Newsgroup: it.cultura.single
Titolo: Le donne sono stupibili?

..che siano stuprabili questo č assodato e a conti fatti costa anche 
poco...ma sono anche stupibili? o hanno il palato cosě corrotto dai miti 
maschili televisivi o cinematografici da considerare poi il resto del mondo 
maschile ininfluente? 

 maschile ininfluente?
credo che una persona, uomo o donna, possa stupirsi anche facendo la
stessa cosa che si ripete da anni. E non parlo (solo) di sesso. Forse
tu ti riferisci al fatto che oggi è difficile, per alcuni, restare
"affascinati" - più che stupiti - da chi non rispecchia certi canoni
propinati dai media, ma anche questo è un problema legato alle
condizioni sociali, intellettive e culturali dell'individuo, non della
donna.
--
N'attends pas le jour où les derniers marchands auront disparu, où
l'eau et l'air seront rendu, tu es ce que tu es et non le prix qu'on te
paie.

 poco...ma sono anche stupibili?
certo che si, che domande!
ognuna con strumenti/contenuti diversi, ovviamente.
io mi stupisco di poco, per esempio, sono una minimalista.
la cosa che dovrebbe far riflettere non è l'eccesso di effetti
speciali (magari x nascondere i vuoti) ma l'assenza di stupore nel
rilevare il brutto, le assurdità, la cattiveria, le ingiustizie.
ecco io mi stupisco di quest'assenza, per capirci.
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jolly0
Il tocco estremo nella vita di ogni uomo,la più esaltante delle
conquiste,
la più stupenda acrobazia che possa compiere è di sopravvivere a se
stesso.
Sopravvivere procurando il maggior male a se stesso per ricavarne il
maggior bene.
[Bertolt Brecht]

 maschile ininfluente?
credo che una persona, uomo o donna, possa stupirsi anche facendo la
stessa cosa che si ripete da anni. E non parlo (solo) di sesso. Forse
tu ti riferisci al fatto che oggi č difficile, per alcuni, restare
"affascinati" - piů che stupiti - da chi non rispecchia certi canoni
propinati dai media, ma anche questo č un problema legato alle
condizioni sociali, intellettive e culturali dell'individuo, non della
donna.
si intendevo quello...il fascino..ma secondo te lo stesso vale per l'uomo o 
la mitizzazione di certi modelli femminili sono esclusivamente o 
principalmente (per l'uomo) di carattere fisico...? 

 ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:1162303736.3...@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
certo che si, che domande!
ognuna con strumenti/contenuti diversi, ovviamente.
io mi stupisco di poco, per esempio, sono una minimalista.
la cosa che dovrebbe far riflettere non è l'eccesso di effetti
speciali (magari x nascondere i vuoti) ma l'assenza di stupore nel
rilevare il brutto, le assurdità, la cattiveria, le ingiustizie.
ecco io mi stupisco di quest'assenza, per capirci.
intendevo dire se gli uomini comuni stupiscono....


quando le stai vicino senza volere nulla in cambio, si stupiscono
sempre nel rendersene conto.

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Più dei così detti non comuni. Dai superuomini ti aspetti di tutto dall'uomo 
comune ogni cosa è stupore che si accetta con infinita gratitudine proprio 
perchè non te lo sapetti.
Rosella
-- 
Gli uomini vorrebbero essere sempre il primo amore di una donna.
Questa è la loro sciocca vanità.
Le donne hanno un istinto più sottile per le cose:
a loro piace essere l'ultimo amore di un uomo. (O. Wilde)


si intendevo questo..se si percepisce ancora il senso del grande nelle 
piccole cose e non nella spettacolarizzazione 

 ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:5mmek2pftjomickv5...@4ax.com...
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donne simili son gia eccezionali di loro...ma la tua frase č interpretabile 
anche in modo offensivo non  credi? 

 stai parlando di adolescenti con poco cervello, oppure di donne?
a veder cosa gira qui e cosa leggono..direi donne... 

 principalmente (per l'uomo) di carattere fisico...?
e cosa cambierebbe? un modello riporta schemi desiderati e
desiderabili, quali che siano codesti schemi poco importa nel contesto
che stiamo trattando.


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assolutamente! Una donna che si stupisce ha sempre un volto
bellissimo!

 principalmente (per l'uomo) di carattere fisico...?
e cosa cambierebbe? un modello riporta schemi desiderati e
desiderabili, quali che siano codesti schemi poco importa nel contesto
che stiamo trattando.
ma io volevo parlare della differenza degli schemi..come dovrei  formulare 
allora la domanda? 

 ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:68oek2hqm7od7kh22...@4ax.com...
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scusa ma solo un ebete non chiederebbe nulla in cambio...persino una madre 
chiede in cambio qualcosa... 

 maschile ininfluente?
al contrario: i sensi si sono affinati ed è scesa un po' la selettività..ma
come dicevo restano pochi e rari i non omologati disponibili e veramente
liberi
luce

 intendevo dire se gli uomini comuni stupiscono....
ma arlessino-mmio, non esistono uomini comuni!
neanke tu lo sei, a ben vedere.
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 intendevo dire se gli uomini comuni stupiscono....
ma arlessino-mmio, non esistono uomini comuni!
neanke tu lo sei, a ben vedere.
bhe una volta esistevano..son proprio isolato ormai

 come dovrei  formulare allora la domanda?
bo, forse includendo il concetto di "differenza (degli schemi)" :-)


 liberi
forse è l'assenza di una partecipazione collettiva alle cose che non genera 
esperienze in mezzo con gli altri...che impoverendo ci rende sempre più 
simili ma non nella diversità...poco prodotta. 

 bhe una volta esistevano..son proprio isolato ormai
non sei isolato, è ke sei rimasto a diabolik!
ahahahahahahah
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 bhe una volta esistevano..son proprio isolato ormai
non sei isolato, è ke sei rimasto a diabolik!
ahahahahahahah
e tu a satanik... 

 e tu a satanik...
non mi piaceva satanik e manco kriminal (a dispetto delle kappette)
il mio idolo era proprio diabolik e per le femminucce vartan, te lo
ricordi sto fumetto?
quella era il mio ideale di femmina.


 simili ma non nella diversità...poco prodotta.
io nel mio riesco sempre a partecipare e collettivizzare situazioni anche
quotidiane tipo la coda in posta...però mi resta comunque difficile trovare
dei riscontri significativi
luce
a che ufficio postale vai? ;o)

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lucina perfavore (!) non puoi scrivere ste cose a tradimento, che poi io mi
scompiscio e ciò il capo che mi guarda di sbiego per cercare di capire.
non puoi raccogliere di ste perle ... arlessino si sa che parla dello
specifico del vago per definizione,
lui alludeva a compartecipare le masse delle trombate private, e in quel
caso, è sempre difficile cogliere dei riscontri significativi!
hahahaahhaahahahahahahahhahaahahhaahahhaahahahahahahah
scusa non riesco a trattenermi
------
jolly0
Il tocco estremo nella vita di ogni uomo,la più esaltante delle conquiste,
la più stupenda acrobazia che possa compiere è di sopravvivere a se stesso.
Sopravvivere procurando il maggior male a se stesso per ricavarne il maggior
bene.
[Bertolt Brecht]
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Inviato via 
http://arianna.libero.it/usenet/

 e tu a satanik...
non mi piaceva satanik e manco kriminal (a dispetto delle kappette)
il mio idolo era proprio diabolik e per le femminucce vartan, te lo
ricordi sto fumetto?
quella era il mio ideale di femmina.
non bene..ma se non sbaglio era disegnato da un francsese....Si anche a me 
quei due non andavano..troppo sangue fine a se stesso...Diabolik essendo 
scritto da donne era diverso...e trattava a suo modo anche tematiche 
sociali...era decisamente un bel tipo e la sua una compagna mca 
male...invece quel pirla di Ginko solo figure di merda...per uno stipendio 
da fame... 

 resto del mondo maschile ininfluente?
io sono stupita fissa.
e' quyesto che mi tiene in vita..
ma non stupida
e questo mi fa morire ogni giorno un po'...
-- 
coltivo come un fiore
la mia raggiante misantropia...(cit) 

 lucina perfavore (!)
certo che posso..e l'ho fatto!
la mia risposta era coerente la tua spiegazione era superflua
...ora mi resta da vedre come si pronuncierà Arles
luce


è ke in reatà volevo proprio ringraziarti... mi stavo proprio a
scompiscià...
hahaahahahahahahha


 e questo mi fa morire ogni giorno un po'...
mai pensato ad uno stupro terapeutico? 

 mai pensato ad uno stupro terapeutico?
si pensano tante cose.


"luce" <whi...@email.itA> ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:w8L1h.10956$Pk4....@tornado.fastwebnet.it...
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nessuno...uso la rete per fare ogni tipo di pagmenti...mi resta la 
consolazione di quelle belle file al supermercato...che a volte la 
tentazione di morire di fame non nego mi prende... 

 caso, è sempre difficile cogliere dei riscontri significativi!
che faziosità analitica...la specificità del vago come orgasmo 
mancato...strumentalizzare la trombatura del popolo...poi è l'eccesso del 
tuo tradimento storico verso le classi che non possono essere definite...
terapia? Abluzioni con santini di Padre Pio 6 volte al giorno 


LOLz 

 terapia? Abluzioni con santini di Padre Pio 6 volte al giorno
non posso, lo sai che essendo dio, ciò dei vincoli contrattuali.


chiede in cambio qualcosa...
cosa?
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al contrario: i sensi si sono affinati ed è scesa un po' la selettività..
potrebbe anche accadere l'esatto opposto, ed in genere è così...
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e se odi lo spam ti vado nell'ano
ti ci vado assai profondo
per dir tutta la verità
ma si sa che a questo mondo
cosa fatta capo ha
Le cose serie non mi voglion piacere
e non ci tengo a famiglia avere
non ci tengo a lavorare
ma solo una cosa io amo fare
ed è quella di spammare
In passato, a me si è opposto un tizio
tale Mindoli Fabrizio *
lui aveva a me promesso guerra,
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fatto sta che sulla Terra
nessun l'ha fatto fino ad oggi
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e ti ci faccio anche to'!
Perché tanto ormai già io so
che a parlar son buoni tanti
ma al numero centotrentuno
non ci viene mai nessuno
Ah! Quasi mi scordavo, porcaccio il pisello
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 potrebbe anche accadere l'esatto opposto, ed in genere è così...
Per me è così. Sono sempre stata selettiva, ora ancora di più.
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jolly-uzza dixit il 23.10.06 alle h 21.31
"quindi se vuoi parlare di tette&culi&fighe&cazzi bene, altrimenti,
(senza offesa) famo natra volta, l'argomento cinzia+max x me è archiviato".

 cosa?
al minimo la sua felicità utilizzando i suoi parametri....e quindi 
spessissimo creando contraddizioni interpersonali superabili al meglio con 
una  reciproca rinuncia e intesa...al peggio malessere e dolore.... 

 una  reciproca rinuncia e intesa...al peggio malessere e dolore....
ebbè, un uomo chesi zzarda a dire cosa vuole/chide una madre non è male,
tutto sommato
jolly0
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Lun 6 Mar 2006 13:19
almos: Ho un debole per la jollyna, lei può fare quello che vuole :-)
cinzia : Anche a me piace, la trovo spietatamente vera.

 chiede in cambio qualcosa...
Dissento, io faccio tante cose senza chiedere niente in cambio e non mi 
sento niente affatto ebete. Con quale metro misuri la vita? 

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non ho una madre così (forse perchè non vi è mai stato il bisogno);
capisco quello che dici ma non lo condivido,  l'intervento sotto di
arianna è esplicativo del mio pensiero, anche se ella non è mia madre
:-))
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