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[Until this opinion appears in the Ohio Official Reports advance sheets, it may be cited as State
v. Weber, Slip Opinion No. 2020-Ohio-6832.]

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                          SLIP OPINION NO. 2020-OHIO-6832
              THE STATE OF OHIO, APPELLEE, v. WEBER, APPELLANT.
  [Until this opinion appears in the Ohio Official Reports advance sheets, it
       may be cited as State v. Weber, Slip Opinion No. 2020-Ohio-6832.]
Criminal law—Second Amendment—R.C. 2923.15, which prohibits a person from
        carrying or using a firearm while under the influence of alcohol or a drug
        of abuse, is not unconstitutional as applied to an intoxicated person
        carrying a firearm in his or her home.
 (No. 2019-0544—Submitted February 25, 2020—Decided December 23, 2020.)
              APPEAL from the Court of Appeals for Clermont County,
                         No. CA2018-06-040, 2019-Ohio-0916.
                                   __________________
        O’CONNOR, C.J.
        {¶ 1} It has been illegal to carry a firearm while intoxicated in Ohio since
1974. R.C. 2923.15, Am.Sub.H.B. No. 511, 134 Ohio Laws 1866, 1968 (effective
January 1, 1974). This case presents the question whether the right to bear arms
contained in the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution includes the
right to carry a firearm while intoxicated, making Ohio’s statute unconstitutional.
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We hold that it does not. We therefore affirm the judgment of the Twelfth District
Court of Appeals.
                               I. BACKGROUND
       {¶ 2} At 4:00 a.m. on February 17, 2018, appellant, Frederick Weber, was
very intoxicated and holding a shotgun. His wife called 9-1-1. Deputy Christopher
Shouse and Sergeant Mark Jarman were dispatched to Weber’s house. When they
arrived, Weber’s wife told them, “Everything is okay, he put it away.” But when
Shouse stepped inside the house, he encountered Weber still holding the shotgun
by the stock with one hand. Shouse ordered him to drop the gun. Shouse also heard
Weber say, in slurred speech, that the firearm was not loaded.
       {¶ 3} Shouse attempted to assess Weber’s sobriety by performing a field
sobriety test, but Weber could not complete the test because he was unable to follow
Shouse’s directions. Shouse also noticed the smell of alcohol on Weber, and Weber
admitted several times that he was drunk. According to Shouse, Weber was “very
intoxicated.” When Shouse asked Weber why he had the shotgun, Weber seemed
confused and could not give a definitive answer. Shouse picked the shotgun up and
determined that it was unloaded. Weber later claimed that he was unloading the
shotgun to wipe it down.
       {¶ 4} Jarman observed that Weber’s speech was slurred and his eyes were
glassy and bloodshot. Weber was also unstable on his feet. According to Jarman,
“he was actually swaying while [Shouse] had him in the instruction position.”
Jarman described Weber as “[v]ery impaired” and “highly intoxicated.”
       {¶ 5} Weber was charged with violating R.C. 2923.15(A), which provides
that “[n]o person, while under the influence of alcohol or any drug of abuse, shall
carry or use any firearm or dangerous ordnance.” A violation of this provision is a
first-degree misdemeanor. R.C. 2923.15(B). After a bench trial, Weber was found
guilty and sentenced to ten days in jail, with all ten days suspended. He was also
placed on community control for one year, ordered to complete eight hours of

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community service, and fined $100. The Twelfth District Court of Appeals
affirmed his conviction.
       {¶ 6} Weber raised four propositions of law in a discretionary appeal to this
court. We accepted three for review. See 156 Ohio St.3d 1452, 2019-Ohio-2780,
125 N.E.3d 941.

               Proposition 1: “The using a weapon while intoxicated statute
       is unconstitutional as applied to the facts of this case.”
               Proposition 2: “Where a challenge is made that a statute
       unconstitutionally impinges on the fundamental right to bear arms,
       review is undertaken employing a strict scrutiny standard.”
               Proposition 3: “Under any of the standards of scrutiny
       applied to enumerated constitutional rights, a prohibition of having
       firearms while intoxicated in the home—where [the need for]
       defense of self, family and property is most acute—fails [to pass]
       constitutional muster.”

In all three propositions, Weber argues that R.C. 2923.15 violates the Second
Amendment to the United States Constitution as applied to the facts of this case.
                            II. APPLICABLE LAW
       {¶ 7} The constitutionality of a statute is a question of law that we consider
de novo. See Cleveland v. State, 157 Ohio St.3d 330, 2019-Ohio-3820, 136 N.E.3d
466, ¶ 15.
                        A. District of Columbia v. Heller
       {¶ 8} The Second Amendment provides that “[a] well regulated Militia,
being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and
bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” The United States Supreme Court held in
District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637

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(2008), that the Second Amendment protects a person’s right to possess and carry
weapons for self-defense. But the court did not hold in Heller that every regulation
impairing the possession or carrying of weapons in some way is automatically
unconstitutional. Heller makes it clear that “[l]ike most rights, the right secured by
the Second Amendment is not unlimited. From Blackstone through the 19th-
century cases, commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was not
a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for
whatever purpose.” Id. at 626.
       {¶ 9} The Supreme Court emphasized that “nothing in [the opinion] should
be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms
by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in
sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing
conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.” Id. at 626-627. The
court also made clear that it does not “suggest the invalidity of laws regulating the
storage of firearms to prevent accidents.” Id. at 632. And the court recognized
“another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms,” id. at 627: the
Second Amendment protects only the sort of weapons in common use at the time
of the Amendment and only when such a weapon is used “for lawful purposes like
self-defense,” id. at 626.
       {¶ 10} After this discussion of the Second Amendment, the court turned to
the statute at issue in the case. The District of Columbia had generally prohibited
the possession of handguns and required even lawfully owned firearms, such as
registered long guns, to be “unloaded and dissembled or bound by a trigger lock or
similar device” unless they were located in a place of business or were being used
for lawful recreational activities, former D.C.Code 7-2507.02, 23 D.C.Reg. 2464
(Sept. 24, 1976). The majority observed that the law “totally ban[ned] handgun
possession in the home” and required any lawful firearm in the home to be rendered
inoperable. Heller at 628. The law therefore barred “ ‘the most preferred firearm

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in the nation’ ” from being used in self-defense of “ ‘one’s home and family.’ ” Id.
at 628-629, quoting Parker v. District of Columbia, 478 F.3d 370, 400
(D.C.Cir.2007). Such a “severe restriction,” id. at 629, the court held, violated the
Second Amendment “[u]nder any of the standards of scrutiny that we have applied
to enumerated constitutional rights,” id.
       {¶ 11} The majority also acknowledged that because the case represented
the Supreme Court’s “first in-depth examination of the Second Amendment, one
should not expect it to clarify the entire field.” Heller, 554 U.S. at 635, 128 S.Ct.
2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637. The decision therefore did not conclusively determine
“applications of the right” to other regulations or provide “extensive historical
justification for those regulations of the right that [it] describe[d] as permissible.”
Id.
       {¶ 12} Subsequently, the court held that the Second Amendment right
recognized in Heller is applicable to the states. McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S.
742, 791, 130 S.Ct. 3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894 (2010).
                 B. Cases since Heller: the two-step framework
       {¶ 13} After Heller was decided, one of the main tasks for courts presented
with Second Amendment challenges to firearm regulations was deciding which
analytical framework to use. Over the past 12 years, courts have converged on a
two-step framework to decide Second Amendment cases. Kolbe v. Hogan, 849
F.3d 114, 132-133 (4th Cir.2017) (en banc) (identifying decisions from the Second,
Third, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Ninth, Tenth, Eleventh, and D.C. Circuits
applying the two-step approach); Gould v. Morgan, 907 F.3d 659, 669 (1st
Cir.2018) (adopting the two-step approach after Kolbe was decided).
       {¶ 14} In the first step of the framework, courts ask whether “ ‘the
challenged statute “regulates activity falling outside the scope of the Second
Amendment right as it was understood at the relevant historical moment,” ’ ”
namely, the ratification of the Bill of Rights in 1791 or of the Fourteenth

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Amendment in 1868. Stimmel v. Sessions, 879 F.3d 198, 204 (6th Cir.2018),
quoting United States v. Greeno, 679 F.3d 510, 518 (6th Cir.2012), quoting Ezell
v. Chicago, 651 F.3d 684, 702-703 (7th Cir.2011). If the regulation falls outside
the scope of the Second Amendment, the “inquiry is complete,” and the law cannot
be determined to violate that Amendment. United States v. Marzzarella, 614 F.3d
85, 89 (3d Cir.2010); accord Stimmel, 879 F.3d at 204.
         {¶ 15} If the reviewing court moves on to the second step, it should
“determine and apply the appropriate level of heightened means-end scrutiny”
based on whether and how severely a particular law burdens the core Second
Amendment right.1 Stimmel, 879 F.3d at 204; see also Natl. Rifle Assn. of Am., Inc.
v. Bur. of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, & Explosives, 700 F.3d 185 (5th Cir.2012)
(“In harmony with well-developed principles that have guided our interpretation of
the First Amendment, we believe that a law impinging upon the Second
Amendment right must be reviewed under a properly tuned level of scrutiny—i.e.,
a level that is proportionate to the severity of the burden that the law imposes on
the right”).
         {¶ 16} If the challenged law does not severely burden the core of the Second
Amendment’s protections, the court should apply intermediate scrutiny. See United
States v. Chester, 628 F.3d 673, 680-683 (4th Cir.2010). Or, as the Sixth Circuit
has put it, “in choosing to apply intermediate scrutiny, we are ‘informed by “(1)
‘how close the law comes to the core of the Second Amendment right,’ and (2) ‘the
severity of the law’s burden on the right.’ ” ’ ” Stimmel, 879 F.3d at 206, quoting
Tyler v. Hillsdale Cty. Sheriff’s Dept., 837 F.3d 678, 690 (6th Cir.2016) (lead
opinion), quoting United States v. Chovan, 735 F.3d 1127, 1138 (9th Cir.2013),
quoting Ezell at 703. Under intermediate scrutiny, the statute is constitutional so

1. Although the Heller court stated that the regulation at issue was unconstitutional under any
standard, it specifically rejected the possible application of rational-basis scrutiny. Heller, 554 U.S.
at 628, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637, fn. 27.

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long as it furthers an important governmental interest and does so by means that are
substantially related to that interest. Chester, 628 F.3d at 683. E.g., United States
v. Yancey, 621 F.3d 681 (7th Cir.2010) (upholding 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(3), which
prohibits possession of a firearm by a person who is “an unlawful user of or
addicted to any controlled substance,” under intermediate scrutiny because “ample”
evidence showed “the connection between drug use and violent crime,” Yancey at
686, and the statute was “substantially related” to the “important governmental
interest in preventing violent crime,” id. at 687).
       {¶ 17} If, however, a statute imposes a severe burden on the core of the
Second Amendment right, the court should apply strict scrutiny. See Marzzarella,
614 F.3d at 96-97. Under strict scrutiny, the statute is constitutional if it furthers a
compelling governmental interest and the state’s chosen means are narrowly
tailored to advance that interest. Fed. Election Comm. v. Wisconsin Right to Life,
Inc., 551 U.S. 449, 464, 127 S.Ct. 2652, 168 L.Ed.2d 329 (2007).                   E.g.,
Marzzarella, 614 F.3d at 100-101 (upholding a federal law prohibiting possession
of a firearm with an obliterated serial number under strict scrutiny because the law
furthered a compelling governmental interest by assisting law enforcement in the
investigation of crimes and the law was narrowly tailored to achieve that objective,
because it applied only to weapons made less susceptible to tracing).
                                  III. ANALYSIS
A. The appropriate test for challenges to firearm regulations under the Second
                                     Amendment
       {¶ 18} In his initial brief, Weber argues that this court should judge the
constitutionality of R.C. 2923.15 using the strict-scrutiny test. In his reply brief,
however, Weber argues for a different standard of review: that “absent some legal
disqualification (and [being] drunk in your home is not one), the right to have arms
in your home is absolute.” Appellee, the state of Ohio, urges this court to apply the
two-step framework described above.

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         {¶ 19} We believe that the two-step framework provides the appropriate test
for Second Amendment challenges to firearm regulations, and we therefore apply
it.2 The two-step framework also leaves room for us to consider Weber’s arguments
that strict scrutiny should be applied to his claim and that intoxication is not a “legal
disqualification” from the protections of the Second Amendment.
     B. The constitutionality of R.C. 2923.15 under the Second Amendment
1. Step one: does R.C. 2923.15 place a burden on activity within the scope of the
                                      Second Amendment?
         {¶ 20} The state argues that R.C. 2923.15 does not place a burden on
activity within the scope of the Second Amendment. In support, the state and its
amici curiae cities of Columbus, Cincinnati, Akron, Dayton, Lima, and Toledo cite
a number of historical statutes regulating the clear dangers presented by firearms
and alcohol. For example, they point to a law from 1677 that imposed a fine on
anyone that “shoot[s] any guns at drinking.” Act of March 10, 1655, 1655 Va.Laws
401. They point to laws from four states passed within years of the ratification of
the Fourteenth Amendment that criminalized carrying a gun while drunk. See 1868
Kan.Sess.Laws 378; 1883 Mo.Laws 76; 1883 Wis.Sess.Laws, volume 1, 290; 1909
Idaho Sess.Laws 6, Section 1. They also point to state laws designed to prevent
intoxicated people from obtaining guns in the first place by making the sale of guns
to an intoxicated person illegal. See 1878 Miss.Laws 175-176; 1911 Del.Laws 28,
Section 3. Overall, the state and its amici curiae cities argue that these laws show
that carrying or using a firearm while intoxicated is not a protected activity and
does not fall within the original understanding of the right to bear arms.

2. The opinion concurring in judgment only asserts that a majority of this court adopts the originalist
approach it takes in this case, and therefore, it is the approach to be taken by Ohio courts in Second
Amendment cases going forward. That is not correct. The two-step test we apply in this opinion is
supported by three justices. As explained below, the dissenting opinion declines to reach a
conclusion using the originalist approach to evaluate the court of appeals’ judgment or the
proposition of law presented. Thus, it cannot be considered to be part of any holding of this court
and has no controlling effect.

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       {¶ 21} Weber argues that R.C. 2923.15 does place a burden on activity
protected by the Second Amendment, pointing to the holding of Heller as support.
But Weber does not provide any developed argument addressing Heller’s
recognition that the right to bear arms is not unlimited. Specifically, Weber’s merits
brief is only six pages long, and he presents no historical evidence and no discussion
of how the original understanding of the right to bear arms relates to this case. This
is significant because the complete ban on handgun possession in the home that was
at issue in Heller is very different from the very limited ban in R.C. 2923.15, which
prohibits only carrying or using a firearm while intoxicated. Weber simply does
not address whether the statute falls within the original understanding of the right
to bear arms.
       {¶ 22} Although there may be good reason to find that Weber’s challenge
to R.C. 2923.15 fails at step one, the absence of any developed argument by Weber
on that issue makes it difficult for this court to reach a firm conclusion.
Nonetheless, we see no real need to decide this case solely on step one because, as
we explain below, Weber’s challenge fails under step two. We therefore take the
approach of several other courts and continue the analysis, assuming arguendo for
this matter, that step one does not result in the conclusion that R.C. 2923.15
regulates conduct outside the scope of the Second Amendment. See Stimmel, 879
F.3d at 205 (proceeding past step one by assuming, without deciding, that the
Second Amendment applied to the law at issue); Chovan, 735 F.3d at 1137 (same);
United States v. Staten, 666 F.3d 154, 160-161 (4th Cir.2011) (same).
    2. Step two: is R.C. 2923.15 unconstitutional based on the application of
                          heightened means-end scrutiny?
a. The constitutionality of R.C. 2923.15 should be judged using intermediate
                                      scrutiny
       {¶ 23} Weber argues that R.C. 2923.15 should be judged under the strict-
scrutiny standard because the right to bear arms is a fundamental right. He points

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to our statement in Harrold v. Collier, 107 Ohio St.3d 44, 2005-Ohio-5334, 836
N.E.2d 1165, ¶ 39, that “[i]f the challenged legislation impinges upon a
fundamental constitutional right, courts must review the statutes under the strict-
scrutiny standard.”
       {¶ 24} We are not persuaded by this argument. Harrold did not involve a
Second Amendment challenge to a firearm regulation. It involved a parent’s claim
that Ohio’s nonparental-visitation statutes “unconstitutionally infringe on a parent’s
fundamental right to make decisions concerning the care, custody, and control of
his or her child,” id. at ¶ 13, a right that is protected by the Due Process Clause of
the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution, id. at ¶ 40, citing
Troxel v. Granville, 530 U.S. 57, 66, 120 S.Ct. 2054, 147 L.Ed.2d 49 (2000), and
Zivich v. Mentor Soccer Club, Inc., 82 Ohio St.3d 367, 372, 696 N.E.2d 201 (1998).
As the Sixth Circuit has observed, however, “the ‘ “risk inherent in firearms” ’
distinguishes the right to keep and bear arms ‘ “from other fundamental rights that
have been held to be evaluated under a strict scrutiny test.” ’ ” Stimmel, 879 F.3d
at 206, quoting Tyler, 837 F.3d at 691 (lead opinion), quoting Bonidy v. United
States Postal Serv., 790 F.3d 1121, 1126 (10th Cir.2015).
       {¶ 25} Weber also appears to argue that strict scrutiny is warranted in this
as-applied challenge because he was in his home at the time he carried the shotgun
while intoxicated and the home is a place where the Second Amendment’s
protections are at their highest. We disagree.
       {¶ 26} It is no doubt true that the core protection of the Second Amendment
at issue here is “the right of law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense
of hearth and home.” (Emphasis added.) Heller, 554 U.S. at 635, 128 S.Ct. 2783,
171 L.Ed.2d 637. But identifying that as the core of the Second Amendment right
is the beginning of the inquiry at this point, not the end. As noted above, the level
of scrutiny is determined based on how close a particular law comes to the core
Second Amendment right and whether it imposes a severe burden on that right. A

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court should apply intermediate scrutiny if the challenged law either does not come
close to the core of the right or imposes only a slight burden on the right. But if the
law imposes a severe burden on the core of the Second Amendment, it should be
judged using strict scrutiny.
       {¶ 27} R.C. 2923.15 does not come close to the core of the right and
imposes, at most, only a slight burden on Weber’s Second Amendment right. The
reason is plain: intoxication impairs cognitive functions and motor skills, so an
intoxicated person who attempts to carry or use a gun in an otherwise lawful manner
is less likely to be able to do so safely and effectively and instead presents a greater
risk of harm to innocent persons in the area as well as himself or herself. By
applying only to persons who are “under the influence of alcohol or any drug of
abuse,” R.C. 2923.15 therefore regulates only the conduct of a person whose ability
to carry or use a gun safely and effectively has already been undermined because
of intoxication.
       {¶ 28} The facts of this case establish a high level of intoxication.
According to the deputies who arrived at his house, Weber was visibly “very” and
“highly” intoxicated, smelled of alcohol, and spoke with slurred speech. He also
had bloodshot and glassy eyes, was swaying from side to side, and could not even
follow the directions given to him for a field sobriety test. It cannot reasonably be
denied that Weber’s choice to drink until he was so highly intoxicated had a
detrimental impact on his ability to engage in self-defense, had it been necessary
for him to do so, and that impact is what brings him within the scope of R.C.
2923.15.
       {¶ 29} R.C. 2923.15 is also very limited in its application. The statute does
not prevent someone who consumes alcohol from owning a gun, nor does it prohibit
a gun from being in a house or provide that a gun must be rendered inoperable if
someone in the house is intoxicated. The statute also leaves persons who consume
alcohol free to carry and use a gun in the home for self-defense when they are not

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intoxicated. In fact, the law does not even apply to a person carrying or using a gun
while consuming alcohol—as long as the person is not intoxicated. (As discussed
later in this opinion, major gun manufacturers and the National Rifle Association
agree that it is unsafe to carry or use a gun while having even a single drink of
alcohol.) Overall, R.C. 2923.15 is a targeted restriction that prohibits a narrow
range of conduct (carrying or using a gun) for a very limited period of time (while
someone is in a state of intoxication) due to the inherently dangerous nature of
carrying or using a gun while in that state.
          {¶ 30} We also find it relevant that numerous courts have applied
intermediate scrutiny to regulations on guns—lifetime prohibitions on certain
individuals possessing a gun—that are far broader and more burdensome than is
R.C. 2923.15. See, e.g., Stimmel, 879 F.3d at 206 (applying intermediate scrutiny
to a complete prohibition on gun possession by individuals previously convicted of
a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence); Tyler, 837 F.3d at 690-693 (lead
opinion) (same as to a complete prohibition on gun possession by certain
individuals suffering from mental illness); Yancey, 621 F.3d at 683 (applying
intermediate scrutiny to a complete prohibition on gun possession by a person who
is “an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance”); United States v.
Williams, 616 F.3d 685, 692-693 (7th Cir.2010) (applying intermediate scrutiny to
complete prohibition on gun possession by convicted felons).            The scope of
R.C. 2923.15 pales in comparison to these lifetime prohibitions. In this light, the
burden placed on Second Amendment rights by R.C. 2923.15 is, at most, only very
slight.
             b. R.C. 2923.15 is constitutional under intermediate scrutiny
          {¶ 31} Under intermediate scrutiny, a statute is constitutional so long as it
furthers an important governmental interest and does so by means that are
substantially related to that interest. Chester, 628 F.3d at 683. R.C. 2923.15 passes
this test.

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       {¶ 32} Weber argues that R.C. 2923.15 does not survive intermediate
scrutiny and cites Heller, 554 U.S. at 628, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637, for the
proposition that the need to have a firearm for self-defense is most acute in the
home. The state, by contrast, argues that the statute furthers the government’s
legitimate interest in protecting people from harm from the combination of firearms
and alcohol.
       {¶ 33} We agree with the state that R.C. 2923.15 furthers this important
governmental interest. When an intoxicated person carries or uses a gun, either at
home or outside the home, the impairment of cognitive functions and motor skills
can result in harm to anyone around the intoxicated person and even to the
intoxicated person himself or herself.
       {¶ 34} The facts here create a case in point in which such harm might have
occurred. Weber picked up a shotgun while heavily intoxicated, which caused his
wife to call 9-1-1. Whether due to Weber’s reduced inhibitions or impaired motor
skills, Weber’s wife perceived a great enough risk to herself or to Weber to make
an emergency call. That risk was then extended to the two deputies who rushed to
the scene at 4:00 a.m., knowing only that an intoxicated man had a gun and that his
wife needed their help.
       {¶ 35} It is also not hard to imagine other examples of the kind of harm the
General Assembly has an interest in preventing:
   an intentional shooting of a friend, coworker, police officer, or other innocent
    person due to reduced inhibitions, impulsivity, or a mood change caused by
    intoxication;
   a suicide facilitated by reduced inhibitions, impulsivity, or a depressed mood
    caused by intoxication;
   an accidental shooting by an intoxicated person handling a gun who incorrectly
    believes the gun is unloaded, or who accidentally pulls the trigger, due to
    impaired cognitive functions or motor skills caused by intoxication;

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   an accidental shooting involving a person who mistakes a loved one arriving
    home for an intruder due to impaired cognitive functions caused by
    intoxication; and
   a shooting by a police officer of an intoxicated person who accidentally or
    intentionally points a gun at the officer due to impaired cognitive functions or
    motor skills caused by intoxication.
Each of these examples has happened in a home with tragic results.
       {¶ 36} The bases for the government’s interest are more than merely
anecdotal, as amici curiae Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence and Brady
Center to Prevent Gun Violence point out. Research shows that “people who abuse
alcohol or illicit drugs are at an increased risk of committing acts of violence.”
Webster & Vernick, Keeping Firearms from Drug and Alcohol Abusers, 15 Injury
Prevention 425 (2009). The victims of such violence are often a gun owner’s family
members or the gun owner himself. For example, “[d]rug and alcohol use by
domestic abusers has been strongly linked with the perpetration of fatal and non-
fatal domestic violence.” Id. at 425. “[A]n overwhelming proportion (70%) of
[intimate-partner] homicide perpetrators were under the influence of substances
when the crime occurred, * * * and the use of alcohol is a strong predictor of
intimate terrorism of women.” Darryl W. Roberts, Intimate Partner Homicide:
Relationships to Alcohol and Firearms, 25 J.Contemp.Crim.Just. 67, 70 (2009).
Studies show that there is a strong correlation between heavy drinking and self-
inflicted injury, including suicide, from a firearm. See Branas, Han & Wiebe,
Alcohol Use and Firearm Violence, 38 Epidemiologic Reviews 32, 36 (2016). The
amici curiae cities also point out in their brief that “[f]or men, deaths from alcohol-
related firearm violence equal those from alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes.”
Garen Wintemute, Alcohol Misuse, Firearm Violence Perpetration, and Public
Policy in the United States, 79 Preventive Medicine 15 (2015).

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          {¶ 37} Even Remington Arms, a gun manufacturer that has been in business
for over 200 years, embraces the concern as part of its Ten Commandments of
Firearm Safety: “Alcohol, drugs and guns are a deadly combination. * * * A
staggering percentage of the shooting accidents that occur every year involve
alcohol or drugs.” Remington Arms Company, Ten Commandments of Firearm
Safety,     available   at   https://www.remington.com/support/safety-center/ten-
commandments-firearm-safety (accessed Sept. 25, 2020) [https://perma.cc/NCD7-
TDWB].
          {¶ 38} Courts have also long recognized a state’s legitimate interest in
preventing those impaired by alcohol or by drugs from using guns. See State v.
Waterhouse, 7th Dist. Belmont No. 93-B-26, 1995 WL 70125, *2 (Feb. 16, 1995);
People v. Wilder, 307 Mich.App. 546, 561, 861 N.W.2d 645 (2014); Gibson v.
State, 930 P.2d 1300, 1302 (Alaska App.1997); Roberge v. United States,
E.D.Tenn. Nos. 1:04-cr-70 and 1:10-cv-273, 2013 WL 4052926, *18 (Aug.12,
2013).
          {¶ 39} R.C. 2923.15 therefore seeks to further the government’s important
interest in using its police power to prevent the harm that can arise from the
combination of guns and alcohol. And the means chosen here are substantially
related to the government’s interest in preventing this harm. As explained above,
R.C. 2923.15 targets the governmental interest directly, applying only to
individuals who are intoxicated. It is difficult to understand how the government
could have attempted to further that interest in any other viable manner.
          {¶ 40} We also reject Weber’s argument that the governmental interest in
preventing harm from the combination of guns and alcohol is lower with respect to
conduct occurring inside a home because the need for a gun for self-defense is most
acute in the home. “The danger to innocent persons is the same whether the
intoxicated person is inside his home or in a public place.” Waterhouse at *2. This
argument also confuses the governmental-interest inquiry with the burden inquiry.

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We already considered the centrality of the home to the Second Amendment when
deciding what level of scrutiny to apply, and that decision affected how strong of a
governmental interest the state is required to show. If the law burdened the core of
the right—self-defense in the home—or otherwise imposed a severe burden on the
right, we would apply strict scrutiny and require the state to show that the law
furthers a compelling governmental interest. But because we find only a slight
burden at best, the law requires the state to meet a lower standard: an important
governmental interest. There is simply no basis for finding that the governmental
interest here is less strong because it regulates conduct in the home when that
governmental interest is being furthered through a statute that regulates only the
conduct of persons whose ability to engage in self-defense in the home has been
diminished by their decision to become intoxicated.
       {¶ 41} To the extent that Weber’s argument is based on a more general
notion that the home is a private place and the government therefore has less of an
interest in regulating what people do there, we reject that argument too. We cannot
consider the conduct regulated by R.C. 2923.15 in some general sense. R.C.
2923.15 regulates conduct that is inherently dangerous, and the governmental
interest in preventing harm from that conduct is strong, regardless whether the
government has an interest in regulating conduct in a home that is not dangerous
and outside the scope of R.C. 2923.15.
       {¶ 42} We similarly reject the contention that because R.C. 2923.15
regulates conduct inside a home, it does not further the governmental interest in a
way that is substantially related to that interest. An intoxicated person’s home is
often also the home of that person’s spouse and children and, as discussed above,
those persons are often the victims of violence because of the combination of guns
and alcohol. Applying R.C. 2923.15 to activity within a home is therefore essential
for the General Assembly to protect family members, public servants, and others
from the harm that arises when guns and alcohol mix. As noted above, the statute

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is also extremely limited in how it applies in the home, leaving Weber free to have
a gun in his home at all times and to carry that gun in his home once his cognitive
abilities and motor skills return to normal and he no longer presents a risk of harm
to others and himself.
        {¶ 43} The fact that R.C. 2923.15 applies to unloaded guns also does not
impact its constitutionality, as there is still a clear risk of harm from permitting an
intoxicated person to carry an unloaded gun. If an intoxicated person decides to
shoot someone due to reduced inhibitions or a mood change, the need to load the
gun first may not impose a meaningful practical barrier. Second, making a
distinction between loaded and unloaded guns for purposes of R.C. 2923.15
presumes that an intoxicated person can be expected to accurately determine
whether a gun is unloaded. Given the impairment of cognitive functions and motor
skills caused by intoxication, however, the General Assembly can reasonably
decide not to rely on that expectation to keep others in the house safe. In other
words, intoxicated persons may believe a gun is unloaded when, in fact, it is not,
which can lead to unintended shootings. Tragically, this is confirmed by news
reports of accidental shootings in which the shooter later states that he or she
thought the gun was unloaded. Including unloaded guns within the scope of R.C.
2923.15 therefore furthers the government’s important interest in preventing harm
from the combination of guns and alcohol through means that are substantially
related to that interest.
        {¶ 44} This conclusion is not changed by the facts that Weber’s shotgun
was unloaded when the deputies arrived and no harm was caused to anyone in this
particular case. First, Shouse testified that Weber told him he was unloading the
shotgun to wipe it down, and Weber confirms this statement in his brief. This
indicates that Weber’s shotgun was loaded when he first picked it up. Such conduct
is plainly dangerous. Second, the fact that Weber may have unloaded the shotgun
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the General Assembly’s important interest in preventing harm through
R.C. 2923.15. See Ohralik v. Ohio State Bar Assn., 436 U.S. 447, 468, 98 S.Ct.
1912, 56 L.Ed.2d 444 (1978) (holding that “the absence of explicit proof or findings
of harm or injury [in the case before the court] is immaterial” when the government
has an interest in a prophylactic rule designed to prevent harm before it occurs);
United States v. Edge Broadcasting Co., 509 U.S. 418, 430-431, 113 S.Ct. 2696,
125 L.Ed.2d 345 (1983), citing Ward v. Rock Against Racism, 491 U.S. 781, 801,
109 S.Ct. 2746, 105 L.Ed.2d 661 (1989) (“we judge the validity of the restriction
in this [as-applied challenge] by the relation it bears to the general problem * * *
not by the extent to which it furthers the Government’s interest in an individual
case”).
          {¶ 45} We also note that courts upholding far broader and more burdensome
laws—lifetime prohibitions on certain individuals possessing guns—have not
found that it made a difference that the laws were applied in the home or to unloaded
guns. See, e.g., Stimmel, 879 F.3d at 206 (upholding complete prohibition on gun
possession by individuals previously convicted of a misdemeanor crime of
domestic violence); Yancey, 621 F.3d at 683 (upholding complete prohibition on
gun possession by a person who is “an unlawful user of or addicted to any
controlled substance”); Williams, 616 F.3d at 692-693 (upholding complete
prohibition on gun possession by convicted felons).
          {¶ 46} Finally, major American gun manufacturers and the National Rifle
Association agree that it is unsafe to carry a gun while intoxicated, and they do not
make any distinction based on whether one is at home or the gun is unloaded. See
Sturm, Ruger & Company, Basic Safety Rules (“Avoid alcoholic beverages or
drugs       when     shooting      or      handling    a     gun”),   available      at
https://www.ruger.com/safety/basicSafetyRules.html (accessed Sept. 25, 2020)
[https://perma.cc/82N9-4TFZ];           Remington     Arms    Company,     at     First
Commandment (“Treat every gun as if it were loaded”), available at

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https://www.remington.com/support/safety-center/ten-commandments-firearm-
safety (accessed Sept. 25, 2020) [https://perma.cc/NCD7-TDWB]; Browning,
Firearms Safety Depends on You at 2 (“Alcohol * * * & guns don’t mix”), available
at              https://www.browning.com/content/dam/browning/support/safety-
recall/FSDOY.pdf (accessed Sept. 25, 2020) [https://perma.cc/L5TY-TXUB];
Springfield Armory, Safety Information (“Never use alcohol * * * when handling
a gun. Alcohol and other substances can impair mental and physical bodily
functions, including reaction time and judgment, and should not be used before or
during the handling of firearms”), available at https://www.springfield-
armory.com/intel/safety-information/          (accessed    Sept.      25,     2020)
[https://perma.cc/73B2-KXE8]; National Rifle Association, NRA Gun Safety
Rules (“Alcohol, as well as any other substance likely to impair normal mental or
physical bodily functions, must not be used before or while handling or shooting
guns”), available at https://gunsafetyrules.nra.org/ (accessed Sept. 25, 2020)
[https://perma.cc/9ZQN-5QSA].
       {¶ 47} R.C. 2923.15 is valid under the intermediate-scrutiny test; the statute
does not violate the Second Amendment.
     C. The constitutionality of R.C. 2923.15 under the Ohio Constitution
       {¶ 48} Weber states in passing that R.C. 2923.15 also violates Article I,
Section 4 of the Ohio Constitution, which provides, “The people have the right to
bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are
dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict
subordination to the civil power.” But Weber makes no attempt to discuss how this
provision differs from the Second Amendment. He does not discuss the text or
history of Article I, Section 4, nor does he discuss this court’s precedent on that
provision or otherwise argue why that provision protects his conduct in this case
beyond the Second Amendment. We therefore decline to address whether R.C.
2923.15 violates Article I, Section 4 of the Ohio Constitution. See Mason City

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School Dist. Bd. of Edn. v. Warren Cty. Bd. of Revision, 138 Ohio St.3d 153, 2014-
Ohio-104, 4 N.E.3d 1027, ¶ 38.
                       IV. THE DISSENTING OPINION
       {¶ 49} The dissenting opinion argues that we should reverse the judgment
of the Twelfth District Court of Appeals and remand the matter for further
proceedings on the ground that the court of appeals reviewed Weber’s argument
using what the dissenting opinion believes is the wrong test. That approach is
plainly wrong. We review judgments, not reasons. State v. Lozier, 101 Ohio St.3d
161, 2004-Ohio-732, 803 N.E.2d 770, ¶ 46 (“A reviewing court is not authorized
to reverse a correct judgment merely because it was reached for the wrong reason”);
Agricultural Ins. Co. v. Constantine, 144 Ohio St. 275, 284, 58 N.E.2d 658 (1944)
(same). This is not a controversial principle: we recognized it as early as 1846. See
Harman v. Kelley, 14 Ohio 502, 507 (1846). The United States Supreme Court
recognized it at least a quarter of a century before that. See McClung v. Silliman,
19 U.S. 598, 603, 5 L.Ed. 340 (1821) (“The question before an appellate Court is,
was the judgment correct, not the ground on which the judgment professes to
proceed” [emphasis sic]). For this reason, nothing in the dissenting opinion can be
considered to be part of any holding of this court. It has no controlling effect. At
most, it signals how the dissenting justices might view the next case that presents a
Second Amendment challenge. But it does not establish legal precedent.
       {¶ 50} It is also clear that the dissenting opinion would simply give Weber
a second bite of the apple. Although it states that it is simply trying to be fair by
“[g]iving the parties the chance to brief and argue” the appropriate test for Second
Amendment cases (emphasis added), dissenting opinion at ¶ 125, the parties did
have the chance to address the issue. The court of appeals clearly discussed the
relevant law, including the different tests that have been applied nationally since
Heller, and the state thoroughly briefed the issue before us. Two amici curiae in
support of the state thoroughly briefed the issue as well. But Weber did not. He

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argued only that we should decide this case based on the basic holding of Heller or
after applying strict scrutiny.
        {¶ 51} The dissenting opinion also states that “it is worth reminding both
parties that * * * each side would need to marshal significant historical evidence
in support of their understanding of the Second Amendment.” (Emphasis added.)
Dissenting opinion at ¶ 126. But again, the state and amici curiae did provide a
substantial amount of historical material in support of their argument that the court
of appeals’ judgment was correct under the text-history-and-tradition approach
preferred by the dissenting opinion. Weber presented no such argument.
        {¶ 52} There is, therefore, no reason for the dissenting opinion to give
Weber a second chance to argue this case. And it would be particularly improper
to do that while simultaneously giving him instructions on how he should argue the
case the second time around, as the dissenting opinion does. The dissenting opinion
even preemptively labels certain statements in Heller as dicta, apparently oblivious
to the fact that doing so without addressing the correctness of the court of appeals’
judgment is itself dicta.
        {¶ 53} Lastly, the dissenting opinion does not really explain what it means
to judge R.C. 2923.15 by the “text, history, and tradition” of the Second
Amendment. What should a court do when those do not provide a clear answer?
If the Twelfth District reviewed this case again and found the historical record
unclear, would we not be right back where we started?
        {¶ 54} More generally, how would the dissenting opinion address the
concern that historical evidence can be viewed in different ways by different
people? How would it deal with an argument that changed circumstances make
reliance on certain Framing Era practices unjustified? Would it reject that notion
reflexively on the ground that modern concerns are wholly irrelevant under the text-
history-and-tradition-based approach? Or does it acknowledge that present-day
judgments have a role to play?

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       {¶ 55} The dissenting opinion provides no guidance on these important
questions, and there are many more such questions. (Does one simply look for an
historical analogue to the law at issue? And if analogues exist, how widespread
must they be? How does one deal with modern technologies and circumstances
that did not exist at the time of the Founding? We could go on.) The dissenting
opinion would simply give Weber a second change to litigate his claim, with
guidance on how to win. Nothing about the dissenting opinion reflects a principled
approach to deciding this case.
                                  V. CONCLUSION
       {¶ 56} For the reasons explained above, we affirm the judgment of the
Twelfth District Court of Appeals.
                                                                Judgment affirmed.
       DONNELLY and STEWART, JJ., concur.
       DEWINE, J., concurs in judgment only, with an opinion.
       FISCHER, J., dissents, with an opinion joined by KENNEDY and FRENCH, JJ.
                               _________________
       DEWINE, J., concurring in judgment only.
       {¶ 57} The question presented in this case is whether there is a
constitutional right to be drunk and handle a firearm. Or, can the government say:
you’re allowed to be drunk and you have a right to handle a firearm—you just can’t
do both at the same time. Based on the original understanding of the Second
Amendment, the answer is the latter. So I concur in the judgment. But because I
believe the lead opinion’s mode of analysis fails to provide adequate protection for
the right to bear arms, I concur in judgment only.
I. The Lead Opinion Fails to Follow the Analytical Framework Established
        by the United States Supreme Court in Heller v. United States
       {¶ 58} The text of the Second Amendment provides that “[a] well regulated
Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to

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keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” The Ohio Constitution has a similar
provision: “The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security
* * *.” Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4. Because Weber bases his arguments
on the Second Amendment, and because the lead opinion analyzes the right under
the Second Amendment, I too will limit my focus to the federal guarantee.
  A. In Heller, the United States Supreme Court Looked to Text, History, and
                  Tradition to Determine the Scope of the Right
       {¶ 59} In District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court held that “on
the basis of both text and history,” the Second Amendment confers “an individual
right to keep and bear arms.” 554 U.S. 570, 595, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637
(2008). The amendment is “widely understood to codify a pre-existing right, rather
than to a fashion a new one.” Id. at 603. In assessing the scope of the right, the
court began with the text of the amendment and considered how its words would
have been understood at the time of its ratification. Id. at 576-592. But the court’s
inquiry was not limited to linguistics. Instead, it drew on history and tradition to
illuminate the purview of the right. The sources relied upon by the court can be
grouped into three areas.
       {¶ 60} First, the court looked to English history and the Declaration of
Rights of 1689. Id. at 593-595. Second, the court examined contemporary sources
from the time of the founding.        These included arguments made during the
ratification debates, id. at 598-599, state constitutional provisions in the period
between independence and the ratification of the Bill of Rights, id. at 601-602, and
“Second Amendment analogues” adopted in nine states between 1789 and 1820,
id. at 602-604. Third, the court considered “how the Second Amendment was
interpreted from immediately after its ratification through the end of the 19th
century.” Id. at 605. In doing so, the court identified four distinct areas of inquiry:
“postratification commentary,” id. at 605-606, pre–Civil War case law, id. at 610-
614, post–Civil War legislation, id. at 613-616, and “post–Civil War

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commentators,” id. at 616-619. Though acknowledging that the post–Civil-War
sources “do not provide as much insight into [the Second Amendment’s] original
meaning as earlier sources,” the court still found “their understanding of the origins
and continuing significance of the Amendment [to be] instructive.” Id. at 614.
       {¶ 61} Based on its survey of text, history, and tradition, the court
concluded that the Second Amendment guaranteed an individual’s right to bear
arms and that the Washington, D.C., handgun ordinance at issue in the case
infringed upon the right. Id. at 592, 628-629. The court also explained that “[l]ike
most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited.” Id. at
626. Thus, it made clear that its “opinion should [not] be taken to cast doubt on
longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally
ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools
and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the
commercial sale of arms.”       Id. at 626-627.     It further explained that “these
presumptively lawful regulatory measures” were simply examples; the “list does
not purport to be exhaustive.” Id. at 627, fn. 26. The court didn’t elaborate on the
historical reasons for these limitations on the right but rather noted that “there will
be time enough to expound upon the historical justifications for the exceptions we
have mentioned if and when those exceptions come before us.” Id. at 635.
       {¶ 62} Subsequently, in McDonald v. Chicago, the Supreme Court applied
the same text-history-and-tradition approach to a Chicago firearms ban. 561 U.S.
742, 130 S.Ct. 3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894 (2010). It held that the Second Amendment
right applied against the states through the Fourteenth Amendment because “the
right to keep and bear arms is * * * fundamental * * * to our scheme of ordered
liberty.” Id. at 778. The court also repeated the assurances made in Heller that its
holding “did not cast doubt on such longstanding regulatory measures as
‘prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill.’ ” Id. at
786, quoting Heller, 554 U.S. at 626, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637.

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         B. The Lead Opinion Improperly Applies Intermediate Scrutiny
        {¶ 63} The lead opinion begins by discussing the Supreme Court’s decision
in Heller. But rather than follow the lead of Heller and decide this case by using
text, history, and tradition, it opts to apply a two-step test. In the first step, the lead
opinion asks whether the restriction places a burden on activity within the Second
Amendment. Lead opinion at ¶ 20-22. It then “assume[s] arguendo” that the
regulated conduct is not outside the Second Amendment protection and proceeds
to apply an interest-balancing test by which R.C. 2923.15 is subjected to
intermediate scrutiny. Id. at ¶ 22. Under this test, “the statute is constitutional so
long as it furthers an important governmental interest and does so by means that are
substantially related to that interest.” Id. at ¶ 16, citing United States v. Chester,
628 F.3d 673, 683 (4th Cir.2010).
        {¶ 64} In my view, the intermediate-scrutiny test employed by the lead
opinion is inconsistent with Heller and McDonald and insufficiently protective of
the Second Amendment right. In Heller, the Supreme Court chose to forego
employing an interest-balancing approach and instead looked to text, history, and
tradition to determine whether the District of Columbia handgun statute infringed
upon the Second Amendment right. Heller at 634-635. Notably, in his dissent in
Heller, Justice Breyer proposed an interest-balancing test that looks a lot like what
the lead opinion uses today, asking “whether the statute burdens a protected interest
in a way or to an extent that is out of proportion to the statute's salutary effects upon
other important governmental interests.” Id. at 689-690 (Breyer, J., dissenting).
The Heller majority explicitly rejected this suggestion, pointing out that the
amendment itself was the product of interest balancing:

        The very enumeration of the right takes out of the hands of
        government—even the Third Branch of Government—the power to
        decide on a case-by-case basis whether the right is really worth

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       insisting upon. A constitutional guarantee subject to future judges’
       assessments of its usefulness is no constitutional guarantee at all.
       Constitutional rights are enshrined with the scope they were
       understood to have when the people adopted them, whether or not
       future legislatures or (yes) even future judges think that scope too
       broad. * * * The Second Amendment * * * is the very product of
       an interest balancing by the people—which Justice Breyer would
       now conduct for them anew. And whatever else it leaves to future
       evaluation, it surely elevates above all other interests the right of
       law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth
       and home.

(Emphasis sic.) Id. at 634-635.
       {¶ 65} There can be little question that the court meant what it said about
interest balancing in Heller because it made the same point in McDonald:
“Municipal respondents assert that [state-constitution protections of firearm rights]
are subject to ‘interest balancing’ and [state courts] have sustained a variety of
restrictions. * * * In Heller, however, we expressly rejected the argument that the
scope of the Second Amendment right should be determined by judicial interest
balancing.” McDonald, 561 U.S. at 785, 130 S.Ct. 3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894, citing
Heller, 554 U.S. at 633-635, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637.
       {¶ 66} It is true that in Heller, the court said that the D.C. ban would be
unconstitutional under any of the traditional standards of scrutiny. Heller at 628-
629. And it is also true that in the years since Heller, many federal circuit courts
have adopted a test similar to that employed by the lead opinion with intermediate
scrutiny applied at the second step. See lead opinion at ¶ 13-17 (collecting cases).
But read in context, the Supreme Court’s comment in Heller “was more of a
gilding-the-lily observation about the extreme nature of D.C’s law—and appears to

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have been a pointed comment that the dissenters should have found D.C.’s law
unconstitutional even under their own suggested balancing approach—than a
statement that courts may or should apply strict or intermediate scrutiny in Second
Amendment cases.” Heller v. District of Columbia, 670 F.3d 1244, 1277-1278
(D.C.Cir.2011) (“Heller II”) (Kavanaugh, J., dissenting). And the adoption of the
two-pronged approach by federal courts seems to result more from a reflexive resort
to familiar standards than from a faithful reading of Heller and McDonald.
       {¶ 67} The disconnect between Heller and the approach used by these
federal courts (and the lead opinion today) has not gone unnoticed by members of
the United States Supreme Court. Justice Thomas, in a dissent joined by Justice
Kavanagh, has complained that “many courts have resisted our decision in Heller
and McDonald” and “[i]nstead of following the guidance provided in Heller” have
“self-created” an analytical vacuum that they have filled with a two-step test that
“incorporates tiers of scrutiny on a sliding scale.” Rogers v. Grewal, ___ U.S. ___,
___, 140 S.Ct. 1865, 1866, 207 L. Ed. 2d 1059 (2020) (Thomas, J. dissenting to the
denial of certiorari). And, dissenting in a case dismissed as moot earlier this year,
Justice Alito—joined by Justices Thomas and Gorsuch—explained the disputed
regulation should have been assessed under the Heller framework, using history
and tradition to ascertain “the scope of the right to keep and bear arms as it was
understood at the time of the adoption of the Second Amendment.” New York State
Rifle & Pistol Assn., Inc. v. New York, ___ U.S. ___, ___, 140 S.Ct. 1525, 1540,
206 L.Ed.2d 798, (Alito, J., dissenting), citing Heller at 577-605, 628-629. Justice
Kavanaugh concurred with the majority that the case was moot but wrote separately
to explain that he agreed “with Justice Alito’s general analysis of Heller and
McDonald” and “share[d] Justice Alito’s concern that some federal and state courts
may not be properly applying Heller and McDonald.” Id. at ___, 140 S.Ct. at 1527.
       {¶ 68} In the same vein, a number of federal jurists have argued
persuasively for application of the text-history-tradition approach employed by

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Heller rather than an interest-balancing test.       See, e.g., Heller II at 1271
(Kavanaugh, J., dissenting) (“Heller and McDonald leave little doubt that courts
are to assess gun bans and regulations based on text, history, and tradition, not by
a balancing test such as strict or intermediate scrutiny”); Tyler v. Hillsdale Cty.
Sheriff’s Dept., 837 F.3d 678, 703-704 (6th Cir.2016) (“Tyler II”) (Batchelder, J.,
concurring in part), quoting Heller at 634 (“in embracing an approach largely
divorced from the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment, I fear that
we are well on our way to doing what Heller and, more importantly, the People
who ratified the Second Amendment, forbade: ‘decid[ing] on a case-by-case basis
whether the right is really worth insisting upon’ ” [emphasis in Heller and brackets
added in Tyler II]).
       {¶ 69} Thus, rather than jump to a balancing test, we should look at text,
history, and tradition. If the government regulation burdens conduct that was not
understood to fall within the scope of the right, then the Second Amendment is not
implicated. On the other hand, if a regulation wholly proscribes the core right to
bear arms, it violates the Constitution. This is the case no matter how compelling
the purported governmental interest. Heller, 554 U.S. at 634-636, 128 S.Ct. 2783,
171 L.Ed.2d 637. A city, for example, might decide to pass legislation banning
handguns. In support, it might proffer a wealth of statistics and sociological studies
to show that the city’s handgun ban is absolutely necessary to prevent gun violence.
Confronting such a claim, a court need not sift through this evidence and ask
whether more narrowly tailored ways would achieve the compelling government
interest of reducing gun violence. Such an inquiry is unnecessary because the
Second Amendment has taken the question off the table.
       {¶ 70} So rarely, if ever, will we need to resort to an interest-balancing test
to resolve a Second Amendment challenge. But to the extent that we ever find a
question that cannot be answered based on text, history, and tradition, intermediate
scrutiny is not the appropriate test.      There is no question that the Second

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Amendment guarantee of a personal right to own a firearm is a “fundamental right[]
necessary to our system of ordered liberty.” McDonald, 561 U.S. at 778, 130 S.Ct.
3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894. Nor is it disputed that this right is one that is “ ‘deeply
rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition.’ ” Id. at 767, quoting Washington v.
Glucksberg, 521 U.S. 702, 721, 117 S.Ct. 2258, 138 L.Ed.2d 772 (1997). In most
contexts, we subject governmental regulations that infringe on fundamental rights
to strict scrutiny. See, e.g., Glucksberg at 720-721 (strict scrutiny applies to
“fundamental” liberty interests); Harrold v. Collier, 107 Ohio St.3d 44, 2005-Ohio-
5334, 836 N.E.2d 1165, ¶ 39 (same). The framers certainly did not believe the
Second Amendment was any less important than any of the other original
amendments. See McDonald at 789 (rejecting the notion that the right to bear arms
should be treated “as a second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of
rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees”). As the Supreme Court explained
in Heller and McDonald, the right was well ingrained at the founding with four
states having adopted Second Amendment analogues before ratification and nine
more states (including Ohio) adopting state constitutional provisions protecting the
right to bear arms between 1789 and 1820. McDonald at 769, citing Heller at 600-
603. For good reason, Joseph Story in his Commentaries on the Constitution of the
United States identified “ ‘[t]he right of the citizens to keep, and bear arms’ ” as
“ ‘the palladium of the liberties of a republic.’ ” Id. at 769-770, quoting 3 Story,
Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, Section 1890, at 746 (1833).
       {¶ 71} Thus, I would apply the analytical framework endorsed by the Heller
court and decide Weber’s claim that his Second Amendment rights have been
violated based upon the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment. The
three dissenting members of this court take the same approach. See dissent at ¶ 111.
Because a majority of the court today adopts this approach, going forward, lower
courts in Ohio should follow the analytical framework used by the Supreme Court

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in Heller and assess Second Amendment claims based upon text, history, and
tradition.
             II. Weber Challenges R.C. 2923.15(A) as Applied to Him
        {¶ 72} Weber advances an “as applied” challenge. That is, he does not
contend that the law is unconstitutional as written but rather that its application to
him “ ‘in the particular context in which he has acted’ ” is unconstitutional. State
v. Lowe, 112 Ohio St.3d 507, 2007-Ohio-606, 861 N.E.2d 512, ¶ 17, quoting Ada
v. Guam Soc. of Obstetricians & Gynecologists, 506 U.S. 1011, 113 S.Ct. 633, 121
L.Ed.2d 564 (1992) (Scalia, J., dissenting to the denial of certiorari). The salient
facts are (1) that Weber was highly intoxicated, (2) that he was in his home with
his wife, (3) that he was physically handling his firearm, (4) that while intoxicated
Weber unloaded his weapon, and (5) that out of an apparent concern for her own
safety, Weber’s wife, sometime around 4:00 a.m., called 9-1-1 to summon law
enforcement to the house. The question is whether under these facts Weber suffered
a deprivation of a constitutional right.
        {¶ 73} Even though Weber says that he is challenging the statute as applied,
he repeatedly raises arguments that either are based on erroneous assumptions or
relate to other hypothetical situations. For example, he says, “every person who is
in their home and has a firearm in the home while (or after) consuming alcohol may
be charged under the statute.” If that statement were true, I would likely agree that
the statute was unconstitutional, at least as applied to someone who was prosecuted
for simply having a weapon in the house while intoxicated. But it is not true. The
statute under which Weber was prosecuted only makes it crime to “carry or use” a
firearm while intoxicated, something Weber was plainly doing. R.C. 2923.15.
        {¶ 74} Weber also contends that the statute conflicts with the castle doctrine
and maintains that this case involves one’s right to use a weapon in their home for
purposes of self-defense. That’s not correct either. This is not a case in which the
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weapon in self-defense. Again, if that were the case, I would likely agree that the
law was unconstitutional in that particular application. But that is not the case in
front of us. Furthermore, Weber’s home wasn’t just his castle, it was also his wife’s
castle. And the reason the police came to their home was because she summoned
them.
        {¶ 75} Nor do I understand Weber’s emphatic claim that this is a case
dealing solely with the handling of an unloaded weapon. Weber told the deputy
who arrived on the scene that he was “unloading the firearm to wipe it down.”
Maybe I’m missing something, but I’m pretty sure that the only way someone can
“unload” a weapon is for the weapon to have been loaded.
        {¶ 76} Weber cannot challenge the statute by arguing that “it would be
unconstitutional if applied to third parties in hypothetical situations.” Ulster Cty.
Court v. Allen, 442 U.S. 140, 1555, 99 S.Ct. 2213, 60 L.Ed.2d 777 (1979), citing
Broadrick v. Oklahoma, 413 U.S. 601, 610, 93 S.Ct. 2908, 37 L.Ed.2d 830 (1973).
The only thing that is relevant is whether the statute is unconstitutional in its
particular application to Weber.
             III. Applying the Heller Framework to R.C. 2923.15
        {¶ 77} The question after Heller and McDonald is whether R.C. 2923.15
falls within the category of “longstanding regulatory measures” that, like
prohibitions on gun ownership by felons and the mentally ill, fall outside the
Second Amendment’s protection. McDonald, 561 U.S. at 786, 130 S.Ct. 3020, 177
L.Ed.2d 894. As I will explain below, the weight of the evidence demonstrates that
it does. First, the rationale that places someone who is currently mentally ill and
unable to responsibly use a firearm outside the Second Amendment protection
applies with equal force to someone who is intoxicated. Second, the best available
evidence about the founding generation’s understanding of the right to bear arms
reveals that the right did not preclude restrictions on classes of people who
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tied its conception of a right to the use of reason and understood that one with a
reduced ability to reason could be incapable of exercising a right. Finally, a review
of legal prohibitions involving guns and alcohol in 18th- and 19th-century America
adds further support for the proposition that R.C. 2923.15, as applied to Weber, is
not inconsistent with the Second Amendment.
A. R.C. 2923.15 Is Consistent with Restrictions on Firearms Ownership by the
                                    Mentally Ill
        {¶ 78} In Heller, the Supreme Court placed “longstanding prohibitions on
the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill” outside the scope of the
Second Amendment’s protection. Heller, 554 U.S. at 626, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171
L.Ed.2d 637. The dissent correctly notes that this language can be considered dicta.
Dissenting opinion at ¶ 127. But the Supreme Court felt it sufficiently important
to not only make this point in Heller but to reiterate it in McDonald. McDonald,
561 U.S. at 786, 130 S.Ct. 3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894. Thus, it must be considered in
the historical analysis.
        {¶ 79} Indeed, since Heller, there has been universal agreement that such
restrictions are permissible under the Second Amendment. See, e.g., Tyler v.
Hillsdale, 775 F.3d 308, 321 (6th Cir.2014), vacated on other grounds and reh’g
en banc granted Apr. 21, 2015 (“We need not reinvent the wheel and justify with
historical reasoning [a] prohibition on possession of firearms by the mentally ill.
* * * Heller has already sanctioned” this longstanding prohibition). The debate that
has played out in the caselaw since Heller is not whether such restrictions are
permissible but whether certain individuals—for example, nonviolent felons or
those who previously suffered but do not currently suffer from a mental illness—
may argue that such restrictions may not properly be applied to them. See, e.g.,
Kanter v. Barr, 919 F.3d 437, 442 (7th Cir.2019) (noting that “[r]elying on the
‘presumptively lawful’ language in Heller and McDonald, every federal court of
appeals to address the issue has held that [18 U.S.C.] 922(g)(1)[’s prohibition on

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firearm ownership by a felon] does not violate the Second Amendment,” but the
“courts of appeals are split as to whether as-applied” challenges are available
[emphasis sic]); id. at 454 (Barrett, J., dissenting) (“Heller’s reference endorses the
proposition that the legislature can impose some categorical bans on the possession
of firearms. * * * Our task is to determine whether all felons—violent and
nonviolent alike—comprise one such category” [emphasis sic]); Tyler II, 837 F.3d
at 680-681 (all 16 members of the en banc court agreeing that the government can
restrict firearm ownership by someone who is currently mentally ill but disagreeing
as to whether someone who had been committed 30 years earlier for a mental-health
episode could be denied the right to own a firearm, despite being decades removed
from the incident and currently having no mental-health problems).
       {¶ 80} If the government can restrict gun ownership by someone who is
currently mentally ill without running afoul of the Second Amendment, it would
seem to also be the case that the government can restrict gun handling by someone
who is intoxicated. One is hard-pressed to make any distinction between someone
who is temporarily intoxicated and someone who is currently suffering from mental
illness. In both cases, the person is unable to rationally exercise his right to bear
arms and presents a danger to others. As one commentator explained, “there seems
to be little reason to treat those who are briefly mentally infirm as a result of
intoxication differently from those who are permanently mentally infirm as a result
of illness or retardation.” Volokh, Implementing the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
for Self-Defense: An Analytical Framework and a Research Agenda, 56 UCLA
L.Rev. 1443, 1535 (2009).
       {¶ 81} Indeed, the prohibition on gun handling by someone who is
intoxicated is a much more limited restriction on the right than a restriction directed
at the mentally ill. The ban is of a reduced duration: the drunk need only sober up
to regain the ability to exercise the right. The ban is narrower in scope: under R.C.
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having constructive possession of one, he simply must wait until he sobers up to
handle his firearm. And unlike someone who suffers from mental illness, one who
is intoxicated has complete control of the firearms disability: if you want to handle
your gun, just make sure you don’t get drunk first. Indeed, R.C. 2923.15 doesn’t
prohibit someone from handling a gun at all, it just prohibits someone who chooses
to handle a gun from being drunk.
        {¶ 82} Also analogous to the restriction on handling a firearm while
intoxicated is the federal ban on gun possession for someone “who is an unlawful
user of or addicted to any controlled substance.” See 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(3). Similar
restrictions were unknown at the time of the founding, but applying Heller, courts
have had little difficulty holding that such laws do not infringe upon conduct within
the scope of the Second Amendment’s protection. See United States v. Yancey, 621
F.3d 681, 683 (7th Cir.2010) (per curiam). As the Seventh Circuit explained,
“habitual drug abusers, like the mentally ill, are more likely to have difficulty
exercising self-control, making it dangerous for them to possess deadly firearms.”
Id. at 685. Further, such a restriction is “far less onerous than those affecting felons
and the mentally ill,” because “an unlawful drug user * * * could regain his right to
possess a firearm simply by ending his drug abuse.” Id. at 686-687.
        {¶ 83} Weber’s primary complaint is that R.C. 2923.15 was applied to his
conduct inside his home. But restrictions on gun ownership by felons and the
mentally ill also apply inside the home, as do prohibitions directed at habitual drug
users. So it is hard to see how the fact that Weber was inside his home changes the
analysis. Furthermore, Heller spoke of the “right of law-abiding, responsible
citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home.” Heller, 554 U.S. at 635, 128
S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637. Whether Weber was law abiding may depend on the
outcome of this case, but at the time of his arrest, he certainly wasn’t a “responsible
citizen” and he wasn’t acting in self-defense.

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        {¶ 84} The analogy to mental illness presents a strong basis for upholding
the restriction. But I agree with the dissent that it is important to look more deeply
at history and tradition. Thus, it is worth exploring the historical explanations for
the restrictions on firearms ownership by felons and the mentally ill.
   B. The Understanding of the Second Amendment Right at the Time of its
                                      Enactment
        {¶ 85} As Justice Scalia explained in McDonald, “[h]istorical analysis can
be difficult; it sometimes requires resolving threshold questions, and making
nuanced judgments about which evidence to consult and how to interpret it.”
McDonald, 561 U.S. at 803-804, 130 S.Ct. 3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894 (Scalia, J.,
concurring). So at the outset, it is important to understand the scope of the historical
inquiry. It seems clear that laws identical to R.C. 2923.15 did not exist at the time
of the founding. But that is not the question. The question is whether the scope of
the Second Amendment right as it was originally understood would have precluded
Congress from enacting a restriction like R.C. 2923.15.
        {¶ 86} Think about it this way. A casual glance at current practice can tell
us that we (thankfully) do not yet live in a dystopian world in which the General
Assembly has outlawed everything it could constitutionally outlaw. For instance,
the legislature is not constitutionally prohibited from making it illegal to drive faster
than 35 miles per hour on public highways, but fortunately it hasn’t chosen to do
so. If someone 100 years in the future looked back on the present era, noted that a
great many things weren’t outlawed, and drew the inference that those things were
beyond the power of the General Assembly to outlaw, he would seriously
misunderstand our current system of law. Thus, the historical analysis has to
involve more than simply looking for founding-era equivalents to R.C. 2923.15.
        {¶ 87} This point is driven home by the Supreme Court’s recognition in
Heller and McDonald of “presumptively lawful” restrictions on felons and the
mentally ill. Heller, 554 U.S. at 627, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637, fn. 26;

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McDonald at 786. Before 1791, “laws disarming the mentally ill * * * simply d[id]
not exist.” Larson, Four Exceptions in Search of a Theory: District of Columbia v.
Heller and Judicial Ipse Dixit, 60 Hastings L.J. 1371, 1378 (2009); see also id. at
1376 (“One searches in vain through eighteenth-century records to find any laws
specifically excluding the mentally ill from firearms ownership”). The same goes
for the felon exception. Id. at 1374 (“no colonial or state law in eighteenth-century
America formally restricted the ability of felons to own firearms”); see also
Marshall, Why Can’t Martha Stewart Have a Gun?, 32 Harv.J.L. & Pub.Pol’y 695,
708 (2009) (“one can with a good degree of confidence say that bans on convicts
possessing firearms were unknown before World War I”).
         {¶ 88} Because of the lack of close historical analogues, courts and
commentators have looked at the understanding of the Second Amendment right at
the time of the founding when assessing the scope of permissible restrictions on
gun ownership by felons and the mentally ill. This inquiry recognizes that the
question is not whether there is a founding-era version of a modern prohibition, but
whether the right was originally understood in such a way as to make the modern
prohibition lawful. Two explanations of the original understanding of the Second
Amendment right—one based on dangerousness and one rights based—are
particularly persuasive.3 And both weigh in favor of the restriction on gun use by
the intoxicated.

3. A third explanation that has been has cited by numerous courts ties the Second Amendment right
to the concept of a virtuous citizenry. See, e.g., Yancey, 621 F.3d at 684-685 (“most scholars of the
Second Amendment agree that the right to bear arms was tied to the concept of a virtuous citizenry
and that, accordingly, the government could disarm ‘unvirtuous citizens’ ”). Because I find that
explanation less persuasive and underprotective of the Second Amendment right, I do not elaborate
on it here. See generally Kanter, 919 F.3d at 462-464 (Barrett, J. dissenting) (debunking the idea
that the Second Amendment should be understood as applying only to virtuous citizens). Under
that rationale, though, the restriction on one who is presently intoxicated would easily pass
constitutional muster.

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  1. The Founding Generation Understood that the Right to Bear Arms Did Not
  Preclude Placing Restrictions on Classes of People Who Presented a Present
                                  Danger to Others
        {¶ 89} There is considerable historical evidence that restrictions on firearm
use by those who presented a present danger to others fell outside the Second
Amendment right. Both Judge (now Justice) Barrett, formerly of the Seventh
Circuit, and Judge Hardiman of the Third Circuit have engaged in a detailed
analysis of the historical evidence from the time of the founding to determine the
public understanding of the Second Amendment at the time of its enactment. In
the words of Judge Barrett, founding-era “legislatures disqualified categories of
people from the right to bear arms only when they judged that doing so was
necessary to protect the public safety.” Kanter, 919 F.3d at 451 (Barrett, J.,
dissenting).   “History,” she explained, “is consistent with common sense: it
demonstrates that legislatures have the power to prohibit dangerous people from
possessing guns.” Id. Judge Hardiman reached a similar conclusion: “the best
evidence we have indicates that the right to keep and bear arms was understood to
exclude those who presented a danger to the public.” Binderup v. Atty. Gen., 836
F.3d 336, 358 (3d Cir.2016) (Hardiman, J., concurring in part). See also Greenlee,
The Historical Justification for Prohibiting Dangerous Person from Possessing
Arms, 20 Wyo.L.Rev. 249, 286 (2020) (surveying the historical evidence from the
English tradition forward and concluding that “[h]istory shows that the right [to
bear arms] could be denied only to mitigate threats posed by dangerous persons”).
        {¶ 90} I will only endeavor to briefly summarize the comprehensive
historical materials relied upon by the two jurists here; interested readers will be far
better served to turn to the opinions in Kanter and Binderup.
        {¶ 91} The strongest evidence comes from debates and proposals at the state
ratifying conventions. At the Pennsylvania convention, antifederalists proposed
language preventing the government from disarming the people except for

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“ ‘crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals.’ ”
(Emphasis added in Binderup). Binderup at 367, quoting The Address and Reasons
of Dissent of the Minority of the Convention of Pennsylvania to their Constituents,
reprinted in 2 Schwartz, The Bill of Rights: A Documentary History 665 (1971). At
the Massachusetts convention, Samuel Adams proposed an amendment that would
have guaranteed the right to bear arms to the people of the United States “ ‘who are
peaceable citizens.’ ” (Emphasis in Binderup.) Id., quoting Journal of Convention:
Wednesday February 6, 1788, reprinted in Debates and Proceedings in the
Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Held in the Year 1788, at 86
(White 1856). At the time of the Massachusetts convention, “ ‘peaceable’ was
defined as ‘[f]ree from war; free from tumult’; ‘[q]uiet; undisturbed’; ‘[n]ot violent;
not bloody’; ‘[n]ot quarrelsome; not turbulent.’ ” Kanter at 455, quoting 1 Samuel
Johnson, A Dictionary of the English Language (5th ed.1773). And at the New
Hampshire convention, it was proposed that “Congress shall never disarm any
Citizen unless such as are or have been in Actual Rebellion.” Binderup at 367,
quoting 2 Schwartz at 761. “[T]aken together as evidence of the scope of founding-
era understandings * * * [t]he concern common to all three [proposals] * * * is
about threatened violence and the risk of public injury.” Kanter at 456, citing
Binderup at 368. See also Binderup at 367, citing Halbrook, The Founders’ Second
Amendment 190-215; id., quoting Halbrook at 196 (“surveying the debates at the
ratifying conventions and identifying the commonplace understanding that
‘dangerous persons could be disarmed’ ”).
       {¶ 92} Restrictions in place before and during the founding era further
support this understanding. Laws in place in 17th-century England allowed for the
disarming of people who were thought to pose a threat to public safety. Kanter at
456-457; Binderup at 368. And “[s]imilar laws and restrictions appeared in the
American colonies, adapted to the fears and threats of that time and place.” Kanter
at 457; Binderup at 368. Thus, Judge Barrett was able to conclude that “[i]n sum,

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founding-era legislatures categorically disarmed groups whom they judged to be a
threat to the public safety.” Kanter at 458. See also Marshall, 32 Harv.J.L. & Pub.
Pol’y at 727-728 (concluding after a survey of English and colonial law that the
right to bear arms was understood to be subject to restriction based upon “credible
grounds for fearing that a member of [a class] would, if armed, pose a genuine
present danger to others”); Churchill, Gun Regulation, the Police Power, and the
Right to Keep Arms in Early America: The Legal Context of the Second
Amendment, 25 Law & Hist.Rev. 139, 160 (2007) (classes of people thought by
colonial-era governments to pose a danger through their use of guns were placed
outside of the body politic entitled to the protection of the Second Amendment;
these groups included nonassociators who refused to pledge loyalty, slaves, and
Indians).
       {¶ 93} Moreover, even as to groups who were free from restrictions on the
ownership of guns, colonial-era legislatures still placed restrictions on uses of
weapons that posed a present danger to others. This is particularly relevant here
because what is at issue is not a restriction on Weber’s right to own a weapon but
on his right to use his weapon in a reckless manner that endangered others.
       {¶ 94} As early as the mid-1600s, Virginia had passed a law imposing a fine
on those who “shoot any guns at drinking.” Act of March 10, 1655, 1655 Va.Laws
401. Around the time of the founding, a Virginia law allowed the state to confiscate
the arms of those who “ride armed by night [or] by day, in fair or markets, or in
other places, in terror of the county.” An Act Forbidding and Punishing Affrays,
1786 Va.Laws 35. A New York ordinance prohibited the discharge of weapons “in
any street, lane or alley, garden or other inclosure, or from any house, or in any
other place where persons frequently walk.” An Act for the More Effectual
Prevention of Fires in the City of New York, 1761-1775 N.Y.Laws 548 (1769). A
1771 New Jersey law made it illegal to “set any loaded Gun in such Manner, as that
the same shall be intended to go off or discharge itself, or be discharged by any

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String, Rope or other Contrivance.” William Paterson, Laws of the State of New-
Jersey 21 (1800). And, in the mid-1700s, several cities, including Philadelphia,
New York, and Boston, prohibited the firing of weapons in the crowded cities
altogether. Churchill, 25 Law & Hist.Rev. at 162. Eventually, Pennsylvania and
New York extended this prohibition to all other towns. Id. Massachusetts and
Delaware barred the presence of armed assemblies in public places, and Delaware’s
prohibition explicitly included polling places.     An Act For Preventing And
Suppressing Of Riots, Routs And Unlawful Assemblies, 1750 Mass. Acts 333, 339;
Article XXVIII, Delaware Constitution (1776).
       {¶ 95} Regulations on the storage and transport of gunpowder were
expressly enacted for public safety. Cornell & DeDino, A Well Regulated Right:
The Early American Origins of Gun Control, 73 Fordham L.Rev. 487, 510-512
(2004). Statutes set limits on the amount of gunpowder that could be stored in
homes and dictated where and how it could be stored.              Id. at 511-512.
Pennsylvania, for example, mandated that gunpowder be stored on the top story of
homes in the borough of Carlisle. An Act for Erecting the Town of Carlisle, in the
County of Cumberland, into a Borough, Section XLII, 1781-1782 Pa.Laws 25.
Some laws restricted the storage of firearms themselves. In Massachusetts, storing
loaded firearms in a home in Boston was prohibited, and improper storage could
lead to forfeiture. An Act in Addition to the Several Acts Already Made for the
Prudent Storage of Gun-Powder within the Town of Boston, 1783 Mass.Acts 218.
In Heller, the majority found the existence of such laws did not justify a complete
ban on handguns, noting that such laws “do not remotely burden the right of self-
defense as much as an absolute ban on handguns.” 554 U.S. at 632, 128 S.Ct. 2783,
171 L.Ed.2d 637. But here the opposite is true. Forcing someone to keep his
gunpowder (or today, ammunition) away from his firearm would impose a far
greater burden on the right to self-defense than requiring Weber, who wasn’t acting
in self-defense, to refrain from handling his weapon until he sobered up.

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        {¶ 96} There is compelling evidence that in the founding era, the Second
Amendment would have been understood to allow disarming someone who posed
a present danger to others. Plainly, someone who is intoxicated and wields a
firearm falls into this category. There was a reason Weber’s wife felt it necessary
to call 9-1-1.
 2. Under a Rights-Based Approach, R.C. 2923.15 Is Consistent with the Second
                                    Amendment
        {¶ 97} Another way to approach the historical inquiry is by focusing on the
understanding of a right at the time of the Second Amendment’s enactment. Judge
Batchelder of the Sixth Circuit applied such an approach in her concurrence in Tyler
II, 837 F.3d 678, which explored the historical basis for restrictions on firearm
ownership by the mentally ill. I will only briefly summarize the extensive materials
that she relied upon here.
        {¶ 98} Because the Second Amendment protects “the right of the people to
keep and bear arms” (emphasis added), it is worthwhile to examine the 18th-century
understanding of the meaning of a right. At the time of the founding, “the idea of
right was intimately connected with the idea of reason, a term that referred not only
to the ‘faculty of the mind by which it distinguishes truth from falsehood [and]
enables the possessor to deduce inferences from facts or from propositions,’ but
also to the mind’s ability to distinguish ‘good from evil.’ ” (Brackets sic.) Tyler II
at 704-705 (Batchelder, J., concurring), quoting 2 Noah Webster, An American
Dictionary of the English Language (1828). Eighteenth-century theorists such as
John Locke, Jean Jacques Burlamqui, and James Wilson all drew close connections
between the exercise of a right and reason. Id. at 705. Locke, for example,
described man’s natural state, in which he enjoyed all of his natural rights, “as a
state of perfect freedom cabined only by ‘the law of nature,’ which he defined as
the rule ‘of reason and common equity, which is that measure God has set to the
actions of men, for their mutual security.’ ” (Emphasis deleted.) Id. at 705, quoting

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Locke, Two Treatises of Government (1691), reprinted in 4 Locke, The Works of
John Locke 207, 342 (12th ed.1824).
        {¶ 99} This understanding was widely accepted by the founding generation,
who believed that “rights could, in the central case, be exercised only by those
possessing reason.” Id. at 705; see also Mai v. United States, 974 F.3d 1082, 1089
(9th Cir.2020) (“influential philosophers of the [founding era] understood that
rights attach with the attainment of ‘reason’ and correspondingly, the loss of rights
persisted only through the loss of reason”) (Bumatay, J., dissenting from the denial
of rehearing en banc). Thus, insane persons or minors who had not obtained the
age of reason could not exercise all of their natural rights because they lacked the
reason by which to do so. Id. By the same token, “an insane person could not justly
be subjected to many of the obligations that corresponded to those rights, such as
criminal liability.” Id.
        {¶ 100} Similar logic applies to someone who is intoxicated. A person who
is intoxicated has a reduced ability to make reasoned judgments. And certainly,
that was the case here. Weber had glassy and bloodshot eyes, his speech was
slurred, and he was unable to stand without swaying. The deputy at the scene was
unable to administer the horizontal-gaze nystagmus test because Weber would not
follow directions. Weber seemed “confused” and was unable to supply a definite
answer to questions. Under the conception of the right held by the founders, Weber
could be deprived of his right until he sobered up because until that point, he was
not capable of reasonably exercising it.
        {¶ 101} There is, of course, nothing incompatible about the rights-based
approach to the historical evidence used by Judge Batchelder and the focus on
dangerousness employed by Judges Hardiman and Barrett.              There is strong
evidence that the founding generation believed that those who posed a present
danger to others fell outside of the Second Amendment’s protection. There is also
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right was closely connected to one’s use of reason. Under both understandings,
precluding someone who is presently intoxicated from using a firearm is perfectly
compatible within the original public meaning of the Second Amendment.
3. Legal Prohibitions in 18th- and 19th-Century America Relating to Alcohol and
  Firearms Further Demonstrate that the Application of R.C. 2923.15 Did Not
                    Violate Weber’s Second Amendment Rights
       {¶ 102} The explicit reference in Heller and McDonald to “presumptively
lawful” restrictions on felons and the mentally ill supports the constitutionality of
R.C. 2923.15. See Heller, 554 U.S. at 627, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637, fn.
26; McDonald, 561 U.S. at 786, 130 S.Ct. 3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894. So too does the
available evidence about the founding generation’s understanding of the scope of
the right to bear arms. The Heller court also endorsed consideration of “how the
Second Amendment was interpreted from immediately after its ratification through
the end of the 19th century.” Heller at 605. And while legislative enactments
dealing with drunken firearm use were not ubiquitous during that time period, the
available materials all support the notion that the right to bear arms does not
encompass an unconditional right to be drunk and handle a firearm.
       {¶ 103} The idea that the government may protect its citizens from the
dangers of drunks wielding firearms is backed up by history and tradition. In
addition to the materials cited in the previous section about disarming those who
posed a danger to others, there were also specific laws relating to guns and alcohol.
Virginia had early restrictions on firing guns while intoxicated and required
violators to forfeit 100 pounds of tobacco. Act of March 10, 1655, 1655 Va.Laws
401. Around the same time, a New York law explicitly recognized the “deplorable
accidents such as wounding” caused by the drunken firing of guns on New Year’s
and May Days and so prohibited the firing of guns on those days. Ordinance of
The Director General and Council of New Netherland to Prevent Firing Of Guns,
Planting May Poles and Other Irregularities Within This Province, 1665 N.Y. Laws

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205. And one suspects that alcohol was on the minds of legislators when the state
of Pennsylvania, in 1774, outlawed “wantonly, and without reasonable occasion,
discharg[ing] and fir[ing] off any hand-gun, pistol or other fire-arms” around the
New Year. An Act to Suppress the Disorderly Practice of Firing Guns, etc., on the
Times Therein Mentioned, 1759-1776 Pa.Acts 421, Section 1. So too when New
York, in 1785, prohibited firing guns entirely “on the eve of the last day of
December, and the first and second days of January” because, apparently, “great
dangers have arisen, and mischief been done.” An Act to Prevent the Firing of
Guns and other Fire Arms within this State on Certain Days Therein Mentioned,
1784-1785 N.Y. Laws 152.
       {¶ 104} The examples continue right through the beginning of the 20th
century. In Kansas, an 1868 statute prohibited any person “under the influence of
intoxicating drink * * * [from] carrying on his person a pistol, bowie-knife, dirk or
other deadly weapon.”      1868 Kan.Sess.Laws 66.        An 1883 Missouri statute
prohibited one from having or carrying “any such weapon upon or about his person
when intoxicated, or under the influence of intoxicating drinks.” State v. Shelby, 2
S.W. 468, 469 (Mo.1886). In Texas in 1871, a court rejected a constitutional
challenge in which the person had been convicted of carrying a firearm while
intoxicated. English v. State, 35 Tex. 473, 474-477, 480 (1871). And in Ohio in
1900, this court upheld a law aimed at disarming vagrants, explaining that if one
“employs those arms which he ought to wield for the safety and protection of his
country, his person, and his property, to the annoyance and terror and danger of its
citizens, his acts find no vindication in the bill of rights.” State v. Hogan, 63 Ohio
St. 202, 218-219, 58 N.E. 572 (1900).
       {¶ 105} Weber correctly points out that the founding generation drank a lot
of alcohol. But there was also a lot of regulation of drinking at the same time.
Indeed, alcohol and alcohol consumption was probably the most regulated subject
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throughout the colonies. Sismondo, America Walks into a Bar 11 (2011); Lender,
Drinking in America: A History 17 (1987). By the time of the founding, each
colony had “developed an extensive legal code to combat all aspects of liquor
violations.” Lender at 17. Drunkards were often heavily punished, receiving jail
time, fines, and even corporal punishment. Id. In Massachusetts, some of the worst
offenders were forced to wear the scarlet letter “D.” Id. Taverns—the vital center
of colonial towns—were heavily regulated in all states. Sismondo at 4, 15. In
Virginia after 1638, for example, “there was more law on the books regarding the
licensing of taverns than there was on ‘roads, land titles, care of the poor and
general law and order.’ ” Sismondo at 15.
       {¶ 106} Other laws more explicitly recognized the dangers intoxicated
individuals could pose. An 1817 Pennsylvania law, for example, mandated a
suspension of not less than one year for any pilot “intoxicated with drink,” “whilst
having charge of a ship or vessel.” A Supplement to the Act, entitled “An Act to
Establish a Board of Wardens for the Port of Philadelphia, for the Regulation of
Pilots and Pilotages, and for Other Purposes Therein Mentioned,” 1816 Pa.Laws
109. An 1854 statute made it a crime to “[w]ilfully furnish[] intoxicating drinks
* * * to any person of known intemperate habits, to a minor, or to an insane person”
or to “any person when drunk or intoxicated.” An Act to Protect Certain Domestic
and Private Rights, and Prevent Abuses in the Sale and Use of Intoxicating Drinks,
1854 Pa.Laws 663. During the 18th century in particular, governments were sure
to restrict the sale of alcohol to Indians and slaves, believing them to be especially
susceptible to violence when intoxicated. Lender at 21-29. Clearly, drunkenness
was understood to have adverse effects on society, and those viewed as dangerous
with alcohol were either prohibited from consuming it or were restricted from
partaking in other activities once intoxicated. Thus, members of the founding
generation would have found nothing incongruent about regulating one’s alcohol
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       {¶ 107} There is also no question that colonial Americans understood
intoxication could be grounds for the temporary suspension of one’s ability to
exercise a protected right. The Statutes of Ohio and the Northwestern Territory,
for example, provided that if “any person by being intoxicated, shall be found
making or exciting any noise, contention or disturbance, at any tavern, court,
election, or other meeting” that person could be fined or “imprisoned. ’till such
court, election or meeting is over.” Salmon P. Chase, Statutes of Ohio and of the
Northwestern Territory, Adopted or Enacted from 1788 to 1833 Inclusive: Together
with the Ordinance of 1787; the Constitutions of Ohio and of the United States, and
various Public Instruments and Acts of Congress 503 (1833). Similarly, an 1811
Maryland statute made it unlawful to supply “ ‘spirituous or fermented liquors * * *
on the day of any election hereafter to be held in the several counties of’ ”
Maryland. Cearfoss v. State, 42 Md. 403, 406 (1875) citing 1865 Md.Laws 361;
Dylan Lynch, Ballots and Beer: America’s Tipsy Relationship, (August 23, 2018),
https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2018/08/23/ballots-and-beer-americas-tipsy-
relationship.aspx (accessed Dec. 12. 2020) [https://perma.cc/8F3T-TAWM ]
(dating this prohibition to 1811). Simply because the right to vote and the right to
assemble were considered fundamental rights did not mean that the government
could not restrain someone from exercising those rights while they were
intoxicated.
       {¶ 108} To be sure, none of these laws exactly match the statute at issue
here. But there is no reason to insist that our current concerns need to match those
of the founding generation. What is important is whether under the original public
understanding of the Second Amendment, R.C. 2923.15 as applied to Weber
infringed upon constitutionally protected conduct. Text, history, and tradition all
demonstrate that it did not.

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                                  IV. Conclusion
       {¶ 109} The right to bear arms guaranteed by the Second Amendment and
the Ohio Constitution is entitled to this court’s full protection. It should not be
diminished through the use of an interest-balancing test that is unmindful of text,
history, and tradition. History and tradition, though, teach that the right did not
give license to Frederick Weber to endanger his wife by drunkenly wielding his
gun. Accordingly, I concur in the decision to uphold Weber’s conviction. But
because the lead opinion applies an intermediate-scrutiny standard that fails to
afford the Second Amendment right the protection it is due, I concur only in its
judgment.
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       FISCHER, J., dissenting.
       {¶ 110} In this case, we are asked to decide whether the application of R.C.
2923.15(A) to a defendant charged with carrying a firearm in his home while under
the influence of alcohol is unconstitutional in light of the Second Amendment to
the United States Constitution. We are also asked to decide what the appropriate
method of review is in such a case.
       {¶ 111} The answer to the latter of these questions is that laws and
regulations challenged under the Second Amendment must be judged according to
the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment. Because that was not the
standard applied below, there is no need to go any further in the analysis, and this
cause should be remanded to the Twelfth District Court of Appeals for further
proceedings on the constitutionality of R.C. 2923.15 under that test. Because the
court does otherwise, I respectfully dissent.
                               I. BACKGROUND
       {¶ 112} The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution provides
that “[a] well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the
right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” R.C. 2923.15

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makes it a misdemeanor for a person under the influence of alcohol or drugs to
“carry or use any firearm or dangerous ordnance.”
       {¶ 113} Appellee, the state of Ohio, charged appellant, Fred Weber, with
violating R.C. 2923.15. It is undisputed that Weber was both under the influence
of alcohol and carrying a shotgun when the deputy sheriffs responding to his wife’s
9-1-1 call arrived on the scene. What is at issue then is whether his conduct was
protected by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, which
applies fully in this state. McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742, 791, 130 S.Ct.
3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894 (2010).
       {¶ 114} At his bench trial, Weber unsuccessfully argued that criminalizing
the act of holding a firearm while under the influence of alcohol is unconstitutional
when that conduct occurs entirely inside the home. Following his conviction,
Weber raised that same argument on appeal. 2019-Ohio-916, 132 N.E.3d 1140,
¶ 10-11. Like the trial court, the Twelfth District Court of Appeals found Weber’s
constitutionality argument unpersuasive. Specifically, after applying intermediate
scrutiny, the Twelfth District held that R.C. 2923.15 does not violate a person’s
constitutional right to keep and bear arms because the law is “narrowly tailored to
serve the significant government interest of guarding public safety and leaves open
alternate means of exercising the fundamental right to bear arms.” Id. at ¶ 27.
       {¶ 115} After the Twelfth District issued its decision, we accepted Weber’s
discretionary appeal. See 156 Ohio St.3d 1452, 2019-Ohio-2780, 125 N.E.3d 941.
                                 II. ANALYSIS
                               A. Method of Review
       {¶ 116} Because Weber challenged the validity of applying R.C. 2923.15
to the facts of his case under the Second Amendment, we must first decide what
method of review is appropriate when a court in this state is tasked with considering
a challenge to a law or regulation on the grounds that it violates the Second
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       {¶ 117} Before answering that question, it is useful to examine why that
question is now before us as well as why that question is a difficult one to answer.
Following the United States Supreme Court’s decisions in District of Columbia v.
Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637 (2008), and McDonald, 561
U.S. 742, 130 S.Ct. 3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894, judges across the federal-court system
have been in open disagreement with one another on what the appropriate method
of review is in Second Amendment cases. The predominant approach is to utilize
a convoluted interest-balancing test in which one level of scrutiny gets applied in
some cases and another level of scrutiny gets applied in others. See, e.g., United
States v. Marzzarella, 614 F.3d 85, 89 (3d Cir.2010); United States v. Chester, 628
F.3d 673, 680 (4th Cir.2010); United States v. Reese, 627 F.3d 792, 800-801 (10th
Cir.2010); Ezell v. Chicago, 651 F.3d 684, 701-703 (7th Cir.2011); United States
v. Greeno, 679 F.3d 510, 518 (6th Cir.2012). At the same time, a not insignificant
number of judges have criticized that test, arguing instead that the proper approach
in these cases is to look at the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment.
See, e.g., Kanter v. Barr, 919 F.3d 437, 451-453 (7th Cir.2019) (Barrett, J.,
dissenting); Tyler v. Hillsdale Cty. Sheriff’s Dept., 837 F.3d 678, 702 (6th Cir.2016)
(en banc) (Batchelder, J., concurring in part and concurring in judgment); Binderup
v. Atty. Gen., 836 F.3d 336, 367 (3d Cir.2016) (en banc) (Hardiman, J., concurring
in part and concurring in judgment); Heller v. District of Columbia, 670 F.3d 1244,
1272-1273 (D.C.Cir.2011) (Kavanaugh, J., dissenting).
       {¶ 118} The parties in this case, perhaps due to the confusion in this area,
each ask us to apply a different level of scrutiny. The lead opinion heeds that call
and adopts the interest-balancing test created by the federal courts. Consistent with
the United States Supreme Court’s decisions in Heller and McDonald, however, I
would not adopt such a test. Instead, I would hold that the appropriate inquiry is to

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evaluate the challenged law or regulation according to the text, history, and
tradition of the Second Amendment.4
         {¶ 119} In Heller, the court notably did not employ an interest-balancing
test when faced with a Second Amendment challenge. Rather, the court resolved
that case by focusing on the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment.
For example, the court started by conducting an extensive analysis of the text of the
Second Amendment, 554 U.S. at 582-591, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637, which
it found protected the right of a citizen to have and to carry weapons in case of
confrontation, id. at 592. The court went on to confirm its interpretation of the text
by looking at the history and tradition of the right. Id. at 592-619. Specifically, the
court considered the right’s English roots, id. at 592-594, the understanding of the
right in colonial America, id. at 594, analogous provisions in state constitutions that
were adopted following the Declaration of Independence, id. at 600-603,
postratification commentaries from “founding-era legal scholars,” id. at 605-610,
early-American case law, id. at 610-614, and 19th-century laws and commentaries,
id. at 614-619, which the court found “instructive” of “the origins and continuing
significance of the Amendment,” id. at 614. The court then concluded by noting
that the right was not unlimited and that regulations and restrictions were
permissible, so long as there were historical justifications for those regulations and
restrictions. Id. at 626-635.

4. It is worth stating here that deciding this case would have been much simpler if this court had
only had more guidance in this area. Hopefully, upon seeing the scores of pages that this court has
added to the subject today, the United States Supreme Court will consider this issue and will provide
some much-needed clarity on how to approach a challenge to a law or regulation under the Second
Amendment.

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       {¶ 120} Collectively, from start to finish, the approach in Heller suggests
that the proper method of review in Second Amendment cases is to look at the text,
history, and tradition of the Second Amendment to see if the challenged law or rule
is consistent with the scope of the right as originally understood. See id. at 634-
635 (“Constitutional rights are enshrined with the scope they were understood to
have when the people adopted them * * *”).
       {¶ 121} In McDonald, the court employed a similar methodology to decide
that the right to keep and bear arms is applicable to the states under the Fourteenth
Amendment. 561 U.S. 742, 130 S.Ct. 3020, 177 L.Ed.2d 894 (2010). In doing so,
a plurality of the court stated that Heller should be understood as rejecting an
interest-balancing test in favor of an approach that focuses on the original
understanding of the Second Amendment. McDonald at 785.
       {¶ 122} The benefit of the Heller and McDonald approach is that while
“[h]istorical analysis can be difficult,” McDonald at 803 (Scalia, J., concurring),
looking at the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment when deciding
a constitutional challenge under that provision is far more consistent with our
system of government and the judiciary’s role in that system than simply applying
an interesting-balancing test. After all, “the Constitution cannot secure the people’s
liberty any less today than it did the day it was ratified,” Oil States Energy Servs.,
L.L.C. v. Greene’s Energy Group, L.L.C., ___ U.S.___, ___ 138 S.Ct. 1365, 1381,
200 L.Ed.2d 671 (2018) (Gorsuch, J., dissenting), and it is up to us as judges to
ensure that is so. The Federalist No. 78 at 467-470 (Alexander Hamilton) (Clinton
Rossiter Ed.1961).
       {¶ 123} Consequently, following Heller and McDonald, to determine
whether an Ohio law or regulation is constitutional under the Second Amendment,
I would look to the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment to see if
the challenged law or rule is consistent with the original understanding of the
Second Amendment and is thus constitutional. In other words, I would let the

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original understanding of the scope of the right inform the government’s ability to
restrict a person’s right to keep and bear arms.
                     B. Remand for Application to R.C. 2923.15
           {¶ 124} Because the court below applied a different method of review, I
would decline to answer whether R.C. 2923.15 is constitutional, and I would
reverse and remand the cause to the court of appeals for further proceedings on that
issue.
           {¶ 125} Giving the parties the chance to brief and argue this question
through the adversarial process is both fair and wise. First, doing so would prevent
the parties from being penalized simply because there previously was not a clear
method of review in these types of cases. Next, doing so would also help to ensure
that the right result, one way or the other, is eventually reached in this case.
Reaching the correct result is especially important here because we are dealing with
the constitutionality of a law passed by the General Assembly and an individual’s
liberty.
           {¶ 126} Of course, given the scant briefing done by Weber’s lawyers here,
it is worth reminding both parties that under this approach, each side would need to
marshal significant historical evidence in support of their understanding of the
Second Amendment. It is not enough to simply claim that the existence of a right
invalidates an otherwise presumptively valid law. Likewise, it is not enough to rest
solely on the fact that laws passed by the General Assembly are presumptively
valid. Instead, the parties must show their work and explain, with the help of
support, why the law in question is or is not constitutional.
           {¶ 127} Another word of caution is appropriate here about some language
in Heller that has given courts and litigants alike some trouble over the years.
Toward the end of Heller, the court stated that its decision was limited to the law
before it and was not intended to cast doubt on any other restrictions, including
“prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws

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forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and
government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the
commercial sale of arms.” 554 U.S. at 626-627, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637.
A number of courts, including this court and the court of appeals in this case, have
used that language as a shortcut to upholding other laws challenged under the
Second Amendment. That very clearly was not the point of that passage, however.
In fact, as mentioned above, the court in Heller was quite explicit that the validity
of those and other restrictions should be evaluated in future cases based on the text,
history, and tradition of the Second Amendment. Id. at 635. So, rather than
validating any of the restrictions mentioned by the court, Heller’s commentary on
those restrictions is essentially dicta. United States v. Skoien, 614 F.3d 638, 640
(7th Cir.2010); see also Cohens v. Virginia, 19 U.S. 264, 399, 5 L.Ed. 257 (1821)
(if general expressions in an opinion go beyond the case, “they may be respected,
but ought not to control the judgment in a subsequent suit when the very point is
presented for decision”). Courts and litigants should therefore exercise caution
before relying on that language in Heller and should still focus on the text of the
Second Amendment and the applicable history and tradition of the right.
       {¶ 128} Accordingly, with the preceding in mind, I would remand the cause
to the court of appeals for further proceedings on whether R.C. 2923.15 is
unconstitutional as applied in this case. On remand, I would expect the court and
the parties to rely on the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment to
answer that question.
                               III. CONCLUSION
       {¶ 129} For the reasons stated above, I would reverse the judgment of
Twelfth District Court of Appeals and remand this cause to that court for further
proceedings. Because the court does differently, I respectfully dissent.
       KENNEDY and FRENCH, JJ., concur in the foregoing opinion.
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       D. Vincent Faris, Clermont County Prosecuting Attorney, and Nick Horton,
Assistant Prosecuting Attorney, for appellee.
       Gary A. Rosenhoffer, for appellant.
       Jones Day, Yvette McGee Brown, and Benjamin C. Mizer, urging
affirmance for amici curiae Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence and
Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
       Zach Klein, Columbus City Attorney, and Charles P. Campisano, Assistant
City Attorney; and Every Town Law, Eric Tirschwell, Mark Anthony Frasseto, and
Krystan Hitchcock, urging affirmance for amicus curiae city of Columbus.
       Paula Boggs Muething, Cincinnati City Solicitor, and Emily Smart Woerner
and Jacklyn Gonzales Martin, Assistant City Solicitors, urging affirmance for
amicus curiae city of Cincinnati.
       Eve V. Belfance, Akron Director of Law, urging affirmance for amicus
curiae city of Akron.
       Barbara Doseck, Dayton City Attorney, and John C. Musto, Assistant City
Attorney, urging affirmance for amicus curiae city of Dayton.
       Anthony L. Geiger, Lima Law Director, urging affirmance for amicus
curiae city of Lima.
       Dale R. Emch, Toledo Director of Law, urging affirmance for amicus curiae
city of Toledo.
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