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[S1] And Pabu was the third voted in O's player. He came in because Shurenfire stepped down. Shurenfire said, "You know what? I've got to take care of stuff at home. I've got to take care of myself a little bit." And so Pabu came in as the third vote, and he's like, "I don't know if I can do this." I mean, I have, I have top-liner mechanics, which he meant as an insult, by the way, to himself. Not, not my word choice, his word choice. He's like, "I don't know if I can do it. I got top-liner mechanics." And he is a game away from dethroning the world champion. [S2] I mean, he's not- [S1] As king of, as king of Midlane. As king of Midlane. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] ... himself. [S1] Fiora is, uh, yeah, it was just already a, a hole I dig myself to do frequently. [S2] All right. [S1] Atlanta's statement, "Habu's gonna smash Rookie." [S2] Bold prediction? [S1] Yeah. [S2] That's more of a bold prediction. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Uh, yeah.
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[S1] ... might say. [S2] I mean, I don't think anyone thought we were gonna have this guy in top four, but he's a game away from the finals against either Uzi or Caps. Of course, same spot for Rookie, don't wanna sell him short. Amazing player, much love for Rookie. Coming back on the Akali here, and Akali versus Fiora. He's gonna be the decider of the first semifinal. [S1] All right.
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[S1] Right. Game three here. Everything on the line. I doubt that we'll see someone do, you know, go for a dive like we saw in the last game. In the game three, right? You, you don't want to take those risks anymore. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Ignites for both sides, but the extra flash here, again, Rookie valuing that mobility so much. And there's a good vital spawn. [S2] Yep. [S1] As determined by Phreak. That would be the left one and the bottom one.
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[S1] Yeah, bottom/left, so once that despawns, you go top/right. This is a, like, if I'm Pabu, I would just take this, you know? Like, I would just, you know, you're willing to fight me, but I understand they, they've said they wanna, they'd rather just dance and laugh for the start of the game. [S2] Same runes. The only difference here, actually, instead of the Ravenous Hunter, which still does give you, uh... [S1] 2.5%. [S2] ... 2.5% of your, uh, spell map, you got the Ghost Poro for the, uh, you know, brush vision here.
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[S1] Yeah, I think that can definitely matter 'cause you don't wanna get sort of brush baited. So there's the first hit. Second grasp trigger, good damage there. [S2] Ooh, backs off before the five point strike comes out too, so... [S1] Yeah. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Pabu's setup is super, super sustain heavy. It's all about health sustain. He's running, um, overshield plus, uh, Legend Bloodline.
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[S1] Ooh, good parries too. Okay. Vital with that one. Vital, uh, giving it a lot of health back as well. You're talking about the sustain. [S2] Yeah, it's a lot. [S1] It has really given him control of the minion wave, so a lot of, uh, vamping coming off of his Doran. Life steal as well. But we're approaching the level six, Free.
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[S1] And now Rookie's next up. [S2] Yeah, we thought that it was gonna be a possible Rookie versus Faker matchup after their next two, but now he's fighting to face off versus Pabu. [S1] Yeah. [S2] If he can even get to that spot. I mean, the semifinals are looking, looking pretty hot. [S1] Rookie versus Bang, Hunt and Thieves. Different cheek this time. It was, it was his right cheek last time. Now it's his left cheek. I find that interesting. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] I just, I noticed it, so I said it. [S2] Yeah, I mean, I feel like you did really good on the Sunday newspaper. Like, what's the difference between these two pictures? [S1] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [S2] Spot, spot all nine, uh, differences. [S1] Yeah. [S2] So well done, freak. You got the one today. [S1] Thank you. Thank you. I got the one on a thief's different cheek. Uh, I actually, like, actually, I'm not good at those, by the way. You bring that up. Like, I remember, like, trying to play them. I actually played a lot. [S2] I was just trying to give you a compliment here. Obviously, it's pretty easy to see. That's a completely different, uh, stamp that he's got. [S1] I don't know.
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[S1] ... his cheeks. [S2] Pop quiz, Twitch chat, did you notice that it, that he had this dicker on his other cheek? I don't know. [S1] Twitch chat, at, more observant than Frank? [S2] Oh, wow. [S1] Yes, no. [S2] Uh, that's, I mean, combined, maybe. They have more eyes than I do. Either way, rookie on the Zoe. First Zoe I think we've seen of 1v1. Uh, Bang bringing out Lucian. We think it's like a super, obviously powerful 1v1 champion and obviously in his pool. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] I'm trying to remember. I blanked. [S2] It was definitely a, it was definitely another, uh, assassin type champion. Here we go, though. Bang on Elution. This is marksman versus mid-lane champion. So, these guys not playing around as we get closer and closer to the semifinals. Yeah, it was the Yasuo and then the Akali. [S1] Akali. [S2] We have forget. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Another melee assassin that also has ridiculous range, uh, abilities. [S1] Pretty strong. [S2] But he definitely won both of his matchups. Super convincing. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Uh, so we'll see how, how well he fairs up against Bang.
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[S1] Right now it's just wave clear. And so far it feels like, especially with the cannon, again, D-Sync goes first to blue. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's always gonna be rookies push. Bang getting CS that he can, and hopes it's not too overwhelming of a wave under turret. Anything you can thin out before the turret hits it means you're not battling it for the CS, so that's a bit useful here. Thankfully, a melee minion got in the way of that Q, so not a problem for Bang there.
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[S1] ... just a pick and ban strategy. [S2] Before we get into that, I have a more important question for you. [S1] Oh, okay. [S2] Have we been missing the opportunity for just calling them cuties? [S1] We have. It's the right time. [S2] I'm actually kind of disappointed in ourselves. How did it take us three matches to realize that their team name is actually just cuties? [S1] Because we are incredibly serious. [S2] Oh. [S1] And we definitely came in here- [S2] We're polished professionals. [S1] ... a little bit too try-hard. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Maybe. I don't know. [S2] I don't know. I'm disappointed.
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[S1] All right, well, look, there's- [S2] That's all I have to say. [S1] There's only three, uh, you know, three matches left up. Um, we're sitting on the side of, of, you know, Korea versus Vietnam on this side of the bracket, NA versus NA. Um, and then for all the marbles, for all the bragging rights, you know, uh, Captain Faker versus the cuties. [S2] Yeah. Yeah. Captain Faker versus the cuties. I mean, you gotta be, you gotta be looking cute, feeling cute to play your best. [S1] Right. So I'm gonna ask a question, but there is a, there is a caveat.
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[S1] I think Captain Faker's first one was really, really fun. [S2] What did they play? [S1] I, it was, uh, you know, the Alistar game. The Alistar- [S2] Yes, Lucian-Alistar. [S1] I just think the all-in stuff is more exciting because you know that if you're losing on farm, you have to play for a kill, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] So it's kind of building to that crescendo. It's not a question of if they're gonna do it, it's when they're gonna do it. [S2] Okay, I like that. [S1] And I think that's kinda more fun. Uh, whereas the teams that are playing purely for poke, well, you can just play farm and just kinda sit back. [S2] So in that same style, the, um, Annie Brand, for example, in that same vein, right? [S1] Yeah. [S2] Like, you have to look for an engage at some point.
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[S1] Exactly. I mean, think about, you know, the Malphite game, uh, we had earlier in the 2v2 on the first game. [S2] Oh, yes. [S1] Well, you know, it's like, they have to go for the dive, they've gotta find the kill. You know, those are the most fun games for me. [S2] Okay, now, put on your predicting hat for me. [S1] A predicting hat. [S2] Right? [S1] Okay. [S2] Uh, Captain Fake have played two different styles. They did that Lucian-Alistar that you talked about, and in the previous game, they did Varus and Xerath. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] You have to feel, now you're in the semi-final, you're getting close to finals, surely the seriousness goes up.
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[S1] Okay, so, let's see. Poke probably, then, is the expectation. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, it's sort of the, the safer option. You can still go for the kills, victory. But again, I'm gonna over-read this. Look at Faker, very nervous. He's biting his thumbnail. Slow. [S2] He's never played in such a high pressure match. [S1] Never, never.
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[S1] Never, never. Semifinal 2v2 Pro-Am. Um, Fake has never been there. Like, this is a fact. [S2] Never before. [S1] But look how slow the bands are coming through. A lot of strategy being imposed. Serious faces. Q-T-V's photo, he's smiling, but on camera, he's stressed. [S2] That's true. He is stressed out. They're probably scrolling right now through the Champions League. So, who do we ban? [S1] Yeah, exactly. [S2] Syndra? Sure. That sounds good. Okay, let's do it. [S1] Well, they've followed up with Varus. One last option, but I mean Brand is still up. Neeko's off the table. [S2] I'm a
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[S1] Um, the QTs from Vietnam, they're down in CS. Six at the moment. If they pick up most of this, they've still got their entire minion wave that'll push towards career. So we're talking sort of a eight-ish advantage. [S2] Yeah. [S1] With CS on the map, and Captain Jack and Faker will be happy. I mean, they still, they've got the kill potential if they wanna play for six. And then they can farm from range with Mystic Shot, which'll help them out.
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[S1] Uh-huh. And, uh, Maple, uh, did lose to, uh, Arce. [S2] Yeah. [S1] However, uh, Arce had to leave, so Maple's gonna move on. He gets another chance. That was a Nico 1v1. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, and I kinda wanna see some more Nico, actually. I'd not necessarily in a 1v1 mirror match. [S2] Okay, sure. [S1] Uh, because that just comes down to, you know, who's hitting the snares. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, but I would, I would like to see more of the champion.
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[S1] ... Champion. [S2] All right. I gotta call out Maple's, uh, bands real quick. He banned SNG. [S1] Uh-huh. [S2] Soon in gaming. His new team in the LPL, uh, following the way of CarSage running an LPL team. And, hey, as MLXG has seen firsthand, that's been a pretty good result. Uh, won a couple of titles there. CarSage went over really nice in the LPL. Maple hoping to do a little bit of that as well. [S1] Yeah, people
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[S1] I mean, that's the main thing that's gonna allow you to outplay too. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's all about your umbral dash usage here with Aatrox. I mean, both of them do have flash as well, so there's another option, but that's a five minute cooldown. [S2] And they're both flash on D players. [S1] As am I. [S2] Ooh. [S1] Man of culture there.
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[S1] ... all off. [S2] So, Maple's recall, okay, he's not gonna do it yet. So, Maple gets an item lead on the recall. The item lead has to make up for Ignite. Otherwise, I feel like I'm actually using actions more powerful. [S1] Yeah. And Ignite got buffed. It's pretty... [S2] It's good- [S1] ... hard. [S2] It is good- [S1] Yeah, level four is pretty decent. [S2] Yep. I'm excited for them fighting at level six, getting to 10% HP and standing still AFK, waiting for the timer. They're gonna have the non-action. [S1] They don't stand still. They can crawl around on the ground, circle each other. [S2] Well, no.
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[S1] All right, next time he comes back, then he's gonna try and make use of his ignite advantage. That's the only advantage that he can possibly try and use. And Maples is coming up very quickly, so that will be nullified. [S2] You've got a very small window for MLXG to use. [S1] Flash. [S2] Okay, that's a good item by the way. He got double long swords. So, if he can go right away, MLXG's advantaged. Even with a level... Even with a level deficit, I think it's still better. [S1] Okay. Both ultimates are gonna be pretty much seamlessly synced up as well. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] Oh my gosh. Okay. [S2] That, that, that was the advantage though. That was Ignite. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Now Maple has the extra Ignite and he's got the level advantage still. [S1] And a cloth armor. [S2] Oh no, that was so close. [S1] Oh my gosh. [S2] But the minion wave, MLG want to ch- didn't want to chase into it anymore. He had no more Umbral Dashes. He had no flash. [S1] Yeah. [S2] There wasn't any extra way for him to gain distance and he just had to walk away. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] And watch that Ignite just burn out. [S1] This is actually the best
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[S1] Yes, exactly. [S2] Clearly. [S1] Color scheme advantage. The US is less coordinated, you know? [S2] That's true. [S1] Really letting the side down. [S2] Energy on point. [S1] The North Americans are concerned. Um, right. Taking a look. Do we even have, I would expect all the, the, the masteries and the keystones to be the same as well. [S2] Biscuits? I don't even know if biscuits is good though. [S1] It's good though. [S2] There's no poke, right? [S1] Well. [S2] Um, but here we go. [S1] Okay.
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[S1] ... the beauty of this, I can change my mind at any time. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Maybe if you asked me right now, I'm sweating bullets. [S2] Okay, there we go. Well, um, I'll check back with you after the fight. Of course, the winner, the best part of North America goes on to face Korea in the two V2 Pro-M Final. And for now, Lich and Shifter, it feels like they're on the ropes. Yes, they got the kill, but they're down 20 CS. It feels like this Hex Flash is failing more than it's succeeding. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] Doublelift and Boy Boy, they've got
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[S1] Yeah, I mean, junglers always kind of get underestimated in this mode as well. Junglers and supports, I feel like. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, but again, they come out with more creative champion picks usually. So I'm hoping for some, you know, Lee Sin action or s- something of the sort. [S2] That'd be exciting. We'll see what comes through, waiting around. And let's see what they're gonna find for themselves. Of course, we are pretty much skipping through the Champions Select for most of these and getting ourselves into more gameplay right now. [S1] Mm-hmm.
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[S1] If you want to mash all the words together. You can definitely, they, they must be talking to each other. I don't know what, what they're cracking up over, but, uh... [S2] Yeah, at least for Peanut, that's alphabetical. [S1] Rakan, definitely having a good time, you can see on the character. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Or the camps. Yeah. [S2] Yeah, for Peanut, on the Korean client, uh, alphabetically, Garen, Galio, and Gangplank are the first three alphabetically in Korean, so that's just like, that's like banning Aatrox, Akali, and Yibio- [S1] Yeah. [S2] ... or Ahri, whatever. [S1] I mean, if they previously agreed to Draven, then... [S2] Yeah. I was just, I was
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[S1] ... is gonna have the pressure. [S2] In the last fight, last three seconds. [S1] [LAUGHS] Yeah. [S2] And I can't keep up with it. All right, well, that was beautiful, though. Well done right here. Peanut moving on. Representing King Zone this year. Representing Gen-G next. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Still standing in the LCK. [S1] I heard a rumor that there was a possibility he was gonna come to NA, but he chose to stay in Korea. Look at that flash, though, over to the- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... the stylish finish. [S2] Didn't- [S1] So he can end with lights. [S2] Yeah, yeah. Did- I think he was doing this so he could get his axe and get another attack. [S1] I mean- [S2] Kup didn't need it. [S1] Draven is all about style. [S2] It is.
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[S1] This is the one I had my eyes on, Phreak. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, because Rookie, for a long time, people have been saying, "Oh, yeah, you know, he's, he's been playing a tiny, whole bunch." He's better than Faker, though, for multiple years, and he never got to prove it on the international stage until this year. 2018, he's a world champion, mid-laner, uh, coming to All Stars, and now he gets to enter in the 1v1 tournament, uh, to see, uh, what else he's got. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Can he win with style, or is he gonna go for, uh, you know, the long range? Caitlyn,
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[S1] ... and trading style. [S2] Yeah. And of course, for Plugo, went 0-4 at World's Play, and unfortunately, it's, it's, it's always a hard road for LATAM South. Like, it's, it's, it's tough. Their teams haven't done too well, but, uh, he definitely can have a chance, but he can aim for himself. Again, we've seen a lot of these upsets in the 1v1s and two-on-twos. We saw the, like, the Doublelift and Voyboy took down both Uzi and Faker- [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] ... like, in their road. So, like, those upsets can happen, and I think, you know, having more Kings fall, like Rookie dropping here, that'd be sick. And so, Plugo on the Jace into Yasuo- [S1] Ooh. [S2] ... that is spicy. [S1] This is a
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[S1] In the Yasuo. That is spicy. [S2] This is a fun match up here. We've got both with Ignite. Rookie taking the flash as well, though, uh, for some big outplays. If you flash a shock blast- [S1] Yeah. [S2] Uh, an empowered shock blast, that is more health than you're gonna get off of this- the summoner heal. [S1] All right, so area makes sense, and it's gonna probably be Manapal Band as well, I assume, so that's a good start. Yeah, so very, very standard stuff here. This is, like, the default rune page for almost everyone. [S2] Yeah, it's a regular summoner's lif, uh, Rift laning.
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[S1] I should say, uh, taking on Rookie himself, though, that is, of course, uh, player that Rookie has to get through to get there, to get that, that hype matchup against Likely Bang, and then also that, that expected faker matchup. Rookie is, he's so good at League of Legends. [S2] Yeah. [S1] He's actually insane. [S2] I love the, I love the camaraderie here as well. Jizuke giving, uh, uh, what was that, Peanut there, uh, a hug on his way out. Maybe some tips on, uh, solo lane play. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] See if they can keep moving on.
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[S1] ... sustain off of the minion pushing is so, so oppressive to deal with. [S2] Yeah. [S1] We'll see though. Rookie's got the prestige Kaisa on here as well. [S2] Love it. Love it. [S1] For some extra flashy finishes. [S2] Yep. I like that Saya also went for approach velocity, um, so that when he lands a slow from the Q or the E, he gets, I think, 10% move speed running towards, so- so he can follow up on the Akali. [S1] I mean, we're gonna have a lot of move speed flying around. We have a phase rush and Nimbus Cloak for Rookie. [S2] Yeah. [S1] For super quick Akali. [S2] Uh,
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[S1] ... and get one off himself. All right, a couple more rings, uh, ring and an Amptome come in for Saya. [S2] Yeah. [S1] A little bit more power for when he does hit that level six, 'cause that is gonna be kill opportunity. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Both of them. I mean, you say he's a tank, but, uh, Cho'Gath, AP Cho'Gath- [S2] That's hurtful. [S1] ... is also a 1v1 assassin. [S2] Yes, yes, absolutely. [S1] Not the sneakiest of assassins, but- [S2] Uh, no.
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[S1] Yeah, really cool. And, and he's going to be actually paired up with Zeros, who does play for the Feng-Fu Buffalo, one of the best names, you gotta say, in pro gaming. A pretty fun one there. Uh, so definitely two really strong teams. And NL and Maple is pretty frightening, 'cause when you're looking at, you know, some of these pros are paired up with guys who are, you know, platinum, play more for fun, you know, more for entertainment. NL is, is a, you know, a multi-time champion. [S2] Yeah. [S1] He had won the LMS alongside Maple, so, uh, certainly a, a pretty beastly duo there. Uh, they did play
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[S1] Yeah, definitely, it does get tough, but, you know, if there's anyone to do it, NL and Maple certainly have a good shot, and Fiddle can kinda retaliate with the poke. If they wanna play for the poke war, you can go for the E-max on Fiddle and- and try to kinda harass with that. But, you know, as you say, I mean, I think MF has the easiest kinda comet to hit in the whole game. [S2] Yes. [S1] You go make it rain, uh, you drop the E on them, the slow guarantees the comet. You know, that is very, very simple, alongside, uh, you can even just start W on the- on the Xerath if you want, to kind of, again, that guarantees your comet
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[S1] donating a minimum of $10,000 to a charity of their choice. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You've got 100 grand if you win this 2v2. [S2] Yep. A lot of great causes. Even getting top two, ups it to 25K. [S1] Correct. [S2] So certainly, uh, pride on the line here for these guys. But also, you know, these guys did get to select their charities, so definitely motivated, uh, to give as much over to those great causes as they can. [S1] Yeah, really, really impactful. And it's really fun to see a nice, you know, charity been here at All-Star as well. Over and above the ego and the bragging rights and, and, you know, uh, the individual stories. [S2] You can
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[S1] No, none whatsoever. And this sets them up, uh, incredibly well for that all-in. When you add all of the CC in the kit of Fiddlesticks and Earthgut, if, uh, Q-T-V and Zerus are all flashless, then they're in a whole lot of trouble. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, if they close the gap. [S2] It's definitely pretty terrifying 'cause, you know, you can use one CC to kinda hit them from the next, right? [S1] Yeah. [S2] So if you do get that Fiddle here, and you fling them in, you can hit the ultimate, so on and so forth. Uh, there, you know, is a pretty good combo there.
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[S1] ... Tier Wolf, I want to point out, is joining Splice- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... next year. Of course, uh, a great player in his own right, uh, a huge amount of wins under his belt, but, uh, yeah, th- basically, Splice is see- hoping that, uh, the addition of- of his sort of more aggressive voice in the team can make Splice a more aggressive team. I think management sort of felt they were a little bit too passive as a squad, so look forward to him in the LEC coming in soon. Pabu from O- I actually ran into him, uh, a- a Wednesday night at the pre-party. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, he was talking about how, um, he felt really
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[S1] ... meta that has carried over from too many games to another for him to play off. So he goes with the LeBlanc, a generalist, no, all-around assassin. Um, Tierwolf here, as you said, moving to Splice, is taking up the mobility, Tom Kench. We've seen this before. So that was actually last year, even, in All Stars. Uh, just going for the all-in, stacking up, uh, the taste passive from Tom Kench. Going for the stuns, going for the Devour. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Uh, and you cannot get away
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[S1] Yeah. Twitch chat knows, Twitter knows. I'm not checking during the game. [S2] Now, one of the big things I really liked about All Stars also, um, and you kinda touched on it with Tier Wolf moving to Splyce is how so many of these big off-season roster moves were actually with All-Star players. [S1] Yeah. [S2] And them changing regions, uh, very shortly here. So, this is a chance for them to kinda enter the new region with, uh, a little bit of extra hype if they can do well.
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[S1] Also, since the last time I saw Tom Kinch in the 1v1s, the Greyhound has been nerfed as far as you taking the damage and healing up- [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, the portion that you don't use. [S2] It's a lot weaker. [S1] It's not as good as a sustain mechanism. [S2] It's a lot poorer. Of course, down a half HP and, whoop, has that No Magic Mantle. But I do feel like Doran's Shield would've been better. I feel like maybe that was arguably a miss by. Maybe it wasn't gonna change the result of the game, but something to consider.
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[S1] ... tried. [S2] Check in on. [S1] Oh, Ignite is on. Uh, I think he popped Gray Health here. It actually blocks more damage, but, uh, he'll live. It's fine. Uh, I think it's one more reset, then you have to try one more time. He actually burned Ghost to get away. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And Pablo's, uh, three waves away. He- he's this plus, uh, two more waves of his cannon. The perfect CS. [S2] Oh, now he's got a second dagger coming through, though, for quicker autos. [S1] Oh, God. That is- that is two stabs. [S2] The fork. The fork and the other fork. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] Wild triple top. [S2] People were actually rumoring Westdoor retiring, and I think it's happened a couple of times as well. [S1] Yeah, it keeps, yeah. [S2] You know, he's got a family and everything, and, uh, but he's still relevant, and he's still playing, so. [S1] Yep. [S2] Let's see what he can get. Now on the Pantheon, coming through, and Triple just walks into the same brush. [S1] Yep, throws in a Q.
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[S1] This is kind of the classic grass Caitlyn, by the way. As you can see, getting some health and sustain off those autos. This is something that has made its way into solo queue that I am not a fan of, Free. [S2] Okay. [S1] I, I have played against many of them. It, it's super annoying when your bottom lane has that much sustain and constant, uh, push pressure. So they've brought it to the 1v1.
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[S1] And there's an all in. Westdoor's coming through. [S2] Okay. [S1] All right, so you want to charge up your passive on Pantheon first, so you have the Aegis, you can block an auto. Then, as you're walking towards the Caitlyn, that'll soak one auto, then you W to get the, the refresh on your second passive. Uh, it blocks another auto. That's how you get the better of the trades. [S2] Yep. So right now, of course, Triple, uh, knows this first auto will do nothing. Puts a trap down. He's gonna take an auto from... Okay. [S1] All right, he won the mana there for Westdoor. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] ... jewelry picked up. He's got that in addition to the corrupting potion. [S2] Yep. [S1] Um, now, is, is Westdoor gonna go for, you know, more of these trades and hit the level six to try and get, similar to a Tahm Kench, go for, uh, the, the surprise level six, come back to lane and have items and get good positioning? [S2] Yeah. [S1] Or... [S2] I think Westdoor just wins at six if he gets a good ulti. Like, I don't think Triple can get away from it all.
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[S1] Well, oh, he's got his, uh, little butter knife in his, uh, pocket here, and a bunch of jewelry, and some really cool kicks. [S2] Those are really cool kicks. [S1] Those are like the real Air Droid, you actually jump 7,000 feet in the air. [S2] Okay.
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[S1] Yeah. Now, if you guys watched, uh, Saros in the play-ins, you know, Jap- Japanese player here, he's famous for, uh, the mid-lane champions more kind of off the meta, like- [S2] Yep. [S1] ... Ziggs and Heimerdinger coming through. Mostly the Heimerdinger- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... was what everyone was hyped for. [S2] Brought out a few terms of worlds, it went pretty well. [S1] Yeah, so- [S2] I- I- they- they did-
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[S1] I, they made it through the groups. They lost EDG, but like, that's, that's like the best LGL's done in a really long time, is make it at least to the play in knockouts, so. And Siros, yeah, there we go, on another pocket pick. Vel'Koz, we've seen some, but... [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... that is still a Siros champion. Now, actually, that is Vel'Koz is super good. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] ... is in, gets the snare, then gets just outside of the knock-up range. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Lands the last one. Sarah was having a good time here at All Stars as well. [S2] Absolutely. All right, that was beautiful stuff right there.
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[S1] I very much like that. I very much like that. [S2] Yeah, I was just like, "Oh, what's going on?" [S1] Okay, that's this double-lifting, double-lift, I guess. Um, all right, in terms of duo names, Diamond Flash taking on Double Boy. Um, yesterday, what were the champions there? If I look at it, Anibrand- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... for, uh, Diamond Flash- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... and Cassio Varus for Double Boy. Very different approaches, all-ins versus the poke.
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[S1] Yeah, exactly. You know, very, very different approaches. Uh, we did actually see, I believe, uh, Double Boy win it with the kills, though. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So they were able to actually finish it out and get some kills. Um, you know, the strategy there from the Annie brand was, you know, pretty kind of, uh...
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[S1] ... obvious, right? They were gonna wait for six on Tibbers, they were gonna go for the all-in, but what I didn't expect was they actually got both kills with their first set of ultimate. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Right? They were able to actually chase down their opponents, uh, get both of those right away. So, uh, we'll see if they're gonna go back to that sort of strategy because, again, I believe yesterday, Diamondprox did bring out Annie in his 1v1 as well.
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[S1] He did indeed. So, will it be Annie for the third time in a row? [S2] Maybe. [S1] And it's a question we need to find out. Uh, while we can see Voiboy and Doublelift on the screen, I think it's very important to mention that Voiboy and Doublelift, they took down Uzi yesterday. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Right? Like, that was a huge, huge victory for them. Um, taking down one of the, the legends, and with double, a double of going up against BRTT later today, you know, it's just, it's a lot of, you know, big legacy names standing in his way that he's looking to crash down, and then Voiboy's along for the party as well.
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[S1] Yeah, and I mean, he has, he has a pretty damn good teammate here, right? I mean, the thing is, you, you kinda tag on Voyboy there, but he's Challenger, right? Like, the, the NA teams are pretty stacked for this because all of the, the kinda popular NA streamers that are in this are often former pros. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So you have, like, Shifter with Rick, with Licorice. That's an LCS pro. Voyboy was an LCS pro. These guys are Challenger players currently, so. [S2] As- [S1] Gives you a strong duo.
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[S1] So we can just go next. They already won. [S2] Hey, there we go. [S1] That's 200% win rates right there. [S2] There we go. Uh, this is also one of two North American Juhos in the quarterfinals of the 2v2 program. So, let's see if they're gonna keep the, the, the hopes. I mean, we could have an NA versus NA semi-final. [S1] Oh, they're on the same side. [S2] They're on the same side of the bracket. Yeah, it's, it's... [S1] It's been rigged. [S2] It's, it, it helps sometimes, you know? [S1] Yeah. [S2] LCS teams are one side of the bracket. [S1] Yeah. [S2] You can LCS team in the final. [S1] I mean, you gotta help out these, these other regions, you know? [S2] Exactly. [S1] They're all just kinda trying their best.
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[S1] That's what this is about. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Trying their best and having a good time. [S2] Exactly. Yep. Yep. [S1] You know, because the fact that, you know, EU lost to NA, it doesn't mean anything. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Okay, so... [LAUGHS] [S2] And we all know that trying your best doesn't always equal good results, 'cause I've casted with you many times before. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Yeah, I mean, everybody is looking forward to the first one that's coming up. Doublelift and BRTT, we, we remember at Worlds, uh, there was this big meme that was created because BRTT took down Doublelift, and so he got spammed with all of these tweets, "BRTT greater than Doublelift," and it really got to him. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So now he gets a chance in a 1v1 scenario to actually try and redeem himself. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, BRTT is very confident that he will remain greater than Doublelift, as he has for the past couple of years. [S2] And I'm confident,
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[S1] All right, well, if Doublelift, uh, can figure out what champion he's gonna play here- [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, then I think it's gonna be actually a very interesting matchup. We've seen multiple of these marksmen go against each other. All right, we're on to the Rift. [S2] All right. [S1] We figured out which champion it is. It has to be Nico because Nico, no other champion could cosplay Nico and make it look like a different champion. [S2] That's true. Yeah. [S1] Uh, so it's gonna be Nico versus MF here for BRTT, and they are all marksman bands, as you can see.
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[S1] Uzi already displayed how effective, uh, the Miss Fortune can be. Comet, uh, make it rain. Constant harassment coming out, and he was able to get a pretty, uh, convincing victory. Uh, but we did have a Nico, uh, 1v1 as well. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, with Maple and Arce. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And we got to see a little bit of the extra tricks that you can come out with that one. You know, stealing away the health relics with the
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[S1] So now, now we get the return of the Gauntlet for Pabu, already a good first round opponent, but he's up against Doublelift here on your screen. [S2] Yeah, Doublelift did also play Nico. He played BRTT in the last round, uh, the Nico versus MF matchup. [S1] Yeah. [S2] And he was able to out ult him, uh, because once the MF came in for exhaust range, uh, was able to get off the Nico ultimate, and that was pretty powerful.
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[S1] Mm-hmm. I saw Doublelift did, uh, I think USA with his bands. I couldn't tell what Pabu was going for. There was like a kale in there, and I just couldn't figure out what he was trying to spell. [S2] Man, maybe it, uh, maybe you gotta pay a little more attention to... [S1] Yeah, I missed it. [S2] ... vaccine or something. [S1] Yeah. Uh. [S2] Scorch actually coming in as well for the axes. A little bit more damage early on. Uh, you tag 'em, and it... This might be one that ends early. I mean, it's a double- [S1] Oh, man. [S2] ... with double snowballs, okay? They gotta go in-
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[S1] ... they gotta go in. [S2] The first one to run away loses automatically. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Because you'll just get Q chained. It's slow and a slow. There's no way out. [S1] All right, here we go. One of them, the Freljord skin. [S2] Okay, a point that's actually really relevant here. If you throw Q long, you might instantly lose the 1v1 because if the other player cheats up into melee range, you can't pick your Q back up and you're just down a spell for the entire fight. So, uh, once you get into melee, short Q's are really big.
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[S1] It's really easy, uh, to do. Just always throw your Q right on top of champion model. [S2] Yeah. Uh, it's a pretty foolproof way. [S1] Yep. [S2] Of doing, uh, magic jewels. [S1] But, here's the play. [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] You go for a long-range Q, but you land snowball. They long-range Q. [S2] Oh! [S1] You take snowball. Now you're on top. They can't grab their axe, Kobe. [S2] Oh, but then they flash past you. [S1] But they're still slowed by the max range Q, which lasts like
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[S1] And W is life steal. That's a lot of health back, but the mana pools are low. That was an important dodge and a snowball. [S2] Man, Doublelift had the snowball on Pabu, and it just timed out at the last second there. Didn't want to take it back in. Still has the minion wave push, though, and a huge minion, uh, advantage here. Giant CS numbers for Doublelift. [S1] Yeah. That was so close. And at this point, there's no, there's no mana for Pabu to threaten, so Doublelift gets to hard push this. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] My ideal recalls are Doran's Blades and cloth armors. Maybe boots, but I don't think you need boots because the chain slow is too big. I, like, the boots difference is so small. So it, it's, it's like double long sword cloth armor or double, double Doran's Blade cloth armor and I just win automatically. [S2] Yeah, 'cause the inventory space is never gonna be a thing, so- [S1] No, there's no way. [S2] ... just go for most gold efficient stats. Yeah. [S1] And you've already got, like, life steal on the kit, so, like, it's not like you super need Doran's Blade, but they're just efficient. [S2] It's just 'cause the extra
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[S1] ... for it. They're... [S2] Oh, man. That means he... [S1] He got Faker. [S2] He does get to meet Faker. That is... [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] That is most pros goal. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Is to meet Faker, you know, in 1-1 scenarios. [S1] Yep. And after that, it's Rookie, probably. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Of course, Bang might have something to say about that. 100 Thieves, Fake's paint on.
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[S1] ... up, Evian Double Doge clashing on Howling Abyss. That'll be fun as well, of course. [S2] Heck yeah. I mean, Double Doge coming back. This guy definitely brings style to every international competition he comes to. Uh, and we'll see if he does bring, uh, you know, one of those deals out, uh, that we were talking about before, right? They agree on a certain champion, a mirror. Uh, that's definitely a possibility here. Talking to him at the, uh, party beforehand, uh, he had a lot of, uh, ideas as far as trying to fit people in. [S1] Ideas.
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[S1] We'll see what comes out. I, I love spicy match-ups. The mirrors tend to go pretty interestingly. Uh, I wanna again shout out DFM, uh, Detonation Focus Me, Ivy's team. They again made, uh, the knockout stage of play-ins, which was a, a, a big jump in for Japan, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] If NA's happy about top four, but like, uh, like, wow, this hasn't happened in forever. Like, Japan gets to be happy about making it through the group stage because that, that happens really for them as well. So that was a, that was a good rise up for them. He was part of that squad. I think that's really positive.
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[S1] ... across Dumbledore, part of that Royal Bandits team, alongside Broken Blade, notably known for joining TSM next year. But, uh, that, that first place regular season team from Turkey that, uh, unfortunately- [S2] Oh, man. [S1] ... couldn't put them together in finals, but we get to see this look. Ghost Poro, I like that, actually. I think that is, uh, the best option in that slot because, uh, it's not like Eyeball Clip does anything. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] I'll give you these documents. [S2] Well, I, I, it doesn't sound like you're inventing, and I'm, I'm not sure why it's relevant to what happened two years ago. [S1] But still, these are documents from the archives, copies. Here are the letters from Bogdan Khmelnytsky, the man who then controlled the power in this part of the Russian lands.
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[S1] After World War I, this territory was transferred to Poland, and instead of Danzig, a city of Gdansk emerged. Hitler asked them to give it amicably, but they refused. [S2] Of course. [S1] Still, they collaborated with Hitler and engaged together in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia.
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[S1] Even if we go as far back as 1654, when these lands returned to Russian Empire, that territory was the size of three to four regions of modern Ukraine, with no Black Sea region. That was completely out of the question. [S2] In 1654. [S1] Exactly. [S2] The...
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[S1] I understand that my long speeches probably fall outside of the genre of the interview. That is why I asked you at the beginning, are we going to have a serious talk or a show? [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] You said a serious talk, so bear with me, please. We're coming to the point where the Soviet Ukraine was established. Then, in 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed.
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[S1] I said to the FSB director, "Write to the CIA. What is the result of the conversation with President?" He wrote once, twice, and then we got a reply. We have the answer in the archive. The CIA replied, "We have been working with the opposition in Russia. We believe that this is the right thing to do, and we will keep on doing it." [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Just ridiculous. [S2] [LAUGHS] Well, okay. We realized- [S1] We realized that it was out of the question.
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[S1] I said, "Of course. We need to think about it." I'm told. [S2] What would it be? [S1] I said, "Go ahead, please." Then Secretary of Defense Gates, former director of CIA and Secretary of State Rice came in here in this cabinet, right here at this table. They sat on this table. Me, the foreign minister, the Russian defense minister on that side. They said to me,
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[S1] Yes, we have thought about it. We agree. I said, "Thank God, great." But with some exceptions. [S2] So, twice you've described US presidents making decisions and then being undercut by their agency heads. So, it sounds like you're describing a system that's not run by the people who are elected in your telling. [S1] That's right. That's right. In the end,
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[S1] Before that. [S2] No, no. [S1] No, this was before that, after President Kuchma, Viktor Yanukovych won the elections. However, his opponents did not recognize that victory. The US supported the opposition and the third round was scheduled. [S2] What is this?
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[S1] This is a coup. [S2] ... 32. [S1] The US supported it, and the winner of the third round came to power. [S2] ... A ... [S1] Imagine if in the US something was not to someone's liking, and the third round of election, which the US Constitution does not provide for, was organized. [S2] [LAUGHS] Organized three ... [S1] Nonetheless, it was done in Ukraine. [S2] ... ... [MUMBLES] [S1] Okay. Viktor Yushchenko, who was considered a pro-Western politician, came to power.
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[S1] That raises a, a question related to something I heard you say many years ago at a lecture, which was that, um, this was a scientific lecture and you said, you know, we don't know how other people feel. Most of the time we don't even really know how we feel. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Maybe you could elaborate on that a little bit. And the, the, um, dearth of, of ways that we,
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[S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] So in, um, this, uh, area of trying to figure out what's going on under the hood through words, it sounds like certain words, uh, would relate to this, uh, this idea of anticipation and hope. [S1] Sure. [S2] Um, is it fair to say that that somehow relates to the dopamine system in the sense that dopamine is involved in motivated behaviors? I mean, is that in, if I say, for instance, and I, I won't ask you to run a session with me here for, uh, for free. [S1] [LAUGHS] We'll do that off camera.
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[S1] I have a terrible time sleeping. I'm not hungry. I'm not eating. So statements about physical actions, I'm guessing, also have, um, validity. [S2] Absolutely. [S1] And there are now ways to measure
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[S1] ... the accuracy of those statements. Like for instance, if I gave you permission, you could know if I slept last night or whether or not I was just saying I had a poor night's sleep. [S2] Yes, that's right. [S1] So in moving forward through 2021 and into the next 10 and 100 years of psychiatry, do you think that the body reporting some of the actions of a human, um, are going to be- become useful and, and me- mesh with the words in a way that's going to make your job easier?
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[S1] ... that you referred to at the beginning, uh, this person who doesn't feel comfortable coming to talk to you. They, um, maybe something is measuring changes in the inflection of their voice. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Or the, the speed at which they get up from a chair. Do you think that those kind of metrics will eventually inform somebody, "Hey, you know, you're in trouble"? This is getting to this question of, uh, the, back to the statement that I heard you make and rung in my mind now, I think for more than a decade, which is oftentimes we don't even know how we feel. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] before the patient does. And then there are things the patient may notice but not correctly ascribe to the onset of depression. And a classic example of that is what we call early morning awakening. And this is something that can happen very early as people start to slide into depression. They start to wake up earlier and earlier, you know, just inexplicably they're awakened. [S2] So this is like 2 a.m., 3 a.m. type- [S1] Yeah. [S2] ... awakening.
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[S1] ... type waking. [S2] Yeah. It could start, yeah, it could start at 5 a.m., could go to 4, and to 3. [S1] And unable to fall back asleep. [S2] Unable to fall back asleep, exactly. Uh, so that's, and that, they may not know what to do with that. It could just be, from their perspective, it's just something that's happening. But if you put enough of that information together, that, that could be a useful warning sign for the patient and it could help them seek treatment. And I think that is a, something that could be really valuable.
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[S1] I think the first thing we need is understanding. We need, we need, uh, it's, almost every psychiatric treatment has been serendipitously identified, just noting by chance that something that was done for some person also had a side effect of it. [S2] Like lithium or something. [S1] Like lithium is a, is a good example. [S2] Is it true that it was the, the urine of guinea pigs given lithium that was given to manic patients that made them not manic? Is that true?
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[S1] I don't have first-hand knowledge of that, but, uh, I would, I would defer that, that. But it's, it's true for essentially every treatment. You know, the, the antidepressants originally, uh, you know, uh, arose as anti-tuberculosis drugs, for example. [S2] I did not know that. [S1] Yeah. And so this is a, it's a classic example for, uh, uh, and this, this is across all of, of psychiatry. Um, and of course the, the seizures as well. That was noticed that patients who had epilepsy, they, or, or had a seizure, they're, and also had depression, that they became much, uh, at least for a while, they were improved after the seizure.
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[S1] So that seems like the first, to me, the first bin of this, what I call the bento box, uh, for lack of a, a, a better analogy, that we need to know the circuits. We need to know the cells- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... in the various brain regions and, and portions of the body and, uh, and how they connect to one another and what the patterns of activity are under a normal, quote unquote, healthy interaction. [S2] Yeah. [S1] If we understand that, then it seems that,
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