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Titolo: tocca andare sulla stampa estera per capire cosa succede in Italia

e siamo a 3 decadi perdute:
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/11/imf-warns-italy-of-two-decade-long-recession
 

 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/11/imf-warns-italy-of-two-decade-long-recession
 
 
Ma è ovvio, come poteva essere altrimenti? Solo che non ho capito
con chi intendi prendertela. Se vuoi dire che è meglio votare M5S,
dillo chiaro. Però a Di Maio la soffiata su Gaza non gliel'hai fatta.
 
Bye,
 
   *GB*

 con chi intendi prendertela. 
 
con chi nasconde queste notizie.

 con chi nasconde queste notizie.
 
Allora tiriamole fuori. Ne aveva già parlato 3 anni fa Roberto Orsi...
nota che l'"immensely degraded political culture of the country’s elite"
giustificherebbe la ghigliottinazione di forzisti, leghisti, montiani
e piddini (nonché di un buon numero di magistrati, che sono essi stessi
all'origine di tale degrado con il devastante manettismo dipietresco
che ha distrutto il sistema politico della tarda prima repubblica
senza però sostituirlo con uno migliore, bensì con due peggiori).
 
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/eurocrisispress/2013/04/23/the-quiet-collapse-of-the-italian-economy/
 
 
   The Quiet Collapse of the Italian Economy
 
   While attention on the Euro crisis has been focusing primarily on
   Greece and Cyprus, it is no mystery that Italy, alongside with Spain,
   constitutes the real challenge for the future of the common currency,
   in any direction events will be unfolding.  In the relative silence
   of the international press, Italy’s macroeconomic situation has been
   showing no sign of improvement, and indeed numerous indicators
   portray a national economy which finds itself in a depression,
   rather than in a however severe recession. It is no overstatement
   that the Italian economy is currently collapsing.
 
    [...]
 
   The truth is that the Italian state went bankrupt in summer 2011,
   when interest rates on the national debt went out of control, and
   as a result Italy lost access to the financial markets. Of course,
   because of the sheer dimensions of Italy as an economy and as a
   debtor, the ECB and political authorities in Europe have agreed
   to create around the country’s finances the appearance of a market,
   which is in fact, as the numbers above show, largely artificial.
   Ideally, Italy should stay on this artificial support until the
   economic conditions improve and confidence is restored to such
   a level that the country will have again access to a “normal”
   credit market.
 
    [...]
 
   The Italian state has so far managed to defend its financial position
   by means of increased taxation, limited spending cuts and more
   borrowing. As illustrated above, the borrowing scheme has been
   engineered with the help of the ECB and the banking sector.
   Taxation has now reached unprecedented levels, and it is asphyxiating
   the economy together with the credit crunch. Spending cuts have
   been implemented to a certain extent, but like taxes they have a
   depressing effect on the economy, not to mention their unviability
   in a largely clientelistic, if not openly kleptocratic system.
 
   Under pressure from the European Union, Italy has committed to
   a rigorous budget and it has even introduced a balanced-budget
   amendment in its constitution. Absurdly, the Italian state runs
   a surplus when public debt interest payments are excluded, but
   this only appears to be because, purely and simply, the state often
   “forgets” to pay its suppliers (the outstanding debt to private
   companies is in the €90-€130 billion range, depending on the criteria
   for calculation).
 
   Now, it is not difficult to imagine that, in a few months, despite
   the new taxes, the sheer collapse of entire sectors of the economy
   will cause a rapid contraction of tax revenues. The Italian state
   cannot possibly accumulate even more debt at a faster pace (at least
   for Italy, the austerity debate makes little sense). Italy will
   simply run out of options, and it will require additional measures
   from the EU. Essentially, some sort of bailout. But because of
   the sheer size of the economy  and the public debt, this is simply
   impossible. In the absence of any political consensus around a
   radically different monetary policy of the ECB, i.e. unlimited QE,
   which will probably never materialise, and which will clearly not
   solve any of the country’s structural problems, the only realistic
   scenario will be that of a debt restructuring or renegotiation, as
   suggested by Nouriel Roubini in a precise analysis published more
   than 18 months ago. The collapse of the Italian state finances is
   rapidly approaching. It will have an enormous impact on the Eurozone
   and the European Union.
 
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/eurocrisispress/2013/10/08/the-demise-of-italy-and-the-rise-of-chaos/
 
 
   The Demise of Italy and the Rise of Chaos
 
   Future historians will probably regard Italy as the perfect showcase
   of a country which has managed to sink from the position of a
   prosperous, leading industrial nation just two decades ago to a
   condition of unchallenged economic desertification, total demographic
   mismanagement, rampant “thirdworldisation”, plummeting cultural
   production and a complete political-constitutional chaos.
 
    [...]
 
   A recent study indicates that 15% of Italy’s manufacturing industry,
   which before the crisis was the largest in Europe after Germany’s,
   has been destroyed, and about 32,000 companies have disappeared.
   This data alone shows the immense amount of essentially irreparable
   damage which the country is undergoing. In the author’s view, this
   situation has its roots in the immensely degraded political culture
   of the country’s elite, which, in the last few decades, has
   negotiated and signed countless international agreements and treaties
   without ever considering the real economic interest of the country
   and without any meaningful planning of the nation’s future. Italy
   could not have entered the last wave of globalisation under worse
   conditions. The country’s leadership never recognised that
   indiscriminate opening to Asia’s light industrial products would
   destroy Italy’s once leading industries in the same sectors. They
   signed the euro treaties promising to the European partners reforms
   which have never been implemented, but fully committing themselves
   to austerity policies. They signed the Dublin Regulation on EU
   borders knowing perfectly well that Italy is not even remotely able
   (as shown by the continuous influx of illegal migrants in Lampedusa
   and the inevitable deadly incidents) to patrol and protect its
   borders. Consequently, Italy has found itself locked up in a web of
   legal structures which are making the complete demise of the nation
   practically certain.
 
   Italy has currently the highest taxation levels on companies in the
   EU and one of the highest in the world. This factor, together with a
   fatal mix of awful financial management, inadequate infrastructure,
   ubiquitous corruption and an inefficient bureaucracy, which includes
   the slowest and most unreliable justice system in Europe, is pushing
   all remaining entrepreneurs out of the country. This time not only
   towards cheap labour destinations, such as East or South Asia,
   but a large flux of Italian companies is pouring in neighbouring
   Switzerland and Austria, where, despite the relatively high labour
   costs, companies will find a real state cooperating with them,
   instead of sabotaging them.  [...]
 
   The demise of Italy as an industrial nation is also reflected by the
   unprecedented level of brain drain, with tens of thousands young
   researchers, scientists, technicians emigrating to Germany, France,
   Britain, Scandinavia, as well as to North America and East Asia.
 
   In sum, everybody in the country producing anything of value,
   together with most of the educated people is leaving, planning to
   leave, or would like to leave. Indeed, Italy has become a place for
   some sort of demographic pillaging from the perspective of other,
   more organised countries, which have long seen the opportunity
   to easily attract highly qualified workers, often trained at the
   expenses of the Italian state, simply by offering them resonable
   economic prospects which they will never see if they remain in Italy.
 
   All this seems not to preoccupy the Italian political leadership.
   On the one hand, the country is the prisoner of a cultural duopoly:
   it is either the Catholic culture, or the socialist culture. Both
   are preoccupied with universal ambitions (somehow eschatological
   and increasingly anti-modernist) which make the national perspective
   unviable to them. Indeed, the Italian state was created by liberal-
   conservative and monarchist modernists, sometimes animated by
   virulent forms of anticlericalism, essentially the opposite of the
   current political elite. It is not surprising that what the former
   accomplished gets dismantled by the latter. The problem is not so
   much, however, the dismantling of the nation state, but that the
   nation state is not going to be replaced by any meaningful political
   project, leaving its space, essentially, to chaos.
 
    [...]
 
   The current leadership, both technocratic and political, has no
   ability, and perhaps even no intention, to save the country from
   ruin. On the contrary, it would be easy to argue that Monti’s
   policies have exacerbated the already severe recession. Letta is
   following exactly the same path. But everything has to be sacrificed
   in the name of stability. The technocrats share the same cultural
   backgrounds of the political parties, and in symbiosis with them have
   managed to rise to their current positions: it is therefore hopeless
   to think that they will obtain better results, since they are also
   unable to have any sort of long term vision for the country.
   They are actually the guarantors of Italy’s demise.
 
   In conclusion, the rapidity of the decline is truly breathtaking.
   This is certainly not exclusive to Italy, as arguably most if not all
   Western countries are undergoing rampant thirdworldisation. Italy
   has simply less economic and social “capital” to burn in comparison
   to Germany and other Nordic countries. But it must be clear that,
   continuing on this way, there will be nothing left of Italy as a
   modern industrial nation in less than a generation. But just in
   another decade or so entire regions of the country, such as Sardinia
   or Liguria, will be so much demographically compromised that they
   may never recover. The founders of the Italian state one hundred
   and fifty-two years ago had fought and even died hoping to bring
   Italy back to a central position as a cultural and economic
   powerhouse within the Western world, as the one it occupied in the
   late Middle Ages and Renaissance. That project has now completely
   failed, with the abandonment the very cultural idea of having any
   meaningful political ambition going beyond the sheer day-to-day
   management on the one hand, and the messianic (but effectively
   pointless) universalism of saving the world on the other even
   at the expenses of one’s own political community. Unless some
   sort of miracle occurs, it may take centuries to reconstruct Italy.
   At the moment, it seems to be a completely lost cause.
 
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/eurocrisispress/2014/10/01/why-italy-will-not-make-it/
 
 
   Why Italy Will Not Make It
 
    [...]
 
   To this day, reform proposals advanced by the various Italian
   governments remain unambitious, without a clear logic, and
   programmatically slow-paced, even if they were ever to be adopted and
   implemented. They remain chained to the sinking ship of old-fashioned
   neo-liberal doctrines when their time has long passed.
 
   This is not surprising considering that any reform should stem from
   a vision of the future of the country, now entirely missing, and
   which, within the political-cultural horizon not only of Italy, but
   of the EU, is essentially unviable. The drift towards increasingly
   abstract-legalistic conceptions (again, de-politicised) of the
   political community have reduced the image of the country to a sheer
   financial and fiscal balance sheet. Working and accepting sacrifices
   for the betterment of a thus conceived state, accepting almost-heroic
   level of economic and personal sacrifice, or even being among its
   citizens (whatever this may still mean) is certainly undesirable.
 
   And besides all these considerations, reforms, even if they were
   implemented, even if they were better that the proposals seen so far,
   come far too late. The country is exhausted, and is stepping on the
   path of irreversible demographic, economic, and social implosion.
   Reforms had to be done in the 1990s, in a much more favourable global
   environment, and in compliance with the promises made by the Italian
   state at the time of its accession to the Euro, promises which
   clearly have not been maintained.
 
   At this juncture, reforms may instead be as dangerous as immobilism,
   since they can push the country off the cliff of further
   de-stabilisation, as it occurred in numerous historical cases of
   belated reforms triggering the collapse of the system they intended
   to save (France in 1789, the Soviet Union in the late 1980s).
 
    [...]
 
   It must be clear that Italy will not grow itself of out its debt. It
   must be clear that no amount of very belated reforms can save Italy
   at this juncture. The loss of industrial capacity is irreversible.
   The national debt will continue to growth and indeed some sort of
   default will become inevitable.
 
    [...]
 
Bye,
 
   *GB*

 Allora tiriamole fuori. 
 
 
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/
 
 
cvd.

 con chi nasconde queste notizie.
 
Non le nasconde nessuno.
E' che interessano a pochissimi.
 

Joe Zarlingo ha pensato forte :
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 senza però sostituirlo
 
mo' i giudici oltre che giudici, devono fare anche quello che non fanno i politici? :D

stranamente anche la stampa estera si "scorda" di fissare il punto che ha dato inizio al 25ennio perduto, ovvero Maastricht.

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Guarda che son tutte cose che si sapevano, quindi non le ha nascoste
nessuno.
Piuttosto una cosa interessante (c'entra poco ma mi attacco qua) un po'
sottaciuta direi è che nei giorni scorsi, mentre le banche italiane
perdevano il 30% in borsa (e il mps, in particolare, il 43%), la deutsche
bank perdeva il 27%.
 
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