Newsgroup: it.sport.formula1.moderato
Titolo: Però ... che clima ......

Da F1-Live.
"Berger, che a settembre dovrebbe lasciare la BMW avrebbe detto : "Le 
promesse fatte dalla Williams non sono state mantenute e quindi non è 
stato possibile realizzare le grandi aspettative nutrite. La BMW ha 
costruito i migliori motori per numerose stagioni, ma questi sono 
sempre stati rallentati dalla Williams. Ciò significa che possiamo 
vincere una o due gare, nelle quali il nostro motore darebbe una buona 
mano, ma il campionato resta un sogno."
Tuttavia, sebbene Theissen ha detto questa settimana che la BMW rimarrà 
in F1 dopo il 2004, non ha confermato che lo farà con la Williams. Ha 
invece affermato che la casa tedesca non rifornirà altri team per 
l'effetto che ciò avrebbe sulle risorse interne."
Spero che si ritrovino a correre con il Cosworth della Minardi.
E' vero che sono un pezzo di storia della F1, ma viste le figure che ci 
hanno fatto fare in questi ultimi 2 anni sono impietoso.

in F1 dopo il 2004, non ha confermato che lo farà con la Williams.
A Ferrari-Renault-Jaguar-Toyota no per ovvi motivi, alla McLaren
neanche (Mercedes mi pare abbia previsto investimenti ingentissimi nei
prossimi anni), alla Williams non più, chi rimane?
BAR (e la Honda?), Sauber, Jordan, Minardi?
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Ciao, Muttley

 BAR (e la Honda?), Sauber, Jordan, Minardi?
Non è detto che non sia la Williams.
Quello che potrebbe essere è che non sia la Williams "di oggi"; magari 
una Williams con parte della proprietà in mano alla BMW .......
Sauber direi di no avendo già rinnovato il contratto con Ferrari.
Jordan .... beh ... potrebbe pure essere; sono sull'orlo del 
fallimento, quindi costerebbero poco; certo sarebbe poco meno che 
metter su tutto da zero.
Minardi lo escluderei.

 Spero che si ritrovino a correre con il Cosworth della Minardi.
Potrebbe essere un'idea
E potremmo avere delle sorprese
Reputo il Ford uno dei migliori motori in F1 attualmente
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Fluored aka FF
www.m4driving.sm/route67
Chi corre sulla strada è un coglione, forse anche un impotente

 Reputo il Ford uno dei migliori motori in F1 attualmente
Beh di sicuro sarebbero più indietro di dove sono ora.

> Sauber direi di no avendo già rinnovato il contratto con Ferrari.
fino a quando c'è il contratto con Ferrari?
In Sauber si parla già tedesco e sta per entrare in azione la più
moderna galleria del vento in Europa. Una proposta di acquisto potrebbe
venir fatta?
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 venir fatta?
Azzo ... meglio di quella di Paragon?
La stessa Williams pare stia per avere una galleria 1:1
Comunque se i signori di Grove se la tirano troppo per conto mio 
possono trovarsi anche un altro fornitore ... ma io non mi occupo di 
pianificazione industriale ..... :)

 La stessa Williams pare stia per avere una galleria 1:1
http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/030210/65/dsurz.html
Monday February 10, 07:41 AM 
 
The Sauber wind tunnel
 
 
"Aerodynamics is the primary factor affecting a modern Formula 1 car.
Consequently, the wind tunnel is the primary tool for creating a
successful racing car. In recent years, the top teams have significantly
increased their investments in this field. It was therefore a logical
decision for me to build a wind tunnel that sets new benchmarks,"
explains Peter Sauber.
"It was important for us to build a facility that is not necessarily
tied to Formula One use. Our wind tunnel in Hinwil will enable us to
test production road cars up to and including the size of vans."
Plans for building a wind tunnel at Sauber's premises in Hinwil date
back to 2000, with the ground-breaking ceremony for the 70-million-
Swiss-franc project held in October 2001. Providing that the project
continues to stay on track, the facility will be commissioned at the end
of 2003, enabling the aerodynamic development of the Sauber C23 to be
continued in the new facility during the course of the 2004 season. The
first car to be developed completely in Sauber's own wind tunnel will be
the C24.
Regarding factors such as wind speeds, the size of the test section and
the models, the dimensions of the rolling road and the model motion
system as well as data acquisition technology, the Sauber facility will
compare favourably with any of the existing Formula 1 wind tunnels.
Sauber's technical director Willy Rampf sums up the facility's
potential:
"We are convinced that the total scope of its features will be setting
new benchmarks within Formula One".
The wind tunnel is of a closed-circuit design. The maximum length and
width of the steel tube is 62 metres and 28 metres respectively, and the
largest tube diameter is 9.4 metres. When operating under full load, the
power consumption of the system amounts to 3000 kW. This enables wind
speeds of 10 to 80 metres per second (i.e. nearly 300 kph) to be reached
in the test section.
In order to expand the testing capabilities beyond 50% and 60% scale
models to production road cars, up to and including the size of vans,
the test section will be unusually large. With a 15-square-metre
cross-section and a particularly long rolling road, the test section of
the Sauber facility is larger than that of any existing wind tunnel fit
for Formula One level testing.
In order to simulate side-slip conditions up to a maximum angle of 10
degrees, the entire measuring platform can be rotated. The platform is
fitted with a steel-belt rolling road. This is required to accurately
simulate the relative motion between the vehicle and the road, as well
as the rotating wheels. The "Flat-Trac" rolling road system built by MTS
for the Sauber wind tunnel is currently the largest of its kind in the
world.
The exceptionally wide moving steel belt reaches the same velocity as
the air stream, nearly 300 kph. Located underneath the moving belt are
load cells, which are used to measure the wheel lift during tests. MTS
also supplies the model motion system, a special overhead suspension
system for the models.
Sauber's decision in favour of a longer than standard layout for the
test section was based on a specific consideration. This layout allows
two models to be positioned one behind the other, enabling slipstream
and air turbulence simulations.
"Due to their highly efficient aerodynamics, modern Formula One cars are
particularly vulnerable to changes in air flow. For the first time, this
test configuration now enables us systematically to measure these
influences and to take appropriate corrective action," explains Rampf.
"Moreover, given the additional possibility of testing full-size Formula
One racing cars, factors such as the cooling or the air flow around the
driver's helmet can be measured precisely."
The measuring devices represent a joint development by Sauber's
specialists in conjunction with RHS and MTS. These two companies supply
the complete control, display and load measurement system, including
tailor-made software. The system combines the benefit of obtaining
extremely precise readings with high-level data acquisition efficiency.
Two buildings under one roof
In addition to boasting impressive dimensions (65-metre length, 50-
metre width, 17-metre height, 63,000 cubic metres of construction
volume), a glass façade aims to convey the unique character of the
facility that combines its industrial purpose with that of a museum.
Although presenting the exterior impression of a homogenous hall, the
facility actually comprises two clearly separated elements. These are
the wind tunnel hall itself and a multi-storey wing that accommodates
work areas, a hall for special events and the Sauber museum. The wind
tunnel hall will serve as a representative area. For special events it
can be sectioned off from the working area by glass walls.
In addition to the lobby, the ground floor houses the Sauber museum,
exhibiting a representative selection of competition vehicles that
document the history of the successful Swiss racing car constructor. A
room for special events located on the first floor can accommodate 80
people. This room can be used by Sauber's partners and sponsors for
hosting marketing or customer relations events as well as seminars in a
truly unique setting. Making full use of the entire space available
allows the hosting of up to 300 people.
The second and third floors are occupied by two identical workrooms. The
two floors are earmarked for Sauber's use. In addition to the engineers
working in the wind tunnel, model designers, model builders, CFD
specialists and other members of the aerodynamics team will use the
area.
Nevertheless, the design of both levels allows them to be made available
to customers, if needed. The infrastructure even enables two different
teams to work in the building at the same time, without ever meeting
face to face.
Peter Sauber's closing comments: "The new wind tunnel, in terms of its
overall concept, is truly unique. It visibly documents our prime
objective of continually improving the competitiveness of our team and
of ensuring that Hinwil remains an attractive location in the long run."
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Ellamadonna ... anche loro stanno costruendo un mostro.
Ho capito male però che la dimensione massima dei modelli è 60% (della 
grandezza reale)?
Perchè mi pare di aver letto da altra parte che a Paragon possono 
arrivare a 1:1 (ma forse mi sbaglio) e così, nelle intenzioni, la nuova 
galleria Williams.
Certo che 3MW sono una discreta potenza ........ 4 motori di F1 e mezzo 
per spingere aria ..... :)

 per spingere aria ..... :)
http://www.sauber.ch/en/about/daten.html?noflash=1
tutte le info sul sito Sauber.
Cmq vanno in 1:1 o in alternativa in tandem (effetto scia) modelli
50-60%
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