Newsgroup: it.fan.tv.friends
Titolo: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ciao
Vittorix

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quanto ad ermetismo non ti batte nessuno :P

 quanto ad ermetismo non ti batte nessuno :P
una delle migliori aziende del mondo mi ha offerto un lavoro per 10.000$ in 
piu' di quello che avrei chiesto :-D
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ciao
Vittorix 


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sono contento per te...
quasi quasi mi trasferisco negli USA... qui invece quando ti fanno un
colloquio di lavoro neanche ti dicono lo stipendio... e se lo chiedi
ti dicono "di quello ne parliamo un'altra volta" (mi è successo 2
volte)

 volte)
anche qui non si parla mai all'inizio di salario, poi pero' ti chiedono loro 
o te lo dicono.
a me e' arrivata una email e poi la lettera a casa..
non mi aspettavo tanti soldi e benefits, avrei accettato per molto meno :)
non fare mai lo sbaglio di chiedere il salario, prima devi passare 
attraverso una fase in cui fai capire alla azienda che sei una risorsa 
importante per loro.
una volta che li hai convinti di quello puoi negoziare, ma se chiedi prima 
ti dimostri interessato solo a quello e non funziona.
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ciao
Vittorix