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"| \n| 0 hits here. :(\n| \n\nI also get a lot of them. I think they're using the domain registry\ndatabase to pull their victims' addresses. \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"On Wednesday 28 August 2002 16:33 CET Theo Van Dinter wrote:\n> On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 04:20:52PM +0200, Malte S. Stretz wrote:\n> > I get about 3 of these per week. A google for trafficmagnet convinces\n> > me that they're worth their own rule...\n>\n> 0 hits here. :(\n\nI recently cleaned my spam corpus from them but these are my current \nresults:\n OVERALL SPAM NONSPAM NAME\n 13929 995 12934 (all messages)\n 13 13 0 T_TRAFFICMAGNET\n\nI put it into cvs_rules_under_test, let's see what the 2.41 GA run thinks \nabout it :)\n\nMalte\n\n-- \n-- Coding is art.\n-- \n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"On Wednesday 28 August 2002 16:45 CET Steve Thomas wrote:\n> | 0 hits here. :(\n>\n> I also get a lot of them. I think they're using the domain registry\n> database to pull their victims' addresses.\n\nThey are crawling through the pages and send their \"offers\" to all addresses \nthey find. Theo won't every receive any offers as he doesn't publish his \naddress there ;-)\n\nMalte\n\n-- \n-- Coding is art.\n-- \n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=777\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From daniel@roe.ch 2002-08-28 09:15 -------\n3. usage of <p> just like <br> (ie. without </p>) which is obsolete\n (not sure whether some mailers still produce such broken html)\n4. tag argument values sometimes enclosed in \"\", sometimes not\n5. colour args without # in front of hex rgb code\n6. colour args with non-6-digit rgb code (typo)\n7. onMouseOver et al in nonconsistent case throughout the document\n\nMind, those are just ideas. I'm pretty sure some or even most of them\nare not working in practice, but they might be worth checking out.\n\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/masses\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv6501/masses\n\nRemoved Files:\n Tag: b2_4_0\n\tevolve.cxx \nLog Message:\nremoved old evolver\n\n--- evolve.cxx DELETED ---\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n"
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"\nWell if you're talking about epiphany, which is in January, then yes it is\n5 months.Some people do celebrate Christmas on january 6th, or even the 13th.\n\nBut I am certain that what you are thinking is the correct thought.\n\nPlease don't flame me. Just trying to be humerous =)\n\n\nMatt Kettler said:\n> On an unrelated, but similarly amusing note, a spam I received (and was\n> tagged by SA) today began with:\n>\n>\n> > I bet you haven't even realized that Christmas is just 5 months away,\n> >\n> did you?\n>\n>\n> Strangely, no I wasn't aware that Christmas was 5 months away. Here in\n> the US Christmas is a bit less than 4 months away. Where exactly is\n> the \"international month line\" anyway? I've never seen the -74400\n> timezone before, but I bet it qualifies as INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD :)\n>\n>\n>\n>\n> -------------------------------------------------------\n> This sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing\n> real-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in!\n> http://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n> _______________________________________________\n> Spamassassin-talk mailing list\n> Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\n> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Justin Mason wrote:\n> Phil R Lawrence said:\n> \n> \n>>>something to watch out for is to use \"nomime\" => 1 in the Mail::Audit\n>>>ctor; the M:A folks changed the API there.\n>>\n>>What has MIME to do with it? I read in perldoc M:A that your suggestion \n>>is less expensive, but how does that help S:A?\n> \n> \n> M:A, for some reason, changes its base class depending on whether the\n> incoming message is mime or not. Therefore the Mail::Internet methods\n> suddenly become unavailable for MIME messages...\n> \n> (you do *not* want to know what I thought of that when I found it ;)\n\nAs a new user of SA, I guess I'm having trouble connecting the dots. If \nI understand you: If I don't use the \"nomime\" => 1 option and I recieve \nMIME mail, the Mail::Internet modules become unavailable.\n\nUnavailable for which? MA? SA? What do these methods do? Does this \nmean my incoming MIME mail won't be checked by SA unless I specify \n\"nomime\" => 1?\n\nThanks,\nPhil\n\n\n"
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"OK guys -- I reckon it's now Good Enough, modulo some minor score\ntweaking, or commenting of some more broken/high-FP-ing rules.\n\nWhat do you all think? are we ready to go? anyone run into any trouble\nwith the new autoconf code, or found a bug from the merge of that spamc\nBSMTP-support patch?\n\nI expect there *will* be a 2.41 BTW.\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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["Justin Mason wrote:\n> OK guys -- I reckon it's now Good Enough, modulo some minor score\n> tweaking, or commenting of some more broken/high-FP-ing rules.\n>\n> What do you all think? are we ready to go? anyone run into any trouble\n> with the new autoconf code, or found a bug from the merge of that spamc\n> BSMTP-support patch?\n\nI just checked out b2_4_0 from CVS and 'make test' fails horribly.\n\nIt seems to be looking in my site_perl SpamAssassin code, not the build\ndirectory.\n\nExample error:\n\nFailed to run FROM_AND_TO_SAME_5 SpamAssassin test, skipping:\n (Can't locate object method \"check_for_from_to_same\" via package\n\"Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus\" at\n/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line\n1701.\n)\n\nAnyone else seeing this?\n\nrOD.\n\n--\n\"If you're dumb, surround yourself with smart people;\n and if you're smart, surround yourself with smart people\n who disagree with you.\"\n\nDoing the blogging thang again at http://www.groovymother.com/ <<\n", "…"]
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"On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 09:43:11AM +0100, Ciaran Johnston wrote:\n\n> > Also there's some stuff about French consumer law forbidding sale\n> > without guarantee of anything, so software delivered as-is\n> > breaches consumer law in France. But I didn't really follow that.\n> \n> My French is a bit iffy these days, but if this is true, does it not also\n> nullify Microsoft, Adobe and WinZip licences amongst most others? These all\n> claim no liability, no guarantees (M$ say delivered \"with all faults\", so\n> at least they are honest).\n\nApparently the angle on this (i.e. selling without guarantee) is that\nsoftware is not a product which is sold but a service which is licensed - at\nleast that's what I remember reading about how M$ gets away with providing\nno guarantee in the U.S. If you're feeling rather deep pocketed, you could\nalways try suing M$ to get a court's view on the matter.\n\n\n\n\nNiall\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n\n"
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"To update spamassasin, all I need to do is install the new tar.gz \nfile as if it were a new installation? I don't need to stop incoming \nmail or anything like that? Thanks, Mike\n\n\n-- \nMichael Clark, Webmaster\nCenter for Democracy and Technology\n1634 Eye Street NW, Suite 1100\nWashington, DC 20006\nvoice: 202-637-9800\nhttp://www.cdt.org/\n\nJoin our Activist Network! Your participation can make a difference!\nhttp://www.cdt.org/join/\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"> the number 1 ISP in France and the third ISP in\n> Europe Wanadoo.fr is using non RFC2822 compliant\n> mail servers:\n\nWanadoo.fr is notorious for being unresponsive to spam abuse \ncomplaints. Some of the more militant admins have blocked them \ncompletely.\n\nRossz\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 13:57, Michael Clark wrote:\n> To update spamassasin, all I need to do is install the new tar.gz \n> file as if it were a new installation? I don't need to stop incoming \n> mail or anything like that? Thanks, Mike\nIf you are using spamd, you will have to stop/restart it. \n\n-- \nLarry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler\nPhone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org\nUS Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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["On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 07:42:13PM +0100, Justin Mason wrote:\n> OK guys -- I reckon it's now Good Enough, modulo some minor score\n> tweaking, or commenting of some more broken/high-FP-ing rules.\n> \n\nSome make test errors here, too:\n\nFailed 6/20 test scripts, 70.00% okay. 17/182 subtests failed, 90.66% okay.\n\nJ\n\n-- \nJesus Climent | Unix System Admin | Helsinki, Finland.\nhttp://www.HispaLinux.es/~data/ | data.pandacrew.org\n------------------------------------------------------\nPlease, encrypt mail address to me: GnuPG ID: 86946D69\nFP: BB64 2339 1CAA 7064 E429 7E18 66FC 1D7F 8694 6D69\n------------------------------------------------------\nRegistered Linux user #66350 Debian 3.0 & Linux 2.4.19\n\nLook at my fingers: four stones, four crates. Zero stones? ZERO CRATES!\n\t\t--Zorg (The Fifth Element)\n", "…"]
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"Justin Mason wrote:\n> Phil R Lawrence said:\n> \n> \n>>>something to watch out for is to use \"nomime\" => 1 in the Mail::Audit\n>>>ctor; the M:A folks changed the API there.\n>>\n>>What has MIME to do with it? I read in perldoc M:A that your suggestion \n>>is less expensive, but how does that help S:A?\n> \n> \n> M:A, for some reason, changes its base class depending on whether the\n> incoming message is mime or not. Therefore the Mail::Internet methods\n> suddenly become unavailable for MIME messages...\n> \n> (you do *not* want to know what I thought of that when I found it ;)\n\nAs a new user of SA, I guess I'm having trouble connecting the dots. If \nI understand you: If I don't use the \"nomime\" => 1 option and I recieve \nMIME mail, the Mail::Internet modules become unavailable.\n\nUnavailable for which? MA? SA? What do these methods do? Does this \nmean my incoming MIME mail won't be checked by SA unless I specify \n\"nomime\" => 1?\n\nThanks,\nPhil\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Justin Mason wrote:\n\n> What do you all think? are we ready to go? anyone run into any trouble\n> with the new autoconf code, or found a bug from the merge of that spamc\n\nI am now preparing a small patch to configure.in for NetBSD (possibly\nalso useful for Open- and FreeBSD, don't know). Should be ready and\ntested in the next half hour.\n\nIf you think 2.40 is ready, I would suggest to wait just 24 hours more\nfor possible reports by b2_4_0 users. Not everyone can follow the\ndevelopment during daytime (at work).\n\n\nciao\n Klaus\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"I'm a new user (or about to be, hopefully) of SA but I've run into some\ncompilation errors that prevent me from installing. Rather than picking\nthrough the code, I thought I'd avoid reinventing the wheel and ask here.\nWhen I run the 'make', I get the following:\n\ncc: Error: spamd/spamc.c, line 50: In this declaration, \"in_addr_t\" has no\nlinka\nge and has a prior declaration in this scope at line number 572 in file\n/usr/inc\nlude/sys/types.h. (nolinkage)\ntypedef unsigned long in_addr_t; /* base type for internet address\n*/\n------------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 169: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of\nthe pointer value \"msg_buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"unsigned ch\nar\". (ptrmismatch)\n if((bytes = full_read (in, msg_buf, max_size+1024, max_size+1024)) >\nmax_size)\n-----------------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 174: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of\nthe pointer value \"header_buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"const un\nsigned char\". (ptrmismatch)\n full_write (out,header_buf,bytes2);\n--------------------^\n\nThere are lots more where they came from. Any ideas what can be done?\nThanks in advance.\n\n================================================================================\nDon Newcomer Dickinson College\nAssociate Director, System and Network Services\t\tP.O. Box 1773\nnewcomer@dickinson.edu Carlisle, PA 17013\n Phone: (717) 245-1256\n FAX: (717) 245-1690\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"having great fun trying to find a dumb ADSL modem with Ethernet\npresentation, everybody wants to sell routers but I intend on doing pppoe\nfrom another device, something with more than one Ethernet port would be\nnice.\nanybody got any recommendations ?\n\nUly\n\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: <joefitz@netsoc.ucd.ie>\nTo: <decdelmur@iol.ie>\nCc: <ilug@linux.ie>\nSent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:35 AM\nSubject: Re: [ILUG] adsl router modem combo\n\n\n> It seems to only support PPPoA and not PPPoE. You need one that supports\n> PPPoE, if you want torun it in routed IP mode. If you are using it as a\n> bridge, it'll probably work, but you'd be left leaving the computer on,\n> which would defeat the purpose of getting a router.\n>\n> The best router I've come accross is the Zyxel 643. Eircom supply this,\n> but if you have alook online you can probably find it cheaper to buy\n> online from America or the UK.\n>\n> Hope this is useful,\n> Joe\n>\n>\n> --\n> Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\n> http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription\ninformation.\n> List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n>\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n\n"
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"Robin Lynn Frank <rlfrank@paradigm-omega.com> writes:\n\n> I may be dense, but why would anyone want to utilize Habeus? To me,\n> it looks like a potential backdoor to anyone's defenses against spam.\n>\n> If I were a spammer, I'd simply set up a server, send out my spam with\n> the Habeus headers and continue till I was reasonably certain I'd been\n> reported. Then I'd simply reconfigure the server and reconnect to a\n> different IP. As long as no one can establish my connection to the\n> web sites my spam is directing people to, I'm home free.\n\nHere is the bug I opened:\n\n http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=762\n\nRBLs have the same problem, but there is no negative RBL header rule\nwith a -20 score that can be forged, so the problem is unique to Habeas.\n\n> Since I can set up spamassassin to I don't \"lose\" any email, what do I\n> gain by making it easier for spam to get through??\n\nMy primary issue is the magnitude of the negative score and that it was\nnot determined empirically. I am also concerned that it was added after\nthe rules freeze, that such a major change was not discussed in advance,\netc.\n\nThere's also no evidence that the rule will actually reduce FPs. People\nwho are smart enough to use the rule are probably capable of writing\nemail that doesn't look like spam (I'm not counting spam mailing lists\nwhich you need to be exempted from spam filtering).\n\nDan\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"> MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA (4.0 points)\n> INVALID_MSGID (1.8 points) \n> MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_2 (1.6 points)\n\nHere are the new scores in the 2.40 branch (they may change, but they\nare better than before).\n\nscore INVALID_MSGID 1.226\nscore MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA 1.696\nscore MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_2 0.532\n\nTotal of 3.5 which is better than 7.4, I suppose.\n\nIf they fixed their MSGID, it would help. I suppose we could allow\ncomments without hurting spam detection too much, but I'm reluctant\n(it's pretty bizarre to put a comment after the Message-ID header).\n\nCan you open a bugzilla ticket for this one?\n\nDan\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Hi, I'm trying to build SA under Digital Unix 4.0f and am receiving a\ncompile error (and many warnings) for spamc. The \"perl Makefile.PL\"\ndoes OK, but when I do the make, I get this:\n\ncc -std -fprm d -ieee -D_INTRINSICS -I/usr/local/include -DLANGUAGE_C\n-O4 spamd\n/spamc.c -o spamd/spamc -L/usr/local/lib -lbind -ldbm -ldb -lm -liconv\n-lutil\ncc: Error: spamd/spamc.c, line 50: In this declaration, \"in_addr_t\" has\nno linkage and has a prior declaration in this scope at line number 592 in file\n/usr/include/sys/types.h. (nolinkage)\ntypedef unsigned long in_addr_t; /* base type for internet\naddress */\n------------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 169: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of\nthe pointer value \"msg_buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"unsigned char\". (ptrmismatch)\n if((bytes = full_read (in, msg_buf, max_size+1024, max_size+1024)) >\nmax_size)\n-----------------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 174: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of\nthe pointer value \"header_buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"const unsigned char\". (ptrmismatch)\n full_write (out,header_buf,bytes2);\n--------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 202: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of\nthe pointer value \"header_buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"const unsigned char\". (ptrmismatch)\n full_write (out,header_buf,bytes2);\n--------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 203: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of the pointer value \"msg_buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible\nwith \"const unsigned char\". (ptrmismatch)\n full_write (out,msg_buf,bytes);\n--------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 306: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of the pointer value \"buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"unsigned char\".\n (ptrmismatch)\n if(full_read (in,buf,2,2) != 2 || !('\\r' == buf[0] && '\\n' ==\nbuf[1]))\n---------------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 321: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of\nthe pointer value \"buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"unsigned char\".\n (ptrmismatch)\n while((bytes=full_read (in,buf,8192, 8192)) > 0)\n-------------------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 348: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of\nthe pointer value \"out_buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"const unsigned char\". (ptrmismatch)\n full_write (out, out_buf, out_index);\n-----------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 497: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of\nthe pointer value \"msg_buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"const unsigned char\". (ptrmismatch)\n full_write (STDOUT_FILENO,msg_buf,amount_read);\n--------------------------------^\ncc: Warning: spamd/spamc.c, line 512: In this statement, the referenced\ntype of\nthe pointer value \"msg_buf\" is \"char\", which is not compatible with\n\"const unsigned char\". (ptrmismatch)\n full_write(STDOUT_FILENO,msg_buf,amount_read);\n-------------------------------^\n*** Exit 1\nStop.\n\nCan anyone suggest a way to get around this? TIA...\n\nJim\n*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*\n* James H. McCullars I Phone: (256) 824-2610 *\n* Director of Systems & Operations I Fax: (256) 824-6643 *\n* Computer & Network Services I Internet: mccullj@email.uah.edu *\n* The University of Alabama I -----------------------------------*\n* in Huntsville I *\n* Huntsville, AL 35899 I This space for rent - CHEAP! *\n*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Is there a way to tell spamassassin to put the results at the bottom\nof the message instead? If not, what is the easiest way to do this.\nI found a report_header, but no equivalent report_bottom.\n\nThanks,\n\nJon.\njon.g@directfreight.com\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv3992/t\n\nModified Files:\n Tag: b2_4_0\n\tSATest.pm \nLog Message:\nok, looks like SA can now be run even with another version installed in /usr, again\n\nIndex: SATest.pm\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t/SATest.pm,v\nretrieving revision 1.15.4.1\nretrieving revision 1.15.4.2\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.15.4.1 -r1.15.4.2\n--- SATest.pm\t27 Aug 2002 21:44:14 -0000\t1.15.4.1\n+++ SATest.pm\t28 Aug 2002 22:46:28 -0000\t1.15.4.2\n@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@\n my $tname = shift;\n \n $scr = $ENV{'SCRIPT'};\n- $scr ||= \"../spamassassin\";\n+ $scr ||= \"perl -w ../spamassassin\";\n \n $spamd = $ENV{'SPAMD_SCRIPT'};\n $spamd ||= \"../spamd/spamd -x\";\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n"
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"On Wednesday 28 August 2002 01:50 pm, Robin Lynn Frank wrote:\n\n> On Wednesday 28 August 2002 01:34 pm, Brian McNett wrote:\n> > Also, that little haiku is a copyrighted work, so not only CAN\n> > Habeas sue, they MUST sue to protect their copyright. And since\n> > it's a trademark as well, that's a double-whammy. Habeas has\n> > some pretty high-powered legal people, who will gladly go to\n> > town on violators.\n\n> > The whole point here is to give them the legal leverage they\n> > need to put spammers out of business, and not only block mail\n> > from them, but allow through the things that really AREN'T spam.\n\n> And if a spammer forges headers???\n\nThere must be *some* way of tracking a spammer down, since they are planning \non making money from the spam. What a court would consider evidence of being \nthe spammer is another question.\n\n-- \nGive a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on\nfire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.\n\nICQ: 132152059 | Advanced SPAM filtering software: http://spamassassin.org\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Matthew Cline wrote:\n\n> There must be *some* way of tracking a spammer down, since they are\n> planning on making money from the spam.\n\nMany spammers make money not from response to the spam, but from selling\nthe service of spamming on behalf of someone else. You might track down\nwhoever paid for the mailing, but tracking down the actual sender might be\nmore difficult, and even if they manage to recover damages from the buyer\nthey haven't stopped the spammer, so the benefit is strictly to Habeas,\nnot to the recipients of the spam. That's the main problem I have with\nthe whole scenario: My pain, Habeas's gain, and those most likely to be\nheld liable are those least likely to be the really serious abusers.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv15398\n\nModified Files:\n Tag: b2_4_0\n\tconfigure configure.in \nLog Message:\nNetBSD support patch from Klaus Heinz, bug 785\n\nIndex: configure\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/configure,v\nretrieving revision 1.1.2.1\nretrieving revision 1.1.2.2\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.1.2.1 -r1.1.2.2\n--- configure\t27 Aug 2002 23:07:13 -0000\t1.1.2.1\n+++ configure\t28 Aug 2002 23:29:04 -0000\t1.1.2.2\n@@ -1273,18 +1273,22 @@\n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n #line 1275 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n+#include <sys/types.h>\n #include <sys/socket.h>\n+int main() {\n+printf (\"%d\", SHUT_RD); return 0;\n+; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if (eval \"$ac_cpp conftest.$ac_ext\") 2>&5 |\n- egrep \"SHUT_RD\" >/dev/null 2>&1; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1283: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n shutrd=yes\n else\n+ echo \"configure: failed program was:\" >&5\n+ cat conftest.$ac_ext >&5\n rm -rf conftest*\n shutrd=no\n fi\n-rm -f conftest*\n-\n+rm -f conftest*,\n \n fi\n \n@@ -1298,7 +1302,7 @@\n \n \n echo $ac_n \"checking for socket in -lsocket\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1302: checking for socket in -lsocket\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1306: checking for socket in -lsocket\" >&5\n ac_lib_var=`echo socket'_'socket | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'`\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n@@ -1306,7 +1310,7 @@\n ac_save_LIBS=\"$LIBS\"\n LIBS=\"-lsocket $LIBS\"\n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1310 \"configure\"\n+#line 1314 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */\n /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2\n@@ -1317,7 +1321,7 @@\n socket()\n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1321: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1325: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n eval \"ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=yes\"\n else\n@@ -1345,7 +1349,7 @@\n fi\n \n echo $ac_n \"checking for connect in -linet\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1349: checking for connect in -linet\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1353: checking for connect in -linet\" >&5\n ac_lib_var=`echo inet'_'connect | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'`\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n@@ -1353,7 +1357,7 @@\n ac_save_LIBS=\"$LIBS\"\n LIBS=\"-linet $LIBS\"\n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1357 \"configure\"\n+#line 1361 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */\n /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2\n@@ -1364,7 +1368,7 @@\n connect()\n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1368: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1372: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n eval \"ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=yes\"\n else\n@@ -1392,7 +1396,7 @@\n fi\n \n echo $ac_n \"checking for t_accept in -lnsl\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1396: checking for t_accept in -lnsl\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1400: checking for t_accept in -lnsl\" >&5\n ac_lib_var=`echo nsl'_'t_accept | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'`\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n@@ -1400,7 +1404,7 @@\n ac_save_LIBS=\"$LIBS\"\n LIBS=\"-lnsl $LIBS\"\n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1404 \"configure\"\n+#line 1408 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */\n /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2\n@@ -1411,7 +1415,7 @@\n t_accept()\n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1415: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1419: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n eval \"ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=yes\"\n else\n@@ -1439,7 +1443,7 @@\n fi\n \n echo $ac_n \"checking for dlopen in -ldl\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1443: checking for dlopen in -ldl\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1447: checking for dlopen in -ldl\" >&5\n ac_lib_var=`echo dl'_'dlopen | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'`\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n@@ -1447,7 +1451,7 @@\n ac_save_LIBS=\"$LIBS\"\n LIBS=\"-ldl $LIBS\"\n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1451 \"configure\"\n+#line 1455 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */\n /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2\n@@ -1458,7 +1462,7 @@\n dlopen()\n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1462: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1466: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n eval \"ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=yes\"\n else\n@@ -1489,12 +1493,12 @@\n for ac_func in socket strdup strtod strtol snprintf shutdown\n do\n echo $ac_n \"checking for $ac_func\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1493: checking for $ac_func\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1497: checking for $ac_func\" >&5\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'ac_cv_func_$ac_func'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n else\n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1498 \"configure\"\n+#line 1502 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n /* System header to define __stub macros and hopefully few prototypes,\n which can conflict with char $ac_func(); below. */\n@@ -1517,7 +1521,7 @@\n \n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1521: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1525: \\\"$ac_link\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n eval \"ac_cv_func_$ac_func=yes\"\n else\n@@ -1544,20 +1548,20 @@\n \n \n echo $ac_n \"checking for h_errno\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1548: checking for h_errno\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1552: checking for h_errno\" >&5\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'herrno'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n else\n \n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1554 \"configure\"\n+#line 1558 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n #include <netdb.h>\n int main() {\n printf (\"%d\", h_errno); return 0;\n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1561: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1565: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n herrno=yes\n else\n@@ -1580,20 +1584,20 @@\n \n \n echo $ac_n \"checking for optarg\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1584: checking for optarg\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1588: checking for optarg\" >&5\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'haveoptarg'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n else\n \n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1590 \"configure\"\n+#line 1594 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n #include <getopt.h>\n int main() {\n if (optarg == (char *) 0L) { return 0; } return 1;\n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1597: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1601: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n haveoptarg=yes\n else\n@@ -1616,20 +1620,21 @@\n \n \n echo $ac_n \"checking for in_addr_t\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1620: checking for in_addr_t\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1624: checking for in_addr_t\" >&5\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'inaddrt'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n else\n \n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1626 \"configure\"\n+#line 1630 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n+#include <sys/types.h>\n #include <netinet/in.h>\n int main() {\n in_addr_t foo; return 0;\n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1633: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1638: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n inaddrt=yes\n else\n@@ -1645,12 +1650,12 @@\n echo \"$ac_t\"\"$inaddrt\" 1>&6\n if test $inaddrt = no ; then\n echo $ac_n \"checking for in_addr_t\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1649: checking for in_addr_t\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1654: checking for in_addr_t\" >&5\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'ac_cv_type_in_addr_t'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n else\n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1654 \"configure\"\n+#line 1659 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n #include <sys/types.h>\n #if STDC_HEADERS\n@@ -1681,20 +1686,21 @@\n \n \n echo $ac_n \"checking for INADDR_NONE\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1685: checking for INADDR_NONE\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1690: checking for INADDR_NONE\" >&5\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'haveinaddrnone'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n else\n \n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1691 \"configure\"\n+#line 1696 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n+#include <sys/types.h>\n #include <netinet/in.h>\n int main() {\n in_addr_t foo = INADDR_NONE; return 0;\n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1698: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1704: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n haveinaddrnone=yes\n else\n@@ -1717,20 +1723,23 @@\n \n \n echo $ac_n \"checking for EX__MAX\"\"... $ac_c\" 1>&6\n-echo \"configure:1721: checking for EX__MAX\" >&5\n+echo \"configure:1727: checking for EX__MAX\" >&5\n if eval \"test \\\"`echo '$''{'haveexmax'+set}'`\\\" = set\"; then\n echo $ac_n \"(cached) $ac_c\" 1>&6\n else\n \n cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF\n-#line 1727 \"configure\"\n+#line 1733 \"configure\"\n #include \"confdefs.h\"\n+#ifdef HAVE_SYSEXITS_H\n+#include <sysexits.h>\n+#endif\n #include <errno.h>\n int main() {\n int foo = EX__MAX; return 0;\n ; return 0; }\n EOF\n-if { (eval echo configure:1734: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n+if { (eval echo configure:1743: \\\"$ac_compile\\\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then\n rm -rf conftest*\n haveexmax=yes\n else\n\nIndex: configure.in\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/configure.in,v\nretrieving revision 1.1.2.1\nretrieving revision 1.1.2.2\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.1.2.1 -r1.1.2.2\n--- configure.in\t27 Aug 2002 23:07:13 -0000\t1.1.2.1\n+++ configure.in\t28 Aug 2002 23:29:04 -0000\t1.1.2.2\n@@ -26,9 +26,11 @@\n \n AC_CACHE_CHECK([for SHUT_RD],\n shutrd, [\n- AC_EGREP_HEADER(SHUT_RD, sys/socket.h,\n+ AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <sys/types.h>\n+#include <sys/socket.h>],\n+ [printf (\"%d\", SHUT_RD); return 0;],\n [shutrd=yes],\n- [shutrd=no])\n+ [shutrd=no]),\n ])\n if test $shutrd = yes ; then\n AC_DEFINE(HAVE_SHUT_RD)\n@@ -73,7 +75,8 @@\n \n AC_CACHE_CHECK([for in_addr_t],\n inaddrt, [\n- AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <netinet/in.h>],\n+ AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <sys/types.h>\n+#include <netinet/in.h>],\n [in_addr_t foo; return 0;],\n [inaddrt=yes],\n [inaddrt=no]),\n@@ -86,7 +89,8 @@\n \n AC_CACHE_CHECK([for INADDR_NONE],\n haveinaddrnone, [\n- AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <netinet/in.h>],\n+ AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <sys/types.h>\n+#include <netinet/in.h>],\n [in_addr_t foo = INADDR_NONE; return 0;],\n [haveinaddrnone=yes],\n [haveinaddrnone=no]),\n@@ -99,7 +103,10 @@\n \n AC_CACHE_CHECK([for EX__MAX],\n haveexmax, [\n- AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <errno.h>],\n+ AC_TRY_COMPILE([#ifdef HAVE_SYSEXITS_H\n+#include <sysexits.h>\n+#endif\n+#include <errno.h>],\n [int foo = EX__MAX; return 0;],\n [haveexmax=yes],\n [haveexmax=no]),\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! 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"On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 11:10:05PM +0100, Declan de Lacy Murphy wrote:\n> I am planning to get i-stream solo and share it across a small network\n> (wireless), but I don't want to have to pay eircom for a router and having a\n> noisy pc running constantly isn't really an option because at home\n> inevitably someone will unplug it.\n> \n> I have been looking at a number of products and although I read the thread\n> about eircom needing pppoe last august I am still not sure if the one that I\n> am interested in will do the job. It is a hawking technology ar 710\n> http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/ar710.htm ) and if it does the job it\n> will actually be cheaper than the modem eircom is selling.\n> \n> I would really appreciate if someone could look at the spec on the hawking\n> web page and give me an opinion.\n> \n> Thanks in advance\n> \n> Declan\n> \n\nI got the DSL-W 906E from http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk.\n\nThough it's not at all the best one around I have to say it does the job\nand a bit. Some of the features can be a pain to get working (ie. pptp in\npppoe mode - can't figure it out). The documentation is not the best, but\nthe guys from http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk will help you ouit. They\nalso have a message board.\n\nThe command line interface is quite powerful, but absolutely not\nuserfriendly.\n\nAll in all it's a cheap desent performer, that I am happy enough with.\nGot this one including a microfilter (not needed) for 140euro including\nshipping. Better than any deal from Eircom.\n\n-Tor\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n\n"
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"Matthew Cline <matt@nightrealms.com> writes:\n\n> There must be *some* way of tracking a spammer down, since they are\n> planning on making money from the spam. What a court would consider\n> evidence of being the spammer is another question.\n\nHaha!!!\n\nJust a few notes:\n\n - It will be difficult to find, prosecute, and win money from someone\n in various non-friendly countries where spam originates (China is a\n good example) even if they do officially \"respect\" copyright law.\n\n - Law suits take time. Between now and conclusion of the first court\n case, we could have years of spam in our mail boxes!\n\n - Contact information can change: phone numbers, PO boxes, stolen\n cell phones, temporary email addresses, etc.\n\n - Spammers do not always remember to include contact information! I\n don't understand it either, but nobody said they were bright. Also,\n some spam is non-commercial or sent by a third-party (for example,\n \"pump and dump\" stock scams), so contact information is not strictly\n required for the spammer to get their way.\n\nDan\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"\nOn Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 01:50 PM, Robin Lynn Frank wrote:\n\n> And if a spammer forges headers???\n\nHeader forgeries are trivially easy to detect. The main way that \nspammers hide their originating IPs is not by forging headers, \nbut by sending through open proxy servers. It used to be that \nspammers used open relay mailserver, but these often betray the \noriginating IP, and the proliferation of open relay blocklists, \nand the introduction of port 25 blocking on the part of many \nISPs make open relays unattractive to spammers.\n\nOne would think, that the combination of a forged Habeas-SWE, \nand mail sent through an anonymizing open proxy would be a \nfairly good indication of spam. Tracking a spammer to his \nmeatspace location is not as difficult as you might think, once \nyou have legal recourse to subpoena records.\n\n--B\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"\nOn Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 04:38 PM, Daniel Quinlan wrote:\n\n> Just a few notes:\n>\n> - It will be difficult to find, prosecute, and win money from someone\n> in various non-friendly countries where spam originates (China is a\n> good example) even if they do officially \"respect\" copyright law.\n\n\nA lot of spam which *appears* to originate from China, and even \na lot which advertises websites hosted there, is sent by, and is \ndone for the benefit of, companies based in the US. The spam \noften appears to originate there because it's coming from open \nhttp, or squid proxy servers. It's hosted there because these \nspammers are now persona-non-grata on all US ISPs. One hardly \nneeds to involve the Chinese government in a case where a US \ncitizen is violating US law.\n\n\n> - Law suits take time. Between now and conclusion of the first court\n> case, we could have years of spam in our mail boxes!\n\nThe first court cases were actually concluded years ago. These \ninclude many legal precedents which are used to protect the \nrights of ISPs to block mail, and to terminate service to \nspammers.\n\n> - Contact information can change: phone numbers, PO boxes, stolen\n> cell phones, temporary email addresses, etc.\n\nSurprising then, how much information you can find on the \ncurrent whereabouts of long-time spammers like Alan Ralksy of \nDetroit, Michigan. Ralsky is a guy who even gives interviews to \nthe news media. If you can connect a specific corpus of spam to \nhim, his street address is well known. Ralsky is a prime \ncandidate for lawsuits in any state with an anti-spam law. \nThomas Cowles is another long-time spammer, but last I heard \nhe'd been jailed for stealing computer equipment from his \nbusiness partner, Eddy Marin (also a long time spammer (You've \nheard of PopLaunch, right?)\n\n> - Spammers do not always remember to include contact information! I\n> don't understand it either, but nobody said they were bright. Also,\n> some spam is non-commercial or sent by a third-party (for example,\n> \"pump and dump\" stock scams), so contact information is not strictly\n> required for the spammer to get their way.\n\nBack when I was working at MAPS, there was a flap over a \npump-and-dump spammer, Rodona Garst. Seems she had an open \nfile-share on her laptop, and when she forged the wrong domain, \nthe real owner hacked in and posted all her private information \non a website. Oh, look, it's still there, including the nude \nphotos:\n\nhttp://belps.freewebsites.com/\n\nI recall this well, because the SEC was VERY interested in \nconfirming the validity of the information found online. There \nwere some \"interesting\" conversations. This summer, the SEC \nreleased the following:\n\nhttp://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/33-8113.htm\n\nYes, the investigation took two years, but the financial penalty \nfor operating a pump-and-dump scam isn't small. The wheels of \ngovernment grind slow, but the grind very fine indeed.\n\n--B\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Guys, the Habeas Infringers List (HIL) exists explicitly to deal with\nspammers while we're getting judgments against them and especially in\nother countries, where those judgments are harder to get.\n\nPlease note that nobody has ever had an incentive before to go after\nregular spammers. Yes, some attorneys general have prosecuted blatant\npyramid schemes, and ISPs have won some theft of service suits, but the\nvast majority of spammers go forward with out any legal hassles. So, I\ncan't understand how Daniel can assert that you can't track spammers\ndown when it's never really been tried. We can subpoena the records of\nthe business they spammed on behalf of. We can subpoena the records of\nthe ISP that provided them service, and of the credit card they used for\nthe whack-a-mole accounts. We can use private investigators. Yes,\nthese people are often lowlifes (chickenboners). But, they're not\nsecret agents. They're just trying to make a buck, and Habeas' whole\nbusiness is about finding them and putting them out of business\n\nHabeas has the incentive to pursue spammers (that use our warrant mark)\nin a way that no one ever has had before. Given that our whole business\nplan relies on Habeas becoming synonymous with \"not spam\", I can't\nunderstand why you would assume ahead of time that we will be\nunsuccessful, plan for that failure, and in so doing, remove the\npotential of success, which is anti-spam filters like SA acting on the\nHabeas warrant mark.\n\nDaniel, it's easy enough for you to change the Habeas scores yourself on\nyour installation. If Habeas fails to live up to its promise to only\nlicense the warrant mark to non-spammers and to place all violators on\nthe HIL, then I have no doubt that Justin and Craig will quickly remove\nus from the next release. But, you're trying to kill Habeas before it\nhas a chance to show any promise.\n\nAt the end of the day, SpamAssassin is like the Club, in that it\nencourages thieves (spammers) to just go after the next car (those\nwithout SA) rather than yours. Habeas can play the role of LoJack (the\ntransmitter), in enabling the apprehension of thieves so that they don't\nsteal any more cars. But only if we're given a chance to succeed.\n\n - dan\n--\nDan Kohn <mailto:dan@dankohn.com>\n<http://www.dankohn.com/> <tel:+1-650-327-2600> \n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Daniel Quinlan [mailto:quinlan@pathname.com] \nSent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 16:38\nTo: Matthew Cline\nCc: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net\nSubject: Re: [SAtalk] O.T. Habeus -- Why?\n\n\nMatthew Cline <matt@nightrealms.com> writes:\n\n> There must be *some* way of tracking a spammer down, since they are\n> planning on making money from the spam. What a court would consider\n> evidence of being the spammer is another question.\n\nHaha!!!\n\nJust a few notes:\n\n - It will be difficult to find, prosecute, and win money from someone\n in various non-friendly countries where spam originates (China is a\n good example) even if they do officially \"respect\" copyright law.\n\n - Law suits take time. Between now and conclusion of the first court\n case, we could have years of spam in our mail boxes!\n\n - Contact information can change: phone numbers, PO boxes, stolen\n cell phones, temporary email addresses, etc.\n\n - Spammers do not always remember to include contact information! I\n don't understand it either, but nobody said they were bright. Also,\n some spam is non-commercial or sent by a third-party (for example,\n \"pump and dump\" stock scams), so contact information is not strictly\n required for the spammer to get their way.\n\nDan\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:45:49 -0700\nBrian McNett <bmcnett@radparker.com> wrote:\n\n> The first court cases were actually concluded years ago. These \n> include many legal precedents which are used to protect the \n> rights of ISPs to block mail, and to terminate service to \n> spammers.\n\nYeah, but these would be different cases relating to copyright infringements,\nnot about ISP's blocking mail or not.\n\n\n---\nLars Hansson\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Don Newcomer wrote:\n> I'm a new user (or about to be, hopefully) of SA but I've run into some\n> compilation errors that prevent me from installing. Rather than picking\n> through the code, I thought I'd avoid reinventing the wheel and ask here.\n> When I run the 'make', I get the following:\n> \n> cc: Error: spamd/spamc.c, line 50: In this declaration, \"in_addr_t\" has no\n> linka\n> ge and has a prior declaration in this scope at line number 572 in file\n> /usr/inc\n> lude/sys/types.h. (nolinkage)\n> typedef unsigned long in_addr_t; /* base type for internet address\n> */\n\nDon't worry about the warnings. To fix the error, edit spamc.c and right \nafter the line that says:\n\n#define EX__MAX 77\n\nAdd:\n\n#if !defined __osf__\nextern char *optarg;\ntypedef unsigned long in_addr_t; /* base type for internet address */\n#endif\n\n(you're adding the two lines that start with #).\n\n--Rick\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"\n DanQ> I think it would make more sense to start Habeas with a less\n DanQ> aggressive score (one which will not give spammers a quick path\n DanQ> into everyone's inbox) and after we've seen evidence that the\n DanQ> system works, then we can increase the magnitude of the score.\n\nBetter yet, let the GA figure out the correct score. ;-) That will obviously\ntake awhile since you'll have to acquire enough messages with it, but it\nshould give you a good idea if the presence of Habeus headers are good spam\nindicators or not. If they are, my guess is that Habeus will probably not\nsucceed.\n\nTaking things further off-topic: Does Habeus charge a license fee to\norganizations who want to use their copyrighted material or is their sole\nrevenue stream to come from legal judgements? On the one hand, if they\ncharge license fees, I'd worry that when times got tough they'd be somewhat\nless critical of organizations we'd call spammers today in order to generate\nlicense fees. If not, I'd worry the pendulum would swing the other way and\nthey'd go after legitimate businesses in an attempt to generate more\nrevenues from judgements and/or out of court settlements. Either way, it\nseems like they have an interesting tightrope to walk.\n\n-- \nSkip Montanaro\nskip@pobox.com\nconsulting: http://manatee.mojam.com/~skip/resume.html\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Dan Kohn <dan@dankohn.com> writes:\n\n> Guys, the Habeas Infringers List (HIL) exists explicitly to deal with\n> spammers while we're getting judgments against them and especially in\n> other countries, where those judgments are harder to get.\n\nMy concern doesn't stem from failing to understand how your business is\nintended to work. My concern is the lack of empirical evidence that it\nwill reduce the amount of uncaught spam.\n\n> Please note that nobody has ever had an incentive before to go after\n> regular spammers. Yes, some attorneys general have prosecuted blatant\n> pyramid schemes, and ISPs have won some theft of service suits, but\n> the vast majority of spammers go forward with out any legal hassles.\n> So, I can't understand how Daniel can assert that you can't track\n> spammers down when it's never really been tried.\n\nPlease don't misquote me. I did not assert that you \"can't track\nspammers\". Here is what I said:\n\n| It will be difficult to find, prosecute, and win money from someone in\n| various non-friendly countries where spam originates (China is a good\n| example) even if they do officially \"respect\" copyright law.\n\nI understand the incentive that you have to pursue spammers, but that\ndoes not directly translate to less spam being sent to my inbox. It is\nan indirect effect and the magnitude of the effect may not be sufficient\nto counteract the ease with which a -20 score on the mark allows spam to\navoid being tagged as spam.\n\n> Daniel, it's easy enough for you to change the Habeas scores yourself\n> on your installation. If Habeas fails to live up to its promise to\n> only license the warrant mark to non-spammers and to place all\n> violators on the HIL, then I have no doubt that Justin and Craig will\n> quickly remove us from the next release. But, you're trying to kill\n> Habeas before it has a chance to show any promise.\n\nI think I've worked on SA enough to understand that I can localize a\nscore. I'm just not comfortable with using SpamAssassin as a vehicle\nfor drumming up your business at the expense of our user base.\n\nI think it would make more sense to start Habeas with a less aggressive\nscore (one which will not give spammers a quick path into everyone's\ninbox) and after we've seen evidence that the system works, then we can\nincrease the magnitude of the score.\n\nDan\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"--- In forteana@y..., \"Webmaster\" <webmaster@b...> wrote:\n>Right...Talking Stick!..but what the hell is \"marathon/snickers, jif/cif \n>and\n>calls itself 'Secret Chiefs' \"\n>\n>DRS\n>\n\nRebranding: taking something and changing nothing about it except its name. \nIn the UK Marathon bars became Snickers bar, Jif cleaning fluid became Cif \nand Talking Stick became Secret Chiefs, y'know?\n\nScott\n\"at once a fun fair, a petrified forest, and the great temple of Amun at \nKarnak, itself drunk, and reeling in an eccentric earthquake\"\n\n\n_________________________________________________________________\nJoin the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. \nhttp://www.hotmail.com\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"> I think I've worked on SA enough to understand that I can localize a\n> score. I'm just not comfortable with using SpamAssassin as a vehicle\n> for drumming up your business at the expense of our user base.\n\nThis is exactly what I think. SpamAssassin has always been conservative\nabout adding unproven RBLs and such, and this should be the same.\n\n> I think it would make more sense to start Habeas with a less aggressive\n> score (one which will not give spammers a quick path into everyone's\n> inbox) and after we've seen evidence that the system works, then we can\n> increase the magnitude of the score.\n\nI say start it with a zero score and put it in 70_cvs_rules_under_test like\nany other unproven rule. Then score it based on actual results, not\npromises. My corpus does not yet contain a single non-spam (or spam) message\nwith a Habeas mark. Based on that, it doesn't impress me and it wouldn't\nimpress the GA either. Rules with exactly the same statistics are being\ndropped from SA right now, and I don't see why this should be any different.\n\n--\nMichael Moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/\n\"Furious activity is no substitute for understanding.\" --H. H. Williams\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Urban Boquist wrote:\n> Hi Matt, and thanks for your quick reply.\n> \n> Matt> Don't run SA on mails this large.\n> \n> That would be fine, if I only understood how I should do that. I can't\n> find anything in the SA documention that mentions some kind of upper\n> limit for the size of a message. What should I put in my user_prefs\n> file?\n> \n> I run SA from procmail btw, but I can't imagine that procmail would be\n> able to check the size of a message before handing it over to SA?\n\nThat's exactly what it can do:\n\n:0fw <250000\n| spamassassin -P\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv7642\n\nModified Files:\n Tag: b2_4_0\n\tprocmailrc.example \nLog Message:\nadded length limit to sample procmail recipe\n\nIndex: procmailrc.example\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/procmailrc.example,v\nretrieving revision 1.3\nretrieving revision 1.3.2.1\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.3 -r1.3.2.1\n--- procmailrc.example\t16 Aug 2002 18:34:27 -0000\t1.3\n+++ procmailrc.example\t29 Aug 2002 13:37:43 -0000\t1.3.2.1\n@@ -1,5 +1,7 @@\n-# Pipe the mail through spamassassin\n+# Pipe the mail through spamassassin, unless it's over 256k\n+# (SpamAssassin can take a long time to process large messages)\n :0fw\n+* < 256000\n | spamassassin\n \n # Move it to the \"caughtspam\" mbox if it was tagged as spam\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n"
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"On Thursday 29 August 2002 16:39 CET Mike Burger wrote:\n> >[...]\n> > re-check I find it immediately:\n> > :0fw\n> > * < 250000\n> > | spamassassin -P\n> >\n> > Works perfectly now. Sorry for being such a pest! ;-)\n> >[...]\n>\n> I'm using SA via spamc/spamd, and a global /etc/procmail file. I'm\n> wondering if this would also work in that fashion.\n\nspamc will skip every file bigger than 250k on it's own. It's got the \ncommand line switch -s to change this value. But it doesn't hurt of course \nto use the procmail limit.\n\nMalte\n\n-- \n-- Coding is art.\n-- \n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"\nBart Schaefer said:\n\n> This is off the topic of the rest of this discussion, but amavisd (in all\n> its incarnations) and MIMEDefang and several other MTA plugins all reject\n> at SMTP time messages that scores higher than some threshold (often 10). \n\nargh, they do not, do they? the FPs must be just gigantic :(\n\n> If some new release were to start scoring all spam no higher than 5.1,\n> there'd better be _zero_ FPs, because all those filters would drop their\n> thresholds to 5.\n\nWell, my point is more that we should aim our rescoring algorithm so that\na spam hits 5.0. Any higher does us no good, as it means an FP is\na lot harder to recover from, using compensation rules.\n\nSpams *will* hit higher than that -- that's just the way the scoring works.\nbut for our code to be effective, and spread the range of scores\ncorrectly, we just have to optimise to hit 1 threshold.\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:37:02AM +0100, Clayton, Nik [IT] wrote:\n> Have the UPPERCASE_* rules been tested on messages in non-English \n> character sets, and/or where the message is MIME encoded in some way?\n> \n> I'm getting a lot of false positives on Japanese mail, and I think the \n> encoding is responsible for triggering this rule.\n\nLike Justin said, this is fixed in CVS.\n\nDan.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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["Justin Mason <jm@jmason.org> [2002-08-29 17:00:12 +0100]:\n> Well, my point is more that we should aim our rescoring algorithm so that\n> a spam hits 5.0. Any higher does us no good, as it means an FP is\n> a lot harder to recover from, using compensation rules.\n\nAgreed.\n\nBut I have always thought that the value 5 was not the best value. It\nshould have been 0. I understand that initially only spammy scores\nwere included. But I believe the algorithm should be purely\nsymmetrical and non-spammy negative values should also have been\nbalancing out the spammy positive values, like they do in SA today.\nThen anything that was positive would be spam and anything negative\nwould be non-spam. (And I guess exactly zero is grey. :-) Today's\nchoice of 5 just adds an offset. Which I think cause people to assume\nthings work differently than they do.\n\nBob\n", "…"]
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"jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:\n\n> BTW I tried tweaking some of the scores that lint-rules complained about\n> being negative when they shouldn't be, and it *ruined* the results. it's\n> worth hand-tweaking a bit, but in some cases, there's counter-intuitive\n> combinatorial effects like the above, so be careful when tweaking; run\n> a \"./logs-to-c && ./evolve -C\" to check the new hitrates afterwards.\n\nMy tendency is to say that we shouldn't tweak at all.\n\n- Dan\n\n"
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"Daniel Quinlan wrote:\n\nDQ> Before we release, it'd be great if someone could test a few\nDQ> additional score ranges. Maybe we can lower FPs a bit more. :-)\n\nI don't think there's much more room for lowering FPs left which the GA can \nachieve. Remember, also, that the AWL will reduce FPs, but its effects aren't \nfactored in to the GA scores.\n\nThe work currently being done on the GA, and comparing different methods of \ndoing the score-setting, is very worthwhile, and extremely useful; however, we \nreally ought to get a release out, since 2.31 is getting decreasingly useful as \ntime goes on.\n\nThe FP/FN rate of 2.40 with pretty well *any* score-setting mechanism will be \nbetter than 2.31 -- we can continue with adjusting how the scores are set on the \n2.41 or 2.50 branches.\n\nDQ> Something like:\nDQ> \nDQ> for (low = -12; low <= -4; low += 2)\nDQ> for (high = 2; high <= 6; high += 2)\nDQ> evolve\n\nYou could just allow low and high to be evolved by the GA (within ranges); I'd \nbe enormously surprised if it didn't end up with low=-12 and high=+6, since \nthat'd give the GA the broadest lattitude in setting individual scores. The \nissue with fixing low and high is not one of optimization, but rather one of \nhuman-based concern that individual scores larger than about +4 are dangerous \nand liable to generate FPs, and individual scores less than -8 are dangerous and \nliable to be forged to generate FNs.\n\nDQ> Maybe even add a nybias loop.\n\nAdding an nybias loop is not worthwhile -- changing nybias scores will just \nalter the evaluation function's idea of what the FP:FN ratio should be.\n\nDQ> > AFAIK there's nothing major hanging out waiting to be checked in \nDQ> > on b2_4_0 is there?\nDQ> \nDQ> Nope.\n\nGreat!\n\nDQ> > I'll be on IM most of today, tomorrow, and monday while cranking \nDQ> > on the next Deersoft product release (should be a fun one). Hit \nDQ> > me at:\nDQ> > \nDQ> > AIM: hugh3scr\nDQ> > ICQ: 1130120\nDQ> > MSN: craig@stanfordalumni.org\nDQ> > YIM: hughescr\nDQ> \nDQ> We've been hanging out on IRC at irc.rhizomatic.net on #spamassassin\nDQ> (the timezone difference gets in the way, though).\n\nI've been searching for that, but I guess the details of where the channel was \ngot lost in the shuffle.\n\nC\n\n\n"
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"\n\nOn Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Rick Beebe wrote:\n\n> > cc: Error: spamd/spamc.c, line 50: In this declaration, \"in_addr_t\" has no\n> > linka\n> > ge and has a prior declaration in this scope at line number 572 in file\n> > /usr/inc\n> > lude/sys/types.h. (nolinkage)\n> > typedef unsigned long in_addr_t; /* base type for internet address\n> > */\n>\n> Don't worry about the warnings. To fix the error, edit spamc.c and right\n\n Thanks for posting this tip - I had the same problem compiling with\nTru64 and that took care of it.\n\n When I did the \"make install\" I got this error:\n\nLOCK: -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf\n || cp rules/local.cf /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf\nsh: syntax error at line 1: `||' unexpected\n*** Exit 2\nStop.\n\n It appears that this comes from the \"inst_cfs:\" part of the Makefile,\nwhich copies local.cf into /etc/mail/spamassassin. The Makefile has\nbrackets around the -f test, but they don't show up above. Any ideas?\n\nJim\n*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*\n* James H. McCullars I Phone: (256) 824-2610 *\n* Director of Systems & Operations I Fax: (256) 824-6643 *\n* Computer & Network Services I Internet: mccullj@email.uah.edu *\n* The University of Alabama I -----------------------------------*\n* in Huntsville I *\n* Huntsville, AL 35899 I This space for rent - CHEAP! *\n*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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["On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 06:53:24PM +0100, Justin Mason wrote:\n> - Razor v2 now supported fully\n\n<grrr> Who changed my code? Dns.pm and Reporter.pm WRT Razor\nhave pointers to $Mail::SpamAssassin::DEBUG, whereas it should be\n$Mail::SpamAssassin::DEBUG->{enabled}...\n\nI'll be submitting a bug/patch for this shortly.\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\nMA Driving #2: Everything is under construction.\n", "…"]
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"I know that I did this during the week that all the catalogue's were\nhokey but after that I changed it back to discovery. So I can see why\npeople are using honor.\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Vipul Ved Prakash [mailto:mail@vipul.net] \nSent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:55 PM\nTo: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net\nSubject: [Razor-users] honor is not in csl\n\n\nFolks, \n\nSome of you seem to have hardcoded honor as the default catalogue\nserver. There are three catalogue only servers running now, and honor is\nacting as a nomination only server. Tonight we will be completely\nturning off catalogue support on honor, so if you are specifying honor\nwith the -rs option, please take it out and let the agents discover a\ncloseby catalogue server.\n\ncheers,\nvipul.\n\n\n-- \n\nVipul Ved Prakash | \"The future is here, it's just not \nSoftware Design Artist | widely distributed.\"\nhttp://vipul.net/ | -- William Gibson\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell\nphone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"I'm after a recipe for using Razor with Sendmail. Unfortunately, I can't \nget Procmail on my hosting but I do have full access to the Sendmail \nalias list.\n\nCan anyone point me at some docs for this as I couldn't find anything in \nthe Razor docs.\n\n-- \nJulian Bond Email&MSM: julian.bond@voidstar.com\nWebmaster: http://www.ecademy.com/\nPersonal WebLog: http://www.voidstar.com/\nCV/Resume: http://www.voidstar.com/cv/\nM: +44 (0)77 5907 2173 T: +44 (0)192 0412 433\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"I recently installed Razor v2.14 and started using it. I am finding it\nnecessary to whitelist a _lot_ of mailing lists. Some, such as yahoogroups,\nI can't whitelist because the from: address is the person making the post,\nso I will have to whitelist on another field when I can modify my code to do\nso. I wonder if someone is not being careful about their submissions, or if\nthese are bad mailing lists that don't drop bad mail addresses that become\ntrollboxes in time.\n\nAny employee who has left my company more than three years ago is eligible\nto become a trollbox. I figure after three years of bounced mail, the list\nshould have figured out they aren't here any more.\n\nFox\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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["On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 03:03:05PM -0400, Rose, Bobby wrote:\n> If you didn't add it when compile would be one way. Another would be to\n> grep your sendmail.cf for the word Milter.\n\nI don't know if there's a sendmail-ish way (it's not in the -d0.1 output),\nbut this should work:\n\n$ strings `which sendmail` | grep -i milter\n\nIf you get a long list of function/message looking phrases, milter\nis built-in. If you get something like:\n\nWarning: Filter usage ('X') requires Milter support (-DMILTER)\nMilter Warning: Option: %s requires Milter support (-DMILTER)\n@(#)$Id: milter.c,v 1.1.1.2 2002/03/12 18:00:36 zarzycki Exp $\n\nthen it's not built-in. :)\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"M: Can anyone tell us the lesson that has been learned here?\n S: Yes Master, not a single one of us could defeat you.\n M: You gain wisdom child ... \" - The Frantics\n", "…"]
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"So, I've been letting the little .exe of SETI@Home run endlessly on my PC . Last total for this upgrade approx.\n420 hours of scanning time. And still no ET. I'm so disappointed.\nDoes anyone else on the list let Berkeley use their computer for research in this manner?\nhttp://setiathome.berkeley.edu\n\n\nDRS\n\n\n\n[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"\"Bort, Paul\" <pbort@tmwsystems.com> wrote:\n>If your sendmail has been compiled with Milter support, you can add SMRazor\n>easily. We've been using it for a while without problems. Others on the list\n>have mentioned it as well.\n>\n>http://www.sapros.com/smrazor/\n\nIs there an easy way to tell if Milter is compiled in?\n\n-- \nJulian Bond Email&MSM: julian.bond@voidstar.com\nWebmaster: http://www.ecademy.com/\nPersonal WebLog: http://www.voidstar.com/\nCV/Resume: http://www.voidstar.com/cv/\nM: +44 (0)77 5907 2173 T: +44 (0)192 0412 433\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"If you didn't add it when compile would be one way. Another would be to\ngrep your sendmail.cf for the word Milter.\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Julian Bond [mailto:julian_bond@voidstar.com] \nSent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:48 PM\nTo: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net\nSubject: Re: [Razor-users] Razor with sendmail\n\n\n\"Bort, Paul\" <pbort@tmwsystems.com> wrote:\n>If your sendmail has been compiled with Milter support, you can add \n>SMRazor easily. We've been using it for a while without problems. \n>Others on the list have mentioned it as well.\n>\n>http://www.sapros.com/smrazor/\n\nIs there an easy way to tell if Milter is compiled in?\n\n-- \nJulian Bond Email&MSM: julian.bond@voidstar.com\nWebmaster: http://www.ecademy.com/\nPersonal WebLog: http://www.voidstar.com/\nCV/Resume: http://www.voidstar.com/cv/\nM: +44 (0)77 5907 2173 T: +44 (0)192 0412 433\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell\nphone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"If you need to store a database password, then\nclearly the first step is to store the text outside the\nweb tree. You can encrypt it and store the encryption key elsewhere,\nso that at least an attacker has to get two different things.\nAlso, don't get full privileges - create a user account that\nis GRANTed very limited access.\n\nHowever, you can often do better than this if security\nis critical. Create a separate program which has these\ndatabase keys (as noted above), and make the web program\ncontact IT. Create a very limited protocol that ONLY\nlets you do the operations you need (you can add specific\noperations later). There's a performance hit, which you're\ntrading for improved data isolation.\n\n\n\nGiorgio Zoppi wrote:\n\n> On Fri, Aug 23, 2002, David Wheeler wrote:\n> \n> \n>>The standard way to store passwords is... not to\n>>store passwords. Instead, store a salted hash of\n>>the password in a database. When you get a purported\n>>password, you re-salt it, compute the hash, and\n>>determine if they are the same. This is how\n>>Unix has done it for years. You want bigger hashes\n>>and salts than the old Unix systems, and you still want\n>>to prevent reading from those files (to foil password crackers).\n>>More info is in my book at:\n>> http://www.dwheeler.com/secure-programs\n>>\n> \n> Well...but this cannot be applied to database password, which most\n> web apps use. The only solution I figure is store in clear outside web\n> tree, any other ideas feasible?\n> \n> Ciao,\n> Giorgio.\n> \n> --\n> Never is Forever - deneb@penguin.it\n> Homepage: http://www.cli.di.unipi.it/~zoppi/index.html\n> --\n> \n> \n> \n\n\n-- \n\n--- David A. Wheeler\n dwheeler@ida.org\n\n\n\n"
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"-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\nHash: SHA1\n\n\nHi, \n I am wondering if there are any techniques to make a CD-Key of the like \nunbreakable. Either by giving it a cancelation date and a periodic renewal \nfrom a server or just by using self md5 signature on the resulting \nexecutable. I know it must not be easy because the whole software piracy \nproblem would be resolved but there must be some way to make it really hard \nto break it. Anyone have hints on this issue ?\n\nThanks\n\n- -- \nYannick Gingras\nNetwork Programer\nESC:wq\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)\nComment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org\n\niD8DBQE9bpYzuv7G0DNFO+QRAqBhAKChTeKXwD8zDMwf+okAKJXnnpknwACgtXZ7\nv3bBABue0VX/Uy86Fhn9Ifs=\n=Uwqj\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----\n\n"
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"-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\nHash: SHA1\n\nLe 3 Septembre 2002 12:43, vous avez écrit :\n> Yannick,\n> You'll want to peruse Fravia's web site on reverse engineering (and other\n> things) http://www.woodmann.com/fravia/protec.htm. That specific page\n> covers just your concerns.\n>\n> Josh\n\nThanks for the input. Some of the tips are quite portable but are there any \nspecial attentions to take when implementing such shemes on a UNIX system ?\n\nThanks.\n\n- -- \nYannick Gingras\nCoder for OBB : Ostentatiously Breathless Brother-in-law\nhttp://OpenBeatBox.org\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)\nComment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org\n\niD8DBQE9dQ6guv7G0DNFO+QRApsXAKCjD98foVvLjet3x9ExtihruvT7KACeNayD\nwDZlxJXjDmLFhNrN97cd73M=\n=4Clx\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----\n\n"
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"-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\nHash: SHA1\n\n> What do you mean by \"CD-Key or the like\" (I presume that \"of\" was a\n> typo)? And what do you mean by \"unbreakable\"?\n\n\"of\" was a typo\n\nUnbreakable would mean here that no one, even previously authorised entity, \ncould use the system without paying the periodic subscription fee.\n\n> You need to be far more explicit about the problem which you wish to\n> solve, and about the constraints involved.\n\nIt could be an online system that work 95% offline but poll frequently an \noffsite server. No mass production CDs, maybe mass personalised d/l like Sun \nJDK.\n\nNothing is fixed yet, we are looking at the way a software can be protected \nfrom unauthorized utilisation. \n\nIs the use of \"trusted hardware\" really worth it ? Does it really make it \nmore secure ? Look at the DVDs.\n\n- -- \nYannick Gingras\nCoder for OBB : Obdurately Buteonine Bellwether\nhttp://OpenBeatBox.org\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)\nComment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org\n\niD8DBQE9dRrnuv7G0DNFO+QRAk8nAKClAhTmyrUgP3ko+DEjcvj0mqfjzACgwQvo\nWZ6/CMUA23HCMZVycd7XD1Q=\n=V2G8\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----\n\n"
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"\nYannick Gingras wrote:\n\n> I am wondering if there are any techniques to make a CD-Key of the like \n> unbreakable. Either by giving it a cancelation date and a periodic renewal \n> from a server or just by using self md5 signature on the resulting \n> executable. I know it must not be easy because the whole software piracy \n> problem would be resolved but there must be some way to make it really hard \n> to break it. Anyone have hints on this issue ?\n\nWhat do you mean by \"CD-Key or the like\" (I presume that \"of\" was a\ntypo)? And what do you mean by \"unbreakable\"?\n\nYou need to be far more explicit about the problem which you wish to\nsolve, and about the constraints involved.\n\nSome general points:\n\n1. For a conventional \"CD key\" system, where the actual CDs are\nmass-produced (where you have many identical CDs), and the entire\nsystem has to work offline, you cannot solve the problem of valid keys\nbeing \"traded\" (e.g. included along with bootleg copies of the\nproduct).\n\nIf there's an online element involved, you can \"tie\" keys to a\nspecific hardware configuration, as is done (AFAIK) for Windows XP's\n\"product activation\".\n\n2. Anything which uses a symmetric cipher (or hash) is bound to be\nvulnerable to reverse engineering of the validation routines within\nthe executable.\n\n3. Ultimately, any software mechanism will be vulnerable to\n\"cracking\", i.e. modifying the software to disable or circumvent the\nvalidation checks.\n\nThis can only be prevented by the use of trusted hardware (e.g. a\nPalladium-style system).\n\nMost significantly, the data must be supplied in a form which is only\naccessible by that hardware. If anyone can get at the data in a\nmeaningful (i.e. unencrypted) form, they can extract the useful parts\nand discard the rest (i.e. any associated protection mechanisms).\n\nIOW, you have to \"keep the genie in the bottle\" at all times. If the\ndata can be got at just once (even if it requires the use of dedicated\nhardware such as a bus analyser), it can then be duplicated and\ndistributed without limit.\n\n-- \nGlynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>\n\n"
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"\nYannick Gingras wrote:\n\n> > What do you mean by \"CD-Key or the like\" (I presume that \"of\" was a\n> > typo)? And what do you mean by \"unbreakable\"?\n> \n> \"of\" was a typo\n> \n> Unbreakable would mean here that no one, even previously authorised entity, \n> could use the system without paying the periodic subscription fee.\n> \n> > You need to be far more explicit about the problem which you wish to\n> > solve, and about the constraints involved.\n> \n> It could be an online system that work 95% offline but poll frequently an \n> offsite server. No mass production CDs, maybe mass personalised d/l like Sun \n> JDK.\n> \n> Nothing is fixed yet, we are looking at the way a software can be protected \n> from unauthorized utilisation. \n> \n> Is the use of \"trusted hardware\" really worth it ?\n\nAnswering that requires fairly complete knowledge of the business\nmodel. But, in all probability: no, it isn't usually worth it. So, it\ncomes down to how difficult you want to make the cracker's job.\n\nIf the product requires occasional authentication, simple copying\nwon't work; the product has to be cracked. In which case, the issue is\nwhether you're actually going to enter into battle with the crackers,\nor just make sure that it isn't trivial.\n\nA lot of it comes down to your customer base. Teenage kids tend to be\nmore concerned about cost and less concerned about viruses/trojans,\nand so more willing to use warez. Fortune-500 corporations are likely\nto view matters differently.\n\n> Does it really make it more secure ?\n\nYes; software techniques will only get you so far. Actually, the same\nis ultimately true for hardware, but cracking hardware is likely to\nrequire resources other than just labour.\n\nAlmost (?) anything can be reverse engineered. But it may be possible\nto ensure that doing so is uneconomical.\n\n> Look at the DVDs.\n\nIIRC, CSS was cracked by reverse-engineering a software player; and\none where the developers forgot to encrypt the decryption key at that.\n\n-- \nGlynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>\n\n"
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"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46455-2002Oct5.html\n\nA New Theory on Mapping the New World\n\nBy Guy Gugliotta\nWashington Post Staff Writer\nMonday, October 7, 2002; Page A07\n\nIn 1507, a group of scholars working in France produced an extraordinary map\nof the world, the first to put the still-recent discoveries of Columbus and\nothers into a new continent separate from Asia, and to call that continent\n\"America.\" With the Waldseemuller map, the New World was born.\nBut there was something else. What would later come to be called South\nAmerica and Central America were surprisingly well-shaped, not only on the\neast coast, where explorers had already sailed, but also on the west coast\n-- which no European was known to have seen.\nThe ice cream cone bulge that sticks out into the Pacific at the junction of\nmodern-day Chile and Peru is readily visible and in almost exactly the right\ngeographical spot -- not only in the main map, but also in an inset printed\nalong its top.\nThe shape of South America in the main map appears distorted because of the\ncurvature of the Earth.\nIt is an improbable coincidence, if it was a coincidence, for the map -- 12\nlarge printed pages to be arrayed in one 36-square-foot wall display -- was\npublished six years before Vasco Balboa's 1513 trip across the Isthmus of\nPanama and 12 years before Ferdinand Magellan's 1519-22 trip around the\nworld.\nDid someone get there earlier?\n...\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"> Software vendors have been trying since forever to prevent software piracy.\n> Remember when you had to enter a specific word from a specific page of the\n> software manual, which was printed on dark maroon paper so that it could\n> not be photocopied? Didn't work. Propritery encoding of DVD's? Didn't\n> work. Software that required the use of a registration key? Didn't work. \n> Windows XP was shipped with this supposedly revolutionary method for\n> stopping piracy, and what happened? How long was it before the code was\n> cracked? How many keygens are there for Windows XP? Is someone running a\n> pirated version of XP really going to use Windows Update to installed a\n> service pack which breaks their OS? Just because M$ didn't include the\n> change in their README? Fat chance.\n\nMy problem is not the same as MS's one, I don't have to deal with millions of \nidentical copy of the same CD with propably millions of working keys. Each \ndownload can be unique with a small preparation delay. The key generator is \na problem only if multiple keys are usable. If the end users are teenagers, \nyou'll face a huge wall when asking to be 100% of the time online but if we \nthink of something like a health care system that keep track of patients \npersonnal information, the end user will be willing to take every possible \nsteps to protect the system from his own employees to use illegaly.\n\nI agree with all of you that mass production CDs will not be safe from piracy \nin a near futur. That can be seen as a collateral of mass market \npenetration.\n\nBTW thanks for all of you who provided interestiong insight. I'm playing with \ngdb's dissassembler now but I don't think it's what a typical cracker would \nuse. Any hints on UNIX cracking tools ?\n\nThanks.\n\n-- \nYannick Gingras\nCoder for OBB : Onside Brainsick Bract\nhttp://OpenBeatBox.org\n\n\n"
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"Yannick Gingras wrote:\n> Is the use of \"trusted hardware\" really worth it ? Does it really make it \n> more secure ? Look at the DVDs.\n\nDVDs don't use trusted hardware. As for whether it is worth it, that \ndepends entirely on what its worth to secure your software.\n\nCheers,\n\nBen.\n\n-- \nhttp://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/\n\n\"There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he\ndoesn't mind who gets the credit.\" - Robert Woodruff\n\n\n"
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"Errr... not to be pedantic or anything, but this is called \"omit one\ntesting\" or OOT in the literature IIRC. Helpful in case you're searching for\nadditional information, say at http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/ for instance.\n\nDavid LeBlanc\nSeattle, WA USA\n\n"
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"David LeBlanc wrote:\n> Errr... not to be pedantic or anything, but this is called \"omit one\n> testing\" or OOT in the literature IIRC.\n\nI have no idea. I made up the name. Thanks for the correction.\n\n Neil\n"
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"[Skip Montanaro]\n> Any thought to wrapping up your spam and ham test sets for\n> inclusion w/ the spambayes project?\n\nI gave it all the thought it deserved <wink>. It would be wonderful to get\nseveral people cranking on the same test data, and I'm all in favor of that.\nOTOH, my Data/ subtree currently has more than 35,000 files slobbering over\n134 million bytes -- even if I had a place to put that much stuff, I'm not\nsure my ISP would let me email it in one msg <wink>.\n\nApart from that, there was a mistake very early on whose outcome was that\nthis isn't the data I hoped I was using. I *hoped* I was using a snapshot\nof only recent msgs (to match the snapshot this way of only spam from 2002),\nbut turns out they actually go back to the last millennium. Greg Ward is\ncurrently capturing a stream coming into python.org, and I hope we can get a\nmore modern, and cleaner, test set out of that. But if that stream contains\nany private email, it may not be ethically possible to make that available.\nCan you think of anyplace to get a large, shareable ham sample apart from a\npublic mailing list? Everyone's eager to share their spam, but spam is so\nmuch alike in so many ways that's the easy half of the data collection\nproblem.\n\n"
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"\n Tim> I gave it all the thought it deserved <wink>. It would be\n Tim> wonderful to get several people cranking on the same test data, and\n Tim> I'm all in favor of that. OTOH, my Data/ subtree currently has\n Tim> more than 35,000 files slobbering over 134 million bytes -- even if\n Tim> I had a place to put that much stuff, I'm not sure my ISP would let\n Tim> me email it in one msg <wink>.\n\nDo you have a dialup or something more modern <wink>? 134MB of messages\nzipped would probably compress pretty well - under 50MB I'd guess with all\nthe similarity in the headers and such. You could zip each of the 10 sets\nindividually and upload them somewhere.\n\n Tim> Can you think of anyplace to get a large, shareable ham sample\n Tim> apart from a public mailing list? Everyone's eager to share their\n Tim> spam, but spam is so much alike in so many ways that's the easy\n Tim> half of the data collection problem.\n\nHow about random sampling lots of public mailing lists via gmane or\nsomething similar, manually cleaning it (distributing that load over a\nnumber of people) and then relying on your clever code and your rebalancing\nscript to help further cleanse it? The \"problem\" with the ham is it tends\nto be much more tied to one person (not just intimate, but unique) than the\nspam.\n\nI save all incoming email for ten days (gzipped mbox format) before it rolls\nover and disappears. At any one time I think I have about 8,000-10,000\nmessages. Most of it isn't terribly personal (which I would cull before\npassing along anyway) and much of it is machine-generated, so would be of\nmarginal use. Finally, it's all ham-n-spam mixed together. Do we call that\nan omelette or a Denny's Grand Slam?\n\nSkip\n"
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"\nI've got a test set here that's the last 3 and a bit years email to\ninfo@ekit.com and info@ekno.com - it's a really ugly set of 20,000+\nmessages, currently broken into 7,000 spam, 9,000 ham, 9,000 currently\nunclassified. These addresses are all over the 70-some different \nekit/ekno/ISIConnect websites, so they get a LOT of spam.\n\nAs well as the usual spam, it also has customers complaining about \ncredit card charges, it has people interested in the service and \nasking questions about long distance rates, &c &c &c. Lots and lots \nof \"commercial\" speech, in other words. Stuff that SA gets pretty \nbadly wrong.\n\nI'm currently mangling it by feeding all parts (text, html, whatever \nelse :) into the filters, as well as both a selected number of headers \n(to, from, content-type, x-mailer), and also a list of \n(header,count_of_header). This is showing up some nice stuff - e.g. the \nX-uidl that stoopid spammers blindly copy into their messages.\n\nI did have Received in there, but it's out for the moment, as it causes\nrates to drop.\n\nI'm also stripping out HTML tags, except for href=\"\" and src=\"\" - there's\nso so much goodness in them (note that I'm only keeping the contents of\nthe attributes). \n\n\n--\nAnthony Baxter <anthony@interlink.com.au>\nIt's never too late to have a happy childhood.\n\n"
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"\n>>> Tim Peters wrote\n> > I've actually got a bunch of spam like that. The text/plain is something\n> > like\n> >\n> > **This is a HTML message**\n> >\n> > and nothing else.\n> \n> Are you sure that's in a text/plain MIME section? I've seen that many times\n> myself, but it's always been in the prologue (*between* MIME sections -- so\n> it's something a non-MIME aware reader will show you).\n\n*nod* I know - on my todo is to feed the prologue into the system as well.\n\nA snippet, hopefully not enough to trigger the spam-filters.\n\n\nTo: into89j@gin.elax.ekorp.com\nX-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.1712.3\nX-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V??D.1712.3\nMime-Version: 1.0\nDate: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:54:39 -0500\nContent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=\"----=_NextPart_000_007F_01BDF6C7.FABAC1\nB0\"\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\n\nThis is a MIME Message\n\n------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0\nContent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=\"----=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.\nFABAC1B0\"\n\n------=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"iso-8859-1\"\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable\n\n***** This is an HTML Message ! *****\n\n\n------=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0\nContent-Type: text/html; charset=\"iso-8859-1\"\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable\n\n<!doctype html public \"-//w3c//dtd html 4=2E0\n transitional//en\">\n <html>\n <head>\n \n\n"
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"\n>>> Anthony Baxter wrote\n> I'm currently mangling it by feeding all parts (text, html, whatever \n> else :) into the filters, as well as both a selected number of headers \n> (to, from, content-type, x-mailer), and also a list of \n> (header,count_of_header). This is showing up some nice stuff - e.g. the \n> X-uidl that stoopid spammers blindly copy into their messages.\n\nThe other thing on my todo list (probably tonight's tram ride home) is\nto add all headers from non-text parts of multipart messages. If nothing\nelse, it'll pick up most virus email real quick.\n\n\n\n-- \nAnthony Baxter <anthony@interlink.com.au> \nIt's never too late to have a happy childhood.\n\n"
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["On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 06:53:24PM +0100, Justin Mason wrote:\n> - Razor v2 now supported fully\n\n<grrr> Who changed my code? Dns.pm and Reporter.pm WRT Razor\nhave pointers to $Mail::SpamAssassin::DEBUG, whereas it should be\n$Mail::SpamAssassin::DEBUG->{enabled}...\n\nI'll be submitting a bug/patch for this shortly.\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\nMA Driving #2: Everything is under construction.\n", "…"]
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"Hi\n\nI've just installed SpamAssassin and relevant modules.\nJust tried the initial test: \n\nspamassassin -t < sample-nonspam.txt > nonspam.out\n\nand got back:\n\nBroken Pipe\n\nI've also tried using the -P and --pipe option but to\nno avail.\n\nAny help greatly appreciated. BTW - I'm no great Perl\nexpert!\n\nrgds\n\nPeter\n\n__________________________________________________\nDo You Yahoo!?\nEverything you'll ever need on one web page\nfrom News and Sport to Email and Music Charts\nhttp://uk.my.yahoo.com\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/masses/tenpass\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv26829/tenpass\n\nLog Message:\nDirectory /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/masses/tenpass added to the repository\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=804\n\njm@jmason.org changed:\n\n What |Removed |Added\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Status|NEW |RESOLVED\n Resolution| |FIXED\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2002-09-02 14:58 -------\nok, now in.\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Justin Mason wrote:\n\n=>http://spamassassin.org/released/ :\n=>\n=> 508284 Sep 2 18:27 Mail-SpamAssassin-2.40.tar.gz\n=> 561425 Sep 2 18:27 Mail-SpamAssassin-2.40.zip\n=>\nNot that I'm not grateful, but..... :-)\n\nI'd really like to install from a src rpm. Any takers? :-)\n\nTIA\n\n-- \n-Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have -\n-happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ\n-Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all-\n-individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo@syslang.net\n\n\n"
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"\n\"Craig R.Hughes\" said:\n\n> Seems like a good idea. We might get one of two other issues \n> raised tomorrow too once US people get back to work tomorrow and \n> start downloading 2.40 in earnest.\n\nyep, I reckon that's likely.\n\nBTW I'm hearing reports about problems resolving spamassassin.org.\nAnyone else noticing this? if it's serious I'll see if I can get\nMark Reynolds to add a 2ndary in the US, to go with the primaries\nin Oz.\n\n> > - looks like there may be a razor2 issue\n\nI think this is a Razor bug/glitch triggered when file permissions\ndon't allow its own log system to work. At least that's the report\nI heard on the Razor list in the past...\n\nTheo, does it work now that you /dev/null'd the logfile?\n\n> > - version number (says \"cvs\")\n> > - tag tree as \"Rel\" this time too\n\nI won't bother tagging with Rel, IMO; I don't think we should\nrely on the version control system inside our code, so I've just\nput a line in Mail/SpamAssassin.pm instead. I will of course\ntag with a release *label* though.\n\n--j.\n\n"
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"Yes - great minds think alike. But even withput eval rules it would be very \nuseful. It would allow us to respond quickly to spammer's tricks.\n\nTheo Van Dinter wrote:\n> On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 07:27:52AM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:\n> \n>>Has anyone though of the idea of live updates of rules after release? The \n>>idea being that the user can run a cron job once a week or so and get the \n>>new default rule set. This would allow us to react faster to:\n> \n> \n> I suggested this a few months ago. I don't remember the details of what\n> came out of it except that it would only be useful for non-eval rules\n> since those require code changes.\n> \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"Ananova:  \nMan admits Soham kidnapping hoax calls\n\nA man has admitted making hoax calls to police investigating the\ndisappearance of Soham schoolgirls Jessica Chapman and Holly Wells.\nWrexham Magistrates Court, in North Wales, heard jobless Howard Youde made\nthree calls to police in Cambridgeshire claiming to have abducted the\nyoungsters.\nHe was arrested in Wrexham in the early hours of August 16 when officers\ntraced the call to a phone box on the town's Brook Street.\nThe 45-year-old, of Queensway, Hope, near Wrexham, has pleaded guilty to one\ncount of wasting police time on August 15 this year.\nThe court was told Youde claimed to have no recollection of making the calls\nhaving been drinking all day.\nDefence lawyer Mark Arden says the offence was neither premeditated nor\ncalculated but added that this was no excuse.\nHe said: \"What he's done is horrific. It's unforgivable. The distress he's\ncaused the families is unacceptable.\"\nYoude has been released on unconditional bail until November 7 when he will\nbe sentenced.\nThe hearing has been adjourned for pre-sentence reports although the\ndefendant has been warned custody is an option.\nStory filed: 12:36 Monday 7th October 2002\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"\n\"zeek\" said:\n\n> This was thoroughly confusing, but by playing musical chairs with the spamd\n> args I smashed a bug:\n> \n> OK:\n> spamd --debug --daemonize --auto-whitelist --username=nobody --allowed-ips=1\n> 27.0.0.1\"\n> OK:\n> spamd --debug --daemonize --auto-whitelist --username=nobody --allowed-ips=1\n> 27.0.0.1, 192.168.1.1\"\n> NOT OK:\n> spamd --debug --daemonize --auto-whitelist --username=nobody --allowed-ips=1\n> 92.168.1.1, 127.0.0.1\"\n\nfwiw, I can't reproduce this with\n\n spamd --debug --auto-whitelist --allowed-ips=\"127.0.0.1\"\n spamd --debug --auto-whitelist --allowed-ips=\"127.0.0.1, 192.168.1.1\"\n spamd --debug --auto-whitelist --allowed-ips=\"192.168.1.1, 127.0.0.1\"\n\nwhich I presume is what you meant (except for the missing args\nof course). They all seem to work OK.\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv17809/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin\n\nModified Files:\n Tag: b2_4_0\n\tConf.pm \nLog Message:\nadded deprecation regarding starting line with space; reserved for future use; also changed sample version_tag\n\nIndex: Conf.pm\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm,v\nretrieving revision 1.91.2.7\nretrieving revision 1.91.2.8\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.91.2.7 -r1.91.2.8\n--- Conf.pm\t29 Aug 2002 14:52:43 -0000\t1.91.2.7\n+++ Conf.pm\t4 Sep 2002 15:22:39 -0000\t1.91.2.8\n@@ -24,8 +24,11 @@\n files, loaded from the /usr/share/spamassassin and /etc/mail/spamassassin\n directories.\n \n-The C<#> character starts a comment, which continues until end of line,\n-and whitespace in the files is not significant.\n+The C<#> character starts a comment, which continues until end of line.\n+\n+Whitespace in the files is not significant, but please note that starting a\n+line with whitespace is deprecated, as we reserve its use for multi-line rule\n+definitions, at some point in the future.\n \n Paths can use C<~> to refer to the user's home directory.\n \n@@ -257,7 +260,7 @@\n \n eg.\n \n- version_tag perkel2 # version=2.40-perkel2\n+ version_tag myrules1 # version=2.41-myrules1\n \n =cut\n \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n"
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["This is a warning message only.\n Your message remains in the server queue,\n the server will try to send it again.\n You should not try to resend your message now.\n\nMessage delivery to 'casimir@tgsnopec.com' delayed\nSMTP module(domain tgsnopec.com) reports:\n relay.tgsnopec.com: no response\n\n", ["", ""], "Received: from [216.136.171.252] (HELO usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net)\n by mx1.yipes.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.1)\n with ESMTP-TLS id 6627220 for casimir@tgsnopec.com; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 01:35:26 -0700\nReceived: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net)\n\tby usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian))\n\tid 17mryq-0000eK-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 01:27:12 -0700\nReceived: from hippo.star.co.uk ([195.216.14.9])\n\tby usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian))\n\tid 17mryb-000529-00\n\tfor <spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 01:26:58 -0700\nReceived: from MATT_LINUX by hippo.star.co.uk\n via smtpd (for usw-sf-lists.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.198]) with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 08:17:57 UT\nReceived: (qmail 28723 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 08:22:05 -0000\nReceived: from unknown (HELO startechgroup.co.uk) (10.2.100.178)\n by matt?dev.int.star.co.uk with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 08:22:05 -0000\nMessage-ID: <3D77146F.1000603@startechgroup.co.uk>\nFrom: Matt Sergeant <msergeant@startechgroup.co.uk>\nUser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020901\nX-Accept-Language: en-us, en\nMIME-Version: 1.0\nTo: \"Rose, Bobby\" <brose@med.wayne.edu>\nCC: Justin Mason <yyyy@example.com>, \n spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nSubject: Re: [SAtalk] [OT] Perl problem and 2.40 released\nReferences: <D79A56AD131896448D0860DEE07CBE1FE1DE@med-core07.med.wayne.edu>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\nSender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net\nErrors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net\nX-BeenThere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net\nX-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net\nPrecedence: bulk\nList-Help: <mailto:spamassassin-talk-request@example.sourceforge.net?subject=help>\nList-Post: <mailto:spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net>\nList-Subscribe: <https://example.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk>,\n\t<mailto:spamassassin-talk-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe>\nList-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin <spamassassin-talk.example.sourceforge.net>\nList-Unsubscribe: <https://example.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk>,\n\t<mailto:spamassassin-talk-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe>\nList-Archive: <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=spamassassin-talk>\nX-Original-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:23:11 +0100\nDate: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:23:11 +0100\n"]
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"On Thursday 05 September 2002 04:10 CET Mike Burger wrote:\n> Just loaded up SA 2.40 from Theo's RPMs...spamassassin-2.40-1 and\n> perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.40-1 on a RH 7.1 system with perl 5.6.1 running\n> on it.\n>\n> I'm getting messages that seem to indicate that SA can't find\n> PerMsgStatus, like so:\n>\n> Sep 4 21:01:59 burgers spamd[17579]: Failed to run CTYPE_JUST_HTML\n> SpamAssassin test, skipping: ^I(Can't locate object method\n> \"check_for_content_type_just_html\" via package\n> \"Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus\" (perhaps you forgot to load\n> \"Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus\"?) at\n> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line\n> 1814, <STDIN> line 21. )\n>\n>[...]\n>\n> Any ideas?\n\nPerl doesn't complain that it can't find PerMsgStatus.pm but the function \ncheck_for_content_type_just_html(). Do you probably have some old rules \nfiles still lurking around? This test existed in 2.31 but is gone/was \nrenamed with 2.40.\n\nMalte\n\n-- \n-- Coding is art.\n-- \n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"\n\"Clark C . Evans\" said:\n\n> Hello. I'm hosted on a FreeBSD box where I can't modify the\n> local Perl installation. I downloaded and installed procmail\n> in my home directory, and now I'm trying to get spamassassin to work...\n> \n> bash-2.05$ perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/home/cce SYSCONFDIF=/home/cce/etc\n> Warning: prerequisite HTML::Parser 0 not found at (eval 1) line 219.\n> Warning: prerequisite Pod::Usage 0 not found at (eval 1) line 219.\n> 'SYSCONFDIF' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name.\n\nSYSCONFDIR.\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"\n\"Kerry Nice\" said:\n\n> What about some reality check rules. Yeah, you can pack in lots of things\n> into the header to try and get some negative points, but do they all make\n> sense in combination. Can you have a Pine message id in the same header\n> with an Outlook Express one or a Mutt User-Agent?\n\nYes, this is a big bonus of meta rules (new in 2.40); we can now\ne.g. check for an Outlook-style forwarded message, and not give\nit negative points unless it contains other signs of being from\nOutlook.\n\n> I think the headers should be paid special attention to. The message\n> content of something from the NY Times or Lockergnome might look spammy, but\n> usually they don't forge or fake anything in the header. Tone down the\n> negative scores and ding them extra for any obvious forgeries.\n\nWhen we get more (good) \"nice\" tests, the GA will assign lower\nscores to them. I think the current problem is that there are\nvery few really good nice tests in the current rulebase, and lots\nof +ve tests that those newsletters hit, giving the GA a big\nproblem to solve.\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"BTW, I've been thinking a little about the RPMs and other packages.\nAlready the PLD guys are distributing 3 rpms:\n\n - perl-Mail-SpamAssassin\n\n the perl modules.\n\n - spamassassin\n\n the \"spamassassin\" and \"spamd\" scripts,\n spamd rc-file etc.\n\n - spamassassin-tools\n\n mass-check, masses directory stuff, etc.\n for generating rescore data from corpora.\n\nThis seems like a good way to do it; this way, stuff which just needs\nthe perl modules doesn't need to require the full RPM be installed,\nwith RC files in init.d etc.\n\nIt's been adopted in the distributed .spec file, anyway.\n\nTheo, BTW, what's the eval test you add in the tvd version of the RPM?\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"It's possible...I performed the update via \"rpm -U\"...which, of course, \ncreated all the new rulesets as \"xx_rulename.cf.rpmnew\" Crud. I'll have \nto start moving things around.\n\nOn Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Malte S. Stretz wrote:\n\n> On Thursday 05 September 2002 04:10 CET Mike Burger wrote:\n> > Just loaded up SA 2.40 from Theo's RPMs...spamassassin-2.40-1 and\n> > perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.40-1 on a RH 7.1 system with perl 5.6.1 running\n> > on it.\n> >\n> > I'm getting messages that seem to indicate that SA can't find\n> > PerMsgStatus, like so:\n> >\n> > Sep 4 21:01:59 burgers spamd[17579]: Failed to run CTYPE_JUST_HTML\n> > SpamAssassin test, skipping: ^I(Can't locate object method\n> > \"check_for_content_type_just_html\" via package\n> > \"Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus\" (perhaps you forgot to load\n> > \"Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus\"?) at\n> > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line\n> > 1814, <STDIN> line 21. )\n> >\n> >[...]\n> >\n> > Any ideas?\n> \n> Perl doesn't complain that it can't find PerMsgStatus.pm but the function \n> check_for_content_type_just_html(). Do you probably have some old rules \n> files still lurking around? This test existed in 2.31 but is gone/was \n> renamed with 2.40.\n> \n> Malte\n> \n> \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"> That always amazes me about 'regular' dreams - how often they come true.\n>\nIn 1993 or so, when I was a student in Edinburgh, I had a bad dream about\nbeing chased around a house by a scary murderous tramp who was carrying a\nbag full of half-penny coins (which had long since ceased to be legal\ntender). The next morning as I left the flat, I found a half-penny on the\ndoormat right outside our door. Fair gave me the willies, that did.\n\nTimC\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"I finally found the SpamAssassin ninja's! After months of searchng.. I\nfound the litte guys at a bowling alley in Valencia! Here's a shot of my\nbeloved clan!\n\nhttp://www.mattahfahtu.com/\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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["On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 11:32:01AM -0500, Josh Hildebrand wrote:\n> Unfortunately, when I run that, it complains about the H parameter.\n> \n> -F 0|1 remove/add 'From ' line at start of output (default: 1)\n> \n> But I can run it on the command line as \"spamd -d -c -a -H\" just fine.\n> \n> Anyone else run into this problem?\n\nyou look to have 2 versions of spamd installed. The one running from\nthe RC script is pre-2.4 (there is a -H now, and -F has been removed),\nbut the one you run from the commandline seems to be a 2.4x version.\n\nI would find that old version of SA and blow it away.\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"If you lend someone $20, and never see that person again, it was probably\n worth it.\" - Zen Musings\n", "…"]
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"On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 06:22:52PM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:\n> Can anyone out there who uses SA with lotus notes users help us figure \n> out what to tell customers to do when they've got emails coming in with \n> spam identifying headers? We've been told that Notes has no way to \n> handle extra headers, but I'm sure that can't be universally true.\n> \n> I've searched the 'net, and it seems that Notes can only filter based on \n> the \"visible\" headers, i.e. sender, subject, precedence, etc. Is there \n> any way to filter based on X- headers?\n\n=> Yes the only way out with Notes looks like changing the subject \n(subject_tag). \n\nRegards, \n\nSL/\n---\nStephane Lentz / Alcanet International - Internet Services\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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["On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 10:09:19AM -0700, bugzilla-daemon@hughes-family.org wrote:\n> another (or would look terrible). Let's just use a letter. If\n> aesthetics are your concern, I think an \"x\" will look just fine.\n\n\"x\" is fine, but let's not take out the config option. if people really\nwant to have it be something else, we shouldn't hinder them.\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"And the next time you consider complaining that running Lucid Emacs\n 19.05 via NFS from a remote Linux machine in Paraguay doesn't seem to\n get the background colors right, you'll know who to thank.\"\n (By Matt Welsh)\n", "…"]
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"On Saturday 07 September 2002 23:22 CET Daniel Quinlan wrote:\n> Craig Hughes <craig@hughes-family.org> writes:\n> > How about configuring SA to set precendence to \"low\" for spam\n> > messages, then filter on that -- no real human I've ever seen has\n> > actually set precendence to low on real mail.\n>\n> Assuming there isn't a better way for Lotus Notes users, we could\n> create a \"Precedence: spam\" convention. The only two Precedence:\n> headers I've seen (aside from one or two odd messages) are \"bulk\" and\n> \"list\". Adding a \"spam\" header makes sense given the convention.\n\nI'd suggest using Precedence: junk. Albeit it's no standard header does most \nSoftware already recognize it. Courier eg. doesn't send auto-replies to \nmails with the Precedence bulk or junk. I think Outlook does handle these \nspecial, too. [1] says:\n| Autoresponses should always contain the header\n| Precedence: junk\n| Notice the spelling of \"prec-e-dence\". In particular, count the number of\n| n:s (and a:s and s:es, if you're totally agraphic and/or from the United\n| States). This will prevent well-tempered mail programs from generating\n| bounce messages for these. If the recipient can't be reached, the\n| autoresponder message is simply discarded. \n| [...]\n| (For what it's worth, the meaning of the Precedence header in practice is\n| that it affects Sendmail so that messages identified as less important get\n| moved back in the queue under high load. [...])\n\n>[...]\n\nMalte\n\n[1] Moronic Mail Autoresponders (A FAQ From Hell):\nhttp://www.ling.helsinki.fi/users/reriksso/mail/autoresponder-faq.html\n-- \n--- Coding is art.\n-- \n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"I thought I'd installed razor correctly, but I am seeing the following in my \nlogs. Can anyone give me a hitn?\n\nSep 8 06:46:45 omega spamd[6514]: razor2 check skipped: No such file or \ndirectory Can't locate object method \"new\" via package \"Net::DNS::Resolver\" \n(perhaps you forgot to load \"Net::DNS::Resolver\"?) at (eval 31) line 1, \n<STDIN> line 114. ^I...propagated at \n/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 392, <STDIN> \nline 114.\n\n-- \nRobin Lynn Frank\nParadigm-Omega, LLC\n==================================\nThe only certainty about documentation is that\nwhoever wrote it \"might\" have understood it.\nThe rest of us may not be so lucky.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"On Monday 09 September 2002 11:13 CET Matt Sergeant wrote:\n> Malte S. Stretz wrote:\n> >[...]\n> > So I'd vote for a complete removal of 60_whitelists.cf and a page\n> > http://spamassassin.org/tests/whitelists.html where we list common\n> > whitelist entries instead.\n>\n> I would happily agree to that.\n>\n> Though maybe it should be a wiki... ;-)\n\nJust imagine what Ronnie Scelson would do to a wiki *shudder*\n\nM\n-- \n--- Coding is art.\n-- \n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=486\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From larry@5points.net 2002-09-10 08:45 -------\nDan,\n\nTo answer your question to my post (which maybe should be a seperate bug?) I'm \nusing Spamassassin version 2.30\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"> Anyone know what Quaoar means or stands for? Can't find it in the\n> dictionary. Scrabble players should be happy!\n>\nhttp://www.angelfire.com/journal/cathbodua/Gods/Qgods.html\n\nQuaoar Their only god who 'came down from heaven; and, after reducing chaos\nto order, out the world on the back of seven giants. He then created the\nlower animals,' and then mankind. Los Angeles County Indians, California \n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nHome Selling? Try Us!\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"On Wednesday 11 September 2002 16:19 CET Justin Mason wrote:\n> Malte S. Stretz said:\n>[...]\n> > I think we should even add new (GA'd) rules to 2.4x (and/or remove old\n> > ones) and tag a new 2.50 only if we have a bunch of features worth a\n> > \"dangerous\" big update. I'd say: Yes, you should expect 2.42 and also\n> > 2.43+ (but update to 2.41 now).\n>\n> I would think adding new rules to, or removing broken rules from, 2.4x\n> would require some discussion first. but new GA'd scores are definitely\n> worth putting in, as the ones there are too wild.\n\nI think my mail wasn't very clear ;-) My point was that we should continue \nreleasing new rules and removing broken ones (all based on discussions on \nthis list of course) in the 2.4 branch instead of creating a new 2.5 branch \neverytime we have a bunch of new rules.\n\nA new branch should be openend only if (big) new features are introduced \n(eg. Bayes) or the interface has changed (spam_level_char=x). As the rules \nare under fluent development, the user has to update quite regularly. But \ncurrently he couldn't be shure if the new release will break anything in \nhis setup (like -F going away). So if we say \"the branches are stable to \nthe outside and just improved under the surface but you have to watch out \nwhen you update to a new minor version number\", users and sysadmins could \nbe less reluctant to update.\n\nAll just IMHO :o)\nMalte\n\nP.S.: I'll be away from my box and my mail account for one week, starting \ntomorrow. So happy coding for the next week :-)\n\n-- \n--- Coding is art.\n-- \n\n\n\n"
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"This is not directly SpamAssassin related, but more of a general\ndealing-with-SPAM issue.\n\nWhat is the best way to deal with SPAM during the SMTP transaction?\nThere are domains and addresses that I know are SPAM at the 'MAIL\nFROM' and can deal with at the SMTP level. I have been, and I think\nmost people, respond with a 5.7.1 code, a \"permanent\" error. That\npretty much means, \"Don't bother to try from that address again,\nyou'll get the same error.\" People often add cathartic messages to\naccompany the 550 like, \"Spammers must die.\"\n\nBut this might not be the best way to go. You are telling the spammers\nthat you are on to them. This may cause them to try other methods to\nget around your blocks. Is it perhaps better to blackhole the mail?\nThat is, act like everything is OK during the SMTP transaction, but\nthen just drop the mail into the bitbucket. (This is generally how\nSpamAssassin works since almost everyone uses it after the SMTP\ntransaction has completed successfully.) Spammer thinks everything is\ngoing fine and has no reason to try new methods.\n\nThen there is a third possibility. Instead of returning a 550 code\nindicating you're on to the spammer, fake a 5.1.1 response which is\nsaying \"mailbox does not exist.\" This would be in the hopes that some\nspammers out there actually remove names reported as non-existent from\ntheir lists. I know, a slim hope, but even if only a few do, it can\nlower the incidence.\n\nSo, what are the arguments for each? Do spammers even look at _any_ of\nthe bounce messages they get? The volume of bounces must be\nhuge. Personally, I'm starting to think blackholes are the way to\ngo... But sending back that \"Spammer die, die, die,\" or stock \"Access\nDEE-NIED!\" (my ephasis added) message can be pretty satisfying. ;)\n-- \nCrist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu\n | cjclark@jhu.edu\nhttp://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"\nRobert Strickler said:\n\n> Looks like we need an identity stamp in the X-Spam headers so that SA only\n> accepts headers from authorized sources.\n\nWell, SpamAssassin will just ignore any old X-Spam-whatever headers\nit finds, so that cannot be used to get around the filter.\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"I successfully installed spamassassin & razor to run system wide on my\nDebian Woody server. \n \nBriefly I \napt-get installed spamassassin razor and libmilter-dev,\n \ndownloaded spamass-milter-0.1.2.tar.gz from http://www.milter.org,\nungzipped and untarred the file into /etc/mail, \n \nfollowed the directions in /etc/mail/spamass-milter-0.1.2/README to\ncompile the milter, install the rc scripts, and edit and update\nsendmail.mc\n \nchanged /etc/default/spamassassin to set spamassassin to daemon mode.\n \nverified that spamassassin was running by tailing /var/log/mail.log\n \n \nWoody/stable has SA 2.20\nWoody/unstable has SA 2.41\n\nI'm running the stable source live right now and it is working very\nwell.\n\nIf you want unstable change /etc/apt/sources.list, substituting\n\"unstable\" for \"stable\",\nRun apt-get update\nInstall the unstable versions\nChange /etc/apt/sources.list\nRun apt-get update\n\n\nQuentin Krengel\nKrengel Technology Inc\n\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net\n[mailto:spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of\nTanniel Simonian\nSent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:15 PM\nTo: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net\nSubject: [SAtalk] Debianized Packages for SA 2.3+\n\n\nIm currently using woody.\n\nIs there a debianized package for SA on Woody, or at least somewhere I\ncan download from? Its been soo long that I haven't compiled stuff, that\nIm sort of shy to try again. =)\n\n\n\n-- \nTanniel Simonian\nProgrammer / Analyst III\nUCR Libraries\nhttp://libsys.ucr.edu\n909 787 2832\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/ _______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"