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"Shaun Keenan":"<@U03MWECKQBY> has joined the channel"
"Shaun Keenan":"serverless VPC connector also had some pretty severe bandwidth limitations last I checked"
"Shaun Keenan":"Which vertex ai product?"
"Shaun Keenan":"I can't see the channel, feel free to invite me and I'll see if I can help. Been working with it recently for another client"
"Shaun Keenan":"<@U02RSJT9ZCM> can you share the ticket? Also do you have a copy of the zip they sent to guilhem?"
"Shaun Keenan":"Wonder if it's a quota or permissions (on a default SA) thing"
"Shaun Keenan":"so, of course :lolsob: I hop on Zoom with him and it magically works"
"Shaun Keenan":"could be"
"Shaun Keenan":"the one thing I did that might’ve been different w/ Gil was that I told him to use the default Compute SA; I think he was using a different one that probably didn’t have the permissions it needed"
"Shaun Keenan":"wanted to double-check Ambassador’s mTLS client cert verification support works well enough for a project - in case anyone needs a starting point for a similar use case, I created <https://github.com/zencore-dev/dev-ambassador-mtls>"
"Shaun Keenan":"I’ve used it with Istio before but hadn’t done forced client auth before, this was just a quick PoC"
"Shaun Keenan":"<@U03NTDJNE3T> I started putting <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vu6yCjny9OPp9n9Ukl-wEjluMJe2qlDGcmr7VzPPlpE/edit\|this> together when I joined a few weeks ago FYI, hopefully it helps w/ onboarding basics"
"Shaun Keenan":"GCP sandboxes or trying to sink the company with BQ queries? :joy: sandbox stuff is already in there"
"Shaun Keenan":"I’ll make sure that’s in there :stuck_out_tongue:"
"Shaun Keenan":"I wonder who that is…"
"Shaun Keenan":"Anyone have hands on experience with matching engine? I'm helping with an Espressive deal that might fall through because indexing is super slow, got a CE lined up for a conversation today or tomorrow. I can lead but if any of you have worked a similar issue it might help to have some extra content"
"Shaun Keenan":"I second the cloud run/pubsub approach for streaming. Used and works well"
"Shaun Keenan":"If not no worries, I have enough context"
"Shaun Keenan":"I helped Ficc with some matching engine and have written ML stuff in the past"
"Shaun Keenan":"Actually they support streaming now for matching engine. It's in preview"
"Shaun Keenan":"I can have the CE send over the user guide if you're interested"
"Shaun Keenan":"<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LWMnjvGy2saozvZ2YFdfWqWC6RzukbfEjQL_PUfhXKg/edit#>"
"Shaun Keenan":"Heads up y’all, I’m working on reorganizing our GCP org a bit (per <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6YLo6KvVdfdoaISfXOOcp5FVyLTOW_UcBkH2TcHYfA/edit#gid=229784434>) so you may see folders move around, including your `*-assets` folders moving to the `sandbox` folder"
"Shaun Keenan":"derp"
"Shaun Keenan":"oh lolol sorry"
"Shaun Keenan":"<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6YLo6KvVdfdoaISfXOOcp5FVyLTOW_UcBkH2TcHYfA/edit#gid=229784434>"
"Shaun Keenan":"on a side note, here’s the latest PR for the org TF: <https://github.com/zencore-dev/zencore-gcp-org-tf/pull/3>"
"Shaun Keenan":"FYI if anyone needs a reusable github actions workflow for TF…. <https://github.com/zencore-dev/terraform-gcp-actions-workflows>"
"Shaun Keenan":"it’s almost hard to tell whether acorn is just an elaborate joke :joy:"
"Shaun Keenan":"everything can be solved with yet another layer of abstraction"
"Shaun Keenan":"yep"
"Shaun Keenan":"one could use a Helm library chart with simplified values to do most of the same stuff, minus the simple wrapper for building OCI images, which I don’t think I’d care much about anyways"
"Shaun Keenan":"looks like this wraps <https://cloud.google.com/anthos-config-management/docs/concepts/blueprints> ?"
"Shaun Keenan":"was thinking this was one component of that system"
"Shaun Keenan":"interesting for greenfield workloads, seems like this would be a pain for brownfield. nice guardrails"
"Shaun Keenan":"the pattern they’ve implemented is pretty reasonable"
"Shaun Keenan":"different branches for each env == nightmare waiting to happen, though. I’m having nightmares about merge conflicts already"
"Shaun Keenan":"yep"
"Shaun Keenan":"exactly :joy:"
"Shaun Keenan":"lol, first result from a “gitops branching strategy” search summarizes the problems perfectly <https://codefresh.io/blog/stop-using-branches-deploying-different-gitops-environments/>"
"Shaun Keenan":"_You should NOT use Git branches for modeling different environments. If the Git repository holding your configuration (manifests/templates in the case of Kubernetes) has branches named “staging”, “QA”, “Production” and so on, then you have fallen into a trap._"
"Shaun Keenan":"github is down it seems"
"Shaun Keenan":"back for me, was down about 10-15 mins"
"Shaun Keenan":"I’d agree w/ the new project per test thing if they have to use custom roles and each role absolutely has to be unique"
"Shaun Keenan":"that being said, I’d really want to understand why they need unique custom roles for each test."
"Shaun Keenan":"and/or why built-in roles can’t be used"
"Shaun Keenan":"they could create multiple roles for the things it needs access to and assign whichever ones are needed to the SA"
"Shaun Keenan":"rather than one custom role per app, create 10-20 custom roles for the whole org and assign the required ones to each SA"
"Shaun Keenan":"*“for the whole org” meaning org-level roles"
"Shaun Keenan":"I’m suggesting dividing the permissions up into units, e.g. their version of CloudSQL viewer or editor, cloud function run, etc, and then assign a few of those roles to SA’s"
"Shaun Keenan":"without knowing the characteristics of their app’s permissions needs it’s hard to describe well"
"Shaun Keenan":"approved"
"Shaun Keenan":":lolsob: DataDog can’t decide what buzzword to call their host metrics filtering stuff (only pull metrics for hosts that match some filter\nHost Filters or Tags?:\n<https://registry.terraform.io/providers/DataDog/datadog/latest/docs/resources/integration_gcp#host_filters>\n> Limit the GCE instances that are pulled into Datadog by using tags\nor, is it Labels? <https://docs.datadoghq.com/integrations/google_cloud_platform/#configuration>\n> Only hosts that match one of the defined tags are imported into Datadog\n> See Google’s documentation on <https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/labeling-resources\|Creating and managing><https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/labeling-resources\| labels> for more details.\n"
"Shaun Keenan":"yeah, even if it doesn’t technically fit the P2 criteria…. P3's are totally ignored"
"Shaun Keenan":"I hate those “we’re working on it” updates :facepalm:"
"Shaun Keenan":"Gaston and I won’t be at eng as we have a customer call"
"Shaun Keenan":"me, PCA"
"Shaun Keenan":"heads up, google’s deprecating OAuth out-of-band refresh tokens on 10/3, don’t be surprised if we get some :fire: messages"
"Shaun Keenan":"<https://developers.google.com/identity/protocols/oauth2/resources/oob-migration>"
"Shaun Keenan":"it worked on my machine :trollface:"
"Shaun Keenan":"ouch"
"Shaun Keenan":":mindblown: Postgres in your browser <https://github.com/snaplet/postgres-wasm?utm_source=tldrnewsletter>"
"Shaun Keenan":"how can I help"
"Shaun Keenan":"FYI if any of you need to set up / play with GitLab, I created a ZenCore gitlab org: <https://gitlab.com/zencore-dev> - request access and I’ll add you."
"Shaun Keenan":"you should be able to request access to the group from that page"
"Shaun Keenan":"I think <https://gitlab.com/groups/zencore-dev/-/group_members/request_access> will do it once you’re logged in"
"Shaun Keenan":"then just go to <https://gitlab.com/zencore-dev> and hit the request access button"
"Shaun Keenan":"right next to the group id"
"Shaun Keenan":"ahh lol"
"Shaun Keenan":"try again"
"Shaun Keenan":"I accidentally set it up as private"
"Shaun Keenan":"you’re in"
"Shaun Keenan":"alert, meaning an email?"
"Shaun Keenan":"or a slack message or some other type of notification"
"Shaun Keenan":"email is built in, easy to send. slack is pretty simple, but requires a couple more steps"
"Shaun Keenan":"I can hop on meet/hangouts with you if you’d like to walk through that"
"Shaun Keenan":"which time zone?"
"Shaun Keenan":"yeah I’m free all afternoon"
"Shaun Keenan":"weird, I could have sworn we set up all eng with sandbox folder admin"
"Shaun Keenan":null
"Shaun Keenan":"but stupid GCP IAM, apparently being able to admin a folder doesn’t mean being able to delete the projects"
"Shaun Keenan":"I hate that lol"
"Shaun Keenan":"can you drop an MR to add owner to that"
"Shaun Keenan":"yeah. and maybe project deleter if owner doesn’t include that"
"Shaun Keenan":"yeah owner doesn’t actually say which IAM permissions it has"
"Shaun Keenan":"which is also very annoying"
"Shaun Keenan":"it does say _Manage roles and permissions for a project and all resources within the project._"
"Shaun Keenan":"so maybe add both"
"Shaun Keenan":"yeah, folder admin lets you create projects but not delete them"
"Shaun Keenan":"so dumb"
"Shaun Keenan":"Owner is a role"
"Shaun Keenan":"project owner == owner"
"Shaun Keenan":"so yeah, owner and project deleter"
"Shaun Keenan":"or just project deleter"
"Shaun Keenan":"slack threads are not working today it seems so if anyone needs anything make sure to @ and/or put directly in channel instead of thread"
"Shaun Keenan":"gold :joy: <https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/10/30/5tb/>"
"Shaun Keenan":"<https://twitter.com/moyix/status/1581069716231049216>"
"Shaun Keenan":":mindblown:"
"Shaun Keenan":"me typing a job name and just pressing tab"
"Shaun Keenan":"6B <@U01S53DL278>"

"Shaun Keenan":"<@U03MWECKQBY> has joined the channel"

"Shaun Keenan":"serverless VPC connector also had some pretty severe bandwidth limitations last I checked"

"Shaun Keenan":"Which vertex ai product?"

"Shaun Keenan":"I can't see the channel, feel free to invite me and I'll see if I can help. Been working with it recently for another client"

"Shaun Keenan":"<@U02RSJT9ZCM> can you share the ticket? Also do you have a copy of the zip they sent to guilhem?"

"Shaun Keenan":"Wonder if it's a quota or permissions (on a default SA) thing"

"Shaun Keenan":"so, of course :lolsob: I hop on Zoom with him and it magically works"

"Shaun Keenan":"could be"

"Shaun Keenan":"the one thing I did that might’ve been different w/ Gil was that I told him to use the default Compute SA; I think he was using a different one that probably didn’t have the permissions it needed"

"Shaun Keenan":"wanted to double-check Ambassador’s mTLS client cert verification support works well enough for a project - in case anyone needs a starting point for a similar use case, I created <https://github.com/zencore-dev/dev-ambassador-mtls>"

"Shaun Keenan":"I’ve used it with Istio before but hadn’t done forced client auth before, this was just a quick PoC"

"Shaun Keenan":"<@U03NTDJNE3T> I started putting <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vu6yCjny9OPp9n9Ukl-wEjluMJe2qlDGcmr7VzPPlpE/edit|this> together when I joined a few weeks ago FYI, hopefully it helps w/ onboarding basics"

"Shaun Keenan":"GCP sandboxes or trying to sink the company with BQ queries? :joy: sandbox stuff is already in there"

"Shaun Keenan":"I’ll make sure that’s in there :stuck_out_tongue:"

"Shaun Keenan":"I wonder who that is…"

"Shaun Keenan":"Anyone have hands on experience with matching engine? I'm helping with an Espressive deal that might fall through because indexing is super slow, got a CE lined up for a conversation today or tomorrow. I can lead but if any of you have worked a similar issue it might help to have some extra content"

"Shaun Keenan":"I second the cloud run/pubsub approach for streaming. Used and works well"

"Shaun Keenan":"If not no worries, I have enough context"

"Shaun Keenan":"I helped Ficc with some matching engine and have written ML stuff in the past"

"Shaun Keenan":"Actually they support streaming now for matching engine. It's in preview"

"Shaun Keenan":"I can have the CE send over the user guide if you're interested"

"Shaun Keenan":"<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LWMnjvGy2saozvZ2YFdfWqWC6RzukbfEjQL_PUfhXKg/edit#>"

"Shaun Keenan":"Heads up y’all, I’m working on reorganizing our GCP org a bit (per <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6YLo6KvVdfdoaISfXOOcp5FVyLTOW_UcBkH2TcHYfA/edit#gid=229784434>) so you may see folders move around, including your `*-assets` folders moving to the `sandbox` folder"

"Shaun Keenan":"derp"

"Shaun Keenan":"oh lolol sorry"

"Shaun Keenan":"<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6YLo6KvVdfdoaISfXOOcp5FVyLTOW_UcBkH2TcHYfA/edit#gid=229784434>"

"Shaun Keenan":"on a side note, here’s the latest PR for the org TF: <https://github.com/zencore-dev/zencore-gcp-org-tf/pull/3>"

"Shaun Keenan":"FYI if anyone needs a reusable github actions workflow for TF…. <https://github.com/zencore-dev/terraform-gcp-actions-workflows>"

"Shaun Keenan":"it’s almost hard to tell whether acorn is just an elaborate joke :joy:"

"Shaun Keenan":"everything can be solved with yet another layer of abstraction"

"Shaun Keenan":"yep"

"Shaun Keenan":"one could use a Helm library chart with simplified values to do most of the same stuff, minus the simple wrapper for building OCI images, which I don’t think I’d care much about anyways"

"Shaun Keenan":"looks like this wraps <https://cloud.google.com/anthos-config-management/docs/concepts/blueprints> ?"

"Shaun Keenan":"was thinking this was one component of that system"

"Shaun Keenan":"interesting for greenfield workloads, seems like this would be a pain for brownfield. nice guardrails"

"Shaun Keenan":"the pattern they’ve implemented is pretty reasonable"

"Shaun Keenan":"different branches for each env == nightmare waiting to happen, though. I’m having nightmares about merge conflicts already"

"Shaun Keenan":"yep"

"Shaun Keenan":"exactly :joy:"

"Shaun Keenan":"lol, first result from a “gitops branching strategy” search summarizes the problems perfectly <https://codefresh.io/blog/stop-using-branches-deploying-different-gitops-environments/>"

"Shaun Keenan":"_You should NOT use Git branches for modeling different environments. If the Git repository holding your configuration (manifests/templates in the case of Kubernetes) has branches named “staging”, “QA”, “Production” and so on, then you have fallen into a trap._"

"Shaun Keenan":"github is down it seems"

"Shaun Keenan":"back for me, was down about 10-15 mins"

"Shaun Keenan":"I’d agree w/ the new project per test thing if they have to use custom roles and each role absolutely has to be unique"

"Shaun Keenan":"that being said, I’d really want to understand why they need unique custom roles for each test."

"Shaun Keenan":"and/or why built-in roles can’t be used"

"Shaun Keenan":"they could create multiple roles for the things it needs access to and assign whichever ones are needed to the SA"

"Shaun Keenan":"rather than one custom role per app, create 10-20 custom roles for the whole org and assign the required ones to each SA"

"Shaun Keenan":"*“for the whole org” meaning org-level roles"

"Shaun Keenan":"I’m suggesting dividing the permissions up into units, e.g. their version of CloudSQL viewer or editor, cloud function run, etc, and then assign a few of those roles to SA’s"

"Shaun Keenan":"without knowing the characteristics of their app’s permissions needs it’s hard to describe well"

"Shaun Keenan":"approved"

"Shaun Keenan":":lolsob: DataDog can’t decide what buzzword to call their host metrics filtering stuff (only pull metrics for hosts that match some filter\nHost Filters or Tags?:\n<https://registry.terraform.io/providers/DataDog/datadog/latest/docs/resources/integration_gcp#host_filters>\n> Limit the GCE instances that are pulled into Datadog by using tags\nor, is it Labels? <https://docs.datadoghq.com/integrations/google_cloud_platform/#configuration>\n> Only hosts that match one of the defined *tags* are imported into Datadog\n> See Google’s documentation on <https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/labeling-resources|Creating and managing>*<https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/labeling-resources| labels>* for more details.\n"

"Shaun Keenan":"yeah, even if it doesn’t technically fit the P2 criteria…. P3's are totally ignored"

"Shaun Keenan":"I hate those “we’re working on it” updates :facepalm:"

"Shaun Keenan":"Gaston and I won’t be at eng as we have a customer call"

"Shaun Keenan":"me, PCA"

"Shaun Keenan":"heads up, google’s deprecating OAuth out-of-band refresh tokens on 10/3, don’t be surprised if we get some :fire: messages"

"Shaun Keenan":"<https://developers.google.com/identity/protocols/oauth2/resources/oob-migration>"

"Shaun Keenan":"it worked on my machine :trollface:"

"Shaun Keenan":"ouch"

"Shaun Keenan":":mindblown: Postgres in your browser <https://github.com/snaplet/postgres-wasm?utm_source=tldrnewsletter>"

"Shaun Keenan":"how can I help"

"Shaun Keenan":"FYI if any of you need to set up / play with GitLab, I created a ZenCore gitlab org: <https://gitlab.com/zencore-dev> - request access and I’ll add you."

"Shaun Keenan":"you should be able to request access to the group from that page"

"Shaun Keenan":"I think <https://gitlab.com/groups/zencore-dev/-/group_members/request_access> will do it once you’re logged in"

"Shaun Keenan":"then just go to <https://gitlab.com/zencore-dev> and hit the request access button"

"Shaun Keenan":"right next to the group id"

"Shaun Keenan":"ahh lol"

"Shaun Keenan":"try again"

"Shaun Keenan":"I accidentally set it up as private"

"Shaun Keenan":"you’re in"

"Shaun Keenan":"alert, meaning an email?"

"Shaun Keenan":"or a slack message or some other type of notification"

"Shaun Keenan":"email is built in, easy to send. slack is pretty simple, but requires a couple more steps"

"Shaun Keenan":"I can hop on meet/hangouts with you if you’d like to walk through that"

"Shaun Keenan":"which time zone?"

"Shaun Keenan":"yeah I’m free all afternoon"

"Shaun Keenan":"weird, I could have sworn we set up all eng with sandbox folder admin"

"Shaun Keenan":null

"Shaun Keenan":"but stupid GCP IAM, apparently being able to admin a folder doesn’t mean being able to delete the projects"

"Shaun Keenan":"I hate that lol"

"Shaun Keenan":"can you drop an MR to add owner to that"

"Shaun Keenan":"yeah. and maybe project deleter if owner doesn’t include that"

"Shaun Keenan":"yeah owner doesn’t actually say which IAM permissions it has"

"Shaun Keenan":"which is also very annoying"

"Shaun Keenan":"it does say _Manage roles and permissions for a project and all resources *within* the project._"

"Shaun Keenan":"so maybe add both"

"Shaun Keenan":"yeah, folder admin lets you create projects but not delete them"

"Shaun Keenan":"so dumb"

"Shaun Keenan":"Owner is a role"

"Shaun Keenan":"project owner == owner"

"Shaun Keenan":"so yeah, owner and project deleter"

"Shaun Keenan":"or just project deleter"

"Shaun Keenan":"slack threads are not working today it seems so if anyone needs anything make sure to @ and/or put directly in channel instead of thread"

"Shaun Keenan":"gold :joy: <https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/10/30/5tb/>"

"Shaun Keenan":"<https://twitter.com/moyix/status/1581069716231049216>"

"Shaun Keenan":":mindblown:"

"Shaun Keenan":"me typing a job name and just pressing tab"

"Shaun Keenan":"6B <@U01S53DL278>"

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