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	that you were there uh on one hand !!!!! because I think that it would be most expedient !!!!! But I think !!!!! what was felt !!!!! was that at this point !!!!! rather than ha !!!!! than create
	and and I also said !!!!! that it would probably !!!!! be brought up !!!!! at board retreat !!!!! or !!!!! DI don't know
	I'm gonna write a letter to Teresa !!!!! Uh
	just to tell her that l
	d Thank you for your l !!!!! you know
	and just say !!!!! you know !!!!! I'm hoping !!!!! us
	you know !!!!! she want !!!!! she didn't really want her things to be kind of everywhere
	what her comments
	her summary !!!!! th you know !!!!! She
	I don't know if she put it together !!!!! or if Nancy put it together
	that just says !!!!! uh they !!!!! I d !!!!! I really had a ho !!!!! everybody there !!!!! including Nancy
	Uh had very little to to !!!!! uh you know !!!!! to agree with the validity
	It was a matter of !!!!! I just don't !!!!! uh you know
	you know !!!!! these are
	Um !!!!! Teresa is a very sensitive person !!!!! she f !!!!! you know !!!!! uh I don't !!!!! I have no doubt that she believes !!!!! what happened happened
	My my feeling is !!!!! as I told them !!!!! I said !!!!! if it's that issue !!!!! I says !!!!! you know !!!!! I said let's just get real here
	we all know Brad !!!!! I said !!!!! we all know Teresa !!!!! I said !!!!! Teresa
	I says !!!!! of that nature !!!!! I said
	there !!!!! it was very clear !!!!! You know !!!!! She kept saying !!!!! prefacing everything with !!!!! you know !!!!! this is not a personal attack
	that it is !!!!! Yeah !!!!! That's immediately what it said
	I'll te !!!!! well it goes back to !!!!! if you can believe it I ha !!!!! I know she !!!!! there was a a !!!!! We had a number of people once !!!!! at a party !!!!! uh !!!!! like half of the board
	and I know !!!!! she felt really snubbed
	and it was !!!!! and I I called her in fact !!!!! later !!!!! And I said Teresa !!!!! Thi this was not a w
	you know !!!!! a confrontation !!!!! by any means !!!!! but
	I think it was two years ago !!!!! And I know !!!!! I mean that wa really upset her !!!!! And jeez !!!!! If that's gonna upset her
	that see and the other thing that I've gotta do !!!!! too !!!!! is I wanna make sure !!!!! like !!!!! for example !!!!! Donna's aware that she is not gonna be at this retreat
	Yeah !!!!! You know !!!!! we're having a board retreat
	that it's not gonna include staff !!!!! if that's what we decide !!!!! Right !!!!! Unhunh
	is I think !!!!! what we're gonna probably wanna do !!!!! or what I would like to do !!!!! is I would like to take a day
	and we'll just take a whole day !!!!! That day !!!!! And myself !!!!! uh !!!!! if we have a uh facilitator !!!!! Mhm
	that that person !!!!! you and Patricia and uh D Donna !!!!! Mhm !!!!! and maybe one other !!!!! or two other board members would !!!!! actually spend that day and just say okay
	they wanna be able to just kind of uh figure out !!!!! I think our board eh !!!!! quite frankly we have more problems to resolve interior
	These were comments !!!!! uh these are the ones that we feel we can address
	That that there may be a number of questions !!!!! that just cannot be answered
	uh !!!!! I bet Pat's gonna !!!!! she's gonna start walking back to the office
	Cause I !!!!! she'll be
	I don't know if you have plans or not !!!!! But
	at noon
	you wanna do it
	what's the !!!!! I uh !!!!! you know !!!!! I don't !!!!! my my feeling is !!!!! I'm trying to !!!!! I think !!!!! what I wanna do !!!!! is !!!!! my my point of wanting to push this retreat !!!!! I think it was really important was
	to make it sound like we're taking it seriously
	you know !!!!! Like I said d d the facilitator !!!!! in in the beginning !!!!! I did not !!!!! wasn't really in support of one
	but it's also say !!!!! I want it to come to the resolution that !!!!! things aren't that bad !!!!! Mhm
	what we !!!!! and things aren't that bad
	you know !!!!! even what Ray's attitude with with Barbara
	you know and I'm
	I had !!!!! you know !!!!! I came real close to calling Ray
	you know !!!!! we've done everything we needed to do !!!!! Right !!!!! Right !!!!! I think !!!!! you know !!!!! what Barbara told me was that !!!!! Dolores was incredibly embarrassed !!!!! by his display !!!!! at this time in front of her
	Oh gosh !!!!! you know
	because he's been miserable
	because
	that's why he was kept trying to get involved and make it sound !!!!! you know !!!!! like he !!!!! and n_you know !!!!! he was trying to make it sound like !!!!! same old complaint !!!!! same old everything !!!!! well
	uh you know !!!!! like I said !!!!! what we need to do !!!!! is this board has to realize !!!!! in my opinion that !!!!! that they have to come to grips with !!!!! the fact that they are responsible !!!!! for basically what they've created
	ago
	Yeah !!!!! Yeah !!!!! Because !!!!! and it wasn't so much !!!!! it wasn't !!!!! you know like I told Jim
	I said !!!!! it was a matter of !!!!! you know !!!!! Brad did !!!!! uh and Pat did !!!!! the organization !!!!! I said !!!!! which was the best thing
	It was a_lot_of time
	we need to !!!!! we need to d establish duties !!!!! Mhm !!!!! You know !!!!! Which we decided !!!!! And see part of what we decided with these duties is !!!!! just deciding !!!!! what we need to do what !!!!! You know
	See and I'm I'm !!!!! secretary is responsible for the minutes
	I know !!!!! There's
	I !!!!! you know !!!!! and I think we wanna do that !!!!! We need to say !!!!! You know !!!!! Pat's been great enough to do this !!!!! uh and if she really wants to do it
	that I mentioned to Jim !!!!! and I've mentioned it to Pat lightly !!!!! Yeah
	You know !!!!! like in board meetings !!!!! In interjecting too much
	Because in board discussion !!!!! I mean
	as a member she has every right !!!!! To to speak what she wants
	No
	you know !!!!! I've just seen some of the looks !!!!! from some of the people !!!!! you know !!!!! who feel
	the board you know !!!!! if they don't interject anything !!!!! but whether they do or not !!!!! I think we have to be careful !!!!! Mhm !!!!! Well Phil !!!!! that
	It !!!!! Yeah !!!!! it does
	what I try to do
	and if I need to fill in blanks
	That !!!!! But !!!!! See but that !!!!! your !!!!! your position is different
	is a much more official capacity !!!!! because you are the one who answers to the board !!!!! Yeah !!!!! Right !!!!! You have to do that !!!!! And you are th can voice an opinion about things
	I dropped her off at the bookkeeper
	But the biggest deal !!!!! where I thought it uh was an issue !!!!! th where I heard things about it was !!!!! during the annual meeting !!!!! right after !!!!! when we had the discussion about the poster
	well this is a great piece !!!!! and this is this !!!!! Well !!!!! Yeah !!!!! you know
	But I just saw
	Yeah
	uh you know !!!!! cause that's not part of her capacity
	and if she wants !!!!! you know !!!!! uh basically the thing is !!!!! you know !!!!! if she wanted to be a board person !!!!! Mhm !!!!! That's fine
	Right !!!!! that !!!!! he feels there's a conflict !!!!! And uh
	There's no question about it
	and maybe it's right
	You know !!!!! Well he !!!!! d !!!!! I mean he doesn't seem to
	you know !!!!! after the board retreat
	But not
	I wanted him !!!!! I said I want you to stay through the board retreat
	and the reason is !!!!! because I said we need people who know !!!!! I said right now we have !!!!! You know !!!!! four new board members
	and the thing is I mean
	whatever !!!!! Four new board
	we're at this point of saying okay !!!!! Uh
	we have t all these !!!!! you know
	and we have this commitment of time !!!!! Uh !!!!! and but they don't know !!!!! everything that's gone on
	this retreat !!!!! that's why you see !!!!! I think it's important !!!!! Because !!!!! I mean I realized !!!!! that I'd never seen the bylaws
	Right !!!!! Yeah !!!!! Now what I !!!!! what I have done though !!!!! is to !!!!! you know !!!!! any new board member that jumps on !!!!! I send them !!!!! Good
	but we have to realize that there's !!!!! the faults here !!!!! we have to claim responsibilities
	I'm gonna !!!!! I wanna draft a letter
	this is what we're doing !!!!! this is the purpose of this retreat
	and !!!!! you know !!!!! board members !!!!! for a while it was !!!!! we need to find out what it is we're doing