Newsgroup: it.media.tv
Titolo: altra leccatina

(lecca sta per "botta" dalle mie parti :)
http://213.251.145.96/cable/2008/11/08ROME1386.html
(qui si parla di una sparata di Berlusconi sul riconoscimento del Kosovo 
e sullo scudo antimissile
"
Massari, in obvious discomfort, said he ‘fully understood’ the U.S. 
perspective on Berlusconi,s recent stream of commentary, said he would 
take this message back to FM Frattini in detail. He also asked for our 
thoughts on how to avoid any further ‘misunderstandings’ of this nature. 
He said he would recommend that the FM make a statement clarifying 
Italy’s support for Kosovo and NATO expansion. He also said he would 
advise the FM to talk to Berlusconi about the degree to which his 
comments on the US/Russia relationship, Georgia, MD and other issues had 
irritated Washington. *A/DCM ended the conversation by suggesting that 
PM refrain from making any further offers to guide the new U.S. 
administration in its relationship with Russia.*
¶9. (C) Comment. All of our interlocutors were at visible pains to 
underscore that they understood the PM’s comments in Izmir had crossed 
the line. All, however, particularly party officials, reiterated that 
Berlusconi does not listen to the advice of his own experts in crafting 
his approach with other states. On Russia, Berlusconi takes this to an 
extreme, not only conducting his own brand of foreign policy, but on a 
tactical basis, as a way of gaining favor with his Russian interlocutors 
- with whom many (including his own party officials) suspect he has a 
personally and financially enriching relationship. All of our contacts 
stated that it might be difficult to reign him in and, somewhat 
fatalistically, encouraged us to ignore his comments. One senior MFA 
official went so far as to suggest Ambassador take up the issue directly 
with Berlusconi and asked us to let her know what Berlusconi offered as 
his justification for his remarks, since, she said, she had no insight 
whatsoever as to what had animated his remarks on Kosovo and MD.
"
(notare quanto sia gradita agli USA la figura di intermediario che 
Berlusconi vorrebbe far credere di rivestire)
m

 Berlusconi vorrebbe far credere di rivestire)
Lo ha anche ribadito non molto tempo fa: il conflitto in Georgia lo ha 
fermato LUI (invece ha rischiato l'incidente diplomatico) e l'accordo 
USA-Russia sugli armamenti è merito SUO.
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He has even called for Russia to be a full member of the EU - a comment 
he made at a time when the EU was considering whether to continue 
business as usual with Russia in the aftermath of the Georgia-Russia 
conflict.
¶3. (C) Most disturbingly, Berlusconi has attempted to portray himself 
to Russia and the EU as the principal interlocutor between the 
transatlantic community, and in particular the U.S., and Russia. He has 
repeatedly called on the U.S. to take a softer line with Russia on 
virtually all democratic and security issues and has even called on his 
government and Russia to look beyond the current administration to the 
incoming U.S. President in order to achieve these goals.
¶4. (C) Following this latest set of remarks, we reached out to 
virtually every senior interlocutor on Russia within the GOI and in 
Berlusconi,s own center-right coalition. The Ambassador called DPM 
Letta. A/DCM called FM Frattini’s chief of staff (...). We expressed our 
concern that Berlusconi’s attempts at ‘creating dialogue’ with Russia 
were, in fact, creating greater tension and undermining common efforts 
to bring stability to the Balkans, and portraying the successful and 
peaceful expansion of the Euro-Atlantic space as a threat to Russia.
Carlo


Interessante anche come cercano i suoi di giustificarsi..
"All of our contacts stated that it might be difficult to reign him in 
and, somewhat fatalistically, encouraged us to ignore his comments"
Cioè "non ascoltatelo" ... non sa quello che dice, fate finta di niente, 
come con i matti.
m


aggiungo solo questo. Ricordo qualcuno che diceva che il primo ministro 
de facto è Letta
http://213.251.145.96/cable/2010/01/10ROME1.html
"A striking aspect of the session was Letta’s clear position as 
co-regent, with Berlusconi deferring regularly to his colleague and with 
Letta airing opposing points of view to his boss during the luncheon"
m

Probabilmente perché proprio non aveva niente di meglio da fare, mda1ai,
il Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:48:28 +0100, ha scritto in 
it.media.tv
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proposito di "Re: altra leccatina":
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Statisticamente tra una cinquantina di anni dovrei essere morto, il che
un po' mi scoccia, perché non leggerò cosa si dirà allora della politica
1990-2010...
-- 
Roberto Rosoni

 
http://213.251.145.96/cable/2008/11/08ROME1386.html
Metterei in evidenza anche questo:
/as a way of gaining favor with his Russian interlocutors - with whom 
many (including *his own party officials*) suspect he has a personally 
and financially enriching relationship/
Chi mai saranno questi party officials?
Cosa faranno dopo la caduta del governo? (Il 14 o al primo successivo 
incidente di percorso, per un governo abituato a porre la fiducia due 
volte alla settimana non c'e' molto da aspettare.)
-- 
TRu-TS
Buon vento e cieli sereni