Newsgroup: it.cultura.cybersocieta
Titolo: Nomi e cognomi (era: IAMCM approvato)

 La cosa mi interessa. Continui su it.cultura.cybersocietà?
In qualche modo s'era gia' cominciato a parlarne:
36bcd17...@news.flashnet.it
Il thread sulla lista dei listowner e' andato avanti per una ventina di
messaggi, se ti interessa lo zippo e te lo mando.
Ricordo che parlavi di regole del genere sulla rete civica di Roma.
	Luca
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see the need to demand a full name.
Even then your full identity need be given only to the administrators, not
to the rest of the on-line students, and not every time you speak up.
====== Moderated vs. unmoderated, un equivoco
----	From: Luca 
I have some funny news: Edumus is an *unmoderated* list.
This is crazy! I'm wasting my time (and yours) because of a list owner that
doesn't even know what "unmoderated" means!
Sorry, I didn't realize that. He writes me and says that he won't approve
my posts anymore if I don't sign them with my full name, so I don't even
think possible that the list is not moderated. Now I go and read carefully
the welcome message, and find that 
"Edumus č una mailing-list non moderata, i messaggi vengono inviati
direttamente alla lista senza che ci sia un moderatore con funzioni di
filtro".
(Edumus is an unmoderated mailing list, messages go directly to the list
without a moderator acting as a filter).
----	From: "Lynn W" 
At ONElist, even on an unmoderated list, the list-owner can "moderate"
individual members, so that messages from those persons cannot be posted
until he approves them.  I am a co-moderator on an unmoderated list, and we
have done this on a couple of occasions when certain individuals have been,
shall we say, a trifle unpleasant with other members.  .
----	From: Luca 
That's ok. 
But in my case, the welcome messages reports lots of sharp rules, a dozen
or so; if the owner of such a list claims it's an unmoderated one, and he
stiffly filters out messages basing himself upon every single prescription
of his, I wonder what does "moderation" mean anymore? Ideologic censorship?
Then, apart from rationalty in my listowner's rules, I think there's
evidently a contradiction between his behaviour in my case and his own
statement:
"Edumus is an unmoderated mailing list, messages go directly to the list
without a moderator acting as a filter)".
----  From: "David W. Tamkin" 
Luca asked,
| Can the owner of an unmoderated list himself unsubscribe real nasty people
| from his list?
Absofrigginlutely, Luca.
| Shouldn't he have the job done by 
ab...@onelist.com
?
No; removing or banning someone from all lists on Onelist is a job for
ab...@onelist.com
.
| Anyway, would a list owner be allowed to kick me out from his *un*moderated
| list, just because my posts, though being polite and perfectly on topic,
| don't observe an arbitrary rule expressed in the welcome message, like the
| one about last names?
Absofrigginlutely.  His list runs under his rules, no matter how senseless
or arbitrary, and if subscribers don't like them and he won't change them,
they can vote with their feet.  If he wants to run his list and his
reputation into the ground, it's his funeral.
| Let's see, you can ban users and/or filter their messages in both cases.
| So what's the difference between moderated lists and unmoderated ones?
On an unmoderated list, unless the owner has set the particular submitter to
moderated, a post goes right out as soon as it reaches the list host without
a moderator's review.
----	From: Luca 
But that's just another way to moderate, based on a "thrusted" list. 
I think there are lots of ways to take control over a mailing list, or a
newsgroup. So I assume that there's no Onelist list that one could properly
define "not moderated". No problem with that, it's just for clearness.
	Luca
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