Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.italiano
Titolo: One cal-ZONE mozzarell and pro-SHOOT, please!  (xpost)

Dal NY Times 
You Say Prosciutto, I Say Pro-SHOOT, and Purists Cringe
By STACY ALBIN
Published: September 20, 2004
Ann Gustafson can discuss food - especially Italian food. She spent many
days in the Bronx with her Sicilian grandmother, Sebastiana Ceraolo,
learning how to cook with mozzarella. Only Mrs. Gustafson did not call it
"mozzarella.'' She said "mozzarell.''
Wrong?
Not to many New Yorkers or New Jerseyans. (Doesn't Tony Soprano drop his
final vowels?) Not to some vendors at the annual Feast of San Gennaro in
Little Italy this week. But it makes Italian teachers, the purists who love
the language just as Dante wrote it, wince.
 Advertisement
 
 
They suffer prosciutto (pro-SHOOT-toe) becoming pro-SHOOT, calzone
(cal-TSO-nay) becoming cal-ZONE and pasta e fagioli (PAH-stah eh
faj-YOH-lee) becoming pasta fasul (fa-ZOOL). 
[...]
In fact, in some parts of Italy, the dropping of final vowels is common.
Restaurantgoers and food shoppers in the United States ended up imitating
southern and northern dialects, where speakers often do not speak their
endings, Professor Albertini said.
Liliana Dussi, a retired New York district director for the Berlitz
language schools, said many first- and second-generation Italians whose
ancestors immigrated to the United States before World War I were
informally taught Italian expressions and the names of food, some of which
has ended up part of everyday language in New York, New Jersey and
Connecticut. 
And Gregory Pell, an assistant professor at Hofstra University who teaches
Italian, said that because of the way double consonants were spoken, such
as the double "t" in manicotti, Americans might not clearly hear the last
"ee" sound. When New Yorkers drop their endings, he said, "it's become a
new word and its own version." 
[...]
L'articolo completo su
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/20/nyregion/20italian.html
(registrazione gratuita).
X'Posted to: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese,it.cultura.linguistica.italiano

 new word and its own version."
I skeeve this bastardized pronunciation.

 I skeeve this bastardized pronunciation.
Yep, I eveet it as well! 
X'Posted to: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese,it.cultura.linguistica.italiano

 (registrazione gratuita).
O anche senza registrazione, direttamente da
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/20/nyregion/20italian.html?ex=1253419200&en=b02770c784fae2a2&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland
Se ne parla, inoltre, su
http://slowtalk.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/534601885/m/53710917611/p/1
X'Posted to: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese,it.cultura.linguistica.italiano

 Yep, I eveet it as well!
Eveet? That's one I don't know. 

 faj-YOH-lee) becoming pasta fasul (fa-ZOOL). 
When the stars make you drool
Joost-a like pasta fazool
That's amore
When you dance down the street
With a cloud at your feet
You're in love
When you walk down in a dream
But you know you're not dreaming
Signore
Scuzza me, but you see, back in old Napoli
That's amore

 Eveet? That's one I don't know.
I just made up that one, dropping the final vowel in "evito"! :-D
X'Posted to: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese,it.cultura.linguistica.italiano

 Joost-a like pasta fazool
Su Google si trovano tante ricette per fare la pasta fazool. :)
Limitando la ricerca ai soli siti in lingua inglese, viene fuori un "pasta
fazool" ogni due "pasta e fagioli"!

 Su Google si trovano tante ricette per fare la pasta fazool. :)
E la "pasta e fasòl" ? :-)
E... mme piáciono 'e maccaròn
guí, guí, guí, guí
e mme piace pasta e fasòl
guí, guí, guí, guí
La fatica a me non mi sòna
guí, guí, guí, guí
Viva Napoli e Parí'
guí, guí, guí, guí!
(Guarino-Gambardella, 1902)

 I just made up that one, dropping the final vowel in "evito"! :-D
Just like "vaffancool"? ;-P
-- 
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose
(Janis Joplin)
05/10/2005 13.39.48

 I just made up that one, dropping the final vowel in "evito"! :-D
Io gią sapeva acconosciuta 'na certa Evita, fusse 'na sorore de 'sto evito?
Ciao,
Franco peronista
-- 
questo articolo e` stato inviato via web dal servizio gratuito 
http://www.newsland.it/news
 segnala gli abusi ad 
ab...@newsland.it

 Just like "vaffancool"? ;-P
That's 'vaffangool'.