Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.italiano
Titolo: Esque vos pote comprender iste texto?

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Iste message es scribite in un lingua auxiliar appellate 'interlingua'. Io
excusa si il es un violation del regulas (fundatio?) del gruppo scriber in
interlingua (o altere linguas non-italiano) hic.
Le ration que io lo face, es que nos qui es parlatores de interlingua,
sempre fanfarona que (inter altere) le italianos pote comprender interlingua
sin studies previe. E io es curiose si isto es ver in practico. Dunque io
serea grate si (alcuno de) vos voleva responder a mi message e lassa me
saper quanto de illo vos pote comprender.
Anque, io ha audite que in partes de Italia on parla dialectos que es plus
proxime a interlingua que le italiano 'standard'. (Forsan al nord?) Esque
isto es ver, e in tal caso, que es le nomines de iste dialectos (o ubi esque
on los parla)?
Gratias in advantia. :-)
I hope some of you understand some of the above. If you don't I apologise.
:-)
Lars

Laurentio wrote:
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An italian speaker can understand every word of the above text

 sin studies previe. E io es curiose si isto es ver in practico. 
Isto es ver! :)
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 sempre fanfarona que (inter altere) le italianos pote comprender interlingua
         ^^^^^^^^^
And I find this quite amusing !
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Giocherellone!
GraZia 

 Sě! Conosco tanta gente che *"fanfarona" di svariate faccende! ;-)))
Hmm... proque trova vos isto tanto amusante? :-)
In interlingua 'fanfaronar' significa 'to brag' in anglese. Esque il ha un
altere connotation in italiano?
Del resto, que significa "di svariate faccende" in anglese? E "a naso"?
Multe gratias pro omne vostre responsas. :-)
Lars

 Del resto, que significa "di svariate faccende" in anglese? E "a naso"?
The original poster may reply better what he meant. "di svariate 
faccende" means "about different businesses". "a naso" is an idiomatic 
form (a guess made with one's nose ?).
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 Gratias in advantia. :-)
  Grazie in anticipo
To answer your question, your IL text resembles me an hybrid between 
latin, italian and spanish with some french italianized words 
interspersed, and some grammar simplifications. It might slightly 
resemble venetian dialects, but not particularly.
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 iste signification? :)
Oops! I absent-mindedly wrote "poster", but what I actually meant is
"charter". :)

 And I find this quite amusing !
Sě! Conosco tanta gente che *"fanfarona" di svariate faccende! ;-)))

frase?
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 to indicate somebody who boasts excessively to be good, brave and bold
And sometimes people laugh at his or her "fanfaronate"... :)

 resemble venetian dialects, but not particularly.
Gratias, Giovanni, pro un multo interessante responsa.
Ma lo que tu scribe al fin de tu message me face pensar, si tu anque haberea
comprendite mi messages, si tu non habeva habite un certe cognoscentia a
latino e le altere linguas que tu mentiona.
Similemente, forsan le alteres qui ha respondite in le filo (thread) anque
ha un particularmente alte cognoscentia de linguas estranier que pote
adjutar les a comprender interlingua? (Viste que illes se abbona a un gruppo
de novas concernente linguistica.) :-)
Dunque io es curiose, si anque italianos qui solmente parlar italiano (e
anglese) anque comprenderea mi messages?
Del resto, tu ha ration que ia es in effecto un typo de 'hybrid' inter le
linguas que tu mentiona, e alcun alteres. :-)
Lars

 "charter". :)
Ah, alora nos es de accordo. :-)
Lars

 form (a guess made with one's nose ?).
Thanks. I thought it might be something like that.
Lars

adjutar les a comprender interlingua?
Ti assicuro che capirebbe anche un ragazzino di dieci anni. Quando ero
bambino, leggevo storie di Paperino ambientate nel medioevo, e i
personaggi parlavano piu' o meno cosi' :)
Be sure, a ten years old little boy could easily understand (your
messages). When I was a child, I read Donald Duck's tales, and the
characters did speak nearly so... :)
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sganciato e restituitoci dai tuoi aeroplani
io vengo a restituirti un po' del tuo terrore
del tuo disordine, del tuo rumore

 de novas concernente linguistica.) :-)
 
Also I do not see a strong french influence in IL, I quoted french 
because you used "appellare", which is an italian verb, but rarely used, 
and looks a francesism to me. We use "chiamare" instead, but any italian 
will recognise the word, last but not least why any schoolkid is used to 
the "appello" (calling the roll of present and absent). Or perhaps also 
this curious "esque" written as a single word.
Almost any words in your text appear either a valid italian word (for 
instance "abbona" ... I'm surprised that IL uses such word whose root is 
rarely used in other language in favour of "subscribe", "sottoscrivere" 
in italian) or a distorted italian word (sort of a "mockup spanish"). 
In the message I'm replying to the most unusual word is "novas" for 
"news" ... the English news correspond to italian "notizie" ... but 
nobody would use that for a newsgroup, "notizie" makes one think of 
newspaper or TV news ... in this respect in semi-technical contexts 
italian tend to use the english word unchanged, or cast into an italian 
form, e.g. "sottoscrivere a un newsgroup").
On the other hand the typical italian will read spanish, catalan, 
portuguese or rumantsch without difficulty, and the same can be said of 
french. Reading, not understanding the spoken language. In fact these 
are all languages I have never studied. IL does not look much different 
from those, and the lexicon looks maybe more alike to italian.
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 "news" ... the English news correspond to italian "notizie"
anche "nuove" ("neassuna nuova, buona nuova") e "novelle": ma č un uso
arcaico.
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 characters did speak nearly so... :)
Interesting. :)

"Giovanni Drogo" <dr...@rn.bastiani.ta.invalid> skrev i en meddelelse
news:Pine.LNX.4.61.06...@cbfrvqba.ynzoengr.vans.vg...
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Thanks for the reply. The verb 'subscriber' also exists in ia and with the
same meaning as the English verb, but according to the dictionaries 'abonar
se' is used for subscriptions to newspapers.
The principle behind the vocabulary of interlingua is that if a word exists
in three of the seven 'major' European languages (Italian,
Spanish/Portugese, French, English, German and Russian) it is also part of
interlingua. I suppose three of these languages use a form equivalent to
'abonar se' about newspaper subscriptions.
Or maybe it's a mistake. :)
Lars

Interesting. :)
Just the stories in which Donald, Uncle Scrooge etc played as
middle-age knights or peasants. Medieval italian has something that
strictly resembles your Interlingua... )
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I don't think so. :)
http://www.logosdictionary.org/pls/dictionary/new_dictionary.gdic.st?phrase_code=5738406
Italian:  abbonarsi        
Spanish:  abonarse 
French:  s'abonner 
German   abonnieren  

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The text can be completly understood without any knowledge of interlingua.
Maybe with the only exception of the word "fanfarona", which makes us think
that you are quite skeptical about that claim, but I suppose it's the
contrary.
I really would like to know if speakers of other languages have the same
ease to understand it.

 German   abonnieren
Thanks for the link. Very cool dictionary, also for finding new interlingua
words. :)
Lars

 strictly resembles your Interlingua... )
Okay. I thought "ambientate nel medioevo" might mean something like that. :)
Lars

 ease to understand it.
I'll try to test that out and report back to you. :)
Lars

 No problem at all to read it... 
Even if you only knew French?


Povero me! Avevo tradotto, in una prima lettura,
"est-ce que vos potes comprennent ce texte".
Mah.
Jacques