Newsgroup: it.discussioni.ufo
Titolo: MAJESTIC-12

Salve =)
Trovate il documento topsecret in formato PDF (sono le foto dei documenti
originali) all'indirizzo
http://www.unknown.it/
sezione "articoli", categoria "UFO ed Extraterrestri"
=) bye
VoTaN

originali) all'indirizzo
Primo_ Non urlare nel subject, prego.
Secondo_ Definisci "originali" e definisci "top secret", grazie.
Altrimenti e' ancora valido quanto scrivevano nel 1999 alcuni dei piu'
importanti ricercatori statunitensi:
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http://www.cufos.org/ros5.html
NEWS ADVISORY
FUND FOR UFO RESEARCH, P.O. Box 277, Mt. Rainier, MD 20712
RELEASE DATE MARCH 23, 1999
For additional information, contact: 
Don Berliner, 
703/684-6032
Richard Hall, 
301/779-8683
JOINT STATEMENT ON SOM-01-1 MANUAL PURPORTING TO CONFIRM MJ-12
 
The SOM-01-1 manual arrived in the mail to Don Berliner as a roll of
film from an anonymous source. This immediately raises suspicions,
since there is no identifiable source whose veracity and reputation
can be checked and no original documents that can be subjected to
forensic analysis. The manual has been carefully examined by the
undersigned parties, whose collective experience includes military
service in all three major branches; processing and handling of highly
classified military documents; analysis and reporting on Government
documents of various types; historical scholarship; and extensive
knowledge of military, government, and UFO affairs. (See brief
biographies, appended.) 
We believe this to be a hoax document; a deliberate fake designed to
mislead the public and to plant false information in the UFO research
community by person or persons whose motives are unknown. Deliberately
planted false information ("disinformation") such as this forces
investigators to waste their time checking on its validity rather than
on more productive efforts. Our general reasons for concluding that
the manual is a hoax are outlined below (for more specific details,
contact the individuals): 
(1) Documents and materials with high classifications have special
provisions attached to them to ensure the ability to trace them at all
times and to verify their integrity, until they are destroyed or
declassified. The security markings on the SOM 1-01 document do not
conform to required security procedures established for all agencies
by presidential executive orders. In some instances they are totally
contrary to established security procedures. No internal evidence
exists in the document to show that proper accountability was
exercised by the document's custodians.
(2) The inclusion of some accurate information has been cited as proof
of authenticity, whereas it could equally well be interpreted as a
cut-and-paste job to lend an air of authenticity. Partially legitimate
but altered UFO-related documents are already known to exist. 
(3) The content of the manual is strikingly inappropriate for its
stated purpose. A field manual for dealing with crashed craft and
alien bodies would have no reason to include (a) information on UFO
history, (b) a chart of UFO types, (c) information concerning radar
detection of UFOs, (d) a list of natural and artificial aerial
phenomena which can be mistaken for UFOs. 
(4) Military manuals of this type establish standards and define tasks
which must be performed to accomplish the mission. The manual fails to
establish such standards and is completely silent on personnel
qualifications and equipment requirements. Furthermore, the methods of
recovery and site security described inthe manual are inadequate and
tactically unsound. Regulations, materials, and training publication
references cited are grossly inadequate or completely missing.
The undersigned parties take UFO reports seriously and advocate
thorough scientific investigation. However, when it comes to analysis
of 2nd and 3rd and nth generation copies of documents, forensic
analysis is almost impossible. Content analysis already has shown
serious problems with MJ-12 related documents.
The only way SOM 1-01 and other alleged "documentary proof" ofMJ-12
could conceivably be authenticated would be by locating a documentary
paper trail of certifiably original documents in government archives,
or in private papers of important people. Even then, allegedly
authentic documents would need to be subjected to forensic examination
to determine such things as the age of the paper. And document experts
would need to examine them for internal accuracy and style. Given the
track record of fake documents and shoddy scholarship, rigorous peer
review is essential.
\signed\
Jan L. Aldrich, Master Sergeant, U.S. Army, retired. Intelligence NCO
(and Acting S-2) in European Theater; Security Manager, Top Secret
Control Officer, Cosmic Top Secret Control Officer, Communications
Security (COMSEC) Custodian, Classified Document Custodian, and
Nuclear Release Authentication System. Familiar with protocols for
establishing tactical bivouac areas with exclusion areas, operational
security, and nuclear weapon accident/incident operations during field
deployments. Fort Sill, Okla., Directorate of Training Development,
analyzing and developing training manuals and materials.
Donald L. Berliner, aviation writer and historian. Chairman, Fund for
UFO Research. Former U.S. Air Force communications specialist with
"crypto" security clearance. Newspaper reporter-photographer, and
Capitol Hill correspondent for group of scientific newsletters. Staff
member, National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena,
1965-1968.
Thomas P. Deuley, Lt. Commander, U.S. Navy, retired. Served 14 years
in the naval Nuclear Power and Naval Submarine Weapons program. Seven
years as a Naval Cryptologic Officer. One year as a Communications
Officer in charge of a 24-hour secure communications facility. Six
years as a Communications Security (COMSEC) Custodian, Collections
Officer, Analyst, and Auditor, and finally as a COMSEC electronics
engineer.
Richard H. Hall, writer and editor. Former Chairman, Fund for UFO
Research. Retired from Congressional Information Service; duties
included analyzing and abstracting government documents and reports.
Familiarity with Federal Government agencies and activities. Extensive
knowledge of all aspects of UFO history. Former Acting Director,
National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena.
Mark Rodeghier, PhD, sociology. Consultant in survey research,
statistical analysis, and research design. Scientific Director, J.
Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies. Extensive UFO research experience,
including participation in investigation of the Roswellcase, and
collection and analysis of government documents.
Note: Additional signers may be added at a later date.
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Saluti zetetici,
Roberto
 
-- 
Collabora al progetto EURODIF 2002
http://matematicas.montes.upm.es/eurodif.html

 Roberto
Auguri
VoTaN

newsgroup.. proprio una bella accoglienza, grazie
Ops, non voluto. Evidentemente all'ultima riunione Mib debbo essere
stato un poco troppo con Goffredo... ^__^ 
Per stemperare un poco la cosa, benvenuto sull'Newsgroup!
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 Roberto
bye :)
VoTaN

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:a7q54v$le2$1...@pegasus.tiscalinet.it...
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 Evita le "k" al posto delle "ch", grazie. Complicano solo la lettura.
Certo che tu la netiquette l'hai proprio capita tutta... :-\

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:a7pq40$v0q$2...@pegasus.tiscalinet.it...
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 Certo che tu la netiquette l'hai proprio capita tutta... :-\
gia'.. personalmente faccio uno sforzo enorme a scrivere senza "k"..
insomma, una lettera formale, un articolo.. necessitano una certa "forma"
appunto.. ma qui vorrei sentirmi libero di usare qualche slang
internettiano.. =)
non credo sia scrivendo "okki" invece di "occhi" che violero' la
netiquette.. io la vedo cosi' e sembra _ke_ _anke_ tu, Gyork, mi dia ragione
=)
p.s. senza togliere che Roberto Labanti e' preparatissimo e molto
informato..
www.unknown.it
VoTaN

 IceCool
Ciao IceCool :)
questi documenti saltarono fuori qualche anno fa.. essendo appassionato ho
fatto un po di ricerche e la versione completa (per cosi' dire, dato che
mancano le ultime pagine, quelle con la lista dei membri -successivamente in
parte svelata- e le foto) e' saltata fuori.
Io personalmente ritengo il materiale autentico ed e' stato molto bello
trovarmelo davanti =)
www.unknown.it
VoTaN

 riportare una traduzione del paragrafo:
son contento tu l'abbia trovato interessante ! anche a me certe parti
lasciano senza parole..
www.unknown.it
VoTaN

come li hai ottenuti?
Argh... non vorrei che questo sembrasse il thread del bravo poster,
ma... potresti quotare un po' meglio, grazie? ^__^
http://digilander.iol.it/ifst/html/Quoting.html
Ciao
Up
-- 
"Dubitare di tutto o credere a tutto sono due soluzioni 
ugualmente confortevoli, giacchč ambedue dispensano dal
compito di pensare."   (Henri Poincarč)

Evita le "k" al posto delle "ch", grazie
eeeeeeehh, esagerato! :D
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informato..
Uh... secondo me ha accesso diretto alla Biblioteca di Babele...
^__^
Ciao
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^__^
Ehm, grazie ad entrambi per i complimenti (evito di inserire
nuovamente la faccina imbarazzata...). 
Saluti zetetici,
Roberto
P.S.: Non alla Biblioteca di Babele ho accesso, ma soltanto ad un
terminale della rete Echelon...
Followup-To: poster
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 ^__^
ehe =) o di Alessandria =P ?
=)
www.unknown.it
VoTaN

 terminale della rete Echelon...
ghgh =)
www.unkown.it
VoTaN

 trovarmelo davanti =)
diciamo che:
- i documenti diffusi da Moore sono sicuramente falsi, cosa dimostrata da
anni
- l'Aquarius Telex e' falso
- il manuale SOM-01 e' falso per i maggiori ufologi americani (e a leggerlo
non ci sono dubbi)
- i documenti messi i giro da Tim Cooper fanno quasi tenerezza per il goffo
tentativo di falsificarli
in sostanza trovo difficile dire che c'e' anche una minima possibilita' che
siano autentici.
L'unico che ci crede ancora e' Stanto Freidman, ma lui crede anche a Babbo
Natale...
W