Newsgroup: it.discussioni.auto
Titolo: nuova serie 5 bmw

Qualcuno conosce dei siti di anteprima oltre a:
http://www.infomotori.com/a_8_IT_1193_1.html
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http://www.infomotori.com/a_8_IT_1193_1.html
A parte le foto che sono simboliche.,.....
mi stupiscono le notizie sui motori che mi sembrano
sinceramente un po' "strane". un V8 4000 da 250Cv, un 6 cilindri
biturbo (?) e la M5 con il V10 derivato dalla F1 :-OOO
Lorenzo "Huhi" Corsani (27;136,231,137 FI)
320d, 911 Carrera 3.2, Clio16V N3
 

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| mi stupiscono le notizie sui motori che mi sembrano
| sinceramente un po' "strane". un V8 4000 da 250Cv, un 6 cilindri
Se è il V8 4000 diesel penso che ne vedremo molto poche e dovremo
accontentarci delle 3000 V6.
Se hai letto il mio 3d sui diesel euro 4.
BMW produce non più di 2000 esemplari di V8 4000 diesel.
Se la ordini oggi forse nel 2008 puoi chiedere le targhe.
:oP
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| Lorenzo "Huhi" Corsani (27;136,231,137 FI)
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ciaooooooooooooooooooo
Gaeel 27 - 130+ - Vi
"La velocità è piacevolissima per se sola, cioè per la vivacità, la forza,
la vita di tal sensazione.
Essa desta realmente una quasi idea dell'infinito, sublima l'anima, la
fortifica".
Giacomo Leopardi. Zibaldone.

 biturbo (?) e la M5 con il V10 derivato dalla F1 :-OOO
Guarda che la BMW (Alpina) ha in listino la D10 3.0d: 3000cc, 6 cilindri,
biturbo, 231CV.
Ciao
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MH
(18,150,55,TV)
BMW 320i & Y10 1.1 i.e. LX Driver
Seat Ibiza 1.4 16V Sport 3p (Waiting...)
Seat & BMW lover

accontentarci delle 3000 V6.
No, si parla di benzina ! Per il diesel parlano solo dei noti motori
attuali.....
Ma mi stupisce di piů leggere di un 6 cilindri biturbo che non ha
senso nella storia attuale dei motori BMW (cosě improntati sulla
ricerca degli aspirati).....
Lorenzo "Huhi" Corsani (27;136,231,137 FI)
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biturbo, 231CV.
Lo so, si tratta del 3000d elaborato. Ma nell'articolo si parla di
motori a benzina, da quello che ho capito (da qui il mio dubbio).
Solo infondo all'articolo cita i diesel: copio&incollo:
[...] Dalla divisione sportiva “Motorsport” si attende invece una “M5”
da GP con 10 cilindri in grado di erogare 500 CV, mentre i più
“tranquilli” potranno scegliere un sei cilindri biturbo da quasi 400
puledri.
La gamma motori benzina partirà dal 2200 da 170 CV, per salire quindi
al 2500 (192 CV) e 3000 (231 CV), mentre il diesel “entry level”
resterà il 2 litri da 150 CV che già ora si può apprezzare sulla 320d
[...]
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Ciao "Lorenzo "HUHI" Corsani"
When BMW's fourth-generation 5 Series rolls out at the Frankfurt motor show
in September 2003 it will feature a new 380-hp, twin-turbo 3.0-liter inline
six-cylinder engine. The next-generation sedan (E60) inherits many features
from the latest 7 Series such as a shift-by-wire six-speed automatic, active
roll stabilization and a simplified version of the iDrive system controller.
BMW will follow in 2005 with a 500-hp 5.5-liter V10-powered M5 designed to
provide the M5 with a direct link to BMW's F1 involvement with Williams.
The new engine is part of a range of hot turbocharged units being readied by
BMW to place Munich's new mid-ranger in direct competition with the Audi S6,
Jaguar S-Type R and Mercedes-Benz E500 without the additional weight brought
on by slotting a large capacity V8 engine under its bonnet.
Joining the twin-turbo six in the new 5 Series line-up will be a wide range
of engines. They include the recently introduced 2.0-litre inline four
together with heavily upgraded versions of BMW's highly rated 2.2-, 2.5 and
3.0-litre inline six-cylinder engines. At the upper end of the lineup will
be the 3.6-litre and 4.5-litre V8 engines used in the 7 Series. Already
equipped with Valvetronic, they will be upgraded to include the new
direct-injection system unveiled by BMW on the 760i at last year's Frankfurt
motor show.
Details remain scarce 18 months out from launch, though sources at BMW's R&D
center say the twin-turbo six will provide a sporty sedan variant of the new
5 Series with performance on par with the M5. That means 0-60 mph
acceleration in the 5.5-second range and an electronically limited 155 mph
top speed. The best part, however, is the news that the new BMW will cost a
good deal less than today's M5.
The fourth generation 5 Series will have its work cut out emulating the
success of today's car, which until the arrival of Mercedes-Benz's new
E-class had dominated the toughly fought executive car ranks. Still, BMW
looks to have done its homework with the new car, providing it with advanced
new hybrid construction together with hi-tech underpinnings, sporty new
styling and the breadth of performance to match even the keenest of rivals.
These sketches, supplied by BMW's own design team in Munich, expose the
appearance of the new car, which will also be sold in touring guise from
early 2004. Easing fears the new car would simply be a scaled down version
of the controversial 7 Series, they reveal a svelte new shape that's aimed
at countering criticism of today's conservatively styled model, which dates
back to 1995.
The overall look is modern and aggressive, in keeping with BMW's design
chief Chris Bangle's aim to get away from what he dubs the "one sausage in
different lengths" appearance that has characterized the German car maker's
line-up in recent years. Shapely headlamps that wrap back into the leading
edge, a classy interpretation of BMW's classic kidney grille and a heavily
contoured bonnet dominate the high mounted front-end to give the car instant
presence.
A heavily raked windscreen combines with a wildly curved roofline and
notchback-style rear end to set up a coupe-like silhouette. BMW's own
artwork reveals the boot is high but less imposing than that seen on the new
7 Series.
Other features include a sharp swage along the side running from the
headlamps back to the curvy tail lamps along with an unusual surface
treatment that uses a mixture of convex and concave forms to provide what
Bangle describes as "visual movement" when light falls on the car.
Dimensionally, the new 5 Series does not stray too far from today's car with
only a moderate increase in length, width and height. The biggest change is
the slight wheelbase increase, which should mean improved levels of interior
accommodation, especially in the rear where legroom needs improving if the
new BMW is to match the executive class competition for space.
Underneath its stylish bodywork, the new 5 Series gets advanced hybrid
construction in a bid to shed weight provide even better handling response
than today's highly lauded model. The front section is based around a
lightweight aluminum space frame. The new approach lends expertise from the
limited volume Z8 and upcoming Rolls Royce - both of which boast full space
frame construction. The remainder is conventional monocoque, though the
liberal use of lightweight steel, tailored blanks and a high percentage of
aluminum within the (MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear) suspension
will result in a lower overall weight than today's 5 Series, insiders say.
Underpinning the new 5 Series is a brand new rear-wheel drive platform that
shares many components with that used underneath the 7 Series. Although
going without the brake-by-wire stoppers used by the Mercedes-Benz E-class,
the new BMW will still offer a host of advanced features. Among them a
revolutionary new steering system from ZF that automatically corrects the
angle of the front wheels in hefty side winds and under heavy braking for
improved traction.
Also earmarked for upper end models are the automatic damping control and
dynamic drive systems launched on the 7 Series late last year. Following
heavy criticism of the much vaunted iDrive system unveiled on its flagship
saloon, BMW has overhauled it for use in the new 5 Series. Insiders say the
celebrated rotary dial will remain an integral part of the overall interior
package. However, it will be combined with an improved menu, with features
such as stability and traction control accessible through a simple press of
a button rather than a long scroll through the iDrive's system.
Ciao
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Cristian (MI,34,143) PULL  ANNO III d.C.   dO O   (||||)°(||||)   O Ob
http://communities.msn.it/IlmondodelDrPianale
Il diesel è il MALE, il Dottor Pianale è la CURA....

 resterà il 2 litri da 150 CV che già ora si può apprezzare sulla 320d
Noooooooo, stanno arrivano i Valvetronic 6 cilindri:
2.2 => 180CV
2.8 => 205CV
3.0 => 240CV
L'ho letto su "Al Volante"
:-)
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Per tua informazione fino ad alcuni anni fà, la bmw produceva auto di serie
6 cilindri turbo benzina.
c'era il 735i ed il 535i

 c'era il 735i ed il 535i
Di turbo a benzina BMW ce ne sono state due: la 2002 turbo, del 1974 - 
la prima automobile turbocompressa della storia, la 930 e' arrivata 
qualche mese dopo - e la 745i, 3200 poi 3500 montato sulla serie 7 pre-
E32 perche' il V12 previsto aveva avuto problemi. Non c'e' mai stata una 
serie 5 con il turbo di fabbrica.
LF

c'era il 735i ed il 535i
Purtroppo quelle che citi non erano turbo, però è vero che il 3500 di
cui parli aveva ricevuto una turbina sulla 745i.
Non mi stupisco del fatto che BMW pensi ad un turbo (ricordiamoci
dell'importanza storica della pur fragile 2002 Turbo) ma mi stupisce
la mossa di preferire un biturbo più compatto rispetto al grosso V8 da
400Cv che oggi conosciamo. Probabilmente saranno 2 piccole turbine a
bassa pressione che renderanno potente "sempre" il 6L....
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Grazie Cristiano, dove hai preso questo pezzo ???
che ne pensi ?
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