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Sat, 29 Nov 2014 - 00:48
QUOTE (Fleagle @ Sat, 29 Nov 2014 - 00:05)
A similar thing has actually happened with my girlfriends car, after so many notices and appeals they now stop applying the PCN to her car even though she still parks with no permit.
With regards to the parking space we have a space which is numbered for our flat number and block name. They have been putting tickets on the car parked in this space. Now I got in touch with the leaseholder and requested a copy of the lease or at least the part detailing the parking situation but she out right refused. The only information we have is that of a contract agreement for our rental of the flat which states 1 parking space.
Sat, 29 Nov 2014 - 00:55
QUOTE (boro12856 @ Fri, 28 Nov 2014 - 23:16)
Wish I had a life..... Oh I do. If you'd have followed direction you wouldn't be back here now. Sorry, yes its a bore but alternatively you can ignore.
Sorry. forgot to attach. http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=87052
You can do a search for more threads on them.
Gan is the forums master scribe at succinct letters to these clowns. He may be passing at some point.
Sat, 29 Nov 2014 - 01:07
QUOTE (farmerboy @ Sat, 29 Nov 2014 - 00:55)
I didnt mean to cause offence from that statement, its late and im working the nightshift. It just all became so tedious we just started to ignore especially after all our appeals initially seemed to fall on deaf ears.
Sat, 29 Nov 2014 - 07:13
QUOTE (boro12856 @ Sat, 29 Nov 2014 - 01:07)
after all our appeals initially seemed to fall on deaf ears.
Their only income is often people paying these infernal things - they aren't going to give up easily... That's why they need a duffing at POPLA.
They are still unlikely to actually issue proceedings but out of all the PPC's out there this lot are the most likely to consider doing so going forwards - they seem to be trying just this is Scotland but haven't had much success. They have 6 years to do so.
Personally, I think a terse letter is required clearly setting out your position - they tend to pick on easier targets as actually taking people to court generally is a lot of effort and can be loss making.
This post has been edited by Jlc: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 - 07:14
Thu, 8 Jan 2015 - 21:06
Some further advice is sought after, I managed to write a response to SCS who have obviously referred everything back to DRP and we received a letter from them today in relation to 7 references of parking charge notices.
What really made me laugh was the comment about Internet templates my response was that I would not be entering any payments to them as I believe I haven't entered any contract with them.
I have attached the letter, if anyone can help be greatly appreciated.
Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 07:31
Its known as a loop. One computer does not know what to do so send a ping to another computer which sends out a letter.
Send a letter to DRP to refer it back to their client and not to bother you again.
See how many loops they go through before someone switches the damm thing off.
Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 08:31
Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 09:59
Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 10:04
QUOTE (emanresu @ Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 07:31)
What sort of letter should I be sending back? Just a blunt I will not be paying please inform UKPC that I do not wish to pay said charges? Or go more in depth?
Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 10:38
Have a search on here for Gans letters on "debt denied"
They are short, sweet and to the point. Get one, tailor to your situation, and do NOT embellish it. They are concise to avoid the chance of the DR people using your words against you, to confuse or confabulate the position to keep engaging with them.
There are plenty of examples - get Gans user name and click on their posts, you will see plenty of examples/. Post a draft here.
Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 10:48
It may be better to do the "debt is denied but.. letter"
Your client obviously thinks I owe them some money. I do not.
If your client wishes to press a claim he may do so but prior to that I wish to have the following information
In the alternative, should you or your client or any of your clients agent continue to write to me, I will happily reply at the cost of £100 per letter. Acceptance will be by performance.
Hat tip to ST for the content. This letter simply highlights that they can do 1 of 2 things. Go to court when they would need to show the information above anyway. Or continue to write to you at £100 per letter. (I think the current record for stupidity for a PPC to continue to reply is about £1400 but there have been a few lesser amounts)
It would also be an ideal opportunity to present to court the findings of UKPC's own criminal conviction for a false and misleading appeals system. I am sure their current appeals system is in no way false and misleading - or in anyway criminal.
Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 12:08
QUOTE (emanresu @ Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 09:59)
Increase doesn't mean they will of course - as above I think it's worth parking (pardon the pun) the matter back to them. The chance of them actually issuing a claim is still small. Indeed, it might be even worth a 'pop' just raising a claim to see if the OP pays up rather than fight the matter - they may not seriously intend to see the inside of a court room.
Persecuting people in regards to their own spaces is about as low as private parking gets.
Fri, 9 Jan 2015 - 12:14
Thanks for the advice, will send a letter back to them today.
Thu, 29 Oct 2015 - 21:22
So after last time I responded to both the 'solicitors' letter and DRP, however today we received five seperate letters from DRP titled 'Letter before referral for legal action'.
The references are all previously used references on the letter I received last time from DRP and I did respond saying about charging them for any future letters so I am just after some advice on how to respond to these five letters Daniel Tomkins who has now taken over as the collections manager from Graham.
Also just as an update, we have now moved from the flat and live in a house with a garage which is great but also I know from speaking to the management agency who owned the flat complex that they seized all contracts with UKPC due to on going issues, shall I use this as reference too?
Fri, 30 Oct 2015 - 05:53
Confuse the computer by not replying and filing the paperwork
Fri, 30 Oct 2015 - 10:26
INdeedd. File and ignore DRP
Letter before action - something saying court action WILL happen in X days - then come back here
Real court papers from Nottingham - come back here.
Fri, 30 Oct 2015 - 10:30
QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Fri, 30 Oct 2015 - 10:26)
Has Robin Hood invaded Northampton then?
Mon, 20 Aug 2018 - 17:30
Hi everyone, so its been a while but I am back again. My partner received this letter last week which we have now gotten added to our previous letter THREE more claims. However my first notice, is that all the reference numbers have changed and they hold no comparison to the original claim references.
I have been doing plenty of reading but my brain is frazzled today. I have begun to draft a letter however using some information and wording from other posts on here and MSE and I have this. Is this ok, or too much? Would appreciate feedback.
UKPC issued me with parking charge notices dated ..... which were unfairly and unlawfully issued. I will not be paying your demand for payment for the following reasons:
1. Quite simply, the parking attendant got it wrong and the vehicle was not parked inappropriately at the time the ticket was issued, the claim states that the vehicle was 'parked for longer than allowed' how can this be determined? The vehicle left the premises to my knowledge everyday and returned and parked again. There is no stipulation of returning vehicles cannot park in the same bay within a certain timeframe. So as stated the vehicle was indeed not parked 'for longer than the allowed time'.
2. The charges are disproportionate and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss
The amount being charged is not based upon any genuine pre-estimate of loss to UKPC or the landowner, and far exceeds any costs incurred. Furthermore, I fail to understand how UKPC or the landowners have faced any loss by the driver being parked in their own designated space. The car park can only be accessed with an electronic key fob and permits are provided to prevent non-residents entering and parking in the car park; not for UKPC to generate an income from residents parked in their own spaces! Please provide me with an exact breakdown of the charges you are claiming and how you reached these figures, because they are completely excessive.
3. There is insufficient evidence to prove that I, as the registered keeper, am liable for these charges
Your client has failed to provide me with proof that a contract was in place with the landowner/managing agent at the time of the parking tickets. Regardless of this, tenants are not a party to this and no contract was ever signed to reflect this. Please provide: written confirmation from the managing agents that the landlord agreed to these charges, written confirmation from the landlord that he/she agreed to these charges, written confirmation from the landlord that he/she agreed to court action.
4. Finally, if you choose to pursue me please be aware that I have sought legal advice and will not enter into any further correspondence. This will be the only letter you will receive from me until you answer the specific points raised in my letter. Should this be pursued, I will be seeking compensation for the distress your harassment is causing, as well as claiming for the amount of my time that you have consumed with the ridiculous claims your client is making.
Please note that I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner, as well as complaining in writing to my MP and ensuring that they are appraised of the debate where Parliament agreed unanimously: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists should not have to put up with this. I am fully aware that your client was recently banned from the DVLA (for the second time), for the unlawful and fraudulent issuing of parking tickets. Even going to the extent of creating false photos and evidence. I'm shocked that any legitimate law firm would willingly represent a company like this; frankly it should be embarrassing for you to do so.
To summarise, should you choose to pursue this, I will require the following information for my case (in addition to my requests in above):
1. A full explanation of the cause of action
Mon, 20 Aug 2018 - 18:08
I think you can ask for more than that. You could, for example, try something like this...
If your client wishes to continue its attempt to recover the alleged parking charge, it will need to establish its right to the money through the County Court.
Before taking court action against me, however, in accordance with The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims as made by the Master of the Rolls as Head of Civil Justice, your client must send me a letter of claim.
The purpose of The Pre-Action Protocol is to give both your client and myself an opportunity to narrow the issues between us. That being so, after the letter of claim has been sent, your client must give me a window of time in which to respond to the letter and to request information and documents from it.
If your client would like me to reconsider my position before we get to that stage, it may wish to provide now the information and documents, which I shall otherwise request later, so that we can attempt to narrow the issues between us now. If so, please arrange for your client to send me the following:-
Of course, I am sure that, like me, your client has great respect for the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims and, particularly, its aims as expressed in its paragraph 2. In these circumstances, I am sure that your client would like to narrow and, if at all possible, resolve the issues between us by providing the information and documents requested above at the earliest possible opportunity.
This post has been edited by Eljayjay: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 - 18:11
Tue, 21 Aug 2018 - 09:44
Thanks for that Eljayjay, however the letter my other half has received is the LBC, so im a little confused by the first part of your reply. I will amend the latter half of my reply and include some more sections of requests that you have added.