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Titolo: Jiddu Krishnamurti y Who Brings the Truth?.

Who Brings the Truth?
By
J. Krishnamurti.
An address delivered at Eerde, the International Headquarters of the
Order of the Star, August 2,1927.
WHEN I began to think for myself, which has been now for some years
past I found myself in revolt. I was not satisfied by any teachings,
by any authority; I wanted to find out for myself what the World-
Teacher meant to me and what the Truth was behind the form of the
World-Teacher. Before I began to think for myself1 before I had the
capacity to think for myself, I took it for granted that I,
Krishnamurti, was the vehicle of the World-Teacher because many people
maintained that it was so. But when I began to think, I wanted to find
out what was meant by the World-Teacher, what was meant by the taking
of a vehicle by the World-Teacher, and what was meant by His
manifestation in the world. I am going to be purposely vague, because
although I could quite easily make it definite, it is not my intention
to do so, because once you define a thing it becomes dead; if you make
a thing definite - at least that is what I maintain -you are trying to
give an interpretation which in the minds of others will take a
definite form and hence they will be bound by that form from which
they will have to liberate themselves.
What I am going to tell you is not on authority, and you must not
obey, but understand. lt is not a question of authority, nor of set
lines which you must follow blindly - that is what most of you are
wanting - you want me to lay down the law, you want me to say: I am so
and so; so that you can say: all right, we will work for you. That is
not the reason why I am explaining, but it is in order that we should
understand each other, that we should help each other. I would make
you see things now which you may see for yourselves, perhaps in this
life or in some future life.
Now, when I was a small boy I used to see Shri Krishna, with the
flute, as He is pictured by the Hindus, because my mother was a
devotee of Shri Krishna. She used to talk to me about Shri Krishna,
and hence I created an image in my mind of Shri Krishna, with the
flute, with all the devotion, all the love, all the songs, all the
delight - you have no idea what a tremendous thing that is for the
boys and girls of India. When I grew older and met with Bishop
Leadbeater and the Theosophical Society. I began to see the Master K.
H. - again in the form which was put before me, the reality from their
point of view - and hence the Master K. H. was to me the end. Later
on, as I grew, I began to see the Lord Maitreya. That was two years
ago, and I saw Him then constantly in the form put before me. I am
telling you all this, not to obtain authority nor to create belief,
but only in order to strengthen your own beliefs, your own hopes, your
own minds and your own hearts. It has been a struggle all the time to
find the Truth, because I was not satisfied by the authority of
another, or the imposition of another, or the enticement of another; I
wanted to discover for myself. and naturally I had to go through
sufferings to find out. Now lately. it has been the Buddha whom I have
been seeing, and it has been my delight and my glory to be with Him. I
have been asked what I mean by "the Beloved" - I will give a meaning,
an explanation, which you will inter-pret as you please. To me it is
all; it is Shri Krishna, it is the Master K. H., it is the Lord
Maitreya, it is the Buddha, and yet it is beyond all these forms. What
does it matter what name you give? You are fighting over the World-
Teacher as a name. The world does not know about the World-Teacher;
some of us know individually; some of us believe on authority; others
have experience of their own, and knowledge of their own. But this is
an individual thing and not a question about which the world will
worry. What you are troubling about is whether there is such a person
as the World-Teacher, who has manifested Himself in the body of a
certain person, Krishnamurti; but in the world nobody will trouble
about this question. So you will see my point of view when I speak of
my Beloved. It is an unfortunate thing that I have to explain, but I
must. I want it to be as vague as possible, and I hope I have made it
so. My Beloved is the open skies, the flower, every human being.
I said to myself: until I become one with all the Teachers, whether
They are the same is not of great importance: whether Shri Krishna,
Christ. the Lord Maitreya, are one is again a matter of no great
consequence. I said to myself: as long as I see Them outside as in a
picture, an objective thing, I am separate, I am away from the centre;
but when I have the capacity, when I have the strength, when I have
the determination, when I am purified and ennobled, then that barrier,
that separation, will disappear. I was not satisfied till that barrier
was broken down, till that separateness was destroyed. Till I was able
to say with certainty, without any undue excitement, or exaggeration
in order to convince others, till I was one with my Beloved, I never
spoke. I talked of vague generalities which everybody wanted. I never
said: I am the World-Teacher: but now that I feel I am one with the
Beloved, I say it - not in order to impress my authority on you, nor
to convince you of my greatness, nor of the greatness of the World-
Teacher, nor even of the beauty of life, the simplicity of life - but
merely to awaken the desire in your own hearts and in your own minds
to seek out the Truth. if I say, and I will say, that I am one with
the Beloved, It is because I feel and know it. I have found what I
longed for, I have become united, so that henceforth there will be no
separation, because my thoughts, my desires, my longings - those of
the individual self - have been destroyed.
Hence I am able to say that I am one with the Beloved - whether you
interpret it as the Buddha, the Lord Maitreya, Shri Krishna, or any
other name.
For sixteen years you have worshipped the picture which has not
spoken, which you have interpreted as you pleased, which has inspired
you, given you tranquility, given you inspiration in moments of
depression. You were able to hold to that picture because that picture
did not speak. it was not alive, there was nothing to be kept alive;
but now that the picture, which you have worshipped, which you have
created for yourselves, which has inspired you, becomes alive and
speaks, you say: Can that picture, which I worshipped, be right? Can
it speak? Has it any authority? Has it the power to represent the
World-Teacher? Has it the magnitude of His wisdom, the greatness of
His compassion, fully developed and can It be manifest in one
individual? These of course are questions which you must solve for
yourselves. You remember the well-known story by Dostoievsky in which
the Christ reappears? He had been preaching and He went at last to
Rome, and the Pope invited Him, and in secrecy fell on his knees and
worshipped and adored Him, but kept Him imprisoned. He said: "We
worship you in secrecy; we admit that you are the Christ; but if you
go outside, you will cause so much trouble; you will create doubts,
when we have tried to quell them."
Now that picture is beginning to get alive, and you cannot have
anything real, you cannot have anything true, which is not alive. You
may worship a tree in the winter-time, but it is much more beautiful
in the spring, when the buds, when the bees and the birds, when all
the worlds, begin to be alive. Through the years of winter you have
been silent and not questioning yourselves very sincerely, it has been
comparatively easy; but now you must decide for yourselves what it all
means. Before, It was easy to say that you expected a World-Teacher
and it meant very little; but now you are face to face with the
problem of that picture coming to life. Whether you are going to
worship continually a mere picture, or worship the reality of that
picture, must. of course, be left to the individual. But do not,
please, try to use your authority to persuade another, as I do not use
mine to convince you of the truth of that picture being alive. To me
It Is alive. Though I used to worship that picture. I was not
satisfied in the mere worshipping; I wanted to find out, to get behind
the frame of that picture, to look through the eyes, think through the
mind, feel through the heart of that picture. I was not satisfied, and
because of my dissatisfaction, because of my discontentment, because
of my sorrows, I was able to identify myself with the picture and
hence I am the picture. There is nothing very complicated about it,
nothing very mysterious, nothing to be excited about in order to
convince others. It is when you are willing to put yourself under some
authority that you will be broken -and quite rightly - because
authority varies from day to day. One day it will be one person,
another day it will be another, and woe to the man that bends to any
or all of them. That is the very thing that we must not have, and
that. Is what you are trying to bring about. You want an authority
that will give you courage, that will make you develop more-fully; but
no external authority will ever give you the power to develop. Whether
the truth which the picture speaks. when it has come to life, is of
importance or not must be examined by yourselves.
It has been my practice to listen to everybody, always. I desired to
learn, from the gardener, from the pariah, from the untouchable, from
my neighbour, from my friend, from everything that could teach, in
order to become one with the Beloved. When I had listened to all, and
gathered the Truth wherever I found it, I was able to develop myself
fully. Now you are waiting for the Truth to come - out of one person;
you are waiting for that Truth to be developed, to be forced upon you
by authority, and you are worshipping that person instead of the
Truth. When Krishnamurti dies, which is inevitable, you will make a
religion, you will set about forming rules in your minds, because the
individual, Krishnamurti, has represented to you the Truth; so you
will build a temple, you will then begin to have ceremonies, to invent
phrases.,dogmas, systems of beliefs, creeds, and to create
philosophies. If you build great foundations upon me, the individual,
you will be caught in that house, in that temple, and so you will have
to have another Teacher to come and extricate you from that temple,
pull you out of that narrowness in order to liberate you; but the
human mind is such that you will build another temple round Him, and
so it will go on and on. But those who understand, who do not depend
on authority, who hold all peoples in their hearts, will not build
temples - they will really understand. It is because a few have truly
desired to help other people, that they have found it simple. Others
who have not understood, although they talk a great deal about it, and
of how they will interpret the teaching, will have difficulties. It is
perfectly simple for me to go out into the world and teach. The people
of the world art not concerned with whether it is a manifestation, or
an in-dwelling, or a visitation into the tabernacle prepared for many
years, or Krishnamurti himself. What they are going to say is: I am
suffering, I have my passing pleasures and changing sorrows; have you
anything lasting to give? You say you have found Happiness and
Liberation; can you give me of that, so that I can enter into your
kingdom, into your world? That is all they are concerned about and not
the badges, the orders, the regulations, the books. They want to see
the living waters that flow under the bridge of human beings, so that
they can swim with those waters into the vast ocean. And what you are
concerned with all the time is how you are going to interpret. You
have not found the Truth for yourselves, you are limited, and yet you
are trying to set other people free. How are you going to do it? How
are you going to discover what is true, what is false, what is the
World-Teacher, what is reality, if you have not cleared the stagnation
from the pool so that it will reflect the Truth?
I have always in this life, and perhaps in past lives, desired one
thing: to escape, to be beyond sorrow, beyond limitations, to dis-
cover my Guru or my Beloved - which is your Guru and your Beloved, the
Guru, the Beloved who exists In everybody, who exists under every
common stone, every blade of grass that is trodden upon. It has been
my desire, my longing, to become united with Him so that I should no
longer feel that I was separate, no longer be a different entity with
a separate self; and when I was able to destroy that self utterly, I
was able to unite myself with my Beloved. Hence, because I have found
my Beloved, my Truth, I want to give it to you.
I am as the flower that gives scent to the morning air; it does not
concern itself with who Is passing by. It gives its scent, and those
who are happy, who are suffering, will breathe that scent; but those
who are contented, who are not longing, who do not care, who have no
idea of the delights of the scent, will pass by unheeding. Are you
going to compel them to stop and breathe that scent? You are concerned
with how you are going to convince them. Why should you convince them?
You will only convince those who are really searching. It is because
you are doubting in your own search, that you are not searching truly;
you are satisfied with your little knowledge, your little authorities.
You want those authorities to speak. to save you from your doubts.
Suppose a certain person was able to tell you that I am the World-
Teacher, in what way would It help, in what way would it alter the
Truth? In what way would understanding come to your heart and
knowledge come to your mind? If you depend on authority, you will be
building your foundations on the sands, and the wave of sorrow will
come and wash them away; but if you build your foundations in stone,
the stone of your own experience, of your own knowledge, of your own
sorrows and your own sufferings. if you are able to build your house
on that, brick by brick, experience upon experience, then you will be
able to convince others. Up till now you have been depending on the
two Protectors of the Order for authority, on someone else to tell you
the Truth, whereas the Truth lies within you. In your own hearts, in
your own experience, you will find the Truth, and that is the only
thing of value. That alone will satisfy your afflictions, that alone
will clear away your sorrows, and that is why I feel I have got to
speak of these things. I could not have said last year, as I can say
now, that I am the Teacher; for had I said it then it would have been
insincere, it would have been untrue. Because I had not then united
the Source and the Goal, I was not able to say that I was the Teacher.
But now I can say it. I have become one with the Beloved, I have been
made simple. I have become glorified because of Him, and because of
Him I can help. My purpose is not to create discussions on authority,
on manifestations in the personality of Krishnamurti, but to give the
waters that shall wash away your sorrows, your petty tyrannies, your
limitations, so that you will be free, so that you will eventually
join that ocean where there, is no limitation, where there is the
Beloved.
I hope I have made it clear; and to the minds that will understand, it
should be clear. The minds and the hearts that have groped, that have
searched, that have longed to find the Truth - they will find it. You
are not going to convince, to alter the mode of life in those who do
not desire to alter; but as I have changed and become one with the
Beloved, as I have found my end, which is the end for all, and as I
have become united with the end, because I have affection - and
without affection you cannot attain the end - because I bear love,
because I have suffered and seen and found all, naturally it is my.
duty, it is my pleasure, my dharma, to give it to those who have not.
Whether I give it through the Order of the Star, or through any other
body, that is of no value. People are not going to be concerned
through what body it comes; they are only going to be satisfied if
their sorrows, their pleasures, their passing vanities, their fleeting
desires, can be killed and a greater thing than these established.
When once you understand the truth of this Liberation and of this
Happiness. it will set you free from yourselves, from all your vani-
ties, pleasures, afflictions and sorrows. As I have attained
Liberation, I want to give of it; but you say: You must give it in a
certain fashion; you must be able to give it in a certain phraseology,
in a certain fashion of language. Does it really matter out of what
glass you drink the water, so long as that water is able to quench
your thirst? Does it really matter who feeds you, so long as by that
food you are satisfied and strengthened? Because you have been
accustomed for centuries to labels, you want life to be labelled. You
want Krishnamurti to be labelled, and in a definite manner, so that
you can say: Now I can under-stand - and then there will be peace
within you. I am afraid it is not going to be that way. Can you bind
the waters of the sea? People have tried, but there is always
disaster. I do not want to be bound, because that means limitation.
You cannot bind the air; you can hold it, you can pollute it, you can
put poison in that air, but the air which is outside, which is for
all, you can never control. I am not going to be bound by anyone; I am
going on my way, because that is the only way. I have found what I
wanted; I have been united with my Beloved, and my Beloved arid I will
wander together the face of the earth.
You will never be able to force people, whatever authority, whatever
dread, whatever threats of damnation you may use. That age is past;
this is an age of revolution and of turmoil; there is a desire to know
everything for oneself, and because you have not that desire inside
you, you are being kept in the world of limitation. You think you have
found, but you have not found. Because you have been made certain in
your little uncertainties, you think you can convert the world.
When the Eiffel Tower was built, it thought itself the most beautiful,
the most wonderful, the highest thing in the world, till a small
aeroplane came flying over it. You are all thinking that you can run
with the deer and roar with the lion, but you can only run with the
deer and roar with the lion when you have become united with the
Beloved. It is no good asking me who is the Beloved. Of what use is
explanation? For you will not understand the Beloved until you are
able to see Him in every animal, in every blade of grass, in every
person that is suffering, in every individual.
So, friends, the only thing that matters is that you should give the
waters that will quench the thirst of the people - the people who are
not here, who are in the world. And the water that will give
satisfaction, that will purify their hearts, ennoble their minds. is
this: the finding of the Truth, and the establishing in their own
minds and in their own hearts of Liberation and Happiness.
http://norea.net/krishnamurti/truth.htm
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visto e considerato che questo è un ng italiano sarebbe auspicabile scrivere 
in italiano