Source: http://www.thrivemovement.com/knowledge-power-personal-accountability.blog
Timestamp: 2019-04-23 04:04:36+00:00

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When people are conducting covert and destructive acts, they usually do their best to cover their tracks, to leave no evidence that would prove their intention and guilt. When those same people own the media, it makes it especially challenging to find factual evidence to prove what is really true.
We initially posted this blog about the U.S. allegedly being a corporation as an in-process document, peppered with questions and blanks. We specifically asked for input from our network to gain access to different perspectives from which to prove or disprove the hypothesis. And boy did we get it!
The response has been huge and extremely valuable. We will be sorting through the data, sites and insights for some time to come, but we want to share some of the most compelling input, especially that which challenges some of our suggested scenarios, to encourage an open think tank, where together we can really get to the truth.
We are not convinced that the U.S. is or is not a corporation. We do know that some events in the timeline we constructed are inaccurate, and others hold up. We also know that a lack of evidence doesn’t disprove a claim. But without evidence all we have is a speculation — no matter how reasonable or compelling.
Clearly, as we will be discussing in our ThriveTogether Event, people like Cal Washington are getting very real and powerful results operating from the basis that some countries are indeed corporations. High level officials are resigning in response to his calls for personal accountability based on this premise. So what is it they are responding to?
What can we prove? One of the people who helped critique the accuracy of our blog is Larry Becraft, a renowned attorney in the area of taxation. We have included some of his comments below the blog, and used strikethrough to highlight where we have eliminated apparently inaccurate information. We continue to invite your evidence-based input. So here is Knowledge is Power 2.0!
Regarding the Organic Act of 1871, attorney Becraft offers a compelling claim that there is nothing in the Act that establishes a corporation for the all the states of America, only for the jurisdiction of the Washington, D.C.
There is a history regarding the formation of Washington, D.C. The Constitution specifically provides for the formation of a district, 10 miles square, to be the seat of the federal government; see Art. 1, § 8, cl. 17. When the Constitution was ratified, the defacto seat of that government was in Philadelphia. The Residence Act of 1790 (1 Stat. 130, July 16, 1790), started the process of establishing the District of Columbia; in the interim, the government continued to meet in Philadelphia. On December 19, 1791, Maryland adopted “An Act concerning the territory of Columbia, and the City of Washington,” which ceded lands and jurisdiction for the Maryland part of the District. President Washington played a critical role in the selection of the actual site of the District, as well as laying out the plans for the city. Finally, on February 27, 1801, 2 Stat. 103, Congress adopted an act concerning the District, and created two counties, Washington County on the Maryland side, and Alexandria County on the Virginia side. See amendments, 2 Stat. 115, and 2 Stat. 193. On May 1, 1802, the then existing Board of Commissioners for the District was abolished, replaced with a superintendent under the control of the President; see 2 Stat. 175. On May 3, 1802, Congress adopted an act to incorporate the city of Washington, in the District; see 2 Stat. 195, and amendments at 2 Stat. 254 and 422. For some of the other acts regarding the District, see 3 Stat. 691, 4 Stat. 294, and 4 Stat. 517.
This was the form of government for the District until February 21, 1871. On this date, Congress adopted a new act for the government of the District; see 16 Stat. 419-429. As seen by a simple review of this act, it did not create a government for anything but the District of Columbia, and it certainly did not purport to be a government for “federal” citizens living in the States. Also posted here are the first couple of pages from the 1873 Revised Statutes for the District of Columbia.
Scandal was the reason that this form of government for the District lasted only a mere 7 years. After the act of February 21, 1871, public officials of the District incurred tremendous debts for the District, eventually requiring Congress to in essence step in and take over that government. See 18 Stat. (Part 3) 116, ch. 337, for repeal of 1871 act. An act of June 11, 1878, 20 Stat. 102, provided “a permanent form of government for the District of Columbia.” Much later, the District of Columbia Home Rule Act, Public Law 93-198, 87 Stat. 777, approved December 24, 1973, created the government for the District which exists today.
Those who assert some wild theory about Washington, D.C. are utterly wrong. They have invented a “different version” of history without bothering to check out the facts.
So was this “United States” corporation used, nonetheless, as a front for operating an entity claiming power outside the U.S. Constitution through Uniform Commercial Codes (UCC) as many claim? Larry says no, the UCC has just been a matter of convenience for doing commerce and practicing law across state boundaries.
Our blog referred to the Emergency Banking Act of 1933, HJR 192, as “allegedly” pledging the lives and labors of American citizens to repay the debt of the bankruptcy of the United States.
For years, some have been contending that there was a bankruptcy of the United States in 1933, and proponents of this argument claim that such arises from the adoption by Congress of HJR 192, a joint resolution, on June 5, 1933. That resolution prohibited paying gold denominated debts with gold. It did not establish or relate to any bankruptcy of the United States. I have asked promoters of this argument to provide any documentation to support this argument and they have none. It is a fabricated argument.
HJR 192 has not been in effect since 1977. Below, I provide a part of my money issue brief posted on my site that addresses HJR 192. The cases demonstrate that the courts acknowledge that HJR 192 is no longer in effect.
The Joint Resolution of June 5, 1933, has no significance today because it has been effectively repealed; see 91 Stat. 1229. For cases explaining the end of HJR 192’s application in 1977, and the validity of gold clause contracts today, see Fay Corp. v. BAT Holdings I, Inc., 646 F. Supp. 946 (W.D.Wash. 1986), affirmed at Fay Corp. v. Frederick & Nelson Seattle, Inc., 896 F.2d 1227 (9th Cir. 1990), Wells Fargo Bank v. Bank of America, 32 Cal.App.4th 424, 38 Cal.Rptr.2d 521 (1995); Trostel v. American Life & Casualty Insurance Company, 133 F.3d 679 (8th Cir. 1998); Nebel, Inc. v. Mid-City National Bank, 329 Ill. App.3d 957, 769 N.E.2d 45 (2002); and 216 Jamaica Ave. v. S & R Playhouse Realty Co., 540 F.3d 433 (6th Cir. 2008).
The most blatant falsehood by which we got fooled concerns the often cited congressional address by Congressman James Traficant in 1993. Becraft personally knew Traficant quite well before his death.
This contention first appeared in the mid-90s and when I heard about it, I sought to confirm its validity. The results of my investigation were posted on my website in 1997. I have posted the below there. I even discussed this contention with Jim most recently as last summer when we were at a speaking event in Tampa and he stated that the story about what he said in March, 1993 is false. Jim died last Sept.
I attach the correct page of the Congressional Record that is posted on the Net. As you can plainly see, that which is claimed to have been a statement by Jim is false, and utterly so.
I have heard people discuss statements by “congressman” Traficant allegedly made back in 1993 where he stated in the Congressional Record that the US was bankrupt and this bankruptcy happened back in 1933. This statement has been used to support UCC arguments about the bankruptcy of the United States.
You’ll notice that it claims to be from the Congressional Record of March 17, 1993, page H-1303, and a speech from Rep. James Traficant (D-Oh). It starts with a double quote mark and it ends much later with another double quote mark.
Traficant’s own words run from “Mr. Speaker …” to “… our demise” and that’s the only portion from him or from the Congressional Record.
Traficant was arguing against deficit spending, and everything else in the article (starting from the words “It is an established fact …”) is fake. Traficant never said them.
In fact, if Traficant thought that the Banking Emergency Act of 1933 was Public Law 89-719, we’d all have reason to doubt his soundness of mind, because the Public Law number is clearly decades after 1933 — in fact it is the number of the Federal Tax Lien Act of 1966. Ditto for the pretended title and description of HJR 192 (of 1933). All of that, including the references to canon law and maritime insurance, is fakery, falsely attributed to Traficant.
The actual page from the Congressional Record is here. Please excuse the copy quality of this PDF file as it was obtained from microfiche. This page proves that those who allege that Traficant made this statement are not telling the truth.
That the 1913 Federal Reserve Act was effective back to 1870, many years before that act was adopted.
This argument had been made for too many years and is nothing but a misconstruction of the various provisions of the fed Debt Collection Procedures Act. Read the below.
Many contend that the above quote, a part of the Federal Debt Collection Procedures Act, means “the United States is a corporation.” I must state that this is an erroneous construction of this particular law.
The FDCPA simply regulates the collection activities of all federal agencies, departments, commissions, boards and instrumentalities, including the above federal corporations. Rather than repeatedly state in this 30+ page act that all “federal agencies, departments, commissions, boards and instrumentalities, including federal corporations” shall do certain things, all these entities are, for purposes of this particular act, encompassed within the words, “United States.” Wherever the words “United States” appears in this law regulating these federal collection activities, it means all these various entities, including “Federal corporations”.
“But where did the authority come from to create the constitutions?” we asked.
He traced it back to the founding of the colonies, which later became the states, which later became the nation. He cited King George of England as having authority over the colonies.
“And where did he get that authority,” we asked, given that was the very authority Americans were risking their lives to cast off.
He traced it back to the Norman conquest of England and the key Battle of Hastings in 1066.
Exactly. We have to deal with tyranny until it’s gone. But we don’t have to settle for begging for crumbs of justice within an intrinsically coercive system. Whether someone claims to rule over us because of force, money, an agreement to which we were not a part, majority rule, tradition, or a supposed decree from their version of a creator…in our view NOTHING justifies anyone initiating force over others if they are doing no harm. Any unsubstantiated claim to power must be exposed and our legitimate natural sovereignty reclaimed.
Mis- or disinformation, whether intentional or inadvertent, undermines the coherence of the quest for truth and justice, so we are always trying to be relentless in exposing false information. We will continue to do so in relation to the subject of countries as corporations, while shouting at the top of our voices that even the notion of a “nation state” was an artificial power grab by a few that has led, as always, to tyranny and impoverishment at home and to war abroad.
Thank you for the inspiration and empowerment that this vast global Thrive network represents, and for your willingness to join us in our ongoing quest for truth and justice.

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