Newsgroup: it.arti.musica.strumenti.chitarra
Titolo: overdrive o distorsore?

Ciao a tutti
ho intenzione di comprare qualche effettino per la mia chitarra, come prima 
cosa vorrei partire ovviamente dal distorsore... A questo punto mi si č 
presentato un dilemma: overdrive o distorsore?
Ovvero, vorrei sapere la differenza fra i due, per scegliere il piů 
adatto... Come genere vorrei suonare punk ma anche "rock tranquillo", non so 
se mi spiego...
So che per il punk rock probabilmente č piů adatto il distorsore, ma vorrei 
capire l'overdrive per che genere č adatto..
Gracias 


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Scusa ma non ho capito.. 

Scusa ma non ho capito.. 
No, niente, e' che la tua domanda conteneva una collezione di vizi di
forma che si vedono piu' spesso su questo NG.
Per venire alla tua domanda, dopo 20 secondi di ricerca su google, le
prime 3 pagine riportano queste informazioni:
- "[...]An overdrive in the most basic fashion is nothing more than a
straight booster/preamp that you might use to goose the input of a
tube amp to drive it harder. These don't necessarily add distortion of
their own, but their gain is enough to drive the input of an amp into
distortion. These are least likely to "color" your tone. Examples of
these pedals are things like the Electro-Harmonix LPB-1, the Z-Vex
Super Hard-On, the Fulltone Fat Boost, the MXR Micro-Amp,
etc.[...]Next up is what most of us might consider the "classic"
overdrive pedal. These are boosters with some clipping circuitry, but
for the most part they are only meant for "mild" distortion. Most of
us would be familiar with the Ibanez Tube Screamer and the 1200
variants on this circuit (including the Boss SD-1) These often sound
bad (to me at least) through a solid state amp, but combining their
mild clipping with the boost that they give you, they tend to be just
what the doctor ordered when pushing a tube amp's input. Other
examples here are the Fulltone Fulldrive, Vox Valvetone, Nobels
Overdrive, Many of the yellow Boss pedals including the OD-3.[...]Next
in the line would be higher gain pedals which would be considered more
Distortion than overdrive. These are often not capable of the low gain
stuff that something like a Tube Screamer would do, but some can get
down to that range. The difference is that they have way more clipping
capabilities and get a much heavier distortion. Examples of these are
the Proco Rat, the Boss DS-1, the MXR Distortion +/DOD Overdrive 250
(see how the lines get blurry? It's really a clipping distortion, but
DOD calls it an overdrive. It's the same circuit for the most part,
with the MXR Distortion +....so one company's Distortion is another's
Overdrive...) , E-H Big Muff, etc. There are pedals with insane
amounts of gain, and some EQing capabilities to simulate a decked
metal amp, but I'd still consider them Distortion, and these would be
pedals like the Boss Heavy Metal and Metal Zone, and the Danelectro
Fabtone, etc."
- "If I had a dollar for every time someone asked about the difference
between fuzz, distortion and overdrive, I could probably buy a new
Dumble amp. I've often seen explanations posted online about what the
terms mean and can only say that they are fabrications at best. Fuzz
is supposed to be hard grinding buzz sounds, distortion as a smoother
all-around harmonics generator and overdrive is a mild sound imitating
an amp breaking up with more boost than distortion (see clean-boost
rant below). I've also seen people try to explain it by the way the
circuit generates its sound, such as clipping diodes for distortions
and overdriven preamp stages for overdrives (naturally), but the
Fuzzface overdrives its transistors and it's a fuzz. The Tube
Screamers have clipping diodes but almost everyone calls them
overdrives. Confused yet?
In a quick scan through the Musician's Friend catalog, the Real Tubes
901 is called an overdrive and the Budda Phatman is called a
distortion... both of which contain tubes. The Big Muff is also called
a distortion but then so is the Boss Metal Zone. I guarantee you
neither of them sound like the Phatman. The Bixonic Expandora claims
to go from crunch to overdrive to distortion as the Gain control is
turned up. Crunch?
The real deal is that there is no real distinction between the
descriptive labels applied to signal distorting effects boxes. All of
them are boosting the signal; some are overdriving gain stages and
others are using clipping diodes. All create distortion and add
harmonics. However, in general terms I usually use them in the
following order from mildest to the most heavy: crunch - overdrive -
distortion - fuzz.
Once again (as always), let you ears be the guide and don't use labels
as a guideline for making decisions on what
crunch/overdrive/distortion/fuzz unit to buy. "
- " What is the difference between "distortion" and "overdrive"? And
"fuzz"?
    Effectively none. "Overdrive" started as what you got when you put
too large a signal into the input of an amp, causing the signal to be
distorted at the speaker. You were "overdriving" the inputs.
"Distortion" is the more generic term, and started when folks noticed
that you could get a distorted sound from a little solid state amp
that was VERY nonlinear. The terms have been used so interchangeably
that there is no real difference, although some people will swear that
only tubes being overdriven sound good, etc. Let them insist. It won't
hurt much either way.
    Boss and Ibanez seemed to define this difference with their
pedals. The Boss OD-1 and Ibanez TS-9 Tube screamer "overdrives" are a
smoother, less harsh sound than the DS-1 and SD-9 distortions.
    The distortion pedals add more crunchy, gritty sound, whereas the
overdrives add more smoothness and not as much distorted crunch. An
MXR "distortion plus" is the definitive distortion pedal from the
1970s.
    "Fuzz" seems to be an easier term to agree on a definition for.
Pretty much everyone involved agrees that fuzz is a harder, harsher,
and buzzier distortion than overdrive, and usually considered harder
and harsher than "distortion" by itself. There is no real boundary on
all this - it's just which words you want to use, no strict
definitions."
In pratica:
1) dice che l'overdrive serve a saturare l'ampli, aggiungendo una
distorsione bassa o nulla, e che non colora troppo il suono, mentre il
distorsore aggiunge tanta distorsione e colora di piu' il suono
2) dice che non cambia un cazzo, sono nomi che si danno ai pedali
perche' chiamandoli semplicemente *pedali* non si capisce un cazzo.
(come dargli torto).
3) dice che l'ovedrive da' un suono piu' morbido, il distorsore piu'
aspro.
Chi abbia ragione non lo so (personalmente penso una somma di 1 e 3),
cosa vada meglio per te dipende da che strumentazione hai (hai notato
che non ce l'hai detto? Come si puo' consigliarti un accessorio se non
si conosce con cosa deve andare a lavorare?).
Chiedere per quali generi musicali va bene l'overdrive invece e' come
chiedere se la Manzotin va bene per il pranzo o per la cena.
-- 
Straitouttahell
http://strait.altervista.org

"pollypink" ha scritto:
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Premettendo che e' impossibile darti una risposta piu' completa di quella di 
straitouttahell,
cerco piuttosto di puntare sulla sintesi.
Per iniziare prova a prenderti un distorsore, tipo il Marshall Jackhammer 
che ha anche una modalita' overdrive,
e sperimenta fino a che non trovi un suono che ti soddisfa.
Ciao
Thom 

O anche il Guv'Nor, davvero un'ottimo pedale della Marshall
overdrive-distorsione.