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Titolo: WE HAVE LOST THIS FOOLISH WAR!!!

We have lost this foolish war
Instead of admitting the truth about this conflict, our leaders have
consistently lied to us
Robert Fisk
5 April 1999
IT HAS all gone horribly wrong. Indeed, if the initial objectives are
recalled, then we have already lost this war. And it is not only the
tragedy of Biblical proportions on the Balkan mountainsides that proves
the futility of what we have done. Nato, remember, was supposed to stand
by the Rambouillet peace accords, force Slobodan Milosevic to accept
limited autonomy for Kosovo and end the slaughter and "ethnic cleansing"
of the Kosovo Albanians. Then Nato troops were to move into Kosovo in
order to protect the Muslim Albanian and Serb populations.
And what has happened?
Rambouillet is in ashes. Serbia is refusing to budge after 13 days and
nights of air raids. Those we pledged to protect are being driven from
their homes in the greatest act of depopulation in Europe since 1945.
The 12,000 soldiers who were meant to look after the Kosovo Albanians
are now doing just that - but in the wrong country, Macedonia. The Serb
civilians of Kosovo, whom they were also meant to protect, are now being
bombed by us. The destabilisation of the southern Balkans, which we went
to war to prevent, is now well underway.
And, instead of admitting the truth, our leaders consistently lie.
At first, we were told that the Serb leader would be forced to end his
"ethnic cleansing". The opposite has happened and now we are told - by
Robin Cook, no less - that Milosevic will be made to "pay the price",
which is not the same thing at all. Nato promised to attack only
military targets and, for as long as it thought it could crack the Serb
military, that is what it did. But now it is doing just what the
Americans did in Iraq - spreading the war to civilian targets, to
bridges and electricity stations and factories and refineries, under the
spurious excuse that these are also of use to the military. Of course
they are - just as roads and railway tracks and water mains are of use
to the military. And as we get more desperate, they may well be the next
target.
"This was never an operation that was planned for only two or three
days," Nato's spokesman James Shea told us on 26 March.
Really? So why were we not told this before we went to war? Why were we
not told of the possibility of weeks of air raids and the wholesale
abandonment of the Albanian civilian population of Kosovo if Milosevic
did not give in? Why do we only now learn about the prospect of a "long
war", perhaps lasting four years? And why, for God's sake, did no one -
not President Clinton, not Nato's Secretary General Solana, nor Robin
Cook, nor General Wesley Clark - realise the bombing must be supported
by ground troops?
How on earth did Clark come to believe that the Serbs would give up so
easily? Did he mistake the Yugoslav army for the Serb militias of
Bosnia? Did he think that bullies are always cowards and will therefore
give in? Did he not realise that only a real threat of ground invasion
might force Milosevic to agree to the Rambouillet accords in time?
Over the past two weeks, we have been told other lies: that it would
have been even worse if Nato had not bombed Serbia - and that we knew
Milosevic had planned the total "ethnic cleansing" of the Kosovo
Albanian population before we went to war. Clearly, the first statement
- from President Clinton himself - is rubbish.
With Serb paramilitaries butchering their way across Kosovo and poised
to drive out every last Albanian, it could not possibly be worse. And if
we knew that Milosevic had planned this, why did Nato not provide
fighting ground troops in those precious weeks following the original
Rambouillet conference?
In the past few days, our defence analysts have been hard at work to
explain the continued war. Not only is it intended to make Milosevic
"pay the price" for his brutality, but any faltering now would damage
the credibility of Nato itself. You bet it would. Almost two weeks ago,
we thought we had gone to war to save the Kosovo Albanians. Now it turns
out that we are at war to save Nato. And yes, yesterday was Nato's 50th
birthday, marked by a blazing oil refinery, an electricity station
burning itself out in northern Belgrade and hundred of thousands of
Kosovo Albanians freezing on the mountainsides of Montenegro, Albania
and Macedonia.
We should not be surprised. We asked the Kurds and the Shia Muslims of
Iraq to rise up against Saddam Hussein in 1991 and, when they did as
they were told, we abandoned them to the torture chambers of Iraq. This
time, we asked the Kosovo Albanians to sign the peace accords in Paris
and praised the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA). Now they are on
the run, we can do no more than bomb the Serbs from the air.
There was a telling moment last week when a senior RAF officer stood up
at Nato's regular briefing to tell journalists that the KLA "has not
been defeated" but was "regrouping" in order to "take up the armed
struggle" once again. What is this nonsense?
That a Nato officer should seek to support the KLA in such a way proved
two terrifying things: to the Serbs, that the KLA was a fifth column
(and thus worthy only of execution) and, to us, that Nato now regards
this ragtag bunch of ill-disciplined ex-Marxists as its foot- soldiers
in Kosovo. The substitute army for the Nato soldiers who will not be
sent into Serbia.
The Nato briefings become ever more sinister. At each one, a new and
ever more ghoulish story is produced for journalists - the mass
execution of intellectuals one day, the rape of young women the next,
the killing of fathers and sons in front of their families, the setting
up of concentration camps. These stories may well turn out to be true -
I suspect the truth may be worse - but the effect is
pornography-by-press-conference, with spokesman "Jamie" Shea acting as
the East End club doorman touting the evening's horror story and his RAF
colleague playing the role of manager, promising us that the show will
go on.
And so it will until every last Kosovo Albanian has been driven from his
home, or until MI5 or the CIA engineer the secession of Montenegro or
the overthrow of Milosevic. And all the while, the promises continue:
"We shall attack his murderous forces in Kosovo: we shall strike at the
nerve centres of his decision-making machine" (British Armed Forces
Minister Doug Henderson). Nato is showing "unflinching resolve" in the
battle against the "unbelievably brutal actions of Milosevic's special
police and army" (Air Marshal Sir John Day).
Tony Blair is suggesting that the Serb leader may face a war crimes
indictment. Do they think Milosevic will be frightened by all this?
After his supporters killed and raped their way through far more Muslims
in Bosnia than they have in Kosovo, we treated him as a peacemaker. He
was invited to the Dayton conference, he was regarded by Washington and
by the Foreign Office as "a force for stability in the Balkans" (as
Saddam was in Iraq after he invaded Iran). Milosevic was one of "our"
dictators - or at least a man with whom we could do business.
But now he has joined our list of "beasts" - we remember Saddam and
Gaddafi although, oddly, Osama bin Laden has dropped off our Satanic
radar screens for the present. We believe Milosevic can be "defanged" or
"declawed", or that we can, in the words of the Sun on the first day of
the war, "Clobba Slobba".
Alas, history is not like that. Nato thought that within three days of
its bombing campaign, it would have 200,000 Serbs on the streets of
Belgrade demanding Milosevic's removal. Instead, tens of thousands of
Serbs now gather on those streets for daily pop concerts to demonstrate
their hatred of Nato.
There are many words to encompass the events of the last 13 days:
brutality, vanity, arrogance. But above all, folly is the word that
comes to mind. Maybe we will find another persecuted population to
"protect" next year.
They had better watch out.

Luca,
Yes, this has been a terrible defeat for NATO.  I imagine the Serbs were
dancing in the streets when Milo told them of their glorious victory over
the west.
Lorne D. Gilsig
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 the west.
     Actually, the Serbs were dancing in the streets after the
announcement of "the victory of the peace policy of President
Milosevic" -- at least they were dancing in Belgrade.  They were
protesting in Sumadija (southern Serbia near Kosovo) and packing in
Kosovo itself.
     Five more such victories (Montenegro, Sumadija, Vojvodina,
Sandzak, Belgrade) and Serbia is undone.
     Warren Eckels
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5 April 1999
Germany can never be defeated!
Adolf Hitler 
5 April 1944
France can never be defeated!
Napoleon
5 April 1814
Serbs can never be defeated!
Prince Lazar
5 April 1389

Yes it is a shame 19 countries against the one small country.It is a
victiory, don't let the NATO NAZis to occupy the Serb land.They defeat the
old  Hitler, they  defeat the  NEW Hitler too.