Newsgroup: it.comp.os.win.nt
Titolo: IBM ATA100 45Gb e NT4.0: perche' non va?

Perche' non riesco a installare Nt4 su questo Hd?
La mia config e' questa:
Asus A7V + Duron + IBM Ata 100 come primario sul bus ata e un
vecchissimo conner come slave dell'IBM. Ho gia' installato win 98 su
una partizione di 500Mb sull'IBM e ho provato a installare Nt sulla
seconda part da 500Mb (sempre dell'Ibm) NTFS. La procedura fila liscia
fino alla lettura del 3° dischetto (quello con i driver), riconosce il
lettore Cd e mi chiede se voglio installare qualche altro hw. Dico di
no, l'installazione prosegue ancora per poco e poi mi dice che non e'
presente nessun Hd sul pc. Ma se ha appena copiato tutti i file di Nt
!!! Come fa a non vedere piu' l'hd ? Non so piu' dove sbattere la
testa. Ho provato a copiare i driver ata della A7V sul dischetto di
installazione di nt (perche' se li fornisco a parte non li legge), ma
non serve a niente .
Grazie in anticipo
Luc

 fino alla lettura del 3° dischetto (quello con i driver)
Quali driver? Quelli del SP4?
No? Ah ecco... ;-)
Si'? Allora non ho detto niente.
CIAO

CIAO
Perdona l'ignoranza, ma se ancora non ho installato NT, come faccio ad
usare il SP ?
Ciao

doesn't_w...@cippalippa.com
 wrote:
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La tua ignoranza non e' perdonabile dato che e' una FAQ... ;-D
Ah, c'e' anche un riferimento alle schede madri Asus (la tua?) quindi
leggi tutto con attenzione.
http://www.windows2000faq.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=13894
    Q. How do I install on a disk larger than 8GB?
    A. The Microsoft supplied generic IDE driver (Atapi.sys) may not be
fully compatible with drives larger
    that 8 GB. This issue only affects IDE-based drives 8 GB and larger
however Service Pack 4 includes an
    updated ATAPI.SYS allowing access to disks greater than 8GB.
    Windows 2000 will support (bootable) partitions larger than 8GB
provided the booting controllers BIOS
    supports EXT INT-13 BIOS calls.
    The system board BIOS must support and recognize drives larger than 8
GB before Windows NT can
    access the entire drive. You can verify this ability by entering into
the BIOS or contacting your system
    board manufacturer. To use the SP4 ATAPI.EXE under NT 4.0 perform the
following:
       1.Download the updated Atapi.sys from Microsoft's FTP server,
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-unsup-ed/fixes/nt40/atapi/ATAPI.EXE
and copy the file
         to a blank floppy disk.
       2.Run Atapi.exe on the diskette and the new Atapi.sys file will be
extracted to the diskette. Label
         the disk "ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver." or something along
those lines
       3.Boot from the three setup disks supplied with Windows NT Server
as per normal.
       4.When asked if you would like setup to detect your mass storage
devices, press S so that
         detection is skipped and you specify a mass storage device.
       5.When setup list devices found, which should list none, press S
again and insert the Microsoft
         ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver disk and press ENTER twice. After
setup reads the disk and list the
         Microsoft ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE driver, press ENTER to accept
the driver.
       6.Setup will now list Microsoft ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver as
an installed driver. If you have
         additional drivers for other mass storage devices, press S, if
not, press ENTER to continue through
         setup.
       7.Setup should continue as per normal but it may prompt you to
insert the disk labeled "Microsoft
         ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver Support Disk" at the copy phase
after you have chosen or
         formatted a partition on a hard drive.
    If you are using Microsoft Small Business Server 4.0 or 4.0a, follow
these instructions:
       1.Download the updated ATAPI.SYS from Microsoft's FTP server
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-unsup-ed/fixes/nt40/atapi/ATAPI.EXE
and copy the file
         to a blank floppy disk.
       2.Run Atapi.exe on the disk and the new Atapi.sys file will be
extracted to the disk. Label the
         diskette "ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver."
       3.Copy an updated file to Small Business Server (SBS) disk 2. To do
this, rename the file Winnt.sif to
         Winnt.bak on disk 2. Then copy the Winnt.sif from the I386 folder
on SBS CD 1 to SBS disk 2.
       4.Boot from the modified SBS setup disks.
       5.When the computer is booting off of disk 1 and the message "Setup
is inspecting your hardware
         configuration..." is displayed, press F6 on the keyboard. NOTE:
This is at a black screen and no
         visible indicators occur when you press F6.
       6.When prompted, insert the modified disk 2 into the computer. The
next screen that appears will
         prompt you to specify a mass storage drivers. To do that, press
the S key and then arrow down
         to the listing of OTHER.
       7.Insert the Microsoft ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver disk and
press ENTER twice.
       8.After setup reads the disk and list the Microsoft ATAPI Service
Pack 4 IDE driver, press ENTER to
         accept the driver.
       9.Setup will now list "Microsoft ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver"
as a installed driver. If you have any
         more drivers for other mass storage devices, press S; if not,
press ENTER to continue through
         setup. NOTE: Because we are using a modified version of
Winnt.sif, you will be prompted to insert
         disks 2 and 3 several times.
      10.Make sure you format or convert the partition to NTFS as SBS
requires it.
      11.Setup should continue through normally but it will prompt you to
insert the disk labeled "Microsoft
         ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver Support Disk" at the copy phase
after you have chosen or
         formatted a partition on a hard drive.
    Running ATAPI.EXE creates the files below:
         atapi.sys
         Disk1
         oemsetup.inf
         readme.txt
         txtsetup.oem
    The NT 4.0 SP4 atapi.sys file is neither necessary nor supported for
Windows Terminal Server Edition. If
    you try to use it, you may get a message to the effect that you don't
have the necessary component
    installed. As long as you stick to the 2GB/8GB install limits, this
extension is not necessary.
    Apparently, Microsoft refuses to support booting NT from any partition
bigger than 8 GB for SCSI. The
    newer Adaptec 2940U2W cards are set up so that NT cannot be booted if
the partition is larger than 8
    GB, but unfortunately the older Adaptec cards still allow this largely
undocumented "mistake" to occur.
    Do not use Partition Magic prior to version 3.03 on a big disk; it
doesn't understand the new INT 13
    extensions and it can destroy your hard drive.
    NOTE:  I've been informed that with the "ASUS P3B" Motherboard-series
you can't use this solution, it
    simply won't boot with IDE from that motherboard-series.

leggi tutto con attenzione.
Che dire ... Per ora ti ringrazio, vediamo se funziona ... Smanettando
un po' sono riuscito a far "completare la parte MSdos
dell'installazione", ma dopo il primo riavvio, dopo la selezione tra
Dos e Prosecuzione dell'installazione, mi compare la finestra blu di
debug e si pianta tutto ...