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Beast poetry: No indication of importance. Drowssap SMM 02:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature , Poetry , and Europe . Drowssap SMM 02:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep in one form or another. It may be the case that Ziolkowski is in fact the first/primary/only scholar to use the term "beast poetry" specifically. However, he seems to be influential in the field. Talking Animals: Medieval Latin Beast Poetry, 750-1150 has 180+ citation in Google Scholar and numerous reviews ( [28] , [29] , [30] , [31] , [32] , [33] ). One option could be to re-frame the article to be about the book. The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetry and Poetics cites Ziolkowski in the entry on Beast epic , so if nothing else we could merge there. But I'm inclined to keep given that it seems to be an accepted scholarly genre. Jfire ( talk ) 02:50, 22 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep or draftify , convinced by Jfire. Hyperbolick ( talk ) 08:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment a search under “bestiary poetry” or “poetic bestiary” suggests the topic is notable, and one of these terms might serve as an alternative title. Mccapra ( talk ) 18:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) ( talk ) 02:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep The topic is fo-shizzle notable. It's a matter of reframing the article and creating possible alternate titles. I don't think draftify is warranted here. It can be fixed being on the main space. X ( talk ) 12:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Silvaco: CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:28, 3 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:28, 3 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 04:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 02:23, 17 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Weak keep While I couldn't find anything about the company other than press releases, I found some coverage of their software in books: Modeling And Electrothermal Simulation Of Sic Power Devices: Using Silvaco© Atlas [27] is entirely about their software, Computational Electronics [28] and Introducing Technology Computer-Aided Design (TCAD) have significant mentions. [29] ~ A412 talk! 01:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 06:05, 24 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Weak Keep , found some usable coverage of the company (and not just the software) [30] [31] Mach61 ( talk ) 06:28, 24 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Silver Cup (band): The most noteworthy coverage the group has received is the interview in V Magazine . The rest of the sources are student and community newspapers that probably do not meet the reliable sources bar. Iago Qnsi ( talk ) 22:50, 24 March 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep As the creator, I'd personally disagree. The coverage in V Magazine , their entry in the SLC public library , and coverage in local papers meets WP:SIGCOV in my eyes (criteria 1 of WP:BAND ). I get that the bar must be high, but I caution from putting it too high. WP:RS doesn't exclude local sources (or even university articles, with the caveat of WP:BAND criteria 1), just says that you must verify a level of editorial standards. 🏵️ Etrius ( Us ) 23:11, 24 March 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Utah . – Laundry Pizza 03 ( d c̄ ) 01:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep I support keeping it as there is enough news coverage to meet notability. Pershkoviski ( talk ) 18:44, 26 March 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Weak delete per nom. A relatively obscure band that doesn't meet notability standards; though the amount of coverage included in the article does seem decent, and therefore the reason for my "weak" ! vote. CycloneYoris talk! 23:42, 31 March 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 00:03, 1 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 03:01, 8 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 06:54, 15 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Article is filled with promo spam, including: 7. ^ ""Aquafeed.com | Silver Cup becomes Skretting US"". www.aquafeed.com. Archived from the original on 2023-03-24. Retrieved 2023-03-24." "Gene Expression Changes Related to Endocrine Function and Decline in Reproduction in Fathead Minnow" Spam ref >> 9. ^ Klaper, Rebecca; Rees, Christopher B. ; Drevnick, Paul; Weber, Daniel; Sandheinrich, Mark; Carvan, Michael J. (2006). "Gene Expression Changes Related to Endocrine Function and Decline in Reproduction in Fathead Minnow (Pimephales promelas) after Dietary Methylmercury Exposure". Environmental Health Perspectives. 114 (9): 1337–1343. doi:10.1289/ehp.8786. ISSN 0091-6765. PMC 1570078. PMID 16966085. but these three sources: 13. ^ "LDS singer David Archuleta tells LGBTQ youths at LoveLoud Festival: 'It's a beautiful thing to be queer'". The Salt Lake Tribune. Archived from the original on 2022-09-13. Retrieved 2022-09-13. 10. ^ Jump up to:a b Fuller, Whit. "Silver Cup's Debut EP is a Dreamy Reflection". The Daily Utah Chronicle. Archived from the original on 2022-09-13. Retrieved 2022-09-13. 4. ^ Jump up to:a b c "Family Band Silver Cup Talks Musical Inspirations and Growing Up in Utah". V Magazine. Archived from the original on 2022-09-13. Retrieved 2022-09-13. Show some level of notability. #4 is partly interview, but there is some independent content. Article needs cleanup, but I suspect there are more sources to go with the three above. // Timothy :: talk 04:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Yamini Aiyar: May be in the news recently due to stepping down as CEO, but otherwise not notable. Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits ( T ) 08:58, 29 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People , Academics and educators , Organizations , Delhi , and United Kingdom . Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits ( T ) 08:58, 29 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep. She's the head of Centre for Policy Research ; she seems to qualify under WP:NPROF . — Moriwen ( talk ) 16:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] No longer the head . Plus WP:NPROF is for highly prestigious academic institutions. I can not see CPR meeting that in WP:RS . Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits ( T ) 16:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] That she is no longer the head doesn't subtract any notability. Phil Bridger ( talk ) 19:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] WP:NPROF is for highly prestigious academic institutions. I can not see CPR meeting that in WP:RS . Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits ( T ) 15:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 16:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] A Google News search whose timeframe ends before her recent resignation: [13] . Phil Bridger ( talk ) 19:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh ( talk ) 13:44, 5 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk ) 14:43, 12 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk ) 15:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Plenty of refs for this. Desertarun ( talk ) 15:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Devendra Kumar Upadhyaya: The person is not elected representative, representing government at any level and sources are also scarce. Admantine123 ( talk ) 19:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions . Admantine123 ( talk ) 19:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions . Shellwood ( talk ) 19:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : The Allahabad High Court is an WP:NPOL qualifying position: specifically, judges who have held... state/province–wide office. They're a judge on the highest court of a state with 241 million inhabitants, this is an easy keep. TulsaPoliticsFan ( talk ) 21:10, 22 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per TulsaPoliticsFan.Judge of the Allahabad High Court is a WP:NPOL qualifying position. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk ) 19:50, 23 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Passes NJUDGE. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️ Let's Talk ! 12:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Speedy Keep per others above, a clear-cut WP:NPOL pass. Sal2100 ( talk ) 15:51, 28 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Elsa Mars: WP:Before mostly came up were Bustle as a source, which is definitely unreliable from it looks. Greenish Pickle! ( 🔔 ) 12:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge to American Horror Story: Freak Show , sourcing is heavy but all trivial in nature. I will gladly re-evaluate it if new sources are brought to light, but I couldn't find anything myself. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ ) 16:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] ' Merge per Zxcvbnm. There isn't WP:SIGCOV for this topic, and WP:BEFORE only shows WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs . Shooterwalker ( talk ) 02:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Glamour , ScreenRant , Bustle , The Atlantic , EW . There's more--this is all from the first page of the basic Google News search--really minimal effort on my part to find RS coverage, it just kinda all popped up. I have no idea whether merging is a better way of presenting this information, but it seems not, and clearly shouldn't be an AfD-enforced outcome given this variety of sourcing. Jclemens ( talk ) 04:17, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Nom fails to note that Bustle is a case-by-case source per WP:RSP , which should indicate it's generally useful for fictional characters. I'm perplexed by the above descriptions of several of these sources as trivial mentions only--are we all using the same search engine here? Jclemens ( talk ) 04:21, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 22:34, 19 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep We have a decent reception section referenced with secondary sources and more have been found. Thus fullfills the basic requirements of WP:GNG / WP:WHYN , so I see no reason for and no benefit in deletion. Daranios ( talk ) 11:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Keep or merge? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette ( Let's discuss together! ) 07:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge with American Horror Story: Freak Show : Per Zxcvbnm. No independent SIGCOV found. The Herald (Benison) ( talk ) 03:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] How on earth do you conclude that This Atlantic article isn't independent SIGCOV? Jclemens ( talk ) 08:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] (Or, for that matter, this earlier Atlantic article. Jclemens ( talk ) 08:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC) ) [ reply ] Keep per the sources by Jclemens. They are independent, discuss the character at length and show clear notability. DaniloDaysOfOurLives ( talk ) 04:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Jclemens, this should easily pass GNG. I don't think the sources cited are trivial at all. Swordman97 talk to me 20:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Trap (carriage): This page only defines the term Trap (as a carriage). The only reference is to a phrase finder. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 07:45, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports and Horse racing . Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 07:45, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete per nom. Blatant WP:NOTDICT violation. JML1148 ( talk | contribs ) 08:13, 20 June 2023 (UTC) Keep I think there may be the content and sourcing available to expand the article to more than just a dictionary definition. JML1148 ( talk | contribs ) 23:50, 24 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . I added some references that are way more than a dictionary definition. They cover a range of designs for traps. Eastmain ( talk • contribs ) 15:05, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] So you added six sources to verify the dictionary definition in the article, but the deletion proposal is not based on any doubt that a pony-trap is a type of carriage. The problem with this article is it is very clearly just a dictionary definition, and Wikipedia is the wrong wikiproject for that. I also note that your sources include two glossaries of terms (just reinforcing WP:NOTDICT arguments), a for-sale listing of a trap, and a stock photo of a trap. I suppose these were all added to reinforce the fact that such carriages are called traps, but they are not WP:RS (clearly) and they are reinforcing something over which there is no doubt. The article still fails per WP:NOTDICT . Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 19:05, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] No. It is more than just a dictionary definition. Consider Coupe or Pickup truck . Both are types of motor vehicle, but there are many variations of both. The same is true of Trap (carriage) . Eastmain ( talk • contribs ) 05:18, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep This seems to be a nomination based purely on a current thin state of a stub article and that is not the point of DICDEF. The word is widely used, at least in "pony and trap" as both vehicle and propulsion. Yet what is a "trap"? Does it have 2 wheels or 4? How does it differ from other types of cart? What was it used for? We may not be there as yet, but there is certainly scope here for an encyclopedic article more than a DICDEF, just as we've done for other cart and carriage types. Andy Dingley ( talk ) 11:23, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , per WP:HEY . The article now passes WP:GNG per the included sources. There is probably scope for a general reorganisation of all of the articles on similar types of carriages, but there is no particular reason to delete this page. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 22:07, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Fantasy Amateur Press Association: Ktkvtsh ( talk ) 21:45, 24 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions . Ktkvtsh ( talk ) 21:45, 24 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Speedy Keep as no coherent policy-based deletion rationale articulated, see NEXIST. Many sources such as this readily available in Google Scholar which even in snippet/preview view substantiate the bare facts of the organization as stated in the article. This is transparently a real, venerable, and notable science fiction society that's been commented upon in the academic press: precisely the sort of thing Wikipedia should cover. Jclemens ( talk ) 22:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : In addition to Jclemens' source, there are several pages about the organization in The Immortal Storm: A History of Science Fiction Fandom , published in 1954. I also found a 1944 newspaper article from the Ontario Expositor about the American and Canadian branches of the organization: " Fiction Stranger Than Truth, State Fans of Fantasy ". Toughpigs ( talk ) 22:42, 24 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : The major problem with this page is that it lacks inline references, which someone has decided consitutes a reason for deletion. It just needs work. This page details an important part of the science fiction fannish world and, as such, needs to be retained. Perry Middlemiss ( talk ) 22:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 00:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Speedy keep : This is an institution of many decades' duration. AfD should never be used as a method of asking for improvement in citations. (Full disclosure: I was briefly a member of FAPA, and am still a member of another SF a.p.a.). -- Orange Mike | Talk 04:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
McKinsey Quarterly: Mimi Ho Kora ( talk ) 22:37, 10 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : Can you please explain how this is self-promotion, an advert, and out-of-date? Curbon7 ( talk ) 22:49, 10 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment Being promotional (advert) or out-of-date are reasons to improve the article, not delete it. -- Randykitty ( talk ) 05:58, 11 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Strong Keep : the sources (particularly the Financial Times source) establish that this a highly influential magazine within its circles. The magazine meets WP:BKCRIT criteron #1 as it has been the subject of multiple newspaper articles independent of itself. It doesn't matter that McKinsey sponsors this publication for its own ulterior motives; the magazine has still had a notable impact in its own right. The fact that the magazine itself is self-promotion; is a separate issue to whether this wiki entry is self-promotion. I've made some edits to bring it more in line with NPOV. Jack4576 ( talk ) 11:26, 11 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] There surely is a self-promotion aspect to McKinsey's publishing this periodical, but nonetheless it gets sufficient outside attention to regard it as notable. It's not just your random run-of-the-mill company newsletter. SchnitteUK ( talk ) 21:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep McKinsey Quarterly is a highly regarded publication in the business world. To the nominator, please be WP:BOLD . RPSkokie ( talk ) 09:55, 12 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Jack4576 and SchnitteUK. Passes WP:BKCRIT . Sal2100 ( talk ) 21:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Hey Everybody: This a procedural nomination and I am neutral. 2 different IPs have also attempted to PROD this article, so let's just get this discussion out of the way. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 16:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions . StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 16:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Perfectly reasonable dab with seven entries. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Speedy keep per WP:CSK #3. WP:ONEOTHER refers to one other topic , not one other article . This is a perfectly reasonable disambiguation page. IgnatiusofLondon ( he/him • ☎️ ) 17:36, 21 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep I already made additions to fix the WP:ONEOTHER problem yesterday, so there's no need for this article to be deleted or have PROD templates placed on it anymore. B3251 ( talk ) 17:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Wizardzz: While a Pitchfork review is pretty impressive, I can't find anything else on them, so it seems they don't pass the "subject of multiple published works" criteria required for for WP:BAND . InDimensional ( talk ) 21:23, 12 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians , Music , and United States of America . InDimensional ( talk ) 21:23, 12 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions . Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . As is almost always the case with bands reviewed by Pitchfork, there are multiple published works covering the band; for instance, Tiny Mix Tapes reviewed the album, and there is a short bio and a substantial review at Allmusic . Meets WP:MUSIC . Chubbles ( talk ) 16:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 22:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep in view of the sources identified above by Chubbles such as Pitchfork, AllMusic, Tiny Mix Tapes that together show a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk ) 19:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Death of Anatoly Klyan: WP:BIO1E says: When the role played by an individual in the event is less significant, and little or no other information is available to use in the writing of a balanced biography, an independent article may not be needed. That person should be covered in an article regarding the event बिनोद थारू ( talk ) 03:47, 14 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism , Russia , and Ukraine . बिनोद थारू ( talk ) 03:47, 14 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 05:19, 14 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep But this article, Death of Anatoly Klyan , is about the event, as recommended by WP:BIO1E . The event is clearly notable as evidenced in the article. Thincat ( talk ) 22:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment . You are saying 'Journalist Dying' is a major role in the event 'Death of Journalist', which is obvious an can be said about pretty much any WP:NOTNEWS topic. Also, from WP:EVENTCRIT : Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths , celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena ) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance. All the sources in the article are from exactly June 30, 2014, so it has no lasting coverage. And like written above, deaths/crimes/political news are not notable "unless something further gives them additional enduring significance". बिनोद थारू ( talk ) 06:18, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep WP:BIO1E is already refuted above. And this article clearly passes WP:GNG . And his death isn't just one of those "most deaths" mentioned; it provoked a global response - from the Russian government and UNESCO. That, plus the scope of reporting was global, which WP:EVENTCRIT says helps the case for an article. PhotogenicScientist ( talk ) 14:44, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] [...] the scope of reporting was global, which WP:EVENTCRIT says helps the case for an article The reporting was exactly during one day , June 30, 2014. No more articles after that. Saying "it helps the case" words things in a way as to not consider the other majority of WP:EVENTCRIT which it clearly fails. Namely: 1. Events are probably notable if they have enduring historical significance and meet the general notability guideline, or if they have a significant lasting effect. 2. Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources, especially if also re-analyzed afterwards (as described below). 3. Events having lesser coverage or more limited scope may or may not be notable; the descriptions below provide guidance to assess the event. 4. Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance. Looking at things, not much "helps the case for an article", per WP:EVENTCRIT . बिनोद थारू ( talk ) 02:17, 20 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] And you're accusing ME of wikilawyering... In any case, 2. Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources is satisfied by the multitude of different RS cited for this article - from The Guardian to Al Jazeera. PhotogenicScientist ( talk ) 04:30, 20 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] You are saying it meets a single point of WP:EVENTCRIT (as a journalist death covered by major outlets for one day) yet you haven't explained why that makes it also pass 1, 3, 4 (all requiring lasting coverage, which it obviously doesn't have). बिनोद थारू ( talk ) 05:40, 20 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep It's not a biographical article, It is completely fine to keep the article under the present title and scope. Segaton ( talk ) 05:01, 19 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment . It's not a biographical article Then why is there a subheading called Personal life ? बिनोद थारू ( talk ) 02:07, 20 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . I agree with EVENTCRIT. MLee1957 ( talk ) 00:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Shubham Sharma: -- Jax 0677 ( talk ) 20:43, 18 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions . Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:11, 18 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : No reason to delete valid dab page just because there is a dab page for the given name. Pam D 08:34, 19 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Yes, are you saying that it's exceedingly unlikely for an average English reader to ever search for "Shubham Sharma"? Because otherwise this is useful. Also, you can use {{ transclude list }} to reduce duplication between those two lists. -- Joy ( talk ) 09:09, 19 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . There's more than one article about a person called Shubham Sharma. If there's no primary topic for "Shubham Sharma" then there needs to be a way to disambiguate, and a given name list article isn't good enough (note Shubham is a given name WP:Set index article as opposed to a disambiguation page). See, for example, Kevin Newman doesn't redirect to Kevin ; John Quested doesn't redirect to John . Shhhnotsoloud ( talk ) 16:49, 19 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Kermet Apio: Pepper Beast (talk) 19:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Entertainment , Hawaii , and Washington . Pepper Beast (talk) 19:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:10, 2 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Not eligible for soft-deletion due to previous AfD. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk ) 21:32, 9 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk ) 20:59, 16 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete : Only website with more than a passing mention is My Edmonds News [1] ; has several articles about this person. I'm not sure that's enough Oaktree b ( talk ) 00:02, 17 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 23:21, 23 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep. I see consistent coverage in several local outlets ( Kitsap Sun , Salt Lake Tribute , Tri-City Herald , Hawaii Public Radio ) that suggest he meets GNG, if narrowly. WhinyTheYounger ※ Talk 02:08, 24 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Per user WhinyTheYounger. Subject was more of a regional comedian but has performed in 47 states and Canada, as well as Hong Kong, Israel, New Zealand, and Pakistan , and on Sirius/XM satellite radio. Subject is considered a headlining comedian and has been on Comedy Showcase with Louie Anderson . -- Otr500 ( talk ) 05:15, 29 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Per user WhinyTheYounger. His Comedy special on Youtube has 900K views, suggesting notability. BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk ) 01:13, 30 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Skinny Food Co: CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Looks notable to me. Reliable sources 1 , 2 , already listed in the article. Don't delete: fix. — S Marshall T / C 23:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ S Marshall neither is significant coverage and whether independent or not, they both read as promo pieces to me. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk ) 23:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I collegially join issue with you. :) The Sunday Times is a British Newspaper of Record and Wikipedians evaluate it as reliable. The relevant discussions and consensuses are linked from WP:THETIMES . If you can read that link and say it's not SIGCOV then I don't really know how to react to that. — S Marshall T / C 00:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Both would be considered reliable I believe, but The Times reference would not be considered WP:CORPDEPTH . The Lancashire Telegraph is borderline WP:CORPDEPTH as it does go beyond a routine announcement by providing background on the company. Are there any others as even if these both were found sufficient, not sure they would be enough for notability. -- CNMall41 ( talk ) 20:47, 2 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The Daily Mirror is also a British national newspaper, much less reliable than The Times (cf WP:DAILYMIRROR ) and I would be suspicious of anything controversial that it said, but I would think it's reliable for the uncontroversial claims in this article , which is again already listed as a source. The article seems to be about the founders, but it's got quite a bit of depth about the business. — S Marshall T / C 22:31, 2 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Thanks for reviewing and notifying of the deletion proposal. I tried to only use secondary sources that meet the standards for credibility. Although I do agree with you that some feel promotional, as far as I could tell none were advertorials, product placements etc, and were more just positive skewed coverage. I did try and balance the article and remove any overall bias in the article by proactively seeking out critical sources also. Westenders ( talk ) 12:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 23:27, 8 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep – top sources are used. I concur with S Marshall. Also, the article isn’t very WP:PROMO imo. TLA (talk) 06:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . The sourcing is adequate for a corporate article and promotionalism is not so thorough as to necessitate a complete rewrite. It just needs some minor editing. Eluchil404 ( talk ) 02:36, 15 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 22:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . No valid reason given for deletion. Windolson ( talk ) 23:51, 15 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Polly Namaye: Sources 2-4 are dead. Fails WP:BIO . No notability from the roles she has had. LibStar ( talk ) 00:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Uganda . LibStar ( talk ) 00:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete Subject not notable, just known as a police woman. From searches on google she still doesn't meet WP:GNG . -- Meligirl5 ( talk ) 10:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Please review improvements made to the article since its nomination. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 02:29, 24 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep There is coverage of Namaye in the news, with the three best sources as follows [26] , [27] , [28] . These articles discuss her career path, her role in the police department, and cases she has been involved with. DaffodilOcean ( talk ) 22:37, 25 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Sources provided above by DaffodilOcean enable subject to pass WP:GNG . - The Gnome ( talk ) 13:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Catherine Willows: Just because an actor won an award for the portrayal of the character doesn't mean the character themselves are notable. A quick Google search doesn't give many sources to prove the character's notability. I may be wrong, thus this AfD nomination. Spinixster (chat!) 14:41, 21 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements , Science fiction and fantasy , and Television . Spinixster (chat!) 14:41, 21 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Beyond those listed in the article, I found sources on this character in USA Today , Deadline , CBS , ET , CBR (also here ), Screenrant , The Wrap , Collider , and Slate . And that is a preliminary search. I'd imagine there are even more sources out there on her, and think this search only scratches the surface. Historyday01 ( talk ) 16:07, 21 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep coverage meets GNG, what's more likely needed here is a plot summary trim or condensation, not deletion. Jclemens ( talk ) 16:37, 21 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep I knew we'd eventually get to this considering the trim of CSI characters. However, Catherine actually has a lot of WP:SIGCOV per Historyday01's sources. Ideally, the article can be fixed a bit, but AfD requires a WP:BEFORE search. On whether the article reaches WP:GNG , well the plot summary can be trimmed to include character growth and any reliable recaps. Conyo14 ( talk ) 04:47, 22 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect . The reception section in the article is bad. Awards are for the actor, not character, then we have listicles / trivial recognition like "number 82 on Bravo's 100 Greatest TV Characters" and some pasing comments about her from some episode reviews. This takes me to the soruces found above (from Historyday01), who did not however provide any analysis nor suggest they did anything but WP:GOOGLEHITS report. USAToday is a WP:INTERVIEW with the actor about the character, which means issues with independence. deadline is a short piece about her coming back to the show. So-so. CBS reads like a press release. Sorry, I don't have time to review more sources, but they are not impressive, and I distincly note they are not scholarly but rather at celebrity media level or worse. It is onus on those voting keep to argue there is reliable SIGCOV, not throw a list of links and imply they may or may not be helpful here. This is bad AFD practice. The character may be notable, but nobody has estabilished this, the article does not do it, sources presented here that I reviewed are bad. For now, my vote is to redirect this to the list of characters. Ping me if someone wants to argue there are good sources here to improve this with and I'll reconsider my vote. But right now the sources found seem weak. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 06:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep on the grounds that large numbers of people are likely to want information on this character and come here looking for it. Darkfrog24 ( talk ) 20:37, 27 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] See WP:ITSUSEFUL Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 04:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Okay, I will. Okay, I did. That was neat. I observe that "It's useful/useless" applies to arguments for keeping/deleting unencyclopedic content, which this is not, and it advises participants to say why the information is useful, which I did. But thank you for keeping me on my toes. Good to stay sharp! Hm, but the fact that you said it might mean that my "why" wasn't clear enough for you. I will improve it! Catherine Willows was one of the most popular and long-lasting characters on what was in its day one of the most popular shows in the United States to the point at which the CSI effect changed the way our legal system works, and very large numbers of people will be interested in finding reliable, encyclopedically written, out-of-universe information about her and will come here to find it. To address what @ Spinixster : says, they'll come here specifically because Wikipedia is not Fandom. Darkfrog24 ( talk ) 00:29, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Darkfrog24 I am very confused about what you said. Even if the series is very popular, if the character is not notable on their own, they do not warrant a page on Wikipedia. See WP:FICTION . Spinixster (chat!) 08:10, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Yes, but Jclemens and Conyo14 already showed that she is notable on her own. Once the article passes that threshold, we consider things like whether its existence serves Wikipedia's readership. Darkfrog24 ( talk ) 21:38, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] They just agreed with what Historyday said, they did not show that she is notable on her own. I already did an assessment of the sources Historyday has provided below, which you have seen. Spinixster (chat!) 08:48, 30 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Darkfrog24 Aside from what Piotrus said, see Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom . Spinixster (chat!) 09:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Additional specific analysis of the proposed sources would be helpful. "A lot of people would like this" is not. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . The resources linked by Historyday generally point towards constituting significant coverage. Admittedly, to go through the rest of the sources, the amount of independence does go back and forth throughout the list. The source of "The Wrap" is mainly an interview with the actor, and the "ET" source also includes an interview segment with the character's actress as well, meaning those portions are not completely independent. But even then, the rest of the sources do seem to talk about the character individually, and also create notability for Catherine on her own. The article also supplements this with the actress's thoughts during interviews, which can't be really used as "independent sources", but there's enough there in regards to independence throughout the segments focused solely on the character. As for the reception, it does seem appropriate to include accolades the actress won because the actress and character are effectively linked, so I would maintain it. Utopes ( talk / cont ) 03:45, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep The sources provided by Historyday01 above pass SIGCOV and she is notable enough to have her own article. The article just needs some fixing. Flutter Dash 344 ( talk ) 03:52, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment As the nominator, I'd like to do an evaluation on the sources that Historyday provided myself. USA Today, ET and TheWrap are interviews, and thus do not prove notability. CBS is the actor's biography: notice how the url says "csi-vegas/cast/216685/" and CSI is a CBS show. First ScreenRant article talks about the show, CSI: Vegas, rather than the character. Obviously, for a major character, she will be mentioned a lot in articles relating to the show, but that does not prove notability of the individual character ( MOS:TRIVIA , WP:NOTTVTROPES ) Second ScreenRant article talks about how the aforementioned spinoff of CSI has "wasted" the character. While it does focus on the character's storylines, I don't see how this proves that the character is notable. (also MOS:TRIVIA , WP:NOTTVTROPES ) CBR is similar to the second ScreenRant article. Deadline and Collider are similar to the second ScreenRant article, but about the character's return to the new series. Slate is an opinion piece about the character, which can be used for the Reception section, but other than that is not enough to prove the character's individual notability. I would like to remind you that just because the show is notable doesn't mean that the major characters are. Just because there are multiple sources about the character's appearances on the show does not mean that the character is inherently notable; this is something I've learned myself. I want future voters to keep this in mind before making a decision. Spinixster (chat!) 10:45, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Excellent summary. I found a few hits on Google Scholar. I added one to the article and listed the others on the talk page. Darkfrog24 ( talk ) 22:54, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the first article I cannot access without paying :(, the third article is a just a mention, the fourth one is also not significant coverage. However, the second article is quite interesting and at least passes a partial if not all the way. It comes from the Texas State Library as a peer-reviewed journal: Journal of Research on Women and Gender . Granted the entire article discusses crimes against women as portrayed by the show vs the crimes against men and then analyzes the issues, but it does use Catherine Willows attack against her as a prime example. Conyo14 ( talk ) 23:23, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Thanks for using what access you have to evaluate the sources that I couldn't reach. I was expecting that they wouldn't all be hits. Darkfrog24 ( talk ) 23:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Darkfrog24 Since it seems like you would be interested in improving the article, I would recommend checking out MOS:FICTION . In short, it should have more information about the real-life aspects of the character and less WP:CRUFT . The article also lacks references. If you need more examples, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional characters/Quality content . Spinixster (chat!) 08:54, 30 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] It's not clear how you find this article to deviate from MOS:FICTION. Which issue causes you to believe that the article should be deleted? Right now, improvements should focus on keeping its head above water rather than perfecting the swim stroke. Darkfrog24 ( talk ) 15:43, 30 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Darkfrog24 Perhaps you should re-read what I said. I was just saying that because you were interested in improving the article, I did not say it was needed, but it would be preferred. I did a WP:BEFORE search and many of the results were much like the sources Historyday has given, so I started an AfD debate to debate on whether or not the article is notable. I have said in the nomination that I may be wrong, I never said I was correct. Spinixster (chat!) 15:50, 31 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
VFL Development League: The seven references currently present are a handful of WP:ROUTINE sources describing a couple of key moments in this league's 90-year history; but there is no non-database reference which describes this league in any significant or holistic way. From my extensive experience editing on articles about the VFA/VFL seniors (this article covers the reserves team for that league), I do not believe the necessary SIGCOV exists, and even Fiddian, Marc (2004); The VFA; A History of the Victorian Football Association 1877–1995 – a book widely considered the best overall compendium on all things VFA/VFL – covers the topic of the Development League only in a couple of end-of-book reference lists (list of premiers, list of best-and-fairest winners, list of leading goalkickers) with little in the way of prose. The subject is adequately, and with due weight, covered in Victorian_Football_League#Seconds/reserves as is. Aspirex ( talk ) 11:27, 14 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Australia . Eastmain ( talk • contribs ) 11:35, 14 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep I think GNG is clearly met by the press coverage, and merging this into the VFL article would lose the reference tables which you would expect to find in an encyclopedia - and as the nom notes, were still worthy enough to be referenced in the compendium. Simply put, it's properly sourced, notable enough, and deleting the article makes Wikipedia worse. SportingFlyer T · C 15:31, 15 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - Shocker that I'm saying keep but yeah it's referenced properly and I think - similar to the new AFL reserves page - we'll have more info added soon to really differentiate it from what it was as a small section on the main VFL page Totallynotarandomalt69 ( talk ) 12:16, 17 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 18:58, 21 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I don't think AfD is the right venue here – surely the decision is keep or merge, not keep or delete. – Tera tix ₵ 04:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 16:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - first of all, this was listed at the wrong deletion category - this is the wrong football code. However, article seems to have some sourcing, and it clearly seems like a notable league to me. Keep. Paul Vaurie ( talk ) 22:37, 28 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Sports . Skynxnex ( talk ) 23:53, 28 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - Clearly passes GNG; the League is definitely notable IMHO. Ekdalian ( talk ) 07:31, 1 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Rising Shore Roanoke: Skyerise ( talk ) 23:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] This novel did not get wide distribution, but it is a book that was discussed on radio shows and had some circulation. I would think this meets the guidelines for an article. I updated the article to include interviews with the author and reviews of the book. Klok000 ( talk ) 02:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] That review you added, "Bookpleasures" is not the kind of source that we should cite. Interviews with the author don't help either. The novel is self-published, though the article doesn't say that, and I don't think the author can make a claim for notability. Delete . Drmies ( talk ) 02:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources . Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria says: A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources , at least one of the following criteria: The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy , or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book. Sources Bird-Guilliams, Mary Kay (August 2007). "Homsher, Deborah. The Rising Shore--Roanoke" . Library Journal . Vol. 132, no. 13. p. 68. Archived from the original on 2024-01-07 . Retrieved 2024-01-07 – via Gale . The review notes: "The invented portions are believable, including the ending--you can debate the details, but it seems quite logical. ... Lots of violence and tragedy in this version of early American history; most public libraries will want to purchase for readers who enjoyed Jane Smiley's The All-True Travels and Adventures of Lidie Newton." Riddle, Mary Ellen (2007-08-24). "Author's Lost Colony solution is intriguing" . The Virginian-Pilot . Archived from the original on 2024-01-07 . Retrieved 2024-01-07 . The review notes: "What truly sings in Homsher's work is her amazing ability to understand life. On every page, she analyzes it with a powerful voice. One is astounded to find that the words are unique and apt. ... Homsher writes about women like Elenor who have been involved in American adventure and faced violence. In the end, she crafts a solution to The Lost Colony. It flowered in the mind of a gifted writer." Jacobs, Meredith (2008-03-09). "Tangled love, a Christian trilogy" . The Fayetteville Observer . Archived from the original on 2024-01-07 . Retrieved 2024-01-07 . The article notes: "Deborah Homsher, a journalist and author, has written “The Rising Shore — Roanoke.” The novel tells what two women might have experienced as members of the Lost Colony. The story is told from the viewpoint of Elenor Dare, the mother of the first English child born in North America, and her servant, Margaret Lawrence." "The Fiction Shelf: The Rising Shore Roanoke" . Small Press Bookwatch . Vol. 6, no. 4. Midwest Book Review . April 2007. Archived from the original on 2024-01-07 . Retrieved 2024-01-07 . The article notes: "The Rising Shore Roanoke is a novel of the famous lost American colony, from the perspectives of two women who sailed from London to the shore of Virginia's wilderness in 1587. The adventurous daughter of the expedition's leader chafes at the societal restraints placed upon her gender, while her female servant dares to walk an independent path among the struggling colony. Their journey will take them through the Caribbean and climax in the Outer Banks region of North America. An enthralling saga of a colony presumed doomed, due to historical record of its founder's return from a three-year supply trip to find nothing left of the settlement except the word "Croatoan" carved on a post." Newman, Janis Cooke (2008-01-20). "Faye Dasen: Novel About Mary Lincoln Is a Keeper" . The Pilot . Archived from the original on 2024-01-07 . Retrieved 2024-01-07 . The review notes: "Homsher's historical fiction tells the story of the voyage and settlement via the points of view of Elenor White Dare and Margaret Lawrence, her servant. Elenor, who is an intelligent woman, marries Ananias Dare simply so she can make the journey with her father, John White. She and Margaret both have dreams of bettering themselves in some way. ... Homsher has a way with words." There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow The Rising Shore – Roanoke to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline , which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard ( talk ) 05:59, 7 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Sources provided by @ Cunard are sufficient for WP:NBOOK . ARandomName123 ( talk ) Ping me! 00:33, 8 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting in light of new sources located. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 22:44, 10 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 23:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] comment I don't do book deletion discussions as a rule, but I note that the article ought to be at The Rising Shore — Roanoke , which is the actual title of the book. Mangoe ( talk ) 23:32, 17 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep in line with the references so wonderfully found and added, and support renaming per Mangoe. -- Ouro ( blah blah ) 12:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : I'd probably avoid using the Midwest Book Review source given the criticisms in the Wikipedia article, notably that they were basically accused of being a positive review mill. Other than that, I think that there are enough reviews to establish notability. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 16:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). 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Abideen Olasupo: Oaktree b ( talk ) 15:23, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions . Oaktree b ( talk ) 15:23, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Nigeria . Hey man im josh ( talk ) 15:25, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete . Deeper search revealed nothing. Chamaemelum ( talk ) 15:56, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting due to low participation and recent changes to the article. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 23:35, 12 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] OK, I'm gonna go keep on this one. Appears to meet WP:NBASIC . Policy-based rationale follows. The rules: Per NBASIC People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. WP:SIGCOV clarifies that "significant coverage" is coverage that addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. As we are ultimately here to decide collectively whether an administrator should use the extraordinary power of deletion to remove this article from the wiki, we must as always be mindful to resolve all doubts against deletion , and to apply the rules flexibly in support of our encyclopedic purpose . The sources: It should be noted at the outset that search results may have been skewed by West African naming practices -- as in the article itself, the subject's name is written "Abideen Olasupo" about as often as "Olasupo Abideen". I'm seeing three categories of potentially relevant sources: (1) actual profiles, one unusable and one possibly usable; (2) interviews and mentions that are largely irrelevant to NBASIC but tend to show the subject's encyclopedic significance and likely relevance to readers, which may be relevant at the margins; (3) coverage of various political and journalistic initiatives in which Olasupo has played significant roles, containing coverage of the subject that is significant although perhaps not substantial and can be combined under NBASIC. 1. Profiles: the first source is the worst. The "Foundation for Investigative Journalism", which might easily be confused with other orgs with similar names, appears to be a project of Fisayo Soyombo with, at best, no clear track record of reliability. That delightfully thorough profile must therefore be cast aside. However, Olasupo has also been the subject of another profile, this one in the The Nation Online . Weighing in at 366 words, it contains substantial biographical information. However, as the "hook" for the profile is Olasupo's past work as a reporter for that newspaper, some might prefer to disregard this source as insufficiently independent. (I do not believe that is warranted, but let's move on.) 2. Neither substantial nor significant, but still illuminating: cited by CNN as a public policy analyst , interviewed by the (UK) Guardian on world youth poll , profiled by Tony Elumelu Foundation for COVID19 fact-checking initiative in 2020 , interviewed on his election fact-checking work in 2023 . 3. Significant though not substantial: Numerous independent reliable sources discuss Olasupo in the context of his FactCheck Elections initiative: [1] , [2] , [3] . Earlier, he received frequent attention as a leader of the Not Too Young To Run initiative in Kwara state: [4] , [5] (contains but is not limited to quotes), [6] . There was also some coverage of his attendance at COP26 : [7] , [8] . Various outlets have covered his appearance at the UN ECOSOC Youth Forum in 2023: [9] , [10] . (I have not attempted to compile a complete list.) None of these require OR to extract the content, and all can therefore properly be combined under NBASIC. Conclusion: Olasupo has been the recipient of sufficiently widespread coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject, that it is appropriate and consistent with our encyclopedic purpose to combine the available sources under NBASIC. -- Visviva ( talk ) 03:56, 14 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Thank you Visviva . I am also agreeing to Keep this per basic . Okoslavia ( talk ) 14:26, 14 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Emily Piriz: Fails WP:NSINGER . Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:44, 21 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians , Women , Television , and Florida . Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:44, 21 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - If she only placed 12th on American Idol , then I could understand redirecting this. But she also placed on La Voz . I don't believe that redirecting is the right course for subjects that have gained notability for participating in multiple series. -- Jpcase ( talk ) 01:01, 21 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : I can't access the Telemundo article but reading the headline I think it may amount to SIGCOV Jack4576 ( talk ) 01:54, 21 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 00:48, 28 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Jack4576 and Jpace's decisions. CastJared ( talk ) 03:40, 28 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per norm Dancing Dollar ( let's talk ) 15:30, 28 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Shaun Collier: I do not believe that Ajax's mayoralty is significant enough to automatically award its holder sufficient notability, nor that Collier has otherwise garnered sufficient notability. SecretName101 ( talk ) 01:54, 9 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Canada . SecretName101 ( talk ) 01:54, 9 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions . DreamRimmer ( talk ) 04:34, 9 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep He has a lot of articles covering his work as mayor including sustained controversies and actions taken during COVID. Dr vulpes ( 💬 • 📝 ) 10:41, 9 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Ajax is a large enough city (over 100K) to qualify its mayor as notable. Lots of independent reliable sources referenced in the article. And even if that's not enough to deem notability, his controversies have made national news; the sources in this article are not just local. -- Earl Andrew - talk 14:03, 9 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Earl Andrew Population alone does not make a city of that size politically notable enough to afford their mayor instant notability by virtue of their office. SecretName101 ( talk ) 17:18, 9 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] In that case, judge the article by its sources, of which there are plenty, are reliable sources, significant, and many in national scope. -- Earl Andrew - talk 17:22, 9 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Reliability of sources does not transfer notability. reliable sources publish stories every day that cover subjects that don’t meet notability standards. You have to parse the substance of WHAT the stories/coverage assert about the subject and whether that distinguishes them as having notability. I am pretty unconvinced that the stories cited in this article do that. SecretName101 ( talk ) 18:28, 9 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 06:36, 16 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep I don't think such mayor's are automatically notable - but he was getting national mentions two decades ago when he was elected to council. More significantly is the recent national coverage related to his opposition to Doug Ford 's misuse of Minister's Zoning Orders . I'm surprised this was nominated given the nationally-covered controversy over the Duffins Creek wetland. Nfitz ( talk ) 23:00, 17 April 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Breakthrough Collaborative: Fails WP:NORG and WP:GNG . - UtherSRG (talk) 15:51, 22 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations , Education , Hong Kong , and United States of America . UtherSRG (talk) 15:51, 22 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources . Oldman, Mark; Hamadeh, Samer (2003). "Breakthrough Collaborative (formerly Summerbridge National)" . The Best 109 Internships (9 ed.). New York: The Princeton Review . pp. 54 – 57 . ISBN 0-375-76319-8 . ISSN 1073-5801 . Retrieved 2023-08-27 – via Internet Archive . The book notes: "The Breakthrough Collaborative is a two- to three-year "Workshop in Education" for "talented students with limited educational opportunities" in the fourth through eighth grades. Nationwide, approximately 2,000 students participate in the Breakthrough Collaborative's two- to three-year program of six-week summer sessions, school-year tutorials, and year-round counseling. Having older students teach courses that prepare middle-school students for high school is not the Breakthrough Collaborative's only innovation—the school is also tuition-free. From 1978 to 1990, the Breakthrough Collaborative program was run in conjunction with San Francisco University High School only. Its success in preparing often economically and academically disadvantaged middle school students for the rigors of college-prep high school programs was so widely acclaimed that thirty new programs were established in the early 1990s, at schools in Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Francisco, and San Jose, CA; Denver, CO; New Haven, CT; Miami, FL; Atlanta, GA; Louisville, KY; New Orleans, LA; Cambridge and Concord, MA; Raleigh, NC; Manchester, NH; the Bronx and Locust Valley, NY; Cincinnati, OH; Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, PA; Providence, RI; Fort Worth, Austin, and Houston, TX; Norfolk, VA; and Hong Kong. The thirty-six schools hire nearly 850 teachers every summer, employing an equal number of high school and college students." Delgado Gaitan, Concha (2013). Creating a College Culture for Latino Students: Successful Programs, Practices, and Strategies . Thousand Oaks, California: Corwin Press . pp. 72 – 75 . ISBN 978-1-4522-5770-9 . Retrieved 2023-08-27 – via Internet Archive . The book notes: " Since 1978, the Breakthrough Collaborative (BC) is a national non-profit group that has changed the lives of more than 20,000 students in 33 locations across the country. Sixty-eight percent of the students qualify for free or reduced school lunch. The Collaborative accepts high-potential, low-income students who are the first in their family to attend college. Ninety-two percent of the BC students are students of color. Thirty-four percent speak English as a second language. And thirty-nine percent live in single-parent households. BC communicates with middle and high schools where BC students attend since they track students' academic performance and needs. The Collaborative has two main program groups-middle school students and the high school or college-aged teachers who instruct and mentor them. ... They attend two 6-week, academically intense summer sessions, year-round tutoring, and continuous college preparation and assistance." There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the Breakthrough Collaborative to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria , which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard ( talk ) 08:45, 27 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions . Necrothesp ( talk ) 10:19, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Cunard. There is a fair amount of coverage on the subject, including from Atlanta , Florida , and New Mexico . Here is a WaPo article on the subject: https://www.proquest.com/docview/410189668/9B03E7FD37AB4E20PQ/18 . Enough to qualify in my opinion. - Indefensible ( talk ) 16:43, 29 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Bruno Holzträger: WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 03:20, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Handball at the 1936 Summer Olympics – Men's team squads per WP:NOLY . Geschichte ( talk ) 08:38, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Arcanum (a Hungarian - not Romanian - newspaper archive) seems to have some coverage of him, including what appears to be a feature story on him from Hermannstädter Zeitung in 1970 (decades after his Olympic participation) - it includes this image which was uploaded to Commons - I can only see a small picture of what the newspaper looks like though before I get a paywall notice so it's hard to tell - @ Nenea hartia : Seems to have uploaded the image: do you have access to this source and can you determine whether this coverage on Holztrager is significant ? BeanieFan11 ( talk ) 16:08, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ BeanieFan11 : I don't know what to say. I think he is definitely notable for ro.wiki: he was an Olympic handball player, a handball referee and coach of Karres Mediaș (later renamed Record Mediaș), with which he won the Romanian women's handball championship 3 times. As for Arcanum, yes, it is a Hungarian newspaper archive, but it also contains hundreds, if not thousands, of Romanian newspapers. Yes, I have access to that source and a search for 'Bruno Holzträger' returned 28 results. His name is mentioned especially in German-language Romanian newspapers. At that time, there was a significant German minority in Romania (about 400,000 people), and handball was introduced to the country by them. In the beginning, there were handball teams only in Romanian cities with a significant German population. Holzträger's name is mentioned in Neuer Weg (the main German-language newspaper), in Sportul Popular (the main Romanian-language sports newspaper), in Curentul , and other national or local newspapers, from 1948 to 1996. If you wish, you can download from here the newspaper pages from which I cropped the photos uploaded to Commons (the link only works for 6 days). 28 references might not seem like much, but the communist press, especially in the 50s, was very strictly controlled and the only 'stars' that could be written about in abundance were the communist dignitaries. Bruno Holzträger is also mentioned many times in this book about Romanian handball players and coaches of German origin. As you can see, there are enough reliable sources from Romania, but too few international sources. However, I would like the article to be kept if possible. -- Nenea hartia ( talk ) 19:10, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Nenea hartia : That book source is a nice find - with 49 mentions of him, it's almost certainly significant coverage on Holztrager; as for the others, looking at the one clipping, it seems to be mainly an interview? Unfortunately I don't think it would help much. Do any of the other matches for his name cover him in-depth? BeanieFan11 ( talk ) 19:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ BeanieFan11 : There are a couple. Please use the same link , I have added two more files. For example an article from March 1996 called Ein Mann namens Bruno Holzträger (A man named Bruno Holzträger) or a short obituary from 1978: Bruno Holzträger gestorben (Bruno Holzträger died). Most of the others are generally mentions of him as a handball player, coach, or referee. There could be other references to him, for example in this big Romanian newspaper archive. Unfortunately, although every scanned pdf has OCR, there is no search engine for the whole database, so a search by Holzträger's name is not possible. -- Nenea hartia ( talk ) 20:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The obit is okay, but the other one is really good. That with the book is enough for notability in my opinion. BeanieFan11 ( talk ) 22:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , per the great finds by Nenea hartia, especially the book that mentions him on 49 pages and the last two newspaper articles; his obit mentions that he was one of the "greatest handball players in the world in the 1930s" and the other one is an in-depth piece on his life almost 20 years after he died. We've got enough for a pass of WP:GNG . @ Geschichte and FA Myn J : BeanieFan11 ( talk ) 22:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , he is clearly notable. 🤾♂️ Malo95 ( talk ) 17:05, 17 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Birds of Prey (1973 film): The two sources, while reliable, aren't enough to demonstrate SIGCOV and there are no reviews. Any online presence has been overshadowed by the association with the female Batman villains. Just Another Cringy Username ( talk ) 05:07, 28 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers , Film , and Utah . Just Another Cringy Username ( talk ) 05:07, 28 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Meets WP:GNG . I have added references to two full length newspaper pieces to the article, one was a detailed review in the Los Angeles Times, the other was a detailed article about some of the filmmaking techniques used in the movie, particularly the challenge of flying two helicopters inside a hangar in close proximity at the same time. RecycledPixels ( talk ) 06:50, 28 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] But does it meet WP:NFILM ? At least one of those sources seems to be WP:TRIVCOV . Just Another Cringy Username ( talk ) 07:20, 28 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Interesting you would say that, did you look at either of them? Both are significant coverage. I am interested to find out which of them you consider trivial or passing mentions. RecycledPixels ( talk ) 07:29, 28 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I'm looking at 1, 3, & 4. One sources nothing more than the film's budget and the others are basically movie trivia. SIGCOV means "more than a trivial mention." Looks like this thing aired on TV once about 50 years ago and sank w/o a trace. Even if two critics reviewed it, that means it barely squeaks by one of the five different notability criteria and I just don't think that's enough. Just Another Cringy Username ( talk ) 20:35, 28 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . To add to above, there seems likely to be a full length review from the UK, though Google books snippets are failing me right now [61] — siro χ o 07:14, 28 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , there is a review at DVD Talk [62] Donald D23 talk to me 14:09, 28 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Have enough references of reviews with good coverage. Strivedi1 ( talk ) 12:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC) — Strivedi1 ( talk • contribs ) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [ reply ] I have added a couple more references. There are plenty more in contemporary newspapers. — siro χ o 08:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep there is enough significant coverage in reliable sources including reviews identified in this discussion for a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk ) 00:08, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - I think this coverage, with the references added by Siroxo, is sufficient. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 07:16, 5 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Otto Spoerri: Almost 100% of the Google results for him are of his obituary. There is only one Google result from before his death, a passing mention in a 1999 Entertainment Weekly article . There have been only three passing mentions of him ( 1 , 2 , 3 ) in reliable sources since his death per Google. There is absolutely no depth to any of this "coverage," if it can be called that. Dennis C. Abrams ( talk ) 16:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People , Film , and Entertainment . Dennis C. Abrams ( talk ) 16:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finance-related deletion discussions . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 17:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions . Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:51, 15 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Strong Keep . Who said obituaries did not count??? Substantial coverage in Los Angeles Times , The Denver Post , The Times , The Wall Street Journal , The Philadelphia Inquirer , The San Diego Union-Tribune , Variety (magazine) .... .and that’s only a one-click list.... Please.... - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 00:25, 21 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 20:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . It's not the first time I've seen complaints about obituaries, but in my opinion there is nothing wrong with them (at least in the context of notability). Especially when it's a RS. Suitskvarts ( talk ) 14:04, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Navigator (1986 Omega Tribe album): I went back to look at this article as I was rewriting and splitting the main pages to determine if they should stay, and after looking I couldn’t find much (or any) reliable sources for the albums and most singles. The redirect for this page was reverted by Atlantic306 again for the same reasoning as before. I reasoned that even though it did chart high, there still wasn’t much reliable sourcing to make it pass WP:GNG and just because it charted high did not make it notable when it’s the only thing that I could find. The only things I could really find was an announcement for this and another album being remastered (which only has a bit of text before giving the track list), the Oricon/Billboard chartings in the article, and articles that only mention it as part of writing of the whole career of the band (like the OtaQuest reference in the article). reppop talk 00:43, 30 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] That said, I would like to put my vote to redirect to Carlos Toshiki & Omega Tribe , as I had did prior to being reverted. reppop talk 00:45, 30 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Japan . Skynxnex ( talk ) 01:29, 30 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 01:51, 7 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Meets WP:NALBUM#2 by charting at #2 on the Oricon Albums Chart . — siro χ o 04:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Person who contested prod is correct. Charting establishes notability. Notability can be established by either GNG or specific criteria; meeting both is not required. Bensci54 ( talk ) 16:44, 9 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting. It would be helpful it additional sources could be brought into this discussion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 05:54, 14 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to band article. Chart positions definitely contribute to a band's notability, and I get pissed whenever an AFD commenter pulls the "Chart positions do not contribute to notability" comment when a song or album has like 10 of them. However, there is only one chart position. We still have to write a full article at the end of the day, and a chart position alone just does not give you enough. In all fairness, contemporaneous coverage about Japanese music in the 1980s is REALLY tough to find if your only source to everything was on the Internet and (probably) if you lived in the Western world. However, if what is on the article is all we have, the band article can easily summarize it. Additionaly, you could just list the Oricon peak in the discography section. The amount of content you could write is just too little to make an article on its own. User:HumanxAnthro ( Banjo x Kazooie ) 15:05, 14 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Keep or redirect to band article? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:49, 21 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Passes criteria 2 of WP:NALBUM . We have WP:SNGs for a reason. 4meter4 ( talk ) 21:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Strong keep , with respect, nominating for deletion a second place charting, 20th most sold album of the year just to make a point about SNGs vs. GNG debate is a gigantic wastle of time. If we were talking about a 2010s American album that ranked 40th in the gospel airplay chart maybe the nominator would have had a point, but for a Japanese band of the 1980s it is perfectly perfectly understandable why sourcing is difficult to find, but almost certainly exists. C avarrone 07:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Incest in literature: WP:NOTTVTROPES . If someone tries to rewrite Incest in popular culture (which I feel needs a WP:TNT but theoretically could be a notable topic), I doubt anything from this list of trivia would be useful there anyway. Related AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Incest in film and television Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 06:49, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements , Literature , Popular culture , Sexuality and gender , and Lists . Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 06:49, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment The subject is absolutely notable, without the faintest doubt. There are scholarly books on the subject [42] [43] , the subject is of interest to very reliable newspapers (The Guardian) [44] which makes the point that this goes back to Sophocles and Oedipus Rex. I can see that the current article is basically an extended list and needs drastic sorting-out, but I don't think the existing information is of zero use to anyone who wants to make improvements, so I cannot recommend a TNT delete. This is one of those situations where the encyclopaedia would benefit from more improvement and less deletion. Finding good sources on this is ridiculously easy. Elemimele ( talk ) 12:20, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions . • Gene93k ( talk ) 14:41, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment - Best case scenario, the utterly ridiculous example farm that is spread across three different articles should be removed, and a singular article on the topic of "Cultural depictions of incest", or something like that, should be generated instead, using the sources like the ones Elemimele presented. The current state of the articles are such a mess, though, that there's not a super simple way to do this. As both the nom mentioned, and backed up by Elemimele's comment, this one is in marginally better shape than the other two, so I suppose my suggestion would be to Redirect the other two articles here, and use this one as the base of a rewrite. Rorshacma ( talk ) 16:11, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete This violates WP:INDISCRIMINATE as a pure example farm without context. Notable as the topic may be, it requires deletion as unsuitable for Wikipedia, i.e. WP:DEL-REASON #14. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ ) 09:57, 19 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The article has been rewritten, therefore I am changing to Keep per WP:HEY . ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ ) 06:47, 25 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep and improve. I support Rorshacma 's scenario. The topic is notable as shown by Elemimele , and therefore does not fail WP:NLIST / WP:GNG . There are some references/referenced comments to preserve here. Daranios ( talk ) 11:55, 19 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete No criteria or scope. Purely list cruft. ScriptKKiddie ( talk ) 03:35, 20 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : I agree that this is pure listcruft. There is almost no prose in it whatsoever outside of bullet points. But the title in no way indicates that this is a list article, so it seems to me that the best way to handle it is to stubify it. We can leave a link to this historical version of the article on the talk page for anyone who thinks the lists would be helpful for future expansion. Any objection to handling it in this way? I'll happily write up a stub about the topic in general, but I don't want to do that unilaterally while the AfD is ongoing. -- asilvering ( talk ) 22:48, 21 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Asilvering : Sounds fine to me and in the vein of Rorshacma 's suggestions. Thanks! But please be aware of this parallel discussion . Daranios ( talk ) 10:39, 22 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Thanks for that. I'll get on it a bit later today unless anyone has an objection in the meantime. -- asilvering ( talk ) 22:42, 22 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Go for it, that's the constructive way of applying WP:TNT . If you wait, this could be hard deleted (I prefer soft delete myself, some tidbits from history might be useful for someone). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 01:41, 23 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Ps. To be constructive, I volunteer to translate the referenced seciton on Japanese literature from Japanese Wikipedia. Initially I thought it might be out of scope for literature but it is only about novels and manga, not about anime or other media as I initially thought, so it should fit into the 'literature' article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 01:43, 23 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . I've stubbed it. Unfortunately I don't have online access to that contemporary lit book Elemimele found, so I couldn't use it as the basis for a stub. There's much more that can be done, obviously, but I've got to take a break for now. Honestly, I don't think there's much useful at all in the previous version; I grabbed the only examples that I thought would be useful in an overview article. -- asilvering ( talk ) 00:22, 25 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Asilvering That book seems accessible through Wikipedia Library: link (if it does not work, go to WL, OUP collection, and just seearch for the book title). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 03:00, 25 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Withdraw . The article has been effectively WP:TNTed and rewritten, addressing all of my concerns. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 03:01, 25 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). 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Aviv String Quartet: - Altenmann >talk 08:22, 10 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Israel . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 11:50, 10 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Meets WP:NMUSIC per the following significant coverage in reliable sources: Kozinn, Allan (2007-10-23). "A Substitute Steps Up, an Ensemble Settles In" . The New York Times . (Concert review) Adams, Martin (2000-05-12). "Aviv String Quartet Masonic Hall, Molesworth Street, Dublin" . Irish Times . (Concert review) Dervan, Michael (2001-06-08). "Aviv String Quartet Law Society, Blackhall Place, Dublin" . Irish Times . (Concert review) Ashley, Tim (2004-01-07). "Aviv String Quartet" . The Guardian . Retrieved 2024-01-11 . (Concert review) There's more, but that's more than enough to establish notability. Jfire ( talk ) 03:47, 11 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Concert reviews are not significant coverage. They say almost nothing about ensemble itself. - Altenmann >talk 18:31, 11 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I disagree. Concert reviews often contain analysis and critical commentary, which does constitute significant coverage, particularly in the genre of classical music, where concert reviews are one of the primary venues for music criticism. Here's an excerpt from the Guardian review: Aviv String Quartet, founded in 1997, is rapidly emerging as one of today's finest chamber ensembles. Rich, warm and distinctive in sound, their playing combining technical exactitude with instinctive emotional intensity. Their methodology is often striking. With many quartets, the first violinist tends to be the principal figure. Here, however, the second violinist Evgenia Epshtein and viola player Shuli Waterman are predominant, anchoring their performances in rhythmic and harmonic density and gradually prising the music open from within, while the leader, Sergey Ostrovsky and cellist Rachel Mercer weave gracious tendrils of sound around them. Not only is this significant coverage, the fact that this ensemble has concert reviews in major general-audience newspapers such as The Guardian and New York Times is strong evidence that it will have also been covered in specialist publications such as The Strad -- and hey, look: [49] , [50] . Jfire ( talk ) 20:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] What you cited is an advert. The only fact is that it was founded in 1977. - Altenmann >talk 03:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The excerpt I posted was written by Tim Ashley , a classical and opera critic for The Guardian . It is not an advertisement. Jfire ( talk ) 03:44, 12 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Examples provided by Jfire are sufficient to establish notability. Marokwitz ( talk ) 21:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Substantial coverage through critical reviews. Also, the intro does not contain a valid reason to delete. Instead of after the fact inisting that a critical review is an advertisement, why not do a solid BEFORE ahead of nomination? It's not the case that there are insufficient AfD nominations! WP:SNOW outside and here. gidonb ( talk ) 09:36, 13 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : easily meets GNG. A search shows up plenty more concert reviews and other good sources, but those above already meet GNG. Additionally, I found this quite substantial programming of Shostakovich quartets on BBC Radio 3 , which aired the quartet's recordings over several days on a national radio station. Schminnte [ talk to me ] 10:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Heart of England School: Was de-ProD'd by Necrothesp stating "secondary schools in the UK are usually kept" however SCHOOLOUTCOMES does state that "Secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist" . There is routine coverage online, of terms dates and school fêtes as you'd expect, only news-type coverage is that some of it's students have been victims of crime (while not actually in the school) [4] [5] which isn't anything unusual - There's also a little about the bus that was going to get cut and then wasn't, [6] [7] which I would only say counts towards notability if the article were about the bus, which it isn't. -- D'n'B - t -- 19:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations , Schools , and United Kingdom . -- D'n'B - t -- 19:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete , per above and WP isn't a directory of schools. Traumnovelle ( talk ) 20:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment There is a full page case study in: Val, Brooks (1 January 2002). Assessment In Secondary Schools: The New Teacher's Guide to Monitoring, Assessment, Recording, Reporting, and Accountability . McGraw-Hill Education (UK). ISBN 978-0-335-20637-7 . This also cites a paper by the Head of Science. That book has 134 citations. It seems to be mentioned in a number of other books too with an educational research focus. Research conducted at the school does not make the school notable by itself, but it is not insignificant. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 20:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and England . Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Balsall Common where the school's mentioned, if notability cannot be established. It was opened in 1957. As might be expected, there's local news coverage on matters such as a school uniform dispute, theatricals, drugs, sporting achievements, exam results, headteacher appointment/retirement etc but haven't come across anything that makes this school notable outside of the area it serves. Rupples ( talk ) 01:14, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . As with any other secondary school in the UK, there's plenty of detailed coverage in government reports and in the local media. Easily enough to meet WP:GNG . -- Necrothesp ( talk ) 15:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Sorry, I fail to understand something, can you clarify what's the significance of the school that needs the Wikipedia entry? 1keyhole ( talk ) 18:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete What I see on the internet is routine coverage, social media (not considered to be reliable sources) and databases. The Banner talk 17:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep This is a well established school, created as a secondary modern in 1957, and with enrolment that was 1100 and has risen slightly with the establishment of a sixth form after conversion to a comprehensive in 1974. It has featured in national press coverage, including this article in the Independent [8] describing an innovative website developed by the school in 1996. There is significant newspaper coverage, including negative coverage about a drugs "scandal" [9] . Across the 66 years of the school's life, this news coverage is sustained. News reports themselves are usually primary sources, but in some cases they will be secondary sources regarding the school, such as the information about the school in the Independent article or the history found in [10] and [11] . In addition to the news sources, the school is cited and discussed in research such as [12] - a 7 page article that has a fair bit of secondary information about the school, some of which I have used alreasy to provide some citations on the article page. The abortive attempt to reintroduce selection, rejected by parents in 1988, [13] led to discussion in another paper [14] , whereas there are also mentions in some books. I mention Brooks (2002) above. That one has a case study from the school which cites a paper written by the then head of science. This book has 134 citations. Hunton (2018) also uses the school as a case study, and both books contain secondary information about the school itself, as does the paper above (Schofield, 1982). The school website itself is well produced and provides information (not independent) from which an article can be constructed. All in all, I believe there is sufficient here to pass WP:GNG and it is a whole lot more than we would have for a lot of articles (but I am aware that OTHERSTUFF is invalid as an argument, so I'll say no more on that). What we are lacking is a book with a history of the school, but that is not a necessary precondition for a school article page. Bibliography Brooks, Val (1 January 2002). Assessment In Secondary Schools: The New Teacher's Guide to Monitoring, Assessment, Recording, Reporting, and Accountability . McGraw-Hill Education (UK). ISBN 978-0-335-20637-7 . Hunton, Jake (13 August 2018). Exam Literacy: A guide to doing what works (and not what doesn't) to better prepare students for exams . Crown House Publishing Ltd. ISBN 978-1-78583-354-0 . -- Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 20:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep WP:NSCHOOL has a threshold that non-profit schools need to meet WP:GNG at minimum, and I consider this met. Resonant Dis tor tion 22:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment on sources. Having a problem seeing how the report/book sources contribute to the school's notability. Mary Schofield was Deputy Head of the school, when writing her research paper so not independent. The Val Brooks book references a paper written by the Head of Science of the school, so again not independent; the page summary of the case study may contribute to notability of the research paper but not the school itself. The Jake Hunton book mentions a teacher at the school who created a DNS strategy, but there's nothing about the school. There's little content from the above sources that could be added to the article. The Independent article does contribute to notability; it's coverage in a national newspaper. Rupples ( talk ) 01:46, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I especially think that "School pupils smoke cannabis", "Headteacher retires" and "School builds an extension" could all be described WP:DOGBITESMAN . -- D'n'B - t -- 05:22, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I thought I was clear about the limitations of newspaper reports. Yes, they are primary sources. But the level of coverage across the years is indicative here that there is sustained interest in a well established school, such that secondary sourcing likely exists. Indeed, more does exist. The smoking cannabis article leads to more national coverage, which I have now placed in the article. In 2003 a new headmistress hired a counter drugs firm to use sniffer dogs to prevent pupils bringing drugs to school, making national news. [15] [16] There is also at least one notable alumna, Lorna Want , who I have added with a reference (write up in a national newspaper). The mention of the school in the newspaper reports are passing, but notable alumni point to notability of the school. The Schofield paper is not independent, because it is written by Schofield who was a deputy headmistress at the school, and is also primary in the research itself, but the placement discussed also gets national newspaper attention, [17] which is secondary coverage of the research, making the primary sourced material notable. And the primary source has secondary background information. And there is still more. I just don't have any more time right now to put it all together. But I am confident that this school meets GNG. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 09:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The school made an episode for ITV's series Good Health , written by the school's drama teacher, and acted by pupils. You can see it here [18] and it is described in the Times Education Supplement for January 13, 1984 here [19] . Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 21:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , or merge to Balsall Common . Thanks to the effort of Sirfurboy not only have many more sources been found but they have been used to expand the article. There's enough coverage in national newspapers and local sources to establish notability under the GNG for me to strike the qualified redirect previously suggested. Merge is an option because the cited content isn't especially lengthy and could fit within the target article without making it irretrievably unbalanced. Rupples ( talk ) 17:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Withdraw nom : now a substanially different article to the one I nominated. I mantain that "because it's a UK secondary school" would never have been a good reason to keep it, but as it is now, there's sufficient evidence of SIGCOV to call the school notable. -- D'n'B - t -- 09:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] That's generous of you. The nomination is understandable, made in good faith and has led to the article being improved. What's more, many of the sources dug out were I suspect not easy to find and the nominator is under no obligation to spend hours looking; the onus is on those seeking to keep the article. Rupples ( talk ) 15:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] While the withdrawal by @ DandelionAndBurdock is indeed generous, I disagree with the statement by @ Rupples . Per WP:Before the onus is, instead, on the nominator to check for sources before nomination. A quick check on Wikipedia Library - e.g. ProQuest - identifies many sources for this subject. Resonant Dis tor tion 22:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The nominator did check for sources, there's four linked to in the nomination statement. None of the sources I can see in ProQuest from the Coventry Telegraph support notability, viz, a piece written by the school's principal (not independent, 12 Sep 2015), a reader's letter from a former pupil (not independent, 17 May 2007), a panto writer staging a play at the school (a mention, 01 Jan 2014), an "advertisement feature" by the school's principal (22 Sep 2016). Granted, there's The Times (5 Aug 1992) on cannabis, but all I can see is a headline. In any case, we don't know whether the nominator checked the Wikilibrary/ProQuest. To be fair, yes, perhaps the search could have been more rigorous, but a lot of the news coverage found may have resulted from having access to paid-for sources. Rupples ( talk ) 00:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I have no doubt the nomination was entirely in good faith, and that a WP:BEFORE was carried out. And the article as it was at nomination was also entirely unsourced and had been for 18 years, which is a very poor situation. Some sources did require significant searching, well beyond the basic due diligence suggested in WP:BEFORE. The "because it's a secondary school" comment seems to be elicited by the DEPROD by Necrothesp. I would say I think AfD is best for secondary school nominations. As we are often told, AfD is not for cleanup, but this article is a case in point: the only way to get editor attention to some articles is to nominate them for deletion, and sometimes improvement is the happy result if it turns out sources do exist. PROD doesn't tend to achieve that. However "because it's a secondary school" is no longer a reason to keep an article, per SCHOOLOUTCOMES, so once at AfD it is all about the sourcing. Thanks to D'n'B-t both for bringing this here, and for agreeing to withdraw. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 06:30, 5 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. 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Alfonso Cobo: As the tag says, it is probably the result of paid editing with side portions of promotionalism and COI. Despite the attempts of the creator to convey notability, the sources do not bear the assertion. The sources provided are a mixture, primarily, of blog and oped pieces, press statements, advertorials and passing mentions. The subject fails WP:ANYBIO and BLPSOURCES: there several mentions of him across the web, mostly social media. There is almost nothing in reliable news outlets. Likewise, he has won no major recognition or award, nor has received coverage in national literature. ——Serial 15:49, 19 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People , Businesspeople , Business , and Sexuality and gender . ——Serial 15:49, 19 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Speedy delete : Per norm. Non-notable businessman, I don't see how they meet WP:SIGCOV or WP:GNG . The author has also failed to disclose if they are a UPE, despite several attempts he/she has ignored the tags. I would recommed WP:SALT , as the author seems adamant on getting the page up without adhering to our policies. Jamiebuba ( talk ) 16:00, 19 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:30, 19 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Cobo is actually notable, and his app/company Unfold is now an integral part of Squarespace , a notable company. WP:SALT is also too drastic. I don't see how this is COI. I really don't know that much about Cobo, which is why the article is that short. If I were truly paid to advertise him and his business on Wikipedia, it would have been far more detailed with all kinds of autobiographical trivia that you couldn't easily find online. I don't even know which city or town in Spain he was born in. Please also take a look at WP:ASPERSIONS and WP:DONTBITE too. I know that you deal with a lot of spam on Wikipedia, but please don't accuse everyone of being a bad guy. Just because some of us write about random businesspeople does not mean that we are all covertly paid to promote them. I only read about Cobo in the news and really don't know that much about him. I used Unfold before and was simply interested in finding more about where and how that app had originated. This why half of the article is actually about Unfold, which I'm actually more interested in. There's still a lot more information about him that I'd like to find out. I'm sure that their PR team would make this article far more promotional and advertorial than I would have made it. In any case, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Sendero99 ( talk ) 17:22, 19 November 2023 (UTC) — Note to closing admin : Sendero99 ( talk • contribs ) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD . [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: England and New York . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 18:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Weak keep The Fast Company link used is green per sourcetool. Rest arent, but I can't open it behind the paywall. I find this [21] and this [22] . Enough to give context, but minimal coverage. Oaktree b ( talk ) 21:02, 19 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Looks like there are conflated issues here 1) is the subject notable? 2) is the editor an UPE? Let's separate the two. As far as the subject itself, there's more enough for me that he satisfies WP:GNG . As for the second - I don't know. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Is there anything we can do other than take his word for it? MaskedSinger ( talk ) 11:28, 20 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Independent coverage by Forbes and CNBC more than establishes notability. The issue of COI/UPE should be handled by a topic ban imposed on the related parties, while others rewrite the page, not be deletion. Owen× ☎ 19:51, 26 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Heer Da Hero: We need solid coverage to prove GNG, not just trivial mentions or ROTM coverage. — Saqib ( talk I contribs ) 16:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions . — Saqib ( talk I contribs ) 16:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions . Shellwood ( talk ) 16:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Amar_Khan#As_writer : Coverage including some that contains critical assessment is imv enough to keep this but to avoid long discussions that have taken place during other Afds of Pakistani-related films/actors/series etc, I am suggesting this as alternative to deletion. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep meets WP:GNG . Coverage in Daily Times ( [2] ) and Dawn ( [3] ) is enough. Both are staff written articles. 188.29.129.61 ( talk ) 19:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] 188.29.129.61 , I did include both of these coverage in my nomination, and I explained why they weren't sufficient to pass the GNG . — Saqib ( talk I contribs ) 20:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Thank you for presenting those sources and commenting. For the record, the article in Dawn , signed by Sadaf Haider , and that contains three paragraphs on the series, including critical appraisal, does not seem churnalism nor to "fall under NEWSORGINDIA"; it contains more than trivial mentions or "ROTM": " This script was written by the lead actress Amar Khan and was initially called JanjalPur. After the teasers, many complained this show might be too loud and filmi for Ramazan, but a strong cast and direction pulls the story together, keeping it entertaining without going over the edge.Imran Ashraf is perfect in the familiar avatar of the action hero, beating up goondas (goons) and maintaining peace in the neighbourhood where his father (Waseem Abbas) lost an election. This year ‘Hero Butt’ will ensure his father wins the seat of the local councillor. The opposition is TikTok star Heer Jatt’s family, her father played by Kashif Abbasi and uncle, a corrupt policeman played by Afzal Khan (Jan Rambo), whose deadpan humour is unmissable.Like most Ramazan shows, the supporting cast of quirky but lovable personalities are essential to the spirit of the show. Amar is fantastic as Heer, funny, tough, determined and somehow vulnerable too. The show also debuts Scottish Pakistani YouTube star Rahim Pardesi (Mohammad Amer) whose hilarious face-off with Hero Butt is the stuff of legend. Despite the simple setting, efforts have been made to keep up the production values, and the wardrobe and lighting giving us a very watchable show. .- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] I didn't refer to the coverage in Dawn as churnalism or even classified it under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The coverage was in Daily Times, and Dawn's coverage alone is insufficient to meet WP:GNG. Saqib ( talk ) 10:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Ah, OK! Thanks for clarifying. Still, I don't think you can call it "ROTM" (which you do, unless I misunderstood that part too). - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Mushy Yank , But GNG require strong sourcing, something which are unlikely to be challenged or questioned, IMO. — Saqib ( talk ) 20:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 22:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 21:27, 16 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Daily Times article is clearly marked as "Staff Report", so it is reliable - it is not a web desk report. 2A01:E0A:C39:5CB0:AC70:C0B4:482D:B6E8 ( talk ) 22:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] IP - WP:RSNOI clearly states even legitimate Indian (as well Pakistani) news organizations intermingle regular news with sponsored content and press release–based write-ups, often with inadequate or no disclosure. Paid news is a highly pervasive and deeply integrated practice within Indian (as well Pakistani) news media so requires extra vigilance. And Daily Times is known for publishing CHURNALISM styled articles as evident in the PROMO tone used . — Saqib ( talk I contribs ) 22:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This page was created by 182.182.100.177 | keep |
Sha'ir: The article as currently written is really principally oriented toward a Dungeons & Dragons class. For the sources employed, it seems like what the article is meant to get at is the role of the poet in Jāhiliy Arab society. Arabic poetry#Pre-Islamic poetry already covers this in a more substantive way. It's not clear that the term sha'ir as such has a notability distinct from Jāhiliy poetry. Pathawi ( talk ) 21:45, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:13, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions . CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:13, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I am at a loss as to why this AfD was brought to this location: the article makes no pretense of being about a religious topic. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 23:23, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I probably made a mistake. Which location? I thought I put it under 'Fiction and the Arts'. Pathawi ( talk ) 07:21, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Never mind. I see that someone else cross-listed it. Pathawi ( talk ) 07:23, 21 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 22:52, 27 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - probably could be merged with Arabic poetry per nom, but has additional notability from D&D which might be enough to let stand. Britannica also deems the subject notable enough to cover with a standalone article. - Indefensible ( talk ) 01:01, 28 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Indefensible. The pre-Islamic sha'ir seems to have adequate coverage in tertiary sources, not least of which is course the above-mentioned Britannica. The fact that the word has broader meanings is no obstacle , since articles are not generally about word meanings. That said, I would have no particular objection to a merge. The D&D thing seems pretty peripheral to the topic. -- Visviva ( talk ) 01:26, 29 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I don't know that the two sources linked here are actually evidence of notability: Neither is an article on the sha'ir—both mention shu'ara' in discussions of Arabic poetry. The Britannica entry does count, but its content is pretty meager. Together these don't seem to me to constitute significant coverage in secondary sources, which are among the criteria for notability. Pathawi ( talk ) 06:07, 29 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . As pointed out, it's recognized by another encyclopedia, Encyclopaedia Britannica , as originally a poet having a supernatural connection. 5Q5 | ✉ 12:11, 30 June 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Cyriac Abby Philips: Most of the sources cited have only his tweets and the controversy surrounding it. A Google search mostly returns articles with only his tweets in it. Fails WP:GNG with no significant coverage Jeraxmoira ( talk ) 19:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Health and fitness , Medicine , and Kerala . Jeraxmoira ( talk ) 19:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep This is someone who got in-depth coverage from ThePrint , and whose alleged professional misconduct was covered by an article in The Hindu . Yes, it is true that some of the news articles cited as sources are about claims that the subject made in his tweets, but The Hindustan Times and Mint (newspaper) are good sources who wrote about his tweets because either (a) he is significant or (b) what he is saying seemed to be significant. It is also interesting that his paper in the Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hepatology was withdrawn because "the scientific methodology, analysis and interpretation of data underlying the article were insufficient for the conclusions drawn, and, with its removal, the article can no longer be relied upon." Being the subject of an article in Wikipedia is not meant to be a mark of approval or praise. -- Toddy1 (talk) 23:01, 27 July 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, D u s t i *Let's talk! * 20:31, 3 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Dr Cyriac Abby Philips, popularly known as "The Liver Doc" (Twitter: @theliverdr) is a clinician scientist, senior consultant and certified liver disease specialist based at The Liver Institute, Rajagiri Hospital, Kochi, Kerala. His core clinical work and research focus is on severe alcoholic liver disease and drug induced liver injury in the context of Indian traditional systems of medicine. His pioneering work has been the introduction of stool transplant for salvaging patients dying from severe alcohol-related hepatitis and also disruptive peer-reviewed publications that showcases the adverse impact of traditional Indian healthcare practices such as Ayurveda, Siddha and also Homeopathy on public health. Dr. Abby currently is the most published research on Indian systems of medicine related liver injury (called Ayush-liver injury) in the world and has been invited to faculty position on the Guidelines Committee of the Asia-Pacific Association for Study of the Liver (APASL) - Drug Induced Liver Injury consortium. He uses social media to promote evidence based medicine, empathetic care and improve scientific temper on informed healthcare decisions by using his own disruptive peer reviewed medical publications. He is also the winner of the President of India Gold in Hepatology, awarded by the Late (Hon) President of India, Shri Pranab Mukherjee at the Institute of Liver and Biliary Sciences, New Delhi in 2016. Dr Abby is a three-time American Association for the Study of Liver (AASLD) clinical research plenary and four-time AASLD Young Investigator Award winner, the only Young investigator Hepatologist to do so from India and Asian continent. The Indian Society of Gastroenterology awarded the National Award (Om-Prakash Memorial Rising Star) to Dr Abby in 2022. Dr Abby is a prolific researcher with over 170 peer-reviewed publications in major Gastroenterology and Hepatology journals with over 2300 citations. Dr Abby has been extensively featured by almost all major Indian Media and prominent International Media on his professional, personal and academic work including Germany’s news media behemoth Der Spiegel and Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post, and The Insider. The Week Magazine featured him as the top “Influencer Doctor” from India in their special feature, and The Hindu featured him on their Special issue on “People Waging War on Medical Science Misinformation.” 49.37.226.196 ( talk ) 16:39, 8 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Kindly mention the sources for the claims you have made. It will be useful for other editors to make a decision on this. I still think he is a mere internet personality than a notable one. Jeraxmoira ( talk ) 18:16, 9 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] If you read what he/she wrote, you will see that he/she did. Some of the sources he/she mentioned are already cited in the article. -- Toddy1 (talk) 18:23, 9 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I did read it and that's why I asked for the source(s). Whatever he/she has written apart from what already exists on the article looks like original research to me. I did look for "Der Spiegel and Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post, and The Insider, but only found the insider which is a trivial mention once again. And an IP editor with no other contributions comes and drops 3 paragraphs with 0 refs? Jeraxmoira ( talk ) 20:32, 9 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] There is an article from Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post in the references in the article. Maybe that is the one the IP editor is talking about. Though it is possible that the South China Morning Post has done more than one article about Cyriac Abby Philips. -- Toddy1 (talk) 12:22, 11 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] I may be wrong here but the South China Morning Post's article revolves around a controversial tweet by him. He has significant coverage just from controversial tweets as a whole. Also, I just checked Wikipedia:Notability (doctors) and feel he may pass one of the criteria listed on it. Jeraxmoira ( talk ) 13:45, 12 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 22:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Weak Keep – might be the Heymann Standard in action again based on what I have seen so far. The sourcing is very extensive from locally mostly-reputable sources, clearly demonstrating fulfillment of the GNG to me. Invading Invader ( userpage , talk ) 00:57, 11 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Please can someone do a source analysis Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 06:51, 18 August 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Soso Baike: No zh interwiki, no Chinese name. English name appears in a few places according to my BEFORE but only in passing. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 11:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Websites and China . Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 11:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : Basic confirmation it exists [6] and [7] . Most hits in Google are wiki mirrors. Oaktree b ( talk ) 13:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] redirect to Soso_(search_engine) which briefly references it. In Chinese Wikipedia this redirects to Sogou Baike [8] but we don't have an article for that. Oblivy ( talk ) 00:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : From zh:搜狗百科 , it sounds like this was a former name of Sogou Baike , which is surely notable. If that's right, then the article should be moved to Sogou Baike , or at worst redirected to Sogou . — Mx. Granger ( talk · contribs ) 03:38, 22 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] keep and rename to Sogou Baike @ Mx. Granger 's suggestion makes sense. In fact, the Chinese version was moved from Soso Baike to Sogou Baike in 2014 [9] . Changing my vote to keep and rename. If a consensus was to emerge around merging with Sogou with a redirect I'd be OK with that too. Comment . Interwikis have now been added by User:Yinweiaiqing . I will be happy to see it rescued, although the sources in the zh article don't seem to be very strong - one is Baidu, one is the company itself, the two others are, well, hard to judge for me b/c of the language barrier. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | reply here 09:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Move to the Sogou Baike article is ok. Oaktree b ( talk ) 13:58, 23 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 19:20, 28 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Move to Sogou Baike , although I remember it under its original branding. First source at zh:搜狗百科 (the 163 article) is fine; the rest are basically OR. The permanent dead link on the zh.wp article also just needs a domain name update, but I haven't fixed it. It's a primary source anyway. Folly Mox ( talk ) 09:59, 29 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
List of private schools in San Jose, California: Incomplete and uncited article. 777burger user talk contribs 03:45, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and Lists . 777burger user talk contribs 03:45, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : It is a list of nine Wikipedia articles. Articles are assumed notable until deleted when it comes to list inclusion. Basically, it is just a category in list form, and those are usually kept per WP:NOTDUP . If it drops down to below four or five entries, then I would probably support deletion. Why? I Ask ( talk ) 03:52, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , meets the purpose criterion of NLIST as a navigational list. — siro χ o 05:23, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Schools and California . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 05:46, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep There are 9 entries with their own Wikipedia article. This list is thus a valid list article as it aids in navigation. D r e a m Focus 17:21, 17 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Moral delete (or redirect to the category page, since this has nothing beyond a bare listing) as an unencyclopedic cross-categorization . No navigational purpose is served by its existence. Why can't public and private schools be on the same page? Why make a list at the city level instead of the county level? Too many arbitrary decisions to warrant keeping. 35.139.154.158 ( talk ) 20:16, 20 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Category:Lists of schools in California All of these wouldn't fit well on a single page. If the private and public schools in a county fit together, then by all means merge them. D r e a m Focus 14:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Useful navigational aid. Nothing gained by destroying the article. FeydHuxtable ( talk ) 14:09, 22 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Basehor-Linwood High School: Article and BEFORE showed no independent reliable sources with significant coverage addressing the subject directly and in-depth. Routine local news mentions, database records, nothing that meets WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS WP:RS. // Timothy :: talk 21:31, 25 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education , Schools , and Kansas . Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:40, 25 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment - I need to look longer at this, but initial searches show it mentioned in 11 research papers, multiple books (although initial thoughts are these are mostly directories) and many newspaper articles (but per nom, these could be routine). There's a lot of reading to do. But I will just make a point now that this page was only created today. Yes, it was not exactly created in a good state, but couldn't something have been put on the talk page in the first instance? Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 22:37, 25 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment . A quick look at newspapers.com finds that Basehor-Linwood High School was the result of a merger of Basehor High School and Linwood High School in approximately 1966. Newspapers.com shows approximately 3700 results for Basehor High School, dating back to at least 1930. It shows about 2500 for Linwood High School (limited to Kansas), also dating back to 1930. If shows approximately 1700 articles for Basehor-Linwood High School. It would be very surprising if these nearly 8,000 newspaper articles didn't provide sufficient coverage to establish notability. Jacona ( talk ) According to this non-reliable source, Basehor High School has roots back to 1885 under the name Prairie Gardens, so we're talking about nearly a century and a half of history to peruse. Jacona ( talk ) 23:47, 25 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . After wading through a small portion of the material available on newspapers.com, it is readily apparent that there is significant coverage in WP:RS which WP:NEXISTs to meet WP:GNG . I've added a very small portion of this to the article. There are currently 13 references. Many more are available. The difficulty is that there are so many references to wade through to find the ones that are useful. In 150 years, there are probably a lot more sources offline than there are online. These count, but they are hard to find. Jacona ( talk ) 02:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - Per Jacona, and WP:HEY as the article is already in much improved state and passes WP:GNG . There is a lot to wade through, but there clearly are multiple reliable and independent secondary sources. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk ) 06:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - plenty of strong, non-transactional sources. Easy meet on GNG. Thanks to Jacona for the HEY , and I think a withdraw from TimothyBlue would be very appropriate. 4.37.252.50 ( talk ) 03:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Meets WP:GNG . -- Necrothesp ( talk ) 13:07, 31 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per HEY. Great job. Bearian ( talk ) 01:53, 1 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per WP:HEY . Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk ) 07:28, 1 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Datangshan: The location itself is not notable. DirtyHarry991 ( talk ) 02:39, 9 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and China . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 05:06, 9 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment: The relevant guideline is WP:GEOLAND . Does Datangshan pass WP:GEOLAND ? Datangshan is a hill and village in Xiaotangshan, Beijing , where it is mentioned. Xiaotangshan, Beijing is a possible redirect target if Datangshan found to be non-notable. Here are two sources I found: "北京小汤山，热气腾腾的疗愈之地" [Xiaotangshan, Beijing, a steaming place of healing]. Beijing Daily (in Chinese). 2022-01-25. Archived from the original on 2023-11-12 . Retrieved 2023-11-12 . The article notes: "北京城北约40里，有一座由三个山峰组成的独立小山，山形如笔架，因有温泉泉眼，被古人命名为“大汤山”。大汤山以西约一千米处，有三个低矮山丘，也有温泉，被称为“小汤山”。在因抗疫而被载入史册之前，小汤山就是著名的疗愈之地，并受到多位皇帝青睐，也是民国时的旅游胜地。" From Google Translate: "About 40 miles north of Beijing, there is an independent hill composed of three peaks. The mountain is shaped like a pen stand. It was named "Datang Mountain" by the ancients because of its hot springs. About one thousand meters west of Datang Mountain, there are three low hills and hot springs, which are called "Xiaotang Mountain". Before it was recorded in history for its anti-epidemic work, Xiaotangshan was a famous healing place and was favored by many emperors. It was also a tourist attraction during the Republic of China." Wang, Jiucheng 王久成 (2023-06-23). "北京小湯山" [Beijing Xiaotangshan]. World Journal (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2023-11-12 . Retrieved 2023-11-12 . The article notes: 小湯山村發展成小湯山鎮，幾乎人所共知；殊不知還有一個鮮為人知的大湯山村，明代已經形成村落。 村北有一個一百三十餘米高的山丘，與小湯山村一樣因山丘得名。 原來大湯山村水資源豐富，山腳下有多處泉眼，泉水常年流淌不斷，溫度攝氏二十度左右，足以供村民生活和灌溉附近的農田所用。 曾有諺語說：「大湯山好地方，山清水秀好風光。 蔬菜四季有，花果滿山崗；池塘黑泥藕兒白，山下熱水稻兒香。 」自然資源並非無窮盡，一九六○年代水源枯竭。 大湯山村隸屬小湯山鎮，距小湯山村很近，雖然也有些企業單位入住，但村的境況遠不如小湯山村。 From Google Translate: Xiaotangshan Village developed into Xiaotangshan Town, which is almost known to everyone; but little-known is that there is also a little-known Datangshan Village, which was already formed as a village in the Ming Dynasty. There is a hill more than 130 meters high in the north of the village. Like Xiaotangshan Village, it is named after the hill. It turns out that Datangshan Village is rich in water resources. There are many springs at the foot of the mountain. The spring water flows continuously all year round. The temperature is about 20 degrees Celsius, which is enough for the villagers to live and irrigate nearby farmland. A proverb once said: "Datang Mountain is a good place, with clear mountains and beautiful scenery. Vegetables are available all year round, and the hills are full of flowers and fruits; the ponds are black and the mud is white, and the rice is fragrant in the hot water at the foot of the mountain." Natural resources are not endless. In the 1960s, Water sources dry up. Datangshan Village is affiliated to Xiaotangshan Town and is very close to Xiaotangshan Village. Although some corporate units have moved in, the village's situation is far inferior to that of Xiaotangshan Village. Cunard ( talk ) 10:53, 12 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep as meeting WP:GEOLAND per Hzh's rationale below. Cunard ( talk ) 05:55, 24 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk ) 04:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: It would be nice to get a second opinion on these new sources. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 05:08, 23 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Datangshan looks to be an officially recognized and populated village in Xiaotangshan, Beijing , [55] [56] therefore should qualify under WP:GEOLAND which, as far as I can tell, doesn't say anything against the inclusion of a village. If anyone disapprove of a village being considered notable, then that should be taken at the talk page at WP:Notability (geographic features) . Hzh ( talk ) 18:46, 23 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per User:Hzh . — Mx. Granger ( talk · contribs ) 02:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Dan Reisner: I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 January 15 . — cyberbot I Talk to my owner :Online 12:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators , Artists , and Israel . Shellwood ( talk ) 14:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Sources 3, 5 and 9 are about a sculpture he made, seems to pass as an artist. Just notable. Oaktree b ( talk ) 15:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Oaktree is correct. Reliable sources currently in the article giving significant coverage include The Times of Israel, Haaretz, and The Jerusalem Post. Elspea756 ( talk ) 20:58, 15 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Per Okatree. Marokwitz ( talk ) 14:03, 16 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Passes the WP:GNG . New user. Not sure why they chose to nominate a notable sulptor. gidonb ( talk ) 05:05, 17 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . I'm having trouble finding notable museums that have collected his work, but it isn't necessary; the sources in the article demonstrate a clear pass of WP:GNG by providing reliable independent in-depth coverage of him. — David Eppstein ( talk ) 06:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Independent coverage is more than adequate. Kablammo ( talk ) 13:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : The editor who started this AFD has a ... bizarre editing history to say the least and I've blocked them as an obvious sock (the quacking is deafening). Graham87 ( talk ) 14:58, 21 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Thank you for taking action, Graham87 ! Can you also snow keep? There are two more discussions in the Israel queue that can use a speedy snow delete. At one I haven't ! voted, just miss the button. gidonb ( talk ) 16:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Gidonb : Didn't think of that; will do. Graham87 ( talk ) 16:29, 21 January 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. | keep |
Coin rotation paradox: This term has been used in a popular internet video and in few books which rather target maths learners than scientific demands. But since it isn't really a paradox and covered by regular geometry, this doesn't need an article for it's own.
Is is correct that there was an mistake in the exam, but this was not really because of a phenomen called "coin rotation paradoxon" then, this was just because of a wrong calculation. In the linked youtube video it was goven the name "paradoxon" and given an extra-complicated explanation to make a paradoxon out of a simple calculation.
See also discussion page for more. - Flexman ( talk ) 01:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3 ). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2023 December 27 . — cyberbot I Talk to my owner :Online 01:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mathematics-related deletion discussions . Shellwood ( talk ) 02:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - There are (as far as I can tell) two arguments presented in favor of deletion: It's "not a paradox" and it's redundant to some as-yet unidentified article. This particular quirk of rotations is not discussed at geometry , nor was I able to find it after a brief skim of rotation (geometry) , so presumably the nominator was thinking of another article, but until that article is specified, this argument is incomplete. As for "not a paradox" - take it to WP:RM . Badly-titled articles should not be deleted, they should be renamed. -- N Y Kevin 02:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Maybe it fits into the article of rotation. This video provides the simple answer without calling it paradox: If the radius of circla A is 1/n of the radios circle B, the answer is n+1. Nothing paradox about it. There isn't even an expression for "Coin rotation paradox" in other languages since it is more connected to the phenomen of this SAT test than to regular science. Flexman ( talk ) 10:52, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] It is indeed a veridical paradox . The coin rotates more when rolling around another coin than when rolling on a line segment of the length of the latter coin's circumference. This is strongly counterintuitive at the first glance, enough to be called a paradox. If this wasn't a paradox, just geometry , birthday paradox would also not be a paradox, just simple probability calculations. Janhrach ( talk ) 21:14, 30 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep There are plenty of sources for this, the article should be cleaned up for sure but it passes WP:GNG Dr vulpes (Talk) 05:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Murtagh, Jack. "The SAT Problem That Everybody Got Wrong" . Scientific American . Retrieved 2023-12-27 . Keep : Seems to pass GNG. For the record, I contested the PROD. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (she/they 🎄 🏳️⚧️) 07:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] There's a tendency of certain people on YouTube to call everything a "paradox" as clickbait. This is one of the reasons that YouTube isn't a very good source. But the right answer, if it is a documented mathematics topic, is to take the YouTube clickbait out of the title, not nominate the article for deletion. Uncle G ( talk ) 13:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment "Paradox" is definitely sensationalistic; "puzzle" would be justifiable, as it appears in books of them, e.g., [43] [44] . An abstracted version of the puzzle appears in group theory [45] . XOR'easter ( talk ) 15:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Agree with XOR'easter that calling it [a?] coin rotation puzzle rather than paradox would be more apt. -- JBL ( talk ) 18:51, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] If we take a look on Deferent and epicycle , does this have a relation to the puzzle? - Flexman ( talk ) 23:20, 29 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Vaguely but not even really enough to be worth mentioning in either article. — David Eppstein ( talk ) 07:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] You won't be shocked to know that Gardner did an extension to a single coin rolling around a closed loop of n coins ( n > 2 ) in Mathematical Carnival in 1975, which was an updated version of xyr 1966 Scientific American column. And the chapter in the book is titled "Penny Puzzles". Uncle G ( talk ) 19:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Strong keep : It is too specific a phenomenon to belong to geometry or similar articles. Just because it is obvious to Flexman doesn't mean it is to others; it is described in Scientific American , Wolfram MathWorld etc. Regarding the name, a Google search shows many parties calling it a paradox . cmɢʟee ⎆ τaʟκ 03:24, 28 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] MathWorld is known to be a bad source for terminology, and a generic Google search turns up unreliable rubbish. XOR'easter ( talk ) 15:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Also the choice of title of the Wikipedia article for a relatively obscure thing like this with no "real" name will have a pretty big impact on the google hits. 100.36.106.199 ( talk ) 01:48, 29 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep: “This isn't even a paradox, it's just geometry” is such a lame excuse for destroying someone’s hard work on writing an article on a truly remarkable topic (in geometry :-p) that has garnered significant attention in both popular and scholarly circles. It’s extremely telling that you would rush immediately to deleting it instead of first suggesting a rename or something non-destructive. Stop the deletionism! — Timwi ( talk ) 10:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep The notability of this mathematical phenomenon does not seem to be in dispute. Maybe the title should be changed, but I would note that describing counter-intuitive results as paradoxes is very much a regular occurrence in the field. TompaDompa ( talk ) 19:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : discussed in many reliable sources, clearly notable. Deleting this article solely because it uses the term "paradox" in a colloquial sense is absurd. Must we also then delete Epimenides paradox , Barbershop paradox , Cantor's paradox , and every other non-intuitive but logically sound idea? Dan • ✉ 04:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : This seems like a clearly notable observation/phenomenon. Retitling would be fine if someone can find a different name which is more common (or comparably common and clearer). – jacobolus (t) 05:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . There are plenty of sources. As nominated, it already had two sources associating it with a "paradox" (Mathworld and Mathematical Fallacies and Paradoxes ) and a major national newspaper story about the SAT snafu. There is plenty more where that came from; for instance Martin Gardner also calls it the "coin paradox" (again separate from the SAT). There is no need to rename; it fits perfectly well into Category:Mathematical paradoxes which clearly states on the category page "Paradox" here has the sense of "unintuitive result", rather than "apparent contradiction". The fact that this is unintuitive is attested by the failure of the SAT creators to notice the problem and the tiny percentage of SAT participants who reported the problem. — David Eppstein ( talk ) 06:16, 30 December 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh: Unreferenced for 17 years and fails GNG. Would reconsider if someone found coverage in Hindi or Marathi. LibStar ( talk ) 05:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Maharashtra . LibStar ( talk ) 05:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - first of all, what WP:BEFORE was performed here? There is certainly sufficient material available in English to establish notability. Take for example, Hindustan Times , "Apart from a rise in wages, the union also demanded the scrapping of the Bombay Industrial Relations Act, a law that allowed only one trade union – Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (RMMS) – to function. For long, industrial workers had accused RMMS of being hand in glove with owners. " Economic and Political Weekly , "...Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (RMMS), which has enjoyed the right of being the sole bargaining agent for all textile workers in Bombay, [...]" Indian Express , "Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (RMMS),the recognised union of mill workers." The Western Political Quarterly (1958) "...governments for their existence. The Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh. (RMMS) of Bombay City serves as the major exception to this dual classification and thus constitutes a third type of textile union . In comparison with the “ weak areas " the RMMS is thoroughly entrenched in its legal "representative " status and enjoys a significant degree of independence from political ties ." Economic Times , "The Hindoostan Spinning and Weaving Mills cleared the last tranche of its dues amounting to Rs 3 crore payable to workers belonging to the company’s Mahalaxmi unit. The mill has 3 units in Mumbai at Mahalaxmi, Dadar and Prabhadevi. Following an agreement signed with the official union the Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (RMMS) in ‘02, around 2,000 workers opted for VRS." India Today , "But Salunke is steadfast in his support for firebrand union leader Datta Samant, the one man most responsible for the unprecedented strike. "We are prepared to go back to work even if our monetary demands are not conceded," he says. "But the Government must recognise Samant's union as the legitimate one, and kick the Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (RMMS) out of our lives." DNA , "The Congress party had nurtured its “chamcha” union, the Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (RMMS), and mill owners colluded with it to engineer ... [...] the Khatau saga that had “all the ingredients of a ‘Mollywood’ blockbuster, replete with guns, gangland killings and the subversion of unions." Rediff , "In November 2000, a final agreement on a voluntary retirement scheme was arrived at between the Indian National Trade Unions Congress-affiliated Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh and the managements of the Standard Mill (Prabhadevi) and New China Mill (Sewri). Naik and 3,550 others took VRS but got the money only after two years" Hindustan Times , "Ahir, who began his career as a trade union leader, once led the powerful Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (RMMS), the only recognised union of ..." Economic Times , "While the officially-recognised Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (RMMS) is supporting the land development plans, the Left-leaning unions have ..." The Indian Labour Year Book (1948) , ""The Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh, Bombay, handled 218 cases during the year 1948 and realised Rs. 90,911 as compensation. Both the unions have opened special branches to attend all matters relating the claims and to render assistance to all workers whether members of the Union or not", p. 347 indicates a membership of 20,462. The Politics of Labor in a Global Age: Continuity and Change in Late , "Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (National Mill Workers' Union). Under the corporatist Bombay Industrial Relations Act of 1946, a single trade union is ..." Outcaste Bombay: City Making and the Politics of the Poor , "... Bombay Industrial Dispute Act of 1946. The RMMS thus became an important presence in the lives of the workers by the end of the 1940s." The Power of Place: Contentious Politics in Twentieth-Century Shanghai and Bombay , "... Bombay shut down and 250,000 workers (full-time and badli) went out on strike. The Maharashtra government declared the strike illegal. Labor officials and mill owners refused to discuss terms with any union other than the RMMS." Organising Labour in Globalising Asia , "... RMMS is the most extreme example of this phenomenon in Bombay.7 The power of the RMMS was first created by recognition under the Bombay Industrial Relations Act, but was boosted by legislation restricting the closure of mills that ..." The Emergence of an Industrial Labor Force in India , "... RMMS is shaped by its legal status under the Bombay Industrial Relations Act ( 1946 ) . The view is frequently put forth by government , labor , and management officials in Bombay that the RMMS would even collapse without this ..." A Study of the Labor Movement and Industrial Relations in the Cotton Textile Industry in Bombay, India , "... ( R. M. M. S. ) , Bombay -- the name the organization bears today . The Sangh started a determined effort to remove the Red Flag organization from its position of leader of the Bombay textile workers . Its prestige was greatly enhanced by ..." Bombay Brokers , "... Bombay mill workers to lead them in a conflict between the Bombay Millowners Association and the union: the Rashtriya Mill Mazdoor Sangh (RMMS), which had represented the mill workers for decades. This led to a complete shutdown of the ..." Workers Education in Asia , "THE WORKERS ' EDUCATION ACTIVITIES OF THE RASHTRIYA MILL MAZDOOR SANGH ( RMMS ) , BOMBAY ( INTUC ) ( a ) Aims and objectives of workers ' education pogrammes for 130,000 members of RMMS ( INTUC ) are as follows : ( i ) To prepare ..." India Today , "... ( RMMS ) , which repre- sents the city's over one- lakh textile mill workers ... " Labour and Unions in Asia and Africa: Contemporary Issues , "discrimination against non-RMMS workers , and arbitrary dismissals . It is these phenomena that gave ... RMMS began to lose its autocratic control over the workers . The alliance between ..." Also here on a scheme for illegal resale of subsidized apartments... perhaps can explain adverts like this one ? All, in all, I think there is sufficient material available to conclude that RMMS is a notable organization and that there is material for the sourcing and expansion of the article. -- Soman ( talk ) 12:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Mr. Soman's sources. The article must be expanded though, it contains nothing. MrMkG ( talk ) 15:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment : I would have draftified it rather than taking it to Afd. Grab Up - Talk 15:32, 16 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Grabup : That's not an option for articles older than 90 days without consensus from an AfD discussion. Hey man im josh ( talk ) 19:30, 23 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Hey man im josh , Thanks for the information. Grab Up - Talk 01:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). 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Challaghatta metro station: Sources only provide general information about the metro line. Except for some original research on the station layout and exits, no useful information is provided. Timothytyy ( talk ) 05:29, 21 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Transportation and India . Timothytyy ( talk ) 05:29, 21 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Karnataka-related deletion discussions . Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:09, 21 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge to Purple Line (Namma Metro) if this cannot be expanded. Members of notable sets that are not individually notable should be merged and redirected to the article about the set in almost all cases, and there is no evidence that this should be an exception. Thryduulf ( talk ) 10:03, 21 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Dear @ Thryduulf , @ Spiderone and @ Timothytyy , Sorry to have forgotten to tag you to my reply. Hoping to see response from your end. Sameer2905 ( talk ) 02:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Thryduulf , I've expanded the article. Would you mind taking another look to see whether in your opinion there's now enough for its retention? Rupples ( talk ) 03:35, 28 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Pls let me know what more useful information is needed for this metro station as well as the Benniganahalli metro station. Cause the information which is required for the audience is given. I don't seem to perform the task of adding more information that are not needed for the audience to know more about the above mentioned stations. Sameer2905 ( talk ) 02:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] WP:SIGCOV is about individual coverage. No sources in the article provide reliable, independent and significant coverage about the station. Timothytyy ( talk ) 07:49, 22 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect to Purple Line (Namma Metro)#Stations . S5A-0043 Talk 23:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Seems to meet WP:GNG already, and given it's only just opened will doubtless soon meet it even more. -- Necrothesp ( talk ) 13:46, 24 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Can you provide some SIGCOV? Timothytyy ( talk ) 10:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep. I've expanded the article a bit and in my view there is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to pass the GNG. WP:SIGCOV is a matter of individual assessment. There's not a fantastic amount of coverage but there's enough at present to write a brief yet informative article on the station. Rupples ( talk ) 22:25, 26 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] There's only one RS that seems to provide some degree of individual coverage for the subject. Can you provide more? Timothytyy ( talk ) 11:23, 27 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] See what you mean. Running through the sources in the article most are about the line rather than the station. I'd include both the new sources I put in, including the article on the access because it relates specifically to the station, but I'll run a further search. Thanks. Rupples ( talk ) 20:17, 27 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Further material now added. Rupples ( talk ) 23:49, 27 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting given expansion of the article. Source assessment would be helpful. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 07:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Redirect as above - as discussed several times in other AfD debates, I struggle to believe that metro stops which have only been in operation a short time can be considered notable. In time, I'm sure things will happen on the new Bengaluru lines which will be reported in the news. But right now the only coverage is routine. On a personal note, I've traveled on the Namma Metro and quite enjoyed it. I hope it continues to expand and improve. JMWt ( talk ) 09:10, 28 October 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Comment . A further reason I'm favouring keeping this article is the potential for expansion from adding a paragraph or two on the new train depot that's being constructed adjacent to the metro station (which is the western terminus of the Purple Line). I came across a couple of articles on the depot but there may not be sufficient coverage for a separate article. I'd support changing the title of this article to Challaghatta metro station and depot . Rupples ( talk ) 21:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Merge to Purple Line (Namma Metro) per above. // Timothy :: talk 16:23, 2 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Dear @ TimothyBlue , This needs to be kept as a proper article since all information has been mentioned in the wikipage. Kind request to remove the deletion bar from the page. Santosh4118 ( talk ) 14:37, 3 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Santosh4118 The problem is not about the amount of info, it is about the notability of the subject. Timothytyy ( talk ) 05:23, 4 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] You mean like the notability issue with Yuyuan station (Shenzhen Metro) ? Rupples ( talk ) 20:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] @ Rupples 1. I don't understand why you are linking to another article 2. There are 3 sources providing independent coverage on the subject 3. Yes, this article isn't notable due to the lack of sources. 4. There was an SNG years ago that was deprecated as the consensus was train stations do not have inherited notability without enough SIGCOV. Timothytyy ( talk ) 00:50, 5 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] This is not just a train station, it is a metro (rapid transit) station. I am sure all of them have enough coverage to pass the notability threshhold. Ymblanter ( talk ) 18:55, 5 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 23:13, 4 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , we seem to be going in circles. Another similar discussion has been just closed as no consensus, there are sufficient sources in this article, and it would be odd if some of the articles in the line get redirected and some not given the same coverage. Ymblanter ( talk ) 18:53, 5 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] OTHERSTUFF . Timothytyy ( talk ) 22:42, 5 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Timothytyy , I don't think you need to remind an administrator who has been editing for 12 years about this essay. L iz Read! Talk! 05:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] But do you think "some... and some..." is a constructive comment? Timothytyy ( talk ) 10:48, 6 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Just found out this metro station was part of a recent bundled AfD nomination Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andheri West metro station and kept seemingly on the proviso to check the individual metro stations for sources and expand the article, if possible. It depends on sourcing as to whether the article can be progressed from a stub. If it can't, then yes a redirect/merge solution to a list of metro stations is appropriate. If it can, and I believe that's been demonstrated here, then the page should be kept. I don't see why there shouldn't be a mix of some stations being kept and others redirected/merged. Rupples ( talk ) 02:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Still waiting on an assessment of the expansion of this article by User:Rupples rather than general statements on metro stations. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 23:36, 11 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Rupples' expansion work has turned up a good number of sources, and even the ones that are mainly about the Purple Line expansion still discuss the station as a matter of necessity, since it's the new terminus of the line. It's already longer than what I'd consider a stub, and it looks like there's still potential for expansion. TheCatalyst31 Reaction • Creation 19:07, 18 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
The Elements of Moral Philosophy: No inline sources and a quick online search found no significant coverage. Mattdaviesfsic ( talk ) 15:33, 15 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions . Mattdaviesfsic ( talk ) 15:33, 15 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - per WP:TEXTBOOKS . This book is the most popular philosophy textbook according to open syllabus, it clearly meets the requirement of "whether it is, or has been, taught, or required reading, in one or more reputable educational institutions" - car chasm ( talk ) 16:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - ( edit conflict ) I have found the following sources which are sufficient for GNG: [6] , [7] , [8] . I would also note that this review of another of Rachels's book begins with: James Rachels's The Elements of Moral Philosophy is one of the most popular philosophy textbooks ever written. At one point nearly a third of all ethics classes in the United States were using this book . WJ94 ( talk ) 16:08, 15 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . Reviews in Teaching Philosophy (1993) [9] , (2000) [10] ; review in Personnel Review (1993) [11] ; obituary of author noting its bestseller status [12] , a "popular textbook" that "contains one of the best-known critiques of moral relativism" [13] , a "widely used textbook" [14] , a "famous textbook" [15] . Jahaza ( talk ) 16:28, 15 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per discussion. Clearly fulfills WP:TEXTBOOKS and reliable sources exist. ULPS ( talk ) 18:05, 15 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per above. Andre 🚐 01:33, 18 May 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Keepa Mewett: JTtheOG ( talk ) 23:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople , Rugby union , and New Zealand . JTtheOG ( talk ) 23:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Weak keep There's this and a fair few other bits on his rugby career, and then a fair bit also on his post-rugby career. Worth a weak keep in my opinion. Rugbyfan22 ( talk ) 18:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 23:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L iz Read! Talk! 22:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep , though I was initially leaning toward a delete some research shows the BoP Times profile, and other articles about being selected to play internationally as part of the Māori All Blacks . Its thin but I think it is enough. David Palmer // cloventt ( talk ) 08:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep . He captained the Bay of Plenty side and played for the Māori All Blacks. As well as the Bay of Plenty Times profile, there is this profile from the Manawatu Standard during his stint playing for Manawatū, and this podcast that profiles his life journey. Paora ( talk ) 03:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep : Per WP:HEY . I will insist the sources per se be incorporated into the article. All the best. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 09:55, 31 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Lu Sheng-yen: There is simply not enough coverage of this person in reliable sources, most sources being used in the article are primary. The article makes some grandiose statements about him, but none of them are reliably sourced (some were inserted by SPAs) so it's difficult to know how influential this person actually is in China/Taiwan. SparklyNights ( t ) 16:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People , Buddhism , China , Hong Kong , and Taiwan . SparklyNights ( t ) 16:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Idk yet. Dude gets news coverage. I got lots of hits on google news (four of which on the first page are from this year and setn.com, the RSness of which I'm uncertain about). Also got hits on google scholar from Buddhism sources. I'm on lunch so I don't really have time to read Chinese and assess whether the sources contribute to notability, but they're there. Hope to circle back this weekend. Folly Mox ( talk ) 18:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] FYI Sources 33 and 36 are the only green ones per the source tool, looks like a whole bunch of iffy sourcing, but this is just my quick scan; I'll perhaps look later. Oaktree b ( talk ) 21:27, 16 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Delete or merge - this person has "references" largely because of the grandiose claims of primary sources. When the ones from the organization are removed, this article gets a lot thinner. I think this should either be deleted or merged into the True Buddha School article as a subsection. Kazamzam ( talk ) 12:38, 19 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources . The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria , which says: People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable , intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject . If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability. Sources Tam, Wai Lun (2016). "The Tantric Teachings and Rituals of the True Buddha School: The Chinese Transformation of Vajrayāna Buddhism" . In Gray, David B. ; Overbey, Ryan Richard (eds.). Tantric Traditions in Transmission and Translation . Oxford: Oxford University Press . pp. 309–313. doi : 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199763689.003.0009 . ISBN 978-0-19-976368-9 . Retrieved 2023-11-21 – via Google Books . The book notes: "The True Buddha School has arisen out of the life and experience of Master Lu Sheng-Yen (盧勝彥, b. 1945). Born in Jiayi 嘉義 County, Taiwan, Master Lu is the author of more than 240 books, writing extensively on his own religious experience and cultivation. Lu received his tertiary education in a military college in Taiwan and was trained as a surveyor. He had a deep religious experience in 1969 that led him from his Presbyterian Christian upbringing to a period of seeking, studying, and learning Buddhism (Yao 1994; Tam 2001; Melton 2007). This period lasted for some twelve years during which time Master Lu began to openly accept disciples to teach them Buddhism. Near the end of this period, he also founded the True Buddha School (first known as the Lingxian 靈仙 School) and moved from his native Taiwan to the United States, a symbol of his intention to spread Buddhism internationally. ... Much in the same fashion, Master Lu was an onlooker in 1969 when he accompanied his mother to a temple where there was a medium serving the community. Master Lu was suddenly "possessed" and was given, without his prior consent, the ability to see and communicate with the spiritual world. After this miraculous encounter, Master Lu continued to receive the nocturnal visits of an invisible master who transmitted to him Daoist and Tantric teachings." Irons, Edward A. (2008). Melton, J. Gordon Melton (ed.). Encyclopedia of Buddhism . New York: Checkmark Books. Infobase . pp. 316–317. ISBN 978-0-8160-7744-1 . Retrieved 2023-11-21 – via Internet Archive . The book notes: "Master Lu Sheng-Yen, the founder of the True Buddha School, one of a small number of relatively new Taiwanese Buddhist groups that have emerged as international movements, was born in 1945 in Jiayi (or Chiai) in south central Taiwan. He attended Chun-Jen Polytechnic College in the 1960s and after completing his work joined the army. Lu was raised as a Presbyterian (the oldest Christian movement in Taiwan); however, in 1969, while visiting a Taiwanese temple, the Palace of the Jade Emperor, he encountered a medium named Qiandai, who was a member of a new Taiwanese group called the Compassion Society, based on worship of Xi Wangmu, the Royal Mother of the West, under the name Jinmu. During her presentation, Qiandai told Lu that the gods of the temple wished him to acknowledge them. Thrown into a state of confusion, he found himself able to communicate with the spirit world. Communications continued daily for the next three years. He also met a Daoist master who ..." Gray, David (2011). "Tibetan Lamas In Ethnic Chinese Communities And The Rise Of New Tibetan-Inspired Chinese Religions" . In Orzech, Charles D. ; Sørensen, Henrik H. ; Payne, Richard K. (eds.). Esoteric Buddhism and the Tantras in East Asia . Leiden: Brill Publishers . p. 570 – 571 . doi : 10.1163/ej.9789004184916.i-1200.238 . ISBN 978-90-04-18491-6 . ISSN 0169-9520 . Retrieved 2023-11-21 – via Google Books . The book notes: "One of the most successful self-proclaimed Chinese masters is Lu Sheng-yen 盧勝彥 (1945–present), who refers to himself as the “Living Buddha Lotus-Born” (Liansheng huo Fo 蓮生活佛), most likely in reference to the great founder of the Nying-ma ( rnying ma ) school of Tibetan Buddhism, Padmasambhava. He founded in Taiwan a new religious movement called the True Buddha School (Zhen Fo zong 真佛宗), which identifies itself as a Vajrayāna Buddhist tradition, although it also draws heavily from traditional Chinese popular religion, both Buddhist and Daoist. The school now has numerous temples throughout the world, with the majority founded in areas where there is a sizable Chinese community, such as Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Australia, and North America. Lu Sheng-yen currently lives in Redmond, Washington, where the main temple of this school is based. He is a prolific author, and has written, according to one source, one hundred and ten works in Chinese, several of which have been translated into English." There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Lu Sheng-yen ( traditional Chinese : 盧勝彥 ; simplified Chinese : 卢胜彦 ) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline , which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard ( talk ) 09:23, 21 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 15:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per Cunard. S5A-0043 Talk 03:21, 29 November 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep per WP:GNG , sources given by Cunard appear reliable. 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Hirofumi Torii: PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Japan . Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep This user has nominated 49 different figure skaters for deletion within approximately 30 mins which leaves me doubting that a WP:BEFORE search has been conducted, let alone one that includes native language sources . DCsansei ( talk ) 12:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Nominator comment: As stated in the nomination, these were all PRODs that were deprodded in rapid succession. My work on these nominations took place before the PROD, not last night when I sent them to AFD. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Procedural keep -- Nominator regularly bypasses WP:BEFORE searches (see 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 , 10 , etc. within the past week) and fails to address WP:GNG in his nominations. Regardless, 50 AfDs in 30 minutes is wholly inappropriate. JTtheOG ( talk ) 00:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
List of first-class cricket centuries by W. G. Grace: For example, Jack Hobbs does not have a page for his fc centuries. For convention, this has beend done for cricketers having more than 25 international centuries . Hence, this article should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharaoh496 ( talk • contribs ) 06:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3 ). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 April 13 . — cyberbot I Talk to my owner :Online 02:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople , Cricket , Lists , and England . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 04:20, 13 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep I understand the motive for this nomination, given we usually have limit the number of articles like this to record holders for nations etc, but given Grace is probably one of the games greatest players, and one of the players instrumental in the development of the game an article like this, which is incredibly well sourced and deemed good enough to be a featured article is good enough to keep it. There is coverage in articles of his hundreds also, whether in biographies, or more recently in debate whether or not one of many of his hundreds were first class. Rugbyfan22 ( talk ) 09:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] There would be as good players. People can make properly sources articles - but its first class, and not international test cricket; not being as notable Pharaoh496 ( talk ) 09:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] This is irrelevant, as there's significant coverage of his centuries. Rugbyfan22 ( talk ) 17:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Don’t make rules by your own. It doesn’t matter if he’s the highest century scorer or not. The minimum threshold of 25 int. centuries is an informal guideline. The fact is that his centuries have been discussed and received coverage in multiple books and online articles. Clearly satisfies the criteria of WP:NLIST and WP:GNG . Robo Cric Let's chat 14:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep his centuries are covered in multiple books, and therefore passes WP:GNG and WP:NLIST , particularly One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines . Joseph 2302 ( talk ) 08:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep - Notable Page and clearly passes WP:GNG coverage. 103.121.36.100 ( talk ) 03:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC) . [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
Freight Farms: Doesn't pass WP:CORP . Four of the references are from the company's own webpage and one is from Kickstarter. The only real source is BI. Uhooep ( talk ) 13:45, 7 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep Some coverage from an NPR story [56] . With the BI article, I think we're ok. Needs a rewrite though. Oaktree b ( talk ) 14:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions . A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count ) 14:41, 7 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions . A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count ) 14:42, 7 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep When I created the article years ago I referenced the ample coverage in reliable sources at https://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2013/06/27/grow-produce-anywhere-in-freight-farms-60000-truck/? sh=321f4d0e4cb0 and https://newatlas.com/freight-farms-cropbox-shipping-container-farms/36689/ but the current version seems to not have those. I click the news search at the top of the AFD and I easily find https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/apr/16/boston-organic-food-farming-agriculture-startups and https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-17/boston-based-freight-farms-takes-high-density-urban-farming-to-a-new-level as well. D r e a m Focus 15:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Analysis of the proposed source material would be quite helpful. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:11, 15 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions . WC Quidditch ☎ ✎ 22:32, 20 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:41, 23 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] Keep The sources listed above by Dream Focus (which need to be re-added to the article) are sufficient to pass the WP:SIGCOV test. A. Randomdude0000 ( talk ) 17:21, 23 September 2023 (UTC) [ reply ] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review ). No further edits should be made to this page. | keep |
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This dataset contains Deletion discussions for Wikipedia articles with their resolutions as corresponding labels. The dataset contains 3 fields: Title of the Article, Deletion discussion, and Resolution of the discussion as Label. This is a multi-class classification dataset with the following Labels:
- "keep": The article should be kept as it is.
- "delete": The article should be deleted.
- "merge": The article should be merged with another article. Articles that are short and unlikely to be expanded could be merged into larger articles or lists.
- "redirect": The article should be redirected to another existing article that is a better target for the content.
- "withdraw": The nominator withdraws their nomination for deletion, often due to improvements made to the article during the discussion.
- "no consensus": When there is no clear agreement on the deletion discussion.
- "speedy keep": The article should be kept and there are reasons to bypass deletion discussions to keep the article immediately
- "speedy delete": The article should be deleted and there are reasons to bypass deletion discussions to delete the article immediately
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