Newsgroup: it.sport.arti-marziali
Titolo: [Yang] il figlio di Tian Zhaolin negli UK

Per chi ne avesse il tempo consiglio il seminario in programma negli UK.
La famiglia Tian conserva parecchie delle pratiche tradizionali degli
Yang, che si trovano altrove solo tra alcuni discendenti di
Banhou/Jianhou/Shahou. 
Pur non avendo IMHO il potere di altri discendenti, ho conosciuto Yingjia
molti anni fa', credo possa essere una buona occasione per conoscere
perlomeno a livello educazionale parte del curriculum degli Yang
sconosciuto in Europa.
saluti
YM
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During September this year Tian Yingjia and his son Tian Bingyuan and 
his primary student Yao Guoqin are making a visit to the UK (subject 
to exit and entry visas). They will be over here for two weeks to do 
a series of evening demonstrations and an all day Saturday seminars 
in the Northern home counties of Essex, Hertfordshire and 
Bedfordshire. Dems at Chelmsford (Sunday) - Luton (Monday) - Harlow 
(Tuesday) - Letchworth (Wednesday) - Colchester (Thursday) - 
Upminster (Friday) - and the seminar on Yang Jianhou's Middle Frame 
at Epping (Saturday) all dates to be finalised. Prices will be based 
only on break-even to pay for the costs and trip at the request of 
Tian Yingjia (a pretty unique attitude IMO).
An article published in the US in Tai-Chi magazine a while back 
written by Leroy Clark and Key Sun called "Two Red Lanterns" went 
into the history and knowledge of this branch of Yang family and more 
will be posted through the summer. Basically second generation Yang 
family head (gatekeeper) Yang Jianhou (Chien Hou) adopted a young boy 
Tian Zhaolin into the family to train up as family representative for 
competition and challenge work. In this role over the years he 
acquired great and profound knowledge, this knowledge has never been 
made available in the west, which is the main reason we wish to help 
Tian Yingjia (Zhaolin's 74 year old son and successor) in his trip 
here. All will be welcome to attend the dems, but the seminar will be 
restricted to those who have had at least 5 years knowledge of Large 
Frame in order to reach the stage where they will be able to work 
with the authentic Middle Frame. Tian Yingjia in my opinion is quite 
unique in the fact that he genuinely wants to share his knowledge in 
the west with none of the usually seen secrecy and need for 
commitment before anything of any importance is shown. He has stated 
very firmly that nothing will be held back and that his knowledge 
will not be held as a marketing tool within any school (including 
mine) and is supplementary and complimentary to all existing training.
As you can see from the above schedule, there will spare days during 
the two weeks. If any Yang Style or derivative (as in Wu, Hao, Sun or 
Beijing styles) masters / instructors from other parts of the UK 
would like to host an evening demonstration or wish to attend either 
seminar or dem please contact me at 
tai...@supanet.com
It is very unusual and in my opinion unique, apart from maybe the 
visit of Ip Tai Tak to the UK 4 years ago, for someone of this level 
and stature within the Yang Lineage to come to the UK and is in fact 
his only and likely to be his only trip out of China. So as an event 
it is very important to all Yang students.
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 YM
Grazie!!
Si trova qualcosa in rete su questa famiglia??
Leo

 Si trova qualcosa in rete su questa famiglia??
in inglese credo solo lo (gli) articolo(i) di Leroy che trovi menzionati
piu' sopra
la rivista cinese Jingwu ha dedicato un numero completo a Tian Yingjia
qualche anno fa
YM
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 YM
Gia'......e magari c'è pure un numero tradotto che si trova online?!? :-))))
Leo

 with the authentic Middle Frame.
Qui che s'intende per Large e Middle Frame?
ciao
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Inviato via 
http://arianna.libero.it/usenet/

 Qui che s'intende per Large e Middle Frame?
con Large Frame intendono la forma + comune i.e. la forma "di Yang Chengfu"
con Middle Frame intendono la forma introduttiva degli Yang, la prima forma
che si studia tradizionalmente
quella dei Tian e' praticamente uguale a quella degli altri discendenti, la
forma "pubblica"
la riconosci subito perche' fanno un doppio passo all'inizio, lanquewei sx
+dx +sx + dx + i 4 angoli
YM

 +dx +sx + dx + i 4 angoli
[SNIP]
Vuoi dire che la middle frame differisce dalla Large frame solo per il
doppio passo all'inizo o per altro o che quella dei Tian differisce dalle
altre dei discendenti di YBH per questo doppio passo ?
grazie per i chiarimenti. ;-)))
Lü dongbin
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omnia mutantur

 altre dei discendenti di YBH per questo doppio passo ?
dicevo la riconosci "subito"
cioe' che se la vedi ti accorgi subito che non e' una delle mille varianti
della Large per via del doppio passo
comunque la Large deriva da questa, quindi in generale sono piuttosto simili
YM