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<s>[INST] Power Supply In ControlLogix Chassis, there are 4 voltages regulated from power supply: 1.2V, 3.3V, 5V, and 24V. What are these voltages used for? [/INST] The two most used voltages coming from PS are 5V and 24V (I/O modules, processors...) Anyway, all these voltages are used by chassis and modules; you may find some indications in the Selection Guide. Search in the .pdf file for 1.2 and 3.3 as keywords... and you will see where they're used. :smileysurprised: Screenshot has an example... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Tag browsing What we have is a L64 processor that is deep into the yellow of the used memory. The system has already 3 processors 2 for motion and the third for the logic and recipe information. The the recipe tags are 6 UDT's that contain 50 potential Models for a total of 300 Recipes. These 6 UDT's use about 10 M of data. We have come up with two solutions and would like some feed back:The current batch look through UDT 1 for a match then UDT 2 then 3 so on so on till it finds a match. It then copies the Data to a tracking area that follows the part though the system. This way each we can have differnt models with different options through out the line. Solution 1:Can I have the batch search a fourth Processor tags as if it were it's own that would contain the Model data tags directly over the back plain and copy the matching Models information to its Tracking area. Solution 2:Create a Produced tag in the original Processor that asks the Data processor for model information. Then the Data Processor would search the 6 UDT areas for a match. When one is found copy the Model Data to a produced tag along with a complete hand-off bit. Then the Original Processor would consume this data after seeing the complete bit. Then copy this information to the necessary Tracking area. After completing the copy clear the hand-off tag. There’s probably a bit more to the steps of solution 2. I’m confident we could get it to work the main question is about solution 1. Is that possible to brows the tags of a different processor as if they where you own tags. [/INST] capple, I think solution 2 is the only. It isn't possible to browse directly tags that resides in another controller using RS5000... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic I though so but I knew I would get a concrete answer here Thanks The Produced/Consumed tags did not work. The size of 1 Model_Data is 20K. So now I am using a Message (CIP Data table Read) now my dilemma is to change the Source Element during Run Time. I need this to be an Indirect Tag but it did not accept one. So far the work around I found was to make a pointer array of 300 Strings then call the pointer that contains the required String and copy it to the Mesage_Control.RemoteElement. Now the question is how do I eliminate the array of 300 strings and just make some kind of move instruction to move a tag like:S001.Model_Data[Indirect Number] <<<< UPDATE>>>>I came up with a solution and thought I would share Using the DTOS and INSERT Instructions.I haven’t cleaned this up to a final project but here is what I tested. // Update Line A Model Dataif S100.Batch.Data.Order[1].Model_Number[0]=S001.Model_Data[1].Model_Number then Batch_Search.Control[1].Search_Required:=0; Line_A_Search:=0;else cop(S100.Batch.Data.Order[1].Model_Number[0],Batch_Search.Model_Name[1],1); Batch_Search.Control[1].Search_Required:=1; Line_A_Search:=1;end_if; // Prepare MSG Remote Data Location If Line_A_Search then if Model_Location.S001>0 and Model_Location.S001<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S001,SourceB[1]); Insert(SourceA[1],SourceB[1],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S001.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S002>0 and Model_Location.S002<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S002,SourceB[2]); Insert(SourceA[2],SourceB[2],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S002.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S003>0 and Model_Location.S003<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S003,SourceB[3]); Insert(SourceA[3],SourceB[3],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S003.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S004>0 and Model_Location.S004<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S004,SourceB[4]); Insert(SourceA[4],SourceB[4],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S004.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S005>0 and Model_Location.S005<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S005,SourceB[5]); Insert(SourceA[5],SourceB[5],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S005.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S006>0 and Model_Location.S006<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S006,SourceB[6]); Insert(SourceA[6],SourceB[6],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S006.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; else cop(SourceB[0],SourceB[1],6);end_if; Then I use a MSG to get the Value of the desired Model_Data \n </s>

<s>[INST] RS View ME upgrade from CPR7, 4.1 to CPR9 5.1 I just upgraded to CPR9 logix 5000 V17, when I tried to open my RS View, it would not let it open, tried to down load 5.1, but instructed me to remove old program, removed old program, and tried to download new version, it then asked for old program, when I tried to reload old version of ME it was not compatible with CPR9 and would not reload. Please help me. [/INST] Sounds like the old version of ME did not get fully removed. Chances are this one will need some heavy duty cleaning. Best bet is to contact tech support directly (either by Chat or phone). JHutch \n </s>

<s>[INST] Panelbuilder 32 Russian Language I am having trouble copy and pasting translated text into Panelbuilder 32. It just brings up question marks in the editor. The text I have is in a word document and is translated into Russian. Has anyone had success pasting in a language translation that is not one of the five default(english, french, german, italian, spanish)? [/INST] I think you're going to have trouble with this one. It isn't a matter of the language that's selected (the 5 that you mention), but the font that you can use. I've played around with the external font stuff, and I've gotten chinese characters to show up on my PB32 screen. But no matter what I try, I cannot get Cyrillic, or even Greek characters to display, outside of a few (ß and µ). The problem seems to lie in the fact that PB32 can only recognize the 255 ASCII characters in the basic set, and not the expanded Unicode set. Now it could be that Rockwell has a Russian.otf or Cyrillic.otf file somewhere, for a price. Or perhaps you can Google one. If so, then you just have to:a) Create a Font folder in C:\Program Files\Allen Bradley\Panelbuilder32b) Copy the Cyrillic.otf file there. (You can look in C:\Program Files\Allen Bradley\pbex for other .otf files)c) Go to Application Settings | External Font and enable the font file.d) Create some text, and use the font size (8x12) instead of 8x12. The one in parenthesis is the External Font.e) Figure out the correct code for each desired letter - it almost certainly won't be the same unicode value that your Word doc uses.Old Windows trick: There is a program called Character Map that comes with Windows, but isn't usually installed by default. You can use it to look at a font file (but sadly, not the OTF files). Some characters have a keystroke - if you hold down the ALT key while typing the 4 digit code on the numeric keypad, then release the ALT, you get the weird character. My signature below is made of ALT+0245, ALT+0191, ALT+0245, ALT+172, Good luck. Allen is on the right track... The PanelView family predates Unicode, so it does not support it. You need a font encoded in DBCS (Double Byte Character Set). See AID19415 for some general information on external font support. See AID38874 for some information (and a font file example) for Russian. JHutch This can be done but it involves creating a new font with Font tool ,enabling external fonts and adding Russian as a language on the terminal you are using. When typing in the text box enable Russian on the terminal and use the on-screen keyboard feature of XP. It can be done but is quite involved. \n </s>

<s>[INST] Check if database tag exists Does FTViewSE have a function that checks whether a particular tag exists in the tag database?In Intouch I have a function tagExists(tagname) that I use a bit. [/INST] When you initially set up an application, you use the tag browser to tie a tag name to an object. you dont see it in the tag browser, either its not talking or it isnt there. \n </s>

<s>[INST] WMF File Scrolling and Zoom Capabilities I have WMF format drawings imported to RSViewME and PanelView Plus but the images are not useful unless I can Zoom and Scroll. Can this be accomplished or will I have to dissect the images into smaller sections? [/INST] From the ViewME User Manual:Windows metafiles (.wmf) and AutoCAD® (.dxf) files are converted to drawing objects (such as lines, ellipses, and polygons) when you import them. You can edit the drawing objects the same way you edit drawing objects that you create in FactoryTalk View.Depending on the complexity of the metafile or AutoCAD file, the converted image could consist of 500 or more drawing objects. This would lead to long display load times. In this case, it would be better to covert the .wmf or .dxf file to a bitmap, and then display the bitmap in an image object.After imported, the file is converted to drawing objects and grouped, and then the grouped object is placed in the graphic display. So,you don't need to dissect your file (it is enough to ungroup the imported object); after that you can use Animation to change the dimensions or the position of the object dynamically as you need,linking the object attributes to a tag or an expression. \n </s>

<s>[INST] PV550 -> SLC 5/04 comm failed I can’t get my PV550 (dh485) to talk to my SLC 5/04. I set up the comms to point to the SLC 5/04 and I think I’ve got all the nodes numbers right, but … nothing. What am I missing? [/INST] This may sound like a dumb question, but it's easy to get the wrong one. Which cable are you using? The SLC5/04 uses a 1747-CP3 to connect to your computer. *BUT* to connect it to a PV550, you use a 2711-NC13. The pinouts are completely different. (If you only have a CP3, you can change the pinout to match a NC13 cable is you attach a null-modem adapter to one end.) JHutch Is the SLC set up for DH485? The serial port defaults to DF1. Doesn't a SLC 5/04 have a DH+ and RS232T configuration, where the Rs232 is configurable for communicating through a 1761-NET-AICfor a DH485 network, therefore are you going through a Net-AIC to interface w/ the PV550. Depending on which PV550 rhonda is using, the Net-AIC may not be necessary. For instance, a 2711-b5a5 PV550 has a RS232 (dh485) port ... so you would directly connect to the channel 0 on the SLC with a 2711-NC13 cable. JHutch \n </s>

<s>[INST] RSLinx Classic on VMWare Has anyone run RSLinx Classic on VMWare and what is your experience with it? [/INST] I think that you will get many answers on this thread... :smileyvery-happy: My experience is good on that, I'm using it every day (now I have RSLinx Classic 2.53) and it works very well with Ethernet or Serial drivers. Anyway, here another thread (from another forum :smileymad: ) that contains other users experiences. http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/archive/index.php/t-34184.html Also a KB note about the fact that it is currently not supported by RA and general info about Virtual Environments.Aid 30209 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I use it on VMWare Workstation 6 for serial and ethernet. It works fine in those cases but you cannot use the PCMK dirver. I use it almost daily as I have to support multiple software versions for Logix, RSView32, ME and SE. \n </s>

<s>[INST] How PC can talk to PLC through Rslinx support? [/INST] Basically, RSLinx Classic is a DDE/OPC server (except Lite version) so every software that can be a client for these communications could be able to connect your PC to the PLC, to get real-time plant data. These softwares could be commercial SCADA or just some custom clients made using VB or C languages...also MS Excel could access PLC data easily... If you need more specific infos, please post again your particular needs.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Best Way To Improve Tag Write Performance from VBA? Hello all - I am writing to several tags within various VBA subroutines and have noticed very poor performance (i.e.: setting 5 tags in a single subroutine will take several seconds to complete). Are there any best practices to follow in order to improve this? Thanks! [/INST] pittpanther, I guess you're talking about RSView32... :smileytongue: Have a look to these KB notes: Aid 44389Aid 3595Aid 4997 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Is this as Fuzzy suggests – RSview32 or is it RSViewSE? It is important because the methods of communicating are different. The timing you give is reminiscent of RSViewSE V3.0. Thank you for the responses fuzzy logic and Yorkshire Man... I was referring to RSView32. Aid4997 seems to have helped (utilizing a tag collection). The only caveat is that your tags of interest have to be query-able with a wildcard string (i.e.: have to be in the same folder, etc.) Thanks again! \n </s>

<s>[INST] View Alarm History on Panelview Component Does anyone know if the Panelview Component supports an Alarm History page? [/INST] EDIT: updated link for help files -FL Yes, it does... following is from inside Help files: Alarm history The alarm history stores alarms as they are triggered. Alarms that have logging disabled on the Alarms tab will not be logged to the alarm history. The alarm history is saved to nonvolatile or flash memory in the terminal so can be retained through a power cycle. The alarm history stores up to 100 alarms. The initial default is 50. You can: clear or retain the alarm history when the terminal restarts. change the size of the alarm history. export the alarm history log. Tip The Alarm List object is a list that displays alarms in the alarm history. When the operator acknowledges or clears alarms from the list, they are also acknowledged or cleared from the alarm history. Take a look to BF5864, and download the WebHelp files with all the explanations. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic #HL41 There is a tabular 'Alarm List' object that displays all of the alarms in the alarm history, and can be customized somewhat as far as what columns (Ack Status, Date/Time triggered, etc) are shown. You can create a screen and place one of these objects almost full-size to provide an 'Alarm History' page. This control does require up/down keys to be placed on touch terminals for navigation (can also use pg up/pg down, and home/end). The Enter key can also be used to acknowledge alarms via this control. The additional alarm button controls (ack all, clear all) can be used in conjunction as well. The number of rows in the PanelView Component alarm list object does not dictate the number of alarms in the history - you can have a history buffer of 100 (specified in the Alarms section of the designer), but a display object that only has 5 lines - you'll need to scroll to see them all. The Alarm History is a single queue of events - if you clear the queue, the alarm history object will then be blank (until more alarms come in), and if you export the alarm history file from the terminal, it will also be blank. \n </s>

<s>[INST] Upgrading to Factory Talk Studio I am on a commissioning trip and need to upgrade to Factory Talk Studio 5.00 to be able to work on an existing Panelview Plus application. If I do so, how will this effect all my other projects that are currently on my laptop in the lower version of RS Studio? [/INST] Brian, you will be able to open your *old* projects using version 5.00, but after that you'll not be able to open them again with version 4.00, as per the fact they will be converted. Anyway, you have the possibility to create a .mer file from 5.00 to earlier version 4.00, 3.20, 3.10, 3.00. In order to check the differances between versions, you may take a look to the following User Manual... appendix G http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/viewme-um005_-en-e.pdf Also have a look to the following technote: Aid 44333 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] RSView Enterprise File Viewer I am using this utility to temporarily gain access to the ME alarm log file. It serves its purpose for now. I am trying to use the command line switches so I can automate the creation of a CSV file at the end of each shift. It appears as though it accepts the history file, setup file and CSV file as arguments but it doesn't allow me to pick the version of the View application. I get an error that says The alarm setup file and log file can not match. I can recreate this error message if I manually use the utility program and select the wrong version of the View application. So I am confident that without defining this argument I will get this message. The command line won't accept this as an argument. Anyone know any ways around this? Thanks in advance. [/INST] Pretty old thread... just to try to help anyway.... :smileytongue: I've tested the conversion using last Viewer Utility version 1.6.03 from Aid 33924 and seems to work fine for me... :smileysurprised: I've used the following syntax in the Command line: RSView Enterprise File Viewer.exe /ma history.alm MachineAlarms.mal test.csv Be aware to leave the history.alm file together with the other files of the M_Alarms folder of your Runtime, as they are needed during conversion... if you just copy the history.alm, you will get the error you've mentioned. If you still have problem, try to attach to a new post a .zip file with your files, I may test them if you like... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] FT View Alarm banner I am running a FT View 5.0 SE project and I have an alarm banner on most of my screens. When I updated to FT View 5.0 from 4.0, the banner placement is all messed up. I can't have the display settings set to size to runtime and I must set the pixel size manually. I have a Rockwell case on this, I was wondering if the issue has been resolved? [/INST] I see the same issue after 4.0 to 5.0 upgrade. I also have a case open and have no further updates other than this issue only occurs when the display is set to scale. If you can live with the display set to pan, then your ok. I can't use pan because of various resolutions used throughout the client base. When I was at tech ed 08, I tried to duplicate this issue on the test machines and had no success. To my understanding, there were no patch revs, just a multistate indicator patch. I believe that the jan 08 patch rollup might have caused an issue, but I have not been able to test this theory. Do you have any patch rollups installed on your machines? I was running an old version of 4.0 with some old patches and I updated to 5.0 and had the issue. I want to say that I had the problem with no patches installed . In March I downloaded 5.0 and when we went live I had installed the April patches and now I am currently on the June patches. One suggestion was to have a small screen at the bottom that is always on topand leave the area clear or resize all screens to not occupy that area. I have nottried it in AB but it works in Wonderware. yes, you're right -- using a docked display could be a way to solve the resize issue. But I don't understand what you mean when you say it 'messes up', especially if you are setting pixel size manually. Do you mean that your pixel settings don't match the default client size when you don't pick maximize?What's your case number? Messed up means; Lets say you have a alarm summary box on the bottom of the screen. It is 2 tall and runs the full length of the screen. The rest of the screen is buttons and gfx. When you load the page, the area you placed the summery is white and the black summery is half way up the screen, covering your buttons and gfx. If you touch the summery box, the white area of the screen where the box was set in development has a green halo around the 2 area. The strange thing I noticed was, depending on what screen I came from, the position of the summery box would change. I worked with Rockwell for several days on this and the best I got was redraw my screens. I will provide a case # on Sunday, and Yes the Pixel size needed to be set to fit it to our 17 Versaviews. sharonB..........the alarm summary banner has an issue when the screen display is set to scale. The alarm summary and the highlight around the alarm summary are two different items overlayed. With an alarm summary, we cant disable highlight, so we end up with an offset of highlight and banner. The starting pixel location is (0,0). Starting from the top left hand corner, if you move the alarm summ to the bottom right, the highlight is offset from the banner, sometimes (depending on res) by almost 2 inches. Is that the same issue you are seeing kev77? Yes it is. Do you know when we will see an update for this? Just to be clear, are you guys talking about the FTView Alarm & Events Banner or the tradition HMI Alarm summary object? I am using the traditional HMI alarm summary object. The same for me. My alarms are handled in FTView not RSLogix. OK, I haven't recently seen the issue you describe since we've switched to A&E displays. Do you have a case #? This doesn't answer your question immediately, but you could convert to Tag-Based A&E which would allow you to use the A&E banner. Tag-based A&E is where you configure tags to poll for alarming, similar to the traditional HMI alarming, only it uses the A&E server objects. You don't have to use Logix-based alarming to use the new View objects.There is a tool in the KB ID 45583 that will convert HMI alarms and make A&E import files for you. I am not saying you have to convert, just mentioning an alternative. If at all possible, maybe someone could check the alignment of the hmi summary and its highlight and provide a way to correct this anomaly. Its just a suggestion. I see what you're talking about now. I know you can't disable highlights for that object, but can you disable highlights for the screen its on as a workaround? Are you referring to the behavior of interactive objects option? Highlight When Cursor Passes Over It is set by default. Very interesting and a very viable option for a workaround. Issue still being that with different client resolutions, there may still be an issue keeping the alarm banner from moving over other objects and also ALL highlights are disabled for that screen. I will try this an let you know if it helps. Keep in mind that moving to the A&E banner gets the alarms in the processor and I have been told that it can put a strain on a program. I can varify that removing the highlight does not work. What I can't believe is that 5.0 has been out for months and the issue has not been resolved. What am I doing different then the engineers that worked on 5.0 release? I work on a several different systems that were setup by several different companys (all rockwell solution providers) and the banner is used the same way. I want to upgrade another system to 5.0, but I will have the same problem. Yes, I actually set both options in the screen properties -- disabled the Highlight when cursor passes over and also enabled the Disable highlight for selected objects. It worked OK, but as you mentioned, it is assuming the operator will not be tabbing to other stuff (buttons/input fields) on the screen. If the operator IS tabbing through stuff and you need to see the highlight, then if the alarm banner is on a docked display by itself, you could disable the highlight on that display only. However, you are correct in that it still doesn't solve the problem of the summary object itself moving around as it resizes. kev77 wrote: Keep in mind that moving to the A&E banner gets the alarms in the processor and I have been told that it can put a strain on a program. That is not entirely true. If you convert your alarm bits in the controller to ALMA and ALMD instructions, then yes, your alarms are in the processor. But if you convert your HMI alarms to A&E Tag-Based alarms (which are polled), the controller is hit in exactly the same way. The benefit to you is the improved alarm banner, summary, and history objects. They're highly configurable and operator friendly. SharonB wrote: kev77 wrote: Keep in mind that moving to the A&E banner gets the alarms in the processor and I have been told that it can put a strain on a program. But if you convert your HMI alarms to A&E Tag-Based alarms (which are polled), the controller is hit in exactly the same way. The benefit to you is the improved alarm banner, summary, and history objects. They're highly configurable and operator friendly.How do I convert hmi alarms to A&E tag based alarms? It would just be nice to fix it the way it was before the conversion. Also kev77, this issue might not happen with the next upgrade. I also stopped upgrading projects because of this, but my other co-workers have made upgrades without the same issue. Maybe its the settings of the banner when converted. My banner is has white text with a black background. Most I have seen are white backgounds with black text. How about yours? AnswerID 45583 will get you to the information you seek. Mine is red text on a white background. The reason I upgraded is because we want the more advanced motion instructions as well as the Ethernet VFD AIO. According to techs at tech ed, the conversion works good and FT alarms and events banner supports hmi alarm tags without any issues. AnswerID 45583 is the conversion tool. Thanks, I will check it out! I see under the known issues on the release notes, it says that analog tags are not converted yet. Is that Correct? If so, does that mean that the tool will not convert them or you can't use HMI tag alarms in the A&E Banner? I have this same problem from upgrading from 4.0 to 5.0 - I put everything to pan and fixed pixel but it does not help when we have versaviews on the floor and a SCADA computer in the control room with different resoultion then the versaview. So I went through and created a seperate file for the floor versaviews and the controlroom - very fun and time consuming, but I also have found that certain graphics on the screen will not change state when it actually changed state until I go away from that screen and come back. Anyone else seeing this problem? kev77 wrote: I see under the known issues on the release notes, it says that analog tags are not converted yet. Is that Correct?No, this is not correct. Thank you for pointing that out. The readme file has been fixed. DBLD99 wrote: I have this same problem from upgrading from 4.0 to 5.0 - I put everything to pan and fixed pixel but it does not help when we have versaviews on the floor and a SCADA computer in the control room with different resoultion then the versaview. So I went through and created a separate file for the floor versaviews and the controlroom - very fun and time consuming, but I also have found that certain graphics on the screen will not change state when it actually changed state until I go away from that screen and come back. Anyone else seeing this problem? Do I hear an echo, This sounds like a problem I had with a 17 versaview I purchased in January. I installed a versaview in March because the touchpanel on my old one was bad (design problem). When I put it online it would run fine for about 20 minutes and the longer it was online the worse the connection got. It had no problems changing the state of the buttons, the the screen would stop refreshing. No events would be logged, no errors to be found. I had too many hours and case # on this problem. Rockwell seemed to think that it was a bad NIC card. But who knows. Rockwell is going to come out and install a new Versaview soon. Your comment about not changing state sounds like what I saw. Is there a problem with the Versaviews? I run two versaviews and when I pressed a button on the new versaview it would change the bit, and I know this because I went to my other Versaview and saw it on the same screen. I don't think it is a problem with the versaview - but a problem in 5.0 that I did not have in 4.0 - When I upgraded to 5.0 from 4.0 I started to see the graphics not changing state - and even the Start / Stop buttons would not change color and the text inside the button would only be half way showen until you go away from the screen then back. It just sucks that the project in its current form developed in 4.0 will not upgrade to 5.0 without a lot of modifications. I think I was having alarm disconnection error in 4.0 and that promped to move to 5.0. I think that was a DCOM error on 4.0. As far as what you describe on what the buttons were doing, that is the same thing I saw. Do you run a Versaview in your Control Room? I have two Versaviews on the Production floor and a Windows Server 2003 R2 running the displays. How old are your Versaviews? Well one is 2 years old and the other is less then a year - we are updating one machine a year for the next 6 years - So I create the screens in whatever version is out now and go back and will update the other versaviews. I just have 1700p's on the floor and a Windows Pro box for the overall SCADA in the controlroom - So I had too create 2 projects to get the graphics to work right. I just hope next year if 6.0 is out it does not do something stupid when I go and update the other 2 to 6.0 I am running the 6181P 1700 series, one installed in 12/06 and the new in 3/08. What I can't understand is why do some projects have a problem and some don't. The version I am having problems with was created in 4.0 from an OEM toolkit. The versaview line has had some glitches in the past due to memory issues. Also, if you dont have the current patch rev in 5.0, you will see issues with change of state in indicators. I havent seen such an extreme issue as you guys describe with the versaview when using 5.0, but I dont use versaviews for those reasons. I would be interested to know if you had the same issues when running a thin client as opposed to a thick client. This would let you know if its a versaview or 5.0 issue. Hello all. I am Kevins distributor specialist and finally got connected to the new forums (still have not found the public link on ab.com or RSI pages). I wanted to add my own $0.02 to the parts about the A&E functionality. It is my understanding that using A&E with the ALMD and ALMA instructions actually reduces loading on the network since there is no polling when using the combination. However, there are two other considerations to keep in mind:The alarm instructions are somewhat costly in RAM.. they consume about 1k per instance. If you don't use too many of them this should not be a major problemTrue execution times of ALMA and ALMD are relatively long, so if a bunch of them go off all at once, your scan time will bump as a result. Other than those considerations, I am not aware of any other reason to avoid use of A&E instructions and the A&E client... Sharon, please correct me I'm not being accurate here! Just a quick note about the links... There are public forum links on the support pages here: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/support/ The forums link is in the nav bar on the left side. JHutch In your application, to display your main screen and all other (or a part of them) with an alarm banner, you can use two display : main (for example) and the alarm banner. In each on them specify in the display setting the place where they need to come on screen. In the command button, use the display command : display main; display banner. Instead to use a global object and make a copy on each of your screen. Maybe you need to install the patches from RSView SE / Me. You can found in this location: ME : http://files.rockwellautomation.com/UR/ME_4.0_Rollup_01_Jul_08.zip SE : http://files.rockwellautomation.com/UR/SE_4.0_Rollup_01_Jul_08.zip I am up to date on patches and the Alarm Banner problem still exists. I realize that I can do a few different things to correct the problem. Is this what we are to expect from future CPR's? I have 60 active screens and if every time a problem comes up, I need to go and modify all my screen then FT View is not for me. I opened a case on this problem back in late April and last time I checked my case was closed. What does that mean? Maybe my case was an isolated incident, maybe not. As far as the new Alarms and Events Banner, I have over 200 alarms, so I would rather keep the alarms in FTView. I downloaded the conversion program and want to try it but I need some more information on making that jump. Does anyone know if I can do the conversion and still have the old HMI alarms still work? A closed case doesn't mean the issue is being ignored. A closed case just means that the support engineer that was working with you has reached a point where no further communications between you are expected. Chances are, in this case, the issue has been run up the ladder and the product group has entered it in their issue tracking system. Now, if the engineer closed the case when the expectation was that he was going to contact you with more information ... then there is a problem. If that is the case, please contact me privately with the case number and I'll investigate further. JHutch JHutch wrote: A closed case doesn't mean the issue is being ignored. A closed case just means that the support engineer that was working with you has reached a point where no further communications between you are expected. My way of thinking is a closed case is a resolved case. If I open a case with a software issue, I expect some kind of feedback. I brought up the unknown issue in Late April or Early May and I am still guessing weather it has been corrected. How do we know if issues are resolved? Do we need to keep checking the patch rollups to see if our issue is reolved. I will PM the case # to you... Thanks kev77, I just upgraded another 4.0 application to 5.0. There are hmi alarm banners on all the screens (white with red) and not one of them had an issue. I know this doesnt help my other application or your application, but it does mean that we might be waiting a while for a resolution. The strange thing is that when I spoke with tech support the begginning of this year, they were able to duplicate it. There is really no reason that we should be forced to use alarms and events because rockwell can solve this anomaly. I will have some time in the next month to re-visit the application with this issue and hope to find the cause. I will update accourdingly and hope you do to if there is a resolution found. jperando, Was this on a 6181P Versaview? I am going to try and update to the alarms and events just for the simple fact that I can access alarm history easier. I thought that the alarms and events could only be done inside the controllogix. Now that I know that I can convert my HMI alarms, it is a better way to go for me. Thanks to the rockwell staff and cintributors for pointing it out! I can run both the old alarms and new alarms and events side by side until I am comfortable with the new setup. KEV77 You're welcome! Feel free to send me a message to tell me how awesome and fantastic you think the conversion tool is. ;) kev77, I am not having a hardware specific issue, since my application spans multiple devices in the field served from 3 main HMI and Data servers. They all have the same issue no matter what resolution or display type. It was an anomoly in the SE 4.0 to 5.0 distributed upgrade at this peticular site only. I know the new alarms and events dont have the same issue and I will more than likley go with the upgrade as well. Let me know if everything goes smooth......... I updated to the Alarms and Events and used the conversion tool and all the digital tags came across good. I did the conversion when the server was running and didn't even need to reboot. I had a analog memory test tag that was hanging up the conversion tool but I just removed the tag. I am in the process of upgrading another project that has several analog alarms. I will let you know how that goes. It is a much better way of alarming! Your post sounds promising..... I ran into another instance where there is an offset in the alarm summary after the upgrade, so I will be upgrading soon. Let me know if you see any issues with analog tags? Thanks for the feedback. Any one of you Rockwell folks know if the patch is complete yet? Don't know about this particular patch, but this is the listing of all patches for SE v5.0. In my experience, they keep it up to date pretty well. v5.0 SE Patch Table of Contents JHutch kev77 wrote: I had a analog memory test tag that was hanging up the conversion tool but I just removed the tag. I am in the process of upgrading another project that has several analog alarms. I will let you know how that goes.I am interested in any errors you receive re: analog alarms.They can be complicated to migrate. I sent you a message with my email address - if you wouldn't mind sending me the CSV files that make the tool hang up, I'd like to see what your issue was. Thanks! To date, the current patch revision does not correct this issue. I found another cause of this issue in an SE 5.0 client. When the client is configured with the Show Title Bar and show diagnostic list options there is an offset of the Alarm Summ. If the client is configured without those two options and set to maximize screen, there is no offset of the alarm summary and the client will scale accordingly to the screen size of the client The only downfall being that the client cannot be minimized at that point. Sorry to be slightly off topic but i've found that for the new Alarm and Events server, to be able to log the alarms and events, you need to configure an MS SQL database specially for this. For large projects, this would be fine but for a small project for 100 plus alarms, to create a database specially for this would be overkill. Why can't it work like the old method where the alarms are just logged onto the HMI server? mukesh wrote: Sorry to be slightly off topic but i've found that for the new Alarm and Events server, to be able to log the alarms and events, you need to configure an MS SQL database specially for this. For large projects, this would be fine but for a small project for 100 plus alarms, to create a database specially for this would be overkill. Why can't it work like the old method where the alarms are just logged onto the HMI server? Because the alarm log viewer does database queries and databases are a lot easier to work with than flat files. SQL Express is free and provided with the View installation CDs. It takes all of 5 minutes to set up the database in an application. it's really not as overkill as you think it is. :) SharonB, nice job with the conversion tool. It converted 7046 digital tags without any issues that I seen. It was easy to use and overall, very nice. Now the bad part -- After the excitement of the conversion wore off I was left with the ability to have a slightly updated version of the ME alarm structure in an SE app. The time I spent converting and setting up the Alarms and events was all wasted time for what I needed. Maybe I am way off base, but the new setup seems to of been implemented without the thought of people accually navigating in the alarms on a regular basis. The one thing I can't stand about ME alarm structure is that the description and the tags are linked by a reference # and located in 2 different sections. This might be great for the stability and structure that the software uses, but not for development and navigation by people. Also it might be ok for 100 alarms, but it is ridiculous for thousands. Correct me if im wrong, and I hope I am, but with the upgrade to alarms and events, I loose the ability to have individual colors for 9 separate severities and its replaced by 3 colors for low, medium and high based on the alarm that is closest to that level in severity. I loose any folder type structure for my alarms and they are just all lumped into one large list. If and when the need comes to have to change an alarm description, I need to wait for the alarms and events to load all 7046 tags and then load all 7046 descriptions ?(WHY)? And then scroll through all the tags to find the name listed like folder/folder/folder/tag and then check to see that its reference # 4756, now I go to the message section and find message reference # 4756 and edit the description. Great, that saves no time all and makes the alarming structure cryptic to new users. The summary display is nice, but the lack of functionality, structure, and the inability to easily navigate the alarms for development, makes this a very bad alternative to the original HMI alarming. The fact that there needs to be another piece (free SQL) installed to be able to log any alarms just adds to the pain. Then to put salt in an already gapping wound, tech support reassured me that the offset of the original HMI alarm summary after upgrading to 5.0 is not a priority right now and there is no ETA on a fix. You would think that since every 5.0 client does the exact same thing, it would be some type of priority. Just so everyone doesn't jump on the beatup the tech having a bad day bandwagon; I think the ability to assign tags to the message is great, Im not setting up 7000 string tags. I think the search option is wonderful, I can't remember the tag structure for 7000 tags for years to come. I like the options available, just not the structure and for me and this specific application, it wont work at all. On the bright side, the alarm display doesn't offset causing the inability to see graphics and select buttons. Just to be clear, Rockwell caused this issue with rewrite of the 5.0 client. There is no issue with a 4.0 client, but after seeing the 5.0 upgrade, there is an improvement in speed and stability and I wouldn't rev back for anything. So im at the mercy of those who have fixed an incredible amount of issues that resided in the 4.0 release and created some new ones with 5.0 release. Whooh....Im glad we have the forums back. JHUTCH -- Close this post, there is no fix on the way anytime soon, but im sure you are already aware of that. Maybe open a new post when there is a fix. Kev77, maybe you have heard differently........ SharonB wrote: Because the alarm log viewer does database queries and databases are a lot easier to work with than flat files. SQL Express is free and provided with the View installation CDs. It takes all of 5 minutes to set up the database in an application. it's really not as overkill as you think it is. :) Yeah i found the installation files but wasn't sure about licsensing of the product. But you said its free. My other concern was the reduction of processing power and memory remaining after installing SQL express onto one of the FT machines. So, wouldn't this require a dedicated machine to handle the SQL database? If not where would be the best machine to install SQL onto? (Ie, FTDir, HMI server or even Domain controller?) I was told over a month ago that there is a fix in the works by Rockwell Quality. I left a message for her yesterday. We'll see... I have a project that is scheduled to go live next month and I must have all projects at 5.0 to be run off my new redundant server setup. I have (2) 5.0 projects and (1) 4.0 project. I guess I can try and update to 5.0 and see how it goes... just so you know kev77, factory talk alarm and events are not compatable with redundancy. Sorry I forgot to point that out before. All of my systems are redundant, so it put me in a bad spot. jperando, thanks for the feedback on the conversion tool. I'm glad it worked for you. Now to address some of the other stuff you mentioned -- losing the folder organization aspect of alarms and message ID assignments. I agree with you in that the usability could be improved. The saving feature, from a developer's point of view, is that the alarm definitions are separate from the project itself and can be exported/imported as needed, and editted using Excel. In that sense, it's not any different than importing/exporting the tag database to modify HMI alarms. I guess I am willing to make that tradeoff until it's improved. As a user of both systems, I much much prefer the new A&E summary/banner. I also believe that requiring SQL to log history is a step up. Not only is the history object a million times better than what we used to have, since the data is in SQL, you can write custom queries for basic reporting functionality. Additionally, with 1000 alarm severies and user-defined classes, you can configure sequence of event data a lot more easily by automatically filtering out what the operator really cares about. he doesn't need to see 100 alarms when what he really needs to know is that his drive failed. And last but not least, redundancy! This will be in the next major release of View SE. Re: the alarm summary offset problem, have you guys seen technote 52404, there is a suggestion uncheck size to main window at runtime: Problem Summary: In a display client when the cursor is moved over an Alarm Summary object, the Highlight box is displayed as detached from the Alarm Summary. This behaviour is only visible when the Display Settings Property Size to main window at runtime is selected.This issue is evident only with the Alarm Summary object.Applicable: FTView SE v5.00 CPR9 onlyWork Around: Unchecking the 'Size to main window at runtime' checkbox in the graphic's DisplaySettings will circumvent this issue I didn't see this mentioned yet in this discussion, so apologies if I just missed it.Thought I'd mention it just in case. SharonB, Thanks for the reply. I can't get into the message to send you the excel file because our spam filter is too tight. As for un-checking the size to main window at runtime, what will this cause if I have it running on several different clients with different screen sizes? jperando, thanks for the information on the limitations, this saves me a lot of time. When you uncheck the option to size to main window, it will then display in what ever size window it first opens in. So if your lucky, it will be a small window and the alarm summary will not even appear because it will be completely off of the screen. The highlight will stay right where its suppose to. The issue seems simple, the highlight will scale with the screen size, the graphic within it does not. Apply the same scaling to the graphic that is applied to the highlight and its fixed. SharonB, its nice to see that you take pride in what you help develop, but at this point the alarms and events is not a viable solution to the alarm summary offset issue. I will in the future look forward to using the alarms and events features, but for current applications I have developed around using the HMI alarm summary and alarm log viewer. The tech note to uncheck size to main window is not a solution, or even a workaround. The next technote that is pointed out in this posting should be the fix for this issue and whoever posts it should at least try it first. jperando quote: JHUTCH -- Close this post, there is no fix on the way anytime soon, but im sure you are already aware of that. Maybe open a new post when there is a fix. Kev77, maybe you have heard differently........ While I agree this post has rambled all over the place and has gotten so long it is hard to follow, there is a lot of good information and too much on-going discussion to close it off or even to cleanly split into other threads. If you want to split off part of the discussion, by all means feel free to create a new thread and even post a link from here to the new one (I can help with that if you are unsure how). JHutch JHUTCH, I completely understand.It would be nice to see information towards correcting the original issue as opposed to work arounds that don't fully satisfy the needs of users that experience this problem. There has been no post that updates any response to this issue or any type of acknowledgement that its even being looked at. If this information existed somewhere in this post then it would be beneficial for those who are experiencing this problem. The post is a great resource, just not for why it was opened. We'll I got a response from Rockwell QA... The fix will be issued with the product release sometime this fall. I heard that it is like a service pack for FTView. As of this moment, no patch will be released in the rollups. Thanks for the update, kev77 Just to be clear, does this address the question reiterated here: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=FTStudio&thread.id=247 JHutch QUOTE:Just to be clear, does this address the question reiterated here:http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=FTStudio&thread.id=247 JHutch No, a time frame and an acual fix for an issue are two completely different things. Well, to be fair, you said progress and a time frame for a fix *can* be considered progress ... :smileywink: But I understand what you mean. If I hear anything more specific from the SE product group, I'll let you know. JHutch Quote kev77 Check out ID 54884, the patch has been released fir the display problem. I will try it next Thursday! I stand corrected..............there is a fix available. Thanks kev77 Something strange... I have not installed the patch yet (will do so Thursday) and I have been using the new Alarms and events banner and I have been missing alarms. It would only show me the 3rd active alarm. The first 2 would not show but it would show the correct numbers of active alarms. So I did a little test, Screen properties; Set to specific size 1280X975 Size to main window at runtime- checked The problem seems to be in the Allow display to be resized box. It doesn't matter if I have that box checked, if it is set to Scale it will not show the alarms. As soon as I set it to pan, the alarms can be seen. I think it is similar to the offset problem we have seen in the past with the old alarm summary. It looks like it is not only scaling the display, but it is scaling inside the alarms and events banner. The reason I think this is because when I have 2 alarms I can see the very bottom of the second alarm text. I hope the patch corrects that problem as well! Does this make sense? Kev77 \n </s>

<s>[INST] factoryntaklk se hii already done that striks but it will not work if add two pens.can you please check that one. another one i carete a passwird for trnds screen aftre doing that one tag datamodel which i created after word it doesnot giving me the historial vlaue in trends. so any problem with passwrod setting. rahul [/INST] Rahul, you may define how your Y axis has to work... use the Scale Option, or use Isolated graphing... refer to online HELP in the trend to have them explained... edit:Also you may use NEXT PEN button to switch between pens at runtime... You're talking about View SE.... :smileytongue: (just seen) Open the Library Object named Trend...there are many buttons that uses VBA code to change the settings of the Trend... (also to select which pen to show...) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic can you please tell me the another question i had asked ?about histrocal value.......and thanks for all these information. I've reproduced your situation: a trend in a protected display, containing a pen added from Datalog...I can't see particular issues... :smileysurprised:When I login an authorized user, trend shows data from log file and also actual values... Are you sure you've started your Datalog model issuing a DatalogOn command ?What do you see in your trend ? Just realtime data? fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] RS Logix 500 Starter 7.30 reports micrologix 1100 as series A processor when it is a series B Will Logix 500 Starter reporting a series 'B' 1100 as a series 'A' processor cause any issues? I create a file for a series B, locate a series B, but Logix changes the processor type to series A. [/INST] Where do you find it changed ? Try to check the Staus file (online) as indicated in the following screenshot... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Comunication between Panel View Component with Omron CPM2A Please, someone know if its posible conect a Panel View Component using a Host Link protrocol to a CPM2A using Open option in device menu but I can´t found any option or information to comunicate with this device. Thank you for your time. [/INST] Did you already take a look to the Host Link driver help ? Open Addressing is explained there, manual indicates it should be used with newer Omron Controllers. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Versa View Problem My Versaview HMI monitor has gone blank.If the HMI is rebooted, the monitor comes on briefly displays OS startup progress but goes blank shortly after therefore making it almost impossible to do troubleshooting.If the power supply is removed from the HMI for some time (eg. 1 day )the system will reboot, start the application and display process information however the problem will occur after approx 5mins after startup. Subsequent reboots of the HMI will see the HMI monitor going blank during OS startup. This is the Integrated Display Computer (Touchcreen) Catalog [/INST] Connect an external monitor to verify if there is a problem with the video card. If the external monitor shows video, then the problem is with the VersaView monitor. If the external monitor does not show video, then the problem is with the video card.Either way, the unit will need to be sent in for repair with an explanation as to whether the problem appears to be with the video card or with the monitor. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic When the display boots up, does it display the touch test results or is it configure to NOT run full diagnostics when booting? It can be configured to run full diagnostics when booting and I have seen a bad touchscreen cause intermittant problems or display problems when booting. \n </s>

<s>[INST] FTView SE getting Parameter files into Combobox with VBA Hello, I have screen with a MS Forms 2.0 ComboboxI want to list all the Parameter Files in this combobox and everytime I choosea file from that list, the screen should be updated with that parameter file. Or do I better work with a txt file with all names I need, and display those names in the combobox,so if you select a name, he will replace the [/INST] Jamy, let me ask a clarification... which is the reason of why don't you use a Display List Selector to do this ? :smileysurprised: Thanks...- fuzzy logic Well, because I need 200 selections and also it's not preferable for the customer, because if they add a new RTU in the field, they have to modify too many things in order to get it on the screen. :smileyhappy: Hi Jamy, How about something like this: ==================== Sub Button1_Released() Dim ParmeterFiles, ProjPath 'Set that long project path in a variable for convenient handling later.. ProjPath = C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents _ & RSView Enterprise\SE\HMI Projects\MyProject\PAR\*.PAR ParameterFiles = Dir(ProjPath) Do While ParameterFiles <> ComboBox1.AddItem Left(ParameterFiles, Len(ParameterFiles) -4) ParameterFiles = Dir Loop End Sub ==================== This will put the parameter files in a ComboBox - once they are there, it is up to you to do what you like with them. Hope that helps. P.S. To clear the ComboBox, you can issue a ComboBox1.Clear command. Ok, this will do the trick.Thx \n </s>

<s>[INST] Calculate power supply for Flex I/O system I am confusing about calculate power supply for Flex I/O system Our system is including : 1794-ASB (1 pc) 1794-IB32 (1pc) 1794-OB32P (2pc) 1794-IE8 (1pc) 1794-OE4 (1pc)Can you help us to advise how calculate for above system ? Power supply 1794-PS3 or 1794-PS13 ? [/INST] Hi RiverVN, there is a technote with all the instructions... Aid 19435 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Alarms and Events Remote Acknowledge. Hello We've recently started to look at the new Alarms and Events system included in CPR9 as we're considering migrating existing CPR7 / CPR9 system with hmi-tag alarms, or might consider it for upcomming projects, and have a question regarding the Tag-based Alarms. In the alarm definition there is a tag that you can set to display acknowledge status, but it seems that that tag isn't monitored for changes. What we're looking for is a tag that tells the Alarm server that the alarm has been acknowledged (like the remote ack field in the FTView ME alarm system), so we can put the full alarm logic in the PLCs without using the new alarm functions. Is there any such functions that we may have overlooked, or does anyone have any ideas on how to replicate the functionality in other ways? Best regards Andreas [/INST] Hi Andreas, you may accomplish this exposing the Alarms&Events Summary to VBA and using some code. To be able to *catch* the remote acknowledge request, you may use the code as explained in Aid 22007; add a Numeric Display object in a page that is always running (you may alse set this object as invisible), so that the code will check the value of the associated tag and when changes to a value you want, executes the command. A list of the ACK *commands* is inside Aid 48785 An example of command could be: ExecuteCommand invoke MyAlmDisplay.AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected() ...where MyAlmDisplay is the Display where the Summary is. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Hmm, so to enable separate alarm triggering for each alarm I would need to create a script for each ack tag. When approaching a few hundred different ack tags I'm afraid it would be abit hard to still get a good grasp of the system (that's something I liked about the RSView hmi-alarms, by structuring my tag folders I would have a very good control over what alarms existed, and when adding new ones, or deleteing old, everything was in one place so it's easy to keep track of).It's a great idea for applications with a common ack bit for many alarms though, atleast aslong as one can expect that there's a client up and running the display (which we can't really in a distributed enviroment, but on standalone systems I guess one could expect it).I guess we'll keep using the old HMI-tag alarms for atleast another version of the software.Thanks for your answer. BTW, if you're in vba to start with, why not call the MyAlmDisplay.AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected() in vba instead of going out to the View enviroment and calling methods from there, is there a performance gain from using Invoke() even though we started in the vba enviroment? Best RegardsAndreas Hmmm... my low ability in using VBA is shown... :smileytongue: I was in trouble issuing that VBA command as the Numeric Display object is on a different display than the one where the AlarmEventSummary1 is... So I've used that workaround... :smileysurprised: but I'm ready to learn something if you want... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic For manipulating displays through vba use the Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(Index) syntax to get the object.Lets say you have an open display called a, with a text object called text1 exposed to vba. To add test to the end of the caption from another display you'd use the following: Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(a).Text1.Caption = Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(a).Text1.Caption & test Keep in mind that the display a must be opened for this to work. So in short you change the usual me. part of the code in vba for Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(DisplayName).So the example above would be something like Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(MyAlmDisplay).AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected() Allthough if you allready have a hidden always-up display as in this case, I don't think it would hurt to put an Alarm Summary on it too, so you have everything for the remote acknowledge on the same display (much easier to troubleshoot when one doesn't have to jump around between different displays to follow the logic :) ). Remember to expose everything that needs to be used by vba, usually when I've got a script that doesn't work I've forgotten to exposed one of the objects that is used to run it. Best RegardsAndreas Nice ! It works, just I was needed to remove the brackets at the end,otherwise I got a Compiler Error; here the result. Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(MyAlmDisplay).AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected This is the why I like so much this Forum ! Thanks for your VBA lesson :smileyhappy: , I owe you one ! - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] RSView32 Active Display System Hi frnds, can anyone help me out to install RAD system to windows 2003 server.which steps has to be followed, so as to install the aforesaid software? [/INST] Did you already follow the Getting Results Guide ? - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] connecting C600 to Siemens PLC S7-300 my company just recently purchased a panelview componenet (C600) HMI to replace the Siemens TP170 HMI for our Siemens PLC S7300. My problem is how to connect it with Siemens PLC S&300 since the previous HMI is using the profibus cable and I find no compatible connections in the C600 HMI. Anybody could help please.......Thanks [/INST] You may use the PVc driver Siemens S7 MPI... see HERE a list of all the PVc drivers.As the drivers inside the PVc are the same as PanelviewPlus, except for the fact that they are already embedded in the products, you may have a look to the Kepserver Enterprise Driver Help (available here ), to better understand the use and the available data types. You will also need some hardware to connect your PLC to the serial port of your C600... The hardware can be purchased from Siemens. The part numbers are: Siemens Part: 6ES7 - 972 - OCA23 - OXAO Version 5.1 or Siemens Part: 6ES7 - 972 - OCA22 - OXAO Version 5.0 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] PowerFlex 4(x) Series Remote HIM I'm trying to pick a drive and I want a remote HIM, a process controller sending a 0-10VDC speed reference and an AUTO-MANUAL selctor switch.(Too bad there's no auto-tuning on the PF4 series drives or I would use the internal PID - but that's another story...)The remote HIM need to be the NEMA 4X 22-HIM-C2S. With the selector switch in AUTO, the drive should respond to the speed reference from the process controller.WIth the selector switch In MANUAL the operator uses the remote HIM to set the speed.The remote HIM is always the start and stop source. What powerflex series drive, if any, allows me to do this?Is the remote HIM equivalent to the integral HIM if the drive is in LOCAL mode? MANUAL mode?Or is the remote HIM considered COMMUNICATIONS when setting up the drives digital input functions? Please don't tell me I need to use a PF7x series. My customer isn't getting any TARP funds.Thanks [/INST] In the user manual, page 3-14, you can set up the digital input to be local control for the HIM; parameter A051 set to 5. For AUTO on digital input #2, set parameter A052 to 13 for 0-10V control. Hope this points you in the right direction. <snip> In the user manual, page 3-14, you can set up the digital input to be local control for the HIM;..... Original Post: Is the remote HIM equivalent to the integral HIM if the drive is in LOCAL mode? I've read the manual, searched this forum and the TSKB - otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question.I should have known better... Well first of all we're all here just trying to help based on our own understanding and personal experiances. Sorry the forum didn't live up to your expectations. All the documentation I have and experience allows for the remote HIM to be a replacement for the integral HIM. The HIM itself has it's own parameters and can be set up as a Master or Slave depending on other comms peripherals you may have. Although the remote HIM may have direct speed control, when placed in local it defaults to the integral HIM since you can have both. When we have questions needing answers not found anywhere else, this is when our vendor comes through. We go over, set it up on a test bench and find out. Not really to start troubles with somebody, just let me add a comment.... :smileywink: First phrase that we should write after receiving a reply to our request, should be something like Thank you for your answer.... I'm agree with fordtt, all the folks here are spending some of their time to try to help others, and this needs to be recognized... then, if the answer is different than expected, not in line with our request, not clear enough, well, we may better specify it and post again. This is a Forum, it may help, sure, but it shouldn't be confused with a Technical Support from the vendor; we have also to consider it is worlwide available, so sometimes the language could be misunderstood and replies not so clear (not really this case, but it may happen) Just my two cents, keep asking questions, we all will keep answering as best as we can ! - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] 1756-HSC Continuous counting... I am using an encoder on a process line and would like to accumulate length of material. I have an encoder wired to a 1756-HSC and am using it to measure cut lengths.I have an application program that runs in a periodic task of 10 ms. The PresentValue[0] is the input to a pulse multiplier:Mode = 1 RelativeWordsize = 32multiplier = 1000000 Output goes to InPlus on an UpDnCounter block. It works fine and is calibrated accurately except when the presentvalue[0] rolls over. When the rollover occurs I get a negative number on Pmul.Out and subtracts from the updown counter. How can I work around this? Thanks for the Help! dgross@nacsi.com [/INST] Answer to your issue is in this statement, taken from PMUL online help: When applying this block, it is important to note that the feedback data should not change by more than ½ the word size from one scan to the next, if rotational direction is to be properly differentiated. In the example above, if the feedback device is moving in a clockwise direction such that at scan ‘A’ it reads 0 and then scan ‘B’ it reads –2000, actual change in position is equivalent to +2096 counts in the clockwise direction. However, since these two values are more than ½ the words size, (or more than ½ the rotation of the physical device,) the PMUL instruction calculates that the feedback device rotated in the opposite direction and returns a value of –2000 instead of +2096. So, which is the count range of your HSC ?You have to change the WordSize in PMUL to remain in the right range, following the examples below. Here some examples: count range 65535 to -65536 ---- set WordSize = 17 bitcount range 2047 to -2048 ---- set WordSize = 12 bitcount range 255 to -256 ---- set WordSize = 9 bit Informations are in Logix5000 Process Control & Drives Instructions Reference Manual pages 261-262 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks -- I saw that in the online help. I am using the presentvalue of the 1756-HSC default of 16,7nn,nnn. That tag counts up to ~16,7nn,nnn then resets to 0. What word size would I use in this case? -- or is that even possible? My issue is: when presentvalue transitions to 0 -- PMUl.OUT = - 16,7nn,nnn -- and my UpDown counter goes negative... Thanks again! dgross92657 Based on the examples of my previous post, the WordSize should be 25 bit. Let me know if works... ...and if you like, click the kudos button over my posts that help...it will be really appreciated. :smileytongue: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] parameter concept in RSVIEW Mechine Edition I had done the screens & passed the tag using parameter file. it's working nice thorugh GOTO button. but i want to call the parameter file (tags) automatically depends the corresponding screens. And also i have done this in RSVIEW32. is it possible in RSVIEW ME too. [/INST] Unfortunately, it isn't possible to change to a parameter file dinamically in ViewME. :smileysad: Have a look to this technote to better understand how parameters work: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=36816 - fuzzy logic Hi, some feedback here.... ?! Maybe the answer doesn't solve the issue, but anyway it gives the explanation of the why it isn't possible to solve it... :smileytongue: In case should be nice you mark this as solved, using Solution? green button over my previous post... Again, iti is the correct way to leave some useful informations in the forum also for other users.... Many thanks for your cooperation... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Switching Activation Stye I just finished downloading the newest release of Rslogix 5000 and I was asked to Move my product over to the new FactoryTalk Activation. How can I move my all the software I have to FactoryTalk Activation? [/INST] Call into support and make the request. If you are the librarian for a large site it might be a good time to make a consolidation request. What department should I be trying to get ahold of my site isn't the largest but we are paying for support and want to keep upto date..My issue is having all these serial numbers to deal with. Any ideas what I can do for future use of my products? Call the activation's group. They should look up what serial numbers are registered to you. Also anything that directly transfers over they can processes the request for most things. A few they can direct you accordingly. For quick direct dial access to the various groups, see here: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/support/directdial/ Specifically for Activations, direct dial is 010 JHutch So I called in to the Tech support number and got into the activations to migrate my site location of approximately 50 different serial numbers of 10 different packages. I was told that I needed to get in touch with Contract Services as the Activations department handles a smaller amount of license limitated to 10 or less. At that point I was transferred to the Contract services department and was provided a site listing and consolidation suggestion. The correct Way would be to contact your local distributor to discuss possible Changes. IE moving to Concurrent Activations so the licenses can be distributed across the network. Breaking down the multiple serial numbers to a single serial number for each package. which was a great way for our site to manage our licenses. \n </s>

<s>[INST] control logix5000 addressing technique The command format of control logix5000 includes service codes,tags, IOI string and size. Thers is no physical address and name for the data items. I am facing problem in addressing of the commands. Can it be mapped through PCCC encapsulation? for ex: for a tag named 6th element of an array of REALs named setpoints whose IOI string will be 07 91 09 73 65 74 70 6f 69 7e 74 7300 28 05,how the addressing can be done for this tag. Plz help me out! [/INST] I'm afraid I don't completely understand the question, but it looks like you might be trying to address memory in the controllogix directly. This is not a good idea. The controller dynamically changes memory around during certain operations like downloading, online edits, etc. So the address that you have linked to today might not be the same tomorrow. RSLinx Single Node is a cost effective way to access all of the data inside the CLX processor. It opens an OPC connection to the controller and would allow any opc client access to the data. The communications are CIP over network. The PCCC Application Layer over DF1 I know can work with a PLC5, SLC or Micro, but those where not on the CIP Standard and I am pretty certain PCCC does not work over with a Logix controller. Everything is CIP there. With that being said, I am not certain how to resolve your answer other then suggest looking at the OVDA standard: www.odva.org \n </s>

<s>[INST] Windows XP Service Pack 3 Can anybody tell what kind of issues to expect when using Windows XPService Pack 3, and Rockwell Products RSLogix 5 7.30.10.2 & RSLinx 2.54 All I can find on the tech pages is it is not supported but it does not say anything about what problems can be expected. Any info would be appreciated.. [/INST] Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! *** Seriously, I couldn't find much in the way of specific known defects. It hasn't been extensively tested, but Technical Support reports that SP3 causes things to blow up and the only fix is to revert back to SP2 (and this is on a LOT of products, not just RSLogix 5) JHutch PS Free virtual cookie to the first one to name the movie quote above! :) Ghost Busters....:smileytongue: I'm waiting for the cookie.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic I have experienced a problem with service pack 3, I tried to establish communication with a plc-5/15 using a 1784-pmck card, I went to device manager and the device wasn't recognized. I spoke with tech connect and they suggested I use service pack 2 and that worked fine. Here you go! Now I'm jealous :smileyindifferent: Ha Ha :smileyvery-happy: Many thanks for the cookie ! Very nice ! Jamy, if you want I may keep half cookie for you.... :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Yeah, gimme a half cookie! :smileyvery-happy:That would be nice of you, fuzzy logic :smileyhappy: \n </s>

<s>[INST] E2h1 FRMW ERR Rset MOD We have an L55/A redundant PLC at firmware revision 13.70, the 1757-SRM is at firmware revision 3.37. Last week we got two times fault alarm E2h1 FRMW ERR Rset MOD on the SRM module, and it can be clear when the power is recycled. Can any body tell me what the problem is and what further action should we take? Thanks,Eric [/INST] As you may have guessed, it is a Firmware Error in the -SRM module.It is indicated in the Installation Manual, and the suggested action there is to re-flash the module firmware. My suggestion here is to call in Tech Support for your region, after collecting informations from your configuration of the redundancy system, eventual recent modifications to the program, firmware level for all modules etc. - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] RN3 communicating with SLC 5/03 Somebody know why the 2711P-RN3 RS485 communication protocol do not work with SLC503 Changed title to reflect content - JHutch [/INST] Should work... try to follow the settings explaned here: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=39290 \n </s>

<s>[INST] The RAD Server on already has the maximum licensed number of clients I'm a pc tech at a power plant that uses rsview32. I accidentally disconnected the pc using rsview32 from the network while making changes to the LAN and now I'm getting the following error message: The RAD server on (Computername) already has the maximum licensed number or RAD clients connected. I looked at Rockwell's support knowledgebase and found answer ID 39447 which told me to end all RADSRV32.exe processes on the ADS server. Unfortunately this did not solve the problem. Can anybody recommend another solution? [/INST] Try the procedure in Aid 51529 (also Aid 55028). The floating client activation has not been released to the server due to abnormaly close of the client... Let me know.... - fuzzy logic I tried AID 51329 but was unable to find the FactoryTalk activation server anywhere. AID 55028 tells me to end the Radsvr32.exe process. I terminated the process on the server but still have the same problem. I'm running out of ideas here. JGarcia, did you try the following? From the RSView32 environment, open the command line and run Displayservermonitor.This will open a dialog box that will show what connections are currently being hosted by the server and will allow you to terminate the connection by highlighting it and clicking File --> Close Client. - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] The difference between 1746-HSCE2 Class 1 and Class 4 in I/O configuration of RSLogix500 In I/O configuration of RSLogix 500, I found that:-1746-HSCE2 High Speed Counter Class 1-1746-HSCE2 High Speed Counter Class 4Please help to advise the difference. I want to configure for 1746-HSCE2, which configuration I should choose, Class 1 or Class 4 ? [/INST] RiverVN, take a look to the attached screenshot; it has been taken from HSCE2 User Manual. Basically, Class 1 has to be used when you have old SLC processors (or in a remote RIO chassis), and it has been made to be compatible with them. If you have a newer processor, it is better to use Class 4 to get full functionality. There are many examples and quick start documents in Knowledgebase, use hsce2 class as keyword. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] vIEW STUDIO Is there an easy way to export all screens as jpegs or any format for that matter so that they can be imported into another application for making instruction manuals. At this moment I am copying each screen to the clipboard with printscreen and then using mspaint to trim off what is not needed and saving the file as a jpeg. [/INST] Yep, that's the way to do it. It also works if you want to get actual runtime versions of the screens, by taking a printscreen while test running the app. JHutch another way is exporting the displays to XML files. hope this could meet your need. Hi, Try to use a screenshot freeware like Gadwin printscreen you can set it to save automatically jpg file in a specified directory each time you press the PrintScreen key. In addition, .png file instead of .jpg save some space with a good quality. Thierry \n </s>

<s>[INST] Anolog Output card on RIO Hi all, I want to communicate one analog output card with 4 channels which is located in a remote rack communicating with SLC 5/04. I need some information on the card configuration and how to send data to the analog out put card. Do we need to write a configuration word for that card to enable the channels ? Thanks. [/INST] RK, I'm guessing that you're output card is a 1746-NO4I or NO4V, right? Neither card has a configuration word. There are only the 4 output words. The output ranges are the same whether local or remote I/O. That being said, you'll probably want to block transfer the data out to the output card. There are application examples in Chapter 8 of the 1747-ASB user manual that should prove helpful. Sorry, but I don't have the link for the online manual. Ron Here's the link http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1747-um006_-en-p.pdf Also check to this link, appendix D if you have older processor, that doesn't support BT instructions http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1747-um013_-en-p.pdf This is the link for the Analog Card user manual http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1746-um005_-en-p.pdf :smileywink: \n </s>

<s>[INST] power cable high flex for the MPL-B880D-MJ22AA I have found the standard flex power cable for the MPL-B880D-MJ22AA servo motor. What is the part number to order high flex instaed of non-flex power cable? Standard power cable part number 2090-XXNPMP8S03. THANK-YOU [/INST] The part number you need is : 2090-XXTPMP-8S03 You may find this information on the Motion Selection Guide, page 396. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] can i import a rsp file to rs500? i have a older machine that has a plc5 in iti have a slc50/4 that i would like to use.any help will be appreciated [/INST] There isn't a tool to do an automate conversion....:smileysad: You may follow what is indicated in Aid 24055 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Adding an Endress Hauser Fieldgate & instruments into Logix. I am evaluating the E&H Fieldgate wireless HART system and I am unsure how the Fieldgate gets into Logix. Do I have to get an add-in for Logix to be able to add the Fieldgate to the configuration in the Logix system tree? If so, where would I find the file to add? Thanks.Steve [/INST] There are various HART protocol cards.. depends what processor platform you are using http://search.rockwellautomation.com/search?site=main_all&client=main_fe&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=main_fe&q=hart will yield numerous product for interface. You should be able to download the EDS file from E-H to be able to access the Fieldgate gateway. All wireless transmitters will go through the gateway to get on ethernet. You may have to add the gateway as a generic ethernet/ip module and configure it from any info from e-h. Endress is a Rockwell partner so there should be something existing to make this happen. Steve, Here's what I have as the official word as of today (I would guess dates are estimated, subject to change, etc.): The First release of E+H Wireless gateway planned for Jan 2010 will not be integrated into Logix. This release is for data acquisition only - no control.An EtherNet/IP version of the gateway is planned for later in 2010 (maybe even early 2011). The EIP version will include a Logix Add-On Profile for integration.The first release of the gateway will be demonstrated in the Process Booth at Automation Fair. So I guess you'll want to see what's at Automation Fair (R). Dale, W8ABZ Try Phoenix Contact which has wireless I/O for analog and digital. They have some freeware at http://www.phoenixcontact.com/eip to help configure the wired and wireless stuff. Emerson also has some wireless HART but it's mainly for easy integration into their AMS software or DeltaV. Most of the wireless HART we're seeing isn't fast enough for control anyway...update time >4 sec. and actual distances are shorter than advertised. The Phoenix stuff is quite impressive and works well. If you find an alternative, post it back and let us know. Would be interesting to find out. Ok...here's another one to try http://www.automation.com/content/wireless-hart-multidrop-communication-gateways from Prosoft. We're familiar with Prosoft and they have a wireless hart gateway that might prove helpful. Thanks for the reply. Our Endress rep brought in an Endress factory guy to show us the wireless HART gateway and adapters. We are in urgent need of a system that does what they claim theirs will do. They said that the equipment is in production and it is installed in some areas with good results. I requested to go to the Automation Fair to see the demo that Endress will be doing but my high speed management team doesn't think that spending $900 for me to go is worthwhile. I am working on a project that will be over $200,000and they are perfectly willing to buy the stuff sight unseen and rely on the vendor's pitch. But I'm just the guy that will be integrating the system into our control system, what do I know? I will probably foot the bill myself and go to the fair on my own dime and time. Some of my questions were above the factory guy so I'm trying to get all the info I can. Thanks. Steve I definitely wouldn't foot the bill myself but insist on a more technical presentation from the rep. ..SURELY he has contacts. Nothing like being on the bleeding edge of technology. Let us know what you find out. \n </s>

<s>[INST] details market range of copper and usd/jpy. [/INST] This looks to be a spam message. If this one is a real question, appropriate to this forum, please expand it out. If I don't see any activity on this, I'll remove the thread in a few days. JHutch \n </s>

<s>[INST] Need 1068... serial number for Emulate 5 I am trying to install RSLogix Emulate 5 from the Revs 10 DVD 2. I get a screen that asks for User Name, Organization and 10 digit serial number starting with 1068... If I have the Educational Toolkit and Emulate 5 is supposed to be supported, why do I need a serial number? and if I do where can I find it? My Toolkit serial number starts with 2329... [/INST] The Organization / User Name / Serial Number check during installation is solely to populate the Help -> About screen and perform a casual check on the software serial number by verifying that the first four digits you enter are valid for the product serial number. The next six digits are not examined; they can be 123456 or 000000 or anything else. Try 1068000001 and see if the software will install with that. \n </s>

<s>[INST] FT View SE seems to be crashing my laptop For several days now I have started having issues with my laptop. The first time I noticed something was when I got a message saying I had lost connection to the processor. (I was connected to a SLC 5/05) That seemed odd but not a big deal until I tried to reconnect and discovered I basically had no network services. When I tried to reconnect I got a message saying the task could not be completed because of insufficient system resources. This same thing has happened for the last 3 or 4 days after I have been running FTView SE Studio for several hours. Yesterday afternoon I did a test by not running FTView and the problem did not occur. My laptop has 4 GB of ram, 2.5GHz dual-core processor, XP Pro with SP2, 160GB hard drive with 100GB of free space. Any ideas or advice? [/INST] You may want to monitor the system resources as indicated in Aid 31196, to try to better understand where the problem could be... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Thanks. I had seen that technote a couple of days ago and thought it was just referring to the performance monitor in the task manager. I have set up a monitor log for FT. Will see what happens. Hopefully this will help. I have seen similar things with FT Studio. It seems to be tied to testing graphics online. It is almost like that after you go back to editing the tag database is still being updated. Eventually when you test enough graphics you get this error. I have gone many hours just drawing graphics without a problem. When I connected to the PLC and started test them in Studio I never lasted more than a couple hours without things locking up. I quit doing testing in Studio and now only test in the Client. It seems to work better. This is all lot of guessing and since it takes hours to reproduce, I have not tested it extensively. I might be doing something for one reason but am really dealing with a totally different problem and just stumble on a way around it. \n </s>

<s>[INST] Kinetix 6000 - How to add a custom motor? I have to set up a system in wich I need to add 2 pacific scientific servo motors to a Kinetix 6000 servo drives. I can't see the option in the RSLogix 5000 to use a custom motor. Anyone knows how to do this? [/INST] hlozano, a user cannot add his own a custom motor inside RS5000... you need to request your local RA representative to have the custom profile created for you, giving them all the datas about the motors. Anyway this procedure should be approved from RA before they start with analysis and profile definition... so I think it isn't quick to get...:smileysad: May also try to ask if there is already a profile created for your motor... take a look to the following thread: LINK Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I tried this with an upgrade to an exisitng customer system using Baldor servos. Rockwell sent me a custom database file for the Baldor motor. It did not work, even after myself, a local Vendor rep and the local Rockwell drive guy tried for 2 days. We ended up replacing the servos with Rockwell servos. In all fairness they did refund my $500 for the custom programming. \n </s>

<s>[INST] Display not able to shut down I have an application in FT View SE, I have several On Top Screens. On them I am using a button release action Abort me.On all of my other pop-ups this button closes the window just fine, but on 1 it wont close and I get an error Display(s) cannot be closed that's it.I can't find any difference on it from any other one I have done. I even deleted the button and created a new one with the same result.Anyone have any ideas? [/INST] Hi Smoke, could be possible to have your application attached in a new post to test ? - fuzzy logic Smoke, the only time I have seen that sort of behavior is when the screen is trying to complete some task and can't be closed until that task is done. Two possibilities are VBA code executing or a pending tag write that has not completed. If you have VBA, try disabling or deleting it and see if you get the same problem. If the problem goes away, then you can start debugging your code. For the tag write thing, check the FactoryTalk log (if you are using RSLinx Enterprise) or the RSLinx communication event log (if you are using RSLinx Classic). You might also try the divide and conquer approach - delete half the objects and retest. If the problem goes away, it was an issue with the half you deleted. Restore that and delete half again. Keep deleting until only the problem object remains. I experienced a similar problem but not quite the same. It turned out to be a power problem and using the OPC driver to talk to ControlLogix. First the power would fluctuate and make the PLC start to shut down. Before it went down completely it would come back up. It drove communications to RSLinx nuts and then trickled threw to the graphics. They would become sluggish is a you would normally expect. Sometimes they would lock up and you could not close the client. I would have to force Windows to close the unresponsive Client. Interestingly SE Server recovered. I dealt with the power problem and the lockups went away. I was told later that this was also tied to the OPC driver and that if I used RSLinx Enterprise this would not have happened. I have since installed Enterprise. I cannot testify that it made any difference. \n </s>

<s>[INST] A-B Micrologix 1200 & Real Time Clock We have recently install a A-B Micrologix 1200 with a Memory & Real Time Clock card to control a number of pumps in the plant. What we were looking to do was to be able to have a limited cycle time during the weekdays and not have the pumps cycle or have a limited cycle time during the weekend and/or on holidays. So what we're looking for is to have the pumps run on a daily or calendar based time. The info I received showed that the RTC card would work for this application, yet I am unable to get this to work. Any suggestions would help, thanks. [/INST] But really which is the problem?Do you have problem to configure/use RTC? Here a technote that helps on that...:smileywink: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=17503 If the problem is another, please post again with more informations...:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Ron, Did you enable the clock? If not go into the funuction file and do so. \n </s>

<s>[INST] FactoryTalk Activation Log doesn't exist. I was testing our FactoryTalk Activation Server after installation. When I went to look at the log on the server, I found that the 'logs' folder didn't exist. Of course, neither did the RSSRV.log file.I created each and restart the server, hoping it would start. It hasn't. Any thoughts? [/INST] Never mind. The Forum and Help was correct on the path.Multiple documents have the path as:C:\Program Files\Rockwell Software\FactoryTalk Activation\logs\RSSVR.logThis is not correct. The correct path is:C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Rockwell Automation\Activations\Logs I am also looking for the log file mentioned in the following post: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Activations&thread.id=338C:\Program files\Common Files\Rockwell Software\FactoryTalk Activations\Logs\RSsvr.log but can't locate it. Either the log file or an application that tells me who has which activation out would be useful. If you have FTA server installed, the file should be elsewhere...:smileytongue: Did you try to search it in whole HD drive ? This is the file you need, it contains all the infos.... - fuzzy logic Looks like we found the file, in the corrected path above. I don't have direct access to the server, so I have to wait for IT. Also, Note:c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Shared Documents\Rockwell Automation\Activations\Logs\turns intoc:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Rockwell Automation\Activations\Logs\ \n </s>

<s>[INST] CSTTimestamp Why are there 2 CST Timestamped Input Data tags for a DI Module shown in the tag table: Local:1:I.CSTTimestamp[0] Local:1:I.CSTTimestamp[1] Why is the tag value for the former negative?How can tell the time valve from the tag values? [/INST] From Aid 16988 : The CST is a 64 bit number that is held in a array of dint[2]. The input modules return all 64 bits but only the lower 24 bits are currently used in the output modules when scheduling is used. Thus time stamping is limited to 16.7 seconds into the future. This is based on the 24 bits being used (2 raised to the 24th give 16,777,216 micro seconds).Since this could change in the future its recommended that the ladder maintain both dint's and use the carry bit when adding a value to the lower 32bits as an overflow into the upper dint. When adding values to the lower 32 bits the number will become negative at some time and sometime later rollover to zero. When the value rolls back to zero is when the carry bit will get set. - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Can multiple PFlex 70/700 drive params bet set via SSV in CLX? We have many systems using either CompactLogix or ControlLogix and PowerFlex 70/700 drives via 20 Comm E modules. We are investigating the ability to download drive parameters via ENet to the drives from the processor using SSV's or Explicit Messaging triggered from a PV+. We usually change only a few parameters from factory default and want the ability to eliminate CopyCat or manual configuration via the HIM. Has any one done this? Thanks. [/INST] Bill, you may do this through explicit messaging, that potentially gives you the ability to read/write all the parameters in the drive, but there is also another simple way, using PF7x Datalinks... You have a maximum of 8 Input Datalinks (to write parameters in the Drive) and 8 Output Datalinks (to read parameters from the Drive. I suggest to read the 20-COMM-E User Manual, chapter 5 and chapter 6, in order to understand the two possibilities....there are also some useful examples... Also, take a look to Aid 32629...it has all you need to know in order to use explicit messaging Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, Thanks for the quick reply. The scattered write option is exactly what we were looking for. \n </s>

<s>[INST] Wire off detection 1794-IRT8/A module provides wire off detection. Also, in wire off condition the analog input signal will be set to maximum value of the range. If the input signal is programmed to trip certain device in RSLogix 5000, is it possible to inhibit the trip logic when in wire off condition? In wire-off condition, what tag will set to 1? If the wire-off problem is fixed, will the wire-out status tag be automatic reset? If not, then how? [/INST] re manual 1794-6.5.12 page 4-4 38 of 72 Read Word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits – represent module configuration and/or hardware errors.08–15 (10–17) Fault alarm bits – An alarm bit is set (1) when an individual input lead opens (broken,disconnected). If the alarm is enabled, the channel reads maximum value. Bit 08 (10) correspondsto input channel 0, bit 09 (11) to channel 1, etc. so you need to pull that word into a tag and use appropriate bit in your ladder. Word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits – How do these 4 bits represent module configuration and/or hardware errors? For example, if the diagnostic bits show 2#0101, then what do we have? Also, RSLogix 5000 will create module defined tags: 32-bit DiagnosticStatus, 1-bit DiagnosticStatus1~3. How do these tags correspond to word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits? Word 9 08–15 Fault alarm bits – These bits are used for wire-off detection for each channel. However, RSLogix 5000 will create module defined tags: 32-bit Fault for that, what is the use for the rest 24 bits? cfhung, all the answers are HERE, please close some of your threads, some of them are just asking similar things in other manner... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Well, could not get answers from there. Ok, answer *are* there, anyway, if you prefer, I may duplicate them here, in blue :cfhung wrote: Word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits – How do these 4 bits represent module configuration and/or hardware errors? For example, if the diagnostic bits show 2#0101, then what do we have? 0001 and 0011 thru 1111 Reserved for factory use, so only 0010 is valid, no distinctions between configuration or hardware fault... Also, RSLogix 5000 will create module defined tags: 32-bit 16 bit DiagnosticStatus, 1-bit DiagnosticStatus1~3 4 . How do these tags correspond to word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits? They are the same thing Word 9 08–15 Fault alarm bits – These bits are used for wire-off detection for each channel. However, RSLogix 5000 will create module defined tags: 32-bit Fault for that, what is the use for the rest 24 bits?Fault alarm bits are referred to individual channel, 32-bit Fault is module-wide tag, the first 8 bit of this word are used to indicate a communication problem, the rest of the bits in this word are not used.- fuzzy logic If the wire-off problem is fixed, will the correspondent FaultAlarm bit be automatic reset? Yes, for sure. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic To use wire-off dection Ch0~7FaultAlarm bit in user ladder may not inhibit the trip logic when in wire-off condition because the analog input signal will be set to maximum value of the range before the wire-off bit set to one. Is that right? As far as I can understand from the manuals and technotes, the IRT8 checks the line by trying to pull the line up to a positive potential. If the potential breaks down, the line is OK, if the potential is still above a limit after a defined time, the module reports a lead breakage( if enabled) So, it could happen the value is already clamped to max value and the fault bit isn't yet set. - fuzzy logic Wait, if the potential is still above a limit after a defined time, the module reports a lead breakage. What time is the delay time? Is the fault bit be set right after the module reports a lead breakage? If it does, then it should happen the value is already clamped to max value and the fault bit isn't yet set. Is there a way to inhibit a trip logic when in wire-off condition? The delay time is in the table below: So, the fault bit will go on after this time... Wire-off fault could be enabled/disabled using the Fault Mode Bits in the Configuration Data...see image below... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the information, but what I mean is how to inhibit a trip logic while enabling the wire-off function to keep alarm when in wire-off condition? Could ChxOverrangeAlarm bit be used? If the the wire-off function is disabled, except ChxFaultAlarm, will it also disable the input signal to be set to maximum value of the range? What about ChxOverrangeAlarm bit? Also, what are the tags Alarms.0~.15 used for? If a channel is configured as T type Thermocouple then the range for this thermocouple is –270 ~ 400℃. In the maximum temperature 400℃, T type thermocouple can only generate 20.872mV when the cold junction is 0℃. The input channel will never reach 100mV. How can the ChxOverrangeAlarm bit to be used? If all unused channels are not short, what the mechanism for them to affect system throughput? If a channel is configured as RTD but not used, since the nominal range for RTD is 0.00 to 500.00 ohms, will ChxUnderrangeAlarm bit be set if short the input channel? Why there are different delay times for different temperature elements? \n </s>

<s>[INST] Panelview 1500 Historical Trend In setting up a historical trend I've noticed that when a page containing a graph, let's say with 2h worth of data displayed, is closed and then re-opened, all but the last 20min or so of trended data vanishes from the graph. I'm using a datalog model and storing on the local CF card--what am I missing here? Is this a start time issue that requires a patch of some sort? [/INST] Just a note: which is the frequency you use to log your data ? Machine Edition data log is a circular one, max records are 300,000 and they are threated as FIFO. Take a look to Aid 36265 and Aid 36267 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply. Refresh is set at 1s. I'm only trying to display two active pens right now as the trending portion of the application is still in it's bench test stage. Once I get it to work the datalog model will contain 20 or so active analog tags. In setting up the datalog and trend object I used the examples set forth in the AB Best Practices notes as well as a power point file I found here, and some info in the help file that loaded with RSView ME. The app has a number of pages in it--trending is only shown on one right now. The datalog is running and actively logging to a CF with no issues. The problem I'm having is that when I open the screen with the trends (right now set to show 2 hours) the traces/pens do not start at the far left where they should, I'm only seeing the last 20% of the info. If I then let the trends run it will fill up the chart, as it normally would, but when I close the page and then re-open it I again lose 80% of the trend. I saw one note about setting the buffers/cache to zero, forcing the chart to use historical data when it refreshes, but have not tried that as yet. It seems to be a start-time issue-- In the Datalog Model, there is a setting for Maximum data points. Type the total number of tag values to store. When this number is reached, the oldest tag values are deleted to make room for new values. The minimum is 100; the maximum is 300,000. The default is 1000. Maybe this is not enough to maintain all the data you log.... double check it ! Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic I'm set at 1000. Here's a link to the note about the cache issue I mentioned: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=37373 Hmmm.. seems not be related to ME..... Just take a look to Aid 36854... there is a formula to calculate the data points you need to configure in your Datalog... I think that 1000 is not enough for you.... try to use a bigger value (i.e. 20000) Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic This may seem obvious but it gets missed A LOT ... Did you specify the datalog in the trend object properties? You have to tell the trend what datalog to pull historical data from, otherwise its realtime data only. JHutch Yes, I followed the AB setup guide to the letter, but it is not populating my chart with any info older than 20min (on a 2hour trend) when I open the page. Let me make sure I've got the data right in my head. 2 pens = 2 tags in the datalogrefresh rate = 1 sec That means 2 tags x 60 seconds = 120 data points120 data points per minute x 20 minutes = 2400 data points Your datalog is set for 1000 datapoints ... you'd run out of space after about 8 minutes 20 seconds. Solution (if I grabbed the data right from your posts): Increase the size of your datalog JHutch NOTE: A 300,000 data point log would hold over 41 hours of data. Thanks for the reply. This is still in bench test phase so I have not gone back with the formulas from the Technotes as yet. When the chart page is left alone and runs on its own, it will fill up the entire chart with valid traces. When the page/screen with the chart is closed, and then re-opened, I am losing all but 20min (on a 2hour trend)--it just goes blank. My question is--if the info is being logged to the logfile on my CF (versus RAM cache for real-time pens), why isn't the app going in and retrieving the logged data to reproduce the chart? I will try increasing the datapoint value--I am concerned though that the datalog model would have this limitation (and max value is 32767) as we intend to later try to log 2h worth of data from 20 pens. pw3 wrote: My question is--if the info is being logged to the logfile on my CF (versus RAM cache for real-time pens), why isn't the app going in and retrieving the logged data to reproduce the chart? If what I think (and JHutch too... :smileywink: ) is correct, you have not the possibility to retrieve the data from your log file,because oldest data (after 1000 data points have been saved) are overwrited in the log file, as it is a circular one and it is not big enough to contain your oldest data. pw3 wrote: I will try increasing the datapoint value--I am concerned though that the datalog model would have this limitation (and max value is 32767) as we intend to later try to log 2h worth of data from 20 pens.What do you min for max value ? Max data points in your log file are 300.000 Using the calculation posted by JHutch: 20 pens = 20 tags in the datalogrefresh rate = 1 sec That means 20 tags x 60 seconds = 1200 data points1200 data points per minute x 120 minutes = 144000 data points Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic It *is* going into the datalog to get the data (it's actually less than 20 minutes worth). The problem is, your datalog is full when it hits 1000 data points. At that point, it starts deleting the oldest datapoints as new one comes in, so you always have the LATEST 1000 data points in your log. The reason you are seeing it fill the trend when the screen is open is that the trend object has its own buffer of data. While it is open, it's filling that data from the datalog. But, while the datalog is limited to 1000 datapoints and starts deleting old ones when its filled, the trend object is limited to whatever fits in the object and only deletes data points when they fall off the side of the trend object. When you close the screen and come back, the buffer in the trend object is completely reset and it's only able to show you as far back as the datalog has data. JHutch Well that was it--changed datapoints to 14400 and set cache at 0 and now have 2h worth of trends when I open the page. Thanks very much for the assistance! \n </s>

<s>[INST] Alias Topics in FTView ME Is it possible to have Alias Topics/Nodeswitch functionality in FTView ME/RSLinx Enterprise, similar to what is available in RSView 32? I know that it is possible to have Alias Topics in RSLinx Classic, if someone has a workaround/method to implement a similar concept in RSLinx Enterprise, it would be very helpful.. [/INST] Sorry, Alias topics only exist in RSLinx Classic. The closest that RSLinx Enterprise gets to that is if you are using SE. Then you could have a redundant data server so that if the primary is unavailable for some reason, the secondary could take over. \n </s>

<s>[INST] FactoryTalk View Project Documentor I downloaded and installed the FactoryTalk View Project Documentor Utility that was discussed in an earlier thread. When I try to run the application I get the following error message - The application or DLL C:\RSI\CMN\ideutl.dll is not a valid Windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette. Has anyone else encountered this or know how to fix it? PC OS is XP Professional. [/INST] This sounds like a Windows path sort of thing. I'll bet that you have more than one of those .DLLs and the one that the Project Documenter is finding is the wrong one. This .DLL should be located in C:\Program Files\Rockwell Software\RSView Enterprise. Edit the PATH environment variable and change the order of the folders in the PATH variable so that the C:\Program Files\Rockwell Software\RSView Enterprise\ path is hit before C:\RSI\CMN. It's worth a try, at least. Thanks Jonathan Kent!That worked perfectly. \n </s>

<s>[INST] Parameter files and Strings in RSViewME 4.0 I am trying to do something that I think is simple in RSViewME 4.0. I have a String Display object on my screen that has a Connection to { [/INST] As all Parameter should be tags, you cannot... :smileysad: Anyway, there is a workaround, usint a Text object instead of a String Display with an embedded variable of type String. Aid 50973 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I had looked at that workaround before and I must be doing something wrong because I can't get it to work. I create a Text object and tried to put in just a String variable, with the syntax like this /*S:0 #1*/ and it gave me question marks on the display in Runtime. I then tried to make it a Literal String by just manually typing in /*LS:0 #1*/ rather than inserting a variable and it just showed up blank in Runtime. I think I must be doing something wrong with making a Literal String. I don't have any option for that when I insert the String variable. Is there something else I'm missing? Is a Literal String only available in SE perhaps? Or maybe I need to upgrade to 5.0? You need to use Literal String, but there is the possibility to select it in the Embedded Variable definition... I'm using Version 5.00 of ViewME, so I think it is a new feature... :smileysad: edit: I've found the following in the release note of ViewME v5.00: Parameter enhancements - provide support for embedded variables in title bars; literal numbers and strings in the embedded variable syntax; and display of right-most characters in embedded string variables. Take a look to the screenshot.... I've tested and works... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Looks like it's time to make the switch to 5.0. Thanks! \n </s>

<s>[INST] Allen Bradley breakers and motor starter I am working on some short circuit study but I can't find any information on the following items: G100 series breaker 10AG500 series breaker 50AG150 series breaker 15AManual motor starter, 140-MN-0400 [/INST] If you're searching infos about 1492-CB, try to take a look to the following links: http://www.ab.com/en/epub/catalogs/12768/229240/999999/9999999/3170943/index.htmlhttp://www.ab.com/en/epub/catalogs/12768/229240/999999/9999999/3170943/tab5.htmlhttp://192.94.123.20/idc/groups/literature/documents/td/1492-td011_-en-p.pdf About 140-MN, see Aid 31534 Considering the obsolescence of certain items, it is difficult to find out those infos, that are available on old Catalogs...I suggest to call your local Rockwell Automation representative to get more informations. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks a lot! \n </s>

<s>[INST] Multi-controller Is there any necessity for multi-controller in a ControlLogix chassis? [/INST] No particular necessity...you may install your controllers in any slot of your chassis...Every controller will have its application program loaded.The only limitation is related to the power consumption of your controllers... just be aware of this when you're selecting a power supply. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic One of the necessities I can tell is the connection problem. A ControlLogix controller supports 250 connections. If the connections for a controller run out, then additional controller is required to be installed in the chassis for additional connections. Is there any other necessity for multi-controller in a ControlLogix chassis except this? Ah, ok... now I've well understood your request...I was thinking about what is needed to realize a multi-controller system... :smileytongue: So, you may need a multi-controller system when you need to split your plant in more parts, so that if a cpu fail, not all the plant stops... or to separate the charge of the program execution...Another reason could be the memory limit (not seen too much time, as the memory size in CLX is not so limited); sometimes there are many motion axis to run, so it is better to split them on two cpus to take advantage of more horsepower in every cpu.Sometimes I've seen the needs to use a cpu to manage data store and one to manage the logic.... Here a thread with an example of multi-controller needed... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=ProgrammableControllers&message.id=631#M631 Other cpu limits seems to me difficult to reach, for example the maximum number of task, programs...it may happen, but in rare cases...:smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] PF700 Analog Output I have a project where I am reading output power from a PowerFlex 700 series A VFD (part number 20B D 077 A 3ANNANA0) over the analog output connection. I am scaling this value between 0 and 90 kW. My customer complains that at a no load situation the display from this scaling will be around 1.5 kW, while the HIM will display about .8 kW. If this is normal can you help me with an explanation? [/INST] DMM, it would be helpful to know how the parameters related to the analog out have been configured (i.e. par# - value) and also some informations about the analog in you use (is it a PLC module, which, which input range etc.). The more infos you put into your posts, the more help you can expect to receive from other users... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Par# 340 =xx11Par# 341 = xx11 Par# 342 = 5Par# 343 = 20mAPar# 344 = 4mAPar# 354 = 90 Analog input is not used, thus using analog output to simply represent output power. When drive is not running HIM displays .8kW, thus is there a hidden parameter for calibration as in the 4 class series? Thanks DMM, about Analog Input... I was meaning the device you use to measure the Analog Output coming from Drive :smileywink: It isn't clear to me if the .8 Kw value you have on HIM is with drive running at 0 Hz reference, or with drive stopped; if the case is the last, maybe the analog out is defective or the firmware of your drive has a bug in that parameter.If as I guess (and hope) you get this with drive running, I think could be an imprecision of the sensor with this low level of output.Unfortunately I don't know if there is an hidden parameter as that mentioned by you to calibrate the output.You may consider to correct this offset in your Display...if it is possible :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Rslinx enterprise communication setup error msg. Whenever I open the communication setup in studio (cpr 9) on a distributed project I get the following message. After 30-45 seconds I can press retry and make changes but a few seconds later I get the same message again. Anyone seen this before? [/INST] It almost sounds like it's timing out on a function call (obviously not an important one if you can still make changes). Can you see any application/service in Task Manager that's consuming more processing power than it should when it's in that Switch To state? (I hate Switch Tos) There's also a good Sysinternals tool for watching what's running on your server (more indepth than Task Manager). Process Explorer What's the EventLog look like? -Mark www.theAPAKGroup.com I'm not seeing anything abnormal in the task manager. Ofcourse rslinx takes up alot of rescources but only for a second and then everything is quiet. I checked the eventlog and found these errors. The time matches the startup of my laptop. No errors on the time I open the communication setup Take a look to Aid 23153, it threats a similar error message... - fuzzy logic The Aid 23153 looks a little like the problem I have but not quite. I can open and create new applications. And the error messages in the eventlog doesen't repeat. It only shows that one time on startup of laptop This might be a silly question, but are you an administrator of your laptop or computer that's hosting SE? No silly questions here :-). Yes I am an administrator on my laptop and on the HMI server also I think fuzzy logic might be on to something with the DCOM/Firewall settings. I found another article that was similar.Aid 33600I've found before little security setting gotchas that don't make sense, but fix the problem because the root cause is often hidden. Does Studio work just fine locally on the HMI Server? If so, I'd definitly target the DCOM settings. -Mark www.theAPAKGroup.com \n </s>

<s>[INST] add on instruction can explain what can we do with add on instrruction and what we cant ? rahul [/INST] can you expalin add on instruction with examples?? rahul any.......help on this ..other than manaul knock..knock are you there? You'll need to wait a little longer than 6 minutes per post if you want a response! :) Especially when you post at 2 in the morning US time when the majority of our customers are asleep. Now that it is morning, I'm guessing you'll start getting some responses. JHutch Usually I try to be fast in the answers, but in this case there is too much rush! :smileywink: Add-On Instructions are custom instructions that you design and create.With Add-On Instructions, you can create new instructions for sets of commonly-used logic, provide a common interface to this logic, and provide documentation for the instruction.Add-On Instructions are intended to be used to encapsulate commonly used functions or device control. Take a look to the ADD-ON Instruction Programming Manual There are also useful videos in the Start Page Media on RS5000; you may also download these videos at this LINK Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic RE - Add on Instructions BEWARE - before you rush off and start changing all your standard code into add on instruction form. As i have found out they are limited. You can not pass Arrays out of add on instructions and uploading programs from a PLC that contain add on instrctions can also cause you problems. Bless, Look in the Vendor Sample projects for examples. In V16 or V17, go to Help | Vendor Sample Projects. Look in the Rockwell Automation examples for Add_On_Instruction_Samples.ACD. Others are correct in their opinions to use with care. Here are my thoughts (guidelines): 1. They are intended as Instructions, not control strategies, control modules, equipment modules, units or anything really big. If you are putting a huge chunk of code to control a machine into an AOI so as to control a second machine, you are misusing AOIs. 2. The definition cannot be online edited. So don't put anything in an AOI that you would have to online edit (change at startup with a bunch of impatient managers standing around). Yes, make them configurable (with data) -- so you could have a valve AOI that is configurable for Use Limit Switches / Don't Use Limit Switches -- but not much more complicated than that. Use the AOI as a valve driver -- that opens and closes a valve -- but don't use it to decide WHEN to open and close the valve -- that is highly likely to change on startup. 3. Outside visible parameters can only be SINT / INT / DINT / REAL / BOOL (atomic types), for inputs and outputs. Any type (array, UDT) can be an InOut parameter, but that data is NOT part of the backing tag for the instruction -- it's a separate tag. So now your instruction instance has TWO tags instead of one. Things start getting confusing. (Local tags, hidden away inside the instruction, can be any type.) 4. Avoid using Messages and ALMA/ALMD block within an AOI. Message and A&E tags MUST be base tags because they have ties to some controller buffers. Every MSG or ALMA or ALMD would have to be an InOut parameter and you have to set these up separately. (MAJOR PRODUCTIVITY TIP: If you do use MSGs and you want to use your AOI in multiple projects, don't export the AOI -- export the RUNG with the AOI on it. You'll get the MSG configs and the message data tags and their contents in the export.) 5. Test test test test and test. Make sure you handle powerdown / powerup and PROG to RUN properly, and give at least some consideration to the EnableInFalse routine, especially if you are using AOIs in LD. (By the way, if you use an XIC of EnableIn, you should go back and read the manual again. EnableIn is ALWAYS true in the Logic routine and NEVER true in the EnableInFalse routine!) Also, I haven't used my AOIs in SFCs, so I can't speak to how to design/use the Postscan routine. Sorry....) In short, AOIs are great for things like algorithms (temperature compensating flow, steam saturation curve), device drivers (valve, motor, smart transmitter support, 3rd party module support) and such, and not so great for making BIG things (a machine or a process unit) as a replacement for copying'/pasting a Program. If you can live with the InOut parameters and extra tags, AOIs are nice for adding a new type to the Logix language. The vendor sample project I mentioned above shows how to add a Date&Time type and all the math instructions to support it (like GRT, GEQ, LES, LEQ, EQU, NEQ, ADD, SUB, etc., but for date/time data). I assume you could do similar things for data like Vectors, Complex Numbers and such.... (3 + 4j) + (2 - 7j) = (5 - 3j) Good Luck! And pay attention to what you do with your AOIs on startup. If you keep going offline, making changes and downloading, either the instruction wasn't well tested or it's a misapplication -- you're using AOIs like custom code and not for generic, reusable things they were designed for. Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ I find them to be a poor halfway house at the moment and hope that when the next new release of Logix5000 comes out that they have been developed further. Add on instructions in Logix5000 have along way to go before they have anything like the capabilities of a Siemens S7 Function Block. I have had no trouble passing both UDTs or Arrays into and out of Add On Instructions. But like others have mentioned, keep it short. I have used them frequently with outputs, where if I turn on output A I want to be sure output B is turned off. I also built filter timers into the AOI, which you can ignore if you don't need but means you can always fill in a time if you determine later that you need it, without really needing to modify the program. I also put input monitor so that if an input should turn on with the activation of the output, the AOI monitors that, and it also looks for an input to turn off. The above AOI for us also generates an error word, which is an array passed in and modified if necessary and then passed out. Although it sounds like a complicated AOI it's only 8 rungs, with no complex logic inside of it. The advantage we find is first, consistentcy in programming and second, simple error checking built in just by using the command . If necessary, you can make it so that only people who have a password are allowed to change it, and you can even turn off the ability for others to view the code, if you want to. You also can apply Revision Levels and notes to AOI's, which can be helpful for future trouble shooting or documentation. This also can make it easy to send out modified commands to other projects which use the same AOI in that you can export it, and the other project can then import it, and if the changes will take place automatically everywhere you used the AOI command. One further thing which might be a benefit, is that the AOI seems to take less memory than if I repeated the same 8 lines of code for each output I use the AOI for. I have not bothered to look this up however,so take memory saving with a grain of salt. Hope I wasn't too wordy and that this helped. We use them for other commands, but like others have posted, keep it simple. If you really need a lot of logic then you probably should use the Task/Program/Routine to write the logic instead of trying to cram all of it into an AOI. and apply security to them if it is needed. Sorry to re-open this post but I have a question regarding a comment made by W8ABZ, the comment goes like this:- Bless, Look in the Vendor Sample projects for examples. In V16 or V17, go to Help | Vendor Sample Projects. Look in the Rockwell Automation examples for Add_On_Instruction_Samples.ACD. Others are correct in their opinions to use with care. Here are my thoughts (guidelines: 1. They are intended as Instructions, not control strategies, control modules, equipment modules, units or anything really big. If you are putting a huge chunk of code to control a machine into an AOI so as to control a second machine, you are misusing AOIs. I am about to embark on a new project for a simple custom built assembly machine and I would like to use AOI's, phase manager and follow the learnings of ISA S88 standard. I have purchased a book called Design Patterns for Flexible Manufacturing which is a pretty good read and the way I am interpreting it, it appears that a control module is the lowest level of control which in my opinion would suit an AOI controlling say a valve/cylinder with a couple of sensors perfectly. I the above statement by W8ABZ he is using all the S88 terms like control module, equipment module, units etc which immediately drew my attention so I am assuming that he has a pretty good understanding of the concept however he is indicating that a control module should not be an AOI. Have I miss interpreted the actual concept of a Control Module and it is not a group of code that would perform basic tasks like managing the extention and retraction of a cylinder when instructed by a higher order equipment module??? Would really love to hear some comments surronding the implementation of S88 and phase manager. Cheers KidPLC and all, First, be aware that everybody has a different opinion of what a Control Module is -- within the limits of the S88.01-1985 definition. What I'm giving is my opinion. Take it as that only, please. (Moderator: perhaps a new thread from KidPLC's message on is in order.....) If I look at the built-in instruction set, I might build a PID loop using a scaling instruction to go from raw analog input (say, 0-4095 for my old 1771-IFE) to engineering units, an ALARM instruction for PV alarms, a PIDE for the actual loop control, and some other blocks for override/hand support, etc. To me, this sheet of function blocks is ONE Control Module -- it regulates one process variable in a fairly straightforward fashion. I could make similar arguments for a discrete 2-state device (motor, valve). A sheet of function blocks or a range of rungs (if I want to be modular, I make it a ladder Routine) including D2SD (or equivalent ladder logic) plus permissives, interlocks, etc., is ONE Control Module. If you look at the old ProcessLogix system (which I had a fair amount of experience with, no doubt pre-disposing my opinion), a CM was basically a sheet of function blocks. S88.01 allows CMs to contain CMs, so you can have three PIDs -- suction pressure, discharge pressure, motor current -- on separate sheets plus a low-select to the pump drive output so that you don't pull suction pressure too low, or discharge pressure or motor current too high. You're still manipulating one variable (drive speed ref to the pump motor), but now you've got something more complex that you might code with a combination of ladder and function block Routines. But to my mind it's still ONE Control Module. We can come up with examples, like two interacting variables, where the one controlled variable rule is technically broken, but it's still a single (complex) control strategy. How does this fit with AOIs? IN MY OPINION: An AOI should be something basic, that you configure, perhaps, but don't edit on startup. The logic to monitor a motor and determine if it's running, starting, stopping, stopped, failed to start or failed to stop belongs in an AOI (Motor). The logic to decide when to start or stop the motor is part of the process control strategy and likely to change on startup. You can't edit an AOI online, so I would not put this logic in an AOI. IN MY OPINION: AOIs are the building blocks (along with built-in instrucitons) for control strategies (Control Modules, Equipment Modules, Equipment Phases). The CMs, EMs and EPs are the Routines (for EP, the controller Equipment Phases, which are peer of Programs) that hold the AOIs and built-in instructions. Now, you could have a CM that contains one instruction, like Motor for a manually-operated motor -- assuming you mapped the I/O as REQUIRED input and output parameters so they were on the instruction face, etc., etc. But to me, that instruction plus it's I/O mapping, interlocks (if any), permissives (if any), Mode stuff (if any other than operator) belongs in a motor CM Routine. If the Routine contains one instruction, so be it. Again, MY OPINION. You will find countless others and I don't want to start a huge discussion, flame war, etc. I've had success using the above philosophy -- your mileage may vary. If you want to start a flame war, ask for opinions on the relationship between Equipment Modules, Units and Equipment Phases....... that's even more all over the map than the CM discussion. Good Luck and Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ Hi W8ABZ, Thank you for your detailed reply I really appreciate your insights. I agree that there is allot of scope for individual interpretation of the standard. It will be interesting to see how I am able to fashion my program into the S88 model over the course of this project. Cheers KidPLC \n </s>

<s>[INST] Bit shift instruction Hi. I'm having difficulty getting the BSR or BSL to work with non-array type variables? For example, I want to shift the bits in a single DINT. Is this not possible without using a math instruction? Thanks. Len [/INST] In CLX it has to be of an array data type. This BSL is shifting a single bit across 32 bit word. Hi Len, as Smoke wrote, the Array operand in the BSL/BSR requires an Array tag, so you need to define it as TAG[1] or greater for the dimension. To change the tag dimension you need to enter the Tag editor; edit the Data Type and change Array Dimension 0 field from zero to one or greater if you have more than 32 bits to shift. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the help. What I wanted to do though was shift the bits in a single DINT, not an array of DINTs. It seems a bit strange to me to not have this ability in the BSR/BSL instructions. The solution I used was to divide the DINT by two (as suggested by a colleague). Len Len, Another instruction useful for shifting bits is the BTD (Bit Distributor) instruction. This lets you move a selected range of bits from one SINT/INT/DINT to a different range of bits in another SINT/INT/DINT. The BTD doesn't use a CONTROL structure, enable bits, that kind of stuff -- it's an immediate thing like any math instruction that executes whenever the rung is true. So it doesn't have a low-to-high transition requirement, reset, etc. The bits you don't copy across are left in last state (sort of like a masked move), which may or may not be what you want to do. Just so you have all the available bit-dinking tricks up your sleeve! Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ \n </s>

<s>[INST] Printing Selected Rungs in RSLogix 5000 Has anyone else have this problem? You go to print a few rungs of a routine using the File --> Print --> Rungs: Then it prints out the entire routine, wasting about 50 pages of paper. It only happens the first time you print it seems. I've looked up this problem and it seems like people are coping with the problem by just using 3rd party software to capture/print the current screenshot. Does anyone know a better way? It's not a big deal but I tend to like trees. Eric [/INST] Hmmm.... just tried using v15, v16, v17 and it works fine for me... :smileysurprised: I may use both Selection or Ranges to print some rungs. Did you get the same with all your projects ? Or just one ? If the last is true, try to save the project as .L5K and then reimport... (not sure if it will help, but it is quick to try :smileytongue: )Did you also test it on another PC ?Which is the software version do you use ? I'm afraid but I'm not able to replicate your issue here.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Hey Fuzzy I'm on v16.03. The frustrating part is that it seems to happen randomly, and only once for the project I'm in, then it never happens again until I open another project or after I restart the computer. This happened to a few of my other co-workers on other PCs as well. Thanks for trying, I'm planning on upgrading to v18 after January, maybe that will fix the problem. Eric For what it's worth, I'm having the same problem that Eric is having. Versions installed: 16.03 and 17.01 \n </s>

<s>[INST] 1794-IE8 configuration issue when power is lost I am having a very strange problem with a 1794-IE8 module. It located on Logical Rack [/INST] Modify your program as follows: BTW Control Block in N100:0BTW Data File N101:0BTW Buffer File M0:1.400 BTR Control block in N102:0BTR Data File in N103:0BTR Buffer M1.1.500 ...as per Instruction Manual indications: Each instruction uses both the M0 and M1 file for that one hundred word buffer (1 through 32). For example, to use the first available buffer (1) for a BTR, enter M1:e.100 into the “Buffer file” field. However, M0:e.100 is also used by this BTR. So, the next BT instruction must use another M-file buffer (2 through 32). Hope this helps… :smileywink: - fuzzy logic This was exactly what I was missing. I must have read that part of the manual 100 times. Apparently I didn't digest it. Thanks very, very much! You made my day. Steve \n </s>

<s>[INST] trying to get 2 5/04 on ethernet We have a piece of equipment that has 2 5/04 and a panelview all on DH+. One of the 5/04 already uses the other channel for communication to a PC. If we hook up the 2nd 5/04 to a NetENI, does that enable you to go online with both 5/04? If not, is there a resonable solution to this. Actually 5/04, panelview and PC is really the only one we care about. But since both channels are already used, that is why I was thinking of going the other way, through the second 5/04. ThanksGeorge [/INST] George, as per the fact 1761-NET-ENI cannot act as a bridge, you can't do this connection... :smileysad: Anyway, you can go thru CH0 of your SLC to DH+ using serial DF1 driver and enabling passthru; take a look to the following technote. Aid 54625 Another solution is to use ControlLogix Gateway configuration: I mean a CLX chassis, a power supply for it, a 1756-ENBT module (to connect your Ethernet network) and a 1756-DHRIO module (to connect your DH+ devices). You don't need a CPU to obtain this gateway work. :smileysurprised: Then you may see all your DH+ devices thru ethernet... just be aware of the following technote in case you need to download an application to a PV via this gateway. Aid 19393 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] How to concantenate numeric value into string display expression Hi, I'm trying to build an expression in a string display so that it looks something like this:(70 - 90) My expression currently looks like this: ( + {[CLX]Value1} + - + {[CLX]Value2} + )FT View Studio accepts the expression without complaints but it doesn't work in FT View Client. The diagnostic list say cannot add a number to a string. Is there a way to accomplish this? Thanks! [/INST] Yes you will get this error because you are trying to allocate a numeric value to a string. A way to achive this (without resorting to VBA) is to select the ‘Text’ Object (menu – Objects – Drawing – Text) (or the capital ‘A’ icon). Double click on your new ‘text’ object and use the insert variable button to insert the two numeric tags and add your padding text as required. So for your example (using my tags Numeric\Numeric1 and Numeric2) will give: ( /*N:5 Numeric\Numeric1 NOFILL DP:0*/ - /*N:5 Numeric\Numeric2 NOFILL DP:0*/ ) Note: You do not need the “” marks to donate text because you will be using a Text Object and it knows it’s all text. So the syntax /*N:5 Numeric\Numeric1 NOFILL DP:0*/ is taking the tag Numeric\Numeric1 and displaying it’s value formatted to 5 characters, no fill characters NOFILL and no decimal point DP:0 TavMaster, it is not possible to Concatenate a Numeric Value to a String in a String Display (it is possible to use either a Numeric Value alone or some Strings Concatenated) A solution is to move the values you need to display, to a string tag in CLX (using DTOS instruction - see screenshot below).Then you'll have the following, where the red tags are String Data Type containing the numbers from your DINT tags: ( + {[CLX]Str_Timer_Acc} + - + {[CLX]Str_Timer_Pre} + ) ...and this works fine.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thanks to both of you for the suggestions! I went with yorkshire's solution because it doesn't require additional PLC coding. Ok,Yorkshire won this match, I accept the defeat... :smileyvery-happy: :smileyvery-happy: may be next time.... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Unable to Download Scanlist to 1756-DNB- Communication error 12 One of our customer was using 1756 DNB Series B Rev5. Now he want to replace it with Series C Rev 10 module. The problem is, when attempting to download the saved RSNetwox File, it gives an error and download terminates. We followed the solution given in Answer ID 48877, But the same occurs while downloading scanlist. Error: Unable to establish communication with the target device,Communication error 12. Controller : L63 V16. Electronic keying is Disabled. Also we deleted the old DNB module from IO Tree and added new one. But he was not able to select a revision more than 5 in his logix 5000 V16. Please Help [/INST] Normally this error comes when something is communicating with the scanner and prevent another connection to it to be established.Try to remove the scanner module from the I/O tree, put your controller in prog mode, and cycle power to PLC chassis and Devicenet.Then try again the download.If it succeed, then you may add your module in the I/O tree again , as before, disabling Electronic Keying. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Sorry for late....and thanks for your answer... I found that the problem is with the firmware and i just upgraded the module..It strated working fine..Here is the link foe knowledgebase article regarding the 1756-DNB series C firmware revision 10.004 anomolies.Answer ID 49899 \n </s>

<s>[INST] PID TUNNING CAN ANY ONE EXPLAIN ME HOW TO TUNE THE PID.PROCEDURE TO TUNE THE PID. [/INST] knowbase doc 47606 SLC/ML Instruction Set Reference Manual (Pub 1747-6.15 January 1998) PID Tuning Example it is an involved procedure... there are also automatic pid tuning software like RSTune. No documents found. LOGIC_FUNDA, cfhung and all, May I suggest Good Tuning: a pocket guide by G. K. McMillan, or Controller Tuning and Control Loop Performance (2nd Ed.) by David W. St. Clair, both available from the Books (or Publications?) page at http://www.isa.org/ The particular values of tuning parameters will depend on whether you have selected Independent Gains or not for your PID or PIDE instruction. Also, be careful of units of measure. The following paragraphs discuss these issues. Allen-Bradley PID instructions usually default to Proportional Gain (Kp), which is a unitless multiplier (1.0 is unity gain), whereas many DCSs use Proportional Band (PB), the percentage the input must change to result in a 100% change in output. The two are directly related as follows: PB = 100.0 / Kp So a Proportional Band of 50 means a 50% change in input generates a 100% change in output, or a gain of 2.0. Also watch the units on Integral and Derivative. Many DCSs use an integral time or integral gain in units of Minutes per Repeat or Repeats per Minute. Ki in A-B controllers is often in units of 1/sec. Many DCSs use a derivative time / gain in minutes; the PID defaults to seconds. Allen-Bradley PID and PIDE default to Independent Gains: Output = Kp * e + Ki * (integral of e) + Kd * (de/dt) whereas most DCSs have the Proportional Gain (Proportional Band) apply to all three terms: Output = 100/PB * ( e + 1/Ti * (integral of e) + Td * (de/dt) ) Note that 100/PB (gain) multiplies all three terms. Notice how I used 1/Ti in place of Ki. As for a basic procedure:1. Set derivative gain to zero, set integral gain to a minimal non-zero value. Set proportional gain to a low value.2. Put the loop manual, adjust the output to get the PV to some reasonable value (manual control)3. Put the loop in auto, make a step change in SP (not enough to damage equipment or people, but enough to require control action).4. Trend the CV, PV, SP. The process will very likely not oscillate and will take very long to come to setpoint.5. Double the proportional gain and make another step change in SP (perhaps back where you came from). Watch the trend.6. Keep doing number 5 until the process just goes into oscillation. This gives you the ultimate gain. Note the period of oscillation. This gives you the ultimate period. These numbers can be plugged into a number of rules (look up Ziegler-Nichols on Google) to give you Kp, Ki and Kd. or7. Cut Kp in half and start increasing Ki until you get reasonable response without oscillation. For all but slow capacity (temperature) loops, you don't need derivative. If you think you need derivative, get a tuning tool or see the books above. There are many other books on loop tuning, and I'm sure many publicly-available web articles. If you're using PIDE on Logix and you have the Professional edition software or the proper add-on license, use the AUTOTUNE tag on the PIDE to do the work for you! Just keep an eye on the process and kick things to manual at a safe output if stuff start to get out of hand. Be safe. I tend to use conservative tuning to avoid overshoot -- it's often fast enough. Some processes need to be tuned with a little more oomph. If you're tuning manually and not using AUTOTUNE or tuning software, make sure you're trending SP, CV and PV and save your trends so you can review after the fact. (Probably good to do even if you ARE using auto tuning!) Get a good book on loop tuning and go through it a couple times, and compare your trends to the charts in the book. It'll help you decide which parameters to adjust in which direction. Be aware that tuning can change with process loading (flow rates, production rates) or even ambient conditions. That's why I tend to tune a little conservatively -- in case the process gain (or deadtime) goes up with changes over time. Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ \n </s>

<s>[INST] help Good afternoom guys I need your help, I want to know the configutarion of cable to Communication between paneview 600, 2711-T6M and Micrologix 1400 if can sent it me I really gratefull your help. the number of item can help me to. thanks a lot and have a good day.manuel viveros. [/INST] Assuming you're asking for a 2711C-T6M... if you have a different model, please post again. See the following image for complete infos to connect the Panelview Component to MX1400 serial channel 0.... :smileywink:Ethernet communication could also be used, just you need a standard Cross cable to go directly, Patchcord cables if you go through Ethernet switch. See also Panelview Component User Manual and MX1400 User Manual for more infos. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] accessing non allen bradley devices with OPC software I have given all our Allen Bradley devices IP addresses on our network. This has made life easier for a lot of reasons. I have now been asked to put data from our checkweighers onto the Panelview plus screens for our operators. the checkweigher company want to run CW_OPC_V2_0_19. Can this be accessed through either Panelview plus directly, SLC 500 or Logix 5000? If so can someone give me a step by step describtion how please. [/INST] Neither of the devices mentioned can access your OPC server... :smileysad: Which is the protocol used by the checkweigher ? - fuzzy logic TCP/IP protocol. is there software that can link the two? Hmmm... may you post the exact model of your checkweighers ? Thanks....- fuzzy logic Yes. They are Cintex CS4000 What I may suggest is to check the possibility to use a Kepware driver in PanelviewPlus to go directly to communicate with your checkweighers, either using an available protocol over ethernet, or using an hardware gateway to convert the protocol used in that devices to a protocol compatible with PLC or PanelviewPlus (Ehternet/IP). At the following links some examples of gateways.... http://www.hms.se/products/abx.asphttp://www.psft.com/prosoft/products/stand_alone_gateways/ethernet/ethernet_ip - fuzzy logic I think you may have saved me some hard work here as the checkweigher people want to fit a very costly adapter to create TCP/IP. The links you have sent seem to be able to do this directly. Or am I jumping the gun? Really I don't know... :smileytongue: anyway, check what is available on your checkweighers in terms of comm ports (serial, ethernet etc...) try to retrieve informations about the protocol used in these ports, and then you may search the right converter you need to transfer the informations between those devices and logix via Ethernet/IP. For example, if you have a serial port available on your checkweighers, this converter could be what you need... http://www.hms.se/products/products.asp?PID=110&ProductType=Anybus%20Communicator I apologize I'm not able to help you more....:smileysad: - fuzzy logic No problem and thanks for your time at least I know what direction to head. Ok, hope this will help.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] 800F Selector Switch Contact Block Configuration -- Need Help. Hi All, I am trying to configure a 22mm 800F 3 position, return from right, illuminated selector switch. I want to use this like a start/stop button combination. When the switch is in the left positon (STOP) I want a set of contacts to be open. This would be in the STOP circuit. When in the center (or ON) position I need the STOP contacts to be closed. In the right (START) positon I need a second set of contacts to close. When these contacts close I will start a motor and latch it in. I will also energize the LED light in the switch. When the switch is released it will spring back to center (ON). The second set of contact will open but the motor will continue to run and the LED will stay lit. If the power is removed the motor will stop and the LED will go out. When the switch is moved to the left (STOP) the light will go out and the motor will stop. I have tried the RA on-line configuration screen but it tells there are no contact blocks to do what I want. I don't beleve that. I must be doing something wrong. Any help? ThanksPhilip [/INST] Gear required:800FPLSR33800FN3G ( green LED 24vdc )800FALP800Fx10 (n/o) on left side800FX01 (n/c) on Right sideLight wired to aux on Contactor David, Thank you so much for your assistance with this. 2 thumbs up! \n </s>

<s>[INST] Powerflex 40 I have a power flex 40 which has power to it but no power on the screen and just 3 flashing amber lights Port, Mod and Com A. please help!!! [/INST] Perhaps those drives have failed due to a problem with the switchmode power supply.Take a look to Aid 34911 .... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic This may well be the causeof why its nit running, does this mean the drive is permenatly damaged? any ideas on my I have flashing amber lights instead of green? If it doesn't recover after some power cycles, then it need to be repaired. :smileysad: Here some notes taken from another *old* thread: On some early PF4 and PF40 drives there were some components that were affected by heat a bit more than expected and this problem showed up. Only certain models of PF4 and PF40 drives had this issue, and only up to a certain date. Drives manuafactured after October 2005 have the improved design. If it is determined that your drives fall into the date and catalog number range, as determined by your distributor, then these drives will be repaired. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic About the leds over your drive... see the User Manual for the communication module you're using, troubleshooting chapter, to get infos. See this LINK to get the right manual.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Found the manual but no explanation for that combination of lights, have tried ringing Allen Bradley tech but all they want to do is send out and engineer and won't just let me speak to an engineer!!! Effectively the amber leds flashing is quite strange... and not documented. I think the drive has to be repaired / replaced, anyway it is important you may have the opportunity to talk with a Tech Support guy to discuss the issue before / instead of sending an engineer, as this can be unnecessary. Unfortunately I cannot help you on that... my suggestion is to call your Rockwell representative to ask them interact with the support ... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] No activations in the Current Activations tab Having issue with FactoryTalk Activation tool not giving me any Current activations. When I go under the settings tab it states The activation server (lmgrd.exe) has not been installed as a Windows service. I would like help in figure out what needs to be done to fix this problem. [/INST] I guess you've software installed those have Concurrent Activations... First check if your activations are present in FactoryTalk Activation Tool under Rehost tab...that means they are correctly allocated in the right folder and the file .lic is correct...otherwise you have to go thru the FAQ and see how to get activations... After this you need to install the Activation Server, downloadable from here:http://files.rockwellautomation.com/Public/FactoryTalk_Activation_Server.zip Then, go in the last tab of the tool and press Start, to run the Activation server...it should remain started...Open again the Current Activation tab, and you have to see your activations, so that the software can run normally. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] SIL2 sample code Dear Sir, I am looking for SIL2_IO_Fault_tolerant sample code for logix5000, Rockwell published, but we can not find it,even don't now where to buy if required.We are in urgent need, please help.Thank you [/INST] Hi ,what actually you want?Whats the application you are talking about?can you brief me up?:smileyhappy: There are two main publications that explain the SIL2 system and Fault Tolerant system. Using ControlLogix in SIL2 Application SIL2 System Configuration using RS5K subroutines The second one, gives reference to another publication, 1756-AT012, but this isn't available at this moment... edit: 1756-AT012 is available for download In order to have the special routine developed by Rockwell Automation I suggest to contact your Rockwell representative, they will give you the program and the documentation needed.That is the only way to get the program, it is not available for download directly at the moment.The name of the application example should be SIL2_IO_Fault_Tolerant_V4.acd Here a LINK to Worldwide locator for Rockwell Automation offices... - fuzzy logic Thank you very much.But my RA representative in Singapore said they don't have it. Even I can not find the spec of those subroutines. I don't know why.Maybe I have to write all these code myself. Say them there is a Rockwell Internal Technote for that... Aid 55756, with the right contact name and phone numbers they have to call in to get this program... technical support members must have the rights to see that technote... :smileysurprised: Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] RSLogix5000 lack of compare feature Is the there a tool in RSL5000 comparable to the compare tool in RSL500, ora method of doing a compare between two versions of a RSL5000 program? [/INST] RSLogix 5000 has a separately installed Compare Tool, a free utility that is included on the RSLogix 5000 CD or available via download. See Aid 56608 - Aid 52526 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] 1756-L65 Is there a V16 firmware package? I have a system that uses 3 contollers all running V16. One Is the master program A L64 that is deep into the yellow zone for memory. I would love to just Drop in the L65 with 32Mb of memory and not have to Flash up the other (2) L61 servo controllers, (2) DNB, (4) Sercos, and other cards as required. If that is the only option then so be it. Just sometime an ugrade unlocks other troubles. [/INST] I have to confirm you that 1756-L65 minimum (and actual) firmware revision is 17.02 :smileysad: - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] SMC-3 control terminal question I have a really basic question on some new SMC-3 (150-C16NBD) softstarts I am installing: How are IN1 & IN2 used? I dont understand how they work or what they are. The datasheet does not say. Thanks! Jeff [/INST] See the following technotes... Aid 62695 - Aid 62696 - Aid 24364 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] PowerFlex 400 - not operating at low drive signal input voltage? We have a PowerFlex 400 drive that is set for 25Hz at minimum and 50 Hz at maximum. The speed is to be controlled by a 0-10VDC input signal. At 10VDC the drive runs 50Hz, at 5VDC the drive runs 37.5Hz and at 2VDC the drive runs at 30Hz. Anything below 2VDC, however, results in the drive not running at all and being in standby mode rather than run mode. The run forward input to the drive is on at all times. I thought that with the min at 25Hz and the run forward input on, at 0VDC (or slightly greater than 0VDC) the drive should run 25Hz and increase in frequency as the voltage continued up to 2VDC just like it does from 2VDC to 10VDC. Is this not how the drive operates? Is there somewhere in the configuration that I should be looking? [/INST] Hi, please post how you've configured the following parameters: P034P035P038 T069T070T071T072 - fuzzy logic Parameters are configured as follows: P034 - 25 HzP035 - 50 HzP038 - 2 T069 - 2T070 - 0T071 - 100T072 - 2 The issue you get is a normal behavior using Analog Signal Loss...you have to change parameter T072 to something else, otherwise your drive will stop when voltage is lower than 1 volt considering it as a signal loss... see the screenshot. Another possibility is to set Analog In 1 Lo (T070) to 20 % (2 volts) as suggested in the Parameter below in the screenshot, so that you will have 2V = 25 Hz10V = 50 Hz Hope this helps… :smileywink: - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] PF400 - F3 Power Loss I am currently using a PowerFlex 400 VFD (part number: 22C-D038A103 – 480VAC, 25HP). I am sometimes receiving Fault Code F3, Power Loss (DC bus voltage remained below 85% of nominal). Since the action specifies to “monitor the incoming AC line for low voltage or line power interruption” is there any documentation that quantifies low voltage? [/INST] Here from the User Manual - page A-3 F3 - Power Loss - FRN 5.03 and earlier only:The DC bus voltage fell below undervoltage level within 200 ms of a start command, DC bus ripple voltage is excessive, or an input phase loss has been detected. Power Loss Fault (F3) occurs if an undervoltage condition is present on drive power up, or if there is excessive DC bus ripple (for example a missing input phase) whilst the drive is running. - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Best Way to Fire an Event Based on a Tag Change? Over the years when using RSView32, I have often needed to fire an event based on a tag value changing (i.e.: Tag1). In the past, I would handle this by adding an additional storage memory tag to store the last value (i.e.: Tag1LastValue) of the tag I am interested in monitoring - my expression in the Event Editor would then be Tag1 <> Tag1LastValue. The problem with this approach is that it requires an additional memory tag for each data change event I would like to monitor. Is there a better way? Thanks! [/INST] Using the Event Detector, it isn't possible to fire an event on a Value Change as you would; following a note from KB that explain how this kind of event is limited: The Event Detector does not support a value change event. If the tag value being monitor transitions between 0 and some value, then it is possible to use the Event Detector in a value change mode. If the tag value is changing and always results in a true condition, (true represents any non-zero number), then event can only fire once. Only way is to use some VBA code containing the VBA Event <ValueChange>. Two KB notes can be useful for you: Aid 5261 - Event Detector VS VBAAid 3325 - VBA sample to catch a fast event Anyway, I don't think this solution will let you use less memory than your usual method... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks for the response fuzzy logic... I was not aware of this method to handle changes with VBA (normally, I would place a text box on the screen (hidden by color), link it to a tag, and then use the text box's change event). I will definitely give this alternative method a shot. Thanks again. Still surprised that Rockwell does not have a simple Data Change event though! \n </s>

<s>[INST] Register information of CompactLogix5000 I just want to know that is there any possibility to find out the registers information of compactlogix5000 controller..?..? [/INST] space, Not sure what you mean by register information. The CompactLogix series is like the ControlLogix series (uses RSLogix 5000 programming software, etc.), so it doesn't have a numbered array of registers for a data table; instead, it lets you define whatever named Tags you need, of atomic types: BOOL a bit SINT a short --- 8-bit --- signed integer INT a word --- 16-bit --- signed integer DINT a longword --- 32-bit --- signed integer REAL a 32-bit floating-point number (IEEE) You can create tags of system-defined types as well, such as TIMER (done bit, enable bit, timing bit, preset, accumulator), COUNTER (similar), CONTROL (for file instructions), MESSAGE, etc. There are also module-defined types of tags, such as the input and output data structures for various types of I/O cards. Plus you can define your own data types, such as a Motor that has start and stop command bits, plus running, stopping, stopped, starting, faulted bits, a start count, a run time TIMER, etc. So if I have a Tag P101 of type Motor, then I can set P101.Start and can monitor P101.Running. Tags and tag Data Elements (for structures) are given names you define, not pre-defined numbers. As for controller registers (like the S file in a PLC-5 or SLC-500), the CompactLogix / ControlLogix use GSV (get system variable) instructions to read such data, again, by name. So instead of looking at S:18, S:19, etc., to get the date and time, I do a GSV to the WallClockTime class and read the LocalDateTime attribute. I get the data back in an array of year, month, day, hour, minute, second, microsecond. This may sound like more work, but it's just one instruction that populates the array, and there are tons of controller objects/classes and attributes that you can read (and write, for some). Perhaps a good place to start is the 1768 or 1769 CompactLogix Controllers User Manual (1768-UM-001B-EN-P or 1769-UM011F-EN-P). There's also a quick-start document (IASIMP-QS001B-EN-P). All of these are installed on your workstation if you did a default install of RSLogix 5000 software. Go to Help | Online Books and select CompactLogix in the left-hand frame. Or you can download these by publication number from the online literature library. If you have RSLogix 5000 installed and want to know what all the available GSV/SSV objects (equivalent to S-registers) are, go to Help | Instruction Help and select the GSV or SSV instruction (in the Input/Output Instructions section); then click the link to GSV/SSV Objects (close to the bottom of the page) for the list. I hope this helped. Sorry if I did not answer the correct question.... I tried to answer the two I thought of: registers as what does the data table look like and registers as controller-specific data registers. Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ \n </s>

<s>[INST] RS500 i had someone show me how to change the picture to the rsi graphical online icon once, how do you do that, thank you, i know that it is not a really technical question, but would like to remember how i did this [/INST] You have to right click over the online icon, keeping ctrl button pressed on your keyboard; then you have one row more in the selection, named animation...:smileywink: - fuzzy logic thank you fuzzy, just had to know that, i am sure you know the feeling, thank you \n </s>

<s>[INST] failure code 31 on pv600 where can I find the fault code for this panelview? [/INST] Unit is failing the stuck key test. Some technotes in Knowledgebase threat this error, more explicative is Aid 42387. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) for SLC Hi all experts again, appreciate if someone can confirm me the list of MTBF values for only SLC and its I/O? I couldn't find it via your web, only ControlLogix and PLC5 series have all the MTBF. Much appreciate of the reply... [/INST] Some informations here: http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/archive/index.php/t-27810.html As you see, best way is to ask Rockwell Support the specific module info... maybe thru Ask a Question in the Rockwell Knowledgebase. - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] FSC instruction with strings OK, I have searched the forums, tried the online chat, called my local rep, no one has an answer to this one yet...I am setting up security in my PLC. I want the user to enter his user name and password on the HMI and I will loop through an array of strings to find the previously entered user name. When I find that, I want to record the array element number and check to see if the password matches in the array of strings that holds passwords. If so, I want to set a bit that I can use in the rest of the program to indicate that the user is logged in.Sounds pretty straight forward right? Well, here is what happens...I monitor the entered user name to see when it changes, when it does, I use an FSC instruction to compare it to the array of stored user names I have. The array is 100 elements long, I probably won't need quite that many, especially at first, but as time goes on, I will need quite a few. Anyway, if the .fd bit is never set, I send a message back to the HMI indicating that the user name was not found. If the .fd bit does get set, I store the .pos value and use the stored value to compare (using an EQU statement) the entered password to the password array with the same element. If it does not match, I send the HMI a different message indicating that the password did not match. If it does, I latch a bit indicating that the user is logged on.Now, here is where the problem comes in. For testing purposes, I only have values in two elements of the two arrays. I enter a user name that matches one of the values, and the corresponding password and it works. I enter the second user name (to switch users) and matching password, and I get the .fd bit set, but the .pos is wrong. I know it's wrong because I get the HMI message that the password is wrong. I re-enter it, and I get a successful find with .fd bit, .pos being correct, the whole 9 yards...I am absolutely befuddled!!!I can post the ASCII text for the three rungs if anyone wants to try to duplicate it... [/INST] OK, please post the instructions ASCII text...just to start with the same logic... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic XIO OpChange NEQ HMI_OperatorUserID OperatorStoredID BST OTL OpChange NXB COP HMI_OperatorUserID OperatorStoredID 1 BND XIC OpChange BST FSC OPCheck ? ? ALL HMI_OperatorUserID = Operators[OPCheck.POS] NXB XIO FinishOPCheck XIO OPCheck.FD BST MOV 1 HMI_InformationCode NXB DELETE HMI_OperatorUserID HMI_OperatorUserID.LEN 1 HMI_OperatorUserID NXB DELETE OperatorStoredID OperatorStoredID.LEN 1 OperatorStoredID NXB DELETE HMI_LoginPassword HMI_LoginPassword.LEN 1 HMI_LoginPassword BND NXB XIO FinishOPCheck XIC OPCheck.FD BST MOV OPCheck.POS SearchKey NXB EQU HMI_LoginPassword OpPasswords[SearchKey] BST OTL OPLoggedIn NXB COP HMI_OperatorUserID CurrentOperator 1 BND NXB NEQ HMI_LoginPassword OpPasswords[SearchKey] MOV 2 HMI_InformationCode NXB OTU OPCheck.FD NXB DELETE HMI_OperatorUserID HMI_OperatorUserID.LEN 1 HMI_OperatorUserID NXB DELETE OperatorStoredID OperatorStoredID.LEN 1 OperatorStoredID NXB DELETE HMI_LoginPassword HMI_LoginPassword.LEN 1 HMI_LoginPassword BND NXB XIC OPCheck.IN OTL FinishOPCheck NXB XIC FinishOPCheck OTU OPCheck.IN BND XIC OpChange XIC OPCheck.DN BST OTU OpChange NXB OTU FinishOPCheck BND Variables are:OpChange Bool HMI_OperatorUserID String Operator_StoredID String OpCheck Control Operators String[100] FinishOpCheck Bool HMI_InformationCode Dint HMI_LoginPassword String SearchKey Dint OpPasswords[100] String CurrentOperator String After two days in the chat sessions with tech support, the issue has been resolved, the solution was to use a RES instruction with the control word of the FSC as the address BEFORE the FSC instruction. That apparently resets something inside of the FSC instruction that I was not resetting manually.Kudos goes to Bruce Kyer for his assistance with this!! \n </s>

<s>[INST] What software do I need What software do I need to program a PanelView 300 Key to a MicroLogix 1200 and a DF1 link from a LapTop Computer, and where can I get from. [/INST] Well, for Panelview Standard you need Panelbuilder32 (cat. nr. 2711-ND3) and for Micrologix1200 RSLogix500 Starter (9324-RL0100ENE); you may realize the DF1 connection to your laptop using RSlinx Classic, that is already inside the RSlogix disc (Lite version is enough for your needs). You have to buy your licences to a local distributor or you can order it from a Rockwell Automation sales office.To search an office near to you, follow the link:http://www.rockwellautomation.com/locations/ \n </s>

<s>[INST] FT View SE New Alarms and Events objects I need some clairification on the new Alarms and Events Objects versus the old alarming setup. I have spoke with several Rockwell employee's about how good the idea is and I get mixed answers. I was told that the Alarms and Events type of alarming is better because it moves the alarming away from the HMI and back to the controller, where the alarms are located. I have also been told that it puts a large strain on the controller. I think the alarms should be handled in the conroller, but not at the expense of the performance. I have a large program running on a ControlLogic processor with 3 remote 17 slot racks. The SE Alarming is horrible and I like the option, but how do I know what it will do to my system if I move the alarming over to the Controller? [/INST] Down and down the list I go, where I'll stop noboby knows... From what little I've learned about the new alarms and events, under MOST circumstances, overall performance will often be better. But, you *are* moving the bulk of the work from the SE app to the CL processor. If your processor is already working pretty hard, it may be a problem. Unfortunately, I just don't have enough experience with it to make an educated guess as to the impact. If you go to Ask a Question, you'll at least be sure to get it in front of the eyes of the product experts. JHutch The FT Alarms and Events objects in View SE can be used even if you decide not to use the ALMA and ALMD instructions in the controller. Many times the control code is set (or done by somebody else) and you won't be able to get them to go through the code to implement new alarm instructions. However, the banner/summary objects - along with built-in alarm history - make the View objects a huge improvement over the existing HMI Tag Alarm summary object. If you would like to take advantage of the A&E objects in View without moving to ALMA and ALMD instructionsj ust yet, you can add a Tag-Based Alarm and Event Server to your project and configure your digital and analog polled alarms there. Technote 45583 in the Knowledgebase contains a tool that will convert existing traditional HMI Alarms to Tag-Based A&E alarms. This doesn't really answer your question about performance, but you can start working with the new alarm object in View before making the commitment to ALMA and ALMD. Hope this helps! If I go and convert with the conversion tool to the A&E Events banner type of alarming, am I committed to using it or will the old alarm summary work as well as the A&E banner. The old alarm summary knows nothing of the new Alarms and Events. You would have to use the new summary. True, they know nothing of each other. But converting doesn't delete the existing HMI alarms. They are never deleted unless you delete them. So if you convert using the conversion tool and import the resulting files to your application, you will essentially have 2 copies of your alarms. 1 copy is the traditional HMI alarming with the traditional alarm summary. The 2nd copy are the Tag-Based A&E alarms using the new alarm summary. They can work together in the same application as long as you use both summary objects. To disable traditional HMI alarming, use the AlarmOff command or just don't start it when the app starts. Thanks for the pointer!:smileywink: \n </s>

<s>[INST] Electrolytic Capacitors shelf life I have a panel with several PF40s and PF70s ( 30 hp) that has been in storage for several years. I was told that I need to re-form the capacitors and was referrenced TN 18015. Does this this mean I should not have spare inventory for drives? It seems to be a very complex procedure and not suitable for small plants? What is wrong with this picture? [/INST] This issue comes new to me, and it is an interesting thread. In effect this happens due to the *nature* of the Aluminium Electrolytic Capacitors, and thus it applies also to other Drives (I mean non-Rockwell... :smileytongue: )Some other infos in Wikipedia.... also there is explained the re-forming process... Then, it means you can have your spare for sure, but you have to be aware of this issue and prepare your drives before proceed to use them...that means that after several years you have not a quick direct replacement part in case of failure of original system... :smileysad: About the reforming procedure: yes, it seems quite complex... maybe the last explained could be the most suitable for simple reforming. The other option is to apply the input line voltage to the Drive, the current limited resistor should still be used in series with the input power. Then allow the drive to power-up, thus applying bus voltage across the capacitors and re-forming them. Allow the drive to sit in this state for at least an hour prior to operating the drive. - fuzzy logic One of the things that I did was that I created a preventative maint. work order in our CMMS for once, every six months, to remind to drag my spare drives out of storage and power them up in my shop. I would leave power on them, one or two at a time, for a couple of hours each. If you don't have a large quantity of spares, then this may be practicle. This proved to help. Another thing that I have found, is that the caps usually have a longer storage life than what the specs. say. I would rather have a good spare drive that I have to drag out and power up once every six months than sit around waiting on having a new one overnighted. Hope this helps!George36 \n </s>

<s>[INST] PF700 Fault Alram.. If PF700 shows fault or alarm, I couldn't know when that alarm happened. Because PF700 just shows total inverter running time with alarm message. So I need yy/mm/dd/hh/mm/ss like this type for reporting. Please change it by firm-ware upgrade or other method. [/INST] I agree with Sungjong. I have often experienced somes frustrations while troubleshooting because PowerFlex 700 doesn't timestamp the default. Adding this feature would be welcome. To All, I agree with everyone on the timestamping of VFD faults. The PowerFlex drives need an internal realtime clock that can be set from the HIM or over a comm. link (such as Ethernet, DeviceNet, ControlNet...) with the use of the Clock Update tool. I use this tool to set the clocks in all of my PLC's/PAC's (ControlLogix, PLC5...) and it works great. Thanks for bringing this up. Dlogger \n </s>

<s>[INST] PLC-5 Hello everybody, have a nice dayi have a question, i´m working whit a PLC-5/40E, currently it´s conected to a pc with Cimplicity, but i made the same aplication into a panel view 1000 standard. the question is:Can the PLC works conected whit the Cimplicity across de channel 2 via ethernet, and the PV 1000 across the channel A via DH+? [/INST] Sure thing. In fact, if you have an Ethernet capable PV, *both* devices could be communicating across Ethernet to the PLC. JHutch \n </s>

<s>[INST] E22 Fault on Ultra 3000 urgent ....please...What may be the causes for E22 on ultra 3000 sercos [/INST] Sumesh,i hope i got a solution for you. Question Drive in fault with error code 22 reported Answer Note. The Motor filter concerned resides in the drive and its data is compared with currents commanded to the motor in order to effect this protection, i.e. a software version of a thermal switch. Problem: Motor Filter ON indicates the internal filter protecting the motor from overheating has tripped. Cause: Wrong Motor file Verify: Check motor file in use in software confiiguration Cure: Correct motor file in use in software confiiguration Catalog Number: 2098 Ultra 3000 DocFullNum: E20843 Pls try it out and tell me the results. Hope it helps.:smileyhappy: Sumesh, maybe you need to update your motor database in Ultraware to correct this issue... Here a link to technotes that helps... Aid 38188 Aid 39505 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] 1794-IRT8 Series A simulation 1794-RN067B-EN-P - October 2006 “Using the 1794-IRT8 Thermocouple RTD Module Release Notes” described that “Do not use this 1794-IRT8 series B product in series A mode. Do not connect a jumper across terminals 39 and 48 on the terminal base unit.” However, 1794-IN050J-EN-P - January 2009 “TC MV RTD Input Module 1794-IRT8_B Installation Instructions” described that “To simulate series A module wire-off detection behavior using a series B module, connect a wire between terminals 39 and 48 on the 1794-TB3G or 1794-TB3GS terminal base unit. If not connected, the Series B module will default to Series B functionality. The two descriptions seem conflicting, who is right? [/INST] Both are correct.... :smileysurprised: just is important to note that the first manual you've indicated reports this issue applies only to particular revisions of the module ... The second is really new (Jan 2009) and assumes you've a newer version of the module (IMO it would be better to still report this anomaly also to the last manual... :smileysurprised: ) Anyway, technote 35026 better describes the issue... - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Flow rate calculate There is some ML1100 Micrologix function to calculate the flow rate accurately, from a measurement of weight? [/INST] Refer to the MicroLogix 1100 Programmable Controller Instruction Set Reference Manual Thank you. I got it as calculated with the instructions of the ML1100. What we still do not understand is how to make a routine run periodically, with good accuracy. I use a timer interrupt? I read the RTC and execute it with precision doing it this way? From already thank you for answering. Hi, if you want to scan a routine with a defined period of time, you have to use an STI...it is explained with details inside the Reference Manual indicated by allentcm, starting at page 272. Here an extract: Example of where you would use the STI are: • PID type applications, where a calculation must be performed at a specific time interval. • A motion application, where the motion instruction (PTO) needs to be scanned at a specific rate to guarantee a consistent acceleration/ deceleration profile. • A block of logic that needs to be scanned more often. All the settings (I mean the ladder file to launch, the setpoint time to use to execute it etc.) are inside the related tab in the Function Files. - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] Starting RSLinx Classic from a DOS-Box with different projects I stored 3 projects on a RSLinx Classic. They all have different Topics. Is it possible to start RSLinx with parameters to set witch project should be started? thx for answers [/INST] AlexB, I've a solution for you... :smileyvery-happy: Just a short Disclaimer:Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might require that you reinstall the operating system. Rockwell Automation cannot guarantee that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk. Always back up your registry before making any changes. This solution is not provided by Rockwell Automation, it is not supported at all and is provided for testing purpose only. :smileysurprised::smileywink: You have to create three .reg file (using a text editor) that write the Default DDE Project Key before start RSLinxClassic. Example of a .reg file that will charge the DDE project named Default: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Rockwell Software\RSLinx\Project] Default=Default Example of a .reg file that will charge the DDE project named NewDDE: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Rockwell Software\RSLinx\Project] Default=NewDDE In the same folder of the .reg files, you may add different batch files (.bat) to load the right registry and start RSLinx. Example for the first DDE project: echo off net stop RSLinx regedit -s RSLinxProject1.reg echo *************************************************************** echo * echo * RSLinx Default DDE Project has been loaded echo * Press a button to start RSLinx Classic echo * echo *************************************************************** pausecd\ cd Program Files\Rockwell Software\RSLINX\ start RSLINX.EXEexit RSLinxProject1.reg is the name of one of your .reg files.Be aware to use the RSLinx.exe path correct for your installation. Now only needs is to start RSLinx using the batch file instead of the usual shortcut... - fuzzy logic Thank you Fuzzy Logic I´ll try this method. I found a similar solution. It is possible to use the backup/restore function. I made three backups of my different project.On startup I select which file to be restored and after that starting my visu system. example: @echo off REM REM SETLOCAL net stop RSLinx Classic net stop Harmony REM sleep 5 if %1X==1X goto L1 if %1X==2X goto L2 goto L1_2 :L1 SET LINE=1 echo Restore RSLinx Line %LINE% runas /savecred /user:opcserver C:\Program Files\Rockwell Software\RSLinx\backupcmd -r -f:D:\u\visu\Line1.rsx goto END:L2 SET LINE=2 echo Restore RSLinx Line %LINE% runas /savecred /user:opcserver C:\Program Files\Rockwell Software\RSLinx\backupcmd -r -f:D:\u\visu\Line2.rsx goto END:L1_2 SET LINE=1_2 echo Restore RSLinx Line %LINE% runas /savecred /user:opcserver C:\Program Files\Rockwell Software\RSLinx\backupcmd -r -f:D:\u\visu\Line1_2.rsx goto END :END echo Starting Procon-Win ... sleep 5 start /DC:\PROCON-WIN\VisuC /B C:\PROCON-WIN\VisuC\pro-win.exe D:\pcsprjct echo Done. ENDLOCAL - Alex Ok AlexB, thanks for you feedback and your solution posted... could be useful also for other users. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] RSView 32 SCADA not Opening Dear all, While opening the SCADA file , i`m getting the message, DLGRDSV32.DLL was not found. Re install the application Is there any way to solve the problem without re installing SCADA? Wat might have caused this problem??? [/INST] Please confirm for sure the .dll name is correct.... I cannot find any infos about it. If possible, please post a screenshot of the error message... also Operating System and RSView32 version could help. - fuzzy logic Actually that was a wrong information from the client side.They have tried to operate the SCADA after formatting the PC. Tats reason for error message.I restored the system by selecting a restore point. Now , i faced a different problem. I cant establish communication between PC and PLC.When pressing the Autoconfigure in RSLinx, i got the message , Unable to open specified COM port for configuration testing After that , restarted the system for so many times and tried to communicate.But, the system got configured in my sixth attempt of restart. What might have caused this problem???Is this a hardware or software problem???? This error message is usually seen when some other program has already grabbed the COM port that RSLinx Classic is trying to reserve.To solve this problem, you will need to identify what program has the COM port. One common source of conflict would be if both RSLinx Classic and RSLinx Enterprise are installed on the same computer. If so, and if RSLinx Enterprise also has a serial driver, go to the Windows Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Services and stop RSLinx Enterprise (right-click and select Stop). Otherwise, you've to troubleshoot your system, Aid 31573 could help (TechConnect Authorization required to access) - fuzzy logic is there any software to identify Programs that use COMM port??? I've never used such programs, anyway here you may find some indications: http://www.hardforum.com/archive/index.php/t-713296.htmlhttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896644.aspx Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] add on instruction can anyone expalin add on instruction feature with examples. [/INST] Take a look to the ADD-ON Instruction Programming Manual There are also useful videos in the Start Page Media on RS5000; you may also download these videos at this LINK ... see the attachment to this post...Also you may find some examples program on the V17 RSLogix 5000 CD, and they should be installed together with RS5000.To find the ACD file go to the Start Page, Quick Start then Open Sample Project and select for example Add_On_Instructions_Samples.acd Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] HMI has been split into two boards! We've split the HMI board in FactoryTalk View SE/ME and everything else. This should help keep traffic a little more manageable and searchable for folks. (NOTE: No messages were lost in this split) JHutch [/INST] nan nan \n </s>

<s>[INST] Compatibility with MS Windows XP SP 3 Can someone tell me if RSlogix 5 7.10.02 (CPR7), RSLogix 500 7.10.00 (CPR7) and RSLinx 2.50.00.20 (CPR7) are compatible with Microsoft's service pack 3. Thank you, Eric [/INST] As of today, Windows XP SP3 is not supported by any Rockwell Software products, except the offline use of RS5000 v17.... Aid 52120 Aid 42682Aid 54244 Aid 40786 - fuzzy logic For what it's worth, I'm using RSLogix Pro 500 7.30.00 (CPR 9) and RSLinx Classic 2.52.00.17 (CPR 9) without much trouble on Windows XP Pro SP3. The only issue that I've run across so far is the failure of the 1747-PIC device. Instead I use a 1747-UIC to connect to my SLC 500s. I hope that helps, Greg \n </s>

<s>[INST] Activation for RSBizware FactoryTalk Transaction Manager Actually We have installed Historian Classic on a server, the configuration is ready and working the problems is when I push the PLAY button in the Bizware FactoryTalk Transaction Manager the software send me the message The product has not been activated and has been operating without activation for a grace period of seven days. The grace period has now experied. after that I click on the OK button, then another message appear on the screen This application will run in Demo mode, limiting your configuration to 10 tags for a duration of 2 hours. This application will not run in Demo mode on computers that are running RSBizware. after that I click on the OK botton another popup appear with a confirmation I click on the OK botton and the service get ON. We have installed and assigned the activations: FactoryTalk Historian 5000 Tag, RSBizware Single User Runtime Activation, RSBizware Unlimited User Runtime Activation.In The FactoryTalk Activation Tool I can see the activations: Hist5000.exe, Histauth.exe, RSBWRTSU.EXE and RSBWRTUL.EXE. What kind of solution do you think apply in my problem. Thank you. [/INST] Hi, first I have to say I'm not an expert on this.... :smileytongue: anyway, just trying to give some help.... It seems to me you'll need an Activation for Transaction Manager.... (something like RSSQLPRO.xxK or RSSQLSTD.xxK).Otherwise you have only the Embedded Version of the software...it could be not possible to use it as you need... :smileysurprised: See the screenshot.... taken from Transaction Manager User's Guide... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] PanelView and Ethernet Network Hello everybody!!! I have an application with a PanelView Plus 700, which is still working, but the communication was made with Ethernet connection to the controller. Unfortunately the panel view has some problems with the communication. The distance between the Panel View and the controller are 20 meters. Could you tell me, if I have to use a special cable for Ethernet? Where could I fine this information? I would be very delighted to hear from you soon. Kind regards, Yari [/INST] Yari, attached the required cable specification... If you are constructing your own cable, be sure to respect the color code as indicated in the following technote... it is important for the standard ethernet cable impedance between lines... :smileysurprised: Aid 22895 Many times the problem was not related to the length.. just the right pairs/color used in the cable ! Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, Many thanks for your quickly answer. :smileyhappy: Just one question more about the same. Where could I fine this manual: EtherNet/IP Media Planning and Installation Manual ENET-IN001? I found only this one: enet-ap001_-en-p. We need this information to check the cable, that the customer provided. Why? Well this is an isolated network, it means, there is only a PanelView Plus 700 with a Controller, but if the controller go down and up after some minutes, the panel view cannot find the controller. I asked today morning to support and they said, that the problem could be on the cable. So, do you have any other idea, where the problem is? By the way, we won't do any cable. The customer will buy the right cable on site. :smileyindifferent: I would be very delighted to hear from you soon. Kind regards, Yari Yari, try the following LINK for the manual... ENET-IN001 is old and I think it is not available... Obviously, try a shorter cable and also another long cable, to see if the problem comes with the length or not... also not exclude a problem in the hardware devices...(PanelviePlus Ethernet card, PLC etc.) Anyway, the length you need should not be a problem...:smileyindifferent: - fuzzy logic Yari, did you solve this issue ? Have you any feedback to share? :smileyhappy: Thanks,- fuzzy logic Dear fuzzy logic, The problem is always there.:smileysad: But I don't know if the customer has all right, I mean. If the connection to the electricity is the correct, and so on. So, this time I cannot share anything.:smileyindifferent: Anyway, thank you for your question. Have a nice day.:smileyhappy: Yari \n </s>

<s>[INST] changing Panelview 1000 from dh+ to ethernet I have a Panelview 1000, 2711-T10C8, FRN 4.20. I would like to change the dh+ module to ethernet. Can that be done? If so, is it an end user swapout? If parts necessary, what are the part numbers? I also thought I read somewhere the RS-232 port is for uploading / downloading only, is that true? ThanksGeorge [/INST] This is not possible... :smileysad: Here a KB note on that: Aid 41901 Also, from User Manual, reguarding the item you've specified: Use the RS-232 port to: • transfer PanelView applications between a computer and the DH+ terminal using a direct connection. • connect a printer - fuzzy logic Thanks for the very quick response. I was pretty sure that was the case, but doesn't hurt to ask. George \n </s>

<s>[INST] Ultra 100 - DeviceNet Is anyone ever faced problem during download to network (DeviceNet) and had error message code EDS 2011. The error message description as follow: Node 4 communication error (0xC)'Error response received: Device state conflict.; SCIA(0x10, 0xF, 0x2D, 0x1), Param45 Thanks [/INST] This may be due to the drive being in an ENABLED state, as certain parameters can only be written to when the drive is DISABLED.The drive should be DISABLED either via terminal rail or Ultra Master software. The download can the be attempted again. - fuzzy logic I checked my copy of RSNetworx and Parameter 45 for an Ultra 100 is Encoder Lines. That definitely sounds like a parameter that cannot be set while the drive is enabled. Download to Network does not load any network-wide parameters in DeviceNet like it does in ControlNet. All it does is go through all the devices in the RSNetworx project and load their offline parameter values into the online devices. In my opinion, there should be several are you sure dialogs before this feature can be invoked. There are quite a few devices that can't have their parameters changed during certain operational or network modes, so those can't be included in a Download to Network series of downloads. Download to Network is also particularly dangerous if the offline project is incomplete or has old parameters in it. If you've gone online with a fresh RSNetworx project file but you have not uploaded from all the devices successfully, you will end up loading default parameters into any device that has been browsed but not uploaded. So be judicious in your use of the Download to Network feature. \n </s>

<s>[INST] Basic alarm setup \ troubleshooting I have a PVPlus application running and have added the alarm multiline display since I can have situations where more than one alarm happens at the same time. I went into the editor and configured some of the tags to test but I am not getting an alarm on the pvplus once its downloaded. The PVPlus is replacing an old IDT terminal and the logic in the PLC5 is using an integar file but the alarms are integar bits (n9:0/0) and then speeds are displayed using the whole word (n9:5). I have tried using the bit and value configuration but don't seem to be getting anywhere. Is there a document that can help me figure out the madness? S!eve [/INST] showelljr, In your case you have to configure the alarm trigger pointing to the integer that contains the alarm bits (N9:0) using a trigger type bit; than you have to assign to your messages a value, starting from 1 that means N9:0/0, until the last alarm you use (the number is the offset position of the bit inside the word) If you have more words of alarm, you have to specify the number of that words after you select the trigger( N9:0,Lx - x stays for the number of elements you use). The right source that you may use to understand your issue is the ViewME User Manual, chapter 9, pages 9-12 9-13:http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/viewme-um004_-en-e.pdf Hope this helps... :smileyhappy:- fuzzy logic I understand what you are saying but what I am having a hard time with is that has I put my alarms into the editor ({::[947113_PLC5]n9:0,L4] and then each one of them has a trigger incrementing from 1 up to 64, if I have multiple alarms is it still going to display all of the alarms that are tripped into the Multiline display? If I have well understand, you are using the Library Display called MULTI-LINE.This is a pre-formatted display that uses Alarm List to show the alarms. Based on the selection that you can made inside the Alarm list configuration (double click on the banner - Display Tab) the display shows you the active/inactive/all alarms; leaving it to the default settings, it will show all the alarms and, if you have for example N9:0 with all bits to 1, you will see all the associated alarms appear together. - fuzzy logic \n </s>

<s>[INST] FTViewSE - options for reading values from a database and displaying on GFX Hello: I was wondering what others have done in the past for reading values from a database and placing them onto a GFX. Example: You're logging temperature once per minute to a db. You can write a query to show the average temperature over the past day, via query analyzer manually. How do I get this value onto an FTView SE screen? The only thing I'm aware of is VBA via ADO, but if there are other options I'd like to hear. Using FTView SE, v5.0 and SQL Server 2005. Thanks,T [/INST] nan \n </s>