Newsgroup: it.hobby.acquari
Titolo: Reef- Chem Marine

Vorrei sapere se qualcuno nel NG ha mai provato il prodotto Stop Parasites
della Chem Marine in acquario reef.
sembra sia efficace per il Crypto e non essendo a base di rame non danneggi
gli invertebrati.
La stessa casa produce un prodotto contro le aiptasie - Stop Aiptasie.
Un saluto.
Alessandro Penco
bun...@tin.it

 della Chem Marine in acquario reef.
No, ma c'è una prova dei nuovi prodotti contro il Crypto su "Freshwater
and Marine Aquarium" di dicembre che però non mi è ancora arrivato. Tra
questi prodotti c'è quello della Chem Marine e quello della Kent. Uno
dei due sconsiglia l'uso in presenza di echinodermi (ricci, oloturie,
stelle).
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Alessandro Rovero, Torino, Italy
e-mail: vedi la mia home page / pse refer to my home page
Personal home page:  
http://space.tin.it/scienza/alrovero
Member of GAEM  (Gruppo Acquariofilo Erpetofilo Milanese)
GAEM home page:  
http://www.gaem.com

stelle).
ricevo dalla Chem Marine:
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Fish Disease/ Diagnoses
                     & Proper Treatment
                           By Chem-Marin
Whether you are a beginner or a seasoned marine reef hobbiest you will most
likely encounter fish disease in your reef system. The trick is to find the
problem as soon as possible and to know what the disease is and properly
treat it with the right medication. Some times this is a difficult task,
most hobbiest see a problem and treat with the wrong medication, the result
is usually fish loss and well earned money down the drain not to mention the
suffering of the fish.
I would like to focus on the most common causes of fish loss in this segment
which are Parasites and Bacteria ,usually parasites come first and bacteria
second ,the reason for this is parasites feed on the fish and end up leaving
Lichens [open wounds] which in time get infected and stress the fish , This
stress causes more Parasites and it becomes a never ending cycle. That is
why it is important to treat the Bacteria infection as well as the
Parasites.
You may ask, why is it when the fish are at the store or in my hospital tank
there are no Parasites but when I introduce them in my system the parasites
magically appear?  Well this could be as simple as the stress from
transporting the specimen from the store to your home or from the sick tank
to your display tank, if this is the case it will be easy to treat with a
reef safe medication or in some instances they will cure themselves
,remember as long as the fish are in copper Parasites will not be visible
and a untrained eye may purchase the specimen not knowing the problem that
may lay ahead. That is why it is very important before you purchase or treat
one of your pre-existing fish to look for abrasions on the body and also
discoloration of the fish or cloudy hazy eyes. If these signs are present it
most likely has or eventually will soon encounter a Bacteria infection that
will cause a major outbreak of Ich which will not only jeopardize the fish
infected but all the fish in your show tank.
Remember Parasite medication will not treat a Bacteria infection nor will
Bacteria medication
(  Antibiotic ) rid your fish of Parasites.
We at Chem-Marin have been testing Erythromycin in reef systems for the last
2 years all over the US with a 99% success rate with out harming the most
delicate species , this includes corals inverts and fish , not to mention
your bacteria bed as long as your system is a year or more old, If your
system is new you can still treat , but careful Monitoring of Ammonia is
critical as your Bacteria bed is not at a mature state this means your gram
negative { your bio load Bacteria }even though it has cycled has quality but
does not have quantity  quantity is important as erythromycin also will
knock out some of your beneficial bacteria { Gram negative} which helps to
Sustain life to your reef system..
Erythromycin takes care of Gram Positive and Gram Negative Bacteria safely
and effectively.
Below is a method that we found most effective and safe that we would like
to share with you to help you have the success you and your fish deserve.
Al Ciannelli
Put in once a day 300 MG of Erythromycin for every 30 gallons of water
for 4 days in a row and then every other day ,
for a total of 9 Treatments ,If symptoms are still visible skip 2 days
and re administer for 9 more treatments, watch for skimmer overflow
at all times of treatments.
Also check water perimeters while administering.
       CAUTION ::::::::::::::::::::::: BE ALERT SKIMMER MAY OVERFLOW ,DO NOT
TURN OFF JUST TURN IT DOWN
                                           Erythromycin Treatment       Al
Ciannelli
                                                          Chem-Marin
                                         261&1/2 Parsonage ST. Pittston PA.
18640
                                         Phone & Fax ---------- 
717-654-0298
       Chem-Marin
        Stop Aiptasia
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION AND DOSING
Inject the aiptasias with a #18 syringe or our handy new Applicator (sold
Sep) in the center of  the disk and at the base to insure Stop Aiptasia
immediately takes effect. They will turn dark in color and in 12 to 24 hours
fall off rocks and than may be siphoned out. Allot of hobbyists reported
that their fish ate the aiptasia after several days which saved them the
trouble of siphoning them out.
Stop Aiptasia is totally reef safe and will not harm any corals, fish or
inverts and may be used in conjunction with any medication that may be
present in your system.
Chem-Marin is in no way responsible for the misuse of this product or injury
of user. Because of strick laws Chem-Marin cannot include syringes with this
product. Refrigerate and keep away from children.
                     Applicators
Chem-Marin now introduces an applicator designed especially for Stop
Aiptasia. Its unique design is made with a bright red universal tip that
makes easy access for deep and hard to reach areas to pin point your target
to be injected.
INSTRUCTIONS: shake contents well draw up contents till applicator is
full,usually 1\2 to 1 CC.will eradicate a small to medium size aiptasia [
use your own discretion ] inject Aiptasia in center disk and around base if
possible for assurance of eradication. For additional information refer to
Stop Aiptasia label.
This applicator may also be used for adding aquarium additives such as
strontium iodine calcium ect., with accurate CC measurements.
Maintenance : Rinse applicator thoroughly with tap water after each use to
prolong life.
TOPIC                         :Stop Parasites
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION:
Stop Parasites is the product you have been waiting years for. This product
is one of the real innovations in the hobby in many years. It is likely to
become the standard of parasite treatment for fish and reef tanks. It is
safe and works well.
It rids your tank of all parasites and is totally safe for all fish,
invertebrates and corals.
We have hundreds of hobbyists who have already used it and are thrilled with
the results. They like it so much they tell pet stores about it. We've had
pet stores calling saying their customers have tried it and recommended they
try it.
It is our belief that Stop Parasites will redefine the whole approach to
parasite treatment in fresh and salt water.
Experiments done by ourselves and others in the field over the last year
have proven to us that this is the safest product around for ridding your
tank of parasites.
Stop Parasites is available in 8, 16 and 1 gallon sizes. Beginning Jan. 15
/97 we will be offering a 32 oz. size.
Stop Parasites is made up of 11 different natural ingredient, 7 major ones
and 4 minor ones. It also contains several masking agents.
While using Stop Parasites all chemical filtration need to be removed from
the tank. This includes carbon, resins, sorbing materials, etc.
UV and ozonizers should be turned off as well. Skimmers can be left running.
This makes the product highly suitable for both treatment and prophylactic
approaches in any kind of aquarium.
It will not hurt bacteria and will not disturb biological filtration. We
have tested that dozens of times at much higher dosages than you will ever
use. The dose at which one starts to see negative effect is around 75 drops
per gallon.
You must follow the suggested treatments. If you stop too soon you may not
have gotten rid of all the parasites and your fish may break out with
infestations again days after you stop. The dosage is as follows: Put 10
drops in per gallon in the am and 10 drops in the pm. Make sure to monitor
your Ph after each dose. In most cases Ph drops will not occur or a slight
drop will occur, but under certain cases due to water chemistry and
filtration a drastic Ph drop is possible. SO BE SAFE AND MONITOR YOUR Ph.
The great thing about Stop Parasite is that there is no need to test and it
does not harm the fishes liver as does copper. It can be used in both fresh
and saltwater tanks and will not harm plants. The breakdown products of Stop
Parasite are harmless and will slowly be removed by your skimmer. There is
no need to take any special steps after using this product even for extended
periods of time. In one of the many test tanks we administered the product
for 6 continuous months, every day, 5 drops per gallon, and never had any
losses of corals and fishes.
While using Stop Parasite you should remove all mechanical filters from your
system that are meant to remove particles smaller than 25 microns. Filters
for gross particulate matter can be left running. Clean them from time to
time. (once a week). Stop Parasites is not an insecticide, or similar
product, and is not subject to EPA or FDA rulings and guidelines. This
product is to be used for ornamental fish only.
Although it is not toxic to humans or domestic animals we suggest you keep
it out of reach of children as with all aquarium products.
We recommend you refrigerate Stop Parasite, especially if you are not going
to use it for long periods of time.
THE MANY USES OF STOP PARASITES:
1. Acclimating fish:
As soon as you come home with fish and you start the acclimating process add
5 drops to the water in the container in which you acclimate..
When you plan on buying fish it is a good idea to take along a bottle of
Stop Parasites with you and have the clerk put in 5 drops before he closes
the bag. After you put the fish in your tank, as a precautionary method
only, you may want to put 5 drops in the am and 5 drops in the pm for 4 to 5
days to try and avoid parasites caused by stress not only for the new fish
but the fish you already have.
VERY IMPORTANT: When dosing you must check your alkalinity and Ph as Stop
Parasites is acidic. You do not want the Ph to suddenly drop. Buffer the
water if necessary. Check the Ph regularly. Check it every time you add Stop
Parasites both before and after the treatments. This is very important. A Ph
drop can cause severe stress or if it drops low enough death. If it is going
to drop it will do so immediately after dosing not several hours later. In
reef tanks a Ph drop is very unlikely because of the natural buffering
capacity.
                 Copper Free   F.W.P       BY Al Ciannelli
                                      For Freshwater Parasites\ ( Ick}
                               Safe for Inverts & live Plants. 100% organic.
                            For Fish Keepers Who Demand The Very Best.
This product is TOTALLY Organic and Bio Degradable .It is safe for the most
delicate systems  containing live plants & freshwater inverts.
How F.W.P works : This product is made up of many different agents ,one
agent speeds up the process of the fishes natural slime coat. This causes
the parasites to detach themselves along with their slime coat.
Another agent then attracts the Parasites as an alternative food source
which causes them to get caught in your filter media and eventually starve .
This agent though attractive has no nutrition for the Parasites to survive.
Other agents speed up the appetite of your fish and also build up their
immune system and unlike copper will not harm the internal organs of your
fish.
Directions:
Remove all chemical filtration such as Charcoal, Chemisorb ,Polly filters,
etc.
Shake well Put in 4 Teaspoons per 10 gal 1 time per day for 5 days or until
parasites are gone.
A pH drop can occur in some systems .
It is a good idea to check pH after each treatment.
No water change is needed . This product is safe for all freshwater inverts
and plant
life.
NOTE: 8oz bottle will treat up to 20 gal aquarium for a 5 day treatment.
One gallon size also available for large systems.
NOTE: This product will be released Oct 98
F.W.P will only be packed in a 8oz & 1 Gal size at this time 8oz  will treat
up to 20 gal for 1 complete treatment
Chem-Marin 261&1/2 Parsonage st. Pittston PA.18640
Ph & Fax 
570-654-0298
Al Ciannelli
Check out our web at ----------- 
http://www.ewtech.com/chem-marin/
See product revues in FAMA DEC,98 ON STOP AIPTASIA & JAN,99 STOP PARASITES.
BY DR.SANDY COHEN
unquote.
mi sembra interessante.
Alessandro Penco