Newsgroup: it.cultura.fantascienza
Titolo: Terrorismo

Questa e' finora l'analisi migliore delle possibilita' che ho letto.
E' presente su Ha'aretz, un quotidiano israeliano.
Io la trovo interessante, cosě ve la giro.
Visto che e' difficile parlare d'altro, visto che siamo tutti sotto
shock, credo che far girare un po' di informazioni possa essere utile.
Massimo aka Byron
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For a concerted onslaught on America, one terrorist organization,
acting alone, is not enough 
 
By Zvi Bar-El, Ha'aretz Correspondent 
 
One organization alone would find it very difficult to execute a
coordinated operation including not only the hijacking of four
airliners, and crashing them into designated targets, but also
gathering all the required intelligence on the airports and airlines,
and enlisting the right personnel in the U.S. - if one assumes that
the organization would not send foreigners to the United States for
fear of their being caught. 
Moreover, the attack's organizers smuggled weapons aboard the
jetliners, and carried out everything at once. 
A Jordanian official, proposing a formula for sifting those
responsible for the attacks in the United States, remarks: "It's
worthwhile paying attention to those who flee the accusations, and in
what manner." 
"The Democratic Front (for the Liberation of Palestine) went into
palpitations when it first heard the allegations that it was behind
the terrorist acts. Its people left no phone uncalled to declare and
explain that they no longer do those kinds of attacks. Also the Hamas
is apparently uninvolved, at least those who live in Israel and
Jordan," he says. 
On the assumption that it was an Islamic or Arab group that
perpetrated the attack (and not one of the organizations behind the
demonstrations against globalization), the distinction that must be
made, in his view, is between those Islamic organizations with direct
arguments with the rulers under which they are operating, and those
who have beefs with the United States. 
"Extremist Muslim groups in Egypt, Algiera and Tunisia do have an
'agenda' of Islamizing the world and instituting Islamic law, abut
they must first succeed in surviving in their own countries. Their
order of priorities does not include America." 
The second list encompasses "mixed" groups, those who have direct
grievances with the United States, or who oppose its unflagging
support of Israel. But these, too, must answer first and foremost to
the countries in which they live. Hezbollah, the rekectionist
Palestinian groups, and the Hamas are examples of such factions. 
The highest order of probablity lies with groups who view harming the
United States as their reasaon for being, or who view such attacks as
a vital means for changing the world order - or at the very least, for
ousting America from the Middle East. This list includes Islamic
organizations such as those operating in Saudi Arabia and have already
struck at U.S. military targets, extemist groups operating in Yemen,
Muslim groups who were harmed by American involvement in the Balkans,
and what is customarily referred to as the Osama Bin Laden
organization. 
Osama Bin Laden is not a terror organization, but rather a
manufacturer of organizations. He finances some of the training of
volunteers from throughout the world who journey to Afganistan, which
had already turned into a school for terrorism before the Taliban
seized control. In fact, Saudi multi-millionaire Bin Laden, started
out in Afganistan as the American's partner, funding the Afganis'
struggle against the Soviet occupation. 
In any event, Afganistan continues to supply training camps for terror
organizations, some under Bin Laden's patronage, others who pay their
own way in sending their 'campers' to Afganistan. All who finish the
camp training are accorded the designation of "Afganistan graduates." 
If a series of attacks like the Tuesday offensive required dozens of
people, then the list of organizations who could have carried it out
should be accompanied by a list of nations who are likely to have
aided them. 
Again, acting on the unproven assumption that Islamic or Arab groups
were responsible, there are three nations with the necessary potential
to grant such help, in other words, countries with the requisite
capability and motivation: 
- Afganistan, which has a diplomatic delegation, and therefore the
ability to supply logistical and intelligence support to a group
aiming to attack American targets. It also has the motivation to aid
such an act against a Christian country who has imposed sanctions
against it. 
- Iraq, whose motivation needs no explanation, but whose ability to
aid such an operation in the United States is doubtful. 
- Libya, who may wish to avenge years of sanctions. 
It is difficult to view Shi'ite Iran as cooperating to that degree
with the Sunni Bin Laden. 
But in the range of possibilities, a brace of conspiracy theories that
have begun to circulate should not be dismissed. 
Is it beyond the realm of possibility that Iran and Hizbollah might
carry out such an attack? Hizbollah, after all, demonstrated its
abilities in the Buenos Aires bombing. Could it be that Iraq, acting
together with a Palestinian faction, executed the attacks? 
The possible number of combinations is infinite, and what appears
illogical may not necessarily be incorrect.
-- 
"When did the future switch from being a promise to being a threat?"
...la fantasia al potere!

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:29:34 GMT, 
max-...@libero.it
 (Massimo) wrote:
Do anche questo URL, che mi sembra interessante, se non altro perche'
sono notizie che in Italia non ho ancora sentito riportare.
E' un articolo di "The Times of India", uno dei piu' autorevoli
giornali indiani.
Taliban want proof before extraditing bin Laden 
http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1618392009
Massimo aka Byron
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illogical may not necessarily be incorrect.
L'articolo e' molto interessante. La conclusione da' i brividi
(soprattutto se si inseriscono nel contesto anche i movimenti non
islamici e genericamente anti-americani o anti-capitalistici).
ciao
Fritz

giornali indiani.
Niente da fare, i Talebani hanno smentito che bin Laden sia agli
arresti domicialiari.
Intanto vi consiglio di dare ogni tanto uno sguardo al sito dei
Talebani ( 
www.taleban.com
 ), pare che gli hacker si stiano
divertendo...
Tra l'altro e' un sito che e' registrato a NY, non molto lontano dal
WTC...
Girando un po', con le notizie che circolano, sembra che ci sia
qualcosa di grosso sul punto di emergere. Non so di cosa si tratti, ma
nelle prossime ore mi aspetto qualche sorpresa.
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divertendo...
Ma come? Tipi come loro che sparano sui televisori perche' dicono "Non
e' roba di Allah" fanno anche i siti internet???????????
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 "Non e' roba di Allah" fanno anche i siti internet???
al momento questa vaga forma di incoerenza mi pare l'ultimo dei loro 
problemi ideologici...
-- 
Gorgon

divertendo...
Puo' essere: ho appena provato e mi e' comparsa la scritta:
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ciao
Fritz