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April 4th, 2005 Trial Analysis: Jesus Salas (Direct & Cross Examination), Jason Francia (Direct & Cross Examination), Part 3 of 4 | Michael Jackson Vindication 2.0
April 4th, 2005 Trial Analysis: Jesus Salas (Direct & Cross Examination), Jason Francia (Direct & Cross Examination), Part 3 of 4
by sanemjfan Here is more damaging testimony to the prosecution: Salas testified that Janet Arvizo told him that Dieter Weisner and Roland Konitzer were “separating” her from Jackson, which is antithetical to the prosecution’s claims that Janet was forced to stay at Neverland:
22 Q. Let me get back to Janet Arvizo.
23 Didn’t she complain one time that she felt
24 Frank and Vinnie were separating her from Michael
26 A. I don’t recall her telling me that, no.
27 Q. Did she complain that Dieter and Ronald were
28 separating her from Michael Jackson? 4741
2 Q. She appeared not to like Dieter or Ronald at
3 all, right?
5 Q. When Janet and the children would arrive on
6 the property, were they given assistance in
7 transporting their luggage to their rooms?
9 Q. Who would help Janet transport her luggage
10 to her rooms?
11 A. Many times it was security, Neverland Valley
12 security, or myself.
13 Q. And would Janet pretty much tell you what to
14 carry from her car or however she got there?
16 Q. Who would assign the rooms to the Arvizos
17 when they visited and stayed at Neverland?
19 Q. And what would determine, for you, what room
20 to put them in?
21 A. It would depend. Many times we had some
22 other guests on the property. And if we have one
23 available, that was the only one that was going to
24 be for them. And many times I ask them, “Okay,
25 which room do you guys want to stay in?” So that’s
26 how I decided.
27 Q. Did anyone ever complain about the room that
28 they were placed in? 4742
1 A. No, not really.
2 Q. Did the kids ever complain?
4 Q. The rooms they were placed in, as far as
5 you’re concerned, were all beautiful rooms, weren’t
7 A. Yes, they are.
8 Q. They were cleaned every day, correct?
10 Q. And they had constant room service if they
11 wanted it, right?
12 A. That is correct. Yes.
13 Q. Mr. Jackson wanted them treated just as well
14 as any other guests, right?
Next, Salas was questioned again about his cooperation with law enforcement and the prosecution during their investigation of the case, and it’s very telling that they did not ask him whether or not he ever served the Arvizo boys alcohol, as that was a central part of their case. If they were conducting an honest investigation, they would want to cover their bases and explore all possibilities, including the possibility that Star and Gavin were served alcohol by Neverland staff:
18 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: How many times, Mr. Salas,
19 has the prosecution contacted you to talk to you
20 about the case?
21 A. A couple times.
22 Q. And how many times did you meet with
23 representatives of the sheriff’s department?
24 A. A couple times.
25 Q. They never asked you if you ever brought
26 nonalcoholic beverages for the Arvizo children, did
27 they? They never asked you that question, did they?
28 A. No, they didn’t. 4743
In this excerpt, Salas was asked to elaborate more on his earlier statements that Jackson was frustrated with Frank Cascio. It’s easy to see why Jackson would be upset with Frank!
1 Q. Now, I think you said that Michael Jackson
2 appeared frustrated at what Frank was doing on the
3 property from time to time, right?
5 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; misstates the
7 MR. MESEREAU: I don’t think it does, Your
10 “Yes.” Next question.
11 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Michael Jackson was
12 frustrated that Frank was bringing guests to
13 Neverland without him knowing about it, right?
15 Q. And how old was Frank at the time, do you
16 think?
17 A. I’m not sure how old was he. I will say he
18 was about, what, 35.
19 Q. Early twenties?
20 A. Somewhere around there, yes.
21 Q. To your knowledge, how was Frank able to
22 bring guests to the property without Michael Jackson
23 knowing about it?
24 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; foundation.
27 THE WITNESS: It was his own decision.
28 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: But what would Frank do, 4744
1 if you know, to bring guests onto the property
2 without Michael Jackson knowing about it?
3 A. What he would do there?
5 A. Just have fun at Neverland.
6 Q. Oh, no, excuse me. I didn’t state it
7 properly. It’s my mistake.
8 If Frank wanted to bring guests onto the
9 property without Michael Jackson knowing about it,
10 what would he do?
11 A. He would just call security and tell — let
12 security know that he had some guests coming in, or
13 tell me.
14 Q. Would he typically tell them that Michael
15 wants them visiting?
16 A. No, he never said that.
17 Q. He just said he wanted them to visit, right?
19 Q. Okay. And he would bring a number of female
20 guests from time to time, correct?
22 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; relevance.
23 THE COURT: Overruled. The answer is,
24 “Correct.”
25 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: In fact, he tried to bring
26 a lot of girls onto the property, didn’t he?
28 Q. He used to brag to them that he was a friend 4745
1 to Michael Jackson, right?
2 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection. Hearsay;
Here is his elaboration on his earlier testimony about Al Malnik and Jackson’s attorney Zia Modabber:
5 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Now, you mentioned someone
6 named Malnik visited the property one time, right?
8 Q. Did you speak to him?
9 A. Not in a conversation, no, I didn’t.
10 Q. You just saw him?
11 A. Just saw him, say hi. And that was it.
12 Q. The prosecutor mentioned someone named Zia,
14 A. That’s correct. That is correct.
15 Q. Did you see Zia on the property?
17 Q. Did you talk to him?
18 A. Just for a short time. Not —
19 Q. And Zia was, to your knowledge, Mr.
20 Jackson’s attorney, right?
22 Q. Did you see him there often?
23 A. No, I only saw him there a couple times.
24 Q. And what did you see him doing?
25 A. Just had a meeting with Mr. Jackson.
Here is more elaboration on Dieter Weisner and Ronald Konitzer , and Jackson’s life at Neverland. Salas’s testimony here was elicited by Mesereau to rebut the notion that Jackson ruled Neverland with an iron fist:
26 Q. Okay. You would see all kinds of people
27 visit from time to time to meet with Mr. Jackson,
28 right? 4746
2 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; vague.
3 MR. MESEREAU: I’ll rephrase.
4 Q. The prosecutor has limited his questions to
5 you to Dieter, Ronald, Frank. Mr. Jackson didn’t
6 spend all of his time meeting with these people, did
8 A. Not all the time, no.
9 Q. Mr. Jackson from time to time would have
10 numerous visitors to Neverland to see him, correct?
16 THE WITNESS: That is correct.
17 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: You would often see a full
18 schedule of people visiting Neverland to see Mr.
19 Jackson, right?
20 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; foundation.
23 THE WITNESS: That is correct.
24 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Do you recall Mr. Jackson
25 doing work in his studio at Neverland?
27 Q. And what do you recall seeing him doing?
28 A. Doing some recording. Dancing. Practicing. 4747
2 Q. Did you watch him practice dance?
4 Q. And how did you know he was practicing
5 dance? Would he tell you?
7 Q. And would he tell you not to let anyone in,
8 that he’s doing his creative work?
9 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; hearsay.
12 THE WITNESS: Because of his work, yes, he
13 did not want to be bothered, yes.
14 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Did you also see him
15 teaching kids how to dance from time to time?
16 A. I never saw that.
17 Q. Okay. How about in his recording studio,
18 would he bring kids and adults into his recording
19 studio to see it?
21 Q. And didn’t he used to show them how he does
22 his work in his recording studio?
24 Q. And sometimes he wanted to just be left
25 alone in there, right?
26 A. That is correct. Yes.
27 Q. And when he wanted to be left alone, he’d
28 spend hours and hours in there, right? 4748
1 A. That’s correct, yes.
2 Q. Okay. Now, you would see Mr. Jackson awake
3 on his property at all different hours, right?
5 Q. Sometimes he gets up at 3:00 in the morning,
6 doesn’t he?
7 A. That is correct, yes.
8 Q. And he will take walks alone on his
9 property, right?
11 Q. That’s how he does a lot of his composing,
14 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; foundation.
16 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: You’d also see Mr. Jackson
17 from time to time driving alone on his property,
20 Q. Would you know in advance if Mr. Jackson was
21 going to leave the property to go somewhere?
23 Q. And who would you — who would tell you that
24 Mr. Jackson was leaving the property?
25 A. Sometimes I found out about — by his
26 bodyguard.
27 Q. Okay. And what are some of the other ways
28 that you would find out Mr. Jackson might be either 4749
1 leaving the property or going out of town?
2 A. By Mr. Jackson.
3 Q. Okay. Did you speak to Mr. Jackson every
4 day when he was there?
5 A. Pretty much, yes.
6 Q. When he wasn’t there, who would you speak
8 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection. Ambiguous;
11 THE WITNESS: When he wasn’t there, well,
12 nobody is — the ranch manager.
13 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Let me ask you this: When
14 Mr. Jackson’s out of town, which you saw him do
15 quite often during your 20 years there, right?
17 Q. You saw him go on music tours, right?
19 Q. And you saw him travel to various cities in
20 America, right?
22 Q. And he would travel to various cities around
23 the world, right?
25 Q. When he’s not there, does the place pretty
26 much run the way it runs when he’s there?
27 A. It runs the same way.
28 Q. And that’s because there are various 4750
1 procedures in effect to make sure it runs properly,
3 A. That is correct, yes.
4 Q. When Mr. Jackson’s there, he’s not walking
5 around the property just running everything, is he?
7 Q. In fact, very often when he’s there, you
8 hardly see him, right?
10 Q. Because Mr. Jackson is doing his creative
11 work for hours and hours on end, right?
13 Q. So how does the place sort of run when he’s
14 not there? I mean, if you can explain it.
15 A. Because of the people in charge of running
16 the place, so we’ll — the place always running the
17 same, so — whether he’s there or not.
18 Q. And even if he’s there, you have to report
19 to other individuals to get information, don’t you?
21 Q. Okay. So when the prosecutor asked you
22 about your reporting directly to Michael Jackson,
23 you didn’t mean you’re talking to him all day about
24 what’s going on?
26 Q. And if you report to him on a given day, it
27 might be just one time, right?
28 A. That is correct, yes. 4751
Here are more questions about Frank Cascio:
1 Q. Okay. In response to the prosecutor’s
2 questions, you mentioned some things about Frank
3 saying he’ll take care of things, correct?
4 A. Correct, yes.
5 Q. But Frank also used to brag about how close
6 he was to Michael Jackson, didn’t he?
8 Q. You didn’t get the impression he was always
9 telling the truth, did you?
10 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; calls for a
13 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: You said, in response to
14 the prosecutor’s questions, that on occasion you
15 would see Frank and Michael Jackson together, right?
17 Q. But you also often saw Frank not around Mr.
18 Jackson, correct?
19 A. Oh, yes.
20 Q. And you often saw Mr. Jackson without Frank,
23 Q. And you didn’t really know what work Frank
24 was doing, correct?
26 Q. But from time to time, he would try and brag
27 that he was in the music business, right?
28 A. Correct. 4752
1 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; hearsay.
Here are more questions about security procedures:
3 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: I want to ask you a little
4 more about security at Neverland, okay? It’s about
5 2800 acres of property, right?
7 Q. Very spread out over hills, right?
9 Q. And it’s surrounded by these fences that you
10 said anybody could come in, right?
12 Q. You have a front gate that you have to stop
13 at if you’re driving in, right?
15 Q. And you have to push a button and identify
16 who you are, right?
18 Q. And people at that security gate typically
19 have a list of who’s supposed to be allowed in,
22 Q. And I think what you said is that Frank
23 would often call the people at that gate and say,
24 “Let so and so in,” right?
26 Q. Okay. Now, you did indicate there had been
27 efforts by people to drive and get onto the property
28 and find Mr. Jackson, right? 4753
2 Q. And you have some security guards who patrol
3 the property a bit, right?
5 Q. And they don’t have weapons, right?
7 Q. Because Michael Jackson doesn’t want weapons
8 on his property, right?
10 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection. Foundation;
13 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Do you know whether or not
14 Mr. Jackson has a policy that he doesn’t want
15 weapons on his property?
17 Q. And he’s typically very concerned about his
18 children’s safety, correct?
Mesereau moved on to the time period of February and March 2003, and questioned Salas about Jackson’s whereabouts during the time that the Arvizo family was at the ranch; this was an obvious response to Salas’ earlier assertion that Jackson was at Neverland “pretty much all the time”. Salas admitted that Jackson wasn’t there every day, and when he was there he was often preoccupied with other activities:
6 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Let’s take the year 2003.
7 There were periods of time you wouldn’t even see
8 Frank on the property, right?
9 A. There was some times, yes.
10 Q. And there are times you would also see him,
13 Q. There were times you would see Dieter on the
14 property, right?
16 Q. And there were times you wouldn’t see him at
17 all, right?
18 A. Correct. Yes.
19 Q. There were times you’d see Ron on the
20 property, correct?
22 Q. And there were times you wouldn’t see him at
23 all?
25 Q. And during this period of time, you had your
26 constant visitors on a daily basis to the property,
28 A. Yes. 4755
1 Q. You had many other people who had scheduled
2 meetings with Michael Jackson, right?
3 A. Right. Yes.
4 Q. And you also had your periodic tours of
5 children and adults to Neverland, right?
7 Q. You indicated that you think that Mr.
8 Jackson was at Neverland when the Arvizos visited in
11 Q. You’re not sure that he was there every day,
12 though, are you?
13 A. That is right, yes.
14 Q. If there were days he wasn’t there when the
15 Arvizos were there in 2003, you’re just not sure,
17 That’s a bad question. Let me — I don’t
18 think I could answer that one.
19 In 2003 when the Arvizos were at Neverland,
20 sometimes Michael Jackson was there and sometimes he
21 wasn’t, right?
22 A. That is correct. There was days that he was
23 not there, yes.
24 Q. There were times he was out of town, right?
26 Q. There were times he was gone from the
27 premises during the day, right?
28 A. That is correct, yes. 4756
1 Q. There were times he was in his studio,
4 Q. There were times he was doing his dance
5 routines, correct?
7 Q. There were times he was taking children
8 around Neverland on a tour, right?
10 Q. And there would be constant meetings of one
11 form or another involving Michael Jackson with other
12 people, correct?
Here are more questions about Jackson’s interactions with children, and the role he played in inviting underprivileged children to Neverland:
14 Q. Okay. The prosecutor asked you about
15 Michael Jackson playing with kids. Michael Jackson
16 plays with kids all the time at Neverland, doesn’t
18 A. Yes, he does.
19 Q. He often acts like a kid himself, doesn’t
20 he?
22 Q. And he takes pride particularly in bringing
23 inner city kids to Neverland to have fun, doesn’t
24 he?
25 A. Correct. Yes.
26 Q. We’re talking about kids from poverty, kids
27 from broken homes, right?
28 A. That is correct, yes. 4757
1 Q. He sometimes personally arranges those
2 visits himself, doesn’t he?
5 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Do you know whether or not
6 Michael Jackson sometimes personally arranges visits
7 by kids to Neverland?
9 Q. And typically when these busloads of kids
10 get to Neverland, they all want to see Michael
11 Jackson, right?
13 Q. And sometimes you schedule all these kids
14 and these adults to be at a certain location to wait
15 for Michael to come out and see them, right?
17 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: I’ll object as cumulative.
19 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Isn’t that true?
21 Q. And he would call you and arrange to have
22 toys available for all these kids when they would
23 visit, right?
25 Q. And you would typically have all the kids
26 assemble on the property, and staff would start
27 distributing toys to them, right?
28 A. That is correct, yes. 4758
1 Q. And very often in the middle of the toy
2 distribution, Michael comes out to see the kids,
4 A. On some occasion, yes.
5 Q. And you’ll see them running to Michael.
6 They want to see him; they want to touch him, right?
8 Q. The adults will do the same, correct?
10 Q. Now, the prosecutor asked you what these
11 children do at Neverland, and you talked about bike
12 riding.
14 Q. What did you mean by bike riding?
15 A. He’s got so many toys, they can just take
16 off on the quad-runners, scooters. That’s what I
17 meant.
18 Q. And you never got the impression Michael
19 Jackson was supervising the bike riding, did you?
21 Q. People on the property who worked for Mr.
22 Jackson take care of that, don’t they?
23 A. Especially security, yes.
24 Q. And also you expect the parents or the
25 adults in charge to have some responsibility, right?
27 Q. You talked about quads, okay. And what did
28 you mean by that? 4759
1 A. They have those four-wheelers that they can
2 go off, off the road. That’s —
3 Q. And they typically ride on the roads at
4 Neverland, right?
6 Q. And who supervises that, typically?
7 A. Oh, themself. Themselves or security.
8 Q. You have never thought Michael Jackson was
9 walking around supervising who got into those
10 vehicles, did you?
11 A. No, no.
12 Q. He doesn’t seem to supervise any of that,
13 does he?
14 A. No, he doesn’t.
15 Q. Okay. He assumes staff on the premises
16 will, right?
17 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection. Objection. No
18 foundation, as to what Mr. Jackson assumes. Calls
19 for speculation.
21 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: You told the prosecutor
22 that sometimes Michael Jackson would play with kids
23 on a daily basis, right?
25 Q. And you would see him playing with kids all
26 over the premises, right?
27 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; asked and
28 answered. 4760
2 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Did you see Michael
3 Jackson take these kids to the petting zoo?
5 Q. Did you see him take them to the bigger zoo?
7 Q. Did you see him take them to the arcade?
9 Q. Did you see him take them to the theater?
11 Q. How about ride with them on the train?
13 Q. Okay. This went on all the time, didn’t it?
In this excerpt, Mesereau questioned Salas about his statements of seeing Jackson intoxicated around children, despite the fact that he never saw Jackson actually drinking. Salas conceded that the symptoms he noticed could have been caused by Jackson’s prescription drugs, which he was taking to deal with his scalp and back injuries, as well as his lupus ailments:
15 Q. Now, the prosecutor asked you questions
16 about Mr. Jackson appearing intoxicated, okay?
18 Q. Now, you never saw him drinking, right?
19 A. No, I didn’t.
20 Q. And were you aware that there were times
21 when he had a prescription drug problem?
22 A. Yes, I — yes, I was.
23 Q. And he had gotten a lot of injections from
24 various physicians?
26 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; foundation.
28 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Did you know Michael 4761
1 Jackson had — excuse me, let me rephrase. Did you
2 know whether or not Mr. Jackson at various times had
3 a prescription drug problem?
5 Q. And did you know he was treated for that?
7 Q. When you saw him appearing intoxicated, you
8 don’t know what the cause was, correct?
10 Q. You knew he had suffered severe burns on his
11 body, didn’t you?
12 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection. Foundation;
15 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Did you know whether or
16 not, during one entertainment event, Mr. Jackson
17 suffered severe burns all over his body?
18 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Ob — I’ll —
20 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Did you know he was being
21 treated for that?
22 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; vague as to
26 not Mr. Jackson was being treated by physicians with
27 medication because he’d been badly burned?
28 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; vague as to 4762
2 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: At any time?
4 Q. That was common knowledge at Neverland, was
6 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: I’ll object and move to
7 strike the last answer. Still vague as to time.
9 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: During the year 2002, were
10 you aware — excuse me. During the year 2002, do
11 you know whether or not Michael Jackson was being
12 treated by various physicians for health problems?
13 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection. Vague as to
14 “health problems.”
17 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: I’ll object as to
19 THE COURT: The answer — the question calls
20 for a “yes” or “no” answer. You may answer.
22 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: And during the year 2002,
23 were you aware that Mr. Jackson —
24 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection to the form of
25 the question. “Were you aware” assumes facts.
26 THE COURT: You have to let him finish the
28 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: During the year 2002, were 4763
1 you aware — excuse me. During the year 2002, did
2 you know whether or not Mr. Jackson was taking
3 medications for a broken leg?
5 Q. During the year 2002, did you know whether
6 or not Mr. Jackson was taking medications for a foot
9 Q. And during the year 2002, did you know
10 whether or not Mr. Jackson had recurring problems
11 because he had been badly burned?
13 Q. During the year 2002, did you know whether
14 or not Mr. Jackson had back problems?
19 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: During the year 2003, did
20 you know whether or not Mr. Jackson was taking
21 prescription drugs for a leg problem?
22 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; foundation.
24 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Do you know whether or not
25 Mr. Jackson took prescription drugs in the year 2003
26 while you were working there?
28 THE COURT: Overruled. 4764
Salas was then questioned about the children who spent time in Jackson’s bedroom, and the alarm system outside of his bedroom:
2 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Do you recall seeing Mr.
3 Jackson’s children in his bedroom?
5 Q. They would be in there a lot during the time
6 you worked there, right?
8 Q. You would see his children at the lower
9 level, right?
11 Q. You would see them in his bedroom upstairs,
13 A. Correct, yes.
14 Q. Did you typically spend much time with Mr.
15 Jackson’s children?
16 A. I would say I didn’t spend too much time
17 with them because — but saw them, I mean, every day
18 there, yes.
19 Q. Every day?
21 Q. And you would mainly see them in the main
24 Q. Would you see them on the property also?
26 Q. But you saw them in his room quite often,
27 didn’t you?
28 A. Yes. 4765
1 Q. Do you know anything about an alarm system
2 that one has to use to get into Mr. Jackson’s
4 MR. AUCHINCLOSS: Objection; vague as to
5 “one has to use” an alarm system.
9 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: And have you set off that
10 alarm from time to time?
11 A. No, not really.
12 Q. Have you heard the alarm go off?
14 Q. Okay. Do you know much about that alarm
15 system?
16 A. I know about it, but I — you know, not —
17 didn’t get involved in that too much.
18 Q. It’s not something that you would typically
19 handle?
21 Q. Okay. Okay. Have you seen Mr. Jackson
22 entertain adults at his home in the evening?
24 Q. He does that quite often, doesn’t he?
26 Q. And when he does that, you often see adults
27 drinking alcohol, don’t you?
28 A. Right. 4766
1 Q. You see staff serving them alcohol, right?
3 Q. And they’re free to go into the kitchen area
4 and grab alcohol if they want to, typically, right?
6 Q. You’ve also seen them served alcohol in his
7 bedroom, correct?
9 Q. You’ve seen adults sitting in the lower
10 level of his bedroom drinking, right?
12 Q. And typically there would be an order placed
13 by someone, and staff will bring alcohol into his
14 bedroom for that purpose, right?
To be continued: https://michaeljacksonvindication2.wordpress.com/2012/11/25/april-4th-2005-trial-analysis-jesus-salas-direct-cross-examination-jason-francia-direct-cross-examination-part-4-of-4/
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nannorris permalink	November 20, 2012 10:12 pm	Once again , the questions the prosecutors ask, and the one they chose NOT to ask are very telling..They had to have known these kids were lying or they would have asked if the staff served alcohol to the minors , or what did they serve them? soda..thye didnt want to hear that answer.
In hindsight , Grank mentions that he used to have parties at Neverland and that he had his own key to the wine cellar etc.
I think Kiki Fornier mentioned that as well …
No surprise then , that he was inviting his friends to come party with him at Neverland and inviting girls to see MJ famous home..I bet he showed MJ private quarters also , so to me , there was lots of parties in MJ quarters , when he wasnt there.
I wonder if it dawned on the prosecutors that Frank was bring girls to MJ house to impress them ,and yet , wasnt he supposedly one of the people they were pressuring Jason Francia about in his police interview..That he was traveling with some kids that were in danger besides Mac?
So there was supposed to be all this illicit stuff going on,with MJ , and this guy is using the place to impress girls?
Wouldnt that be another example of being straight
Reply	lacienegasmiles permalink	November 21, 2012 10:03 pm	Wade Robson also brought his girlfriends to Neverland a few times.
Seems odd to want to bring your female romantic partners to a place where you’ve been molested, but I’m sure there’s some reasonable explanation for it besides the obvious.
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