Newsgroup: it.cultura.single
Titolo: Halloween

Secondo il Codacons quest'anno la festa in Italia muoverà un giro 
d'affari pari a 260 milioni di euro: 110 milioni di euro per le feste 
nei locali, discoteche e ristoranti; 70 milioni per maschere e 
travestimenti; 55 milioni per gadget vari; 25 milioni per le zucche 
vere o di plastica. Sempre secondo il Codacons il 70% del giro di 
affari di Halloween sarà determinato dal coinvolgimento di bambini e 
giovani sotto dei 35 anni, più sensibili allo stile americano della 
festa, e all'influsso della pubblicità di Halloween.
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Cronache/2006/10_Ottobre/27/halloween.shtml
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"Ricordi" <Ric...@fastwebnet.itA> ha scritto nel messaggio 
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In effetti mi sono sempre chiesta ma che cavolo lo festeggiamo a fare noi 
Halloween? 

halloween è un'americanat del cazzo!
va bene solo nei film!
si perdono tutte le nostre tradizioni (ad esempio qui i bambini girano a far
casino nei negozi, per sanmartino ;almeno lo facevano)
Sti stessi genitori del cazzo mandano i loro pirla di bambini in giro
vestiti con la zucchetta.
Halloween rifornisce le casse di:
telefonia (con sfondi e cagate otoauricolari)
grandi magazzini
locali
media
E poi, gli stessi che si tacciano di antiamericanismo convinto e si fanno
missionari della pace e si vestono da dolcetto e scherzetto...
bah
TL

 e allora?
:-* !
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quoto

 va bene solo nei film!
mica sei obbligato a festeggiarlo.
A me piace moltissimo, cosě dark e ricco di suggestioni !
Invece odio il carnevale fracassone.
antony 

 i quali si limitarono solo ad importarla in epoca molto più recente.
Se non sbaglio furono proprio gli irlandesi a portare questa tradizione in 
America. Poi gli americani come al solito hanno trasformato il tutto in 
festa supercommerciale.
Rosella
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Gli uomini vorrebbero essere sempre il primo amore di una donna.
Questa è la loro sciocca vanità.
Le donne hanno un istinto più sottile per le cose:
a loro piace essere l'ultimo amore di un uomo. (O. Wilde)


a parte il fatto che č da idioti farne una questione di pro o 
antiamericanismo,
la festa di Halloween ha origini celtiche, e quindi europee, e se studi un 
pochino la
storia saprai che i celti (anche detti Galli) sono stati anche da noi.....
ignurant !
antony 

 ignurant !
però converrai che non l'hanno mai festeggiata prima
e non in maniera celtica
luce

 Invece odio il carnevale fracassone.
Antonior, ti devo un cinema. :oÞ! (Film a tua scelta ;-) )
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chi ?
antony 

 Ricordi.


si, ma sono gli ammerigani che c'hanno rotto il cazzo con questa festa
del cazzo

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assì ? sono venuti a festeggiare in casa tua ?
boh, um pè d'sugnè
antony 

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urbino, non si apre...***********
antony 


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si .. stamattina due figli di annerigani hanno bussato alla mia porta
proprio mentre violentavo un donna e mi hanno disturbato con
scherzetti dolcetti .. li ho fatti entrare ed ho violentato pure loro,
bha

 urbino, non si apre...***********
 ufff
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cazzo, sei vivace !
antony 

 antony
cosě?
http://karibouldingo.free.fr/guntargen/guntargendoit.php?porteur=V33C3C3CCCCCCCschnouf&letexte=%
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si apre, ma son talmente stupido che non l'ho mica capita...
antony 

 trasformato il tutto in festa supercommerciale.
Halloween Nei paesi anglosassoni, la sera del 31 ottobre, vigilia 
della festa cristiana di Hallowmas, Allhallows o Ognissanti.
Si pensa che le pratiche connesse a Halloween abbiano avuto origine 
presso gli antichi druidi, i quali credevano che quella sera Saman, 
il signore dei morti, evocasse orde di spiriti maligni.
Per tradizione, a Halloween i druidi accendevano grandi fuochi, 
probabilmente per respingere tali spiriti. Presso gli antichi celti, 
che consideravano Halloween l'ultimo giorno dell'anno e un momento 
propizio per verificare i pronostici sul futuro, era credenza diffusa 
che quella sera gli spiriti dei defunti facessero visita alle loro 
case terrene. In seguito alla conquista romana della Britannia, 
Halloween assunse alcune caratteristiche della festa romana del 
raccolto, che si celebrava il 1° novembre in onore di Pomóna, dea dei 
frutti degli alberi.
In Scozia e in Galles, la tradizione celtica di accendere fuochi a 
Halloween è sopravvissuta fino all'epoca attuale. Tracce della festa 
del raccolto romana sopravvivono nel costume, comune a Stati Uniti e 
Gran Bretagna, di fare giochi con la frutta, ad esempio chinare la 
testa e cercare di prendere delle mele poste in una vasca d'acqua 
senza servirsi delle mani. Di origine simile è l'usanza di svuotare e 
intagliare zucche per ricavarne facce grottesche e di accendervi 
candele all'interno. Oggi è molto diffusa la pratica di travestirsi 
da fantasma, da strega, ma anche da personaggi famosi della politica 
o dello spettacolo; la vecchia tradizione di questuare dolci per le 
case dei vicini (detta treat or trick, “offerta o scherzo”, che in 
passato poteva anche degenerare nella devastazione delle case 
visitate), è stata quasi interamente sostituita da feste dove vengono 
premiati i migliori travestimenti.   (cit)
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Accidenti, ricordavo male, non vedo irlandesi nel tuo racconto. :-)
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 perchè poi da ciò dipende la scelta del film...
Inutile nascondere la mia propensione per ombretta ^^ , ma... va bene 
anche antonior ;-)
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_*Rosella*  scrisse domenica alle ore 22.23.18_ :
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Non c'è nulla di mio ;-). (magari)
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 loro, bha
Rotfl!
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ho capito che hai capito :-P
antony 

inizia di molto a starmi sulle balle.
non ce l'hai le balle .. e cmq è una festa del cazzo (IMHO) ... 
gli ammerigani mi stanno sulle palle per mille altri motivi, non per
la pochezza culturale che li contraddistingue da molti anni

 inizia di molto a starmi sulle balle.
Da un po' di anni i miei figli insieme ai loro amici, festeggiano la 
serata di Halloween andando di piano in piano per le dieci scale 
(numeri civici) del l'isolato dove abitiamo, si truccano con poco, un 
po’ di matita e via, eppure sono felice per loro quando poi li vedo 
rientrare con il bottino di caramelle e cioccolatini che hanno 
procacciato. E devi sentire cosa non raccontano, addirittura di gente 
che gli ha sbattuto in faccia la porta, essendo però per fortuna una 
piccola minoranza, non ne sono stati intaccati moralmente, anzi ci 
ridono su anche loro. (Una bella serata) ^^
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 ho capito che hai capito :-P
:-*
Notte.
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uff...mi lasci di già per andare a violentare la moglie ?
antony

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Urbi, trattami da uomo, please...altrimenti devo farmi mettere
in ombra....uff !
antony 

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pino, senza offesa, si vede che sei di molto ignorante.
fanculo ninfe' .. va su qualche dizionario e leggi cose c'è scritto
sotto la voce cultura .. poi, se vuoi e se ti mostri gentile ed
educata, magari possiamo anche scambiarci qualche riflessione sulla
cultura occidentale in genere, sulle radici culturali del mondo
moderno, sulle culture orientali e magari, sforzandoti un po' ed
applicandoti, potremmo anche parlare di religioni e tendeze varie
p.s. quando offendi non puoi offendere e scrivere senza offesa, perchè
o prendi doppiamente per il culo, oppure non sai quelo che scrivi.

beh una cosa l'ho capita: 
no, una sola cosa dovevi capire e non ti sei sforzata per niente. Mi
hai dato bellamente dell'ignorante e poi ti risenti se ti rispondo
allo stesso modo. Forse hai risposto con superficialità? Ed anche in
questo post stai stronzeggiando alquanto ... sai benissimo che io non
mi incazzo mai, e questa risposta è solo quella che ti meriti per come
sei intervenuta .. sai, sono mussulmano e seguo la legge del taglione

 dimmi quando devo smettere di ridere...
crunch crunch
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sei meglio quando ridi di quando dai dell'ignorante o
dell'andropausante ai tuoi colleghi di NG ... e poi hai anche una
bella dentatura .. ridi, ridi

 E tu fai bene a farli andare :-)
;-)
Non pensavo che anche per una nottata di festa veniva fuori 
uno spirito contraddittorio nei confronti delle usanze dalla 
festa. :/
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Salve, son lo spammer arcano
e se odi lo spam ti vado nell'ano
ti ci vado assai profondo
per dir tutta la verità
ma si sa che a questo mondo
cosa fatta capo ha
Le cose serie non mi voglion piacere
e non ci tengo a famiglia avere
non ci tengo a lavorare
ma solo una cosa io amo fare
ed è quella di spammare
In passato, a me si è opposto un tizio
tale Mindoli Fabrizio
lui mi aveva promesso guerra,
guerra a me e ai miei messaggi
fatto sta che sulla Terra
nessun l'ha fatto fino ad oggi
Se comunque tu,  vuoi il sangue mio
a Follonica* io sto
ma io invece vo in oblio
e ti ci faccio anche to'!
Perché tanto ormai già io so
che a parlar son buoni tanti
ma al numero centotrentuno
non ci viene mai nessuno
Ah! Quasi mi scordavo, porcaccio il pisello
la via è sempre quella, quella via del Cassarello!
* Follonica(GR)
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