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Titolo: [OT Cine/Apocalypse now]  schegge

 "Every minute I stay in this room I get weaker. And every
minute Charlie squats in the bush he gets stronger. " (
Captain Willard )
" I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight
razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare. Crawling,
slithering, along the edge of a straight razor, and
surviving. " ( Colonel Kurtz )
" We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig,
cow after cow, village after village, army after army. And
they call me an assasin. What do you call it when the
assasins accuse the assasin ? " ( Colonel Kurtz )
" Out there with these natives it must be temptaion to be
God. 'Cause there's a conflict in every human heart between
the rational, the irrational, between good and evil. And
good does not always triumph. " ( General Corman)
" Every man has a breaking point. You and I have. Walt Kurtz
has reached his and obviously he has gone insane. " (
General Corman )
"First of the Ninth was an old cavalry division that had
cashed in its horses for choppers, and gone tear-assing
around 'Nam, looking for the shit." ( Captain Willard )
" We do a lot of surfing here. I like to finish operations
early. " ( Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore )
" Charlie don't surf ! " ( Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore )
" I'm not going ! I'm not going ! " ( A soldier )
"We'll come in low, out of the rising sun, and about a mile
out, we'll put on the music... Yeah, I use Wagner -- scares
the hell out of the slopes! My boys love it !" ( Lieutenant
Colonel Kilgore )
" I love the smell of napalm in the morning ! You know, one
time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours, and when it was
all over I walked up. We didn't find one of them, not one
stinking dink body. The smell -- you know, that gasoline
smell -- the whole hill -- it smelled like victory." (
Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore )
" Never get out of the boat. Absolutely god damn right.
Unless you were going all the way. Kurtz got off the boat.
He split from the whole fuckin' program. " ( Captain
Willard )
" Charlie is dug in too deep, or moving too fast. His idea
of R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two
ways home, death or victory. " ( Captain Willard )
" It was the way we had over here of living with ourselves.
We'd cut them in half with a machine gun and give them a
bandaid. It was a lie, and the more I saw of them, the more
I hated lies. " ( Captain Willard )
" The heads ? You're looking at the heads. Yeah, sometimes
he goes too far, you know. He's the first one to admit it. "
( Photo journalist )
"Do you know what the man is saying? Do you? This is
dialectics. It's very simple dialectics. One through nine,
no maybes, no supposes, no fractions. You can't travel in
space, you can't go out into space, you know, without, like,
you know, with fractions. What are you going to land on, one
quarter, three-eighths, what are you going to do when you go
from here to Venus or something -- that's dialectic physics,
OK? Dialectic logic is there's only love and hate, you
either love somebody or you hate them." ( Photo journalist )
" We train young men to drop fire on people. But their
commanders won't allow them to write fuck on their airplanes
because it's obscene! " ( Colonel Kurtz )
" The horror. The horror. " ( Colonel Kurtz )

 " Charlie don't surf ! "
and we think he should..
;-)
niente da dire, il mio film preferito e Brando è semplicemente fantastico.
w

 fantastico.
Soprattutto per come fa sprofondare il film nel filosofico,
ribaltando la visione imperialistica del mondo.
bye
introspection

 " The horror. The horror. " ( Colonel Kurtz )
forse la più grande battuta di tutti i tempi.
mik (brividi dappertutto)

mi associo, lode a Joseph Conrad...
da uno dei libri + affascinanti di sempre (Heart of Darkness)
viene alla luce un pilastro della storia del cinema (Apocalypse Now)
e - ciliegina sulla torta - l'ispirato David Thomas ci canta una delle più
grandi canzoni di ogni tempo (Heart of Darnkess - Pere Ubu)
[ovazione]

 ribaltando la visione imperialistica del mondo.
i film in effetti sono 2:
il primo lo dirige Coppola, poi appare Brando e diventa un altro film.
Kurz č il film, Kurz č il mondo, č l'uomo, č il centro ed allo stesso tempo
anche il contorno.
w

 tempo anche il contorno.
Esattamente.
bye
introspection

 ribaltando la visione imperialistica del mondo.
A proposito di film di guerra filosofici pensavo che AN fosse il migliore.
Poi vidi "la sottile linea rossa".
Cmq grande Brando, grande Conrad, grande Coppola (e grandi pure i doorsi,
visto che se ne parlava).
--
Zapru.
"La nostra rovina
 E' di sollievo alla terra?
 Aiuta l'erba a crescere
 E il sole a splendere?"
(da "La sottile linea rossa")