Newsgroup: it.comp.giochi.avventure.testuali
Titolo: a proposito di feelies.org...

Guardate cos'ho estrapolato dal sito....
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How much will a feelie packet cost the player?
The cost of the packet is determined by several factors, including
cost of materials and productions, but it does not include any amount
of profit for 
feelies.org
 or its volunteers. A shipping and handling
fee is also added to the completed order, for postage and the cost of
accepting PayPal payments. 
Does the service cost me anything?
There is a nominal set-up fee of $5/game to get yourself registered
with us and your images loaded onto our webspace. This is only
intended to cover webhosting costs and to discourage casual abuses of
our system. 
Can I add a shareware fee to the price of my feelie packet?
You may, although the added cost could cause some customers to pass
over your product. In addition, because of the extra handling and
accounting this requires of us, we will charge you a fee of 10% for
whatever shareware price we collect. 
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In pratica lo farebbero solo per la gloria?? si parla di "volunteers"
cioè volontari? e allora come mai se si fa uno shareware pretendono il
10% del guadagno?
Ho poi dato un'occhiata ai prezzi e non sono poi chissà cosai, ci sono
offerte altrettanto buone qui in Italia...
Insomma a me ad una prima occhiata sembra una fregatura :-P poi mi
sbaglierò...
Cmq anche a me piacerebbe avere una "copia" di un gioco fatto da me...
mi ricordo che quando facevo giochi budget da edicola (non avventure
testuali) e mi davano la copia gratis ero molto contento nel vedere la
scatola... :-) anche se poi il gioco non rifletteva proprio il mio
lavoro ma questa è un'altra storia :-P
Jack Norton
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ex "Rei di Nanto"

 10% del guadagno?
beh se uno pubblica free, mettono anche loro il feelie "free" (cioè a
costo), se uno ci guadagna (seeee, ahi voglia) allora anche loro vogliono un
pezzo... in realtà anche in questo caso copriranno appena le spese perché se
usano paypal per raccogliere la shareware fee, e poi ancora mandarla
all'autore, perdono un sacco di soldi...
ciao
S

 10% del guadagno? 
The five dollars at setup is to cover costs that we may spend
preparing to do a run -- making samples, web costs, and so on -- and
to keep people from abusing the service with completely frivolous
requests.  We hope that it will not discourage anyone sincere.
The shareware cut is, as mentioned, for accounting and redistribution
costs, because it means extra work with paypal, cutting checks and
mailing them, and so on.  For what it is worth, the feelies for Savoir
Faire in their initial run sold 40 copies.  If I'd been collecting a
shareware fee of $1/packet (I wasn't), that would have earned me $40,
of which the feelies percent would be a grand total of $4... not
exactly the ransom of kings.  We decided to charge what we did in the
hope of not *costing* ourselves more money than we could afford.  Even
so, various people have fronted their own money for the domain
registration and other startup costs, out of interest in the project. 
(If someone got 5000 orders and the ten percent started to be a
significant amount of money, we would have to renegotiate.  But then
at that point I would be spending hours every week just filling the
orders...)
As it is designed, no one involved with this stands to make any money.
 We established it because we wish to see more feelies available with
games, and thought this might be the best way to help authors and
players.  But because it is a volunteer effort, it also lacks some of
the resources of a real publishing house -- we cannot afford to offer
authors free samples in all cases, for instance.  Packets can be
expensive, and to make a free sample would mean that I personally or
someone else involved with the group would have to donate the money in
addition to donating our time.
This is meant in the best of faith, but if anyone is offended, they
are free to distribute whatever they like by their own means.  We are
not charging anyone for the games themselves, which remain free, nor
are we collecting money for anything except the price of actually
making the materials and the overhead we spend on envelopes, postage,
and so on.

and so on.
Well the idea is cool. I'm curious to see how it will develop :) not
sure if we (italians) will be able to partecipate as using Paypal
requires one to have an account in a U.S. bank... :-\
Best of wishes in your project :)
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 requires one to have an account in a U.S. bank... :-\
Paypal can send money to many international countries other than US; Italy
is still not among them, but they're working on it.
Anyway your money is still in your Paypal account and you can use it in any
shop that accepts Paypal payments.
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Atrus di Myst
Muskhil Badi Tu hai Kaha
http://legendknights.keenspace.com

 Less than a ticket, actually. =)
It's true, sigh :(
yesterday I paied 6$ to see "the score"

shop that accepts Paypal payments.
Sure? I heard that to subscribe to it you *must* have an account to an
U.S. bank, but that was about 1 year ago, maybe they've changed that..
:-)
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 requires one to have an account in a U.S. bank... :-\
Che non č poc'

 U.S. bank, but that was about 1 year ago, maybe they've changed that..
Well, you had to have an US account (or a Western Union near you) to cash
your money some time ago, but they're trying to make it more international.
:)
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