Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio.milan
Titolo: Re: American Fatball

 if the entire world jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?). 

> Massi (giallorosso) <<
"scatta il gioco della bottiglia / se avrò culo potrò / tu non
giochi,abbiam fatto le squadre prima" 25 Maggio  2005 -  We'll never
rotfl enough Club - Tessera N° 48

ROTFLMAO!!!!
U S0 cl3v3rm tu muts b3 teh haxx0e\r!
Dork.

of Milan was The Italian Job (the original, not the remake).
E adesso chi glielo dice al tipo che quella era Torino? ;)
Lassa pur ch'el mond el disa
ma Milan l'e' un gran Milan...
-  Wurrunna
Milan Inside

<snipped ridiculous conversation comparing a country with thousands of years
of history against a country with a couple of hundred years of history>
WTF? I've been ignoring this thread and decided to peek in. Ummmm, who gives
a rat's ass about Milan? One word: Mussolini. I love it when you
dictator-loving candy ass Europe-lovers start blowing your horns about how
horrible our fucking country is.
Leave it to a bunch of mullet-donning, flannel wearing toothless redneck
European cast-offs to put an end to an arrogant English monarchy only to
come back and save all of your asses from speaking Kraut and living in fear
of genocide.
If there's such a freakin' problem with our "lack of culture", why don't you
do something positive and proactive about it instead of sitting there
bitching about it. I mean, it seems to be a sore spot. If you hate it so
much, why focus on it so much? What does that say about you?
I'd be willing to bet the source of your agony and heartache has a lot to do
with the fact that you can't figure out for the life of you how the Shelby
Cobra came out and smoked those overpriced Italian eurojob sportscars on the
track.
Damn those Americans anyway for going over there wearing their plaid shorts
with white socks and dumping massive amounts of money into the European
economy by visiting the most typical of tourist attractions instead of
staying home and preaching the gospel of fine Italian fashion.
As for "American Fatball", it's a damn exciting sport to watch. And yet
there are still some of us who can appreciate (and who might even have
played) that OTHER game that goes by the same name. You know what? We
typically don't kill each other over a game.
Oh no!!! We have gas-stations. ACK!!! The world's gonna end!!! The world's
gonna end!!!!!
Get a fucking life. If you don't like Tampa, don't come to Tampa. If you
have to boost your feeble ego by pounding your chest and declaring your
favorite city the best ever, you have bigger problems than culture.
To each his own, but AFAIC, this thread is a waste of bandwidth.......
Graham

 Vienna (YUM), Barcelona, and many many more...
ok, close the circle and go back to Tampax

 As for "American Fatball", it's a damn exciting sport to watch.
lol, funny as hammering the balls

 doesn't suck?  Nope.
read above.
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 Graham
and you decided to waste some more bandwidth?
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wrote:
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You're pretty clever.  Did you think that up yourself or did your big
brother help you with it?

read above.
Read above.  Milan sucks.

true,really disgusting.
Not as bad as Germans.

 Not as bad as Germans.
oh man,so true.
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 Read above.  Milan sucks.
ok,i see i can't explain my point of view with my poor english,so this is
useless. If you like to think and say milan sucks,you're absolutely free to
do that,afterall.
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that town.
You can bet.
It's a fact that Milan ain't for everybody. It's a city that often
hides its many beauties. Most of the city is grey, dull,
over-trafficked and noisy.
But Tokyo is also grey and dull, much more than Milan, and still, Tokyo
is one of the most intriguing places I've ever been!
Evryone is entitled to thir opinions, but defining Milano as a place
"without a soul" is a superficial analysis - at best.
It may be true only in the sense that Milano is a city of many souls,
from the charming alleys in Brera, to the bustling hive of the business
quarters, to the multicultural network of ethnic restaurants, to the
night-lit banks along the Naviglio, to the classy high-fashion botiques
and exclusive nightclubs, to the old trattorias and bars in the suburbs
where people still gather to play cards and talk in "milanese" like in
days of yore.
It can boast what is probably the most incredible cathedral in the
world, one of the best preserved castles in Italy, an impressive
cultural and artistic heritage, a lively nightlife, quiet corners full
of atmosphere, a young and cosmpolitan population, a great sports
scene, all kinds of live music from huge events to small, "off" jazz
bars.
Of course appreciating all of this requires time, a keen eye, maybe a
bit of exploration and a desire to get in touch with a different way of
life.
So if you don't like Milan, that's fine. There's a minority of people
who agree with you, after all. But just repeating "Milan stinks like a
decomposed rat's armpit", with little or no motivations, and maybe even
less understanding of what you're talking about, won't exactly earn you
a reputation as a sophisticated opinionist.
- Wurrunna
Milano, Italia.

 earn you a reputation as a sophisticated opinionist.
i appreciated your post very,very much.
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You can, depending on your definition of good food. I was born and
grew up in Rome, I lived 7 years in Milan (and much to both of your
amazement actually grew to really like the city - to say it is without
soul is a gross superficialism) 4/5 yerars in London and now, the last
4/5 years in San Francisco.
Why San Francisco, NY or London make the list of the best food
capitals in the world is simply variety. Things are changing now, but
when I grew up in Rome , in Rome there was simply no alternative food
to Roman or other Italian regional food. Don't get me wrong - the food
was excellent, but they only offered up one slice of the huge grand
cuisines of the world. About 10 years ago things, at least in Milan
started to change - Italians were travelling more, they discovered
Sushi, thai lemongrass, tandoori ovens, soft marisco tacos, indonesian
rijsttafel, etc and slowly the choice has opened up.
Going back to London, San Francisco or New York, their place in any
food lover's Top Ten list is because , being born from immigrants (or,
in the case of London, any strong national cusine as a barrier to
entry) they offer choice at very high levels.
Tonight i can choose if I want Dungeness Crab (ok, ok, in a few months
time....), a superb Vietnamese Pho, a taco with perfect Carnitas,
mouth melting sashimi, a fiery Phaal or a neapolitan approved pizza
(with flown-in mozzarella di bufala). And the best thing of being an
immigrant born city is that the Taco van and its Carnitas and lengua
remind me of the quality and love for good food as did the porchettaro
at the Orte exit on the autostrada.

 at the Orte exit on the autostrada.
capirai,er porchettaro.... now i understand your post :D
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obtain a good pizza. But ok,pizza after all ain't hard to prepare. But
Yes, and there are 3 restaurants in San Francisco which are certified
by the Consorzio Vera Pizza Napoletana because they have correct
wood-burning ovens, use only San marzano tomatoes, use Buffalo
-mozzarella, and don't cover their pizza's in kilos of crap.

 -mozzarella, and don't cover their pizza's in kilos of crap.
this is good to know. Unfortunately,the consorzio blablabla is just one of
those pathetic labels given to sponsor a restaurant. But ok,long story,i
guess.
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do that,afterall.
Thanks.  I will.

satisfied in a touristic restaurant 3 meters from the railway station).
Again, the San Francisco Bay Area pioneered the fresh organic and
locally grown produce movement in the U.S.  Most of the food at local
restaurants is of quite high quality.

 restaurants is of quite high quality.
i'm sure about it. But there's a difference between what you said here and
above.
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 Thanks.  I will.
great. don't you dare to die in the next 2-3 years because of Mcdonald,you
would break my heart.
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food. But nevermind,it's 5 am...
I am sure you can come up with the examples of great italian food that
isn't born of simplicity...

 isn't born of simplicity...
risotto allo zafferano,spumante,agnello/tacchino/vitello in salsa tonnata -
sparati in 3 secondi. Ce ne saranno altri sedicimila,dai..
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 risotto allo spumante
e comunque,quanti ne vuoi che non possono essere considerati cucina povera.
Certo,per l'alta cucina la francia sta avanti,ma cucina non "alta" non
significa per forza "povera".
Povera come la vedo io è quella romana,a base di scarti (spesso di
macelleria,provenienti dal macello stesso,che poi sono diventate specialità
incredibili).
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i appreciated your post very,very much.
Mi fa piacere. :) 
- Wurrunna

 - Wurrunna
:) apprezzo le persone intelligenti,per intelligenti intendo anche quelle
persone in grado di andare oltre i luoghi comuni,quelle che "provare prima
di parlare". Come detto,spesso non sono così,quindi leggere te è una
salvezza :D
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di parlare". 
peccato, pero', che certi luoghi comuni, ("That's why i can't talk to
americans about food.") non li eviti...

 americans about food.") non li eviti...
non a caso ho puntualizzato che spesso anche io commetto lo stesso errore.
Fossi stato più attento,te ne saresti accorto. Medice,cura te ipso.
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