Court Opinion

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Filed 4/21/20
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                COURT OF APPEAL, FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT

                                     DIVISION ONE

                               STATE OF CALIFORNIA

MICHAEL A. TILKEY,                                D074459

        Plaintiff and Respondent,

        v.                                        (Super. Ct. No. 37-2016-00015545-
                                                  CU-OE-CTL)
ALLSTATE INSURANCE COMPANY,

        Defendant and Appellant.

        APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of San Diego County,

Frederick L. Link, Judge. Affirmed in part; reversed in part.

        Brown Law Group, Janice P. Brown, Arlene R. Yang; Akin Gump Strauss Hauer

& Feld, Rex S. Heinke, Jessica M. Weisel; Cozen & O'Connor, Anneliese Wermuth, and

Jenny R. Goltz, for Defendant and Appellant.

        Edleson & Rezzo, Louis "Chip" Edleson, Joann F. Rezzo; Williams Iagmin and

Jon R. Williams, for Plaintiff and Respondent.

                                    INTRODUCTION

        While Michael Tilkey and his girlfriend Jacqueline Mann were visiting at her

home in Arizona, the two got into an argument. Tilkey decided to leave the apartment.
When he stepped out onto the enclosed patio to collect his cooler, Mann locked the door

behind him. Tilkey banged on the door to regain entry, and Mann called police. Police

arrested Tilkey and charged him under Arizona law with criminal damage deface,

possession or use of drug paraphernalia, and disorderly conduct, disruptive behavior.

Domestic violence charges were attached to the criminal damage and disorderly conduct

charges.

      Tilkey pled guilty to the disorderly conduct charge only, and the other two charges

were dropped. After Tilkey completed a domestic nonviolence diversion program, the

disorderly conduct charge was dismissed. Before the disorderly conduct charge was

dismissed, Tilkey's company of 30 years, Allstate Insurance Company (Allstate),

terminated his employment based on his arrest for a domestic violence offense and his

participation in the diversion program. Allstate informed Tilkey it was discharging him

for threatening behavior and/or acts of physical harm or violence to another person.

Following the termination, Allstate reported its reason for the termination on a Form U5,

filed with Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) and accessible to any firm

that hired licensed broker-dealers like Tilkey. Tilkey sued Allstate for wrongful

termination in violation of Labor Code1 section 432.7 and compelled, self-published

defamation.

1     Further statutory references are to the Labor Code unless otherwise specified.

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       At trial, Allstate presented evidence that it would have terminated his employment

based on after-acquired evidence that Tilkey had circulated obscene and inappropriate e-

mails using company resources.

       The jury returned a verdict in Tilkey's favor on all causes of action and awarded

him $2,663,137 in compensatory damages and $15,978,822 in punitive damages. It

advised the court that it did not find Allstate's after-acquired evidence defense credible,

and the court agreed.

       Allstate appeals the verdicts, contending (1) it did not violate section 432.7 and so

there was no wrongful termination; (2) compelled self-published defamation per se is not

a viable tort theory; (3) it did not defame Tilkey because there is not substantial evidence

its statement was not substantially true; (4) punitive damages are unavailable in

compelled self-publication defamation causes of action; (5) the defamatory statement was

not made with malice; and (6) the punitive damages awarded here were

unconstitutionally excessive.

       We agree that Allstate did not violate section 432.7 when it terminated Tilkey's

employment based on his plea and his participation in an Arizona domestic nonviolence

program and will reverse that judgment. However, we conclude compelled self-

published defamation is a viable theory, and substantial evidence supports the verdict that

the statement was not substantially true, so we will affirm that portion of the judgment.

Additionally, while we conclude punitive damages are available in this instance, the

punitive damages awarded here are not proportionate to the compensatory damages for

defamation, and we will remand the matter for recalculation of the punitive damages.

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                  FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND

      On August 16, 2014, Tilkey was staying with his girlfriend, Mann, and her young

grandson in Arizona. After going out for the evening and drinking, the two began to

argue, and Tilkey decided to leave the home. When Tilkey stepped outside onto the

enclosed patio, Mann closed and locked the patio door, which was a traditional door with

glass panes. Tilkey banged on the patio door, demanding to be let back in so he could

gather his belongings, which were in the bedroom where Mann's grandson was sleeping.

Mann called police.

      When police arrived, Mann told them she did not want Tilkey in the apartment

because she was afraid he would wake up her grandson. Police noted the interior trim on

the framing above the patio door was broken.

      Officers searched Tilkey's travel bag, which contained marijuana and a plastic

container used to smoke marijuana. Police arrested Tilkey and filed three charges against

him: criminal damage deface (Arizona Revised Statute [A.R.S.] § 13-1602A1),

possession or use of drug paraphernalia (A.R.S. § 13-3415A), and disorderly conduct -

disruptive behavior (A.R.S. § 13-2904A1). A domestic violence label was attached to the

criminal damage and disorderly conduct charges.

      On August 31, 2014, Mann sent an e-mail to Tilkey at work mentioning the

charges that had been filed against him. A field compliance employee later discovered

this e-mail while conducting a routine compliance review and forwarded it to Human

Resources (HR). HR professional Tera Alferos conducted the initial investigation; she

interviewed Tilkey December 4, 2014. She noted Tilkey had been asked to accept a plea

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deal to have two of the three charges dropped, then the last one dismissed. She never

spoke with Mann or interviewed the arresting officers. She also did not investigate

Mann's background or review her social media accounts.

      Mann sent an e-mail to Allstate March 3, 2015, which revealed the arrests and

made several other allegations. That same day, the e-mail was shared with Harriet Harty,

Executive Vice President of HR; Christina Metzger, Vice President of HR; and Tyrone

Burno, Director of HR. Alferos added the e-mail to the case file. A couple weeks later,

Alferos sent Burno a summary of her investigation, which stated that the police report

had been reviewed and noted Tilkey had been charged with but not convicted of a crime.

The summary also explained there was no FINRA reporting obligation because there

were no felony charges, and it concluded there had been no violation of company policy.

      On March 31, 2015, Alferos provided Burno with a revised summary of

investigation that added that Tilkey had entered a diversion program for the disorderly

conduct (domestic violence) charge, resulting in a deferred prosecution. Burno then

changed the conclusion to state Tilkey's behavior may have been at a level that caused the

company to lose confidence in him. Burno supplied this version of the summary of

investigation to Metzger, Harty, and Greg Burns, the senior vice president of HR, the

same day.

      At Burno's request, Alferos next added references to the domestic violence charge

because it suggested Tilkey had engaged in behavior that could be construed as acts of

physical harm or violence toward another person, in violation of company policy.

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       On April 16, 2015, Metzger e-mailed Harty stating she and Burns could support a

decision to terminate Tilkey's employment or not. In a May 4, 2015 e-mail referencing

the decision to terminate Tilkey's employment, Metzger wrote that they were amending

the reason for terminating Tilkey to be "violence against another person whether

employed by Allstate or not." Alferos submitted a formal termination request two days

later stating that based on Tilkey's voluntary entrance into a diversion program, he had

engaged in acts of physical harm or violence to another person. It identified the policy

violation as "[t]hreats or acts of physical harm or violence to the property or assets of the

Company, or to any person, regardless of whether he/she is employed by Allstate." The

summary of investigation attached to the termination request stated, "the retention of the

domestic violence charges suggests that Tilkey engaged in behavior that was construed as

acts of physical harm or violence towards another person."

       Following written approval from Tilkey's supervisors, the company terminated

Tilkey's employment on May 27, 2015. When the company terminated his employment,

it informed Tilkey, "Your employment is being terminated as a result of engaging in

behaviors that are in violation of Company Policy. Specifically, engaging in threatening

behavior and/or acts of physical harm or violence to any person, regardless of whether

he/she is employed by Allstate."

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       The company then filed a Form U5 with FINRA2 reporting its reason for

terminating him as follows: "Termination of employment by parent property and

casualty insurance company after allegations of engaging in behaviors that are in

violation of company policy, specifically, engaging in threatening behavior and/or acts of

physical harm or violence to any person, regardless of whether he/she is employed by

Allstate. Not securities related."

       On July 1, 2015, the State of Arizona filed a motion to dismiss the case against

Tilkey with prejudice, and the court approved it the same day.

       Tilkey sued Allstate asserting three causes of action: (1) violation of section

432.7; (2) wrongful termination based on noncompliance with section 432.7; and

(3) compelled self-published defamation to prospective employers.

       As part of its defense at trial, Allstate presented evidence that Tilkey had used

company equipment, including the company-issued laptop computer and the company's

Intranet and Internet system, to forward e-mails containing graphic nudity and racist

jokes, among other items. It argued that had it known of these e-mails at the time, it

would have discharged Tilkey. Tilkey presented evidence that the circulation of the e-

mails was part of the culture of the workplace.

       Following trial, the jury returned a verdict for Tilkey and awarded $2,663,137 in

compensatory damages, with $960,222 for wrongful termination and $1,702,915 for

2      The Form U5 is a document to let FINRA know if there is a change in the status
regarding the licensing of a licensed broker dealer.

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defamation, and $15,978,822 in punitive damages. The jury concluded that Tilkey

engaged in misconduct by sending the inappropriate e-mails. However, it also advised

the court that the misconduct was not sufficiently severe that Allstate would have

discharged him as a matter of settled company policy because of that misconduct alone

had Allstate known of it. The court agreed.

       Allstate moved for a judgment notwithstanding the verdict (JNOV) and for a new

trial, motions which the trial court denied. Allstate timely appealed.

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                                       DISCUSSION

                                              I.

                              WRONGFUL TERMINATION

       Allstate argues it did not violate section 432.7 when it used as a factor in its

termination decision Tilkey's arrest and subsequent conditional plea and entry into a

diversion program. Tilkey counters that the company's reliance on his arrest records

violated section 432.7; thus, he was wrongfully terminated. The parties' disagreement

hinges on the interpretation of section 432.7, subdivision (a)(1), which prohibits

employers from utilizing as a factor in employment decisions any record of arrest or

detention that did not result in conviction or any record regarding referral to or

participation in any pretrial or posttrial diversion program.3

                                             A.

                                    Standard of Review

       Statutory interpretation is a legal issue, which we review de novo.

(Weatherford v. City of San Rafael (2017) 2 Cal. 5th 1241, 1247.) In interpreting a

statute, we attempt "to ascertain and effectuate the law's intended purpose." (Id. at

p. 1246.) Our " 'fundamental task' " is " 'to determine the Legislature's intent so as to

effectuate the law's purpose.' " (Carson Citizens for Reform v. Kawagoe (2009) 178

3     The statute also prohibits an employer from seeking or using as a factor in an
employment decision any record that concerns a conviction that has been judicially
dismissed. (§ 432.7, subd. (a)(1).) The parties did not raise this as a basis for the
wrongful termination claim.

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Cal. App. 4th 357, 366; Fluor Corp. v. Superior Court (2015) 61 Cal. 4th 1175, 1198

(Fluor).) " ' "We begin with the plain language of the statute, affording the words of

the provision their ordinary and usual meaning and viewing them in their statutory

context, because the language employed in the Legislature's enactment generally is

the most reliable indicator of legislative intent." [Citations.] The plain meaning

controls if there is no ambiguity in the statutory language. [Citation.] If, however,

"the statutory language may reasonably be given more than one interpretation,

' " 'courts may consider various extrinsic aids, including the purpose of the statute, the

evils to be remedied, the legislative history, public policy, and the statutory scheme

encompassing the statute.' " ' " [Citation.]' [Citation.]" (Fluor, at p. 1198.)

                                            B.

                          Tilkey's Conditional Plea Agreement

       Section 432.7 prohibits an employer from considering as a factor in

employment decisions including termination of "any record of arrest . . . that did not

result in a conviction." (§ 432.7, subd. (a)(1).) Allstate argues a conditional plea

agreement qualifies as a conviction. Tilkey contends he never entered a guilty plea; thus,

there was no conviction. As we will explain, we conclude the term "conviction" as

defined in section 432.7 does not require entry of judgment.

       " '[T]he term "conviction" has no fixed definition and has been interpreted by

the courts of this state to have various meanings, depending upon the context in which

the word is used[]' [Citation.]" (People v. Kirk (2006) 141 Cal. App. 4th 715, 720).

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However, here, the statute defines a "conviction" to include "a plea, verdict, or finding

of guilt regardless of whether sentence is imposed by the court." (§ 432.7, subd.

(a)(3)(A).) The plain language here makes clear that a judgment is not required because

the conviction can exist without respect to sentencing. (See ibid.)

       The statute's legislative history supports this interpretation. In 2013, the

Legislature amended section 432.7 to include, among those items prohibited from a

prospective employer's consideration, prior convictions that were dismissed by a court

pursuant to Penal Code section 1203.4 unless the conviction was related to job

performance. (Sen. Com. on Pub. Safety, Analysis of Sen. Bill No. 530 (2013-2014

Reg. Sess.) Apr. 23, 2013, p. 7, ¶ 3.) The purpose of the amendment was "to close

some loopholes and provide additional tools and changes to existing law to make

effective existing state policy to remove employment barriers to those who have

committed crimes that have been expunged by the courts." (Assem. Com. on

Judiciary, Analysis of Sen. Bill No. 530 (2013-2014 Reg. Sess.) June 25, 2013,

pp. 2-3.) This addition demonstrates that convictions and dismissed convictions

represent two different categories of convictions. It also verifies that a conviction can

exist even before judgment is entered, and it is different from one that is subsequently

dismissed or expunged.

       Allstate asks us to follow the example provided by People v. Laino (2004) 32
Cal. 4th 878. While the cases are factually similar, there are distinctions between the

provision of the "Three Strikes" law and section 432.7 that make the comparison

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imprecise. In Laino, the defendant pled guilty in Arizona to assault with a firearm

against his wife and received probation that included a diversion program, which he

successfully completed. (Id. at p. 882.) The defendant was never sentenced for the

crime because he complied with the terms of the agreement; instead, the court

dismissed the charges. (Ibid.) The defendant was later charged with two counts of

theft in California, and he argued the conditional guilty plea he entered in Arizona

was not a conviction for purposes of the Three Strikes law. (Id. at p. 896.)

      The Supreme Court disagreed because California's Three Strikes law imposes

punishment "[n]otwithstanding any other law" if the defendant was previously

convicted of a felony. (Pen. Code, §§ 667, subd. (c), 1170.12, subd. (a).) The Three

Strikes law defines "conviction" to include convictions in other jurisdictions that

would be punishable by imprisonment if committed in California, based on the date of

the conviction and unaffected by the sentencing. (Pen. Code, §§ 667, subd. (d)(1)

& (2), 1170.12, subd. (b)(1) & (2).) Thus, under the Three Strikes law, "it is settled

that for purposes of a prior conviction statute, a conviction occurs at the time of entry

of the guilty plea." (People v. Castello (1998) 65 Cal. App. 4th 1242, 1253.)

      Section 432.7 does not contain similar provisions. The Labor Code does not

provide details for determining the impact of a conviction in another jurisdiction or

state that a conviction occurs on the date of the conviction. However, it does define

conviction to include a plea, regardless of whether the court ultimately imposes a

sentence. (See § 432.7, subd. (a)(3)(A).) Thus, for purposes of the Labor Code, a

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conviction does not require an entry of judgment of guilt; it merely requires the entry

of a plea.

       Having determined what "conviction" means in the context of section 432.7,

we turn now to the plea-related documents in the matter.

       On January 15, 2015, Tilkey, his attorney, and the prosecutor signed a

document entitled "Plea Agreement Diversion." The agreement stated it would "serve

the ends of justice to suspend entry of judgment so that the defendant may participate

in a diversion program." From this language, as well as a later-filed motion to dismiss

the remaining charge, we conclude that there was no judgment of guilt in the Arizona

court. However, as we have explained, a conviction under section 432.7 does not

require an entry of judgment; it simply requires entry of a guilty plea.

       Section 9 of the Plea Agreement Diversion document suggests that the guilty

plea agreement was not entered because it says that it "will be entered on the record

by the Court" if the defendant "fails to timely show proof of compliance" with the

conditions stated in the agreement. The defendant's signature on the document

certifies that he "agree[s] to enter my plea of guilty as indicated above on the terms

and conditions set forth in this document." These conditions included a domestic

nonviolence program under the supervision of an Arizona company, as well as

payment of court costs, and assessments, and compliance with other limitations, like

nonpossession of firearms and staying away from Mann. Thus, this document shows

Tilkey agreed to enter a type of deferred prosecution, with the entry of guilty plea

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delayed until the prosecutor determined that Tilkey had completed the diversion

program and remained in compliance with the other terms of the agreement.

       However, also on January 15, 2015, the Arizona court held a guilty plea

proceeding. Appearing in that proceeding, Tilkey "expresse[d] a desire to plead guilty

to" a class 1 misdemeanor, disorderly conduct fighting (DV), A.R.S. § 13-2904A1.

Tilkey, his attorney, and the court signed this document, in which Tilkey certified that

he understood "the constitutional rights which [he] [gave] up by entering this plea and

that [he] still desire[d] to plead guilty." (Italics added.) The court's signature on the

document certifies that it "conclude[s] that the [d]efendant knowingly, voluntarily and

intelligently enters a plea to the above charge(s), and [it] accept[s] their plea." (Italics

added.) The first document indicated a willingness to enter a diversion program on the

promise of a deferred prosecution; the second document shows entry of a guilty plea.

       This understanding of what occurred is supported by the testimony of Tilkey's

Arizona attorney, Carlos Estrada, who could not recall discussing with Tilkey whether

the agreement would lead to a conviction, just that it would lead to a dismissal of the

charges. Estrada testified that the purpose of the plea agreement diversion document

and the guilty plea proceeding document were for the court to suspend the entry of

judgment of guilt so that successful completion of the diversion program would result

in dismissal of the remaining charge. Tilkey's testimony likewise focused on the

ultimate outcome of the case; when asked if he believed the plea of guilt he entered

had been entered on the record, Tilkey replied that he believed completion of the

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diversion program would mean there would not be "any record of anything

anywhere."

      Because Tilkey appeared before the Arizona court and entered a guilty plea,

which the court accepted, Tilkey's guilty plea was a conviction under section 432.7.

This information was used by Allstate to terminate Tilkey's employment in May 2015,

before the charges against Tilkey were dismissed on July 1, 2015. Thus, Allstate did

not violate section 432.7 by using Tilkey's Arizona arrest as a factor in its decision to

terminate his employment.

                                            C.

 Tilkey's Referral to and Participation in Nondomestic Violence Diversion Program

      Section 432.7 also prohibits an employer from considering as a factor in an

employment decision records of referral to or participation in a diversion program.

(§ 432.7, subd. (a)(1).) It defines a pretrial or posttrial diversion program as "any

program under Chapter 2.5 (commencing with Section 1000) or Chapter 2.7

(commencing with Section 1001) of Title 6 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, Section 13201

or 13352.5 of the Vehicle Code, Sections 626, 626.5, 654, or 725 of, or Article 20.5

(commencing with Section 790) of Chapter 2 of Part 1 of Division 2 of, the Welfare

and Institutions Code, or any other program expressly authorized and described by

statute as a diversion program." (§ 432.7, subd. (j), italics added.)

      Allstate argues that because California views domestic nonviolence diversion

programs as contrary to public policy, such a program is unauthorized, and thus the

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company's consideration of Tilkey's participation in one did not violate section 432.7.

Tilkey contends that a domestic nonviolence diversion program is one that is

expressly authorized and described by statute in Arizona, and thus Allstate was

prohibited from considering Tilkey's participation.

       Because there is ambiguity here, we consider the Legislature's intent. (Fluor,

supra, 61 Cal.4th at p. 1198.) In 1976, the California Attorney General issued an

opinion questioning the authority of local prosecutors and courts to offer diversion

programs for behavior identified by the Legislature as unlawful; it suggested counties

could not legally institute diversion programs. (Health and Welfare Agency, Dept. of

Health, Enrolled Bill Report on Assem. Bill No. 533 (1977-1978 Reg. Sess.) Aug. 31,

1977, p. 1; Assemblyman Majority Leader Howard L. Berman, letter to Governor

Edmund G. Brown, Jr. re Assem. Bill No. 533 (1977-1978 Reg. Sess.) Aug. 31, 1977,

p. 1 [Berman Letter].) At the time, the state had collected little data regarding the

effectiveness of diversion programs. (Berman Letter, at pp. 2-3.) Assembly Bill

No. 533 authorized local communities to establish diversion programs and required

counties employing the programs to supply annual reports to the Legislature. (Health

and Welfare Agency, Dept. of Health, Enrolled Bill Report on Assem. Bill No. 533,

supra, p. 2.)

       In 1979, the Legislature expressly authorized diversion for misdemeanor

domestic violence charges using a system similar to the domestic nonviolence

diversion program options available to Tilkey in Arizona. (See Stats. 1979, ch. 913,

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§ 1; Pen. Code, § 1000.6 et seq. [repealed].) The California statutes allowed courts to

permit pretrial diversion without an admission of guilt and to dismiss criminal charges

following successful completion of the program. (Id. at §§ 1000.6, subds. (a), (c);

1000.9 [repealed].)

      During the 1995-1996 legislative session, the Legislature revisited domestic

violence diversion programs. Domestic violence diversion programs were not

meeting their intended goal, with only a 50 percent success rate reported in Los

Angeles, and difficulty prosecuting cases when perpetrators failed to complete their

diversion programs. (Sen. Rules Com., Office of Sen. Floor Analyses, 3d Reading

analysis of Assem. Bill No. 168 (1995-1996 Reg. Sess.) as amended July 14, 1995,

pp. 3-4; Sen. Rules Com., Office of Sen. Floor Analyses, 3d Reading analysis of

Assem. Bill No. 169 (1995-1996 Reg. Sess.) as amended July 15, 1995, pp. 3-4.) The

Assembly and Senate introduced competing bills.

      Assembly Bill No. 168 would have allowed domestic violence perpetrators to

plead guilty and defer entry of judgment, contingent upon successful completion of a

diversion program. (Sen. Rules Com., Office of Sen. Floor Analyses, 3d Reading

analysis of Sen. Bill No. 168 (1995-1996 Reg. Sess.) as amended July 14, 1995, p. 2.)

Senate Bill No. 169 would eliminate diversion as an option in all domestic violence

cases. (Sen. Rules Com., Office of Sen. Floor Analyses, 3d Reading analysis of

Assem. Bill No. 169 (1995-1996 Reg. Sess.) as amended July 15, 1995, p. 3, ¶ 1.)

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       After the Legislature passed both bills, the governor vetoed Assembly Bill

No. 168, commenting, "we can no longer continue to treat domestic violence cases as

if they are not more significant than traffic violations." (Governor's veto message to

Assem. on Assem. Bill No. 168 (Oct. 4, 1995) (1995-1996 Reg. Sess.) p. 1.) The

governor compared the two bills, explaining that Assembly Bill No. 168 would deem

the arrest which formed the basis for the diversion to have never occurred, and

explaining the "problem is a lack of accountability" because perpetrators could "opt to

attend a counseling program without ever acknowledging that they have committed a

crime and are prepared to accept the consequences." (Ibid.) He wrote that offering a

deferred entry of judgment would merely be a cosmetic change and stated, "We must

change the culture which makes domestic violence acceptable and dispel the myth that

the battering of a domestic partner is a family matter, and something less than a

crime." (Id. at pp. 1-2.)

       The state abolished domestic violence diversion programs about a decade

before Tilkey engaged in the domestic nonviolence program in Arizona. Were he to

have been charged with the same crime in California, a diversion program would not

have been an option. It would be contrary to California's public policy against

misdemeanor domestic violence diversion programs to prohibit consideration of

Tilkey's participation in one. The location of the crime in Arizona does not have any

effect on California's public policy opposing diversion for domestic violence offenses.

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       Accordingly, we conclude section 432.7's reference to diversion programs

excludes out-of-state domestic violence programs, and Allstate's consideration of

Tilkey's participation in one did not violate the law.

       We are unpersuaded by Tilkey's argument that the lack of reference to

California authorities in section 432.7 means the Legislature did not intend to limit

consideration of diversion programs only to those offered in California. The statutes

cited by Tilkey as evidence the Legislature is capable of limiting the scope of its laws

are different in kind than one authorizing diversion in lieu of criminal conviction

because they relate to physical location for purposes of jurisdiction (see, e.g.,

sections 220.2 and 226 referencing the location of employment records), or the

geographical location of people protected by employment laws (see, e.g., §§ 250

[seasonal labor to include employees hired in California who perform work out of

state]; 1060, subd. (c) [applying only to employees whose "primary place of

employment" is within California]; 1071 [addressing public transit employment

within California].)

       We also disagree with Tilkey's claim that concluding a domestic violence

diversion program offered in Arizona is not protected under section 432.7 means

section 432.7 applies only to California arrests, detentions, and diversion programs.

Our conclusion is more narrow: domestic violence diversion programs offered

outside California are not protected under section 432.7 because California policy

excludes such a benefit.

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       Finally, citing People v. Bedrossian (2018) 20 Cal. App. 5th 1070, Tilkey

maintains that California provides statutory protections to domestic violence arrests

and convictions and, therefore, we should honor Tilkey's participation in a domestic

nonviolence diversion program. In Bedrossian, the First Appellate District Court of

Appeal recognized that records of an arrest for domestic violence can be expunged

under Penal Code section 851.8 when no accusatory pleading is filed. This case is not

helpful because, unlike Tilkey, the defendant in Bedrossian did not plead guilty or

admit any factual basis for the charges against him. (See id. at p. 1073.) There, the

court reasoned that the risk Bedrossian would be harmed by a delay in destruction of

arrest records was mitigated by statutory protections like section 432.7 (Bedrossian, at

p. 1075), but Bedrossian was not at risk because his arrest did not result in a

conviction or a referral to a diversion program.4 (Bedrossian, at p. 1073.)

4       Allstate does not argue, and we do not hold, that it would be proper for an
employer to consider, after charges are dismissed, an arrest that results in conviction and
punishment, followed by dismissal under Penal Code section 1203.4, which is the factual
situation presented in the other cases cited by Tilkey. (See People v. Seymour (2015) 239
Cal. App. 4th 1418, 1421-1422 [defendant permitted to have felony domestic violence
charge dismissed due to discharge from probation prior to termination of probation
period]; see also Shirey v. Los Angeles County Civil Service Comm. (2013) 216
Cal. App. 4th 1, 4-5 [battery conviction set aside following probation and not guilty plea
entered].) Penal Code section 1203.4 permits a court, in the interests of justice, after a
defendant has fulfilled conditions of probation, or after a defendant has been discharged
prior to the termination of probation, to withdraw a guilty plea or to set aside a guilty
verdict, and to dismiss the accusations or information. The defendant is
"thereafter. . . released from all penalties and disabilities resulting from the offense of
which he or she has been convicted . . . ." (Pen. Code, § 1203.4, subd. (a)(1).) In
contrast, when Tilkey was discharged from employment, the domestic violence charge

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       Having concluded that Allstate did not violate section 432.7 by utilizing

Tilkey's arrest or participation in a domestic nonviolence diversion program as a

factor in its employment termination decision, we will reverse the wrongful

termination verdict.

                                            II.

                                    DEFAMATION

       Allstate next challenges the defamation verdict, contending that self-compelled

defamation should not provide a basis for a defamation per se cause of action. It

further contends there was no evidence here that Tilkey's self-publication was

compelled by its publication of the reason for his employment termination on the

Form U5 because that publication contained a privileged statement. Finally, Allstate

maintains that its statement was substantially true, justifying reversal of the verdict.

       We review questions of law, and therefore the viability of self-compelled

defamation per se theory, de novo. (Topanga and Victory Partners v. Toghia (2002)

103 Cal. App. 4th 775, 779-780.) We look for substantial evidence regarding whether

Tilkey was compelled to self-publish the defamatory statement, and we look for

substantial evidence regarding whether the statement was substantially true. (See

Sweatman v. Department of Veteran Affairs (2001) 25 Cal. 4th 62, 68 (Sweatman)

[denial of JNOV reviewed under substantial evidence standard].) In so doing, we do

against him had not been dismissed. Moreover, nothing prohibited Allstate's
consideration of referral to a diversion program.

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not " 'weigh the evidence, consider the credibility of witnesses, or resolve conflicts in

the evidence or in the reasonable inferences that may be drawn from it.' " (Do v.

Regents of the University of California (2013) 216 Cal. App. 4th 1474, 1492 (Do).)

We consider disputed facts in a light most favorable to the jury's verdict. (Ibid.)

       For a valid defamation claim, the general rule is that "the publication must be

done by the defendant." (Live Oak Publishing Co. v. Cohagan (1991) 234 Cal. App. 3d
1277, 1284 (Live Oak Publishing).) There is an exception "when it [is] foreseeable

that the defendant's act would result in [a plaintiff's] publication to a third person."

(Ibid.) For the exception to apply, the defamed party must operate under a strong

compulsion to republish the defamatory statement, and the circumstances creating the

compulsion must be known to the originator of the statement at the time he or she

makes it to the defamed individual. (Beroiz v. Wahl (2000) 84 Cal. App. 4th 485, 497

(Beroiz); Davis v. Consolidated Freightways (1994) 29 Cal. App. 4th 354, 373 (Davis);

Live Oak Publishing, at p. 1285; McKinney v. County of Santa Clara (1980) 110
Cal. App. 3d 787, 796 (McKinney).)

                                            A.

                     Compelled Self-Published Defamation Per Se

       Allstate asks us to reject combining the doctrines of defamation per se and self-

defamation, arguing the two theories are at odds because compelled self-publication

must occur for the purpose of countering an injury (loss of employment opportunity),

while defamation per se does not require proof of actual damages. We do not find

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these theories in conflict. In an action for defamation per se, the meaning is so clear

from the face of the statement that the damages can be presumed. (Contento v.

Mitchell (1972) 28 Cal. App. 3d 356, 358 (Contento).) However, that presumption

does not mean an employee does not anticipate injury; nor does it mean there is no

injury.

          Moreover, while compelled self-published defamation per se technically

eliminates the need for publication by the defendant to a third party, a plaintiff cannot

manufacture the defamation claim by simply publishing statements to a third party

because the plaintiff must disclose contents of the employer's statement to a third

party after reading or being informed of the contents. (Live Oak Publishing, supra,

234 Cal.App.3d at p. 1284.) The originator of the statement is liable for the

foreseeable repetition because of the causal link between the originator and the

presumed damage to the plaintiff's reputation (see id. at p. 1285), but the publication

must be foreseeable. (Davis, supra, 29 Cal.App.4th at p. 373.) The presumed injury

is no less damaging because the plaintiff was compelled to make the statement instead

of the employer making it directly to the third party.5

5      While defamation per se does not require a finding of actual damages (Contento,
supra, 28 Cal.App.3d at pp. 357-358), in this case, the jury found that Tilkey suffered
actual damages of $1,586,185 for harm to his profession or occupation, $111,000 for
harm to his reputation, and $5,730 for shame, mortification, or hurt feelings.

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       Allstate offers several other arguments for why we should not accept a theory

of compelled self-published defamation. Allstate argues a theory of self-publication

undermines at-will employment, which allows companies to discharge employees

capriciously, as long as the decision is not unlawful. Allstate also argues that

permitting this cause of action may have a chilling effect on communication between

an employer and employee, reducing the free flow of information due to self-

censorship. Next, Allstate argues this theory of defamation incentivizes an employee

to spread defamatory statements instead of mitigating damages. Finally, Allstate

notes that employment is primarily a contractual relationship. These arguments do

not persuade us to alter our conclusion here.

       These same arguments could be offered to support the elimination of a

defamation cause of action against employers altogether—the crux of Allstate's

argument is that because the employee controls whether a statement is repeated to a

third party, the risks of an end-run around the at-will employment doctrine is greater.

But the additional requirements of proving a strong compulsion, the necessity to

disclose the statement, and the foreseeability of the repetition all contribute to

discouraging employees from simply repeating the defamatory information instead of

mitigating their damages. (See Live Oak Publishing, supra, 234 Cal.App.3d at

pp. 1284, 1285.)

       Allstate argues only one published case has permitted a compelled self-

publication claim to survive summary judgment, and that case, McKinney, relied on

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out-of-state cases with unique facts, implying it should not supply a basis for our

conclusion. However, the facts of the cases discussed in McKinney are not so

different from the one before us now.

      In Colonial Stores, Inc. v. Barrett (Ga.Ct.App. 1946) 38 S.E.2d 306, 307-308,

the plaintiff received a restricted statement of availability that prevented him from

being hired by other employers, and he claimed that statement contained a false

reason for his termination. There, the employee was required to share the statement

with prospective employers. (Ibid.) In Grist v. Upjohn Company (Mich.Ct.App.

1969) 168 N.W.2d 389, 405-406, the employer disclosed to a prospective employer

the reason for termination, compelling the employee to repeat the reason so he could

refute it. Allstate argues that because no one at Allstate made a nonprivileged

disclosure of its reason for terminating Tilkey's employment to prospective

employers, his situation is not analogous. We disagree. Allstate provided a written

explanation for Tilkey's termination of employment on the Form U5 to FINRA, which

was available to every prospective employer of similarly-licensed employees. As we

explain post, that disclosure was not absolutely privileged. Thus, Tilkey was

compelled to explain the reason for his discharge, and this repetition was reasonably

foreseeable.

      We are also not persuaded by Allstate's remaining arguments. Nothing about

compelled self-published defamation limits an employer's right or ability to terminate

employment unfairly or capriciously. (See Guz v. Bechtel National Inc. (2000) 24

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Cal. 4th 317, 350-351.) And because a defamation cause of action does not arise from

an employer's statement to the employee of the reasons for termination of

employment unless they include false accusations of criminal conduct, lack of

integrity, dishonesty, incompetence, or reprehensible personal characteristics or

behavior (see, e.g., Jensen v. Hewlett-Packard Co. (1993) 14 Cal. App. 4th 958, 964-

965 [employee performance evaluation]; see, e.g., King v. United Parcel Service, Inc.

(2007) 152 Cal. App. 4th 426, 440 [employer statements about reasons for terminating

another employee are generally privileged because of common interest in protecting

workplace from abuse]), there is no additional chilling effect on the free flow of

information between the employer and the employee.

      Additionally, the qualified privilege that attaches to communications about an

employee's job performance when made without malice or abuse to a third party

likewise protects an employer against compelled self-published defamation. (See Cal.

Civ. Code, § 47, subd. (c); Noel v. River Hills Wilsons, Inc. (2003) 113 Cal. App. 4th
1363 [malice required for application of conditional privilege]; Neal v. Gatlin (1973)

35 Cal. App. 3d 871, 877 ["It is well established that a former employer may properly

respond to an inquiry from a prospective employer concerning an individual's fitness

for employment, and if it is not done maliciously, such response is privileged"].) This

conditional privilege helps protect the free flow of reference information. (Noel, at

pp. 1373-1374.)

                                           B.

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                                   Form U5 Privilege

      Civil Code section 47, subdivision (b) makes a communication absolutely

privileged if made in an official proceeding authorized by law, or in the initiation or

course of any other authorized proceeding, with some exceptions not applicable here.

(Cruey v. Gannett Co. (1998) 64 Cal. App. 4th 356, 368.)

      Firms are required to file a Form U5 with FINRA whenever a registered

representative leaves the firm. If the registered representative's employment has been

terminated, the form asks the firm to provide a reason for termination. When the

Form U5 identifies allegations of improper conduct by a broker-dealer, an issue that

FINRA may need to investigate, it can on those occasions be considered "a

communication made 'in anticipation of an action or other official proceeding.'

(Briggs [v. Eden Council for Hope & Opportunity (1999)] 19 Cal.4th [1106,] 1115.)"

(Fontani v. Wells Fargo Investments, LLC (2005) 129 Cal. App. 4th 719, 732,

disapproved of on other grounds in Kibler v. Northern Inyo County Local Hospital

District (2006) 39 Cal. 4th 192.) In those instances, the information reported on the

Form U5 would be protected by the absolute privilege outlined in Civil Code section

47, subdivision (b). (See Fontani, at p. 732.)

      Section 7 of the Form U5 includes a list of disclosure questions for full

terminations that asks if the terminated employee was the subject of a governmental

investigation; was under internal review for fraud, wrongful taking of property, or

violated investment related laws, regulations, or industry standards relating to

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compliance; was convicted of or pled guilty to a felony; or was convicted of or pled

guilty to a misdemeanor that related to investments, fraud, false statements, bribery,

perjury, forgery, counterfeiting, extortion, or wrongful taking of property. These

questions make clear that FINRA seeks termination information that allows it to

assess whether the employee's conduct lacked compliance with regulatory

requirements in the securities arena. FINRA does not ask for information about

nonsecurities-related activities because that information falls outside its scope of

regulation.

       Thus, the absolute privilege extends to communications required by FINRA,

i.e., fraud- and securities-related information. However, the communication of

Tilkey's termination here did not regard improper securities-related conduct, and

Allstate did not limit its responses to fraud- and securities-related information.

Instead, Allstate explained Tilkey's departure was the result of a "termination of

employment by parent property and casualty insurance company after allegations of

engaging in behavior that are in violation of company policy, specifically, engaging in

threatening behavior and/or acts of physical harm or violence to any person,

regardless of whether he/she is employed by Allstate. Not securities related." This

statement did not contain allegations of improper securities conduct, theft, or

allegations or charges of fraud or dishonesty. It was not offered in anticipation of or

to initiate an investigation; nor was it offered in the course of any other official

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proceeding. (See Civ. Code, § 47, subd. (b).) Thus, the absolute privilege does not

apply.6

                                             C.

  Substantial Evidence Supports Jury Findings That Tilkey Was Compelled to Self-
                 Publish Statement That Was Not Substantially True

          Finally, Allstate contends Tilkey was not under a strong compulsion to self-

publish the defamatory statement and there was not substantial evidence to support the

jury's finding the statement was not substantially true. We disagree.

          We look for substantial evidence regarding whether Tilkey was compelled to

self-publish and whether its statement that he was engaged in threatening behavior

and/or acts of physical harm or violence to any person was substantially true.

(Sweatman, supra, 25 Cal.4th at p. 68.) In so doing, we do not " 'weigh the evidence,

consider the credibility of witnesses, or resolve conflicts in the evidence or in the

reasonable inferences that may be drawn from it.' " (Do, supra, 216 Cal.App.4th at

p. 1492.) We consider disputed facts in a light most favorable to the judgment.

(Ibid.)

                                      1. Compulsion

6      Had Allstate instead eliminated the specifics in its statement, privilege may have
attached because Allstate was required to report the termination. For example, it could
have supplied the following statement: "Termination of employment by parent property
and casualty insurance company after allegations of engaging behavior that are in
violation of company policy. Not securities related."

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      The jury concluded that Tilkey was under strong pressure to communicate

Allstate's defamatory statement to another person. There is ample evidence to support

this conclusion.

      The vocational evaluator testified Tilkey would have a difficult time ever

getting another job because he had been terminated, and the reason for termination

reported on the Form U5 was negative. He testified that because job applications ask

for information about whether the applicant had been terminated from employment,

Tilkey would have to explain the situation, and that would be "an absolute killer." He

also noted that because Tilkey sold life insurance, he was required to hold securities

licenses, and agencies and employers hiring those with securities licenses would have

access to U5 forms. Tilkey's supervisor at Allstate, William Vasquez, testified that

Allstate routinely reviewed the securities public information from the Form U5 of any

person they were hiring, and he could not recall ever hiring anyone at Allstate whose

Form U5 stated he was terminated for cause. Tilkey likewise testified that when he

recruited agents, he would have someone check the Form U5, and he never hired

anyone whose Form U5 showed the termination was for cause. He also never

received an interview from any company that had access to a Form U5, even though

he had 30 years of experience and performed well, receiving the third largest bonus in

the state just a few weeks before his termination. Tilkey's knowledge of how

companies used the Form U5, coupled with Allstate's related hiring practice,

compelled him to explain and respond to the allegation. (See Live Oak Publishing,
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supra, 234 Cal.App.3d at p. 1285 [compulsion from need to explain to employers who

will learn of allegation if they investigate past employment].)

      Tilkey looked for work in other fields as well, but even then he was asked

about whether he had been terminated from a job. He answered the question honestly,

stating that Allstate alleged he had engaged in threatening behavior and/or acts of

physical harm or violence to another person, then countered it by explaining he had

never threatened anyone. (See Beroiz, supra, 84 Cal.App.4th at p. 497 [republication

necessary to disprove accusation].)

      None of these facts is disputed. Taken together, in a light most favorable to the

verdict, the implication is evident. Even if the company never offered any specific

information about the reason for Tilkey's discharge from employment to prospective

employers, its statement at the time of discharge and its reporting of the information

on the publicly-available Form U5 necessitated Tilkey's self-publication in other

settings. Without explaining Allstate's claims, Tilkey would not have been able to

explain his employment history and sudden departure after 30 years.

                                  2. Substantial Truth

      The truth of a statement is an absolute defense against civil liability. (Ringler

Associates Inc. v. Maryland Casualty Co. (2000) 80 Cal. App. 4th 1165, 1180.) The

defendant does not need to prove the literal truth of every word in the challenged

statement; the defense is complete "so long as the imputation is substantially true so

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as to justify the 'gist or sting' of the remark." (Campanelli v. Regents of University of

California (1996) 44 Cal. App. 4th 572, 582 (Campanelli).)

      The jury was asked whether Allstate stated, "[Tilkey] engaged in threatening

behavior and/or acts of physical harm or violence to another person," and it concluded

Allstate did. The jury also found the statement was not substantially true. These

conclusions are supported by substantial evidence.

      The facts of the evening of Tilkey's arrest, which formed the basis of Allstate's

conclusion that he engaged in threatening behavior and/or acts of physical harm or

violence, are largely undisputed. Tilkey and Mann were at Mann's one-bedroom

apartment after an evening out when they began to argue. Tilkey stepped onto the

enclosed patio, and Mann closed and locked the door behind him. Tilkey banged on

the door loudly, demanding to be let into the home to gather his belongings from the

room where Mann's grandson was asleep. When police arrived, Mann told them she

was afraid Tilkey would wake her grandson, and the interior trim on the framing of

the patio door was broken. Tilkey was arrested for misdemeanor criminal damage

deface and disorderly conduct - disruptive behavior, and a domestic violence label

was attached to the disorderly conduct charges. Tilkey pled guilty to disorderly

conduct fighting (DV).

      These facts do not include evidence that Mann was ever directly threatened; nor

do these events indicate that Tilkey was threatening to physically harm Mann or her

grandson. Tilkey's attorney explained that the charges did not reflect threats of

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violence or harm. Estrada testified that A.R.S. section 13-2904A.1, the charge to

which Tilkey pled guilty, defines the crime as engaging in fighting, violent, or

seriously disruptive behavior. The basis of Tilkey's guilty plea was his admission that

he engaged in seriously disruptive behavior on the date, time, and location listed in the

charges against him. Estrada explained that while the court-generated guilty plea

form references fighting, the departmental report and his understanding were that the

conduct was disruptive behavior and not fighting, which is why the departmental

report listed "disruptive behavior" on it. Estrada also testified that there is a separate

charge for threatening behavior, A.R.S. section 13-1202, for which Tilkey was not

charged. Tilkey similarly testified that he agreed to enter a diversion program because

he felt like he was guilty of making noise that night.

       Additionally, Alferos's summary of her investigation into the arrests initially

concluded Tilkey was not in violation of company policy. It was only after her

supervisor Burno directed her to revise the summary of investigation that Alferos

concluded Tilkey's behavior "may [have been] at a level which causes management to

lose confidence in his ability to work at Allstate." When Burno modified the

conclusion again later, he relied on the retained charge against Tilkey to conclude

"Tilkey engaged in behavior that was construed as acts of physical harm and violence

towards another person." And Alferos's termination request form stated that based on

Tilkey's voluntary entrance into the diversion program, he had engaged in acts of

physical harm or violence to another person. But Estrada's testimony made clear that

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a domestic violence label does not mean the person engaged in physical violence or

even threatened violence.

       Thus, there is substantial evidence that the events of August 16, 2014, do not

support Allstate's statement, especially when construed in a light most favorable to the

jury verdict. Tilkey and his girlfriend had a heated exchange during which there was

shouting, a door slam, and banging on the door. The charge to which Tilkey initially

pled guilty was a disorderly conduct charge, not a threat charge. And while there was

a factual basis for that guilty plea, disorderly conduct does not require any physical

violence or threat of physical violence, so the existence of that charge is not sufficient

on its own to conclude Tilkey engaged in physical harm or threatened physical harm.

The factual basis for the plea was disruptive behavior, not physical harm, or even

threat of physical harm. Finally, Tilkey explained that he entered the diversion

program because he felt like he was guilty of making noise that night.

       The "gist or sting" of Allstate's remarks was that Tilkey behaved in a physically

violent or threatening manner, and that was why his employment was terminated.

(See Campanelli, supra, 44 Cal.App.4th at p. 582.) But the facts do not point to

Tilkey threatening Mann, physically harming her, or being violent. Thus, there is

substantial evidence to support the jury's verdict that Allstate's statement to the

contrary was not substantially true, and we will affirm.

                                           III.

                                PUNITIVE DAMAGES

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       Allstate presents four arguments for why the judgment on punitive damages

should be reversed: (1) no managing agent acted to terminate Tilkey with knowledge

of violating section 432.7 or with knowledge of or a reckless disregard for the truth;

(2) Allstate did not consciously disregard the requirements of section 432.7;

(3) punitive damages are not available in compelled self-publication defamation

matters; and (4) the award is excessive in violation of due process rights. Having

already concluded Allstate did not violate section 432.7, we do not address Allstate's

contentions relating to that section of the Labor Code. We address the remaining three

contentions in turn below.

                                            A.

                                   Standard of Review

       We review whether a punitive damages award is constitutionally excessive de

novo, independently assessing the "reprehensibility of the defendant's conduct, the

relationship between the award and the harm done to the plaintiff, and the relationship

between the award and civil penalties authorized for comparable conduct." (Simon v.

San Paolo U.S. Holding Co., Inc. (2005) 35 Cal. 4th 1159, 1172 (Simon).)

       We likewise review denial of a motion for JNOV de novo. (Linear Technology

Corp. v. Tokyo Electron Ltd. (2011) 200 Cal. App. 4th 1527, 1532) " '[W]e determine

whether substantial evidence supported the verdict, viewing the evidence in the light

most favorable to the party who obtained the verdict. [Citation.] We resolve all

conflicts in the evidence and draw all reasonable inferences in favor of the verdict,

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and do not weigh the evidence or judge the credibility of witnesses.' " (Ibid.;

Licudine v. Cedars-Sinai Medical Center (2016) 3 Cal. App. 5th 881, 890.)

                                            B.

                    Managing Agents Acted with Reckless Disregard

       We first turn our attention to whether managing agents knew the reason given

for termination was not substantially true and whether they acted with reckless

disregard for the truth.

       For punitive damages, the plaintiff must prove by clear and convincing evidence

that the defendant acted with "oppression, fraud, or malice" and that those acts were

performed or ratified by an "officer, director or managing agent." (Civ. Code, § 3294,

subds. (a), (b); College Hospital Inc. v. Superior Court (1994) 8 Cal. 4th 704, 726.) A

company ratifies a managing agent's decision when it knows about and accepts the

decision. (Ibid.; Cruz v. HomeBase (2000) 83 Cal. App. 4th 160, 168.)

       The term "managing agent" includes "only those corporate employees who

exercise substantial independent authority and judgment in their corporate

decisionmaking so that their decisions ultimately determine corporate policy." (White v.

Ultramar, Inc. (1999) 21 Cal. 4th 563, 566-567 (White).) It does not depend on the

person's level within the corporate hierarchy but instead the amount of discretion

permitted in making decisions. (Powerhouse Motorsports Group, Inc. v. Yamaha Motor

Corp., U.S.A. (2013) 221 Cal. App. 4th 867, 886, quoting Kelley-Zurian v. Wohl Shoe Co.

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(1994) 22 Cal. App. 4th 397, 421.) The scope of an employee's discretion and authority is

a question of fact. (Davis v. Kiewit Pacific Co. (2013) 220 Cal. App. 4th 358, 366.)

       "The reckless disregard test is not a negligence test measured by whether a

reasonably prudent person would have published, or would have investigated before

publishing, the defamatory statement." (McGarry v. University of San Diego (2007) 154
Cal. App. 4th 97, 114.) Instead, a reckless disregard for truth or falsity is demonstrated

when there is " 'sufficient evidence to permit the conclusion that the defendant in fact

entertained serious doubts as to the truth of his publication,' " but published the statement

anyway. (Copp v. Paxton (1996) 45 Cal. App. 4th 829, 846-847.) This may be

demonstrated through circumstantial evidence, including a failure to investigate, anger

and hostility toward the plaintiff, or reliance on unreliable sources. (Id. at p. 847, quoting

Reader's Digest Assn. v. Superior Court (1984) 37 Cal. 3d 244, 258.)

       Burno was the director of HR, and employees including Alferos reported directly

to him. Allstate argues Burno's job title and role as a supervisor do not establish that he

is a managing agent. Although Burno's hiring and firing authority is not sufficient in

itself to characterize him as a managing agent (White, supra, 21 Cal.4th at p. 566), in his

role overseeing the centralized staff who investigated complaints, he helped guide the

application of company policy. The vice president of HR explained that when judgment

was required, as in cases that were not straightforward like attendance issues, the

manager would make the decisions about discipline. Moreover, Burno exercised

independent authority and judgment in his handling of this particular matter, directing

Alferos to change her conclusion, then altering the conclusion himself later and

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ultimately deciding whether company policy prohibited the behavior in which Tilkey had

engaged. Burno's day-to-day work required the exercise of independent authority and

judgment, making him a managing agent.

       Even if Burno were not a managing agent for Allstate, other managing agents,

Metzger and Harty, ratified the decision. Although Metzger framed the termination

decision as Burno's, other evidence suggests there was collective agreement by other

managing agents, and thus ratification, of the decision. Metzger testified that she was

involved in high-profile cases and unique situations, counseling Burno and serving as his

sounding board. She "fully supported" Burno's decision, and she talked it through with

several "very high-level managers at Allstate," including Harty, who was the head of HR

for the company. In their communications, Metzger and Harty expressed concern about

Tilkey's conduct and whether he should continue to serve as a face of Allstate. The

executive vice president and the president of HR knew about and supported the decision

to terminate Tilkey before his discharge; they had discussions about it, and they reviewed

the paperwork in advance.

       Allstate argues that managing agents did not act with malice because Metzger did

not personally gather any information or see the version of the summary of investigation

that concluded there was no violation of company policy, and because she testified that

she considered Tilkey's behavior to be threatening. This argument ignores that Burno,

who supervised the investigation from the outset, was a managing agent, and Burno's

actions demonstrate a conscious disregard. He directed Alferos to change her conclusion

to justify terminating Tilkey's employment for loss of confidence in him. Then he

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changed the conclusion completely to say Tilkey had "engaged in behavior that was

construed as acts of physical harm and violence towards another person" without

information that Tilkey had, in fact, engaged in physical harm or violence. Metzger was

aware of this change. Moreover, no one from Allstate ever interviewed Mann or looked

into her background, even though it was her e-mails that prompted the internal

investigation. Allstate's reliance on the testimony of Metzger to challenge the finding as

one she made in earnest is self-serving, and testimony which the jury and trial court

found not credible. (See People v. Maciel (2013) 57 Cal. 4th 482, 519 [trial judge or jury

determines credibility of witness and truth or falsity of facts upon which determination

depends].)

                                            C.

                            Availability of Punitive Damages

       Allstate asks us to follow a Minnesota Supreme Court case, Lewis v. Equitable

Life Assurance Soc. (Minn.S.Ct. 1986) 389 N.W.2d 876 (Lewis) to conclude punitive

damages are unavailable in compelled, self-published defamation cases, noting no

California cases have expressly addressed this issue. Tilkey contends that California law

permits punitive damages for defamation, and compelled self-publication is not less

worthy of the same punishment. We agree with Tilkey.

       In Lewis, a group of employees were discharged for "gross insubordination" after

refusing to alter their expense reports following a business trip for which their work was

commended. (Lewis, supra, 389 N.W.2d at pp. 880-882.) The company failed to provide

expense guidelines, then offered differing instructions after the employees returned from

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the business trip, each time asking the employees to adjust their accounting and to repay

the company the difference. (Id. at pp. 881-882.) The employees who refused to do so

were terminated for gross insubordination and denied severance pay. (Id. at pp. 881-

882.)

        The company's policy was to give only the dates of employment and final job titles

of former employees unless specifically authorized in writing to release additional

information. (Lewis, supra, 389 N.W.2d at p. 882.) Despite this, at least once, each

employee stated the reason for termination and attempted to explain the situation in

subsequent job applications. (Ibid.) The Minnesota Supreme Court recognized for the

first time the validity of a compelled self-publication defamation cause of action. (Id. at

p. 888.) However, it declined to permit punitive damages because it was concerned that

their availability could encourage employees to publish the defamatory statements by

employers, deterring employer communication of the reason for the employee's discharge

to the employee. (Id. at p. 892.)

        We reach a different conclusion here. First, punitive damages are available in

cases where the trier of fact finds slander per se. (See Manguso v. Oceanside Unified

School Dist. (1984) 153 Cal. App. 3d 574 [libel per se]; Contento, supra, 28 Cal.App.3d at

p. 359.) The slander here was self-published, but that does not change access to punitive

damages. To be successful with compelled self-publication defamation, a plaintiff

already must prove a necessity and a strong compulsion to disclose the statement, and the

employer must be able to reasonably anticipate the self-publication. (Beroiz, supra, 84

Cal.App.4th at p. 497; Davis, supra, 29 Cal.App.4th at p. 373; McKinney, supra, 110

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Cal.App.3d at p. 796.) The plaintiff also must demonstrate that he actually published the

statement. (Dible v. Haight Ashbury Free Clinics (2009) 170 Cal. App. 4th 843, 851; Live

Oak Publishing Co., supra, 234 Cal.App.3d at p. 1285.) As we discussed ante, these

requirements mean a plaintiff cannot simply manufacture a defamation claim.

       Moreover, the focus for punitive damages is not the plaintiff's repetition of the

defamatory statement to a prospective employer, but the employer's intent. To recover

pecuniary damages, the plaintiff must prove by clear and convincing evidence that an

employer has acted with malice, oppression, or fraud. (Civ. Code, § 3294, subds. (a), (b),

& (c).) An affirmative finding on malice or oppression demonstrates that the jury has

concluded the plaintiff proved the defendant "acted with the requisite reprehensible

motivation . . . thereby defeating the qualified privilege" and also that the "defendant['s]

conduct was also intentionally injurious to, or in conscious disregard of, plaintiff's rights,

thereby meeting the heightened requirements of malice (or oppression) necessary to

support an award of punitive damages." (Lundquist v. Reusser (1994) 7 Cal. 4th 1193,

1214, citing Civ. Code, § 3294, subd. (c)(1) & (2) [discussing prejudicial error after

concluding plaintiff bears the burden of proving malice].) Collectively, these additional

elements and heightened burden of proof already provide a safeguard against the plaintiff

self-publishing defamatory statements just so he or she can sue a former employer. If the

employee were not already encouraged to repeat the defamatory statements because of

the availability of a cause of action for compelled self-defamation, we fail to see how the

additional burdens created by the need to also prove the defendant's motive by clear and

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convincing evidence, even in light of potentially increased recovery, increases the

likelihood that a plaintiff would bring a defamation lawsuit.

       We note, too, there are some factual differences between Lewis and the matter

before us. Chief among them is the company policy in Lewis not to disclose more than a

former employee's dates of employment and final job title. (See Lewis, supra, 389

N.W.2d at p. 882.) Although the court there ultimately found there was a viable

compelled self-publication cause of action (Id. at p. 888), this type of fact would tend to

cut against the requirement that self-publication be foreseeable (Beroiz, supra, 84

Cal.App.4th at p. 497; Live Oak Publishing, supra, 234 Cal.App.3d at p. 1285). In

contrast, here the evidence that the self-publication was compelled, necessary, and

foreseeable was strong: Allstate published the statement on the Form U5, which was

available to all firms that hired licensed broker-dealers; the jobs to which Tilkey applied

included such jobs, and employers, including Allstate, routinely reviewed that

information before hiring an individual. This was not a situation where the availability of

the statement to prospective employers was questionable; Tilkey's disclosure of the

allegation was already in the public sphere, necessitating its repetition to challenge its

veracity. Even with an explanation of his situation, the allegation would be, as the

vocational expert explained, "an absolute killer."

                                             D.

                           Constitutionality of Punitive Damages

       Allstate contends the punitive damages award violates due process because the

large ratio between punitive damages and compensatory damages, a ratio greater than six

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to one, is disproportionate and far exceeds civil penalties for the same violation. We

agree.

         "Appellate courts conduct de novo review of a trial court's application of the

guideposts to the jury's punitive damage award." (Nickerson v. Stonebridge Life

Insurance Co. (2016) 5 Cal. App. 5th 1, 15 (Nickerson).) Three factors determine whether

punitive damages are excessive: (1) degree of reprehensibility of the defendant's

misconduct; (2) disparity between actual or potential harm suffered and the pecuniary

award; and (3) the difference between the punitive damages award and comparable civil

penalties.7 (Simon, supra, 35 Cal.4th pp. 1171-1172; State Farm Mutual Auto Insurance

Co. v. Campbell (2003) 538 U.S. 408, 418 (State Farm); Major v. Western Home

Insurance Co. (2009) 169 Cal. App. 4th 1197, 1222-1223 (Major).) Because the parties

agree there are no corresponding civil penalties for the defamation, we consider only the

first two factors.

                                     1. Reprehensibility

         The degree of reprehensibility is the most important indication of the

reasonableness of the defendant's conduct. (Roby v. McKesson Corp. (2009) 47 Cal. 4th
7      The parties do not clearly parse out these factors with attention to each cause of
action separately. Because we conclude the company's termination was not wrongful,
damages should be limited to those resulting from the defamation cause of action, and we
have attempted to so limit our review here. We are cognizant that the jury concluded the
reason provided for Tilkey's termination, while not unlawful under section 432.7, was
nonetheless not substantially true and was defamatory. Accordingly, we view the
emotional distress that arose from defamation as the basis for punitive damages in this
case.

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686, 713 (Roby); Nickerson, supra, 5 Cal.App.5th at p. 16.) Courts consider five factors

for assessing the degree of reprehensibility: (1) physical harm; (2) indifference or

reckless disregard for health or safety of others; (3) whether target was financially

vulnerable; (4) if the conduct was repeated or isolated; and (5) if the conduct was

intentional or accidental. (Major, supra, 169 Cal.App.4th at p. 1223, citing State Farm,

supra, 538 U.S. at p. 419; Simon, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 1180.)

       Harm is physical when it affects emotional and mental health and is not purely

economic. (Roby, supra, 47 Cal.4th at p. 713.) Tilkey testified that he endured weight

gain, bouts of crying, loss of sleep, physical tension, and tightness in his chest. Thus,

there was evidence that he suffered physical symptoms from emotional distress. (See

Nickerson, supra, 5 Cal.App.5th at p. 17.) It is not clear from the record whether these

physical manifestations were the result of his termination, the defamatory statement, or a

combination of the two. However, the jury awarded separate amounts for emotional

distress damages tied to wrongful discharge and for shame, mortification, or hurt feelings

tied to defamation, suggesting distress from each action. It is not possible to separate out

the physical manifestations of the distress resulting from the discharge from the shame,

mortification, or hurt feelings resulting from the defamation, but it is clear this factor

weighs in favor of a finding of reprehensibility.

       Allstate argues that the second factor is not supported because Allstate was

motivated by concerns about the health and safety of others, by enforcing its policy

prohibiting threats of violence against any person. This interpretation of the facts

presented relies on the conclusion that Tilkey's actions constituted a threat of violence

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against another person, a conclusion with which the jury disagreed in light of its finding

that the statement was not substantially true. Instead, the trial court viewed Allstate's

motivations as concerned more with its own reputation than ascertaining the truth. This

conclusion, again, is supported by the evidence outlined in greater detail ante.

       With respect to the third factor, Allstate argues that Tilkey's only financial

vulnerability was that his employment was terminated, making him no different than any

other person who lost a job. Tilkey was different than the typical employee because he

relied on the company-issued cell phone and car for his everyday use. However, this

evidence, as well as evidence of his 30-year career with Allstate, is only relevant if

Tilkey's termination were wrongful. Having previously concluded it was not, we focus

on financial vulnerability with respect to the defamatory statement Allstate made. As the

trial court mentioned, the circumstances of Tilkey's termination precluded him from

finding future employment and forced him to live off his "dwindling 401K" without job

prospects, in part because Allstate blocked him from accepting lucrative jobs. In some

sense, Tilkey's long-standing professional relationship with Allstate made him dependent

on the company's recommendation for future employment, making Allstate's description

of his behavior as threatening or causing physical violence against another particularly

damaging for future job prospects. Allstate points out Tilkey earned an average of

$200,000 annually, had savings, and was awarded compensatory damages. Perhaps

Tilkey's savings meant he was not as financially vulnerable as someone without. This

factor is close but probably weighs slightly against supporting a finding of

reprehensibility.

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       Finally, although Allstate contends its conduct was a one-time event, a statement

offered only at the time of Tilkey's termination meeting, this ignores its defamatory

statement on the Form U5, which could be repeatedly accessed by third parties, and it

ignores Tilkey's need and strong compulsion to repeat the statement. These additional

acts, for which Allstate is responsible, weigh in favor of finding its action reprehensible.

       Although the fifth factor is of little consequence because acts must be intentional

to qualify for punitive damages, (Major, supra, 169 Cal.App.4th at p. 1223, quoting

Simon, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 1181), we address it here briefly to note the jury's

determination that the statement was not substantially true indicates some intentionality

on the part of the company. (Roby, supra, 47 Cal.4th at p. 716 [jury award of punitive

damages requires finding malice, fraud, or oppression].) Metzger testified that she

sincerely believed Tilkey's admission that he banged on the door to gain access for his

personal belongings, the frame of the door was broken, and Tilkey was arrested was

sufficient evidence that he engaged in threatening behavior and/or acts of physical harm

or violence to another. The company made this determination without communicating

directly with Mann, without seeming to consider that the charge was for disorderly

conduct and not threatening behavior, and while recognizing that the decision to

discharge Tilkey's employment really could go either way. After observing the evidence

offered at trial, the court concluded Allstate had not made a reasonable effort to

determine whether its statement was true, and it explained: "Allstate's contention that

Plaintiff's banging on the door was reasonably interpreted as 'threatening behavior' was

not believable."

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       Our independent review of these factors supports the conclusion that Allstate's

defamatory behavior was reprehensible.

              2. Relationship Between Punitive and Compensatory Damages

       Punitive damages must bear a "reasonable relationship" to compensatory damages.

(BMW of North America, Inc. v. Gore (1996) 517 U.S. 559, 580-581; Little v. Stuyvesant

Life Insurance Co. (1977) 67 Cal. App. 3d 451, 469.) While " 'relatively high ratios could

be justified when " 'a particularly egregious act has resulted in only a small amount of

economic damages,' " ' " when a jury awards substantial compensatory damages, a lesser

ratio can reach the limits of the due process guarantee. (Major, supra, 169 Cal.App.4th at

p. 1224, quoting Simon, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 1182.) Although there is no bright line

regarding the proper ratio of punitive to compensatory damages, the United States

Supreme Court has suggested the ratio should generally be no higher than four to one and

almost never nine to one. (Gober v. Ralphs Grocery Co. (2006) 137 Cal. App. 4th 204,

213 (Gober), citing State Farm, supra, 538 U.S. at p. 425.)

       The jury awarded Tilkey $960,222 for wrongful discharge and $1,702,915 in

actual damages for defamation. The punitive damages award was $15,978,822, a ratio of

six times the compensatory damages amount. Even without excluding the damages

awarded for wrongful discharge, this ratio strikes us as excessive given the level of

reprehensibility here. Without the compensatory damages awarded for wrongful

discharge, the ratio is greater than nine to one, a ratio we conclude is constitutionally

excessive. (See Gober, supra, 137 Cal.App.4th at pp. 213, 214.) Additionally, because

the jury's punitive damages award is not allocated to the various liabilities it found, it is

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not possible to know how much punishment the jury felt was necessary for the company's

defamatory action, which must serve as the basis for the damages in this case.

Accordingly, we will remand the matter for reconsideration of the appropriate amount of

punitive damages based on defamation.

                                            IV.

                            AFTER-ACQUIRED EVIDENCE

       An employer may exercise an after-acquired evidence defense in response to a

wrongful termination cause of action. (McKennon v. Nashville Banner Publ. Co. (1995)

513 U.S. 352, 362-363.) To establish this defense, the employer must demonstrate the

employee engaged in wrongdoing that would have resulted in a termination of

employment. (Ibid.) This cuts off damages from the date on which the evidence was

discovered. (Salas v. Sierra Chemical Co. (2014) 59 Cal. 4th 407, 430.)

       Because the company did not violate section 432.7, the after-acquired evidence

defense is not relevant. Accordingly, we decline to address this issue.

                                      DISPOSITION

       The order denying Allstate's motion for JNOV regarding wrongful termination for

violation of section 432.7 is reversed, and the matter is remanded to the trial court with

directions to enter a judgment for Allstate on these causes of action. We affirm the

portions of the judgment finding Allstate liable for defamation and punitive damages.

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      We remand the matter for the limited review of the proper amount of punitive

damages against Allstate based on the defamation cause of action.

      The parties shall bear their own costs on appeal.

                                                                        HUFFMAN, J.

WE CONCUR:

McCONNELL, P. J.

GUERRERO, J.

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