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Matched Legal Cases: ['§ 2381', '§ 2382', '§ 2383', '§ 2384', '§ 2385', '§ 2386', '§ 2387', '§ 2388', '§ 2389', '§ 2390', '§ 2391', '§ 2384', '§ 2385']

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Who is guilty of Treason, Sedition, and Subversion?
Posted by Liberty Forus on April 28, 2012 at 7:40am in OPEN DISCUSSIONS
Article III, Section 3 of the United States Constitution states, “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort…
War is generally defined as an armed conflict between two or more factions, who engage in suppression or destruction of the opposition, physically and materially, for the purpose of instituting the socio-political institutions of the prevailing army or faction.
United States Code The United States Code is the codification by subject matter of the general and permanent laws of the United States. It is divided by broad subjects into 50 titles and published by the Office of the Law Revision Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives. Since 1926, the United States Code has been published every six years. In between editions, annual cumulative supplements are published in order to present the most current information.
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 CHAPTER 115—TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
• § 2381. Treason
• § 2382. Misprision of treason
• § 2383. Rebellion or insurrection
• § 2384. Seditious conspiracy
• § 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
• § 2386. Registration of certain organizations
• § 2387. Activities affecting armed forces generally
• § 2388. Activities affecting armed forces during war
• § 2389. Recruiting for service against United States
• § 2390. Enlistment to serve against United States
• [§ 2391. Repealed.]
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_115.html § 2384. Seditious conspiracy
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002384----000-.html
§ 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government …Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, [Note: destroying any government in the United States by force or violence is prohibited, but that would imply the inverse is not prohibited; that is, destroying any government in the United States by non-force and non-violence is permitted]or attempts to do so; or Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
For a score of decades, the United States has been under assault, by warring factions and ideological attacks, from within and without. The writers of the United States Constitution were rather simplistic in their view of treason, as can be seen in Article III, Section 3. Their view of treason was clearly associated only with external enemies whose tool was physical destruction with the purpose of conquering.
It can be seen from early writings that the founding forefathers were well aware of the possibility of a degenerated government. "At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished, asked him directly: "Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin." So quotes Ron Paul in a statement written in early 2000.
Franklin's words were quite telling. He could have simply said, "A republic", but he added the 5 words, "if you can keep it." By uttering those words, Franklin was suggesting that a republic is not something that can be expected to survive without nurturing and constant attention. Much like an infant, a republic requires the supervision and disciplinary hand of a watchful guardian. If that guardian takes his responsibility lightly, it can be expected that the republic will stray from all that is good and pure and will grow into an unrecognizable monster that knows not how to function properly, defiant and thirsty for self-gratification.”
Ladies and Gentlemen, it appears that we have arrived!
The authors of the United States Code have done us no favors with the wording of descriptions of treason, sedition and overthrow. As you must have noted, the definitions include the use of the phrase “by force and/or by violence”. It makes no mention of treason, sedition, or overthrow by slowly distorting the governmental authority away from its original purpose, by corrupt and unconstitutional activities by any or all three branches of government. The framers of the Constitution, perhaps even through their own argumentative discussions, must have known that governmental degeneration was a possibility and that nothing they wrote, could prevent it, if the people were intent to allow it, purposely or by their own stupidity.
Our country is on the verge of economic collapse. We have a President, a Congress and a Supreme Court who collectively are the most corrupt in the history of these United States. The President neither honors his oath of office nor the United States Constitution. He hides his history, as though he is ashamed of it. His vision is not one that includes preservation of the Constitution; he circumvents Congress using agencies and executive order. He willingly presides over the collapse of the republic as founded. Is he not by any definition, guilty of treason, sedition and overthrown, but, because he presides over the disintegration without direct militant force or violence, by U.S. Code, he cannot be held accountable. And Congress, as currently constituted, will not hold him accountable. And the republic disintegrates.
The Congress spends like a drunken Russian sailor in a whore house (not intending to cast dispersions on the drunken Russian sailor). Their irresponsible actions enslave every generation in the foreseeable future with illegitimate and unnecessary debt. They destroy the country from within. Collectively, are they not guilty of treason, sedition and overthrown? But, since they employ their methods from ethical corruption, without embracing the tools of force or violence, they are immune from legal condemnation, from the courts or from themselves. So, by definition of the U.S. Code, they cannot be held accountable for their treachery. And the republic continues to disintegrate.
The Supreme Court has been stacked with justices with a liberal agenda, not constitutionalists. They rule the EPA can regulate CO2, circumventing the authority of Congress, shutting down our energy sources. They allowed the children of illegal trespassers citizenship by birthright, though their birth is the result of breaking our laws. By misinterpretation of the U.S. Constitution, are they not collectively guilty of treason, sedition and overthrow? But, because they conduct their business under the guise of legal interpretations, and do not use physical force or violence, they cannot be held accountable by the U.S. Code. Meanwhile, the republic disintegrates.
Our borders go uncontrolled and the illegal invasion which started with George W. Bush continues under Barack Hussein Obama; anchor babies are GIVEN the right of citizenship and the benefit of social services for which their parents NEVER paid. The folly of the “suspension of free enterprise in order to save free enterprise” under George W. Bush, continues at an accelerated rate under Barack Hussein Obama. Tax payers money is squandered on illegitimate government backed loans (on the backs of the tax payers) to illegitimate businesses.
The Fed prints money at will. We send billions overseas for crude oil, stop our own energy production and spend billions policing the world and nation building. And, we are BROKE!
This can neither be that which the founding forefathers had in mind, nor, apparently, that which they thought they could have stopped from happening, by simply penning words to paper!
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. -- Declaration of Independence
God help us all. How can we possibly avoid this??? Tags:
Permalink Reply by AZRanger on April 28, 2012 at 6:28pm Remember one thing, the United States Code referenced in the above article, is NOT the US Constituion, nor does it represent the intent and extraneous writings of the Founding Fathers concerning the issues the author broached. These regulations were written by people subsequent to the Constitution, and obviously by people who were in favor of a federal preeminence in government. They are written in such a way as to preclude a citizen uprising, regardless of the potential reason, but I beieve that the US Constitution takes precedence over US Code; so that must e the aspect of the "Rule of Law" that we must hang our hats on!It won't be long now, as the feds have just about run out of preliminary steps they can take before attempting a governmental takeover of the country, and a shutting down of our oipen society!In the Spirit of AMERICAN Liberty,AZRanger
Permalink Reply by Travis Bishop on April 29, 2012 at 3:51am Point of fact, this can be utilized to our advantage. Does not logic, from a common sense, and even legal, standpoint, rule the day in a civilized society? Unless of course we are no longer deemed to be a society under Rule of Law, then what is the point in having law to begin with? It stands to reason beyond any doubt that any law, bill, Act, regulation, legal opinion, contention in disregard to, or in opposition of, the Constitution of The United States of America, can be construed on a reasonable level of factual evidence as Treason. For, is it not the actual intent of such a program to overthrow the lawful government by force of arms? Have the powers that perpetuate such a program shown on many occasions that they are more than willing and able to deploy an armed force to implement their agenda upon the lawful citizenship of this nation in complete and utter disregard to Due Process of Law as stipulated within the lawfully ratified Constitution and accompanying Bill of Rights? Isn't the intent of the present Administration to circumvent Due Process by circumventing lawful process? Has not the President, duly elected, stipulated in words commonly refered to as Contemporary English that he/they will by-pass congressional process and oversight of said legal and lawful acts with regards to the intent of imposing unlawful demands and procedures up the populace at large?
Permalink Reply by AZRanger on April 29, 2012 at 6:04am Travis, I agree wholeheartedly! This concept of supremacy is what undergirds the Declaration of Independence, and the US COnstitution. When King George continued to violate historical English Law, Biblical Law, and the very laws that he had established when they did not suit his purposes of the moment, he abrogated his right to govern the citizens of the colonies. When our current federal government, in the form of the individuals running it, and the laws, rules, and edicts they have imposed on the citizzen's of this coutry which contradict the Constitution, Biblical Law, and the laws that they themselves have established, when they become inconvenient to their intent of the moment, those individuals have abrogated their rights to represent the will of "WE THE PEOPLE" as well!
As in 1774, when the current federal governing establishment and the individuals which comprise it, act in the manner described above, or fail to correct the behaviors of those perpetrating those same traveties, they become complicit in that abrogation of governing rights, and "WE THE PEOPLE," have the right to, naye, the obligation to, correct that situation! And, such correction must needs be accomplished by whatever means are necessary, up to and including the use of force of arms!
Human nature being such that it is, those complicit can be expected to attempt to maintain the status quo in order to protect their self-interests, by whatever means are avaiable to them; and since they have already shown a propensity to use force of arms in order to establish a dominance of, and enforce compliance with, their edicts against the citizens of this country, it stands to any reasonable man, that WE THE PEOPLE have the right to use said means againsst them in order to effect their removal, should that become necessary!
In the Spirit of AMERICAN Liberty,AZRangerSic Semper Tyrannus!