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### Human: RV Step 1 Session 1, 16th of the 2nd 2017. .. Yeah. So I got a bit of information from what you've talked to my colleagues about. But yeah, I just thought I'd start by asking you what you're kind of wanting to get out of coming in and working together and what your main concerns are at the moment.### Assistant: I'm not 100% sure what the session's about. I'm not sure if it's about what I was talking with earlier, or?

### Human: Because she asked you lots of different questions, didn't she?### Assistant: Yeah.

### Human: Yeah. Yeah. So it can really be whatever. We can talk about whatever you want. I got a little bit of background that there's been a transition in the family recently, and that's been causing all the stress for you. And then you were probably talking to me about different perceptions and stuff. Is that what you were referring to?### Assistant: Yeah.

### Human: Yeah. I mean, it's really up to you. What do you feel like you would like to focus on? There might be other things that I just didn't mention. Yeah. Yeah. It's a collaborative process. And we work together but, yeah, really driven by you about what you think is important.### Assistant: It's a bit hard. I don't know. maybe for something else.

### Human: Yep. I hope I didn't put too much pressure on to say it's all open.### Assistant: No. It's all right. I honestly don't know what to start off with.

### Human: Okay. Maybe I'll just ask. How have things been going? Because I think you probably came in a few weeks ago to see me initially, right?### Assistant: Oh, I think the first session, we-- the first session I had here was with you. And then the other ones were with me.

### Human: Yeah. Yeah. So it's probably been a little while since you first initially came in. So I've heard from you a bit, from what's been going on. So maybe you could fill me in about how the last few weeks have been or how you've been going.### Assistant: The last few weeks have been well, probably better than most weeks. It's a bit muddled up with switching back between mom and dad's house, so different bus stops and lots of stuff, bringing things to dad's, bringing things from dad's to mom, sort of making sure you've got everything, chargers, that sort of thing. And it hasn't been that bad. It hasn't been that busy. Normally, it's a lot busier than that. We've started out football training.

### Human: Oh, cool. Is that with school or club?### Assistant: For our local club, yeah.

### Human: Oh, cool.### Assistant: That started yesterday.

### Human: Yep. How did you find that?### Assistant: It was good. It's starting to get a lot busier now. We're getting into football season and back into school. We're starting to get into school sports. We're starting to get into projects at school, that sort of thing. So I think just starting to-- yeah, just getting into--

### Human: It's a new year, kind of.### Assistant: Yeah, getting into doing that sort of stuff like football training and going to school and all that sort of stuff. So it's taking me a while because I've been in holiday mode for a long time.

### Human: Yeah, yeah. It's hard to start up again, isn't it, after the holidays?### Assistant: Yeah. Because you've got nothing over that period of time. And then coming back to school, you're like, "Ah."

### Human: Yeah. You have to get up a lot earlier, probably.### Assistant: Yeah, I do.

### Human: Do you like to sleep in over the holidays?### Assistant: Yeah. It was really good. Especially the fact that the early waking up and late coming home--

### Human: Because you have footies after school or homework or--### Assistant: Footies after school on a Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday.

### Human: That's pretty full-on.### Assistant: Yeah. And I've got school hockey on Wednesday as well.

### Human: You play hockey.### Assistant: Yeah, for the school.

### Human: Cool. Yeah. Awesome.### Assistant: And I play three-- well, I do three sessions of sport each week at school.

### Human: Really? Does your--?### Assistant: I have three days with sport on it, so.

### Human: Your school, do they have a special focus on sport, or do you just happen to know?### Assistant: They are into sport a lot. Eating healthy and being active, that sort of thing, they're really focused on that. And they have courses there where you can focus on sport and the different aspects of it. But school sport, everyone tries out for. So you'd pick a sport that you think you'll be interested in, and then you do it. So I did hockey last year, which is interesting.

### Human: Yeah. Had you ever played before then, or?### Assistant: Mom plays hockey, and I sort of hit around a bit, not a lot. I knew how to hit, that sort of thing, but not a lot about the game. And I sort of just picked it up along the way.

### Human: Oh, cool. So you're a bit of a natural at sport, it sounds like.### Assistant: I do a lot of sport, especially during winter. Winter is when we really do get a lot of sport. Because in winter, there's a lot more winter sports at school. And with football, I have football, which is just up at the school. And we train all through the year except during club football.

### Human: Is the club linked with one of the AFL clubs? Is that right?### Assistant: Yep. You play then, and you go into the TAC cup for them, and then you get drafted from there to a team.

### Human: Oh, wow.### Assistant: And you go from the TAC cup. And hopefully, if you get far enough, you go to the AFL.

### Human: Is that what you want to do?### Assistant: Yeah.

### Human: Yeah, cool.### Assistant: I'm really working hard. It's been a dream for ages and ages. I think playing football, I started when I was in prep, starting probably about-- I think I was five. When we were born, we had-- we didn't get to pick a team or anything. Mom and dad were both football supporters. So we were sort of destined to be football supporters.

### Human: Yeah. From birth?### Assistant: Yeah. We had footballs. We had beanies. We had jumpers, all that sort of stuff. So football has been around for ages. We've always been into football. We did oskie up until we were nine. And then we started doing club football at the age of nine and have done it ever since.

### Human: Yeah, cool.### Assistant: So yeah, it's pretty good.

### Human: It sounds like, yeah, you're doing pretty well at it to be doing the right stuff.### Assistant: Yeah. It's taken a lot of practice-- taken a lot of practice with kicking. Kicking was all right. It wasn't very good. But yeah, it's taken a while, but I've gotten there.

### Human: So--### Assistant: And ever since, I think, around 13, that's when we first heard about football. And that's what most of the people in our age group sort of strive to go to. So you try your hardest, and they have people that come out and watch games.

### Human: Like scouts, kind of?### Assistant: Yeah. And we have people at the club. Also, we've got a guy in the club that watches. He's part of the team. And he used to coach a few times, and he's always around the football club.

### Human: So he knows the players well for maybe being part of the club.### Assistant: Yeah. He's always watching. He's there the first game till the end of the game. And he's there all the time. He coached a few times. I think he coached three or four years. And then I think he's sort of gotten more into the game, so. Yeah. But he's been a part of that. And he sort of recommends to look at a certain group or certain people. So the scouts come out, then, and watch, so. Yeah. When it's getting closer to winter break, we're getting into football. So otherwise, we do

### Human: Yep. The preseason's starting now. Because it would be, what, April or something, you'd probably start playing games, just a guess, or?### Assistant: I'm not 100% sure. But we only started club football yesterday, and we started playing in-- I think it was the 31st of January.

### Human: Oh, right. So you've already been going a bit for that. Yeah.### Assistant: I've had a few sessions with them, which have been good. Especially coming back from-- yeah. Especially coming back from the summer holidays, you're not doing a lot. You're not doing a lot of exercises. You sort of get into the swing of things eventually. And I think the first three weeks of school, I was overloaded with doing sport at school, doing sports, doing school sports, now to do club football. I'm sort of overcrowded by sport at the moment. Yeah. I enjoy it. It's always been a s

### Human: Oh, cool.### Assistant: And our other uncle played for us for a few years.

### Human: Oh, wow.### Assistant: So football has been in the family--

### Human: Strong in the family.### Assistant: --for a long time. Yeah.

### Human: Are they on your mom's side or your dad's?### Assistant: They're on my dad's side.

### Human: Okay. Cool. Yeah.### Assistant: We'd always be kicking the football around with cousins and all that sort of stuff. So football has really been in the family.

### Human: From the start, yeah. And do your uncles give you tips and stuff like that?### Assistant: Yeah, they did. We don't see them a lot anymore because it's a bit hard coming to school and finding time, especially when one of them lives in town. And so it's a bit hard. But we keep in contact. And when they're down, we'd go watch the match. And we'd go get tickets, and we'd see them after the game, that sort of thing, so.

### Human: Oh, cool.### Assistant: Yeah. We try to see them as much as we can, I guess.

### Human: Yep. Yeah. Awesome. And that sounds like, yeah, it's been an important part of your life so far and, hopefully, your future with the dream to play AFL.### Assistant: Yeah. We've got to really work hard because it started off with 180 kids in the squad. I think it's down to 80 or something.

### Human: Wow.### Assistant: And only two get drafted.

### Human: Oh, gosh.### Assistant: So it's a big competition. So to make it all the way to 18s-- only two get drafted, which is pretty-- it would be--

### Human: A tough competition?### Assistant: Yeah. Especially when you look at all these kids, you have no idea how many people are out there that are really, really good footballers, so. But yeah, we're just going to have to work hard and hope I get there, hopefully. But yeah, I'm really excited to get back into the swing of things. We started school on the 31st as well. I'm pretty sure. So going back into school, I think, the 31st, Tuesday, I think--

### Human: Okay. Oh, I can't remember back now.### Assistant: So yeah, I think I got back to school, and I was doing sport already with friends and then also doing the sport sessions at school as well.

### Human: Yep. So--### Assistant: So yeah, I got really hammered with sport, but I enjoy it. I guess you got to enjoy it to do it.

### Human: Yeah. I mean, it's normal, though. You really enjoy some parts of it, and you might find it a bit overwhelming as well. Is that kind of what you experience?### Assistant: Sometimes I feel like I get swallowed with sport. It feels like I'm always doing it, which I don't complain about. But sometimes by the end of the week, I get home, just lie down because I've done so much sport.

### Human: Exhausted. Yeah.### Assistant: But--

### Human: Does your body get really tired?### Assistant: It gets very sore, especially coming off school holidays. But my muscles are sort of getting used to running around and that sort of stuff. But the first day coming back from school, I was so sore. I could hardly walk.

### Human: Oh, no.### Assistant: Yeah. But I'm getting used to it. Yeah. It took, I think, two or three days to get used to it. I couldn't walk for a long time, just get home, sit on the couch. And that'd be it.

### Human: Yep. Yeah, fair enough.### Assistant: So--

### Human: It sounds pretty exhausting.### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I enjoy it. And it gets me doing things so I'm not always at home. And sometimes home can get really boring when you've got nothing to do. Sitting in front of the TV, playing video games, it gets really repetitive, especially when I come home every single day and play it. Especially just over the school holidays, that was all I did, so it got a bit boring, but. Yeah.

### Human: Yep. Is it just you and your twin brother in your family?### Assistant: Yep.

### Human: Yeah. And her kids?### Assistant: So it's dad, mom, dad, and I. And at dad's house, it's dad's girlfriend with her three kids.

### Human: Three kids, wow. Okay.### Assistant: She's got a fourth, but he doesn't come around a lot.

### Human: Okay. He doesn't live there?### Assistant: No, he doesn't live there. Only two live there. Two girls live there, and the two boys live at their dad's. Yeah. That's how things are familywise at the moment. Mom's planning on moving closer to here. dad is in college. So mom wanted to move closer there.

### Human: Okay. And I understand you're moving out of your family home - is that right? - to move there.### Assistant: Yeah. So we move out of there, and we move, hopefully, closer to home, maybe a bit further out. I'm not sure. And I think dad stays in there. I'm not 100% sure. I think he will, though. Yeah. I think that's been the past three weeks so far, talking about moving, looking at the house, that sort of stuff.

### Human: Are you helping your mom look at places and stuff like that?### Assistant: Well, mom wants to build. And so she's looking at working out our room and what the house is going to look like, all that sort of stuff, what things will look like entertainmentwise like the TV, couches, beds, what bed we want, yeah, all that sort of stuff.

### Human: Do you like being involved in that process, or how does that feel?### Assistant: I guess it's a bit-- I don't like to bring it up a lot. Because we're moving out of the house I've been in-- I have no idea. I think I've only been in there for-- I think I've only been in there 15-- I think I've only been in that house for 14 years.

### Human: 14 years, yep.### Assistant: I think we lived in it for a year. I'm not 100% sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's all right. But I know that it's just what happens, I guess. I'm not too fazed about it. I guess you don't have to-- the house isn't really something. It's just who lives in the house, I guess. So that's how I look at it.

### Human: So your home is with your family, as opposed to in that particular house. Is that what you mean?### Assistant: Sort of the house isn't a part of us, so it's sort of just something that we live in. It's not something that if we move that house, everything is going to-- but things do change, but it's not going to be the end of the world.

### Human: Yep. Sure.### Assistant: As long as it's just seeing mom and dad, I don't really care where I live or what I do. So yeah.

### Human: Yep. So the important thing to you is that you're still spending time with your mom and dad--### Assistant: Yeah.

### Human: --regardless of where you're physically living.### Assistant: Yeah. Where I'm living doesn't really matter. But it's whether or not I see mom and dad all the time. So yeah.

### Human: Is that a worry at the moment, about whether you will see mom and dad enough, or are you--?### Assistant: We do go to court soon - I'm not 100% sure - to figure out housing and also living, so how many days we spend with mom, how many days we spend with dad, whether we live at mom's, whether we live at dad's. So we're just going through that sort of stuff. Yeah. I think after that, it'll be a bit easier because we'll finally figure out what to do with the house. And it'll, I guess, become a lot clearer than muddled up like this and what about this and all that sort of stuff, so.

### Human: It's up in the air at the moment. Is that why it feels a bit muddled? Because you're not sure when you're going to be--### Assistant: Yeah. The--

### Human: --back and forth?### Assistant: --moving and all that sort of stuff has been going on for ages. Ever since, we moved schools. So yeah, it's been sort of there, but I'm not 100% sure when, where, what dad's going to do, that sort of thing. So it's sort of-- we know what mom's going to do. We're just not sure what dad's going to do.

### Human: In what way do you mean that?### Assistant: Well, when dad gets the money for the house along with mom, I'm not sure what he's going to do. He's going to move house. That's just a bit, in that way, muddled. We're not 100% sure what will happen, so.

### Human: Okay. So from, yeah, selling the house, your mom and dad are going to split the money. And you know your mom's plan is to move near your school and maybe build and set up your home again. And then with dad, you're not sure whether he's going to move house or stay where he is or something.### Assistant: Yeah. Because they're renting at the moment. So whether or not he buys a house or he waits until his girlfriend gets the money for her house, we're not 100% sure yet. So all things are a bit muddled up at the moment. So what happens with dad, we don't know a lot. But with mom, we know a fair bit of what she wants to do, which I guess makes it easier because you know what's happening with mom. It's just finding out what dad wants to do. I don't know what dad-- I don't even know if dad know

### Human: Okay. Yeah. Have you talked to him about it, or are you just kind of waiting to see what happens, or is it easy to talk to him about that stuff or not really?### Assistant: I was going to wait until it comes around to selling the house. So when mom's organized, time to put the house up for auction, all that sort of stuff, I guess I'd speak to him about-- speak to him about it then, what he's doing, what his plans are, that sort of stuff, so.

### Human: Yep. So you're waiting till then?### Assistant: Yeah.

### Human: Yep. Yeah. Do you kind of-- it sounds like it's much easier to know the plan. And with mom, it is a bit clearer. And with dad, you're kind of working out when it's best to talk to him about it and that kind of thing. Does that kind of stress you out, not knowing what's going to happen?### Assistant: Just a bit, not a lot. I know when things become a bit clearer, we'll get a bit more of an understanding of what's happening with mom and dad. But at the moment, it's not exactly clear what's happening. Yeah. When things start happening and that sort of stuff, I guess, yeah, we'll end up finding out what happens then, hopefully.

### Human: Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You seem quite calm. You've got a pretty mature-- you're looking at how that's going to unfold. Is that how you feel?### Assistant: I just know that--

### Human: . patiently.### Assistant: --things were not working out in the end. There are things I don't know, whether it's going to be the way it is, so. But things never can be the way it is. It would always be different. Yeah. Things won't always be muddled up and not knowing that sort of stuff. It'll end up becoming a bit clearer. And things change, and they don't always go very well, so.

### Human: Yep. So you kind of-- yeah. A lot of people don't kind of realize that. If they're going through a challenging time with things going on, lots of people feel like that might last forever. But it sounds like, yeah, you've got this insight that you know it is quite muddled at the moment, but it'll settle. It sounds like you're quite confident that it'll be okay. It'll settle in a way that it'll be okay kind of thing.### Assistant: Yeah. I guess when mom and dad are happy, things will start getting a bit happier. And I think when dad finds a place, when mom builds and all that sort of stuff and finds a place to live, all that sort of stuff, things will start becoming happier, and people won't be so flat like it has been. Some days, you get dad. He's really flat and happy. And mom, you get days that mom's flat and happy. And it'll be a lot clearer, I guess, when we go to dad's, when we go to mom's, that sort of thing, s

### Human: The schedule.### Assistant: --what happens there. And that'll make things happier as well. So when we know where we're living, if we're going to live at mom's or dad's-- I guess what I'm trying to aim for is to get-- looking fortnight, get one week with mom, one week with dad.

### Human: Yep. That's what you'd like to do?### Assistant: Yeah. And I'd like to live with mom. But I guess it's up to-- dad and I have different reasons where we want to live and that sort of stuff, so. But it'll work out in the end. Actually, I know it's all going to work out. Because when we end up moving house, that means that mom can move on. And then when dad gets the money from the house-- yeah. When dad gets some money from the house, he'll end up going around-- we've got to start looking at where we can-- if he wants to buy or he jus

### Human: So do you feel that the house thing, that all would make a big difference for your mom because she'll feel like she can move on from what's happened? Is that what you mean?### Assistant: Yeah. When mom moves house, she'll sort of go-- she'll sort of move on, start at the new house. And when dad gets the money, and where we're going to live, what are we going to do with the money, that sort of thing, so. Yeah.

### Human: So you think, yeah, things will get better when those things happen, kind of.### Assistant: Yeah.

### Human: Yep, yep. And I didn't quite catch what you were saying about your aim to have a week with mom, a week with dad. But then you were also saying you wanted to live with mom. Did you mean full time, or? I didn't quite catch that.### Assistant: Well, I was looking at a fortnight that I'd be at mom's for the first week and the second. So I would be living with at mom's and alternating between dad's, not living at dad's, alternating between mom's.

### Human: Okay. So your home base is more at mom's and then a week at dad's.### Assistant: Yeah. My home base would be more at mom's house, and I'd be going to dad's.

### Human: Yep. Yep. And you and i have different opinions about that.### Assistant: Yeah. He wants to go and live with dad. He can't do that at the moment. So yeah, we're just going to have to see, I guess.

### Human: Yep. Okay. Yeah. And how you were saying about people feeling a bit flat and stuff, I was just curious. How have you been feeling?### Assistant: I have days where I really can't be bothered. But that's rarely. Also, with mom and dad and me, sometimes they get days that they really get angry. They get tense, or they get sad. And they just get flat, or they don't want to talk at all. I get a few days like that where I just can't be bothered talking to anyone. I just want to do my own thing. Yeah. My paranoia sort of plays off a bit. So I'm always tired. I guess I'm never flat and unhappy. It's just I'm always tired, which may c

### Human: Yep. Okay. So yeah, you don't feel flat or unhappy, but you just feel tired?### Assistant: Yeah.

### Human: Yep. Okay. Okay. And what you were saying about the paranoia, is that what you've been speaking to me about, worrying about going out and being attacked or that sort of thing?### Assistant: Yeah. Things have just been going on for ages. I haven't really taken a lot of notice of it. I can't sit outside. I see shadows. I can't go outside at night. Noises at night inside the house really scare me. And I go to bed when I physically can't keep my eyes open, which is normally about 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning and waking up at 6:00 in the morning. So I don't get a lot of sleep.

### Human: Oh, not enough sleep at all, yeah.### Assistant: So I think one time, I stayed up all night because I couldn't go to sleep.

### Human: And was that because of the worries about the noises in the house, that sort of thing?### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. I have a big worry. I make sure doors are locked, make sure windows are closed, that sort of stuff so no one-- I have a big fear of someone being inside the house. It's just something that I've had for a while and the shadows and the noises. I feel like people are touching me. I feel like someone's breathing on the back of my neck, all that sort of stuff. Yeah. It really, really plays off a lot. So yeah, it just makes me tired. I'm falling asleep in class. So yeah, it drains me a

### Human: Yep. Is that easy because it's daytime, sleeping on the bus?### Assistant: I can sleep during the day. Noises during the day-- I just can't be alone outside.

### Human: Okay. In the day as well?### Assistant: Yeah. But otherwise, I can walk with anyone. I can go outside if someone else is outside and can see me. I can do a lot more in the day. I can sleep during the day. Noises, I don't really take much notice of. It's more at night which I really struggle to get to sleep.

### Human: Yeah. Sure. Yep. And you said that's been going on for ages. How old were you were when it started?### Assistant: Jeez. I think it's been going on for five, six years.

### Human: Five or six years?### Assistant: 15. Maybe at nine.

### Human: Since age nine?### Assistant: Yeah. I think so. That'd be six, seven years, maybe. At least six years, it's been going on for.

### Human: Yeah, way long.### Assistant: I haven't really taken a lot of notice of it, so. It's gotten worse as I've gone on. It started off with shadows and then went further on to not being able to sleep, and the noises really frighten me, and it's gotten to the point where I cannot go to sleep. Sometimes I'd just be able to ignore the noise. I'd be able to ignore it and just go to sleep. And that happened for a while. And it's been, I think, past three and a half years that it's been really bad, the fact that I have to be physic

### Human: In class and class?### Assistant: Yeah.

### Human: Yeah. That's a bit rough. What if you fall asleep in class? Does that cause problems? Do you get in trouble or anything?### Assistant: I get behind.

### Human: Get behind, yeah.### Assistant: I sort of miss out on the information that I need. If I'm feeling tired during a class we're not doing a lot, I sort of tend to-- yeah. I sort of tend to write slowly and sort of really-- I can't be bothered. I hate that sort of stuff. It really makes me feel even more tired. So yeah, it doesn't happen a lot anymore because of how much sport I'm doing. It sort of wakes me up a lot or keeping me awake because I'm doing a lot. Yeah. So we'll eventually find a way to, hopefully, get rid of i

### Human: Yeah, to be able to sleep and--### Assistant: Yeah, to be able to sleep and that sort of stuff, be able to go out at night without all the fears like coming down a dark alleyway. I couldn't even step down a dark alleyway, that sort of thing. Even alleyways during the day, I can't do. Even with someone there, it's just-- yeah. Yeah. It's just those sort of things that sort of-- I can't walk home at night if I was from somewhere, from my friend's home. From my friend's house, I need to walk home. I couldn't, that's sort of thing. So it so

### Human: Yep. So yeah, that limits your independence and, yeah, just being able to do stuff that you want to in a more carefree way, kind of.### Assistant: Yeah.

### Human: Yep. Okay. Thanks for telling me a lot about what's been going on. Yeah. I feel like I got a lot better understanding from talking to you than just from reading notes and stuff from other sessions. Yeah. So it sounds like there's kind of working out or waiting for things to kind of clear up at home and managing with mom and dad and your brother, feeling a bit flat or in different moods at times, and then also managing your whole lot of sport that you're doing. And then there's this sort of p### Assistant: