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IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF NORTH CAROLINA

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                                        No. COA21-493

                                       Filed 3 May 2022

     Randolph County, No. 18-CRS-52222

     STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA

                   v.

     STAMEY JASON DARR

             Appeal by defendant from judgment entered 19 February 2021 by Judge V.

       Bradford Long in Randolph County Superior Court. Heard in the Court of Appeals

       26 January 2022.

             NC Prisoner Legal Services, Inc., by Marilyn G. Ozer, for Defendant-Appellant.

             Attorney General Joshua H. Stein, by Assistant Attorney General Joseph L.
             Hyde, for the State.

             CARPENTER, Judge.

¶1           Stamey Jason Darr (“Defendant”) was indicted on 1 October 2018 for statutory

       rape and forcible rape of the victim (“Victim”). On 19 February 2021, the trial court

       convicted Defendant of statutory rape, and he appealed. After careful review, we find

       no error.

                                I. Factual & Procedural Background

¶2           Defendant was born on 20 May 1982, and Victim was born on 30 August 2001.

       Victim testified Defendant first had vaginal intercourse with her in 2016; Victim was
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     fourteen years old, and Defendant was thirty-three years old. Victim testified sexual

     contact between her and Defendant was consistent and continued through 2018. The

     indictment listed 2017 as the date of the vaginal intercourse. In August 2018, Victim

     told her high school guidance counselor about her sexual contacts with Defendant,

     and the counselor notified law enforcement officers.

¶3         Randolph County Sheriff’s Detective Sibbett requested Defendant come to the

     Sheriff’s Office to discuss a “DSS referral,” which concerned an unrelated shooting on

     Defendant’s property, and Defendant did so. Defendant was not formally arrested or

     restrained when he arrived. Defendant was interrogated by Detectives Trogden and

     Sibbett on the topic of the “DSS referral.” During interrogation, Defendant was

     allowed to leave to use the restroom and make phone calls.         After questioning

     regarding the shooting incident ceased, the interrogation shifted to Defendant’s

     relationship with Victim.

¶4         Detective Trogden assured Defendant he was not under arrest and told

     Defendant he could leave.     The detectives questioned Defendant about Victim’s

     allegations and played a recording of Defendant speaking with Victim. After hearing

     his recorded conversation with Victim, Defendant told the detectives he had engaged

     in vaginal intercourse with Victim multiple times in 2017 and 2018.

¶5         After Defendant’s confession, the detectives left the room, and a Department

     of Social Services (“DSS”) employee entered the room to speak with Defendant. After
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     the DSS employee left the room, the detectives returned, and Detective Sibbett told

     Defendant he was under arrest and would be charged.           Detective Sibbett read

     Defendant his Miranda Rights. Defendant stated, “I’ll talk to you but I want a lawyer

     with it and I don’t have the money for one.”

¶6         After Defendant stated he wanted “a lawyer with it,” the detectives asked

     several questions to clarify Defendant’s wishes. Detective Trogden told Defendant he

     did not see how talking with the detectives “could hurt [Defendant],” and “[he]

     want[ed] to make sure [Defendant was] willing to speak[.]” Detective Trogden then

     asked Defendant if he wished to speak without a lawyer present, if he wished to speak

     with the detectives, and if he wanted a lawyer present for questioning.

¶7         Detective Trogden asked Defendant to respond “yes or no” to whether

     Defendant would answer questions without an attorney present.               Defendant

     answered in the affirmative and signed a waiver of his right to counsel. Defendant

     continued to speak with the detectives; however, Defendant did not expand on his

     earlier confession after his arrest. The video of the Defendant’s interrogation by

     Detectives Sibbet and Trogden records the following exchange, in relevant part:

                  Detective Sibbet: I’ve been told Detective Sibbet, who I
                  understand to be a Detective, that he would like to question
                  me—has also explained to me, and I understand that—I
                  have the right to remain silent. That means I do not have
                  to answer anything or answer any questions. Anything I
                  can say can be used against me. I have the right to talk to
                  a lawyer, and to have a lawyer present here with me that
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will advise and help me during questioning. If I want to
have a lawyer with me during questioning, but cannot
afford one, a lawyer will be provided to me at no cost before
our questioning. You good there?
Defendant: Yes, sir.
Detective Sibbet: I understand my rights as explained
by Detective Sibbet. I now state that I do? Wish? [pause]
to answer any questions at this time. Is that—would you
like to talk to me?
Defendant: I mean I do but I wanna, I don’t know what
to do.
Detective Trogden: We can’t make this decision for you.
Detective Sibbet: That’s up to you, brother.
Defendant: There’s just so much to think – I mean, am I
going to be charged? I mean, I just, I just want to know
that, can you tell me that?
Detective Sibbet: We don’t set bonds, that’s completely
up to the court.
...
Detective Trogden: Before we can go any further in this
discussing the whole matter, we need to know what you
want to do as far as talking to us.
Defendant: I’ll talk but I want to hire a lawyer with it. I
mean, I don’t have to money to get one. . . .
Detective Trogden: Well, the court is going to appoint
an attorney to represent you, but just to be clear, you want
to talk to us right now?
Defendant: I mean, yeah.
Detective Trogden: Okay.
Defendant: I mean, you’ll help me, right?
Detective Trogden: It certainly can’t hurt.
Detective Trogden: I think us understanding the truth
about what happened will help.
Defendant: [Unintelligible]
Detective Sibbet: Well yeah, this is your opportunity.
Detective Trogden: Would it help if we read it to you
again?
Defendant: No sir, I know what it says.
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                  Detective Trogden: Well, what we need you to do is
                  initial where it says initial. . . .
                  ...
                  Detective Sibbet: Just so we’re clear, you do want to talk
                  to us right now?
                  Defendant: Yeah, I mean, I’ll talk to y’all. But I know I
                  need a lawyer.
                  Detective Trogden: So are you, are you saying, you want
                  to talk to us with a lawyer present, are you saying that you
                  want to talk to us, are you saying that you don’t walk to
                  talk to us?
                  Defendant: I mean I wanna talk, I wanna get this figured
                  this out, so I can do whatever.
                  Detective Trogden: Well, it’s very important that we’re
                  clear right now as to whether or not you want an attorney.
                  Do you want an attorney to be here with you now or are
                  you saying that you’re willing to talk to us without an
                  attorney present? Like, we understand that you’re going
                  to get an attorney later to represent you for these charges.
                  Defendant: So once I talk to y’all, I guess we’ll go to the
                  magistrate?
                  Detective Trogden: Yes sir, that’s correct, but to answer
                  my question, is that a yes, or a no?
                  Defendant: I mean, I’ll talk to you.

¶8         Defendant moved to suppress any statements given in his interrogation and

     moved to dismiss his statutory rape charge. The trial court found Defendant’s alleged

     request for counsel “equivocal” and “ambiguous,” and the trial court found Detective

     Trogden’s statements to be “a poor choice of words in light of all the circumstances”

     but not an inducement to sign the waiver. Both of Defendant’s motions were denied.

     Defendant was convicted by a jury of statutory rape of a child 15 year or younger, but

     was found not guilty of second degree forcible rape. Defendant was sentenced as a
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       prior record level II to an active term of 240 to 348 months. Defendant gave oral

       notice of appeal.

                                         II. Jurisdiction

¶9           This Court has jurisdiction to address Defendant’s appeal pursuant to N.C.

       Gen. Stat. § 7A-27(b) (2021) and N.C. Gen. Stat. § 15A-1444(a) (2021).

                                             III. Issues

¶ 10         The issues on appeal are whether the trial court erred in denying: (1)

       Defendant’s motion to suppress, or (2) Defendant’s motion to dismiss.

                                       IV. Standards of Review

¶ 11         Our review of a trial court’s denial of a motion to suppress is “strictly limited

       to determining whether the trial judge’s underlying findings of fact are supported by

       competent evidence, in which event they are conclusively binding on appeal, and

       whether those factual findings in turn support the judge’s ultimate conclusions of

       law.” State v. Cooke, 306 N.C. 132, 134, 291 S.E.2d 618, 619 (1982).

¶ 12         “This Court reviews the trial court’s denial of a motion to dismiss de novo.”

       State v. Smith, 186 N.C. App. 57, 62, 650 S.E.2d 29, 33 (2007). “Upon a defendant’s

       motion to dismiss for insufficient evidence, the question for the Court is whether

       there is substantial evidence (1) of each essential element of the offense charged . . .

       and (2) of defendant’s being the perpetrator of such offense.” State v. Cox, 367 N.C.

       147, 150, 749 S.E.2d 271, 274 (2013) (internal quotations and citations omitted).
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       “Substantial evidence is such relevant evidence as a reasonable mind might accept

       as adequate to support a conclusion.” State v. Smith, 300 N.C. 71, 78-79, 265 S.E.2d

       164, 169 (1980). “The evidence is to be considered in the light most favorable to the

       State, and the State is entitled to . . . every reasonable inference to be drawn

       therefrom.” Cox, 367 N.C. at 150, 749 S.E.2d at 274 (internal quotation marks and

       citations omitted).

                                            IV. Analysis

       A. Motion to Suppress

¶ 13         Defendant first contends the evidence from his interrogation should be

       suppressed because he requested and did not receive counsel.

¶ 14         Under the Fifth Amendment, “an accused . . . having expressed his desire to

       deal with the police only through counsel, is not subject to further interrogation by

       the authorities until counsel has been made available to him, unless the accused

       himself initiates further communication, exchanges, or conversations with the

       police.” Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U.S. 477, 484-85 (1981). A defendant has the right

       to have an attorney present during custodial interrogation “[i]f . . . he indicates . . .

       he wishes to consult with an attorney before speaking.” Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S.

       436, 444-45 (1966).

¶ 15          A request for counsel must be unambiguous. State v. Hyatt, 355 N.C. 642, 655,

       566 S.E.2d 61, 70 (2002) (citing Davis v. United States, 512 U.S. 452, 459 (1994)). A
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       request for counsel is unambiguous if the suspect “articulate[s] his desire to have

       counsel present sufficiently clearly that a reasonable police officer in the

       circumstances would understand the statement to be a request for an attorney.” State

       v. Golphin, 352 N.C. 364, 450, 533 S.E.2d 168, 225 (2000) (quoting Davis, 512 U.S. at

       459). “[W]hen a suspect makes an ambiguous or equivocal statement it will often be

       good police practice for the interviewing officers to clarify whether or not he actually

       wants an attorney.” State v. Taylor, 247 N.C. App. 221, 226, 784 S.E.2d 224, 228

       (2016) (quoting Davis, 512 U.S. at 461).

¶ 16         The right to presence of counsel during questioning applies only to custodial

       interrogation. State v. Medlin, 333 N.C. 280, 290, 426 S.E.2d 402, 407 (1993). “[T]he

       appropriate inquiry in determining whether a defendant is ‘in custody’ for purposes

       of Miranda is, based on the totality of the circumstances, whether there was a ‘formal

       arrest or restraint on freedom of movement of the degree associated with a formal

       arrest.’” State v. Buchanan, 353 N.C. 332, 339, 543 S.E.2d 823, 828 (2001). This

       inquiry is an objective determination. Id. at 341, 543 S.E.2d at 829.

¶ 17         Here, Defendant came to the Randolph County Sheriff’s Office on his own

       volition. Prior to Defendant’s confessing to sexual intercourse with Victim, Detective

       Trogden told Defendant he was not under arrest and could leave.                Further,

       Defendant’s freedom of movement was not restrained; he was allowed to use the

       restroom and make phone calls. Therefore, based on the totality of the circumstances,
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       competent evidence shows Defendant was not in custody when he confessed to having

       sexual intercourse with Victim. See Cooke, 306 N.C. at 134, 291 S.E.2d at 619;

       Buchanan, 353 N.C. at 339, 543 S.E.2d at 828. Defendant was not in custody when

       he first confessed and voluntarily answered the questions of the detectives.

       Therefore, an analysis of a request-for-counsel inquiry is inapplicable to Defendant’s

       initial confession. See Medlin, 333 N.C. at 290, 426 S.E.2d at 407.

¶ 18         After Defendant’s initial confession, the detectives arrested Defendant, read

       him his Miranda rights, and told him he would be charged. At this point, Defendant

       was in custody, as he had been formally arrested. See Buchanan, at 341, 543 S.E.2d

       at 829. Therefore, Defendant’s statements made after his formal arrest are subject

       to a request-for-counsel inquiry, as these statements were made during a custodial

       interrogation. See Medlin, 333 N.C. at 290, 426 S.E.2d at 407.

¶ 19         After Defendant was arrested, he stated, “I’ll talk but I want to hire a lawyer

       with it. I mean, I don’t have to money to get one.” It is unclear what Defendant meant

       by “I want a lawyer with it;” in light of his initial voluntary confession, “it” could have

       referred to the charge, the expected trial, or the interrogation.         The detectives

       repeatedly tried to clarify Defendant’s request, a practice labeled by this Court as

       “good police practice.” See Taylor, 247 N.C. App. at 226, 784 S.E.2d at 228. Defendant

       then agreed to continue the interrogation without counsel and signed a waiver of

       counsel. In the factual context of this case, a reasonable police officer would not
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       understand Defendant’s statement as an unambiguous request for counsel during

       interrogation. See Golphin, 352 N.C. at 450, 533 S.E.2d at 225.

¶ 20         In his brief, Defendant cites to State v. Torres, a case overruled on several

       grounds, to assert the detectives did not seek to clarify his comments; rather,

       Defendant asserts Detective Trogden attempted to dissuade him from obtaining

       counsel. See State v. Torres, 330 N.C. 517, 412 S.E.2d 20 (1992); State v. Williams,

       366 N.C. 110, 114, 726 S.E.2d 161, 165 (2012). The trial court found one of Detective

       Trogden’s comments to be a “poor choice of words,” but was not an inducement to

       waive counsel. After making the comments, Detective Trogden asked Defendant if

       he wished to speak without a lawyer present, if he wished to speak with the

       detectives, and if he wanted a lawyer present for questioning. Detective Trogden

       asked several questions that were clarifying in nature, and only one that “was a poor

       choice or words.”

¶ 21         Because Defendant’s statement was ambiguous, and the questions that

       followed were intended to clarify the statement, competent evidence shows

       Defendant’s right to counsel was not violated. See Hyatt, 355 N.C. at 655, 566 S.E.2d

       at 70; Golphin, 352 N.C. at 450, 533 S.E.2d at 225; Taylor, 247 N.C. App. at 226, 784

       S.E.2d at 228; Cooke, 306 N.C. at 134, 291 S.E.2d at 619.

¶ 22         Accordingly, competent evidence exists to support the finding Defendant was

       not in custody until after his arrest. Any statement made prior to his arrest was valid
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       and not subject to a right-to-counsel analysis, and an analysis of Defendant’s right to

       counsel is only applicable to his statements made after arrest. See Taylor, 247 N.C.

       App. at 226, 784 S.E.2d at 228; Medlin, 333 N.C. at 290, 426 S.E.2d at 407. The trial

       court’s findings were supported by competent evidence to show Defendant’s request

       was ambiguous at the time the request was made, and the detective’s statements

       were an attempt to clarify Defendant’s statements. Therefore, the statements made

       after Defendant’s arrest were not subject to suppression. These findings supported

       the trial court’s conclusion to deny Defendant’s motion to suppress. See Cooke, 306

       N.C. at 134, 291 S.E.2d at 619.

       B. Motion to Dismiss

¶ 23         Defendant argues the trial court erred in denying his motion to dismiss

       because the dates alleged in the indictment varied from Victim’s testimony, and the

       only evidence supporting the charge was imprecise testimony.

¶ 24         A defendant is guilty of a Class B1 felony if the defendant engages in vaginal

       intercourse with another person who is fifteen years of age or younger, and the

       defendant is at least twelve years old and six years older than the other person. N.C.

       Gen. Stat. § 14-27.25(a) (2021). The elements of statutory rape are: (1) vaginal

       intercourse; (2) with a child who is fifteen years old or younger; and (3) the defendant

       is at least six years older than the child. State v. Sprouse, 217 N.C. App. 230, 240,

       719 S.E.2d 234, 242 (2011).
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¶ 25         An indictment must allege facts supporting each element of the offense

       charged. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 15A-924(a)(5) (2021). An indictment must also identify

       the date of offense. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 15A-924(a)(4). However, “[e]rror as to a date or

       its omission is not ground for dismissal of the charges or for reversal of a conviction

       if time was not of the essence with respect to the charge and the error or omission did

       not mislead the defendant to his prejudice.” N.C. Gen. Stat. § 15A-924(a)(4).

¶ 26         The date given in an indictment for statutory rape “is not an essential element

       of the crime charged. . . .” State v. Norris, 101 N.C. App. 144, 151, 398 S.E.2d 652,

       656 (1990). Particularly in cases involving the sexual abuse of children, courts are

       lenient concerning differences between dates alleged in the indictment and dates

       proven at trial. State v. McGriff, 151 N.C. App. 631, 637, 566 S.E.2d 776, 779 (2002).

       A victim’s testimony of sexual intercourse is enough to uphold a trial court’s denial of

       a motion to dismiss. State v. Estes, 99 N.C. App. 312, 316, 393 S.E.2d 158, 160 (1990);

       State v. Bruce, 315 N.C. 273, 281, 337 S.E.2d 510, 516 (1985) (stating a victim’s

       testimony the defendant penetrated her is all that is “required to permit the jury to

       find beyond a reasonable doubt that the penetration had in fact occurred”).

¶ 27         Here, Victim testified Defendant engaged in vaginal intercourse with her in

       2016 when she was fourteen years old, and Defendant was nineteen years her elder.

       Defendant admitted to having vaginal intercourse with Victim in 2017, but it is
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       unclear whether these occasions were before or after Victim’s fifteenth birthday. The

       date of the vaginal intercourse listed on the indictment was 2017.

¶ 28         Variance between the date on the indictment and Victim’s testimony is not

       enough to justify a motion to dismiss, as the date given on an indictment for statutory

       rape is not an essential element of the crime, and courts are lenient concerning dates

       in cases involving the sexual abuse of minors. See Norris, 101 N.C. App. at 151, 398

       S.E.2d at 656; McGriff, 151 N.C. App. at 637, 566 S.E.2d at 779. Therefore, Victim’s

       testimony alleging vaginal intercourse in 2016 between her and Defendant—when

       Victim was fourteen and Defendant was nineteen years her elder—is sufficient to

       survive a motion to dismiss. See Sprouse, 217 N.C. App. at 240, 719 S.E.2d at 242;

       Estes, 99 N.C. App. at 316, 393 S.E.2d at 160.

¶ 29         Accordingly, the trial court properly denied Defendant’s motion to dismiss, as

       relevant evidence existed to support a finding of each essential element of the offense

       charged and to maintain Defendant was the perpetrator. See Cox, 367 N.C. at 150,

       749 S.E.2d at 274; Smith, 300 N.C. at 78-79, 265 S.E.2d at 169.

                                         VI. Conclusion

¶ 30         Competent evidence exists to support the finding Defendant was not in custody

       until after his arrest. An analysis of Defendant’s right to counsel in the context of

       this case is only applicable to his confession made after his arrest. Therefore, any

       statement made prior to Defendant’s arrest—including his confession—was valid and
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       not subject to a right-to-counsel analysis.      Further, competent evidence shows

       Defendant’s request, though custodial, was ambiguous, and therefore, did not trigger

       his right to counsel. See Taylor, 247 N.C. App. at 226, 784 S.E.2d at 228; Medlin, 333

       N.C. at 290, 426 S.E.2d at 407; Cooke, 306 N.C. at 134, 291 S.E.2d at 619.

¶ 31         Lastly, the trial court properly denied Defendant’s motion to dismiss the

       charge of statutory rape, as relevant evidence existed to support a finding of each

       essential element of the offense charged and to maintain Defendant was the

       perpetrator. See Cox, 367 N.C. at 150, 749 S.E.2d at 274; Smith, 300 N.C. at 78-79,

       265 S.E.2d at 169. Accordingly, we find no error in the jury’s verdict or in the

       judgment entered thereon.

             NO ERROR

             Judge TYSON concurs.

             Judge ARROWOOD concurs in separate opinion.
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             ARROWOOD, Judge, concurring in result.

¶ 32         I concur in the result of the majority opinion affirming defendant’s conviction,

       and further concur in the majority’s analysis regarding defendant’s initial confession

       and motion to dismiss. I write separately, however, to address defendant’s request

       for counsel during the custodial interrogation. Although the majority concludes

       defendant’s request was ambiguous and Detective Trogdon’s questions were “good

       police practice” aimed at clarifying defendant’s request, I believe defendant’s request

       was sufficiently clear and unambiguous.

¶ 33         As the majority correctly notes, a defendant must make an unambiguous

       request for counsel which articulates their desire to have an attorney present at

       custodial interrogation, “sufficiently clearly that a reasonable police officer in the

       circumstances would understand the statement to be a request for an attorney.” See

       State v. Hyatt, 355 N.C. 642, 655, 566 S.E.2d 61, 70 (2002) (citation omitted); State v.

       Golphin, 352 N.C. 364, 450, 533 S.E.2d 168, 225 (2000) (citations and quotation

       marks omitted).

                    There are no “magic words” which must be uttered in order
                    to invoke one’s right to counsel. The crucial determination
                    is whether the person has indicated “in any manner” a
                    desire to have the help of an attorney during custodial
                    interrogation. . . . In deciding whether a person has
                    invoked [their] right to counsel, therefore, a court must
                    look not only at the words spoken, but the context in which
                    they are spoken as well.

       State v. Barber, 335 N.C. 120, 130, 436 S.E.2d 106, 111 (1993) (quoting State v. Torres,
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       330 N.C. 517, 528, 412 S.E.2d 20, 26 (1992)). “[A] statement either is such an

       assertion of the right to counsel or it is not.” Davis v. United States, 512 U.S. 452,

       459, 129 L. Ed. 2d 362, 371 (1994) (citation and quotation marks omitted). “If a

       criminal suspect invokes his right to counsel at any time during custodial

       interrogation, the interrogation must cease, and it cannot be resumed in the absence

       of an attorney unless the defendant initiates further discussion with the officers.”

       Hyatt, 355 N.C. at 655, 566 S.E.2d at 70 (citations omitted).

¶ 34         In Davis, the United States Supreme Court held that a defendant’s statement,

       “Maybe I should talk to a lawyer,” made an hour and a half into his interrogation,

       was not a request for counsel. Davis, 512 U.S. at 462, 129 L. Ed. 2d at 373. In Hyatt,

       the North Carolina Supreme Court held that a defendant’s statements were

       insufficient to constitute an invocation of his Fifth Amendment right to counsel

       because the statements “conveyed his father’s wish that [defendant] get an attorney,”

       but did not unambiguously convey defendant’s own desire to receive the assistance of

       counsel. Hyatt, 355 N.C. at 656-57, 566 S.E.2d at 71. Similarly, in State v. Dix, this

       Court held that a defendant’s statement, “I’m probably gonna have to have a lawyer,”

       was not sufficiently unambiguous when taken out of context. State v. Dix, 194 N.C.

       App. 151, 156, 669 S.E.2d 25, 28 (2008), writ denied, disc. review denied, appeal

       dismissed, 363 N.C. 376, 679 S.E.2d 140 (2009).

¶ 35         In this case, once defendant was formally arrested, he initially expressed
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       uncertainty about what he wanted to do. Detective Sibbett told defendant that the

       detectives “need to know what [defendant] want[s] to do as far as talking” with them,

       and defendant responded “I’ll talk but I want to hire a lawyer with it. I mean, I don’t

       have the money to get one . . . .” The following exchange ensued:

                    Detective Trogdon: Well, the court is going to appoint an
                    attorney to represent you, okay, but just to be clear, you
                    want to talk to us right now?

                    Defendant: I mean, yeah.

                    Detective Trogdon: Okay.

                    Defendant: I mean you’ll help me right?

                    Detective Trogdon: It certainly can’t hurt.

       Detective Trogdon offered to read defendant his rights again, but defendant stated

       that he knew “what [the paper] says.” Detective Trogdon then directed defendant to

       sign, date and initial a form indicating that he waived his right to have counsel

       present for the interrogation.     After defendant returned the completed form,

       Detective Sibbett again asked, “[j]ust so we’re clear, you do want to talk to us right

       now?” Defendant responded, “[y]eah, I mean, I’ll talk to y’all. But I know I need a

       lawyer.”

¶ 36         Detective Trogdon then asked, “are you saying that you want to talk to us with

       a lawyer present, or are you saying that you want to talk to us, or are you saying that

       you don’t want to talk with us?” Defendant responded, “I wanna talk, I want to get
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       this figured out so I can . . . do whatever, I mean . . . .” Detective Trogdon responded

       that it was “very important that we’re clear right now as to whether or not you want

       an attorney. Do you want an attorney to be here with you now or are you saying that

       you’re willing to talk to us without an attorney present?” Detective Trogdon noted

       that defendant was “going to get an attorney later to represent [him] for these

       charges.” Defendant responded, “[s]o once I talk to y’all, I guess we’ll go to the

       magistrate?” Detective Trogdon told defendant that was correct, and asked regarding

       his previous question, “is that a yes, or a no[,]” to which defendant responded, “I

       mean, I’ll talk to you.”

¶ 37          Although defendant initially expressed some willingness to speak with police,

       his statements were also clear that he wanted a lawyer before doing so. Rather than

       ceasing the interrogation at that point, Detective Trogdon stated that counsel would

       be appointed and framed defendant’s statements as an indication that he “want[ed]

       to talk to” the detectives. When Detective Sibbett made a similar inquiry, defendant

       again stated “[b]ut I know I need a lawyer.”

¶ 38          This case is distinguishable from the aforementioned cases where defendants

       stated that they “maybe” or “probably” needed to speak with a lawyer before custodial

       interrogation, or failed to articulate their own desires. Instead, defendant stated that

       he would talk to police, “but I want a lawyer with it . . . [and] I don’t have the money

       to get one . . . .” (emphasis added). This was an unequivocal, unambiguous request
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       for counsel, combined with a statement that defendant could not afford to hire

       counsel.   Once defendant told Detective Trogdon that he wanted a lawyer, the

       custodial interrogation should have ceased, and Detective Trogdon’s statements,

       including stating how he did not see how talking to police “could hurt [defendant],”

       were improper. This is especially clear given defendant’s later statement reasserting

       his desire for the assistance of counsel. Although defendant eventually did agree to

       talk with the detectives after a more detailed inquiry, the interrogation should have

       ceased prior to that point. As the United States Supreme Court held, a defendant’s

       statement is either “an assertion of the right to counsel or it is not[,]” and in this case

       a reasonable police officer should have understood defendant’s statement was an

       invocation of his right to counsel. Davis, 512 U.S. at 459, 129 L. Ed. 2d at 371 (citation

       and quotation marks omitted).

¶ 39         Nevertheless, because defendant’s initial confession was made voluntarily and

       prior to custodial interrogation, the trial court’s decision regarding the suppression

       of defendant’s later statements amounts to harmless error. And although the trial

       court’s error does not impact the result of this appeal, I believe it is important to set

       out the correct analysis rather than perpetuating the trial court’s error.