Newsgroup: it.comp.software.newsreader
Titolo: Conviente spendere altri 19 Dollari per Forte Agent 5.0 ?

Ne vale la pena o mi tengo la 4 ?
Dando uno sguardo di corsa non ho notato nessuna differenza sinceramente
(a parte un pochino l'aspetto grafico su qualche finestra) e che vuole un
percorso dove scaricare i file...
Mah !!
Chameleon2
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Ne vale la pena o mi tengo la 4 ?
Dovresti valutare le presenti e future novità che verranno introdotte
nelle versioni 5.x; dovresti trovarle qui:
http://forteinc.com/news/bulletin.php?id=agent50
http://forteinc.com/news/bulletin.php?id=agent50beta
http://forteinc.com/news/bulletin.php?id=agent50update
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Ciao, Alessio - 
http://www.sleepers.it
Materiale in italiano per Agent: 
http://agentit.altervista.org/
FAQ di ICS.newsreader: 
http://faq.news.nic.it/wiki/IcsnFaq


http://forteinc.com/news/bulletin.php?id=agent50update
Dimenticavo le Release Notes della 5.0.
http://www.forteinc.com/release/notes.php?id=50
Nested Folders
*Organize your Folders Pane into the hierarchies that fit your
requirements.
*Continue to use your current desks.  Nested folders mesh seamlessly
with Agent's desks.
*Drag and drop folders where you want them.
*Find your target folder quickly using auto-complete.
*Move/copy/import/route messages to any folder in the hierarchy
*"Roll up" unread counts to the top-level folder when this folder is
collapsed. 
Tabbed Windows
*Each open window in Agent displays a tab so you can easily navigate
among various tasks in Agent.  Use tabs to display open browser windows,
the Task Manager, Composition Window, Usenet Filters window and Email
Filters window.  Tabs are labeled for easy navigation.
*Use your mouse or your keyboard to move among windows.
*Tabs makes it much easier to use Agent's multiple browser window
feature.  Each window can focus on a different newsgroup or folder, with
it's own zoom state and view filters.  You'll never lose your place as
you work in several groups at the same time.
*Don't want to use tabs?  Of course they're optional.  Turn them on or
off using the Show Window Tabs checkbox on the Options dialog, Main
Window panel.
Restore the State of Open Windows When Restarting Agent
To take full advantage of tabbed windows, Agent now gives you the option
of restoring all windows which were open when you last closed Agent.
Here is how Agent restores various window types:
*All browser windows re-open in the same tab position and pane layout
(organization of panes and margin positions), positioned on the last
selected message.
*The Task Log window always opens empty. In other words, Agent does not
store log entries when it closes.
*The Active Task pane (Task Manager window) always opens empty.
*The Email Filter and Usenet Filter windows remember the last selected
item.
*The Composition window is restored only if you saved (as a draft) the
message you were composing previously.  In other words, if you open a
brand-new composition window, and do nothing or choose not to save your
edits when you close Agent, the window will not get restored.
If you don't want this new behavior, check the option Open a single
browser window in the Main Window panel.  Agent will then behave as in
previous releases.
The Main Window panel option Remember default window positions tells
Agent to remember the most recent position and size of each type of
window (browser, filters, task log, task manager, and composition
window), for opening new windows.  When you open a new window of a given
type, Agent will position the window as the last instance of that window
was positioned.  For example, if you always like your composition
windows positioned at a particular spot on the screen, Agent will always
place them there.  Agent records each window type's position and size
whenever you close a window of that type.
Filter Usenet Message by Message-ID
You can now filter Usenet messages by message-id.  This can be a great
spam-fighting feature.  Some posters may be clever in how they mix up
the subject and author fields of spam messages, but often the messages
they send have a common factor in each message-id.
You can use any or all characters in the message-id for filtering.  For
example, if you see a a message-id like
beff99a9-ad20-4f3c...@v42g2000yqv.googlegroups.com
 you
can paste this entire id into the filter window, or just parts that you
think can identify a particular poster.  You may need to experiment with
this, so you may not want to delete messages by filtering until you are
sure your filtering is doing what you want.
Of course, you can combine message-id's with other filtering techniques
using Agent's expression language. For example:
*To ignore or watch posts from Google Groups: message-id: google
*To ignore or watch Agent posts: message-id: 
4ax.com
Faster Sample-by-Date
Today's Usenet service providers offer groups with literally millions of
messages.  Agent's sampling features are designed to let you try the
newsgroup without downloading a large number of headers.  In previous
versions, if you wanted to sample by date, i.e. specify how many days
back you want to sample the group, this could be a very slow process
because Agent downloaded all available headers to determine which ones
were within the desired date range.  The alternative was to sample by
the number of headers, which is much faster.  The problem with this
approach is, you really have no idea how far back you might go.  You may
have to try several times to get what you want.
Agent 5.0, uses a different process for performing sample by date (it
uses a binary search to zero in on the starting message) and will in
almost all cases be much faster.
This feature is per-server and is optional, but is turned on by default
for all your news servers.  If for some reason a particular news server
has problems with this approach, you can turn it off for that server.
Open the news server panel for that server (Tools menu, Servers and
Accounts dialog), click the Advanced Settings button and uncheck the box
Use binary search to sample headers by date.
Date Filtering in Message Views
Message views are a quick and powerful way to determine what messages
you see in the Message List pane .  You can view all unread messages (or
all read messages), messages that are marked keep, or watch, or ... any
combination of various message properties.  Agent 5.0 adds the ability
to view only messages with dates in a specified range.  
Open the Manage Views dialog, on the View menu, Custom Message View
flyout.  (You can also click the binoculars at the top of the Message
List pane, then click the Manage Views button.)
You specify an earliest date and a latest date.  The filter selects
those messages that fall within the specified times.  If you don't
specify an earliest date then Agent will select all messages from the
very earliest in the folder up to the latest date.  If you don't specify
a latest date then Agent selects all messages from the earliest date to
the present.   (Of course if you select neither, Agent selects all
messages, subject to other filters you may have defined.)
Simple View:
Check the box in front of the filter you want to enable, then specify
the number of days or weeks prior to the current day as the value for
the filter.  Agent will tell you what the actual date will be so you can
verify this is the value you want.
Advanced View:
A date expression is defined with the form: , i.e. the expression is two
numbers (the number of days) enclosed in angle brackets, separated by a
comma.
The filter selects those messages with dates that fall within the
specified range of days.  For example, the expression <1,1> selects
messages from yesterday (one day ago).  The wildcard "*" may be used to
specify no limit for one of the values.  For example, <*,10> selects all
messages from the beginning of time through 10 days ago.  And, <10,*>
selects all messages from 10 days ago through the present.
For new installations we added the pre-defined filter "Messages Posted
in Last 7 Days", which has the expression "<7,*>".
Note: When implementing date filters we also added line filtering to the
Simple View tab.  Previously it was available only on the Advanced View
tab.
Other Features
When viewing messages it's easy to hit the wrong key on your keyboard,
and some keys have immediate consequences.  For example, when viewing a
message, if you hit "H", all header fields for messages will be
displayed.  If you find yourself doing this frequently, you can disable
certain single-key accelerators using the Disable view menu keyboard
accelerators for Mom checkbox on the Options dialog, Main Window panel.
Note: This option has been added to assist the mother of the Agent
programmer. (Hence the name.)  But it will also help prevent errors
caused when your cat walks across your keyboard.
Startup Problems Fixed
We fixed several issues that caused Agent to crash when starting.  Not
only will the program now start correctly but in many cases you will
receive a warning letting you know that Agent has identified and will
repair the problem.
Other Problems Fixed
Closing the Manage Bookmarks dialog if no bookmarks were assigned to the
menu would cause Agent to crash.
Searching in the address book would at times come up with some
"interesting" results.  For example, for the contact name Yogi Bear and
email address 
yo...@jellystone.gov
, the search string "ry" would match
this record (last letter of the name, first letter of the address).
Newsgroup folders with a leading "0" (zero) in their names were created
with empty Usenet access plans.  
Related to this, sometimes adding one of these "0" groups would cause
Agent to crash.
Agent's Usenet subject abbreviation feature failed on some "interesting"
subject names, causing Agent to crash.
HTML messages with a null byte characters caused attachments not to be
displayed.
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http://www.forteinc.com/release/notes.php?id=50
Faccio riferimento a quanto riportato su 
http://tinyurl.com/8vrp5w
Avevo gia' acquistato l'upgrade dall'attuale 1.93/32.576 (IT) che
utilizzo con soddisfazione (per la verita' utilizzo con soddisfazione
Agent - primo amore - sin dalle prime versioni) alla ver. 4.x ( che ,
come si vede  NON ancora utilizzo solo per pigrizia).
 Ritengo pero' opportuno riproporre  la domanda con una piccola
integrazione : ci potra' essere - ci sara' -  ci si sta lavorando
(scusami Sleepers , ma non sono proprio in grado di collaborare per
mia totale ignoranza della lingua) ) una localizzazione  per questa
versione ? 
Se mi dai una piccola speranza,  acquisto subito la nuova versione::
19 dollari (=13,65 euro ad oggi se non vengono applicate le famose
"taxes" ) per Agent sono piu' che ben spesi.
Grazie e scusatemi tutti per la prolissita'.
Andrea    

"taxes" ) per Agent sono piu' che ben spesi.
Sorry, ma nemmeno io ho speranze di rivedere Agent in italiano a breve.
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Cavoli ne hanno fatte di correzioni e modifiche di funzioni e... Le cose
che interessano a molti no tipo le X-Faces, la possibilita' di utilizzarlo
in lingua Italiana o a piacimento, la personalizzazione a piacere (tipo
alla 40tute dialog) ecc...
Mah !!
Attendo un altro poco allora.
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