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ROBERT MURAT - SCAPEGOAT: Robert Murat - Arguido Statement Part 2
ROBERT MURAT - SCAPEGOAT
Robert Murat - Arguido Statement Part 2
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBER ... tm#p8p1947
WITNESS STATEMENT (2 of 3) OF ARGUIDO: ROBERT MURAT
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post7012.html#p7012
---- His previous declarations having been read to him he confirmed having made them, however it is his wish to amend some of affirmations that were made then [at that time] as he had confused some events, in particular in what he said with respect to the dates and times of what happened.
He stated events that he said had happened on Wednesday 02 and that now he more calmly recalls them having happened on Thursday and vice versa.
There are also other events that he now recalls happened in those two days in particular that he wants to disclose.
---- He intends to clarify that he has no accounting qualification.
In truth when he worked in car sales firms, called INCHCAPE and NISSAN, in Norwich, he attended professional training courses aimed at the sales sector.
---- He wants also to clarify that in fact Michaela accompanied him three times to the United Kingdom and her daughter, Cxxxx Sxxxx Walczuch Ant�nio, only accompanied them once, namely at the time of Christmas of 2006.
---- The defendant intended to clarify that on the morning of 02 [May] he did not leave the house by 10:00-10:30, as stated previously but in fact he had met with Sergey Malinca on 02 [May], Wednesday, in the Baptista supermarket, at 10:00, he having arrived 15 to 20 minutes before and accompanied by Michaela whom he had gone to collect at her home in the VW.
They talked about the Romigen web site that Sergey was setting up.
The meeting lasted about 30 minutes and in the end Sergey left alone with the accused and Michaela having proceeded to Lagos.
---- To this point he wants to say that on the day prior to his interrogation he went to bed around 03:00, having up to that time accompanied officers of the PJ, namely Inspector Reis Sxxxxx, who invited him for coffee in the bar Bom Vivant, where they remained until about that hour he being certain that he was woken up at 07:00 when PJ officers went to his house.
So he had slept for only about 4 hours and was therefore very tired.
---- In truth after the meeting he proceeded with Michaela to Lagos, as he had affirmed in the previous interrogation.
He wants also to clarify in this interview that before they had gone to Francisco Pagarete's house they were both at Caixa Agr�cola [a bank in Portugal].
There the defendant made a cash deposit, of [English] pounds, into his account.
He does not remember the exact amount deposited but thinks that it would be about one hundred or so pounds.
In this interview [for the record] the defendant confirmed through the reading of a tally slip that that deposit was exactly an amount of 287.51 Euros.
He states that when he was in England he withdrew this amount, from an Automated Teller Machine (ATM), from an account of his or his mother's that he/she has in Lloyds bank with the objective of coming later to deposit it in his account at Caixa de Cr�dito Agr�cola.
Asked he states that usually he has with him debit and credit cards of his mother.
---- Later the defendant and Michaela went to the home / office of Dr. Francisco Pagarete, on foot, given that that residence is situated about 200 meters from the bank.
It would have been about 11:00-11:30 when he found Dr. Francisco Pagarete in his home.
Since he [FP] had not been telephoned by him [RM], using his mobile phone 91918xxxx, it was then agreed to meet later.
---- Also he clarifies that before having been with Dr. Francisco, already during the afternoon, the defendant and Michaela went to collect Cxxxxxxxx at school who then accompanied them during all the rest of the day.
He refers therefore that after having been with Dr. Francisco they did not go directly to the home of Michaela, having instead gone to the marina of Lagos where they had met again with Jorge Sxxxx, and his son where they continued the conversation about the company that they intend to make.
It was at this time that Cxxxxxxxx was allowed to play in an playground behind the caf� where they were.
He does not remember the exact time that they left the caf� but he knows that when they had left there the owners of the caf� where they had been closed the doors of establishment.
He recalls that he gave Jorge Sxxxx and his son a ride in his VW van to the bus stop located next to the post office, where they left them, the defendant, Michaela and Cxxxxxxxx having then proceeded to Michaela's house.
He remembers that when they arrived there Michaela began to prepare the dinner so it would have been about 20:00.
---- He states not being sure about having seen Lu�s arriving that night at Michaela's house.
He affirms that around 22:30-23:00 he left from the home of Michaela having gone directly to his home, that is to Casa LILIANA, where he will have arrived by 22:45-23:15.
He does not remember having stopped anywhere nor having spoken with anybody on that journey and he took the route that he usually takes passing by Intermarch� [a super/hypermarket chain in Portugal] and by the Total petrol station.
He is sure that he left the van parked in the street, that is in front of the house, because he always does that when he uses the van.
---- Again questioned, he states with absolute certainty that on the night of 02 May, after leaving the home of Michaela, he went directly to his home.
Once in the village of Luz he only stopped the car next to the gate and entered his home immediately.
[FP's] office/home, he [RM] had contacted him [FP] to know if he was there, [that] was what happened.
For the rest of what happened that day he confirms what he stated in the previous interrogation, reaffirming that in truth he spoke with his mother, who was still awake, and that he connected the computer having stayed awake until about 01:00-01:30.
In this regard he affirms it to be normal [usual] that his mother is still up until about 00:00-01:00, given that only after dealing with some tasks, namely feeding the cats and other chores does she go to bed.
---- He had states that on 02 or 03 May, in the afternoon, for matters related with business, he visited two apartments of the same owner, located at the foot of the "rotunda da bola" [football roundabout/traffic circle] in Lagos.
These visits lasted about 20 to 30 minutes and he did them together with Michaela.
---- He also wants now to amend what he previously said about what he did on 03 May.
Once again he states that being tired and confused he had stated things that he now sees are not correct.
He refers therefore that he will have got up at 08.00 having left home by 08:45.
He had already scheduled a business visit to a tourist complex called "Montinhos de Ouro", located in the region of Espiche, which he made in the company of Michaela.
So he went to collect Michaela at home, driving the VW.
He does not remember if he went up to Michaela's home.
He states that that morning they were both in his van at the complex where they had scheduled a meeting at a time he does not recall exactly but thinks it would be by 09:30.
---- They showed up at that location where they met with the father-in-law of the owner of the venture, whose name he does not remember, but knows that he is a builder in Lisbon, since she still had not yet arrived.
However the owner of the enterprise arrived and Michaela made conversation with her.
Later they went to lunch at the place mentioned in the previous interrogation after which they went to the marina in Lagos where they met with Jorge Sxxxx and his son.
Cxxxxxxxx did not accompany them this day.
They went to the Palmares Golf where they remained until the time came for them to go to pick up Chnstine, that is 15:00-15:30.
Again he gave a ride to Jorge Sxxxx and his son leaving them again at the bus stop next to the post office.
From there they proceeded to the school to pick up Cxxxxxxxx and the three went to Michaela's house having arrived by 15:45.
They were in Michaela's home until 19.30.
---- For the rest of what he said about this day during the 1st interrogation he maintains all its content.
He adds, however, that in the meantime he consulted on the Internet his mobile phone billing and found that on that night he made two calls which he had not remembered having made.
At 23:39 to the number of Sergey Malinca and another at 23:40 to the number of Michaela.
He does not remember, however, having made these calls nor having spoken to those people although he admits he had.
---- Further to what he said about Friday morning he intends to change the time that he woke up.
In listings of his fixed phone it says that he made a call to Michaela at 08:27, which he presumes he must have done, despite not remembering the contents of the conversation nor even having made that call, and therefore he did not wake at 09:00 but before that time.
Ian CI: 139..., phone in the Mr Ian Cxxxxx's house ...in Exeter, "ansiao" of the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Exeter with whom he maintains a close relationship because he had been his Bible teacher in Exeter;
Raj R 797..., mobile of a boy he met when he was helping in the search for Madeleine with whom he spoke for some time, he has not talked to him since;
Z� Montinho ZM 282..., a car repair workshop used by his mother;
S�nia Cx CYC: 918..., another mobile number of Sonia Cxxxxxx;
Z� ZC: 969..., he thinks this Jos� Nxxxx, a colleague in Remax who is not in contact;
Ant�nio Fxxxxxxxxx 917... is a Civil Constructor in Lagos with whom he has a professional relationship;
Fernandes 336... it seems to him that this was a potential Spansih client with whom he did not do business;
Teresa 969... a lady known to Michaela and her husband who performed office organisation services Luis' firm and also provided some help in Romigen;
Luis Fxxxxxxx 969...a former colleague of Remax who are not relates;
Z� accounting 969... Jose Fxxxx, accountant for Remax who is related in professional terms;
Czech 967... mobile of the son of Mrs Lxxx who he has known for many years and working in England in health services; Dan 918... who takes care of Villa Liliana when there is nobody at home, lives in Praia da Luz;
Lili Bxxx 918... was manager of the Caixa Agr�cola in Praia da Luz, does not maintain relations with her;
Z� Fxxxxxx 917... man providing firewood;
Delfim 963... representative of Remax in Lagos who is related in professional term;
Posted by SteelMagnolia at 12:17 PM
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