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I am a little confused on all of the models of the 88-89 bonnevilles. I have heard of the LE SE LSE SSE SSEI. Could someone tell me the differences are far as features or performance. I am also curious to know what the book value is for prefereably the 89 model. And how much less than book value can you usually get them for. In other words how much are they in demand this time of year. I have heard that the mid-spring early summer is the best time to buy.

4rec.autos

I'm not familiar at all with the format of these "X-Face:" thingies, but after seeing them in some folks' headers, I've *got* to *see* them (and maybe make one of my own)! I've got "dpg-view" on my Linux box (which displays "uncompressed X-Faces") and I've managed to compile [un]compface too... but now that I'm *looking* for them, I can't seem to find any X-Face:'s in anyones news headers! :-( Could you, would you, please send me your "X-Face:" header? I *know* I'll probably get a little swamped, but I can handle it. ...I hope.

6comp.windows.x

In a word, yes.

14alt.atheism

They were attacking the Iraqis to drive them out of Kuwait, a country whose citizens have close blood and business ties to Saudi citizens. And me thinks if the US had not helped out the Iraqis would have swallowed Saudi Arabia, too (or at least the eastern oilfields). And no Muslim country was doing much of anything to help liberate Kuwait and protect Saudi Arabia; indeed, in some masses of citizens were demonstrating in favor of that butcher Saddam (who killed lotsa Muslims), just because he was killing, raping, and looting relatively rich Muslims and also thumbing his nose at the West. So how would have *you* defended Saudi Arabia and rolled back the Iraqi invasion, were you in charge of Saudi Arabia??? I think that it is a very good idea to not have governments have an official religion (de facto or de jure), because with human nature like it is, the ambitious and not the pious will always be the ones who rise to power. There are just too many people in this world (or any country) for the citizens to really know if a leader is really devout or if he is just a slick operator. You make it sound like these guys are angels, Ilyess. (In your clarinet posting you edited out some stuff; was it the following???) Friday's New York Times reported that this group definitely is more conservative than even Sheikh Baz and his followers (who think that the House of Saud does not rule the country conservatively enough). The NYT reported that, besides complaining that the government was not conservative enough, they have: - asserted that the (approx. 500,000) Shiites in the Kingdom are apostates, a charge that under Saudi (and Islamic) law brings the death penalty. Diplomatic guy (Sheikh bin Jibrin), isn't he Ilyess? - called for severe punishment of the 40 or so women who drove in public a while back to protest the ban on women driving. The guy from the group who said this, Abdelhamoud al-Toweijri, said that these women should be fired from their jobs, jailed, and branded as prostitutes. Is this what you want to see happen, Ilyess? I've heard many Muslims say that the ban on women driving has no basis in the Qur'an, the ahadith, etc. Yet these folks not only like the ban, they want these women falsely called prostitutes? If I were you, I'd choose my heroes wisely, Ilyess, not just reflexively rally behind anyone who hates anyone you hate. - say that women should not be allowed to work. - say that TV and radio are too immoral in the Kingdom. Now, the House of Saud is neither my least nor my most favorite government on earth; I think they restrict religious and political reedom a lot, among other things. I just think that the most likely replacements for them are going to be a lot worse for the citizens of the country. But I think the House of Saud is feeling the heat lately. In the last six months or so I've read there have been stepped up harassing by the muttawain (religious police---*not* government) of Western women not fully veiled (something stupid for women to do, IMO, because it sends the wrong signals about your morality). And I've read that they've cracked down on the few, home-based expartiate religious gatherings, and even posted rewards in (government-owned) newspapers offering money for anyone who turns in a group of expartiates who dare worship in their homes or any other secret place. So the government has grown even more intolerant to try to take some of the wind out of the sails of the more-conservative opposition. As unislamic as some of these things are, they're just a small taste of what would happen if these guys overthrow the House of Saud, like they're trying to in the long run. Is this really what you (and Rached and others in the general west-is-evil-zionists-rule-hate-west-or-you-are-a-puppet crowd) want, Ilyess?

2talk.politics.mideast

I've just spent two solid months arguing that no such thing as an objective moral system exists.

8talk.religion.misc

Elisabeth, let's set the record straight for the nth time, I have not read "The Yeast Connection". So anything that I say is not due to brainwashing by this "hated" book. It's okay I guess to hate the book, by why hate me? Elisabeth, I'm going to quote from Zinsser's Microbiology, 20th Edition. A book that you should be familiar with and not "hate". "Candida species colonize the mucosal surfaces of all humans during birth or shortly thereafter. The risk of endogenous infection is clearly ever present. Indeed, candidiasis occurs worldwide and is the most common systemic mycosis." Neutrophils play the main role in preventing a systemic infection(candidiasis) so you would have to have a low neutrophil count or "sick" neutrophils to see a systemic infection. Poor diet and persistent parasitic infestation set many third world residents up for candidiasis. Your assessment of candidiasis in the U.S. is correct and I do not dispute it. What I posted was a discussion of candida blooms, without systemic infection. These blooms would be responsible for local sites of irritation (GI tract, mouth, vagina and sinus cavity). Knocking down the bacterial competition for candida was proposed as a possible trigger for candida blooms. Let me quote from Zinsser's again: "However, some factors, such as the use of a broad-spectrum antibacterial antibiotic, may predispose to both mucosal and systemic infections". I was addressing mucosal infections (I like the term blooms better). The nutrition course that I teach covers this effect of antibiotic treatment as well as the "cure". I guess that your nutrition course does not, too bad. My, my Elisabeth, do I detect a little of Steve Dyer in you? If you noticed my faculty rank, I'm a biochemist, not a microbiologist. Candida is classifed as a fungus(according to Zinsser's). But, as you point out, it displays dimorphism. It is capable of producing yeast cells, pseudohyphae and true hyphae. Elisabeth, you are probably a microbiologist and that makes a lot of sense to you. To a biochemist, it's a lot of Greek. So I called it a yeast-like fungus, go ahead and crucify me. You know Elisabeth, I still haven't been able to figure out why such a small little organism like Candida can bring out so much hostility in people in Sci. Med. And I must admitt that I got sucked into the mud slinging too. I keep hoping that if people will just take the time to think about what I've said, that it will make sense. I'm not asking anyone here to buy into "The Yeast Connection" book because I don't know what's in that book, plain and simple. And to be honest with you, I'm beginning to wish that it was never written.

9sci.med

Dishonest money dwindles away, but he who gathers money little by little makes it grow. Proverbs 13:11

18soc.religion.christian

A friend of mine managed to get a copy of a computerised Greek and Hebrew Lexicon called "The Word Perfect" (That is not the word processing package WordPerfect). However, some one wiped out the EXE file, and she has not been able to restore it. There are no distributors of the package in South Africa. I would appreciate it, if some one could email me the file, or at least tell me where I could get it from. My email address is fortmann@superbowl.und.ac.za or fortmann@shrike.und.ac.za Many thanks.

18soc.religion.christian

Hi, We have a requirement for dynamically closing and opening different display servers within an X application in a manner such that at any time there is only one display associated with the client. Assumming a proper cleanup is done during the transition should we anticipate any problems.

6comp.windows.x

: : well, i have lots of experience with scanning in images and altering : them. as for changing them back into negatives, is that really possible? : (stuff deleted) : jennifer urso: the oh-so bitter woman of utter blahness(but cheerful : undertones) I use Aldus Photostyler on the PC and I can turn a colour or black and white image into a negative or turn a negative into a colour or black and white image. I don't know how it does it but it works well. To test it I scanned a negative and used Aldus to create a positive. It looked better than the print that the film developers gave me. --

7comp.graphics

I have uploaded the Windows On-Line Review shareware edition to ftp.cica.indiana.edu as /pub/pc/win3/uploads/wolrs7.zip. It is an on-line magazine which contains reviews of some shareware products...I grabbed it from the Windows On-Line BBS. --

17comp.os.ms-windows.misc

Most graphics systems I have seen have drawing routines that also specify a color for drawing, like Drawpoint(x,y,color) or Drawline(x1,y1,x2,y2,color) or Fillrectangle(x1,y1,x2,y2,color) With X, I have to do something like XSetForeground(current_color) XDrawPoint(d,w,x,y) Why split this into two functions? Why did X designers decide to not associate the color with the object being drawn, and instead associate it with the display it is being drawn on?

6comp.windows.x

You *know* that putting something like this out on the newsgroup is *only* going to generate flames, not discussion. Try adding some substance to the issue of "gestures" you mentioned. What is it you feel that Israel *has* offered as a "gesture"? What would you (*realistically*) expect to see presented by the Arabs/Palestinians in the way of "gesture"? What are the "rules" that have been bent by Arab actions? It would seem that the Israeli deportations were seen by the other side as an example of "changing the rules".

2talk.politics.mideast

Accusation? I thought it was a recommendation. (I mean, I did grow up there, I oughta know). Bring the truck and about 10 pounds of crawfish and we'll talk.

0rec.motorcycles

Probably because it IS rape. So nothing. It may work for some, but not for others: it doesn't give any insight into an overall God or overall truth of a religion- it would seem to be dependent solely on the individual, as well as individually-created. And since Christians have failed to show us how there way of life is in any wy better than ours, I do not see why the attempt to try it is necessary, or even particularly attractive. Well, we will nerver know for sure if we were told the truth or not, but at the very least there is a bit more evidence pointing to the fact that, say, there was a military conflict in Vietnam 25 years ago, then there is a supernatural diety who wants us to live a certain way. The fact that Jesus warned against it means nothing. *I* warn against it too. Big deal. This is not true. The first two choices here (life and death) are scantily documented, and the last one is total malarky unless one uses the Bible, and that is totally circular. Perhaps it be better to use the imagination, or one's ignorance. Someone else will address this I'm sure, and refer you to plenty of documentation... How is this? There is nothing more disgusting than Christian attempts to manipulate/interpret the Old Testament as being filled with signs for the coming of Christ. Every little reference to a stick or bit of wood is autmoatically interpreted as the Cross. What a miscarriage of philology. Well, since we have skeptical hearts (thank goodness,) there is no way to get into us. Here we have the irreconcilable difference: Christians glorify exactly what we tend to despise or snub: trust/belief/faith without knowledge. If I am lucky one day and I happen to be thinking of God at the same time my enkephalins go up, then I may associate this as a sign of God (it will "feel" right, and I will trust without knowing). Maybe. Religosity does not seem to be anything that is conclusively arrived at, but rather it seems to be more of a sudden affliction... I believe many of us were willing to die for what we believed, many of us were not. The question is, is suchg an attitude reflective of a _correct_ or healthy morality. IT would seem not to be. The same thing could reflect fanaticism, for example, and is any case an expression of simple selfishness. -- --Adam

14alt.atheism

From article <C68uBG.K2w@world.std.com>, by cfw@world.std.com (Christopher F Wroten): Good question. Answer: The EISA bus does move 32 bits rather than ISA's 8/(16?) But it still moves it at about the speed as the ISA bus. I think that's either 8 or 10 mhz. The local bus designs also move 32 bits like the EISA, but they move the data at the cpu speed, up to 40 mhz. So, on a 33mhz cpu, the local bus is moving 32bit data at 33 mhz, and the EISA is moving 32bit data at 8 or 10 mhz. So the local bus should be 3 to 4 times faster than EISA on a 33 mhz cpu. EISA should be about two (maybe 3) times as fast as ISA. That's a very good question. The EISA bus does have more advantages over the ISA bus than just it's width. For example: more/better interrupts and bus mastering. But these other factors do not impact a video card very much. They have more impact on file servers with multiple hard drives, full-throttle network cards, cd-roms, etc.

17comp.os.ms-windows.misc

Iv'e got a problem printing with a StyleWriterII. I am printing from a IIvx with 20 megs ram. I am trying to print a Quark file that has 2 fonts a couple of boxes and 3 gradient fills. Two things happen: I get a " Disk is full" error, that I can't find documented, I also have parts of letters that are over one of the gradient fills get cut off. This only happens to the text over the fill. Text adjecent in a different box is uneffected. Any ideas?

10comp.sys.mac.hardware

Hello, i'm interested in those devices too. Could also send me your suggestions. Thank in advance. Regards. --

7comp.graphics

I said what a SILLY boy i was, now i have zillions of messages like "does that include shipping" "is it scsi" "what rom version is it" "will it work on a maximegalon gargantuabrain 9000" ok, the deal is this - if you live in the twin cities, email me, and set up a time, sure, you can drop round and grab one for a tenner. Else Min order $20 (2 drives) + shipping. No guarantees they are good for any purpose at all (they look newish & clean), no technical negotiations. They are model 525 floppytape, part # 960273-639 revision D. 17 pin floppy style connector on the back Else They go in the bin - life is too short for extended negotiations over $10 items :-) cheers Mike.

1misc.forsale

I just called Texas' legislative bill tracking service and found out that HB 1776 (Concealed Carry) is scheduled for a floor vote TODAY! Let those phone calls roll in. Daryl

19talk.politics.guns

This is an invitation to send articles to the Informatica magazine. The first fully international issue has been published and echoes are quite favourable. For any information, contact (matjaz.gams@ijs.si). Dear Colleague, April 25, 1993 Number 1 of volume 17 of Informatica is now out of print and some of you will receive it in a week or so. As you will see, the journal is structured in the following way: the editorial (first page); profiles (second page -- biography of an editor, in this issue, Terry Winograd); the edited part of papers (pp. 3-80); mission and research reports (A plan for knowledge archives project in Japan and CSLI in Stanford, pp. 81-100); and news and announcements (pp. 101-108). This structure is mentioned to give you a suggestion how could you help to make the contents of the journal significant, diverse, and interesting, bringing your own views into the discourse. A great emphasis is given to the so-called editorial page. This page expresses an opinion (belief) of the writing editor to some problems within the scope of computing and informatics, extending into other concerning disciplines, e.g. cybernetics, advanced AI, cognitive sciences, mind, informationally concerned neural sciences, advanced technology (e.g. photonics), etc. I asked professor Terry Winograd to write this page for Number 2. I certainly would appreciate very much to get suggestions or possible offers from other editors, who like to express their strong (directed) beliefs concerning a future development of the area in question. On the second page of each Number an editor's profile is published. The aim of the profile is twofold: to show his/her professional achievements, interests, scientific, and philosophical orientation on one side; to narrate his/her life story in the environments in which editors has lived and live on the other side. This kind of story should be instructive, adequately factically faced, contributing to the understanding of circumstances in which editors have to act and live. The edited part (edited papers) is still critical. I would like to have a stock of accepted papers in advance, so the issuing dates of a particular number can be fixed (e.g. January, April, July, and October). In situation right now, I ask you to help me with contributions of yours or your colleagues, collaborators, students, etc. Some critical views to the contemporary development of computing and informatics are appreciated. A special emphasis should be given also to originality by which fresh ideas are coming into the circulation of different professional communities. Reports of different occasions (symposia, conferences, meetings, etc.) and particularly on new books, papers, and interesting events are welcome. You can send these news immediately (also by your secretary) by e-mail. On the other hand, you can send books and other publications (annual reports, journals, calls for papers, etc.) for reviewing and publishing in Informatica. We in the editorial staff will manage the rest. E-mail is functioning satisfactorily, so please use it in every respect. You can submit editorial notes, profiles, reports, news and even complete papers written in standard LaTex format (especially formulas). We received several final (corrected) texts in Number 1 from different sites (US, Russia, etc.). In this way, you can compose reports from already typed texts, using your own choice and editing, and submit them to the contact person (matjaz.gams@ijs.si), who is always being on your disposal. So, you will receive a prompt confirmation and any information concerning our common interest and job. At the end, please do not forget: we need your cooperation and help in every mentioned respect. The aim of Informatica is to open various possibilities of communication concerning strong scientific and philosophical orientations as well as those coming up, still unrevealed, and on the way to become significant. Please, do not apprehend to give proposals, suggestions, and, certainly, contributions via the e-mail and by other means. Sincerely yours,

7comp.graphics

********************* NEW PRICE *********** I have an extra copy of Lotus 1-2-3 ver 3.4 for DOS. this package was originally $600. I'd like to get $75 for it. please reply by e-mail to jth@bach.udel.edu

1misc.forsale

Bosnian Muslims are citizens od Bosnia-Herzegovina who identify themselves with Bosnian Muslim cultural and religious tradition. In Bosnia, "Muslim" is not merely a religious category, but an ethnic one as well. Actually, here are the two contradictory arguments made by people on this subject: (1) There is only Serbian and Croatian nationality, and Bosnian Muslims are simply Croats and Serbs of Islamic faith. (2) Bosnian Muslims are a separate nationality since they do not feel themselves to be Croats nor Serbs. In 1968, argument (2) was accepted by former Yugoslavia as valid, and (1) was soundly rejected. The reasons are pragmatic: even if Bosnian Muslims are Croats and Serbs who converted to Islam under Turkish rule centuries ago, none of the present generation has any clue what was their ancestor's actual nationality. In fact, although Bosnian Muslims have felt drawn to Croatian or Serbian national allegiance, most of them feel they have a separate cultural and historic identity. So, arguments like "yes, but your ancestors were Croats or Serbs" carry very little weight. Regardless of what their ancestors might have been, as long as Bosnian Muslims feel that they are a separate national group, that ends the debate. What outsiders say is simply not relevant. In the case of former Yugoslavia, the date is 1971, when "Muslim nationality" appeared as a census category for the first time. This was the result of a sequence of decisions over the past decade, from recognizing "Bosniaks" as an ethnic group (1961) to February 1968 resolution (in B-H) declaring that Muslims are a separate nation, to formal endorsement of this in January 1969, and eventually to the 1971 inclusion of "Muslim nationality" choice in census forms. For comparison, in 1948 census there were three national categories available to Muslims in Bosnia-Herzegovina: Serb-Muslims: 71,991 Croat-Muslims: 25,295 Muslims, ethnically undeclared: 788,403 This clearly demonstrates that Muslims feel themselves to be their own nationality. Only a tiny minority felt able to choose Serb or Croat nationality. Census results show that Bosnian Muslims have consistently opted for a third category: in 1948 they chose "undeclared", in 1953 they chose "Yugoslavs", in 1961 both "Yugoslavs" and "Bosniak ethnic group", and in 1971, 1981 and 1991 they chose "Muslim nationality". Perhaps the term "Bosnian Muslim nationality" is too confusing for the rest of the world. But, in the present context, we ARE talking about Muslims as nationality; not as a religous group within some separate national identity. The reasons are mostly historical and cultural. Religion plays a smaller role, as a part of culture in general, because the area is simply not known for religious fanaticism. Political fanaticism, yes; religious fanaticism, no. Group security and survival dominate people's thinking; not fine points of theology. In fact, Bosnia-Herzegovina is as well known for religious tolerance in peacetime as it is known for terrible carnage in wartime.

2talk.politics.mideast

Why not design the solar arrays to be detachable. if the shuttle is going to retunr the HST, what bother are some arrays. just fit them with a quick release. one space walk, or use the second canadarm to remove the arrays.

12sci.space

A couple of points :- I have an Adaptec 1542B and am very happy with it. Not so! I have both IDE and an Adaptec1542B in the same box and can use both disks at the same time, eg. IDE to SCSI disk copy. Well, one statement and one correction! Guy

5comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

Hi sci.med folks... I would like to know anything you folks can tell me regarding Lithium. I have a 10 year old son that lives with my ex-wife. She has been having difficulty with his behavior and has had him on Ritalin, Tofranil, and now wants to try Lithuim at the local doctors suggestion. I would like to know whatever is important that I should know. I worry about this sort of thing and would like pros/cons regarding Lithium therapy. I have a booklet from the "Lithium Information Center" based at the University of Wisconsin, but feel that it is pro-lithium and would be interested in comments from the "not necessarily PRO" side of the fence. I am a concerned father and just wish to be well informed... Thanks for any information you can provide. Please email me directly...

9sci.med

It is said that CELP vocoders can run on the highest speed 486s with some room to spare -- they turn 64kbit (8 bit samples, 8k samples/sec) into 4800 baud. However, DSP is hairy, and I have yet to see actual proof of this in the form of an implementation. I have heard fairly reliable rumors to the effect that a famous internetworking guru has a CELP implementation that runs on Sparcstation 1+'s with some room to spare, but I have not succeeded thus far in getting my hands on a copy -- the guru in question has a reputation for not releasing code without having beaten on it for a very very long time first. DSP experts are heavily encouraged to try their own hand at this problem. -- Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com

3sci.crypt

I have a 90 Eagle Talon and I wanted a pair of GTS Headlight covers. Actually, they are turning signal covers since the Talons that year had pop-up lights. I went to a auto shop and bought the tail-light blackouts for $45, but they did not have the turning signal covers in stock. I asked how much it would be and he told me it would cost me another $40. I thought this was a bit high for two small pieces of plastic. Can anyone find me a cheaper pair or even a used one?

4rec.autos

Hi, I need your help with a problem I have with a 1989 Mitsubishi Galant GS transmission. The car has a 5 speed manual tranmission. Since the car was bought new, while shifting from 2nd to 3rd, unless I do it SLOWLY and carefully, it makes a "popping" or "hitting" sound. The dealer and Mitsubishi customer service (reached by an 800 #) say this is NORMAL for the car. IS IT? And about a year ago, at 35Kmiles, the stick shift handle got STUCK while attempting to put it in reverse: 1- The shifter would not budge. The clutch had no effect. 2- The front tires would not budge, even when the clutch is fully depressed. 3- If the clutch is released the engine would die. 4- Assuming that some gear was engaged while the shifter was stuck, I could not make the car move. It acted as if it were in Neutral(except for dying when clutch is released.) 5- I finally was able to release the shifter by having someone rock the car back and forth (less than an inch), while I depressed the clutch and jiggled the shifter. 6- The shifter acted normally after that. When this happened, I took it to the dealer, they checked the clutch, it was o.k. They checked the transmission, it was o.k. I had the exact problem a couple of months ago, and again last week. The dealer says there is nothing they can do because Mitsubishi (the 800 #) says they have never heard of the problem, and the dealer could not reproduce the problem while they had the car. In all three occurances, the car was parked head first in a garage, and since the front wheels were stuck, the car could not be towed to the dealer before releasing the shifter (hence temporarily solving the problem). And the dealer, and Mitsubishi, refused to send someone to check the car while it was stuck. I KNOW there is smething wrong with the transmission (shifting from 2nd to 3rd), and getting stuck at random, but I can't get the dealer to fix it. I need your help with the mechanical problems, and with how to handle Mitsubishi. All hints and suggestions are greatly appreciated, and sorry to bore you with the long post.

4rec.autos

I don't know about Canada, but I have heard from people doing translation work in Papua New Quinea, that they like them and have had good response on service. Another is seriously considering buying one.

5comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

I am writing a X-based dosemu which requires XKeyReleasedEvent. I found the keycode of XKeyReleasedEvent is wrong. If I run the program on a Linux host(XFree1.2) with DISPLAY set to the local Linux and to the Sun host (X11R5), the two keycodes from the two Xservers are different. Of course, the keycode of XKeyPressedEvent is O.K. Can anybody verify this ? Did I do anything wrong ? Thanks.

6comp.windows.x

A while back (i.e., several months) someone posted a method for allowing a user to choose (via XMenu and something else??) a window manager interactively at X startup time. Could the original poster (or anyone else) please Email a copy of the method to me, as I have lost the original posting? Thanks. ______________________________________________________________________________ Henry Stilmack ) Computing Systems Manager ) Perform random kindnesses UK/Netherlands/Canada Joint Astronomy Centre ) and senseless acts of beauty 660 N. A'ohoku Place, Hilo, HI 96720 ) hps@jach.Hawaii.Edu 808-969-6530 )

6comp.windows.x

I'm trying to find a program that will stop the Macs from spitting out their Boot Disk. I was told one exists but I can't find it. Anyone know where I can find it? Thanks Robert Harvey Duty Programmer Information Technology Victoria University

10comp.sys.mac.hardware

Recently, I have been getting a CMOS Checksum error when I first turn on my computer. It doesn't happen everytime I turn it on, nor can I predict when it is going to happen. I have an AMI BIOS and all of the setting are lost, for example the drive types and the password options. However, the date and time remain correct. If anyone knows what can be causing this, please let me know.

5comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

Forwarded from Neal Ausman, Galileo Mission Director GALILEO MISSION DIRECTOR STATUS REPORT POST-LAUNCH April 23 - 29, 1993 SPACECRAFT 1. On April 22 and 23, delta Differenced One-way Range (DOR) passes were performed over DSS-14/63 (Goldstone/Madrid 70 meter antennas) and DSS-14/43 (Goldstone/Canberra 70 meter antennas), respectively. Initial results indicate the delta DOR pass on April 22 was unsuccessful due to ground station hardware problems but the one on April 23 was successfully performed. 2. On April 23, a cruise science Memory Readout (MRO) was performed for the Magnetometer (MAG) instrument. Analysis indicates the data was received properly. 3. On April 23, the spare power relay contacts were commanded closed via the spacecraft stored sequence. These relays were commanded closed by the CDS (Command Data Subsystem) prior to launch and were again commanded closed to preclude the possibility at Jupiter of the PPS relays/wiring being a source of internal electrostatic charge (IESD). 4. On April 26, cruise science Memory Readouts (MRO) were performed for the Extreme Ultraviolet Spectrometer (EUV), Dust Detector (DDS), and Magnetometer (MAG) instruments. Preliminary analysis indicates the data was received properly. 5. During the period from April 26 to April 27, a navigation cycle was performed. This navigation cycle provided near-continuous acquisition of two-way doppler and ranging data during three consecutive passes of the spacecraft over DSS-63, DSS-14, and DSS-43. 6. On April 26, real-time commands were sent to test slew the Radio Relay Antenna (RRA) in preparation for the mini-sequence slew test on April 28. The RRA was slewed from approximately 3.5 degrees from stow to approximately 20.3 degrees. Preliminary analysis indicated the antenna slewed to about 18 degrees which was well within the predicted range. The RRA was commanded back to approximately 15.2 degrees from stow. Preliminary analysis indicated the antenna reached about 15.8 degrees also well within the predicted range. The RRA motor temperature was at 1 degree C at the start of the activity and had increased to 1.6 degrees C at its completion. After verifying proper RRA slewing, the RRA slew test mini-sequence was uplinked to the spacecraft for execution on April 28. Upon successful uplink, a Delayed Action Command (DAC) was sent which will reposition the stator on May 4 to its initial pre-test position. Also, a DAC was sent to turn the Two-Way Noncoherent (TWNC) on April 28 prior to the start of the RRA slew test mini-sequence. 7. On April 27, a NO-OP command was sent to reset the command loss timer to 264 hours, its planned value during this mission phase. 8. On April 28, the RRA slew test executed nominally. The spacecraft under stored sequence control performed six RRA slews starting at about 16 degrees from stow and going to 53 degrees, back to 25 degrees, then to 51 degrees, back to 22 degrees, then to 48 degrees and then back to 21 degrees. All of the slews were well within the predicted range. The RRA motor temperature was at 2.3 degrees C at the start of the activity and had increased to 4.4 degrees C at its completion. After completion of the RRA slews, real-time commands were sent to reconfigure back to the pre-test configuration. 9. The AC/DC bus imbalance measurements have not exhibited significant change (greater than 25 DN) throughout this period. The AC measurement reads 17 DN (3.9 volts). The DC measurement reads 134 DN (15.7 volts). These measurements are consistent with the model developed by the AC/DC special anomaly team. 10. The Spacecraft status as of April 29, 1993, is as follows: a) System Power Margin - 75 watts b) Spin Configuration - Dual-Spin c) Spin Rate/Sensor - 3.15rpm/Star Scanner d) Spacecraft Attitude is approximately 23 degrees off-sun (lagging) and 4 degrees off-earth (leading) e) Downlink telemetry rate/antenna- 40bps(coded)/LGA-1 f) General Thermal Control - all temperatures within acceptable range g) RPM Tank Pressures - all within acceptable range h) Orbiter Science- Instruments powered on are the PWS, EUV, UVS, EPD, MAG, HIC, and DDS i) Probe/RRH - powered off, temperatures within acceptable range j) CMD Loss Timer Setting - 264 hours Time To Initiation - 203 hours GDS (Ground Data Systems): 1. The first Galileo-GDS test of the MGDS V18.0 Command System (CMD) took place April 27, 1993 with DSS-61 (Madrid 34 meter antenna). The test went well and demonstrated that the new command system interfaced with the new DSN (Deep Space Network) Group 5 Command Processor Assembly (CPA). The test was successful and the next test for V18.0 CMD is scheduled for May 1, 1993 with DSS-15 (Goldstone 34 meter antenna). 2. The April System Engineers Monthly Report(SEMR)/Ground System Development Office (GSDO) MMR was conducted Thursday, April 29. A review of current Project and Institutional (DSN and MOSO) system status was conducted. On-going cruise development plus the GSDO Phase 1 and 2 delivery schedules, past months accomplishments and potential problem areas were discussed. No significant schedule changes or significant problems were reported. TRAJECTORY As of noon Thursday, April 29, 1993, the Galileo Spacecraft trajectory status was as follows: Distance from Earth 187,745,300 km (1.26 AU) Distance from Sun 296,335,800 km (1.98 AU) Heliocentric Speed 89,100 km per hour Distance from Jupiter 522,015,800 km Round Trip Light Time 20 minutes, 58 seconds SPECIAL TOPIC

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[stuff deleted] I have a similiar question relating to anti-alaising that my friend has asked to have posted to the more knowledgable in this group. I'm sorry if this is an FAQ. "What anti-alaising methods do Persistance Of Vision & Polyray use?" Thank you in advance. You can either email me or reply (or flame me if it is an FAQ :-) )

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} Last night, Boston Red Sox win its 11 games of 14 games by beating Seattle } 5-2. Roger Clemson pitch not so dominate. He walked at least 6 man in } first 6 inns. But Valetin and Greenwell hit homeruns and Red Sox prevail. Clemens struggled with his control, but was also the "beneficiary" of some pretty shoddy umpiring. but to be fair, most of the walks were early in the game, and he adjusted. he was also helped by (dare i say it?) some pretty good defense by the Sox, including Rivera playing at second, not his normal position. actually, Clemens is pretty lucky that he got the win, considering the Sox almost gave up the lead in the bottom of the 7th on Mo's error catching a throw-over. } I think that game is must win for Red Sox in Seattle, considering Darwin will } faced Seattle ace Randy Johnson tonight. must win? in April? they've already won 4 more games so far than anyone thought they would at this point of the season... i hope people aren't getting too caught up in this streak; it's been fun, but teams have 11-3 streaks all the time, and it is only when they are at the start of the season that they get so much attention.

11rec.sport.baseball

Is there any third party video ram adapter for vewing 24 bit color on LCII? I heard that Apple is selling it aroung 160$. Please e-mail me. Thanks. Young youyj@mace.cc.purdue.edu

10comp.sys.mac.hardware

I have a mac LCII 4/80 purchased last august. Just the cpu and mouse... no monitor or keyboard. $800 OBO

1misc.forsale

Does any one know of a decent quality library of routines for performing 3D graphics modelling on the PC? Ideally the routines would be embeded in our application program. Requirements (wish list): - flat surface modelling (simple phong shading optional) - ability to plot hidden-line drawings - Texture mapping -- both procedural and bit map - modeling light sources (local, distant, and spot lights) - Ray-tracing - Radiosity (optional) Any comments would be appreciated. John Chinnick -- jchinnic@mach1.wlu.ca phone : (519) 888-9666

7comp.graphics

ERGINEL) asked: [EE] No, no flaming here. Just a simple question. ...with a simple answer! [EE] As far as I know most of the Armenians belong to the Gregorian Orthodox [EE] faith and such was the case in nineteenth century Ottoman Empire. It is [EE] also known that some Armenian communities were converted into Catholicism [EE] and Protestantism by the Western European missionaries in this period. The vast majority of Armenians in eastern Anatolia were Gregorian or Armenian Apostolic. There was, however, a higher percentage of non-Gregorian Armenians in Cilicia, closer to the Mediterranean, in Adana, Marash, Aintab, etc. [EE] Another known fact is that almost half of the Armenians living in Anatolia [EE] did not speak any Armenian, but used Turkish in their everyday lives. This is not true. While it was forbidden for Armenians to speak Armenian in certain areas of Cilician Armenia, most all Armenians spoke Armenian. In fact, Turks who interacted with Armenians also spoke Armenian! For sure, most all Armenians, especially men, also knew Turkish in order to function in larger society. [EE] My question is, given so many separations in the Armenian community, what [EE] was the common denominator of the Armenian people that allowed Armenian [EE] nationalism to emerge in the nineteenth century? As I stated, religion [EE] was not uniform (unlike the Greeks) and many Armenians couldn't even speak [EE] Armenian. I would like to know what factors brought the Armenians in the [EE] Ottoman Empire together and led to the formation of an Armenian [EE] consciousness. The Armenians in Turkey were persecuted because they were Armenian, regardless of the specific branch of Christianity they professed. The resultant Armenian nationalism was in direct reaction to this persecution. Even at the later stages of WWI, and after the genocide, many Armenians who were converted to Islam were also exterminated because they continued as Armenian Moslems. This practice continued well into the 1920s by Ataturk in parallel with the policy of clearing out pockets of steadfast Islamic fundamentalism. Many of these converted Armenians, ironically, in order to stay alive, were staunch Moslems. [EE] Any information will be appreciated. You answered your own question! The common thread throughout your inquiry was the word Armenian! [EE] Regards,

2talk.politics.mideast

Yamanari, ---Hey isn't it funny how betas have bugs in them.... Hey...do me a favor and don't put up stupid posts.

17comp.os.ms-windows.misc

They don't. It's a closed access road, you pay to get in (if you don't have a resident sticker), and they simply don't open the gates if you're on a bike.

0rec.motorcycles

I have a little question: I need to convert RGB-coded (Red-Green-Blue) colors into HVS-coded (Hue-Value-Saturnation) colors. Does anyone know which formulas to use? Thanks!

7comp.graphics

Tom Clancy omitted these key steps to try to prevent groups of people from building a nuclear bomb. However, he asserts that you can find these key steps in any university library. The main point of _Five Minutes To Midnight_ is that it is impossible to prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons, since it has become easy to acquire the knowledge to build one, and fissible materials are nearly impossible to control. Read this article, or better yet, run to your library yourself and dig up some stuff on constructing a nuclear weapon. Doug Holland

3sci.crypt

I've done a bit of looking, and havn't been able to come up with a mailing list or newsgroup for users of Adobe Photoshop. Assuming I've just not missed it, I'll go ahead and see if there is enough interest to start a mailing list (and/or alt. newsgroup). Drop me a note if you might be interested in subscribing. THANKS! --Bob Wier (NOT of the Grateful Dead :-)

7comp.graphics

The "artist renderings" that I've seen of the HST reboost still have the arrays fully extended, with a cradle holding HST at a ~30 degree angle to the Shuttle. I think the rendering was conceived before the array replacemnet was approved, so I'm not sure if the current reboost will occur with the arrays deployed or not. However, it doesn't appear that an array retraction was necessary for reboost. Thanks for the input on GRO's S/A design constraints. That would explain the similar design on UARS. Heck, the MMS project used to design _missions_ with servicing in mind. The XTE spacecraft was originally designed as an on-orbit replacement for the instrument module on EUVE. That way, you get two instruments for the price of one spacecraft bus (the Explorer Platform). A second on-orbit replacement was also considered, with the FUSE telescope.

12sci.space

There should be no problem with this - just remember to get the number of wait states correct! Guy

5comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

: I have seen various references to 'triple des' recently. Could anyone : tell me what it is ? From context, I would guess that it means : encrypting each block 3 times, with a different key each time, but : I'd like to be sure. : Replies by email preferred - our news is unreliable. Could people replying to the above question post their responses here as well, as I'm sure others (including myself) would like to hear them. Thanks. Jon

3sci.crypt

The CLIPPER initiative is an announcement by Clinton that all the "secure" voice phones will use the same crypto chip, as a de-facto government standard. Problem is, the government is admitting that they hold the keys to break the code easily, and the Justice department will be using the keys to listen in on "illegal activities." Many people are really scared about such an initiative because it is a major step towards outlawing real crypto protection on things like email if you read the press release. The project was developed by NSA and given to NIST. It uses two keys S1 and S2 that the government claims are needed to break the code. They claim that these keys will be handed to two different companies, and when they get a warrant to do a wiretap (the chip is nicknamed the wiretap chip), they have to get the keys from both companies. People have poked holes through and through the press release official version and shown how it is nowhere near as nice as it sounds, and I have given the simplified version. People over on sci.crypt are really scared about this proposal it seems.

14alt.atheism

Oh yeah, all the time. On a nice spring/summer day, I roll down the window and drive around looking for bikes. When a bike motors by in the opposite direction, I stick my arm out and hi5'em. My arm feels like a million bucks when I'm doing this a 60km/h. I do the same thing with cyclists. The only problem with hi5ing a cyclist is their always in the right hand lane. I hafta roll down the other window and hi5 them on the back. Oh well, I think they appreciate the thought. Regards, Ted.

0rec.motorcycles

Thanks, Jody. I can't say I've ever seen it summed up so succinctly before. I might only add two things.... stupid road design (or poor, at least) and we deal with it for the fun and *brotherhood* we share with others who take their lives in their hads to feel the wind in their hair....IMHO. Binger

0rec.motorcycles

As I recall from my bout with kidney stones, there isn't any medication that can do anything about them except relieve the pain. Either they pass, or they have to be broken up with sound, or they have to be extracted surgically. When I was in, the X-ray tech happened to mention that she'd had kidney stones and children, and the childbirth hurt less.

9sci.med

Let's be careful here. If players' performance was completely random in (Clutch-No Clutch), then you would still expect some players to be good in the clutch every year and some to be not-so-good every year. With two years worth of data, you'd have 1/4 of the players good each year, 1/4 bad each year, and 1/2 would have one good and one bad year. We have 96 players for 5 years ('84-'88). Just flipping a coin, you'd expect 3 players to be good all 5 years and 3 to be bad every year. This is what we actually get-- No. of good years 0 1 2 3 4 5 Clutch performers 4 10 37 24 18 3 Coin flip (random) 3 15 30 30 15 3 Essentially the distribution of clutch performers by number of years of good performance is the same as what you would get if the process leading to deviations from non-clutch performance was completely random. If there was anything to clutch hitting (at least in this definition) that had any predictive capability, you expect to see the number of players at the ends to be much larger than that predicted by flipping a coin. Further, if you limit yourself to players who were a lot above or below average in clutch situations (say, 1 standard deviation from the mean) more than one year, the random explanation still looks good. In the four years ('84-'87) that I looked at the data from Elias, there were 79 (29) players with a minimum of 25 (50) at bats in clutch situations that were 1 sigma from the mean two different years. Of those 79 (29) players, 38 (14) of them changed sign between the two years. In other words, they were great clutch hitters one year and really horrible the other year. If it was just a random process, you'd expect those numbers to be 39.5 (14.5). Everything that's been measured about clutch hitting over a period of years that could be used to predict any ability with any proposed definition has looked like a random process (with the caveat that there may be something related to platoon advantage that could be dragged out of the data--e.g., John Lowenstein probably never had a "clutch" AB against a left-handed pitcher, but he might well have had some in blowouts, so that there would be a bias since his clutch ABs would be more geared to his platoon advantage). This is not a subject that has been glanced at casually. A lot of people have put a lot of effort into studying it and every one of them, with the exception of the Elias study, has been unable to find anything that would allow you to predict how someone will do in clutch situations better than flipping a coin. (Self-serving plug follows: some of the flaws in the Elias study are discussed in my paper in the forth- coming SABR book, _The Perfect Game_, by Taylor Publishing. The authors are supposed to get a slice of the advance, so go bug your local bookstores now, and maybe I can get enough to take my wife to dinner once.:-) Harold

11rec.sport.baseball

Where can I find it ?

7comp.graphics

Hmmm. I gave two examples which matched your objective criteria, and your response was some subjective claptrap about them being 'lame'. You never did counter the fact that those examples fit your objective criteria. One wonders who's playing semantic games, here. -- Rick Schaut UUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs

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WATCH OUT PITSBURGH HERE COME THE ISLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They said we wouldn't make the playoffs and we came in third They said the Caps would beat us and they're not going to They say that Pitsburgh has a 1:1 ratio of winning the cup but We'll prove them wrong. L E T S G O I S L A N D E R S!!!!!!! Bring it back home

16rec.sport.hockey

Quite a few people couldn't have cared less about what happened to the Jews of Europe. If they had cared, they would have done something. Maybe its because many of us, who have been on usenet for several years remember tripe like this being posted: ------------- This was posted fairly recently. There has been much more racist stuff in the past. Why are we expected to listen to it and remain "calm?" I don't think that listening to racist or anti-semetic slurs is an incitement to calm debate. Perhaps you don't mean to be coming off as highly offensive. However, the way you have posted seems to be typical of those who have an irrational dislike for Israel and Jews. Perhaps if you took a close look at what you've posted thought a bit about the combatative tone you've used, you would see why people are reacting the way they are. Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu

2talk.politics.mideast

This is the AP story from Fri morning. As the walls came tumbling down and tear gas filled the air, cult leader David Koresh sprang into action. He left his third-floor bedroom and began looking around the house, making sure women and children were secure and checking that everyone had their gas masks on properly. Within hours, the compound became an inferno. Nine Branch Davidians excaped. This is their story, gleaned from lawyers who spoke with six of them who are jailed on charges that include conspiracy and murder. That day the six said a portable radio offered the only contact with the outside world since Koresh's right-hand man, Steve Schneider, ripped out the compounds's phone line after FBI agents called before dawn Monday saying this was the cults last chance: Come out or prepare to get forced out. They kept their word. By dawn, tanks were battering the Mount Carmel compound, punching for hours to creat holes for tear gas to enter. The BD meanwhile proceeded with their daily routines. Strapped into gas masks, the women did laundry. Others read Bibles in their rooms. The 17 children, all under 10, remained by their mothers' sides. Still, it was hard to ignore what was happening around them. Each time a tank rammed the poorly-constructed building it shook violently. Cult members dodges falling gypsum wallboard and doors. Hundreds of gas canisters hurled in from the armored vehicles were filling the air with noxious fumes. The flying canisters were more frightening than the tanks. At least one man was hit in the face. The gas began filling the air, driven by heavy gusts of wind coming through windows and the holes the tanks made. Scattered throughout the house, the cult members made no efforts to gather. Then the FBI sent in its biggest weapon -- a massive armored vehicle headed for a chamber, lined with cinder blocks, where authorities hoped to find Koresh and Schneider and fire tear gas directly at them. Here the cult members' story diverges from the government's version. The FBI says cult members set fires in three places. But each of the six cult members, in separate discussions with lawyers, consistently gave versions at odds with the FBI's account. They say the tank flattened a barrel of propane, spilling its contents. And as the tank thundered through the house, it tipped over lit lanterns, spitting flames that ignited the propane and other flammables. The home of used lumber, plywood, and wallboard tacked together with tar paper was vulnerable. The building erupted. Nine BD's escaped jumping through windows and dashing through other openings. Others died groping in the blackness.

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James Nicholl sez; Jeff responds; I wouldn't worry too much about it, Jeff. If you work for JPL, then your job IS imaging things :-) (I know, it was a just a typo, but I couldn't resist. At least, I hope it was a typo, or my stupid joke is stupider than I intended :-) -Tommy Mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk \\ As the radius of vision increases, 18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\ the circumference of mystery grows.

12sci.space

We were having a problem with instability in the universal gravitational constant that day: the closer I got to those exposed fangs (still dripping, no doubt, with the viscera of the last foolhardy experimenter cum canine psychology) the bigger and heavier the dog appeared to become. Also, recall that the distribution of the ~150lb is one five pound jaw+teeth operated by two 70lb muscles driven by a .005 ounce brain possessing an instinctual heuristic composed of equal parts of bloodlust and ravening hunger. The other ~5 lb is, of course, dog poop, but that varies all over the place as the dog deposits it regularly on the painstakingly manicured and tended lawns of the dog's owner's neighbors (whilst continuously replenishing its inexhaustible supply, no doubt by consuming the likes of folks like me). My very thought at the time, but as I looked down at these once formidable instruments of mayhem, I realized they had become weak and atrophied by too many sedentary hours tapping away at my ergonomically-correct CRT keyboard. There was only one option left: I reached down to the toolbox near my car and grasped my Craftsman 150 ft-lb torque wrench, surely the bludgeon of dire necessity if ever there was one. To my amazement and confusion, the setter started shaking and rolling on the grass, then leapt to its feet and vanished down the street, still quivering and occasionally looking back at me. "Seven at One Blow!" I exclaimed, flexing my new-found biceps and brandishing my Terrible Weapon of Invincibility as I stalked the now-secure environs of my domicile. It was only later that I found out what the dog apparently knew all along: the wrench was defective, would no longer measure torque accurately, and Sears wouldn't fix it or replace it. What I had interpreted as fear and subservience were in fact unmitigated hilarity and contempt. Exactly: nobody can look quite as silly as we can.

0rec.motorcycles

I watched the game Germany-Czechs in WC today...and i was astonished about the behaviour of the German audience! The German team got a few penalties in the last period and the crowd went grazy! They threw coins, extra pucks and other trash into the rink...is that stupid or what?? I guess the Canadian referee (one of the Isostar-bros ;) gave the German team a penalty for that, but it didn't help much. I guess the Germans just are proud over their Nazi-Kill-'em-All-Everyone- But-Us-Germans-Sucks attitude...they just seem to have that kind of attitude in every possible sport (remember the European champs in Stockholm in soccer) It really pisses me off! I do not mean that every single German has this attitude that sucks, but most of them seem to do...

16rec.sport.hockey

All right! Let's hope they get off their rear ends and do something because the UN clearly is content to sit on its.

2talk.politics.mideast

-- Douglas C. Meier | You can't play Electro-magnetic Golf Northwestern University, ACNS | according to the rules of Centrifugal This University is too Commie- | Bumblepuppy. -Huxley, Brave New World Lib Pinko to have these views. | dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

8talk.religion.misc

Hello, recently I noticed there is a directory named "DiskImage" in my disk. I didn't notice it before and I wonder if while installing an application an image of the disk was created, or if Win3.1 automatically created a backup of its files. I couldn't find any documentation on the diskimage utility; having an image of the disk is taking *a lot* of disk space. Does anybody know if this is just something the people who installed Win3.1 did or it is a backup mechanism? Thanks, Anibal -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anibal Mayorga | 21 Wenark Dr #7 | W: (302) 831-8704 mayorga@cis.udel.edu | Newark, DE 19713 | H: (302) 453-0309

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The White House Office of the Press Secretary ----------------------------------------------------------------- For Immediate Release April 19, 1993 STATEMENT OF PRESIDENT CLINTON I am deeply saddened by the loss of life in Waco today. My thoughts and prayers are with the families of David Koresh's victims. The law enforcement agencies involved in the Waco siege recommended the course of action pursued today. The Attorney General informed me of their analysis and judgment and recommended that we proceed with today's action given the risks of maintaining the previous policy indefinitely. I told the Attorney General to do what she thought was right, and I stand by that decision.

13talk.politics.misc

Your post is based on the premise that the laws as they stand do not discriminate anybody, so your argument falls over immediately. Are you really that dumb as to use emotive language to prove an argument? Please feel free to answer, that is, if you have anything intelligent to say on the matter.

13talk.politics.misc

Do I ever!!!!!! After 2 years of having health problems that had been cleared up w/allery shots, and not knowing why, I went and was re-tested. I actually did better than when I had been tested 2 years ago.... Then putting 2 + 2 together, I realized that it all started back up when the laser printer came into the office. I kept track of the usage, and on hi use days, I was worse. I got better over the weekends.... The laser printer is gone, I'm 100% better!!!..... Whether it is the toner dust or chemicals, I dont know (I am highly allergic to dust...), but it definitely was the laser printer.... brenda peters carderock div, nswc, david taylor model basin bethesda, md 20084 e-mail : cape@dtvms.dt.navy.mil or

9sci.med

Then Einstein should have had lunch with me at the Tien Fu on Castro Street yesterday, when they handed me a fortune cookie that said "He who has imagination but not knowledge has wings, but no feet".

14alt.atheism

Quite honestly, this one is ridiculous. Consider the following scenario: Runner on third. As the pitcher starts to throw home, the runner takes off for home and the batter squares around to bunt for the suicide squeeze. The pitcher, seeing this, does not throw home, but stops in mid action and puts the runner in a run down. It is the balk rule that prevents this from happening. Believe it or not, this actually happened to me once in an OBA (Ontario Baseball association) game in Milton, Ontario. I was the batter and to my amazement, the umpire missed it. In the 12 years that I played ball, this was worst piece of umpiring I ever saw.

11rec.sport.baseball

: To those of you who have the BMW heated handgrips: : What are they like during the summer? Yes, you : wiseguy, I mean while they are off! : Are they comfortable? Do they transmit a lot of : vibration? How do they compare to the stock grips? : To foam grips? : Do they really make a difference during the winter? I just got a K75 and had the heated grips installed. As far as I can tell the grips look and feel the same as the standard grips. They are *not* soft. Last weekend I did a 500 mile round-trip and got to a point where it was in the 30s and raining. Those heated grips were *great*. I've only had the bike a month and the heated grips are already one of my favorite features on the bike.

0rec.motorcycles

Not this again.

13talk.politics.misc

The tv coverage of the playoffs is fucking ridicules. Overtime time games that are not shown? What the hell kind of shit is this? If that would have happened to the Flyers(if they were in the damn playoffs to begin with) while I was watching, I would have gone throught the roof! However, everybody is getting pissed off at ESPN, but they are not the ones to blame. They have prior contracts that they just can't simply break whenever they want to. The N.H.L. is to blame. When they signed the deal with ESPN, they had to know of this. They had to know shit like this would happen since they wouldn't have complete priority. The N.H.L. should be feeling the heat that is being thrown at ESPN. How can the N.H.L. do this to its fans? How dare they. We are the ones that make the damn league exist and they can't even televise complete playoff games for us to watch! They more I write about this, the more pissed off I get. We must let the N.H.L. know that we expect a little better than this. If anybody out there knows how to go about doing this, let me and everybody else know. Well I had to get that off my chest and while I'm at it.... Mario is the Michael Jordan of hockey. All that fucker has to do is fall on the ice and the closet guy to him gets at least 2. Last night in the 3rd game between NJ and Pitt, he was being pushed while skating across the front of the goal while trying to get a shot off. The guy on him was doing a good job, so he got off a weak shot, but then he decided to fall to the ice. Then the fucking ref(Van Helloamend?) called the guy for holding. They replayed the play, and my roomate(who is clueless about hockey) wanted to know what the NJ guy did to get a call, because it was so fucking obvious the NJ player had both hands on his stick, and no, he did not trip him. It is simple, Mario gets touched, he falls to the ice, automatic 2. But the thing that really pissed me off is, Pitt scored the 3rd or 4th goal, I don't remember, on the resulting PP and eventually won 4-3. His diving/calls makes a HUGE difference in the outcome of a game. They gotta stop the damn holding and interference that is so fucking obvious. That is not hockey. It allows inferior players to bring down the level of the better players, and allows inferior teams to beat better ones. This has pissed me off for many years now, and it has improved somewhat. However, during the playoffs and 3rd periods, the damn refs must misplace their balls, because they sure don't make any calls that show that they got any. All agreeing or disagreeing replies are welcomed.

16rec.sport.hockey

No, which is why I want an investigation. Who ever said he was? What is obvious is that he was defending himself, and his followers, from the government. Whether you think he was right or wrong in this is another question. If he was right, then he had the moral right to kill those kgBATF agents. --Ray Cote

8talk.religion.misc

I have one of these monitors. It appears to function OK, but is unhookable to anything standard (CGA,EGA,VGA) - it will plug in but gives fuzzy diagonal noise. I also have a graphics board that is apparently a 3270 graphic board (double card with 2 8-bit bus connectors, and a 9-pin female connector with a picture of monitor). I tried plugging these two into a standard AT to no avail. How can one connect these to (the monitor seems to be of relatively high quality, so I'm curious)? Any special drivers and/or setup needed - I can't locate any jumpers on the card.

5comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

They changed the lights and slope of the hood, along with the new grille. Otherwise, it is unchanged. Interestingly, their lack of wood and lack of a grille was a BIG design statement... they tried to defy conventional wisdom and carve their own niche ... unfortunately, sales were only half those of the LEXUS and hence, they now join the pack. I still wonder if much of the problem wasn't the slow start from the initial AD campaign. Personally, I like the Q without the Grille.

4rec.autos

True. Today's Boston Globe interviewed a former Unification Church leader who is now a consultant on cults. He said the FBI's approach was totally wrong. He said they should have tried to break down the BD's loyalty to Koresh through psychological means. Koresh's whole theology was based on an approaching confrontation with the forces of evil in the world and a seige mentality based on this. The Feds played into his hands **PERFECTLY**. By surrounding the compound with tanks and playing loud rock music and glaring lights at them they strongly reinforced Koresh's message that the outside world was evil and threatening. He said instead they should have set up a picnic atmosphere, and acted inviting and friendly. If they broadcast anything over PA systems it should have been loving relatives reflecting on pleasant events from the cult members' childhoods. The idea is to make the outside world and surrender seem like a pleasant, desirable alternative. Interesting comments.

13talk.politics.misc

I am thinking of buying a used Audi 90 Auto. These cars look good and Audi do have a good rep. for these cars in Europe (where I'm from). I was just wondering if there anything about these cars that I should know.

4rec.autos

...which would make the number 15%, right Clayton?

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[...] Tim Wallach can be explained with the rabbitball. Deion can be explained as "learning how to play the game". I'm not betting that Deion will be able to play as well as last year, but I think the odds of Deion playing as well or better than he did last year are better than the odds of Otis Nixon doing the same thing. When you factor in defense, Otis was more valuable last year. But I'm not convinced he'll be more valuable this year, and especially next year. -- Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic

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Howdy All! I have recently converted to Microsoft Visual C++. I no longer want my Borland C++ 3.1 w/Application Frameworks product. This version is about 6 months old. I have all of the manuals, disks (5.25"), etc. It is licensed to me but I will transfer the license to the purchaser under the accepted terms of the Borland license agreement. I also have a copy of the books: "Developing Windows Applications with Borland C++ 3", James McCord, Sams (39.95) "Using Borland C++ 3 2nd ed", Mark & Lee Atkinson", Que (29.95) I'd like to do is sell it all to the highest bidder under the conditions listed below. I'll ship C.O.D. to anywhere in the U.S. via the shipper of your choice (provided they are local to me), and I will pay the COD charges (you just pay for the shipping). The list price for the product is about $750. I have seen it advertised for as low as $500. I will accept the best offer over $375 (plus shipping as described above) which is 1/2 the list price, plus, I'm tossing in the 2 books listed above (which are a $70 value). I will hold the bidding open through the weekend and close it sometime in the evening of 4/26/93. Please reply via eMail. Only serious offers please apply. No, I will not consider anything for trade, nor any offers less then $375 as I consider it a fair price. Regards, Steve.

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I have indeed heard of Pythagoras, but I don't know that he was ever disparaged as a "bean eater". In the American Southwest and West (e.g., Texas, California, Colorado), the term "bean eater" is sometimes used as a slur against those of Hispanic heritage (generally Mexicans, in those parts) -- much like how the Irish in the Northeast are perceived (by some) as voracious beer guzzlers.

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In September 1990, our medical reserve unit was sent to the KETZIOT prison camp to take care of Arab prisoner who were housed in 5 sections of 1500 prisoners each, with each section subdivided in 5 units housing 300 prisoners. The prisoners would "communicate" with other distant sections (sometimes 50-100 yards away) by taking stones, tying written notes to the stones, and throwing them with incredible precision to other sections. I should have been a recruiter for the Red Sox :-) There were at least three prisoners who could have been outstanding pitchers.

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Those chimes indicate a hardware failure of some type during System startup.

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Hi, I am looking for a very high speed D/A converter (at least 8bits and 150MHz) for a research application. A paper in the January issue of IEEE Solid-State Circuits mentions a GaAs, 1GHz, 8bit DAC - anyone know where I can find such a thing? Even a somewhat slower Si DAC would do. Needless to say, I have looked in all the conventional places (Vitesse, Motorola, National, etc. etc.). Any pointers would be appreciated.

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Whoa. What you are effectively doing is implying that if a player plays really well, he 'stores up' mistakes that can be used at a later time. Ths is not so. Roy is the 'villain', as you so succinctly put it, because he allowed a very cheap goal. If you think Roy outplayed Hextall, perhaps you should get a tape of the game and watch the first 7-8 minutes of the third period. NHL goaltenders _make_ some great saves. If they did not, they would not be in the NHL in the first place. I do not expect any particular goalie to be able to make the great saves all of the time, even though they are occasionally required. However, when it comes to a routine shot like Sakic's, especially at such a crucial time in a game, I don't think there are any legitimate excuses. I am not arguing that Hextall was brilliant. I am arguing is that a relatively weak wrist shot from the outside of the circle shold not result in a goal. In a one-goal game with less than a minute to go there is no such thing as 'just the 1 goal'. I have not defended Dionne for taking the penalty either...in fact I think it was a boneheaded move. But it led to _one_ goal only, and Montreal had a _two_ goal lead. My main concern is the second goal. What you say about the skaters is absolutely true. But realize that the game was effectively *won*. You could watch any hockey game (in fact, you could watch any sporting event period) and spend hours discussing the 'what if's' w.r.t. missed opportunities. They are not important when the final result is decided. If I get the time soon, I'll watch the game again and email you a list of lucky Montreal bounces and a list of Quebec offensive screwups. Montreal was _leading_ with a minute to go. The goalie is the last line of defence, and I will grant that extra attention is focussed on him, sometimes without justification. But Roy gave up a *lousy* goal, and a team cannot afford such a goal. WHO CARES? Of what value is it to justify one lousy play with a totally unrelated lousy play? I could do a Hextall critique if you'd like. But if you're going to assess his performance, keep in mind that he made the key saves at the key times. For the record, I did not say that Roy was not one of the top goaltenders in the league. In fact, I agree that he is. I assume you are referring to me. However, I have pointed out that I think the loss can be blamed on Roy. I have not said he sucks, nor do I think I've made any other 'derogatory comments'. If you regard objective (and informed, FYI) observations as derogatory, I really can't help you.

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You forgot the part about encasing it in a small shaped charge so that if anyone tries to tamper with it, it explodes and kills you. Oh, and the shaped charge can be set off by remote control...but only if you get out of line. Properly patriotic citizens have nothing to fear.

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How DARE you make such an accusation! There are MANY sober, non-drinkers in this state! If We wern't so busy unloading the beer truck for the week end, I might just come up that and have a talk wit you! B-> ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----

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Hey All- We have an old (1990) external HD attached to the Plus in our lab. It had given us flawless service until last week. The problem: Someone in our lab has an old 512 that was upgraded a couple years ago to a Plus with an aftermarket SIMM/SCSI setup (Digigraphics "SIMMer"). the DB25 SCSI plug runs through the back of the machine and attaches to the board with a 26-pin rectangular connector. Well, this guy had removed the back from the machine, to put more memory in, and had disconnected the the SCSI plug. Since the 26-pin connector is symmetrical (not keyed) he may have reinstalled it upside down, essentially reversing the pins on the DB25. He came in and asked if he could try out our HD on his SCSI port (it had never been used). Naive fools that we are, we said o.k.. His computer failed to recognize the drive. Now, none of the computers in our lab will recognize it. We tried Disk Doctor, and it doesn't recognize anything on the SCSI chain. Could installing the SCSI upside down have wrecked the HD's driver board? The drive seems to spin up all right and unpark itself upon powerup. The events are too coincidental to attribute the problem to stiction. Any help greatly appreciated-

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I'd like to thank everyone and anyone who sent me information to help me with my project. _______ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ --| |- | | | | / /\ \ | |\ \ | | \ \/ / | | | -- | / -- \ | | \ \ | | \ / | | | __ | / ----- \ | | \ \| | / /\ \ |_| |__| |__| /__/ \__\ |_| \____| /__/ \_\ I'll send my report to all who requested a copy!

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Yes, I could look it up but I prefer to post this question to the net... I read somewhere in a long forgotten article that the handsignals used by major league umps were originally used to help a deaf ball player by the name of "Dummy". Urban myth? True? I gots ta know.

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: In article <1r6p8oINN8hi@clem.handheld.com>, jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De : > : > I have not made up my mind about Waco, but there sure seems to be a group of : > devoted government following fanatics willing to believe whatever that : > government wants to tell them, without any shred of doubt, nor thought of thier : > own. They sure get shrill whenever their belief structure is being shaken. : > : > Kinda reminds you of the BDs, doesn't it? : > : > Jim : Go to hell. I'm no "government [-] following fanatic." Your sweeping : generalizations evince your own ignorance. What were they supposed to do? : Just let him be? Yes. Given the history of the BD's and the fact that they were just peacefully minding their own business, I think this would have been the correct course of action in the very beginning. Everything that followed was a direct result of the major media fuck-up that the BATF perpetrated just over 51 days ago. :Fuck him. Fuck the ATF, too. They should've done it right : the first time. : joe.kusmierczak@mail.trincoll.edu Yep, no doubt about it. They should have just bombed those kooks right from the git-go. Yeah, sure! So much for any resemblence to an America that abides by the Constitution. So much for feeling safe in your home. So much for any of the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights being upheld. Why bother? They just get in the way of an effective government. That is, a government of the elite, by the elite, for the elite. Joe, attitudes like yours frighten me. You have very few facts about what actually happened, and what information you do have came from a single source, the FBI/BATF. Yet you are more than happy to pronounce the BD's guilty-as-charged based on this one-sided testimony. Scary!

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How about Acts 11: 15-18, 22-23 or, I John 4:1-8 which says to *try* the spirits to see if they be of God. How do you know? When have you tried to learn anything about me? --

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Are you aware you can make a grenade with gunpower and metal water pipes? Maybe we should outlaw hardware stores and ammo reloading. Are you aware that you can make a firebomb with gasoline? etc.

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Not by any standard of history I've seen. Care to back this up, sans the lies apologists are so fond of? Not really. Most of the prophesies aren't even prophesies. They're prayers and comments taken from the Torah quite out of context. Seems Xians started lying right from the beginning. My we're an arrogant ass, aren't we? You're wrong to think we haven't. The trust was in something that doesn't exist. I'm still willing to die for what I believe and don't believe. So were the loonies in Waco. So what? Besides, the point's not to die for what one believes in. The point's to make that other sorry son-of-a-bitch to die for what *he* believes in! :) Doesn't anyone else here get tired of these cretins' tirades? Peter the Damed, and damned proud of it!

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At the time I didn't really want the Sox to sign either. I was more than a little worried about Viola's elbow. But you *surely* remember my shout of relief when, after a week of rumors that Morris was coming to the Red Sox, they ended up with Viola instead. Now I'm even happier. Viola seems to have rebounded nicely. How long did Viola sign for. Three years? I generally agree with their policy of avoiding long-term contracts for pitchers. But I think they enforce it rather too strictly. These days the premier pitchers all sign three or four year deals. Which leaves the Jays with Morris and Stewart. If the Jays want to compete for top free agent pitchers, they will have to accept greater risks. Any idea what the option year deal is for Morris? Are there any automatic activation clauses? What is the buyout amount?f

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I got a ET4000/W32 card which is made by Cardex yesterday and ran a winmark test on it. The card is a VL-BUS card which can display 16.7 million colours in 640x480 mode with 1MB DRAM. It comes with ET4000/W32 window drivers and a normal Et4000 drivers. The ET4000/W32 drivers handles, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x786 in 256 colours. Also, in 640x480 and 800x600, it supports hicolor, 32K and 64K colours. Here is my winmark result running on a 16MB 486DX33 EISA/VL-BUS system using Hint chipsets. Winmark 3.11 from ZD lab. Using ET4000/W32 drivers 640x480 256 10.63 megapixel/sec. 32k 7.34 64k 7.30 800x600 256 10.07 32k 6.38 64k 6.35 1kx786 256 8.17 Using ET4000 drivers. 640x480 16M 1.78 800x600 16colours 4.01 1kx786 16 4.22 From the result, the ET4000/W32 drivers are specialized to use the hardware feature of the Et4000/W32 chip whereas the ET4000 drivers are just normal driver for ET4000 based graphics card. The price of this graphics card that I got is $185 from a local dealer. It may be less from mail order. It has OS/2 2.0 drivers comes with it which supports 256 colors on all resolution. From these results, it has double the performance of a Et4000AX based card in 256 colours mode.

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I am servicing a machine (HP-286) and whenever the thing starts up I get 4 beeps on powerup. Does anyone know what error message that signifies? I don't seem to have any problem with the machine but the lady who is using it is "very concerned" about it. Don't you just love HP computers??? Preferr responses by E-mail but I read the net so you can post it here.

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pprun@august.it.uswc.uswe Unites States Senate Washington, D.C. 20510 The House of Representatives Washington, D.C. 20515 The White House Washington, D.C. 20500 -Seth __________________________________________________________________________ [unlike cats] dogs NEVER scratch you when you wash them. They just become very sad and try to figure out what they did wrong. -Dave Barry

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