Newsgroup: it.comp.console.playstation
Titolo: Z.O.E another PAL 60 hz SHAME for European gamers

Z.O.E is one of the few titles that I have bought for my PS2, I have saved a lot of money just to
buy it (PS2 games are very expensive in Europe). I want PAL games to be as good as their NTSC
counterparts, I mean, we European gamers deserve the same gaming experience as Japanese or American
ones. We deserve a 60 hz option to play the games at full speed/full screen. Staff of my dear
Konami, you stated that Z.O.E was going to be a TRUE next-generation title, well, how can you
deliver to Europe an OLD generation PAL title, with black borders on the screen and a gaming speed
reduced by 17 percent? (this is, delivering a PAL game at 50hz without AT LEAST fully optimising it
for full speed/screen, like many other PS2 games? why no PAL next-gen game? why old boders and slow
again? Most Europeans TVs support 60hz, and, of course, fully speed optimised 50hz games, why did
you deliver a 50hz games without the 60hz option to let us enjoy the FULL experience of Z.O.E? it
costs a lot of money, more money for something of noticeable poorer quality. People in Europe will
start to chip their PS2s and get the NTSC "backups" because here they will not find the TRUE
version of ZOE, just the PAL version. This will mean less people buying original software. Please
Konami, answer to this one because when I run into my room and played the DVD of ZOE PAL I almost
came to tears to see my old "friends", the black borders and the reduction in gaming speed... I
spent a fortune to play a game that was not the Z.O.E in my head, the Z.O.E that was to show the
true capabilities of the PS2, with the all so demanded 60hz option, I thought Konami was to make my
day, to make me glad, I have been buying Konami software since I was 10 (now I am 24, with their
incredible MSX cartridges. Now I feel a bit abandoned in a videogaming scene seeking
speed-to-market but not giving the right stuff to everybody, what made Konami decide not to bring a
full screen/speed game to Europeans gamers? please answer, please why no 60hz again?
SONY!!!! why didn't you ask developers to include a 60hz option before bring to market the PAL
versions???????????????  this is a TRUE NEXT-GENERATION SHAME FOR ALL, I AM GOING TO SELL MY
ORIGINAL COPY OF Z.O.E PAL, CHIP MY PS2 AND GET A "BACKUP" OF THE NTSC VERSION, NO MORE ORIGINAL
SOFTWARE THAT I WILL GET, NEVER MORE PAL TITLES, ALL THANKS TO KONAMI AND SONY AS WELL AS MANY
OTHER BRINGING EUROPEAN GAMERS DOWN, YES, TOMORROW A NEW CHIP WOULD BE THE KING OF MY PS2 PAL, A
CHIP THAT WILL LET ME PLAY GAMES THE WAY THEY ARE, NO MORE BORDERS OR REDUCED SPEED, AND I WILL
SAVE MONEY
YES I AM ANGRY, I have payed a lot for another poor conversion!!!!!!!
I THOUGHT Tekken Tag, Ridge Racer V and, specially SSX, were enough demonstration of BIG POOR PAL
GAMES, and now Konami adds ZOE to the list, NO MORE!! come on please anyone comfort me....  :-( 
must I really get the chip and play non-original but TRUE speed FULL screen software? 
Thanks,
a desperate PAL gamer.

 YES I AM ANGRY, I have payed a lot for another poor conversion!!!!!!!
Pensa quanto rimarrà male quando vedrà che anche i giochi NTSC girano a 50hrz su PS2 PAL...
In effetti, dopo aver giocato con ZOE Jap, quello PAL perde MOLTISSIMO.
                                  STEF
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Gioco della settimana: Phantasy Star Online (Dreamcast)
Retro-divertimento della settimana: Citadel (C64)

My friend,
I played the Japanese version and, hey, 50hz  will always be 50hz,
not only the 60hz version looks and plays faster and very smooth, the control response is more
accurate also. Not to mention the full screen display.
Come on, it is a true shame. I will be getting the NTSC version, a backup ripped CD off the
original DVD for 4my chipped PS2. I dislike piracy, but the 50hz issue gets on my nerves, its
incredible seeing things like these in a "true next-generation machine and games". (SONY should
seriously consider to make it a must to include a 60hz for developers to publish PAL PS2 titles,
otherwise I can almost feel piracy the way it struck the original PSX) 
Regards,
David.

Pensa quanto rimarrà male quando vedrà che anche i giochi NTSC girano a 50hrz su PS2 PAL...
Vuoi dire che se uno si piglia TTT ntsc apposta per giocarselo a 60 Hz
su una ps2 PAL non puo' ? :(
Mattia Cusani
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"That's because...
I am!
A man!
Of the sea!"


Uhm, non credere Stef! Per esempio io prima di acquistare Grandia 2 usa per
dc ho provato la versione rippata e devo dirti che sulla mia console pal i
60Hz c'erano alla grande, infatti le fasce nere non c'erano e la fluidità
era nettamente superiore che usando il gioco originale...
Certo se il gioco ntsc lo prendi originale, i 50 Hz te li prendi alla
grande!!
Ciauz

 su una ps2 PAL non puo' ? :(
Sto ancora dicendo parolacce, in proposito... ^__^
E' proprio la cosa che ho fatto io...
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STEF
Redattore e barbagallo di Nextgame (
www.nextgame.it
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Gioco della settimana: Power Stone 2 (DC)

E' proprio la cosa che ho fatto io...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
In questo momento rinuncio per sempre a TTT. L'ho provato PAL e fa
discretamente PIETA'. Speriamo in soul calibur 2 (e tekken 4?)...
Sigh & Sob
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 Sigh & Sob
Beh, prendere una PS2 NTSC? Io lo farņ...
                                  STEF
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Gioco della settimana: Record Of Lodoss War (Dreamcast)
DVD della settimana: X-Men

Beh, prendere una PS2 NTSC? Io lo farò...
Gia'.. se i soldi me li dai tu... :)
Potebbe essere una soluzione. Di ci che la si trova una ps2 ntsc in
giro ? 
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 giro ?
Si, ma i DVD non ce li vedi...
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 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3ABF4BA3...@flashnet.it...
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 non ci faccio caso) ma sicuramente è più definito, no?
Si. Non è uno schifo-conversione come quella di Tekken 3. Ma non è nemmeno
DOA2...
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 Si. Non č uno schifo-conversione come quella di Tekken 3.
Ovviamente, parlavo di TTT.
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Si, ma i DVD non ce li vedi...
Ma Jappone e Italia non sono della stessa zona ? O e' una questione di
cavi ?
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 cavi ?
Decodifica differente.
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