Newsgroup: it.media.video.produzione
Titolo: (Inglese) L'arrivo di Premiere Pro...

 are some good real-time alternatives that use Premiere?
So the Dropper becomes the Dropped.  Poetic justice, I'd say.
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It's not the current drivers, although they do have issues, they work
for me.  It's that Pinnacle is not going to support Premiere anymore.
I want to use the new Pro version of the Adobe program with the DV500,
but the DV500 has basically been axed.  Pinnacle is just selling out
it's remaining stock. When they say the card will still be supported,
they are refering to warrenty repairs.  There will be no new drivers,
or fixes.   They expect DV500 owners to switch to Pinnacle Edition,
which will severely limit the realtime analoge output of the DV500.
The only way Pinnacle will allow realtime output with Edition is if
you pay an additional $500.00 for a videocard they are selling.  I
don't want to use Edition.  I'm sure it's a fine program, but the
DV500 becomes a generic firewire card when used with Edition.
Rob
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Hi Rob,
I also have Pinnacle Edition, I did a competitive upgrade. I so far have not
gotten comfortable with it. I have tried, but it is a little complex and
different from what I was used to, but I am giving it a go. So we will see,
so far I only made a simple SVCD from the timeline. it was easy and played
on my dvd player, not bad. if the DVD creation works just as well then it
would have been worth it to learn.
The only thing to consider with the Matrox competitive upgrade offer is, at
$599 it doesn't come with any version of Premiere. And you need to send back
your card.
So you will not get the free upgrade to Premiere Pro with the upgrade, so
that's another $199 to shell out. So it's really costing you $799 plus lose
of old hardware.
If you can sell the old hardware online for $250 with Premiere, then buy the
full version at $899 or $949, you are better off, you save about $50-$100,
get the new Pro when available and have the 6.5 to work with the new extreme
drivers.
The Extreme will not work with Premiere 6.02, only 6.5.
It's another way of thinking about it.
Or, sell your old hardware for $200, use that to upgrade to premiere pro and
use the other $599 to buy a new motherboard and cpu! Which in two months
will be even cheaper and faster, and unhitch yourself from proprietary
hardware and their drivers for video editing.
AnthonyR
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Nether,
Yes, from what I seen, it does realtime effects quite good. In realtime
output not only on the computer monitor but also thru 1394 dv out to
camcorder and an ntsc monitor hooked up to that! So yeah, expensive cards
might be a thing of the past.
I was going to order the Matrox x100 because at $899US it says it will come
with a free upgrade to Premiere Pro, so that's saving you another $199,
bringing it to only$699. I thought that was a good deal, but the more I
thought, all I kept thinking was driver incompatibilities, freeze ups and
reboots, until all the bugs get worked out.
And all for what, realtime dv output? premiere pro has it with a fast cpu
already.
The realtime MPEG would be nice, but I have a feeling it will be better with
software in Premiere Pro. I seen setting for dual pass VBR, and the adobe
guy said it can be done in faster than realtime eventually with faster
computers.
So why get stuck with hardware that needs constant driver support etc?
I will wait till September and see, what is bundled with the Matrox cards
then, if it comes with encore also, maybe I'll bite.
As far as Premiere Pro, its so much different than 6.5, entirely rewritten
code, that is why it only works on XP. I suspect it will run even better on
the new AMD Opteron 64bit processor coming out soon. So its all a wait and
see game for now.
AnthonyR
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It doesn't surprise me very much that Pinnacle is making yet another move to
alienate more customers. I have been less than impressed with their customer
service for many years, and I'm not the only one.
Canopus has good products and good support - check out their line. I'm not
familiar with their current line, but my DVRex has served me excellently for
over 3 years - NO problems.
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 non nuova a questi giochetti, di forzare l'acquisto di nuovi
Fausto ha ragione.
Conosco ancora gente che produce roba broadcast con DC50, Premiere 5.1 e Win95b.
E non gliene puo' fregare di meno della roba che fa finta di portare
innovazione.
Forse importa a chi col PC ci gioca a fare il montatore dei filmati delle
vacanze, con tutto il rispetto per questi ultimi.
Purtroppo e' una corsa alla quale partecipa solo chi non conosce l'alternativa.
E' un gioco, e alla Pinnacle/Matrox sanno che alla gente col PC piace giocare e
spendere i soldi per poter dire agli amici "io lo posso fare, anche se non so
cosa farmene".
Ciao

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Yes, perň con tutto il rispetto per chi lo fa ti voglio vedere a
LAVORARE con l'equivalente di Prem 5.1 eccetera...
Mi sa che dopo un po' corri al negozio a comprare quello
che ti mettono nel piatto. E li ringrazi pure. Tanto loro
non fanno altro che non aggiornare i driver e ciao peppo.
La Pinnacle fa oggi l'offerta di prenderti indietro che so
la DC 2000 piuttosto che la Targa 3000 in cambio di
uno sconto di qualche cento euro per darti Edition
con la VGA.... La Matrox segue con il nuovo hardware
Digisuite per non essere da meno.
E quelle lě non erano schede per i matrimoni.