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Timestamp: 2019-04-19 20:23:53+00:00

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Researched by Edna Cudmore - cudfox@hotmail.com also botspot@pei.eastlink.ca and others.
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This entry is being placed here by a group of individuals, many having never met, in the hope that opening this issue to the general public will result in additional relevant information. This is of importance to all persons interested in Prince Edward Island history as George Penman (Generations 2 and 3, Number 3) was, after George Hardy, one of the earliest settlers of Lot 13. Many Prince Edward Islanders and "those from away" are descended from George Penman but, as they are also descended from his daughters, the family is difficult to trace. Thus, by 1840, the Penman name had disappeared from PEI.
Over 20 individuals have contributed to this research. Some of them are: Karen Allan, Lynne Charles, Carolyn Collins, Edna Cudmore, Madeleine DeBlois, Dorothy Gladish, Diana Hemphill, David Hunter, Reginald MacAusland, J. Darrach Murray, Donna Phillips, Archibald Ramsay, Colin N. Ramsay, Mona Rhone, H. Jean Richardson, Bob Robblee, J. Robblee, Elizabeth Russon, Ann Smith, Paul Sutherland, Catherine Jean Smith and Jim Wylie.
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Mr. and Mrs. Penn (original name???), Suffolk, England.
Mr. and Mrs. Penn, married, Dunton, Bedford.
James Penman (1522-1597) married in 1554 to Unknown.
John Penman (1557-?) and Mrs. John Penman married 1577, Edinburgh, Scotland.
John Penman (1580-?) and Katherine Hamilton married 11 Jul 1605, Edinburgh, Scotland.
John Penman (1603-?) and Helen Samuel or Savenell (1605-?) married 25 Nov 1626, Dunfermline.
John Penman (1629-?) and Mrs. John, probably Bessie or Elizabeth Craig m. ?1652, Edinburgh.
1. GEORGE1 PENMAN was born Abt. 1664. He married JEAN MCKONIE. She was born Abt. 1664.
Aka: Jean McOnie, McKoune or McConnachie.
i. JOHN2 PENMAN, b. 1686.
ii. MARGARET PENMAN, b. Bef. 14 Jul 1686.
More About MARGARET PENMAN: Christening: 14 Jul 1686.
2. iii. GEORGE PENMAN, b. 1690, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland; d. 5 Oct 1739.
iv. JAMES PENMAN, b. 1693.
v. ELIZABETH PENMAN, b. 1695.
vi. JANNET PENMAN, b. 1698.
HELEN PENMAN, b. Abt. 1700; m. ARCHIBALD WILSON; b. 1701.
2. GEORGE2 PENMAN (GEORGE1) was born 1690 in Torryburn, Fife, Scotland, and died 2 Oct 1739. He married ISABEL PATERSONE 07 Aug 1713. She was born Abt. 1689 and died 1755.
More About ISABEL PATERSONE: Aka: Isabella Paterson.
3. i. GEORGE3 PENMAN, b. 14 May 1714, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland; d. 1804, Port Hill Farm, PEI.
ii. JAMES PENMAN, b. 21 Oct 1716, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland.
iii. ALEXANDER PENMAN, b. 30 Nov 1718, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland; d. 1725.
iv. ISOBEL PENMAN, b. 05 Feb 1721, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland; d. 1722.
v. JOHN PENMAN, b. 15 May 1723, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland; d. 1730.
vi. RICHARD PENMAN, b. 30 Jan 1726, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland.
4. vii. ROBERT PENMAN, b. 29 Nov 1728, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland.
5. viii. DAVID PENMAN, b. 01 Jun 1731, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland; d. 1824, Tryon, PEI.
ix. WILLIAM PENMAN, b. 06 May 1734, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland; d. 1747.
3. GEORGE3 PENMAN (GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born 14 May 1714 in Torryburn, Fife, Scotland, and died 1804 at Port Hill Farm, PEI. He married (1) CHRISTIAN HUNTER 07 Dec 1733 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. He married (2) MARY MARGARET EDGAR 06 Jan 1751 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. She died Bef. 1770. He married (3) MARY COLE.
Military service: 1758, Siege of Louisburg. & elsewhere as "Payroll Master" or "Paymaster."
Occupation: 1758, "Payroll Master" with Lord Rollo on landing in PEI.
Note: The above appears logical but, while we know that a George Penman served in this quasi-military capacity with Rollo, we cannot positively determine that he is the same George Penman that settled in Lot 13 and died there in 1804. As George Penman’s name has not been found on military rolls, one source suggests that, during this period, the civilian firm "Couts & Co" was providing pay services to the British Army. Whether George was an employee of this firm warrants further investigation. Also, being closely associated with Rollo, it is unlikely that George Penman remained with the small garrison in Charlottetown after 1758 but departed to continue in Rollo’s service.
GEORGE4 PENMAN, b. 1745, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland.
Note: While not substantiated, the above marriage appears to be correct, as there is other evidence of association between the Penmans and the Hunters. Also, variations of the name "Christian" appear in later generations of Penman children. More important – could George Penman (b. 1745), not his father, the Payroll Master, have been the Lot 13 settler?
6. ii. NANCY4 PENMAN, b. 1768, New England; d. 02 Aug 1837.
7. iii. ELIZABETH PENMAN, b. Abt. 1769; d. 1849, North Bedeque, PEI.
8. iv. MARGARET PENMAN, b. Abt. 1771.
9. v. CHRISTIANA PENMAN, b. Abt. 1773; d. 18 Oct 1811.
10. vi. JANE PENMAN, b. Abt. 1776; m. JAMES TOWNSEND.
Note: As neither the death date of Mary Edgar or the marriage date of George Penman and Mary Cole are known, it is impossible to identify whether a given daughter’s mother was Mary Edgar or Mary Cole.
SEE THE DESCENDANTS OF MARY COLE FROM HER FIRST MARRIAGE AT THE END OF THIS ENTRY.
4. ROBERT3 PENMAN (GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born 29 Nov 1728 in Torryburn, Fife, Scotland. He married JANET THOMSON 28 Feb 1752 in Fife, Scotland, daughter of THOMAS THOMSON and JANET SPROUT. She was born 04 Jul 1731 in Tulliallan, Perth, Scotland.
i. GEORGE4 PENMAN, b. 18 Apr 1753.
Note: This George Penman has been absolutely ruled out as the Lot 13 settler. He did not immigrate to North America.
5. DAVID3 PENMAN (GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born 01 Jun 1731 in Torryburn, Fife, Scotland, and died 1824 in Tryon, PEI. He married JEAN BROWN 04 May 1755 in Walsto, Lanark, Scotland.
Note: This marriage is open to question and is substantiated only by the fact that the groom’s date of birth appears to match that of David Penman.
Residence: 30 Mar 1805, Tryon River Settlement.
11. i. JANE4 PENMAN, b. 1783; d. 28 Nov 1864, Charlottetown, PEI.
iii. ELIZABETH PENMAN, d. 1791 or 1795.
More About ELIZABETH PENMAN: Aka: "Betsy."
6. NANCY4 PENMAN (GEORGE3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born 1768 in New England, and died 02 Aug 1837. She married DONALD MONTGOMERY 14 Mar 1788 in Princetown, PEI. He was born 1760 in Argyleshire, Scotland, and died 1845.
Children: Seventeen, youngest born about1816.
Elected: To Provincial Assembly, served 35 years.
Possibility: May have lived at Port Hill at some point.
Residence: Fox Point, Malpeque, PEI.
Island Register, "Descendants of James Woodside and Elizabeth Wilson." Archibald Woodside (m. Barbara Montgomery) is at Generation 3, number 8 and his brother William Woodside (m. Helen Montgomery) is at Generation 3, number 9.
7. ELIZABETH4 PENMAN (GEORGE3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born Abt. 1769, and died 1849 in North Bedeque, PEI. She married DAVID MURRAY 1789. He was born 1766 in Scotland, and died in 1853 at Donald Montgomery’s home in New London, PEI.
More About ELIZABETH PENMAN: Aka: "Betty."
i. GEORGE P.5 MURRAY, b. 1790, North Bedeque, PEI; d. Wisconsin, USA; m. (1) Bef. 1826, MARY MACFARLANE; b. 1792; d. 1826; m. (2) 1830, SUSANNAH ROBBLEE, b. 1811; m. (3) 1832, MARGARET (MONTGOMERY) RAMSAY; b. Malpeque, PEI.
This is her 2nd Marriage: Her 1st marriage was to GEORGE MONTGOMERY, son of DONALD MONTGOMERY and NANCY PENMAN.
13. ii. JANE MURRAY, b. Abt. 1795, North Bedeque, PEI; d. Aft. 1853.
iii. MARGARET MURRAY, b. 14 Aug 1795, North Bedeque, PEI; m. HUGH MACARTHUR.
iv. WILLIAM MURRAY, b. Abt. 1797, North Bedeque, PEI; d. 1872, North Bedeque, PEI; m. 1827, ANN MONTGOMERY, b. 11 Mar 1803; d. 1884.
v. DAVID MURRAY, b. 1798, North Bedeque, PEI; d. 1868, Bedeque, PEI; m. 1831, ELIZABETH RIX.
14. vi. MARY MURRAY, b. 1801, North Bedeque, PEI; d. 1867.
BENJAMIN MURRAY, b. Abt. 1803, North Bedeque, PEI; m. (1) JANE MONTGOMERY; b. 02 Jul 1812; m. (2) ELIZABETH (MOORE) ROBINSON, 2 Oct 1859, widow of JOHN ROBINSON and daughter of Dr. DAVID & ELIZABETH (ESSEX) MOORE of North River, PEI. She was born Abt.1800 and died 16 Dec. 1879.
More About ELIZABETH ROBINSON: Burial: St. John's Anglican Church, Milton, PEI.
JAMES MURRAY, b. 1805, North Bedeque, PEI; d. 28 Oct 1850, North Bedeque, PEI; m. (1) 1836, MARY HOOPER; b. 1807; daughter of THOMAS and ELIZABETH (COLE) HOOPER. Mary died 1 Jan 1846 and (2) ZILLA Unknown b Abt. 1826 and d. 12 Oct 1883.
ix. ARCHIBALD MURRAY, b. Abt. 1806, North Bedeque, PEI; m. 1844 JANET STAFFORD.
15. x. ALEXANDER MURRAY, b. Abt. 1808, North Bedeque, PEI.
16. xi. ANN MURRAY, b. 1809, North Bedeque, PEI; d. 1858.
xii. ELIZABETH MURRAY, b. 1809, North Bedeque, PEI; d. 1864, North Bedeque, PEI; m. HUGH MONTGOMERY, 1833; b. 1803, Bedeque, PEI; d. 1873.
More About ELIZABETH MURRAY: Ann's twin.
8. MARGARET4 PENMAN (GEORGE3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born Abt. 1771. She married JOHN RAMSAY, May 1795, in Lot 13, PEI, son of DONALD RAMSAY and MARY MACMILLAN.
More About JOHN RAMSAY, Aka: "Justice John."
9. CHRISTIANA4 PENMAN (GEORGE3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born Abt. 1773, and died 18 Oct 1811. She married HUGH MONTGOMERY 1798. He was born 1765, and died Bef. 1832.
Residence: Richmond Bay (now Port Hill), PEI.
i. ANN MONTGOMERY, d. Dec 1824, New London, PEI.
ii. ELLEN MONTGOMERY, b. Abt. 1799.
iii. DONALD MONTGOMERY, b. Nov 1805.
Note: Further record of this Montgomery family is unnecessary. See Island Register, "Descendants of Hugh Montgomery and Mary Boes," Generation 3, Number 5.
10. JANE4 PENMAN (GEORGE3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born Abt. 1776 and died 21Jul 1852 at Park Corner, PEI. She married JAMES TOWNSEND (1765 – 1827), of Park Corner, PEI, Bef.. 1814.
Children of JAMES TOWNSEND and JANE PENMAN: None.
Burial: Geddie Memorial Cemetery (Stone 13).
11. JANE4 PENMAN (DAVID3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born 1783, and died 28 Nov 1864 in Charlottetown, PEI. She married JOSEPH ROBBLEE 22 Aug 1802 in PEI. He was born Abt. 1778 in Tryon, PEI, and died Aft. 25 Apr 1828 in Tryon, PEI.
Children: 6 sons & 2 daughters, including Susannah and David.
i. SUSANNAH5 ROBBLEE, b. 1811; m. GEORGE P MURRAY, 1830; b. 1790, North Bedeque, PEI; d. Wisconsin, USA.
12. MARTHA4 PENMAN (DAVID3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1). She married JOHN LAING.
13. JANE5 MURRAY (ELIZABETH4 PENMAN, GEORGE3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born Abt. 1795 in North Bedeque, PEI, and died Aft. 1853. She married DONALD CAMPBELL 13 Mar 1812 in St. Eleanors, PEI.
i. JOHN6 CAMPBELL, b. 1819; m. ANN RIX, 24 Aug 1842, North Bedeque, PEI.
ii. MARGARET CAMPBELL, b. 1820; m. EDWARD MONTGOMERY; b. 14 Jan 1810.
iii. GEORGE CAMPBELL, b. 1824.
14. MARY5 MURRAY (ELIZABETH4 PENMAN, GEORGE3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born 1801 in North Bedeque, PEI, and died 1867. In 1819, she married BENJAMIN RIX, son of SAMUEL RIX and LYDIA WRIGHT. BENJAMIN was born 1794, and died 1862.
i. ANN6 RIX, m. JOHN CAMPBELL, 24 Aug 1842, North Bedeque, PEI; b. 1819.
15. ALEXANDER5 MURRAY (ELIZABETH4 PENMAN, GEORGE3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born Abt. 1808 in North Bedeque, PEI and died 14 Apr 1849. He married HELEN WOODSIDE 1840, daughter of ARCHIBALD WOODSIDE and BARBARA MONTGOMERY. She was born 15 Jul 1815, and died 23 Oct 1877.
More About HELEN WOODSIDE: Aka: "Ellen."
Burial: Malpeque Peoples Cemetery, Malpeque, PEI (Stone 592).
ARCHIBALD6 MURRAY, b. Abt. 1840, m. SUSANNAH CHANDLER.
MARGARET MURRAY, b. Abt, 1842.
ELIZABETH ANN MURRAY (Aka: ELIZA).
16. ANN5 MURRAY (ELIZABETH4 PENMAN, GEORGE3, GEORGE2, GEORGE1) was born 1809 in North Bedeque, PEI, and died 1858. She married DONALD MONTGOMERY 1835, son of DONALD MONTGOMERY and NANCY PENMAN. He was born 31 Jul 1807 in Princetown (now Malpeque), PEI, and died 31 Jul 1893.
More About ANN MURRAY: Elizabeth's twin.
Elected: 1838, Provincial Assembly and Council until 1874. Speaker of the House. Then Senator.
He married (2) LOUISA GALL 02 May 1861.
Possibility: Birth date may be 08 Jan 1808, as stated in Bible at Montgomery Museum, Park Corner, PEI.
Note: Further record of this Montgomery family is unnecessary. See Island Register, "Descendants of Hugh Montgomery and Mary Boes," Generation 4, Number 13. Additional information on the United Empire Loyalist Murray family may be found in History of the Murrays, Bedeque, PEI, by Rev. H. Arthur Murray.
1. MARY1 COLE. She married (1) UNKNOWN COLE. She married (2) GEORGE PENMAN Bef. 1773, son of GEORGE PENMAN and ISABEL PATERSONE.
2. i. BENJAMIN2 COLE, b. Abt. 1762; d. Jan 1825, Lower Bedeque, PEI.
iii. CHRISTIANA PENMAN, b. Abt. 1773; d. 1811; m. HUGH MONTGOMERY.
JANE2 PENMAN, b. Abt. 1776; m. JAMES TOWNSEND.
Note: Jane and Christina’s families have been covered in the main Penman file above.
2. BENJAMIN2 COLE (MARY1) was born Abt. 1762, and died Jan 1825 in Lower Bedeque, PEI. He married ISABELLA ROBINS 13 Oct 1787 in Richmond Bay (now Port Hill), PEI, daughter of RICHARD ROBINS. She was born 1768 in Perth, Amboy, New Jersey, and died 27 Aug 1855 in Lower Bedeque, PEI.
4. i. ELIZABETH3 COLE, b. 1788; d. 10 Jun 1866.
ii. CHRISTIANA COLE, b. 1796; d. 1869; m. NATHANIAL WRIGHT; b. Bedeque, PEI.
5. iii. JAMES COLE, b. 22 Apr 1792; d. 22 Feb 1873.
iv. ANN COLE, b. 09 May 1794; d. 02 Dec 1866; m. JOHN BAKER.
More About ANN COLE: Children: Twelve.
v. SARAH COLE, b. 1798; d. 30 Jun 1850; m. DONALD MONTGOMERY; b. 1794.
Children: Two sons and three daughters.
vi. MARY COLE, b. Abt. 1798.
vii. ISABELLA COLE, b. 1800; d. 20 Apr 1868; m. WILLIAM WRIGHT.
More About ISABELLA COLE: Children: Ten.
viii. BENJAMIN COLE, b. 1803; d. 20 Apr 1875.
ix. MARGARET COLE, b. 1807; d. 1883; m. DUGALD MACCALLUM.
x. AMELIA COLE, b. 1813; m. JOSHUA HORTON.
3. MARY2 COLE (MARY1). She married NEIL RAMSAY, son of JOHN RAMSAY and MARGARET TAYLOR.
i. JOHN3 RAMSAY, b. Apr 1782.
ii. DUGALD RAMSAY, b. Abt. 1784, d. 1851.
iii. GEORGE RAMSAY, b. 1786, d. 27 Dec 1862.
iv. EDWARD RAMSAY, b. Abt. 1787, d. 16 Apr 1857.
v. MARY RAMSAY, b. 30 May 1790; m. WILLIAM HARDY; b. 1791; d. 1864, son of GEORGE HARDY.
vi. NEIL RAMSAY, b. Abt. 1795.
vii. DONALD RAMSAY, b. Bef. Apr 1798.
JANE RAMSAY, (Aka: "JANNET") b. Abt. 1801, Princetown, PEI, d.13 Jun 1863.
ix. BENJAMIN RAMSAY, b. Abt. 1803.
4. ELIZABETH3 COLE (BENJAMIN2, MARY1) was born 1788, and died 10 Jun 1866. She married THOMAS HOOPER, son of THOMAS HOOPER. He was born 1772, and died 1837.
More About ELIZABETH COLE: Children: Seven.
i. ALEXANDER4 HOOPER, b. 1816; d. 01 Jul 1894; m. ISABELLE COLE; b. 1823; d. 1906.
ii. MARY HOOPER, b. 1807; d. 1846; m. JAMES MURRAY, 1836; b. 1805, North Bedeque, PEI; d. 1850, North Bedeque, PEI.
More About MARY HOOPER: Burial: North Bedeque Cemetery.
5. JAMES3 COLE (BENJAMIN2, MARY1) was born 22 Apr 1792, and died 22 Feb 1873. He married MARGARET CLARK.
More About JAMES COLE: Children: Four daughters, including Isabelle, and two sons.
ISABELLE4 COLE, b. 1823; d. 1906; m. ALEXANDER HOOPER; b. 1816; d. 01 Jul 1894.
JOSEPH COLES, b. 29 Jan 1713, Oyster Cove, Nassau, New York, m. ABIGAIL HOPKINS, b. 9 Apr 1718, daughter of DANIEL HOPKINS and AMY WEEKS.
BENJAMIN COLES, b. 8 Apr 1738.
MARY ALBERTSON, b. ?, d. ?, m. (1) 16 Sep 1760, BENJAMIN COLES, b. 8 Apr 1738, son of JOSEPH COLES and ABIGAIL HOPKINS; and m. (2) 1766, GEORGE PENMAN.
Note: As yet, no substantiation of the above has been found. Thus, it would be unwise to speculate that Mary ALBERTSON is, in fact, Mary COLE or that this is the Penman couple that came to Lot 13, PEI. However, should it be substantiated, it would indicate that Benjamin COLE(S) and Mary ALBERTSON were the parents of Benjamin (b. 1762) and Mary COLE and that, George Penman and Mary ALBERTSON COLE, if married in 1766, were the parents of Nancy (Aka: Ann), Elizabeth, Margaret, Christina, and Jane Penman.

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