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Titolo: Pregare perché finisca presto e che si sappia cogliere l'opportunità

Questa sera possiamo essere cautamente ottimisti sui tempi della guerra. I
bombardamenti delle infrastrutture militari e gli attacchi della
cavalleria aerea alle sue forze di terra stanno incrinando la resistenza
dei nemici attorno a Bagdad. Preghiamo che la vittoria arrivi presto e
costi il minor sangue possibile. E preghiamo che questa volta,
contrariamente a quanto č avvenuto nel secolo XIX, il controllo
occidentale sul Medio Oriente non sia soltanto sfruttamento politico ed
economico, ma apra durevolmente l'intera regione al benefico influsso del
cristianesimo e del diritto romano.
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 cristianesimo e del diritto romano.
Vignetta di Ellekappa:
- Non mi sembra che i bombardamenti degli americani siano cosě precisi 
- Ti vorrei vedere a te, sganciare tutte quelle tonnellate di democrazia
da mille metri d'altezza....
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bah, mi sembrava una guerra economica, ma tu mi confondi, č una guerra di
religione e di diritto!
ALLAH AKBAR!
Saluti increduli e stupiti
Forex

 Forex
Ciao, Gigi.
Trattasi di Adon Nequod, alias Signor Puntino tradotto in ebraico da Liang
Ronfa. Alias l'amico Serghey.
Si vede che Adon Nequod gli piace di  piů di "."
E il suo intervento č perfettamente in linea con tutti gli altri suoi
interventi....
Una coerenza granitica e invidiabile.
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Ciao
Divě

 dei nemici attorno a Bagdad.
U.S. soldiers fire on van carrying women and children
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/31/sprj.irq.van.shooting/index.html

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Ciao Divě, in effetti ero rimasto abbastanza sconcertato.
Questi giorni non ho molto tempo e mi limito a leggere gli interventi. Ho
letto il tuo sul Quolet e mi sarebbe piaciuto venire, ma sono impegnatissimo
su un nuovo progetto.
Poi ultimamente sono diventato abbastanza intollerante su certe questioni e
mi sto impegnando personalmente sul fronte politico.
Probabilmente la prossima settimana sarň a Milano, ritornando da Monaco,
spero di incontrarci anche con altri, perchč poi sarň impegnato per un
trasferimento via mare da Trieste in Sardegna.
FOR[7:31] C'č un tempo per lavorare, un tempo per parlare, un tempo per
navigare. :-)
Saluti citati
Forex

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si', e' quello che sostiene 
che Hitler lo ha voluto prepotentemente dio...
cosi' poi Hitler avrebbe realizzato la Shoah...
cosi' per la Shoaha sarebbe nato Israele...
cosi' Israeele sarebbe diventato sempre + forte...!!
ed avrebbe quindi fatto a pezzettini l'Islam...
cosi' il cristianesimo finalmente avrebbe TRIONFATO!!!
pit bum sbum
PS la conoscete la filastrocca di Petruzzo??
forse simonetta...
questo fa la storia nello stesso identico modo..

... e del diritto romano.
diritto romano? quello a cui si rifaceva Pilato?

 e del diritto romano.
diritto internazionale, spero
diritto texano, temo
Meleyak
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 E' già durata troppo
Ma sembra che Berlinguer e Cofferati non siano del mio stesso parere.
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 spero di incontrarci anche con altri
io spero di esserci
:-)

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:b6c4hc$3m24a$1...@ID-47320.news.dfncis.de...
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Porto il cabernet? O lo beviamo da me?
:-))))

Segnalo, perchè se ne è parlato poco, il recente discorso del papa ai
vescovi dell'Indonesia, scritto in inglese. 
"Non si deve consentire alla guerra di dividere le religioni del mondo"
"Non si permetta che una tragedia umana diventi una catastrofe
religiosa"
http://www.vatican.va/news_services/bulletin/news/13135.php?index=13135&
po_date=29.03.2003&lang=it
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Pubblichiamo di seguito il discorso che il Santo Padre ha rivolto agli
Ecc.mi Presuli della Conferenza Episcopale dell'Indonesia, incontrati
questa mattina e ricevuti in questi giorni, in separate udienze, in
occasione della Visita "ad Limina Apostolorum":
  DISCORSO DEL SANTO PADRE
Dear Brother Bishops,
1. "Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus
Christ" (1 Cor 1:3)! With these words of Saint Paul and with affection
in the Lord, I welcome you the Bishops of Indonesia on the occasion of
your visit ad Limina Apostolorum. Through you I also embrace in spirit
the clergy, religious and laity of your particular Churches. Your
travelling such a great distance to kneel at the tombs of the Apostles,
to join in prayer and to meet with the Successor of Peter bears witness
to the universal character of the Church. As Successors of the Apostles,
whose witness to Christ Crucified and Risen is the sure foundation of
the Church's proclamation of the Gospel in every time and place, you
have come to confirm your communion in faith and charity. I give thanks
that during these trying times you were able to make this pilgrimage to
share the faith, experiences and insights of your local communities, as
well as the challenges you face. May the fruits of our meetings enrich
the Church in Indonesia and enhance your own pastoral ministry.
2. Your leadership helps to ensure that the Church is at the forefront
of fostering peace and harmony in a country composed of so many various
groups. Indeed, your Conference seeks to reflect the motto Bihneka
Tungal Ika, "unity in diversity", found on your national coat-of-arms.
Your differing ethnic and cultural backgrounds, brought together in an
atmosphere of faith, dialogue and mutual trust, can offer a model of
hope for all of Indonesia. At the opening of a new era, Indonesia faces
the challenge of building a society based on the democratic principles
of the freedom and equality of its citizens, regardless of language,
race, ethnic background, cultural heritage or religion. I have no doubt
that the Church will remain actively involved in this endeavour by
encouraging all peoples to continue to join with one another in
exercising their civic responsibilities through dialogue and openness,
avoiding every type of prejudice or bigotry. The development of a
society that embodies these democratic ideals will help to curb the
disturbing violence which has sadly plagued your country over the last
few years.
Religious freedom, which has been one of the traditional characteristics
of Indonesian Society, is guaranteed by the Nation's Constitution. The
Church must at all times remain vigilant to ensure that this principle
is respected on both the federal and local levels. It is my hope that
such efforts will help to create a climate where respect for the rule of
law becomes the new mind-set for a democratic society which is tolerant
and non-violent. This important first step begins with suitable human
formation. As I said in my Encyclical Letter Centesimus Annus, assisting
"the individual through education and formation in true ideals" is a
necessary element for the creation of a civic order marked by genuine
concern for the common good (cf. 46).
Particular attention in this regard must be given to the poor. The
Church is concerned that "the advancement of the poor constitutes a
great opportunity for the moral and cultural growth of all humanity"
(ibid., 28). Since Christ's message is one of hope, his followers must
always ensure that the less fortunate among us, regardless of religion
or ethnic background, are treated with the dignity and respect demanded
by the Gospel. Promoting the fundamental rights of the weak is a proven
path towards a stable and productive society. The Church is called to
"take her stand beside the poor, to discern the justice of their
requests and to help satisfy them" (cf. Sollicitudo Rei Socialis, 39).
3. One of the most effective ways for the Christian community to help
the poor is through education. In this area, as well as in its
impressive system of charitable agencies, the Church in Indonesia is to
be commended. Although Catholics account for only a very small part of
the total population, they have developed a large and respected school
system. The Church's work in the field of education is recognized as one
of your greatest contributions to Indonesian society, and it certainly
remains an effective means for the transmission of Gospel values.
Catholic education, as an important part of the Church's catechetical
and evangelizing mission, must be based on a philosophy in which faith
and culture are brought together in harmonic unity (cf. Congregation for
Catholic Education, The Religious Dimension of Education in a Catholic
School, 34). Your efforts to preserve Catholic schools, especially in
impoverished non-Catholic areas and in the wake of financial hardship,
demonstrate your firm commitment to multicultural solidarity and to the
requirement of evangelical love for all. While it is encouraging to note
the high literacy rate within the population, one cannot fail to be
alarmed by the number of young people who do not go on to secondary
school. Your youth should be encouraged not to forego their education
for the lure of shallow and fleeting materialism. In this regard, I
would also like to highlight the essential work of catechists in
countries like Indonesia where the faithful are such a small minority.
The lack of access to Catholic education in some impoverished areas,
coupled with an environment at times in conflict with or even hostile to
Christianity, brings out the need to provide serious programmes of
catechetical formation for young and old alike. The ecclesial community
has a responsibility to ensure that its members are welcomed into an
"environment where they can live as fully as possible what they have
learned" (Catechesi Tradendae, 24). Catechesis is the task of the entire
faith community and an extension of the ministry of the word entrusted
to the Bishop and his clergy. It is an ecclesiastical responsibility
which requires adequate doctrinal and pedagogical formation. I encourage
you to give all possible support to those who have willingly undertaken
the difficult and demanding task of providing this essential service,
for which the entire Church is grateful.
4. For some time your Bishops' Conference has recognized that
evangelization goes hand in hand with the profound, gradual and exacting
work of inculturation. The truth of the Gospel should always be
proclaimed in a way that is persuasive and relevant. This is especially
important in a complex society such as your own where, in some areas and
among certain groups, Catholicism is at times viewed with suspicion.
Yours is the delicate task of seeing that the Gospel maintains its
fundamental meaning, valid for all people and cultures, while also
communicating it in a way that is attentive to traditional values and
the family. As I said during my Pastoral Visit to Indonesia in 1989,
"the example of Christ and the power of his Paschal Mystery penetrate,
purify and elevate all culture, every culture" (Homily at Yogyakarta, 10
October 1989).
Successful inculturation depends on couples and families who embody the
Christian vision of their vocation and responsibility. I encourage you,
therefore, to continue to promote the traditional values of the family
so closely tied with Asian culture (cf. Ecclesia in Asia, 6), infusing
them with the new life that comes from the Gospel. The serious concerns
about growing threats to family life which you have voiced on many
occasions must not be overlooked. A true "conspiracy against life" (cf.
Evangelium Vitae, 17) and the family is appearing in many forms:
abortion, sexual permissiveness, pornography, drug abuse and pressures
to adopt morally unacceptable methods of population control.
Notwithstanding the difficulties involved in countering these tendencies
in a non-Christian society, you as Bishops are "the first ones called to
be untiring teachers of the Gospel of life" (ibid., 82). At all times,
the Church's prophetic voice must loudly proclaim the need to respect
and promote the divine law written on every heart (cf. Rom 2:15). By
listening, dialogue and discernment, Bishops must assist their flocks in
living the Gospel in a way that is fully compatible with the deposit of
faith and the bonds of ecclesial communion (cf. Redemptoris Missio, 54).
5. As some of you have mentioned, the Church in Indonesia is one that
lives and suffers with the people, confronting the challenges arising
from daily contact with a non-Christian society. It is a community that
seeks a path of integral human development in the context of religious
harmony and tolerance, offering and receiving much within a complex
cultural milieu. There already exists a commendable level of
interreligious dialogue in your country on an institutional level. This
mutual exchange of religious experiences has found practical expression
in the interreligious charity projects and collaboration which have been
undertaken, particularly following natural disasters. Even in
predominantly Muslim areas, the Church is actively present in
orphanages, clinics and institutions dedicated to helping the
downtrodden. This is a wonderful expression of the boundless nature of
Christ's love; a love not for a few but for all.
Here, I wish to assure you of my deep concern for the beloved Indonesian
people at this moment of heightened tension in the entire world
community. War must never be allowed to divide world religions. I
encourage you to take this unsettling moment as an occasion to work
together, as brothers committed to peace, with your own people, with
those of other religious beliefs and with all men and women of good will
in order to ensure understanding, cooperation and solidarity. Let us not
permit a human tragedy also to become a religious catastrophe (cf.
Address to the Interreligious Delegation from Indonesia, 20 February
2003).
At the same time, I am well aware that certain portions of the Christian
community in your nation have suffered from discrimination and
prejudice, while others have been victimized by acts of destruction and
vandalization. In some areas Christian communities have been denied the
permission to build places of worship and prayer. Indonesia, together
with the international community, was recently stunned at the terrible
loss of life due to the terrorist bombing in Bali. In all of this,
however, one must be careful not to yield to the temptation to define
groups of people by the actions of an extremist minority. Authentic
religion does not advocate terrorism or violence, but seeks to promote
in every way the unity and peace of the whole human family.
6. Since Christians constitute a very small minority in your country,
they are especially called to be "leaven in the dough" (cf. Mt 13:33).
Despite hardship and sacrifice, your priests and religious continue to
bear daily witness to the Good News of Jesus Christ, bringing many to
the Gospel. Because "the Church in Asia finds herself among people who
display an intense yearning for God" (Ecclesia in Asia, 9), you are
challenged to find concrete ways of meeting that need. Indeed, your
efforts to promote vocations to the priesthood and the religious life
reflect your awareness of this duty. I commend you for your insistence
on maintaining high standards of education and formation in seminaries
and religious houses. Concern and attention shown in selecting and
training candidates for the priesthood and religious life always redound
to the benefit of the local Church.
Since formation and spiritual development are life-long processes,
Bishops have an essential responsibility to assist their priests by
making available to them programmes of continuing formation, retreats
and time for prayer and fellowship. An important element in this
formation, both initial and continuing, is an adequate training in the
theology and spirituality of the liturgy. "The liturgy is the source and
summit of all Christian life and mission. It is also a decisive means of
evangelization, especially in Asia where the followers of different
religions are so drawn to worship, religious festivals and popular
devotions" (cf. Ecclesia in Asia, 22). Your priests need to be given
opportunities to be both nourished by that liturgy and to become experts
in bringing its richness to others, so that its depth, beauty and
mystery will always shine forth. The spiritual and moral support which
you give to the men and women Religious in your Dioceses is also a
significant part of your episcopal ministry. Members of Religious
Institutes have played an indispensable role in bringing the Good News
to the men and women of Indonesia and in a special way to the poor and
the outcast. In this important work, they must always be helped to
strengthen their consecration to the Lord through their daily living of
the evangelical counsels. "All who have embraced the consecrated life
are called to become leaders in the search for God, a search which has
always stirred the human heart and which is particularly visible in
Asia's many forms of spirituality and asceticism" (Ecclesia in Asia,
44). For this reason, Religious can have an essential role in the
Church's overall commitment to evangelization.
7. Dear Bishops, it is in a spirit of faith and communion that I have
shared with you these reflections on certain aspects of the care of
God's beloved people in Indonesia. Through your presence, I feel very
close to the Indonesian faithful, and in this moment of uncertainty it
is my fervent prayer that they will be strengthened in Christ. I commend
all of you to the intercession of Mary, Queen of the Rosary, who
embraces all who call on her in distress and never fails to ask for
their deliverance from evil. In the love of Jesus Christ, I impart to
you and the faithful of your Dioceses my Apostolic Blessing.
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