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Titolo: UN CRETINO SI AGGIRA PER L'EUROPA!!

Dal New York Times di oggi:
Italian's Sharp Tongue Punctures Image of United Europe
By RICHARD BERNSTEIN
BERLIN, July 2 — Stung by criticism, the Italian prime minister, Silvio
Berlusconi, suggested today to a German member of the European Parliament
that he would make an excellent leader of a Nazi concentration camp.
The remark, made on the day after Mr. Berlusconi took over the rotating
presidency of the European Union, enraged the German Socialist, Martin
Schulz, set off a diplomatic furor and suggested that the swashbuckling
Italian leader might produce more division than reconciliation in a Europe
grappling with several difficult issues.
Those issues include adoption of a new constitution as the 15- member union
expands next year to 25 members, and relations with the United States, which
were frayed by the bitter debates leading up to the Iraq war. Mr. Berlusconi
has stood far closer to President Bush than the German and French leaders.
Mr. Berlusconi, whose combative, bristling style and control of much of the
Italian media have made him a controversial figure across the Continent, was
giving a routine inaugural policy speech today to the European Parliament in
Strasbourg, France, when Mr. Schulz questioned his suitability for his new
post.
The German legislator specifically raised Mr. Berlusconi's sponsorship of a
new immunity law in Italy at a time when he is on trial in Milan on bribery
charges.
"Mr. Schulz," Mr. Berlusconi said in reply, cocking his head to one side and
smiling, "I know there is a man in Italy producing a film on the Nazi
concentration camps. I would like to suggest you for the role of leader. You
would be perfect."
In response, Mr. Schulz said: "Mr. Berlusconi, if I understood him
correctly, invited me to appear as the commandant of a concentration camp."
He went on to say it was very hard for him to accept that someone capable of
such a remark should lead the European Union.
Italy's ambassador in Berlin and Germany's ambassador in Rome were summoned
by their host governments to receive formal protests. Germany quickly issued
a statement labeling Mr. Berlusconi's remark unacceptable.
(ed io aggiungo: tra parentesi
But for the European Union, the deeper significance may be as an augury of
what lies ahead during the six months of Mr. Berlusconi's presidency.)
"The incident and resulting breakdown hang in the air," the daily
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung commented as news of Mr. Berlusconi's
exchange with Mr. Schulz began rocketing through Europe. "If the coming
months are only occupied with dumb provocations and vain character
assassination, it is going to be difficult to move forward the European
project. Being reasonable is not everybody's thing."
The greeting Mr. Berlusconi got in the parliamentary hall even before the
exchange with Mr. Schulz presaged the polarizing effect many believe he will
have.
Placards held aloft by leftist legislators read, in several languages,
"Nobody is above the law" and "No Godfather for Europe."
Even before the session, Mr. Berlusconi's assumption of the union presidency
had received enormous media attention in Europe, most of it unfavorable.
The most persistent charge, made for years, has to do with conflict of
interest. As Italy's biggest media entrepreneur — he owns the country's
biggest publishing house and three national television stations — Mr.
Berlusconi has been widely accused in his own country of using his political
power to favor legislation beneficial to his business interests.
Two weeks ago, Mr. Berlusconi's political allies in the Italian Parliament
passed a law that exempts the top five serving government officials,
including the prime minister, from criminal prosecution. The adoption of the
law put a stop to the trial of Mr. Berlusconi, already under way in Milan,
though the court holding the trial has challenged the constitutionality of
the legislation.
In addition to being the first sitting Italian prime minister to testify as
a defendant in a criminal case, Mr. Berlusconi has aroused the ire of the
European left by his open admiration for President Bush and by his support
of the Iraq war. His relations with some European leaders, particularly
Gerhard Schröder of Germany and Jacques Chirac of France, are said to be
very tense.
But while in the past Mr. Berlusconi has mostly been an issue for Italians,
who have twice elected him prime minister, the prospect of Italy's
presidency of the European Union sharply ratcheted up the negative views in
the European press.
The cover story in Der Spiegel on Monday showed a picture of Mr. Berlusconi
with the caption, "The Godfather," and contained this comment: "At home he
dismantles justice, subjugates television and has laws tailored to his
needs, and now he will represent Europe."
The Economist, which before his electoral victory in Italy two years ago ran
an article titled, "Unfit to Lead Italy," more recently ran another with the
headline, "Unfit to Lead Europe."
To counter the negative attention he has been getting, Mr. Berlusconi
published a letter today in four newspapers in Italy, Germany, France and
Spain in which he shot back at his critics. "No one is in a position to give
lessons in morality to a government elected by the Italians," he wrote.
Mr. Berlusconi refused to retract his comment to Mr. Schulz, saying it was
meant in an ironic way.
"It was the way in which he spoke," Mr. Berlusconi later said of Mr. Schulz.
"It was his gestures. He attacked me and was extremely offensive about me
and my country. I replied to his insults ironically with a joke."
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 Dal New York Times di oggi:
Sembra che ne parli bene, piuttosto.

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In effetti ha centrato uno dei pochissimi articoli che non segue l'onda
permalosa.
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permalosa???
LOL
.... ¿¿¿ permalosa???
ROTFL
Cordialmente mio mao : [due_punti] Alessio

 ROTFL
te come la chiameresti?

Non solo cretino, ma anche ignorante.
_Le_ kapo', erano donne, reclutate tra le detenute.
Usque tandem.....
Iperboreo

 _Le_ kapo', erano donne, reclutate tra le detenute.
prego? E tra i detenuti chi c'era allora? I kapa'? :P
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| Djellaba la Sanguinaria |
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 prego? E tra i detenuti chi c'era allora? I kapa'? :P
Kape' o kapi', alles kaputt
(dal mio post su ica)
In genere erano scelti tra quelli che avevano precedenti penali, ed
erano veri pezzi di merda. In qualche caso, un po' per errore un po'
perché le organizzazioni clandestine di resistenza riuscivano a farli
scegliere,  furono scelti oppositori del regime, che cercavano di
aiutare i compagni.
Nel film di Pontecorvo la protagonista č la magnifica Susan Strasberg
il film č del '59, 
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0052961
 
"If somebody would like to see what was a nazi prison, one has to see
this movie(. It showed with realism the nature of cruelty by nazis and
the ways they used some of their prisoners to watch the movement of
the rest and to combat effectively any possible plot against them.
Pontecorvo is a director with a few films, but all of them always show
real facts of the history, and this film is not an exception "
--
"La vita che mi piace fare
non č avere, č solo sfiorare"
(Rocco Papaleo)
your road it's you; you're the road you can walk along and through.


Per chi di voi non lo sapesse, questo signore assieme al collega Woodward,
quando allora lavoravano nel Washington post, fece scoppiare lo scandalo
watergate, ricordate? Qullo che costrinse Nixon alle dimissioni, delle
vicenda ne fu tratto un film "tutti gli uomini del presidente" lui era
interpretato da Robert Redford, Woodward da Dustin Hoffman.
Mi chiedo non è che per la terza volta nella sua vita Bernstein voglia
vincere il premio Pulizer? E nel frattempo liberare l'Italia?
Ciao
Maverick

 vincere il premio Pulizer? E nel frattempo liberare l'Italia?
Ma l'hai letto?

 vincere il premio Pulizer? E nel frattempo liberare l'Italia?
magari, gli darei pure e volentieri una mano!!!!! quel nanetto merita
davvero di fare una gran brutta fine.
ah, appro... bentornato!!!! come ti vanno le cose? :-)
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"Gogan" <-@-.-> ha scritto nel messaggio
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Berlusconi fa una politica filo-americana, e questo lo sta allontanando
politicamente da altri leader europei, pertanto è difficile che giornali
importanti in america come il ney york times lo critichino, per un fatto che
è lontano da loro (parliamoci chiaro agli americani il conflitto d'interessi
di Berluscono non li tocca), e poi avevo letto tempo fa che Bernstein ha
perso il suo smalto, la mia era un utopia, una richiesta d'aiuto, perchè
"tutti sanno ma nessuno fa niente per fermarlo."

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Grazie del bentornato, per quando riguarda la tua seconda domanda ehm
Venerdě ho inserito il portafogli in lavatrice, risultato devo rifare i
documenti,
l'altri ieri qualcuno in un parcheggio mi ha fatto trovare la macchina
ammaccata
per il resto ordinaria amministrazione.
Ciao
Maverick

 per il resto ordinaria amministrazione.
hei..ciao!
....che sogni fai ora ? ;o)
LUCE

 documenti,
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tu mi batti: io al limite faccio la tinteggiatura involontaria alla
biancheria :-)
Sara' perche' tengo rigorosamente separati i documenti di identita' dai
soldi? :-)
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"LUCE" <solo...@liberA.it> ha scritto nel messaggio
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Venerdě ho avuto un incubo. Il furto della macchina.


Con questa esperienza ho scoperto una cosa.
Prima avevo qualche dubbio sulla qualità degli Euro. Ma ne sono usciti fuori
bene, nessun problema
Maverick

 bene, nessun problema
Strano, a me una banconota da 5 euro mi e' rimasta nelle mani: meta' in
una mano, meta' nell'altra... La fascetta interna invece e' rimasta x
terra!
E io che volevo solo stiracchiarla un poco, visto che dovevo trasferirla
da una tasca a un portafogli!!!! ho solo tirato un poco pochino... rrip!
che faccio, dico ai malavitosi di usare ACE che non fa sstrap????????
:P
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 "tutti sanno ma nessuno fa niente per fermarlo."
Certo che se la gente (comune e politici, ora s'č visto pure esteri) vanno
avanti a cazzate del tipo: "gneeeee m'ha detto che sono un kapň" ce lo
teniamo per un pezzo.
Ciao

 teniamo per un pezzo.
ehm...veramente non c'è stata una reazione di questo tipo...
dare del kapò 'per ironia' comportandosi a quel modo
avendo quel ruolo in quella sede
non è una cosa da poco!
certo il grande mito che tenta di emulare il nostro nano ne fa di peggio
LUCE