Newsgroup: it.politica.polo
Titolo: NY Times: l'Italia difende interessi Berlusconi

THE EUROPEAN UNION
Warrant Plan Hits a Snag as Italy Says It Disapproves
By PAUL MELLER
RUSSELS, Dec. 6 - The creation of a European Union-wide arrest warrant was
set back today at a meeting of justice officials when Italy balked at a list
of 32 crimes agreed to by the other 14 member nations, including terrorism,
hijacking, child abuse, fraud and corruption.
In the aftermath of the attacks of Sept. 11, justice ministers were ordered
by their heads of state to have the warrant in place by Dec. 31. Explaining
his country's objection, Italy's justice minister, Roberto Castelli, said,
"Ministers defended to the very end a list containing crimes which have
nothing to do with terrorism, such as car stealing."
Mr. Castelli denied suggestions that Italy's stance was aimed at protecting
Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's business interests. Mr. Berlusconi has
been tried for fraud and tax evasion but has never been convicted. He
contends that he has been victimized by politically motivated magistrates in
Italy. For the European Union warrant, Italy prefers a list of six crimes
that carry life sentences, said Angela Eagle, a junior justice minister from
Britain. These do not include fraud or corruption.
Italy's refusal to budge was not explained well, Ms. Eagle said, adding that
there was widespread frustration about Italy's "intransigence."
"This is very unpleasant for us," said a German junior minister, Hansjoerg
Geiger. "We have international obligations."
The justice ministers did succeed in agreeing on a definition of terrorism,
and agreed to standardize penalties across the European Union: at least 15
years in prison as a maximum sentence for being a leader of a terrorist
group, and a minimum of eight years for anyone threatening to conduct
terrorist acts or assisting terrorists. The definition applies to groups or
individuals committing or threatening to commit certain acts, including
murder, kidnapping and hijacking, with the clear intent of intimidating a
population or destabilizing a country's political or economic structures.
Meanwhile, the union signed an agreement with the United States on
exchanging information about terrorism and serious crime. This agreement
includes only so-called technical information and not personal details.
Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who attended the signing ceremony to
underscore the agreement's importance, welcomed it, but urged greater
cooperation.
Europol, the fledgling European police agency, already cooperates with the
Federal Bureau of Investigation on the grounds that the attacks in New York
and Washington on Sept. 11 are seen as a life-threatening situation.
The justice ministers also approved the creation of a body of magistrates
from around Europe, to be called Eurojust. The intent is to coordinate
national efforts and emulate the countries with the best methods for
tackling international crime. Secretary Powell said United States
authorities were already working with Eurojust, which has been meeting
unofficially since June.
"We coordinate and cooperate on around 180 cases," said Michelle Coninsx, a
Belgian public prosecutor who has chaired the unofficial meetings. Ms.
Coninsx expressed disappointment at the justice ministers' failure to reach
an agreement on the arrest warrant.
"All along in operations work and in our meetings we've been confronted by
the lack of extradition proceedings for nationals in other E.U. countries,"
she said. The cross-border warrant would add speed, clarity and certainty to
the process of capturing such criminals or terrorists, she said.
Belgian's justice minister, Marc Verwilghen, who presided over today's
meeting, said he hoped Italy might come around to the view accepted by the
14 other members of the union. "I asked Mr. Castelli to sleep on it," Mr.
Verwilghen said. But none of the ministers held out much hope of winning
Italy over before next week's meeting of heads of state in Laeken, near
Brussels.
"It looks like we'll have to wait for Laeken," Ms. Coninsx said.
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Il concetto di progresso dev'essere fondato nell'idea di catastrofe. La
catastrofe è che tutto continui come prima. Essa non è ciò che di volta in
volta incombe, ma ciò che di volta il volta è dato.
                         W.Benjamin

                          W.Benjamin
non ci ho capito na mazza,puoi ripetere?
tattoo


Ora capisci? L'Italia si oppone inspiegabilmente a includere alcuni reati
che servono a definire il mandato di cattura europeo (contro il terrorismo),
guarda caso molti sono reati per i quali Berlusconi rischia di essere
accusato anche all'estero (per esempio frode).
Saluti

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news:nY8Q7.944$7v6....@twister1.libero.it...
| THE EUROPEAN UNION
| Warrant Plan Hits a Snag as Italy Says It Disapproves
| By PAUL MELLER
i don't speake english well...cazzo ma sto pagliaccio mi aveva promesso che
me lo avrebbe fatto parlare (era una delle 3 I )...: capace che se resto
disoccupato mi farà mangiare rabbia ed inglese..
--
silverluc

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beh...sintetizzando,se vuoi il mio modesto parere,il berlusca per natura
sua č uno abituato a contrattare,quindi aspettiamoci sempre dei tira e
molla in sede internazionale,niente mascherature giudiziare e robe del
genere,aggiungi anche che vorrebbe copiare l'irlanda per investimenti
esteri in italia che sono scarsissimi, quindi vorrebbe una specie di
paradiso fiscale per incentivare l'economia nazionale...sempre e
comunque a vantaggio del suo paese,niente di irregolare,solo
facilitazioni,ma sui media "tira" di piů l'affaire previti...
tattoo
tattoo


Al Cerone doesn't speak English, not a word!!!!! 
LEGGEET il sito di palzzo Chigi!!! E' uno spiscio! Sembra tradottro
con i programmi automatici, quelli che  traducono "Berlusconi tende la
trappola" con "Berlusconi curtains the trap"!!! infatti in una frase
del tipo "Berlusconi chiese pietà" "chiese" è tradotto con
"churches"...
Le tre I significavano: Intrallazzo, Ignobiltà, Ignoranza
e.
Berlus teme l'arresto di Garzon per i 100miliardi truffati a TeleCinco!