Newsgroup: it.hobby.scacchi
Titolo: Ma quante immortali!!!

Sono sempre stato convinto che quando si parlava di "Immortale"
ci si riferisse alla famosa partita Anderssen-Kieseritzky, ma leggendo
un buon dizionario scacchistico tedesco (il "Meyers Schachlexicon",
del 1993), ho visto che oltre alla sopracitata e alla "Immortale dello
Zugzwang" (postata in precedenza), ci sono anche:
1. L'immortale del gioco per corrispondenza (detta anche "L'immortale svedese"):
[Event "WT/M/974"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1964.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Sundin, Arvud"]
[Black "Andersson, Erik"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C16"]
[Annotator "various"]
[PlyCount "57"]
[EventDate "1964.??.??"]
{In Chess Life, October 1996, Alex Dunne calls this the "Swedish Immortal
Correspondence Game". It was widely published at the time it was played, e.g.
Schakend Nederland May 1966. It was also featured in the book Freude Am
Fernschach by Werner Heinrich where it was cited as an example of the victory
of spirit over material. Certainly the position before the final move - where
Black has two queens and White has none - cannot have had many parallels
outside the world of chess composition.} 1. d4 {The game began in 1964 and
ended in 1965. Sundin (born Dec 8, 1912) was the tournament winner with 5.5/6.
He was a famous pianist and CC-IM who took part in the 7th CC World
Championship Final, finishing 9th of 17 players. The loser Erik Andersson
(born June 8, 1917) was also Swedish.} 1... e6 2. e4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 Qd7 5.
Bd2 {White prevents the thematic doubling of the c-pawn.} 5... b6 6. f4 {
One of many moves to be tried here, but not objectively dangerous.} 6... Ne7 7.
Qg4 g6 $2 {A serious mistake when the dark-squared B is outside the pawn chain.
} (7... Nf5 8. Nf3 Ba6 $11) 8. Bb5 c6 9. Bd3 Ba6 10. Bxa6 Nxa6 11. Qe2 Qb7 $6
12. Nf3 Rb8 $6 {Heinrich observes that it is better not to speculate about the
meaning of this secretive move.} (12... Bxc3 {Alex Dunne suggests idea ...c5})
(12... O-O-O {
was preferred in Schakend Nederland and other contemporary annotations.}) 13.
Kf2 Bxc3 (13... c5 $2 14. Nb5) 14. bxc3 c5 {Heinrich suggests that it was more
urgent to play 14..h5 followed by ...Nc7 to hold the kingside.} 15. Qb5+ {
This lures the e7-N to c6, so making it easier to advance f4-f5.} 15... Nc6 16.
Rab1 O-O $2 {Castling into the attack is brilliantly proved wrong in the
sequel which redeems the rather poor play in the earlier part of the game.   #}
(16... c4 {(Dunne etc.) idea ...Nc7 and K will find safety on d7.}) 17. g4 $1
Na5 {Heinrich observes that ...Ne7 would probably not hold the position any
longer in view of h4-h5, so Black plays for swindling chances on the queenside.
The idea is to obstruct the white Q's return to the centre but White doesn't
need the Q for the attack!} 18. f5 $1 Nc4 19. f6 Nc7 20. Qb3 Qc6 $2 {
Black makes a poor position worse by failing to eliminate the dark-squared B.}
(20... Nxd2 $8 {Dunne etc.}) 21. Bh6 Rfc8 22. h4 a5 {#} 23. h5 $1 a4 (23... g5
{is ineffective: White will parry the threat of ...a4 (by moving the b1-r) and
then capture the g-pawn at leisure.}) 24. hxg6 fxg6 (24... hxg6 25. Bg7) (24...
axb3 25. gxh7+ Kxh7 26. Bg7+ Kg8 27. Rh8#) 25. Ng5 $1 axb3 (25... Qd7 {
is an interesting defensive attempt} 26. Bg7 $1 (26. f7+ Qxf7+ 27. Nxf7 axb3)
26... Qxg7 {with two possibilities for White, both mentioned by Heinrich:} (
26... Ne8 27. Qxa4 $1 Qxa4 $140 28. f7+ Kxg7 29. Rxh7+ Kf8 30. Nxe6+ Ke7 {
and now more elegant than the crude promotion to a queen would be} 31. f8=B+
Kxe6 32. Re7#) (26... h5 27. gxh5 gxh5 (27... axb3 28. h6 $1) 28. Rxh5 Qxg7 29.
Qxa4) 27. Qxa4 $1 (27. fxg7 {Dunne gives which is not so clear-cut:} 27... axb3
28. Rxh7 bxc2 (28... Ne8 29. Rbh1 Nxg7 30. Rh8#) (28... cxd4 {
is the most critical line according to Fritz 5 ***}) 29. Rbh1 c1=Q 30. Rh8+
Kxg7 31. R1h7#) 27... Rf8 (27... b5 28. Qa7 {/\fxg7, /\Rxh7}) 28. Kg3 Rxf6 29.
exf6 Qxf6 30. Qd7 $18 {Schakend Nederland}) (25... Rf8 26. Bxf8 (26. Bg7 {
or Heinrich}) 26... Rxf8 27. Rxh7 {and Rbh1 (S.N.)}) 26. f7+ $1 (26. Bg7 {
would spoil everything:} 26... Nd2 27. Rxh7 Ne4+ 28. Nxe4 dxe4 (28... Kxh7 $2 {
but not} 29. Rh1+ Kg8 30. Rh8+ Kf7 31. Ng5#)) 26... Kh8 27. Nxh7 $1 bxc2 (27...
Kxh7 28. Bf8#) 28. Nf6 cxb1=Q 29. f8=Q+ {
and Black resigned because White announced mate in three moves.} (29. f8=Q+
Rxf8 30. Bg7+ $1 Kxg7 31. Rh7# {#  Black has two queens, a rook and a knight
more than his opponent but it's checkmate.  A variant on the mating position
was incorporated in a Swedish 3 kr. postage stamp issued on October 12, 1985,
in a series of stamps with other board game motifs.}) 1-0
Per la lettura di questa partita (in formato PGN) ci vuole CBLight o qualche prodotto
ChessBase, altrimenti rimarranno nel testo i segni strani (tipo $).
2. La "Combinazione immortale":
[Event "Breslau"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1912.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Levitzky"]
[Black "Marshall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "5rk1/pp4pp/4p2r/4R1Q1/3n4/2q4B/P1P2PPP/5RK1 b - - 0 22"]
[PlyCount "11"]
22... Rxh3 $1 23. Rc5 (23. gxh3 $2 Nf3+) 23... Qg3 $3 24. Qxg3 (24. fxg3 Ne2+
25. Kh1 Rxf1#) (24. hxg3 Ne2#) 24... Ne2+ 25. Kh1 Nxg3+ 26. Kg1 Nxf1 27. gxh3
Nd2 0-1
3. Il "Finale immortale":
[Event "tn24"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1897.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Troitzky, A."]
[Black "[+1341.03e1h3]"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4B3/8/6N1/5p2/1r4p1/6pk/7b/4K2Q w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "11"]
[EventDate "1897.??.??"]
4. Il "Problema immortale":
[Event "Matto in 9"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1856.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Bayer, C."]
[Black "[+4574.24c5h7]"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Annotator "The Era"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "3Q4/5q1k/4ppp1/2Kp1N1B/RR6/3P1r2/4nP1b/3b4 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "17"]
[EventDate "1856.??.??"]
1. Rb7 $1 Qxb7 2. Bxg6+ $1 Kxg6 3. Qg8+ Kxf5 4. Qg4+ Ke5 5. Qh5+ Rf5 6. f4+
Bxf4 7. Qxe2+ Bxe2 8. Re4+ dxe4 9. d4# 1-0
Insomma... ce n'e' per tutti i gusti!!!
Saluti
Ivo

 [PlyCount "11"]
come posso far apparire la scacchiera con i relativi pezzi da questa
notazione. (senza ricostruirla manualmente)
grazie
gianfranco

notazione. (senza ricostruirla manualmente)
In questo caso copia il testo contenuto all'interno delle virgolette SENZA
includerle, ovvero solo questo
5rk1/pp4pp/4p2r/4R1Q1/3n4/2q4B/P1P2PPP/5RK1 b - - 0 22
a questo punto, in Fritz 6, dovrebbe essere sufficiente selezionare il menů
Edit/Paste position
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Ti ringrazio Luca,
sei stato chiaro e semplice!
tutto ha funzionato....per la prima domanda ci stavo arrivando da solo ma mi
sembrava troppo semplice rinominare il file in pgn, mentre per la seconda
non ci sarei mai arrivato.
grazie infinite
ciao
gianfranco

 
C'e' modo di aprire la posizione con ChessMaster ??
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Se ti salvi il file con estensione PGN, potrai aprirlo tranquillamente con ChessMaster
e visualizzare le partite i problemi o quello che vuoi!
(Vedi il post di Luca Dormio!)
Ciao
Ivo