Newsgroup: it.discussioni.ufo
Titolo: Forma degli UFO

Ho fatto il gito del mondo in 80 siti ufologici :-) e mi sembra 
d'aver rilevato che nel corso degli anni, le descrizioni sulla forma 
degli UFO sia cambiata.
Inizialmente c'era una prevalenza di forme rotonde, ed una 
descrizione che scendeva quasi a livello del singolo particolare 
(oblo, bulloni ecc.)
Poi si è passati a forme triangolari e cilindriche, con una 
contenporanea diminuzione della chiarezza dei particolari.
Oggi, sembra vada per la maggiore la forma: globo luminoso, senza 
possibilità di cogliere nessun dettaglio.
Da cosa può derivare una simile tendenza al cambio delle forme ed 
all'individuazione dei particolari?
Dall'influenza dell'editoria (fumetti, films, ecc) e dele conoscenze 
ingegneristiche delle varie epoche?
Ciao
Inviato da 
www.mynewsgate.net

 contenporanea diminuzione della chiarezza dei particolari.
Questo brevissimo report di UFO triangolari avvistati nel mondo smentisce
la tua teoria, guarda gli anni degli avvistamenti. (per ragioni di spazio
e tempo non ho riportato le intere casistiche dei diversi tipi di ufo
avvistati).
"Gira meglio"...
ciao
Carmelo 
7/1/77 15:00 Miami FL Triangle 1/2 hour Over downtown Miami, 1 mile
triangular - no fewer than 300,000 peope saw it. 1/22/00 
6/1/77 00:30 Raymond NH Triangle 2 Minutes Triangular object with
multi-colored lights hovering at treelines 7/30/02 
5/1/77 00:00 Jacksonville AR Triangle 5 minutes Luminious at a distance,
very fire like ( massive blaze, orangish-red glow, turning amber up close.
Very quiet. Triangular shape, 2/18/01 
2/10/77 21:00 Rio de Janeiro (Brazil) 
 Triangle 1 minute I WAS IN BARRA DA TIJUCA IN A CAMPING SITE WITH 2
FRIENDS, SAW LIKE A PYRAMID IN THE AIR, STARTED TO RUN AWAY, THE GIRL RAN
AWAY A FEW  3/4/03 
12/3/76 23:00 Monrovia IN Triangle 20 min after being followed by a ufo, a
beam of light shown down on my sister 2/16/99 
7/1/76 San Diego CA Triangle 60-90 seconds Summer of 1976, San Diego, CA,
visiting Father stationed in CA for 3 weeks. One evening saw large red
Triangular shaped object. 11/17/99 
6/15/76 21:30 Wyandotte MI Triangle approx. 10 minutes Close up view of
Triangular shaped UFO -Spacecraft communicates by repeating light signals
8/5/01 
6/1/76 22:00 Cascais (Portugal) 
 Triangle 2 secs 20 years ago my father saw 3 triangular shaped objects
"dancing" in the sky above him. 8/28/03 
6/1/76 17:00 Pacific Palisades CA Triangle 1 minute I was a thirteen year
old boy who was at church in Pacific Palisades Calif.My mother and I were
attending my Confermation from the cath 10/15/02 
12/7/75 11:45 Jacksonville FL Triangle 3-5 MINUTES WHILE WALKING ON
ATLANTIC BOULEVARD IN JACKSONVILLE I WITNESSED A BOOMERANG SHAPED OBJECT
ALMOST COLLIDE WITH A COMMERCIAL AIRLINER 1/28/99 
10/15/75 23:00 Collinsville AL Triangle 15 minutes It was like something
out of star wars 7/16/03 
10/1/75 21:00 Kincheloe Air Force Base, Michigan MI Triangle 15 seconds
Shaped like the letter "A", flew directly over top of us at est 500 ft.
2/16/00 
7/15/75 21:00 Smithland KY Triangle approx 10mins I noticed 5 amber light
in the shape of a triangle moving from east to west. 4/22/03 
7/11/75 20:00 Mt. Hope WI Triangle unknown A night in Wisconsin that a
small group of people will never forget with a flying triangle craft above
our car. 3/19/02 
7/9/75 20:30 Manchester (UK/England) 
 Triangle 10 mins Matt black triangle 8/5/01 
7/1/75 19:00 Hull (UK/England) 
 Triangle one minute This Triangular object Burst through the clouds and
then flew straight back up into them again, with a trail of clouds
following it. 8/5/01 
6/23/75 21:00 Arlington TX Triangle 8 minutes The three craft slowly came
in from the west and turned north. 4/2/99 
6/15/75 21:00 Detroit MI Triangle 20 min watch Craft was dark grey/gun
metal, both small & large lights on under belly no sound. Moving along the
Southfied Freeway 2/16/00 
6/1/75 12:00 Nashville TN Triangle 5min a large black triangular shaped
craft that hovered with small birds circling all around it (maybe a
Thunderbird sighting) 8/5/01 
5/25/75 17:00 Delroy OH Triangle 2 to 3 minutes We observed a large,
glowing, triangular object hover noislessly obove a hill across the lake.
2/16/99 
2/18/75 23:00 Akin IL Triangle 2 hrs Awoke to see red,blue and,white
lights floating around the ceiling ran outside and seen a triangular
shaped object hovering above the t 4/2/99 
9/15/74 02:00 Kelso WA Triangle hour Grandma's UFO 3/6/01 
9/5/74 21:00 Saskatoon (Canada) SK Triangle 2 Minutes Black triangle with
a white light on each point, trails from back two points 4/22/03 
9/1/74 16:00 Elmira (Canada) ON Triangle 4 to 5 minutes it made no sound
as the silver/grey craft slowly moved across the partly cloudy summer day
sky 2/18/01 
8/1/74 23:00 Campbell CA Triangle 12 seconds Sighting of a pair of
triangular UFO's over the SF Bay Area, August 1974
In the summer of 1974, I saw a pair of triangular objects 9/19/02 
7/20/74 03:00 Morgan City LA Triangle 10 min THE CRAFT WAS DARK GRAY OR
BLACK IN COLOR AND TRIANGLE IN SHAPE,IF MEMORY SERVES IT HAD A LIGHT ON
EACH CORNER AND MADE NO SOUNDS.
I 10/15/03 
7/15/74 22:30 New Albany IN Triangle 1|30 min. At 2230, my father and I
saw a black triangular shaped object in the sky with three lights, one
being green, the other two were red.  1/28/99 
7/15/74 21:00 Jacksonville FL Triangle 2hrs taking a picture of night
blooming cereus cactus at 9pm. craft came from north over ranche style
house. lots were one quarter acre. hov 7/30/02 
7/5/74 23:00 Jackson MS Triangle 10-15 minutes Three bright lights
positioned like a jet 's landing lights follow the car in Mississippi.
10/31/03 
6/15/74 13:00 Albany NY Triangle 2 minutes Airport radar confirms what I
saw. Please read my whole discription. 7/16/03 
6/15/74 08:00 Roseville MI Triangle 1 minute I saw a large black
triangular object overhead which resembled a stealth bomber 7/16/03 
6/14/74 05:30 La Mesa CA Triangle 2 min Triangular object with three
steady red lights, one on each corner, hovering over Miramar NAS 4/2/99 
6/6/74 23:00 Bells TX Triangle 10 min. Bright triangular pool rack 100
feet away 10 min. 100 foot length silent radical strobes blue green red
hypnotic 2/25/03 
6/1/74 02:00 Le Pegue (France) 
 Triangle 10 min South of France UFO night watch in mid 70's (true story)
8/5/01 
12/12/73 21:00 Kirkland WA Triangle 3 min MY WIFE AND I WERE DRIVING SOUTH
ON I405 WHEN I SAW WHAT LOOKED LIKE A LARGE AIRCRAFT ON FIRE DESCENDING
INTO THE SEATTLE AIR SPACE. IT 7/23/03 
10/1/73 20:30 North St. Paul MN Triangle Two minutes Large triangular
space craft sighted above North Senior High School' football field, in
North St. Paul, MN in early October 1, 1973 7/30/02 
9/30/73 22:30 Wooster OH Triangle 1 minute Driving on a back road in rural
Wayne county, we had been driving along a stretch of woodland when we
entered some cleared farmland. A 11/1/98 
9/8/73 20:00 Lewisburg PA Triangle 3min triangular ufo with red,
blue.green,lights 3/21/03 
8/1/73 00:00 Morrow GA Triangle 5 mins. Metallic, grey, triangular object
hovers just above tree top level behind house as we stood approx. 150 '
away on a clear summer night. 6/2/98 
8/1/73 Scituate MA Triangle 15 min This Diamond shape object hovererd on
one spot for 15 or more min and was seen by many people, it was mentioned
in the paper etc. It se 1/28/99 
7/24/73 02:24 Blackfoot ID Triangle Approx. 4 minutes Smooth, rounded
triangular object, stone grey, no lights or markings, dome on bottom,
silent. 3/7/98 
6/15/73 21:00 London (hwy 401) (Canada) ON Triangle unknown mother and
father encountered triangular hovering shape over hwy 28 years ago.
1/11/02 
3/15/73 17:00 Hartford CT Triangle minute wedge shaped objects flying in
formation over hood of car at dusk while driving on highway. 7/26/02 
7/15/72 17:00 Morton (9 miles north of) MN Triangle 5 minutes A triangular
craft w/3 lg orange lights silently flew overhead going west to east. It
then sped up and away. 1/7/00 
6/22/72 03:15 Oregon City OR Triangle 06-10 sec Triangular-Rounded
Edges-Very Black-Rimmed evenly with small lights and unevenly on its
underside. 8/5/01 
6/1/72 22:00 Winnebago IL Triangle 30 min It seemed to hear what we were
talking about. 9/29/02 
1/1/72 16:00 Seattle WA Triangle 30 sec. Man reports sighting in l972 or
1973. Heard woman scream, turned, and saw large triangular ship in sky.
11/2/99 
10/29/71 16:00 Bristol CT Triangle 5min. very large object seen over the
west end 10/12/01 
9/1/71 15:00 Buffalo NY Triangle less than 1 min. Silent, unmarked
arrowshaped aircraft flying low over the University at Buffalo. Was it an
experiment? 1/11/02 
8/15/71 06:00 Chateauguay (Canada) PQ Triangle unknown A triangle or
flying wing, lights could be seen on the bottom. A bright day, did not
appear to be clouds in the sky. moved so slow, I c 7/16/03 
7/20/71 04:00 Kelso WA Triangle 12 min AT 4:AM SAW VERY LARGE BLACK
TRIANGLE 150 FEET ABOVE ME LOW SOUND MOVING VERY SLOW !! 11/2/99 
5/1/71 02:00 Lewisburg WV Triangle 15 minutes I observed a triangular
object hovering without sound for approximately 15 minutes during the
night. 6/6/00 
1/15/71 13:00 Turin, northern Italy 
 Triangle 2minutes At 1 
P.M.in
 a clear sky, a grey triangle with a light
in the middle hovered over city for about 2 min, then disappeared in1sec
10/12/01 
5/20/70 23:30 Reading PA Triangle 10 minutes We saw this HUGE tringular
craft with lights on each corner when I was 16, as it hoovered above us
8/5/01 
8/15/69 02:00 Johnstown PA Triangle 10 MINUTES WHAT I SAW WAS MUCH LIKE
THE SIGHTING IN MILLSTADT, ILL...ONLY ALL I COULD MAKE OUT WAS THE MOVING
LIGHT FORMATION..SLOWLY MOVING HORO 4/28/01 
7/7/69 23:00 Brainerd MN Triangle 20 seconds While picking up hay bales at
night, I saw a triangular shaped object speed through the night sky.
2/18/01 
6/15/69 23:00 
 
 Triangle 3 minutes? Hi, I don't know a lot of the information on where or
when this happened cause I wasn't the one that saw it.
My mom did when she was 2/5/03 
1/1/69 23:00 Nevada test site NV Triangle ? Response to: Occurred :
4/1/2001 21:00 (Entered as : 04/01/01 21:00) 4/28/01 
11/20/68 07:30 Kent WA Triangle 30 seconds At daybreak, object (with
recessed light in nose, and soundless) passed by us in the low clouds. It
was barely getting light enough to  11/9/99 
10/15/68 02:00 Hastings MN Triangle 2 minutes Perfect semi circle vapor
trail left as soundless UFO makes a turn-around overhead. 12/2/00 
7/1/68 18:00 Tempe AZ Triangle 2 minutes Late 1960's UFO Sighting Tempe
Arizona Triangle Formation Objects 12/23/02 
6/1/68 21:00 Columbia SC Triangle 10 seconds When I was 10, both me and my
brother saw a triangular-shaped UFO floating in front of our house. 6/6/00 
4/8/68 18:45 Walla Walla WA Triangle @ 20 minutes The object moved up,
down, hovered, then left with extreme speed on a huge trajectory up into
space. We followed it on a surveyor's tr 11/1/98 
7/1/67 22:30 Colorado Springs CO Triangle 1 minute Triangular object in
1967 2/18/01 
5/15/67 19:30 Gainesville FL Triangle 3-5 minutes An equilateral triangle
with a red glowing light on each corner (one each corner--three total.
solid sillouette dark shape about the si 4/2/99 
5/5/67 22:00 Hallandale/Hollywood FL Triangle ~ 10 minutes I observed a
bright light in the distance that seemed to be making some very
strange/irregular/quick movements across the night sky. T 4/2/99 
10/15/66 20:00 Utica NY Triangle 3minutes i and a friend were coming home
one cold fall evening outside of Hugh R. Jones Elem. School . There was a
triangle of a red, green, whi 4/22/03 
9/15/66 23:00 Huntington WV Triangle 45 Seconds Triangular object with red
lights, moved from hover to bullet speed in an instant. 2 observations, 2
different towns 3/21/03 
9/15/66 21:00 Toledo OH Triangle 20 minutes glowing orb hovers 20 feet
above onlookers 10/15/03 
7/15/66 21:00 La Puente CA Triangle 5 minutes 3 triangle lights racing
across the sky playing "tag" for approximately five minutes, then went
straight up in the sky out of sight 8/20/01 
5/11/66 19:30 East Liverpool OH Triangle 10 minutes silver triangle seen
early evening by school choir 5/27/03 
9/15/65 20:00 Titusville PA Triangle 5 seconds Man recalls back in the
1960's of three trangular shaped objects moving northwest over his
hometown toward Lake Erie in the night sky. 12/2/00 
8/12/65 21:30 Fort Ord CA Triangle < 60 sec Triangurlar object peeks at
U.S. Army recruits following display of live fire at Fort Ord, CA. around
Aug. 12, 1965. 6/18/03 
7/15/65 00:30 Tehachapi CA Triangle 20 sec Large delta shape craft passed
overhead blocking out the view of stars behind its shape. No sound.
9/28/03 
8/1/64 21:00 Morro Bay CA Triangle 
 Around July or August of 1964, I was in Morro Bay for summer vacation ( I
was a teenager at this time). At about 9PM, was out on the b 4/2/99 
6/19/64 20:00 Tucson AZ Triangle 10 sec Early 60's Triangle Craft 9/17/03 
4/1/63 07:00 Tucson AZ Triangle 10 minutes Observed in western sky @ about
100 ft. flying to the south at about 10 to25 mph Flying in formation as
geese would fly 8/10/99 
10/1/61 22:00 Graham NC Triangle 30 seconds 3 flat, large white lights in
delta pattern, no sound, flying at tree-top level at 35-40 mph 5/14/02 
3/12/60 23:00 Houston TX Triangle 3 hours saw in sky made no noise lots of
flashing lights observed with telescope 1/28/99 
6/15/52 21:00 Jacksonville FL Triangle 30 seconds extremely fast triangle
shape object with one light on rear comes to a sudden stop, then seems to
shoot out of sight 9/13/02 
4/15/52 16:00 Greenville TX Triangle 1-2 MINUTES -SAW TWO SMALL 3-4 FOOT
TRIANGULAR SHAPED DULL METALIC OBJECTS BELOW THE CLOUDS MOVING IN A
SYNCRONIZED MANNER ROLLING END OVER END AN 8/4/03 
6/23/01 23:46 Blairsville GA Triangle 3 minuntes Strange triangular shape
object 8/5/01 
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12/13/03 16:25 Fitchburg MA Cylinder 2 minutes Bright Rod shaped craft
seen shortly after sunset,; North Central Massachusetts; 10 to 1 length to
width. 12/19/03 
12/1/03 12:07 Reynoldsburg OH Cylinder 1 minute Cylinder shaped object
moving east appearing behind jet contrails, reflecting daylight
inconsistently. 12/9/03 
11/22/03 19:30 New Carlisle (Canada) PQ Cylinder 
 As we were driving home we saw this bright cylinder, traveling at a very
high,then it exploded and crashed in the water. 11/26/03 
11/20/03 18:00 Marin CA Cylinder 5 - 10 minutes Bright, yellow UFO crashes
in California. 11/26/03 
11/7/03 16:00 Oxford AL Cylinder about 1 minute Crystalline Object appears
briefly near Mount Cheaha in the Talladega National Forest. 11/26/03 
11/6/03 22:30 Kittery ME Cylinder 20 MINUTES BRIGHT LIGHTS NEAR NAVAL BASE
11/8/03 
11/4/03 17:20 Wexford PA Cylinder 10 minutes What ever it was it was not
from this world. 11/26/03 
11/1/03 12:00 Palm Coast FL Cylinder 30 seconds Metallic cylinder object
12/9/03 
10/20/03 13:30 Oklahoma OK Cylinder 45 seconds low flying object just
fadded away slowly as we watched it. 10/31/03 
10/14/03 13:15 Chicoutimi (Canada) PQ Cylinder 2 sec I've see a big
cylidner maybe 30-40 feet long in the sky in low altitude don't know what
it is but it was really fast .like a flying c 10/15/03 
10/9/03 16:48 Everett WA Cylinder 2 minutes Polished metallic cylinder
stationary in daytime sky slowly rotates then disappears instantly
10/31/03 
10/3/03 02:30 New Delhi (India) 
 Cylinder 3 min (approx) UFO SEEN OVER NEW DELHI (INDIA) 10/7/03 
9/28/03 17:30 Houston TX Cylinder 2 - 3 minutes Object had no wings or
tail and made no sound. It appeared cylindrical and at times disc like. We
saw it in daylight in a clear sky 10/7/03 
9/19/03 08:30 California City CA Cylinder 4-5 minutes "tiny" flying
cylinder (not a drone, Predator, cruise missile, etc.) no wings/rudder/no
exhaust/no prop 9/24/03 
9/15/03 15:00 Hugo OK Cylinder 10 minutes Sighting of large bright silver
orb-like craft followed by sighting of 2 cylinder silent craft. 9/24/03 
9/14/03 15:00 Lake Stevens WA Cylinder 5min CYL OBJECT NO WINGS MOVING
SLOWLY THEN ACCELARATING THEN DISSAPEARING 10/31/03 
9/14/03 08:15 Montgomery (near) TX Cylinder 1 minute I saw what looked
like a bright star then it just dimmed out. 10/15/03 
9/3/03 23:10 Barriere (Canada) BC Cylinder approx: 5 seconds HBCCUFO
CANADIAN REPORT: saw a huge cylinder shaped craft flying very quickly.
9/12/03 
8/30/03 13:35 Toronto (Canada) ON Cylinder 10 Seconds While driving north
on the DVP at 1:35pm and we looked up in the sky and saw a white
cylindrical object flying east. 9/4/03 
8/30/03 13:30 Seattle WA Cylinder 30 minutes Shiny cylndrical object
hovering over downtown Seattle 9/4/03 
8/26/03 17:00 Indiana (general location) IN Cylinder 10 seconds One small
cylindrical object in sky 9/4/03 
8/24/03 10:00 Exeter (south-east of, golf course) ON Cylinder 60 seconds
silver cylinder shaped object that appeared and then vanished 8/28/03 
8/24/03 10:00 Exeter (south-east of, on golf course) (Canada) ON Cylinder
60 seconds silver cylinder shaped object that appeared and then vanished
8/28/03 
8/22/03 16:22 Courtenay (Canada) BC Cylinder Unknown Just noticed it when
we looked at photos taken on our fishing trip. 9/4/03 
8/18/03 20:00 Ridgefield WA Cylinder about one minute Abright orange
cylinder flying norhwest up much higher than I think a plane can go and
the speed was not steady, it slowed then sped at 8/28/03 
8/17/03 19:00 Point Pelee (Canada) ON Cylinder 15 sec White cylinder
flying East app. 1500 ft/sec silently above Point Pelee-Lake Erie Ontario
-19:00hr August 17,03. 8/28/03 
8/16/03 19:00 Wheaton IL Cylinder 2min i dont know what i was seeing
8/28/03 
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12/18/03 19:00 Woodstock GA Disk 10 seconds saucer seen with many
witnesses 12/19/03 
12/18/03 17:30 Kelowna (Canada) BC Disk 15 seconds huge bright yellow
light appeared then landed on a mountain top 12/19/03 
12/9/03 20:15 Greer SC Disk 5 seconds saucer like object across the
horizon 8:15pm southern sky, south carolina 12/9/03 
12/9/03 06:40 Milton (Canada) ON Disk 3min I was driving to work in the
early hours of the morning. The street I drive on Bronte st. has very
little lights in areas of it. There 12/19/03 
12/9/03 00:00 Norco CA Disk 45 minutes/1hr. I entered a ufo sighting
report on about 11/16 describing a large bluish white object with a red
light on the left side that I observed 12/19/03 
12/8/03 18:30 Orillia (Canada) ON Disk 30 seconds Huge disk, glowing white
aurau,5-10.000 feet headin se at fighter jet++speed ,leaving small aurua
tail,up close 8x21 binaculars 12/9/03 
12/7/03 15:55 Plymouth PA Disk 5 minutes This is an updated report for
sighting that occurred on 12/07/03 12/19/03 
12/5/03 18:30 Sedona AZ Disk Approx. 6 minutes Elongated sphere with
red/white strobing lights seen hovering over Airport Mesa in Sedona
12/9/03 
12/2/03 01:00 Toms River NJ Disk 5 mins all my friends witnessed it too,
Im not cazy 12/19/03 
11/30/03 12:45 Ashland NE Disk 3-5 MINUTES LARGE DARK DISK SHAPED OBJECT
WITH VERY BRIGHT LIGHT SEEN IN DAYLIGHT-HAVE VIDEO PROOF 12/9/03 
11/29/03 23:10 Siren WI Disk 2 hr went out side at 11.10 
p.m.to
 get
mail.seen objects south/east of siren.object changed colors moved up and
down fast . 12/9/03 
11/28/03 17:35 Palo Alto CA Disk 10 sec. I sitted an image in the sky.
12/9/03 
11/27/03 00:20 Kalispell MT Disk Continuing Since 1996, we have seen UFOs
w/flashing red, blue, green, & white lights circle our house apx. 2 miles
above us onece every month. 12/9/03 
11/25/03 16:10 Portland OR Disk 2 to 3 minutes Wobbling Disc Daylight
Sighting 11/26/03 
11/24/03 18:32 Fairbanks AL Disk 5 Minutes UFO speeding south, westward of
Fairbanks. 12/9/03 
11/21/03 19:00 Snappertuna (Finland) 
 Disk app.6 sec. objekt with two lights flying over my car 12/9/03 
11/16/03 11:05 Melbourne (Australia) 
 Disk 1 min bright glowwing yellow lights 11/26/03 
11/16/03 06:30 Santa Bonifacio (Corsica) 
 Disk 10 minutes approx Moon colored disk objects sighted from the second
floor of Le Royal Hotel at 6:30 AM Nov. 16, 2003 12/19/03 
11/12/03 21:00 Boothbay Harbor ME Disk 1 hour Bright Red Objects with
Orbiting White Lights/ Hovering Discs with Green,Red, Blue, White Lights
Dancing Around It 11/26/03 
11/11/03 18:10 Brandon FL Disk 15 min. Glowing saucer-shaped light
hovering, then lowering. 11/26/03 
11/10/03 20:00 Watsonville CA Disk 5 min Disk shaped object flew low, had
4 light and an antenna, once i began to run after it, it lowered as if it
were goin to land. 11/26/03 
11/10/03 18:30 West Covina CA Disk 5 minutes Cloud-like saucer shape with
top and bottom domes having flashing lights moving slowly at low altitude.
11/26/03 
11/10/03 18:20 Pasadena CA Disk 15 min Driving East on 210 Fwy, looked to
right, and my Daughter and I saw a saucer, fluorcent lights, just kept on
hovering, did have a red l 11/26/03 
11/8/03 20:30 New York City NY Disk ~1 minute Dark, silent cylinder/worm
shape over NYC the night of the eclipse 12/9/03 
11/5/03 17:00 Pass Christian MS Disk 20-30 MIN IT WAS ROUND AND FLAT
LARGER THEN A HOUSE WITH RED LIGHTS ON THE SIDE AND WHITE LIGHTS
UNDERNEATH. 11/8/03 
11/5/03 12:20 Burlington VT Disk 1 minute On Nov.5th,2003 at 12:20 P.M.
our 12-year old son was home early from having only one half a day of
school, I was home early from work 11/8/03 
11/4/03 20:50 Deming NM Disk 15 sec. Orange glowing disk south west of
Deming NM on night of 11/04/03 11/8/03 
11/2/03 13:19 Seoul (South Korea) 
 Disk less than 1 sec Among 3 pictures taken in 1 sec in a row, it showed
only in the middle 11/8/03 
10/31/03 19:00 Spurger TX Disk 45 min. 45 minutes left to right and
circular motion seen several times since 11/26/03 
10/31/03 03:00 Vancouver (Canada) BC Disk 15 minutes From right put of
"Lost in Space The original. Rotating multi-colored lights bottom and
side, silent low hover, EERIE 10/31/03 
10/31/03 03:00 Vancouver (Canada) BC Disk 10-15 minutes Updated from
10/31/2003 Van BC Ca. with a much clearer discription. 11/8/03 
10/30/03 07:00 Topeka KS Disk 5 minutes I was driving north and saw a
silver disc in the northern sky. 10/31/03 
10/28/03 14:20 Spanaway WA Disk 1 Minute The object traveled at a steady
pace towards Mount Rainier. 11/8/03 
10/25/03 02:00 Springfield IL Disk 2 minutes In the sky over my head 2
bright white disk shaped objects that seemed to be chasing each other just
playing around. Then they just too 10/31/03 
10/24/03 20:15 Rockwood (Canada) ON Disk 3 Minutes I saw a saucer shaped
object with red blue and yellow lights above a cornfield one night on my
drive home from work. 11/8/03 
10/24/03 20:00 El Paso (East) TX Disk not known An unknown object was seen
floating in a deserted place not far from homes. 10/31/03 
10/24/03 16:00 Hollywood FL Disk less than 1min Devins clouds an
uncexpected sighting 10/31/03 
10/22/03 18:40 Skyline Drive UT Disk 4 min. Watched 3 disk shaped objects,
stationary, and in a v-formation, for about 4 minutes. 10/31/03 
10/21/03 22:00 Caswell NC Disk 
 They wre like little lights but, I could see suff comeing off them.
11/26/03 
10/20/03 16:45 Chicago IL Disk 1 min Standing on my backporch I saw a
disklike object gliding slowly through the air 10/31/03 
10/19/03 12:00 Rome GA Disk not sure Silver disk seen over the Rome,
Georgia area. 10/31/03 
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6/15/77 21:30 San Diego CA Sphere five seconds 1977, Intense blue light
over San Diego. 9/12/03 
6/15/77 01:00 Ft. Worth TX Sphere 1 minute Orange ball objects seen near
Ft. Worth, Texas twenty three years ago. 6/21/00 
8/15/76 22:30 Hatboro PA Sphere 10 minutes Glowing Orb with 2 satellites
circling 3/21/03 
7/21/76 23:00 Brevard NC Sphere 5 minutes Saw two star-like objects, one
bluish, theother orange, remain stationary for at least 5 minutes, then,
in sequence and at about a 2 mi 11/19/98 
6/21/76 01:30 Little Rock (southwest) AR Sphere 4 mins Flourescent ball
approximately 20 feet in diameter.Followed automobile at treetop level.Was
seen by police. 9/28/02 
12/21/75 19:00 North Attleboro MA Sphere 15 minutes Outline of the craft
clearly seen, rotating lights, no noise, slowly moving south 12/20/00 
7/10/75 23:45 Dartmouth (Canada) NS Sphere 3-4 minutes Orange Glowing
Balls 1/29/02 
7/4/75 10:00 Fair Haven NY Sphere 3 to 4 Min. 7 spheres in a formatin
hovered above us, traveled at a high rate of speed,changed color 9/24/03 
6/6/75 La Paz (Bolivia) 
 Sphere 6 min Sorry,but my inglis is not good to write.But i will do my
best. We were standig in a very busy st in la Paz ,went someone pointet to
th 8/5/01 
6/1/75 21:00 Goffstown NH Sphere 
 i was coming home from the boysclub riding my bike then then brite object
like the color of a tail pipe near the engine but very brite  10/28/02 
1/1/75 19:00 Waverly Hall GA Sphere 5 - 10 min Hovering Sphere 11/26/03 
1/1/75 03:00 Jamestown NY Sphere a few minutes I was 13-15. I was in my
parent house on Moon Rd., Woke up in the middle of the night. Looked out
the window. saw a SMALL round objec 3/7/98 
10/27/74 21:00 Eastland UT Sphere 1 hour At the time this was happening, I
told myself that no one will ever convince me that this did not happen,
ever! 7/26/02 
10/1/74 18:00 Weirton WV Sphere 4 minutes Upon coming home one evening in
the early spring, I saw in the eastern horizon three circular objects that
looked like three full mooon 1/7/00 
7/15/74 19:30 Matheson (Canada) ON Sphere 3 seconds Big Orange sphere
traveling very high rate of speed,no noise like a sonic boom,no vapor
trail left,no descending like something falling 6/12/02 
6/15/74 23:00 Guaíba (Brazil) 
 Sphere 00:00:30 Estava em frente a minha casa de veraneio olhando para o
céu para os lados do oeste e vi um objeto esférico de cor azul como uma
bolha 4/27/03 
6/15/74 21:00 Pensacola FL Sphere 1 minute a sphere shaped object hovered
over us while on the beach. A police officer was heard reporting seeing
something at the same time. 4/22/03 
6/15/74 20:00 San Diego (Mission Bay Walk/Santa Clara Ct. M.B.) CA Sphere
3+min Enormous object to star like size in a flash 1/28/99 
6/1/74 22:30 Madison CT Sphere 45 minutes Event 1) Glowing sphere tracing
shoreline and crashed into the water. Event 2) Datona Beach FL. Flat
hourglass shaped black craft off 10/19/99 


 Carmelo 
OSTIA !!!
Riprendo la mongolfiera è faccio un altro giro!
Ti ringrazio per le segnalazioni, certo che questa mole di avvistamenti
comincia a preoccuparmi non 
poco...
Girerò meglio ;-)
Ciao
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Dando una scorsa veloce pero` noto che la maggior parte di questi
avvistamenti di ufo triangolari si trova negli anni '70.
Ma come hai detto anche io noto una certa "evoluzione" nei vari UFO.
Ma ti diro` di piu` io noto questa evoluzione fin dall`antichita`... 
Facendo un po` di cronologia spicciola...
Prima erano Angeli e Segni di Dio... 
Poi durante la seconda guerra mondiale diventarono Foo Fighters ed erano
delle sfere di luce (se non ricordo male)
Nel '47 Kenneth Arnold vide i suoi primi Ufo, ribattezzati da un
giornalista Flying Saucers (Dischi volanti)...
E da li ci fu` sempre una miriade di avvistamenti, e per quanto mi
risulta *sempre in linea* con la tecnologia del momento... 
Come se con il passare degli anni questi fantastici velivoli si
adeguassero a cio` che vorremmo che fossero... 
Forse siamo noi che ci inganniamo... 
O forse anche gli Alieni seguono i dettami di cio` che noi chiamiamo
"Moda"... 
E VENGHINO SIORI VENGHINO!!!
ECCO A VOI IL NUOVO MODELLO DI SHUTTLE RICOGNITORE BASSA QUOTA!
INTERNI IN RADICATO ESTREMO! SEDILI IN PELLE DI XLDKXI!
COLORI IPERCROMATICI CANGIANTI!
E chi ne ha ne metta :-))))
-- 
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Cavalier Errante nel rutilante mondo di Usenet

 "Moda"... 
No, come detto sopre siamo noi che interpretiamo gli stessi fenomeni in
base alle nostre conoscenze, come chi non conosce gli iridium e li scambia
per UFO.
ciao
Carmelo


"Moda"... 
mah, sarebbe come a dire che gli aGlieni seguono a "Striscia"
l'imitazione dello stilista Valentino o che vanno in giro vestiti da
Naomi Campbell :))
Ciao : Goffredo Pierpaoli
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; 
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http://www.bynoi.com/sonotranoi.html
; 
http://www.bynoi.com/mika.html
http://www.bynoi.com/asps.html

 degli UFO sia cambiata.
Ho letto il 3ed mi accingo ad esternare la mia "dubbiosa"
riflessione in merito alle forme degli UFO
Se uno vede una cosa in cielo lontana, le probabilità che ha di scorgerne la
sagoma riconducendola a qualcosa di noto ,verteranno nella maggioranza dei
casi , inesorabilmente ad un qualcosa di sferico.
Un puntino luminoso per esempio , prima di assomigliare ad un cubo o
qualche altro poliedro, resta uno sferoide,
e questo per i limiti ottici che hanno le nostre percezioni visive.
Questo è un punto che penso sia importante e che inquadra sia pur a grandi
linee e in maniera neutra,  il problema  che ha la nostra mente, ad
associare un evento atmosferico temporaneo e sfuggente simile ad un classico
avvistamento.
Poi vi sono i casi di oggetti volanti di altre forme meno essenziali di
quelle sferiche o circolari.
Qual'ora volessimo accostare per ipotesi, l'UFO ad un oggetto intelligente o
manovrato da una qualsiasi entità tale, allora vanno considerate alcune
cose, con tutti i limiti vizi e virtù che esistono in ambito umano,
antropocentrismi e pregiudizi compresi.
A mio modo di vedere, trovo più logico pensare che la forma da scegliere per
muoversi in un ambiente debba tenere conto dei vari fattori
che formano l'ambiente che dovrà ospitare la "nave", per cui vanno prese in
considerazione sia le leggi fisiche nonchè le densità degli spazi
che saranno presi in esame dai progettisti dei velivoli, nel contesto che li
vede inseriti.
Osservando macroscopicamente, cio che siamo abituati a veder volare nel
cielo della nostra atmosfera, ci viene difficile pensare ad aerei
sferici , piatti circolari o cmq senza accessori di tipo alare, reattori od
eliche di vario tipo.
Non è detto però che un velivolo debba avere una forma aerodinamica
del tipo di quella di un aereo, per volare in atmosfera.
La mongolfiera ne è un esempio eloquente.
Ma una mongolfiera non gode certo delle prestazioni aeree adatte a
spostamenti veloci e precisi da potersi permettere di essere usata per
viaggi interplanetari.
Però, assomiglia di più ad un'aeronave extraterrestre di quelle descritte
dalla letteratura ufologica.
Perche'?
Perchè il frutto della nostra fantasia, si esarebbe inventato l'ufo sferoide
o a forma di disco, piuttosto che alato?
Forse perchè tutto ciò che è terrestre è tremendamente noioso da essere
visto oltre i confini del nostro esplorato.Come un desiderio atavico di
voler sperare in una civiltà che meriti questo appellativo e che
quindi inizi a non rappresentare i nostri stili le nostre forme di
invenzioni ecc.
Forse perchè Kennet Arnold li ha visti cosi.
Forse perchè la forma sferoide, dopotutto è la più economica ed essenziale a
reslizzare il massimo spazio con il minimo spreco.
I corpi celesti non si sono scelti forme tetraedriche o bizzarre ;-)
Anche l'atomo sembra seguire un'ordine simile.
Le tane degli insetti e i nidi degli uccelli, sembrano anche loro in linea
con le forme, il più circolari possibili.
Poi vi sono alcuni ufo di forma triangolare.
Anche il triangolo potrebbe essere una risposta razionale .
La navicella americana ricorda un triangolo.
Poi ovviamente la fantasia ... spazia :-)
E la confusione la insegue, trascinandosi con se una serie infinita di dubbi
, che finiscono in alcuni casi per far perdere ogni punto di riferimento con
un qualcosa di affidabile .
Ed ecco che anche l'interesse per un qualcosa che sembrava valesse la pena,
soffermarsi un attimo a riflettere, perde quota.
C'è bisogno di una spinta che lo sorregga e quella spinta,
deve essere cmq supportata da concretezze.
Non dico "prove", che per altro è un termine difficilmente traducibile in
un'ambiente dove sono in gioco implicazioni sociopsicologiche al di sopra
delle parti.
Occorrono però concetti semplici che non siano troppo lontani dal  comune
modo di vedere le cose e che non siano supportati solo dalle flebili ali di
ipotesi e congetture.
Restiamo perciò all'ascolto, attraverso il  metro dei nostri sensi,
quello che ci ha trasportati fin quì, e che viaggia con noi
da milioni di anni!
Ciao Jeck