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Concealed carry on School property? - Delaware Open Carry
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Concealed carry on School property?
#111986 by Duffer1954
Re: Concealed carry on School property?
#111992 by MrCoolDale
First and foremost, police are in no way an expert on law and should never be relied upon for legal advice.
Here's a link to the Delaware code covering this subject:
https://delcode.delaware.gov/title11/c005/sc07/
It is currently believed that CCDW holders are exempt from the safe school zone laws, but this has never been tested in court. So, we don't have a definitive ruling. Which means, consult a lawyer and proceed at your own risk.
Delaware Title 11: § 1457 Possession of a weapon in a Safe School and Recreation Zone; class D, E, or F felony; class A or B misdemeanor.
And it uses the following for how you will be charged:
However, according to § 1442:
§ 1442 Carrying a concealed deadly weapon; class G felony; class D felony.
A person is guilty of carrying a concealed deadly weapon when the person carries concealed a deadly weapon upon or about the person without a license to do so as provided by § 1441 of this title.
All of this boils down to carrying a firearm in a Safe School and Recreation Zone will land you a felony charge under § 1442. However, CCDW permit holders are exempt from § 1442, because the underlying charge is carrying a concealed deadly weapon without a permit to do so.
It's a weird grey area.
Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:19 pm
#112010 by josephjanes
Everything McCool Dale said is correct, and a good reading of Title 11, Sec. 1442 & 1441, and 1457. A CCDW license covers you driving past (within 1,00 feet of a 'Safe School Zone', both State and federal law, since Delaware requires a background check).
HOWEVER, most schools have a prohibition on carrying a weapon on school grounds, and therefore could ask you to leave, be escorted off the premises, or even arrested (potentially) for trespassing.
I am not a lawyer, but this is my read on these laws / situations.
#112023 by wayne15464
josephjanes wrote: Everything McCool Dale said is correct, and a good reading of Title 11, Sec. 1442 & 1441, and 1457. A CCDW license covers you driving past (within 1,00 feet of a 'Safe School Zone', both State and federal law, since Delaware requires a background check).
I am certainly no expert, or a lawyer, but I believe you should only be charged with trespassing if you do not leave, after being asked to.
Again, I could be totally incorrect, but this is my understanding.
Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:12 am
#112024 by MrCoolDale
Wayne, you are correct. You can only be charged with trespassing if you enter or tamper with property knowing you are not authorized to do so (if you had to bypass a lock, climb a gate, etc.), or remaining on the property after learning you don't have the right or permission to be there (being asked to leave, discovering "No Trespassing" signs, etc.)
#112029 by featuresprize
MrCoolDale wrote: Wayne, you are correct. You can only be charged with trespassing if you enter or tamper with property knowing you are not authorized to do so (if you had to bypass a lock, climb a gate, etc.), or remaining on the property after learning you don't have the right or permission to be there (being asked to leave, discovering "No Trespassing" signs, etc.)
This sounds logical to me, but do you have some proof (link to law page)
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#112030 by MrCoolDale
featuresprize wrote: This sounds logical to me, but do you have some proof (link to law page)
Here is the legal definition from USLegal.com:
https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/criminal-trespass/
USLegal.com wrote: Criminal trespass refers to an unlawfully entry by a person into a private property of another person without permission. Any person so entering the property without permission is held to have committed the offence of criminal trespass. Criminal trespass can occur when:
1. a person enters someone else’s property without permission; and
2. a person remains in the property.
Following is an example of a state statute (Utah) defining criminal trespass:
Pursuant to Utah Code Ann. § 76-6-206 criminal trespass means
“(1) As used in this section, "enter" means intrusion of the entire body.
(b) the actor's conduct did not substantially interfere with the owner's use of the property”.
#112031 by NCC