Newsgroup: it.hobby.cucina
Titolo: Italian birthday party in the US.

Hi,.
This may be a bit OT, and it's not even in Italian, but I'll ask anyway:
My son is having a birthday party with friends invited. He wants to do the
party the way it's done in Italy. We have done Hawaiian and Scandinavian
(I am Norwegian living in the US) parties in the past, but this time the
request is "doing it Italian".
So my question is two fold: First, how would a birthday party for a 10
year old happen in Italy? I assume there's differences between regions in
Italy, but are there things to eat and do that would make it somewhat
universally Italian? Secondly, if there are food/dishes one would
typically serve at a birthday party in Italy it would be great to get to
know what they are, and if possible get a recipe or two.
If this is totally outside of the scope of this ng please let me know and
I will respect it. On the other hand, if someone would like to help me out
here it would be greatly appreciated! I promised my son I would ask
around, so I have at least kept my promise! :)
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Posted to it.hobby.cucina - Nick
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Hay seed,
I think you've picked the best place to ask. Most of the folks here are
very helpful and a lot of them speak English. A few have even posted on
alt.food.barbecue. How many friends are being invited? Parents? Others?
Happy Birthday to your 10 year old son!
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With all respect, I would suggest that you email Giada De Laurentis at
food network. I would be extremely surprised if she would not help you
out. She's an actual Italian with family in Italy.
-- 
Brick (Youth is wasted on young people)

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http://www.foodnetwork.com/everyday-italian/birthday-party/index.html
She addresses this very same topic.
Also
http://www.bizrate.com/party-supplies/italian-birthday-party-supplies/
Photos of Italian birthday cakes
http://cakeitaly.com/?p=53
Google is our friend :)
Gene
"If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny"
Thomas Jefferson

I can't think of a particular italian theme for italian birthdays existing.
But if you want go through with it here some things you can't leave out:
-you need "pizzette", small pizzas usually bought in large batches. We like
to mix some salty snacks with the cakes and pastries. Also, small sweet
milk bread ("panini al latte") sandwitches with ham or salami.
-happy birthday sung in Italian, and then you pull the kids ear for as many
times as his new age
-let the kids drink wine and smoke
-consider some salty pies as a snack for the adults
-i'm not sure about it's "italianity", but for the cake consider a
"millefoglie":
http://lafucinaculinaria.blogspot.com/2009/10/millefoglie.html

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LMAO Perfecto, Keichy!
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 -let the kids drink wine and smoke
Ai bambini di 10 anni????
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Matteo
Prov. MI Ovest
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 -let the kids drink wine and smoke
te sei folgorato, e pure un bel po'
L.

Depends on your plan.
Is it a dinner party (don't think so) or is it something in the
afternoon with some snacks served?
Of course I'd find rather strange that you would invite 10 years old
kids to a dinner where they have to be seated and eat various
specialities.
Typical children birthdays in the place where I grew up  in the near
past (15 years ago till now nothing changed) are like what they told
you, but it is not something special or really traditional.
You usually serve some salty snacks, chips, very small warm pizzas
(usually not made with the usual dough but with "puff pastry" (pasta
sfoglia) and small pieces of sweet bread (made with milk) filled with
cured meat (salami, prosciutto and whatever from your region).
Then you always end up (that's the only fundamental point) with a
cake. It can be hommemade, and then it's something usual, or bought in
a shop where they make desserts  (with the aim of buying something
very good that you cannot make at home, not something cheap and
industrial. You need a very good place for that)
The clue of the party is the cake. You put candles on it and you blow
them away. And you open the wine.
Usually to drink you serve the american sodas (coca cola, fanta,
sprite etc...)Don't know why since they really suck after you ate
something sweet. For the adults you open some "brut" wine (even if
that's not really the best. For desserts it would really be better
something sweet like "moscato").
If you are using "moscato" you let the kid taste some usually.
And of course let them smoke. :) (that's not necessarily true)


Thanks! :)
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Thanks a lot! This is just phenomenal! :)  A lot to pick from here. I  
looked at the cake and I wanted to eat it off the screen. Can't wait to  
try making it. The party is not until after Halloween in early November,  
but it's time to get the invitations out.
Thanks again!
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Thank you! This is an afternoon party on the weekend, a Saturday. The  
guests come around 14:00  and stay until we're done, usually between 17  
and 18:00. I like the focue on wine of course. In some of the better  
stores around here we can purchase something called "organic Italian  
soda". It's natural, tastes better (and it's expensive), even so I will  
get some of that for the party also. I don't know how "italian" it is, but  
it's good. You can see some of them here:
http://www.randalls.com/IFL/Grocery/CategoryDisplay?catalogIdentifier=OOOOrganics&identifier=OOItalianSoda
Again, thank you so much! :)
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 te sei folgorato, e pure un bel po'
Say that to Vinny Vedecci.


Posso risponderti in italiano? 

 
http://www.randalls.com/IFL/Grocery/CategoryDisplay?catalogIdentifier=OOOOrganics&identifier=OOItalianSoda
searching for some good soda that you can find only in italy?
chinotto!

 chinotto!
m'hai rubato le parole di bocca! è pure un nostro prodotto tipico:
http://snipurl.com/shnfw

 
http://snipurl.com/shnfw
lol A me sembrerebbe anche leggermente pi� italiano che non il bibitone al 
melograno... Ma voi l'avete mai trovata in giro una cosa cos�?
-- 
Signo' pruteggi gli ricc, ca gli pover s'arangia da sul.
(proverbio ferentinate) 

xolotl67 si ostina a mangiare pane e zucchero in una giornata di vento
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Aridalle!!! Cosa gli vorresti rispondere? Che sono entrati educatamente 
chiedendo informazioni e che tu molto civilmente ed educatamente non gliele 
daresti perchï¿½ non parlano la tua lingua?
O vuoi forse sostenere che questa situazione ï¿½ diversa da quella di quanti hanno 
scritto chiedendo pareri su cosa organizzare per compleanni, feste, ecc.?
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 melograno... Ma voi l'avete mai trovata in giro una cosa così?
MAI!
è che il mio inglese scolastico è... scolastico, ho da sistemare tutti
quei funghi e portare il cinghiale in palestra, se no sarei PIENA di
consigli da dargli...
sono 5 anni che in ogni fine settimana invernale c'è una festina di
compleanno, una cosa insopportabile, ma utilissima da consigliare ad
altri...:PPPPPP

 ecc.?
Io in genere e compatibilmente con il tempo che ho a disposizione cerco di 
rispondere a chiunque.
Nello specifico volevo sapere se chi ha posto la domanda, pur non scrivendo 
in Italiano, � in grado di leggerlo.
Non � cos� raro che questo succeda ed in caso affermativo invoglierebbe a 
rispondere chi non scrive in inglese ma ha capito la domanda.
In realt� non � la stessa cosa di chi chiede cosa pu� cucinare stasera 
(premesso che non trovo ci sia niente di male a chiederlo) ma � molto pi� 
simile a chi chiede ricette per una cena etnica. 


Ho utilizzato un traduttore per questo, in modo da potete ottenere una  
buona risata. Se tipi pensate che il mio alberino sia fuori dal soggetto  
su inadeguato in tutto il senso, quello non dovrei inviare a meno che  
parli italiano, lascilo prego sapere e proverò ad imparare la lingua prima  
che invii ancora! :)
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 che invii ancora! :)
I think that your question is not OT.
I asked you if you understand italian even if you don't write it.
In this case I'll answer in italian and may be that some other people that 
understand your question but doesn't write in english can answer your 
question too.
I didn't use an automatic translator therefore you can laugh better. 


Thank you! For the Italian responses I get I will use the translator. I'm  
sure I will get most of it. There's no language I know of which sounds  
more beautuful  than Italian. I wish I knew how to speak it. My other  
language is Norwegian which is of no use around the world and sounds like  
a disease :) Come to think of it, there's a culinary connection between  
Norway and Italy: Bacalao. One of my favorite dishes except I can't get  
the fish for it here in the US.
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 out. She's an actual Italian with family in Italy.
Now that's a great idea although it seems like I am getting all I need  
(and more!) in this thread to pull it off! :)
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 Google is our friend
You know, I am not sure if I would not end up with an American  
interpretation of an Italian birthday party? I kind of like the idea to  
getting it from "the source" if possible. I have seen this when it comes  
to Scandinavian cooking which I know well. The versions of the traditional  
dishes are adapted to the American pallet and is not prepared and served  
the way I remember them. That doesn't mean they aren't good though.
I did a lot of searches and did come up with some ideas, but what I got  
here so far is much better! :)
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che invii ancora! :)
Don't worry, keep on posting in english. There're others that have
been criticized for not posting in italian, but for many its not a
problem. I would dare to say that the overwhelming majority can read
english without effort, and if someone can't, the "ignore" button is
their friend... ;)
Don't use automatic translators, because "alberino fuori dal soggetto"
is actually VERY funny, but not so easy to decode at a first glance...
:)
 
-- 
Ciao, | R: Perche' incasina l'ordine con cui si legge un messaggio
Speck | D: Perche' quotare sotto da' cosi' fastidio?
      | R: Quotare sotto.
      | D: Qual e' la cosa piu' seccante su usenet e in e-mail?

 is actually VERY funny, but not so easy to decode at a first glance...
Now I am really curious! :)
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Now I am really curious! :)
"Alberino" is from the mechanical jargon and stands for pivot, shaft,
pin, something like that... ;)
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 -let the kids drink wine and smoke
Lol.

 Ai bambini di 10 anni????
Mio Nonno, Nicolas Cristofalo (da Giardini-Naxos) made wine. I started
tasting it with him from when I was 5 or 6. "Issa good, Grampa!" Took an
occasional puff on my uncles' pipes or cigars from when I was 7.
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 an occasional puff on my uncles' pipes or cigars from when I was 7.
The exact same here. And ut that puff of smoke didn't become an habit for me 
and I think it has been the same for you. I took 12 more years to start 
smoking, which happened when I was in the high school.
-- 
  Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano 

 chinotto!
Of course!! How could I forget chinotto!!
And if you are lucky try to find also some "cedrata".
They are two sodas, based on the juice of "citrus family" fruits. The
first one is based on "Myrtle-leaved orange" (Citrus myrtifolia).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_myrtifolia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinotto
It looks like a cola but in the taste it is bitter.
Cedrata is made from the juice of Citron (citrus medica). Is much
sweeter. It is something that vaguely resembles a soda made from
orange or lemon. This one is quite sweet, not bitter as the other
one.
Of course even if chinotto tastes bitter the most popular brand in
Italy manages to contain even MORE sugars than coca-cola.

 sure I will get most of it.
Una premessa, nella parte di Italia in cui vivo ci sono due tipologie di 
feste per i bambini di 10 anni.
La prima generalmente rivolta a gruppi pi� ristretti di bambini (max 8-10) � 
un vero e proprio pranzo fatto scegliendo gli alimenti generalmente pi� 
graditi ai bambini.
La seconda tipologia, che credo sia quella che ti interessa, � una festa 
pomeridiana destinata ad un numero maggiore di bambini anche 40 o pi�.
Le bevande non prevedono mai alcolici e sono semplici bevande gassate (tipo 
cola, fanta e sprite) e succhi di frutta.
Per quanto riguarda il cibo si tratta generalmente di alimenti che non 
richiedono l'uso di posate e che possono essere mangiati in piedi.
Si parte da focaccine, tramezzini, piccoli sandwich e nei casi pi� elaborati 
si ricorre ai panzerottini ripieni di mozzarella e pomodoro, al panettone 
salato (una pagnotta dalla forma di panettone tagliata a strati, farcita e 
tagliata a triangoli per comporre tanti tramezzini (difficile da spiegare ma 
se cerchi so google "panettone salato" troverai molte ricette e fotografie), 
al "danubio" o alla treccia di brioche salata farcita di mozzarella 
prosciutto crudo e pomodoro. Molto spesso la festa si conclude con una torta 
di compleanno e con dei pasticcini. Anche in questo caso sono esclusi i 
dolci che prevedano un utilizzo di alcolici nella farcia. Si scelgono 
pertanto crostate di frutta o dolci a base di pan di spagna (bagnato con 
succo di arancia o succo di frutta) e crema alla vaniglia o al cioccolato. 
Le torte spessissimo sono decorate in modo tale da avere l'aspetto del super 
eroe  o del cartone animato preferito dai bambini.
Sono stato molto generico nella descrizione ma se c'� qualcosa che non � 
chiaro prova a a chiedere e se il tuo traduttore automatico non funziona 
bene cercher� di tradurlo in inglese.

 start smoking, which happened when I was in the high school.
I sure fell in love with dry, red wine! I don't know exactly what those
purple grapes were, but they sure made a lovely wine. My Grandmother made a
wonderful grape jelly with them. The @#$%^&* Japanese beetles sure loved
the leaves!
I started smoking in high school, too. Big shot, show off, idiot!
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 smoking, which happened when I was in the high school.
To be honest, I think would be sued by angry parents here in the US if I  
let kids even near tobacco smoke. Hmmm, that alone makes me wanna do it! :)
In Norway we have a saying going like this: "Give the kids alcohol so  
sports won't get them".  :)
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 I started smoking in high school, too. Big shot, show off, idiot!
When I was sixteen my girlfriends dad caught us with cigarettes (it was  
the beginning of my getting caught for stuff I shouldn't be doing). He  
asked her: "Anna, have you started smoking???". I loved her for her  
answer: "No dad, I have just quit!" :)
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 bene cercherò di tradurlo in inglese.
Grazie per tutti i grandi suggerimenti dell'alimento in questo alberino!  
(I hope this means what I want it to mean...! :)
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 sports won't get them".  :)
In Norway you have a saying, "Give someone the Nobel Peace Prize for what
he says he's going to do." ;-/
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 (I hope this means what I want it to mean...! :)
Comes back as, "Thanks for all the great suggestions of the food in this
starter shaft!" I think that in Usenet-speak alberino refers to the thread.
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 (I hope this means what I want it to mean...! :)
Most likely you want the word "discussione", with its obvious meaning in 
english, rather than "alberino" that is sort of "little tree".

 occasional puff on my uncles' pipes or cigars from when I was 7.
Un dito di Moscato l'ho assaggiato anch'io a quell'et� in occasione di feste 
di compleanno.
Se lasci provare una sigaretta a un bambino di 10 anni, come gli spieghi 
questo?
http://files.splinder.com/b97b88d431bc0caa7ffecfcbae3783df.jpeg
Non demonizzo il vino e credo che sia importante imparare a bere "bene".
Fumare mai.
-- 
Matteo
Prov. MI Ovest
Il sito di it.hobby.giardinaggio: 
http://www.i-h-g.it
 

 he says he's going to do." ;-/
Since I moved to Texas I have created my own version of the saying: "Give  
the kids barbecue so fast food won't get them!. Took me four years to be  
able to do my first edible brisket... :)
And yes, Norway gave the Noble Peace prize to Arafat some years ago, so  
what did you expect? I was surprised Bush didn't get it! :)
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Okay, so now I need to learn Italian. Friends here in Texas tell me  
Spanish would be a good choice if I want to add another language. Wonder  
why? :)
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 questo? 
http://files.splinder.com/b97b88d431bc0caa7ffecfcbae3783df.jpeg
Che come tutte le cose buone nella vita i Monopoli ci prendono sopra una 
tassa?

 > non renda loro i dritings! ; - O
 >
 > come su terra avete conosciuto il termine �dritings� che � slang
 > norvegese per ubriaco? Ora sono realmente curioso! :)
Dritings e Skal sono circa il mio limite.
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 > > in Norvegia avete un detto, �date qualcuno il premio di pace Nobel per
 > > che cosa dice che sta andando fare. �; -/
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 > e s�, la Norvegia ha dato il premio nobile di pace a Arafat determinati
 > anni fa, cos� che cosa voi ha previsto? Sono stato sorprendo che Bush
 > non lo ha ottenuto! :)
Bush? Il reincarnation del re Hring?
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year old happen in Italy? 
I'm sorry to say "at McD"...
It's a sad trend, and one I'll do my best to avoid when I'll have
kids, but it's often the kids themsleves asking for it.
FEH!!!
Enrico

 I'm sorry to say "at McD"...
sometimes even at bowling, with pizza and french fried!

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Mo' bettah! Chuck E. Cheese! 
http://www.chuckecheese.com/
The concept is a sit-down pizza restaurant, complemented by arcade games,
amusement rides, an animatronic show, and other diversions, such as
climbing equipment, tubes, and slides - all mainly directed at younger
children.
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