Newsgroup: it.arti.musica.metal
Titolo: I King's X si sciolgono?

Per ora no...
Daniele
KING'S X frontman Doug Pinnick has issued the following statement in 
response to rumors that the band were on the verge of breaking up:
"I wish I could set down and answer all the questions, and speculations.
I  will try to make light of some of the things said and suggested. You
guys are wonderful so please dont take anything I say as negative or
bitching... There's no anger here... just love.
"Here goes... We never fit in; no matter what we do, we can't get the
masses on board, and we've done everything there is. I know you all have
suggestions of what we could do do get more successful, but we have done
everything there is to do! Or at least inquired about it all... We just
can't get the folks on board. Woodstock '94 we played for 300 thousand
people, and the next week on SoundScan we sold about 200 CDs. Then the
week later nothing to comment on.... The rest of the bands on the bill -
JACKYL, SHERYL CROW, LIVE, CANDLEBOX, etc. - sold millions!!! We got the
best slot of the day, and USA Today, Howard Stern, MTV said we were the
best band that day! We sold nothing... and it changed my life. I cut my
hair and almost gave up! Plus I was going through midlife crisis. I
started getting panic attacks and got blinded by my self-hate. 'Ear
Candy' was the result.
"Management? We have had people check us out and they say were doing a
better job by ourselves than they could. after they see what we have to
go through to get a gig and keep the boat afloat. Others say we're
precieved as an old band and they feel they can't help us.
"Record companies? We tried to give Atlantic a done CD with nothing to
do but throw it out there. They passed, saying they are only interested
in new young bands. ALL other companies rejected us except Metal Blade
and InsideOut. Thank the gods for that...
"Booking agent? They say they can't get many promoters to bring us; they
all think they will lose money...
"Deep Purple? we're trying to get on that tour, and another oportunity
we can... but we have to pay to play, it's all political. That's the way
all bands are treated now, they all pay, Ozzfest... The record companies
pay to get all the bands on the tour. We don't have the $$. We opened
for many bands in the past to no avail. A few new converts, but not
enough...
"Paul Shaffer [of the 'Late Show with David Letterman'] plays 'Born to
be Loved' all the time... but to get to play live on the 'Letterman'
show? Practically impossible.
"I wish you all could understand how impossible the situation is these
days for many bands. It sucks! The rejection to KING'S X is overwhelming
in the music marketplace. You can imagine how it makes us feel.
"Christian music scene?? Yeah, we could have been maybe the biggest band
in Christian music, but we're not hypocrites, and when the Christians
find out that we drink, smoke weed and I am gay, they would turn on us
anyway, so why go there? That just hurts. Besides that, they rejected us
anyway after they learned who we were. They're human, they hide it.
We're not like that, we're too honest. That's why I am down on Christian
music. In the name of truth they live lies. That's never been me, or
KING'S X. It's one of our biggest faults. The Christian music scene was
a dead end for us no matter what had happened in our career. I am
agnostic now anyway. We just couldn't justify being a Christian band. It
just wasn't the truth. I was raised Christian and have seen the
Christian music scene first-hand. I can't be a part of it and I couldn't
back then either... and we're still called a Christian band to this day.
It wasn't kosher back then either. I remember so many people saying that
they couldnt get their friends to listen to KING'S X 'cause we were
Christian, even though STRYPER were successful. Now it's accepted being
a Christian band, but we're not one of those bands. What's done is done
and it's the past...
"Downhill career? 'Manic Moonlight' was a good CD; I don't care what
anyone says... I put my heart in that CD and wrote some songs that I am
proud of.  There was some wasted space on it, but isn't that the way
most CDs are? We really did our best with what we had and who we were at
the time. This band started out downhill, now we're in a hole. We
couldn't get the $ for a producer for years, so we did it ourselves; at
least we tried. Then we paid for Michael Wagener out of our own pockets,
and finished the CD paying for it ourselves. We are really trying to do
the right things, but all we get are walls. There's only so much we can
do without money, record company support and attendance. We have maybe
sold a million CDs combined from day one! That's not many in the real
world. And Atlantic put millions into promoting us. More than most we
have had the oportunity for exposure and we got it.
"I know some of you think there's things we should be doing, but trust
me, we have tried or checked out all the possibities, it's just not as
easy as you may think. We need all-ages shows, and it's almost
impossible to get them. That's just fact. It sucks playing at such late
times when people have to go to work or drive hours to attend. We always
ask for early shows and all ages, it just dosent happen. Bands that are
successful without airplay or much promotion? It's a mystery. We're
doing what they did and here we are. We're going home from this tour
broke. I get no $ when I am off tour, I have to fend for myself. That's
life, I guess. Same as everyone else, I wish it wasn't so...
"25 years of doing this with KING'S X... Wven in the early days before
the record deal, we couldn't get good attendance doing covers when the
other bands we competed with packed the clubs... It's always been this
way, we just don't appeal to the masses. Maybe if we had about 10
million to promote us??? But there's no guarantee. We're precieved as an
old band in the marketplace that is well respected but not a moneymaker.
Bands try to take us out with them but their management always reject
us. We may not tour for a while because of all of this...we can't.
"We have made mistakes, for sure, in our career, but we have realy tried
to do the right things. We're not the same people as we were when we
started this band, and we always try to do our best and make the best
music we can.  Sometimes it didn't seem like it was the best effort at
the time, but if you were there, you would understand.
"We are so thankful for the support from the faithful. We wouldn't be
here  if it wasnt for all of you people. The band is really down these
days,  frustrated, and out of money and ideas that will work. We're not
young  upcoming wide-eyed kids anymore, and this music biz is obsessed
with youth.  The whole U.S. is this way, just look around.
"It's not over untill the fat lady sings, they say... Well, she's at the
mic.
"I have had a wonderful adventure being in this band and being me. I
have been blessed more than most. I take nothing for granted. We could
go on and on about what we should do and what we haven't, but at the end
of the day, we have done the best that we could with what is before us.
"We're not done, we're not breaking up. We're still hoping to be the
biggest band in the world, and I have many more songs in my head and on
demos to throw out there for you guys. good or bad, you can decide. I
will make music as long as I can breathe.
"I have questioned my whole life and this band's place in the world.
It's still a mystery to me. This band I have invested 25 years of my
life to... and I think about my place in this more than anyone could
possibly know or  understand... and still don't know why no one realy
gives a feck on a major  scale. And people wonder why I have low
self-esteem. I am one of the biggest  losers that there is, and I don't
know why. No one in KING'S X knows why it  hasn't happened for us... but
I will keep doing what I do because I know  nothing else and I love
making music.
"Thanks for letting me ramble. Thanks for hearing me out. And like I
said  before, without you guys I probably wouldn't be alive. Thanks for
saving my life. I love you all. Keep the faith. It's not taken for
granted." 
-- 
"We are the ones who will never be broken, we are the ones who survive!
 This is the sound that brings us together, you are the one by our side!
 And through it all, the spirit's alive
 And through it all, your spirit's alive!" (Dropkick Murphys)

 granted." 
Un vero uomo. Fotte sega se è gay. I King's X sono stati (e in parte lo
sono ancora) una delle migliori 5 band degli ultimi 15-20 anni.
Ma la gente aveva voglia dei Blind Guardian...
Sput
Celebrimbor
-- 
"And toes that crawl, and knees that jerk, the necks like swans that seem
to turn, as if inclined to gasp or pray"
A.Bouchard/S.Pearlman 1973
Celebrimbor #145 
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 Ma la gente aveva voglia dei Blind Guardian...
E questo, 'azzo centra?
-- 
Elwood (Peter S.)

E questo, 'azzo centra?
Grosso modo niente, anche perche' i K'X saltarono fuori quando i Blind
Guardian erano gruppino underground tedesco che forse arrivava d'import
negli USA. Cio' non toglie che Pinnick e compagnia fossero degli eterni
pesci fuor d'acqua, e che la situazione purtroppo non abbia mai girato
a loro favore nemmeno per cinque minuti. Quel messaggio di Doug e'
molto amareggiante, soprattutto se pensi che viene da un musicista di
grande talento ed esperienza come lui.
Niccolo'.

 Per ora no...
...
Come lui stesso dice, nessuno ti garantisce il successo.
Spiace vedere  Doug in quello stato, soprattutto perchè penso che i 
King's x siano una delle band più personali degli ultimi 20 anni. Forse 
l'errore è proprio nel mettere sotto la lente il mancato successo, 
piuttosto che l'aver dato il meglio di se, perchè in fondo è quello che 
conta per la propria coscienza. Non ti darà da mangiare, ma forse 
recupererebbe un po' di serenità e di fiducia.
Detto questo spero di sentirli per ancora tanti anni...
-- 
Sláinte, Eirinn
icq# 3346238 - 
http://eirinn.altervista.org/
"Per aspera ad astra"

 grande talento ed esperienza come lui.
Ho letto tutto il messagio, ora. Ed e' veramente disarmante.. hai
ragione.
-- 
Elwood (Peter S.)

 negli USA. 
Ok, ok...intendevo solo dire che il grande pubblico optava per musica più
fracassona (anche se apprezzabile a tratti) piuttosto che su musica di
altissima qualità, anche se a volte insolita e non immeidata come quella
dei King's X.
Quando usciranno altri "Out of the silent planet", "Gretchen goes",
"Dogman"?
Teniamoli da conto questi dischi e conserviamone almeno la memoria
degnamente.
Interessante la notizia che nella loro acarriera i King's X abbiamo
venduto più o meno un milione di copie. Mi ricordo che Faith hope love è
stato il loro best seller con 250 mila copie.
Penso che Doug abbia sempre desiderato vendere parecchio, conscio
ovviamente della loro bravura.
L'essere relegato in una piccola etichetta vendendo decine di migliaia di
copie (forse centinaia di migliaia) gli vada stretto.
E' anche vero che qualitativamente gli ultimi 5-6 dischi non sono a
livello dei p rimi 5 però di merda he vende ce n'è fin troppa.
Continuiamo a sostenerli. Ad esempio non scaricando i loro album...almeno
i loro.


 Pure negro.
E vecchio. E bassista. E rocker. L'Uomo Delle Minoranze, potremmo dire.
Io lo ammiro orrendamente...cioč...ha 15 anni piu' di me (che non son
proprio uno sbarbo, eh....), e macina migliaia di miglia ogni anno per
suonare in localini spuzzi, capillarmente.

A me mi ha sempre colpito il fatto che non sian mai diventati gruppo di
stra-culto...particolari, ma non ostici. Un mix difficilissimo anche per i
migliori.
Cmq, anche si sciogliessero, ci han lasciato una discografia
sostanziosissima... soprattutto grazie al frocione, che ha suonato in
seimila progetti diversi.
-- 
Dischi del giorno:
- Glenn Hughes - Music for the divine
- Alberto Radius - Gente di Dublino
- Peter Criss - Cat #1
Video del giorno:
- Tommy Emmanuel che fa il circo. Spettacolo.

i loro.
Volentieri - anche se una scaricatina d'antipasto...
Niccolo'.

 Volentieri - anche se una scaricatina d'antipasto...
Credo sia un falso problema, ragazzi: alla fine degli Ottanta non si
scaricava un cazzo, erano pompati dalle TV (io li scopersi proprio vedendo i
video in TV)...come qualcun altro ha insinuato nel thread, è la massa dei
potenziali fruitori, che se ne sbatte della musica di qualità. L'ignoranza,
la vacuità, e la stupidità sono al potere. Da sempre.
Ah...da questa settimana metto in repertorio due covers dei King's X. Se
trovo UN kid in UN locale, in qualsiasi posto, che le conosce, metto giu' il
basso, scendo dal palco, e lo abbraccio. Giuro.


 Sput
La cagata finale del tutto fuori dal vaso mancava...LOL.
--
Alessio "The Sentinel"

 Volentieri - anche se una scaricatina d'antipasto...
Io l'ultimo lo presi subito, senza scaricatina. Però, obbiettivamente,
una scaricata di pre-gustazione ci vuole. 
Carlo

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:1148414527.8...@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Lost in Germany per prima!
Mendoza, suonate questa che ha un tiro niente male.
***Ho scelto Pretend, e Looking For Love. Il bello di essere leader di una
band, è che scegli tu cosa fare.


 i loro.
infatti io non li scarico :-DD
--
Alessio "The Sentinel" 

Celebrimbor© wrote:
 > Interessante la notizia che nella loro acarriera i King's X abbiamo
 > venduto più o meno un milione di copie. Mi ricordo che Faith hope love è
 > stato il loro best seller con 250 mila copie.
:O
Vero, sta scritto anche nel loro sito.
Credevo fosse stato un flop rispetto ai precedenti, avendolo trovato tra 
i forati a 1900 lire!
Il commento del mio coinquilino (non metallaro, tra l'altro) fu qualcosa 
del tipo "ma che roba è? maddai, questi sono più mosci anche di Bon 
Jovi", e andò a levare il CD dallo stereo personalmente, con una sonora 
risata, lanciandolo al gatto.
La title-track di quel disco è favolosa, per altro.
-- 
Moggi: "Lippi sa parlare solo di barche e di fighe"


Per fortuna! Anche se i dischi che preferisco sono i primi tre (degli
autentici masterpieces) sono tuttora una band da ammirare per
originalità, genuinità e coerenza.
Certo che l'intervista di Doug è una bella mazzata sulle palle ...
Bye
Randy