Garcia: telephones use it, for example, for volume. but on their side th the the volume button is on the side, because John Brister: Hmm. John Garcia: you gri grab it like this. John Brister: Yes, but it uses two separate buttons. John Garcia: Yeah. I know, John Brister: It John Garcia: it's John Brister: doesn't John Garcia: not really John Brister: use John Garcia: a John Brister: a. John Garcia: scroll-wheel. No. Yeah. John Brister: Well. Uh something for uh John Garcia: For John Brister: Roo John Garcia: you too, John Brister: here. John Garcia: yeah. Willie Jones: Yeah, I believe uh if you have uh what we've earlier said, um the grip uh places in in the remote control. You have your hand on one place on the remote control, so you have to place all the buttons in a range John Brister: Wi within Willie Jones: of your John Brister: reach. Willie Jones: thumb. John Brister: Yes, you have to. Willie Jones: So in that John Brister: Yes. Willie Jones: case uh the volume button on the side uh John Brister: yes. Willie Jones: of the remote control would be perfect. John Brister: Yeah, yeah. John Garcia: Okay. John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: Sebastian. Um John Brister: Okay, um we have to know, if you want to use uh these rubber double-curved c uh case, um you must use these push uh push-buttons. There's no way you can integrate L_C_D_ displays. There's no way you can integrate scroll-wheels, because it's all curved. There's John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: there are no uh flat areas where you can incorporate these things. So that's a limitation. About um the components, uh just the hardware. We basically have uh three types of chips we can use and uh these chips incorporate all the Logica and um um uh hardware that is needed to send uh to send a signal. Uh we have a simple, regular and advanced chip. And there is something like a sample sensor and sample speaker, which is a little cryptic uh to Michael Thompson. But I think that's the the voice recognition thing that we are uh thinking Willie Jones: Yeah John Brister: about. Willie Jones: yeah, you can um I have some information about it. Uh in the voice recognition you say a word you can John Brister: Mm-hmm. Willie Jones: programme words like John Brister: Okay. Willie Jones: uh v uh volume up. John Brister: Okay. So Willie Jones: Of mute, let's John Brister: so Willie Jones: say mute. John Brister: okay. Willie Jones: Um you programme it, you m mute and you g you give um an uh an action to it John Brister: Mm-hmm. Willie Jones: that that's really the mute function John Brister: Yeah. Willie Jones: and uh when you speak in the the remote control, it repeats uh your saying. So that's the sample sensor. John Brister: Okay. Willie Jones: So if you say mute, it says mute again, John Brister: Mm-hmm. Willie Jones: and then it's um well, I believe John Garcia: It Willie Jones: it's John Garcia: performs Willie Jones: uh John Garcia: the action. Willie Jones: Yeah, and John Garcia: Yeah. Willie Jones: then uh he he John Brister: Okay. Willie Jones: repeats its action what which he believes it is. So you John Garcia: Yeah. Willie Jones: say mute, he repeats mute and you makes a computer sound mute, and then goes to the mute John Brister: Okay. Willie Jones: function. John Brister: Okay, so that's basically the the voice recognition item we were searching for. Okay. This sample sensor uh requires an regular chip, I thought. Um no op I'm not very sure. No, it's not in here. If we want to use the L_C_D_ display, we really need the advanced version, which is a bit l little bit more costly. If we want to use the scroll-wheels we need the regular version. And if we don't want to use uh any of these uh more advanced functions we can keep with the simple uh chip, which is a bit cheaper. John Garcia: Okay. Uh well John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: uh d did we already decide on the display? To John Brister: Um no, but I think that's something for uh Roo here Willie Jones: Yeah. John Brister: to Willie Jones: Well, John Brister: think about. Willie Jones: I don't have um I haven't looked for uh for information about it, but I don't think information uh y I don't think you need it on a display. John Garcia: No. Willie Jones: Especially John Brister: I I don't Willie Jones: when John Brister: think Willie Jones: when John Brister: either. Willie Jones: we have to look at a cost, I don't think uh John Brister: No. I Willie Jones: 'cause John Brister: don't think Willie Jones: uh John Brister: you need it. Willie Jones: uh all any T_V_ can uh can uh view John Garcia: On Willie Jones: a John Garcia: screen Willie Jones: digit John Garcia: display. Willie Jones: on uh on screen, yeah. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: Okay th John Brister: Okay, well my conclusion, um unfortunately the market has decided the a little uh other than I thought. I thought um the market would like uh a sort m sort of titanium casing, but they seem to like natural uh stuff. So maybe we should think about uh wood finish. Um I've chosen the more battery with solar cell uh solution for the energy. It's more reliable, it's cheaper. John Garcia: Okay. John Brister: So I John Garcia: Good. John Brister: don't think we should use the dynamo John Garcia: Kineti John Brister: thing. John Garcia: okay. John Brister: The Michael Thompson: Hmm. John Brister: kinetic thing it it's it's a possibility. It's it's more advanced, but I'm I think you should combine it with batteries. John Garcia: Okay, it's John Brister: Otherwise John Garcia: maybe John Brister: it will John Garcia: a bit John Brister: not John Garcia: too too John Brister: too John Garcia: flashy, John Brister: advanced, John Garcia: too John Brister: uh well. John Garcia: yeah. John Brister: It's in in in some way it can give us an advance, because you will save on your batteries. But John Garcia: Yeah, but that that's the same with the solar cell. John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: That's no John Brister: And John Garcia: different. John Brister: I think it's more robust. It's John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: more uh John Garcia: Okay. Willie Jones: But what John Brister: Uh Willie Jones: about John Brister: it's more Willie Jones: um John Brister: functional. Willie Jones: the markets uh wants colourfuls uh designs? So if you use titanium John Garcia: No no, but the uh um John Brister: The titanium John Garcia: that's what Sebastian John Brister: thing uh John Garcia: said. He said uh John Brister: we John Garcia: this John Brister: have to John Garcia: is John Brister: skip John Garcia: what John Brister: it. John Garcia: uh this is my personal preference. Willie Jones: Okay. John Garcia: But but yet, I understood that the market is different. Willie Jones: Oh, sorry. Yeah. John Garcia: So John Brister: So John Garcia: um John Brister: I think we should skip the titanium uh stuff, Willie Jones: Yeah. John Brister: and we should uh use wood or something like that. Michael Thompson: And Willie Jones: And I Michael Thompson: yeah, Willie Jones: would John Garcia: No, Willie Jones: think Michael Thompson: the John Garcia: r rubber with colours. Michael Thompson: yeah, the older people liked wood. John Brister: Oh okay, sorry. So it Michael Thompson: No John Brister: it Michael Thompson: the John Brister: needs to be rubber. John Garcia: Colourful Michael Thompson: Yeah, the younger John Brister: Okay. Michael Thompson: people John Garcia: and Michael Thompson: liked soft material. John Brister: Okay, John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: spongy materials. Michael Thompson: Yeah. John Brister: Okay, um well um these scroll-wheels, I think uh they they can be they can be handy. So Willie Jones: And they can be implemented with a regular chip? John Brister: Yes, they can. But they really need the regular chip, you cannot use Willie Jones: Okay, John Brister: the sa Willie Jones: but we John Brister: simple Willie Jones: also uh we already need the regular chip for the sample uh John Brister: Well, I'm not Willie Jones: sensor John Brister: very sure. Willie Jones: speaker John Brister: Maybe that's an Willie Jones: oh, John Brister: uh John Garcia: But but John Brister: a different John Garcia: do Willie Jones: evalu John Garcia: we want the curved uh uh design, or John Brister: I think so, if you if you stick with the the simple uh straight-forward uh not curve design, John Garcia: I it's John Brister: i uh John Garcia: too John Brister: it's too John Garcia: dull. John Brister: dull. Michael Thompson: Yeah. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: I don't think c our customers will like it. And um if you uh take the double-curved, uh then you cannot um you can only use the rubber buttons John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: and you cannot use the scroll-wheels. So John Garcia: Okay. John Brister: I John Garcia: Okay. John Brister: think this is the best of two worlds. John Garcia: Okay, what about um the issue I um addressed at the beginning of the meeting? Um the voice function w with the infrared uh issue. John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: Because it it's of John Brister: It's John Garcia: cour John Brister: it's uh I uh I can imagine it's very dull to talk to a device w if you have to point to another device. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: It's very unlogical. Willie Jones: infrared uh remote controls don't have to be pointed at all. John Brister: Well the John Garcia: Well John Brister: there has to be some pointing at. But John Garcia: It depends Willie Jones: Well, John Garcia: also Willie Jones: if you John Garcia: on Willie Jones: if John Garcia: your Willie Jones: you John Garcia: on Willie Jones: take your John Garcia: your Willie Jones: hand before it, okay, it won't work, but you can point it just John Garcia: Well, it depends Willie Jones: to the other John Garcia: on Willie Jones: wall. John Garcia: your walls actually. If you Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: have uh have um smooth walls, it it it probably you're probably right. But if you have carpets on the wall, John Brister: All John Garcia: which John Brister: lights get John Garcia: our John Brister: absorbed, John Garcia: natural John Brister: yeah. John Garcia: loving friends probably do have, then um yeah, th th it might be a bit more of a issue. John Brister: Yes, because John Garcia: So John Brister: the walls they they reflect the infrared light. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: So it has an it's easier. Um I suggest we use the the sensor sample. Uh the sample sensor and sample speaker. Um Willie Jones: And the regular John Brister: with a Willie Jones: chip. John Brister: with a regular chip. I think uh it gives us the advantage Willie Jones: And and John Brister: of Willie Jones: the scroll uh scroll-wheels. John Brister: Yes, Willie Jones: Yeah. John Brister: yes. John Garcia: I John Brister: And John Garcia: like the John Brister: uh John Garcia: scroll John Brister: skip John Garcia: wheels uh idea. John Brister: and skip the L_C_D_ part. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: I don't think it it's any uh value added Willie Jones: No. John Brister: thing. So Willie Jones: Think so too. John Garcia: Well, it looks John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: uh yeah, well um according to Ruud, the the the market likes um John Brister: Technology. John Garcia: new flashy technology, and John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: I mean L_C_D_ John Brister: It's John Garcia: is John Brister: not very flashy and John Garcia: well, John Brister: new. John Garcia: ok I know, but it's m it's less um s Michael Thompson: Standard? John Garcia: standard than than Well, we are not very w we do not know uh much about the the f the financial part. That's the problem. John Brister: Mm-hmm. John Garcia: Because if we do have enough um space in in our finance, John Brister: Mm-hmm. John Garcia: I would say do integrate it, because it it adds a little ext extra John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: high-tech feeling to it. Willie Jones: But we already have the scroll-wheels, the sp uh the speaker uh the speak recognition, John Garcia: Mm yeah. Willie Jones: the rubber, John Brister: Uh I think our customers Willie Jones: the fancy John Brister: will go Willie Jones: colours. John Brister: insane. John Garcia: Okay, okay. John Brister: It's it's too much. John Garcia: Yeah. Okay, I I agree. I think i Ruud, do you have any um anything you would like to um add or or maybe thoughts or Michael Thompson: Nah, um n no, I don't think so. M John Garcia: No? Sebast uh nee, Roo? Roo, do you Willie Jones: Um John Garcia: have any other Willie Jones: no. Nothing more. John Garcia: Nothing more. Um John Brister: Okay. Uh the n the next John Garcia: Sebas John Brister: phase will be um the um not the what is the next phase f Flores? John Garcia: Well, we we need to describe uh decisions now. John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: So um John Brister: So i John Garcia: on the energy, John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: well, we decided. Chip. John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: The case uh rubber with uh c one John Brister: Okay, John Garcia: one John Brister: okay. John Garcia: uh one curve. User interface um Willie Jones: Uh but uh can't scroll-wheels uh work with one uh one-curved case? John Brister: Yes, Willie Jones: Yeah, John Brister: they can Willie Jones: okay. John Brister: work. Willie Jones: Sorry, John Brister: They Willie Jones: yeah. John Brister: cannot work with double-curved. Willie Jones: Oh, sorry. John Brister: That's that's Willie Jones: Yeah. John Brister: problem. I'll check it for you. John Garcia: Um then the corporate identity should be uh in the product. I guess that is something for Roo and Sebastian. Uh you talked about it before, the colours, grey and yellow. Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: Keep it in mind. And um the buttons, well we talked about it now. The next phase, um Sebastian, um John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: is um the design of the look and feel. John Brister: Mm-hmm. John Garcia: The user interface design. And for you, the product evaluation. Um I'm sure your personal coach will give you more information on that. Um and uh the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ need to work together on the prototype drawing on the SMARTboard. John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: And I'm going uh to plan my holidays. John Brister: Okay. So you will Willie Jones: The project John Brister: be on the Bahamas. Willie Jones: drawing is John Brister: Uh Willie Jones: for the next John Garcia: Yeah, it's it's uh when we come back in Willie Jones: Yeah, John Garcia: thirty minutes, Willie Jones: right. John Garcia: uh you will have a uh prototype ready. John Brister: Okay. So can you uh give us a summary of all uh decisions we've made? John Garcia: Yeah? I can. Um maybe one of you could write it down. John Brister: I'll do. John Garcia: Great. Um Uh you you need to help Michael Thompson. Um John Brister: Okay. W start with the casing. John Garcia: The casing is curved, Willie Jones: Single-curved. John Brister: Okay, John Garcia: single-curved. John Brister: single-curved case. Okay. What about the energy source? John Garcia: Traditional batteries uh and solar. Willie Jones: But can there be uh wor can they work together? Or do we have to choose between them? 'Cause if we John Garcia: No, Willie Jones: have to John Garcia: they Willie Jones: choose John Garcia: can be complementary. John Brister: I John Garcia: Uh Willie Jones: yeah? John Brister: I John Garcia: al John Brister: think they can. John Garcia: al John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: I uh Willie Jones: Okay. John Brister: Well, uh Willie Jones: What John Garcia: Every Willie Jones: if not? John Garcia: device John Brister: It it should be. There should be really no problem. They Willie Jones: Okay. John Brister: can be supplementary. That's no problem. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: So John Garcia: Okay, um John Brister: So John Garcia: th John Brister: uh uh just uh the energy source is um John Garcia: Battery John Brister: the batteries and John Garcia: and John Brister: the John Garcia: solar, John Brister: solar. Okay. John Garcia: yeah. John Brister: What about uh the finishing of the case? We have decided we wanted to use the rubber? John Garcia: Yeah, Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: with colourful rubber. Uh if it's possible with uh different um covers, but I'm not sure if our suppliers can uh can help us with uh with such uh uh a wish. John Brister: Okay, and I think we should use the company colours. Something like black and red. uh black and yellow. John Garcia: Uh grey and yellow Willie Jones: Grey and John Garcia: or Willie Jones: yellow. John Garcia: black and John Brister: Grey John Garcia: yellow. John Brister: yellow, John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: okay. Willie Jones: Yellow case and grey buttons, I think. John Garcia: Yeah, although Michael Thompson: Hmm. John Garcia: I don't think that's very colourful. Except for the yellow of course, but um I could think of a more uh attractive uh c uh set John Brister: Oh, John Garcia: of colours. John Brister: I think it's uh it's not very dull. It's quite modern actually. Don't you think? John Garcia: Well, I was Willie Jones: I believe John Garcia: more thinking Willie Jones: the John Garcia: about the fruit colours that the Ruud showed us before. Willie Jones: But you have already um you must have a red uh on and off button. And um John Garcia: Well, it it doesn't Willie Jones: Well John Garcia: have to be red. Willie Jones: well John Garcia: Uh I mean th uh I think these colours are really what our young people are looking for. Um so maybe it shouldn't even be two colours, it should be a full John Brister: Hmm. John Garcia: colour cover with such an image or or I mean John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: thinking in two colours is is too black and white for our m uh c uh market group, I guess. Michael Thompson: Or black and yellow. John Garcia: Black and yellow, yeah. John Brister: Okay, but uh I'm afraid it's not possible to print a picture on uh the device. Because uh I agree it would be nice to have have something like that on the device itself. But Willie Jones: Well, there is. Just a week ago, a keyboard manufacturer John Brister: Oh, I've Willie Jones: would John Brister: read. Willie Jones: print, Michael Thompson: Yeah. John Brister: Yes. Willie Jones: with and uh John Brister: Yes, but our manufacturing department is not so advanced in its uh techniques. They're actually very slow Willie Jones: No. John Brister: in its techniques. John Garcia: Okay, John Brister: So John Garcia: so we have to deal with wh what's possible here. John Brister: So I'm afraid it's not possible. John Garcia: Yeah. Okay. Um more f more more decisions we made. Um Um Willie Jones: A scroll-wheel. John Garcia: The scroll-heel. Yes, the voice recognition we Willie Jones: Voice John Garcia: already Willie Jones: recognition, John Garcia: decided. Willie Jones: of course. John Brister: Okay, so scroll-wheel. But there will be some additional buttons, I guess. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: And th the they should be spongy also, because they're they're rubber too. John Garcia: Uh I'm going to leave that up to you two. Willie Jones: What what did you say? John Brister: Well uh you can use well, when you use the buttons, they'll they'll be made of rubber too. So Willie Jones: Yeah. John Brister: it has th the spongy uh feel also. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: So I I think that's okay. Willie Jones: Yeah, or you could use plastic buttons. In the rubber. John Garcia: I think rubber is nice. Because it uh i I mean what do you touch the button, and what do they want spongy uh uh devices, Willie Jones: Yeah, b John Garcia: or or i Willie Jones: But then you just have the the fact that um the drawings on the buttons will disappear eventually. What I said in the in the first uh discussion, uh the digit six on the button, it will disappear when it's from rubber. John Garcia: Uh is that uh does our our Willie Jones: It John Garcia: supplier Willie Jones: is not uh John Garcia: say Willie Jones: something John Garcia: so? Willie Jones: uh it's no information I read about it or so, but Michael Thompson: Uh Willie Jones: it's Michael Thompson: didn't Willie Jones: just from Michael Thompson: did we inc uh include the digi digits or uh leave them Willie Jones: No, Michael Thompson: to the Willie Jones: but Michael Thompson: speech Willie Jones: but Michael Thompson: recognition? Willie Jones: uh it Michael Thompson: 'Cause things like uh volume could be uh placed next to the button. John Garcia: Yeah. You could place a um Michael Thompson: There John Garcia: uh Michael Thompson: the John Garcia: this Michael Thompson: icons. John Garcia: this would be the button. The scroll-wheel, I mean. Willie Jones: Yeah, John Garcia: And Willie Jones: b John Garcia: you could Willie Jones: yeah. John Garcia: place the indica John Brister: Yes. John Garcia: th th the signals the Michael Thompson: So you don't John Brister: That's okay. Willie Jones: Yeah, Michael Thompson: touch Willie Jones: that's possible, Michael Thompson: the icons that Willie Jones: but Michael Thompson: much. Willie Jones: then you have still the images on the rubber of the case. So still then, if you feel uh li uh if you feel your remote control, you just rub on the cover, so you rub on the painting. John Garcia: No no, there's no painting, only uh Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: yellow or But it's into Willie Jones: Yeah, but John Garcia: the Willie Jones: but John Garcia: rubber. Willie Jones: the the plus or the minus. John Brister: Yes, the Willie Jones: You John Brister: signs. Willie Jones: have to draw John Garcia: Yeah, but Willie Jones: the John Garcia: this is on the pla yeah, Willie Jones: Yeah, John Garcia: I Willie Jones: it's John Garcia: know. Willie Jones: on the cover. John Garcia: Um Willie Jones: So if you uh John Garcia: I think uh I know which you understand af uh I know Willie Jones: You John Garcia: what Willie Jones: just John Garcia: you mean. Willie Jones: move the problem. John Garcia: What about um making this rubber and making this plastic? John Brister: Uh I see what you mean. Well, maybe that's possible, because um uh our manufacturing division also offers plastic finishing. So maybe they can combine these two. John Garcia: Yeah. Well actually, we should have it the other way around, I guess. A plastic cover with rubber finishing. I mean, this is this is the finishing. This is um what's on the edge. What you feel. John Brister: Yeah. John Garcia: But the front, on which the the buttons are doesn't John Brister: Mm-hmm. John Garcia: have to be rubber. I John Brister: Well, John Garcia: mean John Brister: I'm I'm not so sure, I think Willie Jones: Y John Brister: it Willie Jones: uh can John Brister: c should Willie Jones: you separate John Brister: be Willie Jones: these uh these John Brister: Well, I'm not sure, I have to ask with manufacturing, but I'm I'm not sure that's what you want, because our customers specifically ask for the spongy feel, and that's what you get with rubber. So if you want the spongy feel, you need uh to make these buttons all all of rubber. John Garcia: I know, but do you touch this or do you touch this? I John Brister: I John Garcia: mean, John Brister: think John Garcia: I John Brister: both. John Garcia: I never touch between the buttons. Willie Jones: I do. John Brister: I do. Willie Jones: Or the s uh the sideways. John Brister: I think Willie Jones: Or the John Garcia: Yeah, the side, Willie Jones: the John Garcia: exactly, Willie Jones: back. Or John Garcia: the Willie Jones: the John Garcia: sideways. Willie Jones: back. John Garcia: The side, but Willie Jones: I John Garcia: do you Willie Jones: think John Garcia: touch between the the these buttons? Willie Jones: Yes, especially when there are l a few buttons on it, you have uh a lot of space to touch. So you just have it in your hand completely or or John Garcia: Okay. Willie Jones: i John Garcia: Well, Willie Jones: you John Garcia: we Willie Jones: play John Garcia: do Willie Jones: with John Garcia: not Willie Jones: it. John Garcia: have very much time uh left. Um I guess you two have to figure that out. Willie Jones: Yeah. John Garcia: I'm going to leave the decision to you, um because you have to make its prototype, and um yeah y you have the most knowledge about the suppliers, the possibilities and uh Willie Jones: Yeah. John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: so I'm going to leave it the decision with you. Um Sebastian, did you write enough decisions down? John Brister: Um not quite. Um what about uh the chips? We use the regular chip? Willie Jones: Regular. John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: And Willie Jones: Use with. John Brister: Well no, I think that's about it. Yes. John Garcia: Okay. With those regular chips we can still uh control advanced functions. The chip is is not really John Brister: The only difference between the advanced and the regular version is that the advanced uh version of the chip supports L_C_D_. John Garcia: Okay, John Brister: That's John Garcia: well. John Brister: all. And we've decided not to use L_C_D_. John Garcia: Yeah. John Brister: So John Garcia: Okay. Um okay, then I think we are uh quite finished. Um I'll see you guys in thirty minutes and um Willie Jones: For the finishing touch. John Garcia: Yeah? Yeah, John Brister: Okay. John Garcia: um if you write wrote anything down, uh could you put it on the shared folder? John Brister: Okay. Willie Jones: Uh yeah. John Garcia: Yeah. Willie Jones: But um Sebastian has everything. John Garcia: I know, but well John Brister: I'll put it online. John Garcia: Great. John Garcia: Right.

For the conceptual design, Michael Thompson talked about the public's preference for looks over technological innovation; however, they both seem to be more important than ease of use. The current fashion among younger people favours bright colours and fruit and vegetable themes and spongy materials: pertinent exchangeable fronts can express such trends on the remote, and could also provide themes for other target groups. They could also add some rubber to provide easy grip of the device. Cases can be flat, single- or double-curved. They can be made of plastic, rubber, wood or titanium. Hand or kinetic dynamos, batteries, and solar cells can be used as energy sources. Possible interfaces are push buttons, scroll wheels, and LCDs. A way to make this device different would be to use a scroll-wheel on the side with integrated button for volume control and mute. Speech recognition can be implemented by adding a sample sensor and speaker on the remote. The final decisions also included combined battery with solar cells. The team will design a single-curved device with a scroll wheel and speech recognition, in black and yellow, the company colours.

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Amy Santos: Is that alright now? Okay. Sorry? Okay, everybody all set to start the meeting? Okay, we've got half an hour for this one Karen Attaway: Could you plug Amy Santos: um Karen Attaway: Karen Attaway in? Amy Santos: to uh discuss the um functional design. Karen Attaway: Okay. Thanks. Amy Santos: All ready to go? Okay. Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: Um so hopefully you've all been working away, and I've put the minutes of the last meeting in the project folder. Um so I guess just to to recap on uh what we did last time. Um kind of uh got to each other a little bit and uh got familiar with all the equipment and started to discuss um a bit about the project, you know, cost-wise how much how much money we had to s Amy Santos: Um just want to tell you that you have three new requirements, um which is the The first one is that um uh the company's decided that teletext is outdated uh because of how popular the internet is. Nobody uses teletext very much anymore, Karen Attaway: 'Kay. Amy Santos: so we don't really need to consider that in the functionality of the of the remote control. Um they've also suggested that we um we only use the remote control to control the television, not the V_C_R_, D_V_D_ or anything else. I think the worry is that if the project becomes too complex then it'll affect um how long it takes us to get it into into production, the time to market. Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: So um, we're just gonna keep it simple and it'll just control the T_V_. And the other thing was that the company want the corporate colour and slogan to be implemented in the new design. Um I'm not entirely sure what the corporate colour is. It might be yellow, because there seems to be a lot of yellow everywhere. Karen Attaway: And the slogan, like the actual written slogan, or just to embody the idea of the slogan? Amy Santos: Well that's the thing, I'm I'm not sure um uh th because on the the company website, uh what does it say Karen Attaway: 'Bout Amy Santos: Uh something Karen Attaway: putting the fashion in electronics. Amy Santos: Yeah, Maria Hughes: Mm yeah. Amy Santos: I mean do they Is that something they want actually written on it, 'cause it's quite long. Um or yeah, just the idea, but I'm not sure. So that's something we can discuss as well. So those are the three things, just not to worry about teletext, uh only control the T_V_, and um and uh incorporate the uh colour and slogan of the company. Um so is everybody okay with any of that, or do you want Karen Attaway to recap at all? Maria Hughes: Nope, we're all set. Amy Santos: Right um, time for presentations then. Who would like to go first? Mary Baker: I'll go first. Karen Attaway: Sure. Amy Santos: Okay, cool. Mary Baker: Alright um, I st steal this from the back of your laptop? Amy Santos: Oh Mary Baker: Uh Amy Santos: yeah, of course, yeah. G go on ahead. Mary Baker: so this is the technical functions design. Um Right to do the um the design I have I've had a look online, I've had a look at the homepage, which has given us um some insp inspiration from previous products. Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Mary Baker: Um I've had a look at the previous products to see what they offer about the design at the end of the meeting. Um unfortunately we're not allowed to talk outside the meeting room, so Karen Attaway: Right. Amy Santos: Okay. Mary Baker: Um, having a look at the existing products, I found out that um it tends to come in sort of two extremes, there's either um a very complicated one that's got lots of buttons, lots of colours, very confusing, you don't know what you're doing. Um in that case the the labelling tends to be very bad. Um there's an example I'll show you at the end, um sh show you now. Uh Amy Santos: Alright. Mary Baker: here um the button there and there. This one's prog. Sorry. That one's perg and that one's prog, and it doesn't really tell you what it does. Mary Baker: Um, not sure if you had a a look at the other um control in that example. Um it's a very simple one. It's got only the basic functions mm but um it's the same size as the the Amy Santos: Oop. Mary Baker: hard to use one. Uh it looked a bit clunky. They're very big and not very much use for buttons. Um, and it's just very hard to access the advanced functions. There's there's nothing for instance for a slow motion button. Um, my own preferences, I prefer the the clunky one. Um it's very easy to use. Um but unfortunately it does lack the advanced functions which I I quite like having on the controls. Um so I believe the the advanced functions should maybe be hidden in a drawer, or something like tha from the bottom of it. So, now I'd like to ask for your preferences. Um not sure of how long we've got, uh Amy Santos: Um. Well we can chat away for uh for five minutes or so I think at Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: at most. Just a couple of minutes anyway. Karen Attaway: M yeah, like a lot of a lot of what I've um read and prepared for this meeting fits in really closely with what with what Craig's just gone over. So in part I could I could give you some of my personal preferences but I could also th add some to this which is just about sort of um sort of market research. Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Karen Attaway: But anyway, um Amy Santos: Shall we sh well Karen Attaway: we might Amy Santos: we'll Karen Attaway: come Amy Santos: stick Karen Attaway: to that later. Maria Hughes: Which Amy Santos: to kind Maria Hughes: which Amy Santos: of Maria Hughes: is Amy Santos: your Maria Hughes: the clunky Amy Santos: area Maria Hughes: one, Amy Santos: for now. Maria Hughes: the one on left Mary Baker: Um, Maria Hughes: or Mary Baker: the Maria Hughes: on Mary Baker: clunky Maria Hughes: the Mary Baker: one Maria Hughes: right?.. Mary Baker: is the one on the right. Maria Hughes: Okay. Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: Um clunky in what sense, like um h heavier? Larger? Mary Baker: Um I think it's supposed to be the same size, but um it's got much fewer buttons. It's, you know, Karen Attaway: I see, so Mary Baker: it's Karen Attaway: it's more Mary Baker: very Karen Attaway: just Mary Baker: spread out Amy Santos: Looks Mary Baker: and Karen Attaway: basic. Amy Santos: kind Mary Baker: kind Amy Santos: of Mary Baker: of Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: Right, okay. Mary Baker: you know, I get the idea it'd be sort of about this size. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Mary Baker: got very few buttons on Karen Attaway: Yeah. Mary Baker: it and Karen Attaway: Sure. Amy Santos: Well I think it's a valid point. I mean like the one on the left looks quite um quite complicated, and that P_R_T_ p P_R_O_T_ thing is incredibly confusing. Um so I see I see why yo you know you might prefer the simpler design, but yeah you don't want to lose out on, you know, what it does, Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: so maybe you know you know you get a lot of remote controls where you kind of flip the thing open, I think that's a Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: good idea. I Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: think it's a good idea. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Mary Baker: Um, do we have any functions that um we'd want on it? I mean so far I've got um on and off, Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Mary Baker: um switch the channel up and down, and put the volume up and down. Amy Santos: Uh-huh. Mary Baker: Um they're just the the very basics you could use for a T_V_. Amy Santos: Uh-huh, and then actual numbers for channels as well, yeah. Mary Baker: Okay. Um, you say that's a h a required one or a requested one? Karen Attaway: Which Mary Baker: Would you Karen Attaway: was that? Mary Baker: like um the channels like the the numbers Karen Attaway: Up Mary Baker: on Karen Attaway: the numbers, Mary Baker: thing, Karen Attaway: or the up down? Amy Santos: God, Mary Baker: um Amy Santos: I wou I would say that's required, I mean there's no way anybody's gonna buy a remote control these days when if you can't actually individually Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: select channels, I mean would anybody disagree Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: with that? Um, what else, uh So don't need to worry about teletext, don't need to worry about V_C_R_, uh any kind of Karen Attaway: We Amy Santos: like Karen Attaway: don't? Amy Santos: display Karen Attaway: No? Amy Santos: controls at all do you think we need to worry about, you know like Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: brightness and contrast? Karen Attaway: Well I think I think es essentially what we're doing right now is we're categorising. We're saying well we want this to be a product that offers all the Amy Santos: Mm. Karen Attaway: sort of more tricky features but we want them to be in another area? Is that right? Is that what we're Amy Santos: Yeah. Mary Baker: Um, Karen Attaway: we're doing? We're kind Mary Baker: yeah. Karen Attaway: of like sorting them an Or Mary Baker: Um Karen Attaway: are we actually eliminating things we just don't want the product to have? Amy Santos: I think are you are you maybe kind of thinking what we absolutely have to have and what would Mary Baker: Uh, Amy Santos: be nice? Mary Baker: to start with um sort of a bit both, um we need to find out exactly what we have to have Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Mary Baker: um and after that we can add things if they're possible. Amy Santos: Okay, right. Well, do you wanna maybe just, at this point decide on what we absolutely must have as Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: a p as a function of this. Karen Attaway: Yep. Amy Santos: Um, so so far, just to recap you've got Mary Baker: There's um Amy Santos: volume Mary Baker: on and off, Amy Santos: and channel Mary Baker: um Amy Santos: control and Mary Baker: volume and channel, and skip to certain channels with the numbers. Amy Santos: Right okay. Um Karen Attaway: Well, one one way I would look at this um would be that we a approach the different controls in terms of um like control types, so that for the user it's very clear what they want to do where they Amy Santos: Mm-hmm Karen Attaway: go. Amy Santos: yeah. Karen Attaway: Uh and also think maybe a little bit about sorta w w what would just wanna be acc easily accessible. For example Amy Santos: Oka Karen Attaway: if we had audio controls, those could be something people set up very rarely. Maybe they're un they're they're they're in a little area Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Karen Attaway: but covered up um, things like channel and volume um are used all the time, so we just have them right out on top, um very just very sort of self-explanatory. Um so maybe we need to think about having three or more groupings of controls, you know like one which are just the the habitual ones that should be right within your natural grip. And others that are uh also available and then others that are concealed. Something Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: like that. Amy Santos: Uh well, just to to wrap up quickly on this this little section Have I just lost Oh no. Um, uh do you think maybe that's the only kind of uh essential requirements, and then maybe just things that would be nice if it could do would be things like audio set up and display set up and things like that, maybe like a mute button, that sort of thing. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: Any of you anything to add to that at all? Maria Hughes: No. Amy Santos: No. Maria Hughes: I'll add it later, I guess the Amy Santos: Okay, Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: presentation. Amy Santos: right. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: Um okay, if we can move on to next presentation then please. Karen Attaway: Sure. Amy Santos: Um Mary Baker: Do Amy Santos: Do Mary Baker: you Amy Santos: you wanna Mary Baker: want to Karen Attaway: Can Mary Baker: switch places? Karen Attaway: this can this pl reach? Can this plug Maria Hughes: No. Karen Attaway: come across? Amy Santos: Probably Maria Hughes: No. Amy Santos: not, actually. Karen Attaway: No. So why don't I just pick up and move Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: then. Here, I'll just Why don't I just Karen Attaway: Mm Mary Baker: Just just switch them. Karen Attaway: er, can you go up behind Karen Attaway? Kinda This is so This Amy Santos: bit complicated. It'd Karen Attaway: I'm all in Amy Santos: be Karen Attaway: a Amy Santos: nice Karen Attaway: knot Amy Santos: if everything Karen Attaway: now. Amy Santos: was wireless, wouldn't it? Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: Right. Karen Attaway: Um. So I can I can say already, I dunno whether this is for good or for bad but there'll be a lot of kind of uh redundancy in the in the the issues and the the uh Amy Santos: Oh, like Karen Attaway: the things. Amy Santos: overlap between Karen Attaway: Yeah, Amy Santos: what you said? Karen Attaway: yeah. Which Amy Santos: that Karen Attaway: is ma not Amy Santos: that'll happen. Karen Attaway: necessarily a bad thing, but may what I've already started doing is cr I created a slide in in my presentation here so um so that we kind of think well what's the cumulative effect of what we've taken from your ideas and and mine, because certainly I I have a hard time separating separating things completely. Obviously Amy Santos: Mm hard to know what Karen Attaway: obviously Amy Santos: where your Karen Attaway: what Amy Santos: role Karen Attaway: you've just Amy Santos: ends, Karen Attaway: told Amy Santos: yeah. Karen Attaway: Karen Attaway what you've just told Karen Attaway impacts a lot on what um like market research mm that that I've been So Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: how do I how do I get Maria Hughes: Um Karen Attaway: this Maria Hughes: function Karen Attaway: up? Maria Hughes: F_ eight. Amy Santos: Uh pr yeah, press Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: function and F_ eight, yeah. Karen Attaway: Okay. Alright. So F_ eight? Maria Hughes: Function, the blue button. Next to the control on the left. Karen Attaway: Oh, and F_ Maria Hughes: Yeah. Amy Santos: Mm. Karen Attaway: eight. Maria Hughes: You Karen Attaway: Okay. Maria Hughes: have to push it together. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: Yep. Karen Attaway: Okay, I think that that's doing it now. Maria Hughes: Nope. Try that again. Karen Attaway: Uh, again? Mary Baker: Think maybe the Maria Hughes: Wait. Mary Baker: the wire in the back might be loose. Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: Yeah, you wanna Karen Attaway: Um, Amy Santos: Oh oh here Maria Hughes: Yep, Amy Santos: we Karen Attaway: okay Maria Hughes: there Amy Santos: go. Maria Hughes: we Karen Attaway: great. Maria Hughes: go. Amy Santos: There you go. Karen Attaway: Okay. Just um Before I bring this up what I'll just say is um what I've what I've done is tried to collect some information so that I can then relay this to to you guys so that it's now becomes a collective thing. And then kind of lead us in the direction of deciding, 'kay what what are our options, what should we decide and do you know what I mean, so. Maria Hughes: Increase Amy Santos: Um Maria Hughes: that 'cause see the Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: That's much better. Amy Santos: Right. Can you um Maria Hughes: There Amy Santos: Right, Maria Hughes: you go. Amy Santos: okay. Karen Attaway: Okay. Alright. That would be Okay. So um does that make sense? So what I basically got is I just looked into some information and sort of th tried to think about how how we could review it and how we could and what kind of decisions we could take away from it and then maybe by the end of just looking at some of these things we can think about what are our priorities. 'Cause certainly there's lots of different information to go through. So um I'm thinking here about uh primarily about customer needs, that we start with the customer, and w you know, what they want and what are issues with with um existing products. Uh to think about trends and also about try and connect that as you see with the company vision which is about fashion in electronics. Um and then, as I say uh w we'd like to prioritise our design features from this and um Maria Hughes: Bouncing on top. Karen Attaway: Dunno. Okay. Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: Um. found here, um a lot of this is new to Karen Attaway, so we'll just read through together. Um, users dislike the look and feel of current remote controls. So they find them ugly. Most people find them ugly. Um the vast majority would spend more money for it to look fancy as well, we'll see later, the vast majority would spend more money for um slightly more intuitive control, such as Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Karen Attaway: voice recognition. Okay I'm gonna we'll look at that in a second. Um most people use only a f a very slim portion of all the controls. So I guess what we're looking at here is people want this h technology, they tend to use the most simple controls and overall they find remote controls to be something they don't doesn't really appeal to them. Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Karen Attaway: So I think what we're doing is we're trying to take like if for Karen Attaway this is sorta like three different different um inspirations, you know, one is that we want uh something that's high-tech but we want it to seem easy. And in spite of the primitive side of it and the very high-tech side, we want it to just be an appealing piece of equipment in people's hands. Um, frustrations. They get lost a lot, s as it came up in our last meeting. Um, takes time to learn how to use them. This is uh why I mention when Craig was uh showing us some ideas that we actually try and group controls, so d it doesn't just look like a big panel, kinda like when you you look at, you know, a new computer keyboard, or something that is quite explanatory. If you want audio, if you want visual, then you have those. Um and I will admit I don't know what R_S_I_ stands for. Amy Santos: Repetitive strain injury. Maria Hughes: Is installing a new remote control something that people Karen Attaway: Uh, no, that did not come up at all. Um so here here is another um sort of a a review here of the main things. I also found that most people would uh adults at least would pay more for voice recognition. Now apparently we do have access to all the tech cutting edge technology in remote control. So I dunno if that's possible we might consider getting into it. Um. And and again here as we sort of move m sort of thin start thinking about how we wanna sell and market this, I think a recurring theme here is the company wants it to be wants us to make something that's fashionable and sleek Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Karen Attaway: and trendy. Um people uh additionally aren't aren't liking the appearance of their products, so we wanna think about as we take all the sort of the techie features how we can um put that into a unit which is which people like. You know, Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: they like the aesthetics and the ergonomics. Amy Santos: So want something that looks good and is easy to use, Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: big priorities. Karen Attaway: Yeah, Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: so you know just c looking at what what Craig um Craig's i uh ideas are s sorta tell Karen Attaway that maybe what we wanna do is try and um separate the different things that we wanna include in this. So if we do say well we want there to be all the technology will we try and make that almost be like optional technology. You know, it's like like I find a lot of T_V_s these days, something really like about 'em is if you wanna just turn 'em on and off you can, but they have little panels where you click Amy Santos: Mm. Karen Attaway: and there's just like tons of features Amy Santos: So Karen Attaway: you Amy Santos: it Karen Attaway: go Amy Santos: you Karen Attaway: through. Amy Santos: wanna group all the different kind of Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: types of functions together, you know. That's I think Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: it's a good idea. Karen Attaway: That's s that's sort of the um But I I'm my hope here is that I'm putting out this information so that we can then say okay, well how do we collectively move Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Karen Attaway: on with it. Um Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: I I haven't brought out one specific marketing idea, although my sense is that what we should try and think about is what are the current trends in materials and shapes and styles, Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Karen Attaway: and then use that. But not let that confine us technologically. Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: So Amy Santos: Right. Karen Attaway: Alright? Any um comments on all of that? Amy Santos: Well, um Karen Attaway: That's Amy Santos: one Karen Attaway: uh Amy Santos: of the things that we have to decide on by the end of the meeting is who we're gonna be um who's our our target audience, our target market. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: Um, so if we want something that that looks good and is easy to use, but has y is fairly powerful product, whatever, who do we really want to aim that at? Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: I mean Karen Attaway: Where's the money, maybe. Amy Santos: Yeah, who wou who would have the money to spend. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: Well i if Karen Attaway: And who watches Amy Santos: if like Karen Attaway: T_V_. Amy Santos: twenty five Euro is our is our selling price Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: then you can imagine, well I don't I'm not really sure how much that will Karen Attaway: Mm. Amy Santos: retail at. But you want it's somebody who's not gonna just use the remote that comes with their telly, I suppose, Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: they're gonna actually go out and buy one. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: So, who do you think we're aiming this at? Maria Hughes: Um, I think it'll be the mid range to the high end market, in terms of people. 'Cause twenty five Euros for a remote, how much is that lo locally in pounds? Amy Santos: It's about sixteen, seventeen pounds, I think. Maria Hughes: Is that too is that a lot of money to buy an extra remote or a replacement Amy Santos: Yeah, Maria Hughes: remote? Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: okay. Maria Hughes: Right. Um so maybe not the high end range, but maybe middle, middle up-ish. Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: Kind of. You know how much? I dunno I guess you pay, Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: what, ten ten quid for a remote? Like a simple replacement, Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: right. I mean if you lost your remote and the first thing Amy Santos: Yeah, Maria Hughes: you just wanna go Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: out and get, Amy Santos: yeah. Karen Attaway: This Maria Hughes: would you Karen Attaway: this Maria Hughes: how much Karen Attaway: kinda Maria Hughes: would you Karen Attaway: touches Maria Hughes: pay? Karen Attaway: on your comments there, David. These are the age groups which we Maria Hughes: Yeah. Karen Attaway: have information on and these are this is a table of h what people would pay more for a certain feature. Just Amy Santos: Okay Karen Attaway: gives us a rough idea of where the w the will to spend money on T_V_ equipment is. Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: Mostly focused around the twenty five age group. Amy Santos: Yeah, so do you think we're we're aiming at a fairly young market then? Maria Hughes: Yep. Karen Attaway: Sort of young professional, kind Amy Santos: Yeah, Karen Attaway: of. Mm-hmm Amy Santos: okay. Mary Baker: Um Amy Santos: Um do you think then uh voice recognition is something we should really seriously consider? What what do you think, Craig? Mary Baker: Well, did you not say it was the the adults that were going for the the voice recognition? Sort of the Karen Attaway: Uh, Mary Baker: the older Karen Attaway: yeah, Mary Baker: group. Karen Attaway: it's the Yep. Mary Baker: Uh Karen Attaway: It Mary Baker: f Karen Attaway: does it does fit with the market that we're sort of identifying, Amy Santos: N yeah. Karen Attaway: in terms of Amy Santos: I think we are gonna have to narrow it down, to say let's target these Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: people and give them what they want and Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: 'cause you know, Karen Attaway: Sure. Amy Santos: there needs to be some kind of Karen Attaway: Sure. Amy Santos: selling point to Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: it. So um anybody anything there to add Just kind of young professionals, uh th like if we are going to include speech recognition, it's kind of between fifteen and thirty five seems to be like a really high response to that. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: So we could say Maria Hughes: I Amy Santos: that Maria Hughes: I Amy Santos: was Maria Hughes: think Amy Santos: our target. Maria Hughes: twenty five to thirty five is is is fair to add that in as Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: a group Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: as well because Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: that's more than half your group of people who are willing to at least try Karen Attaway: Yeah, Maria Hughes: and use your technology. Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Karen Attaway: yeah. Amy Santos: Okay, so fifteen to thirty five, look fairly young. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: Yeah. Amy Santos: You know, they have bit of expendable income to spend on this sort of thing. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: I think perhaps that age group is significant as well because those are people who use the computer, Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: who are familiar with their with computers in in their everyday work. Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: I think people who are maybe about Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: I wouldn't say thirty five, but people who are about Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: forty-ish and above now Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: would Karen Attaway: But Maria Hughes: not Karen Attaway: yeah. Maria Hughes: be so dependent and reliant on a computer Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: or Karen Attaway: Yeah, Maria Hughes: a mobile Karen Attaway: sure. Maria Hughes: phone or something like that. Amy Santos: So Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: So these are people who are gadgety, right? People Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: who are u growing up used to, you know in schools and in universities, when you go on to their working lives, Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: people who would Amy Santos: So Maria Hughes: you Amy Santos: they'll Maria Hughes: know regular Amy Santos: not sh not shy Maria Hughes: Yeah. Amy Santos: away from something Maria Hughes: Yeah. Amy Santos: quite high-tech. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: That that's Maria Hughes: Mm. Amy Santos: that's a good point. Um okay, so um so shall we make the decision uh to include speech recognition Karen Attaway: If we can. Amy Santos: if we can. Maria Hughes: I I think Mary Baker: Yeah. Maria Hughes: one thing we should try not to avoid is not to say we have to use speech recognition right now, Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: because Amy Santos: Why is that? Maria Hughes: um, based on what you've go y everybody's saying, right, you want something simple. You want basic stuff and you want something that's easy to use. Speech recognition might not be the simplest thing Karen Attaway: Right. Maria Hughes: for somebody Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: to use. Karen Attaway: Could it be an on off thing? Maria Hughes: Um, Karen Attaway: Like if you want it Amy Santos: Where you can Maria Hughes: but Amy Santos: activate Maria Hughes: what Karen Attaway: on Maria Hughes: I'm saying Amy Santos: it and Maria Hughes: is Amy Santos: deactivate Maria Hughes: that we're Amy Santos: it? Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: we're trying to lock ourselves into a s particular kind of technology, Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: rather than focusing on on exactly what are the features that we're Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: gonna say, Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: and then, you know, Karen Attaway: Sure. Maria Hughes: say speech recognition is good for this, speech recognition is not good for this. Karen Attaway: Sure. Maria Hughes: So Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: maybe we should I suggest Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: that we think about speech recognition, Karen Attaway: Sure. Maria Hughes: anyway it's a it's something that can be used to fulfil a function, but Amy Santos: Uh-huh. Maria Hughes: at end of the day we don't look at the technology, but Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: we look at the function first. Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: Sure. Yep. Amy Santos: Uh okay, well do you wanna um give us your presentation Maria Hughes: Okay, sure. Amy Santos: and then then we can I Karen Attaway: Yep. Amy Santos: don't know um might have been a good idea to all deliver our presentations and then discuss, Karen Attaway: Yeah, Amy Santos: but Karen Attaway: it's Amy Santos: this is Karen Attaway: good Amy Santos: this Karen Attaway: well Amy Santos: is Karen Attaway: it's Amy Santos: how we're Karen Attaway: good to get ideas out while Amy Santos: Yeah, Karen Attaway: they're fresh in mind. Amy Santos: exactly, yeah. Karen Attaway: Um Amy Santos: Oh it's something that's just occurred to Karen Attaway as well is if we make it um speech reco if we incorporate speech recognition, that's appealing to people um maybe with Karen Attaway: Not Amy Santos: a physical disability as well. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: Um. Karen Attaway: And not losing. And also it helps in terms of people not losing this, you know they Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: they're saying oh it's I lose it in the couch. Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: like we're kind of what we're b sort of getting in into here is mating different uh design features Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Karen Attaway: together that they Mary Baker: I reckon one problem with speech recognition is um I've actually seen one of them used and uh the technology that was in that one wasn't particularly amazing, so you end up yelling at the control for hours. Amy Santos: Really? Karen Attaway: Right. Mary Baker: Channel up. Karen Attaway: Oh really, you've seen one before. Amy Santos: Do you think maybe we need like Mary Baker: Um Amy Santos: further advances in that kind of area until it's worthwhile incorporating Mary Baker: I think it'd Amy Santos: it Mary Baker: probably Amy Santos: though? Mary Baker: quite expensive Maria Hughes: Sorry, do Mary Baker: to Maria Hughes: you mind passing Amy Santos: Mm. Mary Baker: put in. Maria Hughes: Karen Attaway my Amy Santos: Course Maria Hughes: notepad. Amy Santos: not. Maria Hughes: Thanks. Cool, Amy Santos: There you go. Maria Hughes: um. Okay. Um. Amy Santos: Right. Maria Hughes: Well this is just the working design Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: um. Well this is just what how I would go about it. Um I guess I try to define like what we're doing now, try to define what we're trying to get done. Um Karen Attaway: Right. Maria Hughes: I think in a practical way, we kind of know what it is. We've used it, we're familiar with it, but we're we can't n we haven't narrowed down um exactly what the things we're trying to fulfil, like Besides the basics, I think back in the back of our minds we know what the basics are. Has to change channels, has to change volume, but in like specifics, right, which one of the basics are you trying to target. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: Um are there certain parts of the basics that are more important or less important than the basics? Um and I just the idea is just to get everybody to um I usually have a have have a design that's there as a basic, so, you know, things that to start everything going. But I guess everybody does have some idea, so I don't think um there's a need for that. Um okay this finding things is a little bit confusing, so I'll go into the diagram first. It just explains how the process goes through, Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: from a from the basic technology point of view, the basic steps that you need um in the diagram and in this slide probably works better. Um okay, you need some power source. 'Kay, a battery or something, Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: to keep it going. Um and that power source is important because it ties you down to um how long the device will last. Amy Santos: Uh-huh. Maria Hughes: Um it ties you down perhaps a bit later on in terms of the technologies um how far you can transmit the signal or the complexity of the functions Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: that you want. Like for example, voice recognition, right. might be constrained because that you might need to power a microphone, you might need to power other things, so that's one perhaps constraint there. Um Th Okay, the basic thing is there's a user interface where people punch a button or talk into it or smile to it or blink their eyes, whatever. Amy Santos: Hmm. Maria Hughes: You know, and that um picks up an input from a user, um uh a logic a series of logic has to decide what the user is telling the device, and the device has to r you know, based on you push button A_, so I will do something with button A_. So maybe button Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: A_ is the power button, Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: okay. Um and then it needs to be able to send the signal out to the device itself which is the receiver here. Um and I think that's about it in terms of my design um. It's fairly general, um and I guess the purpose of this is also not to restrict you Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: in in the way you're thinking, like um voice recognition, right, um, if it's something which is important then we just add more power rather than having a thing that we don't have enough power. So it's not Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: really a constraint in that sense, Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: but I mean these are functionally, you know, the base, Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: what Karen Attaway: Okay. Maria Hughes: the technology has to do. Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: Um so I guess the rest of it I think we should maybe you you wanna go back to what the functions are? I think that's Karen Attaway: 'Kay. Amy Santos: Uh. Maria Hughes: more relevant to a discussion? Amy Santos: Well, do Karen Attaway: Sure. Amy Santos: you wan do you wanna finish up Karen Attaway: Sure. Amy Santos: your your whole presentation Maria Hughes: Yeah, w I'm done. Amy Santos: then? Are you are you all done? Maria Hughes: More or less. Yeah. Ps Oh, it's just putting the rest of it into words, but it's essentially Karen Attaway: Yep. Maria Hughes: the same thing. Amy Santos: Mm. Maria Hughes: Um you have a transmitter, an input Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: device, logic chip, you know, stuff Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: Right. Maria Hughes: like that. Um Amy Santos: Right. Karen Attaway: And like on the means Maria Hughes: I guess this would Karen Attaway: b Maria Hughes: be Karen Attaway: Since we're on the topic of the technology, Maria Hughes: Yep. Karen Attaway: uh are there any like what are our options? Alright, what's what i in Is this the only way that we go about it, or are there Maria Hughes: Um, Karen Attaway: other Maria Hughes: these these Karen Attaway: thin Maria Hughes: aren't technology options in that sense. Karen Attaway: Right. Maria Hughes: This is just um Karen Attaway: The basic Maria Hughes: a Karen Attaway: principle Maria Hughes: basic Karen Attaway: of Maria Hughes: principles Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: and Karen Attaway: 'Kay. Maria Hughes: basic components that are needed. Karen Attaway: Right. Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: For example, if you needed um if you needed to add uh a voice recognition, right, then your user interface would be split, broken down into more components, Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: right, which you have a microphone, Amy Santos: Oh. Maria Hughes: the V_R_ Karen Attaway: Okay. Maria Hughes: and stuff like that. Amy Santos: So this just show how Maria Hughes: Uh Amy Santos: we're kind of modularising the whole Maria Hughes: Yep. Amy Santos: thing. Okay. Maria Hughes: Yep. So each component represents one function, Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: but I think the basic functions are the logic, the transmitter, um and the receiver, Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: okay, and the power are things that you won't have to care about. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: Um and those are things that based on what your user interface requires then Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: we'll add more functionality to it. Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: Um there might be one other consideration which would be that the the transmission between the remote control and the T_V_ for example. Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: Okay, Karen Attaway: Okay. Maria Hughes: um are we gonna restrict ourselves to using the traditional technologies of infra-red Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: thing? Because that's something you need to actually be physically be pointing to. Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: Right. Maria Hughes: Right. Amy Santos: Well well a worry that was was expressed in the new requirements was that if we made this too complex it would e it would effect um how long how long it took us to get this to market, so I th suspect it might be a good idea just to restrict our kind of our creative influence on this on the user interface and not worry so much about uh how we transmit it Maria Hughes: Yep. Amy Santos: um because I mean it it's tried and tested intra-red, so Maria Hughes: There might Amy Santos: we Maria Hughes: be Amy Santos: could Maria Hughes: one Amy Santos: stay with tha Maria Hughes: other problem with the transmission, um in particular right now, since we're talking about voice recognition. Um if somebody's gonna h talk to the device, you ideally Amy Santos: Mm-hmm Maria Hughes: want them to hold it to them. Amy Santos: Oh, Maria Hughes: I it Karen Attaway: Right. Amy Santos: yeah. Maria Hughes: you may not require that, but Karen Attaway: Right. Maria Hughes: you know, um it's it's it's something very natural, I guess, Amy Santos: Yeah, Maria Hughes: you know, to Amy Santos: mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: hold it, to signal to the user, and push a button maybe to start s talking Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: about it. Then you need to send the signal out, so Amy Santos: Mm. Maria Hughes: because if you're using infra-red, the line of sight Amy Santos: Mm. Maria Hughes: um say the T_V_'s at that chair, and I'm standing in front of here and the transmitter is here, Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: it blocks it. Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: So in that sense, there's not really a restriction but it's something which Karen Attaway: Right. Maria Hughes: you may have to think about later on in the process. Karen Attaway: Okay. Maria Hughes: Not so much Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: further Karen Attaway: And Maria Hughes: down. Karen Attaway: um just a clarification before we finish this. Uh does c is our controller is it have the option of being um on a standard uh frequency as all of the other equipment, so that the one controller can control Maria Hughes: There's there's not much specific Karen Attaway: several pieces of Maria Hughes: specific Karen Attaway: equipment? Maria Hughes: information, Amy Santos: W Maria Hughes: but I think that um one indication of infra-red mean that you're just targeting traditional devices. Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: Okay. Maria Hughes: Because Amy Santos: W Maria Hughes: infra-red is something which everybody has. Amy Santos: Well well we've um In the new requirement spec they said just to focus Karen Attaway: Just Amy Santos: on Karen Attaway: to Amy Santos: the T_V_, Karen Attaway: T_V_, okay. Amy Santos: so that's what we should do for now I think. Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: Something I was wondering about was the power. Um, is it worth considering like having like a charging unit as opposed to just regular batteries? I mean is that something we really want to go into, do you think, or should we Maria Hughes: There's Amy Santos: just consider Maria Hughes: a there's Amy Santos: running Maria Hughes: Okay, Amy Santos: on Maria Hughes: from Amy Santos: regular Maria Hughes: from Amy Santos: batteries? Maria Hughes: a from a component point of view there's added complexity, Amy Santos: Uh-huh. Maria Hughes: and you add cost to it, Amy Santos: Uh-huh. Maria Hughes: um and then there's probably the fact that you need another physical component. You need a docking cradle, for Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: example, Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: for you to Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: put it in to charge. Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: Or you need to get the user to plug it in. Um Amy Santos: Okay, so Maria Hughes: and most users are very f use already used to the idea of buying batteries and putting it into Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: the controller. But unless the controller's gonna consume a lot of batteries, like he's gonna run through like Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: twenty batteries a month, then I don't think rechargeable is something we should you know, we Karen Attaway: Yeah. Amy Santos: Okay, Maria Hughes: really Amy Santos: so Maria Hughes: need Amy Santos: just Maria Hughes: to Amy Santos: stick to to regular Maria Hughes: care about. Um. Amy Santos: Okay. Um, right. So basically the um I'm just gonna just recap uh what I said at the start, was that um the the whole point of this meeting was to f absolutely finalise who we're gonna aim this at, and Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: what exactly the product's gonna do. Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: So um just to recap on Are we all happy about the idea of um aiming the product at um the fifteen to thirty five bracket? Karen Attaway: Yeah, Amy Santos: Um Karen Attaway: that's Amy Santos: and Karen Attaway: good. Amy Santos: also the funct the the actual functions of what it's gonna do. Do you wanna recap on that, Craig? Mary Baker: Um. I think we just say that it was gonna be the the most basic stuff possible. Um on off, up and down channels, up and down volume and uh skip to a channel. Amy Santos: Okay, Mary Baker: Ta. Karen Attaway: And Amy Santos: right. Karen Attaway: is it going to include any of the uh the more advanced features, or are we gonna eliminate those? Mary Baker: Um I think we include mute, but apart from that um I think we just we'll go for the simpleness. Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: Okay, Karen Attaway: R Maria Hughes: I Karen Attaway: is Maria Hughes: think Karen Attaway: it is it is it s is it not an option still that we include some things just as a sort of under like sort of under a door Amy Santos: Yeah, Mary Baker: Yeah. Amy Santos: it's Karen Attaway: or Amy Santos: as Karen Attaway: some Amy Santos: optional functions. Karen Attaway: 'Cause what what I'm I'd be a bit worried about is if someone was h had previously developed habits of expecting to control surround sound or this and that with their controller and then and then they, you know, w they get ours and w it's doesn't have that. I dunno Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: if that'd be a problem. Maria Hughes: Another thing that you were saying about categorising the controls? Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: Um maybe I could suggest we we break them down into three simple categories. Karen Attaway: Yeah. Okay. Maria Hughes: One would be audio controls, Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: one would be video controls, Karen Attaway: Okay. Maria Hughes: and the other one would be a device. Um this may not map very well to advanced functionality especially, but I think that um from a manufacturer's point of view, Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: from a person designing the device, but I think from a point of view of a person using the device, you know a T_V_ is something they see and something they hear, Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: um it's something they do other things to like turn it on and turn it off. Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: I mean like Karen Attaway: Right. Maria Hughes: so what we could have is like three buckets, right, where we could throw things into, like if we want this feature, let's throw it into there, Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: and then from there decide whether it's basic, or it's non-basic. Karen Attaway: 'Kay, okay. Maria Hughes: I mean Karen Attaway: Like Maria Hughes: it Karen Attaway: that. Maria Hughes: might help with the visualisation. Karen Attaway: Okay. Maria Hughes: And it would actually help with the component build Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: as well. Amy Santos: Okay, Karen Attaway: Mm okay, great. Amy Santos: right. Um, okay well I gotta kind of got five minutes to wrap up now. Um next thing we're doing is having lunch. Whoohoo. Um and then we're gonna have thirty minutes of working on the next stage. Um so I'll be putting the minutes of this uh this meeting into the project documents folder. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: Um so uh I guess just to just to confirm that we know what we're doing in the next well Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: in the thirty minutes after lunch anyway, um for uh our Industrial Designer, you're gonna be thinking about the components concept. Um User Interface Designer gonna be thinking about our user interface, and marketing you're gonna be thinking about trend watching. Um and you'll all get specific instructions as well. So um I dunno, just just to to ask now if you've got anything else you've thought about while we've been talking. Um, do you wanna start with David. Anything else to say at all? Maria Hughes: Mm no, not Amy Santos: No, Maria Hughes: really. Amy Santos: okay. Karen Attaway: Um Amy Santos: Andrew? Karen Attaway: yeah, just I just wanted to ask then before we wrap up, shall we agree for sake of um sort of clarity and when we when we r resume that we'll u use this idea David's proposed, where we think of these three sort of buckets and Amy Santos: Yeah, Karen Attaway: anything Amy Santos: yeah I think Karen Attaway: anything Amy Santos: that's definitely Karen Attaway: we discuss Amy Santos: a good Karen Attaway: about Amy Santos: idea. Karen Attaway: them is sort of, okay, we're talking about this. Amy Santos: Uh-huh. Karen Attaway: Shall we Maria Hughes: Mm. Karen Attaway: do that, then? Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: Okay, great. Mary Baker: Um just about the three buckets, um what would go in the the device functions one? Maria Hughes: Um things like on off. Because they don't have anything to do with what you see. Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: I Karen Attaway mean in terms of picture and the entertainment value, you know, um Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: so um Karen Attaway: And Mary Baker: Um Karen Attaway: and channel. Maria Hughes: And channel. Karen Attaway: Right. Maria Hughes: Because the on off also goes, you know, like on off like power, not on off sound. Not Amy Santos: Yeah. Maria Hughes: on off video. Although you don't turn off the video on your T_V_, but um you Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: might wanna you know turn off the sound, say you wanna pick up the phone, there's a mute button, right, so Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: you you have you have a choice of putting it on to um others or a device. Device is basically anything which we can't categorise, right. Amy Santos: Okay, Maria Hughes: We Amy Santos: so Maria Hughes: put it Amy Santos: you're Maria Hughes: out. Amy Santos: gonna have um audio which is gonna be like you know your bass settings and Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: actual volume Maria Hughes: Yeah, anything to do with Amy Santos: hi Maria Hughes: what you hear, right. Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: You you put that into audio. Amy Santos: Okay, Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: And Amy Santos: and then Maria Hughes: then Amy Santos: visual Maria Hughes: video is anything that you can see. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: Okay, Maria Hughes: Um. Amy Santos: so brightness, contrast, Maria Hughes: Yep. Amy Santos: things like that, Karen Attaway: Colour, yeah. Amy Santos: and then just actual device things, Maria Hughes: Yep. Amy Santos: like Karen Attaway: Sure. Amy Santos: what channel you're watching, Karen Attaway: Sure. Amy Santos: turning on an off, Maria Hughes: Yep. Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: stuff like that. Okay, Karen Attaway: And Amy Santos: um Karen Attaway: then k I suppose quite likely what would happen is in the d device category there might be some which are just like the habitual standard and then others which are maybe a bit more Maria Hughes: Like Amy Santos: Mm-hmm. Maria Hughes: random which we Karen Attaway: Yeah. Maria Hughes: have no other place to put, Amy Santos: Yeah. Karen Attaway: Sure, Maria Hughes: but we Karen Attaway: okay. Maria Hughes: need it somewhere there. Amy Santos: Okay. Karen Attaway: Okay. Maria Hughes: Um even even if it doesn't map very clearly what happens is that people at least have some in their mind. It's easy to use, I think that's one thing that um and I guess from the component point of Amy Santos: Okay. Maria Hughes: view it's easy to build as well 'cause things are like fixed. Karen Attaway: Okay. Amy Santos: Okay. Um so yeah, I guess just things to think about are you know like the fact it's gotta look good, because of who we're we're, you know, targeting this at. Um something maybe kind of quirky in design maybe. Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: Make it kind of ergonomic kind of to Karen Attaway: Mm-hmm. Amy Santos: hold, you know, things like that. Um, so I guess I guess that's it. Karen Attaway: Great. Amy Santos: That's the meeting over. Whoohoo. Karen Attaway: Then we get to go find out what was picked up for lunch for us.

Amy Santos briefed the team on some new requirements to consider when designing the remote. Mary Baker presented two existing products and discussed what was wrong with each product. The team discussed how to create a remote which did not include the problems present in the existing products presented by the interface specialist. Karen Attaway presented consumer preferences and requirements and the team discussed who their target demographic should be and whether to include speech recognition in their product. Maria Hughes discussed the interior workings of a remote and the team discussed various options for components and energy sources. The team then discussed features to include in the remote and what they could do to figure out how to categorize them.

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Heidi Reid: Okay we all all set? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design, the user interface design, and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control, like absolute final decision, um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap, we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display, no need for talk-back, it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons, maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial, and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed? Avis Poling: No. Heidi Reid: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead. Jean Puga: Uh-oh. This is it? Avis Poling: Ninja Homer, made in Japan. Jean Puga: Um, a few changes we've made. Um, Heidi Reid: Okay. Jean Puga: well look at the expense sheet, and uh Heidi Reid: Mm. Jean Puga: it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside, Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Jean Puga: so instead we've um this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen, um just a a very very basic one, very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button. Sandra Sexton: Mm 'kay. Avis Poling: And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions? So the advanced functions are still hidden from you, but they're hidden in the sense that um they're not in use. Sandra Sexton: Where are they? Avis Poling: Um they're in the L_C_D_ panel and the jog-dial? Sandra Sexton: Ah, right. Avis Poling: Okay Sandra Sexton: Great. Avis Poling: 'cause Heidi Reid: So w what kind of thing uh is gonna be Avis Poling: The L_C_D_ panel just displays um functionally what you're doing. If you're using Sandra Sexton: Right. Avis Poling: an advanced function right, like um c brightness, contrast, whatever, Sandra Sexton: Okay. Avis Poling: it will just say You know it's like only has four columns, it's a very simple L_C_D_ like, Sandra Sexton: Right. Avis Poling: whereas many the minimum amount we need that the user will automatically know like this is brightness or this is contrast. Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Sandra Sexton: Right, Heidi Reid: Okay cool. Avis Poling: It might even Sandra Sexton: 'kay. Avis Poling: be one, a bit more complex L_C_D_ panel with Sandra Sexton: Okay. Avis Poling: pictures like maybe the sun or the, you know, the the symbols of the various Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Heidi Reid: Oh Avis Poling: functions. Heidi Reid: right okay. Sandra Sexton: and what is Heidi Reid: Cool. Sandra Sexton: this here? Avis Poling: That's a number pad. Sandra Sexton: Okay so the number pad is Heidi Reid: Where Sandra Sexton: 'Kay, Heidi Reid: are we gonna Sandra Sexton: great. Heidi Reid: have the slogan? Avis Poling: Um Jean Puga: You know, just like Avis Poling: they're al along Jean Puga: right Avis Poling: this Jean Puga: inside Avis Poling: Yeah. Jean Puga: there. Heidi Reid: Okay cool. Avis Poling: You have this space here, and then you have this thing on the side as well, or at the bottom. Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: 'Cause slogans are usually quite small, right, they're not like Sandra Sexton: Mm. Avis Poling: huge so they're s Sandra Sexton: Yep. Avis Poling: Say a button's Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: Looks Avis Poling: about Sandra Sexton: good. Avis Poling: say a button's about this size, right, Sandra Sexton: Yep. Avis Poling: so you would still have plenty Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: of space for a slogan, say even Heidi Reid: So Avis Poling: for that. Heidi Reid: if this isn't to scale, what kind of dimensions are you thinking about here? Jean Puga: Well we want the other buttons to be big enough to push easily Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Jean Puga: with a finger so we reckon maybe that'll be about the same size as the palm Sandra Sexton: Okay. Jean Puga: of your hand. Avis Poling: Yep so that would be about a centimetre for a button, so one two three four centimetres. Plus maybe half Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: o five Sandra Sexton: About nine Avis Poling: six Sandra Sexton: in total. Heidi Reid: Six, Avis Poling: seven Heidi Reid: seven, Avis Poling: eight, Heidi Reid: eight, nine, ten. Avis Poling: about Heidi Reid: So Avis Poling: yeah nine total. Heidi Reid: we're Sandra Sexton: That Heidi Reid: talking Sandra Sexton: sounds Heidi Reid: about Sandra Sexton: good. Heidi Reid: ten Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: centimetres. That would be Sandra Sexton: Yep. Heidi Reid: good. So Avis Poling: Nine, Heidi Reid: ten Avis Poling: ten. Heidi Reid: centimetres in height. Avis Poling: Yep. Heidi Reid: Okay um. Sandra Sexton: That'd be good, in fact a pen is about ten centimetres usually, so that would be that sounds a really good size Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: if, you see it there. Heidi Reid: That's great and it's very bright as well. Sandra Sexton: Mm. Heidi Reid: So um okay. Sandra Sexton: Is it possible uh I'm just gonna bring up the idea of colours. Is these are these the colours that of production, Jean Puga: Well I'm Sandra Sexton: or is this just what we had available? Jean Puga: We're gonna have again the the sort of the foggy um yellow from last time that lit up when you pushed the button. Sandra Sexton: Right. Jean Puga: Um Heidi Reid: Okay so just could you just list all the things that it does s so I can write them in the report. Jean Puga: But um this button um, because it's red it's sort of very prominent, we're gonna use it as uh it can be the power button if you hold it for maybe two seconds it'll Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Jean Puga: send a stand-by signal. Um apart from Avis Poling: Excuse Jean Puga: that Avis Poling: Sandra Sexton. Jean Puga: it's gonna Avis Poling: Sure. Jean Puga: be used as a confirm button for the L_C_D_ screen Heidi Reid: Okay. Jean Puga: and you use this as a jog-dial. Heidi Reid: Okay so that's like an okay button, right. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: Oh we've discussed Jean Puga: I don't Avis Poling: how Jean Puga: know. Avis Poling: h high it is, but how wide is it? Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: How high is it? Avis Poling: No as in the height, Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: but what about the width? Jean Puga: Didn't Heidi Reid: Oh Jean Puga: put five Heidi Reid: oh Jean Puga: centimetres. Heidi Reid: like depth of the actual Avis Poling: Do we need five? Heidi Reid: thing. Avis Poling: I don't think Jean Puga: Um. Avis Poling: five is be about th three and a half. Sandra Sexton: Okay. Jean Puga: Something Heidi Reid: Oh is this Jean Puga: by Heidi Reid: k Jean Puga: there. Heidi Reid: to get an idea of scale Avis Poling: Yeah, Heidi Reid: from your Sandra Sexton: Sure. Heidi Reid: from your Avis Poling: yeah. Heidi Reid: thing there okay. So you can power on and off, Sandra Sexton: Three and Heidi Reid: what else Sandra Sexton: a half. Heidi Reid: can you do? Jean Puga: Um you can skip straight to a channel using these buttons. Heidi Reid: Okay. Jean Puga: Um, were gonna have the volume control here, but um because we've got the the L_C_D_ and the jog-dial we just thought we'd um use that as the volume. Heidi Reid: Okay jog-dial for volume. And what Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: else do you do with the jog-dial? Jean Puga: Um you can use it for um more advanced functions like contrast, colour and Heidi Reid: Contrast, brightness, Jean Puga: Um yeah. Heidi Reid: yeah, and anything else? Jean Puga: Um just whatever else we wanted to include as the advanced functions, um we didn't actually go through and specify the Heidi Reid: Well of the designers what are they? Jean Puga: Uh what can a T_V_ do? Avis Poling: Okay things like um brightness, contrast, Heidi Reid: Uh-huh. Avis Poling: um maybe tuning the channels. Heidi Reid: Okay channel tuning. Avis Poling: Um. Heidi Reid: That's a good one. Avis Poling: What else? Um the various inputs. Are you having a V_C_R_, are you Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Avis Poling: having Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm. Avis Poling: you know which input do you have? Heidi Reid: Okay auxiliary Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, probably Heidi Reid: inputs. Avis Poling: Um. Sandra Sexton: colour or sharpness. Avis Poling: Yep, colour, sharpness. Heidi Reid: Sharpness. Avis Poling: Um a lot of these things will have to be um free and open for users to define them. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: Okay what about uh sound settings? Uh d can you change any of those at all? Sandra Sexton: Audio. Avis Poling: Audio, we have like Jean Puga: Um. Avis Poling: your basic y your base, your mid-range, your high range. Um. Jean Puga: the the balance hmm. Avis Poling: Yep, left-right balance, um maybe even pre-programmed sound modes, like Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: um the user could determine like a series of sound modes, and then Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: what could happen would be um when you click on that then it would go to that setting. Heidi Reid: Okay, Sandra Sexton: Mm 'kay. Avis Poling: Yeah. Heidi Reid: is there anything else at all it can do? That 'cause that's that's fine. Just need to know so I can write it down. Okay um right I g I guess that's it, so we can now um We can now have a little look at the the Excel sheet and price listing, and see if we need to Jean Puga: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: um if we need to rethink anything at all. So um for this first part here power-wise, have we Avis Poling: The Heidi Reid: got Avis Poling: battery. Heidi Reid: battery? Do we have kinetic as well? Avis Poling: No. Heidi Reid: No. Okay, Avis Poling: Um. Heidi Reid: just battery. Avis Poling: We need an Heidi Reid: And that's because of cost restraints Avis Poling: Yep. Heidi Reid: is it? Jean Puga: Yeah. Heidi Reid: Okay um Avis Poling: Yeah advanced Heidi Reid: what about the Avis Poling: chip. Heidi Reid: electronics here? Avis Poling: We Heidi Reid: Advanced Avis Poling: need an advanced Heidi Reid: chip. Avis Poling: chip I think, yep. Let Sandra Sexton just confirm that. Yes I think so. Yep. Heidi Reid: Okay um the case, what does it mean by single and double, do you know? Jean Puga: Um I think single would just be sort of one sort of oval whereas double is this sort of thing. Avis Poling: Yeah. Heidi Reid: So we want double-curved? Avis Poling: Yep. Heidi Reid: Okay. Um. Avis Poling: Plastic. Heidi Reid: Is there any rubber at all in the buttons Avis Poling: I think we're Heidi Reid: or any Avis Poling: gonna have to skip the rubber. Heidi Reid: Okay, Avis Poling: Um. Heidi Reid: um and we wanted special colours didn't Avis Poling: Yep. Heidi Reid: we? So I'll have to put that Oh no wait we ho how many colours have we got there? Avis Poling: For the case itself, one colour. It's one special colour. Heidi Reid: Just one colour, okay. Avis Poling: 'Cause the case unit itself, the rest of our components Heidi Reid: Okay Avis Poling: go on top Sandra Sexton: Mm. Avis Poling: of it. Heidi Reid: so interface-wise, is it this third option we Avis Poling: Yes. Heidi Reid: have, the two of them there? Avis Poling: One and the L_C_ display. Heidi Reid: Okay and then buttons, Avis Poling: How many Heidi Reid: we have what, Jean Puga: Um we have Heidi Reid: two Jean Puga: um Heidi Reid: colours? Jean Puga: got some Sandra Sexton: Or even Jean Puga: push buttons Sandra Sexton: clear. Jean Puga: as well. Avis Poling: We've got push buttons as well. Heidi Reid: Like uh Jean Puga: 'Kay. Heidi Reid: oh wait so push button and integrated scroll wheel push okay. Jean Puga: So I reckon we've got one button for this thing 'cause it's just one big sheet of rubber. Heidi Reid: Uh-huh. Jean Puga: I'm not sure if that counts but Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: Okay let's just be safe and put like say four buttons for that one. Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: Okay um and maybe a special colour for the buttons, so maybe four again. Heidi Reid: Four. Jean Puga: You can see we're we're all very Heidi Reid: So Jean Puga: far Heidi Reid: w Jean Puga: beyond Heidi Reid: why Jean Puga: the Heidi Reid: are we arriving at the number four? Where does the number four come from? Avis Poling: 'Cause that's one button by its the complexity of twelve buttons. Heidi Reid: Okay right, so Avis Poling: So Heidi Reid: we're writing Avis Poling: we're Heidi Reid: down Avis Poling: just Heidi Reid: four. Avis Poling: estimating that yeah it would be less. Heidi Reid: Okay. How about these? Are we wanting them in Avis Poling: No. Heidi Reid: no they're just is Avis Poling: Yep. Heidi Reid: everything gonna be plastic? Avis Poling: Yep. Heidi Reid: Okay. So we're w w quite far over. Now we're gonna something's gonna have to go. Um we're at sixteen point eight and Sandra Sexton: Uh how mm-hmm how are we going to achieve this high-end product if Heidi Reid: Well we h something has to Sandra Sexton: We Heidi Reid: go Sandra Sexton: only have Heidi Reid: to the tune Sandra Sexton: very Heidi Reid: of Sandra Sexton: sparse Heidi Reid: two point t three Euro, so let Sandra Sexton see, what are we Sandra Sexton: Two Heidi Reid: I mean Sandra Sexton: point three? Four point three no? Heidi Reid: oh yes sorry, four point three. My maths is all out. Jean Puga: Well we could take out ones by making it single curved, just fill in those bits. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: And then where Avis Poling: How Sandra Sexton: is Avis Poling: much Sandra Sexton: the Avis Poling: would that save us? Heidi Reid: How much would that save Avis Poling: That Heidi Reid: us? Avis Poling: will only save Jean Puga: That Avis Poling: you one. Jean Puga: is one. Heidi Reid: One. Avis Poling: The other thing could be that um you could take away the L_C_D_ panel and the advanced chip together, um because when you do something on the T_V_, Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: the T_V_ responds and reacts as well, so the user could be looking at the T_V_ and pushing his thing Jean Puga: That's Avis Poling: so Jean Puga: fair Avis Poling: we Jean Puga: enough, Avis Poling: may Jean Puga: yeah. Avis Poling: not need to Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: so when we scroll we need just some way to Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: get the T_V_ to respond, Heidi Reid: Okay Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: so Avis Poling: which I think is a technically doable thing so Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: So w what's our reviewed suggestion? Um take away the L_C_ display? Avis Poling: Yep. And Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: the advanced chip goes away as well. Heidi Reid: To be replaced with a Avis Poling: Regular chip. Heidi Reid: regular chip. Avis Poling: Yep. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: So what that means is that Heidi Reid: And Avis Poling: um Heidi Reid: so we've got point three to get rid of. Um and we ha where are the four the four push buttons are where exactly now? Avis Poling: The twelve buttons that you see there. Heidi Reid: Twelve buttons. Jean Puga: That's um one piece of rubber but it's gonna have twelve button Heidi Reid: Yeah. Jean Puga: things underneath Avis Poling: Functionally Jean Puga: so Avis Poling: you're gonna have to intercept So four is a good estimate for Heidi Reid: Do you think? Avis Poling: Yeah, so you can't actually cut It's like three times the number of Heidi Reid: Like Avis Poling: buttons, Heidi Reid: is Avis Poling: four, eight, twelve. Heidi Reid: is that one big button or is it twelve buttons, how Avis Poling: It Heidi Reid: can it be something in between? Avis Poling: It needs to be more than one big button because if you open up your phone, underneath Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: there's actually Heidi Reid: Mm. Avis Poling: one button underneath, it's just that the panel itself is a single panel. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: Okay well we have point three to get rid of somewhere. Avis Poling: We just Heidi Reid: Mm. Avis Poling: report that it has to be over budget, or the colours, you Heidi Reid: No Avis Poling: could Heidi Reid: can Avis Poling: take away Heidi Reid: do. Avis Poling: s colours for th for the buttons. Sandra Sexton: Yeah we could just go with Jean Puga: Yeah w Sandra Sexton: um Avis Poling: Normal coloured buttons. Heidi Reid: Well do you want colour differentiation here? Avis Poling: No Jean Puga: Um Avis Poling: that's not the button we're talking Heidi Reid: Oh yeah Avis Poling: about. Heidi Reid: sorry Avis Poling: That's Heidi Reid: yeah then. Avis Poling: the buttons only refer to the pad so Heidi Reid: Right so Avis Poling: Should we take that off uh? Heidi Reid: Ah. Avis Poling: Hey Heidi Reid: That's Avis Poling: it's back Heidi Reid: it. Avis Poling: to the original. Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Avis Poling: Um so then these just become normal coloured buttons, Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: so that might be some some way of cutting the cost. Sandra Sexton: Mm. Heidi Reid: Okay, ach that's a shame. Um right, so take away that completely? Ah. And now we're under budget. So we do have point five Euro to play with if we wanted. Um Jean Puga: So I reckon Sandra Sexton: How about with embossing the logo, isn't that going to cost us some money? Heidi Reid: Doesn't say so. Sandra Sexton: Yeah. That's Jean Puga: Reckon that Sandra Sexton: a freebie. Jean Puga: probably counts as a special form for the buttons. Avis Poling: Yeah. Heidi Reid: a good idea. Just one? Does that mean that one button has a special form or Jean Puga: I think there's just one button so Heidi Reid: Yeah Jean Puga: handy. Heidi Reid: okay. Well well there we go. So I'm just gonna have to redraw this now. So we're not gonna have the L_C_D_ anymore, and we'll just gonna have an on t on the T_V_ it'll show you what you're doing, which I think is fair enough, and so this is gonna be one big thing here. Um. Sandra Sexton: Was the goal in your in your prototype design that it be as low profile as possible? Avis Poling: What do you mean by Jean Puga: Yeah. Avis Poling: profile? Sandra Sexton: Sort of flat as possible. Avis Poling: No. Jean Puga: You see I envision it as being um quite deep sort of Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Jean Puga: deep enough to be comfy to hold in your hands Sandra Sexton: Yeah that's Jean Puga: rather Sandra Sexton: what I Jean Puga: than Sandra Sexton: was Jean Puga: being Sandra Sexton: thinking, Jean Puga: wide Sandra Sexton: to Jean Puga: and flat. Sandra Sexton: Sure, Avis Poling: We Sandra Sexton: okay. Avis Poling: didn't have enough Play-Doh to make it three Sandra Sexton: Yeah Avis Poling: D_. Sandra Sexton: alright yeah fair enough. Okay, just thought I'd ask. Avis Poling: So there's one more dimension to the thing Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: which we need to to add, and you might want to add in the report, height. Heidi Reid: Right okay. Avis Poling: Yeah. Heidi Reid: So just to well to be thorough then, width-wise we're looking at about what three centimetres or something? Avis Poling: Yeah. Heidi Reid: Okay and then so Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Heidi Reid: height-wise How how tall do you envisage it being? About Jean Puga: Yeah Heidi Reid: that Jean Puga: it works, Heidi Reid: big? Avis Poling: Two. Jean Puga: yeah. Heidi Reid: About two centimetres, okay. Sandra Sexton: Two's not very high at all though. Maybe Avis Poling: This Sandra Sexton: a bit Avis Poling: is Sandra Sexton: higher? Avis Poling: about this is about two. Slightly more than Jean Puga: See, Avis Poling: two, Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: so Jean Puga: about that thick. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: Maybe closer Heidi Reid: Ach, that Sandra Sexton: to Heidi Reid: is Sandra Sexton: three even Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: Okay. Sandra Sexton: or two and a half. Heidi Reid: Okay we'll s we'll say two point five. Okay um so we have it within cost anyway. Um so yeah project evaluation is this point. Um. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: Right uh. Okay so can we close that? This is what it's the final spec that it's gonna be. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: Someone is gonna have to yeah that's fine that's fine. Sandra Sexton: Um it's probably just I dunno if it's worth getting into, but um just in in that we want this to be stylish, should we think a little bit more out of the box in terms of a button grid, because I've seen there's lots of devices out there that that instead of taking your standard nine nine square grid, and they have it sort of stylized or in different concept that that Avis Poling: I think that's something that's very hard to catch, Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: so you you restrict the number of people who wanna try something. Sandra Sexton: Sure, okay. Avis Poling: The the look and the colour is something which is cool, Sandra Sexton: Yeah, alright. Avis Poling: but I think that there's also that factor of if it's too unfamiliar Sandra Sexton: Okay, Avis Poling: then Sandra Sexton: sure. Avis Poling: um because when you put Sandra Sexton: What about Avis Poling: it on the Sandra Sexton: button Avis Poling: shelf Sandra Sexton: shape? Square buttons? Avis Poling: Yeah button shape might be a good idea to change, Sandra Sexton: Okay. Avis Poling: rather than rather than positioning, Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: 'cause I think positioning is Sandra Sexton: Sure. Avis Poling: we're kinda engrained into the Jean Puga: Yeah. Avis Poling: the telephone kind Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: of Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: pad. Heidi Reid: Right um. So at this point we uh, let Sandra Sexton see, discuss uh how satisfied we all are with um with these four points, with the room for creativity in the project, and leadership and teamwork, and the stuff we had around Sandra Sexton: Mm 'kay. Heidi Reid: us I guess. Um, let Sandra Sexton see uh Sandra Sexton: Do you want Sandra Sexton to d um Do you want Sandra Sexton to do my um design evaluation last? Avis Poling: Maybe Heidi Reid: Yeah I wasn't Avis Poling: we should Sandra Sexton: Or Heidi Reid: really Avis Poling: do the Heidi Reid: sure Avis Poling: design evaluation Heidi Reid: what that was Avis Poling: first. Heidi Reid: Yeah, Sandra Sexton: Evaluation. Heidi Reid: yeah go for that first. I wasn't entirely sure what uh Sandra Sexton: Okay. Heidi Reid: who was supposed to be doing that, but Sandra Sexton: Sure. Heidi Reid: y you go for it. Sandra Sexton: Um, alright so the way this works, I'm gonna need to plug into PowerPoint, Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: I'll try and do it as quick as possible. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: Um, this is um I'll just go over your head if that's okay. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: I don't think you need the power, so Sandra Sexton: What's that? Avis Poling: No, that's okay that's okay. Sandra Sexton: I don't need the PowerPoint? Avis Poling: No, the power cord itself. Sandra Sexton: Oh course, Avis Poling: Yeah, Sandra Sexton: yeah that's Avis Poling: so Sandra Sexton: true. Avis Poling: then you have Sandra Sexton: Let Avis Poling: a Sandra Sexton: Sandra Sexton Avis Poling: bit Sandra Sexton: get Avis Poling: more Sandra Sexton: that. Avis Poling: freedom to Sandra Sexton: A bit more. Okay, Avis Poling: You you still have your blue Sandra Sexton: so Avis Poling: fingers. Sandra Sexton: what this is is a set-up for us to Jean Puga: Is it? Sandra Sexton: um Avis Poling: You Sandra Sexton: uh use Avis Poling: killed Sandra Sexton: a kind Avis Poling: a monster. Sandra Sexton: of a like a The idea is that I've set up I've reviewed all of the um the points of discussion from the beginning, and used that as a criteria of evaluation for the um uh for the current design uh th or the plan, and uh so we can review that. Uh I think it's gonna end up being sort of elementary because we're sort we're in n we're not gonna probably use it to change anything but Doesn't seem like it's going, does it? Heidi Reid: Oh there it is. Sandra Sexton: Yeah, okay great. Uh and I'm gonna write up our results on the board, so this'll be a way for us to go through and decide if we're um sort of review where we stand with it. Okay, so um So to sort of b bring together two things, sort of design goals and also the market research that we had, uh when we rate this, one is v high in in succeeding or fitting to our original aim and seven is low, okay. Heidi Reid: Mm 'kay. Sandra Sexton: So these i these i th are the and um we've been asked to uh to collectively rate this, so what we can do is try and just y work on a consensus system so we just come to an agreement. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: Okay? So the first one uh, stylish look and feel. Avis Poling: I rate that pretty highly. Heidi Reid: Well yeah, Jean Puga: Yeah. Heidi Reid: I mean compared to most Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: remote controls you see that's pretty good. I dunno Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: like a six or something. Sandra Sexton: Yeah Heidi Reid: What Sandra Sexton: um Heidi Reid: does anybody else think? Sandra Sexton: Sandra Sexton uh my only reservation with it was that we basically went with yellow because it's the company's colour, Heidi Reid: Mm. Sandra Sexton: and I don't know if yellow's gonna really be a hit. Heidi Reid: Mm. Sandra Sexton: But Heidi Reid: Okay. Jean Puga: I'm seeing five then. Sandra Sexton: What do you guys think? Heidi Reid: I would say five or six. Sandra Sexton: Okay. Heidi Reid: David? Avis Poling: Yep I'm fine with that. Sandra Sexton: Okay let's go with five then. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: Fi oh uh just Avis Poling: It's Sandra Sexton: actually Avis Poling: one Sandra Sexton: the opposite. Avis Poling: to seven, right? Sandra Sexton: The Heidi Reid: Oh yes sorry Sandra Sexton: So it meant Heidi Reid: then, then I would say two Sandra Sexton: three, Heidi Reid: or three. Sandra Sexton: okay. Avis Poling: Wait, what's the scale, one to seven, Jean Puga: One's Avis Poling: right? Heidi Reid: Yeah. Jean Puga: high-ish Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Jean Puga: isn't it? Sandra Sexton: one is high. Jean Puga: Ah, okay so yeah, two or three. Sandra Sexton: 'Kay Avis Poling: Okay, it's Sandra Sexton: Let's Avis Poling: upside-down. Sandra Sexton: go with two point five then. Okay, um control high tech innovation. Heidi Reid: Well it Sandra Sexton: We Heidi Reid: has Sandra Sexton: had to Heidi Reid: the Sandra Sexton: remove Heidi Reid: wee jog-dial but Sandra Sexton: Yeah, so we've had to remove a few of our features we Heidi Reid: Mm. Sandra Sexton: wanted, but jog-dial 's Heidi Reid: I'd Sandra Sexton: good. Avis Poling: Say Heidi Reid: go with Avis Poling: it's more Heidi Reid: three Jean Puga: Eight Heidi Reid: or Jean Puga: three. Heidi Reid: four, Avis Poling: medium, Heidi Reid: maybe three. Avis Poling: but going towards a little bit higher than medium Sandra Sexton: Okay, Avis Poling: kind of Heidi Reid: Yeah Avis Poling: thing. Heidi Reid: about Sandra Sexton: three? Heidi Reid: three, okay. Avis Poling: Yep. Sandra Sexton: Okay, um Style reflects a fruit inspired colour, design. I Avis Poling: Lemon. Sandra Sexton: shouldn't have said colour, but just Heidi Reid: Well that's Avis Poling: Okay, Heidi Reid: kind Avis Poling: the Heidi Reid: of Avis Poling: blue Jean Puga: Yeah. Avis Poling: the blue Sandra Sexton: Sorta. Avis Poling: colours and don't re don't actually represent the colour, except Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: for the b the the red button, they because for want of a Heidi Reid: But Sandra Sexton: Right. Heidi Reid: the yellow, I mean it could be Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Heidi Reid: a lemon Sandra Sexton: could Heidi Reid: yellow Sandra Sexton: be. Yeah. Heidi Reid: colour, Avis Poling: Yeah, the Heidi Reid: couldn't Avis Poling: the yellow Heidi Reid: it? Avis Poling: is more representative of the colour, but Sandra Sexton: Okay. Avis Poling: the Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: button itself, the blue can be anything else. Sandra Sexton: Okay so we'll go two. Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Sandra Sexton: Yeah? Okay, and um design is simple to use, simple in features. Heidi Reid: Well yeah, I mean it's really basic Sandra Sexton: F Heidi Reid: looking Sandra Sexton: f Heidi Reid: isn't it? I Sandra Sexton: yeah Heidi Reid: mean I'd give that nearly a one. Sandra Sexton: f fairly basic, you guys think? Jean Puga: Yeah one. Avis Poling: Yep, Sandra Sexton: Yeah, one? Avis Poling: that's Sandra Sexton: Okay. Avis Poling: fine. Sandra Sexton: Um, soft and spongy, have we achieved that? We've used mostly plastic in the end so it's going to be quite Jean Puga: Yeah I think Sandra Sexton: a bit Jean Puga: it's Sandra Sexton: of Jean Puga: about Sandra Sexton: a compromise Jean Puga: five. Sandra Sexton: for price. Five? Heidi Reid: Five? That's Jean Puga: Yeah Heidi Reid: really low. Well Jean Puga: well we have to use uh plastic so it's Heidi Reid: Yeah Jean Puga: probably Heidi Reid: I Sandra Sexton: That's Jean Puga: gonna Heidi Reid: suppose Jean Puga: be Heidi Reid: mm 'kay. Sandra Sexton: Um Avis Poling: Yeah, Sandra Sexton: could Avis Poling: company Sandra Sexton: we have Avis Poling: logo. Sandra Sexton: used an entirely rubber frame to it? Was that an option? Jean Puga: I think I'd probably Avis Poling: I think Jean Puga: increase Avis Poling: it'll Jean Puga: the cost. Avis Poling: be cost Jean Puga: We've only Sandra Sexton: It Avis Poling: prohibitive, Sandra Sexton: would Jean Puga: got Sandra Sexton: cost more than plastic. Jean Puga: like what, Avis Poling: yeah. Jean Puga: ten Sandra Sexton: Okay, Jean Puga: cents left Sandra Sexton: logo, Jean Puga: so Sandra Sexton: we've got it in there, haven't we? Avis Poling: Yep. Heidi Reid: Yep. Gonna have that on the side, aren't we, like there or something? Sandra Sexton: Huh. And um it's within budget, yep. It is, isn't it? Jean Puga: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: Okay, so we can say then that uh out of a possible or what would be our goal here? Heidi Reid: Out of forty nine, I guess. Sandra Sexton: Yeah, out of forty nine with with zero being the highest. We are at uh two, seven, eight, ten, fifteen point five. Heidi Reid: 'S pretty Sandra Sexton: So Heidi Reid: good. Sandra Sexton: it's pretty good. Translates to something like about approximately seventy two percent efficacy of our original goal. Right? Heidi Reid: Uh Sandra Sexton: I think Heidi Reid: yeah. Sandra Sexton: 'cause if you turn that into a hundred it would be about Heidi Reid: Twice that, Sandra Sexton: about thirty Heidi Reid: about thirty Sandra Sexton: one, Heidi Reid: one. Sandra Sexton: and then invert that, it's Heidi Reid: So yeah ab well yeah about sixty nine, seventy percent Sandra Sexton: Oh right, Heidi Reid: yeah. Sandra Sexton: about seventy, yeah seventy percent. Heidi Reid: It's pretty good. Sandra Sexton: Okay, good. That was just a little formality for us to go through. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: Yep, oh hundred pound pen. Sorry alright. Heidi Reid: Nobody saw it, honestly. Sandra Sexton: No. Avis Poling: The cameras did. Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Heidi Reid: Is that you all have all finished, or Sandra Sexton: Yeah that's that's Sandra Sexton. I did have one other um one other frame I thought, I mean I I d not knowing how we would deal with this information, I thought okay in theory this kind of a process would be about refining our design, revisiting Heidi Reid: Uh-huh. Sandra Sexton: our original goals. It's not something I need to p push through, but I thought should we thinking more about the dimensions, um sort of like more of a three dimensional shapes as well as opposed to just that flat um Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Sandra Sexton: Could our design involve a series of colours so that it's more of like a line where we have like sort of the, Avis Poling: Yep. Sandra Sexton: I don't know like the harvest line or the vibrant, I dunno the Whatever just some theme and then we have different tones, lime green, lemon. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: It's just discussion. I mean obviously we can just abandon this, it's fine. I'm just thinking about what we originally set out to do. Um, Heidi Reid: Right. Sandra Sexton: yep so there. That's all. Heidi Reid: Okay, great um are you submitting the the um evaluation criteria or am I? I don't know what your instructions have been. Sandra Sexton: Um, I think to record it and uh I haven't been asked to submit it yet. Yeah. Heidi Reid: Okay, uh just wondering if I need to include it in the minutes, because if you're submitting it anyway Sandra Sexton: I Heidi Reid: then Sandra Sexton: will, yeah. Heidi Reid: Okay great. Avis Poling: It keeps getting too big. Heidi Reid: Cool. Um right, uh well next up then, because we've done finance, is the project evaluation. Avis Poling: 'Kay I'm I'm listening I'm just trying to incorporate the logo into the Heidi Reid: Oh right, Avis Poling: the Heidi Reid: okay. Avis Poling: thing, so I'm playing with the Play-Doh as well. Just in case you're wondering, Sandra Sexton: Huh. Avis Poling: why is he still playing with the Play-Doh? Avis Poling: Just about right L_E_G_O_ Lego. Jean Puga: My leg. Heidi Reid: Right, okay. Um well do you wanna um just individually say what you think about about these four points and or not those four points, my four points, sorry, forgotten that. You got a different uh Sandra Sexton: Yep. I like those printer cables that just have the two little butterfly clips Heidi Reid: Oh yeah, Sandra Sexton: like that. Heidi Reid: they're good Sandra Sexton: It's Heidi Reid: aren't Sandra Sexton: really Heidi Reid: they, yeah. Sandra Sexton: quick. Heidi Reid: Right Sandra Sexton: To use. Heidi Reid: okay, um yeah here we are. Uh as a note we'll do this alphabetically. Um do you wanna start Sandra Sexton: Sure, Heidi Reid: Andrew? Sandra Sexton: um so what is it you're asking of Sandra Sexton now? Heidi Reid: I don't know, just um your opinion on those four those four points really and how we Sandra Sexton: Or sort of our work Heidi Reid: used Sandra Sexton: on Heidi Reid: them. Sandra Sexton: setting this up. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Well, is it uh okay I'll just go through your system then. The the room uh is fairly institutional, but um the main thing is, I think um our use of this space is more just to report on things as opposed to be creative and constructive and it would probably help to um have l sort of a cumulative effect of we have ideas and we come back and then the ideas are still in discussion, you know, as Heidi Reid: Uh-huh. Sandra Sexton: in other words this this room is sort of a centre point of creativity, whereas in reality as we've gone through this, it's not really the centre point of creativity, it's more just a Heidi Reid: Well d do Sandra Sexton: d Heidi Reid: you feel Sandra Sexton: debating Heidi Reid: though that that you were able to have quite a lot of creative input into the Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Heidi Reid: thing? Sandra Sexton: yeah but that's just the thing is the quest in terms of the the first point there, the room, it feels as though the creativity goes on when we leave, and then we come here and then we kind of put out our ideas and then, you Heidi Reid: But Sandra Sexton: know. Heidi Reid: I don't I don't think it means the room as in this room. I think Sandra Sexton: Oh, Heidi Reid: it means like you Sandra Sexton: oh right right, oh Heidi Reid: know Sandra Sexton: right okay Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: room for creativ Oh right I just looked up and saw okay whiteboard, Heidi Reid: Room. Sandra Sexton: digital pens, the room. Heidi Reid: Oh yeah. Sandra Sexton: No, of course, yeah. Heidi Reid: Well I dunno do you th Sandra Sexton: Sorry. Heidi Reid: I think it means um Sandra Sexton: Huh. Heidi Reid: I think it means did you feel Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: you were able to give creative input so Sandra Sexton: Yeah I th okay on th um yeah dif answering the question uh in those terms I'd say that actually there's sort of a tease of creativity because we're asked to work through this, but actually the guidelines are fairly contrived in terms of Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Sandra Sexton: um okay fashion trends, say fruit and vegetable colour scheme, but then i then we're told okay use the co company Heidi Reid: Mm. Sandra Sexton: company colours. So what do we do. We're told okay um think in terms of style and look and feel and technology, but build something for twelve and a half pounds, Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: so actually the creativity was more more of like a um a f sort of a f formality then an actual Avis Poling: You Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: feel like you're caged within Sandra Sexton: Yeah Avis Poling: whatever Sandra Sexton: within the constraints Avis Poling: y It's Sandra Sexton: the Avis Poling: like a balloon in a cage, it can Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: only go so big and not hit the side. The Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Avis Poling: constraints Heidi Reid: Okay Sandra Sexton: yeah. Heidi Reid: uh Avis Poling: do come Heidi Reid: do Sandra Sexton: So Heidi Reid: you know Avis Poling: in Heidi Reid: what, Avis Poling: very fast. Heidi Reid: actually let's take each point and everybody discuss it, I think. Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: Yeah. So still on the topic of room for creativity uh next up is Craig. Jean Puga: Um I agree with his point it's um it is quite a lot of fun t to go and then you have sort of hit the end then go right, gotta cut everything out 'cause we don't have enough money. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: Yep. Avis Poling: I think another point is that the meetings um are more brainstorming sessions than Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: meetings, so time is also a very s um strong factor, and structure. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: Because for a brainstorming meeting you want a structure that allows you to allows ideas to get tossed, Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Heidi Reid: Mm. Avis Poling: um Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm. Avis Poling: to be evaluated, and to be reviewed, and to get feedback and Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Avis Poling: come back. And Sandra Sexton: yeah. Avis Poling: I guess that point about the room not being r very friendly to that, I think Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: that's a very big thing, and I think the fact that we're wearing these things Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Avis Poling: restricts Sandra Sexton: sure. Avis Poling: I feel it 'cause I wear Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: m my glasses, right, and that but that irritates Sandra Sexton right Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: it it it does actually you know affect Sandra Sexton: New creativity. Avis Poling: how, w whether you feel comfortable to communicate. I feel like I'm hiding behind the equipment, Sandra Sexton: Yep. Avis Poling: rather than the equipment is helping Sandra Sexton, and Sandra Sexton: Right. Heidi Reid: So you Avis Poling: you Heidi Reid: think Avis Poling: know. Heidi Reid: a more relaxed atmosphere would be more kind of conducive Avis Poling: Not not so much Heidi Reid: to Avis Poling: an Heidi Reid: creative Avis Poling: atmosphere, Heidi Reid: thought Avis Poling: the atmosphere Heidi Reid: or Avis Poling: is very relaxed, but Heidi Reid: Yeah, Avis Poling: the Heidi Reid: but actual Avis Poling: the Heidi Reid: environment? Avis Poling: gear yeah you know that creates Sandra Sexton: Mm. Avis Poling: boundaries to that um Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: and Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: and the time the time given also Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: restricts Heidi Reid: Very good. Um what about leadership? I don't know if that means like, if I did a good job or something. I don't really know. Sandra Sexton: Yeah, well well I mean my sense on that is sort of what kind of guidance and direction, encouragement Heidi Reid: From like your personal coach person and stuff like that, do you think maybe? Sandra Sexton: Yeah from and you as well I think, just sort of acting as team leader. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: Um yeah I think I think it's Avis Poling: Excuse Sandra Sexton: I think Avis Poling: Sandra Sexton. Sandra Sexton: it's good. I mean my personal views on on leadership is that effective effective leadership sort of um gives people a certain room for freedom and delegation, but then to come back with something that they take great ownership and Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Sandra Sexton: you know, innovative thought with. In in reality I think here the the different elements of leadership such as the the original b briefing and then the personal coach and the and then you know having having you with your the meeting agenda is actually quite a quite a quite a con confining framework to work within. And so it is leadership almost to the point of sort of disempowering the the the team member, Heidi Reid: Uh-huh, Sandra Sexton: so Heidi Reid: okay. Sandra Sexton: But it's not bad leadership, it's just sort of s fairly strong, you know. It turns it turns the individual into more of like a um sort of a predetermined mechanism, as opposed to a Heidi Reid: So you think maybe Sandra Sexton: sort of a free Heidi Reid: a little too controlling or Sandra Sexton: Yeah, oh yeah, without Avis Poling: I think Sandra Sexton: without Avis Poling: controlling Sandra Sexton: a doubt. Avis Poling: is not the right word, I think Sandra Sexton: Yeah maybe not Avis Poling: the Sandra Sexton: co Avis Poling: interactions Sandra Sexton: confining. Avis Poling: are very structured. I Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: think structure is probably Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Avis Poling: what you're saying that, Sandra Sexton: yeah. Avis Poling: each individual is structured to one particular Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Avis Poling: task, Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm. Avis Poling: and Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: one parti rather than controlling. I don't think there's Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: a sense of control 'cause Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: all the decisions have been made in terms of a, like a consensus Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Avis Poling: right, Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm. Avis Poling: we go around and we think about it, but Heidi Reid: Uh-huh. Avis Poling: that Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Avis Poling: you know process actually Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm. Avis Poling: says you have to do it in a certain way. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: It doesn't tell you, you know, some ways that you might wanna be a bit more Sandra Sexton: Mm. Avis Poling: creative in terms Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Avis Poling: of the Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm. Avis Poling: process you Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: know, not the Heidi Reid: Okay, uh what about teamwork? Sandra Sexton: Um did, you Jean Puga: Uh, Sandra Sexton: wanna comment Jean Puga: reckon Sandra Sexton: Craig? Jean Puga: that was a bit hard because we could only discuss things in the meeting. Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Jean Puga: If we could just go up to somebody outside the meeting and have a quick talk with them, that would've been a lot easier. Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: Fully Avis Poling: I think you Sandra Sexton: agree. Avis Poling: tried to use the common share folder to to to to communicate, but um it just comes back to us so slow in the email Heidi Reid: Mm. Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: um it it doesn't have a, you know, a messenger will go. Heidi Reid: Did Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: uh did you guys get the email I sent you? Jean Puga: Not just yet. Avis Poling: Yeah. Heidi Reid: Oh that's Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Heidi Reid: alright. I was Sandra Sexton: got Heidi Reid: wondering Sandra Sexton: the email. Heidi Reid: if that got Avis Poling: Okay. Heidi Reid: there okay. Okay, um so um to s to to summarize the teamwork issue, saying that if we could communicate outside the meeting, you know just like quick questions, quick thoughts, whatever, Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: it probably would be Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Heidi Reid: bit Avis Poling: I think Heidi Reid: easier. Avis Poling: the Sandra Sexton: in Avis Poling: tools Sandra Sexton: it Avis Poling: that they were given, the tool set that were given to us are fancy but they don't support collaboration, Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Avis Poling: I think that's the Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm, Avis Poling: word. They don't Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm, Avis Poling: support the Heidi Reid: Oh Avis Poling: team Sandra Sexton: exactly. Heidi Reid: right, Avis Poling: working Heidi Reid: okay. Avis Poling: together, Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Avis Poling: you Sandra Sexton: I mean Avis Poling: know, Sandra Sexton: if you Avis Poling: they're still very individual tools. Sandra Sexton: Yeah, I mean sort of taking upon that idea, w the way I see this i is that it's uh the the s the structure in which we've we've approached this whole task is quite contrary to the p principle of teamwork because the the tasks were d d sort of um divided, and then the work went on in isolation Heidi Reid: Mm. Sandra Sexton: I I don't know what you guys did while you were together, maybe that was a bit different, but Avis Poling: We had Sandra Sexton: um Avis Poling: Play-Doh fun. Sandra Sexton: yeah, but um but actually if you if you imagine not entire the completely same task given to us but us said okay, first thing we have to do is come up with um let's say um a design concept, and we sit here together and do it, Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: well that's what teamwork is. To s to say okay go off and don't talk to each other, Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: it's actually p sort of predisposes you to quite the contrary of teamwork. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: Um not that we haven't done I think the best we could have done. Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: I'm not dissatisfied with it. Heidi Reid: Right, uh anything else to say on teamwork at all? Avis Poling: No, not really. Heidi Reid: Okay, um what about the you know how we used the whiteboard, the digital pens, the projector, stuff like that? Um did Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: anybody think anything was like really useful, anything was pretty un f unsupportive? Sandra Sexton: I think the whiteboard, for Sandra Sexton, is the kind of thing I would use all the time, but it's um not quite as useful as to us as it could have been, maybe just in the way that we we use it, in the sense that once we have an idea out there or while work was going on in between meetings, that could have been up on a board Heidi Reid: Mm. Sandra Sexton: uh you know as opposed to in like in text. Um, and then we could then keep our ideas sort of building on that. I know that people who design cars and you know in aviation they quite often just have a simple like fibreglass prototype and it's completely you know um abs abstract from Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Sandra Sexton: the final product, but they use it as a kind of a context to sort Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: of walk around and puzzle and Heidi Reid: And point Sandra Sexton: and Heidi Reid: at? Sandra Sexton: point and discuss Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: and and and in a way everybody's as we discuss things in the in theoretically and out of our notebooks, we're just we're actually just each of us discussing something that's in each of our own minds. It wasn't until we had Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: this here, you know, like at one point I peeked across and looked at Craig's paper and I'm like, now I know what he's thinking 'cause I Heidi Reid: Ah. Sandra Sexton: saw his book. But the b the b whiteboard could've actually been this kind of continuing um Heidi Reid: So do you think producing a prototype earlier in the process woulda been a good idea? Sandra Sexton: Think could be, yeah. Avis Poling: I think um the the focus of it a lot was the PowerPoint as opposed Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: to the to the Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Avis Poling: whiteboard, and Sandra Sexton: yeah. Avis Poling: I think that m um Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: is also does Sandra Sexton: Yeah, yeah. Avis Poling: you know hinder us and things I think. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: It will be cooler to have the whiteboard rather Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: than the the PowerPoint, or Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: maybe the whiteboard and the PowerPoint in the same place, Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Heidi Reid: Okay. Sandra Sexton: yeah. Avis Poling: you know in the centre of Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Avis Poling: the Sandra Sexton: because the PowerPoint was provided to us while we had time to prepare, whereas I can imagine if I'd been encouraged to use Paintbrush, for example, Heidi Reid: Alright. Sandra Sexton: or whatever, I would've actually used it, um 'ca you know, just 'cause that's sorta how we what we were set up to to use while we had our time. Heidi Reid: Okay Avis Poling: I Heidi Reid: uh Avis Poling: think that there were too many PowerPoints in the meetings. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Jean Puga: Yeah. Avis Poling: 'Cause the plug-in Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: and the plugging spent we spent Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: a lot of time doing that. And a Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: lot of the information on the PowerPoints, I don't think, you know, we needed to Sandra Sexton: No, Avis Poling: actually it could have, Sandra Sexton: not Avis Poling: we Sandra Sexton: quite. Avis Poling: could have gone through it verbally, especially Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: my slides, I felt that Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: they just Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: you know as opposed to having Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: to present them. Heidi Reid: What about the digital pens, did you find them easy enough to use? Jean Puga: Oh they're a Sandra Sexton: Sure, Jean Puga: bit clunky. Sandra Sexton: yeah. Avis Poling: Yep clunky. Agreed. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Yep. Heidi Reid: Clunky, okay. Sandra Sexton: Mm. Heidi Reid: Um Avis Poling: Having to tick it before you go off was a bit hindering as well, Sandra Sexton: Mm. Avis Poling: 'cause you're Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: half way through a thought, and then you run out of paper and then you have to jump. Heidi Reid: I know, I think Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: at the very start of today I like wrote a whole load of stuff, didn't click note on one, then went back and wrote one tiny wee thing on the another page, but then did click note, Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Heidi Reid: and so I'm quite worried that I've just written over the top Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Heidi Reid: of it Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Heidi Reid: or something, Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: but they'll have my paper anyway um Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Heidi Reid: and haven't done that Avis Poling: But I Heidi Reid: since. Avis Poling: think the pen is v is very intuitive, everybody knows how to use it, we don't Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Avis Poling: have Heidi Reid: Yeah, Avis Poling: to worry. Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm, Avis Poling: So Heidi Reid: yeah. Avis Poling: I think the pen's good. Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm. Avis Poling: It's about the best thing. Sandra Sexton: And o on the topic of the technology, it just occurred to Sandra Sexton that we actually didn't need to move our computers because each computer has all of the files. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: It just occurred to Sandra Sexton that they Avis Poling: Yeah Sandra Sexton: all Avis Poling: we only needed one computer Sandra Sexton: We only actually Avis Poling: and Sandra Sexton: needed one computer. Heidi Reid: Yeah, Sandra Sexton: If there Heidi Reid: that's Sandra Sexton: had been Heidi Reid: true. Sandra Sexton: a fifth, that coulda Jean Puga: Good Sandra Sexton: just Jean Puga: point. Sandra Sexton: been sitting there ready to go the whole Avis Poling: And Sandra Sexton: time. Avis Poling: the computer may not um be conducive to a meeting because Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: um you tend to look at your computer and wanna have Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: the urge to check something, Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: you know, it's useful but Heidi Reid: Do you think the computers just provide distraction in a meeting? Avis Poling: I think too many computers are just Jean Puga: Yeah. Avis Poling: distracting. Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: Um Heidi Reid: I know I I like to have things written down in front of Sandra Sexton actually, Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: like a lot of the stuff that was emailed Sandra Sexton: Yep. Heidi Reid: to Sandra Sexton I ended up you know like Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: writing down there Avis Poling: Yep. Heidi Reid: or something so I could look at it Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: really quickly and not have the distraction of all of that, um I don't know about anybody Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: else. Um what else uh any wh I do I'm not really sure what they're looking for when they say new ideas found. Um Jean Puga: Is this Heidi Reid: I don't Jean Puga: for Heidi Reid: know Jean Puga: the project Heidi Reid: is could you think of like Jean Puga: or Heidi Reid: anything else that would have been helpful today at all? Sandra Sexton: Well, the w main one for Sandra Sexton is that uh the process na in a natural f context would not have been interrupted by this necessity to discommunicate ourselves Heidi Reid: Mm. Sandra Sexton: from each other. So, Heidi Reid: Yeah if we just Sandra Sexton: that's Heidi Reid: had Sandra Sexton: kind Heidi Reid: uh Sandra Sexton: of a new idea for Sandra Sexton is like just sort of that idea, well you know it's kind of s hard to keep f working forward on a team a team based project Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Sandra Sexton: when when you're told you must now work away from your team. Heidi Reid: Yeah I I dunno I think it was quite good that we had time limits on the meetings because they really could have run on and like my experience Sandra Sexton: Oh Heidi Reid: with meetings Sandra Sexton: yeah. Heidi Reid: is that they really do, and Sandra Sexton: Yeah, Heidi Reid: you can spend a lot Sandra Sexton: yeah. Heidi Reid: of time talking about The only thing is though like when we had our meeting about the conceptual design, I thought there maybe another fifteen minutes would have been useful there but Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Heidi Reid: um Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: yeah. I really thi i I think maybe if we'd like all been working in the one room, and they just said you know like every hour or something everybody make sure yo you know Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: just have a have a short meeting and then just Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: c just to have like something written down, Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: just like you know a a milestone if you like um rather than having meetings, but There you Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Heidi Reid: go. Um so in closing, I haven't got my five minutes to go. Thin Oh there it i Five minutes to go. Wonderful. Okay um are the costs within the budget, yes they are. And is the project evaluated, yes it is. So now celebrate. Sandra Sexton: Great. So Avis Poling: And we Sandra Sexton: it Avis Poling: have Ninja Homer. Sandra Sexton: So now Jean Puga: Oh Sandra Sexton: we Jean Puga: yeah. Heidi Reid: Well apparently now I write the final report. Jean Puga: Do we know what Heidi Reid: What Jean Puga: the Heidi Reid: are you Jean Puga: other Heidi Reid: guys Jean Puga: ones are? Heidi Reid: doing now? Sandra Sexton: I I don't know. Heidi Reid: You dunno? Jean Puga: Oh wow. Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Heidi Reid: That is lovely. Jean Puga: Hey yeah, I said Ninja Homer. Sandra Sexton: What did you call it? Avis Poling: Ninja Homer. See it looks like Homer Simpson Sandra Sexton: Huh, huh. Avis Poling: but it's Heidi Reid: So Avis Poling: electronic Heidi Reid: is that j Avis Poling: so it's made Heidi Reid: is that Avis Poling: in Sandra Sexton: Logo. Avis Poling: Japan. Heidi Reid: just is that just a logo or does it do anything? Avis Poling: Yeah it's just a logo. Heidi Reid: Just a logo and Sandra Sexton: Huh. Heidi Reid: then like Ninja Avis Poling: Ninja Heidi Reid: Homer, Avis Poling: Homer. Heidi Reid: right okay. Sandra Sexton: Mm. Avis Poling: The the red is supposed to represent the whatever else you wanna print on the side of it. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: I think it's Sandra Sexton: Fashion Heidi Reid: quite nice. Sandra Sexton: technology or something. Avis Poling: You can wear Homer, you can throw Homer when you're frustrated, doh. Sandra Sexton: Hmm, hmm, hmm. Heidi Reid: Oh no, that's cool, it's got I'm kind Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Heidi Reid: of Avis Poling: It's Heidi Reid: I'm Avis Poling: clunky. Heidi Reid: slightly gutted that we couldn't get plastic and rubber, I think that would have been nice. Sandra Sexton: Yeah, yeah. Heidi Reid: Ah well, maybe from now on real reaction Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: should give us more money. Avis Poling: Oh, Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Avis Poling: I did learn something new, Play-Doh is useful. Heidi Reid: Play-Doh Avis Poling: No Heidi Reid: s Avis Poling: it is it is. It is useful and in Sandra Sexton: Huh. Avis Poling: in in in in in in um Sandra Sexton: Huh. Avis Poling: conceptualizing, in being creative. Heidi Reid: Really? Avis Poling: 'Cause like you say, it's something you can put your hands on and feel and touch Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: and get a sense for. Like we were playing with the Play-Doh and the ideas came with the Play-Doh Heidi Reid: Did they? Avis Poling: rather than with everything else. You might wanna write that Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: down. It's just, Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: I'm just fiddling with the Play-Doh, and I'm going yeah Heidi Reid: Play-Doh. Avis Poling: yeah it's kinda Sandra Sexton: No, Avis Poling: cool. Sandra Sexton: it's true, yeah. Jean Puga: Guess I'd forgot how good s Play-Doh smells. Sandra Sexton: Hmm. Heidi Reid: Yeah, it smells funny doesn't it. Sandra Sexton: And Heidi Reid: Um Sandra Sexton: some Play-Dohs are actually I think edible aren't they? Avis Poling: No, Heidi Reid: Yeah Avis Poling: all Heidi Reid: like Avis Poling: Play-Doh Heidi Reid: the stuff Avis Poling: is Heidi Reid: for Jean Puga: I Avis Poling: edible. Jean Puga: think they're all non-toxic Heidi Reid: I think Jean Puga: 'cause Heidi Reid: it has Jean Puga: it's aimed Heidi Reid: to Jean Puga: for like Heidi Reid: be, yeah. Jean Puga: two-year-olds. Avis Poling: It's just wheat, it's the stuff that your mom could make with preservatives and uh Sandra Sexton: Wow, Heidi Reid: Yeah Sandra Sexton: hmm. Heidi Reid: um so to wha what are your summarising words about Play-Doh? Avis Poling: It's helpful to the creative Sandra Sexton: Huh. Avis Poling: process. Um Heidi Reid: Okay. Avis Poling: it engages all your senses not just your sight, but your sense Sandra Sexton: Yep. Avis Poling: of feel your sense of touch. And Sandra Sexton: Taste. Avis Poling: it helps you to understand dimension as well. I think that Heidi Reid: Yeah. Avis Poling: that's very helpful because Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: it it starts to pop up, whereas on a piece of paper, on a computer, on Heidi Reid: Yeah. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Avis Poling: a board, Sandra Sexton: yep. Avis Poling: um Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Avis Poling: even with a three D_ graphic thing it still, it requires Jean Puga: Yeah Avis Poling: a Jean Puga: it's not Avis Poling: lot Jean Puga: very Avis Poling: of Sandra Sexton: Yeah. Jean Puga: tangible. Avis Poling: yeah Heidi Reid: Mm-hmm. Avis Poling: tangible, Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm, Avis Poling: that's a nice Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm, Avis Poling: word. Sandra Sexton: mm-hmm. Avis Poling: It becomes tangible. Sandra Sexton: Mm-hmm. Heidi Reid: Tangible. Okay uh Mm. I don't know if there's anything else Avis Poling: Nope. Heidi Reid: we needed to discuss. That that's about it really. Just sit still I guess for a little while. Sandra Sexton: Do we retreat to our, to continue our Avis Poling: I think we Heidi Reid: Um Avis Poling: could probably do Sandra Sexton: r Avis Poling: it here Sandra Sexton: reporting Avis Poling: as long as we Sandra Sexton: or Avis Poling: don't Sandra Sexton: what i Heidi Reid: Well Avis Poling: collaborate. Heidi Reid: I dunno. Um I'm sure the little uh the little thing'll pop up any minute now. Avis Poling: Can we turn off the microphones? Heidi Reid: Yeah, yeah if the meeting's over then yeah I guess so.

Heidi Reid recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting and two team members presented their prototype and discussed the features the prototype contained. The team then looked at the production costs of the remote and had to decide which features to retain or lose in order to maintain the target cost. In maintaining the target cost, the team had to lose a number of features which they originally wanted, such as a kinetic battery, an LCD display, and various color options. The team then evaluated the prototype on the basis of its appearance, technological innovation, and spongy quality. The prototype did fairly well in the evaluation. The team then conducted an evaluation of the project process. The team felt that their creativity was hindered by the project budget and their inability to discuss the project outside of their meetings and that the structure of the task did not foster teamwork.

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Elizabeth Zak: Okay, well I think we're ready to begin Right. my name's Adam Duguid, we're here because of real reaction, um, we have in the group Alisha Tratar: Oh, Ebenezer Ademesoye. Would you Alisha Tratar to that S Elizabeth Zak: Um, yeah, go for it mate. Alisha Tratar: Um, N_E_Z_ Elizabeth Zak: N_ E_ Z_. Alisha Tratar: E_R_. Elizabeth Zak: Ebenezer. And your role is? Alisha Tratar: I'm Alisha Tratar. Elizabeth Zak: You're Alisha Tratar, okay. Next we have? Ruby Richardson: Tarik Rahman. T_A_R_I_K_. Elizabeth Zak: T_ R_ I_ K_. And your role in this is? Ruby Richardson: Industrial Designer. Elizabeth Zak: Industrial Designer. And, lastly we have? Constance Brown: Uh, Dave Cochrane. Elizabeth Zak: And you're going to be the User Interface, Constance Brown: User Elizabeth Zak: is Constance Brown: Interface Elizabeth Zak: it? Constance Brown: Defin Elizabeth Zak: Designer. Okay. Constance Brown: yes. Elizabeth Zak: Right. This is the agenda for today's meeting. As you can see, w opening, acquaintance, tool training, project plan discussion, and closing. Um, we already got n through opening, and partially through acquaintance. So, the reason we're here, we're gonna design a new remote control, as you probably all know. The very broad overview is original, trendy, and user-friendly. Course, we'll have to go into a bit more um detail than that, but uh personally I think that the original is gonna be a very key aspect to this design. Um, there's a lot of remote controls out there anyway, so we're gonna need something that's really gonna set it apart. This is how today seems to be going to work. We're gonna have the three kay phases, as you've probably already been told, the functional, architectural, and the detailed design. Um First one's gonna be covering the user requirement spec, technical functions, working design. Second seems to be conceptual components, properties, materials, and the last one is a detailed analysis of our design so far. Of course, you've all got the similar emails, I believe, right. What can I say? Ebenezer, you wanna have a you wanna draw your favourite animal? Alisha Tratar: Sure. Whiteboard. 'Kay. S okay. I will make this quick, since we don't have much time. Um. Alisha Tratar: 'Kay, so it's not the best picture in the world. Here we have an elephant. First point, begins with an E_, same like Ebenezer. Also, elephants have a very good memory, much like myself, and I can't remember but I think I used to have a pet elephant. So elephants are big, strong and gentle, and they have great memories, and they begin with the letter E_, just like Ebenezer. Elizabeth Zak: Brilliantly done. Alisha Tratar: Thank Elizabeth Zak: Thank Alisha Tratar: you. Elizabeth Zak: you. Tarik, would you like to have a shot at a bit of artistry? Alisha Tratar: Oh. Elizabeth Zak: Oh, um, Alisha Tratar: Oh Elizabeth Zak: you Ruby Richardson: Do Elizabeth Zak: can Ruby Richardson: we take Elizabeth Zak: clip Ruby Richardson: them Elizabeth Zak: them Ruby Richardson: off? Elizabeth Zak: to your belt. Alisha Tratar: oh I think you Ruby Richardson: Oh right, Alisha Tratar: ga Ruby Richardson: okay. Elizabeth Zak: You should also l um Alisha Tratar: The Elizabeth Zak: have your the Alisha Tratar: little Elizabeth Zak: lapel mic on as well. Ruby Richardson: Ah-ha. Alisha Tratar: The the Oh that's good, we can clip them on. Okay. Yeah, there Ruby Richardson: Now where do I put the Alisha Tratar: Just um somewhere Elizabeth Zak: Yep, the, it's just across there, that's it. Yep. Ruby Richardson: Is this supposed to be clipped as well? Alisha Tratar: I think so. Elizabeth Zak: Yeah. It'll follow you if you Alisha Tratar: Yeah. There you go. Elizabeth Zak: You can probably just stick it in your pocket for now, I wouldn't worry too much. Should have good range. Ruby Richardson: Uh, destroying your elephant here. Ruby Richardson: Uh, here we have a tiger. Uh I've always loved tigers. They're just they're big, they're biggest cats, uh I did a project on cats in the wild when I was a kid, just 'cause it was looks the best, the stripes, orange. My dad used to talk about he's from Bangladesh so he used to tell Alisha Tratar all about them when he was when I was a kid. And uh they're just the most feared of of uh animals in the wild. So uh that's why I like them. Didn't say an anything about Alisha Tratar really but Elizabeth Zak: Excellent, thank you very much. Dave, if you'd like to uh have a dash. Constance Brown: Um Constance Brown: Um, the monkey, um. The one f uh in fact this is a somewhat oblique reference in fact to uh well my I have a three uh three y year old daughter who h who who who is affectionately known as Miss Monkey. Um, monkeys have attitude. Which I think is a good thing. evolution they and other primates are terribly interesting. Um, so I like monkeys. And and th th th th thi thi this one seems to have perhaps more attitude than most. Elizabeth Zak: Cheers. Elizabeth Zak: Hardly what I'd call the best drawing in the world but it'll do for now. Also not quite as feared as your average tiger, but uh cats are one of my favourite animals, they're very independent, they're snotty as hell at the best of times, and uh, what can you say, you got to love those qualities in an animal. Right. I think we've all managed to master the whiteboard there by looks of it, so, on to it. Project finance. As you can see, twelve point five Euros per unit. That's not a terrible lot as far as I'm aware, and we're hoping to sell them for twenty five. If we're aiming for fifty million Euros we're gonna have to be selling an awful lot of them. Alisha Tratar: Oh, that was profiting, that was an amount, so that's the amount made, Elizabeth Zak: Yep. Alisha Tratar: okay. Elizabeth Zak: Well, fifty million, and if you're making twelve point five Euros on each one, then, Alisha Tratar: Yeah. Elizabeth Zak: awful lot need to be sold. Okay. Now we better actually just get on with the uh the meat of the project. So I'm gonna guess that we've all used remote controls. Any ideas of where you think a new remote control could go into this market? Constance Brown: Well, one thing I'm aware of is, th there uh um at the sort of v very high price end of the market there's there's a em emerging market for sort of touch screen L_C_D_ remotes that can be uh programmed in m much more sophisticated ways than sort of conventional models, so you get the sort of you get um you you can redesign the interface to your own needs, you can programme in macros, and you get a much greater degree um um I mean you get in these sort of three in one, five in one, whatevers, but you can get integration between the different uh the the the diff the different things that it's designed to control, to a much greater extent, and you can have one uh you know one macro to turn the uh you know turn the T_V_ to the right channel, get the uh re uh rewind the tape in the V_C_R_ and get it to play once it's rewound, for instance. Elizabeth Zak: Okay. Constance Brown: Um b it occurs to Alisha Tratar there might be a niche for uh for a remote that aimed towards some of that sort of functionality but using a just conventional push button design. And therefore putting it into a um well much lower price bracket. Elizabeth Zak: Okay, yeah, tha that's true, with the price range we're looking at, going for a touch screen would probably be possibly Constance Brown: Absolutely Elizabeth Zak: out of Constance Brown: prohibitive, Elizabeth Zak: our yeah. Constance Brown: yeah. Alisha Tratar: Oh. Elizabeth Zak: But you think uh again something to control multiple units in uh a simple fashion. Constance Brown: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't like to say you g I mean you get ones that you can switch between multiple units, but something that could um operate between multiple units in a more integrated fashion. Some and ideally something into which it would have some at least limited facility for um running macros. Elizabeth Zak: Would the the idea something along the lines of, one on button would turn on say the video recorder, the T_V_, maybe the sound system as well, all in one go, is that Constance Brown: For Elizabeth Zak: kind Constance Brown: instance, Elizabeth Zak: of Constance Brown: um let's say oh oh um, or um you know you pr uh you press uh say the play button for the D_V_D_ player and it turns the T_V_ on and onto the right channel as well, um Elizabeth Zak: Okay, that Alisha Tratar: 'Kay Elizabeth Zak: sounds like a a good strong idea. Um Any takes on this? Alisha Tratar: Well um I've noticed that uh gaming c is becoming quite popular with television, um when I was younger we used to e play games using our cable, using the cable subscribed the cable providers, Constance Brown: Mm-hmm. Alisha Tratar: but our remote controls would get worn out really easily, and the remote control was not a great kind of keyboar, um keypad, for playing games. So Elizabeth Zak: Okay. Alisha Tratar: perhaps one that was more um specialised for game playing or interactive television. They they've recently brought out this new remote control, for people to set their favourite channels, or um to record things. Instead of people entering in what time things start, you simply stri slide a bar to say what time it begins, and slide Elizabeth Zak: Okay. Alisha Tratar: another bar to say what time it ends, you know that's Elizabeth Zak: Yeah I've heard I've seen the Ruby Richardson: Mm. Elizabeth Zak: bar-code design before, yeah. Constance Brown: Mm-hmm. Alisha Tratar: Yeah, it's it's taken out the Y you don't have to be uh really clever to use a remote control. I think for gaming, you know you want you want some big buttons for up, down, left and right, shoot. Uh, you wanna be able to change angles in interactive television, so you need buttons to change the television angle, the camera angles and stuff like that. Elizabeth Zak: Okay, Ruby Richardson: 'Kay. Elizabeth Zak: well we're beginning to run out of time now, so, Alisha Tratar: Yeah. Elizabeth Zak: we've got a couple of ideas, we can we'll have to work fast, um, alright as you can see we've got thirty minutes until the next meeting, so we'll have to try and decide on some of the basic functionality, um, how the user interface might work, that'll be a key aspect especially if the idea of um some kind of macros facility because you have to program it, you have to have a lot of response back, or at least some kind. Constance Brown: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Zak: Um And we're gonna maybe n try and have to figure out Alisha Tratar: What the user wants Elizabeth Zak: what Alisha Tratar: uh. Elizabeth Zak: the user wants, yes. Alisha Tratar: Okay. Elizabeth Zak: Um, right. Has anybody got anything they'd like to add at this stage, anything they think that might have been missed so far? Ruby Richardson: Well when you're talking about gaming and stuff, do you think they should have some sort of stick on it, rather than Alisha Tratar: Oh. Ruby Richardson: buttons? Alisha Tratar: Okay, Ruby Richardson: Like uh control pads, you know of games, but Alisha Tratar: Mm-hmm. Ruby Richardson: or is that a bit ridiculous? Elizabeth Zak: I I don't see why not, almost everybody is probably used to a console by now, and all of them incorporate small keypads on them, even the mobile phones these days are beginning to use them as well, so Ruby Richardson: Yeah. Elizabeth Zak: it's probably an interface that most people are used to. Um and that could allow n easy navigation, used as a joystick as well. Constance Brown: Mm-hmm. The other key feature that uh that would be a good idea built into it is t is is to make something you know fairly sort of ergonomic, something that just fits fits as comfortably as possible into the hand. But of course, uh al al also allows for the possibility of a more sort of slightly unconventional or attractive uh sha Elizabeth Zak: Okay. Constance Brown: shape for it overall, Elizabeth Zak: So, small, Constance Brown: A Elizabeth Zak: stylish, Constance Brown: curve, mm-hmm. Elizabeth Zak: and something that's Constance Brown: Something Elizabeth Zak: just Constance Brown: sort Elizabeth Zak: a little Constance Brown: of Elizabeth Zak: different. Constance Brown: sort of sl slightly sort of biomorphic in form, uh which it would need to be to sort of conform to the shape of the hand more efficiently anyway. Elizabeth Zak: Okay. That's definitely something that we should be able to do quite easily. I would I would have hoped so anyway. Um, right. I'd say we finish this one up, we get started, I'll get in, I'll write up what we've um kind of quickly done, and I'll get that out to everybody. Alisha Tratar: 'Kay. Elizabeth Zak: Yeah? Alisha Tratar: So. Elizabeth Zak: Okay. Um, as far as I'm aware we leave the microphones here, um unless we get told otherwise, and just take the laptops with us.

The team members introduced themselves to each other by name and by their roles in the project. Elizabeth Zak introduced the upcoming project to the team and then the team members participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animal and discussed why they liked the animal. Elizabeth Zak discussed the project finances and selling prices. The team then discussed various features to consider in producing the remote such as gaming options, an LCD screen, and combining functionality so as to control multiple devices.

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Jennifer Ward: Hmm hmm hmm. Marie Wilmoth: Are we we're not allowed to dim the lights so people can see that a bit better? Jennifer Ward: Yeah. Marie Wilmoth: Okay, that's fine. Am I supposed to be standing up there? Clara Rothstein: So Marie Wilmoth: Okay. Clara Rothstein: we've got both of these clipped on? She gonna answer Clara Rothstein Marie Wilmoth: Yeah, Clara Rothstein: or not? Marie Wilmoth: I've got Clara Rothstein: Right, both of them, okay. Marie Wilmoth: Yes. Clara Rothstein: God. Jesus, it's gonna fall off. Jennifer Ward: Okay Yep yep, Okay. Marie Wilmoth: Okay. Jennifer Ward: Tu tu tu tu Marie Wilmoth: Hello everybody. Jennifer Ward: Hi, good morning. Marie Wilmoth: Um I'm Sarah, Marie Wilmoth and this is our first meeting, surprisingly enough. Okay, this is our agenda, um we will do some stuff, get to know each other a bit better to feel more comfortable with each other. Um then we'll go do tool training, talk about the project plan, discuss our own ideas and everything um and we've got twenty five minutes to do that, as far as I can understand. Now, we're developing a remote control which you probably already know. Um, we want it to be original, something that's uh people haven't thought of, that's not out in the shops, um, trendy, appealing to a wide market, but you know, not a hunk of metal, and user-friendly, grannies to kids, maybe even pooches should be able to use it. Okay, um, first is the functional design, um this is where we all go off and do our individual work, um what needs need to be fulfilled by the product, um what effects the product has to have and how it's actually going to do that. Um, conceptual design, what we're thinking, how it's gonna go and then the detailed design, how we're actually gonna put it into practice and make it work. Jennifer Ward: 'Kay. Marie Wilmoth: Okay, right. We're gonna practice with the pens and draw our favourite animal on the white board, I'll go first, and um sum up the characteristics of that animal. So Jennifer Ward: Oops. Marie Wilmoth: Okay, I'll leave space for everyone else. Um Marie Wilmoth: What's missing? Marie Wilmoth: We're running out of blue. Okay. I'm not gonna ask you to guess, I'm going to tell you that's supposed to be a tiger. Jennifer Ward: Mm. Marie Wilmoth: And I see them Jennifer Ward: Oh Marie Wilmoth: as Jennifer Ward: sorry. Marie Wilmoth: majestic, Jennifer Ward: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: and independent, and proud. Now, who would like to go next? Jennifer Ward: Yeah, Clara Rothstein. Marie Wilmoth: 'Kay. Jennifer Ward: Cat. Where did this come from? Marie Wilmoth: Is that your lapel then? Jennifer Ward: Uh, Marie Wilmoth: There you go. Jennifer Ward: yep. Thank you. Uh, maybe you can guess what I'm trying to make? Clara Rothstein: A kind of dog? Jennifer Ward: Yep. It's actually sitting, so Clara Rothstein: Sorry? Lois Bracken: It's sitting Jennifer Ward: it's sitting, Lois Bracken: down. Jennifer Ward: it's not standing. Clara Rothstein: Uh. Jennifer Ward: Okay, I see it as one thing it's very supportive. It's your best friend your you can talk to a dog, it can be your best friend, it doesn't discriminate between you, based on what you are. Second it's loyal and third thing it's got intuition. dogs can som sometimes can make out between a thief and a Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Ward: person so basically these are the three unique features I think belong to a dog. Marie Wilmoth: Okay, thank you. Jennifer Ward: Thank you. Lois Bracken: Yeah I'll Jennifer Ward: Okay. Lois Bracken: have a go. Jennifer Ward: Sorry. Clara Rothstein: Please, please Lois Bracken: Thanks. Clara Rothstein: leave Clara Rothstein a space at the bottom, I'm little, Lois Bracken: Alright, Clara Rothstein: you can get to Lois Bracken: okay. Clara Rothstein: the top, with standing on a chair. Lois Bracken: Well since you guys have chosen the ones I wanted to do, I'll have Marie Wilmoth: Okay. Lois Bracken: to have to Jennifer Ward: Does Lois Bracken: go Jennifer Ward: it Lois Bracken: for Jennifer Ward: look Lois Bracken: something Jennifer Ward: like a dog Lois Bracken: a bit Jennifer Ward: actually? Lois Bracken: random. And also, my drawing skill isn't that great Marie Wilmoth: Well, Lois Bracken: so, Marie Wilmoth: as you can see, the quality Lois Bracken: yeah. Jennifer Ward: Mm. Marie Wilmoth: of the work today is um Clara Rothstein: I think it's outstandingly good. Lois Bracken: Okay, now I'm gonna have to change what is was originally gonna be because that looks like a beak now, so. Clara Rothstein: Crocodile? Marie Wilmoth: Gonna be Lois Bracken: Yeah, Marie Wilmoth: a Lois Bracken: it Marie Wilmoth: bird. Lois Bracken: can be a crocodile, it can be Marie Wilmoth: Is Lois Bracken: a Marie Wilmoth: it Lois Bracken: crocodile. Marie Wilmoth: gonna be it's Lois Bracken: an Marie Wilmoth: gonna Lois Bracken: at Marie Wilmoth: be Lois Bracken: first Marie Wilmoth: a bird. Lois Bracken: firstly it was an attempt at a T_ Rex and then it sort Clara Rothstein: O Lois Bracken: of changed into a pelican but it can be a crocodile now actually. Marie Wilmoth: That's lovely. Lois Bracken: Yeah Clara Rothstein: Beauti Lois Bracken: and Clara Rothstein: that's Lois Bracken: uh I'll have to think on the spot of uh things that it is. Um uh scary, uh strong, yeah that's about it I think. Marie Wilmoth: Okay it's fine. Clara Rothstein: Okay. Um, I'm very impressed your artistic skills, Lois Bracken: Uh Clara Rothstein: mine's are dreadful. Lois Bracken: uh Clara Rothstein: Oops this is now coming apart, let Clara Rothstein just put the top in. Lois Bracken: Wo Clara Rothstein: I hope that clicks in, I'll just I'll hold it on, okay. Oops, oh dear, what happened there? Marie Wilmoth: Technical help. Clara Rothstein: Hopefully Lois Bracken: Hmm. Clara Rothstein: that'll stay on, two-handed version. Lois Bracken: Okay. Clara Rothstein: Okay, uh Again this is off the top of my head, I was gonna do a big Lois Bracken: Uh Clara Rothstein: cat too, um. Oh Marie Wilmoth: Hmm. Clara Rothstein: dear, it doesn't look what like what I want it to be. Lois Bracken: S Clara Rothstein: Uh. Lois Bracken: Uh Clara Rothstein: It's not a vampire bat honestly. Marie Wilmoth: Okay, yeah. Clara Rothstein: Uh and somewhere there's a body behind. Lois Bracken: Okay, Clara Rothstein: That's Lois Bracken: some Clara Rothstein: my dreadful Lois Bracken: sort of Clara Rothstein: that's the worst yet, Lois Bracken: bird. Clara Rothstein: that's it's meant to be an eagle Marie Wilmoth: A seagu Lois Bracken: Ah Jennifer Ward: Eagle, Marie Wilmoth: right, Lois Bracken: eagle, Jennifer Ward: okay. Lois Bracken: right Marie Wilmoth: not Clara Rothstein: you Lois Bracken: okay. Clara Rothstein: can Marie Wilmoth: a seagull. Clara Rothstein: tell it's a flying animal could have been a seagull, I never thought of a seagull. An eagle, um again I'm thinking on my feet goodness. I suppose they're all so independent, I'd put that one down again. Da dum um. Lois Bracken: They're good at golf. Clara Rothstein: Indepen independent, right, did you say they're good at golf? Lois Bracken: Yeah, Clara Rothstein: Are they? Lois Bracken: no yeah, Marie Wilmoth: Eagle. Clara Rothstein: Oh. Lois Bracken: an eagle. Clara Rothstein: Oh right, okay, I'm not good at golf. I'd say they're quite free-spirited, flying around everywhere, doing their own thing. And uh, birds of prey aren't they, oh dear, Marie Wilmoth: Mm-hmm. Clara Rothstein: intrepid. I'll put that, intrepid. There we go, Marie Wilmoth: That's Clara Rothstein: hope Marie Wilmoth: lovely. Clara Rothstein: that pen's gonna be okay. Whoops. Marie Wilmoth: Okay. That was fun, right. Um finance-wise, we've got a selling price at twenty five Euros, which I don't actually know what that is in Pounds, at all. Any ideas? Lois Bracken: It's about Clara Rothstein: Seventeen. Lois Bracken: mm, Jennifer Ward: One point four Lois Bracken: mm yeah. Jennifer Ward: or something like that. One point four Euro would make a Pound or something Lois Bracken: Yeah, Jennifer Ward: like that. Lois Bracken: yeah, something like that, so Jennifer Ward: Yeah. Lois Bracken: that Marie Wilmoth: D Lois Bracken: yeah about seventeen, Marie Wilmoth: fifteen? Clara Rothstein: Seventeen Marie Wilmoth: Seventeen. Lois Bracken: seventeen Clara Rothstein: Pounds. Lois Bracken: Pounds, Marie Wilmoth: Okay, Lois Bracken: something like that. Marie Wilmoth: that's expensive. Clara Rothstein: Should we be making notes of this? We can just refer to this later can't Lois Bracken: But Marie Wilmoth: I Clara Rothstein: we? Marie Wilmoth: think so, Clara Rothstein: Yeah, Marie Wilmoth: I think Clara Rothstein: okay. Marie Wilmoth: so, I'll be able to um pull it up, or Clara Rothstein: Okay. Marie Wilmoth: I could put it Lois Bracken: Havi Marie Wilmoth: in the shared folder or Lois Bracken: having Marie Wilmoth: something. Lois Bracken: said that though, if you wanna get one of those the the ones on the market at the moment they're s they're about twenty pounds anyway. So, Clara Rothstein: Right. Marie Wilmoth: Really? Lois Bracken: it'd still be yeah, we had to Clara Rothstein: So Lois Bracken: buy one. Marie Wilmoth: Mm. Clara Rothstein: so Marie Wilmoth: I Clara Rothstein: I suppose Marie Wilmoth: think Clara Rothstein: later it depends if we want to undercut the price, we d or or is it going to make our product look a cheapie-cheapie option? Marie Wilmoth: Yeah, Lois Bracken: Hmm. Marie Wilmoth: um production cost's at twelve fifty, so Jennifer Ward: Okay, pretty huge margin. Marie Wilmoth: half of the selling price is Lois Bracken: Yeah. Marie Wilmoth: taken Clara Rothstein: Mm. Marie Wilmoth: up by building it. Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: Um, and profit aim is fifty million Euros, which is uh Clara Rothstein: In our first year? Marie Wilmoth: Yi yes, um yeah, I presume so. Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Ward: So Marie Wilmoth: Um Jennifer Ward: then Clara Rothstein: You've got market range international and you did say earlier it's got to be a um accessible and usable by sort of all age groups Marie Wilmoth: Mm-hmm. Clara Rothstein: just t we're not focusing on business market, any particular thing, it's Marie Wilmoth: No, Clara Rothstein: everyone user-friendly Marie Wilmoth: yeah. Clara Rothstein: to everyone. Okay. Big Marie Wilmoth: So Clara Rothstein: target group. Marie Wilmoth: yes, yes, I don't think we have to I don't think it's a case of worrying about different languages and things like that, Clara Rothstein: No. Marie Wilmoth: um making that a key point, just that it's going to be in the international market like Clara Rothstein: Mm. Marie Wilmoth: Australia, America, things like that. Okay. What are your experiences with remote controls? I mean I've got we got um we had three videos, a T_V_ and a sort of amp thing all Jennifer Ward: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: set up Lois Bracken: Yeah. Marie Wilmoth: so we got one of the universal remote controls, Clara Rothstein: Alright. Lois Bracken: Yeah. Jennifer Ward: Yeah, Marie Wilmoth: um Jennifer Ward: that c Marie Wilmoth: that you programme each of your things into, but that kept losing the signals so we'd have to re-programme it every now and again. I think it was quite a cheapie as well, Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Lois Bracken: Yeah Marie Wilmoth: so Lois Bracken: uh. Marie Wilmoth: that might have had something to do with it, but that was quite good, the fact that you could Lois Bracken: Use all the ones Marie Wilmoth: You didn't Lois Bracken: at the same Marie Wilmoth: have Lois Bracken: time. Marie Wilmoth: six remote controls sitting Clara Rothstein: Right. Marie Wilmoth: in front of Jennifer Ward: Okay, Marie Wilmoth: you. Jennifer Ward: you wanna integrate everything into one like Lois Bracken: Yeah, Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Ward: Okay. Lois Bracken: 'cause Clara Rothstein: My Lois Bracken: you Clara Rothstein: experience has only been being given the remote control with the object I buy, not doing any tampering with it and programming, using it to programme T_V_ and uh uh videos and things. But basically on, off, volume up and down, channel one, two, th that basic functions, Marie Wilmoth: Mm. Clara Rothstein: I don't think I could go any further with it than that, so, I suppose it's got to be something usable by someone like Clara Rothstein as well. Marie Wilmoth: Yeah, the main that's the main stuff anyway, Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: I mean and you don't want to I hate I hate looking at a control and seeing a million tiny little buttons with tiny little words Clara Rothstein: Mm. Marie Wilmoth: saying what they all do and just Lois Bracken: Yeah. Marie Wilmoth: sitting there searching for the teletext Clara Rothstein: Mm. Marie Wilmoth: button or Clara Rothstein: And Marie Wilmoth: something Clara Rothstein: symbols Marie Wilmoth: like that. Clara Rothstein: that you don't necessarily Marie Wilmoth: Yeah. Clara Rothstein: understand, symbols you're meant to understand that you don't. Jennifer Ward: So simplification Marie Wilmoth: Um. Jennifer Ward: of symbols you could think Marie Wilmoth: When Jennifer Ward: of. Marie Wilmoth: they're when you've got the main things on the front of it and a section opens up or something to the other functions where you can do sound or options Clara Rothstein: Oh yeah. Marie Wilmoth: kind of recording, things like that inside it. Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: 'Cause it doesn't make when you pick it up it doesn't make it really complicated to Clara Rothstein: Mm. Marie Wilmoth: look at, it's obvious Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: what Lois Bracken: Mm. Marie Wilmoth: you're doing, um. Clara Rothstein: Actually that just raises a point, I wonder what our design people think, but you know on a mobile phone, Jennifer Ward: Mm-hmm. Clara Rothstein: you can press a key and it gives you a menu, it's Jennifer Ward: Menu, Clara Rothstein: got a menu Jennifer Ward: alright. Clara Rothstein: display, I wonder if incorporating that into the design of a remote control might be useful, Lois Bracken: Yeah. Clara Rothstein: so you've got a little Jennifer Ward: Uh Clara Rothstein: L_C_D_ Jennifer Ward: uh Clara Rothstein: display. Jennifer Ward: Right, I was thinking on the same lines you, instead of having too many b buttons and make it complicated for the user, may h maybe have an L_C_D_ di display or something like that, like a mobile, Clara Rothstein: With menus, Jennifer Ward: yeah and with Clara Rothstein: yeah, Jennifer Ward: menus. Clara Rothstein: yeah. Jennifer Ward: And if it's s somewhat similar to what you have on mobile phone, people might find it easier to browse and navigate also Clara Rothstein: Yeah. Jennifer Ward: maybe. Marie Wilmoth: What about the older generation? What about granny and grandads? Um, Jennifer Ward: You mean to save it lesser Marie Wilmoth: my grandad Jennifer Ward: number. Marie Wilmoth: can answer his mobile phone, but Lois Bracken: Yeah. Marie Wilmoth: he couldn't even dream Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: of texting or something Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: like that. Clara Rothstein: Can he programme his remote control or is it basic Jennifer Ward: Right. Clara Rothstein: with that too? Marie Wilmoth: I don't think they tape things, Lois Bracken: Yeah, Marie Wilmoth: I Clara Rothstein: Right. Marie Wilmoth: don't think Lois Bracken: my Marie Wilmoth: they Lois Bracken: grandad's Marie Wilmoth: use Lois Bracken: actually better than Clara Rothstein at using teletext, so. Clara Rothstein: Right. So that's a problem regardless of of any design modifications you you come up with, Lois Bracken: Yeah. Clara Rothstein: that's gonna be a problem anyway with the older generation Marie Wilmoth: Mm, yeah, Clara Rothstein: perhaps, Marie Wilmoth: the Clara Rothstein: and Marie Wilmoth: age Clara Rothstein: that's another Marie Wilmoth: gap. Clara Rothstein: issue Lois Bracken: Yeah, Clara Rothstein: how we tackle that. Lois Bracken: what it just needs to be as long as it's sort of self-intuitive and you can can work out what everything's doing, 'cause I mean, menus on sort of new phones now they've sort of got all these pictures and stuff which makes it fairly obvious what you're trying to do. Marie Wilmoth: Mm. Jennifer Ward: Mm-hmm. Lois Bracken: But Marie Wilmoth: I Lois Bracken: I Marie Wilmoth: d Lois Bracken: don't know how Marie Wilmoth: I don't like the, you know the new phones that have kind of got a Windows-based Lois Bracken: Oh yeah. Marie Wilmoth: running system. Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: I find it really confusing, I kept getting lost in the phone, I di I've not got a new one but uh my Clara Rothstein: Right. Marie Wilmoth: friend got a new one and I was trying to do things with it and I just kept getting lost, but that's just Clara Rothstein. Lois Bracken: Yeah, I don't I don't know how for twenty fi, or twelve Euros fifty how much of a excellent screen you could get, Marie Wilmoth: Yeah. Lois Bracken: you'd you'd have to sort of keep Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Lois Bracken: it down to a black and white L_C_D_ thing anyway, Clara Rothstein: Is Lois Bracken: I'd Clara Rothstein: it possible Lois Bracken: assume. Clara Rothstein: that that for the older generation you could have like an extra button that you press for large print like you do in large print books? Jennifer Ward: Okay. Clara Rothstein: Obviously Marie Wilmoth: Teletext Clara Rothstein: it displays Marie Wilmoth: has got that Clara Rothstein: less Marie Wilmoth: option Clara Rothstein: on Marie Wilmoth: as Clara Rothstein: the Marie Wilmoth: well. Clara Rothstein: screen, it displays less on the screen but as long as they can read it that's the main thing. Marie Wilmoth: Yeah. Or what about kind of a dual function? In that you've got the basic buttons just for your play, volume, programme things Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: and also and then a menu to go into with obvious pictures, obvious symbols and Clara Rothstein: Yeah. Marie Wilmoth: that's where you control Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Marie Wilmoth: recording and things like that. Clara Rothstein: Mm. The other thing is, just ch chucking into mobile phone f design features again, it could have a flip top remote control so that when you flip over the top, your screen is you can have a bigger screen in Marie Wilmoth: Mm-hmm. Clara Rothstein: the Jennifer Ward: Mm, okay. Clara Rothstein: the flip over. Marie Wilmoth: I think Jennifer Ward: S Marie Wilmoth: that's a cost thing, Lois Bracken: Y Marie Wilmoth: I don't Jennifer Ward: It Marie Wilmoth: I Clara Rothstein: Yeah? Jennifer Ward: might Marie Wilmoth: don't know how much we're gonna know about Jennifer Ward: it might save a b bit of space, it's i instead Clara Rothstein: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Ward: of looking bulky, it might look Marie Wilmoth: Yes, Jennifer Ward: small. Marie Wilmoth: no Clara Rothstein: Yeah, Marie Wilmoth: that's important. Lois Bracken: Yeah. Jennifer Ward: But it might have Clara Rothstein: like Jennifer Ward: its Clara Rothstein: smaller. Jennifer Ward: cost implications. Marie Wilmoth: Okay. Clara Rothstein: And there's no reason we need to make it look as fashionable and stylish as a mobile phone, it can still be lightweight plastic, Marie Wilmoth: Mm. Clara Rothstein: you know? Jennifer Ward: Right. Clara Rothstein: Something that's easily moulded and produced. Marie Wilmoth: Yeah. Clara Rothstein: Sorry I'm treading on your territory guys. Lois Bracken: No uh uh Marie Wilmoth: Um, right, okay we've got half an hour before the next meeting, so we're all gonna go off and do our individual things. Um I think that's probably about it and then we'll come back and liaise again Lois Bracken: Yeah. Marie Wilmoth: and I get to do another fantastic PowerPoint presentation. Lois Bracken: Just just a quick thing about Marie Wilmoth: Sure. Lois Bracken: the um about what you're saying about the uh does does it need to be fashionable? The sort of I I had a quick look at the company website and it's like the the uh we put the fashion into electronics, Clara Rothstein: Ah Lois Bracken: so Clara Rothstein: right. Lois Bracken: I think Jennifer Ward: Okay. Marie Wilmoth: Okay. Lois Bracken: think the Clara Rothstein: Okay. Lois Bracken: whole design thing might be qui Clara Rothstein: Sure Lois Bracken: I mean Clara Rothstein: b Lois Bracken: you don't you Clara Rothstein: y yeah. Lois Bracken: you can still have plastic and it'd look quite Clara Rothstein: But Lois Bracken: good but Clara Rothstein: yeah, I mean it doesn't have to be that, you know th that was my main point, Lois Bracken: Yeah. Clara Rothstein: we don't have to use metal, I don't know if using Marie Wilmoth: Mm. Clara Rothstein: plastic does make it cheaper, I presume it would. Lois Bracken: Yeah. Clara Rothstein: Yeah, Marie Wilmoth: I would Lois Bracken: Yeah. Marie Wilmoth: it Clara Rothstein: yeah, Marie Wilmoth: would probably. Clara Rothstein: yeah. Marie Wilmoth: I mean there's Sky remote controls and everything. They're kind of moulded and look a bit different, and the Telewest remote controls are silver plastic, which Clara Rothstein: Right. Marie Wilmoth: looks a bit smarter, so yeah I guess that's stuff we can think Clara Rothstein: Okay. Marie Wilmoth: about. Okay, so let's break it up there. Clara Rothstein: 'Kay. Marie Wilmoth: Okay? Lois Bracken: Okay. Marie Wilmoth: So, see you in half an hour. Clara Rothstein: back to our room? Marie Wilmoth: I think Jennifer Ward: Mm, Marie Wilmoth: so, Jennifer Ward: yeah. Clara Rothstein: Yep? Marie Wilmoth: yeah.

Marie Wilmoth gave an introduction to the goal of the project, to create a trendy yet user-friendly remote. She presented a long-range agenda for the whole project. The group introduced themselves to each other and practiced with the meeting room tools by drawing on the board. Marie Wilmoth presented the project budget, the projected price point, and the projected profit aim for the project. Then the group began a discussion about their own experiences with remote controls to generate initial design ideas for making the product user-friendly. They discussed grouping features into a menu and adding an LCD display. They also discussed the look of various materials that may be used in the design, in keeping with the company's goal to create fashionable electronics.

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Susan Carroll: Help. It's up there? That screen's black. Susan Carroll: Alright, okay. Okay, that's fine. Karen Felton: Oh God. Susan Carroll: Are we done? Susan Carroll: Right, okay um, this is our second meeting and I might be a bit all over the place. Um, right our agenda for today, do you want us to give you a second? Karen Felton: Uh, no that's okay, sorry. Susan Carroll: Okay, um I'll go over what we decided last meeting, Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: um, we decided upon a universal control, one handset for all, T_V_, video equipment. Laura Holder: Sorry. Susan Carroll: Um that important that the product was accessible to a wide range of consumers, wide age range, not limiting anyone. We decided it was important to reflect the company's image in our product, we put fashion in electronics, you know that kind of s thing. Um, our budget would have to affect um try not to reflect our budget, um that we might have a bit of oh oh you can see it, okay. Um dissonance between what our budget was and what we want it to look like. Um want it to look uncluttered, undaunting to the customer. We discussed a flip-open design, um reducing the size of the control and an electronic panel um for further features like programming, things like that. Okay. Um, three presentations, I've got written here so shall we hear from Marketing first? Karen Felton: Um is it okay if I postpone that til later, I just want to get access to a little bit more information, Susan Carroll: No Karen Felton: is that Susan Carroll: that's Karen Felton: okay? Susan Carroll: fine, that's fine. Lillie Avila: Okay, yeah I'll go first Can. I grab the Susan Carroll: Unplug Karen Felton. Lillie Avila: Thanks. Lillie Avila: What do I have to press? Oh, F_ eight? Susan Carroll: Um, F_N_ function F_ Lillie Avila: Oh Susan Carroll: eight. Lillie Avila: right, yeah. Okay. Maybe Laura Holder: Yep. Lillie Avila: Yep there we go. Okay this is uh the working design, presented by Karen Felton, the uh Industrial Designer extraordinaire. 'Kay, this is where I went a bit mad with PowerPoint so. What the first thing question I asked was what are we trying to design? Well, a device which basically sends the signal to the T_V_ to change its state, whether that be the power, or the channel um or the volume, everything is just um some sort of signal to change the state of the T_V_ or other appliance that it's sending the signal to. Um, so I decided I'd have a look at what th other people have designed and try and take some inspiration from that. But uh although we will want to be taking ideas from other people, we wanna make sure that our design stands out and I thought that was something that well it wasn't really my area because I'm dealing with the inside really. So um, yeah I ran out of time so I couldn't do this one as fun as the last one. Um and uh I found out that most uh controls use some form of infrared to send signals to the T_V_ presumably because of the cost issue of uh something like uh the same thing that computers use, wireless and, you don't need to send very much information. Um, most of them are powered by some form of battery. Now our one, I'm I'm not sure whether we want to look at the size issue because most of them are powered by triple A_ batteries but those can be quite bulky so I d I didn't know if you wanted to look at something else um so we could shrink down the size Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Could Lillie Avila: of the Karen Felton: I Lillie Avila: control. Karen Felton: can I interject to ask a question Susan Carroll: Mm-hmm. Lillie Avila: Yeah Karen Felton: there, is Lillie Avila: sure. Karen Felton: that appropriate? You're saying the triple A_ batteries are small or Lillie Avila: Um Karen Felton: the Lillie Avila: no no, Karen Felton: surrounding Lillie Avila: if you Karen Felton: it? Lillie Avila: if you look at if you look at most remote controls they're quite they're quite chunky and Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Lillie Avila: that's because of the size of the batteries, they have to be obviously this certain size to fit those Karen Felton: Right, Lillie Avila: batteries Karen Felton: the triple Lillie Avila: in. Karen Felton: A_s are the smallest you can Lillie Avila: Yeah Karen Felton: get Lillie Avila: the Karen Felton: are they not, Lillie Avila: the Susan Carroll: They Lillie Avila: well Karen Felton: right? Susan Carroll: are. Laura Holder: Okay. Lillie Avila: you can you can get the sort of circular round ones Karen Felton: Oh Lillie Avila: but I'm just Karen Felton: I see. Lillie Avila: wondering about power consumption and how much you need to send Karen Felton: Okay. Lillie Avila: the data across. Um, and d which leads sort of onto the next point about 'em being small and easy to carry round. Um, now the ones at the moment are small but I was just wondering if we could look at something a bit smaller. Now the main components I came up with um were obviously the power source for the batteries 'cause otherwise it's not gonna work, uh as I said about the w which batteries we were gonna choose, we can uh discuss that later and then you obviously need something to decode the information that you're putting in from from the controller and to turn it into an i uh infrared signal which we're going to use to send the information. Now these have a wireless range of up to about five metres which is sort of suitable for anyone who's watching the T_V_ unless they're in a cinema, which not most people do so as we're applying to the most audience that should be fine. And then I was uh just had a quick look at the external design but I d I left that mostly to the uh interface designer. And so this is what I had as the basic idea of what we wanna do. It's not a proper circuit, I'm not sure if it'd work or not, I'm not even confident that those are the real um the real way you'd wire it up but anyway, we've just got the the power going to the infrared bulb with the chip and the uh U_I_ interface um which would basically, when you when you pressed anything it would the chip would convert it into some form of I_R_ data which could be decoded by the T_V_ receiver, which obviously means that we're gonna have to conform to whatever um whatever form of communication that the T_V_s are already using and since that that's another use and reason to use that infrared because that's what all T_V_s use at the moment. And then finally, um we want uh the it to be available to a wide audience at a low cost so all the components that I've put forward are uh low in cost so that that should be good. Um it should should be different enough um from the alternative products to get a good consumer base, we were talking about it before and also just something that I was thinking about, uh because they're small Karen Felton: Mm. Lillie Avila: they're also easy to lose so if we could look into some way of d dunno some anti-going down the side of the sofa Karen Felton: Mm. Lillie Avila: thing that you could have, I th that was just sort of a general point there. Karen Felton: Mm. Lillie Avila: And Karen Felton: That's Lillie Avila: that's Karen Felton: a very important Lillie Avila: uh Karen Felton: part, it came up Lillie Avila: yeah. Karen Felton: in our market research findings too so I can refer to that, Lillie Avila: Alright okay, Karen Felton: whenever you like Karen Felton to present. Lillie Avila: and yeah, that's that's what I came up with there, so Susan Carroll: Okay, Lillie Avila: if Susan Carroll: thank Lillie Avila: you wanna Susan Carroll: you very much. Um, would you like to continue Laura Holder: Yep Susan Carroll: on from that? Lillie Avila: Ooh. Laura Holder: 'Kay. Susan Carroll: Or, Laura Holder: It can be Susan Carroll: maybe move the laptop Laura Holder: okay, that's Susan Carroll: over. Laura Holder: okay with Karen Felton. further. Laura Holder: Oops. Laura Holder: Why's it not working? F_ eight, right? Susan Carroll: F_ function. Lillie Avila: Function F_ eight yeah. Laura Holder: Okay. Mm Karen Felton: No. Laura Holder: why's it in the right? Karen Felton: The plug hasn't come out at the Laura Holder: Yeah, Karen Felton: bottom, Laura Holder: it's Karen Felton: has Laura Holder: connecting. Karen Felton: it? No. Lillie Avila: No, no yeah it's just. Karen Felton: Meter adjusting. Susan Carroll: Oh, there. Laura Holder: okay. Yeah. Actually mm some of my points might overlap with what William's Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: just mention, but basically my method was like uh whatever brainstorming we did in the last meeting just a couple valuable points and started developing on and there might be some missing loops in this thing which I think we'll uh take a feedback from the marketing because um, I haven't had some marketing data and basically every product is marketable. So purpose, as William already said, I would put it to simplify the interaction with T_V_ to make make it as simple as possible. And to summarise I I would say it's it should be user-friendly by being easy to use, rather than having a lot of complex button because you can have an engineering maybe having hundred buttons and maybe having uh a remote control which has the main features like volume control or channel ch changing the channel or whatever. But we are to to make it unique so that people want to buy it, will this two features together. So what the concept is to have a flip-top model. The main functions such as which are like often used will be on the top and the complex functions which say you you can say like the y young generation or trendy generation want to pr say programme their favourite channels or whatever, can be put in the middle part of the f flip-top. So it's like it could be accessed by a wide ra range of uh audience and we can punch in new f features such as uh added features such as shock proof body and maybe a design to appeal to a lot of people. Findings most people prefer us user-friendly rather than complex remote controls because there are times like uh people have used a remote control for say a year or something and they they are not used maybe thirty to forty percent of the buttons so it's not of no use of punching in the uh trying to put in those things in on the top of the remote control and try to confuse the user. As we saw we we have to make a profit also so we we can maybe go for an economies of a higher production mm by fifty million we said? Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: Yeah, with that I think we'll be able to achieve economies of scale also, so we can give in add in more features and make it less costly. Um, that's so this is if you ask Karen Felton personally, I would make uh flip-top with a trendy uh uh design and s maybe we we should look at also like the buttons whe whether they are like soft or little hard because they are Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: times when the buttons tend to be a bit hard after uh continuous use usage and all that. So in overall a simple and uh user-friendly design. Karen Felton: Mm. Laura Holder: Uh any Susan Carroll: 'Kay. Laura Holder: comments like, if you want? Susan Carroll: Um, I think we'll chat about it at the end, Laura Holder: Okay. Susan Carroll: okay so if anyone wants to write something down that they want to bring up at the end, Karen Felton: 'Kay. Lillie Avila: Yeah sure. Susan Carroll: um Ooh, it's vibrating, that's strange. Oh, God. Susan Carroll: Right, okay. Karen Felton: Have I got Laura Holder: I Karen Felton: to keep Laura Holder: think Karen Felton: this Laura Holder: you'll Karen Felton: here? Laura Holder: have to You can't Karen Felton: Does it matter? Laura Holder: It'll have to this can't Karen Felton: I'll Laura Holder: be Karen Felton: have Laura Holder: pulled. Karen Felton: t I'll have to move Susan Carroll: We just Karen Felton: it Susan Carroll: do Karen Felton: won't Susan Carroll: the best we Karen Felton: I? Susan Carroll: can. Karen Felton: Uh, whoops. Laura Holder: You'll have to push it a bit more. Karen Felton: Will it manage? Bit more, oh Laura Holder: Yep. Karen Felton: dear. Laura Holder: Yeah this is more than enough. Lillie Avila: There we go, Laura Holder: Okay. Lillie Avila: I've got a bit more of the Karen Felton: Oh. Lillie Avila: cable. we go. Karen Felton: Is that okay? Laura Holder: Yeah I think you can pull it out now. Karen Felton: Thank you, just pull it closer a little bit. Lillie Avila: Uh you should be able to Susan Carroll: Yeah, Lillie Avila: and Susan Carroll: you Karen Felton: Get Susan Carroll: might. Karen Felton: it right Lillie Avila: yeah, Karen Felton: over, Lillie Avila: there Karen Felton: okay, Lillie Avila: you Karen Felton: thank you. Susan Carroll: Ah. Lillie Avila: go. Susan Carroll: Look at that. Karen Felton: Okay, um, I'm going to look at the functional requirements from the marketing point of view and uh obviously our starting point with marketing is always market research. Um, so that's where we started, we used our our usability lab, the company's usability lab, we did our usual selection methods to get a cross-section of the general public, male and female, all age groups from fifteen upwards and um we observed them in the lab, just their general use of the remote control, you can see we had a hundred subjects there. Our findings, lots of findings, I've just summarised some of them here. The overall thing which I've I've got at the top there in italics is that users dislike the look and feel of current remote controls, so it has obvious design implications there. Um, we found that seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly. Eighty percent would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy, we were quite surprised by that finding, but um that's quite a high proportion of our our, you know, international target group are prepared to spend more money for something that's a bit nicer looking. Um, current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user overall. For example, you can see below there, seventy five percent of users zap a lot, so you've got your Laura Holder: Yeah. Karen Felton: person sunk back in the sofa channel-hopping. So again there's power implications there. Um, fifty percent of users only use ten percent of the buttons, so again a big design issue there. Um and possibly we can also cut back on cost if we don't have so many functions actually on the remote control. Um the biggest frustrations that people found with regard to personal preferences were um something that you you mentioned earlier, uh remote controls are often lost in the room, it's a slipping down the back of the sofa type of thing, uh fifty percent were were particularly frustrated by that. Uh thirty four percent of people take said they take too much time to learn to use and I think that ties in with the um the previous finding of people only using ten percent of the buttons, they just can't be bothered to learn about the other functions. Um, um slightly more than a quarter of people said it was bad for uh repetitive strain injury. You know those small movements of the remote control can lead to kind of shoulder and elbow problems. Um the vast majority of the thirty five and under age group would like um a liquid crystal display and speech recognition, again that was to aid I think in uh when they've lost the actual remote control, some kind of speech recognition. Something we didn't put to them, but which I'm thinking of now is um even if perhaps the lost control can give off a bleep every now and again til you find it or a flashing light, possibly. Um, that trend reverses in the older age groups. So thirty fives and unders who would like those two features, that kind of evens out thirty five to forty five and in the older age group it kind of reverses, they're not so bothered with this. I Laura Holder: 'Kay. Karen Felton: had marvellous tables and things that I could show you, but I think I'll just keep it simple, if there's any more information I can email you extra details, Susan Carroll: Okay. Karen Felton: is that Lillie Avila: Okay. Karen Felton: okay? Susan Carroll: Yeah. Laura Holder: That's fine. Susan Carroll: Right, Lillie Avila: Huh. Susan Carroll: um we have new project requirements, um we're not going to be using teletext, Laura Holder: Okay. Susan Carroll: um apparently the consumers consider it outdated with the internet now. Um our control is only going to be for T_V_, it's not going to be a combined control, which limits you know all of the different things that it limits the cost for us, but it Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: also makes it easier to understand Karen Felton: Mm-hmm, Susan Carroll: for Karen Felton: so Susan Carroll: the Karen Felton: can we not Susan Carroll: consumer. Karen Felton: programme a video with this remote control? Susan Carroll: It says for T_V_ only, so looks like it's Karen Felton: Just Susan Carroll: just Karen Felton: channel-hopping. Susan Carroll: yeah, I think maybe Sky things like that might be incorporated into it, but I don't know, what do you think? It just said, for T_V_ only. Karen Felton: Would Susan Carroll: But Karen Felton: that Susan Carroll: I mean, Karen Felton: imply Susan Carroll: general Karen Felton: video Susan Carroll: T_V_ Karen Felton: use? Susan Carroll: controls Lillie Avila: T yeah yeah. Susan Carroll: do do video as well. Lillie Avila: I d well I dunno Susan Carroll: I mean you Lillie Avila: 'cause Susan Carroll: bu Lillie Avila: uh Susan Carroll: well Lillie Avila: the Susan Carroll: som Lillie Avila: w if Susan Carroll: you Lillie Avila: you've Susan Carroll: get Lillie Avila: g Susan Carroll: com you get combined T_V_ and videos don't Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: you? Karen Felton: Mm-hmm, Lillie Avila: If yeah and if Karen Felton: yes. Lillie Avila: you got if you got a Sky box, they have one of those plus boxes, you can record straight off the T_V_ anyway Susan Carroll: Mm. Lillie Avila: so on to on to like the T_V_ hard drive or so. Susan Carroll: I think we assume that it's still got play and stop functions and Karen Felton: Yes. Susan Carroll: programming. Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: Anything about that on the market research or something like regarding whether people want a combined something like that? Karen Felton: Um we didn't really look into that but remember we found that finding that most people only use about uh Susan Carroll: Mm. Laura Holder: Ten Karen Felton: ten Laura Holder: perc Karen Felton: percent of the buttons, Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Karen Felton: I think th th those do tend to be the basic channel-hopping things and Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: on and off for the video, fast-forwarding, so on and I think it's sort of general knowledge that people do find programming their videos a nightmare. Laura Holder: Okay. Susan Carroll: Hmm. Karen Felton: So I. Lillie Avila: Ju um just as an idea on the uh speech recognition thing Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Lillie Avila: that pr it'd probably be quite expensive Laura Holder: Pens Lillie Avila: to incorporate an entire speech recognition thing and they're not that great Karen Felton: In fact Lillie Avila: anyway. Karen Felton: I've just called up that table there, Lillie Avila: Alright, okay. Karen Felton: we asked those two questions, table relates to both questions, so we didn't differentiate. Would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen, that's multi-function remote and would you pay Lillie Avila: Alright, Karen Felton: more for Lillie Avila: okay. Karen Felton: speech recognition in a remote control? So you can see how the the yes no sort Susan Carroll: Mm-hmm. Karen Felton: of varies Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: across the age group there, and a substantial number of don't knows in the older age group, I think that's just general fear of new technology. Susan Carroll: Yeah, Lillie Avila: Yeah Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Lillie Avila: but um Susan Carroll: bu Lillie Avila: on on that again I just thought 'cause you can get those key chains now and you whistle and then it'll Karen Felton: Oh Lillie Avila: let Karen Felton: yeah. Lillie Avila: off a loud noise to let you know where it is Karen Felton: Right. Lillie Avila: so I thought that could be quite a Susan Carroll: We do have a budget limitation that we can't control ourselves, so I think when we can take a cheaper option which still does the Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: same kinda thing um because it is something I it needs to be the thing that you use to find it needs to be something that you don't lose, you were Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: saying whistling, Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: maybe on the T_V_ you could put like a pack on the T_V_ or something so you can't see the remote, you go and press the button on top of the T_V_ and it beeps and Karen Felton: Yes. Susan Carroll: you're Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: like oh Laura Holder: Okay. Susan Carroll: okay it's over there, Karen Felton: That's Susan Carroll: something Karen Felton: a super idea. Susan Carroll: like that, but Lillie Avila: Hmm. Susan Carroll: that's that sounds a lot cheaper to Karen Felton. Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: Yeah. Susan Carroll: Um the third thing was that we have to make sure the corporate image is very much incorporated into the handset. Um so we want logo, we want um fashionable, trendy, I mean what you were talking about with the marketing. Um, people paying more for it to look good. Um, we need to focus on that as well. Karen Felton: Yes, further market research will be needed to kind of focus on what that is, it's gonna be different for a fifteen year old th for somebody who's sixty Susan Carroll: Yeah. Karen Felton: and also across the world if we're aiming at the international market. What is um attractive to a trendy New Yorker and what is attractive to a retired South African, Susan Carroll: Mm. Karen Felton: I dunno, you get the idea. It's it's gonna vary around the world. At the end of the day, th the engineering design is one thing, it's the user interface design that may and th the sort of Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: you know fashionable aspect of it we might have to change for different markets round the world. Susan Carroll: Yeah. Laura Holder: So are we talking of a single model or maybe five, six designs? Sure. Lillie Avila: Well y yeah you could you could have a number of different designs Laura Holder: Alright. Lillie Avila: I mean inside they'd be essentially exactly the same. Laura Holder: Right. Susan Carroll: Mm-hmm. Lillie Avila: Just Laura Holder: The features Karen Felton: Yeah. Laura Holder: could be same and the body could look Lillie Avila: yeah, Laura Holder: slightly different. Karen Felton: Mm. Lillie Avila: yeah. Laura Holder: So Susan Carroll: What about you were talking about the buttons, Laura Holder: Yeah. Susan Carroll: um the controls that are coming out now have kind of big, rubber buttons, not tiny little one, big, rubber buttons, but what about, I mean, 'cause we got to make it original, Lillie Avila: 'Kay. Susan Carroll: what about um you know with the touch screen Lillie Avila: Yeah, Susan Carroll: computers Lillie Avila: yeah that's what I was just Susan Carroll: yeah? Lillie Avila: yeah. Susan Carroll: Um so you it's like a little panel that you touch rather than a button which shouldn't wear out as much either, not Lillie Avila: No, Susan Carroll: sure about Lillie Avila: well no Susan Carroll: the Lillie Avila: 'cause you wouldn't have to you don't actually Susan Carroll: You Lillie Avila: have Susan Carroll: don't Lillie Avila: to press Susan Carroll: have to press Lillie Avila: them you Susan Carroll: it, Lillie Avila: just Susan Carroll: you just have to put your thumb onto it. Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: Um, think that might appeal I'm thinking kind of Japan, I'm thinking uh young, um Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: office people, Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: trendy Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: kind Karen Felton: Yes Susan Carroll: of a thing. Karen Felton: it will appeal to sections of the market Susan Carroll: Um, Karen Felton: def Susan Carroll: but quite, um, easily labelled so that anyone can oh yeah that's obvious what that's for Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: and it's not daunting to maybe the older Karen Felton: Mm-hmm, Susan Carroll: generations, Lillie Avila: Mm. Karen Felton: mm. Lillie Avila: But Susan Carroll: um Lillie Avila: also er ergonomics as we're saying with the different designs, ergonomics uh there's sort of physically different things 'cause um if you've ever seen the X_ Box they had to make two different sized controllers because people in Japan wouldn't buy it because the controller Susan Carroll: Were too Lillie Avila: was Susan Carroll: big. Lillie Avila: physically to big because um they're c uh just generally Japanese people have smaller hands Susan Carroll: Mm. Lillie Avila: so they couldn't get round the controller which is uh so if you I don't know what 'cause you obviously you can have bigger buttons for some countries or something and smaller ones for others. Laura Holder: Yeah, uh maybe to as uh it it was indicated that uh uh risk uh of uh repeated use, the injuries, maybe a touch screen could be a better option for that. Lillie Avila: Yeah. Yeah. Laura Holder: So, a bigger b okay so y you're dividing designs based on not only segment age groups, you're desi uh dividing it according to the countries also, the market. Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Laura Holder: Maybe for U_S_ and all you can have a slightly bigger remote Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: control and maybe in Japan and all you need to have a small, Lillie Avila: Hmm. Laura Holder: yeah. Susan Carroll: I think we have to design Lillie Avila: Huh. Susan Carroll: one product Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: and then the company can take it wherever they want to uh Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: the features slightly, Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: um. Karen Felton: Th the internal d engineering design has got to remain the same, Susan Carroll: It's Karen Felton: yes, Susan Carroll: gonna be the same, Karen Felton: absolutely. Susan Carroll: so we need to focus on just one thing, Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: not get bogged down in lots of different um possibilities, Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: um. Karen Felton: I'm concerned, when you read the the R_S_I_ issue again, repetitive strain injury, I don't think just moving your finger around on a small screen is going to deal with that enough, I think that is still a kind of a question mark issue how we deal with that. Um, Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: R_S_I_ tends to be caused by repetitive small movements. I'm j I really can't get my head round this one, this may Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: have to be postponed to a future meeting but it's something we should think about. Lillie Avila: I yeah I was just thinking about how you could combat that 'cause Karen Felton: Mm. Lillie Avila: without without doing something where you have to move your arm Karen Felton: I Lillie Avila: around Karen Felton: know, and it Lillie Avila: to Karen Felton: becomes Lillie Avila: change the Karen Felton: ridiculous, Lillie Avila: channel and it Karen Felton: yes Lillie Avila: becomes yeah. Susan Carroll: Or Karen Felton: I know. Susan Carroll: a speech recognition, Lillie Avila: Yeah, Karen Felton: Yeah. Lillie Avila: speech recognition, Susan Carroll: which Lillie Avila: but Susan Carroll: is extremely expensive, Lillie Avila: yeah. Susan Carroll: I Karen Felton: Yes. Susan Carroll: think that's the only way that you kind of avoid Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: that kind of issue. Karen Felton: Do we have to initially um, you know looking at the findings here, focus on a younger age group initially and then broaden out the market later. Do we really have to go for everyone right away? Lillie Avila: Mm. Laura Holder: We Karen Felton: Um. Laura Holder: could focus on the biggest market. Karen Felton: Mm. Lillie Avila: Ge Laura Holder: If say Lillie Avila: uh Laura Holder: people between age group of twenty to thirty five are Karen Felton: And when Laura Holder: the biggest Karen Felton: we've been throwing Laura Holder: market? Karen Felton: up our ideas we're automatically talking about business people, young people, trendy people. Susan Carroll: We are we're talking about um the type of company that we're working for as well. That they want um it to be fashionable, they want it to be trendy and you wouldn't automatically assume associate that with the older generations. Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: Now with the baby boomers, the older generations are actually larger, they have a greater population Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: than us young Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: people, Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: but I don't think we're focusing on that, I think we are focusing on a sort of mid-range Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: um, business kind of class type Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: people. Karen Felton: I'm just thinking of budgetary issues too, for when it does get to the sort of broad scale marketing stage, we want to, you know, not waste money, not be profligate Susan Carroll: Mm-hmm. Karen Felton: and uh you know focus on where the idea will be taken up, first it's most likely to be taken up first of all where the main purchasing power is coming from for a product like this. Susan Carroll: Okay, so the remote control functions. Um we've got the T_V_, Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: we've got the video, now there's um I can't remember what it's called, the little code at the end of programme details, Lillie Avila: Video plus. Susan Carroll: yes. We could use that as an alternative to programming in times, things like that, Lillie Avila: Yeah Susan Carroll: is Lillie Avila: yeah. Susan Carroll: that I always found that really easy when I discovered Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: it, Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: um because you've got your general record anyway so if you there's a programme on you want to put record on, that's fine, but if you do want to tape something Lillie Avila: Just Susan Carroll: in Lillie Avila: whack Susan Carroll: two days Lillie Avila: in the Susan Carroll: time Lillie Avila: number. Susan Carroll: and you're not sure if you're going to, you put the number in and it's just a number, it's not a date, it's not a time, it's not a channel, it's not when it finishes, it's not Lillie Avila: And Susan Carroll: anything Lillie Avila: you w Susan Carroll: like that, Lillie Avila: yeah. Susan Carroll: it's just a number. Lillie Avila: And you wouldn't you wouldn't need uh a whole host of extra buttons for that, you Susan Carroll: No. Lillie Avila: just need one 'cause you've already got all the numbers Susan Carroll: You've already Lillie Avila: there Susan Carroll: got Lillie Avila: anyway, Susan Carroll: the numbers Lillie Avila: yeah. Susan Carroll: for typing Karen Felton: Right, Susan Carroll: in anyway. Karen Felton: I've not come across that function but it sounds wonderful. Susan Carroll: It is after um if you look in the newspaper, Lillie Avila: It's not Susan Carroll: T_V_ guide or any T_V_ guide there's a five, six Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: digit number afterwards and that's the number you put in Karen Felton: Ah, Susan Carroll: and it's Karen Felton: hmm. Susan Carroll: recorded that it's going to be on on Tuesdays at ten o'clock on the seventeenth so you don't have to worry about dates and you don't have to worry about times, Karen Felton: Right. Susan Carroll: um and it has been around for quite Lillie Avila: It's Susan Carroll: a Lillie Avila: been Susan Carroll: long time. Lillie Avila: been around for a long time it's just it's not very well advertised Susan Carroll: No Lillie Avila: as Susan Carroll: it's not Lillie Avila: to how Karen Felton: Superb. Susan Carroll: um Lillie Avila: to use it and Susan Carroll: but Lillie Avila: things. Susan Carroll: I think if awareness was kind of Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: brought to the forefront about that Lillie Avila: Mm. Karen Felton: Yes. Lillie Avila: Though if y if you've got something like Sky anyway you can just click on it you can just press the button on the programme once and it'll record that programme Susan Carroll: Mm. Karen Felton: Right. Lillie Avila: when it's on and you press it on it twice and it'll record the whole series. Karen Felton: Excellent, mm-hmm. Lillie Avila: So that yeah. Karen Felton: Mm. Lillie Avila: But just to have that function would Karen Felton: Right. Lillie Avila: be would be really good. Susan Carroll: Okay so Karen Felton: Can I just run this past you while it occurs to Karen Felton, I don't mean to quickly jump from one subject to another, but just discussing the different age groups and targeting the different age groups it occurs to Karen Felton, to produce our own mobile phones, that that's kind of what led us on to comparing T_V_ remote controls with with their design features, um, chain companies like Carphone Warehouse, you can pop in anytime with a phone that you bought for them w if you've got any problems with it and they'll fix it, they'll Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: phone the company, you can use Susan Carroll: Mm-hmm. Karen Felton: their telephones. Is it worthwhile with with our retail outlets having a a similar um kind of service so that if older users were deterred from buying this, if they know they can just pop into one of our high street outlets, th you know, which button is it I press for this? Th as free as a free aspect of our service, would that not make it more attractive to them? Lillie Avila: Mm. But the only problem is that with a mobile phone you signed for a contract so they um the companies who uh who you deal with have actually they've they've got an obligation to Karen Felton: Mm. Lillie Avila: to help you out and Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Lillie Avila: also I mean it's it's fair enough to have some sort of help service but I I'm not sure how much the cost would be of Karen Felton: Right. Lillie Avila: having Susan Carroll: The functionality of it in the sense that you're sitting there, you're pressing this button and your T_V_'s not doing it. Karen Felton: Alright. Susan Carroll: Taking your T_V_ and your Karen Felton: Yes Susan Carroll: control and saying look this is what I'm doing, it's not working, what should I do? Karen Felton: If it was something as simple as you couldn't change the channel, but I mean for if there were any more or are we absolutely definite it's only gonna be for T_V_ and video, we're Lillie Avila: Yeah, Karen Felton: not Susan Carroll: I Lillie Avila: I Karen Felton: gonna Susan Carroll: think Lillie Avila: mean Karen Felton: put any Susan Carroll: so. Karen Felton: okay, Susan Carroll: Um Karen Felton: just a thought. Lillie Avila: I mean instru instruction books I Susan Carroll: Instruction Lillie Avila: feel c I Susan Carroll: manuals. Lillie Avila: reckon Karen Felton: Okay. Lillie Avila: can Susan Carroll: But Lillie Avila: cover Susan Carroll: I mean Lillie Avila: that. Susan Carroll: they're there's customer service, there Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: will be a customer service number Lillie Avila: Department, Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Lillie Avila: yeah. Susan Carroll: thing that you can phone up and speak to Karen Felton: Sure. Susan Carroll: and that way there's no call out charge, there's no extra, t the person Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: has to walk to a shop Laura Holder: Right. Susan Carroll: on the high street, Karen Felton: Yeah. Laura Holder: I think Susan Carroll: um. Laura Holder: it will be too much of an effort for a person to for a phone maybe he might walk down the street, Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: but for a remote he will just refer Karen Felton: Not Laura Holder: to the Karen Felton: for Laura Holder: manual Karen Felton: such Lillie Avila: And they're Karen Felton: simple Laura Holder: and all that. Karen Felton: functions Lillie Avila: yeah, Karen Felton: because Lillie Avila: they Karen Felton: we're Lillie Avila: should Karen Felton: focusing Lillie Avila: be Susan Carroll: Mm. Lillie Avila: f Karen Felton: on that, yes Susan Carroll: But Lillie Avila: yeah. Susan Carroll: we Karen Felton: okay. Susan Carroll: should focus on making the manual as Laura Holder: Simple. Susan Carroll: user-friendly Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: as possible Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: because a lot of them are just tiny Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: little writing and lots and lots of pages. Karen Felton: Puts people off reading Lillie Avila: It's the Karen Felton: them Susan Carroll: It Lillie Avila: uh Karen Felton: so Lillie Avila: yeah. Susan Carroll: does, Karen Felton: they just do the Susan Carroll: you just Karen Felton: obvious, Susan Carroll: put it in the Karen Felton: yes. Susan Carroll: drawer until something goes wrong and then you try and search through it, so Karen Felton: Sure, Susan Carroll: that should be something we think Karen Felton: okay. Susan Carroll: about. Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: Um, what other functions? We need I'm not sure if we need a design um decision now, but we should think about c 'cause you've got the dilemma between oh batteries, that's what I was thinking about. Mobile phone batteries, what kinda battery is that? Lillie Avila: Um they're they're specially made for the for the mobile phones, but they come with a charger, I mean you could you could bundle a charger Susan Carroll: Well they la Lillie Avila: in with it Susan Carroll: they Lillie Avila: but Susan Carroll: they last quite a long time, Lillie Avila: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: and if you had uh when you th the thing that you get with mobile house phones, Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: you sit it in its charger when you're not using it or Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: t at Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: night or something, but it doesn't really matter 'cause it never really runs out 'cause it lasts a long time once Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: it is charged. Um, something like that should reduce Lillie Avila: Yeah Susan Carroll: the Lillie Avila: and Susan Carroll: size Lillie Avila: if Susan Carroll: of it. Lillie Avila: yeah if you if you had if you had one of those uh just coming back to your other point about pressing the button and setting off the bleeper in the room that could uh Susan Carroll: Yeah it could be on that Lillie Avila: Yeah on Susan Carroll: yeah, Lillie Avila: that as well so. Susan Carroll: okay. S Laura Holder: So are we talking of a concept of a rechargeable something Lillie Avila: Yeah Laura Holder: on Lillie Avila: some Laura Holder: the remote? Lillie Avila: sort Susan Carroll: Yes. Lillie Avila: of docking station or Susan Carroll: Rechargeable Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: with a docking station. Lillie Avila: yeah. Susan Carroll: So the rechargeable which would be your Lillie Avila: Yeah yeah Susan Carroll: field. Lillie Avila: th yeah that that'd be fine, Susan Carroll: Okay. Lillie Avila: and also that would mean they wouldn't have to go out buying batteries all the time. Susan Carroll: Yes, Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Laura Holder: Right. Susan Carroll: which it is cheaper in the long Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: run as well. Um, th the shape you got trendy. I don't wanna big box with lots of things, you don't want a tiny sort of Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: little thing either, Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: because then you have got the repetitive strain injury no matter how many Karen Felton: Mm. Susan Carroll: how much you try and make it simple, um Karen Felton: And we don't w I mean so many remote controls look absolutely identical, these Susan Carroll: They Karen Felton: long, Susan Carroll: do. Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: brown things with the same coloured buttons all crammed in on the s the surface. We definitely an ob an obvious thing, a very simple thing is to get away from these brown rectangles, we don't want that. Susan Carroll: Okay so we've got Laura Holder: Okay. Susan Carroll: a flip-screen. Um Laura Holder: What I was thinking of a design which Nokia h uh came up with almost six or seven years back. Basically we have a flat one it it looks like a box, Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: like a chocolate. That's very strenuous because your thumb is slightly up, Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Laura Holder: so they came up with something like this, curled up, so here, so it's like uh you can say a Karen Felton: Slightly Laura Holder: banana Karen Felton: curved, Laura Holder: shape kind of thing, curled Karen Felton: curved. Laura Holder: up Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: like a boat. Susan Carroll: Okay. Laura Holder: G uh so what happens is you don't have to press your thumb too down like. So it's already Karen Felton: Mm. Laura Holder: curled up so Susan Carroll: 'Cause it's Laura Holder: your Susan Carroll: kind Laura Holder: thumb Susan Carroll: of moulded Laura Holder: doesn't y Susan Carroll: to your hand Laura Holder: yeah Susan Carroll: anyway. Karen Felton: Mm. Laura Holder: so we can have a s like you know moulded according to your Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: the way you h hold of it's kind of semi-circular in the bottom, something like that. Susan Carroll: Okay. Laura Holder: I wouldn't say exactly semi-circular but Susan Carroll: Can Laura Holder: yeah smooth. Susan Carroll: you look into the company logo? Um, things that are associated with the company in view to trying to incorporate that into the design of the product. Laura Holder: Current. Susan Carroll: I mean for example, if it was a C_ or something like that, you could have it in a vague C_ shape that opens up kind Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: of like a shell, Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: or something, um something along those lines to be able to incorporate it quite um obviously into the design, while also making it quite different from anything else that's there. Laura Holder: We could look in at Karen Felton: I mean Laura Holder: that Karen Felton: look Laura Holder: but Karen Felton: at the mobile. Lillie Avila: Mm. Laura Holder: Mm. What we were talking is to make it more rather than like sea-shells, logo could become as you could put a logo in the corner of uh the model, rather than you know, trying to make it like a sea shell or whatever you were ta telling like. Susan Carroll: Well we need to think about how it's gonna look different. Karen Felton: I think that's that sounds a really attractive idea, I've Laura Holder: A Karen Felton: not Laura Holder: sea Karen Felton: come Laura Holder: shell? Karen Felton: across anything like that before, if it kind of yeah and that opens out into your flip-top. Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: Then it's nice t to h you can make it lightweight plastic, nice to hold in the palm of the hand and just because you're having to actually insert in between the two covers, that's gonna take care of some of the repetitive strain injury trying p prevent a lot of that I would think. I think it's a really nice idea Laura Holder: Yeah Karen Felton: and Laura Holder: we could look in at Karen Felton: plus Laura Holder: that. Karen Felton: you can get you know even though we're using plastic, you can still I mean think of the designs you can get in plastic, we can do a nice conch shell or scallop shell exterior. Susan Carroll: Or you could do um different, like you get with mobile phones, different fascias. Lillie Avila: Mm. Susan Carroll: You Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: could have different kind of casings. Karen Felton: Yeah. Susan Carroll: So you could have like psychedelic ones Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: for younger people and sleek ones and Karen Felton: Less chance of it being lost too, it's not like a chocolate brown lozenge that's gonna go down the sofa Susan Carroll: Yeah. Karen Felton: and people might want to put it on their mantelpiece or whatever as a ki if it looks attractive enough as a kind of ornament they don't not gonna lose it so much either. It's easier to bit nice to handle. Susan Carroll: Mm. Laura Holder: Yeah maybe we could come at some say five, six des designs and then choose which are whichever Susan Carroll: Okay. Laura Holder: appeals the Lillie Avila: Yeah. Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Laura Holder: most like, that Susan Carroll: Okay. Laura Holder: could be the most common design. Karen Felton: Okay. Susan Carroll: Okay. Laura Holder: But we can like think of five, six designs. Susan Carroll: Right, I think we have to round it up, um Karen Felton: Can I just quickly Susan Carroll: Sure. Karen Felton: um go over the new project requirements so that I haven't missed anything. So it's no teletext, it's only for T_V_ and by implication video, Laura Holder: Mm-hmm. Karen Felton: our corporate image should be incorporated in the remote control, um something about Videoplus. Susan Carroll: That was um in cutting down the number that was kinda separate that was cutting down the number Karen Felton: Right. Susan Carroll: of functions, Karen Felton: Right. Susan Carroll: making it simpler so instead of having lots of Karen Felton: Right, Susan Carroll: things Karen Felton: so Susan Carroll: you Karen Felton: when Susan Carroll: put Karen Felton: they Susan Carroll: in Karen Felton: press Susan Carroll: for date Karen Felton: for programming you it comes up on the L_C_D_, a reminder about using Videoplus? So that they have a look at the guide and Or was is this nothing to do with the project requirements, is this just that was an add-on feature? Susan Carroll: It's kinda takes the place of Karen Felton: Uh-huh. Susan Carroll: having a button to press for the date and having the Karen Felton: Right. Susan Carroll: button to press for the channel, things like Karen Felton: Right, Susan Carroll: that. Karen Felton: so it's Susan Carroll: Um Karen Felton: kind of doing away Susan Carroll: it could Karen Felton: with Susan Carroll: be Karen Felton: the programming Susan Carroll: it c Karen Felton: feature? Susan Carroll: It Lillie Avila: Yeah. Susan Carroll: yes, Karen Felton: Right. Susan Carroll: it could be uh adv advertisement feature, um rather than design feature, you know, drawing attention to that. And it also paid um lip service in the instruction manual, 'cause it's very simple so putting it down in words should be helpful. Karen Felton: Mm, and the rechargeable batteries. Susan Carroll: Yeah. Karen Felton: Was there anything else there that we in the new Susan Carroll: Um Karen Felton: new project requirements? Laura Holder: Yeah. Susan Carroll: We've got the buttons but I think we'll Laura Holder: Yeah. Susan Carroll: work through that with the design of it, Karen Felton: Mm-hmm. Susan Carroll: um. Karen Felton: That's not at the moment a requirement, it's something we're looking at, Susan Carroll: Yes. Karen Felton: what preference Susan Carroll: Yes. Karen Felton: so it may come round to market research at some point Susan Carroll: And Karen Felton: to see Susan Carroll: we've Karen Felton: what Susan Carroll: talked Karen Felton: people Susan Carroll: about Karen Felton: would like. Susan Carroll: um there being an alarm or something, a beeping Laura Holder: For Lillie Avila: Yeah. Laura Holder: detection, Susan Carroll: for being lost, Laura Holder: right. Susan Carroll: um. Learning how to use it should be as simple as possible. But there aren't gonna be that func that many functions incorporated into it so it should be fine and the I the instruction manual, I don't know if we deal with that, um. I think Yep, Laura Holder: Yep, Susan Carroll: and different Laura Holder: I think Susan Carroll: from what's out there. Karen Felton: Okay. Susan Carroll: Yep, I think that's us. Karen Felton: What would you Laura Holder: True. Karen Felton: specifically Lillie Avila: Okay. Karen Felton: like marketing to look at before the next meeting? Or shall I just sort of generally look at all the issues involved? Susan Carroll: I think you might get guidance, but um I th Instruction manuals, 'cause Karen Felton: Okay. Susan Carroll: there tends to be a demonised thing, u um, they're everyone's got like a big pile of them, but no one really uses them. Karen Felton: Okay. Susan Carroll: Um. Karen Felton: Whoops, Laura Holder: Oops. Karen Felton: questionnaire Laura Holder: We should f Karen Felton: four. Susan Carroll: Yes, right. Karen Felton: 'Cause we're Susan Carroll: Okay. Karen Felton: at Laura Holder: I Karen Felton: lunchtime Laura Holder: think it's time Karen Felton: now Laura Holder: for Karen Felton: I think. Laura Holder: us to get back to Susan Carroll: Right, okay. I think you can email Karen Felton, if there's any more questions. Um and I'll be able to not answer them.

Lillie Avila gave his presentation on the basic functions of the remote. He presented the basic components that remotes share and suggested that smaller batteries be considered in the product design. Laura Holder presented his ideas for making the remote easy-to-use; he discussed using a simple design and hiding complicated features from the main interface. Karen Felton presented the findings from a lab study on user requirements for a remote control device, and discussed users' demand for a simple interface and advanced technology. Susan Carroll presented the new requirements that the remote not include a teletext function, that it be used only to control television, and that it include the company image in its design. The group narrowed down their target marketing group to the youth market. They discussed the functions the remote will have, including Video Plus capability and rechargeable batteries. A customer service plan was suggested to make the remote seem more user-friendly, but it was decided that helpful manuals were more within the budget. The group then discussed the shell-like shape of the remote and including several different casing options to buyers.

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Carol Moore: I'll wait until you're all um hooked up. Charlene Gilles: Oh good grief. 'Kay. Carol Moore: Okay. Charlene Gilles: Oh. Carol Moore: Put it on in that Vera Lipscomb: Oops. Carol Moore: way. Thanks. Carol Moore: Okay. Vera Lipscomb: Mm. Carol Moore: Welcome back everybody, Vera Lipscomb: After lunch. Carol Moore: hope you've had fun. Vera Lipscomb: Yeah. Carol Moore: Right um this is our conceptual design meeting, Vera Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: um I think we're slightly ahead of ourselves from the last meeting, Muriel Souphom: Yeah, Vera Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: I Muriel Souphom: yeah Carol Moore: th Muriel Souphom: I was getting that Carol Moore: I Muriel Souphom: impression as Carol Moore: I Muriel Souphom: well. Carol Moore: think Charlene Gilles: Mm. Carol Moore: yeah um. This is where we talk about um properties, materials, user-interface and Muriel Souphom: Etcetera. Carol Moore: trend-watching. Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: So I think we've touched on a few things to do with that already, but we'll just go. Um the minutes from the last time. Um we had a couple of um changes in our plans in that we couldn't use teletext, it wasn't gonna be a control for everything um and that we had to incorporate the image of the company into it somehow. Um we have decided on a leaving out the voice recognition, we've decided on there being a flip design and um a different shape from what's normal. We were thinking a shell, but something along those lines, just a different shape from what's normal, um. You were going to look into the rechargeable batteries Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: and we were gonna think about the port and an alarm for getting it lost, Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: things like that, um and our market was going to be young, business, kind of range. Vera Lipscomb: 'Kay. Carol Moore: Okay, so shall we start with the first presentation? Charlene Gilles: Shall I? Vera Lipscomb: Yep. Carol Moore: Yes Charlene Gilles: Okay. Carol Moore: if you feel Charlene Gilles: We just connect up. Thank you. Charlene Gilles: There we go. Okay um so we decided on our market and so this feedback from the marketing department is really about trend watching. Um the methods we used to decide on uh current trends and so on, market trends, were that we did our traditional uh our usual market research study uh with a hundred subjects and the the general feedback from them is that the most im uh w I'm sorry I'm slightly tongue-tied after lunch, sorry Carol Moore: It's Charlene Gilles: Project Carol Moore: okay. Charlene Gilles: Manager. Um we decided on the most important aspect i uh required in a remote control device and we'll come to that later. So that was one of the first things we did. Also with our company um being forerunners in uh putting fashion into technology, we also looked at a fashion update um using our consultants on fashion and design in Paris and Milan. Uh so the general findings from that was uh in the market trends the most important aspect for remote controls were people want a fancy look and feel, rather than the the current functional look and feel of remote controls. They also also want a remote control to be technologically innovative, and of course, as we predicted, that it should be easy to use. Now I should point out that the first of those findings, fancy look and feel, is the most important, is twice as important as the second, technologically innovative, which is in turn twice as important as being easy to use. So possibly that the feature that we put first is actually third is still important, but it's third in order of preference for the the subject group we looked at. Carol Moore: Yeah. Charlene Gilles: Okay, um, now the fashion update which relates to very personal preferences among our subject group, um we found from our um consultants in Paris and Milan who des attended all the design and fashion fairs there, that fruit and vegetables are going to be the theme for clothes, shoes and furniture. So should we be thinking of using something like that in our remote control design too? There also seems to be um a trend towards a spongy feel to materials, uh again in contrast to last year. So a lot of interesting feedback there, both from our market research departments and from our people in Paris and Milan. Be interesting to see what our design people make of that. Vera Lipscomb: 'Kay. Carol Moore: Okay thank you very much. Um Vera Lipscomb: Yep. Carol Moore: let's start from the inside and work our way out. Vera Lipscomb: Fine. Muriel Souphom: Yeah, Vera Lipscomb: It's okay Muriel Souphom: okay. Vera Lipscomb: with Charlene Gilles. Charlene Gilles: Unless anyone has any questions about that? Not Carol Moore: I Charlene Gilles: yet? Carol Moore: don't think so, not Charlene Gilles: 'Kay. Carol Moore: yet. Um, yes, thank you. Muriel Souphom: That screwed Charlene Gilles: Okay. Muriel Souphom: in? Carol Moore: I hate those little things Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: especially if you do them on too tight and you can't get the leverage on them to undo Charlene Gilles: I know. Carol Moore: them. Muriel Souphom: 'Kay, Carol Moore: Okay. Muriel Souphom: Okay. Um this is uh all about the design of the actual components and the availability of the components we have in stock at the moment. Okay, first uh the Into the method. The the main idea of the whole thing is just so you sh you just press buttons and it should activate things on the T_V_ and we discussed last meeting that it should be easy to find. Um also in this study I've looked into the availability of some of the materials, 'cause some of the things that we looked at last time aren't un unfortunately aren't available. Carol Moore: 'Kay. Muriel Souphom: Um, findings, I've got my nice little picture there. This is uh the chip called the T_A_ double one eight three five which is what's used in pretty much every remote control 'cause it sends out standard signals, based on your input and um it's pretty much used for all all T_V_ Carol Moore: 'Kay. Muriel Souphom: remotes at the moment. Um and then we we're loo looking into battery options. There's um actually no rechargeable option available, so we I saw the um the standard double A_ and triple A_ which we thought were a bit bit too bulky at the moment, dynamo charging, I thought that that might be a bit silly to be Carol Moore: Wa Muriel Souphom: to be honest, Carol Moore: can you explain Muriel Souphom: people won't Carol Moore: that? Muriel Souphom: it's it's basically Carol Moore: Like a Muriel Souphom: like wind-up radio. Carol Moore: right, okay. Muriel Souphom: So you wind up your remote control before you use it. Carol Moore: How what Muriel Souphom: It Carol Moore: kind Muriel Souphom: might Carol Moore: of how l long can you get out of that, I mean can you Muriel Souphom: You Carol Moore: pick it up and then wind it for two minutes and then that's it for the night? Muriel Souphom: Yeah, Carol Moore: Or Muriel Souphom: yeah, oh yeah I presu you wouldn't have to wind it for very long, but I don't I don't think it's really sort of necessary when you th you think of the next two options, like the the solar charging, 'cause most people have the light on in the room anyway so they could get Carol Moore: That Muriel Souphom: when Carol Moore: doesn't count though Muriel Souphom: when Charlene Gilles: Does Carol Moore: does Muriel Souphom: you Charlene Gilles: does Muriel Souphom: got Carol Moore: it? Charlene Gilles: light Muriel Souphom: T_V_. Charlene Gilles: charge as as sunlight Carol Moore: I thought Charlene Gilles: does? Carol Moore: it was Charlene Gilles: Artificial Carol Moore: U_V_ Muriel Souphom: No. Charlene Gilles: light? Muriel Souphom: Is Carol Moore: like Muriel Souphom: it? Alright i Charlene Gilles: Has to be solar. Carol Moore: Any, any Vera Lipscomb: Yep. Regarding those sizes, which one you think will be light because we we have to take into consideration size also, so maybe a standard triple A_ might take lesser space or and dynamo might take more Muriel Souphom: Yeah Vera Lipscomb: space. Muriel Souphom: it would the d yeah the dynamo would take more space 'cause you actually need a physical sort of handle to wind up. Carol Moore: I'm pretty sure that solar is from the sun. Muriel Souphom: Yeah, Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: okay. Carol Moore: Uh, I don't think it counts Charlene Gilles: Artificial Carol Moore: electric Charlene Gilles: light, Carol Moore: lights Charlene Gilles: no. Carol Moore: no, but I mean Charlene Gilles: That's Carol Moore: not Charlene Gilles: going to Carol Moore: many you don't want to limit your market. I mean people who live in basement flats there's not that many people, Charlene Gilles: I know, different Carol Moore: but Vera Lipscomb: Uh Carol Moore: there Muriel Souphom: But Charlene Gilles: parts Carol Moore: are Charlene Gilles: of the world Carol Moore: people. Charlene Gilles: too, if we're if we're marketing internationally. Muriel Souphom: Yeah and most Vera Lipscomb: Right. Muriel Souphom: people most people also watch T_V_ in the in the Vera Lipscomb: Night. Muriel Souphom: night anyway. Carol Moore: Mm, but then it would be charging through the day, I think the point is that it charges through the day and then you've got it charged Muriel Souphom: But Carol Moore: for Muriel Souphom: I Carol Moore: the Muriel Souphom: I think Carol Moore: evening. Muriel Souphom: I think the the next one's the best Carol Moore: Okay. Muriel Souphom: anyway. The the kinetic charging which is like you get it in r you get it in wrist watches Carol Moore: Yeah I've Muriel Souphom: and Carol Moore: seen Muriel Souphom: you d you don't even notice it. I mean the amount the amount of probably moving around you'd be doing all the time would would charge it up, I don't think you'd ever need to actually physically start shaking it up to make it work. Vera Lipscomb: And are these like uh what are the life of the kinetic battery, it like it runs for long time? Muriel Souphom: Um yeah it's it charges into um some form of it's a smaller cell Vera Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: which it charges into and uh the si the size sort of a watch a watch battery, 'cause they use them quite frequently Vera Lipscomb: Okay. Muriel Souphom: in watches. And that'll that would l would last for um well I do I d I'm not entirely sure how long it would last but I've never seen one run out. Carol Moore: But then Vera Lipscomb: We c Carol Moore: if you think about a watch, it's on your wrist so it's on your whole bod it's on your body the whole time Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: so you're walking around, you're doing things, it is moving a lot of the time. Muriel Souphom: Yeah Carol Moore: If Muriel Souphom: and Carol Moore: you'd I mean you switch the T_V_ on, then you put it on the side, then Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: you pick it up to change it and then you put it on the side. Muriel Souphom: Yeah but then Carol Moore: Is Muriel Souphom: again Carol Moore: it really gonna be enough? Muriel Souphom: I I think it is because if you think about it, the watch, although it's only a tiny amount it's it's um it's always moving for the whole day and they don't run out over night when you leave them on the side. Carol Moore: Okay. Muriel Souphom: And th for the same the same reason, you're only using it for a v incredibly short amount of time just to send the signal and then you're finished with it Charlene Gilles: Hmm. Carol Moore: So it's Muriel Souphom: and Carol Moore: not Muriel Souphom: you Carol Moore: the Muriel Souphom: put Carol Moore: draw Muriel Souphom: it Carol Moore: on it isn't Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: no no I do I don't Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: think the Carol Moore: Okay. Charlene Gilles: Could Muriel Souphom: the Charlene Gilles: I Muriel Souphom: draw Charlene Gilles: just Muriel Souphom: on it Charlene Gilles: ask Muriel Souphom: would be Charlene Gilles: referring back to solar charging, is that Muriel Souphom: Mm. Charlene Gilles: compatible with um standard batteries? I mean, could people put standard batteries in but with a s you know they could leave it in the sunlight for solar charging Muriel Souphom: Ye Charlene Gilles: or the two things not compatible? Muriel Souphom: yeah I think Carol Moore: Like a Muriel Souphom: I Carol Moore: dual Muriel Souphom: th uh g y Carol Moore: kind Muriel Souphom: you Carol Moore: of. Muriel Souphom: could have a dual um power thing but the the thing with the solar cells is you would need to put them on the case and they because, if you lie on a calculator they Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: they're qui they're quite big and they all they all look i identical. Charlene Gilles: So that affects Vera Lipscomb: Solar Charlene Gilles: the exterior Vera Lipscomb: would be Charlene Gilles: design. Carol Moore: Expensive Vera Lipscomb: slightly Carol Moore: as Vera Lipscomb: expensives. Carol Moore: well. Muriel Souphom: They're they're Carol Moore: What Muriel Souphom: expensive, Carol Moore: kind of price Muriel Souphom: they don't Carol Moore: are we looking at for I presume Vera Lipscomb: It's Carol Moore: the Vera Lipscomb: twelve Carol Moore: normal Vera Lipscomb: point f Carol Moore: batteries are the cheapest? Muriel Souphom: Yeah the normal batteries would be the cheapest I'd presume then it would actually be the the solar charging ones, um but the It's i I think they're not very resistant to dropping, 'cause if you Carol Moore: Solar. Muriel Souphom: drop stuff yeah if you if you have Carol Moore: Well they're Muriel Souphom: y Carol Moore: not designed Muriel Souphom: the size you'd need to charge a remote wouldn't be that big but I mean if remotes always get thrown around and stuff, so. Y Carol Moore: Practical-wise Muriel Souphom: I think yeah, Carol Moore: okay. Muriel Souphom: practically. I mean calculators you don't really throw around a lot whereas remotes you do, they Carol Moore: You Muriel Souphom: can Carol Moore: do get Muriel Souphom: t Carol Moore: a bit of wear but don't calculators have a battery in them Muriel Souphom: Yeah Carol Moore: as Muriel Souphom: they Carol Moore: well? Muriel Souphom: do, they yeah they've got dual things, Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: but they're Carol Moore: Mm. Muriel Souphom: the batteries are smaller I think. Vera Lipscomb: Another Charlene Gilles: Again Vera Lipscomb: question Charlene Gilles: it de Vera Lipscomb: is like sorry. W w which one would last the longest, because we don't want customers to be like you know charging like a mobile phone every day. Muriel Souphom: Mm. Vera Lipscomb: A remote Muriel Souphom: W Vera Lipscomb: control, like, so Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: m yeah so Vera Lipscomb: we Muriel Souphom: the Vera Lipscomb: have to s look at the life also. Muriel Souphom: Yeah the the s if you if you had something du uh using the standard batteries and the solar charging, um, I don't think you'd I think the it would d well you know how long the standard double A_s would last in or Charlene Gilles: It would Muriel Souphom: triple Charlene Gilles: just detract Muriel Souphom: A_s would last. Charlene Gilles: from the attractiveness of the of the whole feature, Muriel Souphom: Yeah Charlene Gilles: i it's Muriel Souphom: I think Charlene Gilles: not gonna Muriel Souphom: i I Charlene Gilles: add Muriel Souphom: think Charlene Gilles: anything, Muriel Souphom: it would, Charlene Gilles: okay. Muriel Souphom: yeah. Carol Moore: Okay, can we add in uh an attachment to closing feature? Vera Lipscomb: Okay. Carol Moore: Can we think about that? 'Cause if we're doing the kinetic thing Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: and Charlene Gilles: Shouldn't we do some Carol Moore: it's Charlene Gilles: market research on that first before we add it in because I I personally Carol Moore: Well add it in to think about Charlene Gilles: right, okay. Carol Moore: um because, where am I? If it is the kinetic thing and it is small and it is portable and it is a different shape Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: and the kinetic is something people don't do kind of we're doing something original and different um but if you wore it if it's something you could just clip on your pocket then you would have that less, you you wouldn't lose it Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: so much. But then maybe Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: that's looking at someone who's just sitting on their own rather than the eternal battle for control of the controls. Charlene Gilles: It's not something that's come up in any of our uh focus groups and market research, Carol Moore: No. Charlene Gilles: it's not a thing that people are looking for Carol Moore: Okay. Charlene Gilles: when we threw it open Vera Lipscomb: So Charlene Gilles: to the field yeah. Muriel Souphom: Okay. Charlene Gilles: But it's something to put on the side to think about maybe. Carol Moore: Okay, right. Muriel Souphom: Okay, well I'll move on. Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: Um, my second part of my findings uh the mo most current remotes use this silicone uh P_C_B_ board which pr printed circuit board, has these contacts that are really close together and then when you press down on the rubber button, it'll connect the circuit and each each switch is connected to two uh different legs on the chip and so sends a different message and that then uh gets translated by the chip into a code and then it's fired out of this L_E_D_ in the sequence of l on and off bursts. Carol Moore: What kind of things do we have to consider there? Can we what kind of size, does it come in varying sizes or is it just one size Muriel Souphom: Well Carol Moore: and we would have to fit the Muriel Souphom: well Carol Moore: design Muriel Souphom: this Carol Moore: of Muriel Souphom: the thi the thing about is um they they can be as big or as small as you want them to be because you can you can print circuit board like that that it's it's simply spaced like that so you can have fit the n the size of the nine buttons in. If you if you see how thin the tracks are, Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: you could you could s you could put them virtually right next to each other and have a much smaller switch on each one, if Carol Moore: Okay. Muriel Souphom: you if you wanted to but um the there is an option to do to do it like that, or you could have some sort of array of switches which I'll speak about in the next bit Carol Moore: Okay. Muriel Souphom: so that And then to uh yeah, so to conserve battery life the remote should be in a standby mode no while not being used. Now what I was thinking about that was 'cause sometimes when y when you have these things, they've got little lights on behind the buttons, so you can see what all the buttons are, like on a mobile phone, they Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: do it more Vera Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: often than on a than on a T_V_ remote, but you could you could have lights behind the buttons and um after like five or ten seconds of not being used I'd have that turned off, if we decided to go for buttons that could light up. Vera Lipscomb: Okay. Muriel Souphom: Um, the case material, I've a been sent what the factory can actually give us, the there's the plastic which I think we were gonna go for anyway as the main case Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: case housing and the the main problems with the well you could go for wood but I think it would be a bit impractical. Titanium um very expensive just to process, which Carol Moore: Mm. Muriel Souphom: to make it is expensive, and rubber, well you're saying that people like this uh spongy feel this Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: year, so perhaps uh some something made of rubber, but I was thinking more of the buttons, because the buttons which they've they've said that they've they've put across are what is used in some stress ball manufacture Charlene Gilles: Okay. Muriel Souphom: and it's meant to be anti R_S_I_. Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: I'm no I'm not sure how that would work because surely your fingers would still be moving over the short distances but that's what they said. Um the problem with the casing is that uh there's quite um there's quite a few design restrictions that they've got on the shape of the case. If you go for titanium they can only do a standard box shape, whereas if you come to plastic they can they can be a little more they can they can do sort of curved shapes. But whether whether or not because we'd have it in two separate units Vera Lipscomb: Second Muriel Souphom: for Carol Moore: Hinged, Vera Lipscomb: thing Muriel Souphom: the flip Vera Lipscomb: is Muriel Souphom: phone. Carol Moore: yeah. Vera Lipscomb: yeah and second question is like, a mobile you can change the cover, Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: you call it a skin or whatever. So in this case if you're looking at like a customer can change the colour like from green, parrot Charlene Gilles: Mm. Vera Lipscomb: green to chilli red or something like that. Muriel Souphom: Yeah I th Vera Lipscomb: So is that feature available in like uh titanium, or it's Muriel Souphom: Uh. Vera Lipscomb: like only specific to plastic Muriel Souphom: Yeah Vera Lipscomb: or Muriel Souphom: in in titanium I don't I don't think it would be available at all really, Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: the ju just it w well you could make it available in the titanium, it was just it would be so expensive to buy a new case for it, Vera Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: because of the expense of how much titanium is is it's light and strong but I think it should be left for aircraft design rather than for Charlene Gilles: It does Muriel Souphom: for Charlene Gilles: mark Muriel Souphom: a remote. Charlene Gilles: quite easily too if you let it fall. I've got a mobile phone myself which is titanium and it does Muriel Souphom: Yeah, Charlene Gilles: mark very easily Muriel Souphom: yeah. Charlene Gilles: if you drop it. I was just wondering if we make the basic mould out of plastic but have like a rubber cover that goes Muriel Souphom: Rubber, Charlene Gilles: over, Muriel Souphom: yeah. Charlene Gilles: that would give the spongy feel, that also allows us to kind of have different fasciae Muriel Souphom: And you can Charlene Gilles: for Muriel Souphom: peel Charlene Gilles: the phone. Muriel Souphom: them off yeah. Carol Moore: So Vera Lipscomb: Yeah. Carol Moore: instead of the fascia that comes off being plastic, the fascia that comes Charlene Gilles: Like Carol Moore: off Charlene Gilles: a rubber Carol Moore: would Charlene Gilles: sleeve Carol Moore: be the rubber, Charlene Gilles: almost, yeah. Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: Something Carol Moore: like those Vera Lipscomb: like Carol Moore: pens that you get with the grip, Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Charlene Gilles: Mm. Vera Lipscomb: Alright. Carol Moore: that you can Vera Lipscomb: That Carol Moore: you can Vera Lipscomb: could Carol Moore: pull Vera Lipscomb: be a good Carol Moore: that Vera Lipscomb: idea. Carol Moore: off. Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: Hmm. Vera Lipscomb: It Carol Moore: Okay. Vera Lipscomb: could it would be comfortable to hold on also. Carol Moore: Mm. Charlene Gilles: Very Muriel Souphom: T Charlene Gilles: cheap way of changing the look of it and people can just buy a new one Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Charlene Gilles: if they want to. Carol Moore: Well that's been really popular with mobile phones so I don't Charlene Gilles: Mm. Carol Moore: see why not. Charlene Gilles: Yeah. Muriel Souphom: Also the Carol Moore: 'Kay. Muriel Souphom: just just going back to the interface designs with the buttons, the I kno we were planning to do some sort of touch Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: screen. Now what I was saying before about instead of having you could have just a bare P_C_B_ circuit board and I'm sure you could probably get it in different colours and so just by touching it with your finger it'd make the connection over if you had them close enough, that would be one option. Um the second option th they offer rubber buttons, but I thought that an L_C_D_ type of screen 'cause one they're incredibly thin um and don't take up much space, two they you can have them in a sort of array and you can arrange the buttons on the screen in a sort of set thing and you could have them like a touch Vera Lipscomb: Sorry I didn't Muriel Souphom: display. Vera Lipscomb: get the last part, you're talking of Muriel Souphom: Uh what what Vera Lipscomb: Just what you said I I didn't get the uh meaning of it completely, you're saying Muriel Souphom: Oh Vera Lipscomb: like Muriel Souphom: on the on the L_C_D_ screen Vera Lipscomb: Uh-huh. Muriel Souphom: you could becau you could fit it the problem with it basically is that it's flat and so you can't do lots of curve Vera Lipscomb: Okay. Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: curved things with it, but um you can you wouldn't have with the L_C_D_ you'd have the wires coming off, you wouldn't have that with the with the L_C_D_, you'd only have that with the printed Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: circuit board. With W Charlene Gilles: I Muriel Souphom: also Charlene Gilles: don't s Muriel Souphom: with Charlene Gilles: sorry Muriel Souphom: the Charlene Gilles: to interrupt, I don't see why the curved thing is a problem, if we for example had a shell, Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: Oh Charlene Gilles: once Carol Moore: it would be Charlene Gilles: we Carol Moore: flat Charlene Gilles: open that Carol Moore: inside. Charlene Gilles: yeah, so Muriel Souphom: You Charlene Gilles: it'd Muriel Souphom: could Charlene Gilles: be Muriel Souphom: have Charlene Gilles: f Muriel Souphom: a Charlene Gilles: yeah, Muriel Souphom: flat screen inside, Charlene Gilles: yeah. Carol Moore: Mm. Muriel Souphom: yeah, Charlene Gilles: Have Muriel Souphom: but I'm Charlene Gilles: I Muriel Souphom: just Charlene Gilles: misunderstood Muriel Souphom: wondering whether Charlene Gilles: you? Muriel Souphom: we want an L_C_D_ screen inside. It wouldn't be like full colour, it would just be black and white, Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: but there'd be touch touch buttons, so you Vera Lipscomb: 'Kay. Muriel Souphom: wouldn't be pressing down on 'em, w or we could have rubber buttons which are made of this material which is anti-R_S_I_. Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: I think it would be good to have a contrast between, if the whole thing is gonna Muriel Souphom: Is Carol Moore: be Muriel Souphom: rubber. Carol Moore: this rubber thing it would be good to open it up and see something quite fancy looking Charlene Gilles: Yeah. Carol Moore: inside. Muriel Souphom: Mm. Carol Moore: I mean Muriel Souphom: Yeah I hadn't I Carol Moore: Uh Muriel Souphom: hadn't really thought of Charlene Gilles: I just Muriel Souphom: that Charlene Gilles: had another idea, Muriel Souphom: to be Charlene Gilles: I don't Muriel Souphom: honest. Charlene Gilles: know if it helps with that, but just to do with the R_S_I_. Is it possible, just as an option, when we open it up, people can use their fingers to press the button, or we have inside like a small pointer thing Muriel Souphom: Yeah Charlene Gilles: when Muriel Souphom: you Charlene Gilles: people Muriel Souphom: could, Charlene Gilles: want Muriel Souphom: you Charlene Gilles: to. Muriel Souphom: could have some sort of stylus Carol Moore: Like one Muriel Souphom: that you Carol Moore: of Muriel Souphom: could Carol Moore: the palm Muriel Souphom: pull Carol Moore: pop Muriel Souphom: out Carol Moore: thing. Muriel Souphom: but Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: I I think they could get a bit easily lost, Charlene Gilles: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: Absolutely, Muriel Souphom: 'cause I had Vera Lipscomb: f Charlene Gilles: They're Carol Moore: It Charlene Gilles: easy Carol Moore: would have Charlene Gilles: to Carol Moore: to Charlene Gilles: replace Carol Moore: be attached. Charlene Gilles: as Vera Lipscomb: for Charlene Gilles: well, Vera Lipscomb: somebody who Charlene Gilles: cheap. Vera Lipscomb: very often, Muriel Souphom: Hmm. Vera Lipscomb: if he would a person who switches channels very often or does use a particular function very often Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: will find it very irritating to use a Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Vera Lipscomb: and he might spoil the touch-pad very fast compared to a button like, Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: if Charlene Gilles: Mm. Vera Lipscomb: you keep punching with an pointer or whatever. Muriel Souphom: Yeah Charlene Gilles: Yeah Muriel Souphom: okay. Charlene Gilles: just a thought they wouldn't actually need one and they could use anything they've got, couldn't they? A pencil or a pen, so they wouldn't really need a Carol Moore: Okay, we'll talk about that so if you finish your and Muriel Souphom: Yeah Carol Moore: we'll come Muriel Souphom: that's Carol Moore: back to that. Muriel Souphom: yeah that Carol Moore: That's Muriel Souphom: that's Carol Moore: you, Muriel Souphom: the end of m my Vera Lipscomb: And Carol Moore: right Vera Lipscomb: just one Carol Moore: okay. Vera Lipscomb: small question before like you are, regarding the circuit, since we are hav having a flip-top, we Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: can customise the two circuits for different type of buttons like we are keeping the standard buttons on the top and Muriel Souphom: Uh Vera Lipscomb: the more Muriel Souphom: yeah. Vera Lipscomb: complex buttons under this thing, so we can divide the circuit like you know. Muriel Souphom: Yeah yeah that that would be fairly simple, I mean you'd Vera Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: you'd actually have two separate you'd Vera Lipscomb: Okay. Muriel Souphom: have two separate circuit boards but they'd be joined by wires or Vera Lipscomb: Okay. Muriel Souphom: like some cabling between them, Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: 'cause in the in the actual flip bit you'd have some linking. Charlene Gilles: another point while it occurs to Charlene Gilles, it kind of applies to both our designers here, so I'm not sure how it Muriel Souphom: Mm. Charlene Gilles: would fit in. If we flip open, now you know how you've got some mirrors in nightclubs that are mirrors when you turn to them and you turn away and it gives like an advertising display, you seen those? Carol Moore: No. Charlene Gilles: And they kind of respond to the turn of your body. Is it possible that when we open our flip-top shell it's a little compact mirror and when you press a button it then goes onto the phone display th uh the remote control display thing. Carol Moore: We're Muriel Souphom: Um. Carol Moore: marketing to guys as much as we are to women. Charlene Gilles: They don't look at themselves? Just a thought. Carol Moore: Well it's a remote control, you were sitting watching T_V_ Charlene Gilles: Yeah. Carol Moore: are you gonna want to sort of open it and say Charlene Gilles: I Carol Moore: oh Charlene Gilles: know what Carol Moore: shit Charlene Gilles: you mean, Carol Moore: I should Charlene Gilles: it's Carol Moore: go Charlene Gilles: with Carol Moore: and Charlene Gilles: us Carol Moore: have Charlene Gilles: using Carol Moore: a Charlene Gilles: the ideas Carol Moore: shower Charlene Gilles: for a mobile Carol Moore: and Charlene Gilles: ph Carol Moore: do my hair before I put the T_ Charlene Gilles: it's with us using the ideas for mobile phones I kinda got Carol Moore: Yeah, Charlene Gilles: sidetracked Carol Moore: no, Charlene Gilles: onto that I think, okay. Carol Moore: no. Charlene Gilles: trying to think of other features we can build in that wouldn't cost too much Carol Moore: Mm. Charlene Gilles: but maybe we'll leave that one on the side. Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Charlene Gilles: 'Kay. Carol Moore: Okay. Muriel Souphom: I mean you can you could do it, you could have a 'cause if you if you just put the full charge through an L_C_D_ display it'll completely blank it out, Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: but I don't know if you could get any mirror effect on it, Charlene Gilles: Oh I think Muriel Souphom: I'm not sure Charlene Gilles: forget Muriel Souphom: about Charlene Gilles: about the mirror that was just a very quick passing thought yeah. Carol Moore: Okay, okay. Vera Lipscomb: Okay, uh would like to share something which I did here. First thing is uh basically on design we just took the input from the previous meeting, especially from the marketing and industrial design, to check on the customer needs and feasibility. Second is we checked into competitors, the picture here shows one of the standard models offered by competitors here. So y you generally see there's not much of variety Carol Moore: Mm. Vera Lipscomb: and like marketing team said uh, people need trendy, they are bored of black and white. So Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: you generally see rectangular shape, very monotonous kind of designs here. And uh second thing is there's too much of confusion here. Carol Moore: Mm. Vera Lipscomb: No particular remote is standard. Like, some some people have a Here you see this? This is on a I I I found th that uh only common feature is the ch uh channel control and uh volume control, rest other buttons, they are in a very disorganized and they are not consistent th with other models and all. Carol Moore: Okay. Vera Lipscomb: Okay, and second as already discussed with William, we are going to have m maybe a G_ G_U_I_ interface in the Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: f in the middle of the flip-top Charlene Gilles: Sorry what Vera Lipscomb: and Charlene Gilles: does that Carol Moore: Which Charlene Gilles: stand Carol Moore: means Vera Lipscomb: g Charlene Gilles: for? Vera Lipscomb: graphic user interface basically Charlene Gilles: Okay. Vera Lipscomb: which is what we d do in computer, have Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: icons or touch pad or whatever, which Muriel Souphom: If Vera Lipscomb: is Muriel Souphom: you if yeah if you have like buttons that appear on the screen in this L_C_D_ screen. Vera Lipscomb: Like you have on a l uh icons or something y you have is a good example of G_U_I_ graphic user interface. Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: Okay. Vera Lipscomb: So basically not point or click Press any particular device, he just has to click on that particular icon Carol Moore: Okay. Vera Lipscomb: to simplify. And on the top m repetitive buttons which are like volume or channel changing and all could be on the pointing device, that means the use of button. So he need not use a pointer to keep changing the channel if a person is frequent surfer. Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Vera Lipscomb: So we are having a combination of boards, so f on the s simpler board, on the top we have this button, rubber buttons, to keep frequently changing the channels. Carol Moore: Can we swap that round so th that the ones that we use all the time are on the bottom part? 'Cause if you're thinking about holding it you would be using your thumbs to press, just like a mobile phone. Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Charlene Gilles: No you'd hold it you don't if you flip it open then you'd be Wouldn't you? Isn't that the idea? You us if we just use the shell as an example Carol Moore: Yeah. Charlene Gilles: again, you open that, you've got your L_C_D_ display there and you've got the buttons there so you're holding Muriel Souphom: Yeah, Charlene Gilles: it in Carol Moore: That's Charlene Gilles: the palm Carol Moore: what Charlene Gilles: of your Carol Moore: I was Charlene Gilles: hand, Muriel Souphom: yeah Carol Moore: just saying, Charlene Gilles: yeah. Muriel Souphom: but you Carol Moore: and Vera Lipscomb: But Muriel Souphom: can Carol Moore: then Muriel Souphom: do Carol Moore: have Muriel Souphom: it with your Carol Moore: the Muriel Souphom: thumb li Carol Moore: and then have the L_C_D_ at the top Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Vera Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: and then be able to touch that for the Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: other Vera Lipscomb: Okay Carol Moore: controls, Vera Lipscomb: and you mean to Carol Moore: so Vera Lipscomb: the Carol Moore: have the um the volume and the programme, things like that, Vera Lipscomb: And the lower distance. Carol Moore: on the lower Vera Lipscomb: Oh f Carol Moore: side. Vera Lipscomb: perfect. Charlene Gilles: Hmm. Carol Moore: Okay. Vera Lipscomb: So the findings are too many cluttered buttons. Repetition of certain but buttons which I already explained, example the volume and channel control buttons. All are confusing and in inconsistent. Okay we had a latest finding of voice recognition, there was a mail which mentions that our division has developed a new speech recognition s feature. We have to check into the for financial f feasibility whether we can incorporate it this at a low cost, but for like we had g um s response from the customers that they would like to have the feature of finding Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: it. So it could be like, where is the remote, and the remote answers I am here. Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: Some kind of thing or it gives a b bleep sound or some kind of sound Charlene Gilles: Mm. Vera Lipscomb: this can be incorporated this would be more uh you can say trendy also? And technologically innovative also. Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: So we we can check into the financial feasibility of incorporating this. My personal preferences would be like, as already uh marketing department, they want something to do with fruit so I wouldn't say the design should be like a fruit, but yeah we can take inspiration from fruit colours, like the vibrant colours, Charlene Gilles: Mm. Vera Lipscomb: uh red chilli Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: uh tomato red or whatever and second thing is cer certain standard buttons we should have, like for example, i if you see the previous slide uh Muriel Souphom: Well, yeah we Vera Lipscomb: I think most of the users would now be well acquainted with this cer central pattern, here, Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: so we we we would not change h that particular pattern because i this is the most consistent thing in all remote controls. Carol Moore: I can't see that, is that play and stop and things? Vera Lipscomb: This is central one, the one you Carol Moore: Or is that volume and Vera Lipscomb: yeah volume and Carol Moore: channel? Vera Lipscomb: channel. So keep that m that standardised because that's the most common feature across all models, if you look at all the models, it's here. This and voice recognition. Carol Moore: Okay. Right. Okay. Um I'm not sure how long we've got left, but we need to make a decision about um the things we've discussed. So, we agree on Do we agree on the battery? Charlene Gilles: Kinetic? Vera Lipscomb: The kinetic. Carol Moore: Yeah. Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: Um, that means that there's no function for li the port, you know that it sits in, then pressing Muriel Souphom: Mm. Carol Moore: the button then having so we could incorporate voice recognition Muriel Souphom: Yeah Carol Moore: for the Muriel Souphom: I Carol Moore: finding Muriel Souphom: think Carol Moore: it. Muriel Souphom: I mean Carol Moore: It's Muriel Souphom: if Carol Moore: a bi i it's like a g it's a gadget, it's a Muriel Souphom: Yeah it is it is Carol Moore: selling Muriel Souphom: qui Carol Moore: point. Muriel Souphom: it's quite a cool feature to have and also if they've got it if they've got these parts already in stock, Vera Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: then it won't be cheap to re-manufacture them, uh or it will be cheap sorry to re-manufacture them. So do you reckon that's a good idea that, where's the remote, I'm here thing? I think that would be quite Charlene Gilles: Mm. Muriel Souphom: fun. Carol Moore: I think the only I think the only pitfall that we would have would be how much it's going to cost Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: if that means we have to cut down somewhere else, but I think pretty much we've used cheap Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: relatively cheap and Charlene Gilles: Mm. Carol Moore: simple things. Muriel Souphom: Yeah Carol Moore: The Muriel Souphom: to Carol Moore: L_C_D_'s Muriel Souphom: s Carol Moore: not cheap. Muriel Souphom: th well Charlene Gilles: Hmm. Muriel Souphom: it's it's not as expensive as it would be if it was full colour 'cause if we've just got a black and white one, I mean they use them in calculators so. Carol Moore: Yeah, okay. Vera Lipscomb: Maybe we could start with the black and white. Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: That Carol Moore: And you Vera Lipscomb: that Carol Moore: could Vera Lipscomb: way we could Carol Moore: yeah. Vera Lipscomb: upgrade later. Charlene Gilles: Yeah, Carol Moore: Okay. Charlene Gilles: we talked about Vera Lipscomb: Mm. Charlene Gilles: kinetic charging, we've deci seem to have decided on that, did we decide on double A_ or triple A_ batteries? Vera Lipscomb: Mm. Muriel Souphom: Well you cou um. Carol Moore: Do you want like a back-up? Charlene Gilles: No, one of the decisions we had to make was whether we had double A_ or triple A_ batteries 'cause they've still got to be charged this way haven't Muriel Souphom: K no the Charlene Gilles: they? Muriel Souphom: kinetic Charlene Gilles: I Muriel Souphom: ones Charlene Gilles: oh I Muriel Souphom: come Charlene Gilles: see. Muriel Souphom: come with um a sort of w watch a battery that goes in a watch. Charlene Gilles: Right, okay, got you. Muriel Souphom: So it's a lot smaller, so it would Charlene Gilles: Got you on that okay, didn't realise. Carol Moore: Um, okay so we've got battery. The inside components is pretty standardised across the board isn't it? Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: Yeah. Carol Moore: So there's not a really a decision to be made there, um. The buttons what did you give us as our The bare-board L_C_D_ Muriel Souphom: Yeah Carol Moore: or Muriel Souphom: the well I think were we're going for the L_C_D_ on that one, on the buttons, on the on the on on the top one Carol Moore: On Muriel Souphom: we're Carol Moore: the top Muriel Souphom: gonna Carol Moore: one okay you've got the touch Muriel Souphom: yeah. Carol Moore: okay and then Muriel Souphom: On the bottom we were gonna have the rubber, the rubber ones, the anti-R_S_I_ ones. Carol Moore: Okay, okay. Charlene Gilles: Sorry could you repeat that last part? Muriel Souphom: Um, okay on Charlene Gilles: L_C_D_ Muriel Souphom: we've got the flip Charlene Gilles: screen. Muriel Souphom: the flip-screen, Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Muriel Souphom: the top one is gonna be the L_C_D_ and the bottom one is gonna be the rubberised buttons. Charlene Gilles: Okay. Vera Lipscomb: And for the sorry. Carol Moore: No, it's fine. Vera Lipscomb: For the body design I think plastic, Muriel Souphom: Plastic, Vera Lipscomb: uh w yeah Muriel Souphom: okay. Vera Lipscomb: we could Carol Moore: For Vera Lipscomb: use Carol Moore: the Vera Lipscomb: the Carol Moore: inside. Vera Lipscomb: body, for the inside and Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: uh rubber as a padding or for the grip, something like to add to the design. Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm, so we decided on a rubber casing for the plastic shell, Vera Lipscomb: Plast right. Charlene Gilles: a variety Carol Moore: Oh I think Charlene Gilles: of designs, Carol Moore: so, I Charlene Gilles: okay. Carol Moore: think so. Charlene Gilles: and it is just uh although it's rubberised and spongy, apart from that we're just going to go for sort of vegetable and fruit colours, we're not gonna try and make it actually a vegetable or fruit design or anything else, Muriel Souphom: Mm Charlene Gilles: like Muriel Souphom: no. Charlene Gilles: a shell that we discussed, Carol Moore: No Charlene Gilles: just Carol Moore: I think Charlene Gilles: go for the colours. Carol Moore: I Vera Lipscomb: It's Carol Moore: we don't wanna be tacky if we've got Charlene Gilles: Okay. Carol Moore: a kind of different shape anyway um the fact the m the material that we would be using would be cheap, so we could make it red, we could make it um psychedelic, you know, we could make Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: it black and white zebra stripes, but that's not really what we're focusing on, what we're focusing on is the m you know Charlene Gilles: The feel. Carol Moore: yes. So we could Charlene Gilles: 'Kay. Carol Moore: just pick anything. Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Is that going to be this image I've got in my head of something kind of shaped like that, maybe about that size, made of plastic, fits into the palm of the hand, rubberised cover that's spongy. Is that really going to fit fancy look and feel which was the major thing that people wanted, market research, is that Carol Moore: It's Charlene Gilles: fancy? Vera Lipscomb: Uh Carol Moore: just Vera Lipscomb: I Carol Moore: different Vera Lipscomb: it's different. Carol Moore: it's just different from everything else and I mean, I'm trying to imagine um clean looking Charlene Gilles: Mm. Carol Moore: houses, sort of beige and black Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: um so you either want something that goes with that, which is what's Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: on the market anyway, Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: or you want something that contrasts as Muriel Souphom: Mm. Carol Moore: you know like you get clocks now that Charlene Gilles: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: are more of a talking point than an actual clock Charlene Gilles: Yeah. Carol Moore: because they're so interesting Charlene Gilles: I'm just kind of pushing Carol Moore: and Charlene Gilles: at that to see if you came out with anything else, but I mean I totally agree. We looked at those remotes, I mean they are kind of anonymous, very similar looking things. Carol Moore: Mm. Charlene Gilles: This would definitely be different enough, I just wondered if anybody could come up with something even more Carol Moore: And you would just have an across the b you would have so many different options that you could do, you could have um a plain black one, you could have sparkly pink glittery Charlene Gilles: Well the thing Carol Moore: ones Charlene Gilles: is the rubberised Carol Moore: for your little Charlene Gilles: covers are going to be s relatively cheap to produce, that if in a year's time we we get feedback from the design fairs that show something else is coming I mean it's so easy for us Carol Moore: Mm. Charlene Gilles: to just produce that and it can be slipped on, Carol Moore: And Vera Lipscomb: Right. Carol Moore: ones Charlene Gilles: which is another Carol Moore: tha Charlene Gilles: beauty of it. Carol Moore: ones that have rubbery spikes y you know, Muriel Souphom: You Carol Moore: you Muriel Souphom: can Carol Moore: could just Muriel Souphom: you can Carol Moore: go Muriel Souphom: just Carol Moore: so Vera Lipscomb: Acupressure, Carol Moore: far Vera Lipscomb: you Carol Moore: with Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Vera Lipscomb: could Carol Moore: it, Vera Lipscomb: talk of acupressures. Carol Moore: like a puffer fish, you could just, you could take it wherever, so I think that's quite a Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: flexible Vera Lipscomb: And finally Carol Moore: thing. Vera Lipscomb: the body should be retouchable, may maybe ch you can change the body or the case casing the case outside, Carol Moore: Yes. Vera Lipscomb: it should be moulded it with the design in such a way you can change it every time. Muriel Souphom: Yeah, yeah j with these rubber these rubberised ca not Carol Moore: Mm. Muriel Souphom: the actual uh plastic outside Vera Lipscomb: Okay. Muriel Souphom: case, just the rubber Vera Lipscomb: The rubber. Carol Moore: Yeah. Muriel Souphom: thing that goes round the outside. Carol Moore: Okay we've got five minutes, um, or that might've been up Charlene Gilles: Mm, Carol Moore: for Vera Lipscomb: Fine. Carol Moore: a while. Charlene Gilles: so can I just recap uh Sarah, Vera Lipscomb: Yeah. Charlene Gilles: for the decisions that we've made, kinetic charging, the watch-type batteries, um L_C_D_ display on th the top side of the flip top, rubberised buttons on the bottom side, we're gonna use fruit and vegetable colours for the rubber cover, the case itself is plastic. That's how far we've got, what else do we have to add to our decisions here? Vera Lipscomb: Fine, uh we were talking of voice recognition also Charlene Gilles: Mm. Carol Moore: Mm-hmm. Vera Lipscomb: because that we are not for how to look it uh remote control if it's lost. So, Charlene Gilles: Yes, Vera Lipscomb: are Charlene Gilles: it was Vera Lipscomb: we Charlene Gilles: just, Vera Lipscomb: looking Charlene Gilles: there was Vera Lipscomb: at Charlene Gilles: just Vera Lipscomb: voice? Charlene Gilles: a cost issue with that, but it's a good idea we just need to check on the cost, Vera Lipscomb: Or Charlene Gilles: is Vera Lipscomb: maybe Charlene Gilles: that right? Vera Lipscomb: like uh William was suggesting in the last thing some devices you put on key chains. For Muriel Souphom: Oh Vera Lipscomb: l Muriel Souphom: yeah, yeah Vera Lipscomb: yeah, Muriel Souphom: the whistle ones, yeah. Vera Lipscomb: the whistle. So we can if financially voice recognition is not feasible we could go for a whistle. Charlene Gilles: And incorporating the company logo? Vera Lipscomb: Yep. Carol Moore: Have you Vera Lipscomb: Uh sorry I didn't mention this, but we'll be incorporating in the design. Charlene Gilles: Mm. 'Cause Carol Moore: Okay. Charlene Gilles: I took it from the feedback you gave in the last meeting from y from y your report, it's not just a case of having a little R_R_ hidden somewhere, they do want it to be obvious that it's our product don't Carol Moore: Well they Charlene Gilles: they? Carol Moore: do, but I think we can Charlene Gilles: Since it's Carol Moore: you Charlene Gilles: the only Carol Moore: could Charlene Gilles: one of its kind on the market Carol Moore: well Charlene Gilles: it's obviously Carol Moore: it is, Charlene Gilles: gonna Carol Moore: it Charlene Gilles: be ours. Carol Moore: is, I think you just address that with um advertising. Charlene Gilles: Yeah. Carol Moore: Um, you associate the name with the individual product Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: that it is Charlene Gilles: Okay. Carol Moore: and that does the work for you. Obviously it'll have a logo on it just like everything, but everything else has a logo on it. The point is that it's got to stand out somehow differently Charlene Gilles: Okay. Carol Moore: but I think it does, without that so I'm not worried about that. Charlene Gilles: Okay. Did we I know at the last meeting we spoke about a beeper, I think that was you talked about a beeper for a location, have we just rejected that in favour of voice recognition then? Carol Moore: Depending on how i Muriel Souphom: Yeah, depending on the expense of it. Carol Moore: I mean we've got this memo saying that it's something that the company's looking into, so Muriel Souphom: And they've got in stock, so yeah. Carol Moore: um that seems to make sense, but if it turns out that it's hugely expensive we'd have to cut down somewhere else, then it's worth thinking about. But I think we'll find out more about cost Muriel Souphom: Yeah. Carol Moore: afterwards. Right Muriel Souphom: Okay. Carol Moore: I'm going to wrap it up there. Vera Lipscomb: Fine. Carol Moore: I got a end meeting now message on my Vera Lipscomb: Mm-hmm. Carol Moore: mo Muriel Souphom: Did it? Carol Moore: yeah Vera Lipscomb: Yeah. Carol Moore: so. Vera Lipscomb: Again Carol Moore: Um Vera Lipscomb: a questionnaire huh? Carol Moore: so I think we've probably got it Charlene Gilles: You Carol Moore: says, Charlene Gilles: got to go through. Carol Moore: closing we have forty minutes so I um think we've probably got about that time before we come back. It's either that or we only had forty minutes to discuss what we just discussed and don't know how long that took. Vera Lipscomb: I think we are pretty going in a clear direction now. Carol Moore: Is everyone happy? Okay.

Carol Moore reviewed the decisions from the previous meeting. Charlene Gilles made a presentation on trend watching, including trends in user requirements and trends in fashion. Muriel Souphom presented all the components of the device and announced that several of the features already discussed would not be available. He suggested substituting a kinetic battery for the rechargeable batteries and using a combination of rubber and plastic for the materials. Vera Lipscomb presented his main interface design, which included buttons for the most frequently used features and a graphic user interface on the LCD screen for other functions, to keep frequently used features easy to use. He announced that speech recognition was still an option to consider, depending on price. Carol Moore then began a discussion to decide what was going into the final design. It was decided that a kinetic battery would be used in place of a rechargeable battery, that the remote will feature an LCD screen and rubber casing and rubber buttons, and that interchangeable rubber covers in fruit colors will be available. Speech recognition may be included if it is not too costly.

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Louise Creech: If you leave them on the whole time you get to look like a noodle the whole time. Donna Young: Hmm. Carrie Drew: Is that someone's? Louise Creech: Is that. Donna Young: Thank you. Louise Creech: three, apparently. Donna Young: Hmm. Hmm. Louise Creech: Okay, you all Carrie Drew: Okay. Louise Creech: switched on. Donna Young: Yep Carrie Drew too. Louise Creech: I presume we're good to go. Okay, um minutes um we decided to use a kinetic charger, Donna Young: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: standard chip, um 'cause it can come in various different sizes, it wasn't uh uh gonna be a problem factor. We wanted a stand-by function. The case material is gonna be soft, rubbery, changeable. Um buttons with a combination of L_C_D_ and rubber according to the design. Um bright funky designs inspired by fruit, keeping with the hip kind of feel. Um and to try and incorporate voice recognition software into our design until we can find out more about the cost of things like that. Um and the rubber buttons that we'll use will be anti-R_S_I_. Okay? Prototype presentation. Deanna Dedeke: Is that for us? Louise Creech: I think Donna Young: Yep. Louise Creech: that would be you. Deanna Dedeke: Okay. Donna Young: Carrie Drew and William worked on a prototype, and I think William is going to make a p presentation on that. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah shall, I show? Donna Young: Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: I'll show. Though do you do you wanna Louise Creech: Make Deanna Dedeke: do you Louise Creech: sure Deanna Dedeke: wanna Louise Creech: the Donna Young: I Deanna Dedeke: sh Louise Creech: camera's Donna Young: can hold it like Deanna Dedeke: do you wanna hold it and I'll Donna Young: Yeah, Deanna Dedeke: I'll Donna Young: so Deanna Dedeke: show you the presentation. Can I just nick Louise Creech: Yes, Deanna Dedeke: your Louise Creech: yes you can. Wait a second, I'll get it out. Deanna Dedeke: Whoa. Donna Young: It Louise Creech: Um Donna Young: looks Deanna Dedeke: Going a bit crazy over here. Donna Young: crazy. Louise Creech: Okay. Deanna Dedeke: Thank you. Louise Creech: You Donna Young: Um not now. Louise Creech: should have one of Donna Young: Oh. Louise Creech: those things and you can just take it off. Donna Young: Yeah. Louise Creech: Ta-da. Donna Young: Oh, where are the hinges? Deanna Dedeke: Okay, so this is Louise Creech: Right. Deanna Dedeke: our look and feel presentation, Louise Creech: Mm Deanna Dedeke: the Louise Creech: 'kay. Deanna Dedeke: final our final presentation. And we'll first look at the exterior of what we've uh come up with over there. Um Donna Young: 'Kay. Deanna Dedeke: It's Donna Young: You able Deanna Dedeke: have Donna Young: to look? Deanna Dedeke: a a plastic body Donna Young: Yep. Deanna Dedeke: um with a sort of standard colour, either we're thinking some something fairly neutral like a a white or a light blue or something. This is underneath the rubberised Louise Creech: Mm-hmm. Deanna Dedeke: the rubberised uh outer casing um which there'd be sort of a wide choice they would be attached, but we can we can come up with that. Louise Creech: Okay. Deanna Dedeke: Um the um wide choice of colours and sort of patterns, so you've got you've got a lot of customisation with it. Um it's obviously an a sort of clam-shell design and uh the um the top L_C_D_ screen that you can see that would b would be sort of um how do you say, Donna Young: The Deanna Dedeke: it's Donna Young: black and white touch screen Deanna Dedeke: yeah Donna Young: wherein Deanna Dedeke: yeah, it would Donna Young: people Deanna Dedeke: be sort Donna Young: can Deanna Dedeke: of inset into the into Louise Creech: Mm. Deanna Dedeke: the top Louise Creech: So Deanna Dedeke: and Louise Creech: it's Deanna Dedeke: the Louise Creech: flush. Deanna Dedeke: buttons at the bottom Donna Young: Right. Deanna Dedeke: would d so so it'll fully close flat. Louise Creech: Oh right, okay, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Louise Creech: yeah. Deanna Dedeke: yeah. And working on the inside we've um already said d decided on the kinetic batteries, which actually, thinking about it now, could y could also probably attach to the flipping open and shut as well, so that you could probably get Louise Creech: So Deanna Dedeke: a Louise Creech: put Deanna Dedeke: bit Louise Creech: it Deanna Dedeke: of Louise Creech: in the top section rather than the bottom sections, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: 'cause Donna Young: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: it's the top Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: part that's okay. Deanna Dedeke: Um we decided that um the voice recognition system, it did actually say on the email that they were sort of coming in and they were fairly easy to get a-hold of, so we presumed that they'd also be quite cheap. So you'd have something like where you'd shout out, where where is the remote and it'll shout back, I'm here, or something. And Carrie Drew: Or something. Deanna Dedeke: then yeah. It wo it won't shout out I'm here or something. It'll just shout out I'm here, Louise Creech: Okay. Donna Young: 'Kay. Deanna Dedeke: or something Louise Creech: I'm under Deanna Dedeke: to Louise Creech: the sofa. Deanna Dedeke: similar effect. Donna Young: Ah Louise Creech: Or, that would be too complicated. Donna Young: oka Deanna Dedeke: Uh yeah, if it was going like I d well tha that could be something for next time, maybe. You can have a remote that tells you exactly where it is. Um the standard, there's be a standard transmission with the T_V_ using using all the standard chips that we've talked about. Louise Creech: Infrared. Deanna Dedeke: Um it would it would have obviously 'cause it's split over two two different layers, it would need two separate P_C_B_s, so it would be joined at the hinge through some sort of cabling. And uh because, obviously, all T_V_s use this, the same infrared medium, we'd just be using using the same thing to transmit the data. And the infrared um sender would be on the on one of the bot the bottom layer, just at the front of the we haven't I don't think we actually Louise Creech: Like Deanna Dedeke: put it on. Louise Creech: here. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, yeah, something like that. Louise Creech: Okay. Donna Young: Infrared could be Louise Creech: Actually, Donna Young: here Louise Creech: no, Donna Young: also. Louise Creech: it would be it would have to Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Louise Creech: be on Deanna Dedeke: on Louise Creech: the Donna Young: Yeah, Deanna Dedeke: the front Donna Young: here. Deanna Dedeke: on the Louise Creech: on Deanna Dedeke: front Louise Creech: the front. Deanna Dedeke: side of that, yeah. Louise Creech: Oh right, yeah, okay, Donna Young: So when Louise Creech: yeah, Donna Young: it's Louise Creech: I've got Donna Young: even Louise Creech: you. Donna Young: if it's open here, the Louise Creech: It's Donna Young: signals Deanna Dedeke: So Louise Creech: still Deanna Dedeke: when Donna Young: would Louise Creech: pointing, Donna Young: go. Deanna Dedeke: you've actually got Louise Creech: yes. Deanna Dedeke: it open, it would be Donna Young: Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: facing the T_V_. Louise Creech: Yeah, that would make sense. Deanna Dedeke: And then finally um on to the interface. The top screen, as we said, is would be an inset um black and white L_C_D_ s touch screen which Donna Young: This one right here. Deanna Dedeke: yeah would uh have all of all of the the available functions for for the remote on it, uh whereas the bot the bottom screen would just contain the standard buttons, like the vo volume up and down, channel up and down, power on and off, Louise Creech: Okay. Deanna Dedeke: and uh things to that effect. And now we've we also decided on the inside, we could possibly either have um some some kind of sort of bezzled uh logo on it, or something inset, or maybe an engraving of the logo on the top. Donna Young: Which Louise Creech: But Donna Young: is Louise Creech: not interfering with Deanna Dedeke: No Louise Creech: the Deanna Dedeke: d Louise Creech: outside Deanna Dedeke: not Louise Creech: kind Donna Young: No. Deanna Dedeke: not Louise Creech: of Deanna Dedeke: actually. Louise Creech: look of the product Deanna Dedeke: No, Louise Creech: once Deanna Dedeke: not Louise Creech: it's Deanna Dedeke: uh interfering with l the whole look of Donna Young: Look up Deanna Dedeke: the Donna Young: to it. Deanna Dedeke: the Louise Creech: Okay. Deanna Dedeke: product when it's uh on the thing. And finally that's how we put the fashion back into electronics, as Louise Creech: Thank Deanna Dedeke: that Louise Creech: you Deanna Dedeke: is Louise Creech: very much. Deanna Dedeke: that's Donna Young: Yay. Deanna Dedeke: the company logo. Louise Creech: Wrapping it all up, Carrie Drew: Well done. Louise Creech: okay. Um I've now got evaluation criteria. Carrie Drew: Certainly. Donna Young: So this is the one. Sorry. Louise Creech: It's to be presented. Deanna Dedeke: There Carrie Drew: Logged in? Thank you. Deanna Dedeke: you go. Carrie Drew: Oops. Louise Creech: Okay. Donna Young: Evaluation. Donna Young: Mm um I I think this is chip. Louise Creech: It's quite similar to what it was before, though. Carrie Drew: Okay. Louise Creech: Sorry. Carrie Drew: This stage of the evaluation is really for us as a team to evaluate if we have now got a product specification and prototype design that meets the the criteria that we got from our market research. So this is the first stage of the evaluation. Now, the collection of the criteria, as we saw in our meeting, was based on the user requirements and trends found in the marketing reports and marketing strategy of our company. So it's what we've discussed in the last meeting, are we actually meeting those trends and requirements? Now the findings that we came up with, just a recap, are here. The criteria that we want in this remote control are a fancy look and feel, technological innovation, it should be easy to use, it should incorporate current fashion trends, and those the two main ones, they were the spongy texture Donna Young: Mm-hmm. Carrie Drew: and the fruit and vegetable strong design colours. The design should minimise R_S_I_ and be easy to locate and we were still um uh slightly ambivalent as to whether to use voice recognition there, though that did seem to be the favoured strategy, but there was also, on the sideline, the though of maybe having a beeper function. Okay, so we can come back to that slide, if you don't have a note of those. I'll just show you how we're going to evaluate our own feedback to this, to what we have so far. We're going to use a seven point scale, where one is true and seven is false. We look at each of those criteria that I've just mentioned, I'll call that slide back up, and I will just Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: do a preliminary rating of all those criteria on the whiteboard here. Donna Young: Mm-hmm. Carrie Drew: Does that seem clear? Any questions there? Donna Young: Ah, it's perfect. Carrie Drew: So we're going to look at these Donna Young: Is it Carrie Drew: crite Donna Young: everybody is going to evaluate, or just the Carrie Drew: Yes, Donna Young: Market okay. Carrie Drew: we're going to come to w we'll discuss each one Louise Creech: Mm-hmm. Carrie Drew: and we'll come to a consensus rating between one and seven. Louise Creech: Okay. Carrie Drew: Is that okay? Donna Young: 'Kay. Carrie Drew: One is true, seven is false. Right. So I won't write all of that out again. It will just be criteria one, two, three, four, five, six, or A_, B_, C_, D_, E_, F_ to confuse it with the number rating. B_, C_, D_, E_, F_. This is where I realise how tiny I actually am. Louise Creech: Just write small. Carrie Drew: Criteria and rating. Actually, it might be an idea, if we each did give our own individual rating, and we could take an average at the end. How about that? Louise Creech: Yeah. Donna Young: Yeah, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Donna Young: so Deanna Dedeke: okay. Donna Young: you Louise Creech: That Donna Young: can Carrie Drew: Okay. Louise Creech: works. Carrie Drew: So I'll just separate the ratings by obliques, and if we go one, two, three, four, we know who's who. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: Mm-hmm. Carrie Drew: Okay. Criteria A_, the fancy look and feel. How do we feel about this prototype model relating to fancy it is a fancy look and feel. One is true, seven is false. My own rating for that would be a two. One is true and seven is false. Louise Creech: I would agree. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Carrie Drew: I'll just Deanna Dedeke: I'd Carrie Drew: go Deanna Dedeke: uh Carrie Drew: this way. Louise Creech: Okay. Deanna Dedeke: yeah I'd Donna Young: 'Kay. Deanna Dedeke: probably put it uh two yeah, two Carrie Drew: Two. Deanna Dedeke: or three. No, three. Three. Carrie Drew: Okay. Louise Creech: I would say two. Carrie Drew: Two. Donna Young: I would say four. Carrie Drew: A four, okay. Donna Young: Mm-hmm. Carrie Drew: Adding those up, we've got a six and a five, eleven divided by four is what? Uh two and three quarters, Deanna Dedeke: Mm Carrie Drew: it that Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Donna Young: Almost Carrie Drew: right. Donna Young: three. Carrie Drew: Two and three quarters? Donna Young: I think yeah. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, yeah. Carrie Drew: Okay. Two point seven five, there we go. Okay, criteria B_, criterion B_, technologically innovative. I would give that a three. Deanna Dedeke: I'd give it a one. Carrie Drew: Okay. Not that you're biased Deanna Dedeke: No, no, Carrie Drew: in Deanna Dedeke: not Carrie Drew: that Deanna Dedeke: at Carrie Drew: it Deanna Dedeke: all. Carrie Drew: the designer. Louise Creech: A two. Donna Young: Oh sorry, I I got it wrong. The first one rating, I'm sorry. Can you just make it two? Carrie Drew: The average Donna Young: The first. Carrie Drew: oh, Donna Young: Yeah, Carrie Drew: for you? Donna Young: I I just it Carrie Drew: You Donna Young: the Carrie Drew: want Donna Young: other Carrie Drew: your Donna Young: way. Carrie Drew: rating to be a two? Donna Young: Uh in Carrie Drew: Is that what you're saying? Donna Young: Yep, I just Carrie Drew: Okay. Donna Young: got Carrie Drew: So, I'll work out the average for that again at the end. It's a very slightly altered Okay, and we're just Donna Young: two Carrie Drew: waiting Donna Young: point f Carrie Drew: for your Louise Creech: It's Carrie Drew: rating Louise Creech: just two Carrie Drew: f Louise Creech: point five for that one. Carrie Drew: Two Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: point five, okay. Losing one decimal place, Donna Young: One is Carrie Drew: that's Donna Young: a, Carrie Drew: okay. Donna Young: seven is false, okay. Carrie Drew: So what are you rating for this one, Paw? Donna Young: Two. Carrie Drew: Two, okay. So that is eight. That brings it down to two, nice Deanna Dedeke: Two. Carrie Drew: and simple, yeah. Okay, ease of use. Easy to use? Based on what you've said there, I would say a one, true. Deanna Dedeke: Two. Carrie Drew: Two. Louise Creech: I would say a two. Carrie Drew: A two, okay. Louise Creech: I would say a two. Donna Young: Two. Carrie Drew: Two. I should've said a two to make the arithmetic easy, shouldn't I? We'll just put almost two, because Louise Creech: One Carrie Drew: I'm not Louise Creech: point Carrie Drew: gonna get Louise Creech: seven Carrie Drew: into silly decimal Louise Creech: f five. Carrie Drew: places. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: Okay, Carrie Drew: Okay. Louise Creech: mm-hmm. Carrie Drew: Or we or if we want to really bring it down, we can do later. Um Deanna Dedeke: D_. Carrie Drew: mm now we're looking at it incorporates current fashion trends, now that's particularly Deanna Dedeke: One. Carrie Drew: in relation to our market research findings about the spongy texture to the exterior and the fruit and vegetable design colours. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: Right. So I'm just thinking, before I give it my rating, you were limited in the use of materials for your prototype here. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Carrie Drew: Is this Deanna Dedeke: that's Carrie Drew: actually going to be the colours that you Deanna Dedeke: No, Carrie Drew: would use? Deanna Dedeke: no, the the base colour was um Donna Young: White. With Deanna Dedeke: white Donna Young: for the plastic? Deanna Dedeke: or or Donna Young: Uh Deanna Dedeke: like Donna Young: blue. Deanna Dedeke: or l sort of a light blue, but Carrie Drew: Right. Deanna Dedeke: the changeable fa faces would uh allow you to get any basically Donna Young: Any Deanna Dedeke: any one of a number of colours that uh Carrie Drew: So Deanna Dedeke: th it's Carrie Drew: we could Deanna Dedeke: full Carrie Drew: use Deanna Dedeke: sort Carrie Drew: any Deanna Dedeke: of customised. Carrie Drew: strong fruit and veg colours and that's what Donna Young: Right. Carrie Drew: we're Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Carrie Drew: intending to do. Louise Creech: Mm-hmm. Deanna Dedeke: yeah, Donna Young: Mm-hmm. Deanna Dedeke: yeah Carrie Drew: Okay. And the Deanna Dedeke: and Carrie Drew: spongy feel is no problem with that. Deanna Dedeke: No, Donna Young: Yeah, Deanna Dedeke: no, Donna Young: because Deanna Dedeke: 'cause Donna Young: you'll Deanna Dedeke: th Donna Young: be Deanna Dedeke: that's Donna Young: having a Deanna Dedeke: that's the the spongy feel would be Donna Young: Because Deanna Dedeke: in Donna Young: of the Deanna Dedeke: the Donna Young: rubber Deanna Dedeke: rubber Donna Young: case. Deanna Dedeke: that you put round it, that Carrie Drew: Okay. Deanna Dedeke: otherwise it's just sort of hard plastic. Carrie Drew: to be a one for Carrie Drew. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, I'll give it a one as well. Carrie Drew: Yep. Everybody? Louise Creech: One. Carrie Drew: Okay. Donna Young: One. Carrie Drew: That part was nice and easy. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Donna Young: Mm. Carrie Drew: Okay. Uh moving on to does the design minimise repetitive strain injury. I Deanna Dedeke: Mm. Carrie Drew: don't think we've really touched on that Deanna Dedeke: No. Carrie Drew: a lot. We've we've discussed it, we haven't really come up with anything that we felt could feasibly reduce that. We've talked about pointers, but the very use of a remote control, if you're someone who's zapping, who's sitting Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: like that, and we found so many people did, how do you minimise that on such a small device? Louise Creech: Well the type of button that we're gonna use in the bottom half, the material, minimises Carrie Drew: Mm-hmm. Deanna Dedeke: to be. Louise Creech: R_S_I_ it's meant to. Carrie Drew: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: Um maybe because it's slightl with the size that we've got it's quite small, but with the amount of stuff we're putting on it isn't that much. Carrie Drew: Mm. Louise Creech: So maybe because there's more space, it's not kind of moving around trying to Carrie Drew: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: hit accurately the buttons in between. Carrie Drew: Right. Louise Creech: It's quite obvious just big buttons. Carrie Drew: Right. Louise Creech: Um Carrie Drew: I think I'm gonna have to be neutral on that and give it a four. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Yeah, I'd uh I'd f I'd go for a five, Carrie Drew: A Deanna Dedeke: actually, Carrie Drew: five, okay. Deanna Dedeke: 'cause Louise Creech: Four. Carrie Drew: Four and Donna Young: Four. Carrie Drew: a four okay. Twenty one is that twenty one? So that's four point two five. Deanna Dedeke: Yep. Carrie Drew: And finally, last but not least, easy to locate. Now we talked about voice recognition, we talked about a beeper, have we really have the Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: designers come to any Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Carrie Drew: dec Deanna Dedeke: it was Carrie Drew: real decision Deanna Dedeke: it was Carrie Drew: on that? Deanna Dedeke: uh a Donna Young: Voice Deanna Dedeke: voice Donna Young: r recognition. Carrie Drew: It was the Deanna Dedeke: voice Carrie Drew: I'm here Deanna Dedeke: recognition, Carrie Drew: thing, yep. Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Carrie Drew: And are we happy with the costs on that? That is going to Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Carrie Drew: be feasible, Deanna Dedeke: yeah, that Carrie Drew: cost-wise. Deanna Dedeke: yeah, that's feasible. Carrie Drew: That sounds good then. I'd go for a I ca we can adjust the volume on that, just as we could volume on T_V_. Deanna Dedeke: Um I think Carrie Drew: So if sombody's Deanna Dedeke: it would Carrie Drew: in the Deanna Dedeke: r Carrie Drew: other room or if T_V_s in different rooms, or. Deanna Dedeke: I think it would probably be a Louise Creech: A standard. Deanna Dedeke: a stand it would be a stand it would be quite loud. Louise Creech: It would Carrie Drew: Right. Louise Creech: be. Carrie Drew: Okay. Deanna Dedeke: So it would be Carrie Drew: You Deanna Dedeke: s Carrie Drew: built into Deanna Dedeke: p Louise Creech: And Carrie Drew: the Louise Creech: if Carrie Drew: feature. Louise Creech: you didn't Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Louise Creech: hear it in the room that you were standing in, then you'd realise that it wasn't in that room, Carrie Drew: Okay. Louise Creech: you'd go into another Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: room. Carrie Drew: Logical. That's a one for Carrie Drew. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, one. Carrie Drew: One Louise Creech: One. Carrie Drew: and one, good. Deanna Dedeke: I do realise that we might be being fairly biased, 'cause it is our product, but Carrie Drew: So, how do we feel about this? We've got our our we've got the highest rating of meeting the specifications that is definitely true for two of the uh six criteria there. That is for um incorporates current fashion trends and is easy to locate. The lowest rating we've got, which is really n it's not terribly low, i it's close around neutral is for uh the minimisation of repetitive strain injury. Do we feel on the basis of tha of these evaluation findings that we can go ahead and now produce this as a prototype and market it, or do we have to make further modifications? Louise Creech: I don't think so. Deanna Dedeke: W I thin yeah, Carrie Drew: We happy Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: to Deanna Dedeke: think Carrie Drew: go ahead? Louise Creech: I think we yeah. Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Louise Creech: I Carrie Drew: Yeah. Louise Creech: think we're set. Carrie Drew: I think for most of those ratings that it's high enough at the upper end of the scale for us to go ahead with that, and I really doubt if on the basis of current technology and our current capabilities, we could actually do much Louise Creech: Do Carrie Drew: more Louise Creech: much Carrie Drew: to minimise Louise Creech: apart from having Carrie Drew: that. Louise Creech: a Deanna Dedeke: Mm. Louise Creech: huge big Carrie Drew: I know. Okay. Well, I hope that's uh clear to the team. Is there anything you would like to to ask Carrie Drew about the findings before I sum up? Louise Creech: Don't think Deanna Dedeke: No. Louise Creech: so. Carrie Drew: Good. Fine then. I'll just leave it there. Oops. Louise Creech: Okay, thank you. Donna Young: Hmm. Louise Creech: Okay, I've got finance here now. I'm gonna plug this in so you can all see it, if that's okay. Um. Carrie Drew: Oh yes. Donna Young: You want Carrie Drew to b unplug that? Donna Young: That's all. Yes. Louise Creech: Thanks. Louise Creech: Right. Donna Young: Okay. Louise Creech: Now I presume that the screen will go blank, that um Okay. We just type numbers into this and we come out with the final value. So are we still on for kinetic? Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: Yes. Louise Creech: Okay. See, it woulda been handy to have this at the beginning. Um it might have influenced our choice. Right, what's happening with the electronics? Deanna Dedeke: It was a regular chip Donna Young: Chip Deanna Dedeke: on Donna Young: on print. Deanna Dedeke: print and Louise Creech: Double-curved. Deanna Dedeke: Oh, no, no, no, the um Yeah, it's you you've put in three for the number of kinetic cells, there should just be one. In the top, it's the number of c Louise Creech: Oh, Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Louise Creech: right, okay. Thanks. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, and Louise Creech: So, would there be two? Deanna Dedeke: yeah, just a no, one reg v uh Louise Creech: One chip. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, one of them and one sample sensor and sample speaker. Donna Young: Okay. Louise Creech: Okay. Donna Young: Yep. Deanna Dedeke: And they're double curved. No. Y Donna Young: Single-curved. Louise Creech: One double curve. Deanna Dedeke: Two, 'cause it's Donna Young: Two Deanna Dedeke: two. Donna Young: curves, yeah. Carrie Drew: But it has a slightly flattened bottom so it can sit. So it Louise Creech: So Carrie Drew: can Louise Creech: what's Carrie Drew: rest. Louise Creech: a single curve then? Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, I'd say I'd say Carrie Drew: It Deanna Dedeke: it Carrie Drew: would Deanna Dedeke: was Carrie Drew: just Deanna Dedeke: w Carrie Drew: be a flat bottom Deanna Dedeke: yeah, Carrie Drew: with Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: one Deanna Dedeke: think Carrie Drew: curve. like Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: a domed Deanna Dedeke: think Carrie Drew: thing. Deanna Dedeke: it's Louise Creech: So Donna Young: Single-cu. Louise Creech: just one double Carrie Drew: Mm. Deanna Dedeke: One double-curved. Louise Creech: Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: And Louise Creech: Um Deanna Dedeke: one no, Donna Young: Plastic Deanna Dedeke: 'cause one Donna Young: and rubber. Deanna Dedeke: yeah, one's double-curved, and then Carrie Drew: The other Deanna Dedeke: the Carrie Drew: curves Deanna Dedeke: other one's Carrie Drew: at the sides, but it's slightly flattened at the bottom so it doesn't roll over. Louise Creech: Mm. Carrie Drew: Yeah. Louise Creech: Um Deanna Dedeke: a plastic. Louise Creech: we've got plastic and rubber, haven't we? Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Donna Young: Yeah. Plastic one and Deanna Dedeke: And Donna Young: maybe Deanna Dedeke: special Donna Young: rubber point Deanna Dedeke: colour. Donna Young: five. No I think Louise Creech: Um Donna Young: rubber, since it's being used just as a casing, we can put point five. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: Do you think? Donna Young: Yeah, I think it allows the point five, yeah. We can use that. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: Okay. Carrie Drew: What does it mean if you put point five for that? Donna Young: It means we are not using a lot of rubber actually. We're using Louise Creech: It would Donna Young: just Louise Creech: be like saying we're using Donna Young: a very low quantity of rubber compared to plastic. Louise Creech: See, it says case material. Carrie Drew: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: So we're not actually using plastic in the case, Deanna Dedeke: No, Louise Creech: are we? Deanna Dedeke: no, that's it's as Louise Creech: It's Deanna Dedeke: an Louise Creech: including, Deanna Dedeke: extra. Louise Creech: it's including. Carrie Drew: Right, okay. Deanna Dedeke: So that shouldn't that shouldn't be actually on there, because that's not incorporated in the cost of the remote you get. Carrie Drew: But it is gonna be part of the total cost, and there's nowhere else we can we can put that in, is there? There's nowhere else we can code for the the rubber used in the casing. So do we not have to account for it in the cost somewhere there? Louise Creech: Okay, we'll just put it in as we'll put in as half. Carrie Drew: Okay. Louise Creech: Or sh we should just put it in as one, because the plastic is zero anyway. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Carrie Drew: Mm. Deanna Dedeke: okay. Louise Creech: No, we don't step on anyone's toes. Okay, special colour, do we need that? Carrie Drew: Might do, if we go for some of the more exotic Louise Creech: N yeah, Carrie Drew: aubergines Louise Creech: okay. Carrie Drew: and such like colours. Louise Creech: Interface. Donna Young: Push-button. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, the push-button's Donna Young: One. Deanna Dedeke: one and L_C_ Donna Young: An Deanna Dedeke: display one. Donna Young: One. Deanna Dedeke: And buttons Louise Creech: Buttons Carrie Drew: S Donna Young: I think we could change the battery also. Instead of going for kinetic how about going for a standard battery. Carrie Drew: Has that not made any d if you click off that square now, has that not made any difference? Deanna Dedeke: Well Carrie Drew: Is it Louise Creech: Has Carrie Drew: oh, Deanna Dedeke: yes. Carrie Drew: it's Louise Creech: that Carrie Drew: brought Louise Creech: not Carrie Drew: it Louise Creech: gone Carrie Drew: slightly Louise Creech: up? Oh no, Carrie Drew: down. Louise Creech: it was seven five it's changed not Carrie Drew: So Louise Creech: a Carrie Drew: is Louise Creech: lot. Carrie Drew: is uncurved completely and just actually making the rubber case the curved thing, is Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: that going to make a difference? Donna Young: Uncurved, flat. Carrie Drew: Oh, it's not made any difference, has it?. Deanna Dedeke: No, Carrie Drew: It's Donna Young: No, Deanna Dedeke: we'll Carrie Drew: gone up Deanna Dedeke: have Carrie Drew: again. Donna Young: it just Louise Creech: Oh, it's Donna Young: surprises Louise Creech: not calculated Donna Young: one. Deanna Dedeke: No, no, Louise Creech: it. Deanna Dedeke: you've got Carrie Drew: Oh. Deanna Dedeke: to click off to calculate it again. Louise Creech: Okay, there we go. Carrie Drew: It's brought it down slightly. Deanna Dedeke: C Louise Creech: It's Deanna Dedeke: it Louise Creech: not Deanna Dedeke: might Louise Creech: a lot though. Deanna Dedeke: uh you might you might be assuming that that is in Euros. It could be in Dollars. And then it would be fine, because the exchange range would make it about twelve. Carrie Drew: Is Louise Creech: We Carrie Drew: there Louise Creech: haven't Carrie Drew: anything on Donna Young: I Louise Creech: been Donna Young: don't Carrie Drew: the menu Louise Creech: dealin Donna Young: think so. Louise Creech: we haven't been dealing with dollars Carrie Drew: No. Louise Creech: though, I think Deanna Dedeke: No. Donna Young: Ri I think it's in Euro. Louise Creech: Okay, so the highest we've got is the electronics here. Um Carrie Drew: If we Louise Creech: and Carrie Drew: tr Louise Creech: the Carrie Drew: um. Louise Creech: interface. Carrie Drew: If we moved away from our much loved idea of a kinetic battery and just Donna Young: And Carrie Drew: went Donna Young: going Carrie Drew: with the Donna Young: to Carrie Drew: standard Donna Young: a regular bat Carrie Drew: batteries, would that make a huge difference? Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, the Donna Young: Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: standard, it um it would make one difference. The biggest one would be taking away if you took away Donna Young: What I feel is, customers never said Deanna Dedeke: If you Donna Young: anything Deanna Dedeke: to Donna Young: about the battery. It's internal, nobody looks into the battery. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Donna Young: But shape and colours, Carrie Drew: And people are Donna Young: that's Carrie Drew: used Donna Young: something Deanna Dedeke: If Carrie Drew: to buying Donna Young: we Deanna Dedeke: if Donna Young: shouldn't Carrie Drew: batteries, Deanna Dedeke: you take Donna Young: comprimi Carrie Drew: they're not Deanna Dedeke: away Carrie Drew: gonna Deanna Dedeke: the Carrie Drew: say Deanna Dedeke: voice, Carrie Drew: I'm not getting Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: this, 'cause Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: I've got Deanna Dedeke: do Carrie Drew: to Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: buy Deanna Dedeke: don't Carrie Drew: a Deanna Dedeke: like Carrie Drew: battery Deanna Dedeke: to say Carrie Drew: for a Deanna Dedeke: it, Carrie Drew: remote Deanna Dedeke: but if you Carrie Drew: control. Deanna Dedeke: take away the voice recognition, then you've got it. Donna Young: Where's that special form? Mm mm Carrie Drew: Should Donna Young: mm. Carrie Drew: we see what difference it makes? Louise Creech: Where's the Deanna Dedeke: Yeah i yeah. No Louise Creech: where's Deanna Dedeke: 'cause Carrie Drew: Um Louise Creech: the voice recognition? Deanna Dedeke: it's samples sens sample speaker. Louise Creech: Right, Deanna Dedeke: If you Louise Creech: okay. Deanna Dedeke: took away that, that'll make it twelve point three five. Louise Creech: Well the kinetic is three. If we change it to the battery it's that's Deanna Dedeke: They Louise Creech: minus three. Deanna Dedeke: n n yeah, but you p minus three plus two. Louise Creech: Oh, right. I keep seeing zero. Louise Creech: it some other way, we can do it doesn't have to be voice recognition. We could do the voice recognition for, you know, business class or something, you Carrie Drew: Yeah. Louise Creech: know, like an upgraded version. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: Sure. Donna Young: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: You could choose to have that Deanna Dedeke: But they Louise Creech: or not. Deanna Dedeke: but I mean in I don't see why we have to sell it for twenty five Euros now, because they w they were saying they were quite willing to pay more for better product. Carrie Drew: But we're still working to Louise Creech: So Carrie Drew: um Louise Creech: should we just change the Carrie Drew: head Louise Creech: design Carrie Drew: o Louise Creech: specification then? Carrie Drew: We can put in our recommendations. Donna Young: Make it Carrie Drew: If Donna Young: costly. Carrie Drew: we if we're Louise Creech: Yes. Carrie Drew: working to head office specifications as this is what this project team's working for, we can Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: put in our recommendations for what we've we've found and what we the consensus that we've come to as a result Louise Creech: Mm-hmm. Carrie Drew: of Deanna Dedeke: We Carrie Drew: the meetings. Deanna Dedeke: c we could Carrie Drew: But we Deanna Dedeke: s Carrie Drew: need to work to that specification to start with. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Louise Creech: Mm-hmm. Carrie Drew: And Deanna Dedeke: we Carrie Drew: I Deanna Dedeke: could say Carrie Drew: think the voice recognition sounds wonderful, but our object is so distinctive that that in itself is gonna make it easier to locate as a f you know in a first instance. Um as you say, we can offer the voice recognition initially to business class customers and so Louise Creech: Okay, we can Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, I Louise Creech: make Deanna Dedeke: s Louise Creech: the price fit, and then say if Deanna Dedeke: And Louise Creech: we'd Deanna Dedeke: then say Louise Creech: had Deanna Dedeke: we Louise Creech: our Deanna Dedeke: recommend Louise Creech: budget, we Carrie Drew: Mm. Louise Creech: would've had this, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: Yeah. Louise Creech: because it also sets it apart from Carrie Drew: 'Cause Louise Creech: the crowd. Carrie Drew: we've done all the background work Louise Creech: They like Carrie Drew: to go Louise Creech: their Carrie Drew: for Louise Creech: gadgets, Carrie Drew: that if they want Louise Creech: they like Carrie Drew: it. Louise Creech: something that's completely different. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: It's Carrie Drew: Yeah. Louise Creech: s something completely different associated with your company. Right, okay, so Carrie Drew: So if we take voice recognition out Deanna Dedeke: That'll do it. Twelve point three Donna Young: Yeah Deanna Dedeke: five. Donna Young: we are close Carrie Drew: we are. Donna Young: to the budget. Deanna Dedeke: Is it twelve point fif Donna Young: Two Louise Creech: It's Donna Young: five. Deanna Dedeke: was it twelve Louise Creech: two Deanna Dedeke: point Louise Creech: point Deanna Dedeke: fifty? Louise Creech: five. No, it's twelve point two five. Carrie Drew: Are you sure? Sorry, not meaning to doubt your words Louise Creech: Yeah well two, Carrie Drew: there. Louise Creech: twelve point two five times two is Carrie Drew: Right. Louise Creech: twenty five, Carrie Drew: Are they Louise Creech: isn't Carrie Drew: really Donna Young: It's Louise Creech: it? Carrie Drew: going Donna Young: twelve Carrie Drew: to quibble Donna Young: point five Carrie Drew: about Donna Young: maybe, Carrie Drew: ten Donna Young: then. Carrie Drew: P_? Or point zero one of a Euro? Which is less than ten P_. Donna Young: I don't know what it said fifty percent of the cost. So Louise Creech: I think Donna Young: half of Louise Creech: the agenda Donna Young: the price would Louise Creech: one Donna Young: be Louise Creech: was where the um price was, wasn't it? No. Donna Young: I think it is the first one. Carrie Drew: That's today's kick off meeting, Louise Creech: Twelve point five. Carrie Drew: Mm. Deanna Dedeke: Ah. Donna Young: So we Carrie Drew: I Donna Young: are under Carrie Drew: thought Donna Young: the Carrie Drew: that's Donna Young: budget. Carrie Drew: what it was. Louise Creech: Well done, people. Carrie Drew: So we're okay. Deanna Dedeke: Okay. Louise Creech: So is that uh got us covered for the electronics then? We don't need Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: something else to take that place? Deanna Dedeke: No. Louise Creech: Okay. Deanna Dedeke: 'Cause that that was just a bought-on extra, you could just take that out and that would be fine, Louise Creech: Okay. Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Donna Young: Seems fine. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, I think that's brilliant. Donna Young: Except voice recognition, everything is Louise Creech: Right, so we've done that. Okay. Product evaluation. We've done room for creativity, haven't we? Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: Because Donna Young: Yeah. Louise Creech: we've got decisions that we would have made that we weren't didn't feel able to make. Um I presume we discussed leadership and teamwork. Donna Young: Mm-hmm. Deanna Dedeke: Yes. Donna Young: Yeah. Louise Creech: um in the sense that um did you feel like a team? Or did you feel like uh Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, I'd say, as a team. Carrie Drew: Although we had our separate Donna Young: I think Louise Creech: autonomy? Donna Young: we Carrie Drew: tasks, Donna Young: had a nice time. Carrie Drew: there was Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: so much interaction, so much that we needed to um Deanna Dedeke: Find out Carrie Drew: bounce Deanna Dedeke: from Carrie Drew: off Deanna Dedeke: each other, Carrie Drew: each Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Carrie Drew: other. And I've certainly felt heard, listened to in that in relevant areas we've been able to, you know, give and take and adjust our remit Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: Mm-hmm. Carrie Drew: where necessary. Donna Young: Yeah, I think there was uh very constructive feedback by everybody. It's not like people trying to cut each other. There is more of uh true cohesive teamwork. We came to a very predic creative design, yeah. Yeah, and uh Yeah, I think. And Sarah, you coordinated the work very well. Louise Creech: Thank you. How did you find it? Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, no, I thought it it went really well and I yeah, I I feel that everyone was listened to and all the points that were raised seem to have been sorted out, although we didn't quite make the voice recognition in there, but that's that's good. Louise Creech: Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: I think it would have made it into the final product if it was actually if if if we'd seen the marketing before the initial specification was put out, I think maybe it would've come out a d little different, but Louise Creech: Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Louise Creech: I liked the fact that we could say an idea and it'd be suggested that that wasn't the best idea, but no one felt like shot down, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Donna Young: Yeah. Louise Creech: you know, y it didn't matter it saying what you thought, because if it wasn't something that was that relevant, then it didn't matter, 'cause it was just another idea in the field. Deanna Dedeke: Mm. Louise Creech: I like that. Carrie Drew: Yeah. Louise Creech: Um teamwork. Well you two created that wonderful specimen of a Play-Doh model. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, well. Donna Young: I Louise Creech: Um Donna Young: think that was the best part of the Louise Creech: uh I'm still not caught up. But that's nothing to do with the teamwork at all. Um Carrie Drew: Maybe we should think of branching out into children's toys and Louise Creech: Maybe. Carrie Drew: fake mobile phones as a side line. And fake Donna Young: 'Kay. Carrie Drew: R_C_s. Louise Creech: No, that was quite fun. Um means, whiteboard, digital pens, etcetera, what does that mean? Any Carrie Drew: How do Louise Creech: ideas? Carrie Drew: we evaluate Deanna Dedeke: Discuss Carrie Drew: the materials Deanna Dedeke: which ones Carrie Drew: we had for communicating Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Carrie Drew: and sharing information? Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: Could it've been better, was it adequate? Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, I think I think we probably woulda used the outer email system more, had we actually Louise Creech: Had time to kind of Carrie Drew: Mm. Deanna Dedeke: had had more time and if we'd been separated more. Louise Creech: Yeah, 'cause we could just sort of say, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: sorry what did you say about that or what do you think about that, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: rather than having to email it, yeah. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: Yeah. Louise Creech: But it was nice having it there. Um like the whole picture of the thing. Donna Young: Yeah, moving around the room. Carrie Drew: Yeah. Donna Young: But I think it's good, like uh we spent times individually. Donna Young: I never thought of a remote control with a flip top. Louise Creech: Yeah, I think it's new Carrie Drew: It's Louise Creech: ideas Carrie Drew: really borrowing Louise Creech: in general, Carrie Drew: from Louise Creech: rather Carrie Drew: other areas, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: than Carrie Drew: it's, you know, bringing things from other areas in, it so it's I mean nothing is new, Louise Creech: Mm. Carrie Drew: but it's applying it to a d in a different area. Deanna Dedeke: Vegetables. Donna Young: That's mine. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: Yeah, no. Donna Young: Yeah, it's Louise Creech: Well they have to come from somewhere, don't Carrie Drew: Absolutely, Louise Creech: they? Carrie Drew: yeah. Donna Young: The thing Louise Creech: And Donna Young: is Louise Creech: as sh as w sorry, you Donna Young: Yep, sorry, go on Sarah. Louise Creech: go. Um as was shown by your presentation with all of the other controls, remote controls, no one's thought about it Deanna Dedeke: No. Louise Creech: particularly. Carrie Drew: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: I mean they're slightly different, so if someone's been shut in the room and said make ours a bit different from everyone else's, 'cause it's Carrie Drew: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: w something we should think about, but obviously no one's put any Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Louise Creech: great Deanna Dedeke: I Louise Creech: deal Deanna Dedeke: do Louise Creech: of thought into it. Deanna Dedeke: I don't think the the companies are really concerned. They're just like we've got a D_V_D_ player, does anyone remember the remote control? Can't you get the one that we used for the last one? Yeah, Carrie Drew: Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: just jazz it up a bit. Louise Creech: Mm. Deanna Dedeke: Uh Carrie Drew: Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: d they don't really think about it, because normally, the remote control isn't the product which they're trying to ship. They're trying to ship Carrie Drew: Yeah, Deanna Dedeke: the D_V_D_ Carrie Drew: the focus Deanna Dedeke: player, Carrie Drew: isn't on Deanna Dedeke: the video Carrie Drew: to that, Deanna Dedeke: player, Carrie Drew: yeah. Louise Creech: But then when Deanna Dedeke: the T_V_. Louise Creech: it everything is really smart, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: and you've just got this big chunk of black Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: thing sitting on your coffee table, it doesn't go, I Deanna Dedeke: No. Louise Creech: mean if you could have something that's a proper funky Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: thing, a funky item that's individual, individual to you, I mean they could even go into um you go in with an idea and they design it on Photoshop and then they just get it printed on the plastic, Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: you would pray you would pay a lot extra, because it's individually being a plastic was being made for you. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: But people could have anything that they wanted. Deanna Dedeke: Mm. Donna Young: Surprising Louise Creech: Because of the Donna Young: to Louise Creech: produ Donna Young: Carrie Drew is like uh people give a lot of attention to modifying mobile phones, Louise Creech: Mm. Donna Young: like a real want to see a new launch or something like that. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Donna Young: And new f television products coming up, but nobody giving uh much idea to this. Carrie Drew: I think Donna Young: Like Sarah Carrie Drew: it's Donna Young: was telling, Carrie Drew: really Donna Young: everything's Carrie Drew: good that this has been very market research based, Donna Young: Right. Carrie Drew: because just going back to mobile phones, I mean this is the first change in remote control devices that I can really, you know, say is is obvious and visible. We see it in mobile phones a lot, and tha that's where we've borrowed a lot of our ide our ideas from. There are innovations in that that people don't really want. Louise Creech: Yes. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Carrie Drew: I see people wanting a model of the phone they were really happy with, and they can't get it anymore Louise Creech: Yeah. Carrie Drew: and it's innovation for innovation's sake, and I think it's wonderful our company's so R_ and D_ based. Louise Creech: Well, it's Donna Young: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: innovation for money's sake. The Carrie Drew: Yeah. Louise Creech: the people have to keep Carrie Drew: But Louise Creech: buying. Carrie Drew: forcing it onto people, Louise Creech: Yeah. Carrie Drew: yeah. It's things that, you know, they might want to buy the thing they Louise Creech: And Carrie Drew: really Louise Creech: you Carrie Drew: want. Louise Creech: can't get you've got your handset that works fine, but you can't get the battery anymore Carrie Drew: Mm. Louise Creech: for that type of phone, Carrie Drew: Mm. Louise Creech: because the phones have moved on, things like Carrie Drew: Or Louise Creech: that. Carrie Drew: there isn't a cover to fit it or Louise Creech: Yes. Carrie Drew: whatever, yeah. Louise Creech: It's madness. Um Carrie Drew: See I think Louise Creech: In closing There we go. Um our costs are below budget with recommendations that they the budget be increased, but I think I don't know, d what do you think? Do you think that's takes into account um overheads like us being well paid kind of a thing? And the heating Deanna Dedeke: Well. Louise Creech: for the building, do you think our budget includes everything, all the costs that are going out? Carrie Drew: I think it was just the produc uh just Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: the Deanna Dedeke: think Carrie Drew: production Deanna Dedeke: that was just Carrie Drew: cost Deanna Dedeke: the Carrie Drew: of the phone. Deanna Dedeke: the physical. Louise Creech: So it looks well it looks like it's gonna be fifty percent profit, you've Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: still got Carrie Drew: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: all of the overheads to come out of that. So Deanna Dedeke: Yeah. Louise Creech: maybe increasing it, you would also have to increase the price that it's sold at. Donna Young: Maybe Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, Donna Young: fifty Deanna Dedeke: I Donna Young: percent Louise Creech: But Deanna Dedeke: think Louise Creech: I Donna Young: more. Louise Creech: think but you were saying that that's quite Deanna Dedeke: yeah Carrie Drew: But Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: I Deanna Dedeke: don't Carrie Drew: think in the remit Deanna Dedeke: from Carrie Drew: that Deanna Dedeke: the market Carrie Drew: we were given, Deanna Dedeke: research. Carrie Drew: it was very specific. I think we've done what we were required to do, Louise Creech: Hmm. Carrie Drew: and I think there'll have to be another project team or a new project for us to look at at those kind of things. I don't think that's something we have to look at Louise Creech: Yeah. Carrie Drew: and Deanna Dedeke: No. Carrie Drew: find a way of raising the cash for. Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, it Carrie Drew: I Deanna Dedeke: was Carrie Drew: think we've done very well to get within budget and Louise Creech: Mm. Carrie Drew: it still makes such an innovative item Louise Creech: Yeah. Carrie Drew: that I think people are really gonna want. Donna Young: Yeah. Louise Creech: It's a shame it won't ever get made. Carrie Drew: I know. Louise Creech: Maybe Carrie Drew: Maybe Donna Young: Who Louise Creech: it Carrie Drew: it Donna Young: knows? Carrie Drew: will. Louise Creech: will. Carrie Drew: Maybe they are gonna steal Louise Creech: Maybe Carrie Drew: our ideas Louise Creech: someone'll Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: and Deanna Dedeke: it's Carrie Drew: sell Louise Creech: r Carrie Drew: it. Louise Creech: run Deanna Dedeke: top secret. Louise Creech: down and patent it. Deanna Dedeke: Um it's it is it's a conspiracy going on here. Louise Creech: Um Deanna Dedeke: That's what it is. Louise Creech: the project has been evaluated well and truly. Donna Young: Yeah. Carrie Drew: Mm-hmm. Louise Creech: Um and we've got the meeting survey and questionnaire. Donna Young: There's a final questionnaire. Louise Creech: Oh, so we've got about fifty minutes to catch up with everything that I fell behind with, so I'll be delegating in my um Deanna Dedeke: In Louise Creech: role Deanna Dedeke: your Louise Creech: as Deanna Dedeke: yeah. Louise Creech: Project Supervisor, so good luck. Donna Young: Celebration, you didn't talk about that. Louise Creech: I think the celebration is the twenty five pounds. Either that or we'll be dancing on the desks. Oh. Carrie Drew: Questionnaire. Deanna Dedeke: Okay. Is that it then? Louise Creech: Um yeah, just the last, I think. Deanna Dedeke: Awesome. Louise Creech: I think I've got minutes for two of the meeting and the last thingy. Carrie Drew: Questionnaire done. Oh, I didn't have to rate you on how much you influenced the meeting this time. Deanna Dedeke: Was that not the questionnaire for the how you felt you'd done in your thing? Carrie Drew: Oh, right. But Deanna Dedeke: I Carrie Drew: do we not Deanna Dedeke: don't Carrie Drew: sometimes Deanna Dedeke: think. Carrie Drew: evaluate in these meetings Deanna Dedeke: Yeah, the Carrie Drew: too? Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: the s yeah. I think yeah, questionnaire seven was the one I did just before the meeting. Donna Young: Yeah. Deanna Dedeke: Mm. Louise Creech: I just got con

Louise Creech went over decisions from the previous meeting. Deanna Dedeke presented the prototype and discussed its look, its internal components, and its interface. Carrie Drew evaluated the product according to the initial product goals. The group then decided that enough of this criteria had been satisfied for the project to continue. Louise Creech presented the final cost of the device which exceeded the initial projected price point. The group decided to remove speech recognition but to propose to the management that it remain in the design. The group then discussed their effectiveness as a team. All members felt that they interacted well and that they felt they could be creative. Carrie Drew felt that the market-research based approach would help the project's success with consumers. The group did express, however, that the budget was overly constraining. Louise Creech instructed the group to fill out a final evaluation questionnaire.

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Cecelia Brown: Uh, making Melissa Bellows: Alright so Cecelia Brown: a Melissa Bellows: twenty Cecelia Brown: profit Melissa Bellows: five. Cecelia Brown: of fifty million Anita Grove: Mm 'kay. Cecelia Brown: So, it's Melissa Bellows: So yeah, Cecelia Brown: go Melissa Bellows: I've Cecelia Brown: gonna have to be be pretty damn Melissa Bellows: The only Cecelia Brown: trendy. Melissa Bellows: the only remote controls I've used usually come with the television, and Cecelia Brown: Yeah. Melissa Bellows: they're Anita Grove: Mm-hmm. Melissa Bellows: fairly Cecelia Brown: Yeah. Melissa Bellows: basic. So uh Cecelia Brown: Yeah, I was thinking that as well, I think the the only ones that I've seen that you buy are the sort of one for all type things Anita Grove: Yeah Cecelia Brown: where Anita Grove: the universal Cecelia Brown: they're, Anita Grove: ones Cecelia Brown: yeah. Melissa Bellows: Mm. Anita Grove: Yeah. Cecelia Brown: So presumably that might be an idea to Melissa Bellows: But but Cecelia Brown: put Melissa Bellows: to Cecelia Brown: into. Melissa Bellows: sell it Lynn Spencer: Slim. Melissa Bellows: for twenty five you need a lot of neat features. For Anita Grove: Yeah. Cecelia Brown: Yeah, Melissa Bellows: sure. Cecelia Brown: yeah. Anita Grove: Mm-hmm, Cecelia Brown: And that's Anita Grove: it's Cecelia Brown: quite Anita Grove: about Cecelia Brown: a Anita Grove: that. Cecelia Brown: lot for a remote control. Melissa Bellows: Yeah, Anita Grove: Mm. Melissa Bellows: yeah. Anita Grove: Um well my first thoughts would be most remote controls are grey or black. As you said they come with the T_V_ so it's normally just your basic grey Cecelia Brown: Uh-huh. Anita Grove: black remote control functions, so maybe we could think about colour? Cecelia Brown: Mm-hmm. Anita Grove: Make that might make it a bit different from the rest at least. Um, and as you say, we need to have some kind of gimmick, Cecelia Brown: Okay. Anita Grove: thought maybe something like if you lose it and you can whistle, you know those things? Cecelia Brown: The the keyrings, Anita Grove: Because we always Cecelia Brown: yeah Anita Grove: lose our remote Cecelia Brown: yeah. Anita Grove: control. Melissa Bellows: Right. Cecelia Brown: Okay, that's cool. Lynn Spencer: Uh yeah uh, being as Exper Expert I will like to say other things we must see the market potential for this product like what is the competition in the market? What are the available prices of the other remote controls in the prices? What speciality other remote controls are having Cecelia Brown: Okay. Lynn Spencer: and how complicated it is to use these remote controls as compared to other remote controls available in the market. Anita Grove: Okay. Lynn Spencer: like and apart from this, it should be having a good look also, because people really li uh like to play with it Anita Grove: Mm. Lynn Spencer: when they are watching movies or playing with or playing with their C_D_ player, M_P_ three player like Anita Grove: Mm-hmm. Lynn Spencer: any electronic devices. Anita Grove: Mm-hmm. Lynn Spencer: They really want to have something good, having a good design Anita Grove: Yeah. Lynn Spencer: in their hands, Cecelia Brown: Okay. Lynn Spencer: so, Cecelia Brown: 'Kay. Lynn Spencer: yes, all this. Melissa Bellows: Uh, Cecelia Brown: So, we're Melissa Bellows: what do Cecelia Brown: looking Melissa Bellows: we think a Cecelia Brown: for 'Kay. Melissa Bellows: What do we Cecelia Brown: We're Melissa Bellows: think a good size would be for this? Cecelia Brown: Sorry, Melissa Bellows: 'Cause Cecelia Brown: carry on. Melissa Bellows: I I know as you add more buttons to the remote it sometimes gets so big and clunky Anita Grove: Yeah. Melissa Bellows: and there's Cecelia Brown: Mm-hmm. Melissa Bellows: just like a hundred buttons on it, Cecelia Brown: Mm-hmm. Anita Grove: Yeah. Melissa Bellows: or you could have a really small slim one but then you could lose it easily. Anita Grove: Then you lose Cecelia Brown: Okay. Anita Grove: it, yeah. Kind of um, maybe more like a P_D_A_ kind of, just hand held, like, Cecelia Brown: For Anita Grove: 'cause Cecelia Brown: for uh remember we're trying to make it for twelve Euros fifty. Anita Grove: Yeah. No, I wasn't, no sorry I wasn't thinking of the screen of like Cecelia Brown: Okay Anita Grove: a P_D_A_ Cecelia Brown: well Anita Grove: but Cecelia Brown: right we'll have to um I'll we're k having another meeting in half an hour so Anita Grove: Okay. Cecelia Brown: um we should all look into a bit uh, oh actually, no, we'll allocate. So you do the looking around at other remote controls. Lynn Spencer: Yeah. Cecelia Brown: Um, if you could maybe come up with sort of shapes and suggested shades or whatever, and you could look into um basically how how it's made I_E_ like how you make it all in one, how what sort of materials are available to you whatever. And obviously, other instructions will come from the personal coach. Melissa Bellows: Right. Cecelia Brown: Which will probably just usurp what I said so Anita Grove: So you want Lynn Spencer to look at shapes and everything you said? Cecelia Brown: Shapes and Anita Grove: Yep. Cecelia Brown: colours and Anita Grove: Okay. Cecelia Brown: um basically how to make it attractive. Uh. Anita Grove: Mm-hmm. Cecelia Brown: And you look at competition Lynn Spencer: Yep. Cecelia Brown: and design. Cool. Anita Grove: Okay. Melissa Bellows: Okay. Cecelia Brown: So we have Melissa Bellows: Wait Cecelia Brown: uh Melissa Bellows: for emails? Lynn Spencer: Uh. Cecelia Brown: Um. Melissa Bellows: Hmm. Cecelia Brown: Okay, groovy. And no doubt we'll get um Anita Grove: Oh no, Sorry Cecelia Brown: Sorry. Anita Grove: it's okay. Cecelia Brown: We'll get um warnings for next meetings as well. Anita Grove: Okay, cool. Cecelia Brown: Okay. I shall I can't imagine these are worth much. Okay. Lynn Spencer: Hmm. Cecelia Brown: Fashion into electronic. Okay.

The group discussed their initial ideas about the features that they wanted to integrate into the design. They discussed making a universal remote with a locator function. They also discussed the shape and the number of functions in the main interface. Cecelia Brown instructed Lynn Spencer to examine competitors' remotes, Anita Grove to research possible shapes and colors, and Melissa Bellows to research possible materials and the necessary internal components of the device.

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Rosie Welling: Um minutes from the last meeting which were essentially that we uh had decided on roles for each of you, however, um there are some changes that I've got from on high that Alberta Polk: Okay. Rosie Welling: um are a bit uh well w what I didn't actually realise it was that the uh this is for a specific television. Alberta Polk: Okay. Rosie Welling: So the all in one idea goes out the window. And Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: they require that the uh actually I'll get to that at the end point number four, um we'll what you've and then we can see what we can adapt from it. So um, presentations, were you anybody got, Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Rosie Welling: raring to go? Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Rosie Welling: Raring to go? Okay. Good stuff. Mm. Sherri Foslien: Um. Rosie Welling: Oh Sherri Foslien: So Rosie Welling: I need to Sherri Foslien: how Rosie Welling: plug you in. Sherri Foslien: S Alberta Polk: Wow. Rosie Welling: Just about. Helen Edwards: It's a inspired design. Sherri Foslien: Sh do you want Sherri Foslien to hold it? Rosie Welling: Uh there we go, just screw 'em on in. Gonna have to swap them round so now, Sherri Foslien: So, after that? Rosie Welling: it was function F_ eight. Sherri Foslien: F_ eight. Rosie Welling: That's the Sherri Foslien: f Rosie Welling: wee blue one. Sherri Foslien: oh sorry F_ eight. Rosie Welling: Blue one F_ eight. Should Sherri Foslien: Okay. Rosie Welling: do it, good one. Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Uh, Sherri Foslien again, Rajan Sherri Foslien. Uh, as we have decided in the last meeting that I have to find out, sorry, Rosie Welling: Hold on, sorry. Sherri Foslien: yeah sure. Rosie Welling: and if you just click that it'll go ahead, one Sherri Foslien: Yeah, Rosie Welling: at a time. Sherri Foslien: yeah. Uh actually, sorry I have to see the other, sorry. Rosie Welling: Sorry, uh. Sherri Foslien: Yeah, thank you. Uh I have look at the market potential for uh, like consumer likings and everything, what is the potential for this product and are we able to achieve our a net profit or our aims or not? Then Rosie Welling: P press F_ five to start it first. Sherri Foslien: Sorry. Okay. Yeah, I can, Helen Edwards: Hmm. Sherri Foslien: okay. Rosie Welling: Jesus. Sherri Foslien: Uh then uh the methodology I adopted to find out all this was market survey. A a detailed market survey on consumers was done to find out their likings and dislikings, what they prefer what they not prefer, w what problems they do encounter in all this type of things. And what we got was, we found that if you uh, what they th what problems they are having with different uh remote controls available in the market. Seventy five percent of users they do find it that the remote controls available in the market are ugly. They are not so good looking. So, we have to put stress on this, uh we have to take care of this fact also like our design, uh should be appropriate, should be good looking for the consumers. And yes that's wi uh this will definitely, this can definitely put uh uh enhance our sales. Uh and even uh the good thing about this is that eighty percent of users they are willing to pay high uh pay more for this uh good looking remote controls also. So even if the available market goes for the available uh even if the market goes for the available remote control is less even then we can sell it at twenty five Euros, which maybe which may seem quite high but if our looks are are if the re remote control we design have a good better uh better look uh designs, then we can hope that consumers will prefer these g remote controls. Rosie Welling: Excellent. Sherri Foslien: Then And the second thing, some some companies they think that they should have more and more functions of the users uh or in their remote controls, but rather than those having more functions in the remote controls we should emphasise what actually consumer want, what they operate, rather than making it too complicated. Because mostly it has been found that fifty percent of the users they use only ten percent of the buttons, so there is no point of having ninety percent buttons making the remote controls too bulky, too complicated too expensive a because I think I believe that technology is useful only if uh the consumers they want to use it. Otherwise there is no point of having all this type of things. So this will not only reduce the cost of our remote controls but it will increase our profit also. So we have to take care of this fact also. Then. Uh it was function I want to go to. Rosie Welling: Oh you wanna go back? Just escape. Sherri Foslien: Uh, escape, okay thank you. Then if we look at this slide, Rosie Welling: Okay. Sherri Foslien: uh these are in your shared documents, you can see, Rosie Welling: Okay. Sherri Foslien: like Uh, Alberta Polk: So, Sherri Foslien: sorry. Alberta Polk: sorry I was just gonna say, what was the question for this? Or is are you coming on to that? Sherri Foslien: Ah t look all the market potential, what Alberta Polk: Okay. Sherri Foslien: uh how we should design consu our remote controls, what they should be there so as to en enhance our profit, enhance Alberta Polk: So these percentages Sherri Foslien: our sales. Alberta Polk: are Sherri Foslien: Yeah, Alberta Polk: are what? Sherri Foslien: these are different age group persons like uh sorry, I can open it in another way. Rosie Welling: Okay. Sherri Foslien: Uh, Rosie Welling: Speech recognition. Sherri Foslien: yes. If we look at the costs whether the consumers they are willing to uh pay more for speech recognition in a remote control or not, we can find that they up to a thirty five years age group we have a very good disliking for this uh this uh point, like for speech recognition in a remote control. So we can emphasise on this point also like, because it will definitely enhance our sales in this Alberta Polk: Hmm. Sherri Foslien: ag in this particular age group from uh fifteen to thirty five, and I uh and I think that most of the users of the rem uh T_V_ are belong to this age group. Rosie Welling: Hmm. Sherri Foslien: So we Rosie Welling: We're als Sherri Foslien: should look Rosie Welling: we we're looking at who buys it as well. Sherri Foslien: Yeah. We can look at that that factor also, so yes. Rosie Welling: Uh, which I think the twenty five to thirty five is uh usual, sort of. Alberta Polk: Mm, Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Alberta Polk: mm. Sherri Foslien: So, and And then Rosie Welling: Fifteen to twe Sherri Foslien: Yes. I think so. Uh if we look at this data how how uh h how what are the problems the consumers are facing with the existing remote controls in the market. They find that thirt uh thirty five percent uh thirty four percent of the consumers they find too difficult to operate a remote control. So it should be in such a way that it should be easy to learn how to operate these remote controls and we should provide pl uh spe uh proper manuals for its use also so as that people consumers could easily learn. They need not to have any, much technical knowledge Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Sherri Foslien: to see uh to know how to operate these remote controls. Sherri Foslien: So Rosie Welling: Okay. Sherri Foslien: um this is all about uh market potential by Sherri Foslien. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Sherri Foslien: Uh, yes, th Rosie Welling: Okay, thank you. Sherri Foslien: thank you. Rosie Welling: Um, follow on with Helen? Yeah Alberta Polk: Yep, sure, Rosie Welling: please. Alberta Polk: that's cool, um Sherri Foslien: Yeah we have to Rosie Welling: Oh, Sherri Foslien: take Rosie Welling: so Sherri Foslien: that Alberta Polk: Yeah. Rosie Welling: we do yeah. Sherri Foslien: out. Sorry. Rosie Welling: Fun and games. Sherri Foslien: Sorry. Rosie Welling: Don't know if the cable's gonna be long enough. Sherri Foslien: Uh sorry, Rosie Welling: I think Sherri Foslien: I Rosie Welling: I Sherri Foslien: have. Rosie Welling: just kicked over whatever it runs on underneath as well. Sherri Foslien: Brian, this one also I. Yeah. Rosie Welling: Okay. Alberta Polk: I Sherri Foslien: Thank Alberta Polk: can Sherri Foslien: you Alberta Polk: turn Sherri Foslien: very much Alberta Polk: my Sherri Foslien: Brian. Alberta Polk: computer quickly if that's okay. Sherri Foslien: If you want Sherri Foslien to help, Alberta Polk: Um, Sherri Foslien: yeah. Alberta Polk: yep. Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Alberta Polk: Okay, and then what do I press, F_ eight? Sherri Foslien: Uh F_ eight. Rosie Welling: Function Sherri Foslien: Function Rosie Welling: F_ eight. Sherri Foslien: F_ eight. Alberta Polk: Oh right. Sherri Foslien: Mm s. Alberta Polk: Okay cool. Sherri Foslien: It's not coming. Alberta Polk: Oh. Sherri Foslien: Function F_ eight, okay. Yeah. Alberta Polk: Yeah. No signal. Rosie Welling: Hmm. Sherri Foslien: Computer. Rosie Welling: There you go. Sherri Foslien: Computer adjusting, Alberta Polk: Okay. Sherri Foslien: yeah. Alberta Polk: Cool. Okay Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Alberta Polk: and then how do I press the the big one, to get it on Rosie Welling: Uh Alberta Polk: to the big Rosie Welling: F_ five. Alberta Polk: F_ five and I press that again to get it off as well Rosie Welling: Um, Alberta Polk: do Sherri Foslien: Escape. Alberta Polk: I? Rosie Welling: F_ five and escape'll bring it back and just uh the left button for advancing. Alberta Polk: Okay, so um I'm the interface design designer, User Interface Designer sorry, uh I'm concerned with um w what effect the apparatus should have on the user and um I'm I'm also I want to point out that our motto, put the fashion in electronics, so obviously we as a company we want to make our products trendy and fashionable, it's a big concern of ours. Okay, and how do I press n just the next button? Rosie Welling: Uh just Alberta Polk: The arrow? Rosie Welling: a left uh Alberta Polk: Okay. Rosie Welling: left Alberta Polk: So Rosie Welling: mouse button. Alberta Polk: um I looked at existing designs and also um the information that Raj gave us was very useful about what people like, what people dislike. Um and what people fashionable, because we said people between twenty five and thirty five Rosie Welling: Mm-hmm. Alberta Polk: were the main um buyers of of our T_V_ I think. Rosie Welling: Okay. Alberta Polk: So um what they like and what they find fashionable. Rosie Welling: 'Kay. Alberta Polk: And ergonomics, we said um, I don't know I haven't actually been able to do any of this myself, but um maybe that comes up, I don't know. Rosie Welling: That can come under Alberta Polk: And Rosie Welling: Arlo as Alberta Polk: the Rosie Welling: well. Alberta Polk: findings, well the basic that was the basic function to send messages to the television set. That's Rosie Welling: Uh. Alberta Polk: what people want to do. Um, so they need to be included, um, but I've got some pictures here of some leading ones. I don't know how to get to them, do I press Rosie Welling: Uh Alberta Polk: F_ Rosie Welling: if Alberta Polk: five Rosie Welling: you Alberta Polk: is it? Rosie Welling: if you escape Alberta Polk: escape? Rosie Welling: then you can see your bar. Alberta Polk: Oh okay, cool. I haven't got my glasses on so I hope it's this one. These Rosie Welling: Uh Alberta Polk: are two Rosie Welling: okay. Alberta Polk: leading um remote controls at the moment. You know Rosie Welling: 'Kay. Alberta Polk: they're grey, they've I mean this one's got loads of buttons, it's hard to tell from here what they actually do, and they don't look very exciting at all. Um, personally I prefer this one just because it's looks easier use, it's a bit more sleek with more of this silver stuff, Rosie Welling: Mm-hmm. Alberta Polk: um, but there you go, that's what we're up against, and I think we can do much better than that. Helen Edwards: Of course. Alberta Polk: Um Rosie Welling: We hope so. Alberta Polk: hang on. F_ five, okay, sorry. Personal preferences. Um, well I think we need to l I think the ergonomics is quite um important, um Rosie Welling: Yeah, particularly if we've uh there was a bit in Raj's about R_S_I_ and things as well. Alberta Polk: Uh-huh. Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Alberta Polk: And um I thought not too edgy and like a box, more kind of hand-held more um not as uh computery and Rosie Welling: Organic. Alberta Polk: or organic, yeah, more organic shape I think. Um simple designs, like the last one we just saw, not too many buttons and as Raj pointed out, only ten percent fifty percent of people only use ten percent of the buttons, Rosie Welling: Mm-hmm. Alberta Polk: so I think what we can miss out on the buttons we can make up for in Rosie Welling: Sales, Alberta Polk: design and and how nice it looks. Rosie Welling: Okay. Alberta Polk: Um, hand-held and portable I think is portamint is important because T_F_T_ have just um released um I think is it a a remote control for presentations or uh and Rosie Welling: Yeah Alberta Polk: a big Rosie Welling: it's Alberta Polk: seven Rosie Welling: like a, Alberta Polk: inch Rosie Welling: yeah. Alberta Polk: big screen, anyway, so um Rosie Welling: It's. Alberta Polk: Yeah, no seven inches isn't that big but um anyway um so hand-held and portable and uh m Rosie Welling: Right. Alberta Polk: I thought about other functions for T_V_ but as you pointed out people don't actually want that, so Rosie Welling: And Alberta Polk: maybe Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Alberta Polk: we Rosie Welling: also Alberta Polk: forget about that. Rosie Welling: the company want to keep it stuck to the T_V_ for uh to keep down the Alberta Polk: It's Rosie Welling: production Alberta Polk: for one Rosie Welling: time. Alberta Polk: T_V_ oh right okay, sure. And so the last thing I thought w which I quickly mentioned in the other one was maybe a bit of a gimmick to Rosie Welling: Mm-hmm. Alberta Polk: set us apart from other people, like glow-in-the-dark Sherri Foslien: Exactly. Alberta Polk: um Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Alberta Polk: which does already e exist but it's not very Rosie Welling: Yeah. Alberta Polk: widely used I don't think. Easy finder with the a whistle function Rosie Welling: Okay. Alberta Polk: or something, or rechargeable station because it's a pain when you run out of batteries. Rosie Welling: Yeah. Alberta Polk: And I think that, yep, that's it. Rosie Welling: That's cool. Helen Edwards: So Alberta Polk: Okay? Helen Edwards: uh, I noticed your talk about speech recognition and whistling, Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: and uh I was just curious to know, have we done any research into how many people can whistle? Um, or if is that a function we want in the remote? Alberta Polk: Um, Rosie Welling: Um, Alberta Polk: I haven't Rosie Welling: do you have Alberta Polk: been Rosie Welling: trouble Alberta Polk: able to Rosie Welling: whistling? Helen Edwards: I don't, but I I know a lot of people do right. Rosie Welling: Really? Ooh. Helen Edwards: Yeah it just I mean it has to be a certain kind of whistle too, right? Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm, Rosie Welling: Yeah, I suppose Alberta Polk: yeah Rosie Welling: that's true. Alberta Polk: or Rosie Welling: Well Alberta Polk: some Rosie Welling: I suppo Alberta Polk: sort Rosie Welling: uh you could Alberta Polk: of Rosie Welling: y you could Alberta Polk: voice Rosie Welling: have the you could have the basically um instead of a whistle if it's got the voice recognition you could have it just, you know, where are you? Alberta Polk: Yeah. Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Helen Edwards: That's costly though. Um a much easier thing is just any loud noise like clapping Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: um, Rosie Welling: Hmm. Helen Edwards: shouting, Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Helen Edwards: you know, Rosie Welling: Sounds Helen Edwards: uh Rosie Welling: good. Helen Edwards: and then, what would the response be? It beeps back at you or something? Alberta Polk: Yeah, something. Helen Edwards: Okay. Well, uh let Sherri Foslien set this up. So I plug it in, press F_ five? Function F_ five? Rosie Welling: Function F_ eight for the um Helen Edwards: Or function F_ eight? Rosie Welling: the uh Helen Edwards: Okay. Alberta Polk: Oh you need to twiddle the thingamibobsy thing. Helen Edwards: Okay. I think it's uh just to lock it in. Rosie Welling: Yeah. Helen Edwards: It's got it. Alberta Polk: Okay. Helen Edwards: Okay. Um. So as Helen Edwards my job is to take an input from you guys, Rosie Welling: Alright. Helen Edwards: um so it's good you went first, and Rosie Welling: Let's Helen Edwards: I jotted Rosie Welling: remember Helen Edwards: down some Rosie Welling: that. Helen Edwards: notes as to what are the b needs and uh what kind of novel features we can add to differentiate our product from the others. Um so Raj told us that uh consumers are willing to spend more for fancy products, and um he also mentioned that uh the current products don't always match users' operating behaviour. Um, a lot of the buttons aren't used, and uh he mentioned that they're not fun to use. And uh a novel feature which uh we just brought up was this this automatic speech recognition feature or noise detection feature for when you lose the remote, there could be a little microphone on it, and any noise over a certain threshold um it'll pick up as a a distress signal um Rosie Welling: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: from you and it'll beep back and say you know oh here I am or Rosie Welling: But Helen Edwards: something Rosie Welling: sure Helen Edwards: of this Rosie Welling: surely Helen Edwards: sort. Rosie Welling: that would have to be um sort of specific rather than above a threshold 'cause if you had a loud movie on you're likely Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: to get it Helen Edwards: Oh Rosie Welling: beeping Helen Edwards: yeah, Rosie Welling: back at you. Helen Edwards: yeah, Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: that's true. Well maybe you could have a um hmm tha that would be a consideration to take into account yes. Um. Rosie Welling: Sorry I didn't mean to derail you there. Helen Edwards: Yeah well tha that's uh for later down the road um, and then as for the user interface it should be trendy, um and not computery, right, so more low tech and not too many buttons. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: So I took these all into consideration and also I have some limitations from the boss. Right um, and practical limitations which I kinda threw out the window. And so I did a little research and unfortunately all I had to work on was our uh our corporate archives of the great products we've made before, which include, you know, um space craft, coffee makers, and bullet trains Rosie Welling: Ah is Helen Edwards: Or Rosie Welling: that what Helen Edwards: uh Rosie Welling: that is? Helen Edwards: or a high speed train. Right and having personally worked with all these products uh I have a great deal of experience with uh Rosie Welling: Well Helen Edwards: with industrial Rosie Welling: that's cool. Helen Edwards: design of Rosie Welling: If Helen Edwards: these. Rosie Welling: you if you can build space craft you'll have no problem with a Helen Edwards: Right. Rosie Welling: remote control, Alberta Polk: Yeah sure. Rosie Welling: yeah. Helen Edwards: So, I figured, just put 'em all together. You got a a caffeine powered space shuttle train transport to your T_V_, and um Sherri Foslien: Hmm. Helen Edwards: as for the user interface problem, you know, too many buttons. Give it one button and and it's a you know, for the the cowboy in all of us I I'm not quite sure what the the function is there Rosie Welling: Right Alberta Polk: Well Helen Edwards: but Alberta Polk: I like Rosie Welling: okay. Alberta Polk: that design. Helen Edwards: Yeah it's a g I mean you could have a you know a Rosie Welling: Is that just switches on the speech recognition and it's entirely speech operated, is it? Helen Edwards: Right. Rosie Welling: Yeah. Helen Edwards: So I think I I missed the budget thing, it was fifty million Euros? Rosie Welling: Yeah. Helen Edwards: And we gotta sell twenty five of them? Alberta Polk: Yeah, Helen Edwards: Right. Alberta Polk: not a problem. Sherri Foslien: Fifty Helen Edwards: Okay. Sherri Foslien: million Rosie Welling: Ah now Sherri Foslien: was Rosie Welling: it's fif Sherri Foslien: uh Rosie Welling: fifty Sherri Foslien: prof Rosie Welling: million Euros we've gotta uh Sherri Foslien: As a profit. Rosie Welling: we've Helen Edwards: Oh okay, Rosie Welling: g Helen Edwards: so I I Rosie Welling: gotta Helen Edwards: mixed Rosie Welling: make Helen Edwards: those Rosie Welling: profit, Helen Edwards: numbers. Rosie Welling: so we're making that at twelve and a half Helen Edwards: Okay. Rosie Welling: Euros a time. Helen Edwards: Well I guess more realistically then, we need a product that's got some kinda nifty outer casing, cheap plastic uh, you know, um Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: that should be just like uh a tenth of the price maybe or less. An energy source which'd probably just be uh your regular batteries Rosie Welling: Okay. Helen Edwards: um, we don't Rosie Welling: Would Helen Edwards: wanna Rosie Welling: it Helen Edwards: have Rosie Welling: be Helen Edwards: it Rosie Welling: possible to have the rechargeable idea? Is that is Helen Edwards: Uh. Rosie Welling: that gonna Alberta Polk: Or Rosie Welling: mark Alberta Polk: a little Rosie Welling: up Alberta Polk: base Rosie Welling: a lot? Alberta Polk: station or Rosie Welling: Yeah. Alberta Polk: something, Helen Edwards: Yeah, yeah, we could do that too. Um, I hadn't thought of that. Yeah. Alberta Polk: That might cost more though, 'cause obviously with batteries we don't need to provide, well we provide the first batteries, but Rosie Welling: Yeah, yeah. Alberta Polk: it's more, it's that's cheaper Helen Edwards: Right. Rosie Welling: I mean Alberta Polk: to Rosie Welling: if Alberta Polk: just Rosie Welling: you think Alberta Polk: provide Rosie Welling: about Alberta Polk: batteries. Rosie Welling: these base stations now it's essentially just a a lead with a sort of Alberta Polk: A Rosie Welling: self Alberta Polk: battery in it, Rosie Welling: connecting Alberta Polk: kinda. Rosie Welling: brake in it, so Helen Edwards: Right, Rosie Welling: I don't Alberta Polk: Okay. Helen Edwards: so Rosie Welling: think it'd up up Helen Edwards: so the Rosie Welling: the price that much. Helen Edwards: unirs Alberta Polk: Okay. Helen Edwards: the user interface uh the canonical user interface for these would be just a bunch of buttons, but since we're a cutting edge company, we uh of course will have alternatives like uh speech recognition, whistling recognition and rocket power Rosie Welling: Okay. Helen Edwards: behind our product. Um and lastly the transmission interface is uh, just some engineering thing you don't have to worry about. Rosie Welling: Okay. Helen Edwards: Um so here's you know, a great schematic that my uh apprentice designer gave Sherri Foslien. Um as you can see the the remote control have parts and those parts look like that and um you know it's got a little operating procedure that looks something like that. And I suppose you all know how it works because we've all used it and we wouldn't be in a company designing remote controls if we didn't know what they were so uh personal preferences, I think uh programmable options which um just require a small amount of memory, uh non volatile memory, just um Alberta Polk: Mm. Helen Edwards: so the user can put in their favourite channels and maybe their preferred volume settings so that when they turn it on it's not blasting. Alberta Polk: Mm that's a good idea actually I like the programmable Sherri Foslien: Yeah, Alberta Polk: options. Sherri Foslien: Sherri Foslien too. Helen Edwards: Oh okay. And the uh, the bells and whistles that we mentioned you know, they take more budgeting, um more technical uh expenditure of effort and it's also much more likely to not work if Rosie Welling: Right. Alberta Polk: Mm 'kay. Helen Edwards: if we add these bells and whistles. Rosie Welling: Yeah. Helen Edwards: That's all I got. Rosie Welling: 'Kay, thank you very much, um I'll take that back. Helen Edwards: Ooh that's tight. Rosie Welling: Right, also so um a notice I got not very long before the meeting, so didn't manage to forward it on to you, it is let's see, I'll find it myself, um Ta Helen Edwards: Okay, I don't think we need to screw it in. Rosie Welling: nah. Helen Edwards: Just push it. Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Rosie Welling: We had that um to dis-include teletext um because it's become outdated, and everybody uses the internet anyway. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: Um, dunno what Oracle would have to say with that but never mind. Um it's only for the television, which I'm presuming means it's for a specific television, Alberta Polk: Okay. Rosie Welling: and um instead of colours and sorta colour options, they want corporate colour and slogan somehow implemented in the new design. Alberta Polk: Corporate colour. Rosie Welling: Yellow. Alberta Polk: Okay. Helen Edwards: Yellow. Rosie Welling: I presume. Um, everything, all their sort of uh you know the uh corporate website and everything's yellow. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: electronics uh I don't know exactly how sort of incorpor I mean, I guess if you're going for a sort of globular shape you could kind of have it working its way round it or Alberta Polk: Yeah. Rosie Welling: something. Uh, Alberta Polk: Okay. Rosie Welling: where am I? Okay, so, we have to decide on which functions we're going to actually have. Alberta Polk: 'Kay. Rosie Welling: Uh, now, we had as listed options we had speech recognition potentially, flat screen interface, L_C_D_ interface um we also want to limit the number of buttons Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: so we'll pretty much take that one as read. We'll Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: use the the basic functions for a television. No teletext. Um okay Alberta Polk: Although Rosie Welling: hold Alberta Polk: the Rosie Welling: on. Alberta Polk: the danger with that is, it could look a bit cheap. Rosie Welling: Not enough buttons you mean? Alberta Polk: Yeah. Well Rosie Welling: So sorta strike a balance between a a few and a Alberta Polk: Mm. Rosie Welling: or it looks like we're just cutting on the um Alberta Polk: On the number of buttons, kind of Rosie Welling: I Alberta Polk: functions Rosie Welling: do however Alberta Polk: and stuff. Rosie Welling: have this from over my head, Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm, okay. Rosie Welling: that they don't want teletext on it. Alberta Polk: Okay, cool. Rosie Welling: Uh maybe Raj you could find out what people would think about that, or maybe they'll send Sherri Foslien: About Rosie Welling: some information Sherri Foslien: cost. Rosie Welling: about that, about um what people, whether people would require um teletext in a remote teletext option in a remote control. Sherri Foslien: Okay. Rosie Welling: Okay um. So uh I take it your position Arlo is that the bells and whistles we've gotta come up with the a gimmick but not too complicated a gimmick. Helen Edwards: Yeah yeah. Rosie Welling: Um so I mean a a the sort of inkling I'm getting from little bits of um web chatter that I'm getting sent is that they're quite interested in a T_F_T_ display, interactive display. However that does sound a bit like the more complicated design that rav uh sorry Raj um said people didn't like. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm, Rosie Welling: Although Alberta Polk: mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: I guess if there's a sort of If you think about standard interfaces that people use already, sort of Windows-style Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: drop down menus or whatever, I think maybe that's a Alberta Polk: Yeah. Rosie Welling: bit, going a bit far but you know like in a basic sense that you could have your basic selection of buttons, and if you hit a sort of menu at the top you have um it goes to a different selection of buttons, Alberta Polk: Yeah. Rosie Welling: so it sorta keeps it simple. Alberta Polk: Okay. Rosie Welling: Um glow in the dark, is that sort of with a light inside it or is it sort of Alberta Polk: Um Rosie Welling: glow in the dark material? Sherri Foslien: Uh. Alberta Polk: Glow in the dark material Rosie Welling: Okay. Alberta Polk: I was thinking. Rosie Welling: So Alberta Polk: Um, Sherri Foslien: I Alberta Polk: so I I guess that would be cheaper than a light Sherri Foslien: Uh may Alberta Polk: I Rosie Welling: Yeah. Alberta Polk: think. Sherri Foslien: I say something about? Rosie Welling: Yeah. Sherri Foslien: Uh actually I think it's really really very important point uh as if we look at the market because people mor fifty percent people they find that the remote controls are often lost somewhere in the remote, in the room. But Alberta Polk: Often lost s was Rosie Welling: Lost, Alberta Polk: that, Sherri Foslien: yeah Alberta Polk: yeah. Sherri Foslien: are Rosie Welling: yeah. Sherri Foslien: lost and means they forget where they have kept the remote control last time. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Sherri Foslien: But if we add speech recognition as well as glow in the dark then both these factors will help their locating the Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Sherri Foslien: remote control, like if they come and speak something at the remote control uh replies to something something and it glows in the dark. Both these factors uh both these points will help them to locate the Rosie Welling: That's Sherri Foslien: where Rosie Welling: cool. Sherri Foslien: they have Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm, Sherri Foslien: kept this remote control, Alberta Polk: mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: That's Sherri Foslien: and Rosie Welling: cool. Sherri Foslien: this will definitely enhance our uh market sales, so we should take it into consideration also. Rosie Welling: Okay, cool. Um Helen Edwards: Well hmm. Rosie Welling: speech recognition I take it Helen Edwards: Oh Rosie Welling: I don't, Helen Edwards: it's Rosie Welling: I've I know of no products um Helen Edwards: They're act Rosie Welling: that Helen Edwards: there Rosie Welling: use Helen Edwards: there Rosie Welling: speech Helen Edwards: was Rosie Welling: recognition Helen Edwards: a remote control Rosie Welling: well. Helen Edwards: that came out two years ago that had a some basic speech recognition on it. You could programme it with your channels and then you say you know like uh B_B_C_ one and it goes to that channel. Rosie Welling: Really? Helen Edwards: Yeah, it didn't work very well though because of this noise interference problem. Alberta Polk: Mm. Rosie Welling: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: They mentioned you know if the television says you are listening to B_B_C_ one. Rosie Welling: Yeah, or a yeah an advert an advert for B_B_C_ two on B_B_C_ one'll switch the channel for you kinda thing. Helen Edwards: Right, right, and so there was a lot of this, you'd be watching the T_V_ and then all of a sudden it'd it'd pick up a noise and turn it off or you know Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: or Rosie Welling: Mm. Helen Edwards: turn the volume off or something, Alberta Polk: 'Kay. Helen Edwards: but if you can work around that that noise problem Rosie Welling: Uh-huh. Alberta Polk: Well what about this might get a bit too expensive actually, but what about um something that's built into the T_V_ um that you can press and it'll send out a little signal you know like the ones that we can't hear or something Rosie Welling: Ah, that's a good idea. Alberta Polk: um that that will activate the remote control starts Helen Edwards: Right. Alberta Polk: to beep. Rosie Welling: So like a kind Alberta Polk: If Rosie Welling: of Alberta Polk: you find Rosie Welling: backwards Alberta Polk: if y Rosie Welling: remote from the telly. Helen Edwards: Right Alberta Polk: Yeah. Helen Edwards: and then it would do just you know, uh subtractive kind of cancellation of the noise. What you could do then would be you have uh a remote controlled by the T_V_ speaker, or not a remo I'm sorry, a microphone by the T_V_ speaker and a transmitter there that sends back to your remote, 'cause you can't um expect uh the the television manufacturers to Alberta Polk: Mm. Helen Edwards: to put that feature into their Alberta Polk: Yeah, Helen Edwards: T_V_s. Alberta Polk: that's the only thing, yeah. Helen Edwards: But Rosie Welling: Right. Helen Edwards: yeah, then you have like the little se separate module by Rosie Welling: That Helen Edwards: the Rosie Welling: we Helen Edwards: T_V_ Rosie Welling: should just stick Helen Edwards: speaker Rosie Welling: on, yeah. Alberta Polk: That Helen Edwards: which Alberta Polk: comes with our remote control. Helen Edwards: Right, Rosie Welling: Yeah. Helen Edwards: and then Alberta Polk: Yeah. Helen Edwards: the remote control would know um Rosie Welling: And that's Helen Edwards: what's Rosie Welling: a Helen Edwards: being produced by Rosie Welling: sort Helen Edwards: the television. Rosie Welling: of basic R_F_ kind Helen Edwards: Right, Rosie Welling: of Helen Edwards: right. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: frequency so it'll be cheap. Helen Edwards: Right, right. Um. Yeah that's certainly possible then an another thing was about this losing the remote and trying to find it again. If you do have this sorta speech interface to it, you don't even need to find it. You just say you know, um whatever you whatever you want the remote for, you know to change the channel or to uh turn the T_V_ on and off, you just shout your command to it and it would do it for you if it's within you know, within hearing range. Rosie Welling: Uh-huh. Helen Edwards: And uh you know it could be somewhere in the room y that you've no idea where it is and it would still do its job. Alberta Polk: That could also be built into the T_V_ though, which might make our remote control a bit obsolete. Rosie Welling: Yeah. Helen Edwards: Well, hopefully Rosie Welling: It might Helen Edwards: we're Rosie Welling: do Helen Edwards: uh Rosie Welling: us out of a job. Helen Edwards: we're ahead Alberta Polk: Yeah, Helen Edwards: of the curve. Alberta Polk: okay. Rosie Welling: Um Okay. I like the whole sort of remote feedback thing. Um so I think rather than and that also kind of takes out the speech recognition Alberta Polk: Mm. Rosie Welling: in terms of the interference of it not working very well and things like that, Helen Edwards: Hmm. Alberta Polk: And the expense. Rosie Welling: so I th yeah and expense Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: and the time. So I think if we're going to go well I mean like the thing about the there's the problem with the T_F_T_ or the L_C_D_ kind of thing is if you're also wanting the the kind of uh organic globby sort of feeling to it then you might have trouble incorporating the screen. Alberta Polk: Mm. Rosie Welling: Um, but I guess not I thin we'll just we'll just pretend that's not a problem. Um uh and how are you about the glow in the dark material? Is that Helen Edwards: Um. Alberta Polk: Maybe not even all of it 'cause we said um colours and fashion w were important so maybe um just like a little l line that's kind of around the outside Helen Edwards: Mm. Alberta Polk: and then you can make the rest a different Rosie Welling: Contrast Alberta Polk: colour. Rosie Welling: contra Helen Edwards: Yeah, Rosie Welling: well. Helen Edwards: no th the material's cheap but it's just uh the the glow in the dark material needs some light to charge it you know, Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: and Rosie Welling: Yeah, Helen Edwards: then uh Rosie Welling: okay. Helen Edwards: if you're, Rosie Welling: So if Helen Edwards: if Rosie Welling: it's Helen Edwards: you're Rosie Welling: dow Helen Edwards: sitting Rosie Welling: it's Helen Edwards: in the dark Rosie Welling: d uh Helen Edwards: for Rosie Welling: yeah. Helen Edwards: too long it uh it won't glow Rosie Welling: Or Helen Edwards: any Rosie Welling: if Helen Edwards: more. Rosie Welling: it's down under the couch cushions Helen Edwards: Right. Rosie Welling: um which is where I usually find mine. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: Right. Rosie Welling: Um Okay, well we can use we can still use the glow in the dark as a gimmick essentially, Alberta Polk: Yeah, 'cause Rosie Welling: um Alberta Polk: what I thought, main Rosie Welling: if we're gonna have to if we're gonna have the logo on as well, bright yellow logo in our our um slogan. Alberta Polk: Slogan, yeah. Rosie Welling: Uh then you know they're gonna be fairly brightly coloured anyway, and Alberta Polk: Right. Rosie Welling: we can have sort of a a a trimming as well, of Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: the glow in the dark material, just as gimmickyness. Alberta Polk: 'Cause yeah, that w more than finding it, that was more like you know if you're watching a film in the dark, Rosie Welling: Mm-hmm. Alberta Polk: you can um Helen Edwards: Mm-hmm. Alberta Polk: still see the remote control. Rosie Welling: Alright, so n sorta Alberta Polk: That was more Rosie Welling: if Alberta Polk: of a Rosie Welling: if Alberta Polk: a gimmick. Rosie Welling: if we're gon if we're gonna go with the idea of um uh of feedback, sort of remote finder, then that kinda stuffs that one out then. Do you think? Alberta Polk: Mm. Rosie Welling: Uh it makes it fairly unnecessary then. Alberta Polk: Yeah, unnecessary. Rosie Welling: Okay. Alberta Polk: Yeah. Rosie Welling: Um, okay so scratch that. Uh so we've got do we want to go with the T_F_T_ idea or the Helen Edwards: Um Rosie Welling: is that Helen Edwards: yeah we're getting Rosie Welling: far Helen Edwards: a lot Rosie Welling: too Helen Edwards: of features Rosie Welling: expensive? Helen Edwards: now, I I think Rosie Welling: Well I mean I think I think the sort of find the finder things I mean it's uh I could probably write the circuit diagram for that myself. Helen Edwards: Yeah. Rosie Welling: Um Helen Edwards: Well, I think a consideration too is that these uh remotes get abused a lot, you know they get thrown Alberta Polk: Mm. Helen Edwards: around, there's a good chance the the T_F_T_ screen would break Rosie Welling: Mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: or uh get damaged. They're pretty fragile. Alberta Polk: So is Rosie Welling: Okay. Alberta Polk: that one of our definite requirements that they wa that it needs a T_F_T_ Rosie Welling: Um Alberta Polk: screen? Rosie Welling: no, I mean that was going on ravs uh Raj's sort of um marketing research I guess. Um Uh So we'll stick with sort of programmability um for the buttons that we do have. Um. So that's sort of included in your sub-module kind of stuff, um Helen Edwards: Yeah mm. Rosie Welling: Uh you were finding out about teletext. If you Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Rosie Welling: could find out that uh Sherri Foslien: Totally, it takes cheap speech recognition, she Rosie Welling: Um I think Sherri Foslien: they Rosie Welling: we're gonna Sherri Foslien: wi Rosie Welling: scratch the speech recognition as a bit of a Helen Edwards: Oh. Rosie Welling: um Alberta Polk: Yeah you think so? Rosie Welling: expensive, no? Helen Edwards: Oh no it's it's much cheaper than the T_F_T_, it's just a microphone Rosie Welling: Oh right, okay. Helen Edwards: and some some integrated circuits. Rosie Welling: Is it Helen Edwards: And Rosie Welling: not Helen Edwards: it'd Rosie Welling: the circuits Helen Edwards: it'd be a small Rosie Welling: that Helen Edwards: vocabulary Rosie Welling: cost Helen Edwards: speech recognition system, like a Rosie Welling: Oh right, okay. Uh Alberta Polk: Okay. Rosie Welling: well that kind of takes back the R_F_ the R_F_ remote sort of idea as well. Um. Five minutes. Okay. Decisions. Uh, votes, let's vote. Who wants T_F_T_? No-one does. Excellent, so we'll go with speech recognition, yeah? Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm, Helen Edwards: Okay. Alberta Polk: that's Rosie Welling: Um, Alberta Polk: cool. Rosie Welling: speech recognition, limited buttons, organic design. Alberta Polk: Um Rosie Welling: And what else was I thinking of that I haven't written down and therefore fallen out my head, programmability. Sherri Foslien: Glow in dark. Rosie Welling: Uh Alberta Polk: if it's not too expensive s I think it's a good Rosie Welling: Uh Alberta Polk: gimmick. Rosie Welling: o Helen Edwards: Yeah. Rosie Welling: okay. And also, integrating the, remember to integrate the logo and the s slogan. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm. Rosie Welling: Okay, so. Um can you put all these reports in the project documents folder if they're not already in there as well. So, it just helps Sherri Foslien Helen Edwards: Yeah Sherri Foslien: Here? Rosie Welling: summarize Helen Edwards: yeah. Rosie Welling: them. Sherri Foslien: Sure. Rosie Welling: And um I'll put any I'm I'm putting anything I do in there anyway, so uh Alberta Polk: And where is it sorry? Rosie Welling: Uh pro uh project documents. On Helen Edwards: So it should be when you save Rosie Welling: A_M_I_ scenario controller. Helen Edwards: on your desktop, so it goes save as, Alberta Polk: Oh. Helen Edwards: or Sherri Foslien: Uh it is in shared documents? Helen Edwards: And then uh hit that little folder up thing Rosie Welling: Where Helen Edwards: again. Rosie Welling: am I? Sherri Foslien: Projoct Rosie Welling: Project Sherri Foslien: uh projector. Helen Edwards: Again. Rosie Welling: documents, yeah, it's on your desktop Helen Edwards: All the Rosie Welling: as Helen Edwards: way Rosie Welling: well. Helen Edwards: to the top, yeah that's up to desktop. Right and then project documents. Alberta Polk: Okay, cool. Sherri Foslien: Hmm. It is not giving anything. Shared documents. Rosie Welling: And I will tr getting strings of um information, I'll try and forward any specific to anybody in particular, as soon as I get them now, rather than I was about to sort of tell you about the changes before the meeting, and then the meeting turned up, so Alberta Polk: Okay. Helen Edwards: Mm. Did you get my email? Rosie Welling: I did. Helen Edwards: Okay. Just making sure. Alberta Polk: Okay. Rosie Welling: So Alberta Polk: What I thought as well about the material is um maybe not this kind of material, but maybe more like um this kind of rubbery material, it's a bit more bouncy, like you said they get chucked around a lot. Um, a bit more durable and Rosie Welling: Okay. Alberta Polk: that can also be ergonomic and it kind of feels a bit different Rosie Welling: Yeah. Alberta Polk: from all the other remote controls. The rubber Helen Edwards: Yeah. Alberta Polk: rather than Rosie Welling: More sort of um flesh-like than plasticky sort of. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Helen Edwards: Wow. Sherri Foslien: Um but we have to take care like But we have to take care of our children also if they means if children catch hold of your or if they chew it it shouldn't be too harmful. So, whatever material we use Rosie Welling: Oh no, ethics, Sherri Foslien: it should be Rosie Welling: that's Sherri Foslien: yeah. Rosie Welling: gonna cost us money. Sherri Foslien: So we have to safety point of view also, Rosie Welling: Okay, Sherri Foslien: we have to Rosie Welling: safety. Sherri Foslien: take care. Alberta Polk: Oh I think wi with the more organic shape of it it won't be as it won't as have many sharp corners as that, so that's something Rosie Welling: Yeah. Alberta Polk: good, um I dunno, Rosie Welling: It Helen Edwards: We Rosie Welling: sme Helen Edwards: could Alberta Polk: I mean Helen Edwards: go Rosie Welling: smells Helen Edwards: comp Rosie Welling: good for children. Helen Edwards: yeah. Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Helen Edwards: We could go completely out of the box and make the thing a big red ball foam ball. And it's got the thing on the inside. And there's no buttons at all, it's always on, and just yell at it, Alberta Polk: That's Helen Edwards: and it works. Alberta Polk: a good Rosie Welling: That Alberta Polk: idea. Rosie Welling: sounds, Helen Edwards: And then Rosie Welling: yeah Helen Edwards: ch children Alberta Polk: Interesting. Rosie Welling: it's gonna Helen Edwards: will Rosie Welling: have Helen Edwards: love Rosie Welling: to be Helen Edwards: it. Rosie Welling: it's gonna be have a big yellow Helen Edwards: Oh Rosie Welling: foam Helen Edwards: yellow, Rosie Welling: ball, Helen Edwards: yellow Alberta Polk: Yeah, Rosie Welling: yeah, Helen Edwards: ball. Alberta Polk: d Rosie Welling: sorry. Helen Edwards: Right. Alberta Polk: with the colour, um does it have to be all yellow, do you know? Rosie Welling: Please God no. Um. Alberta Polk: No. Rosie Welling: Well, I wouldn't th I mean, my reaction to an all-yellow remote control wouldn't be anything other than horror, so Alberta Polk: Yeah. Rosie Welling: I think just having it Sherri Foslien: Small Alberta Polk: Having Rosie Welling: surrounding Sherri Foslien: logo Alberta Polk: a little bit. Rosie Welling: the logo. Sherri Foslien: with Alberta Polk: Okay Sherri Foslien: the Alberta Polk: cool. Sherri Foslien: like a small yellow strip or y yellow with the Alberta Polk: Mm Sherri Foslien: logo Alberta Polk: mm. Sherri Foslien: in it. Rosie Welling: Yeah. Alberta Polk: Mm-hmm, okay. Cool. Rosie Welling: And I'll see if I can argue with boss about putting the what was it? We put we put fashion into Whoops, it's not working. Can't believe I've forgotten it. We put the fashion in electronics. Alberta Polk: Oh yeah, that's Rosie Welling: I Alberta Polk: a good one that. Yeah Rosie Welling: bet Alberta Polk: so. Rosie Welling: that'll catch on well. Okay, any last Sherri Foslien: Yeah. Rosie Welling: worries, queries? Helen Edwards: Twelve thirty. Rosie Welling: Okay. S Sherri Foslien: Hmm. Rosie Welling: s I know what you're thinking. Okay then, lunchtime, yay. Sherri Foslien: That's good. Rosie Welling: Okay, that felt a bit more like a something with order and and reason to it than the last one. This is quite fun actually. Alberta Polk: Wow. Helen Edwards: Mm. Alberta Polk: Has anybo oh. Rosie Welling: I really Alberta Polk: Has anybody Rosie Welling: don't Alberta Polk: pressed okay, it vibrates. It's Rosie Welling: Yeah, Alberta Polk: pretty Rosie Welling: yeah. Alberta Polk: cool. Helen Edwards: Yep. Sherri Foslien: Check here. Rosie Welling: Wow you've your first page. I Alberta Polk: Yeah, Rosie Welling: was just writing really Alberta Polk: got small Rosie Welling: big. Alberta Polk: writing. Helen Edwards: Yeah I've been using up the pages. Alberta Polk: I don't wanna waste it. Rosie Welling: I've finished the meeting now. Oh, everybody Helen Edwards: Another Rosie Welling: needs Helen Edwards: questionnaire. Rosie Welling: k questionnaire.

Sherri Foslien presented requirements of users as found in a company market study. The study showed that users want a fancier-looking but uncomplicated remote control, and are interested in speech recognition. He presented the age groups polled and said that the target marketing group should be users aged fifteen to thirty-five. Alberta Polk presented several competitors' remotes and discussed the features that would make their own device more user-friendly. Helen Edwards gave a presentation on important internal components that would keep the project within its budget, and discussed possible materials and programmable features. Rosie Welling gave several new requirements for the project to the group. The group discussed the features they would like to incorporate into the design in light of the new requirements and budget constraints. They decided to keep speech recognition as one of their components, and decided to include some programmable features, limit the number of button functions, and make the remote yellow and glow-in-the-dark, in an organic shape. The Program Manager said that he would ask to what extent the company motto had to be incorporated into the design.

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Gloria Wilson: Um we are So the meeting will have about the same format as the last time. So switching over I've just left uh Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Gloria Wilson: my first two screens. Um I have mailed you the minutes of the last meeting uh just to save time. Penny Calico: Okay. Cool. Gloria Wilson: Um and is there any questions you have that arised from last meeting that are particularly bothering you? Penny Calico: Mm um. Gloria Wilson: N Penny Calico: No I don't think so. Gloria Wilson: No? Okay, cool. Patricia Barksdale: No. Gloria Wilson: Then we shall start with a presentation from Raj. Tammy Walters: Yeah. Hi, Tammy Walters Raj, again Uh. in this meeting I I'm going to discuss about the trend watching, uh how these trends is going to affect our market potential and how important is this. So we have to look on this. First of all methodology. The met methodology to find out the trend was incl uh was done in a way We have done a rec not only a recent remote control market survey, but we also considered the latest fre fashion trends of the market, we think that this is also a factor which will affect our sales and profit. So what are our findings? In our uh in our findings we have seen that when we did our remote control market survey we found that uh people l uh people do have preference for tho fancy mobi uh f remote controls which look and feel very good, rather than having a functional look and feel uh good. So this sh this clearly indicates their preference for the design their outlook of the remote controls. So we should take into uh we should consider this factor as the most important factor, because this factor is twice as important, the second factor which is further ti twice the as important as the sec as uh the third factor. So this factor becomes the most important factor in our surv uh uh in our mark uh means in take in designing our rem uh remote controls. Penny Calico: The last one is the most important one, is Tammy Walters: No Penny Calico: it? Tammy Walters: the first Penny Calico: Oh, sorry. Tammy Walters: one is the uh the outlook of the mobile, the it should have a fancy outlook, Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: the fancy design Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: uh rather than just having a functional look and feel good, it should have a fancy look and foo feel good. The second most important aspect is that remote control should be a technologically uh innovative. We must have some technological advancement in the remote control tha rather than just putting it as it is as the other remo uh remote controls are. So it uh should be technologically innovative like glow-in-the-dark or speech recognition, something like that. So that indicates our technological advancement. Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Tammy Walters: And the third most important aspect in the ta to take into consideration is that it should be easy to use, Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Tammy Walters: like it shouldn't be too much co complicated, there shouldn't be too many buttons on this mobi uh remote control, it shouldn't be too complicated uh like this way. And it should be uh and customers should be provided with manuals that is easy to understand in their local language, something. So that they could know how to use these remote controls. When we did uh f fashions uh, recent fashion uh our recent fashion update shows that Penny Calico: Sorry. Tammy Walters: Ah yeah? Penny Calico: I was just reading fruit and vegetables. Hard to know how we are going to incorporate that. Tammy Walters: Y yeah uh yeah, we have to, because uh d you can see how people have related their clothes, shoes, and everything with fruits and vegetables, because the g world is now changing it's trend towards organic, Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: becoming more and Penny Calico: Yeah. Tammy Walters: more organic, becoming Patricia Barksdale: We should make a big sponge lemon and Penny Calico: Yeah. Tammy Walters: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: then it'd be it would be yellow. Tammy Walters: So Penny Calico: Th Patricia Barksdale: It's Yeah. Penny Calico: that's Tammy Walters: Yeah. Penny Calico: very good. Tammy Walters: So something Penny Calico: Glow-in-the-dark. Tammy Walters: like that we we should do. Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: And people uh the f feel of the material is expected to be spongy rather than just having a plastic look, hard look. Penny Calico: Well, that's Patricia Barksdale: Mm. Penny Calico: good. That's Tammy Walters: Yeah. Penny Calico: what we kind of Tammy Walters: Yeah. Penny Calico: predicted Tammy Walters: So Penny Calico: anyway. Tammy Walters: so that they could play with it while handi uh while handling it. Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: So that should also be taken Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: into consideration. So Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: these are my views. So Penny Calico: spongy, not real spongy, you can Tammy Walters: No it Penny Calico: Do Tammy Walters: ca Penny Calico: you think like rubber would be good or does it Tammy Walters: y Penny Calico: really want to be Tammy Walters: a The Penny Calico: like gel kind of Tammy Walters: rubber Penny Calico: stuff? Tammy Walters: which is good for health and which is quite disposable Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: that we Penny Calico: Quite Tammy Walters: can take Penny Calico: disposable. Tammy Walters: into co Yeah. Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: 'Cause we It shouldn't be have any harm to the environment also, Penny Calico: Oh Tammy Walters: because Penny Calico: okay. Gloria Wilson: Alright, Tammy Walters: our company Gloria Wilson: okay. Tammy Walters: is very well for taking all these concerns into consideration, Penny Calico: Uh-huh. Tammy Walters: so we don't want to have any harm to the society, Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: so Gloria Wilson: Fashion. Penny Calico: Cool. Gloria Wilson: Mm Tammy Walters: So Gloria Wilson: 'kay. Tammy Walters: that's all. Gloria Wilson: Fruit and veg, well there you go. Just what I think of Penny Calico: Mm. Gloria Wilson: when I think of a Penny Calico: A remote control? Gloria Wilson: remote control. Penny Calico: Yeah. And were there any factors that weren't important in the survey, that they said we don't want? Tammy Walters: S uh we Penny Calico: Or Tammy Walters: didn't Penny Calico: was it just Tammy Walters: find out any such Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: point. Uh Gloria Wilson: Mm-mm-mm-mm. Tammy Walters: yes, there could be, but we couldn't find out any, Penny Calico: Cool. Tammy Walters: so Gloria Wilson: Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. Penny Calico: F_, what is it? Um. Gloria Wilson: Function F_ eight. Penny Calico: yeah. Gloria Wilson: Hmm. Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: Yeah. Penny Calico: No signal. Tammy Walters: Oh no, Penny Calico: Is that? Patricia Barksdale: No, Tammy Walters: Yeah, Patricia Barksdale: it's got Tammy Walters: uh yeah, Patricia Barksdale: it's got Tammy Walters: uh yeah. Patricia Barksdale: it. Tammy Walters: Yeah. Penny Calico: Okay, Gloria Wilson: Excuse Penny Calico: and then Gloria Wilson: Tammy Walters. Penny Calico: F_ five, right? Gloria Wilson: Uh, yeah. Penny Calico: Okay. Um okay, so the interface concept um. Yeah. The interface specification, what people um how they interact with it basically, I think. Um so the method, we looked at existing designs, what are the what's good about them, what's bad about them, um I looked at their flaws, so we're going to look at their flaws, everything. Um and what the survey told us and what we think would be good, so a bit of imagination. Gloria Wilson: Mm 'kay. Penny Calico: Uh the findings, I've got some pictures to show you as well. Gloria Wilson: either. Penny Calico: Yeah. Tammy Walters: Hmm. Penny Calico: Okay, so most remote controls use graphical interface, where you um have got s buttons and you point it rather than having the output as a a stream of text or something. Gloria Wilson: Uh okay. Penny Calico: Um and we also found that there's inconsistent layout, which makes it confusing. So I think for our remote control There is some inconsistency already in ec existing in between remote controls, but I think standard kind of um shape and uh play and those kind of but buttons like the the top right for on and off or something, I think, Gloria Wilson: Right, Penny Calico: people Gloria Wilson: okay. Penny Calico: find that Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: important,'cause then it's easy to use. And we've got some pictures of some uh new remote controls to show you. Do Gloria Wilson: Excellent. Penny Calico: I press Escape F_ five? Gloria Wilson: Uh Penny Calico: Or Gloria Wilson: no Penny Calico: just Gloria Wilson: just escape Penny Calico: Escape, Gloria Wilson: should Penny Calico: okay. Gloria Wilson: uh Penny Calico: Um, oh I still haven't got my glasses on. Yeah, okay. So these are the some of the pictures of existing ones. Patricia Barksdale: Wow. Penny Calico: I'll just walk you through them. This one is a voice recognition. And Gloria Wilson: 'Kay. Penny Calico: that's the kind Gloria Wilson: Looks Penny Calico: of idea Gloria Wilson: pretty Penny Calico: we're going Gloria Wilson: complicated. Penny Calico: for. There's um an L_C_D_ thing, which we thought could I thought could get a bit confusing and a bit Gloria Wilson: Right, Penny Calico: expensive Gloria Wilson: okay. Penny Calico: as well for us. This one is got a kind of scroll like a mouse, Gloria Wilson: Mm-hmm, Penny Calico: which Gloria Wilson: like the middle button. Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: Okay. Penny Calico: Um and But I'm not exactly sure how you'd use that, like Gloria Wilson: Ah it's Penny Calico: would Gloria Wilson: kinda Penny Calico: the Gloria Wilson: like scrolling Penny Calico: computer Gloria Wilson: uh Penny Calico: come Gloria Wilson: right, well, if I s if I'm thinking of the right one, I've got the same thing in front of my monitor, you scroll it and the when you reach the sort of um menu item that you require, you press the Penny Calico: Uh-huh, Gloria Wilson: middle Penny Calico: that's like Gloria Wilson: of the scroll. Penny Calico: the L_C_D_ one, is Gloria Wilson: Right, Penny Calico: it? Gloria Wilson: okay. Penny Calico: But the one below that has got like a little scroll function on the side. But I presume that the functions must come up on the T_V_ screen. Gloria Wilson: Yeah, Penny Calico: I Gloria Wilson: presumably. Penny Calico: think Tammy Walters: Yeah. Penny Calico: that's what that is. So these are just a few ideas. Again that's just quite boring shape, grey, looks quite space-agey, but too many buttons, I think Gloria Wilson: Yeah, Penny Calico: on Patricia Barksdale: Uh Penny Calico: that Patricia Barksdale: it looks Gloria Wilson: looks Penny Calico: one. Patricia Barksdale: threatening. Gloria Wilson: like uh looks like something out Penny Calico: Yeah, Gloria Wilson: of a jet. Penny Calico: it does look kind of dangerous. Patricia Barksdale: It looks like Tammy Walters: Hmm. Penny Calico: Um Patricia Barksdale: yeah. Penny Calico: this one I thought was really cool. It's w it's got the programmability function that we talked about. You can put it in there, it's for your kids, and it's quite an organic shape and the little circle around there is pretty cool. Gloria Wilson: Okay. Penny Calico: And that's really easy to use, bright, so I like this one lot for our design. I think something like that would be good. Patricia Barksdale: Wow. Gloria Wilson: Yeah, Penny Calico: Of course Gloria Wilson: I m Penny Calico: yellow. Gloria Wilson: I mean the one thing I think about about these ones is um these kl uh secured areas um, I've seen a lot of them with the the cover missing. Penny Calico: Right, Gloria Wilson: So Penny Calico: yeah. Gloria Wilson: like have it hinge rather than sort Penny Calico: Yeah, Gloria Wilson: of clip on Penny Calico: that's Gloria Wilson: or whatever. Penny Calico: true. Yeah. Um so maybe that could be built into one of the things and it comes up on the T_V_ or something. And this one, the over-sized one, I don't know about you, but I think it's a bit too gimmicky. I don't think Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: that will Gloria Wilson: I mean is Penny Calico: sell Gloria Wilson: that not Penny Calico: very Gloria Wilson: sort Penny Calico: well. Gloria Wilson: of to assist the blind or something, is it? Penny Calico: I guess so. I don't know. I think Gloria Wilson: Strange. Patricia Barksdale: Then Penny Calico: that's a bit Patricia Barksdale: d blind don't watch T_V_. Penny Calico: Yeah Gloria Wilson: No they do, Penny Calico: exactly. Gloria Wilson: they do. They Patricia Barksdale: They Gloria Wilson: listen Patricia Barksdale: do? Gloria Wilson: to it. Yeah. Penny Calico: Yeah. And um this one is just pointing out. I like some of these things um the the raised symbols and everything, but pointing out um that this one the volume it is kind of pressing down, but it would actually go up, because Gloria Wilson: Right, Penny Calico: of the Gloria Wilson: okay. Penny Calico: shape. So that could that's a bit confusing. Um but the buttons on this I think are it's just showing you how you can have different different um buttons. They don't have to be all the same. So that's quite cool. Um. Gloria Wilson: 'Kay but people tend to recognise certain shapes to do certain things anyway, Penny Calico: Yeah, Gloria Wilson: don't they? Penny Calico: exactly. Um F_ five. Yes. So there are some of the findings. So we need to combine those ones um Gloria Wilson: Brilliant. That's handy. Penny Calico: Um yeah it is, just in time, very handy. Um so I think maybe incorporating that in our design would be good. It's you Gloria Wilson: Okay. Penny Calico: program it like you say, record, um and then, play, and then, record, play machine, and stuff like that, so that's And it's much Yeah. So that's quite cool. Uh personal preferences just some imagination, the raised symbols I thought were good, the L_C_D_, it does look smart, but I think maybe for our budget, do you think that would be a bit too expensive to have the Patricia Barksdale: The L_C_D_ Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: and the other stuff uh, I think. Penny Calico: And the speech recognition, 'cause I think we're definitely going for the speech recognition, are we? Tammy Walters: But in our market survey we have seen that people are willing to pay more, but Penny Calico: Uh-huh. Tammy Walters: they want the quality, they want f fancy look, they want some new design, something new. Gloria Wilson: Okay. Penny Calico: Uh-huh. Tammy Walters: Uh Penny Calico: But our budget, Gloria Wilson: It's still Tammy Walters: yeah. Gloria Wilson: it's still got Penny Calico: we've Gloria Wilson: to get within Tammy Walters: Yeah. Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: our twelve fifty, Tammy Walters: So even Gloria Wilson: you know. Tammy Walters: if we increase our cost little bit, within uh some limits, and we give something new technological advancement as well as new design with fancy outlook, Penny Calico: Uh-huh. Tammy Walters: I think we will meet the requirements and we will be able to have a good sales Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: in the market. Penny Calico: I'm not Gloria Wilson: Okay. Penny Calico: sure if Patricia Barksdale: Ben Penny Calico: the if Patricia Barksdale: bana Penny Calico: for twenty five Euros uh per uh twelve Euros fifty m Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: manufacturing cost, Gloria Wilson: I can't see tha Although, th I mean Penny Calico: The Gloria Wilson: to Penny Calico: L_C_D_. Gloria Wilson: be to be sure they have got I mean they are going crazy with the L_C_D_ technology now, so that you've got your L_C_D_ T_V_s and everything so maybe the small Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: But I mean like I I the black and white, I guess, it just doesn't look funky enough. Penny Calico: No. Gloria Wilson: Um but, I mean, like even mobile phones or whatever have now have colour L_C_D_ screens, w Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: I ju Patricia Barksdale: Hmm. Penny Calico: S Gloria Wilson: I mean I wouldn't know about the costs of them. Penny Calico: Uh-huh. Patricia Barksdale: But uh Gloria Wilson: Twelve Patricia Barksdale: price Tammy Walters: And Gloria Wilson: fifty. Tammy Walters: the Patricia Barksdale: not withstanding, is it, is be just overload? Tammy Walters: Uh Penny Calico: Yeah, that's Tammy Walters: i Penny Calico: the thing, because Gloria Wilson: Possibly. Tammy Walters: it will be easy because there will be, on L_C_D_ s screen, there will be different frent icons, they can just click Patricia Barksdale: But but Tammy Walters: ok okay, whatever Patricia Barksdale: the Tammy Walters: they Patricia Barksdale: thing Tammy Walters: wa Patricia Barksdale: is when you use a remote control, you never look at it, right? Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: You're looking at the Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: T_V_ Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: and Penny Calico: That's true, yeah. Patricia Barksdale: and it's uh It just seems kind of like a Penny Calico: And one of the Patricia Barksdale: a needless Penny Calico: survey Patricia Barksdale: th Penny Calico: findings was that they want it easy to use, so I Gloria Wilson: Right. Penny Calico: think I'm not sure about the L_C_D_. It's a it's great, it's a good idea, but for our budget and for the thing we're trying to go for eas easy to use, it's not the thing we should go for, I think. Child-friendly, I thought this was good, as you pointed out the um the bit, it often goes missing especially with children, but it's a good shape and the organic is kind of we could make a vegetabley kind of round shape, I think. Patricia Barksdale: So which Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: vegetable? Gloria Wilson: Well I mean we Penny Calico: Yeah, Gloria Wilson: could make a Penny Calico: I know, carrot. Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Well, si Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Gloria Wilson: since we're going for the uh the k the sort of company colours, I think your lemon wasn't that far Patricia Barksdale: The the lemon. Gloria Wilson: s Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Well what are the options? Gloria Wilson: And if it doesn't work you know, Penny Calico: But Gloria Wilson: we've Penny Calico: we don't Gloria Wilson: just Penny Calico: want Gloria Wilson: made Penny Calico: it to Gloria Wilson: a lemon. Penny Calico: be Yeah. Um the child-friendly, yeah. Easy to use, it seems quite easy to use. I like the d the different shapes of the buttons and Gloria Wilson: Mm-hmm. Penny Calico: stuff. I think Gloria Wilson: I Penny Calico: that's Gloria Wilson: like Penny Calico: a good idea Gloria Wilson: I like Penny Calico: to go Gloria Wilson: the colourful Penny Calico: for. Gloria Wilson: buttons as well. Penny Calico: Yeah. And the mouse one, I thought it was a good idea, because people use mo mice mouses now with the scrolling Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: thing. Um. Gloria Wilson: I mean we are marketing to sort of twenty five to thirty Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: five, so most people will have come in contact with that Penny Calico: S yeah. Gloria Wilson: kind of use. Penny Calico: So they'd be able to use that um, as I said I think i I'd presume it would come up on the screen. Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: Um so there Gloria Wilson: And Penny Calico: you Gloria Wilson: that Penny Calico: go. Gloria Wilson: means tha that means you get to bump that bit to the T_V_ maker, so Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Oh. Penny Calico: So that's um the user interface Gloria Wilson: 'Kay. Penny Calico: design. So Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Penny Calico: okay, I'll take this out now then. Patricia Barksdale: Um Penny Calico: There you go. Patricia Barksdale: so I guess there are a lot of options that we're gonna have to choose from among, Gloria Wilson: Yeah, Patricia Barksdale: and Gloria Wilson: looks Patricia Barksdale: I'll Gloria Wilson: like it. Patricia Barksdale: I'll give you the uh, Penny Calico: Mm. Patricia Barksdale: I guess, technical considerations for those. Gloria Wilson: Uh Patricia Barksdale: And I'm gonna use the whiteboard, just 'cause we haven't used it. Gloria Wilson: Yeah, I was just thinking the self same Patricia Barksdale: Right. Gloria Wilson: thing. Patricia Barksdale: So, the way I'm gonna do this is uh we're gonna take a look at some old remote controls, see how they work, uh reuse the the vital kind of um essential pieces of it, and then we'll throw in our new innovations um and keep it all within budget. So uh Gloria Wilson: Magic man. Patricia Barksdale: yeah, looking inside a a very simple remote control. Um this is what they sent Tammy Walters. 'Kay. Here's uh the competition, I suppose. Um you open it up, there's a circuit board inside, Gloria Wilson: Mm-hmm. Patricia Barksdale: um and there's a a chip, a processor, the T_A_ one one eight three five, which um receives input from the buttons, Gloria Wilson: So Patricia Barksdale: and Gloria Wilson: this Patricia Barksdale: ch Gloria Wilson: is a standard off the shelf kind of a chip, is it? Patricia Barksdale: Right, it's very they're very cheap remote. This remote costs nothing, you know. Um so that takes a signals from the buttons and translates it into a sequence of pulses that it then sends to the to the amplifier, which is made of some transistors and amplifiers, op-amps, and then that gets sent to the uh to the L_E_D_ light, which I can kinda see is that little red light bulb Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Patricia Barksdale: at the end, Gloria Wilson: Right. Patricia Barksdale: and that sends out the infrared uh light signal to the television. Oh here it is. Um so this is kind of the the bear essentials that we need to have in our remote control, because Gloria Wilson: Okay. Patricia Barksdale: it it defines Gloria Wilson: So Patricia Barksdale: the uh Gloria Wilson: can we make them to pretty much any size we like or is there a minimum Patricia Barksdale: R Gloria Wilson: or? Patricia Barksdale: Um no, I mean this is a very old one, so now with the new technology this is a Gloria Wilson: They gotta be Patricia Barksdale: a minimally small and cheap thing Gloria Wilson: Almost Patricia Barksdale: to Gloria Wilson: a Patricia Barksdale: make. Gloria Wilson: key-ring. Patricia Barksdale: Right. So this is what we need to have for certain. Um. Gloria Wilson: Okay. Patricia Barksdale: So you know, as we said, we got the outer casing, which we have to decide, you know, what's it gonna be, um the board we have to use basically uh the same set-up, processor, um we'll probably use the more advanced processor than they had, amplifier and transmitter are all standard. Um so for the casing, uh this an e-mail I got from our manufacturing team uh, you know, we have a bunch of options from wood, titanium, rubber, plastic, whatnot, um latex, double-curved, curved. So Gloria Wilson: 'Kay. Patricia Barksdale: lots of choices, what do we think? Uh or Gloria Wilson: Well. Patricia Barksdale: sponge, I guess, isn't on there, right. Penny Calico: Mm. Patricia Barksdale: Organic Gloria Wilson: Well, I mean like Patricia Barksdale: sponge. Penny Calico: I'm Gloria Wilson: la Penny Calico: not Gloria Wilson: latex Penny Calico: sure about the sponge. Gloria Wilson: has a kinda spongy feeling to it, doesn't it. Um Patricia Barksdale: Uh yeah, it's very elasticy for sure. Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: And that would k also give it kinda durability and Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Um. Gloria Wilson: and ther that's also f sorta relatively cheap to cast. Patricia Barksdale: Yeah so Gloria Wilson: Um so maybe s uh a sort of uh plastic initial plastic with a a latex kinda sheath? Patricia Barksdale: Okay so, here are a a plastic, uh latex Penny Calico: I like the rubber, the stress balls, I think, you know, Gloria Wilson: Oh right, Penny Calico: that Gloria Wilson: okay. Penny Calico: could be a bit of a gimmick like it's Patricia Barksdale: Oh Gloria Wilson: I don't Patricia Barksdale: right. Gloria Wilson: know what that Penny Calico: good Gloria Wilson: stuff Penny Calico: to hold Gloria Wilson: is. Penny Calico: and Patricia Barksdale: So something with give to it. Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Penny Calico: And Patricia Barksdale: And Penny Calico: that might be quite durable and easy to chuck around. Patricia Barksdale: and the colour is yellow, right? Penny Calico: Yeah, Gloria Wilson: Or at least Penny Calico: y Gloria Wilson: incorporating, Penny Calico: yellow Gloria Wilson: yeah. Penny Calico: incorporated, Patricia Barksdale: Yellow, Penny Calico: yeah. Patricia Barksdale: okay. Um. Gloria Wilson: I mean I forgot i we're sort of uh I don't know what other Penny Calico: I think Gloria Wilson: standard silver kind of Penny Calico: Mm. Gloria Wilson: Other parts or uh Penny Calico: Yeah, the buttons w like, 'cause there's gonna be the the cover the the rubber or the plastic casing and then the buttons in probably Gloria Wilson: Mm-hmm. Penny Calico: two different colours or i if Patricia Barksdale: Mm' kay. Penny Calico: we're having buttons actually, Patricia Barksdale: So Penny Calico: I Patricia Barksdale: yellow Penny Calico: don Gloria Wilson: Um. Patricia Barksdale: for the body, and then what colour for the buttons? Gloria Wilson: Um I quite like the multi-coloured buttons myself. Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: So multi-coloured buttons. Penny Calico: You do have ones like um play could be green or on and off is red, and stuff like that, yeah. Gloria Wilson: Yeah or yeah a limit uh maybe Penny Calico: Makes Gloria Wilson: even Penny Calico: it Gloria Wilson: just Penny Calico: easy Gloria Wilson: a limited Penny Calico: to use. Gloria Wilson: multi-colour so it it doesn't look too childish, Penny Calico: Yeah, Gloria Wilson: perhaps. Penny Calico: that's true, because that blue one did look Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: quite hardish. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Gloria Wilson: Although I mean this uh uh also comes to shape as well. I mean if we are gonna make it a novel I mean double-curved sounds good to Tammy Walters if Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Gloria Wilson: we're talking Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Gloria Wilson: about sorta ergonomic and easy use, Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Gloria Wilson: a bit comfier, you know. Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Mm 'kay so the shape we wanna go Um how exactly? Maybe double Penny Calico: Like uh an hour glass kind of figure, is that what you're thinking of, or Gloria Wilson: Yeah Penny Calico: just Gloria Wilson: it's uh, Penny Calico: like Gloria Wilson: yeah, Penny Calico: a Gloria Wilson: that that'd be that's sort of comfortable to hold, easy to hold so you don't Penny Calico: It's Gloria Wilson: drop Penny Calico: not Gloria Wilson: it. Patricia Barksdale: What about Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: a banana? Yeah? Penny Calico: We could make novelty remote controls. Patricia Barksdale: Okay, Gloria Wilson: Well, yeah, I mean like Patricia Barksdale: like we could have a big banana shaped remote control, 'cause it's yellow fruit, Gloria Wilson: Yeah, Patricia Barksdale: right? Gloria Wilson: yeah. Mm Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: and a lemon might be a Penny Calico: But Gloria Wilson: little Penny Calico: then how Gloria Wilson: hard Penny Calico: would Gloria Wilson: to Penny Calico: you point Gloria Wilson: grip. Penny Calico: it? Tammy Walters: Ah Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Tammy Walters: yeah. Mm-hmm. Penny Calico: How would you point it? Patricia Barksdale: Oh Penny Calico: What Patricia Barksdale: i it doesn't matter which end you point, I guess. We could have a little L_E_D_s on each end. Gloria Wilson: They only cost pennies. Tammy Walters: Yeah, I appreciate this idea, because then this this will help us in our advertisement also and we can relate with fruits and vegetables, the people's choices. That what our data shows that, Penny Calico: Yeah. Tammy Walters: so this w this Gloria Wilson: Huh? Tammy Walters: w Penny Calico: y I'm I'm not sure about the banana idea. Patricia Barksdale: So a Gloria Wilson: Um. Patricia Barksdale: spongy Penny Calico: Rubber Patricia Barksdale: banana Penny Calico: banana. Gloria Wilson: I mean Patricia Barksdale: re Yeah. Gloria Wilson: that that th Penny Calico: Okay. Gloria Wilson: does it does seem a bit uh again childish maybe. Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Okay, okay. Penny Calico: I think maybe just draw on the kind of fruit and vegetable shape. And what else did you say about fashions? What was trendy? Tammy Walters: Uh the fashion trend shows Gloria Wilson: S Tammy Walters: that fruits and vegetables, Patricia Barksdale: See Tammy Walters: like people uh Gloria Wilson: And sponginess. Tammy Walters: now Penny Calico: And Patricia Barksdale: So Penny Calico: spongy, Patricia Barksdale: maybe an an Tammy Walters: Spongy. Penny Calico: yeah. Patricia Barksdale: unidentifiable fruit or Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: fiable fruit or vegetable Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: like so it would have a stem perhaps and Penny Calico: Maybe, Patricia Barksdale: a Penny Calico: yeah. Patricia Barksdale: maybe a it'd be s Gloria Wilson: Huh. Penny Calico: Like Patricia Barksdale: axially Penny Calico: what's Patricia Barksdale: symmetric. Penny Calico: what's that, I don't even know the name of it, some kind of, you know where it's like looks like a little snowman kind of thing. I don't know the name of that. Patricia Barksdale: So it'd look like this kinda. Penny Calico: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Patricia Barksdale: Like a gourd Gloria Wilson: Uh. Penny Calico: Yeah, Patricia Barksdale: almost, Penny Calico: maybe that's what they are. Patricia Barksdale: or a squash of some sort? Penny Calico: 'Cause that you can hold it in like the bottom bit and Patricia Barksdale: Yeah, and it has a a clear top and bottom so Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: y so you could say, you know, it transmits from this end. Gloria Wilson: Yeah, why the hell not. Let's Penny Calico: I don't know. Gloria Wilson: that'll make us fifty Penny Calico: What do you Gloria Wilson: million Penny Calico: guy Gloria Wilson: Euros. Penny Calico: What do you think? Gloria Wilson: Um. Well, I guess it's kind of dra uh you don't necessarily have to have it sort of clearly identified as a fruit just Penny Calico: No. Gloria Wilson: to have that kind of fruitish shape, Patricia Barksdale: Yeah. Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: yeah? Tammy Walters: Yeah, then only we can relate it Gloria Wilson: Yeah, Tammy Walters: with Gloria Wilson: we Tammy Walters: something. Gloria Wilson: can relate it by advertising Tammy Walters: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: or Tammy Walters: Exactly. Patricia Barksdale: Okay, so double-curved, single-curved, what do we feel? Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Tammy Walters: Or the public choose Penny Calico: Uh-huh. Tammy Walters: what they want. Gloria Wilson: There's Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Gloria Wilson: a good man. There's a good idea. Penny Calico: Okay. Patricia Barksdale: Okay um, I guess, since you're the marketing guy. Tammy Walters: Yeah, sure. Patricia Barksdale: We'll Tammy Walters: I will Patricia Barksdale: uh Tammy Walters: be happy to do that. Patricia Barksdale: Okay, we could do that. Um. Penny Calico: Okay. And buttons would, did we say? Uh different shapes of buttons? Gloria Wilson: Um I l I su I mean for the specific functions, you know, up and down, uh Penny Calico: Mm. Gloria Wilson: play, stop. Patricia Barksdale: Okay, Gloria Wilson: They've Patricia Barksdale: so Gloria Wilson: got, I mean, they've got standard sort of intuitive um Patricia Barksdale: so buttons. Gloria Wilson: things that are always used. Patricia Barksdale: Okay, just like that. Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: That's cool. I like it. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Gloria Wilson: Um. Patricia Barksdale: With the scroll-wheel or no? Penny Calico: Yeah, what about the scroll wheel and speech recognition? Gloria Wilson: Uh speech recognition, I think, so we need a microphone presumably. Patricia Barksdale: Okay uh I could put the microphone here. Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Patricia Barksdale: Okay there's the microphone. Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Where should I put Gloria Wilson: I mean Patricia Barksdale: the Gloria Wilson: ho Patricia Barksdale: microphone? Gloria Wilson: h h wel are we sure that scroll wheel does give ease of use? Penny Calico: Yeah, I'm not sure. Um I mean those ideas I saw were just for inspiration, I think. Gloria Wilson: Glad, we're not doing Penny Calico: Um Gloria Wilson: this for real. Penny Calico: yeah, I can no I'm not sure. I couldn Yeah. Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Gloria Wilson: And uh I think if this this new software for the sound recognition is the Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Gloria Wilson: microphone Patricia Barksdale: So should the microphone be just anywhere on it or Gloria Wilson: I would put it sort of sub-centrally, so it's Yeah. Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: 'Kay there's the mic. Gloria Wilson: So it can be sort of Penny Calico: That's Gloria Wilson: held Penny Calico: cool. Gloria Wilson: and w We really need really gonna need to hold it, if it's gonna be voice recognition. Patricia Barksdale: Um n well we can Whoops. Gloria Wilson: Oops. Patricia Barksdale: Um. Gloria Wilson: Um. Penny Calico: So let's not use the whiteboard any more. Patricia Barksdale: Yeah. Um. Gloria Wilson: Upsidaisy. Patricia Barksdale: Oops, sorry. Okay. Penny Calico: And uh so what else was there? Um the What about the glow-in-the-dark thing, the strip around it? Are we just gonna Gloria Wilson: I Penny Calico: leave Gloria Wilson: s Penny Calico: that? Gloria Wilson: I still like it. Um Penny Calico: You still like it. Gloria Wilson: but that's Tammy Walters. Penny Calico: 'Cause we've got the uh technological innovation with the speech Patricia Barksdale: Right. Penny Calico: recognition Gloria Wilson: Yes, Penny Calico: system. Gloria Wilson: or maybe it's just going a bit uh too far. I mean we are pushing it probably with Penny Calico: 'Cause Gloria Wilson: funny Penny Calico: um it Gloria Wilson: fruit Penny Calico: could Gloria Wilson: shapes. Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: Um don't wanna sort of overkill. Penny Calico: Especially with yellow. Mm. I dunno. Patricia Barksdale: Hmm. Gloria Wilson: 'Cause I mean like uh if we I mean how good is the speech recognition thing? Do we want to go for buttons at all, do we want to just have a device that maybe sits and pretends it's a fruit? Penny Calico: Then you put it in the fruit bowl? Gloria Wilson: Yeah, you know, and then Patricia Barksdale: They Gloria Wilson: you Patricia Barksdale: can Gloria Wilson: just Patricia Barksdale: work Gloria Wilson: tal Patricia Barksdale: from Gloria Wilson: I Patricia Barksdale: a Gloria Wilson: mean Patricia Barksdale: You don't Gloria Wilson: like Patricia Barksdale: have Gloria Wilson: everybody's Patricia Barksdale: to hold it. Gloria Wilson: got fruit bowl in front of the telly. Patricia Barksdale: Yeah. Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Gloria Wilson: Um. Patricia Barksdale: I it could even encourage healthier habits for television watchers, Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: you know they have Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: uh fruits Gloria Wilson: Make them Patricia Barksdale: all round Gloria Wilson: make Patricia Barksdale: them. Gloria Wilson: them think Patricia Barksdale: Now Gloria Wilson: of fruit, yeah. Tammy Walters: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: just make sure they don't eat the remote. Gloria Wilson: I mean uh Penny Calico: Yeah, do we Gloria Wilson: some Penny Calico: need buttons? Gloria Wilson: uh I l like think of a fruit that could sit sort of independently on its own like uh, I dunno, an apple. Penny Calico: Mm. Gloria Wilson: Then it's just apple so sort of Uh, Patricia Barksdale: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: yellow apples though Hmm. Penny Calico: I quite like the shape. I quite like the design of that, uh 'cause that could sit on its own and Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: it's quite Gloria Wilson: Okay, Penny Calico: got Gloria Wilson: yeah, Penny Calico: a quite Gloria Wilson: that's Penny Calico: steady Gloria Wilson: good. Penny Calico: base. Gloria Wilson: Groovy. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Penny Calico: Um Patricia Barksdale: But Penny Calico: and Patricia Barksdale: yeah Penny Calico: as we say we n we don't wanna be too ridiculous with the fruit things Gloria Wilson: Yeah, Penny Calico: you know. Patricia Barksdale: But yeah, about the speech thing, it doesn't have to be hand held or close. It can sit at a distance and Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: pick Penny Calico: Okay. Patricia Barksdale: it up Gloria Wilson: So Patricia Barksdale: still. Gloria Wilson: I mean like you could actually Yeah, Tammy Walters: Or Gloria Wilson: gives you Tammy Walters: we Gloria Wilson: the Tammy Walters: can Gloria Wilson: options. Tammy Walters: we can do one thing, we can just have a remote control and casings of different different shapes, different fruit shapes Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Tammy Walters: in such a way that a any casing can be could be fit into this mobile general piece. Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Tammy Walters: So whatever people want, like if somebody want it in banana shape, we will put that casing onto that mobile phone, Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Tammy Walters: okay, Gloria Wilson: So a selection Tammy Walters: it will look Gloria Wilson: of casings. Tammy Walters: l Uh yeah. Penny Calico: Yeah, Tammy Walters: In Gloria Wilson: It Tammy Walters: that Gloria Wilson: kind Penny Calico: 'cause Gloria Wilson: of Penny Calico: you Gloria Wilson: fi Tammy Walters: w Penny Calico: said Gloria Wilson: it fits Penny Calico: about disposable, Gloria Wilson: with f fits with Penny Calico: didn't Gloria Wilson: marketing Penny Calico: you? Tammy Walters: S s Gloria Wilson: um Tammy Walters: sorry? Penny Calico: You said about disposable earli people want disposable things so Tammy Walters: Uh Penny Calico: we could Tammy Walters: like Penny Calico: do that, Tammy Walters: if Penny Calico: like Tammy Walters: this Penny Calico: have a Tammy Walters: is Penny Calico: choice. Tammy Walters: a like if this is a mobile phone uh we will design casing in such a way like half of, we need not to have a full cover, Penny Calico: Yeah. Tammy Walters: we will just have a half of cover, okay? Gloria Wilson: Like Tammy Walters: If somebody Gloria Wilson: like mobiles, Tammy Walters: wants it Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: yeah. Tammy Walters: i in banana shape, we will fit banana shape casing onto that, so it will give a banana shape look. If somebody wanted in apple shape we will design that, we will put we will put apple shape casing on that. It will give apple shape look. Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: So in that way you can have any, that means whatever you want, Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: without Penny Calico: We still Tammy Walters: uh yeah. Penny Calico: need the buttons in the same places Tammy Walters: Yeah, Penny Calico: thought, don't Tammy Walters: button will Penny Calico: we? Tammy Walters: be Gloria Wilson: You Tammy Walters: on Gloria Wilson: can Tammy Walters: the upper Gloria Wilson: standardise Tammy Walters: side, Gloria Wilson: those, I mean. Tammy Walters: buttons will be the on the upper side. Penny Calico: Oh, that's the Tammy Walters: Yeah, Penny Calico: other side. Oh, Tammy Walters: buttons Penny Calico: okay. Tammy Walters: will be on the upper side, lower side we will just put the casing, so half of that will be look Penny Calico: Oh, half Tammy Walters: the Penny Calico: a fruit. Tammy Walters: Yeah, Penny Calico: Oh, Tammy Walters: not Penny Calico: okay, Tammy Walters: not the Penny Calico: okay. Tammy Walters: upper side. So from lower you can, it means while you are holding of from this side you c you can have banana look or apple Penny Calico: Okay, Tammy Walters: look, whatever. Penny Calico: okay. Tammy Walters: So in that way we need not to d have different different shape mobiles everything, we will just design casings fruit shape. Penny Calico: Okay. Patricia Barksdale: Yeah Gloria Wilson: I think Tammy Walters: And Patricia Barksdale: yeah. Gloria Wilson: tho I think if you're gonna have a facia then you'd want to have it so that it does go over the buttons, 'cause when if you think about it if they're wanting it, 'cause they want to look at it, if they're using it, and what they want to look at is facing away from them. Penny Calico: Mm Gloria Wilson: It doesn't really Penny Calico: mm. Gloria Wilson: You know 'cause that'd be in the palm of their hand and they wouldn't be able to see Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: it, unless you have sort of you got the buttons options on one side, and you get the facia on the other side with a microphone so that you can place it face down. And you've got the facia, and you can just talk at the Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Gloria Wilson: Maybe. Patricia Barksdale: Okay, um so Gloria Wilson: So you've narrowed it down to half a dozen options. Patricia Barksdale: Yeah, s I guess we decided on material, right? So that that spongy latex rubber Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: everything feel, Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: and the colours we got down, Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: and Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: the shape, maybe we'll just make it kinda mix and match type of shape or Penny Calico: Well, um because Well, I I'm not sure if we should go so far in the whole fruit thing, because I think we should maybe just take the inspiration from the fruit and uh Gloria Wilson: Okay, Penny Calico: because Gloria Wilson: so we stick with what we've got there. Penny Calico: what Yeah, w I think wh wha would we're trying to get to twenty five, thirty five year olds who want it quite trendy as well they said. They wanted something that looks fancy and I think maybe fruit could be a bit of a too much of a gimmick, but something ergonomically shaped and organic, like good to hold, based on fruits and natural things like that, Gloria Wilson: Mm 'kay. Penny Calico: because al already we're going a bit gaudy with the yellow, you know. Gloria Wilson: Mm-hmm. Penny Calico: I Patricia Barksdale: Yeah. Penny Calico: mean we could make it nice pale yellow. Gloria Wilson: Well, it's kind of gotta be our company's yellow. Penny Calico: Okay. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Penny Calico: Okay. Gloria Wilson: So again I mean like we could have, uh I mean, we could quite easily have the the main body be a different Penny Calico: Yeah. Maybe we Gloria Wilson: colour, Penny Calico: could have Gloria Wilson: but Penny Calico: that Gloria Wilson: have Penny Calico: pale yellow and then an outside bit bright yellow with, you said, the logan the slogan. Gloria Wilson: kinda going round, yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Mm. Penny Calico: Because Gloria Wilson: Um I mean e even if I mean not necessarily that the um the whole body has to be of the company colour, so Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: you know um blue and yellow tend to go to we well together. So you have the main body blue with the yellow logo and slogan running Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: up one side of it kind Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: of thing. Penny Calico: Uh-huh. Patricia Barksdale: Mm-hmm. Gloria Wilson: W sort of Patricia Barksdale: Great. Um as for the energy source um, you know, almost every remote control uses just batteries, but we don't have to be limited by that. We can use a hand-dynamo. Um I don't Gloria Wilson: Uh Patricia Barksdale: know what that means, we crank Gloria Wilson: It's Patricia Barksdale: it? Gloria Wilson: I think it's basically the more you move i it, it's got a wee thing inside that just kinda Patricia Barksdale: Right, it's Gloria Wilson: powers Patricia Barksdale: like those Gloria Wilson: it. Patricia Barksdale: watches Gloria Wilson: Uh Patricia Barksdale: that you Gloria Wilson: yeah. Patricia Barksdale: c So, this Penny Calico: Oh, Patricia Barksdale: might Penny Calico: a Patricia Barksdale: be Penny Calico: d Patricia Barksdale: an idea for Penny Calico: a Patricia Barksdale: something Penny Calico: dynamo? Patricia Barksdale: that people really wanna grab, Tammy Walters: Yeah, Patricia Barksdale: you can shake it if it's Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: out of power. Penny Calico: Yeah, Gloria Wilson: Yeah, I Penny Calico: like Gloria Wilson: like Penny Calico: with Gloria Wilson: that, Penny Calico: those Gloria Wilson: yeah. Penny Calico: watches that you kind Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: of twist. Yeah Patricia Barksdale: Okay. So Gloria Wilson: Okay. Tammy Walters: But Penny Calico: that's Patricia Barksdale: if Penny Calico: quite Patricia Barksdale: it if Penny Calico: cool. Patricia Barksdale: it's not working, Gloria Wilson: You shake Patricia Barksdale: I guess people's Gloria Wilson: it and Patricia Barksdale: natural Gloria Wilson: scream at Patricia Barksdale: reaction Gloria Wilson: it. Patricia Barksdale: anyway is to Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: just Tammy Walters: But Patricia Barksdale: shake the thing. Penny Calico: Yeah, it Tammy Walters: but Penny Calico: is, Tammy Walters: do Penny Calico: yeah. Tammy Walters: you think that it will be a good idea to use dynamo, tha these type of cells? Because then people have to, well like if the cell is out Gloria Wilson: It does leave Tammy Walters: of Gloria Wilson: them with Tammy Walters: bat Gloria Wilson: an obligation to Tammy Walters: Yeah, to Gloria Wilson: Especially Tammy Walters: mo Gloria Wilson: if they want to use it uh uh Tammy Walters: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: sp uh specifically as um voice activated. Tammy Walters: Yeah, Gloria Wilson: Then Tammy Walters: because Patricia Barksdale: Right. Penny Calico: Yeah, Tammy Walters: most Gloria Wilson: if it's just Tammy Walters: of the Gloria Wilson: sitting Tammy Walters: people Penny Calico: then Gloria Wilson: on the Penny Calico: they have to pick it up and then activate Tammy Walters: Yeah. Penny Calico: it and then Yeah. Gloria Wilson: Okay, okay. Penny Calico: That's true. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Gloria Wilson: Right um what are the other options? Patricia Barksdale: Uh there's solar power. Tammy Walters: Uh, Patricia Barksdale: Um. Tammy Walters: solar power will w also not be a good idea, because then they have to keep m their mobiles outside Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Tammy Walters: in Patricia Barksdale: Yeah. Tammy Walters: solar energy, and the days when there is no sola Gloria Wilson: I'm Tammy Walters: sunlight Gloria Wilson: I'm with uh Raj Tammy Walters: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: on that, I Patricia Barksdale: Okay, Gloria Wilson: think, Tammy Walters: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: so Gloria Wilson: you Patricia Barksdale: probably Gloria Wilson: know, Patricia Barksdale: just Gloria Wilson: I've got I've Tammy Walters: What Gloria Wilson: got no Tammy Walters: we Gloria Wilson: I've got a north facing Tammy Walters: w Gloria Wilson: house, there's not really Tammy Walters: yeah. Gloria Wilson: ever sun Penny Calico: But Gloria Wilson: coming Tammy Walters: I Penny Calico: w Gloria Wilson: in Tammy Walters: think Gloria Wilson: my Penny Calico: like Gloria Wilson: window. Tammy Walters: we should Penny Calico: just Tammy Walters: a rechargeable Penny Calico: normal light? Gloria Wilson: Oh Tammy Walters: battery Gloria Wilson: that's true. Tammy Walters: will be a good idea. They can Gloria Wilson: I mean Tammy Walters: they Gloria Wilson: I Tammy Walters: can Gloria Wilson: w I Tammy Walters: recharge Gloria Wilson: w uh that Tammy Walters: it. Gloria Wilson: idea that I thought um just on the basis of like ridding them of batteries and that Patricia Barksdale: Mm. Gloria Wilson: kind of bother Penny Calico: And we're Gloria Wilson: is Penny Calico: a very Gloria Wilson: having Penny Calico: environmentally Gloria Wilson: a, Penny Calico: friendly company, Gloria Wilson: yeah, having Penny Calico: aren't Tammy Walters: Yeah. Penny Calico: we as Gloria Wilson: a Penny Calico: well? Gloria Wilson: rechargeable stand, so Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: that not only it doubles Tammy Walters: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: as a stand, but um for using it as uh recharging it, but also for using it Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: as sound recognition. Patricia Barksdale: 'Kay. Penny Calico: Like like a hand like one of those portable phones Gloria Wilson: Yeah Penny Calico: kind Tammy Walters: Yeah, Penny Calico: of thing. Gloria Wilson: that Tammy Walters: that's Gloria Wilson: kind of thing. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Tammy Walters: Yeah, exactly. Patricia Barksdale: So uh a rechargeable battery. Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Tammy Walters: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Gloria Wilson: Rechargeable. Patricia Barksdale: Um the user interface, the buttons, I guess we talked about this already. Penny Calico: Mm. Gloria Wilson: What's Patricia Barksdale: Um. Gloria Wilson: chip on print? What's Patricia Barksdale: Hmm? Gloria Wilson: Sorry, never mind. Patricia Barksdale: Uh th the uh the electronics um, basically the more features we add um Oops, this one. So the more features we add the fancier chips we need to buy Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Patricia Barksdale: and put in, which adds to the cost Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Patricia Barksdale: as you can expect. Um. But uh I think we can keep it all under budget. So uh yes, so the speech thing you said our our techno our research and development department came up with some break-through. Penny Calico: Mm-hmm. Patricia Barksdale: So Gloria Wilson: Yeah, Penny Calico: Just Gloria Wilson: and if Penny Calico: in time. Gloria Wilson: we if we're Patricia Barksdale: just Gloria Wilson: just Patricia Barksdale: in time. Gloria Wilson: having buttons and the speech then we're getting our cheapest option of chipping. Patricia Barksdale: Right, right. Gloria Wilson: That's good. Uh woah. Patricia Barksdale: Yeah, Gloria Wilson: Okay, Patricia Barksdale: and Gloria Wilson: we're Patricia Barksdale: keeping Gloria Wilson: we're kind Patricia Barksdale: the L_C_D_ Gloria Wilson: of uh Patricia Barksdale: screen out. Gloria Wilson: we're kind of um Excuse m I've just deleted that whole thing. Um we're kind of running out of time, so if you could Uh. Was that you? Um Patricia Barksdale: Huh? Gloria Wilson: that was your bit's covered, I just Patricia Barksdale: Oh Gloria Wilson: dele Patricia Barksdale: yeah that Gloria Wilson: I Patricia Barksdale: was that Gloria Wilson: just Patricia Barksdale: was Gloria Wilson: accidentally Patricia Barksdale: it. Gloria Wilson: deleted what I was supposed to say next. Tammy Walters: Uh excuse Tammy Walters, Gloria Wilson: Um, Tammy Walters: Bri Gloria Wilson: yeah. Patricia Barksdale: So Gloria Wilson: Oh, yeah. Patricia Barksdale: control F_ eight, right? Penny Calico: Yeah, mine seems to have turned off. I can't Gloria Wilson: And I just Penny Calico: do Gloria Wilson: touch Penny Calico: anything. Gloria Wilson: the pad. Tammy Walters: You just touch the pad, yeah. Penny Calico: No. Tammy Walters: No? Gloria Wilson: It's actually shut down. Penny Calico: It's on, but there's nothing Gloria Wilson: Okay, Penny Calico: on the screen. Gloria Wilson: um now Patricia Barksdale: Try uh Gloria Wilson: what Patricia Barksdale: flipping the screen Gloria Wilson: we Patricia Barksdale: down. Gloria Wilson: have uh our next meeting's in half an hour Patricia Barksdale: 'Kay. Gloria Wilson: and what I would like you guys to do is work on giving Tammy Walters a model in clay. Patricia Barksdale: Oh, I get to do it, too. Gloria Wilson: Yeah. Penny Calico: Cool. Gloria Wilson: It's Patricia Barksdale: Oh Gloria Wilson: you guys. Patricia Barksdale: neat. Gloria Wilson: Yeah. So um, you know I mean, luckily we chose a nice simple shape. Penny Calico: Yeah. Patricia Barksdale: Yeah, Penny Calico: Mm. Patricia Barksdale: yeah. Gloria Wilson: Um and further instructions will be sent by your personal coaches. Penny Calico: Okay. Patricia Barksdale: Okay. Tammy Walters: That's great. Patricia Barksdale: Save everything to the shared documents, is that right? Gloria Wilson: Uh yeah, I hope Penny Calico: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: I can recover this, 'cause I've accidentally deleted it. Tammy Walters: Mm-hmm. Gloria Wilson: Which doesn't really help Tammy Walters much. Penny Calico: I think, I've saved mine already. Gloria Wilson: Yeah, can you save that uh send that last one again, please, Raj, as I still Tammy Walters: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: can't find it on the Tammy Walters: Uh it was under a different name. I will show you, in shared documents. Gloria Wilson: Okay. Tammy Walters: Uh working components. Oh, you didn't get that. Gloria Wilson: No. Tammy Walters: I will send new. Gloria Wilson: Okay, thank you. Tammy Walters: Uh I'll put it in shared documents, again. Gloria Wilson: Um yeah, Project, Project Documents. Tammy Walters: Project documents, sorry, I put it in the shared documents. Gloria Wilson: Uh right, that's Tammy Walters: Uh yeah. Gloria Wilson: that's the that it goes there automatically if you put it in Project Documents. Project Documents is on the um desktop. Tammy Walters: Right, that's great. But I cou can't open that, because it w asks uh for some username or password. Patricia Barksdale: Oh. Gloria Wilson: Really? Tammy Walters: I'll show you. Patricia Barksdale: Uh these lapel mics are trouble. Tammy Walters: Ts Gloria Wilson: Oh right, I think um Hold on. Tammy Walters: Sorry. Uh. Gloria Wilson: Yeah, I don't know if y it it just ca it just came up on my um on my agenda. S Um presumably there's clay somewhere. Um. Four. Tammy Walters: Yeah, that's great. Gloria Wilson: Whoops. Light, light, please. Light. Right, there you go. Tammy Walters: Yeah, th thank you. Gloria Wilson: Yeah, quite. And we're using this our basic chip set, so it's all Tammy Walters: Oh sorry. Gloria Wilson: good. Patricia Barksdale: Are we done with our meeting? Tammy Walters: Uh Gloria Wilson: Um I think Tammy Walters: excuse Gloria Wilson: we're almost Tammy Walters: Tammy Walters, Brian. Gloria Wilson: done, yeah. Tammy Walters: You have Patricia Barksdale: Yeah. Tammy Walters: to keep your pen separate, because I used your pen. Gloria Wilson: Oh oops. Sorry Tammy Walters: S Gloria Wilson: man. Uh okay, still didn't manage to get down all the last bits so we had rechargeable and Uh. Apples. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. 'Kay, so we came up with that, that's okay. What's supplements? Supplements. Uh uh. See. Penny Calico: Cool. Fun. Gloria Wilson: I shoulda something like that. If I kn see I I knew that. I shoulda sort of engineered it so we k ended up making a diffi difficult shape. Tammy Walters: Hmm. Gloria Wilson: Just for cruelty. Penny Calico: Yeah. Tammy Walters: Hmm. Penny Calico: Star fruit. Gloria Wilson: I wonder Tammy Walters: So Gloria Wilson: if they mean Tammy Walters: sh Gloria Wilson: like literally make it, sort of buttons Tammy Walters: should Gloria Wilson: and everything. Penny Calico: No. Tammy Walters: Should we leave Penny Calico: Oh yeah, Tammy Walters: now, Penny Calico: we can do buttons. Tammy Walters: Brian? Or Gloria Wilson: Um. Tammy Walters: we are going to discuss something? Gloria Wilson: Uh no, I think that's us our discussion over unless anybody's got questions or confusions, Penny Calico: No I'm good. Gloria Wilson: 'cause I'm confused. Tammy Walters: Yeah. Gloria Wilson: Huh? Penny Calico: Okay. Tammy Walters: Excuse Tammy Walters. Gloria Wilson: Um uh we'll probably get questionnaire in a minute, it's a Penny Calico: Mm. Tammy Walters: Sorry. Thank you. Yeah. Gloria Wilson: There we go. Warning, finish meeting now. Tammy Walters: So. Gloria Wilson: I rounded it up far too fast. Um. Where are we going? My Documents, that's not what I want. 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Tammy Walters presented the results of a market survey that indicated users' most important preferences in remote control features. He discussed trends in fashion that should be incorporated into the prototype design. Penny Calico compared the designs of several competitors' remotes to decide which features should be used in their own design. She discussed using voice recognition, an LCD screen, and color to make the device easier to use and to improve its look. Patricia Barksdale went over all of the internal components and materials that will be incorporated in the design. He gave a layout of the placement of the components in the device. The group decided to use a rubber or latex material to give the device a spongy feel. He discussed the color and shape of the remote with the group and the placement of the components on the device. The group discussed colors and shapes further, and decided that the remote will be yellow, and perhaps having a fruit-inspired shape. The group decided to use a rechargeable battery and recharging stand. Gloria Wilson instructed Penny Calico and Patricia Barksdale to construct the prototype.

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Georgia Dulac: Sure, that's a good idea. Kathleen Napier: So Joyce Fredricks: I'm Catherine with a C_. C_A_T_H_ E_R_ I_N_E_. Kathleen Napier: Okay, and Georgia Dulac: Uh Gabriel. Kathleen Napier: Gabriel. E_L_ is Georgia Dulac: E_L_. Kathleen Napier: it? 'Kay. And you're Kasey Fulker: I Kathleen Napier: s Kasey Fulker: am Reissa. R_E_I_S_S_A_. Kathleen Napier: r Kasey Fulker: Double S_ yeah yeah. Sorry. Kathleen Napier: R_E_I_S_S_ Okay. 'S just a bit nicer calling people by their names I think Joyce Fredricks: Right. True. Kathleen Napier: Uh. right. Kasey Fulker: Mm 'kay. Kathleen Napier: Okay, right, welcome to meeting B_. Um this is gonna go a lot better than the last meeting, basically, uh 'cause I know what I'm supposed to be doing now. I am your Project Manager, and, uh yeah, I'm just here to sort of liaise between the three of you and get things going, get people talking and and I'm gonna be making notes and sending them off to the powers that be and stuff basically. Um right, this for the purposes of this meeting what this meeting is all about is um I'm gonna have some presentations from all three of you, what you've been working on for the last wee while, when you haven't been getting hit with spam on your computers and and, you know, filling out silly questionnaires and things. But hopefully you've been actually been doing something productive. So we're gonna each of you gonna give us a litt a little presentation. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: Um. Then we're gonna work, you know, from each of your presentations. We'll we'll uh talk about what we actually need as a final coming together of it all. Um and then we'll, yeah, we'll sort of conclude anything else comes up at the end of it. Joyce Fredricks: How long is the meeting? Kathleen Napier: This meeting it's not very long. It's uh probably down to about thirty five minutes now. Joyce Fredricks: Okay. Kathleen Napier: So I want each of your presentations to not be too long, five Joyce Fredricks: No problem. Kathleen Napier: five minutes, something like that. Um if you haven't done a PowerPoint thingy, it doesn't matter, it it just it just says that you it's that's just one particular medium. If you haven't had time to prepare one, you can draw stuff on the noteboard, you can talk to us, you can you know however you want to do your little presentation, basically, you can. Don't feel pressurised into using this thing. 'Cause I don't. Uh okay. So um. You okay over there? Reissa, Kasey Fulker: I'm fine. Yeah. Kathleen Napier: are you uh b are you joining in with this meeting here Kasey Fulker: I uh yeah, yeah. Georgia Dulac: Think she's Kathleen Napier: or are y or Georgia Dulac: finishing Kasey Fulker: D Kathleen Napier: are Kasey Fulker: I mean, Kathleen Napier: y or are Kasey Fulker: I Georgia Dulac: up Kasey Fulker: I'm Georgia Dulac: her Kathleen Napier: you Georgia Dulac: presentation. Kasey Fulker: finishing Kathleen Napier: are you just Kasey Fulker: off my Kathleen Napier: are you Kasey Fulker: presentation. Kathleen Napier: just uh doing some Internet shopping there? Kasey Fulker: No no. Uh I'm done. Okay. Kathleen Napier: Okay, jolly good. Alright, let's have um well, we all know that it's it's a remote control that we're gonna be dealing with. I Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: think the first thing we should look at is um probably the um what it is that it is actually supposed to be. So that's gonna be you Catherine, Joyce Fredricks: Okay. Kathleen Napier: if we wanna hear from you first. Joyce Fredricks: Okay. Um just connecting this. Joyce Fredricks: Are we Kathleen Napier: You Joyce Fredricks: getting Kathleen Napier: don't have to Joyce Fredricks: i Kathleen Napier: worry about screwing it in just Joyce Fredricks: Really? Okay. Kathleen Napier: there you go. Joyce Fredricks: Cool. Okay. So I've got a very quick uh Uh. Okay. so um I've oh no, you can't see a thing. Oh well, I'm gonna draw it on the board then. It's Georgia Dulac: Oh. Joyce Fredricks: in blue uh, and I couldn't change it. We Kathleen Napier: Ah. Joyce Fredricks: it's fine on my screen, but never mind. So um the idea is that we've got the energy source um, which in our case will pr, oh well okay, never mind. So um I think maybe uh two batteries, I dunno what they're called six, or something like Kathleen Napier: Mm-hmm. Joyce Fredricks: that. Uh and then um then on the uh remote control itself will have um the sender for the signal, which could be uh an infra-red signal, um which will be sent by an electronic chip. And uh the chip will be controlled by the user interface. So we'll hear about that later from Gabriel. Kathleen Napier: Mm-hmm. Joyce Fredricks: And uh the sender will send to the telly itself an infra-red signal to tell it to switch on or switch channels. Um and that's it really for the working design. Kathleen Napier: Great. Okay. Joyce Fredricks: Sorry the presentation wasn't very uh clear Kathleen Napier: I prefer Joyce Fredricks: but Kathleen Napier: the pe I prefer the human Joyce Fredricks: Really? Kathleen Napier: touch personally. Joyce Fredricks: Cool. Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Joyce Fredricks: Um, should I erase this Kathleen Napier: Do you wanna Joyce Fredricks: or Kathleen Napier: just give us a moment, I just Joyce Fredricks: Okay. Kathleen Napier: wanna copy this down. Um Joyce Fredricks: Fine. Kathleen Napier: I dunno if you guys have got any questions for Catherine on any of this? Joyce Fredricks: Or suggestions? Kasey Fulker: Is a battery like the only way of Joyce Fredricks: Well, it's just, you don't want it plugged in really, s Georgia Dulac: Yeah, alternate energy source, like win wind power or Kasey Fulker: No, Joyce Fredricks: In Kasey Fulker: no Joyce Fredricks: indoors. Kathleen Napier: Yeah, Kasey Fulker: No Kathleen Napier: you Kasey Fulker: I meant Kathleen Napier: blow Kasey Fulker: like Kathleen Napier: on it and i Kasey Fulker: No 'cause like cha Georgia Dulac: Bicycle Kasey Fulker: 'cause Georgia Dulac: power. Kasey Fulker: always changing um um batteries can get like annoying. The battery's down and maybe, I dunno, Joyce Fredricks: I dunno, swi Kasey Fulker: solar Joyce Fredricks: I Kasey Fulker: charged? Joyce Fredricks: th I th I think changing your batteries once every six months is not really a pain, but Kathleen Napier: Yeah, it's Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: worked for the last fifty Kasey Fulker: Yeah. Kathleen Napier: years you know. Georgia Dulac: One question I have, and I don't know how much control we have over this is um, as far as the infra-red signal, do we have control over, you know, how far away you can be from the receiving unit, the the T_V_, and still have it be operational? I mean, maybe we want one with a strong signal stream. Kathleen Napier: How far away is your television? Joyce Fredricks: Yeah. Kathleen Napier: It's Georgia Dulac: Uh Kathleen Napier: never gonna be more than Joyce Fredricks: Well, the thing Kathleen Napier: it's Joyce Fredricks: is Kathleen Napier: never Joyce Fredricks: uh Kathleen Napier: gonna be, Joyce Fredricks: you Kathleen Napier: you Joyce Fredricks: you Kathleen Napier: kno Joyce Fredricks: don't Kathleen Napier: unless you've got a T_V_ the size of a football pitch, it's not doesn't have to go that far, does it? Doesn't have to go through a wall, because you're not gonna be looking through a wall. Kasey Fulker: Yeah, Georgia Dulac: That's Kasey Fulker: but if Georgia Dulac: true. Kasey Fulker: like you're on the phone in the other room and you need turn television off or something and you don't really want to go into the put the telephone down, and go into the other room. Joyce Fredricks: Well, we can make the the signal strong enough to go through walls if if you fancy it. I didn't think about that Kasey Fulker: How about Joyce Fredricks: but Kasey Fulker: Bluetooth? Instead of using infra-red, use Bluetooth. Joyce Fredricks: Why not? Kasey Fulker: Isn't Joyce Fredricks: I just Kasey Fulker: that a better Joyce Fredricks: think Kasey Fulker: signal? Joyce Fredricks: that it's it's gonna cost more and Kathleen Napier: Yeah, Joyce Fredricks: I'm Kathleen Napier: yeah Joyce Fredricks: I'm Kathleen Napier: I Joyce Fredricks: not Kathleen Napier: d it Joyce Fredricks: sure Kathleen Napier: sounds Joyce Fredricks: it's Kathleen Napier: like you Joyce Fredricks: you're gonna use Kathleen Napier: you w Joyce Fredricks: it. Kathleen Napier: don't wanna overcomplicate things. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: You know we don't need Joyce Fredricks: It's a Kathleen Napier: it. Joyce Fredricks: fancy idea uh it's quite nice, but then I don't th I dunno, either you if you wanna watch the telly you're in the room, you are gonna Kathleen Napier: Yeah, exactly. Basically, Joyce Fredricks: But Kathleen Napier: we're we're desi we're designing and marketing a television remote control unit. We're not w w w w designing something that you can plug in a headset to and and you know connect to your laptop computer and stuff. It's uh Kasey Fulker: Mm. Joyce Fredricks: Oh, we can we can keep the idea if you i We can see Kasey Fulker: 'S just an Joyce Fredricks: at Kasey Fulker: idea. Joyce Fredricks: a later stage, maybe, I don't Kathleen Napier: Okay. Kathleen Napier: Right, well done, Catherine. Um Gab Gabriel let's Georgia Dulac: Okay. Kathleen Napier: uh let's hear from you on on on Joyce Fredricks: Do you need the border? Kathleen Napier: such Georgia Dulac: Uh Kathleen Napier: things. Georgia Dulac: I'm just gonna use the PowerPoint Joyce Fredricks: Okay. Georgia Dulac: uh. Joyce Fredricks: Sorry. Georgia Dulac: Technical. Okay. Kasey Fulker: Adjusting. Georgia Dulac: Okay, so, while this is warming up, there it is Kasey Fulker: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: uh. So I'm doing the user interface design. Kathleen Napier: Mm-hmm. Georgia Dulac: Yeah, and basically uh, as far as methods, I was I was looking looking at looking at uh already existing remotes, trying to find some inspiration from designs that are already out there. Thinking of what we can retain, what we can do away with, uh what we what we can perfect a little bit as far as design um. we don't want to do something that's too radical of a change, I guess, I mean people want a remote that's familiar, that has their favourite functionalities um and and does the basics, Kathleen Napier: Mm yeah. Georgia Dulac: but Um so we can improve what's out there and maintain that, the basic functionality that people want. Um so things that seem like absolute must-haves uh would be a volume control, um so up-down keys for that, uh channel keys up-down, but then also a numerical key pad so that they can just key directly to the channel that they want, rather than doing up-down, and uh a mute button. Uh one thing that I didn't include here, that I forgot that we talked about last time, was doing um some sort of lock uh function. Uh, Kathleen Napier: Okay. Georgia Dulac: I don't I dunno, uh that's one possibility. And so in the research that I was doing there's basically two types of remotes, ones that are engineering centred and ones that are more user centred, which I don't know if I can access the web page from here, but I can show you uh. Yeah. So this is a engineer centred one, so you see it's rather busy, but it also lets you play your movie, stop your movie, fast-forward, all this, Kathleen Napier: Mm-hmm. Georgia Dulac: um freeze frame. Uh and this is a user centred one. Uh it's Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: it's easier to g just glance at this and see what's possible to do, you're not gonna be staring at it for five minutes. Kathleen Napier: Great. Georgia Dulac: And I judging from what what we all talked about during our last meeting I kind of gathered that that's what we were going after, uh or the direction we were going in at least. Um. So, the engineering centred ones uh provide a lot of functionality, but it can be a little bit overwhelming, so the user centred ones just focus on ease of use. Uh and this sort of overlaps with what the marketing person uh, Reissa, because Kasey Fulker: Mm. Georgia Dulac: uh we we need to find out what what people want before we make firm decisions Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: on this. So uh, yeah, that's Kasey Fulker. Kathleen Napier: Great. Okay. Now that's I just have a q a q question for you. This w um research that you've been doing looki looking at other, you know, existing units stuff. Um have you found that anyone else has do has looked into the locking function Georgia Dulac: No that Kathleen Napier: or Georgia Dulac: that that seemed like a novel idea as f as far as I know. I mean obviously another exists like you like you said in in mobile phones. Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: That was sort of the inspiration for it. Um I've never seen that with in in all my years in in Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: the remote business. I've, haven't I've never seen a locking functionality. I dunno, what uh do you guys have a a yea or nay on that a feeling about whether that's really necessary? Kathleen Napier: Um I would say it's If it's simple to do, which I think it probably should be, Georgia Dulac: Yeah. Kathleen Napier: even if it's a physical, you know, a f a like a f a physical switch or a physical cover for the remote, Georgia Dulac: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Napier: even something like that, Georgia Dulac: 'Kay. Kathleen Napier: um then yes, it's like, you know, like s you said earlier on ab ab ab a flip thing, Georgia Dulac: Right. Kathleen Napier: something like that, being physical. Look into. Um I've had word down from head office that something that we should be centred well, something we should take into account is um we've gotta keep the corporate image within this remote control unit. It's gotta d look like it's in the R_ and R_. Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kathleen Napier: You know, the the company it's it's, from what I can see from our other products, are yellow with blue writing on them. Georgia Dulac: Right. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: Um. Georgia Dulac: And our motto is is we put the fashion Kathleen Napier: We put Georgia Dulac: in Kathleen Napier: the Georgia Dulac: electronics. Kathleen Napier: fashion in electronics. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Georgia Dulac: I Kathleen Napier: There Georgia Dulac: think Kathleen Napier: you go. Georgia Dulac: I think we have to carry that mental. Kathleen Napier: So it's kinda gotta look it's gotta look new and s you know something fashionable. If Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kathleen Napier: if remote control well, if telephones can be fashionable, then maybe remote control units can be. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Georgia Dulac: Well yeah these, I think, we can so we talked about the layout in my presentation and what I didn't mention yet really is is the sort of like the ergonomic Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: design. Kathleen Napier: Because we Georgia Dulac: I t Kathleen Napier: need Georgia Dulac: I think we can make big improvements over these two that you see here, I mean. Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: Uh, Kathleen Napier: Great. Georgia Dulac: everything is going t ergonomic, you know, there's you know mice for your computers that are very ergonomic and keyboards and that could be one of our niches p sort of uh uh in the market, I guess. Kathleen Napier: Okay, Georgia Dulac: Um. Kathleen Napier: fantastic. Right, Kasey Fulker: Okay. Kathleen Napier: well done, Gabriel. Um Reissa. Kasey Fulker: Where does it go Kathleen Napier: Let's Kasey Fulker: into? Kathleen Napier: plug you in, baby. Kasey Fulker: Here? Georgia Dulac: Yeah. Kasey Fulker: The blue thing. Georgia Dulac: Uh, yeah, this is getting all. Mm. Yeah, then you just have to do function F_ eight and it should come up. Kasey Fulker: Well, function F_ eight. No Kathleen Napier: Yeah, Georgia Dulac: Yeah, Kathleen Napier: w it Georgia Dulac: it just takes Kathleen Napier: it just Georgia Dulac: a second Kasey Fulker: oh. Kathleen Napier: takes a wee while. Georgia Dulac: uh. Kasey Fulker: Come on. Right. Okay. Okay. Well, for our marketing report uh we observed remote control users in a usability lab, and also gave so this is research and we also gave participants um questionnaires to fill out. Um total number of people tested were a hundred just so you know, so that hundred people were tested and these were the findings. So seventy five per cent of users find the remote control ugly. Okay, so they don't like the look of the remote control. Um eighty f eighty per cent of them would spend more money if the rem remote control looked really cool and fancy. So I think we all agree with that. Um current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user. So, they don't like like the way they operate it doesn't like match how people behave. Um per cent of the users say that they only use ten per cent of the buttons on a remote, so probably if you have like one, two, three, four, five, the whole up to z ten, they probably don't use those, they only use the up and down channel. Kathleen Napier: 'Cause we've only got five channels. Kasey Fulker: exactly. That's another thing. Um seventy five per cent of users say they zap. Not quite sure what they mean, zap, goes like. Kathleen Napier: I think that's k flicking quickly between channels. Georgia Dulac: Yeah, you Kasey Fulker: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: wanna navigate the channels quickly Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: I guess. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Um takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote. I think especially for uh the older generation. I know my grandmother doesn't like mobile phones, takes ages to work how to use. Anyway um and they also remotes often get lost in the room, so nobody can find them. Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kasey Fulker: So maybe tracking devices is a good idea. Um personal preferences. Kathleen Napier: Wow. You are a child of technology, aren't you? Kasey Fulker: Um so yeah um I was thinking something easy to use, especially for older people. Um has to look really cool, flashy groovy for people to buy it. And it's easy to find, so I don't know whether maybe and also we asked them whether they wanted whether they'd be interested in um voice activating. So voice activation. So and this was what we came up with. Then if you look fifteen to twenty five this is age, sorry, age groups. So fifteen to twenty five said like ninety two ninety one per cent of them Kathleen Napier: So Kasey Fulker: said Kathleen Napier: there Kasey Fulker: yes. Kathleen Napier: you go, yeah. Kasey Fulker: Um so basically the majority except for the forty five to fifty five year olds for some reason didn't want a voice activated one. And neither did the older generation, but the younger generation who we are catering for, like who have most of the money nowadays, do want a voice act speech recognition Kathleen Napier: Uh but do the younger Kasey Fulker: in a remote. Kathleen Napier: generation have the money? Georgia Dulac: No I would I Kathleen Napier: They Georgia Dulac: would Kathleen Napier: they Georgia Dulac: say the Kathleen Napier: don't. Georgia Dulac: older Kathleen Napier: It's Georgia Dulac: the older Kathleen Napier: older Georgia Dulac: people, Kathleen Napier: generation, they're the ones Kasey Fulker: Well Kathleen Napier: that have gone Kasey Fulker: the Georgia Dulac: yeah. Kathleen Napier: out Kasey Fulker: twenty Kathleen Napier: and Kasey Fulker: five to thirty five year old, and thirty five, and the thirty five to forty five, forty five point seven per cent Kathleen Napier: People Kasey Fulker: say no, so Kathleen Napier: people from the age of thirty f there's a big drop off there. For people up to the age of thirty five, you're kinda saying, yeah, they want it. Um but no they're not sort of most people that have the money are people from the age of thirty five to fifty five, Georgia Dulac: Yeah, that would be my guess as Kathleen Napier: uh Georgia Dulac: well. Kathleen Napier: 'cause they're the ones Kasey Fulker: So Kathleen Napier: that Kasey Fulker: they Kathleen Napier: have Kasey Fulker: don't Kathleen Napier: been working for twenty years. Um d Kasey Fulker: Well Kathleen Napier: and tha and that's a that's quite a minority there, so yeah, it's not even like fifty fifty that's th thirty five per cent. Kasey Fulker: These guys are growing up. Georgia Dulac: about just from the the prospective of our manufacturing cost? I mean if if it's twelve fifty per unit. Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: I mean, okay, there's Kasey Fulker: Voice activation might not be the best. Kathleen Napier: I would say scra Georgia Dulac: Uh. Kathleen Napier: I'd say scrap that straight off. Kasey Fulker: Um also with um with buttons, a thing called R_S_I_, so wrist sense Georgia Dulac: Repetitive strain uh Kasey Fulker: Huh? Georgia Dulac: rep repetitive strain injury Kasey Fulker: Yeah, Georgia Dulac: or like Kasey Fulker: repetitive Georgia Dulac: from doing Kasey Fulker: strains injury, so they don't I think people who watch T_V_ maybe too often, keep changing channel hurts their wrist. I Joyce Fredricks: Well Kasey Fulker: don't think Joyce Fredricks: maybe they shouldn't watch Kathleen Napier: So Kasey Fulker: so. Joyce Fredricks: so Kathleen Napier: y Joyce Fredricks: much Kathleen Napier: so Joyce Fredricks: T_V_ Kathleen Napier: it's so Joyce Fredricks: then. Kathleen Napier: it's so you got so that's something we should have a look into then Kasey Fulker: Yeah Kathleen Napier: i when Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kasey Fulker: maybe Kathleen Napier: desi Kasey Fulker: not Kathleen Napier: when Kasey Fulker: so hard. Kathleen Napier: designing the ergonomics of see Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kathleen Napier: have a look if um there's any w any medical Joyce Fredricks: Maybe Kathleen Napier: background Joyce Fredricks: it could Kathleen Napier: we Joyce Fredricks: be, Kathleen Napier: can Joyce Fredricks: instead Kathleen Napier: find Joyce Fredricks: of Kathleen Napier: out about Joyce Fredricks: pressing Kathleen Napier: this. Joyce Fredricks: button it could be just touching a Kasey Fulker: Yeah. Kathleen Napier: Let's Kasey Fulker: Maybe Kathleen Napier: jus we just want need to cover our arses so that people aren't gonna sue us in ten years' time, say your remote control gave Kasey Fulker repetitive strain injury. Georgia Dulac: Yeah, we Kasey Fulker: Mm. Georgia Dulac: should probably consult with our legal department uh. Kathleen Napier: Yeah. They're having a lunch break at the moment, but yeah. Kasey Fulker: Yeah. Kathleen Napier: I'll see if I Georgia Dulac: Yeah. Kathleen Napier: can get see if I can get hold of them for the next meeting. Georgia Dulac: I think we can do some really in in that department, the the ergonomic department, Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: we can make some some really good improvements. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Maybe th the buttons not so high up so you don't have to press so much, Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kasey Fulker: or we just like flat buttons, something. Yeah. Kathleen Napier: Okay. Kasey Fulker: So that is Kasey Fulker. Kathleen Napier: That's great, thank you very much for that, Reissa. Um okay, so we've basically we've decide we've d we've decided that it's gonna be, you know uh, we're going for a basic television remote. It's gotta be safe to use, it's gotta look cool. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: It's gotta be cheap. S um. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: Now going back to the uh industrial design of it, you know, we were looking at whether to use maybe infra-red or Bluetooth. I think, we should just go with the simplest option on everything, uh and that would be infra-red, energy source, that would be batteries. Uh mean we we can look into using the s, you know, the little tiny weeny batteries, all like special long-lasting batteries. Um. But a in there's no I don't think there's any point in making a remote control unit that's gonna last for fifty years, because technology will have changed and, you know, we won't have televisions in ten years' time. So Joyce Fredricks: Yep. Kathleen Napier: I think we're all um pretty sussed on that. Um anyone have any questions? Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: Everybody happy in their work? Georgia Dulac: Yeah, it seems like we're all on the pretty much on the same page. Kathleen Napier: Now this is good, we've got a good structure going on. We all know where we're going to. Have you been ge has have any of you lot been getting loads of crap spam on your computers? Georgia Dulac: Oh it's probably just you, 'cause you're Kathleen Napier. Kasey Fulker: Well, just questionnaires. Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: Sell trying to sell your things. Kathleen Napier: Yeah, stuff. Um okay. Do oh have you guys found out if we can if we can e-mail stuff to each other? Kasey Fulker: Yeah, you can. Kathleen Napier: Right. Georgia Dulac: Okay. Kathleen Napier: Do all you all know my e-mail address? Georgia Dulac: No I don't. Kasey Fulker: I Joyce Fredricks: Well, Georgia Dulac: I Kasey Fulker: think he's participant Joyce Fredricks: in the project Kasey Fulker: one, Joyce Fredricks: announcement, Kasey Fulker: aren't you? Joyce Fredricks: you've got the addresses, I think. Georgia Dulac: Uh Joyce Fredricks: So Project Manager, it's Georgia Dulac: Oh, it's Joyce Fredricks: participant Georgia Dulac: just participant Joyce Fredricks: one Georgia Dulac: one Joyce Fredricks: at Georgia Dulac: oh okay. Yeah. Kathleen Napier: Can Joyce Fredricks: A_M_I_. Kathleen Napier: you all d e-mail Kasey Fulker your e-mail addresses? Georgia Dulac: Well it's just Joyce Fredricks: You have Georgia Dulac: w Joyce Fredricks: them Georgia Dulac: it's Joyce Fredricks: i Georgia Dulac: just it's just Joyce Fredricks: you have them, Georgia Dulac: par participant Joyce Fredricks: but Georgia Dulac: one, Joyce Fredricks: we'll Georgia Dulac: participant Joyce Fredricks: send you Georgia Dulac: two. Joyce Fredricks: an e-mail. Kathleen Napier: Send Joyce Fredricks: You want Kathleen Napier: Kasey Fulker, yeah Joyce Fredricks: to have friends, don't you? Kathleen Napier: yeah, okay. Georgia Dulac: So are we headed towards like a b a big yellow and black remote as far as maybe that's our next meeting Kathleen Napier: Is Georgia Dulac: that Kathleen Napier: it Georgia Dulac: we Kathleen Napier: yellow Georgia Dulac: discuss Kathleen Napier: and black Georgia Dulac: that. Kathleen Napier: or is it yellow and blue? I I kind of thought it was blue writing on a yellow background, but I might be just going Georgia Dulac: Well, Kathleen Napier: a bit Georgia Dulac: it's like white on i white and blue on a black background with white with yellow borders. Kathleen Napier: Okay. Georgia Dulac: Maybe that's Kathleen Napier: Well, Georgia Dulac: like getting ahead of ourselves. Joyce Fredricks: It wouldn't Kathleen Napier: maybe Joyce Fredricks: be Kathleen Napier: you can come up with a few with a couple of different Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kathleen Napier: ideas? Kasey Fulker: Can't we have different colours in the remotes, so somebody can choose different col like does Kathleen Napier: Well, Kasey Fulker: it have Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kathleen Napier: see the Kasey Fulker: to be Kathleen Napier: thing Kasey Fulker: of a certain? Kathleen Napier: is is we've gotta keep the company image. It's gotta say people have gotta look at this remote control and instantly recognise that it's a Real Reaction Kasey Fulker: But if Kathleen Napier: i Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kasey Fulker: it's Kathleen Napier: product. Kasey Fulker: a R_R_, it would be Real Reaction, like if it had Kathleen Napier: There's Kasey Fulker: a symbol Kathleen Napier: loads Kasey Fulker: on Kathleen Napier: of Kasey Fulker: it. Kathleen Napier: companies that Georgia Dulac: Mm. Kathleen Napier: called R_R_. This is slog but this is the slogan, this is the the the Georgia Dulac: And Kathleen Napier: the Georgia Dulac: this Kathleen Napier: type. Georgia Dulac: is something that came on down from from the higher ups, Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Georgia Dulac: so, I mean, we are sort of beholden to them. Kasey Fulker: So we have to have it one colour. Kathleen Napier: Well, not necessarily. Georgia Dulac: Not one colour, but the Kathleen Napier: But Georgia Dulac: pattern Kathleen Napier: we have to Georgia Dulac: needs Kathleen Napier: incorporate Georgia Dulac: to be recognisable. Kathleen Napier: it. Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: Not necessarily even if i it just has to ye but you have to look at the product and instantly know that it's one of Joyce Fredricks: Well Kathleen Napier: our Joyce Fredricks: you Kathleen Napier: products Joyce Fredricks: could Kathleen Napier: as Kasey Fulker: Mm. Kathleen Napier: opposed to a Sony product or a, you know, a Panasonic product. It's got to Joyce Fredricks: It could Kathleen Napier: so Joyce Fredricks: come Kathleen Napier: maybe, so you can have a look at our our other products and see if they all follow a s similar vein, perhaps. Joyce Fredricks: But it could come in different colours and have the R_R_ colours just Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Joyce Fredricks: somewhere like just around the lock button could be the R_R_ logo Kathleen Napier: Yeah. Joyce Fredricks: or colours and Kasey Fulker: Mm. Joyce Fredricks: If. Kathleen Napier: Quite poss yeah. Well this is all your department. Mm okay. Well, well done everybody. And um, I think we uh stop for lunch now. Georgia Dulac: Yeah, pretty soon I think, I guess that's now. Kasey Fulker: Are we are we finished ahead of schedule? Kathleen Napier: We might possibly have done. Joyce Fredricks: Cool. Georgia Dulac: Alright, see you all soon. Kathleen Napier: If we've if we've finished at five minutes before the meeting's supposed to finish, then that means we get an extra five minutes for lunch. Kasey Fulker: 'Kay uh. Kathleen Napier: Yeah, there you go. Kathleen Napier: Right. I just have to there's a few little bits and pieces I have to write down, but Take your headsets off, kick back, smoke 'em if you got 'em.

Kathleen Napier had the team members re-introduce themselves and then briefed the team on his own duties and on the meeting agenda. Joyce Fredricks discussed the interior workings of a remote and the team discussed options for batteries and infra-red signals. Georgia Dulac discussed what features the remote was required to have and presented two existing products which were based on different concepts. Kathleen Napier then introduced some new requirements to bear in mind when designing the remote. Kasey Fulker presented research on consumer preferences on remotes in general and on voice recognition and the team discussed the option to have an ergonomically designed remote. Kathleen Napier briefed the team on the decisions made so far and the team discussed color options for the remote.

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Lindsay Miller: Oh right okay. I cover myself up. Miriam Moore: I feel like Madonna with one of these on I. said I feel like Madonna with one of these on. Lindsay Miller: I've always wanted one of these, I really have. Where do you buy 'em from? They're. Miriam Moore: Right. Hello everybody. Geneva Jaquess: Hello. Miriam Moore: Back again for another wonderful meeting. Is uh everyone ready? Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Karen White: Almost. Miriam Moore: Okay, we c we can hold on for a minute. Lindsay Miller: Oh my gosh. Miriam Moore: I figured with the spam thing, if you can't beat it, join in. Geneva Jaquess: That's the kind of spam that everybody likes to receive. Karen White: Mm 'kay. Miriam Moore: Are you ready? Miriam Moore: Okay, right, well, I take it that you are all ready now. Um alright first off we'll just uh recap our last meeting. Um which was we got together just to basically decide on well to talk about what it is that we were actually uh supposed to be doing, and who we all are and stuff like that, mm get bit more of an idea together of what's going on. Um what we are gonna talk about in this meeting is um now that we know what it is that we are doing, now we know that it's a T_V_ remote and stuff and you guys have just been off doing some some uh R_ and D_ for that, that's research and development for Lindsay Miller: Mm-hmm. Miriam Moore: those that haven't heard that before, see I'm learning all sorts of new technologi terms in technology today. Um yeah, we're gonna hear your uh th three little presentations, whether Geneva Jaquess: Hmm. Miriam Moore: they be on computer or on the whiteboard or whatever you want. Geneva Jaquess: Do you have any preference uh of order? Miriam Moore: Um I'd like to um hear o I'd like to hear who's g who's on the um from from uh Catherine actually first. I want what I'd like to hear about is uh if we've finally decided on um what Lindsay Miller: Batteries. Miriam Moore: sort of energy we're gonna be using and Geneva Jaquess: I think she is still finishing her. Karen White: No no no no, it's fine I'm just preparing. Miriam Moore: It's just that yeah, let's let's hear from you first. Geneva Jaquess: Hmm. Karen White: Okay. Where is that Geneva Jaquess: Okay, Karen White: thing? Geneva Jaquess: it's uh Lindsay Miller: It's here. Karen White: Oh sorry, couldn't see. Would that work? Miriam Moore: Get yourself in position. Lindsay Miller: Ah. Karen White: Okay, so that's Lindsay Miller again. Um so um for the energy sources we can have a basic battery, a hand dynamo which is which was used uh in the fifties for torches, if you remember that kind of which wouldn't Miriam Moore: I don't Karen White: be v Miriam Moore: think any of us remember Karen White: wouldn't Miriam Moore: the fifties. Karen White: be v Geneva Jaquess: Is it like Karen White: v Geneva Jaquess: a crank Karen White: yeah, Geneva Jaquess: thing Karen White: yeah. Geneva Jaquess: or something. Karen White: It wouldn't be very fancy. You can have a kinetic provision of energy, which is used on some watches these days. So if you have just a bit of gentle movement that it will give Lindsay Miller: Mm. Karen White: it the energy to work. Or you can use solar cells, but I'm not sure about that indoors, really, but Geneva Jaquess: Well, there's sometimes combinations, I mean, like calculators Karen White: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: do combinations of battery with but also using some solar power. Miriam Moore: Do Lindsay Miller: Mm. Miriam Moore: sol solar panel things, do they have to work from the sun or can they work from a light bulb? Karen White: I dunno Miriam Moore: Does anybody Karen White: actually. Miriam Moore: know? Geneva Jaquess: Uh I think, it has to be on the on the solar energy, but I know. Karen White: I dunno. Um. Think the the uh Miriam Moore: Okay. Karen White: what would cost the less would be the basic battery, really. Lindsay Miller: Mm. Karen White: And uh if we want something fancier, I think the kinetic provision of energy could be nice, but I don't know if it's worth the cost. So we've got to discuss that. Miriam Moore: Mm. Okay, jolly good. Karen White: For the case of the remotes itself, um they can be a general case, which is just a flat one. You can have uh a curved one or a double curved one, if you know what I mean, so Miriam Moore: What's a double curved one? Karen White: You know, kind of more ergonomic, that kind of suits the palm of your hand, that kind of thing. So Miriam Moore: Okay. Karen White: Um then the case material itself, so it can be uh uh either plastic or latex, uh rubber, wood, or titanium. And th for each of them you have uh cases where for example titanium, you can't use it for if you if we're choosing a double curved case, we can't choose titanium. And if we are choosing um solar cells then we can't choose latex for the case material, so we just have to take that into account. But if we're choosing just the flat case then we can go for anything. And I think we discussed earlier on the R_ S_ I_ problem thing, so we could uh Miriam Moore: So that might be an idea of using Karen White: Yeah. Miriam Moore: the rubber, but then it should, you know Geneva Jaquess: Let's have a squeezable remote. Miriam Moore: yeah. Karen White: Yeah. And also it doesn't break as easily maybe, I dunno Miriam Moore: when a T_V_ programme's got one watching the match and your team's just lost, you can fuzz it across the room and it'll bounce off the wall back Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Miriam Moore: at you. Yeah, I like that idea. Lindsay Miller: Mm. Karen White: So rubber would be Okay. Lindsay Miller: I think rubber's Miriam Moore: Rubber, we're all we're all going we're all liking that idea? You think you can market Lindsay Miller: But after Miriam Moore: that? Lindsay Miller: my after my fashion thing, I think you'll realise that rubber is more Karen White: Uh Miriam Moore: Ooh, we Karen White: s Miriam Moore: like rubber, ooh. Lindsay Miller: People. Karen White: so if d okay. And then there are the push-buttons, so you can have basic push-buttons or a scroll-wheels, like you have on a mouse, um or you could have um L_C_D_, which gives you a display. Um scroll buttons, as well. Miriam Moore: Uh-huh. Karen White: So if you use a rubber double curved case, you must use rubber push-buttons. So if we're going for rubber then we have to decide for the case. Um and if we choose double curved then we have to go for rubber push-buttons. So it's Miriam Moore: Well, Karen White: a constraint. Miriam Moore: we're gonna go with I think we've decided that it's gonna be a rubber case Karen White: Yeah, but Miriam Moore: so Karen White: is it a double curved one or not? If it's not a double curved, then we've got the choice for the push-buttons, if it's a double curve, we've gotta go for rubber push-buttons. If that makes sense. Miriam Moore: push buttons instead of the wheel? Karen White: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: If it's rubber, isn't it malleable anyway, it doesn't matter if it's double I mean isn't a rubber case, mean it's completely flexed, I mean, it it flexes to whatever they want it to? Mean so what's the difference between a normal rubber case and a rubble doub double rubber double curved Karen White: No, but Miriam Moore: rubble Geneva Jaquess: case? Miriam Moore: double double. Karen White: na le you see, you've got, okay, the energy that's Miriam Moore: I'll have Karen White: one Miriam Moore: a Big Karen White: thing, Miriam Moore: Mac, please. Karen White: then you have the case is uh, whether it's flat or curved. And that's we don't care if it's rub rubber or not, but then we've decided that we going for rubber for the case material. So if we've chosen rub rubber and if now we have the choice for the case whether it's flat, single curved or double curved. And I'm just saying if it if we choose it to be double curved then we need to go I dunno why, but we need to go for uh rubber push-buttons. Geneva Jaquess: Okay. Karen White: So, either I dunno we just need to decide on the Miriam Moore: Let's have Karen White: on Miriam Moore: rubber Karen White: the case. Miriam Moore: push buttons, hey. Geneva Jaquess: Okay. Go rubber. Go Karen White: Let's Geneva Jaquess: rubber Karen White: go crazy. Geneva Jaquess: the whole way. Karen White: And then, do I have a last slide? Yes, I do. Um so the push-buttons themselves they can be just simple or they can be so that's just the electronics between the but behind the push-buttons. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Karen White: Um and the price that go with it with it, so the simple push-buttons are gonna be the cheapest. Uh if we get a scroll-wheel, that's a higher price range. If we get an advanced chip which is um used for the L_C_D_, the display thing, then that's even more expensive. Miriam Moore: Simple, yeah. Chip on print. It's a bit. Miriam Moore: Okay, uh what I'm not understanding here Karen White: Mm. Miriam Moore: is uh, okay, advanced chip on print, which I presume is like one P_C_B_ and that's got all the electronics on one board Karen White: Yeah. Miriam Moore: including the um Karen White: The infra-red. Miriam Moore: infra-red sender? Karen White: Yeah. Miriam Moore: Right. Um what a what alternatives do we have to that? Y um what alternatives do we have to the chip Karen White: Well, Miriam Moore: on Karen White: if Miriam Moore: print? Karen White: if it's not chip on print then, I guess, you get different chip components, and you build them separately and doesn't include the infra-red. It's less expensive mm Miriam Moore: so it sounds Karen White: Technically speaking, it's not as advanced, but it does the job, too. Miriam Moore: So, why would we not go for that? If it's something Karen White: Fo Miriam Moore: that's inside the the unit. Karen White: It doesn't, Miriam Moore: I it Karen White: yeah, yeah, yeah. Miriam Moore: doesn't affects whether the customer's Karen White: Totally. Miriam Moore: gonna buy it or not. Karen White: Yeah. Miriam Moore: Um Karen White: So let's not Miriam Moore: we Karen White: go Miriam Moore: wanna Karen White: for Miriam Moore: go Karen White: the Miriam Moore: for an i i all so long as it works, Karen White: Yeah, yeah. Miriam Moore: you Karen White: I Miriam Moore: know. Karen White: agree. Miriam Moore: So let's not let's uh not bother with the chip on print. Karen White: So it's either um the scroll-wheel or the push-buttons. Miriam Moore: Yeah. S yeah, push buttons. Lindsay Miller: What about the just Geneva Jaquess: I Lindsay Miller: developed Geneva Jaquess: think push-buttons Lindsay Miller: uh sample Geneva Jaquess: is Lindsay Miller: sensor? Miriam Moore: What about what? Lindsay Miller: G there, the sample sensor, sample Karen White: Well Lindsay Miller: speaker thing. Miriam Moore: Well, what do we need a speaker for in a remote control unit? Lindsay Miller: Mm, I dunno. Be cool. Karen White: It'd Lindsay Miller: Channel Karen White: be it'd Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Karen White: be cool, Lindsay Miller: two. Karen White: but they are saying they've just developed it, I'm just guessing. But it's gonna Miriam Moore: S Karen White: be the most expensive option, probably and Geneva Jaquess: Th the the speech recognition um option is it doesn't seem really very promising for us Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: uh, 'cause Miriam Moore: It's not Geneva Jaquess: uh Miriam Moore: something that we wanna t go into with this Geneva Jaquess: The Miriam Moore: product. Geneva Jaquess: yeah the example that they're already using it for is with the coffee machine, where, basically, you can program a sample wi um That when you say something it will give a response, and you program the response as well. Just uh clips of tha that you record yourself. So you can program your coffee-maker that when you say, good morning, to it it says, hello Rick, or whatever. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: But, I mean, it's not it would Karen White: Hm. Geneva Jaquess: be one thing if it was speech recognition where you say something and it turns the T_V_ on like, turn the T_V_ on, and i turns comes on, but it's not that. It just gives Lindsay Miller: Oh, Geneva Jaquess: you Lindsay Miller: it Geneva Jaquess: a Lindsay Miller: just gives an answer. Geneva Jaquess: it just gives you a verbal response. So, yeah, I mean, Lindsay Miller: Oh, then then Geneva Jaquess: like what's the point of saying, Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: Hello remote, I mean, hello, Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: how how are Lindsay Miller: I Geneva Jaquess: you? Lindsay Miller: thought I thought it was when Karen White: Just Lindsay Miller: they Karen White: if Lindsay Miller: said Karen White: you are really lonely, Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, Karen White: maybe. Geneva Jaquess: if you're really lonely, it Lindsay Miller: I thought Geneva Jaquess: is it's Lindsay Miller: when they said, voice recognition, they meant um like, channel five, and it Geneva Jaquess: No, Lindsay Miller: will change. Geneva Jaquess: tha that Lindsay Miller: Like Geneva Jaquess: w Lindsay Miller: you Geneva Jaquess: that Lindsay Miller: talk Geneva Jaquess: w Lindsay Miller: to it. Geneva Jaquess: that would be Lindsay Miller: Can Geneva Jaquess: more Lindsay Miller: I Geneva Jaquess: promising. Lindsay Miller: have channel five? Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: It it's just a remote that talks to you. Uh. Lindsay Miller: Oh, Miriam Moore: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: then forget Miriam Moore: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: about it. Oh right okay. Geneva Jaquess: I mean to certain cues. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Karen White: Okay, so I'll go back, maybe, to the previous slide and we can decide for each problem, what we should choose. So Geneva Jaquess: 'Kay. Karen White: for the energy source, do we go for the battery or the Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, I'm fine with the basic battery. Miriam Moore: Basic Lindsay Miller: Mm. Miriam Moore: battery. It's cheap, it's cheerful, it's worked, does work. Geneva Jaquess: Hmm. Karen White: Cheaper option. Are Lindsay Miller: Mm. Karen White: you happy with that? Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Karen White: Okay. So we'll go for the battery. Then the case, do you want it flat or curved or sing or Miriam Moore: We Karen White: double Miriam Moore: were go Karen White: curved? Miriam Moore: we were going with the late with the the R_S_I_ rubber, weren't Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, Miriam Moore: we? Geneva Jaquess: so we want it rub rubber double curved. Miriam Moore: The the Lindsay Miller: So it will look like Karen White: Double? Lindsay Miller: something like Miriam Moore: The double Lindsay Miller: this. Miriam Moore: whopper, please. Karen White: Okay, so then if we use double Miriam Moore: Yep, Karen White: curved Miriam Moore: but Karen White: case, then we have Miriam Moore: we're going Karen White: to Miriam Moore: for Karen White: u Miriam Moore: the simple Karen White: choose Miriam Moore: buttons. Geneva Jaquess: So rubber Karen White: rubber push-buttons, Geneva Jaquess: rubber keys, Miriam Moore: Yeah. Karen White: and that's Geneva Jaquess: yeah. Karen White: fine? Miriam Moore: And it's cheapest all round, it sounds kinda funky, and Karen White: P Miriam Moore: we can also Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Miriam Moore: market it as i 'cause we were s saying earl you were saying earlier in your research that um the the people have the R_ people were getting the complaining about R_S_I_, and this is anti-R_S_I_. Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Karen White: Yeah. Miriam Moore: So that's another marketing point that we can use. Lindsay Miller: Well the rubber push-buttons. Don't you have to move Miriam Moore: But Lindsay Miller: your Miriam Moore: anything is gonna have buttons. Lindsay Miller: Mm. Miriam Moore: Even if it's a jog wheel, it's still repetitive. Karen White: I thought they Miriam Moore: You Karen White: would give an option of flat buttons or a Miriam Moore: You see, you can Karen White: That Miriam Moore: still Karen White: they don't. Miriam Moore: get it does you still get repetitive strain injury, whether you are pressing a button or pressing a flat bit of screen. It's the v it's the Karen White: Mm. Miriam Moore: fact that you are pressing the same doing the same movement. It's not actually what you are doing. But the fact that this this rubber i is actually used in these anti-R_S_I_ ps specific Lindsay Miller: Mm. Yeah, the Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: rubber's good. Geneva Jaquess: We're giving them a way to burn off steam, basically, yeah. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: Yeah, so they can sit there and go like Geneva Jaquess: Not that watching T_V_ should be that stressful. Miriam Moore: And you know, yeah, you can fuzz it across the room and throw Geneva Jaquess: Oh Miriam Moore: it Geneva Jaquess: yeah, Miriam Moore: at throw Geneva Jaquess: I guess Miriam Moore: it Geneva Jaquess: T_V_ Miriam Moore: at your Geneva Jaquess: can Miriam Moore: children Geneva Jaquess: be stressful, yeah, if you're watching sports. Miriam Moore: yeah. Karen White: Alright, that's Lindsay Miller done. Geneva Jaquess: Alright. Alright. Miriam Moore: about the um it's the interface. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, some of what I have to say ties into what Catherine was just talking about. Miriam Moore: Great. Karen White: Sorry. Geneva Jaquess: Okay, so I'm continuing with the user interface uh topic. And so basically I consulted with our manufacturing division. It sounded like Catherine was also speaking with them. Uh I also took uh Reissa's marketing findings from the last meeting into consideration um, 'cause I think that's that's crucial as far as uh what keys we're going to inc inclu what buttons we are going to include and and how they're laid out. Miriam Moore: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: Uh and so the manufacturing division uh sent some some samples of of uh interface components that we might be interested in using that have been used in other products, uh like the coffee machine. So I already mentioned the speech recognition interface. I guess, we we basically vetoed that idea. It's it's pointless. Miriam Moore: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: Uh it's just a sample sensor sample output. It would just be probably the most expensive part of our remote without any actual interesting functionality as far as operating the T_V_. Uh so yeah, they they also give the uh they they suggested the idea of using a spinning wheel like you use on the Lindsay Miller: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: side of Miriam Moore: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: an M_P_ three player like iPod. Um so we've already addressed that and I think that would actually be worse for something like R_S_I_ I mean you got that thumb movement Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: that you're constantly Lindsay Miller: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: doing. Lindsay Miller: That does get Geneva Jaquess: Um Lindsay Miller: annoying. Geneva Jaquess: the other suggestion, and I I have a feeling that we're interested in in something more general, but they suggested uh, you know, going i a little bit into a a niche, like either gearing our remote towards kids, where you could have lot of colours um, the keys might be you know, funny or or, or uh something Miriam Moore: Mm-hmm. Geneva Jaquess: for the elderly, where the remote's very large and the buttons are very large and there's only a few buttons. But you know we can we can discuss this, but it sounded like from our last meeting we really wanted something that was general, but done well. Uh Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: um So, the key layout and design are really crucial. You don't want uh you want people to be able to quickly access the buttons that they use a lot without uh always pressing the wrong one um. And I didn't mention that we need a power button in our last I can give you an example here of uh, good layout and bad layout uh from our manufacturing department. So this would be an example of bad layout, Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: of them, so Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: uh it's sort of confusing for the user. Uh Miriam Moore: Do we have an uh example Geneva Jaquess: this is Miriam Moore: of Geneva Jaquess: the Miriam Moore: a Geneva Jaquess: example Miriam Moore: good one? Geneva Jaquess: of the giant remote that's impossible to lose. Lindsay Miller: Uh-huh. Miriam Moore: Brilliant. Lindsay Miller: Well Geneva Jaquess: And for something for kids. Yeah. Um. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: And so, yeah, I th I think my personal preferences of we've all kind of talked about and seemed to be on the same page um. Uh so I was against the speech recognition and against going uh towards anything in in a niche sense. I think it should be more general. Miriam Moore: Mm-hmm. Geneva Jaquess: I didn't I didn't think the spinning-wheel or the uh L_C_ display were were crucial for us. And, yeah, that's it for Lindsay Miller. Miriam Moore: Okay. Well let's um so w what are our definite decisions on this then as a team? The um The the um the interface type we're going for Geneva Jaquess: So we're we're not gonna have any sort of display I think uh. Miriam Moore: Just the simple Geneva Jaquess: So, yeah, Miriam Moore: s Geneva Jaquess: it's just gonna be Miriam Moore: simple straight set Geneva Jaquess: just Miriam Moore: of Geneva Jaquess: gonna Miriam Moore: buttons. Geneva Jaquess: be push-buttons. Um. I think we shall have a limited number of buttons, ideally, I mean Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: a a power, channel up, channel down, volume up, volume Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: down, and a numerical keypad. Uh. And some sort of it will either have a a lock button like we mentioned or or a cover or something like that. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: I guess it's to the point where we need to decide about that. Miriam Moore: Okay, and we're not yeah. Geneva Jaquess: Well now that we've decided Miriam Moore: Are Geneva Jaquess: on Miriam Moore: we Geneva Jaquess: our Miriam Moore: gonna hav hav an are we d have we decided on whether w we're gonna s supplement it with anything, you know, colours or particular gimmicky bits to it, we're not we're just gonna go for something Geneva Jaquess: Um Miriam Moore: We're Geneva Jaquess: it seems Lindsay Miller: Maybe Geneva Jaquess: like we wouldn't wanna Lindsay Miller: we can Geneva Jaquess: make it too busy and too sort of gaudy, but um Yeah, I would say mayb maybe a couple of colours like uh like a black with with yellow and somewhere, like maybe the R_R_ Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: can be yellow, or something like that. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Okay. Okey-dokey. Yeah, I don't have any other questions on this. Let's move over Geneva Jaquess: I Miriam Moore: to Geneva Jaquess: I guess the fact uh also that we are having a rubber case uh would prevent us from having the cover function that we thought of before. I mean, 'cause Miriam Moore: Yeah, Geneva Jaquess: uh s Miriam Moore: sure. Geneva Jaquess: so if we wanna have a lock of some sort it would have to be a button. But I think that should be I mean um, I can speak with the button department, but uh I think that it should be easy to have a button that just Miriam Moore: Yeah, the Geneva Jaquess: prevents Miriam Moore: button that Geneva Jaquess: prevents Miriam Moore: just does Geneva Jaquess: the Miriam Moore: that, Geneva Jaquess: other Miriam Moore: yeah. Geneva Jaquess: uh the other buttons from operating. So that should be simple. Miriam Moore: Cool. Lindsay Miller: Right. Well, I'm just basically letting you know what's happening in the markets Miriam Moore: Mm yeah. Lindsay Miller: and what the fashions are for next year. Um. So yes, so from looking at this year's trends and fashions Miriam Moore: Mm-hmm. Lindsay Miller: and also recent investigation that we've done in the remote control market, we have found that for the remote control market these are like most important aspects like that we really need to which we've already probably discussed. Um the most important aspect is look and feel. So the remote control has to look and feel fancier than the ones that already that we already have. So it has to be Miriam Moore: Yeah, why should people Lindsay Miller: Yep. Miriam Moore: buy this when they're already got Lindsay Miller: Exactly. Miriam Moore: a remote Geneva Jaquess: Mm. Miriam Moore: that came with the T_V_? Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: Um second, uh it should be technologically innovative innovative. So Miriam Moore: What's that mean? Lindsay Miller: Technologically it should be like um work, basically, I guess. It should work. Geneva Jaquess: Well it should be it should be Lindsay Miller: Should Geneva Jaquess: maybe cutting edge in some sense, I mean have something that's little more Lindsay Miller: That's Geneva Jaquess: technologically Lindsay Miller: new. Geneva Jaquess: advanced Miriam Moore: Okay, Geneva Jaquess: than what's on the market. Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Miriam Moore: now the trouble is is we've Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Miriam Moore: already decided that we're going with the stuff that works already, that's Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Miriam Moore: cheap. Geneva Jaquess: Actually, Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: I mean, these first two points we've already sort of gone away from, 'cause Lindsay Miller: Mm. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: our rubber one is not fancy I mean it's different, but I wouldn't say like a rubber remote is fancy. If that's what people want then we maybe we're going in the wrong direction. And it's it's not technologically innovative either. Lindsay Miller: So, Miriam Moore: Maybe Geneva Jaquess: Mm. Miriam Moore: we Lindsay Miller: no loose Miriam Moore: could um Lindsay Miller: That's why I was thinking, Bluetooth, 'cause if you like put up Bluetooth, and it's like a Bluetooth remote control, everybody's gonna like, oh, 'cause Bluetooth is the in thing nowadays, like it really is, like people and um when it comes to marketing like that's what people go for, they don't really care whether, you know, at the end of the day whether it works properly or not. Miriam Moore: Of course, they do. Lindsay Miller: Well, they do, but it's Miriam Moore: One Lindsay Miller: like Miriam Moore: hundred Lindsay Miller: it's not Miriam Moore: per cent, that's your first thing, you go, oh I'm not gonna buy that, 'cause I dunno if it works or not. Lindsay Miller: Yeah, but it looks good. If it looks good and it's it can just be there for decoration. Miriam Moore: Okay, well, what do you two think about this? Geneva Jaquess: So is is the advantage Lindsay Miller: But Geneva Jaquess: of Lindsay Miller: like Geneva Jaquess: Bluetooth that you can just like synchronise it with other electronics? Miriam Moore: Yeah, what I don't understand what Lindsay Miller: You could always insert, Miriam Moore: m Lindsay Miller: yeah. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, that's basically what it allows you to do, right? Miriam Moore: Yeah, and it this is just gonna all this is being used for is your television. Lindsay Miller: Yeah, but, I mean, people Miriam Moore: It Lindsay Miller: like Miriam Moore: would that would mean you'd need a television that has Bluetooth in it, which Lindsay Miller: Well, Miriam Moore: no no Lindsay Miller: if you're Miriam Moore: television Karen White: Well Lindsay Miller: looking at Miriam Moore: does, does it? Lindsay Miller: if you looking at something that's going to be bought by people, you have to make it new, you have to make it Miriam Moore: That would mean Lindsay Miller: state Miriam Moore: we'd have to Lindsay Miller: of Miriam Moore: make Lindsay Miller: the art. Miriam Moore: a television as well. Karen White: Bluetooth would, for example, enable you, I think, to um um connect for example you if you get a w call on your mobile phone, but your mobile phone is downstairs or something, you would get on your television you're being called by this person right now. Things like that. Miriam Moore: No, that would be your telephone in with your television. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, Karen White: No Geneva Jaquess: the that wouldn't Karen White: i Geneva Jaquess: be the remote so much, Miriam Moore: Yeah, Geneva Jaquess: I mean Karen White: No, Miriam Moore: and Karen White: but Miriam Moore: i Karen White: if you get Bluetooth on the remote, you'd be able to Miriam Moore: Nah, the televi Karen White: I with the television, yeah. Miriam Moore: the television would have to be Karen White: I Miriam Moore: a Karen White: was Miriam Moore: Bluetooth Karen White: just trying to find Miriam Moore: compatible, Karen White: an advantage. Geneva Jaquess: Mm. Miriam Moore: basically. Karen White: Wha what w Lindsay Miller: Well, Karen White: what Lindsay Miller: it doesn't Karen White: advantage Miriam Moore: An Karen White: would Miriam Moore: and Karen White: you Miriam Moore: there Karen White: get Miriam Moore: is no Karen White: for Miriam Moore: there Karen White: the Miriam Moore: is no such thing. Lindsay Miller: Like it doesn't have to be, you know, Bluetooth, that was just an idea, but like it needs do something that, you know, is new. Whether it's a battery it could be something really really minor, you know, like but I think we are really keeping to what is already out there, and people've already seen it, people've already got it. Miriam Moore: Okay. Lindsay Miller: If we want something new, we need to move away from what we already have and um Karen White: Maybe the kinetic Lindsay Miller: just go creative. Karen White: mo provision of energy then. It's been done for watches, but I haven't seen that for remotes, Miriam Moore: Okay. Karen White: yet. Miriam Moore: Yeah, this that's that's Lindsay Miller: And then Miriam Moore: very Lindsay Miller: you can market Miriam Moore: good. Lindsay Miller: it. Never have to change Karen White: Change Lindsay Miller: a Karen White: the Lindsay Miller: battery Karen White: batteries Lindsay Miller: again. Karen White: ever again. Miriam Moore: And and this is all tying in very nicely. The fact that it's made out of this rubber, we can throw it about. Th we should encourage people to throw their remote controls about, because it charges itself Karen White: Yeah, well, Miriam Moore: up by Geneva Jaquess: Yes, Miriam Moore: doing Karen White: and Geneva Jaquess: so Miriam Moore: it. Geneva Jaquess: can Karen White: in little characters you say, yeah, but not too much. Lindsay Miller: I think, safety Miriam Moore: But yeah, by the squeezing it Lindsay Miller: s Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, Miriam Moore: the Geneva Jaquess: we can make the squeezing of the rubber be the be the generating Miriam Moore: Yeah, Geneva Jaquess: like the energy Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: generator. Miriam Moore: that's a great idea. Well done. Lindsay Miller: Third most important aspect uh is it's easy to use. And I think we've all Geneva Jaquess: we're Lindsay Miller: um Geneva Jaquess: all about that. Lindsay Miller: worked that out. Um okay, in the fashion, how it's supposed to look. Next year's fashion i very much in fruit and vegetables are thm are like the theme for cloths, shoes and furniture. So next year people will be buying, I found this really funny, you know, strawberry shaped chairs, Geneva Jaquess: Okay, so we Lindsay Miller: and Geneva Jaquess: could have Lindsay Miller: things. Geneva Jaquess: keys that are like a b like a broccoli key and a Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: uh Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: and an avocado Lindsay Miller: Rubber Miriam Moore: I wanna Geneva Jaquess: key Miriam Moore: watch Geneva Jaquess: on Miriam Moore: the Geneva Jaquess: them. Lindsay Miller: things. Miriam Moore: pineapple channel. Lindsay Miller: Um and as it's rubber the feel which is in this year is spongy, so it's it's not quite spongy, Miriam Moore: Well Lindsay Miller: but Miriam Moore: spongy, Lindsay Miller: spongy, Miriam Moore: that's Lindsay Miller: I would Miriam Moore: where. Lindsay Miller: say Miriam Moore: Yeah, Lindsay Miller: is Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, Miriam Moore: we're Geneva Jaquess: that's Lindsay Miller: yeah, Geneva Jaquess: great Miriam Moore: we're Geneva Jaquess: for us. Lindsay Miller: so Miriam Moore: ahead Lindsay Miller: we're Miriam Moore: of Lindsay Miller: in. Miriam Moore: the game there. Lindsay Miller: Yeah. And so personal what I was just saying like move away from the current remote controls uh like the look and the feel of the current ones and change the look and feel, while still keeping to the company's image, basically. So yeah. Miriam Moore: Okay. Lindsay Miller: I had to say So Geneva Jaquess: Right. Lindsay Miller: we're moving in the right direction Miriam Moore: Alright, Lindsay Miller: like Miriam Moore: yeah, no, Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Miriam Moore: this i this is good, so through all that we've we go we're right, we're gonna go go back to um going with the kinetic Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, Karen White: Yep. Geneva Jaquess: that's great. Miriam Moore: thing, that's great, using the spongy rubber that we were talking about that anti-R_S_I_ you can as you squeeze it you are not only therapeuticising yourself, you are charging the batteries, Lindsay Miller: Mm. Miriam Moore: and um I'm not sure about the buttons being in the shape of fruit though. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, I don't know how we Karen White: No Geneva Jaquess: incorporate Karen White: vegetables. Geneva Jaquess: We don't have Lindsay Miller: Maybe Geneva Jaquess: to follow Lindsay Miller: make Geneva Jaquess: every Lindsay Miller: it Geneva Jaquess: trend, Lindsay Miller: like Geneva Jaquess: I guess. Lindsay Miller: fruity colours or something. Some Geneva Jaquess: Uh-huh. Lindsay Miller: sort. Or Geneva Jaquess: The power Lindsay Miller: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: button could be like a big apple or something. Karen White: Well yeah, but Apple would sue you for that. Miriam Moore: Yeah, this is true. Geneva Jaquess: They don they don't own all images of apples. Karen White: sued the Beatles so Geneva Jaquess: Okay, we'll make it a uh pomegranate, a big pomegranate. Miriam Moore: Well, okay, it seems like the only thing that we haven't really finally um agreed on is its image. Like, yeah, we're we're saying no we don't want it to be fruit and vegetables, but we dunno what it should be, or like are we going yeah it looks slick, but Lindsay Miller: Well Miriam Moore: what do what do we mean by slick sort of thing? Lindsay Miller: I think, if it's rubber it needs to be Miriam Moore: I mean you said earlier on i it should be funky. Lindsay Miller: different. I think, it's it should be you associate with rubber? You know like really different Miriam Moore: L Lindsay Miller: colours Miriam Moore: keep it Lindsay Miller: basically. Miriam Moore: clean, keep Lindsay Miller: Okay, Miriam Moore: it clean. Lindsay Miller: sor I sorry, I used the wrong word, what do you associate with the mate the material that material? Um Um like I'm just thinking bright colours. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: Bright natural colours, nothing too Miriam Moore: Bright, but not too Lindsay Miller: Bright, Miriam Moore: bright. Lindsay Miller: but too not yeah. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: Like no lime green or bright yellow or bright pink. Wanna make it different colours so anybody can choo like Miriam Moore: Like the volume Lindsay Miller: like Miriam Moore: buttons should be the all the same colour and the d and the the channel buttons Geneva Jaquess: Mm. Miriam Moore: should be one colour and stuff like that, do you mean? Lindsay Miller: Yeah. And on the back of it have the logo. Miriam Moore: Okay, what? Karen White: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: Sure. Karen White: Why not? Miriam Moore: Okay. Geneva Jaquess: The one Miriam Moore: Tha Geneva Jaquess: thing I'm wondering about, I hope that we're not going like too much down a gimmicky road of of Miriam Moore: Yeah, Geneva Jaquess: having Miriam Moore: I mean Geneva Jaquess: I Miriam Moore: we Geneva Jaquess: mean Miriam Moore: that's Geneva Jaquess: if somebody Miriam Moore: we Geneva Jaquess: go goes Miriam Moore: we Geneva Jaquess: into the store they're gonna see like three or four normal remotes, and then a big spongy pink t tomato Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: uh remote. Miriam Moore: This Geneva Jaquess: I mean what are ninety Miriam Moore: is Geneva Jaquess: per Miriam Moore: the Geneva Jaquess: cent Miriam Moore: remote Geneva Jaquess: of people Miriam Moore: control Geneva Jaquess: gonna take? Miriam Moore: tomato. Lindsay Miller: Well I can say in this country, you'll get, you know, lots of people wanting something really funky and cool. Like and kids will be walking in with their parents saying, Mummy I wanna buy that one. And uh parents will see the will see the pro as well, because it's um like kids won't break it, it's not breakable if you throw it around. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: Especially with younger kids, you know they can pick it up and and Yeah. The only thing is is that really small kids might chew on it, but Miriam Moore: Well, it's it's gotta be chew proof. Lindsay Miller: Yeah. So Karen White: I'm gonna write that Lindsay Miller: so it's Karen White: down. Lindsay Miller: rea it's quite it's quite like um user friendly and also for different families, like like family use as well, so for little kids and for old ki like teenagers will like it, I think. Especially maybe younger girls if it's in pink they'll be like pink remote control for their room something. Miriam Moore: So, what are you saying, maybe we should market it in different colours Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Miriam Moore: for different so we could do Karen White: That's Miriam Moore: like Geneva Jaquess: Mm. Miriam Moore: the pink Karen White: yeah. Miriam Moore: range, the blue range, the green range, the Lindsay Miller: So like you walk in, you're like, oh I like that remote control, because it's so bright, and then, and then the shop assistant comes up and says, oh what colour would you like? and then they go like, oh I can choose the colour wow. So it puts, I think, even the customer into more control over what they're buying instead of, you've got all colour it's either that or nothing. So they also get to pick. Well, personally I like walking into a shop and choosing a colour. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah I mean, that that seems Lindsay Miller: It's Geneva Jaquess: to work Lindsay Miller: um Geneva Jaquess: well with for products like iPod, where, you know, you have Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: a Miriam Moore: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: variety of colours, that people feel like they're customising it Lindsay Miller: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: when they buy it, even, you Lindsay Miller: D Geneva Jaquess: know, Lindsay Miller: you've Karen White: Although Geneva Jaquess: just Lindsay Miller: got Geneva Jaquess: just Karen White: I'd Geneva Jaquess: by Lindsay Miller: the Karen White: be Geneva Jaquess: the Karen White: curious Geneva Jaquess: fact of choosing. Karen White: to see how many uh You know, there are some colours that I wouldn I would never choose, and I would be curious how many people choose that colour. Geneva Jaquess: Right. Miriam Moore: Well that's that can be down to bit of market researching Karen White: Mm. Miriam Moore: you know, if that's Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Miriam Moore: easy enough to find out what colours are more popular. Karen White: And produce less of the silly colours, maybe. Miriam Moore: Mm. Okay. Alright. Well um, we'll alright let's what we're gonna aim to get together by the next meeting then um is from you Catherine wi your y y you know you're gonna be working on the the look and feel design. Karen White: Yep. Miriam Moore: Um Gabriel, you're gonna be working on, you know come up with the the user interface design. Then basically, you two are gonna be working together on this. You won't be going off Karen White: Alright. Miriam Moore: to your separate offices. Geneva Jaquess: Okay. Miriam Moore: Um and I think you are gonna get a chance to play with some clay. Geneva Jaquess: Oh right. Miriam Moore: I think, yeah, it's gonna Karen White: Mm. Miriam Moore: you know, come up ki you know, be ab for the next meeting be able to come in and show us some some i some physical ideas. 'Cause at Karen White: Cool. Miriam Moore: the moment, uh you know, it's it's hard. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Miriam Moore: We Karen White: It Miriam Moore: were Karen White: is. Miriam Moore: kinda going, yeah, it's gotta feel nice, it's gotta look cool and that it's you know now we can actually start, you know, s some sort of physical something or other. Geneva Jaquess: That sounds good. Miriam Moore: Um and you're gonna be working on the product evaluation. Lindsay Miller: Evaluation. Miriam Moore: Um. And I will be uh talking to the bosses, basically, and uh f fielding off some more spam and uh Karen White: Great. Miriam Moore: that's it really. Keeping things t well, uh you know, ho hopefully uh keeping things together. Um. Yeah, that's This is this is uh good. So we know for definite we know we've we've now got some definite things going on. We definitely Geneva Jaquess: Mm. Miriam Moore: know how it's powered, we definitely know that um it's gonna be a simple buttons, we're not gonna be going for the new technological chip on print expensive things, so we've we're keeping the costs down. It's this rubber casing that we can sell as um fun and funky. Don't know of any other remote controls that are made out of this stuff. Lindsay Miller: Mm. Miriam Moore: People, you know, people are saying, oh, standard stuff gives you repetitive strain injury, well this remote control is designed to do the complete opposite, Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Miriam Moore: It's supposed to fix it rather than cause it. Um. you know, we're gonna we we're gonna as a sort of extra something on it, you know what what extra things are there extra things this product have? We'll look into this lock key Geneva Jaquess: Right. Miriam Moore: facility, although whether or not it happens, or is possible, I don't know, but something to look into. Okay. I think that's um well done everybody. Geneva Jaquess: Alright. Miriam Moore: Anyone have any uh any questions, everyone know what they're doing? Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Miriam Moore: 'Cause if you don't, you'll I'm sure you'll soon get an e-mail about it. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Mm, I think we all know what Lindsay Miller: S Geneva Jaquess: we need to do now. Lindsay Miller: This gives you all the details? Miriam Moore: Okay. Geneva Jaquess: Okay. Miriam Moore: right well. It's um we're we've still couple of minutes until our meeting's due to finish. But um I got a note saying that you two who are gonna be working together so Geneva Jaquess: Okay, I'll stay Miriam Moore: bef Geneva Jaquess: in here. Miriam Moore: before you all disappear off just Lindsay Miller: um. Miriam Moore: hold hold fire. Um. Geneva Jaquess: Does the pay-raise immediately come into effect on our next pay-check, or is that Miriam Moore: Um I think, it's uh, yeah, I think, it's gonna be par part more of a profit sharing on the product. Geneva Jaquess: So we're buying fut I mean, we're getting futures in the company. Miriam Moore: Yeah, I think i I think that's I think that's the way it's gonna happen at the moment. Geneva Jaquess: So we really have a incentive to make this remote work. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: I'd like to share in the coffee machine profits, because that's really doing well. Miriam Moore: I want a share in the space rocket. Did you see that this k Geneva Jaquess: Yeah. Miriam Moore: that this company we've made Lindsay Miller: Yeah. Miriam Moore: a spaceship. Geneva Jaquess: This company has its its fingers in a lot of different pots. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Lindsay Miller: Mm. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: Yeah, we're definitely not in the money making department. Geneva Jaquess: Well I I did notice looking at I mean, they told you that they wanted whatev our product to represent the the R_R_ brand and and to be immediately Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: noticeable. I mean, if you look like at the coffee maker at the at the corporate web page, it's Lindsay Miller: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: not obvious. R_R_. Well it is to us, because we we worked worked here for years and we use that coffee machine, but it's doesn't have the colour scheme of of the of the company anywhere on it obviously it's just Miriam Moore: Mm. Geneva Jaquess: sil silver and black. Karen White: That's true. Miriam Moore: And the spaceship doesn't have the R_ Geneva Jaquess: No. Miriam Moore: have a massive R_ and R_ down the side of it but Geneva Jaquess: Mm. Karen White: Doesn't Miriam Moore: I still want one. Okay. Um I've just had a sign flashing up saying, finish the meeting. Karen White: Yeah. Miriam Moore: Uh. Geneva Jaquess: Okay. Miriam Moore: Yeah. Geneva Jaquess: Right, well, I guess that's us. Miriam Moore: Yeah. It's not telling it's not saying do anything in particular just yet. So maybe you should go back to your own offices. Geneva Jaquess: Okay. Right. Karen White: Are we taking these off? Miriam Moore: Yeah. Yeah, it says you two.

Miriam Moore recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Karen White discussed different options for batteries, materials, and components, as well as restrictions involved in combining particular materials, components, and batteries. The team then discussed and decided what materials, components, and what type of battery to use in their product. The interface specialist presented examples of existing remotes on the market with good and bad layouts and stated what features the remote required. Lindsay Miller discussed research from trendwatching reports, finding that products now require technological innovativeness, a fancy look and feel, a spongy feel, and a fruit and vegetable theme. This lead to a discussion on whether to use Bluetooth or infra-red technology in remote. The team then discussed how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into the remote.

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Christa Upchurch: Good to see you all again. Let's see if that comes up. This is our functional design meeting. Um. Just a sec while my PowerPoint comes up. Et voila. Okay. Mm um we put the fashion in electronics. Let's start. Okay, our agenda today um just check the time, it's twelve thirteen. Um. I'm gonna do an opening, talk about um did you all get the minutes? I e-mailed them to you. I'm also Betsey Deroche: Yep. Christa Upchurch: putting 'em them in the shared folder. So Linda Rizo: Right. Christa Upchurch: um then I we'll talk about our general objectives and have your three presentations. Um I'll talk about the new project requirements I've just received, and then we have to make a decision on our remote control functions. Finally we'll just close. We're starting this meeting at approximately twelve thirteen and we have forty minutes. So First of all the functional design objectives. Uh we need to keep in mind the user requirement specification, what needs and desires are to be fulfilled, the functions design, what effects the apparatus should have, and the working design, how the apparatus actually works to fulfil its function. Okay, three presentations, um you can go in any order you choose um. Aracely Sansone: Mm shall we go in the that you just did it? Christa Upchurch: Sure, please do. Aracely Sansone: I dunno. How do I hook my screen up? Linda Rizo: I think you might have to disconnect. Christa Upchurch: Yes I do. Christa Upchurch: Yeah. Betsey Deroche: Well there's a wee Aracely Sansone: Where Betsey Deroche: a Aracely Sansone: does Betsey Deroche: wee Aracely Sansone: it go? Betsey Deroche: plug just Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: that one there Aracely Sansone: Hmm, I'm not supposed to move this, but Betsey Deroche: Ah that's it, yep. Betsey Deroche: And then you have to press function F_ eight I Christa Upchurch: Function, Betsey Deroche: think it Christa Upchurch: F_ Betsey Deroche: is Christa Upchurch: eight, Betsey Deroche: on Christa Upchurch: yeah. Betsey Deroche: your laptop. Aracely Sansone: Where's Christa Upchurch: The Aracely Sansone: function? Christa Upchurch: blue one, F_N_. Aracely Sansone: No signal. Christa Upchurch: Is it plugged in all the way and you screwed it in and Aracely Sansone: Ah, Linda Rizo: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: wait, 's screw in. Linda Rizo: I I Aracely Sansone: Push Linda Rizo: think Aracely Sansone: the screw. Linda Rizo: you just have to push it in really hard. Betsey Deroche: That's it. Linda Rizo: Oh, got it. Christa Upchurch: Mm 'kay. Aracely Sansone: Mm alright Christa Upchurch: It's taking it a little bit Aracely Sansone: I've never attached to anything. Linda Rizo: Mm, neither have I. Christa Upchurch: 'Kay there you go. Aracely Sansone: Alright, Linda Rizo: Alright. Aracely Sansone: so, I don't know if you guys are able to get access to um the report that was online or if I'm the only who is. But, I don't even know how to play this. No. Christa Upchurch: Press the little presentation. It's the um it looks like a Y_ kind of over there above Draw. There, that one, there you Aracely Sansone: Alright. Christa Upchurch: go. Aracely Sansone: So we're just gonna talk a little bit about the functional requirements that people specified when they were asked. Um I guess Real Reaction did some market research. They had a hundred subjects and their usability lab and they watched them watch T_V_ and recorded the frequency that they used particular buttons and the relevance that those buttons had. What they found was they analysed people's desires and needs. Focusing on their desires, um people specifically said that they thought remotes were ugly, seventy five per cent of the a hundred subjects noted that and that they more importantly though, eighty per cent said that they would be willing to pay more for a fancier looking remote. I don't know anything Linda Rizo: Hmm. Aracely Sansone: beyond what fancy means, but that's particularly of use to us, I think. Um also they did some questions on voice recognition and found that the desire for voice recognition was inversely related to age, so younger people were more inclined to want something with voice recognition, whereas the older people in the like sixty and above segment or so did not really think that they would pay more money for voice recognitions. Um Linda Rizo: 'Kay. Aracely Sansone: people also had certain frustrations, that I think that we could try to take into consideration with our design. That being people k um frustrated with losing their remotes. I think, over fifty percent of the people mentioned that that was their biggest frustration. People are also frustrated with the difficulty it is to learn how to use a remote and I think that ties back to what you were saying before Linda Rizo: Hmm. Aracely Sansone: just that there's too many buttons, it just needs to be easy to use. It also mentioned something called R_S_I_ and I was hoping someone might be able to inform Aracely Sansone as to what R_S_I_ is, because Betsey Deroche: Repetitive Aracely Sansone: I don't know. Betsey Deroche: strain injury. Aracely Sansone: What? Betsey Deroche: Repetitive strain injury. Aracely Sansone: Ah. There we go. Wow. Betsey Deroche: So Aracely Sansone: People Betsey Deroche: if Aracely Sansone: do Betsey Deroche: you Aracely Sansone: not like that. So I guess sort of the carpal tunnel type thing, people do not like that, um the repetitive use, I guess, caused a strain. Um looking at the needs people specified, the problem right now is that people's remotes are not matching their operating behaviour. People are only using ten per cent of the buttons that they have offered to them on their remote. And what people do most often is changing the channel and changing the volume. People also zap like to change the channel, about um sixty five per cent during an hour of use. So we really just need to focus in on those volumes and channel changers rather than things like the audio settings, the screen settings and the channel settings, because they're used much more infrequently and probably just complicate what's going on. So I think that some things that we might wanna think about, the idea of an L_C_D_ screen was brought up although they didn't have any details on what people's preferences on that were, so I dunno know if that's coming to Aracely Sansone later, or something like that. But something for us to consider also just the phenomenon that less is more when it comes to the buttons on the remote or what we wanna make easiest to use, make sure that, you know, something like an audio setting isn't given as much importance and visibility on the remote as something like channel changing that's used a lot more often. And basically in order for us to win over to the consumer we just need to focus on what it looks like, that it has a fancy appeal and that it's not ugly and that it feels like the way they're gonna use it, so it doesn't give them any hand injuries or things like that. Linda Rizo: Hmm. Christa Upchurch: Thank you very much. That was that was great. Linda Rizo: Mm 'kay. Christa Upchurch: Um 's move on to the next presentation um on effects. Was that Aracely Sansone: Hmm. Christa Upchurch: you? Great. Aracely Sansone: Yeah, have I unscrewed it? Christa Upchurch: Push. User interface, right. Interface. Aracely Sansone: Here we go. Betsey Deroche: Cheers. Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. And I think that's in the shared, if I did it right, if anyone wants to look at Christa Upchurch: Mm Aracely Sansone: it. Linda Rizo: Okay, Christa Upchurch: 'kay, thank you. Linda Rizo: great. Christa Upchurch: Okay. Betsey Deroche: Here we go. Right so I'm gonna talk about the technical technical functions design of the remote control um. We need to start by considering what a remote control actually is. It's a device that allows us produce certain effects on, so i it's basically a communication device. We we tell the remote control what we want to do, it sends a message to the television saying change the channel, change the volume, uh yeah, adjust these settings, adjust the brightness. Um how do we actually go about designing a new television remote control? First thing to do is to come up with the design specifications. We need to know what our final product is gonna be like, so we need a a clear idea of exactly what this product does, uh how it works, and what the end-user is gonna want from this product. Um. Oh, a way I'd suggest that we could go about this is by designing uh several different prototypes of user interfaces for this product, um and then uh trying to get some feedback uh about h how well these particular prototypes work, uh sorta find out what people think of 'em. Um using a remote control is is quite a subjective experience. Um, Christa Upchurch: Hmm. Betsey Deroche: and different different people sort of prefer different things. Um we should remember that remote controls are a a fairly standard piece of equipment. When a users using a remote control, he or she expects the buttons to be in certain places. So in some sense we're gonna we're gonna have to aim for a device which is fairly conventional in design uh so that we're not completely shocking people. But I think within that there is also room for us to introduce novel ideas uh and to make something that's that's perhaps a little bit different, something that stands out. Um also in in designing the user interface we need to consider practicalities. Uh the first of these is is technological ye uh what can we do with the current state of technology as it is. The second is is economic, uh we need to find a balance between features and price. So as you mentioned things like voice recognition would would add to the price uh but it would also im Christa Upchurch: Hmm. Betsey Deroche: improve the design of the product. So I had a look on the on the web uh to see if I could find a few examples of existing television remote controls. In analysing these we can consider what what things what's good about them, uh what things do they get right, what's bad about them, what's wrong with 'em, um how we can improve on the designs that that that I found and what can we do to make our product stand out from from the large majority of remote controls. Here's two examples uh probably at the extreme ends of the spectrum. Um on the left here we've got uh an engineering-based design for a remote control, so it's one that's got lots of buttons, it's it's fully featured, everything you might possibly want to do is there, you know, it's got forward, backwards, up, down, channel numbers, volume, uh freeze frame. Yeah, it's it's fully featured and it might take a while to get to learn to use it, but once you've learned it you can you can do whatever you want with your T_V_. The one on the right is a lot more basic. It's just got the essential functions of the T_V_ changing the channel, play, stop, volume. It would be a lot quicker to learn to use it, but again th it's it's swings and roundabouts. There are disadvantages, you can't use it say to to freeze the television picture. Uh there's a lot of features that are missing from that remote control. So we've got to to find our find a way of striking a balance between the two. Um as I said before, remote controls are subjective, different people want want different things. Um personally wa what I want from a remote control is a device that's simple, it it's easy to use, uh it's got big buttons for doing the things I do most often, changing the volume, changing the channel. It it does everything that I need it to uh, as I said before, I'm quite lazy, I don't wanna walk across the room just to adjust my television. I also want something that that looks cool, um and that that feels good, that's ergonomically designed. Christa Upchurch: Mm 'kay. Thank you very much. That was very useful. It's funny to see the drastic difference between those two remotes. Linda Rizo: Hmm. Christa Upchurch: Um. And neither of them were very pretty, you know? Aracely Sansone: No. Linda Rizo: Yeah. I think that could be our selling point. Christa Upchurch: Mm. Aracely Sansone: A fashion fashion remote. Betsey Deroche: I Linda Rizo: Right. Betsey Deroche: think there's there's certainly a market for technology that looks cool. Christa Upchurch: Mm. Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: And I think that's that's why companies like Apple've 've 've Linda Rizo: Hmm. Betsey Deroche: made Aracely Sansone: Yeah. Betsey Deroche: a lot of progress. Linda Rizo: Right, I really can't see what I'm doing, so does anyone have a Christa Upchurch: You there it is. Linda Rizo: Ah-ha, look at that, showing up already. Christa Upchurch: Lovely. Aracely Sansone: So wait, did it let you go on the Internet or was that just what it let you see? Betsey Deroche: Uh that was just on the d on Aracely Sansone: Okay. Betsey Deroche: the company web site, yeah. Aracely Sansone: 'Cause I was like Christa Upchurch: Hmm. Linda Rizo: Yeah Aracely Sansone: googling and then I'm like wait it won't let Aracely Sansone google. Linda Rizo: Alright um No, how do I play again? Christa Upchurch: Um the it's right above Draw. There are three thingy if it's way at the bottom. Linda Rizo: Ah. Christa Upchurch: Under three icons and it's the one that looks like a desk. Yeah, that one. There are Linda Rizo: Okay. Christa Upchurch: Y_s. Linda Rizo: So this is our working design presentation. Um I had a bit of some issues with this, because I wasn't able to find everything I needed, but I guess that's we're still in early stages. Um so, yeah, this is this. Though th the thing about working design is the what we're trying to do as a working design is figure out how the aparata apparatus can fulfil its function. Um one of the examples that kept coming up for Aracely Sansone is that a coffee grinder. It works because it converts electrical energy to grinding the beans and then you put the bean through a filter and that filters out, and then you get coffee at the end that's nice and hot because of the combination of electrical energy and then the other things that are brought in to make it work. Don't know if I'm explaining that very well, but how do I get to the next s ah. So h the method as um working designers figure out what you need to make it fulfil this practical function, what what needs to be done and how do we convert all the elements to make that done. So wha the easiest thing to do is to break down all the points at which you need something to happen. So you make a schematic of the way that the the energy is converted tsh towards this practical function. And then I think the easiest thing to do is gonna be work on each task separately. So um Uh. Christa Upchurch: You just press yeah, just Linda Rizo: Uh. Christa Upchurch: click. That'll be fine. Linda Rizo: So the findings that I got uh very just very briefly is that you have a choice of the way that the information is projected to the receiver and in my opinion infra-red is the best way to do that 'cause you don't need a sight line. So that's one thing we're gonna work on. Um the user interface is critical here, because a lot of the things that happen in a remote control happen through the chip that controls that converts the electrical energy into data, which then goes through the infra-red, so the the chip that uh I think Ian is designing, is gonna be crucial. And really it all comes down to the to the user, because they're the one that's controlling most of the working design. So the components that we find here are the energy source, you know the battery or whatever that's gonna m make it work, then the chip, which converts the data, the user that's controlling the chip, and the infra-red bulb that's gonna let us move the data to the receiver. So you have four main components and they are designed sort of like this. You have your energy source right there which then um brings uh energy or information to the chip, which is also controlled by the users. You have energy going to the user who's controlling the chip ooh 's not what I wanted to do uh uh. Christa Upchurch: Um yeah use that thing you can go back, previous. Linda Rizo: Previous. Sorry about that, guys. Christa Upchurch: Pardon. Linda Rizo: Oh. Christa Upchurch: Oh, Linda Rizo: No, no, Christa Upchurch: well. Linda Rizo: no, no, no. Christa Upchurch: Okay. Linda Rizo: Okay, let's just get back to my schematic here. Christa Upchurch: Ye Double click on it. With the right with the left Linda Rizo: W Christa Upchurch: hand one. Linda Rizo: yeah, yeah. I think it's frozen. Here. Don't show Aracely Sansone that tip again. Christa Upchurch: There we Linda Rizo: There we are. Christa Upchurch: are. Linda Rizo: Sorry about this, guys. I'm kind of pathetic with things like this. Um alright. So you have your energy source, your user interface who's controlling the chip, the chip also uses the energy, and the chip through the use of the user interface is gonna control the switch which will work your infra-red bulb, which will then bring the data to the receiver. So hopefully that makes sense for everyone in my kind of garbled way. This Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Linda Rizo: is the the parts of the working design that need to be figured out. And personal preferences, besides the fact that I can't spell, we need a long-lasting energy source, people don't wanna be changing it a lot. We need a chip that works well with the user interface, that isn't too complicated. We need a straightforward interface, like Ian was saying, simple, not overwhelming it with information and we need a reliable and clear infra-red signal, so that you're not waving your remote around and Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Linda Rizo: having to get frustrated and go do it by hands. So that's pretty much it for the working design. Christa Upchurch: Excellent. Christa Upchurch: So, um. Linda Rizo: Rose, do you think you can give Aracely Sansone a hand with this? Christa Upchurch: Yes, absolutely. Christa Upchurch: Ah I can never tell which way to turn these things. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: Lefty loosey, righty tighty, right? Linda Rizo: Yeah. Betsey Deroche: What's up? Lefty Christa Upchurch: Lefty loosey, Betsey Deroche: loosey. Christa Upchurch: righty tighty. Betsey Deroche: Uh. Never heard that before, that's good. Christa Upchurch: Oh yes. Betsey Deroche: I'll think of that every time now. Linda Rizo: It's Aracely Sansone: Yeah, Linda Rizo: gonna Aracely Sansone: that's Linda Rizo: stick Aracely Sansone: a good Linda Rizo: in your Aracely Sansone: one it'll Linda Rizo: head. Aracely Sansone: stick with you. Christa Upchurch: Mm 'kay. Christa Upchurch: Um I have nothing on my screen. Just a sec. Linda Rizo: Mm. Christa Upchurch: Here we are. Linda Rizo: Ooh, no signal. Christa Upchurch: Okay, yeah, it's fine. Okay, requirements. We have a couple new requirements that I was just e-mailed right before the meeting and Linda Rizo: Okay. Christa Upchurch: that we have to keep in in um in mind as we're creating this. We didn't bring it up yet, or at all in the meetings so far, but we're not gonna work with teletext because um well it that's been taken over by the internet, so we're not gonna worry about um we're not gonna worry about that. Aracely Sansone: What's teletext? Christa Upchurch: Um. Linda Rizo: Uh, it's a British thing. Aracely Sansone: Oh. Betsey Deroche: You don't Aracely Sansone: Oh, Betsey Deroche: have Aracely Sansone: so Betsey Deroche: it in the States? Linda Rizo: No. Christa Upchurch: It no. W d Betsey Deroche: Oh, Christa Upchurch: could Betsey Deroche: I didn't Christa Upchurch: would Betsey Deroche: realise. Christa Upchurch: you care to explain it? Betsey Deroche: Um yeah, it's like a Um you have like you have uh numbers on your remote control, Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: uh y and you type in the page number you want, so like you type a hundred on your remote control and this this kind of index appears on the television screen with just some some text and some very blocky looking graphics on it. And you just type numbers to go to different pages and it gives you information, mostly rather boring Linda Rizo: S Betsey Deroche: stuff like what's on T_V_ next and share prices and that kind of thing. Linda Rizo: Lottery numbers and sport scores. Betsey Deroche: Yep, news headlines. Linda Rizo: But if you ever see the T_V_ saying like go to page one sixty on Ceefax now, that's what they're talking about. Christa Upchurch: How? Aracely Sansone: Oh. Betsey Deroche: It's earl it's pretty old technology. It's like Christa Upchurch: Okay. Betsey Deroche: nineteen eighties. Aracely Sansone: That explains a lot. Linda Rizo: I have no idea why we don't have it, but Aracely Sansone: That's good. Christa Upchurch: Interesting. Okay um, well, we're not gonna the management has decided we're not gonna work with that. Um Okay um and we're also gonna w like your question earlier um whether this is going to be t for television, video, or etcetera. Just for television. That's Betsey Deroche: Right. Christa Upchurch: what we're focused on. Um otherwise becomes to complex, we wanna get this out um very quickly. We only have a a short amount of time. Linda Rizo: 'Kay. Christa Upchurch: Um and finally there's more marketing, I think, um, our corporate image has to be recognisable. So while we're gonna make it Linda Rizo: Mm. Christa Upchurch: look pretty we need to use our colour and our slogan i in the new design. Betsey Deroche: So what's our corporate image like? It's It's kind of yellow colour with uh Christa Upchurch: Looks Betsey Deroche: we Christa Upchurch: like, Betsey Deroche: put Christa Upchurch: yeah, Betsey Deroche: fashion Christa Upchurch: kind of Betsey Deroche: in Christa Upchurch: a yellow Betsey Deroche: electronics. Christa Upchurch: and black and we have that the emphasis on the R_s in Betsey Deroche: It's like Christa Upchurch: um Betsey Deroche: double R_. Christa Upchurch: mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: But it's, yeah, we put the um fashion in electronics. So we gotta keep that in that in mind. Linda Rizo: Okay, so we want something that looks good Christa Upchurch: Yep. Yep. Linda Rizo: and is yellow. Christa Upchurch: Yeah, or ha maybe some buttons could be yellow. Linda Rizo: Okay. Christa Upchurch: Like, we can we can play around with it a little bit. Um. Okay, we need to talk about our functions and our target group. We need to decide who our target group is. You um in your analysis of different market um of the marketing, Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Christa Upchurch: you identified that different groups wanted different things or had certain preferences, for example that um that older people didn't really care for um voice recognition, Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Christa Upchurch: but younger people did. Um and so? Linda Rizo: Well if we're gonna say that function um fashion we put the fashion in in electronics then you automatically, I think, a sort of younger group that that's who's gonna be attracted to this. Aracely Sansone: Yes, I do think, who's gonna have the money to buy that also, Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: that one? Christa Upchurch: It's gonna be twenty five Euro remember, so um it has to be avai marketable to um whomever it is. Linda Rizo: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: Is it is it something that's gonna be sold separately from the television or is it something that comes w with a television? 'Cause that would affect the way that we market it. Christa Upchurch: Well at least right now what we're doing is um deciding on just the remote itself, so it Betsey Deroche: Right. Christa Upchurch: will probably be sold separately, Betsey Deroche: Right, okay. Christa Upchurch: twenty five Euro by itself. Aracely Sansone: The only break-down that I was given in terms of age was the voice activation and basically there's a big jump, after thirty five people don't really care if it has voice, so it's like basically fifteen to thirty five that Linda Rizo: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: think that that's a good idea. I'm gonna be given any other numbers broken down in terms of age later, but if that's sort of the only quality that we have that is divided into age then we would wanna stick between the fifteen and thirty five range. Linda Rizo: Yeah, that's probably uh a population w quite a little bit of disposable income for use on technology anyway, so Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Linda Rizo: that might be a fairly good target group for us. Christa Upchurch: Now, those are that's all specific for speech recognition. Are we gonna use that as one of our functions? Betsey Deroche: Um. Linda Rizo: Mm. Betsey Deroche: I I would say no, because it's gonna add too much to the price. Especially if we are marketing it as a separate Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: product, people are gonna be paying uh, well, uh we've got a price limit Christa Upchurch: Mm. Betsey Deroche: of was it twelve twelve and a half Euros for Linda Rizo: To produce it, Christa Upchurch: To Linda Rizo: yeah. Christa Upchurch: produce Betsey Deroche: to produce Christa Upchurch: it, yes. Betsey Deroche: it? And I wonder if we can get voice recognition into that Christa Upchurch: Mm. Betsey Deroche: twelve and a half Euros without having to make too many other compromises. Aracely Sansone: But what else are we gonna put, I mean not that I'm really gung-ho about it, I don't know what else you can put in a remote to make it technologically advanced though. So like other than just making Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: it look good, Linda Rizo: Hmm. Aracely Sansone: how is it I mean it can look really great and still have the same up-n-down Linda Rizo: But Aracely Sansone: buttons and why's anyone Linda Rizo: right. Aracely Sansone: gonna buy a new remote? Linda Rizo: Well but why are we why are we aiming for a technological advancement? Everything we're talking about is ease of use and simple and that doesn't necessarily mean Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Linda Rizo: more technology, in Christa Upchurch: That's Linda Rizo: fact Christa Upchurch: a good Linda Rizo: it Christa Upchurch: thing Linda Rizo: could Christa Upchurch: to Linda Rizo: use Christa Upchurch: keep in mind. Linda Rizo: it could mean, not. If they might be overwhelmed with with remotes that have too many buttons and too much technology. Aracely Sansone: If someone's looking to buy a new remote, don't they want like an upgrade? I dunno. Christa Upchurch: Upgrade? Well, we can look for we can look at upgrade or we can look at um user-friendly. Linda Rizo: Yeah, simplification. Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: Simplification, Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Linda Rizo: They could have a crap Christa Upchurch: so Linda Rizo: remote that came with their T_V_ that's just impossible to use, or maybe it broke, or maybe Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Linda Rizo: they're just missing it. Christa Upchurch: Uh-huh, mm. And we also need to talk about if we're only gonna have the very simple ones or also have the other ones just separate somehow or Linda Rizo: Hmm. Aracely Sansone: Can you like Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: I mean this may be too complicated, but, I wish I had something to explain it, like if it was just a simple, either this way or this way, that had like the main buttons and then you could like pull something out, kind of and like you got the rest Linda Rizo: Ooh. Aracely Sansone: the buttons, but the rest of them like went in. Betsey Deroche: The Aracely Sansone: Do you know what I'm saying? Betsey Deroche: remote There Christa Upchurch: Kind Betsey Deroche: are Christa Upchurch: of Betsey Deroche: remote Christa Upchurch: pull out Betsey Deroche: controls Christa Upchurch: of the side. Betsey Deroche: like that, yeah. Like some T_V_s they have a sort of uh a sliding screen on the remote control of it Christa Upchurch: Mm. Betsey Deroche: that hides all the complicated buttons. Linda Rizo: Ooh. Betsey Deroche: So if you wanna do something complicated like programme your television or re-tune it, then you you open up this little hatch or or slide the Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: screen down and there's Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: all the all the special buttons. Aracely Sansone: 'Cause then 's like people who don't wanna ever look at them, never even have to see them Linda Rizo: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: and Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: if you like Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: get the instruction manual that comes with it and you just don't even read it then you'll never even know that those things can pull out. Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: And you're a happy person and everyone else doesn't have to have like two remotes, one that has the easy ones and one that has Linda Rizo: Yeah, Aracely Sansone: more complicated Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: ones, Linda Rizo: that's a good Aracely Sansone: but Linda Rizo: idea. Aracely Sansone: 's all still Betsey Deroche: I think Aracely Sansone: in Betsey Deroche: that's Aracely Sansone: one. Betsey Deroche: a good idea, yeah. Linda Rizo: Mm. Christa Upchurch: Um we have to be careful that that that doesn't impede um the chip transmitting information, Aracely Sansone: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: but Linda Rizo: Good Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: um Linda Rizo: point. Christa Upchurch: that's gonna be mostly technological thing. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: Um. Okay um, so what are we emphasising? I what in this Betsey Deroche: Si Christa Upchurch: project? Betsey Deroche: simplicity and fashion. Aracely Sansone: I think simplicity, Christa Upchurch: Simplicity Linda Rizo: Yeah Christa Upchurch: and fashion. Aracely Sansone: fashion. Linda Rizo: mm. Christa Upchurch: Okay, those are very good goals, I think, um that we have to keep in mind in with everything we do. Simplicity and fashion and, yeah, or usability speci however you wanna say that, which includes um an emphasis on making the infra-red very functional, Aracely Sansone: Mm-hmm. Christa Upchurch: so that you don't Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: have to travel around a lot. Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: What can Christa Upchurch: Um. Aracely Sansone: you do to like make the infra-red more functional, like why would it not be? I'm just wondering. Christa Upchurch: I think it's a lot to do with battery, Aracely Sansone: Okay. Christa Upchurch: but that's just my Linda Rizo: The battery and that I think that the chip takes the data and presents it well, without sort of scattering. Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: So 's just the quality of the chip. Linda Rizo: Yeah. I think so. Aracely Sansone: Okay. Linda Rizo: The quality uh quality of all the components really, I mean, we can't really do anything shoddy work, 'cause it's Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Linda Rizo: gonna be visible down the line. Christa Upchurch: So our target group, we're saying, fifteen to thirty five? Aracely Sansone: Well, I dunno how useful that number is if we're not doing Christa Upchurch: S voice recognition, Aracely Sansone: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: which I kind of I kind of feel like voice recognition is not necessary in a remote control, Aracely Sansone: Yeah. I don't. Christa Upchurch: like it might be necessary for a T_V_ but not for the remote Betsey Deroche: It's, Christa Upchurch: c, you Betsey Deroche: yeah, Christa Upchurch: know. Betsey Deroche: it's Linda Rizo: Mm-mm. Betsey Deroche: pretty Christa Upchurch: Seems Betsey Deroche: it's pretty Christa Upchurch: a little bit Betsey Deroche: high-tech. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it might be too expensive. Aracely Sansone: And if the whole idea is you're using a remote then why would you have voice, like you know what Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: I mean and then it's like you wouldn't need a remote you'd just talk to your T_V_. Christa Upchurch: Yeah. Betsey Deroche: It's for, Linda Rizo: Ooh. Betsey Deroche: like, the ultimately lazy people, who can't even be bothered to pick up the remote. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: Mm yeah. Maybe Linda Rizo: I Aracely Sansone: I mean if I get m more numbers, I'll e-mail you before the next meeting in terms of ages. But this doesn't divide up anything and there was only a hundred subjects also, Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Linda Rizo: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: which isn't, I mean, really isn't that representative, especially if it's a hundred subjects that th they then can subdivide into age groups that means there's very few in each age group, so Linda Rizo: Yeah, but I th I think regardless we're we're aiming for the under sixty five or something. Christa Upchurch: Under sixty five, Betsey Deroche: Yep. Christa Upchurch: okay, that's a good start. Um. I'd say we're uh can we narrow it down to maybe um teenagers and families? 'Cause that would go Linda Rizo: Or Christa Upchurch: up Linda Rizo: like Christa Upchurch: to like fifty? Linda Rizo: single professionals or something. Aracely Sansone: Twenty Christa Upchurch: Okay, single Aracely Sansone: to like fifty five. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: I dunno. Christa Upchurch: It's it's hard to Linda Rizo: It's Christa Upchurch: narrow Linda Rizo: really hard Christa Upchurch: it down. Linda Rizo: to figure out right now. Betsey Deroche: I think the product appeals across a quite a broad range of ages. Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: I mean, we we said simplicity is is one of the features, so it's going to appeal to people, maybe people who have problems with technology, you know, people who get Christa Upchurch: Okay. Betsey Deroche: scared by having lots of buttons, and that might be older people, Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: but then we've also got fashion, which is something that definitely appeals Linda Rizo: Yeah. Betsey Deroche: to younger people. Aracely Sansone: Well maybe we don't have to defi define the target group by the demographic of age, maybe we Christa Upchurch: Right. Aracely Sansone: can define it by like the demographic of like h t how much money they have to spend Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: or something like that, Betsey Deroche: Yeah Aracely Sansone: like, Linda Rizo: That's Betsey Deroche: aim Linda Rizo: a Betsey Deroche: for Linda Rizo: good Aracely Sansone: well Linda Rizo: point. Betsey Deroche: a Aracely Sansone: obviously Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: it has to Betsey Deroche: an Aracely Sansone: be Betsey Deroche: income Aracely Sansone: someone who Betsey Deroche: group. Aracely Sansone: owns a television, Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: and like Linda Rizo: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: how recently have they bought their television like that sort of thing. Linda Rizo: Mm. Christa Upchurch: So maybe it's more useful to d d to define objectives like fashion and Linda Rizo: Yeah, Christa Upchurch: simplicity than Linda Rizo: t probably. Christa Upchurch: to find specific target group as far Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: as age is because, yeah, things so different will appeal to different people, but Okay. Um oh, there're a couple functions do we want something so that do we want some kind of thing to find it if it's lost? Linda Rizo: Mm. Aracely Sansone: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: Like a button on a T_V_ you can press and it'll ring or something, I don't know like or Aracely Sansone: H Christa Upchurch: beep? Aracely Sansone: I mean, like I said before, fifty per cent of of the fru f like frustration someone can have that was the biggest one and half the people said that happened and we all mentioned it before we Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: knew about it. Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Aracely Sansone: And if we're talking about making something easy that sort of goes along with it so it wouldn't be like a random thing to sort of add in. Linda Rizo: Mm. Aracely Sansone: It would be relevant to like the overall goal Christa Upchurch: Mm. Aracely Sansone: I think, Linda Rizo: Yeah, Aracely Sansone: so Linda Rizo: that'll probably be good. Christa Upchurch: Okay, we have to we have about four minutes left to define our functions. So let's do that quickly. Um so we want something to keep it from getting lost. Betsey Deroche: Yep. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: And we want um we want large buttons for the essential things. Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: Large, accessible buttons for the essentials. We want a possibility to um to get um a possibility to get the extra functions. Linda Rizo: Mm-hmm. Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Which are kind of hidden away in some way or well not hidden but they're uh they're not as prominent as the main features. Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: Hmm. Christa Upchurch: Um, yeah, hidden way. And we also want it to be fashionable, which I'm not sure if that's a function so much as a um yeah Aracely Sansone: on your coffee table, it's not like an eye sore, that kind Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Aracely Sansone: of thing. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Alright. Christa Upchurch: Okay, do it. Any other essential functions that we need? Battery? Do we need a Linda Rizo: Battery Christa Upchurch: long-life battery? Linda Rizo: battery use. Yeah, but Aracely Sansone: Yeah. Linda Rizo: I think that goes in with simplicity and ease of use really. Christa Upchurch: But Aracely Sansone: So Christa Upchurch: we might Aracely Sansone: you Christa Upchurch: as well. Aracely Sansone: never have to change the battery. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Betsey Deroche: We should maybe investigate whether it needs a battery at all. I suspect the remote control does need a battery, but Christa Upchurch: Yeah, Linda Rizo: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: I would imagine. Betsey Deroche: I dunno if you can Christa Upchurch: Just 'cause it is an electronic device, the Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Linda Rizo: Mm. It I think it does. I don't I don't think of a way you can operate a chip and convert that much data without without Betsey Deroche: Yeah, Linda Rizo: one. Betsey Deroche: without the energy, Linda Rizo: But you Betsey Deroche: yeah. Linda Rizo: could maybe have it in a little charging station like a mobile phone, or like a little cradle for your iPod. Betsey Deroche: Yeah, that's Linda Rizo: You Betsey Deroche: that's Linda Rizo: could Betsey Deroche: possible. Linda Rizo: we could maybe Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Linda Rizo: do that instead. So you don't Christa Upchurch: Charging. Linda Rizo: ha you got like a rechargeable battery. Betsey Deroche: Yeah. Linda Rizo: I dunno, that might contribute to less people losing it too if Christa Upchurch: Mm-hmm. Linda Rizo: it it stays in one place. Aracely Sansone: Mm. Christa Upchurch: We have to think about um space in living-rooms, too, like Linda Rizo: Mm. Christa Upchurch: 'cause they're I mean, would you put it on top of the T_V_? I don't know, just think okay, that's that's a good idea, we'll keep it. Linda Rizo: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: Think it's Linda Rizo: That's just off the top of my head. Christa Upchurch: And maybe fun. Okay. Um 'kay we're gonna conclude now, has everyone said their functions and Betsey Deroche: Yep. Christa Upchurch: 'kay. Um after the meeting we're gonna each complete a sks um a questionnaire and a summaries summary. I don't know what summarisation. Um and then we'll have our lunch break. After that we have thirty minutes of individual work. Um I'll make sure to put up um the minutes and the project documentation and including these PowerPoint slides. If everyone could do that as well, that'd be great. Um you each have individual actions, I_ um I_D_ Industrial Design you've your components concept, User Interface, the user interface concept, market trend wa watching. And as as per last time you'll get specific incrat instructions from your personal coach e-mailed to you. And hopefully, I hope, next time you'll be able to access more of the web site that they they seem to tell you that you could. Linda Rizo: Yeah, Christa Upchurch: It's kinda Linda Rizo: who knows. Christa Upchurch: frustrating, but um Be sure to note any frustrations or any um issues that come up in your um in your um summary. Linda Rizo: Okay Christa Upchurch: Mm 'kay? Linda Rizo: Sounds good. Christa Upchurch: Great seeing y'all. Aracely Sansone: It's good. Did you um were you able to like put yours in the group folder? Linda Rizo: Yes, I Aracely Sansone: Okay. Linda Rizo: just did that. Hopefully it is there for people. Aracely Sansone: Yep. Linda Rizo: Yeah? Christa Upchurch: Looks like there are um looks like there's a second one kind of of mine Linda Rizo: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: that's that I didn't do, it's from like an earlier project, I think so Linda Rizo: Okay. Christa Upchurch: um Aracely Sansone: Where is that? Yours is Christa Upchurch: Under the shared folder, I don't know it might not Linda Rizo: Technical. Christa Upchurch: even be under yours Linda Rizo: So Christa Upchurch: as well. Linda Rizo: in there we Christa Upchurch: Projects. Linda Rizo: have technical functions presentation, working design presentation and the functional requirements. At least that's Aracely Sansone: I Linda Rizo: what I Aracely Sansone: only Linda Rizo: have Aracely Sansone: have Linda Rizo: in. Aracely Sansone: three, I just have like our three. Linda Rizo: Yeah, Aracely Sansone: Yeah. Linda Rizo: that's what I have as well, R Christa Upchurch: Okay. Linda Rizo: Rose So. Christa Upchurch: You don't have mine? Aracely Sansone: No, but that's 'cause I think yours is in the e-mail separate, like it's not on the server. Christa Upchurch: S Linda Rizo: Yeah. Christa Upchurch: Mm. Aracely Sansone: But if I open it and then save it, probably will be there. Oh wait, never mind you can't save it to the Christa Upchurch: Okay. Well I'll figure that out in the meantime. Linda Rizo: Okay. Aracely Sansone: Okay. Christa Upchurch: Okay.

Christa Upchurch opened the meeting and stated the agenda. Aracely Sansone discussed user preferences in terms of the appearance and use of remotes, finding that users wanted fancier looking remotes, disliked losing their remotes, wanted remotes with fewer buttons, frequently use the channel changing and volume buttons, and that younger users wanted speech recognition. Betsey Deroche described how a remote works and how to go about designing one. He presented two remotes currently on the market and the advantages and disadvantages to each design. Linda Rizo described the interior workings of a remote. Christa Upchurch briefed the team on some new requirements and led them in a discussion about their target group, the option to include speech recognition, how to find a remote when lost, and batteries.

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Florence Miller: Right w welcome to the the first meeting of uh Real Reaction's uh um development meetings for our our new television remote control. Uh this follows our very successful entry into the the consumer market over the last year or so um which we want to to build on, taking advantage of the uh the the latest developments in in technology and the uh the latest uh uh feelings in in consumer design and and demand and uh we want to make this the the very best product th that's possible for everybody, uh one that everybody wants, uh at a good price for the consumer and at a good price for the company. Uh and to that end we need all to work together uh to do that. Um and uh b in no particular order because ev everybody is uh just Eunice Jennings: Mm. Florence Miller: as vital to this project um I'll just go round th the table, Andrew, marketing, um m Kendra with the uh um designing the the the User Interface uh uh and Kate with the the industrial design. Um. What's uh the the th th project is is here to do, is is to to get this this project up and moving, ev everybody is is free to uh say wh whatever they want, uh everybody has a contribution to make and uh everybody feel free to interrupt Eunice Jennings at any time to to say what you want to say. Um in in terms of the immediate meeting the uh um everybody knows everybody else, everybody's worked for the the company for a while, if if an anybody feels that they need to say more about themselves please do, if if if anybody wants to b briefly give their their background so that everybody's quite clear what everybody uh uh everybody's experience is please do so. Uh in fact I'd I'd I'd welcome anybody to uh say something briefly about themselves, in fact we will do that by by going round the table quickly and and saying what what contribution you you're looking to make. So we'll start with Andrew. Eunice Jennings: Oh my name's Andrew I'm a I'm Market Research person for this uh for this meeting and uh project for this new remote control and uh yeah I'll be uh presenting information statistics on what people want to want to uh get from this new design, what people want to like and from a fashion point of view and the practicality point of view. Florence Miller: Right Kendra. Frances Mcqueen: I'm Kendra and I'm Us User Interface and um I haven't had a whole lot of experience in this kind of thing before but I'm m so I'll be working on the design. Florence Miller: Right at least means you haven't got any preconceived ideas so. Frances Mcqueen: Right. Yep, I'm just open to being creative. Florence Miller: Yep, good. Teresa Garcia: Uh I'm Katie, I'm Teresa Garcia I'll just be I guess presenting about the the inter workings of our little remote control and uh yeah. Florence Miller: Okay, very very quickly, um this I don't want to make this meeting too structured because the the whole idea is that it's a um you know a think tank. Everybody says what they what they want to say, uh and we don't want to be constrained by uh kind of convention or uh uh slides on screens or or anything else um but um briefly um th th this is what we want to do. The the remote control needs to be original, there has to be something about it that uh other remote controls don't have so that as soon as people see it they think um yes that's different, uh I want one, um and that goes along with being trendy, uh uh you know the I want it uh scenario. User-friendly as as we all know, remote controls can be uh uh very user-unfriendly so we want to make ours one that people can pick up and think oh yes that's it's obvious how that works, uh and they also want to look at the price and think oh yeah that's something that I may not need another remote control but uh it's such a nice one I'm gonna have one. And last but not least, or indeed first of all, it it must make the company money, and we make the company money by producing what the consumer wants. The uh the further work to be done is i the um the functional design, uh what it uh what it must actually do, the uh conceptual design, uh how we actually present that to the consumer and th the the detailed design i is uh how we get that into production. Uh now th the main design tool that we have available to us at the moment is is the white board and uh uh let us very quickly do what i what it says in the in the in the prompt slide here, um In fact I suggest to avoid everybody untangling themselves from the uh the the wires, that we don't do that, um So I I everybody knows what whiteboard is so we'll um uh we'll do a virtual drawing on the on on the whiteboard of of your your own uh uh favourite animal, but le let's go round the table, your favourite animal. Eunice Jennings: Um, badger. Florence Miller: Mm and why? Eunice Jennings: Uh it's it's got nice contrast with Florence Miller: Uh-huh. Eunice Jennings: black and white and uh and Florence Miller: Oh Eunice Jennings: they're, Florence Miller: right uh my Eunice Jennings: the Florence Miller: my wife says my beard looks like a badger's arse 'cause of the the white streaks in it. Kendra. Frances Mcqueen: Um probably a duck I just I li I like the way they look and they're just nice animals and I like how they can fly or swim or walk around Florence Miller: Uh-huh. Frances Mcqueen: or whatever. Florence Miller: Right, okay. Teresa Garcia: Uh 's horses, no particular reason why. Florence Miller: Uh-huh, fair enough yeah. I'm not sure that I've got any favourite animal to be quite honest, I think homo sapien because of their their uh overall ability to uh uh Eunice Jennings: Make mobile phones and T_V_ remotes Florence Miller: Sorry? Eunice Jennings: to make T_V_ remotes. Florence Miller: Indeed absolutely yes, tha that's um Okay and uh w we need to keep in mind here that the uh we want to sell this for for twenty five Euro um, we want to m make an overall profit for the the company of fifty million Euros so we're we're looking at selling a lot of these um ag across the the entire planet and and we're looking at a gross profit of fifty percent. It needs to cost twelve Euros fifty to make Um. so we're not only looking at a a very trendy original product, we're looking at making it at a very good price. Um, okay, um would anybody like t like to to start by giving their o um sort of quick views of of current remote controls. Frances Mcqueen: Well to use with all the different buttons and uh it's handiest when you have one that works both the D_V_D_ player or whatever and the T_V_ as well. Um, but that it's easy to if you can switch back and forth instead of Florence Miller: No. Frances Mcqueen: having to press a bunch of different buttons and so I think it's is best when they're clearly labelled and you can see which buttons you're supposed to use, you know. Florence Miller: Any any thoughts about buttons or any oth other way of approaching the p the uh the problem? Or anybody else, strong feelings about remote controls? Are there you know, bad ones they've used or good ones they've used or ones Teresa Garcia: Um Florence Miller: that they've lost and never found again? Teresa Garcia: I think it's important that you should be able to when you when you press the buttons it'll actually pick up the signals from kind of anywhere and you shouldn't have to like contort yourself Eunice Jennings: Yeah. Teresa Garcia: the signal. Frances Mcqueen: Yeah. Eunice Jennings: Think a lot of the time, remotes that come with T_V_ players and T_V_s and D_V_ Teresa Garcia: Mm. Eunice Jennings: players, like they aren't like an area that's put a lot of effort into, they're very boring, very plain. Like it's Teresa Garcia: Mm. Eunice Jennings: very a very like um making a a stylish remote control would be a very like Easily put us one step ahead of the current competition. Florence Miller: Um what so wh what's in in what particular style features are you thinking about? Eunice Jennings: Um. Something that looks looks doesn't look like remote control. So if you want, something that looks like uh something that makes you think oh what's this? Like this pen doesn't really look like a pen, but it makes Florence Miller: Uh-huh. Eunice Jennings: you think oh. So, sorry that's a bit vague. Florence Miller: Yeah d no I mean do you think there's a risk if it doesn't look like remote control, people won't see it as a remote control um and uh Eunice Jennings: Uh I suppose suppose that's up to the marketing to to make make people aware of the product. Florence Miller: Uh-huh. Any other thoughts about um th the physical appearance of a of remote controls? Frances Mcqueen: I think something that's comfortable to hold because sometimes you get the remote controls that are just those Teresa Garcia: Mm. Frances Mcqueen: big, rectangular Eunice Jennings: Mm. Frances Mcqueen: things and uh they're kind of awkward to hold onto, so something that's more comfortable that fits in a person's hand better. Florence Miller: I mean th the thing that i immediately comes to mind is computer mouses which Teresa Garcia: Mm. Florence Miller: um Frances Mcqueen: Yeah. Eunice Jennings: Yeah. Florence Miller: I mean y you get all sorts of shapes Teresa Garcia: Mm. Florence Miller: in the shops and s you know some quite fancy ones Frances Mcqueen: Yeah. Florence Miller: um than the some from personal experience which look nice but aren't particularly comfortable. Frances Mcqueen: Yeah. Florence Miller: Um any thoughts about buttons or flat screens or uh uh Eunice Jennings: Well from the mouse idea you could, remote is a piece of plastic with the big rubber buttons sticking out of it which you press, whereas if you want could all be flat and the buttons are very kind of almost subtle that instead of being raised out of the device uh you push into device you see, like a mouse button. Florence Miller: Yes, I mean the only thing is if if you're watching television in a in a a darkened room Teresa Garcia: Mm. Eunice Jennings: I suppose. Florence Miller: um you need to be able to uh fi Eunice Jennings: Easily, yeah Florence Miller: find Eunice Jennings: yeah. Florence Miller: the button buttons easily. Frances Mcqueen: But maybe they could be concave instead of sticking up to have them be kind of down so you could feel them Eunice Jennings: Mm. Teresa Garcia: Mm. Frances Mcqueen: better. Florence Miller: Yeah, that's uh must admit I don't think I've ever seen one with concave buttons, that's uh certainly be different. Um do we need it to uh I can't think of any re remote controls that I know of that actually light up at all. Do we Frances Mcqueen: Oh yeah. Teresa Garcia: Mm that Florence Miller: do Teresa Garcia: would Florence Miller: we Teresa Garcia: be Florence Miller: want Teresa Garcia: good. Florence Miller: uh Frances Mcqueen: Like a like a mobile phone? Florence Miller: Yeah. Teresa Garcia: Mm. Frances Mcqueen: Yeah. Eunice Jennings: Mm, Teresa Garcia: Mm. Eunice Jennings: yeah that would be good. Florence Miller: Okay. So, Andrew have you had any thoughts yet about how we might market something which there are already millions out there and that we want to uh uh uh t take over the entire um the planet with? Eunice Jennings: Mm-hmm, um especially if we try to sell, what two million of them. Oh sorry, four million of 'em, but uh I think if w if we market it as as not as not well this you c you could either market it as the point of view we could have the two we could have parallel marketing s schemes where you've got one where it appeals to people that want to have the new device that looks cool, Teresa Garcia: Mm. Eunice Jennings: is fashionable and like you just it's it's like uh it's one that rather than ra I wan I want rather than a kind of a need relationship Florence Miller: Mm-hmm. Eunice Jennings: with the device, but that might considering the act what the device is for and the nature of some people might not like respond to having a device that they just looks nice, therefore they want it so make it practical at the same time. I think it's this is gonna have to appeal to people that want device that can enhance their living room uh Florence Miller: Mm-hmm. Eunice Jennings: but also a device that uh is practically sound. Florence Miller: Mm-hmm. Eunice Jennings: So um, I dunno we'll have to decide which which angle we're gonna go to or both. Florence Miller: Okay, Eunice Jennings: If you. Florence Miller: yeah, yeah, well I d I think an any uh any facets that we identify w we aim need to aim for for all of. Eunice Jennings: Mm. Florence Miller: Um okay well first thoughts on um the the industrial design side. Teresa Garcia: Oh I think it's it's remote controls are kind of a unique object 'cause it's you depend on them so much, but you don't i i it's you sort of just assume they're always gonna work, you don't think of them as a comp like a computer can break down and you're kinda like oh well fair enough there's all these complex things going on, it's gonna something's gonna get messed up eventually. They they just need to be very very dependable because people sort of take them for granted and then if your remote control breaks it's God forbid you actually get up and manually change the channel Florence Miller: Indeed. Teresa Garcia: it just it needs to be very effective, very always dependable. Uh I don't think we should make it too small I 'cause I think it needs to it can't be too big like you were saying big an and huge and um awkward, but also if you make it too small kinda like you know how mobile phones are getting smaller and smaller um, it's just gonna end up under a couch cushion somewhere Florence Miller: Yeah. Teresa Garcia: and um yeah. But so yes dependable, and have a good medium range size. Florence Miller: Okay, and um colours, materials? Kendra, anyone? Frances Mcqueen: Well, most I think most of the remote controls now are either just black or grey, so maybe we should go with something different or be able to I was just thinking of um what they're doing with mobile phones now how you can get the different um what are they called? Like the face-plates Florence Miller: Yeah. Teresa Garcia: Mm, Frances Mcqueen: that you change Teresa Garcia: mm-hmm. Frances Mcqueen: so we could have maybe I don't know if it would be feasible to do something with that, where you can change the face-plates or have kind of a Florence Miller: Uh-huh. Frances Mcqueen: variety so people can get different different things. Have it kind of look how they want to, different colours, things like that, Florence Miller: Right. Frances Mcqueen: probably just plastic because that's always the lightest. Florence Miller: Yeah. Okay that's uh Again I don't think that's ever been done before, it's uh Teresa Garcia: Mm-hmm. Florence Miller: the sort of the sort of thing that would get people uh thinking yes that's something that I haven't got and uh might need so. Uh Andrew, any thoughts about uh how we might market interchangeable fronts on on the remote control? Eunice Jennings: Um, well we could either market it together by getting control in a set colour or with like you buy it with several uh like you ge you get the f uh the face-plates with it when you buy or as a separate thing, but uh maybe thinking of that, it's considering the nature of the device, maybe a second thing like a second campaign to market Teresa Garcia: Mm. Eunice Jennings: new facials for your to your might go a bit astray since Florence Miller: Yeah. Eunice Jennings: it is the kind of thing where y you generally get one and then forget about it. Unless Florence Miller: Yeah. Eunice Jennings: you were trying to Teresa Garcia: Well you could come Florence Miller: I Teresa Garcia: up Florence Miller: think Teresa Garcia: with like novelty ones, like they've done with the the mobile phones, you can get like different you know scenes from different movies and stuff Eunice Jennings: Mm. Teresa Garcia: on Frances Mcqueen: Yeah. Teresa Garcia: the remote control Eunice Jennings: Oh it's Teresa Garcia: and Eunice Jennings: that's Teresa Garcia: sorta Eunice Jennings: a that's a good idea. Teresa Garcia: stagger the release of them and get people like oh I want that cover on it now and Frances Mcqueen: Yeah. Teresa Garcia: that'll keep them Florence Miller: Mm-mm. Eunice Jennings: Mm. Teresa Garcia: spending money. Florence Miller: Right, Eunice Jennings: Yeah true. Florence Miller: okay I think we've got um a good idea now. We uh meeting is uh Needs to be k uh wrapped up fairly quickly. So uh um we've got thirty minutes to start looking at the um at the design in more detail. Um then we'll we will reconvene in in thirty minutes and try to get some of these ideas uh uh more formalised. Uh thank you very much indeed. Frances Mcqueen: Okay. Teresa Garcia: Thank you.

Florence Miller opens the meeting by welcoming everybody and saying they will be developing a new television remote control. Then each group member states his/her name and role in the group. Florence Miller states that the remote needs to be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The further work will be on the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. Since they all know what a whiteboard is, they do a virtual drawing by each stating their favorite animal. Florence Miller tells them the project budget. They proceed to discuss problems with current remotes as well as preferable styles and looks, such as using face-plates so the look is changable. Florence Miller closes the meeting.

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Rhonda Giordano: Right, so start of the first meeting Jacqueline Light: Mm-hmm. Rhonda Giordano: Uh. Right, so agenda of the first meeting. Where we uh We have twenty five minutes for this meeting. Thelma Wyant: Okay. Rhonda Giordano: We uh are to get acquainted. So does everyone want to say who they are? that seem Jacqueline Light: Yeah. Rhonda Giordano: sensible? Jacqueline Light: I'm Robin. I'm the Marketing. Jean Seawright: I'm Louisa. I'm Jean Seawright. Thelma Wyant: I'm Nick. I am the Designer Rhonda Giordano: And I'm Alastair and I'm the project leader. Alright okay, so tool training. Um. Project plan. So does anyone have any uh thoughts as to the tool training that uh is required? Thelma Wyant: Tool training. Jean Seawright: I'm not exactly sure what you mean by tool training. Rhonda Giordano: am I. Oh I see, so we shouldn't really be Rhonda Giordano: Oh right okay, so. So we have the project team, which is to um basically to come up with a new r remote control device. Uh we have uh the starting base was the original which has been in existence now for a period of time. And uh our idea is to uh to make the new remote control device uh more user friendly than the previous one, and to to be trendier, to be with it, and therefore to uh Thelma Wyant: Yeah. Rhonda Giordano: to get a bigger market share and bigger audience. So um method of doing this is uh split up as you can see into uh the functional design, the conceptional design, and the detailed design. So um in each of these uh phases we'll uh basically be handing over to yourselves, the Thelma Wyant: Yes. Rhonda Giordano: designers of this uh this device. And uh having uh meetings so that we can uh during the course of the day um come up with a better better inst implement than we had before. And therefore um have a successful uh conclusion to the day. Um and you'll be doing uh various designs uh throughout Jacqueline Light: Mm-hmm, Rhonda Giordano: the day Jacqueline Light: okay. Rhonda Giordano: to meet this end. So we've got tool training. Try out whiteboard. Uh. So we will um. Right so everyone's to uh supposedly uh draw their favourite animal over on the white board over there. I guess this is uh make sure the whiteboard works. So Thelma Wyant: Okay. Rhonda Giordano: uh I don't know who wishes to go first. Do Jean Seawright: I Rhonda Giordano: you wish Jean Seawright: don't Jacqueline Light: I dunno. Rhonda Giordano: to Jean Seawright: mind. Rhonda Giordano: go f Have a first bash at uh whatever. Jean Seawright: Um. Rhonda Giordano: Ah Jean Seawright: Let's Rhonda Giordano: uh. Jean Seawright: see. Good job I got pockets today. Jacqueline Light: Your microphone's Rhonda Giordano: But now you you Jacqueline Light: just Rhonda Giordano: uh you'll move out from the microphone and the camera. I Jean Seawright: Are we Rhonda Giordano: take Jean Seawright: supposed Rhonda Giordano: it that Jean Seawright: to do this right now, do you think, or? Rhonda Giordano: I would I would guess so. Or Jacqueline Light: Yeah. Thelma Wyant: You've lost Jacqueline Light: I don't Thelma Wyant: uh Jacqueline Light: know. Thelma Wyant: your microphone there. Jean Seawright: Oh. Right Rhonda Giordano: Technical problems. Jean Seawright: here we go. Rhonda Giordano: I mean you designers are meant to come up with these sort of things. Jean Seawright: Okay. I think that I would have to say that my favourite animal is the cat. Little smiley cat there. Um and this would be because they're very independent, compared to dogs maybe. Um and they can be very very affectionate. Some people don't think so but I know very affectionate cats. Um. Um and they can look after themselves. Rhonda Giordano: Next. Thelma Wyant: Okay, yeah. I'll Jean Seawright: Shall I rub Thelma Wyant: I'll Jean Seawright: that out, actually? Rhonda Giordano: I don't see as there's any need to. There's plenty of space. I mean whatever. Jacqueline Light: We can have have a whole menagerie. Rhonda Giordano: Exactly. Thelma Wyant: Shall I see if I can get across without just tangling everything. Okay. There's Rhonda Giordano: We've Thelma Wyant: one. Rhonda Giordano: had more time to prepare over this side, so we've all stuck our bits and pieces in our pockets. Thelma Wyant: Didn't think of that. 'Kay uh Rhonda Giordano: The three Thelma Wyant: pens Rhonda Giordano: pens Thelma Wyant: are Rhonda Giordano: are Thelma Wyant: over here. Rhonda Giordano: underneath. Thelma Wyant: I'll try the red pen. Okay. Um. I'm gonna go for the bear but I'll have a bash at it. Rhonda Giordano: You get marks Thelma Wyant: Uh. Rhonda Giordano: for artistic impression. Thelma Wyant: Ooh ooh I lost it there. I think I've just knocked the microphone. Um. Rhonda Giordano: So you're just doing the face. Thelma Wyant: We'll g then we'll go for a a s small small bear. Um and I like my animal that looks nothing like a bear because um I dunno maybe because there's so many cartoon characters made up after the bear like the jungle book characters and stuff like that. Great. Jacqueline Light: Right. Jacqueline Light: Hello. Um I'm gonna go for the dog, and I'm gonna draw one badly as well. Uh. Jacqueline Light: looks like it's going to be a dachshund or something. Jean Seawright: That's quite good. Jacqueline Light: Right. There's my dog. And they're always happy, so whenever whenever you're feeling sort of a bit a bit down or tired, they're always coming up and they're always um quite excited. So um you can always have a lot of fun with a dog. And they're also good for exercise as well. You can sorta get out and they they sorta never get tired. And and when they're tired they're quite cute as well, so. Okay, that's why I like dogs. Rhonda Giordano: Right, um. Well I've not actually had too many pets uh over my uh time 'cause to be honest with you uh I'm not too keen on them anyway. Not to worry. So what my daughters have got at the moment is they've got uh a few fish and so hopefully um won't prove too difficult to draw. Uh Rhonda Giordano: As you can see that my artist artistic work is useless as well. Anyway um. And uh one of the best uh things about fish is that they don't really take uh too much looking after because uh with most of the animals if you're going away on holiday or whatever, you've gotta spend money or get a friend or whatever to look after them for you. Whereas if you got fish, you just gotta put the food in a a a dripper feed which feeds them over the uh couple of weeks that you're away and uh change the water every couple of months, and buy in a few plants, so. Other than the fact that they keep dying, uh fish are uh are not are are are reasonable pets in that uh they're low maintenance. Jacqueline Light: Great. Rhonda Giordano: Right. Okay, uh if we're still all with us. Right okay, so. Work has been done on uh this uh project where by um twenty five Euros is uh the uh expected uh selling price. Jacqueline Light: Mm-hmm. Rhonda Giordano: That information has come from our marketing manager here. Jacqueline Light: Yeah. Rhonda Giordano: So we're looking to sell internationally, not just in Europe. We're looking at um having our production costs limited to uh twelve and an half Euro per unit. And therefore making a profit margin of uh well not actually a profit margin it's uh because obviously you're gonna have overheads and various other costs to uh take uh from uh from that to give you your profit margin per unit. And so depending what the uh the overhead uh costs are will determine uh how many units we're uh looking to sell or projecting to sell at this point in time. So um Experience with remote control, first ideas. New remote. So I guess we're looking at um having a discussion at this point in time to help uh you um folks design our our new Thelma Wyant: Yes. Rhonda Giordano: model as it were. So uh any any thoughts? Thelma Wyant: Um I with some remote controls the buttons were a little small so they're quite hard to press so maybe we make something with uh easy to press buttons. As that is the main function. Rhonda Giordano: Okay, so so basically we're looking for some um we're looking for a device that is um robust Thelma Wyant: Yes. Rhonda Giordano: and and therefore uh won't get damaged too easily. a device that is uh What was the other things you said there? Thelma Wyant: Um sort of easy to use so the Rhonda Giordano: Easy Thelma Wyant: buttons Rhonda Giordano: to use. Thelma Wyant: are accessible. Rhonda Giordano: Use. Thelma Wyant: is easy to use and see. Rhonda Giordano: And see. Thelma Wyant: Yes. Rhonda Giordano: Okay. Uh. Jean Seawright: Can I just check? Is this just a television remote? Because a lot of um systems are kind of T_V_ video combined now, or T_V_ D_V_D_ combined. And Rhonda Giordano: Mm-hmm. Jean Seawright: one of the most annoying things is having like five remotes in the house. So if you've got a combined system, it could be a combined remote. Jacqueline Light: Mm. Jean Seawright: Or is it just a television that we're supposed to be doing? Rhonda Giordano: Oh I w um basically I'll get back to you on that. But it seems to Jacqueline Light sensible, 'cause as you rightly said, there's nothing more annoying than having three or four devices littered about the uh Jacqueline Light: Yeah. Rhonda Giordano: about the room. And uh So a device for for all remotes. Jacqueline Light: I've Thelma Wyant: Sorry, you go. You Jacqueline Light: Okay. Thelma Wyant: go. Jacqueline Light: Yeah. Um one of the things um we found from the market research is that people often get confused by the number of buttons on them as well. 'Cause there's quite often lots and lots. And um sometimes uh they sort of remote controls defeat their own purpose because you're sat in the chair and the remote is somewhere else in the room. So whereas in the past you'd have to get up to change the channel, now you have to get up to sort of pick up the remote. So so I don't we need to sort of maybe think about how um we could maybe uh develop a remote control which moves around the room. Rhonda Giordano: Hmm. Jean Seawright: Comes to your whistle. Jacqueline Light: That's that's maybe something for the future when you can talk to your television, but Thelma Wyant: Yeah. Rhonda Giordano: But is it in a sense it's r um mutually exclusive. You can't have both Jacqueline Light: Yeah. Rhonda Giordano: the th the one device and then have few buttons on it to 'cause you want you want simplicity as well, you want any idiot to be able to use it. Jacqueline Light: Yeah. Rhonda Giordano: Whilst at the same time you want, as you rightly said, one remote for all. Jacqueline Light: Mm-hmm. Rhonda Giordano: And so these are probably mutually exclusive options Thelma Wyant: Yes. Rhonda Giordano: that Jacqueline Light: Mm-hmm. Rhonda Giordano: uh Hmm you could argue that experience of using devices and similar devices as people get more and more used to using remotes, therefore they're more with handling Thelma Wyant: Yeah. Rhonda Giordano: them, therefore you can make them more complicated as time goes on. Thelma Wyant: Maybe we could um have better instructions with the remote. Or are we just doing the design of the remote control itself, or sort of the instructions that would come with it? Rhonda Giordano: Better instructions. Jacqueline Light: Yeah. I mean we've done some research um about sort of you know what the cutting edge sort of hand held devices are, and a lot of them sort of use you know they're like they're like mini laptops. Rhonda Giordano: Mm-hmm. Jacqueline Light: So it's possible that we could devise a system where where you're you're basically sort of holding a a miniature computer which is controlling all your your sort of your television, your stereo, and where you know if you buy a new thing then it sort of you can link it to that as well, maybe. Rhonda Giordano: Okay. Um well we've got five minutes before the end of the meeting. So uh we have to uh start winding up. Um is there Next meeting in thirty minutes. Thelma Wyant: 'Kay. Jacqueline Light: Okay. Rhonda Giordano: So um Right, so we've got I_D_ the Come on, where's my Jacqueline Light: If you just click return it should be okay. It'll get rid of the message. Thelma Wyant: Or not. Jacqueline Light: If you hit just hit return and it should get rid of the message. Rhonda Giordano: Oh Jacqueline Light: Oh you've Rhonda Giordano: there Jacqueline Light: got. Rhonda Giordano: we go. Yeah. That's what I was looking for. Right. So we've got function Oh what happened to the Jean Seawright: I think that might be back to the start. Jacqueline Light: Yeah. Jean Seawright: Um if you grab the kind of uh slide Thelma Wyant: slide Jean Seawright: to the Thelma Wyant: four Jean Seawright: left and pull it down? Jacqueline Light: Yeah. Rhonda Giordano: Right. Rhonda Giordano: Right. Thelma Wyant: Okay. Rhonda Giordano: Sorry about that. Okay, so we've got um the working design for I_D_. For U_I_D_ the technical functions design. Marketing, the user requirement specification. Specific instructions will be sent to you by your person by your personal coach. So. Are we all clear what objectives we're looking to meet in the next thirty minutes? Jacqueline Light: Mm-hmm. Rhonda Giordano: And Thelma Wyant: Yes. Rhonda Giordano: I guess I'll try and write up some minutes of uh this meeting to uh to give it to you for the next Thelma Wyant: 'Kay, Rhonda Giordano: meeting. Thelma Wyant: yes. Jacqueline Light: Mm-hmm. Jean Seawright: I'm not exactly clear on what we're designing the rem remote for. Is this a mun multi-functional one or do we decide that ourselves as we go away and work on it? Thelma Wyant: I think you just said at the start it was a television remote control, Rhonda Giordano: Television Thelma Wyant: so maybe we Jean Seawright: Right. Rhonda Giordano: remote Thelma Wyant: should just Rhonda Giordano: control. Thelma Wyant: stick to that unless we get told otherwise. Rhonda Giordano: That's true, 'cause during during the course of our day we might make decisions based on information or meetings that would change Jacqueline Light: Okay Rhonda Giordano: where Jacqueline Light: cool. Rhonda Giordano: we're going. But at this point in time I think you're right that uh shall we make it just a T_V_. Okay? Thelma Wyant: 'Kay. Rhonda Giordano: So we will depart. We will stay here and uh and break off. And I'll do minutes and and we'll see you in half and hour. Thelma Wyant: Okay, that's great. Jean Seawright: Okay. Jacqueline Light: Okay Rhonda Giordano: Okay. Jacqueline Light: cheers. Rhonda Giordano: Right s

The group introduced themselves and their roles to each other. Rhonda Giordano introduced the project aim and agenda to the group. The group acquainted themselves with the meeting-room equipment by drawing on the whiteboard. Rhonda Giordano discussed the projected production cost and price point for the device. The group began a discussion about their own experiences with using remote controls and about usability features to be included in the design. Rhonda Giordano instructed Thelma Wyant to prepare the working design, Jean Seawright to research technical functions, and Jacqueline Light to prepare the user requirement specification. The group discussed the function of the prototype and decided that they should restrict the remote to television for the time being.

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: Okay. And don't forget the Oh yeah. Um, so hi everyone. Thanks for coming to this meeting. Um well as you all know the topic of this morning's meeting is uh the fact that we're moving and we are going to get more space. So that's a very good piece of news. Uh but we also have to find out how we use this space. So um if you want, I'll just give a brief overview of what's happening and then we can uh talk about, well, arranging these new uh the new office space So. um in case you haven't seen the the documents uh let Tracie Marsh just uh show you very briefly the the configuration of the the space. So um well, there is nothing much to say. Well you know how many of us are are present and you know that we are um a bit tight actually in our present location. Uh that's why actually the university finally um allocated us this uh this part of uh the Unimail building. So it's at the sixth floor. And it's uh sort of contiguous rooms as you you can all see from uh from here. Um so the the the one P_, two P_, three P_ means the the number of persons. As you can see we have several corridor um with a number of uh of uh of rooms, of one person rooms, two person room and and three person rooms. Um actually I think Agnes did this nice drawing so she even put the the view, so we have the old town on one side, and the mountains on the other two sides. Uh we have some bathrooms for us. Uh and a courtyard which actually means a sort of uh shaft, because uh the court is uh down at uh the first floor. Andre, just, yeah just a a clarification question, are they number of people per room indicated strict, or can we play around with? I mean if there are two people, is it really that you can't put three or uh two and a half or uh how how was it Well, calculated? it's a bit difficult to say, because um in fact we have some constraints in terms of furniture. Uh they are here. 'Kay. So um well, your your person Your your question actually is answered maybe by the third item. So each person should get um, well, it's a sort of desk, it's made of two pieces and it looks like a corner. With, of course, a chair. Uh a filing cabinet that goes under the desk uh and, well, we can put hanging shelves over the the desks. So I'm not really sure it's possible to get three um three desks in a two person office. But um we could Mm-hmm. try. What's What should be said here, I don't know if, well, you I I will maybe distribute now documents if you don't have them. Maybe it's easier. Do you need something, Martin? I Um, have everything. I can keep this for Okay, you. so Uh so it's I have it's a copy Yeah, Yeah. you have a copy, Susan. You too David, I think. Mm-hmm. So in fact there are more places than people, so we won't be that constrained. Uh as you know some of us and some of you here actually, Martin and David are part-time. So it it's for the moment quite comfortable. Normally we should even get an extra uh an extra place for, you know, temporary people coming to work on Are uh you sure on of that? projects. Uh yeah, I uh yeah, I counted so we have um fifteen pers physical persons Mm-hmm. and about uh sixteen, I think, uh persons oh, actually, Two eighteen persons in the offices. Six seven eight Yeah, nine but counting ten the eleven rea twelve the thirteen the fourteen reading room. fifteen Exactly, sixteen it so seventeen one eighteen. of the issues uh here, it's probably not on the slides, is that we would like to have uh, unlike what had until now, a lounge or reading room Mm-hmm. uh in one of the the offices. So in one of the rooms. Do we really need that? Um, I think quite a lot of people e expressed the need for that. So if we could do it, then I think it would be much nicer. Um let Tracie Marsh also uh st say something forget Yep. time we spend to for discussions about that room, so you should be able to valorize this if Okay. possible. Yeah, I I But think I still so. agree with you that the b the we are not so we are not so large, as far as space is Yeah. concerned. Uh because fifteen people to put in there eighteen positions, Mm-hmm. so uh to the best uh if you take uh two people room for the reading room, then you have Well, sixteen uh sixteen places. slots for Mm. fifteen people. So it's still should be feasible. Yeah, that that also means That's that the growth will be zero. Yeah, I think that's quite important to manage some space. Maybe we can think of, yeah, some two Visiting or three, visiti visiting yeah, researchers, for visiting people. students coming Correct. for exchange students et cetera. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay, so let Tracie Marsh finish with the the constraints which are almost done. So we also need to to find the a spot for the photocopier, the fax machine, and the printer. The fax, you know, is very small, but um the photocopier is quite huge, and the printer is uh well ab this size. Um okay, the offices comes with white boards. Not very uh very important. Uh the furniture that w each each person has and uh you have a list of people. So the thing uh you you ought to know is that we're not the only ones that w we're thin that that are thinking about uh for well, about putting people i in these rooms. Um there is another group that is also having discussions. So the idea is that today we'll just try to f start seeing the main constraints and then you have time to to go and think about it uh ask the people you know, your assistants, for instance, next meeting we'll try to to come with one solution. Uh, the other group will also propose a solution and then there will be another negotiation. So And w if we don't get this space then what happens? Uh if i if we don't get these? These, yeah. Um, well We j basically we stay they are where promised we are. to us so uh Do do you think there are chances that they take from us one of the rooms or uh Okay. Yeah, I I I think it's uh Uh, No the the the chances yeah. might be that there are more people to put in that space. Yeah i yeah, that's one of the the problems. I think maybe we should take this into account and maybe think of some of the bigger rooms with four people, one being temporary or or part-time. Um okay, so maybe we could try to to see now what would be the main options. Say the general uh, well, arrangement options. Do you think that we should put people, say, according to projects for instance? In in the table that um that we have, uh we also have the uh uh the p the main projects on which the people are working. So how Andre, sorry for Yeah. interrupting, but uh one Mm-hmm. again clarification question, what is the real margin of manoeuvre that we have for these discussions, because uh at least we are half per cent uh fifty per cent of from E_P_F_L_ and uh sometimes you have meetings where w y the the decision is already taken, so uh um you can spend quite a lot of time discussing things, so what what will be the impact of what we will come out Oh, actually come what up with? is fixed is the n the number of rooms. This we cannot really change. I mean at least not us, it would be much more difficult to get another another room for instance. But what is absolutely n not fixed is the arrangement of the people in the rooms. So So, another basically way of we a are all the permutations are possible at the moment. Another way of asking the question, is there any other group already working on uh on the how this should be uh should be allocated? Or are we the Um the one that is supposed to do the p the the p position for it? Well, what we are looking for is a solution that suits everyone and that makes the maximum of people happy. So uh the other group is, uh I don't think we have to see them as competitors, but they are just trying to to find another local optimum. Or But l wha why uh why don't they have any representative here. I mean Yeah, why didn't we have a meeting together? Yeah, Uh, they why have Uh do another we do group it separately? and uh uh Andre and Agnes will about it with. You are the rep representative Yeah. of this group actually. Yeah uh uh we Yeah. I I think that's Yeah, there is no real competition between the two, but we'll just try to find at least two solutions and see how how close they are, actually. It's it's I think well the m the people who who decided this thought it was the best solution to, mm well, you know, find two two kinds of opinions. Yeah. Okay. Well, we could have been eight h sitting around here and and talking, but I think it's it's more difficult. No, but you know that that's a standard thing. It's Suppose that somebody for some strange reasons want to be in the corner and we don't know about that, we'll put them put her or him somewhere else, then we will do plenty of work for nothing, Mm-hmm. because we'll not have this constraint. We'll not Well be aware of this constraint. Exactly, I think So so today the goal is not to to find the solution Oh, today, okay. but to set some constraints Okay. and then go and see the people and find out if they have any preferences. Obviously we won't be able to accommodate all the the preferences, but at least we'll find the most uh the most important ones. Well, certainly we have P s to I think ask uh Pierrette and uh and Maggie, since they're not here, because Mm-hmm. they also a Yeah. lot of students that they have to see as we do, and Yeah. so that's another consideration, too. Yeah, I think so that's one of the things I think we know that they have students, we don't know exactly if they prefer for instance to be alone, or to well, to be with their assistant, or even with another person working on the project. So that would have been maybe, yeah, another solution is to ask everyone to provide uh an arrangement, but uh I think that's a bit uh a bit hard then to to work out. Um so since all of you have a copy of the uh, well, of the drawing, I think for the next time, m maybe you could come with a concrete proposal with uh names on it. But let us try to see today whether we prefer to organise people, say, by projects or just professor and assistant. So what would be f, say, first your preferences, since Let's let's start with us, maybe today. Um what do you think about it? Would you prefer to be alone, would you prefer to be with your assistant. You who are part-time, do Hmm. you think you can come here on a very w well regular schedule or is it part-time, but variable during the week? Yeah uh, okay uh, Tracie Marsh personally I would like to to to share the other peopl n uh the room with assistants as when you have problems of normal life, like uh the printer doesn't work, uh I don't want to ask this to my supervisor, Uh-huh. And since you're coming on the uh half-time, Mm-hmm. do you think you will be able to group your presence here, say Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday morning, or is it going to be What m much uh more random? I don't think it's a good idea to share uh t to ha to share the same desk. Okay. Uh I still would like to have my drawers and these things. Yeah, I think so too. Um so Martin, you are also uh half-time and, well, the third person is Gisella. I think it's quite clear that mm each person should have their own desk and I agree with Yeah. that. That's It's no no way we we could put two persons at the same desk. Whe whe where part-time is important is that it's n an overlo load on a room, so um for sure if you have a part-time person, it reduces the the ranges of time where too many people in the room. Yeah, I think As far grouping as I am concerned I probably might be able to have a kind of a regular presence here. Um, the uh the thing that f in my case has to be taken into account is that I will have a lot of phone calls. So Mm-hmm. I'll be talking o Oh o great. o over the phone all the time. So that's not necessary Well, it depends on I I have nothing against sharing a a an office with somebody. I d already did it before, so and it was perfectly fine. It just has to be somebody who can work while somebody else is having phone calls in the in the room, which is very d much dependent on people. Some people are not disturb at all by this. Mm-hmm. Some people just can't work. Are you disturbed by the phone calls of other people? I'm not. Okay. But uh and uh what might happen, but it uh it will not be so heavy here uh at ISSCO is visitors. So that I will have more at E_P_F_L_, uh typically students Mm-hmm. coming in um or asking for things. As I'm not teaching here, I'm teaching at E_P_F_L_, this should shouldn't be a such a big load. So for Tracie Marsh it it will be essentially I will not Mm-hmm. be I will not be able to be silent in the room, because I will be communicating also through vocal means, so Mm-hmm. Ye mm before um talking more about individual preferences, is there any possibility, what they have done in the uh faculty of law, for example, that they actually split rooms? And so we would take uh uh one of the two people rooms Hmm. and split it. And you would see that you would have Yeah. the same size office, but that would give the privacy. Mm-hmm. Um insofar as in just about every other faculty in the building, every professor has their own office. Mm-hmm. And it's Hmm. it's really it goes a bit far that uh we have to have this uh all this sharing uh. So one option and that but that we would need to ask about if we could uh split one of the rooms uh Do you go for boxes for instance? In the in the bigger rooms where, yeah Like You know like cubicles. uh cubicles? Yeah. That doesn't really solve it uh Hmm. I mean there's there's You mean, really you a difference really want Mm-hmm. to to have having walls. to have your own Yeah, and sometimes Four walls. you have uh Yeah. you need to have private uh discussions Yeah, with somebody sure or sure. whatever, so Yeah, I I I will try to find out whether we can separate. I think for the moment the answer at least is no, because um it's not only, well, making a wall, but also b mm making a new door. So it's quite a lot of uh of work, but uh I will try to find this out for the next time. Um, so at least for the moment, as you can see there are uh I can show them here on the screen. So there are these two rooms on the left that uh accommodate one person. Mm-hmm. So at least Yeah. some of the professors, since you are four, uh could could go uh well, could take these uh these rooms. And quite a lot of rooms with two persons. Uh how do you feel Susan about the professor sharing the room with her assistants or the one which is the most involved in in the teaching? Well, I I think it's uh really a matter of personal preference. As you know um, I prefer to have Hmm. uh my own office. Hmm. Um, I also have uh a lot of phone calls and y you know, have to see people, and with the other work that I'm doing with the rectorate uh, that is really confidential information that Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm treating. So Yeah. I That I have to be really careful about too. But it's a personal preference uh. Insofar as what we've had up until now, both Maggie and Pierrette have been happy to share with others. So I mean I think Mm-hmm. that we should still check with them I fully agree with that. That's uh it's much easier to Tracie Marsh to uh to foresee having two people of the same position sharing a room, than Well, not uh sharing with each other. They Oh each sharing share with with an their assistant. students. Yeah. Oh sorry, Yeah. because but that that's uh it's it's tricky because of confidentiality reasons, as you said. Yeah, you you you are discussing a budget on the on the project, you over the phone typically you don't necessary want to have somebody who will be dependent Paid on Mm-hmm. on that that budget being part of the discussion, Mm-hmm. so Yeah, that's um that's true. Um, okay. Um, maybe we could s look a bit at the projects. Do you think it's a good idea to put together in the same room as No. much as possible people from the same project, since they talk No, because quite a lot of to pro each other? project doesn't last in time. They will change. Mm-hmm. That's Okay. what Well, yeah, and some of the P_H_D_ students will hopefully Yeah, they will finish promote that. their P_H_D_ at some point. But still, th some things Well, Mm-hmm. yeah. Yeah, and also some of our the people mentioned here are working on more than one project Yeah. too. So For example, Mm-hmm. uh Marianne de uh, she's also working with Tracie Marsh on the virtual campus project, so Uh-huh. she that one wasn't mentioned, but I'm not saying Okay, that I necessarily yeah. want to be with her in the office, but Mm-hmm. uh it's just to say people are working on uh sometimes more than one project uh If if it if i if projects are what you have in mind, I think that uh meeting room is the the tool for that. Yeah. If you need Yeah. to have people in a projects talking together, they just have a meeting room if Yep. it's not too far away then then it's a very good good Yeah. practice. Well, actually, so the lounge could serve as some kind of meeting room, but there are also more formal meeting rooms Yes. available in in the building, as we That's now why know. I was quite receptive to uh Susan's remark at the beginning is I wouldn't formulate it in a such a an extreme way as, do we really need the lounge? But uh I would Mm-hmm. p probably formulate it in the way that uh, do we want to have only a lounge or s something that can be used only as a reading room? Because because meeting rooms to Tracie Marsh are very important tools to do uh collaborative work. Mm-hmm. But on the So other I hand think we we also need a have to relax, so that's Yeah, and and I think also we need a separate discussion on the furnishing of the Yes. lounge, Well, which is yeah, a we'll whole skip that other for now. topic. Yes. No I d um the lounge okay, but I think we need to also see it as a overflow place when we have Yeah. um uh visitors for any length of time, so Yeah. they actually have a place to work. 'Cause that's really my one of my worries Uh-huh. with the plan that we have here is that it's it pr provides no possible possibilities of expansion. And Um this will happen. I mean you can't you can't prevent having visitors. And you shouldn't. No, Yeah, you want to have yeah, visitors. for the moment Yeah. actually I think only one slot would be fully free. Uh Which that for is for fifteen Yeah. people it's not enough. Yeah, I that means mean uh one visitor at Yeah. a time. Or one Yeah it's intern. Yeah, that's We have we have four It's Mm-hmm. professors here and and and It's funny Mm-hmm. that uh we two move researchers. to another building because we run out of uh space and we will have the same problem. Mm. Yes, but we have more space here than Ah what we okay. currently have, Yeah, so it's already in progress. it's at least It's bad some it's And you're bad. you're working Uh I think, yeah, w Okay, so one of the things I have to do for the next time is fin find out about the separations between rooms Because this and is really related with security uh regulation as well. I mean you can't just put walls in in rooms Yeah, I without think it's any quite specific a heavy transformation authoris Yeah. of the building. Uh it's not necessary heavy in terms of work. It's heavy Mm-hmm. in terms of administrative authorisation. Mm-hmm. And At okay, least at E_P_F_L_. I'll try to find out. And the other question is, can we squeeze maybe four people in the uh or at least four places in the three three P_ room? I think so. If you organise the desks in a in a intelligent way. Mm-hmm. Yeah, hopefully visitors don't need as much say filing Yep. space, or um Yeah, right, that's the point. Yeah, they don't have that many papers. Uh okay. So that's uh I have to to ask, so you don't really feel um very strongly attached to this uh grouping by projects No. idea? No. Mm-hmm. No, Um because they can share their ideas across the project, yeah, I would say. Coffee machines are that made for that. Yeah, But uh exactly. usually, whe when new assistants come, they Mm-hmm. would like to share the room with someone that knows uh l uh it's related with the project, so he No, can Mm-hmm. that's that's proximity doesn't play a big role there. We can discuss Yeah, they with people that they the can the change. space is very small, I mean, altogether it's Mm. Mm-hmm. And uh No, you okay. don't y you don't need to discuss about the projects, you f more need about th to discuss about where is the printer, how do I get furniture, I'm I don't have a a pencil, where is the the box with the pencils, and so on. This is not project related. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, and if you look now at their uh the the current division of the offices, for example, uh Bruno and Agnes are sharing an office and they're working on totally different projects and Mm-hmm. Yeah. and they're they're just fine with that. Yeah, I think that's that's going to be one of the the main things we'll have to ask is whether people have strong preferences either in staying with someone or in uh not staying. Um, are you aware f of any strong constraints right now? Well, there there were, but they sort of disappeared as of October when the no smoking rule came in, because before we were Oh. grouping Yeah, the smokers that's true. and now that there's no smoking, uh I guess that's not very important option, though Okay, yeah, that's true. So smoking is now um no longer a constraint. Well, except for that maybe you don't even want anybody smoking on your balcony, so Yeah. Is it allowed to smoke inside an office, if it's a one No. person No, not any No. more. No, n it's It's non-smoking in campus. in principle it's a it's a no smoking building. You can smoke outside. Mm-hmm. So you can go outside onto the balcony Not even in the to cafeteria? smoke. Not even Downstairs? in the cafeteria. No. Full Yeah. That's no Okay. smoking the new building regulation. Wow. for all of the six thousand students. On the roof maybe. Uh on the balcony, actually. Yeah. The balcony, Yep. okay. Yeah. Normally. There is the there's that terrace. But Wow, Andre, uh just there there's a no place in inside the building? No. Wow, E_T_P_F_L_ is a c it's a non-smoking campus, but there are some places tha Still some places where smokers can Yeah survive. yeah yeah. But Andre, just Yeah. a comment abou Mm-hmm. about your your previous uh request. I I don't think that anyone will provide you information such as who doesn't want to be with whom. That's a typical uh output of ex uh research in expert systems. These are the rules that you never get. But uh you can get them through a proposal. The other way. So you propose Mm-hmm. a set-up, where people are with other peoples and they will find politically correct ways to tell you that uh they don't want to have a view on the mountains, but they prefer to have view on the old town, so they O on the would toilets be in or the toilets. They would um p prefer to be in another Mm-hmm. room. No, we we do have one constraint that's difficult, which is uh Gisella, because when Yeah. she's Yeah. there she's very noisy. Yeah. She's on the But phone that's a sec a lot s that's It's the just admin that's it's the admin by uh so Yeah. it's part of It's the by work. nat uh by Yeah. the nature of her work that uh Mm-hmm. a lot of it is communication. Yes, Martin said Yeah. also for him and, yeah, especially for Yep. her. Yeah the in she's the interface. And So that that's a problem, you're right, because Mm-hmm. because we don't have a one person we d we don't have enough one person rooms Yep. for uh accommodating the uh the admin place. And uh if you put two person persons or three persons for the admin space, who who who else would you put in there? Mm-hmm. Because we don't have any assistant manager or we don't have We have only one half part half-time uh admin and no other non-researcher positions, if I'm not mistaken. And this is Yep. really a piece of a problem. Maybe Yeah. you could put some visitors, but um Yeah, I know. It's I not think very Yeah. uh realistic Mm-hmm. in a in a in an admin I think room, putting but Gisella uh with the other admin of the school is not an option, because I think we weren't that's a offered excellent idea. Yeah, it would be nice, Why but don't we uh ask about that? Yeah, Okay, I'll try to because find out, but You can't uh put a researcher there. That's just Either you lose one position I th or you find another admin or assistant manager. Yeah. I mean there is certainly enough space uh down the hall, wi Yeah. if all of those uh uh offices that are, where half of them are also half time, and they're very under-used. So um Okay, we'll try, but all these, yeah, are say sort of difficult questions because they involve changing also the offices of Yep. the school and, you know, people just don't wanna change in general. Um, let's see, maybe we can find some temporary well, at least a proposal for Gisella. So, since the one-person rooms are quite, well, sort of um desired by a lot of people, she No that's should not probably sure that's not sure. No, Uh the y there are Yeah. To Tracie Marsh there Okay. are two options possible is either you we can take one of the one person rooms for the admin, because Mm-hmm. some of, typically, the professors have good reasons for sharing. Mm-hmm. Sharing either with a colleague or sharing uh with some of their uh one of their P_H_D_ students. In that case it's it's realistic. Then we could very very simply uh allocate the one pers one of the one person rooms for the admin. And that would solve the problem. The other thing is to take a two person room for the admin. That could Mm-hmm. be the one uh close to the uh close to the here in the centre so uh the Uh, the the middle one here? Yeah. But Okay. tha No no no, the other one, the the one op Yeah, here, This this one. one. Okay. But then uh that the the question of what do we do with the second position there remains fully open. Mm-hmm. So I would Well be I would be more of the opinion to to see whether it's it's so evident that, let's say the at least the two full full-time professors that are here on the list, we have one here, but uh Yeah. Maggie is is not present. Mm-hmm. If they really And Pierrette too. Yeah, and Pierrette. Yeah. If Yeah, well if if because of personal preferences they would be happy with a two person room, Mm-hmm. which might or might not be the case. I mean it's it's Yeah. certainly not uh something that we should impose, Mm-hmm. but we can ask. Yeah, because in this case, yeah, Gisella could take one of the the two person rooms and the other place would be for some kind of visitor, Yeah, but that's that not realistic either. I mean, you have you have I a fore or foreign researcher coming visiting you and you will put put him in the admin office? Ah. Okay. Uh. Uh you'll not do that. I mean uh, maybe you can do that with an exchange student, that's Yeah, Yeah, or with with an intern. younger people, yeah. But Mm-hmm. you can't take a senior visitor and uh No. him in the in So the secretary. we we invite invite and then we say, okay you can Uh sit you're with here. Gisella. Yeah. Okay. Okay so this sets a bit the stage for uh for Gisella then. Uh yeah we'll try to to find out. Um, actually, yeah, maybe we should remind that quite a lot of professors at the at the school actually share their office with their assistant. So b it looks like sort of an implicit tradition. Um Maybe As not Susan to Except said, be for followed. p in every other faculty. Okay. Yeah? Is that so? Yes, it is so Oh. Every. other faculty as far as I have seen their offices and the people Mm-hmm. that I know and that's in um in law, Yeah. uh socio-economics, Okay. uh okay? It's a They all have their own office. I mean in in the No no, that's in it. the law faculty they're at best there half time. As we said, it's Mm-hmm. it's really a matter of personal preference, it cannot be something else. It cannot Yeah. be imposed for sure. It's uh Um, okay so I think Well, this sets a bit uh the stage. Uh could we try So could you try please to uh Do you want an extra uh piece of paper? Maybe try to, job. well, think on your own and then talk a little bit just to the people around you. Again uh uh um, Andre, I think that the only realistic way we can do is to speak for our for ourselves. I can tell you Mm-hmm. according to what I know now where I would like or would be ready to be, but I really don't see how I could decide for uh Maggie or Pierrette or Yeah. whoever else on the list, No the point We're that gonna was have they to to. should try be to, there. well, just Yeah, b why why talk couldn't to them, we do like to David, couldn't or we do it like for for the the set-up of meetings. You you everyone received that and uh should provide Yeah, I would Mm-hmm. like to be here. And then you will have this multi-constraint problem and uh you work during Yeah. two hours and you come So up w with w the optimal w will solution. you ask people just for their place or also Yeah, for I the would other people's I would place? ask for their place. I mean that's that's Because that's the important Uh-huh. thing you want to know. Well, W what but that's abou what about the the the cafeteria? I mean, we are going to purchase a cafeteria with a projector and all this Uh it's a reading altogether room. or Reading room, yeah. It's Reading altogether. room, it's not a cafeteria. So in the But living that that's room an open question whether it's a it's a it's a it At the origin it was supposed to be a f pure reading room for relaxing, uh reading the newspapers, et cetera, et cetera. Mm-hmm. Uh there has been a very long discussion about that. I stinct uh this discussion is still vivid, that some of the people, I bel belong to these people, would like to have a mixed room where you can have a reading room for sure, but also meeting room if necessary. Or, as uh Susan said, a room an emergency room where you can put uh some visitors in a decent environment for for Mm-hmm. for for work, because you don't have any other place to do it. But that's that's really an open discussion and that d I think no Yeah. decision, no final Okay, decision th has then been taken about that. Okay then for the next time, um try to come up either with your own preferences, that's Yes. quite easy probably to state now that you know the constraints, Yes. or if you can poll a little bit the people around you, that would be I mean, The even one that I don't want to have in the next room? Well, just discuss i Yeah, for instance, I mean No, no, I was thinking just ask people around you Okay. what they think about this. And I think, yeah, it will be nice to to come with maybe a sketch of of these. If you can do slides, it's even better, but uh don't be that formal. And uh we'll try to at least build up one coherent proposal, and we'll merge it with the other one when the other one uh is available. Okay. Okay, I'll Um. ask um uh Maggie and Pierrette uh if That would they be great. have Oh, uh great. That would be any great. preferences. Mm-hmm. Perfect. C that that of course is one of the Yeah. main well not main but Yeah. one of the important No. features that we need to Yeah, know since about. they're not at the meeting I think Yes. it's in And out I'll try of courtesy to we should Yes. first ask Bu I ju them. just before Fine. finishing uh, I mean, we have a cafeteria or we don't eat at all? We don't have cafeteria. What do you mean by cafeteria He means reading exactly? room. A place n what mm uh What we can take a coffee also. No, there is no coffee in the reading room. No? Yeah, That w we was can the wrong bring We your coffee in the reading we did not room, have any but money for buying the coffee machines, So so so since maybe, you're a part-time here, and part-ti part-time at E_P_F_L_, there are at least two um coffee machines in the building, one at the third floor, one at the first floor. But And they we can close bring at our coffee. five or? No Ah uh automatic okay. No. Coffee uh machines. coffee machines. Okay, okay. So uh yeah. No, there's But, the cafeteria is downstairs, in Yeah, yeah, but they this. close Uh-huh. at five. Five. Ah that's the main problem. Yeah, Mm-hmm. but there's the two machines, and they're uh the vending machines where you just Yeah, put vending the money machines. and and And Mm-hmm. Okay. you you can can bring get your coffee Yeah. in the Okay. reading room. Yeah. Yeah, maybe this is not a very bad timing. Could we try T to to meet try the coffee? uh next Tuesday? Wait. Um, next Tuesday maybe at t maybe a bit later? Maybe at eleven Wait, wai wai o'clock? wai wait. Wait, Next wait. Tuesday. Tuesday um Come on, try try to be nice. Uh, well well well well, not Gi so give easy, Yes, eh? Tracie Marsh a reasonable I ha I date. have Ch no constraints, so it's fine. Um we have the Yeah, don't for forget Tracie Marsh it's we have a good the other timing. meeting the M_D_M_ meeting in the morning, so it would have to be in the afternoon. Uh-huh, Next okay. Tuesday we have a meeting, Yeah. yeah. Exactly. That might be Where is the meeting? It's Unimail? Yeah. Okay, so, yeah yeah, then it could be At that nine thirty, but we could do we could That have this meeting yeah. then in the That afternoon. Okay. Nah? that would be great, because that would Mm-hmm. allow us not to move, or Very not well. to travel Yep. twice. So about two o'clock? Would Okay. that be okay? After Yeah, lunch. Yeah. after lunch. It's not Okay. a very demanding Right. meeting, Yep. so um Okay. Perfect. Um, then let Tracie Marsh close this. And uh good luck for your arrangement games. Thank you.

Jackie Leigh opened the meeting and described the layout of the new location the group might be moving to. Jackie Leigh answered questions regarding the number of people per office and whether a lounge was necessary. Jackie Leigh discussed constraints regarding furniture and equipment and addressed the issue that the group may not get the space they are after. The group then discussed how to arrange people within the proposed space. The group discussed grouping professors and their students together, grouping members of the same project together, the potential disturbance of phone calls to people sharing an office, physically splitting up offices for the sake of privacy by erecting walls, creating a meeting room for people of the same project to converge, how to accommodate visitors, where people can go to smoke, where to place Gisella, and how to allocate space to admin. The group also discussed the possibility of having a cafeteria and the locations of coffee machines.

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Anita Franco: Okay. Mary Hazlett: So I see all everybody's here, 'kay. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: Yep. Mary Hazlett: And we can start meeting. Anita Franco: Okay. Sheryl Freitas: What's the agenda for this meeting? Mary Hazlett: The I will uh present here agenda with with with with slides Sheryl Freitas: Okay Mary Hazlett: to you. Um as you can see here. Judith Guzman: Perfect. Mary Hazlett: So first uh just to mention I will take notes Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: uh of this meeting and uh I will try to work them out and give them to you. I've also made notes of the previous meeting and um I was about to send them you but then uh I had to go to this uh meeting so you will get them too uh Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: Next. Mary Hazlett: Um. Judith Guzman: So y you the also. Mary Hazlett: Yes. Judith Guzman: Right? Okay. Mary Hazlett: Indeed. Um. Then I hope you all have uh worked out some Judith Guzman: Perfectly Mary Hazlett: some Judith Guzman: yeah yeah Mary Hazlett: uh Judith Guzman: of course uh-huh. Mary Hazlett: some some presentations about uh about well you the the task given to you in the previous meeting. Um. W We will uh in a minute we will uh start with them. Um, we will see in which order we will handle them of. Um then I will uh bring in some some some new requirements I I got uh from the uh account manager, I try to work them out, they were quite abstract, and we Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: can have maybe have com some discussion about it. Uh Um about the functions and Well in this meeting we should really try to reach a decision about the target group Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: and the functionality of the Judith Guzman: You mean the social target group Mary Hazlett: Yes Judith Guzman: who we Mary Hazlett: I mean Judith Guzman: wants Mary Hazlett: well Judith Guzman: to target? Mary Hazlett: yes w who are we going to uh to Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: well Judith Guzman: Oh the Mary Hazlett: to sell Judith Guzman: customers, Mary Hazlett: this, Judith Guzman: okay. Mary Hazlett: the customers, Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: indeed yes. Think that's that's important Sheryl Freitas: That's the big question Mary Hazlett: matter. Sheryl Freitas: yeah. Mary Hazlett: Uh. So And then uh we will close this meeting uh and after this meeting we'll uh we'll have a lunch. Good. Um. Maybe um why uh Anna can you c do you have a presentations? Sheryl Freitas: No, I don't. Mary Hazlett: You don't have presentation? Sheryl Freitas: I wasn't. No. Mary Hazlett: Uh you want a table to to uh Sheryl Freitas: I c I can talk about it but I have no Mary Hazlett: Yes Sheryl Freitas: slides Mary Hazlett: yes Sheryl Freitas: or anything. Mary Hazlett: maybe maybe you can uh can just talk about it or maybe you can use the whiteboard if necessary um. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Well I've just been um presented with some research we've done in a small focus group so, a hundred people, just asked them about their remote control usage habits and what they want in a remote control. Um. It's probably can't email this to you, I've just got a web page with some data on it. Um basically it's saying that users generally dislike the look and feel of their remote controls. Um seventy five u seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly. Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Sheryl Freitas: Um. Eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy. Um. Current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. Uh seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot, so they use their remote control quite frequently while they're watching television. Uh. Fifty percent of users say that they only use ten percent of the buttons, so they've got a remote control with a lot of functionality but really most of the time they only use a small part of that. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: Um. Mary Hazlett: Do you Do you have this uh information on the web page Sheryl Freitas: I have Mary Hazlett: you Sheryl Freitas: an Mary Hazlett: said? Sheryl Freitas: a web page yes. Mary Hazlett: Yes, mayb maybe you can can send an email to Sheryl Freitas later uh. Sheryl Freitas: Yep. Yep, sure. Mary Hazlett: Uh about this. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. So basically um there's a breakdown of how much they use the different functions on a rem remote control. Um, power and volume selection are only used a few times within this uh per hour. Um, channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight times um and then there's things like channel settings, audio settings, which are only used very infrequently. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: Um. Teletext is used um fourteen times in the hour, so it is used but not nearly as much as Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: the channel selection is used. Um. An interesting thing that this report has brought up is that um fifty fifty percent of users report that the remote control gets lost a lot of the time in the room, Mary Hazlett: Yes Sheryl Freitas: so Mary Hazlett: yes, Sheryl Freitas: some Mary Hazlett: I Sheryl Freitas: way of Mary Hazlett: have that too. Sheryl Freitas: some way of locating the remote control would be very useful to a lot of users. Um. Thirty four percent said it takes too long to learn to use a remote control, they want something that's easier to use straight away, more intuitive perhaps. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: Um. Judith Guzman: It's it's easy to learn or how do you say it's Sheryl Freitas: Thirty four percent said it took too much time to learn to Judith Guzman: Okay Sheryl Freitas: use a Judith Guzman: too Sheryl Freitas: new Judith Guzman: much Sheryl Freitas: one. Judith Guzman: time to learn. Sheryl Freitas: Yep. Judith Guzman: Okay. Sheryl Freitas: Um. Judith Guzman: Not enough Sheryl Freitas: And thirty twenty six percent said remote controls are bad for R_S_I_. I don't know how we'd go about combating that. Anita Franco: What do you mean there? Sheryl Freitas: For R_S_I_? Respet Repetitive strain injury. Anita Franco: Okay. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: So. But Mary Hazlett: They think that or do their doctor the doctor says? Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: But it's it's the opinion of the uh of the Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: users huh? Sheryl Freitas: That's what the report Mary Hazlett: So Sheryl Freitas: says yeah. Mary Hazlett: mm. Sheryl Freitas: Um and then it's got a demographic breakdown Judith Guzman: Maybe Sheryl Freitas: on Judith Guzman: y y you cannot put this webpage online on the Sheryl Freitas: Uh I should be able to actually, if I email it to you now. Anita Franco: You can disconnect it there no? Mary Hazlett: You can maybe just just Judith Guzman: Ah it's Sheryl Freitas: Oh no, yeah. Judith Guzman: it okay it's a webpage on the C_ Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Judith Guzman: it's a file okay. O Sheryl Freitas: Um, Judith Guzman: otherwise Sheryl Freitas: s hang Judith Guzman: you. Sheryl Freitas: on. Anita Franco: Then you can connect this one Judith Guzman: can Anita Franco: or Judith Guzman: this Anita Franco: this Judith Guzman: one. Anita Franco: one yeah. All to your computer. Judith Guzman: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: Well. Judith Guzman: So these are important numbers that Matthew and I need to take Anita Franco: Oh Judith Guzman: into account for Anita Franco: yeah. Sheryl Freitas: Oh Judith Guzman: our Sheryl Freitas: I need to muck around Judith Guzman: functional Sheryl Freitas: with this. It's probably Judith Guzman: um Sheryl Freitas: easier if you put it on yours and then I'll just email it to you. Mary Hazlett: Hmm. Sheryl Freitas: It's just Judith Guzman: Yeah Sheryl Freitas: a web link. Anita Franco: Okay. Judith Guzman: Yeah these numbers have have to be have to be taken into account Anita Franco: Hmm. Judith Guzman: for the uh both yeah user interface and Anita Franco: Yeah. Judith Guzman: functional design. Sheryl Freitas: One thing it goes on to talk about, which is interesting, is the hang on a minute. Judith Guzman: Because if there are many numbers and we need to select to to constraint uh our design based on what Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: is more important. Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Sheryl Freitas: Yep. Um, one thing is interesting is talking about um speech recognition in a remote control. Judith Guzman: Speech recognition in Sheryl Freitas: And who would pay more for that and whether people would find it useful. Mary Hazlett: D do you have Judith Guzman: Ah Mary Hazlett: numbers Judith Guzman: okay. Mary Hazlett: o o on that? Sheryl Freitas: Yes, I'll just get this up. Judith Guzman: So that we don't Do we not need any button on Sheryl Freitas: Well Judith Guzman: the remote Sheryl Freitas: potentially Judith Guzman: control Sheryl Freitas: yeah, Judith Guzman: it would be Sheryl Freitas: um Judith Guzman: all based on speech. Okay. Sheryl Freitas: I think even for Judith Guzman: Interesting idea. Sheryl Freitas: interesti yeah I think that would not work so well. You wanna have both options. Judith Guzman: Okay. Mary Hazlett: Well it would it would be a solution for uh when your remote control is lost, I mean when it Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: has speech recognition then uh Judith Guzman: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: i then it doesn't matter where it is, my well it's we should be in range, Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: or maybe it can respond and produce sound, so say where it is. Judith Guzman: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: But the these are all quite fancy features I'm not sure whether Anita Franco: Well it would Mary Hazlett: we Anita Franco: be Mary Hazlett: will Anita Franco: f Mary Hazlett: we can make this for for twelve Euro fi Judith Guzman: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: and fifty Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: cents. Anita Franco: No you can't. Judith Guzman: And we don't know where the state of the art of speech recognition is, maybe you know? Anita Franco: Oh. Well, it depends you know like there is uh a very small vocabulary you want to do the operations like you want say on, off, Mary Hazlett: Mm. Anita Franco: one, Judith Guzman: But it's quite noisy if there Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Judith Guzman: is the Anita Franco: twenty Judith Guzman: T_V_ Anita Franco: three, yeah. Judith Guzman: uh Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Anita Franco: It's it's Mary Hazlett: Yes, Anita Franco: going Judith Guzman: shouting. Anita Franco: to be Mary Hazlett: that Anita Franco: li Mary Hazlett: that Anita Franco: it's Mary Hazlett: that Anita Franco: not going to be Mary Hazlett: that's Anita Franco: s Mary Hazlett: mm. Anita Franco: so easy but u usually it's going to be more of an isolated Mary Hazlett: Do you have some more Anita Franco: case Mary Hazlett: important Anita Franco: but it's Mary Hazlett: facts Judith Guzman: Okay. Mary Hazlett: or Sheryl Freitas: Um Anita Franco: but I don't Mary Hazlett: can we Anita Franco: know Mary Hazlett: go Anita Franco: with twenty Judith Guzman: So Mary Hazlett: to Anita Franco: fi Mary Hazlett: the next Judith Guzman: you had Sheryl Freitas: Well Mary Hazlett: presentation? Judith Guzman: to to to summarise maybe the Sheryl Freitas: This is now talking about um who would pay for speech recognition in a remote control, who would pay more for it, um. Ninety percent of the fifteen to twenty five year old market said that they would pay more, it goes down from there, seventy six percent for twenty five to thirty five, thirty five percent for thirty five to forty five, um twenty two percent for forty five to fifty five and then Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: eight percent Anita Franco: Okay Sheryl Freitas: for fifty Anita Franco: it's Sheryl Freitas: five to Anita Franco: uh Sheryl Freitas: sixty five. Anita Franco: decline. Okay. Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Sheryl Freitas: But Mary Hazlett: Decline Sheryl Freitas: we sh Mary Hazlett: with age, Sheryl Freitas: Yeah, Mary Hazlett: mm. Sheryl Freitas: it really depends where we're gonna be targeting this product, Mary Hazlett: Mm. Judith Guzman: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: um, which we'll be talking about later I think. Mary Hazlett: Yes. We will talk about it later. Sheryl Freitas: Did Mary Hazlett: Okay. Sheryl Freitas: you get the email? Yep, Judith Guzman: Mm-hmm. Sheryl Freitas: that one. Just follow that link. Judith Guzman: I thi You us Sheryl Freitas: It'll be in a different Judith Guzman: yeah Sheryl Freitas: window, Judith Guzman: yeah. Sheryl Freitas: yep. That's left that one. Yep. Judith Guzman: Okay perfect. ... Sheryl Freitas: Mm. So that's the figure that I was just talking about there, with the different Anita Franco: Okay. Sheryl Freitas: demographics. Another thing it's talking about there is the L_C_D_ screen but there's no figures apparently on that. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Judith Guzman: Mm 'kay. Mary Hazlett: Okay. um Uh maybe uh Mael c c can you give uh uh Judith Guzman: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: your presentation uh? Judith Guzman: Mm I okay I stay Mary Hazlett: Oh, this is Anita Franco: Now you can move I think yeah. Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm, y y you can move, uh. Judith Guzman: I can move as far as Maybe I take your chair? I Mary Hazlett: Yes. Judith Guzman: okay. Mary Hazlett: You can you can sa take my chair. Anita Franco: It's a channel selection, a module, this and this Sheryl Freitas: Sorry? Anita Franco: function, go to the. Sheryl Freitas: Oh. Anita Franco: Yeah. Judith Guzman: So I think as everybody knows uh I'm the uh Industrial Designer. And uh in this presentation uh this group presentation um is gonna focus on the working design of the the remote control. Um I'd like first to give a quick a very simple introduction, how does it work, so that everybody knows even if you don't have a very uh technical background Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Judith Guzman: uh what is it because I think in the product it is important. So basically um the basic function of a remote control is to send uh messages to another system that is fixed. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: And so an energy source feeds an integrated circuit, the chip, that can compose messages, usually uh through a um infrared bit Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: and uh the user interface controls the chip and accordingly the the messages, alright. So my method for um designing the yeah the work design uh yeah first the the main point is that I would wish to to make a really functional product. I would prefer to have very functional um capabilities rather than fancy stuff that in fact is not used and doesn't work. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: So for that yeah as it's important to take into account the user requirements from the Marketing uh Expert uh Anna Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: and um w to to we should agree on what are the technical functions uh for this remote control and I show you the the working design. So um basically uh here is a really large view of what we want. Uh we want an on off button, it can be uh it's simple but it's it's important, Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Judith Guzman: and also uh the to both channels as well as other buttons that come after, right. So the components I quickly draw here, is that in this part you have the remote control the the sender and on the other part the receiver so that's my method is um will be to well my aim would be to uh design the and choose the chips and the infrared um components to build the remote control right. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: So of course we need energy sources and uh uh the receiver a a receiver. This is very quick uh design, uh you stop Sheryl Freitas or interrupt Sheryl Freitas if uh you don't agree on it on that. Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: And um so what I have found and after a lot of work actually I I draw Sheryl Freitas: Well. Judith Guzman: this I draw for you this uh schema Mary Hazlett: Uh-huh. Judith Guzman: that can be maybe too technical for you but is very important for Sheryl Freitas you know. Sheryl Freitas: You drew it a long time ago? Mary Hazlett: Is huh Judith Guzman: And Sheryl Freitas: Ninety one. Mary Hazlett: overwhelming. Judith Guzman: uh that's it so I won't go into details about that but Mary Hazlett: No. Judith Guzman: uh these are my preferences to use uh that kind of components. Mary Hazlett: And and why do Judith Guzman: So. Mary Hazlett: you want these kind of component? I mean, are they cheap, or are they uh reliable? What were your Judith Guzman: So components you see here are the cheapest I have found and yeah th you have always a compromise with uh reliability and uh i Mary Hazlett: Mm. Judith Guzman: if it's expensive, but uh this one was not this one also really uh reliable um so yeah that's it for the working design, uh I hope you get clearer view on uh what what a remote control is uh in terms of uh technical Mary Hazlett: Yes. Judith Guzman: components but maybe yeah Mary Hazlett: It it it's more clear now I think. So Anita Franco: But is it uh can you just buy it on the market and f plug it in or you want to ma Judith Guzman: No no no no we we will uh This is a preference but we can always change Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: uh Mary Hazlett: What I w what I was thinking about uh the the the schema uh about uh the sender and the receiver, I mean can you can Judith Guzman: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: you get back to it? Yeah uh, the receiver is of course already in the television and we are not uh able to change it. Judith Guzman: Of Mary Hazlett: So Judith Guzman: course yeah. Mary Hazlett: we we must adapt to the to the receiver. I I suppose there is a standard uh way of communicating to televisions uh. Judith Guzman: Yeah. We will use uh infrared protocol uh using yeah infrared and uh and of course we need to adapt to that protocol that already Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: exists and but we what we can do is uh uh adapting the the chips inside uh to the best uh chips Mary Hazlett: Mm. Judith Guzman: and Mary Hazlett: Mm. Mm. Judith Guzman: uh Mary Hazlett: Mm. Judith Guzman: infrared bubbles. Mary Hazlett: Yes. Okay. Judith Guzman: Um. Okay. Mary Hazlett: Thank you. Anita Franco: Well it to du it's just you had to change the frequencies. Judith Guzman: The frequencies? Yeah Anita Franco: Yeah. Judith Guzman: yeah. Of course yeah in the chip you have it yeah. Anita Franco: But you should be careful, people are sometime becoming problem, like a guy has recently designed a remote uh Judith Guzman: That can control Anita Franco: uh uh Judith Guzman: o Anita Franco: which Judith Guzman: other Anita Franco: could Judith Guzman: things. Anita Franco: switch off any other T_V_s, Judith Guzman: Yeah. Anita Franco: so basically through Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: Ah. Anita Franco: all the things. So maybe we should think of Judith Guzman: Of course yeah we should take that Mary Hazlett: Yeah Judith Guzman: into Sheryl Freitas: That's Judith Guzman: account Sheryl Freitas: handy. Mary Hazlett: yes Anita Franco: yeah. Mary Hazlett: I I Sheryl Freitas: So if the Mary Hazlett: I Sheryl Freitas: b T_V_ in the next apartment's Anita Franco: Yeah Sheryl Freitas: really loud, Anita Franco: so Sheryl Freitas: you Anita Franco: you can Sheryl Freitas: can Anita Franco: just Sheryl Freitas: just turn Anita Franco: go on Sheryl Freitas: it off. Anita Franco: the street and then switch off everyone's T_V_ and you can just walk away You don't have to be near the Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Anita Franco: T_V_ at all. Mary Hazlett: I Sheryl Freitas: I like Mary Hazlett: I Sheryl Freitas: that Mary Hazlett: feel Sheryl Freitas: idea. Mary Hazlett: I I I think M Mael will will consider this uh th these things. Maybe Maybe we can go to to your presentation Anita Franco: Yeah Mary Hazlett: uh Anita Franco: so. Mary Hazlett: Matthew. I I I assume you were finished here. Judith Guzman: Yes. Mary Hazlett: Uh okay. Anita Franco: Okay. So I can take I think mine now Judith Guzman: Okay. Anita Franco: there. Okay so voila. Hmm I can take mine it's okay, voila, mm so mm. Okay. Mary Hazlett: Oh. I Uh, sorry? I know where it is. Anita Franco: It's on the desktop. Mary Hazlett: It's uh Anita Franco: Technical function. Mary Hazlett: Yes. Anita Franco: Okay. Mary Hazlett: It's uh Anita Franco: Like so. Well. So um I'm going to talk a little bit about the technical function so wha what actually it's about what is the user going to do, I think my last Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: presented what is going inside, Sheryl Freitas: Yep. Anita Franco: so what's the user is going to see from the outside and how he is going to use it. So well the approach is that uh basically the idea is to send a message to the T_V_ set, as Mael has pointed, and it will be decoded by the T_V_ and usually we it is easier to have uh keys or buttons with which people can uh press and then um changing a button will basically uh change the message which is being sent to the T_V_ Judith Guzman: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: and uh um a and basically it sends an internal signal and decoded by the receiver. So p as um Anna has said that this ki people are interested in things which are you don't need to k press the keys, people are can have a speech recognition but this is uh s a question which will we have to see later. But Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: in the present scenario is that you have certain keys and you press it like your mobile phone, and it sends a message to the T_V_. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Judith Guzman: Yep. Anita Franco: And um so generally mm I don't have some figures sorry but um so there are two kinds of uh remote if you popularly in the household, actually so you have a standard T_V_ remote where you have just a on, off button and play, uh volume change and uh keys for the number and more than one digit option. And if you see for example righ right now uh uh even the one uh on more than one digit option is for two digit channel which is like ninety nine, but tomorrow you might have one fifty channels you know to browse or two hundred channels to browse who knows, but uh uh. Then there is uh this is the standard one with without any fancy thing you know like i it doesn't have teletext option, it can without any, it's a very simple thing, um which which you can vouch. And then you have uh what's the v video remote file which is like usually it has almost all the keys over there and, but it then it has other options like stop uh and then you play the movie or uh or fo fast forward the movie or Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: something like that so i it has those so these are the standard uh commonly found remote controls in the uh market. And then whi which is generally used by the people. And then well personal preferences I would uh basically think of having a kind of aim for the next generation thing where the we could have both the uh the f a T_V_ and the remote video remote control because uh some of the keys in the video's remote control and the T_V_ they could be integrated together so that uh we could um aim for the like in the f coming future um that type of uh applications Sheryl Freitas: Okay. Anita Franco: with Sheryl Freitas: How would that work? So you've got say maybe a V_C_R_ and a T_V_ which are separate, so you at home I've got a V_C_R_ remote which then changes the channel on the V_C_R_ Anita Franco: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: and doesn't do anything on the T_V_, Anita Franco: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: so is it gonna be like a switch on the remote that says t use the T_V_ or use the V_C_R_? or does it know which one you want to use? Anita Franco: Um actually um you could you could think of um having s a y you can have a key which could tell y it could go to the video Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: thing but um uh yo you you you still can't um in that case when it you use that the function should be able to take up the Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: V_C_R_ option and you could play it or You can also think about having like um in in few ye coming years you might even have a system where you have a separate uh sitting setup box and Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: uh you have uh um something like uh uh you do you do you suppose you are not able to watch some programme and Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: actually it downloading all the time for you Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: and uh you can just you know uh when you come back you could just switch on that thing and uh watch Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: a program. In that case you want to browse faster, browse slow, you Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: want to have Mary Hazlett: Mm Anita Franco: those Mary Hazlett: mm Anita Franco: kind of functionalities. Mary Hazlett: mm mm mm. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Judith Guzman: These are kind of next generation Anita Franco: It's the next generation thing, Judith Guzman: functionalities. Anita Franco: but it Mary Hazlett: Mm Anita Franco: is going to come Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: in couple Mary Hazlett: yes, Anita Franco: of years. Mary Hazlett: but Anita Franco: It's Mary Hazlett: I Anita Franco: goi Mary Hazlett: think it's i i it's already there, I mean the Anita Franco: Yeah Mary Hazlett: hard Anita Franco: it's Mary Hazlett: disk uh recorders Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: uh I I've seen them in the shop. Anita Franco: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Judith Guzman: Mm 'kay. Anita Franco: So it's going to record your things and you and Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: you you need basically the functionalities what you need in Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Anita Franco: both uh uh video Sheryl Freitas: That's fair enough. Anita Franco: as well as in the standard Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: T_V_ thing. Sheryl Freitas: But I don't think we're trying to make a universal remote here. Anita Franco: No no we are Sheryl Freitas: That's, Anita Franco: not making Sheryl Freitas: yeah. Anita Franco: a universal remote, we are just looking at uh giving a scenario, I have a T_V_ and tomorrow I am going to have set up box Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: which is going to sit there and Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: uh it's going to do Sheryl Freitas: Because Anita Franco: that job Sheryl Freitas: y Mary Hazlett: W Anita Franco: for Mary Hazlett: w Anita Franco: Sheryl Freitas. Mary Hazlett: w w we need to decide on on on on in how far we go to in this. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: Mean, Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: you can go pretty far I f I think with with with functions and Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: possible uh future p uh Sheryl Freitas: Yep. Mary Hazlett: prospects yes. Anita Franco: Yeah. So Mary Hazlett: But it's good to keep in mind. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: Okay so that p ends my presentation. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Very Anita Franco: Well. Mary Hazlett: well. Anita Franco: So we can always discuss about it for example uh the presently the video market actually uh this demand, video over-demand or what we call it as, Judith Guzman: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: it's Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: presently booming up actually Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Anita Franco: so it i like people are providing like uh things like uh uh movies, you can select actually so you want to watch a movie and uh your p your provider gives a list of movies, and then you select those list. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: Yeah. Anita Franco: And it basically you go off, it downloads the movie, it gives for you Judith Guzman: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: and then when you come you want to loo watch it on your T_V_. And Mary Hazlett: Good. Anita Franco: thi this is going to come. Judith Guzman: Or even you don't need to download it, it's streamed uh online uh Anita Franco: Yeah it can Judith Guzman: yeah. Anita Franco: be streamed Judith Guzman: Yeah. Anita Franco: online for you and you can say what time I want to watch the movie Judith Guzman: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: and Yeah so. Mary Hazlett: Um, Anita Franco: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: so u um have uh received some some some some well points of of thinking over of my account manager and uh I would like to share them with you. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: Um Judith Guzman: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: first thing is uh teletext is a well known feature of televisions but it's Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: it's getting used less and less. Anita Franco: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: That's that's especially because of the internet of course. Sheryl Freitas: Hmm. Mary Hazlett: So we should think about it um. Do we include it, and do we give it a prominent uh prominent uh place on on on the on well huh on the remote Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: mot control itself. Uh as uh a in any case it's it's not used, well very much, but it's it is still used. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: Um. Mary Hazlett: Um further yes we must think, uh do we stay uh to to television only, the television as we as we all know it with with broadcasting signals and you can't go back uh huh, or do we uh uh go further as Matthew indicated by supporting uh uh recording uh devices? Uh Sheryl Freitas: So D_V_D_s and V_C_R_s? Mary Hazlett: indeed indeed. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: And and and the hard disk recorders. Um, furthermore, uh, w we need really need to interest uh y younger customers and then with younger customers I mean people uh below the age of forty, Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: and our our current customers are mainly forty plus uh Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: which well Judith Guzman: Fourteen Mary Hazlett: Forty. Judith Guzman: or for O okay. So Mary Hazlett: So that's to that's I mean there's a market but uh they will grow older older and you'll al always need to have the the future with younger people. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: Um therefore, younger people like trendy trendy designs, so that's w we should make our our our R_C_ as trendy as possible but it should also be uh have a reliable image, so when it looks too too spacey or too fancy people will think well does it work at all. Hmm. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: Yeah it's uh well you you can follow the ideas how you want to keep the keys, you know right now if you take it you have like zero, one, two, three like a keys separately, Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: but suppose if you take the the present trend of mobile phones Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: there are like big thick keys you press on the top, it takes one number, you press on the bottom it takes another number, and uh basically uh uh so the space covered so that you don't see two separate keys there actually Judith Guzman: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: so it it is Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: like uh um i i it is like uh Mary Hazlett: Ma Maybe Maybe you can draw it on the Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: on the board Anita Franco: Yeah Mary Hazlett: uh Anita Franco: so. Sheryl Freitas: But I think taking the idea of getting inspiration from mobile phones is interesting, Judith Guzman: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: especially if we're Mary Hazlett: Hmm. Sheryl Freitas: going after a younger market, Mary Hazlett: Yes yes Judith Guzman: Because Mary Hazlett: mo Sheryl Freitas: that's Judith Guzman: they are Sheryl Freitas: the Judith Guzman: already Sheryl Freitas: the the Judith Guzman: used to that, Sheryl Freitas: mm Judith Guzman: you know, Sheryl Freitas: the new Judith Guzman: product. Sheryl Freitas: and the funky things, Mary Hazlett: Yes Judith Guzman: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: that's, Mary Hazlett: it's recognisable Sheryl Freitas: yeah, there's lot there's lots of pretty mobile phones, not too many Mary Hazlett: Mm mm. Sheryl Freitas: pretty remote controls. That's Mary Hazlett: And and they are skilled uh by using it. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: So for example uh Well Judith Guzman: Mm-hmm. ... Anita Franco: uh Okay, it works. Fine. So, for example you Mary Hazlett: Mael Anita Franco: have uh Mary Hazlett: can Judith Guzman: Yes. Mary Hazlett: you Anita Franco: presently Mary Hazlett: hand Sheryl Freitas over this Anita Franco: uh keys Mary Hazlett: uh? Anita Franco: like one, two, Mary Hazlett: Uh thank you. Anita Franco: three like this, Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: actually, and uh uh four five six like that and uh you can have keys like this in form like uh Sheryl Freitas: Okay. Anita Franco: keys like that Sheryl Freitas: How much longer have we got for the meeting by the way? Mary Hazlett: Mm well I think Sheryl Freitas: 'Cause Anita Franco: Forty Sheryl Freitas: we haven't Anita Franco: minutes? Sheryl Freitas: talked about demographic at all and it's Mary Hazlett: fi Sheryl Freitas: a very Mary Hazlett: five Sheryl Freitas: important Mary Hazlett: min Sheryl Freitas: issue. Anita Franco: Yeah Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: so you you you can have uh keys like uh which are which are like so. too sorry, so we basically don't change the uh original order of them but then the keys are more spacious, Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: they don't look uh so there there is a very sligh thing, so if you press on the top it Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: takes the one, it takes the three, uh four, sorry four here uh five and six, Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: so the keys can be it looks you know not very much cluttered Judith Guzman: Mm-hmm. Anita Franco: but it looks nice for you Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: don't have too many keys but you can have a lot Mary Hazlett: Okay. Anita Franco: of options t if you Mary Hazlett: 'Kay Anita Franco: press Mary Hazlett: I Anita Franco: on Mary Hazlett: I Anita Franco: the to Mary Hazlett: think now that the idea's Judith Guzman: Yep. Mary Hazlett: clear. Anita Franco: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: Uh we should now uh try to decide um on our target group. Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Which I think is quite tricky. Anita Franco: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: Um, basically we're trying to get people to buy a remote control wouldn't they already have a remote control with their television when they buy one? Mary Hazlett: Of course they have already one. So our our our remote control has to be better. Sheryl Freitas: But Anita Franco: Mm-hmm. Sheryl Freitas: it's not going to have more functionality, 'cause it's only a low market, it's a cheap-end remote control, we can't beat modern functionality, we might we'll be able to beat them on th the look of it, th the design of it but that's not a big seller, if they're not just going to buy a new remote control just 'cause it looks pretty, Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Sheryl Freitas: they have to actually need it as well. So I'm not sure how we can get people to buy this thing. Mary Hazlett: Mm. I well I think many people said uh in your in in your research uh Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: uh uh the appearance of the uh R_C_ is is important when they are buying one Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: but Sheryl Freitas: But why are they buying one in the first place? Mary Hazlett: Indeed. So that will be about functionality Sheryl Freitas: Mm. But if people are buying a new remote control for functionality they'll buy a universal remote. I've got friends who've got so many things they need a universal remote, otherwise they're using five different remotes Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: for their all their Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Sheryl Freitas: things. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Sheryl Freitas: In that case they wouldn't buy our product, because it doesn't give them what they need in terms of functionality. Mary Hazlett: So your you think we should go for a more u universal high-performance Sheryl Freitas: Well, we can't, with the price range. We We're not building a universal remote, Mary Hazlett: What Sheryl Freitas: we're Mary Hazlett: do Sheryl Freitas: not building a high end product. Mary Hazlett: What do you think about Judith Guzman: Yeah Mary Hazlett: What Judith Guzman: we Mary Hazlett: componen Judith Guzman: have yeah twelve point five Euros Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Judith Guzman: uh per uh per R_ s R_C_ and I think uh with this now you know that chips are very uh cheaps Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: and uh we can include it in our control some new new features. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Judith Guzman: Yeah. And Sheryl Freitas: But Judith Guzman: um Sheryl Freitas: yeah. Judith Guzman: But yeah Sheryl Freitas: If Judith Guzman: that's Sheryl Freitas: we're getting into universal remote territory, we're getting to L_C_D_ screens and things like that which would drive the cost up a lot. Mary Hazlett: I Judith Guzman: Ye Mary Hazlett: don't know. I don't know whether that's necessary. Is the L_C_D_ Judith Guzman: I don't Sheryl Freitas: For Judith Guzman: think Mary Hazlett: screen Sheryl Freitas: universal Judith Guzman: L_C_D_ Sheryl Freitas: remotes Judith Guzman: is not necessary well, Sheryl Freitas: If you mm. Mary Hazlett: I think Judith Guzman: th Mary Hazlett: thi Judith Guzman: for long Mary Hazlett: this Judith Guzman: term. Mary Hazlett: could be this could be a market because uh universal remote controls uh tend to be uh quite expensive. Sheryl Freitas: And quite complicated Mary Hazlett: S Sheryl Freitas: to use, yes. Mary Hazlett: so we can try to go in between, and offer a product which is not as expensive and not as Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: complicated Sheryl Freitas: Not as flexible maybe, Judith Guzman: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: yeah, but s Mary Hazlett: but but Sheryl Freitas: yeah. Mary Hazlett: still but still people have the idea this is more functional than a normal uh uh Judith Guzman: Universal. Mary Hazlett: R_C_ because Judith Guzman: Yeah. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: it has more uh it it is in some kind universal. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. But if we're going for the say fifteen to twenty five age group then not many of them would actually own T_V_s to use a remote control on. Mary Hazlett: Mm yes but w we're targeting I think on more on the on the twenty to forty group. Sheryl Freitas: Okay. So they're Mary Hazlett: People Sheryl Freitas: yeah. Mary Hazlett: yes. Who just have or already have a job and have the money Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: but may not want to spend that much money on a Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: on a universal Sheryl Freitas: Yep. Mary Hazlett: universal control. Sheryl Freitas: I don't know really what the the price range for remote controls is. Are we gonna be at the very bottom of the price range, or are we kind of middle to bottom? I don't know. Mary Hazlett: Uh Judith Guzman: Mm. Mary Hazlett: well I think uh when we think it over I thi I think Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: we are trying to offer the a kind of universal control for for less money. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: So d Anita Franco: Well Mary Hazlett: Do you agree? Anita Franco: Well I it's fine with Sheryl Freitas like the price as long as it is uh not too expensive. Judith Guzman: Yeah because Anita Franco: Uh and Judith Guzman: we have Anita Franco: it d Judith Guzman: to Anita Franco: uh Judith Guzman: take into account that Anita Franco: Our Judith Guzman: we are gonna Anita Franco: provin Judith Guzman: b we are gonna sell uh four aro around four million so when we speak about these numbers uh the price of a chip is uh price of a chip is very cheap. Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: Mm. Judith Guzman: So I'm okay for designing um a ne uh less yeah a a kind of universal uh R_C_ Mary Hazlett: Mm-hmm. Judith Guzman: yeah. Mary Hazlett: You think it's possible for the twelve Euro fifty? Judith Guzman: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: Okay. Um so then we we decide on on on going to this more universal kind of control. Anita Franco: Uh yeah, that's that's what we needed basically. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: Mm. Mm. Okay. Anita Franco: Uh that's needed right now. And Judith Guzman: Yeah that's Anita Franco: uh basically Judith Guzman: needed, yeah. Anita Franco: you can look Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Anita Franco: to the standards Judith Guzman: And if Anita Franco: of Judith Guzman: we Anita Franco: other Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Judith Guzman: want to get the market, we really Sheryl Freitas: Yeah. Judith Guzman: need that. Sheryl Freitas: So I Anita Franco: Actu Sheryl Freitas: guess what I'd like from a universal remote is maybe choosing between three devices, being Judith Guzman: Yes. Sheryl Freitas: able to switch between them, there may be stereo, V_C_R_ and T_V_. Anita Franco: Yeah. Judith Guzman: Exactly. Sheryl Freitas: And just be Mary Hazlett: Yes. Sheryl Freitas: able to s use them all from the same remote, but not at the same Anita Franco: Yeah Sheryl Freitas: time. Anita Franco: you can Judith Guzman: Is that Anita Franco: also Judith Guzman: okay for Anita Franco: browse Judith Guzman: you? Yeah. Anita Franco: through all the standards Mary Hazlett: Mm mm Anita Franco: you know, Mary Hazlett: mm mm. Judith Guzman: Yeah. Anita Franco: where are the limit of standards for all of them and you can just browse through them. Judith Guzman: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: So given we are going for this uh uh universal type uh m maybe it is good when you try to find out which components you therefore need and Judith Guzman: Yes. Mary Hazlett: y you will Sheryl Freitas: Mm. Mary Hazlett: try to get more specific uh user interface Anita Franco: Okay. Mary Hazlett: content Anita Franco: Okay. Mary Hazlett: and uh maybe you can look on on what trends are in Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm Mary Hazlett: this uh Sheryl Freitas: yep. Mary Hazlett: in this type of market. Anita Franco: Voila. Hmm. Mary Hazlett: So Anita Franco: So. Mary Hazlett: anyone uh has Anita Franco: Well. Mary Hazlett: a point to bring in or shall Anita Franco: Oh Mary Hazlett: we Anita Franco: I don't Mary Hazlett: no. Anita Franco: have anything right now. We can Judith Guzman: Oh that's that's Mary Hazlett: Okay. Judith Guzman: fine Anita Franco: we'll Judith Guzman: then. Anita Franco: we'll go and we'll I'm sure we'll up something Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: W Anita Franco: good for Mary Hazlett: yes, Anita Franco: the Judith Guzman: Yeah. Mary Hazlett: we uh we can have lunch now. Sheryl Freitas: Mm-hmm. Mary Hazlett: So um Anita Franco: Yeah so we Mary Hazlett: Then Anita Franco: meet in Mary Hazlett: th Anita Franco: well what Mary Hazlett: th Anita Franco: are our Mary Hazlett: the next meeting will uh after lunch you have uh we have uh thirty minutes of work and then we have the next meeting. But you will be informed via the computer. Anita Franco: Okay. Mary Hazlett: Okay. Anita Franco: Cool. Judith Guzman: Okay Anita Franco: So Judith Guzman: perfect. Anita Franco: see you later.

Mary Hazlett opens the meeting and presents the agenda using slides. Sheryl Freitas explains the research she read about, which is a study done on 100 people asking their remote usage habits and preferences. Judith Guzman presents, explaining the basic function of a remote control and how it works. He says they should first agree on the technical functions before he creates working design and chooses the chips and infrared components to build it. The Interface Designer gives his presentation, talking about the remote's technical function of sending a message to the TV set that is decoded by the TV. Standard TV remotes have an on/off button, play, volume change, number keypad, and a 1 or 2 digit option. He suggests that in aiming for the next generation they should have a remote for the TV and video integrated together. Mary Hazlett recieves a message from account manager, which he shares with the group. They discuss and determine the target group as well as the possibility of making a universal remote for stereo, VCR, and TV. They close the meeting with Mary Hazlett telling each group member what they will do before the next meeting.

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Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: Mm-hmm. Ann Brown: So we are here for concept design meeting. So, we will first start by summarizing the mm the previous meeting and the decision we've taken. Uh I will take notes during this meeting so uh that you can uh look at my uh folder to see the summary of this meeting afterwards. So each of you will uh show us the various investigation they've done during uh previous uh hours. We'll then t take decision in concert then uh uh we will uh define the nest next, to have to be done before the next meeting. So, last time we decided to have a simple interface. We also decided to have a wheel to change channel previous channel button. Channel digit uh buttons should be uh protected by plastic cover or something for the remote control to look very simple. We have also button for volume, and to switch on off the T_V_. We have also uh the lightening feature for the remote control to be easy to find, and for fast development and low cost we have decided to have no L_C_D_ no voice features. So now uh we will have three presentations. So the conceptual specification by Industrial Designer, the specification of the U_I_ by or Katherine Demps: Abdul Ann Brown: U_I_ Katherine Demps: al-Hasred is my name. Ann Brown: okay. And uh the last point is uh trend watching by Market Expert. So maybe we can start with uh industrial design. So this is the presentation. Jeanne Charles: Uh, I_D_ you want? Ann Brown: Maybe I can switch slide Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: uh on your request. Jeanne Charles: I v have three slides, so. I just look at the mm um just this. On some web pages Ann Brown: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: to find some documentation and I think a remote control is, as I s mentioned previously, you just have a a very simple chip and the mm the user interface is just done usually by push button and in our case we are using a um a wheel control. Jeanne Charles: standard, and uh I just looked for the wheel sensor and the standard push button. And um yeah we can change directly. Ann Brown: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: In fact I have the number of that element which is very standard for remote control. The push button are usually extremely cheap, but I just have one problem and this is related with the wheel sensor, which seems to be quite expensive. Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: Mm-hmm. Jeanne Charles: And I think we if we could just talk about that if we really need a wheel sensor or if we can not if if we could combine something with the push button. Ann Brown: Okay. Jeanne Charles: Uh Katherine Demps: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: a wheel sensor is fifty time the price of a a a push button. Ann Brown: But Katherine Demps: Mm. Ann Brown: is it a significant price on the whole remote control? Because Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: we can afford up to twelve Euros for the price of the remote control. Jeanne Charles: Yeah I I Ann Brown: So Jeanne Charles: th Ann Brown: will will will this with uh including all possible things, so buttons, wheel and the chip, be uh lower than twelve Euros to produce? Jeanne Charles: But I don't think that uh we should We should talk about uh the Katherine Demps: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: design of the box also which Ann Brown: Okay Jeanne Charles: needs some Katherine Demps: Also Jeanne Charles: money. Katherine Demps: have to Jeanne Charles: But Katherine Demps: say Did you receive the email about the voice recognition? Jeanne Charles: Um that's all Katherine Demps: No? Jeanne Charles: yeah. Ann Brown: You received Jeanne Charles: I haven't Ann Brown: something Jeanne Charles: chec Katherine Demps: Yeah. You we uh an email from the manufacturing division that they have basically a voice recognition chip already developed. Ann Brown: Hmm. Katherine Demps: Says Yeah. It says that ri right now they just use it to uh to record uh answers to particular questions. But I guess Ann Brown: And Katherine Demps: it could Ann Brown: could Katherine Demps: be Ann Brown: it be adapted? Katherine Demps: I guess it's possible. I mean instead of recording the answers you can just uh record uh something simpler like Ann Brown: Okay Katherine Demps: a Ann Brown: and Katherine Demps: command. Ann Brown: there can uh recognize some commands Katherine Demps: Yeah Ann Brown: and stuff? Katherine Demps: you reco recognize commands and you can record new commands and stuff, so if they already Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: have it as uh as a chip Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: then we we could use it. Ann Brown: Okay maybe we can just uh listen to this presentation and then take decision later Katherine Demps: Okay. Jeanne Charles: Mm-hmm. Ann Brown: on according Jeanne Charles: Yeah Ann Brown: to those news. Jeanne Charles: but I think it's yeah Sorry, I haven't written my personal references. Um the I I just want to mention the the problem of the the r wheels sensor which is much more expensive than any push button, Ann Brown: Okay. Jeanne Charles: and if we could reduce that. We Katherine Demps: Mm-hmm. Jeanne Charles: we have already some good things uh with um um with the backlight of the push button. Katherine Demps: I have a question about that actually. Um, what is the purpose of the light? Jeanne Charles: Just to to make something which is uh slightly more design that uh a Katherine Demps: Is Jeanne Charles: squarey box Ann Brown: You can Jeanne Charles: with Ann Brown: easily Jeanne Charles: a rubber Ann Brown: find the button Katherine Demps: But Ann Brown: in the dark or so? Katherine Demps: But in th in the dark uh Yeah but is going to be always turned on, the light? Ann Brown: It will be turned on when the when the user move the remote control I think, no? Katherine Demps: But if you move it then you have it, you don't need to find it. Ann Brown: Hmm. Katherine Demps: You can see the buttons better, of course. Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: Yeah. Ann Brown: Yeah. Yeah. True. Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Actually. Katherine Demps: But if you move it then you have to have some sensor to when you move it to detect your movement. Jeanne Charles: As soon as you thought to move the the remote control you have the light. Katherine Demps: Yeah, but you need another sensor for that, right? Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Again. Katherine Demps: Yeah no it's too expensive. Jeanne Charles: I don't think that this is really expensive, but Katherine Demps: Okay. Jeanne Charles: at the end this is plenty of Katherine Demps: Mm. Jeanne Charles: unexpen eh Katherine Demps: Extra. Jeanne Charles: very cheap Katherine Demps: Yeah, okay. Jeanne Charles: devices but uh Katherine Demps: Mm. Jeanne Charles: the bill starts to be Katherine Demps: Yeah, but I expected also the wheel would be cheap but you tell Carol Golden that it is very expensive so, yeah. Jeanne Charles: First of all I was thinking to have a a continuous light and you w when t you you you you press the on button you have Katherine Demps: Mm. Jeanne Charles: the light on your remote control, when Katherine Demps: Mm-hmm. Jeanne Charles: you want to turn off your device Ann Brown: But it can be uh battery consuming, no? To Jeanne Charles: Yeah, Ann Brown: have Jeanne Charles: a Ann Brown: the light Jeanne Charles: little Ann Brown: always on? Jeanne Charles: bit. A little Katherine Demps: Mm. Jeanne Charles: bit. Ann Brown: Well we will discuss that after maybe Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Katherine Demps: Okay. Ann Brown: the Katherine Demps: So Ann Brown: other presentations. Katherine Demps: uh my one, it uh should be in the shared folder. Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: So. It was last time I saw it. Ann Brown: And it is. Katherine Demps: Okay. So, Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: just move to the next slide. So basically want very simple, right? That's the major idea, as simple Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: as possible. Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: So I just look at some current designs uh on the web, of usually more complicated remote controls. And let's look at two of them because uh th even though they have many buttons they look quite simple. And in our case we just uh reject the buttons what we don't need Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: and it become even simpler. Um. So. Ann Brown: And also does it uh fit well in hand? Because it was uh th Katherine Demps: Yeah. Ann Brown: your wrist problem Katherine Demps: Well this Ann Brown: with the usage. Katherine Demps: these uh these remotes are quite big, so go to the next page, so. We have all these buttons as you can see, but most Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: of them, we just need the ones in the middle. Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: So, from the bottom or whatever is there, Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: uh the uh the numbers and then the top, uh until the ten also, this middle part, Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: and on the left one is exactly the same. So it's basically more or less how we would like it, with a big volume control, big channel control, and mute and power, yeah? Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: These are the basic thing. Ann Brown: So it's only the central part. Katherine Demps: So basically, w software we will build will look more or less the same as these two. Ann Brown: Yeah. With a maybe a more ergonomic design on on the Katherine Demps: Yeah, if you Ann Brown: bottom Katherine Demps: have, for Ann Brown: part. Katherine Demps: example I think that the volume and the buttons that are there on the top are not very easy to reach with your thumb. It Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: could be on the right side, for example. Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: Yeah. Because we don't have these input buttons and this other stuff that they have. And I think that the plastic cover is not very good uh Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: idea because you open it, it can break, you ca you can do various things. Uh Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: you just need Ann Brown: S Katherine Demps: to put the channel numbers somewhere a bit out of the way. Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: So Ann Brown: Will Katherine Demps: that they're separate Ann Brown: be down Katherine Demps: a bit, Ann Brown: or Katherine Demps: yeah. Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: Uh and it's easy to press the other the big buttons, but uh, it's not that difficult to press the the channel buttons either. Mm. Yeah, I think that if you put the cover it will be even more difficult for the user. Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: Alright, you won't yeah. Usually what I have noticed that people put the plastic cover on things that you normally don't mess with, like buttons for t uh tuning the channels and Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: stuff like that. Yeah. That you want to protect a bit. And I think it's uh it's reasonable. Ann Brown: Okay. Katherine Demps: So, I don't think Yeah, this is just the the wheel. We could Ann Brown: Mm. Katherine Demps: use the some wheels can be pushed down, could use the push down of the wheel for the record if we want. Jeanne Charles: Mm-hmm. Katherine Demps: Uh so we could just basically use one just wheel and uh user could use just the wheel to do everything with Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: the channels in that case. Ann Brown: Maybe the wheel will be a good advantage over our competitors. Jeanne Charles: Mm-hmm. Ann Brown: Because otherwise it's pretty standard apart the fact that it's very simple. So maybe it's worse to uh Jeanne Charles: To Ann Brown: to Jeanne Charles: s Ann Brown: have more expense on that's that aspect. Jeanne Charles: Mm-hmm. Katherine Demps: Yeah, I guess the market researcher will tell us all about that. Ann Brown: Okay. So we can move to the Is there any question? For designer of user interface? or we can move to the next part, maybe, and discuss afterwards? Ann Brown: Okay. Carol Golden: Okay, I can go? Can Ann Brown: Yeah. Carol Golden: I? So now the recent investigation we we have done fo of the remote control um. So, the most important aspect for remote controls is to be fancy look and feel and not current functional look and feel. And um the second aspect is uh that the remote control should be uh technological innovative. Ann Brown: Okay. Carol Golden: And the third most important aspect is to to is that the co remote control should be easy to use. about before. Katherine Demps: Mm-hmm. Ann Brown: Yeah. Carol Golden: Yeah. And um so you you can go Ann Brown: Yeah. Carol Golden: after. And there is a fashion watchers in Paris and Milan that have detected the following trends, uh fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes, shoes, and furnitures. So, maybe if our remote control have to be a fruit form or vegetable form something Ann Brown: Okay. Carol Golden: like that, or Jeanne Charles: I support an apple. Carol Golden: And the mm the material is expected to be spongy. Uh I don't know which material can be spongy, Ann Brown: Yeah. Carol Golden: and if you Ann Brown: This is good Katherine Demps: Well, Ann Brown: also Katherine Demps: wou wou Ann Brown: for Katherine Demps: I think we can certainly just put the electronics in a spongy thing, it it Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Katherine Demps: would work, right? Ann Brown: Yeah. Carol Golden: Mm-hmm. Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Katherine Demps: Yeah. Ann Brown: I think it is good also f to have a spongy Katherine Demps: You can throw it to Ann Brown: material, Katherine Demps: the television. Ann Brown: yeah. Yeah, because Carol Golden: Okay Ann Brown: it's Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: robust. Jeanne Charles: Carol Golden too. Carol Golden: It's robust, yeah. Katherine Demps: Hey that's a cool one. We could say that if you throw it, you have a sensor, and you throw it and hits the television and turns it off. When it d uh takes a shock. Ann Brown: Yeah uh Jeanne Charles: Ah Carol Golden: Not good. Ann Brown: sorry? Jeanne Charles: it's okay. I know that they do that for alarm clock Carol Golden: An Jeanne Charles: also. Katherine Demps: Yeah. Carol Golden: and and uh this uh you can yeah you can say that. You ca uh you Ann Brown: No. Carol Golden: can go Ann Brown: Yeah. Carol Golden: uh before, Ann Brown: Before? Carol Golden: before, yes. And you know here the more iz important aspect is the fancy look and feel, Ann Brown: Yeah. Carol Golden: after is uh technological innovative, Ann Brown: Yeah. Carol Golden: and after the easy to Ann Brown: Yeah. Carol Golden: use. Ann Brown: I think it's innovative to use the mm the wheel because I Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: think Carol Golden: Yeah Ann Brown: no one Carol Golden: that's why Ann Brown: else has. Carol Golden: Yeah Ann Brown: Has Carol Golden: that's Ann Brown: it? Carol Golden: why I think we have to keep that if it's possible. Ann Brown: Yeah. I think Jeanne Charles: Mm-hmm. Ann Brown: it's it makes it both easy and both innos innovative. Carol Golden: Innovative. Ann Brown: So Carol Golden: Mm. Ann Brown: I think it's a good aspect and it should Katherine Demps: How Ann Brown: be Katherine Demps: do Ann Brown: kept. Katherine Demps: we make it look cool is the question. Ann Brown: Cool, fancy? Katherine Demps: Yeah. Ann Brown: We have to make it l look like a fruit or vegetable. Carol Golden: Yeah. Ann Brown: Maybe Jeanne Charles: What about Ann Brown: uh Jeanne Charles: um Ann Brown: um Carol Golden: Mm. Ann Brown: a colour that remember Carol Golden: Oh, Ann Brown: some Carol Golden: colour, Ann Brown: fruit Carol Golden: yeah. Ann Brown: uh, things like that. Katherine Demps: Well the obvious thing Carol Golden: Oh i Katherine Demps: is a banana, I guess. Carol Golden: i Ann Brown: Maybe yeah. Carol Golden: I thought about a a pear, for example. You know the pear, is like that and it's it's easy to Ann Brown: Yeah, Carol Golden: to have in in Ann Brown: and Carol Golden: hand Ann Brown: it's ergonomic Carol Golden: and uh Ann Brown: as well. Carol Golden: Yeah. Ann Brown: A pear. Katherine Demps: The banana is also ergonomic. Ann Brown: Yeah. Maybe pear yeah or something like that. Carol Golden: Or a fruit like that. I dunno. Ann Brown: Yeah. We can discuss that uh. D D Is is there anything you want to add? Katherine Demps: Is there any fruit that is spongy? Ann Brown: I don't think so. I think we we can have like yeah a pear is good, fit well, or banana as you told. Katherine Demps: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: And Ann Brown: Something like Jeanne Charles: for Ann Brown: that. Jeanne Charles: maybe look and feel, what about a a piece of ice, with blue L_E_D_ inside? Ann Brown: But that's Katherine Demps: You can Ann Brown: not Katherine Demps: make Ann Brown: in Katherine Demps: it Ann Brown: the trend. Katherine Demps: um Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: The trend is spongy, and vegetable Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: fruits. Katherine Demps: It's not hard, the metal. Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: I Katherine Demps: Plastic. Ann Brown: think p spongy is good because it it will be robust as well. Jeanne Charles: Yep. Ann Brown: So, I think we can keep the wheel because it's Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: uh easy, it's innovative, even if the cost is a bit higher, and we also have to find a, so, a fruit like pear or banana wit uh any others idea you have. What kind of fr fruit would you like to to control your T_V_ with? Katherine Demps: Mm. Ann Brown: Odi Jeanne Charles: Banana I think, it's a nice idea. Ann Brown: Banana is also Jeanne Charles: Because Ann Brown: yellow so you you Jeanne Charles: But Ann Brown: can't lost your remote control Carol Golden: Yeah. Ann Brown: then. Katherine Demps: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: You y you don't use the banana when the Katherine Demps: Two of Jeanne Charles: banana Katherine Demps: the button, Jeanne Charles: is Katherine Demps: yeah. Jeanne Charles: curving like that, but when the banana is curving like that, Katherine Demps: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: with the wheel on the top Katherine Demps: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: and to control, and here you have Carol Golden: But you Jeanne Charles: a Carol Golden: don't Jeanne Charles: a Carol Golden: have Jeanne Charles: push button to Ann Brown: I think Katherine Demps: Yeah so you Ann Brown: it's Katherine Demps: can just Ann Brown: a Katherine Demps: have Ann Brown: good Katherine Demps: uh Ann Brown: idea, yeah. Katherine Demps: just have this curve, yeah, and you move uh your hand here to press the buttons and then you move uh on the other side. Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: So you can Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Katherine Demps: have it on on two sides and it'll be cool, no? Ann Brown: Yeah. then. Maybe we can keep the banana. And it will be very easy to find. Katherine Demps: You Jeanne Charles: And Katherine Demps: can put also Jeanne Charles: everybody Katherine Demps: vibrator Jeanne Charles: knows Katherine Demps: inside. Jeanne Charles: what is a banana. Basically. Carol Golden: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: If you if you start with uh fancy fruits and Katherine Demps: Ah-ha. Jeanne Charles: fra s Katherine Demps: You can Jeanne Charles: and Katherine Demps: also Jeanne Charles: tha Katherine Demps: take into account the fact that the banana fits with the colour scheme of our company. Jeanne Charles: Oh, Ann Brown: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: yeah Katherine Demps: Yeah. Ann Brown: Yeah it's really uh really a good point. Katherine Demps: I hope the students of management die, but anyway. Now who are recording this meeting? Ann Brown: I think it So One second. So we have to take some decision on this aspect. So, uh so for sorry, for uh component, so Jeanne Charles: So Ann Brown: we have to think about those aspects, sorry. Jeanne Charles: So we will just use a a standard battery? Ann Brown: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: And uh the chip we chip imprint we know exactly which one we are going to use. Uh what do you mean by case? Ann Brown: I think it's the box that should be spongy, banana's Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: shape. Jeanne Charles: Uh I mean for Carol Golden if we use a a spongy banana case, doesn't matter. I just want to have so something Katherine Demps: The only th Jeanne Charles: to prin to to fix my Katherine Demps: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: my components onto that box, Katherine Demps: Y Jeanne Charles: and Katherine Demps: Yeah that Jeanne Charles: that's Katherine Demps: can Jeanne Charles: it. Katherine Demps: be in inside th in the Jeanne Charles: Yeah Katherine Demps: structure. Jeanne Charles: yeah. Yeah. Katherine Demps: But uh the thing is that the buttons and the wheel have to be I mean Jeanne Charles: Spongy Katherine Demps: if it's spongy Jeanne Charles: also. Katherine Demps: then the buttons and the wheel have to I mean if it's spongy then it's going to move, right? So, it's going to be bend a lot. So if we try Jeanne Charles: Oh Katherine Demps: to Ann Brown: But Jeanne Charles: no Katherine Demps: push the Jeanne Charles: I think Katherine Demps: buttons, Jeanne Charles: it's Katherine Demps: it Jeanne Charles: possible. Katherine Demps: You think it's Ann Brown: No Katherine Demps: possible? Ann Brown: the button would be In fact it it should be something odd shaped, with Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: a spongy cover. Katherine Demps: Okay. Jeanne Charles: Yeah. This is uh like Katherine Demps: Yeah. Jeanne Charles: the Ann Brown: Okay odd shape with spongy cover. And standard battery okay, a chip imprint, there's no specific problem. So we agree to put the wheel Jeanne Charles: Mm-hmm. Wheel on the top. Button, where do we want some buttons? Katherine Demps: Well, usually hold 'Kay, we want it to be good also for the left-hand users, right? Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Katherine Demps: Uh Ann Brown: So it have to it has to be symmetrical. Katherine Demps: Yeah but okay. Sa let's say that th o It has to be basically you can only take two sides, one on ths this side where is the thumb and the other side where there is uh Jeanne Charles: Yep. Katherine Demps: yeah also the thumb. Jeanne Charles: Yep. Katherine Demps: Basically. Or you could use use this one, but I don't know if it's very comfortable, to use Ann Brown: Yeah Katherine Demps: this one Ann Brown: maybe Katherine Demps: for the Ann Brown: the Katherine Demps: wheel. Ann Brown: thumb is more comfortable. Katherine Demps: This for the wheel and then this for the buttons? Ann Brown: Yeah Katherine Demps: Should Ann Brown: I think Katherine Demps: have Ann Brown: it's Katherine Demps: the Ann Brown: okay Katherine Demps: two sides. Ann Brown: for both right and left. Jeanne Charles: Mm-hmm. Ann Brown: Mm. Katherine Demps: So if the left, we have the op Ann Brown: I think you can turn it this way also. You can Katherine Demps: Wheel Ann Brown: do both with Katherine Demps: Wheel buttons. Ann Brown: both hands. Katherine Demps: Yeah, the problem Ann Brown: I think Katherine Demps: is if Ann Brown: it's Katherine Demps: you have Ann Brown: okay. Katherine Demps: buttons and wheel then when you turn it around, the buttons are on the other side. So you cannot see them. Ann Brown: Well, you Katherine Demps: Yeah. Ann Brown: you will get used to it. And moreover, Katherine Demps: So the buttons have to be here Ann Brown: th Katherine Demps: and the wheel Ann Brown: the button Katherine Demps: has Ann Brown: ar Katherine Demps: to be Ann Brown: are lighted so you you immediately identify the right side, because Katherine Demps: Y Ann Brown: you have light on buttons. Katherine Demps: Yeah I know, but uh if you hold with your left hand, and the wheel is here, and the buttons are here, Ann Brown: Yeah. Katherine Demps: then when you turn it around the buttons will be on the other side. Ann Brown: No you you I think you will use it only on the right or left hand, whether you are righty or lefty. I think for lefty it's okay. I can do this movement, and for righty as well. I think this doesn't change that much. Katherine Demps: Okay. Ann Brown: Yeah? Katherine Demps: Okay. Maybe. Yeah. Ann Brown: So, for interface we said also that we have uh this banana shape with button on the s on the side. And and uh a wheel on the top. Jeanne Charles: Mm-hmm. Katherine Demps: Yeah. Ann Brown: So the colour is yellow. I think it's uh we defined everything according to what we should what the decision we should take, yeah. So maybe we can um we can uh work on those aspects uh until next meeting. So have the final uh look and feel design according to the decision. And have the the user interface design and uh then evaluate the prodyuc the product. That is to say, uh check if it fit the the requirement uh given by the users, but according to uh your presentation it seems to be okay. It seems to be fancy, innovative, and easy to use. Jeanne Charles: Mm-hmm. Ann Brown: So so to prepare the prototype I would suggest that Jeanne Charles and Katherine Demps uh work together. That would uh Jeanne Charles: Yeah. Ann Brown: be better, I think. And uh And so uh you will receive further instruction by emails, as usual. Katherine Demps: Mm-hmm. Ann Brown: So Katherine Demps: Yes master. Ann Brown: do you need to add anything? Katherine Demps: No. Ann Brown: You feel okay? Katherine Demps: Yeah. Ann Brown: You feel uh free to express what you want to say? Katherine Demps: Yeah. Ann Brown: You don't feel too constrained? Katherine Demps: No. Ann Brown: You don't feel free to answer this? Katherine Demps: Maybe you can make uh uh mm okay. Ann Brown: Okay, so Jeanne Charles: Thank you. Ann Brown: See you.

Jeanne Charles presented the functional components that will appear in the prototype, and discussed with the group the high cost of the wheel sensor and the possibility of incorporating speech recognition. Katherine Demps presented existing remote controls to help show the interface of the prototype. He showed how the new design will be more simple and ergonomic than the models he displayed by eliminating extra functions. Carol Golden presented news about trends in fashion and in the market that will be incorporated into the design. A fruit and vegetable theme and spongy materials are popular trends that will be used in the design. The group finalized which features they wanted to integrate into the design. They decided to make the remote shaped like a banana and spongy, to have the buttons lighted, to have a wheel sensor at the top of the device, and to use only a standard chip and battery that would not accomodate speech recognition. Ann Brown instructed Katherine Demps and Jeanne Charles to construct the prototype, and announced that the prototype would be evaluated in the next meeting.

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Heather Teaff: So in last meeting we have discussed the conceptual design and we asked you to prepare a prototype for the for the remote control. So. Patrice Sampson: Okay. Heather Teaff: So let's see the what Patrice Sampson: Yeah, so Heather Teaff: did you prepare. Patrice Sampson: can you go out to the shared folder? Mm the Heather Teaff: Sh Patrice Sampson: shared folder. Heather Teaff: share folder for Patrice Sampson: Yes. Heather Teaff: th your presentation? Patrice Sampson: We have a presentation. Heather Teaff: Because I have here Patrice Sampson: Uh So I got the participant uh three. W uh. Three. It's the final design, yeah. Heather Teaff: Okay just one. Patrice Sampson: S so so I discussed with Kimberly Parker: Mm. Patrice Sampson: Guillaume. Right. Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: And uh so we have and we we are both agreed on some two versions of the prototypes, because we not decided whether we to have an L_C_D_ or not because it's too expensive. So we come up with two versions. One with and one without L_C_D_s. Um but both comes with a charger and then detachable and uh or control module. And detachable big buttons for all people um. So. Kimberly Parker: okay so I'll show you the the two prototypes. Here we have the first one with the beautiful uh L_C_D_ um display. You you can s here. And you can uh just um browse into the the navigation menu by uh joystick Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: joystick-like uh button. You can uh choose the direction and if you just push on it it's considered like Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: a enter function. Patrice Sampson: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Parker: You have on the mm on the side here the microphone for the for the speech recognition. And here the the switch that control if you Heather Teaff: Why Kimberly Parker: want Heather Teaff: you why you you put it in the the side? Kimberly Parker: Well I I I think uh it's Heather Teaff: It's not Kimberly Parker: the Heather Teaff: a good place maybe. Kimberly Parker: Yeah Patrice Sampson: No i i Kimberly Parker: but Patrice Sampson: it's the all around camer uh microphone isn't it. The the microphone picks up Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: the speeches Kelsey Grier: Is it an Patrice Sampson: from Kelsey Grier: only Patrice Sampson: anywhere. Kelsey Grier: a single mic or a microphone array? Kimberly Parker: Well so it's a microphone array. Heather Teaff: Oh it's Kelsey Grier: Mm-hmm. Heather Teaff: very costly, microphone Kimberly Parker: No Heather Teaff: array. Kimberly Parker: it's Patrice Sampson: Yeah Kimberly Parker: just a single microphone, and you I I think uh we we put it here because I think when you when you are browsing your L_C_D_ Kelsey Grier: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: you will be close to well it's better to to to place it here th Patrice Sampson: Yeah Kimberly Parker: than here, Kelsey Grier: Okay. Kimberly Parker: for instance. Patrice Sampson: yeah. Kimberly Parker: And here is a little switch that control if you want the the speaker uh recognition system to um to be on or off. And uh so this remote control comes up with its charger. Heather Teaff: How much does it cost this one? Kimberly Parker: Well this this prototype is um made for about uh well fi Patrice Sampson: For the Kimberly Parker: fi fifteen fifteen dollars Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Heather Teaff: Fifteen dollars? Kimberly Parker: fifteen dollars, but uh well it's Heather Teaff: above Kimberly Parker: not Heather Teaff: it's Kimberly Parker: it's not Heather Teaff: above Kimberly Parker: uh Heather Teaff: the budget. Kimberly Parker: yeah, but uh it's just a prototype and if we uh if we optimises the um the uh voila. Kelsey Grier: The cost would be le reduced. Kimberly Parker: Yeah the and the Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: the production costs we we can achieve Patrice Sampson: Hmm. Kimberly Parker: uh about ten dollars. Heather Teaff: How many b battery is there? Kimberly Parker: How many, excuse Kelsey Grier? Heather Teaff: Battery. Kimberly Parker: Well uh f battery, we use uh Patrice Sampson: Is Kimberly Parker: about Patrice Sampson: it n Kimberly Parker: uh Patrice Sampson: the two A_A_s batteries in Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: it. A_A_ rechargeable batteries. Kimberly Parker: Rechargeable of course, Patrice Sampson: Yeah rechargeable Kimberly Parker: because we have Patrice Sampson: batteries. Kimberly Parker: the charger. Patrice Sampson: We have the charger so Kimberly Parker: Yeah Patrice Sampson: it's no problem. Kimberly Parker: and you just Heather Teaff: So one one battery? Kimberly Parker: On uh yeah one battery. Kelsey Grier: Is that two or one? Heather Teaff: It's kinetic reserve. Patrice Sampson: Actually uh it's a flexible thing. You just n Kelsey Grier: Now Patrice Sampson: uh Kelsey Grier: what is the whole day rating for that? Kimberly Parker: The Kelsey Grier: Whole Kimberly Parker: excuse Kelsey Grier: day's Kimberly Parker: Kelsey Grier? Kelsey Grier: rating. What type of battery? Kimberly Parker: Oh yeah it's just a r uh simple battery a rechargeable uh Patrice Sampson: Yeah Kimberly Parker: if you uh Patrice Sampson: yeah. Kimberly Parker: like it's exist. Kelsey Grier: Something like a two A_, A_ three size batteries? Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: Mm-hmm. Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: So and if you want to charge the battery you just put the remote control like that Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: to plug in the Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: the charger and uh leave it uh alone, Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: it's alright. Then the next time you pick it, oh Patrice Sampson: At Kimberly Parker: it Patrice Sampson: uh Kimberly Parker: works. Patrice Sampson: yeah. I forgot to tell you there is only a single button there, Kimberly Parker: Yeah Patrice Sampson: b this Kimberly Parker: just explain Patrice Sampson: button Kimberly Parker: the button uh Patrice Sampson: yeah alright. Kimberly Parker: Norman. Patrice Sampson: This button is like the mouse is like a joystick, you can move in three hundred and sixty degrees of direction so you can make a turn and it the additi functions associated to all the actions you ma you have a click you have a double click Heather Teaff: Mm. Patrice Sampson: all in a single button. You can move up, down, left, right, or you can do a swing. So a swing to the left, a swing to the right defines other functions. So even though it's a single button, but it is pretty s flexible because of the three hundred and sixty degree movement. Kelsey Grier: And the L_C_D_ is this one, on the Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: remote? Kimberly Parker: Yep. Patrice Sampson: This is the version y that comes with L_C_D_. Kelsey Grier: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: Here I present another version without the L_C_D_. Heather Teaff: I think it's not a good idea because after maybe one or two months Patrice Sampson: Mm. Heather Teaff: of function is getting destroyed. If Patrice Sampson: Uh Heather Teaff: you Patrice Sampson: okay Kimberly Parker: Yeah Patrice Sampson: this is Kimberly Parker: it's Patrice Sampson: new prototype uh. Kimberly Parker: So we have the the second version also with the different uh button configuration. The second version is also simpler, we d uh we had just uh I have to put the microphone also. So basically th it's the Kelsey Grier: Uh-huh Kimberly Parker: same Kelsey Grier: and also Kimberly Parker: uh Kelsey Grier: the switch. Kimberly Parker: yeah. Patrice Sampson: Yeah Kelsey Grier: Okay. Kimberly Parker: Basically Patrice Sampson: yeah. Kimberly Parker: it's the same uh things uh uh as uh I presented before. But here we have uh we have uh four buttons for navigation. Press one button uh acting Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: as a a enter button. So um yeah according to what you said it's more robust to the user. Heather Teaff: Mm-hmm. Kelsey Grier: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Parker: And uh it's also cheaper to produce. We can produce uh such remote control for about uh four dollars. Heather Teaff: No four dollars, it's good. Kelsey Grier: And I think you forgot a point here have an button to find the charger, Patrice Sampson: Oh no th Kelsey Grier: because that's Patrice Sampson: actually Kelsey Grier: a major Patrice Sampson: th Kelsey Grier: that's Kimberly Parker: Yeah Patrice Sampson: we'll Kelsey Grier: a Patrice Sampson: come Kimberly Parker: it's Patrice Sampson: to that Kimberly Parker: it's Patrice Sampson: point in Kimberly Parker: it's Patrice Sampson: our Kimberly Parker: embed in the Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: uh speech recognition system. Kelsey Grier: Okay and Kimberly Parker: So Kelsey Grier: if you disable speech recognition system then? Patrice Sampson: W w I'll I'll come to that point later Kelsey Grier: Mm Patrice Sampson: on. Kelsey Grier: hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm. Kimberly Parker: so Norman will explain to you. Heather Teaff: And Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Heather Teaff: we Kelsey Grier: Okay. Heather Teaff: will we will serve the charger with this? Kimberly Parker: Yeah yeah Patrice Sampson: Th they Heather Teaff: With Kimberly Parker: of course Heather Teaff: the remote control. Kimberly Parker: mm. Patrice Sampson: either these with the uh the the charger any in either versions you they they ha they use the same charger Heather Teaff: Okay Patrice Sampson: yeah. Heather Teaff: so the price of the charger included in the Patrice Sampson: Uh it's a standard module so you should get it for a cheap price uh. Kimberly Parker: Thank thank you. Heather Teaff: Mm-hmm. Kimberly Parker: And so Patrice Sampson: It's that Kimberly Parker: mm-hmm. Patrice Sampson: same charger that you can use for the hand-phone but uh again depends on the types. I think we have to investigate more on that, but Heather Teaff: The price should be below twelve Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Heather Teaff: and a half Euro. Patrice Sampson: Yeah Heather Teaff: Well Patrice Sampson: but Heather Teaff: that's Patrice Sampson: as the Marketing Heather Teaff: so Patrice Sampson: Manager says, people is willing to people are willing to pay more for good design. Kelsey Grier: Yeah people Heather Teaff: We Kelsey Grier: are willing Heather Teaff: have Kelsey Grier: to Heather Teaff: we Kelsey Grier: pay more, Heather Teaff: have just Kelsey Grier: but the company is not willing to invest more Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Heather Teaff: The price Kelsey Grier: at the Heather Teaff: of Kelsey Grier: moment. Heather Teaff: selling is twenty Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Heather Teaff: five Euros. Patrice Sampson: Mm-hmm. Heather Teaff: And the price of Kimberly Parker: Alright Heather Teaff: production Kimberly Parker: please uh go on Norman with the special Kelsey Grier: Or Kimberly Parker: features. Kelsey Grier: uh Patrice Sampson: Yeah we'll we'll come up to that, the the the thing that makes this the controller cheap is that it is modular so you want more function you pay more. If you want less function i i if you want a reasonable price you pay for the functions that you add on to the system, so is uh modular. Heather Teaff: That's for this basis function and if you want more you pay Patrice Sampson: Yeah Heather Teaff: more. Patrice Sampson: yeah, Kelsey Grier: Something Patrice Sampson: for example Kelsey Grier: like Patrice Sampson: the L_C_D_, Kelsey Grier: customised. Patrice Sampson: you can take it Kelsey Grier: Yeah Patrice Sampson: you can put Heather Teaff: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: it put it back in, or you can use the other one, or the speech recogniser with the microphone yeah yeah. You want a microphone to put in the Heather Teaff: Okay. Patrice Sampson: speech recogniser you don't wan you pay less for the system you see. Kelsey Grier: Mm hmm hmm hmm. Patrice Sampson: So Kelsey Grier: Hmm okay. Patrice Sampson: It's pretty flexible in the yeah Kimberly Parker: You also Patrice Sampson: price. Kimberly Parker: have the Heather Teaff: But Kimberly Parker: the the two other modules for the parental control Patrice Sampson: Uh yeah yeah you should Kelsey Grier: And Kimberly Parker: that Patrice Sampson: present Kelsey Grier: this Kimberly Parker: that Patrice Sampson: that. Kelsey Grier: is Kimberly Parker: you ca Kelsey Grier: other one? Kimberly Parker: you can add up to the to your remote control i i if you uh if you want to to have more more power on what you do, Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: and uh which channel you want to choose and so on. H here is just the the the module for the kids and th if the parents want Kelsey Grier: Mm Kimberly Parker: to Kelsey Grier: hmm hmm Kimberly Parker: watch Kelsey Grier: hmm. Kimberly Parker: T_V_, up they come up with their modules, they just plug in it Patrice Sampson: Yeah Kimberly Parker: and they can have all the control they want here. Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: We also have this module for uh old people Patrice Sampson: Hmm. Kimberly Parker: with big buttons, clearly labelled, and it acts like the previous Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: one, you just plug in and it works. Kelsey Grier: Mm-hmm. Patrice Sampson: Yeah the i the idea the the conceptual idea is that simplicity and powerful. Simplicity meaning that we have few buttons, powerful is that all the controls with the one you saw we saw earlier in the meetings with lots of buttons n but here you only have few buttons but you retain the mm the same powerful functionalities. But in addition with simplicity. So that's the best idea, the cond that that's our uh an innovation um uh i in this uh design here. Heather Teaff: Mm-hmm. Patrice Sampson: Okay now we come to other important features that I did not tell you. The first one is the speech recogniser, again it's detachable or add-on. And then we also have security feature for example this here oop it's very robust, it doesn't break and the material, what's the material Kimberly Parker: The Patrice Sampson: again? Kimberly Parker: titanium and Heather Teaff: Titanium. Kimberly Parker: so it's very uh Patrice Sampson: Again uh and the battery life is uh is an is an endurable one, again because this is A_A_ batteries you can choose the types of battery you want. Kelsey Grier: Yeah that's fine. Patrice Sampson: Lithium-ion may be a good one, but you can replace it with cheaper one, again you pay for what you get, and then um y the other p points are robust and misplacement reminder. So when you finish watching your T_V_ and you the you t you turn off the T_V_, uh and then there's this message coming out that uh please put that back to the charger, Kelsey Grier: Okay. Patrice Sampson: so that's the or is it that's the reminder part. Yeah and um And it also use a programmable channel and vocabulary, so we didn't define the vocabulary so it's up to the user to define Kelsey Grier: Mm hmm hmm hmm. Patrice Sampson: so sorry? And then uh because of the chil because children are using the device so we have also a a of T_V_ programmes by genre, and this can be used by the adult or by the children. So instead of choosing the channel you are choosing the T_V_ contents of the night. So it's pretty powerful, and that's that's why the num buttons are reduced, because of this feature. Yeah. And and for the materials that is cheap to produce I think uh it's quite clear from yeah. And also like the and the fancy designs yeah. Maybe we can Heather Teaff: What Patrice Sampson: improve Heather Teaff: what's Patrice Sampson: more on the design Heather Teaff: Maybe yeah. What's Patrice Sampson: but Heather Teaff: the price to p to produce? Patrice Sampson: uh this is the Kimberly Parker: Well so the price to produce For uh the simplest one, say we start from four dollars to produce such a device. Uh it's Heather Teaff: With Kimberly Parker: about Heather Teaff: with Kimberly Parker: it Heather Teaff: with the Kimberly Parker: The Kelsey Grier: With the Heather Teaff: charge? Kelsey Grier: charger? Kimberly Parker: without without the charger Heather Teaff: Okay. Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: it's about uh well two dollars to produce uh the microphone and speech recognition systems. Two dollars for the uh for the add-on modules, and finally three dollars for the charger. So if you uh sum up uh everything Heather Teaff: We don't have charger. Kimberly Parker: wi with the L_C_D_, which costs two dollar, you have two plus four plus four plus two plus two. It's Kelsey Grier: I think Kimberly Parker: about Kelsey Grier: we can use Excel. Heather Teaff: We don't have all the options. Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: so the total Heather Teaff: Charger Kimberly Parker: cost if Heather Teaff: we Kimberly Parker: you Heather Teaff: don't have Kimberly Parker: if Heather Teaff: charger Kimberly Parker: you want Heather Teaff: here Kimberly Parker: all the Heather Teaff: either. Kimberly Parker: fuct functionalities will be about uh fifteen dollars. Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Heather Teaff: No it's Kimberly Parker: But it's just if you want all functionalities. Heather Teaff: it's below the the the budget. Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: Excuse Kelsey Grier? Heather Teaff: It's below the bu the budget. Kelsey Grier: Yeah it's a nice Heather Teaff: We Kelsey Grier: input but we have an other inputs from the l public demands. I think we will just have a rough look and then we can make our statements, and we can finalise the product based Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: on this discu Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: I think we can just go to my presentation then. We can wind up. Or we could uh come to some f uh final conclusions. Kelsey Grier: So the marketing made an evaluation criteria and these were some of the findings, and uh in the market the people are not really interested with L_C_D_, without L_C_D_, with speech recognition interface, or without speech recognition interface, but most of the people what they are interested is first thing is, they want to have an fancy look and feel, it should be very fancy with colourful and uh very handy to hold. And Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: the second thing is it should be much more technologically innovative. Of course in that we could put L_C_D_ or recognition to be more technologically innovative. And the third one is easy to use. Kimberly Parker: Well Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: I think that the technical in innovation is is in the product itself since we haven't yet a remote who are allowing to to choose interactively with the T_V_ screen uh uh with just four buttons. Kelsey Grier: Okay and if we go to the next slide, here you can find these are the latest fashion updates, and so this in Paris and Milan they have detected this trends that the this year it's going to be an year of fruit and vegetable, so people are really interested Patrice Sampson: Spongy Kelsey Grier: to see if Patrice Sampson: spongy. Kelsey Grier: they have an remote in the shape of the fruit or a vegetable, or Patrice Sampson: Mm Kelsey Grier: whatever they like. Patrice Sampson: mm. Kelsey Grier: So I think it should be much more customised Patrice Sampson: Mm Kelsey Grier: to make a different Patrice Sampson: mm. Kelsey Grier: uh shapes. And the second thing is, and if the material, they really do not want it to be very hard, as in the case of very pl plastic or titanium, it should be somewhat spongy. Kimberly Parker: Okay. Patrice Sampson: But the the problem is that uh is it robust to mishandling? Kelsey Grier: Um. Patrice Sampson: We have you should find a material that is robust at the same time spongy. Kimberly Parker: A Kelsey Grier: Yeah Kimberly Parker: sponge. Kelsey Grier: so Patrice Sampson: Spongy. Kelsey Grier: uh so finally we have these three criterias. One is fancy look, second is innovative, and third is easy to use. So these are the f uh three criteria on which we are going to build our remote. Patrice Sampson: Mm-hmm. Kelsey Grier: So Kimberly Parker: Hmm. Kelsey Grier: and we have an evaluation criteria for each one of these, say that we have a seven point scale, from one to seven, Patrice Sampson: Mm-hmm. Kelsey Grier: and for each of the product you could just give Kelsey Grier the scale according to this. Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: So now you have with L_C_D_ and without L_C_D_, so Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: on this scale, if it is true, if it is if it has a fancy look you could just tell Kelsey Grier one, or if it is false, it doesn't it looks uh it doesn't look much fancy, then you could just tell Kelsey Grier seven. So Patrice Sampson: So Kelsey Grier: We can make our study on this and Patrice Sampson: so is the e evaluation depending on us or other users? Kelsey Grier: No no we have you have designed two products now, Heather Teaff: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: one is with L_C_D_ and without Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: L_C_D_. Patrice Sampson: But who will give the scoring uh we ourself or Heather Teaff: You. Kelsey Grier: According Patrice Sampson: or a Kelsey Grier: to Patrice Sampson: third party? Kelsey Grier: you, no according to you designers, how will feel does it uh with Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: L_C_D_ and without L_C_D_? Okay let us make this L_ and without L_C_D_. On on this scale the L_C_D_ Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: remote control. How do Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: you look how does it look? D is it very fancy or doesn't look much fancy? Kimberly Parker: Well it doesn't look much fancy I'll I'll say three or four. Kelsey Grier: And you both agree for that? Heather Teaff: And you? Patrice Sampson: I think we can improve on the design. Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: Som Kimberly Parker: It's it Patrice Sampson: someone Kimberly Parker: it Patrice Sampson: um commented this is like a the stone age uh design. Um we have been focused all all this time on the Kimberly Parker: Technical Patrice Sampson: on the technical Kimberly Parker: aspects. Patrice Sampson: aspect, functional aspect, but also the simplicity. Heather Teaff: Mm-hmm. Patrice Sampson: As for the design maybe we c should hire a designer Kelsey Grier: So I take Patrice Sampson: to Kelsey Grier: three on Patrice Sampson: help. Kimberly Parker: Yeah Kelsey Grier: with Kimberly Parker: a three. Kelsey Grier: L_C_D_? So without Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: L_C_D_ how would you rate it? Kimberly Parker: Uh four. Kelsey Grier: Four. Kimberly Parker: I think it's it's uh more easy to make f fancy things when it's not complicated Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Yeah. Kelsey Grier: And in the sense of innovativeness, with L_C_D_. Kimberly Parker: Well it's it's the same for both so I will give a five, six. Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: Five with L_C_D_ and Kimberly Parker: Well five also uh Patrice Sampson: Yeah Kimberly Parker: Norman please. Heather Teaff: Uh Patrice Sampson: from the innovation aspect I feel that uh what is most innovative of our prototype compared to the existing prototypes that we saw l in the last meeting is that um the retrieval of T_V_ programmes by content, because uh that is really innovative, and for now and another innovation we have is simplicity and simplicity, few buttons, we've uh Kimberly Parker: With lot of functionalities. Patrice Sampson: A lot of functionalities. Kelsey Grier: So Patrice Sampson: So Kelsey Grier: without Patrice Sampson: that is Kelsey Grier: L_C_D_? Patrice Sampson: uh that is uh for both th Our gi I think that the our our product is uh has the best in all well this is a biased judgement Kelsey Grier: No Patrice Sampson: because Kelsey Grier: no according Patrice Sampson: we designed Kelsey Grier: to design Patrice Sampson: them. Kelsey Grier: aspect we want to know how Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: would you feel the innovativeness? Patrice Sampson: Uh the innovation is v is very high I think. Kelsey Grier: With Heather Teaff: For Kelsey Grier: L_C_D_. Heather Teaff: L_C_D_. Kelsey Grier: And without Patrice Sampson: Both. Kelsey Grier: L_C_D_? Kimberly Parker: Mm for both it's Patrice Sampson: For both. Kimberly Parker: the the same innovations. Patrice Sampson: It's the same innovation. Kelsey Grier: Okay. Patrice Sampson: So maybe I can put six to seven. Kimberly Parker: six, let's Heather Teaff: Without Kimberly Parker: go for Heather Teaff: L_C_D_. Kimberly Parker: six. Patrice Sampson: Both. Kelsey Grier: No actually uh to make it with L_C_D_ you make more efforts. So I there is high innovativeness included if you make it with L_C_D_ Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: y then when it is without L_C_D_ Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: there is not much Heather Teaff: Uh no Kelsey Grier: innovativeness. Heather Teaff: innovative yeah. Kelsey Grier: So Patrice Sampson: Uh Kelsey Grier: we Patrice Sampson: uh Kelsey Grier: can't Patrice Sampson: uh Kelsey Grier: go Patrice Sampson: there w there was a there was a issue here is that what are what is the display on the L_C_D_? We haven't really uh Kimberly Parker: Talk Kelsey Grier: I mean Patrice Sampson: determined Kimberly Parker: about Kelsey Grier: that what you are sayin that's Patrice Sampson: what Kelsey Grier: what the Patrice Sampson: are actually Kelsey Grier: design Patrice Sampson: actually it's good to have a L_C_D_ but what are we gonna display on a L_C_D_? Kelsey Grier: No it's like this, I mean on the L_C_D_, according to what I understand from your model is, Heather Teaff: So let's remove Kelsey Grier: you Heather Teaff: it. Kelsey Grier: have a joystick here, Patrice Sampson: Yeah? Kelsey Grier: and you have L_C_D_, Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: you just press your joystick, you get here a programme. Patrice Sampson: Yeah but Kimberly Parker: Yeah Kelsey Grier: Uh Kimberly Parker: but Kelsey Grier: then Kimberly Parker: you have Heather Teaff: But Kimberly Parker: the same programme on the T_V_ screen. Patrice Sampson: Yes exactly. Heather Teaff: This is the problem. Kelsey Grier: No on the T_V_ you don't it doesn't display on the T_V_ now. Kimberly Parker: If you have the L_C_D_, Kelsey Grier: L_C_D_? Kimberly Parker: but if n Kelsey Grier: Then uh there is no meaning in having it on the T_V_. Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: a channels, volume and all the stuff Patrice Sampson: But Kelsey Grier: and what Patrice Sampson: you cannot Kelsey Grier: a Patrice Sampson: display all on a L_C_D_. Kelsey Grier: I mean that depends upon your design, so Patrice Sampson: Anyway for for the users who who who opt for L_C_D_ Kelsey Grier: I mean Patrice Sampson: we'll give them the give them the L_C_D_, we give what the customer uh wants, right. Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: So without L_C_D_ you want to put it fi the same level of innovativeness? And which do you recommend e easy to use, with L_C_D_ or without L_C_D_? Kimberly Parker: Well I think both are really easy to use because there are few button buttons, Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: and uh well t p the menu are clear, Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: well-organised, so Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: Well with little knowing of the technology you can you can easily use the product so I will give a six for the easy Patrice Sampson: Yeah Kimberly Parker: to use. Patrice Sampson: I think sorry. Heather Teaff: No it's just if I I see the the f the rate I think it's better to do it without L_C_D_. Because Kelsey Grier: Yeah. Heather Teaff: that's with L_C_D_ just will increase the price, and I thi i they have the same rate so Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Heather Teaff: without L_C_D_ Kelsey Grier: Or we can Heather Teaff: it Kelsey Grier: just Heather Teaff: will be Kelsey Grier: go back to the previous slide uh where we ha we have a few updates. So I mean in the product design you could just amend it to make some few changes Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: according to fruit and Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: vegetable or a spongy touch Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: without L_C_D_ and without speech recognition. Even then our product is going to be Kimberly Parker: Yeah, it's Kelsey Grier: very Kimberly Parker: cheaper Kelsey Grier: good. Kimberly Parker: to produce. Kelsey Grier: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: Mm. S Kimberly Parker: And uh if the the well if we have less technology we have more liberty to uh Kelsey Grier: Yeah Kimberly Parker: for Kelsey Grier: that's Kimberly Parker: the shape Kelsey Grier: right. Kimberly Parker: and uh things like that so Patrice Sampson: Yeah. I have another thing to say about the easy to use aspect. I think the easy to use uh aspect is different for different people. Kimberly Parker: Yep. Patrice Sampson: For the Heather Teaff: Mm-hmm. Patrice Sampson: young generation easy to use may be very complicated because uh they w they wants lot of controls with lots of buttons. For kids they want simply the s similarit Kelsey Grier: Yeah Patrice Sampson: for Kelsey Grier: yeah Patrice Sampson: the old Kelsey Grier: that's Patrice Sampson: people Kelsey Grier: right. Patrice Sampson: they want simplicity, so that's why we have the parental module. Uh we can ha have build a more complex design if if they want it, but but uh what I'm trying to say here is that the um we have different sets of buttons for different kinds of people. So in terms of easy to use I think it's very user customisable. User customisation is very important yeah. Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: Yeah so Kelsey Grier: So without Kimberly Parker: Six. Kelsey Grier: L_C_D_ I just take it five? Heather Teaff: Mm-hmm. Patrice Sampson: W Kelsey Grier: Or Patrice Sampson: uh Kelsey Grier: you want it to be six? Kimberly Parker: Um six. Patrice Sampson: I think it's the same. Yeah. Kimberly Parker: Yes as you say, with better uh Heather Teaff: Without Kelsey Grier: S s Heather Teaff: L_C_D_. Kelsey Grier: oh Kimberly Parker: yeah. Kelsey Grier: I think it's better to have this without L_C_D_. Kimberly Parker: And to improve the Kelsey Grier: As our Kimberly Parker: the Kelsey Grier: Programme Kimberly Parker: look. Kelsey Grier: Manager s Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: Pro Project Manager says that without L_C_D_ it is going to reduce the cost also, Heather Teaff: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: and Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: it's going to be much Kimberly Parker: Yes Kelsey Grier: simpler Kimberly Parker: and to Kelsey Grier: to Kimberly Parker: give Kelsey Grier: use. Kimberly Parker: us more liberty to have a fancy look so Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: so let's go back to our laboratory and Kelsey Grier: So. Heather Teaff: What Patrice Sampson: To improve Heather Teaff: a what Patrice Sampson: on Heather Teaff: what Patrice Sampson: the design. Heather Teaff: about the sys speech recognition? Patrice Sampson: Huh? Heather Teaff: what about the integration of Patrice Sampson: The Heather Teaff: speech Patrice Sampson: speech recogniser Heather Teaff: recognition? Patrice Sampson: is a add-on module. Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: Right? Kelsey Grier: That's going to be an optional. If somebody wants to buy it they can have it, otherwise Heather Teaff: Ah Kelsey Grier: no. Heather Teaff: so it's optional Kelsey Grier: It's Heather Teaff: with Kelsey Grier: an Heather Teaff: the Kelsey Grier: optional. Heather Teaff: okay. Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: It's optional yeah, since well according to this study uh people more Heather Teaff: I think Kimberly Parker: likes Heather Teaff: it will Kimberly Parker: more Heather Teaff: be I Kimberly Parker: to have Heather Teaff: think Kimberly Parker: a spongy Heather Teaff: i Kimberly Parker: uh remote Kelsey Grier: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: control than Heather Teaff: I think it will be better if we have all these modules in the same remote control, because maybe parents will Kelsey Grier: Yeah, but Heather Teaff: lose Kelsey Grier: I mean Heather Teaff: these Kelsey Grier: if you have Heather Teaff: uh Kelsey Grier: an add-ons, the kids may just uh hide the parental module Heather Teaff: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: and Heather Teaff: Or Kelsey Grier: so Heather Teaff: ma Kelsey Grier: that their Heather Teaff: yeah. Kelsey Grier: parents can't Heather Teaff: Or Kelsey Grier: use Heather Teaff: maybe Kelsey Grier: it. Heather Teaff: parents they can for forget where they put it or, so mayb better if you have all this in the same Kelsey Grier: In the same set, yeah, Patrice Sampson: Oh. Kelsey Grier: and and individual buttons to make them work. Heather Teaff: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: The problem is if i we are bla if a customer wants a certain component, and doesn't want the parental control because it's a couple who do not have children when you sell the product in the market you could meet any kind of people, and not all people will need all the functionalities we propose to them. So we might lose the customer because of this. I don't know, what do you Heather Teaff: So Patrice Sampson: think Heather Teaff: you mean that Patrice Sampson: uh? Heather Teaff: even if these modules will be will be functional uh will be optional. Patrice Sampson: Yes exa what do you think, I don't know. You are Marketing Kelsey Grier: I mean Heather Teaff: Uh Kelsey Grier: how Patrice Sampson: Manag. Kelsey Grier: to how to how to make a marketing survey that Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: uh how many married couple or how many couples have a T_V_ or to the number or singles who have a television. Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: So based on that I think Patrice Sampson: Yeah. But the the question is n does those modularity increase the production cost or decrease the production cost? Heather Teaff: I think it inc increase. Kimberly Parker: if Well you can if you had Heather Teaff: I Kimberly Parker: uh Heather Teaff: think it Kimberly Parker: something Heather Teaff: i increases. Kimberly Parker: li Oh no, because if you if you add uh something well yeah maybe because it's three different pieces uh Heather Teaff: Hmm. Kimberly Parker: to to to build but Kelsey Grier: But you can make it on a single P_C_ with three different options. Kimberly Parker: Yeah yeah yeah it's I think it's cheaper if you Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: if you already built the all the functionalities um Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: on the same module, but uh Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: On the same P_C_B_ Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Kelsey Grier: yeah Patrice Sampson: Well Kelsey Grier: yeah. Patrice Sampson: well the other aspect is that if in the when they have the ar existing product you you gonna maintain the the you're gonna keep the same customer, because the same customer will come back to buy other add-ons. Kelsey Grier: Yeah that's right. Patrice Sampson: So Kelsey Grier: I mean you could Patrice Sampson: so Kelsey Grier: just provide with an optional. Patrice Sampson: Yeah i i so if don't don't buy now they can buy i in the future. So in in that way you're actually keeping the cus the same customer, attracting them to come back in again and again. Kelsey Grier: So it's something like a Microsoft product Patrice Sampson: We're Heather Teaff: And Patrice Sampson: not Kelsey Grier: update. Patrice Sampson: trying to follow Heather Teaff: and we Patrice Sampson: the Microsoft Heather Teaff: we we we we we don't want that. Patrice Sampson: and we don't want to the m Kelsey Grier: Updates and we sell it. We make updates and sell it. Patrice Sampson: Yeah well if the buyers can be up the th would be can be upgraded, it would be a good thing right? Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: Yeah, it depends on the Kelsey Grier: And uh what's the idea about uh Patrice Sampson: v Kelsey Grier: the shape of Patrice Sampson: production. Kelsey Grier: the remote controls? Uh Kimberly Parker: Well Kelsey Grier: can Kimberly Parker: so Kelsey Grier: they be made into a fruit and vegetable Kimberly Parker: Yeah Kelsey Grier: types? Kimberly Parker: yeah Kelsey Grier: Do you require different Kimberly Parker: I think Kelsey Grier: types Kimberly Parker: we are Kelsey Grier: of P_C_B_s and Kimberly Parker: yeah but we are also the um well the components will have to change because uh we have to deal with the shape and um but Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: I don't think it will uh increase the cost too much so Kelsey Grier: Or uh it could be like this the P_C_B_ would be the same for all, but only the exterior uh Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: shape is different o for all. Kimberly Parker: Uh well but it's a bit complicated to if if if you need machines to different machines to Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: um ah well Patrice Sampson: What we can change is to propose the customers with skins. For example the i the mobile phones nowaday, Kelsey Grier: Yeah, yeah that's Patrice Sampson: they sell Kelsey Grier: right. Patrice Sampson: different kinds of skin and then people just feel that oh I have a new skin and looks better. Kimberly Parker: Yeah yeah we can have the same Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: global shape and then uh Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: add on Kelsey Grier: Yeah that's Kimberly Parker: skins Kelsey Grier: right. Kimberly Parker: and Patrice Sampson: Yeah. Kimberly Parker: with with this uh tex spongy texture uh things Patrice Sampson: Yeah Kimberly Parker: like that. Patrice Sampson: you can pl in what material would that be in uh? Kimberly Parker: Sponge. Kelsey Grier: I think you need to look into the material. Patrice Sampson: Yeah or furry like a pet dog kind of thing. Kelsey Grier: Yeah yeah. Kimberly Parker: Okay. Heather Teaff: So Kimberly Parker: So we finished the prototype uh presentation if you have uh something else to say. Kelsey Grier: I think Heather Teaff would be interested to look about the financial issues in making these models. Heather Teaff: Project evaluation project satisfaction, for example. I don't know, we have to ask these question. We have to give answers so Patrice Sampson: I suppose that you this criteria, is it? Heather Teaff: Project evaluation. Patrice Sampson: Room for creativity. This room is a bit small, but but I think it's okay for us to work with. Kelsey Grier: I feel it's fine, we know we don't need uh I think it's okay. Patrice Sampson: Yeah mm. Kimberly Parker: That Kelsey Grier: This is Kimberly Parker: was Kelsey Grier: fine Kimberly Parker: good. Kelsey Grier: for making a presentat Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kelsey Grier: for project presentations. Patrice Sampson: Yeah Kimberly Parker: Yeah. Patrice Sampson: anyway we have the laboratory nearby to build our modules so it's okay. Heather Teaff: Mm-hmm. Kelsey Grier: And the leadership was excellent. Heather Teaff: Yeah I think so. Patrice Sampson: Good job Kimberly Parker: Fine yes uh. Patrice Sampson: good Heather Teaff: He gave you the liberty to talk Patrice Sampson: job. Kelsey Grier: Yeah Heather Teaff: as Kelsey Grier: that's Heather Teaff: you Kelsey Grier: right. Heather Teaff: wants. Kelsey Grier: Yeah that's right. Heather Teaff: Uh the teamwork was very very good. Kimberly Parker: Very democratic. Heather Teaff: I was really I am very satisfying to work with with Kimberly Parker: Thank Heather Teaff: you. Kimberly Parker: you. Patrice Sampson: Thank you. Heather Teaff: Oh. Kimberly Parker: Alright. Patrice Sampson: Alright. Kelsey Grier: And new ideas found. Any new ideas to make these presentations more interactive and more interesting? Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: Come up with new product. Kelsey Grier: I mean uh what type of product would you think could we make this more interesting? Heather Teaff: Less fancy. Patrice Sampson: Mm we I I know something, we need more cakes, more biscuits on the table while we have meetings. Kimberly Parker: Yeah and also more well uh more seriously I think it's Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: it's a good idea to have uh clear clear points whenever we do a meeting uh prior to the meeting to have uh well a list with the points who will be discussed or things like that, but I think it's alright. We achieved uh project goal I Kelsey Grier: Yeah Kimberly Parker: think. Kelsey Grier: that is within Heather Teaff: De Kelsey Grier: the budget. Patrice Sampson: Mm. Kimberly Parker: It's w yes, Kelsey Grier: And the evaluation Kimberly Parker: more Heather Teaff: Without Kimberly Parker: or less. Kelsey Grier: was Heather Teaff: without L_C_D_, without speech recognition, Kelsey Grier: Yeah that's Kimberly Parker: Yeah Kelsey Grier: right. Kimberly Parker: but Heather Teaff: it will be simple. Kimberly Parker: Alright. Kelsey Grier: And the next Kimberly Parker: So. Kelsey Grier: is celebration. So Kimberly Parker: So uh coffee machine. Heather Teaff: Yeah free free coffee. Kimberly Parker: Okay. Patrice Sampson: Alright then, we finished? Heather Teaff: Yeah Kelsey Grier: Yeah Heather Teaff: thank Patrice Sampson: Thank Kelsey Grier: thank Heather Teaff: you Patrice Sampson: you Heather Teaff: for Patrice Sampson: very Kelsey Grier: you, Heather Teaff: your Kelsey Grier: thank Patrice Sampson: much. Kelsey Grier: you very much. Heather Teaff: work and

Patrice Sampson and Kimberly Parker presented two prototypes, one with an LCD screen and one without. They demonstrated how to navigate through the menus and presented the voice recognition and energy source components and the charging stand. They discussed their modular design. They discussed the parental control module and the titanium casing. The production costs were below budget for the basic models. Kelsey Grier presented three important user requirements, and also the fruit and vegetable and spongy material trends in fashion. He then led an evaluation of the prototypes according to these requirements. The group did not feel that the remotes sufficiently met the criteria. They decided to continue working on the design and to take out the LCD screen and voice recognition. They discussed the modular design and its advantages in attracting customers. The group discussed how to incorporate the fashion trends; it was suggested that one shape was used, which could be customized with skins. Heather Teaff led an evaluation of the group's experience on the project. The group was pleased with the teamwork and leadership, but one participant complained that not enough information was given about each meeting's agenda.

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Esperanza Stevenson: I'm Emily Krupa: Welcome Esperanza Stevenson: sorry Emily Krupa: back. Esperanza Stevenson: to be late. Emily Krupa: Welcome back everybody. Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Thanks. Emily Krupa: So this meeting agenda will be the detailed design meeting. And uh opening and uh P_M_s of the meet minutes, uh prototype presentation from uh Christine and uh Agnes. Esperanza Stevenson: Agnes, yes. Emily Krupa: Yes and uh evaluation criteria. The finance, it's uh from my side, from the management, and uh production evaluation. Then uh closing. So we have forty minutes to discuss and uh finalise and close the product and project and to move further, okay, so Okay, let's talk about maybe first uh for the prototype. Jennifer Smith: Mm, okay. Emily Krupa: So I handle to Jennifer Smith: I've done presentation, but it pretty much covers work that we've both done, so if I'm missing anything, Christine Emily Krupa: So Jennifer Smith: can Emily Krupa: shall Jennifer Smith: just Emily Krupa: I go to Esperanza Stevenson: Uh thank Jennifer Smith: correct Emily Krupa: sorry. Esperanza Stevenson: you, Jennifer Smith: Elsie Hall. Esperanza Stevenson: so you did a Emily Krupa: Yep. Esperanza Stevenson: PowerPoint Emily Krupa: S Esperanza Stevenson: presentation, good for you. Emily Krupa: Okay, let's go to A_M_I_. Jennifer Smith: It's not the biggest PowerPoint presentation in the world, but Emily Krupa: So in two or three or Jennifer Smith: Three. Um. No Elsie Hall: Probably. Jennifer Smith: it's think it's the last Elsie Hall: Technical Jennifer Smith: one. Elsie Hall: pa I would think. Jennifer Smith: No, then this is the la yeah, that Elsie Hall: Ha. Jennifer Smith: one, final design. Emily Krupa: Yeah. Jennifer Smith: It is named appropriately, you just couldn't see the name. Um okay I have Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: Thanks. Alright, so from when we were discussing specifying the case in the last meeting, we decided that we wanted an ergonomic shape, the material that we chose was wood, and uh the colour would be customisable, 'cause you can stain the wood whatever colour. Um, so in terms of function, you have to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off, volume and channel control, menu control, voice recognition control, and we've incorporated the L_C_D_ screen on the flip panel as part of the design, if we figure out it's too expensive, well then you just take it off. Um, so to unveil our lovely product. This is our remote control, with the flip panel as you can see. So if you lift up the panel, you can see the lovely yellow L_C_D_ display. Um, this is actually hard to do. The yellow button you have is the on off button, so it's really big, hard to miss. You have the the red um triangles are the toggles for changing the volume. So up volume up, down volume down. The green are the channel changing. S And it's one of those very light, very touchable displays. And then you have the numeric pad in the dark blue at the bottom, and on the right-hand side you have the access to the menu on the T_V_, and on the left-hand side you have the the the ability to turn off the voice recognition. So this is pretty much what we had on the white board the last time. Emily Krupa: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Smith: So. Esperanza Stevenson: Um and uh Jennifer Smith: Oh Esperanza Stevenson: I Jennifer Smith: yes. Esperanza Stevenson: could Yeah the Jennifer Smith: Additional Esperanza Stevenson: d Jennifer Smith: feature on the back is that you can have your own customised backing and I suppose you could do the same thing on the flip case on the front. So that you can really make this a highly highly customisable remote control. Esperanza Stevenson: We haven't um uh specified where the speaker or the microphone will be placed. That depends on the uh s design of the circuit board inside and uh what room is left um Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Emily Krupa: I think the microphone is on on the top, uh Esperanza Stevenson: Yes, Emily Krupa: on the middle, Esperanza Stevenson: okay. Emily Krupa: the under the flip. Esperanza Stevenson: Uh-huh. Emily Krupa: So that will be the safe, so p any the chip it's not on the chip because you need to have microphone to Esperanza Stevenson: No, I mean it depends on the design of the circuit board. Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: But it shouldn't be under the flip either, because you can have the remote control closed, but you still might want to Emily Krupa: Uh it's Jennifer Smith: activate Emily Krupa: it's Jennifer Smith: it by voice. Emily Krupa: Yeah, but uh uh my opinion I think it's better under the flip because whenever you want to uh the talk, okay, so then you can speak then you can close it. But if you put it on the on the flip, okay, then uh technical I don't think it's uh feasible, 'cause most of the time you speak then it will be recognised. Jennifer Smith: But if you've already got the remote control in your hand you need to open the flip to use the voice, why use the voice, why not just use your hand? I mean the whole point of the voice is that if the remote control is sitting there and I'm too lazy to reach over and pick it up, I can just use my voice. Esperanza Stevenson: Maybe I've got my hand in the popcorn bowl and I'm holding my cup of Coca-Cola in the other hand. Jennifer Smith: Yeah. And you Elsie Hall: I Jennifer Smith: don't Elsie Hall: don't Jennifer Smith: wanna let Elsie Hall: wanna Jennifer Smith: go Elsie Hall: say. Jennifer Smith: of either one. Elsie Hall: Louder. Yeah. Jennifer Smith: I mean it doesn't have to be on the flip, it can be on the side Elsie Hall: Can Jennifer Smith: somewhere. Elsie Hall: also be on the side. Emily Krupa: Yeah, the sides maybe Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Emily Krupa: is good. So That's good idea. Esperanza Stevenson: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Smith: So, I mean I can pass this around if Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: anyone Emily Krupa: So it's Jennifer Smith: wants Emily Krupa: maybe good Jennifer Smith: to Emily Krupa: idea. Esperanza Stevenson: Yeah, y better you pass it around with a napkin. Elsie Hall: No, because y you can easily put a microphone on the side that would have Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Elsie Hall: no problem Emily Krupa: Yes. Elsie Hall: would haven't been not be damaged or anything, and it'd Emily Krupa: Yeah. Elsie Hall: be accessible all the time to voice. Jennifer Smith: Yeah, exactly. Elsie Hall: Yeah. Emily Krupa: So it's maybe good idea. S s Esperanza Stevenson: It's um Elsie Hall: Compliments to the artist. Esperanza Stevenson: It's um You need to work on the weight a little bit. Jennifer Smith: Yes. Elsie Hall: Uh. Emily Krupa: Okay. S I'm Jennifer Smith: And maybe Emily Krupa: fine, Jennifer Smith: the shape Emily Krupa: I'm satisfi Jennifer Smith: of the buttons, the little Emily Krupa: I'm satisfied. Jennifer Smith: egg shapes aren't the most economical, Esperanza Stevenson: We're glad Emily Krupa: Of course Esperanza Stevenson: you're Emily Krupa: it's Esperanza Stevenson: satisfied. Jennifer Smith: but Emily Krupa: it's it's looks more heo heavy, but I think when it's completely maybe it's a less weight. Jennifer Smith: Yeah. I mean this is plasticene. There's Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: only so much you can do. We could have possibly made it a lot thinner as well. But And part of the thing is m a lot of people say that they don't like something that's too light, because they don't feel like they have enough control over it. Esperanza Stevenson: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Smith: So I mean maybe this is excessively heavy, but I think it needs to have some weight, it needs Emily Krupa: Yep. Jennifer Smith: to feel like you're still holding something. So that's pretty much it for our presentation actually. Emily Krupa: That's your uh prototype model? Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Emily Krupa: Okay, that's good, thank you very much. So any comments or uh Elsie Hall: Well, the prototype is very within the design and ideas that we've we've about on previous meetings. Emily Krupa: Okay. Elsie Hall: Now it goes into this next phase as the financial Emily Krupa: Yes, that Elsie Hall: uh marketing Emily Krupa: uh Elsie Hall: uh Emily Krupa: So I'll come back to the Emily Krupa: So evaluation criteria, I think uh that will be good, so then let's come to the finance uh, I have some uh calculations which I made uh as for uh the budget. So here you can uh look like uh the energy and uh dynamo and uh kinetic and solar cells. Uh it's optional, somewhat optional and Ed wants the chip on print, that's what uh we were talking about that. So then we have sample sensor and sample speaker, then uh we have the wood material, then special colour and push button. So it's uh actually, our budget was uh twelve point five Euro, but uh it's coming to nine point nine five Euro, so we are under uh below the budget, okay, so still we are saving some money. I think it's a good figure. Esperanza Stevenson: Yes, great I I'm surprised. Congratulations. Emily Krupa: Than thank you. Elsie Hall: Well we haven't come to mine yet, so Esperanza Stevenson: Oh, okay. Elsie Hall: we're Esperanza Stevenson: It's Elsie Hall: gonna have a Esperanza Stevenson: gonna Elsie Hall: bit Esperanza Stevenson: cost Elsie Hall: of Esperanza Stevenson: a Elsie Hall: difference Esperanza Stevenson: long Elsie Hall: of opinion, Esperanza Stevenson: way Elsie Hall: yes. Esperanza Stevenson: to c you know, cost a lot of money to market it, is it? Emily Krupa: So maybe it's for some money we can utilise for our uh marketing, for the sales, okay, and uh Elsie Hall: Well, it just depends on if we're gonna add a o on this pr provisionary cost analysis, we do not have a L_C_ display. L_C_ display is gonna be very expensive, Jennifer Smith: No Elsie Hall: it's gonna Jennifer Smith: we do, Elsie Hall: be Jennifer Smith: but it's not filled in. It's Elsie Hall: It's Emily Krupa: It's Elsie Hall: not Jennifer Smith: number Elsie Hall: it doesn't Jennifer Smith: thirty. Esperanza Stevenson: Thirty. Elsie Hall: say. Emily Krupa: not. Elsie Hall: We don't Emily Krupa: Yeah. Elsie Hall: have the price Jennifer Smith: Oh, Elsie Hall: up Jennifer Smith: yeah, Elsie Hall: there, Emily Krupa: Yeah. Jennifer Smith: yeah, you're Emily Krupa: Yeah. Elsie Hall: okay, Jennifer Smith: right, sorry, Esperanza Stevenson: Yeah. Emily Krupa: Yeah. Jennifer Smith: yes. Elsie Hall: so if we add approximately two to three Euro per remote, now we're up around about twelve, twelve and a half as to what uh the company had initially uh requested. Esperanza Stevenson: So that Elsie Hall: Um Esperanza Stevenson: means we can put the uh Elsie Hall: Display Esperanza Stevenson: the L_C_D_ Elsie Hall: in. Esperanza Stevenson: in, yeah. Elsie Hall: But as far as production um I'm putting up a question because we're talking about profit also, and in mine you'll see uh the problem with uh our survey, the p the possibility that how many units can be sold, what percentage of the market, etcetera etcetera because that has to be taken in into consideration. Uh this is just production cost, it is not uh advertising cost, it's not transportation cost uh Emily Krupa: Yes, so still uh we have twelve point five Elsie Hall: And Emily Krupa: Euro. Elsie Hall: that will inflate Emily Krupa: Yes. Elsie Hall: quite a bit the cost of the uh Emily Krupa: Yeah, Elsie Hall: the Emily Krupa: but Elsie Hall: cost of the unit Emily Krupa: Yes. Elsie Hall: for the company. Emily Krupa: Yep. Jennifer Smith: Um-hmm. Elsie Hall: So to come up with what the company wants is a fifty million Pound profit, we're gonna have to go a long ways. Emily Krupa: Yes. This we are talking about one unit, okay, so Elsie Hall: Yes. Emily Krupa: when it go into the quantity, okay, and the cost will come down. Elsie Hall: Slightly. Esperanza Stevenson: Although customisation, because this is being done, you know, the on on-order basis, Emily Krupa: Yeah. Elsie Hall: It's Esperanza Stevenson: it Elsie Hall: gonna Esperanza Stevenson: might Elsie Hall: be very Esperanza Stevenson: be Elsie Hall: hard Esperanza Stevenson: uh Elsie Hall: to Esperanza Stevenson: the the quantity Jennifer Smith: Yes. Elsie Hall: reduce. Esperanza Stevenson: won't m won't uh the circuit board will b you're right, would be in producing quantity, but the cost of the case would uh be fixed at the Uh you got some pretty cheap labour that can do this case for one Euro. Elsie Hall: That's Esperanza Stevenson: That's Elsie Hall: not bad. Esperanza Stevenson: really that's the cost of the material Emily Krupa: Yep. Esperanza Stevenson: and lab wow, that's Emily Krupa: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: really outstanding. Emily Krupa: But anyhow, still we are under control, okay, so what uh I will do is I will try to negotiate with the vendors, okay, to get uh the production cost less, okay, so then we can save some money, okay, to put into th our marketing or uh you know the promotions, whatever, okay, so that uh I will look after. I will speak to the management and how to get uh you know some more uh cost down. Elsie Hall: If we can go to to my display. And we'll come back to yours Emily Krupa: Yes. Elsie Hall: just to give everybody an idea of the market. So now I'm gonna scare everybody out of this project. If I'm still here. Emily Krupa: You're in four? Elsie Hall: Yep. The four gives Elsie Hall it's gotta be uh Emily Krupa: TrendWatch. Elsie Hall: TrendWatch. Esperanza Stevenson: Is this the same one you did before? Elsie Hall: No. Esperanza Stevenson: Okay. Elsie Hall: It shouldn't be if Jennifer Smith: That's Elsie Hall: it's not it's not the right one. Jennifer Smith: no, Elsie Hall: No, Jennifer Smith: I think Elsie Hall: no Jennifer Smith: it's the Elsie Hall: we Jennifer Smith: same Elsie Hall: g Jennifer Smith: one. Elsie Hall: no, that's the same one. You have to go back and find another one. Whatever name it popped up under. Uh Jennifer Smith: Functional. Elsie Hall: functional, try functional, it might not be it either, but we'll see. Jennifer Smith: It looks like it, there's Elsie Hall: Yep, that's Jennifer Smith: S Elsie Hall: it. Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Elsie Hall: So we'll go screen by screen. Emily Krupa: Okay. Elsie Hall: Although since uh we need to have some type of idea on a market uh we had independent study that says it this this market has an availability to absorb eight mi eight million units per year. Okay? Our internal company evaluation puts it between eight to nine million which is approximately the same as the independent study. Emily Krupa: Yep. Elsie Hall: So if we continue, we'll look at the findings. Next screen. Which means that uh if we have a target of two million would the company has to take twenty five percent of the market in the first year, Emily Krupa: Mm-hmm. Elsie Hall: which is actually a tremendous amount. Esperanza Stevenson: Yeah, no kidding. Elsie Hall: No kidding, yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: Mayb maybe they already expected Elsie Hall: So, Esperanza Stevenson: something. Elsie Hall: if we put an inflated price of fifty Euro at a production cost that cannot exceed twenty-five Euro, okay, we're already in that that price, Emily Krupa: Yes. Elsie Hall: okay, with transport, promotion, labour, because we hav gi included the promotion in the cost, Jennifer Smith: Um-hmm. Elsie Hall: transport for the material to the stores or whatever how however we're gonna break this down between our our retailers. Twenty-five percent of the market to get to two million units. At two million units, we have to have a profit of twenty-five Euro per unit to get to the fifty million unit Eu Emily Krupa: Mm-hmm. Elsie Hall: Euro profit. Emily Krupa: Yep. Elsie Hall: Okay? So, obviously we w w I just did a run down the evaluation of the form, the fan uh the fancy stylishness of the of the unit, the ease of use, speech recognition, cost, we've gone through these. Now, the company must evaluate the feasibility of being able to take enough of the market to justify in production. Or we project this over two years, but being that the market changes very very quickly, maybe Emily Krupa: Yes. Elsie Hall: there's no more interest in buying this thing in eighteen months from now. Emily Krupa: Yep. Elsie Hall: So, Emily Krupa: Of Jennifer Smith: Mm. Emily Krupa: course. Elsie Hall: now we have to come up with a decision. Can the company sell two million units? Emily Krupa: Yep. Elsie Hall: Can it sell it for Esperanza Stevenson: Could Elsie Hall: fifty Euros? Emily Krupa: Yep. Esperanza Stevenson: could I go to findings? Uh uh um I would uh like to explore the possibility of using um alternative um delivery and sales channel which would be um to use the internet Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: I was thinking the same Esperanza Stevenson: for Jennifer Smith: thing, Esperanza Stevenson: promotion Jennifer Smith: yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: and ordering and then to drop-ship the p product to the customer's Jennifer Smith: Directly. Esperanza Stevenson: residence. That way you have no storage, you have no um you do have transportation, Jennifer Smith: Um-hmm. Esperanza Stevenson: still have the labour cost, but you don't have the transport to the uh point of sale. Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: The point of sale is Emily Krupa: To the Esperanza Stevenson: online. Emily Krupa: agents. Jennifer Smith: Yeah. You can do a shipping centre somewhere, or strategically place shipping centres Esperanza Stevenson: Right, Jennifer Smith: to minimise Esperanza Stevenson: like Amazon. Jennifer Smith: distance Esperanza Stevenson: In fact, Jennifer Smith: costs. Esperanza Stevenson: we Emily Krupa: Yes. Esperanza Stevenson: should sell through Amazon, don't you Emily Krupa: Or Esperanza Stevenson: think? Emily Krupa: eBay, or Esperanza Stevenson: Or eBay, yeah. Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: There's an idea. Going Emily Krupa: Yeah, that's a good Esperanza Stevenson: with Emily Krupa: idea. Esperanza Stevenson: um Emily Krupa: To impro more profit Elsie Hall: S Emily Krupa: and Elsie Hall: Upscale Emily Krupa: uh Elsie Hall: technology. Emily Krupa: Yeah, yes. Esperanza Stevenson: Ah, we we're do you know, selling a Elsie Hall: Well. Esperanza Stevenson: unique product uh. Jennifer Smith: That actually makes more sense if we're gonna make it so highly customisable, 'cause on the web people can look at the different options they have, see maybe what other people have done, what Esperanza Stevenson: Mm. Jennifer Smith: the range of possibility Elsie Hall: There are several Jennifer Smith: as, Elsie Hall: companies Jennifer Smith: whereas Elsie Hall: that Jennifer Smith: if Elsie Hall: have gone Jennifer Smith: you're Elsie Hall: that Jennifer Smith: in a store, Elsie Hall: way. Esperanza Stevenson: Mm. Jennifer Smith: you can't unless you're a highly imaginative person, you may not really know what it is you want, whereas on the web, if you have a bunch Esperanza Stevenson: Mm-hmm. Jennifer Smith: of pictures, it can sort of trigger ideas and Esperanza Stevenson: And you can even have an a movie that you can rotate the object and look at the Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: di the only thing that you're missing really is the Jennifer Smith: The Esperanza Stevenson: weight. Jennifer Smith: weight Elsie Hall: Weight, Jennifer Smith: and feel. Elsie Hall: the feel of the Esperanza Stevenson: Mm. Elsie Hall: product, Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Elsie Hall: but Esperanza Stevenson: We're getting used to that. It's not quite like trying on a shoe, but people Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: are getting used to buying things online that they can't touch Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: before Elsie Hall: There are several Esperanza Stevenson: buying. Elsie Hall: that have gone through with the watches, too. You can customise a watch, you can see how it is at the f Jennifer Smith: Mm-hmm. Elsie Hall: at the end of the production, Esperanza Stevenson: Uh-huh. Elsie Hall: you can change it uh There's a lot of online that's that is doing Jennifer Smith: Yes. Elsie Hall: this now. And when you're rotating, you'll look behind and look this way uh it's possible to do with this, Emily Krupa: Yeah. Elsie Hall: know, feasibili feasibility uh lower the price of the unit. Jennifer Smith: Mm-hmm. Emily Krupa: We can. Esperanza Stevenson: Great. Emily Krupa: I don't think that's uh not possible, it's uh okay then, l uh let's wait for the production, okay, then uh you can evaluate the product, so how it looks like technically and uh how it look like uh the real. Jennifer Smith: What turnaround time do we have? Emily Krupa: T Jennifer Smith: 'Cause I mean production evaluation can Emily Krupa: Oh Jennifer Smith: be Emily Krupa: but Jennifer Smith: very very quick or very very Emily Krupa: Yes Jennifer Smith: long. Emily Krupa: it's it's very quick, of course. It will uh come back in two weeks, okay, it will be ready in two weeks. Esperanza Stevenson: Works for Elsie Hall. Emily Krupa: For evaluation, okay. Esperanza Stevenson: Prototypes, you mean. Emily Krupa: Yes, the Esperanza Stevenson: In Emily Krupa: prototype Esperanza Stevenson: um Emily Krupa: uh prototype product evaluation. Esperanza Stevenson: We probably should do some market tests Emily Krupa: Yes. Esperanza Stevenson: uh once we have the prototypes Elsie Hall: Well, obviously. Emily Krupa: Yes. Esperanza Stevenson: and do some orders Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: and things like Emily Krupa: Yes. Esperanza Stevenson: that and test-market it. Elsie Hall: Mm that'd Emily Krupa: Yeah. Elsie Hall: have to be thrown out on the market for people to get an idea, to Emily Krupa: So Elsie Hall: see Emily Krupa: you can take Elsie Hall: get Emily Krupa: a Jennifer Smith: Mm-hmm. Emily Krupa: minimum two Elsie Hall: get Emily Krupa: weeks Elsie Hall: their Emily Krupa: to a maximum four weeks. Yeah. Jennifer Smith: it's not a trivial task. Emily Krupa: Yeah, because we we are not going to do it in uh our factory, okay, so we can Jennifer Smith: No Emily Krupa: give it Jennifer Smith: no. Emily Krupa: a product Jennifer Smith: We Emily Krupa: evalua Jennifer Smith: definitely shouldn't do it Emily Krupa: Yes, Jennifer Smith: in our factory. Emily Krupa: yes. So we'll do it in the other place, and I don't think it's take more than four weeks time. Or uh Okay, so then the real production we will start once we product evaluation, okay then, uh it's approve from uh the technical team and uh your team, okay, uh from the management, then we can launch in the market. Hm? Esperanza Stevenson: Any outstanding? Emily Krupa: S Any any other uh questions or uh comments to be discuss? Esperanza Stevenson: No, Jennifer Smith: What ab Esperanza Stevenson: I'm Elsie Hall: I think we Esperanza Stevenson: go Elsie Hall: pretty Esperanza Stevenson: ahead. Elsie Hall: much covered everything. Emily Krupa: Okay, so then Esperanza Stevenson: Did you Emily Krupa: uh Esperanza Stevenson: have something? Jennifer Smith: Well I was just wondering about if we're gonna do a product evaluation then what about time for redesign if the users come back and tell us no this is bad, this is bad, we want this done differently. Emily Krupa: Okay uh, let's take like this. Let's proceed with this model, okay, for the for the marketing direction, okay. So no more changes will be made, okay, in this the basic design. Okay? So we will introduce m this model and uh let's introduce in the market and let's take the feedback from the customers, then we can uh go for the Esperanza Stevenson: Second generation. Emily Krupa: second generation. Okay. There's no end, there's not limit. Jennifer Smith: The problem is there Emily Krupa: Every Jennifer Smith: might not Emily Krupa: every Jennifer Smith: be a second Emily Krupa: custom Jennifer Smith: generation if the first generation Elsie Hall: Well, then it Jennifer Smith: flops Elsie Hall: may not be. Jennifer Smith: for some silly reason Emily Krupa: Okay. Well, every Jennifer Smith: that Emily Krupa: customer, Jennifer Smith: we haven't thought Emily Krupa: okay, Elsie Hall: Like Jennifer Smith: of. Elsie Hall: people Emily Krupa: they have Elsie Hall: don't Emily Krupa: their Elsie Hall: like Emily Krupa: own Elsie Hall: wood. Emily Krupa: ideas, they have their own test, okay, so there's no end, there's no limit. Jennifer Smith: No, but there's a difference between releasing a product that has been minimally tested and fine-tuned to suit a general range of requirements versus releasing a product that we think will work but we don't really have anything to back Elsie Hall: very Jennifer Smith: it Elsie Hall: specific. Jennifer Smith: up. Emily Krupa: Yeah, so that's the reason you are here for uh the design, okay, I hope you made a Jennifer Smith: Yes, Emily Krupa: good design. Jennifer Smith: but I'm not everybody. I mean the whole point of user evaluation is to see what real people need. We have our own motivations in mind, we have our own ideas in mind, but that doesn't mean that that's what's gonna sell. Emily Krupa: Yeah, but uh see, we ought to take a few considerations, okay, one is the price consideration, one is future consideration, okay, like uh you can eat uh you can all eat more chi I can eat more chilli, okay, so i it's a depends on the individual taste, you know, so we have we have to balance somewhere. Jennifer Smith: Yeah, of course. I'm just trying to point out that I think that your evaluation and redesign turnaround time is too short well you have no redesign not you personally, but Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: in the project Esperanza Stevenson: Our Jennifer Smith: we Esperanza Stevenson: project Jennifer Smith: have no Emily Krupa: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: doesn't Jennifer Smith: redesign time Esperanza Stevenson: um Jennifer Smith: and Esperanza Stevenson: Ed, d do you know what season of the year or time of the year is the most important for T_V_ remote control sales? Elsie Hall: Hmm. Esperanza Stevenson: Would it be the Christmas season by any chance? Emily Krupa: The sports time. Esperanza Stevenson: Sports season. Elsie Hall: Right before Esperanza Stevenson: Which Elsie Hall: the Eur Esperanza Stevenson: sport Elsie Hall: the Esperanza Stevenson: season? Elsie Hall: World Cup. Emily Krupa: Football. Elsie Hall: World Esperanza Stevenson: So Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Elsie Hall: soccer. Esperanza Stevenson: so Elsie Hall: World Cup soccer, they need those things Emily Krupa: Football. Elsie Hall: that they have Esperanza Stevenson: maybe Elsie Hall: their hands Esperanza Stevenson: what Elsie Hall: g occupied and they need to be able to talk to the con remote control. Esperanza Stevenson: So I think what we need to do is perhaps to synchronise the final the the launch of a user-tested Emily Krupa: Yes. Esperanza Stevenson: device with some special event. Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: Yeah, that's Esperanza Stevenson: And Jennifer Smith: a good idea. Esperanza Stevenson: and then um so that gives us a little more time perhaps then we anticipated, because I don't know when the World Cup is, but I'm sure there's gonna be one. Elsie Hall: Or any major sports. Esperanza Stevenson: Or another m major sports event. Probably not the um the football games coming up the end of January. I think that might be a little too aggressive Emily Krupa: Yes. Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: um, but, so, I'm just ig uh pointing out a uh a strategy to uh do some additional user testing Emily Krupa: Research. Jennifer Smith: Mm-hmm. Esperanza Stevenson: pri and then to launch um at a a major sports event or Emily Krupa: Yep. Esperanza Stevenson: uh perhaps to uh Jennifer Smith: That's Esperanza Stevenson: also Jennifer Smith: actually good place to advertise it too. Esperanza Stevenson: And to work with Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: motion pictures. There might be some motion pictures that are coming out um that are coming out on D_V_D_ that uh they need to have a m special remote control to work with it, so we could maybe work out a campaign with uh with Sony Pictures Emily Krupa: Yes. Esperanza Stevenson: for example. Maybe Jennifer Smith: Mm-hmm. Esperanza Stevenson: some management has got uh relationships there we can leverage. Emily Krupa: Yes, the that of course uh I will convince the management to do that, okay. Esperanza Stevenson: That's great. Jennifer Smith: It's just something to to keep in mind, 'cause it's really really important. Emily Krupa: Sure, sure, Jennifer Smith: A lot of products have Emily Krupa: yes. Jennifer Smith: gone out there without being properly user-tested and completely flopped, when in fact it gets re-released a few years down the line with proper testing and it takes off like crazy. Esperanza Stevenson: Disposable diapers is an example of that in fact. Jennifer Smith: Really? Esperanza Stevenson: Yes, Jennifer Smith: That I didn't Esperanza Stevenson: it is one of Jennifer Smith: know. Esperanza Stevenson: the first consumer products that was launched about thirty years that was a disposable consumer product, and uh people the market hadn't really gotten on to the concept that you could use something and then throw it away, Jennifer Smith: Mm-hmm. Esperanza Stevenson: 'cause it wasn't uh but then when they re-launched them thirty years later, they were virtually the same design, but people had gotten the throw-away, you know, paper cups and napki y all kinds of things that they hadn't um so, Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: you're right, timing is very important, Emily Krupa: Yeah. Esperanza Stevenson: a good product. Jennifer Smith: Yeah. Emily Krupa: That's the reason Ed is here. I Esperanza Stevenson: That's Emily Krupa: think he Esperanza Stevenson: right. Emily Krupa: can promote the the brand value and the product value. Esperanza Stevenson: It's gonna be very important to the Emily Krupa: Yes. Esperanza Stevenson: company. Emily Krupa: We are behind the scene and he is the front screen, so. Jennifer Smith: Yep. Elsie Hall: Yeah, I'm the one Emily Krupa: He's Elsie Hall: who takes Emily Krupa: on Elsie Hall: the Emily Krupa: the Elsie Hall: heat. Emily Krupa: big screen. Jennifer Smith: Exactly. Esperanza Stevenson: Good luck, Ed. Elsie Hall: If it's a flop, it's the marketer. Esperanza Stevenson: You look very relaxed, Elsie Hall: Yes. Esperanza Stevenson: considering h you know, the Elsie Hall: Yes. Esperanza Stevenson: uh Elsie Hall: Stress. Esperanza Stevenson: the weight on your shoulders, yeah. Emily Krupa: Okay, so then uh let's come to the closing and Elsie Hall: Celebration. Emily Krupa: uh are the costs within the budget and uh is the product evaluated, okay, so that will uh come soon. Okay for uh but our time being, so thanks for all your efforts and great work and uh great design and uh let's leave it to the Ed for later for once production is over and the meantime let's celebrate. So let's meet up uh this evening to hang up for some party. Esperanza Stevenson: Sounds good. Emily Krupa: 'S good. Jennifer Smith: Okay. Esperanza Stevenson: Thank you. Elsie Hall: Very good. Esperanza Stevenson: Nice working with you. Elsie Hall: Thank you very much. Emily Krupa: Thank you. Jennifer Smith: Thanks. Emily Krupa: Thank you again for all. And Elsie Hall: Bye-bye. Emily Krupa: see you in the evening for drinks. Elsie Hall: Yep, okay, see Jennifer Smith: Bye. Elsie Hall: you later on.

Jennifer Smith presented the prototype of the product to the group. The product featured an LCD display, a flip panel, and a customizable case back. Emily Krupa displayed the cost of all of the components, and the group decided that the current budget would not allow the addition of the LCD display. Emily Krupa decided to negotiate the cost of production to allow the addition of the display. Elsie Hall gave a presentation on sales projection and showed that the current projected sales point would probably not allow the project to reach its profit aim. The group also discussed the distribution and promotion of the product on the internet. Jennifer Smith expressed concern that there would not be time under the current plan to make changes to the product resulting from consumer testing; Emily Krupa decided that no additional changes would be made. The group then discussed other means of promoting the product: launching the remote at the same time as a large sporting event or DVD release.

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Gloria Jones: Okay. Emma Roman: Okay. Gloria Jones: Everybody ready? Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Emma Roman: I think so. Gloria Jones: Uh I think the first do is introduce ourselves Emma Roman: Yeah that's a Gloria Jones: and Emma Roman: plan Gloria Jones: everybody's name and what your function is? So maybe we start Marion Mullen: Okay. Gloria Jones: with you? Marion Mullen: Yeah, my name is Francina. And an user interface my role is uh the main responsibility is user interface. Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Marion Mullen: And my role is to design uh a television remote control. Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Okay. Emma Roman: And I'm a marketing person. I wanna figure out how to sell them. Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. And your name is? Emma Roman: My name is Eileen. Gloria Jones: Okay. Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Uh I'm Jeanne-Oui. Um role industrial designer and my responsibilities are uh uh um deal with the technical-functional designs and specifications of user interface and dealing with user interface design. Gloria Jones: Very good. And as you already know I am Betty. I am Gloria Jones for today. So why don't we look at the presentation to see what we really are supposed to do. Emma Roman: Okay. Gloria Jones: Um. Yes y opening, acquaintance, tool training well, I think, already I guess the tool is really our the computer, Emma Roman: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: as far as I can see. Uh we get ins each of us will get instructions and we'll take it from there. Project plan, that falls under the same heading pretty much. Um, I don't think we have any great discussion at this point. Emma Roman: No. Gloria Jones: Um. Here is what this thing should be. This thing we are gonna um uh design is a new remote control. Uh should be original, Emma Roman: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: trendy, and, of course, user friendly. So maybe you wanna make some notes of that. Emma Roman: Okay. Gloria Jones: Okay? Emma Roman: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: All right. Here is what the functional design is supposed to achieve. Um. That is it's gonna be individual work and then at the meeting we'll discuss what uh we have come up with. The same goes for the conceptual design, there will be individual work whic and then discussion afterwards. Detailed design, Emma Roman: Mm 'kay so Gloria Jones: same thing basically. Emma Roman: Three different types of design that we're gonna be concerned with Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Emma Roman: okay. Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Emma Roman: Functional, conception and detailed. Gloria Jones: I can't write with this thing. Emma Roman: Maybe we should redesign it. Gloria Jones: Yes. Emma Roman: After we've finished the remote control we'll get to that. Gloria Jones: Yeah, okay. All right? Then, tool training try out the white board, participant can draw their favourite animal. Does anybody want to go and see how the white board works? So that in case we have to, in the next meeting, present something on the white board. You wanna go Eileen and Emma Roman: Okay, I'll see what I can do. Gloria Jones: Whether you without hanging yourself. Emma Roman: See if I remember how to draw a kitty cat or a rabbit or something. Gloria Jones: And remember you have to press so it works. Emma Roman: So that it will record Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Emma Roman: okay. Um uh um traditional kitty cat. Gloria Jones: Fat, a fat cat. Emma Roman: I've a very fat cat. And it likes to sit like that. Gloria Jones: Okay. Emma Roman: Okay. Gloria Jones: And you're Francine, Marion Mullen: Yes, Gloria Jones: right? Marion Mullen: I'm Gloria Jones: Would you Marion Mullen: Francina. Gloria Jones: like s like just to see Marion Mullen: Yes, Gloria Jones: um Marion Mullen: sure. Gloria Jones: how it feels, so that you have a little idea? Emma Roman: Am I supposed Gloria Jones: In Emma Roman: to wipe off that or Gloria Jones: No, no. No, that's okay. Marion Mullen: No, Okay. Emma Roman: okay. Gloria Jones: I don't know, we'll get to that later. Emma Roman: Okay. Marion Mullen: What should I draw? Gail Trujillo: Snake. Marion Mullen: I'm going to draw a snake. How does it look like? Emma Roman: Uh, okay. Gloria Jones: Okay. Okay. Emma Roman: I hope the kitty cat is hungry 'cause I don't like snakes. Gloria Jones: Here's the project finance uh which, of course, we all have to think about when we design this thing. Um selling price is supposed to be twenty five Euro. Uh Emma Roman: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: profit aim for the company is fifty million Euro, the market range unlimited meaning international Emma Roman: Okay. Gloria Jones: and the production cost should not exceed hopefully should be less than twelve fifty Euro. Emma Roman: Mm 'kay that should keep everybody on their toes and challenged. Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Emma Roman: Profit. Um Gloria Jones: So Emma Roman: is Gloria Jones: these Emma Roman: fifty Gloria Jones: are all things, of course, Emma Roman: mm. Gloria Jones: to remember with the budget and when you design to materials, cost, etcetera. Now, uh the Emma Roman: Oops. Gloria Jones: discussion I guess is um does anyone of you have experience with remote control? Gail Trujillo: Yeah, Gloria Jones: I Gail Trujillo: of Gloria Jones: exp Gail Trujillo: course, Gloria Jones: I Gail Trujillo: using Gloria Jones: s Marion Mullen: Yes. Gloria Jones: 'cause Gail Trujillo: remote Gloria Jones: we we Gail Trujillo: control. Gloria Jones: use 'em we use Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Gloria Jones: 'em, right, everyday. And um now having used a remote control for years does anybody already have like an idea like things you didn't like with it, things you would like to change, things you would like to improve with this thing ye any first ideas? Would you like it to be smaller, Gail Trujillo: Uh. Gloria Jones: bigger, Marion Mullen: Yeah, Gloria Jones: have Marion Mullen: I Gloria Jones: more have more buttons on it or maybe clearly better marked buttons, you know, things Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Gloria Jones: like that? Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Marion Mullen: Yes, I I feel that all the remote should be very compact. Gloria Jones: Small, right. Marion Mullen: Yeah those, Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Marion Mullen: which we get here nowadays it's very long. Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Marion Mullen: And um and it should have multi-purpose. Like uh the remote control which we use for T_V_, it shou uh it should be used f uh for some other purpose also, like controlling the Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Marion Mullen: uh Gail Trujillo: Audio Marion Mullen: temperature Gail Trujillo: player. Marion Mullen: inside Gail Trujillo: Oh. Marion Mullen: the house or Gail Trujillo: Okay. Marion Mullen: for air-conditioners, or for heating system. Gloria Jones: So it should be a multi-functional Marion Mullen: Yes, Gloria Jones: uh Marion Mullen: exactly Gloria Jones: gadget that Marion Mullen: Yes. Gloria Jones: would Gail Trujillo: Hmm. Gloria Jones: um control all your household uh Marion Mullen: Yes. Gloria Jones: uh Gail Trujillo: Divides Gloria Jones: machines Gail Trujillo: us Gloria Jones: basically. Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Marion Mullen: Yeah. Exactly. Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Emma Roman: At um twelve fifty Euros per Gloria Jones: Well. Emma Roman: Well who knows if we get a really good designer maybe we Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Emma Roman: can do that. We certainly can try to I agree with her that to market something successfully it should do some more things. Gloria Jones: It should be something new it should be s it it should do something different than than just what Emma Roman: That's Gloria Jones: we have. Emma Roman: right. Gail Trujillo: Yeah, Gloria Jones: Now, Marion Mullen: Yeah. Gloria Jones: of Gail Trujillo: of Gloria Jones: course, Gail Trujillo: course. Gloria Jones: the other thing to think there is maybe the design. Marion Mullen: Yeah, design should be, yeah it should be different. All the almost all Gloria Jones: Like Marion Mullen: the Gloria Jones: trendy no like Marion Mullen: remotes Gloria Jones: f for earlier we saw maybe it should be something trendy you know. Gail Trujillo: Yeah Marion Mullen: Yes, Gail Trujillo: maybe, Marion Mullen: exactly. Gloria Jones: Maybe Gail Trujillo: ten Gloria Jones: it should Gail Trujillo: I Gloria Jones: different colours Gail Trujillo: do yeah, colours Gloria Jones: or materials Marion Mullen: Are Gail Trujillo: and Marion Mullen: different Gail Trujillo: al shapes Marion Mullen: shapes. Gail Trujillo: also. Gloria Jones: or Marion Mullen: Yes. Gloria Jones: you Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Gloria Jones: know. Um so yeah shapes right, you know, like kidney shape feels Marion Mullen: Yes. Gloria Jones: better in your hand or something, Gail Trujillo: Yeah of Gloria Jones: you Emma Roman: Yeah Gloria Jones: know. Gail Trujillo: course Emma Roman: okay, Gail Trujillo: yeah. Emma Roman: friendly shape, Gloria Jones: Yeah. Emma Roman: that would help. I think another thing that would help is Gloria Jones: Yes. Emma Roman: um if it beeps when you clap, because I think one of the big things that happens is people lose them. They can't find it. Gloria Jones: That is true, because they put a newspaper or they put it behind Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Gloria Jones: a plant or, we you know, whatever. Emma Roman: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: And and they suddenly the phone rings and they want to turn the T_V_ off and they say, where the hell is my my remote control yeah? Emma Roman: So Gloria Jones: Well Emma Roman: some Gloria Jones: or yeah or if it's really, if it's really in a dark spot that it gives out a a sound Gail Trujillo: Yeah, some Gloria Jones: or a signal. Gail Trujillo: beep Emma Roman: Uh so, Gail Trujillo: or something Marion Mullen: Or a Gloria Jones: Yeah. Marion Mullen: b Gail Trujillo: like that, Emma Roman: so Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Gail Trujillo: so Emma Roman: it's Gail Trujillo: that Emma Roman: really Gail Trujillo: we can Emma Roman: the Gail Trujillo: go Gloria Jones: So Emma Roman: beep Gloria Jones: if Emma Roman: or, Gloria Jones: lost Emma Roman: or a light should blink. Gloria Jones: If lost Marion Mullen: Should Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Marion Mullen: ha Gloria Jones: uh Marion Mullen: A Gloria Jones: signal Marion Mullen: fluorescent Gloria Jones: with Marion Mullen: signal, Gloria Jones: b Marion Mullen: yeah. Gloria Jones: throw Emma Roman: Mm Gloria Jones: signal, Emma Roman: 'kay. Gloria Jones: you know. Gail Trujillo: Yeah, maybe it should have a light so that we can, we can just recognise where it is. Gloria Jones: Exactly, Gail Trujillo: Yeah, yeah. Gloria Jones: I mean just Gail Trujillo: May not Gloria Jones: that's Gail Trujillo: be Gloria Jones: what Gail Trujillo: beep. Gloria Jones: I'm saying. I'm just saying throw signal meaning just whether it's a beep Gail Trujillo: Beep Gloria Jones: or whether Gail Trujillo: or uh it's Gloria Jones: a Gail Trujillo: a Gloria Jones: light Gail Trujillo: light, Gloria Jones: or Gail Trujillo: maybe Emma Roman: And do Gail Trujillo: it's Emma Roman: you think Gail Trujillo: a light. Emma Roman: a good c c um clue for that is that it would respond to a clap or it would respond to your voice or it would respond what what should you have to do to make it beep or blink? Gloria Jones: Okay, my my idea is maybe that the minute it's really hidden, in in other words if it's like in a dark spot, Emma Roman: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: uh meaning you know like a newspaper is on top, a sweater is on top or Emma Roman: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: it it's behind a plant, at that moment it's it's like, it's like um, what you call it a light s sensors, you know? Emma Roman: Okay so Marion Mullen: Yes. Emma Roman: Okay. Gail Trujillo: Yeah, probably Gloria Jones: I mean, that we can Gail Trujillo: yeah, Gloria Jones: discuss Gail Trujillo: probably Gloria Jones: that Gail Trujillo: it's Gloria Jones: later, Gail Trujillo: a yeah, Gloria Jones: you know. Gail Trujillo: yeah. Marion Mullen: Yeah. And uh Emma Roman: So the light sensor would activate the signal. Gloria Jones: That's right. Gail Trujillo: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: You know there would be right you have to have some kind of sensor and I I think uh voice or clapping it's not specific enough. Uh I know there are the lamps and stuff, you know, you Emma Roman: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: can clap on and Marion Mullen: Yes. Gloria Jones: off, but I think they only work to certain degree and Emma Roman: But it could be someplace really obvious and you still wouldn't be able to find it. Gail Trujillo: Yeah, Gloria Jones: What Gail Trujillo: of course, Gloria Jones: with Gail Trujillo: that didn't Emma Roman: Well, Marion Mullen: Then, Emma Roman: because Marion Mullen: in that Emma Roman: you're s Marion Mullen: case Emma Roman: because Gail Trujillo: I i Emma Roman: you're Gail Trujillo: we Emma Roman: silly. Gail Trujillo: can't do Emma Roman: Because Gail Trujillo: it. Emma Roman: people are silly. Gloria Jones: Oh yeah well, but then Emma Roman: I mean Gloria Jones: those Emma Roman: it could Gloria Jones: people Emma Roman: be on Gloria Jones: we can't help everybody. Emma Roman: well, i if it were like on top of your bookcase and you usually kept it on the coffee table um, you know, Gloria Jones: Okay Emma Roman: well Gloria Jones: we have Emma Roman: maybe we Gloria Jones: uh Emma Roman: have to move along, Gloria Jones: yeah, Emma Roman: okay. Gloria Jones: we have to move along, but I think we have some good Gail Trujillo: Yeah, Gloria Jones: good points Gail Trujillo: good point. Gloria Jones: to start with here. Okay, the next meeting will be in thirty minutes. I think you all did you get uh notices on your computer Gail Trujillo: Emma Roman Gloria Jones: for Gail Trujillo: yeah. Gloria Jones: this? Okay so well, you got the notice Marion Mullen: Yes. Gloria Jones: um uh. The working design, I guess that's the function I_D_ uh who is this? Gail Trujillo Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Gloria Jones: That's you. Gail Trujillo: Yeah, it's functional de yeah, exactly, Gloria Jones: Okay. Gail Trujillo: technical. Gloria Jones: So, we looking for a working design when Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Gloria Jones: we come back. Gail Trujillo: Uh working design, yeah, it's it's uh mainly Gloria Jones: Then Gail Trujillo: technical-functional design. Gloria Jones: And then the technical funct you are the technical Gail Trujillo: Yeah, functional Gloria Jones: function, so Gail Trujillo: design, and you Gloria Jones: so you are the working design. So you Marion Mullen: Okay. Gloria Jones: have a working design and then a functional design. And the marketing manager is coming up with some user requirement specification, like friendliness, and what we just discussed in general. That would be your idea. And, of course, price. That it, that it, that the price is a good price. Emma Roman: Mm-hmm. Gloria Jones: I mean, the price is given, but, that was Emma Roman: We have to justify that Gloria Jones: That's Emma Roman: price Gloria Jones: right. Emma Roman: by having sufficient features to make it sell at that price. Gloria Jones: That's right. And, you know, specifi you you will get specific um instructions for that. I think that's the end of the show. Yeah. So um we have well, we have a twen two two two three minutes. Um any questions at this point? Or uh suggestions? Emma Roman: Mm. Gloria Jones: I think basically basically you will get instructions to work with and Marion Mullen: Okay. Gloria Jones: if you have any questions Gail Trujillo: Yeah. Gloria Jones: uh, uh I guess, you can uh Emma Roman: Okay, I think I have enough to think about 'til our next meeting. Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Gail Trujillo: Yeah, even Emma Roman: How about Gail Trujillo: I have. Emma Roman: you people? Gail Trujillo: Yeah, Marion Mullen: Yes. Emma Roman: Really? Gail Trujillo: even I have, Gloria Jones: Mm-hmm. Gail Trujillo: I Emma Roman: Okay. Gail Trujillo: think, yeah. Emma Roman: 'Kay. Gloria Jones: Okay. Emma Roman: Alright, Gail Trujillo: Yeah, Emma Roman: well Gail Trujillo: so let's Emma Roman: uh Gail Trujillo: see. Gloria Jones: Then uh we see you in about thirty minutes. Marion Mullen: Yes. Gloria Jones: And see what we can come up with. Gail Trujillo: Hmm. Emma Roman: Okay, Marion Mullen: Okay. Emma Roman: very good. Gloria Jones: Okay? Marion Mullen: Yes. Gail Trujillo: Yeah.

The meeting opens with the group doing introductions by giving their name and role. Betty is Gloria Jones, Francina is the user interface specialist, Eileen is Emma Roman, and Jeanne is Gail Trujillo. Gloria Jones tells them they will be designing a new remote control that should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. They will be concerned with functional, conceptional, and detailed design. To try out the whiteboard, each group member draws her favorite animal on the board. They discuss the project budget and then talk about their experiences with remote controls. They seemed to agree that the remote should be compact and have a multi-purpose functions. They also agree that it should do something different that current controls cannot do and that it should be made of different colors, materials, and shapes. They also discuss a way of helping people find the remote when it is lost- a signal, whether it is a beep or light. Then they close the meeting with Gloria Jones going over the tasks they are to complete and telling them they will meet again in about thirty minutes.

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Dawn Waitman: Okay, is everybody ready? Ellen Martinez: Yeah? Bonita Moss: Yeah I'd to just put on my microphone here and I'll be right with you. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: Okay? Dawn Waitman: Um I take it you all have received instructions as to what you were supposed to do Ellen Martinez: Mm? Mary Sutton: Yes. Dawn Waitman: and um I think the Marketing Manager probably should go first, addressing the needs and desires. Bonita Moss: Okay you want Bonita Moss to start right now? Dawn Waitman: Yeah, mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: Okay. Well, could you um put my slides up 'cause I think it might be helpful if uh we looked at the slides at the same time. Dawn Waitman: Okay. Dawn Waitman: You're participant four. Bonita Moss: I'm participant four I believe. Yes uh-huh. 'Kay. Dawn Waitman: Okay, and now I can uh full screen. Ellen Martinez: Open. Dawn Waitman: Uh, okay, okay. Bonita Moss: There we go. Okay well I think Ellen Martinez: And then full Bonita Moss: we Ellen Martinez: screen Bonita Moss: have introduced ourselves, so the functional requirements are is is part of my goal but why don't we pass right to the second slide. Cause that's where m my discussion starts. Right well um since I'm in charge of trying to figure out what we should put on this thing since I have to try to sell it. Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: Um I thought that the method I should follow would be gather suggestions from everybody, and th the reason I just put that there like that is that uh in the init in the initial stage I think I should just be open to lots of suggestions. You know you can say anything you want no matter how silly it sounds you know it should run your car, it should heat up your motor if should um turn on your C_D_ whatever you want it Ellen Martinez: 'Kay. Bonita Moss: to do um and then as we go on what we'll have to do is accept and eliminate these suggestions according to um design and budget feasibility. So I'll be coming to you um frequently as the Industrial Expert Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: to tell Bonita Moss how hard it's gonna be Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: to add a feature or how expensive Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: it's gonna be Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: or if your time, if it takes five years Ellen Martinez: Hmm Bonita Moss: to develop this Ellen Martinez: hmm. Bonita Moss: it's just something we can't Ellen Martinez: Mm. Bonita Moss: do. So in the beginning just have a big puddle Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: of things that we anybody can th throw anything in and then just weed things out that can't be done for one reason or another, and then the things that seem the most attractive that to uh to a customer Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: we'll try to then prioritise those. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: So that was um what I meant there, and as I said on the slide there consulting the Industrial Engineer about that and the other thing is timing is really gonna be as important as money, because if we're gonna sell this thing, I think the best time to sell it is as a Christmas present. Twenty five Euros makes a nice little present, and we want it to be an impulse purchase, we Ellen Martinez: Mm. Bonita Moss: want somebody to see it and think it's, gee I just gotta have that. And take out their wallet and buy it. So it's gotta be really attractive and it but it's gotta go to market by September, 'cause anything that you don't already have out there in September showing it around, isn't Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: gonna sell for Christmas. Um and then I'll be coming to you as the User Interface person to try to tell Bonita Moss from your point of view what are the most friendly features that we could put on it and try to prior help Bonita Moss with that prioritising Mary Sutton: Okay. Bonita Moss: of uh of the features and of the the look and the colour and I'll be coming back to you to help weed out those suggestions from that point of view. Mary Sutton: Okay. Bonita Moss: So I'll be coming to you for how much is it gonna cost us and how long is it gonna take Ellen Martinez: Mm Bonita Moss: you, Ellen Martinez: mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: and I'll be coming to you to tell Bonita Moss what's gonna make Mary Sutton: What Bonita Moss: somebody Mary Sutton: features. Bonita Moss: take out their wallet you know, what what's what's gonna really be what they call a sizzle, 'cause we gotta Mary Sutton: S. Bonita Moss: sell this sizzle. Mary Sutton: Yes. Bonita Moss: A lot of times the thing that works the best from an engineering point of view isn't the thing that somebody's really just gonna take out their wallet and buy for Christmas for for their child or for Mary Sutton: Yes. Bonita Moss: their husband or whatever. Okay can we go to the next slide please? Alright I I already did a little bit of research after our first meeting where we threw out some ideas and it looks to Bonita Moss that within the budget that we're looking at the uh the whole house idea really isn't gonna be possible. So I'd like your suggestions to come back to the other slide where I was saying we we could suggest anything. I'd like the suggestions to be really specific, so that we'll have a list of things we can cross off, not something like you know whole house control what'll be And then I found on the internet from from my research that some extended electronic entertainment control should be possible. At the budget that we're looking at and at the price point we're looking at, we should be able to make it work the T_V_, the V_C_R_, the stereo set um maybe something else cute like a coffee pot or one other appliance Dawn Waitman: Uh okay, Bonita Moss: or maybe Dawn Waitman: can Bonita Moss: a lamp. Dawn Waitman: can I Bonita Moss: I Dawn Waitman: at Bonita Moss: have Dawn Waitman: this Bonita Moss: to wind Dawn Waitman: point Bonita Moss: up? Dawn Waitman: interject um Bonita Moss: Yeah, sure. Dawn Waitman: something? Um we have received instruction from higher up that certain things should uh considered. Bonita Moss: Okay. Dawn Waitman: Um the one thing for example something to eliminate maybe that's the teletext, because that's sort of outdated Bonita Moss: Okay. Dawn Waitman: with the internet, Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: and according to to higher management the it should only control the T_V_, mostly because they feel that it's too comp complex a task Ellen Martinez: Complicated, Dawn Waitman: to Ellen Martinez: yeah, of course. Dawn Waitman: um to to include other things, and they are concerned with the time to market. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: Of course, yeah. Mary Sutton: Okay. Dawn Waitman: Okay. Um Bonita Moss: Okay, so that's Dawn Waitman: and Bonita Moss: something Dawn Waitman: the and the third thing that they wanna make sure um that their that the corporate image is being maintained, and that the corporate colour and design are being used on the product, so that it's easy that that that they can be easily identified as a product of of of the company, and that there's no mistake that it Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: could be somebody else who is bringing this out. So I just wanted to interject this here so we're not getting too much off track here with uh with the things we wanna look at. These were instructions from higher up so we have to eliminate uh these things, so it's Bonita Moss: Okay Dawn Waitman: only Bonita Moss: so Dawn Waitman: gonna be T_V_, but the one thing maybe that could be um eliminated is the teletext uh idea. Bonita Moss: Okay. Dawn Waitman: Mm 'kay. Mary Sutton: Okay. Bonita Moss: Alright, thanks for that. Um alright now other things that I found out on in my research is that the complaints that people have about the remote controls that are out there now. 'Cause a lot of them take too much time to learn how to use, and that was thirty four percent but even more important the thing that we did address in our last meeting that frequently it's lost somewhere in the room. definitely do wanna address, uh we wanna s make it as simple as possible, we wanna make it um obvious and intuitive to use, and then the things about finding it we talked about the a light emitting thing as well as uh maybe a beep, and I think that those are things after my research that we definitely wanna try to incorporate. 'Kay can we go to the next slide please? Okay, so, my personal preferences in this um project are really have to concentrate on the sizzle. That is the selling point, the thing that's gonna make it an impulse purchase. Uh because once there's no be-back, well in sales they always say you know, be-backs don't come back. If somebody says, oh I'll come back and get it next week you're dead. They're never gonna come back and buy it. You've gotta make it attractive enough so they buy it now now now w now is a big word in in my book for selling this thing. And, in order to make it really sellable we've gotta shorten the learning curve, make sure it's really intuitive and easy to use. We have to have as few buttons as possible, because more buttons is more confusion, so that's why I'm saying, simplicity is good. Finding it's important, obviously you can't use it if you can't find it. So we've gotta concentrate on the features that help you find it, and I've already said this several times but I put it down in writing here, it should be an attractive impulse purchase at twenty five Euros. So it has to have enough value that when somebody looks at it they say, uh twenty five Euros I'm not gonna take that. Has to be so great that they're gonna say, uh twenty five Euros isn't much. Um and then maybe a motto, like we put fashion in electronics might be something we can use in our marketing campaign. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: Okay that's uh about it for Bonita Moss right now. Dawn Waitman: Okay. And uh who would be next, uh, I guess that would be you. Ellen Martinez: Yeah Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: 'kay. Dawn Waitman: You want Bonita Moss to get your Ellen Martinez: Yeah Dawn Waitman: slide show Ellen Martinez: yeah Dawn Waitman: up? Ellen Martinez: sure. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: Thank you. Dawn Waitman: And you are number three? Ellen Martinez: Number two, Dawn Waitman: Number Ellen Martinez: yeah. Dawn Waitman: two. Ellen Martinez: Yeah exactly. Dawn Waitman: Okay. Ellen Martinez: Uh can you Dawn Waitman: Okay. Ellen Martinez: make it uh full screen please? Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Yep. Ellen Martinez: No, it's like a well you you have to press here. cup shape here? Dawn Waitman: Yeah yeah, uh-huh. Ellen Martinez: The thir third. Yeah Dawn Waitman: There, mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: exactly. Uh so today I'm going to talk about the working design of the remote controller. Bonita Moss: Okay. Ellen Martinez: Um can you go to the next sli slide please? Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: The metal is like uh in a remote controller you have a chip integrated circuit which is like a brain of the remote controller. It takes the power from a battery say a battery it it can be a elec an electric supply like you have to uh like uh switch connec connect connect your remote controller to uh power supply from the you know electricity or something like that. It should be a battery because uh uh remote controller should be like you you you should take it t to wherever you want Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: and then um uh th this integrated circuitry takes energy from the power source and whatever like if you press a button it's like a input for the remote controller and it takes the input and it it transforms into a infro infrared bits and it sends it into the device, like a T_V_ or a air conditioner, something like that so. Uh a remote controller is specifically designed to a single device. If you want to design it for multiple devices then you should make all the devices compatible with the frequency like uh th the remote controller it sends some bits some uh waves like with a particular frequency the device should know what the frequency is. It should re re recognise the uh waves which are coming from the remote controller and it should take the action like if you press a button channel or something like that then uh the remote uh remote controller will send a send a se send Bonita Moss: Signal. Ellen Martinez: a signal, and the T_V_ it should translate Mary Sutton: Receive. Ellen Martinez: that into like change the channel or something Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: like that, change the volume control Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: and uh so uh I think it's hard to design a remote controller for multiple uh devices. Mary Sutton: Multi-purpose. Bonita Moss: Yeah well Dawn Waitman: Yo Bonita Moss: that's Dawn Waitman: and Bonita Moss: already Dawn Waitman: it's Bonita Moss: been eliminated Dawn Waitman: yeah Bonita Moss: by management, Ellen Martinez: Uh yeah. Dawn Waitman: but Bonita Moss: so Dawn Waitman: it's so. Bonita Moss: we're off the hook. Ellen Martinez: Um. Dawn Waitman: Yep. Ellen Martinez: So uh user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages like there should be a user user in interface like you know switch pad or something like that buttons should be there. So uh you can control whatever you want, you want to change the channel you want to control the volume you you want to uh mute uh mute the uh T_V_ or you want to have a child lock or you want to do some operations there's a there should be some device to tell what to do to the uh in uh integrated circuit so that Bonita Moss: Mm Ellen Martinez: the Bonita Moss: okay. Ellen Martinez: integrated circuit can s send the signals and T_V_ can perform the actions. So can you go to the next Bonita Moss: Okay. Ellen Martinez: slide please? So I I just would like to uh add some extra features to the remote controller Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: um I think these are the very simple features and uh they don't take much uh uh much of the um um investment also, it's like el the text or buttons which uh which are there on the uh remote controller they those we can make uh um like fluorescent Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: uh they'll be like light emitting if it is dark so that you can find your remote controller if it is dark. And ther there should be a beep if many buttons are pressed if suppose a child is playing with the remote controller and a and she she or he is pressing the buttons all at the time then there should be a beep saying that it's this this is not a a you know a a action, there can be no action taking to that so. And there should be a child lock, like uh uh you should be able to lock your remote controller so that uh um whatever buttons are pressed by a child they can't be like y you i you if you have ki kids and all then they'll be pl playing with the remote controllers so can lock the remote controller. If make it useable for more than one device it's a it's hard but I Dawn Waitman: Yeah Ellen Martinez: think Dawn Waitman: well Ellen Martinez: it's possible Dawn Waitman: yeah Bonita Moss: Well Dawn Waitman: well Ellen Martinez: but Dawn Waitman: that Bonita Moss: we already Dawn Waitman: has Ellen Martinez: it Dawn Waitman: been e Ellen Martinez: uh yeah Dawn Waitman: that Bonita Moss: eliminated Dawn Waitman: has Ellen Martinez: yeah Dawn Waitman: been eliminated, Mary Sutton: Eliminated. Bonita Moss: that. Ellen Martinez: yeah Dawn Waitman: so that's Ellen Martinez: so Dawn Waitman: that's Ellen Martinez: it's it's Dawn Waitman: unfortunately Ellen Martinez: okay, yeah, Dawn Waitman: a moot point Ellen Martinez: yeah. Dawn Waitman: now. Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: And uh different shapes that we can do like uh we can have you know a all animals shapes or you know comfortable uh whi which can fit into your hands and um Bonita Moss: Now Ellen Martinez: so Bonita Moss: that's Ellen Martinez: that Bonita Moss: good Ellen Martinez: uh Bonita Moss: from a marketing point of view, the Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Bonita Moss: fun Ellen Martinez: yeah, Bonita Moss: the fun Ellen Martinez: yeah Bonita Moss: shape. Ellen Martinez: and colours also, different Dawn Waitman: Yeah Bonita Moss: And that Dawn Waitman: I Mary Sutton: Mm-hmm Ellen Martinez: colours, Bonita Moss: you Mary Sutton: colours. Bonita Moss: you Ellen Martinez: and Bonita Moss: say that won't add too much to the budget? To Ellen Martinez: No no Bonita Moss: d Ellen Martinez: no, it Bonita Moss: the shape Ellen Martinez: won't uh Bonita Moss: is Ellen Martinez: I Bonita Moss: uh Ellen Martinez: don't think it will be like, you can have you know for uh if you want Dawn Waitman: It just Ellen Martinez: ther Dawn Waitman: build Ellen Martinez: there Dawn Waitman: a mould Ellen Martinez: to be more Dawn Waitman: basically and Ellen Martinez: Yeah Dawn Waitman: uh Ellen Martinez: yeah. It's Dawn Waitman: you Mary Sutton: Yes Ellen Martinez: it's Dawn Waitman: know. Ellen Martinez: just Mary Sutton: exactly. Ellen Martinez: a s shape so it doesn't matter. Dawn Waitman: As the budget we're looking at if you build one mould I don't think Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: that's going to make a big difference whether it's gonna be square or Bonita Moss: Do you think there's any chance of um having ser in having basically the same machine with the same buttons but maybe several different shapes? Ellen Martinez: Yeah that is also Dawn Waitman: Oh yes. Ellen Martinez: possible I Bonita Moss: Is that Ellen Martinez: uh Bonita Moss: gonna Ellen Martinez: yeah Bonita Moss: be Mary Sutton: Yes. Bonita Moss: a Ellen Martinez: I Bonita Moss: possible? Ellen Martinez: I Bonita Moss: 'Cause Ellen Martinez: yeah. Bonita Moss: that Dawn Waitman: I Bonita Moss: might Dawn Waitman: think Bonita Moss: help with the marketing. Dawn Waitman: I think we will have to look Ellen Martinez: Yeah that Dawn Waitman: at the Ellen Martinez: will Dawn Waitman: budget Ellen Martinez: be Dawn Waitman: on that but I think in principle that that would be that would be kind of fun, Ellen Martinez: Yeah Bonita Moss: Because Dawn Waitman: you know. Ellen Martinez: yeah. Bonita Moss: we had something sort of sexy Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: for adults and Dawn Waitman: Yeah. Bonita Moss: we could have something sort of Dawn Waitman: Silly for Bonita Moss: silly Dawn Waitman: children. Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Bonita Moss: for Ellen Martinez: for Bonita Moss: children Ellen Martinez: children, Dawn Waitman: Like Bonita Moss: or a Dawn Waitman: an Bonita Moss: little Ellen Martinez: yeah Dawn Waitman: animal Ellen Martinez: exactly. Bonita Moss: animal Mary Sutton: Like Dawn Waitman: or Bonita Moss: shape Mary Sutton: a doll, Bonita Moss: or Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Bonita Moss: in Ellen Martinez: that's Bonita Moss: a Mary Sutton: or Ellen Martinez: what, Dawn Waitman: Yeah. Bonita Moss: or a Ellen Martinez: yeah. Bonita Moss: little elephant so they can remember where it is. Ellen Martinez: Yeah, exactly. Mary Sutton: Yes. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. And and If there are more buttons then it will be more complicated. If you have less features then your remote controller won't be attractive, so I think uh we need to make some buttons which are which are like um uh f in uh in intended for two or three operations, like if you press one button in one mode then it will change the channel, if you press the other button in another mode it will change the colour. So if you want to have less Bonita Moss: Mm. Ellen Martinez: buttons we can have that option but I think it will complicate the matter more I think Bonita Moss: Well, Ellen Martinez: so. Bonita Moss: I think I think that that's something that we'll have to discuss um Ellen Martinez: Yep, Mary Sutton: Yes. Bonita Moss: with the User Ellen Martinez: yeah. Bonita Moss: Interface person because I think there's a lot of argument to be made for one button for one feature. Because I think one of the things were complaining about in my what I found out in my research is when they complained about how hard it is to learn a new one. Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: The changing modes was something Ellen Martinez: Yeah, it's like you Bonita Moss: I Ellen Martinez: know Bonita Moss: mean you Ellen Martinez: yeah. Bonita Moss: and I, all f all four of us we work Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: with computers all Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Bonita Moss: the time, Ellen Martinez: yeah. Bonita Moss: changing Mary Sutton: Okay. Bonita Moss: modes is nothing for us, but people who Dawn Waitman: Yeah, a little elderly, a little arthritic hand Bonita Moss: N Dawn Waitman: you Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: know, Bonita Moss: and Dawn Waitman: and and it's a small button and and Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: it they don't press it exactly you know something else happens n not their favourite channel comes up but something Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Dawn Waitman: else Mary Sutton: Something Ellen Martinez: yes. Dawn Waitman: and they're Mary Sutton: else. Dawn Waitman: very Bonita Moss: And Dawn Waitman: frustrated Bonita Moss: that's and that's Dawn Waitman: you Bonita Moss: the kind Dawn Waitman: know. Bonita Moss: of thing people learn by feel, and um Ellen Martinez: Yeah, yeah you don't Bonita Moss: you don't Ellen Martinez: us Bonita Moss: feel Ellen Martinez: yeah Bonita Moss: the Ellen Martinez: yeah, Bonita Moss: mode Ellen Martinez: usually. Bonita Moss: change. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: So um maybe having buttons be various shapes might be a help Ellen Martinez: Yeah Bonita Moss: too. Ellen Martinez: shapes also, different Bonita Moss: You Ellen Martinez: shapes. Bonita Moss: know, like the Ellen Martinez: Yeah Bonita Moss: a Ellen Martinez: that Bonita Moss: triangle Ellen Martinez: will Bonita Moss: is for the Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: volume and a square is for changing channels, Mary Sutton: Channels. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: so that people can Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: uh develop a tactile sense of it. But Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Bonita Moss: we'll get Dawn Waitman: Mm, Bonita Moss: to that with you. Dawn Waitman: mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: yeah, and Mary Sutton: Yes. Ellen Martinez: also text should be very clear so that there there won't be any ambiguities Bonita Moss: That's Ellen Martinez: and Bonita Moss: right, Ellen Martinez: uh Bonita Moss: yeah. Now that's Ellen Martinez: So Bonita Moss: a good point. Mary Sutton: Yes. Bonita Moss: Yeah. Ellen Martinez: yeah. And uh display clock i if you want more features then we can display a clock it I I don't think it will take any money extra money because anyway we have an integrated circuit I think we can just definitely fit that feature into the circuit so Bonita Moss: Yeah, Ellen Martinez: it's Bonita Moss: that's that's a good that's a good Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm, Bonita Moss: one, Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Mary Sutton: Mm Bonita Moss: because Ellen Martinez: and Mary Sutton: yeah. Ellen Martinez: we display Dawn Waitman: mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: the clock Ellen Martinez: a clock. Bonita Moss: would be really friendly, Dawn Waitman: Yes. Bonita Moss: and and Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: when is your favourite show Dawn Waitman: Yes. Bonita Moss: coming Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Bonita Moss: on Ellen Martinez: and Mary Sutton: Yes. Dawn Waitman: Yeah Ellen Martinez: then you Dawn Waitman: you're Ellen Martinez: can Dawn Waitman: sitting Ellen Martinez: just Bonita Moss: and Dawn Waitman: there Ellen Martinez: see your Dawn Waitman: already Ellen Martinez: remote Dawn Waitman: or maybe Ellen Martinez: controller Dawn Waitman: you have Ellen Martinez: yeah Dawn Waitman: no Ellen Martinez: yeah Dawn Waitman: other Ellen Martinez: yeah so Bonita Moss: Yeah, and a lot Dawn Waitman: uh Bonita Moss: of time there's not a clock on the screen, and you have Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: to go somewhere but you just wanna look at the news for a minute. Yeah that's that's good, the clock is good. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: Okay. Ellen Martinez: Uh can you go to the next Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: slide please? Uh components uh the main components we need for uh it ha like buttons and uh underneath that there should be switch. And uh bulbs. Like uh we can have a bulb like whenever we are operating a remote controller or uh whenever the T_V_ is on suppose, Mary Sutton: Hmm. Ellen Martinez: then the remote controller should automatically have a b s light. Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: Then it will be like if you switch on your T_V_ through anoth another source, not from through a remote remote controller and you you lost your remote controller maybe you can find with the light. Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: Maybe we can have that. Whenever the T_V_ is on, remote controller will have a light. Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: And then uh infrared bulbs. Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: Um this is like uh when it is dark. Dawn Waitman: Yeah, mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: And battery, there should be a battery for power supply, and Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: a chip, chip which is like a brain to the remote Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: controller which does all the operations, and wires connecting all chips, which is uh lights, everything, Dawn Waitman: Yeah. Ellen Martinez: so there should Mary Sutton: Okay. Ellen Martinez: be wires. And uh uh of course there should be a case where we can keep all the things and, you know different shapes or whatever it is there should be a case to put to give Mary Sutton: To Ellen Martinez: a Mary Sutton: keep Ellen Martinez: shape. Mary Sutton: the remote? Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Mary Sutton: Yeah. Bonita Moss: Case. Mary Sutton: A case holder. Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Mary Sutton: A holder Ellen Martinez: holder. Mary Sutton: remote Dawn Waitman: Holder, Mary Sutton: holder. Dawn Waitman: yeah, mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: Um uh can you move onto the next slide. Um next sli slide please. Um I have referred the site uh the homepage of the um our website, uh from where I have uh uh I got s few points. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: That's it, that's it from Bonita Moss now. Dawn Waitman: Okay. Bonita Moss: So it um we should visit this site and have a look at uh what's Ellen Martinez: Um. Bonita Moss: up there? Or Dawn Waitman: Well, you don't have to. Ellen Martinez: Uh it's not like that, I have referred the page to get new ideas or like Bonita Moss: Okay. Ellen Martinez: what can be the working design to how it works and all and Bonita Moss: Okay. Ellen Martinez: so and so. Bonita Moss: So it might be helpful if we had a look at that. Ellen Martinez: Yeah if you want. Bonita Moss: Okay, Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Bonita Moss: thank Ellen Martinez: it's Bonita Moss: you. Ellen Martinez: okay. Bonita Moss: Could you go back to that slide where she had that uh s slide up Betsy? Ellen Martinez: Uh, it's actually there now, there on the screen. Dawn Waitman: This one? Bonita Moss: Yeah, okay, thank you. Dawn Waitman: And Francine? Mary Sutton: Participant two. Dawn Waitman: You are Mary Sutton: Yes. Dawn Waitman: number two? Mary Sutton: No no, I'm three. Dawn Waitman: You're three. Mary Sutton: I can? Dawn Waitman: Would you want it Mary Sutton: Yes Dawn Waitman: full full Mary Sutton: yes Dawn Waitman: screen? Mm-hmm? Mary Sutton: yes. Dawn Waitman: Okay. Mary Sutton: Okay. As uh User Interface Designer I did a little research to find out what are the features which a user would like to have on their remote. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: Yeah can you please go onto the next Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: slide? So I found out that uh but uh the main purpose of a remote is to uh f control the function of a television at a far off distance at remote distance. Now for that, uh a remote controller should have a switch on off button by which a user can sit anywhere in the room in front Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: of the T_V_ and he can control the functionalities different functionalities of the T_V_. There should be a signal uh something like a radio wave or a infrared light or a LED which can be used to change the different functionalities in the television if the user wants to uh change the channels or increase the volume he can change it. Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: Now there should be some timer to set for viewing a particular a particular programme or switching on and off a uh a particular programme according to the user Dawn Waitman: On Mary Sutton: choice. Dawn Waitman: the on on the remote. Mary Sutton: Yes. Dawn Waitman: Yeah, mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: Yes. So if if he want to view a particular programme Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: at say nine o'clock Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: he can set the time, Dawn Waitman: Right. Mary Sutton: and the T_V_ will automatically it will switch on at that particular time. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: So he can use that kind of uh uh properties of features and then there should be a child lock system if a particular channel is not to be Dawn Waitman: Yes. Mary Sutton: viewed by a particular uh for Dawn Waitman: By Mary Sutton: a Dawn Waitman: your child, Mary Sutton: certain Dawn Waitman: mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: age, then the parents can lock that particular channel so that the ch children cannot view that Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: channel. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: And uh the uh the uh and the one of the feature a user would like to have is the compactness of the co remote. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: Uh t the remote should be compact and it should ha it should have as many buttons as possible for controlling different functionalities of the T_V_ television. And um uh as uh uh this is my personal preference that it should be in the shape of a T_ in alphabet for more compactability. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: And uh and uh and it is one more point which I noted it down, like uh the material which which which is used for remotes should be human friendly it should not cause any skin disease or something some al allergy Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: to either children or to um Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: ad Bonita Moss: Mm, Mary Sutton: adult Bonita Moss: 'kay. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: person. And it should have an uh it can have an alarm clock a a person if some if somebody wants to get up at around Ellen Martinez: Mm. Mary Sutton: eight eight P_M_ then he can set the time and it can be used as an alarm clock, Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: and I don't think it will cost much to set an alarm clock inside a Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Mary Sutton: remote. Ellen Martinez: sure. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: If there is a clock then there can be a Bonita Moss: And an Ellen Martinez: alarm Bonita Moss: alarm Mary Sutton: Yes, Bonita Moss: clock, Ellen Martinez: clock. Bonita Moss: yeah Mary Sutton: and Bonita Moss: that should Mary Sutton: as Bonita Moss: that should Mary Sutton: John Reece Bonita Moss: be okay. Mary Sutton: said the buttons can be, uh can Bonita Moss we can use the fluorescence to light up the buttons so different uh buttons will glow differently. So in even in the dark the user can know what buttons to use to switch on a particular channel. And uh uh the design of the uh um remote should be in such a way that there should not be any sharp projections so that if a child plays with a remote, he Ellen Martinez: Hmm. Mary Sutton: uh he should not be harmed in any way. And findings, uh I found out uh y um on different sites that uh there are different remotes which can be used, there are remotes which use the infrared for controlling the different functionalities, there are remotes which use the radio waves to control the functions and there are uh So uh there you have different uh types of remotes for different light source which are used which can be used for controlling the different functionalities of a television. Mary Sutton: Next slide. And these are my few personal preferences like it can be used for a multipurpose use. Not, uh no uh like it can it can be used as a T_V_ control as plus an alarm clock to set an alarm a timing and it should have a child lock, and then to save electricity uh there should not be uh much s move uh lots of circuits and all that. And if a person if if if parents wants the television to be switched off by ten o'clock then it should be switched off ten o at ten o'clock automatically, so that nobody else comes later Ellen Martinez: It's like Mary Sutton: and Ellen Martinez: a Mary Sutton: use it. Ellen Martinez: t okay, it's like a timer Dawn Waitman: Timer, yeah, Mary Sutton: Timer. Dawn Waitman: mm-hmm, Ellen Martinez: it's Dawn Waitman: mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: like a lock Mary Sutton: Yeah Ellen Martinez: to Mary Sutton: and Ellen Martinez: the television. Mary Sutton: then you can use a timer as well. Yes. Yeah that's it. Dawn Waitman: Uh okay, now I have Dawn Waitman: On my slide show basically we already we have already done the agenda, and uh on the closing uh basically there will be lunch break and all that. However uh the decision we have to take in this meeting is who is our target group. Mary Sutton: Okay. Dawn Waitman: And uh what function, working design, how how does it work. So these are the two things we should come up wit with. So uh the first thing is pro maybe a little easier on uh who is our target group. Um. I guess in many ways everybody. Everybody Ellen Martinez: Mm, Dawn Waitman: who has a T_V_. Ellen Martinez: T_V_, Mary Sutton: T_V_ Ellen Martinez: yeah. Mary Sutton: television we was. Dawn Waitman: Yeah, and I think today there are probably not many people who don't Ellen Martinez: Don't Dawn Waitman: have a T_V_. Ellen Martinez: T_V_, Dawn Waitman: There Ellen Martinez: yeah. Dawn Waitman: are a few but in general not. Now, talking about the target group which is in a sense everybody, but I think within the target group we have subgroups. We have we have earlier it was mentioned about um for example elderly people Mary Sutton: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: who have limited function with their fingers and hands, Ellen Martinez: Hmm. Dawn Waitman: so I think that's uh one group that's certainly important. Um then we have just the nervous people who can never press a little button on anything um unless it's really very clear. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: And uh I don't know how much we want to cater to children's use. I mean that's a question um whether that's important that children can really use it or not. Ellen Martinez: Mm. Dawn Waitman: So this these are just some thoughts I have on it, Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: group we're gonna design this one thing Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: or whether we're looking at what we like we we talking about different shapes, Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: whether that different shape also includes maybe different uh buttons Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: uh for different groups. Bonita Moss: Well you know there's the old motto, children under six never shop alone. Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Bonita Moss: So if you've designed something that's very attractive to children um the mummy please mummy please um you know we want it now we wanna go to the store and see it um that has uh a lot of Dawn Waitman: That has Bonita Moss: marketing Dawn Waitman: a lot of Bonita Moss: pull. Dawn Waitman: that has a lot of Ellen Martinez: Mm. Dawn Waitman: appeal but I think uh I'm I'm talking about the functionality now on it whether we're looking at different groups. I think the children issue can be addressed with the shape Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: and with colours. Bonita Moss: That's Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Mary Sutton: Different Bonita Moss: right. Dawn Waitman: You Mary Sutton: colours. Dawn Waitman: know, like you make it nice and pink, fluorescent, banana colour Mary Sutton: Yes. Dawn Waitman: or whatever Bonita Moss: You can make a banana Dawn Waitman: you Bonita Moss: shaped Dawn Waitman: know Bonita Moss: one. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: yeah, for example you know. Ellen Martinez: Mm. Dawn Waitman: But the question is really, who is our target group. Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: Do we look at one target group? And with the twenty five Euros you know can we can we afford to have uh I'm asking the technical people here whether um to look at sort of subgroups with maybe different buttons for each group how much would that throw us out of the cost we are supposed to Bonita Moss: Respect. Dawn Waitman: respect? Bonita Moss: Mm. Mary Sutton: Okay. No uh generally we can we can design a remote which is mainly for people with uh f age from ten to um forty Dawn Waitman: Right. Mary Sutton: and and then we can add on uh specific functional buttons for children as well as the elderly people or the people wit Dawn Waitman: With Mary Sutton: with Dawn Waitman: with Mary Sutton: who have nervous problems, Dawn Waitman: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: yes. Ellen Martinez: We can design different remotes for different people, like for aged people there will be big buttons and you Dawn Waitman: Well Mary Sutton: But Ellen Martinez: know. Mary Sutton: in Dawn Waitman: that's Mary Sutton: a Dawn Waitman: that's Mary Sutton: family Ellen Martinez: yeah. Children and everybody, yeah. Mary Sutton: They would like to buy just one and um just one which can be used all the three Ellen Martinez: Yeah Mary Sutton: uh Ellen Martinez: of course that we can do, but specifically if y if like elderly people want big buttons then you can't really make a bi big remote controller so maybe specifically you can design a big con remote controller for elderly and for children, Bonita Moss: What Ellen Martinez: like Bonita Moss: about Ellen Martinez: in a Bonita Moss: the Ellen Martinez: different Bonita Moss: electronics? Ellen Martinez: you know. Bonita Moss: That's Dawn Waitman: Yeah. Bonita Moss: not really gonna change Mary Sutton: Cost effective. Bonita Moss: much, is Ellen Martinez: No, Bonita Moss: it? Ellen Martinez: it it doesn't cost, Bonita Moss: That Dawn Waitman: No Ellen Martinez: yeah. Bonita Moss: that w that won't change much, will it Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Bonita Moss: uh? Ellen Martinez: Doesn't doesn't Dawn Waitman: The Bonita Moss: I d I Ellen Martinez: doesn't Dawn Waitman: the Bonita Moss: wouldn't Dawn Waitman: quest Ellen Martinez: matter. Bonita Moss: think Dawn Waitman: the Bonita Moss: so. Dawn Waitman: question to be addressed here is only who is the target group and how will it function, Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: and I think the how will it function is probably the question of the buttons you know, Bonita Moss: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: within the target group or subgroups. The question is only whether our budget will allow to have more than one design in a sense. Bonita Moss: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: I mean the basic design I understand will be the same, but the question is how much will that set us back if let's say uh forty percent we make large buttons and the rest Mary Sutton: Okay. Dawn Waitman: we make regular buttons Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: for example. Bonita Moss: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: So that remains to s to be seen but uh the target group as a whole is is basically everybody with a T_V_. Bonita Moss: That's right, Mary Sutton: Yes. Bonita Moss: and can we can we is it even feasible to make one one remote control with something for everyone, or would we have to use the same electronics and make three different shapes? Dawn Waitman: Yeah, well that's that's Bonita Moss: Um Dawn Waitman: the question. Bonita Moss: the same electronics and basically all that's gonna be different Ellen Martinez: Hmm Bonita Moss: is the plastic case. Ellen Martinez: hmm. Bonita Moss: And in that case we could probabl moulded plastic isn't all that expensive is it? Um you Ellen Martinez: Uh no. Bonita Moss: as an Ellen Martinez: Mm, Bonita Moss: industrial Ellen Martinez: I I Bonita Moss: person? Ellen Martinez: I don't think no. Dawn Waitman: Well maybe there's Ellen Martinez: It's Dawn Waitman: there's an idea Ellen Martinez: not. Dawn Waitman: you know t the new for example new portable phones? Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: They have like removable plastic cases, Bonita Moss: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: so you can have a striped one or you can have a fluorescent blue one, or whatever, Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: Okay. Dawn Waitman: and maybe something like that, that in each package you know you have Bonita Moss: Well there's a real Dawn Waitman: you Bonita Moss: idea Dawn Waitman: you Bonita Moss: yeah. Dawn Waitman: have you have for example uh you have let's say a fluorescent blue on it Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: but then you have uh another colour or stripe whatever that already comes in a package. Ellen Martinez: Hmm. Dawn Waitman: And Bonita Moss: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: then if people really want more colours they can buy it separately. Bonita Moss: Right. Ellen Martinez: Yeah, like Dawn Waitman: You Ellen Martinez: for Dawn Waitman: know, Mary Sutton: Um Ellen Martinez: mobile phones we Dawn Waitman: yes. Ellen Martinez: have uh different you know covers, Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: like Mary Sutton: Yes. Ellen Martinez: designs Dawn Waitman: That's right, Ellen Martinez: and Dawn Waitman: and Ellen Martinez: all Dawn Waitman: but Ellen Martinez: so that Dawn Waitman: like Ellen Martinez: w Dawn Waitman: if Ellen Martinez: we can Bonita Moss: Uh Dawn Waitman: if Ellen Martinez: have Bonita Moss: yeah. Dawn Waitman: then Ellen Martinez: that. Dawn Waitman: everybody is is is tired of the fluorescent blue and of the striped or whatever they have as another one in the package, then they can go to the store and for a few uh Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: Francs or Euros whatever they can buy Bonita Moss: An alternate package. Dawn Waitman: an alternate package with another two colours in it you know for example Bonita Moss: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: you Bonita Moss: Okay. Dawn Waitman: know. Mary Sutton: But uh yeah I I have a doubt like will it be cost wise effective if we if we design a remote having all the uh different features for different people or designing three different um remotes for three different categories of people. Dawn Waitman: Well I think Ellen Martinez: Yeah, but Dawn Waitman: I Bonita Moss: Well Ellen Martinez: uh Dawn Waitman: think Bonita Moss: I think Dawn Waitman: the Bonita Moss: we Dawn Waitman: idea Bonita Moss: can only Dawn Waitman: here is Bonita Moss: aff, Dawn Waitman: to uh to to Bonita Moss: yeah. Dawn Waitman: d design one remote Mary Sutton: Okay. Ellen Martinez: Yeah. Dawn Waitman: and what the only change is gonna be um the funct Bonita Moss: Cosmetic. Dawn Waitman: d t yeah Mary Sutton: Of th Dawn Waitman: uh Mary Sutton: okay. Dawn Waitman: the functional functional cosmetics if you Mary Sutton: Okay. Dawn Waitman: want to put it that way, Mary Sutton: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: um having maybe larger buttons or buttons that light up or buttons that are slightly differently shaped for people uh either for children um Five minutes that was I guess tha that's the old message. Bonita Moss: Warning, finish Dawn Waitman: Finish Bonita Moss: meeting Dawn Waitman: meeting Bonita Moss: now. Dawn Waitman: now. Um um. Bonita Moss: Well we may have to come back to one or Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Bonita Moss: two of these Ellen Martinez: maybe, Bonita Moss: points Ellen Martinez: yeah, Bonita Moss: at our next meeting but Ellen Martinez: yeah. Bonita Moss: um Dawn Waitman: But I think Ellen Martinez: If we do some more research, Dawn Waitman: I Ellen Martinez: maybe Dawn Waitman: I think Ellen Martinez: we. Dawn Waitman: to sum it up the target group is basically everybody. If money permits we can address some features for some subgroups Bonita Moss: Mm-hmm. Mary Sutton: Okay, Dawn Waitman: within that. Ellen Martinez: Hmm Mary Sutton: mm-hmm. Ellen Martinez: yeah, Bonita Moss: Okay Ellen Martinez: I Bonita Moss: but Dawn Waitman: Do Ellen Martinez: think Dawn Waitman: we Bonita Moss: we have Dawn Waitman: agree, Bonita Moss: to Ellen Martinez: maybe Bonita Moss: l Ellen Martinez: seventy Dawn Waitman: do we? Ellen Martinez: percent is a unique uh uh remote Dawn Waitman: Do we Ellen Martinez: controller Dawn Waitman: agree Ellen Martinez: and Dawn Waitman: on Ellen Martinez: thirty percent Dawn Waitman: on that Ellen Martinez: is Dawn Waitman: in Ellen Martinez: yeah Dawn Waitman: principle, Ellen Martinez: it's sort of Dawn Waitman: like Ellen Martinez: like yeah. Dawn Waitman: money will tell whether Ellen Martinez: Yeah, Dawn Waitman: we will Ellen Martinez: yeah, Dawn Waitman: be able Ellen Martinez: of Dawn Waitman: to Ellen Martinez: course, Dawn Waitman: do that Ellen Martinez: yeah. Dawn Waitman: or not. Bonita Moss: Okay, Mary Sutton: Yes. Bonita Moss: fair Dawn Waitman: Okay? Bonita Moss: enough. Ellen Martinez: Mm-hmm. Dawn Waitman: So now I understand it's lunch break. And um. So that's what we will do. Bonita Moss: Okay. Mary Sutton: Okay. Dawn Waitman: So hank you very much. Ellen Martinez: Thank you. Dawn Waitman: And we'll see you after lunch.

The meeting begins and Bonita Moss starts her presentation promptly, telling them that her research shows they need a focus- it is not possible to make a device that works on the whole house. Dawn Waitman steps in and informs them that they have instructions to eliminate the teletext idea because it is too complicated, and also said they must maintain the corporate image by using corporate designs and colors. Bonita Moss resumes, talking about how remotes often get lost and that a light emitter might be useful. Ellen Martinez gives her presentation, talking about components, materials, and energy sources. They discuss giving the control different shapes to suit both adults and children, making the buttons various shapes, and putting a display clock on the control. The interface designer presents, talking about the features users like on a remote and suggesting that they make the remote a T-shape and add an alarm clock function. They discuss their target group and the possibility of removable plastic cases. They close the meeting deciding to do more research on the plastic cases.

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Adriana Miyashiro: Two. Vickie Garcia: Hello. Jennette Cosper: Good Vickie Garcia: Hello. Jennette Cosper: morning. Andrea Silvis: Hello. Ah. Vickie Garcia: You have to put it exactly on the Andrea Silvis: Plate? Vickie Garcia: on the yeah. Jennette Cosper: Okay. Adriana Miyashiro: Good morning. Jennette Cosper: Good morning. Vickie Garcia: I took Jennette Cosper: Should Vickie Garcia: your mouse. Jennette Cosper: I bring my uh Vickie Garcia: Yeah Jennette Cosper: pen too? Vickie Garcia: just yeah, Jennette Cosper: Or Vickie Garcia: no, that's for Andrea Silvis, I just have to make some notes. Jennette Cosper: Okay. Vickie Garcia: I got my uh mouse. Andrea Silvis: Uh I also Adriana Miyashiro: Mouse. Andrea Silvis: my but I don't need my mouse, I think. Jennette Cosper: I do. Vickie Garcia: yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: Come on There. we are. Jennette Cosper: My laptop is crashing. Andrea Silvis: Damn computers. Jennette Cosper: Cr Jennette Cosper: Help help help. Adriana Miyashiro: Let's just check one more time. Mm. Andrea Silvis: Can you hear Andrea Silvis? Hello? Test. Vickie Garcia: Uh actually my laptop doesn't work, Andrea Silvis: I dunno. Vickie Garcia: switch it on again. Andrea Silvis: Check. Vickie Garcia: Oh no. Andrea Silvis: Okay. I think it works. Jennette Cosper: Test test. Yes, it's working. Vickie Garcia: So you all read what we are going to do or not? Andrea Silvis: Mm-hmm. Vickie Garcia: Okay. Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: We're gonna make a remote control. Vickie Garcia: Yeah, that's Jennette Cosper: I Vickie Garcia: right. Jennette Cosper: think my laptop is a bit etchy. Vickie Garcia: I just made a a simple uh presentation. So you put some things in it. Okay. Vickie Garcia: How does this work? I dunno. Adriana Miyashiro: One uh Jennette Cosper: Uh Adriana Miyashiro: most Jennette Cosper: p Adriana Miyashiro: to the right. Yes that one. Vickie Garcia: This one? Adriana Miyashiro: Yes. Andrea Silvis: Press F_ eleven. Vickie Garcia: Ah cool. Okay. So that's my name, Uh we're going to make uh a remote control, you already know that. Just have a look, are we going to uh this agenda of our meeting. You know, this is about twenty five minutes, this meeting. So um the thing we have to know is you already know what we're going to do, you also read what this the things or, Adriana Miyashiro: Yes. Vickie Garcia: not yet, okay. So um, yeah, it has to be original, trendy, user-friendly that's what we're going to design. Uh first we have uh uh three steps of uh making the the remote control. Fir the first thing is th the functional design, that's very important. We have to look what the needs are, the effects of the functional design, and and how the mm the the remote control works, so that's where we're going to look in the functional design, it's for the f next meeting. The the second thing is the conceptual design, that's what it that's uh the spe the specifications of the components and the properties and the specifications of the user interface. And we have to look what uh the market is doing for what kind of uh remote controls are in the market. And the third thing is uh the detailed design um and that's exa yeah, you know what it is, it's exactly how it looks and whatever. Okay so uh no, this is a these are two smartboards, with the uh f uh s an introduction of that one. And you already saw you know all that that you here can put uh things in the the red project uh map. Andrea Silvis: Folder, yes. Vickie Garcia: Folder, okay. So no okay have a look at that one. Okay. So uh what we're going to do first is um so you can read. You have to uh draw uh a favourite animal on the whiteboard and um and say why it's your favourite animal. So and you have this is just to try it out and we have to uh use a different pen colours and different thickness of the pen. So okay, so first have to show you, maybe you can come here to have a look how it works. Yes? Andrea Silvis: Ah I Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: can see Vickie Garcia: Okay. Andrea Silvis: it now. Vickie Garcia: This a new page, it's okay. Use pen format. and a different colour can use here no I just take the pink. You take oh there's no pink, okay, oh Adriana Miyashiro: Purple. Vickie Garcia: just purple, okay. No blue. And uh line width ten. Okay uh just take what I'm going to draw is an elephant. Just draw slowly, because otherwise it won't work. It's a very nice elephant, you can see. I dunno what it looks but it doesn't matter. Adriana Miyashiro: Looks very nice. Vickie Garcia: I just h Something like this? Oh no Yeah, Andrea Silvis: It look Vickie Garcia: okay. Andrea Silvis: like a dinosaurs. Vickie Garcia: Because I like uh okay. Adriana Miyashiro: A pink elephant. Vickie Garcia: Just takes so long, okay. Whatever, just. You erased this one. It's a bit slow you can see, this is a bit annoying. Andrea Silvis: Okay. Vickie Garcia: Okay, so just for you guys just one of you can draw a painting if you want. Andrea Silvis: Let Vickie Garcia: Just Andrea Silvis: Andrea Silvis try one. Vickie Garcia: don't um yeah, just u use it like that, yeah. That's okay. Andrea Silvis: Okay. Andrea Silvis: and then uh what's the colour? How do I do Vickie Garcia: It's in format. Yeah. Andrea Silvis: Ah. I'll take this one. Andrea Silvis: Uh Vickie Garcia: Just Andrea Silvis: there has to be water, but Vickie Garcia: No it has to be an animal, so if that's Andrea Silvis: Yeah Vickie Garcia: it's Andrea Silvis: yeah, Vickie Garcia: it should Andrea Silvis: but Vickie Garcia: be a shna Andrea Silvis: it's an Vickie Garcia: snake Andrea Silvis: animal Vickie Garcia: or something. Andrea Silvis: it's an Vickie Garcia: Okay. Andrea Silvis: animal Vickie Garcia: Okay Andrea Silvis: that lives Vickie Garcia: okay. Andrea Silvis: in the water. Adriana Miyashiro: The Vickie Garcia: Okay. Andrea Silvis: So I Jennette Cosper: Okay. Andrea Silvis: first uh draw the water. Adriana Miyashiro: water is important. Andrea Silvis: Uh. Okay, and now I make the animal. Andrea Silvis: It's a fish. Vickie Garcia: Okay, Jennette Cosper: Wow. Vickie Garcia: cool. Andrea Silvis: Mm-hmm. Andrea Silvis: So. Um This is a worm. Vickie Garcia: Hmm yeah, that's nice. Jennette Cosper: Wow. Andrea Silvis: Okay, who next? Vickie Garcia: Uh Andrea Silvis: Uh Vickie Garcia: do you have to write down why uh that doesn't matter, just it's to get used to the whiteboard, but it's okay. Andrea Silvis: Okay. Vickie Garcia: Just make a new blank new blank page. Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: Well Paul? Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Like this? Vickie Garcia: Yeah, not too far to the to the t pen top. Adriana Miyashiro: Okay. Um let's make it um a dog. Adriana Miyashiro: Ooh. Vickie Garcia: Maybe you should hold your pen a bit more to the back, so that no, to the yeah. Andrea Silvis: I Adriana Miyashiro: Ah Andrea Silvis: think Adriana Miyashiro: okay. Andrea Silvis: it's a pig. Adriana Miyashiro: A pig? I Vickie Garcia: No, Adriana Miyashiro: can Andrea Silvis: Or Vickie Garcia: it's Adriana Miyashiro: make. Andrea Silvis: a Vickie Garcia: a Andrea Silvis: dog. Vickie Garcia: dog. Andrea Silvis: A sheep? Adriana Miyashiro: Um Vickie Garcia: Uh we d only have twenty five minutes, so. Jennette Cosper: Take it easy. Adriana Miyashiro: 'Kay, I make a cat of it. Jennette Cosper: I I was gonna make a cat too. Vickie Garcia: Use your fantasy. Adriana Miyashiro: Oh, not too quick. Vickie Garcia: Just hold it more more to the back then you don't have Adriana Miyashiro: No I have it. Vickie Garcia: okay. Adriana Miyashiro: I just draw too quick I think. Okay, that's it. More. Vickie Garcia: No, that's okay, thank you. Adriana Miyashiro: It's just to get used to it. Jennette Cosper: Okay. Vickie Garcia: I thought these pens would be just um uh you write it down and you download it to Word, you already did it or no? Andrea Silvis: No. Vickie Garcia: No, not yet, Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: okay. Adriana Miyashiro: that's right, it but Vickie Garcia: But Adriana Miyashiro: you Vickie Garcia: it's Adriana Miyashiro: actually Vickie Garcia: just Adriana Miyashiro: got to write on the paper. Vickie Garcia: Sorry? Adriana Miyashiro: You really got to write on that Vickie Garcia: Yeah, I Adriana Miyashiro: paper. Vickie Garcia: know, but Andrea Silvis: Yeah yeah, Vickie Garcia: I Andrea Silvis: it's Vickie Garcia: d I Andrea Silvis: a real pen. Vickie Garcia: I thought it would be just in in in uh typed words in Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: Word, so Adriana Miyashiro: but it's Vickie Garcia: that's Adriana Miyashiro: just Vickie Garcia: not Adriana Miyashiro: a picture. Vickie Garcia: just it's just a picture. Andrea Silvis: Oh. Vickie Garcia: So Adriana Miyashiro: You Andrea Silvis: Y Adriana Miyashiro: really Andrea Silvis: you can Vickie Garcia: th thought it would be. Andrea Silvis: you can't edit in the edit it in Word. Adriana Miyashiro: No. Vickie Garcia: No. Andrea Silvis: Oh, okay. Adriana Miyashiro: It's a donkey. Vickie Garcia: I don't know, what time did we start this meeting, I'm not sure. Adriana Miyashiro: Uh I think it was uh Vickie Garcia: Half past. Andrea Silvis: Half past ten. Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Vickie Garcia: Okay. Andrea Silvis: Brilliant. Vickie Garcia: Okay, Jennette Cosper: Nice, Vickie Garcia: perfect. Jennette Cosper: eh? Andrea Silvis: Yep. Vickie Garcia: Yeah, thank you. Now we just have to save everything, so. Vickie Garcia: Oh this is definitely the best one. Jennette Cosper: Uh. Vickie Garcia: Okay, so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros. Jennette Cosper: Excuse Vickie Garcia: Okay, Jennette Cosper: Andrea Silvis. Vickie Garcia: that's. And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros, so we have to uh use a big market in Europe. Adriana Miyashiro: Piece of cake. Vickie Garcia: The production cost are about half the price of selling price, sorry. Adriana Miyashiro: Uh easy. Vickie Garcia: So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million, I dunno. Uh so we're gonna have a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the and everything, so just have a look how it we think about remote controls. Andrea Silvis: Yeah, my first question was does it have to be a a universal remote control? Vickie Garcia: Oh yeah, that's a good question. Andrea Silvis: Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television, we sell it uh apart. Vickie Garcia: I think it's I'm not Andrea Silvis: So Vickie Garcia: I'm Andrea Silvis: I Vickie Garcia: not sure, it's not mm Jennette Cosper: Yeah, it probably Vickie Garcia: I think Jennette Cosper: would be universal. Adriana Miyashiro: Universal. Andrea Silvis: Because Adriana Miyashiro: And only television? Or more devices? Vickie Garcia: I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros, so not sure, but Jennette Cosper: Hmm, maybe, Andrea Silvis: Yeah, I know Jennette Cosper: I don't Andrea Silvis: uh Jennette Cosper: know. Andrea Silvis: you can buy a re a universal uh control Vickie Garcia: Okay, Andrea Silvis: for Vickie Garcia: so Andrea Silvis: uh Vickie Garcia: we we just Andrea Silvis: only twenty Vickie Garcia: say we Andrea Silvis: uh Vickie Garcia: just Andrea Silvis: Euros Vickie Garcia: say that's universal remote Andrea Silvis: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: control. Adriana Miyashiro: Ah Andrea Silvis: I Adriana Miyashiro: okay. Andrea Silvis: think. Vickie Garcia: Okay, perfect. Jennette Cosper: And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player and Vickie Garcia: Yeah, everything just Jennette Cosper: okay. Vickie Garcia: so a lot of buttons on the remote control. Jennette Cosper: Yeah, probably. Adriana Miyashiro: Not just a T_V_. Vickie Garcia: No, just everything. Adriana Miyashiro: Okay. Andrea Silvis: Okay. Vickie Garcia: so yeah, what what what's a remote control, it's just a black thing with some buttons on it, it's not nothing very special, but um Adriana Miyashiro: Well we can try to make it special. Vickie Garcia: yeah, that's right. So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability Adriana Miyashiro: Well Andrea Silvis: Well I Vickie Garcia: or Andrea Silvis: th Vickie Garcia: user Andrea Silvis: I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television, we don't have uh the same television uh all the time, so uh that's no matter. Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear, because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it, so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons. Um I think it must be a very good control, so you can uh uh uh act uh use it from uh everywhere in your room, the the infrared Vickie Garcia: Hmm yeah. Andrea Silvis: uh thing must be from very good quality. Vickie Garcia: That's right. Should be a good point. Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Jennette Cosper: Okay. Adriana Miyashiro: Nothing Jennette Cosper: And how Adriana Miyashiro: N Jennette Cosper: big should Andrea Silvis: No. Jennette Cosper: it be? Andrea Silvis: Yeah. I dunno um Adriana Miyashiro: It shouldn't be too big, but I don't think we can make it too small, 'cause it has to have a lot of functions, so. Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think. Vickie Garcia: Just big enough for the buttons we have, that's Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Vickie Garcia: that's it. Adriana Miyashiro: Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: it opem. Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer, Andrea Silvis: Yes Adriana Miyashiro: maybe more trendy. Vickie Garcia: But you you you you think about uh uh one you can Adriana Miyashiro: Fold Vickie Garcia: fold Adriana Miyashiro: open, Vickie Garcia: open. Adriana Miyashiro: where Vickie Garcia: Okay, Adriana Miyashiro: you can see Vickie Garcia: yeah, that's Adriana Miyashiro: uh Vickie Garcia: cool. Adriana Miyashiro: more options. Andrea Silvis: Ah that's Adriana Miyashiro: I Jennette Cosper: Yeah Vickie Garcia: Maybe Adriana Miyashiro: think Andrea Silvis: that's Vickie Garcia: for Jennette Cosper: n Vickie Garcia: the D_V_D_ pla player or something, Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: if Adriana Miyashiro: something Vickie Garcia: you just Adriana Miyashiro: uh Vickie Garcia: okay. Andrea Silvis: Ah Jennette Cosper: Yeah, Andrea Silvis: right Adriana Miyashiro: on Jennette Cosper: or Adriana Miyashiro: top, Jennette Cosper: you c Adriana Miyashiro: just dren Andrea Silvis: right. Adriana Miyashiro: general things like volume and T_V_ channels and inside things you don't use that often. Vickie Garcia: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: Oh Jennette Cosper: O or Andrea Silvis: that's good, Jennette Cosper: you could Andrea Silvis: yeah. Jennette Cosper: th think of an uh uh a small touch screen on the remote control. Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah b Andrea Silvis: Yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: I wanted Vickie Garcia: Why should you use a touchscreen on a remote control? Jennette Cosper: Uh Vickie Garcia: There are buttons Jennette Cosper: maybe Vickie Garcia: on Jennette Cosper: be Vickie Garcia: it. Jennette Cosper: uh Adriana Miyashiro: No Jennette Cosper: it's Adriana Miyashiro: you can Jennette Cosper: it's Adriana Miyashiro: make an uh manual in it. Jennette Cosper: Yeah, or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small. Vickie Garcia: Okay. Andrea Silvis: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: But it's Andrea Silvis: but Vickie Garcia: not Adriana Miyashiro: But Jennette Cosper: Uh Vickie Garcia: t t Jennette Cosper: like Vickie Garcia: t Adriana Miyashiro: that's Vickie Garcia: too expensive Jennette Cosper: a a to Vickie Garcia: to Jennette Cosper: have Vickie Garcia: put a Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: touchscreen Adriana Miyashiro: I Andrea Silvis: Yeah Adriana Miyashiro: think Vickie Garcia: on Jennette Cosper: Yeah, Adriana Miyashiro: it's Vickie Garcia: it. Adriana Miyashiro: much Andrea Silvis: but Jennette Cosper: maybe it Adriana Miyashiro: uh Jennette Cosper: would. Adriana Miyashiro: too Andrea Silvis: it's Adriana Miyashiro: expensive. Andrea Silvis: not reachable I think, touch screen. And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control, Vickie Garcia: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and Vickie Garcia: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: it get Vickie Garcia: So. Andrea Silvis: often uh broken. Vickie Garcia: And if you have a touch screen in it, it's definitely too Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: too Andrea Silvis: Yeah Adriana Miyashiro: too Vickie Garcia: fragile Adriana Miyashiro: fragile. Andrea Silvis: and a Vickie Garcia: uh Andrea Silvis: lots Vickie Garcia: fragile. Andrea Silvis: uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh Vickie Garcia: No. Andrea Silvis: kids uh Vickie Garcia: You can put games Jennette Cosper: Kid-proof. Vickie Garcia: on your remote control. Whatever. Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: Um Jennette Cosper: And uh how about the batteries? Uh should you put it in a recharger or a Vickie Garcia: Oh maybe Andrea Silvis: Ma Vickie Garcia: that's Jennette Cosper: just Vickie Garcia: a good idea, Andrea Silvis: maybe Vickie Garcia: just to Andrea Silvis: a Vickie Garcia: put Andrea Silvis: home Vickie Garcia: it on Andrea Silvis: station. Vickie Garcia: your Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Vickie Garcia: television and just s recharge, you Jennette Cosper: Mm Vickie Garcia: never Jennette Cosper: yeah. Vickie Garcia: have to use any Adriana Miyashiro: Maybe Vickie Garcia: batteries. Adriana Miyashiro: that's a good idea, but yeah, we have to look at the price now I think. Vickie Garcia: Yeah, how Andrea Silvis: Yeah. Vickie Garcia: m how mu how how expensive Jennette Cosper: Yeah, I dunno. Vickie Garcia: uh is a normal recharger? Adriana Miyashiro: Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger? Vickie Garcia: I dunno. Jennette Cosper: Yeah, if you buy it uh separately from your phone Andrea Silvis: Ah Jennette Cosper: it's Andrea Silvis: yeah. Jennette Cosper: probably expensive, but I don't know what the project uh projection Adriana Miyashiro: Maybe Jennette Cosper: costs Adriana Miyashiro: have Jennette Cosper: are Adriana Miyashiro: uh Jennette Cosper: for such Vickie Garcia: Uh Jennette Cosper: a Vickie Garcia: if Jennette Cosper: thing. Vickie Garcia: you th look at the market, it's probably it's still the best way just to put batteries in it, because maybe Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: it's too expensive. Adriana Miyashiro: 'cause Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: well Andrea Silvis: Yeah, but a home station is uh a really good idea, because uh lots of people are uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is, and now Vickie Garcia: Yeah, Andrea Silvis: you can put Vickie Garcia: that's Andrea Silvis: it always Vickie Garcia: right, Andrea Silvis: at the same Vickie Garcia: yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: place. Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: Maybe it's Therefore it's a good idea, but maybe it's expensive. Adriana Miyashiro: Maybe uh use it as a separate option. Andrea Silvis: Yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: Sell it uh separately. Andrea Silvis: You can yeah, you can buy it with Jennette Cosper: Yeah, Andrea Silvis: it. Jennette Cosper: but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh Adriana Miyashiro: Rechargeable. Jennette Cosper: Yeah, and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Jennette Cosper: just put it in the station, or you can change your batteries, Andrea Silvis: Oh yeah. Jennette Cosper: so. Vickie Garcia: The option, just the option, that's Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Vickie Garcia: cool. Andrea Silvis: Uh I I set something on paper already, size, looks, uh usable, uh the buttons on usable places, uh the the on off button must be on top, Vickie Garcia: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: uh it Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: has to lay good in the hand, you you have to uh Vickie Garcia: Has it be has does it has to b have to be um uh like a different Andrea Silvis: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: form Andrea Silvis: I don't Vickie Garcia: than Andrea Silvis: I Vickie Garcia: a normal Andrea Silvis: don't know Vickie Garcia: remote control Andrea Silvis: I don't Vickie Garcia: or Adriana Miyashiro: Well Andrea Silvis: know if Adriana Miyashiro: I think Andrea Silvis: we Adriana Miyashiro: we have to look at that, 'cause well you can do the standard way, but then Andrea Silvis: You can Adriana Miyashiro: you Andrea Silvis: make Adriana Miyashiro: won't Andrea Silvis: it very special, to create our own Vickie Garcia: Yeah Andrea Silvis: um looks, but it's very hard to Jennette Cosper: N uh if if we want to make it special, we probably have to do a lot of testing, if it really works. Andrea Silvis: Nah. Adriana Miyashiro: Well you can um have uh the basic things on the same place, like on off button on top and the T_V_ channels one two three four as a block, Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: and then the volume uh obviously on t on top, so you can see. But the rest is uh you don't use that often, so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it, it should be clear as well. Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: So it Vickie Garcia: Yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think, so you can do something unique with that. Jennette Cosper: And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open, when you have it closed, you can still uh do the Andrea Silvis: Yeah yeah, what Jennette Cosper: th the Andrea Silvis: Paul Jennette Cosper: functions. Andrea Silvis: already said. Uh Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Vickie Garcia: Yeah, just Andrea Silvis: on Vickie Garcia: for the Andrea Silvis: on Jennette Cosper: But Andrea Silvis: top Vickie Garcia: T_V_ Andrea Silvis: are the Jennette Cosper: n Vickie Garcia: and just Jennette Cosper: yeah, Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: the normal Jennette Cosper: but Andrea Silvis: the Vickie Garcia: function, Adriana Miyashiro: yeah. Andrea Silvis: basic Jennette Cosper: uh Vickie Garcia: that's Andrea Silvis: options Vickie Garcia: fine. Jennette Cosper: i Andrea Silvis: on top, and Jennette Cosper: basically Andrea Silvis: if you fold it Jennette Cosper: when Andrea Silvis: open Jennette Cosper: I'm Vickie Garcia: But Jennette Cosper: watching Vickie Garcia: maybe Jennette Cosper: T_V_ Vickie Garcia: it's Jennette Cosper: I'm just using like five buttons or so, Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah. That's Jennette Cosper: so. Vickie Garcia: maybe it's Adriana Miyashiro: what Vickie Garcia: very Adriana Miyashiro: I meant. Vickie Garcia: hard to to make it fold open and to l look like it's very uh uh what's it's called? Andrea Silvis: Mm. If you if Adriana Miyashiro: Uh Andrea Silvis: if you make Vickie Garcia: Maybe Andrea Silvis: to fold Vickie Garcia: it's hard Andrea Silvis: open Vickie Garcia: t Andrea Silvis: it's or also an uh the strength uh is not s as good as a Vickie Garcia: No, Andrea Silvis: normal Vickie Garcia: that's right. So Andrea Silvis: uh Vickie Garcia: maybe Andrea Silvis: remote Vickie Garcia: we have Andrea Silvis: control. Vickie Garcia: to to uh keep it like mm a square, just normal remote control. Adriana Miyashiro: Okay, but yeah. Vickie Garcia: Just think Jennette Cosper: Yeah. Vickie Garcia: about it. We have to close this uh to finish this uh meeting, so. Jennette Cosper: Okay. Vickie Garcia: There's some more things. We have uh another thirty minutes, so then we're going to meet again. So you know what you have to what you have to do? Andrea Silvis: Okay. Vickie Garcia: Yeah. Andrea Silvis: Um for m for Andrea Silvis uh Andrea Silvis, the user requirements uh specification, do I need to think as a user, a as a a a only the looks and the Adriana Miyashiro: No, what you want to do with it. Vickie Garcia: Yeah, I think this if you you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_, a D_V_D_ player, all that things. Andrea Silvis: Okay. Vickie Garcia: Also from a user, but Andrea Silvis: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: all Andrea Silvis: it's also Vickie Garcia: these things together. Andrea Silvis: about strength Vickie Garcia: Yeah, Adriana Miyashiro: Yeah, Vickie Garcia: everything. Andrea Silvis: and Adriana Miyashiro: I Andrea Silvis: uh Adriana Miyashiro: also wrote down some Andrea Silvis: for Adriana Miyashiro: stuff Andrea Silvis: everything Adriana Miyashiro: that you want Andrea Silvis: uh. Vickie Garcia: Yeah, Adriana Miyashiro: on a Vickie Garcia: no maybe not not uh, that's not a f that's something for for Adriana Miyashiro: Technical Vickie Garcia: for yeah. Adriana Miyashiro: fun fu Vickie Garcia: That's not for you. Andrea Silvis: Okay. Vickie Garcia: Just if what's in the market, what's normal, uh what kind of Adriana Miyashiro: What Vickie Garcia: uh buttons Adriana Miyashiro: do you want Vickie Garcia: do Adriana Miyashiro: to Vickie Garcia: you Adriana Miyashiro: do Vickie Garcia: have. Adriana Miyashiro: with your remote control, what do you need on your remote control. I Vickie Garcia: Yeah, Adriana Miyashiro: already Vickie Garcia: it's alright. Adriana Miyashiro: wrote some down, some ideas. Andrea Silvis: Yep. Vickie Garcia: Yeah, just is that okay? Andrea Silvis: Okay. Adriana Miyashiro: Yep. Jennette Cosper: Okay. Vickie Garcia: Okay. Adriana Miyashiro: There's already a document in the folder Andrea Silvis: Yeah, Adriana Miyashiro: about Andrea Silvis: Andrea Silvis too. Adriana Miyashiro: it. Vickie Garcia: So see you in thirty minutes. Andrea Silvis: Okay, well Adriana Miyashiro: Okay. Andrea Silvis: done. Jennette Cosper: Okay. Vickie Garcia: For the next time you have to uh put it exactly on the square, so your laptop. Adriana Miyashiro: I will. Andrea Silvis: Oh Paul. Adriana Miyashiro: It didn't say that. Vickie Garcia: No, sorry. Adriana Miyashiro: Your fault. Andrea Silvis: Ciao. Adriana Miyashiro: Bye bye. Andrea Silvis: Bye bye.

Vickie Garcia introduced himself and the project to the group. He presented an agenda for the rest of the project. The group acquainted themselves with the meeting-room materials by drawing on the board. Vickie Garcia discussed the projected price point, profit aim, and production cost for the project. The group discussed their initial ideas about the product design. They decided to make the remote a universal remote. They discussed the form of the device; it was suggested that the device could have a folding-open design or a touch-screen interface. They discussed energy source options and could not decide between using standard batteries or a recharging stand. They also discussed how to make the remote look more unique; it was suggested that the remote could feature the folding-open design to hide complicated functions on the inside of the device. Vickie Garcia instructed Andrea Silvis to prepare the user requirement specification and to research which devices the remote will control.

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Carol Bulmer: Good. Pauline Capps: Beep. Oh. Elizabeth Langford: What? Carol Bulmer: So uh welcome everyone. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Um as you may have noticed I uh created separate folders because it was uh Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: tending to get a little busy in our uh shared project documents uh folder. I don't know if everybody uh put their own uh documents in the right folder, which is for now the detailed design meeting. Sarah Molina: That's new one? Elizabeth Langford: We Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: didn't make any uh Pauline Capps: Uh, we should save that Elizabeth Langford: Oh in Carol Bulmer: Then I'll move Pauline Capps: one. Carol Bulmer: this Elizabeth Langford: Didn't Carol Bulmer: one. Elizabeth Langford: we just do that? Pauline Capps: Yeah, save in the folder. Elizabeth Langford: Oh. Pauline Capps: Save as project. Carol Bulmer: Oh no, this is just one big document, so you can leave that wherever it is. Pauline Capps: Oh, okay. Hmm hmm. Carol Bulmer: And evaluation left. Okay. Pauline Capps: Agenda. Carol Bulmer: Well not main documents this time. Elizabeth Langford: Hmm? Carol Bulmer: Oh uh yes. I have it open myself I guess. Um well the detailed design meeting Huh? We're finally getting somewhere hopefully. Um what are we going to do? I've opened it already. Um I'm still going to take some minutes, Pauline Capps: Oh, sorry. Carol Bulmer: and if I'm right, you two are going to give a prototype presentation? Elizabeth Langford: We could. Carol Bulmer: Aren't you? Yes, you are. And uh m did you do something with evaluation criteria? Sarah Molina: Yep. Yep. Carol Bulmer: Good. And we have a correct agenda. And uh then we have to look at something which is less nice, the finance uh aspect, whether we can afford what we have designed, and Elizabeth Langford: Oops. Carol Bulmer: if we can we can uh commence the final part which is the production or project evaluation, how did we work together and what are the results, and how happy are we with those. Okay, well finance uh will be later. Now I'd like to give the word to you two. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Okay. Get up stand up. Elizabeth Langford: Well Pauline Capps: just Elizabeth Langford: uh we Pauline Capps: 'Kay. Elizabeth Langford: made a prototype. We first start with the overall uh This Pauline Capps: View. Elizabeth Langford: is about the total remote control. We made it Pauline Capps: Just example colour, so Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: uh there's one the colours we would to uh see Elizabeth Langford: It's a fresh Pauline Capps: our. Elizabeth Langford: colour. And uh the screen light blue. Oh uh this the scroll button and the microphone on the on the sides here under. And the R_ and R_ logo, it just says R_ and R_ now, but uh Pauline Capps: Okay? Elizabeth Langford: Any questions so far? Sarah Molina: Big microphone. Pauline Capps: yeah, just Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: uh just an idea about Sarah Molina: Oh okay. Pauline Capps: how to m th that could also be Sarah Molina: That's Pauline Capps: possible. Sarah Molina: the place where it's going to be, not Pauline Capps: Uh Sarah Molina: the size. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: well, it's an idea in a Elizabeth Langford: Oh y Pauline Capps: so. Elizabeth Langford: you perhaps you should make it a bit big, so people know it's there and uh Pauline Capps: Do not forget it. Elizabeth Langford: Uh Sarah Molina: Mm-hmm. Pauline Capps: To function it it doesn't really have to be sm uh big of course. Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: Hmm. Sarah Molina: okay. Pauline Capps: The microphone Sarah Molina: Of course. Pauline Capps: could be just a minor uh hole Sarah Molina: Mm. Pauline Capps: uh Sarah Molina: Mm, Pauline Capps: on the left Sarah Molina: th yeah. Pauline Capps: uh button. Sarah Molina: Small. Pauline Capps: Okay um we also made some uh ideas about how uh the options menu would work. Uh using the scroll button on sides uh y uh I uh um Elizabeth Langford: You push the scroll button Pauline Capps: Yeah, you push the scroll button Elizabeth Langford: and it's claps out if there's Pauline Capps: and a drop Elizabeth Langford: a Pauline Capps: down menu or a pull out menu comes out and uh you get uh you get the options uh becoming available. For example uh T_V_ settings, uh Elizabeth Langford: Remote settings, Pauline Capps: remote Elizabeth Langford: et cetera. Pauline Capps: settings, et cetera. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: So uh you can scroll down too with the scroll uh button, uh as you can see oh, it's here, just push it in, uh the menu comes out like this and uh i it all becomes visible. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Um Elizabeth Langford: And you could also touch it so that it comes Pauline Capps: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: out, and Pauline Capps: that's c Elizabeth Langford: and use Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: the the the scroll thing as a with your fingers. Pauline Capps: Indeed. Elizabeth Langford: Yes. Pauline Capps: Okay, um it's also uh nice to see that um we made a small uh menu, uh the options menu uh becoming available when pressing the uh scroll uh button, and the opportunity to use the teletext, whi which is used uh which should still be used and we think that it's uh very handy to put it uh not uh under the options menu, but in uh Yes. In an apart uh Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: So a separate button Pauline Capps: In a separate Carol Bulmer: for Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: button, Carol Bulmer: for text, Pauline Capps: yeah. Carol Bulmer: okay. Elizabeth Langford: Perhaps we should use the teletext sign in p Pauline Capps: A sign, Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Pauline Capps: yeah, just like Okay, indeed. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Okay, we can Elizabeth Langford: Forgot. Pauline Capps: uh modify that later. Okay. Would you like to make any comments about next Elizabeth Langford: Uh Pauline Capps: uh Elizabeth Langford: well, this is the total interface uh that f of the L_C_D_ screen. Uh the numbers, which is pretty straight forward. We put ano an an extra button in. We can erase it, but It's the button where you can switch channels. just when you are one and you go to two, you can or if you go to five, you can go back to one with that button. Yeah, Pauline Capps: Previous page, Elizabeth Langford: that Pauline Capps: yeah, Elizabeth Langford: one, yeah. Pauline Capps: indeed. Elizabeth Langford: It has a name. And uh Pauline Capps: Oh my God. Elizabeth Langford: uh we put that in, I thought it would be handy there. Uh this the one number or two numbers button. Below that, the page and the sound. And uh in the middle the the mute. Uh battery indicator. It's Pauline Capps: It's Elizabeth Langford: it's Pauline Capps: quite Elizabeth Langford: a bit Pauline Capps: large. Elizabeth Langford: big. And this is the uh the on off uh knop, the stand by uh knop. Or at least it should look like it. And the options uh Pauline Capps: Okay. Elizabeth Langford: of teletext. Pauline Capps: You can see very clearly now that the uh teletext and options menu isn't uh taking uh much uh uh it's taking much part of the screen, so it's very uh when you uh when you use it, doesn't uh become irritating to see. 'Cause Elizabeth Langford: Huh. Pauline Capps: if you put it on the top you always get see the the options menu. 'Cause people regularly uh read from left top to right down, so Carol Bulmer: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Well this about it, I think. Pauline Capps: Okay. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Huh. Carol Bulmer: Thank you. Elizabeth Langford: I will put Carol Bulmer: Looks Elizabeth Langford: it Carol Bulmer: good. Elizabeth Langford: back on the on Carol Bulmer: And Elizabeth Langford: the Carol Bulmer: I Elizabeth Langford: nice Carol Bulmer: just missed Elizabeth Langford: green. Carol Bulmer: when I was typing The R_R_ stands for? Elizabeth Langford: That's the logo of the Carol Bulmer: Logo, okay. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. It's th th Carol Bulmer: Okay well Elizabeth Langford: right now it's only R_ R_, but uh Pauline Capps: Full screen. Carol Bulmer: I would have recognised Sarah Molina: Shit. Carol Bulmer: it if it were the right colours of course. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Alright. Elizabeth Langford: Sorry. Sarah Molina: 'Kay. Carol Bulmer: Okay, the Elizabeth Langford: Oh full screen, Carol Bulmer: evaluation Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Pauline Capps: Huh. Carol Bulmer: criteria, huh? Sarah Molina: Evaluation. 'Kay, my task was this time to put up a questionnaire by we can evaluate of the remote control by the questions we requirements from the of the users My name, my job, okay. Pauline Capps: My name, Sarah Molina: The methods. Pauline Capps: my job. Sarah Molina: Questionnaire with seven point scale from one to seven, from true to false, like Elizabeth Langford: Right. Sarah Molina: question, is remote big enough, we can say it's true or it's false by steps. One means absolutely not true, seven means true. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: The three important things of refa Pauline Capps: Sorry, you used the PowerPoint Sarah Molina: are uh from th of this year is are, is the remote control fancy enough, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: is it in innovative enough, and is it easy enough to use. And then evaluation itself. Uh. Pauline Capps: What? Sarah Molina: So. Pauline Capps: Bling. Sarah Molina: Okay. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: First question. Is the design fancy enough? Elizabeth Langford: Well Sarah Molina: Project Manager, what do you think? Carol Bulmer: Well it's looks fancy, especially with the Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: green colour. Sarah Molina: But does it Carol Bulmer: And the the curves which we decided, huh? Sarah Molina: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Only what happened to the single curve we spoke Pauline Capps: Now uh Carol Bulmer: about Elizabeth Langford: It uh Pauline Capps: the single Elizabeth Langford: oh Carol Bulmer: last Elizabeth Langford: it's Carol Bulmer: meeting? Pauline Capps: curved Elizabeth Langford: in the background. Pauline Capps: idea was Elizabeth Langford: Oh. Pauline Capps: uh Yeah, okay, you ge um Elizabeth Langford: Y you should make uh a sideways Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: uh view. Pauline Capps: The sideways view, uh that that that Elizabeth Langford: It Pauline Capps: ma Elizabeth Langford: will be, I guess. Oh, Pauline Capps: Ho not Elizabeth Langford: we Pauline Capps: that Elizabeth Langford: can Pauline Capps: pen. Not that Elizabeth Langford: Oh Pauline Capps: pen. Elizabeth Langford: g I would Carol Bulmer: Well it might Elizabeth Langford: smart Carol Bulmer: work one Elizabeth Langford: board. Carol Bulmer: time, huh. Elizabeth Langford: Uh can I draw here or uh Pauline Capps: Suppose so. Sarah Molina: Think. Elizabeth Langford: Ooh. Pauline Capps: Ah. Sarah Molina: Yeah, yeah, Pauline Capps: Oh Sarah Molina: you can. Pauline Capps: my Elizabeth Langford: So Pauline Capps: God, it Elizabeth Langford: it Pauline Capps: works. Elizabeth Langford: would be uh something like this from the side, but with a bit of uh curve here, right? Pauline Capps: Yeah, that's the single curve indeed. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. So if you v flip it like this. Pauline Capps: Yep. Carol Bulmer: Okay. Elizabeth Langford: Here's Pauline Capps: That's Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Pauline Capps: not very i it's also uh very handy if you make a side curve way to make the the remote control very thin at the bottom uh at a bottom at a bottom. Uh make it uh rather thick on the top, because uh on the top it has uh the screen, which takes uh in some uh space, and the batteries can be located over there, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: so Elizabeth Langford: So Pauline Capps: uh Elizabeth Langford: you just make the back of this part a bit bigger, so that Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: it lays Sarah Molina: Isn't Elizabeth Langford: a Sarah Molina: going Elizabeth Langford: bit Sarah Molina: to Elizabeth Langford: o Sarah Molina: be a little bit heavy at the top? Pauline Capps: No. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, that's a bit of problem maybe. Sarah Molina: With two batteries, the whole print plate and t and Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: top, and if you're holding it Elizabeth Langford: I think yeah, the Sarah Molina: quite Elizabeth Langford: battery Sarah Molina: a Elizabeth Langford: should Sarah Molina: lot Elizabeth Langford: be in here, Sarah Molina: I think Elizabeth Langford: because it's Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: just nothing, Sarah Molina: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: so if you could Pauline Capps: Okay, indeed. Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. 'Cause Carol Bulmer: Okay, Elizabeth Langford: otherwise Carol Bulmer: but we Elizabeth Langford: I Carol Bulmer: have Elizabeth Langford: think Carol Bulmer: to Elizabeth Langford: i Carol Bulmer: rate uh Sarah Molina: Yeah, we have to rate. Carol Bulmer: these things Sarah Molina: Is Carol Bulmer: now? Sarah Molina: it Carol Bulmer: Okay. Sarah Molina: fancy enough? True is one, false is seven. So fancy enough means, does it comes to the younger people and the elder people. Elizabeth Langford: I think it Pauline Capps: I think Elizabeth Langford: does. Pauline Capps: so. Sarah Molina: I think Elizabeth Langford: I Pauline Capps: It's pretty Elizabeth Langford: if you Pauline Capps: fancy. Elizabeth Langford: don't make it green, then the elder people won't won't Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: like Sarah Molina: I have Elizabeth Langford: it. Sarah Molina: to agree, all the colour colours don don Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: you Sarah Molina: doesn't Pauline Capps: get Sarah Molina: matter Pauline Capps: th Sarah Molina: that m that much now, it's Carol Bulmer: Mm-hmm. Sarah Molina: only design. Elizabeth Langford: I think it does. Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Sarah Molina: And the design. Carol Bulmer: Well I think Pauline Capps: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: uh especially because of the microphone and the L_C_D_ screen Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. I don't know Carol Bulmer: also. Elizabeth Langford: whether older people will use Carol Bulmer: Very Elizabeth Langford: it, Carol Bulmer: new Elizabeth Langford: but Carol Bulmer: thing. Well Sarah Molina: So Carol Bulmer: Fancy Elizabeth Langford: I Carol Bulmer: the Elizabeth Langford: would Carol Bulmer: old Elizabeth Langford: make it Carol Bulmer: people Elizabeth Langford: a two Carol Bulmer: will. Elizabeth Langford: or something. Sarah Molina: A two? Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Huh? Pauline Capps: It's true, it's a one. Elizabeth Langford: Alright, it's a one. Pauline Capps: Very Elizabeth Langford: Oh Pauline Capps: fancy. Carol Bulmer: No, it's a two. Elizabeth Langford: it's a one. Carol Bulmer: Little bit strange we have to judge that ourselves, huh? Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: I n used I wouldn I should use that one, but it doesn't Elizabeth Langford: But it's a one uh Sarah Molina: Okay, Elizabeth Langford: Maybe Sarah Molina: no Elizabeth Langford: uh Sarah Molina: it's two? True is a one. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Very true, is it very true or isn't that true? Carol Bulmer: Well Elizabeth Langford: Well Carol Bulmer: I'd Elizabeth Langford: they Carol Bulmer: say Elizabeth Langford: think Carol Bulmer: two Elizabeth Langford: it's very Carol Bulmer: on a scale Elizabeth Langford: true, but Pauline Capps: It's very Elizabeth Langford: uh Pauline Capps: true, Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: because Sarah Molina: I think Pauline Capps: we designed Sarah Molina: two. Pauline Capps: it to be very fancy, so Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but Pauline Capps: It's very fancy, I think. Elizabeth Langford: We should Pauline Capps: Have you ever Elizabeth Langford: perhaps Pauline Capps: seen a remote control like this? Carol Bulmer: No, okay well, Pauline Capps: No, Carol Bulmer: that's Pauline Capps: okay, Carol Bulmer: true. Pauline Capps: so Sarah Molina: That's Elizabeth Langford: That Pauline Capps: so Sarah Molina: fancy Elizabeth Langford: not. Pauline Capps: it's fancy. Sarah Molina: enough. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Then? Carol Bulmer: Okay, one two. That doesn't matter that much, Sarah Molina: Okay. Carol Bulmer: so Pauline Capps: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: make it a one. Sarah Molina: Let's give it a two. Is it innovative? Elizabeth Langford: I think Sarah Molina: Enough. Elizabeth Langford: it is, because it has Carol Bulmer: Yeah Elizabeth Langford: an L_C_D_ Carol Bulmer: m Elizabeth Langford: screen, a mi microphone. Pauline Capps: And uh Sarah Molina: We have Elizabeth Langford: It's Sarah Molina: for Elizabeth Langford: from Sarah Molina: the search Elizabeth Langford: rubber. Pauline Capps: uh the scroll Sarah Molina: function. Pauline Capps: is rubber, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: so s Sarah Molina: The scroller Pauline Capps: Eno Sarah Molina: a bit I think Pauline Capps: enough Sarah Molina: it's Pauline Capps: to Elizabeth Langford: It's Pauline Capps: I Elizabeth Langford: a one Pauline Capps: think. Sarah Molina: it's a Elizabeth Langford: I Sarah Molina: one Elizabeth Langford: think. Sarah Molina: yeah. True. Also huh uh-huh the buttons, are they easy to find? That was a big requirement of the old people. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, because they're right on your screen. So you can use the b the the arrows. Pauline Capps: Huh. Elizabeth Langford: They're right on your screen, so I don't know where you'd Pauline Capps: With the ones Elizabeth Langford: search. Sarah Molina: Are all the buttons Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: easy to find? Not only this buttons, all the buttons. Elizabeth Langford: Well, I think they are. The Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: options are it uh little bit harder, but if you Pauline Capps: Take Elizabeth Langford: touch Pauline Capps: a harder Elizabeth Langford: the Pauline Capps: look, Elizabeth Langford: options Pauline Capps: yeah, Elizabeth Langford: then Pauline Capps: sure. Elizabeth Langford: it's uh Sarah Molina: I think th it's Pauline Capps: It's easier Sarah Molina: easy t Pauline Capps: than the regular uh remote control. Sarah Molina: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Sarah Molina: I Carol Bulmer: and Sarah Molina: think Carol Bulmer: you use Sarah Molina: this is easy Carol Bulmer: these Sarah Molina: now. Carol Bulmer: buttons Sarah Molina: I think Carol Bulmer: the most, Sarah Molina: th I think Carol Bulmer: huh? Sarah Molina: the Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: options Carol Bulmer: So Sarah Molina: buttons are not the the easiest way to to Elizabeth Langford: No they're not, but they're Sarah Molina: to Elizabeth Langford: they're Sarah Molina: handle. Elizabeth Langford: they are easy to find. Sarah Molina: True. I Pauline Capps: Yeah, Sarah Molina: would rate Pauline Capps: they Sarah Molina: it Pauline Capps: are Sarah Molina: a Pauline Capps: a lot easier to find than uh th than on the regular remote controls where you have Elizabeth Langford: Oh. Pauline Capps: to uh find out what which sign or icon means on uh every Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: button. Sarah Molina: okay, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: that's true, that's Pauline Capps: So Carol Bulmer: So Sarah Molina: true. Pauline Capps: you have t you Carol Bulmer: which Pauline Capps: have to use the Sarah Molina: But Pauline Capps: the Sarah Molina: that's Pauline Capps: the Sarah Molina: that's vantage Pauline Capps: manual Sarah Molina: of L_C_D_ Pauline Capps: to Sarah Molina: screen, Pauline Capps: understand Sarah Molina: you can have Pauline Capps: most Sarah Molina: text. Carol Bulmer: So Pauline Capps: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: which number are we going Elizabeth Langford: I would Carol Bulmer: to Pauline Capps: I Carol Bulmer: fill Elizabeth Langford: say Pauline Capps: think Carol Bulmer: in? Pauline Capps: it's Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Pauline Capps: uh it's a two, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: at least. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: A Elizabeth Langford: you Carol Bulmer: two, Elizabeth Langford: can make Carol Bulmer: yeah? Elizabeth Langford: it a two. Carol Bulmer: Two, Sarah Molina: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: three Pauline Capps: It's not Carol Bulmer: and Pauline Capps: perfect, Carol Bulmer: what do you Pauline Capps: but Carol Bulmer: think? Sarah Molina: I think it's a three. Pauline Capps: A three? Carol Bulmer: Okay, Pauline Capps: And Carol Bulmer: so Pauline Capps: why Carol Bulmer: we Pauline Capps: is Sarah Molina: I Carol Bulmer: have Pauline Capps: that? Sarah Molina: personally Carol Bulmer: two, Sarah Molina: think, because Carol Bulmer: two, Sarah Molina: I d I don't Carol Bulmer: three. Sarah Molina: think i maybe it's easy to use, it has to be easy to find right away. I I think if you have the button at the right, I don't think you can find the option Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but Sarah Molina: button Elizabeth Langford: you don't have Sarah Molina: that Elizabeth Langford: t Sarah Molina: easy. Elizabeth Langford: have to use the button on the right. Sarah Molina: You Elizabeth Langford: You Sarah Molina: can Elizabeth Langford: can touch it. Sarah Molina: touch it. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: It said bo Elizabeth Langford: You you Pauline Capps: both Elizabeth Langford: can touch Pauline Capps: the Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: options. Elizabeth Langford: options. Sarah Molina: okay, but you have y then you have here s written option on here, the teletext button, right? Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Okay, then okay, good. Then I think also two, yeah. Elizabeth Langford: You can touch options and Carol Bulmer: A Elizabeth Langford: it's Carol Bulmer: two, Elizabeth Langford: comes Carol Bulmer: okay, Elizabeth Langford: out. Sarah Molina: Yep. Pauline Capps: A Carol Bulmer: because Pauline Capps: two, Carol Bulmer: we have Pauline Capps: a two. Carol Bulmer: to Elizabeth Langford: The uh the Carol Bulmer: It's Elizabeth Langford: um Pauline Capps: Uh Carol Bulmer: the Pauline Capps: the Carol Bulmer: box Pauline Capps: next Carol Bulmer: below Elizabeth Langford: Below. Pauline Capps: question Carol Bulmer: it, huh? Pauline Capps: the next question. Oh my God. Carol Bulmer: Otherwise we have two results in one question. Elizabeth Langford: It's different. Carol Bulmer: Okay, next Sarah Molina: It's Carol Bulmer: question. Sarah Molina: easy to use, as well for younger as elderl elderly people. Elizabeth Langford: For young people I think it's easy to use. Sarah Molina: Young means Pauline Capps: Yeah, Sarah Molina: sixteen Pauline Capps: I was Sarah Molina: to forty years. Pauline Capps: uh Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: And elderly from forty Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: eight to their Elizabeth Langford: I think Sarah Molina: death. Elizabeth Langford: it's Pauline Capps: I think it's the most useful uh remote control ever to be manufactured. Carol Bulmer: Okay, you're very enthusiastic Sarah Molina: Also Carol Bulmer: about Elizabeth Langford: In the entire Carol Bulmer: your Sarah Molina: if Carol Bulmer: own Sarah Molina: you're Carol Bulmer: design, Elizabeth Langford: mankind. Pauline Capps: Yeah, Sarah Molina: sixty Pauline Capps: but Carol Bulmer: huh? Pauline Capps: because Sarah Molina: years Pauline Capps: it has Sarah Molina: old Pauline Capps: the regular uh controls, li uh as you can see in the screen now, and uh So it's Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: t I think it's really easy to use. You want Sarah Molina: Also Pauline Capps: these options Carol Bulmer: As well for Pauline Capps: to Carol Bulmer: the for the older Sarah Molina: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: people? Sarah Molina: as well Pauline Capps: Uh sure. Sarah Molina: as your if you're fif sixty years old, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but uh Sarah Molina: you're holding one of those things in your Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Sarah Molina: hand No, Elizabeth Langford: right? Sarah Molina: but we're going Elizabeth Langford: So Sarah Molina: to th make this f for a all kind of people, Carol Bulmer: And Sarah Molina: so it it Carol Bulmer: would Sarah Molina: it Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: it Sarah Molina: has Elizabeth Langford: okay, Carol Bulmer: be easy Sarah Molina: to Elizabeth Langford: but Sarah Molina: be Elizabeth Langford: so Carol Bulmer: for them Elizabeth Langford: they could Carol Bulmer: to use the speech recognition? Elizabeth Langford: Uh I think it is. If they read a manual. Carol Bulmer: Because that might Sarah Molina: If Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Sarah Molina: you Carol Bulmer: Okay, Sarah Molina: read Pauline Capps: Perhaps Sarah Molina: the Carol Bulmer: well Pauline Capps: that Sarah Molina: manual, Pauline Capps: is Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Pauline Capps: one of the Elizabeth Langford: alright. Pauline Capps: most Sarah Molina: always. Pauline Capps: uh Carol Bulmer: M Elizabeth Langford: Because Carol Bulmer: maybe Pauline Capps: Uh Elizabeth Langford: it Pauline Capps: because Carol Bulmer: that's Elizabeth Langford: it's Carol Bulmer: the Pauline Capps: a lot Carol Bulmer: most Elizabeth Langford: not Pauline Capps: of Elizabeth Langford: it's Carol Bulmer: user Elizabeth Langford: not Carol Bulmer: friendly Elizabeth Langford: it's Carol Bulmer: and Elizabeth Langford: it's not Carol Bulmer: easy to Elizabeth Langford: uh difficult. Carol Bulmer: use. Elizabeth Langford: You say you say uh Pauline Capps: Channel Elizabeth Langford: record Pauline Capps: one, channel four, yeah. Elizabeth Langford: to to the to the speech recognition, then you say the question and the answer. And that's everything it does, the speech recognition. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, well maybe that would make it even Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: more easy to use for Elizabeth Langford: I Carol Bulmer: them. Elizabeth Langford: think it would Pauline Capps: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: make Pauline Capps: I think Elizabeth Langford: it uh Pauline Capps: it does. Sarah Molina: So Pauline Capps: Because all the people who can't uh Elizabeth Langford: I would make it two. Sarah Molina: Also two? Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Uh Sarah Molina: Not Pauline Capps: a Sarah Molina: a seven Pauline Capps: two. Sarah Molina: for this? Pauline Capps: Sure, two. Oh. Carol Bulmer: I'd say three. Elizabeth Langford: Three? Sarah Molina: I would also say three. Elizabeth Langford: Oh. Carol Bulmer: Okay, Elizabeth Langford: You? Carol Bulmer: so we have three three two two or Pauline Capps: Two. Elizabeth Langford: Oh. Well Carol Bulmer: So what are we going to do? Elizabeth Langford: Two and a Carol Bulmer: Okay, a three, I see. Elizabeth Langford: half. Carol Bulmer: Uh Elizabeth Langford: Three? Pauline Capps: Give Elizabeth Langford: No. Pauline Capps: Sarah Molina more. Carol Bulmer: Another question. Sarah Molina: Remotes overwhelmed with buttons. Elizabeth Langford: No. Pauline Capps: No. Carol Bulmer: No. Sarah Molina: No, that that's that's Elizabeth Langford: But Sarah Molina: yeah. Elizabeth Langford: um I mean, Sarah Molina: Tha Elizabeth Langford: that's Sarah Molina: that's a one, Elizabeth Langford: definitely Sarah Molina: I think, Elizabeth Langford: one. Sarah Molina: that's definitely Pauline Capps: That's Sarah Molina: a Pauline Capps: definitely Sarah Molina: one. Pauline Capps: our Elizabeth Langford: Oh nee, Pauline Capps: uh Elizabeth Langford: oh seven is it? It is. Sarah Molina: No? Oh Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Sarah Molina: yeah. Elizabeth Langford: uh the remote Pauline Capps: A Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Pauline Capps: false, Elizabeth Langford: score. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Pauline Capps: yeah. Carol Bulmer: but I think you should make it one scale with with one Sarah Molina: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: being good and Sarah Molina: I think Carol Bulmer: seven being Sarah Molina: isn't, Carol Bulmer: bad, because Sarah Molina: this Carol Bulmer: otherwise Sarah Molina: has to be Carol Bulmer: we can't uh Sarah Molina: something Elizabeth Langford: It's not Sarah Molina: like Elizabeth Langford: overwhelmed. Carol Bulmer: calculate anything Sarah Molina: isn't Carol Bulmer: from Sarah Molina: overwhelmed. Carol Bulmer: the Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: results, so Pauline Capps: Yeah, indeed. Sarah Molina: True. Carol Bulmer: Okay, Elizabeth Langford: Yep. Carol Bulmer: a one, because we designed for that, Sarah Molina: Remote Carol Bulmer: huh? Sarah Molina: control has uh colours that different Elizabeth Langford: Yes. Sarah Molina: that meet different target groups. Elizabeth Langford: 'Cause we make them in different colours, so Sarah Molina: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: that they Pauline Capps: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: uh Pauline Capps: is optional. Sarah Molina: That's Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Sarah Molina: true. Carol Bulmer: and I though w we had about single colours, but you can also make uh a wood colour, not just one single colour but a Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: wood-like Pauline Capps: Huh. Elizabeth Langford: That it that it looks Carol Bulmer: thing, can't Elizabeth Langford: like Carol Bulmer: you? Elizabeth Langford: wood, Sarah Molina: Also Elizabeth Langford: like Sarah Molina: with Elizabeth Langford: something, Sarah Molina: rubber? Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Uh I think you Carol Bulmer: Whether Elizabeth Langford: can. Carol Bulmer: it looks like wood, it isn't w it Sarah Molina: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: isn't Sarah Molina: okay. Carol Bulmer: wood but Elizabeth Langford: It it feels like rubber, Carol Bulmer: You can make Elizabeth Langford: but Carol Bulmer: a print on rubber, can't you? Pauline Capps: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Yeah? Elizabeth Langford: Well Carol Bulmer: So Elizabeth Langford: but Carol Bulmer: that's Elizabeth Langford: then Carol Bulmer: a one Elizabeth Langford: when Carol Bulmer: then, Elizabeth Langford: you Carol Bulmer: huh? Elizabeth Langford: scratch it it does come Sarah Molina: That's Elizabeth Langford: off. Sarah Molina: a one? Okay. Pauline Capps: Yeah, it Elizabeth Langford: So Pauline Capps: is Elizabeth Langford: that's Pauline Capps: it is Elizabeth Langford: a bit Pauline Capps: harder Carol Bulmer: Do you Pauline Capps: to Carol Bulmer: have many questions? Sarah Molina: Uh I have Pauline Capps: to like Carol Bulmer: Oh, okay well Elizabeth Langford: Oh we have Pauline Capps: Geez. Elizabeth Langford: time. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, but we have Pauline Capps: We're Carol Bulmer: We Pauline Capps: getting Carol Bulmer: also Pauline Capps: paid. We're Carol Bulmer: We Pauline Capps: getting paid. Sarah Molina: The material Carol Bulmer: have to get Sarah Molina: used Carol Bulmer: to the Sarah Molina: is Carol Bulmer: money. Sarah Molina: spongy, that that's uh that's a one, that's m rubber. Elizabeth Langford: What? Carol Bulmer: What Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: spongy. Elizabeth Langford: yeah, it's very spongy. Pauline Capps: Uh. Sarah Molina: Yeah, I th Elizabeth Langford: Oh but not it's not very Sarah Molina: think Elizabeth Langford: spongy, Sarah Molina: it's not Elizabeth Langford: because Sarah Molina: the Elizabeth Langford: it's Sarah Molina: most Elizabeth Langford: hard rubber. Sarah Molina: spongy thing. Elizabeth Langford: I think it's a three. Pauline Capps: Yeah, Sarah Molina: Yeah. Pauline Capps: it's a three, Carol Bulmer: Uh-huh, yeah. Pauline Capps: because you want to make it uh Elizabeth Langford: Hard Pauline Capps: rather Elizabeth Langford: but Pauline Capps: flexible but not too flexible, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: because Elizabeth Langford: You can Pauline Capps: it has Elizabeth Langford: break Pauline Capps: a L_C_D_ Elizabeth Langford: it. Pauline Capps: screen. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Remote control Pauline Capps: Hard Sarah Molina: is hard to Pauline Capps: to Sarah Molina: lose. Pauline Capps: lose, yeah it sh Elizabeth Langford: Y yeah, you could you Pauline Capps: and Elizabeth Langford: could Pauline Capps: it's Elizabeth Langford: call Pauline Capps: easy Sarah Molina: Y Pauline Capps: to Elizabeth Langford: it. Sarah Molina: you Pauline Capps: find. Sarah Molina: can't you can't lose it if you're sixty years old. If first time see the thing you didn didn't adjust uh set the microphone, and then you Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Sarah Molina: lose it, then you have lost Elizabeth Langford: y you Sarah Molina: it. Elizabeth Langford: can lose it, but it isn't hard to lose. Sarah Molina: It isn't hard, no. I think I think this is a two, personally. Elizabeth Langford: Two. That it's hard to lose? Sarah Molina: No. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, it it is Pauline Capps: Isn't hard Elizabeth Langford: there's Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: the Pauline Capps: to Elizabeth Langford: it's Pauline Capps: lose. Carol Bulmer: so isn't Elizabeth Langford: a six, Carol Bulmer: hard to lose Elizabeth Langford: you think? Pauline Capps: Isn't hard to lose, yeah. Carol Bulmer: you. Sarah Molina: Isn't hard to lose. Elizabeth Langford: So it's a two. Yeah, you can lose it, so I don't Sarah Molina: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: you can make Sarah Molina: You Elizabeth Langford: it Sarah Molina: can't Elizabeth Langford: a Sarah Molina: lose Elizabeth Langford: three Sarah Molina: it. Elizabeth Langford: I It Sarah Molina: Or Elizabeth Langford: does have Sarah Molina: if you're Elizabeth Langford: an Sarah Molina: you're Elizabeth Langford: a Sarah Molina: sixty Elizabeth Langford: built in Sarah Molina: years Elizabeth Langford: function. Sarah Molina: old, Carol Bulmer: Yeah, but a har Sarah Molina: your demands Carol Bulmer: A hard to lose is good. So it should this Elizabeth Langford: Nee. Carol Bulmer: question should be hard to lose. Elizabeth Langford: Hard Carol Bulmer: It's Elizabeth Langford: to Carol Bulmer: difficult Elizabeth Langford: lose. Carol Bulmer: to lose Elizabeth Langford: Oh Carol Bulmer: it. Elizabeth Langford: right. Pauline Capps: Yeah, this this is Elizabeth Langford: It Pauline Capps: hard Elizabeth Langford: is Pauline Capps: to Elizabeth Langford: hard Pauline Capps: lose. Elizabeth Langford: to lose. Yeah, so then this is it Pauline Capps: This Elizabeth Langford: is almost Sarah Molina: I Carol Bulmer: A two. Sarah Molina: think Elizabeth Langford: true, so a two. Sarah Molina: yeah, Carol Bulmer: A two. Sarah Molina: I think also. Pauline Capps: Two, yeah. Carol Bulmer: Okay. Pauline Capps: And most all because of the option to Sarah Molina: Huh? Pauline Capps: Whoa. Elizabeth Langford: Ooh. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, it's okay. That happens above also. Elizabeth Langford: Oh. Pauline Capps: Uh. Carol Bulmer: But Sarah Molina: Yeah? Carol Bulmer: maybe when you scroll away Sarah Molina: Oh, okay. Carol Bulmer: and back it will be normal, but Yep. Sarah Molina: No. Carol Bulmer: Oh, Elizabeth Langford: Oh well, Carol Bulmer: it Elizabeth Langford: it Carol Bulmer: isn't, Elizabeth Langford: doesn't. Carol Bulmer: well okay. Remember. Pauline Capps: put the cor cursor on Sarah Molina: Okay Pauline Capps: the. Sarah Molina: okay okay. Remote Pauline Capps: Click. Sarah Molina: control mainly be sold to younger people. Pauline Capps: True. Elizabeth Langford: I think it will, Sarah Molina: Yeah? Pauline Capps: True. Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Sarah Molina: True? Very true? Pauline Capps: Uh Elizabeth Langford: Uh Pauline Capps: yeah. Sarah Molina: No, Pauline Capps: Uh Carol Bulmer: There. Elizabeth Langford: well I Sarah Molina: I don't think very true because Elizabeth Langford: a Sarah Molina: the colours. Elizabeth Langford: a two. Sarah Molina: We have the colours. Um we have the buttons is aren't that that much. Pauline Capps: Materials, yeah. Sarah Molina: Nah, the material isn't that Elizabeth Langford: It's Pauline Capps: Uh Elizabeth Langford: it's Pauline Capps: okay. Elizabeth Langford: much more younger. Sarah Molina: So I don Pauline Capps: So ma Sarah Molina: I Pauline Capps: uh make Sarah Molina: think Pauline Capps: it make Sarah Molina: I Pauline Capps: it a Sarah Molina: think Pauline Capps: two. Sarah Molina: it's a three. Carol Bulmer: Well I think it's it's uh a lower number, so better because w we designed it for young people Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: especially, Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: I Sarah Molina: but Elizabeth Langford: think Sarah Molina: I Elizabeth Langford: it's Sarah Molina: uh Elizabeth Langford: a Carol Bulmer: didn't Elizabeth Langford: two Carol Bulmer: we? Elizabeth Langford: but Sarah Molina: Okay, okay. Carol Bulmer: What do you think? Sarah Molina: I think Carol Bulmer: Questions? Pauline Capps: A Sarah Molina: because Pauline Capps: two? I think it's two. Carol Bulmer: Two. Sarah Molina: yeah? Pauline Capps: I think it's two Carol Bulmer: Uh-huh. Pauline Capps: too, two too too. Elizabeth Langford: Two two two. Let's make everything Sarah Molina: In Elizabeth Langford: a Sarah Molina: the Elizabeth Langford: two. Sarah Molina: features? Carol Bulmer: Dissatisfy younger people. Elizabeth Langford: Younger Carol Bulmer: Um Elizabeth Langford: people. It Pauline Capps: Well Elizabeth Langford: has Pauline Capps: perhaps not. Elizabeth Langford: What Sarah Molina: Because younger Elizabeth Langford: did Sarah Molina: peoples are cr critical and they wanted a lot of features on Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: this thing. Elizabeth Langford: Well Pauline Capps: Well, Elizabeth Langford: that it Pauline Capps: n Elizabeth Langford: doesn't. Pauline Capps: not exactly but uh uh if it had some games on it or something like Elizabeth Langford: Yeah Pauline Capps: that, Elizabeth Langford: bu but Pauline Capps: but it's for a remote control I think it i Elizabeth Langford: I think Pauline Capps: it would Elizabeth Langford: they Pauline Capps: satisfy Elizabeth Langford: like the speech. Pauline Capps: those needs. Yeah, the Elizabeth Langford: You Pauline Capps: speech Elizabeth Langford: could call Pauline Capps: possibility, Sarah Molina: L_C_D_ Elizabeth Langford: to your uh Sarah Molina: screen Elizabeth Langford: yeah, Pauline Capps: the colours. Elizabeth Langford: and Sarah Molina: and scroll. Elizabeth Langford: the screen, Pauline Capps: Scroll Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Pauline Capps: options, yeah. Sarah Molina: I I think they'll be quite met with their expectations. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: Right, Sarah Molina: No. Elizabeth Langford: that that that Carol Bulmer: It Elizabeth Langford: those Carol Bulmer: has Elizabeth Langford: are features. Carol Bulmer: relatively Sarah Molina: It's three Carol Bulmer: few Sarah Molina: features, Carol Bulmer: features, Sarah Molina: basically, Carol Bulmer: with Sarah Molina: the L_C_D_ touch screen is feature. Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: The Elizabeth Langford: No, aren't Sarah Molina: microphone Elizabeth Langford: the features Sarah Molina: is a feature. Elizabeth Langford: the microphone's feature and that you can change the channel's feature, and that you can change Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: the volume is feature, and that you can change the options of the remote, Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: uh uh Sarah Molina: okay. Carol Bulmer: Ours Elizabeth Langford: something Carol Bulmer: had other Elizabeth Langford: like that. Carol Bulmer: features with Sarah Molina: I think Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: yeah, and then you have the Pauline Capps: The Sarah Molina: audio Pauline Capps: easy Sarah Molina: settings, Pauline Capps: volume Sarah Molina: channel Pauline Capps: up Sarah Molina: setting, Pauline Capps: button. Elizabeth Langford: Those Sarah Molina: video Elizabeth Langford: are Sarah Molina: settings. Elizabeth Langford: features. Pauline Capps: Remote younger people usually use the remote control to put on the volume. Sarah Molina: Yeah yeah. Pauline Capps: Turn uh turn Sarah Molina: So I've Pauline Capps: up Sarah Molina: chos Pauline Capps: the volume. Sarah Molina: I shou I think it's it's it's a one. Elizabeth Langford: Enough features? Sarah Molina: Personally, yeah. I think once you've 'cause you have the channel features b uh you have the uh screen features, audio features, the you have all buttons on it which you'd like, microphone extra, L_C_D_ screen extra, scroll thing extra. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Okay, you think one, what do you think? Elizabeth Langford: I think Carol Bulmer: You. Elizabeth Langford: two or three. Carol Bulmer: three, yeah. Pauline Capps: Two. Carol Bulmer: I'd say three, so Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Yeah Carol Bulmer: two Elizabeth Langford: uh Sarah Molina: Make Carol Bulmer: it Elizabeth Langford: a Sarah Molina: it Carol Bulmer: is Elizabeth Langford: two Carol Bulmer: then Sarah Molina: make Carol Bulmer: or Sarah Molina: it a Elizabeth Langford: a Sarah Molina: two. Elizabeth Langford: two. Pauline Capps: One two three. Sarah Molina: Or make Elizabeth Langford: Just Sarah Molina: it Elizabeth Langford: another Sarah Molina: uh Elizabeth Langford: two. Sarah Molina: a fucking Elizabeth Langford: We Sarah Molina: two. Elizabeth Langford: like Pauline Capps: Right. Elizabeth Langford: two. Sarah Molina: You can see the remote control is R_ and R_. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, there's Pauline Capps: Uh. Elizabeth Langford: R_ and Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: R_ in front. Carol Bulmer: Yep. Elizabeth Langford: Uh it's not the colour, so maybe you should make two, but it has R_ and Sarah Molina: Has Elizabeth Langford: R_. Sarah Molina: oh yeah, do did have nah y you have the black one. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: And we'll probably make also a yellow one. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: but not R_ Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: and R_ Carol Bulmer: maybe Elizabeth Langford: yellow Carol Bulmer: maybe Elizabeth Langford: I think. Carol Bulmer: two. Well m th Sarah Molina: Maybe Carol Bulmer: but Sarah Molina: two. Carol Bulmer: the logo Pauline Capps: Okay, true, Carol Bulmer: is on Pauline Capps: yeah. Carol Bulmer: on the front, so Elizabeth Langford: One Sarah Molina: X_ Elizabeth Langford: d on i Sarah Molina: marks Elizabeth Langford: it's Sarah Molina: spot. Elizabeth Langford: the Carol Bulmer: a two, Elizabeth Langford: colours Carol Bulmer: yeah, that's Elizabeth Langford: and the Sarah Molina: And the menu is avail that is available is easy to use. Elizabeth Langford: I think it is, but I don't know what you think. Pauline Capps: I think it's easier to use than a regular remote control, Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: because Sarah Molina: tha Pauline Capps: when Sarah Molina: that's Pauline Capps: you push Sarah Molina: so true. Pauline Capps: on the options menu, you get the the the various options uh entirely explained. Sarah Molina: Mm-hmm. Pauline Capps: Entirely explained. Instead of uh just finding out what an icon means on a button. Sarah Molina: Mm-hmm. Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: And Sarah Molina: uh Elizabeth Langford: you can navigate easier, Pauline Capps: Yeah, you Elizabeth Langford: because Pauline Capps: can navigate. Elizabeth Langford: wi with the you have to push the the the arrows and with a normal Pauline Capps: Uh. Elizabeth Langford: T_V_ uh remote. Sarah Molina: I think that wou that would be quite hard to learn Pauline Capps: You're not Sarah Molina: to Pauline Capps: satisfied, Sarah Molina: use it. Pauline Capps: okay. Sarah Molina: No, I'm Pauline Capps: Let's start Sarah Molina: not not Pauline Capps: over Sarah Molina: convinc. Pauline Capps: again then. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Let's make a different remote. Sarah Molina: Let's go th Elizabeth Langford: Well Sarah Molina: for Elizabeth Langford: Menu. Sarah Molina: I think it would be a t yeah, two. Elizabeth Langford: A two? Sarah Molina: Now lower. Pauline Capps: A two. Carol Bulmer: Oh, Elizabeth Langford: We only Carol Bulmer: well Elizabeth Langford: have Carol Bulmer: that's Elizabeth Langford: twos. Carol Bulmer: that's pretty good, huh? Pauline Capps: Oh yeah, I think so. Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Uh just Sarah Molina: So Elizabeth Langford: twos. Sarah Molina: okay, Pauline Capps: And Elizabeth Langford: One Pauline Capps: three. Sarah Molina: we Elizabeth Langford: three Sarah Molina: have Elizabeth Langford: and a few ones. Sarah Molina: one three, a one, that that have to got Elizabeth Langford: Two threes. Sarah Molina: up. Two two two Elizabeth Langford: We Sarah Molina: two Elizabeth Langford: m Sarah Molina: two. Elizabeth Langford: mostly have twos, Sarah Molina: So two, yeah. Elizabeth Langford: so it's pretty good. Sarah Molina: The average is a two. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: That Pauline Capps: The average. Sarah Molina: is quite good Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. I think Sarah Molina: in my Elizabeth Langford: so Sarah Molina: opinion. Pauline Capps: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: too. Pauline Capps: I think so. Sarah Molina: That Elizabeth Langford: We Sarah Molina: Ooh. Elizabeth Langford: can be happy. Pauline Capps: Save. Sarah Molina: Ooh. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. What is it? It's like a bug Pauline Capps: It's Elizabeth Langford: or Pauline Capps: a fly. Elizabeth Langford: something. A fly, yeah. Pauline Capps: Oh m Elizabeth Langford: A f butterfly. Sarah Molina: Top. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. That's it. Sarah Molina: Okay. Carol Bulmer: That was your evaluation uh Sarah Molina: Yes. Carol Bulmer: show, okay, so we don't Elizabeth Langford: Sure. Carol Bulmer: have to calculate anything because of um Sarah Molina: No, it's Carol Bulmer: these Sarah Molina: two. Carol Bulmer: results. Okay, good. Sarah Molina: The Elizabeth Langford: It's Sarah Molina: average Elizabeth Langford: good. Sarah Molina: is two. Carol Bulmer: Um Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: let's see oh, it isn't asked to save but it did Pauline Capps: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: already Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: Exactly. Sarah Molina: I uh uh I uh Carol Bulmer: And Sarah Molina: saved Carol Bulmer: this Sarah Molina: it. Carol Bulmer: Everything okay. Well, the next part uh might be a little bit difficult to do in a group, but I am willing to try it. Because we are going to look at the finance and I have Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: a nice Excel sheet to do that. Elizabeth Langford: Redesign. No. Carol Bulmer: And um I'm not sure if I put it in the project folder. look on that. Um and we're going to calculate the production costs, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: and if they are uh under or at twelve Euro fifty, we're good, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: and if they're not we're going to uh re-design, Elizabeth Langford: So we're going Carol Bulmer: but Elizabeth Langford: to Carol Bulmer: we have to do that Elizabeth Langford: erase Carol Bulmer: uh Elizabeth Langford: features Carol Bulmer: very Elizabeth Langford: or Carol Bulmer: very Elizabeth Langford: something. Carol Bulmer: quick I think, yes. Um I don't know if I Elizabeth Langford: Do you have the cost or uh Carol Bulmer: put the Excel sheet in the Elizabeth Langford: Let's hope. Carol Bulmer: n not in the Sarah Molina: f Elizabeth Langford: We're going Carol Bulmer: folder. Sarah Molina: fifty Elizabeth Langford: to be here Sarah Molina: five Carol Bulmer: I Elizabeth Langford: at eight Sarah Molina: Euros. Elizabeth Langford: o'clock. Carol Bulmer: think it's I think it's still in my own documents folder. Elizabeth Langford: We're goin still going to be here at eight o'clock. Sarah Molina: No. Elizabeth Langford: I doubt Carol Bulmer: Oh shit. Elizabeth Langford: it. Perhaps we've got features that don't exist Sarah Molina: Yeah Elizabeth Langford: in the Excel Sarah Molina: mm Elizabeth Langford: sheet. Sarah Molina: yeah, maybe. Carol Bulmer: So Sarah Molina: The microphone. Elizabeth Langford: No, it was in my uh my Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: information, Pauline Capps: It Elizabeth Langford: so Pauline Capps: i Sarah Molina: Yeah? Elizabeth Langford: uh Pauline Capps: It wasn't too much. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: maybe you're going scrap Pauline Capps: As well as the L_C_D_ screen. Sarah Molina: scrap Pauline Capps: Whoa. Sarah Molina: it. Carol Bulmer: Okay, Elizabeth Langford: Well, Carol Bulmer: well Elizabeth Langford: if it doesn't Carol Bulmer: this is Elizabeth Langford: work Carol Bulmer: it. Um maybe I could ask one of you to uh fill it in, so that I can also uh Elizabeth Langford: I Carol Bulmer: take Elizabeth Langford: want Carol Bulmer: minutes, Elizabeth Langford: to fill it in, Sarah Molina: No prob. Elizabeth Langford: but uh Carol Bulmer: and uh maybe the other can uh use that thing to count uh numerous Sarah Molina: Ah. Carol Bulmer: functions. Elizabeth Langford: But you should uh Sarah Molina: Count Elizabeth Langford: direct Sarah Molina: it? Li like write Carol Bulmer: Well Sarah Molina: it Carol Bulmer: we have to Sarah Molina: be Carol Bulmer: count some things and we have to think about some things. Pauline Capps: Count it. Carol Bulmer: But Pauline Capps: You Carol Bulmer: you have Pauline Capps: got Carol Bulmer: to fill Pauline Capps: Excel Carol Bulmer: in Pauline Capps: to count. Carol Bulmer: this Elizabeth Langford: The number Carol Bulmer: column, Elizabeth Langford: of Carol Bulmer: huh? No, uh count uh number of functions, because Pauline Capps: Oh okay. Carol Bulmer: for every button you have to Pauline Capps: Well Carol Bulmer: pay Sarah Molina: Ah, Carol Bulmer: and Pauline Capps: I dra Sarah Molina: okay, Pauline Capps: uh Carol Bulmer: there are Pauline Capps: Danny, Carol Bulmer: different screen Pauline Capps: Danny, Carol Bulmer: shots, Sarah Molina: cool. Carol Bulmer: so Sarah Molina: Huh? Pauline Capps: I'll do that, because Sarah Molina: Yeah? Carol Bulmer: or Sarah Molina: Oh, Pauline Capps: I draw Carol Bulmer: different Sarah Molina: yea yeah, Pauline Capps: the Sarah Molina: you Pauline Capps: uh Sarah Molina: design Carol Bulmer: different Sarah Molina: it. Carol Bulmer: screens, so Elizabeth Langford: We've got a battery, one or t two batteries, Sarah Molina: Um Elizabeth Langford: or not? nee one battery, with two small batteries. Sarah Molina: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, but it's it's more about the energy source, huh? Do you Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: use a hand dynamo, a battery, Elizabeth Langford: I would do a battery Carol Bulmer: kinetic or solar Elizabeth Langford: we do. Carol Bulmer: cells? Sarah Molina: Solar Elizabeth Langford: Right? Sarah Molina: cell. No it took Elizabeth Langford: A Carol Bulmer: We'll Pauline Capps: No, Elizabeth Langford: battery. Sarah Molina: a Pauline Capps: no Carol Bulmer: wait. Sarah Molina: battery? Pauline Capps: solar cell, no no no no. Elizabeth Langford: One battery, right? Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Pauline Capps: No Sarah Molina: Yeah. Pauline Capps: hand dynamo. Hand Elizabeth Langford: Electronics, Sarah Molina: We have Elizabeth Langford: simple chip advanced chip, right? Sarah Molina: No, we have sample speaker. Pauline Capps: On advanced chip. Sarah Molina: But b al but we also have sample speaker, do Pauline Capps: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Pauline Capps: yeah. Elizabeth Langford: so this one and this one. Uh we Sarah Molina: Oh, Elizabeth Langford: ha Sarah Molina: we Elizabeth Langford: we Sarah Molina: already Elizabeth Langford: have um Sarah Molina: on Elizabeth Langford: single Sarah Molina: nine. Elizabeth Langford: what? Are we? Oh yay. Sarah Molina: We have double curved. Pauline Capps: Single nee single Elizabeth Langford: The single. Pauline Capps: curved. Sarah Molina: Single. Pauline Capps: Double curved was uh uh see uh ju three dimensional. But it isn't three dimensional, Sarah Molina: This Elizabeth Langford: Oh Pauline Capps: it Sarah Molina: one Pauline Capps: isn't Sarah Molina: is Elizabeth Langford: the Pauline Capps: curved Elizabeth Langford: the it's Pauline Capps: in Elizabeth Langford: not Pauline Capps: a Elizabeth Langford: going to Pauline Capps: l Elizabeth Langford: work uh people. We have Sarah Molina: This Elizabeth Langford: rubber. Sarah Molina: one is curved like this, right. Carol Bulmer: I'll just Sarah Molina: It's Carol Bulmer: fill it Sarah Molina: curved Carol Bulmer: in. Sarah Molina: like Pauline Capps: No Sarah Molina: this. Pauline Capps: no no, single Carol Bulmer: Um Pauline Capps: curved Carol Bulmer: rubber Pauline Capps: is like Carol Bulmer: indeed? Pauline Capps: this. Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: Uh Sarah Molina: bu Pauline Capps: that's Sarah Molina: what Pauline Capps: the only curve you made, not th uh curved like that. That's uh Sarah Molina: Oh, but we have curves like it and it. There are two curves, Elizabeth Langford: Thirteen? Sarah Molina: right? Oh, okay I understand, I Pauline Capps: Huh? Sarah Molina: understand. Elizabeth Langford: With a scroll wheel, right? Sarah Molina: Rubber. Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Is he integrated? No, eh? I Sarah Molina: Push Elizabeth Langford: don't Pauline Capps: Yeah, Sarah Molina: button. Elizabeth Langford: know. Sarah Molina: No, we don't have push Pauline Capps: we gotta Sarah Molina: button. Pauline Capps: integrate scroll wheel and push button, because when you push it and you w it won't just pu Elizabeth Langford: Oh Pauline Capps: uh Elizabeth Langford: yeah, Pauline Capps: makes Elizabeth Langford: right, Pauline Capps: possible Elizabeth Langford: we want Pauline Capps: to s Elizabeth Langford: it to it's not it's not no. Sarah Molina: L_C_D_ Pauline Capps: Not going Sarah Molina: display. Pauline Capps: to work? Okay. Elizabeth Langford: Yep. Fifteen, oh, too bad. Pauline Capps: Okay um Elizabeth Langford: Oh but with special colour we have. A special form, right? Pauline Capps: But now button supplements. We don't got the button supplements. Elizabeth Langford: Oh, we don't have any buttons, so Sarah Molina: Eighteen and a half, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Sarah Molina: damn. Elizabeth Langford: we need to uh Sarah Molina: We Pauline Capps: Damn. Sarah Molina: have to lower it with six points. Elizabeth Langford: No, Pauline Capps: Okay. Elizabeth Langford: uh we have fifteen and Sarah Molina: Twelve and half. Elizabeth Langford: oh, right. We could lose the curve. Pauline Capps: Nah. Sarah Molina: We could use Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, I Pauline Capps: We Elizabeth Langford: would Pauline Capps: could Elizabeth Langford: lose Pauline Capps: lose Elizabeth Langford: the curve. Pauline Capps: the scroll wheel. You could make it just a regular scroll wheel. Elizabeth Langford: But you can't push it, so Pauline Capps: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: you have Pauline Capps: if you Elizabeth Langford: to Pauline Capps: can't Elizabeth Langford: tap. Pauline Capps: push it you have to tap the the options window uh button here and then uh scroll down with the d with uh with uh the Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Pauline Capps: button. Elizabeth Langford: alright. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, I think that will Elizabeth Langford: So Carol Bulmer: be Elizabeth Langford: normal scroll wheel? Carol Bulmer: our best Pauline Capps: Normal scroll Carol Bulmer: bet. Pauline Capps: wheel. Elizabeth Langford: And I think we should lose Sarah Molina: I think Elizabeth Langford: the curve. Sarah Molina: we should Pauline Capps: Lose Sarah Molina: scrap the sample speaker. It's four pri it four units. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but if you would i it is a new feature, it it's something Pauline Capps: Okay, so Elizabeth Langford: special. Pauline Capps: we don't exactly need the single Sarah Molina: But w Pauline Capps: We Sarah Molina: d Pauline Capps: don't need Sarah Molina: wha Pauline Capps: a curve. Elizabeth Langford: No, Pauline Capps: 'S possible Elizabeth Langford: the curve Pauline Capps: to Sarah Molina: Curved Pauline Capps: lose Elizabeth Langford: doesn't Sarah Molina: then Pauline Capps: curve. Sarah Molina: it Elizabeth Langford: really Sarah Molina: will be square. Elizabeth Langford: No, then it will won't uh stand up from the table. Then Pauline Capps: Okay. Sarah Molina: Was Elizabeth Langford: it Sarah Molina: that Elizabeth Langford: would Sarah Molina: does Elizabeth Langford: just Sarah Molina: that mean to it, Pauline Capps: Yeah, Sarah Molina: single Pauline Capps: that's Sarah Molina: curve? Pauline Capps: meant Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: with scr uh with s curve. The curve is uh in a dimension. Sarah Molina: Okay. Pauline Capps: If you make it a flat Elizabeth Langford: So Pauline Capps: one, s n it's no curve, you got Elizabeth Langford: We would Pauline Capps: no Elizabeth Langford: lose Pauline Capps: curves. Elizabeth Langford: this one? Sarah Molina: Yeah, but tha that Pauline Capps: Yeah, Sarah Molina: that Pauline Capps: okay. Sarah Molina: only is one. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, we Pauline Capps: No, Elizabeth Langford: could Pauline Capps: two. Elizabeth Langford: s yeah, a bit. Sarah Molina: No, one. Elizabeth Langford: Sixteen Pauline Capps: Oh, Elizabeth Langford: point Pauline Capps: okay, Elizabeth Langford: three. Pauline Capps: indeed. Sarah Molina: So we don't Elizabeth Langford: So we Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: still Sarah Molina: we also have to Pauline Capps: Is it possible to make Elizabeth Langford: Could could we do it on a regular chip on print or something? Sarah Molina: No, otherwise we don't have an L_C_D_ screen. Elizabeth Langford: No? Ma Pauline Capps: No. Elizabeth Langford: y you just can't Carol Bulmer: And Elizabeth Langford: do that, Carol Bulmer: what did Elizabeth Langford: or Carol Bulmer: you Elizabeth Langford: uh Carol Bulmer: change? You changed the Elizabeth Langford: We changed th Carol Bulmer: uh scroll wheel and Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, and the Sarah Molina: Single Elizabeth Langford: single curved Sarah Molina: curved. Elizabeth Langford: to uncurved. Carol Bulmer: Oh, Sarah Molina: Flat. Carol Bulmer: but it's just one Sarah Molina: Yeah, so that does doesn't Carol Bulmer: point, Sarah Molina: doesn't Elizabeth Langford: No. Carol Bulmer: so Sarah Molina: that mu Carol Bulmer: maybe Sarah Molina: I think Carol Bulmer: you should should uh Sarah Molina: Scrap sample speaker? Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Sarah Molina: That Carol Bulmer: you Sarah Molina: that's Pauline Capps: The Carol Bulmer: should Pauline Capps: sample Sarah Molina: uh Pauline Capps: speaker Carol Bulmer: you Pauline Capps: is Carol Bulmer: should Pauline Capps: two d Carol Bulmer: drop Pauline Capps: wait, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: the Elizabeth Langford: but Pauline Capps: f s Elizabeth Langford: it's Carol Bulmer: speech Pauline Capps: four Elizabeth Langford: t Pauline Capps: points. Carol Bulmer: recognition. Sarah Molina: Yes, four points. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but Carol Bulmer: And Elizabeth Langford: it Carol Bulmer: then Elizabeth Langford: is Carol Bulmer: you can Elizabeth Langford: uh Carol Bulmer: keep the curve. Elizabeth Langford: it it is a new feature, it Carol Bulmer: Or Elizabeth Langford: is Carol Bulmer: can't Elizabeth Langford: something Carol Bulmer: you? Pauline Capps: Yeah, uh Elizabeth Langford: special. Pauline Capps: becau Sarah Molina: Yeah, but Pauline Capps: uh Sarah Molina: what what Pauline Capps: when Sarah Molina: else Pauline Capps: you lose Sarah Molina: what else Pauline Capps: the Sarah Molina: uh do you want to scrap? F You have Elizabeth Langford: I Sarah Molina: to Elizabeth Langford: don't Sarah Molina: we Elizabeth Langford: know. Sarah Molina: have to scrap four points. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, that's difficult. Pauline Capps: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Or make it on a hand dynamo, but I Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: don't think that Sarah Molina: Ma Carol Bulmer: will Sarah Molina: make Carol Bulmer: work. Sarah Molina: it with wood instead of rubber? Pauline Capps: No, that's no. Make it Elizabeth Langford: Uh. Pauline Capps: w uh when you made it uh uh uh a remote control of wood? Sarah Molina: Yeah, it Pauline Capps: You don't Sarah Molina: it Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Sarah Molina: i Elizabeth Langford: We Pauline Capps: make Elizabeth Langford: could Pauline Capps: a Carol Bulmer: mm-hmm. Pauline Capps: remote Elizabeth Langford: make it Pauline Capps: control Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: titanium Pauline Capps: of Sarah Molina: it also Pauline Capps: Ah. Elizabeth Langford: instead of rubber. Sarah Molina: uh it also takes one point less. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, but uh a wooden remote control only helps for Elizabeth Langford: Oh. Carol Bulmer: uh Elizabeth Langford: Oh can I ask something? Carol Bulmer: old people we discussed, Elizabeth Langford: What is Carol Bulmer: yes? Sarah Molina: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: special colour? Is that the wood uh wood uh Sarah Molina: I think it is. Elizabeth Langford: this, Pauline Capps: It Elizabeth Langford: we Pauline Capps: isn't. Elizabeth Langford: have to have that one too? Pauline Capps: What? Sarah Molina: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, but it's only a half. But I think the only option is to Sarah Molina: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: drop the uh Sarah Molina: Sample speaker. Pauline Capps: To knock Carol Bulmer: sample Pauline Capps: the sample Carol Bulmer: speaker. Pauline Capps: speaker, yeah. And sample sensor. Elizabeth Langford: Th then we still have too much Sarah Molina: Yeah, okay, Elizabeth Langford: if Sarah Molina: three. Elizabeth Langford: we Pauline Capps: But Elizabeth Langford: use Pauline Capps: m Elizabeth Langford: the Sarah Molina: Point Pauline Capps: yeah, Elizabeth Langford: uh Sarah Molina: three. Pauline Capps: course, but Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, we we Pauline Capps: What Elizabeth Langford: scrap Pauline Capps: we'll Elizabeth Langford: that Pauline Capps: have. Elizabeth Langford: one? Sarah Molina: Huh? Pauline Capps: Let's make it thirteen or fourteen. Sarah Molina: Point twelve. Elizabeth Langford: See, a po three. We need point three. Sarah Molina: That's a scroll wheel. Elizabeth Langford: Uh it's a colour. Don't Pauline Capps: A colour. Elizabeth Langford: make it wood. Sarah Molina: Yeah, but a wood Elizabeth Langford: Make Sarah Molina: we can Elizabeth Langford: it Sarah Molina: make Elizabeth Langford: uh Sarah Molina: it brown, dark brown, not wood. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but it's it's special colour, is it Pauline Capps: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: a all Pauline Capps: special colours, Elizabeth Langford: kind of colours? Pauline Capps: fruity colours. Elizabeth Langford: It's also green Sarah Molina: Is it Elizabeth Langford: or Sarah Molina: also Elizabeth Langford: uh Sarah Molina: no Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: that that's just normal colour fruit colours. Normal Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but it's Sarah Molina: colours, Elizabeth Langford: a special Sarah Molina: yellow Elizabeth Langford: colour than just rubber colour. You have to add something to the rubber to make it green. Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: You don't say here's green rubber. Pauline Capps: They don't Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: sell Sarah Molina: but then Pauline Capps: green Sarah Molina: I Pauline Capps: rubber Sarah Molina: d I Pauline Capps: plants. Sarah Molina: don't think we can ever make Pauline Capps: Alright. Sarah Molina: to a twelve and half. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, you can, you should you have to lose Sarah Molina: But then we have to scrap L_C_D_ display, we have to scrap uh Elizabeth Langford: No, it is Pauline Capps: No Sarah Molina: s Elizabeth Langford: the scroll Sarah Molina: advanced Pauline Capps: no no. Elizabeth Langford: wheel, Sarah Molina: chip. Elizabeth Langford: I guess. Sarah Molina: No then we have to scrap everything we got because how many colours we gonna make? Five? Pauline Capps: If we lose Sarah Molina: Then we have Pauline Capps: the Sarah Molina: two. Pauline Capps: scroll wheel and make it totally uh depending uh dependent on Sarah Molina: S Pauline Capps: uh the Elizabeth Langford: A Pauline Capps: touch Sarah Molina: touch. Elizabeth Langford: push, Pauline Capps: screen Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Pauline Capps: then it's possible to make. Sarah Molina: Then we Pauline Capps: And Sarah Molina: can make Pauline Capps: then you Sarah Molina: add Pauline Capps: can Sarah Molina: two colours Pauline Capps: and then you can Sarah Molina: on Pauline Capps: add Sarah Molina: it. Pauline Capps: to the colours. Sarah Molina: Yeah, two colours it. Pauline Capps: Special c Elizabeth Langford: Switch Pauline Capps: Okay, Elizabeth Langford: colours. Pauline Capps: if you lose uh if you lose Elizabeth Langford: It Pauline Capps: the Elizabeth Langford: was such a great idea. Pauline Capps: You lose Sarah Molina: They can Pauline Capps: this one, Sarah Molina: add Pauline Capps: you got Sarah Molina: two Pauline Capps: eleven Sarah Molina: colours. Pauline Capps: point five and you make i and then you can make uh the spec single curve, for example. Sarah Molina: But the colours. Um how ma uh the colours like l she told, is that all the colours we add or Pauline Capps: How d uh uh how many Elizabeth Langford: What Pauline Capps: colours? Elizabeth Langford: do you mean? Pauline Capps: Special colours, all the colours you want, because Sarah Molina: Yeah, but Pauline Capps: you Sarah Molina: we Pauline Capps: want Sarah Molina: we Pauline Capps: to make Sarah Molina: we Pauline Capps: p Sarah Molina: are we have yellow, red, uh black, titanium. Pauline Capps: Yeah, but uh when you use more than one colour, it's a special colour. Sarah Molina: Ah Elizabeth Langford: Oh. Sarah Molina: okay. Elizabeth Langford: But I think Pauline Capps: I Elizabeth Langford: when Pauline Capps: suppose. Elizabeth Langford: you use the colour that's not originally the rubber then you use special colour, 'cause you have Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: to add Sarah Molina: Yeah, but Elizabeth Langford: it. Sarah Molina: the rubbers alls original black. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, so you always lose the special colour. You co you could Sarah Molina: Yeah Elizabeth Langford: make Sarah Molina: b Elizabeth Langford: it always black, Sarah Molina: Yeah, but Elizabeth Langford: like Sarah Molina: we're Elizabeth Langford: normal Sarah Molina: gonna make Elizabeth Langford: remote. Sarah Molina: it yellow uh red, and then you add you have two special colours on top of the one Pauline Capps: Nee Sarah Molina: we have now. Pauline Capps: we we also want to make Elizabeth Langford: Oh right, Pauline Capps: ano another Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Pauline Capps: colour. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: we Sarah Molina: but Elizabeth Langford: should Sarah Molina: m Elizabeth Langford: u Yeah. We have to make this like four or five Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: or something. Sarah Molina: because Elizabeth Langford: That's what Sarah Molina: we have Elizabeth Langford: it means. Sarah Molina: more colours than only black. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: but isn't it Sarah Molina: I Carol Bulmer: per Sarah Molina: then I think Carol Bulmer: remote Sarah Molina: I p Carol Bulmer: that Sarah Molina: I don Carol Bulmer: you Sarah Molina: I Carol Bulmer: pay? Sarah Molina: don't think they Sarah Molina mean Elizabeth Langford: Oh right, Carol Bulmer: Half? Sarah Molina: they're special Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Is it per remote? Carol Bulmer: I think Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: you pay half per remote. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, that's right, Carol Bulmer: So Elizabeth Langford: and Carol Bulmer: each Elizabeth Langford: you Carol Bulmer: remote Elizabeth Langford: one colour Carol Bulmer: with Elizabeth Langford: per Carol Bulmer: a special Elizabeth Langford: remote. Carol Bulmer: colour. Pauline Capps: Yeah, indeed, Elizabeth Langford: So then Pauline Capps: yeah. Elizabeth Langford: it is one. Pauline Capps: You don't need four of those Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: uh Sarah Molina: okay Pauline Capps: four Sarah Molina: okay, Pauline Capps: of Sarah Molina: true. Pauline Capps: those special colours in one Sarah Molina: True, Pauline Capps: in Sarah Molina: true. Pauline Capps: one remote. Elizabeth Langford: No. Carol Bulmer: I Sarah Molina: We Carol Bulmer: hope. Sarah Molina: have two points spare. Carol Bulmer: So the Sarah Molina: Nee Carol Bulmer: battery, Sarah Molina: one point. Carol Bulmer: we Elizabeth Langford: One. Carol Bulmer: have um advanced chip on print. Elizabeth Langford: So it would be curved, single curve. Carol Bulmer: Because of thing Elizabeth Langford: Or not? Carol Bulmer: Yeah, well Pauline Capps: Hmm. Carol Bulmer: you can at least make it curved again. Elizabeth Langford: So Pauline Capps: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: y Pauline Capps: single Elizabeth Langford: you just Pauline Capps: curve. Elizabeth Langford: can't make a nice remote. Carol Bulmer: Because that was Elizabeth Langford: It's Carol Bulmer: very important, Elizabeth Langford: too Carol Bulmer: huh? Elizabeth Langford: bad for the speaker. Carol Bulmer: So it's curved, it's still that so we we dropped the speech recognition Elizabeth Langford: Should Sarah Molina: Mm Elizabeth Langford: we Carol Bulmer: together Elizabeth Langford: change Sarah Molina: yep. Carol Bulmer: with Elizabeth Langford: that Carol Bulmer: the speaker. Elizabeth Langford: tha that that's a one if not, or Carol Bulmer: We Elizabeth Langford: not? Carol Bulmer: dropped the scroll wheel. Elizabeth Langford: Could you copy it? And Carol Bulmer: And Elizabeth Langford: make Carol Bulmer: the rest Elizabeth Langford: it uh Carol Bulmer: is the same, huh? Sarah Molina: Y yea the Carol Bulmer: Am I right? Yes. Sarah Molina: scroll wheel Elizabeth Langford: The Sarah Molina: is Elizabeth Langford: entire Sarah Molina: dropped. Elizabeth Langford: uh Pauline Capps: Uh. Sarah Molina: Yep. Pauline Capps: Huh. Elizabeth Langford: Perhaps you can then copy page or so. Ooh. Elizabeth Langford: No. Pauline Capps: Okay. Elizabeth Langford: Oh you you made the entire could you Pauline Capps: Undo, undo. Undo. Elizabeth Langford: Oh not Well. Pauline Capps: So, 'kay. Twenty minutes? Elizabeth Langford: Would you? By the Perhaps you can save this one, and then copy or something. Add it copy page. Select all. Carol Bulmer: No, but you c yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Alright, something went wrong. Sarah Molina: Tap. Carol Bulmer: Okay, but this this new remote Elizabeth Langford: It Carol Bulmer: we Elizabeth Langford: doesn't Carol Bulmer: can afford. Elizabeth Langford: work. Let's forget. Sarah Molina: It should've work. Pauline Capps: Okay, so you had this list at start? Carol Bulmer: Hmm? Pauline Capps: Alright. Carol Bulmer: No, Pauline Capps: When Carol Bulmer: I hadn't. Pauline Capps: did you receive this list? Carol Bulmer: I just received it. Pauline Capps: Ah okay. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Oh ignore Carol Bulmer: They Elizabeth Langford: that. Carol Bulmer: don't work so hard at the finance department. Pauline Capps: Ah okay. I Elizabeth Langford: Well, so Pauline Capps: suppose this is a Okay, so Elizabeth Langford: Too Pauline Capps: we Elizabeth Langford: bad. Pauline Capps: lose the scroll wheel, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: the s Elizabeth Langford: The microphone. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, and that's it. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: And the microphone. Elizabeth Langford: A and we changed something, I guess, or not? We Oh no. Sarah Molina: Yep. Pauline Capps: Okay. Carol Bulmer: Twelve Euro fifty. Um and did you try to make a new design, or what Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, I tried Carol Bulmer: were you trying Elizabeth Langford: to copy Carol Bulmer: to do? Elizabeth Langford: that one, but it didn't work. Carol Bulmer: It didn't work. Elizabeth Langford: So we could fix it like tha that it's like this. Carol Bulmer: Hmm. Strange. Elizabeth Langford: You could select it all, but then Pauline Capps: Strange. Elizabeth Langford: you can't erase. Carol Bulmer: Oh, you Pauline Capps: You Carol Bulmer: can Pauline Capps: can only re Carol Bulmer: arrange Pauline Capps: erase? Elizabeth Langford: Erase. Pauline Capps: Oh. Elizabeth Langford: When you saw th li uh Earlier when we selected it, w Pauline Capps: Uh, Elizabeth Langford: I couldn't erase anything. Pauline Capps: no. Carol Bulmer: Hmm, can't you then just say copy? Pauline Capps: Bling. Carol Bulmer: New page. Paste. Yes. Pauline Capps: Ah. Carol Bulmer: Select none. Elizabeth Langford: Just Pauline Capps: just Sarah Molina: just Pauline Capps: up Elizabeth Langford: tap Pauline Capps: somewhere Sarah Molina: tap Pauline Capps: b uh Elizabeth Langford: somewhere. Sarah Molina: somewhere. Pauline Capps: besides it, right. Carol Bulmer: Okay, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: and now you can erase. Elizabeth Langford: I don't think I can, but uh we can try. Pauline Capps: Uh, Carol Bulmer: Well Pauline Capps: we already Carol Bulmer: it Pauline Capps: try. Carol Bulmer: should be possible. Elizabeth Langford: Oh, yeah, no, Carol Bulmer: Oh Elizabeth Langford: ha-ha. Carol Bulmer: no. Well Sarah Molina: No? Carol Bulmer: you can draw over it with white Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: uh Elizabeth Langford: we Carol Bulmer: pen. Elizabeth Langford: tried it earlier. Carol Bulmer: Oh. Elizabeth Langford: It's very much work. Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Sorry. Well but that's also useful for the evaluation, because I think uh we Sarah Molina: Evaluation Carol Bulmer: have a prototype Sarah Molina: drops. Carol Bulmer: now which we can afford and uh we only need to draw a little bit to get a good uh design. Doodle. And I think we should then move on to the production evaluation because of the time. Sarah Molina: And erase the mic. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, goodbye mic. Pauline Capps: All I need is no mic. Carol Bulmer: Let's see, Elizabeth Langford: Oh, I Carol Bulmer: we Elizabeth Langford: already erased Carol Bulmer: can Elizabeth Langford: half of the line. Carol Bulmer: save this now. Pauline Capps: Bon chance Carol Bulmer: And move back to here. Elizabeth Langford: Too bad, oh. Elizabeth Langford: Like this? Carol Bulmer: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Langford: Still looks nice. Carol Bulmer: And then all green. Okay, well thank you. Elizabeth Langford: Oh, Sarah Molina: Looks Elizabeth Langford: that's Sarah Molina: like a Elizabeth Langford: erase. Sarah Molina: iPod. Carol Bulmer: Oh, no. Pauline Capps: No, Carol Bulmer: Hey, Pauline Capps: add Carol Bulmer: but you can erase that. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, that's a bit Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: weird. Carol Bulmer: Uh-oh. Elizabeth Langford: Oh, Pauline Capps: S Elizabeth Langford: now Pauline Capps: Difference Elizabeth Langford: I'm line. Pauline Capps: between lines and text and the pen. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Oh. Carol Bulmer: Right. Sarah Molina: All I need is mic. Carol Bulmer: And you can't erase this? Hmm, Elizabeth Langford: No, Carol Bulmer: strange. Elizabeth Langford: it's weird. Carol Bulmer: Okay, well uh just leave it at this and Sarah Molina: Station Carol Bulmer: quickly save. Sarah Molina: page. Carol Bulmer: Um Pauline Capps: Huh, Carol Bulmer: and Pauline Capps: looks Carol Bulmer: then Pauline Capps: fucking Carol Bulmer: we Pauline Capps: boring Carol Bulmer: are going Pauline Capps: now. Carol Bulmer: to the project or product evaluation. We just did our project evaluation. Um well, I think I can sit for that since it's almost my final slide. Um what did you think about uh the process? How satisfied are we? Pauline Capps: Deadlines were sometimes very short. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Langford: Bu but stressful. Pauline Capps: But Elizabeth Langford: You think, Pauline Capps: And Elizabeth Langford: no, Pauline Capps: stressful. Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: my presentation isn't ready. Sarah Molina: I think we it should be b it would be better if we worked a little bit together. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Now Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Sarah Molina: we worked through each other, Carol Bulmer: And you could Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Sarah Molina: something Carol Bulmer: ask Elizabeth Langford: you had information Sarah Molina: he Carol Bulmer: things. Sarah Molina: said Elizabeth Langford: I didn't Sarah Molina: yeah, Elizabeth Langford: have and Sarah Molina: and Elizabeth Langford: then Sarah Molina: you Elizabeth Langford: uh Sarah Molina: had information I also had, Elizabeth Langford: Oh Sarah Molina: so Elizabeth Langford: right. Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: some some things I had Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: in my presentation, they already told, so Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: And for Sarah Molina it sometimes was a surprise who was going to present what, huh? Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: And Sarah Molina: So Carol Bulmer: uh Sarah Molina: yeah, that I don't think that is the best way to work Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Sarah Molina: at Elizabeth Langford: No. Sarah Molina: for such Carol Bulmer: So you would Sarah Molina: project. Carol Bulmer: say uh communicate during our individual Sarah Molina: Yeah, Carol Bulmer: uh Sarah Molina: no, or Carol Bulmer: work. Sarah Molina: maybe session of five minutes together or something, and then work Pauline Capps: Yeah, Sarah Molina: separate. Pauline Capps: but Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Pauline Capps: but why not work here together, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Pauline Capps: for Elizabeth Langford: you Pauline Capps: example? Elizabeth Langford: could Pauline Capps: Why should we be separated from each other Sarah Molina: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: in those difference uh different Sarah Molina: Yeah. Pauline Capps: rooms? Carol Bulmer: Mm-hmm. Well, Elizabeth Langford: I think Carol Bulmer: probably Elizabeth Langford: so too. Carol Bulmer: to simulate the whole working uh Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but then you Carol Bulmer: process, Elizabeth Langford: can work Carol Bulmer: huh, Elizabeth Langford: together Carol Bulmer: th you Elizabeth Langford: too when Carol Bulmer: can't have a meeting uh for Sarah Molina: Yeah m yeah, Carol Bulmer: several Sarah Molina: like she Carol Bulmer: weeks. Sarah Molina: told. Then you can work together too by mail or by, I dunno, chat, something, Pauline Capps: Huh, oh Sarah Molina: but now Carol Bulmer: No. Pauline Capps: right. Elizabeth Langford: A chat Sarah Molina: we're Elizabeth Langford: would also Sarah Molina: completely Elizabeth Langford: be uh Sarah Molina: separated from each other. I don't think that was the best way, but Pauline Capps: But the technology was uh fantastic. Sarah Molina: Yeah, the technology's Elizabeth Langford: Well, Sarah Molina: okay. Elizabeth Langford: I I don't really like the board, it doesn't really work Pauline Capps: Work Elizabeth Langford: great. Sarah Molina: Yeah Pauline Capps: now? Sarah Molina: okay, but I don Elizabeth Langford: Sometimes Sarah Molina: I do Elizabeth Langford: I think. Sarah Molina: I think becau that's Pauline Capps: Perhaps Sarah Molina: because Pauline Capps: it is e Elizabeth Langford: It does work, but sometimes it doesn't erase Pauline Capps: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: or it doesn't Pauline Capps: perhaps Elizabeth Langford: uh Pauline Capps: it is easier to get one of those uh dig digital pens or so and Sarah Molina: Yeah. Pauline Capps: to uh and lay it next to that keyboard over Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: there. So you Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: can draw Sarah Molina: like Pauline Capps: uh Sarah Molina: the Pauline Capps: see Sarah Molina: f Pauline Capps: it Sarah Molina: like Pauline Capps: over Sarah Molina: a Pauline Capps: th on the screen. Sarah Molina: plotters Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: or Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: something, yeah. Yep yep yep yep yep. Carol Bulmer: So Elizabeth Langford: But Carol Bulmer: you don't think the SMARTboard is is really useful or Pauline Capps: It's Elizabeth Langford: Well Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: useful, Elizabeth Langford: it is Sarah Molina: it Elizabeth Langford: useful, Sarah Molina: is useful, Pauline Capps: but not Elizabeth Langford: but Sarah Molina: but Pauline Capps: m Elizabeth Langford: it doesn't really work all the Sarah Molina: No. Elizabeth Langford: time. Pauline Capps: Because Elizabeth Langford: Th Pauline Capps: when you Elizabeth Langford: the Pauline Capps: put this Elizabeth Langford: pen Pauline Capps: pen Elizabeth Langford: doesn't Pauline Capps: on the screen uh uh Elizabeth Langford: The Pauline Capps: for Elizabeth Langford: line Pauline Capps: exam Elizabeth Langford: is Pauline Capps: and Elizabeth Langford: a bit off. Pauline Capps: line is d being drawn at at two or three centimetres uh below. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, so it's maybe a bit unnatural Sarah Molina: Yep. Pauline Capps: Alright. Carol Bulmer: also. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, you can point to where you want the line to be. But Pauline Capps: The project uh because of the deadlines you didn't had the time to uh have, you didn't have time to uh to make a very uh qualitati qualitative uh presentation. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: So you used uh this uh the different PowerPoint presentations uh in which you put your uh material in the Oh. Carol Bulmer: That wasn't Sarah Molina. Uh Pauline Capps: Wasn't Sarah Molina. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: so um the means, we discussed the smart board, and what about uh this digital pen? Elizabeth Langford: I Sarah Molina: I didn't use it at all. Elizabeth Langford: I I used it, it it was you can use it, it's quite handy Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Pauline Capps: But Elizabeth Langford: I Pauline Capps: I Elizabeth Langford: think. Pauline Capps: didn't Carol Bulmer: well Pauline Capps: I uh Carol Bulmer: I use it as a a normal pen and and and only you use it to uh Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, I used it to Carol Bulmer: get Elizabeth Langford: y Carol Bulmer: it Elizabeth Langford: to Carol Bulmer: on the computer, huh? Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, it did work Pauline Capps: I Elizabeth Langford: pretty Pauline Capps: used Elizabeth Langford: well. Pauline Capps: it too, but oh well. Sarah Molina: I Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: didn't Elizabeth Langford: I don't think Sarah Molina: use. Elizabeth Langford: why you would want to use it Pauline Capps: Yeah, Sarah Molina: No Pauline Capps: because Elizabeth Langford: actually, Sarah Molina: yeah. Pauline Capps: it Elizabeth Langford: but Pauline Capps: shou Elizabeth Langford: it it does work. Pauline Capps: To Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Pauline Capps: make some Sarah Molina: It Pauline Capps: designs, Sarah Molina: is it Pauline Capps: it Sarah Molina: is Pauline Capps: is Sarah Molina: yeah, Pauline Capps: very Sarah Molina: it Pauline Capps: easy. Sarah Molina: is easy for to design something and Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: then load it in your computer. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, and then you can show it to everybody. Sarah Molina: Yeah. Pauline Capps: But to write it th yeah. Sarah Molina: Yeah. It's Elizabeth Langford: It doesn't Sarah Molina: b Elizabeth Langford: really Sarah Molina: bi Elizabeth Langford: write Sarah Molina: little bit Elizabeth Langford: normally. Sarah Molina: too big to write. Elizabeth Langford: It's a bit Pauline Capps: Yeah, it's too big, it's too fat. Sarah Molina: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Fat document, those. Carol Bulmer: Okay, um and what about the teamwork? Sarah Molina: Team work was okay. Elizabeth Langford: I think it was great, Pauline Capps: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: yeah. Carol Bulmer: well I think so too. Sarah Molina: Only thing Carol Bulmer: we Sarah Molina: that we worked through, past each other. Pauline Capps: Right. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Sarah Molina: With some things Carol Bulmer: but that Sarah Molina: that Carol Bulmer: was Sarah Molina: was only problem, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Sarah Molina: but Elizabeth Langford: but it Carol Bulmer: it Elizabeth Langford: was Carol Bulmer: was Elizabeth Langford: because Carol Bulmer: our assignment, Elizabeth Langford: we didn't uh Carol Bulmer: huh? Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Yeah yeah yeah, but furthermore Carol Bulmer: Okay, and maybe I Sarah Molina: better. Carol Bulmer: should walk out of the room when you discuss uh this point, the leadership. Sarah Molina: That's Elizabeth Langford: I thought it was good, but Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: yeah, Elizabeth Langford: uh Yeah. Sarah Molina: no prob. Ah. Carol Bulmer: Yeah well, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: okay. Pauline Capps: Not too much, not too too too Sarah Molina: Yeah. Pauline Capps: too. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Okay. Carol Bulmer: And creativity? Well, when we look at this I'd say we have been creative, huh? But Elizabeth Langford: Well. Pauline Capps: Yeah, or the room for it Carol Bulmer: There Pauline Capps: was Carol Bulmer: was Pauline Capps: the idea Carol Bulmer: room Pauline Capps: to Carol Bulmer: for Pauline Capps: be creative, so Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: You got some standard ideas in your head Sarah Molina: Mm-hmm. Pauline Capps: and this what came Elizabeth Langford: And Pauline Capps: out. Elizabeth Langford: you get get stuff from the Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: from the computer, but Pauline Capps: The information uh was sometimes uh a Sarah Molina: Little bit uh Pauline Capps: little Sarah Molina: lo Pauline Capps: bit too late Sarah Molina: yeah. Pauline Capps: or Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Too late it it it Elizabeth Langford: You just Sarah Molina: took Elizabeth Langford: sit Sarah Molina: a lot Elizabeth Langford: there Sarah Molina: of Elizabeth Langford: for Sarah Molina: time Elizabeth Langford: ten Sarah Molina: before Elizabeth Langford: minutes. Sarah Molina: you got your Pauline Capps: Yeah. Sarah Molina: ema yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, where is that Sarah Molina: I played Elizabeth Langford: email? Sarah Molina: I think seven times Solitaire something. Carol Bulmer: You did? Well, Elizabeth Langford: Oh Carol Bulmer: I didn't have Elizabeth Langford: did you? Carol Bulmer: time Elizabeth Langford: Is Carol Bulmer: for Elizabeth Langford: it Carol Bulmer: that. Elizabeth Langford: on there? Sarah Molina: Wha Elizabeth Langford: Is it on there? I didn't find the Carol Bulmer: At Sarah Molina: Oh Carol Bulmer: some Elizabeth Langford: didn't Sarah Molina: right, Carol Bulmer: times Sarah Molina: it is Carol Bulmer: I Elizabeth Langford: look Sarah Molina: there. Elizabeth Langford: but uh I Carol Bulmer: Sometimes Pauline Capps: Was Carol Bulmer: I Pauline Capps: searching Carol Bulmer: received Pauline Capps: and searching. Carol Bulmer: like like five Elizabeth Langford: didn't Carol Bulmer: emails Elizabeth Langford: look, but Carol Bulmer: at at one moment, Sarah Molina: No, Carol Bulmer: and then Sarah Molina: I I never got that. Elizabeth Langford: I Sarah Molina: I Elizabeth Langford: got like Sarah Molina: always Elizabeth Langford: one email after ten minutes or something. Sarah Molina: N yeah. Carol Bulmer: I even got spam. Or something like that. Elizabeth Langford: That's what we Sarah Molina: So Elizabeth Langford: said. Sarah Molina: does this I think lik oh and information was a bit low I think, Elizabeth Langford: And Sarah Molina: sometimes, Elizabeth Langford: it not a lot Sarah Molina: in in Elizabeth Langford: uh Sarah Molina: in in the beginning I didn't understand what what to do. Elizabeth Langford: No, the Pauline Capps: No, Elizabeth Langford: first Pauline Capps: w Elizabeth Langford: one. Sarah Molina: Yeah, Pauline Capps: I Elizabeth Langford: I Pauline Capps: didn't Elizabeth Langford: didn't Sarah Molina: like Pauline Capps: know Elizabeth Langford: know Sarah Molina: I Elizabeth Langford: uh Sarah Molina: with with the remote and I never new we have t we had Pauline Capps: Make Sarah Molina: to uh Pauline Capps: a r yeah. Sarah Molina: yeah made Elizabeth Langford: nee. Sarah Molina: a made a rec a remote control. Elizabeth Langford: And I didn't know what to do for the first ten minutes before Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: we got here, Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: so I Sarah Molina: so Elizabeth Langford: went, right. Pauline Capps: No stepping on the table and then Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: looking at the internet Carol Bulmer: And I Elizabeth Langford: Just Carol Bulmer: was Elizabeth Langford: looking Pauline Capps: page. Carol Bulmer: working Elizabeth Langford: at the Carol Bulmer: and Elizabeth Langford: screen Carol Bulmer: working Elizabeth Langford: and Carol Bulmer: and work Elizabeth Langford: uh Pauline Capps: No. Carol Bulmer: Okay, Sarah Molina: So, yeah. Carol Bulmer: well um but after all we can say uh we are satisfied, but it it could've been uh better. Sarah Molina: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: When we get uh when we have we would have gotten uh more information. Sarah Molina: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, Pauline Capps: Yeah, more Sarah Molina: Faster. Pauline Capps: information Elizabeth Langford: an Pauline Capps: about the costs. Sarah Molina: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, that will be handy. Pauline Capps: First of all I didn't think uh that we were able to make an L_C_D_ screen uh first point, but uh it Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: was possible uh Sarah Molina: Yeah, it only Pauline Capps: uh, Sarah Molina: costs four units. Uh Pauline Capps: yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Yea Sarah Molina: yeah. Elizabeth Langford: uh Carol Bulmer: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: so tha actually you could make an L_C_D_ screen but no mic, or it could make mic but no L_C_D_ Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: screen, Carol Bulmer: that Pauline Capps: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: was a bit Elizabeth Langford: when you Carol Bulmer: mean Elizabeth Langford: look at Carol Bulmer: to Elizabeth Langford: that. Carol Bulmer: put Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: it in the end. And uh what were the other points to to improve this whole Elizabeth Langford: Uh, Carol Bulmer: process? Sarah Molina: Um Elizabeth Langford: I dunno. Sarah Molina: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Think that's about it. Sarah Molina: Nothing. Elizabeth Langford: Hmm. Sarah Molina: I think we got it Elizabeth Langford: Heavier Sarah Molina: already. Elizabeth Langford: um less heavy laptops. Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Sarah Molina: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Uh. Carol Bulmer: they're Pauline Capps: Faster Carol Bulmer: pretty heavy. Pauline Capps: laptop. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Uh. They Elizabeth Langford: But Pauline Capps: were Elizabeth Langford: that's not Pauline Capps: they Elizabeth Langford: really Pauline Capps: were just Sarah Molina: And Elizabeth Langford: uh Pauline Capps: fine. Sarah Molina: furthermore the the the network was okay. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Everything Pauline Capps: Uh. Sarah Molina: you loaded was also Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, everything Sarah Molina: av available Elizabeth Langford: worked. Sarah Molina: there. Pauline Capps: Right. Carol Bulmer: And Sarah Molina: So Carol Bulmer: so more time uh w might have improved the the quality of work, Pauline Capps: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: is what Sarah Molina: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: you say. Okay. Sarah Molina: Yeah, but that It's now half past four half past three, so Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but it's just the the off hours between Sarah Molina: Yeah, Elizabeth Langford: that Sarah Molina: okay. Elizabeth Langford: you will work alone. Sarah Molina: Yeah, okay. Elizabeth Langford: Then it pops up pop up screen came. Sarah Molina: Mm-hm. Elizabeth Langford: Five Sarah Molina: Mm. Elizabeth Langford: minutes in the meeting. Sarah Molina: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Mm. Elizabeth Langford: No. Carol Bulmer: Okay, so more time during the individual work phases. Elizabeth Langford: Huh. Carol Bulmer: Um okay well uh I just got my warning for the last five minutes, Elizabeth Langford: You Carol Bulmer: so Elizabeth Langford: did? Carol Bulmer: I'll Elizabeth Langford: Well Carol Bulmer: move on to I guess my last slide, yes, which is the closing. Well uh, we managed, but we did it very quickly. I don't know if that's the best way to when it isn't is it when it is too expensive to quickly re-arrange it Elizabeth Langford: Oh, Carol Bulmer: and say, okay, Elizabeth Langford: right. Carol Bulmer: this is it, but we Elizabeth Langford: Well Carol Bulmer: had to do it, huh, because we have to have a design, and that is within the budget. And we evaluated. Maybe we should re-evaluate uh the product, but we did that before, and we also evaluated the project. And I think uh everybody's uh very happy. At least I am, with the results, so Sarah Molina: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: uh celebration, Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: well, for the three of you, Elizabeth Langford: Champagne. Carol Bulmer: because uh I have to write the final report now. But uh well, thank you very much for Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: your co-operation, and I had Pauline Capps: Yeah, sure. Carol Bulmer: a very Sarah Molina: No prob. Carol Bulmer: nice day so far. Pauline Capps: Oh thank Sarah Molina: Mm-hmm. Pauline Capps: you. Carol Bulmer: Okay. Elizabeth Langford: Do we get another email? Pauline Capps: Bling. Sarah Molina: I Pauline Capps: You're fired. Sarah Molina: think Carol Bulmer: Um Sarah Molina: you do. Elizabeth Langford: I I think we have to fill in a questionnaire again, but Carol Bulmer: Yeah I have t I think we also have to go to our own rooms again, but Elizabeth Langford: We do? Pauline Capps: Mm. Carol Bulmer: um well I at least. But maybe you can try uh to make a screen shot of this, so I can try Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: to include it in the final report. Elizabeth Langford: Uh th that that one? Pauline Capps: You cannot you Carol Bulmer: Yeah, Pauline Capps: can save Elizabeth Langford: You Pauline Capps: it. Elizabeth Langford: can Carol Bulmer: maybe. Elizabeth Langford: just Carol Bulmer: wants Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, but it's Carol Bulmer: to, Elizabeth Langford: it Carol Bulmer: but Elizabeth Langford: isn't Carol Bulmer: at least Elizabeth Langford: a picture Carol Bulmer: this one. Elizabeth Langford: or, well, is Carol Bulmer: I Elizabeth Langford: it? Carol Bulmer: know, Pauline Capps: You s Carol Bulmer: we Pauline Capps: uh Carol Bulmer: should remove Pauline Capps: file Carol Bulmer: this, Pauline Capps: save Carol Bulmer: but it won't Pauline Capps: as the Carol Bulmer: h Pauline Capps: J_ PEG Carol Bulmer: Okay. Pauline Capps: J_ PEG. Carol Bulmer: And uh please put it in the project folder then, huh. Sarah Molina: Can you find it as a J_ PEG? Pauline Capps: No. Elizabeth Langford: No, isn't possible. But you can make a screen shot, I think. Carol Bulmer: Okay, well I uh Sarah Molina: No. Pauline Capps: No. Carol Bulmer: I hereby officially close the meeting Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Okay. Carol Bulmer: and uh I hope to see you uh soon. Sarah Molina: In Pauline Capps: In Elizabeth Langford: Uh Pauline Capps: about five Elizabeth Langford: oh, Pauline Capps: minutes. Sarah Molina: uh Elizabeth Langford: export. Carol Bulmer: Well, I think we'll be a bit a Pauline Capps: Ah. Carol Bulmer: bit longer, but okay. Well, happy celebration, huh? Pauline Capps: Oh thank you. Elizabeth Langford: Images. Pauline Capps: Whoo-hoo. Let's Sarah Molina: Celebra Pauline Capps: let's have party. Sarah Molina: Or Elizabeth Langford: How big do you want Pauline Capps: Let's Elizabeth Langford: the images? Pauline Capps: have some fun. Sarah Molina: shouldn't I? Carol Bulmer: How big? Pauline Capps: Huh? Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Carol Bulmer: Uh not too big. Elizabeth Langford: This one? Sarah Molina: Six Carol Bulmer: Whatever Sarah Molina: hundred. Carol Bulmer: you think Sarah Molina: No, Carol Bulmer: is good. Sarah Molina: I yeah. Pauline Capps: No that uh is one Sarah Molina: I Pauline Capps: thousand Sarah Molina: think Pauline Capps: twenty Sarah Molina: eight hundred Pauline Capps: four. Sarah Molina: six hundred is better. Elizabeth Langford: This one? Sarah Molina: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Yeah. If it browse. Sarah Molina: Nah, name. Elizabeth Langford: Um Pauline Capps: Desktop. Elizabeth Langford: Well it isn't on the desktop. Sarah Molina: Hey. Pauline Capps: Mm? I do not know. Elizabeth Langford: You can only save it in my documents. Pauline Capps: Oh? Sarah Molina: Oh my God. Pauline Capps: Yeah. Elizabeth Langford: Oh. Oh, alright. Yeah. Pauline Capps: Okay. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Yeah. Three. Can Sarah Molina: Ten. Elizabeth Langford: we stay here? Sarah Molina: Yeah. Ten. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Sarah Molina: Uh. Pauline Capps: Okay. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah, alright. Why can't we stay here? Pauline Capps: Alright. Elizabeth Langford: Yeah. Pauline Capps: Oh. Sarah Molina: Celebration time, come on. Pauline Capps: Oh. Sarah Molina: Peace out nigger. Entree

Carol Bulmer opened the meeting and then Elizabeth Langford and industrial designer presented their prototype for the remote which featured an LCD screen, a scroll button, and a battery indicator. Sarah Molina conducted a project evaluation of the prototype. The team found the remote to be fancy, innovative, fairly easy to use, available in different colors, fairly spongy, difficult to misplace, and targeted to younger people. Carol Bulmer then led the team in calculating the production costs of their remote. The team had difficulty in meeting the the target cost and had to eliminate some of the more expensive components they had hoped to include in their design. Carol Bulmer then led the team in an evaluation of the project process. The team found the project stressful, the equipment useful, the information available to them lacking, and their laptops to be slow and heavy.

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Kathleen Arnold: Hello. 'Kay. Joann Mcclain: You Margie Clay: It's Joann Mcclain: all saw the newsflash? Or you got the same Mildred Cullison: Yeah Joann Mcclain: message? Mildred Cullison: I I just saw it one minute ago Margie Clay: I don't Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: When. Margie Clay: know. Mildred Cullison: I Joann Mcclain: sorry. Mildred Cullison: uh Margie Clay: I didn't it yet I think. Kathleen Arnold: Newsflash? D Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: did I miss something? Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: Yeah Joann Mcclain: I received Mildred Cullison: pretty much. Joann Mcclain: an email so I thought I I can't mail you so I thought I'd just drop it in the Margie Clay: Hey what's Joann Mcclain: folder, Margie Clay: wrong with my Joann Mcclain: but Margie Clay: computer? Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: Is it unlocked? Mildred Cullison: Mm. Kathleen Arnold: No. Mildred Cullison: Yeah that's my presentation. Joann Mcclain: Woah. I uh Margie Clay: Huh? Kathleen Arnold: Mm. Joann Mcclain: kind of opened it. Mildred Cullison: Mm? Margie Clay: What the Mildred Cullison: Oh Joann Mcclain: Uh Mildred Cullison: right. Kathleen Arnold: I think you have to uh change Joann Mcclain: Okay. Kathleen Arnold: your desktop uh size. Mildred Cullison: Ooh. Joann Mcclain: 'Kay. Everybody ready? Margie Clay: Not Mildred Cullison: Well Margie Clay: really. Sorry. Joann Mcclain: No Kathleen Arnold: computer Joann Mcclain: no Kathleen Arnold: is Joann Mcclain: no. Kathleen Arnold: uh not functioning? Joann Mcclain: Yes yes yes. Mildred Cullison: Alright. Margie Clay: Okay. Where Joann Mcclain: Okay. Margie Clay: do I find this? I'm not so g display huh? Kathleen Arnold: Uh display. And then uh Margie Clay: Appearance? Kathleen Arnold: settings? Mildred Cullison: Huh. Kathleen Arnold: Mm I'm not sure Mildred Cullison: You Kathleen Arnold: I. Mildred Cullison: read the newsflash? Kathleen Arnold: No. Joann Mcclain: 'Kay. Margie Clay: No what Mildred Cullison: Hmm. Margie Clay: was Joann Mcclain: Can Margie Clay: it Joann Mcclain: we Margie Clay: about? Joann Mcclain: get started or is there some pressing Margie Clay: Yeah my computer is Joann Mcclain: issue? Margie Clay: not functioning properly. Joann Mcclain: Oh no pressing. Did you plug in the power cable when you come back? Margie Clay: Yeah yeah. No but my screen is reduced in size. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: What? Joann Mcclain: That's difficult. Yeah. Margie Clay: Yeah. Feedback. Mildred Cullison: Hmm. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Margie Clay: Okay. Mildred Cullison: alt delete. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Format. Joann Mcclain: Format save. Mildred Cullison: So it doesn't draw the attention away. Margie Clay: This is Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: dreadful. Kathleen Arnold: I made uh uh my own map. Margie Clay: No not Joann Mcclain: Oh Margie Clay: this, Joann Mcclain: yeah Margie Clay: but Kathleen Arnold: It's Joann Mcclain: sure. Kathleen Arnold: a Margie Clay: the task. Joann Mcclain: You have Playstation also? Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: No. okay. No I just flapped it, closed it, took it here and then this happened. Margie Clay: Ah. Uh where was it? In settings? Okay. Alright. Thank you. Joann Mcclain: Huh. Margie Clay: Do you guys like your tasks? Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: I spent a lot of time thinking about what I was gonna do Kathleen Arnold: Yeah Margie Clay: and then Kathleen Arnold: wa wa you actually Margie Clay: a couple of minutes before this I get my function you know Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: the information that I need. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: So Kathleen Arnold: But Margie Clay: frustrating. Kathleen Arnold: it's not clear what you have to Margie Clay: So Kathleen Arnold: to to type Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: uh Mildred Cullison: I I Kathleen Arnold: type Mildred Cullison: had Kathleen Arnold: in your Mildred Cullison: a whole Kathleen Arnold: presentation. Mildred Cullison: idea and then just Margie Clay: Yeah Mildred Cullison: was typing it and oh. I to do that so Margie Clay: Yeah Mildred Cullison: switch. Margie Clay: exactly. This presentation is mainly based on my own ideas 'cause I hadn't time to intergrate tha the information yet Mildred Cullison: Mm. Margie Clay: so Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: Really annoying. Joann Mcclain: Okay. So there we are again. Mildred Cullison: By your humble P_M_. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Okay this is the agenda. Um we have three presentations, I heard. Kathleen Arnold: Really. Joann Mcclain: Yeah really. So who wants to start? Mildred Cullison: Yeah that's fine. Margie Clay: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: We have to start it right away? Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Functional? Joann Mcclain: Uh this is you? Mildred Cullison: Yeah functional requirements. Joann Mcclain: 'Kay. Mildred Cullison: Alright. I'm gonna talk about functional requirements. Um Well uh some research has be done uh has been done. Uh observing of one hundred uh subjects in the usability lab using a remote control. Uh and they also filled in a questionnaire. The findings were um, well you can see them for yourself. They disliked the look-and-feel of current remotes controls. Users think they're ugly. Um they do not match the the operating behaviour of the users. So they they d they don't match what they want to have on it. Um they are often lost somewhere in the room. Um it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote control. And they're bad for R_S_I_. I don't know uh how a user can reach that but okay. Um Margie Clay: Ts Mildred Cullison: there is also uh was also some research on uh the most relevant and and and irrelevant uh f functions. Uh most irrelevant and less used were audio settings, mono, stereo, uh pitch, bass. Um screen settings for brightness and colour and stuff like that. Um but they are used. I mean the Margie Clay: So they do need to be in the Mildred Cullison: Yeah they Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: do need to be on the on the remote control. I Margie Clay: Alright. Mildred Cullison: mean if you can't control the the sound settings I mean if you dislike a very uh loud bass or something, you you need to change that. So um Joann Mcclain: often. Margie Clay: By Mildred Cullison: yeah Margie Clay: the way my Mildred Cullison: we have Margie Clay: T_V_ Mildred Cullison: to. We Margie Clay: doesn't Mildred Cullison: c we c Margie Clay: have an equ equaliser Mildred Cullison: Yeah Margie Clay: but Mildred Cullison: I mean w Margie Clay: okay. Mildred Cullison: we can't Joann Mcclain: Next Mildred Cullison: my my Joann Mcclain: generation Mildred Cullison: T_V_ has, Joann Mcclain: does. Margie Clay: No. Mildred Cullison: but Margie Clay: Alright. Mildred Cullison: we we can leave them uh away. Uh most relevant, uh most used functions, uh they speak for themselves I guess. Uh power button, uh channel, volume selection. Uh teletext but we can skip that because I saw the newsflash, and teletext is so outdated that it it's i Joann Mcclain: N not Mildred Cullison: should Joann Mcclain: used Mildred Cullison: not Joann Mcclain: anymore. Mildred Cullison: be used uh any more in the future. So forget this one. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Mildred Cullison: Uh channel settings, so for programming uh your channels in in the Margie Clay: By Mildred Cullison: right Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: the Mildred Cullison: order. Margie Clay: way where did you guys get that newsflash Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: from? I Mildred Cullison: Yeah, Margie Clay: didn't Mildred Cullison: on Margie Clay: get Kathleen Arnold: I Margie Clay: anything. Kathleen Arnold: was wondering Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: on Kathleen Arnold: uh Mildred Cullison: the project uh Joann Mcclain: Not by mail. I receiv the mail but you don't. So Mildred Cullison: No Kathleen Arnold: But you Mildred Cullison: so it's Kathleen Arnold: you've Mildred Cullison: a text Kathleen Arnold: got more Mildred Cullison: file Kathleen Arnold: information Mildred Cullison: n in the project Kathleen Arnold: than Mildred Cullison: folder. So teletext Kathleen Arnold: uh. Mildred Cullison: can be skipped. Joann Mcclain: That's in the presentation, so Margie Clay: Alright. Mildred Cullison: Um there was some research on new features in a remote control. Uh about an L_C_D_ screen uh and speech recognition. Well we got an update for the for the audience. Or the the the targeted group. So it's above forty I guess. Joann Mcclain: Uh Mildred Cullison: The Joann Mcclain: below Mildred Cullison: new product? Joann Mcclain: I believe. Mildred Cullison: Or below Joann Mcclain: Yeah below forty. Mildred Cullison: because that's pretty relevant. Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: I thought I read Joann Mcclain: Our Mildred Cullison: a Joann Mcclain: current customers are in the age group forty plus. Mildred Cullison: Yeah? Joann Mcclain: And the new product should reach new markets, which is Mildred Cullison: Below? Joann Mcclain: the customers below forty. Mildred Cullison: Okay well Kathleen Arnold: But where did you get Mildred Cullison: that's Kathleen Arnold: uh Joann Mcclain: That's Kathleen Arnold: that Joann Mcclain: in Kathleen Arnold: information? Joann Mcclain: a newsflash. Mildred Cullison: that's in the newsfla okay Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Mildred Cullison: that's a good to know. Um because you see see Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: a clear distinction between the age groups, concerning the features. I mean uh above forty people are not so interested uh not so interested in a screen or speech recognition. Uh but below that age they uh they pretty much are. So I think we can build that in. Um Yeah well we can skip this part as well, because I thought I read above forty so we could skip the features, but we just have to build them in because uh they find it very interesting. Um well we have to keep all the classic functions but make the buttons as user-friendly as possible. Um and and also there's so not only the design of the bus uh buttons but o how you can push them, and stuff like that. So the physical uh aspect of it. Um And I think and certainly for for the for the lower age groups, uh nice design, which uh does not make the remote control in your room. It's it's Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: actually a part of your interior, of of your design in your room. So it's the people can say, well what's that, well that's my remote control, so it's d Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: it has to look nice and feel nice, and and have all the functions Joann Mcclain: But Mildred Cullison: that Joann Mcclain: it also Mildred Cullison: uh Joann Mcclain: needs to have corporate identity. Mildred Cullison: Yeah so the the logo has to be uh Joann Mcclain: Present and the colours. Mildred Cullison: present yeah, and the colours as well. Joann Mcclain: So we can't change much of that. Margie Clay: Do we have Mildred Cullison: Yeah Margie Clay: uh Mildred Cullison: so Margie Clay: yeah. Mildred Cullison: but I I don't think that's that's a problem because the thing Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: has to have a colour anyway, Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: and Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: most of the times there is a brand present on it. So Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: I think that's not gonna Joann Mcclain: Okay. Mildred Cullison: gonna affect it very uh very much. Well that are the the consequences uh on a marketing uh part. Margie Clay: Alright. Mildred Cullison: Yes. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: 'Kay. It's open already so you can use to Kathleen Arnold: Mm. Joann Mcclain: find yours. Kathleen Arnold: It's Joann Mcclain: F_ five. Kathleen Arnold: F_ five. Okay. Oh. Joann Mcclain: Go Jurgen. Kathleen Arnold: What is this? Oh no. How do I uh Joann Mcclain: You pressed alt F_ four? Kathleen Arnold: No no no. I pressed the mouse button. Joann Mcclain: Oh great. Margie Clay: It's th that's the self-destruct button. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Uh Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: maybe you can do it from your computer Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: so Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Um Joann Mcclain: talk Mildred Cullison: Just Joann Mcclain: us through Kathleen Arnold: if you Joann Mcclain: it. Kathleen Arnold: all go Mildred Cullison: yeah. Kathleen Arnold: stand around Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: uh Computer Mildred Cullison: Sure. Margie Clay: Alright. Kathleen Arnold: Um Joann Mcclain: That's nice. Kathleen Arnold: No. Joann Mcclain: F_ five. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Mildred Cullison: Alright. Kathleen Arnold: I uh had uh two examples. Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Arnold: Um this one is the the yeah the advanced one with a lot of options and functions and Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Arnold: buttons. This Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: the easy one I think we have to to combine them. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Arnold: And Margie Clay: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Arnold: uh yeah merge the best functions of all examples. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Um but yeah the the age is uh under Joann Mcclain: The Kathleen Arnold: forty? Joann Mcclain: mm Mildred Cullison: Yeah Joann Mcclain: yeah. Mildred Cullison: and Kathleen Arnold: So we Mildred Cullison: and and marketing research stated that that that kind of users are not afraid of of a lot Kathleen Arnold: Okay Mildred Cullison: of functions. Kathleen Arnold: so so we have the option Mildred Cullison: So not Kathleen Arnold: for Mildred Cullison: not Kathleen Arnold: more Mildred Cullison: too much Kathleen Arnold: functions. Mildred Cullison: but yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Um yeah. Margie Clay: And we do have to integrate the screen and the the speech Mildred Cullison: the speech recognition yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: alright. Kathleen Arnold: Uh yeah this this one we can remove for kids. It's just only for adults so uh we can uh use some advanced options. Mildred Cullison: Yeah from Kathleen Arnold: But Mildred Cullison: age of sixteen Kathleen Arnold: Yeah Mildred Cullison: so Kathleen Arnold: but I Mildred Cullison: yeah. Kathleen Arnold: prefer we we uh use the the basic options uh yeah. We have to to make them very easy so Mildred Cullison: Mm. Kathleen Arnold: for just Margie Clay: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Arnold: uh zapping around the channels you can just push one button. Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Arnold: But if you want to to use your your video recorder or something else, you should use use an uh an advanced option. Mildred Cullison: Yeah but uh the the newsflash also stated that it should control only one device, Kathleen Arnold: Okay Mildred Cullison: only Kathleen Arnold: one Mildred Cullison: your Kathleen Arnold: device. Mildred Cullison: television. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: So Mildred Cullison: So Joann Mcclain: n Kathleen Arnold: I Joann Mcclain: it's Kathleen Arnold: didn't Mildred Cullison: w Joann Mcclain: very easy. Kathleen Arnold: see. Joann Mcclain: Now Kathleen Arnold: Okay Joann Mcclain: yeah Mildred Cullison: So Joann Mcclain: it's okay. Mildred Cullison: there are not extra options in this case, Kathleen Arnold: and Mildred Cullison: but Joann Mcclain: Okay. Mildred Cullison: uh Kathleen Arnold: I also uh yeah. W yeah. We have to make it fashionable. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Like Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: you uh said uh before. Uh yeah the basic functions. Um yeah only use a extra function if they are really needed. Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: so maybe you can hide them or something. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah well what what we can do with the screen is is all the the configuration options, you can put that in the screen. Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: And the Joann Mcclain: you make Mildred Cullison: and Joann Mcclain: a Mildred Cullison: the Joann Mcclain: screen menu or something. Mildred Cullison: yeah screen Margie Clay: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: menu to to to uh Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: to do that, and then the basic function just on the device itself. So it Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: looks very simple and all the advanced features are hidden in the screen, Joann Mcclain: Yeah Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: uh Joann Mcclain: and Mildred Cullison: with Joann Mcclain: the other Mildred Cullison: a clear Joann Mcclain: oth Mildred Cullison: menu. Joann Mcclain: other uh functionality is the screen. What does the screen do? Mildred Cullison: Uh. Margie Clay: Alright. Kathleen Arnold: Did I Mildred Cullison: What Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: are Kathleen Arnold: uh Mildred Cullison: wh Kathleen Arnold: did I break Joann Mcclain: It's Kathleen Arnold: it? Joann Mcclain: low power. Mildred Cullison: What. Joann Mcclain: So what does the screen do? They said they needed it but what does it do? What do they want with the screen? Kathleen Arnold: For for the advanced functions I think. Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: Yeah Joann Mcclain: that's what Mildred Cullison: well Joann Mcclain: we make Mildred Cullison: it Joann Mcclain: it up. Mildred Cullison: yeah Joann Mcclain: So Mildred Cullison: it didn't Joann Mcclain: but Mildred Cullison: it Joann Mcclain: what did Mildred Cullison: didn't Joann Mcclain: the marketing Mildred Cullison: say what they want to do with Joann Mcclain: No. Mildred Cullison: the screen. Well I, my guess is it's it's pretty handy for advanced Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: uh Joann Mcclain: okay it's Mildred Cullison: advanced Joann Mcclain: handy. Mildred Cullison: functions. Joann Mcclain: With Kathleen Arnold: Like searching Joann Mcclain: no predefined Kathleen Arnold: for channels and Joann Mcclain: uh Mildred Cullison: Yeah searching Margie Clay: Ah look. Mildred Cullison: for channels, programming Margie Clay: We Mildred Cullison: them. Margie Clay: have Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: your uh oh never mind. Joann Mcclain: We're back online. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. That's uh I'm al I'm almost finished so Joann Mcclain: Okay. Kathleen Arnold: Um the we have to to to watch out for the i if we make it f very fashionable, it it the functional functionality will go down. So we have to make uh a compromise between functionality and fashional Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Arnold: fashionable Joann Mcclain: Content and form. Kathleen Arnold: yeah Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: content and form. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Now that that was Joann Mcclain: That was Kathleen Arnold: uh Joann Mcclain: the end. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: was the end. Margie Clay: Okay. Kathleen Arnold: Yes. Joann Mcclain: Okay. Margie Clay: Well my presentation is a bit uh sucky. Mildred Cullison: Well you can improvise Joann Mcclain: Uh which one Mildred Cullison: right? Joann Mcclain: is it? Technical functions? Margie Clay: Yeah a little bit. Uh Joann Mcclain: This one? Margie Clay: no. No no. Joann Mcclain: Functional requirements? Margie Clay: Yeah I think that would be it then. Joann Mcclain: No. Mildred Cullison: So we we Margie Clay: I Mildred Cullison: can Margie Clay: have Joann Mcclain: You Margie Clay: no Mildred Cullison: go Joann Mcclain: didn't Margie Clay: idea. Mildred Cullison: for Joann Mcclain: put it in? Or Margie Clay: That w. Joann Mcclain: it's Margie Clay: Let Mildred Cullison check. Joann Mcclain: not really English. Margie Clay: I know. Joann Mcclain: Uh kick off. Oh working design I got it. Margie Clay: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: So we can go for the look-and-feel of the the left example, and then a screen on top of it. Joann Mcclain: Here you go. Margie Clay: Alright how do I uh skip pages? Joann Mcclain: Just uh press uh yeah. Margie Clay: The keys Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: yeah? Alright. Um yeah well I was working on this before I got my information. So I was just working off the top of my head and Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Margie Clay: using my colin common knowledge about uh remote controls. And well the info on the website which Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Margie Clay: came too late. Um so I didn't really know what kind of functions we had to put into it yet. So Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Margie Clay: uh uh this is basically an overview of what we discussed in our last uh meeting. Those were my uh starting Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Margie Clay: points. Uh I was working on a s yeah on a schedule, and I was supposed to do it like this. But um yeah then uh the information came and it was kind of exact with all the steps in the remote control that I had to follow, so I was Joann Mcclain: Mm. Margie Clay: trying to organise them for myself. And then make the Mildred Cullison: Design? Margie Clay: the Joann Mcclain: Design Margie Clay: design, Joann Mcclain: yeah. Margie Clay: a Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: the actual design, but I never came around to do that. So Mildred Cullison: Okay. Margie Clay: I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say about it. I mean everything speaks for itself I guess. Mean you press a button Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Margie Clay: um the it tru goes, it sends a signal to a chip, which uh translates it into infrared signal of certin spatial frequencies. Mildred Cullison: Yeah Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: frequency. Yeah. Margie Clay: And uh or temporal fr frequencies actually. And then uh through a uh transformer, it Joann Mcclain: Yeah Margie Clay: the Joann Mcclain: decoder. Margie Clay: signal gets boosted and then sent to the to the receiver on the T_V_ and the T_V_ will translate it into a function. Um Yeah well this was actually all I Joann Mcclain: Blank. Margie Clay: got around to do. Joann Mcclain: Yeah Margie Clay: I mean Joann Mcclain: okay. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: I Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: dunno if I'm too slow for this stuff, but uh Joann Mcclain: Work harder. Kathleen Arnold: Okay shou should Margie Clay: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: we make a list Margie Clay: Whatever. Kathleen Arnold: of the of all the functions we want Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: uh Joann Mcclain: Uh Mildred Cullison: Yeah we want to incorporate in Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: uh into it. Joann Mcclain: 'Kay. Um for those that didn't see yet um the basic new requirements of the management were no teletext, only for T_V_. Uh it should be designed for a use g uh group below forty, but I don't think it's w wrong if we can uh target the current customer group as well. Mildred Cullison: Mm. Joann Mcclain: And uh the corporate identity should be clear in the design of the remote control. And we have to decide on the functions, and on the, let's see what was it, uh the target group. We have to make be clear what that is. Mildred Cullison: group of users, or Joann Mcclain: Yeah users. Mildred Cullison: because it says below forty I mean. Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: I guess Joann Mcclain: so Mildred Cullison: that's that's Joann Mcclain: I think Mildred Cullison: the tar Joann Mcclain: it's easy but Kathleen Arnold: But Mildred Cullison: yeah Kathleen Arnold: uh it's Mildred Cullison: uh or male Kathleen Arnold: it's also Mildred Cullison: and female Kathleen Arnold: for children or just Mildred Cullison: Uh Kathleen Arnold: uh Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: six Joann Mcclain: it's below forty so we Mildred Cullison: the Joann Mcclain: can Mildred Cullison: marketing Joann Mcclain: decide Mildred Cullison: research Joann Mcclain: where Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: to Mildred Cullison: started on s on the age of sixteen. Sixteen Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Mildred Cullison: to twenty five, twenty five to thirty five, Joann Mcclain: Okay. Mildred Cullison: thirty five to forty five, something like that. So Joann Mcclain: So Mildred Cullison: um Joann Mcclain: below forty is okay. But we need an lower level which to s uh Mildred Cullison: How Joann Mcclain: focus. Mildred Cullison: do you mean? Joann Mcclain: So is it from sixteen to forty? Is it from twenty to forty? Is Mildred Cullison: Uh Joann Mcclain: it from Mildred Cullison: sixteen Joann Mcclain: thirty? Mildred Cullison: to forty. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah? Mildred Cullison: Well Kathleen Arnold: We we Joann Mcclain: 'Kay. Kathleen Arnold: have to Mildred Cullison: I I guess people of sixteen are are quite used to technology. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: So they they adapt to it pretty soon I guess. Kathleen Arnold: And if we have a larger public we have uh yeah more options to Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: to uh sell our product. Margie Clay: Yeah so what we might wanna do is uh yeah cust I have customised the screen functions, if you know what I mean. The Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Margie Clay: uh younger users are more acquainted with these kind of machines so they can use more advanced functions. But maybe elderly people don't understand it so well, so they need a simpler remote. Joann Mcclain: Design. Margie Clay: And Joann Mcclain: Mm. Margie Clay: yeah that you can choose what the design displays, or Kathleen Arnold: Yeah Margie Clay: wha whatever. Kathleen Arnold: that's that's why uh I wanted to to make yeah two uh different uh yeah groups of functions. The the simple functions for for the the whole public, Margie Clay: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: and the the advanced options for the younger people yeah who are Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Arnold: more yeah Margie Clay: Experienced Joann Mcclain: And Kathleen Arnold: experienced Mildred Cullison: But Joann Mcclain: maybe Margie Clay: yeah. Mildred Cullison: uh all Kathleen Arnold: with Mildred Cullison: incorporated Kathleen Arnold: uh Joann Mcclain: y Mildred Cullison: in the screen or or just Kathleen Arnold: Na Mildred Cullison: on the remote itself? Kathleen Arnold: I w I should uh put uh the the yeah the extra advanced options on the onto the onscreen display. Mildred Cullison: Yeah Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: like like you have a visual of the of the brightness with with Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: a kind Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: of sliding bar and Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: a bus and and stuff like that for sound and and vis and and visuals? Joann Mcclain: So is you should have a menu for all the the functions Mildred Cullison: Uh you can make Joann Mcclain: you don't Mildred Cullison: a Joann Mcclain: use regular Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: and which Mildred Cullison: if you Joann Mcclain: are Mildred Cullison: make a drawing. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Aye yeah. Mildred Cullison: Uh Uh. Joann Mcclain: Shall I uh Mildred Cullison: Uh black's okay. And draw it very big. Oh. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. It's okay. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: no, it doesn't have line control, so Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah we get the Mildred Cullison: Yeah well, this is basically uh Margie Clay: The remote? Mildred Cullison: it's alright Joann Mcclain: The remote, Mildred Cullison: the remote? Joann Mcclain: yeah? Mildred Cullison: Um Joann Mcclain: Basic. Mildred Cullison: well usually the power button Joann Mcclain: Is on Mildred Cullison: is Joann Mcclain: top. Mildred Cullison: on top I Joann Mcclain: Which Mildred Cullison: guess. Joann Mcclain: should be easy, easily reached with the thumb. Mildred Cullison: Yeah so Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: it should fit right Kathleen Arnold: L left Mildred Cullison: in into Kathleen Arnold: top Mildred Cullison: your Kathleen Arnold: or Mildred Cullison: hand. Kathleen Arnold: right uh top? Mildred Cullison: Right. Joann Mcclain: T I s should Margie Clay: Right Kathleen Arnold: Yeah, Mildred Cullison: Right. Margie Clay: top. Kathleen Arnold: right. Joann Mcclain: said Mildred Cullison: I Joann Mcclain: right. Mildred Cullison: most people Joann Mcclain: Because Mildred Cullison: are right-handed so Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Margie Clay: Yeah Joann Mcclain: yeah. Margie Clay: definitely. Mildred Cullison: maybe left-handed special addition, but okay. If you put it like like here. Or something. I dunno. Um then you could put a screen, like on a mobile phone, also on top I guess. Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah but if you are using the the normal functions, the the basic functions, you normally Joann Mcclain: Do Kathleen Arnold: press Joann Mcclain: the Kathleen Arnold: them Joann Mcclain: also Kathleen Arnold: on the Joann Mcclain: with the thumb. Kathleen Arnold: u yeah. Joann Mcclain: So it should be a little bit longer so that you can put your uh thumb, also reach the middle. Or you should screen at the bottom and then you can see it very clearly. Mildred Cullison: Okay so y yeah you have you have it Joann Mcclain: You Mildred Cullison: in your hand, Joann Mcclain: you need Mildred Cullison: and the Joann Mcclain: to Mildred Cullison: screen is below, Joann Mcclain: be able to hold it so Mildred Cullison: and Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: the buttons are in the middle. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Okay for example if you put the screen here, it's more about the functions now than the Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: than the layout. Joann Mcclain: okay that's true. Layout. That's Mildred Cullison: Doesn't Joann Mcclain: for the Mildred Cullison: work too well. It's uh it's bent. Joann Mcclain: I can't help it. Kathleen Arnold: You broke it. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Man. Mildred Cullison: Right. Joann Mcclain: Yeah okay. Mildred Cullison: Okay you get it. Uh for example if y if you put all the Right. Joann Mcclain: You want the normal piece of paper? And you have a pen? Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: And might be Mildred Cullison: Maybe Margie Clay: easier Mildred Cullison: this. Margie Clay: huh? Mildred Cullison: kind of works. Joann Mcclain: Yeah? Mildred Cullison: Like if you have like uh ten buttons for for all the for all Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: the channels, um Joann Mcclain: Uh. Mildred Cullison: and here one for Joann Mcclain: And the Mildred Cullison: for Joann Mcclain: for flipping up Kathleen Arnold: Yeah Joann Mcclain: and down. Kathleen Arnold: yeah. And volume control. Mildred Cullison: Yeah that that usually uh Margie Clay: Yeah Mildred Cullison: like Margie Clay: I Mildred Cullison: here, here, here, here. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: So Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: you have up and down for the for the channels, Joann Mcclain: And left Mildred Cullison: and left Joann Mcclain: to right. Mildred Cullison: and right for the volume Joann Mcclain: And Mildred Cullison: uh Joann Mcclain: those can also be used for the menu. Margie Clay: Yeah exactly. I thought Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: but this is really your department, Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: that we need just the functional display Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: and Joann Mcclain: Yeah Margie Clay: four Joann Mcclain: okay Margie Clay: cursors. Joann Mcclain: but this is function Mildred Cullison: And Joann Mcclain: so Mildred Cullison: you you have Joann Mcclain: if Margie Clay: And Joann Mcclain: you can use them for multiple Mildred Cullison: most Joann Mcclain: things Mildred Cullison: of the time you Margie Clay: Yeah Mildred Cullison: have Margie Clay: okay. Mildred Cullison: one button in the middle. It Joann Mcclain: For Mildred Cullison: says Joann Mcclain: the menu. Mildred Cullison: menu, Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: and then if you press it you the screen gets activated and then you can use these buttons Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Margie Clay: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: to scroll up and down and left and right to go into functon and then just Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: mo most of the time this menu button is also like okay, to to confirm a a kind Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: of action. So you scroll into it, okay. You select a function like v like uh bass. You just adjust it with these two buttons. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Then okay to confirm, and then uh on on each on each screen there's there should be an option to go back to a to a upper level. And then Margie Clay: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: finally say okay, exit. Or or one button to exit it. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Uh in one time I dunno, that's not really my department. That's more your uh your department to Kathleen Arnold: And Mildred Cullison: to Kathleen Arnold: do Mildred Cullison: uh Kathleen Arnold: we need Mildred Cullison: to Kathleen Arnold: a a logo on our uh remote control, or Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: But it should be if the screen is here then the logo should be like Kathleen Arnold: On the left Mildred Cullison: on Kathleen Arnold: uh Mildred Cullison: on top, Kathleen Arnold: top Mildred Cullison: yeah. Kathleen Arnold: yeah. Mildred Cullison: I mean it's uh Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: Yeah but that depends on where you put the screen. But Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: it's essential that there is a screen. Mildred Cullison: Yeah I mean the position of the screen is also more essential than I mean we we look where we have space left and then put the logo over there. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. And Mildred Cullison: But um Joann Mcclain: for the speech uh recognition part, if we want to incorporate that, we need a microphone. Mildred Cullison: Yeah so it should be I mean if you have it in your hand here, should be on top somewhere, Joann Mcclain: Yeah. This Mildred Cullison: maybe. Joann Mcclain: would be uh Margie Clay: Why Mildred Cullison: I Margie Clay: did Mildred Cullison: mean Margie Clay: we Mildred Cullison: i Margie Clay: wanna put the display in the bottom? Joann Mcclain: No that's not s sure so Mildred Cullison: That's Margie Clay: Okay. Mildred Cullison: not sure but Joann Mcclain: uh Mildred Cullison: it's Kathleen Arnold: Yeah Joann Mcclain: we need Kathleen Arnold: may Joann Mcclain: a Kathleen Arnold: maybe Joann Mcclain: display. Margie Clay: Because Kathleen Arnold: because Margie Clay: yeah Kathleen Arnold: you're Margie Clay: if you use the functions your hand will block the display. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah okay but only for the basic functi if you're going to use the advanced option, you're going to press the the menu button and then yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah I mean a screen on top looks more Margie Clay: Normal Mildred Cullison: lo Margie Clay: for logical Mildred Cullison: logical to Mildred Cullison. Also Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: t Mildred Cullison: because people use m mobile phones and Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: they also Joann Mcclain: they're Mildred Cullison: have Joann Mcclain: used Mildred Cullison: the screen Joann Mcclain: to it. Mildred Cullison: on top. Kathleen Arnold: Okay the yeah. Mildred Cullison: So Kathleen Arnold: That's possible. Mildred Cullison: you you just have to reach a little bit for the power button. Margie Clay: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: I mean if you grab Margie Clay: On Mildred Cullison: it. Margie Clay: once it's on it's on. Mildred Cullison: But Margie Clay: You don't need Mildred Cullison: most Margie Clay: the Kathleen Arnold: Yeah, Margie Clay: power Mildred Cullison: most Margie Clay: button. Kathleen Arnold: okay. Mildred Cullison: of the times if a if if a T_V_'s on standby people just press a channel Kathleen Arnold: Okay we put it on top. Mildred Cullison: to put it on. So we put this on top, Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: and then make the corporate logo like over here. R_R_. And j and the microphone, I mean it can be very small. If you look at your mobile phones Margie Clay: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: are some stripes, little little holes. Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Margie Clay: Maybe on the top or even on the side. Mildred Cullison: Yeah maybe on the side. I mean Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: if the if Joann Mcclain: but Mildred Cullison: the Joann Mcclain: then Mildred Cullison: microphone Joann Mcclain: it's possible Mildred Cullison: is Joann Mcclain: that Mildred Cullison: good. Joann Mcclain: you cover it with your hand so Margie Clay: True. Mildred Cullison: Yeah Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: okay. So Joann Mcclain: I think Mildred Cullison: on Joann Mcclain: that Mildred Cullison: the on Joann Mcclain: top Mildred Cullison: the Joann Mcclain: is Mildred Cullison: top Joann Mcclain: the best Mildred Cullison: is Joann Mcclain: option. Mildred Cullison: better. Margie Clay: But if you uh if you hold the ma the remote like this, if you put it on the top on the side I dunno. Joann Mcclain: Yeah okay. Margie Clay: Should be able to Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: work. Joann Mcclain: Depends Margie Clay: Never mind. Joann Mcclain: on the sensitivity of the microphone, Margie Clay: Can we Joann Mcclain: but Margie Clay: leave Joann Mcclain: I Margie Clay: this Joann Mcclain: think Margie Clay: up to Joann Mcclain: that's Margie Clay: you? Joann Mcclain: okay. Mildred Cullison: Yeah it doesn't matter that much. So but um the screen is on top? Which functions did we have left? I mean this is basically numbers, Joann Mcclain: Volume. Mildred Cullison: volume, uh channel Joann Mcclain: Up. Mildred Cullison: up and down. Joann Mcclain: Channel up and down, Mildred Cullison: Screen Joann Mcclain: and the control Mildred Cullison: is over Joann Mcclain: of Mildred Cullison: there. Joann Mcclain: the advanced options. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: So Kathleen Arnold: If Joann Mcclain: maybe Kathleen Arnold: we Joann Mcclain: it, we should decide what advanced options we want to put in the L_C_D_ screen. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. That's uh that's a good one. Margie Clay: Yeah so we we needed to integrate the sound and uh and image options right? Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah Margie Clay: Like Joann Mcclain: so sounds? Margie Clay: uh bass uh Mildred Cullison: Sound? Margie Clay: so we need kind of an equaliser. If Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: you Mildred Cullison: Equaliser. So if you have sound But not too advanced. I mean most T_V_s use only treble Kathleen Arnold: Yeah it Joann Mcclain: Yeah Kathleen Arnold: it's Mildred Cullison: and Joann Mcclain: and Kathleen Arnold: just Mildred Cullison: bass. Joann Mcclain: they're Kathleen Arnold: a remote control Margie Clay: Yeah treble, Kathleen Arnold: so Joann Mcclain: They're Margie Clay: middl Joann Mcclain: not used Margie Clay: middle, Joann Mcclain: often Margie Clay: bass or something. Joann Mcclain: so Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. It's uh pretty hard to write. Margie Clay: Ah as. Mildred Cullison: Mm. Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: Okay Joann Mcclain: just Mildred Cullison: but you have sound? Joann Mcclain: Yeah sounds. Mildred Cullison: Yeah just Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: oh y you have digital uh better write it down over there yeah. Joann Mcclain: Of course. Mildred Cullison: So you have sound. Joann Mcclain: I'm just a secretary. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Coffee? Mildred Cullison: Uh Margie Clay: Yes Mildred Cullison: yeah sound Margie Clay: please. Mildred Cullison: and then within sound I guess treble and bass? Joann Mcclain: Treble bass. Margie Clay: the mono stereo option? Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Uh Mildred Cullison: Also. Margie Clay: And then Joann Mcclain: Pitch I believe, Margie Clay: pitch. Joann Mcclain: yeah. Mildred Cullison: Pitch. Yeah. But pitch, isn't that yeah that's the the height Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: The fr Mildred Cullison: of the Margie Clay: yeah Mildred Cullison: tone. Margie Clay: the frequency of the tones, yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah okay, Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: wh why Joann Mcclain: and Mildred Cullison: would you Joann Mcclain: mono Mildred Cullison: use that? Joann Mcclain: stereo. Margie Clay: Yeah Mildred Cullison: If Margie Clay: isn't Mildred Cullison: people Margie Clay: that Mildred Cullison: like Margie Clay: that Mildred Cullison: talk Margie Clay: depends Mildred Cullison: like uh Margie Clay: on the on the signal of the of what program you're watching. Joann Mcclain: Mm. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: And also the tuning part? Mildred Cullison: Programming part. Joann Mcclain: Yeah programming. Mildred Cullison: Uh Joann Mcclain: So channel programming? Mildred Cullison: so we have sound, yeah? Channel programming. Margie Clay: And yeah in the functionality of the Kathleen Arnold: Television uh Margie Clay: no no Kathleen Arnold: itself Margie Clay: of the Kathleen Arnold: uh Margie Clay: remote uh do do we want uh the buttons to make sound when you press them? As a confirmation Kathleen Arnold: Mm. Margie Clay: or whatever Mildred Cullison: Mm. Margie Clay: you know? I dunno. Joann Mcclain: Mm. Mildred Cullison: I think it g it gets annoying. I mean Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: most mobile Kathleen Arnold: We Mildred Cullison: phones Kathleen Arnold: we could make Mildred Cullison: used Kathleen Arnold: an option Mildred Cullison: that in the Kathleen Arnold: for Mildred Cullison: beginning Kathleen Arnold: it, but Mildred Cullison: but Kathleen Arnold: uh you can disable Margie Clay: Under Kathleen Arnold: s Margie Clay: the a yeah advanced option Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: menu you can put those things. Kathleen Arnold: But Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: uh the the television itself has also the the options brightness and uh screen colour etcetera. So Joann Mcclain: Contrast yeah. Kathleen Arnold: yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah but people don't want to sit on their knees on their knees in front of their television Joann Mcclain: Mm. Mildred Cullison: with Joann Mcclain: No. Mildred Cullison: only three buttons Joann Mcclain: Uh, Mildred Cullison: then it's very hard to Joann Mcclain: so contrast, Mildred Cullison: y Margie Clay: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: yeah contrast and brightness? Joann Mcclain: bright, Mildred Cullison: Yeah those are the most Joann Mcclain: uh Mildred Cullison: used I guess. If Joann Mcclain: And Mildred Cullison: you look Joann Mcclain: the others Mildred Cullison: at your Joann Mcclain: were Mildred Cullison: monitor. Joann Mcclain: in your presentation right? So I can Mildred Cullison: Well Joann Mcclain: just copy those? Mildred Cullison: yeah well I guess that these were the only ones, I guess. Joann Mcclain: Okay. It's easy. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: But so Mildred Cullison: I Margie Clay: we have Mildred Cullison: will look Margie Clay: we Mildred Cullison: it up. Margie Clay: have T_V_ options, which is all this. Joann Mcclain: Yeah the Margie Clay: The Joann Mcclain: button Margie Clay: sound, Joann Mcclain: options and Margie Clay: sound Joann Mcclain: the Margie Clay: and Joann Mcclain: L_C_D_ Margie Clay: image. Joann Mcclain: options. Margie Clay: And you have in that uh the Joann Mcclain: Indeed. Margie Clay: indeed the remote control options. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: So we need two menus kind of thing. Joann Mcclain: Yeah you have basically a button menu, which you can use directly, uh Margie Clay: Uh-huh. Joann Mcclain: according to the old principle. And the L_C_D_ options are activated by some some software options, thats communicates with the infrared Mildred Cullison: Yeah Joann Mcclain: uh Mildred Cullison: with the chip Joann Mcclain: decoder Mildred Cullison: and Joann Mcclain: yeah. Mildred Cullison: then I mean Joann Mcclain: So you Mildred Cullison: Uh Joann Mcclain: You have an additional processor and Mildred Cullison: yeah. Joann Mcclain: and Mildred Cullison: Well Joann Mcclain: software part. Mildred Cullison: yeah we have Margie Clay: Alright. Joann Mcclain: Compared Mildred Cullison: power button, Joann Mcclain: to o Mildred Cullison: whether that's present. Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: Channel volume selection present. Uh numbers present. Yeah a audio Joann Mcclain: L_ Mildred Cullison: settings, Joann Mcclain: s Mildred Cullison: mono, stereo, pitch, bass, Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: treble. Screen settings, brightness and colour. Joann Mcclain: Colour. Yeah I Mildred Cullison: Yeah Joann Mcclain: I call Mildred Cullison: con Joann Mcclain: it Mildred Cullison: contrast Joann Mcclain: contrast. Mildred Cullison: is Joann Mcclain: Yeah I make it c colour. Mildred Cullison: Yeah okay, colour and brightness. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Um and what you say, channel settings or channel programming? So you you have an option to to start scanning all the frequencies, Joann Mcclain: Yeah and automatically Mildred Cullison: and when it encounters Joann Mcclain: um Mildred Cullison: one, well it shows on your T_V_. Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: And then you can um Uh and then you can select uh a number in your Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: remote Joann Mcclain: so Mildred Cullison: on Joann Mcclain: I've Mildred Cullison: which Joann Mcclain: g Mildred Cullison: you want Joann Mcclain: channel Mildred Cullison: to save Joann Mcclain: program Mildred Cullison: it. Joann Mcclain: is autoseek? Mildred Cullison: Yeah, autoseek. Joann Mcclain: Uh name a channel, or Mildred Cullison: Well most T_V_s automatically display the name, which they get through the cable. Joann Mcclain: Oh they get automatic names, Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: okay. Mildred Cullison: So you only have to choose the position on your It only has to match the the channel frequency on your T_V_, Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: with with the with the position on your T_V_ and and so your remote. Joann Mcclain: Yeah but Margie Clay: Help. Joann Mcclain: can you also say I want f uh Veronica on the channel number uh five or Mildred Cullison: If you already programmed it. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: If you want to move it. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah that should be possible too. Joann Mcclain: How do you call that? Mildred Cullison: Yeah how do you call that? Mm? Wait you you should be able to to browse through a list or something, which w displays all the all Joann Mcclain: Channels? Mildred Cullison: the values, all the channels Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: which are possible. I mean like one to Joann Mcclain: Ninety Mildred Cullison: f thirty Joann Mcclain: nine or something. Mildred Cullison: of or ninety Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: or whatever. Just browse through it and then um in some kind of way see if it if it if Joann Mcclain: S Mildred Cullison: it is programmed. Joann Mcclain: swap channels? Can Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: I call it that? Mildred Cullison: Swap channels. Joann Mcclain: Swap's good option. Okay. Uh Mildred Cullison: So Joann Mcclain: other Mildred Cullison: you Joann Mcclain: functions? Mildred Cullison: most of the time if you if you swap it S uh let's say for example you have uh R_T_L_ five on on channel five. And Veronica on channel eight and you want to move Veronica to channel five, um most of the times you override the previous uh the Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: previous one. Joann Mcclain: Okay. Well that's 's up to uh Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Mister User Interface Mildred Cullison: It's Joann Mcclain: Designer. Mildred Cullison: it's pretty Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Mildred Cullison: uh yeah I mean you have to look on on the menu Margie Clay: working Mildred Cullison: on Margie Clay: design. Mildred Cullison: the T_V_. Margie Clay: Doch. Joann Mcclain: Also. That's Margie Clay: He only Joann Mcclain: you're Margie Clay: has to figure out how it has to look. And how Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah but also, Margie Clay: to use Joann Mcclain: which buttons you have to press to get a certain result? And Margie Clay: Yeah okay. But Joann Mcclain: the working design was to specify how ph the physical interation between the components was, as I believe. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: You did your homework. But um yeah. Mildred Cullison: Or or is Margie Clay: Okay. Mildred Cullison: it too hard to to ju to just do it all on your remote? To programme the channels? Margie Clay: No Joann Mcclain: No Margie Clay: no. Joann Mcclain: I Kathleen Arnold: No Margie Clay: It should Joann Mcclain: don't Mildred Cullison: Uh. Kathleen Arnold: that's Margie Clay: be Joann Mcclain: think Margie Clay: able Joann Mcclain: so. Margie Clay: to do Joann Mcclain: But Margie Clay: any remote. Joann Mcclain: I think the communication with the television is difficult. But that's Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: not our part. Mildred Cullison: No. Joann Mcclain: We don't have to design a protocol so Margie Clay: No. Mildred Cullison: That's true. That's true. Margie Clay: Thank god. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Okay Mildred Cullison: So we have a figure a figure out a way to to do that easily. I mean th the autoseek is is not a problem. I mean Joann Mcclain: No Mildred Cullison: you uh you Joann Mcclain: that's Mildred Cullison: uh current Joann Mcclain: the Mildred Cullison: channel and then then it just says, uh on which number do you want to save this, and you just press a number on your remote, and then say confirm, okay, and then it's it's saved. It's easier, it's it's it's harder to, if you have already programmed it, Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: to to swap. So Joann Mcclain: So Mildred Cullison: we have Joann Mcclain: but Mildred Cullison: to think of something for Joann Mcclain: Um Mildred Cullison: that. Joann Mcclain: Kathleen Arnold can design a menu for all these function Mildred Cullison: Yeah Joann Mcclain: I put them on Mildred Cullison: k Joann Mcclain: the. Kathleen Arnold: On Mildred Cullison: kind Kathleen Arnold: the Mildred Cullison: of structure Kathleen Arnold: uh Mildred Cullison: into Kathleen Arnold: yeah can Mildred Cullison: layers. Kathleen Arnold: you i make a a map with with all the yeah 'cause it's now there are lots and lots of documents Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Yeah Kathleen Arnold: and Joann Mcclain: I can. I'll just try to reorganise uh things. Mildred Cullison: So Joann Mcclain: Um So you design the basic function menu for the L_C_D_ screen? Uh um Mildred Cullison: And and Joann Mcclain: I think Mildred Cullison: the layout of of the thing Joann Mcclain: th Kathleen Arnold: The Mildred Cullison: itself. Kathleen Arnold: the layout Joann Mcclain: I think Kathleen Arnold: of Joann Mcclain: the Kathleen Arnold: the Joann Mcclain: yeah Kathleen Arnold: remote Joann Mcclain: the layout Kathleen Arnold: control? Joann Mcclain: of the screen and I think you can concentrate more on the button placement and the placement of the uh screen itself on the. Kathleen Arnold: Isn't that more the the u uh the user interface Joann Mcclain: No I d Kathleen Arnold: part? Joann Mcclain: I think that's more in. Margie Clay: Uh all the functional uh aspects of the Mildred Cullison: Maybe Margie Clay: remote Mildred Cullison: more on Margie Clay: I think are in my department. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: I have to know what it has to do, so if you wanna you know the changing the channels kind of s thing is, I Joann Mcclain: Okay. Margie Clay: have to integrate Joann Mcclain: So Margie Clay: that Joann Mcclain: he's Margie Clay: in the Joann Mcclain: layout Margie Clay: design. Joann Mcclain: and you're function. Margie Clay: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Form function okay. Margie Clay: I think Mildred Cullison: Okay. Margie Clay: that's a that's a good Kathleen Arnold: But Margie Clay: separation. Kathleen Arnold: do I have to to uh to yeah to make the the menu layout also? Or Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: Mm. Kathleen Arnold: Are Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: you going to do that? Mildred Cullison: Yeah I guess Kathleen Arnold: Yeah? Mildred Cullison: so. Kathleen Arnold: I Joann Mcclain: I Kathleen Arnold: I'm Joann Mcclain: think Kathleen Arnold: going Joann Mcclain: i that's Kathleen Arnold: to make Joann Mcclain: your department Kathleen Arnold: yeah Joann Mcclain: yes, Kathleen Arnold: o okay. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: because Margie Clay: Yeah Joann Mcclain: w he Margie Clay: we have Joann Mcclain: already Margie Clay: to Joann Mcclain: knows Margie Clay: kind Joann Mcclain: what Margie Clay: of work together. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: If Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: if I make the the Joann Mcclain: But we're not allowed. Margie Clay: the yeah the menu like, I have to state which function has to be in the menu, and then you have to decide, it's, Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: in a in a way that b is user-friendly. Kathleen Arnold: Okay Y. you you are going to make a list of what functions are uh are going to to be on Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: the the screen, the Margie Clay: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: menu screen. And I'm going to make a a nice menu uh Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: with Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: I think yeah. Mildred Cullison: With with Kathleen Arnold: with pages Mildred Cullison: some l Kathleen Arnold: and Mildred Cullison: with some layers in it. So Kathleen Arnold: yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah and also Mildred Cullison: some menus. Joann Mcclain: make clear which buttons to press to get certain result, Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: because that's always the difficulty. Every device has its own Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Well I guess this this button, the the the okay, Joann Mcclain: Menu okay. Mildred Cullison: menu Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: okay. Or you can incorporate two uh difference uh different buttons. Uh like uh for your mobile phone. Um so this is only for to get in the menu, or to exit it. Joann Mcclain: Mm. Mildred Cullison: And then one to confirm, and one to go one step Joann Mcclain: Back. Mildred Cullison: back. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: So it's like the the save button on your your mobile phone, if you have a Nokia or like that. Or the or the no button. Margie Clay: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: To go one step back you it's only two extra buttons, Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. W Mildred Cullison: but if Kathleen Arnold: we Mildred Cullison: it if it's very clear that they are for the screen Kathleen Arnold: Uh I think we have to to group, to make two groups. Um the one group for the for the display, and one group for the basic functions, and Margie Clay: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Yeah but they're incorporated? Kathleen Arnold: Yeah okay Mildred Cullison: Yeah Kathleen Arnold: but Joann Mcclain: Up Mildred Cullison: because Kathleen Arnold: we Joann Mcclain: and down Kathleen Arnold: we Mildred Cullison: this Kathleen Arnold: have Joann Mcclain: is Kathleen Arnold: a Mildred Cullison: this Kathleen Arnold: m Mildred Cullison: is used for both. Kathleen Arnold: yeah but maybe that's that's not uh yeah if Joann Mcclain: Smart? Kathleen Arnold: you're if you're z zapping uh with your uh yeah remote control, you can press the the menu button, and then you are suddenly into the the Mildred Cullison: Into Kathleen Arnold: yeah the Mildred Cullison: your Kathleen Arnold: display. Mildred Cullison: screen. Okay. So you l should Margie Clay: You wanna Mildred Cullison: leave Margie Clay: separate Mildred Cullison: the menu Margie Clay: uh. Mildred Cullison: button out of here. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: And and just Joann Mcclain: Put Mildred Cullison: put Kathleen Arnold: Yeah Joann Mcclain: it Mildred Cullison: it Joann Mcclain: on Mildred Cullison: under Kathleen Arnold: j Joann Mcclain: top. Mildred Cullison: the screen, Kathleen Arnold: just Mildred Cullison: the screen Kathleen Arnold: just group group the yeah we make these the advanced functions and these the basic functions. Joann Mcclain: Mm-hmm. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: So we make a yeah a line between them. Mildred Cullison: But we should place the screen on top, right? Joann Mcclain: Well Kathleen Arnold: F oh yeah. Okay yeah we swap uh Joann Mcclain: But Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: that's Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: uh J Jurgen's department. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: So we Mildred Cullison: You Kathleen Arnold: make Mildred Cullison: just Kathleen Arnold: it a Mildred Cullison: you just find out Joann Mcclain: You just make the layout. Mildred Cullison: and. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: You do we do the extra two buttons or not? Kathleen Arnold: Uh Margie Clay: I think you should. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: It's easier. If you put too many functions in one button it gets confusing. Joann Mcclain: Yeah Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: okay. That's true. Kathleen Arnold: So we have a a menu button and a s Joann Mcclain: And to, okay and back, Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: also. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Okay and back Mildred Cullison: Yeah, Kathleen Arnold: button. Mildred Cullison: or confirm Joann Mcclain: And Mildred Cullison: and Joann Mcclain: of Mildred Cullison: back. Joann Mcclain: course the four Mildred Cullison: Whatever. Joann Mcclain: arrows. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: No. Joann Mcclain: But those are still y doubly used. Mildred Cullison: Should Joann Mcclain: Both Mildred Cullison: we save Joann Mcclain: the L_C_D_ Mildred Cullison: this picture, or or you know Kathleen Arnold: Yeah Mildred Cullison: what it looks Kathleen Arnold: I'm I'm Mildred Cullison: like? Kathleen Arnold: not s clear about uh the the extra two buttons. We have a menu button Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: and Mildred Cullison: That that just to Kathleen Arnold: That's Mildred Cullison: to activate Kathleen Arnold: the the one Mildred Cullison: the screen. Kathleen Arnold: with the yeah okay. Mildred Cullison: So Joann Mcclain: Menu button access the menu in the L_C_D_ screen. Mildred Cullison: And then with these buttons, Joann Mcclain: You can navigate. Mildred Cullison: woa, y you navigate. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: But you can also navigate the channels. And Kathleen Arnold: Okay Joann Mcclain: the volume. Kathleen Arnold: so that that's not uh Yeah Joann Mcclain: Those Kathleen Arnold: that Joann Mcclain: are Kathleen Arnold: Those are Joann Mcclain: both both Kathleen Arnold: multifunctional. Margie Clay: Hey Joann Mcclain: yeah. Margie Clay: is it interesting for users if we put LED lights under the buttons? So that if you uh press on the menu function that only the buttons that are Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: used for the menu are ligh Mildred Cullison: L Margie Clay: li Mildred Cullison: l Margie Clay: light Mildred Cullison: litten Margie Clay: up. Mildred Cullison: up yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: That's very Joann Mcclain: Oh Mildred Cullison: good idea. Joann Mcclain: five minutes. Margie Clay: N Mildred Cullison: Alright. Yeah that's Joann Mcclain: Light Mildred Cullison: a good idea Joann Mcclain: uh Mildred Cullison: because then it becomes clear which buttons are active now, which you can use. Margie Clay: Yeah and then it's also easier to integrate several functions in one button. Joann Mcclain: Yeah Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: sure. Okay. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Um Mildred Cullison: So Joann Mcclain: Anything else? Mildred Cullison: Those buttons are are Margie Clay: I think Mildred Cullison: lit Margie Clay: not. Mildred Cullison: up. But just one thing. Should we use those two? Them? Or only this to to scroll? And Joann Mcclain: I've Mildred Cullison: then use the two functional buttons to confirm, to go into something? Oh no we have to use this to adjust Joann Mcclain: Volume. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: Yeah Mildred Cullison: some Margie Clay: keep Mildred Cullison: some Margie Clay: it Mildred Cullison: bars? Margie Clay: optional 'cause maybe you can you know go left to right and up and down Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: in a in one menu. Mildred Cullison: And maybe we should use this also as an okay button, still. And then just only a back button. Joann Mcclain: Well we Kathleen Arnold: No Margie Clay: The Joann Mcclain: have Margie Clay: pr Joann Mcclain: those buttons. We Margie Clay: the Joann Mcclain: use Margie Clay: problem Joann Mcclain: all four. Margie Clay: with the okay button in the middle is, sorry Joann Mcclain: Yeah okay Mildred Cullison: Yeah? Joann Mcclain: go ahead. Margie Clay: sorry, uh is uh if you're pressing up and down, you can easily press the okay once you, when Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Margie Clay: you're not already at your Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Margie Clay: choice. Kathleen Arnold: So maybe make one uh one okay button Mildred Cullison: And Kathleen Arnold: and Mildred Cullison: one Joann Mcclain: Yeah Mildred Cullison: back. Kathleen Arnold: and Joann Mcclain: that was Kathleen Arnold: one Joann Mcclain: already Kathleen Arnold: navigation Joann Mcclain: decided. Kathleen Arnold: button. Yeah the with with the the channel and the volume uh yeah m a multifunctional navigation button. Joann Mcclain: Okay that's what we decided Kathleen Arnold: Yeah Joann Mcclain: earlier Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: on. Kathleen Arnold: okay. Joann Mcclain: Right okay. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: So Margie Clay: You wanna close down Joann Mcclain: yeah I wanna close Margie Clay: huh? Joann Mcclain: down. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: I have to, sorry. Margie Clay: That's Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: it's Margie Clay: okay. Joann Mcclain: not because I don't like you but yh we have lunch break, Margie Clay: Already. Joann Mcclain: and then we can work for thirty minutes, and I have to write very fast to make the minich min minutes. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: And then uh we'll see Margie Clay: Alright. How m how long is the lunchbreak? Joann Mcclain: I don't know. Mildred Cullison: We have to Joann Mcclain: Nobody Mildred Cullison: ask. Joann Mcclain: told Mildred Cullison. Margie Clay: Okay. Kathleen Arnold: But do we have to write uh to write down uh the our stuff now? Or first lunchbreak? Joann Mcclain: No I Kathleen Arnold: Because Joann Mcclain: th Kathleen Arnold: I Joann Mcclain: believe there's first lunch break. Kathleen Arnold: I've everything in my head now so Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Or you Margie Clay: Mm. Joann Mcclain: can just Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: Yeah? Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: 'Kay. Mildred Cullison: Yes. Kathleen Arnold: 'Kay. Joann Mcclain: I think Margie Clay: This is Joann Mcclain: you can put uh the laptop back in the room and Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Mildred Cullison: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: Yes sir. Mildred Cullison: Time pressure. Joann Mcclain: 'Kay. Yeah it's a lot of pressure. Margie Clay: Yeah. Sorry for my uh Joann Mcclain: That's Margie Clay: not Joann Mcclain: okay. Margie Clay: finished presentation uh. Joann Mcclain: Oh Kathleen Arnold: Oh Joann Mcclain: yeah. Kathleen Arnold: no Mildred Cullison: Yeah we'll kick your ass later. No. Kathleen Arnold: no. Margie Clay: Bring it on. Mildred Cullison: Uh. Joann Mcclain: I Mildred Cullison: Aye Joann Mcclain: don't know if it works but it Mildred Cullison: Y Joann Mcclain: should Mildred Cullison: you Joann Mcclain: be Mildred Cullison: saved Joann Mcclain: saved. Mildred Cullison: it? Does it save automatically in the project folder? Or Joann Mcclain: Yeah. It's uh Mildred Cullison: Okay. We'll see. Just Joann Mcclain: Should Mildred Cullison: put back Joann Mcclain: be Mildred Cullison: my Joann Mcclain: here. Mildred Cullison: laptop. Joann Mcclain: Smart board. Mildred Cullison: Alright. Joann Mcclain: Don't know if Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: you can use it but Mildred Cullison: Yeah you can open it with the picture Kathleen Arnold: And Mildred Cullison: preview Kathleen Arnold: uh we Mildred Cullison: or Kathleen Arnold: have Mildred Cullison: stuff Kathleen Arnold: to make Mildred Cullison: like that. Kathleen Arnold: uh some maps with uh with the all the the data we uh Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Kathleen Arnold: gathered. Joann Mcclain: I try to organise it by these three. Yeah yeah Kathleen Arnold: It's it's just my own map so Joann Mcclain: yeah. Kathleen Arnold: I put everything into the Joann Mcclain: I don't really mind. I just put the minutes here and we'll see. Kathleen Arnold: But you got some extra information uh Joann Mcclain: Yeah that's in the functional design uh folder. Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Yeah that's just basically what I just showed. Kathleen Arnold: But where do you did you get the newsflash? Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Yeah I got it by Kathleen Arnold: You're the only one Joann Mcclain: yeah. Kathleen Arnold: uh okay. Joann Mcclain: I'm Mildred Cullison: internet. Joann Mcclain: gonna get kicked if I don't do it so Kathleen Arnold: Okay. Margie Clay: Alright. Mildred Cullison: Alright. Kathleen Arnold: Yeah. Joann Mcclain: Make Mildred Cullison proud. Margie Clay: I'll try to. So first we have a lunchbreak now? Joann Mcclain: Yeah. Margie Clay: Alright. Joann Mcclain: I believe so. just ask. Margie Clay: Mm-hmm. I dunno where she.

Mildred Cullison reported on research which shows that users think most remotes are ugly, easily lost and bad for RSI. Audio settings are rarely used, and the power, channel and volume buttons are used most often. The remote should be user-friendly and have a good look and feel. Mildred Cullison and project manager described the new requirements that the target group is users under 40, the remote should not include teletext, should be only for TV, and should feature the corporate logo. Kathleen Arnold showed examples of two contrasting remotes, recommending that they should use the best features of both. The group decided to use an LCD screen and speech recognition. Margie Clay described how a remote works, and explained that his presentation was incomplete because he had not received the necessary information in time. The group discussed what functions to include and the layout of the remote, and Mildred Cullison drew a possible design on the board. They decided to have buttons for the basic functions and make the advanced functions accessible through the screen. They also discussed what buttons would be needed to navigate the menu on the LCD screen.

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Beth Thornton: I dunno. Throwing away my toothpick. Ruth Hunter: Hi there. Edith Chance: Yo. Ow. Beth Thornton: 'Kay. Edith Chance: Uh Beth Thornton: Nice user interface. Edith Chance: Yeah. What the Uh Yeah well, ja well let's just start. Beth Thornton: 'Kay. Edith Chance: I've uh made a presentation Beth Thornton: Right let's Edith Chance: uh Beth Thornton: see it. Edith Chance: but uh I'll open it on the Smartboard, so we can all see it. So it's in the project documents because that's what we can find here. Well. Very nice. Well this is called the the the kick-off meeting. So uh I'm Edith Chance, so I had to fill it in, Beth Thornton: 'Kay. Edith Chance: and uh hmm. Oh sorry. And an uh a nice agenda. Uh we'll do the opening and then uh we'll meet each other, what uh we already do, so, that's not uh very much trouble. I'll I'll show you the the tools we have here, so that we can all use them. Then uh we'll look at the project plan from uh Real Reaction. We'll discuss about our first ideas about the project, and then uh we'll close the meeting, and then we can uh individually uh do our things and then uh we'll get back here. So this the opening we'll uh We have to uh design a new television remote control. You have heard that uh already I think, so. Beth Thornton: Mm-hmm. Edith Chance: Um we want it to be original, so a nice uh a nice new design. Uh trendy, it's also for young people, and we have to just uh make it uh modern. And uh friendly, so size does matter. And uh Well it has to be a have the the right uh the right buttons on the right place, that kin Jenna Gaillard: Mm-hmm. Edith Chance: those kind of things. Other uh There happen to be uh three stages. functional, conceptual, and d detailed design. Um so every time we we'll do some individual work, get meeting, talk about it, uh and then go into the next phase. That's just it. Um We have uh these two Smartboards. Um well as I just showed, there's a project management folder, a project document folder on the desktop. It just works exactly the same as a computer. You just uh click on the on the folder and you open the everything you you put in it with your laptop. So you can uh make uh Words Excel, everything. Um and the w the r uh the rest uh also works the same so uh when you open a notepad you uh you just get your uh things, you can uh draw. This is a uh well a drawing board. you have a these different uh functions on the board. You can see them there. So you have a a nice pen, and it's works just like a bal ball pen. This is just a. I want to uh Oh yeah. Of course w doesn't work any more. Jenna Gaillard: Maybe you should try write on the on the big uh Does it? Yeah. Edith Chance: Yes I Jenna Gaillard: It Edith Chance: will Jenna Gaillard: works. Edith Chance: eraser so. It's Jenna Gaillard: Wonderful. Edith Chance: fantas fantastic. We can uh uh well you can save a file. So if uh we draw we have to save everything. Don't throw anything away. Jenna Gaillard: Mm-hmm. Edith Chance: Uh just we can start a new one, and we just go on, and don't throw anything away. Just uh let them all uh stand here. We can delete, but we don't do that. Um you can here select a pen, you can draw anything you want. It's a bit uh childish you have to write. It's not as fast as you w you know it, but it does work sometimes. Well it's just like a normal uh paint. So it's gone. Jenna Gaillard: Alright, yep. Edith Chance: Well we are designers, so we have to have a a more uh a Smartboard. So that's fantastic. Um well this uh speaks for itself. We going to try it. So um we all uh are going to uh draw a nice animal on this board, not my idea. Beth Thornton: Alright, your favourite animal? Edith Chance: Yes our your favourite. So um I'm to going to have to draw a kangaroo, but I'm going d I'm not going to. I'm just uh going to uh well draw a nice uh beast w I dunno Beth Thornton: Grizzly Edith Chance: what I'm going Beth Thornton: bear. Edith Chance: to design. Oh um doesn't Jenna Gaillard: I hope Edith Chance: oh. Jenna Gaillard: this was part of the Edith Chance: Yeah, Jenna Gaillard: assignment Edith Chance: 'kay. Jenna Gaillard: and not uh your uh Edith Chance: Hmm? Jenna Gaillard: I hope this was part of the assignment and not uh your personal uh enjoyment. Edith Chance: I just said it's Beth Thornton: Yeah. Edith Chance: not my idea but I am Edith Chance, and officially this is my idea. Jenna Gaillard: I I Edith Chance: So Jenna Gaillard: I I understand. Beth Thornton: We're kinda Jenna Gaillard: Alright. Beth Thornton: losing time, though. Edith Chance: what? Beth Thornton: We're losing time, Edith Chance: Ah Beth Thornton: but Jenna Gaillard: so start Edith Chance: the first the first meeting is just a bit uh loose, Beth Thornton: Alright. Edith Chance: loosen up, a bit uh meeting each other well uh uh Jenna Gaillard: Yep Edith Chance: nice yeah. Jenna Gaillard: yes. Edith Chance: Sh I hope our Industrial Designer does this better because uh this is Jenna Gaillard: Don't Edith Chance: uh Jenna Gaillard: count it Edith Chance: No so a a few Beth Thornton: Do Edith Chance: legs. Beth Thornton: we have to guess? A Edith Chance: Yes yes guess. Beth Thornton: hippo? Edith Chance: Well Jenna Gaillard: I Edith Chance: I should make it an hippo now. Beth Thornton: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: think it's a mouse or a rat. Edith Chance: No I don't think so. Jenna Gaillard: Oh. Oh I know it. Edith Chance: Well what is it, huh? Jenna Gaillard: It's Beth Thornton: I Jenna Gaillard: a Beth Thornton: don't Jenna Gaillard: hedgehog. Beth Thornton: know how to call it. Edith Chance: Yeah Beth Thornton: A hedgehog? Edith Chance: difficult English word. I didn't knew it myself. Jenna Gaillard: Well I'm amazed uh about your uh drawing skills. Edith Chance: Our characteristics sum it up. Well it's uh very uh painful those kind of thing. So we can uh just uh Jenna Gaillard: Yeah. Edith Chance: We're going back and now uh our Industrial Designer can Beth Thornton: Alright. Edith Chance: uh draw its Jenna Gaillard: I Edith Chance: uh Jenna Gaillard: am the Industrial Edith Chance: most Jenna Gaillard: Designer. Edith Chance: favourite animal. Huh. Jenna Gaillard: Chief, I am Jenna Gaillard. Edith Chance: Oh uh but this uh marketing designer. Jenna Gaillard: Yeah. I think It's pr it resembles the animal drawn by. Beth Thornton: It's. Edith Chance: what kind of animal is that then? Jenna Gaillard: I think can I say it? Beth Thornton: Yeah sure. It's a rabbit. Well Looks very nice, right? Edith Chance: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: It looks amazing. Edith Chance: No no no. What are you going to do? Ruth Hunter: We want to erase it. Edith Chance: No no. No no save it and start a new uh save it Beth Thornton: Yes. Jenna Gaillard: These are very Edith Chance: and start Jenna Gaillard: impor Edith Chance: a new black uh doc a Jenna Gaillard: These Edith Chance: blank Jenna Gaillard: are very Edith Chance: document. Jenna Gaillard: important documents, of course, uh these drawings, Edith Chance: Yeah well we have Jenna Gaillard: uh Beth Thornton: Yes Edith Chance: to save Beth Thornton: uh Edith Chance: everything so now Beth Thornton: right. Edith Chance: um the next one uh Beth Thornton: You go man. Edith Chance: and then save Ruth Hunter: Thanks. Edith Chance: it and start an blank document. Yeah. There's also different colours and different uh well pen widths uh the line the the thickness thickness. So Beth Thornton: Alright. Edith Chance: um well you should uh try it but uh Beth Thornton: I should have made mine a white rabbit. Edith Chance: Well y y y you could have but uh. Jenna Gaillard: And he deliberately Edith Chance: It Jenna Gaillard: draws Edith Chance: speaks for Jenna Gaillard: a Edith Chance: itself. Jenna Gaillard: animal we don't know the English word for. Edith Chance: What the Jenna Gaillard: It looks like an uh Edith Chance: uh just a duck. Jenna Gaillard: It looks like that beast from Sesame Street. Edith Chance: Nice. Jenna Gaillard: Yeah. Ruth Hunter: Big bird. Edith Chance: Is Beth Thornton: You're Edith Chance: it Beth Thornton: standing Edith Chance: a duck? Beth Thornton: in front Jenna Gaillard: It's Beth Thornton: of it, I Jenna Gaillard: it's Beth Thornton: can't see Jenna Gaillard: uh Edith Chance: Is it a plane? Beth Thornton: it. Alright, thank you. Yeah it's a bird, but what kind of bird? Edith Chance: It doesn't draw uh Jenna Gaillard: Do we have Edith Chance: circles Jenna Gaillard: to uh Edith Chance: uh that easy uh. Beth Thornton: You have to push harder. Edith Chance: Yeah Ruth Hunter: Mm. Edith Chance: just a bit a bit childish, a bit. Jenna Gaillard: But we have uh Beth Thornton: Release Jenna Gaillard: do Beth Thornton: your anger. Jenna Gaillard: we have to name the specific species of the bird? Ruth Hunter: Uh Jenna Gaillard: No? Ruth Hunter: no I don't. It's just a bird. Jenna Gaillard: Well Edith Chance: Well Jenna Gaillard: wonderful. Edith Chance: uh save the document and then uh And then a a new blank document for. uh will uh Ruth Hunter: Here Edith Chance: choose Ruth Hunter: you go. Edith Chance: a new colour and a new pen width so w Jenna Gaillard: Why Edith Chance: we can Jenna Gaillard: do Edith Chance: all Jenna Gaillard: I Edith Chance: see Jenna Gaillard: have to Edith Chance: it. Jenna Gaillard: do the difficult tasks? Uh Edith Chance: No well first Jenna Gaillard: pen Edith Chance: yeah. Jenna Gaillard: yeah that's. Edith Chance: And then you go to format I think, Jenna Gaillard: Uh current Edith Chance: and Jenna Gaillard: colour. Edith Chance: current colour you choose a new colour. And Jenna Gaillard: I Edith Chance: a Jenna Gaillard: like Edith Chance: new Jenna Gaillard: uh Ruth Hunter: Mm. Jenna Gaillard: oh they don't have pink. Oh b oh think this Edith Chance: pen Jenna Gaillard: is uh Edith Chance: width uh also format. It's not like in paint. Jenna Gaillard: Uh? Uh Edith Chance: Line width. And you can choose Jenna Gaillard: Line Edith Chance: a nice Jenna Gaillard: width. Edith Chance: one. Ruth Hunter: Width. Edith Chance: Width width. Jenna Gaillard: Uh Edith Chance: With each other. Jenna Gaillard: fifteen. And Ruth Hunter: Hmm. Jenna Gaillard: I can draw? Edith Chance: Yeah. So. Just Jenna Gaillard: Uh Edith Chance: a wa that's the way we do it's quite easy. Beth Thornton: Hmm. Edith Chance: Mm-hmm. Ruth Hunter: It's a pussy cat. Beth Thornton: It's a cat. Edith Chance: Oh Pussy. Jenna Gaillard: Oh the line width is too thick, but oh Edith Chance: Well Jenna Gaillard: well. Edith Chance: then you change it. And erase things. Jenna Gaillard: Uh. Edith Chance: What? Beth Thornton: It's a pig. Jenna Gaillard: It smiles nicely. Edith Chance: Super pig. Jenna Gaillard: Now I have to change the line width. Uh one. Edith Chance: So Jenna Gaillard: These are whiskers, you know. Edith Chance: Yeah yeah yeah Beth Thornton: Right. Edith Chance: we know. Jenna Gaillard: Uh well I think it's obvious right now. Edith Chance: Yes alright. It's a cat. Beth Thornton: No it looks great. Jenna Gaillard: Miaow. Well if this isn't obvious Edith Chance: Well well um Beth Thornton: Just save it. Edith Chance: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: I'll Edith Chance: save Jenna Gaillard: save Edith Chance: it Jenna Gaillard: it alright uh save. Edith Chance: and start a new blank document. Jenna Gaillard: Uh yeah uh blank. Edith Chance: Yep. So that's uh what we're going to use when we uh need it. Jenna Gaillard: Well Beth Thornton: Oh great. Jenna Gaillard: I feel comfortable Edith Chance: Well Jenna Gaillard: now. Thanks for Edith Chance: it's Jenna Gaillard: this Edith Chance: terrific, Jenna Gaillard: exercise. Edith Chance: eh? Beth Thornton: It's good Jenna Gaillard: I feel Beth Thornton: for group spirit. Jenna Gaillard: totally at ease. Edith Chance: Yeah Ruth Hunter: It Edith Chance: that's it. Ruth Hunter: certainly is. Edith Chance: We're one big happy family now. Jenna Gaillard: Yeah something like that. Edith Chance: Well then uh the serious uh stuff. We're we want to sell it at twenty five Euros internationally um so um but we dunno what exactly th i it is in dollars, but uh twenty five Euros. Our profit aim is, worldwide, fifty million Euros. Jenna Gaillard: So Edith Chance: So I didn't uh exactly uh calculate how much we have to sell. we want to keep it our costs at twelve and a half Euros so, keep uh that in mind when we uh talk about our uh materials an f and stuff, Beth Thornton: Right. Jenna Gaillard: Alright. Edith Chance: and uh marketing uh research. Now then we all uh we can uh sit down and discuss uh what do we think about our current remote controls, first about design uh about uh aim in the market etcetera? Beth Thornton: Right. Edith Chance: Well uh we c we can sit down uh because uh presentation can wait. We can uh take notes and uh Well who has uh some uh remarks about the current uh remote controls? Jenna Gaillard: Well Edith Chance: Please? Jenna Gaillard: I I didn't have to prepare anything about uh Edith Chance: No uh Jenna Gaillard: it's Edith Chance: I Jenna Gaillard: not, Edith Chance: did. Jenna Gaillard: it's it's not my task to uh talk about uh experience with current remote controls, but uh Edith Chance: Well uh just w we're uh four uh if Beth Thornton: I think Edith Chance: we if Beth Thornton: it's Edith Chance: we would Beth Thornton: im Edith Chance: just have one then Beth Thornton: it's important to uh look at uh the remote controls of our competitors. Edith Chance: Yeah. Beth Thornton: Get the good points uh try to merge them into one universal remote control. Edith Chance: Yeah yeah. Beth Thornton: On our corporate site I saw uh a new D_V_D_ player uh we're gonna produce. Edith Chance: Yep. Beth Thornton: Maybe it's important Edith Chance: That's alright. Beth Thornton: to make it compatible with the D_V_D_ player Edith Chance: That would be a nice idea, yes. Beth Thornton: so you can uh use your television and your D_V_D_ player with the same uh remote Edith Chance: Yep Beth Thornton: control. Edith Chance: yep yep. Beth Thornton: Furthermore it's important to make it uh acceptable for the whole world, for different cultures, maybe, because we want to we want to well fifty million? Edith Chance: Yes fifty Jenna Gaillard: Mm-hmm. Edith Chance: million is our aim to Beth Thornton: Yeah Edith Chance: a profit, Beth Thornton: yeah Edith Chance: so. Beth Thornton: so a lot of people have to be able to use it. Jenna Gaillard: No but Beth Thornton: So Jenna Gaillard: uh the Ruth Hunter: Easy Jenna Gaillard: b Ruth Hunter: to Jenna Gaillard: the Ruth Hunter: learn. Jenna Gaillard: buttons have to Beth Thornton: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: uh have to have uh international recognisable buttons and uh Beth Thornton: Yeah that's right. Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Edith Chance: Yes. Jenna Gaillard: and numbers and uh that every culture in uh, yeah, people in every Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: country can recognise. Edith Chance: I'll make uh notes and then uh maybe uh well I'll put it in the project uh folder when I'm done uh Beth Thornton: Mm-hmm. Edith Chance: just now. Jenna Gaillard: Alright. Ruth Hunter: I also Edith Chance: Well Ruth Hunter: think Beth Thornton: Right. Ruth Hunter: we should Edith Chance: yeah? Ruth Hunter: not add too many buttons. Modern Edith Chance: No Ruth Hunter: day uh remotes have Edith Chance: that's right. Y Ruth Hunter: too Edith Chance: y Ruth Hunter: much Edith Chance: you Ruth Hunter: buttons Edith Chance: don't use Ruth Hunter: I think. Edith Chance: uh the half of them that's that's Ruth Hunter: Precisely. Edith Chance: culture uh international. Beth Thornton: Maybe we could make one button to switch between D_V_D_ player and T_V_ Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Beth Thornton: and make the other buttons uh multi-functional or something. Ruth Hunter: Yeah Edith Chance: Yes. Jenna Gaillard: Yeah so Ruth Hunter: indeed. Jenna Gaillard: it doesn't uh become too complicated with too much buttons Beth Thornton: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: and Beth Thornton: right. Jenna Gaillard: uh Edith Chance: Yep, and maybe we do uh we even have uh more than just a D_V_D_ player. Don't we have uh other uh Ruth Hunter: Yeah Edith Chance: ou Ruth Hunter: we should make it compatible Jenna Gaillard: And stereo Edith Chance: Uh. Ruth Hunter: perhaps with everything Jenna Gaillard: uh s Ruth Hunter: we use, Jenna Gaillard: uh Edith Chance: We also Jenna Gaillard: audio Ruth Hunter: we Edith Chance: uh Ruth Hunter: uh Edith Chance: just Jenna Gaillard: installations. Ruth Hunter: we make? Edith Chance: uh released a T_F_T_ uh Beth Thornton: Yeah so Edith Chance: thing Beth Thornton: but Edith Chance: I saw. Beth Thornton: th that's kind kind of standard T_ television Edith Chance: Yeah. Beth Thornton: so Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Beth Thornton: it also works on that. Edith Chance: Yep. Ruth Hunter: And I think the people who who will buy our uh remote already have some experience with remotes. So we can keep Jenna Gaillard: Most Ruth Hunter: that in Jenna Gaillard: people Ruth Hunter: mind. Jenna Gaillard: do, yeah. Edith Chance: Well yeah. Jenna Gaillard: It doesn't it Edith Chance: It doesn't Jenna Gaillard: doesn't Edith Chance: have Jenna Gaillard: have to Edith Chance: to Jenna Gaillard: be Edith Chance: be, but Ruth Hunter: W Edith Chance: we can. Ruth Hunter: well it's a n it's a new remote and you don't buy a remote if you don't have anything to uh Edith Chance: Well Ruth Hunter: to control with it. Edith Chance: except Beth Thornton: Yeah but Edith Chance: if we deliver it together with Jenna Gaillard: Yeah. Edith Chance: our D_V_D_. Ruth Hunter: Yeah alright, Beth Thornton: We need to Ruth Hunter: but Beth Thornton: to keep it consistent with other d uh Edith Chance: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: Well. Edith Chance: because we look at competitors and w if we pick up the good things about that and give it a nice design Jenna Gaillard: Hmm. Beth Thornton: Yeah but it's Jenna Gaillard: It Beth Thornton: it Jenna Gaillard: has to be Beth Thornton: has Jenna Gaillard: different Beth Thornton: to be Jenna Gaillard: and Beth Thornton: useable. Jenna Gaillard: familiar at the same time. Edith Chance: Yes. Beth Thornton: Yeah. Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Yeah we could use Edith Chance: Yep. Ruth Hunter: another form or shape or colour, Jenna Gaillard: yeah Ruth Hunter: that Jenna Gaillard: the shape Ruth Hunter: kind of Jenna Gaillard: will Ruth Hunter: things. Jenna Gaillard: will have to be recognised. I thought about uh like most uh remote controls uh are uh a long box shaped thing Edith Chance: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: you can make it uh triangle shaped, but that's Ruth Hunter: Well Jenna Gaillard: not Ruth Hunter: we Jenna Gaillard: uh Ruth Hunter: we Jenna Gaillard: very Ruth Hunter: could Edith Chance: Oo Ruth Hunter: make Jenna Gaillard: recognisable. Ruth Hunter: more Beth Thornton: No. Ruth Hunter: more oval or something, and Jenna Gaillard: Oval? Ruth Hunter: and Edith Chance: N we can Jenna Gaillard: I Edith Chance: use Ruth Hunter: Yeah Edith Chance: uh Ruth Hunter: or Edith Chance: it Ruth Hunter: so Edith Chance: as a as a game pad. So Jenna Gaillard: Mm. Ruth Hunter: Well yeah it's new. Beth Thornton: Not with two hands. Edith Chance: one hand has the beer, so Beth Thornton: Yeah Edith Chance: the other Beth Thornton: yeah Edith Chance: hand Beth Thornton: yeah, right. Edith Chance: uh Beth Thornton: No Ruth Hunter: but young people want something different and it is Edith Chance: Well i Beth Thornton: Yeah but Edith Chance: we already Beth Thornton: it's Edith Chance: uh Beth Thornton: quite important Edith Chance: one of Beth Thornton: that Edith Chance: our Beth Thornton: it Edith Chance: aims Beth Thornton: fits. Edith Chance: is that it has to be original Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Edith Chance: and Beth Thornton: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: Oh Edith Chance: trendy Jenna Gaillard: but it ha it has to be Edith Chance: so Jenna Gaillard: m yeah. But you still have to know it's a remote and not another Ruth Hunter: Yeah Edith Chance: Well Ruth Hunter: alright. Edith Chance: there has been done a lot of researches about remotes uh we have to we can imagine uh because it's a long time uh on the market. So Jenna Gaillard: Yeah. Edith Chance: the the form will have been uh tested out so Jenna Gaillard: Yeah so the long box uh shaped thing must be uh, yeah, useful Edith Chance: Yes. Jenna Gaillard: or Edith Chance: Well Jenna Gaillard: else uh they would have been ano another Edith Chance: for Beth Thornton personally Jenna Gaillard: shape. Edith Chance: I have a a lot of remotes uh at home but those ones that have a a round ending and uh well uh just an uh square uh middle I don't like to use them. I have uh have to it has to fit my hands. Beth Thornton: Yeah. Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Edith Chance: When it falls over it and I just have and then the button Beth Thornton: It shouldn't Jenna Gaillard: Yeah. Beth Thornton: be Edith Chance: that Beth Thornton: boxy. Edith Chance: I use most Jenna Gaillard: Yeah a lo Edith Chance: has to be Jenna Gaillard: the Edith Chance: here. Jenna Gaillard: long box shape yeah. You have to Edith Chance: It f it fits Jenna Gaillard: use Beth Thornton: Nah Edith Chance: your hands Jenna Gaillard: one hand. Edith Chance: and then you just push the button that you use most Beth Thornton: I don't Edith Chance: with Beth Thornton: agree with the long box Edith Chance: thumb. Beth Thornton: uh shape it Jenna Gaillard: Why not? Beth Thornton: it has to be custom made for the hand. Ruth Hunter: Yeah it doesn't fit. Edith Chance: Tho Beth Thornton: Yeah. Edith Chance: tho those new D_V_D_ Jenna Gaillard: But Edith Chance: players Jenna Gaillard: it Edith Chance: on Jenna Gaillard: does Edith Chance: the Jenna Gaillard: fit Edith Chance: market Jenna Gaillard: in the hand if Edith Chance: do Jenna Gaillard: you hold Edith Chance: have Jenna Gaillard: it like Edith Chance: those. Jenna Gaillard: this, and you Beth Thornton: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: can Beth Thornton: but Jenna Gaillard: make Beth Thornton: if Jenna Gaillard: it another Beth Thornton: you shape Jenna Gaillard: shape, but Beth Thornton: it Jenna Gaillard: then you have Ruth Hunter: No if y Beth Thornton: If Ruth Hunter: if you look at new Phillips uh D_V_D_ with their uh remotes Edith Chance: D_V_D_ players. Yes. Ruth Hunter: pl players they they are the new remotes aren't box shaped. Jenna Gaillard: W Ruth Hunter: They're Jenna Gaillard: no Ruth Hunter: all Jenna Gaillard: w Beth Thornton: No Ruth Hunter: um Jenna Gaillard: what else? I di Beth Thornton: that's Ruth Hunter: Well Beth Thornton: ol old fashioned. Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: Yeah well Beth Thornton: I Jenna Gaillard: but Beth Thornton: can Jenna Gaillard: uh Beth Thornton: imagine Jenna Gaillard: what Ruth Hunter: Yes uh Jenna Gaillard: what Beth Thornton: that us Jenna Gaillard: what do you suggest then? Ruth Hunter: Well Beth Thornton: Well Ruth Hunter: most of of them are are somewhat thicker at the end, and Beth Thornton: Yeah right. Ruth Hunter: get um yeah thinner Beth Thornton: It Ruth Hunter: towards Beth Thornton: fits Ruth Hunter: the Beth Thornton: in your Ruth Hunter: uh Beth Thornton: palms. Ruth Hunter: the other end. Jenna Gaillard: Hmm. Ruth Hunter: Mm. Jenna Gaillard: Well but it's still then uh the the long box, uh but then with some Ruth Hunter: Yeah it Jenna Gaillard: uh round uh Beth Thornton: Hmm? Edith Chance: Well Jenna Gaillard: round Edith Chance: A Jenna Gaillard: forms Beth Thornton: Um. Jenna Gaillard: in it to fit Edith Chance: it Jenna Gaillard: your Edith Chance: h Jenna Gaillard: hand, Edith Chance: it has Jenna Gaillard: but it's Edith Chance: it it Jenna Gaillard: it's Edith Chance: has Jenna Gaillard: still Edith Chance: a that's tha th th shape that it fits your hand. Jenna Gaillard: Yeah yeah al alright but Edith Chance: That's Jenna Gaillard: but it's still it's still sort of box, yeah. It it has Ruth Hunter: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: round forms Ruth Hunter: yea Jenna Gaillard: but it in the end it's Beth Thornton: Well Jenna Gaillard: still the box, so that's what I mean. Beth Thornton: Yeah but it has it has to fit your hand. Jenna Gaillard: Yeah yeah I Beth Thornton: It Jenna Gaillard: understand, Beth Thornton: shouldn't Jenna Gaillard: but Beth Thornton: be too boxy, you know. Jenna Gaillard: no no Beth Thornton: It's Ruth Hunter: Hmm. Jenna Gaillard: I don't mean an entire box like completely Beth Thornton: No no no. Jenna Gaillard: square but a also with round edges of course, but Beth Thornton: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: in in in at the end it's still this long Beth Thornton: Yeah it should be Jenna Gaillard: box shape with convenient uh round uh shapes uh Beth Thornton: Right maybe Jenna Gaillard: to Beth Thornton: something Jenna Gaillard: fit. Beth Thornton: like this or Jenna Gaillard: Yeah Beth Thornton: and then Jenna Gaillard: yes Beth Thornton: a Jenna Gaillard: I Beth Thornton: button Jenna Gaillard: thought Beth Thornton: here Jenna Gaillard: about Beth Thornton: to Jenna Gaillard: something Beth Thornton: switch Jenna Gaillard: like Beth Thornton: between Jenna Gaillard: that. Beth Thornton: different systems like D_V_D_ Jenna Gaillard: Yeah. Beth Thornton: player and so you can Jenna Gaillard: A big Beth Thornton: I've Jenna Gaillard: recognisable button on top or something. Beth Thornton: Yeah right, and I do think we have to keep this kind of idea Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Beth Thornton: with the with the numbers and Edith Chance: We have five minutes left. So Jenna Gaillard: The Beth Thornton: Right. Jenna Gaillard: buttons should uh also be not too small, not too big, of course, and Edith Chance: Yes Jenna Gaillard: uh Edith Chance: uh that's Jenna Gaillard: n uh uh not too Edith Chance: yep. Jenna Gaillard: close Beth Thornton: But it Jenna Gaillard: uh Beth Thornton: should be Jenna Gaillard: together. Beth Thornton: possible to to um make it ap apparent that there are two functions for every button. Edith Chance: Yep. Beth Thornton: So Jenna Gaillard: Uh-huh. Beth Thornton: there has to be some space between the buttons. Jenna Gaillard: Yeah of course Beth Thornton: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: uh to uh to uh to have icons to explain the different Beth Thornton: Yeah right Jenna Gaillard: functions. Beth Thornton: right, Jenna Gaillard: Yeah. Beth Thornton: and maybe we should use colours. Jenna Gaillard: Colours, Ruth Hunter: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: yeah. Ruth Hunter: maybe we can um just like on cell phones those um well Beth Thornton: Yeah. Ruth Hunter: you can you can put on on them, Edith Chance: Ha. Ruth Hunter: and Beth Thornton: That's Ruth Hunter: so Beth Thornton: kinda Ruth Hunter: you can Beth Thornton: trendy. Ruth Hunter: customise your uh your own remote with different colours or or special Beth Thornton: Yeah right. Ruth Hunter: paint jobs I dunno Edith Chance: Sound Ruth Hunter: but Edith Chance: nice. Yes. Jenna Gaillard: I think we have to talk also about uh the the materials for um. Ruth Hunter: Well Edith Chance: Well it's just uh about our first ideas now so I think individually we'll have to uh come up with ideas for the next meeting about Beth Thornton: Right. Edith Chance: these materials Beth Thornton: But Edith Chance: and markets etcetera. Jenna Gaillard: Already Edith Chance: Yes? Beth Thornton: I think Jenna Gaillard: thought Beth Thornton: it's Jenna Gaillard: about Beth Thornton: uh Jenna Gaillard: something tha Beth Thornton: it's important to uh notate all the the decisions that Edith Chance: Yes. Beth Thornton: we make, so we Edith Chance: Well thirty minutes we have. Jenna Gaillard: Mm-hmm. Edith Chance: So um This is about uh what we are going to uh do uh. You'll get specific instructions when you're back in your Beth Thornton: Yeah. Edith Chance: room so uh it's uh logical uh. I think. Beth Thornton: No problem. Edith Chance: Oh and uh that's uh that's all. So we'll just get a notice that the the meeting is uh over. Jenna Gaillard: Yeah now we Edith Chance: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: can still talk about the material, Edith Chance: yes Jenna Gaillard: we Edith Chance: say. Ruth Hunter: Mm. Jenna Gaillard: have some some minutes left uh I w wrote down uh that the case should be plastic of course, hard plastic, Beth Thornton: Yeah. Yeah it shouldn't be too heavy. Jenna Gaillard: No n Edith Chance: Well Jenna Gaillard: n Edith Chance: I have had remotes that um they had uh the function of the buttons was about uh uh a layer over the buttons and when I've had use it much it was gone. Ruth Hunter: Yeah Beth Thornton: Yeah Ruth Hunter: that's Beth Thornton: yeah Edith Chance: So Ruth Hunter: bad, Edith Chance: it Beth Thornton: yeah. Edith Chance: has Ruth Hunter: yeah. Edith Chance: to be made in the buttons I think. It has to uh not Ruth Hunter: Yeah Edith Chance: be Ruth Hunter: that's Edith Chance: loose. Ruth Hunter: important. Jenna Gaillard: Mm. Alright. And of course there are several electrical cables in it to uh Edith Chance: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: to connect things uh Edith Chance: Is there an a Jenna Gaillard: to Edith Chance: universal Jenna Gaillard: each other. Edith Chance: uh universal way of um transmitting from the remote to the television so it's all about uh Beth Thornton: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: I Beth Thornton: it's Jenna Gaillard: think Beth Thornton: univ Jenna Gaillard: so. Beth Thornton: yeah Jenna Gaillard: It's Beth Thornton: yeah Jenna Gaillard: a Beth Thornton: yeah. Edith Chance: It's not that Jenna Gaillard: a Edith Chance: in Jenna Gaillard: common Edith Chance: China Jenna Gaillard: stan Edith Chance: it's Jenna Gaillard: standard Edith Chance: different? Jenna Gaillard: way Beth Thornton: Yep. Jenna Gaillard: infrared beams an infrared beam Edith Chance: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: I think. Edith Chance: But y you can have uh of Beth Thornton: And you can Edith Chance: course Beth Thornton: use Edith Chance: different between D_V_D_s and televisions Jenna Gaillard: It it's Edith Chance: and between Jenna Gaillard: a we we make an a universal remote Beth Thornton: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: so it ha has to work with uh all Edith Chance: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: kinds of brands Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: and Ruth Hunter: But Jenna Gaillard: things. Ruth Hunter: our T_V_s are mostly made in China and that sort of country, so Edith Chance: Probably yes. China rules. Jenna Gaillard: And have well yeah I've wrote something down about how it works. The user presses a button and with an infrared beam Beth Thornton: But Jenna Gaillard: it signals the television Beth Thornton: are Jenna Gaillard: set accordingly, but that's pretty obvious, I think. Beth Thornton: Are we going w uh with the front uh fronts uh idea? Edith Chance: Well I think uh w we can Beth Thornton: I Edith Chance: look Beth Thornton: think Edith Chance: into that in the Beth Thornton: we Edith Chance: in Beth Thornton: should Edith Chance: the next Beth Thornton: make Edith Chance: uh Beth Thornton: it universal Edith Chance: thirty minutes. Yeah. Beth Thornton: and you can always use a front front on it, you know? You can use it just plain Edith Chance: Yes. Beth Thornton: but you can Edith Chance: Well j Beth Thornton: To make it Edith Chance: just Beth Thornton: more trendy. Edith Chance: y you get a n a normal front with it, but you Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Edith Chance: can change them Beth Thornton: Right. Edith Chance: uh when Ruth Hunter: Yes. Edith Chance: you buy the Beth Thornton: Right. Ruth Hunter: Yes. Edith Chance: And we should uh dispatch those kind of fronts fronts Ruth Hunter: Mm. Edith Chance: a a around the world so Ruth Hunter: Well you Edith Chance: uh Ruth Hunter: can make Beth Thornton: Yeah. Ruth Hunter: profit with them, and it's a way to make them trendy. Edith Chance: Well th those fifty million don't uh don't se sells itself so we have to uh make uh some extra effort like fronts Jenna Gaillard: Well Edith Chance: uh. Beth Thornton: Yeah Ruth Hunter: Yeah Beth Thornton: right. Jenna Gaillard: but Ruth Hunter: alright. Jenna Gaillard: th but the standard front will be uh just grey or something Ruth Hunter: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: uh b a simple Edith Chance: Yes. Ruth Hunter: normal. Jenna Gaillard: colour not Edith Chance: Yeah Jenna Gaillard: not very flashy. Ruth Hunter: No Edith Chance: well it has Ruth Hunter: a colour Edith Chance: to Ruth Hunter: everyone Edith Chance: it h it Ruth Hunter: accepts. Edith Chance: has to fit the the te television and D_V_D_ set we are going to sell, so if they are Ruth Hunter: Mm. Edith Chance: uh black Jenna Gaillard: Pink television Edith Chance: and black Jenna Gaillard: sets Edith Chance: black Ruth Hunter: Mm. Edith Chance: and silver Jenna Gaillard: pink Edith Chance: we'll Jenna Gaillard: remote, Beth Thornton: Yeah Edith Chance: make them Beth Thornton: yeah Edith Chance: black Beth Thornton: yeah. Edith Chance: and silver Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Edith Chance: so. Ruth Hunter: standard. Beth Thornton: But people of often don't like bright colours or something. We have to make it grey or s or black. Ruth Hunter: Well young people Beth Thornton: Yeah but Ruth Hunter: s Beth Thornton: then Ruth Hunter: li Beth Thornton: you can use a a front. Ruth Hunter: Yeah yeah, yeah. Jenna Gaillard: Alright. Edith Chance: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: I must not forget my pen the next Edith Chance: Well if Jenna Gaillard: time. Edith Chance: if you yeah. If you have a a a television room for little children and you make a if if you buy a a pink front they'll they'll love it. Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Beth Thornton: Yeah Edith Chance: I Beth Thornton: that's Edith Chance: think. Beth Thornton: right. Yeah Edith Chance: But that's uh marketing Beth Thornton: or a t Edith Chance: uh research Beth Thornton: Teletubby Edith Chance: you Beth Thornton: front. Edith Chance: can uh you can ask Beth Thornton: Yeah Edith Chance: uh. Beth Thornton: yeah yeah. I will investigate. Edith Chance: Yes. Well our user interface you can uh maybe uh I don't know what your specific instructions will be, but uh probably about uh the precision of the buttons and and those kind of things and what buttons will have to be on the uh remote. And you will look into the technical design and um form, I think. Jenna Gaillard: Mm yeah Edith Chance: Or something Jenna Gaillard: also the Edith Chance: like Jenna Gaillard: the Edith Chance: that. Jenna Gaillard: look and feel uh of the Edith Chance: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: the remote's also my task, yeah. Edith Chance: Yeah. Beth Thornton: Right. Ruth Hunter: What's the uh url or the website Jenna Gaillard: Yeah Ruth Hunter: 'cause Jenna Gaillard: I uh Ruth Hunter: I didn't Jenna Gaillard: w was wondering that too. Y Edith Chance: Euro? Ruth Hunter: get Jenna Gaillard: you Beth Thornton: It's Jenna Gaillard: went to the company website. Edith Chance: Well Beth Thornton: Yeah yeah Edith Chance: it Beth Thornton: yeah Edith Chance: it Ruth Hunter: Yeah. Edith Chance: it's Beth Thornton: just if Edith Chance: if Beth Thornton: you start Edith Chance: you uh Beth Thornton: up your Internet Jenna Gaillard: It's Beth Thornton: Explorer Jenna Gaillard: the the Ruth Hunter: Oh Jenna Gaillard: the start Ruth Hunter: oh right Jenna Gaillard: uh starting Ruth Hunter: oh Jenna Gaillard: page Beth Thornton: Yeah. Jenna Gaillard: uh Ruth Hunter: well I didn't uh use it. Edith Chance: Finish meeting now. Oh alright. Well uh we're going to back uh Ruth Hunter: Yes. Edith Chance: back into our rooms so Beth Thornton: Well that's great. Ruth Hunter: Next meeting is in Edith Chance: In thirty Beth Thornton: Thirty Edith Chance: minutes, Beth Thornton: minutes. Ruth Hunter: Thirty Edith Chance: but uh Ruth Hunter: minutes. Edith Chance: I think it will be you will be warned uh through Ruth Hunter: Yeah Edith Chance: your laptop Ruth Hunter: alright it's Edith Chance: uh Ruth Hunter: it's handy to Edith Chance: to get Ruth Hunter: know Edith Chance: over here. I'll have to restore Jenna Gaillard: Very handy Edith Chance: my uh Jenna Gaillard: to know. Edith Chance: my desktop uh because Beth Thornton: It's Edith Chance: uh Beth Thornton: totally broken. Edith Chance: it's it's the half of the normal size. Jenna Gaillard: Right see you in half Edith Chance: Oh Ruth Hunter: Oh. Jenna Gaillard: an hour Edith Chance: right, Jenna Gaillard: then. Edith Chance: oh. Ruth Hunter: Goodbye. Jenna Gaillard: W Edith Chance: Ma Beth Thornton: Oh Ruth Hunter: S. Edith Chance: W that was a nice meeting. Jenna Gaillard: Right uh see you in thirty Edith Chance: Yeah, Jenna Gaillard: minutes then. Edith Chance: see you.

After introducing the remote control objective, Edith Chance demonstrated the SmartBoard technology they would be using. They tested it by drawing animals. Edith Chance informed the group of the budget, before beginning the discussion of current remotes and initial ideas. They considered taking the best of their competitors designs and making a multifunction remote. It needs to be useable internationally, with few buttons. The considered options for the shape of the remote control, imagining how it would fit in the hand. The group ended the discussion by touching very briefly on some materials issues, and discussed remote covers.

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Melissa Wiseman: Okay. So, now, last time Can you uh push the button? One time please. So I'm still the secretary. Now uh, I ask you to presentate the prototype. One of your you two. Judith Ross: I don't care. Gwendolyn Hunter: Oh this, you mean? Judith Ross: Huh? Melissa Wiseman: Yes. The prototype. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yes, uh this is it. Holly Taylor: This Melissa Wiseman: Well, Holly Taylor: is it. Melissa Wiseman: thank you. Uh, Gwendolyn Hunter: It's Melissa Wiseman: now Gwendolyn Hunter: uh it's uh it's yellow. And uh, this is rubber. And and and this too. The the sides. Melissa Wiseman: Yes. Gwendolyn Hunter: And the rest is hard plastic. And uh We uh we had some uh We had a new idea that that this can uh can be uh uh turned inside. And then it covers the these buttons Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Gwendolyn Hunter: until Holly Taylor: Yes. Gwendolyn Hunter: here or something. the mute and the the joystick. Melissa Wiseman: Mm-hmm. Gwendolyn Hunter: So, you can still operate uh all the things. Because you don't always use the menu. And then it can break. Melissa Wiseman: Okay. And the buttons? Gwendolyn Hunter: Uh, well uh Big buttons. And everything is blue, except the power button. And the mute. Of uh yeah, and the mute and the the other button. Yeah. Channel higher channel button. Holly Taylor: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: And the joystick is for the volume and the channels. Gwendolyn Hunter: Uh, yes. Judith Ross: Yes. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yes, that's uh Very obvious. Judith Ross: Up is channel up. Down is channel down. To the right is volume up. To the left is volume down. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: Okay, so if joystick and L_C_D_. What's the R_R_ d Judith Ross: The R_R_? Gwendolyn Hunter: R_R_'s the l the the the the company uh Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Gwendolyn Hunter: logo. Melissa Wiseman: Very good. So, Holly Taylor: That's Melissa Wiseman: we Holly Taylor: on the Melissa Wiseman: have Holly Taylor: rub rubber part. Gwendolyn Hunter: Uh, yes. Yes. That's about here. Melissa Wiseman: So, what they say on the side is put fashion there. Yes. It's good. Gwendolyn Hunter: Oh. Melissa Wiseman: So, Holly Taylor: Yeah? Melissa Wiseman: that's it. That's prototype. Now, the finance. We don't know if it's th Holly Taylor: Alright. Melissa Wiseman: it if it's okay. So, I'm Holly Taylor: Do we Melissa Wiseman: gonna look. Holly Taylor: Do Melissa Wiseman: We Holly Taylor: we change Melissa Wiseman: have Holly Taylor: the Melissa Wiseman: Sorry? Holly Taylor: Do we change the the order? Or are we going to uh Melissa Wiseman: Finance is um Holly Taylor: ev evaluate Melissa Wiseman: Yeah it's Holly Taylor: it first? Melissa Wiseman: No, first uh Yes. We have to evaluate the product Holly Taylor: Okay. Melissa Wiseman: yet. Sorry. Holly Taylor: That's uh um That can be none. Holly Taylor: Um, we gonna do the evaluation now, together. But I have uh a introduction how it works. So, it will come up. Uh-oh. Okay. Um, yeah. Well, we uh uh, I have um thinked a few evaluation uh criterias, uh based on um our marketing strategy, on uh the latest trends, on user preferences. Uh, we have a seven point scale from uh true, as well. To false, seven? And on base of each c uh criteria, we need to um give a rating. We can uh Well, it look like this. But we gonna uh do it here, they said. So, you hope found out how to do it with a Word document. Holly Taylor: Yeah. Holly Taylor: Okay, yeah. Yeah. Um, well uh we have the Word document Melissa Wiseman: Criteria. Holly Taylor: You So we open up that blank here. Um Think I can Uh, what this just an example. So, this not very important. But um, if I can get a number in here. Hmm. Melissa Wiseman: No, it's Holly Taylor: Well, Melissa Wiseman: okay. Holly Taylor: uh we can't Judith Ross: I'll Holly Taylor: do that. Judith Ross: get it. Melissa Wiseman: Oh, it's okay. Holly Taylor: Um, so uh you have to think of it as uh the remote control is techno technologically innovative. Uh, and then we have to uh agree on the rating together. And in the end, we will c uh count an average of all rating. The first uh on each item. Melissa Wiseman: What do you think? Holly Taylor: Yeah, I think it's uh Uh, well technologically using, it's not uh it doesn't contain many new features. Only the L_C_D_. So, it Um, I think I will give it a yeah, yeah, yeah, a four. Hmm. Judith Ross: I think the scroll-button is something also uh new. What uh not anoth uh, not a lot of uh a lot of uh remote controls have. I think technologically I'll give it an seven. Si six six. Sorry, Holly Taylor: So now Judith Ross: six. Holly Taylor: i Melissa Wiseman: Yeah. Holly Taylor: I think you uh see it um its statement. And you true Judith Ross: true Holly Taylor: or Judith Ross: or Holly Taylor: false. Judith Ross: false. Oh, uh Holly Taylor: And true Judith Ross: I'll Holly Taylor: is one. Judith Ross: I'll give it Holly Taylor: So, Judith Ross: uh a t Holly Taylor: yeah. Judith Ross: a two. Holly Taylor: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: Two. Judith Ross: Sorry. Melissa Wiseman: You? Gwendolyn Hunter: Three. Melissa Wiseman: Holly Taylor too. So it's a three. Holly Taylor: 'Kay. Um, well It's a one. The first item. So, okay the second item. Um, this product is for all sorts of customers. Gwendolyn Hunter: Mm Holly Taylor: Well, it's a statement which uh I disagree with, because we uh really aim uh at at young market and I think the way it looked uh c uh totally in yellow, it's not uh really aimed for all customers. It doesn't look like that. Melissa Wiseman: So it's a Holly Taylor: That's uh a six. Judith Ross: Five. Gwendolyn Hunter: Mm, four. Melissa Wiseman: Yes, it's for the younger g group. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah, Melissa Wiseman: So it's Gwendolyn Hunter: but Melissa Wiseman: uh Gwendolyn Hunter: it's Melissa Wiseman: half Gwendolyn Hunter: it's Melissa Wiseman: half of the people. So I think it's four. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah. I mean it still has l large buttons and not m many buttons. So Judith Ross: Mm-hmm. Melissa Wiseman: No. Gwendolyn Hunter: I mean, the colours are for young people, but Melissa Wiseman: Yes. So, I Gwendolyn Hunter: older Melissa Wiseman: think it's four. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah. Judith Ross: Maybe version uh three point O_ uh has other colours. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah. Maybe. Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Give it a four. Judith Ross: Four. Holly Taylor: Four. Melissa Wiseman: Yep. Holly Taylor: Uh, okay. Mm. Melissa Wiseman: We put the fashion in electronics. Holly Taylor: That's uh the motto of our company. Yeah, well do we do this with uh this product? I um Yeah. I think if we do this, as it's uh uh c uh it's really orientates on the design. Um, so I would give it a two. Judith Ross: Holly Taylor too a two, because only the battery is not uh techin uh technologically high standard. But the rest of it is. So, I think a two. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yes. Two. Holly Taylor: Two. Melissa Wiseman: Uh, I say uh a five. It's not fashion, it's new. It must be a fashion. But Judith Ross: It Melissa Wiseman: it isn't. Judith Ross: it will be fashion. Melissa Wiseman: Yes. It w If it's not a fashion we can put it in it. So, it must be a fashion. I think it's a five. Holly Taylor: Uh Okay. Gwendolyn Hunter: Then make it th Holly Taylor: Okay. Gwendolyn Hunter: three. Holly Taylor: Yes, I'll think of Melissa Wiseman: No. Holly Taylor: that too. Judith Ross: 'Kay. Melissa Wiseman: Oh. Judith Ross: Three Holly Taylor: Yeah, Judith Ross: is Holly Taylor: agree? Judith Ross: okay. Melissa Wiseman: I use my feet though. Judith Ross: Oh, we'll wait outside. Holly Taylor: A three. Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Holly Taylor: Yeah okay. The next element um is the product looks good. Well personally, I do not prefer a um remote control that's fully in yellow. So, I would give this a five. Judith Ross: I give it a one. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yes, a one. I like it. Melissa Wiseman: Well, I say three. So, counting then is two and a half. Holly Taylor: We have to do our uh Judith Ross: Say two. Holly Taylor: Two or three? Melissa Wiseman: Okay, two. Judith Ross: Two. Holly Taylor: Two. Okay. So, well we gonna do the next part. Uh, yep. Uh uh, the next statement. It has not too much buttons. Um, yeah, I I have uh said is not because uh a low number is better. And in the end we calculate an average. So, um that's why it's a negative in it. Um, well this one of our aims not have too much buttons. So, um uh did we uh do that? Well, uh if we go to uh this fashion, I We still have caused uh a lot of uh buttons for the numbers. But you can you can go for that. And um that way, you don't have a lot of buttons over. So, I would give this a two. Judith Ross: One. Melissa Wiseman: You? Gwendolyn Hunter: One. Melissa Wiseman: Holly Taylor too. One. Holly Taylor: One. Um, but where where is the? Melissa Wiseman: Next, six. It Holly Taylor: So Melissa Wiseman: does not get lost easily. Holly Taylor: Yeah, did we implement uh the sound? Judith Ross: Uh Gwendolyn Hunter: Yes. Judith Ross: Just a small thing. Melissa Wiseman: No, we did not. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah, but Melissa Wiseman: So, Gwendolyn Hunter: uh Melissa Wiseman: but can it get lost if it's such Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: a thing? Judith Ross: Ah. Melissa Wiseman: I don't think so. Judith Ross: Yellow. Looks like Melissa Wiseman: Yes. Judith Ross: a pistol. Melissa Wiseman: Not Judith Ross: Uh Melissa Wiseman: a not a normal shapes. So Judith Ross: It won't get between uh the Melissa Wiseman: No. Judith Ross: pillows uh on the couch. Melissa Wiseman: It Holly Taylor: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: won't get lost. So Judith Ross: Uh Holly Taylor: It won't. Melissa Wiseman: A one? Judith Ross: Yeah, Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah. Judith Ross: o one. Melissa Wiseman: Okay, a one. Holly Taylor: One. Melissa Wiseman: Next. Holly Taylor: Okay, um well we aimed for the younger market. Uh yeah, did we achieve that. I think with the way it looks and um it is designed, I will give it a two. Melissa Wiseman: Yeah Holly Taylor Judith Ross: Yeah. Holly Taylor too. Melissa Wiseman: That was our target. Two. Judith Ross: Two. Holly Taylor: Yeah. Judith Ross: Yeah? Melissa Wiseman: Yep. Judith Ross: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: Right. There's a fancy look-and-feel. Holly Taylor: Uh, yes. That that was uh, yeah, one of the most important things that uh Trendwatch said. I didn't uh say it in my presentation. But um, well does it have that? I would say yes. So um Well, let's also give this a two. T Judith Ross: I gave this a one because of the rubber. It feels soft. Uh, it looks like a l uh uh b uh, a bit like a joystick. It's Yeah. Yeah, f very fancy trendy. Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yes, a one. Melissa Wiseman: I say a two. It's a a bit personal. Holly Taylor: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: If it's fancy. So I think s two is better. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah, okay. Holly Taylor: Okay. Judith Ross: Two is Holly Taylor: Two. Judith Ross: okay. Holly Taylor: And um, then the last one I could think of, uh it goes with the latest trends. Melissa Wiseman: No, it's new. Innovation. Holly Taylor: If we looked at the latest trends for the uh younger people, and they ate uh fruit and vegetables, well it has a um a nice colour, uh well compared to food but we didn't uh We did not paint any uh fruit and vegetable on it for something like that. Judith Ross: Oh. Holly Taylor: So, I would did not give this uh a one or two. I We'll go for a three. Judith Ross: I go for two because uh the the shapes are still round. Uh, the latest trends are soft things, you know, like uh I said in my presentation. Holly Taylor: Yes. Judith Ross: Uh But the the colours are um basic, like yellow, red, um blue. Something what also younger people want. It's also a trend, so I'll give it a two. Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Gwendolyn Hunter: Mm, three. Melissa Wiseman: Holly Taylor too. Three. Holly Taylor: A three. Melissa Wiseman: Yeah. Holly Taylor: Okay. So um, come back to the presentation now. So, we find yourself there, and now we have to calculate an average rating. So, we Melissa Wiseman: Effort Holly Taylor: will do Melissa Wiseman: is Holly Taylor: that. Melissa Wiseman: three, ten Holly Taylor: Yes. Melissa Wiseman: and twelve. Thirty, forty, fifty, Twenty one. So, it's Holly Taylor: By nine. Melissa Wiseman: uh two and three nine two and one third. Judith Ross: Two. Holly Taylor: Yeah. Um, uh okay. Two. Melissa Wiseman: Yep. Holly Taylor: Come on. Melissa Wiseman: Uh, nah. Okay. Holly Taylor: So uh, that's a pretty low rating, I think. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yes. Melissa Wiseman: So, it's good. Holly Taylor: So, according to our uh own evaluation uh we did a good job. Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Thank you. Judith Ross: Yeah, I think. Holly Taylor: Oh. Nah. How am I doing? Yes. And Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Holly Taylor: I closed Melissa Wiseman: Back Holly Taylor: your Melissa Wiseman: to Holly Taylor: slide-show. Melissa Wiseman: my uh Holly Taylor: Which one was the last for you? Uh, dreaming. Melissa Wiseman: Yep. Melissa Wiseman: Next please. Holly Taylor: Next. Melissa Wiseman: So, now Holly Taylor: Finance. Melissa Wiseman: uh we have a product. Very happy. But uh, is it cheap enough? Um, so if uh I'll have a look. We have a battery. One battery. Gwendolyn Hunter: Mm-hmm. Judith Ross: Cheapest there is. Melissa Wiseman: Okay, one battery. Electronics. Advanced chip. Judith Ross: Expensive. Melissa Wiseman: Yeah it's the most advanced. Chip-on-print. We have that one. Judith Ross: Well, it's the most Melissa Wiseman: We have Judith Ross: advanced. Melissa Wiseman: the simple, regular and advanced. Judith Ross: Advanced. Melissa Wiseman: We have the adva advanced. 'Kay, so uncurved or flat. Nope. Single curved or double curved? We have double curved. Melissa Wiseman: So Then we have plastic, wood, rubber. we have half rubber, half plastic. Gwendolyn Hunter: Mm, yes. Melissa Wiseman: No titanium. Special colour. Yes, Holly Taylor: Yeah. Judith Ross: Uh, Melissa Wiseman: yellow. Judith Ross: yellow. Gwendolyn Hunter: Mm, yeah. Melissa Wiseman: Interface, push-button. Scroll-wheel, integrated scroll-wheel push push-button, or L_C_D_ display. So, we have the L_C_D_ We have two scroll-wheels? Or one? Judith Ross: One. Holly Taylor: One. Melissa Wiseman: And it's not really Judith Ross: Joystick Melissa Wiseman: a s Judith Ross: uh thing. Melissa Wiseman: Yeah, it's this one. Now, uh button supplement. Special colour. We already Uh, that's the from the for the buttons. The buttons are regular colour. Gwendolyn Hunter: Mm, yeah. Melissa Wiseman: So, then uh then then then then then then Then Judith Ross: We're not gonna make it. Melissa Wiseman: Uh, no. It's too expensive. Judith Ross: Yeah. Wh Melissa Wiseman: So, we Judith Ross: What Melissa Wiseman: have to change Judith Ross: what Melissa Wiseman: something. Judith Ross: are the costs? Melissa Wiseman: Fifteen Euros. Judith Ross: Fifteen. Melissa Wiseman: Yeah, well uh when we lose one scroll-wheel, it's okay. 'Cause we can't lose the battery. We can't lose the advanced chip. We can't lose the double curve. We have rubber, Holly Taylor: We would have Melissa Wiseman: special Holly Taylor: uh Melissa Wiseman: colour. Holly Taylor: n Judith Ross: A special colour. Uh, Melissa Wiseman: Oh, Judith Ross: I don't Melissa Wiseman: no, Judith Ross: think Melissa Wiseman: we Judith Ross: it's a very Melissa Wiseman: No, it's Judith Ross: special Melissa Wiseman: uh Judith Ross: colour. Melissa Wiseman: Sorry? Judith Ross: Yellow? Uh, is it a special colour? Holly Taylor: For a remote control. I've Judith Ross: What? Holly Taylor: For a remote control, I think it is. Judith Ross: Yeah. Holly Taylor: If we would have uh uh normal buttons instead of uh the joystick. For up Melissa Wiseman: Um, Holly Taylor: down left right. Melissa Wiseman: then we uh lose two Euros. Then we have thirteen Euros. Half a Euro too much. Exactly the special colours. Judith Ross: And Melissa Wiseman: So Judith Ross: what if we use only one sort of um Um just only plastic or only rubber? Melissa Wiseman: That's one Euro. Judith Ross: One Euro discount. Melissa Wiseman: So, I don't think that's good. Mm Melissa Wiseman: I think we have to keep the L_C_D_. If Judith Ross: If we change the joyst uh the joystick thing into a button up, button down, button right, button left. Melissa Wiseman: Yes. Then it's only thirteen Euros. Judith Ross: And then we'll lose fifty cent in what? Melissa Wiseman: So uh yeah. Yeah. Then you have Or Judith Ross: Uh Melissa Wiseman: you have to cut this Judith Ross: uh-uh. Melissa Wiseman: off. Then it's not good anymore. Judith Ross: No. Melissa Wiseman: So, wait. Okay. I'll have a look. We Judith Ross: And if you say it's just a r uh normal colour it's a normal colour, wh No one Melissa Wiseman: Yellow Judith Ross: will see it. Melissa Wiseman: rubber. Yeah, normal. Judith Ross: Normal colour, and the the joystick away, and put the button up, button down, right, left. Melissa Wiseman: Uh Judith Ross: And it's twelve Euros, I think. Melissa Wiseman: One minute, please. Uh Is it maximum. Um Melissa Wiseman: Yeah, it's normal colour. Melissa Wiseman: still uh an advanced chip? Judith Ross: No. Uh, Melissa Wiseman: Or Judith Ross: no, Melissa Wiseman: it's then Judith Ross: no, Melissa Wiseman: a Judith Ross: no. Melissa Wiseman: regular? Judith Ross: Uh Oh, wait wait wait. Holly Taylor: The advanced chip was for the L_C_D_ wasn't it? Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah. Judith Ross: Oh yeah. Melissa Wiseman: So, the advanced Judith Ross: Oh Melissa Wiseman: is for Judith Ross: yeah. Melissa Wiseman: the L_C_D_ and the regular for the Judith Ross: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: joystick. Judith Ross: Yeah, yeah. Melissa Wiseman: And what if we lose the L_C_D_? Judith Ross: If we lose the L_C_D_, then we have an uh Melissa Wiseman: Yeah, regular chip. Judith Ross: regular chip and Melissa Wiseman: But Judith Ross: no L_C_D_. Melissa Wiseman: Is it a good design? Judith Ross: Uh, yeah. Then you'll have to m uh see the menu on the television. And you don't have the L_C_D_. Holly Taylor: If uh Judith Ross: So, the T_V_s has to uh have to be up-to-date. Holly Taylor: If we have the n no buttons If we have we have uh not a joystick but buttons, we would have uh, we have thirteen Euros? Judith Ross: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: Mm, yes. Holly Taylor: And then uh we move the the colour. What Judith Ross: Yeah. Holly Taylor: will that be? Melissa Wiseman: Then it's okay. Judith Ross: Huh. No knew that. Holly Taylor: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: Okay, so no joystick. Oh no, but we then we get push-buttons from half a Euro. Judith Ross: Yeah, then it's twelve Euro fifty, then it's okay. Melissa Wiseman: Uh, yes, yes, yes, yes. No joystick. Push-buttons. No special colour. Twelve and a half Euros. Then it's okay. So, we have to change that a little bit. And you cannot use the red and green button. Because if you Gwendolyn Hunter: Okay. All the same Melissa Wiseman: give them Gwendolyn Hunter: uh Melissa Wiseman: a s uh colour, you have to pay point two Euros. Judith Ross: So, all the buttons has to have to be the same colour. Melissa Wiseman: Yes. Judith Ross: But then the print on it will g um change it. Make it uh for everybody to see what button it is. Uh l How Gwendolyn Hunter: Mm, yeah. Judith Ross: you call it? Gwendolyn Hunter: Recognisable. Judith Ross: Recognisable, Gwendolyn Hunter: Like Judith Ross: yeah. Gwendolyn Hunter: what Melissa Wiseman: Yes. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah. Mm, yeah. Melissa Wiseman: So Judith Ross: Yeah? Gwendolyn Hunter: Okay. Judith Ross: Okay. Melissa Wiseman: So Well Now we have to change that, but that's okay. Rubber. What's the normal colour? Judith Ross: Oh, well that's clear. Melissa Wiseman: So And Melissa Wiseman: Where's? Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: So, now Judith Ross: And Melissa Wiseman: it's Judith Ross: the joystick away. And its buttons. Melissa Wiseman: Yeah. It is. But then it will be just that ones. Judith Ross: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: Now it's Holly Taylor: still, he waited at the Melissa Wiseman: Very good. Holly Taylor: No. Melissa Wiseman: Now, uh project eva evaluation. Well What do you think of it? Uh Judith Ross: About the Holly Taylor: Project. Melissa Wiseman: About the project. Judith Ross: process. Went good. Uh I think uh the creativity uh was good enough. We have a gun instead of a remote control. Um Uh leadership. Yeah, you were the project project manager, and uh had the final vote. So yeah that was clear. Team-work okay. Everybody uh has something uh to say about it. And uh no, uh o only the the drawing uh was very difficult. But, nah. New ideas found. Nope. Melissa Wiseman: Okay. And you. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah, well the same. I I espe I especially uh liked the the means, the the SMARTboard and uh Yeah, it uh It brings up new ideas when you work with uh with it. Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Gwendolyn Hunter: Yeah. Holly Taylor: Yeah, I think you have to compare it to if you would have a normal um normal project without laptops uh and without these devices. I think um Well, the laptops if you have them out front of you, you sometimes looking at that instead of the presentation. Um, well uh the draw-board, well you can draw things. But it not really going very convenient. Gwendolyn Hunter: Mm-hmm. Holly Taylor: Uh, maybe it will be easier if you have a smaller monitor and uh you would also see there. And with a normal mouse. Um, and uh the project. Yeah, I agree on what was said uh mainly. Uh, yeah but you always have that some people are talking more than others. And maybe is then um the task of the Melissa Wiseman to also uh ask more to the people uh less talking. To tell their opinion. Melissa Wiseman: Okay. Well, what do I have to say. I think it was good. Not too many discussions. Judith Ross: No. Melissa Wiseman: So, Gwendolyn Hunter: No. Melissa Wiseman: it's good for the speed. Judith Ross: Yep. Melissa Wiseman: So, Holly Taylor: Yeah. Melissa Wiseman: I think we're ready. Good price. Evaluation ready. Ready. Judith Ross: Beer. Melissa Wiseman: That's it. Judith Ross: Yeah? Holly Taylor: Okay. Judith Ross: Okay then.

Judith Ross and user interface designer presented their prototype design, made of yellow rubber and hard plastic, with large, mostly blue buttons, a joystick and LCD screen. Led by Holly Taylor, the group evaluated the prototype on a scale of one to seven, based on a set of evaluation criteria. The overall rating was two. Melissa Wiseman calculated the production costs, which were too high at fifteen Euros. The group discussed how to make the design cheaper, and decided to keep the LCD screen, but to remove the special colour and replace the joystick with regular push-buttons. Finally Melissa Wiseman led an evaluation of the project process before closing the meeting. Overall, the group were satisfied with the creativity, teamwork and available equipment, although Holly Taylor thought the SMARTboard and laptops were sometimes distracting and not that helpful.

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Lily Conway: Welcome back. Ina Jones: Hello. Helen Reynolds: Hello. Lily Conway: Uh let Helen Reynolds see. Ina Jones: There's one of mine. Lily Conway: Okay Roo. welcome back. Ina Jones: Hello, Flores. Lily Conway: The waiting is for Sebastian. There he is. Ina Jones: We Ione Tyler: Is Ina Jones: have Ione Tyler: there Ina Jones: a slight Ione Tyler: any time Ina Jones: problem. Ione Tyler: for a cup of coffee? Ina Jones: I opened uh the Lily Conway: Sorry? Ina Jones: C_D_ ROM box Ione Tyler: Can I get Ina Jones: uh Ione Tyler: a Ina Jones: guys. Ione Tyler: cup of coffee? Lily Conway: Uh no. Ione Tyler: Okay. Lily Conway: You can't, sorry. Ina Jones: So just cancel it. Ione Tyler: Well, during my work I have no time either. So Lily Conway: Well, this is life. Sorry uh, Roo. Ina Jones: Yeah, I opened the C_D_ ROM box. Lily Conway: Okay. Ina Jones: Accidentally. Lily Conway: Okay. Ina Jones: But it's alright. Lily Conway: People, welcome back with the second meeting. Um for now on the schedule are a few points. Uh first of all the opening, which we are doing now. Um second, I received um some new project requirements. I'm not sure if you received them as well, um but I will tell you about it. Ina Jones: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: Um then um the three of you uh prepared a presentation, I think? Sebastian? Ione Tyler: I think so too. Lily Conway: Roo? Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: Ruud? Helen Reynolds: Almost. Lily Conway: Almost, okay. Then we'll do your one uh uh as la uh the last. Um the top Ina Jones: But you can't Lily Conway: goal of Ina Jones: upload Lily Conway: this m Ina Jones: your presentation from here, I believe. Lily Conway: Um we will figure that out. Ina Jones: Okay. Lily Conway: Ca Helen Reynolds: Uh Lily Conway: can Helen Reynolds: if Lily Conway: you try Helen Reynolds: it Lily Conway: to Helen Reynolds: if it wireless I could just uh Lily Conway: Yeah, Helen Reynolds: it in the. Lily Conway: w we will see. Ina Jones: I don't think it's wireless Lily Conway: Um Ina Jones: here. Ione Tyler: It is. Ina Jones: Or it is. Lily Conway: it Ione Tyler: It Lily Conway: is, Ione Tyler: is. Ina Jones: Yeah? Lily Conway: yeah. Ina Jones: Okay, Helen Reynolds: Uh okay. Ina Jones: great. Lily Conway: Yeah. Um the top goal of this meeting is to reach a decision on the product, on the target group um and and the functions of the remote control, so keep that in mind. Um we have forty minutes. So it's now Yep. Okay. Um the new project requirements, first of all, um we didn't speak about it, but we should not um support teletext in the remote, um because our b um board uh feels that uh teletext is out of date and internet is replacing teletext. So um we are not even going to try to um implement it in our product. It's a board decision. Um the remote control should only be used for television, because it's not uh f uh feasible, it's not uh Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: w uh uh we we cannot make it because of the time to market um that we have to deal Ina Jones: Time, Lily Conway: with. Ina Jones: yeah. Lily Conway: Uh the third requirement is that we should focus on customers that are younger than uh forty, which is important for you, uh Ruud, and as well for uh Roo. Because the product should um be uh interesting and and uh should be bought by people younger than forty. Um then for Roo, as well uh important, the corporate image should be recognisable in our product. So the colour colours and the slogan um do have to be uh in the product. Ina Jones: Yes. Lily Conway: Is that clear? Any questions on these requirements? No? Okay. Um the individual presentations, I th um Roo or Sebastian, who of you would like to start? Ina Jones: Yeah, I'll start Lily Conway: Uh uh Ione Tyler: Yes. Lily Conway: yeah. Okay, great. Ina Jones: Um Oh, how can I uh Geez, and sli and show. Um Just uh press it. Uh yes. Alright. Um well w we uh we had discussed this already in the fin in the previous uh discussion. Uh the method of the remote control is just the function of remote control is basically to send messages to the television set. So that was the main uh important thing Lily Conway: Yeah. Ina Jones: what a remote control should do. Then I found uh two different kind of remote controls, the multi-function uh remote control with many possibilities, but um the lack of the feeling I already mentioned uh in the previous uh discussion. Lily Conway: Mm-hmm. Ina Jones: And the ease-of-use remote control with uh the less p possibilities but a great feeling in in touching the buttons. Lily Conway: Yeah. Ina Jones: Um but um yeah. My personal preferences were ease of uh the easy to use remote control, because uh the user-friendliness and uh it can be more trendy in in user design. But um your new goal f was for uh people than less than forty years old. Lily Conway: Uh-huh. Ina Jones: So maybe um the multi-function can be implemented in uh in our design. But it should b I think it should be a combination, but teletext buttons are not uh in our design. So it should uh take out, well, eight buttons or so. But my in my opinion, the the easy to use R_C_ is uh the best uh possi possibility for us. Lily Conway: Okay. Uh Ruud, did you get that? Helen Reynolds: Yeah, Ina Jones: Yeah. Helen Reynolds: uh b uh most. Lily Conway: Okay, so the important thing here is Ina Jones: And it's also Helen Reynolds: Oh, Ina Jones: i Helen Reynolds: user-friendly. Ina Jones: indeed uh uh Ruud's uh insight in the in the topic. Lily Conway: In the market, Ina Jones: Yeah, Lily Conway: yeah. Ina Jones: what what does the market want? I I don't know. Lily Conway: Yeah, okay, w we Ina Jones: Just Lily Conway: will s Ina Jones: for uh Lily Conway: we all Ina Jones: for Lily Conway: uh Ina Jones: user desi uh user uh friendliness I uh should choose for the the ease of use remote control. Lily Conway: Yeah. Okay. Sebastian. Ione Tyler: Okay. Ione Tyler: Excuse Helen Reynolds. Ina Jones: Scusi. Ione Tyler: Um Okay, it's still the right thing. Okay. Um well, there are some changes in the design requirements, so there are some changes in the method also. Um basically all this device has to do is send messages to a T_V_ set. And the m most easy way to do this is by uh sending pulses of infrared light to a T_V_ set. Well, I th I tried to uh implement a picture here, but it's Ina Jones: Energies Ione Tyler: hardly readable. Ina Jones: and uh Ione Tyler: Can you see it? Lily Conway: No, it's Ione Tyler: No? Lily Conway: not visible. Ione Tyler: Well Um, there's a energy source here. And um basically there it's connected to three things. The user interface connected to a chip, which is connected to the sender, which generates messages using uh infrared light, which are sent to the receiver. That's basically the idea. And there's a little picture, just for your imagination, how a device like this should look or can look. Okay. Um what have I found. Usually these kind of things consist of a battery, infrared diode, buttons, chips, and circuit board. That's all. It's cased together, nothing more than that. It's almost every piece of equipment um every piece of uh every T_V_ set Ina Jones: Yeah. Ione Tyler: is controlled infrared. There are some exceptions, but most of all have uh infrared controls. And uh the more luxury uh remote controls have lithium buttons. And I think that's Ina Jones: The glow Ione Tyler: what Ina Jones: in Ione Tyler: we Ina Jones: the dark Ione Tyler: w Ina Jones: uh concept Ione Tyler: yes. Ina Jones: uh Ione Tyler: In the and it's Ina Jones: we discussed. Ione Tyler: a little more a little bit more fancy also. So maybe we should Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: consider that. Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: Okay. I have a basic scheme of the things uh which are implemented. Um basically this is all there is. There's just one chip. There are a few buttons connected. Uh the buttons are lit. And the whole thing is transmitted by a infrared li diode, and there is not a power source here. So that's basically the total design of this piece of equipment. There's nothing Lily Conway: So it's Ione Tyler: more Lily Conway: fairly Ione Tyler: to it. Lily Conway: easy. Ione Tyler: It's fairly easy. It's been done many times before, and Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: I think we should uh Ina Jones: Succeed Ione Tyler: we should Ina Jones: in it Ione Tyler: c s Ina Jones: also. Ione Tyler: succeed in in our plan to do this. Lily Conway: Okay, Ione Tyler: So Lily Conway: good. Ione Tyler: Okay, so uh personally I think we should infra use infrared, because uh otherwise our device cannot uh communicate with uh almost every T_V_ set. So I think that uh should be clear. Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: Uh another important point is uh we really should use uh energy uh sparse, friendly components. Uh there are specially uh designed um energy-friendly components which consume uh far less power than uh conventional components. And um if we want to use uh a rechargeable design or uh a energy-save design, we should really implement them. Um for cost-effectiveness, we should really use a very low-cost uh circuit board, um because most of the production cost are are in this uh part of the equipment. Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: And um the money we save on using this we can use uh for elaborate fancy lighting uh techniques, blinking LEDs and all that kind of fancy stuff. I think our uh users will really uh will really like that. Ina Jones: And what's the um if we use the LEDs, i does it use much more energy or Ione Tyler: No, they're p f uh power friendly LEDs also. Ina Jones: Okay. Ione Tyler: So we can use them. So that's no problem. Ina Jones: For the same costs, Ione Tyler: Uh Ina Jones: it's can Ione Tyler: no, Ina Jones: be Ione Tyler: they're Ina Jones: uh in Ione Tyler: uh Ina Jones: our Ione Tyler: they're a little bit more expensive, but by uh um um Ina Jones: Combined Ione Tyler: making Ina Jones: with the low-cost circuit board so it's Ione Tyler: We can Ina Jones: uh Ione Tyler: we can make its I think. Helen Reynolds: Well you could only lit uh the buttons the buttons that are used most. So, the channel switching. Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: Yeah. Helen Reynolds: Or Lily Conway: Yeah, but Ione Tyler: Okay. Lily Conway: but the question is whether um two or four buttons makes uh m makes Ina Jones: But I Lily Conway: such Ina Jones: think Lily Conway: a difference in the costs if you already plan to uh include fancy lightning techniques, Ione Tyler: Hmm. Lily Conway: I guess. Helen Reynolds: Hmm, Ina Jones: Yeah, I Helen Reynolds: true. Ina Jones: think it's the same as in the cell phone, just light in in the device that that shines on all the buttons, and Ione Tyler: Yes. Ina Jones: not for Ione Tyler: Well, it's not one light, it there are more lights in a in a in a Ina Jones: Yeah, but Ione Tyler: mobile Ina Jones: not for Ione Tyler: device. Ina Jones: each button Ione Tyler: No Ina Jones: one Ione Tyler: no no, Ina Jones: LED, I think. Ione Tyler: no. That's right, that's right. Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: So well, this uh should be it. Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: Um have a think about it. Lily Conway: Yeah. Okay, Helen Reynolds: Oh, Lily Conway: Ruud. Helen Reynolds: mine is already outdated. Lily Conway: Okay well, we ar we Helen Reynolds: Since Lily Conway: are Helen Reynolds: uh Lily Conway: very curio curious to what the market um will feel about such a product. So any income is welcome. Input. Helen Reynolds: Okay, make Well Uh then I'm sure the target market is uh ten million units. Ina Jones: Could Lily Conway: Okay. Ina Jones: you step a little bit more to the right? Yeah, Helen Reynolds: But um Ina Jones: thank you. Helen Reynolds: since uh the other part is uh forty percent of the market, I uh thought earlier we might want to constrain that portion of the market. But uh since uh the requirements changed, that's uh not a good idea. Uh well, skip this. Lily Conway: Yeah. Helen Reynolds: Well, it's this till true, of course. That they only use ten percent the buttons. The buttons to zap are used the about uh fifteen hundred times, when uh the power button is only used one time. And the volume button's only four times. So they're obv obviously uh the most important buttons. And uh lots of people complained they kin can't find their remote control. Ione Tyler: Mm. Helen Reynolds: So we might want to build in a feature to uh support them. Some uh audio signal. Like Lily Conway: Okay. Helen Reynolds: uh home phones. Or Lily Conway: Well, that's Ione Tyler: Or Lily Conway: interesting. Ione Tyler: a find a finding Ina Jones: Yeah. Ione Tyler: function, Lily Conway: Yeah, Ione Tyler: you know. That's Lily Conway: that's Ione Tyler: quite Lily Conway: definitely Ione Tyler: a Lily Conway: interesting. Ione Tyler: yes. Lily Conway: It uh Ina Jones: Sound Lily Conway: it separates Ina Jones: signal. Lily Conway: our product from others uh Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Lily Conway: as well. Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: Okay, Ione Tyler: Yes. Lily Conway: go on. Helen Reynolds: Well, I just said that. And uh well, this obvious, and he also said it. Lily Conway: Okay. So that's what the market tells us. Helen Reynolds: Uh that's about it, Lily Conway: Yep. Helen Reynolds: yes. Lily Conway: Okay. Ina Jones: The volume and uh the zap buttons are the mostly used. Helen Reynolds: Uh mo uh zap Ina Jones: So Helen Reynolds: buttons most. Volume, they are uh use a lot. But Ina Jones: Yeah, Helen Reynolds: more than Ina Jones: well Helen Reynolds: all Ina Jones: it Helen Reynolds: the Ina Jones: should Helen Reynolds: other buttons. Ina Jones: just Helen Reynolds: So Ina Jones: have a design The perfect design for those only those buttons. Ione Tyler: Yes. Ina Jones: And first um Ione Tyler: Yes, we should focus on that, I guess. Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: Yep. Ione Tyler: Well, the technical uh there I think there are no technical difficulties. There's no um elaborate technique uh used in this uh kind of equipment. So um I don't think we have any hiccups there. So we can fully concentrate on developing a product that is really um what the market needs. So maybe it's a good idea to think about these buttons and and Ina Jones: Yeah, Ione Tyler: uh Ina Jones: the sound signal. Ione Tyler: and a sound Ina Jones: Just one Ione Tyler: signal. Ina Jones: thing I'm just wondering, the sound signal, from where do you Helen Reynolds: Yeah, that's Ina Jones: execute Ione Tyler: Well Helen Reynolds: uh Ina Jones: th the s sound? Ione Tyler: Yes. Th Helen Reynolds: a problem. Ione Tyler: that's Ina Jones: Another Ione Tyler: a bit of Ina Jones: device Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Ina Jones: is not a Ione Tyler: that's Ina Jones: solution. Ione Tyler: a problem. Lily Conway: Well maybe Ione Tyler: Usually Ina Jones: It should be Lily Conway: maybe Ina Jones: uh uh Lily Conway: like clapping in your hands, like um Ione Tyler: Oh Lily Conway: turning Ione Tyler: yes. Lily Conway: on and off the the the Ina Jones: Yeah, Lily Conway: lights. Ina Jones: but maybe Ione Tyler: Yes. Ina Jones: you'll uh get Ione Tyler: Well, Ina Jones: some Ione Tyler: there Ina Jones: new Ione Tyler: there Ina Jones: technologies Ione Tyler: are some devices Ina Jones: for it. Ione Tyler: who uh incorporate this technique already. Um there are video sets and um they have a special button, the find the remote control button. You press it and your T_V_ set starts to make a uh kind of weird sound, and your uh remote controls then start Lily Conway: Reports Ione Tyler: to beep. Lily Conway: rep Ione Tyler: And Lily Conway: respend Ione Tyler: um Lily Conway: response Ina Jones: Yeah, just Lily Conway: to it. Ina Jones: like uh Ione Tyler: Yes. Yes, that's it. Ina Jones: the phones the Ione Tyler: Yes, Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Ione Tyler: same thing. Lily Conway: But Ina Jones: But but Lily Conway: uh Ina Jones: T_V_s Lily Conway: th Ina Jones: don't have all uh Ione Tyler: No, so we Ina Jones: uh buttons. Ione Tyler: we Helen Reynolds: And Ione Tyler: should Helen Reynolds: you Ione Tyler: use Ina Jones: Uh Ione Tyler: something else. Helen Reynolds: Yeah, Lily Conway: Yeah, Helen Reynolds: and usually Lily Conway: because Ina Jones: But I believe Lily Conway: we do not Ina Jones: you will Lily Conway: have a Ina Jones: have Lily Conway: a Ina Jones: an Lily Conway: a a a home um Ione Tyler: We do not control the T_V_ set so Helen Reynolds: And Ione Tyler: well. Helen Reynolds: even if the T_V_ set would have such a button, uh you would have to walk Ione Tyler: Yes, Helen Reynolds: to your T_V_, Ione Tyler: m yes. S Helen Reynolds: and it's Ione Tyler: so it's is easy as possible for our customers, Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: so Lily Conway: So Ione Tyler: we should Lily Conway: what Ione Tyler: think Lily Conway: about the Ione Tyler: about Lily Conway: clapping technique? Um because Ina Jones: I'm Lily Conway: you se Ina Jones: convinced uh Sebastian will uh find Ione Tyler: It's quite Ina Jones: uh one Ione Tyler: complicated. Ina Jones: solution for Ione Tyler: Well, Ina Jones: us. Ione Tyler: it's quite complicated. Because how can you separate the clapping sound from other sounds. Helen Reynolds: And Lily Conway: Well, you Helen Reynolds: b Lily Conway: see it a lot in in light uh lightning Ione Tyler: Yes, yes. Lily Conway: uh uh Ione Tyler: Well, basically the characteristics uh the characteristics of clapping is just an increase in the volume, Lily Conway: Yeah, a Ione Tyler: the amplitude Lily Conway: peak. Yeah. Ione Tyler: of the sound, which is uh generated a few times within a uh certain period of time. Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: But there are many other sounds uh which are exactly the same from Helen Reynolds: So Ione Tyler: the Helen Reynolds: if Ione Tyler: point of Helen Reynolds: if Ione Tyler: view Helen Reynolds: you'd Ione Tyler: from Helen Reynolds: be Ione Tyler: a remote Helen Reynolds: watching Ione Tyler: control. Helen Reynolds: a movie, it would constantly beep. Lily Conway: Yeah, Ione Tyler: Yes, Lily Conway: that's true. Ione Tyler: so we don't Ina Jones: But we Ione Tyler: want Ina Jones: can Ione Tyler: that. Ina Jones: have just uh uh Ione Tyler: Maybe we Ina Jones: a Ione Tyler: can Ina Jones: home stat uh f a base station next to the T_V_. Just a little antenna or uh something. Ione Tyler: Something like that. Ina Jones: Well Ione Tyler: Well, Ina Jones: if you lost Ione Tyler: is there Lily Conway: Well Ione Tyler: not Lily Conway: uh Ina Jones: th Ione Tyler: something f Ina Jones: I Ione Tyler: something Ina Jones: don't think Ione Tyler: more Ina Jones: people Ione Tyler: easily Ina Jones: would bother walking to the T_V_ and press that button Ione Tyler: Well, I don't think uh. Ina Jones: because they lost the their remote. Uh that's Ione Tyler: No, and Ina Jones: just Ione Tyler: y Ina Jones: uh Ione Tyler: the the most important thing for people is that there's a central point to which they can go Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: and uh b uh perform a a some kind of uh. And then uh the remote control uh reports itself, so w we should use have uh we should use something like that. You do not want another device, which can be uh everywhere in the house, which you have to find first before you can find your remote control. Ina Jones: just a base station next to the T_V_ Ione Tyler: Yes, Ina Jones: is Ione Tyler: something like that. Ina Jones: the best Ione Tyler: But that will be very Ina Jones: possibility. Ione Tyler: costly, I think. So Lily Conway: Yeah, m Ione Tyler: that's Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Lily Conway: maybe Ione Tyler: not a good idea. Lily Conway: um w we uh we do agree on on the thing that the remote should have such a function, if it's possible within the costs and all that kind of things. Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: Um maybe Sebastian should have uh a detailed look later Ione Tyler: I will. Lily Conway: on and um come up with a solution, Ina Jones: Yeah. Ione Tyler: Yes. Lily Conway: because that's his his field of expertise. Ione Tyler: Yes. But um before I do that I w I want to warn you that uh by implementing this kind of a function the technical design will become more complicated Lily Conway: Mm-hmm. Ione Tyler: um and it will become more costly also. Lily Conway: Yep. Ione Tyler: Because there will be additional components which which uh will be used. And there are some Ina Jones: And Ione Tyler: implepe Ina Jones: do we even Ione Tyler: imp Ina Jones: uh prefer the sound above the the LEDs, the lightning Ione Tyler: Well, Ina Jones: uh Ione Tyler: I I think Ina Jones: function? Ione Tyler: so, because um when you have a p newspaper Ina Jones: It's Ione Tyler: over Ina Jones: a unique Ione Tyler: your remote control, Ina Jones: item uh Ione Tyler: you cannot see it. So Lily Conway: Yeah, it's a distinction Ina Jones: It will be an Lily Conway: in Ina Jones: a Lily Conway: the market. Ina Jones: unique feature Lily Conway: It's a different Ina Jones: of Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Ina Jones: our Lily Conway: exactly. Ina Jones: remote control. Lily Conway: It's an uni an unique feature, Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: and um I think um it's worth um uh looking and and probably more i interesting than uh than the lights. Ina Jones: And just about uh the user interface, I came up with um an easy remote control and an advanced remote control. Lily Conway: Yeah. Ina Jones: What should we choose in in design? Lily Conway: Yeah. Well, um according to Ruud, um people do not use um Ina Jones: Well, the extra functions. Lily Conway: all the extra features very very often. So Helen Reynolds: I have the numbers r I have the numbers right here. Lily Conway: Okay. Helen Reynolds: Well, t uh we won't support teletext which which was the third-most Ina Jones: Used Helen Reynolds: the second-most Ina Jones: option. Helen Reynolds: used function. Lily Conway: Okay. Well, Ione Tyler: Okay. Lily Conway: we we do have a wise board, so I'm not questioning that. Helen Reynolds: Uh well yeah, channel selection is obviously the most important. Lily Conway: Yeah. Okay, so on Helen Reynolds: So Lily Conway: the relevance scale uh the channel selection, the volume selection and the teletext. Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Lily Conway: Well, we skip Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Lily Conway: that. Helen Reynolds: So Ina Jones: Well, Lily Conway: Okay. Ina Jones: so it just th the basic functions. And we don't have to use it for D_V_D_ players uh and all kind Ione Tyler: No, Ina Jones: of stuff. Lily Conway: No. Ina Jones: So Ione Tyler: no. Helen Reynolds: Nope. Ione Tyler: So that's out of the question. Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: So Ina Jones: Just through uh the easy uh design. Lily Conway: go Ina Jones: We Lily Conway: for Ina Jones: can Lily Conway: the Ina Jones: make Lily Conway: easier Ina Jones: uh Lily Conway: one. Ina Jones: a nice design Ione Tyler: I Ina Jones: when Ione Tyler: think also. Ina Jones: when there's not mu uh much Ione Tyler: Yes. Ina Jones: buttons in it. So Ione Tyler: Well, we Lily Conway: No. Ione Tyler: should save costs uh by not implementing a lot of functions and uh the money that we can save from that we should use for uh having a nice design and Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: uh thinking about the user interface and Lily Conway: Okay, Ruud, how do you feel about that? Uh do you agree, do you think the market would would respond to uh a simple Helen Reynolds: Uh well if we um include other uh innovative functions Lily Conway: Mm-hmm. Helen Reynolds: uh then they uh might, 'cause young people uh like new features. Lily Conway: Mm Helen Reynolds: So Lily Conway: yeah. Ione Tyler: Yeah, that's right. Lily Conway: Okay, Ione Tyler: Mm. Lily Conway: so this is is kind of uh Ina Jones: Uh just a few buttons, trendy design, nice lightning effects Ione Tyler: Okay. Ina Jones: wh and Ione Tyler: Well, Ina Jones: the Ione Tyler: is Ina Jones: sound. Ione Tyler: it maybe there's another possibility. You can make it look like an easy s piece of equipment, but it's quite elaborated, uh because it has many functions. Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: Maybe it's more important to make the make it look like a very uh friendly, easy to catch piece of equipment, but um Lily Conway: But but Ione Tyler: nevertheless Lily Conway: are we not in in the in the manual uh I mean if you have few buttons, no Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: display, Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: um I mean uh I guess it's l it's working with with a shift functions and um one button can Ione Tyler: Ok Lily Conway: uh Ione Tyler: like that. Well, I was more thinking about a more elaborate way of controlling, by by these kinds of sticks or something like that. I don't know if if it's user-friendly. That's your field of expertise. Ina Jones: Yeah, Lily Conway: But Ina Jones: I don't Lily Conway: but how Ina Jones: know Lily Conway: does Ina Jones: yet. Lily Conway: how does the remote uh report uh r uh give back to the user w in what state it is? Because we do not implement Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: uh a Ione Tyler: There's Lily Conway: user Ione Tyler: no, Lily Conway: history. Ione Tyler: but there's no way to do that, because we cannot implement that kind of the system. Lily Conway: I know, Ione Tyler: W Lily Conway: but but if we use uh like a stick, for example, Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: um Ione Tyler: Well, maybe we can use a light for that. When you move the stick to a to a position, maybe uh a light next to it can lit up. So you know I've just uh pushed the button, or I changed the channel or t uh turned up the volume. Something like that. Helen Reynolds: And if you use that stick for volume control and channel uh selection, you have the m two most important functions Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: Yes. Lily Conway: Uh Helen Reynolds: in one uh Lily Conway: and Helen Reynolds: button. Lily Conway: we could Ina Jones: But Lily Conway: have Ina Jones: does Lily Conway: other Ina Jones: it Lily Conway: buttons Ina Jones: uh Lily Conway: for Ina Jones: I Lily Conway: the Ina Jones: then Lily Conway: for the Ina Jones: should Lily Conway: advanced Ina Jones: n just Lily Conway: uh Ina Jones: use Lily Conway: functions. Ina Jones: uh i instead of the stick, uh like many cell phones, just a round m well, should we Lily Conway: Yeah, Ina Jones: just Lily Conway: draw Ina Jones: use Lily Conway: draw it Ina Jones: a Lily Conway: on the board. Ina Jones: oh, we have a blank. Oh. Ione Tyler: Oh yeah, something like that. It's Ina Jones: It's Ione Tyler: not Ina Jones: just Ione Tyler: really a Ina Jones: an Ione Tyler: stick, Ina Jones: easy Ione Tyler: but Ina Jones: uh way of of a round button what which can be pushed in Ione Tyler: Yes. Ina Jones: four directions. Ione Tyler: Yes. Ina Jones: Instead of a stick. A stick is v vulnerab vulnerable Ione Tyler: Hmm. Lily Conway: Yeah, Ina Jones: when Lily Conway: it Ina Jones: it's Lily Conway: can Ina Jones: falling Lily Conway: break down. Ina Jones: down or uh Ione Tyler: Yes, Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Ione Tyler: yes. Ina Jones: just a round uh button Ione Tyler: And Ina Jones: should be the trick, I think. Ione Tyler: Yes, and this also looks more fancy, I think. I think Ina Jones: Yeah. Ione Tyler: it it will attract uh more Helen Reynolds: A Ione Tyler: uh uh Helen Reynolds: younger Ione Tyler: public, Helen Reynolds: uh Ione Tyler: I think. Helen Reynolds: Huh. Ione Tyler: But you're the marketing man. Helen Reynolds: And it's also quite easy to use, so it'll it uh attract younger people because well new, and it might attract older people because it's easy to use. Ina Jones: Geez. Well, volume and something uh like that. Lily Conway: Uh-huh. Ina Jones: The programme up and down. Lily Conway: Okay, yeah. Ina Jones: And the vol yeah, the pen doesn't uh really does what I want. Ione Tyler: Okay, that's good. Lily Conway: Okay, but w we still we're still in the question of uh um uh putting in advanced options. Um Ruud just told us um the market is interested in some advanced uh new techniques. Um however, uh keeping it simple is is important for the costs and all all those kind of things. We need to find a balance between Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: uh the advanced techniques and and the user-friendliness. Ina Jones: But I think our our next step to look at is just that. So I don't think it's um we have something to do. Uh we can't discuss it right now, because n no one of us have has the information to discuss about that, Lily Conway: Um well, Ina Jones: I think. Lily Conway: for we do have to uh decide this this meeting. Ina Jones: Yes? Lily Conway: Yeah. We need to um have the uh the user function uh the functions Ina Jones: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: decided and um Ione Tyler: Okay. Lily Conway: uh our target audience. Ina Jones: 'Kay, Ione Tyler: Okay. Ina Jones: but teletext is so uh is just Ione Tyler: Do Ina Jones: scrapped. Ione Tyler: do you want a list of functions? Do you want an explicit list? Uh which uh incorporates all function available on the device? Lily Conway: Um well, I do not want a full uh it's not necessary to to have a full list, but I want um the kind of functions, for Ione Tyler: Okay. Lily Conway: example Ione Tyler: Okay. Lily Conway: uh th the most important are volume and uh programme selecting. Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Ina Jones: The ten digits. Lily Conway: Well, for example, that that's what we should think about. l how is the remote going to look? Ina Jones: Oh, Lily Conway: Not not in the user Ina Jones: and just Lily Conway: interface, Ina Jones: one function. Lily Conway: but Ina Jones: The the the the programme to programme button, the switch to uh two channels, Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Ina Jones: when you have uh something on channel Ione Tyler: Yes. Ina Jones: four and something on channel six, Lily Conway: Yeah. Ina Jones: just one button which which can uh Lily Conway: A Ione Tyler: Change. Lily Conway: bit of a split Ina Jones: change Lily Conway: mode. Uh l like Ina Jones: yeah. Ione Tyler: Yes, yes. Lily Conway: Yeah. Dual channel watch. Ione Tyler: Yes. Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: Okay, well um m maybe I should write that down. Ione Tyler: Well you're the secretary. Lily Conway: Uh Ruud, um what's your last name? Helen Reynolds: Mielsen. Lily Conway: Mielsen, because I I was writing it down in the last uh Mielsen. Right. Um I put all the minutes I make into the shared folder. So if you want to have a look at it, you know where to find Ione Tyler: Mm Lily Conway: it. Ione Tyler: okay, Ina Jones: Alright. Ione Tyler: but Lily Conway: Um Ione Tyler: make a s make a sub-folder for it, because it's starting to fill up already. Lily Conway: Yeah, that's Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Lily Conway: that's if you want to do it, Sebastian. Ione Tyler: Sure. Ina Jones: Our B_S_C_ uh W_ uh Lily Conway: Okay, um Okay, so so um uh Volume. Programme. Uh dual channel. Uh Ione Tyler: Yes, that's important. Lily Conway: And and do we want um Ina Jones: The Lily Conway: the Ina Jones: ten Lily Conway: ten Ina Jones: digits? Lily Conway: digits? Ina Jones: Yeah, Ione Tyler: Well, Ina Jones: I believe so. Ione Tyler: are are you sure? Helen Reynolds: Well, if you want to go Ione Tyler: I'm Helen Reynolds: to Ione Tyler: not so Helen Reynolds: channel Ione Tyler: sure. Helen Reynolds: ninety and you have th that button. Ina Jones: Yeah. Ione Tyler: Well, that's complicated, Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: but is that so relevant? Because I don't think but you should uh shou Ina Jones: I wouldn't Ione Tyler: you should know Ina Jones: buy Ione Tyler: that. Ina Jones: it personally. Ione Tyler: If it Ina Jones: A remote Ione Tyler: were so. Ina Jones: control without the ten digits. Ione Tyler: Okay, I can Ina Jones: Uh Ione Tyler: imagine Ina Jones: and I think Ione Tyler: when Ina Jones: the Lily Conway: I Ina Jones: most Lily Conway: agree actually. Ione Tyler: I can Ina Jones: Just Ione Tyler: imagine Ina Jones: elder Ione Tyler: when Ina Jones: elder Ione Tyler: you're when Ina Jones: people Ione Tyler: you Helen Reynolds: Well Ione Tyler: have a Ina Jones: would Ione Tyler: satellite Ina Jones: would buy Ione Tyler: decoder Ina Jones: it, but Ione Tyler: and and you have, well, about six hundred channels, I can imagine you want this. But if you're uh a regular T_V_ user, and you just want uh to watch the the Dutch television networks, well, you can uh you can use uh about ten buttons. Lily Conway: But Ione Tyler: That's enough. Lily Conway: we do Helen Reynolds: But Lily Conway: have Ina Jones: Yep. Lily Conway: thirteen different Dutch channels. Helen Reynolds: Yeah, Ina Jones: The older Helen Reynolds: and Ione Tyler: Well, Ina Jones: people Helen Reynolds: if Ione Tyler: but Ina Jones: only Ione Tyler: how Helen Reynolds: if Ina Jones: use Helen Reynolds: we Ione Tyler: how Ina Jones: five Ione Tyler: often Ina Jones: of them. Ione Tyler: do you watch Helen Reynolds: And if Ione Tyler: all Helen Reynolds: we are Ione Tyler: these channels? Helen Reynolds: targeting Lily Conway: Often. Helen Reynolds: at the younger audience, they will probably watch more channels than the older people. So Ione Tyler: No, you're probably right. Ina Jones: Yeah. Ione Tyler: Okay. But I think these uh ten uh buttons look a bit dull. Don't you think? Lily Conway: Well, it depends on the on the on the Ione Tyler: The Lily Conway: looks, Ione Tyler: design. Lily Conway: on the Ina Jones: On Lily Conway: on Ina Jones: the design. Lily Conway: the Ione Tyler: Okay. Well, y then there should be Helen Reynolds: Well Ione Tyler: should done be done Lily Conway: You Ione Tyler: something specific Lily Conway: c Helen Reynolds: And Ione Tyler: with Lily Conway: you Ione Tyler: it. Lily Conway: can d make them very fancy by um I mean Nokia, they have ten digits on their phones Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: and it still looks very fancy. Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: So I'm I'm I do not agree Uh Ione Tyler: Okay, so you can experiment by uh with with shape or with size or with colour, that Lily Conway: Exactly, Ione Tyler: kind of thing. Lily Conway: exactly. Ione Tyler: Okay. Helen Reynolds: And um there are some numbers about uh speech recognition here that uh younger people would like it. Uh it might be expensive and uh hard to implement, but it would be a solution uh Lily Conway: Okay, Helen Reynolds: for Lily Conway: speech. Ione Tyler: Well, maybe it can be combined with the find the remote control. Ina Jones: Yeah. Ione Tyler: So um when you add uh speech recognition to your remote control, uh it's very easy to change uh the channel. Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: That's one thing. And it's very easy uh Lily Conway: To Ione Tyler: to Lily Conway: find Ione Tyler: find your remote control. Lily Conway: yeah. Ione Tyler: So maybe that's a possibility, but I'm afraid it will be a bit costly. Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Ione Tyler: But Lily Conway: Uh Ione Tyler: maybe when we uh Lily Conway: If if we would um drop the ten digits Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Lily Conway: but keep the programme and the volume, because maybe Ione Tyler: Okay. Lily Conway: people do not always want to use their voice, Ione Tyler: Okay, okay. Lily Conway: um Helen Reynolds: Especially elder people uh don't like voice recognition. So then we should implement such a but Lily Conway: Yeah. But we do focus on younger people. We d Ione Tyler: Okay. Helen Reynolds: Yes. Lily Conway: it it's a board Ione Tyler: Well. Lily Conway: uh decision. Ione Tyler: I I think it should uh should work, it sh we should manage that. Ina Jones: So we have to i Lily Conway: Okay. Ina Jones: to make um a decision between the ten digits or the voice recognition. Ione Tyler: Yes. Well, the voice recognition has the main adva has another advantage. It's mas it makes it very easy for us to implement the find uh find the remote control button uh remote control Ina Jones: Mm-hmm. Ione Tyler: function. So Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: that's that's a big advantage, I think. Lily Conway: Okay, g good. Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: There's only one disadvantage uh by implementing this. Um the power saving power saving will be a bit more difficult. So we can expect that there will be a less longer life to the batteries. Lily Conway: Mm. Ione Tyler: But maybe can we we can think something smart about it. Lily Conway: Yep. Ione Tyler: There are some uh hybrid hybrid devices which incorporate a solar panel and rechargeable batteries. Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: So when you just Lily Conway: But Ione Tyler: leave the device in a in a light room, it charges itself. You have Lily Conway: But Ione Tyler: to do nothing Lily Conway: but can Ione Tyler: for Lily Conway: we Ione Tyler: it. Lily Conway: manage it Helen Reynolds: M Lily Conway: bu uh for the costs? Because it seems Ina Jones: Twelve Lily Conway: like Ina Jones: dollar Lily Conway: a very Ina Jones: fifty. Helen Reynolds: And uh if Ione Tyler: Maybe, Helen Reynolds: we Ione Tyler: maybe not. Helen Reynolds: if Ione Tyler: I'll Helen Reynolds: we Ione Tyler: have to Helen Reynolds: could Ione Tyler: find that Helen Reynolds: inc Ione Tyler: out. Helen Reynolds: uh include a c a cradle in which it could recharge, Ione Tyler: Yes. Helen Reynolds: then Ione Tyler: So Helen Reynolds: there wouldn't be uh a big problem. Ione Tyler: No, that's Helen Reynolds: 'Cause Ione Tyler: very Helen Reynolds: when Ione Tyler: cheap. Lily Conway: Is Ione Tyler: It's Lily Conway: a cradle very cheap? Ione Tyler: Oh, it's very cheap. That's no problem. It's just a a case with two uh metal contacts. Lily Conway: I know, Ione Tyler: It's Lily Conway: b uh but there should be an adapter as well. Ione Tyler: Yes, but they're they're Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Ione Tyler: mass production. They're very cheap. So Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: it will cost us p practically nothing. Lily Conway: Okay. We we have uh about ten minutes left this meeting. Um I would like to hear um maybe maybe you all have th uh things not um spoken about, yeah, but that are important. Uh Ruud, you you came up with the voice recognition uh data. Uh are there other things about the market we should know? Helen Reynolds: Um I think we dealt with the most important information. Just that the younger part of uh the market isn't the forty percent we uh want to sell to. So we we should uh for least a bit uh look at the uh older people. But with Lily Conway: Okay. Helen Reynolds: uh buttons like that, which are easy to use, we uh might attract them too. So Lily Conway: Okay. Helen Reynolds: I don't think that's a big problem Ione Tyler: Yeah. Lily Conway: Okay, so although we are focussing on younger people uh to make it uh profitable uh Helen Reynolds: Yes. Ione Tyler: Profitable. Helen Reynolds: Yeah, profitable. Lily Conway: Profitable. We we yeah, we still need to take in account the the bit older people. Helen Reynolds: Yes. Lily Conway: Okay. O okay. Um Roo. Ina Jones: I have nothing uh nothing to add, Lily Conway: Nothing to Ina Jones: I think. Lily Conway: add. Sebastian? Ione Tyler: Um I just want to make a summary of all all things Lily Conway: Yeah? Ione Tyler: uh spoken and uh Lily Conway: Great. Ione Tyler: the different possibilities. Um so uh basically we've decided to implement a seemingly uh easy design. So on the outside it looks easy, but uh we can make it easy on the inside or elaborate on the inside. So that's one the those are the choices we have to make. But I think there's a big advantage in making it more elaborate by uh implementing uh speech techniques, uh Lily Conway: Mm-hmm. Ione Tyler: voice recognition, that these kinds of things. Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: Um it makes it also more uh attractable, I think, to our uh audience. Um there are some advantages and some disadvantages, and the main advantage is that we can implement uh fancy techniques, which uh I think our customers will like. The disadvantage is that there are some concerns about uh the the costs and um the things like uh battery lifetime, energy saving. Lily Conway: Yep. Ione Tyler: Uh another advantage is that the circuit board will become much more easier if we do not do not implement these buttons. If we just add uh uh a chip which does the voice recognition, uh our circuit board will become even more cheap. So Lily Conway: Yeah, and that was Ione Tyler: that's another Lily Conway: the main issue, right? The Ione Tyler: well, it Lily Conway: the Ione Tyler: wa Lily Conway: board Ione Tyler: it w it was an issue, but we also thought that we already thought we should do it as cheaply as possible. Lily Conway: Yeah. Ione Tyler: And this even uh makes it more cheapy. So Ina Jones: But the cheaper the ch uh the the chip or th Ione Tyler: Mm-hmm. Ina Jones: what was Lily Conway: The Ina Jones: it? Lily Conway: board. Ina Jones: The Ione Tyler: The Ina Jones: circuit Ione Tyler: circuit Ina Jones: board. Ione Tyler: board. Ina Jones: The fewer buttons you can use Ione Tyler: The Lily Conway: No, Ione Tyler: fewer Ina Jones: on Lily Conway: it's Ina Jones: it. Lily Conway: th Ione Tyler: buttons you have, Lily Conway: yeah. Ione Tyler: the ch ch the cheaper Ina Jones: Yeah, Ione Tyler: the circuit Ina Jones: okay. Ione Tyler: board, Lily Conway: It's the other way around, Ione Tyler: yes. Lily Conway: yeah. Ina Jones: Yeah. Ione Tyler: And it's very cheap uh to incorporate uh uh an integrated circuit, a chip. So that's that's another Lily Conway: It shouldn't be Ione Tyler: advantage. Lily Conway: a big issue. Ina Jones: Well it then Ione Tyler: So Ina Jones: we should just uh take a look at the costs and Ione Tyler: Yes, Ina Jones: uh Ione Tyler: because I don't Ina Jones: especially Ione Tyler: know Ina Jones: for the voice recognition. Ione Tyler: Yes. I d I really don't know. So Ina Jones: No. Ione Tyler: It Lily Conway: Okay. Ione Tyler: can be costly. Maybe not. Lily Conway: I'm not sure how how we'll f uh determine the costs, I will have a look at it. Maybe you will Ione Tyler: Yes. Lily Conway: get some information on that. Um Ione Tyler: Yes, Lily Conway: I'm Ione Tyler: I Lily Conway: not Ione Tyler: al Lily Conway: sure how how Ione Tyler: I Lily Conway: that Ione Tyler: I hope my personal coach will uh Lily Conway: Yep. Ione Tyler: have a lo uh look at it. Lily Conway: Okay, great. Um well, I Ina Jones: We're Lily Conway: think Ina Jones: done, Lily Conway: we're Ina Jones: I think. Lily Conway: qui quite done. Um for now we will have the lunch break. Ione Tyler: How nice. Lily Conway: Um I'm don't know how long the break will be, but we'll find Ina Jones: Helen Reynolds Lily Conway: out. Ina Jones: neither. Lily Conway: Um then we will have thirty minutes of time to perform our individual work, uh and I'm sure your personal coaches will uh assist you with it. Um I will put the minutes I just made in the project documents folder. If you want to look at it um well, just do. Um the Interface Designer, um I would like to the next meeting I would like to receive the uh components concept. Uh Roo, um from you I would Ina Jones: Interface Lily Conway: like to Ina Jones: industrial. Lily Conway: see Uh I'm sorry, yeah, Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: I'm sorry. User Ione Tyler: Well, Lily Conway: Interface Ione Tyler: we understand. Lily Conway: Designer, uh Roo, I would like to see the user interface c uh concept. And um Ina Jones: Uh the only problem is it that it depends on the divisions the decis uh decisions Sebastian makes. Ione Tyler: Well Ina Jones: About the voice Lily Conway: Well, Ina Jones: recognition. Lily Conway: i it should Ina Jones: Well Lily Conway: be easy, that's w w what we concluded. It should Ione Tyler: Mm yes. Lily Conway: be an easy interface with not so much buttons. Ina Jones: Yeah. Lily Conway: S just a a p a p a volume and a programme one. And um um yeah, some some fancy lights. I think that's what we decided. Ione Tyler: So we drop the voice recognition? Lily Conway: No Ione Tyler: Or Lily Conway: no no, Ione Tyler: Oh. Lily Conway: we didn't but it shouldn't be integrated yeah, it's of course it's user interface, but um i I was talking about really the Ione Tyler: Okay. Lily Conway: design of the Ione Tyler: Well um do we really have to decide now or Lily Conway: No. Ione Tyler: can we decide next meeting? Lily Conway: We can decide the next meeting. Ione Tyler: Okay. Lily Conway: Yep. Ione Tyler: Because I'll have some updated info on that uh Lily Conway: Yeah. I guess all of you have i updated info. I'm sure Ina Jones: Yep. Lily Conway: Helen Reynolds will receive uh t uh you will do some trend watching. And I'm sure Helen Reynolds: Hmm. Lily Conway: the market will um uh uh will change, Ina Jones: Adapt. Ione Tyler: Adapt. Helen Reynolds: Left. Lily Conway: adapt Helen Reynolds: Hmm. Lily Conway: and um so we will see that. Um yeah, that's Ina Jones: That's Lily Conway: it for Ina Jones: it. Lily Conway: now. Ina Jones: 'Kay. Lily Conway: Any other questions or can we have the lunch? Ione Tyler: We can have the lunch. Helen Reynolds: Yeah. Lily Conway: Yeah, Ina Jones: I'll Lily Conway: okay. Ina Jones: take the lunch. Lily Conway: Good.

There are some new requirements for the project: the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, as it is dated, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. The target group will be people below 40. Ina Jones preferred an easy-to-use remote to a multi-function one. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. The use of infrared, energy-efficient power source and cheap circuit was suggested. The remote could light up via LED's placed inside. Functions like zapping are very prevalent, as well as complaints about remotes being easy to lose. It also transpires that customers like innovative technology like speech recognition. The design can focus on such customer needs, like finding a mechanism to locate a lost remote. The functions of the remote will include a back button to switch between two channels, volume, program selection, and speech recognition, with a focus on simplicity of design.

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Morgan Thomas: Okay, good morning. This is our first Carol Lin: Good Morgan Thomas: team. Carol Lin: day. Laura Geiger: Morning. Marianne Torres: Morning. Morgan Thomas: I'll be your Project Manager for today, for this project. My name is Mark will be giving this presentation for you to kick the project off. That's my uh that's the agenda for today. Well, of course we're new to each other, so I'd like to get acquainted first. So let's do that first, I mean Let's start with you, can you introduce yourself? You're our Marketing Expert. Laura Geiger: Yes. Um my name is Dirk Meinfeld. Um I will be uh Pr Project Laura Geiger. And I will see what the user wants and uh what we can do uh with the new produ project product. Morgan Thomas: Okay, excellent. And Carol Lin: Nick Morgan Thomas: User Carol Lin: Broer, Morgan Thomas: Interface Carol Lin: User Morgan Thomas: Yeah. Carol Lin: Interface Designer I'm. going to uh look at the technical design from the uh user point of view. Morgan Thomas: Excellent. Okay. Marianne Torres: My name is Xavier Juergens, I'm the Designer, and there are three main questions that I have to find an answer to today. First one is uh what happens inside the apparatus, second Laura Geiger: Hmm. Marianne Torres: is what is uh the apparatus made of, and the third is what should it look like. Morgan Thomas: What should it look like? Okay. Laura Geiger: Hmm. Morgan Thomas: Oh, let's kick it off. Oh, there we go. So, our new project is about we need design a remote control for television set, so, which has to be original, trendy and user-friendly. I took this off our corporate website. It's I think well it sums up what we need to do. We're inspired by latest fashion, not only electronics, but also the latest trends in clothes and interior design. That's why our product will always fit in your home. So apparently we need to um be very at um very open to what's currently hot in the market. So that's what you need Laura Geiger: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: to do to bring us the latest info and Laura Geiger: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: what people want. So So we put the fashion in electronics. So that's what we need to go for. Anyway, we'll take this project in three steps, three pha uh three phase of design. First step will be the functional design. Laura Geiger: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: And that's basically what we're gonna do. Everybody has uh a piece of individual work and a meeting afterwards, so we can share information about So I'm gonna keep this short, since we had a technical problem. So skip through this. Uh. Okay. Every meeting we everybody can present their uh their views and everything, so to help with these, you have we have the SMARTboards here. We can use a regular PowerPoint presentation. I'm supposed to give you an introduction on this doodling board, so it's actually it's very easy. Like it says, very simple, you just take out the pen. Like you see here, I'll just take the take here. That's it, you just put it on the board. You see a pen here. You go here, just like using a pen. You can just draw whatever you want. It's like the eraser, can erase whatever you want. And so it will be easy just to illustrate your views, if you wanna change the format, you just either take out jus just like the pen, and whatever you want, your current colour, your line width, just to make the line bigger. So it should be really easy. Laura Geiger: Okay. Morgan Thomas: This is to take the just take a new slide and back again. We're just gonna keep using this board all the time, so I think it will be it's very clear for everyone, I suppose. So I'll take this out. Okay. We'll use that later. Anyway. Yeah, just just just stuff that you wanna share, just put it in the in the project folder, like I put my presentation now. I'll put the the minutes of every meeting, I'll put them there too, so everybody can read up if they have to leave early or whatever. So next, been here. Well, gonna give the electronic white-board uh a shot. So basic idea is we have a blank sheet. Just try whatever you want, and like it says, draw your favourite animal. I think the creative genius should go first. Carol Lin: The creative genius? Thank you very much. Morgan Thomas: So, draw us your favourite animal. Carol Lin: Well, I'm more into the technical aspects of drawing, so I'm not really good Morgan Thomas: Draw Carol Lin: at Morgan Thomas: us Carol Lin: drawing Morgan Thomas: a technical Carol Lin: animals, Morgan Thomas: animal. Carol Lin: but uh the animal which I Oh. Morgan Thomas: Yeah, it's still erasing. Carol Lin: Pen. Uh format. Else my animal will be like king-size. I pretty much like a dolphin, because of its uh its freedom basically. A head. actually worked with this. It's like uh it's a very Uh high-tech. Bit low-responsive though. Prefer pen and paper. Morgan Thomas: So that's what we don't want. We want a high-responsive product. So It looks more Laura Geiger: Very Morgan Thomas: like nuclear Laura Geiger: nice Morgan Thomas: bomb. Laura Geiger: dolphin. Carol Lin: It doesn't look like a nuclear bomb. This thing isn't doing what I'm What I want. So Morgan Thomas: Let's go easy on it. Carol Lin: Yeah, well it does look like a nuclear bomb. I'll just finish up real soon, because I'm Carol Lin: So it doesn't really look like a dolphin, but then Morgan Thomas: Anyway, Carol Lin: again, Morgan Thomas: it should Carol Lin: this Morgan Thomas: It Carol Lin: is all new Morgan Thomas: It's Carol Lin: for Morgan Thomas: supposed Carol Lin: Laura Geiger. Morgan Thomas: to be a dolphin, you like the freedom that Marianne Torres: Uh-huh. Morgan Thomas: it that it represents. Carol Lin: Like the ocean, like swimming. Do that in my spare time, so that's basically an Morgan Thomas: What do you like? Okay. Well, Carol Lin: Now we can forget Morgan Thomas: our Carol Lin: this Morgan Thomas: Marketing Carol Lin: ever Morgan Thomas: Expert. Carol Lin: happened. Morgan Thomas: Show us an animal. Laura Geiger: Um an animal. I like Morgan Thomas: Pick Laura Geiger: the elephant. Morgan Thomas: a pick a pick a clean sheet. Oh. Laura Geiger: What? Morgan Thomas: Take a clean sheet Laura Geiger: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: first. Laura Geiger: Um Morgan Thomas: Just press next. That's Laura Geiger: Oh Morgan Thomas: it. Laura Geiger: yeah. Oh, a blank. Okay next, Free, I like the elephant. It's big, it's strong, so uh uh Oh, it's a little bit Carol Lin: It's not Laura Geiger: You Carol Lin: really Laura Geiger: have to Carol Lin: that Laura Geiger: hold Carol Lin: responsive, Laura Geiger: it, right? Carol Lin: no. Marianne Torres: Mm. Laura Geiger: Hmm. It's a beautiful animal. Laura Geiger: Oh, you have to p press it pretty hard. With a smile on it, it's very important. Morgan Thomas: It's a cute elephant. Laura Geiger: Yeah. Laura Geiger: And uh not to forget its tail. Oh. Morgan Thomas: It's a nice beard. Laura Geiger: Yeah, it's okay. Carol Lin: And you Laura Geiger: Yes. Carol Lin: was making comments on my dolphin. Laura Geiger: I will beat the dolphin. No. Morgan Thomas: Okay, so it's just a bee. Laura Geiger: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: So I suggest you make us the elephant in the market. The big and strong player in the market. Laura Geiger: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: This would be good. Laura Geiger: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: Okay, excellent. On to the next one. Marianne Torres: Okay. Laura Geiger: Uh yeah. Marianne Torres: Okay, you should press Laura Geiger: Yeah. Marianne Torres: next. Morgan Thomas: Press next. Yeah, it's up there. Marianne Torres: Okay. Morgan Thomas: That's it. Marianne Torres: Okay, well the animal I'd like to draw is a tiger. Carol Lin: You picked a hard one, didn't you? Laura Geiger: Experience with the tiger. What? They are Marianne Torres: They are really bad, my drawing Laura Geiger: Okay Marianne Torres: skills. Laura Geiger: uh-huh. Morgan Thomas: Sure looks smooth. Laura Geiger: Oh. Marianne Torres: I'm not sure how the legs should go, but Marianne Torres: Uh these are stripes. Carol Lin: Got it. Marianne Torres: I've picked this animal because it's very fast. It is uh it knows exactly what it wants. Uh it hardly ever wastes any resources. Morgan Thomas: What does it want? Marianne Torres: Uh well, basically uh it hunts for prey, but it does it always in a very well-thought way. Uh it knows exactly what it wants. It never kills an animal uh just for the killing, so it's very efficient. And it tries to do everything as fast as possible. Morgan Thomas: Okay. Marianne Torres: And it always goes for uh security, in seeking uh uh Laura Geiger: Mm. Marianne Torres: a hide spot and uh and doing everything, security, speed and efficiency is important. And I think uh those Morgan Thomas: I agree. Marianne Torres: things we can use. Laura Geiger: Okay. Morgan Thomas: Yay, I'm supposed to draw the animal next. I introduce to the world the amazing Morgan Thomas: ant. Laura Geiger: Uh hard worker. Morgan Thomas: Great team-workers. Laura Geiger: Yeah. Marianne Torres: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: Do everything to Uh really small, but together they're really strong. So I'm Laura Geiger: Yeah, yeah. Marianne Torres: Oh. Morgan Thomas: gonna give it a smiley face. Not sure where the p. Just put 'em here. Whatever. Think it need shoes. So Morgan Thomas: That's the coolest ant ever. Carol Lin: You've done this before, haven't you? Morgan Thomas: I love to draw ants. It's my hobby. Anyway Nah. Just I think it's very representative what we drew, I guess. Like you take Laura Geiger: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: just take your freedom and use a a trendy interface that you design for us. Just Yeah. You're supposed to make i make it different from uh from what other people have, and just make it a little distinct. Anyway. another beep to stop the meeting. See. Warning. Finish meeting now. Uh put this down. Examples. Well I guess we have a little little time extra, but Just a little quick discussion to to open open our work. So what do you guys think about The first idea is just very short. I'll start with you. What are y What are your first ideas for the new product? Carol Lin: Well, I basically Morgan Thomas: What Carol Lin: had a question. Do uh Are we going to introduce a multi remote control? Is it just the T_V_ or do we want to Laura Geiger: Uh Morgan Thomas: The project Carol Lin: in Morgan Thomas: I got was just for a T_V_ remote control. Carol Lin: Just for T_V_ Laura Geiger: Yeah. Carol Lin: remote Morgan Thomas: Yeah, Carol Lin: control. Morgan Thomas: I guess so. Carol Lin: Okay. Well, I was Laura Geiger: But Carol Lin: thinking about design remote control, with our uh motto and all. Uh thing to keep in mind is that we need to stick to what people are familiar with. Laura Geiger: Yeah. Carol Lin: No rational changes or whatever, 'cause Morgan Thomas: Okay, Carol Lin: it Morgan Thomas: so very Carol Lin: revolutionary Morgan Thomas: intuitive design, Carol Lin: changes, Morgan Thomas: I guess. Carol Lin: yes. Uh we might have to consider other design aspects of our product. So that was something I wanted to add, and perhaps some usability aspect. T_V_ is becoming central in most homes. Do we want people who are disabled in any way to uh, yeah, Morgan Thomas: Yeah, Carol Lin: to be able Morgan Thomas: we Carol Lin: to Morgan Thomas: want Carol Lin: use it as well? Morgan Thomas: I suppose we want almost everyone to be using it. So I think I mean, really disabled people, yeah, might be a problem, but I think it's a little take it into consideration. Um yeah. I think we really need to cut the meeting short. You have Marianne Torres: Hmm. Morgan Thomas: anything you Laura Geiger: Uh. Morgan Thomas: wanna share quickly? Marianne Torres: Only one thing uh that has to be added according to Laura Geiger is uh the the material it is made of, it should be something light. That's Carol Lin: Yeah. Marianne Torres: it speaks for itself, but Morgan Thomas: It Marianne Torres: some Morgan Thomas: should be Marianne Torres: uh Morgan Thomas: light, okay. Marianne Torres: Yeah. Laura Geiger: Yeah. Morgan Thomas: Um, let's see, where did I Let's skip that. Oh, this is it. Sorry, I skipped Laura Geiger: Selling Morgan Thomas: this sheet. Laura Geiger: price. Morgan Thomas: What do we This Quick What we're going to Selling price, twenty five Euros. That's for you. The production price, twelve and a Marianne Torres: Okay. Morgan Thomas: half Euros, approximately. Just go go for that. We'll Marianne Torres: Okay. Morgan Thomas: reach the uh reach that profit. Carol Lin: Okay, well that's not that much Laura Geiger: international. Carol Lin: to work with. Morgan Thomas: No, it's not much to work on. I'm sorry, I skipped it. Anyways, that's Yeah, this is it. Do you have anything you you came up with yet? About uh marketing transfer, whatever? Laura Geiger: Um about what? Marketing? Morgan Thomas: Marketing I'm not sure what you what you came up with yet. You have anything to share? Or else we'll cut the meeting just cut the Laura Geiger: Um Morgan Thomas: meeting short since we're supposed Laura Geiger: no, Morgan Thomas: to stop. Laura Geiger: not really yet, but Morgan Thomas: Okay. Laura Geiger: I've some ideas and I will uh Morgan Thomas: Anyways, Laura Geiger: say Morgan Thomas: the Laura Geiger: it Morgan Thomas: the Laura Geiger: uh Morgan Thomas: personal coach will give you the your p your personal assignments and everything. So we'll just meet back in here thirty minutes. Marianne Torres: Okay. Laura Geiger: Okay. Morgan Thomas: I'm sure we have that. Marianne Torres: Good luck everyone. Morgan Thomas: Yeah, thanks for attending. Carol Lin: Mm, good luck. Morgan Thomas: I'll see you back here in thirty minutes. Laura Geiger: Okay. Laura Geiger: Yes.

The goal of the project is to design an original, trendy and user-friendly remote control for TV. The team comprises Morgan Thomas, Laura Geiger, who is looking at user needs, Carol Lin, looking at usability, and Marianne Torres, working on the engineering and materials. The project will be completed with three further meetings: the following meeting concerns the functional design. Morgan Thomas gave a quick overview of the equipment available. The remote needs to be produced for 12.50 euros in order to be sold for double that amount. The whole team tried out the SMARTboard, by drawing their favourite animals. Afterwards, they discussed briefly their first ideas, including the use of light materials and usability concerns.

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Elmer Flores: Help. It's up there? That screen's black. Elmer Flores: Alright, okay. Okay, that's fine. Gerardo Ramirez: Oh God. Elmer Flores: Are we done? Elmer Flores: Right, okay um, this is our second meeting and I might be a bit all over the place. Um, right our agenda for today, do you want us to give you a second? Gerardo Ramirez: Uh, no that's okay, sorry. Elmer Flores: Okay, um I'll go over what we decided last meeting, Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: um, we decided upon a universal control, one handset for all, T_V_, video equipment. Darin Jamerson: Sorry. Elmer Flores: Um that important that the product was accessible to a wide range of consumers, wide age range, not limiting anyone. We decided it was important to reflect the company's image in our product, we put fashion in electronics, you know that kind of s thing. Um, our budget would have to affect um try not to reflect our budget, um that we might have a bit of oh oh you can see it, okay. Um dissonance between what our budget was and what we want it to look like. Um want it to look uncluttered, undaunting to the customer. We discussed a flip-open design, um reducing the size of the control and an electronic panel um for further features like programming, things like that. Okay. Um, three presentations, I've got written here so shall we hear from Marketing first? Gerardo Ramirez: Um is it okay if I postpone that til later, I just want to get access to a little bit more information, Elmer Flores: No Gerardo Ramirez: is that Elmer Flores: that's Gerardo Ramirez: okay? Elmer Flores: fine, that's fine. David Schaefer: Okay, yeah I'll go first Can. I grab the Elmer Flores: Unplug Gerardo Ramirez. David Schaefer: Thanks. David Schaefer: What do I have to press? Oh, F_ eight? Elmer Flores: Um, F_N_ function F_ David Schaefer: Oh Elmer Flores: eight. David Schaefer: right, yeah. Okay. Maybe Darin Jamerson: Yep. David Schaefer: Yep there we go. Okay this is uh the working design, presented by Gerardo Ramirez, the uh Industrial Designer extraordinaire. 'Kay, this is where I went a bit mad with PowerPoint so. What the first thing question I asked was what are we trying to design? Well, a device which basically sends the signal to the T_V_ to change its state, whether that be the power, or the channel um or the volume, everything is just um some sort of signal to change the state of the T_V_ or other appliance that it's sending the signal to. Um, so I decided I'd have a look at what th other people have designed and try and take some inspiration from that. But uh although we will want to be taking ideas from other people, we wanna make sure that our design stands out and I thought that was something that well it wasn't really my area because I'm dealing with the inside really. So um, yeah I ran out of time so I couldn't do this one as fun as the last one. Um and uh I found out that most uh controls use some form of infrared to send signals to the T_V_ presumably because of the cost issue of uh something like uh the same thing that computers use, wireless and, you don't need to send very much information. Um, most of them are powered by some form of battery. Now our one, I'm I'm not sure whether we want to look at the size issue because most of them are powered by triple A_ batteries but those can be quite bulky so I d I didn't know if you wanted to look at something else um so we could shrink down the size Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Could David Schaefer: of the Gerardo Ramirez: I David Schaefer: control. Gerardo Ramirez: can I interject to ask a question Elmer Flores: Mm-hmm. David Schaefer: Yeah Gerardo Ramirez: there, is David Schaefer: sure. Gerardo Ramirez: that appropriate? You're saying the triple A_ batteries are small or David Schaefer: Um Gerardo Ramirez: the David Schaefer: no no, Gerardo Ramirez: surrounding David Schaefer: if you Gerardo Ramirez: it? David Schaefer: if you look at if you look at most remote controls they're quite they're quite chunky and Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. David Schaefer: that's because of the size of the batteries, they have to be obviously this certain size to fit those Gerardo Ramirez: Right, David Schaefer: batteries Gerardo Ramirez: the triple David Schaefer: in. Gerardo Ramirez: A_s are the smallest you can David Schaefer: Yeah Gerardo Ramirez: get David Schaefer: the Gerardo Ramirez: are they not, David Schaefer: the Elmer Flores: They David Schaefer: well Gerardo Ramirez: right? Elmer Flores: are. Darin Jamerson: Okay. David Schaefer: you can you can get the sort of circular round ones Gerardo Ramirez: Oh David Schaefer: but I'm just Gerardo Ramirez: I see. David Schaefer: wondering about power consumption and how much you need to send Gerardo Ramirez: Okay. David Schaefer: the data across. Um, and d which leads sort of onto the next point about 'em being small and easy to carry round. Um, now the ones at the moment are small but I was just wondering if we could look at something a bit smaller. Now the main components I came up with um were obviously the power source for the batteries 'cause otherwise it's not gonna work, uh as I said about the w which batteries we were gonna choose, we can uh discuss that later and then you obviously need something to decode the information that you're putting in from from the controller and to turn it into an i uh infrared signal which we're going to use to send the information. Now these have a wireless range of up to about five metres which is sort of suitable for anyone who's watching the T_V_ unless they're in a cinema, which not most people do so as we're applying to the most audience that should be fine. And then I was uh just had a quick look at the external design but I d I left that mostly to the uh interface designer. And so this is what I had as the basic idea of what we wanna do. It's not a proper circuit, I'm not sure if it'd work or not, I'm not even confident that those are the real um the real way you'd wire it up but anyway, we've just got the the power going to the infrared bulb with the chip and the uh U_I_ interface um which would basically, when you when you pressed anything it would the chip would convert it into some form of I_R_ data which could be decoded by the T_V_ receiver, which obviously means that we're gonna have to conform to whatever um whatever form of communication that the T_V_s are already using and since that that's another use and reason to use that infrared because that's what all T_V_s use at the moment. And then finally, um we want uh the it to be available to a wide audience at a low cost so all the components that I've put forward are uh low in cost so that that should be good. Um it should should be different enough um from the alternative products to get a good consumer base, we were talking about it before and also just something that I was thinking about, uh because they're small Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. David Schaefer: they're also easy to lose so if we could look into some way of d dunno some anti-going down the side of the sofa Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. David Schaefer: thing that you could have, I th that was just sort of a general point there. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. David Schaefer: And Gerardo Ramirez: That's David Schaefer: that's Gerardo Ramirez: a very important David Schaefer: uh Gerardo Ramirez: part, it came up David Schaefer: yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: in our market research findings too so I can refer to that, David Schaefer: Alright okay, Gerardo Ramirez: whenever you like Gerardo Ramirez to present. David Schaefer: and yeah, that's that's what I came up with there, so Elmer Flores: Okay, David Schaefer: if Elmer Flores: thank David Schaefer: you wanna Elmer Flores: you very much. Um, would you like to continue Darin Jamerson: Yep Elmer Flores: on from that? David Schaefer: Ooh. Darin Jamerson: 'Kay. Elmer Flores: Or, Darin Jamerson: It can be Elmer Flores: maybe move the laptop Darin Jamerson: okay, that's Elmer Flores: over. Darin Jamerson: okay with Gerardo Ramirez. further. Darin Jamerson: Oops. Darin Jamerson: Why's it not working? F_ eight, right? Elmer Flores: F_ function. David Schaefer: Function F_ eight yeah. Darin Jamerson: Okay. Mm Gerardo Ramirez: No. Darin Jamerson: why's it in the right? Gerardo Ramirez: The plug hasn't come out at the Darin Jamerson: Yeah, Gerardo Ramirez: bottom, Darin Jamerson: it's Gerardo Ramirez: has Darin Jamerson: connecting. Gerardo Ramirez: it? No. David Schaefer: No, no yeah it's just. Gerardo Ramirez: Meter adjusting. Elmer Flores: Oh, there. Darin Jamerson: okay. Yeah. Actually mm some of my points might overlap with what William's David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: just mention, but basically my method was like uh whatever brainstorming we did in the last meeting just a couple valuable points and started developing on and there might be some missing loops in this thing which I think we'll uh take a feedback from the marketing because um, I haven't had some marketing data and basically every product is marketable. So purpose, as William already said, I would put it to simplify the interaction with T_V_ to make make it as simple as possible. And to summarise I I would say it's it should be user-friendly by being easy to use, rather than having a lot of complex button because you can have an engineering maybe having hundred buttons and maybe having uh a remote control which has the main features like volume control or channel ch changing the channel or whatever. But we are to to make it unique so that people want to buy it, will this two features together. So what the concept is to have a flip-top model. The main functions such as which are like often used will be on the top and the complex functions which say you you can say like the y young generation or trendy generation want to pr say programme their favourite channels or whatever, can be put in the middle part of the f flip-top. So it's like it could be accessed by a wide ra range of uh audience and we can punch in new f features such as uh added features such as shock proof body and maybe a design to appeal to a lot of people. Findings most people prefer us user-friendly rather than complex remote controls because there are times like uh people have used a remote control for say a year or something and they they are not used maybe thirty to forty percent of the buttons so it's not of no use of punching in the uh trying to put in those things in on the top of the remote control and try to confuse the user. As we saw we we have to make a profit also so we we can maybe go for an economies of a higher production mm by fifty million we said? David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: Yeah, with that I think we'll be able to achieve economies of scale also, so we can give in add in more features and make it less costly. Um, that's so this is if you ask Gerardo Ramirez personally, I would make uh flip-top with a trendy uh uh design and s maybe we we should look at also like the buttons whe whether they are like soft or little hard because they are David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: times when the buttons tend to be a bit hard after uh continuous use usage and all that. So in overall a simple and uh user-friendly design. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Darin Jamerson: Uh any Elmer Flores: 'Kay. Darin Jamerson: comments like, if you want? Elmer Flores: Um, I think we'll chat about it at the end, Darin Jamerson: Okay. Elmer Flores: okay so if anyone wants to write something down that they want to bring up at the end, Gerardo Ramirez: 'Kay. David Schaefer: Yeah sure. Elmer Flores: um Ooh, it's vibrating, that's strange. Oh, God. Elmer Flores: Right, okay. Gerardo Ramirez: Have I got Darin Jamerson: I Gerardo Ramirez: to keep Darin Jamerson: think Gerardo Ramirez: this Darin Jamerson: you'll Gerardo Ramirez: here? Darin Jamerson: have to You can't Gerardo Ramirez: Does it matter? Darin Jamerson: It'll have to this can't Gerardo Ramirez: I'll Darin Jamerson: be Gerardo Ramirez: have Darin Jamerson: pulled. Gerardo Ramirez: t I'll have to move Elmer Flores: We just Gerardo Ramirez: it Elmer Flores: do Gerardo Ramirez: won't Elmer Flores: the best we Gerardo Ramirez: I? Elmer Flores: can. Gerardo Ramirez: Uh, whoops. Darin Jamerson: You'll have to push it a bit more. Gerardo Ramirez: Will it manage? Bit more, oh Darin Jamerson: Yep. Gerardo Ramirez: dear. Darin Jamerson: Yeah this is more than enough. David Schaefer: There we go, Darin Jamerson: Okay. David Schaefer: I've got a bit more of the Gerardo Ramirez: Oh. David Schaefer: cable. we go. Gerardo Ramirez: Is that okay? Darin Jamerson: Yeah I think you can pull it out now. Gerardo Ramirez: Thank you, just pull it closer a little bit. David Schaefer: Uh you should be able to Elmer Flores: Yeah, David Schaefer: and Elmer Flores: you Gerardo Ramirez: Get Elmer Flores: might. Gerardo Ramirez: it right David Schaefer: yeah, Gerardo Ramirez: over, David Schaefer: there Gerardo Ramirez: okay, David Schaefer: you Gerardo Ramirez: thank you. Elmer Flores: Ah. David Schaefer: go. Elmer Flores: Look at that. Gerardo Ramirez: Okay, um, I'm going to look at the functional requirements from the marketing point of view and uh obviously our starting point with marketing is always market research. Um, so that's where we started, we used our our usability lab, the company's usability lab, we did our usual selection methods to get a cross-section of the general public, male and female, all age groups from fifteen upwards and um we observed them in the lab, just their general use of the remote control, you can see we had a hundred subjects there. Our findings, lots of findings, I've just summarised some of them here. The overall thing which I've I've got at the top there in italics is that users dislike the look and feel of current remote controls, so it has obvious design implications there. Um, we found that seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly. Eighty percent would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy, we were quite surprised by that finding, but um that's quite a high proportion of our our, you know, international target group are prepared to spend more money for something that's a bit nicer looking. Um, current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user overall. For example, you can see below there, seventy five percent of users zap a lot, so you've got your Darin Jamerson: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: person sunk back in the sofa channel-hopping. So again there's power implications there. Um, fifty percent of users only use ten percent of the buttons, so again a big design issue there. Um and possibly we can also cut back on cost if we don't have so many functions actually on the remote control. Um the biggest frustrations that people found with regard to personal preferences were um something that you you mentioned earlier, uh remote controls are often lost in the room, it's a slipping down the back of the sofa type of thing, uh fifty percent were were particularly frustrated by that. Uh thirty four percent of people take said they take too much time to learn to use and I think that ties in with the um the previous finding of people only using ten percent of the buttons, they just can't be bothered to learn about the other functions. Um, um slightly more than a quarter of people said it was bad for uh repetitive strain injury. You know those small movements of the remote control can lead to kind of shoulder and elbow problems. Um the vast majority of the thirty five and under age group would like um a liquid crystal display and speech recognition, again that was to aid I think in uh when they've lost the actual remote control, some kind of speech recognition. Something we didn't put to them, but which I'm thinking of now is um even if perhaps the lost control can give off a bleep every now and again til you find it or a flashing light, possibly. Um, that trend reverses in the older age groups. So thirty fives and unders who would like those two features, that kind of evens out thirty five to forty five and in the older age group it kind of reverses, they're not so bothered with this. I Darin Jamerson: 'Kay. Gerardo Ramirez: had marvellous tables and things that I could show you, but I think I'll just keep it simple, if there's any more information I can email you extra details, Elmer Flores: Okay. Gerardo Ramirez: is that David Schaefer: Okay. Gerardo Ramirez: okay? Elmer Flores: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: That's fine. Elmer Flores: Right, David Schaefer: Huh. Elmer Flores: um we have new project requirements, um we're not going to be using teletext, Darin Jamerson: Okay. Elmer Flores: um apparently the consumers consider it outdated with the internet now. Um our control is only going to be for T_V_, it's not going to be a combined control, which limits you know all of the different things that it limits the cost for us, but it Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: also makes it easier to understand Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm, Elmer Flores: for Gerardo Ramirez: so Elmer Flores: the Gerardo Ramirez: can we not Elmer Flores: consumer. Gerardo Ramirez: programme a video with this remote control? Elmer Flores: It says for T_V_ only, so looks like it's Gerardo Ramirez: Just Elmer Flores: just Gerardo Ramirez: channel-hopping. Elmer Flores: yeah, I think maybe Sky things like that might be incorporated into it, but I don't know, what do you think? It just said, for T_V_ only. Gerardo Ramirez: Would Elmer Flores: But Gerardo Ramirez: that Elmer Flores: I mean, Gerardo Ramirez: imply Elmer Flores: general Gerardo Ramirez: video Elmer Flores: T_V_ Gerardo Ramirez: use? Elmer Flores: controls David Schaefer: T yeah yeah. Elmer Flores: do do video as well. David Schaefer: I d well I dunno Elmer Flores: I mean you David Schaefer: 'cause Elmer Flores: bu David Schaefer: uh Elmer Flores: well David Schaefer: the Elmer Flores: som David Schaefer: w if Elmer Flores: you David Schaefer: you've Elmer Flores: get David Schaefer: g Elmer Flores: com you get combined T_V_ and videos don't David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: you? Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm, David Schaefer: If yeah and if Gerardo Ramirez: yes. David Schaefer: you got if you got a Sky box, they have one of those plus boxes, you can record straight off the T_V_ anyway Elmer Flores: Mm. David Schaefer: so on to on to like the T_V_ hard drive or so. Elmer Flores: I think we assume that it's still got play and stop functions and Gerardo Ramirez: Yes. Elmer Flores: programming. David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: Anything about that on the market research or something like regarding whether people want a combined something like that? Gerardo Ramirez: Um we didn't really look into that but remember we found that finding that most people only use about uh Elmer Flores: Mm. Darin Jamerson: Ten Gerardo Ramirez: ten Darin Jamerson: perc Gerardo Ramirez: percent of the buttons, Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Gerardo Ramirez: I think th th those do tend to be the basic channel-hopping things and David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: on and off for the video, fast-forwarding, so on and I think it's sort of general knowledge that people do find programming their videos a nightmare. Darin Jamerson: Okay. Elmer Flores: Hmm. Gerardo Ramirez: So I. David Schaefer: Ju um just as an idea on the uh speech recognition thing Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. David Schaefer: that pr it'd probably be quite expensive Darin Jamerson: Pens David Schaefer: to incorporate an entire speech recognition thing and they're not that great Gerardo Ramirez: In fact David Schaefer: anyway. Gerardo Ramirez: I've just called up that table there, David Schaefer: Alright, okay. Gerardo Ramirez: we asked those two questions, table relates to both questions, so we didn't differentiate. Would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen, that's multi-function remote and would you pay David Schaefer: Alright, Gerardo Ramirez: more for David Schaefer: okay. Gerardo Ramirez: speech recognition in a remote control? So you can see how the the yes no sort Elmer Flores: Mm-hmm. Gerardo Ramirez: of varies David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: across the age group there, and a substantial number of don't knows in the older age group, I think that's just general fear of new technology. Elmer Flores: Yeah, David Schaefer: Yeah Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. David Schaefer: but um Elmer Flores: bu David Schaefer: on on that again I just thought 'cause you can get those key chains now and you whistle and then it'll Gerardo Ramirez: Oh David Schaefer: let Gerardo Ramirez: yeah. David Schaefer: off a loud noise to let you know where it is Gerardo Ramirez: Right. David Schaefer: so I thought that could be quite a Elmer Flores: We do have a budget limitation that we can't control ourselves, so I think when we can take a cheaper option which still does the Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: same kinda thing um because it is something I it needs to be the thing that you use to find it needs to be something that you don't lose, you were David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: saying whistling, David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: maybe on the T_V_ you could put like a pack on the T_V_ or something so you can't see the remote, you go and press the button on top of the T_V_ and it beeps and Gerardo Ramirez: Yes. Elmer Flores: you're David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: like oh Darin Jamerson: Okay. Elmer Flores: okay it's over there, Gerardo Ramirez: That's Elmer Flores: something Gerardo Ramirez: a super idea. Elmer Flores: like that, but David Schaefer: Hmm. Elmer Flores: that's that sounds a lot cheaper to Gerardo Ramirez. David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: Yeah. Elmer Flores: Um the third thing was that we have to make sure the corporate image is very much incorporated into the handset. Um so we want logo, we want um fashionable, trendy, I mean what you were talking about with the marketing. Um, people paying more for it to look good. Um, we need to focus on that as well. Gerardo Ramirez: Yes, further market research will be needed to kind of focus on what that is, it's gonna be different for a fifteen year old th for somebody who's sixty Elmer Flores: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: and also across the world if we're aiming at the international market. What is um attractive to a trendy New Yorker and what is attractive to a retired South African, Elmer Flores: Mm. Gerardo Ramirez: I dunno, you get the idea. It's it's gonna vary around the world. At the end of the day, th the engineering design is one thing, it's the user interface design that may and th the sort of David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: you know fashionable aspect of it we might have to change for different markets round the world. Elmer Flores: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: So are we talking of a single model or maybe five, six designs? Sure. David Schaefer: Well y yeah you could you could have a number of different designs Darin Jamerson: Alright. David Schaefer: I mean inside they'd be essentially exactly the same. Darin Jamerson: Right. Elmer Flores: Mm-hmm. David Schaefer: Just Darin Jamerson: The features Gerardo Ramirez: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: could be same and the body could look David Schaefer: yeah, Darin Jamerson: slightly different. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. David Schaefer: yeah. Darin Jamerson: So Elmer Flores: What about you were talking about the buttons, Darin Jamerson: Yeah. Elmer Flores: um the controls that are coming out now have kind of big, rubber buttons, not tiny little one, big, rubber buttons, but what about, I mean, 'cause we got to make it original, David Schaefer: 'Kay. Elmer Flores: what about um you know with the touch screen David Schaefer: Yeah, Elmer Flores: computers David Schaefer: yeah that's what I was just Elmer Flores: yeah? David Schaefer: yeah. Elmer Flores: Um so you it's like a little panel that you touch rather than a button which shouldn't wear out as much either, not David Schaefer: No, Elmer Flores: sure about David Schaefer: well no Elmer Flores: the David Schaefer: 'cause you wouldn't have to you don't actually Elmer Flores: You David Schaefer: have Elmer Flores: don't David Schaefer: to press Elmer Flores: have to press David Schaefer: them you Elmer Flores: it, David Schaefer: just Elmer Flores: you just have to put your thumb onto it. David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: Um, think that might appeal I'm thinking kind of Japan, I'm thinking uh young, um Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: office people, Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: trendy David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: kind Gerardo Ramirez: Yes Elmer Flores: of a thing. Gerardo Ramirez: it will appeal to sections of the market Elmer Flores: Um, Gerardo Ramirez: def Elmer Flores: but quite, um, easily labelled so that anyone can oh yeah that's obvious what that's for Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: and it's not daunting to maybe the older Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm, Elmer Flores: generations, David Schaefer: Mm. Gerardo Ramirez: mm. David Schaefer: But Elmer Flores: um David Schaefer: also er ergonomics as we're saying with the different designs, ergonomics uh there's sort of physically different things 'cause um if you've ever seen the X_ Box they had to make two different sized controllers because people in Japan wouldn't buy it because the controller Elmer Flores: Were too David Schaefer: was Elmer Flores: big. David Schaefer: physically to big because um they're c uh just generally Japanese people have smaller hands Elmer Flores: Mm. David Schaefer: so they couldn't get round the controller which is uh so if you I don't know what 'cause you obviously you can have bigger buttons for some countries or something and smaller ones for others. Darin Jamerson: Yeah, uh maybe to as uh it it was indicated that uh uh risk uh of uh repeated use, the injuries, maybe a touch screen could be a better option for that. David Schaefer: Yeah. Yeah. Darin Jamerson: So, a bigger b okay so y you're dividing designs based on not only segment age groups, you're desi uh dividing it according to the countries also, the market. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Darin Jamerson: Maybe for U_S_ and all you can have a slightly bigger remote David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: control and maybe in Japan and all you need to have a small, David Schaefer: Hmm. Darin Jamerson: yeah. Elmer Flores: I think we have to design David Schaefer: Huh. Elmer Flores: one product David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: and then the company can take it wherever they want to uh David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: the features slightly, Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: um. Gerardo Ramirez: Th the internal d engineering design has got to remain the same, Elmer Flores: It's Gerardo Ramirez: yes, Elmer Flores: gonna be the same, Gerardo Ramirez: absolutely. Elmer Flores: so we need to focus on just one thing, David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: not get bogged down in lots of different um possibilities, Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: um. Gerardo Ramirez: I'm concerned, when you read the the R_S_I_ issue again, repetitive strain injury, I don't think just moving your finger around on a small screen is going to deal with that enough, I think that is still a kind of a question mark issue how we deal with that. Um, David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: R_S_I_ tends to be caused by repetitive small movements. I'm j I really can't get my head round this one, this may David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: have to be postponed to a future meeting but it's something we should think about. David Schaefer: I yeah I was just thinking about how you could combat that 'cause Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. David Schaefer: without without doing something where you have to move your arm Gerardo Ramirez: I David Schaefer: around Gerardo Ramirez: know, and it David Schaefer: to Gerardo Ramirez: becomes David Schaefer: change the Gerardo Ramirez: ridiculous, David Schaefer: channel and it Gerardo Ramirez: yes David Schaefer: becomes yeah. Elmer Flores: Or Gerardo Ramirez: I know. Elmer Flores: a speech recognition, David Schaefer: Yeah, Gerardo Ramirez: Yeah. David Schaefer: speech recognition, Elmer Flores: which David Schaefer: but Elmer Flores: is extremely expensive, David Schaefer: yeah. Elmer Flores: I Gerardo Ramirez: Yes. Elmer Flores: think that's the only way that you kind of avoid Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: that kind of issue. Gerardo Ramirez: Do we have to initially um, you know looking at the findings here, focus on a younger age group initially and then broaden out the market later. Do we really have to go for everyone right away? David Schaefer: Mm. Darin Jamerson: We Gerardo Ramirez: Um. Darin Jamerson: could focus on the biggest market. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. David Schaefer: Ge Darin Jamerson: If say David Schaefer: uh Darin Jamerson: people between age group of twenty to thirty five are Gerardo Ramirez: And when Darin Jamerson: the biggest Gerardo Ramirez: we've been throwing Darin Jamerson: market? Gerardo Ramirez: up our ideas we're automatically talking about business people, young people, trendy people. Elmer Flores: We are we're talking about um the type of company that we're working for as well. That they want um it to be fashionable, they want it to be trendy and you wouldn't automatically assume associate that with the older generations. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: Now with the baby boomers, the older generations are actually larger, they have a greater population David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: than us young Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: people, Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: but I don't think we're focusing on that, I think we are focusing on a sort of mid-range Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: um, business kind of class type Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: people. Gerardo Ramirez: I'm just thinking of budgetary issues too, for when it does get to the sort of broad scale marketing stage, we want to, you know, not waste money, not be profligate Elmer Flores: Mm-hmm. Gerardo Ramirez: and uh you know focus on where the idea will be taken up, first it's most likely to be taken up first of all where the main purchasing power is coming from for a product like this. Elmer Flores: Okay, so the remote control functions. Um we've got the T_V_, Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: we've got the video, now there's um I can't remember what it's called, the little code at the end of programme details, David Schaefer: Video plus. Elmer Flores: yes. We could use that as an alternative to programming in times, things like that, David Schaefer: Yeah Elmer Flores: is David Schaefer: yeah. Elmer Flores: that I always found that really easy when I discovered Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: it, Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: um because you've got your general record anyway so if you there's a programme on you want to put record on, that's fine, but if you do want to tape something David Schaefer: Just Elmer Flores: in David Schaefer: whack Elmer Flores: two days David Schaefer: in the Elmer Flores: time David Schaefer: number. Elmer Flores: and you're not sure if you're going to, you put the number in and it's just a number, it's not a date, it's not a time, it's not a channel, it's not when it finishes, it's not David Schaefer: And Elmer Flores: anything David Schaefer: you w Elmer Flores: like that, David Schaefer: yeah. Elmer Flores: it's just a number. David Schaefer: And you wouldn't you wouldn't need uh a whole host of extra buttons for that, you Elmer Flores: No. David Schaefer: just need one 'cause you've already got all the numbers Elmer Flores: You've already David Schaefer: there Elmer Flores: got David Schaefer: anyway, Elmer Flores: the numbers David Schaefer: yeah. Elmer Flores: for typing Gerardo Ramirez: Right, Elmer Flores: in anyway. Gerardo Ramirez: I've not come across that function but it sounds wonderful. Elmer Flores: It is after um if you look in the newspaper, David Schaefer: It's not Elmer Flores: T_V_ guide or any T_V_ guide there's a five, six David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: digit number afterwards and that's the number you put in Gerardo Ramirez: Ah, Elmer Flores: and it's Gerardo Ramirez: hmm. Elmer Flores: recorded that it's going to be on on Tuesdays at ten o'clock on the seventeenth so you don't have to worry about dates and you don't have to worry about times, Gerardo Ramirez: Right. Elmer Flores: um and it has been around for quite David Schaefer: It's Elmer Flores: a David Schaefer: been Elmer Flores: long time. David Schaefer: been around for a long time it's just it's not very well advertised Elmer Flores: No David Schaefer: as Elmer Flores: it's not David Schaefer: to how Gerardo Ramirez: Superb. Elmer Flores: um David Schaefer: to use it and Elmer Flores: but David Schaefer: things. Elmer Flores: I think if awareness was kind of Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: brought to the forefront about that David Schaefer: Mm. Gerardo Ramirez: Yes. David Schaefer: Though if y if you've got something like Sky anyway you can just click on it you can just press the button on the programme once and it'll record that programme Elmer Flores: Mm. Gerardo Ramirez: Right. David Schaefer: when it's on and you press it on it twice and it'll record the whole series. Gerardo Ramirez: Excellent, mm-hmm. David Schaefer: So that yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. David Schaefer: But just to have that function would Gerardo Ramirez: Right. David Schaefer: be would be really good. Elmer Flores: Okay so Gerardo Ramirez: Can I just run this past you while it occurs to Gerardo Ramirez, I don't mean to quickly jump from one subject to another, but just discussing the different age groups and targeting the different age groups it occurs to Gerardo Ramirez, to produce our own mobile phones, that that's kind of what led us on to comparing T_V_ remote controls with with their design features, um, chain companies like Carphone Warehouse, you can pop in anytime with a phone that you bought for them w if you've got any problems with it and they'll fix it, they'll David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: phone the company, you can use Elmer Flores: Mm-hmm. Gerardo Ramirez: their telephones. Is it worthwhile with with our retail outlets having a a similar um kind of service so that if older users were deterred from buying this, if they know they can just pop into one of our high street outlets, th you know, which button is it I press for this? Th as free as a free aspect of our service, would that not make it more attractive to them? David Schaefer: Mm. But the only problem is that with a mobile phone you signed for a contract so they um the companies who uh who you deal with have actually they've they've got an obligation to Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. David Schaefer: to help you out and Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. David Schaefer: also I mean it's it's fair enough to have some sort of help service but I I'm not sure how much the cost would be of Gerardo Ramirez: Right. David Schaefer: having Elmer Flores: The functionality of it in the sense that you're sitting there, you're pressing this button and your T_V_'s not doing it. Gerardo Ramirez: Alright. Elmer Flores: Taking your T_V_ and your Gerardo Ramirez: Yes Elmer Flores: control and saying look this is what I'm doing, it's not working, what should I do? Gerardo Ramirez: If it was something as simple as you couldn't change the channel, but I mean for if there were any more or are we absolutely definite it's only gonna be for T_V_ and video, we're David Schaefer: Yeah, Gerardo Ramirez: not Elmer Flores: I David Schaefer: I Gerardo Ramirez: gonna Elmer Flores: think David Schaefer: mean Gerardo Ramirez: put any Elmer Flores: so. Gerardo Ramirez: okay, Elmer Flores: Um Gerardo Ramirez: just a thought. David Schaefer: I mean instru instruction books I Elmer Flores: Instruction David Schaefer: feel c I Elmer Flores: manuals. David Schaefer: reckon Gerardo Ramirez: Okay. David Schaefer: can Elmer Flores: But David Schaefer: cover Elmer Flores: I mean David Schaefer: that. Elmer Flores: they're there's customer service, there David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: will be a customer service number David Schaefer: Department, Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. David Schaefer: yeah. Elmer Flores: thing that you can phone up and speak to Gerardo Ramirez: Sure. Elmer Flores: and that way there's no call out charge, there's no extra, t the person Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: has to walk to a shop Darin Jamerson: Right. Elmer Flores: on the high street, Gerardo Ramirez: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: I think Elmer Flores: um. Darin Jamerson: it will be too much of an effort for a person to for a phone maybe he might walk down the street, David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: but for a remote he will just refer Gerardo Ramirez: Not Darin Jamerson: to the Gerardo Ramirez: for Darin Jamerson: manual Gerardo Ramirez: such David Schaefer: And they're Gerardo Ramirez: simple Darin Jamerson: and all that. Gerardo Ramirez: functions David Schaefer: yeah, Gerardo Ramirez: because David Schaefer: they Gerardo Ramirez: we're David Schaefer: should Gerardo Ramirez: focusing David Schaefer: be Elmer Flores: Mm. David Schaefer: f Gerardo Ramirez: on that, yes Elmer Flores: But David Schaefer: yeah. Elmer Flores: we Gerardo Ramirez: okay. Elmer Flores: should focus on making the manual as Darin Jamerson: Simple. Elmer Flores: user-friendly Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: as possible David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: because a lot of them are just tiny David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: little writing and lots and lots of pages. Gerardo Ramirez: Puts people off reading David Schaefer: It's the Gerardo Ramirez: them Elmer Flores: It David Schaefer: uh Gerardo Ramirez: so David Schaefer: yeah. Elmer Flores: does, Gerardo Ramirez: they just do the Elmer Flores: you just Gerardo Ramirez: obvious, Elmer Flores: put it in the Gerardo Ramirez: yes. Elmer Flores: drawer until something goes wrong and then you try and search through it, so Gerardo Ramirez: Sure, Elmer Flores: that should be something we think Gerardo Ramirez: okay. Elmer Flores: about. Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: Um, what other functions? We need I'm not sure if we need a design um decision now, but we should think about c 'cause you've got the dilemma between oh batteries, that's what I was thinking about. Mobile phone batteries, what kinda battery is that? David Schaefer: Um they're they're specially made for the for the mobile phones, but they come with a charger, I mean you could you could bundle a charger Elmer Flores: Well they la David Schaefer: in with it Elmer Flores: they David Schaefer: but Elmer Flores: they last quite a long time, David Schaefer: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: and if you had uh when you th the thing that you get with mobile house phones, David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: you sit it in its charger when you're not using it or David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: t at Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: night or something, but it doesn't really matter 'cause it never really runs out 'cause it lasts a long time once David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: it is charged. Um, something like that should reduce David Schaefer: Yeah Elmer Flores: the David Schaefer: and Elmer Flores: size David Schaefer: if Elmer Flores: of it. David Schaefer: yeah if you if you had if you had one of those uh just coming back to your other point about pressing the button and setting off the bleeper in the room that could uh Elmer Flores: Yeah it could be on that David Schaefer: Yeah on Elmer Flores: yeah, David Schaefer: that as well so. Elmer Flores: okay. S Darin Jamerson: So are we talking of a concept of a rechargeable something David Schaefer: Yeah Darin Jamerson: on David Schaefer: some Darin Jamerson: the remote? David Schaefer: sort Elmer Flores: Yes. David Schaefer: of docking station or Elmer Flores: Rechargeable Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: with a docking station. David Schaefer: yeah. Elmer Flores: So the rechargeable which would be your David Schaefer: Yeah yeah Elmer Flores: field. David Schaefer: th yeah that that'd be fine, Elmer Flores: Okay. David Schaefer: and also that would mean they wouldn't have to go out buying batteries all the time. Elmer Flores: Yes, Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Darin Jamerson: Right. Elmer Flores: which it is cheaper in the long David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: run as well. Um, th the shape you got trendy. I don't wanna big box with lots of things, you don't want a tiny sort of Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: little thing either, Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: because then you have got the repetitive strain injury no matter how many Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Elmer Flores: how much you try and make it simple, um Gerardo Ramirez: And we don't w I mean so many remote controls look absolutely identical, these Elmer Flores: They Gerardo Ramirez: long, Elmer Flores: do. David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: brown things with the same coloured buttons all crammed in on the s the surface. We definitely an ob an obvious thing, a very simple thing is to get away from these brown rectangles, we don't want that. Elmer Flores: Okay so we've got Darin Jamerson: Okay. Elmer Flores: a flip-screen. Um Darin Jamerson: What I was thinking of a design which Nokia h uh came up with almost six or seven years back. Basically we have a flat one it it looks like a box, David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: like a chocolate. That's very strenuous because your thumb is slightly up, Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Darin Jamerson: so they came up with something like this, curled up, so here, so it's like uh you can say a Gerardo Ramirez: Slightly Darin Jamerson: banana Gerardo Ramirez: curved, Darin Jamerson: shape kind of thing, curled Gerardo Ramirez: curved. Darin Jamerson: up David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: like a boat. Elmer Flores: Okay. Darin Jamerson: G uh so what happens is you don't have to press your thumb too down like. So it's already Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Darin Jamerson: curled up so Elmer Flores: 'Cause it's Darin Jamerson: your Elmer Flores: kind Darin Jamerson: thumb Elmer Flores: of moulded Darin Jamerson: doesn't y Elmer Flores: to your hand Darin Jamerson: yeah Elmer Flores: anyway. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm. Darin Jamerson: so we can have a s like you know moulded according to your David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: the way you h hold of it's kind of semi-circular in the bottom, something like that. Elmer Flores: Okay. Darin Jamerson: I wouldn't say exactly semi-circular but Elmer Flores: Can Darin Jamerson: yeah smooth. Elmer Flores: you look into the company logo? Um, things that are associated with the company in view to trying to incorporate that into the design of the product. Darin Jamerson: Current. Elmer Flores: I mean for example, if it was a C_ or something like that, you could have it in a vague C_ shape that opens up kind Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: of like a shell, Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: or something, um something along those lines to be able to incorporate it quite um obviously into the design, while also making it quite different from anything else that's there. Darin Jamerson: We could look in at Gerardo Ramirez: I mean Darin Jamerson: that Gerardo Ramirez: look Darin Jamerson: but Gerardo Ramirez: at the mobile. David Schaefer: Mm. Darin Jamerson: Mm. What we were talking is to make it more rather than like sea-shells, logo could become as you could put a logo in the corner of uh the model, rather than you know, trying to make it like a sea shell or whatever you were ta telling like. Elmer Flores: Well we need to think about how it's gonna look different. Gerardo Ramirez: I think that's that sounds a really attractive idea, I've Darin Jamerson: A Gerardo Ramirez: not Darin Jamerson: sea Gerardo Ramirez: come Darin Jamerson: shell? Gerardo Ramirez: across anything like that before, if it kind of yeah and that opens out into your flip-top. David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: Then it's nice t to h you can make it lightweight plastic, nice to hold in the palm of the hand and just because you're having to actually insert in between the two covers, that's gonna take care of some of the repetitive strain injury trying p prevent a lot of that I would think. I think it's a really nice idea Darin Jamerson: Yeah Gerardo Ramirez: and Darin Jamerson: we could look in at Gerardo Ramirez: plus Darin Jamerson: that. Gerardo Ramirez: you can get you know even though we're using plastic, you can still I mean think of the designs you can get in plastic, we can do a nice conch shell or scallop shell exterior. Elmer Flores: Or you could do um different, like you get with mobile phones, different fascias. David Schaefer: Mm. Elmer Flores: You Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: could have different kind of casings. Gerardo Ramirez: Yeah. Elmer Flores: So you could have like psychedelic ones Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: for younger people and sleek ones and Gerardo Ramirez: Less chance of it being lost too, it's not like a chocolate brown lozenge that's gonna go down the sofa Elmer Flores: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: and people might want to put it on their mantelpiece or whatever as a ki if it looks attractive enough as a kind of ornament they don't not gonna lose it so much either. It's easier to bit nice to handle. Elmer Flores: Mm. Darin Jamerson: Yeah maybe we could come at some say five, six des designs and then choose which are whichever Elmer Flores: Okay. Darin Jamerson: appeals the David Schaefer: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Darin Jamerson: most like, that Elmer Flores: Okay. Darin Jamerson: could be the most common design. Gerardo Ramirez: Okay. Elmer Flores: Okay. Darin Jamerson: But we can like think of five, six designs. Elmer Flores: Right, I think we have to round it up, um Gerardo Ramirez: Can I just quickly Elmer Flores: Sure. Gerardo Ramirez: um go over the new project requirements so that I haven't missed anything. So it's no teletext, it's only for T_V_ and by implication video, Darin Jamerson: Mm-hmm. Gerardo Ramirez: our corporate image should be incorporated in the remote control, um something about Videoplus. Elmer Flores: That was um in cutting down the number that was kinda separate that was cutting down the number Gerardo Ramirez: Right. Elmer Flores: of functions, Gerardo Ramirez: Right. Elmer Flores: making it simpler so instead of having lots of Gerardo Ramirez: Right, Elmer Flores: things Gerardo Ramirez: so Elmer Flores: you Gerardo Ramirez: when Elmer Flores: put Gerardo Ramirez: they Elmer Flores: in Gerardo Ramirez: press Elmer Flores: for date Gerardo Ramirez: for programming you it comes up on the L_C_D_, a reminder about using Videoplus? So that they have a look at the guide and Or was is this nothing to do with the project requirements, is this just that was an add-on feature? Elmer Flores: It's kinda takes the place of Gerardo Ramirez: Uh-huh. Elmer Flores: having a button to press for the date and having the Gerardo Ramirez: Right. Elmer Flores: button to press for the channel, things like Gerardo Ramirez: Right, Elmer Flores: that. Gerardo Ramirez: so it's Elmer Flores: Um Gerardo Ramirez: kind of doing away Elmer Flores: it could Gerardo Ramirez: with Elmer Flores: be Gerardo Ramirez: the programming Elmer Flores: it c Gerardo Ramirez: feature? Elmer Flores: It David Schaefer: Yeah. Elmer Flores: yes, Gerardo Ramirez: Right. Elmer Flores: it could be uh adv advertisement feature, um rather than design feature, you know, drawing attention to that. And it also paid um lip service in the instruction manual, 'cause it's very simple so putting it down in words should be helpful. Gerardo Ramirez: Mm, and the rechargeable batteries. Elmer Flores: Yeah. Gerardo Ramirez: Was there anything else there that we in the new Elmer Flores: Um Gerardo Ramirez: new project requirements? Darin Jamerson: Yeah. Elmer Flores: We've got the buttons but I think we'll Darin Jamerson: Yeah. Elmer Flores: work through that with the design of it, Gerardo Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Elmer Flores: um. Gerardo Ramirez: That's not at the moment a requirement, it's something we're looking at, Elmer Flores: Yes. Gerardo Ramirez: what preference Elmer Flores: Yes. Gerardo Ramirez: so it may come round to market research at some point Elmer Flores: And Gerardo Ramirez: to see Elmer Flores: we've Gerardo Ramirez: what Elmer Flores: talked Gerardo Ramirez: people Elmer Flores: about Gerardo Ramirez: would like. Elmer Flores: um there being an alarm or something, a beeping Darin Jamerson: For David Schaefer: Yeah. Darin Jamerson: detection, Elmer Flores: for being lost, Darin Jamerson: right. Elmer Flores: um. Learning how to use it should be as simple as possible. But there aren't gonna be that func that many functions incorporated into it so it should be fine and the I the instruction manual, I don't know if we deal with that, um. I think Yep, Darin Jamerson: Yep, Elmer Flores: and different Darin Jamerson: I think Elmer Flores: from what's out there. Gerardo Ramirez: Okay. Elmer Flores: Yep, I think that's us. Gerardo Ramirez: What would you Darin Jamerson: True. Gerardo Ramirez: specifically David Schaefer: Okay. Gerardo Ramirez: like marketing to look at before the next meeting? Or shall I just sort of generally look at all the issues involved? Elmer Flores: I think you might get guidance, but um I th Instruction manuals, 'cause Gerardo Ramirez: Okay. Elmer Flores: there tends to be a demonised thing, u um, they're everyone's got like a big pile of them, but no one really uses them. Gerardo Ramirez: Okay. Elmer Flores: Um. Gerardo Ramirez: Whoops, Darin Jamerson: Oops. Gerardo Ramirez: questionnaire Darin Jamerson: We should f Gerardo Ramirez: four. Elmer Flores: Yes, right. Gerardo Ramirez: 'Cause we're Elmer Flores: Okay. Gerardo Ramirez: at Darin Jamerson: I Gerardo Ramirez: lunchtime Darin Jamerson: think it's time Gerardo Ramirez: now Darin Jamerson: for Gerardo Ramirez: I think. Darin Jamerson: us to get back to Elmer Flores: Right, okay. I think you can email Gerardo Ramirez, if there's any more questions. Um and I'll be able to not answer them.

David Schaefer gave his presentation on the basic functions of the remote. He presented the basic components that remotes share and suggested that smaller batteries be considered in the product design. Darin Jamerson presented his ideas for making the remote easy-to-use; he discussed using a simple design and hiding complicated features from the main interface. Gerardo Ramirez presented the findings from a lab study on user requirements for a remote control device, and discussed users' demand for a simple interface and advanced technology. Elmer Flores presented the new requirements that the remote not include a teletext function, that it be used only to control television, and that it include the company image in its design. The group narrowed down their target marketing group to the youth market. They discussed the functions the remote will have, including Video Plus capability and rechargeable batteries. A customer service plan was suggested to make the remote seem more user-friendly, but it was decided that helpful manuals were more within the budget. The group then discussed the shell-like shape of the remote and including several different casing options to buyers.

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Gordon Stanley: I'll wait until you're all um hooked up. Paul Smith: Oh good grief. 'Kay. Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Smith: Oh. Gordon Stanley: Put it on in that Paul Demmer: Oops. Gordon Stanley: way. Thanks. Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Demmer: Mm. Gordon Stanley: Welcome back everybody, Paul Demmer: After lunch. Gordon Stanley: hope you've had fun. Paul Demmer: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: Right um this is our conceptual design meeting, Paul Demmer: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: um I think we're slightly ahead of ourselves from the last meeting, John Byrd: Yeah, Paul Demmer: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: I John Byrd: yeah Gordon Stanley: th John Byrd: I was getting that Gordon Stanley: I John Byrd: impression as Gordon Stanley: I John Byrd: well. Gordon Stanley: think Paul Smith: Mm. Gordon Stanley: yeah um. This is where we talk about um properties, materials, user-interface and John Byrd: Etcetera. Gordon Stanley: trend-watching. Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: So I think we've touched on a few things to do with that already, but we'll just go. Um the minutes from the last time. Um we had a couple of um changes in our plans in that we couldn't use teletext, it wasn't gonna be a control for everything um and that we had to incorporate the image of the company into it somehow. Um we have decided on a leaving out the voice recognition, we've decided on there being a flip design and um a different shape from what's normal. We were thinking a shell, but something along those lines, just a different shape from what's normal, um. You were going to look into the rechargeable batteries John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: and we were gonna think about the port and an alarm for getting it lost, John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: things like that, um and our market was going to be young, business, kind of range. Paul Demmer: 'Kay. Gordon Stanley: Okay, so shall we start with the first presentation? Paul Smith: Shall I? Paul Demmer: Yep. Gordon Stanley: Yes Paul Smith: Okay. Gordon Stanley: if you feel Paul Smith: We just connect up. Thank you. Paul Smith: There we go. Okay um so we decided on our market and so this feedback from the marketing department is really about trend watching. Um the methods we used to decide on uh current trends and so on, market trends, were that we did our traditional uh our usual market research study uh with a hundred subjects and the the general feedback from them is that the most im uh w I'm sorry I'm slightly tongue-tied after lunch, sorry Gordon Stanley: It's Paul Smith: Project Gordon Stanley: okay. Paul Smith: Manager. Um we decided on the most important aspect i uh required in a remote control device and we'll come to that later. So that was one of the first things we did. Also with our company um being forerunners in uh putting fashion into technology, we also looked at a fashion update um using our consultants on fashion and design in Paris and Milan. Uh so the general findings from that was uh in the market trends the most important aspect for remote controls were people want a fancy look and feel, rather than the the current functional look and feel of remote controls. They also also want a remote control to be technologically innovative, and of course, as we predicted, that it should be easy to use. Now I should point out that the first of those findings, fancy look and feel, is the most important, is twice as important as the second, technologically innovative, which is in turn twice as important as being easy to use. So possibly that the feature that we put first is actually third is still important, but it's third in order of preference for the the subject group we looked at. Gordon Stanley: Yeah. Paul Smith: Okay, um, now the fashion update which relates to very personal preferences among our subject group, um we found from our um consultants in Paris and Milan who des attended all the design and fashion fairs there, that fruit and vegetables are going to be the theme for clothes, shoes and furniture. So should we be thinking of using something like that in our remote control design too? There also seems to be um a trend towards a spongy feel to materials, uh again in contrast to last year. So a lot of interesting feedback there, both from our market research departments and from our people in Paris and Milan. Be interesting to see what our design people make of that. Paul Demmer: 'Kay. Gordon Stanley: Okay thank you very much. Um Paul Demmer: Yep. Gordon Stanley: let's start from the inside and work our way out. Paul Demmer: Fine. John Byrd: Yeah, Paul Demmer: It's okay John Byrd: okay. Paul Demmer: with Paul Smith. Paul Smith: Unless anyone has any questions about that? Not Gordon Stanley: I Paul Smith: yet? Gordon Stanley: don't think so, not Paul Smith: 'Kay. Gordon Stanley: yet. Um, yes, thank you. John Byrd: That screwed Paul Smith: Okay. John Byrd: in? Gordon Stanley: I hate those little things John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: especially if you do them on too tight and you can't get the leverage on them to undo Paul Smith: I know. Gordon Stanley: them. John Byrd: 'Kay, Gordon Stanley: Okay. John Byrd: Okay. Um this is uh all about the design of the actual components and the availability of the components we have in stock at the moment. Okay, first uh the Into the method. The the main idea of the whole thing is just so you sh you just press buttons and it should activate things on the T_V_ and we discussed last meeting that it should be easy to find. Um also in this study I've looked into the availability of some of the materials, 'cause some of the things that we looked at last time aren't un unfortunately aren't available. Gordon Stanley: 'Kay. John Byrd: Um, findings, I've got my nice little picture there. This is uh the chip called the T_A_ double one eight three five which is what's used in pretty much every remote control 'cause it sends out standard signals, based on your input and um it's pretty much used for all all T_V_ Gordon Stanley: 'Kay. John Byrd: remotes at the moment. Um and then we we're loo looking into battery options. There's um actually no rechargeable option available, so we I saw the um the standard double A_ and triple A_ which we thought were a bit bit too bulky at the moment, dynamo charging, I thought that that might be a bit silly to be Gordon Stanley: Wa John Byrd: to be honest, Gordon Stanley: can you explain John Byrd: people won't Gordon Stanley: that? John Byrd: it's it's basically Gordon Stanley: Like a John Byrd: like wind-up radio. Gordon Stanley: right, okay. John Byrd: So you wind up your remote control before you use it. Gordon Stanley: How what John Byrd: It Gordon Stanley: kind John Byrd: might Gordon Stanley: of how l long can you get out of that, I mean can you John Byrd: You Gordon Stanley: pick it up and then wind it for two minutes and then that's it for the night? John Byrd: Yeah, Gordon Stanley: Or John Byrd: yeah, oh yeah I presu you wouldn't have to wind it for very long, but I don't I don't think it's really sort of necessary when you th you think of the next two options, like the the solar charging, 'cause most people have the light on in the room anyway so they could get Gordon Stanley: That John Byrd: when Gordon Stanley: doesn't count though John Byrd: when Paul Smith: Does Gordon Stanley: does John Byrd: you Paul Smith: does John Byrd: got Gordon Stanley: it? Paul Smith: light John Byrd: T_V_. Paul Smith: charge as as sunlight Gordon Stanley: I thought Paul Smith: does? Gordon Stanley: it was Paul Smith: Artificial Gordon Stanley: U_V_ John Byrd: No. Paul Smith: light? John Byrd: Is Gordon Stanley: like John Byrd: it? Alright i Paul Smith: Has to be solar. Gordon Stanley: Any, any Paul Demmer: Yep. Regarding those sizes, which one you think will be light because we we have to take into consideration size also, so maybe a standard triple A_ might take lesser space or and dynamo might take more John Byrd: Yeah Paul Demmer: space. John Byrd: it would the d yeah the dynamo would take more space 'cause you actually need a physical sort of handle to wind up. Gordon Stanley: I'm pretty sure that solar is from the sun. John Byrd: Yeah, Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: okay. Gordon Stanley: Uh, I don't think it counts Paul Smith: Artificial Gordon Stanley: electric Paul Smith: light, Gordon Stanley: lights Paul Smith: no. Gordon Stanley: no, but I mean Paul Smith: That's Gordon Stanley: not Paul Smith: going to Gordon Stanley: many you don't want to limit your market. I mean people who live in basement flats there's not that many people, Paul Smith: I know, different Gordon Stanley: but Paul Demmer: Uh Gordon Stanley: there John Byrd: But Paul Smith: parts Gordon Stanley: are Paul Smith: of the world Gordon Stanley: people. Paul Smith: too, if we're if we're marketing internationally. John Byrd: Yeah and most Paul Demmer: Right. John Byrd: people most people also watch T_V_ in the in the Paul Demmer: Night. John Byrd: night anyway. Gordon Stanley: Mm, but then it would be charging through the day, I think the point is that it charges through the day and then you've got it charged John Byrd: But Gordon Stanley: for John Byrd: I Gordon Stanley: the John Byrd: I think Gordon Stanley: evening. John Byrd: I think the the next one's the best Gordon Stanley: Okay. John Byrd: anyway. The the kinetic charging which is like you get it in r you get it in wrist watches Gordon Stanley: Yeah I've John Byrd: and Gordon Stanley: seen John Byrd: you d you don't even notice it. I mean the amount the amount of probably moving around you'd be doing all the time would would charge it up, I don't think you'd ever need to actually physically start shaking it up to make it work. Paul Demmer: And are these like uh what are the life of the kinetic battery, it like it runs for long time? John Byrd: Um yeah it's it charges into um some form of it's a smaller cell Paul Demmer: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: which it charges into and uh the si the size sort of a watch a watch battery, 'cause they use them quite frequently Paul Demmer: Okay. John Byrd: in watches. And that'll that would l would last for um well I do I d I'm not entirely sure how long it would last but I've never seen one run out. Gordon Stanley: But then Paul Demmer: We c Gordon Stanley: if you think about a watch, it's on your wrist so it's on your whole bod it's on your body the whole time John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: so you're walking around, you're doing things, it is moving a lot of the time. John Byrd: Yeah Gordon Stanley: If John Byrd: and Gordon Stanley: you'd I mean you switch the T_V_ on, then you put it on the side, then Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: you pick it up to change it and then you put it on the side. John Byrd: Yeah but then Gordon Stanley: Is John Byrd: again Gordon Stanley: it really gonna be enough? John Byrd: I I think it is because if you think about it, the watch, although it's only a tiny amount it's it's um it's always moving for the whole day and they don't run out over night when you leave them on the side. Gordon Stanley: Okay. John Byrd: And th for the same the same reason, you're only using it for a v incredibly short amount of time just to send the signal and then you're finished with it Paul Smith: Hmm. Gordon Stanley: So it's John Byrd: and Gordon Stanley: not John Byrd: you Gordon Stanley: the John Byrd: put Gordon Stanley: draw John Byrd: it Gordon Stanley: on it isn't Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: no no I do I don't Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: think the Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Smith: Could John Byrd: the Paul Smith: I John Byrd: draw Paul Smith: just John Byrd: on it Paul Smith: ask John Byrd: would be Paul Smith: referring back to solar charging, is that John Byrd: Mm. Paul Smith: compatible with um standard batteries? I mean, could people put standard batteries in but with a s you know they could leave it in the sunlight for solar charging John Byrd: Ye Paul Smith: or the two things not compatible? John Byrd: yeah I think Gordon Stanley: Like a John Byrd: I Gordon Stanley: dual John Byrd: th uh g y Gordon Stanley: kind John Byrd: you Gordon Stanley: of. John Byrd: could have a dual um power thing but the the thing with the solar cells is you would need to put them on the case and they because, if you lie on a calculator they Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: they're qui they're quite big and they all they all look i identical. Paul Smith: So that affects Paul Demmer: Solar Paul Smith: the exterior Paul Demmer: would be Paul Smith: design. Gordon Stanley: Expensive Paul Demmer: slightly Gordon Stanley: as Paul Demmer: expensives. Gordon Stanley: well. John Byrd: They're they're Gordon Stanley: What John Byrd: expensive, Gordon Stanley: kind of price John Byrd: they don't Gordon Stanley: are we looking at for I presume Paul Demmer: It's Gordon Stanley: the Paul Demmer: twelve Gordon Stanley: normal Paul Demmer: point f Gordon Stanley: batteries are the cheapest? John Byrd: Yeah the normal batteries would be the cheapest I'd presume then it would actually be the the solar charging ones, um but the It's i I think they're not very resistant to dropping, 'cause if you Gordon Stanley: Solar. John Byrd: drop stuff yeah if you if you have Gordon Stanley: Well they're John Byrd: y Gordon Stanley: not designed John Byrd: the size you'd need to charge a remote wouldn't be that big but I mean if remotes always get thrown around and stuff, so. Y Gordon Stanley: Practical-wise John Byrd: I think yeah, Gordon Stanley: okay. John Byrd: practically. I mean calculators you don't really throw around a lot whereas remotes you do, they Gordon Stanley: You John Byrd: can Gordon Stanley: do get John Byrd: t Gordon Stanley: a bit of wear but don't calculators have a battery in them John Byrd: Yeah Gordon Stanley: as John Byrd: they Gordon Stanley: well? John Byrd: do, they yeah they've got dual things, Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: but they're Gordon Stanley: Mm. John Byrd: the batteries are smaller I think. Paul Demmer: Another Paul Smith: Again Paul Demmer: question Paul Smith: it de Paul Demmer: is like sorry. W w which one would last the longest, because we don't want customers to be like you know charging like a mobile phone every day. John Byrd: Mm. Paul Demmer: A remote John Byrd: W Paul Demmer: control, like, so Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: m yeah so Paul Demmer: we John Byrd: the Paul Demmer: have to s look at the life also. John Byrd: Yeah the the s if you if you had something du uh using the standard batteries and the solar charging, um, I don't think you'd I think the it would d well you know how long the standard double A_s would last in or Paul Smith: It would John Byrd: triple Paul Smith: just detract John Byrd: A_s would last. Paul Smith: from the attractiveness of the of the whole feature, John Byrd: Yeah Paul Smith: i it's John Byrd: I think Paul Smith: not gonna John Byrd: i I Paul Smith: add John Byrd: think Paul Smith: anything, John Byrd: it would, Paul Smith: okay. John Byrd: yeah. Gordon Stanley: Okay, can we add in uh an attachment to closing feature? Paul Demmer: Okay. Gordon Stanley: Can we think about that? 'Cause if we're doing the kinetic thing John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: and Paul Smith: Shouldn't we do some Gordon Stanley: it's Paul Smith: market research on that first before we add it in because I I personally Gordon Stanley: Well add it in to think about Paul Smith: right, okay. Gordon Stanley: um because, where am I? If it is the kinetic thing and it is small and it is portable and it is a different shape John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: and the kinetic is something people don't do kind of we're doing something original and different um but if you wore it if it's something you could just clip on your pocket then you would have that less, you you wouldn't lose it John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: so much. But then maybe John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: that's looking at someone who's just sitting on their own rather than the eternal battle for control of the controls. Paul Smith: It's not something that's come up in any of our uh focus groups and market research, Gordon Stanley: No. Paul Smith: it's not a thing that people are looking for Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Smith: when we threw it open Paul Demmer: So Paul Smith: to the field yeah. John Byrd: Okay. Paul Smith: But it's something to put on the side to think about maybe. Gordon Stanley: Okay, right. John Byrd: Okay, well I'll move on. Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: Um, my second part of my findings uh the mo most current remotes use this silicone uh P_C_B_ board which pr printed circuit board, has these contacts that are really close together and then when you press down on the rubber button, it'll connect the circuit and each each switch is connected to two uh different legs on the chip and so sends a different message and that then uh gets translated by the chip into a code and then it's fired out of this L_E_D_ in the sequence of l on and off bursts. Gordon Stanley: What kind of things do we have to consider there? Can we what kind of size, does it come in varying sizes or is it just one size John Byrd: Well Gordon Stanley: and we would have to fit the John Byrd: well Gordon Stanley: design John Byrd: this Gordon Stanley: of John Byrd: the thi the thing about is um they they can be as big or as small as you want them to be because you can you can print circuit board like that that it's it's simply spaced like that so you can have fit the n the size of the nine buttons in. If you if you see how thin the tracks are, Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: you could you could s you could put them virtually right next to each other and have a much smaller switch on each one, if Gordon Stanley: Okay. John Byrd: you if you wanted to but um the there is an option to do to do it like that, or you could have some sort of array of switches which I'll speak about in the next bit Gordon Stanley: Okay. John Byrd: so that And then to uh yeah, so to conserve battery life the remote should be in a standby mode no while not being used. Now what I was thinking about that was 'cause sometimes when y when you have these things, they've got little lights on behind the buttons, so you can see what all the buttons are, like on a mobile phone, they Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: do it more Paul Demmer: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: often than on a than on a T_V_ remote, but you could you could have lights behind the buttons and um after like five or ten seconds of not being used I'd have that turned off, if we decided to go for buttons that could light up. Paul Demmer: Okay. John Byrd: Um, the case material, I've a been sent what the factory can actually give us, the there's the plastic which I think we were gonna go for anyway as the main case Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: case housing and the the main problems with the well you could go for wood but I think it would be a bit impractical. Titanium um very expensive just to process, which Gordon Stanley: Mm. John Byrd: to make it is expensive, and rubber, well you're saying that people like this uh spongy feel this Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: year, so perhaps uh some something made of rubber, but I was thinking more of the buttons, because the buttons which they've they've said that they've they've put across are what is used in some stress ball manufacture Paul Smith: Okay. John Byrd: and it's meant to be anti R_S_I_. Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: I'm no I'm not sure how that would work because surely your fingers would still be moving over the short distances but that's what they said. Um the problem with the casing is that uh there's quite um there's quite a few design restrictions that they've got on the shape of the case. If you go for titanium they can only do a standard box shape, whereas if you come to plastic they can they can be a little more they can they can do sort of curved shapes. But whether whether or not because we'd have it in two separate units Paul Demmer: Second John Byrd: for Gordon Stanley: Hinged, Paul Demmer: thing John Byrd: the flip Paul Demmer: is John Byrd: phone. Gordon Stanley: yeah. Paul Demmer: yeah and second question is like, a mobile you can change the cover, John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: you call it a skin or whatever. So in this case if you're looking at like a customer can change the colour like from green, parrot Paul Smith: Mm. Paul Demmer: green to chilli red or something like that. John Byrd: Yeah I th Paul Demmer: So is that feature available in like uh titanium, or it's John Byrd: Uh. Paul Demmer: like only specific to plastic John Byrd: Yeah Paul Demmer: or John Byrd: in in titanium I don't I don't think it would be available at all really, Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: the ju just it w well you could make it available in the titanium, it was just it would be so expensive to buy a new case for it, Paul Demmer: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: because of the expense of how much titanium is is it's light and strong but I think it should be left for aircraft design rather than for Paul Smith: It does John Byrd: for Paul Smith: mark John Byrd: a remote. Paul Smith: quite easily too if you let it fall. I've got a mobile phone myself which is titanium and it does John Byrd: Yeah, Paul Smith: mark very easily John Byrd: yeah. Paul Smith: if you drop it. I was just wondering if we make the basic mould out of plastic but have like a rubber cover that goes John Byrd: Rubber, Paul Smith: over, John Byrd: yeah. Paul Smith: that would give the spongy feel, that also allows us to kind of have different fasciae John Byrd: And you can Paul Smith: for John Byrd: peel Paul Smith: the phone. John Byrd: them off yeah. Gordon Stanley: So Paul Demmer: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: instead of the fascia that comes off being plastic, the fascia that comes Paul Smith: Like Gordon Stanley: off Paul Smith: a rubber Gordon Stanley: would Paul Smith: sleeve Gordon Stanley: be the rubber, Paul Smith: almost, yeah. John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: Something Gordon Stanley: like those Paul Demmer: like Gordon Stanley: pens that you get with the grip, John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Smith: Mm. Paul Demmer: Alright. Gordon Stanley: that you can Paul Demmer: That Gordon Stanley: you can Paul Demmer: could Gordon Stanley: pull Paul Demmer: be a good Gordon Stanley: that Paul Demmer: idea. Gordon Stanley: off. Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: Hmm. Paul Demmer: It Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Demmer: could it would be comfortable to hold on also. Gordon Stanley: Mm. Paul Smith: Very John Byrd: T Paul Smith: cheap way of changing the look of it and people can just buy a new one John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Smith: if they want to. Gordon Stanley: Well that's been really popular with mobile phones so I don't Paul Smith: Mm. Gordon Stanley: see why not. Paul Smith: Yeah. John Byrd: Also the Gordon Stanley: 'Kay. John Byrd: just just going back to the interface designs with the buttons, the I kno we were planning to do some sort of touch Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: screen. Now what I was saying before about instead of having you could have just a bare P_C_B_ circuit board and I'm sure you could probably get it in different colours and so just by touching it with your finger it'd make the connection over if you had them close enough, that would be one option. Um the second option th they offer rubber buttons, but I thought that an L_C_D_ type of screen 'cause one they're incredibly thin um and don't take up much space, two they you can have them in a sort of array and you can arrange the buttons on the screen in a sort of set thing and you could have them like a touch Paul Demmer: Sorry I didn't John Byrd: display. Paul Demmer: get the last part, you're talking of John Byrd: Uh what what Paul Demmer: Just what you said I I didn't get the uh meaning of it completely, you're saying John Byrd: Oh Paul Demmer: like John Byrd: on the on the L_C_D_ screen Paul Demmer: Uh-huh. John Byrd: you could becau you could fit it the problem with it basically is that it's flat and so you can't do lots of curve Paul Demmer: Okay. Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: curved things with it, but um you can you wouldn't have with the L_C_D_ you'd have the wires coming off, you wouldn't have that with the with the L_C_D_, you'd only have that with the printed Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: circuit board. With W Paul Smith: I John Byrd: also Paul Smith: don't s John Byrd: with Paul Smith: sorry John Byrd: the Paul Smith: to interrupt, I don't see why the curved thing is a problem, if we for example had a shell, John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: Oh Paul Smith: once Gordon Stanley: it would be Paul Smith: we Gordon Stanley: flat Paul Smith: open that Gordon Stanley: inside. Paul Smith: yeah, so John Byrd: You Paul Smith: it'd John Byrd: could Paul Smith: be John Byrd: have Paul Smith: f John Byrd: a Paul Smith: yeah, John Byrd: flat screen inside, Paul Smith: yeah. Gordon Stanley: Mm. John Byrd: yeah, Paul Smith: Have John Byrd: but I'm Paul Smith: I John Byrd: just Paul Smith: misunderstood John Byrd: wondering whether Paul Smith: you? John Byrd: we want an L_C_D_ screen inside. It wouldn't be like full colour, it would just be black and white, Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: but there'd be touch touch buttons, so you Paul Demmer: 'Kay. John Byrd: wouldn't be pressing down on 'em, w or we could have rubber buttons which are made of this material which is anti-R_S_I_. Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: I think it would be good to have a contrast between, if the whole thing is gonna John Byrd: Is Gordon Stanley: be John Byrd: rubber. Gordon Stanley: this rubber thing it would be good to open it up and see something quite fancy looking Paul Smith: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: inside. John Byrd: Mm. Gordon Stanley: I mean John Byrd: Yeah I hadn't I Gordon Stanley: Uh John Byrd: hadn't really thought of Paul Smith: I just John Byrd: that Paul Smith: had another idea, John Byrd: to be Paul Smith: I don't John Byrd: honest. Paul Smith: know if it helps with that, but just to do with the R_S_I_. Is it possible, just as an option, when we open it up, people can use their fingers to press the button, or we have inside like a small pointer thing John Byrd: Yeah Paul Smith: when John Byrd: you Paul Smith: people John Byrd: could, Paul Smith: want John Byrd: you Paul Smith: to. John Byrd: could have some sort of stylus Gordon Stanley: Like one John Byrd: that you Gordon Stanley: of John Byrd: could Gordon Stanley: the palm John Byrd: pull Gordon Stanley: pop John Byrd: out Gordon Stanley: thing. John Byrd: but Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: I I think they could get a bit easily lost, Paul Smith: Yeah. Paul Demmer: Absolutely, John Byrd: 'cause I had Paul Demmer: f Paul Smith: They're Gordon Stanley: It Paul Smith: easy Gordon Stanley: would have Paul Smith: to Gordon Stanley: to Paul Smith: replace Gordon Stanley: be attached. Paul Smith: as Paul Demmer: for Paul Smith: well, Paul Demmer: somebody who Paul Smith: cheap. Paul Demmer: very often, John Byrd: Hmm. Paul Demmer: if he would a person who switches channels very often or does use a particular function very often John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: will find it very irritating to use a John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Paul Demmer: and he might spoil the touch-pad very fast compared to a button like, John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: if Paul Smith: Mm. Paul Demmer: you keep punching with an pointer or whatever. John Byrd: Yeah Paul Smith: Yeah John Byrd: okay. Paul Smith: just a thought they wouldn't actually need one and they could use anything they've got, couldn't they? A pencil or a pen, so they wouldn't really need a Gordon Stanley: Okay, we'll talk about that so if you finish your and John Byrd: Yeah Gordon Stanley: we'll come John Byrd: that's Gordon Stanley: back to that. John Byrd: yeah that Gordon Stanley: That's John Byrd: that's Gordon Stanley: you, John Byrd: the end of m my Paul Demmer: And Gordon Stanley: right Paul Demmer: just one Gordon Stanley: okay. Paul Demmer: small question before like you are, regarding the circuit, since we are hav having a flip-top, we John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: can customise the two circuits for different type of buttons like we are keeping the standard buttons on the top and John Byrd: Uh Paul Demmer: the more John Byrd: yeah. Paul Demmer: complex buttons under this thing, so we can divide the circuit like you know. John Byrd: Yeah yeah that that would be fairly simple, I mean you'd Paul Demmer: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: you'd actually have two separate you'd Paul Demmer: Okay. John Byrd: have two separate circuit boards but they'd be joined by wires or Paul Demmer: Okay. John Byrd: like some cabling between them, Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: 'cause in the in the actual flip bit you'd have some linking. Paul Smith: another point while it occurs to Paul Smith, it kind of applies to both our designers here, so I'm not sure how it John Byrd: Mm. Paul Smith: would fit in. If we flip open, now you know how you've got some mirrors in nightclubs that are mirrors when you turn to them and you turn away and it gives like an advertising display, you seen those? Gordon Stanley: No. Paul Smith: And they kind of respond to the turn of your body. Is it possible that when we open our flip-top shell it's a little compact mirror and when you press a button it then goes onto the phone display th uh the remote control display thing. Gordon Stanley: We're John Byrd: Um. Gordon Stanley: marketing to guys as much as we are to women. Paul Smith: They don't look at themselves? Just a thought. Gordon Stanley: Well it's a remote control, you were sitting watching T_V_ Paul Smith: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: are you gonna want to sort of open it and say Paul Smith: I Gordon Stanley: oh Paul Smith: know what Gordon Stanley: shit Paul Smith: you mean, Gordon Stanley: I should Paul Smith: it's Gordon Stanley: go Paul Smith: with Gordon Stanley: and Paul Smith: us Gordon Stanley: have Paul Smith: using Gordon Stanley: a Paul Smith: the ideas Gordon Stanley: shower Paul Smith: for a mobile Gordon Stanley: and Paul Smith: ph Gordon Stanley: do my hair before I put the T_ Paul Smith: it's with us using the ideas for mobile phones I kinda got Gordon Stanley: Yeah, Paul Smith: sidetracked Gordon Stanley: no, Paul Smith: onto that I think, okay. Gordon Stanley: no. Paul Smith: trying to think of other features we can build in that wouldn't cost too much Gordon Stanley: Mm. Paul Smith: but maybe we'll leave that one on the side. John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Smith: 'Kay. Gordon Stanley: Okay. John Byrd: I mean you can you could do it, you could have a 'cause if you if you just put the full charge through an L_C_D_ display it'll completely blank it out, Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: but I don't know if you could get any mirror effect on it, Paul Smith: Oh I think John Byrd: I'm not sure Paul Smith: forget John Byrd: about Paul Smith: about the mirror that was just a very quick passing thought yeah. Gordon Stanley: Okay, okay. Paul Demmer: Okay, uh would like to share something which I did here. First thing is uh basically on design we just took the input from the previous meeting, especially from the marketing and industrial design, to check on the customer needs and feasibility. Second is we checked into competitors, the picture here shows one of the standard models offered by competitors here. So y you generally see there's not much of variety Gordon Stanley: Mm. Paul Demmer: and like marketing team said uh, people need trendy, they are bored of black and white. So John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: you generally see rectangular shape, very monotonous kind of designs here. And uh second thing is there's too much of confusion here. Gordon Stanley: Mm. Paul Demmer: No particular remote is standard. Like, some some people have a Here you see this? This is on a I I I found th that uh only common feature is the ch uh channel control and uh volume control, rest other buttons, they are in a very disorganized and they are not consistent th with other models and all. Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Demmer: Okay, and second as already discussed with William, we are going to have m maybe a G_ G_U_I_ interface in the John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: f in the middle of the flip-top Paul Smith: Sorry what Paul Demmer: and Paul Smith: does that Gordon Stanley: Which Paul Smith: stand Gordon Stanley: means Paul Demmer: g Paul Smith: for? Paul Demmer: graphic user interface basically Paul Smith: Okay. Paul Demmer: which is what we d do in computer, have John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: icons or touch pad or whatever, which John Byrd: If Paul Demmer: is John Byrd: you if yeah if you have like buttons that appear on the screen in this L_C_D_ screen. Paul Demmer: Like you have on a l uh icons or something y you have is a good example of G_U_I_ graphic user interface. John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Demmer: So basically not point or click Press any particular device, he just has to click on that particular icon Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Demmer: to simplify. And on the top m repetitive buttons which are like volume or channel changing and all could be on the pointing device, that means the use of button. So he need not use a pointer to keep changing the channel if a person is frequent surfer. Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. Paul Demmer: So we are having a combination of boards, so f on the s simpler board, on the top we have this button, rubber buttons, to keep frequently changing the channels. Gordon Stanley: Can we swap that round so th that the ones that we use all the time are on the bottom part? 'Cause if you're thinking about holding it you would be using your thumbs to press, just like a mobile phone. John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Smith: No you'd hold it you don't if you flip it open then you'd be Wouldn't you? Isn't that the idea? You us if we just use the shell as an example Gordon Stanley: Yeah. Paul Smith: again, you open that, you've got your L_C_D_ display there and you've got the buttons there so you're holding John Byrd: Yeah, Paul Smith: it in Gordon Stanley: That's Paul Smith: the palm Gordon Stanley: what Paul Smith: of your Gordon Stanley: I was Paul Smith: hand, John Byrd: yeah Gordon Stanley: just saying, Paul Smith: yeah. John Byrd: but you Gordon Stanley: and Paul Demmer: But John Byrd: can Gordon Stanley: then John Byrd: do Gordon Stanley: have John Byrd: it with your Gordon Stanley: the John Byrd: thumb li Gordon Stanley: and then have the L_C_D_ at the top Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Paul Demmer: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: and then be able to touch that for the Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: other Paul Demmer: Okay Gordon Stanley: controls, Paul Demmer: and you mean to Gordon Stanley: so Paul Demmer: the Gordon Stanley: have the um the volume and the programme, things like that, Paul Demmer: And the lower distance. Gordon Stanley: on the lower Paul Demmer: Oh f Gordon Stanley: side. Paul Demmer: perfect. Paul Smith: Hmm. Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Demmer: So the findings are too many cluttered buttons. Repetition of certain but buttons which I already explained, example the volume and channel control buttons. All are confusing and in inconsistent. Okay we had a latest finding of voice recognition, there was a mail which mentions that our division has developed a new speech recognition s feature. We have to check into the for financial f feasibility whether we can incorporate it this at a low cost, but for like we had g um s response from the customers that they would like to have the feature of finding John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: it. So it could be like, where is the remote, and the remote answers I am here. John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: Some kind of thing or it gives a b bleep sound or some kind of sound Paul Smith: Mm. Paul Demmer: this can be incorporated this would be more uh you can say trendy also? And technologically innovative also. John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: So we we can check into the financial feasibility of incorporating this. My personal preferences would be like, as already uh marketing department, they want something to do with fruit so I wouldn't say the design should be like a fruit, but yeah we can take inspiration from fruit colours, like the vibrant colours, Paul Smith: Mm. Paul Demmer: uh red chilli John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: uh tomato red or whatever and second thing is cer certain standard buttons we should have, like for example, i if you see the previous slide uh John Byrd: Well, yeah we Paul Demmer: I think most of the users would now be well acquainted with this cer central pattern, here, John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: so we we we would not change h that particular pattern because i this is the most consistent thing in all remote controls. Gordon Stanley: I can't see that, is that play and stop and things? Paul Demmer: This is central one, the one you Gordon Stanley: Or is that volume and Paul Demmer: yeah volume and Gordon Stanley: channel? Paul Demmer: channel. So keep that m that standardised because that's the most common feature across all models, if you look at all the models, it's here. This and voice recognition. Gordon Stanley: Okay. Right. Okay. Um I'm not sure how long we've got left, but we need to make a decision about um the things we've discussed. So, we agree on Do we agree on the battery? Paul Smith: Kinetic? Paul Demmer: The kinetic. Gordon Stanley: Yeah. John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: Um, that means that there's no function for li the port, you know that it sits in, then pressing John Byrd: Mm. Gordon Stanley: the button then having so we could incorporate voice recognition John Byrd: Yeah Gordon Stanley: for the John Byrd: I Gordon Stanley: finding John Byrd: think Gordon Stanley: it. John Byrd: I mean Gordon Stanley: It's John Byrd: if Gordon Stanley: a bi i it's like a g it's a gadget, it's a John Byrd: Yeah it is it is Gordon Stanley: selling John Byrd: qui Gordon Stanley: point. John Byrd: it's quite a cool feature to have and also if they've got it if they've got these parts already in stock, Paul Demmer: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: then it won't be cheap to re-manufacture them, uh or it will be cheap sorry to re-manufacture them. So do you reckon that's a good idea that, where's the remote, I'm here thing? I think that would be quite Paul Smith: Mm. John Byrd: fun. Gordon Stanley: I think the only I think the only pitfall that we would have would be how much it's going to cost John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: if that means we have to cut down somewhere else, but I think pretty much we've used cheap John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: relatively cheap and Paul Smith: Mm. Gordon Stanley: simple things. John Byrd: Yeah Gordon Stanley: The John Byrd: to Gordon Stanley: L_C_D_'s John Byrd: s Gordon Stanley: not cheap. John Byrd: th well Paul Smith: Hmm. John Byrd: it's it's not as expensive as it would be if it was full colour 'cause if we've just got a black and white one, I mean they use them in calculators so. Gordon Stanley: Yeah, okay. Paul Demmer: Maybe we could start with the black and white. John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: That Gordon Stanley: And you Paul Demmer: that Gordon Stanley: could Paul Demmer: way we could Gordon Stanley: yeah. Paul Demmer: upgrade later. Paul Smith: Yeah, Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Smith: we talked about Paul Demmer: Mm. Paul Smith: kinetic charging, we've deci seem to have decided on that, did we decide on double A_ or triple A_ batteries? Paul Demmer: Mm. John Byrd: Well you cou um. Gordon Stanley: Do you want like a back-up? Paul Smith: No, one of the decisions we had to make was whether we had double A_ or triple A_ batteries 'cause they've still got to be charged this way haven't John Byrd: K no the Paul Smith: they? John Byrd: kinetic Paul Smith: I John Byrd: ones Paul Smith: oh I John Byrd: come Paul Smith: see. John Byrd: come with um a sort of w watch a battery that goes in a watch. Paul Smith: Right, okay, got you. John Byrd: So it's a lot smaller, so it would Paul Smith: Got you on that okay, didn't realise. Gordon Stanley: Um, okay so we've got battery. The inside components is pretty standardised across the board isn't it? John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: So there's not a really a decision to be made there, um. The buttons what did you give us as our The bare-board L_C_D_ John Byrd: Yeah Gordon Stanley: or John Byrd: the well I think were we're going for the L_C_D_ on that one, on the buttons, on the on the on on the top one Gordon Stanley: On John Byrd: we're Gordon Stanley: the top John Byrd: gonna Gordon Stanley: one okay you've got the touch John Byrd: yeah. Gordon Stanley: okay and then John Byrd: On the bottom we were gonna have the rubber, the rubber ones, the anti-R_S_I_ ones. Gordon Stanley: Okay, okay. Paul Smith: Sorry could you repeat that last part? John Byrd: Um, okay on Paul Smith: L_C_D_ John Byrd: we've got the flip Paul Smith: screen. John Byrd: the flip-screen, Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. John Byrd: the top one is gonna be the L_C_D_ and the bottom one is gonna be the rubberised buttons. Paul Smith: Okay. Paul Demmer: And for the sorry. Gordon Stanley: No, it's fine. Paul Demmer: For the body design I think plastic, John Byrd: Plastic, Paul Demmer: uh w yeah John Byrd: okay. Paul Demmer: we could Gordon Stanley: For Paul Demmer: use Gordon Stanley: the Paul Demmer: the Gordon Stanley: inside. Paul Demmer: body, for the inside and John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: uh rubber as a padding or for the grip, something like to add to the design. Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. Paul Smith: Mm-hmm, so we decided on a rubber casing for the plastic shell, Paul Demmer: Plast right. Paul Smith: a variety Gordon Stanley: Oh I think Paul Smith: of designs, Gordon Stanley: so, I Paul Smith: okay. Gordon Stanley: think so. Paul Smith: and it is just uh although it's rubberised and spongy, apart from that we're just going to go for sort of vegetable and fruit colours, we're not gonna try and make it actually a vegetable or fruit design or anything else, John Byrd: Mm Paul Smith: like John Byrd: no. Paul Smith: a shell that we discussed, Gordon Stanley: No Paul Smith: just Gordon Stanley: I think Paul Smith: go for the colours. Gordon Stanley: I Paul Demmer: It's Gordon Stanley: we don't wanna be tacky if we've got Paul Smith: Okay. Gordon Stanley: a kind of different shape anyway um the fact the m the material that we would be using would be cheap, so we could make it red, we could make it um psychedelic, you know, we could make Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: it black and white zebra stripes, but that's not really what we're focusing on, what we're focusing on is the m you know Paul Smith: The feel. Gordon Stanley: yes. So we could Paul Smith: 'Kay. Gordon Stanley: just pick anything. Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Is that going to be this image I've got in my head of something kind of shaped like that, maybe about that size, made of plastic, fits into the palm of the hand, rubberised cover that's spongy. Is that really going to fit fancy look and feel which was the major thing that people wanted, market research, is that Gordon Stanley: It's Paul Smith: fancy? Paul Demmer: Uh Gordon Stanley: just Paul Demmer: I Gordon Stanley: different Paul Demmer: it's different. Gordon Stanley: it's just different from everything else and I mean, I'm trying to imagine um clean looking Paul Smith: Mm. Gordon Stanley: houses, sort of beige and black Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: um so you either want something that goes with that, which is what's Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: on the market anyway, Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: or you want something that contrasts as John Byrd: Mm. Gordon Stanley: you know like you get clocks now that Paul Smith: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: are more of a talking point than an actual clock Paul Smith: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: because they're so interesting Paul Smith: I'm just kind of pushing Gordon Stanley: and Paul Smith: at that to see if you came out with anything else, but I mean I totally agree. We looked at those remotes, I mean they are kind of anonymous, very similar looking things. Gordon Stanley: Mm. Paul Smith: This would definitely be different enough, I just wondered if anybody could come up with something even more Gordon Stanley: And you would just have an across the b you would have so many different options that you could do, you could have um a plain black one, you could have sparkly pink glittery Paul Smith: Well the thing Gordon Stanley: ones Paul Smith: is the rubberised Gordon Stanley: for your little Paul Smith: covers are going to be s relatively cheap to produce, that if in a year's time we we get feedback from the design fairs that show something else is coming I mean it's so easy for us Gordon Stanley: Mm. Paul Smith: to just produce that and it can be slipped on, Gordon Stanley: And Paul Demmer: Right. Gordon Stanley: ones Paul Smith: which is another Gordon Stanley: tha Paul Smith: beauty of it. Gordon Stanley: ones that have rubbery spikes y you know, John Byrd: You Gordon Stanley: you John Byrd: can Gordon Stanley: could just John Byrd: you can Gordon Stanley: go John Byrd: just Gordon Stanley: so Paul Demmer: Acupressure, Gordon Stanley: far Paul Demmer: you Gordon Stanley: with John Byrd: Yeah. Paul Demmer: could Gordon Stanley: it, Paul Demmer: talk of acupressures. Gordon Stanley: like a puffer fish, you could just, you could take it wherever, so I think that's quite a John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: flexible Paul Demmer: And finally Gordon Stanley: thing. Paul Demmer: the body should be retouchable, may maybe ch you can change the body or the case casing the case outside, Gordon Stanley: Yes. Paul Demmer: it should be moulded it with the design in such a way you can change it every time. John Byrd: Yeah, yeah j with these rubber these rubberised ca not Gordon Stanley: Mm. John Byrd: the actual uh plastic outside Paul Demmer: Okay. John Byrd: case, just the rubber Paul Demmer: The rubber. Gordon Stanley: Yeah. John Byrd: thing that goes round the outside. Gordon Stanley: Okay we've got five minutes, um, or that might've been up Paul Smith: Mm, Gordon Stanley: for Paul Demmer: Fine. Gordon Stanley: a while. Paul Smith: so can I just recap uh Sarah, Paul Demmer: Yeah. Paul Smith: for the decisions that we've made, kinetic charging, the watch-type batteries, um L_C_D_ display on th the top side of the flip top, rubberised buttons on the bottom side, we're gonna use fruit and vegetable colours for the rubber cover, the case itself is plastic. That's how far we've got, what else do we have to add to our decisions here? Paul Demmer: Fine, uh we were talking of voice recognition also Paul Smith: Mm. Gordon Stanley: Mm-hmm. Paul Demmer: because that we are not for how to look it uh remote control if it's lost. So, Paul Smith: Yes, Paul Demmer: are Paul Smith: it was Paul Demmer: we Paul Smith: just, Paul Demmer: looking Paul Smith: there was Paul Demmer: at Paul Smith: just Paul Demmer: voice? Paul Smith: a cost issue with that, but it's a good idea we just need to check on the cost, Paul Demmer: Or Paul Smith: is Paul Demmer: maybe Paul Smith: that right? Paul Demmer: like uh William was suggesting in the last thing some devices you put on key chains. For John Byrd: Oh Paul Demmer: l John Byrd: yeah, yeah Paul Demmer: yeah, John Byrd: the whistle ones, yeah. Paul Demmer: the whistle. So we can if financially voice recognition is not feasible we could go for a whistle. Paul Smith: And incorporating the company logo? Paul Demmer: Yep. Gordon Stanley: Have you Paul Demmer: Uh sorry I didn't mention this, but we'll be incorporating in the design. Paul Smith: Mm. 'Cause Gordon Stanley: Okay. Paul Smith: I took it from the feedback you gave in the last meeting from y from y your report, it's not just a case of having a little R_R_ hidden somewhere, they do want it to be obvious that it's our product don't Gordon Stanley: Well they Paul Smith: they? Gordon Stanley: do, but I think we can Paul Smith: Since it's Gordon Stanley: you Paul Smith: the only Gordon Stanley: could Paul Smith: one of its kind on the market Gordon Stanley: well Paul Smith: it's obviously Gordon Stanley: it is, Paul Smith: gonna Gordon Stanley: it Paul Smith: be ours. Gordon Stanley: is, I think you just address that with um advertising. Paul Smith: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: Um, you associate the name with the individual product John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: that it is Paul Smith: Okay. Gordon Stanley: and that does the work for you. Obviously it'll have a logo on it just like everything, but everything else has a logo on it. The point is that it's got to stand out somehow differently Paul Smith: Okay. Gordon Stanley: but I think it does, without that so I'm not worried about that. Paul Smith: Okay. Did we I know at the last meeting we spoke about a beeper, I think that was you talked about a beeper for a location, have we just rejected that in favour of voice recognition then? Gordon Stanley: Depending on how i John Byrd: Yeah, depending on the expense of it. Gordon Stanley: I mean we've got this memo saying that it's something that the company's looking into, so John Byrd: And they've got in stock, so yeah. Gordon Stanley: um that seems to make sense, but if it turns out that it's hugely expensive we'd have to cut down somewhere else, then it's worth thinking about. But I think we'll find out more about cost John Byrd: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: afterwards. Right John Byrd: Okay. Gordon Stanley: I'm going to wrap it up there. Paul Demmer: Fine. Gordon Stanley: I got a end meeting now message on my Paul Demmer: Mm-hmm. Gordon Stanley: mo John Byrd: Did it? Gordon Stanley: yeah Paul Demmer: Yeah. Gordon Stanley: so. Paul Demmer: Again Gordon Stanley: Um Paul Demmer: a questionnaire huh? Gordon Stanley: so I think we've probably got it Paul Smith: You Gordon Stanley: says, Paul Smith: got to go through. Gordon Stanley: closing we have forty minutes so I um think we've probably got about that time before we come back. It's either that or we only had forty minutes to discuss what we just discussed and don't know how long that took. Paul Demmer: I think we are pretty going in a clear direction now. Gordon Stanley: Is everyone happy? Okay.

Gordon Stanley reviewed the decisions from the previous meeting. Paul Smith made a presentation on trend watching, including trends in user requirements and trends in fashion. John Byrd presented all the components of the device and announced that several of the features already discussed would not be available. He suggested substituting a kinetic battery for the rechargeable batteries and using a combination of rubber and plastic for the materials. Paul Demmer presented his main interface design, which included buttons for the most frequently used features and a graphic user interface on the LCD screen for other functions, to keep frequently used features easy to use. He announced that speech recognition was still an option to consider, depending on price. Gordon Stanley then began a discussion to decide what was going into the final design. It was decided that a kinetic battery would be used in place of a rechargeable battery, that the remote will feature an LCD screen and rubber casing and rubber buttons, and that interchangeable rubber covers in fruit colors will be available. Speech recognition may be included if it is not too costly.

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Tommy Hackworth: If you leave them on the whole time you get to look like a noodle the whole time. Terence Goins: Hmm. Erik Arguello: Is that someone's? Tommy Hackworth: Is that. Terence Goins: Thank you. Tommy Hackworth: three, apparently. Terence Goins: Hmm. Hmm. Tommy Hackworth: Okay, you all Erik Arguello: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: switched on. Terence Goins: Yep Erik Arguello too. Tommy Hackworth: I presume we're good to go. Okay, um minutes um we decided to use a kinetic charger, Terence Goins: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: standard chip, um 'cause it can come in various different sizes, it wasn't uh uh gonna be a problem factor. We wanted a stand-by function. The case material is gonna be soft, rubbery, changeable. Um buttons with a combination of L_C_D_ and rubber according to the design. Um bright funky designs inspired by fruit, keeping with the hip kind of feel. Um and to try and incorporate voice recognition software into our design until we can find out more about the cost of things like that. Um and the rubber buttons that we'll use will be anti-R_S_I_. Okay? Prototype presentation. Ricky Bacich: Is that for us? Tommy Hackworth: I think Terence Goins: Yep. Tommy Hackworth: that would be you. Ricky Bacich: Okay. Terence Goins: Erik Arguello and William worked on a prototype, and I think William is going to make a p presentation on that. Ricky Bacich: Yeah shall, I show? Terence Goins: Yeah. Ricky Bacich: I'll show. Though do you do you wanna Tommy Hackworth: Make Ricky Bacich: do you Tommy Hackworth: sure Ricky Bacich: wanna Tommy Hackworth: the Terence Goins: I Ricky Bacich: sh Tommy Hackworth: camera's Terence Goins: can hold it like Ricky Bacich: do you wanna hold it and I'll Terence Goins: Yeah, Ricky Bacich: I'll Terence Goins: so Ricky Bacich: show you the presentation. Can I just nick Tommy Hackworth: Yes, Ricky Bacich: your Tommy Hackworth: yes you can. Wait a second, I'll get it out. Ricky Bacich: Whoa. Terence Goins: It Tommy Hackworth: Um Terence Goins: looks Ricky Bacich: Going a bit crazy over here. Terence Goins: crazy. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Ricky Bacich: Thank you. Tommy Hackworth: You Terence Goins: Um not now. Tommy Hackworth: should have one of Terence Goins: Oh. Tommy Hackworth: those things and you can just take it off. Terence Goins: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Ta-da. Terence Goins: Oh, where are the hinges? Ricky Bacich: Okay, so this is Tommy Hackworth: Right. Ricky Bacich: our look and feel presentation, Tommy Hackworth: Mm Ricky Bacich: the Tommy Hackworth: 'kay. Ricky Bacich: final our final presentation. And we'll first look at the exterior of what we've uh come up with over there. Um Terence Goins: 'Kay. Ricky Bacich: It's Terence Goins: You able Ricky Bacich: have Terence Goins: to look? Ricky Bacich: a a plastic body Terence Goins: Yep. Ricky Bacich: um with a sort of standard colour, either we're thinking some something fairly neutral like a a white or a light blue or something. This is underneath the rubberised Tommy Hackworth: Mm-hmm. Ricky Bacich: the rubberised uh outer casing um which there'd be sort of a wide choice they would be attached, but we can we can come up with that. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Ricky Bacich: Um the um wide choice of colours and sort of patterns, so you've got you've got a lot of customisation with it. Um it's obviously an a sort of clam-shell design and uh the um the top L_C_D_ screen that you can see that would b would be sort of um how do you say, Terence Goins: The Ricky Bacich: it's Terence Goins: black and white touch screen Ricky Bacich: yeah Terence Goins: wherein Ricky Bacich: yeah, it would Terence Goins: people Ricky Bacich: be sort Terence Goins: can Ricky Bacich: of inset into the into Tommy Hackworth: Mm. Ricky Bacich: the top Tommy Hackworth: So Ricky Bacich: and Tommy Hackworth: it's Ricky Bacich: the Tommy Hackworth: flush. Ricky Bacich: buttons at the bottom Terence Goins: Right. Ricky Bacich: would d so so it'll fully close flat. Tommy Hackworth: Oh right, okay, Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Tommy Hackworth: yeah. Ricky Bacich: yeah. And working on the inside we've um already said d decided on the kinetic batteries, which actually, thinking about it now, could y could also probably attach to the flipping open and shut as well, so that you could probably get Tommy Hackworth: So Ricky Bacich: a Tommy Hackworth: put Ricky Bacich: bit Tommy Hackworth: it Ricky Bacich: of Tommy Hackworth: in the top section rather than the bottom sections, Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: 'cause Terence Goins: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: it's the top Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: part that's okay. Ricky Bacich: Um we decided that um the voice recognition system, it did actually say on the email that they were sort of coming in and they were fairly easy to get a-hold of, so we presumed that they'd also be quite cheap. So you'd have something like where you'd shout out, where where is the remote and it'll shout back, I'm here, or something. And Erik Arguello: Or something. Ricky Bacich: then yeah. It wo it won't shout out I'm here or something. It'll just shout out I'm here, Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Terence Goins: 'Kay. Ricky Bacich: or something Tommy Hackworth: I'm under Ricky Bacich: to Tommy Hackworth: the sofa. Ricky Bacich: similar effect. Terence Goins: Ah Tommy Hackworth: Or, that would be too complicated. Terence Goins: oka Ricky Bacich: Uh yeah, if it was going like I d well tha that could be something for next time, maybe. You can have a remote that tells you exactly where it is. Um the standard, there's be a standard transmission with the T_V_ using using all the standard chips that we've talked about. Tommy Hackworth: Infrared. Ricky Bacich: Um it would it would have obviously 'cause it's split over two two different layers, it would need two separate P_C_B_s, so it would be joined at the hinge through some sort of cabling. And uh because, obviously, all T_V_s use this, the same infrared medium, we'd just be using using the same thing to transmit the data. And the infrared um sender would be on the on one of the bot the bottom layer, just at the front of the we haven't I don't think we actually Tommy Hackworth: Like Ricky Bacich: put it on. Tommy Hackworth: here. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, yeah, something like that. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Terence Goins: Infrared could be Tommy Hackworth: Actually, Terence Goins: here Tommy Hackworth: no, Terence Goins: also. Tommy Hackworth: it would be it would have to Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Tommy Hackworth: be on Ricky Bacich: on Tommy Hackworth: the Terence Goins: Yeah, Ricky Bacich: the front Terence Goins: here. Ricky Bacich: on the Tommy Hackworth: on Ricky Bacich: front Tommy Hackworth: the front. Ricky Bacich: side of that, yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Oh right, yeah, okay, Terence Goins: So when Tommy Hackworth: yeah, Terence Goins: it's Tommy Hackworth: I've got Terence Goins: even Tommy Hackworth: you. Terence Goins: if it's open here, the Tommy Hackworth: It's Terence Goins: signals Ricky Bacich: So Tommy Hackworth: still Ricky Bacich: when Terence Goins: would Tommy Hackworth: pointing, Terence Goins: go. Ricky Bacich: you've actually got Tommy Hackworth: yes. Ricky Bacich: it open, it would be Terence Goins: Yeah. Ricky Bacich: facing the T_V_. Tommy Hackworth: Yeah, that would make sense. Ricky Bacich: And then finally um on to the interface. The top screen, as we said, is would be an inset um black and white L_C_D_ s touch screen which Terence Goins: This one right here. Ricky Bacich: yeah would uh have all of all of the the available functions for for the remote on it, uh whereas the bot the bottom screen would just contain the standard buttons, like the vo volume up and down, channel up and down, power on and off, Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Ricky Bacich: and uh things to that effect. And now we've we also decided on the inside, we could possibly either have um some some kind of sort of bezzled uh logo on it, or something inset, or maybe an engraving of the logo on the top. Terence Goins: Which Tommy Hackworth: But Terence Goins: is Tommy Hackworth: not interfering with Ricky Bacich: No Tommy Hackworth: the Ricky Bacich: d Tommy Hackworth: outside Ricky Bacich: not Tommy Hackworth: kind Terence Goins: No. Ricky Bacich: not Tommy Hackworth: of Ricky Bacich: actually. Tommy Hackworth: look of the product Ricky Bacich: No, Tommy Hackworth: once Ricky Bacich: not Tommy Hackworth: it's Ricky Bacich: uh interfering with l the whole look of Terence Goins: Look up Ricky Bacich: the Terence Goins: to it. Ricky Bacich: the Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Ricky Bacich: product when it's uh on the thing. And finally that's how we put the fashion back into electronics, as Tommy Hackworth: Thank Ricky Bacich: that Tommy Hackworth: you Ricky Bacich: is Tommy Hackworth: very much. Ricky Bacich: that's Terence Goins: Yay. Ricky Bacich: the company logo. Tommy Hackworth: Wrapping it all up, Erik Arguello: Well done. Tommy Hackworth: okay. Um I've now got evaluation criteria. Erik Arguello: Certainly. Terence Goins: So this is the one. Sorry. Tommy Hackworth: It's to be presented. Ricky Bacich: There Erik Arguello: Logged in? Thank you. Ricky Bacich: you go. Erik Arguello: Oops. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Terence Goins: Evaluation. Terence Goins: Mm um I I think this is chip. Tommy Hackworth: It's quite similar to what it was before, though. Erik Arguello: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: Sorry. Erik Arguello: This stage of the evaluation is really for us as a team to evaluate if we have now got a product specification and prototype design that meets the the criteria that we got from our market research. So this is the first stage of the evaluation. Now, the collection of the criteria, as we saw in our meeting, was based on the user requirements and trends found in the marketing reports and marketing strategy of our company. So it's what we've discussed in the last meeting, are we actually meeting those trends and requirements? Now the findings that we came up with, just a recap, are here. The criteria that we want in this remote control are a fancy look and feel, technological innovation, it should be easy to use, it should incorporate current fashion trends, and those the two main ones, they were the spongy texture Terence Goins: Mm-hmm. Erik Arguello: and the fruit and vegetable strong design colours. The design should minimise R_S_I_ and be easy to locate and we were still um uh slightly ambivalent as to whether to use voice recognition there, though that did seem to be the favoured strategy, but there was also, on the sideline, the though of maybe having a beeper function. Okay, so we can come back to that slide, if you don't have a note of those. I'll just show you how we're going to evaluate our own feedback to this, to what we have so far. We're going to use a seven point scale, where one is true and seven is false. We look at each of those criteria that I've just mentioned, I'll call that slide back up, and I will just Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: do a preliminary rating of all those criteria on the whiteboard here. Terence Goins: Mm-hmm. Erik Arguello: Does that seem clear? Any questions there? Terence Goins: Ah, it's perfect. Erik Arguello: So we're going to look at these Terence Goins: Is it Erik Arguello: crite Terence Goins: everybody is going to evaluate, or just the Erik Arguello: Yes, Terence Goins: Market okay. Erik Arguello: we're going to come to w we'll discuss each one Tommy Hackworth: Mm-hmm. Erik Arguello: and we'll come to a consensus rating between one and seven. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Erik Arguello: Is that okay? Terence Goins: 'Kay. Erik Arguello: One is true, seven is false. Right. So I won't write all of that out again. It will just be criteria one, two, three, four, five, six, or A_, B_, C_, D_, E_, F_ to confuse it with the number rating. B_, C_, D_, E_, F_. This is where I realise how tiny I actually am. Tommy Hackworth: Just write small. Erik Arguello: Criteria and rating. Actually, it might be an idea, if we each did give our own individual rating, and we could take an average at the end. How about that? Tommy Hackworth: Yeah. Terence Goins: Yeah, Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Terence Goins: so Ricky Bacich: okay. Terence Goins: you Tommy Hackworth: That Terence Goins: can Erik Arguello: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: works. Erik Arguello: So I'll just separate the ratings by obliques, and if we go one, two, three, four, we know who's who. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Mm-hmm. Erik Arguello: Okay. Criteria A_, the fancy look and feel. How do we feel about this prototype model relating to fancy it is a fancy look and feel. One is true, seven is false. My own rating for that would be a two. One is true and seven is false. Tommy Hackworth: I would agree. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Erik Arguello: I'll just Ricky Bacich: I'd Erik Arguello: go Ricky Bacich: uh Erik Arguello: this way. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Ricky Bacich: yeah I'd Terence Goins: 'Kay. Ricky Bacich: probably put it uh two yeah, two Erik Arguello: Two. Ricky Bacich: or three. No, three. Three. Erik Arguello: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: I would say two. Erik Arguello: Two. Terence Goins: I would say four. Erik Arguello: A four, okay. Terence Goins: Mm-hmm. Erik Arguello: Adding those up, we've got a six and a five, eleven divided by four is what? Uh two and three quarters, Ricky Bacich: Mm Erik Arguello: it that Ricky Bacich: yeah. Terence Goins: Almost Erik Arguello: right. Terence Goins: three. Erik Arguello: Two and three quarters? Terence Goins: I think yeah. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, yeah. Erik Arguello: Okay. Two point seven five, there we go. Okay, criteria B_, criterion B_, technologically innovative. I would give that a three. Ricky Bacich: I'd give it a one. Erik Arguello: Okay. Not that you're biased Ricky Bacich: No, no, Erik Arguello: in Ricky Bacich: not Erik Arguello: that Ricky Bacich: at Erik Arguello: it Ricky Bacich: all. Erik Arguello: the designer. Tommy Hackworth: A two. Terence Goins: Oh sorry, I I got it wrong. The first one rating, I'm sorry. Can you just make it two? Erik Arguello: The average Terence Goins: The first. Erik Arguello: oh, Terence Goins: Yeah, Erik Arguello: for you? Terence Goins: I I just it Erik Arguello: You Terence Goins: the Erik Arguello: want Terence Goins: other Erik Arguello: your Terence Goins: way. Erik Arguello: rating to be a two? Terence Goins: Uh in Erik Arguello: Is that what you're saying? Terence Goins: Yep, I just Erik Arguello: Okay. Terence Goins: got Erik Arguello: So, I'll work out the average for that again at the end. It's a very slightly altered Okay, and we're just Terence Goins: two Erik Arguello: waiting Terence Goins: point f Erik Arguello: for your Tommy Hackworth: It's Erik Arguello: rating Tommy Hackworth: just two Erik Arguello: f Tommy Hackworth: point five for that one. Erik Arguello: Two Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: point five, okay. Losing one decimal place, Terence Goins: One is Erik Arguello: that's Terence Goins: a, Erik Arguello: okay. Terence Goins: seven is false, okay. Erik Arguello: So what are you rating for this one, Paw? Terence Goins: Two. Erik Arguello: Two, okay. So that is eight. That brings it down to two, nice Ricky Bacich: Two. Erik Arguello: and simple, yeah. Okay, ease of use. Easy to use? Based on what you've said there, I would say a one, true. Ricky Bacich: Two. Erik Arguello: Two. Tommy Hackworth: I would say a two. Erik Arguello: A two, okay. Tommy Hackworth: I would say a two. Terence Goins: Two. Erik Arguello: Two. I should've said a two to make the arithmetic easy, shouldn't I? We'll just put almost two, because Tommy Hackworth: One Erik Arguello: I'm not Tommy Hackworth: point Erik Arguello: gonna get Tommy Hackworth: seven Erik Arguello: into silly decimal Tommy Hackworth: f five. Erik Arguello: places. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Okay, Erik Arguello: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: mm-hmm. Erik Arguello: Or we or if we want to really bring it down, we can do later. Um Ricky Bacich: D_. Erik Arguello: mm now we're looking at it incorporates current fashion trends, now that's particularly Ricky Bacich: One. Erik Arguello: in relation to our market research findings about the spongy texture to the exterior and the fruit and vegetable design colours. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: Right. So I'm just thinking, before I give it my rating, you were limited in the use of materials for your prototype here. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Erik Arguello: Is this Ricky Bacich: that's Erik Arguello: actually going to be the colours that you Ricky Bacich: No, Erik Arguello: would use? Ricky Bacich: no, the the base colour was um Terence Goins: White. With Ricky Bacich: white Terence Goins: for the plastic? Ricky Bacich: or or Terence Goins: Uh Ricky Bacich: like Terence Goins: blue. Ricky Bacich: or l sort of a light blue, but Erik Arguello: Right. Ricky Bacich: the changeable fa faces would uh allow you to get any basically Terence Goins: Any Ricky Bacich: any one of a number of colours that uh Erik Arguello: So Ricky Bacich: th it's Erik Arguello: we could Ricky Bacich: full Erik Arguello: use Ricky Bacich: sort Erik Arguello: any Ricky Bacich: of customised. Erik Arguello: strong fruit and veg colours and that's what Terence Goins: Right. Erik Arguello: we're Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Erik Arguello: intending to do. Tommy Hackworth: Mm-hmm. Ricky Bacich: yeah, Terence Goins: Mm-hmm. Ricky Bacich: yeah Erik Arguello: Okay. And the Ricky Bacich: and Erik Arguello: spongy feel is no problem with that. Ricky Bacich: No, Terence Goins: Yeah, Ricky Bacich: no, Terence Goins: because Ricky Bacich: 'cause Terence Goins: you'll Ricky Bacich: th Terence Goins: be Ricky Bacich: that's Terence Goins: having a Ricky Bacich: that's the the spongy feel would be Terence Goins: Because Ricky Bacich: in Terence Goins: of the Ricky Bacich: the Terence Goins: rubber Ricky Bacich: rubber Terence Goins: case. Ricky Bacich: that you put round it, that Erik Arguello: Okay. Ricky Bacich: otherwise it's just sort of hard plastic. Erik Arguello: to be a one for Erik Arguello. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, I'll give it a one as well. Erik Arguello: Yep. Everybody? Tommy Hackworth: One. Erik Arguello: Okay. Terence Goins: One. Erik Arguello: That part was nice and easy. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Terence Goins: Mm. Erik Arguello: Okay. Uh moving on to does the design minimise repetitive strain injury. I Ricky Bacich: Mm. Erik Arguello: don't think we've really touched on that Ricky Bacich: No. Erik Arguello: a lot. We've we've discussed it, we haven't really come up with anything that we felt could feasibly reduce that. We've talked about pointers, but the very use of a remote control, if you're someone who's zapping, who's sitting Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: like that, and we found so many people did, how do you minimise that on such a small device? Tommy Hackworth: Well the type of button that we're gonna use in the bottom half, the material, minimises Erik Arguello: Mm-hmm. Ricky Bacich: to be. Tommy Hackworth: R_S_I_ it's meant to. Erik Arguello: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: Um maybe because it's slightl with the size that we've got it's quite small, but with the amount of stuff we're putting on it isn't that much. Erik Arguello: Mm. Tommy Hackworth: So maybe because there's more space, it's not kind of moving around trying to Erik Arguello: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: hit accurately the buttons in between. Erik Arguello: Right. Tommy Hackworth: It's quite obvious just big buttons. Erik Arguello: Right. Tommy Hackworth: Um Erik Arguello: I think I'm gonna have to be neutral on that and give it a four. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Yeah, I'd uh I'd f I'd go for a five, Erik Arguello: A Ricky Bacich: actually, Erik Arguello: five, okay. Ricky Bacich: 'cause Tommy Hackworth: Four. Erik Arguello: Four and Terence Goins: Four. Erik Arguello: a four okay. Twenty one is that twenty one? So that's four point two five. Ricky Bacich: Yep. Erik Arguello: And finally, last but not least, easy to locate. Now we talked about voice recognition, we talked about a beeper, have we really have the Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: designers come to any Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Erik Arguello: dec Ricky Bacich: it was Erik Arguello: real decision Ricky Bacich: it was Erik Arguello: on that? Ricky Bacich: uh a Terence Goins: Voice Ricky Bacich: voice Terence Goins: r recognition. Erik Arguello: It was the Ricky Bacich: voice Erik Arguello: I'm here Ricky Bacich: recognition, Erik Arguello: thing, yep. Ricky Bacich: yeah. Erik Arguello: And are we happy with the costs on that? That is going to Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Erik Arguello: be feasible, Ricky Bacich: yeah, that Erik Arguello: cost-wise. Ricky Bacich: yeah, that's feasible. Erik Arguello: That sounds good then. I'd go for a I ca we can adjust the volume on that, just as we could volume on T_V_. Ricky Bacich: Um I think Erik Arguello: So if sombody's Ricky Bacich: it would Erik Arguello: in the Ricky Bacich: r Erik Arguello: other room or if T_V_s in different rooms, or. Ricky Bacich: I think it would probably be a Tommy Hackworth: A standard. Ricky Bacich: a stand it would be a stand it would be quite loud. Tommy Hackworth: It would Erik Arguello: Right. Tommy Hackworth: be. Erik Arguello: Okay. Ricky Bacich: So it would be Erik Arguello: You Ricky Bacich: s Erik Arguello: built into Ricky Bacich: p Tommy Hackworth: And Erik Arguello: the Tommy Hackworth: if Erik Arguello: feature. Tommy Hackworth: you didn't Ricky Bacich: yeah. Tommy Hackworth: hear it in the room that you were standing in, then you'd realise that it wasn't in that room, Erik Arguello: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: you'd go into another Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: room. Erik Arguello: Logical. That's a one for Erik Arguello. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, one. Erik Arguello: One Tommy Hackworth: One. Erik Arguello: and one, good. Ricky Bacich: I do realise that we might be being fairly biased, 'cause it is our product, but Erik Arguello: So, how do we feel about this? We've got our our we've got the highest rating of meeting the specifications that is definitely true for two of the uh six criteria there. That is for um incorporates current fashion trends and is easy to locate. The lowest rating we've got, which is really n it's not terribly low, i it's close around neutral is for uh the minimisation of repetitive strain injury. Do we feel on the basis of tha of these evaluation findings that we can go ahead and now produce this as a prototype and market it, or do we have to make further modifications? Tommy Hackworth: I don't think so. Ricky Bacich: W I thin yeah, Erik Arguello: We happy Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: to Ricky Bacich: think Erik Arguello: go ahead? Tommy Hackworth: I think we yeah. Ricky Bacich: yeah. Tommy Hackworth: I Erik Arguello: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: think we're set. Erik Arguello: I think for most of those ratings that it's high enough at the upper end of the scale for us to go ahead with that, and I really doubt if on the basis of current technology and our current capabilities, we could actually do much Tommy Hackworth: Do Erik Arguello: more Tommy Hackworth: much Erik Arguello: to minimise Tommy Hackworth: apart from having Erik Arguello: that. Tommy Hackworth: a Ricky Bacich: Mm. Tommy Hackworth: huge big Erik Arguello: I know. Okay. Well, I hope that's uh clear to the team. Is there anything you would like to to ask Erik Arguello about the findings before I sum up? Tommy Hackworth: Don't think Ricky Bacich: No. Tommy Hackworth: so. Erik Arguello: Good. Fine then. I'll just leave it there. Oops. Tommy Hackworth: Okay, thank you. Terence Goins: Hmm. Tommy Hackworth: Okay, I've got finance here now. I'm gonna plug this in so you can all see it, if that's okay. Um. Erik Arguello: Oh yes. Terence Goins: You want Erik Arguello to b unplug that? Terence Goins: That's all. Yes. Tommy Hackworth: Thanks. Tommy Hackworth: Right. Terence Goins: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: Now I presume that the screen will go blank, that um Okay. We just type numbers into this and we come out with the final value. So are we still on for kinetic? Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: Yes. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. See, it woulda been handy to have this at the beginning. Um it might have influenced our choice. Right, what's happening with the electronics? Ricky Bacich: It was a regular chip Terence Goins: Chip Ricky Bacich: on Terence Goins: on print. Ricky Bacich: print and Tommy Hackworth: Double-curved. Ricky Bacich: Oh, no, no, no, the um Yeah, it's you you've put in three for the number of kinetic cells, there should just be one. In the top, it's the number of c Tommy Hackworth: Oh, Ricky Bacich: yeah. Tommy Hackworth: right, okay. Thanks. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, and Tommy Hackworth: So, would there be two? Ricky Bacich: yeah, just a no, one reg v uh Tommy Hackworth: One chip. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, one of them and one sample sensor and sample speaker. Terence Goins: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Terence Goins: Yep. Ricky Bacich: And they're double curved. No. Y Terence Goins: Single-curved. Tommy Hackworth: One double curve. Ricky Bacich: Two, 'cause it's Terence Goins: Two Ricky Bacich: two. Terence Goins: curves, yeah. Erik Arguello: But it has a slightly flattened bottom so it can sit. So it Tommy Hackworth: So Erik Arguello: can Tommy Hackworth: what's Erik Arguello: rest. Tommy Hackworth: a single curve then? Ricky Bacich: Yeah, I'd say I'd say Erik Arguello: It Ricky Bacich: it Erik Arguello: would Ricky Bacich: was Erik Arguello: just Ricky Bacich: w Erik Arguello: be a flat bottom Ricky Bacich: yeah, Erik Arguello: with Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: one Ricky Bacich: think Erik Arguello: curve. like Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: a domed Ricky Bacich: think Erik Arguello: thing. Ricky Bacich: it's Tommy Hackworth: So Terence Goins: Single-cu. Tommy Hackworth: just one double Erik Arguello: Mm. Ricky Bacich: One double-curved. Tommy Hackworth: Yeah. Ricky Bacich: And Tommy Hackworth: Um Ricky Bacich: one no, Terence Goins: Plastic Ricky Bacich: 'cause one Terence Goins: and rubber. Ricky Bacich: yeah, one's double-curved, and then Erik Arguello: The other Ricky Bacich: the Erik Arguello: curves Ricky Bacich: other one's Erik Arguello: at the sides, but it's slightly flattened at the bottom so it doesn't roll over. Tommy Hackworth: Mm. Erik Arguello: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Um Ricky Bacich: a plastic. Tommy Hackworth: we've got plastic and rubber, haven't we? Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Terence Goins: Yeah. Plastic one and Ricky Bacich: And Terence Goins: maybe Ricky Bacich: special Terence Goins: rubber point Ricky Bacich: colour. Terence Goins: five. No I think Tommy Hackworth: Um Terence Goins: rubber, since it's being used just as a casing, we can put point five. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Do you think? Terence Goins: Yeah, I think it allows the point five, yeah. We can use that. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Erik Arguello: What does it mean if you put point five for that? Terence Goins: It means we are not using a lot of rubber actually. We're using Tommy Hackworth: It would Terence Goins: just Tommy Hackworth: be like saying we're using Terence Goins: a very low quantity of rubber compared to plastic. Tommy Hackworth: See, it says case material. Erik Arguello: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: So we're not actually using plastic in the case, Ricky Bacich: No, Tommy Hackworth: are we? Ricky Bacich: no, that's it's as Tommy Hackworth: It's Ricky Bacich: an Tommy Hackworth: including, Ricky Bacich: extra. Tommy Hackworth: it's including. Erik Arguello: Right, okay. Ricky Bacich: So that shouldn't that shouldn't be actually on there, because that's not incorporated in the cost of the remote you get. Erik Arguello: But it is gonna be part of the total cost, and there's nowhere else we can we can put that in, is there? There's nowhere else we can code for the the rubber used in the casing. So do we not have to account for it in the cost somewhere there? Tommy Hackworth: Okay, we'll just put it in as we'll put in as half. Erik Arguello: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: Or sh we should just put it in as one, because the plastic is zero anyway. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Erik Arguello: Mm. Ricky Bacich: okay. Tommy Hackworth: No, we don't step on anyone's toes. Okay, special colour, do we need that? Erik Arguello: Might do, if we go for some of the more exotic Tommy Hackworth: N yeah, Erik Arguello: aubergines Tommy Hackworth: okay. Erik Arguello: and such like colours. Tommy Hackworth: Interface. Terence Goins: Push-button. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, the push-button's Terence Goins: One. Ricky Bacich: one and L_C_ Terence Goins: An Ricky Bacich: display one. Terence Goins: One. Ricky Bacich: And buttons Tommy Hackworth: Buttons Erik Arguello: S Terence Goins: I think we could change the battery also. Instead of going for kinetic how about going for a standard battery. Erik Arguello: Has that not made any d if you click off that square now, has that not made any difference? Ricky Bacich: Well Erik Arguello: Is it Tommy Hackworth: Has Erik Arguello: oh, Ricky Bacich: yes. Erik Arguello: it's Tommy Hackworth: that Erik Arguello: brought Tommy Hackworth: not Erik Arguello: it Tommy Hackworth: gone Erik Arguello: slightly Tommy Hackworth: up? Oh no, Erik Arguello: down. Tommy Hackworth: it was seven five it's changed not Erik Arguello: So Tommy Hackworth: a Erik Arguello: is Tommy Hackworth: lot. Erik Arguello: is uncurved completely and just actually making the rubber case the curved thing, is Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: that going to make a difference? Terence Goins: Uncurved, flat. Erik Arguello: Oh, it's not made any difference, has it?. Ricky Bacich: No, Erik Arguello: It's Terence Goins: No, Ricky Bacich: we'll Erik Arguello: gone up Ricky Bacich: have Erik Arguello: again. Terence Goins: it just Tommy Hackworth: Oh, it's Terence Goins: surprises Tommy Hackworth: not calculated Terence Goins: one. Ricky Bacich: No, no, Tommy Hackworth: it. Ricky Bacich: you've got Erik Arguello: Oh. Ricky Bacich: to click off to calculate it again. Tommy Hackworth: Okay, there we go. Erik Arguello: It's brought it down slightly. Ricky Bacich: C Tommy Hackworth: It's Ricky Bacich: it Tommy Hackworth: not Ricky Bacich: might Tommy Hackworth: a lot though. Ricky Bacich: uh you might you might be assuming that that is in Euros. It could be in Dollars. And then it would be fine, because the exchange range would make it about twelve. Erik Arguello: Is Tommy Hackworth: We Erik Arguello: there Tommy Hackworth: haven't Erik Arguello: anything on Terence Goins: I Tommy Hackworth: been Terence Goins: don't Erik Arguello: the menu Tommy Hackworth: dealin Terence Goins: think so. Tommy Hackworth: we haven't been dealing with dollars Erik Arguello: No. Tommy Hackworth: though, I think Ricky Bacich: No. Terence Goins: Ri I think it's in Euro. Tommy Hackworth: Okay, so the highest we've got is the electronics here. Um Erik Arguello: If we Tommy Hackworth: and Erik Arguello: tr Tommy Hackworth: the Erik Arguello: um. Tommy Hackworth: interface. Erik Arguello: If we moved away from our much loved idea of a kinetic battery and just Terence Goins: And Erik Arguello: went Terence Goins: going Erik Arguello: with the Terence Goins: to Erik Arguello: standard Terence Goins: a regular bat Erik Arguello: batteries, would that make a huge difference? Ricky Bacich: Yeah, the Terence Goins: Yeah. Ricky Bacich: standard, it um it would make one difference. The biggest one would be taking away if you took away Terence Goins: What I feel is, customers never said Ricky Bacich: If you Terence Goins: anything Ricky Bacich: to Terence Goins: about the battery. It's internal, nobody looks into the battery. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Terence Goins: But shape and colours, Erik Arguello: And people are Terence Goins: that's Erik Arguello: used Terence Goins: something Ricky Bacich: If Erik Arguello: to buying Terence Goins: we Ricky Bacich: if Terence Goins: shouldn't Erik Arguello: batteries, Ricky Bacich: you take Terence Goins: comprimi Erik Arguello: they're not Ricky Bacich: away Erik Arguello: gonna Ricky Bacich: the Erik Arguello: say Ricky Bacich: voice, Erik Arguello: I'm not getting Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: this, 'cause Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: I've got Ricky Bacich: do Erik Arguello: to Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: buy Ricky Bacich: don't Erik Arguello: a Ricky Bacich: like Erik Arguello: battery Ricky Bacich: to say Erik Arguello: for a Ricky Bacich: it, Erik Arguello: remote Ricky Bacich: but if you Erik Arguello: control. Ricky Bacich: take away the voice recognition, then you've got it. Terence Goins: Where's that special form? Mm mm Erik Arguello: Should Terence Goins: mm. Erik Arguello: we see what difference it makes? Tommy Hackworth: Where's the Ricky Bacich: Yeah i yeah. No Tommy Hackworth: where's Ricky Bacich: 'cause Erik Arguello: Um Tommy Hackworth: the voice recognition? Ricky Bacich: it's samples sens sample speaker. Tommy Hackworth: Right, Ricky Bacich: If you Tommy Hackworth: okay. Ricky Bacich: took away that, that'll make it twelve point three five. Tommy Hackworth: Well the kinetic is three. If we change it to the battery it's that's Ricky Bacich: They Tommy Hackworth: minus three. Ricky Bacich: n n yeah, but you p minus three plus two. Tommy Hackworth: Oh, right. I keep seeing zero. Tommy Hackworth: it some other way, we can do it doesn't have to be voice recognition. We could do the voice recognition for, you know, business class or something, you Erik Arguello: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: know, like an upgraded version. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: Sure. Terence Goins: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: You could choose to have that Ricky Bacich: But they Tommy Hackworth: or not. Ricky Bacich: but I mean in I don't see why we have to sell it for twenty five Euros now, because they w they were saying they were quite willing to pay more for better product. Erik Arguello: But we're still working to Tommy Hackworth: So Erik Arguello: um Tommy Hackworth: should we just change the Erik Arguello: head Tommy Hackworth: design Erik Arguello: o Tommy Hackworth: specification then? Erik Arguello: We can put in our recommendations. Terence Goins: Make it Erik Arguello: If Terence Goins: costly. Erik Arguello: we if we're Tommy Hackworth: Yes. Erik Arguello: working to head office specifications as this is what this project team's working for, we can Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: put in our recommendations for what we've we've found and what we the consensus that we've come to as a result Tommy Hackworth: Mm-hmm. Erik Arguello: of Ricky Bacich: We Erik Arguello: the meetings. Ricky Bacich: c we could Erik Arguello: But we Ricky Bacich: s Erik Arguello: need to work to that specification to start with. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Tommy Hackworth: Mm-hmm. Erik Arguello: And Ricky Bacich: we Erik Arguello: I Ricky Bacich: could say Erik Arguello: think the voice recognition sounds wonderful, but our object is so distinctive that that in itself is gonna make it easier to locate as a f you know in a first instance. Um as you say, we can offer the voice recognition initially to business class customers and so Tommy Hackworth: Okay, we can Ricky Bacich: Yeah, I Tommy Hackworth: make Ricky Bacich: s Tommy Hackworth: the price fit, and then say if Ricky Bacich: And Tommy Hackworth: we'd Ricky Bacich: then say Tommy Hackworth: had Ricky Bacich: we Tommy Hackworth: our Ricky Bacich: recommend Tommy Hackworth: budget, we Erik Arguello: Mm. Tommy Hackworth: would've had this, Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: because it also sets it apart from Erik Arguello: 'Cause Tommy Hackworth: the crowd. Erik Arguello: we've done all the background work Tommy Hackworth: They like Erik Arguello: to go Tommy Hackworth: their Erik Arguello: for Tommy Hackworth: gadgets, Erik Arguello: that if they want Tommy Hackworth: they like Erik Arguello: it. Tommy Hackworth: something that's completely different. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: It's Erik Arguello: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: s something completely different associated with your company. Right, okay, so Erik Arguello: So if we take voice recognition out Ricky Bacich: That'll do it. Twelve point three Terence Goins: Yeah Ricky Bacich: five. Terence Goins: we are close Erik Arguello: we are. Terence Goins: to the budget. Ricky Bacich: Is it twelve point fif Terence Goins: Two Tommy Hackworth: It's Terence Goins: five. Ricky Bacich: was it twelve Tommy Hackworth: two Ricky Bacich: point Tommy Hackworth: point Ricky Bacich: fifty? Tommy Hackworth: five. No, it's twelve point two five. Erik Arguello: Are you sure? Sorry, not meaning to doubt your words Tommy Hackworth: Yeah well two, Erik Arguello: there. Tommy Hackworth: twelve point two five times two is Erik Arguello: Right. Tommy Hackworth: twenty five, Erik Arguello: Are they Tommy Hackworth: isn't Erik Arguello: really Terence Goins: It's Tommy Hackworth: it? Erik Arguello: going Terence Goins: twelve Erik Arguello: to quibble Terence Goins: point five Erik Arguello: about Terence Goins: maybe, Erik Arguello: ten Terence Goins: then. Erik Arguello: P_? Or point zero one of a Euro? Which is less than ten P_. Terence Goins: I don't know what it said fifty percent of the cost. So Tommy Hackworth: I think Terence Goins: half of Tommy Hackworth: the agenda Terence Goins: the price would Tommy Hackworth: one Terence Goins: be Tommy Hackworth: was where the um price was, wasn't it? No. Terence Goins: I think it is the first one. Erik Arguello: That's today's kick off meeting, Tommy Hackworth: Twelve point five. Erik Arguello: Mm. Ricky Bacich: Ah. Terence Goins: So we Erik Arguello: I Terence Goins: are under Erik Arguello: thought Terence Goins: the Erik Arguello: that's Terence Goins: budget. Erik Arguello: what it was. Tommy Hackworth: Well done, people. Erik Arguello: So we're okay. Ricky Bacich: Okay. Tommy Hackworth: So is that uh got us covered for the electronics then? We don't need Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: something else to take that place? Ricky Bacich: No. Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Ricky Bacich: 'Cause that that was just a bought-on extra, you could just take that out and that would be fine, Tommy Hackworth: Okay. Ricky Bacich: yeah. Terence Goins: Seems fine. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, I think that's brilliant. Terence Goins: Except voice recognition, everything is Tommy Hackworth: Right, so we've done that. Okay. Product evaluation. We've done room for creativity, haven't we? Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Because Terence Goins: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: we've got decisions that we would have made that we weren't didn't feel able to make. Um I presume we discussed leadership and teamwork. Terence Goins: Mm-hmm. Ricky Bacich: Yes. Terence Goins: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: um in the sense that um did you feel like a team? Or did you feel like uh Ricky Bacich: Yeah, I'd say, as a team. Erik Arguello: Although we had our separate Terence Goins: I think Tommy Hackworth: autonomy? Terence Goins: we Erik Arguello: tasks, Terence Goins: had a nice time. Erik Arguello: there was Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: so much interaction, so much that we needed to um Ricky Bacich: Find out Erik Arguello: bounce Ricky Bacich: from Erik Arguello: off Ricky Bacich: each other, Erik Arguello: each Ricky Bacich: yeah. Erik Arguello: other. And I've certainly felt heard, listened to in that in relevant areas we've been able to, you know, give and take and adjust our remit Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Mm-hmm. Erik Arguello: where necessary. Terence Goins: Yeah, I think there was uh very constructive feedback by everybody. It's not like people trying to cut each other. There is more of uh true cohesive teamwork. We came to a very predic creative design, yeah. Yeah, and uh Yeah, I think. And Sarah, you coordinated the work very well. Tommy Hackworth: Thank you. How did you find it? Ricky Bacich: Yeah, no, I thought it it went really well and I yeah, I I feel that everyone was listened to and all the points that were raised seem to have been sorted out, although we didn't quite make the voice recognition in there, but that's that's good. Tommy Hackworth: Yeah. Ricky Bacich: I think it would have made it into the final product if it was actually if if if we'd seen the marketing before the initial specification was put out, I think maybe it would've come out a d little different, but Tommy Hackworth: Yeah. Ricky Bacich: yeah. Tommy Hackworth: I liked the fact that we could say an idea and it'd be suggested that that wasn't the best idea, but no one felt like shot down, Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Terence Goins: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: you know, y it didn't matter it saying what you thought, because if it wasn't something that was that relevant, then it didn't matter, 'cause it was just another idea in the field. Ricky Bacich: Mm. Tommy Hackworth: I like that. Erik Arguello: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Um teamwork. Well you two created that wonderful specimen of a Play-Doh model. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, well. Terence Goins: I Tommy Hackworth: Um Terence Goins: think that was the best part of the Tommy Hackworth: uh I'm still not caught up. But that's nothing to do with the teamwork at all. Um Erik Arguello: Maybe we should think of branching out into children's toys and Tommy Hackworth: Maybe. Erik Arguello: fake mobile phones as a side line. And fake Terence Goins: 'Kay. Erik Arguello: R_C_s. Tommy Hackworth: No, that was quite fun. Um means, whiteboard, digital pens, etcetera, what does that mean? Any Erik Arguello: How do Tommy Hackworth: ideas? Erik Arguello: we evaluate Ricky Bacich: Discuss Erik Arguello: the materials Ricky Bacich: which ones Erik Arguello: we had for communicating Ricky Bacich: yeah. Erik Arguello: and sharing information? Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: Could it've been better, was it adequate? Ricky Bacich: Yeah, I think I think we probably woulda used the outer email system more, had we actually Tommy Hackworth: Had time to kind of Erik Arguello: Mm. Ricky Bacich: had had more time and if we'd been separated more. Tommy Hackworth: Yeah, 'cause we could just sort of say, Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: sorry what did you say about that or what do you think about that, Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: rather than having to email it, yeah. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: But it was nice having it there. Um like the whole picture of the thing. Terence Goins: Yeah, moving around the room. Erik Arguello: Yeah. Terence Goins: But I think it's good, like uh we spent times individually. Terence Goins: I never thought of a remote control with a flip top. Tommy Hackworth: Yeah, I think it's new Erik Arguello: It's Tommy Hackworth: ideas Erik Arguello: really borrowing Tommy Hackworth: in general, Erik Arguello: from Tommy Hackworth: rather Erik Arguello: other areas, Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: than Erik Arguello: it's, you know, bringing things from other areas in, it so it's I mean nothing is new, Tommy Hackworth: Mm. Erik Arguello: but it's applying it to a d in a different area. Ricky Bacich: Vegetables. Terence Goins: That's mine. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Yeah, no. Terence Goins: Yeah, it's Tommy Hackworth: Well they have to come from somewhere, don't Erik Arguello: Absolutely, Tommy Hackworth: they? Erik Arguello: yeah. Terence Goins: The thing Tommy Hackworth: And Terence Goins: is Tommy Hackworth: as sh as w sorry, you Terence Goins: Yep, sorry, go on Sarah. Tommy Hackworth: go. Um as was shown by your presentation with all of the other controls, remote controls, no one's thought about it Ricky Bacich: No. Tommy Hackworth: particularly. Erik Arguello: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: I mean they're slightly different, so if someone's been shut in the room and said make ours a bit different from everyone else's, 'cause it's Erik Arguello: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: w something we should think about, but obviously no one's put any Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Tommy Hackworth: great Ricky Bacich: I Tommy Hackworth: deal Ricky Bacich: do Tommy Hackworth: of thought into it. Ricky Bacich: I don't think the the companies are really concerned. They're just like we've got a D_V_D_ player, does anyone remember the remote control? Can't you get the one that we used for the last one? Yeah, Erik Arguello: Yeah. Ricky Bacich: just jazz it up a bit. Tommy Hackworth: Mm. Ricky Bacich: Uh Erik Arguello: Yeah. Ricky Bacich: d they don't really think about it, because normally, the remote control isn't the product which they're trying to ship. They're trying to ship Erik Arguello: Yeah, Ricky Bacich: the D_V_D_ Erik Arguello: the focus Ricky Bacich: player, Erik Arguello: isn't on Ricky Bacich: the video Erik Arguello: to that, Ricky Bacich: player, Erik Arguello: yeah. Tommy Hackworth: But then when Ricky Bacich: the T_V_. Tommy Hackworth: it everything is really smart, Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: and you've just got this big chunk of black Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: thing sitting on your coffee table, it doesn't go, I Ricky Bacich: No. Tommy Hackworth: mean if you could have something that's a proper funky Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: thing, a funky item that's individual, individual to you, I mean they could even go into um you go in with an idea and they design it on Photoshop and then they just get it printed on the plastic, Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: you would pray you would pay a lot extra, because it's individually being a plastic was being made for you. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: But people could have anything that they wanted. Ricky Bacich: Mm. Terence Goins: Surprising Tommy Hackworth: Because of the Terence Goins: to Tommy Hackworth: produ Terence Goins: Erik Arguello is like uh people give a lot of attention to modifying mobile phones, Tommy Hackworth: Mm. Terence Goins: like a real want to see a new launch or something like that. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Terence Goins: And new f television products coming up, but nobody giving uh much idea to this. Erik Arguello: I think Terence Goins: Like Sarah Erik Arguello: it's Terence Goins: was telling, Erik Arguello: really Terence Goins: everything's Erik Arguello: good that this has been very market research based, Terence Goins: Right. Erik Arguello: because just going back to mobile phones, I mean this is the first change in remote control devices that I can really, you know, say is is obvious and visible. We see it in mobile phones a lot, and tha that's where we've borrowed a lot of our ide our ideas from. There are innovations in that that people don't really want. Tommy Hackworth: Yes. Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Erik Arguello: I see people wanting a model of the phone they were really happy with, and they can't get it anymore Tommy Hackworth: Yeah. Erik Arguello: and it's innovation for innovation's sake, and I think it's wonderful our company's so R_ and D_ based. Tommy Hackworth: Well, it's Terence Goins: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: innovation for money's sake. The Erik Arguello: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: the people have to keep Erik Arguello: But Tommy Hackworth: buying. Erik Arguello: forcing it onto people, Tommy Hackworth: Yeah. Erik Arguello: yeah. It's things that, you know, they might want to buy the thing they Tommy Hackworth: And Erik Arguello: really Tommy Hackworth: you Erik Arguello: want. Tommy Hackworth: can't get you've got your handset that works fine, but you can't get the battery anymore Erik Arguello: Mm. Tommy Hackworth: for that type of phone, Erik Arguello: Mm. Tommy Hackworth: because the phones have moved on, things like Erik Arguello: Or Tommy Hackworth: that. Erik Arguello: there isn't a cover to fit it or Tommy Hackworth: Yes. Erik Arguello: whatever, yeah. Tommy Hackworth: It's madness. Um Erik Arguello: See I think Tommy Hackworth: In closing There we go. Um our costs are below budget with recommendations that they the budget be increased, but I think I don't know, d what do you think? Do you think that's takes into account um overheads like us being well paid kind of a thing? And the heating Ricky Bacich: Well. Tommy Hackworth: for the building, do you think our budget includes everything, all the costs that are going out? Erik Arguello: I think it was just the produc uh just Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: the Ricky Bacich: think Erik Arguello: production Ricky Bacich: that was just Erik Arguello: cost Ricky Bacich: the Erik Arguello: of the phone. Ricky Bacich: the physical. Tommy Hackworth: So it looks well it looks like it's gonna be fifty percent profit, you've Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: still got Erik Arguello: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: all of the overheads to come out of that. So Ricky Bacich: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: maybe increasing it, you would also have to increase the price that it's sold at. Terence Goins: Maybe Ricky Bacich: Yeah, Terence Goins: fifty Ricky Bacich: I Terence Goins: percent Tommy Hackworth: But Ricky Bacich: think Tommy Hackworth: I Terence Goins: more. Tommy Hackworth: think but you were saying that that's quite Ricky Bacich: yeah Erik Arguello: But Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: I Ricky Bacich: don't Erik Arguello: think in the remit Ricky Bacich: from Erik Arguello: that Ricky Bacich: the market Erik Arguello: we were given, Ricky Bacich: research. Erik Arguello: it was very specific. I think we've done what we were required to do, Tommy Hackworth: Hmm. Erik Arguello: and I think there'll have to be another project team or a new project for us to look at at those kind of things. I don't think that's something we have to look at Tommy Hackworth: Yeah. Erik Arguello: and Ricky Bacich: No. Erik Arguello: find a way of raising the cash for. Ricky Bacich: Yeah, it Erik Arguello: I Ricky Bacich: was Erik Arguello: think we've done very well to get within budget and Tommy Hackworth: Mm. Erik Arguello: it still makes such an innovative item Tommy Hackworth: Yeah. Erik Arguello: that I think people are really gonna want. Terence Goins: Yeah. Tommy Hackworth: It's a shame it won't ever get made. Erik Arguello: I know. Tommy Hackworth: Maybe Erik Arguello: Maybe Terence Goins: Who Tommy Hackworth: it Erik Arguello: it Terence Goins: knows? Erik Arguello: will. Tommy Hackworth: will. Erik Arguello: Maybe they are gonna steal Tommy Hackworth: Maybe Erik Arguello: our ideas Tommy Hackworth: someone'll Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: and Ricky Bacich: it's Erik Arguello: sell Tommy Hackworth: r Erik Arguello: it. Tommy Hackworth: run Ricky Bacich: top secret. Tommy Hackworth: down and patent it. Ricky Bacich: Um it's it is it's a conspiracy going on here. Tommy Hackworth: Um Ricky Bacich: That's what it is. Tommy Hackworth: the project has been evaluated well and truly. Terence Goins: Yeah. Erik Arguello: Mm-hmm. Tommy Hackworth: Um and we've got the meeting survey and questionnaire. Terence Goins: There's a final questionnaire. Tommy Hackworth: Oh, so we've got about fifty minutes to catch up with everything that I fell behind with, so I'll be delegating in my um Ricky Bacich: In Tommy Hackworth: role Ricky Bacich: your Tommy Hackworth: as Ricky Bacich: yeah. Tommy Hackworth: Project Supervisor, so good luck. Terence Goins: Celebration, you didn't talk about that. Tommy Hackworth: I think the celebration is the twenty five pounds. Either that or we'll be dancing on the desks. Oh. Erik Arguello: Questionnaire. Ricky Bacich: Okay. Is that it then? Tommy Hackworth: Um yeah, just the last, I think. Ricky Bacich: Awesome. Tommy Hackworth: I think I've got minutes for two of the meeting and the last thingy. Erik Arguello: Questionnaire done. Oh, I didn't have to rate you on how much you influenced the meeting this time. Ricky Bacich: Was that not the questionnaire for the how you felt you'd done in your thing? Erik Arguello: Oh, right. But Ricky Bacich: I Erik Arguello: do we not Ricky Bacich: don't Erik Arguello: sometimes Ricky Bacich: think. Erik Arguello: evaluate in these meetings Ricky Bacich: Yeah, the Erik Arguello: too? Yeah. Ricky Bacich: the s yeah. I think yeah, questionnaire seven was the one I did just before the meeting. Terence Goins: Yeah. Ricky Bacich: Mm. Tommy Hackworth: I just got con

Tommy Hackworth went over decisions from the previous meeting. Ricky Bacich presented the prototype and discussed its look, its internal components, and its interface. Erik Arguello evaluated the product according to the initial product goals. The group then decided that enough of this criteria had been satisfied for the project to continue. Tommy Hackworth presented the final cost of the device which exceeded the initial projected price point. The group decided to remove speech recognition but to propose to the management that it remain in the design. The group then discussed their effectiveness as a team. All members felt that they interacted well and that they felt they could be creative. Erik Arguello felt that the market-research based approach would help the project's success with consumers. The group did express, however, that the budget was overly constraining. Tommy Hackworth instructed the group to fill out a final evaluation questionnaire.

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Hans Ruiz: Uh, making James Reger: Alright so Hans Ruiz: a James Reger: twenty Hans Ruiz: profit James Reger: five. Hans Ruiz: of fifty million Henry Coleman: Mm 'kay. Hans Ruiz: So, it's James Reger: So yeah, Hans Ruiz: go James Reger: I've Hans Ruiz: gonna have to be be pretty damn James Reger: The only Hans Ruiz: trendy. James Reger: the only remote controls I've used usually come with the television, and Hans Ruiz: Yeah. James Reger: they're Henry Coleman: Mm-hmm. James Reger: fairly Hans Ruiz: Yeah. James Reger: basic. So uh Hans Ruiz: Yeah, I was thinking that as well, I think the the only ones that I've seen that you buy are the sort of one for all type things Henry Coleman: Yeah Hans Ruiz: where Henry Coleman: the universal Hans Ruiz: they're, Henry Coleman: ones Hans Ruiz: yeah. James Reger: Mm. Henry Coleman: Yeah. Hans Ruiz: So presumably that might be an idea to James Reger: But but Hans Ruiz: put James Reger: to Hans Ruiz: into. James Reger: sell it Jackie Spellman: Slim. James Reger: for twenty five you need a lot of neat features. For Henry Coleman: Yeah. Hans Ruiz: Yeah, James Reger: sure. Hans Ruiz: yeah. Henry Coleman: Mm-hmm, Hans Ruiz: And that's Henry Coleman: it's Hans Ruiz: quite Henry Coleman: about Hans Ruiz: a Henry Coleman: that. Hans Ruiz: lot for a remote control. James Reger: Yeah, Henry Coleman: Mm. James Reger: yeah. Henry Coleman: Um well my first thoughts would be most remote controls are grey or black. As you said they come with the T_V_ so it's normally just your basic grey Hans Ruiz: Uh-huh. Henry Coleman: black remote control functions, so maybe we could think about colour? Hans Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Henry Coleman: Make that might make it a bit different from the rest at least. Um, and as you say, we need to have some kind of gimmick, Hans Ruiz: Okay. Henry Coleman: thought maybe something like if you lose it and you can whistle, you know those things? Hans Ruiz: The the keyrings, Henry Coleman: Because we always Hans Ruiz: yeah Henry Coleman: lose our remote Hans Ruiz: yeah. Henry Coleman: control. James Reger: Right. Hans Ruiz: Okay, that's cool. Jackie Spellman: Uh yeah uh, being as Exper Expert I will like to say other things we must see the market potential for this product like what is the competition in the market? What are the available prices of the other remote controls in the prices? What speciality other remote controls are having Hans Ruiz: Okay. Jackie Spellman: and how complicated it is to use these remote controls as compared to other remote controls available in the market. Henry Coleman: Okay. Jackie Spellman: like and apart from this, it should be having a good look also, because people really li uh like to play with it Henry Coleman: Mm. Jackie Spellman: when they are watching movies or playing with or playing with their C_D_ player, M_P_ three player like Henry Coleman: Mm-hmm. Jackie Spellman: any electronic devices. Henry Coleman: Mm-hmm. Jackie Spellman: They really want to have something good, having a good design Henry Coleman: Yeah. Jackie Spellman: in their hands, Hans Ruiz: Okay. Jackie Spellman: so, Hans Ruiz: 'Kay. Jackie Spellman: yes, all this. James Reger: Uh, Hans Ruiz: So, we're James Reger: what do Hans Ruiz: looking James Reger: we think a Hans Ruiz: for 'Kay. James Reger: What do we Hans Ruiz: We're James Reger: think a good size would be for this? Hans Ruiz: Sorry, James Reger: 'Cause Hans Ruiz: carry on. James Reger: I I know as you add more buttons to the remote it sometimes gets so big and clunky Henry Coleman: Yeah. James Reger: and there's Hans Ruiz: Mm-hmm. James Reger: just like a hundred buttons on it, Hans Ruiz: Mm-hmm. Henry Coleman: Yeah. James Reger: or you could have a really small slim one but then you could lose it easily. Henry Coleman: Then you lose Hans Ruiz: Okay. Henry Coleman: it, yeah. Kind of um, maybe more like a P_D_A_ kind of, just hand held, like, Hans Ruiz: For Henry Coleman: 'cause Hans Ruiz: for uh remember we're trying to make it for twelve Euros fifty. Henry Coleman: Yeah. No, I wasn't, no sorry I wasn't thinking of the screen of like Hans Ruiz: Okay Henry Coleman: a P_D_A_ Hans Ruiz: well Henry Coleman: but Hans Ruiz: right we'll have to um I'll we're k having another meeting in half an hour so Henry Coleman: Okay. Hans Ruiz: um we should all look into a bit uh, oh actually, no, we'll allocate. So you do the looking around at other remote controls. Jackie Spellman: Yeah. Hans Ruiz: Um, if you could maybe come up with sort of shapes and suggested shades or whatever, and you could look into um basically how how it's made I_E_ like how you make it all in one, how what sort of materials are available to you whatever. And obviously, other instructions will come from the personal coach. James Reger: Right. Hans Ruiz: Which will probably just usurp what I said so Henry Coleman: So you want Jackie Spellman to look at shapes and everything you said? Hans Ruiz: Shapes and Henry Coleman: Yep. Hans Ruiz: colours and Henry Coleman: Okay. Hans Ruiz: um basically how to make it attractive. Uh. Henry Coleman: Mm-hmm. Hans Ruiz: And you look at competition Jackie Spellman: Yep. Hans Ruiz: and design. Cool. Henry Coleman: Okay. James Reger: Okay. Hans Ruiz: So we have James Reger: Wait Hans Ruiz: uh James Reger: for emails? Jackie Spellman: Uh. Hans Ruiz: Um. James Reger: Hmm. Hans Ruiz: Okay, groovy. And no doubt we'll get um Henry Coleman: Oh no, Sorry Hans Ruiz: Sorry. Henry Coleman: it's okay. Hans Ruiz: We'll get um warnings for next meetings as well. Henry Coleman: Okay, cool. Hans Ruiz: Okay. I shall I can't imagine these are worth much. Okay. Jackie Spellman: Hmm. Hans Ruiz: Fashion into electronic. Okay.

The group discussed their initial ideas about the features that they wanted to integrate into the design. They discussed making a universal remote with a locator function. They also discussed the shape and the number of functions in the main interface. Hans Ruiz instructed Jackie Spellman to examine competitors' remotes, Henry Coleman to research possible shapes and colors, and James Reger to research possible materials and the necessary internal components of the device.

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Garfield Cooksey: Um minutes from the last meeting which were essentially that we uh had decided on roles for each of you, however, um there are some changes that I've got from on high that John Shaffer: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: um are a bit uh well w what I didn't actually realise it was that the uh this is for a specific television. John Shaffer: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: So the all in one idea goes out the window. And John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: they require that the uh actually I'll get to that at the end point number four, um we'll what you've and then we can see what we can adapt from it. So um, presentations, were you anybody got, Ryan Miller: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: raring to go? Ryan Miller: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: Raring to go? Okay. Good stuff. Mm. Ryan Miller: Um. Garfield Cooksey: Oh Ryan Miller: So Garfield Cooksey: I need to Ryan Miller: how Garfield Cooksey: plug you in. Ryan Miller: S John Shaffer: Wow. Garfield Cooksey: Just about. Gregory Trytten: It's a inspired design. Ryan Miller: Sh do you want Ryan Miller to hold it? Garfield Cooksey: Uh there we go, just screw 'em on in. Gonna have to swap them round so now, Ryan Miller: So, after that? Garfield Cooksey: it was function F_ eight. Ryan Miller: F_ eight. Garfield Cooksey: That's the Ryan Miller: f Garfield Cooksey: wee blue one. Ryan Miller: oh sorry F_ eight. Garfield Cooksey: Blue one F_ eight. Should Ryan Miller: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: do it, good one. Ryan Miller: Yeah. Ryan Miller: Yeah. Uh, Ryan Miller again, Rajan Ryan Miller. Uh, as we have decided in the last meeting that I have to find out, sorry, Garfield Cooksey: Hold on, sorry. Ryan Miller: yeah sure. Garfield Cooksey: and if you just click that it'll go ahead, one Ryan Miller: Yeah, Garfield Cooksey: at a time. Ryan Miller: yeah. Uh actually, sorry I have to see the other, sorry. Garfield Cooksey: Sorry, uh. Ryan Miller: Yeah, thank you. Uh I have look at the market potential for uh, like consumer likings and everything, what is the potential for this product and are we able to achieve our a net profit or our aims or not? Then Garfield Cooksey: P press F_ five to start it first. Ryan Miller: Sorry. Okay. Yeah, I can, Gregory Trytten: Hmm. Ryan Miller: okay. Garfield Cooksey: Jesus. Ryan Miller: Uh then uh the methodology I adopted to find out all this was market survey. A a detailed market survey on consumers was done to find out their likings and dislikings, what they prefer what they not prefer, w what problems they do encounter in all this type of things. And what we got was, we found that if you uh, what they th what problems they are having with different uh remote controls available in the market. Seventy five percent of users they do find it that the remote controls available in the market are ugly. They are not so good looking. So, we have to put stress on this, uh we have to take care of this fact also like our design, uh should be appropriate, should be good looking for the consumers. And yes that's wi uh this will definitely, this can definitely put uh uh enhance our sales. Uh and even uh the good thing about this is that eighty percent of users they are willing to pay high uh pay more for this uh good looking remote controls also. So even if the available market goes for the available uh even if the market goes for the available remote control is less even then we can sell it at twenty five Euros, which maybe which may seem quite high but if our looks are are if the re remote control we design have a good better uh better look uh designs, then we can hope that consumers will prefer these g remote controls. Garfield Cooksey: Excellent. Ryan Miller: Then And the second thing, some some companies they think that they should have more and more functions of the users uh or in their remote controls, but rather than those having more functions in the remote controls we should emphasise what actually consumer want, what they operate, rather than making it too complicated. Because mostly it has been found that fifty percent of the users they use only ten percent of the buttons, so there is no point of having ninety percent buttons making the remote controls too bulky, too complicated too expensive a because I think I believe that technology is useful only if uh the consumers they want to use it. Otherwise there is no point of having all this type of things. So this will not only reduce the cost of our remote controls but it will increase our profit also. So we have to take care of this fact also. Then. Uh it was function I want to go to. Garfield Cooksey: Oh you wanna go back? Just escape. Ryan Miller: Uh, escape, okay thank you. Then if we look at this slide, Garfield Cooksey: Okay. Ryan Miller: uh these are in your shared documents, you can see, Garfield Cooksey: Okay. Ryan Miller: like Uh, John Shaffer: So, Ryan Miller: sorry. John Shaffer: sorry I was just gonna say, what was the question for this? Or is are you coming on to that? Ryan Miller: Ah t look all the market potential, what John Shaffer: Okay. Ryan Miller: uh how we should design consu our remote controls, what they should be there so as to en enhance our profit, enhance John Shaffer: So these percentages Ryan Miller: our sales. John Shaffer: are Ryan Miller: Yeah, John Shaffer: are what? Ryan Miller: these are different age group persons like uh sorry, I can open it in another way. Garfield Cooksey: Okay. Ryan Miller: Uh, Garfield Cooksey: Speech recognition. Ryan Miller: yes. If we look at the costs whether the consumers they are willing to uh pay more for speech recognition in a remote control or not, we can find that they up to a thirty five years age group we have a very good disliking for this uh this uh point, like for speech recognition in a remote control. So we can emphasise on this point also like, because it will definitely enhance our sales in this John Shaffer: Hmm. Ryan Miller: ag in this particular age group from uh fifteen to thirty five, and I uh and I think that most of the users of the rem uh T_V_ are belong to this age group. Garfield Cooksey: Hmm. Ryan Miller: So we Garfield Cooksey: We're als Ryan Miller: should look Garfield Cooksey: we we're looking at who buys it as well. Ryan Miller: Yeah. We can look at that that factor also, so yes. Garfield Cooksey: Uh, which I think the twenty five to thirty five is uh usual, sort of. John Shaffer: Mm, Ryan Miller: Yeah. John Shaffer: mm. Ryan Miller: So, and And then Garfield Cooksey: Fifteen to twe Ryan Miller: Yes. I think so. Uh if we look at this data how how uh h how what are the problems the consumers are facing with the existing remote controls in the market. They find that thirt uh thirty five percent uh thirty four percent of the consumers they find too difficult to operate a remote control. So it should be in such a way that it should be easy to learn how to operate these remote controls and we should provide pl uh spe uh proper manuals for its use also so as that people consumers could easily learn. They need not to have any, much technical knowledge John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Ryan Miller: to see uh to know how to operate these remote controls. Ryan Miller: So Garfield Cooksey: Okay. Ryan Miller: um this is all about uh market potential by Ryan Miller. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Ryan Miller: Uh, yes, th Garfield Cooksey: Okay, thank you. Ryan Miller: thank you. Garfield Cooksey: Um, follow on with Helen? Yeah John Shaffer: Yep, sure, Garfield Cooksey: please. John Shaffer: that's cool, um Ryan Miller: Yeah we have to Garfield Cooksey: Oh, Ryan Miller: take Garfield Cooksey: so Ryan Miller: that John Shaffer: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: we do yeah. Ryan Miller: out. Sorry. Garfield Cooksey: Fun and games. Ryan Miller: Sorry. Garfield Cooksey: Don't know if the cable's gonna be long enough. Ryan Miller: Uh sorry, Garfield Cooksey: I think Ryan Miller: I Garfield Cooksey: I Ryan Miller: have. Garfield Cooksey: just kicked over whatever it runs on underneath as well. Ryan Miller: Brian, this one also I. Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: Okay. John Shaffer: I Ryan Miller: Thank John Shaffer: can Ryan Miller: you John Shaffer: turn Ryan Miller: very much John Shaffer: my Ryan Miller: Brian. John Shaffer: computer quickly if that's okay. Ryan Miller: If you want Ryan Miller to help, John Shaffer: Um, Ryan Miller: yeah. John Shaffer: yep. Ryan Miller: Yeah. John Shaffer: Okay, and then what do I press, F_ eight? Ryan Miller: Uh F_ eight. Garfield Cooksey: Function Ryan Miller: Function Garfield Cooksey: F_ eight. Ryan Miller: F_ eight. John Shaffer: Oh right. Ryan Miller: Mm s. John Shaffer: Okay cool. Ryan Miller: It's not coming. John Shaffer: Oh. Ryan Miller: Function F_ eight, okay. Yeah. John Shaffer: Yeah. No signal. Garfield Cooksey: Hmm. Ryan Miller: Computer. Garfield Cooksey: There you go. Ryan Miller: Computer adjusting, John Shaffer: Okay. Ryan Miller: yeah. John Shaffer: Cool. Okay Ryan Miller: Yeah. John Shaffer: and then how do I press the the big one, to get it on Garfield Cooksey: Uh John Shaffer: to the big Garfield Cooksey: F_ five. John Shaffer: F_ five and I press that again to get it off as well Garfield Cooksey: Um, John Shaffer: do Ryan Miller: Escape. John Shaffer: I? Garfield Cooksey: F_ five and escape'll bring it back and just uh the left button for advancing. John Shaffer: Okay, so um I'm the interface design designer, User Interface Designer sorry, uh I'm concerned with um w what effect the apparatus should have on the user and um I'm I'm also I want to point out that our motto, put the fashion in electronics, so obviously we as a company we want to make our products trendy and fashionable, it's a big concern of ours. Okay, and how do I press n just the next button? Garfield Cooksey: Uh just John Shaffer: The arrow? Garfield Cooksey: a left uh John Shaffer: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: left John Shaffer: So Garfield Cooksey: mouse button. John Shaffer: um I looked at existing designs and also um the information that Raj gave us was very useful about what people like, what people dislike. Um and what people fashionable, because we said people between twenty five and thirty five Garfield Cooksey: Mm-hmm. John Shaffer: were the main um buyers of of our T_V_ I think. Garfield Cooksey: Okay. John Shaffer: So um what they like and what they find fashionable. Garfield Cooksey: 'Kay. John Shaffer: And ergonomics, we said um, I don't know I haven't actually been able to do any of this myself, but um maybe that comes up, I don't know. Garfield Cooksey: That can come under John Shaffer: And Garfield Cooksey: Arlo as John Shaffer: the Garfield Cooksey: well. John Shaffer: findings, well the basic that was the basic function to send messages to the television set. That's Garfield Cooksey: Uh. John Shaffer: what people want to do. Um, so they need to be included, um, but I've got some pictures here of some leading ones. I don't know how to get to them, do I press Garfield Cooksey: Uh John Shaffer: F_ Garfield Cooksey: if John Shaffer: five Garfield Cooksey: you John Shaffer: is it? Garfield Cooksey: if you escape John Shaffer: escape? Garfield Cooksey: then you can see your bar. John Shaffer: Oh okay, cool. I haven't got my glasses on so I hope it's this one. These Garfield Cooksey: Uh John Shaffer: are two Garfield Cooksey: okay. John Shaffer: leading um remote controls at the moment. You know Garfield Cooksey: 'Kay. John Shaffer: they're grey, they've I mean this one's got loads of buttons, it's hard to tell from here what they actually do, and they don't look very exciting at all. Um, personally I prefer this one just because it's looks easier use, it's a bit more sleek with more of this silver stuff, Garfield Cooksey: Mm-hmm. John Shaffer: um, but there you go, that's what we're up against, and I think we can do much better than that. Gregory Trytten: Of course. John Shaffer: Um Garfield Cooksey: We hope so. John Shaffer: hang on. F_ five, okay, sorry. Personal preferences. Um, well I think we need to l I think the ergonomics is quite um important, um Garfield Cooksey: Yeah, particularly if we've uh there was a bit in Raj's about R_S_I_ and things as well. John Shaffer: Uh-huh. Ryan Miller: Yeah. John Shaffer: And um I thought not too edgy and like a box, more kind of hand-held more um not as uh computery and Garfield Cooksey: Organic. John Shaffer: or organic, yeah, more organic shape I think. Um simple designs, like the last one we just saw, not too many buttons and as Raj pointed out, only ten percent fifty percent of people only use ten percent of the buttons, Garfield Cooksey: Mm-hmm. John Shaffer: so I think what we can miss out on the buttons we can make up for in Garfield Cooksey: Sales, John Shaffer: design and and how nice it looks. Garfield Cooksey: Okay. John Shaffer: Um, hand-held and portable I think is portamint is important because T_F_T_ have just um released um I think is it a a remote control for presentations or uh and Garfield Cooksey: Yeah John Shaffer: a big Garfield Cooksey: it's John Shaffer: seven Garfield Cooksey: like a, John Shaffer: inch Garfield Cooksey: yeah. John Shaffer: big screen, anyway, so um Garfield Cooksey: It's. John Shaffer: Yeah, no seven inches isn't that big but um anyway um so hand-held and portable and uh m Garfield Cooksey: Right. John Shaffer: I thought about other functions for T_V_ but as you pointed out people don't actually want that, so Garfield Cooksey: And John Shaffer: maybe Ryan Miller: Yeah. John Shaffer: we Garfield Cooksey: also John Shaffer: forget about that. Garfield Cooksey: the company want to keep it stuck to the T_V_ for uh to keep down the John Shaffer: It's Garfield Cooksey: production John Shaffer: for one Garfield Cooksey: time. John Shaffer: T_V_ oh right okay, sure. And so the last thing I thought w which I quickly mentioned in the other one was maybe a bit of a gimmick to Garfield Cooksey: Mm-hmm. John Shaffer: set us apart from other people, like glow-in-the-dark Ryan Miller: Exactly. John Shaffer: um Ryan Miller: Yeah. John Shaffer: which does already e exist but it's not very Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. John Shaffer: widely used I don't think. Easy finder with the a whistle function Garfield Cooksey: Okay. John Shaffer: or something, or rechargeable station because it's a pain when you run out of batteries. Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. John Shaffer: And I think that, yep, that's it. Garfield Cooksey: That's cool. Gregory Trytten: So John Shaffer: Okay? Gregory Trytten: uh, I noticed your talk about speech recognition and whistling, John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: and uh I was just curious to know, have we done any research into how many people can whistle? Um, or if is that a function we want in the remote? John Shaffer: Um, Garfield Cooksey: Um, John Shaffer: I haven't Garfield Cooksey: do you have John Shaffer: been Garfield Cooksey: trouble John Shaffer: able to Garfield Cooksey: whistling? Gregory Trytten: I don't, but I I know a lot of people do right. Garfield Cooksey: Really? Ooh. Gregory Trytten: Yeah it just I mean it has to be a certain kind of whistle too, right? John Shaffer: Mm-hmm, Garfield Cooksey: Yeah, I suppose John Shaffer: yeah Garfield Cooksey: that's true. John Shaffer: or Garfield Cooksey: Well John Shaffer: some Garfield Cooksey: I suppo John Shaffer: sort Garfield Cooksey: uh you could John Shaffer: of Garfield Cooksey: y you could John Shaffer: voice Garfield Cooksey: have the you could have the basically um instead of a whistle if it's got the voice recognition you could have it just, you know, where are you? John Shaffer: Yeah. Ryan Miller: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: That's costly though. Um a much easier thing is just any loud noise like clapping John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: um, Garfield Cooksey: Hmm. Gregory Trytten: shouting, Ryan Miller: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: you know, Garfield Cooksey: Sounds Gregory Trytten: uh Garfield Cooksey: good. Gregory Trytten: and then, what would the response be? It beeps back at you or something? John Shaffer: Yeah, something. Gregory Trytten: Okay. Well, uh let Ryan Miller set this up. So I plug it in, press F_ five? Function F_ five? Garfield Cooksey: Function F_ eight for the um Gregory Trytten: Or function F_ eight? Garfield Cooksey: the uh Gregory Trytten: Okay. John Shaffer: Oh you need to twiddle the thingamibobsy thing. Gregory Trytten: Okay. I think it's uh just to lock it in. Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: It's got it. John Shaffer: Okay. Gregory Trytten: Okay. Um. So as Gregory Trytten my job is to take an input from you guys, Garfield Cooksey: Alright. Gregory Trytten: um so it's good you went first, and Garfield Cooksey: Let's Gregory Trytten: I jotted Garfield Cooksey: remember Gregory Trytten: down some Garfield Cooksey: that. Gregory Trytten: notes as to what are the b needs and uh what kind of novel features we can add to differentiate our product from the others. Um so Raj told us that uh consumers are willing to spend more for fancy products, and um he also mentioned that uh the current products don't always match users' operating behaviour. Um, a lot of the buttons aren't used, and uh he mentioned that they're not fun to use. And uh a novel feature which uh we just brought up was this this automatic speech recognition feature or noise detection feature for when you lose the remote, there could be a little microphone on it, and any noise over a certain threshold um it'll pick up as a a distress signal um Garfield Cooksey: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: from you and it'll beep back and say you know oh here I am or Garfield Cooksey: But Gregory Trytten: something Garfield Cooksey: sure Gregory Trytten: of this Garfield Cooksey: surely Gregory Trytten: sort. Garfield Cooksey: that would have to be um sort of specific rather than above a threshold 'cause if you had a loud movie on you're likely John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: to get it Gregory Trytten: Oh Garfield Cooksey: beeping Gregory Trytten: yeah, Garfield Cooksey: back at you. Gregory Trytten: yeah, John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: that's true. Well maybe you could have a um hmm tha that would be a consideration to take into account yes. Um. Garfield Cooksey: Sorry I didn't mean to derail you there. Gregory Trytten: Yeah well tha that's uh for later down the road um, and then as for the user interface it should be trendy, um and not computery, right, so more low tech and not too many buttons. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: So I took these all into consideration and also I have some limitations from the boss. Right um, and practical limitations which I kinda threw out the window. And so I did a little research and unfortunately all I had to work on was our uh our corporate archives of the great products we've made before, which include, you know, um space craft, coffee makers, and bullet trains Garfield Cooksey: Ah is Gregory Trytten: Or Garfield Cooksey: that what Gregory Trytten: uh Garfield Cooksey: that is? Gregory Trytten: or a high speed train. Right and having personally worked with all these products uh I have a great deal of experience with uh Garfield Cooksey: Well Gregory Trytten: with industrial Garfield Cooksey: that's cool. Gregory Trytten: design of Garfield Cooksey: If Gregory Trytten: these. Garfield Cooksey: you if you can build space craft you'll have no problem with a Gregory Trytten: Right. Garfield Cooksey: remote control, John Shaffer: Yeah sure. Garfield Cooksey: yeah. Gregory Trytten: So, I figured, just put 'em all together. You got a a caffeine powered space shuttle train transport to your T_V_, and um Ryan Miller: Hmm. Gregory Trytten: as for the user interface problem, you know, too many buttons. Give it one button and and it's a you know, for the the cowboy in all of us I I'm not quite sure what the the function is there Garfield Cooksey: Right John Shaffer: Well Gregory Trytten: but John Shaffer: I like Garfield Cooksey: okay. John Shaffer: that design. Gregory Trytten: Yeah it's a g I mean you could have a you know a Garfield Cooksey: Is that just switches on the speech recognition and it's entirely speech operated, is it? Gregory Trytten: Right. Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: So I think I I missed the budget thing, it was fifty million Euros? Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: And we gotta sell twenty five of them? John Shaffer: Yeah, Gregory Trytten: Right. John Shaffer: not a problem. Ryan Miller: Fifty Gregory Trytten: Okay. Ryan Miller: million Garfield Cooksey: Ah now Ryan Miller: was Garfield Cooksey: it's fif Ryan Miller: uh Garfield Cooksey: fifty Ryan Miller: prof Garfield Cooksey: million Euros we've gotta uh Ryan Miller: As a profit. Garfield Cooksey: we've Gregory Trytten: Oh okay, Garfield Cooksey: g Gregory Trytten: so I I Garfield Cooksey: gotta Gregory Trytten: mixed Garfield Cooksey: make Gregory Trytten: those Garfield Cooksey: profit, Gregory Trytten: numbers. Garfield Cooksey: so we're making that at twelve and a half Gregory Trytten: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: Euros a time. Gregory Trytten: Well I guess more realistically then, we need a product that's got some kinda nifty outer casing, cheap plastic uh, you know, um John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: that should be just like uh a tenth of the price maybe or less. An energy source which'd probably just be uh your regular batteries Garfield Cooksey: Okay. Gregory Trytten: um, we don't Garfield Cooksey: Would Gregory Trytten: wanna Garfield Cooksey: it Gregory Trytten: have Garfield Cooksey: be Gregory Trytten: it Garfield Cooksey: possible to have the rechargeable idea? Is that is Gregory Trytten: Uh. Garfield Cooksey: that gonna John Shaffer: Or Garfield Cooksey: mark John Shaffer: a little Garfield Cooksey: up John Shaffer: base Garfield Cooksey: a lot? John Shaffer: station or Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. John Shaffer: something, Gregory Trytten: Yeah, yeah, we could do that too. Um, I hadn't thought of that. Yeah. John Shaffer: That might cost more though, 'cause obviously with batteries we don't need to provide, well we provide the first batteries, but Garfield Cooksey: Yeah, yeah. John Shaffer: it's more, it's that's cheaper Gregory Trytten: Right. Garfield Cooksey: I mean John Shaffer: to Garfield Cooksey: if John Shaffer: just Garfield Cooksey: you think John Shaffer: provide Garfield Cooksey: about John Shaffer: batteries. Garfield Cooksey: these base stations now it's essentially just a a lead with a sort of John Shaffer: A Garfield Cooksey: self John Shaffer: battery in it, Garfield Cooksey: connecting John Shaffer: kinda. Garfield Cooksey: brake in it, so Gregory Trytten: Right, Garfield Cooksey: I don't John Shaffer: Okay. Gregory Trytten: so Garfield Cooksey: think it'd up up Gregory Trytten: so the Garfield Cooksey: the price that much. Gregory Trytten: unirs John Shaffer: Okay. Gregory Trytten: the user interface uh the canonical user interface for these would be just a bunch of buttons, but since we're a cutting edge company, we uh of course will have alternatives like uh speech recognition, whistling recognition and rocket power Garfield Cooksey: Okay. Gregory Trytten: behind our product. Um and lastly the transmission interface is uh, just some engineering thing you don't have to worry about. Garfield Cooksey: Okay. Gregory Trytten: Um so here's you know, a great schematic that my uh apprentice designer gave Ryan Miller. Um as you can see the the remote control have parts and those parts look like that and um you know it's got a little operating procedure that looks something like that. And I suppose you all know how it works because we've all used it and we wouldn't be in a company designing remote controls if we didn't know what they were so uh personal preferences, I think uh programmable options which um just require a small amount of memory, uh non volatile memory, just um John Shaffer: Mm. Gregory Trytten: so the user can put in their favourite channels and maybe their preferred volume settings so that when they turn it on it's not blasting. John Shaffer: Mm that's a good idea actually I like the programmable Ryan Miller: Yeah, John Shaffer: options. Ryan Miller: Ryan Miller too. Gregory Trytten: Oh okay. And the uh, the bells and whistles that we mentioned you know, they take more budgeting, um more technical uh expenditure of effort and it's also much more likely to not work if Garfield Cooksey: Right. John Shaffer: Mm 'kay. Gregory Trytten: if we add these bells and whistles. Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: That's all I got. Garfield Cooksey: 'Kay, thank you very much, um I'll take that back. Gregory Trytten: Ooh that's tight. Garfield Cooksey: Right, also so um a notice I got not very long before the meeting, so didn't manage to forward it on to you, it is let's see, I'll find it myself, um Ta Gregory Trytten: Okay, I don't think we need to screw it in. Garfield Cooksey: nah. Gregory Trytten: Just push it. Ryan Miller: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: We had that um to dis-include teletext um because it's become outdated, and everybody uses the internet anyway. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: Um, dunno what Oracle would have to say with that but never mind. Um it's only for the television, which I'm presuming means it's for a specific television, John Shaffer: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: and um instead of colours and sorta colour options, they want corporate colour and slogan somehow implemented in the new design. John Shaffer: Corporate colour. Garfield Cooksey: Yellow. John Shaffer: Okay. Gregory Trytten: Yellow. Garfield Cooksey: I presume. Um, everything, all their sort of uh you know the uh corporate website and everything's yellow. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: electronics uh I don't know exactly how sort of incorpor I mean, I guess if you're going for a sort of globular shape you could kind of have it working its way round it or John Shaffer: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: something. Uh, John Shaffer: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: where am I? Okay, so, we have to decide on which functions we're going to actually have. John Shaffer: 'Kay. Garfield Cooksey: Uh, now, we had as listed options we had speech recognition potentially, flat screen interface, L_C_D_ interface um we also want to limit the number of buttons John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: so we'll pretty much take that one as read. We'll John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: use the the basic functions for a television. No teletext. Um okay John Shaffer: Although Garfield Cooksey: hold John Shaffer: the Garfield Cooksey: on. John Shaffer: the danger with that is, it could look a bit cheap. Garfield Cooksey: Not enough buttons you mean? John Shaffer: Yeah. Well Garfield Cooksey: So sorta strike a balance between a a few and a John Shaffer: Mm. Garfield Cooksey: or it looks like we're just cutting on the um John Shaffer: On the number of buttons, kind of Garfield Cooksey: I John Shaffer: functions Garfield Cooksey: do however John Shaffer: and stuff. Garfield Cooksey: have this from over my head, John Shaffer: Mm-hmm, okay. Garfield Cooksey: that they don't want teletext on it. John Shaffer: Okay, cool. Garfield Cooksey: Uh maybe Raj you could find out what people would think about that, or maybe they'll send Ryan Miller: About Garfield Cooksey: some information Ryan Miller: cost. Garfield Cooksey: about that, about um what people, whether people would require um teletext in a remote teletext option in a remote control. Ryan Miller: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: Okay um. So uh I take it your position Arlo is that the bells and whistles we've gotta come up with the a gimmick but not too complicated a gimmick. Gregory Trytten: Yeah yeah. Garfield Cooksey: Um so I mean a a the sort of inkling I'm getting from little bits of um web chatter that I'm getting sent is that they're quite interested in a T_F_T_ display, interactive display. However that does sound a bit like the more complicated design that rav uh sorry Raj um said people didn't like. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm, Garfield Cooksey: Although John Shaffer: mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: I guess if there's a sort of If you think about standard interfaces that people use already, sort of Windows-style John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: drop down menus or whatever, I think maybe that's a John Shaffer: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: bit, going a bit far but you know like in a basic sense that you could have your basic selection of buttons, and if you hit a sort of menu at the top you have um it goes to a different selection of buttons, John Shaffer: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: so it sorta keeps it simple. John Shaffer: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: Um glow in the dark, is that sort of with a light inside it or is it sort of John Shaffer: Um Garfield Cooksey: glow in the dark material? Ryan Miller: Uh. John Shaffer: Glow in the dark material Garfield Cooksey: Okay. John Shaffer: I was thinking. Garfield Cooksey: So John Shaffer: Um, Ryan Miller: I John Shaffer: so I I guess that would be cheaper than a light Ryan Miller: Uh may John Shaffer: I Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. John Shaffer: think. Ryan Miller: I say something about? Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. Ryan Miller: Uh actually I think it's really really very important point uh as if we look at the market because people mor fifty percent people they find that the remote controls are often lost somewhere in the remote, in the room. But John Shaffer: Often lost s was Garfield Cooksey: Lost, John Shaffer: that, Ryan Miller: yeah John Shaffer: yeah. Ryan Miller: are Garfield Cooksey: yeah. Ryan Miller: lost and means they forget where they have kept the remote control last time. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Ryan Miller: But if we add speech recognition as well as glow in the dark then both these factors will help their locating the John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Ryan Miller: remote control, like if they come and speak something at the remote control uh replies to something something and it glows in the dark. Both these factors uh both these points will help them to locate the Garfield Cooksey: That's Ryan Miller: where Garfield Cooksey: cool. Ryan Miller: they have John Shaffer: Mm-hmm, Ryan Miller: kept this remote control, John Shaffer: mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: That's Ryan Miller: and Garfield Cooksey: cool. Ryan Miller: this will definitely enhance our uh market sales, so we should take it into consideration also. Garfield Cooksey: Okay, cool. Um Gregory Trytten: Well hmm. Garfield Cooksey: speech recognition I take it Gregory Trytten: Oh Garfield Cooksey: I don't, Gregory Trytten: it's Garfield Cooksey: I've I know of no products um Gregory Trytten: They're act Garfield Cooksey: that Gregory Trytten: there Garfield Cooksey: use Gregory Trytten: there Garfield Cooksey: speech Gregory Trytten: was Garfield Cooksey: recognition Gregory Trytten: a remote control Garfield Cooksey: well. Gregory Trytten: that came out two years ago that had a some basic speech recognition on it. You could programme it with your channels and then you say you know like uh B_B_C_ one and it goes to that channel. Garfield Cooksey: Really? Gregory Trytten: Yeah, it didn't work very well though because of this noise interference problem. John Shaffer: Mm. Garfield Cooksey: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: They mentioned you know if the television says you are listening to B_B_C_ one. Garfield Cooksey: Yeah, or a yeah an advert an advert for B_B_C_ two on B_B_C_ one'll switch the channel for you kinda thing. Gregory Trytten: Right, right, and so there was a lot of this, you'd be watching the T_V_ and then all of a sudden it'd it'd pick up a noise and turn it off or you know John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: or Garfield Cooksey: Mm. Gregory Trytten: turn the volume off or something, John Shaffer: 'Kay. Gregory Trytten: but if you can work around that that noise problem Garfield Cooksey: Uh-huh. John Shaffer: Well what about this might get a bit too expensive actually, but what about um something that's built into the T_V_ um that you can press and it'll send out a little signal you know like the ones that we can't hear or something Garfield Cooksey: Ah, that's a good idea. John Shaffer: um that that will activate the remote control starts Gregory Trytten: Right. John Shaffer: to beep. Garfield Cooksey: So like a kind John Shaffer: If Garfield Cooksey: of John Shaffer: you find Garfield Cooksey: backwards John Shaffer: if y Garfield Cooksey: remote from the telly. Gregory Trytten: Right John Shaffer: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: and then it would do just you know, uh subtractive kind of cancellation of the noise. What you could do then would be you have uh a remote controlled by the T_V_ speaker, or not a remo I'm sorry, a microphone by the T_V_ speaker and a transmitter there that sends back to your remote, 'cause you can't um expect uh the the television manufacturers to John Shaffer: Mm. Gregory Trytten: to put that feature into their John Shaffer: Yeah, Gregory Trytten: T_V_s. John Shaffer: that's the only thing, yeah. Gregory Trytten: But Garfield Cooksey: Right. Gregory Trytten: yeah, then you have like the little se separate module by Garfield Cooksey: That Gregory Trytten: the Garfield Cooksey: we Gregory Trytten: T_V_ Garfield Cooksey: should just stick Gregory Trytten: speaker Garfield Cooksey: on, yeah. John Shaffer: That Gregory Trytten: which John Shaffer: comes with our remote control. Gregory Trytten: Right, Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: and then John Shaffer: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: the remote control would know um Garfield Cooksey: And that's Gregory Trytten: what's Garfield Cooksey: a Gregory Trytten: being produced by Garfield Cooksey: sort Gregory Trytten: the television. Garfield Cooksey: of basic R_F_ kind Gregory Trytten: Right, Garfield Cooksey: of Gregory Trytten: right. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: frequency so it'll be cheap. Gregory Trytten: Right, right. Um. Yeah that's certainly possible then an another thing was about this losing the remote and trying to find it again. If you do have this sorta speech interface to it, you don't even need to find it. You just say you know, um whatever you whatever you want the remote for, you know to change the channel or to uh turn the T_V_ on and off, you just shout your command to it and it would do it for you if it's within you know, within hearing range. Garfield Cooksey: Uh-huh. Gregory Trytten: And uh you know it could be somewhere in the room y that you've no idea where it is and it would still do its job. John Shaffer: That could also be built into the T_V_ though, which might make our remote control a bit obsolete. Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: Well, hopefully Garfield Cooksey: It might Gregory Trytten: we're Garfield Cooksey: do Gregory Trytten: uh Garfield Cooksey: us out of a job. Gregory Trytten: we're ahead John Shaffer: Yeah, Gregory Trytten: of the curve. John Shaffer: okay. Garfield Cooksey: Um Okay. I like the whole sort of remote feedback thing. Um so I think rather than and that also kind of takes out the speech recognition John Shaffer: Mm. Garfield Cooksey: in terms of the interference of it not working very well and things like that, Gregory Trytten: Hmm. John Shaffer: And the expense. Garfield Cooksey: so I th yeah and expense John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: and the time. So I think if we're going to go well I mean like the thing about the there's the problem with the T_F_T_ or the L_C_D_ kind of thing is if you're also wanting the the kind of uh organic globby sort of feeling to it then you might have trouble incorporating the screen. John Shaffer: Mm. Garfield Cooksey: Um, but I guess not I thin we'll just we'll just pretend that's not a problem. Um uh and how are you about the glow in the dark material? Is that Gregory Trytten: Um. John Shaffer: Maybe not even all of it 'cause we said um colours and fashion w were important so maybe um just like a little l line that's kind of around the outside Gregory Trytten: Mm. John Shaffer: and then you can make the rest a different Garfield Cooksey: Contrast John Shaffer: colour. Garfield Cooksey: contra Gregory Trytten: Yeah, Garfield Cooksey: well. Gregory Trytten: no th the material's cheap but it's just uh the the glow in the dark material needs some light to charge it you know, John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: and Garfield Cooksey: Yeah, Gregory Trytten: then uh Garfield Cooksey: okay. Gregory Trytten: if you're, Garfield Cooksey: So if Gregory Trytten: if Garfield Cooksey: it's Gregory Trytten: you're Garfield Cooksey: dow Gregory Trytten: sitting Garfield Cooksey: it's Gregory Trytten: in the dark Garfield Cooksey: d uh Gregory Trytten: for Garfield Cooksey: yeah. Gregory Trytten: too long it uh it won't glow Garfield Cooksey: Or Gregory Trytten: any Garfield Cooksey: if Gregory Trytten: more. Garfield Cooksey: it's down under the couch cushions Gregory Trytten: Right. Garfield Cooksey: um which is where I usually find mine. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: Right. Garfield Cooksey: Um Okay, well we can use we can still use the glow in the dark as a gimmick essentially, John Shaffer: Yeah, 'cause Garfield Cooksey: um John Shaffer: what I thought, main Garfield Cooksey: if we're gonna have to if we're gonna have the logo on as well, bright yellow logo in our our um slogan. John Shaffer: Slogan, yeah. Garfield Cooksey: Uh then you know they're gonna be fairly brightly coloured anyway, and John Shaffer: Right. Garfield Cooksey: we can have sort of a a a trimming as well, of John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: the glow in the dark material, just as gimmickyness. John Shaffer: 'Cause yeah, that w more than finding it, that was more like you know if you're watching a film in the dark, Garfield Cooksey: Mm-hmm. John Shaffer: you can um Gregory Trytten: Mm-hmm. John Shaffer: still see the remote control. Garfield Cooksey: Alright, so n sorta John Shaffer: That was more Garfield Cooksey: if John Shaffer: of a Garfield Cooksey: if John Shaffer: a gimmick. Garfield Cooksey: if we're gon if we're gonna go with the idea of um uh of feedback, sort of remote finder, then that kinda stuffs that one out then. Do you think? John Shaffer: Mm. Garfield Cooksey: Uh it makes it fairly unnecessary then. John Shaffer: Yeah, unnecessary. Garfield Cooksey: Okay. John Shaffer: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: Um, okay so scratch that. Uh so we've got do we want to go with the T_F_T_ idea or the Gregory Trytten: Um Garfield Cooksey: is that Gregory Trytten: yeah we're getting Garfield Cooksey: far Gregory Trytten: a lot Garfield Cooksey: too Gregory Trytten: of features Garfield Cooksey: expensive? Gregory Trytten: now, I I think Garfield Cooksey: Well I mean I think I think the sort of find the finder things I mean it's uh I could probably write the circuit diagram for that myself. Gregory Trytten: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: Um Gregory Trytten: Well, I think a consideration too is that these uh remotes get abused a lot, you know they get thrown John Shaffer: Mm. Gregory Trytten: around, there's a good chance the the T_F_T_ screen would break Garfield Cooksey: Mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: or uh get damaged. They're pretty fragile. John Shaffer: So is Garfield Cooksey: Okay. John Shaffer: that one of our definite requirements that they wa that it needs a T_F_T_ Garfield Cooksey: Um John Shaffer: screen? Garfield Cooksey: no, I mean that was going on ravs uh Raj's sort of um marketing research I guess. Um Uh So we'll stick with sort of programmability um for the buttons that we do have. Um. So that's sort of included in your sub-module kind of stuff, um Gregory Trytten: Yeah mm. Garfield Cooksey: Uh you were finding out about teletext. If you Ryan Miller: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: could find out that uh Ryan Miller: Totally, it takes cheap speech recognition, she Garfield Cooksey: Um I think Ryan Miller: they Garfield Cooksey: we're gonna Ryan Miller: wi Garfield Cooksey: scratch the speech recognition as a bit of a Gregory Trytten: Oh. Garfield Cooksey: um John Shaffer: Yeah you think so? Garfield Cooksey: expensive, no? Gregory Trytten: Oh no it's it's much cheaper than the T_F_T_, it's just a microphone Garfield Cooksey: Oh right, okay. Gregory Trytten: and some some integrated circuits. Garfield Cooksey: Is it Gregory Trytten: And Garfield Cooksey: not Gregory Trytten: it'd Garfield Cooksey: the circuits Gregory Trytten: it'd be a small Garfield Cooksey: that Gregory Trytten: vocabulary Garfield Cooksey: cost Gregory Trytten: speech recognition system, like a Garfield Cooksey: Oh right, okay. Uh John Shaffer: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: well that kind of takes back the R_F_ the R_F_ remote sort of idea as well. Um. Five minutes. Okay. Decisions. Uh, votes, let's vote. Who wants T_F_T_? No-one does. Excellent, so we'll go with speech recognition, yeah? Ryan Miller: Yeah. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm, Gregory Trytten: Okay. John Shaffer: that's Garfield Cooksey: Um, John Shaffer: cool. Garfield Cooksey: speech recognition, limited buttons, organic design. John Shaffer: Um Garfield Cooksey: And what else was I thinking of that I haven't written down and therefore fallen out my head, programmability. Ryan Miller: Glow in dark. Garfield Cooksey: Uh John Shaffer: if it's not too expensive s I think it's a good Garfield Cooksey: Uh John Shaffer: gimmick. Garfield Cooksey: o Gregory Trytten: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: okay. And also, integrating the, remember to integrate the logo and the s slogan. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm. Garfield Cooksey: Okay, so. Um can you put all these reports in the project documents folder if they're not already in there as well. So, it just helps Ryan Miller Gregory Trytten: Yeah Ryan Miller: Here? Garfield Cooksey: summarize Gregory Trytten: yeah. Garfield Cooksey: them. Ryan Miller: Sure. Garfield Cooksey: And um I'll put any I'm I'm putting anything I do in there anyway, so uh John Shaffer: And where is it sorry? Garfield Cooksey: Uh pro uh project documents. On Gregory Trytten: So it should be when you save Garfield Cooksey: A_M_I_ scenario controller. Gregory Trytten: on your desktop, so it goes save as, John Shaffer: Oh. Gregory Trytten: or Ryan Miller: Uh it is in shared documents? Gregory Trytten: And then uh hit that little folder up thing Garfield Cooksey: Where Gregory Trytten: again. Garfield Cooksey: am I? Ryan Miller: Projoct Garfield Cooksey: Project Ryan Miller: uh projector. Gregory Trytten: Again. Garfield Cooksey: documents, yeah, it's on your desktop Gregory Trytten: All the Garfield Cooksey: as Gregory Trytten: way Garfield Cooksey: well. Gregory Trytten: to the top, yeah that's up to desktop. Right and then project documents. John Shaffer: Okay, cool. Ryan Miller: Hmm. It is not giving anything. Shared documents. Garfield Cooksey: And I will tr getting strings of um information, I'll try and forward any specific to anybody in particular, as soon as I get them now, rather than I was about to sort of tell you about the changes before the meeting, and then the meeting turned up, so John Shaffer: Okay. Gregory Trytten: Mm. Did you get my email? Garfield Cooksey: I did. Gregory Trytten: Okay. Just making sure. John Shaffer: Okay. Garfield Cooksey: So John Shaffer: What I thought as well about the material is um maybe not this kind of material, but maybe more like um this kind of rubbery material, it's a bit more bouncy, like you said they get chucked around a lot. Um, a bit more durable and Garfield Cooksey: Okay. John Shaffer: that can also be ergonomic and it kind of feels a bit different Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. John Shaffer: from all the other remote controls. The rubber Gregory Trytten: Yeah. John Shaffer: rather than Garfield Cooksey: More sort of um flesh-like than plasticky sort of. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Gregory Trytten: Wow. Ryan Miller: Um but we have to take care like But we have to take care of our children also if they means if children catch hold of your or if they chew it it shouldn't be too harmful. So, whatever material we use Garfield Cooksey: Oh no, ethics, Ryan Miller: it should be Garfield Cooksey: that's Ryan Miller: yeah. Garfield Cooksey: gonna cost us money. Ryan Miller: So we have to safety point of view also, Garfield Cooksey: Okay, Ryan Miller: we have to Garfield Cooksey: safety. Ryan Miller: take care. John Shaffer: Oh I think wi with the more organic shape of it it won't be as it won't as have many sharp corners as that, so that's something Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. John Shaffer: good, um I dunno, Garfield Cooksey: It Gregory Trytten: We Garfield Cooksey: sme Gregory Trytten: could John Shaffer: I mean Gregory Trytten: go Garfield Cooksey: smells Gregory Trytten: comp Garfield Cooksey: good for children. Gregory Trytten: yeah. Ryan Miller: Yeah. Gregory Trytten: We could go completely out of the box and make the thing a big red ball foam ball. And it's got the thing on the inside. And there's no buttons at all, it's always on, and just yell at it, John Shaffer: That's Gregory Trytten: and it works. John Shaffer: a good Garfield Cooksey: That John Shaffer: idea. Garfield Cooksey: sounds, Gregory Trytten: And then Garfield Cooksey: yeah Gregory Trytten: ch children John Shaffer: Interesting. Garfield Cooksey: it's gonna Gregory Trytten: will Garfield Cooksey: have Gregory Trytten: love Garfield Cooksey: to be Gregory Trytten: it. Garfield Cooksey: it's gonna be have a big yellow Gregory Trytten: Oh Garfield Cooksey: foam Gregory Trytten: yellow, Garfield Cooksey: ball, Gregory Trytten: yellow John Shaffer: Yeah, Garfield Cooksey: yeah, Gregory Trytten: ball. John Shaffer: d Garfield Cooksey: sorry. Gregory Trytten: Right. John Shaffer: with the colour, um does it have to be all yellow, do you know? Garfield Cooksey: Please God no. Um. John Shaffer: No. Garfield Cooksey: Well, I wouldn't th I mean, my reaction to an all-yellow remote control wouldn't be anything other than horror, so John Shaffer: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: I think just having it Ryan Miller: Small John Shaffer: Having Garfield Cooksey: surrounding Ryan Miller: logo John Shaffer: a little bit. Garfield Cooksey: the logo. Ryan Miller: with John Shaffer: Okay Ryan Miller: the John Shaffer: cool. Ryan Miller: like a small yellow strip or y yellow with the John Shaffer: Mm Ryan Miller: logo John Shaffer: mm. Ryan Miller: in it. Garfield Cooksey: Yeah. John Shaffer: Mm-hmm, okay. Cool. Garfield Cooksey: And I'll see if I can argue with boss about putting the what was it? We put we put fashion into Whoops, it's not working. Can't believe I've forgotten it. We put the fashion in electronics. John Shaffer: Oh yeah, that's Garfield Cooksey: I John Shaffer: a good one that. Yeah Garfield Cooksey: bet John Shaffer: so. Garfield Cooksey: that'll catch on well. Okay, any last Ryan Miller: Yeah. Garfield Cooksey: worries, queries? Gregory Trytten: Twelve thirty. Garfield Cooksey: Okay. S Ryan Miller: Hmm. Garfield Cooksey: s I know what you're thinking. Okay then, lunchtime, yay. Ryan Miller: That's good. Garfield Cooksey: Okay, that felt a bit more like a something with order and and reason to it than the last one. This is quite fun actually. John Shaffer: Wow. Gregory Trytten: Mm. John Shaffer: Has anybo oh. Garfield Cooksey: I really John Shaffer: Has anybody Garfield Cooksey: don't John Shaffer: pressed okay, it vibrates. It's Garfield Cooksey: Yeah, John Shaffer: pretty Garfield Cooksey: yeah. John Shaffer: cool. Gregory Trytten: Yep. Ryan Miller: Check here. Garfield Cooksey: Wow you've your first page. I John Shaffer: Yeah, Garfield Cooksey: was just writing really John Shaffer: got small Garfield Cooksey: big. John Shaffer: writing. Gregory Trytten: Yeah I've been using up the pages. John Shaffer: I don't wanna waste it. Garfield Cooksey: I've finished the meeting now. Oh, everybody Gregory Trytten: Another Garfield Cooksey: needs Gregory Trytten: questionnaire. 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Ryan Miller presented requirements of users as found in a company market study. The study showed that users want a fancier-looking but uncomplicated remote control, and are interested in speech recognition. He presented the age groups polled and said that the target marketing group should be users aged fifteen to thirty-five. John Shaffer presented several competitors' remotes and discussed the features that would make their own device more user-friendly. Gregory Trytten gave a presentation on important internal components that would keep the project within its budget, and discussed possible materials and programmable features. Garfield Cooksey gave several new requirements for the project to the group. The group discussed the features they would like to incorporate into the design in light of the new requirements and budget constraints. They decided to keep speech recognition as one of their components, and decided to include some programmable features, limit the number of button functions, and make the remote yellow and glow-in-the-dark, in an organic shape. The Program Manager said that he would ask to what extent the company motto had to be incorporated into the design.

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Robert Parker: Excellent. So um I sent you the agenda it, was on the in the project documents. I don't know if you got a chance to just have a look at it. Anyway, it's the meeting's gonna follow more or less the same structure as last time, so we'll go round each of you in turn and you can give your presentations on what you've been up to. Um and at the end of that we need to discuss what you've come with, so that we can make on the key remote control concepts, so that's we need to know about the components' properties, materials, the user interface and any trends that James Landry has been watching. Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: Okay. Um, do you wanna start again? Earnest Libby: Okay. Robert Parker: Let James Landry we've Earnest Libby: Right Robert Parker: got forty Earnest Libby: s Robert Parker: minutes. Earnest Libby: so I haven't made a PowerPoint Robert Parker: You haven't Earnest Libby: presentation, Robert Parker: made a PowerPoint, okay. Earnest Libby: yeah, I I thought I'll use the whiteboard instead. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Um mm, Robert Parker: Let's hope the pen holds out. Earnest Libby: okay, so basically I'll start off by uh I thought I'll use the whiteboard because we have so many different options and what we can do is that we can start um uh rubbing off the options that we do not require Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: and putting in the options that uh are m or highlighting or underlining them or something like that. Okay, I'll start again with a brief introduction to connect that anyway Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: brief introduction to the insides of a remote control and uh then we can probably uh discuss the various components. Yeah. Okay, so w what you see here is so this is the outside of the remote, right? Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: If you open it, you have a circuit board here, right, and this is the chip that I was talking about last time. This basically sends information to a tr uh transistor here, which then uh sends the information to an L_E_D_ device here. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: If you flip the printed circuit board, and this is th the most important point here, uh everything else is kind of Okay, so if you flip the circuit board, this is what it looks like. So you see for example a particular button attaches to a particular place on the P_C_B_ Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: and uh on pressing this button I a circuit completes, the information goes to the chip, which is somewhere here and the chip that tra then translates the code into an infra infrared radiation, which goes goes out through there. So uh the important point that I read over the website was uh that the configurations of these printed circuit circuit boards uh are quite cheap to make, you can Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: ge get them printed as you want to, so w we can have a configuration um irrespective of the cost, the way we want to have. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Right? So that's the important point here, so these are the different options that we have. Okay. So the batteries, I'll start with the battery, Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: right? So they can be simple which is like uh the normal batteries in uh our uh the cells, yeah? Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: Uh thes these are the kind different kind of batteries that the company makes, right? So. And dynamos. Um James Landry: Does that mean like a wind-up one? Earnest Libby: yeah, yeah. So uh James Landry: A wind-up remote. Earnest Libby: I don't know if even if you want to consider this, but these are the different things that the company makes, so Robert Parker: Okay. Earnest Libby: th they'll they'll since uh they'll come internally from the company, they'll be eas uh cheaper, uh all these options. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: So the third one is uh the kinetic energy ones. James Landry: You could make the hand dynamo into an exercise bike, and then people could exercise whilst watching T_V_. Earnest Libby: Yeah. Robert Parker: And charging their remote, James Landry: Yeah, Robert Parker: yeah. James Landry: and stop worrying about the whole R_S_I_ from the remote thing, 'cause Earnest Libby: Yeah, James Landry: that's just Earnest Libby: it's a good option. Aaron Phillips: So what was what was Earnest Libby: The Aaron Phillips: this k Earnest Libby: the kinetic energy one is uh that e uh uh they are usually modern watches, Aaron Phillips: Okay. Earnest Libby: since our Robert Parker: Uh Earnest Libby: hand Robert Parker: yeah. Earnest Libby: keeps moving, it keeps the watch ticking. But Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: I dunno i if it is a good idea for a remote control, Robert Parker: For a remote, Earnest Libby: because Robert Parker: 'cause you Earnest Libby: it'll just lie there for a Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: long while sometimes. But Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: as soon as you pick it up it moves and then again it uh re recharges or something. Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: And the fourth option is the solar cells, James Landry: Yay. Earnest Libby: which are also made by the company. Environment friendly. Okay um so I'll list things and then we can come back and discuss Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: what what we think from uh everybody's perspective. There are different cases that can be provided. They can be basically the shape of the cases, they can be flat, Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: they can be curved with uh one-sided curved and one side flat, and they can be curved with on both the sides. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: These are the three options, right? Um Aaron Phillips: Um you mean this would be like the the overall shape of the remote control, yeah, Earnest Libby: Yeah, Aaron Phillips: mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: would it be flat on both the Aaron Phillips: Yeah, Earnest Libby: sides, Aaron Phillips: mm-hmm, Earnest Libby: would be curved Aaron Phillips: mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: from one side, or Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: whatever Aaron Phillips: mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: uh there were different kind of supplements available, um like it can be in plastic, rubber, wood, or Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: titanium, Robert Parker: Okay. Earnest Libby: right? James Landry: Did you say Earnest Libby: Wo James Landry: wool? Robert Parker: Wood, Earnest Libby: wo wood. Robert Parker: wood. James Landry: Wood. Earnest Libby: Yeah. James Landry: Oh right. Robert Parker: A fluffy Earnest Libby: Not wool. Robert Parker: remote. James Landry: Yeah, you'll understand why when we get to my presenta. Earnest Libby: Oh really? Okay. Robert Parker: Huh. Earnest Libby: Um the so uh we can use even um a certain titanium is also used uh in the company to make uh uh some space design equipment, so it's kind of um uh it'll be probably nicer to use, because it relates to the overall image of the company, but uh it cannot be used on a double curved surface. If we choose this, we cannot use titanium. Robert Parker: Mm. Earnest Libby: For for these two we can use titanium, wood, rubber, or plastic. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Yeah? Uh okay, the interface options now. So we can have push-buttons, like most remotes do and our company is an expert in making push-buttons. Ooh. Uh we can have scroll wheels like the ones on um James Landry: Sony. Earnest Libby: uh mouse pointers Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: uh uh James Landry: Sony Ericsson mobile phones has it. Earnest Libby: Yeah, yeah, something like that. James Landry: Mm. Earnest Libby: So, and they have they can even have an an integrated uh push-button inside the scrolling Robert Parker: Okay. Earnest Libby: thing. The scroll plus push. So this is something that has been recently developed by the company, um in the last decade, so not too recent. And L_C_D_s, we can have L_C_D_s. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: The various electronic options are um uh so th this concerns firs first of all the the chips I I showed you at uh so there's there's a chip behind this one, right? The P_C_B_ is uh inexpensive, so we can put put in uh whatever we want, but Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: the various integrated circuit options are, we have either a simple one or a regular or advanced. And uh the price goes up Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: as we go down, obviously. Um okay, so the good thing about uh wh wh why why we would want to use advanced u why we might want to use advanced is that L_C_D_s can only come with the advanced chip. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Um the we need regular or advanced for uh scroll wheels. Right? Um and the chip basically includes the infra infrared sender. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Yeah. Uh besides this in electr under electronics uh also the company has started making a sample sender, which is did not explained what i what it was, but I'm guessing that uh so they have a sample sender and a sample speaker. So I'm guessing that uh the sample speaker is probably something like um uh you know, as soon as you press a button, it it mm uh give gives you feedback, one five or whatever. Yeah, Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: on. Um and uh I dunno whether sample sender sender has to do something with voice recognition or not, but anyway. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: So, these are the different options that we have. Okay, so th that's that's basically now now uh I think that uh we can integrate um uh you know, uh the user interface uh and uh the marketing things in that, Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: keep uh taking out things from this and uh Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: underlining things that are important, Robert Parker: Excellent. Earnest Libby: yeah. Robert Parker: Do you wanna Aaron Phillips: Okay. Robert Parker: stay somewhere near the board, so that if we need to Earnest Libby: Yeah, yeah, sure. Robert Parker: you can sit down, but Earnest Libby: Sure. Robert Parker: just Earnest Libby: Yeah. Robert Parker: we might need you to leap up. What Aaron Phillips: Okay. Robert Parker: are you, PowerPoint, or Aaron Phillips: Um I have some PowerPoint, yeah. Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: Okay. Aaron Phillips: Oh. Robert Parker: Do you Aaron Phillips: 'Kay. Robert Parker: think these pens can give you cancer of the hand? Some sort of radiation? James Landry: No it's got its little camera in there Robert Parker: Yeah. James Landry: plug, it in. Aaron Phillips: Okay. James Landry: 'S a Earnest Libby: Yeah, it should should do it. Yeah. Robert Parker: Right, interface concept. Aaron Phillips: Okay. Um to be honest, I mentioned some some of the things which which could fit on the on the this talk um this time, I I mentioned them already in the previous talk. Robert Parker: That's fine. Aaron Phillips: So um yeah, this time um I might not have them on the slides but I I can just Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Aaron Phillips: mention them aw again. Okay. So um I thought um I would also include the definition of user interface um so it's the aspects of a of of a computer system or programme which can be seen uh by the user um and and which uh the mechanisms that the user uses to control its operation and input data. So this would p includes things like shape and size and buttons and um voice recognition as well, and colour, Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Aaron Phillips: and so on. Um um the method I employed this time was a again having a look to related products and mainly on the internet and then um analyse them uh from the point of view of user fen friendliness and also um whether their appearance was was pleasant. Um and then um this uh this um this can help us to decide which features we want to incorporate Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Aaron Phillips: in our product. So some findings um um. So in in the case of many user interfaces, they're just so full of buttons that it's actually uh hard to find the ones you you really um want to use and um and it's just confusing, it takes y know time to learn. Um okay, and I thought I would just quickly show some of them that I found. Okay, some of them are here. Um well the picture is not very clear, but as you can see, there are actu oi, oh oh oh, sorry for that. 'S go back. Earnest Libby: That's Aaron Phillips: Ah, Earnest Libby: nice one. Aaron Phillips: no, please. Okay, so yeah, they're quite big and have many many buttons. Actually of the of all these I personally p prefer this one, because it's it's the smallest and and with with least uh with the smallest number of buttons as well. And I would say even the appearance of some of them is kind of James Landry: Ugly. Aaron Phillips: not so nice. Robert Parker: Mm. Aaron Phillips: Um okay. So let's carry on with this. Um So uh um o other findings um some new things um used, uh some of them were mentioned already by our Technical um Designer uh. Our own company has developed a new in user interface uh wait, no this is not the one. Okay, there is a we can uh include voice recognition and um it allows i it's possible to record eighty different voice samples Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Aaron Phillips: on it. Earnest Libby: Mm. Aaron Phillips: Uh so uh this uh this one was already mentioned uh the L_C_ Robert Parker: It's Aaron Phillips: display. Robert Parker: yeah. Aaron Phillips: Um s another new development is a scroll button, which was also th also already mentioned. And uh our own manufacturing division ha has uh designed a new um uh programmable speech uh mm sorry uh speaker unit I guess it's it should be. Robert Parker: Yeah. Aaron Phillips: Um and this means that um once uh uh it it it comes together with a voice recognition, but it's once once the mm um gadget uh recognises uh the voice of the speaker, there can be a um pre-programmed answer, for example, you can pick up the remote control and say something to it like hello and it says Robert Parker: Uh-huh, Aaron Phillips: some hello and Robert Parker: hi Aaron Phillips: your name or whatever. Robert Parker: yeah. Aaron Phillips: So Earnest Libby: Mm. Aaron Phillips: I mean this is also one of the n dev new developments which we might consider if we wanted to Earnest Libby: Uh Aaron Phillips: include. Earnest Libby: sorry, uh can you go back for a second? Um uh are you sure wha what this means, a spinning wheel with the L_C_ display? Uh oh Robert Parker: It's like the like you said, no? The scroll scroll James Landry: Yeah, Earnest Libby: yeah James Landry: you Aaron Phillips: No James Landry: can't Robert Parker: wheel. Earnest Libby: are Aaron Phillips: no, Earnest Libby: th Aaron Phillips: the scroll button is a different thing. I I have a picture if you just a moment, I'll I'll show you. I wasn't completely sure myself, but I think it's just like um it's it's a wheel, it's like not separate buttons. Look, Earnest Libby: Oh okay, Aaron Phillips: this one here. James Landry: Oh, Earnest Libby: the iPod James Landry: it's like Aaron Phillips: But James Landry: the Earnest Libby: thing, Aaron Phillips: I'm James Landry: iPod. Earnest Libby: yeah. Aaron Phillips: I'm not really sure whether whether you can really turn it round, James Landry: G yeah, Aaron Phillips: it's James Landry: no, Aaron Phillips: like you James Landry: you Aaron Phillips: press James Landry: can. Aaron Phillips: this Earnest Libby: Uh Aaron Phillips: or Earnest Libby: it's Aaron Phillips: this Earnest Libby: the James Landry: It's Earnest Libby: iPod Aaron Phillips: or James Landry: like Earnest Libby: uh kind of uh James Landry: it's like where you you know how you have your your mouse, and Robert Parker: Uh-huh. James Landry: y you go round and i it's kind Earnest Libby: Alright, James Landry: of like that and you Earnest Libby: right. James Landry: spin round and it Earnest Libby: Okay, okay. James Landry: yeah. Earnest Libby: So James Landry: It Earnest Libby: instead James Landry: is Earnest Libby: of going down you just spin James Landry: You Earnest Libby: yeah, James Landry: just Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. James Landry: go round and it is a bit Earnest Libby: yeah. James Landry: weird at first, but it's actually very like fast. Earnest Libby: Uh-huh. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. James Landry: I like the the wheels that click on the side you you get 'em much slower, so it's quite good if you like searching quite a lot of stuff. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Right. Aaron Phillips: Uh-huh. James Landry: Do you know, if you're lookin if you're th scrolling through the A_ to Z_ of your music and you're looking for something at T_, Earnest Libby: Mm-hmm. James Landry: then it's a lot faster than the wheel, but you've got a lot less control over it. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Right. So Aaron Phillips: Mm. Earnest Libby: maybe I should include that here as well, L_C_D_s Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: um Aaron Phillips: Uh Earnest Libby: plus spinning. Robert Parker: Yeah. Aaron Phillips: Okay, and the personal preferences are pretty much the same as as as last time. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Aaron Phillips: It it has to be small, simple. Okay, we decided to include voice recognition, so to have the standard uh major buttons like on, off, um ch the channels and and then um volume and then the rest would be a menu on the screen. Um and I I also thought uh if we want to keep it small and nice um and actually I I quite like the idea of a scroll a scrolling button, I thought it could be for for voice like, I dunno, it mm like on a um i like it used to be on Walkmans or something. There is uh I think there is no reason why we couldn't use something like this for for the remote control. Earnest Libby: Mm-hmm. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Excellent. Okay, straight to trends, and then we can discuss it Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: all at once. James Landry: Okay, I've put the copy of the presentation in um the Robert Parker: The project documents. James Landry: yeah. Robert Parker: Excellent. If you two could both do that Earnest Libby: Mm-hmm. Robert Parker: as well, in case we need to refer to it. James Landry: Cool. Robert Parker: Here it comes. Robert Parker: Okay. James Landry: Fabulous. Okay, cool. Um so what I did was to search the internet to come up with market trends and you know what users are gonna be wanting in the the near future. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. James Landry: Okay. Right. Now, the first aspect is apparently twice as important as the second aspect, which is twice as important as the third a aspect. Robert Parker: Okay. James Landry: So, I mean the the easy to use thing is fairly low down on Earnest Libby: Mm-hmm. James Landry: the which I think given the target group is what you would expect, really. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. James Landry: Um, you know, people want something new, something technologically innovative and different, so the whole idea with the L_C_D_s and the spinning and the colours and the voice recognition is quite like, quite the thing to go for. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Okay. James Landry: And um, yeah it wants to look fancy, fancy look and feel. Earnest Libby: So James Landry: So Earnest Libby: um uh maybe uh as you're discussing things, is it okay if we Robert Parker: Yeah, Earnest Libby: just Robert Parker: yeah, Earnest Libby: uh Robert Parker: sure. Earnest Libby: keep James Landry: Yeah, Earnest Libby: highlighting things James Landry: yeah. Earnest Libby: here? Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: Right. So mm Robert Parker: That's Earnest Libby: uh Robert Parker: over on the interface, Earnest Libby: so it Robert Parker: if if Earnest Libby: yeah, Robert Parker: you could put Earnest Libby: so probably voice recognition is is kind of Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: important, right? Um Robert Parker: And maybe the L_C_D_ Earnest Libby: and Robert Parker: and spinning Earnest Libby: an yeah. Robert Parker: so Earnest Libby: Okay, Robert Parker: that Earnest Libby: I Robert Parker: means Earnest Libby: I Robert Parker: we Earnest Libby: have Robert Parker: need Earnest Libby: a Robert Parker: an Earnest Libby: point Robert Parker: advanced Earnest Libby: about L_C_D_, Robert Parker: thing. Earnest Libby: I dunno if it is the right point to take it up. W uh L_C_D_s are basically for feedback, right, to Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: the user who's pressing James Landry: Mm. Earnest Libby: buttons, and the feedback can come through television itself, so do we need an L_C_D_ on the remote? James Landry: Depends how fast your television runs, really, don't don't you think? I mean we've got one of those um Telewest boxes and Earnest Libby: Mm. James Landry: you put the number in the remote and then you wait and then it goes to the T_V_ and then you wait, and then it comes, so i it actually takes quite a long time. Robert Parker: Mm. James Landry: And Earnest Libby: Right. James Landry: if you get the number in wrong, then it's a bit of a pain, so I think, you know, a screen on the remote would probably cut down your time on that. But like remotes do tend to get f thrown about a bit. Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: It it is also James Landry: You know? Robert Parker: quite nice though to to have something here so you don't interrupt the picture on the screen, so if you're James Landry: Yeah. Robert Parker: watching something Earnest Libby: That's true, James Landry: And Earnest Libby: yeah, James Landry: i Earnest Libby: that's James Landry: it would Earnest Libby: also James Landry: be like I mean if you could make it integrate with the T_V_ then it could come up with new information about what's on, and you could just see that on the remote rather Robert Parker: Yeah. James Landry: than Robert Parker: Rather than having to interrupt your James Landry: Yeah. Robert Parker: viewing pleasure. James Landry: But Earnest Libby: Right. James Landry: um I think maybe a way to do it would be a similar way to how you have your mobile phone, you know, like you have the slidey ones and you have the flippy ones and then the screen's protected so it doesn't Robert Parker: Mm. James Landry: actually get scratched. Earnest Libby: Mm-hmm. James Landry: So you can have like what looks like a normal remote control, you know or Robert Parker: Yeah. James Landry: like a minimalist remote control. So you got your buttons one to nine, your on and off Earnest Libby: Mm right. James Landry: and your volume on that and then Robert Parker: And James Landry: if Robert Parker: then James Landry: you Robert Parker: you James Landry: want Robert Parker: can James Landry: to Robert Parker: flip James Landry: mess about Robert Parker: it open. James Landry: with it, you flip it open and, yeah. Earnest Libby: Okay. So now we seem to have a consensus that L_C_D_s are definitely the way to go Robert Parker: Yeah, Earnest Libby: because Robert Parker: I think Earnest Libby: of Robert Parker: so. Earnest Libby: style and James Landry: Yeah, so that kind of decides your whole chip thing. Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: You you agree? Maarika, Aaron Phillips: Yep, yeah. Earnest Libby: yeah? Yeah. Robert Parker: Right. Earnest Libby: So James Landry: Okay? Earnest Libby: L_C_D_s, yeah, definitely. Go on. James Landry: Cool. Okay, apparently, fruit and vegetables will be providing inspiration. Sorry, I discovered clip art. Um so these will be an important feature for clothes, shoes and furniture. So I mean, I'm taking this to mean, you know, curviness. Do you know? 'Cause you don't tend to get flat vegetables. Robert Parker: Yeah, and Earnest Libby: Mm-hmm. Robert Parker: possibly James Landry: You know? Robert Parker: even uneven, like James Landry: Yeah, Robert Parker: not James Landry: bit of asymmetry Robert Parker: not symmet yeah. James Landry: and stuff. But that would be a good way to to get in the whole um R_S_I_ issue in there, Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. James Landry: because Earnest Libby: Right. James Landry: I mean if you think most people use the remote control with their right hand ha right hands so you wanna you curve it so that it's suitable for use Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. James Landry: with the right hand. Earnest Libby: Mm. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. James Landry: Um yeah, I'm not quite sure about the relevance of material will be spongy. Um Robert Parker: Something a bit squishy and James Landry: Yeah, but I mean Earnest Libby: Yeah, we Aaron Phillips: So James Landry: y Earnest Libby: we Aaron Phillips: it James Landry: you Earnest Libby: have Aaron Phillips: could James Landry: have Aaron Phillips: be James Landry: to Aaron Phillips: like a rubbery Earnest Libby: we have rubber, Aaron Phillips: yeah, uh-huh. Earnest Libby: but there is a problem that I forgot to discuss with the um with using James Landry: Well I suppose you wouldn't get a remote uh an electric shock off your remote control if it was made of rubber. Robert Parker: Yeah, and it'd help if you drop it, it protects it as well. James Landry: Yeah, yeah. Robert Parker: To some degree. Earnest Libby: So if if we use uh latex cases, they won't allow us to use solar cells, as an energy source that is the constraint, Robert Parker: Uh-huh. Earnest Libby: so um we could use titanium, wood or plastic uh Robert Parker: Or if Earnest Libby: or Robert Parker: we want to use the Earnest Libby: uh Robert Parker: the latex, then we have to go with one of the other um James Landry: If Earnest Libby: Yeah, James Landry: it's Earnest Libby: w James Landry: made Robert Parker: power James Landry: of Earnest Libby: energy James Landry: rubber Robert Parker: things. James Landry: you Earnest Libby: source. James Landry: could get the kinetic energy fairly easily there, you Robert Parker: From James Landry: could just Earnest Libby: Yeah, Robert Parker: from James Landry: bounce Earnest Libby: tap it James Landry: it Robert Parker: bouncing Earnest Libby: on James Landry: up Earnest Libby: the desk, James Landry: and down. Robert Parker: it. Earnest Libby: yeah. Robert Parker: You can have it as like a little ball to bounce, that James Landry: Yeah. Robert Parker: flips open. James Landry: Um Earnest Libby: Mm. James Landry: so yeah, um Earnest Libby: So probably James Landry: okay. Earnest Libby: double curved surface is the way to go, yeah, James Landry: Yeah, Robert Parker: Mm yeah. James Landry: yeah. Earnest Libby: Or or curved at one end and flat on the top, because I I'm not sure if it is flat on both both the sides, then ho how much easy would it be to reach for buttons, etcetera. Um James Landry: You have to have a certain element of flatness, I think. Earnest Libby: Yeah. James Landry: It it depends on the whole ergonomics of it, you know, put your hands so y it's the least Earnest Libby: Yeah. James Landry: movement Earnest Libby: Yeah, James Landry: basically. Earnest Libby: singe Robert Parker: Uh-huh. Earnest Libby: single side curved or double side curved does not say too much, does it? It James Landry: No, I Earnest Libby: uh James Landry: d I don't think it makes a lot of difference. I I have one of those s slidey phones and I mean the back is essentially straight, Robert Parker: Mm. James Landry: but it's curvy, Earnest Libby: Mm. James Landry: so. Besides, Robert Parker: Yeah, Earnest Libby: Uh Robert Parker: 'cause James Landry: you have Robert Parker: the James Landry: four sides Earnest Libby: I think James Landry: to a Earnest Libby: uh James Landry: thing, so I mean Robert Parker: Yeah. James Landry: does curved one side mean one side is straight Earnest Libby: Right. James Landry: and, you know curved two sides means the whole thing is just a big curvy p thing? Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: Dunno. Earnest Libby: Di now did it say anywhere in your research material about this sliding stuff uh because um according to the information that I have, I think uh the onl only options that we have with the case is are these three. James Landry: Yeah. Earnest Libby: Uh eith either we have uh a flat surfaced uh case or a curved surfaced case. It does Robert Parker: Nothing Earnest Libby: not say anything Robert Parker: to Earnest Libby: about uh Robert Parker: open Earnest Libby: whether Robert Parker: them. Earnest Libby: technically, you know, this this stuff is available at all. James Landry: Yeah. Uh it's it's more about the protecting the L_C_D_, which I Earnest Libby: Right, James Landry: think is where it came Earnest Libby: yeah, James Landry: from. Earnest Libby: yeah. James Landry: But no, my research didn't tell James Landry anything, which is why we have all the pictures, 'cause I had nothing better to Earnest Libby: Right. James Landry: do with my time. Earnest Libby: Okay. James Landry: Okay, cool. Robert Parker: Anything else? What've we got? James Landry: Uh combine style with a level of functionality, um beauty and practicality and a thing of beauty and p function. Robert Parker: Okay, Earnest Libby: Cool, thanks. James Landry: Okay? Robert Parker: so. Aaron Phillips: Thanks Robert Parker: Looking at what we've got, we we want an L_C_D_ display with a spinning Earnest Libby: Yeah. Robert Parker: wheel. Earnest Libby: Let's let's try to r rub off Robert Parker: Yeah, Earnest Libby: things Robert Parker: rub off Earnest Libby: and Robert Parker: some Earnest Libby: yeah, Robert Parker: of those. Earnest Libby: so um hand dynamos are definitely out, right? You Aaron Phillips: Yeah Earnest Libby: you Robert Parker: Yeah, Earnest Libby: got a wind Aaron Phillips: uh-hum Earnest Libby: dynamo, Robert Parker: it's Aaron Phillips: yeah. Robert Parker: not Earnest Libby: yeah. Robert Parker: that's not streamlined and sexy, having Earnest Libby: Okay. Robert Parker: a having a wind Earnest Libby: Um Robert Parker: up. Earnest Libby: kinetic energy does seem to have some kind of uh Robert Parker: I think Earnest Libby: uh Robert Parker: tha Earnest Libby: appeal, but uh James Landry: It's Earnest Libby: it's James Landry: about the practicality of it really, isn't Earnest Libby: Yeah. James Landry: it? You know? Earnest Libby: As James Landry: I mean Earnest Libby: against James Landry: if Earnest Libby: a watch, which constantly keeps moving, this this thing will have to be tapped every time, which which might be very frustrating for the user. Robert Parker: Depends how much how much movement Earnest Libby: Kinetic energy Robert Parker: it really Earnest Libby: it Robert Parker: needs. Earnest Libby: needs Robert Parker: Pr Earnest Libby: I don't have too Robert Parker: presumably Earnest Libby: much technical information Robert Parker: if they're suggesting Earnest Libby: on that, yeah, Robert Parker: it, then we Earnest Libby: right. Robert Parker: could use it. Earnest Libby: Okay, let's keep it Robert Parker: I'd Earnest Libby: option Robert Parker: I'd keep Earnest Libby: uh keep Robert Parker: it Earnest Libby: an Robert Parker: on. Earnest Libby: option, yeah. Um the flat co completely flat case is definitely out, Robert Parker: We Earnest Libby: right? Robert Parker: don't want Earnest Libby: It Aaron Phillips: Yeah Robert Parker: that Earnest Libby: has Robert Parker: it's Earnest Libby: to Aaron Phillips: it's Robert Parker: no Earnest Libby: be at Robert Parker: it's Earnest Libby: least Aaron Phillips: yeah. Robert Parker: not Earnest Libby: curved from Robert Parker: not Earnest Libby: one Robert Parker: vegetable. Earnest Libby: side, yeah. Um okay, we still have all all the options. Wood, do you think wood Aaron Phillips: N Earnest Libby: will Aaron Phillips: wood Earnest Libby: be a good Aaron Phillips: is Earnest Libby: idea? Aaron Phillips: I can't n how do you uh I mean you can't keep it really small Earnest Libby: Mm. Aaron Phillips: uh you can't make it like thin and Earnest Libby: Right. Aaron Phillips: The Robert Parker: Mm. Aaron Phillips: wood James Landry: I Aaron Phillips: thing. James Landry: can't Aaron Phillips: Because James Landry: imagine Aaron Phillips: you need to James Landry: a m Aaron Phillips: you James Landry: wooden Aaron Phillips: n you need James Landry: remote Aaron Phillips: to put all James Landry: control. Aaron Phillips: the technology in, so I mean if the case you add the case and Earnest Libby: Yeah if Aaron Phillips: it Earnest Libby: if Aaron Phillips: it Earnest Libby: it is Aaron Phillips: becomes Earnest Libby: really Aaron Phillips: a bit Earnest Libby: thin Aaron Phillips: bulky wi mm-mm yeah. Earnest Libby: if it Robert Parker: Mm. Earnest Libby: is really thin it it's likely to break, it's Aaron Phillips: Yeah, Earnest Libby: it's much Aaron Phillips: yeah. Earnest Libby: more Robert Parker: Yeah, Aaron Phillips: Yeah. Earnest Libby: uh Robert Parker: and given that we're we're looking at more spongy material preferences, I ha would think maybe Aaron Phillips: U yeah Robert Parker: rubber Aaron Phillips: wood is Robert Parker: or Aaron Phillips: not Robert Parker: plastic Aaron Phillips: really Robert Parker: is more Earnest Libby: Right. Aaron Phillips: yeah. James Landry: Well it's not very cleanable either, Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: That's James Landry: do you Aaron Phillips: Yeah. James Landry: know. Earnest Libby: true. James Landry: It's it's not a practical I mean it's it's alright for a table, but for a remote control, you know. Earnest Libby: Yeah. James Landry: And splinters and stuff Earnest Libby: Yeah, James Landry: and Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: okay wood James Landry: It Earnest Libby: is James Landry: just Earnest Libby: out. James Landry: m doesn't make any sense, I think is Earnest Libby: Right. Aaron Phillips: Yeah, James Landry: the thing Aaron Phillips: yeah, James Landry: with wood. Aaron Phillips: in the case of remote control not really. Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: Okay, now for the really interesting stuff, the interface. Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: Right, so uh the the push-buttons is is our expertise uh in the industry, but uh it seems to be out of trend, you know, nobody seems James Landry: You have Earnest Libby: to Aaron Phillips: Yeah, James Landry: to Aaron Phillips: but Earnest Libby: be James Landry: have some push-buttons, Aaron Phillips: you James Landry: don't Aaron Phillips: um I think James Landry: you? Aaron Phillips: for for the channel numb uh channel numbers you still need them, Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Aaron Phillips: wouldn't you? James Landry: G yeah, Earnest Libby: Mm James Landry: yeah. Aaron Phillips: Yeah, Earnest Libby: right. Aaron Phillips: so for Earnest Libby: Oh, Aaron Phillips: channel Earnest Libby: if Aaron Phillips: numbers Earnest Libby: if Aaron Phillips: but Earnest Libby: we have L_C_D_ displays, that opens up a whole world, you know, if you have an L_C_D_ display, then mm you can select Aaron Phillips: But I Earnest Libby: almost Aaron Phillips: th Earnest Libby: everything on Aaron Phillips: yeah Earnest Libby: the L_C_D_ Aaron Phillips: but Earnest Libby: display. Aaron Phillips: I think the L_C_D_ Robert Parker: Just for Aaron Phillips: display Robert Parker: fast Aaron Phillips: is kind of yeah, it's faster with a m yeah and w if we dis and when we s um discussed that we might like this flipping open thing, then Earnest Libby: Right. Aaron Phillips: I mean Robert Parker: Yeah. Aaron Phillips: y you can use it as a normal remote control, Earnest Libby: Okay. Robert Parker: Yeah. Aaron Phillips: but if you do want to use L_C_D_, then you flip it open, but it's it it's James Landry: Yeah. Aaron Phillips: more time-consuming. Robert Parker: Yeah. James Landry: I think this is going back to the the graph at the beginning that I made, where, you know, the buttons that people use all the time, you want buttons for them Earnest Libby: Mm right. Aaron Phillips: Yeah. James Landry: and everything Robert Parker: And it James Landry: else Robert Parker: yeah James Landry: menu-driven. Robert Parker: L_ L_C_D_. Earnest Libby: So uh in in the buttons we have for the channels also we have options. Do you do we enumerate everything from zero to nine? Or do we have just uh channel plus, channel minus, just Aaron Phillips: No, Earnest Libby: to Aaron Phillips: no, Earnest Libby: just to scroll? Aaron Phillips: I mean mm we we definitely need the the numbers, because Earnest Libby: The numbers. Aaron Phillips: it's uh James Landry: Yeah. Aaron Phillips: otherwise people don't want to flip through all the channels. James Landry: Yeah. Robert Parker: Do we Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: need Aaron Phillips: Um Robert Parker: them on as buttons or Earnest Libby: Or Robert Parker: do we need them as L_C_D_? Earnest Libby: on the L_C_D_ we can, you James Landry: G yeah, Earnest Libby: know Aaron Phillips: Yeah, I would say James Landry: I would think Aaron Phillips: buttons, James Landry: buttons, yeah. Aaron Phillips: because Robert Parker: Buttons. Aaron Phillips: it's yeah. James Landry: It's Earnest Libby: Okay. James Landry: it's the Aaron Phillips: I James Landry: I think Earnest Libby: So James Landry: the thing is, so if Earnest Libby: mm James Landry: someone just wants to turn on their T_V_ Robert Parker: Mm. James Landry: and put on a channel, then Robert Parker: Yeah. James Landry: it should be easier to Aaron Phillips: Yeah. James Landry: use than any other remote, and then if someone wants to, you know, change the contrast on their T_V_ and Earnest Libby: Alright. James Landry: they should be able to do that and it should be accessible, but, Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. James Landry: you know, I mean most of the time I mean there's a limit to how much the biggest techno geek can spend fiddling with the T_V_, Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: Right. James Landry: I think is the the the issue there. Earnest Libby: Okay, so buttons definitely in but oh shall we uh try to draw a prec um Robert Parker: I think that's what you guys are gonna do next, Earnest Libby: Uh okay. Robert Parker: so if we put down the key Earnest Libby: Okay, Robert Parker: um Earnest Libby: okay, Aaron Phillips: Yeah. Earnest Libby: so the Robert Parker: things Earnest Libby: components. Right, Robert Parker: that Earnest Libby: so Robert Parker: we want. Earnest Libby: uh what about the the scrolling uh? Aaron Phillips: Yeah but n I I'm not completely um completely clear uh I yeah, about the spinning wheel. So I think it it doesn't make sense to have both like a scrolling James Landry: E Aaron Phillips: and spinning James Landry: either Aaron Phillips: thing, it's James Landry: or Aaron Phillips: uh you can al include everything in the spinning if you Robert Parker: Just spinning James Landry: G Aaron Phillips: yeah, James Landry: yeah. Robert Parker: and not scrolling, Aaron Phillips: yeah, Robert Parker: I would say. Aaron Phillips: in James Landry: I Aaron Phillips: that James Landry: would Aaron Phillips: case. James Landry: say the s the s the spinning goes at a high speed to th to Robert Parker: Yeah. James Landry: the scrolling wheel, so you have to decide whether you you know, you want to be going so fast or not. But I mean the the thing with this whole if y you're planning on making it out of rubber, on the basis that it's spongy, Robert Parker: Hmm. James Landry: then I'm not sure how well a scrolling wheel would work. Earnest Libby: Mm um Robert Parker: But if you've got a if Aaron Phillips: Ah, but I mean you can Robert Parker: if you've got a flipped thing, effectively it's something that's curved on one side and flat on the other side, but you folded James Landry: Yeah, Robert Parker: it in James Landry: but Robert Parker: half. James Landry: y your spinning wheel tends Robert Parker: Th James Landry: to go to one side. Robert Parker: that would be on one side, uh-huh. Earnest Libby: I'm not sure it'll be a good idea to construct the whole thing out of rubber. Aaron Phillips: Yeah, I Earnest Libby: Uh Aaron Phillips: um Robert Parker: No, Aaron Phillips: I think Earnest Libby: i it Aaron Phillips: so too, Robert Parker: I Aaron Phillips: I Robert Parker: think Aaron Phillips: mean Robert Parker: it's Aaron Phillips: the Robert Parker: just Aaron Phillips: case Robert Parker: the casing Aaron Phillips: would be yeah James Landry: You want Robert Parker: rubber Aaron Phillips: the case James Landry: an Robert Parker: on James Landry: outside Aaron Phillips: would Robert Parker: the Aaron Phillips: be Robert Parker: outside. Aaron Phillips: rubber James Landry: of rubber Aaron Phillips: and the James Landry: and then Aaron Phillips: the buttons, James Landry: open it up Earnest Libby: Or James Landry: and Earnest Libby: or at Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: the corners, Aaron Phillips: rubber buttons, Earnest Libby: edges, Aaron Phillips: but then Earnest Libby: just the edges covered by rubber or something Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: like that. Everything else in plastic Aaron Phillips: Yeah. Earnest Libby: or even titanium if we want to use it. James Landry: Or maybe like interchangeable cases. Earnest Libby: Mm-hmm. James Landry: 'Cause I know like we're going back to iPods again n the whole spinning wheel, but I have like a you know, obviously my iPod's not made of rubber, but then I have a little rubber case that goes over the top of it and Earnest Libby: Right, James Landry: I can Robert Parker: Mm. James Landry: change the colour, Earnest Libby: right. James Landry: theoretically, to match my outfit. Earnest Libby: Right, okay, so so that gives us a more trendy look as well. Um James Landry: Yeah, I think the spinning wheel is definitely very now. Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Yeah, Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: and uh we're going more for the trends than for the usability anyway, Robert Parker: That's right, James Landry: Yeah. Robert Parker: that's what Earnest Libby: right? Robert Parker: they're after. Earnest Libby: So I'll rub that out. And uh colours can be provided with the case rather than Um Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: but we still need to te think about the colour of our remote as such, you know, just keep Aaron Phillips: Yeah Earnest Libby: it black, Aaron Phillips: I think Earnest Libby: or Aaron Phillips: we um it was a a requirement that we use our um th the colours of our company, so would it be like yellow, grey and black or something, or Robert Parker: I guess. James Landry: That doesn't fit in Aaron Phillips: Yeah, does James Landry: with the whole vegetable theme though. Robert Parker: Bananas. Aaron Phillips: Yeah. Banana's yellow, yeah, James Landry: Yeah, Aaron Phillips: definitely. James Landry: but I mean do you think we could incorporate the colours of the company into the buttons and then make the colour of the main remote the colour like vegetable colours, do you know? So Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. James Landry: you could have like I mean I suppose vegetable colours would be orange and green Robert Parker: Green. James Landry: and some reds and um maybe Robert Parker: Yeah. James Landry: purple and that and then you'd pick the buttons in company colours to to match Earnest Libby: Mm. James Landry: with it. Earnest Libby: Okay. Um okay, if you g go over to uh the integrated circuits. Uh since we're having L_C_D_s there there's no way that we're Robert Parker: yeah. Earnest Libby: will be able to um what we do need to consider, however, is that the price is going up for the ever every such thing that we are considering, Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: but since L_C_D_s seems to be uh a definite yes, so Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: it seems to be one area where we would want to spend. So I'll rub off the other Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: two. James Landry: So are we discounting solar energy because rubber's gonna be used in there somewhere or Robert Parker: That was the Earnest Libby: Oh is oh the constraint was uh Robert Parker: We James Landry: If Robert Parker: can't have Earnest Libby: yeah. James Landry: solar panels Robert Parker: solar James Landry: with Robert Parker: panels James Landry: the rubber. Earnest Libby: Yeah. Robert Parker: with rubber, Earnest Libby: So Robert Parker: so. James Landry: Yeah, okay, so we lose that I think. Robert Parker: Shall we go for if we're going for rubber, we think uh on as our case, Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. Robert Parker: and then Aaron Phillips: And the buttons as well, I think. Robert Parker: Yeah. Aaron Phillips: Yeah. Earnest Libby: I think Robert Parker: We've Earnest Libby: uh Robert Parker: got five more minutes. Earnest Libby: we'll have uh uh using the simple battery will be a safer option as compared to the kinetic energy one, I Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: mean, a although it does seem uh interesting. James Landry: Yeah. Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: But it does not hold any advantages as Robert Parker: Yeah, Earnest Libby: such James Landry: It's Earnest Libby: for James Landry: just a Earnest Libby: a James Landry: gimmick. Robert Parker: mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: yeah. Okay. Uh okay, so r we understand this better now that uh the the speaker is for the feedback, right? Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: It it says uh the things that you type in or something like that, Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: so Robert Parker: I think if we can if we can include them at not too much extra Earnest Libby: Ye Robert Parker: cost, Earnest Libby: yeah, Robert Parker: then I'd put them in, Earnest Libby: we Robert Parker: but if Earnest Libby: we Robert Parker: it's Earnest Libby: don't have too much information about it, Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: um Aaron Phillips: Yeah, but it it I think it should be quite cheap because it's from our own Robert Parker: It's Aaron Phillips: company, Robert Parker: from the company, Aaron Phillips: yeah. Earnest Libby: Yeah, okay, Robert Parker: so Earnest Libby: so so th this is in as well then, the Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: sample speaker. Robert Parker: Okay. Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: And the case is curved on one side, but then Earnest Libby: Flat Robert Parker: flat Earnest Libby: on the top. Robert Parker: flat, so it's flipped into Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. Earnest Libby: Yeah. Robert Parker: each other. Earnest Libby: Okay. Robert Parker: Can I pull the James Landry: Yeah, Robert Parker: thing James Landry: sure Robert Parker: out the back of your James Landry: j Robert Parker: computer? Just so we can James Landry: Sorry, do you want James Landry to Robert Parker: Nothing, it's right, I'm just There we go. James Landry: What does um I_C_S_ mean? Earnest Libby: I_C_s? Uh integrated circuits. James Landry: Okay, cool. So it's advanced integrated circuits? Earnest Libby: Yeah. Robert Parker: Uh oh now I've gone too far. Earnest Libby: Uh um we we're definitely going in for voice recognition as well as Aaron Phillips: Yeah. Earnest Libby: L_C_D_s, Robert Parker: Yeah. Earnest Libby: mm. Robert Parker: We're on our way. Robert Parker: Okay. So we've basically worked out that we're going with a simple battery, the advanced chip Earnest Libby: Right. Robert Parker: and a curved on one side case which is folded in on itself, Earnest Libby: Yep. Robert Parker: um made out of rubber and the buttons are also rubber. We're having push-buttons on the outside and then on the inside an L_C_D_ with spinning wheel, and we're incorporating voice recognition. That's our overall concept, Aaron Phillips: Um Robert Parker: and it's gonna look sort of vegetable, and be in bright vegetable colours. Aaron Phillips: Uh-huh. So w w would with have the spinning wheel inside with the L_C_D_, or would it be on the outer Robert Parker: I think James Landry: Imagine Robert Parker: it's on James Landry: it would Robert Parker: the James Landry: be inside. Aaron Phillips: Okay. James Landry: So um actually that could Earnest Libby: Mm. James Landry: like really cut down your thing, so you've got your outside, which is like minimalist, Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. James Landry: and then you open it up and Aaron Phillips: Yeah, James Landry: you've got Aaron Phillips: okay. James Landry: a screen and a spinning wheel, which you can incorporate buttons into. Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. Robert Parker: Mm-mm. James Landry: Um so you've Robert Parker: Yeah. James Landry: still not got like a lot of stuff in the Robert Parker: On the James Landry: You've maybe got, you know like if you're modelling on iPod you've got five buttons and Robert Parker: Mm-hmm. James Landry: a wheel, and four of the buttons are in the wheel, and the other one's the little bit inside the Robert Parker: In James Landry: wheel, Robert Parker: the centre, yeah, James Landry: yeah. Aaron Phillips: Mm yeah. Robert Parker: sure. Okay, so now we've got thirty minutes before our next meeting. In the meantime, Earnest Libby over here is gonna work on the look and feel design, Earnest Libby: Mm-hmm. Robert Parker: which I'll presume he'll work out what that means. Um Aaron Phillips will work on the user interface design and James Landry is going to work on product evaluation. And as well as that, the two designers are going to work together on our prototype following those instructions that we've just come up with using modelling clay and you will get extra Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. Robert Parker: instructions from your Earnest Libby: Cool. Robert Parker: personal coach. Is that all okay? And anyone Aaron Phillips: Yeah. Robert Parker: who hasn't put their their presentation in the project documents Earnest Libby: Yeah, Robert Parker: folder, Earnest Libby: okay. Robert Parker: it would be good just so in case Aaron Phillips: Mm-hmm. Robert Parker: we have to refer to it. James Landry: Cool, I'm gonna go and sit on my own. Robert Parker: Y ah nobody wants to talk to you. James Landry: I know, Robert Parker: Unplug yourself. James Landry: I'm hated. Aaron Phillips: Hmm. James Landry: I've got a bit tangled up in all this. Aaron Phillips: So but shall I move away first or shall I stay here with Robert Parker: I dunno, maybe Aaron Phillips: we need to Robert Parker: I would car

Robert Parker opens the meeting by stating the agenda. Earnest Libby begins presenting, first describing the insides of a remote control. He lists the options for types of batteries, shapes for the remote case, materials to use, and functions to include such as push buttons, scroll wheels, and LCD screens. He then talks about the type of chip certain features would require. The interface specialist begins presenting, first defining user interface and then showing some examples of remotes. She mentions that many existing remotes do not have a nice appearance, and states her preference for a remote that is small and simple and contains a scrolling wheel. James Landry gives her presentation about user requirements and current trends. She shares that fruits and vegetables are popular, meaning curviness and assymetry are in. The group decides to use LCD screens to give the remote style. They discuss what material should be used, talk about how the surface of the case should look, and plan out the general user interface. After they make some decisions about the remote, Robert Parker closes the meeting by telling them what their tasks will be until the next meeting.

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Clifford Smiley: Mm-hmm? Clifford Smiley: Okay. Clifford Smiley: Ooh. Tom Mejia: So we're 'kay? On the or No. I dunno where to put it 'cause the Okay. Could you s take it off? Armand Larson: Is that alright? or Okay. Tom Mejia: Okay. Armand Larson: Keeps coming off. 'S fiddly. Clifford Smiley: Hmm. Armand Larson: Right. Clifford Smiley: How we sta wa how do we start Does anybody know? Armand Larson: Oh, another one. Clifford Smiley: So that's this Oh okay, right. Tom Mejia: Are we free to take notes uh Okay. Clifford Smiley: Uh. Clifford Smiley: Hmm. Okay, just hang on a second everybody. I haven't actually looked at this yet. Armand Larson: Ah. Clifford Smiley: um Armand Larson: Very nice. Clifford Smiley: I haven't looked at it, but let's just start it off and we'll see what happens. If you're all ready. Jason Isbell: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: So is the agenda? Opening, acquaintance, tool training and project plan then closing. Project aim is a new remote control. It's original, uh trendy and it's user-friendly. Armand Larson: 'Kay. Clifford Smiley: Project method, functional design, individual work, another meeting, conceptual design, individual work, and a meeting of details design, individual work and a meeting. Tool training. Try out the whiteboard, every participant should draw their favourite animal and sum up their favourite characteristics of that animal. Armand Larson: Okay. Clifford Smiley: Um. Uh Miss Industrial Designer, would you like to Tom Mejia: Okay. Clifford Smiley: go first? Tom Mejia: So are we supposed to bring the little things for the Clifford Smiley: Yeah, why don't you just c, I think just clip on clip do you have a belt? Armand Larson: Clip. Tom Mejia: Mm. Clifford Smiley: Or put 'em in your pocket, Tom Mejia: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: yeah. Tom Mejia: okay. So my favourite animal Clifford Smiley: Yeah, what's your favourite animal? Tom Mejia: 'Kay um Armand Larson: Ah. Clifford Smiley: Is it rude? Armand Larson: It's an elephant. Clifford Smiley: That's a very good elephant. Jason Isbell: The back end of an elephant. Armand Larson: Oh my gosh, I'm never gonna be able to draw that well. Clifford Smiley: 'Kay, and you want to write up on there, it says you've gotta sum up your f f your favourite characteristics of that animal. Tom Mejia: Um okay, it's big, it's got a great memory. Armand Larson: Does it? Oh. Tom Mejia: Supposed to have a great memory, Clifford Smiley: Mm. Armand Larson: Mm. Tom Mejia: And uh dunno know why but looks like nice to Armand Larson. Clifford Smiley: Okay. Tom Mejia: Nice animal. Clifford Smiley: Wonderful, well done. Do you want to use the wipe the m the Tom Mejia: Okay. Clifford Smiley: wiper and wipe it off? And Mister aesthetics designer do you wanna Jason Isbell: Aesthetic Clifford Smiley: go next? Jason Isbell: yep, Armand Larson: I have no Jason Isbell: sure. Armand Larson: idea what my favourite animal is. Jason Isbell: 'Kay, my favourite animal, uh let's see. Armand Larson: Oh. It's Jason Isbell: Dunno if any of you have seen Napoleon Dynamite before. It's a liger, Clifford Smiley: No. Armand Larson: A what? Jason Isbell: a combination of a lion and tiger. Armand Larson: Alright. Jason Isbell: Have Armand Larson: How. Jason Isbell: you not seen Napoleon Dynamite? Clifford Smiley: No. Tom Mejia: No. Armand Larson: No. Jason Isbell: Oh it's a hilarious movie. You have to see it. And and it's best characteristic is it's pretty much the awesomest animal. But you have to see the movie to fully appreciate it. Clifford Smiley: Okay, well done. Armand Larson: Great. Armand Larson? Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Miss mar Miss Marketing? Armand Larson: Okay. quite sure how this is gonna work. Cool. Uh well I'll try my best to draw. Armand Larson: Can I just draw the face? Clifford Smiley: Um yeah, I think you can just draw the face, but then you'll have to describe in writing how the rest of it looks. Armand Larson: Ooh. It's a cat. Clifford Smiley: That's a very pr pretty cat. Armand Larson: Which also has what? A big fat body and big and a long tail. Clifford Smiley: Okay, do y do you wanna do some write you wanna just write some words about it? Armand Larson: Why? Because um cuddly. And usually cats are very friendly. Usually. And they're healing as well. They heal. And they can feel when a human's Clifford Smiley: Wow, Armand Larson: got problems so Clifford Smiley: so they're kinda spiritual. Armand Larson: So, that's why I like cats. Clifford Smiley: Well done. Armand Larson: There we are, that's Armand Larson. Clifford Smiley: Okay. Armand Larson: Mm. Clifford Smiley: Um, I don't actually have a favourite animal, but for the for th for this meeting I'll s draw a little Armand Larson: Mm-hmm. Clifford Smiley: Uh. I honestly can't draw for toffee. Uh. Tom Mejia: Really? Oh Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Tom Mejia: that's a Clifford Smiley: no Jason Isbell: A prairie dog? Clifford Smiley: no uh Jason Isbell: Oh a squirrel? Clifford Smiley: That's exactly what it is. Uh not a very good one Tom Mejia: Not bad I would say. Jason Isbell: Yeah, that's pretty good. Clifford Smiley: Okay, well, you got it's a s It's a squirrel, and I like them, because they're cute and stupid. Tom Mejia: Very good. Armand Larson: Ah. Jason Isbell: Alright. Clifford Smiley: Right. Okay, so, I guess that was the test to see if this equipment is all working. Mm. Let's move on to the next page. Okay, project finance, selling price twenty five Euros, profit aim fifty million Euros. Armand Larson: Market range internationally sold. Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Production cost, ah right it's gotta be Armand Larson: Ah right Clifford Smiley: can't Armand Larson: okay. Clifford Smiley: cost any more than twelve fifty to make. experience with with remote control, so talk about who who's used what. Any ideas? Stuff like that. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes. At quarter to twelve. Jason Isbell: So I think before we close uh, we are expected I mean the last slide wanted us to maybe discuss longer what our what our ideas where. I mean if you wanna go back to the last slide. Uh Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Armand Larson: Yeah. Jason Isbell: S Yeah, I think we're I mean before we close the meeting, we're supposed to come up with some ideas for Clifford Smiley: Oh k so we're actually supposed to be doing this discussion like right now are we Armand Larson: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: or Jason Isbell: Yeah. Tom Mejia: Mm. Clifford Smiley: oh okay. Jason Isbell: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: I thought this was just t giving us instructions for the re to do next, Jason Isbell: Yeah, Clifford Smiley: but Jason Isbell: I think this is just the preliminary, get some rough ideas for what our experiences with remote controls have been and and what we would roughly what we would incorporate into a new one maybe. Clifford Smiley: Okay. Right, who's got experiences with remote controls then? Pretty much everybody. Tom Mejia: Yeah. Jason Isbell: Yeah, I think we've all got Armand Larson: Uh. Clifford Smiley: Um. Tom Mejia: Is this a T_V_ one we are supposed to make? Armand Larson: Yeah. Yeah it's a T_V_ remote control. Tom Mejia: Okay. Clifford Smiley: 'Kay Armand Larson: Well. Clifford Smiley: um. Tom Mejia: T Armand Larson: A new remote control for T_V_. What would I like? Clifford Smiley: W what Armand Larson: Um. Clifford Smiley: You want it big do you want it small. Armand Larson: Medium. Clifford Smiley: Are we are we going for like like telephones are going little teeny tiny things or we are going for something that's Jason Isbell: Mm. Clifford Smiley: that's big and Jason Isbell: Yeah it seems like there's like there's sort of a tension between two ideas, I mean, you want you want one remote that maybe can work uh all all of the functions of T_V_ and if you have whatever associated with T_V_ the D_V_D_ player, or Clifford Smiley: Video Jason Isbell: something like that, Clifford Smiley: and ts hi-fi Jason Isbell: but like at Clifford Smiley: and Jason Isbell: the Clifford Smiley: stuff. Jason Isbell: same time you don't wanna really busy remote with a thousand buttons on it or something. Clifford Smiley: Maybe you Jason Isbell: Mm. Clifford Smiley: yeah now th that's the other thing is it's gotta be cheap. Jason Isbell: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: 'Cause I I I mean I was thinking something that's got different like maybe a a an L_C_D_ display on it that's got different pages for different devices, Armand Larson: Mm. Clifford Smiley: but that would p that would probably be quite expensive. Tom Mejia: But how do we know how much uh, I mean, how much do we have per how Armand Larson: Twelve Tom Mejia: much? Armand Larson: fifty. Tom Mejia: Twelve Jason Isbell: It Tom Mejia: fifty. Jason Isbell: g can't be more Armand Larson: Each. Jason Isbell: than twelve fifty per unit. Clifford Smiley: Per unit, yeah. Jason Isbell: Cost. Tom Mejia: So do we have to be realistic within the budget or Clifford Smiley: Well Tom Mejia: Close Clifford Smiley: at the Armand Larson: Guess Clifford Smiley: moment Tom Mejia: pr I don't Clifford Smiley: we could, Tom Mejia: know Clifford Smiley: wa Tom Mejia: how Clifford Smiley: I Tom Mejia: much Clifford Smiley: mean we Tom Mejia: it Clifford Smiley: 'cause Tom Mejia: would Clifford Smiley: we Tom Mejia: cost. Clifford Smiley: this Tom Mejia: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: is what we th what we're doing at the moment is just saying what what we'd like, and then after we after we've found out what we can like, some different ideas, we can then go and do the research to find out if these any of these ideas are feasible Tom Mejia: Right. Clifford Smiley: or not. So would be nice to have something that that controls lots of different things. Jason Isbell: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: Um. Armand Larson: Couldn't we have like one that comes out? Like so you have one in like Tom Mejia: Yeah. Armand Larson: mm it doesn't have to be really thick. I mean remote controls can be thin bits. And then you have one for your D_V_D_ and you sort of slide it out, and then you have another one, you slide it out. Clifford Smiley: 'Kay. Armand Larson: have slides. And then it all comes compact Clifford Smiley: Okay, that's. Armand Larson: into one. So it's not you actually just putting three or four different remotes together but making them thinner, and um into one basically. Clifford Smiley: Th that's an idea. Jason Isbell: Yeah. Armand Larson: So you just flip them out. Clifford Smiley: Okay. Tom Mejia: Um have uh one very complicated one on one side with all the D_V_D_ and V_C_R_ access and stuff, and then on the other side o one uh a remote control that would be very very simple with just the channel, program plus and minus, and the just the mute button, for example. I can real keep it really really simple on one side and the other side be very complicated. Clifford Smiley: One side for kids, one side for adults. Tom Mejia: Yeah. Jason Isbell: I'm not sure Tom Mejia: Or grandma Jason Isbell: if that's like Tom Mejia: as well, you know it's like what is Jason Isbell: I'm Tom Mejia: the Jason Isbell: not Tom Mejia: mute Jason Isbell: sure if Tom Mejia: button. Jason Isbell: it's a good idea to have a two sided remote though, 'cause it would be very hard to use in the way that you Tom Mejia: No, but you Jason Isbell: mani Tom Mejia: would slide Jason Isbell: manipulate Tom Mejia: it Jason Isbell: it. Tom Mejia: into uh someth like something on the back would hold like you wouldn't Jason Isbell: Oh. Tom Mejia: be able to press the buttons, Jason Isbell: Oh okay. Clifford Smiley: Like Tom Mejia: but Clifford Smiley: it or Jason Isbell: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: something like a flip telephone, something like that maybe. Jason Isbell: Okay. Armand Larson: That would be cool. I was thinking Clifford Smiley: F flip Armand Larson: that Clifford Smiley: it open Armand Larson: like a Clifford Smiley: and you've Armand Larson: flip. Clifford Smiley: got all the buttons, or you flip it closed and you've just got the basic buttons on the outside maybe. Jason Isbell: Mm-hmm. Clifford Smiley: Um, oh we've got five minutes left. Tom Mejia: Start breaking up. Armand Larson: Okay. Clifford Smiley: But okay. Armand Larson: Um. Clifford Smiley: Well we've got a k we've got a few ideas there. Jason Isbell: Yeah, we should uh I guess by the end of this meeting we should have at least a a rough conception you know stage one was technical functions design, what effect the apparatus should have. Okay. Um so I mean we still have time in our next meeting to come up with the actual concept for the user interface, but the the functions that we're sure that we want are that it can control the T_V_, but also devices connected to the to the T_V_, I mean, Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Jason Isbell: be able to operate D_V_D_ players, things like that. Clifford Smiley: I have got I think we should also have a back-up plan of I 'cause I I I just think that it might be expensive to make something that I mean we don't, we haven't been told it has to be something that will control everything. Jason Isbell: Yeah. Tom Mejia: Yeah. Jason Isbell: Okay. Right. Clifford Smiley: What do you reckon? Jason Isbell: Yeah, I mean. Clifford Smiley: See 'cause, I'm just thinking bearing in mind th we've gotta we have to have something that's cheap to make. Jason Isbell: Yeah, that's true, maybe we should just concentrate on having a a good T_V_ remote, and have it be um Clifford Smiley: I think we'll be able to come up with ideas and stuff a lot quicker. Jason Isbell: have it be like ergonomic Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Jason Isbell: so it's comfortable to use, uh simple to use, and looks decent Clifford Smiley: May Jason Isbell: and Clifford Smiley: w you Armand Larson: But what'll Clifford Smiley: know, maybe Armand Larson: make Clifford Smiley: even Armand Larson: it what'll make it interesting for people to buy though? Clifford Smiley: Or Armand Larson: I mean Clifford Smiley: maybe Armand Larson: if it's Clifford Smiley: even Armand Larson: if Clifford Smiley: so Armand Larson: it's Clifford Smiley: something Armand Larson: just like Clifford Smiley: that's for disabled people or so people that uh b don't see very well or big buttons for touchy buttons for Jason Isbell: Sorta find a niche for our remote, like market it to a certain Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Jason Isbell: kind Tom Mejia: Yeah. Jason Isbell: of p kind of people, certain Clifford Smiley: Or just Jason Isbell: certain demographic Clifford Smiley: one that looks really fucking cool. Armand Larson: Mm-hmm. Jason Isbell: Yeah, no Tom Mejia: Could Jason Isbell: I think Tom Mejia: be Jason Isbell: you're Tom Mejia: really Jason Isbell: right. Tom Mejia: light or, I dunno, something special. Jason Isbell: Yeah, rathe rather than focus on Clifford Smiley: Otherwise Jason Isbell: Y Clifford Smiley: we'll be we'll be here all day talking about do this let's do Jason Isbell: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: that n I think we sh I think Tom Mejia: Yeah, Clifford Smiley: we Tom Mejia: 'cause Clifford Smiley: should Tom Mejia: at the end of the day if it says just T_V_ remote, doesn't say com combination Jason Isbell: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Tom Mejia: with all all the r Clifford Smiley: I mean obviously everyone we're uh you know uh sounds like we're all a bit sort of gadget heads and we like things that do everything at once, but you know, that's Jason Isbell: Remotes spinning out from other remotes and Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Armand Larson: Mm. Jason Isbell: having little nested remotes inside. Clifford Smiley: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I mean I'd like one that makes tea as well, but that's not gonna happen. Armand Larson: I think a flip up thing, 'cause you always have this problem of like if it's on this well I did anyway, like we had five or six remotes and they would be lying on the c on the coach, and you'd come and sit down and ooh, the telephone's the television switched on or something. So maybe something that like does have a lid or closes, so you don't accidentally press a button or Clifford Smiley: Okay, like Armand Larson: record Clifford Smiley: a lock Armand Larson: button Clifford Smiley: f like Armand Larson: for something. Clifford Smiley: a lock functs function on it like you have on your telephones, Armand Larson: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: yeah. Armand Larson: But make it like really snazzy and cool people will want it. So make it Yeah. Clifford Smiley: Yeah, it's gotta be sellable. Armand Larson: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Jason Isbell: Yeah, that's true what you were saying, I mean it doesn't have to have a flip function, it can just have a lock function, so Armand Larson: Mm. Jason Isbell: that it's Clifford Smiley: Yeah. Tom Mejia: Mm. Jason Isbell: not uh not usable when you don't want it to be usable. Armand Larson: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: Okay. Armand Larson: And even for kids as well. It's um it's safer for them, I guess. Like they don't flick onto channels and all that sl flick onto. Clifford Smiley: No porn channel for children. Tom Mejia: Okay. Clifford Smiley: Okay. Um alright, so we've got some ideas, we've got um Jason Isbell: I guess that's Clifford Smiley: Let's move on. Jason Isbell: good good for now. Armand Larson: Mm. Clifford Smiley: Oops, let's close that. Next meeting, uh Armand Larson: W Clifford Smiley: okay. Armand Larson: What does I_D_V_I_D_N_M_E_ stand for? Clifford Smiley: Industrial Designer Armand Larson: Ah Clifford Smiley: um Armand Larson: ri okay. Clifford Smiley: which is Armand Larson: these are requirement specification. Tom Mejia: That's Clifford Smiley: Um. Armand Larson: And I'm marketing. Tom Mejia: Mm. Clifford Smiley: Yeah, there you go. So User Interface Designer, that's Jason Isbell: That's Armand Larson. Clifford Smiley: that's Jason Isbell: Okay. Clifford Smiley: that's you, so you gotta you go, you're you're gonna be the one that's working out what what buttons Jason Isbell: Right. Clifford Smiley: we need. Jason Isbell: Right. Clifford Smiley: Um. Industrial Designer, you are the one, you know, you're gonna be working out kind of box it goes in, I guess so, um whether it's what goes into the box, somehow. Tom Mejia: Mm. Har how it works an Clifford Smiley: And in marketing Armand Larson: These Tom Mejia: Bu Armand Larson: are requirement specification. Clifford Smiley: User requirements specifications. Armand Larson: So what the user requires Clifford Smiley: Yeah, Tom Mejia: Do you think Armand Larson: in Clifford Smiley: what Armand Larson: a remote. Tom Mejia: our two kind of overlap, Clifford Smiley: Right, okay, yeah. Tom Mejia: because Jason Isbell: Yeah, it does Armand Larson: I Jason Isbell: seem Armand Larson: guess Jason Isbell: like our Armand Larson: that's Clifford Smiley: You Jason Isbell: our Clifford Smiley: two Armand Larson: what Jason Isbell: responsibilities Armand Larson: it says. Jason Isbell: have Clifford Smiley: you two are gonna Jason Isbell: some Clifford Smiley: be Jason Isbell: overlap. Clifford Smiley: just, I think, you just double up, you know, Tom Mejia: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: you working Jason Isbell: Yeah. Clifford Smiley: together. You're the one that's gotta go and find out do th do the research, see what people want in a remote, what buttons are used more often, and s Armand Larson: Mm. Clifford Smiley: stuff like that. 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Richard Bartell: All set? Okay. Cool. Right. So um basically I'm just gonna go over real quickly um some news I've just got from the board on how we're supposed to do with this um remote control. And then I'm gonna turn over to you guys to make brief presentations um on what you've found and then we'll have a bit of discussion. So basically uh what I've just found out from the board I dunno if you guys got this email as well but it needs to be television only. So no we're not doing D_V_D_, Ezra Sullivan: Okay. Richard Bartell: we're not doing anything else, it's just gonna be a television remote. Um it also needs to have the company colours included in it. Um so that's red and black. And it has to have the slogan, case you guys forget the slogan it's, we put fashion in electronics. Um and no teletext. I'm not sure what teletext is but I'm assuming you guys do, so we don't wanna include that um in this particular design. For reasons that I don't really know. There's but it's the board so there you go. So basically um given those guidelines which will have some effect on how we design we'll discuss it later I mean 'cause it's television only we'll be able to change our uh um well we can s sacrifice more function for a better television remote. Anyway. So I'm gonna turn over to Albert Peachey uh to go ahead and make a presentation on Albert Peachey: Okay. So do I unplug Ezra Sullivan: Gotta Richard Bartell: Oh, Ezra Sullivan: plug Richard Bartell: right yeah. Ezra Sullivan: you in. Albert Peachey: this bit here? Richard Bartell: Yep. Richard Bartell: Might have to hit function F_ eight but it looks like it's gonna come up. Yep. Cool. Albert Peachey: Okay. Right. That's page one of my presentation. Richard Bartell: Brilliant. Ezra Sullivan: Very nice For. your first PowerPoint it's lovely. Albert Peachey: So the uh method. We're gonna have to understand how remote controls work and res uh successfully complete this project. Um remote control works as follows. This is all pretty basic stuff you guys. Um sends message to another system, so there's an energy source involved in that like a battery or solar power, something along those lines, there's an integrated circuit, which is the microchip, actually compose the messages and usually the way a a remote control works is it sends infrared bits to another system. A user interface controls the chip, basically that's the casing and the buttons and um accordingly the messages as well. So my findings, um I just did a preliminary study here and uh I found that too much metal in remote design could potentially cause interference with the ability of the remote to send commands. And too much metal can cause remotes to behave unexpectedly by receiving false signals. Um too much metal is used sometimes and people pick up radio signals and the like, and there's also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer, just think of those lawsuits, that'd be really bad. Therefore I suggest primarily plastic construction. Richard Bartell: 'Kay. Albert Peachey: Um, components. Just some ideas that I had, um, energy source, it's kinda hip to be eco friendly so I thought maybe we could do something with solar power with an alkaline battery backup. Um the user interface, I was since we can't use metal I was thinking maybe a high grade recycled plastic. Richard Bartell: Mm. Albert Peachey: The chip, um, silicon based chip I don't really see any way around that, we can't really be different in that respect. Um, the sender well I'm thinking infrared 'cause it is the industry standard, multi channel, that's a word I made up, I don't really know what it means. Richard Bartell: 'Kay. Albert Peachey: Uh PAL Richard Bartell: Fair enough. Albert Peachey: and N_T_S_C_ compatible and uh probably a two hundred foot range. Richard Bartell: 'Kay. Albert Peachey: Uh and the receiver of course is any number of electronic devices. Um but in this case it'll only be T_V_s. Um personal preferences, I really think that we should use plastic as opposed to metal, um, the company simply Ezra Sullivan: Fine. Albert Peachey: can't afford this kinds of lawsuits which adm admittedly is gonna come at the cost of a certain aesthetic value, 'cause we were thinking Richard Bartell: Is is there a way that we can use um modern types of polymers, or mo modern types of plastics that maybe do have some kind of aesthetic value um like if a white like if we talk about like well like on the lapt on these laptops and other Albert Peachey: Right. Richard Bartell: ones Ezra Sullivan: It Richard Bartell: they Ezra Sullivan: needs, Richard Bartell: use a Ezra Sullivan: yeah. Richard Bartell: a pretty nice, you can do i is there some kind of nice colo der quality plastic that we can work with? Albert Peachey: Yeah that shouldn't be a problem. Um for example the plastic they have on your laptop there is something that's perfectly possible for Richard Bartell: Okay, Albert Peachey: us to do. Richard Bartell: okay. Ezra Sullivan: Cool. Albert Peachey: That's Richard Bartell: Great. Albert Peachey: the end of my presentation. Richard Bartell: Thank you very much Nathan. Um if next we can have the um User Interface Developer go ahead and make a brief presentation that'd be great as well. S plug yourself in here. Richard Bartell: Mm. Um hit function F_ eight real quickly, hold down Mm. Ezra Sullivan: Looks like you're in okay. Albert Peachey: Is it plugged in well? There it goes. Computer Donald Sharp: Th Albert Peachey: adjusting. Ezra Sullivan: There you go. Richard Bartell: There you go. Sweet. Donald Sharp: Well so. Here we have a functions design presentation. Um so a few of the requirements we need here. Uh we n basically need to operate an electronic device, it needs to be universal um and possibly uh operate several different types of devices although we now uh find that Richard Bartell: Yeah Donald Sharp: uh Richard Bartell: sorry I Donald Sharp: that Richard Bartell: couldn't get that g to use before. Donald Sharp: that's no problem. Um so some of my findings. Um basically wanna send messages uh to a television set. Donald Sharp: I think we're all quite uh quite uh intelligent and know know what a normal remote control does. Um now some of the other things I found is a a complicated remote control sorry that we can't quite Richard Bartell: Oh yeah Donald Sharp: see Richard Bartell: look Donald Sharp: my Richard Bartell: at Donald Sharp: red Richard Bartell: that. Albert Peachey: Mm. Donald Sharp: there very well but uh this remote control has many functions um so it can do a lot of things but it uh it is quite complicated and most Richard Bartell: Mm-hmm. Donald Sharp: users will find it uh find that they won't use most of the functions because they don't know how to use them and don't wanna take the time to learn how to do it. As you also notice it's quite a boring design. Um. Another remote control, slightly different, it's a simpler remote control uh many less buttons but uh has many fewer functions, um m much easier for the user to manipulate and use. Um it also has a bit of a cheap look and it's also quite boring. So my personal preferences. Revolutionise Richard Bartell: Nice. Donald Sharp: the idea of uh a remote control. Um so attain the functionality of a complicated device but use a simple formatted display uh for the user to to work with. And I was gonna add another uh slide here but I didn't quite have time there. Um. Richard Bartell: Okay. Donald Sharp: Just incorporating some of the ideas that we had previously like uh having multiple face but it's uh. Richard Bartell: Great. Thanks for that Ron. Ezra Sullivan: Right. Does that mean I'm Richard Bartell: 'Kay Ezra Sullivan: up? Richard Bartell: yep that's you. Ezra Sullivan: I think so. Okay. Donald Sharp: I can plug you in. Ezra Sullivan: Oh that would be perfect. Thank you. Slide show up and running. Or not. Richard Bartell: Give it a little Ezra Sullivan: Uh. Richard Bartell: bit. Ezra Sullivan: Oh there we go. Perfect. Okay. So this is Ezra Sullivan. Um basically I was looking through some marketing reports that we've got we had a usability test where we were actually sort like watching a hundred people use T_V_ remotes and see what it is that they're using and then they filled out a questionnaire about what they like and what they don't about their general T_V_ remote control practices. Um pretty much through testing we were finding out that most of the time, everybody's used to using changing the channel, turning it on, using the volume, m the majority of the time that's all that's going on, the other functions happen, for some people they're important, but the primary uses are really really basic. Um and so big complicated remotes like one we saw in the last presentation are really not the general public's use, they're not using a lot of it, they don't need it, they even find it frustrating when there are all those buttons that they don't know what to do with. And um we also found out that uh fifty percent of our people, their the worst thing about a remote is how often they lose it. And then they can't find it in the room. So I think what we were talking about with a pager or something, will really come into play with a lot of these people. Um there's also a survey about what they liked about remotes, and pretty much they all think they're hideous and not very useful, and the younger demographics are all really interested in voice recognition options. I don't know if that's something we're ready to look into technically, that's up to the design people, but it is s something worth thinking about, especially since the younger demographic's obviously the one that's gonna keep growing, so if that's the direction we're headed in it's something to think about. Um but basically it really is the primary functions and getting it to look nice, which are the standards. So it's a good start for us. Richard Bartell: That's great. Thank you Sarah. Right. Ezra Sullivan: Need to unplug Richard Bartell: So Ezra Sullivan: this? Richard Bartell: um yep I'll just uh switch that Ezra Sullivan: Need it Richard Bartell: back Ezra Sullivan: back. Richard Bartell: here. I'll finish up with just a bit of discussion Ezra Sullivan: There you go. Richard Bartell: plan on for the next phase. Richard Bartell: Right so I think we've covered most of these important questions through this um through you guys's presentations um we've got uh y Albert Peachey suggests uh or pretty much emphatically suggested that we need to go with plastic. Um Sarah, she's recommended that we go for simpler functions, so fewer functions um but we need to decide who are we selling this to, you s your stats suggested that seventy five percent of people under thirty five wanted, Ezra Sullivan: Oh right. Richard Bartell: thought about voice control, um so do we wanna go for that, or do we want to go for an older demographic, and my thought is um we've got w if we're gonna go for a sleek look I mean we are putting the fashion in electronics um. Ezra Sullivan: We're not catering to the pensioners of the world Richard Bartell: Yes. Ezra Sullivan: I don't think so. Richard Bartell: So maybe this we should look into this younger demographic. Um. Ezra Sullivan: Right. Richard Bartell: So uh we need to wonder ah h about how we make it better and smaller and faster um think we're constrained to plastics very well, we've got this idea, Ron was saying we need to think about uh revolutionising the way it's looking Ezra Sullivan: Right. Richard Bartell: um, which might be easier given that we're going for simpler function and that we're Ezra Sullivan: Uh. Richard Bartell: only going for a telly. Um so um. How th this voice operation thing is I think is a good idea um assuming that it's doable, um at least for the basic controls, maybe we can balance Ezra Sullivan: Right. Richard Bartell: it that way, you Albert Peachey: Mm. Richard Bartell: know we can see. Okay you can't say record alias tonight at seven P_M_ but we might be able to say um volume up. Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Albert Peachey: Right. I think it would be possible to uh combine the locator device and the voice recognition technology. Richard Bartell: Mm. Ezra Sullivan: Oh. That could work. I like that. Albert Peachey: With a simple command like locate. Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Albert Peachey: And then Ezra Sullivan: Something very basic. Albert Peachey: it could start to beep Ezra Sullivan: Right. Albert Peachey: and Richard Bartell: Right. Albert Peachey: therefore be found. Donald Sharp: Sounds Ezra Sullivan: Is that only Donald Sharp: good. Ezra Sullivan: gonna be within our two hundred foot range then? Albert Peachey: Oh yeah I think that's Ezra Sullivan: Okay. Albert Peachey: very doable. Richard Bartell: The difficulty wh would be in um I think like i you couldn't speak into the remote that you're trying to find. 'Kay you have something that picks up Albert Peachey: Mm. Richard Bartell: a voice Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Richard Bartell: from far away Albert Peachey: It's a good point. Richard Bartell: If it's hidden under the couch but then again you have this wee this wee thing you know that's just a little chip or whatever that has the page button, maybe that could be voice activated too. Donald Sharp: A little Ezra Sullivan: Mm. Donald Sharp: sticky pad to stick on top of your uh television. And Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Donald Sharp: you just say something to into that and it Richard Bartell: Yeah. Albert Peachey: Yeah. Donald Sharp: finds Ezra Sullivan: K Donald Sharp: your Richard Bartell: Or an isolated magnet or something like, or you know something that wouldn't interfere I don't know that'd Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Richard Bartell: be the technical thing but yeah I like that, I like that, the voice recognition for the paging system. Donald Sharp: The other thing is we might be able to handle the simplicity of a remote control and kind of put the more complicated things into a voice control. So it could be sold to both the younger market Ezra Sullivan: True. Donald Sharp: and the older market. And the younger market could use kind of the voi voice control method and the older market Ezra Sullivan: Making Donald Sharp: might Ezra Sullivan: it just Donald Sharp: might Ezra Sullivan: an option? Donald Sharp: k Albert Peachey: Mm. Donald Sharp: exactly Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Donald Sharp: and might consider the older market could use the simpler design with Ezra Sullivan: Right. Donald Sharp: the traditional buttons and what not. Albert Peachey: I Richard Bartell: Yeah. Albert Peachey: was thinking Ezra Sullivan: Are we still Albert Peachey: uh Ezra Sullivan: thinking about this screen sorry. Albert Peachey: Oh Ezra Sullivan: Go Albert Peachey: go Ezra Sullivan: ahead. Albert Peachey: ahead. Ezra Sullivan: The uh if we're gonna do this touch pad screen thing, it would be Richard Bartell: Mm-hmm. Ezra Sullivan: still, do we know if that's an option technically right Donald Sharp: 'S Ezra Sullivan: now Donald Sharp: definitely Ezra Sullivan: to that? Donald Sharp: an option technically. Ezra Sullivan: Okay. Donald Sharp: I've looked into uh costs of uh touch screen methods Ezra Sullivan: Okay. Donald Sharp: and what not, they seem to be uh you know almost Ezra Sullivan: We're doing okay. Donald Sharp: as cheap as a button method at this point. Ezra Sullivan: 'Cause Richard Bartell: Okay. Ezra Sullivan: it seems like an interesting option especially because then you could have like your primary screen just be these you know four or five basic functions, you can have Richard Bartell: Mm. Ezra Sullivan: menu Albert Peachey: Yeah. Ezra Sullivan: options or something to have all these other complicated voice recognition, settings, things that you're not gonna use every day and that a lot of people aren't gonna use but it is an option there for this hi-tech market that sort of re is the sleek thing we're going for. Albert Peachey: Gotta wonder though, if we're adding so much technology to this one remote, are we still gonna be able to meet out twelve pou our twelve Richard Bartell: Mm-hmm. Albert Peachey: fifty Ezra Sullivan: True. Albert Peachey: Euro you Ezra Sullivan: Worth Albert Peachey: know Ezra Sullivan: looking Albert Peachey: goal Ezra Sullivan: into. Albert Peachey: for selling these things. Richard Bartell: Mm-hmm. Albert Peachey: It Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Albert Peachey: seems Richard Bartell: Mm-hmm. Albert Peachey: like, we're not gonna be able to handle all these functions with just one microchip. The microchip is probably the most expensive part of Ezra Sullivan: True. Richard Bartell: Okay. Albert Peachey: the the whole mechanism. Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Albert Peachey: So Richard Bartell: Okay. Albert Peachey: it's just something to consider. Richard Bartell: Absolutely. um well yeah I guess we'll cross that bridge um in a la slightly later stages of development um but yeah I know, that's perfectly viable question. Mm 'kay um so I'm seeing that we're gonna just basically focus on this young demographic group, aim it at them, but then in a sense that its bells and whistles are available for anybody who wants them but basically we'll make a sleek simple Ezra Sullivan: Mm-hmm. Richard Bartell: functioned um uh remote control. Um I think this voice recognition thing is a we've got a market for it uh I don't think there's too Ezra Sullivan: Mm. Richard Bartell: many, we'd more or less be cornering the market on it as well, we don't have many um. Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Richard Bartell: I appear to have lost my microphone. Mm. Right um we don't have many people or there's not very many competitors out there that do that so cool. Um right. I guess we've c we've touched on most of this. The idea of a paging function, a touch screen, and face plates. Um. The thing with I see would there not be a we'd have to maybe sacrifice the face plates for a touch screen? Donald Sharp: Um I'm not sure that's sincerely correct, I think Richard Bartell: Okay. Donald Sharp: if you kind of take the example of a mobile phone that uh trying to pass a portion of the device is not interchangeable whereas the surrounding portions Ezra Sullivan: Mm. Donald Sharp: are interchangeable. Richard Bartell: Okay. Ezra Sullivan: Just the casing. Donald Sharp: We could have the casing, the the face plates. Richard Bartell: Okay. Albert Peachey: Back to the uh the cost the material. We have to ask whether we're going to include a certain number of face plates with the package? That's something I w for say we're including Ezra Sullivan: Mm. Albert Peachey: three or four face plates, it's gonna drive the cost up. Richard Bartell: Mm. Albert Peachey: And Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Albert Peachey: the other question is, if we do include them are we really in a position to evaluate that market? We haven't done any tests on face plates and whether Ezra Sullivan: Right. Albert Peachey: See Richard Bartell: Okay. Albert Peachey: if there if there's even interest out there. Richard Bartell: Okay. Right. Albert Peachey: Off the top of my head it sounds kind of like a gimmick that wouldn't really go anywhere. Richard Bartell: Yeah 'cause then ha you Ezra Sullivan: Mm. Richard Bartell: would have to who all it's not like with cell phones like where you have a you know Nokia model X_ and then ten people make face plates for it, we'd Ezra Sullivan: Right. Albert Peachey: Yeah. Richard Bartell: be just our model of pho of t remote control. Ezra Sullivan: Well in the publicity of a face plate on a phone is you have it out and around, it is sort of emblematic whereas Richard Bartell: Mm-hmm. Ezra Sullivan: you're just sit at home, so unless somebody comes Richard Bartell: Mm. Ezra Sullivan: over Richard Bartell: Mm-hmm. Ezra Sullivan: to watch T_V_ Richard Bartell: Yeah. Donald Sharp: Well hopefully some people have people coming t over to w Ezra Sullivan: True. Donald Sharp: to hang out at Ezra Sullivan: True. Donald Sharp: your house and most people Ezra Sullivan: True. Donald Sharp: have their televisions in the living room. Uh. Richard Bartell: Alright well we can Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Richard Bartell: we can discuss that one further when we think about Ezra Sullivan: Oh yeah. Richard Bartell: um whether th when we do costs Donald Sharp: Sure. Richard Bartell: and so forth, um. True, if plastic is dead cheap and if we're making the whole thing out of plastic anyway um yeah we'll cross that bridge later um but yeah we will have to evaluate what's most important. Um I think we've had a bit of discussion already on this thing, n s there any other questions comments that came up in these presentations? Donald Sharp: Well have we confirmed that we're gonna go ahead with a uh touch screen um Richard Bartell: Yeah yeah Donald Sharp: Interface? Richard Bartell: okay. Um Yeah I think that would be best. Let's based on what sh on what you guys have all said to Ezra Sullivan let's go for a plastic built or uh b plastic cased 'cause tha tha that's easy on the cost, try to look for some kind of high quality recycled plastic as you recommended and I think that's a great idea. With a touch screen for the basic functions. Um And we'll yeah tha let's provisionally let's go for a touch screen one with several submenus um for possible extra stuff that one basically put the channel and the on and off switch on the touch screen. Um do we have Mm wait a minute it occurs to Ezra Sullivan that if we have a touch screen people are going to have to recharge their remote controls. Yet Ezra Sullivan: True. Richard Bartell: at the same time that might help for this whole complaint of it being lost. Ezra Sullivan: 'Cause it would have a docking base? Richard Bartell: Mm-hmm. But then again that costs as well. Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Richard Bartell: Hmm. Donald Sharp: So these new lithium batteries they last twenty years even with the touch screen? Richard Bartell: Do they? Donald Sharp: Those Richard Bartell: Okay. Donald Sharp: new ones. Ezra Sullivan: Can we afford Albert Peachey: Can we Ezra Sullivan: that? Albert Peachey: afford to include one of those? Ezra Sullivan: And will somebody buy it if we don't? Richard Bartell: Well I I don't think yeah I can't see anybody buying a lap a remote control that they have to plug in so we'd have to see some kind of new Ezra Sullivan: Right. Richard Bartell: battery technology. Okay so let's go with a um touch screen with um some kind of you know with with some kind of cutting edge battery technology Ezra Sullivan: For twelve Euros? Richard Bartell: Yeah well hey you know well it's it's worth looking into, if not we can always Ezra Sullivan: It is. Richard Bartell: default to just doing a a well Ezra Sullivan: Fair enough. Richard Bartell: presented plastic simple you know so Ezra Sullivan: The Richard Bartell: you Ezra Sullivan: basics. Richard Bartell: know. Well yeah I mean you can put the we could I I dunno I mean I suppose we could put the the basics on the centre easiest you know, you know people know the channel and volume function make them large and easy to get at and then the the other the other bits and bobs Ezra Sullivan: Mm. Richard Bartell: you know go through menu um w we'll do the aesthetics. Okay so we'll touch screen and the battery, Ezra Sullivan: 'Kay. Richard Bartell: focus on um uh presentation. Um it's th uh with this voice recognition option as well um just as for the simple functions the um the on off, channels, volume, Albert Peachey: Right. Richard Bartell: um and um a small paging function. Even if you can't do voice recognition for the paging you know just some kind of simple button that's just a I guess another infrared signal to the remote control and while to emit some kind of paging. Just Albert Peachey: Okay. Richard Bartell: a beep. Um right so any comments? Thoughts before we break into go into the next round of individual work on this. Albert Peachey: Since we're doing uh touch screen, do we wanna look into the possibility of people being able to input different types of skins for the you know the actual interface part of it and things like that? Or is it just gonna be one touch screen for everybody. Donald Sharp: Be interesting. Ezra Sullivan: Mm. Albert Peachey: What what would be on that touch screen? 'Cause you said earlier that we have to think about company colours and um logo or Ezra Sullivan: And Albert Peachey: something or motto, Ezra Sullivan: oh. Albert Peachey: I can't remember exactly Ezra Sullivan: Yeah the Albert Peachey: what you said. Donald Sharp: We put fashion Ezra Sullivan: the fashion Donald Sharp: into Ezra Sullivan: do. Donald Sharp: electronics. Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Richard Bartell: W it's my understanding that if you were going to do a skin you'd need to have some way for people to download or import skins Ezra Sullivan: Right, and then you're Richard Bartell: into Ezra Sullivan: dealing Richard Bartell: the remote Ezra Sullivan: with ports Richard Bartell: control. Ezra Sullivan: and cords and Richard Bartell: Yeah I think perhaps Albert Peachey: 'S too much. Richard Bartell: good idea Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Richard Bartell: but yeah I think that that one m might just be um and they just yeah I think that one might just be out of the range for this particular Ezra Sullivan: For now. Richard Bartell: a P_D_A_ would they would makes a lot of sense for a P_D_A_ 'cause you're gonna be using it to connect up to things anyway but I dunno, what do you guys think? Albert Peachey: Think we just need to come up with a nice black and red Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Nice. Albert Peachey: interface on the touch screen. That'd Donald Sharp: Yeah. Albert Peachey: be okay. Donald Sharp: Uh I I'm I'm in agreement with that, I'm wondering Ezra Sullivan: Um. Donald Sharp: how we're gonna get uh we put fashion into electronics Ezra Sullivan: Well but Donald Sharp: onto Ezra Sullivan: if we're Donald Sharp: this Ezra Sullivan: gonna Donald Sharp: device. Ezra Sullivan: use a touch screen where it's gonna come on like on your cell phone it'll have your Richard Bartell: Hmm. Ezra Sullivan: your carrier provider name come up first like while it's loading and then it goes away, perhaps it could be like a temporary Richard Bartell: Mm. Ezra Sullivan: Comes on every time you turn it on and then that's it 'cause it is a bit much to have it like engraved Albert Peachey: Mm. Ezra Sullivan: on the back or Richard Bartell: Yeah. Ezra Sullivan: something Albert Peachey: True. Ezra Sullivan: I think. Richard Bartell: Yeah. Donald Sharp: I'm hoping for a subliminal maybe half a millisecond Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Donald Sharp: as it turns on. Ezra Sullivan: Y Richard Bartell: Yeah. Yeah I know I d it seems like it would suffice to have just the R_R_ on there. Donald Sharp: Mm-hmm. Ezra Sullivan: Yeah Richard Bartell: Jus Ezra Sullivan: you would think. But. Richard Bartell: But apparently not. Ezra Sullivan: If it Albert Peachey: People Ezra Sullivan: comes Richard Bartell: So. Ezra Sullivan: from Albert Peachey: aren't gonna Ezra Sullivan: above. Albert Peachey: want their remote to boot up and to see flashing things come on. They just want it to be on and ready to go. Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Richard Bartell: Yeah. Well fair enough. Um and yeah that would help the battery life too and if it the remote they do have to press a button for the remote to turn on. But then again who wants to turn on a remote control. Donald Sharp: Well Richard Bartell: Kind Donald Sharp: all Richard Bartell: of Donald Sharp: you Richard Bartell: if Donald Sharp: have to Richard Bartell: i Donald Sharp: do is touch the screen and it automatically Ezra Sullivan: Mm. Richard Bartell: Oh Donald Sharp: goes Richard Bartell: to wake Donald Sharp: on. Richard Bartell: up okay Donald Sharp: Yep. Richard Bartell: or go into like Donald Sharp: Goes Richard Bartell: a dormant Donald Sharp: into a Richard Bartell: mode. Donald Sharp: sleep mode. Richard Bartell: Okay. Oh yeah I like that I like the idea of um putting the logo in the boot up screen, nice. Um. Um cool so any last things before we break? Alright. Fair enough. Ezra Sullivan: We're Richard Bartell: Sounds Ezra Sullivan: good? Richard Bartell: good. I'm gonna save th a copy of this in case you guys need any reminders. I'm gonna save a copy of this and the minutes that I'll do it in a second and put them in the shared folder for later reference. Donald Sharp: I've put my files in the shared folder as well. Richard Bartell: Brilliant. Ezra Sullivan: Yeah. Richard Bartell: That's fab guys. Cool.

Richard Bartell went over new requirements for the project: that the device was solely to control television, and that there would not be a teletext component. Albert Peachey gave his presentation on the basic components of a remote control device, and advised the group to use plastic for the casing material instead of metal. Donald Sharp presented the technical functions of remote controls and compared the interfaces of two existing remote control products. Ezra Sullivan made a presentation of the needs and the desires of the consumer and emphasized simplicity as one of the most desired features. The group discussed in more detail the features that will be added to the device: the possible applications of voice recognition, the touch screen menu interface, faceplates, and the look of the company logo.

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Jose Goud: Okay. Hi Team. Hope you had a good. Okay we're back for the conceptual design meeting. Um let's get started. 'Kay, here is the agenda for today's meeting. Um we're gonna open it and I'm gonna keep the minutes as Project Manager. We're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you again. And then we are going to come to decision on the remote control concepts and then we're gonna close it up. And we have forty minutes again. 'Kay, just to reiterate after meeting team will reach a decision on the concepts of the remote control. Okay. Let's go ahead and start off with your presentations. Who would like to go first? Robert Lyons: Just trying to move mine right now. Jose Goud: Okay. Um Courtney would you mind starting us Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jose Goud: off? Okay. Trend watching? Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jose Goud: 'Kay. Lewis Stanton: Okay, so trend watching. Uh since we do put the fashion in electronics, it is kind of important how our product looks. So I guess we can go ahead and go to the next. So what they want. Right now customers want fancy versus functional. Um basically about fifty eight percent of what they like of the product that they want, describing like the in order of how much they want, fifty per of the decision of what it should look like, fancy versus functional, and then it has to also be technologically innovative, and yet easy to use. So the customer basically is confused. They don't know exactly what they want. They want us to tell them. Robert Lyons: They want everything, but Lewis Stanton: Yes. Robert Lyons: simply. Lewis Stanton: Exactly. Robert Lyons: Okay. Lewis Stanton: So we can go to next. Jose Goud: Mm 'kay. Lewis Stanton: Okay. So in Milan and Paris recently the trends have been showing that clothing, shoes and furniture are basically just covered with fruits and vegetable patterns. So I don't know if we want to go with that um and also the spongy feel is in in contrast to last year. I don't know really, I mean I guess the spongy could relate to the buttons Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: if we want to rather Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: than like a hard clicky button that you find on like some mobiles and stuff, you'd want like a softer touch. I mean do you guys know what I mean. Jose Goud: Right. Robert Lyons: Yeah Jose Goud: Yes. Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Robert Lyons: th Lewis Stanton: Um. But as for the fruits and vegetable patterns, I don't know if we really want to go with that, because it is just a trend, and Jose Goud: Right. Lewis Stanton: our product we want to stay around for much longer than just a few months, Jose Goud: Right. Lewis Stanton: because Jose Goud: People Robert Lyons: I Jose Goud: don't Robert Lyons: I Jose Goud: buy Robert Lyons: can Jose Goud: a new remote Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jose Goud: every Lewis Stanton: I mean Jose Goud: so Lewis Stanton: that could Jose Goud: often. Lewis Stanton: just be a Spring thing right now. Robert Lyons: I can address some of that issue, I think, with uh my presentation. Lewis Stanton: Okay. Awesome. Jose Goud: Okay. Lewis Stanton: Um so design preferences, um we need easy to read like large buttons, clearly labelled so that, I mean 'cause we talked about that being a problem. Um and then also buttons illuminating upon touch, you said that in your design, with the bulb. Um and that could also tie in with the colour scheme. Uh we need the Real Reaction logo and colour scheme obviously. That's one of our key goals, we wanna promote our product. And I was thinking about different types of designs and I came up with something. Actually right here. So what we could do is something like an old-fashioned telephone like this, where we put the buttons around, like we'd put a big on-off button or something else in the middle, I mean it could be the arrows or whatever for channel up and down, and then put the numbers around in like an old-fashioned dial shape. 'Cause then it'll appeal to older generation and like said retro's cool. So it's classically retro. Jose Goud: Hmm. Lewis Stanton: So I mean that's just an idea if Jose Goud: Very Lewis Stanton: you guys Jose Goud: good. I like Lewis Stanton: like Jose Goud: it. Lewis Stanton: it. Jose Goud: Okay, Lewis Stanton: And, Jose Goud: ready for the next slide? Lewis Stanton: yep. And that's it. Jose Goud: Op mm 'kay. Robert Lyons: Okay. Jose Goud: Great. Great presentation. Ready? Jared Tom: Okay hang on. Jose Goud: 'Kay. Jared Tom: See if it's there. Jose Goud: Which one is it? Jared Tom: I don't know. Hang on. Interface concepts, no? Jose Goud: Interface concepts new. Jared Tom: Either refresh it, or it sh Oh Jose Goud: Y Jared Tom: wait, maybe I didn't put it there. Hang on. Jose Goud: 'Kay. Robert Lyons: Mine will always read copy of something or other. Jose Goud: Sorry? Robert Lyons: I I copied mine before I sent it over. Jose Goud: Oh okay. Jared Tom: Sorry, hang on. Don't know. Jose Goud: Oh there we go. Jared Tom: Okay. Jared Tom: Okay, um looking at the interface concept, it's gonna be mostly examples of possibilities of where we can go with this. Uh if you wanna start the next slide. Jose Goud: Sure. Jared Tom: uh can't really see there's two possible, on the r left, if you see on th on the sides of of the remote, you have the sort of scroll down, so you have that option right there. And then also there's the idea of the base. That's sort of like an idea there. And then on the right, we have what's really big trend right now, it's the iPod. It's becoming really and so you have this sort of very very simplistic menu section uh with the round buttons, and it's sort of like you have the both kind of trendy and hip, but also very sleek and um and very simple, but technologically advanced. So if you wanted to do that th if we could find a way of sort of like using that idea in a remote control then sort of look into it, but Anyway, Jose Goud: Mm 'kay. Jared Tom: next. Um there's the idea of like being able to do it by feel as well as by um by sight. You'd you know you're in the dark, you don't wanna be looking at the remote control. And the picture particularly is pointing out if you look at the top volume button it's a V_, and so yo you're kind of feeling a V_ like volume up. What it really is is a V_ and what it you think it is is down, because the down arrow. Jose Goud: Mm. Jared Tom: And so it's like a sort of a criticism you'd probably turn that o the other way up. Um but then you have you could either do it by raised type, which could be you know, iffy, um sort of old-fashioned in a way. Jose Goud: Mm. Jared Tom: Either that or just have it by shape, for example you have a specific triangular shape that you know you're looking at the up and down arrow. And then the round ones you sort of feel by, you know, that's the second one down, that sort of thing. So it's sort of looking into how we wanted t to do it by feel. Jose Goud: Okay. Jared Tom: Okay. Um this is sort of an example of going for a s certain demographic. Um this is particularly geared towards children. Lewis Stanton: That's cute. Jared Tom: Um it's very cute, and we could probably change it to yellow, bright yellow for like a the for the company logo. Um and you have the shapes and it's very simplistic and friendly looking. Um and then the other thing that it would be able to do is just to pro be ab you program certain channels that only these children would watch, so it's like they ch watch, you know, the C_ Beebies or something like that, uh keep them away from other channels. So that's like another ar Jose Goud: Okay. Jared Tom: Um, I mean, these are three examples sort of looking at it. You have the wider section for the main controls there. Uh you could see how many buttons there are. And then on the left you have an example of the round buttons, and a simpler design. On the bottom we probably wouldn't need that, because it's more for like a D_V_D_ function which we are not gonna be using. Um. So again it's sort of like just give you ideas and then down at the bottom you have the logos and that's where you could put the R_R_, Real Reaction. Jose Goud: 'Kay. Jared Tom: And then finally these are like the sort of same examples, but also some more, just possibilities that we could go with. None of them I'm particularly keen on by the way. Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Robert Lyons: Hmm. Jose Goud: No. Jared Tom: But it's sort of like just taking aspects out of that and saying, well out of this one we like, you know the round section of um, b or we'd like the Jose Goud: Mm. Jared Tom: the button size on this. Jose Goud: Or I like, you know, the black finish or the silver finish or whatever. Jared Tom: Right. Lewis Stanton: I have four of those remotes. Jose Goud: Good lord. Okay. Ready? Jared Tom: That's it. Jose Goud: Oh, yeah. Okay. Great job. Robert Lyons: Okay, my turn. Jose Goud: Okay. Lewis Stanton: Okay. Robert Lyons: Whoo. Jose Goud: What's the title? Robert Lyons: It'll be copy of component design. Jose Goud: Got it. Robert Lyons: Yeah. Th that looks like it. 'Kay. So basic remote runs as follows, press button makes connection with the power source and the rest of the circuit, chip senses the connection, chip produces a morse code infra-red signal, specific to that button. So you press the button, it produces uh a signal that's encoded specifically for that button. Transistors amplify that signal and it goes to the T_V_'s centre, which interprets the signal response accordingly, changes channel etcetera. So that being said Next slide, please. Findings oh which were the required materials for the basic internal construction, so all the really simplistic functions that we just discussed, we need rubber for buttons, aluminium for battery y contacts, integrated circuit which consists of a diode, transistor, resonator, resistors, and a capacitator, all those basic things that make a circuit function. Um fibreglass and thin copper wire to create the actual circuit board itself. An L_E_D_, which is a light emitting diode, um contact discs for the buttons, plastic for the casing, and a power-source, whatever power-source we've actually determined we want. Next slide, please. Thank you. Uh personal preferences, uh to save money for the components, the remote should be mass-produced and basic materials should be bought en masse. Um if we find another company who can produce the required chips, casing, L_E_D_, any additional materials we decide we require at a less expensive rate than we ourselves are producing, we should go for it. Next slide, please. Um just talking to the um manufacturing division. They suggested power options, solar cells, hand dynamo, and kinetic power, so you shake it and it increases the power. Um I'm not sure how the hand dynamo works, they have yet to get back to Lewis Stanton on that. So Jose Goud: Hmm. Robert Lyons: next slide, please. Jose Goud: Interesting. Robert Lyons: Suggested casing options. Okay. We can offer options for casing such as straight, curved, double-curved, you know, very specific to the customer. Options for materials, plastic, rubber, titanium, wood. I don't think anyone's gonna go for a wood one, because splinters Lewis Stanton: That would be amazing, though, yeah. No, Robert Lyons: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: splinters would Robert Lyons: Um certain restrictions do apply here though. Uh latex, you can't do solar power with a latex one. So, if they want some a soft squishy rubber, they can't have the solar powered option. Double-curved, you can't Lewis Stanton: What Robert Lyons: do titanium. Lewis Stanton: is that? Robert Lyons: Um that would be two curvatures, so it would actually, if you the shape of your hand, you curve here and you curve here, Jose Goud: Mm. Robert Lyons: so you could have two curves that match the shape of your hand to make it more comfortable to hold. Lewis Stanton: Mm. Robert Lyons: Now if you wanted that, you can't do titanium. And uh so you functions what for the buttons, scrolling Jared Tom: Right. Robert Lyons: function could be very beneficial to us instead of actual buttons themselves. I think Jose Goud: 'Kay. Robert Lyons: I have one more slide. No, I Jose Goud: No, Robert Lyons: didn't. Jose Goud: okay. Robert Lyons: Um the manufacturing division also has said that um they have several types of chips and they've just developed a sample sensor or sample speaker chip, which we could utilise. Um push button requires a simple chip and scroll requires more complicated chip. So depends on what we decide we wanna do. In addition to that if we're offering all those different options to the customer for producing their remote, we're going to have to have multiples of each type, like a double-curved in rubber, um you know, each option should have a certain select number produced with all those options. So we'll have to mix it up, make sure we produce enough of everyone. But that could also drive up the price of the Jose Goud: Mm. Robert Lyons: actual remote itself if they know that we only produced five thousand, you know, double-curved Lewis Stanton: Right. Robert Lyons: wooden remotes. Lewis Stanton: Okay. Jose Goud: Hmm. Robert Lyons: And Jose Goud: Okay. Robert Lyons: that's all I got. Jose Goud: Alright, well thank you for those informative presentations. Let's go back to um Now we have to make some decisions. Where were we? Jared Tom: Let Lewis Stanton just add one more thing that I couldn't say before, Jose Goud: Sure. Jared Tom: and that's just that there's the new technology that they've developed on the voice recognition. Um. Lewis Stanton: Oh this the thing we were talking about earlier. Jared Tom: Right except that it's sort of odd, and I'm no not exactly sure why they are explaining it in the way they are, um there's a sample sensor and there's a sample speaker unit for So, you would say like, good morning, coffeemaker, and it would respond, good morning, Jill, but I'm not sure exactly how it's gonna work, 'cause do you programme do we program the responses and the questions. So does that mean that the user then has to ask the specific question, and can't change it Jose Goud: Mm. Jared Tom: in order for it to be recognised, or can it be altered in a certain way, or does the actually user program it, to Jose Goud: Right. Jared Tom: say a channel means this. Lewis Stanton: Yeah, like Jose Goud: Right. Lewis Stanton: using the menu to be like, enter your name into the screen like on the menu options. So Jared Tom: Right, Lewis Stanton: that way the Jared Tom: so it's got Lewis Stanton: remote Jared Tom: like a limited Lewis Stanton: reads it. Jared Tom: memory and programme it. So it's sort of iffy, Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: I feel like voice recognition would be, I don't know, Jose Goud: Hmm. Lewis Stanton: w it would be too hard to really Jose Goud: Programme. Lewis Stanton: I mean we could do it, but Jose Goud: If it's within our price to get that kind of chip that Lewis Stanton: Technology. Jose Goud: would, you know, technology Robert Lyons: Well, we are making the chip. Jose Goud: Hmm. Robert Lyons: So, I mean But, I guess, we have to look at w what our production cost is for the chip itself Lewis Stanton: And Robert Lyons: anyway. Lewis Stanton: it is a growing trend, Robert Lyons: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: the Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: higher technological, like the, I mean just like the more advanced it is, Robert Lyons: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: the better it'll Robert Lyons: I Lewis Stanton: sell. Robert Lyons: I thought offering some of those options for different materials that it could be made of different, you know I think we'd have to decide on the power options, maybe. Jose Goud: Hmm. Robert Lyons: So Lewis Stanton: Yeah, Robert Lyons: that Lewis Stanton: 'cause Robert Lyons: we Lewis Stanton: we Robert Lyons: could Lewis Stanton: need to Robert Lyons: reduce Lewis Stanton: know how big Robert Lyons: cost. Lewis Stanton: it's gonna be Robert Lyons: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: and how heavy. Jose Goud: Okay, that kind of brings us to this, let's let's see Robert Lyons: Okay. Jose Goud: if we can decide what kind of energy source we want to have first and foremost. Um. Do we wanna go for batteries or a stand like the one that we saw illustrated earlier? Lewis Stanton: Oh the base, yeah. Jose Goud: The base, the charging base Robert Lyons: I Jared Tom: I Robert Lyons: think Jared Tom: always Robert Lyons: the Jose Goud: with Jared Tom: feel Robert Lyons: p Jose Goud: rechargeable Jared Tom: like first Jose Goud: batteries? Jared Tom: I wanna know what it looks like, before 'Cause Jose Goud: Hmm. Jared Tom: if it's something really really small, then it's sort of harder to imagine a base for it, that was p quite a s substantial size sort of standing up Jose Goud: Yeah, Lewis Stanton: W Jose Goud: and we don't have multiple things that it has to control, it just has to control the T_V_. It's not gonna be a huge universal remote. Lewis Stanton: We Jared Tom: Right. Lewis Stanton: need to decide, well so we can figure how big it's gonna be, like Jose Goud: What Lewis Stanton: exactly Jose Goud: size battery Lewis Stanton: what Jose Goud: and Lewis Stanton: buttons we want and exactly Jared Tom: Well, the other thing is like even if it's got a few buttons, so we want Lewis Stanton: It could Jared Tom: it to Lewis Stanton: be Jared Tom: be Lewis Stanton: like Jared Tom: bigger Lewis Stanton: this. Jared Tom: than this, Lewis Stanton: Yes. I'd, well Jared Tom: 'cause Lewis Stanton: uh Jared Tom: it still fits in your hand, so you still wanted something that's comfortable and substantial, but not necessarily full of buttons. Lewis Stanton: This one is really comfortable, like I like the sides whatever, Jared Tom: Are you gonna Lewis Stanton: because Jared Tom: lose it easier? Lewis Stanton: But if we have the um, the locator, then we don't have to worry about that. Robert Lyons: That's true. Lewis Stanton: So we can make it small if we have a l locating device. Robert Lyons: If Jared Tom: Yeah. Robert Lyons: we do a voice-activated locator, though, we're gonna be looking at a more substantial chip. So Lewis Stanton: Hmm. Jared Tom: So i That's the other thing, it's like You know Are we gonna have certain chips that are gonna require bigger size period? Lewis Stanton: Two double A_s, for this size. Jared Tom: But like, you know, if we get more complicated then it's gonna v be Lewis Stanton: Right. Jared Tom: have to be bigger to just accommodate the chip size. Robert Lyons: Honestly, I think the customer would be kind of irritated by the fact that it has a base if we did do a nice small, compact Jose Goud: Right. I agree, Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jose Goud: it's Jared Tom: So Jose Goud: either gonna Jared Tom: we Jose Goud: be Jared Tom: sh Jose Goud: bigger with a base or smaller Lewis Stanton: Smaller, Jose Goud: with Lewis Stanton: without Jose Goud: just Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jose Goud: A battery like Jared Tom: Yeah. Robert Lyons: Mm Jose Goud: this Robert Lyons: yeah. Jose Goud: guy. Alright, so what direction do you want to go in? You wanna vote? Lewis Stanton: I think if we had a a locating device with the small one, I think that seems way more advanced. Jose Goud: I'm kind of Robert Lyons: Yeah. Jose Goud: I'm kind of Jared Tom: I'm Jose Goud: leaning in the Jared Tom: a Jose Goud: direction Jared Tom: away Jose Goud: of this Jared Tom: from Jose Goud: kind of Jared Tom: the base. Jose Goud: bigger and Jared Tom: Yeah. Jose Goud: the Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jose Goud: base. Robert Lyons: 'Kay Jose Goud: That just Robert Lyons: so Jose Goud: seems so clunky and Lewis Stanton: Yeah, because I mean if even looking at cellphones right now, those trends the smaller Jared Tom: Smaller Lewis Stanton: the Jared Tom: and smaller, yeah, Lewis Stanton: hotter Jared Tom: yeah, yeah. Lewis Stanton: it is, yeah Jose Goud: Okay. Robert Lyons: The only problem with that is if you forget to take it out of your pocket and it goes in wash. Lewis Stanton: Oh. Jared Tom: You're kidding. Robert Lyons: You know it happens. Jose Goud: Hmm. Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Robert Lyons: I've had three watches go that way too. Jared Tom: Oh watches Lewis Stanton: Ouch. Jared Tom: I've but I've never washed a cell Lewis Stanton: A phone, Jared Tom: phone. Lewis Stanton: whoa, that would wow, that would hurt. Jose Goud: Okay, Robert Lyons: Pieces Jose Goud: so Robert Lyons: everywhere. Jose Goud: what kind of material do we want to be made out of? Robert Lyons: Well, we have lots of options. I don't think wood is a viable Lewis Stanton: Yeah Robert Lyons: option. Lewis Stanton: wood. Jose Goud: No. Jared Tom: Well, titanium Jose Goud: Oh what did you Oh sorry, Jared Tom: s Jose Goud: go ahead. Jared Tom: I was saying that titanium, if we're being restricted then I would probably lean away from that. Lewis Stanton: Yeah, 'cause if it's gonna cost us more to produce a chip, titanium will be more expensive. Jose Goud: Right. Robert Lyons: However, Jose Goud: What would you recommend? Robert Lyons: well, Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Robert Lyons: we only wanna sell it for twenty five Euro right? Jared Tom: Yeah. Robert Lyons: 'Cause I was thinking if we wanted to get the high in market Jared Tom: That'll Robert Lyons: then Jared Tom: Yeah, Robert Lyons: you could Jared Tom: exactly. Robert Lyons: produce a few in titanium, Jose Goud: Mm. Robert Lyons: make them a rarity Jared Tom: The selling Robert Lyons: so to Jared Tom: point, Lewis Stanton: We Robert Lyons: speak. Lewis Stanton: could Jared Tom: yeah. Lewis Stanton: do that, because all our research shows that people are definitely willing to spend more Jared Tom: Are we Robert Lyons: Yeah. Jared Tom: restricted Lewis Stanton: if Jared Tom: by this? Robert Lyons: Well the Jose Goud: I Robert Lyons: original Jared Tom: Twenty five Jose Goud: I think Jared Tom: Euros Jose Goud: we should just focus on one design and one concept right now.I'm Robert Lyons: Okay. Jose Goud: not sure that we'll have the time and money to produce a whole array of remotes. If this was a successful remote, we might then produce a higher end version of it, I think. Robert Lyons: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: Good plan. Robert Lyons: Good plan. Jose Goud: Okay, so we wanna go for plastic, or what would you recommend for materials? Robert Lyons: Honestly I'd Jose Goud: Hmm. Robert Lyons: recommend like um uh since we're going with batteries instead of solar power, I'd recommend maybe a uh soft like latex, because we could produce, you know how cellphones have those overlays that you can change the colour. We could Lewis Stanton: Oh. Jose Goud: Mm-hmm. Robert Lyons: do uh one that fits Jose Goud: Mm. Robert Lyons: in with the trends of the year so, because this year is all fruit, God only Lewis Stanton: Yeah, Robert Lyons: knows why, Lewis Stanton: who knows. Robert Lyons: um we could do f a cherry cover for this year and then i if next year is stripes or solids, you know Jose Goud: Okay. Jared Tom: So you're talking about like when it leaves our salesroom then it's all gonna be cherry-coloured or is it gonna be the kinda thing where people come Lewis Stanton: O Jared Tom: back Lewis Stanton: or we Jared Tom: and Lewis Stanton: could Jared Tom: swap Lewis Stanton: like take Jose Goud: They could Jared Tom: it? Lewis Stanton: off Robert Lyons: They could Jose Goud: buy Robert Lyons: come Lewis Stanton: this. Robert Lyons: back. Jose Goud: cases, maybe, Robert Lyons: And buy the extra case. Jared Tom: Okay. Jose Goud: if they wanted. I think it's good to sell a basic thing and then sell Robert Lyons: So we could do like Jose Goud: options. Robert Lyons: a b a hard base plastic, and Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Robert Lyons: then we could give Jared Tom: The Robert Lyons: two Jared Tom: what the Robert Lyons: latex Jared Tom: top face, Robert Lyons: covers Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jared Tom: right? Jose Goud: Okay. Robert Lyons: to start. Jose Goud: Okay. Lewis Stanton: Yeah, because the soft latex definitely is squishy. That's in. Well I mean squishier than like, Jose Goud: Right. Lewis Stanton: yeah, Jose Goud: Right. Lewis Stanton: just a hard plastic. Jose Goud: Okay, and what kind of chip would we need for this guy? Robert Lyons: How complicated Are we gonna go with the Jared Tom: Yeah. Robert Lyons: voice activated Jose Goud: I don't think we should do voice, I think we should just do um the recognition for when it's lost, you know. Jared Tom: A Jose Goud: could we Jared Tom: tracker, yeah. Jose Goud: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: 'Cause that uh what it type of, yeah, like a certain term what we would say like, Jose Goud: Hmm. Lewis Stanton: because people could just be talking and we don't want it going off all the time. Jose Goud: Right. Lewis Stanton: So uh Robert Lyons: Well, we could give it a specific code, you know, remote missing. Lewis Stanton: Ooh. Uh see I'm uh I'm strangely attracted to it, because I know that's it's definitely gonna be big, because it's, I don't know, it's Jared Tom: Well, Lewis Stanton: just so high-tech. Jared Tom: my little sister got for Christmas she got one of those key finders that's like a key-ring, and you have to whistle in a certain frequency for it to work. Robert Lyons: Yeah, see that Jared Tom: And Robert Lyons: would Jared Tom: then Robert Lyons: just Jared Tom: she Robert Lyons: irritate Jared Tom: would laugh Robert Lyons: Lewis Stanton. Jared Tom: and it would start going off in her purse, and you couldn't turn it off. Jose Goud: Oh dear. Lewis Stanton: Oh, Jared Tom: So Lewis Stanton: then Jared Tom: it became Lewis Stanton: maybe voice Jared Tom: highly irritating. Jose Goud: Okay. Lewis Stanton: maybe voice Robert Lyons: So Lewis Stanton: activation Robert Lyons: I think Lewis Stanton: won't Robert Lyons: having Lewis Stanton: be good. Robert Lyons: a key-phrase is much better. Jose Goud: Okay. Alright. But it's not gonna be voice activated in the fact that you would say, channel up, and it would work, right? Lewis Stanton: Yeah, n n no, we Jared Tom: But Lewis Stanton: just Jared Tom: then Jose Goud: Just Robert Lyons: No. Jared Tom: it Lewis Stanton: want it to Jose Goud: a Lewis Stanton: be a finder. Jose Goud: Okay, alright. Jared Tom: Hmm. Okay. Lewis Stanton: But do can your can the department make Robert Lyons: That would be like a mid-class um Lewis Stanton: Oh, Robert Lyons: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: brilliant then. Robert Lyons: So we don't actually have to go for Well, if they've just developed the sample sensor, sample speaker, it's a brand new chip. Why not introduce Jose Goud: No. Robert Lyons: it in this way? Lewis Stanton: Yeah, Jose Goud: Mm 'kay. Lewis Stanton: good point. Jose Goud: Uh and what size batteries, double A_, triple A_? Lewis Stanton: I think triple A_, it'll be lighter. Jose Goud: Two? Could Lewis Stanton: I Jose Goud: it Lewis Stanton: mean Jose Goud: run Lewis Stanton: more Jose Goud: off of two Lewis Stanton: more Jared Tom: Well, Lewis Stanton: come Jared Tom: that Lewis Stanton: in Jared Tom: depends Lewis Stanton: a package. Jared Tom: on what the energy is needed. Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Robert Lyons: I think, well, we could d r do two or we could do one small lithium, 'cause you know the lithium batteries are doing quite well in most other electronic products, right? So they're more widely available now. And they also have a longer battery life than most batteries. Jose Goud: They're more expensive though, too. Robert Lyons: But if you only have to replace it every five years. Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: That's a good Jose Goud: Thoughts Lewis Stanton: point. Jared Tom: As Jose Goud: anybody? Jared Tom: long as we sell it with it. Robert Lyons: Well, how about a initial, you get one battery when you buy it, 'cause Jared Tom: Right, Robert Lyons: I'm pretty Jared Tom: that's Robert Lyons: sure Jared Tom: what Robert Lyons: we can Jared Tom: I meant. Robert Lyons: get them Lewis Stanton: We Robert Lyons: pretty Lewis Stanton: could think Robert Lyons: cheap Lewis Stanton: about Robert Lyons: on bulk. Lewis Stanton: it and Jose Goud: Okay. Lewis Stanton: come back to it next meeting. Jose Goud: Yeah. Robert Lyons: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: We still have one more meeting. Jose Goud: Alright. Jose Goud: Okay. So we've covered that first category, User Interface Concept, meaning design. Jared Tom: What's it gonna Yeah, what's it gonna look like. Jose Goud: Okay. Jared Tom: Um. Jose Goud: I ki I kind of like your idea about the retro phone dial, and that the central button could have, maybe our logo on it? It might be the four way scroll, too. Lewis Stanton: Yeah, Jose Goud: I mean Lewis Stanton: it could Jose Goud: if Lewis Stanton: be whatever, Jose Goud: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: as long as there's something big in the middle, because like the old phones, Jose Goud: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: there's like that just like piece of metal Jose Goud: Mm-hmm. Lewis Stanton: or like Jared Tom: Well, Lewis Stanton: a picture or something in the Jared Tom: my Lewis Stanton: middle. Jared Tom: issue with that is if it got too big though, 'cause if you have the circle and the button in the middle, then is it gonna get wider Jose Goud: Mm. Jared Tom: than Lewis Stanton: Oh, that's Jared Tom: your Lewis Stanton: true. Jared Tom: your hands are, because w And then would the buttons be too small if it was enough to fit on it? Lewis Stanton: Good point. Robert Lyons: In the sample ones that you showed us there was one that had the scroll buttons on the side, Jose Goud: Yeah. Jared Tom: Yeah. Robert Lyons: which I think if we make it curved like a hand like a hand-shape like if we put the the scroll-button on the side, Jose Goud: Oh, I see what Robert Lyons: that Jose Goud: you mean. Robert Lyons: could be particularly useful. Jose Goud: I think so. Lewis Stanton: So scroll buttons on the side and Jose Goud: Yeah, Lewis Stanton: then buttons Jose Goud: I like Lewis Stanton: on Jose Goud: that. Lewis Stanton: top? Jose Goud: 'Kay. Lewis Stanton: But we definitely If we have scroll things on the side, we definitely have to have 'em labelled. Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: Yeah, like Robert Lyons: Well, Lewis Stanton: on Robert Lyons: if it's Lewis Stanton: the side Robert Lyons: just up Lewis Stanton: of Robert Lyons: and Lewis Stanton: it. Robert Lyons: down Lewis Stanton: Oh if it's just up and down. Jared Tom: But is that for Robert Lyons: Volume or channel. Jared Tom: Which? Robert Lyons: I don't know. Lewis Stanton: Well, you could do Jared Tom: Do we Lewis Stanton: some Jared Tom: have both Lewis Stanton: on both Jared Tom: sides? Lewis Stanton: sides. Jose Goud: Can Robert Lyons: Mm Jose Goud: we? Robert Lyons: yeah. We should probably make it that you have to depress it to activate it then, Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jose Goud: So that you're Robert Lyons: 'cause Jose Goud: just Robert Lyons: oth Jose Goud: not holding Robert Lyons: otherwise Lewis Stanton: That's Jose Goud: it and Lewis Stanton: squishy. Robert Lyons: you're Jose Goud: it Robert Lyons: not Jose Goud: changes Robert Lyons: just Jose Goud: the chan Robert Lyons: holding Lewis Stanton: That's Robert Lyons: it Lewis Stanton: squishy. Robert Lyons: and going like this, Jared Tom: Well, Robert Lyons: you Jared Tom: the Robert Lyons: know. Jared Tom: other option is in instead of a scroll you just have Lewis Stanton: have Jared Tom: the buttons Lewis Stanton: buttons. Jared Tom: up on the side which Jose Goud: Mm. Jared Tom: are on the side. Robert Lyons: Okay. Jose Goud: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: Yeah, that. Jose Goud: Hmm. Jose Goud: 'Kay any other ideas? Jared Tom: Um what colour? Jose Goud: Oh, yeah. Latex covers. Robert Lyons: We Jose Goud: W Robert Lyons: have to make sure that logo always sticks out when we put the latex covers on, so we'll have to like have a little square or something, so that the Jared Tom: Well Robert Lyons: our logo's Jared Tom: I sort Robert Lyons: available. Jared Tom: of like having the a yellow strip at the bottom with the R_R_ like that. Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jared Tom: And that's at the bottom of it. Jose Goud: I think maybe we should do it on a b button itself though, because if people are able Jared Tom: Which Jose Goud: to Jared Tom: button? Jose Goud: change the covers, maybe the on-off button, something, some the menu button, I don't know, but you know if we're gonna put our company logo on there and somebody could just get another one. Are they all gonna have our company logo on them? Every cover? Robert Lyons: Yeah, I don't think we should do that, because that would just be icky. Jose Goud: Yeah. Robert Lyons: So I think maybe putting it on a button is probably a good idea. Jose Goud: If we want it to be visible and Um are all those those one that you showed where they were um s met silver-metallic looking? Jared Tom: Yeah. Jose Goud: But those are plastic, right? Jared Tom: Yeah. Jose Goud: They're not titanium. I kind of like that look. Uh but, or if Robert Lyons: For Jose Goud: it was Robert Lyons: our base Jose Goud: really Robert Lyons: one? Jose Goud: Yeah, for the base or if we're going for the retro look, I think, like a really shiny black would be cool. Lewis Stanton: Yeah, Jose Goud: What Lewis Stanton: or like Jose Goud: are your Lewis Stanton: a Jose Goud: thoughts? Lewis Stanton: gun-metal grey, Jose Goud: Gun-metal Lewis Stanton: 'cause then Jose Goud: gray. Lewis Stanton: it combines the silver and the black. Jose Goud: There you go, gun-metal gray. Jared Tom: I'm just really wary of the putting anything on a button. Jose Goud: Why? Robert Lyons: It'll wear off. Jared Tom: What's the Lewis Stanton: Yeah, Jared Tom: button Lewis Stanton: buttons wear Jared Tom: Well, Lewis Stanton: off. Jose Goud: Mm. Jared Tom: w w then what's the button do, and how do you know that that is what the button does? I guess. Just looking at examples, y you just don't ever see the logo on a button, it's always on the actual casing. Jose Goud: Right. Lewis Stanton: Hmm. Robert Lyons: There's nothing saying that we have to put the logo on the front Lewis Stanton: But Jose Goud: On Robert Lyons: of Jared Tom: But Lewis Stanton: we Robert Lyons: the Jose Goud: the Lewis Stanton: want Jared Tom: you Robert Lyons: actual Jared Tom: don't Jose Goud: back? Lewis Stanton: it to be seen. Jose Goud: It d visible Jared Tom: But uh, Lewis Stanton: We Jared Tom: yeah, Lewis Stanton: need it Jared Tom: you Jose Goud: Visibility Lewis Stanton: to Jared Tom: don't Lewis Stanton: be seen. Jared Tom: see it. Jose Goud: though 'Cause if it was only on the back really the only time you're gonna see it is Jared Tom: Well, Jose Goud: when you drop it or Jared Tom: hang Jose Goud: when Jared Tom: on. Jose Goud: you're changing the battery. Jared Tom: The other option is, I don't know if you can see it but it's like if Jose Goud: I can find it again. Jared Tom: Yeah, it's like the second to last slide. Jose Goud: Okay. And yours was called Interface Jared Tom: Interface, Jose Goud: Concept? Jared Tom: yeah. Jose Goud: This one? Jared Tom: Yeah. Jose Goud: Well, Jared Tom: Um. Jose Goud: for some reason I can't get it to just go to that slide directly. Jared Tom: Okay, it's the very right one. You see at the bottom, it's kind of difficult to see, but you have like a d sort of s division between the bottom like, where the logo is, and if we have the replaceable section, it's like the top. It doesn't necessarily replace the entire top. Jose Goud: Mm. Jared Tom: And so you have that one piece that stays and the rest just sort of clips in. Jose Goud: Okay, Jared Tom: If Jose Goud: yes Jared Tom: c you envisioning it? And so Jose Goud: yes. Jared Tom: that stays the same when you have the logo, and then you have this s slip that kinda clips in and that's the bit that changes. Jose Goud: Okay. Robert Lyons: The only problem is we're using a latex overlay so it actually would go over top of everything and have Jared Tom: Hmm. Robert Lyons: holes for the buttons, so I was thinking maybe instead of doing that what we could do is leave a space for where Jared Tom: Yeah. Robert Lyons: the logo should Jared Tom: Yeah, yeah. Robert Lyons: be. Jose Goud: Like a little cut-out kind Robert Lyons: Yeah. Jose Goud: of Jared Tom: Right. That's Jose Goud: Okay. Jared Tom: like, you know, a a cellphone it's like the the screen Lewis Stanton: Right. Jared Tom: is always just left opened. And so, what we are gonna do it like bright yellow with the R_R_? Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Lewis Stanton: Some Jose Goud: Anybody Lewis Stanton: of tho Jose Goud: see anything that they liked in Lewis Stanton: Well, Jose Goud: these Lewis Stanton: some Jose Goud: ones? Lewis Stanton: of those buttons though are blue-based. Um Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: well, a lot of those buttons are blue-based. Well, kind Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: of. Um and then if v we do have them illuminate upon contact, Jared Tom: Yellow. Lewis Stanton: they could illuminate yellow. Jose Goud: Yellow, Jared Tom: Yeah. Jose Goud: I like that idea. Lewis Stanton: Like if we like the one all the way on the left, uh you ca you can see it on your computer better. Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: Um where the button is actually blue, but the number itself is clear or white or whatever so if you pressed it would illuminate yellow. Jose Goud: Mm. Lewis Stanton: So we'd have blue and yellow for the touch Jared Tom: Oh, Lewis Stanton: buttons. Jared Tom: that one. Jose Goud: I like Lewis Stanton: Yeah. Jose Goud: the yellow illumination idea, very good. Okay. Any other ideas or thoughts? We Jared Tom: Um. Jose Goud: all seem to be fairly in agreement about what we wanna Jared Tom: Ha hang on Jose Goud: do with this project so Jared Tom: Let Lewis Stanton: Mm Jared Tom: Lewis Stanton Lewis Stanton: yeah. Jared Tom: catch up. Jose Goud: 'Kay. Jared Tom: Did we finalise what buttons we're including or we just everything that we said before? Jose Goud: I think there will be time for that later. I'm guessing. 'Kay, well we're gonna wrap this up. Um next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes, and here's what we're each of us going to do. The I_D_ is going to do the look and feel design, the U_I_D_ the user interface design. I think you're going to get a lot of, I mean, the final say on what buttons get put We'll all talk about it, but I think, that's pretty much what you're gonna do, right? Jared Tom: Yeah. Jose Goud: I guess. 'Kay. And you're gonna do some product evaluation. Okay, and right now, the I_D_ and U_I_D_, you two are going to work together on a prototype using modelling clay. Robert Lyons: Great. Jared Tom: Fun. Robert Lyons: Play Doh. Jose Goud: Yeah. Okay, and you should all be getting an email pretty soon. Alright. Well, Robert Lyons: Wonderful Jose Goud: thank you for a very productive meeting. Robert Lyons: Ooh.

Lewis Stanton presented more information on user requirements which showed that users wanted the look of a high-tech device that was still simple to use. She presented the fruit and vegetable fashion trend that the group will integrate into their design. Jared Tom presented several ideas for the interface design taken from existing product designs. Robert Lyons discussed the necessary internal components and presented options for energy sources and materials. Jared Tom also presented the sample speaker technology recently developed by the company. The group had a discussion to finalize the prototype features. It was decided that the device will be small with a locator function instead of having a charging stand. Voice recognition will not be included outside of the locator function. It will be covered by interchangeable latex casings. To incorporate the company logo and color, the buttons will be illuminated yellow when pressed and the logo will be displayed through the latex casings. Jose Goud instructed Jared Tom and Robert Lyons to build the prototype, with Jared Tom deciding which buttons will be included. Lewis Stanton will prepare a prototype evaluation.

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Brain Frey: Here we go. Welcome everybody. Um, I'm Abigail Claflin. You can call John Nelson Abbie. 'S see. PowerPoint, that's not it. There we go. So this is our kick off meeting. Um and I guess we should all get acquainted. Let's shall we all introduce ourselves? John Nelson: Hi I'm Chiara, I'm the um Marketing Expert Um. would you like John Nelson to talk about my aims at the moment, or would you like John Nelson to just say my name and then we can talk about business Brain Frey: I think John Nelson: later? Brain Frey: we'll get around to that, yeah. John Nelson: We'll Brain Frey: So John Nelson: get Brain Frey: this John Nelson: round Brain Frey: is John Nelson: to Brain Frey: just John Nelson: that later. Brain Frey: introductions John Nelson: My Brain Frey: yeah. John Nelson: name is Chiara and I'm John Nelson. Brain Frey: Okay. I forgot to s say I'm Brain Frey but I figured you all knew that already, um so. Miguel Kinney: I'm Stephanie I am Miguel Kinney. Robert Lopez: I'm Krista and I'm Robert Lopez. Brain Frey: Okay. Um so f here's our agenda for today. Um we're gonna do some tool training, project plan and discuss then close. Um so. So our aim is to produce a remote control that is original, trendy and user friendly. And to do this, we have to um there's certain things we have to consider about functional aspects and conceptual design of the thing. So. We'll get to that. Oh there it is. Right. Functional design, conceptual design and detailed design. So throughout our next couple of meetings we'll we'll be covering these things. Um so we're gonna try out our white board. If we'll all draw our favourite animal, to sum up the characteristics of that animal. Miguel Kinney: So Brain Frey: Okay. Miguel Kinney: you want us to draw it and then talk about it? Or just draw it? John Nelson: I think both. Brain Frey: Yeah. Miguel Kinney: Okay. Why don't Brain Frey: Both. Miguel Kinney: we do both. Brain Frey: Yeah. John Nelson: Who starts? Miguel Kinney: Right. John Nelson: We ought to decide who starts and all that. No? Brain Frey: Any John Nelson: Uh-huh. Brain Frey: volunteers? Does anyone know what they wanna draw? Miguel Kinney: Mm, I gotta think about it for a second like. Uh Does it have to be functional, trendy and user friendly? Brain Frey: I don't think so. Miguel Kinney: Um. Okay, I'll draw. I'll draw one. Make sure my things here. Miguel Kinney: Uh-oh. Miguel Kinney: Right. Miguel Kinney: Okay, my favourite animal is see. Miguel Kinney: Oops. Brain Frey: A dolphin. Miguel Kinney: Yeah, it's Brain Frey: 'S like playing Pictionary. Miguel Kinney: Yeah, I guess it has a fin on top too, yeah. Miguel Kinney: It's my dolphin. Brain Frey: So what characteristics do you like about your animal? Miguel Kinney: I like its tail. Um, no, I think dolphins are really uh I dunno, they're smart and they they're cute and they like swimming and that's cool, like Brain Frey: They're graceful. Miguel Kinney: they're graceful yeah, and they're so Brain Frey: Sleek. Miguel Kinney: Yeah they're sleek and they look intelligent and I don't know, they're I guess it's the whole like binocular Brain Frey: I don't know how Miguel Kinney: vision Brain Frey: intelligent Miguel Kinney: thing. Brain Frey: that one looks. Miguel Kinney: Yeah he he doesn't look that smart. He's a I dunno um they're I think it's cool the the um the interaction that or the th things that the reasons people seem to like you know you get ex you know people are sitting on the beach and p they're like oh look there's dolphins and it's kinda like but they're you know they jump around in the water and they're happy and they're mammals, but they Brain Frey: Yes. Does Miguel Kinney: swim. Brain Frey: anybody else wanna draw their animal? Robert Lopez: Suppose I can draw an animal, yeah. Brain Frey: Uh-oh there goes the ten. It's a cat. Robert Lopez: Yeah. I don't know. They sleep all day, they're easy to draw. Brain Frey: Do you wanna John Nelson: Uh yeah. Brain Frey: anything? I dunno John Nelson: Well Brain Frey: if John Nelson: I Brain Frey: the John Nelson: had Robert Lopez: I think the pen is Brain Frey: the Robert Lopez: running out of Brain Frey: ah. John Nelson: spare one. So I'll use the spare one. Um but it's harder to draw Miguel Kinney: And John Nelson: um. Miguel Kinney: the pen's dying. John Nelson: Um. Brain Frey: A John Nelson: Uh. Brain Frey: horse. Miguel Kinney: Horse. John Nelson: Um I don't really know Brain Frey: That's John Nelson: how Brain Frey: very John Nelson: the legs Brain Frey: good. John Nelson: go, but anyway I will do that. Um, and the main reason is they're pretty. I think they're very pretty and they go well with the environment, and I like the way they run and I used to do horse riding and they're just very sort of sturdy and nice animals. And I like the way um they feel, sort of under under the hand, I think that's pretty much it. Um Brain Frey: Yeah. Brain Frey: This cord's Brain Frey: Uh. Right. Actually I haven't thought of anything yet. Uh Brain Frey: It's a pig. So I'm thinking we should design a remote control that's water resistant, strong and furry. What do you think, yeah? Miguel Kinney: And furry. Brain Frey: This is yeah, well like a cat, you know, Miguel Kinney: Textile Brain Frey: soft yeah. Miguel Kinney: tactile, tactile remote Brain Frey: Although Miguel Kinney: control. Brain Frey: uh I'll just put there. Right. Miguel Kinney: You're dragging a you have a tail. Brain Frey: Oh my gosh, this is disastrous. Sorry about that. Okay. So moving on. Our selling price goal is twenty five Euro and profit aim is fifty million Euro. So I'm guessing that we're not actually in Scotland, we're in some European country. Um, and we will hope to sell this internationally. Miguel Kinney: Sorry can you just say that what's the what are our price goals again? Brain Frey: Um selling price is twenty five Euro. Miguel Kinney: Okay. Brain Frey: Profit aim fifty million Euro. John Nelson: How many should we sell then? Um, a lot, Brain Frey: Anyone John Nelson: two Brain Frey: a mathematician? John Nelson: two two million, two mi no, more f four million. Robert Lopez: Two million. John Nelson: Four million. And it well it's the profit so if a profit for each is twelve Robert Lopez: Oh, John Nelson: fifty, Robert Lopez: yeah. John Nelson: that'll do four million. John Nelson: It is a lot. Uh. Brain Frey: So f that's a fifty percent um uh. Um, I don't know what these mean because I didn't actually make the slide-show. Experience with remote control. So I guess we have to reflect on our experiences with remote controls to decide what um we would like to see in a convenient, practical, nice remote control. Um so do we have any initial ideas for uh how this remote control should be designed or formatted or the the buttons John Nelson: Um, Brain Frey: it should have. John Nelson: I think one thing is that it should be easy to find Miguel Kinney: I was John Nelson: bec Miguel Kinney: thinking that too. John Nelson: yeah Brain Frey: Yeah. Miguel Kinney: I John Nelson: bec Miguel Kinney: think we should design something that has like a so you can like somehow like you I mean you always know where your T_V_ is, so just have a call button, I've always wanted that, John Nelson: Yeah, Miguel Kinney: so Brain Frey: Yeah. John Nelson: yeah Miguel Kinney: like John Nelson: yeah Miguel Kinney: you John Nelson: yeah Miguel Kinney: can push John Nelson: yeah. Miguel Kinney: a button Brain Frey: I mean Miguel Kinney: on your Brain Frey: you have Miguel Kinney: T_V_ Brain Frey: it for the portable Miguel Kinney: Yeah, Brain Frey: phone, so Miguel Kinney: yeah Brain Frey: why not Miguel Kinney: yeah Brain Frey: yeah. Miguel Kinney: yeah, so you should have a call button on your television to John Nelson: Yeah. Miguel Kinney: be able to find your remote control. John Nelson: And even I think a little light. Um or even a maybe a vib a vibrating thing. I dunno but someth because it's usually under the sofa. Miguel Kinney: Yeah. John Nelson: In which case Miguel Kinney: Yeah. John Nelson: you're going to be l but if it has a sort of signal which isn't any sound I don't know Miguel Kinney: Yeah. John Nelson: if it's expensive maybe to Miguel Kinney: I don't yeah I mean it John Nelson: Maybe call is enough. But yeah. Miguel Kinney: but like I mean just I mean like your phone even just has so John Nelson: Yeah Miguel Kinney: like John Nelson: yeah Miguel Kinney: it John Nelson: yeah. Miguel Kinney: can vibrate, it can light up and make John Nelson: Yeah. Miguel Kinney: noise and I dunno. Brain Frey: What if it had something like um just like a magnet on the back of it and you could I mean j just to have some place to put it besides like a base. Miguel Kinney: Yeah. Brain Frey: You know like a portable Miguel Kinney: Yeah, Brain Frey: phone Miguel Kinney: or if it Brain Frey: has Miguel Kinney: had a Brain Frey: a base, Miguel Kinney: yeah. Brain Frey: like just to have a home for it. John Nelson: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Miguel Kinney: Yeah, I mean Brain Frey: 'Cause people just stick it on top of their T_V_, but the point of having a remote is not to have to walk over to the T_V_, Miguel Kinney: Yeah. Brain Frey: so Robert Lopez: Well that's why it's always in the couch. Brain Frey: Yeah. Miguel Kinney: Yeah, in in the couch. I dunno, it seems like though that that would be hard, 'cause Brain Frey: Yeah. Miguel Kinney: you not you're not gonna be lazy Brain Frey: Maybe Miguel Kinney: anyway Brain Frey: we should Miguel Kinney: and Brain Frey: design couches that have the remote control Miguel Kinney: Yeah Brain Frey: in Miguel Kinney: so we Brain Frey: the side Miguel Kinney: the project Brain Frey: arm. Miguel Kinney: is now couches and John Nelson: But Miguel Kinney: remote John Nelson: even Miguel Kinney: controls. John Nelson: just a thing to attach it to the w you know if you had a thing, a pretty object attached to the wall. But that would really Miguel Kinney: Yeah. John Nelson: make it more expensive. But it's only a plastic thing, r Miguel Kinney: Yeah. John Nelson: really, Brain Frey: Yeah. John Nelson: the thing on the wall. Something like that. And the other Brain Frey: Do you John Nelson: thing Brain Frey: think it John Nelson: is Brain Frey: needs to be bigger to not lose, or does that Miguel Kinney: Bigger. Brain Frey: not factor John Nelson: Not Brain Frey: in? John Nelson: well it needs Brain Frey: Like John Nelson: to be sort of Brain Frey: Hand Miguel Kinney: Hand-sized. Brain Frey: hand held John Nelson: Yeah. Brain Frey: size, yeah. John Nelson: I don't think you need a Brain Frey: Not not huge, but John Nelson: But definitely not well I don't know. Miguel Kinney: It can't be that hard to put some kind of a noise on it. John Nelson: No, it can't be, Robert Lopez: No it really Miguel Kinney: Or John Nelson: uh-uh. Miguel Kinney: like Robert Lopez: wouldn't Brain Frey: Huh. Robert Lopez: be. Miguel Kinney: or like a light thing. You know. I dunno. John Nelson: Like spaceship. Miguel Kinney: Yeah. John Nelson: Right. Um Miguel Kinney: Or make it mobile so it runs around and comes come find you yeah. That would be really I'm sure we could do that for twenty five Brain Frey: Little Miguel Kinney: Euros Brain Frey: homing Miguel Kinney: a pop. Brain Frey: device. Miguel Kinney: Yeah. Uh. Brain Frey: Um. Okay. So what do we think this remote control should Five minutes. John Nelson: Oh dear. Brain Frey: Till the meeting oh right. This is what we have left. Miguel Kinney: I also Brain Frey: Um, Miguel Kinney: think though that Brain Frey: oh Miguel Kinney: it shouldn't Brain Frey: we just Miguel Kinney: have too many buttons, 'cause I hate Robert Lopez: Yeah, Miguel Kinney: that Robert Lopez: I Miguel Kinney: when Robert Lopez: agree. Miguel Kinney: they have too many buttons and John Nelson: Yeah, Brain Frey: Yeah. Robert Lopez: button John Nelson: yeah yeah. Robert Lopez: and the Miguel Kinney: I Robert Lopez: F_ Miguel Kinney: mean I know Robert Lopez: button, Miguel Kinney: it has Robert Lopez: they Miguel Kinney: to Robert Lopez: don't Miguel Kinney: have Robert Lopez: do Miguel Kinney: enough Robert Lopez: anything. Miguel Kinney: functions but like, I don't know you, just have like eight thousand buttons and you're like, no, you never use half of them. Brain Frey: You Miguel Kinney: So. Brain Frey: what if um may be a little fancy but what if it had like a little screen, so it has less buttons but it still has all the functions. Miguel Kinney: That would be cool. Brain Frey: Like the John Nelson: Yeah. Brain Frey: way a mobile phone does. Miguel Kinney: Yeah. I mean it just seems like Brain Frey: So you could like Miguel Kinney: yeah. Brain Frey: um like if you have I dunno if you have satellite if you have a hundred channels, you can the way you do it on your radio is that you uh what do you call John Nelson: Select. Brain Frey: it s y yeah but you John Nelson: Uh. Brain Frey: can programme, so you can programme like your favourite channels, so like if you had a s John Nelson: But, would you have the screen on the thing, or would you have it on the telly transmitting the screen. Brain Frey: That's something we could decide. Miguel Kinney: I John Nelson: Because Miguel Kinney: guess Brain Frey: Mm. Miguel Kinney: they would go together somehow? I dunno. John Nelson: Because, I don't know if it's I think it's e expensive, if you have if you use the telly screen, 'cause the telly's Brain Frey: Yeah. John Nelson: already a screen, then you can pro sort of have a programming function, really easy sort of arrow up and down, on Brain Frey: Yeah. John Nelson: the remote, and then use the telly as a screen. Brain Frey: Right. John Nelson: But um Miguel Kinney: I'm thinking John Nelson: But Miguel Kinney: kind John Nelson: yeah for Miguel Kinney: of John Nelson: sure. Something like not it's not on the button but it's telling you what to do, Brain Frey: Yeah. John Nelson: is that what you mean? Brain Frey: Yeah. John Nelson: Right. Mm. Miguel Kinney: Or like you h you see those you know people I'm thinking of like celebrity cribs kind of things when like they have all those these things that at their house you know their their entire house is so electronic, and they have like this one master control that and it's like a hand held like turns on everything sort of control and it has like a screen and like so I think it should be possible to have some kind of a screen, I don't know John Nelson: Yeah. Miguel Kinney: if it must be it would probably must be ex too expensive though t like I dunno. John Nelson: But like Brain Frey: Mm. John Nelson: mobile phones have screens Miguel Kinney: Yeah, John Nelson: and they're cheap. Miguel Kinney: yeah. Yeah Brain Frey: Yeah. Miguel Kinney: that's true. Brain Frey: I mean, we have to remember our budget is twelve point John Nelson: Yeah. Brain Frey: twelve fifty for to actually make the device. Miguel Kinney: Mm. Brain Frey: Um Miguel Kinney: Well, I guess Brain Frey: but it's Miguel Kinney: we have Brain Frey: something Miguel Kinney: to get to Brain Frey: to Miguel Kinney: that Brain Frey: think Miguel Kinney: later, Brain Frey: about, yeah. Miguel Kinney: yeah. Brain Frey: I mean we'll have to see how much that would be. John Nelson: Or some it i we can find out probably on the Brain Frey: Yeah. John Nelson: internet how much it's Um. Yeah, and the other thing you said that thing about robust and water um What was the word? Miguel Kinney: Furry. John Nelson: Water resistant. No but it's I thought, ah, Brain Frey: was John Nelson: spot on. Brain Frey: just John Nelson: Good feel, tact tactile, Brain Frey: Yeah. John Nelson: good tactile feel, maybe something didn doesn't make your hands sweat lot. Miguel Kinney: Yeah. Mm, mm. John Nelson: That's quite annoying. Brain Frey: Maybe um just like a simple thing to have a clip on it, like so you can clip it to your Miguel Kinney: Yeah. Brain Frey: like that's another John Nelson: Yeah, clip. Ooh. Um. Brain Frey: Um. We should probably start wrapping up, um we've got some initial ideas that we can all look into. Um, and come up with some new ones for the next meeting, which will be in another thirty minutes. Um. So. Yeah. Robert Lopez, what does that stand Robert Lopez: Yeah Brain Frey: for, Robert Lopez: I think Brain Frey: I_D_, Robert Lopez: so. Brain Frey: yeah um is going to be looking more into the working design. So I guess you'd be looking at lots of the things we discussed about screen and um that sort of thing. The something, what is the U_I_? Robert Lopez: User. Miguel Kinney: That's John Nelson. Brain Frey: Yeah, what does it stand for again? Miguel Kinney: Uh, User Interface Brain Frey: User Miguel Kinney: design. Brain Frey: Interface Designer. So that's gonna be more technical. I guess that maybe the working design has also to do with like the physical feat like just Miguel Kinney: So Brain Frey: the way Miguel Kinney: technical Brain Frey: it looks Robert Lopez: The Miguel Kinney: function. Robert Lopez: working Brain Frey: and Robert Lopez: design Brain Frey: the way Robert Lopez: is Brain Frey: it w Robert Lopez: the structure. Brain Frey: Yeah, yeah. Miguel Kinney: What is technical functions exactl I I don't really know what Brain Frey: Um, I guess you'd have to find out. John Nelson: It says Robert Lopez: Um. John Nelson: on that email Robert Lopez: It John Nelson: but Robert Lopez: was Miguel Kinney: It Robert Lopez: in Miguel Kinney: does John Nelson: it Robert Lopez: the email. Miguel Kinney: but it I just don't really Robert Lopez: I wrote down what John Nelson: It Robert Lopez: mine John Nelson: said Robert Lopez: were. Miguel Kinney: Yeah. John Nelson: um It said Miguel Kinney: What effect should the thing ha should it have, okay. Alright. John Nelson: Yeah like Miguel Kinney: And working design. Okay. John Nelson: Be a medium between you and the telly Miguel Kinney: Yeah, John Nelson: I think, Miguel Kinney: yeah. Brain Frey: Mm. John Nelson: that's uh Miguel Kinney: Alright. And how it works, okay. Right. I'm I'm on task. Brain Frey: And the M_E_, what does that stand for? M Robert Lopez: Marketing. Brain Frey: Marketing, John Nelson: Marketing. Brain Frey: right. John Nelson: Oh it's written Brain Frey: Um. John Nelson: here, but um. Brain Frey: So we'll be working on the user requirements, um Yeah. John Nelson: Okay. Brain Frey: So I guess that wraps it up. I'll see you all in thirty minutes. I just did.

The group introduced themselves to each other. Brain Frey discussed the goals for the project and gave an agenda for the project as a whole. The group practiced using the meeting-room equipment by drawing on the whiteboard. Brain Frey presented the projected profit and price point. The group discussed their experiences with remote controls. They complained that remotes got lost too easily, and suggested using a locator function. They also complained that remotes had too many buttons, and suggested incorporating a screen to simplify the interface but retain all of the functions. They also suggested making the remote water-resistant and including a clip. Brain Frey instructed Robert Lopez to research the working design and components, Miguel Kinney to research the technical functions, and John Nelson to research user requirements.

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Chad Smith: Okay. Tracy Folse: 'Kay so we'll try to zip through this, since we're short on time. Welcome everybody. Um hope your sessions went well. Um so this is our functional design meeting, we're going to consider um user needs, technical effects, and the working design of our remote control. Um I've been taking meetings on the minute minutes on the meetings, and I'll be putting them in the shared documents folder so if there's anything you need to refer to you can find them in there. Um I'll get the ones up for next time, um they're not finished yet. Right. Um so can we have updates from everyone from what you've worked on just kind of a quick summary of anything interesting that you'd like to share Chad Smith: And I can Tracy Folse: or discuss Chad Smith: start if Tracy Folse: in Chad Smith: you Tracy Folse: this Chad Smith: want. Tracy Folse: sure. Chad Smith: Is there an order? No. We haven't Tracy Folse: Hm? Chad Smith: decided on an order. Tracy Folse: No, Chad Smith: First. Tracy Folse: any any order's fine. Chad Smith: Okay. Tracy Folse: Yeah. Chad Smith: Um, how do I put this Jon Goldberg: Just Chad Smith: I'll just Jon Goldberg: uh Chad Smith: put the cable in. Tracy Folse: Oh yeah, sorry. Chad Smith: Is that it? Can you see? Oh, here. Okay. So what happens it doesn't work? Tracy Folse: It sh it takes a few seconds I think. Jon Goldberg: You may need to Robert Damore: Who's that? Chad Smith: No. Is it in the Jon Goldberg: But Chad Smith: right Jon Goldberg: sometimes Chad Smith: thing? Jon Goldberg: you have to do it it's like a three set setting cycle, so press it a couple times, hold down function and then press Chad Smith: Oh wait, Jon Goldberg: F_ eight. Chad Smith: um. Uh. You need to help Chad Smith. Tracy Folse: Uh-huh, and then press function. Chad Smith: Yeah. Tracy Folse: and F_ eight. Robert Damore: Could you just plug it back into hers because Chad Smith: Oh, Robert Damore: she had Chad Smith: wait. Robert Damore: oh. Chad Smith: is that it? Jon Goldberg: Adjusting. Tracy Folse: Here we are. Jon Goldberg: The cable might be a little loose or something. Chad Smith: Right Jon Goldberg: Oh, Chad Smith: here we Jon Goldberg: you got Chad Smith: are. Jon Goldberg: it. Tracy Folse: Oh. Is it on? Chad Smith: We're here. Tracy Folse: Okay. Chad Smith: Okay, um. In order to see what the functional requirements were to be found, um a hundred people were tested in a usability laboratory through just their habits to n know their habits were observed and questionnaires were given out. Um, the findings in in some cases matched what we were talking about. Custome Customers and users don't like the way remote controls look, they don't like the way they feel, they don't think they match their operating behaviour, and an example is what we were talking about, the buttons, they only use ten per cent of the buttons, so later on there's a study of the buttons that they use most and I think we should design according to these buttons. Easy to lose, and R_S_I_. I don't know what R_S_I_ means. Um the person that did the questionnaire obviously did, I don't have a Tracy Folse: Hm. Chad Smith: clue. Um, according to the frequency of use and the relevance of each buttons, I have made a list of the buttons that we should focus on in order of importance. So the most important buttons are those to do with channel selection. They're used about a hundred and sixty times per hour. And um yeah so and and people like to zap a lot apparently, so this is the order. Channel selection, teletext, volume, and power. The other ones are the settings, and they're used less than you know zero point eight to zero point five times per hour, and this means that I think we can we could have like a a button for all the settings, and then, just one, and then from there go on to the audio on the screen, either on the remote or on the television. Um, about the screen, and speech recognition, some people are more willing than others to actually pay for that. And if we look at the market, f people from well from fifteen to thirty five year old year olds, I don't really know how to describe this, um ninety one to seventy six percent of people in that age range are willing to pay more for this sort of product, while people that are above thirty five years ol um years old go from thirty five percent to eight percent, so people that are sixty five for example wouldn't actually pay for this sort of thing. Um I don't I don't know um what the decision to be made is, but I think that the people that actually do buy remotes m more are those like teenagers and young professionals and um, most likely, but we should discuss this together. And that's all I have to say about the matter, Tracy Folse: 'Kay. Chad Smith: um. Shall I what do I do? Do I give this to someone else? Tracy Folse: Yeah. Just move right on. Robert Damore: Right. So get this. Robert Damore: Okay so now I need to press F_ eight, what is it? Tracy Folse: Uh function Chad Smith: Function Tracy Folse: F_ Chad Smith: F_ Tracy Folse: eight. Chad Smith: eight. Robert Damore: 'Kay. What's function? Tracy Folse: It's the little blue w it's Robert Damore: Oh Tracy Folse: the Robert Damore: function, Tracy Folse: one Robert Damore: I Tracy Folse: th Robert Damore: see Tracy Folse: yeah. Robert Damore: it. There we go. Tracy Folse: Yeah should be It should be yeah. Robert Damore: Okay. Um. This my presentation about the uh technical functions design and I basically just tried to focus on um just what what functions we need and how to make that the best function for the user. So uh and I just sort of like thought about it myself and looked on the internet. And okay so basically um I think i uh like it is really important that we sort of get this done in a user friendly and fashionable way. Um so I think things like uh you know keeping buttons together that like close together that um are used in the same way, uh or um maybe that making 'em the same colour, keeping the number of buttons the uh leas you know to a minimum, and also things like is it is it um is it uh can you c y small enough large enough I'm not sure we c I guess we would need to do some research about, I would, about what size is appropriate and that sort of thing, um but basically we need to make sure that it turns on and off the T_V_. Does it have like capacity to change the channels? Um does it do or do we need to have like functions for cable or V_C_R_? And then, is it findable, and uh how do we wanna do that? And um I just thought that these two remotes were pretty boring, um I dunno if this will work but And I think we can find something that's more fun to look at and use than either of those. Just I mean I like the one on the right better, just because it does have fewer buttons, uh but I mean I think we sh can sort of think about things like um like colour and you know size, shapes, that sort of thing, to best fit the user. That concludes my presentation. Okay. You need the little thingy. Robert Damore: Ooh. Jon Goldberg: How do I um Chad Smith: S Chad Smith: That's on view. Oh. Jon Goldberg: Right. Okay so this is on the working design, which is sort of the uh mechanical functions of the remote, um and the method I used was to basically look at and incorporate ideas from our last meeting. Um so I think we need two basic functions which is just the basic remote functions, the user can input a channel or volume setting and it will be output to the T_V_. And also we talked about um a location function where maybe you could press a button on the T_V_ and it would send sort of signal to the remote where it would beep or flash or vibrate or whatever to tell you where the remote is. So the components we need are an energy source to power the remote, um input which would probably be buttons, although um we just talked about voice recognition, processor to take the information, um something to transmit it to the T_V_, and we also need something on the remote that would receive the location signal and have an output, like possibly a beep or a vibration. And also you need a sender for location signal, which would probably be a separate um thing that we'd have to sell with the remote and people could stick it on their T_V_ or stick it on their wall. And this is just sort of an overview of how the remote works. Power comes from the battery, goes to the chip, um and then it is sent from there to an infrared bulb which is probably the easiest way to send to the T_V_. And then for the location function, you would have a sender on the T_V_ which would output some sort of signal, um we could use I_R_ but we'd probably wanna use radio instead. That signal would go to a receiver which it would process it, and it would be output in the form of a buzzer or a light lighting up. Um so my personal preferences for how to build the remote would probably be uh, battery for the energy source, that way you wouldn't have to plug it in, um a button pad for input, um we can purchase a pre-made chip which will handle all the processing stuff, I_R_ transmitter to communicate to the T_V_, that's just sort of standard, um so most T_V_s have an I_R_ receiver. Probably a radio receiver to send out location function and to receive it and I'd probably say a buzzer for the location function on the remote itself. So that concludes my presentation. Tracy Folse: 'Kay. Robert Damore: Do you know about like I dunno, Jon Goldberg: Mm? Robert Damore: you seem like you know about Jon Goldberg: Yeah, uh I d I was an engineer Robert Damore: Okay. Jon Goldberg: before I came here. Robert Damore: Cool. Tracy Folse: Okay. Well thank you everybody. Um we have we'll discuss that and then I just wanna mention some new project requirements that came in. Um, teletext is apparently outdated, so due to internet popularity, so that's off the list. Um, also our remote should be used only for television, um, no extra internet kinda fancy things, just the remote and the television. Um and also we need to incorporate our corporate image onto this, so um the phrase is, we put fashion in electronics, so let's be fashionable I guess. Um if we have something I mean silver and and gold or yellow are our colours, so if we had a like a kind of silver one like you saw, and yellow writing, something like that. Okay. Um. So we need to make some decisions on the remote control functions. Um, yeah. Do Let's I guess we should yeah make some kind of brainstorming, Robert Damore: Like Tracy Folse: see Robert Damore: in terms Tracy Folse: what we can Robert Damore: of Chad Smith: How it looks Robert Damore: how Chad Smith: or Robert Damore: it looks, or like what Tracy Folse: wha Robert Damore: it does? Tracy Folse: what um well probably our target group and how it's gonna going to appeal to our target group Robert Damore: Okay. Tracy Folse: and I dunno the the s the buttons and what it does and Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: that sort of thing. Robert Damore: Okay. Tracy Folse: So. Robert Damore: So Is our target group then people so do we wanna go ahead and design this thing with the finder button? So Tracy Folse: I think that Jon Goldberg: It's Tracy Folse: seems Jon Goldberg: easy to Tracy Folse: to Jon Goldberg: implement. Tracy Folse: yeah. Robert Damore: Okay. Tracy Folse: Mm. Robert Damore: So Chad Smith: the the Robert Damore: the Chad Smith: buzzer you Robert Damore: yeah, Chad Smith: mean, Robert Damore: yeah, Chad Smith: yeah, Robert Damore: yeah. Jon Goldberg: Locator. Chad Smith: for sure, Robert Damore: So Chad Smith: yeah. Robert Damore: then our target age group would be the nineteen to thirty five range, Tracy Folse: Yeah, Robert Damore: what Tracy Folse: teenagers Robert Damore: was it? Tracy Folse: and young professionals. Chad Smith: Well that's for speech recognition. Robert Damore: Oh. Jon Goldberg: Well Tracy Folse: Oh, Chad Smith: And screen. Tracy Folse: uh. Chad Smith: That's only for Jon Goldberg: I Chad Smith: speech Jon Goldberg: was thinking Chad Smith: recognition Jon Goldberg: about Chad Smith: and Jon Goldberg: that Chad Smith: screen. Jon Goldberg: but uh I mean speech recognition is really hard to programme, and also, Tracy Folse: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: if the T_V_ is on it's making sound and the people on the T_V_ are talking, and if somebody says like one, then the T_V_'s gonna switch itself to channel one, Chad Smith: Yeah yeah Jon Goldberg: or Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: Mm. Chad Smith: yeah. Jon Goldberg: it Chad Smith: I Jon Goldberg: seems Chad Smith: mean Jon Goldberg: like a silly, Robert Damore: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: I'm not sure how you would implement it. Chad Smith: I just put the values in. Tracy Folse: And Chad Smith: But Tracy Folse: if Chad Smith: um Tracy Folse: if you Chad Smith: the Tracy Folse: consider Chad Smith: screen Tracy Folse: our Chad Smith: is Tracy Folse: budget, Chad Smith: the same as Tracy Folse: it Chad Smith: what, Tracy Folse: probably Jon Goldberg: It's a cool idea Tracy Folse: if you consider Jon Goldberg: but Tracy Folse: our budget, to Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: h have speech recognition programmed in every single remote might be a little Chad Smith: Yeah, I'm Tracy Folse: pricey. Chad Smith: happy with Tracy Folse: Yeah. Chad Smith: that. Completely. Robert Damore: Hu yeah. Tracy Folse: Right so um Robert Damore: Okay so are we gonna have just some kind of a like we'll have the buzzer Tracy Folse: yeah. Robert Damore: on the som like on the T_V_ itself. Jon Goldberg: Well you would have to have a button on a T_V_ Chad Smith: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: or on your wall or some place Tracy Folse: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: since the T_V_ already has power. Robert Damore: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: Yeah you click the button, it's gonna send out a signal, and I was thinking, I_R_ is line of sight, so unless the remote is like actually in front of the T_V_ it's not gonna work, um so probably like a radio signal like on a Robert Damore: Okay. Jon Goldberg: on a Robert Damore: Okay. Chad Smith: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: cell phone. Chad Smith: Okay. Robert Damore: Alright. Tracy Folse: Okay. Jon Goldberg: Sends out a signal and then the the remote hears the signal and so it beeps probably. Robert Damore: Okay. Tracy Folse: So you you'd need like a separate base for that or like something Jon Goldberg: It would have Tracy Folse: you Jon Goldberg: to Tracy Folse: can Jon Goldberg: be sold separately because Tracy Folse: right. Jon Goldberg: if the sender's on the remote then you'd have to find the remote first to click the button to Tracy Folse: Yeah, Jon Goldberg: find the remote. Tracy Folse: yeah. Chad Smith: So do you plug it in the T_ you plug it in T_V_, this Jon Goldberg: Yeah, it'd Chad Smith: thing? Jon Goldberg: probably just stick it on your T_V_ so Chad Smith: Okay. Jon Goldberg: if you need to find the remote, click Chad Smith: Okay. Jon Goldberg: the button. Robert Damore: So it's now like a two-part Jon Goldberg: Yeah, Robert Damore: thing. Jon Goldberg: so it would be Robert Damore: Okay. Jon Goldberg: a two part package. Robert Damore: Alright. Chad Smith: Okay. Robert Damore: So we get to design that too. Make it fashionable. Um, okay. Tracy Folse: So do you think even though we're not talking about speek speech recognition our target group should still be teenagers and young professionals. Jon Goldberg: Yeah I think Chad Smith: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: so. Tracy Folse: Huh. Chad Smith: Just there. Tracy Folse: Okay. Chad Smith: Mm. Are we um should that thing be on the thing to put the you s you talking about a home for it. Do you Tracy Folse: Yeah. Chad Smith: still want to build a little thing next to the telly or to p hang on the wall or shall we leave that for now? Tracy Folse: We probably leave that. I mean I guess one takes care of the other, Chad Smith: Okay. Tracy Folse: like Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: um if you can yeah if you can call it then it's Robert Damore: Then it can live anywhere. Tracy Folse: Yeah. Chad Smith: Okay. Robert Damore: Yeah. Chad Smith: For the so you have that button, that so there's is there a light or shall we leave just have a radio? Jon Goldberg: Um Chad Smith: Are we just Jon Goldberg: on the Chad Smith: having Jon Goldberg: T_V_ Chad Smith: a radio? Jon Goldberg: or on the phone? Chad Smith: On the phone. Jon Goldberg: Um Robert Damore: T Jon Goldberg: it seemed Chad Smith: You don't Jon Goldberg: like a Chad Smith: need a light. Jon Goldberg: a beep seemed the most Chad Smith: Yeah Jon Goldberg: reasonable Chad Smith: yeah Jon Goldberg: to Chad Smith, Chad Smith: yeah. Jon Goldberg: I think Tracy Folse: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: that's what the phone Chad Smith: Yeah Jon Goldberg: has, Chad Smith: yeah. Tracy Folse: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: I mean when you need to find your phone, you just have someone call it and it starts ringing somewhere and then you can figure out Tracy Folse: And Jon Goldberg: that it's Tracy Folse: like Jon Goldberg: in the Tracy Folse: if Jon Goldberg: couch Tracy Folse: the Jon Goldberg: or Tracy Folse: if Jon Goldberg: wherever. Tracy Folse: the phone's under the couch, you Chad Smith: You Tracy Folse: might Chad Smith: can Tracy Folse: not Chad Smith: hear Tracy Folse: see the Chad Smith: it's Tracy Folse: light, Chad Smith: under the Tracy Folse: so Chad Smith: couch yeah. Tracy Folse: yeah. Robert Damore: So Chad Smith: Um, Robert Damore: i Yeah. Chad Smith: So need the other buttons. So we have this Tracy Folse: So Chad Smith: mm. Tracy Folse: I mean the two remotes that you had shown r I don't remember Chad Smith: Mm-hmm. Tracy Folse: who Robert Damore: That Tracy Folse: showed Robert Damore: was Tracy Folse: them, Robert Damore: that Tracy Folse: yeah Robert Damore: was Chad Smith. Tracy Folse: you you did um, they're I mean one looked like it was for V_C_R_ type thing, and the other looked like just Robert Damore: I Tracy Folse: television. Robert Damore: think w I think they're both sort of just like general remo they're both general Tracy Folse: Oh really. Robert Damore: remotes. And Tracy Folse: 'Cause that Robert Damore: uh Tracy Folse: that is something we have to decide, is whether we want to have V_C_R_ capabilities. Robert Damore: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: Does anyone know if V_C_R_s are the same across international? Tracy Folse: They're not Chad Smith: They're not, Tracy Folse: no. Chad Smith: no. Jon Goldberg: Okay, so you'd Robert Damore: S Jon Goldberg: need like a whole different Tracy Folse: Yeah, Jon Goldberg: set of buttons Tracy Folse: that's Chad Smith: It Jon Goldberg: for Tracy Folse: right, Jon Goldberg: everybody's Chad Smith: not Tracy Folse: yeah. Chad Smith: V_H_S_ Jon Goldberg: V_C_R_s. Tracy Folse: But Chad Smith: here? Tracy Folse: D_V_D_ probably is. Jon Goldberg: Yeah, other than that region and coding thing. Robert Damore: Um Chad Smith: But V_C_R_s Tracy Folse: And and if we're if we're targeting young professionals and teenagers, I mean it's gonna be D_V_D_ type, Chad Smith: Yeah. Tracy Folse: that's Chad Smith: Yeah, Tracy Folse: the Chad Smith: for Tracy Folse: the Chad Smith: sure. Tracy Folse: technology Robert Damore: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: Mm-hmm. Tracy Folse: these days. Robert Damore: So. Okay, let's see if I can I think still though, it shouldn't be that hard to take like just reduce the number of buttons you know, Tracy Folse: Yeah. Robert Damore: like 'cause if you just have like one menu button, that works like with a you know, or you can just kind of scroll through the Tracy Folse: Yeah. Robert Damore: options u Chad Smith: Well Robert Damore: that Chad Smith: for Robert Damore: come Chad Smith: sure Robert Damore: up Chad Smith: we Robert Damore: on the Chad Smith: need Robert Damore: T_V_. Chad Smith: the um I think we can just design the channels? I mean power's Tracy Folse: S Chad Smith: just a button, Robert Damore: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: Mm-hmm. Tracy Folse: Huh. Chad Smith: and it's not used that much, s and Robert Damore: Yeah. Chad Smith: it's usually that red Robert Damore: Yeah. Chad Smith: and I think it's quite nice to keep it like Robert Damore: Yeah. Chad Smith: red. Tracy Folse: You know, I've seen some remotes that where you just hold one, like if you hold one down it's it's a different colour than the other buttons but that turns it on. So you don't actually have a separate power button, Chad Smith: Oh Tracy Folse: it's Chad Smith: okay, Tracy Folse: just Chad Smith: yeah. Robert Damore: It seems like that would be Tracy Folse: But Robert Damore: hard though. I mean, like because unless you Tracy Folse: It might Robert Damore: know Tracy Folse: be confusing. Robert Damore: yeah. Tracy Folse: Yeah. Robert Damore: Just 'cause I wouldn't I would probably pick it up and just Tracy Folse: Yeah. Robert Damore: be like uh why is there no on Tracy Folse: Besides Robert Damore: button. Tracy Folse: you like to be able Jon Goldberg: Yeah, Tracy Folse: to go Jon Goldberg: I never Chad Smith: Yeah. Tracy Folse: power. Jon Goldberg: think to hold something Tracy Folse: I Robert Damore: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: down. Robert Damore: B Tracy Folse: have the power Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: I guess. So we definitely want a power button and numbers. Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: Right. Chad Smith: Well even um iPod thing, like um, I don't know if people like this Robert Damore: That Chad Smith: scrolling Robert Damore: sort of like Chad Smith: I Robert Damore: joystick Chad Smith: don't know. Robert Damore: flat Tracy Folse: Mm. Robert Damore: touch Chad Smith: Yeah. Robert Damore: thing, yeah. Chad Smith: Because people li seem now the iPod's out people seem to like this thing that there's no Know you don't have one two three Robert Damore: Yeah, Chad Smith: four Robert Damore: yeah. Chad Smith: five Robert Damore: I think that's an interesting idea, 'cause Tracy Folse: Mm. Robert Damore: it's cool, it's it's funny like you f like I just I don't have an iPod but like I, you know, I just like started messing around with one of my friend's the other day, and you just sort of and it's funny how you pick it up and you just figure out how to use it quite easily, like it's not that hard, Tracy Folse: Yeah. Robert Damore: you know. Chad Smith: Yeah yeah, it's just and it's one thing Robert Damore: Yeah, Chad Smith: which has Robert Damore: and Chad Smith: everything. Robert Damore: it is yeah. It is really but do you need a screen then, do you have to have a screen then? Chad Smith: Well can't it tell the like can't you Jon Goldberg: Yeah, you Chad Smith: if Jon Goldberg: can Chad Smith: you Jon Goldberg: have the number going Chad Smith: you Robert Damore: Yeah. Chad Smith: can Jon Goldberg: around Chad Smith: have the number Jon Goldberg: in the corner. Robert Damore: Okay. Chad Smith: on the telly going Robert Damore: Yeah. Chad Smith: like one two three four five Robert Damore: Yeah. Chad Smith: once you scroll Robert Damore: Okay Chad Smith: and then Robert Damore: so we Tracy Folse: Oh Robert Damore: have Tracy Folse: that's Robert Damore: this Tracy Folse: gonna Robert Damore: like scrolling sort of button. Tracy Folse: Is that like on Robert Damore: Like a Tracy Folse: on Robert Damore: disc. Tracy Folse: a mouse pad where Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: like kind Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: of Robert Damore: It's Tracy Folse: okay. Robert Damore: like it's just like the same Tracy Folse: I've Chad Smith: It's Tracy Folse: never Chad Smith: like Robert Damore: technology Tracy Folse: used Chad Smith: l Tracy Folse: one. Robert Damore: as a mouse Chad Smith: this Tracy Folse: No. Robert Damore: pad. Chad Smith: like that, and Tracy Folse: Okay. Chad Smith: then you do that. Tracy Folse: Okay. Robert Damore: Yeah. Yeah Chad Smith: And Robert Damore: and Chad Smith: then Robert Damore: then. Chad Smith: you can have um if you actually just want to zap, you can have like a thing like that, and that, and then it can just be plus and minus. Robert Damore: Okay. So like it's like a little part of the circle that Or it Chad Smith: Yeah, Robert Damore: oh Chad Smith: you can Robert Damore: so it's just Tracy Folse: Well Robert Damore: a region Tracy Folse: i Robert Damore: of the circle that you can Chad Smith: Yeah, click Robert Damore: zap. Chad Smith: o actually Robert Damore: Okay. Chad Smith: click Tracy Folse: We could Chad Smith: on to Tracy Folse: we could Chad Smith: have Tracy Folse: even have four buttons, like, if that's the if that's the mouse, you could have the volume Chad Smith: Yeah. Tracy Folse: and the channel changers Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: just like on that as well. Robert Damore: be like the top it and the bottom So do you need to Jon Goldberg: Doesn't Robert Damore: okay. Jon Goldberg: it rotate though, so it'll be Robert Damore: Well Jon Goldberg: moving Robert Damore: y you Jon Goldberg: around. Robert Damore: have to you have to like be able to change the function of it to like Chad Smith: What do you mean the function? Robert Damore: I mean like okay, 'cause so I dunno, I guess Okay so when you g scroll your thumb like around it, it'll s like say you're go you're going clockwise. That that means you're gonna go up the channels, and then you Chad Smith: Yeah. Robert Damore: scroll the other way and it'll go down. Chad Smith: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: Mm-hmm. Robert Damore: But then so if you wanna switch to the to u do you have to switch to a function where like y so you're either in that mode or you're in the mode where like it just has like the four like you know this is channel that way, that's that way and volume is up and down. Chad Smith: Yeah but it knows for some Robert Damore: It Chad Smith: reason. Robert Damore: just Chad Smith: The iPod knows. Robert Damore: It just kno the iPod knows. S Jon Goldberg: If it works on an iPod then it works. Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: Huh. Robert Damore: So you just you just Jon Goldberg: I don't Robert Damore: can Jon Goldberg: have Robert Damore: either Jon Goldberg: one. Robert Damore: do this or like you can just touch it if you want. Chad Smith: Well for the volume you have to press the middle, Robert Damore: Okay. That's Chad Smith: and Robert Damore: what Chad Smith: then Robert Damore: I mean. Okay. Chad Smith: go up. Robert Damore: Okay so you have to like Jon Goldberg: Oh. Robert Damore: press this middle region and then you can scroll up, go up Chad Smith: And Robert Damore: and down. Chad Smith: then Tracy Folse: So Chad Smith: well Tracy Folse: it's like Chad Smith: if you Tracy Folse: holding Chad Smith: do that it goes, but if you like that makes more sense 'cause there's already ones with up and down Tracy Folse: You can Chad Smith: here, Tracy Folse: o Chad Smith: that I've seen. Tracy Folse: And you you is there an extra actual button? Or are you actually you're just using the mouse to go up and down. Chad Smith: Well what you Tracy Folse: Like Chad Smith: for the Robert Damore: It's Chad Smith: iPod Robert Damore: like a b Chad Smith: you press an w right if you're on the channel let's Tracy Folse: Mm-hmm. Chad Smith: say, then you press on the middle Tracy Folse: Mm-hmm. Chad Smith: and then if you do that again the volume goes up, and Tracy Folse: Right. Chad Smith: if you do that it goes down. Tracy Folse: Mm-hmm. Chad Smith: But if you wanna keep it with volume here and here, I'm pretty sure Tracy Folse: this for channels, right, Chad Smith: Yeah. Tracy Folse: then y wouldn't the volume need to be separate somehow? Like you could just have Chad Smith: I don't know, you Tracy Folse: Oh, Chad Smith: could click Tracy Folse: like Chad Smith: and then have it up and Robert Damore: Like Chad Smith: down, Tracy Folse: Oh Chad Smith: but Tracy Folse: you Chad Smith: I think Tracy Folse: could actually Robert Damore: I think we can go on the fact that it does just work with the Chad Smith: Yeah Robert Damore: iPod. Chad Smith: yeah Jon Goldberg: Yeah. Tracy Folse: Yeah. Robert Damore: But Chad Smith: yeah. Robert Damore: the only thing is like, iPods are so expensive, like, it has to be is that part of Tracy Folse: Is that what makes them Robert Damore: yeah, Tracy Folse: expensi I think Robert Damore: I Tracy Folse: it's Robert Damore: dunno, Tracy Folse: all of they Robert Damore: I dunno. Tracy Folse: have Jon Goldberg: I don't Tracy Folse: so Jon Goldberg: think Tracy Folse: much Jon Goldberg: so. Tracy Folse: memory though, Robert Damore: You don't Tracy Folse: that's Robert Damore: think so? Tracy Folse: it's Jon Goldberg: I Robert Damore: Okay. Jon Goldberg: don't think it's the Chad Smith: I think Jon Goldberg: wheel Chad Smith: it Jon Goldberg: dealy. Tracy Folse: Yeah. Chad Smith: Yeah. Tracy Folse: I think Robert Damore: Okay. Tracy Folse: it's the uh h it's their capabili I mean they it can hold what like five thousand Jon Goldberg: Yeah. Tracy Folse: songs Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: or something. Robert Damore: I'm thinking we could if if we're hav So ba I mean but an iPod Jon Goldberg: re-programmable Robert Damore: just has that Jon Goldberg: aren't Robert Damore: circle Jon Goldberg: they? You Robert Damore: thing Tracy Folse: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: can put Robert Damore: you Jon Goldberg: on Robert Damore: know. Jon Goldberg: your songs and then put on a Tracy Folse: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: different set, that's Tracy Folse: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: probably why they're expensive, Robert Damore: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: they're like little Tracy Folse: S Jon Goldberg: computers. Robert Damore: Yeah. Well like since it just has the circle thing, you could make it a qui a kind of cool shape, like it could be a cool Chad Smith: Yeah. Robert Damore: sort of Jon Goldberg: Mm-hmm. Robert Damore: you know, because it could be circular, Chad Smith: Yeah Robert Damore: you Chad Smith: yeah Robert Damore: know, Chad Smith: yeah. Robert Damore: or something weird like Chad Smith: Well Robert Damore: that, Chad Smith: it could Robert Damore: just Chad Smith: just be simple instead of being a l mass. Because, the other thing, I didn't tell you all my presentation, is that people find it find that it's a big waste of time to have to learn how to use your remote Robert Damore: Yeah. Chad Smith: and that's Tracy Folse: Mm. Chad Smith: another thing they complained about. Robert Damore: Yeah. Chad Smith: Um, what other buttons were there? Volume oh we've ts just said that. Robert Damore: So okay. Chad Smith: Channel selection. Robert Damore: This is just for T_V_, it's not for or it is does need to be compatible with Jon Goldberg: I Tracy Folse: Um Jon Goldberg: A D_V_D_ is simple, you just have play, Robert Damore: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: pause, Robert Damore: So Chad Smith: Menu. Robert Damore: how do Tracy Folse: You Jon Goldberg: eject, Robert Damore: you Tracy Folse: know Robert Damore: switch Tracy Folse: actually our our new project requirements, Jon Goldberg: and Tracy Folse: I'm Jon Goldberg: menu Tracy Folse: not sure Jon Goldberg: maybe. Tracy Folse: if they meant o onl use only for television as in not for D_V_D_ or just not Jon Goldberg: Oh yeah. Tracy Folse: internet type things. So I'll I'll Robert Damore: Okay. Tracy Folse: check that and update you on the next Robert Damore: So like if we had Tracy Folse: But Robert Damore: that Tracy Folse: we'll hold off on that 'cause Robert Damore: Yeah. Tracy Folse: But s yeah Chad Smith: But Tracy Folse: uh. Chad Smith: D_V_D_ players usually have their own remote. Robert Damore: That's true, yeah. Tracy Folse: Yeah. Robert Damore: So, I know I'm not c really Jon Goldberg: But it's Robert Damore: clear Jon Goldberg: cool Robert Damore: on Jon Goldberg: to have Robert Damore: what Jon Goldberg: it all on one, because Chad Smith: Yeah, Jon Goldberg: you Robert Damore: Yeah, Jon Goldberg: wanna turn Chad Smith: yeah, Jon Goldberg: it Robert Damore: yeah. Chad Smith: yeah. Jon Goldberg: on then you wanna turn up the volume, and then you wanna go to Tracy Folse: Mm. Jon Goldberg: the menu, Chad Smith: Yeah. Robert Damore: So Jon Goldberg: so Robert Damore: you'd have Tracy Folse: Mm. Robert Damore: to have like Jon Goldberg: you don't Robert Damore: I Jon Goldberg: wanna Robert Damore: think Jon Goldberg: switch. Robert Damore: you would have to have like a function switch button, you know somewhere so like you can you're either on T_V_, you're on D_V_D_ or you're on V_C_R_, Tracy Folse: Yeah. Robert Damore: or you're like. Jon Goldberg: Well Robert Damore: So Jon Goldberg: but D_V_D_ is only like four buttons. Chad Smith: Yeah, it Robert Damore: Yeah, Chad Smith: is Robert Damore: but Chad Smith: only Robert Damore: I mean Chad Smith: fun Robert Damore: like to switch Tracy Folse: But Robert Damore: the fun Tracy Folse: i Robert Damore: so like to switch the function of the little circle disc, the touch Jon Goldberg: Oh. Robert Damore: pad. Tracy Folse: Yeah. Jon Goldberg: But I think the circle only does channel isn't applicable to D_V_D_ really 'cause you don't wanna Robert Damore: Yeah but it it Jon Goldberg: but Robert Damore: would Jon Goldberg: volume Robert Damore: be Jon Goldberg: is and volume is actually controlled on the T_V_ so you don't have to switch. Robert Damore: So but I'm saying like, does it make sense to have like some kind of a button, so like you're if you're on T_V_, like you can switch channels, but then if uh if you're on D_V_D_ then like the channel bu like the the region of the disc that was for channels is for like switching to different tracks or s you know, to different I mean do we need to think about that, that like Tracy Folse: Um, Jon Goldberg: Yes we Tracy Folse: yeah, Jon Goldberg: can try Tracy Folse: let's Jon Goldberg: that. Tracy Folse: think about it 'cause we need to wrap up. Um Chad Smith: Okay. Tracy Folse: let's see. Um so everyone's gonna go finish their questionnaire, uh then when we come back after lunch we'll have thirty minutes of individual work, um yeah, so think about the things we've discussed and bring some new ideas to our next meeting. See you soon.

Chad Smith gave a presentation about user requirements as shown through a usability study and demonstrated that only a small number of functions on a remote were used with frequency. She suggested focusing the interface design on the most frequently used functions. Robert Damore presented some questions that should be considered in making the device user-friendly and displayed two existing remote controls for comparison. Jon Goldberg discussed the necessary internal components and how they operated together, and presented her preferences for the type of each component to be used. Tracy Folse gave the group several new requirements for the project. The group discussed several product features and decided that the remote will feature a locator function and will not feature speech recognition. The group discussed whether or not the remote should control multiple devices. They discussed important button functions to include and increasing usability by incorporating a scroll wheel in the design. Tracy Folse instructed the other participants to fill out a questionnaire and to work on their individual presentations for the next meeting.

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Frank Williams: 'Kay. Hmm. Okay everybody. Welcome to the design meeting. Um Let's see. Our agenda. Last time we discussed the squishy fruitiness of our remote controls and how we might pursue that. Um and I think looks like we've come up with some ideas. Um and we also talked about materials we'd use and what kind of chip would be necessary. Um so for later in the meeting I've done a a spreadsheet of production costs so we'll take a look at that. and see it's changed all when we last discussed it. Um so actually I think Yeah um f you guys wanna give a prototype presentation of Thomas Ebinger: Okay well um. So our design looks something like this. This being the wheel that you use to uh change channels or volume or whatever. This is a button, serves as the power button if you hold it down, and if you just tap on it I think it brings up the menu. And uh the base of the remote control, which has a squishy spongy rubbery feel, is interchangeable. So you can change the colour, according to your to suit your living room or whatever. And David Rodriguez: You could Thomas Ebinger: it comes David Rodriguez: change the vegetable, Thomas Ebinger: yeah, I can change David Rodriguez: or fruit. Thomas Ebinger: the vegetable. Frank Williams: Oh is that broccoli? Thomas Ebinger: This David Rodriguez: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: one's broccoli. So this snaps off and you can put on whichever one you want. This is not to scale 'cause it would have the battery inside it. This is a mango. The it's trendy fruit, it's not just ordinary fruits. You don't have orange, you have mango. Um I guess strawberry's not as Frank Williams: 'S Thomas Ebinger: trendy, Frank Williams: a very Thomas Ebinger: but Frank Williams: bright strawberry. Thomas Ebinger: So we'll come up with a variety of trendy and exciting fruit designs for the remote control. David Rodriguez: It's Thomas Ebinger: And then David Rodriguez: been Thomas Ebinger: people David Rodriguez: a Thomas Ebinger: will David Rodriguez: l Thomas Ebinger: be encouraged to buy three or five of them, because they'll need to switch 'em out. David Rodriguez: It's been a little bit difficult to um make sure that it's hand-holdable, and that the user can use it, you know, it's not too big. Uh but we think that this you know, this size will be okay and we will have to fit the battery case in there Thomas Ebinger: Mm-hmm. David Rodriguez: somehow. Frank Williams: Oh David Rodriguez: And Frank Williams: yeah. David Rodriguez: I guess the only other thing that we really didn't talk about was or design actually, would be the thing the locator. How how so Thomas Ebinger: Well the locator is just chip that's inside there. David Rodriguez: Okay so that's just Thomas Ebinger: And the beeper's also inside there too somewhere. David Rodriguez: So you have to have a button on your on your you have to attach the button to the Thomas Ebinger: Yeah we didn't design that. David Rodriguez: Yeah we have that that has yes yet Thomas Ebinger: But David Rodriguez: to Thomas Ebinger: it David Rodriguez: be Thomas Ebinger: would David Rodriguez: designed. Thomas Ebinger: be coordinating with that of course. David Rodriguez: Yeah that c Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: hey that that could you know match the handset. Thomas Ebinger: Mm-hmm. David Rodriguez: You could have a broccoli, or you could have a mango. So. Tada. Frank Williams: Oh. Um if you wanna look in your project documents folder, there's an Excel spreadsheet. Um the only one that's in there, production costs. And if you open it up. Um I've just stuck the numbers in, it was a real challenge there. But if I missed anything that we've gone over, or if you see something that has changed I mean, we decided on batteries, and the regular chip would be necessary for the more advanced iPod-like button. Um I said uncurved or flat. I think that's what you have there, is that right? For the for the plastic part would be Thomas Ebinger: My impression was that flat meant like like one of those square remotes. But it's Frank Williams: Oh. Thomas Ebinger: really not very Frank Williams: Okay. Thomas Ebinger: clear, because you got single curve and double curve and Frank Williams: Right. Thomas Ebinger: d I dunno what that means. One side is curved and then the other side is curved. Frank Williams: Well yeah. If we're talking about the area just oh I d I dunno. I guess we'd have to contact the company that makes them and see. Um so what else? There's plastic for that area around the button. Um and then rubber would be the squishy like thing right? Thomas Ebinger: Mm-hmm. Frank Williams: Um and lots of special colours actually. Uh scroll wheel. Do you see anything that I've missed? Thomas Ebinger: No I think that's alright. Frank Williams: Okay so that would make our total of eleven point nine, which is even less than twelve point five, which means we'd be making even more of a profit. And if we sold a lot of squishy things. David Rodriguez: Mm. Frank Williams: Boo yeah. Okay. S So Mm. Frank Williams: Did y what did you work on? The Robert Leslie: Um evaluation criteria. Frank Williams: Okay. Do you wanna Robert Leslie: I've got a presentation Frank Williams: Okay. I think Robert Leslie: So I need Frank Williams: that's Robert Leslie: where's the cable? Robert Leslie: Right what happens is we have to um decide whether this this whole this whole project we've been working on actually um meets the standards we were set at the start. Um. Right. This doesn't okay. Um the method is we well I've analysed the user requirements and integrated them to the trends found in marketing reports and in our company strategy marketing. And um findings were that we need it a way, a way, and this is everything's listed down. Um, look in a certain way, feel in a certain way, it has to be technologically innovative and it has to be easy to use. These are all things we looked at at the start, um and criteria that have to be met. We have to use a table, I'll show you that later, together to decide whether it meets the standards. And we we have therefore in total um We have five we have eleven points according to which this should be evaluated. And um the cri well basically the findings are the same as the evaluation criteria. I would like to show you the table we have to use. Um. No. This is the table. Can you see this here? Thomas Ebinger: Mm-hmm. Robert Leslie: Um so the que the questions I've given you c could you write that down? True is one and and false is seven. And we'll just go through each point together, hopefully. Um. I think if each of us gives an opinion then they can be mixed somehow. I dunno how it works exactly, I haven't David Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Leslie: been told. David Rodriguez: Is it possible that we can bring this up on our own Robert Leslie: Yeah it's in the um it's in the project documents. David Rodriguez: Is it meeting three minutes? No it's not Robert Leslie: It's David Rodriguez: minutes. Robert Leslie: called evaluation criteria. David Rodriguez: Okay. Robert Leslie: And it's under evaluation. Frank Williams: Huh, the PowerPoint Thomas Ebinger: Hmm? Frank Williams: one? Robert Leslie: Yeah. David Rodriguez: Okay. Cool. Robert Leslie: You've found it all? Frank Williams: Yeah. Robert Leslie: So it was um Yeah true's one. David Rodriguez: True's one and false is seven. Robert Leslie: Do you want us to discuss this together or do you want us to do it singly? Frank Williams: Um we can do it separately and then discuss Robert Leslie: Yeah okay. Frank Williams: it if if that's what people wanna do. David Rodriguez: So it's actually a scale. Frank Williams: Wait, one is true and Robert Leslie: Um, Frank Williams: so these are the questions we're answering. Robert Leslie: yes Frank Williams: And Robert Leslie: it's Frank Williams: one is Robert Leslie: if it's fancy you put one, Frank Williams: One, right Robert Leslie: if Frank Williams: okay. Robert Leslie: it's really unfancy it's seven. Frank Williams: If it's somewhere in between you put four. Robert Leslie: Yeah, something. David Rodriguez: Okay. Frank Williams: Okay. David Rodriguez: Does it feel fancy? Thomas Ebinger: Feels like play-dough. David Rodriguez: No. Robert Leslie: They shouldn't really be questions. Should be more like Robert Leslie: Are the batteries easy to insert? Thomas Ebinger: I'm gonna say yes. Robert Leslie: Yes? Very very true. Okay. Thomas Ebinger: I imagine they're somewhere on the front. We have a little case that you slip 'em in. Robert Leslie: Okay. Frank Williams: Are we just about ready? Robert Leslie: Apparently I'm supposed to use the whiteboard. Do we um is it necessary? Frank Williams: I don't think so. It's Robert Leslie: We'll just do Frank Williams: yeah Robert Leslie: um Frank Williams: the the marker thing kinda stopped working last time David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: we David Rodriguez: Okay. Robert Leslie: Yeah. Frank Williams: Our animals Robert Leslie: Okay. Frank Williams: will forever be there. Un unless you feel you need it t to Robert Leslie: I don't feel any Frank Williams: okay okay. We'll Robert Leslie: right um Right so one point one? We'll just go in a circle. David Rodriguez: One. Thomas Ebinger: 'Kay Five. Robert Leslie: Right. Ooh I don't know. Right. One? Thomas Ebinger: Five. Frank Williams: Five. Robert Leslie: Five. Two. Okay so do we just add it up and divide it by four? Is that what the company does? Frank Williams: I I think we should Thomas Ebinger: It's four if you wanna do that. Frank Williams: Yeah. Robert Leslie: Yeah? Thomas Ebinger: It adds Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: to sixteen, so that's four. Robert Leslie: Oh no. It adds to thirteen. One five five two. Thomas Ebinger: Oh I thought she said five. David Rodriguez: Hmm. Robert Leslie: One five five two is thirteen, over four for now. I think that's um next? David Rodriguez: Um three. Thomas Ebinger: Six. Frank Williams: Six. Robert Leslie: Really? David Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Leslie: Two. Frank Williams: I wasn't Robert Leslie: Uh-oh. Frank Williams: cheating I swear. Robert Leslie: Right. One point three is David Rodriguez: So it's a one was true and seven was false? Thomas Ebinger: Huh? Frank Williams: Uh. Robert Leslie: Yeah. David Rodriguez: Okay, so you guys really didn't like it? Robert Leslie: I Frank Williams: Oh Robert Leslie: really Thomas Ebinger: Wait Frank Williams: I thought Thomas Ebinger: a minute. Frank Williams: it was the other way round. Thomas Ebinger: I thought it was the other way round too. Robert Leslie: Well Frank Williams: So we do have about Robert Leslie: uh Frank Williams: the Thomas Ebinger: Sh Frank Williams: same thing, we just have it the other Thomas Ebinger: Yeah Frank Williams: way Thomas Ebinger: I Robert Leslie: Yeah yeah. It was Thomas Ebinger: I was Robert Leslie: one Thomas Ebinger: thinking Robert Leslie: is Thomas Ebinger: one Robert Leslie: true Thomas Ebinger: means no Robert Leslie: and Thomas Ebinger: points, you know, Robert Leslie: false Thomas Ebinger: all the way Robert Leslie: is Thomas Ebinger: up Robert Leslie: seven. Thomas Ebinger: to the top. Robert Leslie: I should've kept the table up. Frank Williams: Oh Thomas Ebinger: I'll just Frank Williams: gosh. Okay. Thomas Ebinger: I'll just Frank Williams: Well Thomas Ebinger: reverse them all. It's no problem. Frank Williams: Yeah. Robert Leslie: Right, well I'm glad this came out. David Rodriguez: I was like, why did you guys design it that Robert Leslie: Yeah. David Rodriguez: way if you hated Thomas Ebinger: I thought David Rodriguez: it? Thomas Ebinger: you guys hated it. Robert Leslie: No. Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Leslie: Oh that's quite funny. Thomas Ebinger: Okay. Robert Leslie: Okay. Frank Williams: Yeah. Robert Leslie: Okay. So, starting again, one point one? David Rodriguez: One. Thomas Ebinger: Say two. Frank Williams: Three. Robert Leslie: Two. Okay, one point two? David Rodriguez: Uh three. Thomas Ebinger: Two. Frank Williams: Two. Robert Leslie: Two. Okay. Um, one point three? David Rodriguez: One. Frank Williams: One. Thomas Ebinger: One. Robert Leslie: Ha. Two point one? David Rodriguez: Uh Frank Williams: Two. David Rodriguez: two. Thomas Ebinger: Uh two. Frank Williams: Two point I think I missed two. Wait, is that two point one? Thomas Ebinger: Yeah I put it Robert Leslie: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: down as one point four Frank Williams: One Robert Leslie: Oh Thomas Ebinger: for Frank Williams: point Thomas Ebinger: some Robert Leslie: dear, Frank Williams: four, Thomas Ebinger: reason. Frank Williams: one point five. Robert Leslie: okay. Frank Williams: Okay right Robert Leslie: Sorry. Frank Williams: that's I have two of them. Thomas Ebinger: Mine has all kinds of Robert Leslie: Two Thomas Ebinger: problems. Robert Leslie: and one. Sorry about that. T two point two, which is one point five. Frank Williams: One. Thomas Ebinger: Uh three. Wait why did I put three? David Rodriguez: Uh one. Thomas Ebinger: I meant Robert Leslie: Okay. Thomas Ebinger: one on mine too. Robert Leslie: Three point one. Is that correct on my Frank Williams: Yeah. Robert Leslie: slide? Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Leslie: Yeah? David Rodriguez: Uh one. Thomas Ebinger: Three point one. I have four. Frank Williams: Three. Robert Leslie: One, four, three, three, three point two? Thomas Ebinger: Three. Frank Williams: Three. David Rodriguez: Uh. One. Robert Leslie: Three point three. David Rodriguez: One. Thomas Ebinger: One. Frank Williams: Two. Robert Leslie: Four point one? David Rodriguez: One. Thomas Ebinger: Two. Frank Williams: Five. Robert Leslie: Two. Four point two. David Rodriguez: Two. Thomas Ebinger: Three. Frank Williams: Four. Robert Leslie: Two and four point three. Thomas Ebinger: Two. Robert Leslie: One, two. David Rodriguez: One. Frank Williams: Two. Robert Leslie: Right so I put one on that. Okay I'll um I'll just do the calculations now if you want to continue. Frank Williams: Okay. Robert Leslie: Or is Frank Williams: Um Robert Leslie: it tedious? I'm I'm sorry this was so tedious Frank Williams: No Robert Leslie: for Frank Williams: no Robert Leslie: everyone. Frank Williams: that's um Robert Leslie: I didn't Frank Williams: I Robert Leslie: know Frank Williams: think Robert Leslie: how Frank Williams: we Robert Leslie: else Frank Williams: should Robert Leslie: to do Frank Williams: look at Robert Leslie: it. Frank Williams: the ones that like where s where people said four, where um it looks like we might wanna discuss changing an aspect of the remote. Robert Leslie: Okay. Well the worst ones were three point one. Thomas Ebinger: Mm-hmm. Robert Leslie: Do does every ones have the slide? Three point Frank Williams: The Robert Leslie: one. Frank Williams: that was material. Robert Leslie: Slide show. Material technologically innovative, okay. Frank Williams: Mm. Robert Leslie: Um, do you want to change it? What are the suggestions? I don't know, anyone? Frank Williams: Um David Rodriguez: Which one is that again sorry? Three point one? Frank Williams: Mm-hmm. Robert Leslie: Yeah that it's three point one was not that good. Four point one. Frank Williams: Does the shape Robert Leslie: The shape. David Rodriguez: I think Robert Leslie: Four point two? Frank Williams: See I'm having I'm having trouble imagining the is it uh gonna be the size, like the the controller? It Thomas Ebinger: I think Frank Williams: or Thomas Ebinger: the Frank Williams: bigger? Thomas Ebinger: wheel would probably be mm. Frank Williams: Because David Rodriguez: What if we just smash all the vegetables down flat? And like then it you could hold it in your hand better. Thomas Ebinger: I think the base would definitely be larger, 'cause some of these are not as easy to hold. They're Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: kinda smallish. Frank Williams: No but I imagine even if it was bigger, like if it's round and it's big then you you can't get David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: that's why remote controls David Rodriguez: The Thomas Ebinger: Yeah. David Rodriguez: flat Frank Williams: are long David Rodriguez: one. Frank Williams: because David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: you have that thumb kind of so c they could all be bananas and cucumbers. David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: Um but I don't s I I personally don't think this is comfortable David Rodriguez: I didn't Frank Williams: to to David Rodriguez: yeah. Frank Williams: sit there, like it's David Rodriguez: But Frank Williams: an David Rodriguez: like Frank Williams: awkward David Rodriguez: if if Frank Williams: position. David Rodriguez: you just squash them flat like and you made it flat Thomas Ebinger: Well if they're that s uh stress ball stuff they would be pretty squishable. David Rodriguez: But it's Thomas Ebinger: Mm. David Rodriguez: still too big I think, in your Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: hand. Yeah. Frank Williams: And would it even resemble fruit that way? I mean David Rodriguez: Yeah like certain ones you'd have to limit the fruit selection, Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: like you could probably do a strawberry still. Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: I think the broccoli would be out. You could do, although the broccoli is quite comfortable, I have to say, like sorta Frank Williams: Yeah David Rodriguez: like Frank Williams: that David Rodriguez: a joystick. Frank Williams: I I when you were holding Robert Leslie: Yeah. Frank Williams: that before, it Robert Leslie: That Frank Williams: actually Robert Leslie: looked Frank Williams: looked Robert Leslie: really good. Frank Williams: yeah. David Rodriguez: I don't know. So Robert Leslie: Are there any fruits that look like broccoli, no? David Rodriguez: Uh. Thomas Ebinger: Not that I can think of. Rhubarb. David Rodriguez: Rhubarb. These obscure Robert Leslie: I think David Rodriguez: fruits. Robert Leslie: that broccoli is my favourite actually. Frank Williams: Yeah. Robert Leslie: Uh despite the David Rodriguez: I think we Frank Williams: What David Rodriguez: needn't Frank Williams: if um the it was just patterns on like we we chose the shape or the sh shape could be whatever we wanted and then it would just be like a design on the rubber. David Rodriguez: Huh? Frank Williams: You David Rodriguez: Oh Frank Williams: know David Rodriguez: okay. Frank Williams: like like Thomas Ebinger: So Frank Williams: just Thomas Ebinger: it's just Frank Williams: a Thomas Ebinger: colour, Frank Williams: printed Thomas Ebinger: and not Frank Williams: yeah Thomas Ebinger: necessarily Frank Williams: or Thomas Ebinger: the shape Frank Williams: coloured Thomas Ebinger: of a strawberry. David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: yeah. David Rodriguez: That could work. Robert Leslie: Yeah. Frank Williams: Or I mean we could even have fruit like around David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: I mean David Rodriguez: Yeah. I dunno. Frank Williams: But Robert Leslie: Yeah Frank Williams: if Robert Leslie: and Frank Williams: we Robert Leslie: just Frank Williams: if Robert Leslie: have the Frank Williams: we Robert Leslie: colour Frank Williams: need Robert Leslie: match or something. Frank Williams: yeah. And if we wanna incorporate the fruit thing somehow, there might be I mean if it if it in if it uh conflicts with the comfort of actually holdi holding David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: the David Rodriguez: 'Cause yeah no-one wants to hold a remote that's uncomfortable obviously. Frank Williams: Mm. Robert Leslie: Mm. David Rodriguez: Or like I dunno, some of 'em you can kind of think see as like like you could if it was only this you know, if it was shaped like that, and it just had that. But you see the problem Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: is you have to attach that, and this has to be detachable. Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: So like maybe that's just too Frank Williams: Well David Rodriguez: big Frank Williams: see th David Rodriguez: because Frank Williams: the reason the broccoli works is you can kinda hold it like that, David Rodriguez: Yeah Frank Williams: which is David Rodriguez: it's Robert Leslie: Yeah. Frank Williams: a David Rodriguez: sorta Frank Williams: nice David Rodriguez: like Frank Williams: kind David Rodriguez: a joystick. Frank Williams: of yeah. But David Rodriguez: I dunno. I guess Frank Williams: I mean is there some way we could make it this kind of shape? 'Cause like Thomas Ebinger: We Frank Williams: kind Thomas Ebinger: could make Frank Williams: of Thomas Ebinger: it that shape but just have different colours, Frank Williams: Yeah, Thomas Ebinger: and call David Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Leslie: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: 'em the Frank Williams: yeah. Thomas Ebinger: different fruits. Frank Williams: Or David Rodriguez: Dif Frank Williams: like Thomas Ebinger: We Frank Williams: even Thomas Ebinger: went with shape because we were having Frank Williams: Or Thomas Ebinger: fun Frank Williams: even Thomas Ebinger: with the play-dough. Frank Williams: like Yeah like you said, like a joystick like that. David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: You know? David Rodriguez: Yeah. Like uh we could do I'm trying to think of other sha like fruits that are oddly shaped. Frank Williams: 'Cause that, I think I mean that fits the whole round iPod idea. David Rodriguez: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: Mm-hmm. Frank Williams: And Robert Leslie: Yeah. Frank Williams: you still have the comfort of holding it like that. David Rodriguez: Mm. Frank Williams: And you could like if it's like this, you could put fruit designs and stuff on David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: that David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: part. David Rodriguez: Alright. Frank Williams: But I mean it do we have any other ideas about that? Robert Leslie: Um David Rodriguez: We could tr I don't know. Robert Leslie: Think the critical ones came out to be yeah that one. Batteries easy to insert for some reason, which can be easily I think that's not a problem Frank Williams: The Robert Leslie: any Frank Williams: batteries are Thomas Ebinger: That Frank Williams: going Robert Leslie: more. Thomas Ebinger: everyone gave that a one or a two. Frank Williams: in the back? Thomas Ebinger: Yeah Robert Leslie: No. Thomas Ebinger: they'd probably be either on the front or the side of Frank Williams: The reason Thomas Ebinger: the remote. Frank Williams: I I ga I didn't give it a one I think I gave it a three because I thought you'd have to like unc Thomas Ebinger: No Frank Williams: clip no Thomas Ebinger: I imagine Frank Williams: you could Thomas Ebinger: there'd be sort of a hatch Frank Williams: Just Thomas Ebinger: door, Frank Williams: like any other one. Thomas Ebinger: yeah um Frank Williams: Okay. Thomas Ebinger: like on a normal remote. Frank Williams: Yeah. Right. Thomas Ebinger: So it would probably either in the f no it can't be in the front 'cause the I_R_'s right there, but it'd be on one of the sides probably. Frank Williams: Okay. Robert Leslie: I think everyone's under three anyway. Frank Williams: Mm. Robert Leslie: So I think it's yeah those are the only two points. David Rodriguez: Cool. Well Yeah the broccoli I guess wins. Robert Leslie: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: Yeah I'd agree with changing the shape. Um, Frank Williams: Okay. Thomas Ebinger: I was just having fun making strawberries and stuff. David Rodriguez: We were a bit off task. Um so uh I can't think of any So we'll have to like Mm. Yeah I dunno. You could make the touch pad in th in different shapes, but then that kind of re-designs the whole project like, but you could do Thomas Ebinger: It might David Rodriguez: like Thomas Ebinger: also sort of annoy people if we get used to having the buttons David Rodriguez: Yeah Thomas Ebinger: in David Rodriguez: that's Thomas Ebinger: one shape. David Rodriguez: true. Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: And it would probably cost more to produce, David Rodriguez: Yeah that's Frank Williams: 'cause David Rodriguez: true. Frank Williams: they're irregular. David Rodriguez: Mm. Thomas Ebinger: I bet having different colours is a lot cheaper than having different shapes too. Frank Williams: Yeah. Which is why printing might be like just printing the fruit on fruit. David Rodriguez: Hmm. Frank Williams: Mm. Frank Williams: Not really Well we've done finance evaluation criteria, production evaluation. Um so project evaluation. Robert Leslie: Do you want this and we can all No. Frank Williams: I guess we're supposed to discuss um the prod the process of the project and how satisfied oh, oh it's alright. Uh. Robert Leslie: It's alright yeah? Frank Williams: Yeah. Um Did you feel there was a lot of room for creativity in the sort of Thomas Ebinger: Sure. Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: I did. Robert Leslie: Yeah. Frank Williams: I mean fruit and squishiness. How c more creative Thomas Ebinger: Sponginess. Frank Williams: can you get? David Rodriguez: The prototype making was very creatively stimulating and I think we've come up with a product that's fun and meets all the criteria. Frank Williams: And how was our leadership and teamwork? Thomas Ebinger: I think it was good. We knew what we were doing. It was a very democratic process and everyone got to contribute. Frank Williams: Well I thought my leadership was crap personally. Excuse Robert Leslie, Thomas Ebinger: Well Frank Williams: am Thomas Ebinger: you Frank Williams: I allowed Thomas Ebinger: told Frank Williams: to Thomas Ebinger: us Frank Williams: say Thomas Ebinger: when Frank Williams: that? Thomas Ebinger: to start and when to end, and that's all Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: that matters. Frank Williams: Um. David Rodriguez: I think you were fine. You did Frank Williams: Yeah, David Rodriguez: a good job leading. Frank Williams: well I'm never gonna do a management position, I know that now. Um yeah, I thought we all worked very Robert Leslie: Yeah Frank Williams: well Robert Leslie: we didn't Frank Williams: together. Robert Leslie: we uh it all c sort of blended Frank Williams: Yeah. Robert Leslie: quite David Rodriguez: Yeah Robert Leslie: well. David Rodriguez: I think it more than anything we didn't really have our set roles so much, as we just would be like Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: I don't know, all had ideas Frank Williams: Very democratic. David Rodriguez: about it but yeah. Frank Williams: No spats, that was good. David Rodriguez: No. Frank Williams: Um and the means for like the materials we used, how convenient were they? Like the the pens, the whiteboard, I mean Thomas Ebinger: Well I'm not Frank Williams: we Thomas Ebinger: a Frank Williams: used Thomas Ebinger: big fan of any Microsoft, PowerPoint or any Frank Williams: Are you Thomas Ebinger: of Frank Williams: a Thomas Ebinger: this Frank Williams: Mac Thomas Ebinger: stuff. Frank Williams: person? Thomas Ebinger: No no I never touch Macs either. I just use the Unix or the off market, sort of WordPerfect and all these other things. Frank Williams: Huh. David Rodriguez: Hmm. Robert Leslie: Which isn't very user-friendly Thomas Ebinger: Yeah. Robert Leslie: though. Thomas Ebinger: Well the problem is if you don't like my new computer never has WordPerfect so I have to go track someone down who has an old disk and then I have to reinstall it. So I have all these documents I can't use now. But yeah I mean I guess it's okay. David Rodriguez: I felt like my I dunno if it was just my role, but l but uh I di I thought that my the information that was available to Robert Leslie was kind of just like or maybe it was just the idea that we had. But there's kinda it was kinda like okay, I don't really think I dunno what I'm doing here. Frank Williams: Mm. David Rodriguez: So I didn't really think it was helpful. So I kind of just made up my own stuff and I Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: didn't really like the PowerPoint presentations, so I kind of wrote a lot of notes instead. But Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: yeah I d I don't really like PowerPoint personally, think it's kinda Thomas Ebinger: Yeah. David Rodriguez: stupid. Thomas Ebinger: I never use it. David Rodriguez: Yeah but uh Frank Williams: I can't say I found everything particularly helpful. David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: Like David Rodriguez: It didn't Frank Williams: I David Rodriguez: really Thomas Ebinger: Yeah. David Rodriguez: yeah. Frank Williams: It Robert Leslie: I Thomas Ebinger: My first Robert Leslie: though it Thomas Ebinger: bit Robert Leslie: was Thomas Ebinger: of information Robert Leslie: brilliant Thomas Ebinger: was Robert Leslie: no? Thomas Ebinger: like Frank Williams: Really? Thomas Ebinger: this child's drawn picture of how a remote works. Robert Leslie: No mine was really helpful as in my stuff was quite helpful I think. David Rodriguez: So Frank Williams: I David Rodriguez: like Robert Leslie: I Frank Williams: mean David Rodriguez: a f Robert Leslie: think it Frank Williams: m my Robert Leslie: depends Frank Williams: problem Robert Leslie: on the role no? David Rodriguez: Yeah Frank Williams: yeah, David Rodriguez: I Thomas Ebinger: Yeah David Rodriguez: think so. Thomas Ebinger: it probably does. Frank Williams: yeah. 'Cause my problem was, you guys had access to like they'd put send you to sites and stuff right? Thomas Ebinger: Yeah. Frank Williams: See I couldn't do that, so I didn't really know what you guys were doing. And when you were talking about it I was just like you know that's wh that's why I seemed so ignorant when when you were j explaining things, 'cause I Thomas Ebinger: Yeah well mine was mostly made up except when they told Robert Leslie like you know titanium costs more than Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: wood to make a remote control. Robert Leslie: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: you'd Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: wanted to. Robert Leslie: But it must have been quite difficult for them to build a whole um Frank Williams: System. Robert Leslie: a whole system, Frank Williams: Yeah. Robert Leslie: 'cause of course they can't give you uh uh anything comparable to the internet for David Rodriguez: Yeah Robert Leslie: the David Rodriguez: I mean, Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: Well I think David Rodriguez: it Thomas Ebinger: it's interesting how it all went together, like I had the stuff about how Robert Leslie how rubber's cheap, and you have how Robert Leslie: Yeah, Thomas Ebinger: people Robert Leslie: yeah. Thomas Ebinger: want it to be spongy, and Frank Williams: Yeah, huh. Thomas Ebinger: It seems planned you know. Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: Yeah I kinda thought that um I felt like I would go and like try to use my information, stupid little presentation and then like I just would end up talking about something completely unrelated because I dunno Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: I felt like I was off-task all the time. But um Frank Williams: Well I mean we really got into talking about like personal practicalit like it wasn't necessarily what was like we would never have thought of fruit or sponginess Robert Leslie: No. Frank Williams: you know? David Rodriguez: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: Yeah. Frank Williams: So Thomas Ebinger: If Frank Williams: it's Thomas Ebinger: I hadn't been told that fruit was Robert Leslie: But I think that it it might be to see whether people actually all come up with the same Frank Williams: Oh Robert Leslie: thing. Frank Williams: right. given certain information or Robert Leslie: Yeah, Frank Williams: Just Robert Leslie: like Frank Williams: yeah. Robert Leslie: if everyone's given the same input I don't have a clue, Frank Williams: Mm, Robert Leslie: anyway. Um Frank Williams: mm. Robert Leslie: what's next? Looks like oh no that's not um It's Frank Williams: What Robert Leslie: quite Frank Williams: do you guys think of the pens? It asks Thomas Ebinger: They're Frank Williams: about Thomas Ebinger: pretty Frank Williams: that. Thomas Ebinger: cool. Frank Williams: Mm. Thomas Ebinger: They're David Rodriguez: I Thomas Ebinger: kinda David Rodriguez: wanna s Thomas Ebinger: hard to write with though. Frank Williams: Yeah Robert Leslie: Yeah. Frank Williams: and I I've f forgotten once or twice to check the box. David Rodriguez: I I'd like to see what what it looks like on the Thomas Ebinger: They're nicer than the pen that I'm using, because like your stuff actually shows up here, rather than having to look at the screen and write. Frank Williams: Mm. Thomas Ebinger: But even so, I dunno. Frank Williams: And new ideas found? Robert Leslie: Yeah it's all very new, Frank Williams: Yeah. Robert Leslie: no? It's all very new. David Rodriguez: Yeah I think I'd like to um I dunno. Like Robert Leslie: Sorry. David Rodriguez: it was the I think the microphones are okay when you're sitting down, but like they're kinda clumsy I guess Thomas Ebinger: Oh David Rodriguez: when Thomas Ebinger: yeah. David Rodriguez: you're like when you're s going up to the whiteboard like. Thomas Ebinger: Well they drop off if you like move too much. David Rodriguez: Yeah I dunno. But they're Thomas Ebinger: But I don't David Rodriguez: they're Thomas Ebinger: think David Rodriguez: okay. Thomas Ebinger: we're supposed to be testing these microphones. Maybe we are. I don't Frank Williams: Mm. Thomas Ebinger: know. David Rodriguez: Uh I think, and I think that uh all this technology like I guess some people must be interested in using it but I can't imagine finding it any more useful than like looking at someone's Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: notes, Thomas Ebinger: Well David Rodriguez: or Thomas Ebinger: the David Rodriguez: like Thomas Ebinger: thing is, David Rodriguez: I Thomas Ebinger: like David Rodriguez: dunno. Thomas Ebinger: I actually worked in a company, and I had a role and I had to go to meetings. And like the last thing I would have wanted would be to have to watch a video 'cause I missed a meeting. Like usually I missed meetings deliberately. There's just there's really not that much information that actually goes through a real meeting, Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: like when you're actually at a real meeting in a real company. David Rodriguez: Hm. Thomas Ebinger: It's mostly like rehashing old stuff. And you're sort of going over general stuff that Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: anybody who's sort of on task should already know. It's like the there's just really not a lot of information Frank Williams: Seems Thomas Ebinger: that goes Frank Williams: kind Thomas Ebinger: through. Frank Williams: of like an excessive Thomas Ebinger: It Frank Williams: reiteration. Thomas Ebinger: seems like way overkill. Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: Like if I missed a meeting I could probably get it summed up in like one sentence. Frank Williams: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: I wouldn't need to have to watch like a t two hour video with the sound and the transcript and Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: I guess it would be it's gotta be worth it to I 'cause I'm just mostly curious about like what kind of person or like company would would really find it useful, 'cause can't really imagine, dunno. How about a p a? Um I dunno. Frank Williams: Well does anyone wanna talk about fruit more while we still have time? Any other Robert Leslie: What Frank Williams: ideas Robert Leslie: what's Frank Williams: for Robert Leslie: the end? Are we are we supposed to um you supposed to write a report? Or we ending? Frank Williams: Um Robert Leslie: Is that the end? Frank Williams: we still have time if there's any other input. I mean the I think we did really well personally, which is why we've you know, gone through this so quickly. 'Cause I mean we've all we all kind of agreed our product is satisfactory, it fits the budget, and it's trendy. David Rodriguez: Yeah. Frank Williams: So. Um. Robert Leslie: End of meeting. You have to tell her, she Frank Williams: So I think that's all for today. Robert Leslie: Okay we have to fill in all this stuff. Stuff stuff David Rodriguez: M Robert Leslie: stuff. David Rodriguez: meeting adjourned. Frank Williams: Meeting adjourned. Robert Leslie: Yeah. Thomas Ebinger: I think I've learned not to bring play-dough to meetings. Frank Williams: Yeah. David Rodriguez: I think it would be a good idea, I like it. Thomas Ebinger: It's hard enough to get people actually paying attention. Especially if you have food. Frank Williams: So I guess we're supposed to write final reports. 'Cause Thomas Ebinger: All of us? Frank Williams: I don't know. Robert Leslie: Well there's al eight, Frank Williams: Hmm. Robert Leslie: nine. Ooh. Oh ooh. Frank Williams: Hmm. Or is that just Robert Leslie?

Frank Williams reviewed the minutes from the last meeting. David Rodriguez and Thomas Ebinger presented the prototype and displayed the changeable fruit- and vegetable-shaped covers. They discussed the locator function that will be designed at a later time. Frank Williams discussed the final production cost for the device, which totaled 11.9 Euros. Robert Leslie led an evaluation of the prototype. Each participant rated the prototype according to the original criteria for the project. The group discussed the areas in which the prototype did not meet these goals. The group felt that the changeable fruit and vegetable shapes were uncomfortable to hold. The group decided to make changeable covers in fruit colors and designs and to use one uniform shape. The group discussed their experience on the project. They felt they worked well together and were creative. They complained that the meeting-room materials were difficult to use, and some complained that there was not enough information provided to them. Frank Williams instructed all participants to write a final report at the end of the meeting.

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Fred Williamson: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations. Robert Scarborough: We have a I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um. Tony Chew: Yeah. Donald Robinson: Yeah, I've got Fred Williamson: I Donald Robinson: one Fred Williamson: see, Donald Robinson: too. Fred Williamson: right. That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um W I I got um or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time Robert Scarborough: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: and in Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. So in Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm Fred Williamson: fact it actually f we won't be forestalled in a sense. Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that? Robert Scarborough: Uh we didn't, no. Tony Chew: No. Fred Williamson: Right Robert Scarborough: I d I didn't Fred Williamson: and Robert Scarborough: personally. Fred Williamson: the corporate Donald Robinson: Hmm. Fred Williamson: image was the uh final thing. So I I got that in email form. Um. Right okay. So I guess if we go ahead with the uh with the three presentations. So we'll start with yourself Robert Scarborough: Okay Fred Williamson: on Robert Scarborough: that's Fred Williamson: the Robert Scarborough: fine. Fred Williamson: basis that uh Robert Scarborough: I'll just um I'll grab the wire out the back of this one. Fred Williamson: Sorry, yep. Fred Williamson: Oh. Tony Chew: What is it Robert Scarborough: I'm not quite Tony Chew: I think Robert Scarborough: sure Tony Chew: you've got Robert Scarborough: how Tony Chew: to do Robert Scarborough: it Tony Chew: um control F_ eight. Robert Scarborough: Control Doesn't seem to be quite working at the moment. Tony Chew: Shift F_ eight. Robert Scarborough: Alt function F_ eight. Again not doing anything. Donald Robinson: There's usually a little thing in the top right for the Oh Robert Scarborough: Oh. Tony Chew: Ah Donald Robinson: hang Tony Chew: there, Donald Robinson: on, it's just Tony Chew: it's doing Donald Robinson: coming Tony Chew: something. Donald Robinson: on. Robert Scarborough: pressed about five times now. Robert Scarborough: Okay, that's Donald Robinson. Robert Scarborough: Okay, um I have to go again. Fred Williamson: it going? Robert Scarborough: Hopefully that should be it this time. Robert Scarborough: Okay, I think we're there. That's good. Okay, um Okay I'm gonna be looking at the working design. Um of the of the remote control. Um I've just got three sections, first is the research I made on the on the remote control itself um. And then that involves the components required in it and the systems uh design of the actual the actual remote. Um so having researched the existing models within the market, um I found my research off the internet. Um I've established what the components required for the remote control to function, actually are. And then also the methods in which these components interact together for the remote to actually do what you want it to do and how it connects with the television. Um the basic components are an energy source which I guess um in most existing models would be a battery supply. Whether that'll be sort of two batteries, four batteries, um it may vary. We then have Fred Williamson: Okay. Robert Scarborough: the user interface, which is basically the like the the buttons on the actual remote. Um the various functions used for changing channel, uh channel up and down, volume, things like that. Um there's also a chip inside the remote which does all the computer type things. And then the sender, which um is usually, I've found, an infra-red device which sends a signal to the actual television. Um and the last part is receiver which is important in the system but is not actually part of the remote itself, because that's obviously found in the television. Um I'm gonna have to actually draw on the board because uh it was a little tricky on PowerPoint to get this working, so. I'll just go through there. S um um do we have a cloth to wipe this down with, or? Oh Tony Chew: I Robert Scarborough: I'll Tony Chew: think Fred Williamson: Uh Tony Chew: it's Robert Scarborough: j Tony Chew: that Fred Williamson: there's Tony Chew: little Fred Williamson: the rubber on the right, Robert Scarborough: Oh I see. Fred Williamson: I think. Robert Scarborough: Oh okay. I'll get rid Fred Williamson: it's Robert Scarborough: of Fred Williamson: magic. Robert Scarborough: the bear Okay that's great. Okay, so we start off with a um battery suppl Uh no, a power supply which we'd probably get it's probably gonna be the battery. Um we then have a particular button, which may be that's obviously there's lots and lots of different buttons. Um but this is how the basic system works. Um that sends after you press that that sends the message to the chip, which um then sends It sort of interprets which button you've pressed and then sends the appropriate message to the sender. Robert Scarborough: Um. So that's. That's the remote in itself, that's the components of the remote and how they work together. So this is the uh user interface. Um this is the chip itself, which then, and that's the that's the infra-red sender. And then on the separate thing we have on the on the television we have a a receiver. And the sender sends a message to the receiver. 'Kay. Fred Williamson: So the the top bit's the power source, yes? Robert Scarborough: Ah yes, that's the power source. Um. going on to personal preferences, I've said that battery seems the best option for the actual remote, just because of the size. You don't want a a cable attached to the remote otherwise it's not it's not really a remote. Um and then the sender, and infra-red um has been used quite successfully. If the battery's on reasonable power, they always seem to work fairly well. You don't have to be point directly at the television itself. Fred Williamson: So the Robert Scarborough: Um Fred Williamson: battery is the in the sender. Robert Scarborough: Yes. 'Kay and that's it for the moment. Donald Robinson: Okay. Fred Williamson: Okay. So, now more design. Tony Chew: Right. Thank you. Mine's not quite as complicated as all that. Fred Williamson: That's what we like to hear. Tony Chew: Did I press function? Yeah. Fred Williamson: Is it control function Tony Chew: Oh. Fred Williamson: ei Oh, th Tony Chew: Um. Fred Williamson: there you Tony Chew: Okay Fred Williamson: go. Tony Chew: so I'm gonna talk a bit about the technical functions design. I'm Louisa, Tony Chew, as you know. Um so the m is to send signal the to the television set, so that a desired function is performed. Um an example of the function could be to change the volume up or down, uh so obviously you need two different buttons for that. Um to change the channel, either by pressing the number that you want or by channel up or down. Um to switch the television on or off, maybe a standby button. Um here are two example remotes. Um by the look of it they both have um kind of play and fast forward, rewind functions, so I think they incorporate a kind of video function which we won't have to worry about. Uh but as you can see, the left remote is quite um quite busy looking, quite complicated. Um whereas the right remote is much simpler, it looks much more user friendly. Um so my personal preference would be the right remote. So, it's got nice big buttons, it's got a very limited number of buttons. Um they're nice, kinda clearly labelled. Um I like the use of the kind of um symbols like the triangles and the squares and the arrows as well as the words on the um kind of play functions and all that. So it's very very user friendly, and it's got a little splash of colour. Could maybe do with some more colour. Um. Fred Williamson: Well there's a couple of things there. Um we have to remember that we have our own um logo and colour scheme. So basically we'd have to uh we'd have to be putting that on um the the product. Tony Chew: Hmm. Do we get to see that? Will you be presenting Fred Williamson: I haven't Tony Chew: that in a bit? Fred Williamson: as yet, no. But uh I got uh I got an email that basically said to uh make sure that uh whatever device we come up with at the end of the day had to incorporate um the corporate colour and slogan. So uh I'm guessing that uh uh I notice on the bottom there it's got uh what's that? A_P_O_G_E_E_ that might be the corporate colour scheme, although the only the only colour I can see in that is the red. Tony Chew: Hmm. Robert Scarborough: Would you be able to get rid of the the extra buttons here, the the sort of circular section, because that seems to be for a video as well. So we could dispense with that little bit as well and just get it down to just the numbers and the volume. Tony Chew: What Robert Scarborough: Possibly? Tony Chew: do you mean by the circular section? Like Robert Scarborough: J Tony Chew: all Robert Scarborough: yeah Tony Chew: of Robert Scarborough: yeah Tony Chew: that Robert Scarborough: yeah Tony Chew: bottom Robert Scarborough: j Tony Chew: bit? Robert Scarborough: yeah just this little bit is that I think that's still um a video Tony Chew: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: remote part, so maybe we could get rid of that as well. Tony Chew: Yeah. And I don't really Fred Williamson: Well Tony Chew: think that Fred Williamson: b uh Tony Chew: you need Fred Williamson: w Tony Chew: nine numbers. I mean how often do you use seven, eight and nine? I think just one to six and then channel up and down should be enough. Fred Williamson: Well Tony Chew: Like Fred Williamson: th Tony Chew: how Fred Williamson: the Tony Chew: often do Fred Williamson: on Tony Chew: you hit Fred Williamson: the Tony Chew: nine? Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: Well uh for for general television purposes obviously you have channels one to five at this point in time, and we'd have to have some room for uh future such channels. Robert Scarborough: It's Fred Williamson: But Robert Scarborough: just people are used to seeing Fred Williamson: but Robert Scarborough: that, so if we didn't have them then Fred Williamson: But, Robert Scarborough: they might think it's Fred Williamson: well possibly but the the other thing is that with um the current expansion of uh channels uh in the process of taking place, certainly the button up and down, but uh I mean how many channels do we have to um actual television channels do we have to uh prepare for? I would have thought that uh it's forever expanding and at the moment we've got although you've onl you've got the five standard, you've got the B_B_C_ have come up with a further six and uh there's uh Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: I don't know exactly how many channels there are on uh when you take into account uh Sky and various Robert Scarborough: Hmm. Fred Williamson: other um various others. So Tony Chew: Hmm. Fred Williamson: I would've thought that we wouldn't, you know, rather Okay, if the time of flicking from one to other, but presumably it'll take a second 'cause you have to be able to stop it. Maybe you could have a fast forward on the on the channels that w and then you could dispense with more otherwise. Y you'd want you'd want to get fairly quickly to the channel that you wanted. Tony Chew: Um some remotes have kind of favourite options where if you always flick from channel one to channel six, um if that's a favourite you just like by-pass Fred Williamson: Mm-hmm. Tony Chew: two to five. Fred Williamson: Yeah, I s I suppose in a sense you could have um if you've got a hundred channels then if you had sort of an easy way of getting rather than having to go one to a hundred, you could go one to one to ten, ten Tony Chew: Hmm. Fred Williamson: to twenty and then have a second button to get Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: you to the actual channel you want and that would cut down your time. Tony Chew: Mm. Um. Fred Williamson: Anyway. Tony Chew: But I think a lot of um like Cable and Sky and stuff, that would be tuned to one channel, and then you'd have another remote for all of those channels. Like Robert Scarborough: Okay, Tony Chew: to get to Robert Scarborough: yeah. Tony Chew: fifty five and the higher numbers Fred Williamson: Whatever. Tony Chew: Yeah. Fred Williamson: Okay. Okay. Limit the number of buttons, user friendly. Tony Chew: But I suppose nine's not really excessive. Robert Scarborough: I suppose Tony Chew: I Robert Scarborough: with Tony Chew: suppose Robert Scarborough: nine Tony Chew: it does Robert Scarborough: you've Tony Chew: make Robert Scarborough: got Tony Chew: a Robert Scarborough: the Tony Chew: good Robert Scarborough: the Tony Chew: pattern. Robert Scarborough: like the last one which makes the tenth means you uh it's like uh multiples you can put them together so you can make any number. So with that we'd kind of by-pass Fred Williamson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: any problems with Fred Williamson: Well that's true, yeah, you Robert Scarborough: Yeah. Fred Williamson: could get fifty by five and a zero or whatever, Robert Scarborough: Yeah. Fred Williamson: that that makes sense. Robert Scarborough: 'Cause that facilitates having all the numbers you could ever need. Fred Williamson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: Um. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: Does. Tony Chew: Okay. Fred Williamson: So w so what was the circular thing that you were Tony Chew: Um I think that's just for a video, so we wouldn't need any of that at all. Robert Scarborough: So we could get it Fred Williamson: If Robert Scarborough: down Fred Williamson: it's Robert Scarborough: to Fred Williamson: just Robert Scarborough: what? Fred Williamson: for T_V_, which is what it is at the moment. Tony Chew: Mm-hmm. Robert Scarborough: So we get to How many buttons have we got? We've just got ten, eleven twelve th I guess. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Robert Scarborough: Um which isn't really too many. That'll be quite easy to make a user guide for a fourteen Fred Williamson: Mm-hmm. Robert Scarborough: button remote. Fred Williamson: Well we've we've got um that it's remote for T_V_ only otherwise project would become too complex with uh which would endanger the time to market Robert Scarborough: 'Kay. Fred Williamson: was one of the considerations. I'm I don't know Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: d did you have that information behind the marketing, or was Donald Robinson: Um Fred Williamson: I meant to give you that information? Donald Robinson: I'm not sure. I had I've had some market information, but Fred Williamson: Right. Donald Robinson: not from the company, no. Fred Williamson: Right, okay, so basically time to market seems to be important, therefore Robert Scarborough: 'Kay. Fred Williamson: speed of delivery. We've only got about another four hours left. Tony Chew: Okay, so is everyone happy with that? Robert Scarborough: Ah yes yes, Donald Robinson: Okay. Robert Scarborough: that seems good. Tony Chew: Right well that's the end of my presentation. Donald Robinson: 'Kay. I'm gonna pull this off. Robert Scarborough: I think if you just give it a second to Fred Williamson: Yeah, Robert Scarborough: maybe Fred Williamson: I think Robert Scarborough: catch Fred Williamson: she said twenty Robert Scarborough: up. Fred Williamson: seconds to um Donald Robinson: Uh-huh. Okay. Robert Scarborough: I'm sure we'll have by the end of today. Donald Robinson: I'll give it another go. Donald Robinson: there. Right, we've done some research into the functional requirements that people want out of their remote control. And first off we should state that th the remote control's for controlling the T_V_ and um how do people use it? We asked them sort of which buttons were useful for them. Um how d how does a remote control look and feel for them, and what improvements would would they like to remote control. And we did that by sort of giving them a questionnaire that we'd prepared and asking them to fill in the answers. And three quarters of them found that remote controls are ugly and that a sort of even higher proportion would spend more for a sort of s uh a fancier remote control And that of all the buttons on the remote control, the sort of setting buttons for sort of the picture picture and brightness and the audio settings, um they weren't used very often at all. People concentrated on the channel buttons and the volume buttons and the power buttons. Uh we also asked them about speech recognition uh for remote control. And young people were quite receptive to this, but as soon as we got sort of over about into a thirty five to forty age forty five age group and older, people people weren't quite so keen on speech recognition. There's a lot more th there's a lot lot more older people who didn't know whether they wanted it or not as well. Um we also asked what frustrated people about remote controls and the number one frustration was that the remote was lost somewhere else in the room and that they couldn't find it. And the second second biggest frustration what that if they got a new remote control, it was difficult to learn um all the buttons and all the functions, and to find your way around it. Okay, so My personal preferences from the marketing is that we need to come up with some sort of sleek sort of good looking high high-tech A design which looks high-tech, basically. Um and that we should come up with fewer buttons than most of the controls on the market, and we should sort of concentrate on the channels and sort of power, and also volume and that sort of thing, as as Louisa said. Um we could maybe come up with a menu, a sort of a an L_C_D_ menu for other functions on the remote control. That's worth thinking about. Um and maybe we could think about speech recognition as well, because um sort of young people are perhaps the ones that are gonna buy buy our new product if we aim it at sort of you know sort of a high-tech design. That that might be the market that we're we're looking for. And we could maybe think about using speech recogniti recognition as a way to find the remote control if it's lost in a room, rather than sort of um having it to speech recognition to change the channels. 'Cause there's a problem with that in that the television makes noise, so it could end up talking to itself and changing its channel. Robert Scarborough: Mm. Donald Robinson: Okay um, and that's the end of the slide show. That's it. Cool. Tony Chew: Do Fred Williamson: What was Tony Chew: a Fred Williamson: that Tony Chew: lot Fred Williamson: last Tony Chew: of um Fred Williamson: wee bit there? Donald Robinson: Um about Fred Williamson: Speech Donald Robinson: speech Fred Williamson: recognition, Donald Robinson: recognition? Yeah. Fred Williamson: But that was only for young people that preferred it, older people didn't. Donald Robinson: Youn young people pref Yeah, they s they said that they'd be interested in a remote control which offered that possibility and as you go up through the age groups, people got less and less interested in sort of a a remote control that you could talk to, so. Robert Scarborough: No what I maybe think is um it seems the technology would be quite advanced for that and they might end up costing more than our twelve fifty budget for Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: Well that's Robert Scarborough: for Fred Williamson: right. Robert Scarborough: the speech Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: recognition. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: Um. And possibly the thing about the about the remote being lost we could have You know with your mobile phone, you lose that and you can ring it. Maybe we can have some kind of sensor which is kept somewhere where you can some kind of buzzer system between the two. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: So you can press a button which is always kept in one place and then it Donald Robinson: Uh-huh. Robert Scarborough: maybe buzzes to Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: somewhere else, wherever the remote actually is. Donald Robinson: Yeah, we'd have t that would mean we'd have to put two products together as well, which Robert Scarborough: That is true, yes. Donald Robinson: which again would probably be a bit expensive, Robert Scarborough: Hmm. Donald Robinson: but Tony Chew: There's key rings um that you kind of whistle at or clap at, I can't remember, Donald Robinson: Yeah. Tony Chew: and then they whistle back, or something like that. Fred Williamson: Sounds Donald Robinson: Yeah. Tony Chew: That'd Fred Williamson: reasonable. Tony Chew: probably be really simple, they're cheap. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: So I guess it'd be something we could Fred Williamson: So Robert Scarborough: like attach to the or like the same technology could be put inside the Fred Williamson: Well Robert Scarborough: inside Fred Williamson: if Robert Scarborough: the remote. Fred Williamson: you're trying to avoid having a second product 'cause obviously you could have a second product that gave you the right pitch which would set the remote off to say here I am sort of thing, you know without sound recognition. But if you I know. Um I was gonna say a sharp noise, you know a clapping of hand or whatever. You'd want to try and av just have the one product that Robert Scarborough: Yeah. Fred Williamson: if Robert Scarborough: Yeah if we if we Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Robert Scarborough: could have it in the actual remote like everything in one Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: one device. Fred Williamson: Yeah. Um I dunno um talking about vo I mean obviously if you've got voice recognition then you can do it in that way because it'll recognise the voice and you can give it a command, a set command whatever that happened to be. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: But you've then got the point if if you're not going with uh voice recognition then Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Robert Scarborough: you could have an option to turn it off. Or Perhaps, um. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: So that would solve the problems with the T_V_ kind of speaking to the remote and changing its own channels. Fred Williamson: Mm. So uh Any sugges Well, any conclusions? Donald Robinson: Um would it take quite a while to sort of develop the speech recognition software in the remote control? Robert Scarborough: Mm. Donald Robinson: Considering Fred Williamson: Well if it does then we can't. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: It's that simple, because we've got uh th th three um primary um uh requisites from uh from and email uh that was sent to Donald Robinson whereby we had The design logo was one, which we've already mentioned. We've got um the remote was only for the television and not for because that would make it too complex and we have to get it market quickly. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: And the uh third thing was that um teletext uh as far as uh the management is concerned, um is becoming dated uh due to the popularity of the internet. Donald Robinson: Okay. Fred Williamson: So Robert Scarborough: 'Kay. Fred Williamson: that means that uh so these are the sort of three um extra parameters that have been put on this uh project. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: So we're being focused effectively directly at a television and Robert Scarborough: Yes. Fred Williamson: it seems to Donald Robinson that the management is uh wanting us to go down a narrow path and not opening out. So anything that uh is to be added, such as voice recognition et cetera Robert Scarborough: Has to be simple Fred Williamson: has Robert Scarborough: enough to Fred Williamson: to be very simple and has to be very quick because time to market is is critical. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: S Robert Scarborough: I suppose if we could get something in which was quite quick and simple that would give us an advantage over the other remotes. Fred Williamson: It would. Robert Scarborough: Um. Fred Williamson: But probably quick and simple is primary rather than Robert Scarborough: 'Kay. Fred Williamson: added extras. Added extras would be nice, but the primary consideration is to get the project finished within uh this short time window, Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: which effectively now is sort of four hours. So and if and we've gotta get to the end. Uh d d I think I think first and foremost we've gotta get to the end and then get to the end with um added extras if possible. Robert Scarborough: Mm-hmm. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: Okay. Donald Robinson: So Fred Williamson: Right okay, uh so I need to Right. So I don't know how long we have left of our uh time. But we have to Donald Robinson: About Fred Williamson: make Donald Robinson: five Fred Williamson: the decisions Donald Robinson: minutes. Fred Williamson: on uh the remote control functions and how we were planning to proceed so that at the next uh meeting each person that's got a a a task to do is clear Robert Scarborough: Yes. Fred Williamson: from this meeting what that task is. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Robert Scarborough: Um. Fred Williamson: We'll also know w when the next meeting is I um so we'll know how long we've got to complete that task. And then we can report back at the next meeting and say right okay yes, we've achieved this or we haven't achieved this, this is how far we've progressed. Does Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: that make reasonable sense? Robert Scarborough: Yes that Tony Chew: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: seems Donald Robinson: Okay, Robert Scarborough: right. Donald Robinson: yeah. Fred Williamson: So we have to come effectively to the decision on the remote functions so that you can decide what you're gonna be doing. And if dur between the time of this meeting finishing and the next meeting starting, if you get any additional information that uh only you have at Robert Scarborough: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: that point in time you'd think would be relevant to other people in terms of their des decision making um process, then we should communicate that as quickly as possible Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: and not wait until the next meeting. Do it via Donald Robinson: Okay. Fred Williamson: the email Donald Robinson: Yep. Fred Williamson: so that rather than coming you know If you get the information just before the next meeting that's fine. Come along with it in the next meeting, we can discuss it then and Robert Scarborough: Okay. Fred Williamson: take whatever action is appropriate. But if you get it well before the next meeting, let everybody else know 'cause that might have an impact on their uh Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: on what they come up with effectively at the next meeting. Okay. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: Right, is there Donald Robinson: So do we need to decide on the functions now? S Fred Williamson: I would guess so. Tony Chew: Well I think it'd be really easy and it'd be a big advantage if we did have some sort of um kind of whistle back Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Tony Chew: kind of function. Donald Robinson: Yeah and Tony Chew: 'Cause that'll solve kind of the frustration of losing it. Donald Robinson: Yeah and that was that was the number one sort of frustration Fred Williamson: Yep. Donald Robinson: that people said, so. I don't think there's anything else on the market that does that, so. Tony Chew: Yeah. I don't really know about the voice recognition thing. Fred Williamson: I w well uh i Robert Scarborough: Maybe we should concentrate just on the whistle back function Fred Williamson: Something Robert Scarborough: at the moment, Fred Williamson: simple. Robert Scarborough: and if something Fred Williamson: Uh if Robert Scarborough: comes Fred Williamson: if Robert Scarborough: back Fred Williamson: our primary consideration is to get it there in time, time's short, you want something to meet the major concerns of the consumer Tony Chew: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: so that we can have Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: that as a selling point for the product, something that's quick and simple. Tony Chew: Yeah. Fred Williamson: So, Tony Chew: And that Fred Williamson: sounds Tony Chew: wouldn't put Fred Williamson: good. Tony Chew: off the kind of older generation either, 'cause everyone can whistle or clap, and they wouldn't have to be kind of scared of this new technology. Fred Williamson: Well, so maybe Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: a clap rather than a whistle would be On the basis that if we've got if we're catering to the whole age range, you want something that's easy to do, now something that doesn't Donald Robinson: No Fred Williamson: like Donald Robinson: not Fred Williamson: whis Donald Robinson: everyone Fred Williamson: uh Donald Robinson: can whistle, can Fred Williamson: Well Donald Robinson: they, though? Fred Williamson: I I I don't know. Well If you think that more people can whistle than clap then that's fine, then go for that option, but if I would Donald Robinson: No, Fred Williamson: have Donald Robinson: clapping, Robert Scarborough: I'd Fred Williamson: thought Robert Scarborough: go Fred Williamson: that Robert Scarborough: more Fred Williamson: more people Donald Robinson: I Robert Scarborough: Yeah, Donald Robinson: think clapping, Robert Scarborough: f more Fred Williamson: could Robert Scarborough: for Donald Robinson: yeah. Robert Scarborough: clap. Fred Williamson: clap rather than whistle, Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: so uh so clap option. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: Okay. Tony Chew: 'Kay we've already decided that we don't need a teletext button, haven't we? Fred Williamson: Uh. Tony Chew: Is that one Fred Williamson: Ef Tony Chew: of Fred Williamson: effectively Tony Chew: the Fred Williamson: that's what the that's what they're saying, that uh Tony Chew: Hmm. Fred Williamson: if uh if people are now using the internet then you don't need teletext, so Donald Robinson: Taking out teletext, Fred Williamson: so Donald Robinson: okay. Fred Williamson: take out teletext. Robert Scarborough: Did we decide Tony Chew: Right. Robert Scarborough: on having the ten um the ten numbers and then the Tony Chew: Yeah, I think so, Robert Scarborough: the Tony Chew: so Robert Scarborough: little Tony Chew: zero Robert Scarborough: digit Tony Chew: to Robert Scarborough: next Tony Chew: nine. Robert Scarborough: to it which kind of Donald Robinson: Mm. Robert Scarborough: enabled you to put them together. Donald Robinson: I think nowadays you can just get ones where it gives you a sort of a second or two to press another number, Fred Williamson: Yeah. Donald Robinson: so you can press any two and it'll sort of put them together. Robert Scarborough: Okay, ten numbers and then some kind of device to allow uh Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: I'll put delay to allow um Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: multiple numbers. Or multiple digits. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: Did we decide anything about um the other functions? As in setting the audio and tuning it and stuff like that? You had an had an idea about the menu? Donald Robinson: Uh we could possibly put an L_ a sort of a L_C_D_ menu in, but that again is probably an expense that Robert Scarborough: But just thinking um people probably I mean you don't have you only have to probably tune in the T_V_ once, but you have to be able to tune it that once. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: So and if finally the T_V_ breaks, you get a new one, you're gonna have to be able to tune it. You can't really avoid Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Robert Scarborough: that. Tony Chew: Hmm. Fred Williamson: No. Robert Scarborough: Except the new digital markets which do it by themselves. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: So that'll Fred Williamson: But Robert Scarborough: be in Fred Williamson: the but that's relying on the television market changing Robert Scarborough: Yes. Fred Williamson: to an automatic and if it is at the moment, that's fine. But at the moment it's not, so it seems to Donald Robinson that you have to have a device that caters, 'cause Robert Scarborough: Yeah. Fred Williamson: otherwise it would make it uh your device would become inoperable, Robert Scarborough: Yeah. Fred Williamson: or only operable in certain circumstances Robert Scarborough: Yeah Fred Williamson: and Robert Scarborough: yeah. Tony Chew: Mm. Fred Williamson: the idea is to have an international market which is Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: And it's also m it's the the product we've got is something that's at the I would have said the lower end of the s of the cost scale, so Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: we're not really going for something that's uh Donald Robinson: I s I suppose Fred Williamson: terribly Donald Robinson: um Fred Williamson: high-tech. Donald Robinson: if people are buying remotes, then they're probably buying it to replace another remote Fred Williamson: Possibly. Donald Robinson: 'cause all most tellies come with remotes, so. I Fred Williamson: That's right. Donald Robinson: mean we're maybe talking about replacing remotes for slightly older televisions, so we maybe need to keep the the tuning function in. Robert Scarborough: Yeah. Tony Chew: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: So how would this menu function work? Would you maybe have like one menu button, then you'd use the other buttons, maybe the number buttons to actually do the separate functions. Donald Robinson: Yeah, Tony Chew: Yeah, Donald Robinson: that would be Tony Chew: like Donald Robinson: a good Tony Chew: the volume Donald Robinson: idea, Tony Chew: or something. Donald Robinson: yeah. Robert Scarborough: Okay. Tony Chew: Yeah, 'cause you do need um kind of brightness and contrast and everything as well. My dad Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Tony Chew: was watching a film the other week and it was too dark, so I had to go through it and turn the brightness up. Robert Scarborough: we're Donald Robinson: Hmm. Robert Scarborough: gonna have the the individual numbers and then a menu function and maybe sort of a slightly more advanced um instruction booklet to come with it, to guide Presu uh I think it'd be quite hard just for people to grasp um just off like the menu use different buttons you maybe have to have like some better instructions of how Donald Robinson: Uh Robert Scarborough: that would actually work. Donald Robinson: I'm not sure whether the sort of having people have a booklet 'cause one the second most annoying thing that people found was having to learn the new one. Robert Scarborough: Right, okay Donald Robinson: So Robert Scarborough: um. Donald Robinson: maybe next to each of the buttons, you know each of them could have a number and then also a function written next to it, so you're basically pressing Robert Scarborough: that also goes back to the original design when we saw those two, and there was the one on the left hand side which had all like the double functions and stuff which kind of looked too busy and had Donald Robinson: Right. Robert Scarborough: too much on it, so. Donald Robinson: Okay. Tony Chew: Well, Fred Williamson: Okay, Tony Chew: if we're Fred Williamson: well. Tony Chew: trying to keep it slee sleek and sexy as well, have you seen those Fred Williamson: Mm. Tony Chew: remotes where kind of um the bottom bit slides down, so there's Donald Robinson: Yeah. Tony Chew: kind of um everything Fred Williamson: So y Tony Chew: else revealed? So you don't Fred Williamson: Ah Tony Chew: use it that much, you don't have to see it all the time. Fred Williamson: That's a very Tony Chew: But Fred Williamson: good Tony Chew: it's Fred Williamson: idea. Tony Chew: all there Robert Scarborough: That Tony Chew: if you Robert Scarborough: is Tony Chew: need Donald Robinson: Yeah, Robert Scarborough: that is Tony Chew: it. Robert Scarborough: a good idea actually. Donald Robinson: yeah. Robert Scarborough: Sor sort of a second. Fred Williamson: So you keep um Tony Chew: Like a hidden panel. Fred Williamson: Right we've got five minutes before we wind up this meeting, so I've been told. Robert Scarborough: Okay. Fred Williamson: I don't know if you've got the same. Robert Scarborough: Uh not quite, but Fred Williamson: Okay. Robert Scarborough: I guess. Fred Williamson: So so keep um Robert Scarborough: Keep the other buttons but hide them away. Fred Williamson: keep detailed functions um hidden at the back. Tony Chew: Hmm. And that'll be better for the older generation as well 'cause, well my dad doesn't like Fred Williamson: Ah. Tony Chew: anything that you've got to kinda flick through a menu, Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Tony Chew: but he can pretty much read a button Fred Williamson: Mm-hmm. Robert Scarborough: So Donald Robinson: Yeah. Tony Chew: if it's displayed properly. Robert Scarborough: So um we're gonna have to have to work out what's gonna be on these other functions as as well. So we're Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: gonna have like two separate Fred Williamson: That's right. Robert Scarborough: two separate lists, I guess. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: data functions hidden at back. Donald Robinson: So th the Fred Williamson: Can bring out when needed. Donald Robinson: The detailed ones would be sort of brightness, Tony Chew: Yeah. Donald Robinson: uh sorta Fred Williamson: That's right so we're dis So you've got which ones are gonna be on the front and which ones are gonna be on the back. Robert Scarborough: So Fred Williamson: We Robert Scarborough: sh Fred Williamson: have to decide. Robert Scarborough: Should we decide Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Robert Scarborough: in the next couple of minutes, and then Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: I guess so. Robert Scarborough: So on the Fred Williamson: So on front, Robert Scarborough: about the number. Fred Williamson: numbers, Robert Scarborough: Um Tony Chew: And the volume? Robert Scarborough: the volume up and down. Fred Williamson: volume. Robert Scarborough: Shall Tony Chew: Um. Robert Scarborough: we have a mute button as well? Fred Williamson: Sorry? Robert Scarborough: A mute button as well. Tony Chew: Yeah. Fred Williamson: Mm. Robert Scarborough: Yeah. Tony Chew: Yeah Robert Scarborough: Or Tony Chew: I think they're handy. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. And probably a power one as well. Dunno. Tony Chew: Have you seen the adverts? Like if you Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Tony Chew: boil the kettle that's full that's a waste. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: Mm-hmm. Tony Chew: If you leave your telly on standby it powers Blackpool for a certain amount of time. Like we should maybe try to discourage people from standby. Robert Scarborough: But then they might not buy it if they haven't got one. 'Cause Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: people might Tony Chew: Yeah, Robert Scarborough: just Tony Chew: it's Robert Scarborough: be too Tony Chew: maybe Robert Scarborough: fickle Tony Chew: too much Robert Scarborough: and Tony Chew: of Robert Scarborough: not Tony Chew: a big Robert Scarborough: want to Tony Chew: issue Robert Scarborough: change. Tony Chew: for here. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: We can send out a flier with the device Fred Williamson: So Robert Scarborough: saying that you shouldn't Fred Williamson: so are Robert Scarborough: leave Tony Chew: Uh-oh Fred Williamson: you having Robert Scarborough: it on Tony Chew: danger Robert Scarborough: stand-by. Fred Williamson: the stand-by Tony Chew: sign. Fred Williamson: on the front, then? Robert Scarborough: I think you probably should. Tony Chew: Yeah, but a little bit smaller. Compromise. Fred Williamson: Well. Donald Robinson: Okay. Robert Scarborough: Um are we gonna have the channel up and down as well as the number buttons? Donald Robinson: Um 'cause yeah the market research said there is quite a lot of people do just zap around Robert Scarborough: Okay, Donald Robinson: and flick, Robert Scarborough: so we'll Donald Robinson: so. Robert Scarborough: have um Tony Chew: Right. Robert Scarborough: So we've got ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen there? Donald Robinson: Um. Fred Williamson: Channel up and down. What else have we got? What was that, sixteen? Donald Robinson: Numbers is ten, volume is twelve, th Fred Williamson: Volume button. Donald Robinson: Yeah Fred Williamson: How many Donald Robinson: si Fred Williamson: volumes? Donald Robinson: One up, one down. Fred Williamson: Right okay. Tony Chew: On mute. Donald Robinson: And a mute, yeah. That's sixteen isn't it, yeah. Robert Scarborough: Is there anything else? Um. Donald Robinson: I don't think so, no. Fred Williamson: Power button, stand-by, channel, up and down. So is that it? Tony Chew: so. Fred Williamson: Okay. That's sixteen buttons, you reckon. And then at the back? Donald Robinson: You've got brightness and contrast. Robert Scarborough: Maybe Tony Chew: And then Robert Scarborough: if we're gonna run out of time, one of us should come up with a list of these and then get back at the next meeting just at the start and say what they're gonna be. Fred Williamson: Okay. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: So Tony Chew: Mm-hmm. Fred Williamson: on the back it'll have brightness, contrast, anything else? Tony Chew: Uh Fred Williamson: You're Tony Chew: there's Fred Williamson: also Tony Chew: audio Fred Williamson: gonna have Tony Chew: functions. Fred Williamson: the channel tuner, as it were. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: So tuner up and down, I guess. Tony Chew: Yeah. Fred Williamson: Tuner, would that have up and down? Robert Scarborough: Um up Tony Chew: I think they normally Robert Scarborough: Tune one Tony Chew: do. Robert Scarborough: way, tune Fred Williamson: okay. Robert Scarborough: the o I I dunno I Donald Robinson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: dunno possibly. Tony Chew: Yeah. Fred Williamson: Okay. Donald Robinson: And then maybe sort of an enter button for sort of s you know, saying that you want that particular thing tuned in. So you go up and down and then it pick Robert Scarborough: Oh yeah Donald Robinson: it Robert Scarborough: and Donald Robinson: finds Robert Scarborough: th and a Donald Robinson: something Robert Scarborough: enter Donald Robinson: and Robert Scarborough: button Donald Robinson: then you Robert Scarborough: just Donald Robinson: wanna Robert Scarborough: to Donald Robinson: press Robert Scarborough: select. Yeah, Donald Robinson: enter Robert Scarborough: okay. Donald Robinson: to select it, yeah. Robert Scarborough: Um I guess we're keeping s it simple. We don't really need any other audio funct uh functions because it's just volume up, volume Fred Williamson: Um Robert Scarborough: down. Fred Williamson: up volume, yeah, I would have thought so. Robert Scarborough: Um. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Tony Chew: So I think um there's quite a lot of like Dolby surround studio, surround sort of things. Donald Robinson: Yeah. Fred Williamson: Okay. Robert Scarborough: Do Tony Chew: Um Robert Scarborough: they have their Tony Chew: maybe Robert Scarborough: own Tony Chew: for the younger market. Robert Scarborough: do they have their own controls on their actual products, then, or do you have to do it via the remote? Tony Chew: Um I think they've got their own controls in this kind of like hidden panel. Robert Scarborough: Yeah I suppose if we've got their if they've got their own controls then we can avoid it for ours Fred Williamson: Yeah. Robert Scarborough: just to keep it simple. Fred Williamson: Yeah. Tony Chew: Oh no, I mean um like there's kind of individual buttons for them, Robert Scarborough: Oh, okay. Tony Chew: like on the T_V_ remote. Robert Scarborough: Right. Donald Robinson: Mm-hmm. Tony Chew: But I don't really know what they're for, I've never used them. Robert Scarborough: Um. Tony Chew: I just know they're something to do with Robert Scarborough: Maybe unless something Tony Chew: Dolby. Robert Scarborough: comes up then we should I Fred Williamson: Well Robert Scarborough: think Fred Williamson: you might get some research. Robert Scarborough: Well shall we look into that and just get back together. Fred Williamson: Okay. Donald Robinson: Okay. Tony Chew: Right. Fred Williamson: Right Donald Robinson: Right. Fred Williamson: so I'll do the minutes of uh this meeting. And we'll meet back at I'm not sure. Um forty minutes, I believe is the time. Robert Scarborough: 'Kay. Donald Robinson: Okay. Fred Williamson: Come on.

Fred Williamson gave the group new requirements on product features. Robert Scarborough gave a presentation on the working design of the device. He presented all the necessary internal components and how they operate together. He gave his preferences on energy sources and senders. Tony Chew presented the necessary functions of the remote, then compared the interfaces of two existing remotes. The group discussed making their remote more user-friendly; they proposed eliminating rarely-used buttons and making it easier to skip through channels. Donald Robinson discussed user requirements with the group and showed that users wanted a fancier, less complicated remote that would not be easily lost. He suggested incorporating a menu and an LCD screen to satisfy these requirements. The group discussed how to incorporate a locator function. Fred Williamson reminded the group to limit the number of complicated features due to the project's time constraints. The group had a discussion to decide on product features. They decided to include a clapping locator function and a device that allows the user to enter two numbers separately to get a two-digit number. Complicated functions will be hidden in a back panel.

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Gregory Powell: Alright, that did nothing. Okay. Welcome to the meeting everyone. Just gonna attempt to make this into a slide show. Gregory Powell: Sorry guys. Murray Hodge: You may have to do the function F_ thing. Gregory Powell: I did. Murray Hodge: Oh, okay. Gregory Powell: Twice. This'll just take a Kenneth Clark: Okay okay Gregory Powell: moment. Or it won't. Gregory Powell: Okay we'll have to deal with it like Kenneth Clark: Okay. Gregory Powell: this then. Alright. Um. This is the first meeting uh for developing our, our new product. I'm Heather, I'm your Project Manager. Kenneth Clark: Hello. Gregory Powell: Okay. So um. So that was the opening. The first thing we'll do is get acquainted with one another. If everyone could go around and explain their role and um, and their name. Kenneth Clark: My name's Poppy. I'm Kenneth Clark for this project. Um, I'm going to be responsible for the functional design phase. Also the conceptual design and the detailed design for the final product. Gregory Powell: Nice to meet you Poppy. Kenneth Clark: Okay. Charles Davila: My name's Tara and the Interface Designer. I will also be responsible for the functional design phase, the conceptual design phase and the detailed design phase of the user interface design. Gregory Powell: Alright. Murray Hodge: Hi, I'm Genevieve. I'm Murray Hodge. I'm an expert at marketing. Um, I'll be telling you guys about the user requirement specifications for our new product. Um, I'll be doing some trend-watching in the conceptual design, and product evaluation for the design phase. Gregory Powell: Alright I'm Heather and I've I said I'm your Project Manager, um Well you can pretty much read what it is that I'm doing. But um um Yeah. And uh tool training is one thing that we're going to be doing today, um um as well as planning the project, how we're going to, uh, create this product, and, um, discuss, um, our aims and objects of this, uh Which brings us to our next subject, is, um, um, as a team we're going to be designing and creating a new kind of remote control. Um, we want this to be a marketable product that can be trendy, um, a completely new style, so that, um, can really appeal to a, to a generation that doesn't want a simple plain kind of, uh, channel-changer. And, um, it needs to be user-friendly for, um, maybe, for an example, for people that, um, can't see the numbers as well, or, um, perhaps an ergonomic design. Kenneth Clark: Okay. So this is a television remote control? Gregory Powell: Yes, Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Gregory Powell: it's a television remote control. Right. I believe I should be taking minutes on this right now. So, alright. Kenneth Clark: Okay. Gregory Powell: Um, yeah. Um, the way that we're going to go about this is, um, we'll have a time where we can, um come up with new ideas alone, and, and work on the project and then, um, after we've brainstormed and, and thought about, we can come together in a meeting and, and discuss what, what um, what kind of functional design we want to use. Same with conceptual design and detailed design. So, um, making sure that it, it's usable, that as a, um and that it's, it's feasible to create, and uh, to come up with a concept of it want, what we want it to look like. Um, tool training. Is, is everyone, um Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Gregory Powell: Okay. Kenneth Clark: Got Murray Hodge: Yeah. Kenneth Clark: those notes. Murray Hodge: Thank you. Gregory Powell: Great. Great. Um One thing that, uh, we're going to do is become more acquainted with the, the tools that we have access to for our project. Um, one of them is our whiteboard. And, um, as a sort of team-building moment, um, I, I'd like us to, um, try out the whiteboard by expressing our favourite animal and the charac characteristics of that animal. Um, why that, why that should be your favourite animal. So, um, I, I'm assuming that we should do that now. Kenneth Clark: Okay. Gregory Powell: 'Kay. With our microphones still attached to our bodies. Kenneth Clark: Okay. Charles Davila: Gosh. Gregory Powell: Okay. Gregory Powell: 'Kay, what's my favourite animal? Do come up. Kenneth Clark: Oh, to go first. Oh, are we all doing Gregory Powell: This is Kenneth Clark: it Gregory Powell: a Kenneth Clark: individually? Gregory Powell: team-building time where, Kenneth Clark: Okay, Gregory Powell: um, Kenneth Clark: stand up and support you Gregory Powell: okay cool, um Charles Davila: Yeah. Gregory Powell: My favourite animal, which changes all the time, okay, right now it is an elk. Charles Davila: An Kenneth Clark: Okay. Charles Davila: elk? Gregory Powell: alright, Charles Davila: A vicious Gregory Powell: so And it goes like Yeah it's got like big antlers, yeah. Looks kinda like, like it has holly growing out of its head. Kenneth Clark: Do you have elk where you come from? Gregory Powell: Yes. Kenneth Clark: You do. Gregory Powell: Yeah Murray Hodge: We have moose too. Gregory Powell: we have moose Kenneth Clark: Okay. Gregory Powell: and we have deer. Do you have Charles Davila: We have sheep. Kenneth Clark: Sheep. Yeah, cows. Gregory Powell: 'Kay, um. Kenneth Clark: That's a great elk. Charles Davila: That is really good. Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Charles Davila: I'm quite Gregory Powell: Thanks. This is my Murray Hodge: Oh, very shapely. Gregory Powell: Okay. Kenneth Clark: Brilliant. Gregory Powell: That's a sketching of my my elk, and it, it is my favourite animal right now, 'cause it is a large beautiful majestic creature, that um, that um In a way it looks kind of awkward, because it's on spindly legs and it uh But it can really overcome harsh terrain, and although it's gorgeous it's also very dangerous, because it has um strong antlers, and uh it can really combat its enemies, even like it it's a it's an herbivore but, uh, it can really defend itself. Kenneth Clark: Mm. Very Gregory Powell: Yeah. Kenneth Clark: nice. Okay. Gregory Powell: Right. Gregory Powell: Right, I'm gonna take minutes while, um, you guys Kenneth Clark: Okay, Gregory Powell: express Kenneth Clark: I'll Gregory Powell: your Kenneth Clark: go Gregory Powell: favourite Kenneth Clark: next. Gregory Powell: animals. Kenneth Clark: I am a big animal lover. I like all sorts of animals, but for the moment I'm gonna draw a cat, in memory of my poor cat that died recently. Murray Hodge: Oh. Gregory Powell: Oh. Kenneth Clark: It's gonna be a bit of a strange drawing, but never mind. Kenneth Clark: Not as artistic as Heather's drawing. Bit more cartoon style. But I like cats because they're so independent, and they always seem to be doing what they want to be doing. Um, but that doesn't mean they're completely not sociable, 'cause they enjoy interacting with humans as well, and they seem to enjoy the good things like sunshine and, um, running around outside as well as being inside, and enjoying their food, and generally just, they just seemed so cool and they just know what they're doing. Uh I reckon they're sort of, they got it sorted. They know what they want. Basically, that's why I like cats. Charles Davila: Very Gregory Powell: Great. Charles Davila: good. Kenneth Clark: I'll rub that out. There you go. Charles Davila: Okay. but I'm not really sure how to draw one. Kenneth Clark: Ooh. Charles Davila: I, I've never drawn a dog, I don't think. I'm tempted to draw a snail 'cause I draw them sometimes and they're really easy to draw. Um, Gregory Powell: I forget her name. Charles Davila: right it's Murray Hodge: Tara Charles Davila: gonna be a really funny dog, Murray Hodge: or Tara. Charles Davila: 'cause I'm not sure how to draw a dog. Kenneth Clark: Well there are loads of different types of dogs, so I'm sure it'll represent one kind of dog. Charles Davila: It's a cartoon dog I think. A s I don't ev Oh, oh well. It's a scary cartoon dog. That This, that does not look like a dog. Gregory Powell: It Charles Davila: I'm Kenneth Clark: We Gregory Powell: looks Kenneth Clark: can pretend. Gregory Powell: kinda like a person. Charles Davila: sorry. Murray Hodge: That's Pinocchio. Charles Davila: How do you draw a dog? I suppose it has a lon Oh my god. Right. Yous know what it's supposed to be. It's a dog. Kenneth Clark: Okay. Charles Davila: Um, I like dogs because, um, they're so good to humans, like they can be trained to be police dogs and seeing-eye dogs, and they're just such friendly animals. And, like they're more of a companion than cats. I've Kenneth Clark: Yeah, Charles Davila: nothing Kenneth Clark: that's Charles Davila: against Kenneth Clark: true. Charles Davila: cats. Cats don't really like Murray Hodge, so I can't like them. But they're just so friendly and warm and nice animals, that don't look like that. Murray Hodge: Alrighty. I feel like a robot. Okay. Um, well I guess I had the most time to think about it. I'm going to draw a butterfly, because I saw a butterfly yesterday, that seemed to be like the symbol of Spring arriving. And it was actually the prettiest butterfly I've ever seen out in the wild, and I though that was pretty cool in Scotland. It was like, well it was a little pointier than that. At first I thought it was a dead leaf. And then it landed on the wall next to Murray Hodge. But this part was all brown and then it has these big blue dots like this. And then it kinda there was a green, I think it was a green ring, and there was like red going out like this. Gregory Powell: It's kinda like a peacock. Murray Hodge: Yeah, it kinda was actually, 'cause it was This part of the body was really dull, and then it was the most colourful exotic butterfly ever, and I'm like, wow this is the middle of Scotland in like March. So I thought that was pretty cool. And it landed by a wall and let Murray Hodge look at it for about two minutes. I wish I'd had my camera. So that's gonna be my favourite animal because after all the snow it seemed to say that like Spring is finally here. Yeah. There you Kenneth Clark: Very Murray Hodge: go. Kenneth Clark: nice. Gregory Powell: Great. Murray Hodge: Uh, what do we Oh. Gregory Powell: Do you hear the eraser buzzing while you do that? Murray Hodge: Yes I do. Gregory Powell: Yea Right. So, now that we know how to use the whiteboard, Kenneth Clark: Okay. Gregory Powell: um, the next, um, thing we need to address is our financial department, to meet our our budget, um or not meet our budget but more, um, like what kind of, uh, selling range we'll be looking at, um, wanna make this um selling price of twenty five Euros. have to, um, come up with a way to, to create a, a uh remote control, where um we can like the price to create it will be significantly less. Um, we'd like to, um to, uh, make fifty million Euro. I'm assuming that's what the M_ means. Um, and make it for an international market. Um, one thing we'd have to think about internationally is in the design of, um, like different kinds of, uh, V_C_R_s. Things like that, depending on which country you are. Another thing for the design team to think about. Um, we want it to cost, uh, absolute maximum of twelve Euro and fifty cents. Murray Hodge: Okay, so we'll have a hundred percent profit then? Twelve fifty. Gregory Powell: I'm bad at math. Murray Hodge: Okay. Gregory Powell: 'Kay. Um, so now that, um, that is underway, um it is discussion time. So this is time for us to bring our initial ideas, any um suggestions that you may have so far, a um your personal experiences with remote controls, and um, um, areas you see that, uh, could be improved in your experience with them. Does anyone have any initial thoughts? Murray Hodge: I find that in the dark it's often hard to know what button you're pushing. Gregory Powell: Mm-hmm. So what's something we could, uh, do to remedy that? Kenneth Clark: Okay. Murray Hodge: Um Kenneth Clark: I always find that in our house the remote control always goes missing. It's always, where Charles Davila: Yeah. Kenneth Clark: is the remote control? So maybe if you could have some kind of tracking device for the remote control or some signal that you could find out where it was. I dunno, some kind of alarm. You can press a button on your wall, Gregory Powell: Yeah. It's a great Kenneth Clark: signal, Gregory Powell: idea. It's a great Kenneth Clark: 'cause Gregory Powell: idea. Kenneth Clark: it always gets lost. Charles Davila: Do yous not find that, um, like, there's a lot of, um, buttons on your remote control, Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Charles Davila: and Murray Hodge: Mm-hmm. Charles Davila: you don't know what Kenneth Clark: Yeah, Charles Davila: half Kenneth Clark: that Charles Davila: of Kenneth Clark: you don't Charles Davila: them Kenneth Clark: use Charles Davila: do. Kenneth Clark: half Charles Davila: Yeah, Kenneth Clark: of them. Charles Davila: I don't know what they Murray Hodge: Mm-hmm. Charles Davila: do. Murray Hodge: There's some remote controls where there's kind of a hidden panel, so all those buttons that you don't really use Charles Davila: Yeah. Murray Hodge: unless you're Kenneth Clark: Yeah, Murray Hodge: programming Kenneth Clark: that's, Murray Hodge: or something. Kenneth Clark: that's Murray Hodge: That's useful. Kenneth Clark: Yeah, it is. Murray Hodge: So Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Murray Hodge: you just have like the number buttons, power button, T_V_ Charles Davila: Yeah. Murray Hodge: video button. Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Gregory Powell: Alright. Anything about, um, the look of the, uh, remote control that you might have ideas about. Maybe it could be, instead of like a standard rectangular shape, it could be, um, something more interesting like Any ideas will do that you have at this point. Murray Hodge: Could Kenneth Clark: Mm. Murray Hodge: be shaped like a conch, you know. Be like a shell-shaped remote. Gregory Powell: Can Kenneth Clark: A Gregory Powell: hold Kenneth Clark: novelty. Gregory Powell: it. Kenneth Clark: Are we going Gregory Powell: Yeah. Kenneth Clark: into kind of novelty factors here. Like, I've seen Gregory Powell: Well if it's Kenneth Clark: phones Gregory Powell: a trendy Kenneth Clark: like a Gregory Powell: original, Kenneth Clark: Okay. Gregory Powell: um, aspect we're going for. I mean, you're the designers, you c, Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Gregory Powell: you can um decide what kind of, Kenneth Clark: Mm-hmm. Charles Davila: Yeah. Gregory Powell: um, direction you wanna go in, but at this point in the, in the first meeting it can Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Gregory Powell: be any ideas that we just throw out there. Kenneth Clark: I suppose, if we're he heading to have it, like make a huge profit out of this, it needs to be quite a universally accepted thing. Like, a novelty Charles Davila: Yeah. Kenneth Clark: thing might only sell a few things rather than, like, a general kind of more acceptable But Gregory Powell: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Clark: we don't wanna go towards boring, 'cause that wouldn't sell either. So, Gregory Powell: Yeah. Kenneth Clark: hmm. Gregory Powell: And the key issue here is, is being trendy and original. Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Gregory Powell: Um, that does not necessarily mean it needs to be outrageous. Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Gregory Powell: Right. Okay we have five minutes left. So, just to cover We have one more thing. Um, like you can go over your ideas, of course, in your own personal times. Kenneth Clark: Yeah. Gregory Powell: Um, our next meeting will be in half an hour. So you have half an hour to, uh, think about what you want to present. Or not present but bring to the meeting. Um, I_D_, whatever that stands for. Murray Hodge: Interface? Kenneth Clark: Industrial Designer. Gregory Powell: Industrial Murray Hodge: Oh, Kenneth Clark: That's Murray Hodge: industrial. Kenneth Clark: Murray Hodge. Gregory Powell: Designer. I have to remember these things. Um. You'll be beginning your, your working design. Kenneth Clark: Mm-hmm. Gregory Powell: Um, U_I_D_ the technical functions design will, will be worked on the next thirty minutes. Um, maybe how this can be achieved, and, um, we need the user requirements from the manag Murray Hodge: Marketing Gregory Powell: Marketing Murray Hodge: Expert. Gregory Powell: Expert. Um, you will get specific instructions, um, of what to do in the next half an hour. And I'll see you in half an hour, okay? Kenneth Clark: Okay. Gregory Powell: 'Kay. Kenneth Clark: Thank you.

Gregory Powell opens the meeting by introducing herself and asking everyone to say their name and role in the group. She then states the agenda of the meeting and tells them that they will be designing and creating a new remote control that should be trendy and user-friendly. The meetings will focus on functional, conceptual, and detailed design. Next, each group member draws their favorite animal on the whiteboard and explains the characteristics of that animal. After that Gregory Powell covers the project budget, and then they begin discussing their personal experiences with remote controls and how they want their remote to look. Then Gregory Powell closes the meeting by telling each group member what to do in preparation for the next meeting.

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Michael Miller: Oh. Geoffrey Skinner: Du Michael Miller: Okay. Thanks Ron Casler: Hm. Michael Miller: for coming to this meeting. S how we doing on our remote? We have some we have some ideas and some uh ideas for what people want. Geoffrey Skinner: Uh we yes s I've lo I've the role that I was asked to anyway. Michael Miller: Yeah. Geoffrey Skinner: I think. Michael Miller: Alright let's just go over the agenda real quick for this meeting. See if I can't get things uh moving along here a little bit better. Um I'll go over what we went over last time, which shouldn't take long. Then I believe each of you have a presentation. Um I've was sent a a couple more requirements for our remote, what they want. Um then we can come to a conclusion on uh what we want the remote to do, um and how it's going to do it hopefully. And uh then we'll have the closing. Um which we'll have forty minutes for. Uh let's see, the last meeting we went over um who was responsible for what. I'm responsible for leading the meetings, keeping the notes, uh and coming up with the final presentation. Um Corinne is our Marketing Expert. She's gonna figure out what what um the consumer wants. Um Ryan is our User Interface Designer. And Manuel is Joseph Mccoin. So you're gonna come up with the ideas Ryan, and you're gonna pick 'em apart. Um we decided our remote, uh we want it to be a universal remote uh that everyone would want. Um we want to be modern, um fun, different. Uh it needs to be sturdy, um easy to find, so we gonna have that locator function. Um and we want to be different. Um and then we went over a couple of different ideas. Ball-shaped phone. The keyboard shape. Um we decided that it should probably be one-handed. Something we could use with one hand. Um and that was our last meeting. So um why don't um Do each of you have a presentation? Ron Casler: Yep. Michael Miller: Okay. I'll hand it off to you and um Does anyone do you wanna go first? Ron Casler: Sure. Michael Miller: So we can maybe see what uh what the people want. Ron Casler: What was? Function Joseph Mccoin: Eight. Ron Casler: F_ Joseph Mccoin: F_ eight. Ron Casler: eight? Ron Casler: Well. How do I get it Geoffrey Skinner: Slide show. Michael Miller: To go to the Ron Casler: Oh Michael Miller: next Ron Casler: right Michael Miller: one? Ron Casler: right right. Michael Miller: Yeah you click on that Ron Casler: That Michael Miller: guy. Ron Casler: one? Michael Miller: Yeah. Ron Casler: Okay. Alright. Well, this is my report, which is going to be based pretty much on a survey that I was sent. Oh gosh, I've no idea. G Geoffrey Skinner: Just press the arrow keys I think. Usually Ron Casler: Okay. Geoffrey Skinner: goes to it. Ron Casler: Sorry I actually need to see something else on my screen. Michael Miller: Hit F_ eight again. Ron Casler: Yeah. Michael Miller: I think. Ron Casler: And then? Again? Michael Miller: Yeah. You want it to be on both screens, or Ron Casler: No Michael Miller: just Ron Casler: I want Michael Miller: just Ron Casler: something Michael Miller: yours? Ron Casler: else on mine. Is that possible? Michael Miller: Yeah but I think you have to hit escape. And then you can Yeah. Ron Casler: Okay but now you don't have that. Michael Miller: Oh hit F_ eight again. Ron Casler: Sorry guys. Michael Miller: I know. I did the same thing. And then it should come up here shortly. 'Kay. Ron Casler: So is there no way I can give you the slideshow Michael Miller: I think Ron Casler: and Michael Miller: oh give us the slideshow and Ron Casler: yeah. Michael Miller: something on your screen? Ron Casler: Yeah. Oh Michael Miller: Mm. Ron Casler: well. Michael Miller: I'm not sure. You could maybe minimise that screen and then Ron Casler: Yeah. Michael Miller: have them both up at the same Ron Casler: It's Michael Miller: time Ron Casler: okay. Michael Miller: I think. Ron Casler: Okay. Um so first of all, the method that I used was by doing some marketing research, by um doing research on some interviews that were conducted. And then some internet research. And I was sent a report that was I think there were a hundred remote users that they interviewed. And so I will show you some of the results from that, which I think will be helpful. Um okay here are some of the findings. They said that the users dislike the look and feel of their current remote controls. And seventy five percent of the users find their remote controls to be ugly. Which is a fairly significant number I would say. And eighty percent of the users would be willing to spend more money if they could get a remote that would look fancy. So I think that earlier we were onto something when we were talking about having it be a modern cool look, I think that's definitely important. Um they say that current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. Seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot. And if anyone could clarify what that means? Zap, Geoffrey Skinner: Is Ron Casler: does Geoffrey Skinner: is it Ron Casler: that Geoffrey Skinner: j Ron Casler: just mean Joseph Mccoin: Just Ron Casler: like changing Geoffrey Skinner: just Ron Casler: the Geoffrey Skinner: just Ron Casler: channel? Geoffrey Skinner: just using Joseph Mccoin: jus Geoffrey Skinner: it yeah. Ron Casler: Okay. Joseph Mccoin: yeah. Ron Casler: Um and fifty percent of the users say that they're only using ten percent of the buttons on their remote control. And there was something else, they kept track of the frequency per hour in using certain buttons. And some of them it looks like barely need to be included at all. Of course channel selection is used the most frequently. And then teletext was the next. Volume and then power. And then audio settings and screen settings and channel settings were practically never used. So I think we could definitely eliminate or somehow combine a lot of the functions into one button. Um the biggest user frustrations, as we said fifty percent of people find that their remotes are lost somewhere, and so I think a tracking device of some sort would be a good idea. They said it take thirty four percent said it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote. And twenty six percent said that the controls are bad for R_S_I_. Geoffrey Skinner: A repetitive strain injury. Ron Casler: What is it? Geoffrey Skinner: Just repetitive strain injury. I think. Ron Casler: Okay. Geoffrey Skinner: That's what I guess. Ron Casler: Okay. And so bas okay. Um as far as speech recognition goes, um the younger group looks like they're all for it. From the fifteen to twenty five age group over ninety percent said they would pay more. And it kind of just went down incrementally. The groups at the older they get it looks like the less willing they are to pay, so maybe we could discuss this and think and decide if we think it's worth investing in this. At least if we're targeting the younger groups. And so in conclusion. Some things that I drew from this are that I think we were correct. We definitely need to focus on a new modern appearance, since so many people seem to be concerned about the ugliness of their remote control. Um a multifunctional remote could be a good thing to explore. So you only have one rather than five different remotes sitting all over your room. Uh we need to simplify the remote and reduce the number of buttons, get rid of the ones that don't seem to be serving much purpose. And then lastly I thought that maybe we could discuss the idea of speech recognition. And that's it. Michael Miller: 'Kay. Very nice. Now we actually have some ideas of what what people want, what we should focus on. Uh Michael Miller: Wait can I look at that real quick? Ron Casler: Oh yeah. Sorry did you guys get time to write everything Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Ron Casler: that you needed? 'Kay. Geoffrey Skinner: Having just listened to what Corinne just said, I'll draw on some of the things well. Some things that sort of what I wanna say. 'Kay so I'm just gonna yeah approach the technical functions design. Um the method I used was to explore the uh technical functions of a remote control. And t s simplest approach that I came to is is to change, programme and operate an electronic device remotely. I mean that's an obvious thing to say, but it's not attached to the device that you want to control. Um I had some things sent to Ron Casler. Not very much. To look at similar devices. Um defined in some them. And then the personal preferences that I will suggest. Um we discussed a universal one. Um like it's just been brought up again then. But I think a universal remote control is actually quite a difficult object to design, and po possibly within maybe the budget that we do it, um because you'd need to know all the spef specifications of a all the like electronic companies. I'm not sure have you ever come across a universal remote control yourself, but you have to i they're a nightmare to use. You have to set them, reset them to everything. Um and that would only add buttons. Whereas I think the aim is to take away buttons. So I think it'd be better maybe to concentrate on maybe just a universal one for T_V_s. Um or maybe just one that you could we could design and then different people, manufacturers could use it to set to their specifications, if if the aim is to get something that's unique in design. Um Okay here here's just two pictures of remote controls. They're just simple T_V_ remote controls. But one is uh user-centred. That is the one on the left. And you can straight away see there's less buttons. And the other one is engineer-centred where that's more uh specified for the sort of the elaborate piece of equipment it's trying to control um which appeals more to the product that we want, and on what the have said and the market research and stuff probably looking at something that should be user-centred. Fewer buttons, simpler to use, and if ten percent um is hidden away if ten percent is what's used, maybe the other fifty percent, the buttons that are used very rarely like programming, they could be hidden maybe under some remote controls you might have come across have maybe a little flip thi thing where they're hidden away. And the main buttons are the ones you or the ones you come across. Um and finally, um uh sort I've sort of covered that, our product I think should be user interface orientated. Um Like I said to concentrate on T_V_ remote control, a universal remote might be too complex. Um and as what it, the major findings market researchers have said, it's the image and the appearance that people di dislike. So that we should concentrate on something that would set a trend. And then and change the fashion of remote controls. And that's it. Joseph Mccoin: cable there. Thank you. Michael Miller: What was your last conclusion on that one? Focus on uh Geoffrey Skinner: On Michael Miller: the i Geoffrey Skinner: something on the image of it. Michael Miller: the image Geoffrey Skinner: Uh Michael Miller: of it. Geoffrey Skinner: the f the actual design. Michael Miller: 'Kay. Good. Good. Joseph Mccoin: Okay. Gonna talk to you about the working design of the interiors basically which is what dictates the design the both the interface basically and the outer appearance because this is all the stuff that needs to go in there. Right. So unfortunately the people who were supposed to do this little presentation for Ron Casler obviously were too drunk to actually accomplish it, so um I'm going to do a the stuff on the board. Um just This is the basic basic premise of a remote control. Um the basic function is to send messages to another system. Okay so much is clear. An energy source feeds an integrated circuit, like a chip, that can compose messages. Often in the form of infrared bits. This is the most mostly used. Um there's uh also some sound systems but infrared is the better or the more more used system. Um parts are cheaper as well. A user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages. This is where my people screwed up basically. So I'm going to explain that on the board rather. Um what we have is different components that obviously need to go in there. We'll start with an energy source. Right. Um which is usually a battery right? Since it's not feasible to add a cable to that. This energy source of course is connected to the the user interface itself. Uh which can be buttons, whatever, which in fact controls a chip. Right? This is the user interface and there we have the chip. Um the way this goes normally is that this chip then controls an infrared lamp. That sends out the signal. Of course the signal differs accordingly. Um depending on what the chip tells the infrared lan lamp. And Of course that's controlled, the chip itself is controlled by the user interface. The way you normally normally do it is that you add a little device such as a lamp to the whole thing as well, so that you know that it's working basically. You press something, you get a response. Which is also comparatively um important on one of those devices. Now this, what we're talking about here, or what I think should be discussed are these two components mostly. The the uh energy source for one thing can be altered. What we probably cannot alter is of course the infrared, the sending device basically, the infrared lamp. We cannot change the chip which controls the infrared lamp. Right? These two are components that we have to use, and these are dictated by the whole function of the whole thing. Um the lamp can be put onto the desi the device. It c it doesn't have to be there. This can be discussed as well. The user interface. That's something we can also discuss. Um as we've heard uh speech recognition is the hype obviously in the moment. Speech recognition um interface, we don't know that. Or if we just do the usual button thing. Or we have a touch pad or something like that that's something we can discuss. And of course the energy source. Batteries. Solar cells. Who knows? Of course it's always a question whether these these components are in fact available cheap enough, developed enough. But that's like I s I suppose rather up to marketing, and not to Michael Miller: So we could Joseph Mccoin: to the industrial design Michael Miller: the the Joseph Mccoin: department. Michael Miller: the more complex we make it of course, the more Joseph Mccoin: Expensive Michael Miller: expensive Joseph Mccoin: it's gonna be get uh. Yeah. Michael Miller: But people have said that they would well younger generations of people have said that they would pay more for a speech recognition Ron Casler: Mm-hmm. Michael Miller: remote. So Joseph Mccoin: Right. Michael Miller: possibly it might be worth the investment. Geoffrey Skinner: I think speech recognition was uh one of those things where um they have to be really good for them to work. 'Cause sometimes you find yourself just saying things over and o Ron Casler: Yeah. Geoffrey Skinner: if it's on your phone. Michael Miller: I agree. Geoffrey Skinner: And Michael Miller: Well Geoffrey Skinner: you need to sort of take into light languages and then different dialects I suppose as well. Michael Miller: I myself I find, when you, h when there's something like spee speech recognition. Like uh you call on the phone and you try to change your telephone or power or something. Sometimes they have a a speech recognition Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: on the other end, and you say one for this, and you find yours, like you said, saying the same thing over and over and over. I find myself, especially if I'm in a crowd of people, looking really silly. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: So maybe if you're sitting on your couch with a bunch of people then Geoffrey Skinner: And Michael Miller: you Geoffrey Skinner: wou Michael Miller: know, Geoffrey Skinner: I Michael Miller: you Geoffrey Skinner: don't know if would would you want to keep saying stuff if you were watching stuff. If you were watching something would you sort of be wanting Michael Miller: Volume up. Volume Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: down. Change the channel, you know channel up, channel down? I I don't know. Ron Casler: Another thing about these figures is ninety one percent of the youngest age groups said they'd do it, but probably a lot of them that's actually their parents money. Like I don't know if they would actually go out and purchase this themselves, Geoffrey Skinner: I think Ron Casler: a fifteen year old you know. Geoffrey Skinner: As well it'd be j the gimmick factor Michael Miller: Mm-hmm. Ron Casler: Yeah. Geoffrey Skinner: for the younger people. But practically I don't Michael Miller: It's Geoffrey Skinner: think it's Michael Miller: a, it's a gimmick factor that they like at first, and Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. It'll wear off. Ron Casler: Gets old yeah. Michael Miller: Okay. Um Let's see here. Geoffrey Skinner: Do you wanna put your cord back in? Michael Miller: Yeah I guess so. Joseph Mccoin: Oh right. Michael Miller: Trade you. Joseph Mccoin: go. Michael Miller: Now I was sent a couple of things to modify our uh new requirements. Um the remote's only gonna be for the television, which is good because we already decided y your your research showed that uh not only is a universal remote more complicated, it's more cost, more costly. And your re uh research showed that you know most of the people don't even use it. I think Ron Casler: Mm. Michael Miller: uh you said fifty percent of the people only use half the or ten percent of the buttons. So if we remove the universal remote then that solves that problem. Um no teletext. Um So we don't have to worry about that. Um but we do have to use the the company wants us to incorporate the corporate colour and our slogan, which is we put the fashion in electronics. And our corporate colours are grey and yellow. And we could probably get away with black too but So those are the three um the three new requirements we need to use. Um from all all three of your uh presentations, I think that we were on the right track a lot in our last meeting. Um We want something that looks good. Um we want something that's simple. We want something that you can find easily. Um And the speech recognition I I guess is kind of uh give or take. It's gonna cost more. S Joseph Mccoin: Mm-hmm. Michael Miller: the young the younger people say that they like it. But um it's probably, I would say, probably not worth the investment at this point in time. So maybe we should just do away with speech recognition. Um And that way we can focus on our form. Geoffrey Skinner: I did have have a thought about the sort of the tracking thing. Is that if it came with maybe a holder or holster, whatever you wanna call it. Um that you you should put it back in. Your remote. But if you don't put it back in, you press something like a little button on that, and that just sort of sends out a beep to find where it is or something. Just by infrared. That shouldn't be too complex I would've thought. Michael Miller: That'd be, that'd be good if we were going with our our ball. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah it would be quite good. The ball Michael Miller: Or or Geoffrey Skinner: could sit Michael Miller: with Geoffrey Skinner: on a Michael Miller: you know I guess Ron Casler: Mm. Michael Miller: with any form that that would be good. You know that could be the charger. For Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: you know we could use rechargeable batteries in the remote. And that would be or solar. Or you know However, however you wanted to go about it, the holder could also be the charging unit. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: Um With the locator button. Um and if it were the ball you'd no longer have to have a flat space on it. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: Um Joseph Mccoin: Well you still Michael Miller: like Joseph Mccoin: do. Michael Miller: if we still have the Joseph Mccoin: You s you still Michael Miller: how to hold on to it and Joseph Mccoin: W yeah. You put it on t on the couch table. While you're watching, Ron Casler: Rolls Joseph Mccoin: it's Michael Miller: It's Joseph Mccoin: gonna Ron Casler: away Michael Miller: gonna Joseph Mccoin: roll Michael Miller: roll Joseph Mccoin: off. Michael Miller: away. Ron Casler: yeah. Joseph Mccoin: So that's not an issue really. Michael Miller: Um So I guess after the meeting we'll have some questionnaires. And uh and some summaries for for what's going on. Um then we'll take lunch. Then we can come back and uh work on our individual work. Um I'll do the minutes. Uh let's see. It looks like you're already on your way for uh working with the components. Um chips, the what chips we need and what uh you know how to power it and whatnot. User interface concept, we want it to be something simple. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: Um Minimal number of buttons. I guess our, I guess our main um main thing that we should focus on until then is probably deciding on a certain look, you know. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Joseph Mccoin: Right. That's Michael Miller: Did you have time earlier to to work on that. Did you guys feel you have enough time in between our meetings to get Ron Casler: Not Michael Miller: everything Ron Casler: really. Michael Miller: done that you need to get done? Geoffrey Skinner: I'll yeah I'll have a look, try look at the actual appearance in the next break. Michael Miller: 'Kay. Geoffrey Skinner: I th I I do still think it needs to be something that is ultimately one-handed. The ball Ron Casler: Mm. Geoffrey Skinner: is probably not a good idea. Michael Miller: Mm-hmm. Geoffrey Skinner: So that I think it still has to be a variation. On maybe a a rect on a rectangle but maybe not necessarily as boring, as Ron Casler: Mm. Geoffrey Skinner: plain as a rectangle. Michael Miller: Um Shall we maybe shoot for a a specific uh target group? That way we could l I mean if it were, if we were shooting for young guys then it's um a certain look to the remote. Or girls or older people? Um Would that you think that would help us find um a specific form? That we would would wanna pick out? Geoffrey Skinner: D I don't know if that might cope with like the trend-watching. Ron Casler: Mm. Geoffrey Skinner: I find anything more on that. Ron Casler: Yeah not yet but maybe by the next meeting we'll have some info on that. Michael Miller: 'Kay. Michael Miller: So um we know that the remote's gonna have to be we'll just say we've got a colour scheme for it. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: Um yellow and you know yellow it's nice and bright, with the Joseph Mccoin: Mm. Michael Miller: buttons being grey or black. And our slogan pasted somewhere on it, on the the bottom Geoffrey Skinner: Bottom perhaps Michael Miller: or the Geoffrey Skinner: yeah. Michael Miller: you know. Um Michael Miller: Maybe we could sketch a so basically all of our remotes all of our typical remotes now are just kind of a rectangular sort. You know. Um maybe we could flare it or something. You know. So it's more of course this will look like a bone then. go ahead and erase this. Um Michael Miller: Hope everyone memorised that uh Geoffrey Skinner: You I mean it might be to look at sort of the the shape and trend of like things like mobile phones, and the shapes that the they've been going. Michael Miller: Yeah. Ron Casler: Mm. Michael Miller: Yeah. Geoffrey Skinner: They've gone from big brick block things, which is a remote control is, to sort of slinky small things. Michael Miller: Yeah everybody's got a mobile phone right? Except for Ron Casler now. Uh But they are all, you know, mobile phones um they've kind of taken a turn to where they're really small. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: Um which may defeat our purpose for Ron Casler: Mm. Michael Miller: being able to locate our remote all the time. Joseph Mccoin: Right. Michael Miller: But then again you don't want you know like the first mobile phone that was this big and you had a handbag to carry it around in. Um So we've got basically what remotes look like now is kind of what we're what we're stuck with. Um Maybe we could go with a square or something. Um Joseph Mccoin: Hm. Michael Miller: Um you know with minimal number of buttons. I guess you've got you know one through nine. For typing in your channels. Uh you've got volume, up and down. Channel up and down. Ron Casler: Power. Michael Miller: Power. Usually at the top. Um a mute. Joseph Mccoin: That's the classical Michael Miller: That's Joseph Mccoin: design. Michael Miller: that's pretty much all you need I think. Um A menu button, maybe. Joseph Mccoin: Right. Michael Miller: So you know. If you, if we want the remote to do other things like um or I guess the T_V_ to be able to change the tint and the colour and you know all those kind of things that are built into T_V_s, we just have that under one standard menu button where you go in, press the menu button, scroll up and down to select it. Ron Casler: Yeah. Joseph Mccoin: Yeah. Michael Miller: Um Joseph Mccoin: Talking of which maybe a scrolling function is not not too bad. Michael Miller: 'Kay so Joseph Mccoin: It's Talk Michael Miller: Um Joseph Mccoin: about maybe f look at that from the side, there maybe. Which is technically the easiest option. Would probably be like a scrolling, little scrolling wheel like this. Michael Miller: Mm-hmm. Joseph Mccoin: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Michael Miller: Like a wheel Joseph Mccoin: So. Michael Miller: on your mouse. Joseph Mccoin: Yeah, sort of like that. Michael Miller: Sort of. Joseph Mccoin: You can even if we're coming from mice, we can even add a click function, where you, in order to verify the information you just press it down. Right. Michael Miller: 'S a good idea. Joseph Mccoin: Also when it comes to the ergonomics of the whole thing, if you wanna make it square for the looks of it, then maybe to make it more comfortable to hold the whole thing, you add a little bulge down here. Just which maybe from an engineering point this could be holding the the batteries and so on. Michael Miller: Mm-hmm. Joseph Mccoin: I know. You know what Michael Miller: Look Joseph Mccoin: I'm getting Michael Miller: g Joseph Mccoin: at here, Michael Miller: yeah. Joseph Mccoin: fel Ron Casler: Mm-hmm. Michael Miller: Looks Joseph Mccoin: look Michael Miller: good. Joseph Mccoin: at it from the side. It's like that. Right. Uh Then you hold it in your hand like this. And Geoffrey Skinner: Yes Joseph Mccoin: maybe you bring the buttons Geoffrey Skinner: s Joseph Mccoin: nearer to the or the imp more important buttons nearer to the Michael Miller: To the Joseph Mccoin: to Michael Miller: thumb. Joseph Mccoin: the side. Geoffrey Skinner: To Michael Miller: Yeah. Geoffrey Skinner: the thumb Joseph Mccoin: Right. Geoffrey Skinner: yeah. Joseph Mccoin: Mm. Geoffrey Skinner: Maybe the buttons could like uh decrease in s the bigger ones you know they could actually be bigger in size than the ones that are less important, the smaller here. Joseph Mccoin: Right. You can also have it, maybe, talking about mobile phones again, sliding open. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Joseph Mccoin: functions Geoffrey Skinner: Behind. Joseph Mccoin: on this part, and Geoffrey Skinner: Definitely. Joseph Mccoin: then it slides into that part. And out. Geoffrey Skinner: just like o on a sort of side view. Something that you know it would sort of fit in the hand better. So you know you just sort of have your hand Joseph Mccoin: Mm well I was just thinking, this Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Joseph Mccoin: this of course Geoffrey Skinner: Right on Joseph Mccoin: causes Geoffrey Skinner: the and your thumb would be up here type thing. Joseph Mccoin: causes a problem um for left or right-handed people actually. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah that's also true. Joseph Mccoin: So. Geoffrey Skinner: instantly sort of always going for the right-handed person. Joseph Mccoin: Right. Geoffrey Skinner: But I mean the older so Michael Miller: Yeah is everyone who in here's right-handed, left-handed? Ron Casler: Right. Michael Miller: You guys Joseph Mccoin: Right. Michael Miller: all right-handed? Geoffrey Skinner: Right-handed, yeah. Michael Miller: Yeah. So I'm left-handed but Ron Casler: Uh-huh. Michael Miller: I, so I can say that most things are designed for right-handed people. Joseph Mccoin: That's right. Michael Miller: Like the written language. Or English. Ron Casler: Maybe you could buy like a special left-handed version of the remote. Michael Miller: Maybe. Ow. Ron Casler: Special order. Michael Miller: I would say I mean it should be probably designed for a right-handed p person. Ron Casler: Yeah. Michael Miller: Um but that's that's good. That's w I think we've got a kind of a good plan there. Um At least for what buttons we're gonna use. Um So we've got uh I like the scroll, the scroll action and the. Geoffrey Skinner: I mean I'm just just thinking maybe if it was um circular um with the sort of that sort of the sort of early idea we had, with the way that was more like that, whereas this is just a one-handed thing that you sort of almost wrap round the thumb. So you'd have your, you'd put your hand into there with the thumb there. And then your thumb would do you'd have all the buttons sort of round here. And that I think could work. Michael Miller: Yeah. Geoffrey Skinner: On any hand. Michael Miller: Kinda like holding a Geoffrey Skinner: If you just had it like wrapped round there. Left or right. Ron Casler: Mm. Joseph Mccoin: Right. That minimises it size-wise Geoffrey Skinner: Minimise Joseph Mccoin: as well. Geoffrey Skinner: its size. It could be you know really quite Joseph Mccoin: Mm. Geoffrey Skinner: small. Joseph Mccoin: Then there's maybe another point of making it a two-in-one kind of thing. If we have a smaller a smaller device that actually fits into the big one. You give it the full functions in here, and just a couple of functions in there. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Ron Casler: Hmm. Joseph Mccoin: Like your zap zapping Geoffrey Skinner: Zapping Joseph Mccoin: device Geoffrey Skinner: functions. Joseph Mccoin: is just u channels up-down, uh volume, and on-off. That's it. Ron Casler: Could Michael Miller: Yeah. Ron Casler: be good. Joseph Mccoin: Maybe. Michael Miller: So two remotes in one. But then would be easier to lose one or the other. Joseph Mccoin: That's right. Means the big one has to be sufficiently big. And perhaps heavy, so you can't move it around. Make it a piece of furniture. Ron Casler: Yeah, Michael Miller: It actually is your coffee table. Joseph Mccoin: yes. Ron Casler: yeah. Joseph Mccoin: Yes, there you go. Or a statue or something. Michael Miller: Okay. Well we need to finish up here. Um So for the next So for the next um before the next meeting w uh sh shall we work on you're watching trends Ron Casler: Mm-hmm. Michael Miller: to see what Geoffrey Skinner: Yep. Michael Miller: what kind of new information we've got going on. Um Manuel you're going to work on the components Joseph Mccoin: Right. Michael Miller: for for what we're gonna use. Let's go with our our uh rounded kind of fit in your hand let's explore uh the the uh possibility of having the two-piece. So one for the Joseph Mccoin: Alright. Michael Miller: the quick zapping um and possibly one you know with just that rounded part Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Michael Miller: that fits into your hand. Um And Ryan you work on um how how well they'll work Geoffrey Skinner: How Michael Miller: with Geoffrey Skinner: well it'll Michael Miller: the us Geoffrey Skinner: work yeah. Michael Miller: with the user. So both of those concepts. And uh okay I think we made some good progress here. Joseph Mccoin: Alright. Michael Miller: see you in I dunno. I gu I guess we'll take lunch in about uh half an hour. Or I guess we'll be taking lunch shortly and then then in about half an hour after that we'll probably have another meeting. Geoffrey Skinner: Yeah. Joseph Mccoin: Alright. Michael Miller: Okay.

Michael Miller recapped the events and decisions of the previous meeting. Ron Casler presented research on user preferences and tendencies with remote controls. The research indicated that users want remotes to be more attractive, to match the behavior of the user, to be easier to locate when misplaced, and not to cause RSI. The research also indicated that younger users were interested speech recognition. Geoffrey Skinner spoke on the option to have a universal remote, presented two differently designed remotes available on the market, and described some features a user-centered remote should include. Joseph Mccoin discussed the interior workings of a remote and then the team discussed the option to include speech recognition in their design. Michael Miller briefed the team on some new requirements to abide by. The team then discussed the option to include a recharger with a locater button in their design, the appearance of their remote, buttons, how to make an ergonomic remote, and the option to have a two-piece remote.

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John Muina: Okay. John Muina: Right. Okay. John Muina: Alright. everyone? Virgil Fuston: Yep. John Simmons: Yep. John Muina: Okay. This is our conceptual design meeting. And I'll just take a few minutes and uh go through the previous minutes. Um then each of you will have your presentation, um and then we will need to make a decision on the concept for the remote control. And then we'll have uh forty minutes for finishing up. Um I'll go through the mee through the minutes first. Um, we just refreshed our our goal making the finest remote control available. Um we decided that, or we know that we need to use company colours, company logo. Um and our Marketing Expert uh gave us some i uh information from interviews with a hundred different remote users. Um with some statistics that backed basically what we were thinking before. People thought their remotes were ugly, um um that remotes zap a lot. Um they only use uh a finite amount of buttons. Um and that they often lose the it's easy to lose a remote. Um which were all things we were thinking we would wanna make it simple. Um And uh some sort of locator. Either a button or tracking device. Um And that it should look different than what's out there. Um Kind of mixed mixed response on the speech recognition. The younger people said they wanted it, older people did not. Um uh I think we decided that um the expense was not necessarily worth it, and that it was probably a gimmick, that um would increasingly wear on the consumers' nerves. Um Then John Simmons um explored some of the technical functions of the remote. Um the simple versus the um the complex. The simple one being better for a user, the complex better for an engineer. Um Um and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user-oriented remote, something simple. Um and that we didn't wanna go with a universal remote, because uh increasing cost and increasing complexity. Um we would just have a T_V_ remote. Um and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote. Have it s be something that looks different. And finally our um Industrial Designer uh gave us a rundown of how the remote will work. Um from energy source, um uh what we would use. Batteries because we don't wanna have a a cable. Um How that would power the remote and the lamp. If we were to to have one. Uh um the user interface then would connect to a chip, which would work with the infrared controls uh to send the signal to the T_V_. Um I believe then we came up with a couple of ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be. Um Um something that will fit into uh easily into someone's hand. And with a, just a few buttons. Just the basics. And with a scrolling um function also. Okay and I will leave that, leave it at that. So Marketing? Virgil Fuston: Okay. John Muina: We're watching trends. Virgil Fuston: Can I have your John Muina: I suppose Virgil Fuston: cable John Muina: that you can Virgil Fuston: please? John Muina: have this. Virgil Fuston: Thanks. Virgil Fuston: Okay so I was looking at trend-watching. Um unfortunately I wasn't given too much information. I was given a brief executive summary, and then an update on some recent fashion trends that we might like to look at. And then I'll just tell you some personal preferences that I got from that. Um okay the Virgil Fuston: functional look-and-feel design, which I think we've kind of already discussed before. Um the second most important finding was that the remote should be technologically innovative. And again these are all things we've kind of already come up with on our own, but this just backs it up. And thirdly the remote would be easy to use. As far as fashion update, we've learned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for cloths, shoes and furniture. So that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate this into our remote, but we can try. Um and also, as opposed to last year, this year the material is expected to be spongy in feel. Okay so from that um, as we've already said, we need to focus on a fancy look-and-feel. Um I think we've already discovered that it's kind of hard to go away from the traditional rectangular design. But I think that, even if it's very subtle, we need to kind of trick our consumers, so they at least get the idea that they're getting something that's new and modern and sleek and Whether it's through the shape or the colours or all of that. Um for technologically innovative, we've talked about the tracking device. We brought up the idea of having two pieces, which we could discuss further. And Manuel had suggested um the energy source and the user interface, discussing some of those, um that we could change a little bit. We need to keep it simple, have limited buttons, which I think the two piece idea might be really beneficial for. Um we need to incorporate this fashion trend of fruits and vegetables. I don't know, I mean I guess the two options are if we had our remote in the shape of a fruit or vegetable. John Simmons: Oh it was sort of banana shaped. Virgil Fuston: Yeah. John Muina: A banana shape? Virgil Fuston: Yeah. Right. Or with exterior designs. But my question is, I mean the stereotypically speaking, you kind of picture males with their remote controls, and I'm not sure how they'd feel about having fruity logos on the outside. So maybe we could have something that's somewhat removable, or I don't know, different options for female, male target groups. And then the spongy feel. I guess we could look at mobile phones and other technology that's out there. C and look at different types of material that might please our users who want spongy-feeling remote controls. So that's that. John Muina: So possibly James Kuziel: Alright. John Muina: like a uh, sorry, just to butt in for a second. Possibly uh like a cover like they have for mobile phones? Virgil Fuston: That's what I was thinking John Simmons: Those like, Virgil Fuston: yeah. John Simmons: yeah, sort of spongy John Muina: You have one John Simmons: ones. John Muina: with a flag, and one with a banana and one that's a spongy Virgil Fuston: Yeah. So John Muina: feel to it. Virgil Fuston: when you buy your remote you can buy John Muina: You can Virgil Fuston: various coverings. John Muina: Mm various John Simmons: What's it called? John Muina: covers. John Simmons: Cust you Virgil Fuston: Personalise John Simmons: personalised, Virgil Fuston: your remote. John Simmons: yeah. John Muina: We could leave that to the cover department. John Simmons: Yeah. Virgil Fuston: Mm-hmm. John Muina: We all know they've got nothing to do all day. John Simmons: Okay. Why can't I see the crazy. Um yeah I talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to, will use the, consumer will use the actual device. Um so I've looked at some of the stuff I was sent, um, try and get some inspiration. But keep in mind ideas that we had. Um I was sent some information from the company saying that they, the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology, where you can program questions into such devices. They gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question, you program the answer, and the machine responds accordingly. Um okay. There's different ways of a user can use products l like a remote. Um there's a graphical use, where you you look at pictures and well on a screen. A command line where you obviously type things in, and you get a response. Um and then it ju that's just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes. You can't really see that picture well, but there's various different remotes, once again with lots of different buttons on, making it more complicated. So, then I had a look at new products that are on the market. Not necessarily remote controls but ones that you'll recognise. Um this is the voice, there is a voice recognition remote control, which can control mus multiple devices. I have a there is a picture. You surf your favourite channels uh with your voice. Store up to eighty speech samples, controls four devices, T_V_, cable, satellite, V_C_R_, D_V_D_ and audio. And you can record your own v verbal labels, that are connected to remote control functions. So the technology is there. Um the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting, where there has scroll down functions on the side. You can sort of just make those out. And then on the right is obviously an iPod, which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there, and really is, and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through. That is a possibility. And nothing's simpler really. Um then there's things like this, which is a a a kid's remote, where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before. So the remote control it o only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch. And um it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control. So I don't know if there's a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had two components, maybe it can have more components you know, different remotes. Um the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be need to be clear on your um devices, as to what, you know, things you use. Sometimes an arrow pointing down, which may suggest volume down, could become confused just as a V_ for volume. Just little things like that, which would need to be made clear in the design. Um I think, d carrying on from what I've already said, a user friendly remote with minimum buttons. Maybe we've so suggested this two-part thing, where if it was to have a speech recognition thing, you could maybe control that on the do it or program all that on the control bit. And then just have the simple sort of hand-held thing that we sort of devised earlier, as the actual remote. Um I don't it could be a graphical display, the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an iPod where you just sort of control through the menus. Stuff like gets more and more compli complicated. And then the the hand-held bit should be ergonomically designed. And that is it. Why am I Oh yeah. Just. Where are we? Uh. Just to sort of show you. M they've even got things like that. Huge things. Which is just for your gr ninety year old grandma yeah? James Kuziel: That's industrial design John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: for cranes, stuff like John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: that. Virgil Fuston: Dunno. John Simmons: And James Kuziel: Makes John Simmons: that James Kuziel: sense, John Simmons: yeah. John Muina: Notice James Kuziel: makes John Muina: the James Kuziel: sense. John Muina: giant dog bone shape? Also John Simmons: Yeah. John Muina: good for John Simmons: See. John Muina: animals. John Simmons: things. John Simmons: Why's my screen James Kuziel: Uh John Simmons: crazy? James Kuziel: Well let's see. I'm going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior. Just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there, and that we do have to fit the stuff in there. I've more information on possible materials um as well. What we can and cannot do. Um but let's just wait for this to up and I'll show you what we're talking about here. Okay. The details of the components' design, as you can see there, what we have is the board, main board of the remote control. The underside, that's pretty cheap piece of of technology really top left side you can see the chip, which is the, what we were talking about, this was is the device to recognise the signals the input, and it passes it on to a row of um further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal, which later on is being, is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then um of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognise what signal um it's getting and will do what you tell it. Um So much for the the workings of the of the uh remote control itself. Its job is to wait for you to press a key, then to translate that key press into infrared light signals, um that are received by the television. When you press a key um you complete a specific connection. The chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed. It produces a morse code line signal specific to that button. Right. Pretty clear. Transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. The sensor in the T_V_ can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal reacts appropriately. This is the circuit board from the other side. Um the lower part of it, I don't know if you can see that properly, with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the first the first slide just flipped over. Um you can see the circuit board itself. That's the cheapest uh way to make electronic connections basically on the market. Um what you do is you have, don't have cables, but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board. These are the actual keys that are being pressed. They close the electric circuit. That then sends the signal to the chip on the other side. That would be behind here. Um which uh sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there. Now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it. Um the way it works is that you have the keys here. The rubber button has a little metal uh plate on the other side, which closes the circuit here. And thus gives on the signal. Now this is the simple version. Um we are talking um this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time. We are talking something more complicated of course, it's going to be more expensive as well. And not only that. Um we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell, or in the material that we could use for our outer shell. Um I've gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic, rubber, as well. Um rubber that is used in these anti-stress balls. So it's pretty squishy. That would Virgil Fuston: Spongy? James Kuziel: that would serve that purpose. Um we could also use wood, or titanium. John Muina: What's the approximate per hundred thousand for the titanium? James Kuziel: Oh fya I don't have an information on that. However our company obviously can provide us with uh with the titanium, so I assume, I'm, I was given an okay to use it. It certainly is an expensive material, I'm aware of that, but I was given an okay. But there are certain restrictions to certain materials. Now let's first go through the list with the materials. So we what we can use is plastic, rubber, wood and titanium. Can also mix these. Um as for the energy source, um we were talking about that shortly in the other meeting. Um what we could use is, or what I was offered, or what we could use, is a basic bateer battery. Right? Uh a dynamo. Interestingly enough. Um we could use solar cells. Or a device that was not n not further specified that provides kinetic energy. Such as like watches you know. Where you just move them m move the the actual device and this pr uh provides it with with uh some energy. So um obviously I personally have to say that dynamo is John Simmons: Mm. James Kuziel: out of the question really. You don't wanna wind up your remote control before you can use it right? Um solar cell is interesting. May fail though, every here and there. John Simmons: Would you have to leave it by the window? James Kuziel: Mm. John Simmons: yeah. James Kuziel: Yeah couch John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: for a week and yeah mm. Always John Muina: Works James Kuziel: the John Muina: well in Arizona James Kuziel: you John Muina: but in James Kuziel: But John Muina: Edinburgh Virgil Fuston: Y probably James Kuziel: exactly. John Simmons: Yeah. Virgil Fuston: not John Muina: not Virgil Fuston: yeah. John Muina: so James Kuziel: Um the kinetic energy thing um might work, um but the same problem. You leave it lying around and you first have to shake it before it it starts to work. So I'd say what we're stuck with really is um the basic battery. Which also makes a base station basically obsolete. We don't need that then. Um However our interface options are push-buttons. In which uh in the production of which or in manufacture of which um our company is expert. Um However we've discussed that scroll wheels are a better option. And they are possible. We have an okay for scroll wheels. Okay. Um however when it comes to the scroll wheel of the iPod I've one big objection and that is that we have to fit an L_C_D_ into the remote control as well. This however may exclude certain um materials. If you have a squishy uh kind of remote control, then an L_C_D_ screen may be affected by the movement. Hence we might not be able to put it in there. So um There's also restrictions to, when it comes to the chip. If we have a more sophistic uh sophisticated scroll wheel rather than this very basic uh set-up that we that I've just presented, um the chip has to be more s more sophisticated and thus more expensive as well. I don't have any details to, when it comes to the cost but um it will be a significant difference. I'd rather say drop the titanium and therefore let's have a more sophisticated chip, but that's not up to Virgil Fuston to decide really. So that's for the for the scroll wheel. Um it limits our choice and squishy is hip, so I'd say rather not go for for that. Let's see now. Um um solar cells cannot be used on a curved or latex um surface or um remote control. But obviously that's not our problem um since we have decided or against solar cells, I assume right? Virgil Fuston: Mm. James Kuziel: Or is John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: anybody still John Muina: No James Kuziel: alright. John Muina: I think Virgil Fuston: No. John Muina: I Virgil Fuston: Hmm. John Muina: think batteries are probably the way to go. James Kuziel: Alright. John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: Uh which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional I assume. Um Um With the titanium um we cannot make it a curved design. We would just be able to make it flat and and um yeah a straight design pretty much. Which I assume would exclude uh some of the more sophisticated versions. John Simmons: Would the sort of spongy and the the plasticky thing y you can get those mobile phones that initially have a it is plastic but then they have sort of Virgil Fuston: Mm. John Simmons: a a Virgil Fuston: Like John Simmons: s Virgil Fuston: a covering. John Simmons: a cover on it Virgil Fuston: Yeah. John Simmons: which is just sort of soft and stuff. So I don't know if that would still be possible to have you know in plastic. But then where do people hold it? Just John Muina: Yeah. John Simmons: all be sort of spongy. Virgil Fuston: The we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts, so they can remove it. John Simmons: So you Like the James Kuziel: You John Simmons: iPod? James Kuziel: can have an L_C_D_ screen. Um but therefore no rubber will be used. John Simmons: Right. James Kuziel: Alright? So plastic yes, titanium yes, but this will of course influence the form. With plastic, as I understand it, you can use any form. Um latex is tricky. Or rubber and um and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form. So the way to go is if you want a scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular, uh add an L_C_D_ screen, and um then you can basically choose either plastic or titanium. John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: Or wood even. Um if you wanna make it a particular shape, use plastic. Add John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: an L_C_D_ screen, add a scroll wheel, that'll be fine. Or make it just push-buttons. Basically plastic gives you the b biggest variety of of options. Maybe not the nicest feel. Or not much John Muina: So James Kuziel: originality John Muina: the ru James Kuziel: really. John Muina: wait the rubbery we can shape it however we want? Or the rubbery we cannot? James Kuziel: With rubber we could uh sh pretty much shape it the way we wanted John Muina: 'Kay. James Kuziel: it, but we cannot add scroll wheels, and we cannot John Muina: Mm. James Kuziel: add an L_C_D_ screen. Virgil Fuston: Mm. John Muina: Mm. James Kuziel: That's the tricky thing. John Simmons: Could we not you know have a shape with a scroll and the screen, and then j just sort of that initial shape we had, just which is uh sort of banana-esque. So that's thing if we did it yellow. John Muina: Yeah. John Simmons: And um you know you just p stick on just sort of rubber things that that sort of grip the thumb bit. They wouldn't have any they're just on the exterior. They wouldn't be necessary to the actual shape of the thing. John Muina: Is that an option, a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at James Kuziel: S John Muina: certain spots? James Kuziel: Certainly can be done yes. Um yeah. if that doesn't affect John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: the functional side of it all. Like say just the underside or so then it can be done. I assume. Yeah. James Kuziel: So The fruit design um How about um affecting the surface of the actual um remote control? Say we don't make it p a particular fruit shape Virgil Fuston: Mm. James Kuziel: obviously, but uh give it like the surface of an orange, banana, whatever. You name it. John Simmons: Mm. John Muina: What James Kuziel: Just John Muina: about a James Kuziel: design-wise. John Muina: smell? T to the remote? James Kuziel: Mm. Nice one. John Simmons: You could just sell it in different colours as well I suppose. In different Virgil Fuston: Bright John Simmons: ye Virgil Fuston: citrus John Simmons: yellows. Virgil Fuston: colours yeah. James Kuziel: Mm. John Simmons: I don't suppose we have to stick to James Kuziel: Well John Simmons: co James Kuziel: we we're supposed to stick John Simmons: Stick James Kuziel: to John Simmons: to the colours yeah. James Kuziel: the Virgil Fuston: Oh yeah. James Kuziel: company colours Virgil Fuston: Yellow James Kuziel: though, Virgil Fuston: and James Kuziel: that's Virgil Fuston: grey. James Kuziel: yellow and grey. John Muina: Yellow and grey. James Kuziel: So what have we, lemon, banana, is John Simmons: Mm grapefruit. John Muina: Grapefruit. James Kuziel: Grapefruit is what we'd go for, when it comes to the outer appearance perhaps. But mm. John Muina: I would say, if I were to make a decision, I would probably put the fruit aspect at the lower John Simmons: Yeah. John Muina: lower end of the spectrum of of importance. Um Virgil Fuston: I think having a shape could be a little ridiculous, like John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: Well we have it banana-shaped Virgil Fuston: Well we kinda James Kuziel: already, Virgil Fuston: do yeah. John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: kind of. So John Muina: Well perhaps the implied shape will be enough to lure that John Simmons: Yeah. John Muina: fruit-minded remote Virgil Fuston: And if it's yellow? John Muina: buyer. James Kuziel: Right. John Simmons: and if it if it was done yellow, which John Muina: It's John Simmons: is a company John Muina: it's yellow. John Simmons: colour. James Kuziel: I it's yellow. John Muina: It's Virgil Fuston: Grey buttons John Muina: curved. Virgil Fuston: yeah. James Kuziel: Well so why John Muina: It's James Kuziel: not add John Muina: sort James Kuziel: a couple John Muina: of James Kuziel: of grey stripes and make John Muina: couple James Kuziel: it look John Muina: of James Kuziel: like a banana? John Muina: couple John Simmons: Yeah. John Muina: of grey stripes. We could put the grey stripes on the bottom so that that person John Simmons: On the John Muina: could turn John Simmons: the gr John Muina: it John Simmons: the John Muina: over. John Simmons: rubbery grips could be John Muina: It would look like John Simmons: grey. John Muina: a banana Virgil Fuston: Mm. John Muina: just sitting on their table. John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: There you go. John Muina: Rather than rather th John Simmons: It could and then you could actually h put the banana-shaped thing on the fruit bowl, Virgil Fuston: Oh. John Simmons: on the coffee table, and then people would always know where it was. John Muina: Maybe the holder, Virgil Fuston: Nice. John Muina: if we were Virgil Fuston: Could John Muina: to have Virgil Fuston: look John Muina: a Virgil Fuston: like John Muina: holder, Virgil Fuston: a fruit John Muina: it could Virgil Fuston: bowl. John Muina: be shaped James Kuziel: It could John Muina: like James Kuziel: be John Muina: a fruit. James Kuziel: an ape. John Muina: Could John Simmons: Yeah. John Muina: be, it could be an ape or a fruit bowl. we John Simmons: Yeah. John Muina: could have a variety of options here. Virgil Fuston: 'Kay. James Kuziel: Yeah. John Muina: Do you have more to your presentation? James Kuziel: That's pretty much it. I informed you about the materials, John Muina: Oh. James Kuziel: what the interior has to look like, and what the limitations to certain materials are on there you go. John Muina: Okay. I'm gonna plug in here real quick. James Kuziel: Sure. John Muina: If James Kuziel: Hang on. John Muina: I could. James Kuziel: There you go. John Muina: Um ow. Ow. Virgil Fuston: So is the two piece idea out? Or have we not decided? John Simmons: Well we sort of rid of that because gonna use a battery. And the base station might not be necessary. Virgil Fuston: Oh right okay. James Kuziel: Well we can still design a two-piece John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: uh remote um without having a base, having one of them be a base station, John Simmons: Yeah. James Kuziel: but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions, or you take Virgil Fuston: Mm. James Kuziel: out the smaller piece. We can still do that. However of course this would be like designing two remotes pretty much. John Muina: Mm-hmm. James Kuziel: So um which then, as I understand it, would probably limit the, limit again the the the use of certain materials, because they would be too expensive. Say like have a scroll wheel and uh on both of them, or have an L_C_D_ screen and so on so on. Virgil Fuston: Mm. James Kuziel: You'd probably have to stick rather with a just traditional rubber button design which we saw there. Virgil Fuston: Mm. James Kuziel: But could be done, of course. John Muina: Okay. Uh so these are the decisions that we do need to make by the end of this meeting. Um for our components concept we need to come up with the energy source, um the chip-on-print, and the case. Probably case um material. And probably a shape also. Um and then for the user interface concept we need to decide what the tape, what, what the type is. And what kind of supplements we'll have. Um Energy source I think we've, I think we've decided batteries, although not exciting, are probably our best bet. James Kuziel: Right. John Muina: And we have five minutes. James Kuziel: Okay when it comes to the chip-on-print, as I said, the the more advanced features you want, um the fancier the chip has to be and the more expensive. Uh if you want just a normal button version, the chip-on-print Virgil Fuston: Mm. James Kuziel: is gonna be a cheap one. Right? John Muina: 'Kay. So Um I guess we should pick the case then. If we go with the plasticky case, or the the plastic case, um then the chip-on-print is still kind of, we could have either or. We could have a complex one or a a non-complex. James Kuziel: Yeah. John Muina: But did we decide that the rubbery feel was important enough to us? Virgil Fuston: Well what about what you said, like putting John Simmons: Just Virgil Fuston: the John Simmons: just Virgil Fuston: finger John Simmons: maybe Virgil Fuston: grips John Simmons: yeah. Virgil Fuston: just on John Simmons: Just Virgil Fuston: top John Simmons: a little Virgil Fuston: of the plastic? John Simmons: bit of. John Muina: Okay. So we would, we would have the L_C_D_ screen? James Kuziel: as long as the pla uh the rubber is nowhere near the controls, yes. John Muina: 'Kay. So I guess the case would be plastic, with Perhaps that's not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it. It's John Simmons: Yeah. John Muina: more of a su it's more of a supplement maybe. Virgil Fuston: Yeah. James Kuziel: M more of a l lamination perhaps. John Simmons: Yeah. Virgil Fuston: So then for the scroll, are we going for the iPod type? John Simmons: Yeah I think so. Virgil Fuston: Yeah? John Simmons: I think. Virgil Fuston: Okay. John Muina: Which will require a more expensive chip-on-print right? James Kuziel: Yes. It does. John Muina: 'Kay. So John Muina: I guess that, is that, is that about it? So we have a good idea of what we're gonna need to to do on this? James Kuziel: Right. John Muina: Um okay so we will have another meeting in thirty minutes. Um Here's what's gonna be going on. Um Um Ryan you'll be working on the user interface design. Um Manuel you'll be working on the look-and-feel design. James Kuziel: Right. John Muina: Corrine we'll want a product evaluation. And the two of you get to play with the uh modelling components and uh maybe and and get us a prototype. Which should go along well with your look-and-feel design and your interface. So that basically just be working on the prototype, uh we'll accomplish your other two actions. John Muina: Alright. Okay. Let's do it.

John Muina reviewed the minutes of the previous meeting. Virgil Fuston discussed the results of trend watching reports which indicated a need for products which have a fancy look and feel, are technologically innovative, easy to use, include a fruit and vegetable theme, and are spongy in feel. Virgil Fuston stressed the need to incorporate these findings into the team's design and suggested that the team should create a remote that has limited buttons , can be personalized, and is not rectangular. John Simmons briefly described how speech recognition technology works and what ways a user can use a remote. John Simmons presented three existing products on the market - a voice recognition remote, an iPod, and a children's remote - and discussed a few features to include in the team's design. James Kuziel discussed the interior workings of a remote and the restrictions involved in combining various components, energy sources, and materials. James Kuziel also discussed with the how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into their design. The team then discussed and decided what components, materials, and energy sources to use.

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Anthony Straka: Yep. Soon as I get this. Anthony Straka: Okay. This is our last meeting. Um I'll go ahead and go through the minutes from the previous meeting. Uh and then we'll have a, the prototype presentation. Um then we will um do an evaluation. Uh or we'll see what, what we need to have under the criteria for the evaluation. Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget. Um then we'll do the evaluation, and then can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need to make, or hopefully everything will fall right in line. Um let's see, minutes from the last meeting. Um we looked at uh the the trends. We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel. It was twice as important as anything else. Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles. Um and a spongy feel. So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype. Um they wanted limited buttons and simplicity. Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our own remote. Um looking at other other devices. Um the iPod, we really liked the look of that. Um we also had uh the kid's remote for a simple idea. Um a two part remote, which was what were were originally looking at. Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uh predominant and easier to use. But I think we've still decided not to go with that. Then we looked at the components um the materials for the case, the different energy sources, the different types of chips, um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote. Um and basically how, what were making for the prototype. So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guys take over. Frank Salazar: The prototype discussion. Anthony Straka: The prototype yeah. Do you need a this? Frank Salazar: No. Anthony Straka: Okay. Frank Salazar: There Robert Ferguson: Can try Frank Salazar: is Robert Ferguson: to Frank Salazar: our Robert Ferguson: plug Frank Salazar: remo Robert Ferguson: that in there but Frank Salazar: the banana. Um yeah basically we we st went with the colour yellow. Um working on the principle of a fruit which was mentioned, it's basically designed around a banana. Um but it would be held in such a fashion, where it is, obviously it wouldn't be that floppy 'cause this would be hard plastic. These would be like the rubber, the rubber grips. So that's so that would help with grip, or like the ergonomics of it. Um but all the controlling would be done with this scroll wheel. You have to use your imagination a little bit. And this here represents the screen, where Anthony Straka: Very Frank Salazar: you, Anthony Straka: nice. Frank Salazar: where you'd go through. And the the simplest functions would be um almost identical to an iPod, where that one way ch through channels, that way th other way through channels. Volume up and down. And then to access the more complicated functions you'd you sorta go, you press that and go through the menus. It's that that simple. That just represents the infrared uh beam. That's a simple on and off switch. Um I don't know, we could use the voice. T that blue bits should be yellow, d that that'd be where the batteries would be I suppose. And um that's about it. It's as simple as you, we could make it really. Is there anything Robert Ferguson: Right. Frank Salazar: you want to add? Robert Ferguson: That's what we have there. That's plastic. Plastic covered with rubber. We might uh add some more underneath here. Maybe give it, give it a form. I mean you're supposed to hold it like that, but um just if you grab it, take Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: it from somewhere, Frank Salazar: Doesn't make much Robert Ferguson: so Anthony Straka: Mm-hmm. Frank Salazar: make Robert Ferguson: yeah, Frank Salazar: much difference. You Robert Ferguson: you Frank Salazar: could Robert Ferguson: have Frank Salazar: work Robert Ferguson: some Frank Salazar: left-handed Robert Ferguson: rub Frank Salazar: or right-handed Robert Ferguson: yeah. Frank Salazar: I suppose. Robert Ferguson: Exactly, use both. Might as well Frank Salazar: T the Robert Ferguson: think Frank Salazar: actual Robert Ferguson: about Frank Salazar: thing might be smaller. Robert Ferguson: Th think about the button as Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: well. put either one one on either side or Anthony Straka: What but what's Robert Ferguson: not Anthony Straka: that Robert Ferguson: do Anthony Straka: button? Robert Ferguson: it at all. Frank Salazar: Just the on Robert Ferguson: It's Frank Salazar: and Robert Ferguson: a quick Frank Salazar: off. Anthony Straka: Uh, Robert Ferguson: on-off Anthony Straka: 'kay. Robert Ferguson: button. That's um yeah I think it's pretty important. So you don't have to fiddle with that. Anthony Straka: 'Kay. Robert Ferguson: Right? Um that's not um I'd say a bit smaller would probably be nice. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: You wanna play with that over there. There you go. Frank Salazar: It's you know it's flimsy 'cause it's made out of heavy Play-Doh, Anthony Straka: Would you like Frank Salazar: but Robert Ferguson: Right. Anthony Straka: to uh James Kupchinsky: Pretty impressive. Anthony Straka: Well done. James Kupchinsky: Kind. Frank Salazar: And whether or not it would fall into the cost everything I suppose. With the scroll and the L_C_D_. Anthony Straka: Well luckily we are going to find out. Or not luckily. Um do you have a James Kupchinsky: I Anthony Straka: marketing James Kupchinsky: do. Anthony Straka: presentation for us. James Kupchinsky: Okay. You guys are gonna help James Kupchinsky do an evaluation of the criteria. Um. James Kupchinsky: Okay. So first I'll just discuss some of the criteria that I found. Just based on the past trend reports that I was looking at earlier. And then we'll do a group evaluation of the prototype. And then we will calculate the average score to see how we did. James Kupchinsky: So we're gonna be doing it based on a seven point scale. And one is going to mean true, that we did actually achieve that. With seven being false, we did not achieve that. James Kupchinsky: Okay. So for the first one, we need to decide, did we solved the problem of the users who complained about an ugly remote? Anthony Straka: I think it's definitely James Kupchinsky: Mm. Anthony Straka: different than anything else Frank Salazar: Yeah. Anthony Straka: out there. So if they think that what is out there is ugly, then yes Frank Salazar: I Anthony Straka: I Frank Salazar: would. Anthony Straka: would say, I would say most definitely. It's bright. Frank Salazar: It's bright. It's Anthony Straka: It still has your traditional black. Frank Salazar: It's curved. It's not there's no sharp angles to Anthony Straka: Yep, Frank Salazar: it. Anthony Straka: not angular. James Kupchinsky: Mm. Robert Ferguson: I'd say, when it comes to the ergonomics, the form and stuff, yes that's definitely more beautiful than your average. However the colour, James Kupchinsky: Yeah I think Robert Ferguson: we James Kupchinsky: the Robert Ferguson: don't James Kupchinsky: colours Robert Ferguson: have a say James Kupchinsky: detract Robert Ferguson: in that. James Kupchinsky: a little Frank Salazar: Some people James Kupchinsky: bit. Frank Salazar: might Robert Ferguson: That has Frank Salazar: say Robert Ferguson: been, Frank Salazar: it. Yeah. Robert Ferguson: that has been dictated Anthony Straka: Mm. Robert Ferguson: pretty much by the company. So James Kupchinsky: That's true. Robert Ferguson: uh Anthony Straka: Yep. Robert Ferguson: to answer that honestly I would rather say like uh, we have not solved the problem completely with James Kupchinsky: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: the ugly remote because the colour is ugly, definitely. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: 'S nothing you can say about that. I mean I much prefer something like brushed chrome Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: with that form. But Anthony Straka: Yeah something more modern to go Robert Ferguson: Right. Anthony Straka: a a modern colour to go with the modern form. Robert Ferguson: Right. It's different. You don't want your uh three feet huge L_C_D_ dis display in your living room that's hanging from the wall to be controlled with something like that. James Kupchinsky: Um okay so, do you think, since we This was a a sign criteria, do you think maybe we should put it somewhere in the middle then? Does Robert Ferguson: Yeah. James Kupchinsky: that sound good? Anthony Straka: Yeah. Frank Salazar: Yeah. James Kupchinsky: What do you think? Three? Four? Anthony Straka: I James Kupchinsky: Five? Anthony Straka: would say four. James Kupchinsky: Four Robert Ferguson: Yeah. James Kupchinsky: is fair. Okay. Anthony Straka: Very non-committal, four. James Kupchinsky: Okay, the second one. Did we make it simple for new users? Robert Ferguson: It's very intuitive, I think yeah. Frank Salazar: Yeah. I think that was the main aim, one of the main aims that we had. Robert Ferguson: S give it a one. James Kupchinsky: One, Anthony Straka: Yeah. James Kupchinsky: 'kay. Okay. Um, do the controls now match the operating behaviour of the users? Frank Salazar: Uh yeah. James Kupchinsky: I'd Frank Salazar: 'Cause James Kupchinsky: say Frank Salazar: we've James Kupchinsky: that Frank Salazar: we've brought it down to basically four controls most common, which Robert Ferguson: Right. Frank Salazar: are Anthony Straka: Mm-hmm. Frank Salazar: channel and volume. And then the other ones are just a matter of just going, just Anthony Straka: S Frank Salazar: scrolling further. Anthony Straka: scrolling through and selecting Frank Salazar: Yeah. Anthony Straka: a few. Robert Ferguson: Right. James Kupchinsky: So one? Robert Ferguson: So that's a one. James Kupchinsky: Yeah? Anthony Straka: I think that's a one. James Kupchinsky: Okay. Okay um the fourth one. How about the problem of a remote being easily lost? One of the number one Robert Ferguson: Something James Kupchinsky: complaints. Robert Ferguson: that big and that yellow you just don't lose anymore. Frank Salazar: Yeah. James Kupchinsky: Whether Frank Salazar: It's James Kupchinsky: you Frank Salazar: bright James Kupchinsky: want to Frank Salazar: yellow. James Kupchinsky: or not, Frank Salazar: Bright James Kupchinsky: you're Frank Salazar: yellow's James Kupchinsky: not Frank Salazar: hard James Kupchinsky: gonna Frank Salazar: to James Kupchinsky: lose Frank Salazar: lose. James Kupchinsky: it. Frank Salazar: But um if we were to, if we were, that, the speech recognition. That, we could maybe just use that solely for the the finding thing. That was what we'd we'd mentioned. Anthony Straka: So if we incorporate speech recognition into it then it Frank Salazar: Just Anthony Straka: could Frank Salazar: just to use, to find it when it was lost. But like I said, like I Robert Ferguson: Oops. Frank Salazar: don't think you'd lose something so yellow so easily. And it's Robert Ferguson: Hmm. Frank Salazar: not gonna fall, like a rectangle would slip down behind things. That's gonna be a difficult shape to Robert Ferguson: Well Anthony Straka: And Robert Ferguson: what Anthony Straka: it is quite bright and Frank Salazar: Yeah. Maybe in the middle again, three or four or something? Robert Ferguson: S James Kupchinsky: Okay. Anthony Straka: Uh Frank Salazar: I mean you know loo losing things is one of those things that people can lose, Anthony Straka: Yeah. Frank Salazar: I mean a million ways. You can pick it up and walk away with it and then you've lost it. James Kupchinsky: That's true. Robert Ferguson: Mm. Anthony Straka: But if we do James Kupchinsky: Mm. Anthony Straka: go with the, with the speech recognition, then it, then our scale goes up quite a bit Robert Ferguson: Oh Anthony Straka: I Robert Ferguson: yeah. Anthony Straka: think. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: You probably Anthony Straka: Probably two. You know. If we eliminate the fact that you know it's impossible to guarantee that it's not gonna be lost Frank Salazar: Yeah. Anthony Straka: then Robert Ferguson: Mm. Anthony Straka: I'd say two. With the speech recognition, which of course may be changed depending on budget. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: Y you could add an extra feature actually. Which makes this thing raise hell when you remove it too far from the television. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: We could add that but that's nothing we have thought of Anthony Straka: Which, Robert Ferguson: so far. Anthony Straka: which may be cheaper than speech recognition if it Robert Ferguson: Yes. Anthony Straka: were just a Frank Salazar: Yeah true. But James Kupchinsky: Annoying Frank Salazar: I mean d just James Kupchinsky: alarm Frank Salazar: those whistling, James Kupchinsky: or something? Frank Salazar: clapping James Kupchinsky: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: It's Frank Salazar: key rings Robert Ferguson: it's Frank Salazar: you have. They're cheap. So it can't be that Robert Ferguson: Um the it's based Frank Salazar: expensive. Robert Ferguson: on this anti anti-theft Anthony Straka: Some sort of Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: technology Anthony Straka: proximity Robert Ferguson: for suitcases and stuff, where you have one piece that's attached to your luggage, another piece that starts beeping. That can't cost much. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: So that can also easily be integrated because these things are small enough to to hide, so you have one piece, you have to glue somewhere behind Frank Salazar: stick it Robert Ferguson: your Frank Salazar: on the T_V_. Robert Ferguson: stick it behind your T_V_ and the other Anthony Straka: Pray that you don't accidentally lose that piece. Robert Ferguson: Right. That'd be tough then. Well also your remote would uh alarm you if somebody stole you t your television, yeah. Ran off with it without taking the beautiful remote control. Frank Salazar: Yeah. James Kupchinsky: So. Are we adding one of these two features? Robert Ferguson: Let's James Kupchinsky: gonna Robert Ferguson: add James Kupchinsky: say Robert Ferguson: one of those features James Kupchinsky: okay. Robert Ferguson: and say yes. Anthony Straka: Okay. James Kupchinsky: So we're back to a one? Or a two? Frank Salazar: Two. Robert Ferguson: Two. James Kupchinsky: Two, Anthony Straka: Two. James Kupchinsky: 'kay. Okay. Are we technologically innovative? Robert Ferguson: Uh Frank Salazar: I'd say so. Uh don't get many mo Robert Ferguson: It's all Frank Salazar: remote Robert Ferguson: just Frank Salazar: controls with screens on. Robert Ferguson: It's all just stolen technology Frank Salazar: Yeah James Kupchinsky: From Frank Salazar: it's stolen James Kupchinsky: iPod Robert Ferguson: when it Frank Salazar: technology. Robert Ferguson: comes Anthony Straka: It's James Kupchinsky: yeah. Robert Ferguson: down to Frank Salazar: But we have. Anthony Straka: But James Kupchinsky: But Anthony Straka: there's James Kupchinsky: for Anthony Straka: not James Kupchinsky: remotes Robert Ferguson: right Anthony Straka: a lot of yellow, there's James Kupchinsky: yeah. Anthony Straka: not a lotta yellow. Course Frank Salazar: Fa Robert Ferguson: right Anthony Straka: that wasn't Robert Ferguson: right Anthony Straka: really Robert Ferguson: right. Anthony Straka: we were kinda forced to take that colour. James Kupchinsky: Two? Three? Anthony Straka: I don't know that we Frank Salazar: 'cause it's Anthony Straka: are Frank Salazar: stolen. Anthony Straka: that innovative, Frank Salazar: No Anthony Straka: to Frank Salazar: maybe Anthony Straka: tell you Frank Salazar: not. Anthony Straka: the Robert Ferguson: Yeah Anthony Straka: truth. Robert Ferguson: not really. James Kupchinsky: But how many remotes do you see like this? Not Anthony Straka: If James Kupchinsky: so Anthony Straka: we James Kupchinsky: many. Anthony Straka: added the screaming factor then we go up. Robert Ferguson: Right. Anthony Straka: Um I would say we're probably at four. James Kupchinsky: Really? Okay. That's gonna hurt us. Okay. Um spongy material? Robert Ferguson: Yeah well you have that, Anthony Straka: We have some spongy, Robert Ferguson: kind Frank Salazar: Yeah Robert Ferguson: of, Frank Salazar: as Anthony Straka: yeah. Frank Salazar: much as Robert Ferguson: sort of. Frank Salazar: as needed, I think. James Kupchinsky: 'Kay. Robert Ferguson: It's not a one though. Anthony Straka: No. Robert Ferguson: One would be the whole thing Anthony Straka: Yeah. Because it's only got Robert Ferguson: to fold and stuff. Anthony Straka: what, these parts are the grips and perhaps the back side the Robert Ferguson: Yeah. Anthony Straka: bottom the underneath on Frank Salazar: Yeah. Anthony Straka: the back. Robert Ferguson: So that's a four at Anthony Straka: Probably Robert Ferguson: most. Anthony Straka: a four at most. James Kupchinsky: And Anthony Straka: Possibly James Kupchinsky: lastly, Anthony Straka: even a five. James Kupchinsky: did we put the fashion in electronics? Robert Ferguson: Y yes. James Kupchinsky: I'd Frank Salazar: Yeah. James Kupchinsky: say we did. Anthony Straka: If Robert Ferguson: More Anthony Straka: your fashion is b is Carmen Miranda, you betcha. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: Well the recent fashion is rather displayed in the Frank Salazar: On the Robert Ferguson: in the L_C_D_ and Anthony Straka: It's Robert Ferguson: the Anthony Straka: true. Robert Ferguson: way you operate it than Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: the form and the colour, but it definitely is. Frank Salazar: Be what we were told, and they'd say yeah, definitely. James Kupchinsky: 'Kay. Alright. Now we just gotta calculate. Six eight twelve sixteen. Seventeen divided by s Anthony Straka: Seven is James Kupchinsky: Eight. Anthony Straka: Two point Anthony Straka: two point four? Frank Salazar: Is that some long division? No. James Kupchinsky: Well I haven't Anthony Straka: Something. James Kupchinsky: done math in years. What two I dunno. Frank Salazar: Just, I'm sure there's a. James Kupchinsky: Okay we'll say two point four two. Right? How does that look? Robert Ferguson: I'm impressed. I can't do that without a calculator. Frank Salazar: No I can't do long James Kupchinsky: It's Frank Salazar: very James Kupchinsky: been Frank Salazar: impressive. James Kupchinsky: a while. Anthony Straka: And what what is the acceptable criteria? Is there like a scale that we have to hit? James Kupchinsky: Oh no. They just told James Kupchinsky to pick my own criteria and have you guys evaluate it basically. Anthony Straka: Alright then. James Kupchinsky: So that's that. Anthony Straka: Okay. Well, let's see. Now we get to do the budget numbers. You didn't know that you were gonna have a budget. But we do. Okay. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Yeah so. You'd been going a long time dividing that. It's two point four two eight five se it just keeps going on. James Kupchinsky: Oh my god. Okay. Frank Salazar: Two point four two basically. James Kupchinsky: Yeah we'll go with that. Not Anthony Straka: So James Kupchinsky: too shabby. Anthony Straka: I have here Robert Ferguson: Fifty Anthony Straka: an Robert Ferguson: percent, you're kidding. Anthony Straka: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: P Anthony Straka: We want a fifty percent profit on this. Oh you can't really see that very well. Frank Salazar: Charge about three hundred quid for it. Anthony Straka: Twelve and a half Euros is what supposed to cost us. Okay, so Robert Ferguson: It's too much. Anthony Straka: Well let's Robert Ferguson: Um Anthony Straka: see. The f the Wonder if I can make this Robert Ferguson: Uh Anthony Straka: What the Anthony Straka: Oh it won't let James Kupchinsky do that. Okay. Alright so at top, I don't know if you guys can read that or not. I can't 'cause I don't have my glasses on, but so we've got the energy source. There's uh Robert Ferguson: Battery. Anthony Straka: four, five, six categories. We have energy source, electronics, case. supplements, interface type, and then button supplements. Okay so Uh first of all energy source, we picked battery. Um and how many batteries do we think this will probably take? Probably some e either two or four. Robert Ferguson: Two. Anthony Straka: Two? Like it. Robert Ferguson: At four it's gonna be too heavy, so that that's not our problem. People can change it every month. They won't Anthony Straka: Excellent. Robert Ferguson: know until after they bought it. Anthony Straka: This is consumerism. Alright so for the electronics our choices are simpl simple chip-on-print, regular chip-on-print, advanced chip-on-print, sample sensor, sample speaker. Frank Salazar: We're advanced chip are we? Robert Ferguson: That's the advanced chip-on-print, yeah. Anthony Straka: 'Kay, we have one of those. 'Kay then the case is a Probably it's double Robert Ferguson: Double Anthony Straka: curved. Robert Ferguson: curved, yes. Anthony Straka: Case materials are Robert Ferguson: Plastic. Anthony Straka: plastic. Um I guess it's two, since one for the top, one for the bottom. Robert Ferguson: N Anthony Straka: Is that right or is Robert Ferguson: no. Anthony Straka: it just one? Robert Ferguson: No that's just Anthony Straka: Maybe Robert Ferguson: one. Anthony Straka: it's one because of the Robert Ferguson: It's just one mo single mould, we can do that. Anthony Straka: 'Kay. Frank Salazar: Yeah yeah. James Kupchinsky: Right. Anthony Straka: I guess it doesn't matter 'cause the price on that one is zero, which Robert Ferguson: Exactly, Anthony Straka: is nice. James Kupchinsky: Oh. Robert Ferguson: right. Anthony Straka: Special colour? Robert Ferguson: That's not a special colour. James Kupchinsky: Bright Robert Ferguson: It's James Kupchinsky: yellow. Robert Ferguson: a specially ugly colour, but it's not special. Anthony Straka: Interface type. We have pushbutton, Frank Salazar: S Anthony Straka: scroll-wheel interface, Robert Ferguson: S Anthony Straka: integrated scroll-wheel pushbutton, and Frank Salazar: That's Anthony Straka: an L_C_D_ display. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Anthony Straka: So we actually have the L_C_D_ display Frank Salazar: And then Anthony Straka: and then is it the integrated or Frank Salazar: I'd Anthony Straka: is Frank Salazar: say Anthony Straka: it Frank Salazar: the integrated. Robert Ferguson: Yes Anthony Straka: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: unfortunately. Anthony Straka: 'Kay. Button supplement? Special colour? Frank Salazar: Mm. Anthony Straka: Um special form? Special material. Robert Ferguson: We could of course make the buttons wood. Say mahogany or so James Kupchinsky: It'd look really lovely. Anthony Straka: Or titanium. Robert Ferguson: Mm-hmm or titanium. James Kupchinsky: Yeah. Anthony Straka: They cost us all the same. Frank Salazar: remote control. Robert Ferguson: Uh Anthony Straka: Well Robert Ferguson: just Anthony Straka: we only have one button so really we shouldn't be charged, we Frank Salazar: No Anthony Straka: shouldn't Frank Salazar: that's Anthony Straka: be Frank Salazar: getting Anthony Straka: charged Frank Salazar: a bit Anthony Straka: anything for Frank Salazar: tiny. Anthony Straka: the the button supplements. Um Frank Salazar: Yeah. I'd ignore that. James Kupchinsky: Leave it blank. Anthony Straka: Okay. We're gonna leave that one blank because we run on a L_C_D_ and scroll. So our total is fifteen point five. Which I believe Robert Ferguson: Yeah that's too much. Anthony Straka: is by three Euros over. Robert Ferguson: It's hard to believe. So we'll go for the hand dynamo huh? Anthony Straka: So the only thing better than um Frank Salazar: If Anthony Straka: a banana-shaped Frank Salazar: it w Anthony Straka: remote is one that you shake. Frank Salazar: What if we completely took out the the one single button we've got on. And just had a scroll wheel interface. And the L_C_D_ display. I suppose the L_C_D_ C_ display's the one that's pushing it up a bit though. Anthony Straka: Yeah 'cause the Well 'cause we have to have both right? Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: I mean let's let's face it, it also depends on the software on the Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: on the television. You can have the the information that this thing transmits be being displayed on the on the screen. Anthony Straka: Mm-hmm. Robert Ferguson: So s yeah let's take Frank Salazar: Yeah Robert Ferguson: away the Frank Salazar: you could maybe take out the L_C_D_ dis display Robert Ferguson: Yeah. Frank Salazar: even, Robert Ferguson: Yeah. Frank Salazar: if it if it comes up on the computer itsel on the T_V_ itself. Robert Ferguson: Right. Anthony Straka: So we may not need the L_C_D_ display? Frank Salazar: Uh that is possible yeah. Robert Ferguson: Right. We may not need it. There you go. Anthony Straka: Well there Robert Ferguson: Perfect. Anthony Straka: we go. Frank Salazar: There we go. Anthony Straka: Twelve James Kupchinsky: Perfect. Anthony Straka: point five. Okay. So we just remove our Frank Salazar: Screen. Anthony Straka: screen here. Frank Salazar: Make it a bigger dial. Easier to use. Even easier to use then. Anthony Straka: Besides look at what the L_C_D_ does to our lovely remote. Robert Ferguson: Okay, the Anthony Straka: Back to the design room boys. Robert Ferguson: So we can just take away a heck of a lot of the there you go. James Kupchinsky: What's the blue part? Robert Ferguson: central? Frank Salazar: That was just James Kupchinsky: Oh that's Robert Ferguson: Oh that's James Kupchinsky: the Frank Salazar: we James Kupchinsky: batteries. Robert Ferguson: just Frank Salazar: ran out of yellow. Robert Ferguson: yeah. James Kupchinsky: Okay. Robert Ferguson: There you go. Frank Salazar: There you go. Robert Ferguson: Oops. Frank Salazar: Even simpler. James Kupchinsky: Looks more like a banana. Frank Salazar: Yeah. For all those Robert Ferguson: There Frank Salazar: fruit Robert Ferguson: you go. Frank Salazar: lovers Robert Ferguson: One more Frank Salazar: out Robert Ferguson: criteria. Frank Salazar: there. Anthony Straka: Okay so the costs under twelve point five Euro. Was no. We redesigned it. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Anthony Straka: Now it's yes. Next slide. Project evaluation. Uh project process, satisfaction with, for example, room for creativity, leadership, teamwork, means, new ideas found. Um So I guess that Let's see here. Anthony Straka: I think that perhaps the project evaluation's just supposed to be completed by James Kupchinsky. But I'd like to hear your thoughts. James Kupchinsky: Trying to fill in some Robert Ferguson: Fair James Kupchinsky: time Robert Ferguson: enough. James Kupchinsky: there. Anthony Straka: Uh h what did you think of our project process? Robert Ferguson: Great. Frank Salazar: we did yeah I think we did quite well. Robert Ferguson: Yeah. Frank Salazar: Um Anthony Straka: Good. James Kupchinsky: Good teamwork. Robert Ferguson: Just half a day, you have a remote. Frank Salazar: Yeah. Robert Ferguson: There you go. Frank Salazar: Right from the start of the day. Anthony Straka: Yeah I Frank Salazar: We Anthony Straka: think Frank Salazar: sort of knew where we were going straight away I thought. Anthony Straka: we st we started off a little little weak. Our leadership was quite weak in the beginning. Um um But as the day went along we had more idea of what we were doing. Um room for creativity? There was that. Um I think we tried a lotta different things and um I think it was um interesting as you guys brought up more um information and studies that we were right on with a lot of those things. Um you guys worked together well as a team. And um the means? Which Frank Salazar: Yeah. Anthony Straka: was the whiteboard Frank Salazar: We've Anthony Straka: and Frank Salazar: used Anthony Straka: the pens. Frank Salazar: the whiteboard. Robert Ferguson: Super super. Anthony Straka: I had some problem with the pen I think, James Kupchinsky: Minus Anthony Straka: but James Kupchinsky: your PowerPoint fiasco. Robert Ferguson: Well Anthony Straka: minus your Robert Ferguson: that's Anthony Straka: p Robert Ferguson: not my fault. That's James Kupchinsky: No Robert Ferguson: obviously James Kupchinsky: I know. Robert Ferguson: the James Kupchinsky: I'm Robert Ferguson: people I work for uh James Kupchinsky: yeah. Anthony Straka: Well Robert Ferguson: that work James Kupchinsky: Incom Robert Ferguson: for James Kupchinsky, uh they've just you know Anthony Straka: Have a Robert Ferguson: are gonna roll, believe Anthony Straka: we Robert Ferguson: James Kupchinsky. Anthony Straka: have a list of employees that you would like fired. Robert Ferguson: Yes yes. Anthony Straka: Okay. N new ideas found? Um James Kupchinsky: Mm. Kinda. Anthony Straka: Yes for the remote. Maybe no not f for Frank Salazar: Technology used. Anthony Straka: technology. Alright. Closing. Costs are within the budget. Project is evaluated. Um complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary. That's it. Frank Salazar: Excellent. Anthony Straka: And I still have to do my minutes for the last meeting. Actually. Um so there will probably be another questionnaire coming up. James Kupchinsky: We might have Anthony Straka: And James Kupchinsky: a while Anthony Straka: then we'll have James Kupchinsky: though. Anthony Straka: to check with the main boss whether we can, what goes on after that. But that's the end of our meeting.

Anthony Straka opened the meeting and read the minutes of the previous meeting. Robert Ferguson and user interface designer presented the prototype they created, which was designed to look like a banana. James Kupchinsky conducted an evaluation of the prototype. The team found that, although the overall design of the prototype was attractive, its yellow color was ugly. The team rated the prototype highly on its ease of use and felt that its yellow color and shape detracted slightly from its ability to be misplaced and that a feature which causes the remote to make noise based on its proximity to a television needed to be added. The team thought the prototype was fashionable and not technologically innovative or spongy. Anthony Straka led the team in calculating the production costs of the remote and ensuring that they aligned with the project budget. The costs were over budget, so the team opted to exclude the LCD from their design to meet their budget. The team conducted an evaluation of the project process and found that they performed well and were somewhat satisfied by the resources available to them.

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Raymon Kim: Then press uh al Pedro Fraley: Okay. Raymon Kim: This. Greg Straker: I don't Raymon Kim: You Greg Straker: know. Raymon Kim: know? Greg Straker: Just try. Pedro Fraley: 'Kay. Greg Straker: On Raymon Kim: Oh oh. Greg Straker: this normal Pedro Fraley: Alt F_ five. Greg Straker: Good. Doesn't appear on the screen here. Raymon Kim: Right well Greg Straker: Oh. Raymon Kim: Wow. Amazing. It's working. Greg Straker: Okay. Thank you. Uh. Matthew Martin: Hold that. Greg Straker: Yes and you Matthew Martin: Okay. Greg Straker: can put can clip it uh on your Somewhere. Matthew Martin: Okay. Mm. Greg Straker: So, good morning, everyone. Um Welcome uh at the kick off meeting of our uh latest project. I hope you all have been uh updated about it. Raymon Kim: Yeah. Greg Straker: Good. Pedro Fraley: So. Yes. Greg Straker: So w we will try to structure this uh meeting with an a with an agenda uh as presented here. Um after the opening we will tr get acquainted to each other. See what our roles are in this project. So, um We have been provided with uh some uh w technical tools to uh to communicate and to well, learn from each other's plans uh as I can say um so w we will also try to uh to get acquainted to this tools so they are also new to Matthew Martin I don't know whether you worked with them before. Um then we will come to the uh to the to the actual project plan. You all know I hope how it's about uh the uh new r remote control we are going going Pedro Fraley: Total. Greg Straker: to design. Uh then we will uh discuss uh, well, how it should be and uh wh what uh what our new product should look lite like. And uh well then uh after some twenty five minutes I hope uh we can end this meeting. So. Um basically this is about a uh a new c remote control. Um We When you design a new product you of uh you of course want it to be original. Be uh we want to be distinguished, mm? People uh want to uh when they look at the shelf want to think, well that's the product I I need. So it needs to be trendy. I mean trendy is what people want, so then I w they will buy our product. But then, uh, it also should work uh user friendly and uh otherwise people uh uh well it will not be uh be rated very well in consumer uh articles and like that. So, the general outline of uh new project will be we first uh go through a functional design phase. Um You all get uh um certain task uh in this uh in this phase and uh then we will meet again and uh discuss this functional design. And the same holds for the uh ph two phases uh after this, the conceptual design and after that a a more detailed design in which the the final project should get its definite shape. Alright, but first we will do some uh tool training. In all in front of you uh you see uh the uh notebooks and w uh n note blocks and we have here a a a a white-board. Pedro Fraley: Whitebo Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: And um well it should work uh I've read it from my uh from some colleague that it should work with some kind of toolbar. I didn't find out yet how it work, but maybe one of you did, so Um Raymon Kim: Under documents in the shared folder. Okay. Greg Straker: Yes. Do Do we have to say something about that? I I I'm not fully updated about this shared folder uh. Raymon Kim: Yeah, I guess we'll have a shared folder uh with documents that we can share. Greg Straker: Yes Raymon Kim: yeah. Greg Straker: well we will then find out ho how it works. Raymon Kim: Yes. Greg Straker: Um. Well, this seems to Matthew Martin, yes, some computer program but I didn't find it yet. So, we'll come to that later. So, uh now we will try out the white-board we have here. So, I would suggest uh Raymon Kim: Each of us is going. Greg Straker: Well, yes, um we uh we should try to t to draw on it and then well it should be smart some way. I I'm not really sure how this works, but Raymon Kim: Okay, shall I start? Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: Yeah, Matthew Martin: Yeah. Pedro Fraley: you Greg Straker: Yes, Pedro Fraley: can start Greg Straker: a good Pedro Fraley: it Greg Straker: idea Pedro Fraley: you know. Matthew Martin: I think for us Greg Straker: Mael. Matthew Martin: it's just like a normal whiteboard, but they'll be recording Raymon Kim: So, Matthew Martin: what we Raymon Kim: i Matthew Martin: write down. Pedro Fraley: No they will record through that. There's a sensor over Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: there which is going to record Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: the strokes Matthew Martin: But Pedro Fraley: that Matthew Martin: for Pedro Fraley: you Matthew Martin: us Greg Straker: Okay. Pedro Fraley: make. Matthew Martin: it's just like a normal whiteboard. Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Greg Straker: 'Kay. Raymon Kim: But it's Actually, I think I cannot go with uh Greg Straker: You you D doesn't it work? Maybe someo Maybe maybe Anna, maybe Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Kim: Yeah. Greg Straker: you can start. Then he can maybe find out to get his cord right. Matthew Martin: I have Greg Straker: So Matthew Martin: to draw. Greg Straker: um L Why don't you draw uh your favourite animal on on th on Matthew Martin: M Greg Straker: the white-board. Matthew Martin: my my favourite animal. Sorry this is all tangled up here. Greg Straker: Oh, I see uh Matthew Martin: That's better. Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Greg Straker: Yeah. Yes. Mm. So draw it. We will try to Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: guess what it is. Matthew Martin: I'm a very bad drawer. Weird. my drawing. I'm a bad drawer. Okay. Greg Straker: Mm. Matthew Martin: They're Pedro Fraley: 's a Matthew Martin: ears, Pedro Fraley: cat. Matthew Martin: by the way. No. Um close though. Okay so like a pet animal. Raymon Kim: Okay. Matthew Martin: Like a cat. Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Greg Straker: It's like a cat, so I guess it's a cat. Matthew Martin: No, not a cat though. Greg Straker: What is this now? Pedro Fraley: Ah you forget about it. Raymon Kim: You're on the knife. Pedro Fraley: Yeah, uh I think it's fine. I just don't want to carry it off. Man, this wires, eh? We need a wireless microphone. You know? Pro specially we should next project we should take l like that. Greg Straker: So, Matthew Martin: Okay. So. Greg Straker: that's Matthew Martin: It's Greg Straker: the cat. Matthew Martin: not a Greg Straker: Oh. Matthew Martin: cat, it's Pedro Fraley: So. Matthew Martin: a dog. Raymon Kim: Mael. Greg Straker: It's a dog. Matthew Martin: Yes. Greg Straker: So but that's also kind of Pedro Fraley: Oh Greg Straker: cat, Pedro Fraley: the dog Greg Straker: isn't Pedro Fraley: doesn't Greg Straker: it? Pedro Fraley: have a tail? Matthew Martin: It's Greg Straker: B Matthew Martin: got a tail then. Greg Straker: bo Pedro Fraley: Yeah, Greg Straker: both predators. Pedro Fraley: sure, yeah. Matthew Martin: Yeah yeah. Pedro Fraley: I thought so. The dogs have a tail. Greg Straker: So, thank Matthew Martin: So do Greg Straker: you. Matthew Martin: cats. Greg Straker: Uh d did you uh Matthew Martin: And you guessed cats Greg Straker: work Matthew Martin: without Greg Straker: out Matthew Martin: a Greg Straker: cord? Matthew Martin: tail. Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Raymon Kim: Yeah, I think I will go without Matthew Martin: Okay. Raymon Kim: without it, right? Greg Straker: Okay. Pedro Fraley: It'll still not extend, right? It's not up to that. Matthew Martin: Okay, there you go. So what favourite characteristics. Uh. Dogs are always friendly and loyal and fun. Matthew Martin: A horse? Pedro Fraley: It's a horse. Matthew Martin: This is why you're the designer. And I'm marketing. Greg Straker: Yes. Yes, yes this is Yes definitely a horse. Yes. Oh very good. So Matthew Martin: Ah Greg Straker: I suppose Pedro Fraley: Ah Greg Straker: it Pedro Fraley: I think you can put that. Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. That's it. A blue and black zebra. Greg Straker: Yes. Can you can meet them in Africa, I think. Yes. Very good. So Matthew Martin: The very rare blue zebras. Yes. Pedro Fraley: I'll Greg Straker: Ma Matthew? Pedro Fraley: tell to get it off my Uh? Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: So Matthew Martin: You got a lot Greg Straker: Maybe Matthew Martin: of room here. You can probably reach. Pedro Fraley: Oh y it's not for that. Matthew Martin: No? Pedro Fraley: No. Greg Straker: I hope you have some space in your uh the Pedro Fraley: Okay. Greg Straker: horse Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Greg Straker: of uh Mael. Pedro Fraley: So what should I draw? Mm. He has already to do cat. Matthew Martin: I took a dog. Matthew Martin: Um. A mouse? Greg Straker: This looks likes a cat who has been driven over. Matthew Martin: Okay. Raymon Kim: Yeah. And we should sum up its favourite charas characteristics, right? Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Kim: So Greg Straker: That's that's definitely a cat. Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Kim: Uh yeah. And i Th They like to sleep, that's why you said you they are like this. Yeah. Greg Straker: It's quite, you know relaxed situation. Yes. Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: Yes, okay. Raymon Kim: She has the small legs. Greg Straker: Th thank you, Matthew. Raymon Kim: Yeah. Thank you, Matthew. Matthew Martin: It's Raymon Kim: Perfect. Matthew Martin: a very big rat. Or a very small Raymon Kim: Oh Matthew Martin: cat. Raymon Kim: a rat, okay. Greg Straker: Yes, this is certain uh some contribution to our Raymon Kim: And Greg Straker: project. Raymon Kim: you, Matthew Martin: Mm 'kay. Your turn. Greg Straker: So. Let's see. Which animal has not been drawn yet. Greg Straker: So you've all drawn land animals, so why not draw an animal from Raymon Kim: A bird. Greg Straker: the water. Raymon Kim: Okay, in the water. Matthew Martin: Ah I don't know what that is. It's Raymon Kim: Mm. Matthew Martin: a bit It's a bit hard to guess. Raymon Kim: Yeah. Greg Straker: Mm. Pedro Fraley: So Raymon Kim: Put it colours. Maybe it would help Matthew Martin: Yeah. Raymon Kim: us. Greg Straker: Yes. Pedro Fraley: The cat is going to eat the fish or Raymon Kim: With Pedro Fraley: the Raymon Kim: different Pedro Fraley: rat? Raymon Kim: pen widths. Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm Greg Straker: So Matthew Martin: Oh, it's a shark now. Raymon Kim: Ah it's a shark, yeah. Greg Straker: Oh, yes, why not? Good idea. Pedro Fraley: Ah it's a baby shark, it looks to Matthew Martin, you Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: know it's going to eat the cat rather than the cat eating the fish, Raymon Kim: Oh. Pedro Fraley: no? Matthew Martin: Now it's a swordfish. Greg Straker: Why not. Raymon Kim: You Greg Straker: A swordfish. Raymon Kim: have some in in Australia, right? Matthew Martin: Swordfish. Raymon Kim: Yeah. Matthew Martin: Um, Raymon Kim: I dunno. Matthew Martin: maybe. I've never Raymon Kim: Oh Matthew Martin: seen Raymon Kim: well. Matthew Martin: one, no. Raymon Kim: Yeah. Greg Straker: I hope it still works. Raymon Kim: Perfect. Greg Straker: So Raymon Kim: So I dunno if we need to spend time on that, actually But uh Pedro Fraley: You should go for the Greg Straker: W Pedro Fraley: next Greg Straker: Well, Pedro Fraley: one Greg Straker: this Pedro Fraley: it seems to Greg Straker: uh Pedro Fraley: Matthew Martin. Greg Straker: this tool seemed to work. Raymon Kim: Yeah, Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Kim: exactly, Greg Straker: Let's continue Raymon Kim: yeah. Greg Straker: to uh to Raymon Kim: Wow. Greg Straker: the real stuff. Um our project uh finance uh thing. Uh when we are and when w you are uh going to design w uh we must keep in mind that the selling price of the product uh will be about twenty five Euros, so when designing Pedro Fraley: Twenty four. Greg Straker: a project uh I also look at you uh Mael, Raymon Kim: Yeah. Greg Straker: keep in mind uh uh uh People uh want to get the feeling this is a twenty five Euro project uh pr um Raymon Kim: Per remote control, Greg Straker: product. Raymon Kim: yeah? Matthew Martin: Mm. Raymon Kim: Per project. Greg Straker: Yes. Okay. Um more interesting for our company of course, p uh profit aim, about fifty million Euro. So we have to sell uh quite a lot of this uh um things. Uh we will try to uh to get at a international market uh so um it will be I think mainly Europe and uh Northern America, Pedro Fraley: Ah yeah, the sale man, Greg Straker: maybe Pedro Fraley: four Greg Straker: some uh Pedro Fraley: million. Greg Straker: Asian countries. Um also important for you all is um the the product uh production cost must be maximal uh twelve uh twelve Euro Raymon Kim: So it's Greg Straker: and fifty cents. Raymon Kim: half of the selling price, if I am good in Greg Straker: Yes, Raymon Kim: mathematics. Greg Straker: of course. Uh um I mean we still have to uh to make a profit, huh? Raymon Kim: Of Pedro Fraley: They Raymon Kim: course. Pedro Fraley: have to sell Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: at least Greg Straker: You Pedro Fraley: four Greg Straker: all Pedro Fraley: million Greg Straker: have to be paid. Pedro Fraley: to make a profit Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: Ah Greg Straker: Excuse Pedro Fraley: we have Greg Straker: Matthew Martin? Pedro Fraley: to make we have to sell at least four million to make our own profit. Raymon Kim: Oh Pedro Fraley: Fifty Raymon Kim: you're g very Pedro Fraley: mill Raymon Kim: good in mathematics. Matthew Martin: Yes. Greg Straker: Yes, Raymon Kim: Four Greg Straker: indeed. Raymon Kim: million. Greg Straker: So uh Raymon Kim: Yeah. Greg Straker: well I think w when we are working on the international market, uh in principle it has enough customers uh so when we have a good product we uh we could uh meet this this aim, I think. So, that about finance. And uh now just let have some discussion about what is a good remote control and uh well keep in mind this this first point, it has to be original, it has to be trendy, it has to be user friendly. Um, maybe someone can mention some additional uh prerequisites for Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: a good remote control. Pedro Fraley: Of course it should have a on off button. Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: Yes, well i it should have the the the the expected functionality Matthew Martin: Mm. Greg Straker: uh of a remote control. Matthew Martin: Yeah. Pedro Fraley: Yeah, s and it depends what application you are using it for. Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: You might need uh Greg Straker: We wer we were thinking television. Uh. Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: We are targ targeting the television set. So, Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: you need to record the channels. Matthew Martin: Yeah. Greg Straker: Mm-hmm. Pedro Fraley: You need to browse the browse the channels in upward Greg Straker: Yes, Pedro Fraley: downward Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: way, Greg Straker: yes. Th th that's very handy I I always miss it and on Pedro Fraley: Uh Greg Straker: some remote controls that Pedro Fraley: And Greg Straker: you can go channel up or down ins instead of Matthew Martin: Mm. Greg Straker: retyping the number, especially Matthew Martin: Mm. Greg Straker: when you have a lot Pedro Fraley: Uh, Greg Straker: of channels. Pedro Fraley: and Raymon Kim: And uh just before starting the detailed discussion, maybe we You are the marketing guy? Or Matthew Martin: I'm marketing. Raymon Kim: th Pedro Fraley: Marketing. Raymon Kim: So you are the marketing. Matthew Martin: Yep. Raymon Kim: And you are in the u use user interface Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Raymon Kim: uh Greg Straker: Yes. Raymon Kim: design. So Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Raymon Kim: just yeah I wanted to to be sure. Pedro Fraley: Sure. Raymon Kim: And I I'm the Raymon Kim Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Kim: okay. Greg Straker: Yes. Raymon Kim: Because I Pedro Fraley: Oh. Raymon Kim: I don't know you very well, actually, Pedro Fraley: I'm Raymon Kim: but Pedro Fraley: Matthew. Raymon Kim: yeah. Okay. Pedro Fraley: You know. Raymon Kim: Mael. Pedro Fraley: Matth Raymon Kim: Happy to meet you. Pedro Fraley: s uh Matthew Martin: Anna. Raymon Kim: Okay. Pedro Fraley: Anna. Raymon Kim: It's very Pedro Fraley: And Greg Straker: A and Raymon Kim: uh Greg Straker: I'm Nanne. Pedro Fraley: um uh Matthew, yeah. I Greg Straker: So Pedro Fraley: thi Raymon Kim: Uh Pedro Fraley: think you know Raymon Kim: so Pedro Fraley: Matthew Martin, yeah? Raymon Kim: yeah Pedro Fraley: right Greg Straker: Yes. Pedro Fraley: yeah. Raymon Kim: uh Just uh on your web page but uh yeah not uh Greg Straker: So. Um Raymon Kim: not face to face. Greg Straker: S Pedro Fraley: So. Raymon Kim: So Greg Straker: S Raymon Kim: mm Greg Straker: s Matthew Martin: Mm. Greg Straker: Are Pedro Fraley: So Raymon Kim: So Greg Straker: there Raymon Kim: I Greg Straker: some other very important things to to do well, to specify in this first phase of of the project. So the browse function, Matthew Martin: Mm. Greg Straker: as you m Matthew Martin: Yeah. Greg Straker: mentioned. Pedro Fraley: And Matthew Martin: Oth Pedro Fraley: uh, Matthew Martin: yeah. Pedro Fraley: you'd need the usual ones, like the changing the volume, changing the the channel and then Greg Straker: Yes. Pedro Fraley: you Greg Straker: Yeah. Pedro Fraley: uh Today we have uh um teletext and all those things. Tomorrow you might have a some more functions which might come through that, Greg Straker: Yes. Matthew Martin: Mm. Raymon Kim: Like Pedro Fraley: so Raymon Kim: what? Like internet on Pedro Fraley: Yeah Raymon Kim: the Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: I_P_O_ Raymon Kim: on Pedro Fraley: or. Raymon Kim: T_V_? Pedro Fraley: Now we are looking for television things or I_P_. For Raymon Kim: Yeah. Pedro Fraley: example personal video recorder Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: and all those stuffs are coming up. Matthew Martin: But we can't really design Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Matthew Martin: for something that hasn't been invented yet. Pedro Fraley: Ah it's it's it's it's coming up, actually. The personal video recorder and all those Greg Straker: Mm, Pedro Fraley: things it is coming Greg Straker: well Pedro Fraley: up. Greg Straker: uh I I think Uh Raymon Kim: Actually, Greg Straker: w Raymon Kim: yeah Pedro Fraley: Let's Greg Straker: y Raymon Kim: w Pedro Fraley: Let's take Greg Straker: you two should should, I think, think this over uh w espec what, what functionality. Raymon Kim: Of course, and first before um designing the func well thinking about the functionalities, we need to know what are the user requirements. Matthew Martin: Mm. Yeah. Raymon Kim: Um Greg Straker: Mm-hmm. Raymon Kim: then Matthew Martin: Yeah. Raymon Kim: if they need internet, then we Matthew Martin: Mm. Raymon Kim: would be able to to p to propose something Matthew Martin: Yeah. Raymon Kim: with uh uh T_V_ over I_P_. But Matthew Martin: But Raymon Kim: before Matthew Martin: Ninety percent of the time, ninety nine percent of the time, people will be using the main functions, the volume, the different channels, so we can have all the fancy things as well but the main controls need to be very obvious and very easy Greg Straker: Mm Matthew Martin: to use. Greg Straker: mm mm. Keep k keep in mind i it's a it's a twenty five Euro unit, so uh uh the the very fancy stuff uh w we can leave that out, I think. So Matthew Martin: Mm. Greg Straker: twenty five Euro you expect a quite, well normal but Matthew Martin: Mm. Greg Straker: good functioning user friendly remote control. Pedro Fraley: Oh in that case you can you always hook up with uh someone who is providing that and you know, you you sell their product as well as your product with them, Matthew Martin: Mm. Pedro Fraley: you know. Raymon Kim: Yeah, Matthew Martin: So Raymon Kim: but Matthew Martin: try Raymon Kim: w Matthew Martin: and Raymon Kim: w Matthew Martin: get T_V_ Raymon Kim: we Matthew Martin: manufacturers Raymon Kim: want to design Matthew Martin: to Raymon Kim: a new one. Pedro Fraley: Yeah. No, it's okay, yeah I understand. Raymon Kim: Mm. Pedro Fraley: So we need Raymon Kim: Yeah. Pedro Fraley: some numbering buttons, some teletext things and then um Raymon Kim: The Yeah, the main is Greg Straker: Yes, but Raymon Kim: browsing. Greg Straker: but but ab Raymon Kim: Yeah. Greg Straker: about the spec the buttons, the Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Greg Straker: buttons uh that will be on it. I I think we can discuss that in the in the next meeting. Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Greg Straker: Uh I would like to get this wrapped up and go to an end of this meeting. Pedro Fraley: Okay. Greg Straker: So Pedro Fraley: Okay, we are alread mm. Raymon Kim: Okay. Greg Straker: So Pedro Fraley: Mm. Greg Straker: you know now the basic the basic things. Pedro Fraley: Yeah. Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: And well just Pedro Fraley: L Greg Straker: just for the next meeting, um well, uh, you wor yes, work on a design, keep it general, I mean so w we will be still fle flexible with maybe adding some functions. Raymon Kim: Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: So Um you will be working on on technical function design, so Pedro Fraley: Yeah, sure. Greg Straker: And uh you and you and uh uh uh well, think about requirements, eh? Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: Does it need internet, or or do do we stay at Pedro Fraley: Stam. Greg Straker: basic Matthew Martin: Yeah. Greg Straker: basic television uh interface. So, uh I think we should now all go work uh uh at this and uh Matthew Martin: Mm-hmm. Greg Straker: you will be informed via email and other kind of communication. Matthew Martin: Yeah. Pedro Fraley: Okay. Greg Straker: So Raymon Kim: Perfect. Greg Straker: next meeting will be in uh in thirty minutes uh. K keep it in mind.

The meeting begins with the group trying to resolve some equipment issues and waiting for Anna's arrival. Then Greg Straker introduces the meeting by saying they have some technical tools with which to communicate so they will try to get acquainted with them first. He starts talking about the product they are to design, a remote control which should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The general outline of the project will be the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. They do some tool training by trying out the whiteboard, and each person draws his/her favorite animal on it. Greg Straker proceeds to talk about the project finance, which is followed by a group discussion about what functions a good remote control has. This includes the basics such as on/off, channel up/down browsing, volume and record button(s). At this point they clarify their names and roles in the group and then resume talking about remote control functions. They discuss some functions such as a personal video recorder, but say it is probable that they cannot produce a fancy device given their budget. Greg Straker closes the meeting by telling each group member what he/she will be working on.

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Mark Moses: Okay everybody is ready? Good morning again So. today we are going to have a f second meeting. Oh Michael, David Valcourt: Yep. Mark Moses: hi. You're late. You have a good reason for that? David Valcourt: Yes. Mark Moses: Very good. Okay, let's have a look to the agenda today. So, we are going to have a meeting about the functional design. Um so first before starting I w just going to uh to go quickly to through the minutes of previous meeting. So uh we we are not decided if w we should go for a universal or specific uh uh remote control, but I have new um new i inputs for about that topics. I goin I'm going to share with you. And uh basically we decided to um to uh go to individual actions for each of you uh so um Industrial Designer should wor was supposed to work on th on th on the working design. William Garcia: Yep. Mark Moses: You showed us you ar you you prepare William Garcia: Yeah. Mark Moses: something for us? William Garcia: Yep. Mark Moses: The U_I_ guy also uh work on that, yeah, and for the mar David Valcourt: Mm. Mark Moses: our Marketing Expert should deliver some specs. Alright so so we are going to go through three of your individual presentations. But first I would like quickly to uh to decide of to give a name to the project. So, I just put d quickly Remo, but if you have any o other names that we co could decide for just to to keep something fun for our project we we should we could discuss quickly. Any ideas? William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: Uh the Powerstick Mark Moses: Powerstick, yeah. What else? What else? Micheal Barlow: Uh. David Valcourt: Maybe a Spanish name Micheal Barlow: Mm David Valcourt: would Micheal Barlow: I David Valcourt: work Micheal Barlow: was David Valcourt: well. Micheal Barlow: thinking David Valcourt: Especially Micheal Barlow: of David Valcourt: if we're selling Micheal Barlow: the David Valcourt: into the U_S_ market becasue there's a lot of Spanish speakers there. Maybe something that sounds cool in English but sounds funny in Spanish. Micheal Barlow: Mando. David Valcourt: Mando. What Mark Moses: Mango? David Valcourt: is that? Mark Moses: Mango? Micheal Barlow: Mando. Mark Moses: Mando. M_A_? M_A_? Micheal Barlow: A_N_ yeah D_O. Mark Moses: M_ D_O_. Mm, okay. Micheal Barlow: It doesn't it doesn't sound Mark Moses: What does it mean? Micheal Barlow: cool for Micheal Barlow, but Mark Moses: Oh. Micheal Barlow: maybe for a Spanish for I for David Valcourt: What does it mean in Spanish? Micheal Barlow: Control. David Valcourt: Control. Mark Moses: Hmm. David Valcourt: Okay. Mark Moses: Nice. David Valcourt: 'Cause it also like in English it sounds like you know the man's tool you know because you know Micheal Barlow: But David Valcourt: men Micheal Barlow: mm, David Valcourt: like to have control Micheal Barlow: yeah. David Valcourt: of the remote so it Micheal Barlow: Mando David Valcourt: might Micheal Barlow: sounds Latino. David Valcourt: The Mando. Mark Moses: Okay. So, let's go for Mando? Yeah? William Garcia: Yeah, Mark Moses: No objection? William Garcia: yeah. David Valcourt: Yeah that's. Mark Moses: Great. David Valcourt: And Mark Moses: So David Valcourt: we could have some like you d you could have the fonts you know special, so you have man in like in in uh in one o in one font and then the O_ as like Mark Moses: Okay, I think David Valcourt: Although Mark Moses: this David Valcourt: you don't Mark Moses: is David Valcourt: wanna cut uh cut women out of Mark Moses: Okay. David Valcourt: the uh potential buyers though, do you? So William Garcia: Yeah they are the most T_V_ watcher. So we should be careful. David Valcourt: Yeah. Mark Moses: Okay, I think this is more a question of Micheal Barlow: But yeah David Valcourt: Marketing. Mark Moses: of Micheal Barlow: it Mark Moses: I Micheal Barlow: uh Mark Moses: I think this is more a question of of look and feel. Something that should be addressed later. We should Micheal Barlow: Yeah Mark Moses: we should go to Micheal Barlow: because Mark Moses: other Micheal Barlow: if the product Mark Moses: for the other topics. Micheal Barlow: will be international David Valcourt: Well that's the thing. We need to know who we're selling it to before we can really decide on a Mark Moses: Yeah okay, so David Valcourt: Um. Mark Moses: let's stick f to Man Mando for the name and we'll see for the for the look and feel later. So let's go for the three presentations right now. So, who want to start? Micheal Barlow: Maybe Mark Moses: So Micheal Barlow: maybe Mark Moses: maybe Micheal Barlow: I Mark Moses: we Micheal Barlow: should Mark Moses: could Micheal Barlow: uh start. Mark Moses: start with the market, yeah. Micheal Barlow: Yeah. Mm. Okay. Mark Moses: Okay so I have your slides somewhere? Micheal Barlow: Yeah. Should be in participant four. Mark Moses: Participant four. Micheal Barlow: Yeah, Mark Moses: This one? Micheal Barlow: yeah. Micheal Barlow: Uh. Mark Moses: S that's coming. Uh David Valcourt: Yeah. William Garcia: Yep. Mark Moses: okay. Great. Micheal Barlow: Okay so yeah will I will give a brief outline about what I what I prepared for this meeting. Mark Moses: Mm-hmm. Micheal Barlow: For the functional requirements and especially for the for the user requirements. I prepare a marketing report and we have to find the weaknesses and and the the improvements we could do to the current remote controls. And also I di I did a study with for the incorporation of new technologies it seems that the remote controls have been have remained the same for the last five, ten years. There is no no significant difference between the the b the first new controls and Mark Moses: Okay. Micheal Barlow: Yeah. Mark Moses: Sh next slide? Okay. Micheal Barlow: Yeah. Well more most of the people think that remote controls are ugly, thoroughly. So and they they admit that the the they should uh s they would uh spend more money in a fancier remote control, which is which is good and it's interesting point. Also the people are worried about about the R_S_I_ disease, which is if you repeat the sa the same movement, which is not a with a not very appropriate device, you you will have problems whe when you will get old. So s people are uh are worried about the the shape of the of the remote control. They are also they get angry very often because they lost the remote control very often, so I think it would be a good point to to l to to find a a solution to any beep any alarm or something incorporated to with the remote control every time it it get lost. Mark Moses: Mm-hmm. Micheal Barlow: And also I found that young people the the younger people are the more interested they are in incorporating new technologies in the in the remote control. Mark Moses: Okay. Micheal Barlow: So in my opinion the Mando this Mando shouldn't be very small because the smaller it is, the more like the the liklier it is to get lost. Liklier or more likely? David Valcourt: More likely. Micheal Barlow: likely. Okay. Uh people also complain because they they they all have the same size of the buttons for buttons who w which are not very use like f uh memorising channels or or this kind of actions which are not very often but they they shouldn't they shouldn't have the same importance in the in the uh in the remote cont in the remote control. Also the z the design should fit the hand shape. So it may be interesting to to think in a in both prototypes, for right and left handed people. David Valcourt: Well th the on the thing is though, most remote controls are used by more than one person. So unless you're kind of targeting single people you know you're gonna maybe Micheal Barlow: Yeah. David Valcourt: cut out some a lot of your market. Micheal Barlow: I dunno I th Anyway I think it could be int interesting to to release some a a small fraction of William Garcia: Well Micheal Barlow: of William Garcia: maybe Micheal Barlow: this William Garcia: it could be a Micheal Barlow: remote William Garcia: universal Micheal Barlow: controls. William Garcia: design. Micheal Barlow: Sorry? William Garcia: A universal design, which is which is good for both the hands. Micheal Barlow: Yeah. David Valcourt: Still William Garcia: Yeah? David Valcourt: shaped for yeah for your hand but not for a particular William Garcia: That's right, David Valcourt: hand, Micheal Barlow: Yeah. David Valcourt: right? William Garcia: whether it's left hand or right hand, but but don't you think that the two points are clashing, one thing you are saying design should fit the hand shape and it should not be very small? Micheal Barlow: Sorry? William Garcia: The first and the third point, they are clashing. David Valcourt: Well it can still be a, you can still extend past Micheal Barlow: Yeah. David Valcourt: the hand. Mark Moses: Yeah. William Garcia: Okay. Micheal Barlow: Like David Valcourt: Uh. Micheal Barlow: uh William Garcia: So fitting the hand doesn't mean much then. David Valcourt: Well it means like, this remote here is kind of is very thin and long so instead William Garcia: Mm-hmm David Valcourt: of having William Garcia: mm-hmm. David Valcourt: you know you might have it kind of Micheal Barlow: Yeah, David Valcourt: a Micheal Barlow: like David Valcourt: bit bigger or, you know, with maybe some some William Garcia: Mm-hmm David Valcourt: finger William Garcia: mm-hmm David Valcourt: molds William Garcia: mm-hmm. David Valcourt: or something. William Garcia: So it means design should be similar to the traditional ones? Little sleek, longer? Micheal Barlow: No no William Garcia: And Micheal Barlow: I was William Garcia: it should Micheal Barlow: thinking William Garcia: fit Micheal Barlow: of William Garcia: the Micheal Barlow: so William Garcia: hand. Micheal Barlow: like Mark Moses: Something Micheal Barlow: something Mark Moses: with the shape of the palm? Micheal Barlow: yeah. William Garcia: Mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm. David Valcourt: Some Micheal Barlow: Yeah. David Valcourt: finger grips maybe. You could even have some buttons like you know Mark Moses: On Micheal Barlow: Yeah Mark Moses: the sides. Micheal Barlow: yeah. David Valcourt: on Micheal Barlow: It David Valcourt: the sides Micheal Barlow: sh it shouldn't David Valcourt: and everything, Micheal Barlow: it shouldn't David Valcourt: but Micheal Barlow: be symmetric symmetrical. William Garcia: Mm-hm Micheal Barlow: Not William Garcia: mm-hmm Micheal Barlow: anymore. William Garcia: mm-hmm. Micheal Barlow: That's what yeah. Mark Moses: And then finally Micheal Barlow: And finally, the incorporation of a L_C_D_ or a speech recognition system in the remote control could also be interesting, but I don't know if the budget would David Valcourt: Yeah. Micheal Barlow: be large Mark Moses: Yeah. Micheal Barlow: enough. Mark Moses: First I'm just wondering about the L_C_D_ stuff Micheal Barlow: But Mark Moses: because Micheal Barlow: most of Mark Moses: uh Micheal Barlow: yeah Mark Moses: because Micheal Barlow: most of the young people to thirty to thirty years old were really interested in this kind of technology. Mark Moses: Yeah, so maybe it's a good time for Micheal Barlow to uh to bring you to some new uh new informations. We had the new requirements from the so uh from the head offices of the company, and so they wanted so they want to um they would like to be restricted to T_V_. David Valcourt: Yeah. Mark Moses: Okay, I dunno if you had this information already. David Valcourt: No. Mark Moses: No, so they want us to restrict the remote control to T_V_ only because of time limitations. Um they want also Micheal Barlow: Actually Mark Moses: uh Micheal Barlow: this marketing report is restricted to T_V_ remote controls. Mark Moses: Excellent. So we have also to focus more on the internet aspects because well well te teletext is outdated now and uh finally, it should be clear that the corporate image, that means colours and logos of the co our company should be clearly inde identified in the product. So David Valcourt: I was still uh I was still working on this uh twenty five Euro price point because I think actually having looked at some of the remotes out there, this is quite a low uh price if if we're maybe I can get to this in my presentation though, but um Mark Moses: Yeah yeah. David Valcourt: yeah. Mark Moses: Sure sure. So maybe we can jump to your presentations, David Valcourt: Yep. Mark Moses: right David Valcourt: Okay. Mark Moses: now. Okay so let's keep in mind about tha that that this last point about L_C_D_ and speech uh David Valcourt: Yeah. I Mark Moses: reco David Valcourt: think even even if it was within budget do a speech reco rec system it might be a bit difficult because if you think if you're watching T_V_ you're gonna have a lot of this uh background noise from the T_V_ which might interfere with the Mark Moses: Sorry, what is your? David Valcourt: Uh participant three. You might have some background noise from the T_V_ which will make the speech recognition much uh Micheal Barlow: Yeah but you should David Valcourt: harder, Micheal Barlow: be able to David Valcourt: so. Micheal Barlow: activate or disactivate, so yeah David Valcourt: Oh you press Micheal Barlow: yeah. David Valcourt: a press a button to talk, and the Micheal Barlow: Yeah David Valcourt: the T_V_ Micheal Barlow: uh channel David Valcourt: the T_V_ Micheal Barlow: fifty. David Valcourt: sound turns off. Micheal Barlow: Yeah. William Garcia: No it could be command control kind of thing. It requir recognises particular sequence and then it gets activated. Means you say you should say like does that, remote control being on or be on kind of thing, and then remote control comes in the picture for the speech recognition. David Valcourt: Yeah. William Garcia: Because this kind of thing means speech is there from the T_V_ also. David Valcourt: Yeah. William Garcia: So there should be something command controlled, you start David Valcourt: Mm. William Garcia: and then you stop. David Valcourt: Yeah. William Garcia: It's like V_I_ editor, you are having two modes similarly. Otherwise it's just lying idle. Mark Moses: Okay Michael. David Valcourt: Okay, so, could I describe the mouse maybe be Mark Moses: Sorry? David Valcourt: easier to could I use the mouse, or Mark Moses: Um yeah. David Valcourt: Mm. Thanks. Okay. Mark Moses: The wheel doesn't work. David Valcourt: Great. Okay so um while uh researching this this topic I first of all just thought of a couple of things that I would like to see in a remote, and just uh looked to see if they're actually available in any current remotes, and then also searched for which are the top-rated uh remote controls on Epinions dot com, which is a a you know a a customer um written basically review site. So um there's a pretty wide range of uh remote controls these days and and uh this remote control on the right here is is one of the more extravagant, but it's not really it's by no means uh mm you know on it's own in being so expensive. There are a lot of expensive remote controls out there. Mark Moses: Looks like a P_D_A_? David Valcourt: So yeah it doe it's well basically all the functions uh are controlled through through the L_C_D_ screen except for the really really kind of main functions, which have a couple of of their own buttons. Um and if you look at a lot of the universal remotes out um on the market, I know we're working on television remote, but a lot of the universal remotes out there have uh have these L_C_D_ screens which kind of helps when you're using multiple uh devices I suppose because you can have multiple kind of functions d different functions on the screen at different times. But um the thing that I find most interesting about this remote control, and it's kind of difficult to uh to see in the slide, but it has a scroll wheel on it, which is kind of like uh a mouse scroll wheel, which I think is it's a really kind of important design aspect um is it's 'Cause the thing is what a what we the presen this presentation we had is what we want the remote control to actually do. And obviously the the simplest thing that a remote control does is it just change William Garcia: Change David Valcourt: the William Garcia: the channels. David Valcourt: change the channel. William Garcia: Yeah. David Valcourt: Now um uh the I think that a scroll wheel is actually pretty a pretty handy way of of changing the channel. 'Cause I know when I um when I use the remote to change the channel I very rarely use the numbers on the on the William Garcia: Mmm-hmm David Valcourt: pad. I usually William Garcia: mm-hmm. David Valcourt: use the up and down William Garcia: Yeah yeah. David Valcourt: a special button to enter a two-digit number, and then two numbers, so that's just uh it's annoying. So I think a scroll wheel is is quite handy. Now um the the scroll wheel is is much more useful if you have an L_C_D_ screen, and this brings us to the the point you were mentioning before about the internet uh capability. Mark Moses: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: One possibility, if we now we need to still talk about the price point because obviously a lot of this stuff can't be done for twenty five Eu uh Euro, but one possibility is to download program information into the L_C_D_ screen so that instead of actually saying I want to I want to go to channel thirty seven because I know this programme's on, you know, often you don't know what ch what channel it's on, or you don't know what's on. If you have a list of of programs on your L_C_D_ screen you just scroll to that program rather than to a channel. So if you think about it's kind of like a you know in mobile phones now you don't use you don't remember people's phone number, you remember their name and you go find that name and ring it. So this would be pretty kind of a handy thing to have, but um we we really need t to discuss the price. So, I mean there are there are uh cheaper this is another multi kinda purpose remote control where it's it's it's very simple, there's only a few buttons, but al each of those buttons does something different in a different context. So this is something else we might wanna consider, is really kind of limiting the number of buttons, because this is the top rating uh universal remote control on on Epinions. It it's really uh maybe worth thinking about limiting the number of buttons as much as as possible um because really I think people want to be able to find the button they're looking for without even looking at the remote control. And was saying before about having different size buttons for different you know frequently used uh tasks, but I think also you know the location and and shape of the buttons is important, but also the number of buttons. So if you have too many buttons it it it increases the the difficulty of finding William Garcia: But David Valcourt: the one William Garcia: there David Valcourt: you William Garcia: is David Valcourt: want. William Garcia: one David Valcourt: So William Garcia: problem then the user has to understand each of that functionality. Mark Moses: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: Yeah well William Garcia: Because David Valcourt: we w William Garcia: the same button is doing too many things. David Valcourt: Yeah well we will have a bit of a simpler uh task in that we're only doing uh a television remote control. Um I think maybe one option is to have you know a little flip-open um door that uh that you have hidden most of the time, but contains the extra buttons like, say, the number buttons for instance. William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: Um I I would if I had my perfect remote control, I'd probably just have no numbers at all on it because William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: they're just in the way. They don't really do anything. Maybe you know I although I do also find flip-open doors a bit of a pain because sometimes they can break off or or whatever, but maybe a door that you can you can permanantly remove or permanantly William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: have on would be good. Um but I think definitely you need to to keep the buttons down to a minimum, but not not let that kind of interfere with the functionality of of the device. Um Micheal Barlow: H I think I think that the tr the transition to this to this new remote control shouldn't be very very abrupt very hard because w if people see a remo see the see a remote control without numbers mm they will think it's very difficult to learn very difficult to William Garcia: It does Micheal Barlow: very William Garcia: sampling Micheal Barlow: different William Garcia: out of Micheal Barlow: build very William Garcia: the. Micheal Barlow: different to David Valcourt: Well I guess Micheal Barlow: the traditional David Valcourt: that depends on how you market it. If you if you have the right advertisement showing how how Micheal Barlow: If David Valcourt: how easy Micheal Barlow: y David Valcourt: it is and how you can, you know, navigate to a program without the numbers, then people might say that looks pretty easy. Mark Moses: Okay, David Valcourt: So, Mark Moses: can David Valcourt: but Mark Moses: you continue, David Valcourt: yep. Mark Moses: please Mi? David Valcourt: Um okay, so, I think um one of the really kind of useful things you can do with with internet connectivity would be to have this a programme driven interface rather than the channel number. So if we can have a higher priced uh remote control I think that would really be worth uh something that would be worth implementing. Um mm there's the L_C_D_ screen, um which maybe maybe is too expensive, um but I think also at the scroll wheel, I haven't mentioned it here, the scroll wheel could be used without an L_C_D_ screen, just for changing channel numbers easily. I think even that, I mean, that would be a fairly cheap thing, compared to an L_C_D_ screen, Mark Moses: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: to implement, um but I think that would be quite useful as well. And the other thing, you say we need to we need to keep it just television, but I think one maybe one option, since this is supposed to be a kind of a fashionable device, is you know there's a certain kind of cool or wow factor that you can kind of you can have with technology, and maybe we wanna make it something that's extensible to do other tasks. Say you have like um a little another little kind of base unit that can also receive signals as well as the television where you can, say uh, change the lighting in the room. You know that would be something maybe you could sell as an extra, so that it doesn't have to be part of the initial development, but, you know, later on you could you can you know you also, selling the potential of the device. Then you say potentially you can then do other cool stuff like change the lights, I dunno, close the windows, whatever, turn the heating on, and um, I think that's something we may need to have as as at least as an optional extra to to kinda make our product Mark Moses: Okay. David Valcourt: cool, since we say we're putting the fashion in electronics. Mark Moses: Okay. Okay, thanks. William Garcia: Yep. Mark Moses: you William Garcia: So Mark Moses: want to go? William Garcia: yeah. So most of the things which we are discussing about is speech recognition uh, that means Mark Moses: This William Garcia: on Mark Moses: one? William Garcia: my own I yeah, it should be. Mark Moses: Great. No, not that one. you are two. William Garcia: Two. Mark Moses: Alright. William Garcia: Okay so the working design is uh user i interface could be of two types, one is the usual press buttons which are there so that the user feels that he is knoing doing some he is knowing about that technology. So he is pretty comfortable if he wants to get this, and on top of that there there could be a speech recognition technology also being sitting on the on the remote. So the old kind of users who don't want to have any changes, it can it can be useful for them, and the new users, as uh our Marketing Expert was saying, they can use the new gizmo which is speech recognition kind of thing. Mark Moses: Okay, sorry to interrupt you, but we have seen before that there is a new way of interacting that use wheel. William Garcia: That's right. So anyway, that didn't come into my mind, Mark Moses: Okay. William Garcia: so th that is a possibility. These could be other kind of interfaces. Means we can have, depending on the cost, how much we can afford, we can have different kind of interfaces. So spe buttons are something which is very everybody is familiar with. So if you go to the market and you say that buttons are there the people know what it is, Mark Moses: Mm-hmm. William Garcia: and on top of that if we are having extra functionality people are willing to shell that twenty-five Euros money which we are thinking. Otherwise we are just like others in the market. So anyway that is the first, user interface could be of more than one type, and uh yeah that means we can do the on-line changes which which cannot be done now actually. So apart from the speech, we can have the scroll kind of thing with the buttons. Now for buttons, normal requirements like bit coding and all those things are required. And for voice, limited vocabulary automatic speech recognition system is required and we require a microphone also to be sitting there on the remote. Mark Moses: Yeah. That increases the the cost also. William Garcia: Uh that's right. But uh means we have to see how much what kind of microphones and stuff like that. Mark Moses: Do you think that performance of such systems are enough to to target well of such technologies is enough? William Garcia: Uh yes, if it is limited vocabulary usually it's enough. Mark Moses: Okay. William Garcia: Yeah we we can uh target, means we can target ninety five percent accuracy or somewhere ninety Mark Moses: Well William Garcia: seven Mark Moses: wh William Garcia: perc Mark Moses: uh I imagine David Valcourt: Hmm. Mark Moses: also that the microphone will be an ambiance um a um an ambience microphones William Garcia: That's Mark Moses: because William Garcia: right. Mark Moses: you are not going to speak into William Garcia: No Mark Moses: into William Garcia: it Mark Moses: th William Garcia: it could Mark Moses: into William Garcia: be Mark Moses: the remote William Garcia: little Mark Moses: control. William Garcia: d yeah Mark Moses: So William Garcia: it Mark Moses: it William Garcia: could Mark Moses: could William Garcia: be Mark Moses: be s a few centimetres. William Garcia: That's right. David Valcourt: Well William Garcia: That's David Valcourt: one William Garcia: right. David Valcourt: one other thing that that speech recognition could really blow out the price for is uh when you want to sell into other markets, though, because, I'm not sure exactly where we're gonna sell this, but I presume it's not gonna just be English speaking countries. Mark Moses: Yeah. David Valcourt: So William Garcia: Mm-hmm David Valcourt: then you have William Garcia: mm-hmm. David Valcourt: to s you know, you have to train models for William Garcia: Uh it's more like, means there are different speech technologies which are existing so D_T_W_ could be kind of which is the easiest. So you have to store some templates on the on the on the chip itself, and it's just dynamic time warping where you try to find out what it is, instead of having David Valcourt: Yeah. William Garcia: a model which has to Mark Moses: Okay. William Garcia: be trained and being a micro-controller. Mark Moses: Okay we shou we should discuss this William Garcia: Yeah, Mark Moses: la later William Garcia: that's right. Mark Moses: after after after this William Garcia: Yeah. Mark Moses: this uh slide. William Garcia: So Mark Moses: This William Garcia: we Mark Moses: is William Garcia: can Mark Moses: a this is a this is a a very important uh issue William Garcia: That's Mark Moses: in William Garcia: right. Mark Moses: discussion. William Garcia: Yep. Mark Moses: Okay, next. William Garcia: Yep. Mark Moses: Uh that finished? William Garcia: No no. Components. Mark Moses: No? Components? William Garcia: Yeah. So, will you go to the next slide? Mark Moses: Yes sure. William Garcia: Yeah so this is the design which we are thinking so. We are having a power button and the switch, which is not much, and then we are having the which is to indicate whether the power is on or not. And then there are two kind of things which can be so one is the button interface which has not been shown because because of lack of time. So we could not put that. So now where the A_S_R_ decoder is sitting, similarly there are different kind of interfaces which could be there. there, and then there could be another scroll button scroll scroller, and then there could be buttons, and all of them they will just do the decoding and put it in the math put it in the proper message format. And then there is there is the chip which is sitting, the green one, and it converts it into bit codes, and that bit codes are sent by the infrared device to the receiver. Mark Moses: Okay. William Garcia: So this is the easiest design the there could be. So th an A_S_R_ decoder we can have things in. To have different technologies. So this was the my personal preference was that we can have A_S_R_ sitting there on the remote control. David Valcourt: You William Garcia: Yeah. David Valcourt: know I guess you could actually train the remote control as you're using it by saying you know turn volume up, and you press the uh press the button like uh s people teach sign language to kids f well, William Garcia: Yeah but David Valcourt: by William Garcia: uh David Valcourt: speaking and William Garcia: as soon David Valcourt: doing William Garcia: as you try to put the microchip kind of thing or something the price will go up. David Valcourt: Yeah. William Garcia: So these Mark Moses: Okay. William Garcia: are the slight problems. Mark Moses: So your your opinion is that we should go for special William Garcia: Because Mark Moses: condition technologies? William Garcia: yeah the reason is that if we go into the market means though I don't have much idea, but as he the uh Marketing Expert presentation Micheal Barlow: I'm sure William Garcia: was Micheal Barlow: if you can sell a a speech recognition remote control for twenty five Euros everyo everyone will s will buy it. William Garcia: So if David Valcourt: Actually William Garcia: we go David Valcourt: I'm William Garcia: with David Valcourt: not William Garcia: just David Valcourt: so sure William Garcia: the Micheal Barlow: I'm David Valcourt: because Micheal Barlow: sure. David Valcourt: I'm the you know if I was using a remote control to, say, turn the volume up because I can't hear it very well, I don't really want to you know drown out what people are saying by talking you know when I'm when I'm instead of pressing up on on a remote control. You know if there's some there's some dialogue all of a sudden that I can't hear, Mark Moses: Yeah. David Valcourt: I'm trying to actually find out what's being said, so maybe speech recognition gets in the way more than it helps. Mark Moses: Okay so Micheal Barlow: Yeah but you know the the average frequency of pushing buttons, it's about David Valcourt: Well it depends if it's a remote control Micheal Barlow: it's about David Valcourt: th Micheal Barlow: eighty eighty eighty pushes per hour, or something like that. David Valcourt: Maybe if the remote control is something that y you don't actually have to pick up anymore, that would be a a useful feature of the speech recogntion. If you can William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: leave it sitting William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: on the table and William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: you don't actually have William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: to find William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: it, then William Garcia: Mm-hmm. David Valcourt: that could be. Mark Moses: have to take some deci decisions right now. William Garcia: Alright. Mark Moses: Um so if I if I kind of summarise everything we've de we we said. We are targeting T_V_. We need we need to have um um remote control which is fanc fancy, which is uh which is easy to to hand not too small, not too big. Um we have Micheal Barlow: With a good shape for Mark Moses: or Micheal Barlow: the Mark Moses: good shape, yes. We should bring new technologies for young peoples, and uh as we have uh also requirements to to use uh to to push thr toward the internet. Maybe this is something we can stick to it. And um also, a very interesting things I I I've seen on on on the one of the comp o our competitor is this wheel that we can use to navigate. So so my feeling is that re regarding costs budget we have an an an target price, it's not possible to go s to go to L_C_D_ and also to go to automatic speech recognition technologies. Uh first m m why not to go to L_C_D_. Because um in fact as we are targeting uh T_V_ in fact we can use T_V_ screen as a screen to feedback to to give some feedback informations about what David Valcourt: Well it depends Mark Moses: we could David Valcourt: though Mark Moses: have. David Valcourt: well it depends. If we we don't unless we have some input some video input to the T_V_ or we have control over the T_V_ then we can't actually display that. Like if we if we produce the T_V_s then then yeah we can put you know menus up up there, but otherwise we need to actually have some kind of something sitting in between the video signal and the and the T_V_ to superimpose those those menus. So that's an extra Mark Moses: Yeah that's right. Don David Valcourt: cost. Mark Moses: don't you ha don't we have contacts with uh people on T_V_ or or well systems that exist that we David Valcourt: Well this is Mark Moses: can use? David Valcourt: this is another que we still haven't really defined the remote. Are we still you say we're focusing on T_V_, but is it still a kind of like a universal remote in that it's a replacement remote control, or Mark Moses: Yeah. David Valcourt: is this something for our own line of of televisions? 'Cause that really makes a big difference. 'Cause even if we have contacts we can't really produce a remote control that can bring up menus on other other companies' T_V_s. It's just there are too many T_V_s out there. Mark Moses: Yeah. David Valcourt: It's it's not really Mark Moses: That's David Valcourt: gonna Mark Moses: good point. What's what cou what could be the cost of uh well, could we fit the the targets uh in terms of cost uh if we go s to L_C_D_ on the remote control? David Valcourt: For twenty five Euro? Mark Moses: Yeah. William Garcia: It's David Valcourt: I think William Garcia: not David Valcourt: it's William Garcia: possible. David Valcourt: impossible. William Garcia: It's impossible. David Valcourt: But Micheal Barlow: Yeah. David Valcourt: but I dunno, I think um it would be good to know if there is any leverage in that any leeway in that um that twenty five Euro because for twenty five Euro I think all we can really do is provide a very basic remote control, and that seems to be kind of against the philosophy of our company which is you know putting the fashion into electronics. So I would I would like to know if there's any chance of of increasing the uh Micheal Barlow: Uh David Valcourt: of increasing the unit price. Micheal Barlow: What would Mark Moses: So Micheal Barlow: be Mark Moses: you mean yo you mean we we should target something maybe which is which would be more expensive David Valcourt: Yeah. Mark Moses: but re really fancy in David Valcourt: Yeah. Mark Moses: terms to um in terms to had to have really an added value? David Valcourt: Yeah because Mark Moses: Okay, David Valcourt: yeah. Mark Moses: so regarding the automatic Micheal Barlow: Wha Mark Moses: speech recognition, I think Micheal Barlow: but Mark Moses: this is Micheal Barlow: what would be one question, what would be the goal of putting an L_C_D_ in a remote control? David Valcourt: Well Micheal Barlow: What David Valcourt: th Micheal Barlow: what kind of information? David Valcourt: 'Cause you can have things like the programme name instead of the channel numbers, like Micheal Barlow: Yeah David Valcourt: an interactive Micheal Barlow: but mo David Valcourt: programme Micheal Barlow: most of the David Valcourt: guide. Micheal Barlow: T_V_s nowadays Mark Moses: They Micheal Barlow: show Mark Moses: have tele Micheal Barlow: the Mark Moses: teletext. Micheal Barlow: show the Mark Moses: Well, because they have teletext Micheal Barlow: the n Mark Moses: on it. Th th you have a teletext sin signal that you can that you can uh Micheal Barlow: Yeah Mark Moses: that you Micheal Barlow: but Mark Moses: can get thr Micheal Barlow: yeah Mark Moses: through Micheal Barlow: most Mark Moses: the channel. Micheal Barlow: of the T_V_s have teletext nowadays. Mark Moses: They have t most of them have Micheal Barlow: Yeah. Mark Moses: teletext, but we want to get rid well one of our requirements is to uh to move to teletext to uh to the use of internet. So to to uh David Valcourt: You can get a lot more information Mark Moses: to browse more easily David Valcourt: on Mark Moses: the teletext. David Valcourt: it. Mark Moses: For instance through uh through your remote control. Micheal Barlow: So what would what would appear in the in the L_C_D_? David Valcourt: So you could have the name of the programme, you could have um Mark Moses: The ti David Valcourt: the start time Mark Moses: the start David Valcourt: you know Mark Moses: time, David Valcourt: where it's Mark Moses: all David Valcourt: up Mark Moses: the David Valcourt: to. Mark Moses: p all the programmes you could have uh David Valcourt: You could have a l even Mark Moses: o David Valcourt: a little image of you know the c Micheal Barlow: Okay. David Valcourt: you know the the m the main actors or something so you can quickly just kind of even without Mark Moses: Well David Valcourt: reading Mark Moses: I don't know if this information is available from teletext, also. David Valcourt: Well no, but there are the electronic programme guides out William Garcia: Are David Valcourt: there. They may not have pictures, but maybe they do. There's dependi it also Mark Moses: Well because David Valcourt: depends on the country. Mark Moses: for the same reason that we cannot uh informations on the T_V_. We c we couldn't grab information information which is not there. David Valcourt: No but I mean with the internet you have flexibility of where you get your information from. So it may be possible that there are Mark Moses: So David Valcourt: people out there providing that. Mark Moses: so that mean Micheal Barlow: But Mark Moses: w David Valcourt: Uh. Mark Moses: w we need an in an extra internet connection to use the remote control, if you want to browse, Micheal Barlow: Yeah. Mark Moses: in addition to the T_V_, or uh or it should be a special T_V_ connected David Valcourt: Well Mark Moses: to David Valcourt: I I think if we're gonna I think we would definitely need the internet connection because even with y I don't think you could even get teletext information from the T_V_ onto the remote control, especially if we don't control the T_V_. I dunno. We need to find that out. Mark Moses: Okay. We need to close the meeting. Um so William Garcia: But just a small thing, what Mark Moses: Very William Garcia: kind Mark Moses: quickly. William Garcia: of market we are targeting? Is it that we are targeting the replacement remote market, or what? So the remote has gone bad and the person wants to buy a new remote or because the cost of L_C_D_ thing could be as high as the T_V_ itself. That is very Mark Moses: No. William Garcia: important. David Valcourt: Mm. If Mark Moses: Yeah, David Valcourt: it's a really small T_V_ Mark Moses: well David Valcourt: maybe. Mark Moses: people go to buy another remote control when they broke William Garcia: Broke. Mark Moses: n William Garcia: Okay. Mark Moses: broke William Garcia: Okay. Mark Moses: their, and they want to go t for universal William Garcia: Okay. Mark Moses: one, and William Garcia: Okay. Mark Moses: they take the fanciest they can William Garcia: Okay. Mark Moses: have. William Garcia: Okay. Mark Moses: So this is that we z that that we should target. So the com the um the uh the committment is the following, we don't go for speech recognition technology. William Garcia: Mm-hmm. Mark Moses: The L_C_D_ is still on disc is still open to discussion. It is up to you to go through this um uh this way and to to report report Micheal Barlow back next meeting. So Micheal Barlow: I think that the speech recognition technology would William Garcia: It's Micheal Barlow: be cheaper William Garcia: it's cheaper Micheal Barlow: the William Garcia: as compared Micheal Barlow: than William Garcia: to Micheal Barlow: the William Garcia: the L_C_D_. Micheal Barlow: L_C_D_. Mark Moses: Yeah, but not sure. Maybe it's cheaper, but we have no Micheal Barlow: Because with the L_C_D_ you need more requirements. You need a internet connection. You need m more things. But for the speech David Valcourt: Well Micheal Barlow: recognition David Valcourt: the thing Micheal Barlow: you David Valcourt: is Micheal Barlow: you David Valcourt: I think Micheal Barlow: don't need David Valcourt: I Micheal Barlow: anything. David Valcourt: think the type of peop Micheal Barlow: channel fifty, and that's it. David Valcourt: I think the type of people that are gonna want to buy a very stylish rem r remote control with lots of new technologies are the kinda people that are gonna have you know a wireless internet connection maybe, or a Micheal Barlow: But then David Valcourt: you know. Micheal Barlow: we should move to another target b because William Garcia: Means Micheal Barlow: at twenty William Garcia: th Micheal Barlow: five William Garcia: yeah Micheal Barlow: Dollars, David Valcourt: Well this Micheal Barlow: it's David Valcourt: is what William Garcia: twenty David Valcourt: we need William Garcia: five David Valcourt: to find William Garcia: Euros David Valcourt: out. Can William Garcia: is David Valcourt: we William Garcia: yeah, David Valcourt: can William Garcia: that's David Valcourt: we William Garcia: right. David Valcourt: increase the the price point of this remote control? 'Cause otherwise we need Mark Moses: Okay this is this is an open question for you. Yeah. This is uh up to you to tell us. But I'm definitely not keen on Micheal Barlow: To move to another target? Mark Moses: to to no no no, I'm no I'm definit definitely not keen on going to speech recognition technologies. I'm not confident enough. I'm not sure that that we'll have a product really that work. I uh that work David Valcourt: It's kind of hard to guarantee Mark Moses: It's David Valcourt: that Mark Moses: real David Valcourt: you're gonna Mark Moses: yeah. How to guarantee such performances is really hard. Micheal Barlow: the expert uh said ninety five percent. David Valcourt: Ninety Mark Moses: Well this David Valcourt: five Mark Moses: is still David Valcourt: percent is not good enough Mark Moses: is David Valcourt: though. Mark Moses: is very bad. So, this is the end of this discussion. Next meeting uh here are the task you have to work on. Um so you have to work on the component uh concept. William Garcia: Okay. Mark Moses: Uh you have to work on user interface, and you have to go through a trend watching. Okay. So the question is still open about the L_C_D_ thing. Um uh we I hope that next meeting we will uh we'll take some um decision that direction. Thanks. David Valcourt: Yep. Mark Moses: Bye.

Mark Moses opens the meeting stating that they will address the functional design of the remote and saying they are still undecided about whether it should be universal or specific. He suggests they name the project and they come up with "mando", meaning "control" in Spanish. Micheal Barlow presents some research done on user opinions of remotes. He suggests the use of using voice recognition or an LCD, which they discuss despite concerns about budget limitation. William Garcia presents, showing examples of existing products and suggesting they add a scroll wheel for channel-changing. He says Internet capability might be necessary for an LCD and then brings up button size, suggesting having a flip-open door with extra buttons under it. They discuss voice recognition again, and then the interface specialist presents. He suggests they have two types of user interfaces and brings up that voice recognition would increase production price. They talk about the budget limitations on features and then Mark Moses summarizes decisios made and closes the meeting by teeling each group member what he should work on.

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Norman Wilson: Okay. Good afternoon again. So we should have our final meeting about the detail designed of detail design of the of the remote Um So here is the agenda for today. Uh uh just going to go quickly through the minutes of the last last uh meeting then we have a p presentation of prototype of you two, sounds interesting. And we'll have um presentation of evaluation crit criteria by ou our Marketing Experts. we'll to finance evaluation the of the cost of the thing and um hopefully uh we should fit the target o tw of twelve point five uh uh Euro. Okay. So let's go. Uh if I go quickly through the minutes of the last meeting. So we went through th uh w we took this following decisions. No L_C_D_, no speech recognition technology, okay, we went through a b to a banana look and feel for the remote control. We went through the use of wheels and but buttons. And also the use of a basis station for battery ch charging and uh also to um call the to call the mot mote remote control when it is lost. Okay. Um. Good. So guys let this uh wonderful thing. Howard Taylor: Okay so we can go to the slides. Norman Wilson: Oh yeah. Sorry. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: Um. Howard Taylor: Number three. Oh number two sorry. Norman Wilson: Which is Howard Taylor: So final design. Final design. Okay so Michael you can go ahead. Jerald Spellman: Yeah so uh following our decision to uh make a yellow well to make a banana Norman Wilson: Yeah can you show it to the the Jerald Spellman: remote Norman Wilson: camera maybe. Jerald Spellman: okay so we actually have a Howard Taylor: You can pull it out first, Jerald Spellman: We've Howard Taylor: maybe. Jerald Spellman: well first first of all we made a an attractive base station uh with a banana leaf uh Norman Wilson: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: look and feel um and uh bana sit the banana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over and um this is the remote itself, it's kind of it's it's ergonomic, it fits in the hand uh rather well. We've the two uh uh scroll wheels here which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one on the right for for the channel and uh underneath we have the uh the turbo button which is in like a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally. Norman Wilson: What's the use uh of the t turbo button already? Jerald Spellman: This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you Norman Wilson: Ah yeah yeah Jerald Spellman: quickly Norman Wilson: an then you Jerald Spellman: rather Norman Wilson: stop Jerald Spellman: th Norman Wilson: when you stop it stops. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops. But Howard Taylor: Uh Jerald Spellman: normally with uh it will just uh s stay on each station briefly so you can see Norman Wilson: Uh-huh. Jerald Spellman: the Howard Taylor: And Jerald Spellman: the Howard Taylor: we Jerald Spellman: picture. Howard Taylor: we do have one more functionality. If you take the banana as such and uh you press the turbo button, so it switch ons the switch ons the T_V_. Jerald Spellman: The T_V_ yeah. Norman Wilson: Which one? Jerald Spellman: The s the Howard Taylor: The Jerald Spellman: turbo Howard Taylor: turbo button. Jerald Spellman: button. So Norman Wilson: Okay. Jerald Spellman: rather than having uh Howard Taylor: Additional Jerald Spellman: an extra Howard Taylor: button. Jerald Spellman: button for um for the on off switch you just use the turbo button. Stanley Cruz: What this button for? Jerald Spellman: This is a teletext button. Stanley Cruz: Okay. Jerald Spellman: So once you press that then you get teletext and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel as uh Norman Wilson: To navigate Stanley Cruz: But if Jerald Spellman: To navigate Norman Wilson: it through Howard Taylor: That's right, Jerald Spellman: yeah. Norman Wilson: th through Stanley Cruz: you Howard Taylor: that's Norman Wilson: teletext. Howard Taylor: right. Stanley Cruz: want to go to page seven hundred? Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Norman Wilson: with Stanley Cruz: How man Norman Wilson: the wheel it's easy. Jerald Spellman: Well then you can you you have like a little uh number selection thing, you press the the the teletext button uh to move between uh the fields and then you can just scroll the number back and forth so you have s you go you scroll to seven and then zero zero and then you can uh Stanley Cruz: I don't understand it. Can you repeat it? Jerald Spellman: Well you can you can press press the teletext button Stanley Cruz: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: and then Howard Taylor: then Jerald Spellman: you then you Howard Taylor: then Jerald Spellman: can Howard Taylor: both Jerald Spellman: you can Howard Taylor: scroll Jerald Spellman: f Howard Taylor: buttons they are for teletext browsing. And you can tele Stanley Cruz: Ah okay okay. Howard Taylor: yeah, once Stanley Cruz: Okay. Howard Taylor: you Jerald Spellman: Mm Howard Taylor: press Stanley Cruz: Okay Howard Taylor: the teletext Stanley Cruz: okay. Jerald Spellman: uh Howard Taylor: button then the scroll buttons Stanley Cruz: Okay. Howard Taylor: they are more for teletext, they are no more for channel or vol volume. Stanley Cruz: I see. I see. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: Okay. Okay. Jerald Spellman: And this is the uh the infrared uh port. Howard Taylor: That's right. Jerald Spellman: Also the top of the banana. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: Excellent. Jerald Spellman: So. And then we have in the uh in the base station we have the the button at the front for uh Norman Wilson: Calling. Jerald Spellman: for calling the uh the banana. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: Excellent. And the the leaves plays the roles of of antennas? Jerald Spellman: Actually they do. That's Norman Wilson: Oh. Jerald Spellman: that's yeah that's uh that's Howard Taylor: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: form and function in the one in the one Howard Taylor: So it Jerald Spellman: uh Howard Taylor: always Jerald Spellman: object. Howard Taylor: means, whatever the rays goes by they they get reflected and then you are having a better coverage. It's like antennas. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. So. But yeah that's um that's just like that's an attractive um base station. Norman Wilson: Great. Jerald Spellman: So. Okay. Norman Wilson: So, what else? Howard Taylor: And for the power source we are having solar cells and rechargeable batteries and this and uh the basis station is going to have the input from the mm power line for for charging the batteries. Stanley Cruz: Is it really weight? Is it light or Howard Taylor: It is very light. Norman Wilson: Yeah, Stanley Cruz: Okay. Norman Wilson: they're Jerald Spellman: It's Norman Wilson: light. Jerald Spellman: it's uh it's about the weight of a banana. Stanley Cruz: Okay. Jerald Spellman: You know, to give you the correct look and feel. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: Ok Howard Taylor: And we have put these different colours so that people don't mistake them mistake it as a banana. Stanley Cruz: Okay. Howard Taylor: Otherwise it's you know Stanley Cruz: Yeah yeah yeah, I Howard Taylor: a Stanley Cruz: see. Howard Taylor: child comes Stanley Cruz: I under Howard Taylor: and Stanley Cruz: I understand. Howard Taylor: so Jerald Spellman: I think a child would try to eat it anyway, so maybe Howard Taylor: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: we should consider that. maybe health and safety aspects. Norman Wilson: Ah yeah. Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Oh we didn't think of that yet. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: So for the power source, apparently you still you you want to use both solar cells and Howard Taylor: Oh Norman Wilson: batteries. Howard Taylor: yeah that's right. Norman Wilson: Uh you mean okay. So Jerald Spellman: I don't really know if the solar cells are actually necessary Norman Wilson: Yeah, Jerald Spellman: any more Norman Wilson: where Jerald Spellman: if you have Norman Wilson: are Jerald Spellman: a Norman Wilson: going Jerald Spellman: recharging Norman Wilson: to Jerald Spellman: base station. Norman Wilson: where are Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm Norman Wilson: you are Howard Taylor: mm-hmm. Norman Wilson: you going to place them? Howard Taylor: It'll It'll be always at top somewhere at there. Jerald Spellman: If I was gonna place them I'd put them on the on the top here since that's like Norman Wilson: You have enough Jerald Spellman: uh the Norman Wilson: surface? Jerald Spellman: black bit Norman Wilson: You Jerald Spellman: but yeah I don't I really don't think it's necessary to have the solar cells Howard Taylor: Yeah because Jerald Spellman: anymore. Howard Taylor: now we are having rechargeable batteries Norman Wilson: Okay. Howard Taylor: so Jerald Spellman: Mm. Howard Taylor: that that Norman Wilson: What Howard Taylor: is. Norman Wilson: will be the autonomy? Roughly? Jerald Spellman: The what sorry? Norman Wilson: The autonomy. Autonomy. Jerald Spellman: What do you mean? Norman Wilson: Uh Stanley Cruz: How long Norman Wilson: I Stanley Cruz: the Norman Wilson: mean how Stanley Cruz: how long Norman Wilson: long does i Stanley Cruz: the Norman Wilson: how Stanley Cruz: bit Norman Wilson: how Stanley Cruz: the Jerald Spellman: Ah. Stanley Cruz: batteries Norman Wilson: how long can Stanley Cruz: long. Norman Wilson: it be held off Jerald Spellman: Ah. Norman Wilson: a station? Jerald Spellman: A long time. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Howard Taylor: Eight Norman Wilson: A long Howard Taylor: to ten eight to ten hours. Jerald Spellman: No no no, it can it should Howard Taylor: N Jerald Spellman: be Howard Taylor: most Jerald Spellman: weeks. Howard Taylor: no most of the time it's not being used. Norman Wilson: Yeah, so it's Jerald Spellman: Yeah Howard Taylor: So when Jerald Spellman: but y Howard Taylor: when Jerald Spellman: people Howard Taylor: you are Jerald Spellman: don't Howard Taylor: making Jerald Spellman: like Howard Taylor: it Jerald Spellman: to put Howard Taylor: on Jerald Spellman: it Norman Wilson: It's Jerald Spellman: back in Norman Wilson: used Jerald Spellman: the base Norman Wilson: only Jerald Spellman: station Norman Wilson: when you Jerald Spellman: all the time people Howard Taylor: Mm. Jerald Spellman: leave wanna leave it on the couch so Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. No eight or eight or ten hours of working. If Jerald Spellman: Ah, Howard Taylor: you are just Jerald Spellman: okay. Howard Taylor: leaving like that it'll Jerald Spellman: Okay. Howard Taylor: be much longer. Norman Wilson: Yeah. F weeks. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Howard Taylor: That's right. Norman Wilson: Right. Next slide? Howard Taylor: Yeah. And we are having the speakers regular chip for control. Pricing is was a factor so that's why we have gone for a regular chip only not the advanced chip. And uh that's it. Norman Wilson: Okay. Okay. Those really Howard Taylor: That's right. Norman Wilson: sounds very good. Nothing else to add? Jerald Spellman: It seems to be falling Stanley Cruz: l Jerald Spellman: over. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: yeah. I like I like it. Maybe the the thing that convince Stanley Cruz the less is the the multifunctional buttons. Looks a bit Howard Taylor: You want to have more functional buttons? Stanley Cruz: Looks a bit puzzled uh I dunno how to say that. You the Howard Taylor: You are Stanley Cruz: the Howard Taylor: not Stanley Cruz: b Howard Taylor: convinced. Stanley Cruz: the buttons change h h their function depending if Howard Taylor: Not Stanley Cruz: y it's Howard Taylor: not Stanley Cruz: teletext Howard Taylor: many, we Stanley Cruz: or not Howard Taylor: we want to keep it simple. So that this button fo is for teletext which is usually also the case, that usually there is a teletext button and once you press that, the channel buttons, they baco become the scrolling buttons. Stanley Cruz: And the volume button will will become Howard Taylor: It's up to you, means. Now that Norman Wilson: Well in fact b both will be could be useful, navigating Howard Taylor: Means Norman Wilson: through Howard Taylor: let's Norman Wilson: teletext. Howard Taylor: say this this can move the the larger digits and this can move the smaller digits. Jerald Spellman: Or can move between positions Howard Taylor: That's Jerald Spellman: in Howard Taylor: right. Jerald Spellman: the in the number. Stanley Cruz: And Norman Wilson: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: what about people who want to use digits? Butto real buttons? Norman Wilson: Wow. Howard Taylor: Yeah. So there was there was a constraint that the surface area which we have on this banana on one side because of the shape. So we are targeting a segment which is which is just very trendy kind of thing, they they don't care about the buttons any more. Stanley Cruz: Okay. Howard Taylor: And anyway Stanley Cruz: Because have you thought about configuration and all this kind of uh stuff? Jerald Spellman: It's all automatic. Stanley Cruz: It's all automatic. Jerald Spellman: Yep. Stanley Cruz: Okay. Okay yeah Norman Wilson: Very Stanley Cruz: it's fine. Norman Wilson: good Stanley Cruz: W Norman Wilson: uh yeah Stanley Cruz: we are living in a Norman Wilson: you Stanley Cruz: wonderful Norman Wilson: th Stanley Cruz: world. Norman Wilson: yeah. Jerald Spellman: Uh. Norman Wilson: Bananas everywhere. Okay, so Stanley Cruz: Automatically configure. Norman Wilson: So we have to go through now Howard Taylor: Evalua Norman Wilson: evaluations. Howard Taylor: yeah. Stanley Cruz: Yeah. Norman Wilson: So Stanley Cruz: S Norman Wilson: your slides are ready? Uh you're four Stanley Cruz: Yeah. Norman Wilson: I think. So this is one, which one is this one? Stanley Cruz: Yeah. Okay. I I const I constructed a a list of criteria based on the on the general user requirements. And each criteria is will be evaluated it's uh logical criteria so we must users must say i if it's true or is or if it's false in a in a scale ranging from zero to seven. Howard Taylor: Why this strange factor of seven? Stanley Cruz: Because i I'm sorry. Sorry. Howard Taylor: Usually I Stanley Cruz: Ah Howard Taylor: have Stanley Cruz: yeah. Howard Taylor: seen Stanley Cruz: It's Howard Taylor: that Stanley Cruz: from Howard Taylor: scales Stanley Cruz: sorry, Howard Taylor: are from Stanley Cruz: it's Howard Taylor: one Stanley Cruz: from Howard Taylor: to ten. Stanley Cruz: one to seven. It's from from one to seven sorry. Because it should be an even it Howard Taylor: Okay. Stanley Cruz: should be an even Norman Wilson: Num Howard Taylor: Okay. Stanley Cruz: uh Norman Wilson: number Stanley Cruz: scale, Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Stanley Cruz: and five is too short and nine is too long. Howard Taylor: Okay. Okay fine, got Stanley Cruz: I'm Howard Taylor: the idea. Stanley Cruz: a I Norman Wilson: So to Stanley Cruz: I'm Norman Wilson: have in order to have enough granularity Stanley Cruz: Sorry? Norman Wilson: it's in order to have enough granularity Stanley Cruz: Yeah yeah. Norman Wilson: in the evaluation. Howard Taylor: Okay. Stanley Cruz: The variance is mi it's Norman Wilson: Okay. Howard Taylor: Okay, Stanley Cruz: is minimal. Howard Taylor: okay, great. Stanley Cruz: I'm um answering your question. Howard Taylor: Okay. Stanley Cruz: Okay. Howard Taylor: Yeah yeah. Go ahead. Stanley Cruz: And that's the criteria I I found more useful. I think I sh I I could write the criteria in the on the whiteboard? Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Sure. Stanley Cruz: And we all four could range Howard Taylor: Okay. Yeah Stanley Cruz: could evaluate the Howard Taylor: yeah. Yeah. Norman Wilson: Okay. Howard Taylor: So you can say fancy, handy. Howard Taylor: Handy. Stanley Cruz: Okay let's let's evaluate if it's fancy or Howard Taylor: Yeah, it's fancy, according to Stanley Cruz. Stanley Cruz: Seven but Norman Wilson: Yeah, six. Howard Taylor: Seven. Norman Wilson: S seven. Howard Taylor: Seven by Stanley Cruz. Norman Wilson: Six. Stanley Cruz: I would say seven. Howard Taylor: Okay. Stanley Cruz: It's quite fancy. Howard Taylor: So you can add seven plus six plus seven plus Norman Wilson: No, wait. Jerald Spellman: Yeah uh five. Norman Wilson: What do you say seven? Howard Taylor: Five. Norman Wilson: Five? Jerald Spellman: Five, maybe maybe maybe six it's it's I guess Norman Wilson: Okay, six Jerald Spellman: it's Norman Wilson: point five. Jerald Spellman: yeah. Norman Wilson: Handy? Howard Taylor: Again I'll give seven. Norman Wilson: Seven. Jerald Spellman: I'd give it a six like Stanley Cruz: Six. Jerald Spellman: I'd I think it's probably more handy than my current remote, Howard Taylor: Yep. Jerald Spellman: 'cause of the scroll wheels but maybe loses the point for not having you know the extra buttons when you reall if you do need them for some reason but you know you can always use your other remote. Norman Wilson: So seven, Howard Taylor: Seven Norman Wilson: seven, Howard Taylor: for Stanley Cruz. Norman Wilson: six, Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: Six. Norman Wilson: six point five. Functional. Howard Taylor: I'll give five. Norman Wilson: Four. Stanley Cruz: I would say Jerald Spellman: Well it depends when you say functional, do you mean it does what we want it to do, or d does what it does, you know, Stanley Cruz: Everything Jerald Spellman: can it make Stanley Cruz: ar Jerald Spellman: you coffee? You know. Stanley Cruz: Mm everything Norman Wilson: Uh for a remote control, does he have all the Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Yeah. Norman Wilson: you Stanley Cruz: It's Norman Wilson: could Stanley Cruz: compared Norman Wilson: expect. Stanley Cruz: to the all Howard Taylor: That's right. Stanley Cruz: remote controls. Howard Taylor: That's Jerald Spellman: That's before Howard Taylor: right. The standards. What is available in the market off the shelf. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. I have to say four. Stanley Cruz: Actually I don't know what are the r the real specification of a of a universal Jerald Spellman: Well it's not a Stanley Cruz: remote Jerald Spellman: universal Stanley Cruz: contro Jerald Spellman: remote. Remember Howard Taylor: We Stanley Cruz: Ah it's Jerald Spellman: we're focus Stanley Cruz: not an univer Jerald Spellman: we're supposed Stanley Cruz: but it's Jerald Spellman: to focus Stanley Cruz: for all Jerald Spellman: just Stanley Cruz: kind Jerald Spellman: on T_V_s. Stanley Cruz: of T_V_s? Norman Wilson: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: Well all T_V_s but only T_ only T_V_s I guess. Norman Wilson: So it's universal but for T_V_s. Stanley Cruz: Yeah. Norman Wilson: So s uh four? Howard Taylor: Five. Norman Wilson: Five? Jerald Spellman: Four. Norman Wilson: Four. Stanley Cruz: Four. Four. Howard Taylor: So four point two? Jerald Spellman: Just four. Norman Wilson: Four. Howard Taylor: four. Stanley Cruz: So Jerald Spellman: Obviously Stanley Cruz: four? Jerald Spellman: there are some outliers so Norman Wilson: Okay cool? Cool device. Howard Taylor: There I'll give it seven. Stanley Cruz: It means cool features, like new features actually. Howard Taylor: That's right. Jerald Spellman: Which Howard Taylor: For a T_V_ the most important feature which I felt was the locator which is a cool feature. And then the scroll buttons are again cool features. We don't have L_C_D_ for it but that we decided we don't want to have. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Seven. Stanley Cruz: I would say five. Jerald Spellman: I'll say five. Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Norman Wilson: Six. Howard Taylor: Seven. Norman Wilson: Plus six, Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Norman Wilson: I say I said seven. So it's Jerald Spellman: S Stanley Cruz: You Norman Wilson: six. Stanley Cruz: said seven? Norman Wilson: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: yeah. 'Cause it's five five seven seven so Howard Taylor: Okay. Jerald Spellman: Uh, okay, definitely easy Howard Taylor: Definitely Jerald Spellman: to use. Howard Taylor: seven. Jerald Spellman: Seven. Norman Wilson: Seven. Seven. And you? Stanley Cruz: Five. Norman Wilson: Outl you are not lik outlier. Seven Stanley Cruz: Sorry, Howard Taylor: Okay. Stanley Cruz: I have Norman Wilson: Okay Stanley Cruz: them Norman Wilson: okay okay okay. Jerald Spellman: Alright, now here's the sixty million Dollar question, well, twenty five twenty five Euro question. Norman Wilson: Of course I'll buy the banana. Jerald Spellman: What do you what do you guys reckon? Howard Taylor: I'll Stanley Cruz: Of Howard Taylor: say Norman Wilson: Well Stanley Cruz: cour Howard Taylor: five. Stanley Cruz: Of course the most difficult question for the end. Howard Taylor: I'll Jerald Spellman: Hmm. Howard Taylor: say five. Norman Wilson: Twenty five Euros. Stanley Cruz: I find it quite cheap actually. I dunno. If i i it depends, Norman Wilson: Cheap. Stanley Cruz: if you live in in Switzerland or you live in Norman Wilson: Yeah, so the target price is for all Europe, or only for rich countries? It's more targeting U_K_ or Stanley Cruz: I don't know. Wha the initial specifications were for the whole all Europe or Norman Wilson: So this is Jerald Spellman: Uh Norman Wilson: selling costs, not production costs. Stanley Cruz: Yeah this Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: is the the Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: initial specifications. Norman Wilson: Yeah yeah sure. Um Five. Stanley Cruz: I would say six. It's quite cheap actually. Jerald Spellman: I'd say two. Howard Taylor: Why? Jerald Spellman: I don't want a banana on my living room table, a Norman Wilson: Aw, Jerald Spellman: banana remote. Norman Wilson: should Howard Taylor: No Norman Wilson: be nice Howard Taylor: but it's Norman Wilson: in Howard Taylor: really Norman Wilson: your Howard Taylor: handy actually if you see. Jerald Spellman: It Howard Taylor: It's Jerald Spellman: is handy, Howard Taylor: it's so handy. Jerald Spellman: it's Howard Taylor: And Jerald Spellman: handy, Howard Taylor: then Jerald Spellman: but it it's terrible. Howard Taylor: Anyb anybody Norman Wilson: It's Howard Taylor: who Norman Wilson: kitsch. Howard Taylor: comes Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Howard Taylor: here anybody who comes to your home he'll at least ask once what is this. Jerald Spellman: Yeah, but it's not a positive thing. Howard Taylor: It's a very positive thing Jerald Spellman: Well, Howard Taylor: if Jerald Spellman: you Howard Taylor: you see Jerald Spellman: know, Howard Taylor: like that. Jerald Spellman: it's it's handy, Norman Wilson: Well, Jerald Spellman: it's ergonomic, Norman Wilson: don't forget Jerald Spellman: but Norman Wilson: well, Jerald Spellman: it's a banana. Norman Wilson: don't for don't forget who we're targeting also who are f f who are Howard Taylor: Youngsters. Stanley Cruz: Actually Norman Wilson: wh yeah, Stanley Cruz: maybe Norman Wilson: youngst youngst Jerald Spellman: so. Norman Wilson: No well yeah I if Stanley Cruz: Yeah Norman Wilson: you would be young. Not telling that you are young. Li li like a teenager for instance. Jerald Spellman: No, it's I. Norman Wilson: Okay Jerald Spellman: I would buy Norman Wilson: you're you're crazy teenager and you like fun Howard Taylor: You want Norman Wilson: things. Howard Taylor: to flaunt. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Howard Taylor: You with your girlfriend or something. Norman Wilson: Yeah, you want to show the beautiful banana Jerald Spellman: S Norman Wilson: you have. Howard Taylor: Or might Jerald Spellman: s Howard Taylor: be it does some other kind of thing but Jerald Spellman: Still I I'd say two. I don't think I at any stage in my life I would want a banana remote control, really. Howard Taylor: Uh yeah, crazy. Norman Wilson: Okay so Jerald Spellman: I can Norman Wilson: you Jerald Spellman: say, Norman Wilson: s you Jerald Spellman: maybe Norman Wilson: give Jerald Spellman: there is a market Norman Wilson: oh Jerald Spellman: for it, Norman Wilson: yeah Jerald Spellman: I dunno. Norman Wilson: yeah I know I know. So you say two. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Howard Taylor: I say five. Norman Wilson: F I d I say five. You say? Stanley Cruz: I change the question. Norman Wilson: So what's Howard Taylor: And Norman Wilson: the Howard Taylor: you Norman Wilson: new Howard Taylor: have saved Norman Wilson: question? Howard Taylor: it? Stanley Cruz: So yeah upload the Howard Taylor: You'll have to reload. Norman Wilson: Uh yeah, I think so. Jerald Spellman: Okay, so, it depends if uh Stanley Cruz: Yeah it's two different situations. If you really need an universal remote control or if you would change your remote control for a n for a new one. Norman Wilson: Yeah that's two Jerald Spellman: If Norman Wilson: different Jerald Spellman: I had Norman Wilson: question. Jerald Spellman: t if I had to spend twenty five Euro, if that was like my limit, maybe I would buy it. Because the other twenty five Euro remote controls are probably gonna look Howard Taylor: They're not Norman Wilson: Ugly. Jerald Spellman: worse Howard Taylor: going to be Jerald Spellman: than Howard Taylor: as Jerald Spellman: a banana. Howard Taylor: And they they might not be a as easy as Jerald Spellman: And Howard Taylor: this Jerald Spellman: it yeah Howard Taylor: yeah. Jerald Spellman: this is gonna f you know handy to use. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: So? What Howard Taylor: S Stanley Cruz: now? Norman Wilson: I stick Stanley Cruz: What Norman Wilson: to five. Stanley Cruz: range? Howard Taylor: I go Jerald Spellman: Although Howard Taylor: slightly Jerald Spellman: it still Howard Taylor: up. Jerald Spellman: has Howard Taylor: Six. Jerald Spellman: it still Stanley Cruz: Six. Jerald Spellman: has the word of course at the beginning so I dunno. Um. Norman Wilson: W we have six, Jerald Spellman: I'd Norman Wilson: five Jerald Spellman: give it I'd give it a Norman Wilson: Three Jerald Spellman: I give it a four now. Norman Wilson: So we are Stanley Cruz: Six? Six? Howard Taylor: Six, Norman Wilson: six, Howard Taylor: five, Norman Wilson: five, Howard Taylor: four. Norman Wilson: four Stanley Cruz: Six, so it's uh five point five, or less. Norman Wilson: Yeah. So Howard Taylor: Okay. Norman Wilson: So and last question, will I change my rem change my remote control from Mando banana. Um, zero. No uh we can't. So one. Stanley Cruz: Actually yeah, I we Norman Wilson: Well if. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Norman Wilson: let's say I'll put two. Jerald Spellman: I'd say three, I mean my remote control is kinda at home is pretty terrible. If it was change my remote control of my D_V_D_ player for a Mando banana then I would be more inclined to Norman Wilson: It's for the T_V_. Jerald Spellman: but uh 'cause it's really bad but uh I'd say a three. Howard Taylor: I'll still give it five. Stanley Cruz: Five? Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: Two three Stanley Cruz: You Norman Wilson: five Stanley Cruz: are romantic, really. I Norman Wilson: two Stanley Cruz: would Norman Wilson: three Stanley Cruz: say two. Norman Wilson: fi and two. Howard Taylor: So Norman Wilson: So Howard Taylor: it's Norman Wilson: it's Howard Taylor: somewhere Norman Wilson: r Howard Taylor: three point five I Norman Wilson: Yeah, Howard Taylor: think. Norman Wilson: three point five. Stanley Cruz: Who is the outlier? Wh wh you said five? Howard Taylor: No Norman Wilson: No Howard Taylor: I said Norman Wilson: no Howard Taylor: five. Norman Wilson: you say five, he is the outlier. Okay just just do a sum. Stanley Cruz: I don't know if it's a Jerald Spellman: It's not very promising but you know we're Stanley Cruz: No Jerald Spellman: not young trendsetters. Stanley Cruz: because there are more yeah, we shouldn't sum like that. Norman Wilson: Well maybe we should we should uh have Stanley Cruz: Because Norman Wilson: a look globally Stanley Cruz: the the Norman Wilson: glob Stanley Cruz: last two questions is much more important than the rest actually. Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Stanley Cruz: Otherwise we wouldn't Jerald Spellman: Is Stanley Cruz: we will Jerald Spellman: there some Stanley Cruz: not sell. Jerald Spellman: some formula you're using that says you have to sum them up? Stanley Cruz: Uh no I didn't anything. Jerald Spellman: Well just leave it at that then. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Howard Taylor: Oops. Stanley Cruz: Yeah, the Norman Wilson: So maybe Stanley Cruz: uh Norman Wilson: maybe w we can we should stick to general feeling. Stanley Cruz: Yeah. Norman Wilson: We can had uh have a out of these numbers, which which is that well we should go for it. Stanley Cruz: Do Norman Wilson: Problem Stanley Cruz: you want Stanley Cruz Norman Wilson: with Stanley Cruz: to sum Norman Wilson: connectors? Stanley Cruz: o I think Jerald Spellman: No. Stanley Cruz: it's not Jerald Spellman: I think it it Howard Taylor: Yeah Jerald Spellman: kind Howard Taylor: it's Jerald Spellman: of Howard Taylor: it's Jerald Spellman: you just Howard Taylor: funny. Jerald Spellman: lose information if you sum it, Norman Wilson: Okay. Jerald Spellman: so. Norman Wilson: So let's move uh let's move on. Howard Taylor: Yeah, sure. Norman Wilson: Okay, now now we have to mm to estimate uh the cost okay. So I prepare an Excel sh uh an Excel sheet. Um well we are going to calculate the production costs. We should we should be below twelve point five. So I already uh put some pu some numbers here, okay. We are going to go through so this is the number the mm number of components we need for this thing. So it appears that there were things that we didn't thought about. Uh and also things that I uh I d I forget to uh to put like solar cells. Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: Well we decided against the solar cells so Norman Wilson: Oh Howard Taylor: Solar cells, Norman Wilson: yeah finally Howard Taylor: yeah yeah Norman Wilson: we say Howard Taylor: yeah Norman Wilson: no. Howard Taylor: yeah yeah, Norman Wilson: Okay Howard Taylor: we said no to Norman Wilson: so Howard Taylor: that. Norman Wilson: let's let's go let's go let go through all the lines. So hand dynamo. This something we didn't thought about. But Jerald Spellman: You mean, charging it by shaking the banana. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Howard Taylor: I think rechargeable batteries will take care of the power thing. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Howard Taylor: Yeah. bring Norman Wilson: Okay Howard Taylor: the cost Norman Wilson: so we we stick to battery, one. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: No kinetic also. I don't I don't see the difference between kinetic and dynamo. Jerald Spellman: Well maybe dynamo is like you have to actually Norman Wilson: Ah you have to ah okay I see so kinetic is Stanley Cruz: S Norman Wilson: really uh shaking the banana. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: Crazy. Okay. So those banana is falling. Let's go ahead. So Howard Taylor: Okay. Norman Wilson: we we st only have one for battery. Uh then for electronics um so I didn't put anything for the. Howard Taylor: So we have the regular chip on the print, Norman Wilson: Yeah. Howard Taylor: which is one. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Howard Taylor: And that's it. Norman Wilson: Okay. No so we hin Howard Taylor: And we have sample speaker. Norman Wilson: Yeah so Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: one. Howard Taylor: Yeah. the cost of that is very high. Norman Wilson: Ooh ye ye ye the cost is increasing. Jerald Spellman: Well Norman Wilson: So we Jerald Spellman: actually Norman Wilson: are Jerald Spellman: that that no that sample speaker is not we we're not using that, we're just using the Norman Wilson: The beep. Jerald Spellman: the very beep simple beep, that Howard Taylor: Uh-huh. Jerald Spellman: s that sample thing is Norman Wilson: That's Jerald Spellman: like Norman Wilson: what Jerald Spellman: the voice recording and Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: everything. Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Norman Wilson: Okay so Jerald Spellman: So Norman Wilson: I'll remove it. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. I Norman Wilson: S Jerald Spellman: say that Yeah. Howard Taylor: And we have Norman Wilson: So Howard Taylor: sev Norman Wilson: don't we need a Oh there is no listing for r radio frequency thing. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: So Howard Taylor: So we we'll put some extras, if there is Norman Wilson: Yeah Howard Taylor: something. Norman Wilson: maybe. We'll see Jerald Spellman: Mm. Norman Wilson: later. Okay so in for the case um I put single curved. Howard Taylor: Okay. To reduce the cost, it's okay. Jerald Spellman: Well, wait a second, Norman Wilson: Because we Jerald Spellman: no, Norman Wilson: have two Jerald Spellman: it's Norman Wilson: things. Jerald Spellman: it's double curved, it's got a c, Howard Taylor: Oh Jerald Spellman: it's Howard Taylor: it's Jerald Spellman: uh Norman Wilson: No. Howard Taylor: got all the directions so don't worry. Jerald Spellman: Well d yeah it's monotonic but Howard Taylor: It's got a direction. Jerald Spellman: it's got but if you hold it if you hold it that way that's two curved, one on this side, one on that side, but they're opposite Norman Wilson: Well. Jerald Spellman: sides. Stanley Cruz: Actually Norman Wilson: What a Stanley Cruz: what's Norman Wilson: what Jerald Spellman: This Stanley Cruz: the differen Jerald Spellman: is actually Norman Wilson: i Jerald Spellman: I mean Norman Wilson: if Jerald Spellman: this probably Norman Wilson: I put one here. Jerald Spellman: this probably actually costs more than three Norman Wilson: Yeah Jerald Spellman: if Norman Wilson: so Jerald Spellman: you Norman Wilson: let's put one here in the then Howard Taylor: Okay. Norman Wilson: instead of Howard Taylor: Okay. Norman Wilson: single oka all right. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Norman Wilson: So we stick to plastic, it cost Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: nothing. Howard Taylor: That's right. Jerald Spellman: Well no didn't we say we wanted to do a rubber Norman Wilson: No, it's too no. Jerald Spellman: if you drop it? Stanley Cruz: Too Norman Wilson: It's Stanley Cruz: expensive. Norman Wilson: too expensive. Jerald Spellman: Well when Norman Wilson: We're Jerald Spellman: okay. Norman Wilson: already at Jerald Spellman: Well Norman Wilson: eleven. Jerald Spellman: we we'll come back we'll come back and see if we can fit it in. Norman Wilson: Okay so I put rubber one. Okay so special colour, yellow. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Norman Wilson: Uh for the interface we have Howard Taylor: We don't have any push buttons. Jerald Spellman: No, we have two push buttons. Norman Wilson: We have three. Howard Taylor: No that is a scroll wheel itself, Jerald Spellman: Huh. Howard Taylor: it'll be put in that. Norman Wilson: No no. We have Howard Taylor: Ah Norman Wilson: two scroll, Howard Taylor: okay, okay. Norman Wilson: and Jerald Spellman: Uh. Norman Wilson: we have three push buttons. Howard Taylor: Okay, okay. Stanley Cruz: Actually Jerald Spellman: Okay Norman Wilson: And Stanley Cruz: whe Jerald Spellman: it's gonna Stanley Cruz: whe Jerald Spellman: have to be plastic. Stanley Cruz: when you wrote regular chip you should put two, because there is another chip here. Norman Wilson: No it's no chip. This is just radio frequency. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: Th This Stanley Cruz: Yeah Norman Wilson: is Stanley Cruz: but Norman Wilson: no chip. Howard Taylor: No. Stanley Cruz: you Howard Taylor: There's Stanley Cruz: need Howard Taylor: no chip there. It just emits the signal. Norman Wilson: It's just Howard Taylor: And the receiver accepts it and Norman Wilson: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: Fo Howard Taylor: that's Stanley Cruz: i Howard Taylor: it. Stanley Cruz: it does nothing actually? Norman Wilson: No. Howard Taylor: Just Norman Wilson: Just Howard Taylor: se sends the signal, Norman Wilson: only. Howard Taylor: that's it. Jerald Spellman: It's a recharger thing and uh Norman Wilson: Okay w we didn't think a thought about uh integrated scroll wheel push buttons. Jerald Spellman: Well I actually did um think about it myself but I thought you know because you could potentially you know you could be pushing it down as you scroll it for a instead of a turbo Norman Wilson: Yeah, Jerald Spellman: button but you know the turbo Norman Wilson: so Jerald Spellman: button does add that extra class. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: You know. So I mean if we're if we're over budget then maybe we could we could rethink that. Norman Wilson: Okay. So no L_C_D_, so for we have no button supplements, Howard Taylor: Yep. Norman Wilson: right? Howard Taylor: No. Norman Wilson: Uh well in fact could we could not we consider this button as a button supplement because oh no, these are these are for colours, co and special forms, special Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Norman Wilson: colours and special materials. Jerald Spellman: No we're not we Norman Wilson: So Jerald Spellman: don't need anything special for Norman Wilson: Okay Jerald Spellman: the buttons. Norman Wilson: so we are over budget. Howard Taylor: Yeah. So first thing which we should take care of is, Jerald Spellman: Make it Howard Taylor: instead Jerald Spellman: plastic Howard Taylor: of Jerald Spellman: instead Howard Taylor: rubber, Jerald Spellman: of rubber. Howard Taylor: let Norman Wilson: Yeah. Howard Taylor: it be plastic. Jerald Spellman: And then we're basically o on budget except for you know ten cents. Howard Taylor: And uh that much money will be required for the base station, which is not there. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Norman Wilson: So mayb in fact n we have to put two here because it cost nothing. Jerald Spellman: Yeah well Howard Taylor: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: pl the base station is made Howard Taylor: That's Jerald Spellman: out Howard Taylor: right. Jerald Spellman: of m many Howard Taylor: So Jerald Spellman: units of plastic. Howard Taylor: might be ninety centimes for the the remaining things which the cord and everything Norman Wilson: Exactly Howard Taylor: which'll go Norman Wilson: exactly so we have margin for that stuff. Howard Taylor: That's right. Jerald Spellman: Does that include charging circuitry and everything? Norman Wilson: Yeah maybe. Okay good. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Norman Wilson: Wha Excellent. Jerald Spellman: So what do we do with the extra profits? Norman Wilson: Um we'll invest in R_ and D_. Jerald Spellman: Okay. The next fruit. Norman Wilson: Yeah. So well we're under the the the cost. So we can go to through to project evaluation. Stanley Cruz: Okay so now we have a product which nobody would would buy. Would yeah, would buy. Norman Wilson: Sorry? Jerald Spellman: No we have Stanley Cruz: Yeah Jerald Spellman: a product Stanley Cruz: because Jerald Spellman: which none of us would Stanley Cruz: th Jerald Spellman: buy. Stanley Cruz: th the evaluation Norman Wilson: Which is Stanley Cruz: project Norman Wilson: different. Which is different. None of us will buy it. Jerald Spellman: No it's people in in in Milan and uh in Paris Stanley Cruz: Ah would buy, Jerald Spellman: that Stanley Cruz: yeah. Jerald Spellman: are gonna buy it. Stanley Cruz: Massively, Jerald Spellman: We're n Stanley Cruz: yeah. Jerald Spellman: yeah. We're not in Milan or Paris. Stanley Cruz: Yeah. Okay. Uh you have been in Milan a couple of times, so. Jerald Spellman: Actually Norman Wilson: This Jerald Spellman: there Norman Wilson: is Jerald Spellman: were a lot Norman Wilson: a Jerald Spellman: of Norman Wilson: battery. Stanley Cruz: And you said the lowest. Norman Wilson: This is Howard Taylor: S Norman Wilson: what we which you can mm Howard Taylor: Detachable battery. Jerald Spellman: That's 'cause I'm Norman Wilson: It Jerald Spellman: sick Norman Wilson: did Jerald Spellman: of Norman Wilson: yeah. Stanley Cruz: Yeah, for Jerald Spellman: Milan. Stanley Cruz: the batteries Norman Wilson: Extra battery, yeah. Exac Jerald Spellman: Okay so um project process. Norman Wilson: Well in fact I I did not know I didn't know really what to say here. If uh if you have any ideas of what we can we can say. So I don't I don't I don't understand what what they mean by satisfaction um and for and for example. Should it be more like um like a status of of the these meetings in fact. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Norman Wilson: Yeah well in fact uh we we use a little bit the white board and the digital pen, not that much. Jerald Spellman: I dunno I think we had a fair bit of creativity. Norman Wilson: Oh yeah it's really creative. Jerald Spellman: And uh but I think one thing we m missed out of this whole process was a um like a focus group with the actual people we're targeting. We needed some of these kind of young trendsetters Norman Wilson: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: to come in and play with the banana and you know see if they Howard Taylor: They like that. Jerald Spellman: see if they like it. Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Norman Wilson: Yeah maybe we should go through, yeah an uh evaluation. Jerald Spellman: Because yeah the evaluation for us is is kind of Howard Taylor: Biased. Jerald Spellman: pointless. Norman Wilson: So maybe you should we should do a kinda evaluation in the streets like asking to young peoples well, do you like Jerald Spellman: Yeah. Norman Wilson: to have a banana as a remote control. Jerald Spellman: Because Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: it it would also be interesting to uh you to know find out if we have a market in really young children as well, to see you know how to how to market this thing. Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Jerald Spellman: 'Cause you know if well I mean maybe you don't wanna give all your kids their own remote because they'll be changing the channel all the time but you know maybe in some households where there is you know a T_V_ for each kid, then you know, banana remote control could be fun for them as well. Might Norman Wilson: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: have to draw a face on it. So but I think that's something we need to to work on next time is really finding out more about the target market. Norman Wilson: Yep. Any any new ideas we could uh we could investigate next time? Dunno, oranges? Howard Taylor: Yeah. The cost of the thing can be made more than might be. Because I think it's just the optimal, what we have done for the cost which we are looking forward to. Jerald Spellman: Yeah. I think there are ways we could maybe simplify the Howard Taylor: Interface. Jerald Spellman: Well Stanley Cruz: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: just the the the circuit board that we're using inside, I'm Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: not sure really how complicated our um our needs are. I mean all we have is two push buttons and two scrollers, do we really need an integrated circuit to Norman Wilson: Hmm. Jerald Spellman: you Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: know to process Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: that. Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Stanley Cruz: So more general remote control instead of just focusing on uh on T_V_. Howard Taylor: That's Stanley Cruz: The complexity Howard Taylor: right. Stanley Cruz: shouldn't be much higher. Howard Taylor: Yeah. Stanley Cruz: For you said if it good for D_V_D_ then I Jerald Spellman: And Stanley Cruz: would Jerald Spellman: also fo you know for mood lighting and and stuff, that would be rather cool. I think that's actually something that should be in version two, is the ability to you know to control Howard Taylor: Integrate. Jerald Spellman: things other than the T_V_ and not just electronic equipment but you Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: know the whole environment of the room. Norman Wilson: Okay. Very good. Howard Taylor: So Norman Wilson: So Howard Taylor: What else? Norman Wilson: Well done. I Howard Taylor: Okay. Norman Wilson: think we we can go Howard Taylor: Home? Norman Wilson: home. Howard Taylor: Happily satisfied. Norman Wilson: Yeah. Maybe maybe we can hassle the the production department to to make a a real prototype that we can use at home to to evaluate. Howard Taylor: Mm-hmm. Jerald Spellman: Yep. Norman Wilson: Okay so thanks very much. Howard Taylor: Thank Jerald Spellman: Okay. Howard Taylor: you. Norman Wilson: Bye. Jerald Spellman: Thank you. Stanley Cruz: Bye.

Norman Wilson goes through the minutes of the last meeting. They have the prototype presentation and talk about the final design, features, and power source, type of chip and weight of the remote. They go through the evaulations, using the a list of criteria made by Stanley Cruz. They rate each criteria on a scale of 0 (true) to 7 (false): how fancy it is, how handy it is, how functional, how cool it is, whether they would spend twenty five euro for it, and whether they would change their current remote for this one. Next they do a cost estimate for production. In doing this, they decide against solar cells and go with the rechargable batteries. They keep the regular chip, stick with plastic, put two scroll wheels and three push buttons, and make it a special shade of yellow. They eliminate the turbo button and give the remote a single curve because of budget restrictions. They briefly evaulate the project process and close the meeting.

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Donald Benitez: So Peter Waldrop: So Donald Benitez: I hope you're ready for this uh functional design meeting. Peter Waldrop: Of course. Donald Benitez: Um so I will take the minutes you mm you three are going to do presentation. Um uh we want to know to at the end to know the new project's requirement so we need uh to know the the user uh needs that we want to fulfil to fulfil the from the technical part we want to know how it going to work and um third part uh I don't remember which is not very good. Ah of course how, to to design this uh this Peter Waldrop: Nice stuff Donald Benitez: yeah. So um let's go for the three presentations, so first Peter Waldrop: Who starts? Donald Benitez: um Marketing Peter Waldrop: Oh. Ha. Donald Benitez: Expert. Peter Waldrop: okay. Donald Benitez: So wait a minute. Peter Waldrop: So Donald Benitez: Mm. Peter Waldrop: I dunno if I can do that like this? Yeah? So it's being modified. Do you want yeah, open. Read only. I hope I saved it. So, Romeo Brown: Sammy Peter Waldrop: um Romeo Brown: Benjo. Peter Waldrop: yeah, Romeo Brown: I know this Peter Waldrop: this Romeo Brown: name Peter Waldrop: is Romeo Brown: uh Peter Waldrop: my name. Donald Benitez: Sounds uh Romeo Brown: We. met Peter Waldrop: So Romeo Brown: before. Peter Waldrop: as you know, you I think you already know Peter Waldrop, Sammy Benjo. I am the expert in marketing I want to tell you uh s want and uh like and dislike in remote controls, and I hope this is going to help you to to design it correctly. So next please. Uh-oh. Donald Benitez: Mm Roy Cheeks: Yeah, it Donald Benitez: uh. Roy Cheeks: is put F_ five. Donald Benitez: Hmm. Peter Waldrop: Hmm. Roy Cheeks: The full page presentation, Peter Waldrop: Yeah maybe Roy Cheeks: yep. Peter Waldrop: in the full page because Romeo Brown: F_ Peter Waldrop: i Donald Benitez: Okay. Romeo Brown: F_ five. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: I spent Roy Cheeks: Yep. Peter Waldrop: lots of time doing this presentation, Donald Benitez: F_ five. Peter Waldrop: so. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: Uh-huh hmm okay. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Mm. Peter Waldrop: So basically uh what I suggest is that uh instead of deciding ourself what what could be and what should be a good uh remote control, let's ask people who are users of remote controls how they feel about w the current remote controls, what they like, what they don't like and um and what they do with them by the way because they are supposed to be useful. Don't forget about that. So we've we've conducted a a survey on on the use of uh remote controls and I'd like to show you some of the results we found on this survey. And next please. Yeah, so basically what we found was that uh there are several things that the user don't like in remote controls. First of all, they find it very ugly. Current remote controls as you know they're the same as this one uh they're not nice colour, not nice shape, I mean they're all the same, and they're not l good looking. Um what is interesting is that in fact it seems that they were people are ready to pay for nice and look and fancy looking uh remote control, so I think we should probably spend lots of time in and effort in that um. And the other thing is that uh the the current remote controls are not so easy to use and it it the the current uh facilities that they offer do not match what people really want to use their remote controls. For instance uh we see that uh they zap very often so I think this is a very uh important uh functionality that it should be easy for them to to zap uh in one way or another. And most of the buttons uh on uh current remote controls are not used, so I think we should design something where some of the buttons which are those that are used should be easier to see and use than others that only a couple of people are using. Um next please. Now people are very frustrated w with their remote controls and they for instance uh they don't even find it it's it's often lost somewhere in the in the in your home and nobody knows where it Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: is. Maybe Romeo Brown: Agree. Peter Waldrop: if we have something where we Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: could ask the remote control please, where are you? Like Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: uh something to to like t I think phones. Some of the phones have some of this kind of s functionality. Uh of course phone you can always phone your phone but you can't phone Roy Cheeks: You can Peter Waldrop: your your Roy Cheeks: you Peter Waldrop: remote Donald Benitez: Why Peter Waldrop: control. Donald Benitez: not? Roy Cheeks: are. Peter Waldrop: But why not? Yeah. And because of the fact that there are so many buttons in these remote controls that nobody use, in fact Roy Cheeks: Hmm. Peter Waldrop: they don't even know how to use them, so most of the the people say they they don't know how to they to use properly their r remote controls. And uh they are bad for R_S_I_ but uh I don't remember what is R_S_I_. So I think they are bad. Donald Benitez: Okay uh tha that's look Romeo Brown: R_S_I_ Donald Benitez: great. Romeo Brown: mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: Mm-hmm. Mm nobody has any idea about that? Well I'll Roy Cheeks: Yeah, Peter Waldrop: check uh Roy Cheeks: it's Peter Waldrop: with my Roy Cheeks: electromagnetic waves or something Peter Waldrop: Oh, Roy Cheeks: kind of maybe Romeo Brown: No, Peter Waldrop: okay, Roy Cheeks: uh effect. Peter Waldrop: I think Romeo Brown: I Peter Waldrop: it's Romeo Brown: don't Peter Waldrop: a technical Romeo Brown: think so. Peter Waldrop: thing which Roy Cheeks: Yeah, because infrared Peter Waldrop: our Roy Cheeks: uses some Peter Waldrop: Okay. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: electromagnetic Donald Benitez: Okay. Roy Cheeks: technology, Romeo Brown: Okay. Roy Cheeks: and those Peter Waldrop: So, Roy Cheeks: waves Peter Waldrop: it Roy Cheeks: have high Peter Waldrop: seems Romeo Brown: But twenty Peter Waldrop: that Romeo Brown: six percent, do you know Peter Waldrop: it's a Roy Cheeks: Uh. Peter Waldrop: lot of people for a Romeo Brown: Twenty Peter Waldrop: concept Donald Benitez: Or something Peter Waldrop: that we Donald Benitez: we Peter Waldrop: don't Donald Benitez: don't Peter Waldrop: know Donald Benitez: know. Romeo Brown: five. Peter Waldrop: but Roy Cheeks: Uh. Peter Waldrop: we have to take this into account. Romeo Brown: Every fourth, you Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Romeo Brown: know. Roy Cheeks: Yeah it's Romeo Brown: Every four Roy Cheeks: People really Romeo Brown: some of us knows. Donald Benitez: Okay. Peter Waldrop: So anyway Romeo Brown: One Peter Waldrop: that's Romeo Brown: of Peter Waldrop: for Romeo Brown: us Peter Waldrop: what the biggest frustration uh of the user and um Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Yeah. Peter Waldrop: what else do I have? Next slide? Ah yeah. Romeo Brown: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: So we've listed a couple of uh Romeo Brown: Functions. Peter Waldrop: s uh functions that may be uh used by u the user in the current uh available uh remote controls and uh well the tables look very nice to read but what is important is to understand that the power button is not used often because in general you use it only once per session, but it is very relevant. People want to have a power button. Channel selection is uh o often used very often used and indeed uh very relevant. Peter Waldrop: Ah now I remember what is R_S_I_ it's repetitivity stress injury. We have to be careful with that word but Roy Cheeks: Uh. Peter Waldrop: uh anyway I continue my presentation so yeah, channel selection is um very important, very often used. Volume is not often used but people uh want to have control on volume and that makes sense of course. Peter Waldrop: All of them. they're not often used and they are s more or less relevant. It seems that people find teletext teletext uh relevant, even if I personally never use it but seems that it's average relevant at least, so. Donald Benitez: I have been told that we uh don't consider teletext, that it's out of date now because of internet. Peter Waldrop: I can tell you that uh in a l in a scale between one and ten relevant uh not relevant to relevant people scored a six on this, which is not as uh these these two one were had I think ten I think. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: But but if you compare with these ones, uh I think they scored a one or two. Not very Roy Cheeks: Hmm. Peter Waldrop: relevant, so if if there are good reason not to put teletext it's okay but just know that people find it somehow relevant. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm Romeo Brown: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: That's for the main functions I think and uh then we can ask uh ourself uh what people don't have that may be useful. For instance I think net next slide. One of the thing the trend uh that uh you are probably aware of is the possibility the eventual possibility of having speech recognition in your remote control, so you wouldn't have to tap tap in your buttons but just tell your remote control or whatever you need you have what you want. So we've conducted a survey about uh whether people would like or not to have uh this kind of uh functionality in their remote control and as we can see it really depends on the age. Young people, probably because it's a buzz word, find it very relevant. And uh as the age goes up the the relevance goes down. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: So now it really depends on the kind of uh targeting uh wha who are we targeting with this remote control? I think if we Roy Cheeks: 'Cause Peter Waldrop: are targeting young people then uh it's probably something we have to consider. If we are targeting you very old people this is something they really don't know why they this should be so Donald Benitez: Mm-mm. Peter Waldrop: now this Donald Benitez: Okay. Peter Waldrop: is of course, depends on that. And um I don't have any conclusion, I didn't have time the meeting was very tight, so that's basically my findings. And uh, if you have any question? Donald Benitez: Mm I think it's good, okay. You done a good Romeo Brown: I Peter Waldrop: I can Romeo Brown: got Donald Benitez: review. Peter Waldrop: go back. Romeo Brown: one question, Roy Cheeks: you. Peter Waldrop: Yeah one question, yeah? Romeo Brown: uh you are a Market Expert so Peter Waldrop: I am. Romeo Brown: should we aim at the young people or not? Peter Waldrop: I think we should aim at the young people. But uh I think they are they are those uh who might be more interested in a in a new device. Roy Cheeks: Mm. Peter Waldrop: In general the the early adopters of a new device are young people, less than Romeo Brown: Okay, Peter Waldrop: more Roy Cheeks: Mm. Peter Waldrop: than Romeo Brown: then teletext is used less. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: Then teletext is useless for them I think, Romeo Brown: Okay. Peter Waldrop: yeah. Because they they have other means of finding Romeo Brown: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: their Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm Peter Waldrop: information. Romeo Brown: Mm-hmm. Donald Benitez: mm Peter Waldrop: Yeah. Donald Benitez: mm. Okay. Peter Waldrop: But Donald Benitez: That's good Peter Waldrop: yeah. Roy Cheeks: Mm, Donald Benitez: point. Romeo Brown: Mm. Roy Cheeks: yep. Romeo Brown: Okay. Peter Waldrop: Nope. 'Kay? Donald Benitez: Okay. Roy Cheeks: Thank you. Donald Benitez: So um now I think it's the turn of the the I'm not sure um Donald Benitez: Of the technical function, so Peter Waldrop: So Donald Benitez: uh Peter Waldrop: I think it's you, Roy Cheeks: Uh it's Peter Waldrop: huh? No? Romeo Brown: That's Roy Cheeks: techni Romeo Brown: Peter Waldrop. Roy Cheeks: function Donald Benitez: what effect Peter Waldrop: No, Roy Cheeks: of Peter Waldrop: user requiremen Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: Okay. Wait a Roy Cheeks: I Donald Benitez: second. Roy Cheeks: have to do Donald Benitez: Argh. Roy Cheeks: working design so uh. Donald Benitez: So Romeo Brown: That's Donald Benitez: you're Romeo Brown: but this but number three, yes. Mm-hmm. So, my name is Mark Dwight, and um I am responsible for User Interface Design. However, uh mm Project Manager asked Peter Waldrop to give you some presentation about technical functions design. Uh, as I'm a more an artist that's gonna be less technical functions but more User Interface and current intentions and everything which is linked with this. So next Donald Benitez: Okay. Romeo Brown: slide please. Donald Benitez: Let's go. Romeo Brown: And uh a general method which is seems Roy Cheeks: Mm. Romeo Brown: to be very useful for our task is not to forget about uh Occam razor. We should never complicate things too much. We should only make a remote control, nothing more. Nothing more than this, just a remote control. 'Cause current remote Peter Waldrop: Makes sense. Romeo Brown: controls they are never easy enough to use. So, make a click, please. So here is this remote control. It's quite a standard one, but it's not from a T_V_, it's from a much easier device like air conditioning or something. But you know, we can use it for a T_V_ easily. Only buttons we need is on off, volume, channels and maybe some options or something else, and please make a click, compared to this one which Roy Cheeks: It's Romeo Brown: one would you prefer? I guess Roy Cheeks: Yeah, Romeo Brown: this. Peter Waldrop: I would say Roy Cheeks: yeah. Peter Waldrop: the simplest one as long as there are the uh I find the buttons that I need every time I need a button. Romeo Brown: Sure, Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Romeo Brown: sure. Roy Cheeks: Maybe it can be yeah middle of like, Romeo Brown: Yeah, Roy Cheeks: between those two li Romeo Brown: and our method is going to be, provide simple Donald Benitez: Oh sorry. Romeo Brown: simple desires into simple actions. Peter Waldrop: Nice. Nice sentence. Romeo Brown: Findings. Donald Benitez: Okay. Oh sorry. Romeo Brown: Our question of the style, we should remember that our company puts fashion into electronics and we should never forget about it. Concept. Roy Cheeks: S you Romeo Brown: Be Roy Cheeks: should Romeo Brown: simple. Roy Cheeks: yeah. Romeo Brown: Be simple and you'll lean on this market. Market is a of remote controls you know it better, Peter Waldrop: Mm. Romeo Brown: it's very well, it's it's not an easy field to to play, you know? So be simple. For personal preferences I think that to make a baby-proof remote control it got to be a titanium. It's a really good style, it going to be look like like this. It is unbreakable and it is very universal. W we'll have a screen with a back light which can change colours, Peter Waldrop: Mm-hmm. Romeo Brown: and we can put all the options into this screen. We'll need only few buttons. All the other things can be controlled through the screen. And all these buttons should be easy to find and to click, 'cause when you watch a movie and you want to change something, you always try to find a good button and click it, but you should do it by touching it and finding it easily just by touch. So Press I would propose this concept for design, just few buttons, Roy Cheeks: Mm. Romeo Brown: a screen with a back light which can change colours, titanium I think, and uh what else? I got just very few and good ideas. We need power and volume. And let us include two nice features into this device, first, power on and off can be made fully automatic. When you go to the sofa, take your control and point it to the T_V_, Donald Benitez: It's Peter Waldrop: Hmm. Donald Benitez: off. It's on. Romeo Brown: the T_V_ turns on. Peter Waldrop: And when does it turn off? Romeo Brown: When you don't touch the control but you go out of the Peter Waldrop: Oh Romeo Brown: For Peter Waldrop: so you have a Romeo Brown: for enough time like uh you Peter Waldrop: sensing sensor machine that uh Romeo Brown: It's Peter Waldrop: knows Romeo Brown: a question to our technical Peter Waldrop: Tech Romeo Brown: design, our two engineers. And another nice feature that I would like to implement is uh volume control. Suppose you set u you set up some volume and then you move out or you move to the other corner of the room and take your control with you. Like, you want to to change the chair or you want to move to the armchair from the sofa or Donald Benitez: Or you want to go to Romeo Brown: something, Donald Benitez: the kitchen. Romeo Brown: and then the volume changes. Peter Waldrop: Mm-hmm. Romeo Brown: It's easy to do, you just control the Peter Waldrop: According to your distance Roy Cheeks: Distance. Peter Waldrop: to Romeo Brown: According to the distance. Peter Waldrop: and the angle maybe, if you have a Romeo Brown: Yeah Peter Waldrop: stereo system. Romeo Brown: yeah yeah. Peter Waldrop: Uh I'm Romeo Brown: So Peter Waldrop: not sure about the screen, wha what is the use usefulness of the screen? Uh is it a touch screen by the way? Romeo Brown: I think it can be just a menu which can be controlled with a left, right, up, down and enter. Peter Waldrop: So it gives Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: instructions but uh it has to be with an back light somehow. Romeo Brown: So, its main purpose in fact is a back light, Roy Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: Okay. Romeo Brown: which change colours, which makes it easier to find, and each can it can respond for your voice, like it can turn on the light for you just to f find it easily, yeah? Peter Waldrop: Okay. Donald Benitez: Mm. Romeo Brown: So basically that's it. Donald Benitez: Um I see that you target uh several s application not only T_V_ but i like we talk about um universal uh remote control. Romeo Brown: Can be easily done, Donald Benitez: Yeah. Romeo Brown: 'cause you got simple designs, y we should put it to simple actions. Donald Benitez: Hmm. Romeo Brown: Let it be universal, so you want to use it for your hi-fi system. You want to change tracks and you want to adjust volume. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Romeo Brown: Just Roy Cheeks: Mm. Romeo Brown: few actions, a few actions for everything. Donald Benitez: Hmm. S Romeo Brown: All the rest, we sh we'll put it into this menu on the screen. Donald Benitez: Mm. Since we were targeting a really soon uh uh date for the the the um i issuing of this uh remote control I think we will only concentrate on T_V_ for the moment Roy Cheeks: Mm. Donald Benitez: and Romeo Brown: Okay, okay. Roy Cheeks: Yeah Donald Benitez: then Roy Cheeks: and it Donald Benitez: maybe Roy Cheeks: mm. Donald Benitez: m Romeo Brown: Okay, Donald Benitez: make Romeo Brown: but it's quite Donald Benitez: it Romeo Brown: universal Donald Benitez: more generalised Roy Cheeks: Mm. Romeo Brown: you know. Donald Benitez: yeah. Romeo Brown: We can just extend it to any Roy Cheeks: Mm. Romeo Brown: device. Peter Waldrop: So for instance if I want to go to directly to channel twenty five, how would I do can I do that with this? Yeah mm let's say I am uh on channel eight now. You know these days we have hundreds of channels, that's not so Romeo Brown: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: easy to go just next next next when you have hundreds of channels. Romeo Brown: In fact Peter Waldrop: Or is Romeo Brown: I would Peter Waldrop: it? Romeo Brown: propose another solution. Basically you use just four or five channels, Peter Waldrop: Most Romeo Brown: right? Peter Waldrop: people yeah. Romeo Brown: Yeah. So uh set up your T_V_ set like channels that you use they're one, two, three and five, and you will never have to go to a twenty fives channel. Peter Waldrop: In fact in in one uh remote control that I've seen, instead of doing that d you could just say these are the cha ch channel three, twenty eight, forty eight and uh sixty four are those that I want to by cycled with my next button. Donald Benitez: Yeah it's Peter Waldrop: I uh Donald Benitez: it's the same Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: solution, I think. Peter Waldrop: B yeah. Donald Benitez: Hmm. Roy Cheeks: But even we can have some uh L_C_D_ display, like you can uh Peter Waldrop: Go Roy Cheeks: de Peter Waldrop: to Roy Cheeks: you Peter Waldrop: channel Roy Cheeks: can just Peter Waldrop: twenty five. Roy Cheeks: button the number and Peter Waldrop: One Roy Cheeks: then Peter Waldrop: thing Roy Cheeks: it Peter Waldrop: is Roy Cheeks: go Peter Waldrop: that Roy Cheeks: t Peter Waldrop: as I said Roy Cheeks: because Peter Waldrop: in my presentation people really do like to z zap. So Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: even if they are only watching four or five channels, Romeo Brown: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: I think Roy Cheeks: But Peter Waldrop: they Roy Cheeks: still Peter Waldrop: want to zap out of the one hundred channels, Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: just because this is one kind of thing they do, Donald Benitez: Yeah Peter Waldrop: zapping. Donald Benitez: uh on zap Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: it's only next next Peter Waldrop: And it's Donald Benitez: next Peter Waldrop: only Donald Benitez: next Peter Waldrop: next. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: next, Peter Waldrop: Yeah Donald Benitez: yeah. Peter Waldrop: so but Romeo Brown: Mm. Peter Waldrop: you have to Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Romeo Brown: We got these buttons here. Peter Waldrop: Okay. Romeo Brown: Next next. Roy Cheeks: Yeah.. Romeo Brown: Or say this can be back. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. But otherwise like we can put some display on numbers and then they can just press Peter Waldrop: So Roy Cheeks: suppose Peter Waldrop: it would be Roy Cheeks: two five they just press two and five and then Peter Waldrop: Okay. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: Maybe we can make uh different modes for each button and you Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: can change mode zapping Roy Cheeks: Yeah, Donald Benitez: mode Roy Cheeks: yeah. Donald Benitez: or Peter Waldrop: Mm-hmm. Alright. Donald Benitez: uh current Roy Cheeks: Yeah, Donald Benitez: chan Roy Cheeks: yeah. Yeah Peter Waldrop: Listening Roy Cheeks: but since we are focusing Peter Waldrop: more. Roy Cheeks: only on T_V_ remote controls Donald Benitez: Yeah. Roy Cheeks: so Peter Waldrop: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: we can have more functions for T_V_ uh if you want to go for a universal then we ought to limit for functions for each of our devices. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: Okay. Romeo Brown: Could we carry out some research if we w really need this, like how many people really need to go to channel number twenty five and then to sixty four? Peter Waldrop: Well I could could uh have a look at that Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Yeah. Peter Waldrop: maybe. Romeo Brown: Okay. Peter Waldrop: I'll check in my department if there's someone specialist in that. Romeo Brown: Okay. Peter Waldrop: Although I don't know. Donald Benitez: Okay. Romeo Brown: Alright? Thanks for your attention. Donald Benitez: Uh you're finish? Okay. So now the technical aspects of this new device. Mm. Roy Cheeks: Two. Yeah, if Sorry. Donald Benitez: You prefer it. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Uh as you know, I am mister Ramaro. I am an expert in uh industrial design of all electronic devices and I previously devised many uh like digital calculators and electronic calculators. So now I'll briefly describe the working design of our remote control. Well, as you know the basic function of remote control is sending some message to the the device, like T_V_ or V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player etcetera. So we will have a p portable device which will send message to the the main device like T_V_. So we need to have some energy source to do what to do the functions, what we want on this portable device. And usually this so to do these functions we need an interface, which basically some kind of pressing buttons or keys or like moving jack or something like that. And then these messages these key buttons can be transferred into some kind of message and then it will process by the chip and then it will generate some information to the main device. It's generally in the form of infrared or some kind of s sensor information. Then we will have the main control in the main device to do the particular action what we want. So, basically we need uh since we are focusing on our interface device remote control we need few components, mainly the energy source like the battery and then we have user interface like uh the keypad and you know buttons we want, and then we have some chip, it's mainly digital signal processing chip because since we are I am one doing mostly digital uh devices we ought to have some kind of processor which take care of all these functions and put it in some digital format. And then we'll have the infrared L_E_D_ source which sends the information to the main device. Then we'll have switch in our main uh um device to do particular operations, and we ought to do different codes for different T_V_s, so Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: some T_V_s will have different encryption codes for doing s s uh channel changing Donald Benitez: Okay. Roy Cheeks: and these things. Donald Benitez: To make it quite uh an universal uh device Roy Cheeks: Yeah yeah, Donald Benitez: uh. Roy Cheeks: because the people don't use one particular brand so Donald Benitez: Mm. Roy Cheeks: or at least we have more more than five brands, which Donald Benitez: Okay. Roy Cheeks: are really good. So we need to check their specifications and do their uh encryption that's passing information to the T_V_ device. So we need to have particular encryption codes. Donald Benitez: Okay. Roy Cheeks: Then, components, so we have the main uh energy source and then we will have some buttons and then we will have infrared uh source and then we have some inside some chip in in the device. Uh since I don't have much time so I'll input the connections to all this components. And since I also want to know feedback from our Marketing Expert and User Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: Interface, so if you want to add some more components we Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: can Donald Benitez: And Roy Cheeks: incorporate Donald Benitez: from from Roy Cheeks: them. Donald Benitez: the discussion we had do you Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: can you make it on the whiteboard, or Roy Cheeks: Yeah, Donald Benitez: mm. Roy Cheeks: I'm sure, because since our User Interface speech recognition and also Marketing Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: Expert for the speech recognition is really handy, Peter Waldrop: Mm-hmm. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: so we can have another, like uh s simple speech recogniser on our D_S_B_ Donald Benitez: Mm. Roy Cheeks: chip. Since we have some kind of uh energy this is our this normal battery, so this battery, once you s switch on it will take power and we can have some speech recognition and in our g generally small digital signal processing chip so that and we will put uh the small uh simple speech recogniser and Donald Benitez: On Roy Cheeks: we can also train the speech recogniser for particular user so you just Donald Benitez: Uh train it, okay. Roy Cheeks: yeah, Peter Waldrop: Mm-hmm. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: so that we just use simple Romeo Brown: Too complex. Roy Cheeks: recog no Peter Waldrop: But Roy Cheeks: but Peter Waldrop: uh very Roy Cheeks: but Peter Waldrop: very good to sell. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. No, even in even simple mobile device like any mobile brand you can have these voice dialers or Peter Waldrop: Think Roy Cheeks: these Peter Waldrop: of Roy Cheeks: things, Peter Waldrop: a all Romeo Brown: Okay. Peter Waldrop: these young Roy Cheeks: yeah. Peter Waldrop: people who would love to say that this remote control only works for them, Romeo Brown: Okay. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: and ha ha you cannot use my remote control, because Donald Benitez: Mm. Peter Waldrop: it's targeted Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: to Peter Waldrop. Whatever. Donald Benitez: And what Roy Cheeks: So Donald Benitez: about the price of this component? Roy Cheeks: Uh maybe we can make uh Donald Benitez: It Roy Cheeks: it Donald Benitez: mm Roy Cheeks: in five Euros and Donald Benitez: okay. Roy Cheeks: even Peter Waldrop: Hmm. Roy Cheeks: less Peter Waldrop: Cheap. Roy Cheeks: than that, because we want to have Peter Waldrop: Millions. Roy Cheeks: uh millions and Donald Benitez: Mm. Roy Cheeks: in bulk, so we can make really simp Donald Benitez: Okay. Roy Cheeks: and Peter Waldrop: Cheap. Roy Cheeks: we want to make really simple device because we have only very few words like like power, switch on Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: or some like then we'll have something like this um we'll have volume and then we will have s particular channel, so users can Peter Waldrop: The Roy Cheeks: listen. Peter Waldrop: user uh Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Peter Waldrop: will just be able to say uh please can you uh pump up the vo pump up the volume or or it Roy Cheeks: Ye Peter Waldrop: will be something like volume, Roy Cheeks: No, yeah, Peter Waldrop: up, Roy Cheeks: a Peter Waldrop: down. Roy Cheeks: user can use any kind of sender but they should have this prompt volume and Peter Waldrop: Okay. Roy Cheeks: then Donald Benitez: With a keywords and Roy Cheeks: yeah Donald Benitez: yeah. Roy Cheeks: volume and decrease or increase, so Peter Waldrop: Okay. Roy Cheeks: we try to only recognise those Peter Waldrop: Couple Roy Cheeks: words Peter Waldrop: of words. Roy Cheeks: and Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm mm. Roy Cheeks: and because we can't really say user to say same wording then it become Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: more mechanical and Peter Waldrop: Okay. Roy Cheeks: yeah. Donald Benitez: Okay. Romeo Brown: Um. Roy Cheeks: And then we can have channel they can say, okay I want eight, because we don't know like users have different programmes, I mean they don't really follow same channels strict uh so we just want channel number, we don't want like B_B_C_ or C_N_N_ or something Peter Waldrop: Of course Roy Cheeks: else Donald Benitez: Okay. Peter Waldrop: uh Roy Cheeks: because Peter Waldrop: it has to Roy Cheeks: it Romeo Brown: Okay. Roy Cheeks: will Peter Waldrop: be Roy Cheeks: be complicated so we'll have only these three uh main basic uh Peter Waldrop: Okay. Roy Cheeks: anyway volume is not really speech recognition problem, it's it it will be take care of our main Romeo Brown: No you know it's a conceptual Roy Cheeks: mm. Romeo Brown: question, 'cause now I see th this the picture in front of my eyes like a user taking his remote control and shouting into it, volume up, volume Peter Waldrop: But Romeo Brown: up, Peter Waldrop: then I Romeo Brown: and Peter Waldrop: think you Romeo Brown: and he's coming you know, he's really annoyed with this, Peter Waldrop: you Romeo Brown: down, up, down. Peter Waldrop: First of all I I think this is not uh functionality that it is going to be instead of using Donald Benitez: No, Peter Waldrop: the buttons. Donald Benitez: in no not Peter Waldrop: It's Donald Benitez: only Peter Waldrop: on Donald Benitez: speech, Peter Waldrop: top Donald Benitez: yeah. Peter Waldrop: of using the button. Romeo Brown: Okay, for Donald Benitez: I Romeo Brown: this Donald Benitez: it's Romeo Brown: budget Donald Benitez: an option. Romeo Brown: like twelve Euros. Peter Waldrop: Well, I dunno. Roy Cheeks: Yeah actually we we can have one switch to like uh switch on, on and off, this processor and This really, suppose like here we have our main chip which controls power, volume and this part and this D_S_P_s. Romeo Brown: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: Again, this to have some interaction like suppose people use D_S_P_ then it particularly sends some information to the chip like in some form, like volume and like this key. So Romeo Brown: Okay.. Roy Cheeks: it may not be like very expensive, because since we are only focusing on Peter Waldrop: T_V_. Roy Cheeks: T_V_ remote control so Donald Benitez: Okay. Romeo Brown: Mm-hmm, Roy Cheeks: and we have Romeo Brown: mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: only few Donald Benitez: Sho Roy Cheeks: things here Donald Benitez: to to train, okay. Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Romeo Brown: Did you consider the r gest uh gesture recognition? Like, if I want to put volume up I like do mm I take my remote control do like something like Roy Cheeks: Um Romeo Brown: roll 'em up Roy Cheeks: uh Romeo Brown: or roll 'em down. Donald Benitez: Mm. Roy Cheeks: uh this point we didn't consider because it's Peter Waldrop: Very expensive, Roy Cheeks: it's Peter Waldrop: no? Roy Cheeks: very expensive because v our target is only like Donald Benitez: And Roy Cheeks: twelve Donald Benitez: well, Roy Cheeks: point five Euros Donald Benitez: what Romeo Brown: Mm Donald Benitez: about Roy Cheeks: and Romeo Brown: why? Donald Benitez: the idea of Romeo Brown: That's Donald Benitez: automatic Romeo Brown: just Donald Benitez: on off on Peter Waldrop: And Donald Benitez: the Peter Waldrop: volume Roy Cheeks: Yeah, Peter Waldrop: control. Roy Cheeks: even automatic Donald Benitez: button, yeah. Roy Cheeks: on off is also a bit problematic, because it different criteria for different people like so suppose people are really uh they just uh they don't touch the remote and mm y Peter Waldrop: So but Roy Cheeks: you don't Peter Waldrop: uh Roy Cheeks: know how much time you need to switch on or switch off and Peter Waldrop: Sh should we target a a user personalised uh uh remote control? So in in a given room there might be more than one remote control. We would uh have each one Roy Cheeks: Yay yeah. Peter Waldrop: and uh with our own personal uh settings. Roy Cheeks: Yeah that can be possible, especially for power settings, so user can say okay, suppose they're watching a tennis match or something then they can say okay Peter Waldrop: Hmm. Roy Cheeks: uh after one hour I Donald Benitez: Wouldn't that make Roy Cheeks: They can Donald Benitez: uh Roy Cheeks: make Donald Benitez: arguments? Peter Waldrop: Yeah, of Donald Benitez: I Peter Waldrop: course. Donald Benitez: want uh Peter Waldrop: That's no problem, we will sell more. Roy Cheeks: Yeah we can have Donald Benitez: And we Romeo Brown: We Donald Benitez: can Romeo Brown: got Donald Benitez: increase this Romeo Brown: a Donald Benitez: the strength Peter Waldrop: Yeah exactly. Donald Benitez: y you can Romeo Brown: really Donald Benitez: buy Romeo Brown: good Market Donald Benitez: one Romeo Brown: Expert. Donald Benitez: with Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Romeo Brown: Let's send more, let's sell more. Okay. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Okay. You have mm something else to say? Roy Cheeks: Uh, Donald Benitez: Uh. Roy Cheeks: not very much, like Donald Benitez: No. Roy Cheeks: yeah. Peter Waldrop: Okay. Thanks. Donald Benitez: Okay, Roy Cheeks: Thank you. Donald Benitez: thanks. Roy Cheeks: Yep. Thank you. Donald Benitez: So Roy Cheeks: Can you just yeah. Donald Benitez: mm mm I think, okay, we're just on time. Um mm mm. So, we're now going to l have the lunch break. Peter Waldrop: Mm great. Donald Benitez: Then we will work again for thirty minutes individual work, and um we will uh meet again for the next meeting, and uh in this one want to to be more focused on the individual actions the um on the components so uh you will focus on the component Roy Cheeks: Yeah Donald Benitez: concept Roy Cheeks: yeah. Donald Benitez: um uh of course the Roy Cheeks: Mark Donald Benitez: U_I_D_ Roy Cheeks: will Donald Benitez: Mark will be uh focused on the user interface concept and uh our m Market Expert Sammy Benjo uh on the trend watching. So um of course like before specific instruction will be sent to you by your personal personal coach. Well I think that's all. And we have um maybe we have to we say, only for T_V_, not teletext? Uh I think automatic on off control uh it's not possible. Roy Cheeks: Uh it's Peter Waldrop: Difficult. Roy Cheeks: in current price, Donald Benitez: Yeah, Roy Cheeks: yeah. Donald Benitez: maybe in the next Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: uh step if we make it work um. Roy Cheeks: But speech recogniser can be Donald Benitez: Yeah, Roy Cheeks: possible. Donald Benitez: implemented. O okay, we Peter Waldrop: Mm-hmm. Donald Benitez: can think about that. And um do you see something else? Peter Waldrop: No. Romeo Brown: Uh, should it be equipped with the uh, with uh speakers? Peter Waldrop: Speakers Romeo Brown: Like, Peter Waldrop: in the remote Romeo Brown: you want Peter Waldrop: cont Romeo Brown: to find it, you shout Peter Waldrop: Oh yeah. Romeo Brown: control, Donald Benitez: Uh yeah that's Romeo Brown: and it answers is I'm here? Or Peter Waldrop: It just beeps. That would be enough. Romeo Brown: Just beeps? Donald Benitez: Or maybe Peter Waldrop: Something Donald Benitez: you Peter Waldrop: very Donald Benitez: want Peter Waldrop: cheap. Donald Benitez: to phone him. Peter Waldrop: But that's Roy Cheeks: Yeah Donald Benitez: Since Roy Cheeks: yeah Peter Waldrop: ex Donald Benitez: now Roy Cheeks: yeah. Donald Benitez: all Peter Waldrop: that's expensive. Donald Benitez: yeah? Peter Waldrop: Uh. Roy Cheeks: Yeah, especially Donald Benitez: Think Roy Cheeks: the power, it really consumes because Donald Benitez: Uh-huh. Roy Cheeks: it should be all the time on and Peter Waldrop: Well I Donald Benitez: And uh Peter Waldrop: I heard of devices where you just uh whistle them and Donald Benitez: And Peter Waldrop: and they Donald Benitez: it's answered. Peter Waldrop: because Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: of the the frequency they Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Peter Waldrop: they just Romeo Brown: I can't whistle. Peter Waldrop: answer to that. Romeo Brown: No, Peter Waldrop: You can't whistle. Romeo Brown: no, Peter Waldrop: Uh-huh. Romeo Brown: I can't. Peter Waldrop: Or a clap. Romeo Brown: Mm. Donald Benitez: Clap Peter Waldrop: You can clap. Donald Benitez: clap Peter Waldrop: Can you? Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: clap it's a good Peter Waldrop: Clap is good. Donald Benitez: I Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: I think Peter Waldrop: Tak Donald Benitez: it's universal. Peter Waldrop: Just a Donald Benitez: What about Peter Waldrop: suggestion. Romeo Brown: Okay. Donald Benitez: people without hand? Yeah. Peter Waldrop: With only one hand? Roy Cheeks: Yeah I think it's good. Peter Waldrop: These are not our target Donald Benitez: Mm Peter Waldrop: people. Donald Benitez: uh okay. Roy Cheeks: But it's a good feature I guess yeah we need to Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Roy Cheeks: think about more Donald Benitez: Okay. Roy Cheeks: how to incorporate it. Romeo Brown: Just don't interfere with other devices like 'cause Peter Waldrop: Mm-hmm. Romeo Brown: like all these people do that their lights are turning on with clapping. Peter Waldrop: Oh Roy Cheeks: Oh. Peter Waldrop: that's e that already exists Romeo Brown: Yeah, Peter Waldrop: okay Romeo Brown: I got it Peter Waldrop: okay. Romeo Brown: at my home, Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm. Romeo Brown: like. Peter Waldrop: Oh yeah, you do Romeo Brown: Oops. Peter Waldrop: have. Wow. Roy Cheeks: Ah Peter Waldrop: You're Roy Cheeks: it's Peter Waldrop: trendy. Donald Benitez: Mm-hmm, so let's to think s Peter Waldrop: Think about Donald Benitez: so Peter Waldrop: it. Donald Benitez: that Peter Waldrop: Yeah, Donald Benitez: yeah. I Peter Waldrop: okay. Donald Benitez: think that could be in the component uh concept Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: uh. It yes. Peter Waldrop: Okay. Donald Benitez: Okay. Peter Waldrop: Good we're done? Donald Benitez: So, yeah Roy Cheeks: Yeah. Donald Benitez: let's, Peter Waldrop: Right, Donald Benitez: go Peter Waldrop: thanks. Donald Benitez: to lunch. Roy Cheeks: Thank you, thank you very much.

Donald Benitez opened the meeting and stated the agenda to the team members. Peter Waldrop discussed the findings of a survey which indicated that current remotes are ugly, difficult to use, have a number of unused buttons, frustrate users when misplaced, and contribute to RSI. Peter Waldrop also stated that young users like speech recognition and that users in general want buttons for power, channel selection, volume control, and a few lesser used settings. Romeo Brown presented existing remotes to exemplify the need for simpler designs, discussed the use of components such as titanium and a back-lit LCD screen, and discussed other features to consider such as color options. Roy Cheeks discussed the interior workings of a remote and how to handle universal capability and speech recognition. After Donald Benitez's closing, Donald Benitez recapped some decisions and the team discussed how to handle the issue of locating a remote when misplaced.

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Victor Engram: So we come to the third meetings. I have good. Um so in the last meeting we have discussed the functional design and now we will talk about the conceptual design. So we Darrin Kinsler: Okay Victor Engram: will talk about Darrin Kinsler: so Victor Engram: some Darrin Kinsler: I think I Victor Engram: specific Darrin Kinsler: will Victor Engram: details. Darrin Kinsler: do my presentation on the components concept so can you please uh open uh I'm participant two. Components Victor Engram: This Darrin Kinsler: design. Okay so uh the first thing uh I have done is to to made a review together with the uh manufactural uh department and have which components was uh available to build a remote control. So for energy sources we have we have to choose between the solar energy, hand dynamo and uh kinetic um well uh kinetic uh technique to to store the energy. We also um we also can put a regular battery in the in the remote control. Victor Engram: Uh Darrin Kinsler: Now Victor Engram: this is what we have decided in the last meeting. But if we use battery Darrin Kinsler: Yeah b uh f well uh I meant uh by by battery I meant uh I will not have a uh a wire between the remote control and the energy source but uh I didn't fou we didn't decide yet which kind of battery we will put inside the the remote. So uh it's a point to discuss. Then uh the case material we have uh uh also several choices, like wood, rubber, titanium or latex. But uh well it's not a a re uh well a real issue for the from the technical uh point of view. Concerning the interface uh we can we can put mm just simple buttons or scrolls or buttons uh much more complicated, but it also requires that the chip to process Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: the button is more complicated so. And uh this is the last point, the choice of chips. So what I have f found is that I think basic battery or kinetic uh energy uh collection is the is the better way to provide energy because I think solar energy wi won't work in a cluttered uh Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: uh environment. So um so I think we can start with these two main things. For the case uh well uh I think that uh titanium is um is a good choice because it's trendy and it's uh it's uh well it's modern and uh user are are are mm will be uh very happy to have a a a nice remote. For the interface uh I think that we can ach achieve uh all the desired functionalities by s just uh using uh rubber buttons, simple buttons and th thus this allow to use a regular chip that are uh well cheaper. Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: And s so uh we can move to the next slide. Wayne Holly: Sorry. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: What is this single curved what does it mean? Darrin Kinsler: Well uh uh i i it's uh it's the the shape of the um Wayne Holly: So it's Darrin Kinsler: of Wayne Holly: it's Darrin Kinsler: the Wayne Holly: not Darrin Kinsler: remote. You you will have the well um the the curve will fit into Wayne Holly: Yo Darrin Kinsler: your Wayne Holly: l Darrin Kinsler: hand when you Wayne Holly: yeah. When Darrin Kinsler: grab Wayne Holly: you hold Darrin Kinsler: the Wayne Holly: on it, it is comfortable to hold. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. It's more confog f comfortable that if these Wayne Holly: Okay. Darrin Kinsler: uh it's completely flat. Wayne Holly: Yeah. And the battery, is it kind of a rechargeable or it doesn't matter? Darrin Kinsler: Yeah the um that's the point. The kinetic one is uh y you can recharge uh by the um Wayne Holly: That that's what it means by Darrin Kinsler: Yeah and Wayne Holly: kinetic. Darrin Kinsler: by well by just by moving the ar uh Wayne Holly: Okay. Darrin Kinsler: your arm the Wayne Holly: Mm-hmm. Darrin Kinsler: mm well the remote will uh accumulate energy. Wayne Holly: Okay. Darrin Kinsler: But I d I don't know it's if it is feasible because I don't know if yet if Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: if the user will move enough Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: to provide Wayne Holly: Okay. Darrin Kinsler: the remote um Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: all the necessary energy. Wayne Holly: Yeah. We we might check with our R_ and D_ department to see if they this product Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: ready Darrin Kinsler: And Wayne Holly: for market. Darrin Kinsler: yeah and so can you go to the next slide please. So and uh that's uh that summarize well what I have said. Wayne Holly: Mm mm. Darrin Kinsler: So Wayne Holly: Wha Darrin Kinsler: uh you're right we can uh see in our uh R_ and D_ uh Wayne Holly: Ah the department. Darrin Kinsler: if the kinetic metal is sufficient Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: to provide enough energy. That's it. Wayne Holly: Uh Wayne Holly: So I um keep in touch with the R_ and D_ department. Darrin Kinsler: Oh yeah I take care, it's all right. Wayne Holly: So the titanium case is the normal case that I'll show you some pictures that I have and you tell Brian Elkins whether they are titanium case or not. Darrin Kinsler: All Wayne Holly: 'Cause I am Darrin Kinsler: right. Wayne Holly: not very sure, Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: plastic, titanium or whatever. There's another point I want to make, is that the uh well you've seen them I le na my presentation that um I point out some why buttons are not the mm not the only ways you can use Yeah. Yeah, maybe n Victor Engram: We will, okay. Victor Engram: Three. Wayne Holly: Yeah. So the user interface is uh i it uses the aspect uh of a computer system, a programme which can be seen or heard or otherwise perceived by the human user and the commands and mechanism the user uses to control its operation and input data. So you s this gives you the ways to input data and we have uh we are more we emphasise more on the graphical user interface here. The idea is to represent buttons as figures, diagrams, symbols and on so you you can easily when you look at the symbols you understand what it is doing. Victor Engram: What's the function of this Wayne Holly: Yeah. Victor Engram: button. Wayne Holly: Yeah. So. Victor Engram: I think it makes the the interface really Wayne Holly: Ea easy to use. So next one. Victor Engram: Graphical user Wayne Holly: function Victor Engram: interface. Wayne Holly: five. So I can use the button, the mouse maybe. Victor Engram: use of pictures. Wayne Holly: Yeah. So next line. So the here are some examples. So they cluster the buttons together. They group them into col they colour them and uh they have different forms as well. Mm but this interface are kind of confusing. Uh basically there are too many buttons. Right. Next one. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: So some people are propose voice recognition and so ah by the way I receive an email from the from one our departments saying that the voice recognition has been used in the coffee machine for this by a company when you tell the you say good morning coffee machine and the machine are reply to you. Darrin Kinsler: Mm-hmm Wayne Holly: So Darrin Kinsler: mm Wayne Holly: I just Darrin Kinsler: mm. Wayne Holly: got an email saying that. And it seems like this voice recognition technology is ready to be used so we might consider that, Darrin Kinsler: Yeah Wayne Holly: supposedly. Darrin Kinsler: fine. Wayne Holly: The next one. Mm so somebody some people use uh some people use a spinning wheel th with the L_C_ display so instead of using the mm buttons you have a L_C_D_ screen and then there you can u you can use that as buttons, you can use that as real so so that could be an option as well. Touch screen, I mean. Victor Engram: Yeah. Wayne Holly: Next one. And some people propose a scroll button. Integrated with push buttons or you may have scroll button instead of p just the push button. Like the one we have here. Uh, next one. So mm Victor Engram: Mm-hmm. Wayne Holly: so there are a few aspects that I collected here. So s basically this deals with special users, children, handicapped people, old people, and uh mm and prog basically they are programmable, specially for children. And uh mm yeah yeah. And then they also secure uh covers, to protect uh secure and hidden programming and battery covers that will protect your settings. So But we don't have to integrate all these complicated features. I'm just saying that the currently in the market there are there are control there are remote controllers f customisable for different people. Yeah, so that's the point. The next one. And uh you see this is the one where you have the protection cover. Mm maybe useful for children, they migh you you they only see the buttons outside. And for adults wh where you have more control you can see the one inside. So the adults might wanna have a key to lock that to pr so children will not touch the button inside. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: S a good idea. Wayne Holly: The next one. So this guy this is another company that provides big buttons. At I see that that is useful for old people and then you don't get it lost. But for our product we don't need a big one because you have voice recognition Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: e eventually with use. And you can call your remote controller if you don't know where it is. T_V_ remote controller where are you? And then, he will beeps and to say that I am here, for example. Is it possible? Victor Engram: We should Brian Elkins: Yeah. Victor Engram: include Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Victor Engram: speech synthesis in this case, no? Wayne Holly: Uh? Darrin Kinsler: Yeah Brian Elkins: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: but uh as Norman say if uh there is uh already a commercial product Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: available who t who do this we we can check uh to integrate Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: it i Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: into our uh new remote control. Wayne Holly: Yeah. And uh, this is another one where you can uh the the the part that's a V_ standing for the volume. So there's a up arrow and a down arrow. top on the top up arrow if Victor Engram: Mm-hmm. Wayne Holly: you up arrow there's a V_ like as as if it's turning down so it's confusing interface, so I Darrin Kinsler: Yeah Wayne Holly: wanna Darrin Kinsler: yeah. Wayne Holly: avoid this kind of thing in the design. And here are is uh here is a s short summary that I summary that I compiled after the findings I found. Big buttons are convenient, voice recognition helps, push buttons, scroll buttons, spinning wheels can be used as navigation tools. And uh user customisable is important and finally simplicity simplicity is the key. Yeah. So we have many concepts Darrin Kinsler: Hmm. Wayne Holly: there but we have to choose later on Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: which ones are important to be used. And basically Darrin Kinsler: Well I Wayne Holly: uh Darrin Kinsler: I think you it's it's it's fine you have uh reviewed all all the Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: possibilities but uh uh well uh i if we consider that uh the user interface is displayed on the T_V_ screen Wayne Holly: Mm-hmm. Darrin Kinsler: I don't think we nee uh we need much buttons in the remote since we Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: we just have to navigate and to have a okay or enter key or Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: things like that, because uh adding wheels or scrolls uh makes the thing more complicated and more Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: expensive also, so. Wayne Holly: Okay. Victor Engram: Or maybe we can include the user manual in the in the remote control and we should have just a button like help and you say uh and you ik you press the button help and maybe you see the the user Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Victor Engram: m Darrin Kinsler: That's Victor Engram: might Darrin Kinsler: a good Victor Engram: in Darrin Kinsler: idea. Victor Engram: the in the T_V_. Darrin Kinsler: To have a help button. Wayne Holly: A help button. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Victor Engram: Yeah. Wayne Holly: So you are display on the screen. Darrin Kinsler: On Victor Engram: On Wayne Holly: So Darrin Kinsler: the T_V_ Victor Engram: T_V_ Darrin Kinsler: screen. On Wayne Holly: on Darrin Kinsler: the Wayne Holly: the Darrin Kinsler: T_V_ Wayne Holly: T_V_ Victor Engram: T_V_ Wayne Holly: screen. Darrin Kinsler: screen Victor Engram: screen. Darrin Kinsler: the Victor Engram: So Darrin Kinsler: uh Victor Engram: just you Wayne Holly: Okay. Victor Engram: push Darrin Kinsler: how to Victor Engram: the Darrin Kinsler: use Victor Engram: button Darrin Kinsler: your Victor Engram: and Darrin Kinsler: remote. Wayne Holly: Okay. Victor Engram: we will Brian Elkins: Oh. Wayne Holly: Okay. So that eliminates all the complicated documentation, Victor Engram: Yeah. Wayne Holly: okay. So Brian Elkins: But Wayne Holly: wi Brian Elkins: people are often enough looking at the help, once they see Victor Engram: If Brian Elkins: the Victor Engram: the Brian Elkins: help Victor Engram: if Brian Elkins: button they say oh this is a complicated stuff. Victor Engram: No In the case Darrin Kinsler: Uh Victor Engram: where Darrin Kinsler: yeah. Victor Engram: they need help, Brian Elkins: It's a psychology. Victor Engram: in the case where they need Darrin Kinsler: In a marketing Victor Engram: help. Darrin Kinsler: point Brian Elkins: Okay. Darrin Kinsler: of view. Brian Elkins: And Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: let us see what the market demands. We could Victor Engram: Yeah. Brian Elkins: just go to my presentation. Darrin Kinsler: But uh wel well I Victor Engram: It's Darrin Kinsler: think Victor Engram: just for user customizable, Brian Elkins: Yeah that's Victor Engram: for Brian Elkins: right. Victor Engram: kids or old people. Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: I mean Victor Engram: So Brian Elkins: it just showed us the remote with an cap which could be used for kids and if you remove the Victor Engram: So it's the same Brian Elkins: Same remote with some Victor Engram: Can be used by both Brian Elkins: Both Victor Engram: kids Brian Elkins: yeah. Victor Engram: and Wayne Holly: Mm. Victor Engram: old people. Wayne Holly: Well uh what I s propose is that uh you know a remote controller, i it could be a cube, is uh a small device that uh looks like a cube and maybe you can just change the um the buttons, if you ch turn one side you get one one buttons, you turn the other side you get the other buttons, so for maybe new generation people who get used to the computer they want lots of controls. Victor Engram: Maybe for kids, kids they like uh Wayne Holly: Small Victor Engram: t no Darrin Kinsler: Uh Victor Engram: l Darrin Kinsler: well. Victor Engram: they Darrin Kinsler: So Victor Engram: like Wayne Holly: Yeah. Victor Engram: to Darrin Kinsler: le le let's see what Wayne Holly: Let's Darrin Kinsler: uh Wayne Holly: see the Darrin Kinsler: what Wayne Holly: market demand. Darrin Kinsler: people Brian Elkins: And Darrin Kinsler: want. Brian Elkins: then we Wayne Holly: What Brian Elkins: decide what Wayne Holly: what market Brian Elkins: what we can Wayne Holly: yes Brian Elkins: yeah. Wayne Holly: yes. Brian Elkins: So we just made an marketing survey of what people need from our remotes and how it could be special from the other remotes. And we got the best on the responses from the questionnaires. Uh we also have some prizes for the most creative solutions. And we found the following solutions which we could which would be helpful for our design. So seventy percent of the users, they find their remote controls very ugly, they don't find it pleasant to use in the size or usage or anything. And eighty percent of the people they are always l I mean they are willing to spend more money if the remote control would look fancy. And the current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. And seventy five percent of the users said they zap a lot. And fifty Victor Engram: Yeah. Brian Elkins: percent say they use only ten percent of the buttons, Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: so Victor Engram: Mm-hmm. Brian Elkins: the rest of the ninety percent of the buttons they're not Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: used most of the times. Wayne Holly: Yes. Brian Elkins: So this were the findings which we found. And also they cited frustrations with the present remote controls. Most of fifty percent of the time the remote controls are lost somewhere in the room and people are always searching for them rather than watching the T_V_. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: And by the time they found the remote control the program is finished. So Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: they're frustrated a lot And um if the remote control is too complicated it takes much time to learn the Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: functionality Darrin Kinsler: Mm, the Brian Elkins: of Darrin Kinsler: functionalities Brian Elkins: it. Darrin Kinsler: yeah. Brian Elkins: So you can just see the percentage, fifty percent people they responded that they always lose their remotes and thirty four percent they say that it's quite difficult to learn if it's too complex. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: So keeping in view all these findings and the frustrations I think this should be the solution for them. We should have an L_C_D_ on the rem remote control. Wayne Holly: Oh. Darrin Kinsler: Well mm w well I I I don't really see the advantage of having uh L_C_D_ on the on the remote control if we have a a Wayne Holly: Big screen. Darrin Kinsler: a big screen and uh display on the screen. It's Brian Elkins: Mm-hmm? Darrin Kinsler: yeah of course it's fancy trendy and so on but it's it's expensive to produce Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: and it's Brian Elkins: I mean Darrin Kinsler: not Brian Elkins: as Darrin Kinsler: really Brian Elkins: our survey says that people are willing to pay more if Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: their remotes are fancy. So if we have a L_C_D_ on the remote, rather than looking onto the T_V_ you just look into a remote and navigate it. It's the same menu Wayne Holly: Mm yeah. Brian Elkins: as we have saw that iPod Darrin Kinsler: Yeah Brian Elkins: remote Darrin Kinsler: yeah. Brian Elkins: control. Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: We just play Wayne Holly: The thing Brian Elkins: around Darrin Kinsler: Yeah but when you play with the iPod you don't have a big screen in front of you, Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: Yeah. Victor Engram: You can Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: s Victor Engram: use this screen instead of the Wayne Holly: Yeah. Victor Engram: big se screen, Wayne Holly: If Victor Engram: instead Wayne Holly: you Victor Engram: of Wayne Holly: re-use Victor Engram: use Wayne Holly: the Victor Engram: the Wayne Holly: existing screen, Victor Engram: yeah. Wayne Holly: we element eliminate the L_C_D_, after all the L_C_D_ just to display Victor Engram: Hmm. Wayne Holly: and if you have the colourful screen you can make the display colourful, fancy, Brian Elkins: Yeah. Wayne Holly: as fancy as the one on the L_C_D_, Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: maybe even better. So Brian Elkins: I mean this were the points Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: which we got from the market Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Yeah yeah. Brian Elkins: demands. So Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: So I th I I Brian Elkins: the other Darrin Kinsler: think Brian Elkins: one Darrin Kinsler: we we can focus on the uh on the fancy look on the uh Wayne Holly: Yeah. More on a fancy Brian Elkins: Yeah that's Wayne Holly: design. Brian Elkins: fine. Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: on the speech Brian Elkins: I mean Darrin Kinsler: recognition Brian Elkins: that's Darrin Kinsler: if the technology is available but well I think Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: L_C_D_ will uh will uh make us spend a lot of money for Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: not so big results. Wayne Holly: Remember Brian Elkins: Mm-hmm. Wayne Holly: we have a s budget Victor Engram: But Wayne Holly: for the cost of producing the remote controller. Victor Engram: Yeah. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: Uh yeah Wayne Holly: So Brian Elkins: we Wayne Holly: i Brian Elkins: have Wayne Holly: is Brian Elkins: uh Wayne Holly: so the thing is you can find out how much an L_C_D_ will cost and then we'll decide again. Brian Elkins: I mean that should be found out by the Industrial Designers. Wayne Holly: Uh maybe you can find out the price and tell us next time. Darrin Kinsler: So Wayne Holly: Is i if Darrin Kinsler: price Wayne Holly: i Darrin Kinsler: of uh L_C_D_ display. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: And it's Darrin Kinsler: And Brian Elkins: always good to have an voice recognition Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: for the remote Wayne Holly: And Brian Elkins: controls. Wayne Holly: also the cost for the speech recognition. Victor Engram: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: Ask our R_ Victor Engram: It's Wayne Holly: and Victor Engram: for Wayne Holly: D_ department. Victor Engram: it's just for small vocabulary. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: Yeah Victor Engram: We Brian Elkins: it's o only Victor Engram: it's Brian Elkins: for Victor Engram: not Brian Elkins: a limited vocabulary, Wayne Holly: Yeah. Victor Engram: yeah. Brian Elkins: say Wayne Holly: And ho Brian Elkins: eighty commands or so. Victor Engram: Yeah. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah okay. Wayne Holly: And also Darrin Kinsler: And Wayne Holly: the scroller button, how much will it cost. Darrin Kinsler: Well uh compared to the to s the simpl simpler Victor Engram: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: simplest Brian Elkins: Mm, Victor Engram: Push Darrin Kinsler: button. Brian Elkins: the scroll Victor Engram: push. Brian Elkins: button, from the survey we never see that people would like to have Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: some scrolling button. Because Darrin Kinsler: Yeah I think Brian Elkins: they they Darrin Kinsler: that Brian Elkins: just they're just frightened to use the scrollings Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: or help button. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah I I I think that uh well uh as we have seen in the in the presentation uh well uh about uh uh fifty percent of the of the percent Wayne Holly: Don't use the buttons. Darrin Kinsler: n choose the button so uh I think to have uh five uh simple Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: button is sufficient Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: for our Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: functionality. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: Yeah. Victor Engram: It doesn't mean that the other buttons are not Wayne Holly: Important. Victor Engram: necessary or important. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. But Victor Engram: But they are just less Brian Elkins: They're Victor Engram: used Brian Elkins: not used much. Victor Engram: compar yeah. Darrin Kinsler: But the uh the thing is is i is that we can add a functionality on the on the T_V_ screen like Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: uh a a list of function Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: and then you choose Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: with the with the button to Wayne Holly: Yeah, Darrin Kinsler: well Wayne Holly: yeah. Darrin Kinsler: you navigate and you Wayne Holly: So so the at Victor Engram: Or Wayne Holly: most Victor Engram: maybe we Wayne Holly: more Victor Engram: can Wayne Holly: power Victor Engram: u Wayne Holly: uh. Victor Engram: uh or maybe we can uh make this the ten percent of button more bigger than the others. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Victor Engram: So. Darrin Kinsler: But if i i if we if we could have a a a display uh g a user interface that is very complete on the T_V_ screen I think that just five buttons are sufficient, Wayne Holly: Yep. Darrin Kinsler: one to go up left right down and uh enter Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: and you you you just select the functionality you want to access Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: or things like Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: that. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: You don't have to to switch to a channel Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: to another Victor Engram: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: uh Brian Elkins: Or it could be like this, as the people say, if they have a L_C_D_ on the remote not on the television. Because when you have the L_C_D_ onto the television screen you miss the picture in the background, we are most focused on the commands. So Darrin Kinsler: Yeah Brian Elkins: if you Darrin Kinsler: but Brian Elkins: have then L_C_D_ in the remote, you just have a menu, and increasing and lower these signs here to change the programs and this menu when you press the menu, in the L_C_D_ displays as you go on pressing the menu it faster displays volume, then the program, then the brightness, contrast and all Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: the stuff. And Darrin Kinsler: Yeah Brian Elkins: accordingly Darrin Kinsler: but Brian Elkins: you can just increase or decrease. Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: if Victor Engram: It's Darrin Kinsler: you look at the L_C_D_ you you don't look at the T_V_ screen so Wayne Holly: Mm. I if Darrin Kinsler: i i it's Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: not really worth to get Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: to have the image if you don't look Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: at, Victor Engram: And Darrin Kinsler: so. Victor Engram: I think it's increases the cost of the Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Victor Engram: the remote control if you use Brian Elkins: Yeah that Victor Engram: L_C_D_. Brian Elkins: has to be checked out. Wayne Holly: I think that Victor Engram: I Wayne Holly: there's no contradiction here, because if there are few buttons, you don't have to look at your your controller any more because you know where the buttons are, Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: so if you wanna control the screen d sh sharpness you just say sharpness and then you t turn you just press lef increase or decrease button and the same for the volume Brian Elkins: Yeah. Wayne Holly: and the channel, if you had the speech recognition there you just shout your channel, just tell your channel and then you don't even have to look at the butto at the controller so finally Brian Elkins: Okay. Wayne Holly: that wil eliminates the the need for L_C_D_, with the help of speech recogniser you can Brian Elkins: I mean, Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: better if we could just check all the cost with L_C_D_ and also with the speech recognition. Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: And then we could find which would Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: would be a more Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: suitable in this case. Wayne Holly: Yeah. A and Brian Elkins: And the third problem was to find the remote control. Always, so fifty percent of the people say they lose the remotes. Darrin Kinsler: Well so we we can think about a well a a vocal command like uh Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: find and when the remote control uh Wayne Holly: Where, Darrin Kinsler: hears Victor Engram: You will Darrin Kinsler: fine Victor Engram: listen to a peep, Darrin Kinsler: well Victor Engram: special Darrin Kinsler: yeah Wayne Holly: yeah. Darrin Kinsler: just Victor Engram: peep. Darrin Kinsler: uh to make him beep Brian Elkins: Yeah that's right, that's exactly Darrin Kinsler: or t Brian Elkins: what I mean by voice commander. Or Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: it could be also Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: something like this, uh it's always Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: boring to change the batteries of the remotes control, Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: so we have some one charger there and whenever we don't use the remote control Wayne Holly: Put it back Brian Elkins: we put Darrin Kinsler: Put Wayne Holly: at the Brian Elkins: it Wayne Holly: charge. Brian Elkins: in the charger. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: And when we're using that t remote and if we misplace somewhere, in the charger we have a small button, and just by pressing the button in the charger the uh remote control beeps, Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: wherever Victor Engram: Okay. Brian Elkins: it is. Darrin Kinsler: And that's a good idea, that's simple, Victor Engram: Yeah. Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: I mean Darrin Kinsler: like Brian Elkins: it Darrin Kinsler: in Brian Elkins: doe Darrin Kinsler: phones. Brian Elkins: it also doesn't require a voice command, because Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: there are Victor Engram: But Brian Elkins: problems Victor Engram: you Brian Elkins: with Victor Engram: don't Brian Elkins: a voice Victor Engram: you don't Brian Elkins: command. Victor Engram: have to move Wayne Holly: Hmm. Victor Engram: the the charger. Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean Wayne Holly: Th Brian Elkins: charger Victor Engram: You Brian Elkins: would Victor Engram: have Wayne Holly: yeah. Brian Elkins: be Victor Engram: to Brian Elkins: fixed Victor Engram: keep Brian Elkins: because it's Victor Engram: it. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: always with Wayne Holly: Mm yeah. Brian Elkins: electricity plugged. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah if Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: there Victor Engram: Okay. Darrin Kinsler: if there uh there Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: is nuff not enough battery. Wayne Holly: Mm. There's Darrin Kinsler: Also Wayne Holly: mm. Darrin Kinsler: and Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: uh uh the remote is lost. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: Yeah that's right. Wayne Holly: That we can what we can do is we can program a function whereby when you press the switch off T_V_ button, the off button, the remote there be s uh instruction on the screen, please charge charge Brian Elkins. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: You never get it lost because uh every time you're off the computer the T_V_ you are asked the the command the T_V_ com remote controller would tell you to put it back to where to the charger. Brian Elkins: It's an good reminder, Wayne Holly: Yeah. Brian Elkins: right. Wayne Holly: So you will never get lost Darrin Kinsler: Okay. Wayne Holly: yeah. Victor Engram: Maybe for some people lazy Wayne Holly: Yeah. Victor Engram: people. Wayne Holly: Yeah because everything is programmed inside. Victor Engram: Yeah yeah. Wayne Holly: So it's it's uh it's all about strategy, y Brian Elkins: And of course the final point is a fancy look. Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: As we have seen earlier the remotes which were displayed by Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: Norman they weren't fancy, Darrin Kinsler: They were ugly. Brian Elkins: I mean mm Darrin Kinsler: They Brian Elkins: very Wayne Holly: Yeah, Brian Elkins: big or Wayne Holly: yeah. Brian Elkins: something Victor Engram: Mm. Brian Elkins: with lot of buttons. I think we should have something Darrin Kinsler: Well Brian Elkins: it Darrin Kinsler: the last one with the um Wayne Holly: With uh two two Darrin Kinsler: yeah with the two parts was Wayne Holly: two parts Darrin Kinsler: uh Wayne Holly: controller. Darrin Kinsler: original, Brian Elkins: I mean Darrin Kinsler: so Brian Elkins: uh I mean uh I mean uh you see if it's like that even a kid who wants to have a control he could just plug it and Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: use it, you can't avoid him. But you can have an button for child lock. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: So just by pressing the button with Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: some code, you t you put a lock Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: onto the remote, Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: so that he can't use even Darrin Kinsler: Well Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: we can think about uh having uh on the on the on the user interface when you switch on the T_V_ Brian Elkins: Mm Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: uh Darrin Kinsler: you can uh well write a code or choose a category, Victor Engram: Or Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: if it is kids, uh Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: things like that. Brian Elkins: That's right. Wayne Holly: Mm. Victor Engram: Or maybe you have to to show some specific programmes for kids and Wayne Holly: Mm. Victor Engram: then just Wayne Holly: these Victor Engram: just Wayne Holly: are probl Victor Engram: yeah Wayne Holly: yeah. Victor Engram: just push uh kids button Wayne Holly: Mm. Mm. Victor Engram: so it's automatically. Wayne Holly: Mm. Victor Engram: So if he. Brian Elkins: I think these other four points they're the market demands and so it's for the user interface design Darrin Kinsler: So for Brian Elkins: and Darrin Kinsler: mm Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: industrial Victor Engram: Yeah. Brian Elkins: design Darrin Kinsler: yeah. Brian Elkins: to Darrin Kinsler: So Brian Elkins: just Darrin Kinsler: for Brian Elkins: think Darrin Kinsler: my part I will check the prices the um the prices difference uh of what to use, where to use, and s Brian Elkins: Yeah Darrin Kinsler: uh Brian Elkins: I think it Darrin Kinsler: and Brian Elkins: should Darrin Kinsler: so Brian Elkins: be clearer Darrin Kinsler: on. Brian Elkins: for us in the next meeting that Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: th uh these could be included. Wayne Holly: Mm. I think we need to define also a s the set of vocabularies for the speech recogniser Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Wayne Holly: because uh if you want uh say we can sort by channels or sort by T_V_ programs, you have to decide a category of vocabularies for them. If numbers, they're easy, Victor Engram: Mm-hmm. Wayne Holly: but if name the channel by by name Darrin Kinsler: Well I think we can we can have just numbers for channels and you can say to your remote control like uh sports and then on the T_V_ you have a list with with uh uh well Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: with sports program playing now and Brian Elkins: No, Darrin Kinsler: and uh Brian Elkins: we have a problem there. You see uh if you have a voice commands and you are s you are watching a score on uh basketball score or something, and if the score comes twenty four thirty five, you've just say twenty five and Victor Engram: Yeah Brian Elkins: suddenly Victor Engram: it's yeah. Brian Elkins: the screen the channel goes to twenty five. So I think Darrin Kinsler: That's Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: there Darrin Kinsler: right, Brian Elkins: should be Darrin Kinsler: yeah, Brian Elkins: a prefix Darrin Kinsler: yeah. Brian Elkins: to some numbers Darrin Kinsler: Well but well e every possible word uh has a probability to come about of the T_V_ Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: so. Brian Elkins: I mean the the you just check all the probability that saying T_V_ twenty five and just ordinary twenty five. Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah Brian Elkins: Ordinary Darrin Kinsler: yeah. Brian Elkins: twenty five you almost there's a probability of being said Darrin Kinsler: Yeah Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: but Brian Elkins: around sixty Darrin Kinsler: well Brian Elkins: seventy percent Darrin Kinsler: okay. Brian Elkins: and T_V_ twenty five I dunno it will be round Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: about one or two percent. Victor Engram: Mm-hmm. Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: So it's better to have some prefix before the number. Wayne Holly: But I I I think that the user would like wou would like to associate the channel or call the channel rather than than the numbers. Brian Elkins: Yeah something, some code. Wayne Holly: You say numbe channel number five of the T_V_ correspond to something else Darrin Kinsler: Yeah Wayne Holly: in Darrin Kinsler: yeah. Wayne Holly: the channel. So some people may want to say, I want to see this Darrin Kinsler: Mm Wayne Holly: channel. Darrin Kinsler: mm. Well Brian Elkins: That will Darrin Kinsler: I Brian Elkins: be too big. And Victor Engram: Or Brian Elkins: it will Victor Engram: just Brian Elkins: be difficult for the vocabulary also. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Check with the v R_ and D_ department the Victor Engram: It's Wayne Holly: capability Victor Engram: difficult Wayne Holly: of Victor Engram: to Wayne Holly: recogniser. Victor Engram: to just say the the name of the channel. Wayne Holly: Uh? Victor Engram: It will be difficult to say just the name of the channel. Because Wayne Holly: Well, Victor Engram: you have Wayne Holly: it's Victor Engram: to Wayne Holly: convenient Victor Engram: s t Wayne Holly: for Victor Engram: uh Wayne Holly: the user. Victor Engram: a ch yeah but you have to to have all the name of the channel in your vocabulary. Brian Elkins: Als might be you just forgot Victor Engram: Or maybe Brian Elkins: the channel name, you Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: kno only know the number. Then Wayne Holly: The Victor Engram: Or maybe Wayne Holly: uh Victor Engram: the user Wayne Holly: uh Victor Engram: can create Wayne Holly: mm. Victor Engram: his own vocabulary, Wayne Holly: Mm. Victor Engram: just pronouncing the Wayne Holly: I I think that Victor Engram: the Wayne Holly: I Victor Engram: name Wayne Holly: have Victor Engram: of channels and Wayne Holly: mm Victor Engram: include Wayne Holly: mm Victor Engram: in the vocabulary. Wayne Holly: I think there's another way you can do is that uh you can uh if when the user ch press a button to choose the channel for example, then what you can do is that the you can make the T_V_ screen to split them into small little little squares of images where you you you have a snapshot of every channel, so let's say it's a four by four matrix of the images, so now what you do is f looking at the all the sixteen channels available at one time, you just use the control button uh, you Brian Elkins: Yeah, Wayne Holly: just you Brian Elkins: the. Wayne Holly: you just choose the the option you want and then you just hit the button and then you go to that channel. So Victor Engram: Or lets the user create his Wayne Holly: Mm. Victor Engram: own vocabulary Wayne Holly: So Victor Engram: of Wayne Holly: you Victor Engram: channel. Wayne Holly: you don't use the speech recogniser in that way. Victor Engram: No. Just you have uh in the beginning you have uh t you have to train you have to create the vocabulary Wayne Holly: Oh, okay. Victor Engram: by yourself. Wayne Holly: Yeah. Darrin Kinsler: Well I uh I Victor Engram: By Darrin Kinsler: also Victor Engram: associating each channel with the name or Darrin Kinsler: I I also think about uh another problem, if if there is uh more than one person who is watching T_V_ Brian Elkins: Yeah Darrin Kinsler: the Victor Engram: And Darrin Kinsler: s Victor Engram: for Brian Elkins: yeah, Victor Engram: each one Darrin Kinsler: well Victor Engram: has Darrin Kinsler: the Victor Engram: his Darrin Kinsler: the speech uh Victor Engram: own. Darrin Kinsler: r recogniser should be able to distinguish between the two. Because uh Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: I remember when I was a young child Victor Engram: Or Darrin Kinsler: with Victor Engram: you have Darrin Kinsler: my sister Victor Engram: to Wayne Holly: Yeah, I wanna watch Brian Elkins: Yeah. Victor Engram: s Darrin Kinsler: we Wayne Holly: this, I wanna watch Darrin Kinsler: yeah Wayne Holly: that. Darrin Kinsler: we always want to w to watch different emission at the at the same time so it's a pr it could be a problem if uh if well if someone passes by when you are watching T_V_ and say oh T_V_ thirty and just run, Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: s Brian Elkins: A and in the same lines we would have a one more problem. If we are using the television in the different environments, say in the factories or in the shops Darrin Kinsler: Yeah, yeah. Brian Elkins: where there is a lot of noise Victor Engram: Yeah. Brian Elkins: and this voice commands if they fail to work, that would bring a bad name bad uh reputation Wayne Holly: Mm. Brian Elkins: for our company. So Victor Engram: Mm. Brian Elkins: I think we should specify some pre-requirements if we want to use a voice commands, say that it should be used in an silent homely environment or Darrin Kinsler: Yeah. Brian Elkins: s something. Victor Engram: Or we can switch on or switch off the the special, Brian Elkins: Yeah that's right that should be an option. Victor Engram: yeah. Wayne Holly: Mm. Darrin Kinsler: Yeah that's well I think that's a good uh a good option because it's simple and uh simple Wayne Holly: Hmm. Darrin Kinsler: to implement also, so. Brian Elkins: I think these are the practical problems. So we need to take care of them in the design. Victor Engram: Maybe we'll discuss them in next meeting. It's time to close this meeting. Darrin Kinsler: Okay. Wayne Holly: Well, you Brian Elkins: Okay. Wayne Holly: you stay a five minutes. Brian Elkins: Oh it came there on three minutes back Victor Engram: Yeah. Brian Elkins: so we are I think we can just press the Victor Engram: Okay. Brian Elkins: okay. Darrin Kinsler: Okay. So Victor Engram: Thanks Darrin Kinsler: I see Victor Engram: for Darrin Kinsler: ya. Brian Elkins: Okay. Victor Engram: your collaborations. Brian Elkins: See you another thirty minutes.

Darrin Kinsler presented options for each component. He suggested kinetic energy, a titanium case, and rubber push buttons. The group will ask if the kinetic energy component can provide enough energy. Wayne Holly introduced the graphical user interface to the group and suggested using an LCD screen. He presented several existing products and suggested the following: large buttons; voice recognition; either push, scroll, or spinning buttons; and incorporating some customizable components. The group discussed including a help button; it was decided that it would make the device seem more complicated. Brian Elkins presented that users found remotes too easily lost, complicated, and ugly. He showed that users were willing to pay more for a fancy remote. He suggested the LCD screen; the group felt that it was better to utilize the user's television as a display screen, but that they would inquire about cost before deciding. The group will inquire about the cost of voice recognition and scroll buttons. The group discussed incorporating a locator function and customization for children. They discussed the sensitivity of the voice recognizer to other noises; the group will ask about the capability of the recognizer.

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Billy Turner: Uh welcome back after lunch, hope uh you had a good lunch together. For uh this meeting the main agenda okay uh to discuss about the conceptual design meeting. Okay and the agenda will be the opening and uh that's uh the product manager or secretary that's William Fett and uh the presentations from the Christine and uh Agnes and from Mister Ed. And finally in this meeting we have to decide and we are to take a decision on the remote control concept and uh the functional design minutes, I think it's uh little bit uh low, but I I hope we can finish it up so I'll handle to the the functional team, to the Christine, okay, to discuss about uh the components concept. Ezra Gustason: Okay. So uh, if you could open the presentation. I'm number two. Billy Turner: You're number two. 'Kay Ezra Gustason: Components design, there we go. So uh can we put it in slide show mode? Yeah. Billy Turner: The next one. Ezra Gustason: Right here, is that little that one, yes please. Thank you. I'll take the mouse. So uh we were looking he specifically at the components uh the following components, uh the case, the power supply, uh the means of communications with the television set. instance we talked sort of speech recognition, you have to have microphone well no you don't actually I haven't have to have microphone in the device, but um maybe you do have it a a way it has to it has to hear the speaker Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. Ezra Gustason: and um, so it could be in the television set, could be in the device, but somewhere you have to put the microphone, um and a w a way of making beeps or sounds so you can find it when it's gets lost. Um so the other w thing that we So. Our method for going about this is we've looked at uh the histo hi historical record, what's worked, what hasn't and then we also um we wanted to evaluate some new materials and we contacted manufacturing for their input because, course, we m might come up and choose the material that then manufacturing didn't have the technologies or capabilities to offer us, so uh this is the approach that we took during our um our research. So um for the case, um we told we were making a specifica specific assumption that it would be curved in design. Course, you know, I wanted it to be expandable and shrinkable, but um that uh doesn't seem to b be one of the choic non-option we can uh we can really seriously explore, so then we were thinking about um rubber, but um unfortunately that's been eliminated because of the heat uh factor and th um there might be some problems with the m uh how it's uh goes with the board. Uh and uh then th plastic also has this problem of melting and it's brittle it gets brittle after a while, so um we still had titanium and and wood available, but um unfortunately uh uh titanium's also been eliminated uh, the m people in manufacturing said that you couldn't make d curved cases out of titanium, although how Apple did it with th PowerBook I'm not su quite sure but uh nevertheless um they've eliminated all of our options except wood. So, Michael Durham: At least environmentally Ezra Gustason: this Michael Durham: friendly. Ezra Gustason: is our finding. And a as she said, it's an environmentally friendly uh material, so we're we're currently uh proposing, uh we'll get to all my personal preferences in just a second. So then there's this other matter of the chips and um well we could use a simple design on the board, but uh these simple chips, but that's only works for the bu you don't get very much um intelligence with this simple one. And um then there was the regular which I regret that I've forgotten exactly why I'm eliminating that one. Uh the other option was this advanced chip on print, and uh we liked th we we found that it it includes this infrared sender, which w 'member the beam was that was an important component of finding the right chip. And uh manufacturing has told us that they've um uh recently developed a uh a sensor and a speaker that would uh be integrated into this advanced chip on print, so uh we we uh now jumping right to our personal preferences um I I'd really think we should, you know, use some of uh some really exotic woods, like um, you know uh, well you guys come from tropical countries so you can kinda think of some trees and some nice woods. I think that people will might really want to design their own cases, you see, they could do sort of a this um three-dimensional design on the internet, and then they could submit their orders, kinda like you submit a custom car order, you know, and you can choose the colour and the size of the wheels and the colours of the leather and things like that, and then I uh think we should go with the solar cells as well as the um microphone and speaker on the advanced chip. So this is the findings of our research and my recommendations um for the new remote control w um would be to have um have it be made out of wood. Do you have any problems with that? Billy Turner: Can you go back uh one slide? Ezra Gustason: I'm not sure, how do I Oh, I know, let's see. Michael Durham: Thank Ezra Gustason: Let's go back Michael Durham: you. Ezra Gustason: up here. Michael Durham: Yeah. Billy Turner: Yes, uh question, uh, what's mean exactly, advanced chip on print? What's the meaning of that? Ezra Gustason: I think it's um um a multiple uh chip design um and it's uh maybe printed on to the circuit board. Billy Turner: Mm-hmm. Ezra Gustason: Uh I could find out more about that Billy Turner: Yeah, is Ezra Gustason: uh Billy Turner: it means Ezra Gustason: before Billy Turner: it's Ezra Gustason: the Billy Turner: on Ezra Gustason: next Billy Turner: the Ezra Gustason: fi next meeting. Billy Turner: yeah is it on a micro-proc micro-processor based or uh Ezra Gustason: I don't know, but I'll find out more at our next Billy Turner: Okay, Ezra Gustason: meeting. Billy Turner: tha that would be great, so if you find out from the technology background, okay, so that would be good. Ezra Gustason: Sounds good. Michael Durham: Why was the plastic eliminated as a possible material? Ezra Gustason: Because um it gets brittle, cracks Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. Ezra Gustason: Um We want we expect these um uh these remote controls to be around for several hundred years. So. Good Michael Durham: Whic William Fett: Wow, Ezra Gustason: ex Good Michael Durham: Which Ezra Gustason: expression. William Fett: good expression. Well after us. Michael Durham: Although I think I think with wood though you'd run into the same types of problems, wouldn't you, I mean it chips, it if you drop it, uh it's I'm not su Billy Turner: So so you're not convinced about William Fett: Actually, I'm Billy Turner: the William Fett: ready to Billy Turner: the William Fett: sell Billy Turner: wood, William Fett: it. Billy Turner: yes. Ezra Gustason: you're what? William Fett: I'm Michael Durham: I think William Fett: ready to sell it. Michael Durham: if you re if you use Ezra Gustason: You Michael Durham: really Ezra Gustason: think? Michael Durham: good quality wood then it might work William Fett: No Ezra Gustason: And William Fett: y Michael Durham: but Ezra Gustason: you Michael Durham: you can't Ezra Gustason: could William Fett: no Michael Durham: just use Ezra Gustason: you could William Fett: no Ezra Gustason: sell William Fett: no, Ezra Gustason: oils William Fett: the o the Ezra Gustason: with William Fett: only Ezra Gustason: it, William Fett: w Ezra Gustason: to William Fett: the Ezra Gustason: take William Fett: only Ezra Gustason: care William Fett: wood Ezra Gustason: of it. William Fett: you can use are the ones that are hard, extremely Michael Durham: Yeah, William Fett: hard Michael Durham: exactly, William Fett: wood, but Michael Durham: yeah. William Fett: there are some very pretty woods out there. Ezra Gustason: Well I'm glad William Fett: That's actually Ezra Gustason: you William Fett: very innovative idea. Ezra Gustason: Okay, good. Sorr having a hard time keeping wi control over my face. William Fett: Well it's actually very n Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Michael Durham: The stain. William Fett: I mean it's each person is gonna have their own personalised, individualised speech recognition remote Ezra Gustason: Mm. William Fett: control in wood, that's not on the market. Billy Turner: Yeah, so it it's looks good the the design the functional design uh, what about yo you? Michael Durham: Um, in terms of comments on this or Billy Turner: Yes, Michael Durham: in terms of my Billy Turner: in t Michael Durham: own Billy Turner: yes, William Fett: In turns of wow. Billy Turner: in term in terms of comments first Ezra Gustason: She works in the cubicle next to William Fett so she's uh she was already a little bit prepared Michael Durham: Y Ezra Gustason: for this. Michael Durham: yeah. Ezra Gustason: Luckily Ed was not. William Fett: Wood? Michael Durham: I think we can get the quality materials then it shouldn't influence the design principles too much, which you'll see with my presentation. One thing we'd have to check though is what the users whether how quickly the novelty wears off Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Michael Durham: of having Ezra Gustason: Yeah, you wouldn't wanna have Michael Durham: uh Ezra Gustason: to have splinters in your Michael Durham: Yeah, Ezra Gustason: hand while you're Michael Durham: for Ezra Gustason: using Michael Durham: example. Ezra Gustason: your Michael Durham: So, have to see how kid-friendly it is and and all that, but Ezra Gustason: It's really good if your dog gets ahold of it, they can use it for teething. William Fett: They do that anyway with the rubber and plastic, so, Ezra Gustason: Yeah, William Fett: and Ezra Gustason: they do it with other William Fett: chew Ezra Gustason: materials William Fett: 'em up. Ezra Gustason: as well, yeah. William Fett: And chew 'em up. Billy Turner: Okay then, uh, let's move to Agnes. Michael Durham: Sure. Ezra Gustason: Oh, I'm sorry. Billy Turner: S you're Billy Turner: You are in participant Michael Durham: One point three, Billy Turner: three. Michael Durham: yeah Uh, yeah. Billy Turner: This one? Michael Durham: I think so, yeah. Yeah, that's the one. So, it's a very short presentation, 'cause I'm actually gonna draw you the layout on the board so if you want to just go straight to the second slide, um, which basically shows, sort of I took the ideas that we were talking about last time um and tried to put that into the remote control so the things that y you can actually see on it are the on off switch, volume and channel control, the menu access button, ergonomic shape, which I completely agree with Christine's idea to have it sort of molded, so it's slightly more ergonomic and comfortable to hold than the r standard very straight remote controls. And actually the other thing with the wood if we take your customising idea, is that people can actually do sort of quasi-measurements on their hand size, so if someone has larger hands, Ezra Gustason: Right, my hand Michael Durham: you have Ezra Gustason: is Michael Durham: a wider Ezra Gustason: uh different Michael Durham: remote Ezra Gustason: size Michael Durham: control. Ezra Gustason: than yours for example. Michael Durham: So, that's actually a really good idea for customi customisability. Um, one thing I thought might be kind of interesting is to put a flip screen on it, just like you have on flip phones, so that you don't have this case where someone sits on the remote control or accidentally puts their hand on it, especially if you have little kids around, they're not pressing the buttons while you're trying to watch a T_V_ show and accidentally change the channel Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Michael Durham: or turn it off. And also um you had issues with the batteries running out, so I thought maybe we could put a little battery life-light on it that kind of goes dimmer and dimmer and dimmer as your battery is starts to die. And in terms of invisible features, audio and um tactile feedback on button presses Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Michael Durham: and, like you said, speech recognition. So, in terms of what this thing would actually look like Despite working in interface design, I'm not the greatest artist in the world, so you'll have to forgive William Fett. You'd have something like this with an on-off switch fairly big, sort of in the corner and by itself, so you don't accidentally turn your T_V_ off while you're trying to manoeuvre other buttons. And then you have sort of one of those toggle displays for, oops, channels and volume, sort of for surfing channels and then volume, so the volume would be the up and down, 'cause volume goes up and down and then channels left to right. And then here you'd have your sort of standard, telephonish number pad. And then on one side you would have an access to the menu on your T_V_ and on the other side a way to turn off the voice control. So that if the user doesn't Ezra Gustason: Mm. Michael Durham: want to use their voice, they can just turn it off and you don't have the remote control Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Michael Durham: accidentally changing things on you. Um, so again you can have a little L_C_D_ light somewhere, the flip thing and Have I forgotten anything? I don't think so. So, William Fett: No. Michael Durham: as you can see, it's a very very simple design, which is one of the things I really wanted to keep, is keep it simple, not have too many buttons, not have too many functionalities thrown into it. Think the design can pretty much carry over to everything, although with the wood the flip screen might have to do something slightly Ezra Gustason: A Michael Durham: different. Ezra Gustason: hinge. Be like a copper hinge or Michael Durham: Yeah. Ezra Gustason: you know. Michael Durham: But you also have to d start watching out for the weight, 'cause depending on how much the the flip screen will add to the weight Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Michael Durham: of the remote control, you don't want it to start getting too heavy. Ezra Gustason: Mm. Michael Durham: But that's the general layout with the general functionalities, if we come up with something else. As you can see, there's still lots of space on the actual remote control and if you do it customisably, you can make this thing fairly small or fairly o large, Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm, Michael Durham: depending on personal Ezra Gustason: mm-hmm. Michael Durham: preferences. William Fett: Hmm. Michael Durham: So, that's pretty much all I had to say, I mean, everything else in terms of design issues. just depending on where your thumb is and you tend to use the the volume control and uh the browsing more than the actual number pad, so that would be sort of in direct line of where your thumb goes when you are holding the Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Michael Durham: remote control, the number pad a little bit lower 'cause it's used Ezra Gustason: Mm. Michael Durham: less frequently. Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Michael Durham: So once we decide exactly what we want, then we can figure out the exact positioning, but more or less I think it should go along those lines. Billy Turner: So what's your, uh, the comments or uh s William Fett: Simple design. It's what consumers want. Billy Turner: Okay William Fett: It's almost like, Houston, we have a product here. Problem is obviously gonna be cost. Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. William Fett: Okay, I also have a f very simple presentation, Billy Turner: Mm-hmm. William Fett: because for the marketing point you have to see Billy Turner: Yeah. William Fett: what the consumers want. Michael Durham: Yeah. William Fett: I also have uh copied a different type of remote. If you can find William Fett, where I'm at. There should only be one in here. trend watch. Ezra Gustason: Sure. William Fett: It's being modified. They're stealing our product. We've been giving simple questionnaires in different areas because th obviously we have to see what the com consumers are looking for today, 'cause uh trends change very very quickly. In six months maybe this idea is already gone out the window, so it's gonna be a question how fast we can act. Uh they already erased the rest of mine, huh. Ezra Gustason: No, f Michael Durham: No, no. Ezra Gustason: go to findings. William Fett: No no, no no. 'Cause I had another comment there. Uh the market trend. This is what we know from the last uh from the questionnaires from the the all the p surveys we've done, fancy and feel-good, that's what we've been looking for, something that feels good in the hand, that's easy to use. Looking for next generation of innovation, because all the remotes out there now, they're all very similar, they all do the same thing, we have to have something completely different. Okay? Easy to use, has always has become has become another major interest that uh, with the whiteboard we can see that it's a remote that's easy to use. And I think this is another thing that's interesting is the consumers actually willing to pay the price for exciting tel technology. So even if we have a product that may be more expensive, if it comes out right, if they look it looks and feels good and has technology. The second two, you can see the last one is a very easy simple design. The second one, there is about uh forty-five thousand different buttons on it, which makes it fairly hard to read, uh very hard to use. The first one, I see that they put in a display. Now there's something else uh with the little flip-up, now we're adding all kinds of things in, but with Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. William Fett: the little flip-up, if you have a little display on the flip-up that when you close it everything is locked. Michael Durham: Yeah. William Fett: Maybe the display also makes it easier to use, because sometimes when you're looking for buttons, maybe if you see a display Ezra Gustason: Context-sensitive instructions, Michael Durham: Right. William Fett: Okay Ezra Gustason: depending on what the tel what mode the T_V_ or the D_V_D_ or something William Fett: Because Ezra Gustason: else William Fett: I've Ezra Gustason: is William Fett: seen Ezra Gustason: in. Michael Durham: Especially you William Fett: mostly Michael Durham: might need something William Fett: the standard Michael Durham: like that for William Fett: ones, Michael Durham: training William Fett: yeah. Michael Durham: the speech recognition William Fett: Now you have it now you Michael Durham: and William Fett: have one with the very simple also. The idea is simple, but with a display, Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. William Fett: so you can see what you're doing. So maybe if we can incorporate the easiness of use, Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. William Fett: trendy, fancy, feels good, uh with a display, wood, designer wood, designer colours, Ezra Gustason: You William Fett: we Ezra Gustason: know, William Fett: might've Ezra Gustason: maybe what you could do is when somebody orders the device Ezra Gustason you could send them like um a uh uh b some sort of a foam rubber um ball, Michael Durham: Oh yeah. Ezra Gustason: and then they would squeeze it, and it would take the shape of their hand. Michael Durham: Yeah, so it's really molded to Ezra Gustason: To t Michael Durham: to your specific William Fett: Mm-hmm. Ezra Gustason: an and then you would know like um what the geometry of their hands would be and uh William Fett: How hard they squeeze? Ezra Gustason: Yes William Fett: Resistance Ezra Gustason: you'd know what kind William Fett: resistance, Ezra Gustason: of wood to get. William Fett: right. Michael Durham: But th for that you'd also have to do sort of an average across families and Ezra Gustason: That's Michael Durham: things like Ezra Gustason: right, Michael Durham: that Ezra Gustason: that's Michael Durham: if Ezra Gustason: right, you wouldn't Michael Durham: unless Ezra Gustason: wanna go Michael Durham: everyone Ezra Gustason: too far Michael Durham: has their Ezra Gustason: down Michael Durham: own Ezra Gustason: that. Michael Durham: personal remote. Ezra Gustason: Oh that that actually would uh increase the um the revenues Michael Durham: The sales, Ezra Gustason: we could expect, Michael Durham: yeah. Billy Turner: The Ezra Gustason: yeah. Billy Turner: Yeah. I hope so. William Fett: No, but incorporating the three uh obviously it'd be something totally new on the market, Michael Durham: Yeah. William Fett: totally different and from Michael Durham: Well, already the customisability is a really good sort of new William Fett: Although, what Michael Durham: gimmick. William Fett: it was it uh it was uh Nokia that came out with this changeable colours. Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. William Fett: Right, Michael Durham: Yeah. William Fett: you take it apart, and put on another Michael Durham: Yeah. William Fett: face, take it off and put on another Ezra Gustason: Right, William Fett: face Ezra Gustason: mm. William Fett: and Michael Durham: And William Fett: then Michael Durham: that took off, William Fett: they sold Michael Durham: yeah, William Fett: millions, Michael Durham: yeah. William Fett: millions. So. So say with the f with the findings, with the research, easy to use something totally new. Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. William Fett: We have to come up with something totally new that is not on the market. Ezra Gustason: We'd also have to wor um consider that uh who we were gonna get to make these custom cases in terms of manufacturing processes, we might wanna um learn about um labour laws. You know in different countries and stuff wher so we can do it cheap, but you don't wanna exploit uh labour in um third world countries. Billy Turner: Yeah. Ezra Gustason: So actually you could turn it y turn around and say that you're uh par the reason the cost is high for the device is because um you're paying a a working wage to the person who made the device. Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. Billy Turner: Yeah, but we can get a production in, uh, countries like, uh, Ezra Gustason: Cost Billy Turner: India Ezra Gustason: of living is Billy Turner: yes, Ezra Gustason: low. Billy Turner: yes, countries like India or China or Malaysia, so you can go a better features and better price and you can sell more. So Ezra Gustason: Good, well th that'd be something that manufacturing would have to Billy Turner: Yeah, Ezra Gustason: um Billy Turner: yeah, so Ezra Gustason: explore more Michael Durham: Mm yeah. Ezra Gustason: and Billy Turner: Yes. William Fett: Where Ezra Gustason: to William Fett: w Where Ezra Gustason: where William Fett: it would be manufactured Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. William Fett: is is Billy Turner: So William Fett: another step. Billy Turner: Yeah, Ezra Gustason: Yeah. Billy Turner: so William Fett: We're here to design, Billy Turner: Yes uh, but uh William Fett: come up Billy Turner: that William Fett: with Billy Turner: that William Fett: a nice Billy Turner: we William Fett: product. Billy Turner: can that we can Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. Billy Turner: talk about the production later, okay, depends on the the quantity, okay. Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Billy Turner: So we don't need to have our own uh fabric factory or something, so we can have a tie-up with who the do the fabric, okay, for the different uh electronics items, then we can have a business tie-up and to get to cut the cost, okay, to sell more. So, but uh le let's decide first about the components concept and uh interface concept, okay, if is acceptable for both of you, what uh Ed was talking. And your design whether you want with the display Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. Billy Turner: or without display or just a simple, so Michael Durham: I think it depends, I mean I think it's a good idea, but we need to really think about how useful it's gonna be because theoretically with the T_V_ you already have a big display right in front of you. Billy Turner: Yeah. Ezra Gustason: Hmm. Michael Durham: So, if we're trying to keep costs down, then maybe sacrificing the display Ezra Gustason: Hmm. Michael Durham: is a way to go. I mean it depends on how much putting a display costs and Ezra Gustason: Hmm. Michael Durham: what it would be used for very specifically what it would be used for, Ezra Gustason: Mm-hmm. Michael Durham: 'cause if it's only used for one little thing, then putting in a big display case or a big display that's probably expensive just to do the training on the chip for the speech recognition or whatever, may not be the most cost-efficient way to go, but that's just sort of speculation, I mean. Ezra Gustason: What do you think Ed? Do you he liked the display in one of the concepts that you showed, um, do you know how much it costs, um, to to add a little display like this William Fett: No. Ezra Gustason: uh? William Fett: No Ezra Gustason: Do William Fett: no Ezra Gustason: you wanna take an action William Fett: p spec Ezra Gustason: item William Fett: It's Ezra Gustason: to go find out? William Fett: 'cause we have to find out cost on it. Ezra Gustason: Okay. Sorry William Fett: Um, Ezra Gustason: about that. William Fett: no that's no problem. I'm here for the pushing it after it's made. Billy Turner: Yes. William Fett: I will market it. Once we get a price on it then we can market it. Ezra Gustason: So the the advanced chip on print is what um what we've we've deci we've determined and the uh engineering industrial design is the recommendation, and um I think we've kinda come to some agreement regarding um this concept of a wooden case. Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. Ezra Gustason: A customisable and William Fett: Nice beautiful mahogany Michael Durham: What about William Fett: red Michael Durham: the William Fett: wooden Michael Durham: buttons, William Fett: case. Michael Durham: would Would the buttons be wood too, or Ezra Gustason: Uh I don't think so, Billy Turner: I don't think so. Ezra Gustason: no, I think they could be rubber Billy Turner: Yes. Ezra Gustason: like they are now, Billy Turner: Yes. Ezra Gustason: so you have that Billy Turner: Don't Ezra Gustason: tactile Billy Turner: looks nice Ezra Gustason: experience Billy Turner: uh. Ezra Gustason: of Billy Turner: Yeah, so uh what we'll do is, uh, we will stick with the the simple design for time being until uh th Ed find outs about the how much it's cost to the extra, in case we go for the display. Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. Billy Turner: Okay. So maybe what you can do is uh, both of you, you can come up with the the prototype, okay, the model. Michael Durham: Okay. Billy Turner: Okay? Michael Durham: Sure. Ezra Gustason: So um are we done with this meeting? Billy Turner: Yeah, I hope, if is it okay if uh they will come up with the prototype design, okay. Then they can show you how it looks like, and then we can uh submit to the I will submit to the management. Okay? Then meantime you can come up with the price, how much it's cost as extra for uh the display. Ezra Gustason: And a marketing Billy Turner: An Ezra Gustason: strategy. Billy Turner: and the marketing William Fett: And Billy Turner: strategy, William Fett: marketing strategy, Billy Turner: that's very William Fett: thank Billy Turner: important, William Fett: you. Billy Turner: okay. Yes. How much William Fett: Fired. Billy Turner: you can how mu how much how much you can sell extra. Of course you'll make money too, so it it's not only pay-out, you make money too, your commission. Okay, so, any questions? Michael Durham: No. Billy Turner: So, by next meeting, so, please come up with the the prototype, okay, then uh, then we can proceed from there. Michael Durham: Okay. Billy Turner: It's okay? Michael Durham: Mm-hmm. Billy Turner: So thanks for all your uh efforts and coming for the meeting again, and see you soon then. Michael Durham: Okay. Billy Turner: Okay? Thank you.

Ezra Gustason gave her components concept presentation, which presented the components that will be used and how they will be integrated into the functional design. She announced that their only choice for casing material was wood, so she suggested an idea of having customizable wood cases. Michael Durham gave her presentation on the user interface concept for the product, and gave a basic layout of the remote's key functions. William Fett presented the marketing concept and discussed including a display to facilitate use. The group discussed the unique, custom design of the remote, and quickly talked about finding a manufacturer that could make the custom cases cheaply that still paid fair wages. The group also discussed whether or not to incorporate the display into the design, and decided to wait until the cost of adding that feature was known before adding it to the design. Ezra Gustason and Michael Durham were instructed to begin building a prototype, and William Fett was instructed to work on the marketing strategy as well as research the cost of the display component.

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Phillip Parkison: Hello again. Mark Fleming: Hi. John Sanchez: Hello. Peter Southern: Hey, Project Manager. John Sanchez: Um, Project Manager, I Phillip Parkison: Mm yeah. John Sanchez: have something tell you. I have a little problems with my laptop. Phillip Parkison: Okay. John Sanchez: And uh s s s so I had a little less time to complete. Phillip Parkison: Okay. John Sanchez: No, a little problem, uh big problem. I just thought Peter Southern: What was it, John Sanchez: Um, Peter Southern: problem? John Sanchez: it didn't work anymore. Peter Southern: The laptop? John Sanchez: The entire Windows uh Peter Southern: It hang hung. John Sanchez: It it hung. Peter Southern: Ha-ha. Oh. Project Manager. Phillip Parkison: Yes. Peter Southern: You're Phillip Parkison: Yes. Peter Southern: our Project Manager. Phillip Parkison: Your project manager. Welcome to the conceptual design meeting for Real Reaction. Uh, hello again. Uh it's uh the same as the last time. Uh uh, also this time there will be uh three presentations. And we um must uh reach a decision on uh the remote control concepts. Um uh, and the end, I uh, when I finish it off I have some uh input from uh a master class I uh visited. information. John Sanchez: During lunch, yeah. Peter Southern: Master. John Sanchez: He's the master, yeah. Peter Southern: Master Phillip Parkison: The Peter Southern: of Phillip Parkison: the the the the concepts on uh we uh where we uh must reach a decision on. Um uh, our from uh are of two sorts. Components concepts and user interface concepts. Uh, the first one is uh really about the the the the the total package uh with uh Well, we have decided to do a do the uh with a touch-screen that must be a case around it so uh it won't be uh uh as breakable. Uh how how about the energy? Can you uh can you reload it or uh just have batteries which you must exchange? Uh, the user interface concept. Uh, with the type and uh the the supplements. So uh where to put what button. And uh uh I would say uh Jans, can you begin? Mark Fleming: Yeah, sure. Phillip Parkison: Okay. At the end, uh I will take notes uh Mark Fleming: Okay. Phillip Parkison: and at the end of the minutes uh will uh be at the shared folder. Mark Fleming: Uh, let Peter Southern see. I think it's this one. Ha. John Sanchez: Wow. Mark Fleming: Right. Uh, well, I'll be talking about the components. Uh, what I did was I reviewed previously used items uh by uh two two uh different uh age groups. Phillip Parkison: Mm-hmm. Mark Fleming: Uh below forty five and above. And uh I just uh watch what the differences are and I checked uh, well, what what d do we want, and how we uh d aim a at uh the target group. Well uh what I found was that a senior um senior citizens uh Peter Southern: I'm sorry. Mark Fleming: Ye Ah, it's Peter Southern: Okay. Mark Fleming: it's Peter Southern: Go Mark Fleming: okay. Peter Southern: on. Mark Fleming: Uh They, well, they like more the they like the traditional materials, like wood and and such more. Wood and chrome. And uh uh they like uh straightforward shapes. Um, uh they they they they like luxurious uh styles, where whereas the young and dynamic, they like a more uh soft materials. Think of the Teletubbies, for instance. Uh uh, soft and fluffy and colourful and Well uh, shapes are curved and round. Y y you get the picture. And uh they like sports and gaming, and that gives them uh the vitality. Uh, so w well Phillip Parkison: One Mark Fleming: uh, firs Phillip Parkison: one little question. Um Mark Fleming: Yes. Phillip Parkison: about the the material. Mark Fleming: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: Uh a soft material for a remote control? Mark Fleming: No, I'll I'll get to that. Phillip Parkison: Okay. Mark Fleming: You you'll see. Yeah. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Thank you. Mark Fleming: Uh, well f first off, let's start start with the energy. W I uh I had a choice between uh a few different uh sources. Phillip Parkison: Mm-hmm. Mark Fleming: But uh the two basic sources that I found were the best possible were the battery uh versus kinetic. Uh kinetic, that's when you move something, then uh it gets energy. I figured, well that's ki kinda high-tech, when when you have a remote control that well, when you pick it up, it has power. That would be actually very nice, uh Phillip Parkison: Oh. Mark Fleming: I figured. Well, we could also use a battery, that's a Peter Southern: Yeah Mark Fleming: bit Peter Southern: but when the power gets low, you have to shake it or something? Mark Fleming: Yeah. Yeah yeah, you c just you have to shake it around Peter Southern: Uh, Mark Fleming: a little bit. Peter Southern: and Mark Fleming: And Peter Southern: uh Mark Fleming: then Peter Southern: uh Mark Fleming: then it d then it has some more uh energy. Well, Peter Southern: Hmm. Mark Fleming: y you could just go for a battery. Or you can go for both? John Sanchez: Oh, have you the option of using a solar panel Mark Fleming: Yeah, I actually did. But uh the thing is about solar panel is you have to have l uh light. Well, sunlight preferably. John Sanchez: W Mark Fleming: Uh, John Sanchez: nah. Mark Fleming: and you you could you could use normal light, but uh John Sanchez: Mm. Mark Fleming: you wouldn't get the same amount of energy that you would from a battery or something. John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: Uh for uh ultimate b uh n uh use of uh solar panels, you could actually use uh you could use uh solar panels, but uh you ha you'd have to implement them into uh the remote control, leaving you uh a bit less space for Peter Southern: Mm Mark Fleming: the Peter Southern: yeah. Mark Fleming: interface. John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: It's too Mark Fleming: So Peter Southern: less Mark Fleming: uh Peter Southern: space. Mark Fleming: so i i it it wo what's actually I I c just in f I've figured it out that well, uh seeing that you'll always be uh within the l uh distance of T_V_, and the from T_V_ there comes a a a whole bunch of light. So it would actually power itself uh from John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: a T_V_. But, well you just take up all the space, and you John Sanchez: Okay. Mark Fleming: wouldn't uh have the full amount of power actually used. Phillip Parkison: But you Mark Fleming: So Phillip Parkison: prefer kinetic? Mark Fleming: I I prefer kinetic because Phillip Parkison: Okay. Mark Fleming: it's uh well, the costs aren't that much higher, and um, ju just a bit more high-tech than than a normal battery. I mean, Phillip Parkison: Yeah, Mark Fleming: if Phillip Parkison: but you don't move a a remote control Mark Fleming: No, Phillip Parkison: too Mark Fleming: but Phillip Parkison: much. Mark Fleming: uh d Well, you pick it up and you press buttons and y well, Phillip Parkison: And that's Mark Fleming: you Phillip Parkison: enough to to keep the energy level uh Mark Fleming: Yeah, well uh actually it is. Phillip Parkison: Okay. Mark Fleming: And it it if it isn't, you just shake it a bit and and add add with power up again. John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: But, what l what Jarek said, you could you could use a battery that you'd just keep it on the recharging whenever it moves. And for rest, you'd just add juice on the battery. Phillip Parkison: Okay. Peter Southern: And when the battery doesn't work, I usually shake too. So Like slamming on Mark Fleming: Exactly. Peter Southern: it. It's exactly the same. Mark Fleming: And Phillip Parkison: Thank Mark Fleming: so that Phillip Parkison: you, Tim. Mark Fleming: Uh Uh well, f furthermore, you you we uh checked uh the cases. We have uh different options uh concerning the cases. You ha I you sim uh you simply add a basic uh standard uh model uh it was kind of square and uh I figured that's a bit boring. So you you we could go for uh the single curved or the double curved. Um, single curve, it's just a well, uh, you know, it's just uh a nice curve. Or but but you could go in a in an double curves. And that's like several different dimensions. That gives Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Mark Fleming: you an whole new uh Phillip Parkison: Dynamic Peter Southern: Hmm. Mark Fleming: effec Phillip Parkison: dynamic look? Mark Fleming: Yeah, that gives you a younger and uh more high-tech look, I f I figured. But, that uh we'll discuss later. Peter Southern: But, are you going to draw it? Mark Fleming: What? Peter Southern: The Mark Fleming: You John Sanchez: Th Mark Fleming: want Peter Southern to draw John Sanchez: th Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: in John Sanchez: yeah. Mark Fleming: three-D_? Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: Uh, I c I can't imagine. Mark Fleming: Uh, Peter Southern: I can't imagine Mark Fleming: yeah, I ca Peter Southern: how Mark Fleming: I Peter Southern: how Mark Fleming: ca Peter Southern: how Mark Fleming: I could Peter Southern: it Mark Fleming: I Peter Southern: looks Mark Fleming: could show Peter Southern: like. Mark Fleming: you. I could show you. Well uh let's say y uh you uh Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: Let's say that's your standard uh Peter Southern: Design. John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: That's a bit your d standard design. Peter Southern: Mm-hmm. Mark Fleming: could actually go like uh something like this. And then uh in three-D_ effect you could go John Sanchez: Um Peter Southern: Uh Mark Fleming: So y you you just Yeah, this is a this bit uh difficulty in I didn't take a major in art. So But but you could have uh uh a whole new uh the back Peter Southern: Oh, Mark Fleming: back Peter Southern: okay. Mark Fleming: the the the depth, you could you could uh just Peter Southern: Okay. Mark Fleming: play around a bit with. You you don't have to use standard uh Peter Southern: Oh, okay. Phillip Parkison: A little artistic. Mark Fleming: Yeah you could y It leaves more space for creativity. Phillip Parkison: Okay. Peter Southern: Okay. Mark Fleming: Uh that might be an idea, but just a Well, furthermore, uh well, uh plastic versus rubber? You We could choose uh what uh what's better, plastic um or rubber. I I ch prefer rubber because it feels uh Yeah. Phillip Parkison: It's soft. Mark Fleming: Yeah, it's soft and it's that Phillip Parkison: That's Mark Fleming: I like Phillip Parkison: the material Mark Fleming: soft. Phillip Parkison: the younger people want uh, Mark Fleming: Yeah, Phillip Parkison: ain't Mark Fleming: yeah Phillip Parkison: it? Mark Fleming: I mean uh plastic uh is Plastic also has that cheap feeling to it, like plastic uh Your your I usually associate plastic with uh something that's cheap. Uh that's maybe just Peter Southern, but Uh, we could uh uh, oh, talk about it later. Uh furthermore, buttons. Uh traditional uh or a touch screen. Well, we discussed it in a previous meeting, so I figured I'll just leave it at the L_C_D_. And uh chip set, well uh if we are going to use traditional buttons, we could go uh with a simple chip set. But uh if we decide to go on a n uh um L_C_D_ screen, we would use an uh we have to use an a advanced chip set. And that would bring uh the necessary costs with with it. So that's something we th have to keep in mind. If it isn't uh manageable uh budget-wise, we'd have to go over to uh to sim to simple buttons. Peter Southern: Well, I think uh we're going to sell tell ten millions of them. So uh I bet a big company in uh Korea or Taiwan, like uh Samsung, Mark Fleming: Yeah. John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: can give us uh a big discount on the chips, so Mark Fleming: Yeah, probably. Peter Southern: U usually, chips are uh aren't more expensive than one dollar. Mark Fleming: Yeah, probably, but Peter Southern: So Mark Fleming: But uh yeah, that's Peter Southern: That that Mark Fleming: that's Peter Southern: shouldn't be a real issue, Mark Fleming: That shouldn't Peter Southern: I think. Mark Fleming: shouldn't be uh that big a issue. I'll I'll I'll just add, uh uh I put a big summary here, so we could discuss it a bit. Uh what i what are your ideas concerning battery versus kinetic? John Sanchez: Um, I think you should use kinetic as a back-up. Mark Fleming: Yeah, you you you should we Peter Southern: Yeah, a Mark Fleming: should Peter Southern: combination. John Sanchez: A combination, Mark Fleming: A combination. John Sanchez: yeah. Mark Fleming: Uh, you use the battery and w charge it up with kinetic. When you pick it up, it Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: charges up. Peter Southern: Like an uh aku uh Mark Fleming: Yeah. Peter Southern: Acu uh, Mark Fleming: Yeah Peter Southern: yeah. Mark Fleming: yeah, I know. John Sanchez: Okay. Yeah. Phillip Parkison: Just like the watch Peter Southern: Well, Phillip Parkison: from Seiko. Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: Psycho-kinetic. Mark Fleming: Yeah, I con Exactly. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: What uh what do you think? You agree? Phillip Parkison: I I uh I would prefer uh both uh too. Mark Fleming: Yeah? Both? Peter Southern: Combine Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: them. Phillip Parkison: Combine them. Mark Fleming: Okay. Uh, well that would bring the m m some more costs, but I mean the Who cares, Peter Southern: Okay. Mark Fleming: right. That's Phillip Parkison's John Sanchez: Buy Mark Fleming: problem. John Sanchez: a fifty Peter Southern: Of John Sanchez: cents Peter Southern: course. John Sanchez: battery and uh Peter Southern: Fifty Mark Fleming: Yeah, Peter Southern: cent. Mark Fleming: well Fifty cent uh Uh, why doesn't And then we have single-curved versus double-curved. That John Sanchez: Well maybe I have something in my presentation to uh to cope with that. Mark Fleming: Okay. No, we'll we'll just wait and uh Uh, plastic versus rubber. Peter Southern: Rubber. Mark Fleming: Any ideas? Phillip Parkison: Rubber. Mark Fleming: Uh, Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Mark Fleming: rubber? John Sanchez: Um, Mark Fleming: You John Sanchez: isn't possible to make combination with kind of rubber is or bendable remotes where you've got a. Or do Mark Fleming: Uh, John Sanchez: you Mark Fleming: I John Sanchez: think Mark Fleming: figured John Sanchez: it Mark Fleming: it will be m rather than John Sanchez: Rubber Mark Fleming: hard John Sanchez: casing, Peter Southern: Rather John Sanchez: yeah. Peter Southern: hard. Mark Fleming: Nah, rubber c uh this is a casing, yeah. Rubber casing, because well if you use an uh d a touch-screen, uh it's just a casing uh around it. So um, John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: you could go for plastic, but I figured Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: Um, Mark Fleming: I John Sanchez: well Mark Fleming: I I John Sanchez: d Mark Fleming: would choose rubber. John Sanchez: Maybe I can ask it right now the question that I have. Uh, is it possible uh of is it necessary to make a touch-screen square? It isn't, I think, yeah? Mark Fleming: Well, m I don't know. Peter Southern: Well, Mark Fleming: No. Peter Southern: I think that touch-screens are generally square. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Mark Fleming: Yeah. Peter Southern: But it's the John Sanchez: We're Peter Southern: case you put around it Mark Fleming: That Peter Southern: that John Sanchez: We put Mark Fleming: isn't Peter Southern: makes John Sanchez: fashion Peter Southern: the shape. John Sanchez: in electronics, so Peter Southern: Hmm? John Sanchez: maybe we can uh Peter Southern: Yeah okay, but if you have a square uh L_C_D_ screen, John Sanchez: Mm Peter Southern: and John Sanchez: yeah. Peter Southern: you put a case around it that has uh like bulbs or John Sanchez: Mm-hmm. Peter Southern: that that covers part of the L_C_D_ screen. Mark Fleming: Yeah, that would Peter Southern: That Mark Fleming: cover it. That that would solve Peter Southern: That's Mark Fleming: the problem. Peter Southern: it's John Sanchez: Oh, Peter Southern: custom customisable John Sanchez: yeah. Okay, Peter Southern: and John Sanchez: I Phillip Parkison: Mm yeah. John Sanchez: I get it. Mark Fleming: So mm Uh uh so uh so what are the opinions? Uh rubber or plastic? I I I prefer rubber. Peter Southern: Yeah, Peter Southern too. Phillip Parkison: Peter Southern too. John Sanchez: Okay. Mark Fleming: Yeah, you Phillip Parkison: Yeah? Mark Fleming: too? You sure? You John Sanchez: That's good. Mark Fleming: you John Sanchez: Well, Mark Fleming: you seemed John Sanchez: as Mark Fleming: to hesitate John Sanchez: long a Mark Fleming: a bit. John Sanchez: as long as it's it's uh it's firm, and you don't uh Peter Southern: Mm yeah. John Sanchez: it's not bendable or something, I th I think that goes too far. Mark Fleming: Yeah, it it shouldn't it shouldn't Phillip Parkison: Okay. Mark Fleming: flop over when you John Sanchez: Oh. Mark Fleming: hold it in your hand uh No, that that that that's gonna The the chip set will hold it firm in place, and John Sanchez: Okay. Mark Fleming: uh and and uh and a L_C_D_ screen also John Sanchez: It might even bounce back when you drop it on the floor. Mark Fleming: Yeah it m might it might. John Sanchez: Okay. Mark Fleming: Uh, tra uh traditional versus L_C_D_, well I figured we we all set on that. And uh, then also the simple versus advanced. Well I figure if we go for L_ L_C_D_, we we should have the advanced. Phillip Parkison: Mm Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: yeah. Mark Fleming: So that shouldn't be a problem. Okay, well that's my uh Phillip Parkison: Thank you. Mark Fleming: Uh, you're welcome. Peter Southern: Can I uh do my thing? Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: It uh Phillip Parkison: Do your thing, John Sanchez: Do Phillip Parkison: Tim. John Sanchez: your thing. Phillip Parkison: Bring it on. Peter Southern: Expert map. Okay uh Last week I went to uh Paris and Milan for some trend-watching. For marketing. Our research and development department and I went to Paris and Milan. In Paris and Milan, we uh asked different people, uh differing in age and in income, uh the amount of money to spend, um what they like in design uh and material nowadays. Findings. Our main audience, uh so that's people below forty, uh prefer the following. At first, the colours of fruit. Very basic colours, like Janus explained. Um, fresh colours, uh green, red, uh strawberry red, uh yellow, banana yellow. Um, considering material, um Yeah. They like spongy material, John Sanchez: Spongeball. Peter Southern: like yeah a sponge-ball. Like a s soft material. Janus Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: m uh mentioned it also. I think he did some uh some findings himself. Mark Fleming: Well, Peter Southern: You Mark Fleming: the Teletubbies Peter Southern: wer Mark Fleming: sh Peter Southern: you weren't in Paris? Okay. Like this. Like big uh Phillip Parkison: Flashy. Peter Southern: g flashy colours. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: Fresh. It's nice, I think. Okay, our secondary audience, uh people above forty a forty years in age, they like the dark traditional colours. Uh Yeah, uh materials like wood Phillip Parkison: Yeah, Peter Southern: that Phillip Parkison: but wood is not a not a material you which you build a a remote control of. Mark Fleming: Well, you could. Peter Southern: No Mark Fleming: You Peter Southern: n Mark Fleming: you Peter Southern: j Mark Fleming: could. Peter Southern: just Phillip Parkison: Yeah Peter Southern: j Phillip Parkison: but Peter Southern: just a w Phillip Parkison: never seen Mark Fleming: Well uh Phillip Parkison: one. John Sanchez: It'll float. Peter Southern: No, okay, but just just a wooden uh Phillip Parkison: Case. Peter Southern: look. Phillip Parkison: Oh, a wooden Mark Fleming: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: look, yeah. Peter Southern: Like uh you have those fake uh John Sanchez: Tables. Peter Southern: fake panels on the floor. The that isn't wood anyway, but Phillip Parkison: Okay. Peter Southern: Okay? But, that's our secondary audience. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: So, uh we decided to take mm yeah the people below forty. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: So, that this doesn't apply. 'Kay, the third. Uh, there're some overall thoughts about new remote controls. They have to look fancy. Um, they should be technological in innovative. That means uh there have to be fancy things in. Uh, and easy to use. But that's common. My personal preferences. We have to aim at a mu at the main audience. And uh, therefore use fresh colours. Phillip Parkison: Would you prefer uh uh that you can choose the colour of your uh remote control Peter Southern: Uh, Phillip Parkison: or Peter Southern: I'll I'll come to that in a second Phillip Parkison: Okay. Peter Southern: point. Here, think about removable covers, as seen Phillip Parkison: Okay. Peter Southern: in mobile telephon telephone market. To customise your own remote control. Like the Nokia uh the Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: removable covers, uh just put a red Phillip Parkison: Okay. Peter Southern: on it and go to the shop and buy a green one. Uh, a third, material being used uh could well be stuff like rubber. Um, two advantages. Uh, it fits within the current market trends. And uh it adds safety to your remote uh when you drop it. So Uh to come back to your question, I think uh and the people in Milan and Paris also think that uh the rubber should be pretty hard. Like uh seen on regular mobile phones. Actually, they have a lot in common. The phones and the Mark Fleming: Well, I actually saw a phone that you could use as a remote, so Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: Ah. Mark Fleming: Yeah. Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: Maybe Peter Southern: Okay. Phillip Parkison: you could use your remote as a phone. Mark Fleming: Hey. John Sanchez: Hey. Mark Fleming: That Phillip Parkison: There Mark Fleming: might Phillip Parkison: are numbers Mark Fleming: be a next Phillip Parkison: on Mark Fleming: step. Phillip Parkison: it, so uh Peter Southern: Yeah, exactly. Uh, in my second sheet of personal preferences, uh we have to reconsider the speech function uh recognition. Uh, it's very innovative. Innovative. Phillip Parkison: So that you say um S_P_S_S_, and it goes to Peter Southern: Yeah, Phillip Parkison: uh Peter Southern: like something. Phillip Parkison: Okay. Peter Southern: speech recognition and stuff. But, we have to keep the cost in uh in mind, but John Sanchez: Twelve Peter Southern: it John Sanchez: fifty uh Peter Southern: Yeah, it it can be uh very expensive. 'Kay, second. Uh, building games like Snake or Tetris to amuse the younger users. Uh, also the link with uh mobile phones. Phillip Parkison: Yeah, but Peter Southern: Uh Phillip Parkison: you don't use that th games when you watching television, Peter Southern: No, Phillip Parkison: I think. Peter Southern: but Mark Fleming: Well, Peter Southern: No, Mark Fleming: yeah. Peter Southern: okay. But you don't use games when you're d when you're making a telephone call. It's just the same. John Sanchez: When your parents are watching some boring program, you can take the remote and do something else. Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: Yeah, okay. Peter Southern: When you're at college. Mark Fleming: You take Peter Southern: Uh Phillip Parkison: You Mark Fleming: your Phillip Parkison: take Mark Fleming: uh Phillip Parkison: your remote John Sanchez: Take Mark Fleming: remote Phillip Parkison: control Mark Fleming: with Peter Southern: No. Mark Fleming: you to school. Phillip Parkison: with you. Peter Southern: You al you also take John Sanchez: it. Peter Southern: uh t you take your IPac and go uh play games. Yeah. Mark Fleming: Yeah. Peter Southern: Yeah. Well, I do that, but Okay, and um And third, I stick with it, the log-in functionality uh with the slogan, take parental control to a new dimension. John Sanchez: Ooh. Mark Fleming: Very Peter Southern: That's John Sanchez: S Mark Fleming: nice. Peter Southern: it. Phillip Parkison: Uh great. John Sanchez: Mm-hmm. John Sanchez: In Okay. Um the interface contents. Well that's a just simple PowerPoint mock-up I want to m make it more as dynamic for you so I'll draw there. But, the main concept is um take one big touch screen. Um, always display the primary buttons clear and visible. Maybe even li like this with uh u uses of a lot of space. And uh make the menu structure changeable. So if you press um system, that's Yeah, well m multiple system options can, maybe five or ten or or one, can fit in. Or maybe even a step further when you want to um t um have some other options that are not programmable with one horizontal button. And um other buttons can may be displayed here if that's necessary. And um well, how do uh do we want to look at uh uh f um Yeah Does a remote look Well, it's you've gotta hold it in one hand. So um the middle like all remotes have to be in a little bit small, so you can put it in inside your hands. And some remotes you can use with your thumb. But I think that's too difficult for this one. So you can make it s a little broader. Yeah. And here? And maybe use your thumb on the on the main buttons. And use your other hands on the menu structure. So here are gonna be the program buttons. One, two, three, four, et cetera. And the the volume control and program control maybe. And, down here, um, I added, this could be one uh big L_C_D_. Um, the menu structure. So you can use it in uh in this way. Um One thing you've gotta keep in mind, keep the remote clear of too much functions at the same time. Um, know that if you are changing the menu structure here, um And well, I still believe you should keep displaying the buttons. But if you're programming the colour of the T_V_, do not display twenty other options that are possible. Just keep it as simple as uh as possible. And do not use too many levels. Do not have to select a screen first and then brightness and then colour and un-plus, and um push plus twenty times. But just the um uh just in one button if possible. And um, well, you kn you all know the T_V_ levels. Um, channel one, two. And when you get to n to uh to ten, ye and want to go back, uh well you have a problem. Just m most most modern T_V_s, you you press one zero, and it goes to ten. And else, to one and through after that. So the s a button less. And um, things like teletext, put them in the menu. Things like um um Yeah. Peter Southern: Yeah. Uh, what do you think about a back-and-forth come-up uh button? John Sanchez: Yeah, yeah Peter Southern: L John Sanchez: w Peter Southern: like in uh internet John Sanchez: Yeah, Peter Southern: explorer. John Sanchez: I I find I must trying to uh tell it. And this is program uh plus and minus. Uh Peter Southern: Yeah okay, but does it that is for uh going from four to five. John Sanchez: Yes. Peter Southern: But if you go from two to John Sanchez: Or Peter Southern: eight, John Sanchez: if you're watching Peter Southern: and you want John Sanchez: Studio Sports on uh on seventeen, Peter Southern: Yeah, John Sanchez: and Peter Southern: and on John Sanchez: your Peter Southern: two. John Sanchez: wife is watching Peter Southern: That you John Sanchez: some Peter Southern: can switch John Sanchez: soap on Peter Southern: switch John Sanchez: two Peter Southern: easy. John Sanchez: Well yes, I think that's a good idea. But um, well m my preference Peter Southern: Yeah it John Sanchez: would Peter Southern: is. John Sanchez: to be put it in the menu structure. Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: And if you're using that button a lot of times, well of course the menu will still be displayed on the screen. You just don't have to play games uh in-between. But if you're really switching between two channels, you won't have time uh Peter Southern: Mm John Sanchez: to Peter Southern: no. John Sanchez: d use the other options. Um, yeah already already told that. Peter Southern: That's John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: it. John Sanchez: That's my conclusion. Peter Southern: Okay. Phillip Parkison: Oh, okay. Uh I think we can discuss a little about the the three uh kind of revolutionary things uh Tim uh came with. The parental control, the games, and the voice recognition. Uh There's n not uh too much decision on uh that one so uh I think that parental control is a good function to uh to put in the remote. I don't know how you think Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: about it. John Sanchez: Well, I agree, just put it in the menu structure somewhere. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: Um, yeah um system Peter Southern: Yeah but John Sanchez: properties, um parental control. Peter Southern: What I see uh How I see it is you put it on the the remote John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: and then you have like a Windows log-on screen with parents, children. John Sanchez: Mm. Peter Southern: Something Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: like that. John Sanchez: Um, Peter Southern: And w John Sanchez: w Peter Southern: when you want John Sanchez: well, Peter Southern: to use John Sanchez: yeah. Peter Southern: the parents uh option, John Sanchez: It it Peter Southern: you John Sanchez: has Peter Southern: have to John Sanchez: to be fast. You don't want to to go down and watch the news at eight o'clock and turn it on and wait twenty seconds for for uh the log-on screen and then remember your code and all kinds Peter Southern: Yeah, John Sanchez: of settings. Peter Southern: ok Phillip Parkison: No but I think most people uh find it uh much more important that their children don't watch uh sex or violence uh John Sanchez: Mm-hmm. Phillip Parkison: on the television, and uh wait John Sanchez: Why Phillip Parkison: uh ten or fifteen seconds John Sanchez: Mm-hmm. Phillip Parkison: longer, so they can uh finally watch it uh because John Sanchez: You c Phillip Parkison: of John Sanchez: may Phillip Parkison: that. John Sanchez: use Phillip Parkison: Uh John Sanchez: like when there's uh X_P_, uh a Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: simple log-on, d Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: you just Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: push uh one Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: or two Peter Southern: Pu John Sanchez: or Peter Southern: push John Sanchez: three. Peter Southern: parents. John Sanchez: And if Peter Southern: That John Sanchez: you push Peter Southern: then John Sanchez: parents, Peter Southern: then John Sanchez: then Peter Southern: then John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: you have to uh John Sanchez: To log in. Peter Southern: go to three-digit John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: uh John Sanchez: And if you Peter Southern: log-in. John Sanchez: puts a Peter Southern: Like John Sanchez: ye Peter Southern: two one three. John Sanchez: Uh-huh. Peter Southern: And it's in. John Sanchez: And Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: if you w you push p children, uh you don't have to uh Peter Southern: It automatically John Sanchez: log in, but Peter Southern: goes John Sanchez: you can only Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: watch uh children's channels or uh Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: Okay. Well Mark Fleming: I don't know if it's worth uh the time and effort we are going to spend on it. Because well it's a simple function, but it's gonna take a lot of resources and a lot of time um to programming it. Because you'll have to start working with the profiles and such. Peter Southern: Mm-hmm. Mark Fleming: And I'm not sure if it's actually worth uh investing that much time and effort into it. I don't Phillip Parkison: Well Mark Fleming: know Phillip Parkison: I Mark Fleming: what Phillip Parkison: think that's a b there's a big market for it, because uh you Peter Southern: Mm yeah. Phillip Parkison: Yeah, you read many times in magazines same kind of stuff, and you heard on the news that uh that he Yeah, Peter Southern: V violent Phillip Parkison: they Peter Southern: T_V_. Phillip Parkison: believe that children uh are influenced by the television, and uh Well, we're we're aiming uh to uh below uh forty uh years. But there are a lot of uh people will below forty who have uh children John Sanchez: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: in young age uh who who want um to uh not watch uh violent or uh John Sanchez: Well, maybe um some idea on that. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: Just make through a remote as it is, Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: but make an option to insert profiles, 'cause if my Peter Southern: Yeah, of John Sanchez: grandad Peter Southern: course. John Sanchez: would buy this remote, he wouldn't want to bother with all all the all the Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: uh things to do. Just make it an option in menu, ins install powerful profiles or something. Phillip Parkison: Yeah yeah. Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: That's a that's a better idea? Peter Southern: Yeah, w It just has to be w when it's deliver out of the store, Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: it has to be just simple and plain. But Phillip Parkison: Yeah, okay. Peter Southern: if you want to install it personally uh If I got kids, and I could choose between uh two remote controls. One Phillip Parkison: Yeah, with Peter Southern: uh Phillip Parkison: and one without. Peter Southern: w with parent control and one without, and I would would buy the one with. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: Um, b Peter Southern: I John Sanchez: well, Peter Southern: th John Sanchez: still Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: some question I have about how to incorporate those ones. You're thinking about some channels they uh cannot see, but well, I I when I think, oh yeah, for the f for all the standard channels, and only for maybe after ten o'clock uh in the evening violent films and movies uh will come and uh maybe maybe some some timing uh will be uh needed Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: instead of uh of channels, because if you're watching uh, I don't know, you're in the at day uh, cartoons will come up m on maybe Friday night. I don't know. Phillip Parkison: Yeah, maybe it can work with show view. Uh, you you can control your video recorder with show view. Uh, when you tick in a number, it will uh start and end uh recording. But maybe there's some option that uh that t uh the kind of show view numbers are violent, and that they are blocked out. John Sanchez: Yeah, the disadvantage vantage is that someone will has to send all the show-view numbers of the programs that Phillip Parkison: That's John Sanchez: they Phillip Parkison: true. John Sanchez: remotes Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: and edit it all, will have Peter Southern: Yeah John Sanchez: to Peter Southern: but John Sanchez: decide Peter Southern: yeah John Sanchez: uh Peter Southern: but that isn't possible. John Sanchez: That isn't possible. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Mark Fleming: But, well, if you want to I i i if we in incorporate uh the parental control, uh let's say we do, and and well whatever, cho uh child just goes up to the T_V_ and presses up for instance. Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: Well uh, nob nobody's stopping the child from uh well checking uh the channel. Peter Southern: Hmm. John Sanchez: Well, Mark Fleming: But that John Sanchez: yeah you could say if parental control is only it it'll go from fourteen to sixteen with the page-up then, but Mark Fleming: Well, I'm not sure because um for that Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: to happen, you d you will have to receive a signal from the uh remote control, so it would, yeah, have to be constant uh constant signalling. John Sanchez: Mm-hmm. Mark Fleming: What m what may be better is to incorporate an uh a separate device that uh that you can program with the remote control. And that uh provides parental control, for instance. And that's just an optional uh device. So there's n that's there's uh besides uh the remote control, you'll have a separate uh Phillip Parkison: I wouldn't put it in an optional device. That that then then then it becomes too much, I think. Mark Fleming: Yeah? Phillip Parkison: If we do it, we Peter Southern: Yeah, Phillip Parkison: we Peter Southern: and Phillip Parkison: must do it in a kind of ways that like a profile, a parent profile, and a family John Sanchez: Yeah, Phillip Parkison: profile, John Sanchez: on a separate Phillip Parkison: and otherwise. John Sanchez: menu uh option. Peter Southern: And and you know w uh when you install another device, uh children can still go up to the T_V_, p pop open uh the thing Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: and and and g Mark Fleming: Yeah, Peter Southern: go Mark Fleming: that's Peter Southern: to a Mark Fleming: true. Peter Southern: channel. Mark Fleming: That's true, but uh at same instant, same happens when uh you have remote control. Peter Southern: Yeah, yeah of course. Mark Fleming: So Peter Southern: But Mark Fleming: But, only difference is uh the uh the people buying the remote control will now get the f added feature of parental control, and those Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: people wouldn't uh necessary want it. Peter Southern: Ah it's Yeah. Mark Fleming: So, you Peter Southern: Yeah, okay. Mark Fleming: you'd Peter Southern: But it's Mark Fleming: be Peter Southern: just an an added feature Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Mark Fleming: Yeah. Peter Southern: feature. Phillip Parkison: Okay. And what do you uh guys think of the games in the voice recognition? I personally think that that becomes too much. John Sanchez: Yeah, well yeah, I Phillip Parkison: It's more like it gets you to the functionality, John Sanchez: A mail Phillip Parkison: but John Sanchez: too from management that it's very popular to use voice recon recognition. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: But I don't think when you're watching T_V_ uh, hearing loud noises from Peter Southern: Mm yeah. John Sanchez: the T_V_, Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: someone screaming one, and you f the channel switches, uh Yeah. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: Yeah, like f voice recognition is too much, I think. John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: But Phillip Parkison: Okay. And games? Peter Southern: games. It doesn't Mark Fleming: Yeah. I can John Sanchez: W Mark Fleming: see games John Sanchez: you Mark Fleming: happening. Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: can put it on chip anyway, so Mark Fleming: Yeah. John Sanchez: uh Peter Southern: That that Phillip Parkison: That Peter Southern: doesn't Phillip Parkison: would Peter Southern: c John Sanchez: As Peter Southern: that doesn't John Sanchez: long as Peter Southern: co John Sanchez: it's isn't a primary feature of the remote, but Peter Southern: Yeah, John Sanchez: uh Peter Southern: that that doesn't cost a lot of Phillip Parkison: Okay. Peter Southern: extra resources, Phillip Parkison: So Peter Southern: I Phillip Parkison: that Peter Southern: think. Phillip Parkison: will uh that that that must be in it, you think? Mark Fleming: Yeah, that will be nice. Phillip Parkison: Okay. So the games uh are in it. The voice recognition are not. And the parental control are John Sanchez: Optional Phillip Parkison: optional? Peter Southern: Yeah, it's John Sanchez: in Peter Southern: it's in it. But John Sanchez: But Peter Southern: too ma John Sanchez: how we do it? Peter Southern: I I think so, but Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: Well, I think also it's a good idea, buts very difficult to incorporate. So we should make it too complex. Is Phillip Parkison: Okay. John Sanchez: t some menu uh function, you choose parental control, and maybe four files will emerge from menu where put Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: it on. But uh how how it's gonna work uh uh Phillip Parkison: Yeah, John Sanchez: will f Phillip Parkison: okay. John Sanchez: be a problem. Phillip Parkison: Uh, but uh will there uh uh Like the first idea uh from uh You can buy it without and uh with parental contr John Sanchez: Mm-hmm. Phillip Parkison: control? Or are we John Sanchez: Well Phillip Parkison: going to put it in and uh just John Sanchez: Ye Phillip Parkison: uh John Sanchez: I I think best would be uh to put it in and make Peter Southern: To put John Sanchez: it an menu option. Peter Southern: Yeah, John Sanchez: You can Peter Southern: to John Sanchez: put Peter Southern: put John Sanchez: on Peter Southern: it in always. Phillip Parkison: Yeah? John Sanchez: Yeah. And you can just uh s when you buy it, you can select um personal preference, parental control on, and the password or Phillip Parkison: Mm yeah. John Sanchez: something. Mark Fleming: Well, I don't know. I I figure if you had two different remotes, you could bo choose one with uh well uh uh a receiver in it. So you could actually easily uh build in uh parental control. But it would would be uh more expensive. So, a and that that way uh you could make cheap model and a expensive model. Could ma make the uh simple model and the deluxe model, uh for instance. John Sanchez: Oh, it's a p Yeah. Peter Southern: Yeah, but T_V_s aren't capable of sending. Mark Fleming: Yes they are. Peter Southern: Yeah? Mark Fleming: Yeah. Peter Southern: I thought they were just Phillip Parkison: Yeah, Mark Fleming: Yeah, Phillip Parkison: you yo Mark Fleming: you you Peter Southern: a Mark Fleming: have Peter Southern: able Mark Fleming: some Peter Southern: to Mark Fleming: T_V_s Peter Southern: receive. Mark Fleming: any Peter Southern: Yeah, some. Phillip Parkison: Yeah, Peter Southern: But Phillip Parkison: but most often Mark Fleming: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: not. Mark Fleming: That is true, that is true. John Sanchez: Well, maybe you just have to restrict it to what programs, where the parent says, you cannot watch channel seven, nine, and ten, Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: and you cannot watch all channels after ten o'clock. And there's just some little uh clock in Mark Fleming: Well John Sanchez: the Mark Fleming: yeah, Peter Southern: Yeah, John Sanchez: remote. Mark Fleming: you could Peter Southern: j Mark Fleming: you could easily Peter Southern: just some rules. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Mark Fleming: you could easily you could easily to the mote control. But you still have the problem about uh the television itself. John Sanchez: No, no, it's very simple. There uh th I h I've seen some of remotes who have a clock in it. Mark Fleming: Yeah, yeah yeah. John Sanchez: So, the remote does doesn't transmit when it's after Peter Southern: Yeah, okay. John Sanchez: twelve Peter Southern: But, John Sanchez: clock. Peter Southern: on the T_V_ John Sanchez: Yeah? Peter Southern: at least my T_V_, is a is a compartment which you can press. John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: And Mark Fleming: Yeah. Peter Southern: there are buttons uh behind Mark Fleming: Yeah. Peter Southern: it John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: which you can use, if John Sanchez: Well, Peter Southern: you d if John Sanchez: that's Peter Southern: you don't if you don't have a John Sanchez: To put it very blunt, that's not our problem. Just have um the parents buy uh some Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: glue and uh Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: It's not not a part of the remote. Peter Southern: Yeah, of course. Mark Fleming: Yeah, that is true. Yeah, that is true. John Sanchez: You have to f Mark Fleming: Yeah, John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: you could you John Sanchez: Uh, Mark Fleming: could you John Sanchez: or Mark Fleming: could go John Sanchez: make Mark Fleming: like John Sanchez: it ourselves Mark Fleming: uh that John Sanchez: very Mark Fleming: that would John Sanchez: diffic Mark Fleming: actually make uh things a lot more easy. You John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: could just blame it on television and John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: uh make it their problem. Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: Yeah, I figured I figure we could do that. Yeah, John Sanchez: Okay. Mark Fleming: yeah, sure. Peter Southern: Or Mark Fleming: Uh, Peter Southern: j Mark Fleming: I'm Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: not sure what marketing thinks about it, but Peter Southern: Ah I have to uh consult my legal advisor about it. Phillip Parkison: Okay. So uh I think we have decided on the things that Uh from Janus, the energy, the combination between battery and kinetic. The case will be double-curved and uh rubber, in a fr flashy fruity colour uh that with cover is removable. The buttons will be uh touch-screen. Uh but there may not be too many buttons. And in the the menu structure, uh there must not to be uh Five minutes to go. Uh, too uh too many levels. And uh it must be easy to use. The parental control will be incorporated, but it must be not too complex. And the games are in it. So John Sanchez: Okay. Phillip Parkison: I think we have uh we Peter Southern: Consensus. Phillip Parkison: have decided uh, okay. Uh, little more. Peter Southern: Oh. Oh. John Sanchez: Oh. Peter Southern: I I have one thing left. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: Maybe for uh Jerome. John Sanchez: Yeah? I'm listening. Peter Southern: Um, the views. Maybe it's uh handy to build in an expert view and a simple view. Phillip Parkison: Like a like a moat or s or something. Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: Um, Peter Southern: Like at Mark Fleming: User Peter Southern: In John Sanchez: well Mark Fleming: profile. Peter Southern: the experts view, you have Phillip Parkison: Yeah, Peter Southern: a lot Phillip Parkison: but Peter Southern: of Phillip Parkison: you Peter Southern: more Phillip Parkison: have that Peter Southern: buttons. John Sanchez: What Phillip Parkison: in John Sanchez: I Phillip Parkison: the John Sanchez: was thinking about is just a menu structure, when you don't use it is simple. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: Yeah. John Sanchez: And Phillip Parkison: You John Sanchez: when Phillip Parkison: use John Sanchez: you push Phillip Parkison: the John Sanchez: uh system properties, uh entire list pops up with e ev all kind of f stuff you can program. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. Peter Southern: Mm yeah, okay. Phillip Parkison: It's Peter Southern: Fairly Phillip Parkison: already Peter Southern: enough. Phillip Parkison: incorporated Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: a little in Mark Fleming: Well Phillip Parkison: that Mark Fleming: yeah, you Phillip Parkison: concept. Mark Fleming: you could actually build in a function that you can program it yourself, for the more advanced users. Peter Southern: Yeah, wh which buttons you Mark Fleming: Yeah, Peter Southern: like Mark Fleming: which Peter Southern: or not. Mark Fleming: buttons do you want to in it. Because you can Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: you can like build in a back-forward button, and uh some po somebody would just want to watch two channels. Peter Southern: Yeah. Just leave the other numbers away. Phillip Parkison: Okay. Mark Fleming: Yeah, you could you could m have people want uh Phillip Parkison: We Mark Fleming: want Phillip Parkison: take Mark Fleming: that. Phillip Parkison: it to the other meeting, okay? Peter Southern: Okay. Phillip Parkison: I have a little Peter Southern: Go on. Phillip Parkison: w uh little Mark Fleming: Ah, yeah, Phillip Parkison: chat Mark Fleming: sure. Phillip Parkison: to do and uh then we uh Peter Southern: A Phillip Parkison: finish. Peter Southern: little Phillip Parkison: I went Peter Southern: chat. Phillip Parkison: to uh a master class and uh uh two things uh are uh are uh can come in handy uh for us. First thing uh is uh we talked about knowledge uh management. Knowledge engineering and uh uh the fact that uh that uh that the idea of knowledge, uh sharing and learning knowledge from other companies is uh like that. It's it's uh very hot at the moment, so it's it's mostly for the management expert to to look what other Peter Southern: Marketing. Phillip Parkison: uh marketing or did I said management? Peter Southern: Management. Phillip Parkison: Oh. Just talking about Peter Southern: Yeah, Phillip Parkison: myself. Peter Southern: that's my function, Phillip Parkison: Uh Peter Southern: to Phillip Parkison: W Peter Southern: Okay. Go on. Phillip Parkison: What other companies uh had to uh also with the the the the marketing campaign when they put on a newer remote, just some uh Yeah. Import export. And uh John Sanchez: Som Phillip Parkison: another John Sanchez: some Phillip Parkison: one. John Sanchez: bench-marker. Phillip Parkison: Uh, they're a ha they're at Yeah, benchmarking, that's the word I saw. I uh couldn't uh Okay, uh another uh thing is uh there were there there was a survey, and um uh it came out that um people like to buy things from a single large provider, instead of those who uh are partnering uh with us. So, we must uh we must bring it as if uh Real Reaction is uh is big company, uh a trustful company, and uh Peter Southern: How Phillip Parkison: it has m Peter Southern: I know a marketing name for our product. Phillip Parkison: Okay. Peter Southern: R_ th R_ to the third power. R_ three. Real Reaction remote. Phillip Parkison: I had a John Sanchez: Oh. Phillip Parkison: I had another idea to put uh uh the whole the whole idea of uh Real Reaction and uh uh uh Peter Southern: Mm-hmm? Phillip Parkison: a single brand and uh uh that kind of thing. When you uh put on remote, you see a kind of a just like when you telephone, you see a little John Sanchez: Uh, Phillip Parkison: uh animation. John Sanchez: logo. Peter Southern: Bling. John Sanchez: Yeah? Phillip Parkison: Real Reaction remote. John Sanchez: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: And uh with the with the with the motto, we put fashion in electronics. And Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: then you go uh Peter Southern: Yeah, okay, but it has to be like a split Phillip Parkison: The Peter Southern: second, because John Sanchez: Yeah. Peter Southern: you have to put in a John Sanchez: Well, Peter Southern: code also and John Sanchez: you can show somebody a logo for point five seconds, they'll still remember it. Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: Yeah. John Sanchez: And it it l Phillip Parkison: But John Sanchez: linger Phillip Parkison: w John Sanchez: on every time you see Phillip Parkison: th John Sanchez: it. Phillip Parkison: the idea from this uh thing is that we must present it as a as we are a a single large provider who will stand on our own. Mark Fleming: Well, if you if you have the l L_C_D_ screen, you can you can uh have a small logo i uh at the Peter Southern: Yeah. Mark Fleming: bottom. And it could just stay Peter Southern: That Mark Fleming: there. Peter Southern: spins Phillip Parkison: Mm Peter Southern: around Phillip Parkison: yep, Mark Fleming: Yeah, that Phillip Parkison: yeah. Mark Fleming: spins Peter Southern: like Mark Fleming: around Peter Southern: all Mark Fleming: or Peter Southern: the Mark Fleming: something. Peter Southern: time. John Sanchez: Very annoying. Phillip Parkison: Also also. Mark Fleming: Hmm. Phillip Parkison: But we we are uh Peter Southern: It it's just like a uh globe in Internet Phillip Parkison: Yeah Peter Southern: Explorer. Phillip Parkison: yeah y yeah Mark Fleming: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: yeah. John Sanchez: Yeah. Mark Fleming: Yeah, something Phillip Parkison: Okay, Mark Fleming: like that. Phillip Parkison: but Mark Fleming: A Phillip Parkison: uh Mark Fleming: small icon. John Sanchez: Yeah, Phillip Parkison: think about John Sanchez: I Phillip Parkison: that kind John Sanchez: It's Phillip Parkison: of John Sanchez: ok Phillip Parkison: things. John Sanchez: For Phillip Parkison: That's Peter Southern: Okay. Phillip Parkison: what they said John Sanchez: f Phillip Parkison: in the master class. John Sanchez: Oh, for the next meeting, right? Phillip Parkison: N Uh, Peter Southern: Who uh Phillip Parkison: next meeting starts in thirty minutes. So uh maybe you can go to Paris and Milan uh Peter Southern: Who Phillip Parkison: once again. Peter Southern: who gave you the master class? Phillip Parkison: The master class? Peter Southern: Ronald Betenberg? Phillip Parkison: Franz Mehler's. Peter Southern: Okay, thanks. Phillip Parkison: Uh, very special, uh next uh session. Uh idea that you uh the the industrial uh development uh centre and uh user interface uh will work together on a prototype. And uh will drawing it on the SMARTboard. So that's a kinda new uh thing. Peter Southern: Ah. Phillip Parkison: And um, Peter Southern will uh will uh ke he will be keeping busy with the product uh evaluation. But the most uh specific instructions will be sent to you by email. John Sanchez: Um Mark Fleming: So we're going to work together John Sanchez: Stay here Mark Fleming: right John Sanchez: and Mark Fleming: now? Phillip Parkison: Yeah, the well, uh dids this what I uh what I heard. I Peter Southern: In the master class. Phillip Parkison: Not in the master class. Peter Southern: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: So you uh just wait for the specific instructions and uh John Sanchez: P_. Phillip Parkison: But I think it was a very uh very good uh session, uh gentlemen. John Sanchez: Ah, Mark Fleming: Definitely. John Sanchez: no new Peter Southern: Peter Southern John Sanchez: email. Peter Southern: too. Phillip Parkison: I will John Sanchez: Okay. Phillip Parkison: thank you all. Mark Fleming: Well thank you too. John Sanchez: Thank you. Thank Phillip Parkison: And John Sanchez: you Phillip Parkison: uh John Sanchez: very much. Peter Southern: Thank you too, Phillip Parkison: Give Peter Southern Peter Southern: lord. Phillip Parkison: a good evaluation. John Sanchez: Yeah. Uh-huh. Peter Southern: 'Kay guys, Mark Fleming: You wish. Peter Southern: lot of success. Mark Fleming: M John Sanchez: See you. Mark Fleming: Aye? Cheers. Phillip Parkison: Cheers. See you in a half hour. Mark Fleming: Hey. Phillip Parkison: But keep an eye on your uh Mark Fleming: Yeah, uh Phillip Parkison: laptops Mark Fleming: I'm not sure Phillip Parkison: for Mark Fleming: if Phillip Parkison: a Mark Fleming: we Phillip Parkison: real Mark Fleming: uh we Phillip Parkison: uh Mark Fleming: Because I saw something about individual actions. Phillip Parkison: Yeah, but th there's there's still the my uh instructions that you will work together. John Sanchez: Yeah. Here? Or uh Phillip Parkison: That's John Sanchez: Yeah. Phillip Parkison: not my problem. John Sanchez: If you got Phillip Parkison: Bye-bye. John Sanchez: a No. So Stupid Mark Fleming: Well, John Sanchez: manager. Mark Fleming: yeah. Phillip Parkison: Phillip Parkison always works alone. Mark Fleming: Right. Uh Do you have new email? John Sanchez: No. Don't Mark Fleming: Hmm. John Sanchez: get what's

Phillip Parkison went over the agenda. Mark Fleming gave a presentation about the options for power source, materials and components. He recommended using kinetic energy, and having a double-curved rubber case. The group decided to combine batteries and kinetic energy. Peter Southern reported on current trends among young people for fresh fruity colours and spongy material. He explained that the remote should look fancy, and be technologically innovative and easy to use. He suggested using removable customisable covers, speech recognition, installing some games into the remote, and implementing a parental control feature. John Sanchez talked about having a simple layout with not many buttons. Most features will be controlled through the menu. The group discussed the various options and decided to use games but not speech recognition. After a lot of discussion they decided to implement a simple parental control feature. Phillip Parkison talked about what he had learned at a masterclass on knowledge management. The group discussed how to incorporate the company logo and motto onto the remote, including having an animated logo on the touch screen. Phillip Parkison gave the group instructions about what to do before the next meeting.

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Alfonso Cahill: Okay, all set? Welcome Bart Schlesener: Uh, Robert Jenkins: Yes. Bart Schlesener: okay. Alfonso Cahill: to the conceptual design meeting. The agenda. The opening. I'll again be the secretary and make minutes, take minutes, uh and it will be three presentations, just like the last meeting. So um, who wants to start off? Technical uh designer again? Bart Schlesener: Again. Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Bart Schlesener: Hmm. Alfonso Cahill: Uh, yeah. Uh, before we begin it, I want to say I've I've put the minutes of the uh second meeting in the shared folder, but they're still not uh quite okay. It uh it uh still some technical difficulties so the Bart Schlesener: Mm-hmm. Alfonso Cahill: the first part of the minutes are very hard to read, because there are two documents that uh were layered over each other. Walter Ramirez: Okay. Alfonso Cahill: So But uh, from now on I won't use my pen anymore, so will be p just ordinary Bart Schlesener: Uh, Alfonso Cahill: keyboard. Bart Schlesener: may be better, yeah. Walter Ramirez: Keyboard work. Alfonso Cahill: I Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: think it will will be more uh easy Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: for you to read the minutes. Walter Ramirez: Alright. Robert Jenkins: Okay, when we talk about uh design, um it's really about the material and the and uh uh really the we build uh the remote controls of. Um, a remote control consist of uh components and the components of a remote control consist of uh properties and material. We have to choose th uh these uh wisely and it could affect uh uh a kind of grow of in uh in buying uh the remote controls. Um, the components of a remote control are of course the case Uh the properties of the case, um it has to be solid uh in hard material like uh hard plastic uh with soft rubber for uh falling and and uh uh yeah, it feels uh good in your hand. Mm the buttons has to be uh solid too, and the material is soft rubber. Uh I've got a uh email from the possibilities of Real Reaction. Um uh they're telling Walter Ramirez that um when we build uh a remote control of um of plastic or rubber, the uh buttons have to be uh rubber too. Mm It's okay. Yeah. I when we use a rubbled a doubled curved case, we must use a rubber push-buttons to uh the the rubber double-curved case is a is a t uh three-dimensional uh curve in the in the design, which is uh necessary when we want to be trendy. Uh Um Bart Schlesener: Oh. Robert Jenkins: the energy source, uh I've got a lot of possibilities for that too. Um, uh the basic battery, which I thi prefer because of its uh its non uh non-depending of of of uh um Uh here you have to have a hand uh yeah, kinetic uh energy. Also in uh this one, like in the watches, but a remote control can lie on a table for a day, and then you push uh a button and so you don't have to uh walk with it all the all the time. Mm, solar cells are also uh a bit weird for uh remote controls. Um uh also the case material, uh I think that plastic is the is the best with rubber, because uh wood or titanium would also be a bit weird. Bart Schlesener: Oh titanium is probably trendy, I think. Walter Ramirez: That's true, I guess. Yeah. Bart Schlesener: Well, maybe a little bit expensive. I don't know. Walter Ramirez: Huh. Robert Jenkins: Uh, they don't tell anything about the cost of uh titanium. Um the chip uh the chip set uh and the board is uh all off the shelf. Also, the speaker in the remote control, when we want to retrieve it. Um, the base station is also off the shelf, all the materials and the components are uh just available in uh in our uh factory. Mm, I've told about uh the three first points. Mm, the simple electronical chip uh is is available uh with the LED transmitter uh transmitter. Uh, it's all uh off the shelf and even the speaker and the wireless retriever are all uh available in our company. Um, another possibility. I uh yeah, I looked up on was uh the L_C_D_ displays. Could be uh something special to our uh remote control, and it's possible, but it only cost a bit more, but maybe it can be uh within the limits of twenty five Euros. Alfonso Cahill: Twelve and a half. Robert Jenkins: Ah yeah. Alfonso Cahill: Actually Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: Yeah, production cost. Robert Jenkins: I th I got an email with uh some examples and it these were were the most trendiest one. You see uh a covers, which can be Alfonso Cahill: What are those, t tooth uh brushes, Robert Jenkins: Um, Alfonso Cahill: or so Robert Jenkins: I don't know. Um Alfonso Cahill: But it's actually kind Bart Schlesener: I Alfonso Cahill: of uh well, it resembles the design I had Robert Jenkins: Yes. Alfonso Cahill: in mind for this Walter Ramirez: Yep. Alfonso Cahill: proj You know the the cartoonish Alessi kind of design. Robert Jenkins: Yes, maybe we can uh bri uh bring a couple of uh Alfonso Cahill: And we can we can steal Robert Jenkins: couple Alfonso Cahill: their Robert Jenkins: of Alfonso Cahill: ideas. Robert Jenkins: types of uh maybe a kind of uh whole uh um a whole set of uh different uh remote controls. Maybe we can Alfonso Cahill: Huh. Robert Jenkins: bring a whole line uh with uh with a huge variety of uh Alfonso Cahill: Well, Robert Jenkins: uh house Alfonso Cahill: it's Bart Schlesener: Different Alfonso Cahill: a possibility, Robert Jenkins: uh stuff. Bart Schlesener: colours Alfonso Cahill: too. Bart Schlesener: also. Robert Jenkins: Like uh maybe radios and uh television Alfonso Cahill: Uh-uh. Robert Jenkins: also uh in this in this in the same style, but Walter Ramirez: Yeah, that'll Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Walter Ramirez: be for the future, I guess. Robert Jenkins: Yes, because we have to uh Alfonso Cahill: Next time we're here. Robert Jenkins: we have Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: to we have to bring the logo and all the stuff Alfonso Cahill: Oh, Robert Jenkins: uh Alfonso Cahill: okay. Robert Jenkins: back into it. Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Definitely. Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Robert Jenkins: Thank Walter Ramirez: Alright. Robert Jenkins: you. Bart Schlesener: Okay. uh Walter Ramirez: Yeah. That's okay. Bart Schlesener: Ah. Bart Schlesener: Well, I shall go to the next slide. Um um, I still don't have any information about user requirements. I was about just uh the basic functions and I got Alfonso Cahill: Oh, we Bart Schlesener: uh Alfonso Cahill: decided upon that in the last meeting. Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: Didn't Bart Schlesener: but Alfonso Cahill: we? Bart Schlesener: but then wh I don't know when there are new user requirements. Alfonso Cahill: Oh, okay. Bart Schlesener: I ha I Alfonso Cahill: Well, Bart Schlesener: ha Alfonso Cahill: tha Bart Schlesener: I Alfonso Cahill: I didn't Bart Schlesener: have the Alfonso Cahill: receive Bart Schlesener: I Alfonso Cahill: any Bart Schlesener: have Alfonso Cahill: new requirements or somethi Just Bart Schlesener: nothing. Alfonso Cahill: no, but we decided to use only b basic functions only. Bart Schlesener: Well, I have here a couple of basic functions I could think of. Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Bart Schlesener: I dunno if they're maybe a little bit more, but Alfonso Cahill: Well we maybe we can think of that later. Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: W just these are the ones you already summed up in the Bart Schlesener: Yeah, I I uh well, I pointed them out here, Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Bart Schlesener: just to make it a little bit easier. Um Another function uh is of course we already discuss it on the side. Um, I don't know what costs of it. Uh, I've no idea about it. Uh, I was also looking for what you said, for I got an email uh uh about uh L_C_D_ in in in front of the remote control. I don't know if that's a good idea, or maybe it's a little bit too much for twelve and a half. Production. Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: Uh-huh. Bart Schlesener: If we got already uh something like a Alfonso Cahill: That Bart Schlesener: base. Alfonso Cahill: might get redundant also maybe. I don't know what kind of Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: information Bart Schlesener: I don't know. Alfonso Cahill: it Bart Schlesener: I d Alfonso Cahill: would Bart Schlesener: I Walter Ramirez: Mm yeah. Bart Schlesener: uh ju I was just thinking about it. Then Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: I got a pop-ups Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, it's Robert Jenkins: Maybe Alfonso Cahill: okay. Bart Schlesener: to go Robert Jenkins: we Bart Schlesener: to Robert Jenkins: can Bart Schlesener: the meeting. Robert Jenkins: bring t Bart Schlesener: But Robert Jenkins: uh uh teletext to the t Bart Schlesener: The remote control. Robert Jenkins: to the remote control. Bart Schlesener: a Walter Ramirez: Then you Bart Schlesener: little Walter Ramirez: and then you've got a flag Bart Schlesener: uh too Walter Ramirez: s Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Bart Schlesener: A little bit Alfonso Cahill: That's Walter Ramirez: Very Alfonso Cahill: not Walter Ramirez: big R_C_. Yeah. Bart Schlesener: A little bit Alfonso Cahill: It was Bart Schlesener: too Alfonso Cahill: not Bart Schlesener: big, Alfonso Cahill: a good Bart Schlesener: I think. Alfonso Cahill: idea. Bart Schlesener: Exactly. Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Bart Schlesener: Um, yeah. Well, the functions are are not more to discuss, I Alfonso Cahill: No. Bart Schlesener: think. It's Alfonso Cahill: No. Bart Schlesener: it's Walter Ramirez: No. Bart Schlesener: just the base things we already discussed that the no V_C_R_ or that kind of uh, so that's very easy. Um Alfonso Cahill: But you do mention the next and previous uh button. Bart Schlesener: Mm-hmm. Walter Ramirez: Next channel, Bart Schlesener: Well, Walter Ramirez: previous Bart Schlesener: that's next Walter Ramirez: channel. Bart Schlesener: channel. Alfonso Cahill: Oh, Bart Schlesener: I Alfonso Cahill: okay, Bart Schlesener: mean Alfonso Cahill: o Bart Schlesener: next channel. Alfonso Cahill: okay Bart Schlesener: Uh Alfonso Cahill: okay. Bart Schlesener: Um oh, I I got an email with with an uh Alfonso Cahill: Huh. Bart Schlesener: a remote control with a base. So, it's uh just an idea. And I um uh thinked of the button sizes and I'm not sure uh if they have to be big or uh just small Robert Jenkins: But you're the expert. Walter Ramirez: I think it depends on the function. Bart Schlesener: Well, I'm not a e I'm the expert for user-friendly, but not for trendiness. Alfonso Cahill: Mm-hmm. Bart Schlesener: Maybe Walter Ramirez: Well, Bart Schlesener: it Walter Ramirez: if you save uh Perhaps uh s tiny buttons aren't user-friendly, then we wouldn't im implement that of course. Bart Schlesener: Well uh okay, that's your point. Um, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I've nothing to s Alfonso Cahill: Well, Walter Ramirez: Oh, that's Alfonso Cahill: w Walter Ramirez: right. Alfonso Cahill: when we only use basic functions, we have the possibility to make the buttons larger. Bart Schlesener: Uh, with a little Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: bit larger, yeah. I thought so, but maybe with the Alfonso Cahill: Well, I think we already agreed upon the fact that the the the skip buttons and the cha and the volume buttons, th th those two have Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: yeah, Bart Schlesener: that Alfonso Cahill: they have Bart Schlesener: groups. Alfonso Cahill: to be large. Uh, Bart Schlesener: Large? Alfonso Cahill: I mean th th the the two two basic buttons, you know, the to skip channels Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: and Walter Ramirez: Yep. Alfonso Cahill: to uh I think yeah, I don't know why, but I think that is that's t Bart Schlesener: Most Walter Ramirez: Those Alfonso Cahill: trendy Walter Ramirez: are probably Alfonso Cahill: too, Bart Schlesener: the most Walter Ramirez: the Alfonso Cahill: because Bart Schlesener: used Walter Ramirez: the Alfonso Cahill: that's Walter Ramirez: th Bart Schlesener: uh Alfonso Cahill: the mo it Bart Schlesener: buttons. Alfonso Cahill: it you know, it's uh acc acc um accentu uh, how do you say it? It puts an extra accent on the the on the simplicity of Walter Ramirez: Yes. Alfonso Cahill: our remotes Bart Schlesener: True. Alfonso Cahill: to j to make Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: these two most basic functions extra big, like Walter Ramirez: Those are Alfonso Cahill: t Walter Ramirez: probably the b four most most used buttons on the Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. Walter Ramirez: th in the Robert Jenkins: You Walter Ramirez: remote Robert Jenkins: did Alfonso Cahill: And Walter Ramirez: control. Robert Jenkins: the Alfonso Cahill: you Robert Jenkins: research. Alfonso Cahill: want Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: to acc accentuate that, you know. Walter Ramirez: Sorry? Robert Jenkins: It's from your research. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, sure. Bart Schlesener: Okay. Alfonso Cahill: So Bart Schlesener: Uh, that was all y uh personal preference I didn't have. I Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Bart Schlesener: didn't had any time left. So Alfonso Cahill: No uh, that's coo it's cool. Walter Ramirez: You don't care. No, sorry. Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Oh. Go away. Walter Ramirez: Come Bart Schlesener: It's Walter Ramirez: on. Bart Schlesener: there. Yeah, click on it. Couple time. Walter Ramirez: Oh, great. Well, I've done some research again about trends on the internet. Um I've done some investigation, and uh well I uh got some information from fashion watchers from Paris and uh Milan. Some uh some findings the most important thing is fancy look and feel of the remote control. Uh, well, we were going to imply that, so that's nice. The second important thing is uh innovative technology in the R_C_. Uh, our market really likes really likes that. And uh the third point there in this uh order if of importance, the third point, is a high ease of use. And uh, well, for the idea, I've put some trends uh for the market of elderly people. Dark colours, simple recognisable shapes. So we probably won't do that. The younger market likes uh Well, the themes of of this year are uh surprisingly fruits and vegetables and spongy material. I found this image, which is uh Well, it symbolises the idea of fruits and vegetables. I don't see the spongy part in it. But with a little bit of fancy Alfonso Cahill: Well maybe c then we have to do something with Sponge Bob then. Walter Ramirez: Exactly. I got some ideas Uh well, yeah, pictures isn't really good word, but um some symbols of fruits or vegetables maybe. Uh, catchy colours. Fruit is uh yellow, green, red, whatever. So, Alfonso Cahill: It doesn't Walter Ramirez: remote Alfonso Cahill: stroke Walter Ramirez: controls Alfonso Cahill: with the Walter Ramirez: in Alfonso Cahill: with the Walter Ramirez: in Alfonso Cahill: dark Walter Ramirez: catchy Alfonso Cahill: colours. Walter Ramirez: colours. Uh, no, we don't want dark colours. Alfonso Cahill: Not the dark colours? Okay. Walter Ramirez: No, I just put them there to uh, yeah, uh for general idea. Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Walter Ramirez: And uh, the docking st uh I think the spongy material is is very irritating for the uh remote control itself. But to Yeah, the To implement some spongy thing, maybe we can do it in the in the docking station. At the bottom of the docking station or whatever. And uh, we could bring one line with a dark colour uh to um uh p uh yeah uh uh v how do you say? Alfonso Cahill: For diversity or something. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: Uh Walter Ramirez: also a bit for elderly people who are a little bit crazy and want Bart Schlesener: Well, how Walter Ramirez: maybe Bart Schlesener: uh Walter Ramirez: want a little younger design but still the dark colour. I mean it it it reaches a different market uh, but it it it doesn't cost really much effort to b to uh bring uh like a black R_C_ on the market or whatever. Bart Schlesener: But Walter Ramirez: Yes. Bart Schlesener: how do we use uh fruits and vegetables in Christ's sake with remote Alfonso Cahill: No, Bart Schlesener: control? Alfonso Cahill: but I Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: I Walter Ramirez: there's Alfonso Cahill: I think Walter Ramirez: there's Bart Schlesener: Uh, Alfonso Cahill: that uh Walter Ramirez: always Alfonso Cahill: our Bart Schlesener: make Walter Ramirez: a Alfonso Cahill: design Bart Schlesener: it a banana? Alfonso Cahill: already resembles so a piece of fruit. It's Walter Ramirez: Well Alfonso Cahill: like a pear Walter Ramirez: there Alfonso Cahill: or Walter Ramirez: there's Alfonso Cahill: something. Walter Ramirez: always empty space of course on a remote control. I mean I think this part of the R_C_ uh well Alfonso Cahill: No, I don't think you have to do it Walter Ramirez: the Alfonso Cahill: like Walter Ramirez: upper the upper part or whatever is uh is not not used with buttons, I guess. So you you can put some fruity things Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, but it that doesn't have to remind you, you know, like explicitly of s our f of a of Walter Ramirez: No, Alfonso Cahill: a Walter Ramirez: of Alfonso Cahill: specific Walter Ramirez: course not. Alfonso Cahill: piece of fruit, but just, you know, like the the the the round curves. And so y I I think this Walter Ramirez: Especially Alfonso Cahill: y it already Walter Ramirez: i Alfonso Cahill: sem resembles uh something like a Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: pear Bart Schlesener: but Alfonso Cahill: to Walter Ramirez or something. Bart Schlesener: th Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Bart Schlesener: yeah, but Walter Ramirez: yeah. Bart Schlesener: that Walter Ramirez: Yeah, exactly. Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Walter Ramirez: If we Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. Walter Ramirez: make it Bart Schlesener: but Walter Ramirez: little Bart Schlesener: that's Walter Ramirez: bit greenish. Alfonso Cahill: You do get the idea, eh? The fruity Bart Schlesener: Yeah Alfonso Cahill: kind Bart Schlesener: uh Alfonso Cahill: of round Bart Schlesener: uh Walter Ramirez: A Alfonso Cahill: 'Kay. Walter Ramirez: and we could use one of these for the uh Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, Walter Ramirez: w Alfonso Cahill: uh Walter Ramirez: what is it? Alfonso Cahill: yeah, I don't know. Robert Jenkins: Grapes. Walter Ramirez: Uh Isn't Alfonso Cahill: Uh, this is a b yeah. Walter Ramirez: Wha whatever. Bart Schlesener: But d don't we need a creative artist or something like that to m Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, yeah. Bart Schlesener: make Alfonso Cahill: Of Bart Schlesener: it Alfonso Cahill: course Bart Schlesener: to feel Alfonso Cahill: we have Bart Schlesener: like Alfonso Cahill: uh Bart Schlesener: a a Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Bart Schlesener: a Walter Ramirez: sure. Bart Schlesener: a vegetable or fruit? Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: we have a very big uh Walter Ramirez: Well, w we can Alfonso Cahill: the s Walter Ramirez: uh w Robert Jenkins: For a big team Walter Ramirez: we can Robert Jenkins: of artists. Alfonso Cahill: Of d Walter Ramirez: we Alfonso Cahill: design Walter Ramirez: can produce Alfonso Cahill: team, yeah. Walter Ramirez: multiple uh multiple things. This is then the uh pear. I don't know the English word, Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, but Walter Ramirez: so forget it. Alfonso Cahill: It's pear, I guess. Walter Ramirez: And um, Robert Jenkins: But Walter Ramirez: maybe, Robert Jenkins: uh but I think Walter Ramirez: yeah, a Robert Jenkins: we Walter Ramirez: b Robert Jenkins: don't Walter Ramirez: a banana Robert Jenkins: have to make Walter Ramirez: is uh is n not easy for a remote control, but m yeah. Robert Jenkins: we Alfonso Cahill: No. Robert Jenkins: can't make all uh ten designs. We have to make one design I th I I think. Alfonso Cahill: No, but I think it's it's Walter Ramirez: Mayb Alfonso Cahill: already Walter Ramirez: maybe two or three. Alfonso Cahill: what we were were up to. Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: Uh, it's Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: it doesn't have to resemble uh what I already said, a specific piece of fruit, but just, Walter Ramirez: No Alfonso Cahill: you Walter Ramirez: sure, Alfonso Cahill: know, like Walter Ramirez: but Alfonso Cahill: a fruity Walter Ramirez: but Alfonso Cahill: thing going on. Walter Ramirez: B Alfonso Cahill: And it's it looks Walter Ramirez: but Alfonso Cahill: fruity Walter Ramirez: that's great, Alfonso Cahill: to Walter Ramirez. Walter Ramirez: and and and what I was what Alfonso Cahill: And Walter Ramirez: what Alfonso Cahill: uh, but Walter Ramirez: I was Alfonso Cahill: I Walter Ramirez: saying, Alfonso Cahill: do like Walter Ramirez: the catchy Alfonso Cahill: the Walter Ramirez: colours Alfonso Cahill: yeah, I do like uh the f uh to the idea of making a a y uh, a catchy colour design and a d because I do I think a dark colour would be nice too. Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: But pictures of fruit, Alfonso Cahill: Maybe it's too much, Robert Jenkins: vegetables Alfonso Cahill: you Bart Schlesener: But, Alfonso Cahill: know. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Bart Schlesener: we we have Walter Ramirez: uh Bart Schlesener: to um Walter Ramirez: not really. Robert Jenkins: vegetables Walter Ramirez: Pictures was a Bart Schlesener: There have to Walter Ramirez: was Bart Schlesener: be Walter Ramirez: a bad Bart Schlesener: the Walter Ramirez: word, Bart Schlesener: the Walter Ramirez: but Bart Schlesener: the the firm colours, our own Alfonso Cahill: Okay, Bart Schlesener: uh Alfonso Cahill: but Bart Schlesener: colours Alfonso Cahill: what Bart Schlesener: has Alfonso Cahill: are Bart Schlesener: to Alfonso Cahill: the Bart Schlesener: be Alfonso Cahill: This Bart Schlesener: in it. Alfonso Cahill: is Walter Ramirez: Well Alfonso Cahill: yellow. Walter Ramirez: we c yeah. Bart Schlesener: Yellow, a Real Reaction. Robert Jenkins: Yes, you can put a logo on top of it. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: But I don't Walter Ramirez: sure. Alfonso Cahill: think our Bart Schlesener: Uh, Alfonso Cahill: our Bart Schlesener: yeah. Alfonso Cahill: company colours are this fashionable. Walter Ramirez: Maybe we can Robert Jenkins: Yes, Walter Ramirez: if Robert Jenkins: it's really Walter Ramirez: if Robert Jenkins: fruity. Walter Ramirez: we got Bart Schlesener: We Walter Ramirez: our Bart Schlesener: uh Walter Ramirez: docking Bart Schlesener: f Walter Ramirez: station over here. I can't draw with this thing, but I'll try. Bart Schlesener: A yellow Walter Ramirez: If this Bart Schlesener: do Walter Ramirez: is our docking station, we can make Bart Schlesener: Uh, yeah. Walter Ramirez: our logo over here. It doesn't work. And then Bart Schlesener: Yeah, and the button then. Robert Jenkins: With a strawberry on top. Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, on uh Walter Ramirez: Well, Alfonso Cahill: n uh on the bottom of the remote Walter Ramirez: the button Alfonso Cahill: you can Walter Ramirez: button Alfonso Cahill: do Walter Ramirez: over here or whatever, I don't Bart Schlesener: Okay, Walter Ramirez: know. Bart Schlesener: yeah. Walter Ramirez: On the front, of course, because else you can't find it. Bart Schlesener: Okay. Walter Ramirez: Well, that were my ideas a little bit. I'll close Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Walter Ramirez: 'em down. Um, go away. Alfonso Cahill: Okay, you can you open the conceptual design Walter Ramirez: Conceptual Alfonso Cahill: presentation? Walter Ramirez: design, yes. Alfonso Cahill: See what was on the agenda. Bart Schlesener: Lazy. Walter Ramirez: The agenda. Alfonso Cahill: This is his own remote Because. um, Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: maybe we can start with the technical uh functions, but I don't think it's there uh, yeah um, do we want to um use an L_C_D_ display, for example? Robert Jenkins: Only if we Walter Ramirez: I don't I don't know what to display on it. Robert Jenkins: Maybe Walter Ramirez: I mean Robert Jenkins: maybe we Alfonso Cahill: Walter Ramirez Robert Jenkins: can Alfonso Cahill: neither. Robert Jenkins: make a T_V_ guide on it, for the channel you're on. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, but Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, but Walter Ramirez: it Alfonso Cahill: it's Walter Ramirez: should Alfonso Cahill: so Walter Ramirez: be li like this big, and I Robert Jenkins: No, Walter Ramirez: don't Robert Jenkins: no, Walter Ramirez: think Alfonso Cahill: I Robert Jenkins: only Alfonso Cahill: don't think Robert Jenkins: the Alfonso Cahill: we Robert Jenkins: T_V_ Alfonso Cahill: should do Robert Jenkins: channel Alfonso Cahill: it. Robert Jenkins: with the with uh with uh four programmes. You can uh zap through them with the page up page down button. Walter Ramirez: Yes sure, but it it has to to show an entire title of a programme or at least a q a quite Robert Jenkins: Yes, it Walter Ramirez: quite Robert Jenkins: can Walter Ramirez: large part of it and then Robert Jenkins: On Walter Ramirez: you Robert Jenkins: your Walter Ramirez: get a very large L_C_D_ Robert Jenkins: No, Walter Ramirez: screen, Robert Jenkins: on Walter Ramirez: because Robert Jenkins: your mobile phone you can y you can read text also. So why not on your remote? Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, but no. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: I Walter Ramirez: I don't Alfonso Cahill: do Walter Ramirez: know. Alfonso Cahill: I think it's a bit redundant, actually. And it's also not I don't th even think it it looks s like sexy Bart Schlesener: Well well Alfonso Cahill: or Bart Schlesener: what Alfonso Cahill: something, Bart Schlesener: would you Alfonso Cahill: it's Bart Schlesener: display on it then? Robert Jenkins: Uh, programme uh information Walter Ramirez: Programme information. Robert Jenkins: or Bart Schlesener: But Robert Jenkins: or Bart Schlesener: is Walter Ramirez: But Bart Schlesener: it Robert Jenkins: or Bart Schlesener: isn't Robert Jenkins: or Bart Schlesener: that Robert Jenkins: g Bart Schlesener: a already Robert Jenkins: or a guide Bart Schlesener: on T_V_, a lot of new T_V_s? Walter Ramirez: Well a lot a lot of Robert Jenkins: But Walter Ramirez: T_V_s indeed show uh when you uh Alfonso Cahill: But you're already Walter Ramirez: zap Alfonso Cahill: watching Walter Ramirez: to Alfonso Cahill: the Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Walter Ramirez: a Alfonso Cahill: T_V_, you're not gonna watch your remote control. Robert Jenkins: Yes, but you also want to know what's next. Walter Ramirez: But then we also uh w need to bring out a line of T_V_s which we were planning Bart Schlesener: Yeah, and Walter Ramirez: to, Bart Schlesener: we Walter Ramirez: but Bart Schlesener: also Walter Ramirez: whatever. Bart Schlesener: have to Walter Ramirez: Because Bart Schlesener: yeah. Walter Ramirez: the T_V_ has to send information back to the R_C_, and I don't know if that's Robert Jenkins: Yes, Walter Ramirez: possible. Robert Jenkins: that's uh really possible. Walter Ramirez: Yes, yes, o of course it's possible, but you gotta uh implement it in the T_V_s, and I don't think everyone's gonna buy a Real Reaction T_V_ within a month after the release of our uh remote Bart Schlesener: And Alfonso Cahill: I Walter Ramirez: control. Alfonso Cahill: really Bart Schlesener: I also Alfonso Cahill: understand you want to make your job more exciting by putting an L_C_D_ in it, but I I really don't think it's a good n goo because it also doesn't stroke with we wanted uh c When we talk about the materials, uh it's a good idea to use these plastic materials with soft rubber stuff on it. It was our idea, you know, to give it a more sturdy look and that you Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: ca like you can throw with it. But I don't think a L_C_D_ display fits in that image. You know, it's like more vulnerable, and it adds Walter Ramirez: That's Alfonso Cahill: nothing Walter Ramirez: true, Alfonso Cahill: really, Walter Ramirez: that's Alfonso Cahill: you know. Walter Ramirez: true, it breaks f yeah, it it it's not very solid, it's uh frag Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, yeah. Walter Ramirez: fragile. Alfonso Cahill: You could make it, but it's just it it doesn't I don't think it it's coherent with the design we're after. Walter Ramirez: No. No. I don't think so ei either. Alfonso Cahill: But that's my opinion. Well, you you y Okay, we can vote for it. You want the L_C_D_ display. Robert Jenkins: No. Alfonso Cahill: I don't want to and he doesn't, so it's up to him. If Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: we wanna Bart Schlesener: I Walter Ramirez: Ah. Bart Schlesener: dunno. Alfonso Cahill: And I've read somewhere that I've got some kind of veto veto uh rights. Bart Schlesener: Oh, Walter Ramirez: Bastard. Bart Schlesener: okay. Alfonso Cahill: So I can also say Bart Schlesener: We can you Alfonso Cahill: But did Bart Schlesener: away. Alfonso Cahill: we skip the Yeah, you could do m but what what i so what i but do Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: you think Bart Schlesener: I don't Alfonso Cahill: we should Bart Schlesener: know. Uh, uh I i if it's it's a simple Alfonso Cahill: We're not even Bart Schlesener: p Alfonso Cahill: sure what what information we want to display Bart Schlesener: No, Robert Jenkins: No Alfonso Cahill: on Bart Schlesener: that Alfonso Cahill: it. So Bart Schlesener: that's right, Robert Jenkins: uh Bart Schlesener: and Robert Jenkins: um Bart Schlesener: uh I also have to think about new functions, maybe buttons or something like that to control it. Kind of L_C_D_ or something or Robert Jenkins: Y yes, Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Robert Jenkins: you Walter Ramirez: I guess. Robert Jenkins: can use uh buttons uh uh w that are already uh on the remote control Bart Schlesener: But how Robert Jenkins: for Bart Schlesener: does Robert Jenkins: double Bart Schlesener: it Robert Jenkins: functions. Bart Schlesener: display then? W Robert Jenkins: Uh, then you Bart Schlesener: when Robert Jenkins: push Bart Schlesener: I go to Robert Jenkins: a Bart Schlesener: the Robert Jenkins: button. Bart Schlesener: second channel, what what does it show Walter Ramirez? Robert Jenkins: The title and the information about the programme. Bart Schlesener: About Robert Jenkins: But Bart Schlesener: that programme? Robert Jenkins: but uh yeah, what he said was right, about the televisions, they have to be uh customised Alfonso Cahill: Nah, Robert Jenkins: to the Alfonso Cahill: that's not gonna work. Robert Jenkins: But Walter Ramirez: No. Robert Jenkins: maybe in future it Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: will be a giant hit, and when you are the first you Alfonso Cahill: Oh, Robert Jenkins: have Alfonso Cahill: well Robert Jenkins: the Alfonso Cahill: uh I've Robert Jenkins: biggest Alfonso Cahill: seen it done Robert Jenkins: uh Alfonso Cahill: before. Do Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: you know th like the the bigger rem uh universal remotes, they have d L_C_D_ displays, but then it's very functional to indicate which what uh uh device you are controlling. So it's that that's what I've seen. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Robert Jenkins: Yes, Walter Ramirez: that's Robert Jenkins: you Walter Ramirez: true, Robert Jenkins: can put Walter Ramirez: if you Robert Jenkins: uh Walter Ramirez: uh Robert Jenkins: a little Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: L_C_D_ display on it with uh with lots of information. Alfonso Cahill: But Robert Jenkins: But Alfonso Cahill: it just Robert Jenkins: uh I Alfonso Cahill: it j Robert Jenkins: haven't thought Alfonso Cahill: it doesn't Robert Jenkins: about it. Alfonso Cahill: doesn't match with the our whole basic concept. Robert Jenkins: But whe but when you put a a a transparent uh plastic uh uh screen on top of it, it i it isn't vulnerable. Alfonso Cahill: Well Robert Jenkins: You can throw with Alfonso Cahill: yeah, yeah, Robert Jenkins: it Alfonso Cahill: okay. Robert Jenkins: and Alfonso Cahill: That's maybe not the most important, but it's just Bart Schlesener: Is it fashion? Robert Jenkins: When Alfonso Cahill: I don't Robert Jenkins: when Alfonso Cahill: think Robert Jenkins: you put Alfonso Cahill: so. Robert Jenkins: uh maybe a colour L_C_D_ t uh screen on it, it's very special and very trendy to have Bart Schlesener: I don't Robert Jenkins: uh Bart Schlesener: know. Robert Jenkins: a remote Bart Schlesener: That's Robert Jenkins: control Bart Schlesener: not up to you. That's up to Robert Jenkins: from Bart Schlesener: market if i if it's trendy. Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, well do you ha do you have to You haven't Walter Ramirez: No. Alfonso Cahill: looked after the trendiness of L_C_D_ displays, Bart Schlesener: Because Walter Ramirez: Well, Bart Schlesener: our Alfonso Cahill: have Walter Ramirez: I Bart Schlesener: our Walter Ramirez: think Bart Schlesener: motto Alfonso Cahill: you? Walter Ramirez: it's uh Bart Schlesener: is Walter Ramirez: I think Bart Schlesener: we put Walter Ramirez: it's pretty Bart Schlesener: fashion Walter Ramirez: trendy, to be honest, uh but um I don't know if if if well, I'm coming back to the costs again, but I think uh we gotta build a b pretty cheap design to to stay within our limits. And I think uh especially colour L_C_D_, which is indeed pretty trendy. But I don't think Uh, I think it will be too expensive. Robert Jenkins: But uh I've got a the email with uh with the possibilities. And L_C_D_ was a possibility for the remote Alfonso Cahill: Yeah yeah Robert Jenkins: control. Alfonso Cahill: yeah. Robert Jenkins: So why don't we use it. Walter Ramirez: Uh, Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, Walter Ramirez: did Alfonso Cahill: but Walter Ramirez: it Alfonso Cahill: we're Walter Ramirez: say Alfonso Cahill: gonna Walter Ramirez: a price Alfonso Cahill: if it Walter Ramirez: also uh for for uh monogramme uh L_C_D_ or uh coloured L_C_D_? Bart Schlesener: Yeah, if you want to be trendy you have to be coloured. Coloured Walter Ramirez: Yeah really, if y if you Bart Schlesener: If you have black Walter Ramirez: c i Bart Schlesener: and white or something, or grey, Walter Ramirez: I in Alfonso Cahill: Then Bart Schlesener: that's Alfonso Cahill: uh then Walter Ramirez: in Alfonso Cahill: you Walter Ramirez: two Alfonso Cahill: better Walter Ramirez: thousand Alfonso Cahill: don't Walter Ramirez: and four Alfonso Cahill: yeah, Walter Ramirez: you Alfonso Cahill: d Walter Ramirez: can't uh put something on the market which is a monogramme. Really. Robert Jenkins: No, but it doesn't sa say anything about a colour or But, mm, I alf I also got a possibility to put uh a scroll button on it. But Alfonso Cahill: Uh Robert Jenkins: I didn't Alfonso Cahill: uh I really Robert Jenkins: think Alfonso Cahill: don't Robert Jenkins: that Alfonso Cahill: feel the whole idea of an L_C_D_ display. I'm sorry. It can't co you cannot convince Walter Ramirez. I don't know how well how to with you guys, but I don't really feel it. We already we're Bart Schlesener: It's too Alfonso Cahill: uh Bart Schlesener: much uh maybe uh with Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, Bart Schlesener: with Alfonso Cahill: we Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: the Alfonso Cahill: already Bart Schlesener: L_C_D_ Alfonso Cahill: have Bart Schlesener: and Alfonso Cahill: the Bart Schlesener: the Alfonso Cahill: the Bart Schlesener: docking Alfonso Cahill: th th th Bart Schlesener: station Alfonso Cahill: base station Bart Schlesener: and Alfonso Cahill: gadgets, and want and it uh uh, do it has to be a simple design, which Robert Jenkins: Yes, but o Alfonso Cahill: sturdy, Robert Jenkins: on Walter Ramirez: W we've Robert Jenkins: the Walter Ramirez: we've gotta Alfonso Cahill: which Walter Ramirez: find Bart Schlesener: With one Walter Ramirez: a balance, Alfonso Cahill: soft Bart Schlesener: thing Walter Ramirez: of course. Bart Schlesener: special. Walter Ramirez: And I think Bart Schlesener: Not a whole Alfonso Cahill: I don't Bart Schlesener: package Alfonso Cahill: think Bart Schlesener: of specialty. Alfonso Cahill: I j uh, and really, I don't see how the the L_C_D_ display is gonna add anything, you know, on a design level. Uh, I think it's Robert Jenkins: No, Alfonso Cahill: slicker Robert Jenkins: when y Alfonso Cahill: to have no L_ CEDs. Y we want to Robert Jenkins: But Alfonso Cahill: it's Robert Jenkins: it look Alfonso Cahill: simplicity, w you have two big buttons and you can do whatever you want Robert Jenkins: Yes, but Alfonso Cahill: with these two buttons, so Robert Jenkins: that Alfonso Cahill: you don't Robert Jenkins: remote Alfonso Cahill: need Robert Jenkins: controls Alfonso Cahill: an L_C_D_. Robert Jenkins: are already on the market. Alfonso Cahill: It doesn't fit Robert Jenkins: The simple Alfonso Cahill: in our philosophy uh behind the whole remote. Robert Jenkins: Yes, but but when you want to have something special Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, but we already have the docking station, which is Robert Jenkins: Yes, Walter Ramirez: We have Robert Jenkins: but Walter Ramirez: a Bart Schlesener: And Robert Jenkins: you Walter Ramirez: pear. Robert Jenkins: had Bart Schlesener: uh Robert Jenkins: a Bart Schlesener: the Robert Jenkins: picture of it from another company. Alfonso Cahill: It has to be developed, Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: but no, but it that's that's Bart Schlesener: It's Alfonso Cahill: our Bart Schlesener: just Alfonso Cahill: that's Bart Schlesener: an Alfonso Cahill: our Bart Schlesener: it's just Alfonso Cahill: killer Bart Schlesener: an idea. Alfonso Cahill: feature. That's Bart Schlesener: It's Alfonso Cahill: our Robert Jenkins: Yes, Bart Schlesener: a it's Robert Jenkins: it Alfonso Cahill: what Robert Jenkins: was Alfonso Cahill: makes Robert Jenkins: already Alfonso Cahill: it special. Robert Jenkins: made. Tha the remote control Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, Bart Schlesener: True. Alfonso Cahill: we're gonna Robert Jenkins: on the docking Alfonso Cahill: develop Robert Jenkins: station. Alfonso Cahill: our own r Walter Ramirez: Is Alfonso Cahill: n Walter Ramirez: that Alfonso Cahill: docking Walter Ramirez: so? Alfonso Cahill: station. Walter Ramirez: Was it Robert Jenkins: Yes, he Bart Schlesener: Well Robert Jenkins: have Walter Ramirez: it Bart Schlesener: uh Robert Jenkins: a picture Walter Ramirez: wasn't just Bart Schlesener: I Robert Jenkins: of Bart Schlesener: uh Walter Ramirez: a Robert Jenkins: it. Walter Ramirez: prototype? Bart Schlesener: Yeah, I dunno. Walter Ramirez: Exactly, I've never seen it Alfonso Cahill: Uh, Walter Ramirez: in Alfonso Cahill: but Walter Ramirez: a store. Alfonso Cahill: re we really have to cut this off, I re I know you I I I I I get the idea you really like it, you know, the the L_C_D_ thing, but I I think it's it's not a good idea, and we have already mentioned all the arguments. I don't uh, do you guys agre How do you guys think? I d Bart Schlesener: No, it's too much. Walter Ramirez: I think it's a little too much, yeah. Bart Schlesener: It's overdone. Alfonso Cahill: Okay, we s skip Robert Jenkins: Okay. Alfonso Cahill: the L_C_D_ display. Walter Ramirez: Okay. Alfonso Cahill: I'm sorry, maybe Bart Schlesener: Democratically. Alfonso Cahill: you can Walter Ramirez: No. Alfonso Cahill: do something if we are at your own place, or make it make Robert Jenkins: Mayb Alfonso Cahill: it make it happen in your basement or something. Robert Jenkins: I will Alfonso Cahill: But Robert Jenkins: rule the world with Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: Probably Walter Ramirez: yeah, yeah, yeah. Alfonso Cahill: so. Okay. Robert Jenkins: it. Alfonso Cahill: But for the technical part. The m material, I think uh it was a good idea to use the plastic and uh the rubber. Robert Jenkins: Yes, Alfonso Cahill: Uh Robert Jenkins: maybe a bit of a cushion is Alfonso Cahill: Yeah yeah yeah, p Exactly. This Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: is what Walter Ramirez: for Alfonso Cahill: it Walter Ramirez: the Alfonso Cahill: w Walter Ramirez: spongy uh Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, but Robert Jenkins: Yes. Walter Ramirez: feel. Alfonso Cahill: it it was already Bart Schlesener: With a spongy Alfonso Cahill: what Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: we're Bart Schlesener: Bob feel. Alfonso Cahill: uh we're after, you know, to give it uh, you know, the soft touch in your hands Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: and also to, know, like Yeah, that is y the b airbag Robert Jenkins: Like a Alfonso Cahill: kind of Robert Jenkins: b Alfonso Cahill: thing. Robert Jenkins: yes. Alfonso Cahill: You Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: can st Bart Schlesener: you just Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Bart Schlesener: can Walter Ramirez: airbag. Bart Schlesener: drop it. Alfonso Cahill: throw it at your Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: little brother's Walter Ramirez: If you drop Alfonso Cahill: head. Walter Ramirez: it if you drop it the airbag comes out, Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Walter Ramirez: yeah. Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. No no no, not that Robert Jenkins: Maybe Alfonso Cahill: comfy. Robert Jenkins: it but then we have to look that it uh w uh will not um be too childish to see. Alfonso Cahill: Yeah yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's a that's a good point. And that's why I like the dark t col dark colour bit, you know, Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: because it may be the design uh, it's uh maybe it is a bit of Bart Schlesener: But Alfonso Cahill: the Bart Schlesener: not black I think. Alfonso Cahill: it's a bit nineties Walter Ramirez: No. Alfonso Cahill: maybe, what we're what we're up to rat fun to Bart Schlesener: Well Alfonso Cahill: this point. Bart Schlesener: if if it's fruit and vegetables, it have to be colourful. Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, that's Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: that's true, but Walter Ramirez: b Bart Schlesener: But Walter Ramirez: yeah, Bart Schlesener: can Walter Ramirez: that's Bart Schlesener: we Walter Ramirez: what Bart Schlesener: ge uh Walter Ramirez: w I I Alfonso Cahill: but Walter Ramirez: was Alfonso Cahill: it Bart Schlesener: uh Alfonso Cahill: has Walter Ramirez: pointing Alfonso Cahill: to be Walter Ramirez: at. Alfonso Cahill: a little big solid. It mustn't be too, n you know, th too overwhelming, then when you put it Bart Schlesener: Can Alfonso Cahill: on Bart Schlesener: we Alfonso Cahill: your Bart Schlesener: combine Alfonso Cahill: just Bart Schlesener: it or something? Uh with Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: uh yellow and black? Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, maybe so. Bart Schlesener: Make it a bee? Walter Ramirez: What? Bart Schlesener: A bee. Walter Ramirez: Oh, a bee. Oh. Alfonso Cahill: No, uh I don't like the yellow and black combination. But it is our company colours. Robert Jenkins: Yes, Alfonso Cahill: Apparently. Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Robert Jenkins: real real Bart Schlesener: it's our Robert Jenkins: good colours. Bart Schlesener: yeah. We we have to use yellow. Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Hmm. Robert Jenkins: Hmm. Alfonso Cahill: I don't like yellow, and uh maybe Walter Ramirez: Well, Alfonso Cahill: I Walter Ramirez: we Alfonso Cahill: don't Walter Ramirez: can Alfonso Cahill: know. Walter Ramirez: as as I Robert Jenkins: But that's not really fruity. Walter Ramirez: draw really nicely over there. We can put the logo on our uh on our base station. Uh, yeah. And maybe Alfonso Cahill: But Walter Ramirez: very very tiny on the remote control itself. But, i Alfonso Cahill: Okay, but what uh, what are other tef technical things we have to discuss? Robert Jenkins: Uh fronts of the We can have uh different uh uh fronts of the Alfonso Cahill: Should we do that? Robert Jenkins: telephone. Alfonso Cahill: I don't think you we should do that. Maybe just bring it Bart Schlesener: Different Alfonso Cahill: out in different Bart Schlesener: fronts. Alfonso Cahill: colours, but not Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: af that you can Walter Ramirez: I Alfonso Cahill: switch Walter Ramirez: guess that's that's Alfonso Cahill: fronts Walter Ramirez: enough. Alfonso Cahill: afterwards, that's also too much. People Walter Ramirez: That's Alfonso Cahill: don't Walter Ramirez: way too Alfonso Cahill: wanna Walter Ramirez: Nokia. Alfonso Cahill: spend more money Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: on their remote control, I guess. Bart Schlesener: Uh, you can you can l uh Robert Jenkins: Are these designs? Bart Schlesener: let choose the customer which colour he wants, Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, Bart Schlesener: yeah. Alfonso Cahill: yeah. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, definitely. Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Three Walter Ramirez: Just bring Bart Schlesener: three Walter Ramirez: more Bart Schlesener: or Walter Ramirez: designs Bart Schlesener: four Walter Ramirez: on the market. Bart Schlesener: uh four uh colours, Alfonso Cahill: But Bart Schlesener: or Alfonso Cahill: uh, Bart Schlesener: something Walter Ramirez: Why Alfonso Cahill: without Walter Ramirez: not, Bart Schlesener: like that. Alfonso Cahill: gon Walter Ramirez: yeah. Alfonso Cahill: uh okay. So, are we through the technical part then? Robert Jenkins: Yes. Alfonso Cahill: Okay. So we uh agreed upon uh n uh well, not u Robert Jenkins: It Alfonso Cahill: unanimously Bart Schlesener: Well, yeah, the Robert Jenkins: this a real Alfonso Cahill: or how you call Robert Jenkins: uh Alfonso Cahill: it, Robert Jenkins: young Bart Schlesener: Three Alfonso Cahill: but Bart Schlesener: to one. Robert Jenkins: young and dynamic Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: That's Robert Jenkins: uh uh styles. Alfonso Cahill: The materials you uh mentioned in your your personal Robert Jenkins: Yes. Alfonso Cahill: preferences were all were quite okay. O Bart Schlesener: And Robert Jenkins: Yes, Bart Schlesener: tita Alfonso Cahill: o only only Bart Schlesener: uh Alfonso Cahill: the Bart Schlesener: titanium, Alfonso Cahill: last point your Bart Schlesener: is uh is Alfonso Cahill: no titanium's Bart Schlesener: is it a no? Alfonso Cahill: not not Bart Schlesener: Is Alfonso Cahill: out of question, I guess. Robert Jenkins: But Bart Schlesener: It's Robert Jenkins: also Bart Schlesener: just like that, Robert Jenkins: w Bart Schlesener: th this titanium. Robert Jenkins: Yes, b bu but Alfonso Cahill: But Robert Jenkins: when Alfonso Cahill: is Robert Jenkins: we Alfonso Cahill: it Robert Jenkins: use Alfonso Cahill: possible Robert Jenkins: s Alfonso Cahill: to use Robert Jenkins: soft Alfonso Cahill: both the the Robert Jenkins: mm Alfonso Cahill: plastic and so uh soft things and t p titanium, as well? Walter Ramirez: Sure. Alfonso Cahill: Makes Robert Jenkins: Mm. Alfonso Cahill: it in a homogeneous Bart Schlesener: No, not all, Alfonso Cahill: uh Bart Schlesener: not all Alfonso Cahill: design. Bart Schlesener: of them. Robert Jenkins: But it it then it uh you can't throw it it. It will uh make a huge noise or break other stuff when you throw Alfonso Cahill: It Robert Jenkins: with Alfonso Cahill: will Robert Jenkins: uh Alfonso Cahill: it Robert Jenkins: titanium Alfonso Cahill: will break other stuff w Robert Jenkins: with Alfonso Cahill: when Robert Jenkins: your remote Alfonso Cahill: it's plastic, Robert Jenkins: control. Alfonso Cahill: as well. Robert Jenkins: No uh, Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: titanium Walter Ramirez: Yeah, that's Robert Jenkins: is a Walter Ramirez: true. Robert Jenkins: bit uh Alfonso Cahill: No, but uh uh, you Robert Jenkins: it's Alfonso Cahill: should Robert Jenkins: a bit Alfonso Cahill: ma Robert Jenkins: harder. Alfonso Cahill: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: But also on the colours, the Alfonso Cahill: Okay, Robert Jenkins: young Alfonso Cahill: think of the possibilities and make it in completely titanium. Well would it be more trendy? More chic? Walter Ramirez: Yeah, I think it Bart Schlesener: Uh, I think Walter Ramirez: I think Bart Schlesener: titanium Walter Ramirez: it does. Bart Schlesener: nowadays is way more often used than plastic. Robert Jenkins: Yes, but a titanium Bart Schlesener: In trendy things. Robert Jenkins: remote control, when you're uh watching T_V_ uh or your hands Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Robert Jenkins: are Walter Ramirez: o Robert Jenkins: a little bit sweaty, and the Walter Ramirez: On the other hand, if you want Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Walter Ramirez: to make fruit fruity Bart Schlesener: It's cold Walter Ramirez: stuff Bart Schlesener: in the winter. Walter Ramirez: with Robert Jenkins: Yes. Walter Ramirez: uh Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, but I I really like the idea of the the the plastic and the big kind of Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: thing. But the question is i then it's, you know, is is Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: it Walter Ramirez: that's Alfonso Cahill: fits Walter Ramirez: true, Alfonso Cahill: in our Walter Ramirez: that's Alfonso Cahill: s philosophy Walter Ramirez: true. Alfonso Cahill: to make it uh sturdy and simple and uh, know, like uh Robert Jenkins: Sports and gaming. Alfonso Cahill: When Robert Jenkins: Define. Alfonso Cahill: you make it titanium, it becomes more like some kind of gadget you actually don't need. And when it's big and plastic, it's like some fun stuff you can always have around. It's always fun to have something big and plastic Walter Ramirez: Yes. Bart Schlesener: You Alfonso Cahill: around. Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: have that uh M_P_ three player of Nike, I saw. Isn't that titanium with a little bit of rubber? Robert Jenkins: Yes, it's w Bart Schlesener: Isn't it Robert Jenkins: but it is uh plastic. Bart Schlesener: Is plastic? Well, it's titanium looking. Robert Jenkins: Yes, Walter Ramirez: What? Robert Jenkins: w we can do that on Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Robert Jenkins: the Bart Schlesener: he is. Here Robert Jenkins: on the Bart Schlesener: he is. Uh, the I don't know if you know the M_P_ three player of Nike. 'Kay, uh that Walter Ramirez: Oh, yeah. Bart Schlesener: that's Walter Ramirez: Okay, Bart Schlesener: very Walter Ramirez: yeah. Bart Schlesener: uh with rubber, Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Bart Schlesener: so Walter Ramirez: I Alfonso Cahill: that's Bart Schlesener: it's Walter Ramirez: see. Alfonso Cahill: beautiful. Bart Schlesener: very Robert Jenkins: We can Walter Ramirez: Yeah, but Robert Jenkins: make Walter Ramirez: but Robert Jenkins: this Walter Ramirez: but Robert Jenkins: as Bart Schlesener: rough. Robert Jenkins: a style too. Uh, this is uh just Alfonso Cahill: Oh, Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: maybe Robert Jenkins: a Walter Ramirez: I Alfonso Cahill: th Walter Ramirez: th Alfonso Cahill: maybe Walter Ramirez: I think Alfonso Cahill: this is Walter Ramirez: that's Alfonso Cahill: an Walter Ramirez: difficult, because uh that's different material, and then you gotta have like uh uh uh two material lines Robert Jenkins: No, Walter Ramirez: of Robert Jenkins: we Walter Ramirez: of Robert Jenkins: c we can Walter Ramirez: of Robert Jenkins: make it from the same kind of plastic. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, if it's just a colour uh which you uh which you change then, I guess it's it's nice to have one of these. Uh Robert Jenkins: Uh Alfonso Cahill: No, I do like the idea of maybe a t titanium kind type of body w and then with s plastic colouration around it. You Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: know, like the the soft stuff, but I don't know if it's possible. Robert Jenkins: I don't have the information. Uh, I I didn't got it Alfonso Cahill: But you can't make the plastic give uh the ti titanium look. Robert Jenkins: Yes. Bart Schlesener: True. Alfonso Cahill: But make Walter Ramirez: Mm-hmm. Alfonso Cahill: it just like shiny. Bart Schlesener: Yeah yeah, true. Alfonso Cahill: Maybe Robert Jenkins: Like Alfonso Cahill: we should Robert Jenkins: the Alfonso Cahill: uh Robert Jenkins: M_P_ Alfonso Cahill: shou Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Robert Jenkins: three player. Bart Schlesener: maybe that's good idea, yeah. But if you want to la uh yeah, last longer Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: than two weeks or something Alfonso Cahill: And Bart Schlesener: like Alfonso Cahill: uh and Bart Schlesener: that, you can maybe Alfonso Cahill: maybe we sh should we t I don't know if we should talk about uh, how how much time Robert Jenkins: Uh, in Alfonso Cahill: have Robert Jenkins: a Alfonso Cahill: we Robert Jenkins: lot Alfonso Cahill: got left? Robert Jenkins: of other uh Bart Schlesener: I don't know. What time Alfonso Cahill: Forty Bart Schlesener: does Alfonso Cahill: minutes. Robert Jenkins: in a lot of other product uh categories like uh even in b in bags industry. Uh, they began with uh t typical uh leather bags, but then they became stylish, with all all si all sort of colours, and Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: w kind of fon of uh of fronts, Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Robert Jenkins: like we can use on the telephone and it Like Eastpack uh began a revolution with it with all this uh kind of bags and and colours and Alfonso Cahill: You putting Robert Jenkins: and Alfonso Cahill: in different colours. Robert Jenkins: Yes, and and styles. Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Robert Jenkins: They have uh also uh a kind of uh um uh roses on it, a and Walter Ramirez: Uh Robert Jenkins: uh Walter Ramirez: yeah, Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Walter Ramirez: yeah. Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, but w yeah. Well, it is. It's a possibility. But, let's think Robert Jenkins: Then Alfonso Cahill: about the Robert Jenkins: we Alfonso Cahill: bas Robert Jenkins: can always uh use the same design for a greater resemblance, but with new uh Walter Ramirez: Yes. Robert Jenkins: with new colours, new Walter Ramirez: New prints Alfonso Cahill: Mm-hmm, Robert Jenkins: yes. Walter Ramirez: on it. Yep. Alfonso Cahill: mm-hmm. But wha th our basic idea y I mean, you gonna we're probably gonna have like two type of materials, like the d d b the plastic uh enclosure and then the the pads that surround it. And and pro and lights. We have to incorporate the lights too. But, uh do w gonna gonna are we going to give it a two-tone colour look, like the the plastic mould is in in one colour and the s the cushion pads around it are in another colour? Is that the idea? Is that a good idea? Walter Ramirez: How do you mean? Th th the uh Bart Schlesener: The rubber. Walter Ramirez: base Alfonso Cahill: How many Walter Ramirez: in a Alfonso Cahill: colours Walter Ramirez: in another Alfonso Cahill: are we how many colours are we gonna we're uh uh f uh f Only five minutes left, by the way. Walter Ramirez: Yes. Alfonso Cahill: How many colours are we gonna give it? Like two-tone Robert Jenkins: There Alfonso Cahill: colour? T Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: there Bart Schlesener: Uh Robert Jenkins: are three Bart Schlesener: no, not Robert Jenkins: uh components Bart Schlesener: too much I think. Robert Jenkins: three components type. You have the buttons, the the Walter Ramirez: How the buttons Robert Jenkins: case Walter Ramirez: yeah. Robert Jenkins: uh itself, Alfonso Cahill: I think maybe the case Robert Jenkins: and the Alfonso Cahill: itself Robert Jenkins: rubber Alfonso Cahill: should Robert Jenkins: and th Alfonso Cahill: be in one colour and then the rubber of the buttons, and the cushions Robert Jenkins: Yes. Alfonso Cahill: as well should be in another Bart Schlesener: Or Alfonso Cahill: colour. Bart Schlesener: you just Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: make uh one colour, uh maybe with a a z a kind of like a big wave or something like uh Alfonso Cahill: Okay, but not Bart Schlesener: In Alfonso Cahill: more Bart Schlesener: in Alfonso Cahill: than Bart Schlesener: another colour. Alfonso Cahill: Well, yeah, Bart Schlesener: Not Alfonso Cahill: it's Bart Schlesener: more than two colours Alfonso Cahill: No. Bart Schlesener: I think. Walter Ramirez: No, Bart Schlesener: It's Walter Ramirez: definitely Bart Schlesener: a g a Walter Ramirez: not. Bart Schlesener: little Alfonso Cahill: Maybe we should Bart Schlesener: bit too Alfonso Cahill: talk Bart Schlesener: flashy. Alfonso Cahill: about it on a l in Walter Ramirez: Yes, Alfonso Cahill: a Robert Jenkins: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: later meeting. Robert Jenkins: or Walter Ramirez: definitely. Robert Jenkins: or when you use the buttons as black, it you can use two colours as well Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Robert Jenkins: uh Alfonso Cahill: But we have to uh think of some other uh important things. Uh oh yeah, the the functionalities Bart Schlesener: The Alfonso Cahill: of Bart Schlesener: funct Alfonso Cahill: the the Bart Schlesener: yeah, Alfonso Cahill: buttons. Bart Schlesener: I was I was thinking about th the st do we still want a joystick idea. Alfonso Cahill: No. Walter Ramirez: No, I think that's too vulnerable. Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: I think this is okay, the so we have the basic. Then we have the numbers. We have the power button. We have Bart Schlesener: The Alfonso Cahill: we have a teletext button. Bart Schlesener: volume, teletext and Alfonso Cahill: And maybe want to access a a menu or something. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, but Alfonso Cahill: Most Walter Ramirez: that's Alfonso Cahill: T_V_s Walter Ramirez: that's Alfonso Cahill: have a Walter Ramirez: I Alfonso Cahill: menu. Walter Ramirez: was thinking that's gotta be on the television. Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, but Bart Schlesener: Yeah Alfonso Cahill: I think Bart Schlesener: yeah yeah Alfonso Cahill: you ha Bart Schlesener: yeah, Alfonso Cahill: I really need Bart Schlesener: b Alfonso Cahill: a menu button. That's just i the Bart Schlesener: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: only Bart Schlesener: but Alfonso Cahill: button Bart Schlesener: wha what Alfonso Cahill: only Bart Schlesener: kind of menu? Alfonso Cahill: You know, Bart Schlesener: Is Alfonso Cahill: I Bart Schlesener: uh isn't that different from every television? Alfonso Cahill: No, I think most T_V_s Walter Ramirez: Mm. Alfonso Cahill: have an uh Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: a Walter Ramirez: if Alfonso Cahill: menu Walter Ramirez: it's c Alfonso Cahill: nowadays Walter Ramirez: if Alfonso Cahill: to access the uh uh screen settings. And Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: so Walter Ramirez: I think it's okay to to add a menu button for uh Alfonso Cahill: But that Walter Ramirez: and if Alfonso Cahill: that Walter Ramirez: the Alfonso Cahill: covers Walter Ramirez: T_V_ doesn't Alfonso Cahill: all the Walter Ramirez: have a menu, Alfonso Cahill: all the Walter Ramirez: then Alfonso Cahill: other settings. It covers everything then. Robert Jenkins: But then Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Robert Jenkins: you have to put uh up and down and uh left Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Robert Jenkins: and right Walter Ramirez: you Alfonso Cahill: No, Walter Ramirez: can Alfonso Cahill: you can Walter Ramirez: put Alfonso Cahill: use Walter Ramirez: that on Alfonso Cahill: the Walter Ramirez: the two eight four and six Alfonso Cahill: And you Walter Ramirez: or Alfonso Cahill: al Walter Ramirez: whatever. Alfonso Cahill: can also use the normal Robert Jenkins: Okay. Alfonso Cahill: skip buttons for that. Th in that way Walter Ramirez: Mm, Alfonso Cahill: we Walter Ramirez: yeah. Alfonso Cahill: have like only the numbers, the power button, skip and volume, and then uh uh ten uh rem Walter Ramirez: A mute and Alfonso Cahill: uh yeah, Walter Ramirez: a Bart Schlesener: Mute. Walter Ramirez: teletext Alfonso Cahill: mute. A teletext Walter Ramirez: and a menu. Alfonso Cahill: and a menu, and then then i Walter Ramirez: That's Alfonso Cahill: that's Walter Ramirez: all. Alfonso Cahill: it. It's all we need. Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Walter Ramirez: Hmm. Alfonso Cahill: Okay, Walter Ramirez: Great. Alfonso Cahill: uh Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Bart Schlesener: Okay, that's not mu Alfonso Cahill: another Bart Schlesener: not Alfonso Cahill: stuf Bart Schlesener: much functions. Alfonso Cahill: some stuff Bart Schlesener: So Alfonso Cahill: about the the the design of the docking station. Something important about a s uh, no, uh which sh uh should remind us of the remote itself, I guess. Walter Ramirez: Yeah, definitely. Alfonso Cahill: Uh, in one colour. Walter Ramirez: Are we gonna Alfonso Cahill: Just Walter Ramirez: do Alfonso Cahill: use Walter Ramirez: something with the uh spongy thing there? Alfonso Cahill: I think the Robert Jenkins: Uh Alfonso Cahill: spongy thing already um comes forward in the in the in the cushions, pads and Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: things on the Walter Ramirez: that's Alfonso Cahill: s uh Walter Ramirez: true, Alfonso Cahill: side. Walter Ramirez: that's Alfonso Cahill: And we Walter Ramirez: true. Alfonso Cahill: will make it spongy and and uh and uh well, the fruity thing is just the shape should be fru i did I think this is kind of fruity, you know. Just round shapes with uh Walter Ramirez: Yeah, it's kinda fruity, and with th with catchy colours uh Alfonso Cahill: Yeah, Walter Ramirez: uh Alfonso Cahill: but we're gonna have Walter Ramirez: w Alfonso Cahill: to we really have to think I think colours is very important, because it has to be flashy, but and but it d it doesn't have to be annoying, that when you uh, know, some things is just over the top, and when you have Walter Ramirez: Yeah, Alfonso Cahill: it on Walter Ramirez: definitely. Alfonso Cahill: your table for more than two weeks, you it just gets annoying, because it's so big and flashy. Uh, it has to be some level of subtlety, but we have to still have to think of how we manage to uh to get Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: to that. Okay. Walter Ramirez: Okay. Alfonso Cahill: Guess we're through then. Walter Ramirez: I Bart Schlesener: Okay. Walter Ramirez: guess so. Alfonso Cahill: But we I think also we just so we have to do something with colour but also, I I think we have to keep the dark colour thing in mind. I think Walter Ramirez: Yes. Alfonso Cahill: that's Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: uh adds to the too much colour maybe m Bart Schlesener: Too much Alfonso Cahill: um Bart Schlesener: colour, i it uh when you got it in a living room, it's Alfonso Cahill: But Bart Schlesener: too Alfonso Cahill: our Bart Schlesener: much Alfonso Cahill: des Bart Schlesener: maybe. Alfonso Cahill: design Walter Ramirez: Yea yeah. Alfonso Cahill: experts Bart Schlesener: It Alfonso Cahill: will Bart Schlesener: has to Alfonso Cahill: uh Bart Schlesener: be Alfonso Cahill: work that out. Okay, Walter Ramirez: Yep. Alfonso Cahill: well Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: I think the meeting will be over within a minute. So Walter Ramirez: Something Alfonso Cahill: we will Walter Ramirez: like Alfonso Cahill: wrap Walter Ramirez: that. Alfonso Cahill: up. Or is there anything we'd like to discuss? Walter Ramirez: I guess not. Alfonso Cahill: That's right. Okay. Walter Ramirez: Do you, guys? Bart Schlesener: No. Walter Ramirez: No? Alfonso Cahill: Okay. Well, you will read the minutes uh in the you can find them Walter Ramirez: In Alfonso Cahill: in Walter Ramirez: the shared Alfonso Cahill: the Bart Schlesener: Oh, okay, Walter Ramirez: folder. Bart Schlesener: yeah. Alfonso Cahill: pro probably. Yeah uh no, for su for sure because I'm will now type them out. Robert Jenkins: What are we going to do now? Alfonso Cahill: Uh, Walter Ramirez: You'll Alfonso Cahill: y yeah. Walter Ramirez: see in you email, Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Walter Ramirez: I guess. Alfonso Cahill: I think uh Walter Ramirez: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Bart Schlesener: I hope so. And the other thing is that you don't have kind of prototype or something like that. You see a kinda prototype you can Robert Jenkins: I Bart Schlesener: a Robert Jenkins: will Bart Schlesener: little Robert Jenkins: make one Bart Schlesener: bit more Robert Jenkins: in the Bart Schlesener: uh Robert Jenkins: next uh twenty minutes. Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Walter Ramirez: Construct one, yeah. Alfonso Cahill: But Bart Schlesener: With you laptop? Alfonso Cahill: toilet paper roll Bart Schlesener: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: and uh Okay. Bart Schlesener: Oh my God. Walter Ramirez: Alright, shall we get back to work? Alfonso Cahill: Yep. Walter Ramirez: Great. Alfonso Cahill: I was waiting for Bart Schlesener: Well Alfonso Cahill: the Bart Schlesener: you Alfonso Cahill: l Bart Schlesener: are. Alfonso Cahill: last Walter Ramirez: Yeah. Alfonso Cahill: message, Bart Schlesener: We're not. Alfonso Cahill: but Walter Ramirez: Bastard. Robert Jenkins: Back to the pen. Walter Ramirez: You lazy Alfonso Cahill: Mm yeah.

Robert Jenkins talked about the options available for materials and components. He suggested that the case should be double-curved, and be made from plastic and rubber rather than wood or titanium. He also recommended using basic batteries rather than solar or kinetic power. He also mentioned the possibility of using an LCD screen to add something special. Bart Schlesener went over the functions to be included in the remote. The group discussed using large buttons for the most frequently used functions. Walter Ramirez gave a presentation on trend watching. A fancy look and feel is most important to users, followed by technological innovation and ease of use. The younger market also likes the theme of fruit and vegetables and spongy material, which could be implemented through fruity colours and using a spongy material for the base. The group discussed how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme, as well as the company colours and logo. The group discussed whether to include an LCD screen, and eventually decided against it. Alfonso Cahill closed the meeting and told the group they would receive emails about their tasks for the next meeting.

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Melvin Peirce: So welcome. The first kick-off meeting. What we do? First the opening, then the rest. What are we going to do. We m have to make a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy and user-friendly. So we will get back th on that. First we have to make a functional design. After that we have to make a conceptual design, and then after that a detailed design. So we'll discuss that later. First we have a look at. to we have to make a small painting. What have do we have to do. First you can save the documents. We have to do that every time we make something. You can print it. No. And we have to use the pen and the eraser. So Now. We all have to use this one. You have to make your own favourite animal. So I'll make an example. David Mcallister: Yep. Melvin Peirce: First don't touch that things. You can use the pen. And then you can make um something. Brett Reyes: Nice. Melvin Peirce: Um you can change some things. Um format, line, and change it. And you can change the colour. Brett Reyes: elephant. Melvin Peirce: So that's it. So Melvin Peirce: So and after it you have to save it. David Mcallister: Okay. Melvin Peirce: Now we can make a new one. You have to paint now. David Mcallister: Oh. Melvin Peirce: So you're next. Brett Reyes: 'Kay. David Mcallister: Well we will try. Where it going? Danny Patterson: Hmm. That's uh strange. Melvin Peirce: What is going on? Brett Reyes: pop-ups. Melvin Peirce: What are David Mcallister: Hmm. Melvin Peirce: you What? Brett Reyes: What is this, Pictionary. David Mcallister: Uh Melvin Peirce: Um Brett Reyes: Uh Melvin Peirce: Is Brett Reyes: a Melvin Peirce: a It Brett Reyes: bird. Melvin Peirce: is a It is a Brett Reyes: Bird. Melvin Peirce: A duck. David Mcallister: Mm. So Now save? Brett Reyes: Yeah. Melvin Peirce: Yes. Hmm. David Mcallister: Now uh blank? Melvin Peirce: Blank, yes. Danny Patterson: Yeah. David Mcallister: Yeah. Melvin Peirce: Okay next one. Danny Patterson: Okay. Let's try Brett Reyes: Whoo. Danny Patterson: this. Uh David Mcallister: Yeah, yeah. Danny Patterson: Um. Mm-hmm. Mm. Brett Reyes: Oh not. Oh. Melvin Peirce: Oh. Brett Reyes: Okay. Okay. Yeah. No problem. Shit happens. David Mcallister: I'm not getting anything uh on my screen now. Okay. Brett Reyes: A parrot. David Mcallister: Wow. Brett Reyes: Ish. David Mcallister: Oh. Brett Reyes: He did it before. Danny Patterson: Uh Danny Patterson: No, no. Yeah. Okay. David Mcallister: Nice. Brett Reyes: Oh. Melvin Peirce: Very good. Danny Patterson: Uh blank. Brett Reyes: Thank you. Melvin Peirce: Okay. Very good. So um you can always go back. So That's it. So that was two. Now next. The budget. The b Uh we will sell the t at twenty five Euros. And we have only twenty of twelve and a half Euro to make it. So now we have to think about what we will make. First I wanna hear from you. Uh what are your experiences with remote controls. So Brett Reyes: Uh I will start. Melvin Peirce: F Brett Reyes: Uh Melvin Peirce: first. Brett Reyes: Big one, they are uh not easy to use. when I dropped it, uh it broke. So that won't be uh our goal, I think. Danny Patterson: No. Brett Reyes: And uh g big buttons, m uh that's easier to use than uh I think. Not all the small buttons, you Melvin Peirce: Is Brett Reyes: don't Melvin Peirce: this Brett Reyes: know Melvin Peirce: positive or negative, that uh big buttons? Brett Reyes: Big buttons, positive. Melvin Peirce: Positive. Brett Reyes: All all small buttons like when you have uh like a hundred buttons on your remote control, you won't know what they're working for. Melvin Peirce: Okay. What are your experiences? Danny Patterson: Uh well I think the the the goal of a remote control is that it's it it has an influence on the T_V_ set. And that Melvin Peirce: Mm. Danny Patterson: it controls the channels and the the volume. And uh I I I think it's positive if corner of the of the remote. So that you know it s it still has batteries on it in it. And that if you push the button the LED uh gives a light, and uh and you see that it's working. And uh yeah. Uh Melvin Peirce: So Danny Patterson: Yeah, Melvin Peirce: and Danny Patterson: but Melvin Peirce: do they always have that? Danny Patterson: No no no. But I my my experience is that it it it's convenient Melvin Peirce: It's Danny Patterson: to have Melvin Peirce: easy Danny Patterson: that. Melvin Peirce: to you. Danny Patterson: Yeah. Melvin Peirce: Okay. Danny Patterson: Yeah. Melvin Peirce: 'Kay. David Mcallister: Uh at home we have a T_V_, a video uh recorder, a D_V_D_ player, and a satellite receiver. have uh four distinctive remote controls Brett Reyes: Thank David Mcallister: for that. Brett Reyes: you. David Mcallister: That's not really ea easy. Brett Reyes: Help also. David Mcallister: So it would be nice if we have one for all. Brett Reyes: Thank you. David Mcallister: And we also had a remote control for our radio set. But um i it it had a lot of buttons on it, and you didn't know which one was what. And it was uh uh v not easy to use. So we n barely used it. Melvin Peirce: Okay so they have too much. So Danny Patterson: Hmm. Melvin Peirce: next. For our own remote control we have to think how do we make it. So what ideas do you have for it, for the new remote control? What what does it have to have? Brett Reyes: The weight. Not not too heavy. Melvin Peirce: Not too heavy. Brett Reyes: Not Melvin Peirce: Yes. Brett Reyes: much buttons. Melvin Peirce: Yeah. Brett Reyes: Bust-free. That when you drop it, it won't break. Like uh some kind of rubber on it. Or hard uh hard plastic. Uh buttons not too small. Brett Reyes: Uh something like when you uh lose your uh remote control, sometimes it happen. Melvin Peirce: Yes. Brett Reyes: Uh it between the couch and you can't find it. When you push a but a button on the T_V_, then you hear some uh some sort of bleep. Melvin Peirce: Like Brett Reyes: And Melvin Peirce: a Brett Reyes: then Melvin Peirce: phone. Brett Reyes: you uh, hey there there's remote control. David Mcallister: Yeah. Melvin Peirce: Okay. Danny Patterson: Yeah. Melvin Peirce: So, Brett Reyes: Next. Melvin Peirce: that's. Danny Patterson: Yeah well that's that are good ideas. Uh Yeah well the LED on the corner, that that indicates that it's working. If you push a button. Um Yeah. And looking on the budget, not too expensive uh material. So probably plastic or something. Uh Melvin Peirce: Okay. David Mcallister: Yeah I think it uh from a marketing point of view, it also has to look nice. Or you won't sell it. Melvin Peirce: Yes. David Mcallister: And um yeah uh on our website we can see what products we already have. And it should work with as many uh as possible of them. Melvin Peirce: Okay. This is It has to be compatible with other things. David Mcallister: Yes. Melvin Peirce: Okay. Brett Reyes: I have one more idea. Just popped up. Melvin Peirce: Yes? Brett Reyes: Uh it it won't take a lot of batteries. So you don't won't have to change the batteries uh once a week or uh once every two weeks. Melvin Peirce: No battery use. So more ideas? Danny Patterson: Mm no. Melvin Peirce: No okay. It's only the first ideas. So uh what are we going to do now is Next meeting is in half an h hour. Uh Okay. Next meeting, half an hour. Um, what you have to do. Well look on your. And Next instructions you'll get in your email. So This is the first meeting. See you later in half an hour. Danny Patterson: Yes. Brett Reyes: Okay. David Mcallister: Okay. Brett Reyes: Thank you.

For the first meeting, the task of designing a remote control was briefly introduced along with the plan for the subsequent meetings. The group then drew animals to practise using the drawing platform. They discussed their likes and dislikes regarding current remote controls, including ease of use, multiple systems and power indicators. They then offered suggestions as to what they would like from their remote. They would like the remote to be durable, for it to include a device to help find it when lost and not use too many batteries.

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Roberto Hall: Welcome back. Felix Bazile: Hello. Fred Larue: Hello. Roberto Hall: Uh let Fred Larue see. Felix Bazile: There's one of mine. Roberto Hall: Okay Roo. welcome back. Felix Bazile: Hello, Flores. Roberto Hall: The waiting is for Sebastian. There he is. Felix Bazile: We Michael Riley: Is Felix Bazile: have Michael Riley: there Felix Bazile: a slight Michael Riley: any time Felix Bazile: problem. Michael Riley: for a cup of coffee? Felix Bazile: I opened uh the Roberto Hall: Sorry? Felix Bazile: C_D_ ROM box Michael Riley: Can I get Felix Bazile: uh Michael Riley: a Felix Bazile: guys. Michael Riley: cup of coffee? Roberto Hall: Uh no. Michael Riley: Okay. Roberto Hall: You can't, sorry. Felix Bazile: So just cancel it. Michael Riley: Well, during my work I have no time either. So Roberto Hall: Well, this is life. Sorry uh, Roo. Felix Bazile: Yeah, I opened the C_D_ ROM box. Roberto Hall: Okay. Felix Bazile: Accidentally. Roberto Hall: Okay. Felix Bazile: But it's alright. Roberto Hall: People, welcome back with the second meeting. Um for now on the schedule are a few points. Uh first of all the opening, which we are doing now. Um second, I received um some new project requirements. I'm not sure if you received them as well, um but I will tell you about it. Felix Bazile: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: Um then um the three of you uh prepared a presentation, I think? Sebastian? Michael Riley: I think so too. Roberto Hall: Roo? Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: Ruud? Fred Larue: Almost. Roberto Hall: Almost, okay. Then we'll do your one uh uh as la uh the last. Um the top Felix Bazile: But you can't Roberto Hall: goal of Felix Bazile: upload Roberto Hall: this m Felix Bazile: your presentation from here, I believe. Roberto Hall: Um we will figure that out. Felix Bazile: Okay. Roberto Hall: Ca Fred Larue: Uh Roberto Hall: can Fred Larue: if Roberto Hall: you try Fred Larue: it Roberto Hall: to Fred Larue: if it wireless I could just uh Roberto Hall: Yeah, Fred Larue: it in the. Roberto Hall: w we will see. Felix Bazile: I don't think it's wireless Roberto Hall: Um Felix Bazile: here. Michael Riley: It is. Felix Bazile: Or it is. Roberto Hall: it Michael Riley: It Roberto Hall: is, Michael Riley: is. Felix Bazile: Yeah? Roberto Hall: yeah. Felix Bazile: Okay, Fred Larue: Uh okay. Felix Bazile: great. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Um the top goal of this meeting is to reach a decision on the product, on the target group um and and the functions of the remote control, so keep that in mind. Um we have forty minutes. So it's now Yep. Okay. Um the new project requirements, first of all, um we didn't speak about it, but we should not um support teletext in the remote, um because our b um board uh feels that uh teletext is out of date and internet is replacing teletext. So um we are not even going to try to um implement it in our product. It's a board decision. Um the remote control should only be used for television, because it's not uh f uh feasible, it's not uh Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: w uh uh we we cannot make it because of the time to market um that we have to deal Felix Bazile: Time, Roberto Hall: with. Felix Bazile: yeah. Roberto Hall: Uh the third requirement is that we should focus on customers that are younger than uh forty, which is important for you, uh Ruud, and as well for uh Roo. Because the product should um be uh interesting and and uh should be bought by people younger than forty. Um then for Roo, as well uh important, the corporate image should be recognisable in our product. So the colour colours and the slogan um do have to be uh in the product. Felix Bazile: Yes. Roberto Hall: Is that clear? Any questions on these requirements? No? Okay. Um the individual presentations, I th um Roo or Sebastian, who of you would like to start? Felix Bazile: Yeah, I'll start Roberto Hall: Uh uh Michael Riley: Yes. Roberto Hall: yeah. Okay, great. Felix Bazile: Um Oh, how can I uh Geez, and sli and show. Um Just uh press it. Uh yes. Alright. Um well w we uh we had discussed this already in the fin in the previous uh discussion. Uh the method of the remote control is just the function of remote control is basically to send messages to the television set. So that was the main uh important thing Roberto Hall: Yeah. Felix Bazile: what a remote control should do. Then I found uh two different kind of remote controls, the multi-function uh remote control with many possibilities, but um the lack of the feeling I already mentioned uh in the previous uh discussion. Roberto Hall: Mm-hmm. Felix Bazile: And the ease-of-use remote control with uh the less p possibilities but a great feeling in in touching the buttons. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Felix Bazile: Um but um yeah. My personal preferences were ease of uh the easy to use remote control, because uh the user-friendliness and uh it can be more trendy in in user design. But um your new goal f was for uh people than less than forty years old. Roberto Hall: Uh-huh. Felix Bazile: So maybe um the multi-function can be implemented in uh in our design. But it should b I think it should be a combination, but teletext buttons are not uh in our design. So it should uh take out, well, eight buttons or so. But my in my opinion, the the easy to use R_C_ is uh the best uh possi possibility for us. Roberto Hall: Okay. Uh Ruud, did you get that? Fred Larue: Yeah, Felix Bazile: Yeah. Fred Larue: uh b uh most. Roberto Hall: Okay, so the important thing here is Felix Bazile: And it's also Fred Larue: Oh, Felix Bazile: i Fred Larue: user-friendly. Felix Bazile: indeed uh uh Ruud's uh insight in the in the topic. Roberto Hall: In the market, Felix Bazile: Yeah, Roberto Hall: yeah. Felix Bazile: what what does the market want? I I don't know. Roberto Hall: Yeah, okay, w we Felix Bazile: Just Roberto Hall: will s Felix Bazile: for uh Roberto Hall: we all Felix Bazile: for Roberto Hall: uh Felix Bazile: user desi uh user uh friendliness I uh should choose for the the ease of use remote control. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Okay. Sebastian. Michael Riley: Okay. Michael Riley: Excuse Fred Larue. Felix Bazile: Scusi. Michael Riley: Um Okay, it's still the right thing. Okay. Um well, there are some changes in the design requirements, so there are some changes in the method also. Um basically all this device has to do is send messages to a T_V_ set. And the m most easy way to do this is by uh sending pulses of infrared light to a T_V_ set. Well, I th I tried to uh implement a picture here, but it's Felix Bazile: Energies Michael Riley: hardly readable. Felix Bazile: and uh Michael Riley: Can you see it? Roberto Hall: No, it's Michael Riley: No? Roberto Hall: not visible. Michael Riley: Well Um, there's a energy source here. And um basically there it's connected to three things. The user interface connected to a chip, which is connected to the sender, which generates messages using uh infrared light, which are sent to the receiver. That's basically the idea. And there's a little picture, just for your imagination, how a device like this should look or can look. Okay. Um what have I found. Usually these kind of things consist of a battery, infrared diode, buttons, chips, and circuit board. That's all. It's cased together, nothing more than that. It's almost every piece of equipment um every piece of uh every T_V_ set Felix Bazile: Yeah. Michael Riley: is controlled infrared. There are some exceptions, but most of all have uh infrared controls. And uh the more luxury uh remote controls have lithium buttons. And I think that's Felix Bazile: The glow Michael Riley: what Felix Bazile: in Michael Riley: we Felix Bazile: the dark Michael Riley: w Felix Bazile: uh concept Michael Riley: yes. Felix Bazile: uh Michael Riley: In the and it's Felix Bazile: we discussed. Michael Riley: a little more a little bit more fancy also. So maybe we should Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: consider that. Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: Okay. I have a basic scheme of the things uh which are implemented. Um basically this is all there is. There's just one chip. There are a few buttons connected. Uh the buttons are lit. And the whole thing is transmitted by a infrared li diode, and there is not a power source here. So that's basically the total design of this piece of equipment. There's nothing Roberto Hall: So it's Michael Riley: more Roberto Hall: fairly Michael Riley: to it. Roberto Hall: easy. Michael Riley: It's fairly easy. It's been done many times before, and Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: I think we should uh Felix Bazile: Succeed Michael Riley: we should Felix Bazile: in it Michael Riley: c s Felix Bazile: also. Michael Riley: succeed in in our plan to do this. Roberto Hall: Okay, Michael Riley: So Roberto Hall: good. Michael Riley: Okay, so uh personally I think we should infra use infrared, because uh otherwise our device cannot uh communicate with uh almost every T_V_ set. So I think that uh should be clear. Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: Uh another important point is uh we really should use uh energy uh sparse, friendly components. Uh there are specially uh designed um energy-friendly components which consume uh far less power than uh conventional components. And um if we want to use uh a rechargeable design or uh a energy-save design, we should really implement them. Um for cost-effectiveness, we should really use a very low-cost uh circuit board, um because most of the production cost are are in this uh part of the equipment. Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: And um the money we save on using this we can use uh for elaborate fancy lighting uh techniques, blinking LEDs and all that kind of fancy stuff. I think our uh users will really uh will really like that. Felix Bazile: And what's the um if we use the LEDs, i does it use much more energy or Michael Riley: No, they're p f uh power friendly LEDs also. Felix Bazile: Okay. Michael Riley: So we can use them. So that's no problem. Felix Bazile: For the same costs, Michael Riley: Uh Felix Bazile: it's can Michael Riley: no, Felix Bazile: be Michael Riley: they're Felix Bazile: uh in Michael Riley: uh Felix Bazile: our Michael Riley: they're a little bit more expensive, but by uh um um Felix Bazile: Combined Michael Riley: making Felix Bazile: with the low-cost circuit board so it's Michael Riley: We can Felix Bazile: uh Michael Riley: we can make its I think. Fred Larue: Well you could only lit uh the buttons the buttons that are used most. So, the channel switching. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Fred Larue: Or Roberto Hall: Yeah, but Michael Riley: Okay. Roberto Hall: but the question is whether um two or four buttons makes uh m makes Felix Bazile: But I Roberto Hall: such Felix Bazile: think Roberto Hall: a difference in the costs if you already plan to uh include fancy lightning techniques, Michael Riley: Hmm. Roberto Hall: I guess. Fred Larue: Hmm, Felix Bazile: Yeah, I Fred Larue: true. Felix Bazile: think it's the same as in the cell phone, just light in in the device that that shines on all the buttons, and Michael Riley: Yes. Felix Bazile: not for Michael Riley: Well, it's not one light, it there are more lights in a in a in a Felix Bazile: Yeah, but Michael Riley: mobile Felix Bazile: not for Michael Riley: device. Felix Bazile: each button Michael Riley: No Felix Bazile: one Michael Riley: no no, Felix Bazile: LED, I think. Michael Riley: no. That's right, that's right. Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: So well, this uh should be it. Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: Um have a think about it. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Okay, Fred Larue: Oh, Roberto Hall: Ruud. Fred Larue: mine is already outdated. Roberto Hall: Okay well, we ar we Fred Larue: Since Roberto Hall: are Fred Larue: uh Roberto Hall: very curio curious to what the market um will feel about such a product. So any income is welcome. Input. Fred Larue: Okay, make Well Uh then I'm sure the target market is uh ten million units. Felix Bazile: Could Roberto Hall: Okay. Felix Bazile: you step a little bit more to the right? Yeah, Fred Larue: But um Felix Bazile: thank you. Fred Larue: since uh the other part is uh forty percent of the market, I uh thought earlier we might want to constrain that portion of the market. But uh since uh the requirements changed, that's uh not a good idea. Uh well, skip this. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Fred Larue: Well, it's this till true, of course. That they only use ten percent the buttons. The buttons to zap are used the about uh fifteen hundred times, when uh the power button is only used one time. And the volume button's only four times. So they're obv obviously uh the most important buttons. And uh lots of people complained they kin can't find their remote control. Michael Riley: Mm. Fred Larue: So we might want to build in a feature to uh support them. Some uh audio signal. Like Roberto Hall: Okay. Fred Larue: uh home phones. Or Roberto Hall: Well, that's Michael Riley: Or Roberto Hall: interesting. Michael Riley: a find a finding Felix Bazile: Yeah. Michael Riley: function, Roberto Hall: Yeah, Michael Riley: you know. That's Roberto Hall: that's Michael Riley: quite Roberto Hall: definitely Michael Riley: a Roberto Hall: interesting. Michael Riley: yes. Roberto Hall: It uh Felix Bazile: Sound Roberto Hall: it separates Felix Bazile: signal. Roberto Hall: our product from others uh Fred Larue: Yeah. Roberto Hall: as well. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: Okay, Michael Riley: Yes. Roberto Hall: go on. Fred Larue: Well, I just said that. And uh well, this obvious, and he also said it. Roberto Hall: Okay. So that's what the market tells us. Fred Larue: Uh that's about it, Roberto Hall: Yep. Fred Larue: yes. Roberto Hall: Okay. Felix Bazile: The volume and uh the zap buttons are the mostly used. Fred Larue: Uh mo uh zap Felix Bazile: So Fred Larue: buttons most. Volume, they are uh use a lot. But Felix Bazile: Yeah, Fred Larue: more than Felix Bazile: well Fred Larue: all Felix Bazile: it Fred Larue: the Felix Bazile: should Fred Larue: other buttons. Felix Bazile: just Fred Larue: So Felix Bazile: have a design The perfect design for those only those buttons. Michael Riley: Yes. Felix Bazile: And first um Michael Riley: Yes, we should focus on that, I guess. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: Yep. Michael Riley: Well, the technical uh there I think there are no technical difficulties. There's no um elaborate technique uh used in this uh kind of equipment. So um I don't think we have any hiccups there. So we can fully concentrate on developing a product that is really um what the market needs. So maybe it's a good idea to think about these buttons and and Felix Bazile: Yeah, Michael Riley: uh Felix Bazile: the sound signal. Michael Riley: and a sound Felix Bazile: Just one Michael Riley: signal. Felix Bazile: thing I'm just wondering, the sound signal, from where do you Fred Larue: Yeah, that's Felix Bazile: execute Michael Riley: Well Fred Larue: uh Felix Bazile: th the s sound? Michael Riley: Yes. Th Fred Larue: a problem. Michael Riley: that's Felix Bazile: Another Michael Riley: a bit of Felix Bazile: device Fred Larue: Yeah. Felix Bazile: is not a Michael Riley: that's Felix Bazile: solution. Michael Riley: a problem. Roberto Hall: Well maybe Michael Riley: Usually Felix Bazile: It should be Roberto Hall: maybe Felix Bazile: uh uh Roberto Hall: like clapping in your hands, like um Michael Riley: Oh Roberto Hall: turning Michael Riley: yes. Roberto Hall: on and off the the the Felix Bazile: Yeah, Roberto Hall: lights. Felix Bazile: but maybe Michael Riley: Yes. Felix Bazile: you'll uh get Michael Riley: Well, Felix Bazile: some Michael Riley: there Felix Bazile: new Michael Riley: there Felix Bazile: technologies Michael Riley: are some devices Felix Bazile: for it. Michael Riley: who uh incorporate this technique already. Um there are video sets and um they have a special button, the find the remote control button. You press it and your T_V_ set starts to make a uh kind of weird sound, and your uh remote controls then start Roberto Hall: Reports Michael Riley: to beep. Roberto Hall: rep Michael Riley: And Roberto Hall: respend Michael Riley: um Roberto Hall: response Felix Bazile: Yeah, just Roberto Hall: to it. Felix Bazile: like uh Michael Riley: Yes. Yes, that's it. Felix Bazile: the phones the Michael Riley: Yes, Fred Larue: Yeah. Michael Riley: same thing. Roberto Hall: But Felix Bazile: But but Roberto Hall: uh Felix Bazile: T_V_s Roberto Hall: th Felix Bazile: don't have all uh Michael Riley: No, so we Felix Bazile: uh buttons. Michael Riley: we Fred Larue: And Michael Riley: should Fred Larue: you Michael Riley: use Felix Bazile: Uh Michael Riley: something else. Fred Larue: Yeah, Roberto Hall: Yeah, Fred Larue: and usually Roberto Hall: because Felix Bazile: But I believe Roberto Hall: we do not Felix Bazile: you will Roberto Hall: have a Felix Bazile: have Roberto Hall: a Felix Bazile: an Roberto Hall: a a a home um Michael Riley: We do not control the T_V_ set so Fred Larue: And Michael Riley: well. Fred Larue: even if the T_V_ set would have such a button, uh you would have to walk Michael Riley: Yes, Fred Larue: to your T_V_, Michael Riley: m yes. S Fred Larue: and it's Michael Riley: so it's is easy as possible for our customers, Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: so Roberto Hall: So Michael Riley: we should Roberto Hall: what Michael Riley: think Roberto Hall: about the Michael Riley: about Roberto Hall: clapping technique? Um because Felix Bazile: I'm Roberto Hall: you se Felix Bazile: convinced uh Sebastian will uh find Michael Riley: It's quite Felix Bazile: uh one Michael Riley: complicated. Felix Bazile: solution for Michael Riley: Well, Felix Bazile: us. Michael Riley: it's quite complicated. Because how can you separate the clapping sound from other sounds. Fred Larue: And Roberto Hall: Well, you Fred Larue: b Roberto Hall: see it a lot in in light uh lightning Michael Riley: Yes, yes. Roberto Hall: uh uh Michael Riley: Well, basically the characteristics uh the characteristics of clapping is just an increase in the volume, Roberto Hall: Yeah, a Michael Riley: the amplitude Roberto Hall: peak. Yeah. Michael Riley: of the sound, which is uh generated a few times within a uh certain period of time. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: But there are many other sounds uh which are exactly the same from Fred Larue: So Michael Riley: the Fred Larue: if Michael Riley: point of Fred Larue: if Michael Riley: view Fred Larue: you'd Michael Riley: from Fred Larue: be Michael Riley: a remote Fred Larue: watching Michael Riley: control. Fred Larue: a movie, it would constantly beep. Roberto Hall: Yeah, Michael Riley: Yes, Roberto Hall: that's true. Michael Riley: so we don't Felix Bazile: But we Michael Riley: want Felix Bazile: can Michael Riley: that. Felix Bazile: have just uh uh Michael Riley: Maybe we Felix Bazile: a Michael Riley: can Felix Bazile: home stat uh f a base station next to the T_V_. Just a little antenna or uh something. Michael Riley: Something like that. Felix Bazile: Well Michael Riley: Well, Felix Bazile: if you lost Michael Riley: is there Roberto Hall: Well Michael Riley: not Roberto Hall: uh Felix Bazile: th Michael Riley: something f Felix Bazile: I Michael Riley: something Felix Bazile: don't think Michael Riley: more Felix Bazile: people Michael Riley: easily Felix Bazile: would bother walking to the T_V_ and press that button Michael Riley: Well, I don't think uh. Felix Bazile: because they lost the their remote. Uh that's Michael Riley: No, and Felix Bazile: just Michael Riley: y Felix Bazile: uh Michael Riley: the the most important thing for people is that there's a central point to which they can go Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: and uh b uh perform a a some kind of uh. And then uh the remote control uh reports itself, so w we should use have uh we should use something like that. You do not want another device, which can be uh everywhere in the house, which you have to find first before you can find your remote control. Felix Bazile: just a base station next to the T_V_ Michael Riley: Yes, Felix Bazile: is Michael Riley: something like that. Felix Bazile: the best Michael Riley: But that will be very Felix Bazile: possibility. Michael Riley: costly, I think. So Roberto Hall: Yeah, m Michael Riley: that's Fred Larue: Yeah. Roberto Hall: maybe Michael Riley: not a good idea. Roberto Hall: um w we uh we do agree on on the thing that the remote should have such a function, if it's possible within the costs and all that kind of things. Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: Um maybe Sebastian should have uh a detailed look later Michael Riley: I will. Roberto Hall: on and um come up with a solution, Felix Bazile: Yeah. Michael Riley: Yes. Roberto Hall: because that's his his field of expertise. Michael Riley: Yes. But um before I do that I w I want to warn you that uh by implementing this kind of a function the technical design will become more complicated Roberto Hall: Mm-hmm. Michael Riley: um and it will become more costly also. Roberto Hall: Yep. Michael Riley: Because there will be additional components which which uh will be used. And there are some Felix Bazile: And Michael Riley: implepe Felix Bazile: do we even Michael Riley: imp Felix Bazile: uh prefer the sound above the the LEDs, the lightning Michael Riley: Well, Felix Bazile: uh Michael Riley: I I think Felix Bazile: function? Michael Riley: so, because um when you have a p newspaper Felix Bazile: It's Michael Riley: over Felix Bazile: a unique Michael Riley: your remote control, Felix Bazile: item uh Michael Riley: you cannot see it. So Roberto Hall: Yeah, it's a distinction Felix Bazile: It will be an Roberto Hall: in Felix Bazile: a Roberto Hall: the market. Felix Bazile: unique feature Roberto Hall: It's a different Felix Bazile: of Fred Larue: Yeah. Felix Bazile: our Roberto Hall: exactly. Felix Bazile: remote control. Roberto Hall: It's an uni an unique feature, Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: and um I think um it's worth um uh looking and and probably more i interesting than uh than the lights. Felix Bazile: And just about uh the user interface, I came up with um an easy remote control and an advanced remote control. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Felix Bazile: What should we choose in in design? Roberto Hall: Yeah. Well, um according to Ruud, um people do not use um Felix Bazile: Well, the extra functions. Roberto Hall: all the extra features very very often. So Fred Larue: I have the numbers r I have the numbers right here. Roberto Hall: Okay. Fred Larue: Well, t uh we won't support teletext which which was the third-most Felix Bazile: Used Fred Larue: the second-most Felix Bazile: option. Fred Larue: used function. Roberto Hall: Okay. Well, Michael Riley: Okay. Roberto Hall: we we do have a wise board, so I'm not questioning that. Fred Larue: Uh well yeah, channel selection is obviously the most important. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Okay, so on Fred Larue: So Roberto Hall: the relevance scale uh the channel selection, the volume selection and the teletext. Fred Larue: Yeah. Roberto Hall: Well, we skip Fred Larue: Yeah. Roberto Hall: that. Fred Larue: So Felix Bazile: Well, Roberto Hall: Okay. Felix Bazile: so it just th the basic functions. And we don't have to use it for D_V_D_ players uh and all kind Michael Riley: No, Felix Bazile: of stuff. Roberto Hall: No. Felix Bazile: So Michael Riley: no. Fred Larue: Nope. Michael Riley: So that's out of the question. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: So Felix Bazile: Just through uh the easy uh design. Roberto Hall: go Felix Bazile: We Roberto Hall: for Felix Bazile: can Roberto Hall: the Felix Bazile: make Roberto Hall: easier Felix Bazile: uh Roberto Hall: one. Felix Bazile: a nice design Michael Riley: I Felix Bazile: when Michael Riley: think also. Felix Bazile: when there's not mu uh much Michael Riley: Yes. Felix Bazile: buttons in it. So Michael Riley: Well, we Roberto Hall: No. Michael Riley: should save costs uh by not implementing a lot of functions and uh the money that we can save from that we should use for uh having a nice design and Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: uh thinking about the user interface and Roberto Hall: Okay, Ruud, how do you feel about that? Uh do you agree, do you think the market would would respond to uh a simple Fred Larue: Uh well if we um include other uh innovative functions Roberto Hall: Mm-hmm. Fred Larue: uh then they uh might, 'cause young people uh like new features. Roberto Hall: Mm Fred Larue: So Roberto Hall: yeah. Michael Riley: Yeah, that's right. Roberto Hall: Okay, Michael Riley: Mm. Roberto Hall: so this is is kind of uh Felix Bazile: Uh just a few buttons, trendy design, nice lightning effects Michael Riley: Okay. Felix Bazile: wh and Michael Riley: Well, Felix Bazile: the Michael Riley: is Felix Bazile: sound. Michael Riley: it maybe there's another possibility. You can make it look like an easy s piece of equipment, but it's quite elaborated, uh because it has many functions. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: Maybe it's more important to make the make it look like a very uh friendly, easy to catch piece of equipment, but um Roberto Hall: But but Michael Riley: nevertheless Roberto Hall: are we not in in the in the manual uh I mean if you have few buttons, no Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: display, Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: um I mean uh I guess it's l it's working with with a shift functions and um one button can Michael Riley: Ok Roberto Hall: uh Michael Riley: like that. Well, I was more thinking about a more elaborate way of controlling, by by these kinds of sticks or something like that. I don't know if if it's user-friendly. That's your field of expertise. Felix Bazile: Yeah, Roberto Hall: But Felix Bazile: I don't Roberto Hall: but how Felix Bazile: know Roberto Hall: does Felix Bazile: yet. Roberto Hall: how does the remote uh report uh r uh give back to the user w in what state it is? Because we do not implement Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: uh a Michael Riley: There's Roberto Hall: user Michael Riley: no, Roberto Hall: history. Michael Riley: but there's no way to do that, because we cannot implement that kind of the system. Roberto Hall: I know, Michael Riley: W Roberto Hall: but but if we use uh like a stick, for example, Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: um Michael Riley: Well, maybe we can use a light for that. When you move the stick to a to a position, maybe uh a light next to it can lit up. So you know I've just uh pushed the button, or I changed the channel or t uh turned up the volume. Something like that. Fred Larue: And if you use that stick for volume control and channel uh selection, you have the m two most important functions Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: Yes. Roberto Hall: Uh Fred Larue: in one uh Roberto Hall: and Fred Larue: button. Roberto Hall: we could Felix Bazile: But Roberto Hall: have Felix Bazile: does Roberto Hall: other Felix Bazile: it Roberto Hall: buttons Felix Bazile: uh Roberto Hall: for Felix Bazile: I Roberto Hall: the Felix Bazile: then Roberto Hall: for the Felix Bazile: should Roberto Hall: advanced Felix Bazile: n just Roberto Hall: uh Felix Bazile: use Roberto Hall: functions. Felix Bazile: uh i instead of the stick, uh like many cell phones, just a round m well, should we Roberto Hall: Yeah, Felix Bazile: just Roberto Hall: draw Felix Bazile: use Roberto Hall: draw it Felix Bazile: a Roberto Hall: on the board. Felix Bazile: oh, we have a blank. Oh. Michael Riley: Oh yeah, something like that. It's Felix Bazile: It's Michael Riley: not Felix Bazile: just Michael Riley: really a Felix Bazile: an Michael Riley: stick, Felix Bazile: easy Michael Riley: but Felix Bazile: uh way of of a round button what which can be pushed in Michael Riley: Yes. Felix Bazile: four directions. Michael Riley: Yes. Felix Bazile: Instead of a stick. A stick is v vulnerab vulnerable Michael Riley: Hmm. Roberto Hall: Yeah, Felix Bazile: when Roberto Hall: it Felix Bazile: it's Roberto Hall: can Felix Bazile: falling Roberto Hall: break down. Felix Bazile: down or uh Michael Riley: Yes, Fred Larue: Yeah. Michael Riley: yes. Felix Bazile: just a round uh button Michael Riley: And Felix Bazile: should be the trick, I think. Michael Riley: Yes, and this also looks more fancy, I think. I think Felix Bazile: Yeah. Michael Riley: it it will attract uh more Fred Larue: A Michael Riley: uh uh Fred Larue: younger Michael Riley: public, Fred Larue: uh Michael Riley: I think. Fred Larue: Huh. Michael Riley: But you're the marketing man. Fred Larue: And it's also quite easy to use, so it'll it uh attract younger people because well new, and it might attract older people because it's easy to use. Felix Bazile: Geez. Well, volume and something uh like that. Roberto Hall: Uh-huh. Felix Bazile: The programme up and down. Roberto Hall: Okay, yeah. Felix Bazile: And the vol yeah, the pen doesn't uh really does what I want. Michael Riley: Okay, that's good. Roberto Hall: Okay, but w we still we're still in the question of uh um uh putting in advanced options. Um Ruud just told us um the market is interested in some advanced uh new techniques. Um however, uh keeping it simple is is important for the costs and all all those kind of things. We need to find a balance between Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: uh the advanced techniques and and the user-friendliness. Felix Bazile: But I think our our next step to look at is just that. So I don't think it's um we have something to do. Uh we can't discuss it right now, because n no one of us have has the information to discuss about that, Roberto Hall: Um well, Felix Bazile: I think. Roberto Hall: for we do have to uh decide this this meeting. Felix Bazile: Yes? Roberto Hall: Yeah. We need to um have the uh the user function uh the functions Felix Bazile: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: decided and um Michael Riley: Okay. Roberto Hall: uh our target audience. Felix Bazile: 'Kay, Michael Riley: Okay. Felix Bazile: but teletext is so uh is just Michael Riley: Do Felix Bazile: scrapped. Michael Riley: do you want a list of functions? Do you want an explicit list? Uh which uh incorporates all function available on the device? Roberto Hall: Um well, I do not want a full uh it's not necessary to to have a full list, but I want um the kind of functions, for Michael Riley: Okay. Roberto Hall: example Michael Riley: Okay. Roberto Hall: uh th the most important are volume and uh programme selecting. Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Felix Bazile: The ten digits. Roberto Hall: Well, for example, that that's what we should think about. l how is the remote going to look? Felix Bazile: Oh, Roberto Hall: Not not in the user Felix Bazile: and just Roberto Hall: interface, Felix Bazile: one function. Roberto Hall: but Felix Bazile: The the the the programme to programme button, the switch to uh two channels, Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Felix Bazile: when you have uh something on channel Michael Riley: Yes. Felix Bazile: four and something on channel six, Roberto Hall: Yeah. Felix Bazile: just one button which which can uh Roberto Hall: A Michael Riley: Change. Roberto Hall: bit of a split Felix Bazile: change Roberto Hall: mode. Uh l like Felix Bazile: yeah. Michael Riley: Yes, yes. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Dual channel watch. Michael Riley: Yes. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: Okay, well um m maybe I should write that down. Michael Riley: Well you're the secretary. Roberto Hall: Uh Ruud, um what's your last name? Fred Larue: Mielsen. Roberto Hall: Mielsen, because I I was writing it down in the last uh Mielsen. Right. Um I put all the minutes I make into the shared folder. So if you want to have a look at it, you know where to find Michael Riley: Mm Roberto Hall: it. Michael Riley: okay, Felix Bazile: Alright. Michael Riley: but Roberto Hall: Um Michael Riley: make a s make a sub-folder for it, because it's starting to fill up already. Roberto Hall: Yeah, that's Fred Larue: Yeah. Roberto Hall: that's if you want to do it, Sebastian. Michael Riley: Sure. Felix Bazile: Our B_S_C_ uh W_ uh Roberto Hall: Okay, um Okay, so so um uh Volume. Programme. Uh dual channel. Uh Michael Riley: Yes, that's important. Roberto Hall: And and do we want um Felix Bazile: The Roberto Hall: the Felix Bazile: ten Roberto Hall: ten Felix Bazile: digits? Roberto Hall: digits? Felix Bazile: Yeah, Michael Riley: Well, Felix Bazile: I believe so. Michael Riley: are are you sure? Fred Larue: Well, if you want to go Michael Riley: I'm Fred Larue: to Michael Riley: not so Fred Larue: channel Michael Riley: sure. Fred Larue: ninety and you have th that button. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Michael Riley: Well, that's complicated, Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: but is that so relevant? Because I don't think but you should uh shou Felix Bazile: I wouldn't Michael Riley: you should know Felix Bazile: buy Michael Riley: that. Felix Bazile: it personally. Michael Riley: If it Felix Bazile: A remote Michael Riley: were so. Felix Bazile: control without the ten digits. Michael Riley: Okay, I can Felix Bazile: Uh Michael Riley: imagine Felix Bazile: and I think Michael Riley: when Felix Bazile: the Roberto Hall: I Felix Bazile: most Roberto Hall: agree actually. Michael Riley: I can Felix Bazile: Just Michael Riley: imagine Felix Bazile: elder Michael Riley: when Felix Bazile: elder Michael Riley: you're when Felix Bazile: people Michael Riley: you Fred Larue: Well Michael Riley: have a Felix Bazile: would Michael Riley: satellite Felix Bazile: would buy Michael Riley: decoder Felix Bazile: it, but Michael Riley: and and you have, well, about six hundred channels, I can imagine you want this. But if you're uh a regular T_V_ user, and you just want uh to watch the the Dutch television networks, well, you can uh you can use uh about ten buttons. Roberto Hall: But Michael Riley: That's enough. Roberto Hall: we do Fred Larue: But Roberto Hall: have Felix Bazile: Yep. Roberto Hall: thirteen different Dutch channels. Fred Larue: Yeah, Felix Bazile: The older Fred Larue: and Michael Riley: Well, Felix Bazile: people Fred Larue: if Michael Riley: but Felix Bazile: only Michael Riley: how Fred Larue: if Felix Bazile: use Fred Larue: we Michael Riley: how Felix Bazile: five Michael Riley: often Felix Bazile: of them. Michael Riley: do you watch Fred Larue: And if Michael Riley: all Fred Larue: we are Michael Riley: these channels? Fred Larue: targeting Roberto Hall: Often. Fred Larue: at the younger audience, they will probably watch more channels than the older people. So Michael Riley: No, you're probably right. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Michael Riley: Okay. But I think these uh ten uh buttons look a bit dull. Don't you think? Roberto Hall: Well, it depends on the on the on the Michael Riley: The Roberto Hall: looks, Michael Riley: design. Roberto Hall: on the Felix Bazile: On Roberto Hall: on Felix Bazile: the design. Roberto Hall: the Michael Riley: Okay. Well, y then there should be Fred Larue: Well Michael Riley: should done be done Roberto Hall: You Michael Riley: something specific Roberto Hall: c Fred Larue: And Michael Riley: with Roberto Hall: you Michael Riley: it. Roberto Hall: can d make them very fancy by um I mean Nokia, they have ten digits on their phones Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: and it still looks very fancy. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: So I'm I'm I do not agree Uh Michael Riley: Okay, so you can experiment by uh with with shape or with size or with colour, that Roberto Hall: Exactly, Michael Riley: kind of thing. Roberto Hall: exactly. Michael Riley: Okay. Fred Larue: And um there are some numbers about uh speech recognition here that uh younger people would like it. Uh it might be expensive and uh hard to implement, but it would be a solution uh Roberto Hall: Okay, Fred Larue: for Roberto Hall: speech. Michael Riley: Well, maybe it can be combined with the find the remote control. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Michael Riley: So um when you add uh speech recognition to your remote control, uh it's very easy to change uh the channel. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: That's one thing. And it's very easy uh Roberto Hall: To Michael Riley: to Roberto Hall: find Michael Riley: find your remote control. Roberto Hall: yeah. Michael Riley: So maybe that's a possibility, but I'm afraid it will be a bit costly. Fred Larue: Yeah. Michael Riley: But Roberto Hall: Uh Michael Riley: maybe when we uh Roberto Hall: If if we would um drop the ten digits Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Roberto Hall: but keep the programme and the volume, because maybe Michael Riley: Okay. Roberto Hall: people do not always want to use their voice, Michael Riley: Okay, okay. Roberto Hall: um Fred Larue: Especially elder people uh don't like voice recognition. So then we should implement such a but Roberto Hall: Yeah. But we do focus on younger people. We d Michael Riley: Okay. Fred Larue: Yes. Roberto Hall: it it's a board Michael Riley: Well. Roberto Hall: uh decision. Michael Riley: I I think it should uh should work, it sh we should manage that. Felix Bazile: So we have to i Roberto Hall: Okay. Felix Bazile: to make um a decision between the ten digits or the voice recognition. Michael Riley: Yes. Well, the voice recognition has the main adva has another advantage. It's mas it makes it very easy for us to implement the find uh find the remote control button uh remote control Felix Bazile: Mm-hmm. Michael Riley: function. So Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: that's that's a big advantage, I think. Roberto Hall: Okay, g good. Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: There's only one disadvantage uh by implementing this. Um the power saving power saving will be a bit more difficult. So we can expect that there will be a less longer life to the batteries. Roberto Hall: Mm. Michael Riley: But maybe can we we can think something smart about it. Roberto Hall: Yep. Michael Riley: There are some uh hybrid hybrid devices which incorporate a solar panel and rechargeable batteries. Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: So when you just Roberto Hall: But Michael Riley: leave the device in a in a light room, it charges itself. You have Roberto Hall: But Michael Riley: to do nothing Roberto Hall: but can Michael Riley: for Roberto Hall: we Michael Riley: it. Roberto Hall: manage it Fred Larue: M Roberto Hall: bu uh for the costs? Because it seems Felix Bazile: Twelve Roberto Hall: like Felix Bazile: dollar Roberto Hall: a very Felix Bazile: fifty. Fred Larue: And uh if Michael Riley: Maybe, Fred Larue: we Michael Riley: maybe not. Fred Larue: if Michael Riley: I'll Fred Larue: we Michael Riley: have to Fred Larue: could Michael Riley: find that Fred Larue: inc Michael Riley: out. Fred Larue: uh include a c a cradle in which it could recharge, Michael Riley: Yes. Fred Larue: then Michael Riley: So Fred Larue: there wouldn't be uh a big problem. Michael Riley: No, that's Fred Larue: 'Cause Michael Riley: very Fred Larue: when Michael Riley: cheap. Roberto Hall: Is Michael Riley: It's Roberto Hall: a cradle very cheap? Michael Riley: Oh, it's very cheap. That's no problem. It's just a a case with two uh metal contacts. Roberto Hall: I know, Michael Riley: It's Roberto Hall: b uh but there should be an adapter as well. Michael Riley: Yes, but they're they're Fred Larue: Yeah. Michael Riley: mass production. They're very cheap. So Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: it will cost us p practically nothing. Roberto Hall: Okay. We we have uh about ten minutes left this meeting. Um I would like to hear um maybe maybe you all have th uh things not um spoken about, yeah, but that are important. Uh Ruud, you you came up with the voice recognition uh data. Uh are there other things about the market we should know? Fred Larue: Um I think we dealt with the most important information. Just that the younger part of uh the market isn't the forty percent we uh want to sell to. So we we should uh for least a bit uh look at the uh older people. But with Roberto Hall: Okay. Fred Larue: uh buttons like that, which are easy to use, we uh might attract them too. So Roberto Hall: Okay. Fred Larue: I don't think that's a big problem Michael Riley: Yeah. Roberto Hall: Okay, so although we are focussing on younger people uh to make it uh profitable uh Fred Larue: Yes. Michael Riley: Profitable. Fred Larue: Yeah, profitable. Roberto Hall: Profitable. We we yeah, we still need to take in account the the bit older people. Fred Larue: Yes. Roberto Hall: Okay. O okay. Um Roo. Felix Bazile: I have nothing uh nothing to add, Roberto Hall: Nothing to Felix Bazile: I think. Roberto Hall: add. Sebastian? Michael Riley: Um I just want to make a summary of all all things Roberto Hall: Yeah? Michael Riley: uh spoken and uh Roberto Hall: Great. Michael Riley: the different possibilities. Um so uh basically we've decided to implement a seemingly uh easy design. So on the outside it looks easy, but uh we can make it easy on the inside or elaborate on the inside. So that's one the those are the choices we have to make. But I think there's a big advantage in making it more elaborate by uh implementing uh speech techniques, uh Roberto Hall: Mm-hmm. Michael Riley: voice recognition, that these kinds of things. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: Um it makes it also more uh attractable, I think, to our uh audience. Um there are some advantages and some disadvantages, and the main advantage is that we can implement uh fancy techniques, which uh I think our customers will like. The disadvantage is that there are some concerns about uh the the costs and um the things like uh battery lifetime, energy saving. Roberto Hall: Yep. Michael Riley: Uh another advantage is that the circuit board will become much more easier if we do not do not implement these buttons. If we just add uh uh a chip which does the voice recognition, uh our circuit board will become even more cheap. So Roberto Hall: Yeah, and that was Michael Riley: that's another Roberto Hall: the main issue, right? The Michael Riley: well, it Roberto Hall: the Michael Riley: wa Roberto Hall: board Michael Riley: it w it was an issue, but we also thought that we already thought we should do it as cheaply as possible. Roberto Hall: Yeah. Michael Riley: And this even uh makes it more cheapy. So Felix Bazile: But the cheaper the ch uh the the chip or th Michael Riley: Mm-hmm. Felix Bazile: what was Roberto Hall: The Felix Bazile: it? Roberto Hall: board. Felix Bazile: The Michael Riley: The Felix Bazile: circuit Michael Riley: circuit Felix Bazile: board. Michael Riley: board. Felix Bazile: The fewer buttons you can use Michael Riley: The Roberto Hall: No, Michael Riley: fewer Felix Bazile: on Roberto Hall: it's Felix Bazile: it. Roberto Hall: th Michael Riley: buttons you have, Roberto Hall: yeah. Michael Riley: the ch ch the cheaper Felix Bazile: Yeah, Michael Riley: the circuit Felix Bazile: okay. Michael Riley: board, Roberto Hall: It's the other way around, Michael Riley: yes. Roberto Hall: yeah. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Michael Riley: And it's very cheap uh to incorporate uh uh an integrated circuit, a chip. So that's that's another Roberto Hall: It shouldn't be Michael Riley: advantage. Roberto Hall: a big issue. Felix Bazile: Well it then Michael Riley: So Felix Bazile: we should just uh take a look at the costs and Michael Riley: Yes, Felix Bazile: uh Michael Riley: because I don't Felix Bazile: especially Michael Riley: know Felix Bazile: for the voice recognition. Michael Riley: Yes. I d I really don't know. So Felix Bazile: No. Michael Riley: It Roberto Hall: Okay. Michael Riley: can be costly. Maybe not. Roberto Hall: I'm not sure how how we'll f uh determine the costs, I will have a look at it. Maybe you will Michael Riley: Yes. Roberto Hall: get some information on that. Um Michael Riley: Yes, Roberto Hall: I'm Michael Riley: I Roberto Hall: not Michael Riley: al Roberto Hall: sure how how Michael Riley: I Roberto Hall: that Michael Riley: I hope my personal coach will uh Roberto Hall: Yep. Michael Riley: have a lo uh look at it. Roberto Hall: Okay, great. Um well, I Felix Bazile: We're Roberto Hall: think Felix Bazile: done, Roberto Hall: we're Felix Bazile: I think. Roberto Hall: qui quite done. Um for now we will have the lunch break. Michael Riley: How nice. Roberto Hall: Um I'm don't know how long the break will be, but we'll find Felix Bazile: Fred Larue Roberto Hall: out. Felix Bazile: neither. Roberto Hall: Um then we will have thirty minutes of time to perform our individual work, uh and I'm sure your personal coaches will uh assist you with it. Um I will put the minutes I just made in the project documents folder. If you want to look at it um well, just do. Um the Interface Designer, um I would like to the next meeting I would like to receive the uh components concept. Uh Roo, um from you I would Felix Bazile: Interface Roberto Hall: like to Felix Bazile: industrial. Roberto Hall: see Uh I'm sorry, yeah, Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: I'm sorry. User Michael Riley: Well, Roberto Hall: Interface Michael Riley: we understand. Roberto Hall: Designer, uh Roo, I would like to see the user interface c uh concept. And um Felix Bazile: Uh the only problem is it that it depends on the divisions the decis uh decisions Sebastian makes. Michael Riley: Well Felix Bazile: About the voice Roberto Hall: Well, Felix Bazile: recognition. Roberto Hall: i it should Felix Bazile: Well Roberto Hall: be easy, that's w w what we concluded. It should Michael Riley: Mm yes. Roberto Hall: be an easy interface with not so much buttons. Felix Bazile: Yeah. Roberto Hall: S just a a p a p a volume and a programme one. And um um yeah, some some fancy lights. I think that's what we decided. Michael Riley: So we drop the voice recognition? Roberto Hall: No Michael Riley: Or Roberto Hall: no no, Michael Riley: Oh. Roberto Hall: we didn't but it shouldn't be integrated yeah, it's of course it's user interface, but um i I was talking about really the Michael Riley: Okay. Roberto Hall: design of the Michael Riley: Well um do we really have to decide now or Roberto Hall: No. Michael Riley: can we decide next meeting? Roberto Hall: We can decide the next meeting. Michael Riley: Okay. Roberto Hall: Yep. Michael Riley: Because I'll have some updated info on that uh Roberto Hall: Yeah. I guess all of you have i updated info. I'm sure Felix Bazile: Yep. Roberto Hall: Fred Larue will receive uh t uh you will do some trend watching. And I'm sure Fred Larue: Hmm. Roberto Hall: the market will um uh uh will change, Felix Bazile: Adapt. Michael Riley: Adapt. Fred Larue: Left. Roberto Hall: adapt Fred Larue: Hmm. Roberto Hall: and um so we will see that. Um yeah, that's Felix Bazile: That's Roberto Hall: it for Felix Bazile: it. Roberto Hall: now. Felix Bazile: 'Kay. Roberto Hall: Any other questions or can we have the lunch? Michael Riley: We can have the lunch. Fred Larue: Yeah. Roberto Hall: Yeah, Felix Bazile: I'll Roberto Hall: okay. Felix Bazile: take the lunch. Roberto Hall: Good.

There are some new requirements for the project: the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, as it is dated, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. The target group will be people below 40. Felix Bazile preferred an easy-to-use remote to a multi-function one. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. The use of infrared, energy-efficient power source and cheap circuit was suggested. The remote could light up via LED's placed inside. Functions like zapping are very prevalent, as well as complaints about remotes being easy to lose. It also transpires that customers like innovative technology like speech recognition. The design can focus on such customer needs, like finding a mechanism to locate a lost remote. The functions of the remote will include a back button to switch between two channels, volume, program selection, and speech recognition, with a focus on simplicity of design.

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Willie Wells: Wait for the marketing director actually, so. Anyways. Uh. Willie Wells: See, shall we wait? I'm not sure if he's late or delayed or whatever, so I'm gonna start soon, we have now don't have much time anyway. Deshawn Powers: Oh, there he Larry Sharrow: Yes. Stephen Kovacs: Okay, Deshawn Powers: is. Willie Wells: There Stephen Kovacs: we Larry Sharrow: Sorry, Willie Wells: you are, okay. Larry Sharrow: a little bit of pl Willie Wells: Uh no Larry Sharrow: little Willie Wells: problem. We're Larry Sharrow: with Willie Wells: about Larry Sharrow: computer. Willie Wells: to start, so have a seat. Okay, welcome again. Today, functional design phase. I'll take you over the minutes of last last meeting. Okay, that was just to Larry Sharrow: Uh. Willie Wells: get to know each other have, a little thoughts on what your vision is and on this project, so I put the minutes on the I made on the on the p the the project share, so if you wanna review them, they're there. I will do so after every meeting, so if you have some information you wanna take back you can find it there. Anyways, um today three presentations, from every one of you. Um after that I got some new project requirements from project board, so we're gonna go af go after over this later. But I wanna start with uh stuff you did first, so we can see what everybody came up with. And after that we can have the new requirements and share some thoughts, so. Who would like wanna go first? Larry Sharrow: Yeah, sure, no problem. Deshawn Powers: Go ahead. Willie Wells: Take it. Larry Sharrow: Um there was a little problem with my computer so not uh the whole uh presentation uh Willie Wells: Anyway, let's see what you have. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Um Larry Sharrow: Okay, and Willie Wells: Uh it's still a bit open. Larry Sharrow: I want to open the my s oh no. Willie Wells: You should close it on your own notebook, I guess. Yeah. Larry Sharrow: Oh no, Willie Wells: So Larry Sharrow: that's Willie Wells: there? Okay. Larry Sharrow: okay. Uh slide show. Yes. The functional requirements, it's uh uh very important for uh the user, he he wants to yeah. The the method used not m a slide because it went wrong, but the method we use uh, um we tested it w uh with uh a hundred uh men, and we asked them to w uh what the remote uh f feel uh like and uh what what's uh important. Willie Wells: If I Larry Sharrow: Uh Willie Wells: can cut in, is it people or men? Larry Sharrow: People, sorry. Willie Wells: Is it people, okay. Larry Sharrow: Both Willie Wells: 'Cause I Larry Sharrow: women Willie Wells: thought it was Larry Sharrow: and Willie Wells: only Larry Sharrow: men, Willie Wells: men, so Larry Sharrow: yeah. Okay. Willie Wells: 'Kay. Larry Sharrow: Uh the findings um uh seventy five percent of the users find most remote controls ugly. Um Deshawn Powers: That's shocking Willie Wells: So we Larry Sharrow: Yeah, Willie Wells: have Deshawn Powers: uh. Willie Wells: to s we have to do something Larry Sharrow: and Willie Wells: about that. Larry Sharrow: yeah, most th th they want to spend money for a better system, for better remote control, so we can do uh a l a little uh nice things with it, and um they use yeah, they use zap a lot, um uh fifty percent say they only So that's the most important things. Willie Wells: Okay. Larry Sharrow: Um oh yeah, not all of it is it on mine on my PowerPoint presentation, Willie Wells: Okay, Larry Sharrow: but Willie Wells: just talk Larry Sharrow: um Willie Wells: ahead. Larry Sharrow: uh the relevant buttons are the power, the channel selection and the volume selection. It's Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Larry Sharrow: uh the most basic buttons that a user wants uh to use. Uh less important is tel teletext, Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Larry Sharrow: uh um they use it, but it's not uh very uh important uh on the scale of zero to ten they six and a half uh Willie Wells: Okay, that's okay. Larry Sharrow: and but not important is the channel selection, the the hmm? Willie Wells: That's a little weird. Larry Sharrow: Oh, the Deshawn Powers: Which channel Larry Sharrow: the Deshawn Powers: selection? Larry Sharrow: no no no no no, that's very important, but uh w and not important in the audio settings, display settings and Willie Wells: Okay, Larry Sharrow: uh Willie Wells: we can we Deshawn Powers: Oh, Willie Wells: can Deshawn Powers: okay. Willie Wells: hide those under Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: a menu or something, okay. Larry Sharrow: Um new preferences preferences. Uh um um beep to find your control, was that Willie Wells: That's Larry Sharrow: was Willie Wells: like Larry Sharrow: in Willie Wells: a Larry Sharrow: the Willie Wells: button Larry Sharrow: test, Willie Wells: on your T_V_? Larry Sharrow: the the most people uh f find it uh irritating uh when they cannot find a rem Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Larry Sharrow: their remote Willie Wells: Remote, Larry Sharrow: control, Willie Wells: okay. Larry Sharrow: so uh I think it's a bee beep to sound it and uh you can find it. And another thing uh they want was uh speech recognition um so they can say uh what they want to let's go to channel one and uh Willie Wells: Okay. Larry Sharrow: that's uh kind of things. And they want maybe an uh L_C_D_ screen um to to look it um wh what's on every channel uh and uh what Willie Wells: We wanna Larry Sharrow: do Willie Wells: have Larry Sharrow: I want Willie Wells: a little preview Larry Sharrow: with it? Willie Wells: on the remote control. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: Preview what's on the channel. Okay. Deshawn Powers: Is that manageable? 'Cause it sounds pretty expensive too. Willie Wells: That sounds Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: too It's possible, but uh I think it's expensive, but do continue. Deshawn Powers: Okay. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Um Uh my personal preferences is uh a button for my favourite channel, so I can uh I dunno, so I can zap to my uh f uh quick uh to my favourite channel wh what I uh so, the remote mu must see or um must um see wha what mine preferences are for which Willie Wells: Okay, Larry Sharrow: channel, Willie Wells: you don't Larry Sharrow: so Willie Wells: set it yourself, Larry Sharrow: I can Willie Wells: it just Larry Sharrow: zap t Willie Wells: remembers Larry Sharrow: to Willie Wells: the channel that you are on most, for example. Larry Sharrow: What? Willie Wells: You want the you want it to be programmed, for example Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: y programmed f or Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: you want it to recognise your favourite channel? Larry Sharrow: Recognise Willie Wells: Let's see, you you spend twenty minutes each day on that channel, Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: so it recognises your favourite channel. Larry Sharrow: Yeah, that's uh what my personal preference Willie Wells: Okay, Larry Sharrow: like. Willie Wells: so it's it it does it recognise itself, you don't have to set Larry Sharrow: No, Willie Wells: it Okay. Larry Sharrow: itself. Maybe it's easier to to sell it, but Willie Wells: Okay. Larry Sharrow: I don't know it's manageable, but we Willie Wells: I see. Larry Sharrow: will uh we will see. Yeah, it's a little bit uh it's the end of it. It's Willie Wells: Okay. Larry Sharrow: a little bit Deshawn Powers: Okay. Larry Sharrow: uh I lost it, the computer uh crashed, so. Willie Wells: No problem, it's it's okay, that's Deshawn Powers: Shall I go? Willie Wells: Yeah, go Deshawn Powers: Okay. Willie Wells: ahead. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: So, some technical Larry Sharrow: Darn Deshawn Powers: functions. Larry Sharrow: computer. Deshawn Powers: Basically I have some issues which you discussed earlier. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: Uh let's just start with the method. It sounds really easy, what does the user do, what does the th remote control do, but there are quite some issues. So the things I'm going to concentrate on are the user aspect, because the technical aspect, that's pretty much covered. We can do that. What goes wrong at the user. Gets the remote control. Where is the remote control? We've all had it once, I want Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: to watch some television, where's the remote control? That was one of your ideas which you posted Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: in the network folder, Willie Wells: That seems Deshawn Powers: a Willie Wells: very Deshawn Powers: really Willie Wells: good. Deshawn Powers: good idea. Uh these are just the issues. I come to some uh personal experience, findings, possible solutions later. Searches for the button. There are many buttons on a remote control which are not clear. Uh so either we lose those or we try to make it a little bit more clear. Larry Sharrow: Mm uh. Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Deshawn Powers: Uh also symbols tend to fade after a while. There's nothing more annoying than faded symbols, because you don't know which channel is this button, so possibly we could find Willie Wells: Okay, Deshawn Powers: uh Willie Wells: so have it more make it more Deshawn Powers: something Willie Wells: durable Deshawn Powers: for that, Willie Wells: actually. Deshawn Powers: yes. Willie Wells: Okay. Deshawn Powers: Uh covered that. Oh yes, user presses the button. Um usually when you have a lot of buttons, buttons are small. So you press more once remote control goes Willie Wells: Okay, so Deshawn Powers: kablouey Willie Wells: the buttons should Deshawn Powers: or something Willie Wells: be Deshawn Powers: like that, so we have to pay attention not to put too mun too many buttons on Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Deshawn Powers: uh the remote control. Willie Wells: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: And possibly also the size, so Willie Wells: Wow. Deshawn Powers: more important buttons, Willie Wells: The s Yeah. Deshawn Powers: bigger Willie Wells: Make it Deshawn Powers: si Willie Wells: make them bigger. Even Deshawn Powers: So Willie Wells: more Deshawn Powers: this Willie Wells: durable Deshawn Powers: is basically Willie Wells: uh. Deshawn Powers: what I h had in mind in the fade-proof symbols, locator, a sound, uh so clear we should stick to existing symbols, but maybe we could do a little uh investigation to see whether some symbols are uh need to be replaced by others. Willie Wells: Okay. Deshawn Powers: Uh This I pretty much covered. So what we want to go to is not this one, but more Willie Wells: Yeah, it's true. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: less buttons, easy, some bigger buttons. So that's basically uh Willie Wells: Yeah, Deshawn Powers: what Willie Wells: that's Deshawn Powers: I had Willie Wells: clear. Deshawn Powers: in mind. This is not the final design, this Willie Wells: No, Deshawn Powers: is just Willie Wells: of course Deshawn Powers: a general Willie Wells: uh Deshawn Powers: idea of Willie Wells: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: how I'd like to see uh Willie Wells: I must Deshawn Powers: basically Willie Wells: say that Deshawn Powers: the Willie Wells: it Deshawn Powers: general idea. Willie Wells: Hmm. Deshawn Powers: So that was it. Willie Wells: That was it. Okay, that was good. So we agree on the the part that we need to get something on the on the remote to find it somewhere Deshawn Powers: Yeah, Willie Wells: and Deshawn Powers: I think Willie Wells: increase Deshawn Powers: it's a Willie Wells: it Deshawn Powers: really good idea. Willie Wells: the durability of of the thing, so Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: The other aspects, we'll just see how what you came up with and what's possible for that budget. Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: Okay. Stephen Kovacs: Okay, that's fine Um. Okay, now work a little with Larry Sharrow. Okay. Well, let's start it as it is. Okay, uh the method. There are a few questions that need to be answered, uh you already uh talked about it a little bit. Which buttons are wanted, uh is our remote control universal or should it be programmable. Uh if it should be programmeab grammeale then we need um something like a mode that you can switch it. buttons have to send out a different signal then they would normally do. Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Stephen Kovacs: And uh how big is the remote control uh going to be? I'll tell you why that's important to Larry Sharrow. Um there are a lot of technical parts in the remote control, so uh uh that's why I also would like to say uh go a little bit easy on the designs, uh I heard ab uh you talking about beeps and about uh video screens, but uh the material inside and the technical aspects are quite complex already. Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Stephen Kovacs: So keep in mind that everything that you keep uh think of, it has to b to be built. So it's Willie Wells: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: that's Willie Wells: Of course, Stephen Kovacs: not as easy as Willie Wells: hmm. Stephen Kovacs: it s Deshawn Powers: Okay. Stephen Kovacs: might look like. Uh material study, I'm working on that um for the the costs. I have to check out how far I can go with that. Normally, a circuit board is made of fibreglass uh and the wires are made of copper. Uh that is how it is done and all the remote controls work that way, I think we can just go on with that. Um then I've read more integration of materials means less cost for the production. The more we can make uh at once uh in one piece, uh that is cheaper. Willie Wells: You mean integrate them all into the circuit board. Stephen Kovacs: Exactly, Willie Wells: Okay. Stephen Kovacs: so if we make a circuit board with the the connections already on it, then that's cheaper. Willie Wells: Yeah, Stephen Kovacs: So we Willie Wells: okay. Stephen Kovacs: have to Willie Wells: So you have Stephen Kovacs: make something that's not too difficult in design again. This is what look like uh looks like if you press one button, so this is not the entire thing. You have the the power coming in, then you have like a switch. The switch uh uh uh if you p press it then some electrical charge goes into the processor, that thinks over a Morse code, that's how you should see it. The Morse code goes to the amplifier, then uh the signal is sent to two uh light bulbs. You have infrared and an interv um uh how to say it? Uh a light in indication, light that you know Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Stephen Kovacs: that it's functioning. Uh here again, that's my story about the different modes, if you do want to make remote uh universal, then the processor has to uh make up a different Morse code when some button is pressed. That makes it much more complex, so we really need to have a look, do we want that or not. Uh I don't have any personal p uh preferences uh so far, except for uh Willie Wells: Okay. Stephen Kovacs: the materials to be used uh light, that they are light. Willie Wells: Okay. That was it? Stephen Kovacs: That was Willie Wells: I'll get Stephen Kovacs: it. Willie Wells: back to my thing then. Uh Willie Wells: Okay, back this up to the screen. So I got some new information on the project specifications are changing a little. Like you said uh teletext is not not very popular anymore because the uh the internet, nowadays people don't use the teletext anymore or hardly, so it can either Well, I don't think we should remove the button, because there are always people who are using it. Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: But I don't think it should be very it should be one of the big buttons for example. Just put it somewhere or under second option or whatever. It's not important anymore. Um we're targeting young people now, because our um This is a new product and with this new product we want to appeal to Larry Sharrow: Uh. Willie Wells: younger people, which are um the younger Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: people were defined under forty. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: I so I think it's Larry Sharrow: B Willie Wells: that's also good with the fashion and everything, so Larry Sharrow: Yeah, Willie Wells: yeah. Larry Sharrow: and they want to pay for it and uh Willie Wells: They want to pay for it, people are willing to spend money actually to buy a um remote that they like. Larry Sharrow: With Willie Wells: If they like Larry Sharrow: more Willie Wells: the way it looks, the way it functions, so they're actually gonna spend uh spend money on it. Larry Sharrow: Where with more technical specifications Willie Wells: Yeah. Larry Sharrow: in the Willie Wells: see how far we can go with it anyway, so Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: And one thing that should be important is that the corporate l colour and slogan are recognisable, and yellow, but I'm not sure if we I think we should keep the the logo in mind, because with colours you can uh have a lot of uh fashionable colours and everything on it, which suits everybody's taste. So With that concept I started thinking, so why not just steal Nokia's idea and just make changeable Deshawn Powers: Oh. Willie Wells: covers for your I mean those cost hardly anything I think, Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Willie Wells: and people could even spend extra money on buying a cover and so have an entire new remote control that they like to see. Or we can sh for example we can make a different a basic design. And sell the covers separately, for example. That's just a little marketing idea that could be applied, so you can p it appeals to really everyone. So you don't have to I think you don't have to make entire remote controls. We make a basic one and manufacture this cover separately. Stephen Kovacs: Mm-hmm. Willie Wells: So that was that was my idea on what we could do to appeal this product to everyone. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: So just I'm not sure if you came up with anything in the meantime, after making a presentation. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: Would you like to share? Stephen Kovacs: No, I think this is a good idea. Willie Wells: Okay. Stephen Kovacs: But Larry Sharrow: But Deshawn Powers: Is Larry Sharrow: oh? Deshawn Powers: it manageable? Stephen Kovacs: Go ahead. Larry Sharrow: Yeah, Deshawn Powers: Is it easy? Larry Sharrow: with with an L_C_D_ screen you can Willie Wells: Oh yeah. I think Stephen Kovacs: Y Willie Wells: we should lose the L_C_D_ screen, like you Stephen Kovacs: Yes, Willie Wells: said. Larry Sharrow: Why? Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: I Stephen Kovacs: I Willie Wells: think Stephen Kovacs: think so too. Larry Sharrow: Nokia Willie Wells: for example it's Larry Sharrow: w Willie Wells: it's huge I think the L_C_D_ is huge, it consumes batteries like hell. Larry Sharrow: Uh. Willie Wells: I think it takes up a lot of Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Willie Wells: a lot of power. Deshawn Powers: And it costs too much Willie Wells: It costs Deshawn Powers: to fabricate, Willie Wells: a lot, Deshawn Powers: so Willie Wells: I think. Stephen Kovacs: Okay, Larry Sharrow: Okay. Stephen Kovacs: uh Deshawn Powers: we're Willie Wells: What Deshawn Powers: on a Willie Wells: we Deshawn Powers: tight Willie Wells: could do, Deshawn Powers: budget here. Willie Wells: what could be possible, is maybe not an L_C_D_ screen but with a preview, but y I'm not sure if it's even possible. Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: For example, a little T_V_ guide. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: Like you have a little just just a text only, not Stephen Kovacs: Mm-hmm. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: colour, just a little text thing so you can use your remote as a T_V_ guide. I'm not sure Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: it's even Stephen Kovacs: I Willie Wells: possible, but Stephen Kovacs: have to check that Willie Wells: maybe Stephen Kovacs: out, I'm Willie Wells: okay, Stephen Kovacs: not sure. Willie Wells: make it Yeah, find a little compromise in that, but Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: What did I write down? I think the p yeah, the beep is a very simple thing to imple implement, just Stephen Kovacs: That must Willie Wells: make Stephen Kovacs: be Willie Wells: a Stephen Kovacs: possible. Willie Wells: button on your T_V_ and just hit the button, it beeps somewhere. I Stephen Kovacs: Ja. Willie Wells: think it's easy to implement, we should Stephen Kovacs: I'm Willie Wells: go for Stephen Kovacs: sorry, Willie Wells: that. Stephen Kovacs: whe Deshawn Powers: And Willie Wells: Uh speech Deshawn Powers: it's Stephen Kovacs: where do Willie Wells: recognition. Stephen Kovacs: you wanna hit the T_ you wanna we want a button on the television. Willie Wells: I thin Yeah, I mean where Stephen Kovacs: In Willie Wells: else should you Stephen Kovacs: th Willie Wells: put it? Stephen Kovacs: okay, but that rules out a universal remote control. Because that's Willie Wells: Yeah, Stephen Kovacs: not possible Willie Wells: but Stephen Kovacs: uh. Willie Wells: how are you gonna use that if your I mean if your remote control is Stephen Kovacs: Uh. Willie Wells: lost, how Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Willie Wells: are you gonna press where are you gonna press the button? Stephen Kovacs: Exactly. Deshawn Powers: Maybe just a slap-on sticker with a button which sends out a small Willie Wells: A slap-on Deshawn Powers: signal. Willie Wells: sticker. Oh, you mean as like a separate thing you can attach Larry Sharrow: Mm uh. Willie Wells: to your T_V_. Deshawn Powers: Yeah, Willie Wells: Yeah, that could Deshawn Powers: exactly. Willie Wells: be possible. A little little box you can attach Stephen Kovacs: Okay, Willie Wells: to your T_V_ is fine Stephen Kovacs: then Willie Wells: then, okay. Stephen Kovacs: uh I'd I'd like to know now if we want the uh universal remote control or not, because that's uh Willie Wells: I think it's Stephen Kovacs: determines Willie Wells: universal. Stephen Kovacs: everything I'm gonna do. Willie Wells: I think we should Stephen Kovacs: If not Willie Wells: go for universal, because Stephen Kovacs: Okay. Willie Wells: apparently we're a separate company making separate c remote controls to sell to a lot of diverse Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: people. I think universal remote control Larry Sharrow: Um Willie Wells: should be possible. Stephen Kovacs: Okay, Larry Sharrow: Everyone Stephen Kovacs: then I go for that. Larry Sharrow: uh wants to buy it, so Willie Wells: Yeah, I think Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Larry Sharrow: we Willie Wells: we're targeting Larry Sharrow: w Willie Wells: everyone, Larry Sharrow: yeah. Willie Wells: so Stephen Kovacs: Okay. Willie Wells: remote Stephen Kovacs: No, it's fine with Larry Sharrow, but then I know what to look Willie Wells: Okay, Stephen Kovacs: for. Willie Wells: universal is good. Speech recognition, I think it's very hard, because we're selling across multiple countries. So I think Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: implementing speech recognition is such a small um Larry Sharrow: Or one. Willie Wells: apparatus, it's very hard to do. Larry Sharrow: Or Deshawn Powers: And it's Larry Sharrow: when you say one two uh i it uh it's Willie Wells: Yeah, Larry Sharrow: enough, Willie Wells: but I Larry Sharrow: right? Willie Wells: don't see Larry Sharrow: But Willie Wells: Arabian people speaking Larry Sharrow: Oh Willie Wells: one, Larry Sharrow: yeah. Willie Wells: two uh whatever. Deshawn Powers: Besides that, the technology isn't really super yet, so that Willie Wells: It's Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: is a problem in Willie Wells: It's Deshawn Powers: implementing Willie Wells: not a mature technology, Deshawn Powers: this. Larry Sharrow: Okay. Willie Wells: I think it takes a lot of memory and everything in in a remote control, Deshawn Powers: It's a good Willie Wells: so Deshawn Powers: idea, but it's just not I don't think the market's ripe for that yet. Willie Wells: I don't think it should be implemented in a remote control yet uh. Stephen Kovacs: Uh-huh. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: What else do we have? Um well you should you should look into the in into the materials that are real durable. Stephen Kovacs: Mm-hmm. Willie Wells: So the the the symbols won't fade, maybe a little Stephen Kovacs: Exactly. Willie Wells: harder plastic Stephen Kovacs: I Willie Wells: or especially Stephen Kovacs: already noted Willie Wells: li Stephen Kovacs: that. Willie Wells: we don't maybe we don't have have to do all the buttons, but especially the ones that are um the popular buttons, Stephen Kovacs: Mm, Willie Wells: so Stephen Kovacs: okay. Willie Wells: those always fade first. Stephen Kovacs: Okay. Willie Wells: Mm the thing is the most important things that we have now. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: Let's see. Stephen Kovacs: If we uh make a remote control with changeable covers, then we can also make uh a cover for every language area. That's Willie Wells: For Stephen Kovacs: fo Willie Wells: example? Stephen Kovacs: is uh especially for older people, that they can read it read Willie Wells: Well, Stephen Kovacs: it in their Willie Wells: we're Stephen Kovacs: own Willie Wells: not Stephen Kovacs: language. Willie Wells: we're not Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: targeting older people, we should remember that. Everything Stephen Kovacs: That's Willie Wells: we target is under Stephen Kovacs: okay, Willie Wells: forty, so. Stephen Kovacs: okay. Willie Wells: You assume that that they read correctly and Stephen Kovacs: Huh. Willie Wells: I think they're The most Larry Sharrow: But Willie Wells: important Larry Sharrow: b Willie Wells: thing about young people is that they're really sensitive to to trends that are passing through the world, Stephen Kovacs: Uh Willie Wells: so Stephen Kovacs: okay. Deshawn Powers: But should the exchangeable covers include the buttons themselves or just Willie Wells: No, of Deshawn Powers: the Willie Wells: course. No, I think it's just something you you put over them, because Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: Yeah we c Yeah, you ca Larry Sharrow: But Willie Wells: Well, Larry Sharrow: every Deshawn Powers: C Willie Wells: tha that's Deshawn Powers: that's Willie Wells: not Deshawn Powers: a Willie Wells: a that's Deshawn Powers: problem Willie Wells: not a Deshawn Powers: with Willie Wells: bad Deshawn Powers: the with Willie Wells: that's Deshawn Powers: the Willie Wells: not Deshawn Powers: text Willie Wells: even Deshawn Powers: then. Willie Wells: it's not even a bad idea. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: I mean, for example, if you're if you're into the durability issue you could For example, if your buttons are faded, after Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: I mean if you make a durable remote, they are faded, you can just buy a new cover. Uh Stephen Kovacs: Okay. Willie Wells: I'm not sure it's it's hard to make. Stephen Kovacs: Uh Willie Wells: So it's Stephen Kovacs: but Willie Wells: a good Stephen Kovacs: I know Willie Wells: and a Stephen Kovacs: that Willie Wells: bad idea. Stephen Kovacs: the buttons are like a Nokia telephone on uh one sleeve, so you Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Stephen Kovacs: don't have to change your whole cover. Uh we can make something that you can only remove the sleeve. Know Larry Sharrow: Oh. Stephen Kovacs: what Deshawn Powers: Oh Stephen Kovacs: I mean? Deshawn Powers: yeah, I know what you Stephen Kovacs: It Deshawn Powers: mean. Stephen Kovacs: works the same as a Nokia telephone, it's it's in my Willie Wells: Yeah, I Stephen Kovacs: uh Willie Wells: know, it's just Stephen Kovacs: 'kay. Willie Wells: just Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: a one one piece of rubber for example, Stephen Kovacs: Exactly. Willie Wells: okay. Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: Yeah, that's what I something I have to look into. Either either change both the buttons and and the cover or just the cover, I'm not sure which Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: which is easier, so Um anyway, yeah, this is what we're gonna do afterwards, just lunch break and have more individual work after that, so let's see what we let's see we So you have to come up with a components concept, yeah. I want some you should do some trend-watching, because Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: even if we're if we're gonna do those covers and everything, what people really want, that's what we need Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: to know in this phase, because that's gonna be the essential final design that we're gonna come up with. Larry Sharrow: Okay. Willie Wells: Um Yeah, I think user interface is fairly obvious. I mean it Deshawn Powers: Pretty Willie Wells: should Deshawn Powers: straightforward. Willie Wells: be very intuitive, s Yeah, it should speak for itself. Uh for example I bought a remote control last week with a new T_V_, it was it l it's like all buttons and you have no idea what it does at first, and I'm total T_V_ new, anyway. So I think it should be have less or l very little buttons and maybe a second second level menu for the advanced things. Or maybe just stick 'em under a menu, like you said the um the sound options and the surround and whatever, they're more complicated, just stick 'em under one menu and uh give it a just put it in in s in a software piece, you can menu and you can uh select Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: everything you want to to set on your T_V_. Deshawn Powers: Is it techni technically possible to uh send a signal to a television and then Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: pops up a menu, because we're working with different types of television, so we're going to work Willie Wells: That Deshawn Powers: with that? Willie Wells: is true. Stephen Kovacs: I don't think so. Willie Wells: No, that's true. Stephen Kovacs: No, I don't think so. Because the television needs to respond to Willie Wells: Yeah, Stephen Kovacs: the signal, Willie Wells: that's true. Deshawn Powers: It's Stephen Kovacs: and if Deshawn Powers: an Stephen Kovacs: it doesn't Deshawn Powers: in-built Stephen Kovacs: know how, Deshawn Powers: menu, Stephen Kovacs: it's Deshawn Powers: isn't it? Yes. Stephen Kovacs: Exactly, that's not possible. Deshawn Powers: So basically we Willie Wells: I'm not sure if it's impossible, but uh there's a chance it's not, so. Deshawn Powers: Or we could use a double-sided for less used functions you Willie Wells: A double-sided remote control? Deshawn Powers: Yeah, Willie Wells: I don't think that's useful. Deshawn Powers: with the cover. I it's basically an idea to overcome these issues, because Willie Wells: Yeah, but then you're gonna have a lot of wasted buttons. For example you have a Sony T_V_ and the half of the buttons won't function if you have Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: a for a Sony Deshawn Powers: No, Willie Wells: that Deshawn Powers: but Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: won't Deshawn Powers: basic Willie Wells: for Deshawn Powers: functions Willie Wells: a Philips T_V_. Deshawn Powers: but functions which are not frequently used. Because Willie Wells: I don't Deshawn Powers: if Willie Wells: think Deshawn Powers: we Willie Wells: we Deshawn Powers: use Willie Wells: should Deshawn Powers: a Willie Wells: Yeah, Deshawn Powers: universal Willie Wells: for exam Deshawn Powers: remote control, we're going to have to have most buttons on it, so Larry Sharrow: Mm Willie Wells: I'm not s Larry Sharrow: yeah. Willie Wells: yeah, for ex you have to make it a little decision between the part if you want a universal remote control that it should do what people usually do with their T_V_s, not Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: not the very complicated settings that you Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: can usually do that with uh either a old old remote control if they really hate that thing, but Stephen Kovacs: But that Willie Wells: you Stephen Kovacs: might Willie Wells: can't Stephen Kovacs: be broken. Willie Wells: you cannot take into consideration all the different brands of T_V_s. I think there's I think there is a standard for Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: example between uh because usually the the menu is the menu button is is usable Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: between different brands. Especially the big ones, the Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: big brands, so. 'Cause everybody I have a universal remote control and it can use the menu button, Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: so I think I'm not sure, if you can put some research into that, if it's possible. Uh Stephen Kovacs: Mm okay. Willie Wells: I think just a b and the navigation is very basic, it's usually the same thing. Stephen Kovacs: For instance, if your old remote control is broken and you buy ours, then uh you Willie Wells: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: should be able to get everything out of the television that's in it. Willie Wells: Yeah, that's Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: true. Stephen Kovacs: Because Willie Wells: I Stephen Kovacs: otherwise Willie Wells: think Stephen Kovacs: you'll Willie Wells: so Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: lose Willie Wells: uh Stephen Kovacs: functions Willie Wells: we need Stephen Kovacs: by Willie Wells: to put Stephen Kovacs: buying Willie Wells: some research Stephen Kovacs: our Willie Wells: into that if if we can open the menu, I think it's possible, Stephen Kovacs: Okay, Willie Wells: just the way how to. Stephen Kovacs: I thi I think so too. Larry Sharrow: Yeah, yeah. Willie Wells: Yeah, then then you could do everything I suppose, because usually the T_V_s have tha that inside in this other little piece of software, so it's okay. Stephen Kovacs: And I think that our r remote control should not look like uh any other. For instance uh Sony makes all their remote controls exactly the same Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Stephen Kovacs: for all their devices, and you always grab the wrong one because formatting of the buttons is exactly Willie Wells: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: the same, only the labels are different. Willie Wells: Yeah I think Stephen Kovacs: We should Willie Wells: it Stephen Kovacs: not Willie Wells: should Stephen Kovacs: do Willie Wells: be Stephen Kovacs: that. Willie Wells: a little distinct from everything else, Stephen Kovacs: Exactly. Willie Wells: because it's Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: either it's both Deshawn Powers: Yeah, I have Willie Wells: mayb Deshawn Powers: some ideas. Willie Wells: maybe the shape can be a little different. Deshawn Powers: I Willie Wells: Maybe Deshawn Powers: have Willie Wells: it's Deshawn Powers: some Willie Wells: a little Deshawn Powers: ideas. Larry Sharrow: Um Willie Wells: more Stephen Kovacs: Mm Willie Wells: curves Stephen Kovacs: that's your Willie Wells: or whatever. Stephen Kovacs: uh Larry Sharrow: yeah. Stephen Kovacs: division. Larry Sharrow: And uh with Willie Wells: So um Larry Sharrow: different colours uh. Deshawn Powers: I'll put some on paper and present them next time uh Willie Wells: Yeah, Deshawn Powers: the ideas Willie Wells: this. Deshawn Powers: that I have. Willie Wells: Not Larry Sharrow: Okay. Willie Wells: sure what because we have forty minutes, I'm not sure how much time we have left for the meeting anyway, so. Deshawn Powers: I heard a beep Willie Wells: Yeah, but Deshawn Powers: go. Willie Wells: it wasn't Larry Sharrow, it was him closing Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: something. So anyway, yeah, we could do some i do some work now on on the design for example. I mean what do you want, do you want, but Deshawn Powers: Yeah, but we like some some curves or Willie Wells: Yeah, may maybe something like this. But though smooth inside. So you have the transmitter here for example. Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: Let's see that you what would be Larry Sharrow: Uh. Willie Wells: handy. I think that the the buttons should be the channel buttons should Larry Sharrow: And a Willie Wells: be Larry Sharrow: light uh Willie Wells: uh on their own. Let's see one, two God damn it. Deshawn Powers: Oh, we get the general ideas, yes. Willie Wells: Yeah, okay. Another one here. Let's see what I think this should these are always on top of the of the control, Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: so they should be here. Deshawn Powers: Yeah, and since you're holding it like this, I suggest you put Willie Wells: Think it's Deshawn Powers: the Willie Wells: like this. Deshawn Powers: channel Larry Sharrow: Volume. Deshawn Powers: up channel down and volume Willie Wells: Withi within Deshawn Powers: yeah Willie Wells: the Yeah, Deshawn Powers: yeah. Willie Wells: just take it. Deshawn Powers: So you have the up channel the down channel the volume, do we want that horizontal or vertical? Willie Wells: Do you take triangles or Larry Sharrow: Uh it's it's fine, Willie Wells: Um Larry Sharrow: I think. Willie Wells: I think Deshawn Powers: This Willie Wells: it Deshawn Powers: is Willie Wells: should Deshawn Powers: basically Willie Wells: be Deshawn Powers: what people are accustomed Willie Wells: I think Deshawn Powers: to, Willie Wells: it Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: so Willie Wells: Maybe we should make 'em bigger or whatever. Deshawn Powers: Yeah, but Larry Sharrow: Oh Deshawn Powers: this Larry Sharrow: d Deshawn Powers: is just a g Willie Wells: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: general idea. Uh maybe the menu button can go i Willie Wells: Yeah, in the middle. It's Deshawn Powers: in the Willie Wells: it's Deshawn Powers: middle. Willie Wells: usually uh there, but Deshawn Powers: Whoa. Willie Wells: Mm. Stephen Kovacs: Perhaps we should also make uh something like a flash on it, if you if it's lost, for people that are deaf. They they won't Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: hear the the beep. Willie Wells: Yeah, but for example if it's lost in your armchair, we'll Deshawn Powers: You Willie Wells: not Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: won't Willie Wells: see Deshawn Powers: be able Willie Wells: the flash. Deshawn Powers: to find it. Willie Wells: And flash Stephen Kovacs: Uh. Willie Wells: takes up a lot of batteries again. Stephen Kovacs: Yeah, it's true, but it's it's only has to do so when you press the button that Larry Sharrow: Just Stephen Kovacs: it's lost. Willie Wells: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: We could make Stephen Kovacs: So. Deshawn Powers: a combination that it goes beep and that you that some Larry Sharrow: And Deshawn Powers: light Larry Sharrow: L_E_D_ Deshawn Powers: lights Larry Sharrow: uh Stephen Kovacs: deaf Deshawn Powers: up. Stephen Kovacs: people? Larry Sharrow: on Willie Wells: Yeah, Larry Sharrow: it. Willie Wells: I thought about for deaf people for example, so. We could do that. Larry Sharrow: Just Willie Wells: Uh Larry Sharrow: a light Willie Wells: let's see. Larry Sharrow: on it or Deshawn Powers: So we have the basic channels we've got here, uh the power button Willie Wells: Oh yeah, it's Deshawn Powers: somewhere Willie Wells: true. Deshawn Powers: over here? Willie Wells: Um that Larry Sharrow: Very Willie Wells: thing Larry Sharrow: important. Willie Wells: should be central. You shouldn't be you uh shouldn't press it by accident, but it shouldn't be stacked Larry Sharrow: Oh, Willie Wells: away somewhere. Deshawn Powers: I usually Larry Sharrow: that's Deshawn Powers: press Larry Sharrow: It's Deshawn Powers: it on top. At least Willie Wells: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: that's what I'm accustomed to. Stephen Kovacs: I Willie Wells: Yeah, Stephen Kovacs: have another idea, Willie Wells: like that's Stephen Kovacs: I'm Willie Wells: gonna work. Larry Sharrow: And Stephen Kovacs: not sure if it's possible. Deshawn Powers: What would you like to? Willie Wells: Yeah, I thought maybe we should Larry Sharrow: But you Willie Wells: move Larry Sharrow: r Willie Wells: the buttons down and Larry Sharrow: And you are Willie Wells: put Larry Sharrow: reading Willie Wells: it here Larry Sharrow: from Willie Wells: for Larry Sharrow: the Willie Wells: example Larry Sharrow: t Willie Wells: to Larry Sharrow: you always read from the top to the the bottom Willie Wells: From Larry Sharrow: of Willie Wells: top Larry Sharrow: it. Willie Wells: to bottom. Yeah, Larry Sharrow: Yeah, Willie Wells: that's Larry Sharrow: so Willie Wells: true, you should Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Larry Sharrow: it's Willie Wells: I think the bu the power button should be on top, 'cause Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: it's the first thing you do, turn it on. So power button on top. Um Deshawn Powers: Okay, mute button. Willie Wells: Mute. Deshawn Powers: Is that Willie Wells: Do we Deshawn Powers: somewhere Willie Wells: hardly Deshawn Powers: here? Willie Wells: I think it should be at the bottom Deshawn Powers: Is Larry Sharrow: So Willie Wells: somewhere. Deshawn Powers: that Larry Sharrow: i Deshawn Powers: used Larry Sharrow: it's Deshawn Powers: often? Larry Sharrow: sorry? Deshawn Powers: The mute button? Willie Wells: Mute. Deshawn Powers: Do people Willie Wells: Turn the Deshawn Powers: use Willie Wells: sound Deshawn Powers: that Willie Wells: off. Larry Sharrow: No, Deshawn Powers: often? Larry Sharrow: it's no. Deshawn Powers: here, Larry Sharrow: Uh. Deshawn Powers: at least Larry Sharrow: Hmm. Deshawn Powers: in general, but Willie Wells: I don't think it's important, Deshawn Powers: It's Willie Wells: but Deshawn Powers: not Willie Wells: I Deshawn Powers: that Willie Wells: think Deshawn Powers: important, Willie Wells: it Deshawn Powers: no. Willie Wells: I think it should be you c you could put Larry Sharrow: Or Willie Wells: it somewhere here. Larry Sharrow: or with the volume selection. Willie Wells: No, because it Yeah, people are accustomed Larry Sharrow: Around Willie Wells: to that, it's Larry Sharrow: uh not uh not at top at the around the volume selection. Willie Wells: Can I have that? Larry Sharrow: I don't Deshawn Powers: Sure. Larry Sharrow: know where Willie Wells: That's j Larry Sharrow: exactly, but Willie Wells: Take this out and here see Uh are we gonna take triangles anyway? I'm drawing triangles, but Deshawn Powers: That's pretty much what people are accustomed to, aren't they? Willie Wells: Yeah, it's maybe a bigger lesser than thing. So anyway, I think this is should be the channels and Larry Sharrow: Wha Willie Wells: or Deshawn Powers: Well, Willie Wells: sh Deshawn Powers: I'm accustomed to Larry Sharrow: No. Deshawn Powers: the channels Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: being Stephen Kovacs: Yeah, Deshawn Powers: on Stephen Kovacs: Larry Sharrow Willie Wells: Here, Stephen Kovacs: too. Deshawn Powers: top. Willie Wells: okay. Larry Sharrow: Yeah, that's better. Willie Wells: Okay, Larry Sharrow: On Willie Wells: should we Larry Sharrow: the Willie Wells: chan Larry Sharrow: right. Willie Wells: okay, this two, channel up and Stephen Kovacs: Shall Willie Wells: down. Stephen Kovacs: we uh also look if it's possible to make a rechargeable remote? That you don't have to Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: buy Willie Wells: Well, Stephen Kovacs: new batteries Willie Wells: for Stephen Kovacs: if Willie Wells: that Stephen Kovacs: every Willie Wells: is it's on one part it's um it's Larry Sharrow: Maybe Willie Wells: a good Larry Sharrow: it's Willie Wells: thing Larry Sharrow: more Willie Wells: to recharge Larry Sharrow: ex Stephen Kovacs: Mm, Larry Sharrow: expensive. Willie Wells: it Stephen Kovacs: yeah. Willie Wells: Maybe we should what what could be possible is Stephen Kovacs: Uh. Willie Wells: one with rechargeable batteries for example. You have just put Penlite batteries that are rechargeable, Stephen Kovacs: But that's Willie Wells: because Stephen Kovacs: already Deshawn Powers: But Willie Wells: it's Stephen Kovacs: possible. Willie Wells: an it's Deshawn Powers: isn't Willie Wells: it's Deshawn Powers: that expensive in the Willie Wells: it's Deshawn Powers: entire Willie Wells: very annoying. Deshawn Powers: package? Willie Wells: I'm not sure y I'm not sure it's if it's expensive, but just take a look at it, because it might be a very good idea. Because if it's it's uh useful to have it rechargeable, Stephen Kovacs: Yes. Willie Wells: but at the same time, if you don't want recha if you forgot to recharge it and you wanna watch T_V_ now, Stephen Kovacs: Yes. Willie Wells: you wanna be able to put different batteries in it, use it now and not in half an hour. Stephen Kovacs: Okay. Uh you could make a device, but I'm not sure how that uh is possible with the costs, that you can put in normal Willie Wells: How about Stephen Kovacs: batteries, rechargeable, but Willie Wells: I Stephen Kovacs: it Willie Wells: think I have a nice idea. Stephen Kovacs: you're the remote also can act as a recharger. So then you can choose, you have every decision. Know what I mean? Willie Wells: Not exactly Stephen Kovacs: You can Willie Wells: uh. Stephen Kovacs: uh put in normal Penlites, rechargeable Penlites, Larry Sharrow: Hmm. Stephen Kovacs: but they can also be recharged with the remote, Larry Sharrow: Yeah Stephen Kovacs: with Larry Sharrow: yeah. Stephen Kovacs: a wire. Willie Wells: I think it's uh it's a pretty good Stephen Kovacs: So Willie Wells: idea to have Larry Sharrow: Yeah, Willie Wells: uh like Stephen Kovacs: but Willie Wells: sort of a Larry Sharrow: that's Willie Wells: maybe Larry Sharrow: g Willie Wells: a base station that you put on the T_V_. Could be flat, you could insert your uh remote into it. Stephen Kovacs: But I think that will cost a lot. Uh Willie Wells: I'm Stephen Kovacs: a normal Willie Wells: not sure. Stephen Kovacs: wire would be better. Like a Willie Wells: A what? Stephen Kovacs: like a P_D_A_, a hand-held. You can uh just put it in the electricity and it charges itself, you Willie Wells: Well, Stephen Kovacs: don't need Willie Wells: we Stephen Kovacs: basic Willie Wells: were Stephen Kovacs: station. Willie Wells: talking about the fact that we wanted to insert either a beep or a flash into Stephen Kovacs: Yes. Willie Wells: the thing with a little separate signal or So you Stephen Kovacs: That Willie Wells: could Stephen Kovacs: is Willie Wells: put that Stephen Kovacs: possible, Willie Wells: on a T_V_ Stephen Kovacs: that's true. Willie Wells: for example. It could be very flat, Larry Sharrow: But Willie Wells: could be very small. It's a very Larry Sharrow: Which Willie Wells: small Yeah, I'm drawing it big now, but So you can put Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: your remote on flat for example. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: And at the backside of remote just just just a little hole Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Willie Wells: for example um you just put it down, it Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Willie Wells: recharges for example. I don't think it's very Deshawn Powers: But again, Willie Wells: expensive. Deshawn Powers: isn't Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: that too expensive? 'Cause that means Willie Wells: I'm not Deshawn Powers: that Willie Wells: sure Deshawn Powers: we Willie Wells: if it Deshawn Powers: have Willie Wells: costs Deshawn Powers: to implement Willie Wells: a lot, that Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: that's Deshawn Powers: rechargeable Willie Wells: what he r Deshawn Powers: batteries, a docking Willie Wells: That's that Deshawn Powers: station Willie Wells: you that's what you buy yourself. Stephen Kovacs: Yes. I'm going to try to find that out. I'm not sure if there's information Willie Wells: It's just Stephen Kovacs: available Willie Wells: an Larry Sharrow: But Willie Wells: idea, Stephen Kovacs: on this, Willie Wells: we Stephen Kovacs: but Willie Wells: have to find out if it's Deshawn Powers: And Willie Wells: possible. Deshawn Powers: do people actually want that? Larry Sharrow: Yeah, they Deshawn Powers: To Larry Sharrow: want Deshawn Powers: pay extra Larry Sharrow: to pay for it. Willie Wells: Do they want Deshawn Powers: they want Willie Wells: but Deshawn Powers: to Willie Wells: they Deshawn Powers: pay Willie Wells: want Deshawn Powers: for Willie Wells: a Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: rechargeable Deshawn Powers: rechargeable? Willie Wells: one? I'm not sure, you should find out if Larry Sharrow: Th uh Willie Wells: it's if rechargeable is important. Larry Sharrow: there was not a el ask esque Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: These are uh comfort issues. Larry Sharrow: But Stephen Kovacs: So I think people will pay they wanted to pay for comfort. Well, this Willie Wells: They want Stephen Kovacs: is Willie Wells: to Stephen Kovacs: comfort. Willie Wells: pay for comfort, we just assu we we could either make a separate Larry Sharrow: But f Willie Wells: station which Larry Sharrow: hmm. Willie Wells: just sends a signal to the remote control to either beep or flash Stephen Kovacs: Yes. Willie Wells: to find it, um and Yeah, we have to either that Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: or make it integrated with a with a docking Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Willie Wells: station. Stephen Kovacs: Exactly. I think this is a brilliant product. I would buy Willie Wells: I Stephen Kovacs: it myself. Willie Wells: think it would be good actually. I like the beep Stephen Kovacs: Uh. Willie Wells: part anyway. So um let's go Stephen Kovacs: I Willie Wells: through Stephen Kovacs: like Willie Wells: the Stephen Kovacs: the covers. That's a brilliant idea. Deshawn Powers: Can can we Stephen Kovacs: I never Deshawn Powers: save Stephen Kovacs: thought Willie Wells: Covers Deshawn Powers: this Willie Wells: is Deshawn Powers: or Willie Wells: covers is good. Yeah, it's Oh we can save this. Up and saved. We even saved the ant. Um Okay. So what we have is you have I think you have to do a lot of work on if it's possible for the cost. Stephen Kovacs: I hope if I have information about Willie Wells: Maybe Stephen Kovacs: that, I'm gonna Willie Wells: yeah, or Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: maybe you can find out i what people are willing to pay. We are going for twenty five Euros Larry Sharrow: Yeah, Willie Wells: sales Larry Sharrow: okay. Willie Wells: price, but just try to find out what they're willing to pay for Larry Sharrow: Yeah Willie Wells: it, because Larry Sharrow: yeah yeah. Willie Wells: if they're willing to pay more, we could lose a little profit and maybe attract Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: more customers, uh we Stephen Kovacs: Yeah. Willie Wells: just have to Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: see what it looks like. Stephen Kovacs: I would like to make a decision. What it costs and what kind of materials that we can uh choose what we want Willie Wells: Yeah, Stephen Kovacs: in Willie Wells: if Stephen Kovacs: it Willie Wells: you have Stephen Kovacs: and Willie Wells: some financial information that Stephen Kovacs: exactly, I need it. Willie Wells: that'd be nice, so. Hmm. Deshawn Powers: Could you post some other essentials of what people want, so that I can work with some buttons, where to put it Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: You seem to have information on that, I'd like to uh see some of it. Stephen Kovacs: Was it not possible to uh send emails around the office? Willie Wells: No, it wasn't Deshawn Powers: No, Willie Wells: wasn't Deshawn Powers: it's not. Willie Wells: allo Stephen Kovacs: Not. Willie Wells: it was possible, not Deshawn Powers: No. Willie Wells: allowed, so. So that's Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: um why I'm not sure that you're allowed to share Larry Sharrow: My computer Willie Wells: documents Larry Sharrow: crashed, Willie Wells: on the on the draft. Larry Sharrow: so Stephen Kovacs: Yeah, Larry Sharrow: uh Stephen Kovacs: okay. Willie Wells: I don't care. Larry Sharrow: I Willie Wells: I Larry Sharrow: lost Deshawn Powers: Oh, your computer. Willie Wells: haven't Larry Sharrow: my Willie Wells: heard Larry Sharrow: uh Willie Wells: any Larry Sharrow: presentation, Willie Wells: complaints Deshawn Powers: Okay. Willie Wells: yet, so. Larry Sharrow: but Willie Wells: Um Larry Sharrow: I have the uh Deshawn Powers: Well, I have your PowerPoint presentation, I can get some Larry Sharrow: Yeah, but Deshawn Powers: inf Larry Sharrow: I Deshawn Powers: information out of that. Larry Sharrow: Here I have the Deshawn Powers: Let's see. Larry Sharrow: the s the homepage of uh our internet, Willie Wells: Yeah, the Larry Sharrow: and Willie Wells: oh, Larry Sharrow: here Willie Wells: they Larry Sharrow: is Willie Wells: inc Larry Sharrow: my Willie Wells: uh they include the new one. Or Deshawn Powers: Oh, Willie Wells: just Deshawn Powers: where Willie Wells: for you. Deshawn Powers: would we Larry Sharrow: here is my marketing report, maybe you ca Willie Wells: Oh Larry Sharrow: you Willie Wells: no, Larry Sharrow: can Willie Wells: I didn't Larry Sharrow: look Willie Wells: have Larry Sharrow: at Willie Wells: that. Larry Sharrow: uh that and Deshawn Powers: Where would we want the uh teletext Larry Sharrow: Ah yeah. Deshawn Powers: button? Because we Larry Sharrow: And Deshawn Powers: decided Willie Wells: All Larry Sharrow: one Willie Wells: it tells Deshawn Powers: that Willie Wells: just Deshawn Powers: it's n not that important. Willie Wells: let's Deshawn Powers: Do we Willie Wells: make Deshawn Powers: put Willie Wells: make Deshawn Powers: it Willie Wells: a new Deshawn Powers: somewhere Willie Wells: tick Deshawn Powers: over Willie Wells: the new Deshawn Powers: here? Willie Wells: one. Um other side. Yeah, let's increase it a little because Larry Sharrow: And uh wha what people Deshawn Powers: Or Larry Sharrow: want, Deshawn Powers: maybe this is something for the next meeting, Larry Sharrow: I've Deshawn Powers: I can Larry Sharrow: uh Deshawn Powers: draw out some Willie Wells: Yeah, Deshawn Powers: ideas. Willie Wells: draw us up some some designs of of Larry Sharrow: I Willie Wells: possible Larry Sharrow: have another thing Willie Wells: just Larry Sharrow: uh Willie Wells: keep in mind that the important buttons should be on top Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: and either big, so the Deshawn Powers: Well, Willie Wells: more Deshawn Powers: we have Willie Wells: less important Deshawn Powers: decided more or less the Willie Wells: More Deshawn Powers: basic Willie Wells: or less. Deshawn Powers: structure. I can put the other buttons Willie Wells: Just Deshawn Powers: in Willie Wells: play a little with this, put l shift a little up Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: or down and we'll see what looks best. Stephen Kovacs: What uh what did you wanna say? Willie Wells: Or Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: just po post your Larry Sharrow: Um Willie Wells: designs from time to time on the Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Willie Wells: product share. Larry Sharrow: Uh what I al already said is the Deshawn Powers: Maybe Larry Sharrow: the uh Deshawn Powers: another idea Larry Sharrow: the remote controls Deshawn Powers: uh. Larry Sharrow: are always lost, but it it's also for people, they want to learn it fast, not uh Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Larry Sharrow: they Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Larry Sharrow: want to Willie Wells: Yeah, so we don't want we want very Larry Sharrow: No Willie Wells: little buttons, just the buttons Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: you use a lot. Larry Sharrow: It's yeah, it's easy to learn Deshawn Powers: Yes, but Larry Sharrow: wi Deshawn Powers: it Larry Sharrow: and Deshawn Powers: should Larry Sharrow: uh Deshawn Powers: cover all the functions, so possibly, Willie Wells: Well what Deshawn Powers: just an Larry Sharrow: Um Deshawn Powers: idea that Willie Wells: we had Deshawn Powers: popped Willie Wells: function Deshawn Powers: in Willie Wells: that what people do, so. People change channels, people they change the volume and they they change channel, they turn T_V_ off and on, for example. That's the basic fu that's what you do I'm not sure who present that again, but those are the basic function that people use it for, so those should be very well represented. Deshawn Powers: Yeah, Larry Sharrow: And Deshawn Powers: but we could go a step further, because some T_V_s have the uh possibility Larry Sharrow: The Deshawn Powers: to adjust brightness, Larry Sharrow: If Deshawn Powers: that kind of menus. Willie Wells: That's true, but that's what we stick under the menu button. Everything is you Deshawn Powers: Yes, Willie Wells: say in Deshawn Powers: but Willie Wells: every Deshawn Powers: it Willie Wells: T_V_ that's configured under the menu. Stephen Kovacs: But Deshawn Powers: Because Stephen Kovacs: that's the question, Deshawn Powers: we're making Stephen Kovacs: is Larry Sharrow: Um Stephen Kovacs: it? Because it needs to be configured in the television under the menu. Willie Wells: Yeah, but Stephen Kovacs: If it isn't, then we cannot reach it. Deshawn Powers: We need to adjust Willie Wells: But Deshawn Powers: to Willie Wells: I think Deshawn Powers: the Willie Wells: most modern T_V_s Deshawn Powers: technology. Willie Wells: have it Stephen Kovacs: I think Willie Wells: in Stephen Kovacs: so Willie Wells: their Stephen Kovacs: too. Willie Wells: menu. Stephen Kovacs: I think Deshawn Powers: True. Stephen Kovacs: so too. Uh isn't there a possibility to do research on that, so we know that for sure? If you rule out functions, then uh and that gets known, then people are not gonna buy it. Then the Deshawn Powers: No, Stephen Kovacs: consumer Deshawn Powers: I thi Stephen Kovacs: bond or something says uh you cannot do this and that with it. Larry Sharrow: If um Stephen Kovacs: That's a bad bad com commercial Willie Wells: Uh we'll Stephen Kovacs: for Willie Wells: we'll see what we can come up with. Larry Sharrow: Another Stephen Kovacs: okay. Larry Sharrow: thing I want to say is that uh we are looking at the market for the age uh Willie Wells: Under Larry Sharrow: younger Willie Wells: forty. Larry Sharrow: than forty. Willie Wells: Yeah? Stephen Kovacs: That's true. Larry Sharrow: Um on my report, I didn't uh ish I didn't show it in my uh presentation, Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Larry Sharrow: because my computer crashed. Willie Wells: Yeah yeah. Larry Sharrow: Um they want to pay for an L_C_D_ screen Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Larry Sharrow: and speech recognition. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: The want to Larry Sharrow: So Willie Wells: pay for Oh. Stephen Kovacs: Did they really said Larry Sharrow: i Stephen Kovacs: it like that? Larry Sharrow: yeah. Stephen Kovacs: Those two things. Larry Sharrow: Yeah, and Stephen Kovacs: Do they realise Willie Wells: Uh Stephen Kovacs: how Willie Wells: shall Stephen Kovacs: much Willie Wells: we? Stephen Kovacs: that costs? That's Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: almost undoable. Deshawn Powers: Oh, Willie Wells: Younger, Deshawn Powers: we're not going Willie Wells: age Deshawn Powers: to be able Larry Sharrow: Uh Willie Wells: sixteen Deshawn Powers: to sell it Willie Wells: and Deshawn Powers: for Willie Wells: forty Deshawn Powers: twenty-five Larry Sharrow: but Willie Wells: five. Deshawn Powers: then, with Willie Wells: That's Deshawn Powers: an L_C_D_ Willie Wells: all here, here Deshawn Powers: screen. Willie Wells: it says Stephen Kovacs: No, that's that's. Even if i if Willie Wells: Yeah, Stephen Kovacs: we have Willie Wells: age Stephen Kovacs: this Larry Sharrow: If Willie Wells: sixteen Larry Sharrow: if Stephen Kovacs: lost Willie Wells: forty Larry Sharrow: they Stephen Kovacs: unit, Willie Wells: fi interest Stephen Kovacs: then Willie Wells: in main features Stephen Kovacs: we Willie Wells: more Stephen Kovacs: cannot Willie Wells: critical. Stephen Kovacs: do it for that price. Willie Wells: Okay, so we're not focusing on this. Um All the interest in features, not really the L_C_ oh here. Would you pay for uh speech recognition in a remote control. Hmm, okay? Stephen Kovacs: Yeah, that's true. Larry Sharrow: So uh we can Willie Wells: Speech recognition is Larry Sharrow: We Willie Wells: quite Larry Sharrow: can look at the possibilities for an uh L_C_D_ and uh Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: Yeah, just look Larry Sharrow: I Willie Wells: at Larry Sharrow: dunno. Willie Wells: the possibilities Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: then, because if apparently Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: it's what people want, Larry Sharrow: How Willie Wells: it's Larry Sharrow: much it Willie Wells: supposed Larry Sharrow: will cost Willie Wells: to be a luxurious Stephen Kovacs: Uh. Larry Sharrow: and Willie Wells: remote, maybe it's not even that expensive. Or find a compromise, maybe just a black and white Stephen Kovacs: Uh Willie Wells: or Stephen Kovacs: I Willie Wells: for some extra Larry Sharrow: Um Willie Wells: information Deshawn Powers: Well Willie Wells: on it, Deshawn Powers: I doubt it, but Stephen Kovacs: But Willie Wells: on your Stephen Kovacs: I Willie Wells: programmes. Stephen Kovacs: really need finance information. Willie Wells: Larry Sharrow too. I mean we all do. Stephen Kovacs: We all do. Larry Sharrow: It Willie Wells: Right. Larry Sharrow: will come uh Willie Wells: I think it's something we should put into consideration. Apparently it's what people want, so. Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: We should see if what it costs, if it's possible. Stephen Kovacs: Uh. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: Yeah. Yeah, we should do a little thing about design, because it looks boring really to Larry Sharrow. Even if you put it even if you put a different cover on it, it looks still Larry Sharrow: Different Willie Wells: looks boring, Larry Sharrow: colours Willie Wells: so. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Larry Sharrow: maybe. Stephen Kovacs: And the design, Larry Sharrow: But Stephen Kovacs: it should differ. This Larry Sharrow: all Stephen Kovacs: is Philips, huh? Philips has Willie Wells: I Stephen Kovacs: this. Willie Wells: have no clue. Deshawn Powers: Well, Willie Wells: I just Deshawn Powers: I had basically Willie Wells: drew something what Stephen Kovacs: Okay. Willie Wells: which would fit into your hand easily. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Uh. Deshawn Powers: Something like this. To make it kind of futuristic. Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Oh, I realise if we make it small, then it needs to be a little thicker, Willie Wells: I Stephen Kovacs: because Willie Wells: think Stephen Kovacs: I Willie Wells: it's Stephen Kovacs: need Willie Wells: a Stephen Kovacs: to Willie Wells: very Stephen Kovacs: put all the electronics in it. Willie Wells: Sorry? Stephen Kovacs: If we make it s uh smaller, uh less wide, Willie Wells: Yeah? Stephen Kovacs: then we need to m make it a little thicker, because I have to put all the electronics Willie Wells: Okay. Stephen Kovacs: in it. Willie Wells: Mm-hmm. Yeah, but you have Larry Sharrow: Okay. Willie Wells: to j just keep in mind it shouldn't be too heavy. I mean we can stick it in in there, I think. Stephen Kovacs: No. Willie Wells: Huh Deshawn Powers: So what Willie Wells: even Deshawn Powers: kind Willie Wells: if Deshawn Powers: of Willie Wells: in the worst case we can even Could you give Larry Sharrow the pen back? Deshawn Powers: Yeah, sure. Willie Wells: So let's say that people would want an L_C_D_ thing. Let's take take the basic design again, what we oh, crap uh came up with. I'll just make it a little bigger now. So a transmitter here. Anyway. We could let's say we have an L_C_D_ screen, people want an L_C_D_ screen. So then we should probably put it here. It doesn't have to be really big, but Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: just just have to be has to be there. Think it's a good place, people don't Larry Sharrow: If you're reading from top to bottom, I think it's better to put it uh at Willie Wells: No? Larry Sharrow: the top. Willie Wells: It's not that Stephen Kovacs: Larry Sharrow Willie Wells: uh it's Larry Sharrow: It's Stephen Kovacs: too. Willie Wells: not Larry Sharrow: j Willie Wells: the most important function, it's just Stephen Kovacs: Ah Willie Wells: an extra thing, it just Larry Sharrow: Uh. Willie Wells: you press the buttons Stephen Kovacs: but. Willie Wells: on top, because Larry Sharrow: But Willie Wells: your Larry Sharrow: i Willie Wells: finger is Larry Sharrow: if Willie Wells: on top. Larry Sharrow: you if you are going to uh put the L_C_D_ on it, I think it's very important to use it, uh because it's use it uh Willie Wells: How can you use an L_C_D_ screen? Larry Sharrow: But nee the function of it. So you can use it maximum, because uh it's a lot it costs a lot. So Willie Wells: Yeah, but why I I'm Deshawn Powers: Now Willie Wells: not sure. Deshawn Powers: it's pretty much tucked away in your hand. Willie Wells: Uh if you t Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: if you press a button, you can see it, ri I'm not sure wha I'm trying to imagine myself Stephen Kovacs: No. Willie Wells: what it would look like. Stephen Kovacs: M I Deshawn Powers: I'm Stephen Kovacs: personally would prefer it on the top. Willie Wells: You would prefer Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: it n Okay. Stephen Kovacs: Huh. Willie Wells: So we have three people saying it should be on top. Okay, Stephen Kovacs: But Willie Wells: but then Stephen Kovacs: it Willie Wells: you would would s have to stack away your buttons somewhere else. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: Anyways. Larry Sharrow: It's expensive to build it, so Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: Uh this Larry Sharrow: you Deshawn Powers: I'm Willie Wells: looks Larry Sharrow: must Deshawn Powers: still Willie Wells: a little Deshawn Powers: not Larry Sharrow: use Deshawn Powers: convinced Larry Sharrow: the maximum Deshawn Powers: of Larry Sharrow: of it. Deshawn Powers: the Willie Wells: About the L_C_D_s thing. Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: Well if it if it's if it's possible wi Stephen Kovacs: They Willie Wells: if Stephen Kovacs: want Willie Wells: it's Stephen Kovacs: it uh. Willie Wells: not too expensive, we should include it, because it's it's cool. Stephen Kovacs: We should just try to make that if it's possible. If it is possible we should really do it, but we need that information. Larry Sharrow: Huh. Uh. Stephen Kovacs: Also Larry Sharrow: But Stephen Kovacs: keep in mind Larry Sharrow: uh Stephen Kovacs: again, the L_C_D_ screen is very flat, but it needs transistors, resistors, I don't know what more and that needs space. So I have to look if that's possible. Larry Sharrow: Yeah, I know uh. Stephen Kovacs: But if Deshawn Powers: So basically Stephen Kovacs: we Deshawn Powers: can I Willie Wells: Uh we have Deshawn Powers: what Willie Wells: green Deshawn Powers: we have Willie Wells: now Deshawn Powers: to decide Willie Wells: uh Deshawn Powers: now is uh what goes on top. Do we put the volume control and the channel control here, or do we put it on he Would we like Larry Sharrow: In Deshawn Powers: to press Larry Sharrow: middle Willie Wells: Or Larry Sharrow: of Willie Wells: maybe Deshawn Powers: it Larry Sharrow: it. Willie Wells: we should m Deshawn Powers: in the Willie Wells: we Deshawn Powers: middle? Willie Wells: could uh draw Larry Sharrow: In the middle. Willie Wells: draw something a bit that has it on on on the bottom. Maybe in a circle for example, like we like in this example. I think this is not good, but for we could make circular buttons for example. Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Willie Wells: For up Deshawn Powers: Yes, Willie Wells: and Deshawn Powers: but Willie Wells: down, Deshawn Powers: we Willie Wells: ma Deshawn Powers: do agree Willie Wells: make Deshawn Powers: that Willie Wells: it a circle Deshawn Powers: we Willie Wells: on it, because it Deshawn Powers: keep this at the centre, because it's basically Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Deshawn Powers: the most important Willie Wells: I think the channel Larry Sharrow: It's the Willie Wells: button Larry Sharrow: most Deshawn Powers: function. Willie Wells: should Larry Sharrow: import Willie Wells: be in the centre. Larry Sharrow: yeah. Willie Wells: Channel button should be st stick together, for example here in this section. Because it's Deshawn Powers: Well, that Willie Wells: uh Deshawn Powers: would make them quite small. Willie Wells: We're not sure Deshawn Powers: So maybe Willie Wells: about the size Deshawn Powers: you'd put Willie Wells: anyway, Deshawn Powers: them here. Willie Wells: just a general design. You can make it as big as you want. For example if Deshawn Powers: Yes, Willie Wells: you take Deshawn Powers: but a big remote Willie Wells: uh Deshawn Powers: control probably not something which Stephen Kovacs: Hmm. Deshawn Powers: people Willie Wells: No, Deshawn Powers: would like. Willie Wells: let's see. For example Stephen Kovacs: If Willie Wells: just Stephen Kovacs: we have a a space issue, we can also lose one battery. It is rechargeable, so we can stick with one instead Willie Wells: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: of two. That Willie Wells: I Stephen Kovacs: might Willie Wells: don't Stephen Kovacs: be Willie Wells: think Stephen Kovacs: an option. Willie Wells: if we if we even use an L_C_D_ screen, we need to, definitely. Stephen Kovacs: Yeah, but if we need two batteries and an L_C_D_ screen, that means a lot of space that we need. Willie Wells: Yeah, but Stephen Kovacs: But it Willie Wells: we Stephen Kovacs: has Willie Wells: have Stephen Kovacs: to be a little Willie Wells: to Stephen Kovacs: bit Willie Wells: see what Stephen Kovacs: heavier. Willie Wells: the si what the size is. Stephen Kovacs: Okay. Willie Wells: The L_C_D_ doesn't have to nee doesn't need to be very big. Stephen Kovacs: No, but the things behind it. space. Willie Wells: Mm let's see. Stephen Kovacs: Like Larry Sharrow: Finish Stephen Kovacs: a process uh. Larry Sharrow: meeting now. It's Willie Wells: Finish Larry Sharrow: on Willie Wells: meeting Larry Sharrow: your computer. Willie Wells: now. Okay, we will. Deshawn Powers: So would Willie Wells: So Deshawn Powers: we Willie Wells: either Deshawn Powers: like this or would we like the Willie Wells: We either we have to decide what Stephen Kovacs: I like Willie Wells: what Stephen Kovacs: this Willie Wells: people Stephen Kovacs: one Willie Wells: want. Stephen Kovacs: more. Willie Wells: Either this one, this this could be the luxurious one. So we have channel buttons here. I'm just drawing something uh. Uh I think this would this would look cool. You could have it for example small Larry Sharrow: Uh. Willie Wells: buttons here for some extra functions, so if your basic function's here, we should like we decided before, programmes up and down, Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Willie Wells: and Deshawn Powers: Let's Larry Sharrow: Or Willie Wells: volume Deshawn Powers: see Willie Wells: here. Deshawn Powers: what we have here. Larry Sharrow: And uh what about speech recognition uh Willie Wells: Well you can just no, I'm not Larry Sharrow: Yeah, Willie Wells: sure if we can do that, but Larry Sharrow: yeah, Willie Wells: we could Larry Sharrow: but Willie Wells: put a microphone Larry Sharrow: or Willie Wells: in Larry Sharrow: or Willie Wells: here Larry Sharrow: an Willie Wells: for Larry Sharrow: L_C_D_ Willie Wells: example. Larry Sharrow: or an uh speech. Stephen Kovacs: Mm. Larry Sharrow: I think it's L_C_D_ is better now. Willie Wells: Just to do research into both, w what it costs and what it Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Willie Wells: takes for space. Stephen Kovacs: I'll try Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: to. Willie Wells: But let's cut the meeting for now Stephen Kovacs: One more Willie Wells: yes. Stephen Kovacs: uh thing I'd like to say, uh let's give this uh a name, and not like some vague serial number that no one understands, like Deshawn Powers: Okay. Stephen Kovacs: with cars. Larry Sharrow: Yeah, okay, Stephen Kovacs: Shall we Larry Sharrow: yeah, Stephen Kovacs: all try uh to think about a name? Deshawn Powers: So I think Larry Sharrow: that's Deshawn Powers: of a name. Larry Sharrow: yeah, that's Willie Wells: Yeah, Larry Sharrow: okay. Willie Wells: let's think of a name, okay. Uh okay. Larry Sharrow: Oh, good. Willie Wells: Okay, at anyways, Deshawn Powers: So Willie Wells: the the minutes will be on the on the web shortly, so there we go Deshawn Powers: Yes, Willie Wells: uh. Deshawn Powers: go and finish up and I'll see you at lunch. Larry Sharrow: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: Good luck. Willie Wells: Yeah, to all. Larry Sharrow: Same. Deshawn Powers: Yeah. Stephen Kovacs: Yeah, I've Do we uh save the?

Customers are willing to pay more for fancier looking remotes. They like innovative technology like speech recognition and LCD screens. It also transpires that remotes are easy to lose. Everyone agreed that they need to incorporate a locating mechanism in their design, and that changeable covers could make appealing-looking remotes. The need for clarity of button functions was mentioned. On the other hand, materials should be more durable. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. There are some new requirements: the target group will be people below 40, the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. They drew some of their ideas, and discussed the positioning of the buttons and the LCD. The most used buttons are going to be placed on top. It might be possible to use a charger for the remote. The concept of the design will be finalised in the next meeting.

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