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Titolo: Whiting risponde ad alcune questioni chiave nella vicenda Bianchi (Autosport)

Formula 1 race director Charlie Whiting's initial report into Jules 
Bianchi's Japanese Grand Prix crash was supplied to FIA president Jean 
Todt on Friday.
 
Just a few hours later, the governing body broke its silence on the 
details surrounding the horrific accident that has left the French 
driver fighting for his life.
 
After days of speculation, a lengthy press conference provided greater 
clarity about the events at Suzuka and what lessons have been learned.
 
Here AUTOSPORT picks out the key answers that were given as efforts to 
improve safety continues.
 
WAS IT WRONG TO START THE RACE AT 3PM?
 
Moving forward the start of the Japanese GP from 3pm due to weather 
fears was discussed, but rejected by race organisers.
 
Some have linked the start time to contributing to the Bianchi crash, 
but Whiting does not agree.
 
Charlie Whiting: "Firstly, the race start time is not really a matter 
for the FIA.
 
"I did suggest to the organisers that they might want to consider doing 
it earlier to get the race in, as the forecast was worse than it turned 
out to be. They didn't want to do that.
 
"I warned them that we would not run the race unless it was safe to run 
it, and there was a high probability that they would not have a race.
 
"They said no, they wanted to stick with the 3pm start time. But for me, 
the race start time is totally unconnected to the incident in question."
 
WHY DID THE FIA NOT BRING OUT THE SAFETY CAR TO DEAL WITH THE RECOVERY 
OF ADRIAN SUTIL'S CAR?
 
There have been many claims that the FIA should have brought out the 
safety car for the retrieval of Adrian Sutil's stricken Sauber.
 
Whiting says that doing so would be a break from normal procedure, and 
that double waved yellows is standard practice for the type of recovery 
that was taking place at Suzuka.
 
Whiting: "We put double waved yellows out because we felt the incident 
could be dealt with without using the safety car.
 
"The next stage up is a safety car but, because the car was well away 
from the track and against the tyres, it is the normal procedure for us 
to follow under those circumstances. We didn't see any need for a safety 
car."
 
DID BIANCHI SLOW DOWN ENOUGH FOR YELLOW FLAGS?
 
Double waved yellows inform drivers to slow down and be prepared to stop.
 
The FIA said that Bianchi had reacted and backed off compared to his 
previous lap, but did not reveal just how much slower he was.
 
Whiting: "I know what speed he left the track at. We have seen the data 
from all the cars.
 
"A lot of cars came through the double waved yellow sector, not everyone 
slowed down as much.
 
"There were some that didn't slow down much and some slowed down a lot - 
and I don't think we need to go into the detail of how much he slowed 
down relative to the others.
 
"Suffice to say, we do have that data. He did slow down and it is a 
matter of degree."
 
WERE THE MARSHALS RIGHT TO SHOW A GREEN FLAG AFTER THE INCIDENT?
 
Video footage of the Bianchi crash taken by a fan revealed a green flag 
being displayed after the accident - as is standard protocol.
 
There have been stories questioning whether or not this was a mistake, 
but Whiting says he is wholly happy with what the marshals did once the 
recovery was taking place behind that marshal post.
 
Whiting: "It was entirely the correct signal, because it was after the 
obstruction.
 
"What you must understand is that the green does not mean you can start 
racing because you have seen the green, you cannot start racing until 
you reach the green.
 
"It is exactly the same as a yellow. If you see a yellow going in to the 
first corner, you don't have to obey it until you get to it."
 
WERE THERE DELAYS IN THE FIA UNDERSTANDING HOW SERIOUS BIANCHI'S CRASH WAS?
 
The nature of the Bianchi crash meant that signals designed to alert 
race control of a major incident did not get relayed back, as systems on 
the car had been destroyed.
 
With television cameras not picking up the crash either, Whiting 
revealed that he had initially been unaware of how serious the situation 
was.
 
Whiting: "Simply the car was not visible
 
"My first thoughts were looking at the screen, where you saw the tractor 
recovering the car, 'this is taking a long time, it's taking longer than 
I expected.'
 
"Normally the marshals in Suzuka work really, really quickly. Then they 
said a car has hit the tractor.
 
"It was the clerk of the course. They got a message back from the post, 
that a car has hit the tractor. I said, 'what do you mean?' I couldn't 
see a car hit the tractor.
 
"It then took a while to get another camera and then we could see there 
was a car there.
 
"It was not completely apparent the condition of the driver: is the 
driver hurt? Is anyone hurt? When we found out we dispatched safety and 
medical cars."
 
Whiting estimated the delay was only around 20 seconds.
 
WHY WAS BIANCHI TAKEN TO HOSPITAL BY AMBULANCE?
 
In serious incidents, drivers are normally flown to hospital by 
helicopter. The decision to send Bianchi via ambulance was questioned at 
the time, but the explanation for why the FIA did that is clear.
 
FIA chief medical officer Jean-Charles Piette: "The main referral 
hospital, which is Mie General Medical Centre, is 15km from the circuit. 
The distance by road is supposed to be 25 minutes under normal 
circumstances.
 
"When Jules had his accident, the chief medical officer told me at that 
moment that the helicopter can take off from the circuit but cannot land 
at the hospital.
 
"So we decided, as initially thought from the morning, to use a 
resuscitation ambulance to go to hospital. With a police escort, the 
duration of the transfer was 32 minutes."
 
When asked if the extra time affected Bianchi's conditions, medical 
rescue co-ordinator Ian Roberts said: "The excess time was only seven 
minutes throughout the whole of the transfer.
 
"Jules was monitored very closely and he arrived at hospital in exactly 
the same state physiologically as when we left - so no.
 
"It was quite stable throughout and made no difference."
 
WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP?
 
As well as the FIA looking at ways to introduce new yellow flag speed 
limits, a full report on the crash is to be submitted to the its Safety 
Commission, which is headed by Peter Wright.
 
An expert panel may then be set up to look at lessons that can be 
learned to ensure that such an accident will never happen again.
 
FIA president Jean Todt said: "We have to learn from what has happened 
and we will learn from what has happened, because we cannot be facing 
such a situation again."
 
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"Correr, competir, eu levo isso no meu sangue, e' parte de mim, e' parte 
de minha vida."
- Ayrton Senna -

 relative to the others.
 
CVD
 
ci vuole il controllo di potenza della F1 da parte della federazione.
deve essere possibile da remoto rallentare le auto per tutto il giro o 
per sole alcune parti del circuito.
Ad un pilota non si puo' chiedere di guidare il piu' veloce possibile e 
poi chiedergli di rallentare "un po'".
Solo dei fessi come maxbass o peterray possono credere che il sistema 
possa funzionare bene.
 
 

 per sole alcune parti del circuito.
 
Sarebbe molto semplice da attuare senza problemi per piloti e case.
In corrispondenza di vari punti del circuito (ne bastano 5 o 6, non ne 
servono mille) si tracciano delle delle belle linee bianche trasversali 
in mezzo alla pista e, a bordo pista, dei segnali luminosi ben visibili 
e dei rilevatori di velocità.
 
Quando deve essere limitata la velocità in un certo tratto o lungo tutta 
la pista, CW o chi per lui attiva la limitazione che segnala con le 
segnalazioni luminose a bordo pista e all'interno dell'abitacolo che il 
pilota deve inserire il limitatore di sicurezza a partire dalla linea 
bianca corrispondente. Se deve valere solo per un pezzo del circuito ci 
sarà la segnalazione luminosa verde per dare il via libera dalla riga 
bianca corrispondente.
 
Così la responsabilità è tutta del pilota e non possono esserci 
contestazioni, il rallentamento è identico per tutti e quindi la gara e 
le strategie non vengono compromesse, i punti in cui rallentare non sono 
casuali ma ben definiti e scelti in modo da non dare problemi ai piloti 
durante le loro manovre, e si evita il ricorso alla SC che è una merdata 
di prima categoria (e non si fa rischiare la vita anche al pilota della 
SC che in quelle condizioni ha il suo bel da fare visto che non guida 
una F1).
 
Se il pilota passa ad una velocità più sostenuta del limite gli si 
affibbia un DT come per il transito a velocità elevata in corsia box.
E volendo fare i fighi si potrebbero anche mettere limitazioni diverse 
in base alla gravità dell'evento per evitare di rovinare i motori... 
p.es
. 100, 150 e 200kmh.
 
-- 
Flavio Visentin
 
Scientists discovered what's wrong with the female brain: on the left
side, there's nothing right, and on the right side, there's nothing left

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si appunto. basta fare: bandiera gialla = vietato sorpassare 
doppia bandiera gialla: limitatore a 120 kmh 
il tutto fino alla bandiera verde
tenendo presente che i piloti hanno giá le spie delle bandiere sul volante
/ cruscotto
 
safety car va bene come è, appena appare la scritta sc i piloti rallentano
vistosamente perchè hanno un tempo minimo per raggiungere il check point
successivo...

 successivo...
 
La Safety Car è una coglionata galattica che ammazza lo spettacolo e lo 
sport falsando i risultati. Da quando è stata introdotta scopiazzando le 
gare americane non ha fatto altro che danneggiare la F1.
Va eliminata e gli strumenti come ho scritto in precedenza ci sono.
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 Va eliminata e gli strumenti come ho scritto in precedenza ci sono.
 
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-- 
"Io apprezzo la sua onesta' e quindi onestamente spero che lui e 
pieppiero si levano dai coglioni nelle prossime partite." - io speriamo 
che me la cavacci, 19.06.2008

On 10/11/2014 09:39 PM, THe_ZiPMaN wrote:
[snip]
 
...stile "code sixty" del WEC insomma...
Me gusta...
 
 
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 No, perché la cosa può causare problemi di varia natura... 
 
Quoto. Troppo rischio che qualcosa vada storto.
Son curioso di vedere l'esperimento "Le Mans" in quel di Austin.