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"On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 01:46:19PM -0700, David Raistrick wrote:\n> On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Stephane Lentz wrote:\n> \n> > => I faced a similar problem with the FreeBSD when trying to \n> > install SpamAssassin through the ports on my fresh FreeBSD 4.6.2. \n> > I had to define PERL5LIB with some given order of directories\n> > so that the latest File::Spec module get used. \n> \n> Good to hear it's not just me. Mind telling me how you set PERL5LIB\n> specificly? I've tried a few things (setenv in the shell, as well as\n> $PERL5LIB == ...inside the Makefile.PL, even on the perl command\n> line..) with no success.\n> \n- Presuming your run Bash :\nNote the directory lists \n# perl -e 'map { print \"$_\\n\" } @INC'\nThen set up the Shell variable PERL5LIB variable (and put it in some .bashrc \nfor future use)\n# export PERL5LIB=\"directory1:directory2:directory3:directory4\"\nThen try to install the software\n\nPERL5LIB is explained perlrun(1) : do \n# man perlrun for more information\n\nRegards, \n\nSL/\n---\nStephane Lentz / Alcanet International - Internet Services\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"So far today, I've found eff.org and mandrakesoft.com in DCC. My confidence \nin DCC is beginning to drop.\n-- \nRobin Lynn Frank\nParadigm-Omega, LLC\n==================================\nNo electrons were harmed in the sending\nof this message. However, two neutrons and \na proton complained about the noise.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"\n\nOn 9/11/2002 at 10:01 AM spamassassin-talk-request@lists.sourceforge.net\nspamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:\n\n\n>Message: 15\n>From: Vivek Khera <khera@kcilink.com>\n>Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:06:55 -0400\n>To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net\n>Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Calypso email = ratware? \n>\n>>>>>> \"JM\" == Justin Mason <jm@jmason.org> writes:\n>\n>JM> Now all we need to do is get all the SpamAssassin users out there to\n>JM> upgrade...\n>\n>Considering that the rules need to adapt to the changing look and feel\n>of spam vs. non-spam, does it make sense to have SA automatically\n>issue a notice when it is, say 9 months old, recommending that the\n>user/operator check for updated rules?\n>\n>Sort of like a nag-ware feature, but in self-defense for the user, not\n>the vendor ;-)\n>\n>-- \n>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\n>Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc.\n>Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497\n>AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/\n\nbetter yet would be a built-in server check on a periodic basis, even\ndaily, looking for the existence of an update, and if found prompt the\nsystem admin to upgrade the server. With the ever changing face of spam,\nthis would probably be a big benefit to SA users and help keep everyone up\nto date. We have not done this with too many of the apps we sell on\nwww.RoseCitySoftware.com strictly because of joe-average-user concerns\nabout spyware and \"phoning home\", but in cases where the app needs to\naccess the internet anyhow, we have done it with great success and minimal\nconcern by our users.\n\n----\nJoseph Burke\nPresident/CEO\nInfiniSource, Inc.\n<jburke@infinisource.com> \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"> > Ok, but you'll still let me leave that black and white one there too,\n>> right? I like that one!!!\n>> --\n>>\n>>\n>> Fel\n>\n>Okay. I see you like that 1940's starlet look then....\n>\n>I should think about a bio bit, but maybe I'll just remain enigmatic and\n>maintain my mystique*\n>\n>Helen of Troy\n>*by Lentheric :-)\n>\nOr you could let me write one for you? Mind you ...... I know an \nawful lot about you! ;-))\n\nYes, I like that starlet look, but I think you should come out from \nbehind that bike too and let us see what you are wearing. looks \npretty innerestin'\n-- \n\n\nFel\nNEW!! Cafe Forteana is back: http://www.frogstone.net/Cafe/CafeForteana.html\nhttp://www.frogstone.net\nWeird Page: http://my.athenet.net/~felinda/WeirdPage.html\n\n[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nSell a Home with Ease!\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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">Anyway I'm making good progress and my implementation works reasonably\n>well. It now seems blindingly clear that we want a tightly-integrated\n>implementation of Naive Bayes spam/nonspam classification. There are\n>still some things about how to do this right inside SA that I still am\n>figuring out.\n>\n>Dan\n\nThis is very good news! Will this allow for individual spam word file\npreferences when spamassassin is running on a mailserver for multiple\nusers? This would be an outstanding addition if it can be done. Thanks\nmuch for a great project.\n\n-- \nRegards,\n\nEric Mings Ph.D.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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["I installed Spamassassin 2.41 with Razor V2 the other day and it has been working great. I decided to add Pyzor last night and I got that installed successfully (I think, no errors). I am using spamd and I see where it periodically spawns off a pyzor process; however nothing has been detected as spam by Pyzor under Spamassassin. It has been running for almost half a day now on a 5,000 user mail server - so to me the odds of something being caught by it should be high. I run spamd as follows:\n\nspamd -d -H\n\nand all my users home directories have a .pyzor directory with the server listed under it.\n\nI setup a test procmail recipe that just invokes pyzor check and not spamc to see if in fact pyzor alone catches any spam - I just set this up so no results yet. Here is what I get when I check connectivity to the pyzor server:\n\n pyzor -d ping\nsending: 'User: anonymous\\nTime: 1031921041\\nSig: 161c547ac6248589910f97b1b5cd37e6dffc8eaf\\n\\nOp: ping\\nThread: 14733\\nPV: 2.0\\n\\n'\nreceived: 'Thread: 14733\\nCode: 200\\nDiag: OK\\nPV: 2.0\\n\\n'\n167.206.208.233:24442 (200, 'OK')\n\nAny help/examples would be appreciated. Thanks! BTW, keep up the great work Spamassassin team!\n\nNick\n\n\n---\nOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free.\nChecked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).\nVersion: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: 9/9/2002\n", "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN\">\n<HTML><HEAD>\n<META http-equiv=Content-Type content=\"text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\">\n<META content=\"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0\" name=GENERATOR>\n<STYLE></STYLE>\n</HEAD>\n<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I installed Spamassassin 2.41&nbsp;with Razor V2 \nthe other day and it has been working great. I decided to add Pyzor last night \nand I got that installed successfully (I think, no errors). I am using spamd and \nI see where it periodically spawns off a pyzor process; however nothing has been \ndetected as spam by Pyzor under Spamassassin. It has been running for almost \nhalf a day now on a 5,000 user mail server - so to me the odds of something \nbeing caught by it should be high. I run spamd as follows:</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>spamd -d -H</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and all my users home directories have a .pyzor \ndirectory with the server listed under it.</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I setup a test procmail recipe that just invokes \npyzor check and not spamc to see if in fact pyzor alone catches any spam - \n&nbsp;I just set this up so no results yet. Here is what I get when I check \nconnectivity to the pyzor server:</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;pyzor -d ping<BR>sending: 'User: \nanonymous\\nTime: 1031921041\\nSig: \n161c547ac6248589910f97b1b5cd37e6dffc8eaf\\n\\nOp: ping\\nThread: 14733\\nPV: \n2.0\\n\\n'<BR>received: 'Thread: 14733\\nCode: 200\\nDiag: OK\\nPV: \n2.0\\n\\n'<BR>167.206.208.233:24442&nbsp;&nbsp; (200, 'OK')</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any help/examples would be appreciated. Thanks! \nBTW, keep up the great work Spamassassin team!</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nick</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is certified Virus \nFree.<BR>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<A \nhref=\"http://www.grisoft.com\">http://www.grisoft.com</A>).<BR>Version: 6.0.386 / \nVirus Database: 218 - Release Date: 9/9/2002</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>\n"]
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["On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 03:21:08PM +0200, carlo@alinoe.com wrote:\n> So... it seems to me that they DO clean up\n> their lists, but only when a spam fails to\n> deliver - or can't they detect that?\n> \n> What do spammers do with email addresses in\n> their database that are undeliverable for a\n> few years? Do they still continue to spam\n> them?\n\nWell, here's my semi-coherent rant for the moment. ;)\n\nI have >3100 spamtraps on my machine (you can multiply that by each domain\nif you really want to). The vast majority (all but, say, 10) have never\never existed. Yet, spammers would semi-continuously connect, try to\ndeliver mail to 40 of them, disconnect, connect again, try delivering\nto 40 more... over and over, they kept getting \"User unknown\" until I\ngot around to making them spamtraps.\n\nSo my evidence would suggest that it depends who you're dealing with. :)\nIf your \"business\" is to sell address lists to people who would then spam,\nit's in your best interest to never clean your list. Therefore you can\nsay \"10 million email addresses\" and not technically be lying, even if\nthe majority of them don't work.\n\nIf you're a spammer, you'd want to know who doesn't actually exist, but\nthen again you don't really care: you probably want to relay through\nsomeone so it's harder to trace you, if you could you'd send to every\nemail address available, you don't want to setup a valid bounce address\nbecause again it's easy to trace you.\n\nSo I would say this, if you technically spam people but actually think\nyou're running a legit service, you probably really do have a way of\nopting out (even though the user didn't opt in) and you probably don't\nrelay, and you probably pay attention to bounces.\n\nEveryone else doesn't really care.\n\n\nThat's my view anyway. :)\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"Now you can do that thing with your hands... It's ok.\" - Prof. Farr\n", "…"]
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"On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 the voices made carlo@alinoe.com write:\n\n> What do spammers do with email addresses in\n> their database that are undeliverable for a\n> few years? Do they still continue to spam\n> them?\n\n Yes.\n\n\n\t/Tony\n-- \n# Per scientiam ad libertatem! // Through knowledge towards freedom! #\n# Genom kunskap mot frihet! =*= (c) 1999-2002 tony@svanstrom.com =*= #\n\n perl -e'print$_{$_} for sort%_=`lynx -dump svanstrom.com/t`'\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"\nThis may be a little off topic but thought people here would have a better\nresponse to this elsewhere.\n\nI have setup two MX records (mail and bmail) for my mail server. The one I\ngave a 10 (bmail) the other a 20 (mail).\n\nbmail(10) I gave a 10 because I want all mail to go through this server to\nbe scanned for SPAM and viruses and then relayed to the mail(20) server for\ndelivery.\n\nAs I understand it, DNS A records are used in a rotating fashion for load\nbalancing, but DNS MX records are used in order or prority, meaning the 10\nbefore the 20 and only 20 if the 10 isn't available.\n\nBut only some of the mail is actually being scanned which leads me to\nbelieve that not all of the mail is actually hitting that box and the 10\nnever goes down. Why? Have I got something confused here?\n\nThanks,\nV\n------- End of Forwarded Message -------\n\n\n\n\n-- \nThis message has been scanned for viruses and\ndangerous content by MailScanner at comp-wiz.com,\nand is believed to be clean.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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["On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 01:33:43PM -0500, vernon wrote:\n> As I understand it, DNS A records are used in a rotating fashion for load\n> balancing, but DNS MX records are used in order or prority, meaning the 10\n> before the 20 and only 20 if the 10 isn't available.\n\nThat's the theory, yes.\n\n> But only some of the mail is actually being scanned which leads me to\n> believe that not all of the mail is actually hitting that box and the 10\n> never goes down. Why? Have I got something confused here?\n\nNo, but either due to some technical glitch, or downright just wanting\nto do so, people send to the secondary. It's a semi-usual spammer trick\nactually to bypass the main server and send directly to a secondary\nsince it will either have less filtering, or be \"trusted\", or ...\n\nMX records in the mail world are all explained in RFC 2821, section 5:\n\n[...]\n Multiple MX records contain a preference indication that MUST be used\n in sorting (see below). Lower numbers are more preferred than higher\n ones. If there are multiple destinations with the same preference\n and there is no clear reason to favor one (e.g., by recognition of an\n easily-reached address), then the sender-SMTP MUST randomize them to\n spread the load across multiple mail exchangers for a specific\n organization.\n[...]\n If it determines that it should relay the message without rewriting\n the address, it MUST sort the MX records to determine candidates for\n delivery. The records are first ordered by preference, with the\n lowest-numbered records being most preferred. The relay host MUST\n then inspect the list for any of the names or addresses by which it\n might be known in mail transactions. If a matching record is found,\n all records at that preference level and higher-numbered ones MUST be\n discarded from consideration. If there are no records left at that\n point, it is an error condition, and the message MUST be returned as\n undeliverable. If records do remain, they SHOULD be tried, best\n preference first, as described above.\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"Now let's say I like sheep... And now let's say I take the sheep to a \n Christmas party...\" - Bob Golub\n", "…"]
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"On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 14:33, vernon wrote:\n> \n> But only some of the mail is actually being scanned which leads me to\n> believe that not all of the mail is actually hitting that box and the 10\n> never goes down. Why? Have I got something confused here?\n> \nSending mail directly to a backup mail server in the hopes that it has\nless stringent spam scanning is a common spammer trick.\n\n-- \nJason Kohles jkohles@redhat.com\nSenior Engineer Red Hat Professional Consulting\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"\n> Or you could let me write one for you? Mind you ...... I know an\n> awful lot about you! ;-))\n\nOh, that could be interesting!\n\n>\n> Yes, I like that starlet look, but I think you should come out from\n> behind that bike too and let us see what you are wearing. looks\n> pretty innerestin'\n\nThat bike is all that's between me and my modesty. The other photos are not\nfor public consumption. :-)\n\n> Fel\n\nHelen of Troy\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nSell a Home for Top $\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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["On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 04:27:47PM +0100, Justin Mason wrote:\n> It's probably that razor needs to be \"razor-register\"'d for each user.\n> Try creating a world-writable \"home dir\" for Razor and DCC et al to store\n> their files in; that way spamd will share the razor server info etc.\n> between all users.\n\nuh, no, you don't want to make it world-writable. world-readable.\n\n> Then use \"spamd -H /path/to/world/writeable/dir\" .\n\nJust remember that the .razor and whatever DCC uses needs to be\nworld-readable as well. The solution is then to make a world-writable\nlog file for at least Razor. I like symlinking /dev/null myself.\n\n> IMO this is more efficient than using \"spamd -H\", which will use each\n> user's own home dir for this data, but it's a matter of opinion ;)\n\nefficient? probably (depends on the user base), but it also takes\nthe control away from the user (which may or may not be a good thing,\ndepending again on the user base...)\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"What's funny? I'd like to know. Send me some E-Mail.\" - Prof. Farr\n", "…"]
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"\nI have searched the list but did not find any info on this. \n\nHow do I setup multiple spamd machines so that spamc load balances - or \nanything similar? \n\nDuane.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"I'm getting these messages and I'm not sure what they mean. Can anyone clear \nthis up for me? Thanks.\n\nSep 15 11:45:09 linux mailscanner[6128]: RBL Check ORDB-RBL timed out and \nwas killed, consecutive failure 3 of 7\nSep 15 11:45:24 linux mailscanner[6128]: SpamAssassin timed out and was \nkilled\n\n\n-- \nThis message has been scanned for viruses and\ndangerous content by MailScanner at comp-wiz.com,\nand is believed to be clean.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 the voices made Marc Perkel write:\n\n> Right now we have one spam status flag indicating that a message is or\n> is not spam. The idea being that the end user perhaps make a rule that\n> would move the spam flagged messages into a spam folder and thus gain\n> some time by presorting messages into to piles.\n\n If you (people) don't know enough to filter on the actual score they've got\nthe \"stars\", which will give them more than enough levers, if they want it.\n\n\n\t/Tony\n-- \n# Per scientiam ad libertatem! // Through knowledge towards freedom! #\n# Genom kunskap mot frihet! =*= (c) 1999-2002 tony@svanstrom.com =*= #\n\n perl -e'print$_{$_} for sort%_=`lynx -dump svanstrom.com/t`'\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"Tony L. Svanstrom wrote:\n\n>On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 the voices made Marc Perkel write:\n>\n>>Right now we have one spam status flag indicating that a message is or\n>>is not spam. The idea being that the end user perhaps make a rule that\n>>would move the spam flagged messages into a spam folder and thus gain\n>>some time by presorting messages into to piles.\n>>\n>\n> If you (people) don't know enough to filter on the actual score they've got\n>the \"stars\", which will give them more than enough levers, if they want it.\n>\n>\n>\t/Tony\n>\nSure - we developers know that - but what I'm talking about is making it \neasier for END USERS to figure out.\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"Has anyone noticed a drop in razor-check performance over the past week?\nI disabled the razorchecks in Spamassassin and my queues start to clean\nout again.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"Can anybody point me to a project/FAQ similar to this:?\n\n1. Perl script fetches POP mail from a distant server\n2. mail is fed to SA, running as a standalone module in my user account\n3. SA spits out results back to perl script.\n4. Script deletes offending mail.\n\nI don't have root access. I don't need a MTA.\n\n=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0\nChris Fortune\nFortune's Web Computer Services\nNelson, BC, Canada\nV1L 2W3\n\nph#: 250 505-5012\nemail: cfortune@telus.net\nwebsite: http://cfortune.kics.bc.ca/\n\n=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nSponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts on Hammer Technology! \nOpen Source & Linux Developers, register now for the AMD Developer \nSymposium. Code: EX8664 http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 00:05, Matthias Saou wrote:\n\n> It's 100% untested, although the build should be ok. The new menu was\n> added, but some configuration files may be better with new or different\n> defaults.\n> \n> Feedback is very welcome!\n\nLooks good to me, just installed it, and ran a local scan, everything\nworked smoothly. Thanks a bunch!\n\n-- \n\\/ille Skyttä\nville.skytta at iki.fi\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Justin Mason <jm@jmason.org> writes:\n\n> hmm. also I think I've found some cases where it's hitting on fetchmail\n> Received hdrs. that's bad. so it could be fixed....\n\nfetchmail adds Received headers? That seems wrong. I'll open a bug\nto investigate. Can you attach some examples?\n\n> yeah, will do -- somehow. pity the bugzilla doesn't allow email\n> submissions...\n\nAgreed. At least you can add information with email.\n\n- Dan\n\n\n"
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"On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Justin Mason wrote:\n\n> Simon Matthews said:\n> \n> > Procmail 3.21 is reliable as long as none of the recipies fails. I was \n> > hoping to resolve the triplets.txt problem and thus avoid the procmail \n> > \"^rom\" problem. \n> \n> I doubt it's related, actually -- the \"triplets\" stuff is in a totally\n> unrelated area of code.\n\nThe procmail bug happens when the filter program does something that \nprocmail doesn't expect. Exactly what that something is, hasn't been\nconfirmed by anyone on the procmail list. It might be exiting with a\nnonzero status, or it might be producing output on the standard error,\nor it might be something else entirely.\n\nSo Simon is attempting to get SA to run flawlessly, because then it can't\ntickle the procmail bug. This isn't a fix, it's a band-aid, but because\nhe apparently doesn't have the option of installing a newer procmail ...\n\n\n"
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"jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:\n\n> Folks who've been hacking on the DNSBLs: would it be worthwhile commenting\n> this in HEAD, seeing as it only gets .77 anyway?\n> \n> Sounds like the (a) broken server and (b) low hitrate combine to make it\n> not-so-useful IMO.\n\nNo, in my opinion, it's purely a bug in SA (or the libraries we use,\nwhich is the same thing) that we don't handle outages of network\nservices better.\n\nThe rule is useful and it does help reduce spam, we should keep it. I\nhave a feeling the DNSBL rules will cluster a bit more heavily around\nthe 1.0 to 2.0 range once we start using the new GA on them.\n\nAlso, 0.77 was a slightly conservative number. Since I didn't have\nreal-time data, I typically used the lower or median number of different\nperiods (most recent month, two months, six months), depending on the\ntrend of the period data (better performance for recent messages ->\nfavor recent scores, worse performance for recent messages -> favor\nlowest scores, never pick the highest number unless the rule was very\naccurate and the highest number was for the most recent data).\n\nDan\n\n\n"
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"\nMatt Kettler said:\n> Ok, first, the important stuff. Happy birthday Justin (a lil late, but\n> oh well)\n\ncheers!\n\n> a 13% miss ratio on the spam corpus at 5.0 seems awfully high, although \n> that nice low FP percentage is quite nice, as is the narrow-in of average \n> FP/FN scores compared to 2.40.\n\nAs Dan said -- it's a hard corpus, made harder without the spamtrap data.\n\nAlso -- and this is an important point -- those measurements can't be\ndirectly compared, because I changed the methodology. In 2.40 the scores\nwere evolved on the entire corpus, then evaluated using that corpus; ie.\nthere was no \"blind\" testing, and the scores could overfit and still\nprovide good statistics.\n\nIn 2.42, they're evaluated \"blind\", on a totally unseen set of messages,\nso those figures would be a lot more accurate for real-world use.\n\n--j.\n\n"
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">>>>> \"v\" == vernon <vernon@b2unow.com> writes:\n\nv> Some of my \"Security Violations\" and \"Unusual System Events\" are being \nv> tagged as SPAM by SpamAssassin. How do I get SA to ignore these messages?\n\nwhitelists. you *really* have to white list any message source that\ndiscusses or is used to report spam, else the reports will be marked\nas spam, given that they have the spam indicators in them, usually...\n\nThis is the *only* whitelisting I use.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"> Yes, I think some others, (mgm?) have spamtrap data in there too.\n>\n\nMy corpus is about 50% spamtrap spam at any given time. Let me know if I\nshould leave that out next time, I do keep it separate. My spamtraps are\npretty clean of viruses and bounce messages most of the time.\n\n--\nMichael Moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/\n\"Lack of money is no obstacle. Lack of an idea is an obstacle.\" --Ken Hakuta\n\n\n"
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"> > Would someone please enlighten me on dependencies / pre-requisites\n> > for installation in FreeBSD. The 'official' documentation isn't\nparticularly\n> > explicit about this stuff .... eg 'procmail' is mentioned but without\nsaying\n> > whether or not its essential, & no info provided on whether GNUmake is\n> > required or if standard BSD 'make' is OK.\n>\n> I thought we were quite good about it, in the README file!\n>\n> procmail is essential *if* you're using (a) SpamAssassin for local\n> delivery, (b) not using a milter, and (c) not using a Mail::Audit\n> script instead. So probably yes.\n>\n> BSD make is OK, if Perl generally uses it to build Perl modules.\n> SpamAssassin is just anotehr Perl module in that respect.\n>\nBack to this stuff again ..... searched high & low but definitely nothing\non this system even vaguely resembling a README file for spamassassin.\nI have procmail installed but having major problems comprehending the\nsetup .... would appreciate info on any 'simple english' HOWTo\n\n\n"
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"Just the headlines and URLs so I don't bore y'all too much....\n\nhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,805900,00.html\n\nAs a US Republican, I reject George Bush's illegal and\nunconstitutional plan to attack Iraq - Scott Ritter\n\n\nhttp://jang.com.pk/thenews/oct2002-daily/07-10-2002/world/w9.htm\n\nSaudi Arabia may start fingerprinting Americans\n\n\n<http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1033848737242>\n\nBlair warned war to oust Saddam 'illegal'\n\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nHome Selling? Try Us!\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=828\n\njm@jmason.org changed:\n\n What |Removed |Added\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED\n Resolution| |FIXED\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2002-09-21 16:35 -------\nOK, this should now be considered fixed, I should think.\n\n Domain Name: SPAMASSASSIN.ORG\n Name Server: NS.PEREGRINEHW.COM\n Name Server: NS1.RTS.COM.AU\n Name Server: NS2.RTS.COM.AU\n Name Server: NS3.RTS.COM.AU\n Name Server: FAMILY.ZAWODNY.COM\n\netc.\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1008\n\njm@jmason.org changed:\n\n What |Removed |Added\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Status|NEW |RESOLVED\n Resolution| |INVALID\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2002-09-21 16:36 -------\nHi David --\n\nI'm afraid this bug-tracking system is only used for the open-source\nSpamAssassin (the UNIX one ;). You need to talk to somebody\nat deersoft.com instead.\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=886\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2002-09-21 16:37 -------\nI'd prefer to wait and see if spammers do anything about it. my\nguess is they will not, as it'd mean modifying their spamware to\nsend >1 msg per recipient.\n\nI vote WONTFIX as a result ;)\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1012\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu 2002-09-21 16:41 -------\nI like this idea, but from my reading - part of my dissertation research -\non GAs (or, in this case, more precisely \"Evolutionary Programming\", since\nthe parameters are non-binary and the major operator is mutation, not\ncrossover), you do need to keep in mind that the more interactions there are\nbetween different variables, the better-tweaked the GA/EA will need to be,\nespecially to avoid local optima (which may have been the problem with the\nsuspiciously-high \"anti-ratware\" USER_AGENT scores). From past results,\nwhat's needed are one or more of the below:\n A. Determine mutational parameters by adapted-scores themselves,\n with variation on a per-original score basis; ideally, allow\n for having \"correlated\" mutations - in other words, have a\n mechanism in place for trying out changes to a bunch of scores at\n once, with them all moving about the same amount (albeit possibly\n in different directions) - one means to do this is found in the\n \"Evolutionary Strategies\" of Schwefel;\n B. Adapt the probability of a mutation taking place depending on how\n well previous mutation tries have done - if more than about a\n fifth of the new \"individuals\" are doing about as well as, or\n better than, the parental generation, then mutate more\n parameters; if less than a fifth of them are doing about as well\n as, or better than, the parental generation, then mutate less\n parameters.\n\n -Allen\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"\n\"Mike Bostock\" said:\n\n> Received: from tracking2 (tracking2.roving.com [10.20.40.142])\n> \tby ccm01.roving.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4696633ED4\n> \tfor <mike@mydomain.co.uk>; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:57:03 -0400 (EDT)\n> X-Mailer: Roving Constant Contact\n> 5.0.Patch121c.P121C_SchedEnhancement_09_05_02\n> (http://www.constantcontact.com)\n> \n> Is worthy of attention and a rule - if you go to their web site it\n> would appear that they are in the business of email mass marketing. \n> Unfortunately their mailing to me got through Spamassassin :-(\n\nInteresting -- I haven't seen anything from these guys in about a year,\nbut looking at your hdr they're still doing it.\n\nOK, come up with an X-Mailer rule that hits your mails, and we'll put it\nin testing...\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"\nNo I was just a little confused because I'm running procmail on a gateway\nand sits between the external sendmail box and internal exchange bridgehead\nserver. So there isn't any delivery to the local system.\n\nThe only email it gets is inbound at the moment and we're looking to get rid\nof complication and go back to two boxes. I did a test which looked like\nyou guys are right about procmail, but testing is very limited due to the\nconfig I currently have. It's just confusing when set up as a gateway.\n\n-Jason\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Stephane Lentz [mailto:Stephane.Lentz@ansf.alcatel.fr]\nSent: Monday, September 23, 2002 2:50 PM\nTo: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net\nSubject: Re: [SAtalk] separate inbound and outbound\n\n\nOn Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 02:26:34PM -0700, Jason Qualkenbush wrote:\n> \n> Is there is way to separate inbound and outbound email so that I only\ncheck\n> for spam on inbound mail and ignore the outbound?\n> \n> I'm using Sendmail and running procmail on the gateway to call\nspamassassin.\n> I know it more of a sendmail question, but my google searches have only\n> turned up people trying to log all inbound and outbound email.\n> \nUsing procmail, SpamAssassin doesn't get called for outgoing email\n(messages sent to other machines). \nProcmail=Local Delivery Agent => inbound traffic to LOCAL machine.\n\nSL/\n---\nStephane Lentz / Alcanet International - Internet Services\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:\n\n> except for 1 thing: defanged MIME messages. that's a big problem.\n> but if you didn't just *remove* the headers and instead reverted\n> back to the X-Spam-Prev versions, it'd more-or-less work.\n> \n> (BTW fixed the downloads page ;)\n\n&check now un-defangs MIME -- it was screwing up some of my mass-check\nresults (where SA-markup was present, yes).\n\nIf there ever was a warning about SA-markup in mass-check, it never\nworked for me.\n\nDan\n\n\n"
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"\nUsing Razor2 via SpamAssasin.\n\nSystem is Solaris 2.7, with qmail. Spamassassin run via user's procmail.\nAll users who use SA have run razor-register.\n\nRazor2 is failing, and I can't find anything in the limited docs or on \ngoogle on it,\nand I'm hoping someone can help.\n\nThe error (which doesn't prevent SA from working) is:\n\nOct 2 06:38:22 sancho2 qmail: 1033565902.186041 delivery 4588: success: \nrazor2_check_skipped:_Bad_file_number_Can't_locate_object_m\nethod_\"new\"_via_package_\"Razor2::Client::Agent\"_(perhaps_you_forgot_to_load_\"Razor2::Client::Agent\"?)_at_/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_p\nerl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm_line_374./did_0+0+1/\n\nLooking at Dns.pm doesn't really help me, and Razor2::Client::Agent appears \nto be in the right place,\nin /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Razor2/Client.\n\nIdeas?\n\n...Chris\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"On Sep 25, 7:35pm, Daniel Quinlan wrote:\n> Allen Smith <easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu> writes:\n> \n> > Well, I have been doing a bit of fiddling with the GA. I don't have\n> > a _large_ corpus practically available to me (or processable within\n> > reasonable processor time - I can justify the GA fiddling part as\n> > being part of my research, but not the mail processing...), so in\n> > order to test out my changes someone needs to send me a copy of the\n> > \"tmp/scores.h\" and \"tmp/tests.h\" that get generated prior to the GA\n> > going into action.\n> \n> Why not start with mass-check corpus results? It's much easier to get\n> those\n\nAh. As in getting a directory listing of the corpus server and doing some\ndownloads? OK, done.\n\n> and you can create your own tmp/scores.h and tmp/tests.h.\n\nGood point. Will report back on my results.\n\n\t-Allen\n\n-- \nAllen Smith\t\t\thttp://cesario.rutgers.edu/easmith/\nSeptember 11, 2001\t\tA Day That Shall Live In Infamy II\n\"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary\nsafety deserve neither liberty nor safety.\" - Benjamin Franklin\n\n\n"
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"\nSpamTalk said:\n> Probably better than the \"spam phrases\" approach would be the database\n> approach as currently used for white/black listing.\n> Any way to tie that to an XML retrieval from a list of central repositories?\n> Does mySQL do replication? A properly done XML would let us eyeball the list\n> as well as use it to keep the database up to date.\n> Another idea: could we synthesize an RBL so that\n> http://www.spammer.com/spam/web/bug/ becomes spam.web.bug.x.www.spammer.com\n> for a reverse lookup? It is going to get tricky, how to specify a randomized\n> intermediate directory?\n\nA good plan, needs an implementation though: \n\n http://bl.reynolds.net.au/ksi/email/\n\nhmm. seems down to me. Basically it's a plan to store hash sums of\nURLs/phone numbers found in spam in a DNSBL, for apps like SpamAssassin to\nlook up. A little like spamcop's \"spamvertized URL\" list...\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: DEDICATED SERVERS only $89!\nLinux or FreeBSD, FREE setup, FAST network. Get your own server \ntoday at http://www.ServePath.com/indexfm.htm\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:\n\n> Yes -- 50% of the entire set for training and 50% for evaluation.\n\nOnce you've settled on the final method for any one release, why not\nuse 100% of the data for a final run?\n \nDan\n\n\n"
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"Justin Mason wrote:\n\n>> Interestingly, some of these seem (apparently) to be encrypted versions of\n>> the recipient email address. To see this, ROT13 yr address and grep your\n>> spam archive. There'll be at least 1 hit.\n\nTheo Van Dinter <felicity@kluge.net> writes:\n\n> Hmmm. I'm surprised at these results, especially since I should be\n> seeing some false positives... Not a lot of matches though. :(\n\nStill worthwhile -- 1.257% is not that bad. :-)\n\nMy results:\n\n OVERALL% SPAM% NONSPAM% S/O RANK SCORE NAME\n 11774 4079 7695 0.35 0.00 0.00 (all messages)\n 100.000 34.644 65.356 0.35 0.00 0.00 (all messages as %)\n 0.195 0.564 0.000 1.00 0.75 1.00 T_ROT13_EMAIL_3\n 0.161 0.466 0.000 1.00 0.73 1.00 T_ROT13_EMAIL_2\n 0.161 0.466 0.000 1.00 0.73 1.00 T_ROT13_EMAIL\n\nThe interesting thing is that these hits all seem to be rot13 versions\nof the To: address. If we ever start getting FPs (or if anyone is\nworried), we could make it an eval test for rot13 of the To: address\n(turning non-word characters into \".\" characters in the regular\nexpression).\n\nAt the same time, it might be worth testing for username in HTML\ncomments. I found some <!--quinlan--> types in HTML comments, but I\nhaven't seen enough hits so far to bother (however, I did add a really\ngood test for email addresses in comments).\n\nDan\n\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/lib/Mail\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv4019/lib/Mail\n\nModified Files:\n Tag: b2_4_0\n\tSpamAssassin.pm \nLog Message:\nfixed bug 1033: -R and -W were not respecting auto_whitelist_path\n\nIndex: SpamAssassin.pm\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm,v\nretrieving revision 1.115.2.11\nretrieving revision 1.115.2.12\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.115.2.11 -r1.115.2.12\n--- SpamAssassin.pm\t24 Sep 2002 18:51:37 -0000\t1.115.2.11\n+++ SpamAssassin.pm\t2 Oct 2002 13:19:28 -0000\t1.115.2.12\n@@ -696,7 +696,13 @@\n }\n \n ###########################################################################\n-# non-public methods.\n+\n+=item $f->init ($use_user_prefs)\n+\n+Read and parse the current configuration. C<$use_user_prefs> can\n+be C<0> (do not read user preferences) or C<1> (do).\n+\n+=cut\n \n sub init {\n my ($self, $use_user_pref) = @_;\n@@ -767,6 +773,9 @@\n \n # TODO -- open DNS cache etc. if necessary\n }\n+\n+###########################################################################\n+# non-public methods.\n \n sub read_cf {\n my ($self, $path, $desc) = @_;\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv4019/t\n\nModified Files:\n Tag: b2_4_0\n\tdb_based_whitelist.t db_based_whitelist_ips.t \nLog Message:\nfixed bug 1033: -R and -W were not respecting auto_whitelist_path\n\nIndex: db_based_whitelist.t\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t/db_based_whitelist.t,v\nretrieving revision 1.6.4.1\nretrieving revision 1.6.4.2\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.6.4.1 -r1.6.4.2\n--- db_based_whitelist.t\t24 Sep 2002 18:51:38 -0000\t1.6.4.1\n+++ db_based_whitelist.t\t2 Oct 2002 13:19:28 -0000\t1.6.4.2\n@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@\n \n use lib '.'; use lib 't';\n use SATest; sa_t_init(\"db_based_whitelist\");\n-use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 3 };\n+use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 8 };\n \n # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \n@@ -16,17 +16,17 @@\n %patterns = %is_nonspam_patterns;\n $scr_test_args = \"-M Mail::SpamAssassin::DBBasedAddrList\";\n \n-sarun (\"--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n \n # 3 times, to get into the whitelist:\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n \n # Now check\n ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n ok_all_patterns();\n \n %patterns = %is_spam_patterns;\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/spam/004\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/spam/004\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n ok_all_patterns();\n\nIndex: db_based_whitelist_ips.t\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t/db_based_whitelist_ips.t,v\nretrieving revision 1.1.2.1\nretrieving revision 1.1.2.2\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.1.2.1 -r1.1.2.2\n--- db_based_whitelist_ips.t\t24 Sep 2002 18:51:38 -0000\t1.1.2.1\n+++ db_based_whitelist_ips.t\t2 Oct 2002 13:19:29 -0000\t1.1.2.2\n@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@\n \n use lib '.'; use lib 't';\n use SATest; sa_t_init(\"db_based_whitelist_ips\");\n-use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 3 };\n+use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 8 };\n \n # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \n@@ -15,18 +15,18 @@\n \n %patterns = %is_nonspam_patterns;\n \n-sarun (\"--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n \n # 3 times, to get into the whitelist:\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n \n # Now check\n ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n ok_all_patterns();\n \n %patterns = %is_spam_patterns;\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/spam/007\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/spam/007\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n ok_all_patterns();\n \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv4429\n\nModified Files:\n\tspamassassin.raw \nLog Message:\nfixed bug 1033: -R and -W were not respecting auto_whitelist_path\n\nIndex: spamassassin.raw\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/spamassassin.raw,v\nretrieving revision 1.76\nretrieving revision 1.77\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.76 -r1.77\n--- spamassassin.raw\t26 Sep 2002 17:14:59 -0000\t1.76\n+++ spamassassin.raw\t2 Oct 2002 13:20:32 -0000\t1.77\n@@ -218,6 +218,9 @@\n if ($@) { warn $@; }\n \n if ($doing_whitelist_operation) {\n+ # read the config!\n+ $spamtest->init (1);\n+\n if ($opt{'add-to-whitelist'}) {\n $spamtest->add_all_addresses_to_whitelist ($mail);\n } elsif ($opt{'remove-from-whitelist'}) {\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n\n"
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"Even better:\n\nhttp://www.ridiculopathy.com/news_detail.php?id=668\n\nWhite House: President's \"War Boner\" Must Be Satisfied\n\n...\"The President can't seem to hide his excitement about a possible\nmilitary conflict with Iraq. At a recent function honoring America's\nwar widows, Bush sported a visible erection when his speech turned to\nthe subject of the Middle East.\n\n'Believe me when I say this. With or without the help of other\nnations, with or without UN approval, we will penetrate Iraq's\nborders. With overwhelming force, we will pound Iraq over and over\nagain without ceasing. And, once its leaders concede defeat, we will\nseed Iraq with American-style democracy.'\n\nAides say the podium was scrubbed down thoroughly after the event with\na special cleanser/biocide not used since the Clinton\nadministration.\".....\n\n\n\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/rules\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv4429/rules\n\nModified Files:\n\t50_scores.cf 60_whitelist.cf \nLog Message:\nfixed bug 1033: -R and -W were not respecting auto_whitelist_path\n\nIndex: 50_scores.cf\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/rules/50_scores.cf,v\nretrieving revision 1.226\nretrieving revision 1.227\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.226 -r1.227\n--- 50_scores.cf\t1 Oct 2002 09:53:43 -0000\t1.226\n+++ 50_scores.cf\t2 Oct 2002 13:20:32 -0000\t1.227\n@@ -611,7 +611,7 @@\n score PORN_GALLERIES 1.000\n score RATWARE_LC_OUTLOOK 1.000\n score SHORT_RECEIVED_LINE 4.300\n-score SAFEGUARD_NOTICE -3.300\n+score SAFEGUARD_NOTICE 3.300\n score MAILMAN_CONFIRM -1.000\n score SIGNIFICANT 1.000\n score RATWARE_DIFFOND 2.200\n\nIndex: 60_whitelist.cf\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/rules/60_whitelist.cf,v\nretrieving revision 1.31\nretrieving revision 1.32\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.31 -r1.32\n--- 60_whitelist.cf\t11 Sep 2002 21:31:35 -0000\t1.31\n+++ 60_whitelist.cf\t2 Oct 2002 13:20:33 -0000\t1.32\n@@ -65,3 +65,4 @@\n \n # Friends re-united (popular UK old-school-network)\n whitelist_from_rcvd *@friendsreunited.co.uk friendsreunited.co.uk\n+\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv4429/t\n\nModified Files:\n\tdb_based_whitelist.t db_based_whitelist_ips.t \nLog Message:\nfixed bug 1033: -R and -W were not respecting auto_whitelist_path\n\nIndex: db_based_whitelist.t\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t/db_based_whitelist.t,v\nretrieving revision 1.7\nretrieving revision 1.8\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.7 -r1.8\n--- db_based_whitelist.t\t26 Sep 2002 17:15:04 -0000\t1.7\n+++ db_based_whitelist.t\t2 Oct 2002 13:20:33 -0000\t1.8\n@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@\n \n use lib '.'; use lib 't';\n use SATest; sa_t_init(\"db_based_whitelist\");\n-use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 3 };\n+use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 8 };\n \n # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \n@@ -16,17 +16,17 @@\n %patterns = %is_nonspam_patterns;\n $scr_test_args = \"-M Mail::SpamAssassin::DBBasedAddrList\";\n \n-sarun (\"--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n \n # 3 times, to get into the whitelist:\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n \n # Now check\n ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n ok_all_patterns();\n \n %patterns = %is_spam_patterns;\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/spam/004\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/spam/004\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n ok_all_patterns();\n\nIndex: db_based_whitelist_ips.t\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t/db_based_whitelist_ips.t,v\nretrieving revision 1.2\nretrieving revision 1.3\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.2 -r1.3\n--- db_based_whitelist_ips.t\t26 Sep 2002 17:15:04 -0000\t1.2\n+++ db_based_whitelist_ips.t\t2 Oct 2002 13:20:33 -0000\t1.3\n@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@\n \n use lib '.'; use lib 't';\n use SATest; sa_t_init(\"db_based_whitelist_ips\");\n-use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 3 };\n+use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 8 };\n \n # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \n@@ -15,18 +15,18 @@\n \n %patterns = %is_nonspam_patterns;\n \n-sarun (\"--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n \n # 3 times, to get into the whitelist:\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n \n # Now check\n ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/nice/002\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n ok_all_patterns();\n \n %patterns = %is_spam_patterns;\n-sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/spam/007\", \\&patterns_run_cb);\n+ok (sarun (\"-L -a -t < data/spam/007\", \\&patterns_run_cb));\n ok_all_patterns();\n \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n\n"
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"\nMalte S. Stretz said:\n> 1046 is fixed. But what about\n> 1011 (add a notice about IRIX and -m to the docs),\n> 1031 (cygwin's EXE_EXT),\n> 1043 (a cosmetic but rather disturbing one ;-),\n\nall now fixed!\n\n> 1004 (TO_MALFORMED borken),\n\nWONTFIX ;)\n\n> 1006 (packaging related)?\n\neh, will leave this for 2.50. ;)\n\nOK, if there's nothing moderately serious shown up tonight, I'll release\nit tomorrow AM (GMT).\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"> eh? any reason why? wasn't causing any trouble for me, and\n> seems like a good idea.\n\nBecause every time someone submitted a bug, they'd get a response\nsaying \"Message is held for moderator because of implicit message\ndestination\" or something like that. It annoyed users, it annoyed me,\nand Justin, you never actually got around to accepting the messages :-)\n\n-- \nDuncan Findlay\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1006\n\njm@jmason.org changed:\n\n What |Removed |Added\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Status|NEW |ASSIGNED\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2002-10-03 13:29 -------\n1. Use of $Config is gradually being removed, thankfully. I don't want\nto see any of that stuff in there if it acn be avoided, as different\nperl versions jsut vary so much in that stuff.\n\n2. perl has no concept of where the rules could be -- unless they're in\nthe perl libdir (/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.x.x/foo). Perl does not\nknow about the existence of /usr/share or /etc. Used to use /usr/lib/perl5\nfor storing rules, and it was actually *much worse* than it is now. So\nwe need an out-of-band way to tell SA where to find this stuff. that's\nthe problem!\n\n3. try \"perl Makefile.PL < /dev/null\" to allow bots to build it.\n\nI think I might be missing some details of what you're peeved about,\nthough... could you elaborate specifically?\n\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1046\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From spamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de 2002-10-03 13:57 -------\n> I've thought about this and PM_FILTER needs to die. I've now tried \n> multiple ways to make it just transparently work on 5.00503 and failed. \n> If anyone has any bright ideas please jump in. \n> \n> You see anyone upgrading from the CPAN shell will get a failure on the line: \n> \n> use ExtUtils::MakeMaker 5.45; \n \nQuite some modules from CPAN do have a line like this nowadays (I think or \nread so somewhere, respectively). And the Perl error message is very clear: \n\"ExtUtils::MakeMaker version 5.45 required--this is only version 5.4302 at \nMakefile.PL line 2.\" \n \n> Because it never gets chance to reach a \"WriteMakefile\" line with a \n> PREREQ_PM => { ExtUtils::MakeMaker => 5.45 } option. So the CPAN shell \n> can't automatically upgrade this module. I cannot think of any way \n> around this. \n \nI could think of a solution: We could remove the \"use\" line and add the \nversion to PREREQ_PM. After WriteMakefile() we could add the lines \n require ExtUtils::MakeMaker; \n ExtUtils::MakeMaker->VERSION(5.45); \nto do per hand what 'use ExtUtils::MakeMaker 5.45' does automagically; `perl \nMakefile.PL` will die with a \"Uncaught exception from user code: \nExtUtils::MakeMaker version 5.45 required--this is only version 5.4302 at \nMakefile.PL line 103.\" there but we've got a Makefile. But I don't know if \nCPAN will run the make anyway... \n \n> To add insult to injury, the PM_FILTER part gets run during pm_to_blib, \n> which would be fine, except ExtUtils::MakeMaker doesn't let you write a \n> MY::pm_to_blib - it's non-overridable! So even though we could \n> potentially copy the 5.45 ExtUtils::Install::pm_to_blib code somewhere \n> into the spamassassin codebase (I tried that first), we can't cause the \n> Makefile to call our code :-( \n \nWe could call the preprocessor on install time. That's not a very clean \napproach but could work. \n \nWe can also overwrite pm_to_blib in the Makefile directly per postamble. We \nalready have a useless line \"pm_to_blib: spamassassin doc/.made\" there. Adding \nsome commands in this section gives some make warnings (\"Makefile:933: \nwarning: overriding commands for target `pm_to_blib' Makefile:877: warning: \nignoring old commands for target `pm_to_blib'\") but does work. Not a very good \nsolution either. \n \n> So I'm *strongly* against the current use of ExtUtils::MakeMaker 5.45 \n> usage (if this were an Apache project this would be my veto vote), and \n> really hope we can find another way. \n \nThe \"use MakeMaker::...\" error message is IMHO quite clear, so I think it's ok \nto require the user to do a manual update of ExtUtils::MakeMaker before the SA \ninstallation. But that's just my opinion ;-) \n \nI'll ask on makemaker@perl.org for the best solution. They should know. \n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1006\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From spamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de 2002-10-03 13:57 -------\nA solution could be the preprocessor in combination with PM_FILTER -- if we \nget the ExtUtils::MakeMaker versioning stuff right (see bug 1046). \n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"Tom R:\n> http://www.cliktrik.com/people/family/me/0419.jpg\n> \nWhich one's you?\n\nTimC\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=739\n\nspamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de changed:\n\n What |Removed |Added\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Status|NEW |RESOLVED\n Resolution| |WONTFIX\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From spamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de 2002-10-03 14:17 -------\nRelieving Dan ;-) \n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=779\n\nspamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de changed:\n\n What |Removed |Added\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Status|NEW |RESOLVED\n Resolution| |FIXED\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From spamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de 2002-10-03 14:21 -------\nI think INVALID_MSGID does what this rule was supposed to do \n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1052\n\n Summary: bondedsender.com is a scam\n Product: Spamassassin\n Version: unspecified\n Platform: Other\n URL: http://www.bondedsender.com/\n OS/Version: other\n Status: NEW\n Severity: normal\n Priority: P2\n Component: Rules\n AssignedTo: spamassassin-devel@example.sourceforge.net\n ReportedBy: friedman+spamassassin@splode.com\n\n\nThe default score for bondedsender-certified domains is -10, but I do not\nbelieve they should be trusted and encourage you to change the default.\n\n* I have been spammed by their customers.\n* There is no documentation on their website about how I can complain about\n this and have their customers financially penalized for sending me unsolicited\n mail.\n* What proof do any of us have that they really even do anything about it?\n Their contract is with their customers, not with us.\n\nThis is a scam! Don't trust them!\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1053\n\n Summary: IMG tag based rules\n Product: Spamassassin\n Version: unspecified\n Platform: Other\n OS/Version: other\n Status: NEW\n Severity: enhancement\n Priority: P2\n Component: Eval Tests\n AssignedTo: spamassassin-devel@example.sourceforge.net\n ReportedBy: matt@nightrealms.com\n\n\nInspired by complaints about all-image or mostly-image spam that's\ngetting by SA, I've cooked up three sets of rules that analyze the use\nof IMG tags in HTML: one that looks at the total area of all of the\nimages in the message (T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA*), one that looks at the\ntotal number of images in the message (T_HTML_NUM_IMGS*), and one that\nlooks at the longest total run of consecutive images\n(T_HTML_CONSEC_IMG*).\n\n===============\n\nThe total area of all images is rather easy to compute: inside of\nHTML::html_tests(), if an IMG tag has both the width and height\nproperties, then multiply them together and add the result to the\nrunning total.\n\nOVERALL% SPAM% NONSPAM% S/O RANK SCORE NAME\n 15113 4797 10316 0.32 0.00 0.00 (all messages)\n100.000 31.741 68.259 0.32 0.00 0.00 (all messages as %)\n 0.635 2.001 0.000 1.00 0.81 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA14\n 0.417 1.313 0.000 1.00 0.78 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA15\n 0.331 1.042 0.000 1.00 0.76 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA07\n 0.245 0.771 0.000 1.00 0.74 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA10\n 0.238 0.750 0.000 1.00 0.74 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA02\n 0.225 0.709 0.000 1.00 0.74 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA16\n 0.126 0.396 0.000 1.00 0.70 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA18\n 0.119 0.375 0.000 1.00 0.70 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA19\n 0.119 0.375 0.000 1.00 0.70 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA17\n 1.125 3.523 0.010 1.00 0.68 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA12\n 0.741 2.314 0.010 1.00 0.65 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA13\n 1.542 4.732 0.058 0.99 0.58 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA11\n 0.139 0.417 0.010 0.98 0.54 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA08\n 0.483 1.397 0.058 0.96 0.50 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA03\n 0.192 0.500 0.048 0.91 0.44 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA06\n 0.820 1.834 0.349 0.84 0.39 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA04\n 0.946 2.022 0.446 0.82 0.38 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA01\n 0.569 0.896 0.417 0.68 0.32 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA05\n 6.498 0.500 9.287 0.05 0.02 0.01 T_HTML_IMAGE_AREA09\n\nSpam % of all rules with S/0 > 0.90: 20.615%\n\n=============================\n\nThe total number of IMG tags is really easy to do.\n\n 0.648 2.043 0.000 1.00 0.81 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS08\n 0.609 1.918 0.000 1.00 0.80 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS09\n 0.490 1.543 0.000 1.00 0.79 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS10\n 0.119 0.375 0.000 1.00 0.70 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS14\n 0.986 3.064 0.019 0.99 0.63 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS06\n 2.303 7.150 0.048 0.99 0.62 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS11\n 0.033 0.104 0.000 1.00 0.61 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS17\n 0.787 2.439 0.019 0.99 0.61 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS12\n 0.344 1.063 0.010 0.99 0.60 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS13\n 0.020 0.063 0.000 1.00 0.58 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS20\n 0.020 0.063 0.000 1.00 0.58 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS16\n 0.860 2.627 0.039 0.99 0.57 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS05\n 0.754 2.293 0.039 0.98 0.56 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS07\n 0.013 0.042 0.000 1.00 0.55 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS18\n 0.887 2.627 0.078 0.97 0.52 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS04\n 1.356 3.711 0.262 0.93 0.47 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS03\n 0.046 0.125 0.010 0.93 0.46 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS15\n 6.061 10.256 4.110 0.71 0.34 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS01\n 0.040 0.063 0.029 0.68 0.32 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS19\n 6.233 4.753 6.921 0.41 0.22 0.01 T_HTML_NUM_IMGS02\n\nSpam % of all rules with S/O > 0.90: 31.25%\n\n=========================\n\nI figured that spam that is made up of only images is going to only\nhave IMG tags interspersed with table, paragraph and linebreak tags,\nand some whitespace, so there would be a lot of IMG tags with no plain\ntext (non-whitespace) between them. So I defined consecutive IMG tags\nto be ones with no text between them, and looked at the longest run of\nconsecutive IMGs within a message.\n\nThis one seems to do pretty good, because in my non-spam corpus\nthere's only a handful of messages with IMG runs larger than two.\n\n 0.450 1.418 0.000 1.00 0.78 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS06\n 0.232 0.730 0.000 1.00 0.74 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS08\n 0.205 0.646 0.000 1.00 0.73 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS11\n 1.813 5.691 0.010 1.00 0.71 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS02\n 1.019 3.189 0.010 1.00 0.67 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS03\n 0.768 2.397 0.010 1.00 0.66 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS05\n 0.053 0.167 0.000 1.00 0.64 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS12\n 1.006 3.127 0.019 0.99 0.63 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS04\n 0.483 1.501 0.010 0.99 0.62 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS07\n 0.020 0.063 0.000 1.00 0.58 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS13\n 0.020 0.063 0.000 1.00 0.58 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS15\n 1.032 3.148 0.048 0.98 0.57 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS10\n 0.199 0.605 0.010 0.98 0.57 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS09\n 0.013 0.042 0.000 1.00 0.55 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS17\n 0.013 0.042 0.000 1.00 0.55 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS19\n 0.007 0.021 0.000 1.00 0.51 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS14\n 7.080 7.484 6.892 0.52 0.26 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS01\n 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.00 0.00 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS16\n 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.00 0.00 0.01 T_HTML_CONSEC_IMGS18\n\nSpam % of all rules with S/O > 0.90: 22.85%\n\n==========================\n\nNext I'm going to see if there's any meta rules I can make that will\nreduce the FP rate for low S/O rules.\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1054\n\n Summary: Split up FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS\n Product: Spamassassin\n Version: unspecified\n Platform: Other\n OS/Version: other\n Status: NEW\n Severity: enhancement\n Priority: P2\n Component: Rules\n AssignedTo: spamassassin-devel@example.sourceforge.net\n ReportedBy: matt@nightrealms.com\n\n\nThe current FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS triggers on any from where the user name ends\nin two or more digits. I think this should be split up into different\nnumbers of trailing digits, so that rules with different S/O ratios can\nget different scores. So I've made test rules that look from From\nnames that end with two, three, four, or five digitis, and one for six or\nmore digitis; I also put in a test rule that looks for Froms that end in a\nsingle digit, just the sake of completeness.\n\nHere is what I got:\n\nOVERALL% SPAM% NONSPAM% S/O RANK SCORE NAME\n 15113 4797 10316 0.32 0.00 0.00 (all messages)\n100.000 31.741 68.259 0.32 0.00 0.00 (all messages as %)\n 1.244 3.877 0.019 1.00 0.64 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS6\n 0.576 1.459 0.165 0.90 0.43 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS5\n 4.982 10.694 2.326 0.82 0.38 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS4\n 3.434 6.337 2.084 0.75 0.35 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS3\n 8.979 12.383 7.396 0.63 0.30 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS2\n 8.847 6.817 9.791 0.41 0.22 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS1\n\nI should note that I get rather bad S/O's for FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, probably\nbecause so much of my corpus is made up of Yahoo! Groups traffic, which\nseems to have a lot of users that like sticking numbers at the ends of their\nnames. Here is the normal stats for FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS:\n\n 7.024 28.480 2.834 0.91 0.50 0.88 FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS\n\nand my stats:\n\n 19.228 34.793 11.991 0.74 0.35 0.88 FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"Daniel Quinlan wrote:\n\nDQ> jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:\nDQ> \nDQ> > But I think rsync is key; it's very efficient bandwidth-wise, and it\nDQ> > allows you to select which ones you want just as well as wget would.\nDQ> > (Bandwidth is a much bigger issue for me and some other of the europeans\nDQ> > involved, than it would be for you guys ;) IMO it's by far the most\nDQ> > efficient and scriptable way to do this stuff, these days.\nDQ> \nDQ> It must be horrible being a dial-up user in 2002. If we can *automate*\nDQ> rsync submission with good *authentication*, it would be fine with me.\nDQ> The current rsync method is not sufficiently authenticated, though.\n\nI'll take a look at it. I'm sure there's got to be some reasonly easy way to \nhave rsync carry itself over ssh and secure access using ssh keys.\n\nDQ> > I suggest we use the hughes-family.org server for rsyncing, as we do for\nDQ> > the corpus_submit stuff -- in a separate subdirectory, though! -- then\nDQ> > I'll take a look at getting a nightly hit-frequencies-collation system\nDQ> > going.\n\nOk, I'll take a look at it.\n\nC\n\n\n"
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"\nRandy Bush said:\n\n> >> freebsd -stable\n> >> spamassassin 2.41\n> >> spamasassin -r\n> >> results in\n> >> razor2 report failed: No such file or directory Razor2 reporting requires \n> authentication at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Repo\n> rter.pm line 77.\n> >> used to work until upgrade\n> > \n> > using spamd? try the -H switch. \n> \n> no, pipinng the message to \"spamassassin -r\" from within my mail\n> user agent, VM under Emacs.\n\noops, sorry -- didn't notice the \"report\" bit. Yes, you need to register\nfor Razor2 -- \"razor-register\" or \"razor-admin -register\" if I recall\ncorrectly.\n\n--j.\n\n"
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"On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 03:08:16PM +0100, John P. Looney mentioned:\n> This is likely because to get it to boot, like the cobalt, I'm actually\n> passing root=/dev/hda5 to the kernel, not /dev/md0. \n\n Just to solve this...the reason I was booting the box with\nroot=/dev/hda5, not /dev/md0 was because /dev/md0 wasn't booting - it\nwould barf with 'can't find init'.\n\n It turns out that this is because I was populating md0 with tar. Which\nseems to have 'issues' with crosslinked files - for instance, it was\ntrying to make a hard link of glibc.so to hda - and failing. It was only\nas I did it again with a friend present, that he spotted the errors, and\nqueried them. We noticed that the hard linked files just didn't exist on\nthe new rootfs.\n\n When we duplicated the filesystems with dump instead of tar, it worked\nfine, I was able to tell lilo to use root=/dev/md0 and everything worked.\n\n Woohoo.\n\nKate\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n"
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"what takes time and money: noting the amounts of each correction and basing\nthe refund delivery method on the amount. yesh, it's silly to spend $.37 (+\nlabor and materials) for a $.02 refund, but maybe the only alternative right\nnow is to create dichotomies that require even more time and labor - or keep\nthe money (see john hall below). your mailed refund is a function of bulk.\n\nin jax we're on the verge of firing at&t cable for horrible customer service\nand over-charging. what will probably happen: if the amount of overage per\ncustomer is significant (say $30 or more) the refund will go directly to the\ncustomer. If it's less, the combined total amount will go to the city as\nlump sum settlement.\n\nin your case, maybe all the customers could vote on line where they'd like\ntheir lump sum to go. of courese, they'd have to be notified by mail first.\n:-)\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com]On Behalf Of John\nHall\nSent: Monday, October 07, 2002 5:02 PM\nTo: Fork@xent.com\nSubject: RE: The absurdities of life.\n\n\nThey are legally required to do that. I got a similar check because an\ninsurance company didn't pay a claim quickly enough. It might have been\n$.02.\n\nAlthough they spent lots more than $.33 to mail you the check, the\nalternative seems to be to keep the money. Do you really want companies\nto have a financial incentive to over-bill you 'just a bit' so they\ncould keep it? For a company with millions of customers, $.33/customer\nstarts adding up.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n> From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com] On Behalf Of\n> bitbitch@magnesium.net\n\n> So I get a check from Pac Bell today (SBC as they're called now).\n> Turns out, they went to the trouble of printing out, signing, sealing\n> and stamping a check just to refund me for a whole $0.33.\n>\n> They easily spent more than this just getting the materials together.\n> Why the hell do companies bother to do this crap? I mean, isn't there\n> a bottom line in terms of cost effectiveness? I don't think I missed\n> the .33, but I sure as hell would have appreciated lower rates in lieu\n> of being returned pennies.\n>\n> I'm truly stuck on this though. I don't know whether to frame the\n> check, burn it, or cash it in. Maybe I should find a way to return to\n> sender, so they have to spend -more- money on giving me my .33 dues.\n>\n>\n> Does .33 even buy anything anymore? Funny bit of it, is I couldn't\n> even make a phone call these days.\n>\n> *boggled*\n> BB.\n>\n> --\n> Best regards,\n> bitbitch mailto:bitbitch@magnesium.net\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n"
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"\nKenneth Nerhood said:\n\n> I too am seeing very weird things with 2.42 and AWL. I installed a\n> fresh system, and then ran a bunch of test spam through it (all from the\n> same user). All messages should have scored over 15. The AWL kept\n> adjusting them down so that after about 10 message I had a negative\n> score. I'm using spamc/d.\n\nThat's exactly what is intended; the idea is that legit senders who\nhabitually score just > 5, will eventually get out of \"AWL hell\" after\n6-10 messages.\n\nNote that running a single spam through \"spamassassin -a -t\" *will*\neventually whitelist the spammer. but that's why the man page tells you\nnot to do it ;)\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"I have been trying to research via SA mirrors and search engines if a canned\nscript exists giving clients access to their user_prefs options via a\nweb-based CGI interface. Numerous ISPs provide this feature to clients, but\nso far I can find nothing. Our configuration uses Amavis-Postfix and ClamAV\nfor virus filtering and Procmail with SpamAssassin for spam filtering. I\nwould prefer not to have to write a script myself, but will appreciate any\nsuggestions.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"Hello, have you seen and discussed this article and his approach?\n\nThank you\n\nhttp://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html\n-- \"Hell, there are no rules here-- we're trying to accomplish something.\"\n-- Thomas Alva Edison\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"Yes - great minds think alike. But even withput eval rules it would be very \nuseful. It would allow us to respond quickly to spammer's tricks.\n\nTheo Van Dinter wrote:\n> On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 07:27:52AM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:\n> \n>>Has anyone though of the idea of live updates of rules after release? The \n>>idea being that the user can run a cron job once a week or so and get the \n>>new default rule set. This would allow us to react faster to:\n> \n> \n> I suggested this a few months ago. I don't remember the details of what\n> came out of it except that it would only be useful for non-eval rules\n> since those require code changes.\n> \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"\nOn Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 10:24 AM, Justin Mason wrote:\n\n> I plan to\n>\n> 1. figure out the freqs tonight, suggest what tests to drop\n> 2. wait for comments\n> 3. drop tests that nobody cares about tomorrow\n> 4. sed out the dropped tests from the mass-check logs\n\nThis step is unneccesary -- unless you've changed the scripts \nmuch, any test in the logs which aren't in the rules files will \njust be ignored I think. You do seem to have changed the \nlogs-to-c script and removed the bit where you could specify \nimmutable tests at the top -- I took a brief glance through the \ncode and couldn't fully make out how it had changed. I think we \nwant to be able to specify immutable test scores though in there \nsomewhere -- or is that now handled by the tflags stuff? For \nthe last couple releases, any test which occurred infrequently \n(by thumb-in-the-wind subjective criteria) I set to have \nimmutable scores, as well as a handful of other rules.\n\n> 5. kick off the GA\n>\n> BTW I'll be away this weekend at Linuxbierwanderung, so Craig, \n> you might\n> have to run the GA. ;)\n\nShouldn't be a problem. Assuming I can get the darned thing to \ncompile :)\n\nC\n\n\n"
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"On 28 Aug 2002, Daniel Quinlan wrote:\n\n> Dan Kohn <dan@dankohn.com> writes:\n> \n> > Daniel, it's easy enough for you to change the Habeas scores yourself\n> > on your installation. If Habeas fails to live up to its promise to\n> > only license the warrant mark to non-spammers and to place all\n> > violators on the HIL, then I have no doubt that Justin and Craig will\n> > quickly remove us from the next release. But, you're trying to kill\n> > Habeas before it has a chance to show any promise.\n> \n> I think I've worked on SA enough to understand that I can localize a\n> score. I'm just not comfortable with using SpamAssassin as a vehicle\n> for drumming up your business at the expense of our user base.\n\nI have to agree here. If Habeas is going to die just because SA does not\nsupport it, that's a serious problem with the business model; but that is\nnobody's problem but Habeas's.\n\nA possible solution is for Habeas's business model to include some kind of\nincentive for users of SA to give it the benefit of the doubt. I have yet\nto think of an incentive that fits the bill ...\n\nOn Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Justin Mason wrote:\n\n> I don't see a problem supporting it in SpamAssassin -- but I see Dan's\n> points.\n> \n> - high score: as far as I can see, that's because SpamAssassin is\n> assigning such high scores to legit newsletters these days, and the\n> Habeas mark has to bring it down below that. :( IMO we have to fix\n> the high-scorers anyway -- no spam ever *needs* to score over 5 in our\n> scoring system, 5 == tagged anyway.\n\nThis is off the topic of the rest of this discussion, but amavisd (in all\nits incarnations) and MIMEDefang and several other MTA plugins all reject\nat SMTP time messages that scores higher than some threshold (often 10). \nIf some new release were to start scoring all spam no higher than 5.1,\nthere'd better be _zero_ FPs, because all those filters would drop their\nthresholds to 5.\n\nOn Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Michael Moncur wrote:\n\n> But I agree that there needs to be more focus on eliminating rules that\n> frequently hit on newsletters. If any newsletters actually use the Habeas\n> mark, that will be one way to help.\n\nNewsletters won't use the mark. Habeas is priced way too high -- a factor\nof at least 20 over what the market will bear, IMO -- on a per-message\nbasis for most typical mailing lists (Lockergnome, say) to afford it.\n\nOn Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Harold Hallikainen wrote:\n\n> Habeus has come up with a very clever way to use existing law to battle\n> spam. It seems that at some point they could drop the licensing fee to\n> $1 or less and make all their income off suing the spammers for\n> copyright infringement.\n\nSorry, that just can't work.\n\nIf the Habeas mark actually becomes both widespread enough in non-spam,\nand effectively-enforced enough to be absent from spam, such that, e.g.,\nSA could assign a positive score to messages that do NOT have it, then\nspammers are out of business and Habeas has no one to sue. There's nobody\nleft to charge except the people who want (or are forced against their\nwill because their mail won't get through otherwise) to use the mark.\n\nConversely, if there are enough spammers forging the mark for Habeas to\nmake all its income suing them, then the mark is useless for the purpose\nfor which it was designed.\n\nEither way it seems to me that, after maybe a couple of lawsuits against\nreal spammers and a lot of cease-and-desist letters to clueless Mom&Pops,\nthen either (a) they're out of business, (b) they have to sell the rights\nto use the mark to increasingly questionable senders, or (c) they've both\ncreated and monopolized a market for \"internet postage stamps\" that\neverybody has to pay them for.\n\nThe latter would be quite a coup if they [*] could pull it off -- they do\nabsolutely nothing useful, unless you consider threatening people with\nlawsuits useful, yet still collect a fee either directly or indirectly\nfrom everyone on the internet -- effectively we'll be paying them for the\nprivilege of policing their trademark for them. I don't believe they'll\never get that far, but I don't particularly want to help them make it.\n\n[*] And I use the term \"they\" loosely, because the whole company could \nconsist of one lawyer if it really got to that point.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 the voices made Robin Lynn Frank write:\n\n> > Tony Svanstrom, on SpamAssassin-talk, noted this US patent:\n> >\n> > http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netah\n> >tml/PTO/search-adv.html&r=62&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&s1=spam&p=2&OS=haiku&RS=spam\n\n> I took a bit of time to review what is on the above URL. If I were a news\n> editor, the headline would be:\n>\n> \"Inventor\" from country that ignores patents and copyrights, seeks patent for\n> inventing the wheel!\n\n The wheel is already patented in Australia; Melbourne man patents the wheel:\n\n <URL: http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:usJnd2dwCDQC:www.theage.com.au/news/state/2001/07/02/FFX0ADFPLOC.html+%22patents+the+wheel%22&hl=en&lr=lang_en|lang_sv&ie=UTF-8 >\n\n\n The sad news is that there seems to be a lot of patents (pending or not)\nthat's for very basic/general ideas; it's the current form of \"domainnapping\",\nand it might turn uggly when people start trying to enfoce these patents.\n\n\n\t/Tony\n-- \n# Per scientiam ad libertatem! // Through knowledge towards freedom! #\n# Genom kunskap mot frihet! =*= (c) 1999-2002 tony@svanstrom.com =*= #\n\n perl -e'print$_{$_} for sort%_=`lynx -dump svanstrom.com/t`'\n\n\n"
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"\nBob Sully said:\n\n> Spamassassin (2.30) has been tossing my daily LogWatch (3.3) reports into \n> the spam bucket. A recent one generated the folowing hits: ....\n\nfixed in CVS I think, or at least my logwatches get through fine. If it\nis not fixed in CVS, then report it, using the correct bug-reporting\nprocedure:\n\n 1. open a Bugzilla bug. http://bugzilla.SpamAssassin.org/\n\n 2. attach a sample mail message *as an attachment* with all\n headers intact\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=839\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From alan@rdrop.com 2002-09-05 22:22 -------\nI haven't tried 2.41 yet because it requires File::Spec, which barfs when\nspamassassin tries to use it. I haven't filed a bug yet because I suspect it's\nbecause I'm still running 5.005 perl because of reported compatibility issues\nwith 5.6 and later, but I probably will because I think there's too much legacy\nperl code to put up with major compatibility problems, and spamassassin didn't,\nat least in the quickest of looks, say it needed a newer one. The perl @ stuff\nwas bad enough... but this is all a separate soapbox...\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"\nCraig Hughes said:\n\n> > - All headers are reproduced in full. Some address obfuscation has\n> > taken place; hostnames in some cases have been replaced with\n> > \"example.com\", which should have a valid MX record (if I recall\n> > correctly). In > most cases though, the headers appear as they were\n> > received.\n> \n> Nope:\n> \n> [craig@balam craig]$ dig example.com mx\n\nI knew there was something about example.com ;)\n\nAh well, that's probably just as good anyway...\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"> (Please feel free to forward this message to other possibly-interested\n> parties.)\n\nSome caveats (in decending order of concern):\n\n1. These messages could end up being falsely (or incorrectly) reported\n to Razor, DCC, Pyzor, etc. Certain RBLs too. I don't think the\n results for these distributed tests can be trusted in any way,\n shape, or form when running over a public corpus.\n\n2. These messages could also be submitted (more than once) to projects\n like SpamAssassin that rely on filtering results submission for GA\n tuning and development.\n\n3. Spammers could adopt elements of the good messages to throw off\n filters. And, of course, there's always progression in technology\n (by both spammers and non-spammers).\n\nThe second problem could be alleviated somewhat by adding a Nilsimsa\nsignature (or similar) to the mass-check file (the results format used\nby SpamAssassin) and giving the message files unique names (MD5 or\nSHA-1 of each file).\n\nThe third problem doesn't really worry me.\n\nThese problems (and perhaps others I have not identified) are unique\nto spam filtering. Compression corpuses and other performance-related\ncorpuses have their own set of problems, of course.\n\nIn other words, I don't think there's any replacement for having\nmultiple independent corpuses. Finding better ways to distribute\ntesting and collate results seems like a more viable long-term solution\n(and I'm glad we're working on exactly that for SpamAssassin). If\nyou're going to seriously work on filter development, building a corpus\nof 10000-50000 messages (half spam/half non-spam) is not really that\nmuch work. If you don't get enough spam, creating multi-technique\nspamtraps (web, usenet, replying to spam) is pretty easy. And who\ndoesn't get thousands of non-spam every week? ;-)\n\nDan\n\n\n"
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"\n(trimmed cc list)\n\nDaniel Quinlan said:\n\n> 1. These messages could end up being falsely (or incorrectly) reported\n> to Razor, DCC, Pyzor, etc. Certain RBLs too. I don't think the\n> results for these distributed tests can be trusted in any way,\n> shape, or form when running over a public corpus.\n\nI'll note that in the README.\n\n> 2. These messages could also be submitted (more than once) to projects\n> like SpamAssassin that rely on filtering results submission for GA\n> tuning and development.\n> The second problem could be alleviated somewhat by adding a Nilsimsa\n> signature (or similar) to the mass-check file (the results format used\n> by SpamAssassin) and giving the message files unique names (MD5 or\n> SHA-1 of each file).\n\nOK; maybe rewriting the message-ids will help here, that should allow\nus to pick them out. I'll do that.\n\n> 3. Spammers could adopt elements of the good messages to throw off\n> filters. And, of course, there's always progression in technology\n> (by both spammers and non-spammers).\n> The third problem doesn't really worry me.\n\nnah, me neither.\n\n> These problems (and perhaps others I have not identified) are unique\n> to spam filtering. Compression corpuses and other performance-related\n> corpuses have their own set of problems, of course.\n> \n> In other words, I don't think there's any replacement for having\n> multiple independent corpuses. Finding better ways to distribute\n> testing and collate results seems like a more viable long-term solution\n> (and I'm glad we're working on exactly that for SpamAssassin). If\n> you're going to seriously work on filter development, building a corpus\n> of 10000-50000 messages (half spam/half non-spam) is not really that\n> much work. If you don't get enough spam, creating multi-technique\n> spamtraps (web, usenet, replying to spam) is pretty easy. And who\n> doesn't get thousands of non-spam every week? ;-)\n\nYep. The primary reason I released this, was to provide a good, big\ncorpus for academic testing of filter systems; it allows results to\nbe compared between filters using a known corpus.\n\nFor SpamAssassin development, everyone has to maintain their own corpus.\n\n--j.\n\n"
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"On Aug 23 Bort, Paul wrote:\n\n>If your sendmail has been compiled with Milter support, you can add SMRazor\n>easily. We've been using it for a while without problems. Others on the list\n>have mentioned it as well. \n>\n>http://www.sapros.com/smrazor/\n\nDoes this fork+exec a perl interpreter for every incoming mail? If so, I \nreckon your mailer is vulerable to a DoS attack without too much effort...\nThe real question is: is there a way to run razor without this overhead? \nEven some sort of razord you could talk to over a unix socket would do.\nUntil I can find one, I cannot spare the resources to run razor at all :(\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"Bonjour,\n\n I'm writting a Python script, in order to use Razor with Qmail.\n The script is finish, but i want to test the result with positive\n mail (spam). Somebody knows, whrere can i find one.\n\n PS : Escuse my pooooooor English ;-))\n \n--\nToorop \nLorsque que vous avez éliminé l'impossible, ce qui reste, \nmême si c'est improbable, doit être la vérité.\nwww.spoonsdesign.com\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"Bonjour,\n\n Always for my script, if i run it manually in console all is ok\n whether is the user.\n But if i try to implement it in my general script filter running\n whith qmailq UID (503) :\n\n I've got 13 has exit status, and in my mail log :\n \"Can't call method \"log\" on unblessed reference at\n /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm line 211.\"\n\n My log file is in /home/user/.razor/razor-agent.log\n and have write permission for qmailq user.\n\n Any idea ??\n\n--\nToorop \nLorsque que vous avez éliminé l'impossible, ce qui reste, \nmême si c'est improbable, doit être la vérité.\nwww.spoonsdesign.com\n\n---------------------------------\nMail scanné par Protecmail filter \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"use Perl Daily Newsletter\n\nIn this issue:\n * This Week on perl5-porters (30 September / 6 October 2002)\n * RATS\n\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------+\n| This Week on perl5-porters (30 September / 6 October 2002) |\n| posted by rafael on Monday October 07, @07:12 (summaries) |\n| http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/07/1124226 |\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------+\n\nIt was a busy week indeed, with long threads, interesting bugs, clever\nfixes, miscellaneous optimizations, some new ideas, a few jokes,\nmysterious failures, and, finally, a security hole. Read on.\n\nThis story continues at:\n http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/07/1124226\n\nDiscuss this story at:\n http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/10/07/1124226\n\n\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------+\n| RATS |\n| posted by KM on Monday October 07, @09:01 (news) |\n| http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/07/132252 |\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------+\n\nOdud writes \"RATS, the Rough Auditing Tool for Security, is a security\nauditing utility for C, C++, Python, Perl and PHP code. RATS scans source\ncode, finding potentially dangerous function calls. The goal of this\nproject is not to definitively find bugs. The current goal is to provide\na reasonable starting point for performing manual security audits.\nProduced by [0]Secure Software\" Uses a database so you can alter what you\nwant it to look for. Not a replacement for using stricture or your head\nbut is a good place to start some security auditing on your Perl.\n\nDiscuss this story at:\n http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/10/07/132252\n\nLinks:\n 0. http://www.securesoftware.com/rats.php\n\n\n\nCopyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved.\n\n\n======================================================================\n\nYou have received this message because you subscribed to it\non use Perl. To stop receiving this and other\nmessages from use Perl, or to add more messages\nor change your preferences, please go to your user page.\n\n\thttp://use.perl.org/my/messages/\n\nYou can log in and change your preferences from there.\n\n\n"
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"See your /etc/sendmail.cf file, there are a number of methods for limiting\nthe number of concurrent sendmail processes, either by load average (I'm\nsure), or concurrency (I think)... I use sendmail anymore (I use qmail) but\nI'm sure that if you look in the config file, you will see what you need...\n\nRegards,\nAdam\n\n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net\n> [mailto:razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Joe Berry\n> Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2002 1:44 PM\n> To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net\n> Subject: [Razor-users] Reducing impact from tons of email\n>\n>\n> I'm not sure if this is really a razor problem/issue or a sendmail\n> problem. Here's the scenario... My mail server is a 150mhz PC funning\n> FreeBSD 4.4. Ordinarily, the machine is quite idle; it supports my\n> wife's web site with Apache server running on it and a few other\n> services (jabber, etc). Between the various members of our family, we\n> get a fair amount of email coming in (mailing lists, etc). On\n> occasion, our DSL-based ISP dies for a number of hours. When we get a\n> reconnection to the Internet, I get a huge flow of emails coming in\n> which are then filtered via razor. As a result, I will sometimes see\n> over 20+ sendmail processes running at the same time after such an\n> occasion. The machine is then REALLY slow.\n>\n> I noticed that my /etc/procmailrc file had had no arguments associated\n> with the call to razor-check. There was something in the log, though,\n> to make me suspicious that it was possibly not seeing all my razor\n> files. So I have just added \"-home /etc/razor\" as an argument. I\n> haven't had any down time since then so I cannot comment on whether\n> this change has sped up my razor processing a noticable amount. (This\n> paragraph may be an aside to my real problem, the first paragraph\n> above; but I thought I should be complete in my description.)\n>\n> At any rate, has anyone else suffered from a backlog of email\n> processing creating lots and lots of sendmail processes? Is there,\n> perhaps, a way to limit the number of sendmail processes?\n>\n> Any ideas would be welcome.\n>\n> Thanks,\n> Joe\n> ---\n> Joe Berry\n> joe@topshot.com\n> AIM \"joe topshot\"\n> Yahoo Msgr \"joetopshot\"\n> jabber \"joetopshot@topshot.com\"\n> Baltimore, MD\n>\n>\n>\n> -------------------------------------------------------\n> This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n> cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n> https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n> _______________________________________________\n> Razor-users mailing list\n> Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n>\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"The following razor debugging sequence show my mail going from 9295 bytes to\n0 bytes after the preproc runs, which gives me an exit code that is not 0.\nI included the message below.\n\nFox\n\nRazor-Log: No /etc/razor/razor-agent.conf found, skipping.\nRazor-Log: No razor-agent.conf found, using defaults.\nAug 26 10:28:09.225237 check[3469]: [ 1] [bootup] Logging initiated\nLogDebugLevel=9 to stdout\nAug 26 10:28:09.225890 check[3469]: [ 5] computed razorhome=/etc/razor,\nconf=, ident=/etc/razor/identity\nAug 26 10:28:09.226006 check[3469]: [ 2] Razor-Agents v2.14 starting\nrazor-check -d -home=/etc/razor\nAug 26 10:28:09.229704 check[3469]: [ 9] uname -a: Linux qmail.mckee.com\n2.4.8-34.1mdk #1 Mon Nov 19 12:40:39 MST 2001 i686 unknown\nAug 26 10:28:09.230155 check[3469]: [ 8] reading straight RFC822 mail from\nAug 26 10:28:09.231524 check[3469]: [ 6] read 1 mail\nAug 26 10:28:09.231923 check[3469]: [ 8] Client supported_engines: 1 2 3 4\nAug 26 10:28:09.233017 check[3469]: [ 8] prep_mail done: mail 1 headers=631,\nmime0=9295\nAug 26 10:28:09.233434 check[3469]: [ 6] skipping whitelist file (empty?):\n/etc/razor/razor-whitelist\nAug 26 10:28:09.233995 check[3469]: [ 5] read_file: 1 items read from\n/etc/razor/servers.discovery.lst\nAug 26 10:28:09.234369 check[3469]: [ 5] read_file: 1 items read from\n/etc/razor/servers.nomination.lst\nAug 26 10:28:09.234697 check[3469]: [ 5] read_file: 3 items read from\n/etc/razor/servers.catalogue.lst\nAug 26 10:28:09.235184 check[3469]: [ 9] Assigning defaults to\nhonor.cloudmark.com\nAug 26 10:28:09.235415 check[3469]: [ 9] Assigning defaults to\ntruth.cloudmark.com\nAug 26 10:28:09.235624 check[3469]: [ 9] Assigning defaults to\nfire.cloudmark.com\nAug 26 10:28:09.235830 check[3469]: [ 9] Assigning defaults to\napt.cloudmark.com\nAug 26 10:28:09.236715 check[3469]: [ 5] read_file: 11 items read from\n/etc/razor/server.truth.cloudmark.com.conf\nAug 26 10:28:09.237368 check[3469]: [ 5] read_file: 11 items read from\n/etc/razor/server.fire.cloudmark.com.conf\nAug 26 10:28:09.237825 check[3469]: [ 5] 149643 seconds before closest\nserver discovery\nAug 26 10:28:09.238135 check[3469]: [ 6] truth.cloudmark.com is a Catalogue\nServer srl 51; computed min_cf=1, Server se: 0B\nAug 26 10:28:09.238414 check[3469]: [ 8] Computed supported_engines: 1 2 4\nAug 26 10:28:09.238656 check[3469]: [ 8] Using next closest server\ntruth.cloudmark.com:2703, cached info srl 51\nAug 26 10:28:09.238871 check[3469]: [ 8] mail 1 Subject: New Freeware\nDownload\nAug 26 10:28:09.290618 check[3469]: [ 6] preproc: mail 1.0 went from 9295\nbytes to 0, erasing\nAug 26 10:28:09.291100 check[3469]: [ 5] Connecting to truth.cloudmark.com\n...\nAug 26 10:28:09.505431 check[3469]: [ 8] Connection established\nAug 26 10:28:09.505662 check[3469]: [ 4] truth.cloudmark.com >> 29 server\ngreeting: sn=C&srl=51&ep4=7542-10&a=l\nAug 26 10:28:09.506086 check[3469]: [ 6] truth.cloudmark.com is a Catalogue\nServer srl 51; computed min_cf=1, Server se: 0B\nAug 26 10:28:09.506342 check[3469]: [ 8] Computed supported_engines: 1 2 4\nAug 26 10:28:09.506604 check[3469]: [ 8] mail 1.0 skipped in check\nAug 26 10:28:09.506686 check[3469]: [ 5] No queries, no spam\nAug 26 10:28:09.506787 check[3469]: [ 5] disconnecting from server\ntruth.cloudmark.com\nAug 26 10:28:09.507071 check[3469]: [ 4] truth.cloudmark.com << 5\nAug 26 10:28:09.507155 check[3469]: [ 6] a=q\nAug 26 10:28:09.507959 check[3469]: [ 8] razor-check finished successfully.\n\n\n\n>>From bounce-html-sales1-21787251@lyris.execsoft.com Mon Aug 26 14:28:10 2002\nReturn-Path: <bounce-html-sales1-21787251@lyris.execsoft.com>\nDelivered-To: log@qmail.mckee.com\nReceived: (qmail 3472 invoked from network); 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Now it's been updated for all\nWindows operating systems from Windows 98 onward.\n\nNew Diskeeper Lite is still manual-only and cannot be scheduled\nor run across a network, but it is far superior to any built-in\ndefragmenter and much faster. And it will show you why full-version\nDiskeeper is the most recommended automatic defragmenter ever\nbuilt.\n\nFind out what you are really missing. Free!\n\n\nhttp://www.execsoft.com/downloads/survey.asp?PId=15&ad=dkldl3\n\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nNOTICE: We periodically send new product information electronically or\nsurvey those individuals who voluntarily give us their e-mail address.\nWe hope you enjoy receiving this timely information. 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All other trademarks and brand names are the\nproperty of the respective owners.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n------------------------------------------------------------->\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n<html>\n\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=windows-1252\">\n<title>New Freeware Download</title>\n\n</head>\n\n<body>\n\n <p align=\"center\">\n <img border=\"0\" src=\"http://www2.execsoft.com/max-perf_speedo.jpg\"\nwidth=\"537\" height=\"121\"><img border=\"0\"\nsrc=\"http://www2.execsoft.com/n-dkl_082302.jpg\" width=\"470\"\nheight=\"106\"></p>\n <table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"2\" cellspacing=\"0\"\nstyle=\"border-collapse: collapse\" bordercolor=\"#111111\" width=\"100%\"\nid=\"AutoNumber2\">\n <tr>\n <td width=\"100%\">\n <p align=\"center\"><b><font face=\"Verdana\" color=\"#ff0000\"\nsize=\"5\">IT'S\n FREE!</font></b></td>\n </tr>\n </table>\n<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"4\" cellspacing=\"0\" style=\"border-collapse:\ncollapse\" bordercolor=\"#111111\" width=\"100%\" id=\"AutoNumber1\">\n<tr>\n <td width=\"15\" valign=\"top\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </td>\n <td width=\"15\" valign=\"top\">\n <p><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"2\">\n <span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt\">\n <img src=\"http://www2.execsoft.com/chk-mark.gif\" border=\"0\" width=\"15\"\nheight=\"14\"></span></font></td>\n <td width=\"100%\" valign=\"top\"><font face=\"Verdana\">Includes the same\nadvanced defragmentation technology\nused in Diskeeper 7.0.</font></td>\n </tr>\n <tr>\n <td width=\"15\" valign=\"top\">&nbsp;</td>\n <td width=\"15\" valign=\"top\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"2\">\n <span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt\">\n <img src=\"http://www2.execsoft.com/chk-mark.gif\" border=\"0\" width=\"15\"\nheight=\"14\"></span></font></td>\n <td width=\"100%\" valign=\"top\"><font face=\"Verdana\">Much faster than the\nprevious\n Diskeeper Lite and all built-in defragmenters.</font></td>\n </tr>\n <tr>\n <td width=\"15\" valign=\"top\">&nbsp;</td>\n <td width=\"15\" valign=\"top\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"2\">\n <span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt\">\n <img src=\"http://www2.execsoft.com/chk-mark.gif\" border=\"0\" width=\"15\"\nheight=\"14\"></span></font></td>\n <td width=\"100%\" valign=\"top\"><font face=\"Verdana\">Now runs on Windows\nNT<sup>®</sup>/98/2000/XP.</font></td>\n </tr>\n</table>\n<p><font face=\"Verdana\">Millions of downloads attest to the popularity of\nDiskeeper Lite, but it only ran on Windows NT 4.0. Now it's been updated\nfor all\nWindows operating systems from Windows 98 onward.</font></p>\n<p><font face=\"Verdana\">New Diskeeper Lite is still manual-only and cannot\nbe\nscheduled or run across a network, but it is far superior to any built-in\ndefragmenter and much faster. And it will show you why full-version\nDiskeeper is\nthe most recommended automatic defragmenter ever built. </font></p>\n<p><b><font face=\"Verdana\">Find out what you are <i>really</i> missing.\nFree!</font></b></p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: center\" align=\"center\">\n<span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\">\n\n<font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">\n\n<a href=\"http://www.execsoft.com/downloads/survey.asp?PId=15&ad=dkldl3\">\n<img src=\"http://www2.execsoft.com/dlnowbut.gif\" border=\"0\" width=\"195\"\nheight=\"25\" alt=\"Download Diskeeper Lite\"></a></font></p>\n\n\n <table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"2\" cellspacing=\"0\"\nstyle=\"border-collapse: collapse\" bordercolor=\"#111111\" width=\"100%\"\nid=\"AutoNumber4\">\n <tr>\n <td width=\"100%\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana\"><font\nsize=\"2\">\n Full version Diskeeper\n\navailable for purchase from:</font></span></td>\n </tr>\n </table>\n\n\n <div align=\"center\">\n <center>\n\n\n <table border=\"1\" cellpadding=\"2\" cellspacing=\"0\"\nstyle=\"border-collapse: collapse\" bordercolor=\"#111111\" width=\"620\"\nid=\"AutoNumber3\">\n <tr>\n <td width=\"100%\">\n <p align=\"center\">\n<span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\">\n\n <map name=\"FPMap0\">\n <area\nhref=\"http://www.buy.com/retail/searchresults.asp?orderby=4&querytype=&qutyp\ne=0&qu=diskeeper&pagereq=1&alpha=&alpha2=&deptid=0&mfgpartno=&mfgid=0&search\nid=0&loc=105&search_store=2\" shape=\"rect\" coords=\"491, 25, 576, 49\">\n <area\nhref=\"http://www2.warehouse.com/search/pppsmainsearch.asp?home=micro&qu=disk\neeper&imenu=&so=X&Search.x=6&Search.y=12\" shape=\"rect\" coords=\"191, 69, 328,\n101\">\n <area\nhref=\"http://www.pcconnection.com/scripts/searchresults.asp?BasicSrchText=di\nskeeper&SR=1&ER=10&TR=0&ST=BS&PP=0&sortval=Price&plattype=A&Search.x=40&Sear\nch.y=12\" shape=\"rect\" coords=\"3, 8, 165, 52\">\n <area\nhref=\"http://www.softchoice.com/software/prod_description.asp?5445x$qJpibFSc\nVSPL34dNX1NpKIC7k0y8w2JTWf0TJAZv16neAteuE$2jAUDdqSkqd22U8RG_ODIY1ZVd0ZK2FJBL\npFHM1p8InrYf$$dQNb9amrhiAmTmLZzs6Jg4VvRqWW09_ng7ABuhLAPrzhNCfBQIlCQ25pKQimn$\nHCmHgoBko9i4bo43b9ggk2ngYvPiimlN6\" shape=\"rect\" coords=\"196, 5, 334, 52\">\n <area\nhref=\"http://www.softwareshelf.com/products/execsoftprod.asp?p=5\"\nshape=\"rect\" coords=\"1, 70, 167, 101\">\n <area\nhref=\"http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=490710&bc\nFlag=True&bcCatId=0&bcCatName=Software,+Books+&+Training&bcDeptId=1443&bcDep\ntName=Utilities&bcClassId=140505&bcClassName=System+Maintenance\"\nshape=\"rect\" coords=\"362, 4, 459, 50\">\n <area href=\"http://shop2.outpost.com/product/3196730\"\nshape=\"rect\" coords=\"357, 70, 437, 122\">\n <area href=\"http://www.asap.com/execsoftware/2001Q11.htm\"\nshape=\"rect\" coords=\"484, 72, 613, 117\">\n </map>\n <img border=\"0\"\nsrc=\"http://www2.execsoft.com/logos_resell_082302.gif\" usemap=\"#FPMap0\"\nwidth=\"620\" height=\"124\"></span></td>\n </tr>\n </table>\n </center>\n </div>\n\n<hr noshade color=\"#E4E4E4\">\n\n<FONT SIZE=\"1\" FACE=\"Verdana\"><B>\n<FONT COLOR=\"#FF0000\">NOTICE:</FONT></B> We periodically send new product\ninformation electronically or\nsurvey those individuals who voluntarily give us their e-mail address. 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DISKEEPER, Executive Software and the Executive\nSoftware\nlogo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Executive Software\nInternational, Inc. in the United States and/or other countries. Windows\nand\nWindows NT are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corporation in the\nUnited\nStates and/or other countries. All other trademarks and brand names are\nthe\nproperty of the respective owners.<br>\n&nbsp;</font></p>\n\n</body>\n\n</html>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"The following was personal correspondence between two people. I can't\nfathom how Razor thinks it is spam:\n\n>\n> We are struggling with the decisions related to wether or not to\n> go ahead with our plans to purchase an OCR and forms\n> scanning solution.\n>\n> An outside consultant mentioned that he had heard that not to\n> long ago you folks were considering implementing OCR\n> technology to reduce data entry costs and improve efficiency.\n> If you could let us know if you did move foreward with any\n> plans in that direction it would be of great help to us. May I ask\n> what initialy prompted you to consider OCR? Did you decide it\n> could help your compamy? What software did you go with?\n> Would you recomend we take a look at it?\n> At present we are still planning to continue our research until\n> we decide which OCR system best suits our needs, then\n> implement it quickly.\n>\n> If you are just starting to consider this\n> technology feel free to stay in touch. We will let you know what\n> we decide on and if it works for us.\n>\n> If you cannot advise on this please forward this E-mail to the\n> proper individual in your company who might be able to help with\n> this.\n> Thanks,\n> Jay\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"Hello,\n\ndid any of you hear about a a razor plugin for mozilla?\na plugin that would add a \"report as spam\" button somewhere for the user \nto report a mail as spam on a server?\n\nArnaud\n-- \nArnaud Abélard\nAdministrateur réseaux et systèmes\nIrin / Faculté de Sciences\nUniversité de Nantes\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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["Revoking self-submitted content (unblocking something you accidentally\nblocked) results in permanent deletion of said content from the\nnetwork.\n\nFortunately, Razor2/SpamNet isa network of content people DON'T want\n[in their inbox, let alone IP rights]. Block away!\n\n--jordan\n\n\nOn Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:24:33PM -0700, Craig R.Hughes wrote:\n\n# \"Free\" is a relative concept if you actually read the EULA. No\n# commercial use, and anything you submit to razor becomes entirely\n# their intellectual property. Better not accidentally hit \"This is\n# spam\" on anything you want to retain IP rights to.\n", "…"]
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"Oh, I was serious. I'm awful with perl/etc. I just think the HTML graph that\nwas created was pretty neat and I wish I could do something like that. :-)\n\n\n> I can't tell if you are serious or joking. I have a custom perl based\nspam\n> blocking framework that uses plug-ins to block spam. I test each message\n> with every plug-in and keep the stats in a mysql database, which are what\n> you see below.\n>\n> Fox\n>\n>\n> ----- Original Message -----\n> From: \"Jonathan Nichols\" <jnichols@pbp.net>\n> To: <razor-users@example.sourceforge.net>\n> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:07 PM\n> Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Razor v2 effectiveness stats - HTML table -\nTake\n> 2\n>\n>\n> > How do you make up graphs like that, anyway? :-)\n> >\n> > ----- Original Message -----\n> > From: \"Daniel Higgins\" <dhiggins@netc.net>\n> > To: \"Fox\" <lds0062@cdc.net>; <razor-users@example.sourceforge.net>\n> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:57 AM\n> > Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Razor v2 effectiveness stats - HTML table -\n> Take\n> > 2\n> >\n> >\n> > that's pretty impressive, have you seen any false positives yet? myself\n> i'm\n> > still at the stage of creating the corpuses. i'll report back after i\nget\n> > some testing of my own :P\n> > ----- Original Message -----\n> > From: Fox\n> > To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net\n> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:54 PM\n> > Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Razor v2 effectiveness stats - HTML table -\n> > Take 2\n> >\n> >\n> > Sorry about the html, for those of you still using elm or other\nnon-GUI\n> > clients. I don't have time to post it as text.\n> >\n> > The \"Spam Count\" is the total of all spam detected by the various\n> filters.\n> >\n> > Jammed is a custom phrase ranking system.\n> > Razored is Razor v2.\n> > Bayesian filter is based off of Paul Graham's work (statistical\n> > probability), using a corpus of 4000 non-spam and 2000 spam messages.\n> >\n> > Spam Statistics\n> > Date Spam Count Jammed Razored Blacklisted Trollbox Bayesian\n> > 2002-08-27 370 145 (39.19%) 181 (48.92%) 79 (21.35%)\n120\n> > (32.43%) 275 (74.32%)\n> > 2002-08-28 397 106 (26.70%) 126 (31.74%) 163 (41.06%)\n136\n> > (34.26%) 320 (80.60%)\n> > 2002-08-29 346 154 (44.51%) 146 (42.20%) 78 (22.54%)\n101\n> > (29.19%) 261 (75.43%)\n> > 2002-08-30 366 163 (44.54%) 166 (45.36%) 65 (17.76%)\n138\n> > (37.70%) 272 (74.32%)\n> > 2002-08-31 282 211 (74.82%) 133 (47.16%) 27 ( 9.57%)\n132\n> > (46.81%) 256 (90.78%)\n> > 2002-09-01 220 127 (57.73%) 125 (56.82%) 22 (10.00%) 91\n> > (41.36%) 157 (71.36%)\n> > 2002-09-02 166 86 (51.81%) 77 (46.39%) 22 (13.25%) 64\n> > (38.55%) 123 (74.10%)\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > -------------------------------------------------------\n> > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n> > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n> > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Razor-users mailing list\n> > Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n>\n>\n>\n> -------------------------------------------------------\n> This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n> cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n> https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n> _______________________________________________\n> Razor-users mailing list\n> Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n>\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"Hi,\n\nNewbie (to the list) question; I've been working on porting the code to\nrun under Perl on Windows. The changes are fairly minor and can be made\nto interoperate with the current code. How would one best go about\ngetting those changes merged in (better question, would there be\ninterest in such a version and getting those changes merged in)?\n\nBill\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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">Benoit claimed the prize for his size 14 feet. In the female division of the\n>competition, three women tied for first place with size 10 feet.\n>Winners took home a $100 gift certificate to either Footlocker or Barrie\n>Ltd.\n\nWell crap, mine are size 11.\n\n>\n>\"If I'd have known the contest was happening, I would have gone,\" said\n>Justin Simon '04, the proud owner of size 15 feet. \"A lot of the guys have\n>bigger feet than that. Dexter Upshaw ['06] wears a size 18.\"\n>\n>Simon said the $100 gift certificate would have almost paid for a new pair\n>of shoes.\n\nAlmost. If you shop at Payless!!\n\nBut sure could have used the $100 anyway!\n-- \n\n\nFel\nNEW!! Cafe Forteana is back: http://www.frogstone.net/Cafe/CafeForteana.html\nhttp://www.frogstone.net\nWeird Page: http://my.athenet.net/~felinda/WeirdPage.html\n\n[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nHome Selling? Try Us!\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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"On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 10:12:59PM -0400, Leland Woodbury wrote:\n> I found a nice little Perl script for this purpose called rotate, which \n> makes the process of rotating log files very simple. If there's an \n> official source for this script, I couldn't find it. (My hosting \n> provider, pair.com, has it installed, and that's where I found it.) \n> However, redistribution appears to be allowed, so I've attached it.\n\nThanks for the script. It also appears that the standard logrotate tools\nincluded with many systems (or at least RedHat systems) will support\nwildcards when rotating files so something like\n/home/*/.razor/razor-agent.log can be specified...\n\n-Dave\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 10:12:59PM -0400, Leland Woodbury wrote:\n> I found a nice little Perl script for this purpose called rotate, which \n> makes the process of rotating log files very simple. If there's an \n> official source for this script, I couldn't find it. (My hosting \n> provider, pair.com, has it installed, and that's where I found it.) \n> However, redistribution appears to be allowed, so I've attached it.\n\nThanks for the script. It also appears that the standard logrotate tools\nincluded with many systems (or at least RedHat systems) will support\nwildcards when rotating files so something like\n/home/*/.razor/razor-agent.log can be specified...\n\n-Dave\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"And you were exactly the person I figured would do so. <G>\n\nOn Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote:\n\n> On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:16:57PM -0500, Mike Burger wrote:\n> > You might be better asking this on the spamassassin-talk list. The folks \n> > there will almost definitely have an answer for this.\n> \n> I posted a fairly lengthy complete answer to this problem and how to\n> get around it in SA 2.41 on the spamassassin-talk list. :)\n> \n> \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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["On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 05:11:32PM -0500, Josh Hildebrand wrote:\n> If that's the case, can someone please point me to something that explains\n> how to remove Razor1 from my system? I don't see a point in envoking it.\n> Especially when it appears to error out on me.\n> \n> Problem while trying to load Razor1: Permission denied at\n> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 288.\n> debug: leaving helper-app run mode\n\nrm -rf /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Razor\n\n(you'll want to check that path first of course...)\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"It's a chicken finger device.\" - Theo, looking at entree\n", "…"]
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["On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:16:57PM -0500, Mike Burger wrote:\n> You might be better asking this on the spamassassin-talk list. The folks \n> there will almost definitely have an answer for this.\n\nI posted a fairly lengthy complete answer to this problem and how to\nget around it in SA 2.41 on the spamassassin-talk list. :)\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"Good judgment comes from bad experience, and a lot of that comes from\n bad judgment.\" - Zen Musings\n", "…"]
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"\nTheo,\n\nThank you very much, it solves the problem!!!!\n\nEugene\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net\n[mailto:razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Theo Van\nDinter\nSent: September 5, 2002 4:38 PM\nTo: Eugene Chiu\nCc: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net\nSubject: Re: [Razor-users] spamassassin+razor2\n\n\nOn Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 04:27:08PM -0400, Eugene Chiu wrote:\n> razor2 check skipped: Bad file descriptor Insecure dependency in open\nwhile runn\n> ing setuid at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Razor2/Client/Config.pm\nline\n> 410, <GEN23> line 1.\n> >From info@znion.com Thu Sep 5 11:55:15 2002\n> Subject: *****SPAM***** Computer Maintenance\n> Folder: /home/eugene/caughtspam\n8343\n\nIt looks like you're running via procmail -- what are the permissions\non procmail? \"Insecure dependency\" screams \"I'm in taint mode!\", which\nis a typical problem when procmail is setuid/setgid (the permissions\nshould be 755).\n\nIf this is in fact the problem, an easy solution is to put \"DROPPRIVS=yes\"\nin the procmailrc. :)\n\n--\nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"The bus had no heat, blew over in the wind and used the driver's legs\n as its first line of defense in an accident.\" - Unknown about the VW Bus\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"This is due to insufficient write privileges to the \"razor-agent.log\" \nfile. A quick work-around is to do a \"chmod go+rx\" on that file (of \ncourse, it's better to restrict the access as much as possible).\n\nIn Agent.pm, when the Razor2::Logger object is created, if it doesn't \nhave write permission to the log file it does not succeed. Then, later \nin the code when the log object is used, it fails with the \"unblessed\" \nerror.\n\nHope this helps,\nMichael Duff\n\nDavid Rees wrote:\n\n>This is my first time running Razor, heard a lot of good things about it so\n>I thought I'd give it a shot. I also run SpamAssassin so I'd like to\n>integrate the two.\n>\n>I'm not sure if this problem is with SpamAssassin or Razor, so I though I'd\n>shoot the message here first\n>\n>With a freshly installed SpamAssassin 2.41 and Razor 2.14 I'm seeing these\n>messages spit out from spamd:\n>\n>razor2 check skipped: No such file or directory Can't call method \"log\" on\n>unblessed reference at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm\n>line 211, <STDIN> line 75.\n>\n>Any ideas? razor seems to run correctly over the command line.\n>\n>Thanks,\n>-Dave\n>\n>\n>-------------------------------------------------------\n>This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n>cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n>https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n>_______________________________________________\n>Razor-users mailing list\n>Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n> \n>\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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">Helen & Mike wrote:\n>\n>> Chat tends to be on irc.quakenet #forteana most nights. I think this was\n>> done mainly because of troll infestation. Colin has control most nights on\n>> there, and he keeps an eye on people and kicks them if they come in under\n>> assumed names, or as soon as they show their true natures. Just call him\n>> Billy Goat Gruff :-)\n>\n>How do you sign up?\n>\n>Thanks!\n>\n>Kelly\n\nkelly, same thing as when you used to come to frogstone on Dalnet. \n#frogstone is still there, and also #forteana. If you want to go to \nquakenet, just change your server (in mIRC if that is what you use) \nto that.\n-- \n\n\nFel\nNEW!! Cafe Forteana is back: http://www.frogstone.net/Cafe/CafeForteana.html\nhttp://www.frogstone.net\nWeird Page: http://my.athenet.net/~felinda/WeirdPage.html\n\n[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"
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["On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 04:27:08PM -0400, Eugene Chiu wrote:\n> razor2 check skipped: Bad file descriptor Insecure dependency in open while runn\n> ing setuid at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Razor2/Client/Config.pm line\n> 410, <GEN23> line 1.\n> >From info@znion.com Thu Sep 5 11:55:15 2002\n> Subject: *****SPAM***** Computer Maintenance\n> Folder: /home/eugene/caughtspam 8343\n\nIt looks like you're running via procmail -- what are the permissions\non procmail? \"Insecure dependency\" screams \"I'm in taint mode!\", which\nis a typical problem when procmail is setuid/setgid (the permissions\nshould be 755).\n\nIf this is in fact the problem, an easy solution is to put \"DROPPRIVS=yes\"\nin the procmailrc. :)\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n\"The bus had no heat, blew over in the wind and used the driver's legs\n as its first line of defense in an accident.\" - Unknown about the VW Bus\n", "…"]
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"Forgive me for being a partially stupid end-user of this fantastic\nspam fighting software.\n\nI was looking at my spamd debug output today, and noticed that it ran\nthrough Razor2 stuff, and then it ran through dccproc, and then it tried to\ngo through old Razor1 stuff. I'm assuming (and please correct me if I'm\nwrong) that Razor1 is out dated and was to be replaced entirely by Razor2.\n\nIf that's the case, can someone please point me to something that explains\nhow to remove Razor1 from my system? I don't see a point in envoking it.\nEspecially when it appears to error out on me.\n\ndebug: Razor1 is available\ndebug: entering helper-app run mode\ndebug: Razor Agents 1.19, protocol version 2.\ndebug: 170803 seconds before closest server discovery\ndebug: Agent terminated\nProblem while trying to load Razor1: Permission denied at\n/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 288.\ndebug: leaving helper-app run mode\n\nThanks!\n\n-- \nJosh Hildebrand Email: josh@jedi.net\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"You might be better asking this on the spamassassin-talk list. The folks \nthere will almost definitely have an answer for this.\n\nOn Thu, 5 Sep 2002, David Rees wrote:\n\n> This is my first time running Razor, heard a lot of good things about it so\n> I thought I'd give it a shot. I also run SpamAssassin so I'd like to\n> integrate the two.\n> \n> I'm not sure if this problem is with SpamAssassin or Razor, so I though I'd\n> shoot the message here first\n> \n> With a freshly installed SpamAssassin 2.41 and Razor 2.14 I'm seeing these\n> messages spit out from spamd:\n> \n> razor2 check skipped: No such file or directory Can't call method \"log\" on\n> unblessed reference at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm\n> line 211, <STDIN> line 75.\n> \n> Any ideas? razor seems to run correctly over the command line.\n> \n> Thanks,\n> -Dave\n> \n> \n> -------------------------------------------------------\n> This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n> cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n> https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n> _______________________________________________\n> Razor-users mailing list\n> Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n> \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"This is my first time running Razor, heard a lot of good things about it so\nI thought I'd give it a shot. I also run SpamAssassin so I'd like to\nintegrate the two.\n\nI'm not sure if this problem is with SpamAssassin or Razor, so I though I'd\nshoot the message here first\n\nWith a freshly installed SpamAssassin 2.41 and Razor 2.14 I'm seeing these\nmessages spit out from spamd:\n\nrazor2 check skipped: No such file or directory Can't call method \"log\" on\nunblessed reference at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm\nline 211, <STDIN> line 75.\n\nAny ideas? razor seems to run correctly over the command line.\n\nThanks,\n-Dave\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"No as a answer to this FAQ, would the recommended answer be to \n\na) chmod 755 /usr/bin/procmail\n\nor \n\nb) add DROPPRIVS=yes to /etc/procmailrc\n\nor \n\nc) all of the above\n\n\nI ask because I just did B, and my procmail is still:\n-rwsr-sr-x 1 root mail 67988 Jul 24 15:43 /usr/bin/procmail\nBut things seem to be working, so far..\n\n\nOn Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:18:55PM -0400, Eugene Chiu wrote:\n> \n> Theo,\n> \n> Thank you very much, it solves the problem!!!!\n> \n> Eugene\n> \n> \n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net\n> [mailto:razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Theo Van\n> Dinter\n> Sent: September 5, 2002 4:38 PM\n> To: Eugene Chiu\n> Cc: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net\n> Subject: Re: [Razor-users] spamassassin+razor2\n> \n> \n> On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 04:27:08PM -0400, Eugene Chiu wrote:\n> > razor2 check skipped: Bad file descriptor Insecure dependency in open\n> while runn\n> > ing setuid at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Razor2/Client/Config.pm\n> line\n> > 410, <GEN23> line 1.\n> > >From info@znion.com Thu Sep 5 11:55:15 2002\n> > Subject: *****SPAM***** Computer Maintenance\n> > Folder: /home/eugene/caughtspam\n> 8343\n> \n> It looks like you're running via procmail -- what are the permissions\n> on procmail? \"Insecure dependency\" screams \"I'm in taint mode!\", which\n> is a typical problem when procmail is setuid/setgid (the permissions\n> should be 755).\n> \n> If this is in fact the problem, an easy solution is to put \"DROPPRIVS=yes\"\n> in the procmailrc. :)\n> \n> --\n> Randomly Generated Tagline:\n> \"The bus had no heat, blew over in the wind and used the driver's legs\n> as its first line of defense in an accident.\" - Unknown about the VW Bus\n> \n> \n> \n> -------------------------------------------------------\n> This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n> cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n> https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n> _______________________________________________\n> Razor-users mailing list\n> Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n-- \nJosh Hildebrand Email: josh@jedi.net\nDigital Sluice Pager: http://www.digitalsluice.com/josh/pager\nPhone: 512-255-9797 eFax: 413-691-9191\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 05:10:23PM -0400, Rob wrote:\n> I just set up razor and spamassassin, but I keep getting this error in my \n> mail log file\n> \n> razor2 check skipped: No such file or directory Can't call method \"log\" on \n> unblessed reference at \n> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm line 212.\n> \n> I have looked through the archived list and the only thing I have seen \n> about this error is a possible permission problem on the log file.\n\nYeah, the answer isn't here in this list, it's on the spamassassin-users\nlist. I just asked it late last week.\n\nHint: Add -H to the spamd startup flags using the latest version of\nspamassassin.\n\n-Dave\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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">I managed to get myself an iMac yesterday (just a G3 but a good'un) and was\n>wondering if any of the Apple people on here could recommend a good ISP (for\n>narrow band at the moment) for getting online under OS X.\n>\n>Stew\n\nmy local ISP works great with my iMac. I don't know what you guys \nhave over there, but OS X ought to let you get online as well as \nanything else.\n\nCrossing my fingers though....I did a upgrade to Jaguar, and ended up \ndoing a scrape and install after that. \n\nOh, and I am on 56k dialup\n-- \n\n\nFel\nNEW!! Cafe Forteana is back: http://www.frogstone.net/Cafe/CafeForteana.html\nhttp://www.frogstone.net\nWeird Page: http://my.athenet.net/~felinda/WeirdPage.html\n\n[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nHome Selling? Try Us!\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"