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Titolo: Fwd: DRWHO-L Millennium

 Cheers!
Just to be pedantic, unless the list had an issue "0", the millennium
issue won't be until issue 2001...
RI
PS: For anyone trying to figure this out, issues 1-1000 represent the
first thousand issues (first millennium), issues 1001-2000 represent the
second thousand issues (second millennium). So the new millennium begins
with issue 2001...
PPS: And yes, I am still in shock that global news services like CNN
told everyone it was the millennium when 2000 began -- and people
actually *believed* them. The power of the media., Scary!
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 actually *believed* them. The power of the media., Scary!
And you know what else? I'm willing to bet some large amount (or I would
be, if I had it to bet) that they'll report the exact same thing next
year; when it turns 2001, they will welcome everyone to the New
Millennium the same way they did in 2000. Unless they suddenly develop a
nagging desire for consistency...
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...So the new millennium begins with issue 2001...
But one celebrates the completion of 2000 issues (or indeed years), not the
start of the next 1000. Similarly, 2000 is the right year to be celebrating
the new century - but it's at the end of December 31st, not the start of Jan
1st.
Paul
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 1st.
Well, it all depends on whether you're celebrating the end of the last 1000
issues, or the beginning of the next thousand... both are perfectly good
things to celebrate!!!
RI
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 1st.
*IF* you mean the end of the 20th Century or the 2nd Millennium you are,
of course, correct. However, you can celebrate the end of *a* century or
millennium at any time you wish. Tonight the century that began at midnite
on February 3, 1900 ends at midnite. Tonite also ends the Millennium
that begin February 3, 1000 (well sort of, see next paragraph)
Actually, Jan 1, 2001 fails as the start of the new millennium since the
change from Julian to Gregorian calendars means there's a shortfall
of days (can't remember off the top of my head how many, more than 15 
but less than 25) so 1000 years from Jan 1, 1001 won't occur until
sometime in mid-January!
How's that for pedantic?
David H Tiffany
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Talk abot hype.
Here is a proposition:
Time travel to 1910, pluck a person back to 2000 and
make him guess which year this is.
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 sometime in mid-January!
And we're all buzzin' about that one! Actually there's a village somewhere
in the UK that uses the Julian calendar because it's "an old tradition we
don't want to forget", so they all got blitzed about two weeks ago.
Hmm.....
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of course, correct.
*Obviously* I mean the end of the 20th century. That's why I said "the new
century", not "a new century".
Paul
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 nagging desire for consistency...
I was annoyed by this myself (a little -- I've been resigned to the
common perception of when the Millennium began for some time) BUT
CNN Headline News actually did mention the correct date for the 
Millennium as a sort of footnote in one broadcast.
Hm.  On-topic. . .  On-topic. . .  Ah!  Did they refer to Dec 31,
1999 as the end of the Millennium in the TVM?
  Worth,  who's wondering if you're supposed to capitalize millenium,
but can't be bothered to look it up
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OH GOD.......please no more calendar debates in this forum......they're so...so...so 90's!!!
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 1st.
Actually...no. Or at least I don't think so - I've been wrong before.
Here 'tis as I understand it. (It occurs to me that this may be getting
offtopic...)
'Way, 'way back at the beginning (or whatever...), we started with Year
1; so the first decade was not ended, and hence the second not begun,
till Year 11. Similarly, the first century was not ended, and hence the
second not begun, till Year 101. In exactly the same way, the first
millennium was not ended, and hence the second not begun, till Year
1001.
As I put it to my mother the other week, when we were discussing the
'60s, "Yes, the 1,960th decade was from 1061 to 1070; but the '60s were
from 1960 to 1969." Saying that 2000 begins the new millennium is
inaccurate; at best (depending of course on your definition of "best"),
it merely ends the old one. For the same reason, saying that 2000 begins
the new century is also inaccurate; it doesn't even begin a new decade,
or at least not any more than any random time does. But I have managed
to come up with something that the change to 2000 does mark.
It does not mark the end of the second millennium. It does not mark the
end of the 20th century. But it indisputably marks the end of the 1900s.
(Reading back over this, I have realized that I was responding to a
misinterpretation on my part of the previous post; but as I've written
all this out, I think I'll send it anyway.)
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misinterpretation on my part of the previous post;
Yup.
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Totally off topic I know but a question about time
Yesterday was 02/02/2000 the first day for a while with no
odd number in the date,
When was the last one?
When will the next one be?
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 When will the next one be?
02/04/2000 - in other words, tomorrow.
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 actually *believed* them. The power of the media., Scary!
Oh, come on, ours is a living language, defined by use not prescription.
Billions of people around the world consider they've just celebrated the
dawn of the new millenium. That's what the word is used for, that's what
people understand by it - and so, that /is/ what it means. 
Does anyone in here believe "The eleventh hour" to mean ten o'clock? No?
Well then.
We now return you to your normal scheduled topic.
Love and hugs,
Matt
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 02/04/2000 - in other words, tomorrow.
Of course we won't see another odd day until 1/1/3111
Last one was 11/29/1999, did you remember to have a party?
David H Tiffany
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 02/03 11:37 pm >>>
Totally off topic I know but a question about time
Yesterday was 02/02/2000 the first day for a while with no
odd number in the date,
When was the last one?
When will the next one be?
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 were from 1960 to 1969." 
What, and this is your idea of precision and accuracy? Reread it, think
a little, and hang your head in shame.
The 1,960th decade is around the time when the animus was pissing about
on Vortis - although conveniently the Menoptera of the time had quite a
sixties look to them. 1061-70 was the time of the Vikings, who despite a
good grounding in raping and pillaging never quite got into swinging. I
therefore deduce from this somewhat idiosyncratic dating system that you
will be celebrating the dawn of the twentieth century at half past three
in the afternoon on March 7, 1438.
Have a good one.
Love and hugs,
Matt
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sixties look to them.
...and, to pre-empt the obvious response, the *196th* decade was from 1951
to 1960.
Paul
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 in the afternoon on March 7, 1438.
Mmmpphhh. I'm dreadfully sorry about that. I was just repeating here
exactly what I'd said in the conversation I referred to, and for a
variety of reasons (most of which are to do with practicality) I tend to
be less precise in my casual conversation than in either serious
conversation or any sort of written communication. In point of fact I
didn't even realize what you were talking about till I read the next
post...well, I suppose this goes to show that even the best (or those
who try the hardest, or whatever) can make mistakes...
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