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Titolo: [OT] Hamma Hammami

Poiche' vi avevo fatto cenno della sua detenzione vale la pena comunicarvi
che sara' prossimamente liberato (liberta' condizionata ma comunque sara'
fuori dalla prigione) per ragioni di salute. A volte "rompere" chiedendo
sembra servire :-)
Baci
Enrica

Io invece volevo far presente quanto segue:
http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/cubanolibre4898.html
, giusto perché le capriole di
felicità che state facendo per Hamma Hammami non vi facciano dimenticare
altre persone imprigionate i cui diritti umani sono ampiamente trascurati
semplicemente per la loro opinione. Sono o no un cazzo di troll?
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 semplicemente per la loro opinione. Sono o no un cazzo di troll?
Per questo? No, non lo sei. Ricordarli *tutti/e*, ovunque,  e' esattamente
quello che spero e desidero io. Scusa se puntualizzo, sicuramente non mi
conosci, non mi importa quali opinioni ha Hammami (per me potrebbe aver
detto che la luna e' fatta di formaggio) ma quello che gli hanno fatto e il
perche'. Mi dispiace averti dato l'impressione di una mia vista cosi
limitata, il mio messaggio era esattamente quello che appariva, cenno a
qualcuno perche' vi avevo accennato tempo fa. Una buona notizia contrapposta
a un'antecedente cattiva.
Ciao
Enrica (sto per "staccare" dal NG qualche giorno, se ci saranno tuoi
messaggi o d'altri a cui dare risposta lo chiedero' a Google al ritorno)

 no un cazzo di troll?
Magari dando riferimenti meno parziali (nel senso "di parte") lo 
saresti molto meno :-)
http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/amr/cuba!Open
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Saluti,
Giancarlo


Estratto dal link da te postato, naturalmente sono di parte anche quelli di
Amnesty:
Prisoners of conscience
The Cuban state continued to imprison critics for the peaceful exercise of
their rights to freedom of expression, assembly and association. Limitations
on these fundamental freedoms remained codified in Cuban law. A number of
releases raised hopes that Cuba might be easing these restrictions and
bringing its laws and practices into line with international standards.
However, new arrests indicated that such hopes were premature. At the end of
2001 at least seven prisoners of conscience were held in Cuba.
In May, José Orlando González Bridón, Secretary General of the Confederación
de Trabajadores Democráticos de Cuba, Cuban Confederation of Democratic
Workers, was sentenced to two years' imprisonment for ''spreading false news
against international peace''. This was apparently in retaliation for an
article he wrote accusing the authorities of negligence in a domestic
violence case. In September his sentence was reduced to one year by the
highest court in Cuba, and he was released in November.
Detention without trial
A number of dissidents were held in detention for several months without
trial before being released. They were prisoners of conscience.
Trade unionist Pedro Pablo Alvarez Ramos, General Secretary of the Consejo
Unitario de Trabajadores Cubanos (CUTC), United Cuban Workers Council, was
released in January after three months in prison without trial. He had been
arrested in October 2000 by state security agents, apparently to prevent him
from participating in the first national convention of the CUTC on 20 and 21
October 2000. Several other prominent trade unionists were briefly detained
before the convention.
Leonardo Miguel Bruzón Avila was detained in December 2000 during a wave of
arrests intended to prevent dissidents from participating in activities to
commemorate the 52nd anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human
Rights. Leonardo Bruzón, president of the Movimiento Pro Derechos Humanos 24
de Febrero, 24 February Human Rights Movement, was reportedly held in the
Technical Investigations Department, where he said he was handcuffed to the
bars of a punishment cell while standing almost knee-high in water for four
days. He was released on 1 February. He was rearrested in September after
opening an ''independent library'' for children in his home; his family was
threatened with eviction. He was released without charge after four days.
Continuing harassment of dissidents
The Cuban authorities continued to try to discourage dissent by harassing
suspected critics of the government. Suspected dissidents were subjected to
short-term detention, frequent summonses, threats, eviction, loss of
employment and restrictions on movement. Harassment was at times carried out
by state security agents or police officers, as well as by members of local
groups such as the Brigadas de Respuesta Rápida, Rapid Response Brigades, or
the Comités de Defensa de la Revolución, Committees for the Defence of the
Revolution, set up in 1991 and 1960 respectively to discourage crime and
dissident activities.
There were several incidents of verbal assaults against dissidents, most
often by unidentified attackers. In some cases the homes of suspected
dissidents were attacked by individuals throwing rocks or bottles, and in a
few instances dissidents were said to have been punched or kicked by
unidentified assailants in attacks that they believed were related to their
political views or activities.
Rafael León Rodríguez, coordinator of the Proyecto Demócrata Cubano, Cuban
Democratic Project, one of the organizations belonging to the Mesa de
Reflexión de la Oposición Moderada, Table of Reflection of the Moderate
Opposition, was reportedly evicted from his home in July following an
apparent bureaucratic error. In spite of protests, Rafael León Rodríguez'
home and belongings had not been returned to him by the end of the year.
This led to concerns that the move was intended as punishment for his
dissident activities.
Activists attempting to collect signatures for the Proyecto Varela, a
petition for a referendum on legal reform, were subjected to threats,
short-term detention, summonses, confiscation of materials and other forms
of harassment by state security agents, police and other officials in a
number of locations. At the end of November project organizers reported that
they had collected over 2,500 voters' signatures; the law requires 10,000
signatures in order for a referendum to be held.
Death penalty
There were indications of a change in government policy on executions; no
executions were reported to have been carried out in 2001. However, the
death penalty was not legally abolished and in December the legislature
reportedly reaffirmed its use against those convicted of the crime of
''terrorism'', the definition of which was said to have been expanded under
new legal provisions. Courts continued to hand down death sentences.
According to the Comisión Cubana de Derechos Humanos y Reconciliación
Nacional, Cuban Commission for Human Rights and National Reconciliation, a
non-governmental organization, approximately 50 prisoners remained on death
row at the end of 2001.
E ancora: 
http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/Recent/AMR250062001!Open
 Sempre
fonte Amnesty.
Io sono molto più troll di The Horus.

 quelli di Amnesty:
Certo che sono di parte, sono dalla parte dei diritti umani ;-)
PS: che ragione c'era di cut&paste-are tutto il testo?
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Saluti,
Giancarlo


Ho avuto la sensazione/certezza che tu non avessi letto tutto. Tutto qui.

 qui.
Perche seconde te se non avevo letto la avrei letto qui?
-- 
Saluti,
Giancarlo

Io sono molto più troll di The Horus.
:-)
Ah, non c'è dubbio.
No ma questo tipo di trollaggio è ampiamente tollerato, su questo NG.
Basta che sia OT :-)

Perche seconde te se non avevo letto la avrei letto qui?
rotfl
Prenditi due settimane di ferie, Giancarlo.

 Perche seconde te se non avevo letto la avrei letto qui?
Povera grammatica/sintassi italiana.

 Povera grammatica/sintassi italiana.
Io non scrivo in italiano lo sapete.
Comunque quello che veramente non sopporto e' il costante svicolare 
dalle questioni, il portare sempre le discussioni sul vano, sulla 
forma, sulla presa in giro dell'altro.
Con te/voi povera la logica, povero il buon senso, povero il rispetto 
di quello che dicono gli altri. Rispondi alle domande invece si 
cambiare discorso. 
E il bello lo sai qual'e'? che poi sono io quello che non rispetta gli 
altri, sono io che non voglio ascoltare le opinioni differenti, sono io 
il supponente che ha sempre ragione.
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Saluti,
Giancarlo

 il supponente che ha sempre ragione.
Giancarlo.... QUAL È, senza APOSTROFO. Ficcatelo in testa, non è mai troppo
tardi.

 Io sono "SUPERTROLL", mi spiego? SUPERTROLL.
Benissimo, vuol dire che smettero' di trattarti da essere umano.
-- 
Saluti,
Giancarlo


Aserejé, ja deje tejebe tude jebere
sebiunouba majabi an de bugui an de buididipí

 
Smettessi di trattarlo e basta, io personalmente sarei più contento.
-- 
Giovanni
When I die I want to donate my body to science fiction.
(Steven Wright)

 Io non scrivo in italiano lo sapete.
Gianca', prendilo per il culo per email, lui si incazza perche' non gli rispondono sul
gruppo e tu ti diverti.
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