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Titolo: [OT] Sentite di cosa ciancia quell'italiano di Rocco Buttiglione

Sentite l'ultima: Rocco Buttiglione sarebbe stato cacciato dalla UE da un
pedofilo.
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www.repubblica.it
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Buttiglione: "Io, cacciato dal pedofilo Cohn-Bendit"
BARI - "La mia vicenda di commissario europeo è una vergogna per la sinistra
europea e italiana". Parole del ministro alle Politiche comunitarie, Rocco
Buttiglione. , "Un pedofilo caccia dalla Commissione europea un cristiano",
rincara l'esponente dell'Udc rispondendo a domande del pubblico in un
convegno a Bari sulle radici cristiane della nuova Europa. A chi si
riferisce? "A Daniel Cohn-Bendit - risponde il ministro centrista,
interpellato più tardi al telefono - Perché non è noto? Allora, dirò che, in
un libro di memorie, Cohn-Bendit racconta le sue prime esperienze come
maestro in una scuola infantile alternativa. Esperienze di cui si vanta e di
cui fa parte un approccio pedofilo ai suoi allievi".
"A differenza di lui e di altri della sinistra - prosegue Buttiglione - io
non dico falsità, ma parlo di cose documentate. Pensavo che questa fosse
nota. Ma vuol dire che nulla è più ignoto di ciò che è pubblicato".
"Io penso che Buttiglione debba dormire un po' di più e starsene un po'
tranquillo, e spero che nel 2005 trovi il tempo per farlo". Così replica a
Buttiglione Daniel Cohn-Bendit, presidente del gruppo degli europarlamentari
Verdi. "Il giorno prima della sua audizione nella commissione Libertà del
Parlamento Ue - racconta - Buttiglione venne a trovarmi nel mio ufficio; è
stato molto aperto e cordiale ed insieme abbiamo discusso di svariati temi e
ci siamo confrontati su diversi punti di vista; ma all'audizione io non sono
andato perché non faccio parte di quella commissione, per cui non capisco
che cosa c'entri io".
Questo convegno deve essere stato ben pubblicizzato perché su
www.montag.it/pubblicodimerda
 ho trovato il blog di un tale, barese anche
lui, che afferma quanto segue:
"roots bloody roots. oggi mi arriva una lettera dal dipartimento delle
politiche comunitarie della presidenza del consiglio dei ministri. carta
plastificata pesantissima, bicromatica bianco-azzurra. è indirizzata "ai
sig.ri capi famiglia [sic] del comune di Bari". in effetti io sono il capo
famiglia di me stesso, quindi apro. "sono lieto di invitare la s.v. al
convegno «la nuova europa e le radici cristiane» che si terrà il 15 gennaio
2005 alle ore 10,00 a bari presso bla bla bla, e di ospitarla al buffet
previsto nel corso dei lavori". ovviamente ho anche pensato per un attimo di
andarci, poi mi sono reso conto che sicuramente sarà pieno zeppo di altri
pezzenti come me che ci andranno solo per il buffet - la prospettiva è di
conseguenza quella di un bottino troppo esiguo. lascio perdere.
visto che sfuma il buffet, faccio caso alla firma: on. prof. rocco
buttiglione - "buttiglione" chissà perché tutto maiuscolo.
ora, dico: per me è miracoloso che per dargli il contentino dopo la
trombatura da commissario ue basti una tourné per l'italia in cui costui
possa vaneggiare di radici cristiane. dice: ma è coi nostri soldi! ih,
ecchessarammai!
voglio dire: pensate che posto piacevole sarebbe l'italia se bastasse dare
un piccolo vitalizio a tutti i leghisti (e a gasparri, e a schifani, e a
rutelli, e a caldarola.) per convincerli a mollare la politica e a non
rompere piú le balle. ognuno con la sua bella serie di tristi conferenze con
una manciata di partecipanti attirati da un magro buffet. poi, pensate
quante persone finirebbero a lavorare nell'indotto: luci, microfoni,
catering. magari si riesce persino a far ripartire l'economia.
l'ha scritto delio in un empito di narcisismo alle 7:09 pm"
Da notare che Cohn-Bendit, con una indubbia lezione di stile di cui io
stesso non sarei stato capace, invece di andarsi a pavoneggiare in un
ipotetico convegno dal titolo: "Difesa di Socrate perché gli piacevano i
bambini e a Platone anche eppure ancora non li hanno levati dai corsi di
filosofia destinati agli allievi del Seminario Arcivescovile sotto casa mia"
si è perfino astenuto dallo spedire Rocco Buttiglione a farselo scaraventare
nel culo. Altra classe, sissignore.
Ah, altra cattiveria gratuita da parte mia: quasi quasi sarei anche pronto a
scommettere che la raffinata sensibilità per i temi inerenti la difesa della
vita, le radici cristiane e la battaglia di Lepanto dimostrata in internet
da tanti buttiglionofili potrebbe essere stata turbata anche dal cognome del
personaggio di cui qui si tratta. Sta' a vedere che, oltre a corteggiare i
bambini, il presidente degli europarlamentari verdi ha anche qualche
antenato, in straymel e caffetano, incline al gefillte fish e all'omicidio
rituale...!

 Buttiglione: "Io, cacciato dal pedofilo Cohn-Bendit"
Buttiglione si riferisce a una polemica di qualche tempo fa, basta googlare
un po'. P.es. :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4141240,00.html
l'articolo è del 2001.
Mah, tra i due gaffeur/gaglioffi non saprei chi scegliere. Come si fa a
scrivere cazzate del genere, anche nel '68.
fe...@delenda.net
-- 
Age Actabile Antihippocrate

 rituale...!
Tom mi sai che hai preso un granchio.
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Sixties hero revealed as kindergarten sex author
Leading Green MEP insists erotic descriptions in magazine were pure fantasy,
reports Kate Connolly
Sunday January 28, 2001
The Observer
A respected Green MEP and leading figure of the Sixties protest movement has
admitted to The Observer that he wrote an article claiming he had sexual
contact with very young children.
Daniel Cohn-Bendit, MEP for the French Greens, wrote about how flirtatious
encounters in the early Seventies with children in his care as young as five
had taken on 'erotic characteristics' and soon developed into more intimate
contact from which he did not walk away.
When confronted last week with the article, which appeared in the August 197
6 edition of the racy, now defunct cultural-political magazine das da,
Cohn-Bendit said what he had written was 'unacceptable and unbearable'. He
claimed his descriptions of sexual activity with the children were based on
fantasy. No disclaimer to this effect appears in the article.
The article was a spin-off from a best-selling book, The Big Madness, that
Cohn-Bendit wrote in 1975 about child education. The book drew on his
two-year experience working in a Frankfurt kindergarten with children aged
from two to five. In the article, he wrote: 'My constant flirt with all the
children soon took on erotic characteristics. I could really feel how from
the age of five the small girls had already learnt to make passes at me.
It's hardly believable. Most of the time I was fairly defenceless.'
Later he added: 'It has happened to me several times that a few children
opened the flies of my trousers and started to stroke me. I reacted
differently each time according to the circumstances, but their desire
confronted me with problems. I asked them: "Why don't you play with each
other, why have you chosen me and not other children?" But when they
insisted on it, I then stroked them. For that reason I was accused of
perverted behaviour.'
Speaking by phone from his Frankfurt home, where he lives with his wife and
daughter, Cohn-Bendit said on Friday that the damning paragraphs had been
written as 'verbal provocation'. 'It was meant to illustrate the difficulty
of the educator in bringing up children: how does one accept that children
have a sexuality, and also to recognise the resistance against which
educators have to work. It was written in an autobiographical way and wasn't
scientific - it was a literary exaggeration.'
But he added: 'I admit that what I wrote is unacceptable nowadays. When I
look at those sentences today, I say to myself, "Hey Danni, that's
impossible!" It's quite legitimate that personalities should be forced to
confront their pasts.'
The revelations are expected to cause a storm in the European Parliament,
where Cohn-Bendit led the French Greens to their best showing in June 1999.
Now regarded as a passionate Europhile, and viewed by some as the
pan-European politician, Cohn-Bendit, 55, first came to prominence when as a
flaming red-haired student he led the May 1968 demonstrations in Paris,
earning the nickname 'Danni the Red'.
When he was expelled from France as a result he joined the pacifist German
Green movement, entering mainstream politics in 1971 as Frankfurt's deputy
mayor. He shared a flat in Frankfurt with Germany's current Foreign
Minister, Joschka Fischer, still a close friend who himself has been
embroiled in recent controversy after revelations about his militant past
came to light following publication of photographs showing him beating up a
policeman.
Speaking two weeks ago at the murder trial of a former protester friend,
where he was a character witness, Fischer said Cohn-Bendit had kept him on
the straight and narrow. 'I'm not sure how the young Joschka Fischer would
have developed if it hadn't been for Danni Cohn-Bendit,' he told the court.
In Frankfurt Cohn-Bendit became involved in debates about child education,
and the kinderladen or child shop - an anti-authoritarian kindergarten born
out of the protest movement and financed and run by its members.
In 1972 Cohn-Bendit, who was born in the south of France and has dual
French-German nationality, applied for a position as carer at Frankfurt
University's kinderladen, motivated, he wrote in das da, by a strong
conviction that 'the needs of the children of the left-wing radicals were
always neglected'. He describes his two years working there as a 'fantastic
experience'.
But after starting the job 'full of energy' he met his first feelings of
ambiguity about the role. 'I realised I had the need to be accepted by them
at all costs. I wanted the children to like me and I did everything to make
sure they became dependent on me.'
He told The Observer that the aim of the kinderladen was to allow the
children to be themselves. 'Our idea was to let them realise their
personalities through expression of their needs. Paedophilia was not what
got me going.'
But Cohn-Bendit's former stance on the kinderladen movement opens up many
unanswered questions about the social and sexual mores of the post-war
generation. 'This was a time of very far-reaching educational
experimentation,' said Gerd Koenen, a former Seventies revolutionary and
author of a book about the period, The Red Decade, which is due out in the
spring.
The movement's two main aims were to solve the fixation of children towards
their parents and the establishment of a children's solidarity 'battle
group' to fight imperialism. 'It was normal to find Mao pictures hung on the
walls of the kinderladen,' says Koenen. 'The children were taken out on to
the streets to demonstrate, and in the more radical kinderladen sexual games
became part of their play.
The protest movement was largely motivated by a desire to break free from
the 'contaminated' post-war generation when many Nazis - the parents of the
protesters - had remained unpunished. 'They were attempting to make a total
break with their parents,' says Koenen. 'But in turn many subconsciously
also made the break with their own children.'
The urban guerrilla RAF group, which stemmed from the Baader-Meinhof gang,
were strong supporters of the kinderladen but took its theories to extremes.
Many believed it was necessary to give up their children when they went
underground.
'They saw it as part of the higher purpose of their terrorist activities,'
says Koenen. 'They could then say "I'm autonomous, my children are
autonomous, we're all stronger because of the separation." In a certain way
the children were human guinea-pigs in this social experiment, and today
there's a generation of children who suffered from being abandoned and
unprotected.'
In 1968 Andreas Baader left his baby daughter in Berlin, and his lover and
fellow RAF terrorist Gudrun Ensslin gave up her son Felix to foster parents.
The most dramatic of them all was Ulrike Meinhof, who first sent her twin
daughters Bettina and Regine to an orphans terrorist training camp in
Palestine, and in 1976 committed suicide in prison. Baader and Ensslin
committed suicide in prison a year later.
Cohn-Bendit, who was not linked to the RAF, said the damning paragraphs he
wrote were bound to be misunderstood if they were taken out of context. 'The
desire for change then was so great that sometimes the resulting changes
were far too radical and sometimes contradicted themselves when
anti-authoritarianism was enforced in some kinderladen.'
He says he maintains contact with some of the children who were in his care
in Frankfurt. 'They say the experience was very positive for them. They are
independent and confident people who have done well - one is a film
producer, the other is a well known musician.'
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,430017,00.html

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impediscono, di solito, di identificarmi con pizze, mandolini e padri
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