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Titolo: Veneti antenati degli Sloveni?

Quotes from the Press
Are Veneti Ancestors of Slovenians?
Ladislav Lesar interview, published in SLOVENIJA magazine, with Ivan 
Tomazic, a Slovenian priest living in Vienna and an ardent student of 
the Veneti, who has recently published a second anthology about the 
Veneti, this one entitled The Etruscans and the Veneti.
Official truths no longer hold
"I came to realize that the origins of the Slavs on our territory were 
in any event much older than those promulgated by a history based on 
ideological starting points. Their migrations go far back into 
prehistory. The 6th century arrival of the South Slavs in the Balkans 
was only their last migratory wave, and the widespread belief that the 
Slovenes only arrived in their current territory in the late 6th century 
no longer holds. New findings prove that we Slovenes are an 
autochthonous people and that our ancestors the Veneti were already 
bearers of Central European Culture and history in ancient times. They 
outlasted the Celts and the Romans and still today form part of European 
culture and history within a smaller territory that is a genuine natural 
pearl."
" The fact is that while peoples such as Romans and Celts invaded and 
left our territory, the on-going presence of the Veneti is solidly 
documented, and the theory that we only arrived here in the 6th century 
from behind the Carpathians has no historical basis. There is no 
evidence of this from serious chroniclers."
"On the whole, I can say that our theory is holding out at an 
above-average level among the general Slovenian public. Many new 
colaborators and advocates of the theory have appeared. I was pleased 
that our latest book was presented in such a splendid manner at the 
headquarters of Smelt, an important Slovenian company, where the first 
life-size statue of the Veneti horse stands. It is the work of the 
internationally renowned sculptor Oskar Kogoj, who placed exactly the 
same horse in front of the United Nations offices in Geneva to tell the 
whole world the story of Slovenian culture and the history of our 
ancestors, the Veneti. Another such bronze horse is intended for 
Jerusalem to tell this three-thousand-year-old city the story of the 
Veneti who three thousand years ago spread across Europe as bearers of 
the urn burial culture."
The book that helped Slovenia gain independence
"I will tell something else. Many will probably remember the 
presentation of our first book in the packed hall of the Union Hotel on 
June 15, 1989. That was not just an ordinary presentation: it was an 
event in Slovenian history. In the restless years prior to independence, 
the Slovenian nation looked hopefully and expectantly toward the coming 
light of freedom and independence. The appearance of a challenging new 
book about the origin of the Slovenians that described the true roots of 
the Slovenian nation, its original identity, and the virtues of its 
culture and history triggered a wave of approval and enthusiasm in the 
crowd that quickly spread throughout Slovenia. This is proven by the 
great success of the book, which was soon sold out."
"Six years have since passed. Step by step, the Slovenian nation won 
independence, international recognition, and respect in the political, 
cultural, and economic spheres in Europe and the rest of the world. And 
I am firmly convinced that we cannot overlook just how much the new 
self-confidence of the Slovenians, spurred by the Veneti message, has 
helped achieve this success, after they suddenly felt themselves an 
autochthonous nation living on their own land, independent of our 
so-called southern brothers."
"As historical fact, let me just cite Borut Prah, an influential 
Slovenian-American, who told me, 'Your work at that time was of extreme 
importance for the recognition of Slovenia as an independent country. In 
America we needed genuine arguments for secession from Yugoslavia. 
Information regarding the Veneti theory was of considerable significance 
and very useful in my contacts with Washington diplomats especially in 
discussing the recognition of Slovenia in 1991. I must say that the 
criticism you mention is not particularly important as it offers no 
valid counter arguments."'
The solution to the Etruscan mystery lies in the Slovenian language
"The Veneti language, and with it our ancestors, must be understood in 
the context of Indo-European development. This was the greatest 
convulsion in European prehistory from which new nations and languages 
emerged. However, these languages were based on already-existing 
foundations or substrata. Most probably, there was a form of pre-Slavic 
language used across a large part of Europe. New languages were formed 
on this foundation, and the oldest of these have the largest number of 
original Slovenian elements. The Slovenian language is thus the direct 
continuation of the Veneti language. Indisputable proof of this exists 
in the ancient geographic names found in Veneti texts. Two years ago, 
there was a major Etruscan exhibition in Berlin. During this event, the 
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung published a long article in which the 
hope was expressed that science would soon unravel the riddle of the 
Etruscan language. All attempts so far have been in vain because the 
solution of the riddle lies only in the Slovene language. After the 
publication of The Etruscans and the Veneti, there can no longer be any 
no doubt about it."

 Ladislav Lesar interview, published in SLOVENIJA magazine, with Ivan
MEGA CUT
Anche Adamo ed Eva gā avų un ruolo .............
semo tutti PARENTI!
Jole

non c'è provincia
non c'è regione
siete
sotto
il c@@@o del leone
altri tempi la curva sud in serie A
snorkel
azz...ora vedo che è un X-post...miiihhh che figuraaa !!

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ea Jole triestina sposada col trevisan?
--
Elena
 "Silently she walks..."

 Official truths no longer hold
Insomma, un ricercatore sloveno  ha scritto un libro I Veneti ( cioč gli
Sloveni) alla base dell'Europa. attenzione: gli sloveni, non altri Slavi
come i Croati o i Serbi, per non parlare dei Cechi, gli Slovacchi, i Russsi,
etc...!
Quindi traiamone le conseguenze: siamo tutti, dalla Spagna alla Russia
discendenti degli Sloveni, tutta l'Europa altro non č che una Grande
Slovenia.
Non ho letto il libro, ma ne ho letto una recensione universitaria che la
trova tirata per i capelli.
-- 
Elisabetta Marcovich

 Slovenia.
questa č una tua interpetazione, da quello che leggevo ieri sul web le 
cose dette non sono queste.

 altri tempi la curva sud in serie A
Ma va se diseva ancora 20 anni fa co el venesia gera in c2!
-- 
Bye
"nella vita è tutta questione di culo: o ce l'hai o te lo fanno!"(.cit)
Il Serenissimo Marco
Venezia


mi, par mi, eo diseva anca ea reyer....ehhh bei tempi andati....


E no! Tanto mi che mio marì semo discendenti da 7 generazioni de persone de
Trieste .....(caso pitosto raro)
Jole

 Trieste .....(caso pitosto raro)
e cioč:
1/4 pugliese
1/4 greci o serbi
1/4 friulani
1/4 veneziani
il mosaico del triestino docg

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E te se sbagli ... te se ga dimenticado dei
austriaci, dei francesi (che iera anche qua in friul)...
I pugliesi centra 'ssai poco .... i xč rivai tardetto ...
No te son tanto al corrente....
Questo sembra el tuo albero genealogico.
Cmq mi no go de dimostrarghe gnente a nissun
specie ai ignoranti come ti...
Jole

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: E no! Tanto mi che mio marě semo discendenti da 7 generazioni de persone
de
: Trieste .....(caso pitosto raro)
scusime!;-) Te gavevo scambiada par una che conosevo nel 2001 che stava a
Treviso...
gero iscrita a 'na ml de Triestemia tempo fa!
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 Jole
da una razzista come te non accetto nulla

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Ma te sa quanto che me ne frega??
Jole


Ma va!!!        No te gà miga de scusarte ...  no saria miga
un'offesa se mio marì fussi de Treviso!!!!
Ciao!  Jole

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secondo me ce l'hai con noi perchč tu sei l'unico a non avere nemmeno una 
goccia di sangue slavo.... 

 mi, par mi, eo diseva anca ea reyer....ehhh bei tempi andati....
ricordi ? ...gianolla , praja , radovanovic (allen gli anni precedenti) ,
barbiero, guerra , .....