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Justia Dockets & Filings Ninth Circuit California California Northern District Court Petroliam Nasional Berhad v. GoDaddy.com, Inc. Filing 135
Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page1 of 50 EXHIBIT A Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page2 of 50 1 PERRY R. CLARK, State Bar No. 197101 LAW OFFICES OF PERRY R. CLARK 2 825 San Antonio Road Palo Alto, CA 94303 3 Telephone: (650) 248-5817 Facsimile: (650) 248-5816 4 perry@perryclarklaw.com 5 Attorney for Plaintiff PETROLIAM NASIONAL BERHAD (PETRONAS) 6 7 8 9 10 11 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA OAKLAND DIVISION 12 13 PETROLIAM NASIONAL BERHAD (PETRONAS), 14 Plaintiff, 15 16 vs. 17 GODADDY.COM, INC., 18 19 20 21 Defendant. ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) CASE NO: 09-CV-5939 PJH Noticed Hearing Date: December 7, 2011 Noticed Hearing Time: 9:00 a.m. PUBLIC VERSION PLAINTIFF’S APPENDIX OF FED. R. CIV. P. 56(C)(1)(A) MATERIALS IN SUPPORT OF MOTION FOR PARTIAL SUMMARY JUDGMENT 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 PLAINTIFF’S APPENDIX OF FED. R. CIV. P. 56(C)(1)(A) MATERIALS Case No: 09-CV-5939 PJH Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 1 Filed11/09/11 Page3 of 50 Plaintiff Petroliam Nasional Berhad (Petronas) submits this Appendix of Fed. R. Civ. P. 2 56(c)(1)(A) Materials In Support Of Motion For Partial Summary Judgment to facilitate the 3 placement of materials into the record that support its factual positions. Plaintiff is submitting 4 this appendix voluntarily as contemplated by the Committee Notes accompanying the 2010 5 Amendment to Fed. R. Civ. R. Civ. P. 56, Subdivision (c)(1)(A), and to make use of the 6 suggestion therein that “[p]ointing to a specific location in an appendix satisfies the citation 7 requirement” of Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(c). 8 9 10 The each page in this appendix has been number from APP001 to APP204 and Petronas cites to specific location in this appendix by use of these page numbers. Dated: November 2, 2011 LAW OFFICES OF PERRY R. CLARK 11 12 13 14 By: 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 -1PLAINTIFF’S APPENDIX OF FED. R. CIV. P. 56(C)(1)(A) MATERIALS Case No: 09-CV-5939 PJH /s/ Perry R. Clark . Perry R. Clark Attorney for Plaintiff PETROLIAM NASIONAL BERHAD (PETRONAS) Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page4 of 50 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA OAKLAND DIVISION PETROLIAM NASIONAL BERHAD (PETRONAS), Plaintiff, CASE NO. 09-CV-5939PJH vs. GODADDY.COM, INC., Defendant. _____________________________/ ::: CONFIDENTIAL ::: 30(b)(6) DEPOSITION OF RONALD HERTZ DATE: Thursday, October 13, 2011 TIME: 12:05 p.m. LOCATION: BALLARD SPAHR, LLP 1 East Washington Street, Suite 2300 Phoenix, Arizona 85004 REPORTED BY: JANICE HARRINGTON, RPR, CRR, CLR AZ Certified Court Reporter No. 50844 Registered Professional Reporter Certified Realtime Reporter Certified LiveNote Reporter MBreporting 111 Deerwood Road, Suite 200 San Ramon, California 94583 APP001 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page5 of 50 Page 2 1 ::: APPEARANCES ::: 2 3 4 5 6 FOR PETROLIAM NASIONAL BERHAD (PETRONAS) PLAINTIFF: Law Offices of Perry R. Clark By: Perry R. Clark, Attorney At Law 825 San Antonio Road Palo Alto, California 94303 (650) 248-5817 perry@perryclarklaw.com 7 8 9 10 11 12 FOR GODADDY.COM, INC., DEFENDANT: Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati By: Tonia Ouellette Klausner, Attorney At Law 1301 Avenue of the Americas, 40th Floor New York, New York 10019-6022 (212) 497-7706 tklausner@wsgr.com 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APP002 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page6 of 50 Page 3 1 ::: INDEX OF EXAMINATIONS ::: 2 EXAMINATION BY: PAGE 3 MR. CLARK 5, 14 4 MS. KLAUSNER 14 5 6 7 8 ::: INDEX OF REQUESTS ::: 9 PAGE LINE REQUEST 10 11 None 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APP003 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page7 of 50 Page 4 1 ::: INDEX OF EXHIBITS ::: 2 NUMBER DESCRIPTION PAGE 3 30 Document, Bates No. GD-00251-002607 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APP004 11 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page8 of 50 Page 5 1 RONALD HERTZ 2 being duly sworn by the Certified Shorthand Reporter 3 to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but 4 the truth, testified as follows: 5 EXAMINATION BY MR. CLARK 6 Q. Okay. Good afternoon. My name is Perry 7 Clark. I'm a lawyer for the plaintiff in this case, 8 Petroliam Nasional Berhad who I will refer to as 9 Petronas. 10 MS. KLAUSNER: And I'm Tonia Klausner. 11 I'm here on behalf of Go Daddy. 12 BY MR. CLARK: 13 14 Q. Okay. Could you please state your name for the record, please? 15 A. Ronald Hertz. 16 Q. Okay. 17 A. I do. 18 Q. What is your current job title? 19 A. Vice President and Corporate Controller. 20 Q. How long have you had that title? 21 A. Approximately two years. 22 Q. And were you working for Go Daddy before 23 And you work for Go Daddy? you were Vice President? 24 A. I was. 25 Q. And what was your job title then? APP005 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page9 of 50 Page 6 1 A. Corporate Controller. 2 Q. How long have you worked for Go Daddy? 3 A. Little over nine years. 4 Q. All right. 5 in front of you. 6 at Exhibit 1, please. 7 there's a numbered paragraph 18 towards the top of 8 that page. So we have a pile of exhibits Could you go ahead and take a look If you could turn to page 9, Do you see paragraph 18? 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. It says, "Go Daddy's business operations 11 and financial information to which Go Daddy refers in 12 its initial disclosure is dated July 15, 2010." 13 you see that? 14 A. Yes. 15 Q. Do And do you understand you have been 16 designated as Go Daddy's representative to testify on 17 that topic? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. Okay. 20 general -- okay. 21 you might be giving a deposition in this case? So can you tell me I guess in When were you first informed that 22 A. Approximately two weeks ago. 23 Q. Okay. 24 A. Nima Kelly. 25 Q. Okay. And who was it? Who informed you? And what have you done to prepare APP006 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page10 of 50 Page 7 1 for your deposition? 2 MS. KLAUSNER: And I'll caution the 3 witness not to disclose any conversations you might 4 have had with attorneys. 5 THE WITNESS: I met with counsel and 6 reviewed a couple of documents. 7 BY MR. CLARK: 8 Q. When did you meet with counsel? 9 A. With outside counsel yesterday. 10 Q. Okay. 11 Did you do anything else to prepare for your deposition? 12 A. I did not. 13 Q. Okay. You said you reviewed some 14 documents. Did you review all the documents that you 15 reviewed during your meeting with outside counsel? 16 A. No, I did not. 17 Q. Okay. You reviewed some documents 18 outside of the time that you met with your counsel, 19 correct? 20 A. That is correct. 21 Q. All right. 22 23 24 25 Do you recall what documents you reviewed outside of your meeting with counsel? A. Yes. I reviewed the Registrar-Registry Agreement with VeriSign. Q. Any others? APP007 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page11 of 50 Page 12 1 A. To the best of my knowledge, yes. 2 Q. Do you know if this Registry-Registrar 3 relates in any way to Go Daddy's domain name 4 forwarding service? 5 MS. KLAUSNER: 6 THE WITNESS: Object to the form. Can you explain what you 7 mean by "relates in any way"? 8 BY MR. CLARK: 9 Q. Does Go Daddy have any obligations 10 arising from the .NET Registry-Registrar that relate 11 to the conduct of its domain name forwarding service? 12 MS. KLAUSNER: 13 THE WITNESS: 14 Can you restate the question please? 15 Object to the form. BY MR. CLARK: 16 Q. Sure. I'm just getting at, does the .NET 17 Registry-Registrar Agreement govern any of Go Daddy's 18 conduct with respect to providing its domain name 19 forwarding service to Go Daddy's customers? 20 21 22 A. I'm not sure what you mean by governing its conduct. Q. So can you explain in general what Go 23 Daddy's obligations are under the .NET 24 Registrar-Registry Agreement? 25 A. My understanding of the agreement is it APP008 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page12 of 50 Page 13 1 sets out the guidelines between Go Daddy and VeriSign 2 in registering .NET domain names. 3 Q. Does Go Daddy's domain name forwarding 4 service relate to the registration of .NET domain 5 names? 6 A. I'm not sure I understand the question. 7 Q. Is Go Daddy's domain name forwarding 8 service part of its activity with respect to 9 registering .NET domain names? 10 A. I don't believe the forwarding service 11 relates at all to the registration of the domain 12 name. 13 Q. Okay. Just changing gears a little bit, 14 topic 20 relates to an insurance agreement, and you 15 mentioned an E and O insurance agreement. 16 agreement made in connection with the Hiscox 17 insurance agency? 18 A. Hiscox is the insurance provider. 19 Q. Okay. 20 Is that an Is that agreement still in effect? Or I'm sorry, is that policy still in effect? 21 A. It is not. 22 Q. Has Go Daddy made a claim related to this 23 case under any insurance policy other than the Hiscox 24 insurance policy? 25 A. Not that I'm aware of. APP009 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Filed11/09/11 Page13 of 50 JOHN L. SLAFSKY, State Bar No. 195513 DAVID L. LANSKY, State Bar No. 199952 HOLLIS BETH HIRE, State Bar No. 203651 WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI Professional Corporation 650 Page Mill Road Palo Alto, CA 94304-1050 Telephone: (650) 493-9300 Facsimile: (650) 493-6811 jslafsky@wsgr.com dlansky@wsgr.com hhire@wsgr.com Attorneys for Defendant / Counterclaimant GODADDY.COM, INC. 9 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 10 NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 11 12 PETROLIAM NASIONAL BERHAD, 13 Plaintiff, 14 vs. 15 GODADDY.COM, INC., 16 Defendant. 17 18 GODADDY.COM, INC., 19 20 21 22 Counterclaimant, vs. PETROLIAM NASIONAL BERHAD, Counterclaim Defendant. 23 ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) CASE NO.: 09-CV-5939 PJH GO DADDY’S RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFF’S THIRD SET OF INTERROGATORIES (NOS. 21-25) 24 25 26 27 28 GO DADDY’S RESPONSE TO THIRD SET OF INTERROGATORIES (NOS. 21-25) Case No: 09-CV-5939 PJH 4534112_2.DOCX APP010 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 1 Filed11/09/11 Page14 of 50 Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 33, Defendant / Counterclaimant 2 GoDaddy.com, Inc. (“Go Daddy”), by and through its undersigned counsel, hereby responds to 3 the Third Set of Interrogatories (“Requests”) by Plaintiff / Counterclaim Defendant Petroliam 4 Nasional Berhad (“Plaintiff” or “Petronas”). 5 No admissions of any nature whatsoever are implied by, or should be inferred from, these 6 Responses. Each of these Responses is based on Go Daddy’s understanding of each individual 7 interrogatory and, to the extent that Plaintiff asserts an interpretation of any interrogatory that is 8 inconsistent with that understanding, Go Daddy reserves the right to supplement these 9 Responses. 10 11 GENERAL OBJECTIONS Go Daddy makes the following general objections, whether or not separately set forth in 12 response to each interrogatory. Although Go Daddy may repeat some of these general objections 13 in a specific response because they are particularly applicable, such specific citations are not to 14 be construed as a waiver of any other general objections applicable to the interrogatory. These 15 general objections are incorporated in each response to each interrogatory as if fully set forth in 16 each of the individual responses below. 17 GENERAL OBJECTION NO. 1: 18 Go Daddy objects to the Requests, and to each and every individual interrogatory, to the 19 extent they seek information protected by the attorney-client privilege, work product doctrine, 20 and/or any other applicable privilege or protection. Without prejudice to this objection, Go Daddy 21 will provide responses to the Requests to the extent that such responses do not waive such 22 privileges or protections. 23 GENERAL OBJECTION NO. 2: 24 All responses to the Requests are based upon the information presently known to Go 25 Daddy and are given without prejudice to Go Daddy’s right to adduce evidence discovered or 26 analyzed subsequent to the date of these responses. Go Daddy expressly reserves the right to 27 revise and supplement its responses to the Requests. 28 GO DADDY’S RESPONSE TO THIRD SET OF INTERROGATORIES (NOS. 21-25) Case No: 09-CV-5939 PJH ~2~ APP011 4534112_2.DOCX Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 1 2 Filed11/09/11 Page15 of 50 GENERAL OBJECTION NO. 3: Go Daddy objects to the Requests, and to each and every individual interrogatory, to the 3 extent they seek information outside of Go Daddy’s possession, custody, or control, on the 4 grounds that any such request is overbroad and unduly burdensome, seeks to impose discovery 5 obligations in excess of those imposed by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, and would subject 6 Go Daddy to unreasonable annoyance, burden, and expense. 7 GENERAL OBJECTION NO. 4: 8 9 Go Daddy objects to the Requests, and to each and every individual interrogatory, as unduly burdensome, oppressive and in violation of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure to the 10 extent they purport to require Go Daddy to respond on behalf of, or conduct any inquiry or 11 investigation with respect to, any party other than Go Daddy. Go Daddy will only answer the 12 request on its own behalf. 13 GENERAL OBJECTION NO. 5: 14 Go Daddy objects to the Requests to the extent that they seek information that is neither 15 relevant, admissible, nor reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence, 16 and to the extent that they require Go Daddy to make legal conclusions. 17 GENERAL OBJECTION NO. 6: 18 Go Daddy objects to the Requests, and to each and every individual interrogatory, as 19 overbroad and unduly burdensome to the extent they do not include a limitation or proposed 20 definition of a relevant time period. 21 GENERAL OBJECTION NO. 7: 22 Go Daddy objects to the Requests, and to each and every individual interrogatory, to the 23 extent they are not consistent with or do not meet the requirements of Federal Rules of Civil 24 Procedure. Go Daddy’s agreement to endeavor to answer the Requests, and each and every 25 individual interrogatory, is not, and should not be construed as, Go Daddy’s waiver of its right to 26 object to these or any other requests as violative of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. 27 GENERAL OBJECTION NO. 8: 28 Go Daddy objects to the Requests, and to each and every individual interrogatory GO DADDY’S RESPONSE TO THIRD SET OF INTERROGATORIES (NOS. 21-25) Case No: 09-CV-5939 PJH ~3~ APP012 4534112_2.DOCX Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page16 of 50 1 contained therein, to the extent they seek information related to experts. Go Daddy will provide 2 information related to experts consistent with the Court’s schedule for expert discovery. 3 GENERAL OBJECTION NO. 9: 4 Go Daddy specifically reserves all objections as to the competence, relevancy, materiality, 5 and admissibility of its documents and interrogatory responses or the subject matter thereof, and 6 all rights to object on any ground to the use of any document or interrogatory response, or the 7 subject matter thereof, in any subsequent proceeding, including without limitation the trial of this 8 or any action. Go Daddy’s Responses are made expressly subject to, and without in any manner 9 waiving, any and all objections to the competency, relevance, materiality and/or admissibility of 10 any of the matters encompassed in the following Responses. 11 SPECIFIC RESPONSES AND OBJECTIONS 12 Go Daddy expressly incorporates the above General Objections as though set forth fully in 13 response to each of the following individual interrogatories and, to the extent they are not raised in 14 any particular response, Go Daddy does not waive those objections. An answer to an 15 interrogatory shall not be deemed a waiver of any applicable specific or general objection. 16 Likewise, an answer to an interrogatory shall not be deemed an admission of any assertions 17 contained in that interrogatory. 18 INTERROGATORY NO. 21: 19 Please describe in detail the services provided by GoDaddy related to the disputed 20 domain names, including technical aspects of routing/forwarding the disputed domain names. 21 RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORY NO. 21: 22 In addition to the General Objections, Go Daddy objects to this interrogatory on the 23 grounds that it is cumulative, overbroad and harassing, vague, ambiguous and unintelligible, 24 particularly with respect to the phrase “services provided by GoDaddy related to the disputed 25 domain names...”. 26 Subject to and without waving the foregoing objections, Go Daddy responds as follows: 27 Since April 1, 2007, Go Daddy has served as the registrar for the domain names 28 “petronastower.net” and “petronastowers.net.” As part of its registrar services, Go Daddy GO DADDY’S RESPONSE TO THIRD SET OF INTERROGATORIES (NOS. 21-25) Case No: 09-CV-5939 PJH ~4~ APP013 4534112_2.DOCX Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page17 of 50 1 provided routing services, pointing the domain names to the name servers or websites of the 2 registrant’s choosing. At times, Go Daddy routed or “forwarded” the domain names to a pre- 3 existing website, automatically at the request of the domain name registrant. Further information 4 concerning the services provided by Go Daddy to the domain names can be found at GD- 5 000293; GD-000298; GD-000361—GD-000362; GD-000366; GD-000384—GD-000392; GD- 6 000560—GD-000563 of Go Daddy’s production. Go Daddy transferred the petronastower.net 7 domain name to counsel for Petronas, Perry Clark, on May 18, 2010. Go Daddy transferred the 8 petronastowers.net domain name to Clark on August 30, 2010. For additional details regarding 9 the technical aspects of the services provided, see the Expert Report of Michael Palage, served 10 on Petronas on October 3, 2011. 11 INTERROGATORY NO. 22: 12 Please describe in detail the information GoDaddy has in its possession regarding David 13 Daash and the “registration and use of the disputed domain names; hosting of destination 14 website; destination website content,” to which GoDaddy refers in its supplemental initial 15 disclosures dated June 29, 2011, including when GoDaddy became aware that David Daash was 16 the registrant of one or both of the disputed domain names and any changes to the Whois record 17 related thereto. 18 RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORY NO. 22: 19 Subject to and without waving the foregoing objections, Go Daddy responds as follows: 20 The contact audit history possessed by Go Daddy for domain name “petronastower.net” 21 indicates that at the time petronastower.net was transferred to Go Daddy on April 1, 2007, Heiko 22 Schoenekess was the registrant. The registrant of petronastower.net was changed by the account 23 holder to David Daash on April 1, 2007. On July 2, 2009 the registrant was changed by the 24 account holder back to Heiko Schoenekess. On December 12, 2009, the registrant of 25 “petronastower.net” was changed by the account holder to David Daash, and again back to Heiko 26 Schoenekess on the very same date. The contact audit history relating to David Daash and 27 petronastower.net, including Daash’s listed registrant contact information, can be found at GD- 28 000151—GD-000152 of Go Daddy’s production. A copy of the results of a Whois search for GO DADDY’S RESPONSE TO THIRD SET OF INTERROGATORIES (NOS. 21-25) Case No: 09-CV-5939 PJH ~5~ APP014 4534112_2.DOCX Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page18 of 50 1 petronastower.net from December 21, 2009—listing David Daash as the registrant—can also be 2 found at GD-000618—GD-000619 of Go Daddy’s production. 3 The contact audit history possessed by Go Daddy for domain name “petronastowers.net” 4 indicates that at the time petronastowers.net was transferred to Go Daddy on April 1, 2007, 5 Heiko Schoenekess was the registrant. The registrant of petronastowers.net was changed by the 6 account holder to David Daash on April 1, 2007. On July 2, 2009 the registrant was changed by 7 the account holder back to Heiko Schoenekess. The contact audit history relating to David 8 Daash and petronastowers.net, including Daash’s listed registrant contact information, can be 9 found at GD-000109—GD-000110 of Go Daddy’s production. 10 11 INTERROGATORY NO. 23: Please describe in detail the information GoDaddy has in its possession regarding Bruno 12 Zehnder and the “hosting of destination website and destination website content” to which 13 GoDaddy refers in its supplemental initial disclosures dated June 29, 2011. 14 RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORY NO. 23: 15 Subject to and without waving the foregoing objections, Go Daddy responds as follows: 16 On December 21, 2009, a search was performed in the Whois database to determine the 17 domain name and contact information for the registrant of the domain name “visit-x.net”—the 18 “destination website” to which “petronastower.net” had been directed as of December 21, 2009. 19 The Whois search results indicate Bruno Zehnder to be the registrant of “visit-x.net.” Further 20 information concerning this search, as well as a copy of the search results, can be found at GD- 21 001593—GD-001603 of Go Daddy’s production. 22 INTERROGATORY NO. 24: 23 Please describe in detail GoDaddy’s services for “External Domains” to which GoDaddy 24 refers in the document produced with production PET GD 2469 (attached hereto as Exhibit A), 25 including the technical aspects of such services and the differences, if any, between those 26 services and the “routing/forwarding the disputed domain names” to which GoDaddy refers in its 27 supplemental initial disclosures dated June 29, 2011 and by identifying all persons with 28 knowledge of the foregoing and by describing all documents related to the foregoing. GO DADDY’S RESPONSE TO THIRD SET OF INTERROGATORIES (NOS. 21-25) Case No: 09-CV-5939 PJH ~6~ APP015 4534112_2.DOCX Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 1 2 Filed11/09/11 Page19 of 50 RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORY NO. 24: In addition to the General Objections, Go Daddy objects to this interrogatory on the 3 grounds that it is cumulative, overbroad and harassing, vague, ambiguous and unintelligible, 4 particularly with respect to the phrase “services provided by GoDaddy related to the disputed 5 domain names...”. 6 Subject to and without waving the foregoing objections, Go Daddy responds as follows: 7 The reference to “External Domains” in the document Bates-numbered PET GD 2469 8 indicates that Go Daddy hosting customers can have traffic routed to Go Daddy-hosted websites 9 from domains registered elsewhere (not with Go Daddy) (“external domains”). Such routing is 10 the same as “routing/forwarding” as referenced in Go Daddy’s supplemental initial disclosures. 11 Go Daddy does not provide any services for the external domains themselves. 12 13 14 Persons with relevant knowledge include Jeff Munson and John Roling. INTERROGATORY NO. 25: Please state when GoDaddy first began providing the domain name forwarding service to 15 which it refers in Paragraph 29 of its Amended Answer June 20, 2011 to any customer and 16 identify all persons with knowledge of the foregoing and describe all documents related to the 17 foregoing. 18 RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORY NO. 25: 19 20 In addition to the General Objections, Go Daddy objects to this interrogatory on the grounds that it is overbroad and harassing. 21 Subject to and without waving the foregoing objections, Go Daddy responds as follows: 22 Go Daddy first began providing domain name forwarding services on April 3, 2001. 23 Persons with relevant knowledge include George Kearns 24 25 Dated: October 19, 2011 WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI Professional Corporation 26 By: 27 . John L. Slafsky David L. Lansky Hollis Beth Hire 28 GO DADDY’S RESPONSE TO THIRD SET OF INTERROGATORIES (NOS. 21-25) Case No: 09-CV-5939 PJH ~7~ APP016 4534112_2.DOCX Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 APP017 Filed11/09/11 Page20 of 50 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page21 of 50 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA OAKLAND DIVISION PETROLIAM NASIONAL BERHAD (PETRONAS), Plaintiff, CASE NO. 09-CV-5939PJH vs. GODADDY.COM, INC., Defendant. _____________________________/ ::: CONFIDENTIAL ::: 30(b)(6) DEPOSITION OF LAURIE ANDERSON DATE: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 TIME: 8:54 a.m. LOCATION: BALLARD SPAHR, LLP 1 East Washington Street, Suite 2300 Phoenix, Arizona 85004 REPORTED BY: JANICE HARRINGTON, RPR, CRR, CLR AZ Certified Court Reporter No. 50844 Registered Professional Reporter Certified Realtime Reporter Certified LiveNote Reporter MBreporting 111 Deerwood Road, Suite 200 San Ramon, California 94583 APP018 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page22 of 50 Page 2 1 ::: APPEARANCES ::: 2 3 4 5 6 FOR PETROLIAM NASIONAL BERHAD (PETRONAS) PLAINTIFF: Law Offices of Perry R. Clark By: Perry R. Clark, Attorney At Law 825 San Antonio Road Palo Alto, California 94303 (650) 248-5817 perry@perryclarklaw.com 7 8 9 10 11 FOR GODADDY.COM, INC., DEFENDANT: Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati By: David L. Lansky, Attorney At Law 650 Page Mill Road Palo Alto, California 94304-1050 (650) 320-4776 dlansky@wsgr.com: 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APP019 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page23 of 50 Page 3 1 ::: INDEX OF EXAMINATIONS ::: 2 EXAMINATION BY: PAGE 3 MR. CLARK 5 4 5 6 7 ::: INDEX OF REQUESTS ::: 8 PAGE LINE 32 15 REQUEST 9 10 Mark the transcript as 30(b)(6) deposition 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APP020 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page24 of 50 Page 4 1 ::: INDEX OF EXHIBITS ::: 2 NUMBER DESCRIPTION PAGE 3 1. Anderson 30(b)(6) Deposition Notice 6 4 2. Document, Bates No. GD-001494-001526 9 5 3. Document, Bates No. GD-002446-2550 14 6 4. Document, Bates No. GD-00560-561 28 7 5. Document, Bates No. GD-00562-563 28 8 6. Document, Bates No. GD-000272-392 32 9 7. Document, Bates No. GD-000393-419 32 10 8. Document, Bates No. GD-000614-629 48 11 9. Document, Bates No. GD-000420-487 51 12 10. Document, Bates No. GD-000532-559 53 13 11. Document, Bates No. GD-000500-502 61 14 12. Document, Bates No. GD-000488-499 63 15 13. Document, Bates No. PET GD000216-272 66 16 14. ICANN/Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy 71 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APP021 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page25 of 50 Page 5 1 LAURIE ANDERSON, 2 being duly sworn by the Certified Shorthand Reporter 3 to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but 4 the truth, testified as follows: 5 6 EXAMINATION BY MR. CLARK Q. All right. Good morning. I'm a lawyer. My name is 7 Perry Clark. I represent the 8 plaintiff in this case, Petroliam Nasional Berhad 9 also known as Petronas, and I think counsel probably 10 wants to make an appearance as well. 11 MR. LANSKY: Yeah, this is David Lansky 12 of Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati on behalf of the 13 deponent. 14 BY MR. CLARK: 15 Q. Now, do you understand that the oath you 16 took today, that means that the testimony you're 17 giving today is under penalty of perjury the same as 18 it would be in a court of law? 19 A. Yes. 20 Q. And can I ask that if you don't 21 understand any of my questions or need clarification 22 of anything I'm asking, that you ask me to clarify 23 the question? 24 25 A. Yes. MR. CLARK: Okay, great. APP022 All right. I'd Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page26 of 50 Page 6 1 like to have the court reporter mark as Exhibit 2 number 1 the 30(b)(6) deposition notice that we 3 served in this case. 4 5 6 (DEPOSITION EXHIBIT 1 WAS MARKED.) BY MR. CLARK: Q. So I'm handing the witness what's been 7 marked as deposition Exhibit Anderson 1, and have you 8 seen this document before? 9 A. I have. 10 Q. And so I'd like to begin by taking your 11 deposition as a Rule 30(b)(6) deponent, and we'll 12 have this part of the transcript marked as the 13 30(b)(6) deposition. 14 Now, you have been designated to testify 15 on a number of topics in this notice. 16 understand that? 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. Okay. Do you And if you could turn to page 8 of 19 the deposition notice, you'll see there there's 20 number 5 -- topic number 5. 21 A. Okay. 22 Q. And do you understand that you've been 23 designated to testify on that topic which is the 24 domain name forwarding service to which Go Daddy 25 refers in paragraph 29 of its amended answer, June APP023 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page27 of 50 Page 7 1 20, 2011, including when Go Daddy began to provide 2 that service to any customer? 3 A. Yes. 4 Q. Okay. Now, when did Go Daddy first 5 provide domain name forwarding services to any 6 customer? 7 A. I believe it was April of 2001. 8 Q. Okay. 9 And when did Go Daddy first begin providing domain name registration for customers? 10 A. I think it was November of 2000. 11 Q. Go Daddy was able to provide domain name 12 registrations without providing domain name 13 forwarding services from November 2000 to April 2001? 14 A. I didn't work there at that time so I 15 really can't say. 16 Q. Okay. Can you describe -- actually, 17 referring back to topic number 5, the domain name 18 forwarding service to which Go Daddy refers in 19 paragraph 29 of its amended answer, is that the 20 domain name forwarding service it provided for the 21 registrant of the domain names Petronas Tower and 22 petronastowers.net? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. Can you describe that domain name 25 forwarding service for me? APP024 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page28 of 50 Page 8 1 2 A. Domain name forwarding directs a domain name to a specific URL. 3 Q. It's a type of routing. Are ICANN accredited registrars required 4 to provide domain name forwarding to their registrant 5 customers? 6 A. I don't know. 7 Q. Are ICANN accredited registrars required 8 to provide any sort of routing services to their 9 registrant customers? 10 11 A. I don't know whether that's required or Q. Do you know if Go Daddy was an ICANN not. 12 13 accredited registrar between November 2000 and April 14 2001? 15 16 17 A. I believe they became a registrar -- an ICANN accredited registrar in November of 2000. Q. So ICANN stands for the Internet 18 Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers; is that 19 correct? 20 A. Correct. 21 Q. Okay. Does ICANN require accredited 22 registrars like Go Daddy to provide the function of 23 routing Internet traffic to websites of registrant's 24 choices? 25 A. I don't know whether they require it, but APP025 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page29 of 50 Page 15 1 Q. So these would include instructions for 2 Go Daddy customers as to how to use Go Daddy's 3 services? 4 A. Yes. 5 Q. Could you please turn to the page marked 6 with Bates number GD-002453. 7 second full paragraph on that page, please? 8 9 A. Now, could you read the "If you registered your domain name with another provider, you can still purchase a hosting 10 account with us. 11 use our CashParking or Quick Content services. 12 you do any of those, you must view your nameservers 13 and your account with us and then set the nameservers 14 with your domain name registrar." 15 Q. These are off-site DNS services or If So can a customer of Go Daddy's who's 16 registered their domain name with another provider 17 purchase a hosting account and use Go Daddy's 18 off-site DNS services? 19 A. I believe so. 20 Q. Could -- and if a customer who registered 21 -- if a Go Daddy customer who registered their domain 22 name with another provider and had purchased a 23 hosting account with Go Daddy and used Go Daddy's 24 off-site DNS services, would that customer have to 25 use Go Daddy's nameservers? APP026 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page30 of 50 Page 21 1 Q. Okay. So as Go Daddy's designated 2 representative for topic number 5 in the Rule 3 30(b)(6) deposition notice which is the domain name 4 forwarding service to which Go Daddy refers in 5 paragraph 29 of its amended answer, you don't know if 6 Go Daddy could have performed the registration and 7 maintenance of the domain names petronastower.net and 8 petronastowers.net without providing that domain name 9 forwarding service? 10 11 MR. LANSKY: question. 12 13 14 Object to the form of the THE WITNESS: Can you repeat? BY MR. CLARK: Q. So you understand that you're Go Daddy's 15 designated representative for topic 5 in Petronas' 16 Rule 30(b)(6) deposition notice, correct? 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. And topic number 5 is the domain name 19 forwarding service to which Go Daddy refers in 20 paragraph 29 of its amended answer dated June 20, 21 2011, correct? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. Do you know if Go Daddy would have been 24 able to perform the registration and maintenance of 25 the domain names Petronas Towers -- petronastower.net APP027 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page31 of 50 Page 22 1 and petronastowers.net without providing that domain 2 name forwarding service? 3 MR. LANSKY: 4 THE WITNESS: Object to the form. I believe that's -- I 5 believe that they could depending on what the 6 customer requires or wants to do with the domain 7 name. 8 BY MR. CLARK: 9 Q. So you believe that Go Daddy could have 10 performed the registration and maintenance of the 11 domain names Petronas Tower and petronastowers.net 12 without providing its domain name forwarding service, 13 correct? 14 MR. LANSKY: Object to the form. 15 Misstates the entirety of her testimony and asked and 16 answered. 17 THE WITNESS: If Petronas Towers domain 18 names could have been pointed to another website by 19 using the A record method, so I'm going to say yes. 20 BY MR. CLARK: 21 Q. Okay. 22 A. In other words, the same thing could have 23 24 25 been accomplished using the A record method. Q. Okay. So Go Daddy did not -- well, we've already covered that. APP028 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page32 of 50 Page 27 1 MR. LANSKY: 2 THE WITNESS: 3 Object to the form. I don't know. BY MR. CLARK: 4 Q. Do you know when Go Daddy first began 5 providing domain name forwarding services for the 6 domain name petronastower.net? 7 A. I don't recall. 8 Q. Do you know if Go Daddy provided domain 9 name forwarding services for petronastower.net at the 10 time it first became the registrar for that domain 11 name? 12 A. I don't recall. 13 Q. If Go Daddy had not provided domain name 14 forwarding services when it first became the 15 registrar of petronastower.net, could it have 16 performed the registration and maintenance of that 17 domain name? 18 MR. LANSKY: 19 THE WITNESS: 20 21 I believe so. BY MR. CLARK: Q. Is the same true for petronastowers.net? 22 MR. LANSKY: 23 THE WITNESS: 24 MR. CLARK: 25 Object to the form. Object to the form. I believe so. I'm now going to have the court reporter mark as Anderson Exhibit 4 a document APP029 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page33 of 50 Page 44 1 Q. And in that box there it says, "Action 2 taken. We received notification of pending court 3 dispute. 4 admin fee. 5 complaint from complainant's representative within 6 the next few days." Lock name, set to status 10 and charged Registrant should receive notice of the Do you see that? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. Do you know if Go Daddy had any 9 communication with the registrant of 10 petronastower.net after it received the notification 11 referred to in this document? 12 A. I don't know. 13 Q. Do you see to the left of this entry 14 there's a name there. It's Christopher Patterson? 15 A. Yes. 16 Q. Who's Christopher Patterson? 17 A. He's disputes representative. 18 Q. Was he responsible for handling the 19 20 dispute regarding petronastower.net? A. He would have been the one that set it up 21 when we received the claim -- or when we received the 22 dispute, he would have set up the claim. 23 Q. Okay. Now, do you know if the registrant 24 of the domain name petronastower.net ever disputed 25 Petronas' allegations that it was committing APP030 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page34 of 50 Page 45 1 trademark infringement? 2 A. I don't know. 3 Q. Okay. Now, if you could turn to the page 4 bearing Bates number GD-00298. And a little bit 5 above, halfway down the page there's another entry. 6 It says, "Domain services tracking." 7 towards the bottom of that entry it says, "Action 8 taken. 9 see that? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. So what does that refer to? 12 A. If we receive a court order to implement And sort of Transferred domain per court order." Do you 13 a decision to or a temporary restraining order. 14 Sometimes we'll be ordered to move a domain name to 15 the control of the complaining party. 16 Q. Okay. Now, it says there in the next 17 row, it says, "Canceling petronastower.net order ID 18 one row ID one name space forwarding resource ID." 19 Do you see that? 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. What does that refer to? 22 A. When the domain name was moved out of the 23 account, the forwarding would have been automatically 24 canceled. 25 Q. Okay. Now, after the domain name was APP031 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page35 of 50 Page 65 1 A. We could not have canceled the domain 2 names because we are subject to the UDRP. 3 would have had to have either an arbitration decision 4 or a court order to transfer the domain names or 5 cancel them. 6 Q. Uh-huh. So we But is there anything in the 7 Universal Terms of Service agreement or any other 8 agreement between Go Daddy and the registrant that 9 would have prevented Go Daddy from suspending those 10 domain names in response to the complaints from 11 Petronas? 12 MR. LANSKY: 13 THE WITNESS: 14 15 Object to the form. I don't -- I don't know. BY MR. CLARK: Q. Is there anything in any of the 16 agreements between Go Daddy and the registrant of the 17 domain names petronastower.net and petronastowers.net 18 that would have prevented it from stopping its domain 19 name forwarding service for those domain names? 20 MR. LANSKY: 21 THE WITNESS: 22 23 Object to the form. I don't know. BY MR. CLARK: Q. Do you know if Go Daddy ever received any 24 complaint or any communication from the registrant of 25 those domain names when Go Daddy stopped providing APP032 Case4:09-cv-05939-PJH Document124-3 Filed11/09/11 Page36 of 50 Page 66 1 its domain name forwarding service? 2 A. I don't know. 3 Q. Okay. 4 5 6 (DEPOSITION EXHIBIT 13 WAS MARKED.) BY MR. CLARK: Q. I'm now handing the witness a document 7 that has been marked as Exhibit 13, and it has 8 production numbers PET GD000216 to 272. 9 tell me what Exhibit 13 is? 10 11 12 13 A. And can you It appears to be the May 2001 version of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement. Q. And do you know if this is the Registrar Accreditation Agreement that was in effect in 2010? 14 A. I don't know. 15 Q. Okay. Now, is there anything in this 16 Registrar Accreditation Agreement that would have 17 prevented Go Daddy from discontinuing its domain name 18 forwarding service for the domain names Petronas 19 Tower and petronastower.net? 20 A. I don't know. 21 Q. Do you know why Go Daddy did not 22 discontinue its domain name forwarding service for 23 the domain name petronastower.net after it received 24 Petronas' notification of trademark infringement 25 related to that domain name? 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