Newsgroup: it.comp.os.amiga
Titolo: [amigaone] Announcement :-) (fwd)


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Subject: RE: [amigaone] Announcement :-)
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mr.Return [mailto:
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]
  Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:24 PM
  To: 
amig...@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [amigaone] Announcement :-)
  things will improve. How do you want to reach such a number ?
Will there
be
  any improvements over OS3.9 like:
  - A really integrated TCP/IP-stack
  Brand new, written from scratch.
  - Memory Protection for new apps (I know it is impossible for
old ones)
  Virtual Memory will come in OS4, which will make a big
difference. MP is
much harder and will be
  done in OS5.
  - recource tracking
  the Amiga Component Model will give you that.
  - SMP
  OS5
  - A new datatypes-system, especially for streaming and anims
  The ACM and streaming system will give you that.
  - a new and better soundsystem, with support for surround and
3D
  The Audio system will be the best of any system out there. We
have 5 of
the best audio people in
  the world working on it.
  - 2D and 3D APIs, integrated into the gfx-system instead of
hacked-in like
  now
  Already underway, and with our close alliance with Matrox,
there will be
not only standard high level APIs
  but GLIDE like low level APIs to really take advantage of
Matrox cards.
  - a new Workbench
  OS4.5
  - an improved intuition.library (we really need one !)
  OS4.5
  - hardware-independancy
  OS4.2
  - a new filesystem
  OS4.0 -
  - a good printer-system with drivers for more printers
  Probably OS4.2, waiting for USB, and for the full benefits,
OS5, the PDP
media
  system.
  2) AmigaDE
  We always heard that the AmigaDE will run on everything from
PDAs to
  servers. I think you have left this idea behind, I have
understood it that
  way that it will run on STBs and PDAs and the new AmigaOS 4. Is
this right
  That's correct.
  ? Do you think that there will be a really native version for
x86 & co, I
  mean a real desktop-os, later in the future ?
  It will integrate into existing desktop OSs. That is what all
of our big
customers tell us is necessary
  for success.
  What I liked about the AmigaDE as it was announced in the past
was the
fact
  that (as I understood it) developers would have the possibility
to write
an
  application or a game for the AmigaDE and contribute some kind
of
  runtime-environment including all necessary stuff like the
translator, the
  Elate-kernel, GUI, Sound and 3D-APIs or whatever is needed by
the product
  for every supported operating system with it. This could bring
developers
  to the AmigaDE and if there is a version of AmigaDE hosted (or
really part
  of) on AmigaOS 4 then there would be many new apps and games
and then
maybe
  there will be some new (or old ? :-)) users. Will this still be
possible ?
  Yes.
  Will the AmigaDE still contain stuff like OpenGL, a sound-API
or some
  gui-stuff ? Or will it only contain things PDAs need ? If it
would contain
  everything needed by big apps like office-packages or games I
think many
  developers would come along, even companies, because they could
increase
  their sales from let´s say only Windows-users to Mac, Linux and
AmigaOS 4
  users without the need to make several version. Write once run
everywhere
  The AmigaDE has a capabilities system which dynamically matches
requests
to capabilities. If you
  are on a desktop, you can use AmigaDE desktop apps.
  :-) This would be good and the only way to re-animate the
classic-os,
  because if AmigaOS 4 has an integrated AmigaDE with a directly
connected
  GUI, 3D and whatever, then it could be a better platform to run
  AmigaDE-apps and then, once there are enough, we could get new
users.
  Ok, I am writing and writing and probably annoying you, sorry
if I did so.
  Not at all - questions are good 8-)
  regards
  Alexander Lohrmann
  P.s.: Will AmigaOS 4 run on existing PowerUP-hardware ? I think
this is a
  must-be, otherwise many users will feel traited ... (Is this
the right
word
  ?)
  At the moment no 8-( Anyone who has bought PPC accelerators
understands
the drag the architecture
  has placed on those products. To code an AmigaOS4 around that
solution is
to condemn it before it even
  begins. The new AmigaOnes will be cheap enough and expandible,
and will be
orders of magnitude faster than
  the existing products. It is hard, but this is the first Amiga
certified
hardware in over five years - the line has to be
  drawn somewhere, and this is it.
  There is a possibility of a software compatability layer, but
the
performance would most likely kill its usefulness
  compared to an AmigaOne.
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Reply-To: 
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To: 
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Subject: RE: [amigaone] Announcement :-)
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kevin Tiernan [mailto:
the...@elfnet.co.uk
]
  Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:50 PM
  To: 
amig...@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [amigaone] Announcement :-)
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Mr.Return [mailto:
mr.r...@gmx.de
]
  > Sent: 01 April 2001 15:24
  > To: 
amig...@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [amigaone] Announcement :-)
  >
  >
  > Hi !
  >
  > The announcement in St.Louis has really been like an
earthquake :-)
There
  > are several questions left that are not answered yet (or at
least
  > I did not
  > find the answers)
  Me too :-) however my take on the situation is:
  Amiga DE stand alone for PDA's, Set top boxes etc.
  Amiga DE hosted on desktop systems such as Linux, winblows.
  Amiga DE embedded into Amiga OS 4.2 PPC.
  Fleecy is this correct?
  Close 8-)
  AmigaDE is our universal, runs anywhere solution - it must have
a host,
either hardware or software.
  For low to medium end open and any closed system, it can run
hardware
hosted. For desktop, workstation
  and server, it will run software hosted - this includes
AmigaOS4.2, where
it will be highly integrated, since
  we control the host - it will be faster on the AmigaOS than on
any other
software host.
  This gives Amigans their existing OS being developed, plus the
AmigaDE, in
one integrated package on
  one box, having full access not just to AmigaOS only apps but
to any
AmigaDE app as well.
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