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Titolo: Il mio dubbio e' questo: CONCORDE sabotato !!

Alcuni giorni fa , hanno affermato di trovare delle fratture sulla struttura
del concorde:
Inoltre la manutenzione di questo veicolo e' Costosissima ed affidata a
pochi Eletti, c'e' quasi una lobby segreta sommersa , tipo cartello.
Il dubbio e' il seguente :
Al motore e' stato fatto qualche scherzettino di cattivo gusto, per far
andare giu' l' aereo.
Il pilota ha evitato sicuramente che cadesse sul Quartiere, e guardate dove
e' caduto:
Numero 72, proprio come il Buon Nostradamus ha detto :
RE DEL TERRORE DAL CIELO VERRA'.  C. X Q. 72 mese di Luglio.
A parte questa strana coincidenza, ho dei dubbi sul motore,
INDAGARE GRAZIE !
Naturalmente la mia e' solo , e rimane una ipotesi personale, strettamente,
non desidero essere denunciato !

Ho trovato questo:
France Jet Crash Kills at Least 113
The uneducated will connect:
72-room  Relais Bleus hotel. to X-72
Terror from the sky-Air France Concorde Plane Crash
July 2000 to July-1999
 At least 113 people were killed
By Good Luck- Firefighters poured streams of water on the blackened
wreckage
Resusite-Thoese who were found alive and recieved CPR.
and the King of Angolmois-Peter Deilmann Shipping Co., a German tour
group.
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Asia countries.
  Archangel Michael
                  By Angela Doland
                  Associated Press Writer
                  Tuesday, July 25, 2000; 2:38 p.m. EDT
                  GONESSE, France  An Air France Concorde en route to
New York  crashed outside Paris shortly after takeoff Tuesday, slamming
into a hotel  and a restaurant. At least 113 people were killed when the
charter flight of German tourists went down in the first-ever crash of
the supersonic jet.
                  Police said all 100 passengers and nine crew members
on board were killed, and the Interior Ministry said four others died at
the 72-room  Relais Bleus hotel. At least a dozen others were injured at
the hotel. They  were in good condition, Prime Minister Lionel Jospin
said.
                  The hotel was in flames after the crash, and sections
had been reduced to rubble and twisted metal. Firefighters poured
streams of water on the blackened wreckage, which had broken up into
scattered, smoking chunks. The remains of the Concorde were barely
recognizable as an  airplane fuselage.
                  There was no immediate word on what might have caused
the crash of the jet, which had been in service since 1980 and had just
had a mechnical
  checkup July 21. In the more than 30 years that Concorde jets have
flown, none had gone down.
  All passengers aboard Flight AF4590 were German, Air France said. The
plane had been chartered by Peter Deilmann Shipping Co., a German tour
group, and the passengers were on their way to New York to join a
cruise ship.
             The plane crashed at 4:44 p.m. in an area of farmland
crisscrossed by highways and the small town of Gonesse, about nine miles
northeast of  Paris. It went down soon after takeoff from Charles de
Gaulle airport.
      Witnesses said the supersonic aircraft was not able to gain
sufficient  altitude before it crashed. Some witnesses said the engine
was on fire and  that a huge cloud of black smoke went up in the air.
 Samir Hossein, 15, a student in Gonesse, was playing tennis with
friends when they saw the plane go by with an engine on fire.
         "We saw it lose altitude. It chopped off those trees and headed
to the ground," Hossein told The Associated Press. "The pilot tried to
bank but  the plane rolled over and smacked into the hotel nose first
and turned  over.
                  "We saw flames shoot up 40 meters (yards) and there
was a huge boom,"  he said. "The pilot tried to yank it up, but it was
too late."
      Frederic Savery, 21, was driving along a highway on the way home
when  he saw the plane go down.
                  "I saw the plane, it passed 30 meters above us, the
whole back end of the  plane was on fire," Savery told the AP. "We saw
it start to turn, but we  didn't hear a noise when it crashed. All of a
sudden, everything was  black."
                  Clouds of dark smoke could be seen for miles around.
Police blocked off  all roads leading to the scene of the crash, backing
up traffic on rural  roads in the farm fields near the airport. Dozens
of fire trucks and ambulances rushed to the scene.
                  Sid Hare, a Federal Express pilot who was at a hotel
several miles from the airport, said the plane went down in a ball of
fire. He said he could  "see smoke trailing" from one of the plane's two
left engines before the   crash.
   "It started rolling over and backsliding down to the ground. At that
point it  was probably two miles from me," he told CNN. "It was a
sickening sight,  just a huge fireball."
                  Jospin and French Transport Minister Jean-Claude
Gayssot visited the  scene of the crash. "It's a terrible moment,"
Gayssot said.
                  In Washington, President Clinton said he "wanted to
extend the deepest  condolences of the American people to the families
of those who are lost."
  In Berlin, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder canceled his evening
appointments to stay on top of developments.
                  An official at Peter Deilmann Shipping in the German
city of Neustadt said  the passengers - 97 adults and three young people
under age  from various German states. They met in Paris to fly together
for the cruise  aboard the MS Deutschland, which is anchored in New York
City.
   The German Foreign Ministry has set up crisis management centers in
both Berlin and Paris, the ministry said. The ministry said more
information  would have to wait until the passengers names' were
confirmed with passenger lists.
                  On Monday, British Airways said it had found cracks in
the wings of some of its supersonic Concorde aircraft, but said there
was no danger to  passengers. After the crash Tuesday, the British
airline canceled its two Monday night Concorde flights between London
and New York.
                  "We have complete confidence in our Concorde aircraft
and our engineering," the airline said in a press release.
"Nevertheless, in these  circumstances - and while information is still
coming in - we have taken  the unprecedented step of canceling tonight's
flights."
                  The French air regulator, the DGAC, sent investigators
to the crash site.
 But any decision to ground Air France's other five Concordes was not
expected until the inquiry into the cause of the crash had taken place.
   The Concorde, which crosses the Atlantic at 1,350 mph, has been
considered among the world's safest planes. Its only major scare came in
1979, when a bad landing blew out a plane's tires. The incident led to a
design modification.
                  On Jan. 30 of this year, a Concorde aircraft made an
emergency landing at London's Heathrow Airport - the second such landing
within a 24-hour  period by one of the supersonic jets. A cockpit alarm
had sounded, warning of a fire in the rear cargo hold, but engineers
found no problem.
   The previous day, one of four engines had shut down on a Concorde as
it approached Heathrow.
                  The plane is popular with celebrities, world-class
athletes and the rich. It  flies above turbulence at nearly 60,000 feet,
crossing the Atlantic in about 3½ hours, less than half that of regular
jetliners.
   The first Concorde plane flew in 1969. Now, 13 of the needle-nosed
supersonic jets are operated by Air France and British Airways. A
roundtrip Paris-New York ticket costs $9,000, roughly 25 percent more
than regular first class. A London-New York roundtrip runs $9,850.
                  Air France officials have said in the past that their
current fleet is fit to fly  safely until 2007.
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Allora cambiano i pezzi con degli Usati !!! Ma in che mano e' finita la Vita
delle Persone !!!!
Altro che squadra di calcio francese.

Il fatto più ovvio è che qualsiasi aereo vecchio di 20 anni (e oltre)
possiede crepe e fratture sulle ali o sulla fusoliera (individuabili
all'interno grazie agli infrarossi, agli infrasuoni  o ai raggi x),
figuriamoci quelli che hanno dovuto sopprotare prestazioni ipersoniche...
Ma la disgraziata concezione progettistica del Concorde sono proprio i suoi
motori "accoppiati", cioè aderenti l'uno all'altro sotto ogni ala (e ha
avuto la sua parte nell'incidente).
Così, anche se uno non dovesse essere in avaria già in partenza, un semplice
paio di uccellini che ne venissero risucchiati dentro, farebbero in modo non
solo di avariare lo stesso, ma pure l'altro accanto.
Per cui, pure se su un Airbus, un Jumbo o un Super 80 c'è un motore in
fiamme, queste non si estenderebbero agli altri motori...
Sfiga ha voluto, poi, che fosse capitato l'incendio proprio a corsa di
decollo conlcusa:
=impossibilità di fermarsi a terra perchè già in alto per frenare coi
carrelli.
+impossibilità di estinguere le fiamme con una picchiata controllata a
motore spento perchè troppo in basso
+impossibilità di alzarsi oltre contando sulla potenza dei motori perchè
l'incendio dell'uno surriscalda l'altro e quindi un'intera coppia su 4
motori
+conseguente sbilanciamento dell'aereo da un lato per colpa della mancata
spinta dall'altro
+impossibilità di eseguire la virata di ritorno correttamente livellati e
conseguente aumento della possibilità di stallo
+aumento della possibilità di stallo in virata per colpa della conformazione
alare ("a delta") alle basse quote e/o velocità di sostentamento
+rifornimento carburante appena ultimato
=esplosione sicura in aria o a contatto col suolo.
Se qualcuno voleva sabotare l'Air France penso che non ne avrebbe avuto
bisogno: anche i motori del Concorde erano invecchiati e nemmeno il Barone
Rosso sarebbe vissuto più di tanto in queste condizioni.

 Altro che squadra di calcio francese.
Pregasi leggere Punto Critico. Di Michael Chrichton.
A rigor di logica tutti i pezzi di un aereo sono usati perche' il collaudo non
e' nulla di diverso. E' comunque prassi accettata l'uso di ricambi non nuovi di
pacco perche', come si sa, costano appena appena l'ira di dio ed i materiali
usati nell'industria aerospaziale non e' che te li regalino con i punti delle
figurine.
Insomma, non e' quello il male degli aerei. Se male esiste.

 pochi Eletti, c'e' quasi una lobby segreta sommersa , tipo cartello.
Nostradaus a parte (che gia' mi fa sorridere quanto la sua mente pur geniale
potesse concepire il Concorde), la manutenzione Costosissima e da societa'
paramassonica serve a prevenire uno dei problemi principali dell'industria
aeronautica ovvero i ricambi non originali. Se interessano maggiori dettagli mi
dilunghero' sul QUANTO e' importante che la manutenzione di un oggettino che
vola tutti i giorni e che e' sottoposto allo stress che nessuna altra macchina
vive su questo pianeta sia effettuata correttissamamente secondo le politiche
dettate dal costruttore. Anche in assenza di cio', cmq, si dovrebbe capire che
non si puo' rischiare di montare su un aereo del genere un pezzo che non
risponda nel modo piu' assoluto alle specifiche richieste perche' non e' il
pezzo che ci vuole. Eppur puo' succedere perche' imitato particolarmente bene.
Almeno cosi' dicono le mie fonti-

 RE DEL TERRORE DAL CIELO VERRA'.  C. X Q. 72 mese di Luglio.
Nostradamus lo ha scritto qualche centinaio di anni fa.
Ma tu lo hai detto solo dopo che il concorde č caduto, o sbaglio?
Perchč non lo hai reso pubblico qui sul NG le altre tre volte in cui io ho
chiesto (addirittura espressamente a te) quale fosse l'interpretazione del
re terrore dopo il flop della previsione della fine del  mondo?
saluti,
Peltio