Newsgroup: it.hobby.motociclismo
Titolo: Uso della frizione.

Ciao,
Ieri, durante il GP, hanno inquadrato la mano sx di Capirossi.
Lui, come gli altri, ovviamente, usa la frizione solo per scalare, mai per 
salire di rapporto.
Devo ammettere che anche io, a volte, NON uso la frizione per salire di 
marcia.
Spesso entrano meglio cosě che con la frizione... :-)
Voi che fate?
La usate sempre 'sta frizione?
Ciao,Matteo.
P.S.
L'ho detto stamattina: oggi č venerdě.
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Spesso entrano meglio cosě che con la frizione... :-)
tamarro....pensare che poi rompi agli altri perche' dici che
strapazzano la catena... (te che vai col cardano) :P
Sign:
Hornet...sempre meglio di uno sputer
2001 - miglior annata 

 dici che strapazzano la catena...
Basta, imho, usarla nel passaggio prima-seconda, poi se ne puň fare a meno.
IMHO.
Cmq, non preoccuparti della catena: mercoledě ti strappo via pure quella... 
AHAHAHAH!
Ciao,Matteo.


 e allora il post non va bene, č IT!
Con te non ci gioco piů.
Uffa.
:-)
Ciao,Matteo.
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 La usate sempre 'sta frizione?
Io molto spesso no. E' molto più veloce rilasciare per un picosecondo la 
manetta e nel mentre dare una pedata in su, piuttosto che fare tutto il 
traffico con la frizione.
Ma ovviamente dipende dall'andatura e dal ritmo che sto tenendo.
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	Ricetta.
	Dissossate la verità per cucinarla meglio.
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AHAHAHAH!
argh, ora che mi ci fai pensare, Theos mi disse qualcosa sulla CCP,
tipo stringere qualche dado, o allentare qualche dado, boh ce ne son
6, faccio 3 stringi e 3 allenta :)
Forse e' meglio che inizi ad alleggerire li cancello prima di venire,
che ne so, togligli le carene, prendi 2 piccioni con un botto solo,
alleggerisci la moto, e eviti di dover andare dal carrozziere a
rimettere il colore :DD


 rimettere il colore :DD
Te ne sai qualcosa, eh...!?
:-)
Ciao,Matteo.
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 Ma ovviamente dipende dall'andatura e dal ritmo che sto tenendo.
Si, sto parlando di utilizzo "blando", il tragitto casa-lavoro, per esempio.
Ciao,Matteo.
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 tanto ora salto in sella!
Ti facevo più alto...
Ciao,Matteo.
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 La usate sempre 'sta frizione?
Io la uso assolutamente sempre, sia per salire che per scalare le 
marce.
E' una cosa cosi' automatica che non me ne accorgo neppure che lo sto 
facendo.
-- 
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on Kawasaki Ninja 636 "Mandy"
&   Honda Deauville a la crème "La Bionda"
Nessuno merita lodi per la sua bontà, se non ha la forza per essere 
cattivo.
(cit.)

 Si, sto parlando di utilizzo "blando", il tragitto casa-lavoro, per esempio.
Si, ANCHE in quell'occasione :)
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	E' nato prima l'eseguibile o il compilatore?!?

 E' una cosa cosi' automatica che (cut)
Vero.
Solo che una volta, per prova, ho fatto a meno di usarla e ho notato che con 
un minimo di "orecchio" le marce entrano quasi meglio...
:-)
Ciao,Matteo.
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 (con MOOOOLTA attenzione..)
Ciao, potresti spiegarti meglio?!
Grazie
Paolo 

IMHO.
questa non l'avevo vista
cioe' tu quindi non te ne accorgi nemmeno, la prima non la usi :PPP
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 cioe' tu quindi non te ne accorgi nemmeno, la prima non la usi :PPP
Non l'ho mai usata, domenica scorsa, per non umiliarti, ma se insisti... :-)
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 Ciao, potresti spiegarti meglio?!
Se scali di una marcia, il rilascio della frizione non è sempre 
necessario sia graduale.. ma quando le marce scalate sono due o PIU' di 
due, il freno motore (soprattutto dei bici o peggio ancora dei mono) 
rischierebbe di frenarmi troppo la ruota e quindi di farmela slittare o 
saltellare (non essendo io dotato di frizione altisaltellamento). Per 
questo, quando rilascio la frizione dopo una scalata decisa, lo faccio 
con molta progressività.
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		Luca Amicone
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		-- Totò

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Mah, alla prima lezione di guida l'istruttore (sardomobile 15 anni fa) mi
disse che per cambiare le marce si usa la frizione.
Da allora è sempre stato così per me. IKnfatti se qualche volta ti scappa la
mano più veloce del piede allora il cambio gratta.
Mio padre mi disse che è possibile, cambiare senza uso della frizione, ma
difficile e se uno non è "capace di farlo", rischia di rovinare il cambio.
Ogni tanto sento qualche "smanettone" che dice di saperlo fare o di farlo.
Quell'unica volta che ho provato, su una mia quasi ex-auto che stavo
portando in demolizione, ha grattato che poi ho dovuto usare la frizione.
Ok, non sono "smanettone", forse non conosco la tecnica corretta.
Non ho mai avuto il coraggio (mancando anche preparazione teorica) di
sperimentare (e credo mai lo farò) un'azione del genere su un'auto / moto
"funzionante" perchè non ho soldi da spendere in costose riparazioni del
cambio. Però ho una grossa curiosità scientifica verso la questione.
1) come può essere che un comportamento "non naturale" (cioè che non si
impara a scuola guida) diventi naturale in molti (tipo Priano).
2) Quali sono i vantaggi del cambiare senza uso della frizione?
3) Qual'è la tecnica corretta per farlo senza scassare tutto?? Si fa a
salire o a scaleare?? Esattamente come?? Rischi reali per una cattiva
esecuzione??
Con serena e sincera niubbaggine... GRAZIE!!
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 Rischi reali per una cattiva esecuzione??
Si rovinano i dentini degli ingranaggi del cambio.
Ciao,Matteo.
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 esecuzione??
A salire... dovresti arrivare ad un regime ottimale, molalre il gas e 
cambiare.
Anzi.. se tieni la pedalina leggermente puntata a acceleri con un pelo di ga 
quando arriva il regima giusto la marcia piu' alta entra a volte entra da 
sola :-)
io cambiavo senza frizione pure sulla vespa :-)
-- 
maz

 Beh, se sei come Priano sei molto innaturale ;-P
Però, di solito, se la mia ragazza vuol trombare, smetto di guardare la TV, 
io...!
:-)
Ciao,Matteo.
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 la TV, io...!
:-P
scribb: alla prossima occasione riempire di botte priano.
-- 
maz

 scribb: alla prossima occasione riempire di botte priano.
LOL
Scrib: alla prima occasione, stare lontano da maz... vabbč... č facile: č 
fermo...!
:-)
Ciao,Matteo.
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Ok, curiosità scientifica soddisfatta, continuerò a cambiare CON l'uso della
frizione!!
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 per velocizzare il tutto (cut)
Sei proprio fermo, eh...


 a piedi...
Anche?
Ciao,Matteo.
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 senza usare la frizione.... ed è colpa tua!
LOL
Simpatico, eh?
Ciao,Matteo.
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Il significato del mio no è lo stesso del tuo si
(cit. Theos) 

 però alla fine è più fluido se la usi.
Se non sei capace si.


 si nota di piů il rilascio del gas.
Che cavolo stai dicendo, Alty? (semicit.)
Ora devo andar via, se ne riparla oggi.
Ciao,Matteo.
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(cit. Theos) 

 La usate sempre 'sta frizione?
io non la uso quando c'č qualche strombolo  (solitamente hanno la hornet )
al semaforo che vuole farmi vedere che la sua "va piů forte della mia"
..............
oppure sgaso sgaso col rosso ....e poi faccio la finta e vado a 40 mentre il
tipo da solo e contento a momenti si spetascia contro il primo sardofermone
100 mentri piů avanti

 con molta progressività.
Successo anche a me col "quattro" testimone 4dee che mi era dietro a
scendere da Monebove ... inavvertitamente pigiando troppo bruscamente
con lo stivale invece di fare un semplice 4^ 3^ ho fatto 4^3^2^ in un
colpo solo ... meno male che me ne sono accorto a "orecchio" e ho avuto
la freddezza di rilasciare in più fasi la frizione e nonostante tutto,
avendo anche un pò pinzato con l'anteriore,  la ruota dietro si è
sollevata prima di un tornantino ...  avendo giusto il tempo di far
riappoggiare la gomma ed effettuare la "piega".
Greg

 se mi trovi...
Basta che cerco nei miei specchietti.
Ti vedo piccolo e in allontanamento, ma ti vedo.
Ciao,Matteo.
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Per scrivermi sostituisci 
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(cit. Theos) 

 aspetta solo un attimo, ti sto doppiando...
E' quello che ti lascio credere.


 non le vedi le bandiere? sono blu.
Ovvio, l'Italia ha vinto i mondiali.
Ciao,Matteo.
--
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