Newsgroup: it.cultura.religioni.cristiani
Titolo: OT, molto OT

Avete in mente le raccolte di frasi celebri dei professori, su tanti
diarii scolastici?
Anche la BBC lo fa, sul suo sito.
Per evitare che suoni come una smaccata propaganda per un noto
politico nazionale, non lo traduco.
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In quotes: Berlusconi in his own words
 
Berlusconi's loose tongue has often got him into trouble 
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi is well known for his
tendency to make what one former Italian prime minister Massimo
D'Alema has described as "planetary gaffes". 
He is also prone to make out-of-place, and often lewd, jokes - which
is said to be why his minders prevent journalists travelling with him.
Here is a selection of Berlusconi clangers: 
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On judges pursuing him on charges relating to his business dealings: 
"Those judges are doubly mad! In the first place, because they are
politically mad, and in the second place because they are mad anyway.
"If they do that job it is because they are anthropologically
different from the rest of the human race." 
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In the wake of 11 September: 
"We must be aware of the superiority of our civilisation, a system
that has guaranteed well-being, respect for human rights and - in
contrast with Islamic countries - respect for religious and political
rights, a system that has as its value understanding of diversity and
tolerance... 
"The West will continue to conquer peoples, even if it means a
confrontation with another civilisation, Islam, firmly entrenched
where it was 1,400 years ago." 
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His response to worldwide condemnation of the above speech: 
"They have tried to hang me on an isolated word, taken out of context
from my whole speech." 
"I did not say anything against the Islamic civilisation... It's the
work of some people in the Italian leftist press who wanted to tarnish
my image and destroy my long-standing relations with Arabs and
Muslims" 
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On Danish PM Anders Fogh-Rasmussen: 
"I think I should introduce him to my wife, because he is
better-looking than (Massimo) Cacciari." [Mr Cacciari is a former
mayor of Venice rumoured to be romantically attached to Mrs
Berlusconi.] 
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On himself: 
"The best political leader in Europe and in the world." 
"There is no-one on the world stage who can compete with me." 
"Out of love for Italy, I felt I had to save it from the left." 
"The right man in the right job." 
"I don't need to go into office for the power. I have houses all over
the world, stupendous boats... beautiful airplanes, a beautiful wife,
a beautiful family... I am making a sacrifice." 
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A joke about Aids told by Mr Berlusconi: 
An Aids patient asks his doctor whether the sand treatment prescribed
him will do any good. "No," the doctor replies, "but you will get
accustomed to living under the earth." 
His response to critics who said the joke was offensive: 
"They have lost their minds; they really have come to the end of the
line, indeed they have gone beyond it. I would advise them, too, to
undergo sand treatment..." 
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On his trial, now suspended, in which he denies charges of bribing
judges to prevent the sale of a state-owned food company to rival
Carlo de Benedetti: 
"I believed and still believe that citizen Berlusconi should be
praised for having prevented the state's wealth from being looted... I
was expecting a Gold Medal for Civil Worthiness for ensuring the state
earned 2,000bn [lire]" 
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On his conflict of interest as prime minister and one of Italy's
biggest tycoons, with major media holdings: 
"If I, taking care of everyone's interests, also take care of my own,
you can't talk about a conflict of interest." 
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On a proposal to base an EU food standards agency in Finland, rather
than the Italian city of Parma: 
"Parma is synonymous with good cuisine. The Finns don't even know what
prosciutto is. I cannot accept this." 
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On history: 
"The founders of Rome were Romulus and Remulus ..." 
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On Italian justice: 
"Eighty-five per cent of the Italian press is left-wing and among the
judges it is even worse... There is a cancer in Italy that we have to
treat: the politicisation of the magistracy." 
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Scusate.
Remolo Carenalo

 D'Alema has described as "planetary gaffes".
il mio inglese è stentato, ma a occhio non leggo niente di stra-saputo.
vedendo il nome del del former D'Alema, mi affretto, a memoria, a
ristabilire un minimo di pav condicio, con poca speranza di trattenere
l'incontenibile max man.
D'Alema disse, prima che Berlusconi scendesse in campo:
"se vinciamo noi, Berlusconi dovrà riparare all'estero".
ciò  non spiega tutto il fenomeno B., però aiuta.
D'Alema, una volta al governo, si lasciò scappare di fronte
a giornalisti non così fidati, la soddisfazione per le sue
nuove "scarpe su misura, costate un milione mezzo"
quando si dice che la classe operaia va in paradiso!
e ricordo, meno appariscente certo, quando invitò
ad un convegno di socialdemocratici(!) un leader
del centrodestra brasiliano, perchè era stato uno dei
"compagni" con cui avevano passato tante battaglie
insieme (un po' come giuliano Ferrara) e non Lula.
oppure (sono un po' complottista, lo so)
quando descrisse associazioni massoniche di
argentini oriundi italiani, come "belle associazioni
di patrioti, dai nomi puliti, pensate, <Concodanza
e benevolenza> pensate si chiamassero così da noi!"
e per ora, buonanotte
ag

 politico nazionale, non lo traduco.
Qualcuna e' anche giusta, molte sono simpatiche.
Fossero questi i problemi.
Fra l'altro, sono curioso di sapere quanti lettori del sito BBC sobbalzano
di fronte a Romolo e Remolo.
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Io ero OT, ma non tanto di esprimere giudizi politici.
Sono, anzi, molto fiero che Berlusconi abbia il singolare privilegio
di una rubrica fissa sul sito BBC.
Mi onora come cittadino un privilegio che non mi risulta abbiano, per
esempio, i Francesi.
Forza Carena
 
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di fronte a Romolo e Remolo.
Infatti. Gli Inglesi sono dei grandi ignoranti.
Culturalmente disturbati.
Questo è un problema.
Ciao
Pietro Carena
(untarrabbià)

 Culturalmente disturbati.
ed antropologicamente diversi.
y.

ed antropologicamente diversi.
e lavano i piatti senza sciacquarli.
pb LA