Patent Publication Number: US-11662084-B2

Title: Flangeless trim

Description:
TECHNICAL FIELD OF THE INVENTION 
     The present invention relates in general to downlight trim assemblies and more specifically to flangeless downlight trim assemblies that may comprise reflectors that may be removably attached or detached to spackle-frames without tools and just using human finger(s); and/or wherein those reflectors may be attached other components such as holding-plates and/or lighting modules. 
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     BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION 
     Downlight trim has often traditionally included a flange component, wherein once this flanged trim is installed in a given ceiling, from below that ceiling, the flange may be visible, as well as underside portions of a reflector, and underside portions of the light module&#39;s lens. See e.g.,  FIG.  1 D . 
     However, there may be reasons to have downlight trim without a flange, such that from below it appears there is no boundary (e.g., the flange) between where the ceiling ends and the reflector/trim begins. So, in a flangeless downlight trim scenario, from below all that one sees is the ceiling&#39;s underside portions of a reflector, and underside portions of the light module&#39;s lens, but not the traditional flange component which is absent. This is accomplished by replacing the traditional flange component with a spackle-frame. The spackle-frame is typically screwed into the ceiling&#39;s underside and the disc portions of the spackle-frame are spackled over and painted, so that the end result in a finished ceiling underside that seamlessly transitions to the reflector/trim, but without any visible flange. 
     However, with such flangeless downlight trims, a problem can arise in how to remove the reflector/trim and/or the given light module that is located above the reflector/trim. Because in the installed flangeless downlight trims there are no exposed surfaces that one can purchase on to pull down the reflector/trim and/or the associated light module. In the installed flangeless downlight trims scenarios, all that is typically present from the ceiling&#39;s underside is a smooth surface of the reflector&#39;s underside and the bottom of the lens. 
     One prior art solution to this problem has been to use a suction cup to attach to the smooth reflector surface and/or to the lens underside. 
     Another prior art solution has been to create a reflector that uses opposing spring-loaded ball-bearings to removably attach to the spackle-frame and to not have the above located lighting module be attached to that reflector. This prior art solution allows this reflector to be removed from the spackle-frame without tools, just human fingers. This prior art approach is shown in  FIG.  1 A  through  FIG.  1 C . However, this prior art solution leads to a secondary problem of how to remove lighting module that is located above that removed reflector. Under this prior art approach that removal of the lighting module may require use of tools. 
     There is a need in the art for a flangeless trim that may be installed or removed from a spackle-frame without using tools, with only using human fingers; and wherein installation or removal of that flangeless trim also installs or removes the associated lighting module, and still without using tools, with only using human fingers, because a portion of that flangeless trim may be attached to the lighting module. 
     It is to these ends that the present invention has been developed. 
     BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION 
     To minimize the limitations in the prior art, and to minimize other limitations that will be apparent upon reading and understanding the present specification, embodiments of the present invention describe downlight reflectors, downlight flangeless trim, and/or lighting system that may comprise such downlight reflectors and/or downlight flangeless trim along with lighting modules. 
     In some embodiments, the downlight reflectors comprise structures (e.g., stepped protrusions with clips) for removable attachment to a spackle-frame. By disengaging the clips the reflector may be removed from the spackle-frame. To install (removably attach) the reflector to the spackle-frame, the reflector need only be pushed into the main-largest-central hole of the spackle-frame until the clips engage the spackle-frame. 
     In some embodiments, the downlight reflector may comprise different structures (e.g., shafted fasteners, springs, and various apertures) for attachment to a holding-plate; and the holding-plate may be configured to attach to a given lighting module. In a default or resting configuration, while the reflector is attached to the holding-plate, a bottom of the holding-plate may butt up against a top of the reflector, such that there is no gap between the holding-plate and the reflector. However, in a second configuration, still while the reflector is attached to the holding-plate, the reflector and the holding-plate may be separated from each other by a gap. This gap may be created and maintained without tools, aside from only human fingers. This gap may be formed and maintained by human fingers pushing the holding-plate (and/or attached lens) away from the reflector. Formation of this gap may permit a person to disengage clips of the reflector, to detach the reflector (with attached holding-plate) from the spackle-frame. Further, this gap may provide fingers with purchase to be able to pull down the reflector (with attached holding-plate [and/or with attached lighting module]) from the spackle-frame. Without this gap, there may be no structures for human fingers to find purchase to pull down the reflector (with attached holding-plate [and/or with attached lighting module]), as without this gap, there may be only the smooth underside surfaces of the reflector and the underside surface of lens. 
     It is an objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that may be used in flangeless trim downlight scenarios. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that may be removably attached (detached) to a spackle-frame. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that may be removably attached (detached) to a spackle-frame without tools. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that may be removably attached (detached) to a spackle-frame with only using human fingers. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that may be attached to a holding-plate. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that may be attached to a holding-plate, wherein the holding-plate may be attached to a lighting module. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that while attached to a holding-plate, the downlight reflector may be separated from the holding-plate by a gap. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that while attached to a holding-plate, the downlight reflector may be separated from the holding-plate by a gap, wherein the gap may be variable in length/distance. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that while attached to a holding-plate, the downlight reflector may be separated from the holding-plate by a gap, wherein the gap may provide room/space for human fingers (without tools) to disengage clip(s) between the downlight reflector and a spackle-frame. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that while attached to a holding-plate, the downlight reflector may be separated from the holding-plate by a gap, wherein the gap may provide purchase for human fingers (without tools) to pull the downlight reflector, with attached holding-plate downwards and away from a spackle-frame. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector that while attached to a holding-plate, the downlight reflector may be separated from the holding-plate by a gap, wherein the gap may provide purchase for human fingers (without tools) to pull the downlight reflector, with attached holding-plate, and with a lighting module that is attached to the holding-plate, downwards and away from a spackle-frame. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector and a spackle-frame that may be used in flangeless trim downlight scenarios. 
     It is another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector and a lighting module that may be used in flangeless trim downlight scenarios. 
     It is yet another objective of the present invention to provide a downlight reflector, a spackle-frame, and a lighting module that may be used in flangeless trim downlight scenarios. 
     These and other advantages and features of the present invention are described herein with specificity so as to make the present invention understandable to one of ordinary skill in the art, both with respect to how to practice the present invention and how to make the present invention. 
    
    
     
       BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE SEVERAL VIEWS OF THE DRAWINGS 
       Elements in the figures have not necessarily been drawn to scale in order to enhance their clarity and improve understanding of these various elements and embodiments of the invention. Furthermore, elements that are known to be common and well understood to those in the industry are not depicted in order to provide a clear view of the various embodiments of the invention. 
         FIG.  1 A  depicts a top perspective view of a prior art trim component/part. 
         FIG.  1 B  depicts another, different, top perspective view of the prior art trim component/part of  FIG.  1 A .  FIG.  1 B  is almost a side view. 
         FIG.  1 C  depicts yet another different top perspective view of the prior art trim component/part of  FIG.  1 A .  FIG.  1 C  is almost a top view, i.e., more of a top view than a perspective view. 
         FIG.  1 D  is a bottom view of a prior art example of a flanged trim installed into the bottom of a given ceiling. 
         FIG.  2 A  depicts a top perspective of a flangeless trim assembly. 
         FIG.  2 B  depicts a slightly different top perspective of the flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  2 C  depicts a bottom perspective of a flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  2 D  depicts a slightly different bottom perspective of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  2 E  depicts a yet another slightly different bottom perspective of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  2 F  depicts a top view of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  2 G  depicts a bottom view of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  2 H  depicts a left-side view of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  2 I  depicts a right-side view of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  2 J  depicts a front view of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  2 K  depicts a rear (back) view of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  3 A  depicts an exploded top perspective view of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  3 B  depicts an exploded bottom perspective view of flangeless trim assembly of  FIG.  2 A . 
         FIG.  4 A  depicts a top perspective view of a reflector and/or a trim, but without a holding-plate. 
         FIG.  4 B  depicts a left-side view of the reflector and/or the trim of  FIG.  4 A , but without the holding-plate. 
         FIG.  4 C  depicts a right-side view of the reflector and/or the trim of  FIG.  4 A , but without the holding-plate. 
         FIG.  4 D  depicts a front view of the reflector and/or the trim of  FIG.  4 A , but without the holding-plate. 
         FIG.  4 E  depicts a back (rear) view of the reflector and/or the trim of  FIG.  4 A , but without the holding-plate. 
         FIG.  4 F  depicts a top view of the reflector and/or the trim of  FIG.  4 A , but without the holding-plate. 
         FIG.  4 G  depicts a bottom view of the reflector and/or the trim of  FIG.  4 A , but without the holding-plate. 
         FIG.  5    depicts a partial top perspective view of a lighting module assembly attached to a flangeless trim assembly. 
         FIG.  6    depicts a top perspective view of flangeless trim assembly, with a (variable) gap between a reflector and a holding-plate, but wherein the reflector is attached to holding-plate. 
         FIG.  7    depicts a top perspective view of a lighting module assembly attached to a holding-plate, and with a (variable) gap between plate-holder and the reflector that is present (shown). 
         FIG.  8    depicts a top perspective view with a gap between a holding-plate and a reflector  223 , along with finger(s) of a person (human) inserted and/or causing that gap. 
         FIG.  9    depicts a bottom view of a flangeless trim assembly installed into a bottom surface (underside) of a given ceiling; wherein spackle and/or paint is entirely covering over a disc member of a spackle-frame so that the disc member of the spackle-frame is not visible from below; and wherein a lighting module assembly is attached to a holding-plate. 
         FIG.  10 A  depicts a reflector-and-light-module-subassembly that does not use (include) an intermediary holding-plate (mounting-plate) disposed between the reflector and the lighting module, shown from a top perspective view. 
         FIG.  10 B  shows the reflector-and-light-module-subassembly of  FIG.  10 A  from another top perspective view. 
         FIG.  10 C  shows the reflector-and-light-module-subassembly of  FIG.  10 A  from a side or a rear view. 
         FIG.  10 D  shows the reflector-and-light-module-subassembly of  FIG.  10 A  from a slight bottom perspective view. 
         FIG.  10 E  shows the reflector-and-light-module-subassembly of  FIG.  10 A  from a bottom perspective view. 
         FIG.  10 F  shows the reflector-and-light-module-subassembly of  FIG.  10 A  from another bottom perspective view. 
     
    
    
     REFERENCE NUMERAL SCHEDULE 
     
         
           100  prior art trim  100   
           101  conical side wall  101   
           103  protrusion  103  of side wall (four of them spaced 90 degrees apart) 
           105  non-stepped face  105   
           107  spring-loaded ball bearing  107  (at top of non-stepped face) 
           150  prior art flange trim  150   
           151  flange  151   
           153  ceiling  153   
           155  reflector  155   
           157  lens  157   
           200  flangeless trim assembly  200   
           201  spackle-frame  201   
           202  largest central hole  202   
           203  aperture  203   
           205  groove(s)  205   
           207  coupler  207   
           209  (cylindrical) side wall  209   
           211  top-opening  211   
           213  outside-diameter-of-side-wall  213   
           215  flange  215   
           223  reflector  223   
           225  (conical) side-wall  225   
           227  protrusion-of-side-wall (stepped-protrusion)  227   
           231  top-stepped-face  231   
           239  clip  239   
           241  holding-plate (mounting-plate)  241   
           243  (cylindrical) side wall  243   
           245  top-opening  245   
           247  aperture  247   
           249  rib  249   
           251  inside-ledge  251   
           253  flange  253   
           255  aperture  255   
           257  protrusion-of-flange  257   
           259  mechanical fastener  259   
           261  spring  261   
           321  trim  321   
           333  aperture  333   
           335  bottom-stepped-face  335   
           337  clip-receiver  337   
           401  smaller-top-opening  401   
           403  larger-bottom-opening  403   
           405  smaller-diameter  405   
           407  larger-diameter  407   
           500  lighting module assembly  500   
           501  heat sink module  501   
           503  driver cap  503   
           505  lens holder/lens  505   
           507  set-fastener  507   
           601  (variable) gap-between-plate-holder-and-reflector  601   
           801  finger(s) (human)  801   
           803  hand/palm (human)  803   
           901  bottom surface  901  (of ceiling) 
           1000  reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000   
           1001  lighting module  1001   
           1003  driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003   
           1005  side-wall  1005   
           1007  flanged-base  1007   
           1009  receiving-aperture  1009   
           1010  indenture  1010   
           1011  fin(s)  1011   
           1013  top  1013   
           1015  cable  1015   
           1017  lens  1017   
       
    
     DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE INVENTION 
     Note, directional terms such as “up,” “down,” “above,” below,” “vertical,” horizontal,” and/or the like are generally used herein in the context of ceilings with downlights. For example, in this context, a given ceiling is generally located vertically above a given floor; wherein the given floor is often in a horizontal plane that is perpendicular to the vertical direction. For example, bottom views noted herein (such as, but not limited to,  FIG.  2 C - FIG.  2 E ,  FIG.  2 G , and  FIG.  9   ) are generally with respect to how the given assembly would look from below the given ceiling, when that given assembly may be at least partially installed in that given ceiling. As such, top views of ceiling installed assemblies would not be visible from below the ceiling. 
     Note, the term “common longitudinal/axial center” of flangeless trim assembly  200 , of lighting module assembly  500 , and/or the like refers to an imaginary line that runs through an axial/longitudinal center of flangeless trim assembly  200 , of lighting module assembly  500 , and/or the like; and in a direction that is parallel (or substantially parallel) with a vertical direction that runs from top to bottom (or bottom to top). 
     In the following discussion that addresses a number of embodiments and applications of the present invention, reference is made to the accompanying drawings that form a part thereof, where depictions are made, by way of illustration, of specific embodiments in which the invention may be practiced. It is to be understood that other embodiments may be utilized and changes may be made without departing from the scope of the invention. 
       FIG.  1 A  depicts a top perspective view of a prior art trim  100  component/part.  FIG.  1 B  depicts another, different, top perspective view of prior art trim  100  component/part.  FIG.  1 B  is almost a side view.  FIG.  1 C  depicts yet another different top perspective view of prior art trim  100  component/part.  FIG.  1 C  is almost a top view, i.e., more of a top view than a perspective view. Prior art trim  100  has a conical side wall  101  and is open on prior art trim  100  top and bottom. Protruding from four different regions of conical side wall  101  are protrusions  103 . The four protrusions  103  of conical side wall  101  are spaced about ninety (90) degrees apart with respect to a common longitudinal/axial center of prior art trim  100 . Note, each top of protrusion  103  has a circular indenture, likely a remnant from injection molding, but otherwise each top of protrusion  103  is entirely free of any hole/aperture. Note, each top of protrusion  103  is below an uppermost top of conical side wall  101 . Each protrusion  103  has a flat non-stepped face  105  that runs in a direction that is substantially parallel with common longitudinal/axial center of prior art trim  100 . Near a top of each non-stepped face  105  is a spring-loaded ball bearing  107 . These spring loaded ball bearings  107  are used to attach prior art trim  100  to a given spackle frame. An outside diameter of two opposing spring loaded ball bearings  107  is greater than an inside diameter of the main/largest central hole of the spackle frame. Prior art trim  100  is also a reflector and functions as a reflector. When prior art trim  100  is installed into the spackle frame and the spackle frame is installed into a ceiling, the lighting module that will/is residing above the uppermost top of conical side wall  101  is not directly attached to prior art trim  100 . 
       FIG.  1 D  is a bottom view of a prior art example of a flanged trim  150  installed into the bottom of a given ceiling  153 . Downlight trim has often traditionally included a flange  151  component, wherein once this flanged trim  150  is installed in a given ceiling  153 , from below the flange  151  may be visible, as well as underside portions of a reflector  155 , and underside portions of the light module&#39;s lens  157  that may be installed above ceiling  153  and installed above flange  151 . In contrast, embodiments of the present invention are directed to flangeless trim, i.e., downlight trim (and associated components) that are without (free of) such flanges as prior art flange  151 . 
       FIG.  2 A  depicts a top perspective of a flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  2 B  depicts a slightly different top perspective of flangeless trim assembly  200 . In some embodiments, flangeless trim assembly  200  may be configured for installing a reflector  223 , with an attached lighting module assembly  500 , behind ceiling drywall, but without a traditional flange member that may be visible from the underside of the ceiling, hence the term, “flangeless.” Traditional ceiling lighting modules may the traditional flange member that overlaps the underside of the ceiling and that circumscribes the hole where the reflector and lighting module are located above the ceiling. In flangeless trim assembly  200 , this traditional flange member is absent and is replaced by spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, flangeless trim assembly  200  may comprise: spackle-frame  201  and a trim  321 . Note, reference numeral  321  for trim  321  is shown in  FIG.  3 B . In some embodiments, trim  321  may comprise: reflector  223 , a holding-plate  241 , and at least one fastener  259 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, spackle-frame  201  may be configured to be attached to an underside of a given ceiling (e.g., drywall) and mounted to that ceiling underside with screws and with spackle. In some embodiments, such spackle may be used to cover over holes and/or defects in the drywall with a plaster or a plaster like compound. In some embodiments, such spackle may also be referred to as mud, joint compound, plaster, and/or the like. In some embodiments, such spackle is often a white color. In some embodiments, spackle-frame  201  may be mostly/substantially a disc member with one largest central hole  202  that may be hollow. In some embodiments, surrounding largest central hole  202  may be the disc member and the disc member may comprise a plurality of apertures (holes)  203 . In some embodiments, diameters of apertures  203  may be smaller than a diameter of largest central hole  202 . In some embodiments, aperture  203  may be a through hole that may pass entirely through the disc member portion of spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, apertures  203  may be configured to receive spackle and/or a screw. In some embodiments, apertures  203  are used to attach spackle-frame  201  to the ceiling&#39;s underside with screws and spackle. Once spackle-frame  201  is attached to the ceiling&#39;s underside, the disc member portion and apertures  203  of spackle-frame  201  should no longer be visible and only largest central hole  202  of spackle-frame  201  should be visible. Spackle-frame  201  is intended to be permanently installed to the ceiling&#39;s underside, using screws and spackle. 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, spackle-frame  201  may comprise at least one coupler  207 . In some embodiments, coupler  207  may be attached to the disc member and/or to largest central hole  202 . In some embodiments, coupler  207  may be configured to facilitate removable attachment of reflector  223  and/or trim  321  (and/or what may be attached to reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , such as lighting module assembly  500 ) to spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, coupler  207  may be attached to a top portion of the disc member of spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, coupler  207  may also be a disc member, but with a raised (cylindrical) side wall  209  and with a surrounding flange  215 . In some embodiments, flange  215  of coupler  207  may be attached to the top of the disc member of spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, side wall  209  may extend upwards away from the flange  215  and away from the disc member of spackle-frame  201 , a fixed and finite distance, ending at top-opening  211 . In some embodiments, side wall  209  may be substantially cylindrical in shape. In some embodiments, side wall  209  may provide structural regions of attachment for the removable attachment of reflector  223  and/or trim  321  (and/or what may be attached to reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , such as lighting module assembly  500 ) to spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, top-opening  211  may be an opening at a top of coupler  207  and/or at a top of side wall  209 . In some embodiments, top-opening  211  may be disposed away from flange  215  and/or away from the disc member of spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, the inside diameter of largest central hole  202  and an inside diameter of top-opening  211  may be the same or similar. In some embodiments, the inside diameter of largest central hole  202  and/or the inside diameter of top-opening  211  may size to fit outside diameters: of reflector  223 , holding-plate  241 , and/or of lighting module assembly  500 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, reflector  223  may be a reflector. In some embodiments, reflector  223  may be configured to function as a reflector. In some embodiments, reflector  223  may be configured for use in/with a ceiling downlight assembly or the like. In some embodiments, reflector  223  may have a substantially/mostly conical frustum shape and/or a truncated cone shape—that may be hollow. In some embodiments, reflector  223  may comprise a (conical) side-wall  225 . In some embodiments, side-wall  225  may be substantially/mostly conical frustum in shape and/or form a truncated cone in shape—that may be hollow. In some embodiments, reflector  223  may be open at a top and open at a bottom of reflector  223 . In some embodiments, reflector  223  may comprise both a top hole (e.g., smaller-top-opening  401  noted in  FIG.  4 A ) and an oppositely disposed bottom hole (e.g., larger-bottom-opening  403  noted in  FIG.  4 A ); wherein the top hole and the bottom hole are separated from each other by side-wall  209 . In some embodiments, reflector  223  may be hollow. In some embodiments, the top hole of reflector  223  may be smaller in diameter than the bottom hole of reflector  223 . In some embodiments, a shape of side-wall  225  may be substantially/mostly conical, conical frustum, truncated cone, and/or the like. In some embodiments, side-wall  225  may circumscribe a hollow volume. In some embodiments, an interior of side-wall  225  may be configured to function as a reflector. In some embodiments, the interior of side-wall  225  may be shiny and/or smooth. 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, side-wall  225  may comprise at least two protrusions-of-side-wall  227 . In some embodiments, “protrusions-of-side-wall  227 ” may also be referred to as “stepped-protrusion  227 .” In some embodiments, side-wall  225  may comprise three protrusions-of-side-wall  227  that are equally spaced apart/around side-wall  225 . In some embodiments, side-wall  225  may comprise three protrusions-of-side-wall  227  that are spaced apart/around from each other by about 120 degrees (plus or minus five (5) degrees). In some embodiments, side-wall  225  may comprise four protrusions-of-side-wall  227  that are equally spaced apart/around side-wall  225 . In some embodiments, side-wall  225  may comprise four protrusions-of-side-wall  227  that are spaced apart/around from each other by about ninety (90) degrees (plus or minus five (5) degrees). In some embodiments, each protrusion-of-side-wall  227  has a stepped-face comprised of a top-stepped-face  231  and a bottom-stepped-face  335 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, each protrusion-of-side-wall  227  may comprise at least one clip  239 . In some embodiments, each bottom-stepped-face  335  may comprise at least one clip  239 . In some embodiments, each bottom-stepped-face  335  may be configured to receive and/or house the at least one clip  239 . In some embodiments, clip  239  may be a spring clip (but not a helix/coiled spring) and/or a tension clip. In some embodiments, clip  239  may be configured to removably attach reflector  223  to side wall  209  of coupler  207 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, holding-plate  241  may be configured to provide structure (e.g., aperture  247 ) for receiving attachment of lighting module assembly  500  and may also be configured to provide additional/different structure (e.g., aperture  255 ) for attaching holding-plate  241  to reflector  223 . In some embodiments, “holding-plate  241 ” may also be referred to as “mounting-plate  241 .” In some embodiments, a shape of holding-plate  241  may be similar to a shape of coupler  207 ; however, holding-plate  241  may have smaller diameters than diameters of coupler  207 . In some embodiments, holding-plate  241  may be attached to a top of reflector  223  using one or more fasteners  259  passing through aperture(s)  255  of flange  253  of holding-plate  241  and into aperture(s)  333  (shown in  FIG.  3 A  and in  FIG.  4 A ) of reflector  223 . In some embodiments, holding-plate  241  may be a third disc member (different from the disc members of spackle-frame  201  and coupler  207 ), with a raised (cylindrical) side wall  243  and with a surrounding flange  253 . In some embodiments, side wall  243  may extend upwards a fixed and finite distance from flange  253  and ending at top-opening  245  of side wall  243 . In some embodiments, side wall  243  may be substantially/most cylindrical in shape; however, side wall  243  may comprise one or more vertically running rib(s)  249 . In some embodiments, rib  249  may provide additional structural strength to side wall  243 . In some embodiments, top-opening  245  may be define a substantially/mostly circular top opening to holding-plate  241 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, side wall  243  may comprise at least one aperture  247 . In some embodiments, side wall  243  may comprise at least two apertures  247 . In some embodiments, side wall  243  may comprise two apertures  247  that are oppositely disposed from each other in side wall  243 . In some embodiments, located adjacent on each side of aperture  247  may be two vertical parallel ribs  249 . In some embodiments, aperture  247  may be a through hole, passing entirely through side wall  243 . In some embodiments, aperture  247  may be configured to receive at least a portion of a set-fastener  507 , for a purpose of securing lighting module assembly  500  to holding-plate  241 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, flange  253  (of holding-plate  241 ) may comprise at least one aperture  255 . In some embodiments, flange  253  may comprise a quantity of apertures  255  that matches a quantity of protrusions-of-side-wall  227  of reflector  223 . In some embodiments, flange  253  may comprise one, two, three, or four apertures  255 . In some embodiments, apertures  225  in flange  253  may be spaced equally apart from each other. In some embodiments, flange  253  may comprise three apertures  255  that may be spaced apart from each other by about 120 degrees (plus or minus five (5) degrees). In some embodiments, aperture  255  may be a through hole that may be pass entirely through flange  255 . In some embodiments, aperture  255  may be configured to receive at least a portion of fastener  259  therein. In some embodiments, aperture(s)  255  may be how holding-plate  241  may be attached to the top of reflector  223 , using fastener(s)  259 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, an outside edge of flange  253  (of holding-plate  241 ) may comprise one or more protrusions-of-flange  257 . In some embodiments,  257  may be configured for use in attaching various mating structures to holding-plate  241 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, fastener  259  may be configured to attach holding-plate  241  to the top of reflector  223 . In some embodiments, fastener  259  may be a mechanical fastener. In some embodiments, fastener  259  may be a screw and/or a bolt. In some embodiments, fastener  259  may comprise a head at one terminal end of fastener  259 . In some embodiments, the head of fastener  259  may be located above a shaft of fastener  259 . In some embodiments, the shaft of fastener  259  may not be threaded. In some embodiments, only a terminal end portion of the shaft of fastener  259 , disposed away from the head, may be threaded. In some embodiments, the terminal end that is opposing the head of fastener  259  may be threaded. In some embodiments, the shaft portion(s) of a given mechanical fastener  259  may be configured to pass through aperture  255  (of flange  253 ) and/or through receiving-aperture  1009  (of flanged-base  1007 ). See also,  FIG.  3 A  and  FIG.  3 B  and  FIG.  10 A . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, a quantity of fasteners  259  may match a quantity of protrusions-of-side-wall  227  and/or apertures  255 . In some embodiments, trim  321  may comprise at least one fastener  259 . In some embodiments, trim  321  may comprise one, two, three, or four fasteners  259 . In some embodiments, flangeless trim assembly  200  may comprise at least one fastener  259 . In some embodiments, flangeless trim assembly  200  may comprise one, two, three, or four fasteners  259 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , in some embodiments, trim  321  may comprise at least one spring  261 . In some embodiments, spring  261  may be a helical/coiled spring. In some embodiments, spring  261  may be configured to be fitted around a shaft portion of fastener  259 . In some embodiments, spring  261  may be located around the shaft portion of fastener  259  and disposed beneath the head of fastener  259  and above flange  253 . In some embodiments, spring  261  may be trapped around the shaft portion of fastener  259  and disposed beneath the head of fastener  259  and above flange  253 . In some embodiments, fastener  259  and its associated spring  261  may permit up and down travel motion between the top of reflector  223  and holding-plate  241 , along the shaft of fastener  259  and for a finite distance of the length of the shaft or less (wherein in some embodiments, this distance may be gap  601 ). In some embodiments, a quantity of springs  261  may match a quantity of protrusions-of-side-wall  227 , apertures  255 , and/or fasteners  259 . In some embodiments, trim  321  may comprise one, two, three, or four springs  261 . In some embodiments, flangeless trim assembly  200  may comprise at least one springs  261 . In some embodiments, flangeless trim assembly  200  may comprise one, two, three, or four springs  261 . 
       FIG.  2 C  depicts a bottom perspective of a flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  2 D  depicts a slightly different bottom perspective of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  2 E  depicts a yet another slightly different bottom perspective of flangeless trim assembly  200 . From  FIG.  2 C ,  FIG.  2 D , and/or  FIG.  2 E , groove(s)  205  of a bottom of spackle-frame  201  may be visible. In some embodiments, a bottom of the disc member of spackle-frame  201  may comprise one or more groove(s)  205 . In some embodiments, a bottom of the disc member of spackle-frame  201  may comprise a plurality of grooves  205 . In some embodiments, groove  205  may be configured to receive spackle. In some embodiments, groove  205  may provide structure and/or texture for spackle to grip, bond, and/or adhere to. 
       FIG.  2 D  and  FIG.  2 E  show that the top of reflector  223  butts up against a bottom of flange  253  of holding-plate  241 , when holding-plate  241  may be attached to reflector  223  using fastener(S)  259  and spring(s)  261 , and when an external force is not overcoming the spring force of spring(s)  261 . 
       FIG.  2 F  depicts a top view of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  2 F  shows an inside-ledge  251  of holding-plate  241 . In some embodiments, holding-plate  241  may comprise inside-ledge  251 . In some embodiments, inside-ledge  251  may be an annular ridge/ledge that runs substantially/mostly circularly within the main largest central opening of holding-plate  241 . In some embodiments, inside-ledge  251  may be configured to provide a stopping point and/or a supportive structure for a bottom portion of lighting module assembly  500  that may be received inside of the main largest central opening of holding-plate  241 . 
       FIG.  2 G  depicts a bottom view of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  2 G  may be an opposing view to  FIG.  2 F . From  FIG.  2 G , grooves  205  and through apertures  203  of spackle-flange  201  may be seen. From  FIG.  2 G , the interior/bottom facing surfaces of reflector  223 , which may be smooth, shiny, and/or reflective, may be seen. Note, when flangeless trim assembly  200  may be installed in ceiling&#39;s underside, and the disc member of spackle-flange  201  spackled to that ceiling&#39;s underside, the disc member of spackle-flange  201  may no longer be visible (because of the spackling), but the interior/bottom facing surfaces of reflector  223  may still be visible from the bottom as shown in  FIG.  2 G . 
       FIG.  2 H  depicts a left-side view of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  2 I  depicts a right-side view of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  2 I  and  FIG.  2 H  may be opposing views from each other.  FIG.  2 J  depicts a front view of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  2 K  depicts a rear (back) view of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  2 J  and  FIG.  2 K  may be opposing views from each other.  FIG.  2 H  through  FIG.  2 K  all show diameter-of-side-wall  213  of side wall  209  of coupler  207 . In some embodiments, diameter-of-side-wall  213  may be diameter of side wall  209  of coupler  207 . In some embodiments, diameter-of-side-wall  213  may be about a same size as largest central hole  202  of spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, outside diameters of reflector  223 , holding-plate  241 , and/or lighting module assembly  500  may be less than diameter-of-side-wall  213 . In some embodiments, when reflector  223  may be removably attached to coupler  207  of spackle-frame  201 , via clip(s)  239 , at least a portion of clip(s)  239  may rest on top of top-opening  211  of side wall  209  of coupler  207 . In some embodiments, when reflector  223  may be removably attached to coupler  207  of spackle-frame  201 , via clip(s)  239 , at least a portion of clip(s)  239  may extend beyond top-opening  211  of side wall  209  of coupler  207  to an outside edge/surface of side wall  209 . 
       FIG.  3 A  depicts an exploded top perspective view of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  3 A  shows aperture  333  of protrusion-of-side-wall  227 . In some embodiments, protrusion-of-side-wall  227  may comprise at least one aperture  333 . In some embodiments, on a top of protrusion-of-side-wall  227  may be least one aperture  333 . In some embodiments, top-stepped-face  231  may comprise at least one aperture  333 . In some embodiments, on a top of top-stepped-face  231  may be least one aperture  333 . In some embodiments, aperture  333  may be a (threaded) hole, that extends partially into  231 . In some embodiments, a length of aperture  333  may be substantially parallel with common longitudinal/axial center of flangeless trim assembly  200 . In some embodiments, aperture  333  may be configured to receive a distal (threaded) portion of fastener  259 . In some embodiments, aperture  333  may be complimentary threaded with respect to distal threading of fastener  259 , such that the distal threaded portion of fastener  259  may be threaded and attached to aperture  333 . In some embodiments, aperture  333  may not extend all the way through side-wall  225 , such that aperture(s)  333  are not visible from bottom views of reflector  223 ; see e.g.,  FIG.  2 G  which does not show any aperture(s)  333  visible. 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  3 A , in some embodiments, a face of protrusion-of-side-wall  227  may be a flat surface that faces radially away from the common longitudinal/axial center of flangeless trim assembly  200 . In some embodiments, the faces (top-stepped-face  231  and bottom-stepped-face  335 ) of protrusion-of-side-wall  227  may be stepped. In some embodiments, protrusion-of-side-wall  227  may comprise two stepped faces, top-stepped-face  231  and bottom-stepped-face  335 . In some embodiments, top-stepped-face  231  may be located above bottom-stepped-face  335 . In some embodiments, bottom-stepped-face  335  may be located below top-stepped-face  231 . In some embodiments, top-stepped-face  231  may be located closer to the top of reflector  223  and further away from the bottom of reflector  223 , as compared to bottom-stepped-face  335 . In some embodiments, bottom-stepped-face  335  may be located closer to the bottom of reflector  223  and further away from the top of reflector  223 , as compared to top-stepped-face  231 . In some embodiments, top-stepped-face  231  may be located closer to the common longitudinal/axial center of flangeless trim assembly  200 , than bottom-stepped-face  335  is. In some embodiments, bottom-stepped-face  335  may be located further away from the common longitudinal/axial center of flangeless trim assembly  200 , than top-stepped-face  231  is. Whereas, in contrast, non-stepped faces  105  of prior art trim  100  may all be located a same distance from the common longitudinal/axial center of prior art trim  100 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  3 A , in some embodiments, the flat face of top-stepped-face  231  (of protrusion-of-side-wall  227 ) may be substantially smooth and/or flat. In some embodiments, the flat face of top-stepped-face  231  may be substantially/mostly orthogonal to the top of top-stepped-face  231 . In some embodiments, the flat face of top-stepped-face  231  may be in a vertical plane; while the top of top-stepped-face  231  may be in a horizontal plane. In some embodiments, the flat face of top-stepped-face  231  (of protrusion-of-side-wall  227 ) may be free of (without): apertures that extend radially into the flat face of top-stepped-face  231 ; holes that extend radially into the flat face of top-stepped-face  231 ; protrusions that protrude radially out from the flat face of top-stepped-face  231 ; extensions that extend radially out from the flat face of top-stepped-face  231 ; ball-bearings that protrude radially out from the flat face of top-stepped-face  231 , and/or spring-loaded ball-bearings that protrude radially out from the flat face of top-stepped-face  231 ; whereas, the top of top-stepped-face  231  may comprise the at least one aperture  333 . In some embodiments, protrusion-of-side-wall  227  may be free of (without) spring-loaded ball-bearings that extend radially out past a face of protrusion-of-side-wall  227 . In some embodiments, the faces (top-stepped-face  231  and bottom-stepped-face  335 ) of protrusion-of-side-wall  227  may be stepped; whereas, the single face of non-stepped face  105  of protrusion  103  of prior art trim  100  may not be stepped. 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  3 A , in some embodiments, bottom-stepped-face  335  may comprise clip-receiver  337 . In some embodiments, at least one clip-receiver  337  may be located on bottom-stepped-face  335 . In some embodiments, clip-receiver  337  may be configured to receive and/or house at least one clip  239 . In some embodiments, clip  239  may extend radially outwards, away from the common longitudinal/axial center of flangeless trim assembly  200 , and from a bottom of bottom-stepped-face  335 . Whereas, in contrast, prior art spring-loaded ball bearing  107  extend radially outwards away from the common longitudinal/axial center of prior art trim  100 , and from a top of non-stepped face  105  of prior art trim  100 . 
     Note at least some clip(s)  239  are not shown in  FIG.  3 A , but are shown in other figures, such as, but not limited to  FIG.  3 B ,  FIG.  2 I , and  FIG.  4 A . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  3 A , in some embodiments, the shaft of fastener  259  may not be threaded. In some embodiments, the entirety shaft of fastener  259  may not be threaded. In some embodiments, only a terminal end portion of the shaft of fastener  259 , disposed away from the head of fastener  259 , may be threaded. In some embodiments, the terminal end that is opposing the head of fastener  259  may be threaded. See also,  FIG.  3 B . 
       FIG.  3 B  depicts an exploded bottom perspective view of flangeless trim assembly  200 . In some embodiments, flangeless trim assembly  200  may comprise at least one trim  321 .  FIG.  3 B  may show that trim  321  may be a subassembly comprising at least one reflector  223  and at least one holding-plate  241 . In some embodiments, trim  321  may comprise: at least one reflector  223 , at least one holding-plate  241 , and one clip  239  per each protrusion-of-side-wall  227 . In some embodiments, trim  321  may comprise: at least one reflector  223 , at least one holding-plate  241 , one clip  239  per each protrusion-of-side-wall  227 , and one fastener  259  per each protrusion-of-side-wall  227 . In some embodiments, trim  321  may comprise: at least one reflector  223 , at least one holding-plate  241 , one clip  239  per each protrusion-of-side-wall  227 , one fastener  259  per each protrusion-of-side-wall  227 , and one spring  261  per each fastener  259 . In some embodiments, trim  331  may have a common longitudinal/axial center. In some embodiments, components and/or parts of trim  331  may share a common longitudinal/axial center. 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  3 B , in some embodiments, reflector  223  may be removably attached to coupler  207  of spackle-frame  201 , by portions of clip(s)  239  of reflector  223  resting on top of top-opening  211  of coupler  207  of spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, clip(s)  239  may be attached to bottom-stepped-face  335  at clip-receiver(s)  337 . In some embodiments, to disengage clip  239 , to detach reflector  223  from coupler  207 , a human finger (or the like) may be used to press a top portion of clip  239  inwards towards the common longitudinal/axial center of flangeless trim assembly  200  and away from top-opening  211  of coupler  207  of spackle-frame  201 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  3 B , in some embodiments, holding-plate  241  may be attached to reflector  223 , by a portion of fastener  259  running through aperture  255  of flange  253  of holding-plate  241  and by a distal and different portion of that same fastener  259  being received into aperture  333  of the top of top-stepped-face  231  of protrusion-of-side-wall  227  of reflector  223 . 
       FIG.  4 A  through  FIG.  4 G  may depict reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , but without showing holding-plate  241  from various views. 
       FIG.  4 A  depicts a top perspective view of reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , but without holding-plate  241 . Some top-stepped-faces  231  may be seen in  FIG.  4 A  as portions of protrusions-of-side-wall  227 . In  FIG.  4 A , apertures  333  may be shown on top of a portion of top-stepped-face  231 , but not on the sides nor face of top-stepped-face  231 . These apertures  333  may be configured to each receive a single terminal/distal portion of a given fastener  259 . These apertures  333  may each receive a single terminal/distal portion of a given fastener  259 . Sides and the face of top-stepped-faces  231 , that may be substantially/mostly orthogonal to the top of top-stepped-faces  231 , may be entirely free of (without): holes; apertures; projections; extensions; ball-bearings; spring-loaded ball-bearings; portions thereof; combinations thereof; and/or the like. Some bottom-stepped-faces  335  may be seen in  FIG.  4 A  as different portions of protrusions-of-side-wall  227 . Each bottom-stepped-faces  335  may comprise a clip-receiver  337 . Each clip-receiver  337  may comprise at least one clip  239 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  4 A , in some embodiments, reflector  223  may comprise smaller-top-opening  401  and larger-bottom-opening  403 . In some embodiments, smaller-top-opening  401  and larger-bottom-opening  403  may be vertically oppositely disposed from each other. In some embodiments, both smaller-top-opening  401  and larger-bottom-opening  403  are circular openings. In some embodiments, a diameter of smaller-top-opening  401  may be smaller than a diameter of larger-bottom-opening  403 . In some embodiments, tops of top-stepped-faces  231  may be substantially/mostly flush with a same plane that smaller-top-opening  401  resides in. In some embodiments, a given aperture  333  on a top of top-stepped-face  231  may be located closer to the face of top-stepped-face  231  and further away from smaller-top-opening  401 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  4 A , in some embodiments, reflector  223  may comprise side-wall  225  and at least one stepped-protrusion  227 . In some embodiments, side-wall  225  may form a conical frustum shape that may be hollow, with a smaller-top-opening  401  defining a top of reflector  223  and a larger-bottom-opening  403  defining a bottom of reflector  223 . In some embodiments, smaller-top-opening  401  and larger-bottom-opening  403  may be disposed opposite from each other with side-wall  225  located between smaller-top-opening  401  and larger-bottom-opening  403 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  4 A , in some embodiments, stepped-protrusion  227  may extend out of an exterior of side-wall  225 , in an upward direction from the bottom of the reflector  223  and in a radial direction outwards away from the exterior of the side-wall  225 . In some embodiments, stepped-protrusion  227  may have two different faces that occupy different planes from each other, wherein the different planes are both perpendicular to a radial direction; wherein the radial direction is from outwards in a linear line from a longitudinal center of reflector  223 . In some embodiments, these two different faces of stepped-protrusion  227  may be top-stepped-face  231  and bottom-stepped-face  335 . In some embodiments, top-stepped-face  231  may be located above bottom-stepped-face  335 . In some embodiments, top-stepped-face  231  may be located closer to the smaller-top-opening  401  than the bottom-stepped-face is. In some embodiments, bottom-stepped-face  335  may be located closer to larger-bottom-opening  403  than the top-stepped-face  231  is. In some embodiments, top-stepped-face  231  may be located closer to the longitudinal center of the reflector  223  than bottom-stepped-face  335 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  4 A , in some embodiments, bottom-stepped-face  335  may comprise clip-receiver  337  that may be configured to house and hold a portion of clip  239 . In some embodiments, stepped-protrusion  227  and/or bottom-stepped-face  335  may comprise clip  239 , wherein the portion of clip  239  may be housed and held within clip-receiver  337 . In some embodiments, a different portion of clip  239  may be configured to removably engage top-opening  211  of spackle-frame  201 ; and thereby removably attach reflector  223  to spackle-frame  201 . In some embodiments, top-stepped-face  231  and/or stepped-protrusion  227  may comprise a top surface. In some embodiments, this top surface of stepped-protrusion  227  may be substantially/mostly orthogonal to sides of stepped-protrusion  227 , top-stepped-face  231 , and/or bottom-stepped-face  335 . In some embodiments, this top surface may comprise aperture  333 , wherein aperture  333  may be configured to receive a distal portion (threaded portion) of fastener  259 . In some embodiments, interior walls of aperture  333  may have inside threading that may be complementary to threading of fastener  259 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  4 A , in some embodiments, stepped-protrusion  227  may be present on a given reflector  223  in a quantity of three distinct stepped-protrusions  227 , wherein these stepped-protrusions  227  may be spaced apart equally from each other by about 120 degrees (plus or minus five (5) degrees). In other embodiments, there may be two equally spaced apart stepped-protrusions  227 . In other embodiments, there may be four stepped-protrusions  227  spaced apart from each other by about ninety (90) degrees (plus or minus five (5) degrees). In some embodiments, there may be one fastener  259  for each stepped-protrusion  227  present in reflector  223 . In some embodiments, there may be one spring  261  for each fastener  259 . 
       FIG.  4 B  depicts a left-side view of reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , but without holding-plate  241 . Compare  FIG.  4 B  to  FIG.  2 H , as  FIG.  2 H  is also a left-side view, but of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  4 C  depicts a right-side view of reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , but without holding-plate  241 . Compare  FIG.  4 C  to  FIG.  2 I , as  FIG.  2 I  is also a right-side view, but of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  4 B  and in  FIG.  4 C  show that a portion of clip(s)  239  may extend beyond an outermost portion of larger-bottom-opening  403 ; which in turn may facilitate clip(s)  239  ability to grab onto a top of top-opening  211  of coupler  207  of spackle-frame  201 . 
       FIG.  4 D  depicts a front view of reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , but without holding-plate  241 . Compare  FIG.  4 D  to  FIG.  2 J , as  FIG.  2 J  is also a front view, but of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  4 E  depicts a back (rear) view of reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , but without holding-plate  241 . Compare  FIG.  4 E  to  FIG.  2 K , as  FIG.  2 K  is also a back (rear) view, but of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  4 D  and  FIG.  4 E  show smaller-diameter  405  of smaller-top-opening  401  and larger-diameter  407  of larger-bottom-opening  403 . Smaller-diameter  405  may be smaller than larger-diameter  407 . Larger-diameter  407  may be larger than smaller-diameter  405 . 
       FIG.  4 F  depicts a top view of reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , but without holding-plate  241 . Compare  FIG.  4 F  to  FIG.  2 F , as  FIG.  2 F  is also a top view, but of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  4 G  depicts a bottom view of reflector  223  and/or trim  321 , but without holding-plate  241 . Compare  FIG.  4 G  to  FIG.  2 G , as  FIG.  2 G  is also a bottom view, but of flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  4 F  and  FIG.  4 G  both show that portions of clips  239  may extend/protrude out beyond larger-bottom-opening  403  and/or larger-diameter  407 . 
       FIG.  5    depicts a partial top perspective view of a lighting module assembly  500  attached to flangeless trim assembly  200 .  FIG.  5    depicts a partial top perspective view of a lighting module assembly  500  attached to holding-plate  241 . In some embodiments, lighting module assembly  500  may be a lighting module, a LED (light emitting diode) lighting module, an integrated lighting module, portions thereof, combinations thereof, and/or the like; wherein when the such lighting module has access to appropriate electrical power, that given lighting module may emit light. In some embodiments, lighting module assembly  500  may comprise: a heat sink module  501 , a driver (driver cap)  503 , and a lens holder  505  (with lens). Note, a top/upper portion of driver (driver cap)  503  may be omitted in  FIG.  5   . In some embodiments, lens holder  505  may comprise a LED chip (i.e., a LED integrated circuit) that may be configured for emitting light when appropriately electrically powered. In some embodiments, driver  503  may regulate and/or control overall electrical power received to driver  503  and then provide appropriate electrical power to lens holder  505 . In some embodiments, heat sink module  501  may help to emit heat generated by driver  503  and/or by lens holder  505 , away from lighting module assembly  500  and/or away from heat sink module  501 . 
     Continuing discussing  FIG.  5   , in some embodiments, at least a portion of lighting module assembly  500  may be attached to holding-plate  241 . In some embodiments, one or more set-fastener(s)  507  may be used to secure the at least the portion of lighting module assembly  500  to holding-plate  241 . In some embodiments, this attachment may occur by passing a middle portion of set-fastener(s)  507  through aperture(s)  247  of holding-plate  241 , with a distal/terminal portion of set-fastener(s)  507  then frictionally engaging the at least a portion of lighting module assembly  500 . In some embodiments, set-fastener(s)  507  may be used to secure/attach lens holder  505  to holding-plate  241  (e.g., via use of aperture(s)  247  of holding-plate  241  and set-fastener(s)  507 ). In some embodiments, set-fastener  507  may be a mechanical fastener. In some embodiments, set-fastener  507  may be a set screw. In some embodiments, flangeless trim assembly  200 , trim  331 , holding-plate  241 , lighting module assembly  500 , and/or lens holder  505  may comprise set-fastener(s)  507 . 
     In some embodiments, when lighting module assembly  500  may be attached to holding-plate  241 , all of lighting module assembly  500 , all of holding-plate  241 , and at least most of reflector  223  may be located above the ceiling where spackle-frame  201  may be attached to that ceiling&#39;s bottom surface. 
     In some embodiments, when lighting module assembly  500  may be attached to holding-plate  241 , lighting module assembly  500  along with trim  331  may be moved/translated together as a common/single assembly. 
     In some embodiments, when lighting module assembly  500  may be attached to holding-plate  241 , lighting module assembly  500  along with trim  331  may be moved/translated together as a common/single assembly, separate from spackle-frame  201 , wherein spackle-frame  201  may be permanently attached to a ceiling&#39;s underside (bottom surface). This arrangement may be facilitated by the attachment between holding-plate  241  and lighting module assembly  500 ; and by the removable attachment between reflector  223  and coupler  207  (e.g., by virtue of clip(s)  239  of reflector  223 ). 
       FIG.  6    depicts a top perspective view of flangeless trim assembly  200 . However,  FIG.  6    differs from  FIG.  2 A  and  FIG.  2 B , which are also top perspective views of flangeless trim assembly  200 , by showing how holding-plate  241  may be separated from reflector  223 , but while holding-plate  241  is still attached to reflector  223 . In some embodiments, while holding-plate  241  may be attached to reflector  223 , a bottom of flange  253  of holding-plate  241  may be separated from the top of reflector  223 , up to a fixed and finite distance, denoted by reference numeral  601 . In some embodiments, reference numeral  601  may refer to (variable) gap-between-plate-holder-and-reflector  601 . In some embodiments, this movement of holding-plate  241  away from reflector  223  may be accomplished by pushing holding-plate  241  and reflector  223  away from each other with a force that exceeds the force exerted by spring(s)  261 . Recall, holding-plate  241  is attached to reflector  223 , by distal/terminal ends of fasteners  259  being received into apertures  333  of reflector  223 , while shaft portions of fasteners  259  pass through apertures  255  of holding-plate  241 , and with springs  261  being disposed around upper shaft portions of fasteners  259  between flange  253  of holding-plate  241  and heads of the fasteners  259 . In this situation, without any external forces applied to trim  331 , the bottom of flange  253  butts up against the top of reflector  223 , by virtue of the forces exerted by the springs  261 . However, when an opposing force that is greater than the force of the springs  261  is imparted to trim  331 , then holding-plate  241  may be separated from reflector  223 , by (variable) gap-between-plate-holder-and-reflector  601 , but while holding-plate  241  is still attached to reflector  223 . In some embodiments, a direction of travel between reflector  223  and holding-plate  241  may be substantially/mostly parallel with a length direction that fastener(s)  259  run, which may be substantially/mostly parallel with common longitudinal/axial center of flangeless trim assembly  200 ; and/or a common longitudinal/axial center of trim  331 . In some embodiments, a maximum of (variable) gap-between-plate-holder-and-reflector  601  is limited to how far spring  261  may be compressed and by the length of fastener(s)  259 . 
       FIG.  7    depicts a top perspective view of lighting module assembly  500  attached to holding-plate  241 , and with (variable) gap-between-plate-holder-and-reflector  601  present. Note, when holding-plate  241  and reflector  223  are moved with respect to each other along shafts of fastener(s)  259 , holding-plate  241  may or may not be attached to lighting module assembly  500 . In some embodiments, when holding-plate  241  may be attached to lighting module assembly  500 , holding-plate  241  along with attached lighting module assembly  500  may be moved up and down with respect to reflector  223 , along shafts of fastener(s)  259 . 
     Note, when holding-plate  241  and reflector  223  are moved with respect to each other along shafts of fastener(s)  259 , reflector  223  may or may not be removably attached to coupler  207 . Thus, reflector  223 , with attached holding-plate  241 , with lighting module assembly  500  attached to holding-plate  241 , may be moved independently and in any direction with respect to coupler  207  of spackle-plate  201  (which may be fixed and mounted to ceiling&#39;s underside); and this movement may occur with (variable) gap-between-plate-holder-and-reflector  601  present or absent. 
       FIG.  8    depicts a top perspective view (similar to  FIG.  6   ) with gap  601  between holding-plate  241  and reflector  223 , along with finger(s)  801  of a person (human) inserted and/or causing gap  601 . Portions of hand/palm  803  of that human may also be seen in  FIG.  8   . In some embodiments, when holding-plate  241  may be attached to reflector  223 , gap  601  may be caused and/or maintained by fingers  801  generating the force necessary to overcome the force of springs  261 . Thus, gap  601  may be formed and/or maintained without use of tools, aside from human finger(s)  801 . Further, once gap  601  is formed and maintained by finger(s)  801 , at least one of those same finger(s)  801  or other finger(s) may be used to engage or disengage clip(s)  239  from coupler  207 . Thus, without tools, aside from finger(s)  801 , an assembly of trim  331  attached to lighting module assembly  500  may be installed/attached to coupler  207 , by pushing this assembly into the main/largest central hole(s) of mounted spackle-frame  201  until clip(s)  239  engage with top-opening  211  of coupler  207 ; also without tools, aside from finger(s)  801 , the assembly of trim  331  attached to lighting module assembly  500  may be removed from coupler  207  (and from spackle-frame  201 ), by finger(s)  801  forming gap  601 , by finger(s)  801  disengaging clip(s)  239  from top-opening  211  of coupler  207 , and then by pulling this entire assembly down and out of the main/largest central hole(s) of mounted spackle-frame  201 . 
       FIG.  9    depicts a bottom view of flangeless trim assembly  200  installed into the bottom surface  901  (underside) of a given ceiling; wherein spackle and/or paint is entirely covering over the disc member portions of spackle-frame  201  so that the disc member of spackle-frame  201  is no longer visible from below; and wherein lighting module assembly  500  is attached to holding-plate  241 . Thus, all that can be seen by a person below such an installation may be the underside of reflector  223 , underside portions of lens holder  205  (i.e., underside portions of the lens), and perhaps a small portion of holding-plate  241 . The reflector  223  will look to be installed seamlessly with respect to that ceiling&#39;s bottom surface  901  (underside), i.e., without a trim flange. And if one wanted to remove the assembly of trim  331  attached to lighting module assembly  500 , one could do so with only finger(s)  801 , by starting by forming gap  601 . 
       FIG.  10 A  depicts a reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  that does not use (include) an intermediary holding-plate  241  (mounting-plate  241 ) disposed between the reflector  223  and the lighting module  1001 , shown from a top perspective view.  FIG.  10 B  shows reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  from another top perspective view.  FIG.  10 C  shows reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  from a side or a rear view.  FIG.  10 D  shows reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  from a slight bottom perspective view.  FIG.  10 E  shows reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  from a bottom perspective view (note shows reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  is shown upside down in  FIG.  10 E , i.e., with the bottom portion of reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  closer to the figure&#39;s header than the top portion).  FIG.  10 F  shows reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  from another bottom perspective view. In some embodiments, reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  may comprise at least one reflector  223  and at least one lighting module  1001 , but no holding-plate  241  (mounting-plate  241 ). In some embodiments, reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  may comprise at least one reflector  223  and at least one lighting module  1001 , at least one mechanical fastener  259 , and at least one spring  261 —but no holding-plate  241  (mounting-plate  241 ). In some embodiments, lighting module  1001  may have some similar structures and/or geometry as that of holding-plate  241 , to enable attachment of lighting module  1001  to reflector  223  in a similar fashion as holding-plate  241  may be attached to reflector  223 . In some embodiments, reflector  223  of reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  may be the same reflector  223  as in flangeless trim assembly  200 . For example, reflector  223  of reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  may be removably attached to spackle-frame  201  just as reflector  223  of flangeless trim assembly  200  may be removably attached to spackle-frame  201  as described above. 
     In some embodiments, lighting module  1001  may comprise driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003 . In some embodiments, driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003  may function substantially similarly to heat sink module  501  and/or to driver cap  503 . In some embodiments, driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003  may have heat sink functionality and/or LED (light emitting diode) electronics driver functionality. In some embodiments, driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003  may be housed within a substantially cylindrical member with substantially cylindrical side-wall  1005 . In some embodiments, driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003  and/or side-wall  1005  may have a flanged-base  1007  at a bottom of driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003  and/or at a bottom of side-wall  1005 . In some embodiments, flanged-base  1007  may be an annular flange member of driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003  and located at a bottom of driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003 . In some embodiments, flanged-base  1007  may have an outside diameter that is greater than an outside diameter of side-wall  1005 . In some embodiments, flanged-base  1007  may be substantially similar to flange  253 , in terms of function, purpose, structure, and/or geometry. See e.g.,  FIG.  10 A  through and including  FIG.  10 F . 
     In some embodiments, flanged-base  1007  may comprise one or more receiving-aperture(s)  1009 . In some embodiments, receiving-aperture  1009  may be a through-hole that passes entirely through flanged-base  1007 . In some embodiments, flanged-base  1007  may comprise a quantity of receiving-aperture(s)  1009  that corresponds to a quantity of: protrusion-of-side-wall(s)  227  (stepped-protrusion(s)  227 ) in reflector  223  and/or mechanical fastener(s)  259 . In some embodiments, receiving-aperture  1009  may be configured to receive a portion (e.g., shaft portion) of a given mechanical fastener  259 . In some embodiments, flanged-base  1007  may comprise one or more indenture(s)  1010 . In some embodiments, indenture  1010  may be located on a bottom side of flanged-base  1007  and proximate, next to, and/or adjacent to each receiving-aperture  1009  (e.g., within a half-inch of a given receiving-aperture  1009 ). In some embodiments, receiving-aperture  1009  may also pass through a portion of indenture  1010 . In some embodiments, indenture  1010  may be an indentation, indenture, and/or cutout into an underside portion of flanged-base  1007 . In some embodiments, a height of indenture  1010  may be less than a thickness/height of flanged-base  1007 . In some embodiments, indenture  1010  may have a width that is sized to fit a top portion of top-stepped-face  231  of stepped-protrusion  227 , as in a tongue and groove fit. In some embodiments, indenture  1010  may have a width that is sized to fit a top portion of stepped-protrusion  227 , as in a tongue and groove fit. In some embodiments, indenture  1010  may be configured to assist and/or to facilitate fitment and/or attachment of flanged-base  1007  to reflector  223 . See e.g.,  FIG.  10 A  through and including  FIG.  10 F . 
     In some embodiments, side-wall  1005  may comprise one or more fin(s)  1011 . In some embodiments, fin(s)  1011  may be protrusions/extensions extending outwardly from an exterior surface of side-wall  1005 . In some embodiments, fin(s)  1011  may be configured to dissipate and/or radiate heat away from fin(s)  1011  and/or from driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003 . In some embodiments, fin(s)  1011  may be configured to dissipate and/or radiate heat away electronics of lighting module  1001 . In some embodiments, driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003  may be substantially closed on top  1013  of driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003 . In some embodiments, top  1013  and flanged-base  1007  may be oppositely disposed from each other on driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003 , separated from each other by a height of side-wall  1005 . See e.g.,  FIG.  10 A  through and including  FIG.  10 F . 
     In some embodiments, lighting module  1001  and/or driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003  may comprise at least one cable  1015 . In some embodiments, cable  1015  may extend out from side-wall  1005  and/or from top  1013 . In some embodiments, cable  1015  may be configured to bring in electricity (from an exterior source) to lighting module  1001  and/or to driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003 . In some embodiments, lighting module  1001  and/or driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003  may comprise at least one lens  1017 . 
     In some embodiments, at least one lens  1017  may be located at least mostly inside of lighting module  1001  and/or of driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003 . 
     In some embodiments, at least one lens  1017  may be located at least mostly inside of and/or at least mostly surrounded by side-wall  1005 . 
     In some embodiments, lens  1017  may comprise a LED chip and/or the like. In reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000 , at least some portions of bottom exterior of lens  1017  may be visible from below reflector  223 . In some embodiments, lens  1017  may be substantially similar to lens  505 . See e.g.,  FIG.  10 A  through and including  FIG.  10 F . 
     In some embodiments, reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  may comprise a quantity of mechanical fastener(s)  259  that may correspond to a quantity of protrusion-of-side-wall(s)  227  (stepped-protrusion(s)  227 ) in reflector  223 . In some embodiments, reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  may comprise a quantity of spring(s)  261  that may correspond to a quantity of mechanical fastener(s)  259 . In some embodiments, a given spring  261  may be disposed/trapped between a head of mechanical fastener  259  and a top of flanged-base  1007 ; and with the shaft portion of that mechanical fastener  259  being disposed within the hollow middle of the given spring  261 . In some embodiments, when the spring forces of the spring(s)  261  are not being overcome, a bottom of flanged-base  1007  may rest on top of and in direct physical contact with of the top of reflector  223  (and this may be the default resting configuration for reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000 ). In some embodiments, when the spring forces of the spring(s)  261  are being overcome, a bottom of flanged-base  1007  may be separated by a formed gap (similar to gap  601 ) from the top of reflector  223 ; and human finger(s)  801  may be inserted into this gap so that the top of the reflector  223  may be gripped by the human finger(s)  801  and the entirety of reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000  may be moved down out of spackle-frame  201 . See e.g.,  FIG.  10 A  through and including  FIG.  10 F  and replace holding-plate  241  in  FIG.  6    with lighting module  1001 . 
     Some embodiments of the present invention may be a lighting system. In some embodiments, a lighting system may comprise flangeless trim assembly  200  and lighting module assembly  500 . In some embodiments, a lighting system may comprise trim  331  and lighting module assembly  500 . In some embodiments, a lighting system may comprise spackle-frame  201 , trim  331 , and lighting module assembly  500 . In some embodiments, a lighting system may comprise spackle-frame  201  and trim  331 . In some embodiments, a lighting system may comprise reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000 . In some embodiments, a lighting system may comprise spackle-frame  201  and reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000 . 
     In some embodiments, a trim, a flangeless trim, flangeless trim assembly  200 , and/or the like, may be configured for use in downlight scenarios/applications. In some embodiments, the trim, the flangeless trim, flangeless trim assembly  200 , and/or the like may comprise reflector  223  and holding-plate  241 . 
     In some embodiments, holding-plate  241  may be attached to reflector  223 . In some embodiments, holding-plate  241  may be configured to attach to lighting module  500 . In some embodiments, holding-plate  241  may comprise cylindrical-side-wall  243  that is attached to flange  253 . In some embodiments, cylindrical-side-wall  243  may comprise first means for attaching to lighting module  500 . In some embodiments, flange  253  may comprise second means for attaching to reflector  223 . See e.g.,  FIG.  2 A  through  FIG.  3 B  and  FIG.  5   . 
     In some embodiments, the first means may be aperture  247  that may be located on cylindrical-side-wall  243 . In some embodiments, aperture  247  may run entirely through a portion of cylindrical-side-wall  243 . In some embodiments, aperture  247  may be configured to receive a portion of set-fastener  507 . In some embodiments, set-fastener  507  may be configured for frictionally engaging a portion of lighting module  500  such that lighting module  500  may be attached to holding-plate  241 . See e.g.,  FIG.  5   . 
     In some embodiments, wherein the second means may be aperture  255  that may be located on the flange  253 . In some embodiments, may run entirely through a portion of the flange  253 . In some embodiments, aperture  255  may be configured to receive a portion of fastener  259 . In some embodiments, fastener  259  may be configured for securing the flange  253  (of holding-plate  241 ) to reflector  223 . In some embodiments, the trim, the flangeless trim, flangeless trim assembly  200 , and/or the like may comprise fastener  259 . In some embodiments, fastener may be configured to attach holding-plate  241  to reflector  223  by a portion of fastener  259  running through the second means and a different portion of fastener  259  attaching to reflector  223 . In some embodiments, a quantity of fastener  259 , aperture  255 , and a quantity of the stepped-protrusion  227  may match each other. In some embodiments, fastener  259  may comprise a head, a shaft, and a distal-end. In some embodiments, a diameter of the head may be bigger than a diameter of the shaft. In some embodiments, the shaft links the head to the distal-end. In some embodiments, at least a portion of the shaft and/or of the distal-end comprises outside threading. In some embodiments, the portion of fastener  259  that may run through the second means may be a portion of the shaft. In some embodiments, the different portion of fastener  259  that may attach to reflector  223  (e.g., at aperture  333 ) may be the distal-end of fastener  259 . See e.g.,  FIG.  2 A  through  FIG.  4 G . 
     In some embodiments, when reflector  223  may be attached to holding-plate  241  by fastener(s)  259 , linear sliding movement between reflector  223  and holding-plate  241  along at least some length of fastener(s)  259  may be permitted. See e.g.,  FIG.  6    through  FIG.  8   . 
     In some embodiments, the trim, the flangeless trim, flangeless trim assembly  200 , and/or the like may comprise helical spring(s)  261 . In some embodiments, helical spring  261  may be located around the shaft of a given fastener  259  and disposed between the head of the given fastener  259  and the top of reflector  223 . In some embodiments, a force of helical spring(s)  261  may cause the bottom of holding-plate  241  (e.g., the bottom of flange  253 ) to butt up against the top of reflector  223 . See e.g.,  FIG.  2 A  through  FIG.  3 B . 
     In some embodiments, when an opposing force, that opposes the force of helical spring(s)  261 , may be applied to helical spring(s)  261  and may be stronger than the force of helical spring(s)  261 , then reflector  223  may separate from the holding-plate  241 , by (variable) gap  601 , along at least some length of fastener(s)  259 , but while the holding-plate  241  remains attached to reflector  223 . This opposing force may be imparted by one or more human fingers. See e.g.,  FIG.  6    through  FIG.  8   . 
     In some embodiments, lens  505  and/or lens  1017  may be able to be articulated, rotated, swiveled, portions thereof, combinations thereof, and/or the like with respect to one or more of: reflector  223 , heat sink module  501 , driver cap  503 , lighting module  1001 , driver-cap-and/or-heat-sink  1003 , portions thereof, combinations thereof, and/or the like. 
     In some embodiments, the reflector (e.g., reflector  223 ) may have more of a cylindrical side-wall than a conical frustum shaped side-wall; and in such embodiments, the top-opening may be about the same size as the bottom-opening to that substantially shaped cylindrical side-walled reflector. 
     In some embodiments, at least some of the parts, components, structures, geometries, and/or the like, of flangeless trim assembly  200  and/or of reflector-and-light-module-subassembly  1000 , aside from clips  239  and springs  261 , may be one or more of: rigid, substantially rigid, painted, powder coated, made at least substantially of metal, made at least substantially of plastic, made at least substantially of ceramic, made at least substantially of wood, made at least substantially of composites, portions thereof, combinations thereof, and/or the like. 
     Note, no humans nor portions thereof are claimed. And claims should not be interpreted to claiming a human or a portion thereof. However, humans may use the embodiments disclosed and discussed herein. And the embodiments disclosed and discussed herein may be configured for use by humans or portions thereof. 
     Downlight trim, flangeless trim, flangeless trim assemblies, lighting modules, and lighting systems have been described. The foregoing description of the various exemplary embodiments of the invention has been presented for the purposes of illustration and disclosure. It is not intended to be exhaustive or to limit the invention to the precise form disclosed. Many modifications and variations are possible in light of the above teaching without departing from the spirit of the invention. 
     While the invention has been described in connection with what is presently considered to be the most practical and preferred embodiments, it is to be understood that the invention is not to be limited to the disclosed embodiments, but on the contrary, is intended to cover various modifications and equivalent arrangements included within the spirit and scope of the appended claims.