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LYNCH, Circuit Judge,
dissenting.
When the government chooses to listen only to its own voice in the political process by excluding the voices of private citizens, core First Amendment values are violated. At the heart of this case is not the ability of the Rhode Island House to promulgate rules for the conduct of its own business, but the defendants’ actual practice, directly contrary to the Rule adopted by the House, of excluding speakers unless they represent the government and thus express the government’s own viewpoint. While, in my view, the House could have legitimately closed the floor of its Chamber to all who sought to influence its work, defendants may not permit government lobbyists to lobby on the House floor while prohibiting private citizens and private lobbyists from doing the same. The First Amendment does not permit the government to put its thumb on the scale in this way and favor itself in the arena of political speech. With respect, I dissent.
Unlike the majority, I would not take the extraordinary step of affording defendants absolute legislative immunity, thus preventing the court from reaching the First Amendment issue. The majority does so in the name of federalism and comity, important values to be sure. But naming those values may obscure the issues involved here. This case does not implicate traditional issues of “federalism” at all, such as the limits on enumerated congressional powers, see United States v. Lopez, — U.S. —, 115 S.Ct. 1624, 131 L.Ed.2d 626 (1995), or the relative allocation of legislative power between state and federal governments, see U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton, — U.S. —, 115 S.Ct. 1842, 131 L.Ed.2d 881 (1995). Rather, this case raises thorny issues of the constitutional allocation of powers between the people and those elected to represent them, and of the appropriate role of federal courts in resolving such issues.

Facts

Rule 45 on its face does not permit any lobbyists, government or private, to be on the House floor and prohibits lobbying on the floor by anyone, private citizen15 or professional lobbyist, while the House is in session. It is that Rule which reflects the decision of the House as to the running of its affairs. Permitting government lobbyists to lobby on the floor of the House violates the House Rule.
The defendants claimed that such were not their practices. But the district court, after trial, found to the contrary and the defendants have not appealed from that factual determination. The record amply demonstrates that government lobbyists were regularly plying their trade on the floor after adoption of the House Rule which ostensibly kept them out. And, as the district court *637found, defendants “flagrantly permitted” such activities.
The Rhode Island House presents a factual setting perhaps unique in this country. Unlike many legislative bodies, including the United States Congress, most Rhode Island legislators are part-time and have neither offices nor staff. The House meets for six months or less in a year, and then only for three or four afternoons and evenings a week. Once the session starts, it rarely breaks until it is concluded. Legislators typically arrive just in time for the session and leave immediately on its conclusion. Legislators have no desks other than their desks on the floor of the Chamber. Often there is no other place but the floor for direct communication with the legislators, apart from disturbing legislators in their capacities as private citizens where they live or work.
Amendments to bills are often introduced for the first time on the floor. They are often unavailable to the public before being introduced and are available only in the House Chamber after being introduced. Frequently, especially toward the close of the session, the House votes on such an amendment on the same day, and sometimes within minutes, of the amendment being introduced.
Around the perimeter of the floor of the House Chamber are approximately eighteen chairs. Some of those chairs have been filled on a daily basis by government lobbyists since Rule 45 was enacted. The remainder are filled by members of the public. Private lobbyists are relegated to balcony seating.
Government officials sitting in the perimeter seats have and use a decided advantage in communicating with legislators and in collecting and disseminating information. Individual legislators frequently walk over to the perimeter to speak with the government lobbyists. These lobbyists send notes to legislators indicating that they would like to speak and they get the attention of individual legislators by signalling them. People seated along the perimeter of the floor receive more information than others concerning floor amendments, which are distributed to the legislators only when they are introduced. Thus, government lobbyists who are sitting on the floor can see copies of floor amendments and have the opportunity to communicate their views, including pertinent information, to the legislators. It is virtually impossible for those who are not permitted onto the floor to learn the exact language of an offered amendment because the text of floor amendments is not distributed outside of the Chamber.
Government lobbyists have actively lobbied for their positions both from the perimeter seats and from the floor itself. They have done so on bills which government officials have supported and which private groups have opposed. Those bills often concerned matters of great public debate. For example, the topic of public funding of abortion was taken up by the legislature. Agents of the Governor’s office, which supported such funding, sat on the floor and talked to legislators while the lobbyist from the Rhode Island State Right to Life Committee, Inc., which opposed such funding, was relegated to the balcony. Similarly, the Attorney General of Rhode Island introduced a bill to reinstate the death penalty and he and his staff were on the floor during debates on the bill, speaking with legislators. Private group lobbyists opposed to the bill, including those from the Rhode Island Affiliate of the American Civil Liberties Union, could only watch from the balcony and were precluded from the floor and from lobbying.
The same duality characterized the influencing of bills on welfare reform. Government lobbyists from the Department of Human Services were present for floor debates on an amendment which would restore a General Public Assistance program cut from the Governor’s budget. The Department favored elimination of the program. Lobbyists from the National Association of Social Workers (NASW), which opposed eliminating the program, were excluded. There was no break in the session between the time the amendment was introduced and it was voted upon. Similarly, in debate over an amendment to an AFDC program, lobbyists for the Department in the perimeter seats attempted to influence the vote, while a NASW lobbyist in the balcony ineffectively tried to *638convey the NASWs position by waving hands. Prison-related bills received the same treatment. Department of Corrections officials were on the floor with legislators during debate while ACLU lobbyists who opposed the Department’s position watched ineffectively from the balcony. There were numerous other instances where the Governor’s Office, the State Police, the Department of Economic Development, the Banking and Insurance Department, the Fire Marshal, the General Treasurer’s Office and the Department of Business Regulation lobbyists spoke directly with legislators on the floor regarding pending legislation.16
Nor were the advantages given to government lobbyists limited to lobbyists from state government agencies. The lobbyist for the Mayor of Providence was on the floor of the House every day, frequently conversing with legislators. She spoke with legislators on issues as varied as a proposed gun court, the Providence water supply, and funding for the city.
Lobbying by government lobbyists at times took place among the seats of the legislators, even with the knowledge of the Speaker. For example, when the House was in session, the Providence lobbyist was on a cellular telephone and walked in between the rows of the legislators’ seats, passing the telephone to certain members of the House, who listened and spoke into the telephone. The telephone was eventually passed to the Speaker, who also listened, spoke and chuckled. Only when a member of the House raised an objection did the Providence lobbyist move to the outer aisles. But she was not asked to leave the floor and was not asked to refrain from speaking to the legislators.

Immunity

I respectfully disagree with the decision of my very able colleagues to afford absolute legislative immunity to both of the defendants. Not only was the defense waived, but even if it had been properly raised, the doctrine of legislative immunity does not, in my view, foreclose a judicial determination of the constitutionality of the defendants’ practices. The challenged practices do not constitute the kind of “purely legislative activities” that have traditionally triggered the protections of the legislative immunity bar. Raising that bar in this case is not necessary to vindicate the vital interests that the doctrine was intended to safeguard, and indeed undercuts those interests.
This ease does not present the kind of exceptional circumstances that would even permit consideration of the defendants’ legislative immunity arguments, because those arguments were not raised in the district court. Cf. Eastland v. United States Servicemen’s Fund, 421 U.S. 491, 510 n. 17, 95 S.Ct. 1813, 1825 n. 17, 44 L.Ed.2d 324 (1975) (“[T]he Speech or Debate Clause has never been read so broadly that legislators are ‘absolved of the responsibility of filing a motion to dismiss.’ ” (citation omitted)); Powell v. McCormack, 395 U.S. 486, 505 n. 25, 89 S.Ct. 1944, 1956 n. 25, 23 L.Ed.2d 491 (1969). Here, the immunity doctrine — hardly an obscure legal concept — was never raised as a defense to liability, even when the distinguished trial court was solicitous about minimizing the intrusion of the litigation into the functioning of the state legislature. Defendant Harwood is himself an attorney and both defendants were ably represented in the district court. I see no reason not to hold the defendants to their waivers. See Singleton v. Wulff, 428 U.S. 106, 121, 96 S.Ct. 2868, 2877, 49 L.Ed.2d 826 (1976) (reversing court of appeals in a civil case for deciding issues not argued in the district court).
In reaching the immunity issue, the majority sets up a virtually no-lose proposition for legislators. Legislators are certainly cognizant of the public perception that raising an immunity defense is tantamount to a claim of being above the Constitution. Thus, raising a defense of legislative immunity at the outset of litigation is not without its political costs. The majority’s approach, which permits the defense to be raised after trial, virtually eliminates any incentive to raise it *639sooner. If the trial were to produce an unfavorable outcome, the legislator-defendant could simply assert immunity on appeal, claiming that the failure to raise the defense earlier had been inadvertent. Because there rarely will be direct evidence to counter such a claim of inadvertence, and because the defense of absolute legislative immunity will always present a law-based, potentially dis-positive question of constitutional magnitude, a court of appeals applying the majority’s approach would almost inevitably consider the defense, even though raised for the first time on appeal.
Moreover, to the extent that one of the rationales underlying legislative immunity is to prevent vexatious litigation against legislators, that rationale is undermined where (as here) the legislator-defendant goes through the entire trial and raises the defense only on appeal. “The purpose of the protection afforded legislators is not to forestall judicial review of legislative action but to insure that legislators are not distracted from or hindered in the performance of their legislative tasks by being called into court to defend their actions.” Powell, 395 U.S. at 505, 89 S.Ct. at 1955. Denials of legislative immunity are immediately appealable because the immunity is not simply a defense to liability but is also an immunity from suit. Helstoski v. Meanor, 442 U.S. 500, 508, 99 S.Ct. 2445, 2449, 61 L.Ed.2d 30 (1979). Appellate courts are unable to vindicate that interest where defendants wait until after trial to raise the immunity defense. See id. There thus may be a greater systemic interest in ensuring that the interest is raised early.
Much of what the immunity protects cannot be remedied here. Because the defendants never asserted a defense of immunity, the action was fully tried before the question was ever put to the district court. Legislators have already testified. Deciding the merits of the constitutional question entails no additional burden or inconvenience upon the defendants. The need to ignore the defendants’ waiver in order to reach the immunity issue is, as a result, greatly reduced.17
Even overlooking the defendants’ waiver, however, I believe that their claim of absolute legislative immunity fails. The Supreme Court’s case law demonstrates that even if a suit asserting individual rights could not be brought to challenge a legislative act per se, it is not barred by legislative immunity if it merely seeks prospective relief against a legislative employee for his role in carrying out or enforcing the directives of that same legislative act. That is precisely what the plaintiffs seek here.
There is no immunity for practices that simply relate to legislative activities. See Doe v. McMillan, 412 U.S. 306, 313, 93 S.Ct. 2018, 2025, 36 L.Ed.2d 912 (1973) (“Our cases make perfectly apparent ... that everything a [legislator] may regularly do is not a legislative act within the protection of the Speech or Debate Clause.”); United States v. Brewster, 408 U.S. 501, 515, 92 S.Ct. 2531, 2539, 33 L.Ed.2d 507 (1972) (“In no case has this Court ever treated the Clause as protecting all conduct relating to the legislative process.” (emphasis in original; footnote omitted)); Powell, 395 U.S. at 503, 89 S.Ct. at 1954 (“Legislative immunity does not, of course, bar all judicial review of legislative acts.”). Moreover, “[t]hat [legislators] generally perform certain acts in their official capacity as [legislators] does not necessarily make all such acts legislative in nature.” *640Gravel v. United States, 408 U.S. 606, 625, 92 S.Ct. 2614, 2627, 33 L.Ed.2d 583 (1972). Rather, as the majority agrees, the doctrine of legislative immunity protects “only purely legislative activities.” Brewster, 408 U.S. at 512, 92 S.Ct. at 2537; Chastain v. Sundquist, 833 F.2d 311, 314 (D.C.Cir.1987) (quoting Brewster), cert. denied, 487 U.S. 1240, 108 S.Ct. 2914, 101 L.Ed.2d 946 (1988).
The basic protection of the doctrine of legislative immunity attaches to actual “speech or debate” by legislators. Gravel, 408 U.S. at 625, 92 S.Ct. at 2627. The Supreme Court has made clear that
[ijnsofar as [legislative immunity] is construed to reach other matters, they must be an integral part of the deliberative and communicative processes by which [legislators] participate in committee and House proceedings with respect to the consideration and passage or rejection of proposed legislation or with respect to other matters [within the legislature’s constitutional jurisdiction],
Hutchinson v. Proxmire, 443 U.S. 111, 126, 99 S.Ct. 2675, 2684, 61 L.Ed.2d 411 (1979) (emphases in original) (quoting Gravel, 408 U.S. at 625, 92 S.Ct. at 2627). The majority does not dispute this definition of the scope of legislative immunity.
It is important to recognize that the plaintiffs here seek only to enjoin Rule 45’s enforcement. In my view, legislative immunity does not reach enforcement of the House Rule because such enforcement is not “an integral part of the deliberative and communicative processes” of the state legislature.
Of course, the regulation of the admission of the public to the House’s floor has an important impact on the legislative process— that is what this lawsuit is about. But it belies common usage, I believe, to say that the defendants’ practices relating to the admission or exclusion of classes of persons from the House floor constitute “an integral part of the deliberative and communicative processes” of the legislature. Certainly, such practices are not part and parcel of the legislative process in the same fashion as are the kinds of legislative acts to which the Supreme Court has previously extended legislative immunity; e.g., voting for a resolution, Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 204, 26 L.Ed. 377 (1881), making a speech on the floor, United States v. Johnson, 383 U.S. 169, 180, 86 S.Ct. 749, 755, 15 L.Ed.2d 681 (1966), circulating documents to other legislators, McMillan, 412 U.S. at 312, 93 S.Ct. at 2024, or the gathering of information for a committee hearing, Dombrowski v. Eastland, 387 U.S. 82, 84, 87 S.Ct. 1425, 1427, 18 L.Ed.2d 577 (1967) (per curiam).18 See Brewster, 408 U.S. at 516, 92 S.Ct. at 2539 (“In every case thus far before this Court, the Speech or Debate Clause has been limited to an act which was clearly a part of the legislative process.” (emphasis added)).
It is not enough, as the majority suggests, that the practice challenged here “affects” the way the legislature conducts its affairs or “colors the very conditions under which legislators” do their work. In Hutchinson v. Proxmire, the Supreme Court, in refusing to extend legislative immunity to certain statements made by a senator in a press release, acknowledged that a senator’s ability to make such statements was arguably “essential to the functioning of the Senate” and conceded that such statements affected the legislative environment. 443 U.S. at 130, 131, 99 S.Ct. at 2685, 2686 (“We may assume that a Member’s published statements exert some influence on other votes in the Congress and therefore have a relationship to the legislative and deliberative process.”). Yet, the Court concluded that no legislative immunity attached to such statements.19 In *641doing so, it observed that it had, in the past, “carefully distinguished between what is only ‘related to the due functioning of the legislative process,’ and what constitutes the legislative process entitled to immunity under the [Speech or Debate] Clause.” Id. at 131, 99 S.Ct. at 2686 (emphases added; citation omitted). Here, the defendants’ challenged practices, while perhaps “related to the due functioning of the legislative process,” simply do not “constitute[ ] the legislative process” in the sense necessary to trigger absolute legislative immunity. Cf. United States v. McDade, 28 F.3d 283, 299 (3d Cir.1994) (declining to extend legislative immunity for acts which, “although [they comprised] a necessary precondition for the performance of [legislative] acts,” could not be said to be “an integral part of Congress’s deliberative and communicative processes”), cert. denied, — U.S. —, 115 S.Ct. 1312, 131 L.Ed.2d 194 (1995).
That the defendants’ challenged practices are not “legislative” in the sense necessary to trigger immunity and that the plaintiffs’ claim for injunctive relief is not barred— most clearly as it names the House doorkeeper — is established by a venerable line of Supreme Court authority. In Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 26 L.Ed. 377 (1881), the Court found that members of the U.S. House of Representatives were entitled to legislative immunity in a lawsuit arising from an unconstitutional House resolution that had authorized the arrest of the plaintiff. However, the Court permitted the suit to go forward against the House’s Sergeant at Arms, who had merely executed the unconstitutional arrest warrant. See id. at 202. As the Supreme Court later summarized the holding of Kilboum: “That the House could with impunity order an unconstitutional arrest afforded no protection for those who made the arrest.” Gravel, 408 U.S. at 618, 92 S.Ct. at 2624. The unconstitutional “resolution was subject to judicial review,” the Court explained, “insofar as its execution impinged on a citizen’s rights.” Id.
Some ninety years after Kilbourn, in Powell v. McCormack, the Court reaffirmed the principle that a suit for injunctive relief brought against a legislative employee in an enforcement-type capacity is not barred by legislative immunity. 395 U.S. at 504-05, 89 S.Ct. at 1955-56. There, the Court held that the defendant congressmen were entitled to legislative immunity for their unconstitutional refusal to seat Adam Clayton Powell as a Member of the U.S. House of Representatives. See id. at 506, 89 S.Ct. at 1956. Applying the teaching of Kilboum, the Court went on to hold that the doctrine of legislative immunity did not bar a judicial determination of the merits of plaintiffs’ constitutional claims, to the extent that those claims were asserted against the legislative employees who had merely been responsible for enforcing the House’s resolution, namely, the Sergeant at Arms, the Clerk, and the Doorkeeper. See id. at 504-06, 89 S.Ct. at 1955-56. The Court added that those officials could not assert legislative immunity on the ground that they had simply been “acting pursuant to express orders of the House.” Id. at 504, 89 S.Ct. at 1955.20 The Court in Powell thus “reasserted judicial power to determine the validity of legislative actions impinging on individual rights” in an action for prospective relief brought against the legislative functionaries charged with implementing the allegedly unconstitutional activity. Gravel, 408 U.S. at 620, 92 S.Ct. at 2624.
The Court had applied similar reasoning in Dombrowski v. Eastland, 387 U.S. 82, 87 S.Ct. 1425, 18 L.Ed.2d 577 (1967) (per curiam), decided shortly before Powell. In that case, which arose out of an allegedly illegal raid, the Court sustained the defense of legislative immunity with respect to the Chairman of a subcommittee of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee for issuing subpoenas *642to gather information, but declined to extend immunity to the subcommittee’s counsel, who had allegedly participated in the execution of the illegal raid to obtain the same information. See id. at 84, 87 S.Ct. at 1427. Dom-browski thus supports the principle that a legislative employee sued for his role in carrying out or executing an (immunized) legislative directive may be answerable to a private citizen whose rights have been violated. See Gravel, 408 U.S. at 619-20, 92 S.Ct. at 2624-25.
More recently, in Supreme Court of Virginia v. Consumers Union of the United States, Inc., 446 U.S. 719, 100 S.Ct. 1967, 64 L.Ed.2d 641 (1980), the Supreme Court was presented with an action brought under 42 U.S.C. § 1988 asserting a First Amendment challenge against certain attorney disciplinary rules that had been enacted by the Virginia Supreme Court. The plaintiffs sought declaratory and injunctive relief, naming the Virginia Court and its Chief Justice (among others) as defendants. The Supreme Court concluded that the Virginia Court, in propounding the disciplinary rules, had acted in a legislative (not judicial) capacity. The Virginia Court was held entitled to absolute legislative immunity for acts pertaining to the enactment of the disciplinary rules, e.g., refusing to amend the rules to comport with the Constitution. See id. at 733-34,100 S.Ct. at 1975-76. The Supreme Court further observed, however, that the Virginia Court performed not only a legislative role with respect to the disciplinary rules, but also had enforcement authority. See id. at 734, 100 S.Ct. at 1975. The Court concluded that to the extent that the plaintiffs’ section 1983 action sought prospective relief against the Virginia Court in its enforcement capacity, the doctrine of legislative immunity did not bar the suit. Id. at 736, 100 S.Ct. at 1977 (“[W]e believe that the Virginia Court and its chief justice properly were held liable in their enforcement capacities.... For this reason the Virginia Court and its members were proper defendants in a suit for declaratory and injunctive relief, just as other enforcement officers and agencies were.”).
The Supreme Court’s decisions in Kilb-oum, Dombrowski Powett, and Supreme Court of Virginia establish that the doctrine of legislative immunity does not bar a judicial determination of a plaintiffs constitutional claim to the extent that the claim is one for injunctive relief and is asserted against a defendant simply for his role in enforcing a legislative directive that affects individual rights. See Gravel, 408 U.S. at 618-21, 92 S.Ct. at 2623-25. The plaintiffs’ action here — most clearly as it names the House doorkeeper — comprises precisely such a claim: the doorkeeper is being sued solely for his role in enforcing the challenged exclusion of all but government lobbyists from lobbying on the House floor, and the claim seeks only to enjoin such enforcement. The defendant doorkeeper is not distinguishable in any meaningful way from the doorkeeper whose claim of absolute legislative immunity was rejected in Powell. See Powell, 395 U.S. at 504, 89 S.Ct. at 1955. I would conclude, therefore, that the defendant doorkeeper is not entitled to assert the defense of absolute legislative immunity,21 and I would accord*643ingly proceed to a determination of the First Amendment question presented.22
Reaching the merits of plaintiffs’ constitutional claim, importantly, does no injury to the classic interests protected by the legislative immunity doctrine. The common law immunity that state legislators enjoy is “similar in origin and rationale to that accorded Congressmen under the Speech or Debate Clause.” Supreme Court of Virginia, 446 U.S. at 732, 100 S.Ct. at 1974. The actions of members of the House in speaking, debating, or voting on matters before the Rhode Island House are not being challenged. There is no infringement on the “fullest liberty of speech” of House members, nor does this case raise the need to protect House members “from the resentment of every one, however powerful, to whom the exercise of that liberty may occasion offense.” Tenney v. Brandhove, 341 U.S. 367, 373, 71 S.Ct. 783, 786, 95 L.Ed. 1019 (1951) (citation omitted).
The legislative immunity doctrine is not meant for the protection of the legislators for their own benefit, “but to support the rights of the people, by enabling their representatives to execute the functions of their office without fear of prosecutions, civil or criminal.” Id. at 373-74, 71 S.Ct. at 787 (citation omitted); see also Brewster, 408 U.S. at 507, 92 S.Ct. at 2535 (“The immunities of the Speech or Debate Clause were not written into the Constitution simply for the personal or private benefit of Members of Congress, but to protect the integrity of the legislative process by insuring the independence of individual legislators.”). Reaching the merits of the constitutional question presented here poses no threat to the independence of the Rhode Island state legislators.23
Historically, the privileges of the Speech or Debate Clause emerged from a need to protect the legislature from executive intimidation and harassment. See Robert J. Rein-stein & Harvey A. Silverglate, Legislative Privilege and the Separation of Powers, 86 Harv.L.Rev. 1113, 1120-44 (1973). Indeed, the purpose underlying the Speech or Debate Clause, that is, to enable speech critical of the government, also underlies the First Amendment’s protection of free speech. Cf. Akhil R. Amar, The Bill of Rights as a Constitution, 100 Yale L.J. 1131, 1151 (1991). It would be ironic indeed to permit the defendants to invoke those immunities to benefit communications between the executive branch (government lobbyists) and the legislative branch, to the exclusion of communication from groups of private citizens. Judicial illumination of the immunity, as James Madison said, must be guided by “the reason and the necessity of the privilege.” Letter from James Madison to Philip Doddridge (June 6, 1832), in 4 Letters and Other Writings of James Madison 221 (1884). That reason and necessity dictate that this court not credit the immunity defense on the facts of this case.

First Amendment

Is the First Amendment violated by the defendants’ practice of admitting government lobbyists onto the House floor to lobby while excluding those not employed by the government? The answer, I believe, is that the *644defendants have violated the First Amendment.
Several interrelated and fundamental First Amendment interests are offended by the defendants’ practices. The defendants have excluded the plaintiffs’ political speech and have done so in a discriminatory manner. The defendants’ practices have resulted in viewpoint- and content-based discrimination, favoring government speakers and government viewpoints and excluding non-government speakers and non-government viewpoints. The restrictions on speech posed by the practices are severe in their effects. Defendants’ discriminatory practices also permit the government unchecked power to act in its self interest, rather than in the interest of the citizens. These effects strike at the heart of the First Amendment, and subject defendants’ practices to the highest level of scrutiny, a scrutiny defendants cannot withstand.24 Those practices are not narrowly tailored to meet a compelling state interest, and therefore fail to pass constitutional muster.
The parties have framed the First Amendment issue in terms of whether the House Chamber floor is a “public forum.” But the “public forum” doctrine, itself problematic,25 is particularly ill-suited to this ease. It is peculiar to attempt to fit the doctrine to the floor of the chamber of a legislative body at work. Indeed, the very language of “public forum” masks the issues at stake.
As recognized by the district court, the approach taken by this Court in AIDS Action Committee of Massachusetts, Inc. v. Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, 42 F.3d 1 (1st Cir.1994), is more apt. This court held that where the government was the proprietor of the property it was inappropriate to analyze under the “relatively murky” public forum doctrine a discriminatory government practice affecting First Amendment rights. Id. at 9. At issue in AIDS Action Committee was the MBTA’s practice of refusing, on the grounds that its policy was not to run any sexually suggestive advertisements, to display condom advertisements in its subway and trolley cars, while it was at the same time running sexually suggestive movie advertisements. This court analyzed and rejected the government’s claim that its practices were viewpoint neutral, finding the government practice gave rise to an impermissible appearance of viewpoint discrimination. Because this viewpoint discrimination disposed of the case, there was no need for the court to determine whether the cars were a public forum. For similar reasons, I do not use conventional “public forum” terminology.
The discrimination in speech practiced by the defendant must be understood against those interests that the First Amendment has repeatedly been recognized as serving. The First Amendment reflects a distrust of the government making judgments about what speech is worthwhile, particularly where political speech is involved.26 A cen*645tral commitment of the First Amendment is that “debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open.” New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 264, 270, 84 S.Ct. 710, 721, 11 L.Ed.2d 686 (1964). “The maintenance of the opportunity for free political discussion to the end that government may he responsive to the mil of the people and that changes may be obtained by lawful means, an opportunity essential to the security of the Republic, is a fundamental principle of our constitutional system.” Stromberg v. California, 288 U.S. 359, 369, 51 S.Ct. 532, 536, 75 L.Ed. 1117 (1931) (emphasis added). “ ‘[Tjhere is practically universal agreement that a major purpose of [the First] Amendment [is] to protect the free discussion of governmental affairs’_ ‘For speech concerning public affairs is more than self-expression; it is the essence of self-government.’ ” Burson v. Freeman, 504 U.S. 191, 196, 112 S.Ct. 1846, 1850, 119 L.Ed.2d 5 (1992) (quoting Mills v. Alabama, 384 U.S. 214, 218, 86 S.Ct. 1434, 1437, 16 L.Ed.2d 484 (1966) and Garrison v. Louisiana, 379 U.S. 64, 74-75, 85 S.Ct. 209, 215-16, 13 L.Ed.2d 125 (1964)). Political expression is at the center of the rights protected by the First Amendment. See id.; Robert H. Bork, Neutral Principles and Some First Amendment Problems, 47 Ind.L.J. 1, 29 (1971); Cass R. Sunstein, Free Speech Now, 59 U.Chi.L.Rev. 255, 301 (1992).
The defendants’ practices in excluding the voice of private, but not government, lobbyists from the House floor imposes a severe burden on political speech. Lobbying aims at influencing the votes of legislators; it attempts to affect the outcome of the political processes. Such speech is “at the heart of the First Amendment’s protection.” First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, 435 U.S. 765, 776, 98 S.Ct. 1407, 1415, 55 L.Ed.2d 707 (1978). More specifically, lobbying involves the attempt by groups of citizens to have their hired representatives persuade legislators to legislate in ways that are favorable to the interests of those citizens.27 “In a representative democracy such as this, these branches of government act on behalf of the people and, to a very large extent, the whole concept of representation depends upon the ability of the people to make their wishes known to their representatives.” Eastern Railroad Presidents Conf. v. Noerr Motor Freight, Inc., 365 U.S. 127, 137, 81 S.Ct. 523, 529, 5 L.Ed.2d 464 (1961); see also Meyer v. Grant, 486 U.S. 414, 421, 108 S.Ct. 1886, 1891, 100 L.Ed.2d 425 (1988) (“[B]oth the expression of a desire for political change and a discussion of the merits of the proposed change” are “core political speech.”). Where a challenged practice, as here, imposes a severe burden on political expression, courts must review the practice with strict scrutiny. Cf. Burdick v. Takushi 504 U.S. 428, 434, 112 S.Ct. 2059, 2063, 119 L.Ed.2d 245 (1992).28
*646The private lobbyist restriction is subject to strict scrutiny not only because it severely burdens political speech, but also because it discriminates both on the basis of viewpoint and content. See Burson, 504 U.S. at 197, 112 S.Ct. at 1850. The restriction constitutes content-based discrimination because it targets a particular kind of speech. It is also viewpoint-based discrimination because it excludes a particular set of messages. The result is a speaker-based ban and a content-based bar that gives advantage to the government’s viewpoint.29 The discrimination practiced by defendants thus permits expression of the “particular message favored by the government” and stifles all other speech. See Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. v. FCC, — U.S. —, —, 114 S.Ct. 2445, 2458, 129 L.Ed.2d 497 (1994); id. at —, 114 S.Ct. at 2477 (O’Connor, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part) (“The First Amendment does more than just bar government from intentionally suppressing speech of which it disapproves. It also generally prohibits the government from excepting certain kinds of speech from regulation because it thinks the speech is especially valuable.”).
The defendants’ practices thus cannot be constitutional unless they are narrowly tailored to achieve a compelling state interest. Id. at-, 114 S.Ct. at 2467 (“[Sjpeaker-based laws demand strict scrutiny when they reflect the Government’s preference for the substance of what the favored speakers have to say (or aversion to what the disfavored speakers have to say).”); First Nat’l Bank of Boston, 435 U.S. at 785, 98 S.Ct. at 1420 (First Amendment forbids government from “dictating the subjects about which persons may speak and the speakers who may address a public issue.”). The government lobbyist preference as applied here fails that test.
The dangers of the defendants’ practices are plain.30 By simply excluding all voices save the voices of government lobbyists, the government could easily
suppress support for a minority party or an unpopular cause, or ... exclude the expression of certain points of view from the marketplace of ideas.
Members of the City Council v. Taxpayers for Vincent, 466 U.S. 789, 804, 104 S.Ct. 2118, 2128, 80 L.Ed.2d 772 (1984). These effects are “so plainly illegitimate that they would immediately invalidate the rule.” Id. “[Rhode Island] has no ... authority to license one side of [the] debate to fight freestyle, while requiring the other to follow Marquis of Queensbury Rules.” R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul, Minn., 505 U.S. 377, 392, 112 S.Ct. 2538, 2548, 120 L.Ed.2d 305 (1992).
Nor is this risk hypothetical. The Rhode Island House is singular in the lack of opportunity for private citizens to have direct, effective communications with legislators. The ability to communicate directly is a considerable advantage. The situation created by the private lobbyist ban is that akin to a monopoly over a single channel of communication, where the government has discriminated in providing access to that channel and also determined the content of what flows through the channel.
Against this panoply of dangers31 must be measured the interests attributed to the de*647fendants. The majority finds, in the immunity analysis, that there are two such interests32 and that the interests would pass a rational basis test, at least for determining whether to carve out an exception to the immunity it would grant. Without accepting the premise that the only exceptions to immunity are irrational legislative acts, neither of those interests is sufficient to withstand strict scrutiny.33 Indeed, the defendants’ bedrock argument is different again, and it, too, is insufficient.
The majority credits reasons of bolstering legislative independence and of having government lobbyists act to provide information. But legislative independence was proffered as a reason for Rule 45 on its face, which excludes all lobbyists, and not to the distinction between government and non-government lobbyists.34
Defendants argue that allowing only governmental lobbyists access to the floor of the legislature serves the goal of allowing legislators to receive valuable information. Defendants, however, have established no demonstrable interest in receiving information from the government to the exclusion of private sources. The state’s purported interest in limiting the information available to legislators to those sources controlled by its own interests is hardly a compelling one.35 “A *648State’s claim that it is enhancing the ability of its citizenry to make wise decisions by restricting the flow of information to them must be viewed with some skepticism.... ‘[I]t is often true that the best means to that end is to open the channels of communication rather than to close them.’” Anderson v. Celebrezze, 460 U.S. 780, 798, 103 S.Ct. 1564, 1575, 75 L.Ed.2d 547 (1983) (quoting Virginia Pharmacy Board v. Virginia Citizens Consumer Council, 425 U.S. 748, 770, 96 S.Ct. 1817, 1829, 48 L.Ed.2d 346 (1976)).
Further, the private lobbyist restriction is not narrowly tailored to serve the legislature’s asserted interest in receiving information. Simon & Schuster, Inc. v. Members of the New York State Crime Victims Bd., 502 U.S. 105, 122 n. **, 112 S.Ct. 501, 511 n. **, 116 L.Ed.2d 476 (1991). In this case the restriction excludes valuable information from the legislative purview. As the majority points out, lobbying groups have vastly different interests and perspectives. Access to such varied and independent sources of information, far from impeding the legislature’s access to useful information, surely functions to increase both the quality and the quantity of the total set of information available.
The provision of information from executive branch agencies to members of the legislature is a very legitimate interest of government. The majority suggests there is a distinction between mere information providing and lobbying, but that distinction is contradicted by the record. The factual findings of the district court leave no doubt that the court considered the contention that government lobbyists were engaging in mere “information-providing” and rejected it as a factual matter.
Even if the distinction were tenable on the facts here, as it is not, it does not provide refuge from the First Amendment. There is plainly value to the speech by government lobbyists, whether it be heavy-handed lobbying or more lightly dexterous provision of information. See Block v. Meese, 793 F.2d 1303, 1312-14 (D.C.Cir.) (Scalia, J.), cert. denied, 478 U.S. 1021, 106 S.Ct. 3335, 92 L.Ed.2d 740 (1986). But the value of government speech is not the point. Rather, the point is that the government has permitted itself to speak while prohibiting non-government speech.
Speech from non-government speakers, including lobbyists, is also valuable. Indeed, while lobbying may be subject to registration and disclosure,36 no ease has ever suggested that lobbying, including its information-gathering and providing component, could be banned entirely. But that issue need not be reached here, for what is clear is that the government must keep the playing field level.37
Moreover, even if there were greater reason to credit the distinction between “information providing” and “lobbying,” First Amendment “due process” type issues would still preclude reliance on the distinction to justify the restriction of First Amendment rights. See Henry P. Monaghan, First Amendment “Due Process”, 83 Harv.L.Rev. 518, 519 (1970) (“If the Constitution requires elaborate procedural safeguards in the obscenity area, a fortiori it should require *649equivalent procedural protection when the speech involved — for example, political speech — implicates more central first amendment concerns.”)- Even if there were a discernible distinction, the “difference between factual statement and advocacy may turn upon the debatability of the facts described as true, or the pertinency of facts omitted.” Block, 793 F.2d at 1313. The distinction between providing information and acting for the purpose of “influencing in any manner the passage of legislation” is exceedingly fine. Here, legislators testified that “information” provided did in fact influence them on how to vote. The House has recognized that information may influence votes. Rule 45 on its face provides that “no person ... shall either directly or indirectly ” engage in the practice of lobbying. The House has thus drawn the line to preclude any activity, even indirect, to influence votes. The First Amendment puts the burden on the government to finely tailor its practices to permissible goals, and no such fine tailoring was done by defendants’ practices here. See Rubin v. Coors Brewing Co., — U.S. —, —, 115 S.Ct. 1585, 1593, 131 L.Ed.2d 532 (1995).
The real argument that the defendants have articulated to justify their actions is their claim that government lobbyists represent the people while non-government lobbyists do not. Accordingly, they say, there is no cause to worry. That is an inversion of constitutional values. While there may be value to the government voice, it cannot be the only voice. To permit that to be so would be to stifle discussion. See Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1, 14, 96 S.Ct. 612, 632, 46 L.Ed.2d 659 (1976) (“Discussion of public issues ... [is] integral to the operation of the system of government established by our Constitution. The First Amendment affords the broadest protection to such political expression in order ‘to assure [the] unfettered interchange of ideas for the bringing about of political and social changes desired by the people.’ ” (citing Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476, 77 S.Ct. 1304, 1 L.Ed.2d 1498 (1957))).
There is another danger, and that is that the government’s voice will not truly represent the interests of the public.38 Government should theoretically represent the people and not represent itself. Theory and reality often depart. The government is not always a mirror of the people. Government employees today are recognized as constituting their own interest group. See E. Nord-linger, On the Autonomy of the Democratic State (1981).
The Framers had a fear that, once in power, legislators had an obvious incentive to use “that power to perpetuate themselves or their ilk in office.” U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton, — U.S. —, —, 115 S.Ct. 1842, 1911-12, 131 L.Ed.2d 881 (1995) (Thomas, J., dissenting) (pointing out numerous instances of modern day legislation and rulemaking that produce the effect of perpetuating incumbents in office). The Framers recognized this would happen and intended the First Amendment to act as a check. James Madison identified the problem of government acting in its self-interest, in contrast to the interests of those it purported to represent, as one of the two fundamental problems of the republican form of government.39 “It is of great importance in a re*650public not only to guard the society against the oppression of the rulers, but to guard one part of society against the injustice of the other part.” The Federalist No. 51, at 161 (James Madison) (Roy P. Fairfield 2d ed. 1981) (emphasis added). Madison feared that government might choose to serve itself instead of the citizens, saying:
In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.
Id. at 160; see also Amar, The Bill of Rights, supra, at 1132-33. Central among those “auxiliary precautions” in obliging the government to control itself from self-interest and self-dealing are the protections afforded to citizens by the First Amendment. Defendants’ actions violate this essential purpose of the First Amendment.
Accordingly, I would affirm the declaration by the district court that the practices of the defendants are unconstitutional.40 In my view, the defendants must either adhere to the House Rule and exclude all from its floor who speak to influence its vote or the House must equally open its floor, and not prefer the government’s voice. That choice belongs to the House. Under the Constitution, the choice of preferring the government voice and excluding the non-government voices does not.

. Under the terms of Rule 45, certain government officials including the Governor, the Secretary of State, and the Attorney General have access to the floor. The Rule nonetheless prohibits anyone from lobbying.

. The ability of government employees to sit in the few perimeter seats may have been used to advance their personal interests as well. For example, during debates on incentive pay for court clerks, two court clerks sat in the aisle seats.

. Even if one could overlook defendants' waiver, we could not reach the immunity issue absent a showing of plain error by the district court. Cf. United States v. Olano, — U.S. —, —, 113 S.Ct. 1770, 1776-78, 123 L.Ed.2d 508 (1993); United States v. Saccoccia, 58 F.3d 754, 790 (1st Cir.1995). Plain error analysis does apply in the civil context. See, e.g., Consolo v. George, 58 F.3d 791, 793 (1st Cir.1995) (jury instructions to which no objection lodged subject only to plain error review); Lewis v. Kendrick, 944 F.2d 949, 953 (1st Cir.1991) (district court's failure to grant qualified immunity reviewable only for plain error where defense was not timely raised); Javelin Investment, S.A. v. Municipality of Ponce, 645 F.2d 92, 94-95 (1st Cir.1981) (same, for a sufficiency-of-evidence claim). Whatever difference of opinion the question of legislative immunity might allow, the district court's "failure" to afford such immunity to defendants sua sponte was not clearly in error, and certainly did not produce a gross miscarriage of justice or seriously affect the fairness, integrity or public reputation of the judicial proceedings. See Olano, — U.S. at —, 113 S.Ct. at 1779. There was no plain error.

. An action challenging any of these immunized activities would have required proof, as this case does not, of the substance of a legislator’s act— e.g., how the legislator voted, or the content of a speech or the content of communications to other legislators. See Gravel, 408 U.S. at 618-21, 92 S.Ct. at 2623-25 (drawing this distinction); see also Brewster, 408 U.S. at 526, 92 S.Ct. at 2544 (holding that act of bribery was not immune from prosecution if government did not need to prove "how [defendant] spoke, how he debated, how he voted, or anything he did in the chamber or in committee”).

. Similarly, in Bond v. Floyd, 385 U.S. 116, 87 S.Ct. 339, 17 L.Ed.2d 235 (1966), the Supreme Court allowed a suit to go forward challenging on First Amendment grounds the constitutionality of certain legislative resolutions preventing the seating of Julian Bond in the Georgia legislature *641that had been passed in response to political statements by Bond that had apparently displeased his fellow legislators.

. I respectfully disagree, therefore, with the majority's suggestion that the legislative immunity doctrine protects any legislative officials "who do no more than carry out the will of the body by enforcing [Rule 45] as a part of their official duties." To the extent that the decision in Consumers Union of United States, Inc. v. Periodical Correspondents’ Ass'n, 515 F.2d 1341 (D.C.Cir.1975), can be read for a contrary proposition, I would decline to follow it.

. Moreover, the defendants’ actions in restricting access to the floor and lobbying can be viewed as administrative (rather than legislative) in nature, and thus not entitled to immunity on that additional ground. Because immunity is defined by the functions it serves, Forrester v. White, 484 U.S. 219, 227, 108 S.Ct. 538, 544, 98 L.Ed.2d 555 (1988), even legislators themselves are not immune for actions taken in an administrative capacity. In Forrester, a state court judge enjoyed no judicial immunity for the administrative acts of demoting and dismissing a probation officer. Even though the acts "may have been quite important in providing the necessaty conditions of a sound adjudicative system," the decisions underlying the acts were generic in nature, not intrinsically adjudicative or peculiar to the judicial function. See id. at 229, 108 S.Ct. at 545. A “judge who hires or fires a probation officer [could not] meaningfully be distinguished from a district attorney who hires and fires assistant district attorneys, or indeed from any other Executive Branch official who is responsible for making such employment decisions.” Id.; see also Negron-Gaztambide v. Hernandez-Torres, 35 F.3d 25, 28 (1st Cir.1994) (legislators not protected by legislative immunity for administrative act of dismissing librarian), cert. denied, — U.S. —, 115 S.Ct. 1098, 130 L.Ed.2d 1066 (1995).
Under this functional analysis, the defendant doorkeeper’s acts in determining whether particular individuals were authorized to enter the House chamber are of an “administrative” nature within the meaning of Negron-Gaztambide. See id. These acts constitute determinations con-*643ceraing admission and exclusion, no different in nature than those that might be made by an official in the executive branch entrusted with controlling access to a Governor's press conference or, indeed, a doorkeeper standing outside a privately-owned building. The doorkeeper's acts do not entail any peculiarly legislative decision-making — in this case, those decisions were already embodied in the House's adoption of Rule 45. The acts of the doorkeeper in administering Rule 45 to particular persons seeking access to the House chamber are thus not legislative, but administrative and not entitled to absolute immunity.

. As far as the record shows, the defendant Speaker did not participate in the exclusion of private lobbyists from the legislative floor. There is no need to decide, at this time, whether, if the Speaker did participate in other aspects of Rule 45's enforcement, he would be entitled to legislative immunity in an action brought against him solely for his role in such enforcement. Relief against the doorkeeper's enforcement of the Rule may provide plaintiffs with all the relief necessary.

. Davids v. Akers, 549 F.2d 120 (9th Cir.1977), does not support the proposition that the defendants' practices are immune from constitutional scrutiny. The court there in fact reached the merits and scrutinized the plaintiffs’ First Amendment claims, but found them wanting.

. There are additional reasons to apply heightened scrutiny. In footnote 4 of United States v. Carotene Products Co., 304 U.S. 144, 152, 58 S.Ct. 778, 784, 82 L.Ed. 1234 (1938), oft-quoted for other language, the Court noted the possibility that:
legislation which restricts those political processes which can ordinarily be expected to bring about repeal of undesirable legislation [might] be subjected to more exacting judicial scrutiny under the general prohibitions of the Fourteenth Amendment than are most other types of legislation.
The defendants' practices are analogous to just such restrictive legislation. See John H. Ely, Democracy and Distrust 76-77 (1980).

. At best, the public forum doctrine is an “analytical shorthand for the principles that have guided the Court’s decisions.” Cornelius v. NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc., 473 U.S. 788, 820, 105 S.Ct. 3439, 3458, 87 L.Ed.2d 567 (Blackmun, J., dissenting). "Beyond confusing the issues, an excessive focus on the public character of some forums, coupled with inadequate attention to the precise details of the restrictions on expression, can leave speech inadequately protected in some cases, while unduly hampering state and local authorities in others.” Laurence H. Tribe, American Constitutional Law 992-93 (2d ed. 1988) (footnotes omitted); see also Daniel A. Farber & John E. Nowak, The Misleading Nature of Public Forum Analysis: Content and Context in First Amendment Adjudication, 70 Va.L.Rev. 1219 (1984).

."An insistence that government’s burden is greatest for regulating political speech is based on a sensible view of government’s incentives. It is in this setting that government is most likely to be biased or to be acting on the basis of illegitimate, venal, or partial considerations. Government is rightly distrusted when it is regulating *645speech that might harm its own interests; and when the speech at issue is political, its own interests are almost always at stake. It follows that the premise of distrust of government is strongest when politics is at issue. And when the premise of distrust is strongest, the burden of justification is highest.” Cass R. Sunstein, Democracy and the Problem of Free Speech 134 (1993).

. Lobbying may be protected not only as speech, but also as an exercise of the right to petition. That right, explicitly embodied in the First Amendment, encompasses the right of citizens to communicate with their legislative representatives. See Eastern Railroad Presidents Conf. v. Noerr Motor Freight, Inc., 365 U.S. 127, 137, 81 S.Ct. 523, 529, 5 L.Ed.2d 464 (1961) (stating that the right of petition protects "the ability of the people to make their wishes known to their representatives”). As lobbying constitutes an important means by which citizens can collectively make their wishes known to the legislature, lobbying itself may fall under the coverage of the Petition Clause. See id. at 137-38, 81 S.Ct. at 529-30; United States v. Nofziger, 878 F.2d 442, 453 (D.C.Cir.) (reading Supreme Court precedents for the proposition that lobbying, "insofar as it constitutes self-representation,” is protected by the First Amendment right to petition), cert. denied, 493 U.S. 1003, 110 S.Ct. 564, 107 L.Ed.2d 559 (1989); see generally Amar, Bill of Rights, supra, at 1155-56 (suggesting that part of the purpose of the Petition Clause was to guarantee that citizens would have a means of informing representatives of their needs and concerns).

. Lobbying is not subject to a lower standard of protection even if the hired representatives do it for a profit. See Board of Trustees of the State Univ. of N.Y. v. Fox, 492 U.S. 469, 482, 109 S.Ct. 3028, 3035, 106 L.Ed.2d 388 (1989).

. That the non-governmental viewpoint may in fact be an entire class of varying viewpoints does not make the restriction any the less viewpoint discrimination. See Rosenberger v. Rector and Visitors of the Univ. of Va., — U.S. —, —, 115 S.Ct. 2510, 2518, 132 L.Ed.2d 700 (1995) (rejecting argument that "no viewpoint discrimination occurs because the [challenged rules] discriminate against an entire class of viewpoints”, and saying that the "declaration that debate is not skewed so long as multiple voices are silenced is simply wrong”).

. In the franchise cases, corollary concerns about the representative nature of government led the Supreme Court to invalidate laws which resulted in groups of persons being frozen out of the decision process. Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533, 84 S.Ct. 1362, 12 L.Ed.2d 506 (1964); Harper v. Virginia Bd. of Elections, 383 U.S. 663, 86 S.Ct. 1079, 16 L.Ed.2d 169 (1966); Carrington v. Rash, 380 U.S. 89, 85 S.Ct. 775, 13 L.Ed.2d 675 (1965) (invalidating Texas statute denying franchise to those in military who moved into the state where Texas attempted to justify the statute by arguing military personnel might otherwise start influencing elections).

.Defendants' argument poses yet other dangers too. If the legislature gets information from nowhere but the executive branch, the legislature’s ability to act independently, and thus to be a check and balance to the executive is undercut. This corollary danger of the undercutting of the *647separation of powers at the state level is keenly illustrated by the amicus brief filed by the executive branch, urging strongly its interest in communicating with the legislature and supporting the exclusion of private voices.

. To the extent that the House Rule on its face was justified as an effort to maintain decorum and control noise to a level which did not interfere with the members' work, the record shows instances in which government lobbyists on the floor were objected to by members as causing problems. The defendants accordingly do not try to justify their discriminatory distinction on such grounds.

. Defendants' practice does not even meet the less rigorous test of intermediate scrutiny. Intermediate scrutiny of restrictions has traditionally been applied to commercial speech that concerns unlawful activity or is misleading, see Florida Bar v. Went For It, Inc., — U.S. —, —, 115 S.Ct. 2371, 2375, 132 L.Ed.2d 541 (1995), and to content-neutral restrictions that impose an incidental burden on speech, see Turner Broadcasting, -U.S. at-, 114 S.Ct. at 2469. The test has three related prongs: first, the government must assert a substantial interest in support of the regulation; second, the government must demonstrate that the restriction directly and materially advances that interest; and third, the regulation must be "narrowly drawn.” Florida Bar, — U.S. at —, 115 S.Ct. at 2376. The government's asserted interest in having government lobbyists on the floor of the House, to the exclusion of private lobbyists, is to have them provide information. But the government has not shown why the interest in having only government provide information, and not private groups, is "substantial.” Relatedly, the restriction is not “narrowly tailored” to meet the information provision goal because it is overbroad and serves to exclude valuable information that private lobbyists might provide.

. A goal of legislative independence is quite legitimate. But the interest distinctively served by the private lobbyist restriction is to display to the public the legislature’s special hostility towards the private interest groups that attempt to influence their votes. "The politicians of [Rhode Island] are entitled to express that hostility — but not through the means of imposing unique limitations upon speakers who (however henightedly) disagree.” R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 396, 112 S.Ct. at 2550. "The point of the First Amendment is that majority preferences must be expressed in some fashion other than silencing speech on the basis of its content.” Id. at 392, 112 S.Ct. at 2548. "[T]he First Amendment as we understand it today rests on the premise that it is government power, rather than private power, that is the main threat to free expression; and as a consequence, the Amendment imposes substantial limitations on the Government even when it is trying to serve concededly praiseworthy goals.” Turner Broadcasting,-U.S. at-, 114 S.Ct. at 2480 (O'Connor, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part).

.Defendants attempt to liken their private lobbying restriction to the restrictions on lobbying imposed by Rule XXXII of the United States House of Representatives. Defendants' analogy, however, works against them and demonstrates that there is no “compelling” need to give government lobbyists access to the floor to lobby while excluding others. Unlike the defendants’ practices, the U.S. House of Representatives Rule does not allow government lobbyists to lobby while excluding private lobbyists. Rule XXXII is neutral and excludes all lobbyists. Even those normally afforded the courtesy of admission to the floor — former Members of the House, former Parliamentarians, former elected officers, and former elected minority employees of the House — are denied admission if they or their organizations have any interest in matters before the House. Similarly, staff of a Member are not allowed to lobby on the occasions they are admitted to the House. That the United States House of Representatives has chosen neutrality and not *648to grant preference to the government lobbyists and information providers (if there is any distinction) undercuts any argument by defendants that they have a compelling need to give preference to the government.

. This case does not involve any issue of government subsidy, creation of a government program, or of the taxable status of organizations involved in lobbying. Cf. Regan v. Taxation With Representation, 461 U.S. 540, 103 S.Ct. 1997, 76 L.Ed.2d 129 (1983).

. It is recognized in the political science literature that much of what modem day lobbyists do involves the gathering and provision of information to legislators. Cf. Edward O. Laumann et al., Washington Lawyers and Others: The Structure of Washington Representation, 37 Stan. L.Rev. 465, 495 (1985); James Q. Wilson, Political Organizations xix-xx (1995); Jeffrey S. Banks & Bariy R. Weingast, The Political Control of Bureaucracies under Asymmetric Information, 36 Am.J.Pol.Sci. 509 (1992). Political scientists have found that lobbyists’ primary strategy in influencing legislators is to provide information to counteract the similar efforts of other groups, not to achieve influence through pressure tactics. See David Austen-Smith & John R. Wright, Counteractive Lobbying, 38 Am.J.Pol.Sci. 25 (1994).

. Defendants express a legitimate concern that government may be captured by "special interests.” Apart from the fact that the government itself is frequently its own special interest group, the solution to the problem of a government captured by “special interests” would hardly be to have the government speak only to itself.
Moreover, many of the plaintiff groups may hardly be characterized as the centers of wealth, power and privilege. Citizens, who themselves may not be affluent or powerful, band together in groups to lobby the government, whether the groups be, to give but two examples, the Rhode Island State Right To Life Committee, Inc., or the local chapter of the ACLU. These groups may be thought to be a way to avoid the capturing of government by "special interests.” Defendants’ practices may thus thrust them headlong into the dangers they profess to wish to avoid. Central to effecting a system of democratic self-governance is enabling private interests to be able to act in concert. Without collective action it may be impossible to alter the status quo. See Sunstein, Democracy and the Problem of Free Speech, supra, at 245-46.

. In a seminal immunity case, Justice Black recognized:
Unfortunately, it is true that legislative assemblies, bom to defend the liberty of the people, have at times violated their sacred trusts and become the instruments of oppression....
*650Those who cherish freedom [under the First Amendment] here would do well to remember that this freedom cannot long survive the legislative snuffing out of freedom ... to speak.
Tenney v. Brandhove, 341 U.S. 367, 380-81, 71 S.Ct. 783, 790-91, 95 L.Ed. 1019 (1951) (Black, J., concurring).
Justice Black echoed concerns voiced earlier by one of the Framers of the Constitution and advocates for adoption of the Bill of Rights: "No legislative act, therefore, Contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm ... that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves.” The Federalist No. 78, at 228 (Alexander Hamilton) (Roy P. Fairfield 2d ed. 1981) (reply to "Brutus”).

. The injunction entered by the District Court against the House, which was not a party to the suit, was in error.