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Titolo: New record ...

Se mai puo interessare qualcuno :)
http://www.wr350.com/
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Luca
http://www.yeapa.com

 
http://www.wr350.com/
ognuno di noi e' libero di fare quello che vuole: anche se la cosa e'
discutibile, in quanto se per un qualsiasi motivo questi 2 idioti rimarranno
vivi ma invalidi, e' lo stato sociale che (giustamente) si occuperà di loro
(e tutti noi pagheremo le cure e la loro assistenza) fino all'ultimo dei
loro
giorni.
Comunque ognuno di noi puo' fare e/o dire quello che vuole.
Loro possono andare sotto a 350 mt.
Anch'io, credo, di avere diritti analoghi, no?
Esercito la mia libertà semplicemente scrivendo che quei 2 sono
delle teste di cazzo.
CoC

No Comment :)
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Luca
http://www.yeapa.com
"CoC" <ELIMINAMI_coc@TOGLIMI_libero.it> wrote in message
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 No Comment :)
Tu scrivi "no comment" e ridi. Sei forse svizzero?
Dopo lo scandalo watergate  una pubblicità elettorale
USA (dei democratici) piazzava una foto di Nixon e ci
scriveva sotto "Voi comprereste un'auto usata da questo uomo" ?
Io scrivo: voi andreste a -350 mt con un supporto tecnico
offerto da:
http://www.wr350.com/the_team/SABINA.htm
http://www.wr350.com/the_team/Mike.htm
e supportati da questo "mago" dei media che
ha una tv insulsa (adventure tv) e che spera
di aumentare l'audience da 120 a 145 spettatori
facendo rischiare la pelle a quei 2 lobotomizzati?
http://www.wr350.com/the_team/SEBASTIAN.htm
Certo, e' un avvenimento altamente "sientifico".
I 2 poverini lobotomizzati, siccome dovranno fare
95 deco, di cui l'ultima di ben 6 ore a 6 mt, si
annoieranno ... poveri cuccioli ... ed allora a che cosa
hanno pensato quei dementi dello staff  "sientifico"?
Ovvio!
Stanno studiando una bella tv-subaquea per
passare il tempo (chissa' se guarderanno Dallas ...)
http://www.wr350.com/science/default.htm
La verità? E' gente che non ha voglia di fare una
sega nella vita (giustamente!), si diverte in giro
per il mondo tra un'immersione e l'altra (giustamente!)
e spera di incassare un bel po' di soldini, esattamente
un minimo di 15.000$ per ogni sponsor, ed ovviamente
un circo che costa 15.000$ a biglietto deve offrire un
minimo di spettacolo, no? Leoni? Tigri? noooo ... -350 mt
http://www.wr350.com/sponsors/default.htm
CoC

Si sono svizzero, xk hai qualcosa contro gli svizzeri :)
ho scritto no comment e ho sorriso, x 2 ragioni, una hai risposto ad un
velocita folle :) e questo mi ha fatto sorridere, e l altra semplicemente,
be c e gente pazza, ma questo tipo di gente e sempre esistita e esistera
sempre, non si ci puo fare nulla, mi dispiace :(
ma da una parte e anche grazie un po a questa gente un po pazza-folle se si
ha certe cose che oggi come oggi si ha, no ??
su questo, lo svizzero se ne ritorno nel sul formaggio con i buchi e vi da
la buona notte a tutti :)
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Luca
http://www.yeapa.com
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 Si sono svizzero, xk hai qualcosa contro gli svizzeri :)
scherzi? :-) nulla di personale, eh!
a parte il fatto che avete rubato l'oro agli ebrei, che
scrivevate nei negozi "vietato l'accesso ai cani ed
agli italiani", che riciclate tutto il denaro sporco di tutti
i possibili reati del pianeta (droga, mafia, dittatori&tiranni,
prostituzione, etc), che fino a pochi giorni fa la vostra
polizia portava i vostri delinquenti sul nostro
confine e chiedeva loro: "preferisci la galera oppure
sparire in italia?", che avete la uwatec che con
il magico aladino, il primo quello grigio, ha mandato
in iperbarica camionate di sub di mezzo pianeta terra
e guai a protestare peche' gli svizzeri fanno gli orologi
ma non quelli a cucu' (e si offendono se glielo dici)...
a parte questi motivi e pochi altri non ho nulla di personale. :-)
CoC


Hei CoC,
al di là di questi matti che vanno a 350mt.....  io non sono svizzero e te
lo dimostro  in romano...
"ma davero l'aladino ha mannato a panzallaria na marea de sub???  ... noo
dai.... nce posso crede..."
(CHE NOTIZIA!)
.......Scherzi vero? dimmi di si se no mi vendo l'Ultra!
Kcray

 a parte questi motivi e pochi altri non ho nulla di personale. :-)
Pero' hanno i negozietti che vendono "aromi esotici" molto buoni !
lsd

 
http://www.wr350.com/
Se ha intenzione di gestire il record come gestisce le altre immersioni sara
sicuramente interessante seguirne le vicende ...la vedo dura se continua
come questo report da lui redatto...un bel compendio delle cose da non fare!
*************FROM AXEL
following is a report to the dive community for information purpose only +
not a judgement on any system which is up to the individual reader. the text
is free to be printed or rotated or used in its present form with permission
from the author.
The dive 17.07.2002:
Location cape Greco, chapel bay, Cyprus. Solo to -65m/10min. with a spike
to -72m. After doing the -65m/10min. i dumped to -72m to my anchor to attach
a lift bag filled to neutral to ease lifting later. Using an aladin pro pc i
did accordingly the decompression
of -12m/4min, -9m/6min., -6m/10min., -3m/34min. Back in the boat i got out
of my equipment, undressed, had some water to drink, a leak + a cigarette +
everything was fine. After some rest i started pulling the anchor, which is
marked in 6m increments. At 60m line left the pulling became very difficult
to impossible. The depth sounder showed a snap. So i secured the remaining
line to the boat, donning another tank + knive + went back down the line.
At -60m the anchor was entangled in a fishing net + the lift bag fully
inflated. Emptying the lift bag i cut the anchor loose. Refilling the bag to
neutral + ascended. The dive pc being previously wet on the surface showed a
continuous dive profile from the dive b4 but no deco at that time. So i went
up slowly + back into the boat.
Accident occurrence:
Immediately in the boat i lost balance + vision, became very dizzy, sick in
the stomach starting vomiting. Lying down + grapping my oxygen tank i
started breathing o2 but symptoms didn't get better. Then i got hold of my
vhf calling the marine police. Respond + evacuation:
Several attempts on vhf ch16 to get in contact with the marine police with
info that this is a diver distress emergency there was no respond from them.
Then i called Cyprus radio but also no respond. Finally waving an orange
life jacket to get attention from the mass of tourist boats around had the
same no respond attention. At that time my vertigo worsened + i thought to
pass out completely. it took some time + strength as my vision came in+out
to call a friend on my mobile infoing of my diver emergency at chapel bay.
into the conversation the battery of my mobile went dead + the phone
off-line. 10min. later i received a vhf call from the marine police asking
who is calling. I gave them my gps position + info of diver emergency. 5min.
later two boats of the marine police arrived on site. Still very dizzy
loosing vision off + on, breathing o2 i requested immediate helicopter
evacuation to the limassol chamber with request of low altitude flight level
+ oxygen supply as my o2 tk was down. The police confirmed to do so.
Additionally i asked them to call DAN (DIVERS ALERT NETWORK). As i always
carry a diver emergency file with me, which includes all necessary details,
i handed it over to the police. In the file it is mentioned that im allergic
to penicillin. The police replied that they couldn't call DAN from their
mobile + they forwarded the number to shore where the call is going to be
done. They also confirmed that the helicopter is airborne + that there is
oxygen on board. Meanwhile the friend i called on the mobile arrived on
scene via a tourist boat. He immediately called DAN from his mobile phone.
Air temp. was 35c and the police poured cold water on me as on my boat was
no shading. They told me that there is a complication in limassol + they
will evacuate me to the Larnaca chamber. The chopper arrived 20min. into the
call. In order to lift me all boats had to give room + i had to enter the
water which i hardly could do as i felt still very sick. With the assistance
of a police diver i then was airlifted without a problem. On the helicopter
i asked for the oxygen but the police told me they didn't bring any oxygen
with them as they assumed that i was allergic to oxygen. Arriving 5min.
later in a military camp an ambulance was waiting. I tried to leave the
helicopter walking over to the ambulance but i blacked out, lost balance +
collapsed on the concrete floor. Vision was gone again + i only felt many
hands laying me flat lifting me on a stretcher. Pushing me into the
ambulance the slamming doors hit me on the head but it brought me back to
consciousness.
Treatment:
In the car i received oxygen + a needle in my arm. The personnel forgot
their rubber gloves + my blood was running all over the medic. Arriving at
Larnaca hospital a neurological examination with chestx-ray was performed.
The doctors concluded that there is no dcs (decompression sickness) but for
preventative reasons they will put me in the chamber. On the way i had a
leak on the toilet without problems. In the chamber i was dumped without
warning + info immediately to -18m breathing o2. Inside the chamber i was
alone. Communication was spare + sometimes somebody looked thru the window.
After one hour again with no warning i was brought back to surface. The
symptoms where gone + a post examination again concluded by the medics
confirmed no dcs symptoms + symptoms are due to heat + work exhaustion they
said.
Post action:
Leaving Larnaca hospital i went to collect my car, boat + equipment my
friend retrieved from the sea (not the car), cleaned + packed all + made my
way home to limassol. There the limassol chamber contacted me asking of my
situation + discussing the case they defined it as a neurological bent +
said dcs class 1+2 is not existing any more. A conference call was initiated
to DAN EUROPE in Italy and the royal navy hospital -hyperbaric facility in
haslar - UK as same as to a German neurological doctor in Dubai with
hyperbaric medicine. The result they came up with is that a one hour chamber
treatment is definitely not enough but if it is neuro-bents is not yet
assured as it could be also a symptom of inner ear vertigo. If recompressed
in a chamber under that circumstance it would increase the symptoms again.
On the other side if it is neuro bents it is most likely to regain symptoms
again within3-4 days. At present DAN is trying to get the medics from
Larnaca hospital fora report assessment + decide in the afternoon for
further steps. Most likely ineed to get my ear drum punctuated to check if
there is any blood inside + to get ear treatment which could heal in a
couple of days or i have to get back in the chamber for another full
compression treatment by this afternoon. (18.07.2002, 13:11hours, Cyprus)
18.07.2002, 18:00hours, Cyprus
in order to produce a correct repetitive chamber table DAN tried all day to
get hold of the doctor in larnaca without success. in the evening i had the
luck to reach him on the mobile informing him that DAN needs to contact him
to get his table he treated me on. he is from the navy + asked me why all
that which i tried to explain. asking him to call DAN he replied no they
should call him. so i infoed DAN which contacted him. then he called me back
+ asked me if i have any symptoms which i replied i have not. he said that
this means all is ok + nothing will happen to me. we dont need DAN or this
sort of groups as he does this job for 15 years without an incident. the
reason he did only a 1 hour recompression was not to put more nitrogen in my
body as i was diving deep + filled with it. additionally he confirmed that i
do not have any bents or any neurological problems. they dont do treatment
"in case of" but only if there is a case, thats why he thinks a repetitive
compression is not necessary.
checking with DAN the operator confirmed according to the conversation log
that the larnaca doctor gave above info to DAN that i have no symptoms +
dont need further treatment. DAN decided to call me tomorrow + check on me
in what condition i am.
ps: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL INVOLVED PARTIES FOR THEIR GREAT HELP
ESPECIALLY THE CYPRUS AUTHORITIES, SEA EYE DIVE CENTRE IN LARNACA MR.
ANDREAS + GEORGE, UPMOST TO DAN EUROPE WHICH STILL IS CONTINOUSLY BUSY TO
SOLVE MY CASE ON AN INTERNATIONAL LEVEL, THANKS ALSO TO DIVE-IN LIMASSOL
WHICH TOOK GREAT EFFORT TO ESTABLISH PROPER POST TREATMENT AND DR. HORST
KAEFER FOR HIS NEUROLOGICAL MEDICAL INFORMATION!
RGDS
AXEL SCHOELLER
AQUATEC - INNERSPACE MISSIONS + OPERATIONS LTD.
COLUMBIA HOUSE, DODEKANISON ST., P.O.BOX 51624
3507 LIMASSOL / CYPRUS
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 .......Scherzi vero? dimmi di si se no mi vendo l'Ultra!
il VECCHIO aladino!
vai a cercare vecchi messaggi postati anche in questo ng ... chiedi
al dan ... chiedi a gente esperta che conosce bene gli algoritmi
dei vari computer. il vecchio aladino, il primo, era poco
conservativo.
ricordo perfettamente di un gruppo di 12 sub di milano,
di ritorno dalle maldive ... in aereo hanno iniziato ad
avere i primi problemi e sono finiti TUTTI in iperbarica.
credo che il tuo sia a posto.
CoC


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