Newsgroup: it.fan.scrittori.tolkien
Titolo: STO MALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Richard berg (mitico designer di wargame) sta preparando la seconda
edizione di The WAR OF THE RING (il boardgame che all'inizio anni ottanta
rappresentň per me un'attrattiva piů grande del pallone...ed č tutto
dire...e, per inciso, ho visto essere venduto anche a 200$!). Sta
modificando mappa e regole per aggiornarla. 
Inserico qui alcuni spunti di correzione tratti da qualche parte nella
rete:-)
Richard H. Berg - 01:59pm Feb 12, 2003 PST (#862 of 870)
"The melancholy thing about the world is that it is full of stupid and
common people, and the world is run for the benefit of the stupid and the
common."... V.S. Naipaul
"By linking recruitment to Fellowship characters you seem to encourage
splitting."
Yes . . . and one of the reasons I want it in there. One of the biggest
complaints about the originbal was that The fellowship gathered in testudo
foirmatgion and just slide on down to Mordor . . .
"In you first game I notice that mobilization was completely independant
of it. Why the change ?"
Again, purely a game design decision . . . I like to give players tough
decisions. Playing a card is not a tough decision. You'll see . . .
"I think RHB is very resistant to our suggestions ..."
Not resistant, just selective. I have a huge file folder filed with
emails, from which i culled about 3 pages of ideas that seemed promising.
"I can see Richard holding the playtest kit now...... " My PRECIOUS!!!!!! "
Works for me . . . .
I finally saw THE TWO TOWERS today . . . great stuff, gave me a couple of
ideas.
Yes . . . and one of the reasons I want it in there. One of the biggest
complaints about the originbal was that The fellowship gathered in testudo
foirmatgion and just slide on down to Mordor . . .
Hmm, funny. We (and I have played with several different groups) always
split the fellowship because: 1) 9 characters were simply to easy to find,
and thus handing mobilization to the DPP. 2) If Shadowfax (?) is at
Rivendell, send Gandalf and a hobbit down to Edoras and Minas Tirith to
mobilize. 3) Separate Boromir from the ringbearer. 4) Possibly send
someone to Thranduils palace to collect the item there. 5) "Rush" a lone
kamikaze-Gandalf to Servant hexes to get killed.
John Cooper - 09:33am Feb 12, 2003 PST (#854 of 870)
So many games, so little time...
The game clearly does not bind the Fellowship player to the same Council
objectives as in the book. Hence, if the player is allowed, nay expected,
to determine his own objectives, to hold his own "Council at Rivendell" if
you will, then using the Fellowship characters to muster armies rather
than accompany Frodo to Mount Doom seems perfectly reasonable.
I would want the game to merely "set the stage" as it was at the time of
the Council, or perhaps earlier if we insist on incorporating the Hobbits'
entire journey out of the Shire, and then let events unfold as they may
based on player choices. I wouldn't want the game to follow the book
exactly, or even "gently nudge" play in that direction. However, it ought
to be possible for the game to play out the same as the book, given the
right moves, card draws, and dice rolls.
What's important to me is that the game present the same strategic
dilemmas faced by both sides in the book. For instance, a player who
didn't quite understand Sauron's (military) actions in the book ought to
be able to play the game and arrive at a "Gee, now I understand why Sauron
did what he did!" moment.
The power of wargames is that they can reveal what might have happened
given the same starting conditions and different choices. The game can
show, for instance, what might have happened had Aragorn accepted the
Ring, taken it to Gondor, mustered an army there, marched upon Mordor, and
contested Sauron for control over his armies (via the Ring). The book
never explored this possibility, but the game can! That's all we can
really ask from it, no?
Cheers,
- John
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R Shaw - 09:43am Feb 12, 2003 PST (#855 of 870)
The book never explored this possibility,...
Yes, it did (as did the movie)...basically no one but Sauron can control
the Ring. If such is attempted anyway,then that person merely becomes
another Sauron (different package, same contents). In game terms, a win
for the Bad Guys...  
Celebrimbor
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Era quel gioco della SPI in cui c'erano sia battaglie che gioco di carte?

 Era quel gioco della SPI in cui c'erano sia battaglie che gioco di carte?
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Zi! Mappa della Terra di Mezzo ad esagoni, quadratini a specificare i
personaggi o armate, e carte con caratterisctiche del personaggi, nonchè
dotate di ottime raffigurazioni in biamco e nero!
Celebrimbor...chi vuole giocare con me??
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 Celebrimbor...chi vuole giocare con me??
Pensa che io ce l'avevo... Ma adesso non lo trovo più.

 modificando mappa e regole per aggiornarla.
CAZZO CHE NOTIZIA!
Pensa che ho qui l'originale, con anche "Gondor" e "Sauron" (le battaglie di
Minas Tirith e di Dagorlad") e ho fatto una partita commemorativa quando e'
uscita la "Compagnia" al cinema. Ai tempi (1982) ci giocavo tutti i giorni
con gli amici!

 Celebrimbor...chi vuole giocare con me??
Mi insegni??????????????
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Lady of the Rings
FeSTosa n° 166
"Il mondo è davvero pieno di pericoli e vi sono molti posti oscuri; ma
si trovano ancora delle cose belle, e nonostante che l'amore sia
ovunque mescolato al dolore, esso cresce ancora più forte"