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My sister (38f) took her bearded dragon (1yr) to a reptile boarding in Southern CA and was returned nearly fried, and near death. What can we do? From March 9 - 24 2020, my sister boarded her bearded dragon at a reptile shop in Southern California which We found on google and had good reviews. When my sister dropped it off on the 9th she gave careful instructions on the dragons diet and bathing schedule. She saw that the cage was much smaller than she anticipated but didn’t want to worry being that it is a “specialty” shop with high reviews. During her visit in Australia, we called the reptile place to request a status update and a photo. However, we never got the photos. But we didn’t let this worry us as CVOID-19 was changing a lot of things and shops were closing down. When my sister returned back to Los Angeles, she was asked to pick up her dragon the following day March 25. On the 25th when she picked up her dragon she saw that it had its eyes closed but didn’t think much of it until she got home. Her dragon was showing extreme lethargy and closed eyes. I had my sister watch it overnight to see if there were any improvements. The following day, she took the dragon to the vet which they had to provide care overnight. During this period I called the boarding and I told them that the dragon under their care had to be held overnight in the hospital. When I called I said “I need to know the care you provided because my sisters dragon is being hospitalized”. I tried recording the conversation but my app didn’t work. During this conversation the man yelled at me and said that “the vets don’t know shit”, “they want money”, “they don’t know how I care for my animals”, “I fed, bathe and we sent photos” “I gave him mill worms”. I knew then that my sister told them specifically not to feed it mill worms because it didn’t sit well with the dragon and then I proceeded to say “I’m not calling to argue, I need to know how you cared for it so I can tell the vet, can I also get the photos you said you sent to my sister to see the time stamp” he then said he couldn’t get a hold of them and said I’ll need to call back. The vet report came back and said “gravid lethargy (suspect secondary to inappropriate husbandry while boarding).” The vet also said that it had a bacterial infection which is caused by dirty conditions. The final bill was $1295! The vet recommended for us to report it to the BBB. We want to take action but not sure what to do or how to do it. Do we have something here? I don’t think a google review is sufficient. TL:DR - sister’s dragon nearly died. Has a long recovery. Vet confirmed it’s from poor boarding conditions.
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If you're in California recording phone calls remember that, by law, you MUST notify the other party that you're recording.
> I tried recording the conversation but my app didn’t work. I have nothing to add about this situation at large, but be careful with recording conversations in CA. You must make them aware you are doing so before recording anything.
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My sister (38f) took her bearded dragon (1yr) to a reptile boarding in Southern CA and was returned nearly fried, and near death. What can we do? From March 9 - 24 2020, my sister boarded her bearded dragon at a reptile shop in Southern California which We found on google and had good reviews. When my sister dropped it off on the 9th she gave careful instructions on the dragons diet and bathing schedule. She saw that the cage was much smaller than she anticipated but didn’t want to worry being that it is a “specialty” shop with high reviews. During her visit in Australia, we called the reptile place to request a status update and a photo. However, we never got the photos. But we didn’t let this worry us as CVOID-19 was changing a lot of things and shops were closing down. When my sister returned back to Los Angeles, she was asked to pick up her dragon the following day March 25. On the 25th when she picked up her dragon she saw that it had its eyes closed but didn’t think much of it until she got home. Her dragon was showing extreme lethargy and closed eyes. I had my sister watch it overnight to see if there were any improvements. The following day, she took the dragon to the vet which they had to provide care overnight. During this period I called the boarding and I told them that the dragon under their care had to be held overnight in the hospital. When I called I said “I need to know the care you provided because my sisters dragon is being hospitalized”. I tried recording the conversation but my app didn’t work. During this conversation the man yelled at me and said that “the vets don’t know shit”, “they want money”, “they don’t know how I care for my animals”, “I fed, bathe and we sent photos” “I gave him mill worms”. I knew then that my sister told them specifically not to feed it mill worms because it didn’t sit well with the dragon and then I proceeded to say “I’m not calling to argue, I need to know how you cared for it so I can tell the vet, can I also get the photos you said you sent to my sister to see the time stamp” he then said he couldn’t get a hold of them and said I’ll need to call back. The vet report came back and said “gravid lethargy (suspect secondary to inappropriate husbandry while boarding).” The vet also said that it had a bacterial infection which is caused by dirty conditions. The final bill was $1295! The vet recommended for us to report it to the BBB. We want to take action but not sure what to do or how to do it. Do we have something here? I don’t think a google review is sufficient. TL:DR - sister’s dragon nearly died. Has a long recovery. Vet confirmed it’s from poor boarding conditions.
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Obviously leave as many reviews online as you can. You can likely take this company to court for neglect. Serving the owner or collecting payment is another story. I’m sorry that happened to your pet. I hope the poor little guy recovers.
If you're in California recording phone calls remember that, by law, you MUST notify the other party that you're recording.
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My sister (38f) took her bearded dragon (1yr) to a reptile boarding in Southern CA and was returned nearly fried, and near death. What can we do? From March 9 - 24 2020, my sister boarded her bearded dragon at a reptile shop in Southern California which We found on google and had good reviews. When my sister dropped it off on the 9th she gave careful instructions on the dragons diet and bathing schedule. She saw that the cage was much smaller than she anticipated but didn’t want to worry being that it is a “specialty” shop with high reviews. During her visit in Australia, we called the reptile place to request a status update and a photo. However, we never got the photos. But we didn’t let this worry us as CVOID-19 was changing a lot of things and shops were closing down. When my sister returned back to Los Angeles, she was asked to pick up her dragon the following day March 25. On the 25th when she picked up her dragon she saw that it had its eyes closed but didn’t think much of it until she got home. Her dragon was showing extreme lethargy and closed eyes. I had my sister watch it overnight to see if there were any improvements. The following day, she took the dragon to the vet which they had to provide care overnight. During this period I called the boarding and I told them that the dragon under their care had to be held overnight in the hospital. When I called I said “I need to know the care you provided because my sisters dragon is being hospitalized”. I tried recording the conversation but my app didn’t work. During this conversation the man yelled at me and said that “the vets don’t know shit”, “they want money”, “they don’t know how I care for my animals”, “I fed, bathe and we sent photos” “I gave him mill worms”. I knew then that my sister told them specifically not to feed it mill worms because it didn’t sit well with the dragon and then I proceeded to say “I’m not calling to argue, I need to know how you cared for it so I can tell the vet, can I also get the photos you said you sent to my sister to see the time stamp” he then said he couldn’t get a hold of them and said I’ll need to call back. The vet report came back and said “gravid lethargy (suspect secondary to inappropriate husbandry while boarding).” The vet also said that it had a bacterial infection which is caused by dirty conditions. The final bill was $1295! The vet recommended for us to report it to the BBB. We want to take action but not sure what to do or how to do it. Do we have something here? I don’t think a google review is sufficient. TL:DR - sister’s dragon nearly died. Has a long recovery. Vet confirmed it’s from poor boarding conditions.
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> I tried recording the conversation but my app didn’t work. I have nothing to add about this situation at large, but be careful with recording conversations in CA. You must make them aware you are doing so before recording anything.
Obviously leave as many reviews online as you can. You can likely take this company to court for neglect. Serving the owner or collecting payment is another story. I’m sorry that happened to your pet. I hope the poor little guy recovers.
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My sister (38f) took her bearded dragon (1yr) to a reptile boarding in Southern CA and was returned nearly fried, and near death. What can we do? From March 9 - 24 2020, my sister boarded her bearded dragon at a reptile shop in Southern California which We found on google and had good reviews. When my sister dropped it off on the 9th she gave careful instructions on the dragons diet and bathing schedule. She saw that the cage was much smaller than she anticipated but didn’t want to worry being that it is a “specialty” shop with high reviews. During her visit in Australia, we called the reptile place to request a status update and a photo. However, we never got the photos. But we didn’t let this worry us as CVOID-19 was changing a lot of things and shops were closing down. When my sister returned back to Los Angeles, she was asked to pick up her dragon the following day March 25. On the 25th when she picked up her dragon she saw that it had its eyes closed but didn’t think much of it until she got home. Her dragon was showing extreme lethargy and closed eyes. I had my sister watch it overnight to see if there were any improvements. The following day, she took the dragon to the vet which they had to provide care overnight. During this period I called the boarding and I told them that the dragon under their care had to be held overnight in the hospital. When I called I said “I need to know the care you provided because my sisters dragon is being hospitalized”. I tried recording the conversation but my app didn’t work. During this conversation the man yelled at me and said that “the vets don’t know shit”, “they want money”, “they don’t know how I care for my animals”, “I fed, bathe and we sent photos” “I gave him mill worms”. I knew then that my sister told them specifically not to feed it mill worms because it didn’t sit well with the dragon and then I proceeded to say “I’m not calling to argue, I need to know how you cared for it so I can tell the vet, can I also get the photos you said you sent to my sister to see the time stamp” he then said he couldn’t get a hold of them and said I’ll need to call back. The vet report came back and said “gravid lethargy (suspect secondary to inappropriate husbandry while boarding).” The vet also said that it had a bacterial infection which is caused by dirty conditions. The final bill was $1295! The vet recommended for us to report it to the BBB. We want to take action but not sure what to do or how to do it. Do we have something here? I don’t think a google review is sufficient. TL:DR - sister’s dragon nearly died. Has a long recovery. Vet confirmed it’s from poor boarding conditions.
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Sent a letter demanding they pay the vet fee’s and a refund and state a specific period of time they have to respond within 7 business days for example. Sent it to them by Post with a confirmation of delivery. Say that if they dont respond or agree you will file a legal report. They will highly likely ignore your letter and you should start an appeal. Scumbags man
Obviously leave as many reviews online as you can. You can likely take this company to court for neglect. Serving the owner or collecting payment is another story. I’m sorry that happened to your pet. I hope the poor little guy recovers.
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My puppy was neglected by the boarding service I used and was returned to me in extremely poor health. I signed an agreement with them and need advice. http://imgur.com/a/Mo46e My wife was hospitalized and I had to board the dog because I had to work and wanted to be with my wife when I could. So, I ended up boarding him at this place for three days (2 nights). I had signed the above document like 6 months ago when I was taking him their for daycare for a few days before I ended up switching to a different place. When I went to pick up my dog the person working their handed him to me and I carried him to the car, then when we got home and it was time for him to walk into the house he could barely move and I noticed his eye was swollen shut, all 4 of his paws were bloody and red and had discharge... I called the Emergency Vet and they said it could probably wait until morning... Took him in the next day and he had infections in all 4 of his paws and his eye was more or less OK but he needed ointment for it. A week later he still is still limping and still has wounds on his paws. I'm going to have to take him back to the vet again... It is possible he will need surgery was he may have a foreign object in-bedded in his paw. But as you can imagine with my wife being hospitalized and me taking a couple days off, boarding the dog, vet bills, etc etc... This is causing a serious financial burden for us. I'm basically hoping that there is some way I can still take this to small claims... Or that because they list their services at the bottom of the agreement and "dog boarding" isn't included that that may not be included under the "activities" mentioned in the agreement. I did talk to the owner who didn't even apologize, basically told me shit happens and then hung up. The other thing I am curious about is the non-disparagement part... I am wondering if I can word a yelp/google review in such a way as to not violate that... I don't want this happening to other people. I just realized that I don't know what is listed on the agreement that I actually signed under "activity" "dates(s) of activity)" and "location" but almost certainly nothing like "boarding" and any date near this one because I signed that thing specifically for doggy daycare sometime last year. Any advice is appreciated... All I want is fair compensation for the injury to my dog and I want to prevent this from happening to other animals. I would have been happy if they had just told me my dog was getting sick/was injured there because I would have taken him to the vet earlier or picked him up earlier... Thank you.
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I don't think non-disparagement clauses like that hold up. They're basically saying you can't even talk about this to a judge or jury. We had a similar case in Texas and it was thrown out (prestigious pets). There may be some information in my link on their legitimacy. I'm not very familiar with the bill so read through it. To my understanding these types of clauses are meant for employment contracts and not small businesses and customer relations. I'd be surprised if a state like WA allowed this (they're banned in CA). You can certainly file in small claims. I'd argue your point about the contract, information from your vet on why this happened (unsanitary conditions, bacteria, foreign objects in paws, lack of cleaning, etc), failure to mitigate your damages by ignoring his injuries. I can't say you'd win but my company has a contract stating what you can't sue us for and we get sued for them all the time (and often settle). https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr5111/text
What did they say when you asked how all 4 paws got infected?
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My puppy was neglected by the boarding service I used and was returned to me in extremely poor health. I signed an agreement with them and need advice. http://imgur.com/a/Mo46e My wife was hospitalized and I had to board the dog because I had to work and wanted to be with my wife when I could. So, I ended up boarding him at this place for three days (2 nights). I had signed the above document like 6 months ago when I was taking him their for daycare for a few days before I ended up switching to a different place. When I went to pick up my dog the person working their handed him to me and I carried him to the car, then when we got home and it was time for him to walk into the house he could barely move and I noticed his eye was swollen shut, all 4 of his paws were bloody and red and had discharge... I called the Emergency Vet and they said it could probably wait until morning... Took him in the next day and he had infections in all 4 of his paws and his eye was more or less OK but he needed ointment for it. A week later he still is still limping and still has wounds on his paws. I'm going to have to take him back to the vet again... It is possible he will need surgery was he may have a foreign object in-bedded in his paw. But as you can imagine with my wife being hospitalized and me taking a couple days off, boarding the dog, vet bills, etc etc... This is causing a serious financial burden for us. I'm basically hoping that there is some way I can still take this to small claims... Or that because they list their services at the bottom of the agreement and "dog boarding" isn't included that that may not be included under the "activities" mentioned in the agreement. I did talk to the owner who didn't even apologize, basically told me shit happens and then hung up. The other thing I am curious about is the non-disparagement part... I am wondering if I can word a yelp/google review in such a way as to not violate that... I don't want this happening to other people. I just realized that I don't know what is listed on the agreement that I actually signed under "activity" "dates(s) of activity)" and "location" but almost certainly nothing like "boarding" and any date near this one because I signed that thing specifically for doggy daycare sometime last year. Any advice is appreciated... All I want is fair compensation for the injury to my dog and I want to prevent this from happening to other animals. I would have been happy if they had just told me my dog was getting sick/was injured there because I would have taken him to the vet earlier or picked him up earlier... Thank you.
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What did they say when you asked how all 4 paws got infected?
I am not a lawyer but many times I've seen in this sub that waivers of liability do not cover negligence. If it were shown that you hired them to provide basic care for your dog, they were definitely negligent in providing that care, and you incurred bills as a result of their negligence, I would be quite surprised if they were not responsible for paying those bills.
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Porter at dealership took me (as customer) to his house instead of giving me a ride to work as promised upon return of rental car. Can I sue the dealership? ## Can I sue dealership if their porter who was to give me a courtesy ride to work after returning their rental car took me against my will to his home instead, took my cell phone from me so I couldn't call work or for help, punched me in the face, etc. and terrorized me while I was in the truck and couldn't leave for 2 hours for not creating a safe environment for customers or ____ ???? The employee is a convicted felon of drugs and a type of battery. I almost got fired over this. I filed a statement with Sherriff's Dept right after it happened and they took pictures. The employee was supposed to be at his job at the dealership during the time he abducted me. Can I sue Dealership?
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Assuming the employer negligently hired or supervised this employee, yes. Merely being a convicted felon doesn't it make it a slam dunk case though, you have to show evidence knew he had some type of tendency to cause this and they allowed it to happen by hiring him because this isn't going to be one of those situations where the employer is automatically responsible for the actions of their employee. This wasn't mere a frolic or detour debate. The employee went completely off the rails.
Short answer. Yes you have a lawsuit against his employer. Whether you will be successful will depend on whether they were negligent in hiring him. What they knew about his criminal background etc. It’s also a criminal matter for kidnapping and battery. How long ago did this happen?
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Porter at dealership took me (as customer) to his house instead of giving me a ride to work as promised upon return of rental car. Can I sue the dealership? ## Can I sue dealership if their porter who was to give me a courtesy ride to work after returning their rental car took me against my will to his home instead, took my cell phone from me so I couldn't call work or for help, punched me in the face, etc. and terrorized me while I was in the truck and couldn't leave for 2 hours for not creating a safe environment for customers or ____ ???? The employee is a convicted felon of drugs and a type of battery. I almost got fired over this. I filed a statement with Sherriff's Dept right after it happened and they took pictures. The employee was supposed to be at his job at the dealership during the time he abducted me. Can I sue Dealership?
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Short answer. Yes you have a lawsuit against his employer. Whether you will be successful will depend on whether they were negligent in hiring him. What they knew about his criminal background etc. It’s also a criminal matter for kidnapping and battery. How long ago did this happen?
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Porter at dealership took me (as customer) to his house instead of giving me a ride to work as promised upon return of rental car. Can I sue the dealership? ## Can I sue dealership if their porter who was to give me a courtesy ride to work after returning their rental car took me against my will to his home instead, took my cell phone from me so I couldn't call work or for help, punched me in the face, etc. and terrorized me while I was in the truck and couldn't leave for 2 hours for not creating a safe environment for customers or ____ ???? The employee is a convicted felon of drugs and a type of battery. I almost got fired over this. I filed a statement with Sherriff's Dept right after it happened and they took pictures. The employee was supposed to be at his job at the dealership during the time he abducted me. Can I sue Dealership?
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Assuming the employer negligently hired or supervised this employee, yes. Merely being a convicted felon doesn't it make it a slam dunk case though, you have to show evidence knew he had some type of tendency to cause this and they allowed it to happen by hiring him because this isn't going to be one of those situations where the employer is automatically responsible for the actions of their employee. This wasn't mere a frolic or detour debate. The employee went completely off the rails.
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Rental Car Company claiming "significant" damage, 3 days after I returned the vehicle and did a clean walk around. How do I proceed? Hello, I rented a car from Avis, in downtown Baltimore, drove it straight to Newark, NJ. I had the car for a total of a few hours and drove it without incident. After I returned the car, the rental agent did a walk around with me, which was also without incident - gave me a receipt and sent me on my way. 3 days later, I got a phone call from someone at Avis in Newark saying that there was "significant" body damage to the car and that a claim will be started. It is absolutely impossible that damage occurred to the car during my rental so I disputed it. I stated that if the damage is so significant, how could they have me go on my way and then call me 3 days later. How do I know what happened to the car in those 3 days? The Avis representative stated that he was just telling me that a claim will be started and Avis will be looking into it and may or may not reach out to me. 3 weeks went by and Avis never reached out to me so I figured it was resolved somehow. Today, I got a call from the 3rd party that handles Avis's claims billing and told me that I was responsible for roughly $1000 of damages to the car. I told them the story and how Avis never even reached out to me. So they sent me the documentation but I firmly disputed it again. So as of now, they have said that since they're a third party, all they can do is get back to Avis with my comments & that I'm refusing to pay. How can this be dealt with? I am 100% certain that I did not hit the car anywhere even slightly, let alone to cause "significant" body damage.
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You have your copy of the return receipt, signed by their agent, that shows it in non-damaged condition, right?
Auto insurance adjuster here: They probably already filed the claim with your insurance. Contact your insurance company and tell them that you were sent a bill. Let your insurance company handle it, that's what you pay them for. Your insurance company will ask you what happened and tell them exactly what you posted here. Your insurance company will likely deny their claim and that's it. Third party companies that work for rental companies are notorious for this. They send bills to everyone involved in the claim hoping someone will pay it. Believe it or not clerical errors of businesses paying things they don't owe happen all the time. It's Avis's burden of proof that the damage occurred while you were the renter of the vehicle. If what you said was all true then they can't prove that you returned the car with damage since they waited 3 days to call you.
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Rental Car Company claiming "significant" damage, 3 days after I returned the vehicle and did a clean walk around. How do I proceed? Hello, I rented a car from Avis, in downtown Baltimore, drove it straight to Newark, NJ. I had the car for a total of a few hours and drove it without incident. After I returned the car, the rental agent did a walk around with me, which was also without incident - gave me a receipt and sent me on my way. 3 days later, I got a phone call from someone at Avis in Newark saying that there was "significant" body damage to the car and that a claim will be started. It is absolutely impossible that damage occurred to the car during my rental so I disputed it. I stated that if the damage is so significant, how could they have me go on my way and then call me 3 days later. How do I know what happened to the car in those 3 days? The Avis representative stated that he was just telling me that a claim will be started and Avis will be looking into it and may or may not reach out to me. 3 weeks went by and Avis never reached out to me so I figured it was resolved somehow. Today, I got a call from the 3rd party that handles Avis's claims billing and told me that I was responsible for roughly $1000 of damages to the car. I told them the story and how Avis never even reached out to me. So they sent me the documentation but I firmly disputed it again. So as of now, they have said that since they're a third party, all they can do is get back to Avis with my comments & that I'm refusing to pay. How can this be dealt with? I am 100% certain that I did not hit the car anywhere even slightly, let alone to cause "significant" body damage.
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Had the same thing occur with Enterprise. Called and called and called and finally got an escalation department with claims. Told them my story and they said they would get back to me. They called a few days later and said there was an already existing claim from prior renter of that vehicle and they would drop my claim. Keep fighting them!
Pro tip for future renters: At pickup and drop off take 5 pictures of your car. Front, both sides, back, and a picture of the entire car with the rental office, signs, lot, etc etc in the picture/background. If you want to have more documentation, enable geo-tagging on the pictures.
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Rental Car Company claiming "significant" damage, 3 days after I returned the vehicle and did a clean walk around. How do I proceed? Hello, I rented a car from Avis, in downtown Baltimore, drove it straight to Newark, NJ. I had the car for a total of a few hours and drove it without incident. After I returned the car, the rental agent did a walk around with me, which was also without incident - gave me a receipt and sent me on my way. 3 days later, I got a phone call from someone at Avis in Newark saying that there was "significant" body damage to the car and that a claim will be started. It is absolutely impossible that damage occurred to the car during my rental so I disputed it. I stated that if the damage is so significant, how could they have me go on my way and then call me 3 days later. How do I know what happened to the car in those 3 days? The Avis representative stated that he was just telling me that a claim will be started and Avis will be looking into it and may or may not reach out to me. 3 weeks went by and Avis never reached out to me so I figured it was resolved somehow. Today, I got a call from the 3rd party that handles Avis's claims billing and told me that I was responsible for roughly $1000 of damages to the car. I told them the story and how Avis never even reached out to me. So they sent me the documentation but I firmly disputed it again. So as of now, they have said that since they're a third party, all they can do is get back to Avis with my comments & that I'm refusing to pay. How can this be dealt with? I am 100% certain that I did not hit the car anywhere even slightly, let alone to cause "significant" body damage.
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Pro tip for future renters: At pickup and drop off take 5 pictures of your car. Front, both sides, back, and a picture of the entire car with the rental office, signs, lot, etc etc in the picture/background. If you want to have more documentation, enable geo-tagging on the pictures.
Avis will likely set up a claim on your policy for you. If you haven't heard from your insurance company then Avis might not have reported it to them. If they don't set up a claim I'm wondering if they know they don't have a case. It's possible that this is a last resort and they are pursuing you directly hoping you will just pay them. I would contact Viking and tell them to direct all correspondence to your insurance and if they're making a claim they can set one up. Even if they call your bluff it's best that your insurance company knows anyway so they can deal with the headache instead of you.
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Rental Car Company claiming "significant" damage, 3 days after I returned the vehicle and did a clean walk around. How do I proceed? Hello, I rented a car from Avis, in downtown Baltimore, drove it straight to Newark, NJ. I had the car for a total of a few hours and drove it without incident. After I returned the car, the rental agent did a walk around with me, which was also without incident - gave me a receipt and sent me on my way. 3 days later, I got a phone call from someone at Avis in Newark saying that there was "significant" body damage to the car and that a claim will be started. It is absolutely impossible that damage occurred to the car during my rental so I disputed it. I stated that if the damage is so significant, how could they have me go on my way and then call me 3 days later. How do I know what happened to the car in those 3 days? The Avis representative stated that he was just telling me that a claim will be started and Avis will be looking into it and may or may not reach out to me. 3 weeks went by and Avis never reached out to me so I figured it was resolved somehow. Today, I got a call from the 3rd party that handles Avis's claims billing and told me that I was responsible for roughly $1000 of damages to the car. I told them the story and how Avis never even reached out to me. So they sent me the documentation but I firmly disputed it again. So as of now, they have said that since they're a third party, all they can do is get back to Avis with my comments & that I'm refusing to pay. How can this be dealt with? I am 100% certain that I did not hit the car anywhere even slightly, let alone to cause "significant" body damage.
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Had the same thing occur with Enterprise. Called and called and called and finally got an escalation department with claims. Told them my story and they said they would get back to me. They called a few days later and said there was an already existing claim from prior renter of that vehicle and they would drop my claim. Keep fighting them!
Avis will likely set up a claim on your policy for you. If you haven't heard from your insurance company then Avis might not have reported it to them. If they don't set up a claim I'm wondering if they know they don't have a case. It's possible that this is a last resort and they are pursuing you directly hoping you will just pay them. I would contact Viking and tell them to direct all correspondence to your insurance and if they're making a claim they can set one up. Even if they call your bluff it's best that your insurance company knows anyway so they can deal with the headache instead of you.
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Pregnant cousin left her child in the car for over two hours while at a casino This was totally stupid and irresponsible. The cops were called when someone saw a 2.5 yo child left in the car. After reviewing footages, they realized it was over two hours. Child services was called and they contacted us to pick up her son because she was potentially going to jail. On our way there, they told us to turn around and they’re letting her go home tonight but there will be a warrant out for her arrest for another day. This is in NC for context. As a family member, what can we expect will happen? Is this a felony and will she lose custody of her child and her employment? Is it too soon to seek out a lawyer? Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
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It’s never too soon to seek out a lawyer. From my experience in court the following could apply: 1. She can expect felony charges 2. She will most likely lose custody temporarily and be required to do classes or other programs to the satisfaction of the court before obtaining custody again 3. You can expect to probably have guardianship if you were contacted originally to pick the child up 4. I hope she won big at the casino, if not, the expense behind the legal bills won’t be worth the mistake in this situation. Best of luck 🤞🏽
If CPS asks the court for temporary custody, you can contact them to say you are interested in being considered for kinship placement (meaning the kid lives with you while in custody.
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Pregnant cousin left her child in the car for over two hours while at a casino This was totally stupid and irresponsible. The cops were called when someone saw a 2.5 yo child left in the car. After reviewing footages, they realized it was over two hours. Child services was called and they contacted us to pick up her son because she was potentially going to jail. On our way there, they told us to turn around and they’re letting her go home tonight but there will be a warrant out for her arrest for another day. This is in NC for context. As a family member, what can we expect will happen? Is this a felony and will she lose custody of her child and her employment? Is it too soon to seek out a lawyer? Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
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The sooner she speaks to a lawyer, the better.
If CPS asks the court for temporary custody, you can contact them to say you are interested in being considered for kinship placement (meaning the kid lives with you while in custody.
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Pregnant cousin left her child in the car for over two hours while at a casino This was totally stupid and irresponsible. The cops were called when someone saw a 2.5 yo child left in the car. After reviewing footages, they realized it was over two hours. Child services was called and they contacted us to pick up her son because she was potentially going to jail. On our way there, they told us to turn around and they’re letting her go home tonight but there will be a warrant out for her arrest for another day. This is in NC for context. As a family member, what can we expect will happen? Is this a felony and will she lose custody of her child and her employment? Is it too soon to seek out a lawyer? Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
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If CPS asks the court for temporary custody, you can contact them to say you are interested in being considered for kinship placement (meaning the kid lives with you while in custody.
I would be very surprised if she is charged with a felony in NC. This is in the wheelhouse of the A1 misdemeanor for placing a child at risk of harm (but thankfully no harm done). Depending on the county, she is likely to be asked to take a parenting class and comply with CPS in exchange for a positive disposition. If mental health issues are involved she may be asked to get an evaluation. Depending on what county you are in, there may be a very good PD (public defender) office or great appointed attorneys. However, if she hasn’t been served with the warrant yet, you probably won’t be able to get a meeting with a Pd. So you can definitely talk to a local lawyer about how such cases are handled in that jurisdiction. ETA: unless this child is injured it is definitely not a felony. https://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/bysection/chapter_14/gs_14-318.4.html
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Pregnant cousin left her child in the car for over two hours while at a casino This was totally stupid and irresponsible. The cops were called when someone saw a 2.5 yo child left in the car. After reviewing footages, they realized it was over two hours. Child services was called and they contacted us to pick up her son because she was potentially going to jail. On our way there, they told us to turn around and they’re letting her go home tonight but there will be a warrant out for her arrest for another day. This is in NC for context. As a family member, what can we expect will happen? Is this a felony and will she lose custody of her child and her employment? Is it too soon to seek out a lawyer? Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
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The sooner she speaks to a lawyer, the better.
It’s never too soon to seek out a lawyer. From my experience in court the following could apply: 1. She can expect felony charges 2. She will most likely lose custody temporarily and be required to do classes or other programs to the satisfaction of the court before obtaining custody again 3. You can expect to probably have guardianship if you were contacted originally to pick the child up 4. I hope she won big at the casino, if not, the expense behind the legal bills won’t be worth the mistake in this situation. Best of luck 🤞🏽
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Pregnant cousin left her child in the car for over two hours while at a casino This was totally stupid and irresponsible. The cops were called when someone saw a 2.5 yo child left in the car. After reviewing footages, they realized it was over two hours. Child services was called and they contacted us to pick up her son because she was potentially going to jail. On our way there, they told us to turn around and they’re letting her go home tonight but there will be a warrant out for her arrest for another day. This is in NC for context. As a family member, what can we expect will happen? Is this a felony and will she lose custody of her child and her employment? Is it too soon to seek out a lawyer? Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
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In addition to the advice you've gotten, expect a requirement to get help for gambling addiction. They may want to look into her finances and make sure she hasn't completely destroyed her financial ability to take care of the child (i.e.: is she at risk for losing housing over gambling debts?), as well as look into how often she's going to the casino.
I would be very surprised if she is charged with a felony in NC. This is in the wheelhouse of the A1 misdemeanor for placing a child at risk of harm (but thankfully no harm done). Depending on the county, she is likely to be asked to take a parenting class and comply with CPS in exchange for a positive disposition. If mental health issues are involved she may be asked to get an evaluation. Depending on what county you are in, there may be a very good PD (public defender) office or great appointed attorneys. However, if she hasn’t been served with the warrant yet, you probably won’t be able to get a meeting with a Pd. So you can definitely talk to a local lawyer about how such cases are handled in that jurisdiction. ETA: unless this child is injured it is definitely not a felony. https://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/bysection/chapter_14/gs_14-318.4.html
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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Not a lawyer, but a paramedic. If your uncle wasn’t drinking, absolutely this is prime lawsuit material. Your uncle should have been seen by EMS, who should have been able to recognize the signs of a stroke. A lawyer should review EMS’s patient care report, and see what the officer did to determine her was intoxicated (breathalyzer? Roadside sobriety test?). A good lawyer would be able to tear apart EMS and the arresting officer. However, please keep in mind: Maybe your uncle was drinking that night, and sustained a head injury in the crash. Head injuries can cause brain bleeds, with a delay in presentation of symptoms from minutes to even weeks later. This is even more likely if your uncle is older, and an alcoholic. But like I said: if your uncle was sober this is a great case to pursue.
I would definitely talk to a lawyer about this case. There is definitely something here but when it comes to suing law enforcement... don't get your hopes up.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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Not a lawyer, but a paramedic. If your uncle wasn’t drinking, absolutely this is prime lawsuit material. Your uncle should have been seen by EMS, who should have been able to recognize the signs of a stroke. A lawyer should review EMS’s patient care report, and see what the officer did to determine her was intoxicated (breathalyzer? Roadside sobriety test?). A good lawyer would be able to tear apart EMS and the arresting officer. However, please keep in mind: Maybe your uncle was drinking that night, and sustained a head injury in the crash. Head injuries can cause brain bleeds, with a delay in presentation of symptoms from minutes to even weeks later. This is even more likely if your uncle is older, and an alcoholic. But like I said: if your uncle was sober this is a great case to pursue.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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I would call Adult Protective Services and see if they can help with care services for him.
There are lots of things wrong with your post. Aneurysms are usually not consequences of accidents. They are usually pre-existing in the brain or cure and older people after years of the blood vessels being subjected to high pressures. It is possible one ruptured while he was driving, causing the crash. It is possible he had a existing one, crashed, and it ruptured. What concerns me more is that your uncle appears to be receiving inappropriate care. He's being neglected. He should not have to drag himself across the floor. He needs either home health or he needs to be in a rehab facility. If he is truly a disabled, on the lawyers you should hire is one who specializes in disability.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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I would call Adult Protective Services and see if they can help with care services for him.
Three things you need for a succesful suit: 1. A duty of care. Easy one this, the police owe a duty of care to folk they arrest 2. An error. Trickier one. The police do find a lot of drunk people and most haven't had strokes. So very fact specific, mainly did they follow their own procedures for checking the health of arrested people. 3. Harm. Ie did the delay cause the harm, or was it the original stroke and the accident. Again, very fact specific Edit: I seem to have typed this with a potato. Many many typos hopefully sorted Edit 2: to acknowledge the wise comments below, yes, all three could be in place, but it's about what you can prove in court, and about holding the police to a fair standard for the police, not an emt. What seems obvious to an emt is not always so for someone else.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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I would definitely talk to a lawyer about this case. There is definitely something here but when it comes to suing law enforcement... don't get your hopes up.
I would call Adult Protective Services and see if they can help with care services for him.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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I would call Adult Protective Services and see if they can help with care services for him.
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Three things you need for a succesful suit: 1. A duty of care. Easy one this, the police owe a duty of care to folk they arrest 2. An error. Trickier one. The police do find a lot of drunk people and most haven't had strokes. So very fact specific, mainly did they follow their own procedures for checking the health of arrested people. 3. Harm. Ie did the delay cause the harm, or was it the original stroke and the accident. Again, very fact specific Edit: I seem to have typed this with a potato. Many many typos hopefully sorted Edit 2: to acknowledge the wise comments below, yes, all three could be in place, but it's about what you can prove in court, and about holding the police to a fair standard for the police, not an emt. What seems obvious to an emt is not always so for someone else.
There are lots of things wrong with your post. Aneurysms are usually not consequences of accidents. They are usually pre-existing in the brain or cure and older people after years of the blood vessels being subjected to high pressures. It is possible one ruptured while he was driving, causing the crash. It is possible he had a existing one, crashed, and it ruptured. What concerns me more is that your uncle appears to be receiving inappropriate care. He's being neglected. He should not have to drag himself across the floor. He needs either home health or he needs to be in a rehab facility. If he is truly a disabled, on the lawyers you should hire is one who specializes in disability.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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There are lots of things wrong with your post. Aneurysms are usually not consequences of accidents. They are usually pre-existing in the brain or cure and older people after years of the blood vessels being subjected to high pressures. It is possible one ruptured while he was driving, causing the crash. It is possible he had a existing one, crashed, and it ruptured. What concerns me more is that your uncle appears to be receiving inappropriate care. He's being neglected. He should not have to drag himself across the floor. He needs either home health or he needs to be in a rehab facility. If he is truly a disabled, on the lawyers you should hire is one who specializes in disability.
I would definitely talk to a lawyer about this case. There is definitely something here but when it comes to suing law enforcement... don't get your hopes up.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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There are lots of things wrong with your post. Aneurysms are usually not consequences of accidents. They are usually pre-existing in the brain or cure and older people after years of the blood vessels being subjected to high pressures. It is possible one ruptured while he was driving, causing the crash. It is possible he had a existing one, crashed, and it ruptured. What concerns me more is that your uncle appears to be receiving inappropriate care. He's being neglected. He should not have to drag himself across the floor. He needs either home health or he needs to be in a rehab facility. If he is truly a disabled, on the lawyers you should hire is one who specializes in disability.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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I would definitely talk to a lawyer about this case. There is definitely something here but when it comes to suing law enforcement... don't get your hopes up.
Three things you need for a succesful suit: 1. A duty of care. Easy one this, the police owe a duty of care to folk they arrest 2. An error. Trickier one. The police do find a lot of drunk people and most haven't had strokes. So very fact specific, mainly did they follow their own procedures for checking the health of arrested people. 3. Harm. Ie did the delay cause the harm, or was it the original stroke and the accident. Again, very fact specific Edit: I seem to have typed this with a potato. Many many typos hopefully sorted Edit 2: to acknowledge the wise comments below, yes, all three could be in place, but it's about what you can prove in court, and about holding the police to a fair standard for the police, not an emt. What seems obvious to an emt is not always so for someone else.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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Three things you need for a succesful suit: 1. A duty of care. Easy one this, the police owe a duty of care to folk they arrest 2. An error. Trickier one. The police do find a lot of drunk people and most haven't had strokes. So very fact specific, mainly did they follow their own procedures for checking the health of arrested people. 3. Harm. Ie did the delay cause the harm, or was it the original stroke and the accident. Again, very fact specific Edit: I seem to have typed this with a potato. Many many typos hopefully sorted Edit 2: to acknowledge the wise comments below, yes, all three could be in place, but it's about what you can prove in court, and about holding the police to a fair standard for the police, not an emt. What seems obvious to an emt is not always so for someone else.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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I just read an article on this happening to a woman! I would say seek legal advice ASAP!!! This would be a contingent matter where the attorney doesn’t get paid unless your uncle gets paid so he wouldn’t have to worry about affording one. Woman’s case: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/01/01/dui-wrong-diagnosis-suffered-stroke/2457447002/
I would definitely talk to a lawyer about this case. There is definitely something here but when it comes to suing law enforcement... don't get your hopes up.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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I just read an article on this happening to a woman! I would say seek legal advice ASAP!!! This would be a contingent matter where the attorney doesn’t get paid unless your uncle gets paid so he wouldn’t have to worry about affording one. Woman’s case: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/01/01/dui-wrong-diagnosis-suffered-stroke/2457447002/
Is he on Medicaid? If so, Medicaid will pick up some of the costs of having a nurse come in and stay a bit with him, help him with meals, grooming, and going to the bathroom. If he's on with one of the big insurers, it's a toss-up as to whether or not they'll pay for a nurse, but you can ask. Why doesn't he have a wheelchair? It seems like the doc should have prescribed him one when he was discharged from the hospital. You can check around at local thrift stores as they frequently have wheelchairs, walkers, bedside commodes for just a few dollars. Thrift shops that are run by medical agencies tend to have more medical equipment, like a hospice thrift store, or a thrift store that helps cancer patients, things like that.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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I just read an article on this happening to a woman! I would say seek legal advice ASAP!!! This would be a contingent matter where the attorney doesn’t get paid unless your uncle gets paid so he wouldn’t have to worry about affording one. Woman’s case: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/01/01/dui-wrong-diagnosis-suffered-stroke/2457447002/
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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I would definitely talk to a lawyer about this case. There is definitely something here but when it comes to suing law enforcement... don't get your hopes up.
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My uncle had a stroke while driving and crashed into a concrete pole. Instead of taking him to the hospital, the police assumed he was drunk and put him in jail. He was later admitted to the ICU. He ended up with a brain bleed and several aneurysms. He struggles to walk now and remains bedridden; would he have any legal case against the department? I am definitely not one who believes in ridiculous lawsuits, but I feel like this was just negligence on the part of the police. Please note he was completely sober when the incident occurred. My heart aches for him; he is at home while he waits for his surgeries and takes care of himself. His dad is supposed to be “helping” him but seems to do the very minimum. He cannot afford extra help, and sometimes has to drag himself across the floor to use the bathroom since he cannot walk. He has to Uber Eats himself food or take an Uber to Walmart for his meals.
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Is he on Medicaid? If so, Medicaid will pick up some of the costs of having a nurse come in and stay a bit with him, help him with meals, grooming, and going to the bathroom. If he's on with one of the big insurers, it's a toss-up as to whether or not they'll pay for a nurse, but you can ask. Why doesn't he have a wheelchair? It seems like the doc should have prescribed him one when he was discharged from the hospital. You can check around at local thrift stores as they frequently have wheelchairs, walkers, bedside commodes for just a few dollars. Thrift shops that are run by medical agencies tend to have more medical equipment, like a hospice thrift store, or a thrift store that helps cancer patients, things like that.
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A drunk woman crashed a car into our house and caused a significant amount of damage. The car insurance won’t fully cover the expenses. The car she was driving was not hers. It was a friend of hers. That policy owner’s coverages are not enough to fill cover the cost of the damages. What are our next steps? -Do we have to sue the driver, the policy owner, or the insurance for the rest of the damages to our property? -What kind of lawyer would we need? -Do we have to pay out of pocket for said lawyer until the costs are recovered later? -How long does it usually take if we have file a lawsuit? Thank you so much for your help, y’all. This has been a very weird time.
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File a claim with your homeowners insurance and let them go after the other parties. Visit /r/insurance for advice from insurance professionals.
Any civil attorney can help. You should sue both the driver and car owner. You would likely pay out of pocket for the lawyer. And if no party has money to pay you, you might not get much if anything Is there a reason you don't want to use your homeowners insurance? They would do all the leg work on the suing and trying I connect on said lawsuit
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A drunk woman crashed a car into our house and caused a significant amount of damage. The car insurance won’t fully cover the expenses. The car she was driving was not hers. It was a friend of hers. That policy owner’s coverages are not enough to fill cover the cost of the damages. What are our next steps? -Do we have to sue the driver, the policy owner, or the insurance for the rest of the damages to our property? -What kind of lawyer would we need? -Do we have to pay out of pocket for said lawyer until the costs are recovered later? -How long does it usually take if we have file a lawsuit? Thank you so much for your help, y’all. This has been a very weird time.
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You would be better off going through your home paneers insurance. You wouldn’t sue the drivers insurance. Her policy limits are what they are. If she doesn’t have enough coverage to pay for your damages, her insurance will only pay up to her policy limit. If you sue her, understand it could take years before you ever see a dime from her.
Any civil attorney can help. You should sue both the driver and car owner. You would likely pay out of pocket for the lawyer. And if no party has money to pay you, you might not get much if anything Is there a reason you don't want to use your homeowners insurance? They would do all the leg work on the suing and trying I connect on said lawsuit
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Under 18 kid stole a car from a neighbor, used it to wreck into my car that was parked, cops detained kid in stolen car and then released him. Can I sue parents? I have video of accident. It wasn’t actually an accident he rammed my truck twice intentionally. 2003 tacoma it’s worth 4-5k and damage may be around that so it’s probably totaled. Pretty much destroyed the whole passenger side. I looked into small claims and the max is 2,500 in kentucky so maybe that’s all I could get. Also the family probably is not well off so not sure how that works. Okay any advice is appreciated.
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You can choose to "take" the 2,500 and sue in small claims or bump up to "big boy" court with a lawyer.
Do they not have car insurance you can file a claim against? If he’s a driver he may be on their policy. You’ll have more luck with that than small clams court. If not, do you have UIM insurance?
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Under 18 kid stole a car from a neighbor, used it to wreck into my car that was parked, cops detained kid in stolen car and then released him. Can I sue parents? I have video of accident. It wasn’t actually an accident he rammed my truck twice intentionally. 2003 tacoma it’s worth 4-5k and damage may be around that so it’s probably totaled. Pretty much destroyed the whole passenger side. I looked into small claims and the max is 2,500 in kentucky so maybe that’s all I could get. Also the family probably is not well off so not sure how that works. Okay any advice is appreciated.
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Do they not have car insurance you can file a claim against? If he’s a driver he may be on their policy. You’ll have more luck with that than small clams court. If not, do you have UIM insurance?
there are two sections that could apply, depending on whether it really was an accident: https://law.justia.com/codes/kentucky/2019/chapter-186/section-186-590/ ​ if it was intentional property damage: https://law.justia.com/codes/kentucky/2019/chapter-405/section-405-025/
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A Goodwill company truck hit my parked car and they won’t pay for repairs I live in Milwaukee, and had my car parked on the side of the road. A goodwill company semi hit the side of my car. They called the police and filed a police report, and I contacted my insurance company. It’s been three months, and my insurance company (Allstate) has just told me that when they reached out to Goodwill and their insurance, that the vehicle was not insured at the time of the accident, and that Goodwill said they didn’t have a claim filed on their end. What do I do? I feel like I’m going to have to take legal action and I’ve never done that before. I feel like if I try it’s going to cost more money to get a lawyer than what my deductible reimbursement would be, but this was not okay and I want to sew them for the hassle it’s caused and for the fact that they are clearly badly run. My insurance company and I have reached out to Goodwill multiple times and have been given phone numbers that don’t work or have not been responded to at all.
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This is 100% your insurance companies responsibility if you have uninsured/underinsured coverage. Your insurance company is being lazy - it's their liability and they will go after Goodwill to be made whole. Point #2 - Goodwill is admitting that they are operating uninsured semi-trucks in the city? There are a BUNCH of state agencies that would like to know about this. Goodwill organizations are locally controlled and operated, run by a board of directors. The liability for having semi trucks rolling around the city uninsured would certainly be a major concern.
You should file a claim under your own insurance and let this be your insurer's problem. You're right. This hassle is greater than your deductible. And your insurer still may recover their payout and your deductible from Goodwill. If they don't you may be able to sue Goodwill for that amount directly.
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
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Contact the government office that deals with these employment questions, you should be crystal clear on the legal rules before you take any action.
Not illegal. But maybe worth asking HR, "To clarify, is Boss saying that staying past 5pm is a part of my job responsibilities and, as such, I should enroll my child in an alternate daycare? Im confused by what s/he is trying to communicate here but if my job responsibilities have changed, I would like to know."
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
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Nowhere is it illegal for an employer to make a suggestion. Should you face repercussions for ignoring the suggestion, well, that's a different post.
Not illegal. But maybe worth asking HR, "To clarify, is Boss saying that staying past 5pm is a part of my job responsibilities and, as such, I should enroll my child in an alternate daycare? Im confused by what s/he is trying to communicate here but if my job responsibilities have changed, I would like to know."
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
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Nowhere is it illegal for an employer to make a suggestion. Should you face repercussions for ignoring the suggestion, well, that's a different post.
Contact the government office that deals with these employment questions, you should be crystal clear on the legal rules before you take any action.
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
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Nowhere is it illegal for an employer to make a suggestion. Should you face repercussions for ignoring the suggestion, well, that's a different post.
Is it legal for him to suggest an alternative daycare? Yes. It is not legal for him to fire you because you don’t stay past the end of the work day. I would be looking for a new job if I were you.
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
ei9yd8s
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Turn it into a negotiation. IF they want you to stay later and use that specific daycare, tell'em to open up the old chequebook and compensate you for it. Otherwise start shipping CVs and pop smoke ASAP.
Ask them if they're willing to foot the difference from daycare, and the gas if it's further away, and pay any extra time you'd be staying for.
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azktac
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
ei9yd8s
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Turn it into a negotiation. IF they want you to stay later and use that specific daycare, tell'em to open up the old chequebook and compensate you for it. Otherwise start shipping CVs and pop smoke ASAP.
Nowhere is it illegal for an employer to make a suggestion. Should you face repercussions for ignoring the suggestion, well, that's a different post.
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azktac
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
ei8zew4
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I see nothing illegal about it. Your employer has the right to give you a suggestion even if it's unsolicited and inappropriate.
Turn it into a negotiation. IF they want you to stay later and use that specific daycare, tell'em to open up the old chequebook and compensate you for it. Otherwise start shipping CVs and pop smoke ASAP.
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
ei9yd8s
ei94zsb
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Turn it into a negotiation. IF they want you to stay later and use that specific daycare, tell'em to open up the old chequebook and compensate you for it. Otherwise start shipping CVs and pop smoke ASAP.
Your employer can force you to work overtime, as long as you are being compensated for it. This article is informative. https://www.monster.ca/career-advice/article/overtime-laws-in-canada Might be time to start job hunting?
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azktac
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
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It depends where you live, what the hours are and how easy changing to a later daycare is. I have an accommodation under the Ontario Human Rights Act this that I can’t work past my shift because there is no reasonable option for childcare for me available that could cover what they ask. I do work later on days that my husband is off work, and I give them that schedule well in advance. However if there are similarly priced daycares that you can switch to, then this accommodation wouldn’t be covered as the wording requires you to make reasonable efforts to self-accommodate.
Turn it into a negotiation. IF they want you to stay later and use that specific daycare, tell'em to open up the old chequebook and compensate you for it. Otherwise start shipping CVs and pop smoke ASAP.
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
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/r/legaladvicecanada for more canada specific opinions.
Turn it into a negotiation. IF they want you to stay later and use that specific daycare, tell'em to open up the old chequebook and compensate you for it. Otherwise start shipping CVs and pop smoke ASAP.
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
ei8kcw5
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Nowhere is it illegal for an employer to make a suggestion. Should you face repercussions for ignoring the suggestion, well, that's a different post.
Ask them if they're willing to foot the difference from daycare, and the gas if it's further away, and pay any extra time you'd be staying for.
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
ei950gk
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Ask them if they're willing to foot the difference from daycare, and the gas if it's further away, and pay any extra time you'd be staying for.
I see nothing illegal about it. Your employer has the right to give you a suggestion even if it's unsolicited and inappropriate.
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
ei950gk
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Ask them if they're willing to foot the difference from daycare, and the gas if it's further away, and pay any extra time you'd be staying for.
Your employer can force you to work overtime, as long as you are being compensated for it. This article is informative. https://www.monster.ca/career-advice/article/overtime-laws-in-canada Might be time to start job hunting?
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Employer wants me to switch my daughters daycare because he feels like I should stay past 5, even thought that's the end of the work day. Hey Reddit. I'm a Canadian citizen and I am having an issue at work. I am performing well, doing my job, and not doing anything against company policy or Canadian law. Recently my employer expressed the fact that although our day ends at 5PM that because I'm not staying past 5 like some other employees that he thinks I am not hustling or taking the job seriously. I know nothing can be done so although I was upset I brushed it off. The reason I leave at 5 on the dot usually is because my daughter is in daycare and the daycare is not open past 6. I need to be there to pick her up, and also want to be there to spend the night with her. We'll, yesterday night a superior messaged me about a daycare he found that is open to 7PM and serves dinner to kids. I was infuriated. I don't know why they expect me to pay more money and switch my daughter to another day care after already making friends and getting used to her current daycare. Especially since it's only because they feel I should be staying after 5. Is this legal? Are there issues I can bring up? Or is my employer just a big POS?
ei94zsb
ei95szo
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Your employer can force you to work overtime, as long as you are being compensated for it. This article is informative. https://www.monster.ca/career-advice/article/overtime-laws-in-canada Might be time to start job hunting?
It depends where you live, what the hours are and how easy changing to a later daycare is. I have an accommodation under the Ontario Human Rights Act this that I can’t work past my shift because there is no reasonable option for childcare for me available that could cover what they ask. I do work later on days that my husband is off work, and I give them that schedule well in advance. However if there are similarly priced daycares that you can switch to, then this accommodation wouldn’t be covered as the wording requires you to make reasonable efforts to self-accommodate.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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Do not pay a cent. It's beyond the statute of limitations. But, if you pay anything, that may restart the clock. It is also too late to report to collections. So, best thing is to order them not to contact you about it any more. Best to do that in writing.
Prostate removal from female? Case closed.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
d5furde
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Consult with a lawyer who specializes in suing debt collectors. It will depend on a few details which a lawyer will be able to help with but there are some steep consequences for debt collectors who violate collection laws (and this sounds like if they are not already violating they will)
Prostate removal from female? Case closed.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
d5ftx78
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Did she have any hospital stay? If you're sure it's meritless, you read the FDCPA, you tell the debt collectors to go away, and they do.
Prostate removal from female? Case closed.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
d5fu4kh
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Do not pay a cent. It's beyond the statute of limitations. But, if you pay anything, that may restart the clock. It is also too late to report to collections. So, best thing is to order them not to contact you about it any more. Best to do that in writing.
Did she have any hospital stay? If you're sure it's meritless, you read the FDCPA, you tell the debt collectors to go away, and they do.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
d5ftx78
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Did she have any hospital stay? If you're sure it's meritless, you read the FDCPA, you tell the debt collectors to go away, and they do.
Consult with a lawyer who specializes in suing debt collectors. It will depend on a few details which a lawyer will be able to help with but there are some steep consequences for debt collectors who violate collection laws (and this sounds like if they are not already violating they will)
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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Many hospitals have ombudsmen and patient advocates, you could give them a try.
You may also want to check, and freeze, your daughter's credit, in case she is a victim of identity theft. I hope this is not the case.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
d5g4vd7
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You may also want to check, and freeze, your daughter's credit, in case she is a victim of identity theft. I hope this is not the case.
The next time the collection agency calls answer and say you want to talkto a supervisor, keep going till they tell you there is no one higher up, then tell them the situation, if tbey want to argue that its still legit ask them for their proper address and contact information so your lawyer can be in touch with them. Call their bluff. Worse case, you get some info to take to your free consult with a lawyer. Make sure you get names when dealing with the collections people, document everything.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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Have you asked the collections agency to validate the debt? They are required to do this upon request. Ask them in writing via certified mail. Hopefully they should produce a copy of the bill. Then send another letter via certified mail explaining why it is not you. If that doesn't work, then the next step may be to write the three credit reporting agencies directly (again via certified mail) with copies of all correspondence and evidence, and request that the debt be removed from your credit history. Not a lawyer.
You may also want to check, and freeze, your daughter's credit, in case she is a victim of identity theft. I hope this is not the case.
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4taoea
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
d5g4vd7
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You may also want to check, and freeze, your daughter's credit, in case she is a victim of identity theft. I hope this is not the case.
Here's a debt validation letter.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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Ask them to validate the claim. Collection agencies legally have to give you proof of the debt if you request it. If they refuse, report their number to the FTC.
You may also want to check, and freeze, your daughter's credit, in case she is a victim of identity theft. I hope this is not the case.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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https://help.consumerfinance.gov/app/debtcollection/ask#currentPage=0 Try this.
You may also want to check, and freeze, your daughter's credit, in case she is a victim of identity theft. I hope this is not the case.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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The next time the collection agency calls answer and say you want to talkto a supervisor, keep going till they tell you there is no one higher up, then tell them the situation, if tbey want to argue that its still legit ask them for their proper address and contact information so your lawyer can be in touch with them. Call their bluff. Worse case, you get some info to take to your free consult with a lawyer. Make sure you get names when dealing with the collections people, document everything.
Many hospitals have ombudsmen and patient advocates, you could give them a try.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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https://help.consumerfinance.gov/app/debtcollection/ask#currentPage=0 Try this.
Many hospitals have ombudsmen and patient advocates, you could give them a try.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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The next time the collection agency calls answer and say you want to talkto a supervisor, keep going till they tell you there is no one higher up, then tell them the situation, if tbey want to argue that its still legit ask them for their proper address and contact information so your lawyer can be in touch with them. Call their bluff. Worse case, you get some info to take to your free consult with a lawyer. Make sure you get names when dealing with the collections people, document everything.
Have you asked the collections agency to validate the debt? They are required to do this upon request. Ask them in writing via certified mail. Hopefully they should produce a copy of the bill. Then send another letter via certified mail explaining why it is not you. If that doesn't work, then the next step may be to write the three credit reporting agencies directly (again via certified mail) with copies of all correspondence and evidence, and request that the debt be removed from your credit history. Not a lawyer.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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Have you asked the collections agency to validate the debt? They are required to do this upon request. Ask them in writing via certified mail. Hopefully they should produce a copy of the bill. Then send another letter via certified mail explaining why it is not you. If that doesn't work, then the next step may be to write the three credit reporting agencies directly (again via certified mail) with copies of all correspondence and evidence, and request that the debt be removed from your credit history. Not a lawyer.
https://help.consumerfinance.gov/app/debtcollection/ask#currentPage=0 Try this.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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This is not a matter requiring a lawyer (yet), and it won't cost you much of anything to fix it. You need to cease all communication with the debt collectors via any other form than writing. Talking to the hospital is useless, because they have sold the debt to the collections agency - they do not directly control it. You need to use a series of forms to request the collectors "certify the debt." Please see links provided in another /r/legaladvice this afternoon shown here by /u/shill4expeal. That is a legally-binding request that the collector must prove that you actually owe the debt, or else pound sand. It must be submitted via mail, and they must respond within a set timeframe. Use certified mail. The collector will be unable to certify the debt, because no 5-year-old girl has a prostate to be removed. It will then go "poof," and you get your life and credit back with no additional skin off your nose. If you'd like more advice on this topic, I recommend searching for "certify debt" and "dealing with debt collectors" on /r/personalfinance. The topic comes up all the time, and the advice is far more practical (and far less "lawyer up and sue the world") than you seem to be getting here.
Here's a debt validation letter.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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This is not a matter requiring a lawyer (yet), and it won't cost you much of anything to fix it. You need to cease all communication with the debt collectors via any other form than writing. Talking to the hospital is useless, because they have sold the debt to the collections agency - they do not directly control it. You need to use a series of forms to request the collectors "certify the debt." Please see links provided in another /r/legaladvice this afternoon shown here by /u/shill4expeal. That is a legally-binding request that the collector must prove that you actually owe the debt, or else pound sand. It must be submitted via mail, and they must respond within a set timeframe. Use certified mail. The collector will be unable to certify the debt, because no 5-year-old girl has a prostate to be removed. It will then go "poof," and you get your life and credit back with no additional skin off your nose. If you'd like more advice on this topic, I recommend searching for "certify debt" and "dealing with debt collectors" on /r/personalfinance. The topic comes up all the time, and the advice is far more practical (and far less "lawyer up and sue the world") than you seem to be getting here.
Ask them to validate the claim. Collection agencies legally have to give you proof of the debt if you request it. If they refuse, report their number to the FTC.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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https://help.consumerfinance.gov/app/debtcollection/ask#currentPage=0 Try this.
This is not a matter requiring a lawyer (yet), and it won't cost you much of anything to fix it. You need to cease all communication with the debt collectors via any other form than writing. Talking to the hospital is useless, because they have sold the debt to the collections agency - they do not directly control it. You need to use a series of forms to request the collectors "certify the debt." Please see links provided in another /r/legaladvice this afternoon shown here by /u/shill4expeal. That is a legally-binding request that the collector must prove that you actually owe the debt, or else pound sand. It must be submitted via mail, and they must respond within a set timeframe. Use certified mail. The collector will be unable to certify the debt, because no 5-year-old girl has a prostate to be removed. It will then go "poof," and you get your life and credit back with no additional skin off your nose. If you'd like more advice on this topic, I recommend searching for "certify debt" and "dealing with debt collectors" on /r/personalfinance. The topic comes up all the time, and the advice is far more practical (and far less "lawyer up and sue the world") than you seem to be getting here.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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Ask them to validate the claim. Collection agencies legally have to give you proof of the debt if you request it. If they refuse, report their number to the FTC.
Here's a debt validation letter.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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Here's a debt validation letter.
https://help.consumerfinance.gov/app/debtcollection/ask#currentPage=0 Try this.
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Sent to collections for a hospital bill from 2008 for my (then) 5 year old daughter's prostate removal and hospital stay. No one will listen when I tell them it's a mistake. California. I could really use some advice or to be pointed in the right direction here. No one from the collections company or the hospital will listen when I try to show them that it is a mistake. I even went to the hospital with my daughter, her birth certificate (she was born there) and her SSN but they just told me the bill is accurate. It's a huge bill and there's no way I can afford it. The calls are constant. I have three pre-teen kids and my wife died when they were small and I'm doing it all on my own here. If I get stuck paying the bill I'll lose my house and money is tight. It's obviously a mistake and I'm freaking out. What should I do to and how can I get someone to listen to and fix it?
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Ask them to validate the claim. Collection agencies legally have to give you proof of the debt if you request it. If they refuse, report their number to the FTC.
https://help.consumerfinance.gov/app/debtcollection/ask#currentPage=0 Try this.
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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Contacting corporate might also be a good idea. Everyone involved should report their own interaction with him so they can get a clear picture.
>When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. Depending on the circumstances, sending family members photos of a deceased loved one *may* constitute criminal harassment. You've got nothing to lose by going to the police and explaining the situation to them.
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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I’m so sorry for your loss. After you have had time to grieve, you could talk to a personal injury lawyer. You may have a claim against him for infliction of emotional distress. Those are hard cases to prove, but if what you said is true, his behavior was pretty outrageous.
Contacting corporate might also be a good idea. Everyone involved should report their own interaction with him so they can get a clear picture.
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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It doesnt sound like there's anything illegal here, or anything that caused damages you can sue for. The only potentially problematic thing is this: >The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. But that's more an issue of hospital policy than the law. Was anyone in your family present to refuse his visiting? Also your title says the boss took pictures in the morgue, but the text says it was in the ER. There might be stricter laws about who's allowed to access the deceased, not sure. The best you can do is complain to hospital administration about how this was handled, and maybe they'll tighten their procedures for the future.
Contacting corporate might also be a good idea. Everyone involved should report their own interaction with him so they can get a clear picture.
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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>When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. Depending on the circumstances, sending family members photos of a deceased loved one *may* constitute criminal harassment. You've got nothing to lose by going to the police and explaining the situation to them.
It doesnt sound like there's anything illegal here, or anything that caused damages you can sue for. The only potentially problematic thing is this: >The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. But that's more an issue of hospital policy than the law. Was anyone in your family present to refuse his visiting? Also your title says the boss took pictures in the morgue, but the text says it was in the ER. There might be stricter laws about who's allowed to access the deceased, not sure. The best you can do is complain to hospital administration about how this was handled, and maybe they'll tighten their procedures for the future.
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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I’m so sorry for your loss. After you have had time to grieve, you could talk to a personal injury lawyer. You may have a claim against him for infliction of emotional distress. Those are hard cases to prove, but if what you said is true, his behavior was pretty outrageous.
It doesnt sound like there's anything illegal here, or anything that caused damages you can sue for. The only potentially problematic thing is this: >The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. But that's more an issue of hospital policy than the law. Was anyone in your family present to refuse his visiting? Also your title says the boss took pictures in the morgue, but the text says it was in the ER. There might be stricter laws about who's allowed to access the deceased, not sure. The best you can do is complain to hospital administration about how this was handled, and maybe they'll tighten their procedures for the future.
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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The question seems to be where did he take the photos. If you were at his place of business, not much you can do. This might be construed as desecration of the dead in some areas, but if it was on his property and he says that he needed information for insurance, osha, etc. he might have a case. If you were in the ER, often times the ER is chaotic and people who shouldn’t be there get in there. Not much you can do about it beyond the desecration thing. If you were in the main part of the hospital, or any department other than the ER (including the morgue). Then you have a leg to stand on. Sue the hospital for damages to your grandmother’s body while it was in their custody. They will then have the legal clout to go against her former employer as he was trespassing and hopefully fire the person who gave him access. Try harassment, try desecrating the dead, I think there might be legal precedent that you cannot slander the dead (but that may be me remembering a movie). In any case, talk to a lawyer and document everything. And yes, that is really skeevy.
It may not be illegal, but there is certainly a civil case for intentional infliction of emotional distress per se. > A Florida appellate court recently explained that in cases in which the defendant's outrageous conduct is directed to a third person, the emotional distress felt by the victim's close relatives on learning of the acts is not actionable unless they observed the conduct and the conduct was directed at them; **however, "unique considerations" apply in cases involving dead bodies or pictures of dead bodies.** (Williams v. City of Minneola (Fla. Dist. Ct. App. 1991) 575 So.2d 683, 694.) The court held that the mother and sister of a decedent could state a cause of action for outrageous infliction of emotional distress by reckless conduct based on the defendants' exhibition of a videotape of the decedent's autopsy, even though they were not present at the display. It reasoned, **"One who behaves outrageously with regard to pictures of a dead body can be presumed to know that severe emotional distress will be inflicted thereby on those who were closely related to the deceased, should those survivors become aware of the tortfeasor's behavior."** (Id. at p. 693.)
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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It may not be illegal, but there is certainly a civil case for intentional infliction of emotional distress per se. > A Florida appellate court recently explained that in cases in which the defendant's outrageous conduct is directed to a third person, the emotional distress felt by the victim's close relatives on learning of the acts is not actionable unless they observed the conduct and the conduct was directed at them; **however, "unique considerations" apply in cases involving dead bodies or pictures of dead bodies.** (Williams v. City of Minneola (Fla. Dist. Ct. App. 1991) 575 So.2d 683, 694.) The court held that the mother and sister of a decedent could state a cause of action for outrageous infliction of emotional distress by reckless conduct based on the defendants' exhibition of a videotape of the decedent's autopsy, even though they were not present at the display. It reasoned, **"One who behaves outrageously with regard to pictures of a dead body can be presumed to know that severe emotional distress will be inflicted thereby on those who were closely related to the deceased, should those survivors become aware of the tortfeasor's behavior."** (Id. at p. 693.)
It doesnt sound like there's anything illegal here, or anything that caused damages you can sue for. The only potentially problematic thing is this: >The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. But that's more an issue of hospital policy than the law. Was anyone in your family present to refuse his visiting? Also your title says the boss took pictures in the morgue, but the text says it was in the ER. There might be stricter laws about who's allowed to access the deceased, not sure. The best you can do is complain to hospital administration about how this was handled, and maybe they'll tighten their procedures for the future.
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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The question seems to be where did he take the photos. If you were at his place of business, not much you can do. This might be construed as desecration of the dead in some areas, but if it was on his property and he says that he needed information for insurance, osha, etc. he might have a case. If you were in the ER, often times the ER is chaotic and people who shouldn’t be there get in there. Not much you can do about it beyond the desecration thing. If you were in the main part of the hospital, or any department other than the ER (including the morgue). Then you have a leg to stand on. Sue the hospital for damages to your grandmother’s body while it was in their custody. They will then have the legal clout to go against her former employer as he was trespassing and hopefully fire the person who gave him access. Try harassment, try desecrating the dead, I think there might be legal precedent that you cannot slander the dead (but that may be me remembering a movie). In any case, talk to a lawyer and document everything. And yes, that is really skeevy.
I am not a lawyer but I would maybe start by contacting the hospital ombudsman or a patient advocate with your complaints and concerns.
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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It doesnt sound like there's anything illegal here, or anything that caused damages you can sue for. The only potentially problematic thing is this: >The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. But that's more an issue of hospital policy than the law. Was anyone in your family present to refuse his visiting? Also your title says the boss took pictures in the morgue, but the text says it was in the ER. There might be stricter laws about who's allowed to access the deceased, not sure. The best you can do is complain to hospital administration about how this was handled, and maybe they'll tighten their procedures for the future.
I am not a lawyer but I would maybe start by contacting the hospital ombudsman or a patient advocate with your complaints and concerns.
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My mother died, her now ex-boss took pictures of her dead body with his cell phone while she was laying in the morgue... He owns a Days Inn. I know the title sounds ghoulish, and that’s because it is. My mother passed away on the 10th, just 5 days from today. Biologically she’s my grandmother, but she and my grandpa adopted me when I was only 5 years old. So she raised me, took care of me and I was there every single day taking care of her up until the very end. She was a very tough woman, she worked every single day she could at Days Inn. She completely refused to stop working. After my grandpa passed away a couple years ago she felt that she needed to keep busy, to keep her mind off everything. Her boss, who is from Pakistan, wasn’t always the nicest guy to her. There were times I liked him, and other times I hated him. She would come home crying some days due to the way he treated her at work, yelling at her, making fun of her and childish things. On the 10th she had a massive heart attack, and died in my arms. I tried doing CPR on her and I called 911 immediately. I called my aunt and uncle, they got there and soon after her boss showed up. The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. When he gets back there he kept repeating the same trash like ‘Oh man that’s life, life’s tough man.’ Seriously. My grandma worked for this scumbag for 20 years. She worked there before he even bought the hotel and changed the name to Days Inn. She was the head maid there. So when he walked back there where her body was, I was seriously having a nervous breakdown. She didn’t look like herself at all. She always wore a wig, she always wore makeup (most of it was on my shirt from trying everything I could to resuscitate her and keep her alive), and her false teeth had fallen out. All of a sudden he picked up his cell phone and started snapping multiple pictures of her body laying there and laughing at the same time. At the time I couldn’t even believe what happened. My mind was so messed up and I felt like I was in some sort of nightmare. I couldn’t believe anyone would do something like that to somebody, especially someone who worked for them for 20 years. I hit the floor and my chest felt like it was seriously about to cave in, I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I went and told my aunt, and she asked him to leave immediately. During this whole thing my biological mom was in Florida, and she started driving back when she heard. When they got back from Florida they told me that he sent them the pictures he took of her body. I nearly lost it after hearing that. She would’ve NEVER wanted ANYONE to see her like that, and this sick piece of trash is sending pictures of her body to people. I also found out that he not only sent the pictures to them, but also sent them to her co-workers. I contacted one of them who admitted that he sent them to her, but she didn’t want to lose her job by getting involved. She deserved so much better than this. I’m just wondering, if you’ve read this, what would your opinion be about this whole situation. I am so heartbroken over all this, and this guy taking illegal pictures of my mother’s dead body and sending them to who knows how many people. Probably his entire family has them and they’re probably passing them around. I just wanted to know if anyone has been through anything like this? It’s so horrific, and I feel so sick about all of this. I can’t sleep at night, I haven’t slept halfway decent since all this happened.
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The question seems to be where did he take the photos. If you were at his place of business, not much you can do. This might be construed as desecration of the dead in some areas, but if it was on his property and he says that he needed information for insurance, osha, etc. he might have a case. If you were in the ER, often times the ER is chaotic and people who shouldn’t be there get in there. Not much you can do about it beyond the desecration thing. If you were in the main part of the hospital, or any department other than the ER (including the morgue). Then you have a leg to stand on. Sue the hospital for damages to your grandmother’s body while it was in their custody. They will then have the legal clout to go against her former employer as he was trespassing and hopefully fire the person who gave him access. Try harassment, try desecrating the dead, I think there might be legal precedent that you cannot slander the dead (but that may be me remembering a movie). In any case, talk to a lawyer and document everything. And yes, that is really skeevy.
It doesnt sound like there's anything illegal here, or anything that caused damages you can sue for. The only potentially problematic thing is this: >The ER just let him back there, without anybody’s permission. But that's more an issue of hospital policy than the law. Was anyone in your family present to refuse his visiting? Also your title says the boss took pictures in the morgue, but the text says it was in the ER. There might be stricter laws about who's allowed to access the deceased, not sure. The best you can do is complain to hospital administration about how this was handled, and maybe they'll tighten their procedures for the future.
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Alright, so this is gonna be a long one. My dad who left us 10 years ago is now back and wants full custody and has been severely underpaying my mom in child support all while twisting lies about her to his own family (who she considers more of a family than her own) what are our options? So, to preface this, this is my first post in this community and I never thought I’d have a post of my own for here, but after tonight I realized my mom and I needed outside help. I’m 14 years old, a freshman at an amazing high school in GA, and I’m trans. (He/him please), my parents have had a legal separation for the past year or so and now my dad’s pushing for a full divorce to get my mom off of his flight benefits/his health insurance. So, my birthday is in 9 days, and I came out last year to both of my parents on my birthday. It took my mom a few months, but she’s now using my pronouns 100% (except for talking with my dad) but my dad has not made a single effort to even try and treats the topic as taboo. (I might also add here that my dad is terrible at communicating. He can’t have a serious conversation face to face, it always has to be over text). Anyways, this would just be annoying if it weren’t for the fact that my dad is trying his best to make sure I never go on hormones, get surgery, or even have my own life away from him. I understand I am too young for any of this right now, but in the next year or so I want to start seeing a gender therapist in order to start the process. He would put a complete halt on any of it. 1) Is my mom able to medically consent to hrt (hormone replacement therapy) for me, without my father being included in the decision? And 2) is there any way that after starting hrt without my dad’s consent that he could try and get legal custody of me under the premise of my mom being delusional and not looking out for my long term health, or any other similar thing? This is another medical question, and the background to it: I was diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety and Major Depression, as well as a Panic Disorder over two years ago, on 11/27/17. This diagnosis has been supported by another psychiatrist and two therapists as well as my psychiatrist that I see for medicine. I am currently on 15mg of Lexapro (Escitalopram) for long term treatment of depression and anxiety and 50mg of Atarax (Hydroxyzine) to help manage my extreme anxiety symptoms. My dad is planning on using this against my mom to prove that, again, she is delusional and cannot reliably look out for my future best interests. 3) Can he legally use this against my mom to get custody of me/my brother? 4) Can he legally get the court to order the discontinuation of me using my medicine, despite the fact that I’ve shown tremendous improvement? Alright, next question(s), these have to do with Child Support: So for the past 10 years he’s been paying a large amount of child support (60k) despite his salary of 140k at his last airline (he’s a pilot) while also paying 40k in taxes (allegedly, that’s what he told us and I don’t have the most accurate time frame so I can’t look up tax rates, sorry). He’s continued to pay 60k, up until right now, but last year he’d told me on a hiking trip that he made 250k (he was complaining about how much taxes he pays), and I relayed this information to my mom, unbeknownst to me he’d been telling her 200k. He’s been underpaying child support by 8,600$ assuming he made 200k. At one time that may have been his salary, but if he was making 250k he’d be underpaying by 25k, and now it’s come out that he’s actually making 313k when means he’s been underpaying by 47k, which my mom desperately needs. She’s on a salary of 4500$ a year, from her job. She barely has enough money to afford mortgage (above 1k a month), utility bills, food costs, and basic maintenance of the house (fixing the car, fixing the fridge, fixing the washing machine, etc). As it is her car is slowly running out of steam and in two years she’s no longer going to have a working car. She cannot afford her attorney which she found for the cheapest price possible while also guaranteeing that she had a chance to win the court case. 5) Is there any way to get reimbursement of the money he’s been owing my mom the last few years? and 6) How can we guarantee that from now on he’s paying the child support my mom is owed? This next portion is about medically related questions: My mom had two cancer surgeries at the beginning of the year, one for actual cancerous cells in her thyroid, and the other as a preventative surgery for precancerous cells in her uterus. My dad has access to all of the information on the billing about what doctors/procedures she had done since it’s his insurance. My dad has told me, and my brother (13yo but nonetheless ignorant of the whole situation) that my mom never actually had cancer and that both were preventative (which is true for one, but not the other) and he basically told us that my mom was making a much bigger deal out of it than it actually was. Now, keep in mind that when my mom told him she had cancer, he asked if she’d signed the divorce papers his lawyer had sent over. Not a single question about her cancer. He continued to add stress to her over signing the papers and other similar divorce things (seeing a mediator, responding with a counterclaim to his divorce filing, etc) while she was prepping for, and recovering from her cancer surgeries. 7)is there any legal recourse for this involving emotional damages? My mom is less interested in pursuing this route but just seeing all the stress she’s been under since this has started has all but destroyed her ability to relax. Now, my dad claimed he was getting audited by the IRS, and he needed my mom’s full medical receipts in order to straighten out things with the IRS. She sent them over despite being skeptical, but he was actually looking to see if she’d started me on Testosterone without his knowledge. 8) does he have any legal right to go stop my usage of testosterone at any point when I do start it? My final questions are in this paragraph, they are on minor’s privacy rights: My dad presented my mom with records detailing my usage and history of communication with everyone I’ve ever contacted using my phone. Now, I haven’t been doing anything wrong, but it still bothers me that he could potentially be seeing every single thing in writing on any social media I have (Snapchat, Instagram, tumblr, Pinterest, Reddit, Twitter, etc). I feel like I have a right to my privacy at the very least, esp. when I have not been doing anything wrong. I don’t talk to people older than 25, I don’t post every single second of my life on social media, and I don’t do anything illegal, so there’s no possible way for him to get anything to use against my mom in court (from what I know he knows) 9) Do I have the ability to protect my Information on my own phone? 10) could any legal action be taken against him for digging through my phone without my permission or even my knowledge? I would’ve handed over my phone for him to look through if he’d asked, but instead he’s gone behind my back to find out when I’ve been awake and on my phone, and to find information on the people I’ve been communicating with. My dad also has a habit of typing out very long, 3-6 paragraph texts that are usually fairly harsh, he constantly dismisses my mental health issues, and claims I am making up all of my “trans issues” to get attention. 11) Could my mom be at fault for me not responding to my dad’s texts? She asked me to be civil when I responded, and I cannot think of any nice way to respond to his texts, so I haven’t responded. Thank you all so much for reading this information dump, if you need clarification I will be combing through any and all comments you have, and I am also open to adding any information I may have forgotten here. I’m going to be posting the full list of questions just below this paragraph. 1) Is my mom able to medically consent to hrt (hormone replacement therapy) for me, without my father being included in the decision? 2) is there any way that after starting hrt without my dad’s consent that he could try and get legal custody of me under the premise of my mom being delusional and not looking out for my long term health, or any other similar thing? 3) Can he legally use this against my mom to get custody of me/my brother? 4) Can he legally get the court to order the discontinuation of me using my medicine, despite the fact that I’ve shown tremendous improvement? 5) Is there any way to get reimbursement of the money he’s been owing my mom the last few years? 6) How can we guarantee that from now on he’s paying the child support my mom is owed? 7)is there any legal recourse for this involving emotional damages? 8) does he have any legal right to go stop my usage of testosterone at any point when I do start it? 9) Do I have the ability to protect my Information on my own phone? 10) could any legal action be taken against him for digging through my phone without my permission or even my knowledge? 11) Could my mom be at fault for me not responding to my dad’s texts?
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At 16 you can go for legal emancipation if things go completely south for you and your mother RE the custody battle. However if you win. Then child support stops cause legally you aren’t a child anymore. It’s a nuclear option I only mention it cause of your trans status and his opposition to it. INAL. But knew someone who did go this route many years ago.
Not a lawyer so I don't have legal advice to add. But I am in the aviation industry and it's not unheard of for people to make that much money. Or even unheard of for people to have that much of a salary increase within a year or two. There are a lot of factors that come into play when looking at pilot salaries but generally people making the amount your dad claims to be are: 1) working for a major airline or cargo carrier as a captain. (United, Delta, Southwest, American, FedEx, UPS. It's unlikely he'd make that much as an First officer but it's not impossible.). 2) flying larger aircraft. Generally the bigger the plane the higher the compensation. 3) senior in the company. If he has been with the same company for years it's likely that he's moved up the payscale. 4) sometimes companies will give extremely large retention bonuses and hiring bonuses. These bonuses can be upwards of $50,000. Hopefully this helps you determine if it's possible for him to be lying or not about the income. Hope it all works out for your family.
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Alright, so this is gonna be a long one. My dad who left us 10 years ago is now back and wants full custody and has been severely underpaying my mom in child support all while twisting lies about her to his own family (who she considers more of a family than her own) what are our options? So, to preface this, this is my first post in this community and I never thought I’d have a post of my own for here, but after tonight I realized my mom and I needed outside help. I’m 14 years old, a freshman at an amazing high school in GA, and I’m trans. (He/him please), my parents have had a legal separation for the past year or so and now my dad’s pushing for a full divorce to get my mom off of his flight benefits/his health insurance. So, my birthday is in 9 days, and I came out last year to both of my parents on my birthday. It took my mom a few months, but she’s now using my pronouns 100% (except for talking with my dad) but my dad has not made a single effort to even try and treats the topic as taboo. (I might also add here that my dad is terrible at communicating. He can’t have a serious conversation face to face, it always has to be over text). Anyways, this would just be annoying if it weren’t for the fact that my dad is trying his best to make sure I never go on hormones, get surgery, or even have my own life away from him. I understand I am too young for any of this right now, but in the next year or so I want to start seeing a gender therapist in order to start the process. He would put a complete halt on any of it. 1) Is my mom able to medically consent to hrt (hormone replacement therapy) for me, without my father being included in the decision? And 2) is there any way that after starting hrt without my dad’s consent that he could try and get legal custody of me under the premise of my mom being delusional and not looking out for my long term health, or any other similar thing? This is another medical question, and the background to it: I was diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety and Major Depression, as well as a Panic Disorder over two years ago, on 11/27/17. This diagnosis has been supported by another psychiatrist and two therapists as well as my psychiatrist that I see for medicine. I am currently on 15mg of Lexapro (Escitalopram) for long term treatment of depression and anxiety and 50mg of Atarax (Hydroxyzine) to help manage my extreme anxiety symptoms. My dad is planning on using this against my mom to prove that, again, she is delusional and cannot reliably look out for my future best interests. 3) Can he legally use this against my mom to get custody of me/my brother? 4) Can he legally get the court to order the discontinuation of me using my medicine, despite the fact that I’ve shown tremendous improvement? Alright, next question(s), these have to do with Child Support: So for the past 10 years he’s been paying a large amount of child support (60k) despite his salary of 140k at his last airline (he’s a pilot) while also paying 40k in taxes (allegedly, that’s what he told us and I don’t have the most accurate time frame so I can’t look up tax rates, sorry). He’s continued to pay 60k, up until right now, but last year he’d told me on a hiking trip that he made 250k (he was complaining about how much taxes he pays), and I relayed this information to my mom, unbeknownst to me he’d been telling her 200k. He’s been underpaying child support by 8,600$ assuming he made 200k. At one time that may have been his salary, but if he was making 250k he’d be underpaying by 25k, and now it’s come out that he’s actually making 313k when means he’s been underpaying by 47k, which my mom desperately needs. She’s on a salary of 4500$ a year, from her job. She barely has enough money to afford mortgage (above 1k a month), utility bills, food costs, and basic maintenance of the house (fixing the car, fixing the fridge, fixing the washing machine, etc). As it is her car is slowly running out of steam and in two years she’s no longer going to have a working car. She cannot afford her attorney which she found for the cheapest price possible while also guaranteeing that she had a chance to win the court case. 5) Is there any way to get reimbursement of the money he’s been owing my mom the last few years? and 6) How can we guarantee that from now on he’s paying the child support my mom is owed? This next portion is about medically related questions: My mom had two cancer surgeries at the beginning of the year, one for actual cancerous cells in her thyroid, and the other as a preventative surgery for precancerous cells in her uterus. My dad has access to all of the information on the billing about what doctors/procedures she had done since it’s his insurance. My dad has told me, and my brother (13yo but nonetheless ignorant of the whole situation) that my mom never actually had cancer and that both were preventative (which is true for one, but not the other) and he basically told us that my mom was making a much bigger deal out of it than it actually was. Now, keep in mind that when my mom told him she had cancer, he asked if she’d signed the divorce papers his lawyer had sent over. Not a single question about her cancer. He continued to add stress to her over signing the papers and other similar divorce things (seeing a mediator, responding with a counterclaim to his divorce filing, etc) while she was prepping for, and recovering from her cancer surgeries. 7)is there any legal recourse for this involving emotional damages? My mom is less interested in pursuing this route but just seeing all the stress she’s been under since this has started has all but destroyed her ability to relax. Now, my dad claimed he was getting audited by the IRS, and he needed my mom’s full medical receipts in order to straighten out things with the IRS. She sent them over despite being skeptical, but he was actually looking to see if she’d started me on Testosterone without his knowledge. 8) does he have any legal right to go stop my usage of testosterone at any point when I do start it? My final questions are in this paragraph, they are on minor’s privacy rights: My dad presented my mom with records detailing my usage and history of communication with everyone I’ve ever contacted using my phone. Now, I haven’t been doing anything wrong, but it still bothers me that he could potentially be seeing every single thing in writing on any social media I have (Snapchat, Instagram, tumblr, Pinterest, Reddit, Twitter, etc). I feel like I have a right to my privacy at the very least, esp. when I have not been doing anything wrong. I don’t talk to people older than 25, I don’t post every single second of my life on social media, and I don’t do anything illegal, so there’s no possible way for him to get anything to use against my mom in court (from what I know he knows) 9) Do I have the ability to protect my Information on my own phone? 10) could any legal action be taken against him for digging through my phone without my permission or even my knowledge? I would’ve handed over my phone for him to look through if he’d asked, but instead he’s gone behind my back to find out when I’ve been awake and on my phone, and to find information on the people I’ve been communicating with. My dad also has a habit of typing out very long, 3-6 paragraph texts that are usually fairly harsh, he constantly dismisses my mental health issues, and claims I am making up all of my “trans issues” to get attention. 11) Could my mom be at fault for me not responding to my dad’s texts? She asked me to be civil when I responded, and I cannot think of any nice way to respond to his texts, so I haven’t responded. Thank you all so much for reading this information dump, if you need clarification I will be combing through any and all comments you have, and I am also open to adding any information I may have forgotten here. I’m going to be posting the full list of questions just below this paragraph. 1) Is my mom able to medically consent to hrt (hormone replacement therapy) for me, without my father being included in the decision? 2) is there any way that after starting hrt without my dad’s consent that he could try and get legal custody of me under the premise of my mom being delusional and not looking out for my long term health, or any other similar thing? 3) Can he legally use this against my mom to get custody of me/my brother? 4) Can he legally get the court to order the discontinuation of me using my medicine, despite the fact that I’ve shown tremendous improvement? 5) Is there any way to get reimbursement of the money he’s been owing my mom the last few years? 6) How can we guarantee that from now on he’s paying the child support my mom is owed? 7)is there any legal recourse for this involving emotional damages? 8) does he have any legal right to go stop my usage of testosterone at any point when I do start it? 9) Do I have the ability to protect my Information on my own phone? 10) could any legal action be taken against him for digging through my phone without my permission or even my knowledge? 11) Could my mom be at fault for me not responding to my dad’s texts?
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Not a lawyer, but I am a tech-geek, so some of this falls into my sphere of interest. > 9) Do I have the ability to protect my Information on my own phone? So the first legal question here, is who owns the account? Someone is paying for your phone. If it's your mom, you have a good chance -- if it's your dad, you've got problems. If he's the one paying for the account, he has every legal right on the planet to access everything on it. It's not quite game over from a privacy standpoint, but it's very close. You also need to worry about parental permissions here -- just because you *can* hide things doesn't mean you *should*, and there may be consequences to avoiding parental supervision. I'd talk to your mother first about a lot of these. Now the good news is that from the sounds of it, he probably hasn't actually 'penetrated' your phone -- he's just using the cell company's logs to identify who you talk to, and when. But that's hard to diagnose with certainty with the degree of data you'e provided. That said, from a technical angle there _are_ some things you can do to limit his ability to snoop, even if he owns the account (some of these items, notably the first and fourth, are good ideas period): 1) **Change all your passwords. _All_ of them. *Right now* ** Try not to reuse the same password everywhere. There are services -- I use LastPass, there's KeyPass if you want to keep it local, and so on -- that help with this. Seriously, do this. *NOW*. Don't wait, don't pass go, don't collect 200$, and most assuredly don't read the rest of what I have to say until you do this. Start with your email account -- and I strongly recommend you use one that you can control yourself, such as a gmail account. School accounts can be opened up via the school, and there goes your security. (Legally, you may need to talk to your mother for permission to open said account). I don't have a doubt in my mind that you're reusing passwords, because almost everyone does, and that's a bad idea period. It means once he compromises you on one site, he has you on all of them. 2) Don't use apps, use a browser. And never select 'remember me'. If he owns the account, he probably has the ability to make snapshots of your device. And if an app uses a persistent log in token (or the browser has a persistent cookie), that's a vulnerability he *could* use to access your account. There are supposed to be protections against this, but defense in depth is better. 3) Anything you send/receive via the cell modem is automatically tracked by the cell company -- specifically, the entries are in logs. 99 times out of 100 nobody cares, I'm sorry to say it but it sounds like you may be the 1 out of a 100 where it matters. So you have two options: don't use the cell, or use a proxy to hide what you're doing. Note that SMS messages, since they're routed through the company, are compromised by default in your scenario. Note that this only hides *what* you are doing, not when. 4) Always use HTTPS, never use HTTP. This ties into the proxy advice, as well. If you use HTTPS, it's possible to tell *what* server you're contacting (say, facebook) but not what you're doing there. It's also nigh-impossible to modify your requests mid-flight, and if he's playing games by playing middleman to listen in on what you're doing, HTTPS has protections to detect that. Pay *attention* to the lock icon on your browser bar, and make sure it stays locked!
Wait, you say your parents separated a year ago and now your dad wants a divorce and full custody, but he's been paying child support for 10 years after leaving your family? Your story does not make sense.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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Tell him you'll only consider it if he pays you the 5 years of back rental income, lump sum, immediately. If he does, then you can say, "I considered it, and I'm not gonna do it." That's your house. You're nearly 30. You're not a kid. Not even close. There's no way he needs to control your property. You need to do what you need to do to get control of it. Also, to get the rental income coming to YOU, not your dad. I get that you don't want to destroy the relationship, but that's exactly what he's doing... he's trying to take what's yours and benefit from it, while claiming he's doing it "for your own good."
You've already gotten good advice in the other thread. Don't sign the house over. Your father has acted like this house was his for five years and taken the income from it, though he knew it wasn't his. On the other hand, he may have paid the property taxes, may have kept up the house, etc. So that's a good thing. You and your brother should probably speak with a lawyer and figure out how to reassert control over the property and decide what to do with it.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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Tell him you'll only consider it if he pays you the 5 years of back rental income, lump sum, immediately. If he does, then you can say, "I considered it, and I'm not gonna do it." That's your house. You're nearly 30. You're not a kid. Not even close. There's no way he needs to control your property. You need to do what you need to do to get control of it. Also, to get the rental income coming to YOU, not your dad. I get that you don't want to destroy the relationship, but that's exactly what he's doing... he's trying to take what's yours and benefit from it, while claiming he's doing it "for your own good."
It sounds like your dad is trying to hose you. Get a consultation with a probate attorney.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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I agree with an attorney but you should also consider that your mother may have had other assets that were in your name only. Was there a will?
You've already gotten good advice in the other thread. Don't sign the house over. Your father has acted like this house was his for five years and taken the income from it, though he knew it wasn't his. On the other hand, he may have paid the property taxes, may have kept up the house, etc. So that's a good thing. You and your brother should probably speak with a lawyer and figure out how to reassert control over the property and decide what to do with it.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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I agree with an attorney but you should also consider that your mother may have had other assets that were in your name only. Was there a will?
It sounds like your dad is trying to hose you. Get a consultation with a probate attorney.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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Follow up question for the lawers on the thread. Assuming he and/or his brother weren't notified after his mothers death, what kind of problems could the executor of her estate get into?
I agree with an attorney but you should also consider that your mother may have had other assets that were in your name only. Was there a will?
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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Please don't talk to your father anymore about this until you consult with an attorney. They can guide you in this. You have THREE properties that you and your brother should have AT LEAST majority control of. There is a lot of money on the line. To discuss it anymore with him or his attorney without talking with your own is a mistake. There is a great deal of risk and money on the line here. Also, your father sounds like a scum bag. You didn't and will not hurt your relationship. He did. Consider trying to transform these properties into a continual residual income. It could really transform your life allowing you to not be in a position of debt any more AND possibly having a survivable income for you and your brother.
I agree with an attorney but you should also consider that your mother may have had other assets that were in your name only. Was there a will?
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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I agree with an attorney but you should also consider that your mother may have had other assets that were in your name only. Was there a will?
I see you crossposted. You need a lawyer. You can't afford to not have one.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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It sounds like your dad is trying to hose you. Get a consultation with a probate attorney.
You've already gotten good advice in the other thread. Don't sign the house over. Your father has acted like this house was his for five years and taken the income from it, though he knew it wasn't his. On the other hand, he may have paid the property taxes, may have kept up the house, etc. So that's a good thing. You and your brother should probably speak with a lawyer and figure out how to reassert control over the property and decide what to do with it.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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Follow up question for the lawers on the thread. Assuming he and/or his brother weren't notified after his mothers death, what kind of problems could the executor of her estate get into?
You are being systematically and repeatedly robbed blind. Get your own fucking lawyer, don't sign anything that your father or your father's lawyer puts in front of you, and don't believe a single word out of your father's mouth. In fact, just stop talking to him altogether. Let your lawyer handle all correspondence from here.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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Please don't talk to your father anymore about this until you consult with an attorney. They can guide you in this. You have THREE properties that you and your brother should have AT LEAST majority control of. There is a lot of money on the line. To discuss it anymore with him or his attorney without talking with your own is a mistake. There is a great deal of risk and money on the line here. Also, your father sounds like a scum bag. You didn't and will not hurt your relationship. He did. Consider trying to transform these properties into a continual residual income. It could really transform your life allowing you to not be in a position of debt any more AND possibly having a survivable income for you and your brother.
You are being systematically and repeatedly robbed blind. Get your own fucking lawyer, don't sign anything that your father or your father's lawyer puts in front of you, and don't believe a single word out of your father's mouth. In fact, just stop talking to him altogether. Let your lawyer handle all correspondence from here.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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You are being systematically and repeatedly robbed blind. Get your own fucking lawyer, don't sign anything that your father or your father's lawyer puts in front of you, and don't believe a single word out of your father's mouth. In fact, just stop talking to him altogether. Let your lawyer handle all correspondence from here.
I see you crossposted. You need a lawyer. You can't afford to not have one.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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I'd get a copy of your mother's will to see what else he's stolen from you, and sue him for all of it plus stolen rent. DONT SIGN SHIT.
Follow up question for the lawers on the thread. Assuming he and/or his brother weren't notified after his mothers death, what kind of problems could the executor of her estate get into?
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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Please don't talk to your father anymore about this until you consult with an attorney. They can guide you in this. You have THREE properties that you and your brother should have AT LEAST majority control of. There is a lot of money on the line. To discuss it anymore with him or his attorney without talking with your own is a mistake. There is a great deal of risk and money on the line here. Also, your father sounds like a scum bag. You didn't and will not hurt your relationship. He did. Consider trying to transform these properties into a continual residual income. It could really transform your life allowing you to not be in a position of debt any more AND possibly having a survivable income for you and your brother.
I'd get a copy of your mother's will to see what else he's stolen from you, and sue him for all of it plus stolen rent. DONT SIGN SHIT.
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Inherited a house I didn't know about and now dad wants me to sign it over to him so he can "set up a trust fund"...any advice appreciated (x-post from r/personal finance) A little background: I will be 30 years old next week, and I live in an apartment with my 31 year old brother. We both still have a lot of student loan debt and other expenses, but we manage to get by. Five years ago, our mother died of cancer. My dad, who I used to be very close with, suddenly became like a whole different person (as sometimes happens following a tragedy), and a year after mom dies he starts dating this other woman. They move very quickly, planning a trip to Europe within a couple weeks of meeting one another, and within six months he's basically moved in with her. At this point, my brother and I were still living at home trying to save some money while paying off some our college loans (I was 26 and bro was 27), and suddenly dad wants us to move out ASAP so he can sell the house. I found out much later that she was the one pulling the strings and urging him to kick us out, that we were just "freeloaders" (even though we were giving dad as much money as we could afford a month to help with expenses while still saving/paying down debt). Sidenote: she has been divorced 3 times now, dad will be her 4th marriage. Red flag. So that's what we do. I find a nice apartment within our price range and we move out. So now it's 3 years later, my dad is ready to marry this woman in 3 weeks, and I get a call out of the blue from him (we rarely speak even though both my brother and I are in the wedding). Turns out one of the houses (he has two) dad rents out in Louisiana (we live in MA) was actually in my mom's name and my brother and I's name, meaning that when she died 5 years ago, we inherited it. This is the first I've heard of it. So his reason for the call was to tell us that he wants to "save us the headache of dealing with a house" and instead set up a trust fund with the money from the house, but in order to do so, we have to sign the house over to him before the wedding, and he wants us to meet with him and a lawyer within the next week or so. I will admit I'm pretty ignorant to stuff of this nature since I've never had to deal with it before, so at first glance I didn't question this and told him okay, that's nice, because I really don't want to deal with a house either. I didn't really think more about it until this morning when I mentioned it to a couple of my coworkers and they were like "whooaa wait a minute, you guys are over 30, why would you need a trust fund when you should just get the money?" They also know the ongoing dramatic saga that has been my relationship with my father over the last 5 years, so they told me it sounded like him and his fiance want the money before the wedding. I don't know what to think. Is there something I'm missing? What questions should I be asking? I really don't want to destroy whatever is left of my relationship with my father if I can avoid it, but I also don't want to throw away the possibility of finally being able to pay down our debt and live a more comfortable life. I've been dreaming about not living paycheck to paycheck for years.
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I'd get a copy of your mother's will to see what else he's stolen from you, and sue him for all of it plus stolen rent. DONT SIGN SHIT.
I see you crossposted. You need a lawyer. You can't afford to not have one.
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