Source: http://gulagbound.com/25535/presidential-eligibility-sovereign-voters-should-have-standing-as-electors-pe/
Timestamp: 2019-04-26 13:11:10+00:00

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(Jan. 27, 2012) – As a citizen of the United States and a registered Democratic voter franchise owner and thus a Presidential elector in the State of Texas when I vote in a Presidential election, I have followed the nationwide attempts to vet the politician occupying the Office of the Presidency since 2010 with increasing alarm. That was the year I discovered for myself the misprision of treason that seems to have infected the Democratic Party and their leadership like a cancer. I will not legitimize his presence in the Office by calling him President. I will refer to him with all due deference, based on civil courtesy, as Mr. Obama.
The hearing conducted by Judge Malihi has given me cause to hope that the Constitution will be honored and upheld and that justice will be served. The correct response by Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp to what seemed suspiciously like a threat from a lawyer representing Mr. Obama in the state of Georgia has reinforced that hope.
However, a case brought before Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter has been cited by those who support the undermining of the Constitution and the installation of a usurper in the Office of the President in order to somehow argue that Judge Malihi and Georgia Secretary of State Kemp have had their hands tied with respect to the vetting of a Presidential Candidate on Constitutional criteria. This court ruling and its arguments should not be suffered to stand and should be appealed to a higher court in light of the evidence presented in Judge Malihi’s court on January 26, 2012. A review of the 2008 case is necessary, particularly in light of the behavior of Mr. Obama, his lawyer, the Georgia State Democratic Party and the Private Corporation that is the National Democratic Party. It is deeply offensive to me that an elected Attorney General would distort the mechanics of our election system with the intention of propagating the misrepresentation of Mr. Obama’s claim to be a natural-born citizen and is an affront to every registered voter in the State of Georgia. Moreover, it is an affront to every registered Democratic voter in the Nation, who should be asking questions of their State and National party.
What proof do you have as the private corporation who is backing Mr. Obama for the position of President that he is compliant with Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution? If your support rests on the definition of natural-born citizen as found in Black’s Law Dictionary (9th Ed.), you would do well to realize that this definition is that of a native citizen, not a natural-born citizen. The definition of natural-born citizen has not yet been interpreted on the merits and thus defined officially by the U.S. Supreme Court. The only definition of natural-born citizen is found in Minor v. Happersett and has been recognized by the Senate in U.S. Senate Resolution 511 (signed by Mr. Obama) as a native citizen (born under the jurisdiction of the United States) who has been born of U.S. citizen parents. Does the Democratic Party place a law dictionary above the Constitution? Does the private corporation agree with the argument of former Georgia Attorney General Stefan Ritter in Terry v. Handel (2008) that no participating registered voter actually votes for the President of the United States but for the Corporate appointed electors to the Electoral College who then choose the President as dictated by the Corporation?
Reading the transcript of Terry v. Handel (2008) was a revelation and provided me with eye-opening insight into the absolute contempt with which the Democratic Party–and its party-installed politicians in all branches of Government–holds its registered members.
“I want to start with more big picture issues and then move on to some specific things.
In the United States, as the court knows and as I think the plaintiff well knows, the President of the United States is not actually a candidate on the State’s Ballot. The Electors who will vote for the President of the United States are candidates. None of their citizenship or any of their other qualifications are in issue here. It is not the authority or the purview of our Secretary of State to make any sort of decisions about whether the Presidential candidate of a Particular Party, which is what this is, is qualified to run. That’s not what our Secretary of State does.
And, in fact, the qualifications provision which Mr. Terry cites in his somewhat lengthy complaint, which is as 21-2-132, plainly says in subsection (a) that the provisions relating to other qualifications do not apply to electors for President of the United States.
So this is fundamentally a case that is not within the purview of the Secretary of State. And I respect the power of this court, but, of course, this court does not have the authority, nor does the Secretary of State have the authority to engage in this, into a roving investigation of Mr. Obama to decide whether or not he is a citizen. The Secretary of State’s duty is not to go aside to try to investigate Hawaii records to see whether Mr. Obama is a citizen.
So there you have it. As a registered voter, you are not voting for the Presidential candidate of your choice, but for the politically-appointed electors to the Electoral College process who have no allegiance to the Constitution or to the voters, but rather, to the private corporation that appointed them. When Judge Jerry Baxter ruled against Mr. Terry, he was ruling that no voter in Georgia actually votes for the Presidential candidate of their choice. He ruled that the Georgia Secretary of State cannot investigate the citizenship claims of the members appointed by the private corporation known as the Democratic Party because they are not covered by Georgia Election code. In effect, since the Electors for both the Democratic and Republican parties are not elected directly by the voters of Georgia and are beholden to the State Parties alone, they cannot be vetted or challenged by any voting citizen. And in this regard, Judge Baxter was correct. The Party-appointed electors who vote in the political process known as the Electoral College are private corporate employees. They are not state actors. They exist on the federal side of the state/federal interface of our electoral system and are unaccountable to the State Elections Officers and State voters.
However, Judge Baxter completely ignored the main point of the lawsuit, as have so many others. Mr. Brian Terry was not questioning the citizenship or natural-born citizen qualifications of any of the appointed electors to the Electoral College from either Party from the state of Georgia. He was questioning the Constitutional qualifications of the candidate who was a suppliant to the State of Georgia for inclusion of his name on the Georgia State Presidential Ballot. One wonders why Mr. Obama bothered since, according to Ritter, no registered voter in the state was actually voting for him even though it was his name on the ballot along with Hillary Clinton and other Democratic candidates at the time. All he had to do was have the Georgia Democratic Party declare him the winner and dispense with the fiction that any citizen’s vote matters in a Presidential Election.
I would respectfully put it to Judge Baxter, Mr. Ritter and Ms. Handel that a President cannot be elected without the popular vote. That should tell you where the party-appointed electors stand in an indirect election. THEY cannot do a thing until the individual registered electors in the general population cast a vote to direct the members of the Electoral College for whom to cast their votes in a winner take all Primary Election. These appointed and corporate/party beholden members have no authority to operate independently of the popular vote. They do not select the President; they convey the choice of the popular vote at the National level.
Anyone thinking that Terry v. Handel in any way restricts Judge Malihi’s decisions or recommendations to current Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp would do well to actually read the transcript and understand what was being ruled on. Terry v Handel in no way directs the Georgia Secretary of State to put Mr. Obama’s name on the ballot without proof that he meets the qualifications under challenge by any registered Presidential elector in the state of Georgia.
If you hold a voter franchise and you choose to exercise it in a Presidential Election, you are a Presidential Elector. Period.
Judge Baxter, as so many Judges before him, refused to rule on the merits of the charge, that Mr. Obama was not vetted by the State and National Democratic Party and thus his claim to be compliant with the Constitutional requirement of natural-born citizen was not addressed. The Judge ruled on an aspect never raised in the original complaint. The Judge ruled on a clear bias and a puzzling lack of comprehension of what was at stake in his court: the installation of a usurper by a corrupt private artificial person known as the Democratic Party.
The Court: All right. I’m not going to be able to help you, Mr. Terry. So I can give you a final order later this afternoon, and you have rights to appeal this. And, you know, you probably need to get on it if you are going to appeal it, and we can have a transcript for you, but I’m not going to be able to rule in your favor on this case.
Mr. Terry: Could you explain why, your Honor?
The Court: No. I don’t think you have standing to bring this suit. I think that the Attorney General has argued the Law. I think he is correct. I think you are not a lawyer. You really don’t know what you are doing, and you will receive an order this afternoon.
Mr. Terry: All right. I will agree with that.
The Court: You have rights to appeal it. So anyway, that’s it.
It is clear that Mr. Terry never claimed to be a lawyer, what is not clear is that he does not need to be in order to challenge the Constitutional Eligibility of ANY candidate who seeks the Office of the Presidency. Mr. Terry goes on to warn the Judge exactly what will happen if a usurper is elected to the Office of the President by a mislead population of voters. It should be sufficient for a registered elector to ask that the right thing be done and have it done. After all, it has been made more than clear that the Democratic Party has no interests in protecting the voting franchise of any registered voter in the country. Raising a legitimate challenge with the National Political Parties without the support of the Elections Officer and the Courts amounts to knee jerk ridicule and courtroom semantics and antics that purposefully misdirect attention away from the real issue: is Mr. Obama a natural born citizen or not?
It is my belief that Mr. Terry was ill-served by a court which had contempt for a citizen unmindful of his place and thus impertinently asking for redress from what is supposed to be an objective branch of State Government. Had he been served by a lawyer, the outcome of this case would have been different. It is also my opinion that the majority of the judges and lawyers in this country are actively at war with the Constitutional Republic and the registered voters contrary to their oaths to the Constitution. It appears that they are seeking, as a group, to redefine the Constitution to suit a more global/corporate-friendly version that will allow a global citizen with no loyalty to this Nation or her People to be elected to the Office of the President for the purposes of diminishing the standing of the Nation as a sovereign entity in the growing Global Plutonomy.
An argument for this manipulation of the definition of natural-born citizen can be found in the article by J. Rebekka Susan Bonner: Who may be President? Constitutional Reinterpretation of Article II’s “Natural-born” Presidential Eligibility Clause. Abstract.
Although facially clear, the natural-born citizen provision of Article II’s presidential eligibility clause has never been definitively interpreted by the courts. This paper considers whether the concept of natural-born is a self-defining concept, or whether instead it is a concept that is subject to a variety of interpretive theories. It does so by examining the traditional interpretive approach adopted by Constitutional scholars for examining the intended meaning of Article II’s presidential eligibility requirements. Such an analysis finds that the traditional approach is inadequate, particularly in light of neglected aspects of English common law, the lack of congruency of the English legacy with the American political experiment, the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, and the history of congressional regulation in this area. The paper responds to these problems within existing traditions of natural-born interpretation by proposing a new approach that includes a recognition of Congress’s constitutional power to extend natural-born citizenship to classes of citizens beyond those born within the territorial boundaries of the United States. Discussion concludes with an examination of how application of the new interpretative approach would expand the number of American citizens who may be considered natural-born for purposes of presidential eligibility; how Congress might operationalize these new understandings; and why reconceptualization of the meaning of the citizenship clause is preferable to previous interpretations of Article II.
You are a Presidential elector if you hold a voter’s franchise granted to you by your State. That the election has two parts and is considered indirect as opposed to the direct elections of State Officials is irrelevant. It is considered an indirect election because the Nation is voting for Federal Officers and the voting results are a compilation of State vote results. There is no National voter franchise per Bush v Gore (2000). Thus, the Electoral College is the Federal component of the election for a President, while the popular vote remains the State component.
I am getting awfully tired of the nonsense that Mr. Obama is seeking to foist upon the citizens of the United States with his blatant contempt and disrespect for lawful challenges that he prove what he claims. It also looks as if, in addition to failing to meet the Constitutional criteria for natural-born citizen, Mr. Obama also clearly fails as a “Constitutional Law Professor.” It is very clear, by his actions and arguments, that he has no respect for the Constitution if it gets in the way of his political ambitions. As a National leader who is supposed to represent the best interests of the citizens of the United States, his inconstancy with respect to adherence to transparency and overall respect for the governed, and his adherence to self-serving interpretations of electoral mechanics, is troubling indeed.
As a Nation we deserve a President with un-conflicted natural allegiance to the People he/she serves at a national level, not one who relies on a buffer of lawyers and judges seeking to overturn the Constitutional Republic on a technicality.
Actually, the popular vote is assigned to Electors who submit their Electoral Votes. Voters are NOT Electors.
While all would agree that the Sec. of State has jurisdiction over voter registration, the applications for the candidates who appear on the state ballot is also handled by the Secretary of State.
It is not the ‘popular’ vote that elects a candidate, but Electoral votes which can be challenged after the date of the popular vote by two members of congress under Title 3 §15.
It is right and proper that a Secretary of State be moved by the voters to investigate the qualifications of any candidate who wishes to appear on the ballot. As the Certificates of Ascertainment do not have to be submitted until after the popular election, one must assume that their role prior to candidates applying to the state ballot is insignificant if lacking.
Fortunately, Georgia law has the role of the Secretary of State as arbitar of ballot qualifications more than merely discretionary. Thus, Secretary of State Kemp is to be lauded for his response to the citizens in their petition that the law be properly applied to Obama’s eligibility to be on the ballot.
As for Black’s Law, the author is correct. Natural Born Citizen is also improperly defined in the Heritage Foundation’s compilation of articles on the Constitution (Ed Meese, ed). Assoc. Justice Joseph Story accurately described a natural born citizen in his Commentaries, §1473 (1833).
This has all the makings of which came first, the chicken or the egg? The sequence of events gives an indication as to what is happening.
The interface between Federal rights and duties and State rights and duties have long been argued over with respect to where one begins and the other terminates and are somewhat in flux. Because there is a Federal/State interface between the separate Governments there is, by necessity, a Federal process and a separate State Process in a Presidential Election and thus the creation of an indirect election with respect to the popular vote. There is no National voter franchise. It has been suggested by some that the Electoral College was designed to delibertly throw the choice of a President/Vice President directly into Congress and to allow that body to then select the candidates it would choose. Thankfully, this is not a reality.
It sounds as if our differing viewpoints on who can claim to be an elector is a matter of perspective and that is quite fair. You claim that the popular vote is ‘assigned’ to the electors of a State party and I maintain that the Electors to the Electoral College are ‘awarded’ to the candidate with the most votes in a winner take all situation (48 out of 50 states). .However, by common definition and the Constitution, as a registered voter, I AM an elector and thus I do have standing to challenge any candidate who makes a claim I do not believe he/she can back up. I am an elector in both direct elections and indirect elections. Without the votes of individual state voters, the elections do not take place. The Electoral College exists in a symbiotic relationship with the State popular vote because this country was designed to have two parallel systems of Government (Federal and State). Ultimately, the courts will split the fine hairs and decide which of us has the correct interpretation of these processes as it has direct bearing on vetting a Presidential Candidate’s Constitutional qualifications and who gets to file that challenge and who is being challenged. Per Ritter’s argument, no one holding a State voter franchise has the right to question the qualifications of the candidate running for President because he maintains, as you do, that the employees of a private corporation elect the President without direction from the popular vote. People can vote Party over country. However, to do so is to vote without ethics, or understanding that the Party’s goals and the citizen’s vested best interests are not one in the same.
This exposes a disconnect between the reality of the goals of the National Parties and the expectations of the Public. In every respect, this debate is one well worth having and absolutely relevant to current circumstances. It goes to the fundamental character of our Nation.
I do thank you for the reference to Assoc. Justice Joseph Story. I will be investigating that directly.
IF we separated the electoral college from the voters, it would not be democratic. Giving polical parties alone the power to present candidates who cannot be questions as to thier qualifications is nothing more than morxist insults and communist leanings. Its insane to presume that the electoral college vote has no relevance to the popular vote, and BHO’s attempt to weasle out of the truth is akin to treason against the Constitution itself.
I’m over my head here. You guys must all be lawyers. It’s fascinating to read though. You say that ‘Giving political parties alone the power to present candidates who cannot be questioned (sic) as to their qualifications is nothing more than marxist insults and communist leanings.’ but, it’s worse – it is acquiescence to oligarchic rule – it is the acceptance of tyranny. So it seems to me.
Roger Calero, a citizen of Nicaragua, was the Socialist Workers Party (SWP) candidate for President in 2004 and 2008. Many states kept his name off the ballot due to his ineligibility. The SWP had to place another person’s name on the ballot in those states. Why should the states treat Barack Obama and the Democratic Party any different than they did Roger Calero and the SWP?
In 1968, Eldridge Cleaver ran for President. He was nominated by the Peace and Freedom Party (PFP). Both California and Utah refused to place his name on the ballot because he did not meet the eligibility requirements. He was not yet 35 years old. Several other states did place his name on the ballot. When the party’s nominated candidate is determined to not be eligible to be President, the states remove their name from the ballot. They leave the name of the political party on the ballot and the voters can vote for the party, in effect voting for the electors chosen by the party.
I have always thought that the claim that tax paying, voting, American Citizens, do not have “standing” to know if their employee the POTUS is eligible is absurd on the face of it.
We have an absolute right to know if our President is an impostor who is committing identity fraud.
The very claim defies commonsense.
This change gives every eligible voter in the State of GA the right to challenge BHO’s eligibility, furthermore, the Sect of State “shall” turn the complaints over to the OSAH, no option there, its a ministerial duty, not a case where the Sect has any discression.
So, yes, the 3 cases filed by private voters must go through the administrative hearing, then the Sect of State must make a final determination.
Im disappointed that folks use out of date code to argue this issue. The Georgia Legislature established this as law, so if Obama is eligible to be POTUS, its time to step up to the plate and prove it instead of wiggle out of the hot seat with technicalities like standing and jurisdiction. This is his chance to kill the entire birther movement, permanently, but he didnt show.
Where’s the integrity of our military leaders? They’re the ones taking orders from a fraud, and will be held accountable in a civilian court, or a war crimes tribunal. Just as they’ll be committing treason as soon as they touch an American in a threatening way. This is the ultimate terrorist act, using the US military to assault Americans, in America. What makes this NOT domestic terrorism? Osama bin Laden didn’t do this much damage to our liberty and freedoms, it comes from an enemy within.
As one who is NOT authorized to be in any p;lace in which,in time of war, the conduct of the war is engaged in,Obama IS a SPY under the UCMJ.
Obama stands accused of Crimes against Humanity at the Hague.
Obama stands accused of Election Fraud.
EVERY time someone calls Obama “President” they are doing a grave disservice to America.
Having vision problems. Please excuse my typos.

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