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Titolo: 'Antani'

Hi
I recently jumped into this ancient english term, ANTANI,
I don't know the meaning, neither the origin.
It should concern the tuscan city of Florence (X-posted), but not for sure.
Can anybody help, and explain, thanks.
rgds,
Cgao

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Cgao Coma wrote:
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Since this native English speaker has never ever heqard this word I 
suspect taht it isn't an English word at all - certainly the spelling 
doesn't look English at all. My English dictionary doesn't seem to have 
heard of the word either. And neither does the Merriam-Webster On-Line 
dictionary.
Perhpas if you do a Google search on the term you might find some 
examples that will provide some enlightenment. I suspect that it's a 
name - perhaps a variant of Antony or Anthony. St. Anthony (Antonio in 
Italian) came from Padua, I believe, which is not too far away from 
Florence.
Einde O'Callaghan
Regards

In le message del Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:43:06 GMT, Cgao Coma ha scripte:
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There are many theories regarding the origin of this strange word, which is
indeed vernacularly used in the city of Florence.
 - "Antani" is a family name or patronimic often used in Hindi and
Urdu-speaking populations. It's a well known fact that Florence was visited
by a young indian prince in the XIX century. The prince died suddenly in
town, and was cremated in the Cascine park. A century later a new bridge on
the river Arno, the Indiano bridge, was dedicated to his memory.
 - "Antanus" is a name widely used in Lithuania. It's thought that some
Litvich Jews escaping a zarist pogrom sought asylum in the Florentine
Ghetto about 170 years ago. The classically trained civil servants of the
time mistakenly took "Antanus" for a Latin second declination word in -us,
and therefore assigned the surname "Antani" to the sons of a rabbi called
Antanus. In the Italian language many surnames have been created out of the
genitive of the father's name. E.g. Fabio Guglielmi, Fabio son of
Guglielmus. 
- Cantanos or Cantania (greek name Kantanos) is a small village in Crete.
It's thought that one the many Greek immigrants inhabiting the world famous
Borgo de' Greci during the Middle Ages was born in that village. As you
probably know the tuscan dialect spoken in Florence has a tendency to
pronounce the initial hard C of a word as a aspirated H (casa = hasa, this
is actually a phonetic substrate stemming directly from ancient Etruscan).
This way the legendary merchant Stavros Cantanos became Stavros Hantanos
and finally after three or four generations his lineage bore the family
name Antani.
- References to the dreaded Hanta virus which you may come up with are to
be disregarded. Word's usage has been well attested year before the
discovery of the Hanta strain!
- The word was popularized exactly 30 years ago in the seminal comedy film
about friendship and repressed homosexuality "Amici Miei" directed by
Monicelli and written by Pietro Germi. "Antani" is one the more remarkable
words used in the ramblings of the dyslexic count Raffaello Mascetti. It
has no particular meaning in the movie, it's simply the effect of Afasol, a
powerful popper drug surreptitiously administrated by Mascetti's physician
friend, Professor Sassaroli, a drug known to induce aphasia. It's possible
that Mascetti, Germi that is, was simply remembering one of his old high
school friends named Antani.
The lines from the movie have re-entered the popular language in Florence
and elsewhere in Italy: this ancient word full of mistery is now used to
evocate the times of glory of an ancient, noble past which will probably
never return. "Come fosse Antani", "It's as if Antani were still with us!"

 Omosessualità repressa?  Non ti sembra di esagerare?
Beh c'è l'esclamazione di Rambaldo Melandri nella scena degli schiaffi alla
stazione no ? Attenzione comunque che il post era, come dire, semiserio...

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CUT
You should ask to Marcel (our sbiriguda language master),beacuse sometimes
the word antani seems like tarapia tapioca in connection with all lexical
environment in italian and moreover in Florence language.
I suggest you to visit all the web site "come se fosse trazione bitonale"
considering that he lost contact with tarapia tapioca ... after..
Bye
Zer0

 Can anybody help, and explain, thanks.
No, I think antybody could help you, I'm sorry...
Achille Pièveloce/preripened

 Chi sei?
I think it's quella fava di N!Xau with smalizied IP
-- 
Lello Vitello
Nuovo cortometraggio:
www.lellovitello.it/la_luce.htm

Sorry for Italian but...
perché li prendete tutti per il culo?
I'll translate, one day. 
Stefano

perché li prendete tutti per il culo?
Because you can't arrive in IFD and don't be taken for the ass...
-- 
Tommaso
Difensore della Certezza Prematurata

 Because you can't arrive in IFD and don't be taken for the ass...
I lean it to you and I push with moderation (citation)
Zer0

I lean it to you and I push with moderation (citation)
Give me a littlekiss (citation)
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 I lean it to you and I push with moderation (citation)
OR I!
Achille Pièveloce/LOL

 Give me a littlekiss (citation)
After.. come with me in the car.. you know.. the car there with small
lights.. (citation)
Zer0

lights.. (citation)
.....the little blue lights that round and round and round and......
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 (citation)
Togliete il xpost che vi state facendo riconoscere in tre o quattro
continenti diversi..

continenti diversi..
Apparte che era voluto ma.... la cosa ti crea problemi? :-)
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 Apparte che era voluto ma.... la cosa ti crea problemi? :-)
Ah be', allora "continuiamo così, facciamoci del male"..

 Ecco, allora rimettiamocelo senza perer tempo :-)
Per le Caldaie, NON ANDATE DAI FRANCHISING FIORENTINAGAS sono degli 
incompetenti assoluti!
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 incompetenti assoluti!
e per le Caldine, dindoepasso?

 I recently jumped into this ancient english term, ANTANI,
non ci posso credere....

Sembra che Gianni abbia detto :
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Dalla Marisa, fa dei bomboloni veramente veramente speciali
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Dalla Marisa, fa dei bomboloni veramente veramente speciali
With risucchio?
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 With risucchio?
do you mean "ingoio"?
Oh my God! [cit.]

do you mean "ingoio"?
No!!!! "Ingoio" is the act of drinking the fruit of the sin.
"Risucchio" is the act of "rigoverna cappelle" after the "ingoio".
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 I suspect that it's a name - perhaps a variant of Antony or Anthony. St.
Anthony
You must be joking, right?
Cgao

 Achille Pièveloce/preripened
What's that you say?
Speak english!
Cgao

 the word antani seems like tarapia tapioca
Could it have the same root as sbiriguth?
best regards,
Cgao

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#include "generic_phy.h"
/*
  * Default Phy address
  */
#define PHY_ADDRESS							0x0001
/*
  * Phy registers unique to the KS8993.
  */
#define PHY_TX_CONTROL						0x3f
/*
  * ID register values to identify the Phy.
  * PHY_ID1 is the expected value from PHY_ID1_REG.
  * PHY_ID2 is the expected value from PHY_ID2_REG.
  */
#define PHY_ID1								0x0022
#define PHY_ID2								0x1430
//*
// * 100BaseTx PHY Control Register (8 bit Register 31) bit definitions
// These need changing when I find out where they actually are
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#define PHY_MII_ISOLATE						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_MASK						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_FD						0x06
#define PHY_MODE_10_FD						0x02
#define PHY_MODE_DEFAULT					0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_HD						0x04
#define PHY_MODE_10_HD						0x00
// */
#include "generic_phy.h"
/*
  * Default Phy address
  */
#define PHY_ADDRESS							0x0001
/*
  * Phy registers unique to the KS8993.
  */
#define PHY_TX_CONTROL						0x3f
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/*
  * ID register values to identify the Phy.
  * PHY_ID1 is the expected value from PHY_ID1_REG.
  * PHY_ID2 is the expected value from PHY_ID2_REG.
  */
#define PHY_ID1								0x0022
#define PHY_ID2								0x1430
//*
// * 100BaseTx PHY Control Register (8 bit Register 31) bit definitions
// These need changing when I find out where they actually are
#define PHY_MII_ISOLATE						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_MASK						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_FD						0x06
#define PHY_MODE_10_FD						0x02
#define PHY_MODE_DEFAULT					0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_HD						0x04
#define PHY_MODE_10_HD						0x00
// */
#include "generic_phy.h"
/*
  * Default Phy address
  */
#define PHY_ADDRESS							0x0001
/*
  * Phy registers unique to the KS8993.
  */
#define PHY_TX_CONTROL						0x3f
/*
  * ID register values to identify the Phy.
  * PHY_ID1 is the expected value from PHY_ID1_REG.
  * PHY_ID2 is the expected value from PHY_ID2_REG.
  */
#define PHY_ID1								0x0022
#define PHY_ID2								0x1430
//*
// * 100BaseTx PHY Control Register (8 bit Register 31) bit definitions
// These need changing when I find out where they actually are
#define PHY_MII_ISOLATE						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_MASK						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_FD						0x06
#define PHY_MODE_10_FD						0x02
#define PHY_MODE_DEFAULT					0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_HD						0x04
#define PHY_MODE_10_HD						0x00
// */
#include "generic_phy.h"
/*
  * Default Phy address
  */
#define PHY_ADDRESS							0x0001
/*
  * Phy registers unique to the KS8993.
  */
#define PHY_TX_CONTROL						0x3f
/*
  * ID register values to identify the Phy.
  * PHY_ID1 is the expected value from PHY_ID1_REG.
  * PHY_ID2 is the expected value from PHY_ID2_REG.
  */
#define PHY_ID1								0x0022
#define PHY_ID2								0x1430
//*
// * 100BaseTx PHY Control Register (8 bit Register 31) bit definitions
// These need changing when I find out where they actually are
#define PHY_MII_ISOLATE						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_MASK						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_FD						0x06
#define PHY_MODE_10_FD						0x02
#define PHY_MODE_DEFAULT					0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_HD						0x04
#define PHY_MODE_10_HD						0x00
// */
#include "generic_phy.h"
/*
  * Default Phy address
  */
#define PHY_ADDRESS							0x0001
/*
  * Phy registers unique to the KS8993.
  */
#define PHY_TX_CONTROL						0x3f
/*
  * ID register values to identify the Phy.
  * PHY_ID1 is the expected value from PHY_ID1_REG.
  * PHY_ID2 is the expected value from PHY_ID2_REG.
  */
#define PHY_ID1								0x0022
#define PHY_ID2								0x1430
//*
// * 100BaseTx PHY Control Register (8 bit Register 31) bit definitions
// These need changing when I find out where they actually are
#define PHY_MII_ISOLATE						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_MASK						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_FD						0x06
#define PHY_MODE_10_FD						0x02
#define PHY_MODE_DEFAULT					0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_HD						0x04
#define PHY_MODE_10_HD						0x00
// */
#include "generic_phy.h"
/*
  * Default Phy address
  */
#define PHY_ADDRESS							0x0001
/*
  * Phy registers unique to the KS8993.
  */
#define PHY_TX_CONTROL						0x3f
/*
  * ID register values to identify the Phy.
  * PHY_ID1 is the expected value from PHY_ID1_REG.
  * PHY_ID2 is the expected value from PHY_ID2_REG.
  */
#define PHY_ID1								0x0022
#define PHY_ID2								0x1430
//*
// * 100BaseTx PHY Control Register (8 bit Register 31) bit definitions
// These need changing when I find out where they actually are
#define PHY_MII_ISOLATE						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_MASK						0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_FD						0x06
#define PHY_MODE_10_FD						0x02
#define PHY_MODE_DEFAULT					0x0e
#define PHY_MODE_100_HD						0x04
#define PHY_MODE_10_HD						0x00
// */

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We're awfully sorry. Kids, you know. If I find 'em at it again I  promise
I'llspank 'em (and our resident pygmy should please note that I bench press
15 stones, for reps)

 You must be joking, right?
That dont' impress me much! Tattatarara... (cit.)
Achille Pièveloce/che donna porca miseria....

 Speak english!
Have you ever seen the rain?
Achille Pièveloce/instead of

Achille Pièveloce/che donna porca miseria....
Una favola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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 Una favola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ma poi... ma bella!
Achille Pièveloce/aiutamaddibbella

Ma poi... ma bella!
Bella, enorme, simpatica, dev'essere anche alla bòna e dimorto
ciociara :-D
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 ciociara :-D
PERCHE' T'ASSOMIGLIA ALLA TATA, LOLLONE!!! :-DD
Achille Pièveloce/l'è uguale

Achille Pičveloce/l'č uguale
Uguale uguale no.. ma anche la Tata l'era dimoRto pipabile :-D
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 Uguale uguale no.. ma anche la Tata l'era dimoRto pipabile :-D
Si, dimòrto anche lei... abbestia!
Cmq per me davvero un po' le si assomigliano, in taluni tratti del viso
Achille Pièveloce/e dei capezzoli

Cmq per me davvero un po' le si assomigliano, in taluni tratti del viso
Si forse le labbra..... (ma quali delle 6?) :-P
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 one of the alternative languages used in England
Ok, ok, here's the straight dope: it's obviously greek. αντα ν, that is μ :
one millionth of a meter.
 

 one of the alternative languages used in England
Boia dč!
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Acida

 Boia dč!
A proposito, scusate eh, ma quali sono gli altri lignuaggi alternativi 
usati in inghilterra oltre l'ingelse???
What alternative languages used in Englad, first english and...????
Vado a letto.
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Acida argh!!! Boh, io l'inglese un lo so
siam tutti cittadini del mondo
fanculo al berluska!!!!