Newsgroup: it.scienza.biologia
Titolo: [OT] la guerra nel Caucaso (in inglese)

salve a tutti,
ho ricevuto questa mail da un mio amico, David Tarkhnishvili, uno 
zoologo che vive a Tbilisi (a due passi dal Parlamento, in una casa già 
lesionata dal terremoto del 2002...) e credo sia una lettura importante, 
anche perché il punto di vista è un po' diverso da quello dei nostri 
media, ma di qualcuno che tutti gli avvenimenti degli ultimi 20 anni li 
ha vissuti sulla sua pelle.
Speriamo in bene!
Stefano
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Please distribute this information as wide as possible
You probably already heared about heavy fights going on in Georgia,
where the country tries to stop invaded Russian troops and bombing of
Georgian towns and cities.
I would like to provide you with additional information for better
understanding of what is going on, because western media commonly
provides biased information copied from Russian media sources.
1. Russian preparations. There were repeated attempts to explore the
situation in both Georgian conflict regions during the last four
years. Usually these were bombings of Georgian villages or police
stations near the conflict regions by "separatists" but obviously
directed by Russian forces based in the regions since 1992. After some
European countries blocked providing of MAP to Georgia and Ukraine,
Russia openly declared that Georgia and Ukraine will "commit
problems". During the Russian military trainings in the northern
Caucasus last July, the leaflets were spread among Russian soldiers
with description of a negative image of Georgian soldier, the main
potential enemy.
2. Situation in the conflict region of South Ossetia. Reading existent
information sources, one can gain an impression that Georgia tried to
invade the breakout region for recovering the central power (although
legal, but somewhat questionable attempt), and Russians were just
answering this with military power. I then must briefly explain the
situation prior to the war. The conflict region is a small area at the
southern slopes of the Great Caucasus, with the total population of
70,000, approximately 50% of that are ethnic Ossetians and another 50%
- ethnic Georgians, the groups very close culturally and historically.
The capital town Tskhinvali has a population of ca. 20,000. By the end
of the conflict of 1991, Georgia retained its control over
approximately half of the region, mostly parts were Georgian or mixed
villages dominate (including the area just around Tskhinvali) but also
an important part of Ossetian villages, and these parts were fully
integrated in the rest of the country without any time gap. Similar
situation exists in Abkhazia, where albeit lesser (ca. 15%) mountain
part is controlled by the central government.
3. The situation prior to the war. Wide-scaled provocations have
started since beginning of July, where positions of "separatists" (in
fact Russian paramilitary troops) started bombing of large Georgian
villages around Tskhinvali. This provoked backfire from Georgian
military based near the villages. At 6th of August the paramilitaries
backed by Russian "peacekeepers" started to attack the Georgian
villages, with a clear aim to withdraw Georgians and spread Russian
power over the areas currently controlled by the country. Saakashvili,
Georgian president, tried to ceasfire afternoon 06 August, but this
was followed by activation of the attack on the Georgia-controlled
part of the region. Simultaneously, Russian tanks started to invade
the region from north, via Roki tunnel passing through the Greater
Caucasus Mountains. Georgian government had just no way but starting
the offensive on the paramilitary fire positions and, eventually,
Tskhinvali town.
4. Russians, after several hours, invaded large military groups with
heavy weapons, and started to bomb Georgian infrastructure. Thus
Georgian troops had already to face regular Russian military forces.
5. Since 8th August, Russian military plains started to bomb Georgian
infrastructure throughout the entire country and civil objects. The
Georgian towns and objects bombed: - Gori (ca. 40,000 population),
both military objects and living appartments bombed, bombings multiple
and especially heavy as of 9th August, 55 civil dead for two days;
- Poti town (ca. 30,000), Georgian only large port; multiple civil 
casualties;
- Marneuli town/airport (ca. 70,000);
- Senaki (ca. 10,000) (railway station/civil buildings)
-Oni (ca 10,000)
-Tbilisi (Vaziani military base and surrounding area)
- Kutaisi (second largest city of Georgia, ca. 300,000), the
airport/surrounding appartments;
- Parts of Abkhazia controlled by the central government, high
mountain villages;
- currently the information comes that the Russians plant to bomb
Batumi international airport.
Georgian troops, according to the official reports, shot down 10
Russian plains since last two days, including strategic bombarder
TU-22 and smaller military plains SU-25 and SU-27. The pilots were
shown on TV and currently questioned.
Russians move to the Georgian coast large military vessels.
Paramilitary groups in Abkhazia tried to take control over Upper
Abkhazia but failed.
Tskhinvali is a subject of heavy battles between regular troops of
Georgia and 58 army of Russia. Georgia yet cannot control
strategically important Roki tunnel, although effectively controls
largest part of the conflict epicenter. We here have little doubts
that if Russians take over, they won't stop and will occupy Georgia
and pose the puppy government in the country, moreover, split it in
several parts as a potentially dangerous for "Russian geopolitical
interests".
Therefore Georgians try to stay strong, and resist bombings and
casualties. However the time to resist is limited, because Russian
military machine is quite big. In this case the invaders will success,
and there is little doubt that they will continue - first Ukraine,
than the other countries they assume their "natural sphere of
interests", from Poland and Finland eastwards.
It is critically important that the international community intervenes
in that or another way. Starting from diplomatic efforts and finishing
with providing anti-aircraft weapons to Georgian Army.

 Speriamo in bene!
hai fatto bene a postare, anche se OT. Qui in UK la tv passa mezz'ora di
intervista all'ambasciatore russo all'ONU e 30 secondi di discorso del
presidente georgiano, tanto per dirne una...
magari postala anche su it.politica.internazionale, anche se e' un covo
di troll un po' di gente che ragiona c'e'.
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sotto la luna colora di blu
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Nessuno sembra farci caso, ma IMHO questo e' collegato alla frase 
dell'attuale presidente russo, di un paio di mesi fa : 'gli USA stanno 
occupando nel mondo una posizione che non gli compete'.

 di troll un po' di gente che ragiona c'e'.
no, sono in partenza e non penso di postarla altrove (specialmente se 
infestato da troll, a differenza del club di gentleman che è isb :-).
ciao
S

 Speriamo in bene!
Grazie per aver riportato questa testimonianza, anche io  ho notato che in 
Italia i media sono filo-russi.
Se penso alle stragi compiuti dall'esercito russo durante la prima e seconda 
guerra cecena capisco perchè i Georgiani sono cosi motivati dal difendersi 
dagli invasori.
E' triste constatare l'assenza di una forte risposta dell'Europa a questa 
guerra, ancora una volta l'Europa dimostra di NON avere una politica estera.
P.S.
Sono appena andato sul sito di "La Repubblica" per avere aggiornamenti sulla 
guerra:
- al primo posto c'è la notizia di alcuni coglioni che si sono spiaccicati 
con l'auto
- al secondo posto ci sono i risultati sportivi di Berlino '36 (ops, 
scusate, volevo dire Pechino '08)
- infine, ormai caduto nel dimenticatoio al terzo posto, c'è la guerra in 
Georgia
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     Ciao
                    DOC
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