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Titolo: Le societa stanno peggio quando hanno Dio dalla loro parte

Propongo all'ng questo articolo del Times che mi sembra decisamente
interessante
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,171-1798944,00.html
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
RELIGIOUS belief can cause damage to a society, contributing towards high
murder rates, abortion, sexual promiscuity and suicide, according to
research published today.
According to the study, belief in and worship of God are not only
unnecessary for a healthy society but may actually contribute to social
problems.
The study counters the view of believers that religion is necessary to
provide the moral and ethical foundations of a healthy society.
It compares the social peformance of relatively secular countries, such as
Britain, with the US, where the majority believes in a creator rather than
the theory of evolution. Many conservative evangelicals in the US consider
Darwinism to be a social evil, believing that it inspires atheism and
amorality.
Many liberal Christians and believers of other faiths hold that religious
belief is socially beneficial, believing that it helps to lower rates of
violent crime, murder, suicide, sexual promiscuity and abortion. The
benefits of religious belief to a society have been described as its
"spiritual capital". But the study claims that the devotion of many in the
US may actually contribute to its ills.
The paper, published in the Journal of Religion and Society, a US academic
journal, reports: "Many Americans agree that their churchgoing nation is
an exceptional, God-blessed, shining city on the hill that stands as an
impressive example for an increasingly sceptical world.
"In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate
with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD
infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion in the prosperous
democracies.
"The United States is almost always the most dysfunctional of the
developing democracies, sometimes spectacularly so."
Gregory Paul, the author of the study and a social scientist, used data
from the International Social Survey Programme, Gallup and other research
bodies to reach his conclusions.
He compared social indicators such as murder rates, abortion, suicide and
teenage pregnancy.
The study concluded that the US was the world's only prosperous democracy
where murder rates were still high, and that the least devout nations were
the least dysfunctional. Mr Paul said that rates of gonorrhoea in
adolescents in the US were up to 300 times higher than in less devout
democratic countries. The US also suffered from " uniquely high"
adolescent and adult syphilis infection rates, and adolescent abortion
rates, the study suggested.
Mr Paul said: "The study shows that England, despite the social ills it
has, is actually performing a good deal better than the USA in most
indicators, even though it is now a much less religious nation than
America."
He said that the disparity was even greater when the US was compared with
other countries, including France, Japan and the Scandinavian countries.
These nations had been the most successful in reducing murder rates, early
mortality, sexually transmitted diseases and abortion, he added.
Mr Paul delayed releasing the study until now because of Hurricane
Katrina. He said that the evidence accumulated by a number of different
studies suggested that religion might actually contribute to social ills.
"I suspect that Europeans are increasingly repelled by the poor societal
performance of the Christian states," he added.
He said that most Western nations would become more religious only if the
theory of evolution could be overturned and the existence of God
scientifically proven. Likewise, the theory of evolution would not enjoy
majority support in the US unless there was a marked decline in religious
belief, Mr Paul said.
"The non-religious, proevolution democracies contradict the dictum that a
society cannot enjoy good conditions unless most citizens ardently believe
in a moral creator.
"The widely held fear that a Godless citizenry must experience societal
disaster is therefore refuted."
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"Il mondo non ha bisogno di dogmi ma di libera ricerca." (Bertrand Russel)

 interessante
Diciamo che le societa' stanno meglio quando sono chiamate COMUNITA'.
La parola COMUNITA' fa paura ai politici perche' ricorda loro che noi
siamo degli individui che formiamo una societa' solo perche' abbiamo una
convergenza di interessi in comune, ma che l'interesse comune deve essere
anche mio, senno' smetto di far parte di quella comunita'.
Molto meglio allora sostituire il termine comunita' con quello di clan, di
popolo, di nazione, dove il rapporto fine mezzo si ribalta completamente.
Ma questo avviene anche per la contrapposizione tra CONVIVENZA e
MATRIMONIO.
Di solito le convivenze durano mentre i matrimoni, dove entra Dio o lo
Stato, dei tabu' insomma, no.
Perche' gli individui smettono di avere dei diritti e degli interessi tra
i quali quelli in comune con gli altri.
Ma infine un altro motivo di crisi delle societa' e' l'autosufficienza
dell'individuo data dalla societa' medesima.
Allora le societa', ad esempio le democrazie ricche, scivolano verso la
dittatura perche' i cittadini non hanno piu' interessi avendo gia' tutti,
e quindi neppure interessi in comune e va a ramengo la comunita'.
Oppure i paesini quando tutti hanno l'auto che un tempo non avevano.
-- 
MAI PIU' VETRINE INFRANTE (1938), MAI PIU' MURI DA ABBATTERE (1989)
MAI PIU' 9 NOVEMBRE!!!
9 NOVEMBRE: FESTA DELLA LIBERTA' PER SEMPRE, PERCHE' LA LIBERTA' NON
CRESCE SUGLI ALBERI.
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È proprio vero, si stava meglio quando si stava peggio...
A. C.
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 È proprio vero, si stava meglio quando si stava peggio...
...e le mezze stagioni? Non ci sono piùùùùùùùù

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 Sģģģģģģģģģģģ, č VEEEROOOOOO!!!
Perņ attento, i luoghi comuni sono brutti posti e poi...
il diavolo fa le pentole ma non i coperchi...
chissą come va a finire?
Andate andate, chi lo sa se poi tornate...
mah...
Va be' finimņla,
"Ajutati che il ciel t'ajuta"... che č come dire, dio non c'č, quindi ti
devi dar da fare tutto da solo, e se poi le cose sono andate bene, puoi
anche crogiolarti con l'idea che ti ha ajutato il Grande Fratello del
cielo...
Res tene, dei seguitur si potrebbe dir in latino maccheronico.
HamLet.

 la briscola..."
Che ci vuoi fare, uno si adatta al livello del contesto... ;-)
Saluti
A. C. 

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e quando il QI arriva sopra i 70 tu come fai?