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So there you have it. Magazine capacities in a nutshell. There are more exceptions and limitations than I've included here. As well, the information in the post above may not be up to date when accessed. Questar, one of the original importers of LAR mags, has some good information on their site: https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopcontent.asp?type=Mag%20Ruling
Stuck :) very nice write up
Excellent writeup! It may be advantageous at some point to include an update with respect to the .50 Beowulf magazines.
So if you had some pistol mags from an XCR-L you could use them in your XCR-L rifle? Handy for a 3 Gun.
Very handy for 3 gun. Unfortunately, it greats a disparity on the playing field for those that still have 5 round magazines (ie the guys running a M14). Some match directors go as far as to limit everyone to 5 rounds. I can see this becoming more common as the Beowulf magazines become more popular. That or I'm going to have to switch my platform.
I hope you did not mind I just reposted you note on the Ruger forum.
who has the .50 beowulf magazines id buy a bunch
Very hard to find at the moment. Armtac has a pre-order going though! They're the main guys to score those from!
I'm guessing this applies to Buttler Creek 25/22 banana mags (http://www.butlercreek.com/products/magazine_banana.html) as well...
Having read this thread, I'm suddenly wondering about something. I have a Beretta CX-4 Storm in 9mm which comes with 10 rounds mags. The CX-4 is restricted because of barrel length. But since it's a semi-auto carbine, in my understanding it should be limited to a 5 rounds mag.
I do know the CX-4 mag fit in the Beretta FS92 and M9 9mm handguns. And I would then expect these mags to fall into this category:
So, what's the part I'm not getting here? Not that I'm complaining... More rounds the merrier! ;) But it'd be nice to be able to explain it to a LEO if ever needed.
A lil something like this?
http://youtu.be/GQpfQd1397E
Hey guy, in the actual firearms act, where does it say that we can use 10-rounders in semi-auto centrefire rifles? I've been poring over the SOR 98-462 part 3, but can't make head or tail of it.
I'm trying to educate the executive at my club about the actual magazine laws. I've already sent them bulletin 72 and would like to supplement it with the actual firearms law.
Part of the problem is that one of them apparently contacted the surrey firearms office as well as the firearms office in Ottawa and was told that 10-round mags were illegal whether on semi OR bolt action! Now I KNOW that's wrong. How do I prove it?
I think you mean SOR 98-462 part 4 section 3.
(vi) the firearm of the design commonly known as the UZI pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Micro- UZI pistol; or
(i) the .303 in. Lewis Mark 1 machine-gun, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Lewis Mark 1*, Mark 2, Mark 2*, Mark 3, Mark 4, Lewis SS and .30 in. Savage-Lewis, (ii) the .303 in. Vickers Mark 1 machine-gun, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Mark 1*, Mark 2, Mark 2*, Mark 3, Mark 4, Mark 4B, Mark 5, Mark 6, Mark 6* and Mark 7, or
(d) was originally designed or manufactured for use in the semiautomatic firearm that is a handgun known as the Webley and Scott Self-Loading Pistol, Model 1912 or Model 1915.
Ah yes. That one. So where...explicitly, does it say what I want it to say? 
The rule is 5 rounds in a centerfire semi auto,
unlimited in a rimfire or bolt,
Part 4 section 3(1)(a) says prohibited device is any cartridge magazine that "is capable of containing more than five cartridges ..."
The subsections of 3(1)(a), namely {i, ii, ii, iv, v, vi} all restrict that to semi-auto and full-auto and prescribed. (which excludes bolt)
Part 4 section 3(2)(a) excludes rimfire, which means that 3(1)(a) refers to centerfire.
Prescribed describes Lee Enfields that can be 10; and M1 Garand that can be 8, etc
BTW, there's also
http://www.gov.pe.ca/photos/original/CFSCmanualVer2.pdf
which has on page 126 the same sort of thing.
Ah ok. But where does it say (except in Bulletin 72), that a magazine that is manufactured for a pistol or other bolt action rifle being allowed for use in a semi-auto rifle?
So does this – 3(1)(a) – then mean that if it is manufactured for a semi-auto centrefire, it is prohibited, but if it is manufactured for bolt action, it is legal. And hence using the magazine in a semi-auto would be legal?
Thanks for trying RB, but man, this stuff makes my head hurt. :Bang head:
where does it say that a magazine that is manufactured for a pistol ... being allowed for use in a semi-auto rifle?
3(1)(a) says 'designed' twice, once about the magazine, and once about the firearm.
3. (1) (a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in
So, any magazine that's designed for a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada is ok, subject to the 10 round limit.
where does it say that a magazine that is manufactured for a bolt action rifle being allowed for use in a semi-auto rifle
It's not prohibited to move magazines between them {semi-auto rifle, bolt action rifle, handgun},
but if you use it in a semi-auto and it's not legal for a semi-auto, that's prohibited (somewhere),
but the second it's out of the semi-auto it's no longer prohibited (by this Part 4).
No special powers granted to the words 'bolt action',
unlike 'handgun' special powers granted by three uses of the word in section 3. (1),
the most dominant of which is 3. (1) (b) which is where the 10 round handgun limit comes from.
I have been hearing there might be some issues with the high capacity .22lr drum mags, rcmp saying it's always been illigal, though they have been on store shelves for over 9 years, does anyone know if this is true or heresy ?
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1434854-The-Year-of-the-magazine-RCMP-Info-sheet
08-19-2016, 03:04 AM
This is the link related to the drum mags I was referring to, does anyone know I'f this is legit ?
If that's true thousands of .22 drum mag owners could be breaking the law without knowing.
There's at least one thread about the 10/22 mags here somewhere.
All of the facts as we know them are there along with our many rants about the RCMP's decision.
Sorry I can't link it from my phone.
Our problem is a law that prohibits cartridge magazines for firearms, based on their capacity.
That law has but one purpose, to support a civil disarmament agenda in Canada.
Therefore, the following actions must be taken.
Section 84 (1) (d) of the Criminal Code must be repealed.
The regulation (SOR98-462) that prescribes certain cartridge magazines as prohibited devices must be amended as follows:
Part 4 Section 3 (1) through 3 (5) (c) must be repealed.
08-19-2016, 10:58 PM
where they assert it's always been illegal, at least since 2007 when the Charger Pistol was invented.
and here's the one from 2013, aka "Bulletin 72".
All of the facts as we know them are there
Absolutely everything you always wanted to know about Ruger 10/22 magazine limits in Canada, but were afraid to ask ...
http://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/showthread.php?32683-RCMP-is-prohibiting-all-Ruger-10-22-magazines-that-go-over-10-rounds
Hundreds of thousands of Canadians.
1.25 million >10 round .22LR magazines sold.
Penalty around 10 years in prison.
And they didn't tell anybody.
In looking at the information given, it would seem to imply that all firearms used for hunting in Ontario are limited to the 3 round rule. This is in fact not the case, ONLY shotguns are limited to the 3 round rule, because of their limited ranges and fear that having a greater capacity would result in game being lost to wounding. Hunting rifles in Ontario follow Federal regulation which only places of 5 round capacity magazine on center-fire semi-automatics rifle ( with a few exception). All manually repeating fire can be loaded to their capacity i.e. a bolt action .303 Enfield with a 10 round magazine capacity, can be used to hunt with having 10 rounds in the magazine. The rational behind the Ontario Hunting Regulations is whatever is not prohibited is legal. Ontario when it comes to hunting only places a legal limit on the number of rounds that can be used in a shotgun.
This is correct, and is written in the Ontario MNRF hunting regulations summary: You must plug a semi-automatic or repeating shotgun so that it will not hold more than a total of three shells in the chamber and magazine combined.
Also, it later states:
Under the Criminal Code of Canada you cannot possess any clip/magazine that holds more than five shots for a semi* automatic centrefire non-restricted firearm unless that clip/magazine has been specifically exempted, pursuant to the
federal regulations. Followed by a reference to the RCMP website. Furthermore, there are restrictions regarding the size of shot or slugs or rifle calibers used for various game, or for specific times or areas depending on what you're hunting.
I got a question. I know the Ruger 10/22 25 round magazine is prohibited. Are there other rimfire magazines with 20+ capacity that can work with a Ruger 10/22? Just wondering.
I believe Dlask is set to release a 10/22 receiver that uses different magazines very soon. I don't know the exact details....but it's probably not super cheap. Anything over 10 rounds that fits in the Ruger 10/22 is currently non-kosher though.
So two quick questions that I may sound like a total newbie for asking:
1. Could you use a LAR 15 pistol magazine, which is used in restricted firearms ie; pistols/AR style rifles, in a non restricted AR style rifle like the Bushmaster ACR DMR legally?
2. With M+M M10X-Z coming out, since it uses AK magazines, is there even a AK pistol magazine equivalent that you could get? Providing the answer to question 1. is yes?
2. Yes - provided the magazine is available. I don't think they are available yet in Canada.
I saw a post elsewhere that someone is attempting to import an AK pistol magazine. Wasn't there a 7.62x39 AR pistol that used AK mags a couple years back? I seem to recall something of that nature.....
Thank you Kennymo for the clarification, it was one of those "I think so, but I can't find it, so..." questions. I found an older post from i run guns about them.
shiloh87
I was at the range the other day with my lar mags and was told based on the latest bulletin regardless to the type of mag or its intended use, if a given rifle is intended to use only a 5 rnd mag than all you can put in a lar mag is 5 rnds.
The mag is not illegal, you can only load it to 10 rnds if you have a LAR-15
That might be a range rule, but it isn't law.