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Discussion in 'Student Pilot and Further Learning' started by Xavier, Feb 10, 2017.
Hi All, trying to get some info on the aircraft requirements to do the Controlled Aerodrome Endorsement and the Controlled Airspace Endorsement
I transferred my RaAus Certificated to an RPL with Navigation and Radio Endorsement and now it's time for the CTA Endorsement.
CASA Form 61-1RE required :
- Holds a flight radio endorsement with at least a valid ICAO Level 4 Aviation English Language Proficiency
- Pass in the aeronautical knowledge examination for the endorsement
- Completed flight training for the endorsement
My question is, can the flight training be done in a factory build RA-Aus aircraft (with transponder) or does it has to be done in a VH aircraft ?
VH registered unfortunately, as stupid as it may seem. RPL training in your case would have to be done under a part 141 training school approval, which means GA instructors with GA aircraft. Also I believe the endorsement has to be issued by a grade 2 instructor or higher, although I'm not 100% certain of that. Since it's an endorsement, not a rating, it doesn't require a flight test as such, you just have to demonstrate competence. I would suggest it might be a good time to chuck in a retractable and CSU endorsement as well.
GA instructor okay in an RAAUS plane?
With regard to post #3 you can only get credit for common syllabus items. Otherwise the training and examination must be as per part 141 or 142 etc
trying to get some info on the aircraft requirements to do the Controlled Aerodrome Endorsement and the Controlled Airspace EndorsementClick to expand...
Hi guys,could someone point the way to more information regarding these two endorsements please. Navigating the CASA website is next to impossible and I cant find any detailed information. Also, if one obtains these endorsements, can you fly an ra-aus aircraft through controlled airspace? I have NOWRA military airspace active just south of me with a GA lane, but currently need clearance to fly through it. Was hoping to get one of these endorsements so i can fly through it in a Jabiru.
This question has been done to death. This is not advice but if it was me I would be talking to my instructor about my part 61 licence and endorsements and the specific plane I plan to fly
This question has been done to death. This is not advice but if it was me I would be talking to my instructor about my part 61 licence and endorsements and the specific plane I plan to flyClick to expand...
Talked to three different instructors yesterday at three different flight schools and got three different answers. Looking for some official information because it seems no one really knows, and probably the reason this question has been done to death
My only recollection, for what it's worth, is the candidate will provide a "suitable" aeroplane for the test and that would have been IFR instrumented for whatever aids you wanted on your licence. There would be a presumption of it being GA with TSO'd instrumentation, radios etc. ALL this stuff should be clearly spelled out somewhere. It may well not be so I'm not inferring it's anyone's fault but that of whoever's job it is to FACILITATE getting things done. Nev
In answer to the second part of the question... The bit about going through the Nowra when it is active.
If the plane you are going to fly has been to Canberra or any other class C airspace, then it will be acceptable. A J170 from a flying school with a certified altimeter and Mode C transponder (and the certification period is still valid) will be ok. That is in part 95.24.
The pilot needs to have a valid current part 61 licence. ALSO if the PIC is on a part 61 RPL they need to already have had CTR endorsement for transit and CTA endorsement for landing at a controlled aerodrome as applicable to the mission
Thanks mate... I'll check out those references.
Romeo Juliet Whiskey said:
Thanks mate... I'll check out those references.Click to expand...
The transponder needs to have been calibrated to enter Class C control , it's called RAD 43-47 I think from memory and done every two years ! Correct me if I'm wrong.
I should have mentioned Mode C or Mode S but yes there will be a test and validity date for the pitot static system (altitude and airspeed) and the transponder. Its a minor detail that will appear in the aircraft log. Normally this isn't in the plane. CAO 20.18 paragraph 9 gives some clues about the need to have a servicable transponder in class C airspace. Side note: inspection is annual but calibration is 24 months.
king_daniels,
Not training. Flying into or through controlled airspace. But yes Daniel you are correct regarding the training. It just won't count as valid unless part 141 is followed with regard to a part 61 licence. It may count as aeronautical experience only.
king_daniels said:
Unless I am missing it, in part 141 an 61 does not state what registration a aircraft have to beClick to expand...
Training must be done by a Part 141/142 school therefore it does limit the registration etc - read the Ops Manual of the school. The training must be done per a syllabus in that CASA-accepted Ops Manual. Part 61 is very specific as to the registration of aircraft it applies to.
(just my opinion from having spent much time looking at these rules a while back so relying on my faulty memory too)
Part 61.007 states part 61 applies to "registered aircraft". CASA do not regard RAAus aircraft as "registered". So if you are training for a CTA endorsement issued under Part 61 they require you and the instructor to use an aircraft also authorised under Part 61 I guess.
Can you do a flight review for RPL in a overseas registered aircraft, or does it only have to be Australia registered aircraft.
Can you back your answer up, a opinion does not mean much
Maybe, depends ... see 61.400
When a GA flight review is done, form 61-9FR is submitted. Where you have to put the aircraft rego number, CASA have helpfully put the first two letters.... "VH". I thinks that's a hint as to what aircraft you have to do the flight review in. https://www.casa.gov.au/file/139841/download?token=ZO8rOlgV