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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, C.Lee wrote :\n\n> > I think I'll use this \"--with <whatever>\" switch more and more where\n> > possible.\n> \tMmm, great stuff ... Now to get the RedHat Samba packager to do the\n> \tsame thing ...\n\nI'm sure that if you file a bugzilla entry with a relevant patch against\nthe spec file, chances of getting the change done are on your side ;-)\n\n> \tI have used there spec file and fun a few problems in it, and one\n> \tof them was just hashing out things for other use ...\n> \n> \tNow to get to grips with the Kernel ... still have not found and\n> \teasy way to rebuild the Kernel without having to wait and hour for\n> it to generate the headers for all arch ... arrrrhhhh ...\n\nThe problem is that \"--with <foo> --without <bar>\" is clearly not meant to\nchange deeply the way a package is built. Its use would be more like\nenabling/disabling gpg, ldap, whateversql support in packages as it's not\npossible to use something like \"--with-<foo>=<bar>\" which could be used for\na much wider scope.\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10\nLoad : 0.00 0.12 0.32, AC on-line, battery charging: 100% (4:47)\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Matthias Saou (matthias@rpmforge.net) wrote*:\n>- I've rebuilt a new \"alsaplayer\" package based on Angle's one.\n\nCool, one less package to maintain :)\n\nOne interesting thing about alsaplayer is that RedHat's XMMS package in RH8 will\nprobably not play mp3 files. But alsaplayer does play mp3s \"out of the box\".\n\nAlso, they are developing rapidly in their CVS and looks like their next version\nof alsaplaer will be pretty cool, but I have no idea when it will be ready.\n\n--\nThat's \"angle\" as in geometry.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "I need to setup a VPN between a few sites. From what I've read, the the\nchoices come down (on the Linux side) to IPsec (using FreeSWAN) or CIPE.\nIt seems that FreeSWAN is 'better', being an implementation of IPsec which\nis a standard. However, CIPE does the job as well for Linux clients and is\nsomewhat simpler to setup. \n\nThe problem is that it's not a pure Linux situation - a couple of the sites\nrun OS-X. I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to find an implementation of\nIPsec for OS-X, but I think CIPE is Linux only.\n\nSo, the question is for those of you have have implemented BOTH - is there a\nsignificant difference in setup time and hassle between CIPE and FreeSWAN ?\nIf CIPE is going to be much easier than dealing with FreeSWAN (and whatever\non the OS-X sites) then I'll simply get a Linux box for each of the remote\nsites - with the low price of hardware, it doesn't take much more complexity\nin software to make buying hardware to use simpler software economic.\n\n\n\nNiall\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Have you thought of bumping up sylpheed-claws? I see sylpheed got a\nbump... show some claws love? (;\n\n-- \nJesse Keating\nj2Solutions.net\nMondo DevTeam (www.mondorescue.org)\n\nWas I helpful? Let others know:\n http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Angles Puglisi (angles@aminvestments.com) wrote*:\n>Also, they are developing rapidly in their CVS and looks like their next version\n>of alsaplaer will be pretty cool, but I have no idea when it will be ready.\n\nahh, oops they just released. -/\n\n--\nThat's \"angle\" as in geometry.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Jesse wrote :\n\n> Have you thought of bumping up sylpheed-claws? I see sylpheed got a\n> bump... show some claws love? (;\n\nWell, in sylheed's \"claws\" branch you need to wait a bit for the developers\nto backport all the updates from the main branch before getting a release\nwith the same version number.\n\nRight now, the latest \"claws\" release is still 0.8.2claws :\nhttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=25528\n\nBut as it's the primary mailer I use, you can be sure that as soon as it's\nupdated to 0.8.3, I'll update my build! :-)\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10\nLoad : 0.18 0.23 0.33, AC on-line, battery charging: 100% (4:47)\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi,\n\nhas anyone an answer for me? The mplayer documentation still suggests to use\nthem for x86 architectures.\n\nThanks. :)\n\nRegards, Axel.\n\nOn Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 11:39:03PM +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:\n> Are there perhaps licensing issues, which forbid such a practice? Or any other\n> reasons?\n> \n> The reason I ask is that I have seen performance and also some feature\n> differences (fullscreen w/o keeping aspect ratio, visual artifacts on NVIDIA)\n> comparing with or without the Win32 codecs. The mplayer authors seem to\n> recommend using them for x86 architectures.\n> \n> Beware, I am no mplayer/codecs/whatever expert, I may be totally lost ...\n\n-- \nAxel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Axel wrote :\n\n> has anyone an answer for me? The mplayer documentation still suggests to\n> use them for x86 architectures.\n\nWell, I think my avifile build still needs the win32 codecs to be able to\nrun (manually copied into /usr/lib/win32/), but personally, I've been very\nhappy with mplayer's default (which is ffmpeg's ffdivx decoder) for nearly\nall the DivX files I used. The only ones that still require (from my own\nexperience) the use of the win32 codecs are the ones encoded with a strange\nDivX 3 sound format... and I've really not seen any quality or speed\nimprovements when using them.\n\nMatthias\n\n> On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 11:39:03PM +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:\n> > Are there perhaps licensing issues, which forbid such a practice? Or\n> > any other reasons?\n> > \n> > The reason I ask is that I have seen performance and also some feature\n> > differences (fullscreen w/o keeping aspect ratio, visual artifacts on\n> > NVIDIA) comparing with or without the Win32 codecs. The mplayer authors\n> > seem to recommend using them for x86 architectures.\n> > \n> > Beware, I am no mplayer/codecs/whatever expert, I may be totally lost\n> > ...\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10\nLoad : 0.35 0.46 0.43, AC on-line, battery charging: 100% (4:47)\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\nBTW: I just a found a quite nice looking apt repositry for all kinds of\naudio apps at\n\nhttp://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/\n\nPeter\n\n\nOn Thu, 2002-09-19 at 23:28, Angles Puglisi wrote:\n> Matthias Saou (matthias@rpmforge.net) wrote*:\n> >- I've rebuilt a new \"alsaplayer\" package based on Angle's one.\n> \n> Cool, one less package to maintain :)\n> \n> One interesting thing about alsaplayer is that RedHat's XMMS package in RH8 will\n> probably not play mp3 files. But alsaplayer does play mp3s \"out of the box\".\n> \n> Also, they are developing rapidly in their CVS and looks like their next version\n> of alsaplaer will be pretty cool, but I have no idea when it will be ready.\n> \n> --\n> That's \"angle\" as in geometry.\n> \n> \n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> RPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\n> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:40:55 +0200\nMatthias Saou <matthias@rpmforge.net> wrote:\n\n# But as it's the primary mailer I use, you can be sure that as soon\n# as it's updated to 0.8.3, I'll update my build! :-)\n\nIt got updated (;\n\n-- \nJesse Keating\nj2Solutions.net\nMondo DevTeam (www.mondorescue.org)\n\nWas I helpful? Let others know:\n http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "I need to experiment with ripping out all my \"sophisticated\" cut/paste\ncode. This is mostly historical accident from dealing with very early\nversions of Tk, and the emacs \"cutbuffer\", and other wierd junk.\nYou can, too, by hacking upon seditBind.tcl appropriately.\n\n>>>Hal DeVore said:\n > \n > \n > >>>>> On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, \"Tony\" == Tony Nugent wrote:\n > \n > Tony> I can't even mark text in an exmh message window and then\n > Tony> paste it into a terminal window, the cut buffer seems to\n > Tony> be completely empty (and its previous contents are no\n > Tony> longer there either).\n > \n > Brent confessed recently that he had tried to subvert the X\n > model(s) of copy and paste. Not in those words... but that\n > was how I read it. ;)\n > \n > I have a lot of trouble copying and pasting from or to exmh \n > across a VNC link (from things in the vncviewer to things not in \n > it and vice versa). As long as I stick to apps being \"normally\" \n > displayed on my X server I don't have much of a problem.\n > \n > My recollection from my X programming days is that the X model,\n > like everything in X, is more complex than the human brain can\n > handle. It also is very different from the MS-Windows model.\n > And I get the feeling that Tk tries to \"unify\" those two models\n > and fails. Not sure what the exmh-specific contribution to the \n > confusion is, frankly.\n > \n > --Hal\n > \n > \n > \n > \n > _______________________________________________\n > Exmh-users mailing list\n > Exmh-users@redhat.com\n > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n--\nBrent Welch\nSoftware Architect, Panasas Inc\nPioneering the World's Most Scalable and Agile Storage Network\nwww.panasas.com\nwelch@panasas.com\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "I am trying to manage the email for a domain which I have hosted with\nhosting365, and am trying to get the whole email send and receive thing\nworking nice and easily.\nAt the moment I have configured Fetchmail to poll the different pop3\nmailboxes and deliver the mail accordingly, although it appears that I have\nto have only one unix user being able to receive from each pop3 mailbox.\nThis could be a limitation of the fetchmailconf programme, I'm not sure, but\nIt would be much handier if I could just tell it to collect all of the mail\nfrom the different mailboxes, and then deliver it locally according to the\n\"To:\" header instead of the pop3 mailbox it came from.\nThe other issue I am having is sending outgoing mail. I have been trying to\nuse sendmail, but am finding it to be an absolute pain in the posterior, and\nwhen the relay server will only accept outgoing connections if I have\nchecked for incoming mail in the last twenty minutes, and I don't know how\nto set sendmail to run a command before it sends out the mail. Do any of\nthe outgoing mailer programs, exim or postfix or whatever, have a 'nice'\nconfiguration interface, or do they all have nice friendly configuration\nfiles like sendmail.\n\nAny suggestions of alternative solutions would be much appreciated. There\nare only three or four email addresses in my domain, and setting it up for\nscheduled collection and either scheduled or immediate delivery would do me\nfine.\n\nThanks,\n\n\tDavid.\n\nDavid Hamilton\nSenior Technical Consultant\nHP Ireland \n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "It's all here in these 10 lines, otherwise known as the\n\"I'll try my damnest to paste something\" procedure:\n\n# Return the current selection (from any window) or cut buffer 0.\nproc Text_Selection {} {\n if [catch {selection get} sel] {\n if [catch {selection get -selection CLIPBOARD} sel] {\n if [catch {cutbuffer get 0} sel] {\n return \"\"\n }\n }\n }\n return $sel\n}\n\nThis is in textSelection.tcl, and is what exmh uses to find text to paste.\nIt is that last \"cutbuffer get\" that is wacky, because exmh sticks its\nown deletions into that little know stash, and is probably the only\napplication on the planet that still looks there. We should probably\njust disable that - try this variant:\n\nproc Text_Selection {} {\n if [catch {selection get} sel] {\n if [catch {selection get -selection CLIPBOARD} sel] {\n return \"\"\n }\n }\n return $sel\n}\n\nEverything funnels through here, so you just need to hack this one spot.\n\n\n>>>Rick Baartman said:\n > I've never understood the mouse buffer operation with exmh either. Here's th\n e \n > behaviour I have. I have exmh and XEmacs windows up, and a terminal window. \n (I \n > also have gnome1.4 running and enlightenment as wm.) I select text in the ex\n mh \n > window and while it is highlighted, I can paste into anything else. If I sel\n ect \n > it and then click so the highlighting is off, then what I paste is not the \n > recently-selected text in exmh, but an old selection. If I select in XEmacs \n and \n > leave it highlighted, I can paste it into exmh sedit window; but if it is no\n \n > longer highlighted, what I paste is an old selection. I can live with this \n > behaviour except for one additional thing. If nothing is highlighted, then w\n hat \n > I paste into exmh is different from what I paste into other windows. To be m\n ore \n > specific, here's what gets pasted if nothing is highlighted:\n > \n > Application What gets pasted\n > \n > XEmacs whatever was last selected unless it was last selected in \n exmh\n > xterm same as XEmacs\n > AbiWord nothing\n > Nedit nothing\n > sedit Whatever was last highlighted in sedit and overwritten\n > \n > The last needs some amplification. If I highlight something in sedit, then \n > obviously that's what gets pasted. If the highlighting is off, then what get\n s \n > pasted is NOT what was last highlighted in sedit, but what was last highligh\n ted \n > and typed over (I have \"Type Kills SEL\" on.).\n > \n > It seems that exmh and sedit are the oddballs here. Very often when I try to\n \n > paste something in sedit I end up muttering WTF??\n > \n > --\n > rick\n > \n > \n > \n > _______________________________________________\n > Exmh-users mailing list\n > Exmh-users@redhat.com\n > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n--\nBrent Welch\nSoftware Architect, Panasas Inc\nPioneering the World's Most Scalable and Agile Storage Network\nwww.panasas.com\nwelch@panasas.com\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n>>>\"Kevin Oberman\" said:\n > It did for me, but I am not willing to say it is not a tcl/tk issue as\n > other apps seemed to work OK for cut and paste and Tk does its\n > clipboard stuff a bit differently than most toolkits. So I'm not\n > about to place blame. Just reporting my experience.\n\nOne more salvo on X and cut/paste. X specifies at least two *mechanisms*\nfor cut/paste, but as usual mandates no *policy*. Windows and Macintosh\nhave a slightly different mechanism and one uniform policy. I'm quite\nsure that Tk implements all PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD selections accurately.\nThe PRIMARY selection is the one that is tied to the visible selection\non your X display. The CLIPBOARD selection is the one with the explicit\nCopy step, and is the same as what you have on Windows and Macintosh.\nHowever, exmh throws in support for the cutbuffer mechanism, which is\nanother archaic mechanism supported at one point (perhaps still today)\nby versions of emacs. Exmh has a policy that tries to unify all these\nmechanisms under one umbrella, and by all reports it is not that great.\n\nI would encourage folks to play with those 10 lines of code in\nText_Selection and report what works well for them. We may come up\nwith 8 lines that work for everyone, or perhaps introduce yet another\nsetting that lets folks choose between a few useful models. Of course,\nthat's an admission of policy failure, but I'm willing to do that.\n\n--\nBrent Welch\nSoftware Architect, Panasas Inc\nPioneering the World's Most Scalable and Agile Storage Network\nwww.panasas.com\nwelch@panasas.com\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | " Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:21:49 -0700\n From: Brent Welch <welch@panasas.com>\n Message-ID: <200209230521.BAA11218@blackcomb.panasas.com>\n\n | I would encourage folks to play with those 10 lines of code in\n | Text_Selection and report what works well for them. We may come up\n | with 8 lines that work for everyone, or perhaps introduce yet another\n | setting that lets folks choose between a few useful models. Of course,\n | that's an admission of policy failure, but I'm willing to do that.\n\nI actually think you're looking in the wrong place. I, at least,\nhave almost no problems with the choice of what gets pasted, or\nselected, that stuff (for me, if perhaps not users of some gnome variant,\nwhich appraently has been fixed anyway) all seems to work just fine.\n\nThe problem is that a button 1 click clears the selection (PRIMARY)\nwhere it shouldn't - the previous selection should only be cleared\nwhen there's something else to replace it (even if the highlighting\nof what is selected is removed). Try this in any other ramdom\napplication (from xterm to netscape) and see how it works. There\nnormally is *no* (mouse based) way to actually clear the primary\nselection (that is, set it to be a null string).\n\nThen, because of the \"if I get asked for the selection value, I will\nfind something\" behaviour, if you click (intending to set the insert\npoint, the way most other GUI's operate), and then paste, because the\nPRIMARY is clear, but exmh still owns the selection, because nothing\nelse has taken it, it does and finds some other ramdom stuff, from\neither the clipboard or cut buffer, which tends to be something that was\ndeleted back in the ancient past, and pastes that.\n\nThat behaviour, to me anyway, is the real issue.\n\nOnce that gets fixed, we can switch back to operating the normal\n\"select stuff, click at new insert point, paste\" mode of operation\nthat almost everyone expects to work (whether the \"select stuff\"\nis somewhere in one of the exmh windows, or elsewhere).\n\nkre\n\nps: this message is from my experience as a exmh user only, I've never\nreally understood enough about X and selections to go gazing at that\npart of the code and see how it all really operates.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Oops - turns out i wasn't careful installing it, so the exmh(library)\nvariable was pointing at my old installation. I'm surprised it worked\nas well as it did.\n\nIn any case, I removed the old library directory, and edited exmh,\nexmh-bg, exmh-strip, etc to point at the right one. Now I'm getting\nanother traceback on startup:\n\ncan't read \"mhPriv(pubseq,family,cur)\": no such variable\n while executing\n\"MhSeq $folder $seq add $mhPriv(pubseq,$folder,$seq) [MhSeqExpand\n$folder $msgids\"\n (procedure \"MhReadSeqs\" line 73)\n invoked from within\n\"MhReadSeqs $folder seqs\"\n (procedure \"Mh_Sequences\" line 2)\n invoked from within\n\"Mh_Sequences $folder\"\n (procedure \"Flist_UnseenUpdate\" line 4)\n invoked from within\n\"Flist_UnseenUpdate $folder\"\n (procedure \"FolderChange\" line 51)\n invoked from within\n\"FolderChange family {Msg_Show cur}\"\n invoked from within\n\"time [list FolderChange $folder $msgShowProc\"\n (procedure \"Folder_Change\" line 3)\n invoked from within\n\"Folder_Change $exmh(folder)\"\n (procedure \"Exmh\" line 101)\n invoked from within\n\"Exmh\"\n (\"after\" script)\n\n\n+family is the folder I was in when I quit exmh.\n\nI'm on a remote display right now, and its really slow. I'll have to\nplay with it more tonight when I get home to see if there are any\nother problems. \n\nScott\n\n> > From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>\n> > Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:58:16 -0400\n> >\n> > I just updated to the latest CVS - I had been running a build from June. \n> > Hitting the Flist button gives the following traceback:\n> > \n> > syntax error in expression \"int(17+1+(222-)*(19-17-2)/(224-))\"\n> > while executing\n> > \"expr int($minLine+1+($msgid-$minMsg)*($maxLine-$minLine-2)/($maxMsg-$minMs\n> > g))\"\n> > (procedure \"Ftoc_FindMsg\" line 57)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"Ftoc_FindMsg $i\"\n> > (procedure \"Ftoc_ShowSequences\" line 16)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"Ftoc_ShowSequences $F\"\n> > (procedure \"ScanFolder\" line 81)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"ScanFolder inbox 0\"\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"time [list ScanFolder $F $adjustDisplay\"\n> > (procedure \"Scan_Folder\" line 2)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"Scan_Folder $exmh(folder) $ftoc(showNew)\"\n> > (procedure \"Inc_PresortFinish\" line 7)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"Inc_PresortFinish\"\n> > invoked from within\n> > \".fops.flist invoke\"\n> > (\"uplevel\" body line 1)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]\"\n> > (procedure \"tkButtonUp\" line 7)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"tkButtonUp .fops.flist\n> > \"\n> > (command bound to event)\n> > \n> > \n> > It seems to only happen in a folder with no unseen messages.\n> > \n> > Chris, is this related to your recent changes?\n> \n> Curious. I changed the arguments to Ftoc_ShowSequences to drop the folder \n> argument and instead have an optional msgids argument. Somehow your version \n> of ScanFolder is still trying to pass $F. You seem to have the latest \n> ftoc.tcl (1.36), but not the latest scan.tcl (1.27).\n> \n> I don't know how that happened, but try getting your source tree completely \n> up to date.\n> \n> Chris\n> \n> -- \n> Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\n> virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n> 716 Congress, Suite 200\n> Austin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n> \n> World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> --==_Exmh_1988991284P\n> Content-Type: application/pgp-signature\n> \n> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\n> Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)\n> Comment: Exmh version 2.2_20000822 06/23/2000\n> \n> iD8DBQE9jygSK9b4h5R0IUIRAix6AJ9CorKpwn/5KatPB2QytCyr1mVP5QCfd84d\n> CBV9usxWABobTcDTVHm8fLY=\n> =xJhj\n> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----\n> \n> --==_Exmh_1988991284P--\n> \n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Chris Garrigues <cwg-bcc@DeepEddy.Com>\n> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:41:22 -0500\n>\n> > From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>\n> > Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:58:16 -0400\n> >\n> > I just updated to the latest CVS - I had been running a build from June. \n> \n> > Hitting the Flist button gives the following traceback:\n> > \n> > syntax error in expression \"int(17+1+(222-)*(19-17-2)/(224-))\"\n> > while executing\n> > \"expr int($minLine+1+($msgid-$minMsg)*($maxLine-$minLine-2)/($maxMsg-$minMs\n> > g))\"\n> > (procedure \"Ftoc_FindMsg\" line 57)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"Ftoc_FindMsg $i\"\n> > (procedure \"Ftoc_ShowSequences\" line 16)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"Ftoc_ShowSequences $F\"\n> > (procedure \"ScanFolder\" line 81)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"ScanFolder inbox 0\"\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"time [list ScanFolder $F $adjustDisplay\"\n> > (procedure \"Scan_Folder\" line 2)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"Scan_Folder $exmh(folder) $ftoc(showNew)\"\n> > (procedure \"Inc_PresortFinish\" line 7)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"Inc_PresortFinish\"\n> > invoked from within\n> > \".fops.flist invoke\"\n> > (\"uplevel\" body line 1)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]\"\n> > (procedure \"tkButtonUp\" line 7)\n> > invoked from within\n> > \"tkButtonUp .fops.flist\n> > \"\n> > (command bound to event)\n> > \n> > \n> > It seems to only happen in a folder with no unseen messages.\n> > \n> > Chris, is this related to your recent changes?\n> \n> Curious. I changed the arguments to Ftoc_ShowSequences to drop the folder \n> argument and instead have an optional msgids argument. Somehow your version \n> of ScanFolder is still trying to pass $F. You seem to have the latest \n> ftoc.tcl (1.36), but not the latest scan.tcl (1.27).\n> \n> I don't know how that happened, but try getting your source tree completely \n> up to date.\n\nActually, I take that back. You're not running the latest ftoc.tcl either.\n\nIt probably is my bug, but it's in code that's been changed since you last \nupdated from CVS (Saturday), so please update and let's see if the problem is \nstill there.\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>\n> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:54:19 -0400\n>\n> Oops - turns out i wasn't careful installing it, so the exmh(library)\n> variable was pointing at my old installation. I'm surprised it worked\n> as well as it did.\n> \n> In any case, I removed the old library directory, and edited exmh,\n> exmh-bg, exmh-strip, etc to point at the right one. Now I'm getting\n> another traceback on startup:\n> \n> can't read \"mhPriv(pubseq,family,cur)\": no such variable\n> while executing\n> \"MhSeq $folder $seq add $mhPriv(pubseq,$folder,$seq) [MhSeqExpand\n> $folder $msgids\"\n> (procedure \"MhReadSeqs\" line 73)\n> invoked from within\n> \"MhReadSeqs $folder seqs\"\n> (procedure \"Mh_Sequences\" line 2)\n> invoked from within\n> \"Mh_Sequences $folder\"\n> (procedure \"Flist_UnseenUpdate\" line 4)\n> invoked from within\n> \"Flist_UnseenUpdate $folder\"\n> (procedure \"FolderChange\" line 51)\n> invoked from within\n> \"FolderChange family {Msg_Show cur}\"\n> invoked from within\n> \"time [list FolderChange $folder $msgShowProc\"\n> (procedure \"Folder_Change\" line 3)\n> invoked from within\n> \"Folder_Change $exmh(folder)\"\n> (procedure \"Exmh\" line 101)\n> invoked from within\n> \"Exmh\"\n> (\"after\" script)\n> \n> \n> +family is the folder I was in when I quit exmh.\n\nThat shouldn't have been able to happen, but I've just made the code slightly \nmore bullet proof.\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>\n> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:35:05 -0400\n>\n> The speed is a problem for sure - It takes a long time to do the\n> rescanning of sequences (I associate it with hitting the 'flist'\n> button, or when my background flist goes off). I'm running on a\n> pretty fast system (Athlon 1700+, 512Mb RAM, 10k RPM ultra SCSI disk)\n> and hitting flist used to take no more than a second. The big\n> difference might just be perception, because the the old code just\n> updated all the folders (count + color) all at once, instead of making\n> it look like there is 0 unseen, then counting its way back up. \n> \n> I doubt I'll have much time in the immediate future to hack at this,\n> but if I do - can you suggest areas that might be the best to\n> optimize? If not, do you think we can put in some preferences to\n> disable some of the more intensive features? I'd rather disable all\n> the sequence support (except unseen, of course) and have reasonable\n> speed. I suspect people on slow machines would find the current\n> state unusable.\n\nIf I knew where the problem was, I'd fix it myself.\n\nFinding it is probably more work than the actual fix.\n\n> > \n> > This is because of your Hook_MsgShow_update_unseen which is calling a fun\n> ctio\n> > n \n> > which no longer exists.\n> > \n> > I suspect you need\n> > \tSeq_Del $exmh(folder) unseen $msgid\n> > now instead of \n> > \tMh_MarkSeen $exmh(folder) $msgid\n> > \n> \n> Thanks. I'm not sure I'll need it with the new sequence code, but I\n> might. Does your new code commit sequences immediately? The old code\n> didn't, so I put that in to help keep my mh and exmh windows in sync.\n\nYes it does.\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | "> How easy would it be to code a menu item that marks as read all messages \n> before the current message? I often have problems reading heavy-traffic \n> mailing lists in exmh because I want to read only a subset of a lists \n> messages, but I lose track of where I was in the particular folder. \n> \n> This could also be coded more generally in the new sequences code as a way to \n> remove all messages before current from a particular sequence.\n\nEasy.\n\nFirst, you'll have to excuse me as I'm still using 2.3.1 (*), so, this\nmay not play well with recent changes. (I did look at 2.5.1, too).\nAnd, I just did this off the top of my head (I wanted to see if it\n(**) still worked), so this is somewhat untested.\n\nAdding a menu entry is trivial; add this to your ~/.exmh/exmh-defaults:\n\n*Fops.more.m.uentrylist:\tketchup\n*Fops.more.m.l_ketchup:\t\tCatch-up all b4 cur\n*Fops.more.m.c_ketchup:\t \tMy_Mark2CurSeen\n\nThen you just need to provide the source for My_Mark2CurSeen and \narrange for Exmh to include it (put it in your ~/.tk/exmh directory\nin your user.tcl; or in pick.patch if you enable the \"source hook\"\nunder Prefs->Hacking Support)\n\nIt's going to look something like this:\n\nproc My_Mark2CurSeen {} {\n global exmh pick msg\n Exmh_Status \"Clearing unseen up to cur...\" red\n Mh_SetCur $exmh(folder) $msg(id)\n set pick(ids) [...get message ids for \"pick 1-cur\"...]\n busy PickMarkSeen\n Exmh_Status ok blue\n}\n\n(that's based upon the guts of Pick_MarkSeen)\n\nYou need to fill in the code for the [...get...] section; I ran out of\ntime!\n\nJohn\n\n(*) \"It just works\" (tm)\n(**) \"it\" == my head\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\ncwg-dated-1033065967.2dc492@DeepEddy.Com said:\n> From: Chris Garrigues <cwg-exmh@DeepEddy.Com>\n> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:07:01 -0500 >\n> Here's a fix that I think will make a real difference.\n> \n> Ftoc_ShowSequences needs to be able to be called with an optional\n> list of msgids \n> to update and if it's called that way it only removes or adds tags\n> for those \n> messages. Then in places like MsgChange, we only update the\n> messages which have\n> changed.\n> \n> Also, a separate Ftoc_ShowSequence function which only updates the\n> display of \n> one sequence should be written which also takes an optional list of\n> msgids.\n> \n> In a place like MsgChange, it would only need to update the cur\n> sequence.\n> \n> If nobody else gets to it, I'll do this when I get back.\n\n> I just checked this in. Let me know if it helps.\n\n> Chris \n\nCongratulations Chris, you just made the hall of fame!! Speed is much better now. I haven't done any tests, but I'd say that latency dropped 2-3 times and we're back in good shape again.\n\nWell done!\n\n/Anders\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hello, have you seen and discussed this article and his approach?\n\nThank you\n\nhttp://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html\n-- \"Hell, there are no rules here-- we're trying to accomplish something.\"\n-- Thomas Alva Edison\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>\n> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:22:26 +0200\n>\n> \n> It seems that something changed during the last 3-4 weeks.\n> \n> 1) In a folder, msgs 1-n is read, n=current, n upwards is unread.\n> 2) change to another folder\n> 3) change back to the original folder and you'll see msg n+1 being \n> highlighted as current for a split second, that it changes back to \n> n=current.\n> \n> Kind of annoying since it marks msg n+1 as read.\n\nI haven't seen what you describe, but I just saw something close to what you \ndescribe. I think the message that's being incorrectly highlighted as current\nis related to the current message in the other folder rather than being n+1.\n\nI'll have to investigate a bit more to identify and fix the bug, but there is \nsomething going on here.\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | [["i'm a very happy user of exmh, but i'm paranoid also :-)\ntherefore i'm not too happy with exmh caching my pgp passphrases.\n\nusually i use a relatively secure tool called 'quintuple agent' \n<URL:http://www.vibe.at/tools/secret-agent/> to store my passphrases,\nand i've just added the few lines of code to exmh which allow for such\nexternal caches.\n\nthe patch is attached, it is against version 2.5-1 (debian), and the\nfiles modified are extrasInit.tcl and pgpExec.tcl.\n\ni've added three new preferences in the 'general pgp' section, which\nallow everybody to use his/her favourite external tool to get the\npassphrase (everything which spits out the phrase on stdout is ok).\n\ni'd be happy if somebody with cvs access thinks that this stuff \nis worth to be added and does so; apart from that i'm happy for \nsuggestions, comments or critique (mind you, i'm not exactly a special \nfriend of tcl so my code may leave things to be desired...)\n\nregards\naz\n\n", "--- /usr/lib/exmh/extrasInit.tcl\tSat Mar 2 17:26:38 2002\n+++ ./extrasInit.tcl\tFri Sep 27 14:22:13 2002\n@@ -642,6 +642,18 @@\n {pgp(passtimeout) pgpPassTimeout 60 {Minutes to cache PGP passphrase}\n \"Exmh will clear its memory of PGP passphrases after\n this time period, in minutes, has elapsed.\" }\n+{pgp(extpass) pgpExtPass OFF {Use external passphrase cache}\n+\"If this is enabled, then exmh will use an external program to retrieve \n+your passphrase when needed. pgpKeepPass and pgpPassTimeout will \n+be ignored.\"}\n+{pgp(getextcmd) pgpGetExtCmd {/usr/bin/q-client get %s} {Method to query external passphrase cache}\n+\"This external program is used to retrieve the passphrase for your key,\n+if pgpExtPass is active. The passphrase is expected on stdout.\n+The key id is substituted with %s (using format).\" }\n+{pgp(delextcmd) pgpDelExtCmd {/usr/bin/q-client delete %s} {Method to invalidate external passphrase cache}\n+\"This external program is used to delete the passphrase for your key\n+from the external cache, if pgpExtPass is active. \n+The key id is substituted with %s (using format).\" }\n }\n \n # Make sure we don't inherit a bad pgp(version) from a previous setup\n--- /usr/lib/exmh/pgpExec.tcl\tSat Mar 2 17:26:39 2002\n+++ ./pgpExec.tcl\tFri Sep 27 14:19:40 2002\n@@ -647,6 +647,33 @@\n proc Pgp_GetPass { v key } {\n global pgp\n \n+ if {[info exists pgp(extpass)] && [set pgp(extpass)] \\\n+\t && [info exists pgp(getextcmd)]} {\n+\tExmh_Debug \"Pgp_GetPass $v $key external\"\n+\tset keyid [lindex $key 0]\n+\tset cmd [format $pgp(getextcmd) $keyid]\n+\twhile (1) {\n+\t Exmh_Debug \"running cmd $cmd\"\n+\t if [ catch {exec sh -c \"$cmd\"} result ] {\n+\t\tExmh_Debug \"error running cmd: $result\"\n+\t\tExmh_Status \"Error executing external cmd\" warn\n+\t\treturn {}\n+\t } else {\n+\t\tif {[Pgp_Exec_CheckPassword $v $result $key]} {\n+\t\t return $result\n+\t\t} else {\n+\t\t Exmh_Debug \"bad passphrase\"\n+\t\t if {[info exists pgp(delextcmd)]} {\n+\t\t\tExmh_Debug \"trying to invalidate bad passphrase\"\n+\t\t\tif [catch {exec sh -c \"[format $pgp(delextcmd) $keyid]\"}] {\n+\t\t\t Exmh_Debug \"invalidation failed\"\n+\t\t\t return {}\n+\t\t\t}\n+\t\t }\n+\t\t}\n+\t }\n+\t}\n+ } else {\n Exmh_Debug \"Pgp_GetPass $v $key\"\n \n if {[lsearch -glob [set pgp($v,privatekeys)] \"[lindex $key 0]*\"] < 0} {\n@@ -695,6 +722,7 @@\n }\n return $password\n }\n+\t}\n }\n }\n \n", "-- \n+ Alexander Zangerl + az@snafu.priv.at + DSA 42BD645D + (RSA 5B586291)\nKind of like my 404K fund, \"wealth not found.\" -- shrox\n"], "…"] |
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| easy_ham | "\n\n>>>>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, \"Paul\" == Paul Menage wrote:\n\n Paul> so you don't really need the unseen window unless you're\n Paul> using more sequences than just \"unseen\".\n\nI use a virtual window manager and keep the main exmh window and \nthe detached folder list on one virtual desktop but the unseen \nwindow is set to show on all desktops.\n\nGot no help for the problems, but just pointing out why some of \nus find the unseen window invaluable.\n\n\n--Hal\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "In article <E17tS0T-0001zD-00@rds059> you write:\n>>>> Patrick Salsbury writes:\n>\n> Patrick> One of the features I really like about exmh is the\n> Patrick> ability to see which folders have unseen messages in\n> Patrick> them, but recently, it seems to have vanished into the\n> Patrick> bowels of my window manager in a place I can't get\n> Patrick> to. It claims to be running, but doesn't appear\n> Patrick> anywhere onscreen. (I'm using Enlightenment with a 2x2\n> Patrick> virtual desktop. I've tried dropping it to only 1\n> Patrick> screen. No help.)\n> Patrick>\n>\n>This may not help/work but I've discovered recently that\n>Alt-middle-mouse pops up a list of all of my windows. If I leave\n>my mouse on the background, it lists Alt-middle-mouse as \"Display\n>Task List Menu\".\n>\n>HTH,\n>\n>- Bill\n\tWhen I do that, it just moves my mouse to the very edge of a window\n(probably trying to center it on the off-screen window in question.) \n\n\tI'll have to try it with another window manager and see if I can\nget exmh to put it back inside of sane boundaries. I don't have this\nproblem with any other windows, though. Just the exmhunseen window.\n\nPat\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\nHash: SHA1\n\nIn article <E17v8Mw-0004eS-00@pmenage-dt.ensim.com> you write:\n>>\n>>\tI'll have to try it with another window manager and see if I can\n>>get exmh to put it back inside of sane boundaries. I don't have this\n>>problem with any other windows, though. Just the exmhunseen window.\n>>\n>\n>How about enabling the \"Show unseen message count in folder cache\"\n>option? It displays the number of unseen messages next to each folder name\n>(if greater than 0), so you don't really need the unseen window unless\n>you're using more sequences than just \"unseen\".\n>\n>Paul\n>\n\tAs Hal noted, I like to have the unseen window visible in all\nvirtual desktops, even if the main window is minimized. However, I looked\nthrough ALL the preferences menus, and didn't see anything resembling \"Show\nunseen message count in folder cache\". Where is that? And in what version?\n(I'm running v2.4 - 06/23/2000 - Creaky, I know.)\n\n\tI went into twm with no virtual desktops, and it came up just fine.\nGoing back to Enlightenment I saw the same behavior as before. Then I knew\nit MUST be something in the window manager, so I went digging. in my \n~/.englightenment/...e_session-XXXXXX.snapshots.0 file I found all the\nsettings that E. uses for remembering border styles, positions, shaded\nstate, etc. \n\tI have a 1600x1200 screen, and it kept putting my window at\n1655x150 (AND had it shaded to boot, so it was tiny as well as offscreen!)\n\tSearching for 'unseen' in that file found this section:\n\nNEW: exmh.Exmh\nNAME: exmh\nCLASS: Exmh\nNEW: unseen.UnseenWin\nNAME: unseen\nCLASS: UnseenWin\nDESKTOP: 0\nRES: 1600 1200\nWH: 114 173\nXY: 1655 150 0 0\nLAYER: 4\nSTICKY: 1\nSKIPTASK: 0\nSKIPWINLIST: 0\nSKIPFOCUS: 0\nSHADE: 2\nBORDER: PAGER_LEFT_BLUE\n\n\tI changed:\nXY: 1655 150 0 0 \tto \nXY: 1455 150 0 0\tso it would reappear in my viewable space,\nrestarted Enlightenment (CTRL-ALT-End) and then restarted exmh. Bingo!\nThere was my window! \n\n\tI quickly told Englightenment to forget everything about that\nwindow except is border style, and now have a sveldt little entry like so:\n\nNEW: exmh.Exmh\nNAME: exmh\nCLASS: Exmh\nNEW: unseen.UnseenWin\nNAME: unseen\nCLASS: UnseenWin\nBORDER: PAGER_LEFT_BLUE\n\n\tCompletely an Enlightenment problem, not exmh. (Though I wonder how\nit got mixed up in the first place? I certainly can't move a window off\nscreen like that. Unless it was part way over then snapped offscreen when\nshading.)\n\n\tHmm. Weird. \n\n\tAnyway, thanks for the suggestions, folks. Hopefully this will be\nuseful to someone scouting the archives in the future... :-) \n\n\n\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: PGP 6.5.2\nComment: Don't know what PGP is? Check http://www.pgpi.org/\n\niQA/AwUBPZayRIJkhJBJYtPQEQIyzgCg/mMMlKnmP8Cxa/h7b5X0KrJXsLsAoO1N\n6dm1Hpj6RnUGPjuUQItBYEC3\n=OL5H\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n\n>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, \"Ted\" == Ted Cabeen wrote:\n\n Ted> Here's the code for everybody and the list archives in\n Ted> case anyone wants it in the future.\n\nVery cool! I vote for this being added to CVS, any objections?\n\n--Hal\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\nHash: SHA1\n\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii\n\nIn message <3703.1033415613@dimebox.bmc.com>, Hal DeVore writes:\n>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, \"Ted\" == Ted Cabeen wrote:\n>\n> Ted> Here's the code for everybody and the list archives in\n> Ted> case anyone wants it in the future.\n>\n>Very cool! I vote for this being added to CVS, any objections?\n\nNot from me, although you probably want to change the name of the procedure. \n:)\n\n- -- \nTed Cabeen http://www.pobox.com/~secabeen ted@impulse.net \nCheck Website or Keyserver for PGP/GPG Key BA0349D2 secabeen@pobox.com\n\"I have taken all knowledge to be my province.\" -F. Bacon secabeen@cabeen.org\n\"Human kind cannot bear very much reality.\"-T.S.Eliot cabeen@netcom.com\n\n\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD)\nComment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001\n\niD8DBQE9mK24oayJfLoDSdIRAs21AKDYeoDgFYgSUldYusaLxJTbcsPxuQCdHaFG\nZ4P4FqmRJlqCbvmKFJMNgJI=\n=dC6l\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | " Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:53:33 -0500\n From: Hal DeVore <haldevore@acm.org>\n Message-ID: <3703.1033415613@dimebox.bmc.com>\n\n | I vote for this being added to CVS, any objections?\n\nNo, but using PickMarkSeen (and pick(ids)) as an alternative to\njust doing\n\n\tSeq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $results\n\nseems unnecessary to me (that's all that PickMarkSeen does after all).\n(That can be done via \"busy\")\n\nOf course, the same is true of the badly named Pick_MarkSeen which has\nnothing at all to do with \"pick\" except that it (ab)uses the pick(ids) var\nin the same way. (Its name would be hard to change unfortunately, as it\nis known in app-defaults files for the \"Catch Up Unseen\" menu item, but\nits implementation could certainly be fixed).\n\nkre\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi Dermot, if have a look at one of the dists. like www.smoothwall.org, it\nwill save you lots of time and effort, and should do eveything you want.\n\nJustin\n\n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: ilug-admin@linux.ie [mailto:ilug-admin@linux.ie]On Behalf Of\n> Dermot Daly\n> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:46 AM\n> To: ilug@linux.ie\n> Subject: [ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system\n>\n>\n> Hi All,\n> I'm trying to set up the following:\n>\n> 1. A Linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an\n> ethernet card for LAN connectivity\n> 2. Other LAN pcs with ethernet cards, using the Linux server for\n> DNS/DHCP etc.\n>\n> Basically, I want to route any non LAN traffic through the ppp0.\n>\n> I've got some of the way, but like a similar post earlier about modem\n> problems, when I am connected to the internet with eht0 up, the routing\n> is all incorrect and noting goes out through ppp0 (eh0 must be the\n> default route or something).\n>\n> Is there standard \"out of the box\" Linux tools that will carry out\n> portmapping on behalf of the LAN PCs ? (I'm planning on non routable\n> addresses 192.168.x.x for the LAN, routed outwards via the ppp0\n> interface).\n>\n> Can someone point me at the right HOWTOs or routing documentation I need\n> to follow ?\n> Thanks,\n> Dermot.\n>\n> --\n> Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\n> http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription\n> information.\n> List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n>\n>\n>\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "I've had this binding in my ~/.exmh/exmhbindings for years:\n\nset {bindings(key,Flist_FindUnseen 1 ; Inc_PresortFinish)} <Key-f>\n\nAfter updating to the current code in CVS I get \"bad key f\" when \nI hit the \"f\" key. I can open the Bindings... Commands window \nand define the binding. It then works until I restart exmh.\n\nI suspect a parsing problem/change. I'll try to look into this \ntomorrow unless someone knows where the problem might be.\n\n--Hal\n\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Hal DeVore <haldevore@acm.org>\n> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 23:22:14 -0500\n>\n> I've had this binding in my ~/.exmh/exmhbindings for years:\n> \n> set {bindings(key,Flist_FindUnseen 1 ; Inc_PresortFinish)} <Key-f>\n> \n> After updating to the current code in CVS I get \"bad key f\" when \n> I hit the \"f\" key. I can open the Bindings... Commands window \n> and define the binding. It then works until I restart exmh.\n> \n> I suspect a parsing problem/change. I'll try to look into this \n> tomorrow unless someone knows where the problem might be.\n\nFlist_FindUnseen has changed to Flist_FindSeqs. It takes the same arguments, \nbut I changed the name because it looks for all the sequences, not just the \nunseen sequence.\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | "\n>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, \"Chris\" == Chris Garrigues wrote:\n\n Chris> I'm not sure I'll get to it any time soon.\n\nWell, you have a pretty good idea of when I might get to it (the \nphrase hell freezes over comes to mind)... so whenever you can \nwill certainly be fine.\n\nThanks for considering it. In the meantime I've set the \n\"minimum entry lines\" to 1. It certainly isn't going to make me \ngo back to the old version.\n\n--Hal\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n\n>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, \"Chris\" == Chris Garrigues wrote:\n\n Chris> Flist_FindUnseen has changed to Flist_FindSeqs.\n\nI guess I was sleepier than I thought. I managed to cut and\npaste the _right_ stuff from the app-defaults file into the\nBindings definition dialog without ever noticing that it was\ndifferent from what was in my exmhbindings file.\n\n--Hal\n\nP.S., can I get a pointer to a freeware Tcl/Tk debugger?\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | " Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:39:13 -0500\n From: Hal DeVore <haldevore@acm.org>\n Message-ID: <9288.1033576753@dimebox.bmc.com>\n\n | Restarting exmh was necessary.\n\nProbably not. Next time try clicking on the folder name in the\nsequences window for the sequence. That is, request that sequence\nbe the one displayed in the FTOC. If the sequence doesn't exist,\nit will be cleaned up then.\n\nPerhaps it would be nicer if flist would do it as well, but this\nis effective enough.\n\nkre\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n[I wrote this last night but it appears I never sent it... still \nhaven't had time to dig in to it...]\n\n\n>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, \"Robert\" == Robert Elz wrote:\n\n Robert> No, but using PickMarkSeen (and pick(ids)) as an\n Robert> alternative to just doing\n\n Robert> Seq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $results\n\n\nAh. Neither Ted nor I were particularly up to date. I pulled \ndown the lates from CVS and am now running with it. I miss the \nblue ftoc lines but I'll sort that out soon, iirc Chris said \nit's a simple resource change.\n\nTed's code to \"ketchup\" made use of some of the procs that went \naway in the sequence generalization. I've fixed it up... almost \nand it looks like this now:\n\nproc Cabeen_Mark2CurSeen {} {\n global exmh mhProfile msg\n set results {}\n Exmh_Status \"Clearing unseen up to cur...\" red\n Mh_SetCur $exmh(folder) $msg(id)\n set unseen [Mh_Sequence $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) ]\n foreach elem $unseen {\n if { $elem <= $msg(id) } {\n lappend results $elem\n }\n }\n busy Seq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $results\n Exmh_Status ok blue\n}\n\n\nThe \"almost\" is because it's not updating the highlighting on \nthe ftoc. I'm too tired to go figure out how to fix that just \nnow and have to move on to other stuff. If someone wants to \nforward me a clue feel free.\n\nNow that I've got all of Chris' sequence stuff I discovered that \nmy sequences are ... cluttered.\n\n--Hal\n\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "> \n> \n> >>>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, \"Dag\" == Dag Nygren wrote:\n> \n> Dag> but when procmail runs it it doesn't, presumably as it\n> Dag> doesn't have the authorization to communicate with the\n> Dag> laptop, beeing another user?\n> \n> I don't know anything about the KDE sound server but I'd guess \n> your problem is the \"environment\" in which procmail runs. You \n> don't say what procmail is running from. In my case, for \n> example, procmail is run from fetchmail which is run by a cron \n> job.\n\nSorry about that,\nprocmail is run by the qmail delivery agent to presort all mail\nI get.\nBut anyway, I found an error message in procmail.log, which solved\nthe problem.\nThe following line in my delivery script seems to work fine now:\n\nDISPLAY=<laptop>:0.0 artsplay <soundfile>\n\nThanks\n\nDag\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon. :-) \n\nJustin \n\n> Hi,\n> \n> Can anyone point me to a howto on running mailing lists. Not looking for\n> anything that is package specific, but rather something that \n> gives general\n> info on the various Email headers and dealing with returned \n> mails, errors in\n> transport etc..\n> \n> Thanks\n> \n> Justin\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | " Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:54:46 -0500\n From: Chris Garrigues <cwg-dated-1030377287.06fa6d@DeepEddy.Com>\n Message-ID: <1029945287.4797.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com>\n\n\n | I can't reproduce this error.\n\nFor me it is very repeatable... (like every time, without fail).\n\nThis is the debug log of the pick happening ...\n\n18:19:03 Pick_It {exec pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace} {4852-4852 -sequence mercury}\n18:19:03 exec pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace 4852-4852 -sequence mercury\n18:19:04 Ftoc_PickMsgs {{1 hit}}\n18:19:04 Marking 1 hits\n18:19:04 tkerror: syntax error in expression \"int ...\n\nNote, if I run the pick command by hand ...\n\ndelta$ pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace 4852-4852 -sequence mercury\n1 hit\n\nThat's where the \"1 hit\" comes from (obviously). The version of nmh I'm\nusing is ...\n\ndelta$ pick -version\npick -- nmh-1.0.4 [compiled on fuchsia.cs.mu.OZ.AU at Sun Mar 17 14:55:56 ICT 2002]\n\nAnd the relevant part of my .mh_profile ...\n\ndelta$ mhparam pick\n-seq sel -list\n\n\nSince the pick command works, the sequence (actually, both of them, the\none that's explicit on the command line, from the search popup, and the\none that comes from .mh_profile) do get created.\n\nkre\n\nps: this is still using the version of the code form a day ago, I haven't\nbeen able to reach the cvs repository today (local routing issue I think).\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Wed Aug 21 2002 at 15:46, Ulises Ponce wrote:\n\n> Hi!\n> \n> Is there a command to insert the signature using a combination of keys and not\n> to have sent the mail to insert it then?\n\nI simply put it (them) into my (nmh) component files (components,\nreplcomps, forwcomps and so on). That way you get them when you are\nediting your message. Also, by using comps files for specific\nfolders you can alter your .sig per folder (and other tricks). See\nthe docs for (n)mh for all the details.\n\nThere might (must?) also be a way to get sedit to do it, but I've\nbeen using gvim as my exmh message editor for a long time now. I\nload it with a command that loads some email-specific settings, eg,\nto \"syntax\" colour-highlight the headers and quoted parts of an\nemail)... it would be possible to map some (vim) keys that would add\na sig (or even give a selection of sigs to choose from).\n\nAnd there are all sorts of ways to have randomly-chosen sigs...\nsomewhere at rtfm.mit.edu... ok, here we go:\nrtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-group/news.answers/signature_finger_faq.\n(Warning... it's old, May 1995).\n\n> Regards,\n> Ulises\n\nHope this helps.\n\nCheers\nTony\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | " Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:40:39 -0500\n From: Chris Garrigues <cwg-dated-1030376441.95dd45@DeepEddy.Com>\n Message-ID: <1029944441.398.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com>\n\n | The background color in this window is the same as the background \n | color in the ftoc.\n\nThat's what I'd like to vary - particularly as the ftoc background isn't\nconstant - messages in the unseen sequence have a different background\nthan others.\n\nIn the ftoc that's fine, but in the sequences window, it isn't needed.\nunseen already has a different foreground there (no problem with that),\nit doesn't need a different background as well.\n\nI'll play about a bit with this, and with making it vertical instead of\nhorizontal, and see what turns up.\n\n | The only sequences that are defined there are sequences which are defined\n | in app-defaults-color or ~/exmh/exmh-defaults-color.\n\nOK.\n\n | I've been thinking about how to dynamically generate highlighting for\n | other sequences, but haven't got that figured out yet.\n\nIn this case, highlighting wasn't what I was most concerned about.\nA method to get messages in & out of sequences comes first, how it\ndisplays is a secondary consideration. But as a suggestion, have an\n\"all unknown\" sequence highlight, any message in a sequence which has\nno defined highlighting (where defined includes defined to not be treated\nspecially) gets highlighted the same way (maybe something as boring as\na dark brown text colour - almost indistinguishable from the normal black)\n\n\n | > > Any chance of making the current message a little brighter background?\n | \n | I don't see any reason why not. Experiment and let me know what works for you.\n\nDone some of that. First, the most significant change came from changing\nrelief from raised to sunken. I don't know why, but it just looks better\n(for me anyway). But even with that, cur and unseen are still just a\nbit too similar. I ended up using\n\n*sequence_cur: -background {PaleGoldenrod} -relief sunken -borderwidth 2\n\nThe unnecessary braces are just because some of the colours I was using\nhad spaces in their names. PaleGoldenrod translates as #eee8aa which\nis probably safer for generic use.\n\nkre\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Chris Garrigues <cwg-exmh@DeepEddy.Com>\n> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:40:39 -0500\n>\n> > From: Chris Garrigues <cwg-exmh@DeepEddy.Com>\n> > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:17:45 -0500\n> >\n> > Ouch...I'll get right on it.\n> > \n> > > From: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU>\n> > > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:30:01 +0700\n> > >\n> > > Any chance of having that lengthen instead? I like all my exmh stuff\n> > > in nice columns (fits the display better). That is, I use the detache\n> d\n> > > folder list, one column. The main exmh window takes up full screen,\n> > > top to bottom, but less than half the width, etc...\n> \n> I thought about that. The first order approximation would be to just add \n> using pack .... -side top instead of pack ... -side left, however, since their \n> each a different width, it would look funny.\n\nI've done this. It's not as pretty as I think it should be, but it works. \nI'm going to leave the cosmetic issues to others. When I update the \ndocumentation, I'll add this to the exmh.TODO file.\n\nI'm leaving for a 2 1/2 week vacation in a week, so this is the last new \nfunctionality I'm going to add for a while. Also, I now have pretty much \neverything in there that I want for my own use, so I'm probably pretty much \ndone. I'll work on bug fixes and documentation before my vacation, and \nhopefully do nothing more afterwards.\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>\n> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:55:03 +0200\n>\n> \n> \n> \n> > > > > Just cvs up'ed and nowadays Catch-up Unseen is __extremely__ slow o\n> n \n> > > > > large (>100 msgs) unseen sequences. Anybody else having this proble\n> m?\n> > > > \n> > > > I'll take the blame.\n> > > > \n> > > > The reason, I suspect, is that we're needlessly reading the .sequence\n> s file \n> > > > multiple times because of other sequences. I need to make the code m\n> uch \n> > > > smarter about handling that file, but first I have a few other fish t\n> o fry in \n> > > > my rather large patch that's on it's way.\n> > > > \n> > > \n> > > No panic,\n> > > \n> > > I'm all for cleaning things up before getting it optimized.\n> > \n> > Okay, this fix is now checked in.\n> > \n> I'm afraid it didn't help. It still seems to be slower than ~1 month \n> ago. Maybe slightly faster than yeasterday. I'm (still) seeing an \n> \"unseen countdown\" in the log.\n\nOkay....Catchup unseen is something that I don't use often, but i can \ncertainly reproduce this. I'll dig into it. It's probably simple.\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | "\nOooops!\n\nDoesn't work at all. Got this on startup and on any attempt to change folder (which fail)\n\n/Anders\n\ncan't read \"flist(seqcount,lists/exmh,unseen)\": no such element in array\n (reading value of variable to increment)\n invoked from within\n\"incr flist(seqcount,$folder,$seq) $delta\"\n (procedure \"Seq_Del\" line 16)\n invoked from within\n\"Seq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $msgid\"\n (procedure \"MsgSeen\" line 7)\n invoked from within\n\"MsgSeen $msgid\"\n (procedure \"MsgShow\" line 12)\n invoked from within\n\"MsgShow $msgid\"\n (procedure \"MsgChange\" line 17)\n invoked from within\n\"MsgChange 73 show\"\n invoked from within\n\"time [list MsgChange $msgid $show\"\n (procedure \"Msg_Change\" line 3)\n invoked from within\n\"Msg_Change $msg(id) $show\"\n (procedure \"Msg_Show\" line 7)\n invoked from within\n\"Msg_Show cur\"\n (\"eval\" body line 1)\n invoked from within\n\"eval $msgShowProc\"\n (procedure \"FolderChange\" line 55)\n invoked from within\n\"FolderChange lists/exmh {Msg_Show cur}\"\n invoked from within\n\"time [list FolderChange $folder $msgShowProc\"\n (procedure \"Folder_Change\" line 3)\n invoked from within\n\"Folder_Change $exmh(folder)\"\n (procedure \"Exmh\" line 101)\n invoked from within\n\"Exmh\"\n (\"after\" script)\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "In a message dated: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:03:57 CDT\nUlises Ponce said:\n\n>Thanks Tony, but I think doing it using component files will get a .signature \n>by default, but I have many diferent signatures and I want to insert one of \n>that signatures using a keyboard command. So for a message I will insert a \n>signature, but for another message I will insert a different signature.\n>\n>Is it possible? I am using sedit for my messages.\n\nAhm, if you don't object to using a mouse for such things, exmh has \nthe ability to insert different sigs on demand. Create a bunch of \ndifferent sig files, all beginning with .signature, and at start up, \nexmh will load them all. In the Sedit window, you'll see a Sign...\nmenu item which will allow you to select between each of the listed \n.signature files for *that* e-mail. You can actually use several if \nyou'd like (though I don't remember what Preferences... option allows \nfor this).\n\nHowever, the signature gets added on send, not inserted directly into \nthe existing Sedit window prior to composition.\n\nI currently have 6 different sig files I can choose between.\n\nAdditionally, if a .signature file has the execute bit turned on, \nexmh will attempt to execute the file and use the stdout of the \nscript as your signature.\n\nI hope this helps some.\n-- \n\nSeeya,\nPaul\n--\n\tIt may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing,\n but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.\n\n\t If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Just got this ... I was just reading mail, but in a very dark\nroom, where the keyboard is illuminated mostly by the light from\nthe (laptop) screen. I think I put my fingers on the wrong keys.\n(I mostly use the keyboard exclusively while running exmh).\n\nThis is from today's cvs (the fixes for the problems I mentioned\nyesterday are included) - I eventually managed to contact the cvs\nserver.\n\nexpected integer but got \"\"\n while executing\n\"incr m\"\n (procedure \"MhSeqExpand\" line 12)\n invoked from within\n\"MhSeqExpand $folder $msgids\"\n (procedure \"MhSeq\" line 2)\n invoked from within\n\"MhSeq $folder $seq $how $oldmsgids $msgids\"\n (procedure \"Mh_SequenceUpdate\" line 54)\n invoked from within \n\"Mh_SequenceUpdate $folder replace $seq $msgids\"\n (procedure \"Seq_Set\" line 4)\n invoked from within \n\"Seq_Set $folder cur $msgid\"\n (procedure \"Mh_SetCur\" line 7) \n invoked from within \n\"Mh_SetCur $exmh(folder) $msgid\"\n (procedure \"MsgChange\" line 5) \n invoked from within \n\"MsgChange - noshow\"\n invoked from within \n\"time [list MsgChange $msgid $show\"\n (procedure \"Msg_Change\" line 3)\n invoked from within \n\"Msg_Change $select(sel) noshow\"\n (procedure \"SelectTypein\" line 14) \n invoked from within\n\"SelectTypein .mid.right.top.msg -\"\n (command bound to event)\n\nkre\n\nps: I have the sequences window vertical instead of horizontal, and the\n\"colours from the ftoc\" stuff all deleted, and it is looking just about as\ngood as the old unseen window used to look. I still have some work to\ndo to make it a little nicer (listboxes seem to have some strange habits)\nand then I need to make it all optional and parameterized, at the minute\nI'm just embedding stuff in the code, much quicker for prototyping. Once\nits done, I'll send a patch for someone to look over.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Ray Dermody's [DERMODYR@ITCARLOW.IE] 20 lines of wisdom included:\n> Hi All,\n> The serial number in our hosts files on our DNS server has gone \n> corrupt e.g. 2002082999999999901 should be 20002082901.\n> Its okay to set this back to todays date but I understand that our \n> secondary and terninary DNS servers will only update from the master \n> hosts file if the master host serial number is greater than the current \n> serial number in the hosts file.\n> Is there any way I can reset this on the secondary and terninary DNS \n> servers?\n\nOnce you have the serial changed on the master DNS server, remove\nthe appropiate zone(s) on your slaves, and refresh your DNS servers.\n\nBind has a special case, if you set the serial to '0' I think. DNS &\nBind should have something on that.\n\n-- \n Philip Reynolds \n RFC Networks tel: 01 8832063\nwww.rfc-networks.ie fax: 01 8832041\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "In a message dated: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:53:55 CDT\nUlises Ponce said:\n\n>Thanks Paul,\n>That is the way I am doing right now, but I would like to NOT use the mouse \n>for such things. Any other clue?\n\nThe best I can think of is to figure out what the command being \nissued by exmh is that selects and inserts the sig and bind that to a \nkey sequence. That shouldn't be *too* difficult, it's just a matter \nof figuring out the tcl (something my perl-based brain isn't excited \nabout :)\n-- \n\nSeeya,\nPaul\n--\n\tIt may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing,\n but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.\n\n\t If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>\n> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:23:17 +0200\n>\n> \n> Oooops!\n> \n> Doesn't work at all. Got this on startup and on any attempt to change folde\n> r (which fail)\n\n~sigh~ I'd already found that and checked it in....apparently I did so after \nyou checked it out and before you sent this mail...I hoped I was fast enough \nthat you wouldn't see it.\n\nTry again!\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>\n> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:14:20 +0200\n>\n> \n> >>>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, \"Chris\" == Chris Garrigues wrote:\n> \n> Chris> --==_Exmh_267413022P Content-Type: text/plain;\n> Chris> charset=us-ascii\n> \n> +> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm> Date: Thu, 22 Aug\n> +> 2002 20:23:17 +0200\n> \n> +> Oooops!\n> \n> +> Doesn't work at all. Got this on startup and on any attempt to\n> +> change folde r (which fail)\n> \n> Chris> ~sigh~ I'd already found that and checked it in....apparently\n> Chris> I did so after you checked it out and before you sent this\n> Chris> mail...I hoped I was fast enough that you wouldn't see it.\n> \n> Chris> Try again!\n> \n> \n> Works like a charm. It's like the box was on drugs or something. \n> \n> However, while testing it a selected my favourite folder (l-k) and \n> marked ~400 messages unread. THAT took forever, or about as long as \n> Catch-up Unseen did before. Any suggestions?\n\nThat's fixed now. I thought I'd caught all the occurrences of that particular \ncoding stupidity.\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | " Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 02:05:19 +0700\n From: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.oz.au>\n Message-ID: <16323.1030043119@munnari.OZ.AU>\n\nWhen I said ...\n\n | This is from today's cvs\n\nthat will translate as \"yesterday's\" now of course (before the most\nrecent set of changes (catchup speedups, and so on)).\n\nkre\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "HELP.\nI had GPG working.\nI updated from version gnupg-1.0.6 to gnupg-1.0.7.\nThis moved gpg from /usr/bin to /usr/local/bin and I changed the path\nin the exmh 'executable'.\n\nWith that fix, EXMH knows I have GPG, and puts the line\n\n\tCheck the signature with GnuPG\n\nin messages with GnuPG signatures. But punching the line ALWAYS\ngives\n\n Signature made Thu Aug 29 00:27:17 2002 MDT using DSA key ID BDDF997A\n Can't check signature: public key not found\n\nSo, something else is missing.\nCan somebody tell me what it is,- Ive tried grepping on everything\nthat I can think of with no luck at all.\n-- \n Reg.Clemens\n reg@dwf.com\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "While I was playing with the past issues, it annoyed me that there was\nno easy way to make the log stop growing (I don't mean to truncate it,\nI mean to just freeze it for a while).\n\nThe following patch adds a new button to the log window, which allows\nthe log to be switched on/off (the button says \"Disable\" when the\nlog is enabled, and the button disables it, and \"Enable\" when the log\nis frozen, and the button enables it again).\n\nkre\n\n--- main.tcl\tWed Aug 21 15:01:48 2002\n+++ /usr/local/lib/exmh-2.5/main.tcl\tWed Aug 28 17:36:59 2002\n@@ -385,6 +385,9 @@\n \tExmhLogCreate\n \twm withdraw $exmh(logTop)\n }\n+ if {! $exmh(logWrite)} {\n+\treturn\n+ }\n if [info exists exmh(log)] {\n \tcatch {\n #\t $exmh(log) insert end \" [bw_delta] \"\n@@ -407,6 +410,9 @@\n set exmh(logWindow) 1\n Exwin_Toplevel .log \"Exmh Log\" Log\n set exmh(logTop) .log\n+ set exmh(logDisableBut) \\\n+\t[Widget_AddBut $exmh(logTop).but swap \"Disable\" ExmhLogToggle]\n+ set exmh(logWrite) 1\n Widget_AddBut $exmh(logTop).but trunc \"Truncate\" ExmhLogTrunc\n Widget_AddBut $exmh(logTop).but save \"Save To File\" ExmhLogSave\n set exmh(logYview) 1\n@@ -457,6 +463,12 @@\n } msg] {\n \tExmh_Status \"Cannot save log: $msg\" error\n }\n+}\n+proc ExmhLogToggle {} {\n+ global exmh\n+\n+ set exmh(logWrite) [expr ! $exmh(logWrite)]\n+ $exmh(logDisableBut) configure -text [lindex {\"Enable \" Disable} $exmh(logWrite)]\n }\n #### Misc\n \n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\n\nVincent Cunniffe wrote:\n| Justin MacCarthy wrote:\n|\n|> I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon.\n :-)\n|\n|\n| Mailman ;-)\n|\n| Trust me, you do *not* want to running your own mailing lists\n| on your own software.\n|\n| You'll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something\n| high-voltage to stick your fingers into.\n\nAll things considered, I get that effect with Mailman, but the viable\nalternatives are ezmlm, which is loonware and I'm avoiding on principle,\nand majordomo, which seems to have stagnated. Oh, and there's apparently\nsomething called SmartList which is a bitch to set up.\n\nWaider.\n- --\nwaider@waider.ie / Yes, it /is/ very personal of me\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)\nComment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org\n\niQEVAwUBPXNE16HbXyzZsAb3AQH2KQf/XqeOMaHNXAlzbmgd5iYd9VQaAgWAR2DQ\nkdpz0NbECR2OS7PJoLY9lsPKgNshpJcDZIRsxJvXmfp5YRNq0AyP0HGGwRvWgjgB\n0N9HG/Rgez7S5RhU79RAuhpFb9XO1XzMI0gSkDHSGefQsUOAZ69vZVLLsiRiyHFy\n4u+vrPVTP0rYR7haX41JXu42GVWfT2K2DDFftAimqGCsJnu2MXcMI/Ptq1rtxhXD\nWZhxCR+FAwirEk8Yz9Drl8+gJL0YJQFSoWumQzqLKKutx1lJvv7OS4yDjGRaQpxm\nJmq8lifudZayccbixx7ZcXMSlpP4C45Wj5XJSYW8RCjU1bgxTqhMbQ==\n=eG8X\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n> > > \n> > > Dag> but when procmail runs it it doesn't, presumably as it\n> > > Dag> doesn't have the authorization to communicate with the\n> > > Dag> laptop, beeing another user?\n> > > \n> > > I don't know anything about the KDE sound server but I'd guess \n> > > your problem is the \"environment\" in which procmail runs. You \n> > > don't say what procmail is running from. In my case, for \n> > > example, procmail is run from fetchmail which is run by a cron \n> > > job.\n> > \n> > Sorry about that,\n> > procmail is run by the qmail delivery agent to presort all mail\n> > I get.\n> > But anyway, I found an error message in procmail.log, which solved\n> > the problem.\n> > The following line in my delivery script seems to work fine now:\n> > \n> > DISPLAY=<laptop>:0.0 artsplay <soundfile>\n> \n> BTW, if you use exmhwrapper (found in the misc directory), you can generalize \n> this to\n> \n> DISPLAY=`cat $HOME/.exmh/.display` artsplay <soundfile>\n\nYes, but that probably means that you have to have exmh\nrunning on the laptop to get the notification?\nWith exmh getting upset by two instances running at the\nsame time, this creates the problem that I cannot run to the\nclosest compter to check out the new mail.\n\nBut thanks for the hint, I might use that for some other\nhack ;-)\n\nBRGDS\n\nDag\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\nWhen I receive a message that has a line starting with \"From \", it's\nbroken into two messages. I get my mail from /var/spool/mail. The\nprogram that incorporates mail thinks that the \"From \" line starts a new\nmessage.\n\nMy sysadmins have told me that the sending mail client is supposed to \nescape lines begining with \"From \". EXMH (2.5) doesn't do this. Should \nit? It appears that my MH is MH 6.8. Does NMH fix this?\n\nJason D. M. Rennie\nMIT AI Lab\njrennie@ai.mit.edu\n(617) 253-5339\nhttp://www.ai.mit.edu/~jrennie/\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "This is not an exmh problem, but an interaction between sendmail, Solaris and \nmh.\n\nYour sysadmin is wrong. It is the responsibility of the receiving mail \nserver to escape lines beginning with \"From \" if they choose to turn on that \nfacility. It is not the responsibility for email clients to cater to the \nstupid design of the unix mail spool, and Sun's even more stupid decision to \nrely on \"Content-length:\" instead of dealing with this problem. Since mh is \nunaware of \"Content-length:\", rcvstore gags trying to parse messages from the \nspool.\n\nI had this same problem. There are several ways to fix it:\n\n1) Get your mail administrator to add the \"E\" flag to your sendmail. This \nmeans you will never see a line beginning with \"From \". Any such line will \nlook like \">From \".\n\n2) There is a patch to mh to make it respect \"Content-length:\". When I was \nhaving this problem, porting this patch to nmh was low on the priority list, \nthen nmh development stalled for a long time. I doubt it has been done, but \nyou can check with the nmh list at nmh-workers@mhost.com to find out for sure.\n\n3) You can learn to use procmail, invoking rcvstore directly instead of \nletting sendmail put your incoming mail into the spool. This avoids the \nwhole issue. rcvstore only deals with a single message at a time, and \neverything works.\n-- \nJim McMaster\nmailto:mcmasjc@tatanka.stortek.com\n\n\nIn message <200210091657.g99GvDmX025433@life.ai.mit.edu>, Jason Rennie said:\n> \n> When I receive a message that has a line starting with \"From \", it's\n> broken into two messages. I get my mail from /var/spool/mail. The\n> program that incorporates mail thinks that the \"From \" line starts a new\n> message.\n> \n> My sysadmins have told me that the sending mail client is supposed to \n> escape lines begining with \"From \". EXMH (2.5) doesn't do this. Should \n> it? It appears that my MH is MH 6.8. Does NMH fix this?\n> \n> Jason D. M. Rennie\n> MIT AI Lab\n> jrennie@ai.mit.edu\n> (617) 253-5339\n> http://www.ai.mit.edu/~jrennie/\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Exmh-users mailing list\n> Exmh-users@redhat.com\n> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n> \n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "James> This is not an exmh problem, but an interaction between sendmail,\nJames> Solaris and mh.\n\nCorrect.\n\nJames> Your sysadmin is wrong. It is the responsibility of the receiving mail\nJames> server to escape lines beginning with \"From \" if they choose to turn\nJames> on that facility. It is not the responsibility for email clients to\nJames> cater to the stupid design of the unix mail spool, and Sun's even more\nJames> stupid decision to rely on \"Content-length:\" instead of dealing with\nJames> this problem. Since mh is unaware of \"Content-length:\", rcvstore gags\nJames> trying to parse messages from the spool.\n\nAlso correct. In fairness, though I cannot defend the Content-Length: header\nas I consider it brain damage in the extreme, Sun inherited this from AT&T.\n\nJames> Get your mail administrator to add the \"E\" flag to your sendmail.\nJames> This means you will never see a line beginning with \"From \". Any such\nJames> line will look like \">From \".\n\nSpecifically, you will need to find a line in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf that\nstarts with \"Mlocal\" such as:\n\n[4784] grep ^Mlocal /etc/mail/sendmail.cf\nMlocal, P=/usr/lib/mail.local, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qPSXfmnz9E, S=EnvFromSMTP/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,\n[4785] \n\nand make sure that 'E' appears in the long list of flags following \"F=\".\nIf your sys-admin uses m4 to generate sendmail.cf, and any good sys-admin\nshould, then here is the magic line for the .mc file:\n\nMODIFY_MAILER_FLAGS(`LOCAL', `+E')dnl\n\nJames> You can learn to use procmail, invoking rcvstore directly instead of \nJames> letting sendmail put your incoming mail into the spool. This avoids\nJames> the whole issue. rcvstore only deals with a single message at a time,\nJames> and everything works.\n\nAlso correct, though procmail per se is not needed, as other filters (such\nas slocal, which is part of the [n]mh distribution) do the trick just as well.\n\n-- John\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\nmcmasjc@tatanka.stortek.com said:\n> 3) You can learn to use procmail,\n\nCan this be done via .forward? I don't have root on the machine my\nmailbox is on, and I'm absolutely certain that a complaint to the sysadmin\nabout sendmail will get a simple response: shut down the daemon and tell\nme to use Outlook. :(\n\n--\n73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin KENNY GE Corporate Research & Development\nkennykb@crd.ge.com P. O. Box 8, Bldg. K-1, Rm. 5B36A\n Schenectady, New York 12301-0008 USA\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "In message <200210091843.OAA01268@hippolyta.crd.ge.com>, Kevin Kenny said:\n> \n> mcmasjc@tatanka.stortek.com said:\n> > 3) You can learn to use procmail,\n> \nIt absolutely can be done from .forward. I am in the same situation as you, \nand that is how I do it.\n-- \nJim McMaster\nmailto:mcmasjc@tatanka.stortek.com\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "In message <200210091925.g99JPGfJ001534@fsck.intern.waldner.priv.at>, Robert \nWa\nldner said:\n> \n> \n> On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:43:32 EDT, Kevin Kenny writes:\n> >> 3) You can learn to use procmail,\n> \n> >Can this be done via .forward?\n> \n> make your .forward contain only the following line:\n> \"|/usr/bin/procmail\"\n> (incl. the quotes, your procmail binary may be in another path)\n> \nCheck the procmail documentation. They actually recommend:\n\n\"|IFS=' '&&p=(PATH/TO/PROCMAIL)&&test -f $p&&exec $p -f-||exit \n75#(UNIQUE_STRING)\"\n\nI don't know what this does, but it is explained in the doc.\n-- \nJim McMaster\nmailto:mcmasjc@tatanka.stortek.com\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Justin MacCarthy wrote:\n> I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon. :-) \n\nMailman ;-)\n\nTrust me, you do *not* want to running your own mailing lists\non your own software.\n\nYou'll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something\nhigh-voltage to stick your fingers into.\n\nRegards,\n\nVin\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["Jason Rennie <jrennie@ai.mit.edu> writes:\n\n> My sysadmins have told me that the sending mail client is supposed to \n> escape lines begining with \"From \". EXMH (2.5) doesn't do this. Should \n> it? It appears that my MH is MH 6.8. Does NMH fix this?\n\nActually, this issue used to escalate into a religious war. The \"From \" \nenvelope is an artifact of the mbox mailbox format, and from that \nperspective it should be the mail server that stores its mailboxes in\nmbox format that should be responsible for escaping lines beginning with \n\"From \". On the other hand, this breaks the assumption that the mail \ntransport only touches the message headers and leaves the message body \nalone.\nThings like pgp signatures break when the mail server changes the message \nbody.\n\nAlso, strictly speaking, the mbox format envelope (or for us old-timers, \nthe UUCP envelope) isn't just any line beginning with \"From \". It's really \n\"From\", a single space, a valid email address, two spaces, and a valid \ndate.\nFor example:\n\n From ptardif@nbnet.nb.ca Sun Jul 14 08:53:57 2002\n ^ ^^\n\n\n-- \nJohn Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix \nIM: jabr@jabber.blu.org / abreauj@aim / abreauj@yahoo / 28611923@icq\nEmail jabr@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9\nPGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99\n\n Some people say, \"The enemy of my enemy is my friend.\"\n I often respond, \"When elephants fight, it's the grass\n that gets trampled.\"\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | "On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:41:20 +0200\nMatthias Saou <matthias@egwn.net> wrote:\n\n# So did my build if the original source is what you were mentioning\n# ;-) One drawback : They changed from pspell to aspell apparently,\n# and it requires aspell >= 0.50 which isn't even in Rawhide, so spell\n# checking is disabled for now until I take a decision about it :-/\n\nOOps, I didn't see the webpage get updated. I saw the new claws, and\nchecked your site, forgot about it for half a day and then posted\nhere. You beat me once again! \n\n# If I build recent aspell packages, they may not be upgraded when\n# ungrating to the next Red Hat Linux release (the final version of\n# the limbos and(null) betas), which is maybe not really desired. I'll\n# probably test and see...\n\nOh yeah, I was following this thread in the sylpheed-claws list. Very\ninteresting stuff. I might have to stick w/ 0.8.2 until aspell gets\nupdated in Red Hat.\n\n-- \nJesse Keating\nj2Solutions.net\nMondo DevTeam (www.mondorescue.org)\n\nWas I helpful? Let others know:\n http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Jesse wrote :\n\n> Oh yeah, I was following this thread in the sylpheed-claws list. Very\n> interesting stuff. I might have to stick w/ 0.8.2 until aspell gets\n> updated in Red Hat.\n\nThen this may be 6 months or more since my guess after 3 beta releases is\nthat the freeze on package versions for inclusion in the next stable\nrelease (n+1) has already happened, thus you'll have to wait at least for\nRed Hat Linux... n+2 :-)\n\nThis is why (if it doesn't break anything), I'll maybe release recent\naspell packages. But to be sure I'll need to do some testing ;-)\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n\nHi,\n\nFirst you have to get the win32 files !!!\nthen , you configure using --enable_win32 \n\nOn Fri, 2002-09-20 at 13:11, Axel Thimm wrote:\n> Hi,\n> \n> has anyone an answer for me? The mplayer documentation still suggests to use\n> them for x86 architectures.\n> \n> Thanks. :)\n> \n> Regards, Axel.\n> \n> On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 11:39:03PM +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:\n> > Are there perhaps licensing issues, which forbid such a practice? Or any other\n> > reasons?\n> > \n> > The reason I ask is that I have seen performance and also some feature\n> > differences (fullscreen w/o keeping aspect ratio, visual artifacts on NVIDIA)\n> > comparing with or without the Win32 codecs. The mplayer authors seem to\n> > recommend using them for x86 architectures.\n> > \n> > Beware, I am no mplayer/codecs/whatever expert, I may be totally lost ...\n> \n> -- \n> Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de\n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> RPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\n> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n> \n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hello,\n\nI'm new to the list.\nI wanted to find out who tried recompiling a working apt rpm for (null) or \npsyche. I would like to get good GStreamer packages done by monday when \nit's released.\n\nBTW, in the archive I saw some posts regarding the GStreamer repository. \nI'm not sure why they were posted on this list ;) In any case, I'm the rpm \nmaintainer, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask.\n\nI was trying to get an updated apt rpm from http://dave.cridland.net/, but \nthe http port is closed. Dave, if you're reading this, please let me know \nwhere I can get the updated rpm.\n\nThanks,\nThomas\n\n-- \n\nThe Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/\n<-*- -*->\nJust like you said\nyou leave my life\nI'm better off dead\n<-*- thomas@apestaart.org -*->\nURGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Thomas wrote :\n\n> I wanted to find out who tried recompiling a working apt rpm for (null)\n> or psyche. I would like to get good GStreamer packages done by monday\n> when it's released.\n\nI have a working apt 0.5.4cnc7 package for Red Hat Linux 8.0. It will be\navailable at the same second the distribution will, and so will a complete\napt repository already including quite a few of my packages updated for Red\nHat Linux 8.0.\n\nI didn't want to say all this before Monday, but as the new release already\nleaked from many places, and official statements made about it, it\nshouldn't be a big deal :-/\n\nI'll keep you all posted on Monday! They'll even be a big apt-related\nsurprise! ;-))))\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi,\n\nRed Hat 8.0 is released tomorrow (monday). I took some time out to make \nRPMs of GStreamer for it.\n\nAll of them (core, plugins and player) have been uploaded to the apt \nrepository in a new \"redhat-80-i386\" directory.\n\nThe repository for dependencies is again called \"deps\", and the one for \nthe gstreamer rpms is \"redhat\", because this time around the base distro \ncontains all the necessary packages.\n\nA screenshot of Red Hat 8.0 running gst-player is up at\nhttp://thomas.apestaart.org/download/screenshots/redhat-80-gst-player.png\n\n\nHere are some known issues with the resulting rpms :\n\na) gstreamer-nautilus isn't built, the package got renamed and I don't \nhave a -devel package for it yet\n\nb) the c++ plugins have problems which I haven't been able to resolve.\nHere are the errors:\n\nINFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin \n/usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load: Error loading plugin \n/usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so, reason: /usr/lib/libaviplay-0.7.so.0: \nundefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE\n\nPlugin /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load\nDEBUG(15299: 0)gst_plugin_load_plugin:161: attempt to load plugin \n\"/usr/lib/gst/libgstmodplug.so\"\nINFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin \n/usr/lib/gst/libgstmodplug.so failed to load: Error loading plugin \n/usr/lib/gst/libgstmodplug.so, reason: /usr/lib/gst/libgstmodplug.so: \nundefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0\n\nI'm not sure how to fix this; running strings on the libs in /usr/lib \nreveals that there are other libs that have these symbols, so there must \nbe something straightforward that should fix this.\nIf anyone has a suggestion, please share ;)\n\nThomas\n\n-- \n\nThe Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/\n<-*- -*->\nKiss me please kiss me\nKiss me out of desire baby not consolation\nOh you know it makes me so angry cause I know that in time\nI'll only make you cry\n<-*- thomas@apestaart.org -*->\nURGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\nHash: SHA1\n\nYour actual serial number is 1519761310 - from a dig I've just done.\n\nTry resetting the zone number to 2002082901 - some of your secondaries seem \nto have a serial number below that, so they clearly regard 1519761310 as \nbeing less than 2002082601.\n\nThat should enable them to pick up the new zonefile.\n\nT.\n\nAt 11:49 02/09/2002 +0100, Ray Dermody wrote:\n>Hi All,\n>The serial number in our hosts files on our DNS server has gone\n>corrupt e.g. 2002082999999999901 should be 20002082901.\n>Its okay to set this back to todays date but I understand that our\n>secondary and terninary DNS servers will only update from the master\n>hosts file if the master host serial number is greater than the current\n>serial number in the hosts file.\n>Is there any way I can reset this on the secondary and terninary DNS\n>servers?\n>\n>Ray Dermody\n>Computing Services Technician\n>I.T. Carlow\n>0503 76271\n>\n>\n>--\n>Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\n>http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\n>List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\nVIA NET.WORKS Ireland is a wholly owned Limited Irish Company.\nAlthough connected to the VIA Global Network, VIA NET.WORKS Ireland\nis separate from and is not owned by VIA NET.WORKS Inc. or any\nmember of the VIA NET.WORKS Inc. Group.\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>\n\niQA/AwUBPXNFo76WYZbx1eG3EQLfNwCfakNapOkbg26j1jqQQEHgIWFd4s0AoP4J\nGLBtgr1K8fzYlnnRNcfT3fSt\n=Rurr\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Thomas wrote :\n\n> > On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote:\n> > \n> > > INFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin \n> > > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load: Error loading plugin \n> > > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so, reason: /usr/lib/libaviplay-0.7.so.0:\n> > > \n> > > undefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE\n> \n> > Are you using the same version of GCC to compile the plugin as its C++\n> > dependencies?\n> \n> Yes, I am. Everything is built inside a chroot. I think it isn't\n> linking to a lib somewhere, I'm just not sure what lib it should\n> preloading here. Anyway to find out which one it is ?\n\nLooks like a problem with the avifile you've rebuilt... I've been unable to\nrecompile successfully the latest version on 8.0 :-/\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "> > > > INFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin \n> > > > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load: Error loading plugin \n> > > > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so, reason: /usr/lib/libaviplay-0.7.so.0:\n> > > > \n> > > > undefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE\n> > \n> > > Are you using the same version of GCC to compile the plugin as its C++\n> > > dependencies?\n> > \n> > Yes, I am. Everything is built inside a chroot. I think it isn't\n> > linking to a lib somewhere, I'm just not sure what lib it should\n> > preloading here. Anyway to find out which one it is ?\n> \n> Looks like a problem with the avifile you've rebuilt... I've been unable to\n> recompile successfully the latest version on 8.0 :-/\n\nHm, it is built inside the same chroot. aviplay works (well it would if I \nhad XV, I get X errors ;)). But it doesn't complain about linker \nproblems. So I suppose my avifile library on itself is compiled ok.\n\nSigh, avifile is one of the worst packages out there, in all aspects - \nnaming of tarballs, not ever releasing an actual package, versioning of \nlibraries, API stability, ...\n\nThomas\n\n -- \n\nThe Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/\n<-*- -*->\ncos when i needed someone\nyou left me floored\nthe feeling is gone\ni can't let go\nyou know that i'd change if i had the love it takes\n<-*- thomas@apestaart.org -*->\nURGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Peter Peltonen (peter.peltonen@iki.fi) wrote*:\n>BTW: I just a found a quite nice looking apt repositry for\n>all kinds of audio apps at\n>\n>http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/\n>\n\n_Very_ comprehensive audio app collection, Thanks.\n\n--\nThat's \"angle\" as in geometry.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Indeed - I was thinking of getting back into doing mods - nice to see an \napt-get'able soundtracker there :-)\n\nAnyone know where to get a good selection of samples/loops?\n\n--On Monday, September 30, 2002 07:14:31 +0000 Angles Puglisi \n<angles@aminvestments.com> wrote:\n\n> _Very_ comprehensive audio app collection, Thanks.\n\n\n\n -- \\m/ --\n \"...if I seem super human I have been misunderstood.\" (c) Dream Theater\n mark@talios.com - ICQ: 1934853 JID: talios@myjabber.net\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi.\n\nAre there any reasons _not_ to use the new apt releases on RH 7.x?\n\n-- \nreiserfsck ist bekannt dafür, daß es leere Dateisysteme zurückläßt.\nGut, formaljuristisch hat er das Dateisystem in einen wohldefinierten\nZustand versetzt, aber ... nunja. Man erwartet schon irgendwie, daß\nnoch ein paar Daten drauf sind danach. -- Felix v. Leitner, dasr\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Hesty wrote :\n\n> I know they're all included in the freshrpms alsa-null\n> directory.\n\nNow that Psyche is released, that directory was erased.\n\n> I was worried that with the new mplayer-pre8, these\n> packages might break something. Is there any mplayer\n> package which includes all the options for -vo and\n> -ao? Is that because alsa is not included in RH, hence\n> the lack of alsa option for mplayer from freshrpms?\n> Or is there some swtiches to enable these options\n> during \n> rpm build?\n\nFor all my recent packages that support --with and --without options, I've\nput them in the %description section. See for instance :\nhttp://psyche.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=80\n\nWhere you can see :\nAvailable rpmbuild rebuild options :\n--with : alsa\n--without : aalib lirc libdv arts\n\nThe ogle package has also a --with alsa option, and I've had a bug report\nabout xine that I apparently unintentionally compiled with ALSA directly\n:-/\n\nI'd like to aks this on the rpm-zzzlist : Would a new dependency of 250k, the\nalsa-lib package, for many packages (mplayer, ogle, xine) be a problem for\nthe freshrpms.net packages users? As I really feel like blending ALSA in\nnow, especially since I've just spent some time recompiling alsa-kernel\npackage for all the Psyche kernels!!!\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Ralf wrote :\n\n> Are there any reasons _not_ to use the new apt releases on RH 7.x?\n\nHmmm... I don't see any :-)\n\nMy main concern is that when rebuilding the recent packages I've made for\nPsyche on Valhalla, I'd need to lower the \"Release:\" tag (to keep an\nupgrade working), and that would f*ck up my CVS repository which is on my\nValhalla box (well, I'm exagerating, It'll just make it more difficult for\nme) ;-)\nSure, there are easy ways around this, but the easiest for me will be to\nwait until I upgrade my main box to Psyche and have Valhalla only on a\nsecondary rebuild system.\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Matthias Saou wrote:\n> \n> I'd like to aks this on the rpm-zzzlist : Would a new dependency of 250k, the\n> alsa-lib package, for many packages (mplayer, ogle, xine) be a problem for\n> the freshrpms.net packages users? As I really feel like blending ALSA in\n> now, especially since I've just spent some time recompiling alsa-kernel\n> package for all the Psyche kernels!!!\n\nI don't know a lot about ALSA, but use custom kernels for many of the \nmachines -- would this mean, in order to get mplayer (eg) to work, I'd \nfirst have to compile a custom kernel option? or kernel module? Since I \nwouldn't have your alsa-kernel(??) installed, would that mean alsa-libs \nand so on won't install?\n\n(I guess, in short, if it *requires* the shipped kernel to be used, I'd \nbe against --with-alsa as a default?)\n\n-te\n\n-- \nTroy Engel, Systems Engineer\nCool as the other side of the pillow\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Hesty wrote :\n\n> > Where you can see :\n> > Available rpmbuild rebuild options :\n> > --with : alsa\n> > --without : aalib lirc libdv arts\n> \n> Does this mean when rebuilding the package, I'll\n> simply\n> type: \n> > rpmbuild --rebuild <package>.src.rpm --with alsa ?\n\nYes it does. And if you're missing the dependencies needed for the selected\noptions, you'll even be informed! (for ALSA, you'll need alsa-lib-devel for\nexample)\n\n> > I'd like to aks this on the rpm-zzzlist : Would a new\n> > dependency of 250k, the\n> > alsa-lib package, for many packages (mplayer, ogle,\n> > xine) be a problem for\n> > the freshrpms.net packages users? As I really feel\n> > like blending ALSA in\n> > now, especially since I've just spent some time\n> > recompiling alsa-kernel\n> > package for all the Psyche kernels!!!\n> > \n> \n> I'll have no problem at all with this and you get my\n> vote on this one. \n> \n> One problem with alsa-kernel that I've experienced:\n> everytime RH issues a new kernel update, I have to\n> rebuild my alsa-kernel to match the new kernel.\n\nYup... unfortunately the alsa-kernel needs to be rebuilt for each kernel,\nand there's no way of avoiding it.\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi.\n\nMatthias Saou <matthias@egwn.net> wrote:\n\n> repository... and there's where the problem will be : It will say that\n> there are two synaptic-0.24-fr1 packages (one installed, the other\n> available) with the same version but different dependencies :-/\n> That's why I always keep package versions lower for older distributions.\n\nAh, now I see. This is a non-issue here, so I'll rebuild locally :)\n\n-- \nDog for sale: eats anything and is fond of children.\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Is it possible to use new apt to do (null) to RH8 upgrade?\n\nEven if it's possible, are there good reasons why maybe I should not do it and\njust use the RH iso's (I don't think RH8 will upgrade from (null), maybe up2date\nwill)?\n\n--\nThat's \"angle\" as in geometry.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "> Is it possible to use new apt to do (null) to RH8 upgrade?\n\nIt might be, don't think anyone tried it yet.\n\n> Even if it's possible, are there good reasons why maybe I should not do it and\n> just use the RH iso's (I don't think RH8 will upgrade from (null), maybe up2date\n> will)?\n\nYes ;)\n\nfirst off, redhat does not support upgrading from beta's to the released \nversion. That doesn't mean it can't work, it means nobody tried it, they \nsure didn't test it or fix anything to make it work, and you're on your \nown.\n\nsecond, historically a new .0 numbers mostly means \"so much has been \nchanged that you might have problems upgrading from any previous release \nanyway\". So, historically, most users installing a .0 release do this \nfrom scratch anyway, doing upgrades throughout x.0->x.y.\n\nIf you want to avoid problems, bite the bullet and reinstall ;)\n\nThomas\n\n -- \n\nThe Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/\n<-*- -*->\nAnd every time she sneezes\nI think it's love and oh lord\nI'm not ready for this sort of thing\n<-*- thomas@apestaart.org -*->\nURGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "I remember apt-get dist-upgrading from 7.2 to 7.3 fine, so it -should- \nwork, maybe :)\n\n--On Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:27:47 +0200 Thomas Vander Stichele \n<thomas@urgent.rug.ac.be> wrote:\n\n> It might be, don't think anyone tried it yet.\n\n\n\n -- \\m/ --\n \"...if I seem super human I have been misunderstood.\" (c) Dream Theater\n mark@talios.com - ICQ: 1934853 JID: talios@myjabber.net\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Angles Puglisi wrote:\n\n\n> Is it possible to use new apt to do (null) to RH8 upgrade?\n\nPossible - should be, it was possible to update to (null) from RH7.3 with \napt. Did that on my laptop and well.. it was painfull to say the least \n(including a ecovery from totally corrupted rpmdb) Don't expect it to be \nan easy 'dist-upgrade' at any rate, so much stuff has changed and apt \ndoesn't always handle all that well the way dependencies are set in \nRHL.\n\n> \n> Even if it's possible, are there good reasons why maybe I should not do\n> it and just use the RH iso's (I don't think RH8 will upgrade from\n> (null), maybe up2date will)?\n\nIt's possible but not supported by RH. I've upgraded both my laptop and my \nhome box from (null) to RH8.0 and didn't encounter any issues though.\n\n-- \n\t- Panu -\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Julian wrote :\n\n> I would appreciate it if you could get Gabber packages for Red Hat 8. I \n> will be making a new release soon, but even in the meantime, 0.8.7 \n> packages would be ok.\n> \n> I know that in the beta, red hat was using a modified version of \n> gnome-libs which is incompatible with the latest gnomemm. If this is \n> still the case in 8, I can send you a patch which makes gnomemm work \n> again...\n\nI'm facing another problem right now. It looks like libsigc++ is no longer\nincluded in the distribution, and gtkmm won't compile without it :-/\nI guess I'll have to repackage it myself for 8.0 (assuming it's possible).\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.28 0.15 0.10\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | " |::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::|\n\n IT's Monday 520 02 September 2002\n\n |::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::|\n\n\n\nSTUDENT LIFE BEGINS WITH LINUX\nby\nJohn Sterne\n\nThe launch last month of a marketing special interest group by the\nIrish Linux Users Group (ILUG) - open source and marketing, it\nseems, might not be mutually exclusive concepts - has already\nsparked an interesting initiative at University College Cork. When\nthe new academic year begins at UCC, every incoming student will\nbe offered a copy of Red Hat Linux 7.3.\n\nILUG member Braun Brelin proposed this promotion, when he ran a\ntraining class for staff at the UCC computer science department.\nBrelin, who is the director of technology at OpenApp, says that the\nLinux offer could be extended to any or all of the other Irish\nuniversities.\n\nThe user group is tapping into an international Red Hat programme\nthat aims to introduce students at all levels to the open source\nstyle of computing. The Linux distributor runs an 'educational\nchannel' to reach this audience, bundling educational software\nwith its operating environment and offering networked support\nservices to eligible applicants. This scheme was originally designed\nto suit the educational structures in the US, but is now available to\nschools and universities throughout the world.\n\nRed Hat Linux 7.3 incorporates ease of use and maintenance\nfeatures and is intended to counter objections that Linux is hard to\nmaster on personal systems.\n\nThe Linux-for-all project at UCC could also raise the profile of Red\nHat Ireland. Based in Cork, this operation has run shared financial\nservices for other Red Hat offices in Europe since 2000. Until now\nits involvement with users in Ireland has been fairly limited,\nalthough it does sometimes refer them to other Red Hat offices in\nEurope that offer consulting or technical support services.\n\nDavid Owens, Red Hat's director of global logistics and production,\nsees the formation of the ILUG marketing group as a reason to take\na more proactive approach. In the last three months, he notes, his\noffice in Cork has received more and more calls from Irish\ncompanies that are interested in adopting Linux and has introduced\nsome to Red Hat pre-sales consultants.\n\n\n-------------\nMany thanks are due to Braun and David for working together on this one.\n\nRegards\nL.\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Matthias wrote :\n\n> I'm facing another problem right now. It looks like libsigc++ is no\n> longer included in the distribution, and gtkmm won't compile without it\n> :-/ I guess I'll have to repackage it myself for 8.0 (assuming it's\n> possible).\n\nWell, I've made an updated libsigc++ 1.0.4 package. It rebuilds cleanly on\n7.3 but the *.so* libraries are missing when trying to rebuild on 8.0 (the\n.a and .la files and everything else is though).\nDo you have an idea of what the problem may be? Julian : Do you want the\n.src.rpm to try to find the cause?\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.19 0.15 0.16\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["I use a mostly Red Hat 8.0 system, but prefer to configure and build my \nkernel by hand. I'd like to humbly offer a tweak to alsa-driver.spec \nthat helps it build cleanly under such circumstances. I recognize that \nfreshrpms.net packages are designed with standard Red Hat in mind, \nincluding a standard kernel RPM. However, I hope that Matthias will \nconsider the tweak small enough to justify its incorporation.\n\nThe diff is attached below. The first part of the diff contains a \nconditional that checks to see if the expected RPM is installed. If it \nis, %{karch} is set as before and a new %{krpm} flag is set to 1. If \nthe expected RPM is not installed, then %{karch} is instead set using \n\"uname -p\", while %{krpm} is left undefined.\n\nThe second part of the diff is simpler. We only require that \nkernel-source be installed if the kernel itself came from an RPM. (If \nthe kernel was hand-built, the presumably the user knows enough to have \nretained the sources in the expected place.)\n\nAgain, I realize that I'm operating \"off warrantee\" by not using a Red \nHat kernel RPM. Matthias, if you think this tweak is reasonable and not \ntoo ugly, I'd love to see you pick it up. If not, well at least this \nmessage will sit in the archives and may help other folks in the future.\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | "On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:44:15 +0200 (CEST), Thomas Vander Stichele <thomas@urgent.rug.ac.be> wrote:\n\n> > Matthias Saou (matthias@egwn.net) wrote*:\n> > >As Red Hat does, I really don't recommend trying to upgrade between betas\n> > >or from a beta to a final release either. Simply backup your /home, /etc\n> > >(and /root and/or /usr/local/ if needed) then reinstall cleanly, it'll\n> > >probably save a few hassles and you'll get the cleanest possible system ;-)\n\n Yeah, I need to work this out, too; I just learned my lesson about living on the bleeding edge. Lesson learned? NO MORE XIMIAN, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Man, that was annoying.\n\n Anyway, I have returned to Redhat 7.3 on my root filesystem (saved my home directories, music and games on other partitions) and while I have the 8.0 stuff in the list, everything I want to upgrade requires 200+ RPMs.\n\n I'm not opposed to this, but apt is. \"apt-get dist-upgrade\" dumps core.\n\n What's the inside secret here, or do I just start searching mirrors for the ISO and get over it?\n\n \n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBrian Fahrländer Linux Zealot, Conservative, and Technomad\nEvansville, IN My Voyage: http://www.CounterMoon.com\nICQ 5119262\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJust machines, to make big decisions- programmed by fellas with\ncompassion and vision. We'll be clean when that work is done;\nEternally free and eternally young. Linux.\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Brian wrote :\n\n> Yeah, I need to work this out, too; I just learned my lesson about\n> living on the bleeding edge. Lesson learned? NO MORE XIMIAN, UNDER\n> ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Man, that was annoying.\n\nWe all learned that sooner or later, right? When I got down to that myself\nis when I started redhat.aldil.org, now known as freshrpms.net ;-)\n\n> Anyway, I have returned to Redhat 7.3 on my root filesystem (saved my\n> home directories, music and games on other partitions) and while I\n> have the 8.0 stuff in the list, everything I want to upgrade requires\n> 200+ RPMs.\n> \n> I'm not opposed to this, but apt is. \"apt-get dist-upgrade\" dumps\n> core.\n\nStrange.\nAnyway, although I'd easily recommend upgrading 7.x to 7.3 using apt, I\nwouldn't for 7.x to 8.0 as they are C++ binary incompatible... and apt is\nentirely written in C++ and dynamically linked :-/\n\nStill, that doesn't explain a core dump :-(\n\n> What's the inside secret here, or do I just start searching mirrors\n> for the ISO and get over it?\n\nWhy \"search\"? There's more than enough to choose from here :\nhttp://freshrpms.net/mirrors/psyche.html\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi,\n\nThis has been hashed over a few times on various lists, now I finally got \naround to doing something about it... You can now add\n\"rpm http://koti.welho.com/pmatilai/ redhat/8.0 task\" to your sources.list \nand after apt-get update you can find out what's available with \n'apt-cache search ^task-'\n\nThese are generated directly from comps.xml of RH8.0 so they contain \nexactly the same packages as you'll get by choosing the various categories \nat install time. I didn't bother including SRPMS for these as they are \nrather uninteresting, if you want you can re-generate the .specs by \nrunning http://koti.welho.com/pmatilai/comps2task/comps2task.py.\n\nBTW the repository only contains the task-packages, you'll need an \napt-enabled mirror of RH8.0 in your sources.list to actually do anything \nwith it.\n\n-- \n\t- Panu -\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Brian wrote :\n\n> Yeah, but I try to 'take it easy' on your server. The golden rule of\n> the internet: when you find a free resource, don't piss'em off! :) I\n> really appreciate your work; you get done the things I wish I could,\n> and I respect that.\n\nDon't worry too much : The day the server gets too busy, I'll cleanup and\npublish the addresses of some mirrors, as many ftp mirrors exist (I'm aware\nof at least 15), and even an apt one :-)\nFor now, the limit is far enough : When I unlocked the Psyche ISO images on\nMonday, the bandwidth usage on the current (ftp|http|rsync) freshrpms.net\nserver went up to 90Mbps sustained, which is not bad as the server has a\n100Mbps physical NIC! Of course, I'd get in trouble if it was always like\nthat, but the average used when no new Red Hat release is there is between\n2 and 4Mbps, which my company tolerates, as I've convinced them it's a\nuseful return to the community providing us the great operating system all\nour servers are running ;-)\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, \"\"Angles\" wrote :\n\n> When I went all \"Open Source\", I stopped using my old partioning app\n> (partition magic?). For the RH7 install I used FIPS (a couple times).\n> Then ext3 came out and my old commercial partioning app is real old, so I\n> ask what OS software can non-destructively repartition a HD so I can put\n> /home on a seperate partition now?\n\nParted is your friend! You can't do _everything_, the most limiting being\nthat you can't move the start of a partition, but it's quite powerful\nnevertheless, and I've been very happy with it the few times I've had to\nuse it.\n\n> >If you didn't put /home on a separate partition,\n> \n> With winbloze 9x I used to deltree the winbloze dir and some \"Program\n> Files\" dirs, and install \"fresh\" instead of upgrade, while saving my\n> other data. Can this trick be used with this RH8 upgrade? Example rpm -e\n> everything so all packages are gone, hit \"reset\" button and boot to\n> redhat CDROM in admin (rescue?) mode, delete all those config files left,\n> like \"/etc/*\", then do an install BUT NOT FORMAT THAT SINGLE PARTITION\n> that I'm installing on. If I can hack the details, is this theory\n> accurate, or will RH want to destructively install and elimate all\n> existing files?\n\nYou're really better off backuping all placed where you know you've hand\nedited or installed some files. For me that's only /etc/, /root/ and\n/home/. Then you reinstall cleanly, formating \"/\", put your /home/ files\nback into place and you're ready to go.\nThat's the moment I usually realize I had a nifty tweak to a file in\n/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ or some special parameters added to an\n/etc/modules.conf entry... so I look at my backup and make the same change\nagain. The only thing where you can get stuck is the grub.conf files,\nbecause although there's a /etc/grub.conf link, it's actually in\n/boot/grub/ so you may want to copy it too if you have special kernel\nparameters to save (I have to pass \"pci=bios,biosirq\" for one of my\ncomputers to work for example).\n\nHTH,\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "I just saw the ISOs on an internal server here and was tempted....\n\n\tD.\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: John P. Looney [mailto:valen@tuatha.org] \nSent: Monday, September 02, 2002 3:45 PM\nTo: HAMILTON,DAVID (HP-Ireland,ex2)\nCc: 'ilug@linux.ie'\nSubject: Re: [ILUG] Redhat 8.0\n\n\nOn Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 03:22:54PM +0100, HAMILTON,DAVID (HP-Ireland,ex2)\nmentioned:\n> Does anyone know when Redhat 8.0 is going to be released?\n> I have seen some ISO images of it around and I am trying to work out \n> if it's near release.\n\n Null, the third beta was out last week.\n\n It'll be an interesting release. Gnome 2.0, and GCC 3.2 - both very new,\nlarge projects.\n\n I'd not be putting it on any production machines for a while...\n\n Though many say \"RedHat X.0 releases are rubbish\" - it's worth baring in\nmind that they jump a release when the underlying archtechture changes, not\njust the installer, so they are .0 for a reason.\n\nKate\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:09:19AM +0200, Matthias Saou wrote:\n> Well, I don't really find it consistent at all to use an rpm package built\n> against something that wasn't installed through rpm :-/\n\nFollowing that reasoning, I've been installing all my custom-built\nkernels through rpm recently. I find it annoying, though, that \nalsa-kernel, and similar packages, will only build for the currently \nrunning kernel.\n\nSo I've attached a patch to specify an alternate kernel by setting the\n\"TARGET_KERNEL\" environment variable before running rpmbuild. You\nstill need to have the rpm for the specified kernel installed, but at\nleast it doesn't have to be currently running. It's kinda hackish, so\nif someone has a better way to do this, let me know.\n\ngary\n", "--- alsa-driver.spec.orig\t2002-10-02 12:25:26.000000000 -0700\n+++ alsa-driver.spec\t2002-10-01 21:23:19.000000000 -0700\n@@ -3,9 +3,12 @@\n # Comma separated list of cards for which to compile a driver\n %define\tcards\t\tall\n \n-%define\tkunamer\t\t%(uname -r)\n-%define\tkversion\t%(echo $(uname -r) | sed -e s/smp// -)\n-%if %(uname -r | grep -c smp)\n+%if %(printenv TARGET_KERNEL >/dev/null && echo -n 1 || echo -n 0)\n+%define usekernel\t%(echo -n $TARGET_KERNEL)\n+%endif\n+%define\tkunamer\t\t%{!?usekernel: %(uname -r)}%{?usekernel}\n+%define\tkversion\t%(echo %{kunamer} | sed -e s/smp// -)\n+%if %(echo %{kunamer} | grep -c smp)\n \t%{expand:%%define ksmp -smp}\n %endif\n %define\tkarch\t\t%(rpm -q --qf '%%{arch}' kernel%{?ksmp}-%{kversion})\n@@ -77,6 +80,7 @@\n \t%{?_without_isapnp:--with-isapnp=no} \\\n \t%{?_without_sequencer:--with-sequencer=no} \\\n \t%{?_without_oss:--with-oss=no} \\\n+\t%{?usekernel:--with-kernel=/lib/modules/%{usekernel}/build} \\\n \t--with-cards=%{cards}\n make\n \n@@ -106,10 +109,10 @@\n rm -f %{buildroot}/etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound\n \n %post -n alsa-kernel%{?ksmp}\n-/sbin/depmod -a\n+/sbin/depmod -a -F /boot/System.map-%{kunamer} %{kunamer}\n \n %postun -n alsa-kernel%{?ksmp}\n-/sbin/depmod -a\n+/sbin/depmod -a -F /boot/System.map-%{kunamer} %{kunamer}\n \n %clean\n rm -rf %{buildroot}\n"] |
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| easy_ham | "Matthias Saou (matthias@egwn.net) wrote*:\n>You're really better off backuping all placed where you know you've hand\n>edited or installed some files. For me that's only /etc/, /root/ and\n>/home/. Then you reinstall cleanly, formating \"/\", put your /home/ files\n>back into place and you're ready to go.\n\nMatthias I gotta believe you, I've been using your RPMs for some time now :) That's\nthe way I'll do it. A clean start but with the old configs at the ready for diff-\ning when needed. I'll find some old HD for those media files.\n\n--\nThat's \"angle\" as in geometry.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, \"\"Angles\" wrote :\n\n> Matthias Saou (matthias@egwn.net) wrote*:\n> >You're really better off backuping all placed where you know you've hand\n> >edited or installed some files. For me that's only /etc/, /root/ and\n> >/home/. Then you reinstall cleanly, formating \"/\", put your /home/ files\n> >back into place and you're ready to go.\n> \n> Matthias I gotta believe you, I've been using your RPMs for some time now\n> :) That's the way I'll do it.\n\nI'm no \"messiah\", just do what you think suits you the best :-)\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.05 0.06 0.03\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hey\n\nSince I upgraded to redhat8 mplayer -vo sdl isnt working for me\nIt gives me black screen and I only hear sound.\n\ncan anyone help me with this ?\n\nbtw,\nalso the source rpm specified that I can do --without libdv\nbut it didn't work, worked for lirc and arts.\n\nThanks,\nRoi\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Roi wrote :\n\n> Since I upgraded to redhat8 mplayer -vo sdl isnt working for me\n> It gives me black screen and I only hear sound.\n> \n> can anyone help me with this ?\n\nI'll test this as soon as I can.\n\n> btw,\n> also the source rpm specified that I can do --without libdv\n> but it didn't work, worked for lirc and arts.\n\nShould be fixed : You probably had libdv-devel installed and MPlayer\nautomatically detected it. The new spec file explicitely passes\n--disable-libdv when the package is rebuilt with --without libdv.\n\nGrab the \"fr2.1\" spec from here :\nhttp://freshrpms.net/builds/index.html?build=mplayer\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.02 0.10 0.15\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |