Newsgroup: it.discussioni.auto
Titolo: [OT] Consiglio su annuncio di vendita

Scusate l'OT, ma ho una domanda a proposito di un annuncio di vendita
che avevo postato su it.annunci.usato autoveicoli e su JagAds.com. 
Mi hanno risposto tre persone:
1) "Hello,
 I am a Citizen of AUSTRALIA and am a business man,i
purchase Cars,part,scooter,tractors,engines and other
automobile parts.I came across your advert at
(
www.jagads.com
).Am interested in buying your (  Alloys
JNothelle Exedra II new)I want you to tell me the
actual price you want to sell it.I will also arrange
for the shipment.
 Most important,i need your your full name and address
in which
the check for the payment will be send to,
 The details needed for payment are below:
Your Full Name: That will be on the check for the payment
Residential Address:
City:
State:
Zipcode:
Country:
Phone Number: ( Cell,home and office phone #)
As soon as i get these details,payment will be made out
and send after our discussions.
Awaiting your reply"
2) "Hello seller,
Am interested in your ads i will like you to get back 
with the last price to me asap"
3) " I'm interested in your advert,and would like you to 
get back to
me with more info and price.
 tony"
Ho poi risposto a tutti e tre con un testo standard (in pratica la
ripetizione dell'annuncio), senza dare le mie generalitá. Ecco le
risposte:
1) "Thanks for your mail.I am ok with the price.I need your full name
and address including your phone number  so that payment can be made and
aswell sent.
Moreover,like i have stated in my previous mail,i will arrenge for the
shipment,so do not worry about that.
I will look forward to receive your details so that payment can be made
out and aswell sent as soon as possible."
2) "Thanks very much for your email and have made arrangement for the 
shippment of the Alloy wheels "JNothelle Exedra  my shipper will be
coming for the pick up as soon as you have the cheque probably by next
week.
    This is how the payment will be made a client of mine in the euro is
oweing me sum fund in euro 7000, i will instruct him to issue a cheque
in your name and once you received the check You will deduct the cost of
the Alloy wheels "JNothelle Exedra any tax incurred and my balance will
be send back to my shipper via western union money transfer for
immediate shipping arrangement if you are okay with this transaction
kindly send me your full name and address,phone number so that i can
forwad it to my client to issue the cheque to you asap.The reason for
this is that is my client in euro is owing me that is why and i want you
to know that business in this life is all about trust that is why?i want
my client to issue the check to you.
      If this is okay with you do get back to me asap for me to 
instruct my client to issue the cheque in your name asap. Thanks for
your understanding in anticipation and hope to read this information
from you below:
 FULL NAME----
 ADRESS------
 CELL PHONE---
 HOME PHONE----
 CITY----
 ZIP CODE---
 COUNTRY----"
A parte l'ultima risposta della quale non ho capito praticamente niente,
anche tutte le altre mi sembrano molto sospette. Nessuna trattativa sul
prezzo, nessuna richiesta di foto... la cosa mi puzza. Voi che fareste?
Grazie e ciao,
Wini

 purchase Cars,part,scooter,tractors,engines and other
C'erano già state discussioni qua su IDA in merito ad argomenti simili, mi
pare.
Sempre gente straniera che rispondeva agli annunci di automobili, ma non so
come sono andati a finire.
Io fossi in te non andrei troppo oltre.

  COUNTRY----"
Come già detto nel messaggio precedente, non mi impiccerei.

 prezzo, nessuna richiesta di foto... la cosa mi puzza. Voi che fareste?
sai cosa sembrano? delle banali email di spam... assomigliano a quello
forse è per questo che ti suonano strane, in effetti tolte dal contesto
potresti postarle come spam senza che si noti differenza dai soliti...
mah
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 solamente ad avere i tuoi dati
Anch'io ho avuto questa impressione! Molto probabilmente si tratta di
una specie di truffa, perchè nel frattempo mi è arrivata anche la
risposta della terza persona:
"Hello  
thanks for your mail, i want you to know that the price 3.700 
euro.is
okay with me.Inrespect of payment i have a client in the U.S who is
owing me 10,000euro.All i need to do to make payment easier and faster
is to instruct him to issue a cashiers check and mail it to you on the
address and name you want on the check and you know it takes 24hrs for a
cashiers check to clear in the U.S.But i would want to know if i can
trust you to send my balance to me via western union or money gram after
the money must have cleared in your bank to enable me prepay the
shipping company here so that they can instruct their office in the U.S
to come and pick-up the  from your location.pls mail me asap to enable
me arrange 
payment.Furnish me with your name and address,phone,so i will forward it
to my 
client for payment.
Thanks,
tony"
Qui è chiarissimo che qualcosa non quadra, anche perchè questo tizio
sostiene addirittura di volermi pagare 3.700 euro per i cerchi, quando
questo è il prezzo di listino, mentre io avevo chiesto solo 1.400.
Cestinerò queste mail quanto prima...
Ciao,
Wini

 potresti postarle come spam senza che si noti differenza dai soliti...
Nella prima email l'oggetto della vendita č stato inserito fra
parentesi, nelle altre non compare neanche. Anche questo mi ha fatto
insospettire.
Ormai ho la certezza che si tratta di una truffa (vedi risposta a
mechamaniac).
Ciao,
Wini 

Ragzzi, mi collego al post perchè mi è appena successa una cosa simile.
Ho messo l'annuncio su autoscout24 ieri sera e stamattina mi è arrivata
questa mail:
"Someone has inquired about your car listing on AutoScout24
An AutoScout24 User is interested in your car listing and has sent you this
e-mail.
In particular, the user has expressed an interest in your following car:
FIAT Barchetta , Convertible, 04/1996
Red, 119000 km, EUR 7900,-
Please contact this person:
Name: xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx (le x le ho messe io:-) )
E-Mail: 
xxxxxxx...@excite.com
Telephone: .
Following are specific questions this person has asked about your car:
Hello
Your advertised car has matched a client's quest.
He is a diplomat here in london and is willing to negotiate
with you over the car.Please kindly reply and let us know
if the car is still available.
If it is still available please send some more elaborating photos
of the car
Also state the last price you
wish to achieve.And why you want to sell the car.
Hope to hear from you soon.
xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx
For AMB(cars) International
280 Highroad,
Willsden Green.
London NW10 2EY
Best Regards,
Your AutoScout24 Team"
Che dite? A me non interessa esportarla, ed anche se ancora non mi ha
chiesto i  dati personali, mi sembano mail più o meno dello stesso tono
delle vostre, lascio perdere o rispondo?
-- 
Alessandro (30, 135+, VI)
barchetta H&R +  Remus equipped driver & lover IN VENDITA

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:1gj4vqi.ra5nb9162bwn6N%SKIPPE...@rmi.it...
quella qui sotto mi e' arrivata molto simile 1 minuto fa in email, io gli
rispondo di chiamarmi e ne parliamo.... se parla inglese non ho problemi :P
Il problema e' che con questo giro di assegni e' che non vorrei finire in un
casino per  4000 euro.... inoltre nel mo caso non capisco bene come funziona
con il pass. di proprietą.....
Mah!
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