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I must agree, any Doctor Who shown is better than 
none at all.


 


 FANS UNITE!!!  Any time I can mention the 
words "Doctor Who" I do.


This usually gets a: "Doctor Who? what is 
that?"


 I then proceed to tell them that it was the 
longest running sci-fi show ever.  


 It IS low budget, BUT has great 
stories/writing  (this prepares them for the lack of ILM special 
effects)    :)


 different actors played the same character; 



could travel through Time and Space....which 
means that anything is possible, ect ect.


 


Do some little thing to attract interest..... 
doodle a little TARDIS on a napkin at lunch, design your own Doctor Who logo and 
leave it lying around work for someone to see, ect.   Just get people 
talking about our show.


 


Someday we will rule the world!!!!! (sorry 'bout 
that)


 


-Roger "THE Doctor" Boyes


 


"No Matter Where You Go... There You 
Are"


 


THE Doctor's Domain
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Picture/5472/


 


 


 


 




----- Original Message ----- 


From:


Barry Taylor




To:
 
Multiple 
  recipients of list
 


Sent:
 Thursday, January 27, 2000 8:06 
  PM


Subject:
 JP




I have been reading much of what has been said in 
  the last few days.  I must say that I can't get over the negativity of 
  some of you.  ANY Dr Who is better than none.  Jon Pertwee was my 
  favourite, but I will gladly watch any.


 


The show has a greatness that big budget show 
  only try to capture, and can't.Let's be united and push for it's return or 
  will be destined to live in our memories.


 


JP fan.



I must agree, any Doctor Who shown is better than none at all.
Even if its Paradise Towers / Time and the Rani / Happiness Patrol /
Survival?  Unfortunately, that attitude killed the series off in the
minds of the general public.  
You can have bad stories with any Doctor, but to have so many in one
series of one Doctor is just far too much.
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Not a Sylv fan are you? I quite liked those.
 Try watching those again and comparing them to other crap that is shown on
TV.
A bad Doctor Who is usually better than most Prime Time shows.
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taste.
But its not just that.  The general audience also thought Dr Who was
bad during the late 80s, and said so by not watching.
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 bad during the late 80s, and said so by not watching.
There are far too many factors involved for that to be the reason.  a
general decline in audience, uninvigorated by the BBC, poor scheduling
etc.  The viewing figures for Who remained stable throughout the
seventies despite the fluctuations in quality.
Besides audience figures are hardly ever accurate and I know loads of
people who watched Who throughout the eighties who are not fans and yet
always talk about it with a certain degree of... liking.
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Daniel Harkin - inedible since 1638
http://www.skinandbones.net/darkdeeds
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Well, we seen to debate the relative merrits of Happiness Patrol once every
six months or so.
I truly enjoy this story.  The scene where the Doctor talks to the two
snipers, and says "pull the trigger, end my life", is really quite special.
However, I think the character of Helen A was particularly well done.  Some
of the other characters were fluff (Daisy K, Susie Q), but Helen A and
Priscilla P were both very well done.  They didn't do the over-the-top
madness typically demonstrated in Doctor Who episodes (Prof Zaroff leaps to
mind with "Nothing in zee vorld can shtop me now!") Priscilla P was cold,
but you got glimpses of a really psychotic woman underneath it.  And Helen
A!  The constant smile on her face, the continual insistance that everything
on Terra Alpha was normal:
"Is there something wrong ma'am?"
"No, everything is fine.  I'm happy!"
Well, the line isn't quite right, but her continual insistance that
everything was fine with the news service quoting that 100-something
factories had already fallen to the rebels.
And what's more, they decided to make her somewhat three dimensional.  She
wasn't just doing wrong to take over the universe, she really believed that
what she was doing was right.  "People want to be happy!".  "What about the
death squads, the executions".  "No, they only came afterwards.  I gave them
every opportunity, and yet they still cried, they still wept".  Then the
Doctor asks "what about Love?" and Helen A in perfect form "I always thought
love was overrated"  Brilliant!!  And then comes Fifi's death, and I don't
know if this happens for anyone else, but in an instant, you go from
loathing Helen A, thinking she's a controlling power-mad freak, to a scared
woman who loses her only real friend.
Now, I admit the story isn't perfect.  Susie Q's acting is pretty bad.  The
harmonica player is a bit stereotypical, and (as the discontinuity guide
points out quite rightly) the galactic census of an entier planet is
conducted by one guy walking around asking everybody what their name is?
Not terribly effective.  But other elements just make the story great.  The
Kandyman ("What time do you call this!") and Helen A, and the Doctor does
get to topple the goverment of an entire planet in one night.
I should stop rambling, but I also really like some of the lines:
"What time do you call this?" Kandyman
"I want to make them very unhappy!" Ace
"This isn't a prison, but cross that line and you're a dead man!" Priscilla
P
"I glad you're happy, and I'm happy your glad" Daisy K and Helen A
"Happiness Will Prevail" About a thousand different people.
Anyways, now to fade back into the surroundings...
William
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woman who loses her only real friend.
I didn't care much about it to think that.  Just felt embarassed by
this mess.
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None, they just sit around and wait for it to come back on. 
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Just felt embarassed by this mess.
Can't argue with that.
Can we do Ghost Light next?
Paul
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(re William McBeath's Happiness Patrol msg)
'I can hear the sound of Empires toppling'
yes, I love Happiness Patrol too
great post William :o)
Brax
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Your message was well thought out, but you missed one rather important
(well, to me anyway) point.  Part of the problem is that the fan base
for Dr Who is extremely varied.  And different people watch for very
different reasons. When you add all these variables together, it seems a
wonder to me that any of us agree on anything - other than the fact that
we (generally, anyway) enjoy this show.
And because of these numerous variables, it is rather inevitable that
your favorite show (doctor, companion, etc.) will be the exact same ones
that are the LEAST favorable to others.  The main gist of my entire
posting is not to take criticism of your opinions personally.  Opinions
(by definition) are not facts.  And I think some of us need to re-gain
our sense of humor - just a bit, mind.  I've found the majority of posts
on this list to be fairly generous of other people's points of view.  
As to "Happiness Patrol", well, it isn't one of my favorites.  I think
it appeals to those who like 'film noire' and jazz.  Why I get this
impression, I'm not quite sure.  I know where I get the jazz, and I
think I get the 'film noire' impression because of the stark street
scenes, and the basic feeling of despair which permeates the planet.  I
DO know that my favorite episodes are those in which I can identify with
one of the characters.  Since I've never been able to completely
'connect' with any of the various Doctors or their companions, for me
this involves being able to identify with a 'guest' character - be it
human or not.
And just to add to the controversy,  I think I'm just about the only
person on this planet who is a Dr Who fan who isn't fond of Daleks, or
ANY of the Dalek shows.  For some reason, they rub me the wrong way. 
But I'd never tell people that they are wrong to like the little tin
salt shakers.
Lady C., the Anceunt One
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Why?
because some people are embarrassed by Doctor Who and are overtly sensitive
to the gaudy sets, costumes and make-up. The /reason/ for the costumes and
the makeup and the toy guns is in the script.
Go back, watch it again, and judge it as you would judge a New Adventure.
Brax
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Can we do Ghost Light next?
superb and again much derided by people who deride such things
I want the 71 edit on DVD!
Brax
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time is an illusion that vanishes when deadlines approach
Eye of Orion issue five, details at 
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The Day of the Daleks Convention Nov 2000 
www.phoenix50.com/daleks/
 
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 Galaxy.
Personally, I think Greatest Show In the Galaxy is the *best* McCoy and
I like Delta too. IMNSHO, the 2 worst McCoy episodes are Survival &
Remembrance of the Daleks.
Of course, IMO the worst 2 Who ever are Gunfighters & Talons.
David H Tiffany 
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I doubt if it would make any more sense.
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my heart for them for some unknown reason.
I too have a soft spot for the Cybermen (I spent hours and hours poring over
the David Banks Cyberman book when I was a teen) but I was bitterly
disappointed when I saw them on video
they're rarely written as anything other than Tin Zombies with gold
allergies!
blah!
A decent concept let down by poor execution
Brax
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 allergies!
Which, I hope I'll be excused, I'm taking as opportunity to reproduce a
paragraph from my favourite Who book - The Completely Useless Encyclopedia
by Chris Howarth and Steve Lyons:
GOLD: The problem with scary, invincible monsters like the Cybermen is
that it's hard to get rid of them crediby by the end of part four.
'Revenge of the Cybermen' tackled this problem by giving the cyborg
villains an unexpedted weakness. Gold, apparently, clogs their chestplates
and enough of it can kill them. Fair enough. But successive writers
couldn't leave it there: by 1988, gold had become the Cybermen's
equivalent of a vampire's garlic. Sadly, monsters are neither scary nor
invincible if you can destroy them by bouncing coins off their chest
plates and then watching sixteen of them explode. It's fortunate that the
series ended when it did, as the logical progression of Cyber development
would have seen the monsters fleeing in terror from Spandau Ballet
concerts and being unable to walk into a bank with prolapsing.
and also
GOLD, SIR KEITH: Inferno Project director, and potentially the Cybermen's
greatest enemy.
JP :)
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In a message dated 1/30/00 9:26:22 PM, 
j...@destiny.org.uk
 writes:
<<Which, I hope I'll be excused, I'm taking as opportunity to reproduce a
paragraph from my favourite Who book - The Completely Useless Encyclopedia
by Chris Howarth and Steve Lyons:>>
I'm glad someone else feels this way. I actually list the CUE as one of my 
two or three favorite DW reference books!
Tom Beck
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