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Titolo: [Emmy] Reazioni

Un paio di reazioni... non da siti di fan, sia chiaro, ma da siti "neutri":
da "Corona", entrambe:
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"Buffy" Gets Dissed By Emmy Voters
Second Update Thursday, July 12, 2001 (3:50 PM, PST)
I count myself a fan of good TV. I like to see quality shows that combine
great acting, writing and production values, and I'm happy that there's
currently a huge variety in outstanding television programming being
broadcast on the tube these days. So why does Buffy the Vampire Slayer, one
of the best-written shows on TV right up there with Aaron Sorkin's The West
Wing or David Chase's The Sopranos keep getting overlooked by the Emmy
nomination members? Just because it's got vampires and a young cast? Are the
Emmy voters really that shallow and out-of-touch with what's on the tube?
Well, it sure looks that way. When today's Emmy nominations were announced
there was zero for Buffy. Michael has the news in today's Test Pattern about
which other shows got the nod and to also talk about the injustice of it
all. Hey, it's not about appeasing the fanboy in me; it if were any other
kick-ass show getting overlooked I'd be saying the same thing. The fact that
Buffy is getting discriminated because it is a genre show is extremely
unprofessional. Lame indeed.
Patrick@CA
(and there's my two cents)
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Emmy's Continue To Keep Head Up Ass  TV NEWS
 Thursday, July 12, 2001... Remember when the Emmy's had credibility? Me
neither. This morning, the 2001 Primetime Emmys were announced, and while
heavily nominated shows like The Sopranos (leading with 22 nominations) and
The West Wing (second with 18 noms) certainly deserve all the accolades they
get, the glaring absence of ANY nominations for the brilliant Buffy the
Vampire Slayer is a major indication of just how out of touch Emmy voters
are. Nominating the stumbling ER and the melodramatic The Practice over the
series, as well as Amy Brenneman over Sarah Michelle Gellar, is bad enough.
But the lack of a writing or directing nomination for Joss Whedon's stellar
mid-season episode The Body, widely regarded as one of network television's
finest hours, is ridiculous and insulting. As long as the Emmy's keep a
blind eye towards innovative programming aimed outside of their prehistoric
sensibilities, the award's reputation will continue to plummet.
A complete list of the nominees can be found at
http://www.emmys.com/downloads/images/2001noms.pdf
. Or just click on the
Official Emmys website.
[Reported by Mike (No Marsters, no Hannigan, no NUTHIN! NUTHIN!!) ]
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 Un paio di reazioni... non da siti di fan, sia chiaro, ma da siti "neutri":
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Aggiungerei altre 3 conferme:
Da USAToday:
"Dreary list snubs deserving shows"
By Robert Bianco, USA TODAY
 
Why do they even bother to vote on nominations for the Emmys? They
should save themselves the trouble and re-release the same list every
year, with minor alterations for cancellations. And even cancellations
may not matter: If I were John Lithgow, I'd keep submitting my name
every year and see whether the voters ever notice my show has left the
air. The TV academy has never been one for big surprises, but seldom
has a list of repeat nominees been as by-the-book dreary as the one
released Thursday. 
You have to wonder: Do these people even watch TV? Certainly if they
do, they only watch the four big networks — and whatever free tapes
they're sent by HBO.
To be sure, some of the most familiar repeat names deserve the
continued recognition, including such past multiple winners as Dennis
Franz, Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce. But far too many repeat
nominees were unworthy of the honor — and they crowded out far too
many more deserving shows.
By far the worst choices were made in the drama series category, where
The Practice and ER — two former winners that had substandard years —
took slots that should have gone to either Once and Again, Buffy the
Vampire Slayer or Gilmore Girls. Then again, the shows that deserve
the award more than ER are legion: You can start with Boston Public,
CSI and Angel and work your way down to Walker, Texas Ranger.
Granted, all of those shows would be competing for second place,
because the Emmy almost certainly will go to The West Wing or The
Sopranos. But it's still outrageous that a system supposedly designed
to reward good work instead rewards big ratings while ignoring any
show that's too new, any network that's too small and any actor who's
too young — with the notable and welcome exception this year of
Malcolm in the Middle's Frankie Muniz, nominated for best comic actor.
Actually, as fine as Wing and Sopranos are, they unduly dominated
their categories, with 40 nominations between them. Indeed, the only
surprise in the dramatic actor race was a bad one: nominating Wing's
Rob Lowe over Public's Chi McBride or Once's Billy Campbell, whose
omission is once and again one of Emmy's most flagrant crimes. And as
much as I adore Stockard Channing, she's not a supporting actress,
she's a recurring guest — and her nomination points out the
foolishness of allowing actors and shows to choose their own
categories.
In general, the comedy nominations were less egregious, in part
because there were fewer good comedies competing for recognition. Even
so, it's hard to comprehend a process that passes over Titus and The
Job while granting a pass to a weak season of Will & Grace. A good
case can be made for renominating Eric McCormack and Debra Messing,
but the show itself didn't deserve a nomination, and neither, sorry to
say, did Sean Hayes or Megan Mullally — Emmy-caliber actors who did
not turn in Emmy-worthy performances.
Of course, recognizing that change would require Emmy voters to put a
little thought and effort into the nominations. And that would be the
biggest surprise of all.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/enter/tv/emmys-2001/2001-07-13-emmy-snubs.htm
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Del secondo, da Salon.com, vi copioincollo solo la parte iniziale
perché sono 2 pagine. Potete leggere l'articolo intero qui: 
http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/2001/07/12/emmy_noms/index.html
 
"Who does Buffy have to slay to get an Emmy nomination?"
The lamest awards show in the land stiffs the best show on TV --
again.
By Joyce Millman
July 12, 2001 | 
She saved the world a lot, but that just doesn't cut it with Emmy
voters. Despite a superb season capped by two of the most talked-about
episodes of any drama series this year, not to mention a vigorous
grassroots "give 'em an Emmy" campaign by fans, "Buffy the Vampire
Slayer" has earned a grand total of zero Emmy nominations. 
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writing nomination for the episode "Hush.") 
 
But, then, this is the Emmys we're talking about, the lamest awards
show in the land. In writing, directing and acting, "Buffy" towered
over every drama in primetime this season, with the exception of "The
Sopranos," but the dust-covered relics who make these nominations
can't get their heads around a show with "Vampire" in the title. Or
maybe it's the "Buffy" part that throws them off. 
Anyway, this was probably the last chance for "Buffy" and star Sarah
Michelle Gellar to score a nomination; the show moves to UPN next
season and if you think Emmy voters are snobs when it comes to the WB
... 
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Last, but not least, le reazioni della WB: è di parte, ma legittima.
 
Da Mr.Showbiz:
"WB Miffed Over Buffy Emmy Snub"
 
Buffy the Vampire Slayer is one of the most critically acclaimed shows
on TV, but once again it's zero for five in Emmy consideration. 
Despite a lavish Emmy campaign from the WB on behalf of star Sarah
Michelle Gellar (who has a Daytime Emmy from her soap opera days) and
this season's much-praised episode "The Body," [spolierino] va juvpu
Ohssl qrnyf jvgu gur qrngu bs ure zbgure, the show didn't net one
nomination. 
The WB is particularly miffed since it's lost its chance to bask in
Buffy's glory: The network's most acclaimed show was won by UPN in a
high-stakes bidding war. 
Also overlooked was another critical fave, Gilmore Girls, which rated
better at the last Screen Actors Guild awards, where lead Lauren
Graham received a nomination. 
In fact, the WB didn't get a single Emmy nomination in any category
for any show. Adding insult to injury is the fact that rival network
UPN racked up 10 nominations, eight alone for Star Trek: Voyager. 
"If Catcher in the Rye were released today, Academy members would look
at the book and consider it a dime-store paperback," railed WB
Entertainment President Jordan Levin to Variety about the perceived
oversight. "The academy is totally out of step with the viewing
public. Every report I heard this morning listed the same old boring
shows." 
Levin, who's an academy member, said he thinks there's a "reverse
ageism" among voters, adding, "[The voters] are making the Emmy Awards
irrelevant." 
Although TV Academy chairwoman Meryl Marshall-Daniels concedes that
"the WB has some superb programming," she tells Variety that it's hard
to unseat the dramas that were nominated for best series — which are
the same contenders as last year — ER, The Practice, Law & Order, The
West Wing, and The Sopranos. 
http://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/2001/7/buffyemmysnub071301.html
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In conclusione, credo si possa essere quasi contenti che "Buffy" non
sia stato nemmeno preso in considerazione... Ho detto *quasi*...
^_____^
 
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 Aggiungerei altre 3 conferme:
Gia', sono tutti d'accordo nel definirli buffoni :(
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cose non mi riescono benissimo...   
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Ciao, benvenuta!!! E scusami se non ho risposto alla tua bellissima
mail su The Body! :-/
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 cose non mi riescono benissimo...   
Ma ciiaaaaaaaoooo.... :-)))))))
Papeluna, anche tu qui? :-)
Bye,
 Emmanuele.
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 Gia', sono tutti d'accordo nel definirli buffoni :(
Come gli Oscar. L'ultima volta che i banfoni dell'Academy hanno osato
credo (la mia memoria però non è affidabile) sia stato nel '91, quando
fecero l'ovetto fuori dalla cesta premiando "Il silenzio degli
innocenti". Poi, fra navi che affondano e rudi guerrieri, è stato il
festival dell'ovvio (e del mercato)... :(( Viene voglia di fregarsene, 
ma la loro ottusità è indisponente.
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 mail su The Body! :-/
Ti capisco: la mia logorrea spaventa... anche me! ^______^
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 Papeluna, anche tu qui? :-)
Ebbene sì, sono venuta a devastare quest'oasi di pace e serenità!
^___^ Devo pur cominciare a conoscere gente nel caso il NG di Buffy
ottenga l'autorizzaaione...
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Ti capisco: la mia logorrea spaventa... anche me! ^______^
ROTFL! No no, volevo risponderti punto per punto, ma non ho mai
trovato il tempo, e mi sembrava di  'non aver studiato' visto che non
avevo visto la puntata ;) Ma forse ora rimediero' quest'estate e ti
sapro' dire ;)))))
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ottenga l'autorizzaaione...
Noooooo, l'hai detto!!!!!!!!! Non fare come Xander ;))))))))P
(chi si ricorda in che puntata? :-)
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 (chi si ricorda in che puntata? :-)
Ho un dubbio... o e` "Never kill a boy on the first date" 
(Il primo appuntamento), oppure e` "Nightmares" (Incubi).
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(Il primo appuntamento), oppure e` "Nightmares" (Incubi).
Aspetto delucidazioni da altri 'studiosi'.. io proprio non ricordo,
sigh!!!
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 Aspetto delucidazioni da altri 'studiosi'.. io proprio non ricordo,
Aah credevo fosse un quiz, con tanto di premi e "cotillions" :-)))
Vediamo allora mumble mumble.. boh! nessuno si rocroda la frase esatta?
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Vediamo allora mumble mumble.. boh! nessuno si rocroda la frase esatta?
Ma che premi!! La mia gratitudine, non basta? :-)P
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 Ma che premi!!
Ti sta premendo? E cosa? Come? Dove?

Ti sta premendo? E cosa? Come? Dove?
ROTFL!!! Eccone un altro ;)) Ma insomma, un po' di serieta' qui
dentro! :))P
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 Ti sta premendo? E cosa? Come? Dove?
ROTFL! Questa era bella :-))
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ROTFL! Questa era bella :-))
ANTIPATICI, gnegnegne! :-)PPPPPP
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ottenga l'autorizzaaione...
Conosciamoci my Dear.... ^___^
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 sapro' dire ;)))))
Brava! Studia che a settembre ti interrogo. T'avviso che sono
un'insegnate molto severa, bastard inside-out direi... ^___^
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 Conosciamoci my Dear.... ^___^
Eccomi! Cosa vuoi sapere... ^_____^
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 (chi si ricorda in che puntata? :-)
Certamente non io: non riesco a ricordarmi nemmeno di me stessa...
^____^
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dentro! :))P
beh, se vuoi serieta' hai sbagliato niusgrup...
^^;
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ottenga l'autorizzaaione...
spero tu abbia votato, ovvio...
Ah, quasi dimenticavo: ben venuta (ma il tuo nickname non sara' forse
troppo corto??? io l'allungherei un poco... ^^;
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^____^
Ma qui dovrebbe pullulare di studiosi di Buffy ;) Mi crolla un mito,
eheh... :-))))))))
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un'insegnate molto severa, bastard inside-out direi... ^___^
Bastard inside, outside and all around? ^__________^
Cmq mi applichero' e scrivero' un saggio su The Body :-))))
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 (ma il tuo nickname non sara' forse troppo corto??? io l'allungherei un poco... ^^;
Lo so, ma io posto con Agent che non consente (almeno che io
sappia...) di usare più alias per più NG e siccome su 
it.fan.tv.er
 non
vogliono che mi sbarazzi dell'appellativo di Madrebadessa etc. (e anche 
io ci sono affezionata) non posso farlo: per cui sopportatelo, vi prego! ^_____^ 
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 eheh... :-))))))))
Toglimi pure dall'Olimpo perché la mia memoria ha piů buchi di una
fetta di emmenthal... :(((
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 Cmq mi applichero' e scrivero' un saggio su The Body :-))))
Scherzi a parte, una tesina la si potrebbe fare seriamente. 
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io ci sono affezionata) non posso farlo: per cui sopportatelo, vi prego! ^_____^ 
vabbe', vorra' dire che ti mailbomber... ehm ehm
intendevo dire...
che usero' un diminutivo...
^__^
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Scherzi a parte, una tesina la si potrebbe fare seriamente. 
Non scherzo! Se riesco a trovare un po' di tempo, potrei anche
farlo... ma e' il tempo che mi manca, al solito :(
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beh, se vuoi serieta' hai sbagliato niusgrup... ^^;
Acc... e' vero, dovevo andare su IFST ^_______^
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fetta di emmenthal... :(((
Formeresti una coppia perfetta con l'Uomo del formaggio, allora ^_^
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 Formeresti una coppia perfetta con l'Uomo del formaggio, allora ^_^
Lui usava le sottilette che sono sottili, ma compatte: la mia memoria
è compatta quanto il Grana grattuggiato... 
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 che usero' un diminutivo...
Puoi chiamarmi Madrebadessa: *ora* mi ci sono abituata... ^______^
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è compatta quanto il Grana grattuggiato... 
ROTFL... andiamo d'accordo allora.... purtroppo io non riesco a
ricordarmi neppure cosa ho mangiato ieri, figuriamoci una puntata di
Buffy di qualche stagione fa ^_^
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