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Timestamp: 2019-04-23 02:57:11+00:00

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« Burns Chronicles No 30 – Officer? What Officer?
In a related article, “Burns Chronicles No 30 – Officer? What Officer?“, I addressed a common element to the Indictments from Oregon and Nevada. You may also want to refer back to that article to see how the federal government has, over the years, expanded its authority (jurisdiction) well beyond what the Constitution granted to that government. The article covered the extent of the Oregon Indictment, but only the common charge of violation of 18 US Code § 372. The Nevada Indictment goes a bit further. It charges the accused with violation of 18 US Code § 371 and endeavors to provide some substance to the charge, which was not done in Oregon.
So, what does US Code § 371 say?
It is interesting that this really overlaps 18 US Code § 372, the statute addressed in the previous article in that it says, “to commit any offense against the United States”. Now, § 372 is an offense against the United States, so why is there a charge that is already incorporated in another charge?
My guess is that it is what I refer to as a “legal shotgun”. In the Branch Davidian trial, Sarah Bain explained there were so many charges against the Davidians that the jury felt they had to find the Davidians guilty of something. So they took the charge with the lowest punishment, and found them guilty of that Count. So, if you throw enough peanut butter at a wall, some of it will stick. Not a very good concept of justice, but the government knows how human nature works. You could call it a “chicanery conviction”.
(b) Enhanced Penalty. – Whoever, in the commission of any acts described in subsection (a), uses a deadly or dangerous weapon (including a weapon intended to cause death or danger but that fails to do so by reason of a defective component) or inflicts bodily injury, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
Then, we refer back to § 111 and find that what falls into this characterization of kill or attempt to kill, some lesser acts. Those lesser acts, “forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or interferes with any person”, should be of serious concern to all Americans.
There is a saying from the past, “The King can do no wrong!” And, § 1114 makes clear that if you find someone in government doing something wrong, and you attempt to stop them, you are guilty of a crime. Then, by reference (guilt by association), you are associated with killers.
Now, let’s jump back to § 371. When we do this, we can pull in anyone who you have even discussed your objection to some government person’s action, because, “If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States”, then you are an accomplice. So, those who might believe that the King has done wrong, well, you have just become a criminal. It does not even contemplate whether the “government employee” was doing something wrong, or you were fully within the right.
(B) threatens to assault, kidnap, or murder, a United States official, a United States judge, a Federal law enforcement officer, or an official whose killing would be a crime under such section, with intent to impede, intimidate, or interfere with such official, judge, or law enforcement officer while engaged in the performance of official duties, or with intent to retaliate against such official, judge, or law enforcement officer on account of the performance of official duties, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).
So, here we see the use of “official duties”, without regard to the lawfulness of those duties. If it is not private duties, you are snared in the trap.
Now, let’s see if we have this right. We do have a Second Amendment that allows us to “keep and bear Arms”. Then, of course, Nevada is an “open carry” state, so the right to carry weapons is protected under the State laws, as well.
It would seem the first necessity in evaluating this from a criminal standpoint would be to determine if the carrying or possession of the weapons was a factor in the crime, if there truly was a crime, or if it was simply an exercise of rights.
You will note that the statute defines brandish in such a way that it excludes any other form of possession. However, if we look at the English definition of brandish, we find that it does separate the display of the firearm from mere possession, associating the word with how it was displayed.
brandish. v.t. 1. to shake or wave (as a weapon) menacingly. 2. to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner.
So, the government, by a form of verbicide, has made a common English word, by redefining it to an all-inclusive word, with the sole exception of the qualifier, “in order to intimidate that person.” Darn, that qualifier is almost lost at the end of the statute.
Now, probably the prime example that we can expect the government to take would be the case of Eric Parker. Eric Parker is the object of a well known photograph of a man on the Highway Overpass with his rifle sticking through the wall of the overpass. They will suggest that he was “brandishing” his rifle, and they will prove it with pictures. However, those “officers and employees” down in the Wash could not have even seen that he was holding a rifle, so how the heck could he have been “intimidating” them? So, what Parker did could, in no way, be considered brandishing. Instead, he was there to protect those in the Wash, should the government “officers and employees” escalate beyond the violence and intimidation that they had demonstrated, long before the Unrustling at the Wash. Surely, we retain the right to protect ourselves and others from enemies, both foreign and domestic. And, equally surely, absent actually brandishing the weapon in close proximity, where the “officers and employees” could readily see, and readily understand that the weapon was there to intimidate them, such as described by Webster’s, then there can be no merit to the application of this enhancement statute.
Now, here is a rather interesting pellet in the legal shotgun, as it presumes something that did not happen.
First, let’s deal with “commits or threatens physical violence“. The only insinuation of violence was addressed when we looked at 18 US Code § 924(c). So, that leaves us with “robbery” or “extortion”, both of which are defined in the statute. And, since nothing was stolen, that leaves us with “extortion”. However, extortion requires the “use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear“. And, so far, we have seen no demonstration of either.
So, it appears that until the “commerce” is at a point wherein it will exit the State, it is not yet in interstate commerce, and won’t be until it reaches that point.
Now, as explained in “The Bundy Affair #10 – Again?“, the cattle could not leave the state before at least one more “point” was necessary before the “commerce” could leave the State, as defined in the statute. The Brand and Health Inspections had not been performed, and it would have been illegal for the cattle to leave the State, absent a stop at another “point” to inspect and obtain such certifications.
I’ll be darned if they don’t say the same thing. Perhaps there is some undecipherable distinction between the two, but for the life of me, I really can’t figure it out. What I can figure out is that if you, in any way, maybe even loaning somebody some money, aid and abet, or by loaning, participate in both inducement and procurement, or perhaps, even give some words of encouragement, you may be found to have willfully caused, the act — then you are as guilty as the “guy that pulled the trigger”.
What we are seeing in a Nevada Courtroom is a far more heinous “political crime”, God forbid that Free Americans have any right to question the actions of the government.
You have to remember that this all started in Bunkerville, Nevada over failure to pay grazing fees. If you go to the Taylor Grazing Act, which is where the grazing fees come from, the original intent was for the majority of the fees to be paid back to the State, (See Nevada Revised Statutes) and then to the County and then to the rancher to improve water sources, which support both livestock and wildlife, maintain roads, and improve the range land in some other way. including fire, which has been used for centuries to create new growth and remove brush. That part is important to the Hammond situation and those fires that accidentally went over their boundaries. It was proven that the range improved after the fire. I think you will find that, like every other penny that goes to Washington to be in a special fund, like the Social Security Trust Fund, eventually makes its way to the General Fund (slush fund) and it gets spent on something else that has nothing to do with why it was collected. Cliven Bundy tried to pay the grazing fees directly to Clark County, and they would not take the money. The other issue, is that this area was settled in the mid-1800’s long before Taylor Grazing, BLM, etc. in fact, this area was so remote, it used to be called Paiute County because neither Arizona, Utah or Arizona Territory was sure where any of the boundaries were until well into the 20th Century when Surveying improved regarding large tracts of raw land, Later, satellite imaging brought determining boundaries into the modern day. Most of Nevada is open range land without any fences at all, but eventually the State ran boundary fences along highways as a matter of safety because until the first gas crisis there was no speed limit in much of the State; it simply said “Resume Safe Speed”, but cows on the road were a hazard. At any rate, the Bundys were on that land running cattle long before the government decided to create a program to create income for themselves. And then you need to go back to the Constitution itself to realize that the government does not own the land, and neither does BLM. They are charges with MANAGING the lands for multiple uses on behalf of people of the united States. That’s right, they work FOR the people, not AGAINST them. As part of their management they determine what the range conditions are each year, and how many cattle can be on each parcel, which may be thousands of acres. That is basically their only real job, though they do oversee a program for volunteers who monitor sensitive areas for trash, defacing objects, or indian Petroglyphs, etc. But it is the volunteer public who do the work for free. They are not the Taylor Grazing Act and never were.
I agree with much of what you said, however, I do have to dispute what you have said about boundaries. As a Surveyor, I had to retrace an 1868 boundary between Colorado and New Mexico. By then, Utah, Arizona, and most of the western states had been surveyed under the sectionalized land system.
Sectionalized land is comprised of a six mile square parcel called a Township, and is further subdivided by markers set “on the mile at the half mile”. That means that the interior lines created a grid of 36 one mile square parcels, with additional markers at mid-point on each 1 mile line.
State boundaries were sometimes described using geographic features, most often rivers. Straight-line boundaries were described by degrees of latitude or longitude. Those lines had already been measured, as described above.
In 1866, a portion of Arizona and a portion of Utah were given to Nevada, expanding its original 1864 boundaries. No state entered the Union unless those surveys had been performed. Often, once the obtained territorial status, contracts were let for the Surveys.
In 1866, the United States, punishing both Utah and Arizona for having sided to some degree with the South, gave Nevada some additional land. Utah gave up a parallel strip along the eastern side of Nevada. Arizona (then part of New Mexico Territory) gave up a triangle that had for its north line, the north line of Clark County, on the east side, to the Colorado River, and on the west side, to the California border.
Surprisingly to most, the surveys back then were extremely accurate, and those boundaries, as established then, hold over current and more accurate methods of location of lines of latitude and longitude.
Finally, satellite imaging had nothing to do with accuracy. Global Positioning System (GPS), using satellites for trilateration, are capable of defining positions on the Earth to less than 1/8 of an inch. However, they are used simply to locate old, existing markers. They have no effect, whatsoever, on the lines once established.
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Thanks for the information, however in the late 1800’s my Grandparents lived in a town of St. Thomas that was eventually flooded by Lake Mead in the late 1930’s and all three States tried to get property taxes from the residents in the early years, and no one knew who to pay. Probably was settle in 1866 or soon after. At that time, Clark County went way north, but the miners in Searchlight (the biggest town in Clark County) complained about the long trip to Pioche to record claims, so Nevada cut Clark County in half creating Lincoln County. Searchlight expected to be named County Seat, but Union Pacific gave a section of ground for the original Las Vegas townsite, and we know the rest of that story. Ironically, I was recently doing some genealogical work on the family and found an account by my Mother of a group of surveyors who boarded at my grandparents house because the Gentry Hotel had closed. I had originally though they were surveying for the new Salt Lake highway, which eventually became I-15, but according to her journal they were looking for a route to take water to Los Angeles. I presume in an aqueduct. My Great-grandfather bought a ranch from Abraham Bundy and a lot of the early pioneers ran cattle on the same land, primarily in Arizona on and around the Virgin Mountains. There were no fences then or now. Brand marks determined ownership and the feed was there for all. I had an uncle who rode the range on a ranch that Cliven Bundy eventually bought out, and I had relatives in Bunkerville and all along the Virgin River.
I very interesting bit of history.
Thank you too, Gary. I did not realize that chunk of land added to Nevada was because they supported the Union. There weren’t really enough people in the entire State of Nevada to support anything. So I will give you another piece of that story. As I’m sure you know, the only reason Nevada was admitted in 1864 was because of mineral wealth. Primarily the gold and silver in the north around Virginia City. But just outside of Las Vegas is the Potosi Mine, which was lead. And of course you need lead to make bullets. But like much of Nevada, there was some silver in everything, including the lead and that made the ore too soft. Apparently, silver is not too particular about the company it keeps, geologically speaking. There is a Silver Reef mind in Southern Utah that was silver in sandstone.
I believe that it was more that New Mexico and Utah were sympathetic to the South.
Sharon, I would like u to read some history about My grear great grand father and his wife ella. Footprints on the Arizona strip–A harsh land and proud, Douglas (crocodile) Bundy Proud one!
My family obviously knew the Bundys in the 1800’s. My Great Grandfather James Ritchie McKnight, purchased the Beaver Dam Ranch (Arizona Strip just below the Virgin River Gorge) from Abraham Bundy, who was on his way to the Mormon Colonies in Mexico. My grandmother, LuLu May McKnight was born at Littlefield and she married Albert Henry Strasser who had lived downstream of Littlefield, at Big Bend. They were sealed in the St. George Temple in 1902. His brother George, lived in Mesquite, and their Father, Sebastian Strasser was married to Anna Elizabeth Frehner of Santa Clara, Utah. My grandparents eventually moved down the Virgin River to St. Thomas, where they lived until Lake Mead took the town. My Mother often told of the two day trip from St. Thomas to Beaver Dam, via Key West, Riverside and Bunkerville/Mesquite to visit friends and relatives. I’m sure they knew everyone they passed whether traveling in a horse and buggy or later in a Model T Ford. My oldest uncle, Llewellyn (Bill) rode the range on Gold Butte working for the people who lived at Pahkoon Springs until he finally came into Las Vegas. I wrote about the family connection to both Ammon and Cliven when i wrote to them in jail, because i felt it was a “safe subject”.
Now, is there a copy of “Footprints” on line?
No young lady not that I know of. But if you follow some footprints of our family, you will soon find out my G G Grand was Abraham Bundy. I had a relate bye the name of Sonny Mcknight, married to Ray Bundy of Alamo Nev. We laid Sonny to rest in the beaver dam. Ray is still alive and remarried. There is a relative in Desert Springs Az. exit after littlefield, North bound I-15, who was a Cox before being married. I do have a connection to her Via a brother Bruce Cox, who is an Attorney in Las Vegas, and claims we are related. I do not argue with an attorney or any one else in this part of the U.S. This is a safe subject. If you want a copy, I need some for my Grand Children, so Contact me by mail @ p.o.Box 491 Mesquite NV. 89024, and I will make a contact. I believe she wants arround $60.00 a copy, hard back. I will tell you my Father in law, was Poncho Floyd Sandberbg, and I would bet that your uncle Bill and Poncho rode with one another, or passed at one time. Poncho punched sheep and cattle for some of the old names south of St. George, this side of the little creek, seventh wonder of the world. One name comes to mind is Slim Warring, the Mathis Family. He (Poncho) herded sheep from Parashaunt to gold butte, to Cedar Mountain. We laid Poncho to rest in Washington Ut. His wife is still alive, and helping some one @ Dixie State U, put some writings together. I have a copy, but you could not buy it, nor borrow it. I believe the Footprints on the Az. strip could tie some things, and some familys togather. Bruce cox escorted me and my wife Barbara Sandberg Bundy, and My Granddaughter Macee Jade Bundy, her Mother is a Leavitt, they are in bunkerville. to lay Macee’s father (Douglas Brian Bundy) to rest on Mt.Trumbull Az. Send me a short letter, that way I will not forget you want a book. it is copyrighted.

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